1870 - "VBS"

Summary

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No Agenda Show – Episode 1870 "VBS"

May 21, 2026
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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Episode Overview

This episode of No Agenda delves into the latest political and media developments in the U.S. and globally, with main themes including the deconstruction of mainstream news coverage, the fallout from key Republican primary races, inside baseball on the Trump administration's maneuverings (from press briefings to slush funds), narratives around the Cuba/Florida political situation, and the persistent cultural anxieties stoked by both legacy and social media. The show maintains its signature skeptical, irreverent, and conversational tone throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Media Tease Dissection: Nightly News Format

• The hosts open with a satirical play on nightly news anchors, mocking the dramatic sequencing of headlines.
• Critique of the ABC News opener’s jumpy structure:
  • Adam Curry [01:33]: "He had to start it over. Why didn't he start off with the Muslim thing and then he jumped to the woman falling in the manhole and goes back to the other headline."
• They discuss news producers’ tendency to sow anxiety and fear—“make you feel like crap”—through headline stacking.
• There’s brief praise for NBC's Tom Yamas and a proposal to compare TV networks’ "teases" in future episodes.

2. Press Briefing Upset: VP J.D. Vance Steps In

• The Vice President, J.D. Vance, fills in for Press Secretary Caroline Levitt; hosts note this is unusual, perhaps trendsetting.
  • Adam Curry [07:10]: "I've never seen the vice president take it over."
• Clips played demonstrate Vance’s proficiency and calm handling of the press, with comparisons to past VPs and press secretaries.
  • Co-host [09:19]: "I mean, expert. Expertly done. I mean, it doesn't matter what he says. He's just, he's just."
  • Adam Curry [09:25]: "It's so smooth talker."
• Discussions contemplate whether the ability to handle press might become a new VP requirement.
• Notable contrast between Vance’s style and more combative, adversarial previous secretaries (e.g., Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Jen Psaki, Karine Jean-Pierre).

3. Thomas Massie, Trump, and the Kentucky Scandal

• The fall of Congressman Thomas Massie is dissected:
  • NPR, as well as the hosts’ own inside sources, suggest that a confluence of factors led to his ouster: Trump’s lack of support, AI-driven smear campaigns, and allegations about Massie’s private life.
  • Adam Curry [17:07]: "It was a smear campaign ... had an affair with at least two women ... he was screwing Lauren Boebert."
  • John C. Dvorak [26:04]: Reads from a Kentucky "boots on the ground" letter speculating that the scandal and Trump’s maneuvering were meant to take out both Massie and Boebert.
  • The hosts debate whether mainstream media ignored the key events because of algorithmic bubbles or intentional sidelining.

Notable Quotes

• Adam Curry [18:13]: "If you're a politician, yes. It's at least two years [before remarrying after a spouse dies]."
• Co-host [23:51]: "It did come because Tina told me. ... So one of the big MAGA ladies heard about it. So it was definitely in the mag... in the Magalgo."

The Israel Lobby Angle

• Discussion about pro-Israel lobbying’s role in Massie’s primary loss.
  • John C. Dvorak [27:14]: “Most expensive primary ... purely from the Israel Lobby ... because Thomas Massie is the most vocal critic of the Israel Lobby in Congress.”

4. Tucker Carlson's Interview in Israel: Trump, Netanyahu, and the Iran War

• A long segment dissects Tucker Carlson’s Channel 13 (Israel) interview, in which he critiques Trump for being drawn into an Iran conflict.
  • Tucker Carlson [34:22]: "What happened was the war with Iran, which I don't believe serves the interests of the United States."
  • Accusations that Netanyahu/government donors effectively “controlled” U.S. actions.
  • The hosts critique Tucker’s rhetorical devices, his simplified definition of “control,” and point out his slippery narrative tricks.
• They further highlight the audience's skepticism toward foreign entanglements and note a rising sentiment against endless wars.

5. San Diego Mosque Shooting: Narrative Analysis

• The hosts play and break down how ABC, NBC, CBS, and MSNBC reported on a mosque shooting in San Diego.
• They discuss language cues (e.g., repeated lines that the shooters “didn’t discriminate who they hated”) and the media's focus on “online radicalization”, noting the all-too-familiar playbook of blame toward SSRIs, Discord, and internet culture.
• Discussion of how cultural replacement anxiety is ginned up online and offline.
  • Adam Curry [58:52]: "This guy is spun up. But this is the feeling... that is being created online."
  • The use of coded language like “heritage Americans” is called out as dog-whistle politics.
• Broader commentary: the episode pursues how media portrayal, online subcultures, and social media algorithms shape perceptions and, sometimes, violent actions.

6. U.S.-Cuba Escalation: Castro Indictment & Florida Politics

• Major segment explores the DOJ’s late-breaking indictment of Raul Castro over the 1996 “Brothers to the Rescue” shootdown.
• The hosts debate its political motivation, speculating it’s tied to Florida’s Cuban-American vote and long-standing CIA goals for regime change.
  • Adam Curry [71:21]: "...Trump finally getting around to completing the Bay of Pigs operation that Kennedy chickened out on."
  • The possible “false flag” with Cuban drones is considered a pretext for further US involvement (potential attacks on Guantanamo or even Miami Beach).
  • They listen to clips from pundits, local politicians, and analysis asserting the move is intended to “fix” the historical CIA grievance over Cuba.
  • Discussion of rumors around Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance as a political tag-team (potential president/VP ticket), especially as Florida is secured for the GOP.

7. Other Political Storylines & Scandals

• Criticism and analysis of Trump’s $1.8 billion “anti-weaponization” fund for January 6th defendants and other political casualties. This settlement followed a $10 billion suit against the IRS.
  • Audio clips show the ambiguity about eligibility for the fund and bipartisan discomfort with the move.
  • John C. Dvorak [127:27]: "He screwed up there. We're trying to give money, I mean, not give money, compensate, trying to give..."
• The “Trump Blind Trust” is not actually blind and is run by his sons; 3,700 trades in the last year is flagged as evidence of high-frequency algorithmic trading, not executed by hand.
• Online betting “insider trading” scandals tied to political events and White House connections via Trump Jr. are highlighted as problematic optics.

8. Culture & Tech: AI, Higher Education, and the American Labor Market

• Review of cultural anxiety around AI, jobs, and education:
  • Commencement speakers get booed for AI optimism.
  • The hosts encourage listeners not to go to college but to learn trades: "Don't go to college. Whatever you do, don't go to college."
  • AT&T segment about hiring for fiber optics jobs without college degrees.
• Google’s Gemini Spark AI assistant gets roasted for being cloud-only and draped in hollow marketing.

9. China: Security, Students, and Espionage Paranoia

• Segment describes U.S. diplomatic protocols to guard against Chinese espionage (burner phones, trashing all gifts, treating everything as bugged).
• Megan Kelly and Glenn Greenwald’s anti-China rants are cited, with the hosts recalling that Chinese students have been a campus fixture for decades—even before current political animosities.

10. Sanctions & Geopolitical Finance

• Treasury Secretary Scott Besson’s “Economic Fury” program against Iranian and UK-based financial networks is discussed, with a focus on how stablecoins (USDT/Tether) can be frozen, while “real crypto” like Bitcoin is more resistant.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Adam Curry [47:15]: "It's experiment by JCD comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC." (On the three-by-three comparison framework)
• Adam Curry [71:21]: "[Trump is] finally getting around to completing the Bay of Pigs operation that Kennedy chickened out on."
• Adam Curry [160:43]: "Wood screw lubricant from Half Blind Rabbit. ... It's better than beeswax. It's better than soap."
• John C. Dvorak [98:34]: "This is more significant than people realize. ... They're cutting off these networks and it all goes back to the [British] brick. All of it."
• Co-host [120:04]: "[Google's AI move] is not the future of computing, I can tell you that right now. Not with that kind of money."

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Important Timestamps

• 00:42 Adam & John deconstruct TV news teases and anxiety-mongering
• 06:32 VP J.D. Vance's press briefing and trendsetting discussion
• 17:07 Massie lost in Kentucky – roots of the scandal
• 27:14 Debate over the Israel Lobby's impact on GOP primaries
• 34:22–46:36 Tucker Carlson’s fiery interview in Israel; Trump, Iran, foreign policy puppet accusations
• 47:15–61:17 Mosque shooting coverage (ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC) breakdown; cultural replacement, online radicalization, and “heritage Americans”
• 63:14–77:43 Cuba storyline: Raul Castro indicted; U.S. military moves; speculation about CIA/Florida politics
• 79:45+ Texas hospital's transgender care settlement & local politics (Ken Paxton/Cornyn discussion)
• 85:20+ Trump’s “blind trust” and financial ethics questions
• 90:40+ Insider trading via prediction markets during the Iran war
• 104:23+ China summit: U.S. security paranoia
• 107:45+ Blue-collar jobs versus higher education, AI in the workplace
• 114:22+ Google IO & Gemini Spark: AI cloud melodrama
• 121:14+ Trump’s $1.8B “slush fund” for Jan 6th and anti-weaponization
• 132:53+ (Comey interview) Use of DOJ as a political weapon: hypocrisy and precedent

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Final Thoughts

The episode closes with the classic No Agenda donations segment and some playful banter about vacation, art, “babes,” and even home repair tips (with John’s “screw lube” pro-tip).

The show, as always, demonstrates a relentless skepticism toward mainstream and social media narratives and a willingness to engage in speculation, theory-craft, and rollicking debate about power, culture, and the media’s role in shaping public understanding.

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“These two geniuses nailed it again.” (Listener ISO, [159:31])

In the Morning!

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Transcript

[Adam Curry]

Flying saucers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's Thursday, May 21, 2026. This is your award winning Gibbonation Media Assassination Episode 1870.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is no Agenda, sniffing out the

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

new strain and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country right here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[Adam Curry]

And from Refinery row where there's no Ebola, I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, that's what you think, but it's coming. The Ebola's coming everywhere. It's coming, it's coming. I wanted to do something we haven't done in a while, if that's okay.

[Adam Curry]

Flying saucers.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No, not flying saucers. No, we used to do this. In fact, I think you used to do it, but I figured I'd do it now. Let's listen to the headlines as brought to us by David Muir. To tease the wonderful world we live in and then wonder why people don't feel good about themselves.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tonight, several breaking stories. The two teenagers in body armor allegedly charging into that Islamic center. And in New York City tonight, the woman who plunged into a searing manhole. A witness saying she was screaming, I'm dying. First tonight, the breaking developments. Late today, police revealing it was two heavily armed teenagers in body armor carrying shotguns, rifles and handguns into that Islamic center. Children not far away, the security guard who took them on in New York City.

[Adam Curry]

Stop it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

What? I'm playing.

[Adam Curry]

He had to start it over. Why didn't he start off with the Muslim thing and then he jumped to the woman falling in the manhole and goes back to the other headline.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Hey, man, he's going to make you feel like crap. That is his job.

[Adam Curry]

But I've never heard this before where they've gone from topic to new topic to old topic.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, now that you.

[Adam Curry]

Unless I misheard something.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, let's listen again by several breaking stories. The two teenagers in body armor allegedly charging into that Islamic. And in New York City tonight, the woman who plunged into a searing manhole. A witness saying she was screaming, I'm dying. First tonight, the breaking developments.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Okay, so it's like he's teasing the top two stories, which is teenagers killing Muslims, then the woman falling into a searing manhole. Not just a manhole, a searing manhole. Unless that's something I'm not aware of. And then he goes into the rundown. But the rundown includes a lot more. I think we're spending too much time on it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, first of all, I think that's bad form, but okay, just let it play. I'm not gonna interrupt anymore.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I'm not saying I disagree. I agree. It's bad form night.

