1863 - "Nekkidly"

Summary

No Agenda Show – Episode 1863: “Nekkidly”

Date: April 26, 2026
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Theme: Deconstructing Media, Dissecting Current Events, and Exposing Narrative Spin

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

Episode 1863 of the No Agenda Show, titled “Nekkidly,” sees Adam and John deep-dive into an intense week of breaking news and media reactions. From alleged false flags and a chaotic White House Correspondents’ Dinner to the fallout from a high-profile shooting and continued scrutiny of big institutions (the Southern Poverty Law Center, Big Pharma, the Federal Reserve), the hosts deconstruct media manipulations, the narratives being spun, and provide their incendiary analysis with familiar irreverence and skepticism. The show also features Alex Jones clips, oddities of the digital age, and a detour into Michael Jackson’s pop culture legacy.

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DISCUSSION BREAKDOWN

1. Emergency: The White House Correspondents’ Dinner Shooting

00:01-17:18

• Opening Salvo: The show opens with John ribbing Adam about missed “emergency pod” texts, immediately hinting at this week’s urgency: “Oh man, we live in such an amazing world. Right away, right away, right away was false flags. False flag. Everyone's laughing, it's a false flag.” (01:08, Dvorak).
• False Flag Mania and Media Hype:
  • John decries the instant social media consensus labeling the events as a “false flag”, referencing Fox News’ Aisha Hasni being cut off mid-call: “She was about to blow the false flag!” (02:44, Dvorak).
  • Refers to media’s love for “three-name characters” and numerology jokes about the shooter’s last name ranking (#33).
• Dinner Disrupted:
  • Coverage of the shooting at the dinner, which Trump attended for the first time in years.
  • Trump’s surprising message of unity: “There was a tremendous amount of love and coming together. I watched, and I was very, very impressed by that.” (07:13, Trump)
  • John snarks: “A message of unity from the President… It got even worse. He wanted to go straight ahead and… not cancel the night.” (07:26, Dvorak)
• Media-Presidential Tension:
  • The event’s tension: 200+ journalists signed a letter demanding Trump be “called out.”
  • “A guy that hates the press is at a dinner that honors the press… You can't even make this up anymore.” (05:02, Levitt)

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2. Media Reactions & Shooter Narrative Construction

17:18-28:13

• The Gunman and Protocols:
  • Discussion on the shooter’s travel by train and media speculation about new security measures.
  • “You got a palm tree and a 30-aught-six. What? Yeah.” (18:07, Curry)
• Narrative Shifts:
  • Some pundits (Margaret Brennan) attempt to frame the event in terms of the Second Amendment and rising threats to democracy.
  • John and Adam call out the vagueness and poor logic: “You're trying to bring logic into her monologue.” (15:24, Dvorak)
• Manifesto & Shooter’s Motive:
  • Shooter’s note emerges, posted to LinkedIn—“This is the new manifesto posting spot.” (23:29, Dvorak)
  • The note rails against “pedophile, rapist, traitor” targets, bizarrely excusing “Patel.”
  • The phrase, “coat my hands with his crimes,” puzzles them. The Book of Knowledge bot fumbles the meaning. (24:12-24:57)
• Media Footage Scepticism:
  • John and Adam ridicule the poor hotel camera footage: “Can we, in this day and age of 48 megapixel phones, possibly get better video?” (21:46, Dvorak)

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3. SPLC & Alex Jones Spiral

28:13-46:10

• Alex Jones Rants:
  • Jones implicates SPLC, ADL, Democrats, and “globalist mad scientists creating a giant AI cyborg mass neural network known as the Intergalactic Communication System.” (28:52, Jones)
  • Adam fact-checks, noting the “intergalactic” concept comes from early Internet pioneer J.C.R. Licklider, not a crazy conspiracy. (29:39, Curry)
  • Jones' stories about his dad’s recruitment for eugenicist shadow groups are dissected (“he's just rambling”) and met with skepticism.
• SPLC Legacy & Criticism (Stossel’s 2017 exposé; 41:29):
  • SPLC’s mission creep: originally targeting the KKK, now accused of “smearing” dissidents.
  • No Agenda notes SPLC’s ballooning endowment ($900M+), questionable hate group listings (targeting Ben Carson, Laura Ingram, omitting Antifa).
  • “They become a hate group itself. It’s now a left wing money grabbing slander machine.” (45:00, Stossel)
• Government Ties and Regulatory Changes:
  • Discussion of Justice Department ending relationships with SPLC (46:32, Capehart), and pending rules mandating nonprofits to disclose major donors, potentially exposing more about SPLC’s backers.

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4. Apple’s Future, Technology, and AI Dilemmas

48:53-54:01

• Apple’s Leadership Transition:
  • The looming departure of Tim Cook. Apple’s future argued to be in local-AI and hardware-centric approaches.
  • John: “I have a feeling Apple could come out a huge winner… it all depends on what kinds of snazzy stuff they can… I mean, for their desktops, maybe.”
• Anthropic/Claude Pricing:
  • AI subscription models are inflating: “You’re $100 a month, now you have to pay $200 a month. People at the side of the street with tin cups going, ‘Hey man, just need some tokens.’” (52:44, Dvorak)

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5. AI and Crime: OpenAI in the Hot Seat

54:01-59:50

• AI as an Accomplice:
  • Florida opens a criminal probe into OpenAI after the FSU shooting, as the shooter used ChatGPT over 200 times for planning.
    • “If it was a person on the other end of that screen, we’d be charging them with murder.” (54:48, prosecutor)
  • Broader implications as Canadian shooting perpetrator flagged for “policy violations” but authorities not alerted.
• Ethical Dilemmas:
  • “Isn’t that the same if I was asking you for advice… and you told me this, that and the other?” (58:19, Curry)
  • OpenAI’s safety team was disbanded prior to these events, fueling concerns.

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6. U.S.-U.K. Diplomatic Tangle & Falklands Redux

61:55-74:34

• King Charles III Visit Controversy:
  • British media and MPs are embarrassed or angry about the royal state visit to Trump’s U.S. after inflammatory remarks and geopolitical strains.
  • “I think Charles is here to negotiate the terms of surrender with Trump.” (62:43, Dvorak)
• NATO Discord & The Falklands:
  • U.S. floating (leaked) threats to review British sovereignty of Falklands as “punishment” for lack of Iran war support.
    • “Britain may not be able to defend it; Argentina is rearming with NATO allies' help.”
  • Trump’s ties to Argentina’s Javier Milei seen as a strategic needle against UK interests.

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7. Big Pharma Under Fire

75:06-85:40

• German Whistleblower (Ex-Pfizer Toxicologist) Testimony:
  • Fast-tracked COVID vaccine omitted key carcinogenicity and reproductive toxicity tests.
    • “Community should not have been approved at all under the regulations.” (79:16, Dr. Sterz)
    • Estimated underreporting of deaths; 1200+ within two months post-approval, possibly up to 60,000 actual deaths in Germany.
  • Manufacturing differences: “The public received a vaccine produced using E. coli bacteria, significant contamination with bacterial DNA, heavily increased cancer risk.” (81:07, Dr. Sterz)
• FDA Non-Enforcement Shocker:
  • Despite a 2007 law requiring public disclosure of all clinical study results, the FDA has collected “zero” dollars in fines for violations. “Pharma would owe $19 billion.” (83:20, S)
  • Hope for recourse centers on RFK Jr. (now in a federal health role), but skepticism abounds.

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8. Commodities, Oil Sanctions, and Manipulation

92:50-101:59

• Oil Shortages Past & Present — Real or Manufactured?
  • Classic Mike Wallace interview with the Shah of Iran reveals (in 1974) oil companies manipulating shipping and prices.
  • Discussion of Mark Rich, shadow oil trading, today’s sanctions dodges via Malaysia/China/India.
    • “All of this stuff is fake and gay. What you’re paying at the pump now. Fake and gay.” (98:49, Dvorak)
  • Conclusion: The global commodity market is opaque and dominated by shadow traders; sanctions rarely work as intended.

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9. Manosphere & Podcast Dissonance With Trump

102:10-106:43

• Trump’s Deportation Policy Backlash:
  • Former super-fans and manosphere podcasters sour on Trump as mass deportations and workplace raids are ramped up.
  • “Military in the street – I think is a dangerous precedent.” (102:45, Alex Jones)
• No Agenda’s Neutrality:
  • Direct address to critics: “We’re not defending or supporting anything. We’re trying to see it from… the reality of it. If everyone’s going right, you should be looking left.” (105:00, Dvorak)

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10. Federal Reserve, Media Shifts, and Brooks’ Departure

116:46-126:35

• Dissecting the Fed and Media Confusion:
  • DOJ drops Powell probe, clears way for Kevin Warsh as successor; discussion of power within the Federal Reserve.
  • Brooks (formerly NYT), now at The Atlantic, is mocked for calling the Fed “one of the Crown jewels of our country.”
    • “Crown jewelry? Civil servants? No, bankers!” (121:08, Dvorak)
• Media Careers: Brooks’ ambiguous NYT departure; Capehart migrates to Ms. Now.

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11. Meetups, Housekeeping, and Culture

129:15-157:18

• Producer Support:
  • Value-for-value model explained, listener donorship readouts, and per-episode credits.
• Meetup Reports:
  • Audio report from the Indianapolis No Agenda meetup illustrates the show’s strong, diverse community.
  • Ongoing reminder of the “Maid” program in Canada and the show’s role as glue for the community.
• Michael Jackson’s Biopic (Extended Tangent):
  • Adam relates personal anecdotes from the MTV days, vouching for Jackson’s asexual nature and criticizing continued media fixation on child abuse allegations (“That’s just a lie”).

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• “False flag. You know, and here's the. I have proof. Here's the proof that it was a false flag. Because Fox News Aisha Hasni called in. She called in and they cut her off the minute she was about to blow it.” (01:41, Dvorak)
• “Hate is a part of democracy, lady. What are you talking about?” (16:35, Dvorak)
• “Can we, in this day and age of 48 megapixel phones, possibly get better video?” (21:46, Dvorak)
• “Book of Knowledge, don't let me down.” (24:36, Dvorak, referring to their in-show AI bot)
• “The Book of Knowledge robot. Nothing competes with that.” (52:08, Dvorak)
• On AI tokens: “There’s people at the side of the street with tin cups going, ‘Hey man, I just need some tokens. Give me some tokens, man. I need some tokens real bad.’” (52:44, Dvorak)
• “If it was a person on the other end of that screen, we’d be charging them with murder.” (54:48, Florida prosecutor)
• “I think Charles is here to negotiate the terms of surrender with Trump.” (62:43, Dvorak)
• “All of this stuff is fake and gay. What you’re paying at the pump now. Fake and gay.” (98:49, Dvorak)
• “We’re just podcaster pawns. Oh, speaking of podcasters, they’re all turning on Trump, man.” (102:10, Dvorak)

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TIMESTAMPS OF IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

• False Flag Claims & Shooting Reaction: 00:01–06:47
• Trump Unity Speech: 06:47–08:12
• Shooter’s Manifesto & Tech Critique: 23:29–24:57, 21:46–22:23
• SPLC & Alex Jones: 28:13–46:10 (Stossel exposé at 41:29)
• AI Crime and OpenAI: 54:01–59:50
• UK Relations & Falklands: 61:55–74:34
• Big Pharma Exposé: 75:06–85:40
• Commodities & Oil Market Opaqueness: 92:50–101:59
• Podcast Community Turning on Trump: 102:10–106:43
• Federal Reserve Discussion: 116:46–126:35
• Producer Readouts & Meetups: 129:15–157:18

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SECTION HIGHLIGHTS

KEY INSIGHTS

• The immediate framing of crises as “false flags” speaks to reflexive, conspiratorial media culture.
• The White House Correspondents’ Dinner incident highlights deep, performative divisions between press and White House, and the media’s desire for presidential confrontation.
• Repeated failures in pharmaceutical regulation and reporting requirements are cited as evidence of deep industry capture and public health betrayal.
• The No Agenda community’s self-critical stance: refusing tribal loyalties, urging listeners to expect narrative inversions, and constantly noting institutional (media, financial, scientific) failures.
• Many institutions now carry out little oversight of themselves; the FDA, DOJ, and media all prioritize narrative and donor incentives over public interest.

MEMORABLE HUMOR

• “The Intergalactic Communication System!” (mocking Alex Jones, 28:52)
• “Can we possibly get better video?” (on 120px security cam footage, 21:46)
• “All servers are proxied by Cloudflare. When Cloudflare goes down, the whole world’s… collapsed.” (35:38, Dvorak)
• Self-referential: “We’re just podcaster pawns.”

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SUMMARY

Episode 1863 of No Agenda is dense with irreverent, high-tempo media criticism and skeptical analysis. The hosts relentlessly dissect the rhetorical games of the mainstream press around this week’s major security incident, poke holes in establishment “nonprofits” like SPLC, and highlight the ongoing failure of regulatory bodies within tech, pharma, and finance. They intersperse these core topics with their characteristic banter, notable quotes, and digressions—especially when mocking the overall state of modern information, surveillance technology, and public narrative formation. The show stands out for its insistence on skepticism, refusal of partisanship, and ongoing community engagement.

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For those who haven't listened, this summary provides a robust overview of the key segments and insights in No Agenda #1863, connecting the through-lines between false flag mania, media manipulation, the failures of trust in institutions, and the ever-growing challenge of separating fact from narrative slop.

Transcript

[Adam Curry]

A big wasted money building.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, it's Sunday, April 26, 2026. This is your award winning Kitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1863.

[Alex Jones]

This is no Agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Waving the false flag and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country, right here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from Refinery Row in Northern California, I'm wondering, did anything happen over the week? And I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning. I texted you on both machines last night on your phone and on your so called text system. Did you not receive it?

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

My texts? I know, I must have texted you 20 times.

[Adam Curry]

What did it say?

[John C. Dvorak]

Emergency pod. Emergency pod.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I missed it, sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's time for an emergency. Do you have your heater on?

[Adam Curry]

No, I turned it off as a matter of fact. You want to hear what the difference is?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, I believe you, I believe you. No, I was like, emergency pod, man. Everyone's calling for an emergency pod. Oh man, we live in such an amazing world. Right away, right away, right away was false flags. False flag. Everyone's laughing, it's a false flag.

[Adam Curry]

And so you have the three name

[John C. Dvorak]

character, which is perfect.

[Adam Curry]

Perfect. And a kicker is one of our producers sent this note in. It's the 33rd most popular last name in the United States.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there it is. Proof. Alex Jones. Alex Jones did a car video this morning. Everyone wants me to know. False flag. I looked into documents. No, it's not. There's too many security personnel. Hey, how about it makes no sense? How about it's just crazy talk. False flag. You know, and here's the. I have proof. Here's the proof that it was a false flag. Because Fox News Aisha Hasni called in. She called in and they cut her off the minute she was about to blow it. I want to just quickly tell you,

[Caroline Levitt]

I was sitting next to Caroline Levitt, the press secretary's husband. He was one of our guests. He was seated right next to me and you know, right as the dinner was starting, you know, the national anthem happened.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then he kind of leaned over and said, you know, I watched you on tv.

[Caroline Levitt]

You did a great job. You need to be very safe. And he was very serious when he said that to me.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

And he kind of looked around the

[Caroline Levitt]

room and he said, you know, there are some.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, they cut her off, John. They cut her off. She was about to. About to blow the false flag.

[President Trump]

Cover it.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

Cover it.

[John C. Dvorak]

It looks like we lost Aisha's phone there. And this happens, by the way, especially when you have so many people attempting to utilize. No, CNN wrote an article right away. Right away. Oh, yeah, a lot of false flag calls about this one.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Was the Teacher of the month in December 2024.

[John C. Dvorak]

In context of this whole White House correspondence dinner, this was kind of an amazing moment. And I have a number of short clips to kind of show that. Because you have to understand

[Adam Curry]

the.

[John C. Dvorak]

The White House Correspondents Dinner. I think Trump hasn't attended it, like since when Obama made fun of him. I think.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think that's true.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that was the last one. And so there's been, you know, and he didn't have a comedian. Jimmy Kimmel was railing on that. Oh, he doesn't. He has such thin skin. He had some mentalist. What is a mentalist?

[Adam Curry]

A mentalist is a kind of a foam magician who does mind tricks to make you think he can read your mind.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that could have been funny. That could have actually been pretty funny. I'm sorry that didn't take place.

[Adam Curry]

So before, by the way, I understood that this thing was. Was this bogus. And I was just led astray when they said it was sponsored by Grindr.

[John C. Dvorak]

I haven't heard this, but it wouldn't surprise me considering some of the news corps. So just the prelude to this, here's an example. Because of course, the president hates the press and the press hate the president.

[Adam Curry]

And

[John C. Dvorak]

he had already said, I'm only gonna do my speech, I'm gonna walk away. And here's the view.

[Caroline Levitt]

For the first time as president, Trump will be in attendance as president. He was there. I was there. When the time that Obama humiliated him and he went bananas. Yeah, I was there.

[John C. Dvorak]

He actually didn't go bananas, if I recall.

[Adam Curry]

He didn't go bananas at all. He was very.

[John C. Dvorak]

He just calm. He just sat there, stoic, looking ahead. He took it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[Caroline Levitt]

So here's the situation. A guy that hates the press is at a dinner that honors the press.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right.

[Caroline Levitt]

You can't even make this up anymore. Over 200 journalists signed a letter demanding that Trump gets called out during the dinner. They decided. Here's what they're saying. Watch the clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're really asking the Correspondence association to

[Gay General Patton]

get a spine to stand up there

[John C. Dvorak]

and pledge to fight back against any office holder who would lead any kind of coordinated attack against press freedom of the First Amendment. We have a very fragile, egoed president who thinks he's king in the Oval Office, sitting behind the resolute desk. Now, presidents typically are the guest of honor, but for us to invite this man, this fox into the hen house and for us to sit there and take it. So that was kind of the vibe,

[Adam Curry]

talking about a fragile ego. Well, it seems like the President's got the fragile ego.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. So the best part of the whole evening, which as I understand was in honor of the First Amendment, there was First Amendment signs everywhere and it was about freedom of speech. And you know, people don't realize that this is not what you see clips on television. We've been following this for years. The clips on television are, you know, comedian roasting the President, the President roasting the press. But it's, it's an awards, they've award ceremony for great journalism. They have scholarships, there's all kinds of different things.

