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Hey Pachuco.
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Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, it's Sunday, March 29, 2026. This is your award winning Cubonation Media assassination episode 1855, this is no Agenda. Renaming the globe and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry and from the northern San Francisco Bay refinery row where we had no Kinks day, I'm John C. Dvorak.
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It's Crackpot and bo. You guys always have Kinks day in San Francisco.
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No kinks.
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No kinks. No kinks. This was, this was. It's so interesting. I was just trying to read through like people who were writing about it. Of course we have clips, but yeah, the big thing that, that the M5M was trying to emphasize was this line. These events supported by 500 groups with combined revenues of $3 billion. This is, you know, what is the, what is the point of that? They're trying to message something like this is. This is scary. The powerful. You know, did 2 billion go to Bruce Springsteen?
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I have no clue.
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It's good to have you here, John.
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Oh, thank you.
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How you feeling?
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Terrible. I feel terrible. It's a miracle I could do this show.
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Well, I'm actually quite surprised. Are you sleeping at all or is that not.
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Well, the sleeping is a problem because you kind of just doze off when you feel like it.
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But I will say this, like during the donation segment.
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Yeah, it could happen.
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It could happen. Yeah.
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You will say this. I will say this. David Letterman had a quintuple.
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Yes.
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And he was on the stage five weeks later.
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Yeah, well he.
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That ain't happening here.
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Yeah, he's a superstar.
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Past five weeks already.
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No, no, he. That was five weeks after the operation you've only had. The operation was 10 days ago.
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No, it was on the 6th.
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Oh, wow. Well, hurry up, will you? Get your spark, man. Here's a little overview of this is from Euro News. Here's how the Europeans viewed our no Kings Day. Millions of took to the streets across the United States to participate in the more than 3,100 protests taking place against US President Donald Trump. The rallies denounced what they described as an authoritarian style of governance by the incumbent administration. Their immigration stance, climate change denial, isolationist foreign policy, and now the war in Iran. In New York, thousands gathered to protest against sweeping immigration raids carried out by ICE and called for their abolition. The rallies even featured a surprise cameo from New York native and Hollywood giant Robert De Niro. De Niro took Place in the capital, Washington, D.C. where hundreds gathered near the White House demanding Trump's ouster. It's the third time in less than a year these protests, part of a US Grassroots movement called no Kings, take place. The demonstration spread across the pond where thousands of Americans abroad and locals took part in rallies across Europe. They were protesting in. In no Kings. Oops. In Paris, protesters called for an end to Trump's quote, reckless, irresponsible, and endless wars. And in the Italian capital, thousands march, calling for respect of international law and demanding a world free from wars. Yeah, I think the. The branding is off. No Kings just hate Trump. That's all that it is. Hate Trump.
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Did you see that? The. The segment of the New York protest that was literally communists with the red flag and this.
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No.
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Yeah. It must have been a couple thousand people. Oh, they had the flags. They had the, you know, and they had a bunch of jingles that they would say about communism taking over. And, you know, it's all. All kind of a mixed bag of zeds and maybe some. Some millennials.
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Well, the. I think the. The zeds that are in New York, and I have one, you know, they, they all were promised a bunch of stuff, and they probably aren't paying attention that it's kind of not happening. It's like, well, we got to raise your taxes, you know, raise taxes on property, so you're probably, you know, probably not going to freeze the rents. So they haven't. They just haven't felt the pain yet. But, you know, the kids are happy. They like their red flags. Let them wave them for a little bit. I'm not so bothered by it. New York has always been New York. They'll figure it out. Were you shocked?
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No, not at all. I'm just surprised they came out so blatantly.
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Oh, no, this is the. But this has always been the case. We used to arrest people over it in Hollywood, and we gave up that gambit like, it wasn't so cool to be calling people communists and arresting them. And so now they're rampant. It doesn't work. I watched a fair bit of it, the Minneapolis stuff, which was. Oh, man, they had one crappy band after another. It's like everybody who has a guitar and has written a song was allowed to go up on stage. Like, ah. Was insufferable. And then, of course, the great New Jersey icon Bruce Springsteen takes the stage to confirm all the lies.
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Turning into a beautiful day.
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Well, this past winter, federal troops brought death and terror to the streets of Minneapolis. I just. This past Winter. Federal troops brought death to the streets of Minnesota. Well, they picked the wrong city. Yeah. Should have gone to Tom's River.
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The power and the solidarity of the
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people of Minneapolis and of Minnesota was
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an inspiration to the entire country.
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Your strength and your commitment told us that this is still America, just not this little piece here. Bruce and this reactionary nightmare and these invasions of American cities. Invasions of America. Bruce Springsteen, who has several hundred million dollars. What happened to the guy?
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I'd like to know myself.
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Do you think it's toxoplasmosis?
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It very well could be.
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Something is going on here.
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Will not stand.
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You gave us hope.
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You gave us courage.
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And for those who gave their lives. Renee Good, mother of three, brutally murdered. Murdered. Alex Pretty, VA nurse.
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Executed by ice.
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Executed. Shot in the back and left to
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die in the street without even the
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death, the decency of our lawless government investigating their deaths.
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Their bravery, their sacrifice, and their names will not be forgotten.
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You just can't. It's. It's like the Howard Stern sickness.
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Yeah.
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And it's. It's bizarre.
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It could be cats.
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It's got to be Cats. I mean, it's just. It makes no sense.
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He's off the rails.
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Well, he's on. He's not even on rails. It's just like, Bruce, come on, man.
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It's not gonna. I think he's done.
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Well, he's been. He's been done for a while. It's just so disappointing. I mean, I'm from Jersey. This is not the guy we used to know. New Jersey's turned blue, so that kind of makes sense. But the craziest was Jane Fonda, and she's. I mean, what is no Kings supposed to be about? I mean, was it even about ICE initially? I can't remember the first.
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No. Kings was about nothing except Trump.
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Right, Trump. And then it became. This was kind of the Minneapolis. So it's about federal troops invading our cities.
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Invading.
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Yeah, invading our cities. And then Jane Fonda, who I'd really like to just like her, because here's an elderly woman, she's 87, 88. All the work that she's done on herself looks just mind bogglingly good. But she makes it so hard for me to like her. And now she's waffling over this.
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I want to say that the First
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Amendment suffers greatly in times of war as the government works to crush internal dissent. What? Our parents, our forefathers, fought and died for these rights, for these freedoms. We must not sit by quietly and
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watch them taken away. If we wait to act, if we hesitate out of fear or the feeling that it. It doesn't affect us, it may be too late.
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So this is America.
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What's she talking about?
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Exactly. This is the land of the podcast, where everybody can say whatever they want about anything or nothing. And so I had to figure out, what is she talking about? It made no sense. So I find, luckily, although it was kind of hard to watch, she goes on Mrs. Now with Jen Psaki. And Jen Psaki is fawning over her and she explains cuz she has a group, she has a First Amendment group. Because your First Amendment rights are under attack and being removed here in America. And I should note for the audience, you were in Washington D.C. today speaking outside the Kennedy center for an event. This one I'm referring to in defense of free expression. So tell us about the event and the message you were really trying to get across to people watching. Yeah, because we don't understand. Well, the attacks on the arts, on
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literature, on film, on museums, the National Endowment of the.
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Oh my. What? What attack on museums? What attack on films? This is. This can only be.
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Tell that to Netflix.
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Exactly. This can only be that Trump put his name on the Kennedy Center. I can't imagine it's about anything else. But she does slip in.
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I'm sure that's what it is. She said, galled everybody so much, she slips in.
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The National Endowment for the Arts.
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Okay, all of these are under attack, right? They're being defunded.
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They're being censored. They're being censored.
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Nobody's censoring anything.
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Well, she kind of twists herself in a knot in this short appearance.
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Removed. Removed history, especially racial history, the history of slavery is all being erased. What?
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It's being erased. Have I missed something?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And we wanted it.
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We were, We've been, we've been deluged with the history of race. Deluged. I think we got it.
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It's all being erased. And we wanted. Because it's kind of like here and there, here and there, siloed.
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We worried that people and the press don't see clearly enough the breadth and depth of these attacks.
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And we have to understand what's happening. This is not normal. This does not happen in a democracy. And we have to call it what it is and we have to end it. We're the Committee for the First Amendment.
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It's the First Amendment for. She's the Committee for the First Amendment.
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Hold on. Jen Psaki. I didn't see this, but Jen Psaki I'm guessing goes right to the juggler and asks her for specifics.
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Yeah. No. Yeah. No.
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What do you mean, no?
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No, no, it's just. Listen, she's on the Committee for the First Amendment.
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Oh.
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And we have to end it.
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We're the Committee for the First Amendment. It's the First Amendment for a reason. It's the most important. It's the cornerstone of all democracies. It's freedom of speech. Freedom of speech. It's the first a.m. it's the cornerstone of all democracy, all democracies. First amendment for a reason. It's the most important. It's the cornerstone of all democracies. It's freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, and freedom to protest, including the right. Is that in there?
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Let me go take a look and see if it says freedom to protest. I'm not sure it's actually in there. That way. Freedom of assembly and freedom to protest. For someone who's on the committee, she could at least just cite it verbatim,
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including the right to criticize our president if we choose. That's. This is under attack.
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Yes, that's under attack. So, yeah, yeah.
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And, gee, nobody's ever criticized Trump.
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It's. It's the oddest thing. I don't. Maybe I'm wrong about her, but I never thought. I never thought that she felt the need to be relevant. You know, a lot of Hollywood people do that. I never really pegged her that way, but I guess I can't come up with any other reason for her to be like this. Once you invest some money and make some independent films and do some theater productions, I don't think anyone's going to stop you. But somehow it's. Maybe there's a defunding of certain things. Maybe that's what she's upset about. But that's not the First Amendment. First Amendment doesn't say, oh, you shall get free money for your theater productions. So I was a little confused. What do you have on no Kings? Do you have anything?
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Nothing. I got no clips. I wasn't going to really talk about it much.
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Well, what's this no Kings rap? Npr, then.
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Well, this is the NPR rap of no Kings. Ha ha.
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See, you're being censored. Your clips are being obfuscated. No Kings. Protests against President Trump and his polic, including the war in Iran, immigration, voting rights, and the rising cost of living, are taking place around the country today. Organizers say more than 3,000 rallies are being held and millions of people are expected to Attend.
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Sarah Ferguson from Minnesota Public Radio has more.
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From a massive rally in St. Paul. There's been a lot of cheering as people, especially non Minnesotans, have lifted up the people of Minnesota for the way that they've reacted to Operation Metro Surge and really encourage others around the country who are watching to take steps to
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follow up on the things that Minnesotans
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have done, respecting one another, trying to support their neighbors. And just a lot of cheers here
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as some of the speakers say that the country does not want a king
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and they want to make sure that the people are empowered. Is this all about the Id, about the SAVE Act? Do you think that's part of it? I didn't see much talk about it, but, I mean, it just. It makes no sense. It seems like protests.
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No, it was just, you know, it's just people with nothing better to do. I have no idea. It's silly. I'm gonna say it. It's silly.
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Yes, well.
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And you pointed it out right at the beginning, which is the silliest part. You know, all these international versions of this, including one in England. No. Kings Day, where they have a king. They have a king. Yeah.
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We've been trying to figure out the backlash against Cesar Chavez.
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We're back on that.
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Yeah, well, it's related, I think. I think it's related. Yeah, I think it is. In February, RFK Jr was on Rogan, and he explained what happened throughout American history, or there's always talk. Well, the Republican Party and the Democrat Party, they flipped. They flipped over.
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Yeah.
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Well, but this is. This is a kind of a flip that make. That sounds correct. Why don't you ask me about immigration? Because I know that that's something that's disturbed you. Well, what are your thoughts on immigration, on what's going on? You know, here's the background, my kind of assumptions during the last 10 years of his life. I work very closely with Cesar Chavez, and I worked with.
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He had two issues.
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He had pesticides, which were a huge issue with him. And that's what I worked with him on, on the dangers that, you know, his workers were experiencing from pesticides. And the other issue he had was immigration. He wanted to shut down the border because he saw the way that
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it
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was impairing this huge influx of illegal migration across the border was impairing his ability to get, to bargain, to leverage good wages and conditions for his workers. When I grew up, the Democratic Party was against immigration, and it was the Republican Party who wanted it because the big corporations wanted cheap labor. The Chamber of Commerce was firmly embedded in the Republican Party. And they were all about open borders. Today, the Chamber of Commerce is with the Democratic Party. And so it's one of these switches that is kind of inexplicable to me. But I think, again, it happened because President Trump said, I'm going to fix it with a wall. And that became, you know, it suddenly became open borders, suddenly became a calling card for the Democratic Party. So there was this flip, which really only had to do.
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Oh, yeah, A lot of things. I mean. Yeah, yeah. The. The two sides. And this is recent, this one, because you can get clips from Schumer. I have. I don't have any on today's show, but, you know, talking and moaning and groaning about immigration, and you can get clips from Hillary moaning and groaning about immigration. You can get all these clips, even up to Obama. And now they say just the opposite. Yeah, but you could call it a flip. But what specifically do you think is
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the reason for this is the reason three documentaries. American Pachuco, the Legend of Luis Valdez, American Agitators, which I think may be out already, and a song for Caesar, American Pachuco. Yeah, I have no idea what that means.
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I do.
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What does it mean?
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Well, it's kind of like a punk, a bad, bad guy. You'd call in the, in the. When I was a kid, I was raised in largely, you know, Hispanic areas. And. And these guys would call you, hey, Pachuco. Hey, Pachuco. And vato. Vato was the other one that you call you pachuco? No, I was a white guy. Nobody even talked to me much.
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You were just, you were just hanging around me and Julio down by the schoolyard.
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No, I had a lot of friends that, you know, I'm. When I was in high school. But you go before they be. Before they, before they opened up our white, you know, high school. I went to a. Pretty much a Latino high school.
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Wait a minute.
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And it was.
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You were a minority? You were a minority. Did you get beat up that they take your lunch?
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Not at all. In fact, it was just the opposite.
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Oh, you were gringo, where they call you hey, gringo.
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No, no, they just said, hey, man, that guy's really white. That's what they'd say. You know, everybody hung out with their own little crowd. But my. I just. As an aside, I. To this day, and I've talked about this with everybody I know, I'm still impressed with the natural marketing, marketing capabilities of some of these. These. These kids. These, which at the time we call them Chicanos Yeah. And these kids that were. Because when they were running for, I think it was sophomore class president, you know, we already knew who's going to win and who might not win. But this one kid came up with this with giant posters. He'd make these long banners, and he won with the phrase, Hernandez is gooder. And it was so catchy. You looked at it, you go, hernandez is gooder. And you say, wow, that's. I don't know what kind of genius came up with that one, but it was a gem. And he just kicked ass in the voting.