[John C. Dvorak]

Several breaking stories. The two teenagers in body armor allegedly charging into that Islamic center. And in New York City tonight, the woman who plunged into a searing manhole. A witness saying she was screaming, I'm dying. First tonight, the breaking developments. Late today, police revealing it was two heavily armed teenager and body armor carrying shotguns, rifles and handguns into that Islamic center. Children not far away, the security guard who took them on. In New York City, the horrific and deadly scene in midtown Manhattan. A woman opening her car door and disappearing down an open manhole, falling into the intense heat below. The street service. How this happened tonight, the tornadoes touching down, damaging winds and severe storms set to hit again this evening. And records broken in Philadelphia. Intense heat in New York City and Boston. Ginger Zee is here. Alarming breaking news tonight about the deadly Ebola outbreak. An American doctor infected now raced to another country for emergency help. The case is now spiking. Tonight, the extraordinary order from the Justice Department barring the IRS from investigating President Trump, his sons and their companies and their taxes. Tonight, the murder case in the Northeast. A man convicted of killing his brother and his brother's wife and children setting their home on fire, then setting his own home on fire, his family inside to make it look like the whole family had been targeted. What the judge has now decided tonight, major primaries being watched in this country. President Trump taking aim at one of his top political targets, Republican Congressman Thomas Massie. We're all going to die.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I'm telling you. They, they had to dig deep to get the guy who burned the family. I mean, hey, we need more horrible things for the TE's. David wants more horrible things. Give him more horrible things to talk about.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you know, if you're going to play, the technique here should be to play now, you should play Tom Yamas's version of the same thing. And I think that NBC, because I've been, I was thinking about this earlier too, these, these openers and I, I think NBC does the best job. I think NBC is the, is the leader in the news business. I think Tom Yamas does a terrific job and I think they're, they're opening teases superior to abc.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I will make sure I have one on Sunday. I'll make sure that we have the superior. In fact, from now on it'll be known as the superior tease from Tom Yamas. You're probably right. But this was, you know, this was

[Adam Curry]

good because for one thing, he repeats himself here.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

On two stories. He brings in the Muslims, he brings in the woman falling in the hole. Then he brings back the Muslims and brings back the woman falling in the hole.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Do you think?

[Adam Curry]

And then he goes to tornadoes.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Just throws in a tornado. Do you think the woman was on her phone?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, probably.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I just have a thought, you know, like.

[Adam Curry]

But I didn't know there were that many manholes that close to the curb.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, I remember living in New York, you'd have these manholes covers that were just steaming and, you know, smoke or steam. Steam arising. Steam would be coming from time to time. We had the exploding manholes. I'm sure we.

[Adam Curry]

That was always the best. Yeah, we had a kaboom.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Exploding manhole. I thought personally that it was interesting, the choice of them saying, president Trump remarkable. IRS may never audit President Trump or his children. Which is not really the headline of the story, because the story is the slush fund for Trump allies. That's the story.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we've got clips of that.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

But to me, I just wanna get a start on this. I thought the biggest story to me, which no one played as a story, was this.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

We've been listening to Vice President J.D. vance holding a White House press briefing, filling in for Press Secretary Caroline Levitt. Vance started with Iran, saying the administration has the ability to restart a military campaign, but adding, that's not what President Trump or Iran want and that both sides are attempting to negotiate in good faith.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

So not the story about Iran, but the fact that Vance was filling in for Carolyn Levitt and he was fantastic. I mean, that should be his job. He should be talking to the press every single day. Did you see any of that?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I did. I saw the whole thing.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I thought I was.

[Adam Curry]

And it's kind of surprising because normally when the press secretary's not there to talk, the associate or assistant or whoever it is, as a secondary person, they get the gig, they get together. I've never seen the vice president take it over.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

And it was great. He's like, yeah, hey, I got one or two of these things. Let me see. I just got two clips of him expertly, I would say, managing the press corps.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, Garrett, you have your hand up. Garrett.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Garrett, you had your hand up. It's the vice President of the United States.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Hey.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Who's had their hand up? Do you need to go to the rest? You need to go potty? Okay.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Rest.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah. All right, here we go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, Garrett, you have your hand up, Garrett. That's right.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That's Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Vice President. Midterms are well underway. You've got voters go to the polls

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

in six states today.

[John C. Dvorak]

You and the president ran on a platform that included no new wars, cutting gas prices, cutting inflation. What do you say to people who are going to the polls today and who feel like those promises are unkept? Well, I'd say a few things. First of all, we've delivered great wins for the American people. We ran on delivering tax cuts to the American people, which we did the largest tax cuts in American history. We ran on cutting taxes, particularly on people who were working on overtime, working on tips. We cut taxes for those Americans. We ran on the promise of bringing investment back into the United States of America, that rather than factory closures, we were going to have factories opening. And we've seen both construction jobs in manufacturing, but also manufacturing jobs have great rebounds under the Trump administration and under our leadership. We are very aware that because of what's going on in the Middle east, gas prices have gone up and a lot of Americans are struggling because of that. Our view is that it is a temporary increase. We're taking a number of steps to try to push back against it and try to ensure that Americans are paying as little at the pump as possible. But I feel quite confident after we've taken care of business in the Middle east, those prices are going to come down. And there have been a lot of prices, as you know, a lot of prices from rent to housing, where we still got a lot of work to do. But we do see some real progress made across the economy on pricing, but also on people's jobs.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I mean, expert. Expertly done. I mean, it doesn't matter what he says. He's just, he's just.

[Adam Curry]

It's so smooth talker.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's so much better than having the press secretary. I like Carolyn Levitt, but who cares? She's an in between person. Vance is the.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this could be. Well, not you. You brought this in. And as your top story. Well, I will say that it's possible that this may be a trend.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Why not? It makes so if you can get it.

[Adam Curry]

But you have to have a vice president that can talk. Well, as, for example, Pence couldn't do this.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Do you think Kamala Harris, he was stiff.

[Adam Curry]

He was a prick.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Kamala Harris couldn't do it either.

[Adam Curry]

She couldn't do it in a million years.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No. But now it'll be a requirement for vice president. I think the vice president.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is the, the, this is where you're jumping the gun here, I think. But I'm thinking it's possible that it could be a requirement for vice president. It's possible that this could be a trend.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

One more clip.

[Adam Curry]

Because it works.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yes. Let's hear one more from him.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm gonna call on John. I'm just gonna start calling John Ross. John.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

John. I'm gonna be calling my favorites. Who's the teacher's pet?

[Adam Curry]

John.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

John Ross. Not you.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Not that John. John.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

John Ross. Stand up, John Ross.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm calling John. I'm just gonna start calling John Ross. Johnny Ross. Daily Mail. Yes, great to see you.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, you're good. You too.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

So Trump initially said that the war would last six weeks.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

We are now.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's been going on for 11 weeks and three days.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Also, what Carolyn Levitt always does is she always says the fake news media has. Well, you know, as many of you reported in this room, she's so adversarial. And here. Van.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, she's. Yeah, she's kind of like Trump picks these women. Sarah Huckabee was the same way.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

You remember? Yes, Adversarial.

[Adam Curry]

She was really mean to everybody.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah. And this is. Everyone's kind of like, hey, it's jd. Substitute teacher. Jd.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That's good. We can ask him anything. He doesn't care. He's not gonna slam for that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Your message to the American people as to why it's gone on so long and it hasn't ended yet? Well, first of all, the President said it's going to be a short term operation, and I think that is proven out to be true. The active period of conflict lasts about five, five and a half weeks.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Active conflict. Hello, people, get it right.

[John C. Dvorak]

We've been in the ceasefire where we're trying to get a negotiated settlement that gets the American people the things that we need for our national security. So, yeah, I've said before that we're going to go one of two options here. We're going to have a good settlement that actually gets the American people what they need. We're going to go back to a kinetic operation. Obviously, the President prefers to get that settlement. I think the Iranians prefer to get that settlement. But regardless of what direction the President ultimately goes down, whatever he ultimately decides, I think it's important for the American people to know two things. Number one, it will be for their security and their prosperity. That's why we're doing this. And number two, it will not. This is not going to be the sort of thing that lasts Forever. I think a lot of Americans, especially in my generation, who are worried about forever, endless conflicts. We have to remember, I think you said 11 weeks. A big chunk of that has been a ceasefire. This is not a forever war. We're going to take care of business and come home. That's what the President's promised and that's exactly what he's going to deliver.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I mean, outstanding. I mean, remember, we had Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Jean Pierre. We had her. We had. Who else?

[Adam Curry]

She's just a liar.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

We had Psaki. Yeah. This is so much more entertaining. He is making the press briefing exciting again. And I. I only caught it because all four screens on the quad were running it. That never happened.

[Adam Curry]

They were probably running it because they thought they screw up.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Maybe. I think everyone was just surprised by it. And I just. I just thought, yeah, I'll step in. She just had a baby. He should do it for a couple weeks. Give that girl some time off. I'm all for it. It's much better. Very exciting. I'm very excited.

[Adam Curry]

Well, my top story is the one I wrote up in the newsletter.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And that is. I have one clip, which is Massey. The top story. Massey losing.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

And Massey's good.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And no matter what, anybody, I don't care why. I'm asking you why there was a scandal. It could be. We have a letter from one of our boots on the ground guys who knows Lauren Boebert, and he wrote a very nice note in. You probably have it there.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I actually don't think I have it handy. I had to close my email.

[Adam Curry]

It's familiar. Okay.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, I can.

[Adam Curry]

Excuse me.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Don't die on me. Tell me the scandal first.

[Adam Curry]

I'm getting there. I have. I'll get it. I'll bring it up. But play this clip because this is the story. It seems to me that the fact that they. They refused, all the media, including Fox, refuses this to discuss, which I talked about in the newsletter in detail, the scandal about Massie, which dropped him in May 8. He was 71% chance, according to the. The betting polls, 71% chance of winning the election within a week. He dropped it to like 34, 31 or something really low or 41. That didn't happen because of Trump.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Trump has been against this guy for a long time.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I don't think. By the way, I don't think I got that email that you're referring to. I don't see it anywhere interesting.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, it was. You were on it. But I'll get It. But meanwhile.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yes, I'm sorry to interrupt. So tell us what the scandal is.

[Adam Curry]

The scandal is that Massie. Well, let's play this clip, and I'll tell you what the scandal is.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massie is the latest Republican lawmaker to lose his seat for crossing President Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

The race was another display of the president's hold on Republican voters. This morning. When asked about not endorsing incumbents, Trump said he'd spoken to Senate leadership on the Republican side.

[Adam Curry]

Some of them don't know how to win.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know how to win. I think I've proven that, haven't I?

[Adam Curry]

Massey lost his primary to Trump backed candidate Ed gowering by nearly 10 percentage points last night. That was just one race among six states that held elections Tuesday, the busiest

[John C. Dvorak]

primary day of the midterms. Democrats in Georgia and other states continue to see large voter turnout, which could

[Adam Curry]

be a good sign for them in November's midterm elections.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

NPR's Stephen Fowler stayed up late last night to watch these results and joins us here early this morning. Good morning, Stephen. Did Massie lose because he went against

[John C. Dvorak]

some of Trump's policies?

[Guest/Interviewee]

Yes and no. I mean, Thomas Massie clashed with Trump

[John C. Dvorak]

over the Epstein files. He actually led to the release of the files.

[Guest/Interviewee]

He clashed with Trump over the Iran war and foreign conflicts. He opposed Trump's one big beautiful bill. So Trump did back a challenger, former Navy SEAL officer Ed Gel Rhine. And what's the latest example of Trump

[John C. Dvorak]

taking out Anyone who isn't 100% loyal

[Guest/Interviewee]

in the last year or so? The last time an incumbent lost was Saturday with Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy, but Massie kept it close. I will also note that yesterday Trump endorsed Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton to oust incumbent Senator John Cornyn ahead of next Tuesday's runoff. You're already hearing some Republicans there fret if Paxton wins because polls indicate his victory would make the general election race more competitive, especially in what's shaping up

[John C. Dvorak]

to be a wave year for Democrats.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Okay, okay.

[Adam Curry]

So what happened was. And it was all over the impression.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It was all over X. Everyone was.