[Adam Curry]

It's mostly for scholarships.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, exactly. So when the President then did a press conference right away, which was interesting because everyone's in their tuxedo and their purdy dresses, they got exactly the opposite.

[President Trump]

But in light of this evening's events, I ask that all Americans recommit with their hearts in resolving our difference peacefully. We have to, we have to resolve our differences. I will say you had Republicans, Democrats, Independents, conservatives, liberals and progressives. Those words are interchangeable, perhaps, but maybe they're not. But yet everybody in that room, big crowd, record setting crowd, There was a record setting group of people and there was a tremendous amount of love and coming together. I watched, I watched and I was very, very impressed by that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no. A message of unity from the President. We can't have this. It got even worse. He didn't even want to cancel the night. He wanted to go straight ahead and let's, let's do this event and we're

[President Trump]

going to reschedule, we're going to do it again. We're not going to let anybody take over our society. We're not going to cancel things out because we can't do that. We wanted to say tonight, I will tell you, I fought like hell this day. But they, it was protocol. They said please, sir, because they didn't know a lot of, There was a lot of action going on and they didn't know. Could there be probably a lone shooter. But we'll find out. We'll find out very quickly. They have it very well under control. So I want to thank everybody very much. And Todd Blanche, please.

[John C. Dvorak]

So one of the most contentious relationships the President has is with Kaitlan Collins of cnn and she was going to receive an award. And the ladies of View were already all psyched up and hyped up about it.

[Caroline Levitt]

My colleague and Anna's colleague, Kaitlan Collins, is receiving an award for her coverage of this. We all have seen President Trump insult her, criticize her, and she stands there stoically and keeps asking questions that we all want the answers to. So the night should be and is about the journalists, regardless of who headlines it, regardless of the speech from the president. And I anticipate. Listen, he's. Apparently, it's reported the president's going to go give his remarks and then leave so they can all celebrate once he leaves if they want to. The White House Correspondents association should not accept that. If he is going to show up, he should sit there while Kaitlan Collins gets her award.

[John C. Dvorak]

See, the ladies of the View don't understand how it works. They don't understand the game. I think Kaitlan Collins understands the game because when she asks a question, oh, the president's very cordial towards her.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

Do you have any political motivations from this?

[President Trump]

Well, you never know. Now, we'll be able to tell you that maybe by tomorrow or the next day, you know, he's in custody and they're asking him a lot of questions. I guess they're going over, Todd, and they're. They're already at his apartment. He lives in California.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, sir.

[President Trump]

And they'll be. They're over there, so they'll be able to tell you. Thank you, Caitlin.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you, Caitlin. Very nice. Not mean or anything, you know, even the chairman. Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman did a great job.

[President Trump]

Madam Chairman, I just want to say you did a fantastic job. What a beautiful evening. And we're going to reschedule.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, clap, clap, clap. Oh, golf claps. Very nice.

[President Trump]

It's very tough for her to ask a killer question. Right. But you have done a fantastic job. Please.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you, Mr. President.

[Military Analyst]

I appreciate it.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

As you mentioned, it all happened so

[John C. Dvorak]

quickly, and I wonder especially because unfortunately,

[Reporter/News Anchor]

you have experience with these sorts of threats.

[John C. Dvorak]

In that moment when you realize there was a threat and so service agents

[Reporter/News Anchor]

were telling us to get down. Can you describe what was going through

[John C. Dvorak]

your mind, how you were feeling in that moment? This is amazing question, because if you go to journalism school, the first thing they tell you is you never want to. Your first question should not be what was going through your mind. You know, that's like. It's like the lamest question. So the best question of the night goes to Peter Doocy.

[Gay General Patton]

Respectfully, why do you think this keeps happening to you?

[President Trump]

Well, you know, I've studied assassinations And I must tell you, the most impactful people, the people that do the most. You take a look at the people. Abraham Lincoln. I mean, you go through the people that have gone through this where they got them, but the people that do the most, the people that make the biggest impact, they're the ones that they go after. They don't go after the ones that don't do much because they like it that way. And when you look at the people that have, either whether it was an attempt or a successful attempt, they're very impactful people. Just take a look at the names here, the big names. And I hate to say I'm honored by that, but I've done a lot. We've done a lot. We have. We've taken this country and we were a laughingstock for years. And now with the hottest country anywhere in the world, we've changed this country. And there are a lot of people that are not happy about that. So I think that's the answer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Peter, you rightly said Gerald Ford. Well, almost. Almost everyone who has been assassinated or attempted assassination has been impactful. Almost. Almost everybody. And luckily, the President leaves the press with a little bit of bait for the morning shows attributes of what we're

[President Trump]

planning at the White House. It's actually a larger room and it's much more secure. It's got. It's drone proof, it's bulletproof glass. We need the ballroom. That's why Secret Service, that's why the

[John C. Dvorak]

military are demanding it.

[President Trump]

They've wanted the ballroom for 150 years for lots of different reasons, but today is a little bit different because today we need levels of security that probably nobody's ever seen before.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I tried to get the clip this morning because I saw it, but I didn't record it of, you know, Ms. Now, I guess the black guy with the frozen. Isn't he the president of the White House Correspondents association or the Congress?

[Adam Curry]

I actually don't know who is right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think he is. And he was like, well, just because you want it in the ballroom doesn't mean we'll do it there. Oh, you want to make a bet? You want to make a bet that you'll all be dressed up in your tuxedos and your nightgowns, like, oh, yeah, we're going into the. Into the big ballroom. Of course you will.

[Adam Curry]

So, yeah, that's where you do it. You want to do into something fancy, not, you know, hotels. You know, hotel. One of those hotel ballrooms.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, exactly.

[Adam Curry]

Which is within walls that they Slide, you know, sliding walls.

[John C. Dvorak]

So then from the, from the early morning sweep of the news, just a couple clips here. John Carl from ABC personalizes this. John, your phone rang early this morning. Yeah, my phone rang shortly after 7:00am My landline, George. Actually a number that few people call, and it was President Trump calling. He washe said at first he was calling to see if I was okay with what happened last night. Are you okay? And then he reiterated many of the things he said in his press conference last night, emphasizing the unity that he felt in that moment, that he felt at the dinner before the shooting and certainly after with the people who reached out to him. And he said, absolutely, and he was quite firm about this, that dinner must be rescheduled. It must be rescheduled. He knows that I was a former president of the White House Correspondents association and worked with him on a dinner that never actually happened back during COVID And he was saying, we've got to get this dinner back on. It has to happen. I think this was an interesting turn of vibe regarding the President and the press corps. He turned it into a very positive thing. Although Margaret Brennan, of course, had to be the first one to make the pivot.

[Caroline Levitt]

A night to celebrate the First Amendment abruptly ended by a gunman permitted by the Second Amendment to own those weapons. Gun violence is not new in America, but the threat of violence is now a cost of public life. It permeates our politics. Last month, Supreme Court Justice Roberts publicly appealed for personal attacks on Judges to stop U.S. marshals report there were five threats last year and nearly 15,000 against lawmakers, staff and their families, according to U.S. capitol Police. Multiple cabinet members.

[Adam Curry]

So threat. It's got something to do with the Second Amendment.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're trying to bring logic into her monologue.

[Adam Curry]

That's, that's a mistake saying she's talking about threats. She's not talking about gun violence. No, but she's talking about gun violence at the base. Her basic thesis. So, so she. This is a very poor argument.

[John C. Dvorak]

The correct. Yes, it is.

[Caroline Levitt]

Lawmakers, staff and their families. According to U.S. capitol Police, multiple Trump cabinet members now live on military bases for their own protection.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I'd never heard this. Who lives on a military base for their protection?

[Adam Curry]

Well, this needs to be looked into.

[Caroline Levitt]

No such fortress. For the federal and state officials who face a growing number of threats in communities across the country. There's a marked increase in harassment and threats of physical violence to journalists in the US from the very public they are working to inform. As the nation wonders how to inform the next gunman out. Let's also reflect on how we let this hate in the. How we stop it from corroding our democracy and grasp onto our civility before we lose it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hate is a part of democracy, lady. What are you talking about? That's how it works. Oh, we can't hate. Well, start with yourself.

[Adam Curry]

Can't hate.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can't hate. And then the final one is about this alleged shooter.

[Caroline Levitt]

So the alleged shooter, as we just said, had multiple weapons in his possession here in the District of Columbia. Open carry is not permitted in. You just said he traveled from California across the country by train. At this point, are you thinking at the federal level of changing security protocols in any way to, for example, match on trains, what you are expected to go through when you fly, where you do have to declare a weapon.

[John C. Dvorak]

When you remember Obama did that. Remember they had TSA at the trains.

[Adam Curry]

I thought they were. I thought they had. Obama was bragging about they weren't doing TSA on the trains.

[John C. Dvorak]

But then. No, he was saying that you don't have to take your shoe, take your shoes off. But then you did. That was the whole.

[Adam Curry]

I don't remember that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, that was the whole joke of it. They had these teams on the platforms after Obama had said over and over about high speed rail, you don't have to take your shoes off.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I should be right. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So now they're trying to bring that back. Oh, yeah, Trains, trains dangerous.

[Caroline Levitt]

Where you do have to declare a weapon when you cross state lines. How did he travel by train without any challenge and arrive here in the nation's capital?

[Adam Curry]

You've gone from state to state, haven't you?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, in the car.

[Adam Curry]

Where would you declare this weapon? Well, Margaret, do they have a spot there? I mean, they do actually. Going into California, you do have to declare vegetables you bring across the state line. But would you say, hey, would you got. What do you got with. You got a palm tree and a 30 out six. What? Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, of course not. I mean, when maybe you stop at those truck weighing stations. I'm always curious about most.

[Adam Curry]

Get out of here, your car out

[Caroline Levitt]

any challenge and arrive here in the nation's capital.

[Jonathan Capehart]

And look, this isn't about, in my mind changing the law or making the laws more restrictive around possession of firearms. It appears he purchased these firearms the past couple of years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Years.

[Jonathan Capehart]

We don't know how those firearms ended up in his possession in dc. We can make some assumptions based upon what I just said.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't know nothing.

[Jonathan Capehart]

But I don't think the narrative here is about changing laws or changing making our laws more restrictive. This is about law enforcement who are doing their jobs and a suspect who tried to do something and failed miserably.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. All right. And there's your emergency pod. Everybody failed miserably.

[Adam Curry]

I have the guys. There was a manifesto that appeared on LinkedIn.

[John C. Dvorak]

On LinkedIn. This is the new manifesto posting spot.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it seemed to be where somebody posted it. And he goes on about using buckshot and having different targets and who's not target?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, no, his brother. I think his. Hold on. I think I have it here.

[Dr. Sterz]

His.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, here we go. Cbs.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

Multiple sources tell CBS News that the gunman told law enforcement he was targeting Trump administration officials. Sources now say that Allen's brother had also alerted local police of alleged alarming writings that he shared with the family prior to the incident.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think that's what this CCTV video reveals.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

The moment the 31 year old suspect sprinted past a security checkpoint, charging toward the ballroom where President Trump cabinet officials and roughly 2500 guests were assembled.

[John C. Dvorak]

It is clear, based upon what we know so far, that this individual was intent on doing as much harm and as much damage. Did you see Judge janine in her 90? She was wearing a very sheer dress to say cut.

[Adam Curry]

I didn't notice.

[John C. Dvorak]

Almost in.

[Adam Curry]

I did see her, but it was a long shot.

[John C. Dvorak]

Almost age in.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

A teacher from Southern California opened fire at a uniformed division officer of the U.S. secret Service before agents tackled him to the ground, handcuffing him.

He was armed with a shotgun, a

[John C. Dvorak]

handgun and multiple knives. As he ran through that checkpoint, members of law enforcement from the United States Secret Service intercepted that individual. I'm still a little skeptical about the Secret Service agent being shot. I'm thinking that was crossfire or someone else accidentally shot him. I don't know if this guy even got a shot.

[Adam Curry]

I saw that video. Looked like he shot him to me. And he says in his note that he expects the Secret Service guys. He doesn't want to kill them, and he expects him to be wearing bulletproof armor. So then he shot him right in the armor.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, okay. So you saw that on the video?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it looked pretty clear. I mean, I could be wrong, but it was so fast because the guy's running like a son of a bitch. He starts running and the guy comes, you know, tries to, moves toward him and he shoots him.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can we, in this day and age of 48 megapixel phones, tell me about it. Can we possibly get better video?

[Adam Curry]

I mean, 120 by 120 is not good enough.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was like cuc me video ho callback. Seriously, it's ridiculous. It's like, you don't have to. It doesn't have to be black and white and 10 frames a second because of disk space anymore.

[Adam Curry]

Come on, You're. You're. That's an absolute yes that they don't like. They have cameras on phones that are little bitty things that have better imagery than that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, I've got. I hung up three cameras here at the house at my wife's insistence. And it's great, you know, and like, of course, you never catch anything. Oh, there's the UPS guy, you know, and you get an alert. You can go, oh, look, I can see the UPS guy. It follows him. It tracks him. None of this stationary bullcrap. So how can I have a better system at home than the system in the Hilton Hotel that is meant to provide evidence for calamity? Yeah,

[Adam Curry]

these cameras are expensive.

[John C. Dvorak]

It just doesn't make any sense.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, in the olden days, yeah, maybe you had to pay a couple hundred bucks for. For a little camera, for a security system. Now they're like, you know, the Logitech Webcam has got HD and it's like, you know, 40 bucks. I mean, give me a break. I'm going to read from the note here that this guy said, because I thought this was. Because they had Jamie Raskin on one of the shows this morning, and it was Dana Bash says to him, so don't you think the rhetoric maybe has a little bit to do with this? I mean, Raskin goes, what? What do you mean? There's no way. And then he says, well, people have been saying, you know, they say all this stuff. He says, I don't know. I like Trump. He's a good guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, Raskin said that basically. Oh, that's hilarious.

[Adam Curry]

So this guy writes this because he's going on and hello, everybody, is the way he starts it off. This is the part that got me. He says, I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile rapist to. And traitor to. To. To coat my hands with his crimes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who said this?

[Adam Curry]

The guy, the shooter.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, this is. Note in his note. Oh. Oh, wow.

[Adam Curry]

So you mean he was triggered by, you know, it was, you know, the propaganda you have out there. And he's in California, lives in Torrance, you know, is loaded with this sort of thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

At the end of the notices, I would still go through, he talks about expected to be shot.

[John C. Dvorak]

What does it mean? Coat My hands.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know what coat his hands means either.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can we ask the Book of Knowledge? Let me ask the Book of Knowledge. Book of Knowledge. What does coat my hands mean as a phrase? Book of knowledge. Don't let me down. Book of knowledge. Now it says, quote my hands. Forget about it.

[Book of Knowledge]

According to the Book of Knowledge, quote

[John C. Dvorak]

my hands refers to the gesture. Quote my hands. All right, good job. Book of knowledge. Back in your. Back in your hovel. Sorry. So continue.

[Adam Curry]

Well, anyway, at the very end, he says, I would still go on. I would still go through most everyone here to get to the targets if I were absolutely. If it was absolutely necessary on the basis that most people chose to attend a speech by a pedophile, rapist and traitor. There you go with the same three words in the same order. And are there complete and are thus complicit. But I really hope it doesn't come to that. Well, that's one more thing I'll just mention from this note. He says administration. I find this peculiar. He said. He tells us who the targets are. He says administration officials, not including Mr. Patel, they are targets prioritized from the highest ranking to the lowest.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's interesting.

[Adam Curry]

What does that mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

Patel is like enemy number two on the list these days. Huh? That is. That's a clue about this guy one way or the other, don't you think?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it is.

[Adam Curry]

Hmm. Hmm. So anyway, this whole thing is. You know what it is? You get any Alex Jones stuff? Because I have some. I actually have some Alex Jones clips that are different. They're about the splc.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I actually, I've been looking for. I saw. Saw them come in. I haven't. Obviously haven't looked at. I haven't looked at you and listened to your clips. But before you do the splc, I have a boots on the ground from Dame Rhonda about the splc, which was interesting.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

She says the SPLC represented the plaintiff, Ricky Wyatt against the Alabama Department of Mental Health. Originated when First Lady Lurleen Wallace visited Bryce Hospital in Tuscaloosa and was appalled at the conditions. What happened? This is a case that lasted many years. Judge Thompson issued a mandate. If the state was going to run a mental health system, certain standards had to be met and funded. If the state could not afford the standards, it would not have a mental health system. The result is that the standards were so high and therefore so costly that Alabama opted out of providing mental health care. And the ripple effect was that most every other state in the nation over time relied on that case from Alabama to justify their decision not to fund mental health care in this.

[Adam Curry]

Wow, that's a good one.

[John C. Dvorak]

So Dame Rhonda works or worked in a law office in Alabama. One of the attorneys who represented Alabama in the final years of that litigation is her boss. He's 88 years old, still comes into the office daily in his opinion. Because it was the SPLC that argued that. He says the SPLC is responsible for getting rid of mental health facilities in America. And he still blames them for that.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he's probably right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. It's so typical.

[Adam Curry]

Anyway, unintended consequences.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So Jones is talking about, you know, who's running the world,

[John C. Dvorak]

New World Order,

[Adam Curry]

trying to kill us all. And the problem is he's. He's kind of wandering. I mean, it's like he's not as focused as he should be. I got three clips, but I thought they were interesting because I wanted to ask you if you could decode what he's actually saying here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course I can do that.

[Adam Curry]

Let me do that for you.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, clip one.

[Alex Jones]

The ADL and Southern Property Law center and the Democrats and the globalists of the same system run all over the Western world. What have you believe is secretly running everything Reality. It's a bunch of globalist mad scientists creating a giant AI cyborg mass neural network known as the Intergalactic Communication System. Not just saying that. Look that up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, oh, he forgot to add xrp.

[Adam Curry]

So I looked it up.

[John C. Dvorak]

You read their documents. What'd you find?