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So I'm looking at this. This is from Hawaii Public Radio. They have a report this American Pachuco premiered at Sundance in January, is slated for release PBS release in fall. Interesting. And here's the line. Recent screenings have become safe spaces for audiences to process the new allegations, as the film contains significant footage of Chavez.
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Oh, that's funny. There's an Oops. Maybe it was the whole idea was to ruin that film.
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Could be. But that RFK Jr. Is talking about on Rogan in February. The timing is. Is, you know, the timing is interesting, and maybe there's something afoot. And they're like, oh, crap, they're going to use Hugo Chavez. They're going to use him. We got to do something quick. We got to. We got to cancel this guy. Maybe it's exactly what you talk. Maybe it's the Gooder guys. Maybe they're going after the Chicanos. Like, we can't have the Chicanos voting for Trump.
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Oh, that's got to be some angle there.
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Yeah, I'm thinking it has something to do with it.
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Yeah, could be.
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Well, we keep looking. We keep looking. All right. What do you. Where do you want to go? What you got?
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Well, I got a couple of interesting little side. If you want to hear something off the wall you haven't even touched upon.
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Okay, we have.
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I didn't hear about it. I have to say Canada's got, you know, BC's going broke.
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Oh, are they now? Well, BC's credit rating has been downgraded again. The official opposition says it signals to investors that the province is going broke. Huh.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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PC's going broken, and in fact, the whole country might be going broke. Let's play this clip. Canada, bank fees, new survey.
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Now CTV puts out a new survey. Nearly half of Canadians living paycheck to paycheck. You know, another slow clap for all these policies here. Half of Canadians in this rich, rich nation. And then you, you're going to have Francois Philip Champagne is bragging that they're cutting the NSF fees from 50 bucks to 10 bucks because one in three Canadians now writing bad checks without realizing what he's saying. He, he thinks you're that stupid. One in three Canadians writing bad checks. Half of Canadians living paycheck to paycheck in a nation as rich as this. You squandered riches, you've impoverished a nation and you're bragging on there like they. He must have done that. Took them all day too, because we saw the hard cuts in there too. They couldn't even stitch together like a moment. It was just full of like hard cuts. As Francois Philip Champagne was telling you that you're going to get a grocery credit and you're going to get the $40 off NSF fees in a nation where the Canadian banking oligopoly books record profits year after year and they won't let competition. And they should try a. No Kings Day.
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They got problems up there that we're not, we're not carefully looking at.
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Well, our, our producers and we have a lot of them in Canada. All of. Pretty much all of them who want to come live here. I remember during COVID like, hey man, can I stay in your. In your attic? Got any space?
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And then also, which I think is coming to a boil up in Canada, but not so much here. I want to play these clips. This is land. Ack1.china deals.un a new measure was announced
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this week to try and help stimulate the housing market. And it marks the third one that
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came out just this month.
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We ultimately may hear of even more
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of these to come as the pre
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sale market continues to struggle immensely. Plus, we saw another major project go insolvent. I also have updates on where markets are pricing in potential bank of Canada rate hikes. Plus, there is an incredible theory that has emerged this week as to why the government is making these land agreements with indigenous groups. Okay, all right. Something's going on.
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Yeah, there's a bunch of weird stuff going on with these indigenous groups. I like the way they call them the Indians.
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Yeah.
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Play Land Act. China deals.
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Oh, that's the one.
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No, wait, wait, wait.
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That's when I just played.
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No, you played.
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Oh, no, I see. I got. I see it. Yeah.
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The UN Let me get these correct.
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They look the same.
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The one that looks the same. That doesn't have one. Yeah. Land.
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Okay, here we go. The strategy focuses on joint ventures and equity positions. In these models, the first nations retain its rights. First Nations. That's what they are. First nations you got a First Nation in these models, the first nations retain its rights and title while the Chinese partner provides the capital and expertise to develop the resource under a profit sharing or lease agreement. So while China already remains a bit of a dominant force within the global mineral supply chain, recent and somewhat new Canadian federal policies. On March 26, a report came out that kind of supports this. This theory. The Bureau. The provincial government's implementation of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples act, or dripa, combined with a series of landmark court decisions confirming aboriginal title over specific territories, has rapidly altered the legal landscape governing resource extraction in Western Canada. More land is now subject to Indigenous control. More projects require Indigenous consent. These are in principle corrections to historical wrongs, but also mean that the pathways to Canada's most strategically valuable resources, lithium, cobalt, rare earth elements, timber and LNG now runs in many cases directly through first nations governments. Okay, so they are selling, by the
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way, with Chinese financing.
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Well, yeah. What the yellow man once. What the white man once took, now they're giving to the yellow man. And it's the minerals and it's the. Oh, man. So are they. Are they liquoring them up first before they put these.
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This is going on in Washington state also. They're giving property back to the. The local Indian tribes who already sold the land to this to the state or the local governments. And then they're pulling the plug on taxes. They don't have to pay taxes. They get those. They get the. There's no regulations or don't. Don't count. There's a. It's very fishy. The Chinese seem to be behind it. And this U. N. Resolution which requires people to. To. They're the ones behind the land acknowledgments. And I have a whole bunch of them here. In fact, the land acknowledgments seems to be a way of softening us up. Play this clip from this woman who's. Who tried to put pass a bill and she's a conservative in B.C. and this is the B.C. mess. Land acknowledgement story from the CBC One B.C.
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leader Dallas Brody says that land acknowledgments, which are often what you hear when you know, a public official starts an event, they'll say we're standing on the traditional territories of the Songhees and Esquimalt First Nation. She says that that is teaching our children that they live on stolen land, that they should be ashamed of their history and for that reason that those
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land acknowledgements should be banned among public employees.
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Here's A bit of what Delta Brody had to say. Land acknowledgments are the anthem of a suicidal nation. They tell our children that we stand on stolen land.
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So now this private members bill was
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voted down on first reading. That is quite rare because even MLAs when they disagree with a private members bill, they'll still vote it through first reading to have a debate on it. Not so with the with bills put forward so far by 1 BC. I will note that the entire BC Conservative caucus voted against the bill except for two, Harmon Bengou and Heather Moss.
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So this was an unwhipped vote but
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showing a little bit of, you know, fissures within the BC Conservatives on how
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to approach this bill.
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And Katie, what do first nations leaders
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say about this proposed bill?
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Well, I spoke with Robert Phillips. He sits on the First Nations Political Summit and a political executive of the First Nations Summit and he says that land acknowledgments are just acknowledging our history and are an important part of reconciliation. We also spoke to B.C. conservative House Leader Alia Warbas who is from the Stolo First Nation and you
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know, she's quite disappointed with the spirit
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of this bill and here's a bit of what she had to say. I've lived with racism all of my life.
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Party Hong Kong, no more to stand with China. Yeah, it shouldn't be playing anymore, is it?
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No, it's not playing. The so it sounds to me, just listening to sounds like they gave this land to the first nations. You know, tax free land. It's all, it's all gooder. And now they're like, well, you know, we're going to acknowledge this but we're going to have China buy it for the minerals and, and probably people are on the inside making a killing off of it.
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Yep.
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Do you have any clips that confirm this?
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Not that part, but I'm going to get some because this is a big deal and it's going to kill B.C. and probably Washington State because they're all suckered into it and it all stems from this 2016 UN resolution. And I think there's one previous in 27, 2007 that, that, that encourages people to do these land acknowledgments which is only applicable to the United States and Canada. Nobody else does it. No, the South Americans don't do it and they stepped all over Amazonians and you know, it's, it's ludicrous. And which brings me to three clips I have of classic land acknowledgments that I thought were funny. Enough to play. Okay, so let's start with Poulsbo, Washington, which is a little town that is a little Norwegian copy of a little Norwegian town in Washington state that is a tourist attraction. Norwegian all the way. And here's. They have a city council meeting. They do this.
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Paulsbowl is located on the ancestral lands of the indigenous Suquamish people for whom this place was known as Tucker Tuck Lot, or the Land of the Vine Maples. And here's a quote by Chief Seattle. Every part of the soil is sacred. And the estimation of my people, every hillside, every. Every valley, every plain and grove has been hollowed by some sad or happy event in days long. Vanish. Thank you. Thank you, Councilwoman Crow. Thank you. Thank you. You've acknowledged the land. Very good.
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Unbelievable. And. And we don't know it. Most of us don't. That the Los Angeles City Council pulls this stunt.
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The city of Los Angeles recognizes that we occupy land originally and still inhabited and cared for by the Kish, Tongva, Tatavian and Chumash peoples. We honor and pay respect to their elders and descendants, past, present and emerging, as they continue their stewardship of these lands and waters. We acknowledge that settler Conlan colonization resulted in land seizure, disease, subjugation, slavery, relocation, broken promises, genocide, multi generational trauma, disruption of cultural practices, trade and tribal relations. This acknowledgment demonstrates our responsibility and commitment to truth, healing and reconciliation and to elevating the stories, culture and community of the original inhabitants of the city of Los Angeles. We are grateful to have the opportunity to live and work on these ancestral lands. Wow. This is. This is like Obama time. We've gone back to this acknowledgment.
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Yeah. And here's the dnc, the latest guy that runs the dnc. This or when they introduce, when they open a meeting at the dnc, these Democrats. By the way, this is what it sounds like.
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Good morning, DNC members, friends and relatives. Let's talk about the land for a second. Okay.
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Acknowledges and honors the Dakota Oyate, the Dakota people who are the original stewards
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of the lands and waters of Minneapolis. Dakota cared for the lands, lakes and the Wakatanka, the Great river, the Mississippi river for thousands of years before colonization. This land was not claimed or traded. It's a part of a history of
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broken treaties and promises.
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And in many ways, we still live in a system built to suppress indigenous
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people's cultural and spiritual history. As Democrats, I ask of every one
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of you to not allow land acknowledgments
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like these to simply Be the checking of a box.
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Be curious, ask questions. Ensure our native neighbors are heard. And work in partnership with your indigenous communities.
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Honor the legacy of this land and
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its people by engaging today with each
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other with honesty, humility, respect and compassion. Yeah.
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So much talk, talk, talk. Here in Fredericksburg, we are actually bringing Comanche nation back. I hadn't told you about this.
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No.
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Yeah. Well, the story goes that Fredericksburg had a treaty with Comanche nation. The Comanche Treaty of 1847, which we never broke. I'm not quite sure what the treaty was, but I've had no flaming arrows, so I guess it's still in case, in effect, so. But we're bringing him back to the Hill country for the. Actually, it was the Meusebach Comanche Treaty of 1847. The Mosebach was one of the original founders of Fredericksburg. Hey, wouldn't you know, we're opening up this huge retail hotel space. Somebody. It's actually not far, far from our house. It's on the west side of town, which is going to do a lot to the. The west side of town. So it's all commercial. And we're bringing them back in for commercial stuff. We're going to do the frontier fest at Fort Scott. Comanche.
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They're bringing the Comanches back for. To add to the tourist attraction list.
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Yes, exactly. But we're going to pay them. And wampum. They're gonna get paid. It's gonna be good. Yeah, I think so. I think so. Yeah. We're friendly to the. To the Indian, to our Comanche nation.
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Yeah. Let's see how that goes.
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So we'll have that. We had the Hill Country Indian artifacts show. That was just last week. The Comanche nation meeting took place earlier this week. And then Frontier fest, where, I don't know. I think we'll build totem poles and stuff. Yeah, well, it's better than this.
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Totem poles are not Comanche.
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What are totem poles?
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All those poles are in the Haida H A I D A type Indians up in the Pacific Northwest in Canada.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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Oh, I thought all Indians had totem poles.
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No, there's just this group. I don't think there's any other outside the state of Washington and B.C.
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all right, shifting gears from the first nations. The president had another fabulous cabinet meeting. I don't know if you had a chance to see any of it.
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Yeah, I watched it.
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Some of it was, I thought, entertaining. I thought our future president Rubio. Cuz man, he's pushing. He's Pushing for it. He did his little mic drop Iran speech. The most important job any president has is to keep the American people safe. And every president says it, but we have a president that means it and does something about it. As the President outlined very clearly to the world on the night this operation began, Iran has been at war with the United States for 47 years. For 47 years, Iran has been killing Americans and attacking Americans across this planet. And other presidents had an opportunity to do something about it. And they all warned about how Iran was dangerous, but they refused to act. And this President is not someone that's going to refuse to act. He's not going to leave a danger like this in place. He's going to address it, and that is what he is doing. From the very first night of this operation, the President made it very clear people like this. And now what I'm talking about is not the people of Iran. The people that run this country are radical Shia clerics. These are religious fanatics. Look what they are doing now at their weakest point. This is the weakest Iran has ever been. And look at what they're doing. They're attacking embassies. They're embassies. They're attacking hotels. Imagine what these people would do if they had a nuclear weapon. That is an unacceptable risk for the world. By the way, the President is not just doing a favor to the United States and to our people. This is for the world. He defined very clearly on the first night of this operation what the goal was. We were going to destroy Iran's navy. And that is happening. We were going to. If it hasn't already happened, I'll let Pete speak to the specifics of it. We were going to destroy their missile launching capabilities. We're well on our way to achieving that goal. We were going to, to destroy the factory so they couldn't make more missiles and more drones. And that is moving forward. Every single objective the President clearly laid out on the first night of this operation is being effectuated. Again, Peter will speak to the specifics of it. This has been an incredibly successful operation. Every day it may not get covered because, you know, we're unlike them. We're not. We're not bombing embassies and hotels. We're hitting military targets. What I like about Rubio in these cabinet meetings is he's, he speaks to the press. Everyone else is like, oh, Mr. President. Oh. Under your leadership. Oh, Mr. President. And Rubio just goes for it. He's like, no, no. Let me just tell you press people what I Think so. Our, our gay general Patton Scott Besant. I thought he was the most interesting of the meeting. Did you see any of what he said?
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I can't think of anything.
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Well, here's his intro where he. I think he's saying that my job is important because economic security and financial security is national security. Your economic leadership has made our military mission possible, Mr. President. National security, as you always say, is economic security. Your leadership has shown the American people that there is no prosperity without security. That our mighty military on one side but the US economic strength is fighting off this evil regime. The Iranians believe they are fighting a two front war. It is the military war that our great warriors are prosecuting. But on the other side they are trying to take control of the global economy through a choke point that we believe does not exist and that we will overcome. Your historic operation at Epic fury seized a generational opportunity to demolish a regime that has coordinated over four decades of global terror and claimed thousands of American lives. Many people, especially the Democrats, underestimate the will of the American people for short term volatility for 50 years of safety that we are going to have on the other side of this. And I believe energy prices will be lower, inflation will be lower. Before we had the appearance of security, which is not real security. Now the American people and the world will have absolute security. You know, I've been talking to the oil baron a lot lately, you know, for obvious reasons because he's right in the middle of this. So he bought $77 puts and $115 calls on his oil. I thought, I'm not quite sure what that is.