[Adam Curry]

It was all over X. And I think it was. It was all over. I think it was on TikTok, but. But I think it was algo driven. And so I'm, I'm beginning to think that the people who do run npr, they are getting feeds that are different than feeds that you get. I get. And people that would be involved with the Massey people in Kentucky that voted against Massie. And it was a smear campaign that indicated that once Massie's wife died. He had an affair with at least two women. One of them turned on him and said that he was turned into a complete horn dog and he was screwing Lauren Boebert, immediately thinking she's the hottest thing in Congress.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Can I just. Just give you a little different perspective on that? So his wife was. Was she. Was she. Wasn't she ill? Did she die suddenly?

[Adam Curry]

Died, yeah, she died suddenly.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I'm just.

[Adam Curry]

Well, give me this perspective.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, no, I. I was going to say that you know, a guy who. It's possible that a lot is possible, but when you're released from something that you might not have been happy in, that's what you do.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but that's fine and dandy. That's not what you do when you're a congressman.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

What do you mean?

[Adam Curry]

You don't let this kind of dirt come out because it makes you look like a douchebag dog.

[Guest/Interviewee]

He's just a man.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

He's just a man.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And these are just voters and anyways, supposedly had a phone, a special burner phone that he called a boner phone.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

And there was a show title, Boner Phone.

[Adam Curry]

And there was. And so this, because he was calling all these girls, and then he got married immediately. He was married within a year. That was very pretty girl.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That was pretty quick. I agree. That was.

[Adam Curry]

And that was not good.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Hold on, hold on. You're steamrolling me. What is the appropriate time between the death. Just asking for a friend.

[Adam Curry]

If you're a politician, yes. It's at least two years.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's 24 months. Okay. All right. I think it's reasonable now for some.

[Adam Curry]

Just some jerk on the street who doesn't care one way or the other, you can get married the next month. Nobody gives a crap about it. But if you're a politician, especially if you're running against Trump, trying to get you out, you don't do any of this stuff. You just stay by, you know, you lead a clean life. It's not that hard to lead a clean life. Of course, I'm old, so I can say that. But it's not that hard. And if you're a politician, that's what you want to do. So this came out and it all. And it was. And there were. There were some AI videos showing the boner phone and him talking to it and Boebert on there, flirting with him. That kind of thing showed up in certain feeds and not other feeds. But it showed up in my feed, and I think it showed up in the feed of the voters. And this was never discussed by anybody. FOX didn't discuss it. Abc, NBC, cbs, nobody discussed the scandal. And I just played a clip from npr and they're boneheaded about Trump, didn't like him. So that's why he got out again May 8th. He was 71% chance of winning May 8th. That's not that long ago. And so next thing. So the rugs pull out from under him within a one or two week period. That's how it happened. And nobody's discussing it. I find it ridiculous that the media is so oblivious to this.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, do you think they're oblivious?

[Adam Curry]

That's my point.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Do you think they're oblivious or do you think that it's more important for them to. To say Trump did it, which he did.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, this is the question. This is the question I could ask you. Were they oblivious because they weren't in the algo, which I think is possible because they're not very aggressive about. Some of these people won't even watch Fox News.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, yeah, Massie was on. He was going on MSNBCow and CNN. He was, for all intents and purposes on their side of the Epstein argument. And I think the Epstein released the Epstein files. All files except for the ones that were under investigation. That was his law. I think that's the only bill he's ever gotten passed. I think it's the only one. And his courtship with Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene. He put himself in the enemy camp. And, and the way I see it, Trump went. We have to prove. We have to send a message. We have to send a message.

[Adam Curry]

May 8th. 71%. That's what I'm saying. I think he could have beaten it because Rand Paul does it all the time. Rand Paul's in Kentucky, same state. They're contrarian there. They don't care. I don't think Trump's influence had as much to do with it as the smear. Well, that's what I'm thinking because of the nature of Kentucky, everybody. Rand Paul and this guy's been reelected over and over. Let me read from Mark's note. He thinks the whole thing was created. I think it may have been a creation too. The story was easy to manufacture and it killed two birds with one stone. Lauren came out and support supporting Mousie, so they decided to take them both down with one shot. It was almost too easy. I know Lauren and there are positive and negative things about her. The one positive thing about her is that she's a fighter. And the truth and for truth and common sense. Lauren likes it. Likes to let her hair down and have fun, too. As we saw by the video of her in the.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

In the theater.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, Guys grabbing her breasts, but she did not have sexual relations with that man.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, there's affection like a smear to me, too. Honestly.

[Adam Curry]

No, I think it was, and I think it was well executed.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

But. But. But, you know, it didn't show up in my algo, and that was surprising. No one tagged me in any of the stories. But it did. Here's where it's important. It did come because Tina told me. Did you hear about Lauren Boebert? You know, Tina doesn't watch anything anymore, but she hears it from the ladies of Fredericksburg. So one of the big MAGA ladies heard about it. So it was definitely in the mag. In the maga. In the Magalgo. Magalgo, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I believe there's an algo issue here. Anyway, continues. There's a faction of the Colorado GOP that is following Trump's orders and scrambling to find a candidate to primary her. Lauren. I call them the Davidians. And after Dave Williams, the former Colorado GOP chairman that screwed up the party beyond where it was already screwed up. This can lose them and the one seat they could hold on to, which is Lauren's seat. If they lose it, you can thank Trump for that. I honestly believe Trump wants Congress to flip for the midterms to show up Johnson and Thune. He could care less about the Republican Party. He thinks it's his own party in force.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, that's an interesting twist.

[Adam Curry]

I like the theory.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, this is not a bad theory at all.

[Adam Curry]

Colorado is going. This is actually pretty interesting. Now Colorado is going to complete the californication of the state this midterm election. The Democrat Socialists of America have taken over the Democrat party here and put in their own candidates, including a mental patient that wears a dress for state treasurer.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Colorado. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Colorado's office. Way to go. All major state offices will have DSA members and Congress will be be seven to one Democrat with almost all. All with DSA allegiance, which is. Which is sickening. The one Republican will be Boebert unless the Colorado GOP does the bidding of the DSA and primaries. Her. Colorado's a real shit show all across the board. The Democrats have destroyed the state and the idiot voters are doubling down on stupid legalized marijuana did the opposite of how it was supposed to work. They deserve their fate. I'm moving to Tampa Bay if I can sell my house and going to live In Anna Polina Luna's district. She's a smart. She's smart, a fighter and a former stripper, which is everything I want in my congresswoman.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

This is a true citizen of no agenda nation. Perfect. Perfect.

[Adam Curry]

And it goes on with some other details about stuff going on in Colorado. But I always thought Luna was just a bathing suit model. I didn't know she was a stripper.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

So there is one other theory from your boy. Here we go.

[John C. Dvorak]

The most expensive race in terms of ad spend in history, they say. Most expensive primary. It's $32 million in total, just in ads. I think 20 million purely from the Israel Lobby for Gal Ryan. And we all know why that is. It's because Thomas Massie is the most vocal critic of the Israel Lobby in Congress and specifically in the Republican conference in the Republican Party in the House. He voted against foreign aid, voted for release of the Epstein files, voted in favor of the War Powers Resolution against the Iran war, and he called out AIPAC and their handlers on Tucker Carlson's show. What's interesting, though, and I said this on my show, is that they're now all trying to make this about Trump. Even if you watch Pete Hegset's speech, he says, well, why is Thomas Massie a problem? He not with the team. He's not supporting Trump in a time of war. He's not voting with our movement.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That's right. They're just Trump. And does he have the power to

[John C. Dvorak]

run the party when. And really it's all about Israel. Exactly. They're hiding behind him. And the press is letting them do that because that line is coming from the White House and the Israel lobby.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh, yeah, there you go. And that, that. This is what you have to understand. It's all about the Israel Lobby. All about that. It's not about anything else but the Israel Lobby and President Trump double down on it.

[Adam Curry]

I'm right now at 99% in Israel. I could run for prime minister. So maybe after I do this, I'll go to Israel, run for prime minister. At a poll this morning, I'm 99%, so that's good. But no, he's a wartime prime minister and I just don't think they treat him well.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think they have a president over there that treats him very poorly.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

There you go. President Trump. He will be the next prime minister. Minister of Israel. So it's a shoo in. It's the Jews, man. Get it together. It has nothing to do with Boebert. This is how people think.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think they think that way.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

What?

[Adam Curry]

I think they think in terms of sex and scandals.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No, no, I'm talking about our own people.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, our people. Yeah.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, that's for sure trolls right now.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they're Jew money.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It was all Jew money. Here's Hegseth on the case.

[John C. Dvorak]

Primary elections are being held in six states today, including Kentucky where Republican Congressman Thomas Massie is in a tough fight with Trump backed challenger Ed Gal Rhein. Massey has been critical of the President's policies and has worked to release the Jeffrey Epstein files. In an extraordinary break with the military's tradition of political neutrality. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth appeared at a campaign event for Gal Ryan in Kentucky yesterday and attacked Massey recalled the appearance. Desperate need reinforcement from Republicans. That fight requires a Congress full of warriors, including Ed. This one, ladies and gentlemen, is a no brainer. It's kind of crazy that you would

[Guest/Interviewee]

send the Secretary of war.

[Adam Curry]

President Trump would not be doing this

[John C. Dvorak]

if they were confident that they were winning and they're worried that I'm going to win. The Pentagon says Hegseth appeared as a private sector citizen and not as a Secretary of War. They say no taxpayer dollars were used to pay for the visit.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Oh boy, I doubt it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah. Here's Ms. Now. Yeah. I mean, it's extraordinary unusual, inappropriate for a Defense Secretary to be on the

[John C. Dvorak]

campaign trail to begin with. Let's just start there.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

To be out campaigning for a candidate. Is it inappropriate for a Defense Secretary to do this?

[Adam Curry]

That says who?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, Willie from Ms. No.

[Adam Curry]

Why is it inappropriate?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I don't know. That's why I'm asking you.

[Adam Curry]

Well, why doesn't he explain it?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, that's a Hatch Act.

[Adam Curry]

Because nobody's done it before. Because somebody had. I doubt that nobody's done it before.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's the Hatch act, man there to be out campaigning for a candidate. There are Hatch act considerations potentially here.

[John C. Dvorak]

But then to do it in the middle of a war where just hours

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

ago the President was on the brink,

[John C. Dvorak]

he said, of a new round of strikes against Iran before pulling back again.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

We'll get into that in just a moment.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have the Secretary of Defense on

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

the campaign trail and as you say, why are they fighting against Thomas Massie? Because he wants all the information out. He wants the truth out about the

[John C. Dvorak]

Epstein files, how hard they're working to suppress that truth.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

The President dispatching his Secretary of Defense to campaign against the guy who's trying to get to the bottom of that also.

[John C. Dvorak]

Joe, I know this is something you've talked about for years now, which is that Thomas Massie, the argument goes from his opponents and yesterday from the head

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

of defense, is not conservative, that he's anti Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's not conservative.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Look at the voting record of Thomas Massie.

[John C. Dvorak]

Talk to anybody who's ever spent 10

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

minutes on Capitol Hill. He is incredibly conservative in all the

[John C. Dvorak]

ways that conservatism used to actually hold up. Now we're talking about Trumpism, which is something very different from conservatism.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

But the MAGA folks, Secretary of Defense, trying to conflate those two things. If you're against Donald Trump, even on

[John C. Dvorak]

the Epstein files now, you're not conservative.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah. So I guess we should still believe that there's Epstein files. We haven't seen. The real ones, I guess the pedo

[Adam Curry]

files, it probably is.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I'm sure there's something we haven't seen. But, but even, even Massey's own bill called for all files except active investigations. He wasn't really asking for all files. I mean, I want to see frazzle drip as much as anybody else.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think the Epstein thing was. The key issue here was he's voted against a big, beautiful bill. He voted again. He just would not get on board with a lot of the. From the Trump perspective, ignoring the real reason that he lost, which was the scandal, as far as I'm concerned.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, you'd expect it. Yeah. I mean, so then they must. First of all, we have to remind ourselves that the, the news media is not here to report on the news. It is to get us to vote Democrat. That's. That's what they do. Even Fox is questionable.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

So they, they want to make Trump look bad. You know, Hagseth, anyone else who is Trump adjacent. That's what they do. That. That is. So it wasn't, it wasn't in their best interest to launch this scandal or to report on the scandal.