[Adam Curry]

What is he talking about? That was kind of a joke that was done in the 60s by a scientist who's largely responsible for starting or getting ARPANET going and getting the Internet started back in the 60s. And he made this comment about the intergalactic Blah, blah, blah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which scientist was that?

[Adam Curry]

Linklater. Link Ladder is very famous guy. You can look it up, but you can look it up. The intergalactic. He had to play it again so I can get it clear. But control intergalactic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me hear it again. Hold on a second.

[Alex Jones]

Running everything Reality. It's a bunch of globalist mad scientists creating a giant AI cyborg mass neural network known as the Intergalactic Communication System.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not just intergalactic communication system.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you can ask the Wikipedia.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here we go. Here we go. Tell me about the Intergalactic Communication System. Well, this should be interesting. You know, the Book of Knowledge doesn't look at Wikipedia. It has its own sources.

[Book of Knowledge]

According to the Book of Knowledge, the term intergalactic communication system may refer to either the historical concept or modern theoretical.

[John C. Dvorak]

Theoretical approaches. J.C.R.

[Book of Knowledge]

licklider at ARPA used Intergalactic Computer Network in the 1960s to describe his vision of a networked computing system that would

[John C. Dvorak]

eventually become the Internet. For actual intergalactic communication, neutrinos are proposed as optimal due to their penetrating nature, unlike electric. Okay, I get it.

[Adam Curry]

Okay,

[John C. Dvorak]

well that.

[Adam Curry]

Look it up.

[John C. Dvorak]

He says, well, that's what the. That's what the Internet originally was before it all consolidated and was all run by Cloudflare

[Adam Curry]

gatekeepers. The gatekeepers for AT&T.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it was a distributed network, everyone.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, well, yes, we might as well mention that it was designed, not an intergalactic bull crap, but it was designed to be a communication system that could withstand a nuclear attack.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. And the whole idea was.

[Adam Curry]

And it went from college to college to college, it was mostly through the universities.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. And the whole concept of TCP IP was that traffic would route around an outage. At one point I had my own C class network. I had an actual like a big piece of. At the time, a big piece of the Internet. And then the problems came in with peering because that was always the idea of the. The philosophy of it was, well, if traffic has to route around something and I have to route traffic from you, then that's okay because you'll route traffic for me. And it's called the peering system. And I believe it was Enron that screwed that all up by saying, hey, this is worth money, this peering system and you should be charging. And then as more and more networks got rolled up, like MFS and AT&T and Verizon and more, it became more and more centralized. Now. Yeah, now it's just basically.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm not sure anyone was. I didn't hear that.

[John C. Dvorak]

But what, what.

[Adam Curry]

But I know that Enron had anything to do with it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, Enron was doing bandwidth trading with peering. I know this.

[Adam Curry]

What was Enron Power company involved with any of this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Because they were a scam. I'll tell you the story.

[Adam Curry]

No, I know they were.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me tell you the story. So we had think new ideas, public company. We had Bankers Trust, another fine outfit who had a huge derivatives issue at some point. But anyway, they were our client and we were building online network trading desks for them, which is really no more than a web interface to. What was the Adobe. Adobe had some kind of. I forget what it's called. Not. They had some kind of component, some kind of desktop like Microsoft meeting point or something. At the time I forget what it's called. And so our system would connect to that and would pick up Excel spreadsheets and turn them into web pages. And maybe a year or so after One of the VPs had left and went to Enron, and he's in that movie in the. Was it the smartest guys in the room? I don't think he went to jail. He probably went to Columbia and he came in and said, hey, listen, he was all hyped up and, you know, drinking his Diet Coke and hyped up. And listen, I need you guys to build a trading desk because we're going to do a bandwidth trading. And listen, it doesn't actually have to do anything. It just has to look impressive. We just want to have lots of monitors that look like it's doing something with bandwidth trading. We passed on the opportunity, but that's what they were doing. It was fictitious. It was as much bull crap as their energy trading was.

[Adam Curry]

Mosaic.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's. Thank you. Mosaic. Was it Mosaic? No, no, that wasn't Mosaic.

[Adam Curry]

No. Mosaic.

[Alex Jones]

No.

[Adam Curry]

It was, yes, the Enron Broadband scandal Forgotten Half Enron scam. So the thing was, is that the original concept, which is this routing all over the place, you know, Then once it started becoming commercialized, when somebody decided, let's do an Internet, let the public in on it, they demanded better, you know. You know, they didn't want this. These things. You remember, they used to be some programs you could. They used to. I can't remember the name of them, but they would. Their tracers. And you'd hit. Trace the connection. It would go from here to there to here to there, trace route, trace route, trace route. And it would show a million things,

[John C. Dvorak]

how many hops you got?

[Adam Curry]

And then AT and T and all the big boys decided, hey, you know, we can make some money doing this. They said, why we. What? Why bother? Why don't we just. You hooked to me directly? And pretty soon there was like two backbones and all the major hubs like May East, May west and all the rest of them were kind of left in the dust.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So it's not anything like it was designed to be. I mean, if it wasn't.

[John C. Dvorak]

And now. And now literally all servers are proxied by Cloudflare. So when Cloudflare goes down, the whole

[Adam Curry]

world got in the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

The whole world's collapsed. Texas. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Bomb the offices in San Francisco and

[John C. Dvorak]

we're ready to go anyway, so. Yes. Are we on the clip too?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Now. Now it becomes. It becomes a little loony planning to

[Alex Jones]

depopulate almost all of us. They tell the mid level people the world they're going to kill 90%, but really they plan to kill 99%. Call it Nazi, whatever you want. The Nazis had their own competing plan. They talked about it, Nuremberg, they said, Margaret Sanger, the British Eugenics Society. We're just following that plan. That's what's at the top of this. And it's so big that my dad was playing too. As I've told you many times in high school, going to UT because he was top of his class, some of the top test scores in the state. He's winning all the science, you know, fairs and stuff. At 14, they recruit him. Oh, this is a feeder to NASA. Eisenhower's whiz kid program.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's really conflating a lot of different things here.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, his timeline goes off a little bit too. He's talking about his dad now who became a dentist. I looked him up and he was born in 1950. The timeline doesn't work unless the dad was born in 1942, which is possible because he's saying that he was 14 when Eisenhower created the whiz. There was a moment in, during the 50s, once Sputnik was launched, Eisenhower put the, you know, put the hammer down and said, we're turning all our kids into scientists. And that was in 57, not 56. And so the timeline doesn't match. He's kind of. Unless the dad was born in 42.

[John C. Dvorak]

The way I said, the SPLC didn't come around until 67.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he's kind of gone off already off the rails. And he's talking about something about depopulation.

[Alex Jones]

He started, it was Kennedy and my dad started this and it wasn't NASA folks. And a couple years into it, he gets called in by the head of the body department who was the head of Plan two. It was Jewish. Professor Spear didn't tell me this till he saw in game right before it came out in my office with my mother. My mother looked at my dad and said, David, this can't be true. And he started talking for about 20 minutes. He said, you know, Spear, because he met her at ut. You know, he stepped dinner over his house. Yeah, bonding for me. Yeah, we stepped in with him. Yeah. Well, he called me in and said of the Plan two people, you have, you're the best and you've been selected. And this is when he was about 17. He didn't meet her till about a year later when she got There. And you know, Hitler was a eugenicist and we don't support targeting just one group, but it is, it is eugenics. And then that, that's what this is. And we're, we're going to set up a world government and we're going to depopulate. And my dad said, well, I'll still be friends with you, but I really don't want to be in this program.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, eugenics. Is he confused with Planned Parenthood somehow that he's calling about? I don't understand.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, he's just rambling. And here we go, the third clip, which is even more confusing.

[Alex Jones]

And they said, well, you know, we got another program you know, want you to be part of. And that was even worse. He said he wouldn't say what that was. And then he said, I'm just gonna go to Baylor Medical and get a dental degree and I'm out of this. And he never told me the rest of it. But they didn't basically let him get out of it quite yet. Let's just leave it at that. That's how real I know this whole is. So at the top, there's not a Christian adventurers club of Nazis meeting. Okay. There's people that put poison shots in the public. And I got news on this coming up that's beyond huge. We just got numb to it though. Congressional hearings where they have the CDC head documents that, oh, it's killed masses of people, including children. It doesn't work. It destroys immune systems. So let's, let's accelerate it. I have the congressional hearings. We'll play clips. Oh, and the young people are dying. And when they cut them open, their entire organs are filled with spike protein, including no sperm. But spike protein, that's grown in the testicles. That's where it goes. The ovaries, testicles. So that when you're having sex with a woman, you've had it, you're now injecting her with this. That goes into her ovaries and sterilizes you. That's one of its main functions. Nanotech self replicating HIV spike protein. That is a fact.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Okay, I'm down with all that, but what does that have to do with splc? This is what I don't understand. That's, that's the. And by the way, you know, the weave dipshit in the, in the troll room. We're not conspiracy deniers. We're denying that Alex Jones has any sanity about him right now. This has nothing to do with splc. SPLC was A dynamite idea, a great marketing idea. And it really started back when. What was the slsp? There was some other. There was some other anti KKK group. And this was it. Morris Dees, I think. And Morris.

[Adam Curry]

Morris Dees was the head of the splc.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he's. So he started. SPLC is like, oh, this is a great gambit. We're gonna. We're gonna do this. And people actually thinking they were donating to this other group, and so they kind of grew that way. And it was. Sorry.

[Adam Curry]

It was pretty creative, I thought it was. There's a note of genius about the whole thing. I want to play one more thing, which is Stossel's report, which was in the early 2000s on the SPLC, when he was still working for ABC. John Stossel had a show. He was, you know, the. It was good.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was good. And I don't even know why.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he's still good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why did he leave abc? Because he does youtubes of his stuff now, doesn't he?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, he does. It's pretty much like his old show. But I don't know why they got rid of him. They. I. I think it was because he turned a little too right wing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. But, yeah, it was during the woke period. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And that was, you know, abc.

[John C. Dvorak]

Got to get rid of him. Yeah, got to get rid of him.

[Adam Curry]

So this is from his old show.

[John Stossel]

There are dangerous hate groups in America. Who will warn us about them? The media have it answered.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Southern Poverty Law Center.

[Alex Jones]

The Southern Poverty Law Center.

[John Stossel]

The Southern Poverty Law center, based in that building in Alabama, calls itself the premier group monitoring hate groups. Looking at their map of such groups, you'd think America was consumed by hate. I once believed in the center's mission. Well meaning people still do. Apple just gave them a million dollars. But what donors don't know is that today the center smears people who don't deserve to be smeared.

[Caroline Levitt]

The presence of radical Islam.

[John Stossel]

This woman grew up in Somalia, suffered female genital mutilation. So now she speaks out against radical Islam. For that, the center put her on its list.

[Interviewer]

Multiculturalism failed these communities.

[John Stossel]

This man was once an Islamic extremist, but then he decided radical Islam was wrong. And now he criticizes the radicals. The center labels him an anti Muslim extremist, too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Join the fight against hate and bigotry. Visit splcenter.org I do think that we have a problem with hate in this country. We put about 10 of these major hate groups out of business.

[John Stossel]

The center's leaders, Richard Cohen and Morris Dees would not talk to me. So commentator Nomiki Kant stepped up to defend them.

[Adam Curry]

They have a history, a long history

[Reporter/News Anchor]

of fighting against extremists like the kkk.

[John Stossel]

Years ago, Harper's magazine reported that the center is the wealthiest civil rights group in America, one that spent most of its time and money on a fundraising campaign. Now, Morris Dees did once promise to stop fundraising once his endowment hit $55 million. But when he reached 55 million, he changed that to 100 million, saying that would allow them to cease costly fundraising. But when they reached 100 million, they didn't stop.

[John C. Dvorak]

I guess their main claim is they bankrupted the KKK and that was it. That was the only thing people can ever say that they did because that's all they did after that. It was, as you, I think, pointed out in the last show, it was like the NAN from Sharpton. You know, it's like, we're going to put you on this list until you donate and we'll take you off the list.

[Adam Curry]

And so they, I think that at the time he did this report, it was the 350 million as the endowment. I think it's a billion now, isn't it? A billion?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, it's 900 million.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's almost a billion.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Play on. Today they have an endowment that now

[President Trump]

is over $320 million, much of which

[John C. Dvorak]

is in offshore accounts, Caymans and places like that. How do you know? Oh, we look at their 990s and

[John Stossel]

it says Cayman Islands. Yeah, they pay some of their people more than 400 thou a year.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

Well, it, you know, it's 2017. It costs a lot of money to

[Caroline Levitt]

exist in this world.

[John Stossel]

The Southern Poverty Law center now lists people like Ben Carson, Laura Ingram and Jeannie Pirro as extremists, but it doesn't list Antifa, the hate group that beats up people on the right. The center's become a hate group itself. It's now a left wing money grabbing slander machine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nice Stossel. Way to go. Yeah, well, and we've been saying this for at least 15 years.

[Adam Curry]

If you know what, everybody's, everybody's been spiking the ball on this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but we, but we had proof.

[Adam Curry]

Well, so did. I mean, Alex Jones did the same thing, but there was one guy, and I can't remember his name, but he had, he picked up on this in the 90s. This Stossel report was from 2017.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, right at the get go, he saw it coming down Broadway. You know, So, I mean, it's obvious. And then meanwhile, you have guys like Chris Cuomo coming up coming on and defending them. No, I don't have a clip, but.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I have an Ms. Now clip. And during this segment. I didn't clip it. They had SPLC donation ads running during this segment. The indictment is nakedly political. And it's naked. I haven't heard nakedly in a long time. Let's hear that again. The indictment is nakedly political.

[Jonathan Capehart]

It's the Justice Department turning on itself.

[John C. Dvorak]

For years, federal law enforcement worked with

[Jonathan Capehart]

the Southern Poverty Law center to ferret out hate groups and domestic terrorist groups. And recently, the Justice Department canceled its

[John C. Dvorak]

relationship with the Southern Poverty Law Center. So the government has been intimately involved in what the Southern Poverty Law center has done, which has been an important

[Jonathan Capehart]

public service, and that is to ferret out these hate groups, these domestic terrorist

[John C. Dvorak]

groups, these anti Semitic groups. And this Justice Department once again is furthering this pattern and practice of an assault on civil rights through frivolous, politically motivated indictments. Think of Comey. Think of the Attorney General in New York. Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not sure how that has anything to do with it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they're grasping at straws. I think these guys are toast.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, yes. Did you see that? Gay General Patton has now said that they're going to change the rules about the Form 990. I've been a Form 990 reader from day one on.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, you're the Form 990 guy on the show. This is your thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love the form 990s, but there's never a disclosure of who gave the money. And now they're going to change those rules that nonprofits have to list. And there may be a level that they have to put in there. I'm not sure how they're going to do it because it will be quite burdensome.

[Adam Curry]

Some, like, for every $5. Right?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, like Ronald McDonald House Charities, they'd have to have pages and pages of supplemental data, maybe. And a lot of people, individuals, give money and don't necessarily want to be known, but that may no longer be possible. But they're definitely going to say, hey, you've got to disclose where your money's coming from. So. And that's how I always question, did Apple put out a press release that they were donating a million dollars to the splc? Probably did. We're good people. We hate Nazis, We're Apple, something like that.

[Adam Curry]

So I'm still, you know, irked about the. I mean, you know, Tim Cook Is leaving.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And they're bringing a new guy. And this is the follows the old pattern where Steve Jobs gave the company over to Scully. Scully. Even though people don't remember this John Scully racked it up. I think he quadrupled or more the net sales and over what Jobs was able to do. And then when he was pushed out, it was a disaster. One loser after another came in. I see kind of, I could be wrong, maybe I'm an optimist, but I see the same thing happening again.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, see I. Because. Well, first of all there's two problems. We had Steve Jobs, Tim Cook, now we have John. But the guy has two syllables in his last name. What is his last name? I don't know exactly two syllables. Can't remember the guy's name. So that's already a minus point. But he's the hardware guy. And the way I see AI going running locally on local machines by happenstance or maybe by design, the Apple Universal memory on their Apple.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no, you're more optimistic about this sound.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me finish the argument. No one's heard this.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm going to just say in advance that I'm not going to argue against you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, what you could do is let me finish and then not argue and that would achieve the same thing without the interruption.

[Adam Curry]

It would be less dramatic.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is correct. The Apple like the Mac Mini has become the darling machine for Open Claw. Not that it really does that well and not that people are running local models, but like the Mac studio with, you know, loaded up to the to the gills with ram, people are running local AI models quite successfully on that. The Apple chip and the iPhone also has some capabilities. I think they're way ahead of the game where AMD is doing this with their chips now was it the Ryzen chip? I think so. So I think the local inference of AI may be a winner for Apple long term in particular because they didn't do what everyone else has done is cram their phones full of AI garbage. I mean, so I have this Samsung and you know, I just want a phone. It doesn't have to do much, you know, I really don't do much with it. I have my Grapheneos phone for other things but then all of a sudden it pops up. Hi, I'm Bixby. Do you want me to listen to you for your every command without you touching the phone like no, I don't. Oh, my phone literally just lit up when I said that. I said no, I don't want that installed.

[Adam Curry]

Just lit up.

[John C. Dvorak]

It keeps popping up. Hi, I'm Bixby. Bixby is here to help you.

[Adam Curry]

Bixby.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bixby is their. Siri is there. Whatever. Bixby, that's as.

[Adam Curry]

Bixby.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's as gay as Ask Jeeves Bixby. Hello, I'm Bixby. I should install it just to hear how lame it is, you know, so that's.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you should. Maybe you could compete with the Book of Knowledge robot.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nothing can compete with the Book of Knowledge robot. Nothing competes with that. So. So I have a feeling Apple could come out a huge winner. But that all really depends on what kind of snazzy stuff they can. They can. I mean, for their. For their desktops, maybe. I don't think they're. I don't know about the phones or anything. Like, I don't know if any of the. If anyone cares about this stuff at all. I'll tell you, this Anthropic has. Has yanked the rug. What used to be your $20 a month. Well, now you're really paying $100 a month. If you want to get the same amount of time and tokens and uses.