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Arbitrage. Yeah.
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Oh, it's complete arbitrage. But that's his risk spread is hey, we can't lose if it goes below 77 and we're not going to win above 115. But he too, he says, I am surprised and I thought a Texas oil man would know is I'm surprised how impacted the world is by the, by the Iranian regime, by the, by the strait. I had no idea. I'm getting here. I'm getting notes from one of our producers actually. That's, yeah, the guy.
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Now somebody in the cabinet or in the D.O. or the Department of War or somebody in the CIA or somebody in. They had to know that this was going to happen.
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Oh, they must have known.
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And I think it's, I mean what if they didn't?
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Well, the next clip tells me, I think they did. But it makes a lot more sense now that Obama sent hundreds of Millions of dollars on pallets over to Iran because everyone was afraid of this. Like, ah, I don't want this on my watch. I don't want this nonsense happening. Maybe, but Besant, what he says in this, this thing was planned for a long time. This could be him saying it after the fact, but I'm going to take it at face value. They were planning this for over a year. Through your maximum pressure campaign, treasury has worked to uncover all financial lifelines through the regime and cut them off. You gave that order last March. This was not, this was not something that happened overnight. This is something that has been contemplated for almost a year. Therefore, the Iranian financial system collapsed in December. We have systematically weakened Iran's ability to fund operations and procure weapons. And that required months of preparations. Threats to American national security have no place in the global economic system. The oil market is well supplied. We have taken actions to ensure oil supplies stranded at sea are made available to the global market. Your bold actions, like the Development Finance Corporation's Maritime Reinsurance program in conjunction with Central Command, will soon provide shippers through the Gulf region with a level of security we had never seen before. Mr. President, we are starting, starting to see more and more movement in and out of the Gulf today. And this is more than yesterday. And this is the beginning. I am confident that shipping traffic will continue to increase on a daily basis even before we secure the straits. So it sounds like they, they were on this, cutting off their financial lines, making sure that they were depleted some of their capabilities and then struck once Netanyahu told him to, of course. So it's, you know, it sound. Sounds like they had a plan here.
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Well, I'm sure they did. I'm not sure that they expected it to go this way. I guess Rubio has some comment that's going to last another four weeks.
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Yeah, I think I have that here. Hold on.
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John Kennedy also said that, why don't we just get out, we won. Which is my approach.
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Where's the, where's my Rubio? I had another. Here we go. This was on the tarmac. Not going to be a prolonged conflict. The objectives I've outlined to you, again, I repeat them, because I see these reports like the users are not clear on what objectives are. We've been as clear as you can possibly be from the very first night of what the objectives of this mission are. We're going to destroy their factories to make missiles and rockets and drones. We're going to destroy their navy, we're going to destroy their air force, and we are going to significantly destroy their missile launchers so they can never hide behind these things to get a nuclear weapon. We can achieve. We are achieving all those objectives. We are ahead of schedule on most of them, and we can achieve them without any ground troops, without any. Now, in terms of why there's deployments, number one, the president has to be prepared for multiple contingencies, which I'm not going to discuss in the media.
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And again, I refer you to the
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Department of War, who will probably tell you the exact same thing. But we can achieve all of our
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objectives with our ground troops, but we
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are always going to be prepared to get. Give the President maximum optionality and maximum opportunity to adjust to contingencies should they emerge. Optionality needs some. So just back to the Cabinet meeting for a moment. So after Besson does his whole thing and then he says how great everything here is at home, which I think most people who are listening would dispute without a doubt. Europe, uk, Asia, I mean, they're talking about going back to work from home. It's like we got no gas. It's going to be the worst since the 70s. Yeah, we're paying more, but I don't think we have those types of problems. So, no, I'm sure that we can ride that out a lot longer. So he goes through this whole thing, and then here's what the President says.
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I just want to ask you a question.
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Is this guy Central Kingston? I'm looking at him. I mean, Treasury. He might not be so good for war.
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I don't know.
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I'm looking pretty good, too. I'm looking at this guy. He's central casting.
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Even the glasses are perfect.
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Where do you get those glasses?
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I think I want to get glasses. That's beautiful. Great job. That's really good. No, he's done a great job. And you all have. Proud of you all.
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Yeah, proud of you. Proud of you. All right. Well, at least it sounds like he has a plan. It's not written down anywhere on paper that we can read, but.
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Well, I'm sure it's written down somewhere.
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Why. Why do you think we need to get out so quickly? I mean, besides the fact that war sucks.
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Well, if we've done every. Here's my problem. The stuff that Trump says we've done, which is take out their Navy, the Army, the guys, this guy, that guy. There's no Air Force. There's no command and control. There's nothing has left. A vacuum of these IRG renegades. I think they're all acting independently. And you're and they're all over the place. And each one of them might be wanting to vie for power at some point. And you've got to let this thing settle out, otherwise you're just going to. You're never going to get the straits open again. Because one nut ball or another or any number of them someplace with some of those Shahid drones, for example, can. Can keep the things shut down forever. The problem with the Shahid drone, which has always fascinated me and I don't understand how this happened. Those things cost $75,000 to make. They have wooden props and they go slow and then they get the big bomb in them and they blow stuff up. And they're not that great.
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They're based. They're basically modern V1s.
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Yeah. Kind of with. With. With a less. With a less advanced propulsion system.
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Yeah.
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And so the 75. It cost us we. To shoot them down, unless you can get a Jetta jet up in the air, which is not.
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It cost us a million bucks to shoot one down.
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Well, $330,000 for a missile, so it costs 300,000 to 75,000. I mean, you go broke. They have enough of these things. So get out. Let things settle down. Let the straits get reopened so people don't freak out and see what happens.
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Yeah, I. But that doesn't seem to be the idea. The idea seems.
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No, no, it's definitely not the idea.
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No, the idea seems take Carg island and be in control of everything. And they're still. They still want to get rid of some of these IRCG, IRGC guys. But here's General Frank MacKenzie retired on with Margaret from this morning. One of the things that Iran had been waiting to do was activate its militias or the militias it supports in
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Yemen, the Houthis, over the weekend, they
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jumped into the fight. Yeah, we were missing those guys. They hadn't shown up and all of
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a sudden, right on cue and fired on Israel.
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Do you think that this is a game changer, given that they could not just disrupt the Strait of Hormuz, but another passageway through the Red Sea? Margaret, I don't think it'll be a game changer. Their ability to attack Israel is quite limited. Yes. They will have the ability to further stop slow traffic through the Bab El Mandeb going up into the Suez Canal. We have the ability to go down there and prevent that. It will require additional resources, but we have those resources and we can certainly do it if that becomes necessary. Well, the President has made clear that he needs to reopen The Strait of Hormuz. His language has been contradictory on some of these points as to who's going to do it and when. What's the military reality of making it passable? We're on our way to doing that now, Margaret. This is part of a plan that's been in existence for many years. What we're doing right now is we're reducing Iranian ability to target ships in the strait through their short range missiles, their drones and other activities. We do that by maintaining air superiority over southern Iran on a 247 basis, looking for where these missiles are and striking them relentlessly. Once we reduce those to a very low level, then you'll be able to go in, if necessary, sweep for mines. I'm not certain they put mines in the water yet. I predict eventually they will. It's their nature. But we have the ability to do this. We're on. We're on plan. I'll be honest with you, Margaret. I've simulated this many years in many positions at Central Command. We're a little further along than we would have expected to be at this point in all the simulations that I've seen. All right, so they were ready for this. It's been a plan for years.
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Everybody says we're further along.
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Yeah. Well, let's go to the next clip. So the President had posted he's postponed the deadline to open the Strait of Hormuz as a result of the Iranian government asking for it. He says he's shifted that to eight, April 6 at 8pm we also hear from the Secretary of State that he's talking to the allies about a post conflict necessity of having other countries help to essentially police the strait. And he said that you will need tankers to have military escorts. So this doesn't sound like this is a short term project. This sounds like even if combat ends, we're going to be talking about a military presence in the region for some time. Am I wrong, Margaret? You could be right. Let's see what happens. I think a negotiated. There are two ways the Strait of Hormuz can be opened. It can be opened if the Iranians
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negotiate with us to open it.
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And of course, that's the desired solution. The other solution would be if they don't and they decide to fight, we can open the strait under that condition too. The second condition is obviously a lot more intensive in terms of ships and equipment that we have to bring into the region. And yes, help from our allies would certainly be, would be very useful. In that case, we have the ability to open The Strait of Hormuz under any condition that the Iranians choose to exist under. Yeah, so there. So we're maybe keeping it artificially closed. Final clip is boots on the ground. Does it appear to you that one of the contingencies that the White House is planning for, given that they're continuing, continuing to move troops into the region and you have these Marines who are moving into the area as well, are they preparing for a ground troop presence and what does that look like? Margaret, for many years we've considered options along the southern coast of Iran, seizing islands, seizing small bases, typically raids. And a Red is an operation with a planned withdrawal. You're not going to stay. But some of those islands you could seize and hold. That would have a couple effects. First of all, it would be profoundly humiliating for Iran and would give us great weight in negotiations. The second, the example of Kharg island, which everyone talks about, if you seize Kharg island, you really can shut down the Iranian oil economy completely. And the beauty of seizing it is you're not destroying it, you're retaining it for further use by the global economy, economy, and possibly for return to Iran under certain conditions. So all of these things, this is not back of the, these are not back of the envelope calculations. These are things we've been working on for many years and I think we're right to threaten the entire electoral to hold all these options out there. And I think the President's message is spot on when he talks about all these alternatives. So season hold is the.
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That that brings me to this, the screwy clip I picked up off of a recording done at like four in the morning on one of the networks.
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Was that one of your oh my God, I can't sleep mornings?
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No, it was just running. This is a Navy intel guy and we know Navy intelligence is the progenitor of all these people.
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Yeah, they typically do podcasts and he's
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like, yeah, this guy would be wild.
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They're on X and do podcasts.
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He is X, of course, ex Navy Intel. And the funny thing is he's got all his up to date information for some unknown reason, I don't know. And I thought this was because this kind of ties in with what the other guy just said.
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So let's bring in former Naval Intelligence officer Captain Todd Sawhill. Captain, thank you for joining us. Help square for us the fact that we just heard Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying that this is about two to four weeks left, but yet reports of 10,000 more troops being sent to the region after we already know the 82nd Airborne on their way. And then of course that Marine 31st MEW is on its way. So I think the movement of the ground forces and the enablers, and as
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you mentioned, particularly the Boxer and the Triple E amphibious ready groups and the Marine expedition unions, plus the elements of the 82nd really center around making sure
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the President has maximum options. Optionality ground operations in any part of Iran are necessary. And before I just list off all the key islands, I don't necessarily want to focus on that because I don't want to telegraph what we may or may not do because really that's, that's
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at the decision making level for the President, the Secretary of Defense. But beyond holding territory risk, those forces could also be used for internal security
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in and around the bases in the
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region as well as potentially raids for
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the nuclear material should President determine that's
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the only way to retrieve it.
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Because we're currently at such loggerheads on the conditions for cessation between the US and Iran. So ultimately it's all about options as
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we continue to really set the conditions
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with rolling back the missile, drone and
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air to ground forces that have been significantly degraded over the last three weeks.
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Right. So that fits in with Rubio's optionality. Everything's an optionality. So we have, we have options. Here's the boots on the ground update from our producer in the region, which I thought was interesting. Wild morning, still alive. Been up since 2am followed by the most aggressive five hours in Bahrain. 20 ballistic missiles and 37 drones. The trend seems that they are aggressively swarming the skies to overcome the good interception rates. The problem here is that the country is just too small for that kind of action. The overall size of the whole island is the size of San Diego or Austin. And the economy is too small for such a beating. Each interception is a Patriot missile which he says cost a couple million. We are still trying our best to build a tourism economy and that is really hurting our strained economy. So our good friend Netanyahu decided to aggressively bomb three steel plants across Iran. For some reason unlike all other targets, Israeli press explicitly stated steel plants were hit, although they don't usually reveal this type of target in most cases. In return, our good neighbors Iran decided to attack five steel and aluminum plants in the gcc stating to punish the enemy for attacking civilian infrastructure. The guy was crazy enough to bomb near Buchar nuclear facility an active nuclear power plant, which triggered an alarmed response from the whole region on potential nuclear meltdown. And Putin himself as the Plant is operated by Russia's state Atomic Energy corporation, Rosatom. The US Seems to be building a massive set of ground troops as a deterrent to push the negotiation under extreme pressure. And the Israelis are trying every possible way to expand and complicate the conflict. A ground invasion is nearly impossible. Taking away islands within the effective shooting range of Iran may result in high casualties among among the best Marine units that US has to offer. Let's hope Trump can retain him further because he causes a bigger mess. He's talking about Netanyahu and maybe managed to get JD to the front to build his peacemaker legacy and secure the GOP vote for the next 10 years. So that's how they're thinking in the region, which sounds. Sounds about right.
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Sounds about right.
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So we had cpac, which this is the first time President Trump has not attended CPAC due to the war and other things. He's busy, but they had some interesting speakers. Reverend Franklin Graham came out pretty unimpressive speech. I didn't pull any clips from it. And he mainly because he started off with, you know, Iran. We had a weak president and Jimmy Carter, and they had our people in the embassy for 400 days. And the minute President Reagan came in, they let him all out because they were afraid of him. I'm like, no, I don't think so. Rev.
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No, no, no, I don't think so.
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Reverend that was a different deal at the time. But also invited was the crown Prince Reza Pahlavi, which I don't know. Well, it seemed like CPAC was almost the conservative Persian Action Congress, or whatever they call it Convention because the Persians came out like crazy for this guy. The only thing that the remnants of this regime can be relied on to do is to buy time, to cheat and to steal. They will never be honest or true partners for peace. President Trump was right when he said, we don't want to come back every two years. But if a faction of the regime is left in power, that is exactly what will happen. It will buy time, it will pretend to negotiate, and then it will return to its old jihadist ways of threatening America, its security and its interests. They might promise a short period of artificial conflict, but it would inevitably be followed by the same terrorism, the same nuclear blackmail, and the same cries of death to America. Because the truth is simple. The Islamic Republic cannot reform itself. You cannot reform. A snake venom is in its DNA. This extends to the corrupt and brutal thugs of the irgc, because the IRGC is not Iran's national army. Indeed, it does not even have the world Iran. In its name, it is the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. It serves its own poison ideology of terror and not Iran's national interests. So it can certainly never be a partner to serve America's interests. So I. I cut all of those applauses. I had to cut out.
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Oh, I'm sure. They went on forever.
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15 seconds, and then they started chanting,
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thank you so much.