[Adam Curry]

Report it?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, report it. It wasn't in their best interest.

[Adam Curry]

No. Because then it would, it would detract from the points they're trying to make.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

So now let's go to our next president, President Tucker, who did an interview with Israel's Channel 13. Did you happen to see this?

[Adam Curry]

No, I did not. I didn't even know this happened.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

This is fantastic. So just note that Tucker was there whenever something happened. Tucker was there. So this was a very adversarial interview, but I found it fascinating. Us.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Thank you for having me.

[John C. Dvorak]

You are one of Donald Trump's most consistent and vocal supporters. You called on people to vote for him. What Happened?

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[Guest/Interviewee]

What happened was the war with Iran, which I don't believe serves the interests of the United States. I think it's destructive to the United States and to the world, but mostly to the United States. I'm an American. That's what I care about. And that's something he promised he wouldn't do. For 10 years, he argued against a war like this, and then, for a variety of reasons, not all of which I understand, he embarked on it. And so I can't support that. My views did not change, his did.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you generally believe Israel would try to harm you because of your opinion?

[Guest/Interviewee]

Do I believe Israel would try to harm me? Yes, of course. I don't know. I hope not. I don't want to be harmed. Yeah, but my. My main interest is not Israel asking you.

[John C. Dvorak]

You were implied to that when you spoke about your coming to Israel. Let's see that for a second.

[Guest/Interviewee]

I said to them, okay, I want to send you the flight information, and I want you to pass that on to the Israeli military, just so you know, they don't mistake us for an Iranian drone or something. I mean, not to be paranoid, but again, this is probably the most violent country in the world, Israel.

[John C. Dvorak]

So Israel is the most violent state in the world, even more than Iran. Are you serious?

[Guest/Interviewee]

No country, and I say this with sadness, but no country has boasted more about killing its political opponents than Israel, of course, about its assassination programs. The prime Minister of Israel gave a golden pager to the President of the United States. I was there.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I was there.

[Guest/Interviewee]

And that golden pager represented the pagers that Hezbollah leaders were killed by. Sure. I mean, so yes, Israel brags about assassinating people, and of course, it does assassinate people. Many countries assassinate people. But Israel. Israel makes a public relations campaign out of boasting about killing its opponents, so.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Dude, have you ever heard someone say Allah au Akbar? I don't. Tucker. He doesn't know what he said in the past.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, this is the most concerning part. He doesn't remember anything he said in the past, and he's adamant about it. Oh, I never said that.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

But he also says President Trump went to war in Iran, which he promised he wouldn't do. Totally true. For reasons I don't understand why. But it's not America first. Well, maybe you should ask him why now. The answer primarily will be because Iran can't have a nuclear weapon. Okay, I'm pretty skeptical about that. We've been hearing that for 10 years or maybe even longer. I think there were definitely a lot of financial reasons And I mean, look at this. These guys, they control an area that apparently can put the whole world in peril just by them supposedly cutting it off or doing whatever. So it seems like that is a problem that just no one ever wanted to address. But let's go on, because Trump obviously did not do this for America. He did it for Israel. We all know this.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, you know, you accused Netanyahu of dragging Trump into an unnecessary war with Iran. So let's think about what it actually means. Do you really think that a foreign leader can pull the President of the United States into a war he didn't want? And what does it tell us about Trump? Is he really that weak?

[Guest/Interviewee]

Well, I don't think that that could happen. I saw it happen. I was there.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I was there. And so that happened. He was there.

[Adam Curry]

This guy's always there. But he's all. But he seems to be, like, in Israel or somebody else's podcast or he's doing his. But somehow he's always there.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

He was there when Bibi Netanyahu forced Donald Trump to go to war with Iran.

[John C. Dvorak]

He was there, the United States, States, into a war he didn't want. And what does it tell us about Trump? Is he really that weak?

[Guest/Interviewee]

Well, I don't think that that could happen. I saw it happen. I was there, and so that happened. So the question is why?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

He says this a lot. I've noticed. I was there. I was there. I think he means he saw something on TV or he read the New York Times article without pictures, or they said that something happened in the war room, but he was there.

[Guest/Interviewee]

And I just want to be clear. I don't primarily blame the Israeli prime minister, who I think is wrong. I think he's gravely hurt Israel. I think he's leading Israel toward destruction. I think he's a very bad leader and a very unwise leader. However, I also believe that Prime Minister Netanyahu is acting in what he thinks is his nation's best interest. So I give him credit for that and always have. I don't blame him. Primarily, I blame Donald Trump.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah.

[Guest/Interviewee]

For folding under the pressure from Benjamin Netanyahu and his many allies in the United States. Donors to Donald Trump, people in the media class here were effectively working on behalf of the government. And Donald Trump, whose decision it was, caved under that pressure. But on February 28, followed Israel into this war. And the Secretary of State of the United States said, we had no choice. They chose the time.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

He didn't say we had no choice.

[Guest/Interviewee]

The Israeli Prime Minister decided when this started. Well, that's the definition of control. He had control of this war.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

And so hold on a second. What is the definition of control? Let me just hear that again.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Half of the Israeli government and Donald Trump, whose decision it was, caved under that pressure. But on February 28, the United States followed Israel into this war. And the Secretary of State of the United States said, we had no choice. They chose the time the Israeli prime minister decided when this started. Well, that's the definition of control. He had control of this war.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That's an interesting way of looking at it. Even if you took Lubio's statement at face value, it wasn't control. He said, because I know. Because we played the clip ad nauseam and pulled it apart. He said Israel was going to strike, and that would mean that we would have strikes, so we had to go. But I don't think that's the definition of control, is it?

[Adam Curry]

Of course not.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Okay.

[Guest/Interviewee]

And so my question.

[Adam Curry]

Tucker's simplification of things.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, that's what he does.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Well, that's the definition of control. He had control of this war. And so my question is, why did Donald Trump allow a nation of 9 million people to pull the United States, a nation of 300 people?

[Adam Curry]

The logical inconsistency. First, he defines control to mean something he wants it to mean so he can then make the assertion that. How does a nation of 9 million people control? I mean, it's a trick. He uses trickery.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Literary point. Yes. Literary trickery.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's a trick. And it's like, okay, well, if you didn't push back on the earlier assertion, now he's got you. This is like how a pathological liar works, where they get. Get you to agree to one thing that they know that you're. Now you're. You're cooked because you. You've already agreed to the other thing. So that. So everything that logical. That logically stems from that must be true.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, Tucker's very good at that. But now he. He adds another 50 million people to our country, which I thought was interesting when this started.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Well, that's the definition of control. He had control of this war. And so my question is, why did Donald Trump allow a nation of 9 million people to pull the United States, a nation of 350 million people, into a war? That will change.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Are we at 350 now?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we've always been. We've been at 350 for a while.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No, we were at 250 for a while. And then we.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no.

[Adam Curry]

You're listening to an old show.

[Guest/Interviewee]

It's future and it is bad for the United States. And I can't answer that question.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can't answer?

[Guest/Interviewee]

I. I don't have an answer.

[Adam Curry]

Huh.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

You want to hear more? A couple more.

[Adam Curry]

I don't have an answer. That's good.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

You want to hear some more?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, sure.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

To imply like Donald Trump is so weak that the foreign leader can drag him into a war he doesn't want.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Well, I'm not.

[John C. Dvorak]

First of all, I never hesitated that

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

maybe now, now he's going to kind of walk it back. Well, I never said that.

[John C. Dvorak]

He just said it to imply Donald Trump is so weak that the foreign leader can drag him into a war he doesn't want.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Well, I'm not. First of all, I never hesitated and

[John C. Dvorak]

maybe afraid to say clearly that Donald Trump is weak.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Let me say two things. For one, of course I'm not afraid or I wouldn't be doing this interview or talking about this at all.

[John C. Dvorak]

But maybe you're wrong by not seeing what is very blunt truth, that if the United States would cave in to Iran terror regime that controls now also the Hormuz pathway and the terror ring that it created in the Middle east, maybe it would be even worse for any citizens in the world, not only in Israel, but also in the United States. And this is exactly what Donald Trump said. He said that the United States would have been in danger. So you don't believe Donald Trump? Trump.

[Guest/Interviewee]

I don't believe Donald Trump. And I also think as an Israeli, you should pause before using the phrase terror regime since you live in a country that just murdered thousands of children in Gaza. We should all pull back a little bit on the rhetoric.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yes, well, that's the rhetoric. We should all pull back on the rhetoric after I just threw out some rhetoric. Two more clips.

[Guest/Interviewee]

But the behavior of the Israeli government in Gaza is disgusting and immoral. And of course, Israel's not a democracy in any sense. There are millions of people who live under Israeli control who cannot vote. Right. And so if the West Bank, Judea and Samaria and Gaza, or whatever we're

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

calling these places, Judea and Samaria, what?

[Guest/Interviewee]

Which Israel has controlled since 1967 have people living in them who have no control over the government that controls their lives, which is true, it's not a democracy. So let's just drop the talking points. I agree with you on self defense. I don't think killing children is self defense. It never will be. And no amount of recounting the legitimate atrocities of October 7th will ever get me to accept this behavior from the Israeli government, from the US Government, from the Iranian government, or any government. It's always wrong. And Israel doesn't like to acknowledge the existence of universal principles that apply to everyone equally. That's why they're principles, not preferences. And Israel, again, which I've always liked as a country, is a lot of civilized, decent people living there to this day, has to acknowledge that principles are universal. They apply to everyone. Even you, even me, my government, your government, every government. But you won't acknowledge that. It's always like, oh, Iran's bad. Yeah, Iran's bad. But your behavior is bad, too.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Okay, I can't counter that. I mean, lots of behavior is bad. I mean, there's stuff going on in Nigeria. There's stuff going on everywhere, but Israel seems to be the focus. And then we get the final question, which of all. Been waiting for anything.

[Guest/Interviewee]

I don't think the United States should give Israel anything. I think we should stop all aid to Israel, all special deals for Israel tomorrow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mr. Carson, are you running for office? Do you consider running for office?

[Guest/Interviewee]

I am not running for office. I have no plans to run for office. I am starting to believe that the Republican Party does not serve the United States, and I certainly believe the Democratic Party does not serve the United States. And so I hope we have an option. I would like a democracy in the United States like I'd like one in Israel. Democracy. The United States apparently, is not a democracy either. Our government keeps doing things that people don't want. So that's not democracy. It's the opposite of democracy. And I want democracy very, very much.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I want democracy, democracy, democracy.

[Adam Curry]

It's a republic, you dumb shit. He knows that.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

But he wants democracy. As you. As you yelled in the background in Qatar. In Qatar, yes. That's why you want to buy a house, because you feel safe there in the democracy of Qatar. With a king.

[Adam Curry]

With a king.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

With a king. It's. It's just interesting. It's interesting. He's doing this. He's doing. I think he is running. I think he does have a plan. I really do. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

What do you mean?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I think he really has thoughts. And people are talking to him. We know people are talking to him. Your boy Kiriaku was talking to a boy I called. Yeah. Tucker, you gotta run, man. You can win this thing. You can win this thing. I am sure he's thinking about it. Why else do you do these interviews, do your podcast, do your podcast, who cares? Channel 13 in Israel. It was a fluke that I got it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's a fluke.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah. So anyway, I just thought well let's

[Adam Curry]

get the the main story that was pushed on the ABC News out of the way because I have a three by three about the mosque.

[John C. Dvorak]

And now it's time for three by three.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's experiment by jcd comparing stories from abc, CBS and NBC.

[John C. Dvorak]

The never ending superb.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That's right. The top stories from the three big ones. John's got them lined up. Let's see if they are exactly the same or if something is a little different in one of them. Here we go.

[John C. Dvorak]

ABC Tonight authorities have revealed the two shooters were wearing body armor and camouflage armed with shotguns, rifles and handguns when they stormed the Islamic center of San Diego shooting and killing three people including a hero security guard.