[Adam Curry]

Really?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. And you're $100 a month. Now you got to pay $200 a month. There's people at the side of the street with tin cups going, hey man, I just need some tokens. Give me some tokens, man. I need some tokens real bad. The way Anthropic does Claude code. So you have a monthly, a weekly usage for your 2100 or $200 a month account. But then they have per day, you can only do so many hours consecutively and then it has to reset and you have to wait. And that can be like a three or four hour wait before you're allowed to use it again.

[Adam Curry]

Makes you take a break.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, of course, then they give you the extra usage that you can buy credits for, which goes at about $2 every 30 seconds. You know, they're giving away this is the IPO on the way.

[Adam Curry]

I think that trying to balance the books and invest in the ipo.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. If you have a hundred dollar account, you're probably getting $2,000 worth of credits. This is a problem. I don't know if they're going to fix it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's see how the IPO does. They only have one AI story. Not. You brought up AI.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. You got an AI story.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, the one about the Florida State shooting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there's a couple. I actually have a story about this is this OpenAI story. Is that what this is?

[Adam Curry]

It says AI Florida.

[John C. Dvorak]

The state of Florida is opening a criminal investigation into OpenAI because a suspect allegedly used its chatbot to help plan

[Caroline Levitt]

a mass school shooting. Two people died and five were wounded

[John C. Dvorak]

on the Florida State University campus last year. From WFSU in Tallahassee, Tristan Wood reports.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

Florida Attorney General James Uthmeyer says an initial review of chat log shows that gunman Phoenix Eichner consulted Chat GBT for advice over 200 times.

[OpenAI Spokesperson]

My prosecutors have looked at this and

[Interviewer]

they've told me if it was a

[OpenAI Spokesperson]

person on the other end of that

[Reporter/News Anchor]

screen, we would be charging them with murder, he says. The logs show Eichner asking what type of gun to use, what ammo went with it, what time to go to campus to encounter the most people and more.

[OpenAI Spokesperson]

Now of course Chad GPT is not a person, but that does not absolve our office, my prosecution team of our duty to investigate whether or not there is criminal culpability here for a Corporation.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

An OpenAI spokesperson called the FSU shooting a tragedy, but says the company is not responsible. The company says ChatGPT gave the kind of factual responses to questions that could be found anywhere on the Internet. During the press conference, Uthmyra acknowledged it is unclear if his team would be able to identify anyone to criminally charge.

[OpenAI Spokesperson]

We're at the beginning, so I don't know what the intentions of design were, I don't know what people knew and

[John C. Dvorak]

at what time, but I hope that

[OpenAI Spokesperson]

we are able to get those answers.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

OpenAI maintains they voluntarily gave the information about the shooter's chat logs to law enforcement and will continue to cooperate with authorities. While this is the first criminal probe from a state attorney general, the AI company has been the target of several recent civil lawsuits, including one centered on its involvement in a suicide case.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, this, this is an interesting. Listen, it's a set of cases. What preceded the Florida FSU shooting is the one in Canada.

[Caroline Levitt]

We begin with breaking news breaking OpenAI CEO Sam Altman has issued an apology to the community of Tumblr Ridge after failing to alert alert police about the shooters concerning use of ChatGPT. Altman wrote, I am deeply sorry that we did not alert law enforcement to the account that was banned in June. In February, an 18 year old shooter opened fire at Tumblr Ridge secondary school, killing eight people, including six school children before taking her own life. OpenAI, the tech company behind ChatGPT, was critical criticized after it was revealed the shooter's account was flagged for violating policies. But authorities were never informed.

[John C. Dvorak]

So what's interesting is the timeline of OpenAI and their safety team. This is PBS.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

Current and former OpenAI employees has issued a public letter warning that the company and its rivals are building artificial intelligence with undue risk and without sufficient oversight. They're calling on leading artificial intelligence companies to be more transparent and provide stronger protections for whistleblowers. It comes after OpenAI disbanded its team focused on long term AI risks and two leaders of that group have resigned. We're joined now by NPR technology correspondent Bobby Allen, who's been covering all of these developments.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't really need to hear the rest of the story other than before these shootings took place, they were all saying, hey, this stuff is no good. And they got rid of the safety team. And whoever was left resigned from the safety team, said, no safety team.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's a couple of little elements here of logic that kind of fascinate me. One, the argument that, well, the OpenAI is just saying, you know, it was not responsible in any way criminally because it's just reiterating what's, what's out there in the public domain. But isn't that, wouldn't that be the same if I was asking you for advice on a gun and I was going to shoot up the Florida State campus and you told me this, that and the other.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think, I think I'd get a knock on the door.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but, but it's the same. But the argument would be the same, which is that you're just telling me stuff that's out there on the Internet. You're not giving me any information that, you know that's not available in the public domain. So that argument, I think is invalid. And the other one is, I thought corporations were supposed to be deemed as people. And so they're, they with the same rights and privileges. So shouldn't the corporation be locked up? Yes, Shuttered. In other words, it's just again, I'm

[John C. Dvorak]

with you, I'm with you. They pay taxes like a person. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. The problem that, that OpenAI has, and I think Elon Musk has this too, is they went all consumer. They wanted to, to, they're mentalists. You know, it's like, come on, this is great. You got a buddy, you got a little Tamagotchi, he grows with you, he remembers you, he loves you, he's going to help you. And Anthropic really didn't do that. They went, code, we'll just make code. We're going to get rid of you with code and so. And musk. All he ever. If you look at his expos. This is all AI. And there's no one real in this video. Like, who cares? And he always has these kind of like semi like home.

[Adam Curry]

Did you see the one Darren o' Neill did?

[John C. Dvorak]

No. They had hometown American girls, you know, all American girls.

[Adam Curry]

Darren O' Neill did a video promoting his 700th show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And it's, you know, some hottie and somebody else talking about, let's tune in. Breasts falling out of her top.

[John C. Dvorak]

I wonder what. Have you ever seen a picture of Darren? I wonder what he looks like.

[Adam Curry]

I know there's a. There's pictures of him floating around.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've never seen a picture. In fact, I don't want to see a picture of Darren. I have a picture in my mind.

[Adam Curry]

Well, what's the picture in your mind?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he's very tall. I know. I think he's taller than I am. I think he's, you know, is one of these chiseled jaw, you know.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I. Yeah. Think Fabio.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. That is the picture I have in my mind. Darren o' Neill is Fabio. Nailed it. But maybe with short hair. Fabio. Fabio with a B. Fabio.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. No, Fabio. Fabio. Fabio to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

And. And you know, he should never be seen. That. That is the. The theater of the mind. He just did his 700th episode of the rock and roll pre show. And, you know, he is the quintessential rock DJ. Exactly what he shows in those videos in the 50s. Yeah, well, he's like, you know, he's like a. He's got a T shirt on. He's got, you know, he's got a scruff beard.

[Adam Curry]

All this jokes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, there's that and the good music.

[Adam Curry]

Well, yeah, he plays nothing but live mixes that are. Well, I think they're dressed well.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, but he thinks that by playing live mixes, somehow it's legal to play those. That's the big joke. Yeah, somehow. Because. Because they're live performances there. It's okay.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's no issue there. Yes. Soon in jail. Oh, man. So King Charles is coming with Camilla. This is all very exciting, people.

[Caroline Levitt]

Buckingham palace releasing more trip details as King Charles III and Queen Camill prepare to visit the US later this month. Here's what we know. They'll start in Washington, D.C. where President Trump will hold a welcome ceremony. Then the King will address Congress before a state banquet at the White House. They also plan to visit New York to commemorate victims of 9 11. Next up, Virginia for a block party celebrating America's 250th birthday. The palace says this trip is to recognize the shared history of our two nations on the anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

[John C. Dvorak]

So they're literally going to the Yorktown battlefield where George Washington kicked the Red Coats. I mean, this. This is not a celebration for him.

[Adam Curry]

That doesn't sound like something you do well.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think Charles is here to negotiate the terms of surrender with Trump. It's like, you're done, Charles. We got you. We got your banking connections to all the oil, to all the drugs, everything that you've been screw with us for years, our special relationship or we're the dumb muscle for any war that you start. And the Brits are not happy about this visit.

[David Dimbleby]

I feel sorry for him going and, you know, having sitting down to a state dinner with a man who has insulted the British troops in Afghanistan and said they weren't particularly important and weren't needed.

[Adam Curry]

Is it a good idea for the

[John C. Dvorak]

King to go to the United States next month?

[David Dimbleby]

I think it's in acute embarrassment, to tell the truth. No, I don't think it's a good idea. And I was rather hoping that they might find a way of dodging the column by postponing the visit while what was going on in Iran was going on and say, this is not perhaps an appropriate moment to go. I mean, I pity the King. I mean, he's at the mercy of the government. The government says go. He goes, just like, remember the Queen had to entertain Ceausescu, murderous dictator.

[Caroline Levitt]

That's their job.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly my job.

[David Dimbleby]

But I. I feel sorry for him going and, you know, having sitting down to a state dinner with a man who has insulted the British troops in Afghanistan. Yeah, you said that weren't particularly important and weren't needed. Who's insulted? I'm not talking about insulting the government, but insulted our Royal Navy. You know, what Navy? His way to be rude about Britain and about NATO and. Who's a narcissist and a bully.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a bully. There it is.

[Adam Curry]

He's a bully.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a bully. Well, that was. That was David Dimbleby. Here's Ed Davy. Prime Minister's Question Time.

[Commodity Trader Expert]

Mr. Speaker, in a phone call with Sky News last night, President Trump has threatened to rip up his trade deal with the UK as punishment for us not joining his idiotic war in Iran. Mr. Speaker, this must be the last straw. Surely the Prime Minister can't send our King to meet a man who treats Al Qaeda country like a Mafia boss running A protection racket.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, who you calling a mafia? Our Don. Are you. Are you crazy? Andrew Mar, though he did.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, do you remember during Trump's first term where the Parliament was going to ban him from even visiting the uk?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, yes, yeah, but. But you see, we've beaten them into submission. That's what. One more from Andrew Marr, from. He's now, I think he used to be on BBC. I don't know if he's still on the BBC, but this is his lbc, his broadcast.

[Andrew Marr]

It should all be cancelled now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Really?

[Andrew Marr]

Of course. By the.

[John C. Dvorak]

I wonder if they're afraid the King is actually going to sign the terms of surrender.

[Andrew Marr]

Prime Minister. The possible benefit is far too small, the dangers too great. Even if it all went well, what are the dangers?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, maybe he'll tell us what the dangers are.

[Andrew Marr]

If it all went well and President Trump behaved himself with the monarch he describes as a gentleman, how much credit would be won for Britain? Some. A smidgen, A pinch. A pinch for 10 minutes, maybe an hour, perhaps, even if we're lucky, a day. And then Trump would change his mind again and cancel the trade deal or further undermine the NATO alliance, or be abusive.

[John C. Dvorak]

Personally, this sounds like a bunch of scaredy cats to me who have no navy. Their own generals came out and said, yeah, you know, we don't even know where most of the stuff is and it won't start and we don't know if it still works and we really haven't done anything for over a decade. And so now it's Trump's fault.

[Andrew Marr]

I wouldn't use words like gangster, but you cannot trust this man and perhaps to his credit, you cannot buy him either.

[Alex Jones]

Sharia.

[Andrew Marr]

After last year's second state visit to the uk, where he was smothered with praise and ceremonial pomp, he started attacking Britain again on the flight home and carried on at the United nations, making wild claims about Sharia law. The epithets he used about British.

[John C. Dvorak]

Have you seen the northern part of your country, Andrew Marr?

[Andrew Marr]

Overnight, this time included. Insane, tragic and sad. So anyone who has tried assumes that putting the King and Queen alongside him in Washington this spring will make things sunnier. I am afraid just hasn't checked the record and the dangers are obvious. The humiliation of the monarch. Trump grabbing the microphone to say something offensive to which the King cannot reply.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, there's your dangers, John. Humiliation of the monarch.

[Andrew Marr]

Look, we have tried flattering the President's ego, we have tried obsequious. It doesn't work. I'm sure King Charles would see all of this as his national duty, grit his teeth and do his stuff and probably crossed fingers, it will go off okay. But I wonder whether in private, the King doesn't quietly agree with the leader of the Liberal Democrats and feel there has been enough kissing of the rod, sucking up of criticism and swallowing of pride.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ooh, sucking and swallowing.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Andrew Maher going all out. So this is about soft power, you see, we need the soft power of the monarch to come and try and smooth things over with NATO and to still be the fighting arm whenever the UK needs us.

[Book of Knowledge]

It's an important visit, this, and it's very important for the King to go over there as if you like, our most important envoy that we have. It is a political visit. It is a soft power diplomacy at its height. The King, after all, you know, is somebody that has been doing this in the sort of number two role for quite some time. He knows how these things operate, and he does it very well behind closed doors. He's a very respected man. And I think that the President will respect his visit and actually warmly welcome him and not embarrass him.

[John C. Dvorak]

So what this is really about is about our military defending the UK Whenever they want us to, which we've done historically. And President Trump's view is we haven't gotten much out of that. This is from the House of Lords, the discussion about the military.

[David Dimbleby]

And as the US undergoes such changes, the United Kingdom must adjust as well. Firstly, it's clear that our high level of military dependence on the US Is no longer tenable. President Trump's demands about a great European contribution are just a dramatic manifestation of a longer term American anxiety about imbalances within NATO. Our reliance on the United States, predicated on the naive belief that it will always be there to support us in times of conflict.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it's not exactly. And have you heard about the latest in the Falklands?

[Adam Curry]

No. Now, this I have not heard.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the Falklands is a little piece that's connected to Argentina, which is. Which is a bit, you know the history better than I would, but it's. It's contested, I would say.

[Adam Curry]

Well, not contested by the Brits.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, not by the Brits, but by

[Adam Curry]

the way, they own it and that's that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was a little kerfuffle in 1982 about it. Here's the latest that's happening based upon a leaked memo from the Pentagon, which I don't think anyone believes was an actual accidental leak.

[Commodity Trader Expert]

Now, Danny street says the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands rests with the UK after it emerged that the Pentagon has

[John C. Dvorak]

been considering options to punish NATO allies

[Commodity Trader Expert]

for not supporting it with its war in Iran.

[John C. Dvorak]

A U.S. official told Reuters that possible sanctions include pushing for Spain's suspension from NATO and reviewing Britain's ownership of the Falklands.

[Commodity Trader Expert]

Well, our World News correspondent, Joe Inward,

[John C. Dvorak]

gave me the latest. I think it's fair to say that this, if this became official State Department official American policy, it would be really very severe indeed. It's. We should say at the moment, this is just a briefing document. This is, you know, an unverified internal thing at the moment. But what this is, is another example of the Americans trying to sort of punish their traditional allies for what they

[Commodity Trader Expert]

see as their lack of involvement in the Iran war.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, exactly. We're going to needle you.

[Book of Knowledge]

Trump seems to be trying to get into Britain's heads, if you like these constant attacks on Starmer against, of course, the King arriving on Monday. But, I mean, I feel quite sorry for the King with the level of diplomacy that he's being asked to carry with him. But I think Trump is playing his games. He's trying to make the point that he wasn't supported properly by us in Iran, that Spain, of course, as well, he's threatening to throw Spain out of NATO, which possibly is a rather bigger story in some ways, but he is looking, I think, to needle us and to try and make. Make it clear that we didn't come up to. We didn't come up to spec. And so that's why he's come up with this. It's interesting because the statement came from the Pentagon. The State Department, which is the equivalent of the Foreign Office in America, have claimed to know nothing about it. So there might be some sort of internal DC Beltway politics going on here, you think? But bear in mind, the Americans have never. They've always been neutral about the Falklands. They have never said it is a British possession. It is not a British possession. Also, bear in mind that Reagan and Thatcher, who were leading Britain and America at the time, had a close relationship and there was undoubtedly a lot of COVID U.S. help in 1982.

[John C. Dvorak]

So, yeah, this is obviously, obviously completely related. And the King's coming over and, hey, King, you know, I don't know about. I'm. I should go on Couchy and place a bet that Trump will say something about the Falklands. You know, hey, why don't you go visit this battleground where we kicked your butt? Enjoy that. Have a good look there, Charles. And then there's the close relationship with Melaye, which just makes things worse for Britain.

[Caroline Levitt]

And obviously, Donald Trump is quite close

[John C. Dvorak]

to Argentina's President, Javier Milei. So there's, you know, there's a potential sort of accident. I mean, it does look like Argentina is rearming. Does the UK military have enough footprint to protect the Falklands? Because I've heard many people in the

[Caroline Levitt]

military saying, well, we couldn't do what

[John C. Dvorak]

we did in the Falklands War.

[Military Analyst]

Now, I think that's definitely a worry. And Argentina are rearming with the help of actually NATO allies they bought and some F16 jets from. From Denmark, and the Americans are helping with the missiles for those jets. And meanwhile, the UK footprint in the Falkland, you know, they've got four typhoons there, they've got under 1,000 troops, and they've recently pulled out a Voyager refueling aircraft to take on a task as a result of the Middle east crisis. So I think there would be genuine concerns about what the UK would be able to do to defend the islands. And, of course, remember, during the Falkland War. Falkland War, we had an awful lot of aircraft and ships, and at the moment, we don't really have any ships that would be available to send there. And if we did, it would take an awful long time to get there. So I think there's definitely a perceived vulnerability there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Trump games to the max.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's pretty funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love it.

[Adam Curry]

Macron going to China.

[President Trump]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you have that?

[Adam Curry]

No, I don't. I should have. It was a mistake on my part. No. The Chrome goes to China and starts speaking for the EU and bad mouths the US it was a kind of a fiasco. We'll get to that in the next show, but I want to change gears and talk about Big Pharma for a second.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, Big Pharma it is.

[Adam Curry]

First of all, because there was a hearing in Germany with one of the Ex Pfizer guys. Yeah, Hotshot. And I have three clips of that. And it's just disgusting to listen to these stories. And mostly this is about COVID 19 vaccine. I mean, how long is they going to keep this thing on the market? How long is that guy from UCSF at the Bay Area going to come on TV and say, get another Covid shot. You haven't gotten enough.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's on TV in.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, this guy Hong. There's a guy. It keeps coming. He's on all the network, all the local stations, and he comes on. Oh, yeah, the new shot's been reformulated. It's great.