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Palave. Thank you, you so much. I have four minutes left.
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I'm halfway through my speech. Okay.
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Huh.
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They. You know, when I was a student at Berkeley, it's the same Iranian students who promoted the getting rid of the Shah, the Shamas Go.
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Yeah.
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It was the American Persians that pretty much created this. This monstrosity they've stuck with.
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Yeah.
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And now this. You know, these kids. These kids, they just don't get it right. I don't know if they're gonna get it right ever.
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You're saying it wrong. These kids.
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I can't quite do it. These kids.
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So I'll just finish up with him. 30 seconds of President Trump rocks. The only path to lasting peace and stability runs through a clean break with this regime. For the first time in 47 years, President Trump's strategy has given us a real chance to achieve that outcome. For decades, every American president since Jimmy Carter chose to try to manage this looming threat rather than resolve it. Each of them has failed. They have only made the problem worse. The result has been more dead Iranians and more dead Americans. So the mullahs operated on the assumption that America didn't have the stomach to confront them decisively. That assumption began to collapse when President Trump ordered the strike on Qasem Soleimani. Yeah. So plan or no plan?
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Well, you know, Carter didn't have the stomach to. Stop it. Stop it. Reagan didn't have the stomach. Once after the barracks were blowed up, he took off. Nobody wanted to do anything about this.
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Well, and, yes, and then we had Bush. He was too busy protecting his oil fields in Iraq or daddy's oil fields in Kuwait. And Obama went, let me just hang out with the Muslim Brotherhood and I'll pay you guys. Yeah, I'll pay you guys off and calm down here. And so Trump, this is his legacy movement. That seems clear and. Well, I hope he pulls it off. War is not. Not my favorite thing.
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Well, we'll see. Anyway, he goes, I think I have a clip about some of this. Where's my analysis clips?
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You're back to full strength. You're titling them anal, so you must be on the mend.
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What I Type. Oh, that means analysis.
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Yeah, I know. No, yes, I'm aware. I've been around.
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Well, there's one about the we might as well bring the Lebanese stuff in and then we look for the other one. Lebanese, Lebanese vicinity stuff. This is a overview of what the Israelis are doing while we're trying to take over Iran.
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Connected to this is fighting that's happening in Lebanon. That's where Israel has launched an invasion of the south of the country and Iran backed Hezbollah has been fir back. Can you just update us on what's happening there? Absolutely. There have been more than a million Lebanese displaced and that's like 20% of the population as Israel depopulates entire towns
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and Beirut's huge southern suburbs.
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And the impact of that invasion and the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah is becoming increasingly dangerous to document.
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Israel today killed three journalists in an airstrike on their vehicle.
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One of them was a correspondent for Hezbollah's television channel who has been reporting from the south for almost 30 years. Israel claimed without evidence, Claimed without evidence, Claimed without evidence he was a Hezbollah operative, in fact a member of one
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of their elite forces.
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But the actions that Israel described, identifying where Israeli forces were and contacts with Hezbollah are actually normal journalistic practices. Israel didn't comment on the other two journalists killed with him. We've talked so far about the latest developments in this now month long war, but are there other repercussions worth pointing to right now for other countries?
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Absolutely.
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This war is so different because it's really difficult to find any country untouched by this in the region. You know, one of the effects is that some of the busiest airports in the region have shut down, leaving people stranded. Israel has restricted outgoing flights. And this week the US Embassy in Israel announced it was arranging buses from Israel to the Amman airport in Jordan to fly people out of here. Kuwait announced that its airport radar had been damaged. Its airport has been closed for almost a month. I love how they, how she portrays. Oh, it's the beautiful southern, beautiful suburbs of southern Lebanon. Lebanon has been a mess since I was a kid.
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At one time it was the Paris of the Middle East.
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Yeah, in the 60s, late 60s.
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I don't know when it was probably late 60s.
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Yeah, well, I mean Iran was cool then too.
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Here's the clips. This is the Iran Houthis Update npr
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Iranian backed Houthi rebels in Yemen have entered the U. S. Israeli war in
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Iran firing a missile at Israel which
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Israel says was intercepted. It's the first time Israel faced fire from that country since the war began. And it opens a new front in the two month old conflict. Meanwhile, the Pentagon says around 3,500 sailors and marines have arrived in the Middle East. NPR chandelyse duster has more. U.S. central Command said Saturday in a social media post that about 3,500 sailors and Marines arrived in the Middle east aboard the USS Tripoli. The 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit based in Okinawa, Japan, arrived in the Middle east on Friday. The post said the unit also has transport and strike fighter aircraft as well as amphibious assault and tactical assets. U.S. central Command did not say what mission the unit will be carrying out. At least 2,000 additional soldiers have been ordered to deploy to the Middle east where the US already has 40,000 to 50,000 troops.
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People always leave out the fact you already have 50,000 troops there.
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Oh, yeah.
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Scattered around.
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Yeah.
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So. And here's the analysis.
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We're joined by NPR's Jane Araf, who's following events from Amman, Jordan. Jane, thanks for taking the time. Thank you. Can you start with telling us what happened in Saudi Arabia? Well, this was an attack on the Prince Sultan Air Base and that's a
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Saudi base, but it's also a regional
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US Military hub that focuses on aerial refueling and missile defense Systems. At least six missiles and more than two dozen drones were fired by Iran, according to U.S. officials who requested anonymity.
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And military experts are calling it a
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serious breach of US Air defenses.
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Several of those wounded service people were
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reported to be seriously wounded. The attacks also damaged refueling tankers. Iran released Chinese satellite images that appear
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to show burning aircraft and it said
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it had destroyed two of the airborne tankers. They refuel fighter jets in the air and damaged others. That's after Israel struck three Iranian steel plants and a nuclear facility.
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The international nuclear watchdog said there was
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no risk of radiation leak from that strike.
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Yeah, there's a lot of action.
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There's definitely a lot of action. The, the gcc, the Gulf. Is it the Gulf Commonwealth? What do they call that? Gcc?
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Not sure.
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Gcc. Well, they call them the GCC State. So they have also filed with United nations just like the US did under Article 51, saying, hey, we are reaffirming our full and inherent right to self defense and we're going to start striking back. So it looks like we've got them on our side, although I still get a lot of military commentary saying, no, everyone hates us. They want us out of our bases. I don't know. You're right. A lot of action. We don't actually know anything. Breaking news, nobody knows nothing.
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Right?
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So President Trump Had a Saudi investor summit, which is all money coming into America. And he. He had some interesting commentary.
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They are negotiating. They're begging to make a deal. They're begging to make a deal. Turned out I was right. They were negotiating, which they admitted two days later. And in order to make up for their misstatement, they said, we're going to send you eight ships of oil. And the following day I saw. This is two days ago, I saw in one of the networks, very strange. They were.
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Were eight ships of oil coming out of Iran.
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And then they actually said, we're going to add an extra two. And they added an extra two.
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So we had 10 chips.
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And then people realized we were actually negotiating. We're negotiating now and be great if we could do something, but they have to open it up. They have to open up the Strait of Trump. I mean, harmless. Excuse me.
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I'm so sorry.
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Sorry. Such a terrible mistake. The fake news will say he accidentally said, no, there's no accidents with me. Not too many. If there were, we'd have a major story.
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Well, we had that with the Gulf of Mexico.
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Remember the Gulf of Mexico.
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And then he goes into this whole Gulf of America thing, the Strait of Trump. Okay,
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but by the way, there's no evidence that there was any eight or to ten ships that went through with. None with these.
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I've seen, if anything, too.
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Yeah, well, this is. One guy has a video show on YouTube.
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The state of shipping today, I think is what.
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Yeah, that guy.
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Yeah, he's like.
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Yeah, he tracks every single ship.
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I don't see it.
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He says, he said, where is he talking about? There's no. There's zero ships.
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But he also said, well, there's a lot of GPS spoofing and, and that ship is over there, but I think it's over here. So, you know, nobody really knows anything.
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Well, there's, again, no evidence.
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No evidence.
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I think Trump's full of it.
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Well, that wouldn't be the first time. But you don't know.
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No, you don't. That's the problem.
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Bessant says that, you know, there's oil at sea that we do know.
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Yeah, tons.
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So. And he's allowing that to be offloaded. So that's probably helping somebody somewhere. And NATO is still very much in the crosshairs.
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This is NATO. And I've always said NATO's a paper tiger. And I always said we help NATO, but they'll never help us.
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And if the big one ever happened, and I don't think it will, but if the Big one ever happened, I
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guarantee you they wouldn't be there. And we learned from that. And remember what I said, because they made a big mistake. They were not there. The Chancellor of Germany, these are real friends of mine. Friedrich, people of Germany, he said, this is not our war. We have nothing to do.
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Well, Ukraine's not our war.
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But we help them.
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He keep. He keeps slamming NATO. I'm not sure what the plan is, but he keeps talking about it like, oh, they weren't here to help us. And then. And this was quite telling. And this is regarding our own economy here and the fabulous AI hype that we're in. It was just kind of telling the way he answered this question.
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We'll take some questions.
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Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. President. Thank you so much. And thank you for accepting to take five questions. We don't want to take too much of your time. So let's talk about, about business in one sentence. Where should the world invest in America right now?
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Well, look, the one that they're going crazy about is AI. Now, sometimes you'll say, let's go the opposite because I've seen it, you know, everyone goes, but AI is going crazy. AI.
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So my family, we made Don, the whole family.
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Eric is doing a good job. All of us. Ivanka, we liked real estate. When you can make money in real estate, it's a great business. But I see some of these guys come into my office. They're wearing a T shirt and they're 24 years old. Dad, he's got a net worth of $24 billion. I said, you got to be kidding. Off a little contraption. So. But the money seems to be.
B
I just got to stop. All for a little contraption?
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Yeah, it's contraptions to make money.
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Contraptions are doing it.
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Dad, he's got a net worth of $24 billion. I said, you got to be kidding off a little contraption. So. But the money seems to be right now, AI.
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And also, if you're in school, like you're going to the Wharton School or
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the Stern School or any of these great schools. I mean, the numbers that they're paying to go into that business is incredible. Where you see people getting a 10 million dollar bonus to sign, like baseball players or football players, we're giving you a 10 million. I mean, I hate to say, because it sounds ridiculous, but there have been some hundred million dollar bonuses paid to sign. So I think probably if you're going to say one thing, AI and just hope that it works right, you better Hope, hope.
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I hope it works. Well, it seems like we have this interesting race now between OpenAI and Anthropic. Who's going to come out first, who's going to go public first?
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Yeah, this is funny.
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And Anthropic is for all I can see they're killing it because those guys focus on one thing and one thing only. Code. Make sure the thing can code. And all the developers I know have now moved over to Claude. Everybody's using Claude to code. It's not a chat, but like, you know, it's not like, like OpenAI. They focused on kind of general chat entertainment, answering questions. They don't seem to have the, the coding part down as much but they certainly have the user base. And then we got a boots on the ground because I'm always wondering how things are going to, how they're paying for all of this. This is from. What's this? Natalie? I think I was at the playground the other day and started talking to one of the dads there. Uh huh. Hitting up the dads at the playground. He mentioned he worked in the finance department of Google for the Gemini Group. I mentioned I was curious about the profitability of AI because I heard a lot of companies are bleeding money. A big grin popped up on his face. He told me that Gemini was profitable because they've integrated the entire supply chain. Google doesn't have to rent out data centers, they already have them. Or buy chips from Nvidia. They develop their own, I think.
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Yeah.
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We wanted to discuss more but his little girl started to get upset so he had to move to a different part of the playground that you know, Gemini, they have an interesting for search, they've got a great advantage. They got, they've got all the, the YouTube stuff and they've got Google and, and now this. Well, you know, who, who are the winners going to be? And Rick, Rick Bedo, Our boy Rick Bedo over there, the, the music guy, he's come to the same conclusion I have about using local models at home. And this is what I think is going to happen with these AI companies. The data centers, they're going to be sitting there unused. Many of them will not be built
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when people start using AI locally, meaning on their computer.
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And the same thing that happened to the music business and recording is going
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to happen to these AI companies because
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people are going to realize, oh I can do this at my house, I
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don't need to be paying these companies.
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If a 64 year old guy like me can figure this out last night
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and show you today.
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How hard can this stuff be? People are using these things, Suno and Udo and everything from music creation. People are taking their business contracts and
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everything they're feeding into ChatGPT.
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People are taking their, any of their business things or financial information, they're feeding,
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feeding it into these things and they're training off your data that you own
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yourself, your own personal information, your own intellectual properties.
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And why is that?
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Because you and me are the product. So who are the winners and losers of this? Well, the companies that make hardware like
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Apple, Google, Nvidia, any company that makes
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computers, computer chips, things like that, those are the ones that are going to be the winners. Unfortunately, the ones that are going to be the losers, in my opinion, are the companies that make these AI programs for most people's needs, individuals and businesses, even good sized businesses, you can do these things on your own computers offline. What are you doing with your mic?
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I got my foot tangled up in the cord.
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Careful. You know, Apple may have a really interesting advantage here. They have that, the M4. What is it called? It's not.
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Yeah, I don't know what it's called, but let me. While you're mentioning that, I should mention something JC talked about. He says that new Apple laptop.
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Yeah.
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595 bucks. Oh yeah, that finally has a touch screen and he says it's a killer.
B
Yeah, that really got underplay or downplayed.
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It didn't get played at all. I didn't even know anything about it, but I know that they. It's colorful.
B
Well, I know that the Mac Minis are sold out for months.
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Everybody's got a Mac Mini.
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Yeah, but it's the. What is the. They have a special. So they use their RAM. Their regular RAM. Yeah, you can load it up with RAM. You can load it up with 256 gigabytes or more. I don't know about the Mac Mini. And it can, it can automatically allocate some of that RAM instead of a gpu, like an Nvidia card. So they may accidentally have done something really, really smart.
A
We'll see.
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Yeah, obviously we'll see. We don't know. Nobody knows anything, John. And then this is the best. I'd love to hear your opinion on this.
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Ignition. And lift off for the stars. With what?
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What is the clip? You don't know what my clip is yet?
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Yeah, there's Artemis.
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No, no, wrong.
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Sky High valuation. Elon Musk. SpaceX is suiting up to launch its IPO. A public share sale that would value the rocket Company at an eye watering $1.5 trillion first reported by the tech site the Information.
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The sale is expected to float some
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5% of the company's equity, aiming to raise around $75 billion, which would make it the largest IPO in history.