[Adam Curry]

And they live streamed the attack using

[John C. Dvorak]

what appear to be helmet cameras. The shooters made it inside the front entrance of a building just feet away from school children. Police say the suspects went room by room and found no one. They headed back outside to the parking lot. Police believe the suspects heard the sound

[Guest/Interviewee]

of rapidly approaching sirens and fled the scene.

[John C. Dvorak]

This new video from blocks away shows the suspects then opening fire at a

[Adam Curry]

landscaper who wasn't injured.

[John C. Dvorak]

Both shooters then later found dead of self inflicted gunshot wounds. Tonight sources say the suspects are 17 year old Cain Clark, a high school wrestler and 18 year old Caleb Vasquez. The FBI says they met and were radicalized online and shared a broad hatred of different races and religions. The livestream appears to show them wearing neo Nazi symbols.

[Guest/Interviewee]

I can't confirm there has been a

[John C. Dvorak]

manifesto that's been recovered.

[Guest/Interviewee]

They didn't discriminate on who they.

[John C. Dvorak]

Police say the 17 year old suspect's mother had called police two hours before the shooting fearing he was suicidal saying her weapons and vehicle were missing setting off a manhunt before the attack. And David, we have just learned from sources that a person previously reported the 18 year old suspect in this case

[Adam Curry]

and police made contact with him.

[John C. Dvorak]

They were reported that he was interested in extremism and mass casualty attacks. David, so many grateful to that hero security guard tonight. Trevor all, thank you.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

You know, you wake up and you're interested in mass casualty events. Okay,

[Adam Curry]

they were, they met online and got radicalized how?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh very easy by the constant videos everywhere telling you that Islam is taking over America. Throw in some SSRIs which you'll never hear about and you've got yourself a powder keg. This doesn't surprise me at all. And this they didn't care about who they hated. Bullshit. Just go online. It's, look at this, look at this imam, look at this, look at this guy. Oh, look at this. Oh, they're taking over 200 mosques in Texas. They're, they're gonna get us Sharia law. Yeah. NBC, NBC.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can hear the gunshots. A person scrambling to push a stroller to safety as a suspect opens fire in a San neighborhood. And here, glass breaking as more shots come from that very vehicle. Police say just minutes before that shooting, two gunmen unleashed a deadly rampage at a mosque, sending school kids running for their lives. Two senior law enforcement officials telling NBC News the gunmen have been identified as 18 year old Caleb Vasquez and 17 year old Cain Clark. And three senior law enforcement officials tell NBC News they're trying to authenticate a document purportedly written by the suspects full of anti Islam and anti Semitic views, also describing themselves as anti Trump. Outside the car where police say they killed themselves. A bottle with a Nazi SS symbol.

[Guest/Interviewee]

They didn't discriminate on who they hated.

[John C. Dvorak]

And at 9:40am Monday, two hours before the killing spree, police say Clark's mother called police to report her suicidal son had run away taking his parents weapons and car. Police started a search, including at a mall and school. When two hours later, the first reports of gunfire at the mos and then that second shooting scene just blocks away. Branches still on the ground after police say the gunman opened fire on a landscaper. One bullet grazing off his helmet, another embedded right here in this very home. As this investigation is still ongoing.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Morgan, I know you have some new

[John C. Dvorak]

reporting in on these suspects. Yeah, Tom, we do. And in addition to recovering those 30 firearms and crossbows, authorities say that they believe these two teenagers met online where they were later radicalized. And upon realizing that both lived here in San Diego, that's when they started meeting in person. And right now they're doing a deep dive into their electronic devices.

[Adam Curry]

Deep dive.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I wonder if there was discord involved and. Yeah, well, none of this is should be surprising. They hate Trump. Okay. They probably did. They watch Tucker. Do they watch Fuentes? The Jews are killing America. The Muslims are killing America. This is, this is what online narrative is. It's in our own troll room. I'm not surprised by this. They were probably radicalized by some trolls here. It doesn't surprise me at all. It's extremely sad, I think. Well, I'll wait until we play cbs. Do they do something different?

[Adam Curry]

CBS or CIA outlet? I don't. The only thing that I found interesting was that both reports said they didn't discriminate against who they hated. Yeah, let's see if CBS does that.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

There's a reason for this. I don't know what it is yet, but we're gonna find out.

[Guest/Interviewee]

We've seized over 30 guns and a crossbow.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

San Diego police say the two teens who carried out the mosque shooting and apparently livestreamed their rampage were likely motivated by hate.

[John C. Dvorak]

We also identified writings and various ideologies outlining religious, religious and racial beliefs of

[Guest/Interviewee]

how the world they envision should look.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

The two teenagers, 17 year old Caine Clark and Caleb Vasquez, 18, met online and connected over their hate filled beliefs. They approached the mosque just before noon on Monday and started shooting. The gunman came within 15ft of 140 children inside. Two mosque members, Nadir Awad and Mansoor Kazia engaged the shooters, moving them outside. Earlier, Amin Abdullah, a security guard and father of eight, enacted lockdown protocols and took on the gun.

[John C. Dvorak]

I felt a bit scared. My legs were shaking my hands and my. My head was like hurting me a lot.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

A landscaper working nearby was shot at. A bullet deflected off of his helmet, likely saving his life. Imam Taha Hussain says their community is shaken.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I know that my community is resilient. We're just trying our best to show the best of who we are. To stand in solidarity with one another, especially with the families of the three victims.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Police believe the shooters died from self inflicted gunshot wounds. And tonight there is growing concern over hate directed at religious groups. And faith institutions are asking for additional police presence. Tony?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Christians are on deck. Next. That'll be next.

[Adam Curry]

This has already happened a couple of times. Are you kidding me?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, no, I know.

[Adam Curry]

School shootings with the trans shooters. This guy. These guys weren't trans that we know of. And I'd like to know. Ask a question. What. What brings somebody to kill? They're ideologues. They're going on and they bitching and moaning about one thing or another and they want to kill a bunch of Muslims. They want to do this, they want to do that, then they shoot themselves. Wouldn't they rather be like living martyrs? So they could go into the prisons and get people on their side of things or try to proselyt or something. Do something other than shoot themselves. This whole thing stinks.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, that's the SSRIs talking with in combo with some discord.

[Adam Curry]

There's gotta be clearly.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

But you know I'm looking for this video. Let me see. It was. I'LL look for it in a moment. This is an example of why people get all spun up and angry. But first seeing that CBS was the only one who had a little bit of the audio of the kid, the nine year old old cnn, they, oh, they went to the mat. They let's get this nine year old kid on camera. Let's do it. This will be great. It's great television.

[John C. Dvorak]

I felt a bit scared. My legs were shaking. My hands and my, my head was like hurting me a lot. I felt like a rock. The teachers and the kids were like shaking, sad and stuff. When the guy kicked the door, all

[Adam Curry]

of them were crying.

[John C. Dvorak]

I heard like a bunch of bad stuff like gunshots. And plus I went out, I went inside the closet with my whole class. We heard like 12 or like 16 gunshots. And then the Swatz team said, FPI, open up. Then they opened the door and they went inside. They told us to put our hands

[Adam Curry]

up and form a big line.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

We were like walking inside the Masala, all of us.

[John C. Dvorak]

We, we saw that like apartment inside the mosque and like it was broken down. We went down and then we saw a bunch of bad stuff, people laying down and. Yeah, bad stuff.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, man. Child abuse.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I agree. I was gonna say the same thing.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That's child abuse. So this is a poor kid. This is a guy at a city hall meeting in Frisco, Texas, and he's got, for some reason he has body armor on, like military, you know, plate in the front, plate in the back. And this is the kind of stuff that gets people really spun up. And I can see that this gets kids, you know, into this radicalized state.

[John C. Dvorak]

King Friscoistan. What are you guys doing here? Inviting the enemy to eat at the, the table with you and they steal all your food. Your children will grow up without a place to be in because every single one of their jobs. And you saw the children that were brought up on this stage. Not one of them is a heritage American. Not one of them was a Texan. Your replacement is here, Americans, and it is coming faster and faster. The Hindus and the Muslims are teaming up to take over Texas. This is not Muslims versus Hindus here. They are here to eradicate the Christians. They're here to drive us out of our homelands. You have to understand, these people do not want to assimilate. These people have not come here to become Americans. They have come here to drag their third world culture over to our country. If Jainism, if Hinduism is so great, why are their country holes? They are bringing this Ideology here to turn. The third world is not a place, it is a people. It is an ideology. It is a way of life, it is a culture. And when they bring their people, their way of life, their ideology and their culture over to America, do you think it's going to remain American? Have you ever looked across the plains of Texas and said, hmm, I need 5 million jeets here right now to shit in the street? No. No one ever has. No one has ever looked across and said, the football fields, the games, all of the amazing cowboys. I have the First Amendment right and I could curse if I watch. I can talk if I want to. No one has ever looked across the plains of Texas in the football games and all the amazing cowboy culture and the raw American spirit here and said, let's replace this with Muslims, let's replace this with Hindus. Texas should remain for Texans.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

This guy is spun up. But this is the feeling, Joe,

[John C. Dvorak]

that

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

is being created online. I, I think the reality in some places, yeah, you've got enclave just like this is, Is this anything different than Chinatown, than Little Italy, than Jew, Toown, hidic, Jew. Is it any different? Has it ever, ever been any different? You're muted.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, ghettos, ghettos.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

But has it ever been any different?

[Adam Curry]

There's always been ghettos.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah,

[Adam Curry]

I think if they're talking about people crapping in the street, it's not the Hindus. It's the homeless in San Francisco. They're not Hindus.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Don't look at those. Those are Americans.

[Adam Curry]

They.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Damn it. So, but this, this is, this is what people watch and like, yeah, yeah, there's no heritage Americans.

[Adam Curry]

That means white.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That's, that's a new term.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's cute.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

So, you know, and I, I push back here all the time. Say you're, you're out of your mind. There are 25,000 churches in Texas and 253 mosques over the last 20 years. Not the last two years like you see online. Like, okay, all right, well, change the Constitution, change the Bill of Rights. Only Christians. But this, this is the, the, it's flowing over from what happened in Europe, which is a very different situation. And it's not Muslims, it's Islamists. It's a big difference. He's right about that. It's a political ideology. And if you see some dudes talking about, we're going to take over America, they should get a knock on the door, hey, what's your problem, son? Let's make sure you don't have anything strange going on here.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they should get a Knock on the door. We don't do that enough.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I agree.

[Adam Curry]

But, you know, we wait till somebody does something, then we arrest them. When you should just, you know, preventative crime prevention is very easily done by just a, you know, hey, stop doing it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Stop it. Yeah, stop that for a moment. Will you stop it? Exactly. Well, I don't have enough of that. We've already, we agree on that. So, you know, so then you get this. Well, that doesn't surprise me. I have, I have the MSNBC report just to wrap this up, you know, Robert, I want to piggyback off of Eamon's idea about the piece of this community being this mosque, its longevity in this community.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want you to listen real quick

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

to the imam Tah Hasan and what he had to say about this moment.

[John C. Dvorak]

It is extremely outrageous to target a place of worship. Our Islamic State center is a place of worship. People come to the Islamic center to pray, to celebrate, to learn. Not only Muslims, but we have people from all walks of life. Just this morning, earlier, a group of people, non Muslims, coming just to learn about our faith and our cultures. So this is something that we have never expected.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Eamonn noted that, you know, they've been there since the late 1980s.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the depth and the roots of

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

this, of this community in this center

[John C. Dvorak]

of faith and learning clearly is not enough. You know, those roots are no longer enough in this Michael Steele new space where.

[Adam Curry]

God, I didn't realize he stammered so much.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, he's trying to, you know, he's in his sincere mode now.

[Adam Curry]

He has. This guy's a stooge.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yes, he is a stooge. He is. He is. Anyway.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's go to another story that I think is the weird. I, to me is weird. I don't understand it completely. I don't know how we can do it it. But we've done it. Which is Castro indictment.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, this is good. Which one do you want to play first?

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's start with the npr, which I think is the overview.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

You mean the ntd.