[John C. Dvorak]

Reformulated. It's new Covet shot.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's listen to this. Pharma executive. Pfizer executive. This is translated. So you have. You know they're speaking German. Yeah, and. But it's very educational. Part one.

[Interviewer]

Dr. Sterz, you worked as the chief toxicologist for Pfizer Europe, is that correct?

[Dr. Sterz]

Yes, that is correct. I was responsible there for all animal experiments related to drug safety.

[Interviewer]

Thank you. My questions concern community from Pfizer Biontech. You have dealt extensively with the approval of this vaccine and the documentation. Is that correct?

[Dr. Sterz]

That is correct.

[Interviewer]

Was the carcinogenicity of this vaccine tested prior to approval?

[Dr. Sterz]

No, the carcinogenic risk was not investigated due to time constraints. By the way, I find it very worrying and also regrettable that no alternative studies were conducted.

[Interviewer]

We are observing in Germany, but also in many other countries that the birth rate plummeted following the vaccination campaign.

[Dr. Sterz]

Yes, you are referring to studies concerning reproduction. A study on rats using commernity was inadequately conducted. Consequently, no reliable assessments of the vaccine's effect on pregnancy or the development of offspring were possible. Nothing had been learned from the thalidomide disaster. According to the RKI protocol, approval was granted in a fast track procedure. This meant that essential toxicity studies were sacrificed for the sake of speed without acceptable justification. I know of no case with a comparable indication in which all these studies were omitted. Thus, the approval led to prohibited human trials.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Surely they've done these studies now on carcinogenity on the new new new new COVID vaccine.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah. No, not that I know of. Okay, here we go.

[Interviewer]

So the RKI had noted internally at the time that side effects and vaccine related injuries were only to be investigated after the product had been launched.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, maybe we can use this guy's voice for the book of knowledge. Sounds a little more. Little more fun.

[Interviewer]

What came of that?

[Dr. Sterz]

Pfizer's post marketing report mentioned over 1200 suspected deaths within just two months of approval. Komarnity should have been withdrawn from the market by then. At the latest, if I am correctly informed, the Paul Ehrlich Institute has received 2133 reports of deaths following Kommernity to date. With these spontaneous reports there is a high number of unreported cases due to underreporting. The actual number is therefore much higher. In the US an underreporting factor of 30 is assumed by which the registered cases should be multiplied. For Germany, that would correspond to 60,000 deaths caused by the vaccine.

[Interviewer]

60,000. So the federal government is withholding the important SafeWAC and KB data on vaccination injuries and the majority of this commission has even refused to request this data. Could vaccine injuries and deaths have been avoided with approval compliant with the regulations?

[Dr. Sterz]

Yes, because comranity should not have been approved at all under the regulations.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. But this community was the good vaccine.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you remember, that was the one you kind of wanted if you had to take it anyway.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. Yeah, wow. Here we go with the dude. Now this part kind of bothers me. And again, this brings up my never ending complaint about liability issues. You know, if people could sue, none of this would happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, can they sue in Germany? I guess they can sue in Germany.

[Alex Jones]

Maybe.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. I don't know the rules in Germany.

[Adam Curry]

I heard they did the same thing there.

[Interviewer]

Currently many vaccine injured individuals in Germany are fighting for compensation for pain and suffering. They often lose because the courts say community has a positive risk benefit ratio.

[OpenAI Spokesperson]

Is the.

[Interviewer]

Is this assumption justified?

[Dr. Sterz]

In my view, absolutely not. Comrnity was not tested at all during clinical development for the prevention of severe illness or deaths. Pfizer documents therefore do not indicate a positive risk benefit ratio at all. Mathematician Robert Rockenfeller from the University of Koblenz estimates that for every severe case of COVID 19 that combinity allegedly prevents, there are 25 severe side effects.

[Interviewer]

Okay. Did age adjusted mortality in Germany decline after the start of this vaccination campaign?

[Dr. Sterz]

No. Mortality rose significantly from 2021 to 2022 compared to 2020. If there had been a positive risk benefit ratio, mortality should have declined when the vaccine became available in early 2021.

[Interviewer]

That makes sense. Did the population receive the active ingredient during the vaccination campaign that Pfizer tested in the shortened emergency approval process?

[Dr. Sterz]

No. A highly purified substance was used for the clinical trial before approval. It was too expensive for mass production. The public received a vaccine produced using the Escherichia coli bacterium. The result is significant contamination with bacterial DNA and the consequence could be a heavily increased risk of cancer.

[Interviewer]

Thank you very much.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you know Ron Johnson is the guy in the United States who does stuff like this. This is not like it's anything new. We know this, we've known this, this has been out there.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And it just keeps coming out with more and more. It's like piling on and they still don't stop distributing this stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

So why is that?

[Adam Curry]

Well, you tell me. And now listen to this guy. Now this is Dr. Eric Berg who had this little ditty that I thought. I thought this was an eye opener. And a lot of it has to do with the corruption of the pharma and the FDC. And listen to this.

[S]

So in 2007, Congress passed a law and it says if you run a drug study in America, you have to post the results, all of them, not just the ones that worked, but the ones that did not work and the ones that where they hurt people as well. And that's the law. So, and when I say results, I'm not talking about we did a study. I mean the actual numbers. Did drugs work on the thing you said that they were measuring how many people got sick, how many people died. All of that is required by law. Because if a company runs 10 studies and only two out of eight work and they only show the good ones and suppress the bad ones, then the doctor and the patient are misled, especially in the. The consent form, the informed consent, when patients sign off that they know the risks and benefits. So that's the law for about 19 years. The fine for breaking this law is about $13,000 a day per trial, omitted. So every day they're late, the meter runs 13 grand per day. So take a wild guess how many fines the FDA has collected in those 19 years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Zero.

[Adam Curry]

Zero.

[S]

If you guess zero, you are correct. Zero, not a dollar. So Oxford University did the math, and if the FDA had enforced the law, PhRMA would owe $19 billion. Three weeks ago, the end of March, the new FDA commissioner, Dr. Marty Makary, put out this announcement and he said pharma has been suppressing unfavorable clinical trial results. And he used the word suppressing, which means hiding, not showing, omitting. So this is like the first time a commissioner in that job has come out in the open and said it. He sent messages to 2,200 companies, 2200. And the message, message wasn't a fine. It was just saying, hey, you know, we see you, we know you're out of compliance, you have to fix it. That's it. And you might say that's a little thing, but. But just take a look at the enforcement that happened in the 19. Last 19 years, the only letters that were sent out were like eight in 19 years.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the only thing I can Hope is that RFK Jr. Is doing two things in parallel. One is getting all the healthy stuff in the Maha, the Maha stuff, which I think he's been doing a pretty good job. We've brought back a real food pyramid. We're getting rid of all kinds of things that shouldn't be in our food. We're trying to educate people about what is real food. Some of the food Companies are changing, but I hope in parallel, he is building a monster because he is a lawyer. This is what he's been doing. He sued pharma companies for his entire career. I hope he's building a monster case that will send people to the electric chair. And, you know, and he has another couple of years to do it. I really, really, really hope that, because that, to me, was a big part of the Trump administration, was when Kennedy jumps in and says, I'm going to be a part of this. And we know. We know he knows his bullcrap. We know he knows that this stuff was bad and dangerous. Now you laugh because, I mean, do you think that that's not even in the cards, that he won't do that? I mean, he doesn't seem like he's a. He's a feared kind of guy.

[Adam Curry]

I think he wants to do it. I think that the team around him wants to do it. But there is so much embedded and there's so much corruption by pharma. I mean, there was the $19 billion you could have collected. Now they got nothing. They got zero collected. And you have the liability scam, and you have the advertising on TV scam, and you have capture of the media, and you have, you know, these guys that come on TV that promote this stuff, and they get paid to do it, and the. The networks get extra money.

[John C. Dvorak]

So that's it. He gives up. We just. I can't do it. It's too big. I'm gonna die not having trouble.

[Adam Curry]

That's what it looks like to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that would be very disappointing.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we'll all be disappointed. Yeah. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Well, that was a bummer. Thanks.

[Adam Curry]

Let's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me do a little update on Iran with just quick little. Yeah. Some financial, economic fury. Update from the Gay General Patent.

[Caroline Levitt]

Just to put a fine point on this, though, is the president in the process of winding down this war or say what?

[Adam Curry]

To put a fine point on it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Well, this is Manhand Welker. So. Yeah.

[Gay General Patton]

Again, they're not mutually exclusive. Sometimes you have to escalate to de. Escalate.

[Caroline Levitt]

Oh, okay. NBC News is reporting that President Trump is considering sending troops into Iran. Will the administration use troops to secure the Strait of Hormuz or for any. Any other reason?

[John C. Dvorak]

Why is she asking the Secretary of the treasury these questions is what I want to know.

[Adam Curry]

How would she happen all the time? You pointed this out before. This is not the first time.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

That he's been grilled on stuff that he's not. Shouldn't have Any connection to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he is, he is the general patent secretary.

[Gay General Patton]

Again, as President Trump said during the press break yesterday when he was going out to Marine One, he's not to going, going to give a giveaway. What we're going to do is, as President Trump always does, he's leaving all options on the, on the table. We had a very successful bombing campaign against the military installations at Cargill island, the nexus for all the Iranian oil supply. You know what could happen with Carg Island? We'll see. And again, just to be clear, the command and control system system of the Iranian regime is in chaos. This is Hitler's bunker. Hitler is dead. Him or is dead? Goring is dead.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no. The Eva Gardner is dead.

[Gay General Patton]

Most of what you're seeing are lone wolf activities. This the mid range ICBM that was shot off these two missiles yesterday? That's out of desperation, Kristen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he knows a lot for, for a money guy, you bring up Island.

[Caroline Levitt]

I want to ask you about your statement. You said it could become a U.S. asset. What exactly does that mean? Could U.S. troops go into Carg island to secure it?

[Gay General Patton]

Again, as I said, all options are on the table.

[Caroline Levitt]

Okay, so that's a possibility.

[Gay General Patton]

All options are on the table.

[Caroline Levitt]

All right, let me talk about your announcement this past week. On Friday, the Treasury Department lifted sanctions on Iranian oil stored on tankers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, I chose this because the previous clip that we played on a show ago, he was doing the math and he was fighting with his calculator, but he did it wrong because he said 60% of 150 or do you want just $100? And his math was off on the 60%. So he's changed that now in his

[Caroline Levitt]

answer, a move that would effectively allow Iran to get more than $14 billion of oil revenue. Is the US helping to fund a country that it's currently at war with?

[Gay General Patton]

Again, Christine, why don't we have good facts here that Iranian oil was always going to be sold to the Chinese. It was going to be sold at a discount. So which is better, Kristen? The seven. The. Which is better? If they were. If oil prices spiked to $150 and they were getting 70% of that, or oil prices below 100, it's better to have them where they are now. And to be clear, we had always planned for this contingency. About 140 million barrels are out on the water. In essence, we are jiu jitsuing the Iranians. We are using their own oil against them. We have a much better line of sight, to be clear. A Treasury. When this oil. Oil goes to. If it goes to Indonesia, if it goes to Japan, if it goes to Korea, we have a much better line of sight and are able to block accounts that the oil goes into. When it goes into China, it completely gets recycled. So the fort, to be clear, that 14 billion.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't understand that. The two things he says here, one is we get to block the accounts that the oil goes into. I mean, maybe the accounts that. That will be paying for the oil, but I don't know if. Does someone go to the bank and say, here's some oil.

[Adam Curry]

And then what he's talking about.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that's. Yes. And what are you talking about?

[Adam Curry]

Recycled for the Chinese, reselling it to somebody else?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that's what he means. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

No, but that's not what they do with the oil. They use the stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is he saying they recycle it?

[Gay General Patton]

Line of sight. And are able to block accounts that the oil goes into. When it goes into China, it completely gets recycled cycle. So the fort, to be clear, that billion number is grossly overstated.

[Caroline Levitt]

Let me unpack what you're just saying. First of all, how much is it? And second of all, I don't hear you disputing that Iran will get some of the money.

[Gay General Patton]

Iran already gets a huge amount of the money because Iran is the largest sponsor of state terrorism and China has been funding them.

[Adam Curry]

China, with the connection there. They get a lot of money because of the sponsor. State terrorism.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he's not.

[Adam Curry]

Where's the logic in the. Today's show is about ill logic.

[John C. Dvorak]

And here is the President with the latest on the negotiations.

[Caroline Levitt]

Today, President Trump canceled plans for his top envoys, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, to travel to Pakistan for negotiations with Iran aimed at ending the war. The President spoke in Florida right before returning to Washington, D.C. we're not going

[President Trump]

to spend 15 hours in airplanes. All the time going back and forth to be giving a document that was not good enough.

[John C. Dvorak]

We got Zoom.

[President Trump]

And so we'll deal by telephone and they can call us anytime they want.

[Caroline Levitt]

Tonight, Iran's foreign minister, who left Pakistan, is questioning whether the US Is serious about diplomacy.

[John C. Dvorak]

I agree. Zoom Call. People, let's save some money, save some time. Zoom Call. So I was sent a clip which I'd never seen before, and I think it's Mike Wallace interviewing the then Shah of Iran. Have you seen this clip?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, I have.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good. Because I was puzzled by it. Have you seen the lines of cars stretching for blocks, in some cases for miles? This is 1974. The oil shortage, the gas crisis, waiting to get fast. I have seen the picture and you cannot. But you have imported more oil than any time in the past. Well, not recently we haven't. You have. You mean we are still importing more oil than we were, let's say in September. You believe that? I can't say for sure, but what is certain is that you are not importing less than the Ministry we were importing last September. Then this whole thing is a fraud. You know that ships are changing their destinations two or three times in the oceans. You sell the oil for a certain destination and it ends up somewhere else. What you seem to be saying is that there is some fraud involved, that there is something going on that doesn't meet the eye. Oh, something is going on for sure. And who is being enriched by it? The oil companies. The oil companies. You know that one oil company has made 67% interest this year and another one even more? Well, the president of Aramco acknowledges. Yes, not the president. The chairman of the board of Aramco acknowledged to us that their profits, the parent company, will go up by 400% next year, just as Iran's profits will go up. But this is our wealth, our natural wealth. For them it's only a question of manipulation. So the implication here, 1974. I'm old enough to remember I was not in America in the gas lines, but I was in the Netherlands where we had car free Sundays. There was no driving on Sunday because there wasn't enough oil to make gasolina for the entire country. What I'm hearing the Shah say here is that it wasn't that the oil wasn't available, but it was being diverted by nefarious actors to other places.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, it's cute.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you know this? Do you think that's true?

[Adam Curry]

Well, it was never documented that to be true. There was supposed to be a shortage. We weren't getting enough or the prices were going up and they kind of created a shortage. Because the price. I don't know, maybe. I mean, it's possible.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, here's the coincidence.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, I went through that. I was working for the air pollution district and since I had a car, a government car, I didn't have any of these issues. I just drove it around.

[John C. Dvorak]

You just drove it around? You go to the government pump and get filled up whenever you wanted it.

[Adam Curry]

We didn't have any government pumps, but I never had. I don't remember waiting in long lines. I just don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the oil baron had given me a book to read a couple weeks, maybe a couple months ago. I talked about it, I think briefly, the men who run the world, the people who run the world. And it's about the commodity traders, the people who actually buy the stuff. And they're organizing ghost ships and loading and offloading from one ship to the next. And, oh, you need some oil from Libya. Don't worry, we'll go in. We know guys on the ground, they won't shoot us. And it's a. It's a really good book. And the Freakonomics podcast had the authors of this book on just this week. And here's their version of what happens during the 70s with an old show favorite, Mark Rich. And Mark Rich we know because he, he wound up in Switzerland and was pardoned by President Clinton on the last day of his presidency. And he arguably was the guy who really put commodity trading on the map.

[Commodity Trader Expert]

A lot of what you needed to do to make money in the oil trade in those early days was to have a good enough relationship with one of the big oil producers that they would sell you oil at a price that was probably too low. One of his big trade flows was through this extremely secretive pipeline that went through Israel that was built as a joint venture between Israel and Iran before the fall of the shah in great secrecy. And Mark Rich would be buying Iranian oil, putting it through the pipeline, supplying Israel, but also supplying Europe through this pipeline, which then became enormously valuable. When the Suez Canal closed in 1967, after Israel launched an attack on Egypt and Syria, this brief war was over. But the Suez Canal stayed closed until 1975. And for Mark Rich, that was a gift from the gods. And he made huge amounts of money. Mark Rich became this almost larger than life figure in commodity trading, the most profitable commodity trader ever. We spoke to a number of former senior people at Mark Rich, who said that the company made a billion dollars of profit in 1979, the year of the Iranian revolution, which in those days would have made it one of the 10 largest companies in America. And this was a company owned by a small handful of people that only people in the commodities industry had ever heard of. But that didn't last because Mark Rich caught the attention of U.S. law and particularly of Rudy Giuliani, then a prosecutor, who indicted him for tax fraud and for trading with Iran during the hostage crisis. So he and his partner, Pinky Green, fled the US to Switzerland, became fugitives from US justice, and then carried on their business of being the world's largest commodity trading house. Despite this US Indictment hanging over their head.

[John C. Dvorak]

First of all, a name like Pinky Green is just awesome. Everybody needs a friend whose name is Pinky Green. But I didn't know that Giuliani was involved in that. And to me, yeah, this kind of rings true. This might have been a manufactured crisis by a bunch of shysters running around doing all this oil business with Iran and Israel of all two countries. Come on, we're being hoodwinked about all of this stuff. All of this stuff is fake and gay. What you're paying at the pump now. Fake and gay. All of it. This is all manipulation. They have one more clip here about today's situation.

[Adam Curry]

Giuliani's a suspicious character. Have you heard karaoke talk about him?

[President Trump]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kiriakou's all on the up and up, too. These are all suspicious characters. None of them are any good. If Mark Rich were starting out today, what would he be doing?

[Commodity Trader Expert]

He'd probably be trying to trade Russian, Iranian, Venezuelan oil, selling it to India and China.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think what happened here is Trump became the new Mark Rich. He's like, I can do this. I'll just do it for America.

[Commodity Trader Expert]

Those are the dodgy bits of the oil market where there is huge amounts of money to be made which rely on having good connections and a willingness to bend or break the rules.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now somebody is doing that.