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Unlike many tech firms seeking investor funding
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on public markets, SpaceX already has significant cash flow, largely thanks to the lucrative government contracts it receives. And its major profit generator. Starlink, the satellite Internet provider, is estimated
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to have generated $8 billion in 2025,
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accounting for 50 to 80% of SpaceX total revenue. So why go public? The SpaceX acquisition of Xai in February
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saddled it with a cash hungry subsidiary
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that is reportedly burning through a billion dollars per month as it uses to catch up with rivals like OpenAI and Anthropic, both of which are also planning to go public. IPO proceeds would also fund further development of the Starship rocket and more aspirational projects like AI data centers in space and Moonbase Alpha, a self reliant lunar city. The move comes with potential downsides for the notoriously regulation averse musk like requirements for public performance reports and having to answer to Wall street analysts.
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$1.75 trillion valuation. Are you kidding me?
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That's, that's, that's, that's crazy.
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And he's talking about. Yeah, we're gonna, we need, need one. What do you say? One terawatt of compute. It's like I don't think investors are buying his bull crap anymore.
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We'll see. I bet you it sells out.
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You think? Really?
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Yeah, it's only a small part of the company. They're not unloading everything.
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No, but still the valuation is high.
A
It's ridiculous.
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And his and X AI is junk. It's junk because it was trained on junk. It's just junk. Yeah, and all he ever touts on X is oh, look at this. Oh, look at this animation of this pixie girl flying around the clock. Looks great. Okay, who's gonna pay for that? Yeah, my money.
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All these IPOs are gonna be the death knell of the market.
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Well, everyone has to get out every.
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We gotta make it.
B
We gotta. Well, the, the, the early investors will get out.
A
No. Maybe.
B
No, no, no.
A
I'm reminded that game company back in the 80s that waited one day too long to do the IPO and the market crashed.
B
Oh, what, what was that? Sega?
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No, no, SEGA was. No, SEGA is different. No, it was, it was a. Specifically a cartridge company that made cartridges for the Atari 2600. Here's. I thought you. I Always. I thought you might be bringing this up, which was the as my astronaut clip, which is very disappointing if true.
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I know we're all disappointed.
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John.
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The NASA astronaut who suffered that medical scare, offering new insight tonight. Mike Fink says he suddenly could not speak for 20 minutes on the International Space Station.
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His crew, of course, noticing him in distress.
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It prompted that first medical evacuation for NASA. Fink now saying doctors believe it was not choking or a heart attack, but he's still undergoing tests to determine what it really was. Yeah, yeah. That was not. If true, that was not our. Your prediction, I should say your prediction of a pregnancy. Pregnancy in space and notice something like that where you can't talk for 20 minutes never happens to a female astronaut. Just saying. Yeah, there it is. Took me a minute to get it out, but there it is.
A
I, I, I've got an offbeat clip if you want to hear it.
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Sure.
A
Alex Jones has a new sidekick. He does, the guy's name's Bashing or something. But no, he didn't know Bashing is the name of the clip is he's introduced in here, this guy. You know, Alex has always had this second. You know, these secondary guys that come in, you could fill in and do a show themselves.
B
Yeah. And they eventually run off and do their own show.
A
Yeah. Like that British kid. And there's a whole bunch. You, you could have become one of them.
B
Yeah, but I already had a partner who I love and cherish.
A
Yeah. Well, although my, I'm noticing my voice is starting to sound like him today. You know what I'm saying?
B
Try this. I've read the documents.
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I've read the documents.
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I know their plan.
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I know their plans. Maybe. So here he is bashing. He's, he hates the Zeds for some reason. Here he with his buddy, his new buddy bashing the Zeds. And I just, just an eye roller. Burma's good to see.
B
I've been loving you hosting the show. What a crazy time to be alive here. It certainly is, Alex. And just to kind of piggyback on what you were talking about via this generation and being just addicted to the scroll box. And it's not just this idea of trapped trace database. It's not just this idea of totally and completely taking away their attention. The studies are now out. You know, this was going to be
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part of me talking about AGI, what's
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going on right now with these data centers, but we're talking about a generation right now, Generation Z, quote unquote, that is not interested in the real world. They don't want to date, they don't want jobs, they don't want to come are. Because it's their own little comfortable world. Well, they're 40% less cognizant in both speech and writing. Period. Full stop. I mean, it's not.
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Just put that back up.
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Major studies, 40% less cognizant in speech and thought, literally retarded. So bottom line, studies printable. She see it. IPhones and smartphones and games have literally made the younger generations retard. Well, look at it this way, Alex. You know, my generation, your generation, we're only about five years apart. I would argue maybe the people 10, 15 years younger than us are really what created this idea of a podcast. I mean, you're a pioneer in that outside of the mainstream media, AKA long form content. Yet when we started seeing these video platforms ever emerging. You just mentioned Meta. Well, they own Instagram. This is a bunch of bull crap.
A
I thought so too. I stopped it at that point where the. Where he brings up the obviousity. That meadow. What? You say something like, you know what? Hey, Adam.
B
Yeah, what? Yeah, I'm here. What? What?
A
You know what? Adam? What? Meta owns Instagram.
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No. Get out of town. Next year you're gonna tell me they won WhatsApp. No, no, no. You can't be telling me that. That. Yeah, this is bad for Alex. I don't know why he's chosen this particular. I've seen this. This sidekick. I don't know the guy's name.
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The guy, the guy's interesting. He's also a UFC guy. He's like a Rogan.
B
Oh, okay.
A
And I think that's the reason.
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That's the hook now. This is because Alex is on the wrong side of this. 40% of the ZEDs are exactly the audience he can pull in because they. They don't want the phones. They are. They're going way more conservative. They want to date.
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I know. They want vinyl disks, they want vinyl diss.
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They want cassette tapes.
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There's a whole contingent that wants cassette tape.
B
Yeah, and look at Brunetti's kid. They want Bibles. I'm telling you, he's wrong about this. The people who are addicted are Gen
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X. Yeah, I agree.
B
They're the ones that are completely sucked into this stuff, man. The women here in Fredericksburg.
A
Older millennials, too.
B
Older millennials, yeah, yeah. I mean, and they're watching Candace Owens. They're on the edge of their seat every day at 4:00'.
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Clock.
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Oh, Candace is coming. That Erica Kirk. I'm Telling you she's no good. She's no good. And the short form videos, they're doom scrolling their butts off. Off. The only saving grace for them is that GLP1 will help stop their addiction. This is coming. Maybe this is my new prediction. After erectile dysfunction, GLP1 Ozempic will help you stop your doom scrolling addiction. It already does for cocaine and alcohol, you know, supposedly.
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It wouldn't surprise me.
B
So that's coming.
A
Since you mentioned Candace. Oh, I have a super cut that was done by Milk Bar TV of every comment she's made about getting to the bottom of the Charlie Kirk assassination.
B
Yeah.
A
Over the last two and a half years.
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How long is this thing? Is it 15 minutes long?
A
It could have been, but I think it did. What is the length?
B
Oh, 114. Okay.
A
Yeah, 114 is not bad.
B
Here we go. Going. We are definitively getting closer to what took place on day. And we are getting closer. I think we're close. We are definitively getting closer. We're getting close. We're getting close. Very close.
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We're inching ever closer.
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We are now, I believe, extremely close to solving this thing. As I get inch closer and closer to discovering the truth, I've got a feeling about that. We're, we're close. We're getting closer to something. And that something is pretty big. It just sends that. We're getting close, close. I sense that we are getting very close. And we are getting closer. Getting very close to something. We're getting closer because we are getting close. We are definitely getting closer. Very close. We are very close.
A
We are close.
B
We are, we are dangerously close to something. We are dead close to something. And I think every day we are inching closer. Who killed Charlie Kirk? You know, we're getting close. We're inching closer. Ever closer. We are inching closer. A little closer to solving the Charlie Kirk murder. I'm getting very close. And we are getting very close. But I'm getting closer. I'm getting real close. My prayers are with you, Candace.
A
You are close. We are close.
B
And we're getting closer to the truth. Get closer. We are getting close. She's very close now. Jason Burmes is the name of the guy. Yeah, the sidekick. He also, I think he was one of the producers of the Loose Change that. Remember that? The docus quote unquote documentary about 9 11.
A
No.
B
Yeah. Loose change, 911 and American coup. That's what it was. It came out around 20 2009, 2010. Yeah. There's something about and I feel there's a backlash growing against Candace, Just the whole group, because it's so annoying. It's so much infighting. And you've got Megyn Kelly fighting with Mark Levin online. You have a micro penis. It's like, what are we doing? You can't. I should forbid them from calling their shows podcasts. I think I have the right to do that.
A
You do.
B
They should stop doing that. Now. We have two podcasters in our administration, which was. I just have to play this for the presentation of it. It. This is the announcement of a federal healthcare advisory committee. And this is your HHS secretary, RFK Jr. And Dr. Oz. They're, like, doing a podcast now. The presentation was just. It was awe inspiring, really. Hi, I'm Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Your HHS secretary.
A
And I'm Dr. Mehmeda, CMS administration trader.
B
Code Bongino.
A
The health policy seems like everybody's a pessimist.
B
The system's too broken. The interest groups are too powerful.
A
The incentives, they're malaligned.
B
The whole Thing's too complicated. Dr. Oz ever offer some products on TV? Was he ever. Was he only a doctor doctor, or did he ever, like, have some gambit to sell?
A
He. He was. He had a syndicated TV show, and there was some product that he sold that was one of these scammish, you know, wellness things that does this. Wellness and does nothing. And he got called before Congress and was berated.
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Well, it's. This is what the problem here is. It sounds like these guys are selling me something that I don't want. This administration rejects that mindset. We take on the broken systems, we challenge the entrenched interest, and we fix misaligned incentives to deliver real results. Real results. While bringing together the top talent to take on the toughest challenges head on. And that's why today we are announcing
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the members of our new Health Care
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Advisory Committee, which will develop recommendations for
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how Secretary Kennedy and I can improve Medicare, Medicaid, the Children's Health Insurance Program, and the Health Insurance marketplaces.
B
Yeah, it was. That's right. I think it was the Dr. Oz Green Coffee bean. This just sounds like an infomercial.
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Their insights will help us cut costs,
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slash red tape, improve quality of care, keep programs solvent, and refocus. Crazy Eddie's prices are insane. Health care on the people.
A
It is meant to serve the patients.
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I am so proud of the team that we've assembled. We reviewed more than 400 candidates from all across the country, and we selected just 18. These individuals bring extensive experience from state and Federal government, from health system management, from nonprofits, and health technology innovation. Even RFK Jr is doing better with his voice. These guys, they're pitching. They're pitching hard. I know there's something about it that just doesn't feel right,
A
you know, Back to my hospital experience.
B
Ah, here we go.
A
Is. I don't think these hospitals, and I would say specifically the, the, the cafeteria or the people that, the dinners they serve you, this is all stuff from the 1940s. You know, the jello. And everything's pre packaged, horrible puddings, A bunch of everything's aspartame, it's loaded with artificial sweeteners. It's like nobody ever heard of Kennedy. And I see no influence or impact whatsoever. Oh, from Kennedy.
B
Interesting point. Yeah. Well, but the, the jello, that's contracts. I mean, those contracts have been around, around since, since Bill before.
A
It's not even jello. It's some other off brand of gelatin dessert that is unedible.
B
It's a gelatin product.
A
It's gelatin product. I mean, you have no idea how bad the food is. I lost like £10. It was like. And then they, and they had these dietitians that, the one that, that was at the hospital, I've got another one that's better. But, but the one from the hospital, she's. She might as well been from 1963. So old, old ideas, the old pyramids and really, you know, lots of carbs. Oh, you got more carbs.
B
So, I mean, did you. What was the typical dinner?
A
They'd have something like a, like a chick. Well, just an example. Something that was border. It wasn't even borderline edible, actually. It would be a piece of chick. A chicken thigh with some, you know, phony bologna. Name some gravy. The chicken thigh is so overcooked that you could literally, you could, you, you, you could pick it up and you could, you could pound a nail with it. It was unbelievable.
B
All right, so did they have a potato product, a starch product?
A
They did have, like mashed potatoes, no salt. And so it was like tasteless and the texture wasn't quite right.
B
And then string beans. String beans, yeah.
A
Always some string beans. Yep.
B
And then a gelatin product of unknown origin and manufactured date.
A
Yeah.
B
Wow.
A
In a prepackaged thing that was. Obviously came off in assembly line.
B
Yeah. So is Jano taking care of you? Is she feeding you?
A
I mean, I can cook now.
B
Now, what's the situation? Are you in bed most of the day?
A
No. God, no. Well, that's the last Thing. That's why I had to get out of the hospital. Because they keep you in bed all day. No, I gotta be up. And so back to these meals. It was like you couldn't eat any of it. And then you come in, they examined the percentage of what you ate, and it would go on your file. You only ate. You know, we can't eat any more than that.
B
And did you say it sucked?
A
Yeah, I complained bitterly the whole time, and everybody agreed with me. And it was one nurse and PA every million of these different titles coming up and down. Well, yeah, we just. Too bad we can't have food that's edible. And one nurse comes in, and I'm bitching, as usual, about the food. And one nurse is nodding, and the other one says, I think the food here is great. And I said, what? How can you say that? She says, I used to work at the va. Oh, you have no idea what bad food is. You're clueless.
B
It's kind of sad. Have you gotten any. Have you received the bills yet? This is what everyone's waiting for.
A
Oh, it's going to be a fortune.
B
But nothing yet, right? We don't. We don't have any. They're late. What are they. Why are they waiting?
A
I have no idea. We'll find out soon enough. So.
B
Okay, if you don't mind me just asking because people want to know. We're all generally concerned for your health, and people have to understand. It is amazing that you're even doing a podcast this quickly after you're. I mean, you're no Letterman.
A
No Letterman went on stage.
B
Yes. Well, now, are you going to make the meetup on the 11th? No, probably not.
A
I'm going to try to make it.
B
Oh, man. You know what? You know what you need? You need, like, Stephen Hawking. Remember when I met Minutes? Well, I didn't really meet him, but I had dinner in the same restaurant as Stephen Hawking in Los Angeles, and he had these babes, like, super hot.
A
Yeah, he apparently attracted a lot of babes.
B
Super hot nurse babes. We can get you some hot nurse babes just for the meetup. You know, just when you.
A
I think the bill's too high already at the meet. I mean, I have a couple of hot nurses. Yeah, but a little elaborate. I did pull that stunt before, something similar to that in a competition, a cooking competition in Vegas.
B
I'm pretty sure that we can get a couple of our female producers to dress up as, you know, hot nurses just for the photo op.
A
That'd be a Good photo.
B
Yeah. You're not into it. Okay, I'm just trying to cheer you up.
A
I'm over the hill for these sorts of publicity stunts.
B
Have you gotten any calls from any of your peers, like, I don't know, the Libjos, has anyone called?
A
The Libjos are clueless. They have no idea. I mean, people I talk to a lot, we all talk to each other. And has Leo Laporte called? No. He hasn't even said anything about it.
B
Oh, wow.
A
He has to know.
B
Oh, you were on Pod News.