[Adam Curry]

Did I. Yeah, ntd.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tonight, the Justice Department's indictment of former Cuban dictator Raul Castro. Today marks a significant move in the Trump administration's escalating pressure against Cuba. And to these. Arlene Richards has the story.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Federal authorities in Miami on Wednesday announcing charges against Raul Castro tied to the 1996 shoot down of civilian planes operated by Brothers to the Rescue, an incident that killed four people. Castro served for decades as one of the most powerful figures in Cuba's communist regime. He was Cuba's Defense Minister at the time of the attack and later became the country's president, succeeding his brother Fidel Castro.

[John C. Dvorak]

Today we are announcing indictment charging Raul

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Castro and several others with conspiracy to kill US nationals.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mr. Castro and the others are charged with additional crimes as well, including destruction of aircraft and four individual counts of murder.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Castro faces a maximum term of life imprisonment on the conspiracy and murder charges and up to five years on each of the destruction of aircraft charges. Prosecutors accused Castro of involvement in the order to shoot those planes down.

[John C. Dvorak]

Raul Castro ordered those fighter jets to shoot down unarmed civilian aircraft. It was not an accident. It was intentional, premeditated, state sanctioned murder and their criminal conspiracy violated Florida's sovereignty.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

The announcement comes alongside a commemoration service for those who lost their lives. Federal authorities say that the charges are a step toward accountability.

[Adam Curry]

For nearly 70 years, the communist Cuban

[John C. Dvorak]

regime has acted with impunity in its systematic repression of its people. And for the last 30 years, this regime's senior leadership has gone unchallenged for its murder of four Americans.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

While it remains unclear whether there are plans to bring Castro into U.S. custody, the indictment represents one of the strongest legal actions yet taken against Cuba's former leadership.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

To me, it seemed very obvious what this was. Solidify Florida for the midterms. We got to have Florida, got to make sure we nail that down.

[Adam Curry]

But I don't think, I don't think Florida is in play.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, it isn't now, that's for sure.

[Adam Curry]

Well, the other, I have mixed feelings about this one. They claim that the Cubans sent some fighters to shoot down these planes in Florida airspace. If that was true, why was it? Weren't those fighters brought down by, by missiles?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No, I, I don't think the story is important. I think it's all.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm just saying, I'm asking these questions.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

And then Cuba says, no, no, no, we did this over our land and we, this is a, you know, these planes were in our airspace and we shot them down. The other thing is this went on for 30 years. Yeah, it's 30 years ago this happened.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, this is just posturing. They're just getting ready, getting ready to take over the place.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's listen to the analysis because I have a, I have a theory about this. Okay, let's go to analysis one next.

[John C. Dvorak]

Officials in Florida today reacting to the federal indictment of former Cuba dictator Raul Castro, saying it will be life changing for people living in Cuba as well as the US entities. David Lam has more on that. Officials in Florida sharing their thoughts on the latest developments regarding Cuba after the federal indictment of Raul Castro, the former

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

head of Cuba's communist regime.

[John C. Dvorak]

Alexander Dias Rodriguez is, I think, 45 years old. Look how old he looks in this. You know why? He was starved, he was tortured, he has cancer. They didn't give him treatment. That's the face of the Cuban regime. The indictment describes how Fidel Castro, his

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brother Raul Castro and others established a

[John C. Dvorak]

ruthless communist dictatorship in Cuba after seizing power in 1959. Secretary of State Marco Rubio addressing the Cuban people dubiously. Congressman Carlos Jimenez, a Cuban American, says he looks forward to a free Cuba. Very happy for today I am. I was born in Cuba, returned to Guantanamo about a year ago, and I made a promise that I would never return to Cuba again unless it was free. I believe I'm going to be able to keep that promise and I'm going

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

to see a free Cuba in the

[John C. Dvorak]

not too distant future. Castro's indictment stems from his alleged involvement in Cuba's shooting down of two planes belonging to a humanitarian group in 1996 in which three American citizens and a US resident were killed. And people were swimming across the Florida Strait.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

And the brothers to the rescue were

[John C. Dvorak]

going out on their own to help people get to our shores to escape tyranny. And they gave the order, Raul Castro to shoot them down, to shoot them

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

out of the sky.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, today there will be justice.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

What's the difference between now and then

[John C. Dvorak]

is that we have President Trump in the White House.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

That is the big difference.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Ah, here's the thought.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thought.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Two things happened this week. Can you be vice president for a different president twice? So could JD Vance could be Lubio's vice president.

[Adam Curry]

There's absolutely no reason you can't, can't do that.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh, perfect. This is it. Lubio for president. And he'll have a huge, huge base behind him. And J.D. vance, you know, we just saw, he's great at the press conferences, so he'll be vice president slash press second forever. Forever. Forever. Yeah. This is positioning. Look at, look at the difference. Lubio gets to say what he just did, and Vance gets to run the press. It's a winning team, man.

[Adam Curry]

Let's go. Now we have a CIA guy they brought in, which brings me to my thoughts, which I'll after this second clip of the analysis.

[John C. Dvorak]

And joining us to discuss the implications of these charges against former dictator and defense minister Raul Castro is Michael Waller. He's a former CIA operative and senior analyst strategy at the center for Security Policy. Michael, today for you Must be surreal. You've spent your career in defense, national security and foreign policy development with a specialty on Latin America. What is the significance of this May 20th Cuban Independence Day. With accountability on the horizon for a

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Castro, it's a great day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Raul Castro killed a lot of my friends. He had them gunned down across Central America and elsewhere.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

So this is a really exciting time to see this man finally brought in

[John C. Dvorak]

for justice in shackles. Your response gives me chills. Would you expect Castro to turn himself in or perhaps a Maduro style operation? Or is he just too old to even be able to make that, that trip back to the US in his mid-90s at this point?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, I think he'd rather die than surrender. That's part of his nature.

[Adam Curry]

So he'll have to just make a

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

choice or we'll make it for him. Just noted, today the US Southern Command announced that the the aircraft carrier Nimitz

[John C. Dvorak]

strike strike group has just entered the Caribbean.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

And if you look at the video

[Adam Curry]

that they posted on X, there's a

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

map of Cuba in the very last half second. Okay, yes. Well, this is not unexpected.

[Adam Curry]

So I think this is Trump finally getting around to completing the Bay of Pigs operation that Kennedy chickened out on. Yeah, it's like, okay, the CIA wanted to do, take this guy out right away. They couldn't while the getting was good. Good. And then Kennedy didn't have the, the wherewithal. He didn't have the. Just didn't like it. And he was also part of it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No, no, man. Israel told him not to.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it was part of that era where people were kind of soft on communism and this, you know, and Castro presented himself kind of not as a full blown communist. And so Kennedy couldn't pull the trigger and so they let the, you know, the thing fail, the Bay of Pigs event fail, which it did. And it's got to be. It's been a cross, a thorn in the CIA's paw ever since. And Trump is fixing it and he's. That's the only thing that could be going on. That CIA guy was all jacked up talking about it. And he also mentions he thinks Raul Castro is still running the country despite the fact that he's retired. And there's some other tidbits. I could have gotten three or four more clips. It was going to get too boring, but I didn't do it. But I think that's what's going on. And Trump's going to end up, you know, besides being in the quagmire, it looks like in Iran, he's going to fix the Cuba situation for good.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, if this is true, and I like the thesis, what other blunders could Trump go and fix from the past? Can we finally get the Viet Cong?

[Adam Curry]

Viet Cong, wow.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

There's got to be something, something else he can do one of these blunders. We've had a lot of blunders. Well, he did Panama. We got Panama fixed. I guess I don't hear anything else about Panama. He's fixing the Hormuz Straits, no problem. And I think he will fix it. And I think he will fix it before July 4th one way or the other.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Other.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

He's got the Cuba thing, he's come

[Adam Curry]

in, he's the mechanic that fixes all the screw ups.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Here's some CBC analysis.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Trump declined to say whether the US military would conduct an operation to seize Castro similar to what American forces did in Venezuela when President Nicolas Maduro was captured and flown to New York to face drug related charges. The move facilitated a leadership change. Change in Caracas viewed as more favorable to Washington and U.S. oil interests. Castro will appear in court one way or another, says Todd Blanche.

[John C. Dvorak]

This isn't a show indictment. We expect that he will show up here by his own will or by

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

another way and go to prison.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Cuba's President Miguel Diaz Canel is condemning the indictment in a post on social media. He says the case against Castro has been fabricated to justify military aggression against Cub.

[Adam Curry]

Cuban leadership is certainly not going to just turn him over.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Peter Kornblue is a senior Cuba analyst with a research group in Washington and he predicts tensions are about to rise.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think we're living in a very

[Adam Curry]

grim moment in which the dark cloud of possible US acts of war against Cuba are coming.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Donald Trump has said many times he built up the military in his first term and now he's going to use it in his second term. If the US does decide to take action, it won't likely happen quickly since so many resources are already deployed to the Middle east for the US war in Iran.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That's not even true. Didn't the Abraham Lincoln just come back into port?

[Adam Curry]

No, it was the Nimitz.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No, that was the Ford. The Ford. Yeah, Ford came back. It was also big. Ford's not small.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, that was a deploy forever. That's the one. I think they had the bad toilets

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

or something for 11, 11 months they

[Adam Curry]

had to park in Greece to have them fixed because nobody in Europe would take the shit.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

We're not going to fix that.

[Adam Curry]

Which really pissed everybody Italy would. No, no, no, get that thing out of here. So here, especially with the bad toilets, we don't need that aggravation.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Here's the.

[Adam Curry]

We already have enough toilet issues in Venice.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Here is the ramp up opportunity.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

As President Trump publicly weighs taking military action in Cuba, the country's president, Miguel Diaz Canel is warning that doing so would create a, quote, bloodbath. In an exclusive, Axios reports that Cuba has acquired more than 300 military drones and is discussing using them to potentially attack the Guantanamo Bay U.S. detention center and possibly even parts of the U.S. mainland. White House correspondent for Azio's Mark Caputo joins me now to discuss his new reporting. And walk us through what you've learned, Mark.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you sort of set it up pretty well. Is after the toppling of Maduro in Venezuela, Venezuelan intelligence began telling the United States that a rather around mid 2023, Cuba had begun acquiring drones and had as many as 300, which surprised the United States. And recently, according to the intelligence officials we spoke to, there were intercepts of chatter of discussions in Cuban military circles of not only buying more drones from Russia, but also discussing possibly attacking these targets. Now we are told that there's no imminent threat from Cuba. Cuba, that Cuba was talking about launching these attacks in case hostilities erupted, military hostilities.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, Shahid drones is what I'm thinking. So that's, that's the next thing. Oh, they got drones. Oh, they got the drones. So, and they can hit Guantanamo, they can hit Miami Beach.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's only 90 miles.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That's what I'm saying. It's a ramp up. This is a ramp up.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, that's just. Maybe they're being set up so they can send a drone. Or it could be a false flag, a fake drone. Now we've got the notion that they got the drones. Some drone hits Miami beach, it could be one of our drones. That's a complete false flag. And then we attack Cuban, grab Castro

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

and change the government and then, well, maybe. Could Marco, could he be the president of Cuba? Could we give him a gimme?

[Adam Curry]

I like that idea.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I bet he would like it too. Think of the vacation destination. I'm so bored of all the islands.

[Adam Curry]

The CIA guy said that he claims I, I can't verify this. I've discussed it with some people though, to be honest about it, that Rubio can speak fluent, perfect Spanish. But he spoke in that speech. He spoke with his cube, with his Cuban accent. Accent. So he has a Cuban Spanish, which according to at least one friend of mine who speaks Fluent Colombian Spanish. Cuban Spanish is like gutter Spanish. Gutter Spanish is like, nice. You know, it's not talking like this when, you know you have a funny accent in the United States. You talk funny.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Are you making fun of Texas?

[Adam Curry]

No. Texas talks like this.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Your teeth.

[Adam Curry]

That's different.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Speaking of Texas, something interesting happened in Houston. Houston, which I believe is at the. The very same hospital where our. Our vax guy is. What's his name again? The one with the glasses?