[Commodity Trader Expert]

Plainly, lots of people are doing that, for the most part. Not the principal characters of our book, because the principal characters of our book have become such enormous companies that they're too reliant on the US dollar system to risk falling foul of the US Government. For the most part. That Russian oil flow, for example, Iranian oil flow, which is subject to even stricter sanctions, has gone into the hands of more shadowy traders. There's this new set of traders that has popped up in Dubai who change his name every few months, including sometimes because they get sanctioned by the US Government, which is involved in trading a lot of the Russian oil. A lot of the Iranian oil gets traded or even bartered directly by Chinese companies. And Chinese buyers sometimes gets shipped via Malaysia, where it gets rebranded as Malaysian oil and then imported into China as Malaysian, Roth and Iranian oil.

[John C. Dvorak]

There are political scientists who make the argument that sanctions often fail for a variety of reasons. Do they factor in what you're talking about right now? Which is just that there are shadow dealers essentially who are finding ways to

[Jonathan Capehart]

get around the sanctions.

[Commodity Trader Expert]

One of the key arguments for why people say that sanctions don't work, particularly sanctions on things like commodities, because if commodities are produced, then as a rule, they tend to flow and they tend to find a market. Market. Because they're fungible, it's quite hard to trace them. I wouldn't say it's universally true. For example, in 2012, when the US and Europe ratcheted up sanctions on Iran, Iranian oil production and exports did fall pretty substantially.

[John C. Dvorak]

This whole thing, there's so much we're not aware of. There's a lot going on with this. I pray that Trump knows what he's doing. He must. He must have some view of this, of what's happening. And Besant, I think the.

[Adam Curry]

The money part probably does for sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the money part.

[Adam Curry]

They.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think they've kind of got that nailed down.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we're just pawns in the game.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, we're just podcaster pawns. We're just podcasters. Oh, speaking of podcasters, they're all turning on Trump, man. The manosphere podcasters are turning on Trump. Something's changed.

[President Trump]

On day one, I will launch the largest deportation program in American history.

[Andrew Marr]

That was the winning election promise. This is the reality. Arrests at workplaces and hardware stores, and

[John C. Dvorak]

some of those huge supporters now publicly cooling the.

[Alex Jones]

Storming into Home Depot and arresting people. No, no, that's not cool either.

[John C. Dvorak]

The military in the street, I think

[Alex Jones]

is a dangerous press.

[Adam Curry]

Heard you got deported, dude.

[Andrew Marr]

Theo von Furious that this video of his was used by the government in an immigration promo. Aiden Ross, who gave Trump a Tesla, now going in the other direction.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you both voted first time last year, right?

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

For Trump.

[Andrew Marr]

How do these podcasts affect your vote?

[John C. Dvorak]

Kind of be able to hear him

[Caroline Levitt]

talk for three hours.

[John C. Dvorak]

It kind of gets you a little

[Adam Curry]

bit more, oh, this is who he is.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a little bit more human. When you see these manosphere podcasters moving

[Andrew Marr]

away from the president, what do you

[David Dimbleby]

make of all of that?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's important to make your

[Adam Curry]

own decisions and not blindly follow, like,

[John C. Dvorak]

a celebrity or a podcaster just because you enjoy watching their show. Yeah, that was cnn. Here's Ms. Now.

[Jonathan Capehart]

But the other risk is that they are now potentially turning Donald Trump into a cultural punchline. Right? That he's an idiot, that his supporters are dorks, that he's been fooled into doing all this stuff and that he's a failure. And Donald Trump, for better or for worse, has had an incredible ability to shape the perceptions of him and the cultural relevance that he has. And to a degree, he loses that control when these people turn on him, when his own supporters turn on him. And that hasn't really happened in the entirety of his political career. These people are not maga. They are just politically curious podcasters who kind of got sucked in and came to support Trump. Now you ask, is it dangerous? Of course it's dangerous politically, but is it justified? And I would argue it is justified because there are a host of promises that Donald Trump made to this sect in particular, but the voters in general that he's just not followed through on. It's not just the stay out of Middle east wars. It's not just to be completely transparent. On the Epstein files, he literally said he would bring down gasoline prices by half.

[John C. Dvorak]

So for the people who email me, I've noticed this trend, and the trend is two terms, defending and supporting. Because the emails I get is, you know, well, yeah, it's okay, but, you know, you're defending Trump, you're supporting Trump, and just because I. I don't think either of us are hair on fire slamming Trump, which is what the audience captured podcasts are doing because their audiences are very similar to ours. You're supporting Trump, you're defending him, we're giving you analysis. We're trying to figure out what is going on, what his strategy would be, presuming that he's not stupid. So you're going.

[Adam Curry]

Or nuts or senile.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you're going to get a different result by listening to the no Agenda podcast. That doesn't mean we're defending or supporting anything. We're trying to see it from. I've Learned in the 18 years we've been doing this and really has been during this show, that the world that you see is usually if you turn it upside down. That's the reality of it. It's the strangest thing. If everyone's going right, you should be looking left. Don't look over here, look over there. So when everyone's saying Trump is nuts and he's senile and he's demented and he's a liar and he doesn't know what he's doing, I'm looking for the thing where maybe it's exactly the opposite. So the only thing I'll defend is our analysis. And I think it's good that we do that. I think you should cherish what we're doing. And most people will say, I'm not going to stop listening. But you're wrong. You're defending and supporting us. No, we're giving you a different analysis, and you should be happy about that. Different analysis. It may strengthen your own beliefs, it may make you question them, but either way, please don't write These long emails explaining how we've gone off the rails. I told.

[Adam Curry]

I don't see it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry.

[Adam Curry]

I don't see us going off the rails. No, I mean, if you wanted to say something was off the rails, have a clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. He's got something. He's got a clip. An off the rails clip, I think.

[Adam Curry]

Now, this is funny. Trump administration approves firing squads.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, Ryan Nobles joins us live in studio. And, Ryan, another headline we're tracking from the Justice Department. They're bringing back firing squads for federal executions. Yeah, that's right, Tom.

[S]

The Biden administration had placed a moratorium

[John C. Dvorak]

on federal executions, but the Trump administration administration is lifting that ban and planning

[S]

to reintroduce other forms of execution beyond lethal injections, like firing squads. Tom, they say it's to streamline the process and speed up those executions.

[John C. Dvorak]

I personally. Okay, first of all, I'm all for all of this. I just want the TV rights. This is all I've ever asked for. I think that if I had the TV rights to all firing squads, Dana Brunetti would find the money to back us to do this television show.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

I also think the guillotine would be a good, cool thing to bring back.

[Adam Curry]

The guillotine. Be cool. Especially if they lift the head up where the guy's by the air, breathing for air and the mouth going up and down. Oh, man, that would be entertainment.

[John C. Dvorak]

Speaking of entertainment, the biggest box office smash. Have you heard what Michael Jackson.

[Adam Curry]

But this based on the Broadway play, right?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is the biopic. This is the.

[Adam Curry]

This is a biopic. This is not the Broadway show. That's true.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no. This is the biopic. It's a big production. Lionsgate, here we go. I got a clip. Ready whenever you are, Michael.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

Michael explores his ascent to superstardom from the giant Jackson 5 and a childhood in the spotlight.

[John C. Dvorak]

Y' all willing to fight for it? Yes, sir.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

To escaping his abusive father and manager Joe Jackson's grip.

[Adam Curry]

I need to think.

[President Trump]

I told you what to think.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

The title role is played by the King of Pop's nephew, Jafar Jackson.

[John C. Dvorak]

What I want the world to feel.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

The biopic ends in 1984, at the peak of Michael's thriller superstar,

[Caroline Levitt]

but it

[Reporter/News Anchor]

glosses over a central part of his life story, the child sex abuse allegations that still haunt his legacy. The filmmakers say they planned on tackling the allegations, which first surfaced in 1993, but that they were cut because of legal constraints.

One's understanding of Michael Jackson is not complete. If you refuse to look at the whole picture.

The Jackson estate, which was involved in the film, maintains his innocence and calls the claims against him lies and money grabs. The pop star was acquitted in 2005 and died four years later.

[John C. Dvorak]

We drive in.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

But the allegations would ramp up again in the 2019 documentary Leaving Neverland.

[Caroline Levitt]

Hello.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

Wade, the documentary's director, spoke to the Hollywood Reporter about the new film, saying people just don't care about the allegations. Even if, in his view, Jackson is worse than Epstein.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think with Michael Jackson, he was

[S]

almost too big to fail.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

The musician's daughter, Paris Jackson also condemned the film. There's a lot of inaccuracy and there's

[Caroline Levitt]

a lot of just full blown lies.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

There's at least one protest planned outside a Canadian theater with organizers calling the movie a slap in the face to open all child sexual abuse survivors. Taria Isri, Global News, Montreal.

[John C. Dvorak]

So everybody's in luck because I happen to be somewhat of an authority on Michael Jackson, having met him more than once, having been in the music business during at least part of his amazing career. In fact, at one point I was called upon as an expert in all things Michael Jackson.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, here we go.

[John C. Dvorak]

When he died and MSNBC called me.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. This was your first and last visit to msnbc.

[Caroline Levitt]

I mean, there seems to be an insatiable appetite for this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, absolutely. And I'm amazed, as, you know, as you're showing the footage and everyone seems to be showing the footage of these rehearsals just two days before his death. You know, here's a guy who clearly was in great physical shape. He had 30, 40 concerts coming up in the O2 arena in London. That's a huge production. You have to be preparing yourself a year in advance, at least physically. You can't put on a show like that without an enormous insurance coverage, which includes a tremendous amount of physical testing. So I'm amazed at what happened. And I know that there's breaking news about some form of med. Medicinal drugs that were found in his home. I'm quite frankly, I'm amazed that no one is looking at a murder angle on this.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

And, well, we shall see.

[Caroline Levitt]

There's much more like a long pause,

[John C. Dvorak]

pregnant pause, and they hung up on me and have never called again. But of course, the doctor was convicted.

[Adam Curry]

Well, at least consistent.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the doctor was convicted of killing him.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And his lawyer, who was married to

[Adam Curry]

Catherine, you nailed it. And these guys, you know, they just. You weren't playing the game.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was not playing the game. So Kamala Harris, as a side note, was the prosecutor on that trial that might tell you something. He was acquitted. So when you're acquitted, then it's done. But it's very sad to see this theme keep coming up that he was a child molester. And having met him, I can tell you this guy was asexual. There was no sex going on with this guy. I think the one time was with Brooke Shields. I think he actually found her attractive. But when I went to. I'll just tell the story briefly. So MTV was filled with deals. MT was all deals, deals, deals. And they wanted Michael Jackson to perform at the VMAs, the video music Awards. And he said, okay, but under two conditions. And one of them was that he would be giving the Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award of the Year and that the award would be named after him, which they changed the minute J. Lo wanted. But okay, so they're not good people if they change that award. But that was all political, of course, because for some reason, Michael Jackson fiddled with kids, which I just do not believe. And so I had to go to Los Angeles. You can see the video on YouTube. Me and Tom Freston. Michael Jackson in that video is taller than I am. That's because he was standing on an apple crate, because I guess he didn't know how tall I was. He requested me specifically. I'm not quite sure why, but when I walked into MJJ Studios, there must have been 30 kids, and they were brown and black. And I think that they were underprivileged kids. And they had this beautiful playground and there were nannies and nurses around them taking care of them. And Howie Mandel was there doing Bobby's World voices. Michael Jackson truly loved children and there was nothing sexual about it. That's just a lie. And for whatever reason or money probably, people just keep bringing this up over and over again. So whereas I'm not defending President Trump, I will defend Michael Jackson, having met him more than once. This guy was asexual. And I'm interested in the movie. People say it's no good, but I'm interested in seeing it. I would go watch. I'm glad it's out.

[Adam Curry]

I'm good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nice report, if only for the reason that I recently asked a room full of 20 year olds and they said, well, so tell us about what you did at mtv. They've never seen a video on mtv. I said, well, you know, it's like Diana Ross and Mick Jagger and David Bowie and Michael Jackson. They have no idea. They had no idea who Michael Jackson was, of course.

[Adam Curry]

Why would they?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Well, so now they do. There you go. That's my report.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, you've done this before, and I think it's valid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you.

[Adam Curry]

Sounds right to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So I have a couple of. Just. I don't know how many more much time we have left.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we got some time for something.

[Adam Curry]

I got Brooks and K. Park. No, this was provided to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is literally the definition of fake and gay. Brooks and Capehart.

[Adam Curry]

This was provided to me by Steve the clip collector. Steve the clip collector. And because I had stopped doing the Brooks and Capehart gig for a while, I was giving it a rest. And I didn't realize I've given it a rest for so long. It's like four months. Because I think mostly because you were bitching and moaning about. Because you hate Brooks and you hate Capehart.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pretty much.

[Adam Curry]

With good reason. So I found this interesting. This is a couple of things. They're discussing the DOJ dropping the case against Powell, which they've done. In fact, we could play a pre clip here on Powell.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you got a pre clip?

[Adam Curry]

There may be a pre clip. That's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where's the pre clip?

[Adam Curry]

It would be under.

[John C. Dvorak]

Under Powell.

[Adam Curry]

Powell. No, I don't see it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think you have a pre clip.

[Adam Curry]

I'm pretty sure I do. Whatever. Okay. It's beside the point. We can just go right to these. So here we have the discussion of dropping the key clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, PBS News.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's your pre clip. Okay.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

The Justice Department is dropping its criminal probe into Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell.

[Adam Curry]

Powell.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

Over whether he lied to Congress about renovations at the Fed's headquarters. Instead, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Jeanine Pirro, said the Fed's inspector general would be looking into cost overruns at the site. The announcement opens a pathway for Kevin Warsh to be confirmed as Powell's successor. Earlier this week, Republican Senator Thom Tillis threatened to block his nomination unless the DOJ dropped its investigation. At the White House today, Press Secretary Caroline Levitt urged Tillis to move forward.

Senator Tillis should do the right thing and move to confirm Kevin Warsh as speedily as possible. He is a phenomenal candidate to lead the Fed, and we shouldn't be holding our nation's economy hostage because of a disagreement with the Department of Justice.

The DOJ investigation of Powell unfolded against the backdrop of President Trump's repeated criticism of the Fed chair for not.

[Adam Curry]

Laura.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

Lowering interest rates faster.

[Book of Knowledge]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

All right. So here we go with a little analysis. And something caught me off Guard, Can

[John C. Dvorak]

I ask you a question first?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So as Fed Federal Reserve Chairman, which is you're the head of a bunch of banks with a government sounding name.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you're not the head of the banks.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're ahead of a bank.

[Adam Curry]

You're just ahead of this committee, basically.

[John C. Dvorak]

Committee from a bunch of banks and people?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. I'm not. I'm just saying it's not a federal any. It's not a government thing.

[Adam Curry]

It's independent. It's just a name.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a club of banks.

[Adam Curry]

It's like a 24 hour cleaner, one hour photo. A one hour photo? Yeah, that's the name of the place.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it up to the actual Federal Reserve chairman himself to lower or to change interest rates? Or is that the entire federal open market committee system is the chair of that? Because it's very confusing to me. Me. The President appoints the chair, he gets confirmed by Senate, has nothing to do with the government. But can that individual, that one person, can he say, I'm changing the interest rates?

[Adam Curry]

I think he can.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, he does it in consultation. He just doesn't do it. But I think he can.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it's that guy. So that guy can wake up and say, let's make it 2%, let's make it 10.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'm pretty. Yeah, I think so. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, now back to you.

[Adam Curry]

I could be wrong, but I think so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Back to your clip.

[Adam Curry]

So now there's something noteworthy in here. See if you can spot it. This is DOJ drops Powell probe.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

The U.S. justice Department dropped its probe into Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell after admitting it lacked evidence. And voters in Virginia approved Democrats redistricting efforts. For all of that and more, we turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Capehart. That is the Atlantic's David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of always. Great to see you both. So the DOJ dropped its probe, as we said, into Fed Chair Jerome Powell, in part to clear a path for the confirmation of Kevin Warsh as his successor, but also because the federal judge effectively crippled U.S. attorney Jeanine Pirro's investigation. David, what do you see as the takeaways?

[OpenAI Spokesperson]

Who would have thought lack of evidence hurts the prosecution? You know, I think first of all, Donald Trump, like every president, Frank, frankly, would love to have a Fed chair do what he wants because he can juice the economy at the right time for the election. Trump was obviously the only one who would actually act on it. And it should be said, we should appreciate the fact the Federal Reserve System is one of the Crown jewels of our country. It was passed obviously in the Progressive era. But you look at Greenspan, what Bernanke did was miraculous. I think Powell has been an excellent Fed chair. The fact that we have these independent agencies who are doing their job job with civil servants doing their job is just something we should be proud of. And the fact that it's under threat and still under threat should still alarm us even if we've had a reprieve on this. The second point is that Thom Tillis, the senator who is retiring, who is holding up the Warsh nomination, it would be interesting to see if other senators who are not retiring start doing that kind of thing standing up to Trump now that his approvals is in the 30s and not in the 40s. And I anticipate that a few more senators will do, will discover some courage when it comes time to standing up to the administration that they have lacked for the last eight years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the thing that kind of gets me is it sounds like Brooks believes that this is a part of the government. Crown jewelry.

[Adam Curry]

Sounds like it.

[Andrew Marr]

I know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Civil servants? No, bankers. What do you mean civil servants?

[Adam Curry]

Okay, what was the thing that, the thing that caught my attention which you missed?

[John C. Dvorak]

No evidence?

[Adam Curry]

No, it's David Brooks from the Atlantic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, the so called conservative Republican from the Atlantic.

[Adam Curry]

What happened to his New York Times gig?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's an interesting question. Good observation.