A
I was, yeah.
B
You were on Pod News. John C. Dvorak, 18 year co host of the no Agenda podcast, has had a double bypass. We wish him well. Yeah, you were on Pod News, man. You made the Pod News.
A
Well, it's about time I got some publicity.
B
Okay, so. But you're a genius.
A
I'll bring these stories in and out.
B
All right, well, we just want to know. It's like, do you walk outside? Are you only walking in the house?
A
Well, when I'm outside. Because. Because here's the problem, and this is a two month problem. It's a huge problem. You have limited use of your arms because if you start doing anything.
B
Oh, it hurts.
A
No, it's not hurts. It, it's the. Because as you're cut down the middle of your chest, you have your, that bone there that's kind of stapled back together. They kind of with a hammer and
B
nail, some, some gaffer t tape and
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it takes like two months before it's sealed enough that you can take a chance on doing anything. And they, they like, for example, if you, they say, they tell you this, which makes it tough to walk around. So I, so they, the hospital gave me this rolling, this kind of rolly walker, which I use when I go outside. Because if you fall down.
B
Yeah.
A
In this two month period, all your screws, it cracks this thing. And then the word is if you fall down, you don't have anybody try to get you up. You call 91 1.
B
Wow.
A
Who needs that aggravation?
B
Yeah.
A
So you're very careful about things when you're wandering around. And so when you're outside, this rolling walker thing, which has got four wheels and handlebars and you can walk like a bat out of hell, you use it because you can't take a chance of stumbling or falling because who the hell needs to start the process over?
B
No, no, no. And what do they have to re. Break you? They have to cut you open again.
A
I don't know what they do. I have no idea. I don't want to know.
B
I want to find out. Does your walker have handbrakes?
A
Yeah. Cool. And a little seat. It's the cutest thing.
B
No, it's.
A
But it's like you can go. You can. You feel very confident with it. But.
B
Yeah, okay.
A
No, this is not a thing I would recommend anyone who want to go through. But the thing is, I. Mimi has a friend, Richard, who had a quadruple. And he called me up the other day. Ex police guy from LA who's a whistleblower. Made a couple million bucks turning in some mobsters or something. I don't know. He had to.
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Oh, he's run up to Washington. He's in the witness protection program up in Washington state.
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No, he's just hiding out. And so he had a quadruple. And he told me, told me the whole thing. Everything that I'm doing now is exactly what happens. And you come at the other end when you're done with the process, which is a good four months for the whole thing to blow over and you. It's okay.
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It's okay.
A
You feel better than you did before and there's a lot of benefits except, you know, yell and you get these scars you can show off. Yeah.
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At meetups. Yeah, exactly.
A
Hey, look.
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No, no, wait a minute. We already discussed this. The first rule of group is you don't show your scar.
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That's what the guy said. I told you. I mentioned that story where the guy comes in.
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Yeah, no, we. Yeah, we all think you.
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Yeah, I didn't do the kicker.
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Oh, what's the kicker?
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He lifts up his shirt and shows me his.
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I'm thinking you should go to one of these just for the experience. Go to group.
A
Yeah, I just might.
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Yeah. How could it hurt? Well.
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Well, you might. There might be a couple guys with great stories.
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That's what I'm thinking. Like, hey, here's what the babe's like. There's got to be some kind of contingency of. Of women who just love.
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Oh, can you imagine? You know, it's like groupies, you know, collectors. Yeah, I'm sure there is, to be honest about it.
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Far out with your scar out, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, a couple more clips here before we take a break. I do have the. The Artemis clip. This is not the one you had. This is about the ever delayed moon launch. For the first time in more than 50 years, NASA's about to launch launch four astronauts near the moon Artemis 2. The more than 55 billion dollar investment is a 10 day mission. Its goal is to fly astronauts around the moon and back, exploring the feasibility of building a lasting site on the moon for lunar exploration and future missions to Mars. But this step in science comes with
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a cost and missed deadlines as those
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interested in this mission are looking at it with a microscope. Will it be another delayed, expensive NASA failure or will this mission be one to impress? I mean, NASA does have a history. You can look at a lot of our OIG reports where we are way over budget and substantially behind schedule. NASA's Administrator Jared Isaacson admitted to what
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we all know on Tuesday, but added,
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at some point you have to, you know, course correct and get things back on track. Back on track after a report from, from the Government Accountability Office discovered last July that the mission was already close to $7 billion over budget. We have to do some things differently. I think you're seeing it in some of the public support.
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You're seeing it in, you know, the
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new authorization bill and this is what it takes if we're going to get the job done, to go to the moon, do so before arrivals. Isaacson, speaking on the mounting pressure of the international space race, a big part of NASA's reputation and what's at stake for this upcoming mission.
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Right now he says the agency's priority
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is developing technology to explore the Moon. But this sentiment is also a major focus point for those watching from the outside. People expressed skepticism on NASA's focus on the moon as it seems to be distracting from building a replacement international space station, something that's been deemed completely necessary by experts.
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NASA announced this week that it will
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invest $20 billion to build a base on the moon, shelving plans to deploy a space station in lunar orbit. We're trying, we're trying to get back into a rhythm. We're being very transparent. The idea is to make the transition the right way and we have to put everything out on the table. People will be watching closely to see how things play out on the moon. With Artemis 2 expected to launch on April 1st. I just love that date. If, if someone, if, if we were in charge of stuff, which will never be, and someone came in and said, oh, hey, hey bosses. Curry, Dvorak, we're going to launch this thing on April 1st. I think both you and I would be like, no, you're not right. You're going to choose a different date. Yeah, this is, this is, it's, it would be too stupid if you can't make it.
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Yeah, it's been embarrassment.
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Yeah, well, we'll have to see Well, a.
A
This might be a good one for them. Predictive betting market.
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Yeah. How much longer is that thing going to last? Will they let this go?
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Well, they're certain. Well, since it's kind of paramutual, they don't lose money. It's just like the bets come in from one side and then they change the odds. Odds come in from the other side, they change the odds, and then they take the money from the one side and give it to the other side and take a piece of the action in the middle and go on forever.
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Right. That's why they're just calling it an exchange.
A
Yeah, it's an exchange. It's a great. I mean, it should be illegal, period.
B
Paramutual. Why should it be illegal?
A
It's encouraging people to gamble.
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Well, yeah.
A
This is not healthy for the society.
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Says the man who barely talk.
A
Yeah, well, it's beside the point.
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It's not healthy for society.
A
It's not algae for the society. Play this Cash Patel clip.
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Oh, yeah, this was. This is a good story.
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Classic.
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Where is cash? Here we go. Tonight, cyber warfare unleashed with an Iranian lead group hacking FBI Director Cash Patel's personal email and posting private messages involving Patel's family and photographs of him at a time before he became director. As this war continues and as the regime is under tremendous pressure, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that the Iranians
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are potentially trying to take things to
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an even higher level than what they've done already. The hack and posting. Apparently in direct retaliation for the Justice Department taking down several websites associated with the group known as Handala earlier this month. Tonight, Hondala bluntly describing why they targeted Patel, quote, while the FBI proudly seized our domain, we decided to respond to this ridiculous show in a way that will be remembered forever. The group claims to have emails, conversations, documents and even classified files. David. The FBI says the hacked material is historical in nature and involves no government information. And the FBI says the US is offering a $10 million reward for information about the Handala hackers. Yeah, this is a marketing of these Handala hackers. This sounds like. I don't know. I mean, what. What is the point? It's. It's an old Gmail, isn't it?
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I don't know.
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Yeah, well, I have a clip and it includes our boy Brennan. Fifteen pass with the breaking news. Fifteen passes. The breaking news now reporting Iran linked hackers are claiming they have breached the personal email inbox of FBI Director Cash Patel. Breached those hackers. Hackers have published photographs of Patel along with his purported resume and what appears to be personal. I love the pictures. Goofy pictures. Goofy, stupid selfies. A correspondence dating between 2010 and 2019. But Ms. Confirmed that any of those documents are legitimate. And DOJ tells our Carol Lennig they do not know the details of this apparent hack. Joining us now, former senior CIA Director and Ms. Now senior National Security and Intelligence Analyst John Brennan. How concerning is this report? And we want to point out the hack does not cover his time as FBI Director, but it does allegedly cover the time he worked in national security and counterterrorism at DOJ. And depending on how far into 2019, possibly his time on the National Security Council. Well, Alex, the Iranians have very, very sophisticated cyber capabilities, both from the standpoint of collection as well as disruption. And I'm sure that the war ongoing right now with Iran has led to an increase in their efforts and determination to target a number of individuals with their cyber hacks and capabilities. So, again, I'm unsurprised that the Iranians
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are engaged in such activities.
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We've had to face it for the past 10 or 15 years in terms of what the Iranians have been able to do. And given that the FBI director is a high profile target target, it's again, not surprising that the Iranians would do something like this. But again, I have to underscore just how sophisticated the Iranians have become and their ability to do things like this.
A
He's not wrong about that.
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No, but Brennan's a dud. I mean, is anyone watching Miz now, Have you seen any ratings? Does that thing work?
A
It can't be good.
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I don't think so either. They're going after. They're trying to buy the VOX podcast network.
A
Ooh, that'll do it.
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Well, what I think is kind of fun about that is we had Prof. G. Scott Galloway touting with Karen. Karen. With her new name is Karen Swisher. Karen Swisher. Karen Swisher. With Karen Swisher. No, we're going to sell this show. They were in negotiations, I think, with. With vox.
A
How do you sell a show like that?
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Well, they didn't. That was the whole point. It was like, this is hundreds. This is kind of back a little bit after the Spotify days. And Rogan like, oh, we're gonna. We're gonna be 100 millionaires from the show. He was showing charts where he could make a billion dollars on advertising. And he hired 35 people for the Prof. G. Experience for all of his podcasts. And now they're getting wrapped up in a sale to Gosh. Who was it?
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Who.
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Who was it that was going to buy this?
A
Are they part of a net. Oh, you at work.
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Yeah, they're part of the Vox Media Network.
A
Oh, I did not know that.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Let me see. It was.
A
Oh, so you're gonna get nothing.
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No, of course not. My podcast. And how can you even sell it? We know what a podcast network is worth is nothing. Okay, so Vox Media. Oh, this is it. Yeah. So Vox Media, initially they had said, okay, we're putting it up for sale. And then they said, no, no, no, no, we're not selling anything. But then Versant comes along. Do you know what? Do you remember Versant?
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Yep.
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That's the, the, that's the. That's the spin. Spin off company bank that includes Ms. Now and cnbc. And they want. Their Versant is saying we want to have at least 40% non traditional content within the next two years that they're going to buy. That's a dud. You can't, you can't make money off of a podcast network. Spotify put a billion dollars into it and fail. Failed. You know who they didn't call us just for advice. Yeah, the Curry Duval Consulting Group.
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Yeah, we. You never get called for anything. I never get called for anything. We're outliers with experience and good judgment. But.
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But it would. And we're handsome. We're quite handsome. Yes.
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And nobody cares.
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Nobody cares. Well, those who are last will be first. The least will get the most. That is what I've always understood. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea and cut down the middle. Say hello to my friend on the other end. He's still alive. Mr. John C.
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Well, in the morning, Mr. Adam Curry, also in the morning. All ships and sea boots on the ground, feed in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there in the morning.
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To the trolls in the troll room. There we go. There we go. That's better. 1806 Today at the peak of our trollage, which is much better for a Sunday. People, people, I think people thought you were dead. And like, well, we're gonna give up. Who wants to hear Curry, you know what give a crap about Curry? Oh, he's back. Okay, well, we might as well tune in again. Well, you're getting. You're getting a product which we find to be quite out product from people who are not swayed by popular opinion, are not captured by an audience who tells them that you better. You better be criticizing people more. We've identified this as we had the two.
A
There's another guy besides the one. You. You're talking about something. You know, you're not critical enough. He should just be grousing about everything. Well, I mean, you don't think I grouse enough?
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Okay, no, but you have to be more of an activist. That's what he said.
A
And the other one is activism. Yeah, activist. You got to be more.
B
Push.
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Let's push some. Some. You know, people don't realize we. We don't have an agenda in regards to pushing these things. But we're not pushing. We don't push anything.
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But here, here's what, here's the problem. And it's. For some reason always focuses on me, which I don't. Maybe it's the right thing.
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Can't spell my name.
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Well, no, but when we analyze something that. That President Trump does, then we're licking his ass because we say, well, we think he's right. Oh, you're not critical. You're all in. How many shekels did you get for that? You know, so when we're not. Because we just don't agree with the narrative and there's pushback coming on all these podcasters. People are getting tired of it. They're tired of it. They want. Want just the. Just an actual opinion from somebody and not. Yeah, I brought in. Let me go on your podcast. You know, even. I gotta say, even Joe Rogan's kind of falling forward now
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a little bit.
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Yeah, I mean, he's.
A
But he doesn't go on everybody's podcast.
B
No, no, no.
A
These, these merry go round podcasts, you go on mine, I go on yours, you on his. And then he goes on mine and I go on yours. Of course, you know, round, round around they go.
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Yeah.
A
Where they stop.
B
Yeah.
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Nobody knows. We're not part of any of these clicks.
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No, we're not. That's. Oh, man, I should have clipped that. Reverend Franklin Graham said podcasts are a problem. I gotta get that clip. He was complaining about the podcast.
A
What was he referring to?
B
Oh, the podcast that are saying that. That Israel is bad and the Jews are to blame for everything. Everything.
A
Oh, yeah, they do.
B
Yeah. Well, exactly. Yeah. And you know, now Tucker is. He's got a documentary and they've got Bibi Netanyahu and his wife, and they're horrible and they're corrupt, which is probably true, but who cares? Like, okay, maybe 15 minutes of discussion.
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Yeah, who cares? It's true. Who cares?
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Anyway, the trolls are listing atnoendastream.com. that's I will say. And I've actually talked with, you know, Dave Jones, my, my buddy who is that, with this nicest, calmest guy. They call him the Pod Sage. And we do the, like a board meeting every Friday. We Talk about podcasting 2.0. And you know, we have developers on audience is like 500 people. It's, it's, it's not meant for any other consumption outside of what we're doing. And out of that group comes new features like transcripts and chapters and all this stuff that you're seeing now the big boys are implementing, which is the whole, that was the whole point. Podcasting had stagnated for a decade. It was started up and things are working okay. So great. And even he is getting snark. People just. And it's, it's older millennials, maybe some Gen X. There's something going on and people feel like they can just lash out and say whatever they want to a podcaster. You haven't noticed this because no one knows where to find you. You're in hiding. But there's something going, something in the air where people just, they just want to say you suck. You know?
A
Yeah, they. People want to say you suck.