[Adam Curry]

No.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah. Hotep. Hotep, exactly. It's his hospital. And this is what's happened.

[John C. Dvorak]

A controversial settlement over transgender care for minors reached today between Texas Children's Hospital.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Hey, man, you are really banging your mic a lot.

[Adam Curry]

I'm. I'm moving things around, and I. And I'm hitting the mic by accident. Here's the. I can explain the setup. There's this wire that I keep bumping into, and it makes it. It makes a noise when it. When I hit it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Get some gaffer tape, man. Lock that down. This is professional.

[Adam Curry]

I need gaffer's tape. I don't have any here.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Here we go. I'll start over.

[John C. Dvorak]

A controversial settlement over transgender care for minors reached today between Texas Children Children's Hospital in Houston and Attorney General Ken Paxton. After years of back and forth and the involvement of the U.S. department of Justice, Texas Children's is agreeing to pay $10 million to the state, revoke the privileges of several doctors, and create what

[Adam Curry]

Paxton calls the nation's first detransition clinic.

[John C. Dvorak]

This all stems from a 2023 state investigation into allegations that the hospital improperly billed Texas Medicaid for some of the care. In a statement, Paxton says in part, quote, this settlement will ensure that the deranged child mutilators who hurt our kids are fired and held accountable, adding that the detransition clinic will help provide free care to those who have been victimized by twisted, morally bankrupt transgender ideology.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

We may have a lot of Muslims, but we're stopping this nonsense.

[Adam Curry]

Can I ask you a question?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so Trump is ousting Cornyn, who has always voted with Trump. Trump on all issues, including the big, beautiful bill and everything else. And Corn has been a staunch Republican, and they're running Ken Paxton, who I understand is somewhat controversial within this boundaries of Texas itself for some reason. I think it goes back. We talked about this guy before. What's going on? Why is Ken Paxton being run against Cornyn?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I think because he won't put in anti AI laws, but he's very much. I think he may even Be in the Trump faith office.

[Adam Curry]

What?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I think he's in the Office of Faith. He's one of the people there.

[Adam Curry]

Office of what?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

The Faith Office. There's a faith office?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, a faith office, yes.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Faith office.

[Adam Curry]

So why is he ousting? Yeah, Cornyn is a shoo in. Why would you do this? Just because of the faith office? I don't think so.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No, but he is in the White. My point is, he's in the White House all the time.

[John C. Dvorak]

He. He's.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

He's saying, look, make me Attorney General, I will make sure.

[Adam Curry]

Attorney General. They're making him senator.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh, he already is the Attorney General. Sorry.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Hello.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Hello.

[Adam Curry]

I'm asking the wrong guy, apparently. Come on, you gotta be. You have to have the answer to this question. You're the Texan.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

All I know is that everybody I know voted for Cornyn. They did not vote for Path Paxton. So that's my Texas beat. Why Trump is doing that is as much a mystery to me as it is to you. I'm trying to come up with some theories, and you're just berating me and you need to stop.

[Adam Curry]

No, I'm not berating you. Yeah, I am. You are, but I'll stop berating you once you come up with a theory that. That's understandable because I sure don't get it and nobody else does. Here's what. Here's what the litany is. The litany is that Trump is that that Paxton is more. Is a. Is the result of the mega base demanding that Paxton be put in and Cornyn be kicked out. It's got nothing to do with Trump at all. It's the MAGA base. But why?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I don't know. You have. You have a theory. It's as good as any.

[Adam Curry]

Are the Meg. Is the mega Base that stupid?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No, the MAGA base, which lives in Fredericksburg is voted for Cornyn.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there you go. So now that even that theory doesn't make any sense, then.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No. So I don't know why I'm trying to tell you that he's in the President's face all day long because he's in the face office and he's running around there doing all kinds of stuff.

[Adam Curry]

So, okay, so let me think of. And possibly this being it, because I've worked in organizations where you are, like as a writer, for example. You're not in the office, but there's some conniver in the office trying to get your job.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, there you go. That's as good as anything I can

[Adam Curry]

come up with and they end up getting your job because you're not in the office to defend yourself.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, but again.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's terrible.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

But, yeah. And I am not a Paxton.

[Adam Curry]

That's bad management on Trump's part.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I'm not a Paxton fan. Someone's in his ear about Paxton.

[Adam Curry]

Nobody likes Paxton. That's the reason I think I'm asking this. He seems to be disliked by the Texans.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, the man. There's a. There's a. I can't tell this story on the air, but.

[Adam Curry]

What?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

There's a He. Pax Paxton came to our church a couple weeks ago and I can't tell you, but I just can't tell you on the. Okay, but. But I will tell you off the air, but there's. I have reasons.

[Adam Curry]

We have secrets, people.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I do. I have reasons to not like this guy because he's swarmy. And, and I think you don't even need to meet him to know that he's swarmy.

[Adam Curry]

Swarmy or smarmy?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, both. Schmarmy, schwarmy, icky schwarmy. I think is some sort of achy. He is. Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Creepy.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Creepy. There you go. Creepy. Creepy. But he has a lot of political power,

[Adam Curry]

so.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

And I don't know why, but. Sorry, I've been sworn to secrecy on this one.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's no problem.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That happens. Let me switch topics for a second because this is, this is an interesting story.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It comes across as a problem, and I think it is. This is the. The Trump Blind trust. So called blind trust.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, this is great.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Here's Ms. Now.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Okay, I think you're going to want to take a deep breath before this one because we got President Trump's financial transactions.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

What?

[Adam Curry]

I'm taking a deep breath.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's Ms. Now, this is how they

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

talk from the beginning.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

They're doing podcasts on television this year,

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

and it is stunning. His filing with the U.S. office of Government Ethics show that he has done more than 3,700 stock trades, many of those trades with companies that this administration is doing business with. And if you're wondering, I don't know, I don't trade stocks. Is that a lot? It's a lot. Steve Rattner, who you know from Morning Joe, he's a professional investor, said in his decades and decades of investing, he doesn't think he's done that many trades in total. And some of the major ones were trades in the tech sector. I'm talking Mike, Microsoft, Amazon, Mehta, Nvidia, just to name A few. Why is that so notable? Because I know you know this. The president has been spending an enormous amount of time with these companies, with these CEOs. Last week alone, when he went to China. Who is there? Tim Cook, Apple CEO. Jensen Wang, Nvidia CEO and the timing of these trades is raising some major red flags.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

So here's Rachel Maddow's version of it. And then I, I will give you my best deconstruction.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Nine days after he buys millions of dollars worth of stock in Dell, Trump veers off script in a speech in Georgia to tell the crowd, literally, quote, go out and buy a Dell computer. Then in March, he buys up a whole bunch of stock in a company called Thermo Fisher. Repeated purchases of Thermo Fisher. Judd Leggum at Popular Information reports that Trump repeatedly buys up Thermo Fisher stock. And then he goes and visits Thermo Fisher on a presidential visit. And on this presidential visit to Thermo Fisher, he praises the company repeatedly as an incredible company. He says as president that he wants other pharmaceutical companies to start working with Thermo Fisher. He buys their stock, and then he goes out and boosts the company as president. Judd Legum also notes that that same day, March 11, same day as the Thermo Fisher visit, that same day, Trump bought hundreds of thousands of dollars of stock in Apple. And then that same day he bought the stock, he did another event where he singled out Apple and Apple CEO Tim Cook for praise. Apple, a great company. Then after that, Trump buys between 50 and $100,000 of Micron stock. Okay, between 50 and $100,000 in Micron stock. The very next, next day, he calls into the Fox News Channel and tells them, Micron, it's one of the hottest companies. Then it's Palantir. CNBC reporting, Trump makes seven separate purchases of Palantir stock, hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of Palantir stock. Then he gets on Truth Social and praises Palantir, Palantir Technologies, great capabilities and equipment. He literally even posted the stock ticker abbreviation for Palantir right after he bought hundreds of thousands of dollars of their stock and got online to boost it. Giving people the stock ticker abbreviation to make it easier for them to go buy some Palantir to boost the value of the stock he just bought before he said this online.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Okay, so Rachel, of course, gives us no analysis, but I think it was,

[Adam Curry]

by the way, he's buying the stock high.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, here's my observations. First, first of all, I think it was Eric Trump who said it's in a blind trust and it's not. It's a revocable trust and the two Trump brothers are completely in charge of it. So they can buy and sell. It's not blind. They can do whatever they want. Now you'd have to think they'd be really, really, really, really stupid to be taking insider information. And I agree. If you look at the, at the trust trades, it's not like he's buying them at the bottom and then hyping them up. But the key is 3,700 trades. That's HFT. That's HFT. They've got an algo running. It's high frequency trading. They're not, they're not in charge of anything. They're running an algo for this stuff. 3700 Trade. Ask, ask Horowitz. I'm sure he'll tell you that has to be high frequency trade trading. So they're just letting some algo run based upon, I don't know, Twitter.

[Adam Curry]

That's what you do when you have that kind of money.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yes, exactly. So they're trying to make it look like there's all kinds of insider trading and everything's all, oh, it's all wishy washy. But I don't think so. I think they just let an algo run because that's what family offices do. I just run the algo and that thing buys and sells a hundred times a day, up and down, up and down, taking a couple of pennies in each, each direction of the trade. And that's how it works. That's the buried lead here. That's, that's not. I love seeing that. I love saying that jargon. Woo. Yeah. But then this, this, this story, I think, is a problem.

[John C. Dvorak]

We turn now to the dark world of online betting markets that allow bets on virtually any news of the event. For a small group of traders, the war with Iran has been a windfall. On the night of February 27, 16 bets on the trading platform known as Polymarket made $100,000 each for accurately predicting when the US would strike Iran. Soon after, one trader made over half a million dollars, betting that Ayatollah Ali Khamenei would be toppled moments before he was assassinated by Israel Israeli forces. The same surge was seen in oil futures trading as well. Right before President Trump announced a temporary ceasefire with Iran. On March 7, traders bet $950 million

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

that oil prices, which they did.

[John C. Dvorak]

On the same day, 50 polymarket accounts placed bets that the US and Iran would reach a Ceasefire before Trump announced it on social media. Overall, traders have placed over a billion dollars dollars in perfectly timed wagers relating to the Iran war. A recent analysis by the BBC of online bets placed throughout President Trump's second term found a consistent pattern of spikes just hours or sometimes minutes before a social media post or media statement from President Trump was made public.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

The timing of these bets and the

[John C. Dvorak]

huge windfalls they've created are raising concerns of ponce responsible insider trading. Prediction markets and platforms like Polymarket and its biggest competitor Kalshi are governed by the Commodities Futures Trading Commission or the cftc.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

This means they can avoid state level

[John C. Dvorak]

restrictions in place for traditional gambling and sports betting. Today a growing number of states are trying to stop this, but the Trump administration has pushed back. Trump's son Donald Trump Jr. Has advisory voters roles in both Polymarket and Kalshi.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, he should get off those boards. That's a really bad look.

[Adam Curry]

I agree.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That's a very bad look.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, this is. There's some guy, some soldier was busted and yeah, and there's been a lot of hanky panky but this whole thing is ripe for it. We've talked about this before as a prop bets get.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yes, yeah, but, but if you're the President's son and I do not think he is intellectually the same as the President, you know, he's, he's swarmy. There it is again. In fact, this is how schwarmy they are. Hold on, where is it?

[Adam Curry]

Swarmy.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Schwarmy.

[Adam Curry]

I'm not sure schwarmy is. There's no such word.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

What is the word? What is the word?