[Adam Curry]

When this began, New York Times Times, he was a New York Times columnist for 22 years. And the other guy, Capehart, was a Washington Post guy. Now he's Ms. Now, which is zip, which you know, pays nothing. So I heard that and I went, what? And so I had to dig back and Brooks quit the New York Times or was ousted, I can't tell. And he wrote one of the, it's hard to say one or the other because it doesn't really say anything. But he wrote one of the going away columns on January 30th. That's how long ago it's been since he's been out of the New York Times. January 30th. And I read this column which was like a, was War and Peace. This is a column that ran over 2,800 words for an essay where he's moaning and groaning about the state of affairs in the country. People should go back and read this thing. It's terrible. Poorly, well, not going to condemn other writers, but poorly written and just rambles. It's like one of these, the type of essay you write when you, when you're not given a length, you know make it 1200 words. Make it 800 words. No, no, I'm gonna write until I drop forever. So he writes over 2, 800 words, which is a ramble.

[John C. Dvorak]

Run that thing through Chad, GPT, have it condensed. Come on. Everyone does.

[Adam Curry]

So and so he says at the end that I'm going to big, I'm taking the leap and I'm going to bigger and better things. And he ends up at the Atlantic this the Lauren Jobs left wing rag,

[John C. Dvorak]

soon to be sued out of existence possibly.

[Adam Curry]

So I just thought that was odd.

[John C. Dvorak]

I missed that one.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And so anyway, so I just taken aback. So here's the part two of this.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

The thing about that, Jonathan, is President Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sorry, K part jumps in.

[Adam Curry]

K part jumps in.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

What do you think about that, Jonathan? As President Trump's approval rating starts to soften, do you think more Republicans will use leverage wherever they can find it?

[John C. Dvorak]

One can only hope. You know, Senator Tillis, he won this particular war because he made it clear for weeks he's not voting for anybody's confirmation until that lawsuit went away. And you know, look, give the President a little bit of props here in that he just. Ok, fine, fine, okay, fine. The prosecution is over. I'm going to get my guy in and maybe he will do what I want him to do on interest rates. But we'll have to take Mr. Warsh at his word that he says that he's not going to be a puppet of the President. We'll see.

[Reporter/News Anchor]

And Powell's term ends next month. Does this episode change the dynamics around his departure or the search, the appointment, the confirmation, the expected confirmation of his successor?

[OpenAI Spokesperson]

You know, well, if you're Powell, you're worried that they're going to come after you again. And I think that's one of the reasons he's reluctant to leave, because he won't have some certain protections. But I think he kept on doing his job no matter what. And this was a very tricky economy with inflation rising. And it was not expected that he would be able to drive down inflation without a responsibility recession. And he did it. That's amazing. And I thought what Kevin Wash is a pick, the best possible pick that Trump could have had. I've seen him speak at conferences for years and he's a serious guy who a normal Republican might have picked, which is not always the case with the Trump administration substantive guy. So I think all things considered, that part of the government is in reasonably good shape and they have a gigantic

[Reporter/News Anchor]

new building,

[Adam Curry]

a big wasted money building

[John C. Dvorak]

again with the, that part of the Government.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, good point.

[John C. Dvorak]

Isn't he an economist, this Brooks character?

[Adam Curry]

No, I don't. No, no, that's the other guy that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean. No, who am I thinking of?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you're thinking of the guy who won the

[John C. Dvorak]

Nobel Prize, Whatever. Yeah, that guy.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I can't think of his name offhand.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, I mean, I think war seems to be saying that he's going to come in and he's going to lower interest rates.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we'll find out, won't we?

[John C. Dvorak]

What would happen if he just said, boom, two points off. Would that drive everybody?

[Adam Curry]

No one's doing that. If they took half a point off, it'd be a big deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why is that a big deal? What happens when you take half a point off?

[Adam Curry]

It frees up a lot of money. It lowers money, it drops inflation. It should. Good, because things get cheaper. It's cheaper to take out loans, but

[John C. Dvorak]

the main point is to lower the interest rate so that the President can refinance the country.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's your thesis.

[John C. Dvorak]

Trump's a refi guy. He knows what to do.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he definitely is a refi guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So you got besant in there. Well, we'll see. We'll see. We're at 39 trillion. That's quite a lot. You know, this is. Speaking of finances, this is a value for Value podcast. A lot of people, people may not realize that just listening. And then now these guys switch to some other segment and I would drop off after that, but this is actually where it gets kind of fun because this is the feedback portion. It goes two ways where people send value back to us for the value they received from the podcast. And that is why I'd like to say in the morning to you, the man who put The C in SPLC, the one and only, Mr. John Oops.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Carlson. In the morning, all ships and sea boosting graphene, the air subs in the water and Davis and ice out there

[John C. Dvorak]

in the morning to the trolls. Okay, 2011, 2011, listening [e-mail] for those of you who are using Podverse and say, hey, why does it say you're live? But I hear something else. I'm not sure what's going on on. We send off the live bat signal through the podcasting 2.0 system. That's what triggers your bat signal on your modern podcast app. And we do turn it off afterwards. And so that should then tell you that we're no longer live. But if it does show that, then Talk to Mitch and the guys over there at podverse. They'll straighten it out for you. Do you have your noise machines back? Is that what's happening finally?

[Adam Curry]

I got it right here.

[John C. Dvorak]

You got some stuff there. Good. You can get one of those modern podcast apps which you [e-mail] these are the ones you want for many features that are used on the no Agenda podcast, including chapters with different pieces of art that switch. You can see that in your car or just as you're looking at your. Even on the noagendashow.net, i think we have the chapters changing transcripts. All these are great innovations that we pioneered over [e-mail] and we recommend that you use them. Also the Pod Ping technology. When we update the podcast within 90 seconds, your app will have it. No more waiting around on those legacy apps to finally update something. Before I continue, how are you feeling? You're sounding pretty good today.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I didn't get a lot of sleep.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh.

[Adam Curry]

But I feel okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. How's the monitoring going? How's that the telemetry that you're hooked up to now?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. I won't find out anything until after the two weeks is up and the they and they analyze it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. But your chest is okay? It's no pain. You're still, still good?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Yeah. In fact, I'm getting out now.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're getting out? Oh, you're what? You're out around walking the neighborhood?

[Adam Curry]

I was. I went to the Mercado the other day to do some shopping in the Mexican market.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, nice.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And do you have a guide with you?

[Adam Curry]

Do you have a Brennan's around in case I keel over?

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you have a cane you can poke?

[Adam Curry]

No, I don't have a cane. Get out of my way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Look at this.

[Adam Curry]

Whoa. I'm sorry. There's an accident.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man. As part of our value for value process and system, you can support us with your time, your talent and your treasure. We appreciate all of it. We've received so many wonderful ways of help that people put back into the show. Boots on the ground. Everybody's an expert in something, so you definitely have to tell us us if we're wrong about something or there's just something you know about because it happens to be up your alley, so to speak. Also, our end of show mixers always love that they do that. There's more and more AI slot, but today's are actually quite good. They're starting to. Starting to figure out how to use it properly. And then there's the artwork, which is uploaded through another one of these great resources given to us by Sir Paul Couture. Noagendaartgenerator.com and for episode 1862, we titled it smear Campaign. There was not a lot that. That we had to look at, but we chose comic strip bloggers, FBI vodka. We just thought it was. It was simple, it was on point. There were a lot of different. What do you. Are you rummaging in a peanut bag or what are you doing?

[Adam Curry]

Macadamia nuts.

[John C. Dvorak]

You will have to talk within the next couple of minutes, just so you know.

[Adam Curry]

No, I'm not eating anything.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are you hungry? Are you hungry? Are you allowed to eat macadamia nuts?

[Adam Curry]

You can't eat too many because I think there's a phosphorus issue.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

This. I got. I, you know, one of the things I got was a dietitian I ran into finally, that knows what she's doing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, so she lets you eat something else?

[Adam Curry]

No, no, she's got. It's like they look at the blood test, they tell, you can eat this, you got to do this, you got to do that. But it's all based on. It's all new. It's based on research. It's a lot of new stuff. Is like more like Kennedy stuff stuff, as opposed to the recent out of school. I mean, the one at the hospital would come around and it sounded like she's from the 1950s, you know, with the regular. The old fashioned pyramid. Too many carbs.

[John C. Dvorak]

The old pyramid. Not even the new pyramid.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's just. It was just like, I can't hear this. And then you get somebody who knows what they're talking about. I've had dietitians before. And it's like, yeah, this doesn't sound right. Sounds like, you know, I'm old enough to remember what it was you're supposed to do in the 1940. Not, well, 40s, I wasn't born, but the 50s and 60s and it's not now. This is not the new stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Anyway, that's my little rant.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. All right, well. And how about the goop? How's your mouth? Because I know that was the biggest problem. Do you have salves and goops?

[Adam Curry]

No, I still. No, I still. My mouth will still dry out. It hasn't done that today, but it's. It's hard to. To predict why. And when.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the, and the fluids.

[Adam Curry]

Fluids.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are they. Are they still draining you?

[Adam Curry]

No, I haven't Been drained for a while, but.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you have fluid? Are you sloshing when you walk?

[Adam Curry]

I don't feel the slosh.

[John C. Dvorak]

When do they go and check? Come on. We want to update.

[Adam Curry]

This is an issue that's been. That's been brought up.

[John C. Dvorak]

What has been brought up?

[Adam Curry]

It has not been resolved, I don't think.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Taking a look at the artwork that we, that we saw.

[OpenAI Spokesperson]

Let's see.

[John C. Dvorak]

There was you with. I guess you was a very bad depiction of you with, you know, draining some crude slop into a barrel. That was no good. Jen Psaki, who looked horrible. We wouldn't use that didn't even look like her. No, it didn't really. Cedar feet. There's a lot of, you know, just stuff that was. I kind of like the puppet show by Darren o'. Neill. I think we both kind of like that. You know, the sock puppet.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, that was reasonable.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was okay. But you know, then we just, you know, we just felt like the FBI box. It was clean, it was easy, it made sense. It fit with the theme of the show and the news of the day. And I will say for today's show, I don't know if you noticed, but Mike Rylee, an actual artist, is back.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he comes every so often and drops a bomb.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he posted a number of bombs today. So we'll. But as a lot of other stuff has been put.

[Adam Curry]

There's a lot of stuff coming in today for some reason.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, it's. You know what, even if it's AI, it all comes down to the funny. You know, we're looking for a laugh. That's all we really want from you. So do your best. Then we have the treasure portion of value for value, which means you support us financially. This is the only way the show retrieves any money. All of the work that we are doing is a full time job. We do it non stop. We wind up with about 85 to 100 clips a show. We don't play them all, but we have it all just in case the conversation flows that way. And we are here to serve you as a public service and as a producer. Because all of you are producers, not listeners, not just casual listeners. You are producers. We appreciate how all of you help us, including the those who bring the third T of the time, talent and treasure. We thank everybody $50 and above. And when someone is fortunate enough to be able to Support us with $200 or more, not only will we guarantee, will we guarantee that we'll read your note. We Also give you a Hollywood credit which is Associate Executive Producer. You can use that anywhere. Hollywood credits are recognized including IMDb.com it looks great on your resume, LinkedIn anywhere. I mean Linda Lupack and I think stands by it and $300 or more and we will give you the title of executive producer along with reading your note. And we kick it off today. We do have the special Red Knights of the Order of the Heart which includes not only your knight or dame ring but also a handsome lapel pin designed by Sir Paul Couture. And we start with the Commodore Archduke of Central Florida from Winter Park, Florida. He comes in with a show number donation which has not happened in quite a while. File $1863 and he says show number donation from Commodore Archduke of Central Florida. John, glad you are back and wishing for a speedy recovery. That is beautiful.

[Adam Curry]

And he says njnk, that's right. Good man. Mike Keeler comes in from Lost Wages, Nevada with a thousand dollars and we didn't get a note. Note. And I sent him an email because he does communicate with us to see if he had a last minute note. He probably didn't pick up the email yet because it was this morning. So we're just going to give him a double up karma. He came with a thousand dollars.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, double up karma for you sir.

[Adam Curry]

You've got

[John C. Dvorak]

karma and if you send your note we'll make good on it. MFDX of Anjou coming in with $420.69. I'm sure that is a belated 420 donation. We appreciate that. And he says apologies gentlemen, I haven't been late for a 420 donation since. Well, I can't recall proof that the current cannabis strains are something something and effective. Go Habs. He says. And he requests a.

[Adam Curry]

What does that mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

I have no idea. Idea. Habs may be the. I don't know. I don't know what Go Habs means. He requests a fauci wheeze. A fauci wheeze. Then beautiful yum. And then don't eat me Hillary Clinton. So I guess it's he wants one of those. Half a second pause. Beautiful yum. Eat me Hillary Clinton.

[Adam Curry]

There you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have succeeded.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. Charles in Duncombe, Iowa. 420. There's another 420 donation. This was not solicited. It never goes anywhere when we do solicit it. But the die hards still come in and I thank them for it. Some green for some green. Jingles, Dog Karma, JCD donate and two to the head.

[John C. Dvorak]

John O' Neill from College Station, Texas Aggie Till Town 333.33 Please deduce you've been de douched. Annie adds prayers for JCD's perfect healing and recovery. May our Lord Jesus surround you with his peace and healing. Shout out to Jared thanks my friend. Please give me an F cancer as I lost my wife to brain cancer last August.

[Adam Curry]

Baz from Singapore 333.33 Glad to have John back on the show. Amazing how quickly he was back on the pod.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh no, the pod on the pod violation.

[Adam Curry]

Hope the recovery continues to go smoothly. Shout out to Adam for keeping the show going when John was out. You guys are the best. Bazaar in Singapore.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dennis Catle Tampa, FL 33333 ITM Gentlemen, this donation is a huge thank you to everyone who ordered from our site manukagold.com After Adam's shout out on Thursday's show, we couldn't believe the massive number of orders and wonderful feedback from the no Agenda listeners and we're very grateful for all the support. How about that John? Massive. We are a family owned small business with a mission to help our customers with their health and wellness through natural Manuka Honey products without overcharging. We take pride in what we do and getting a boost like this makes it feel like all the hard work has been worth it. Well, that is some true value for value. And thank you Adam for giving our Manuka Gold Relief Gel a try on your back. We're glad it helped. If it didn't I would have said nothing or I would have said but it did and I can't wait. Well, I hope I don't have to try it again, but if I have a pain I will try it again. Sincerely, Dennis Cadel Tampa, Florida thank you

[Adam Curry]

manukagold.com Jordan Goodfellow in Davenport, Florida 333 Low Donations doesn't Mean low value. Here's some coin from the profit the profits of writing the Avis Car rental short the short squeeze back down to earth. Thanks for always being the only vaccine that works on the oversized amygdala and keeps us sane. No jingles, no karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nice was Avis Carr. Is that Is that now a meme stock?

[Adam Curry]

Is that no, no, no, I don't think so. But whatever the case, he made some money playing it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good to go sir. Nate the Rogue is in Central Point, Oregon and he's our first associate executive producer with $225 and he's says don't euthanize JCD. We got to keep him around. I don't see why I would or I don't think I alluded to it. Sir Nate, the Rogue Knight of the Rogue Valley. Thank you.

[Adam Curry]

And here's the in the Indianapolis no agenda meetup, Greenwood, Indiana 22222 Switcheroo donation for Sir PBR Street Gang ITM John and Adam Sir PBR Street Gang here. Dame Trinity and I were the lucky winners of the Indy in a Meetup raffle. We want to encourage everyone to attend at least one meetup. We have attended meetups in North Carolina, Tennessee, Ohio, Kentucky, Michigan and Illinois and have to say that the Indie NA meetup is the best. Yeah, it's probably one of the best, that's for sure. Mark and Maria are the perfect hosts and are really great people. The Indie NA group is the best group. We have have met in Gitmo Nation. We continue to pray for John's healing and return to his faith. Keep fighting the good fight. Sorry for the letter to your house, Adam. It was John's fault.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like, how did these people get my. Oh yes, I remember how they got my address. Yeah. Thanks, John. Good work.

[Adam Curry]

Jingles what the True people Search yes. Jingles Prayers book. Brunetti gave me grief for that too. Jingles Prayers, Boogie boogie and Little Girl Yay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yay,

[Caroline Levitt]

You've got prayers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, coming in with 20426, which is how he rolls every single time with a 200 and date donation, it's Eli the coffee guy from Bensonville, Illinois. Another crazy gunning for Trump or staged assassination attempt. Either way, we all get tickets to the media circus. I'm just sad we won't get clips from the correspondence dinner. Well, hopefully we'll get some within the next 30 days. Hey, heads up to fellow producers. We expect to run out of our Ethiopian Guji organic soon, so get it while the getting is good. Good. Is there a run on Ethiopian Guji Organic that I'm unaware of?

[Adam Curry]

What's one of their better blends that they've made?

[John C. Dvorak]

Visit Gigawatt Coffee Roasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20 off your order and as always, stay caffeinated. Says Eli the coffee guy.

[Adam Curry]

Which leads us to Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. Thanks for finding my ad copy. It's a good thing or I would have had to have a meeting. Yeah, as far as putting your no Agenda producer status on your resume, which was the question we asked.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, we did.

[Adam Curry]

It's great if it's relevant to what you do. For instance, if you're a podcasting media in podcasting media or entertainment otherwise just included on your LinkedIn where there's plenty of real estate for extracurricular activities. The logo looks cool and you can connect with fellow no agenda producers. Now this, this knowing what to include on a resume is the difference between one that gets results and one that doesn't. For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com that's ImageMakers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs. Karma, please.

[Caroline Levitt]

Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

[Military Analyst]

Let's vote for jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you very much, Linda. Moving on, we have Dame Shell and Sir maggot from Millington, Tennessee. 157. 97. Much love and prayers for you both, John. Even though you've blocked me ages ago, I'm sending light and love to you.