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That's pretty much it. You suck. Yeah. So the troll room, there's a lot of that. But actually today has not been too bad. Now they are trolls. So it's to be expected here. Obviously. No agenda stream.com. and of course, we have the modern podcast apps. Just talking about it. One of the great features they have is live. Live podcasts. When you go live and you're recording live, the, the podcast app that you use to listen to your, your podcast whenever you feel like it will give you an alert. So if you want to, you can join in live and listen to it. And these things also have pod ping technology. So within 90 seconds of updating the podcast and releasing it, you'll get notified. We are a value for value podcast. And that means that there's no subscriptions, there's no advertising, there's no paywall. No, we give you everything up front and center. What you see is what you get. And if you get value out of it, then we would like to hear back from you. And you can do that with your time, your talent, or your treasure. And one of the ways people help us is by its production, because everyone who listens to the show is by definition a producer. So let me take a look here. We had episode 1854, rack out was the title of that you really had. Oh, we used the art which was kind of cool by Neswor Works and he had a gas pump. Premium podcast only, man. It doesn't happen often that you get a lot of email about one topic that you don't expect. Premium versus regular was the one. Did you get emails about this?
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I also have a mea culpa.
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Oh well let me explain first. We were talking about the difference between premium and regular. So high octane, lower octane. And I asked, I said well is this a scam? Am I just paying for this stuff when I don't have to? And a lot of people said oh yeah, you're crazy if you. Unless you have a high end high compression automobile, there's no need for it. That was that. I'm generalizing but that's kind of what I got back. And of course the tip of the day was, was always fill up your rental car with the lowest octane possible when you return it. That, that to me was the tip of the day. Like ah, obviously that's what we got to do there.
A
Well, couple of things. I'll defend the petroleum industry and say these things are all based on knock engines in your engine if you want to use lower grade fuel and let your engine knock once in a while while. Okay, good for you. It's going to hurt and damage the engine over time. But I use premium fuel because I drive a Lexus old one 20 year old. But still. The second thing is this is my fault. I talked about the low sulfur diesel and I kind of conflated it with the stupid blend that we have in California for gasoline which is special to California. And I said it's going to take over the whole country, blah blah blah. No, it's a federal low sulfur diesel. As one of the producers pointed out. It's the diesel's the diesel everywhere and it's really expensive.
B
So that can be changed at a federal level. How come President Trump doesn't change this?
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What's he going to do?
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Just tell them to stop the get let the sulfur free?
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No, I think they've, you know, they've gotten used to this blend. It's better. The high sulfur diesels make a mess. It's probably a better product.
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Well, we got the farm diesel here. All the good old boys, they put that farm diesel in their pickup trucks and they roll coal along the road. You can always tell it's like oh, you got farm diesel. So thanks to Nessworks for bringing us that artwork. There were a couple other Things that we looked at. I think we can kind of move past the hospital art. I think John is no longer in the hospital hospital. You kind of liked Dan OBGYN4's slot machine, which.
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Yeah, I did. I think it's an evergreen. I might use it.
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Possible evergreen. Scaramanga's homemade missile on the surfboard was kind of cute. A lot of ship stuff. So I don't know. I think nessworks kind of nailed it. Premium podcast only was good. We liked it.
A
And you actually liked it a lot because you felt that it was not, you know, a big AI effort.
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Well, nessworks is not necessarily an AI effort type of guy. So, yeah, I did like that. I thought that was good. So we thank. We thank you for. For your courage, nessworks. And we thank everybody who participates at no Agenda Art Generator dot com. So it is time, talent and treasure again. The idea is you get value out of this show. You like the analysis. You thought it was. Was worthwhile, you'd like it to continue. You've got one man on his deathbed. He's dialing in from his deathbed. That might be valuable to you to have your show. All you have to do is send that value back to us. And we can't determine what that is. That's up to you. We don't know what is valuable to you. So you go to noagendadonations.com and you send us some value. Now we're going to thank everybody, $50 and above in one segment. And we start with our executive and associate executive producers. These are people who get an extra benef benefit because they are able to support us with $200 or more. And that means not only do you read your note guaranteed, but we also give you an associate executive producer credit, which is good anywhere. Hollywood credits are recognized. And it's a real one because you did exactly what executive and associate executive producers do, which is help finance the product. $300 or above, and it's the same deal, only then you become an executive producer. And both of these can be used at IMDb. Are we going to do this Night of the Heart order? What is the other.
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Yeah, Paul Couture is working on the art for a pin. A special pin.
B
Yeah.
A
That you put on your lapel. Yeah, it's going to be. Yeah, it's going to be the Red Knight, and we're going to roll it out on my birthday.
B
It's the Order of the Red Knight.
A
No, you are a red Knight. It's the Order of the Order of the Heart. Or the red heart.
B
Okay. And wait a minute. Your birthday is when it's. Isn't that coming up soon? Like next week?
A
Yeah, like the 5th.
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The 5th of April. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. He said. I don't know what happened there. Well, coming in either. Yeah, I was sorry about that. Coming in as our top executive producer for today, saving the entire show.
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Yes, yes, it was a very poor showing today, except for a couple of checks that came in.
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Well, Dame Catherine, she is the crypto granny of Bangkok. Came in with a. In bitcoin, a whopping $5,000. And she says, john, thank you for not dying. We need you. I think you got to pull this gambit more often. What can you do next? Like, I don't think.
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I believe it's not worth the trouble.
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Kidney stones. We have to do something. Adam, you're a rock. You kept your head about you and hold on, Let me expand this. And soldiered on. Bravo. Mimi, thank you for filling in during John's medical adventure. Hope this helps with the medical bills. It will. I'm grateful to be a Hodler since the early days. I must give thanks to Max Kaiser to the moon. And she ends up by saying, being rich is having enough to share with others. She is Dame Catholic, the crypto granny of Bangkok. And we thank you so much. Named Catherine.
A
That was very. Whatever happened to Max Kaiser?
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Well, they're all living in El Salvador now.
A
Oh, really?
B
You know who else is moving to El Salvador? Texas Slim. He is, by presidential appointment, in charge of all beef agriculture of El Salvador.
A
Wow. Wow. So I had an El Salvadorian that I met with in the hospital. He was just one of the. One of the guys who they called transport. They drag you around and you keep you in your bed and they roll you all over the place. And I had a long chat with him. He says El Salvador has become the greatest place ever. When he was a kid that you couldn't go outside, they'd shoot you.
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Yeah. You got rousted or killed. I never. No. Well, that's Bukele.
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And he says that the guy, this president, the guy's running it. He doesn't need any money. He's loaded. And, you know, there's no way of going corrupt.
B
That's Bukele.
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He says it's a terrific place.
B
Yeah. And you know what they did? They made bitcoin the money of the country.
A
Currency.
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Yeah, it's the currency. And a lot of people have moved there. Max and Stacy are there and pretty much Full time now. I think it's only what, two and a half hour flight from Texas. I'm going to go visit when Slim is there. Oh, yeah, so he's in charge. He's going to. I think he has a press conference with the President Bukele on the 14th of April. And yeah, so he's going to do everything from the regenerative farming to the processing. And he has beef.com. somehow he got beef.com. little old, little old Texas Slim. Man, he's doing good. I'm so, so happy for him. He says, adam, I'm beat as Jimmy Dean of beef and I don't doubt him. So that's what's going on in El Salvador.
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Well, thanks to Dame Catherine, Matthew Lambs up. He's in Johnson City, Tennessee. Five hundred bucks. This I just, I believe is just a check that showed up in an envelope with no note, no nothing. It made no sense. But I'm sure if he wants to communicate, he will. But he'll get a double up. Karma. In the meantime. You've got
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karma.
A
All right.
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Then we have a valuable account indeed. This is a great name from Plains, Pennsylvania. 500 with a handwritten note. Looks like some paper from a high school notebook book. Dear John, Adam plus Mimi, my cousin, also named John, also had a heart attack this week. Sadly, he passed away, leaving behind his wife, children and one grandchild. He was a great guy and will be missed. Please count your blessings, John. Get way, get, get well, stay healthy and four more years. Sincerely, a valuable account accountant indeed. Not account accountant indeed. And he breaks it down. 333.33 value for value. A boob donation for Mimi. She's a lovely woman. And a 808 boob for John. A reason to live. And $6.51 for JC covering DH unplugged. He's great. Plus prayers for Adam and Pastor Jimmy. A wonderful show they do. There are three types of accountants. The kind that you can count on and the kind that can't. That can't. Okay.
A
Get it?
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Yeah, I get it. The kind that can count and the kind that can't. There you go. Well, this is a valuable accountant indeed. And we thank you very much for your support of the show.
A
No, the joke was there's three types.
B
I know, but there's no third.
A
Then you get it.
B
Yeah.
A
Okay. Ron Camacho. Camcho. Ron Comcho. Camcho. Sugar Island, Texas. 33333. Foremost want to thank John or thank you, John, for not dying. You're welcome. I started listening in March 2026. Recent listener, huh? First time donor. I need a de douching. You've been de douched. My Spicewood, Texas daughter turned me on to you guys. Thank you for your enlightenment. It's appreciated. I apologize for not donating sooner. I leave with this in the spirit of Texit.
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Yes.
A
And in the words of Sam Houston, Texas will again lift its head and stand among the nations. It ought to do so for no country upon the globe can compare with it in natural advantages. God bless you, the no agenda show and God bless Texas.
B
Amen. That's right.
A
One of those guys.
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Yeah, well there's a lot of them here and I'm one of them. Colleen Westerhouse in Churubusco, Indiana. I think it's Churubusco. Someone gave me crap me on. My sister in law gave me crap the other day because I said portage, Indiana. She called me up, says it's portage. We're Midwesterners. Stop with the French stuff. So I don't know if you pronounce this Churubusco or Churubusco, but it's in Indiana. ROV ducks 222.22. No note that I could find from Colleen, so we'll give her a double up. Karma.
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You've got
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karma.
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Christopher graves in Somerset, California.
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Now we know. Christopher.
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Christopher. Yes, duo 329. This is a note. So thank you to Eli the coffee guy. When Eli reached out and asked if Little John's could make chocolate with coffee. By the way, we got some of these things.
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You got some already? I haven't received any.
A
Well, I think so because Jay's talking about you eat one and you go to the moon.
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I gotta get to the PO Box,
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make chocolate with coffee. I jumped at the chance to co brand with another like minded business owner. Getting the chance to collab, collab with two of my favorite things, chocolate and coffee, and then promote it to the best podcast in universe is an honor. Yes, thank you Eli, for making a better me, a better businessman and a better candy maker maker. Connection is protection. Try our limited edition chocolate bars@littlejohnscoffee.com or gigawatt coffeeroasters.com 203 29.
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Yeah, it's little johnscandies.com.
A
what did I say?
B
You said Little John's coffee. That's. That's what a collab will do to you.
A
No, that's. That's from the drugs.
B
What drugs are you on?
A
Nothing.
B
What? Nothing for pain.
A
Pain? No, I don't have Any pain. I have aches and I have like sore back and neck and things like that. But I, but I don't. I never appear. And I asked about this, by the way, not to go on about this. These ailments. Yeah, but because they come into. Everyone come in, well, we're going to do this and that. And then somebody else comes in, we're going to do this and that. And then they always say, you have, do you have any pain?
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Oh, and I said, no. There's a little chart with where on this chart is your pain level? That.
A
And I said, no, you got pain from 0 to 10. I don't have any pain. This went on and on and on. And so one. So somebody comes in once and I said, okay, I don't have any pain. But why are what, you know, I can't seem to make it clear. And so what is the pain that people have? Ah, because after, you know, you have your while you wonder what the hell this horrible pain. Because they keep asking and I guess one of the doctors described it feels like you're being stabbed. Wow, I'm glad I don't have that. Well, at least there's one thing I avoided.
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You're doing so well. Two out over two hours and your energy went up. It's amazing.
A
Yeah. Well.
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Hey, we've got Geert Lankar in Breda in the Netherlands. 288 cents. That's a give John a reason to live donate and he has a note with his associate executive producers John and Adam itm. I've been listening since COVID and have never missed a show since. Thank you for bringing sanity in the world of news and media. This donation of $200.88 is a shout out to my brother. Huntz, who has moved from the Netherlands to Phoenix, Arizona, did that a while ago. He's a mechanical engineer independent product developer who's a total beast at 3D and CAD design and he's looking to get more clients in the U.S. he is fully authorized to work in the U.S. he's got a green card and he's ready to take on your 3D design needs for mechanical engineering. You can look him up on smartinoventions.com that's smartinoventions.comthat's smartinnovenchind.com or contact him infoad-downloads.com kindly play the jingle for him. Jobs, jobs, jobs. We vote for jobs. Keep up the great work and thank you for your attention to this matter, says Geert Lankar from Breda in the Netherlands.
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Jobs Jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. And there's Linda Lupatkin, Castle Rock, Colorado. 200 bucks. Jobs. Karma. Your resume. Resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't. For a resume, have that.
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Oh, nice. Nice one.
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Linda helps professionals and ex executives turn their experience into a clear story of leadership results and impact. That's Image Makers Inc. With the kids. And Linda Lou, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes. Best Linda. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
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Let's vote for jobs. By the way, when you're back at home base, I don't know, it's going to take a couple months. Whenever you get to go back home, you must be ready to go back home already. I know you. You're like, I want to be yesterday. Yeah. What's it like living with your kids, kid?
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Well, you know, Brennan is a chatty guy, so it's fun to talk with these. With him.
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Yeah.
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And it's good to work with Jay, and it's just interesting.
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I gotta tell you, Jay, I think
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it's annoying to them. I can't.
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No, she. First of all, she loves you so much. I try to slow her down. Like, easy does it. He'll disappoint you somewhere along the way. Just don't.
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Oh, yeah, let's hope so.
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But she is a. She's a rock star. She really is. She didn't skip a beat. You know, maybe she. Maybe she didn't care. Oh, the old guys. And then I gotta live in my house. But she is so good. She just keeps on. She could. Had she ever done a podcast?
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She. She doesn't enunciate.
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Oh, I just remember her when she was 14 or 15. That's the last time I saw her. Now she's all grown up and married and doing stuff. She's cool.
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Everybody loves Jay.
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Yes.
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So we could do the rest of these because this is the shortest list we've ever had.
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Yeah, I'm going to go right through it. I'll do them all.
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Never. Wait, let me stop you. This is the shortest list of donations we've ever had. A total count, with the cryptogranny and all the rest thrown in, of 19 people.
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Now, is it that bad?
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Part of this is the newsletter is a. Is has to be re. Developed.
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Yeah.
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Because it's just not getting to anybody.
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It's. You mean they're not actually receiving it or it's not. It doesn't have impact.
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They're not receiving it.
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They're not receiving it. Oh. What changed Besides, you almost died.
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No, this changed about six to nine months ago. And I noticed it then and I was slow to act. Yeah, now I'm slower. So it's going to be a nightmare to get this thing back on track.