[Adam Curry]

I've never blocked her and I got the note on my regular email that she sent.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you know, sometimes when you don't answer, people feel you've blocked them, which is odd. But that's. People don't understand how much email we get get. They really don't. And I miss good stuff. I'm sure I miss good stuff.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, we all do.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's. It's very difficult. Brody, Virginia Beach, Virginia. $150. There's Dame Rita Sparks, Nevada. 133.33 ITM to you, Christine Cortisol in Pensacola, Florida. 123 ITM boys. Greg P. Wadby in Peterborough, Ontario. Let me see, let me see. I've been listening a long time. Here's a hundred dollars. Thank you very much, Sir Bird dog Eric Nous. Hit him in the mouth. Back in the COVID days. You guys have really helped my wife and I. Look at everything that's presented by both MSM and independent media with entirely new eyes. Good Rebecca Ha In Franklin, Tennessee. That's where all the. All the musician celebs live lives live. 9377. And she says that we're worth more than most things she spends her money on. She loves no agenda. And both of us. 89 of my dad's 89th birthday today inspired a donation. Oh. Oh. She's a voice actor in a growing AI world. Oh, boy, that's tough. There's Sir Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina with the boob donation 8.0.08. And he is the Archduke of Luna, a lover of America and boobs. And he says God bless America, America and boobs. John Alberini comes in with $70.26. Bill McFarland, Manassas, Virginia. Double nickels on the dime. 55.1. He says. God bless. Douglas Johnson, Lithia, Florida. 55. Thank you, John and Adam, for the many years of entertainment. Ronald Castinger. Ronald Castinger. Roland Castinger. I'm sorry. In Bethesda, Maryland. 5483. Surprise night of astonishment in Yukon, Oklahoma. 54. 44. Christopher Wekselberger in Leipzig, in Germany. Yes, this is another warm invitation, everybody, for the Leipzig meetup on April 30th. Man, he's doing a good job of promoting. I hope a lot of people show up. Christian Grillich in Winter Haven, Florida. 5272. And he was very happy to see the hypocrite of the week return to the weekly Newsletter. William Wilde, 5272. David Oliver, 5272. Nathan Gwinn, Jackson, Tennessee. 5272. Sir Tyler, Anchorage, Alaska. 5149. Matthew Dropko in Elira, Ohio. $50.88. And he says continued prayers of strength for John's recovery. And here's your 50s. George Wushett in Lavernia, Texas. Brad McDonald, Mason, Ohio. John Ford McKinney, Texas. Catherine Van Taou in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. Richard Gardner. Aaron Weisberger in Bend, Oregon. And that is AW

[Adam Curry]

And Sir Yogi.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I was about to say that, but you jumped in as if I'd run a stop sign.

[Adam Curry]

You stopped and you didn't run the sign.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Sir Yogi in West Richland, Washington.

[Adam Curry]

I just think it's funny that Jay put the black line in the wrong spot.

[John C. Dvorak]

She will be beaten within an inch of her life. I tell you, this will never happen again. Thank you all so much for supporting us with your treasure. Part of the value for value system here at the no Agenda. You can support us anytime you want, any amount, for any reason. Numerology always works very well. If you just decide that you got some value. Go to noagendadonations.com and support us.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, and give Rebecca hug. A ha. A karma. She's moving to Italy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, okay. You've got karma. They have Internet money there. She can continue to support us. If you'd like to set up a recurring donation, these are very much appreciated. We don't mention under $50 for reasons of anonymity. People like to send $49.99 for that very reason, sometimes multiple times. But you could set something up for every show or every week or every Quarter or whatever. Whatever works for you. Any amount, any frequency. Noagendadonations.com support the show noagendadonations.com. Well, we're gonna make it really short and sweet today because we only have one on the list which doesn't happen very often. Rebecca hall, who just got her karma. She wishes her dad a very happy birthday. He is turning 89 years old and he still reads the paper without his glasses. Happy birthday to you from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Now, before we throw out the title changes, we actually have two notes to read regarding these. We have Sahib of Hogtown is how he started out. But after his life altering brain aneurysm experience, which I think you can get in Vegas, he said he would now like to be survivor. Survivor of aneurysm. And he says he can hear you grousing about it. I don't think so. Why would you grouse?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. I couldn't figure out. That was baffling to me too.

[John C. Dvorak]

I beat him.

[Adam Curry]

A title upgrade.

[John C. Dvorak]

He says I beat the odds big time, thanks to God and some great doctors. And this is one way to commemorate it. Okay. And then we have a title change from Steve Cashman. He says, I've been on the 3333 plan for a while and with intermittent producing donations, I realized my PayPal account, which seems to put me into Double Barren Territory. $1033.30. I also donated various meetups. So he's got a whole thing here. He says, so with your consent and where there's Sir Scott of the Armory's blessing, I would like to be dubbed Sir Steve with a V. Baron of South Austin, I believe that's okay. And he just said, oh. He says, I lost my original night ring. What? This is a. This is scandalous. Can I pay something to get a replacement? I'm sure Jay can work that out with you. And he asks if you have a Dilbert esque story about office behavior. You always seem to start them with, hey, Bill. Is Bill real? He says, is Bill real?

[Adam Curry]

There's a lot of bills.

[John C. Dvorak]

So is that a yes or a no?

[Adam Curry]

Not offhand.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. And here's your official title change music. And we congratulate Sir Cashman, who now becomes Sir Steve with a Baron of South Austin. And Sir Hebe of Hogtown, who henceforth will be known as Survivor of an aneurysm. And we're very glad that he did. Behold the order of the heart. Pure of purpose. Right from the stars in the morning. Brave and Smart. The Order of the Heart. That's right, the Order of the Hearts. Two red knights to welcome to the today who will receive that very handsome looking pin designed for you by Sir Paul Couture. And that goes to Commodore Archduke of Central Florida and Mike Keilar. Gentlemen, welcome to the Order of the Hearts. Behold the Order of the Heart. Pure of purpose. Right from the stars in the morning. Brave and smart. The Order of the Heart. I love that jingle. Hey, time for some meetups. And we have Damonette who has put together one of those fabulous meetup reports for the Indianapolis indie meetup. Hi, this is Dame Maria and Sir

[Adam Curry]

Mark and we're celebrating the best Dame wife birthday birthday ever. Gary here just giving a shout out

[John C. Dvorak]

to Mike the polymath. Happy birthday and hopefully you're here at the next one. Hi, this is syrup over the map and I just found out that Gary is not Canadian in the morning. Nada From Indianapolis. And to go off of Trevor and Gary. I'm just glad I'm not Canadian in the morning.

[Alex Jones]

John and Adam, Sir. PBR Street Gang to verify that we've got the best names and nights here

[John C. Dvorak]

at no agenda here in Indy.

[Alex Jones]

Hail to the victorious dead in the morning.

[Caroline Levitt]

Dame Trinity here in Indianapolis having a

[John C. Dvorak]

great time and I want to wish

[Caroline Levitt]

Dame Maria a very happy birthday.

[John C. Dvorak]

Happy birthday.

[Military Analyst]

Thank you.

[Interviewer]

This is Viscount of Hamilton and the

[John C. Dvorak]

two pennies here with my wife Dame Melissa. Sir Benny, just saying hello. And Dame Melissa says hello also in the morning from Dame Melissa and Dame Swaney. This is Emily, your shovel crack spook

[Caroline Levitt]

here to remind you that we are

[Reporter/News Anchor]

still in the middle of a shutdown down.

[Adam Curry]

Anyway, I'm missing that Bruce here just enjoying good company. Adios Bofos in the morning. This is Shannon.

[John C. Dvorak]

I misread the invite. I thought it was a book club. As far as book clubs.

[Adam Curry]

Close.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is foam finger number one. Hi, this is Cody Bongino. I was the server for the no Agenda group and I had a great time. They're wonderful people. Hey, happy birthday, Dame Maria. I didn't realize that I would have put you on the birthday list. List. I'm sorry about that. And nice to put your server in there. We love it when they put the servers in there. And you know, someone just listened to that meetup report. John, you know, it truly is fortunate there's one thing that I'm so happy that you do not live in Canada. Oh yeah, you would have been a candidate for the maid. They would have been like trying to get you killed so fast.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah. Don't you think you want to die, dude?

[Book of Knowledge]

Exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, we got a meetup taking place today on our show day. M one local, one spring fling. It's underway at Brewer Becker in Brighton, Michigan. On Wednesday we have the new North Toronto no agenda meetup. I guess that's a new one. It'll kick off at 7 o' clock at All Star Wings and Rubs in Vaughan. That is in Ontario. We got a lot of people in Canada. We got to keep a hold of those people because Canada is trying to kill you. On our next show day, Thursday, the North Georgia quarterly meetup, 6 o' clock at Cherry Seat Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. Also on Thursday, the see if anyone shows up meetup. This is our buddy in Saxony in Leipzig in Germany. Okay, I really want people to show up for this meetup. It'll be at 7 o' clock at Gold Hopfen. Gold Hopfen, I say in Leipzig. Come on, Germans, show up for this guy. Coming up in the month of May, we have meetups in Spavanaw, Oklahoma. That's on the 1st. Camp Hill, Pennsylvania on the 2nd. Buda, Texas on the 8th. Leiden on the 8th. Eagle, Idaho on the 9th. Santa Rosa, California on the 9th. Nashville, Tennessee on the 9th. On the 14th, Raleigh, North Carolina, Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 15th. Los Banos, California on the 16th. Hickson, Tennessee on the 23rd. And also on the 23rd, Franklin, Tennessee. Two Tennessee meetups at the same time. Squim, Washington, Washington on the 25th. And it goes through all the way into June. July. I see things in October. These are the no agenda meetups. This is where you go to hang out with people who will be very different from you, but you'll all have something in common and you will get along. You might even meet your future mate. These are connections that give you protection. These people will be your first responder in any emergency. They make you stable so you're able NoaGenDameetups.com go find one near you. If you can't at NoaGenDameetups dot com you can enter enter all the information and start one yourself. It's easy and always a party. Noagendameetups.com sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you won't be triggered on Hell Lame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

[Adam Curry]

It's like a party.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we're coming up on John's tip of the day. Everybody loves a good tip of the day. The the McMaster tip was outrageous. People really love that one of Our producers, one of our dames out there, she's been working for McMasters, I think for eight years.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's funny. And Martell Hardware sent me a note about how they get stuff from them too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait a minute. So they're just a pass through now? Is that what they are?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I guess they do wholesaling or something.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not sure. Oh, excellent. Before we do that though, we always choose the ISO for the end of the show. At this moment in the podcast, I have two. You have two. Looks like you're. You're back on a track. Do you want to start or you want me to go? Go. Okay, here we go. Comedic gold. I'm not a fan of that one. I think this is pretty good. We rated A plus plus plus A.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. I have two of the two. A variation on a theme. These are both the same with a variation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you mean you. You change the temperature on the AI voice?

[Adam Curry]

No, I just changed the wording.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Dad Gummet, that show was riveting. Wow. He said it in such a riveting manner too. It's amazing. Let's try the second one. Dad Gummet, that show was riveting. Donate, people. Yeah, there you go. We'll have to use that one because we need to remind you to donate after you hear the tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.

[Adam Curry]

So this, this tip stems from the fact I'm staying at my daughter's place with Brennan, her husband, and they don't have a grill.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh.

[President Trump]

What?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, this a Mimi. What?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's unamerican.

[Adam Curry]

Even Mimi wouldn't couldn't buy. Believe it. So I'm recommending a grill. This could be used for barbecue, but it's a grill that can be used for barbecue. It is. I discovered this product probably in the 80s when I was in Georgia because I think the company's in the south someplace. And it's a company called Char Griller, not to be confused with Char Broil. Char Griller is a company that makes. That makes grills and they make one particular one, their real classic one which is I'm recommending as a tip of the day. And it's called the it and it's available at Lowe's, supposedly exclusively. Although you can order it from Char Griller directly from their website. You can look up Char Griller and Char Griller, the pro deluxe charcoal grill grill with an 850 square inch burner. The thing that. Or not burner, but cooking surface. The thing that's noteworthy about this being the perfect size, you can use it as a smoker by pushing the coals to one side and smoking on the other side of the thing. But the kicker is the fact that they have cast iron. A cast iron grate for cooking. You cook on cast iron. Not the cheesy little. Little crappy little things that.

[John C. Dvorak]

That wire. The wire stuff the wire. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

And so the cast. And this is these. They run around 200 bucks.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's not. That's not expensive. That's.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's not expensive at all. Good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Best price.

[Adam Curry]

Now, there's a couple of things you should note.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, can I ask you. Don't you have to season that. Don't you have to season the cast iron before you use it?

[Adam Curry]

You know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you don't believe in that, do you?

[Adam Curry]

Mixed feelings. Couple of things to note. Lowe's has it as an exclusive. Exclusive, but supposed. Exclusive.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exclusive.

[Adam Curry]

And so that. And the competition is Home Depot. So if you want a home. Home Depot has the exact same product called the 21. I think the 21 30. 30. It's pretty much the exact same product called the Blazer. And it's slightly cheaper, but it's the same thing. And the only difference seems to be cosmetic. And instead of having wood shelves or shelves on the outside, you can put stuff on the shelves instead of being wood. They're metal and slightly different looking. But from what I can tell, still got the cast iron grate and it still should cook pretty much the same way. Now, I've been using these. I've gone through three of these personally.

[John C. Dvorak]

You mean that they don't last or you're just that.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I don't put a tarp on them and I let them rot.

[John C. Dvorak]

You let them rot?

[Adam Curry]

They last about five years. If you let them rot and you get a new one, you know, it's no big deal. You can paint them, you know, to keep them kind of in good shape, but. And you know, they get kind of beat up after a while. Anyway. Anyway. But this grill, the Char griller grill, is fabulous. And the one at Home Depot, which is the Blazer, which I would take a look at, is currently on sale for 1:49, which is a steal.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a tip within the tip. Yeah, double tip. Wow. Well, that is. That is a. That is a good deal. Can you have it shipped or you have to pay pick it up?

[Adam Curry]

You can actually have it shipped. And in fact, you can if you order from the factory. The. Currently, if you go to the website For Char griller. You will. They'll ask you, would you like to get on a newsletter? This will give you free shipping. So you sign up for the newsletter. You should be able to get the thing shipped free. And they're pretty heavy. I think the first one I bought it had shipped.

[John C. Dvorak]

And is there some assembly required?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, yeah, that is the piece I always hate.

[Adam Curry]

Now you can. If you get them from. If you get them from. I know too much. If you get them from Lowe's, you can click a box and they'll assemble it for you.

[John C. Dvorak]

You do know a lot. When's the last time you. You used one? You used anything outside?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I have not since the operation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I bet you can't wait to

[Adam Curry]

get back to your cooking over fire like a man.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go, everybody. John's tip of the day. You can find him at no agenda fun.com and tipoftheday.net for you and me,

[Interviewer]

just the chip with JCD and sometimes

[Adam Curry]

Adam, created by Dana Burnetti.

[John C. Dvorak]

And again, we come to the end of our broadcast, but you want to stick around if you're listening on your modern podcast app or no agenda stream.comunrelenting is coming up next. And this is an episode with a live kebab extraction. It's Sir Gene and Darren o'. Neill. You never know what you get with those boys. Never know. Also, I think some really good end of show mixes. We have, let me see, we got Robert Sokos. How do I pronounce his name? Robert Skolnicki. Skolnicki. There we go. Robert Skolnicki. We have the dude named Ben named Chris. We have just Baker. And that's it, I think, for this particular episode. So those, the end of show mixes, we of course will be back on Thursday and we look forward to helping you understand what's going on in the world once again as we break down and deconstruct all media. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country, a very balmy and misty Freddy Riverburg, Texas in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from Refinery Row in Northern California, I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

Please join us here again same time, same place on Thursday for your no Agenda show. Until then, remember us atnoen Agenda donations dot com. Adios mo fos a hooey, hooey and such. Adam Curry pod Father John C. Dvorak.

[Jonathan Capehart]

Buzz Two podcasters just getting by.

[John C. Dvorak]

They have the technology. They use your donations to make the best podcast in the universe. AI is ruining the art Already ruined

[OpenAI Spokesperson]

the end of show mixes.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's ruining everything. It's ruining our lives. Oh, it's slop but I love it. Neolite says the humans had the rich now it's bits and bites Crossed his arms and smirked this track is slop. Oh, my beer. Adam, watch the needle drop. AI Slop is here to stay they

[Alex Jones]

want more slop give me slop.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love it. Something Eddie couldn't play. Hey, I I love it called a slop. It's called AI Swap.

[Adam Curry]

This is a Luddite thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

A mutant party track Classic rock, bones, ham and organ through a neural net Frequencies that nobody's owned Sounds the old world hasn't heard yet A ice lop is here to stay Bow down to your old lords today. This show will never end.

[Military Analyst]

Walked into the clinic for a routine check they put a weird sticker right on my neck Collecting the data through a little white pad A decal tracker for the good and the bad I pulled out my phone and they started to laugh what is this relic? Said the medical staff that gave me an answer Android said mine was too old While I'm strapped with gear and doing what I'm told All the china doctors walking through the door she's in charge of the entire floor she doesn't look at charts she doesn't look at me Just adding another day for a reason I can't see air she's messed up tight hiding every stair while I'm stuck in the ER gasping for air I'm reading the riot act I've had enough I'm calling her out while she starts to huff I told her straight with Brandon right there you're a lousy doctor and you just don't care no concern for the patient, no interest at all Just a long series of things making me feel small she pushed back a little from behind the lace but you can't see the truth on a masked up face I shoot her away I sent her to the hall Now I'm waiting for the nurse to take the call the nurse came in and I started to vent gossip in the room about where the time when she asked you wanna file a formal report? I took five beats before my retort she rushed to the console said tell me it all we're writing the chapter on this doctor's fall it's obvious now, it's clear as the light that something with her just isn't, you know It's a pattern of behavior a medical shape though she's a problem doctor yeah, the nurse agreed Total disregard for patient in need just a problem Dr. It's written in the file masting in different mile after mile yeah she's a problem doctor

[John C. Dvorak]

regulations puked up to the last missile falls and the smoke finally clears but Democrats bobbing fingers hoping I ran dragged straight past the fourth of July beers praying for that midterm sweeping impeachment bonanza supreme Trump advanced Ruby yo that signed whole tickets strapped to the guillotine dream Homer's loctite shipping lanes choked fertilizer crude and helium decline global shortage and some say this crisis got a hidden design California circus missed post election Democrats stacked in deep in the clown car powering choice chaos giving Republicans a blue Quinn shot for a while SPLC scandal exploding left rushing in to defend the fraud operation punish from the 90s back in the ball screaming I told you so with celebration new evidence just dropped Judas got his dirty silver wired from the SPLC account no agenda in the morning.

[Adam Curry]

The best podcast in the universe adios

[John C. Dvorak]

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