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Well, voidzero is ready to help.
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I mean, I know I want to talk to him.
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Okay, well, talk to him. Talk to your friend. He has ideas. If anyone knows email, it's void zero.
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No, he's a borderline genius.
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He is. Except when he like it's Wednesday afternoon, I'm doing show prep. He's like, I'm just upgrading the mail server.
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Yeah, that would be him.
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I need some email to be able to do my prep. Now, he is not borderline. He is a certified genius. So we'll thank these few people. Larry alar in Cochrane, Minnesota, 8888. I came for Adam but stayed because of John. Be well, my friend. He said Sir Nubbin. Indianapolis, Indiana, 8888. And he says there's evidence of promotion to Barron. Dear Adam, on show 1839, you credited to Chris Moore instead of Sir Nubbin as requested several times in notes and emails. Thank you for your attention to this matter. I believe we are correcting that today. Sir Michael Biskegli. Biskegli. Biskegli. He's from Staten island and he sent in. Oh, this is a get well note. It was a very nice card that he sent. Let me see. Yes, yes. It said, bringing you the strength you need today and every day. Get well soon. I'm happy you're out of the hospital and on the mend. Says Michael with his 8888. That's nice. Nice when people send cards like that. It's old school. And with $80.08, he's there every single show. Sometimes twice. Sir Kevin McLaughlin. He is the archdude of Luke, Lover of America and Boobs. And. And as always, he says, God bless America and boobs. Lane Lamoureaux, $55 from the Middle of Mesopotamia. Rockets, drones and missiles. Oh my. Proving not all Americans have gone bonkers. From a university in Baghdad. Thanks for your. Thanks to your deconstruction. So it says San Francisco, but I guess he's in Iraq.
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Sounds like it.
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Yeah. Well, stay safe. Surprise of. He's the night of astonishment. 54 and 44 from Yukon Oklahom Tyler the mailman, Arlington, Washington. 5111. I love you guys. Keep going on five ever. That's more than forever. Bobby Boo in Bluegrass, Iowa. 50 Nathan Knoll in Nederland, Texas. 50. Terrence Clark in Jacksonville Beach, 50. And finally, our last 50 is Joshua Johnson from Omaha, Nebraska. And these make up our executive and associate executive producer producers and our $50 and above producers for episode 1855. Thank you all very much for those of you who supported us and consider supporting us by going to no agenda donations.com youm will not regret supporting the best Podcast in the universe because that means we'll keep going even when people are on their deathbed. I'm telling you. Noagendadonations.com. Also a short list on the birthdays, but they are here. Evan Mackey celebrates a birthday and let me see, layaway Night, Sir Exiled Maniac. I don't have any dates for these guys, but I'll just take it as it's their birthday. So happy birthday from everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe. Well, I'm very sorry, Sir Nubbin. I'm not sure exactly what went wrong, but there was no malice intended. So today you receive your long overdue and deserved title Change. You now become a baron. And we thank you for your courage and for your support. The best podcast in the universe. So we do have one night. It is a layer layaway night and I believe I have a note here. This is from a Jackson Pollock and he will become Sir Exiled Maniac. He says, John Adam marches donation of 30. Oh, this is a long time. Layaway. 3333 should leave me a penny short of knighthood. So if you can spare a penny. I mean, do I have my pennies? I. Ever since I went to Linux, I think I lost my pennies. You know, the Linux machine sucked up the pennies. Do I have it? Nope. I'm gonna have to look for. How much to look for?
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IOU.
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Yes, it'll be. IOU is right. There you go. I think the ROI will be worth it. I've also sent an additional 3,333 this month in order to sponsor a douchebag save a podcaster. I hope this concept catches on. JCD's life and the show may depend on it. Please night me, Sir Exiled Maniac. Kennel ma, the Dutch Shepherds and Belgian Malinois. Malinois. Malinois. You know who has Malinois? Laura Logan. She got five of them.
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I had one.
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Yeah, but these. These are the ones that bit Luke Coffey and he had to get plastic surgery on his face.
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No, that's not good.
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No, she has five of them and they get out all the time and they're on the street, roaming around like they are killers.
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They can. I had one that was gentle.
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Yeah.
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But this dog, nothing could contain him. He would get escape. He was an escape artist. Now, one time we dropped him off at a kennel and we said, this dog will escape and don't worry about it. We got secure facilities. And so then we see the guy the next time, and he says, so I lock the dog up and I'm walking down the hall and I hear something clicking behind me. The dog is walking right behind me.
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They are escape artists. Let me say. That was actually pretty funny. Let me save that one. So I need to read some of this note. I don't know if you saw. If you saw this note, but this is a hilarious note. Okay, so I've been having this recurring dream, and I'm starting to think it may have something to do with the best podcast in the universe. It goes something like this. Since the pandemic, I've been down on my luck and financially struggling. Trapped. So I started directing gay porn movies out of my house, unbeknownst to my wife. While she's at work, I'm working with my associate executive producer, Dana Brunetti, and our biggest star, Eli the coffee guy. We are discussing the next scene, which involves little John's candied beads and a gigawatt coffee enema, followed up with good old fashioned La Jolla salt rub and tug. Suddenly, the front door flies open and my wife, Linda Liu, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes, unexpectedly comes home and cries out in horror, Mr. Timothy, what in the world? What have you been shopping at Bad Idea Supply again? Then she starts yakking at me. Something about if I don't change my wicked ways, find Jesus and go to ImageMakersInc.com that's ImageMakers, Inc. With a K. She's always repeating herself and get myself a winning resume that gets results. And there's no doubt in her mind that I would end up working at Martell Hardware for the rest of my life. About this time, my alarm clock goes off, and from the radio, I hear the spooky voice of a washed up VJ exclaiming in the morning, followed by his geriatric handler sidekick bitching and moaning for three hours about low donations. What can all of this madness mean? When will this PSYOP end? 4 more years is what my conspiracy therapist keeps telling me. But he says it may end a whole lot sooner or less. All the douchebags in the universe donated at least once, no matter the amount. Although 3333 is the magic number. Ball is in your court, douchebags. Stay safe and donate. That's a Jackson Pollock. Plus, no agenda is a Picasso. And that means that we need to ignite this guy. So if you can grab that little tiny store. That's beautiful. So, Jason, come on up. Here he is, the exiled maniac. And you now officially will become Sir Exiled Maniac, Kennel master of the Dutch Shepherds and Belgian Malinois. And for you, we have, as always, hookers and blow, Rent boys and chardonnay. We got harlots and Hal do. We've got redheads and ryes, beers and blunts, Cowgirls and coffee varnish, Rubin esque women and rose geishas and sake bakke Manila bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider, Nesqua ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablum. And as always at the round table, especially for people who write funny notes like that, we've got mutton and mead. You, sir, head over to noagenderrings.com and give us your ring size so we can send that off to you post haste. They always come with a certificate of authenticity and a couple sticks of wax so you can add those to your gay porn movie. Danny Brunetti will help you for sure. And welcome to the roundtable, the no Agenda Knights and Dames meetups.
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Meetups?
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Well, you heard it earlier. Collabs happen, businessmen get together and all kinds of beautiful things take place. Connection is protection at the no Agenda Meetup. These people will be your first responders in any emergency or in business venture for that matter. And you can find them all@noagendameetups.com today there is a meetup, and that is at 6 o', clock, the northern wake no Agenda Counter North Sea Nexus Planning Committee meetup. And that'll be in North Carolina at Saints and Scholars. So make sure you check that out. Coming up this month. This coming month. April 4th. Osaka, Japan. I know that's gonna be a good meetup. We got a lot of people in Osaka. Eagle on the 11th. This is a big day for the meetups. Eagle, Idaho. Albany, California. Sounds like John just might make it. Ladies, get your hot, sexy nurse outfits on for the photo op. Lafayette, Louisiana and Fredericksburg, Texas. Also on the 11th. I will be there with the keeper, Pastor Jimmy coming. Well, we've got Matt Long. It's going to be a hootenanny. The 16th. Charlotte, North Carolina. The 18th. Ford, Wayne, Indiana. Franklin, Tennessee. Always a good meetup over there on the 18th. Vancouver, BC the most broke place in Canada. But they'll be doing a meetup on the 19th. April 25th, Scheifeninge in the Netherlands. The 26th, Brighton in Michigan and Leipzig in Germany on April 30th. No agenda meetups. You will not regret going to these at least once in your Life. Go to noagendameetups.com if you can't find one near you, you no worries. All you got to do is start one yourself. It's easy and always guaranteed a party. Noagendameetups.com. All right, I got. It's time for some isos here. Do you. You only. You have two. I see you got two isos. All right, I'll play mine first and we'll see how we do. In the morning.
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A very good show hosted by very good people.
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That apparently was real. Although that. Well, maybe I'm wrong. It came. I thought it came from the this Sean Hannity show, but I could be wrong. In the morning.
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A very good show hosted by very good people.
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But I think it's AI. Here's another one.
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As always, fascinating. Yeah.
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All right. Okay.
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All right. I got two.
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Yes.
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See ya.
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See ya. Catch you later. Take it easy. Okay. Not bad.
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And then. Impressive.
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That's impressive. Hmm. I think I like see you the best. I kind of See ya. Catch you later.
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Take it easy.
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I think we should leave it with see ya.
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Okay.
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All right, we'll do that. Hey, everybody, before we go anywhere, it is time for John's tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.
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Well, not being out and about and the last tip we picked, I've decided what obvious things should people have that would be a tip of the day. And I got another one.
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Okay.
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It's not on the list. I don't know why we haven't picked it before, but everybody should have one of these. A carbon monoxide monitor.
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Oh, yes, I actually have one. One?
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You have one?
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Yes, for when I fly. I haven't used it in a while, but yes, I have one for in the cockpit.
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Well, there's a lot of them. There's tons of them out there. They're about the. The two I'll recommend is first alert, which is 23 bucks. And then there's the kid, Kitty K I d d e, 27 bucks. These are brands that are known and they're not expensive and they're valuable protection that everyone should have, especially in and around the kitchen if you have gas, appliances.
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Now, are these just simple Ones that beep or make a noise or can you get them that connect to an app so your app will alert you?
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No, but there's plenty that do. And you can look for those.
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You know, in Plains, we have a very cheap one. One which is a little disc, and the disc changes color. And then you know that there's a lot of carbon monoxide.
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Yeah, I'd rather have something beeping at me.
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Yeah. And. And excuse me. I've had them go off like false positive. And here's what the pilots do. How do you feel? You feel okay? Yeah. You feel funny? No, I feel good. All right. Feel good. You sure? Okay. All right. Feel good. All right. That's your check. Because if you feel funny, then you're
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like, yeah, maybe if you feel funny, you're in trouble.
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Open the window or do something like that. There it is, everybody. If you want to find more of these tips today, go to no agenda fun.com tipoftheday.net Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD and sometimes
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Adam, created by Dana Brunetti.
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There it is. Dana Brunetti, known for the gay porn.
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Apparently now in only give you a grief for that.
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Well, hey, he needs to do some kind of project. Might as well be in somebody's dreams. End of show mixes. MVP is back on. And Molly Berry comes in. Molly Baird at the order of the heart. End of show mix. Yep. I am your sloperator playing those tunes for you.
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You know, these mixes today are pretty good.
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They are. Well, they have good lyrics. People are figuring out how to, you know, use good lyrics. And then it's. It. It's not as offensive that it's AI, but, you know, according to Rick Beo, we'll all be making them ourselves on our Mac Minis at home. And for more media deconstruction and more on the war, we'll be back on Thursday and we hope you will join us. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country right here in Fredericksburg, Texas, where we love the Comanches. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from Northern.
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Oops, I'm sorry, Northern San Francisco Bay Refinery Row, I'm John C. Dvorak.
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We'll be back on Thursday. Please remember us@noagendadonations.com and stay tuned for the millennial media offensive, next on noagendastream.com until Thursday. Adios, mofos. Whoi hooey and such. All right, folks, settle down. Settle down now. All right, folks, settle down. Settle down now. Next up we got a real treasure for you. It's V4V. And make a donation. Now who'll start the bidding for me at a 5. Got a 5 and now a tenner.
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Who? Give me 10, now 10.
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$10. Bidding now 15. Who's it? $15. I got it now 20. 20, 20. Make it 20. $20, now 25. Got to keep this show alive.
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25.
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I got it.
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Who give me 30? Come on folks, don't do me dirty. Got 30, now 35.
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35.
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Will you give me 5?
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$35 from the lady in the shack. Now 40. 40. Get on track. 40 bucks now 45. Get the showmanship, man alive. 45. I hear it now 50. 50. Come on, be thrifty. B4V. What a deal. This best podcast for real. 50 bucks.
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Gonna do it now. 50 bucks.
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Take a bow. 50 bucks. 50 bucks every show. Anyone for this fine golden flow? Going twice. Are you sure? It's really nice. 55. I got 55 for the no agenda show. 60, 60, 60. Gonna do it twice a week, you know. Got 60 now 5.
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65.
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80. 80. And sold for 80 to the man with the lady. Don. Cold night there in the B road
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breath Felt the shadow creeping like a second de hand on my heart Felt
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the spark ignite in the dark I was marked by the red knight in
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the grip of death Couldn't feel my
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veins but if I came back when I spoke his name we are the night that won't give in the order of the heart begins no agenda just
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stay alive through the dark we learn
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to fight out of the black, black,
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black into the light I rise with the flame of the red night no
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fear left no compromise I saw the edge and I chose to rise Pulled my breaths back from the edge Took my life back from the very ledger we are the night that won't give
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in order of the heart Beginning in the morning I'm still alive I survived
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the grip of the night out of the dark into the light with the
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red night I survive the best podcast in the universe.
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Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org na see ya. Catch ya later.
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Take it easy.
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Date: March 29, 2026
This episode of the No Agenda Show features Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstructing recent media narratives and political events, with sharp commentary on the “No Kings Day” protests, ongoing geopolitical conflicts (especially the US-Iran war), upheavals in Canada, land acknowledgments, and the evolving tech industry. John reflects on his ongoing recovery from a heart operation. The episode is peppered with humor, media clips, and the duo’s signature skepticism.
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Lively, skeptical, and irreverent. Curry and Dvorak blend sharp media criticism with personal anecdotes, biting wit, and a populist-tuned radar for propaganda, bureaucratic overreach, and corporate hype. The episode flows through clipped news segments, live deconstruction, inside jokes, and audience engagement, maintaining a brisk pace despite John’s recent health ordeal.
An episode rich in political analysis, media parody, and cultural commentary, set against the backdrop of John’s recovery and the show’s enduring listener-driven model. The duo’s chemistry and skepticism drive a multi-issue, multi-geography dissection of today’s headlines—delivering both laughs and food for thought.
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