[Adam Curry]

Smarmy.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Smart. Smarmy.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It doesn't sound right. Smarmy. Yeah, smarmy. So finally this. I love our MAGA women here, the women of Fredericksburg. I know several women who had pre ordered this months and months and months ago. They were so excited about getting it. And finally it's here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gold casing, a flag stamped on the back. This long awaited T1 phone from Trump Mobile is finally here. It was in June last year that the President's sons announced announced a bold new venture. Today we're here to introduce Trump Mobile. The phone marketed as a patriotic alternative to big tech and promised as an American made phone. Trump Mobile said the phone would be released in August. NBC News put down the $100 deposit that same month. But nine months passed with 12 phone calls and countless emails to the company. But one day after this report last week, here we are in May of 2026 and there appears to be no sign of it. Someone on behalf of Trump Mobile contacted me and said devices were going out to the media and oh, okay, here it is. Here is the long awaited Trump Mobile phone. The phone is taller than an iPhone 17 and comes with 512 gigabytes of storage at a relatively cheap $499, which the company says is promotional pricing. Truth Social pre installed on the phone like any other phone, it can make calls, send texts, and takes pretty good photos too. The phone looks different from how it was originally advertised. The original language on the website said the phone would be made in the usa, language that has since been scrubbed from the website now saying American proud design with an American flag that has only 11 stripes. Experts say the phone resembles a phone made in Taiwan. Representatives for Trump Mobile did not respond to questions about whether the phone is made in the US and the White House did not confirm if President Trump himself is using the phone bearing his name.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's a piece of crap. I love the 11 stripes on the flag. That's my favorite. That is, that, you know, some dude in China went, oh, let's do this. That'll be hilarious.

[Adam Curry]

There's no room for all these stripes.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Can't fit all these stripes. And it is reminiscent of another president's phone.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everybody in Cleveland, low minority guys, Obama phone. Keep Obama in president. You know, he gave us a phone.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh man, what, what a canard this phone is. It's. It's a piece of crap Android. It's no good. Yeah, but it's gold.

[Adam Curry]

I'm looking at a picture of it now.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's gold, man. It's gold.

[Adam Curry]

It looks like every other phone.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

So we miss this. General Patton on the down low. Scott Besant was at the G7 Paris meeting and he, he laid down the law, man. He is, he's going after terror financing. And I had completely missed this, but here is a, here's a report about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

U.S. treasury Secretary Scott Besson called on allies to more forcefully disrupt Iran's financing network networks and said the treasury would scrub its sanctions list of outdated designations to make it easier for financial institutions to root out the most sophisticated terrorist financing schemes. In remarks prepared for delivery at an anti terrorism financing conference. After G7 finance leaders met in Paris, Besson said that participants needed to stand with us in full measure against Iran. Bent said that will require their European partners to join the United States in taking action against Iran by designating its financiers, unmasking its shell and front companies, shuttering its bank branches and dismantling its proxies as the Trump administration tries to pressure Tehran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz to unlock vital oil flows disrupted by the US Israeli attacks on Iran.

[Adam Curry]

Iran.

[John C. Dvorak]

The US treasury has stepped up its sanctions efforts through a program dubbed Economic Fury. It aims to disrupt Iran's shadow banking networks and has frozen nearly half a billion dollars worth of cryptocurrency linked to Iran's regime. Most US treasury sanctions are imposed on individuals, companies and other entities that are added to its specially Designated Designated Nationals list, which contains tens of thousands of designees that are cut off from the dollar based financial system and see assets frozen. Anyone that transacts with designated entities risks being sanctioned themselves. He said the most effective sanctions are aggressive and targeted and those left in place too long could create unintended consequences. He said the Treasury's approach would maintain agility to maximize effectiveness and cited examples of easing stability sanctions on Syria and Venezuela after regime changes as examples of how the Trump administration intends to adjust sanctions.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

So what Bessen didn't say, but what is in the anti terrorism document from the White House, I believe, is that all of this nonsense, all terrorism is ultimately funded through the Muslim Brotherhood and we know.

[Adam Curry]

Which is a creation of British MI6.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Exactly. So if you look at the OFAC list, this is the Office of Foreign Assets Control. I think it is. What is it? Ofac. I think that's what it is. Listen to the companies that are on the list. And now being that are sanctioned and blocked, we have London Domiciled tanker operators, Science Obedient International Co. Ltd. These are all UK company companies, double in global. Fortune Shipping Ltd. Luna Luster, all British companies, Sparkling Courage Ltd. UK company, Gala Rose Chemical Oil Tankers, UK company, all UK companies. This is, I think this is more significant than people realize. You know, they're cutting off these networks and it all goes back to the brick, all of it.

[Adam Curry]

Now I have a question. In the report, he says they froze crypto. How do you freeze crypto? I thought crypto was impossible to freeze.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, that's because they're using a general term. Iran, funny enough, had usdt, they had tether. Tether stable coin, which is completely controllable. And that's what he sees. Just click, just lock it up.

[Adam Curry]

So that's not going to encourage its use.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh no, but this is not for. If you want to do something illegal, you go to the, to the mag Daddy. You go to Bitcoin, you don't go to tether.

[Adam Curry]

Well, why didn't they go to Bitcoin?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Who says they didn't? It's very hard to prove if you ask the bitcoin community. Oh, yeah, it's all bitcoin. Okay, I'm sure. No, but they had. Part of that toll system was stablecoin. You remember we had the clip when they would say, oh, you got to come by us and go through the toll. And they were charging stablecoin, which is really easy to get, you know, then you don't have to go through a lot of, know, your customer KYC stuff. But I guess the Iranians, the guard didn't think about the fact that the general patent on the down low could just grab that. Which is exactly what you can do with Stablecoin. But stablecoin is not for us. Stablecoin is for the rest of the world. Stablecoin is for Venezuela, for South America, it's going to be for Cuba, it'll be for Iran. Eventually. Anyone who wants to have an American dollar in a digital dollar will be able to get stablecoin. And then you play along. Otherwise we take your stable coin. I'm under no illusion that's what, that's what they're doing here. But it's not, I mean, to say it's crypto is just dumb reporting,

[Adam Curry]

huh? Yeah, dumb reporting.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Go figure. Whoever thought that would happen? Dumb reporting. Exactly. But so if you. So people who say, you know, this war is, you know, is. Is not good for America. I disagree. I think we need. It's good to shut down all of this financing. Look, all the shipping run out of. Out of the uk. Screw that. We should be running that. I don't know if we're good at it, but we're going to find out. I heard from a guy yesterday that I met that I thought Lloyd's of London was just like one building and a whole bunch of people writing up insurance policies. That's not true. It's a trading floor. Did you know this?

[Adam Curry]

I always thought it was.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

It's a trading floor and it's always been that way. There's a movie about it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh, what is the movie? I'd love to see?

[Adam Curry]

I think it's called Lloyd's of London. It was done in the 30s, I

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

think, and they have all these different reinsurers, all with little booths on this trading floor and they're all bidding.

[Adam Curry]

That's like a stock market.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, Yeah, I didn't realize that. I thought it was just one big company that writes insurance policies or people

[Adam Curry]

like, you know, every so often you'd have Rod Stewart, you know. Or some famous person all being the. The. The underwriter for some insurance policy because they were in the. They did the trade to get it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh, well, that's interesting. I didn't. I didn't know that. I like it. All right, what else you got?

[Adam Curry]

And the market crashes.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well.

[Adam Curry]

Well, Putin went to China. I guess I got those clips.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, of course he went to China, because this is the ark. America, Russia, China, we're gearing up to. To kill the old world order. The dying world order. Man,

[Adam Curry]

I do want to play. We need to play that, but I also want to play the China listening devices clip.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Okay, here we go.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Before a single American boarded Air Force One to leave Beijing, staff lined up at the door with trash bins and everything China had given the US Delegation went straight into them. Credentials, burner phones, delegation pins, lanyards. Anything and everything handed out by Chinese officials during the summit. A pool reporter on the scene watched it happen in real time and reported nothing from China was allowed on the plane. Not a phone, not a pin, not a piece of paper. Let that image sink in for a moment. The most powerful delegation in the world just spent days in Beijing negotiating hundreds of billions of dollars in deals, smiling for cameras, shaking hands, sitting across the table from Xi Jinping. And the moment it was was over. Every single item China had touched went into a trash bin on the tarmac. This is not an accident. This is not over. Caution. This is the United States government operating on a doctrine that has been earned through decades of documented Chinese espionage. We already reported how the entire delegation arrived with burner devices. No personal phones, no personal laptops. We reported how US Federal government guidelines prohibited plugging into any Chinese USB port or charging station. We reported how every WI FI network in China was treated as compromised. Now we know the protocols held all the way to the last second on Chinese soil because here is what China does. They embed tracking technology in delegation pins. They install malware on phones through standard charging cables. They use hotel room key cards with embedded. Embedded chips to map movement patterns. They slip listening devices into gift bags and commemorative items. They have turned ordinary objects into intelligence collection tools, so effectively that American counterintelligence agencies now treat every Chinese origin item as a potential threat by default.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, could I do.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah. This is why Megan Kelly hates China so much.

[Adam Curry]

Do they spied on her?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No. But she and what's His Face, Glenn Greenwald were going on and on and on and on and on about. Here I have the clip.

[Adam Curry]

As far as the students, it's 500,000 students that come, good students. I could tell them I don't to

[John C. Dvorak]

want, want any students is a very

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

insulting thing to say to a country.

[Adam Curry]

They would then immediately go out and start building universities all over China.

[John C. Dvorak]

I frankly think that it's good that people come from other countries and they

[Adam Curry]

learn our culture and many of them want to stay here.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Oh, Glenn, Glenn. Who wants that? Literally what American wants. It was 300,000 Chinese students like two months ago. Now it's 500,000. And he goes on to say many of them will stay here. We don't want that either. We don't want them taking up our university slots at our most prestigious universities and we definitely don't want them staying, nor do we want them buying up American farmland.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there are some Americans who actually do want that, particularly Wall street and the corporate community. They love the relate they're in bed with the Chinese and always have been.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

They went on and on what I

[Adam Curry]

said, please, yeah, on and on and

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

on about the Chinese.

[Adam Curry]

When I was a kid and I went to Cal Berkeley, the place was filled with Chinese back then. That was before the Chinese took over the place.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, and bully for them because the jobs are not going to be in university. You're not going to need a piece of of paper paper to get a really good job anymore.

[Adam Curry]

How do you gonna get a good job?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, I will give you. Here's from cnbc.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Kyson's job doesn't require a four year degree. And as AI drives demand for data centers and the fiber networks that connect them. AT&T CEO John Stinky told my colleague Steve Liesman in an exclusive interview that the company needs more workers like Kyson.

[John C. Dvorak]

You need something to transport all that traffic that has to get in and out of those data centers. And that's fiber infrastructure. And we're building fiber right now faster than anybody else in this country. That's going to be essential to the AI generation. You brought in probably 10,000 technicians over the last three years that are the front side of this. Trying to make sure everybody's connected and has access to our fiber and wireless networks. We'll do a 3,000 this year. We find that we've got to go out and find them, train them and send them to come in. It's not like we're growing them on trees in the United States.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It sounds like you're saying there's sort of a misalignment between what the structure is to provide and train employees and what business especially AT&T needs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I probably have a point of view personally that as a society and within the United States, we put a huge premium in value socially on a college degree. And yet we're short H vac repair people. We're short electricians, technicians that can go in and work on fiber like we talk about. We maybe have missed the mark in some places.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Now listen to your Uncle Adam and Uncle John. Don't go to college. Whatever you do, don't go to college is another clip for him.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

So when you got to college, what made you realize that it wasn't working?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh, this is some kid who dropped out. Smart for you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I was miserable.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Kyson graduated high school with a 3.89 GPA.

[Adam Curry]

Graduated from high school. Way to go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you're getting good grades. Go to school.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

He immediately enrolled at Wright State University and planned to study either math or engineering.

[John C. Dvorak]

I wanted to work with my hands, but it was hard because I did get good grades, so it was expected to go to school. Once I started college, I was like, this is not for.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

After about three semesters, he dropped out.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was in the same four walls every day. Did not want to be there. I wanted more for myself. I was hungry to start life, and I felt like I was extremely stagnant. I was in accounting. I love my professor. I really do. I mean, looking back, I feel bad, but there was a guy that was sitting behind me, and we had just finished a midterm in the other class, and we both were, like, miserable. I was like, you ready for accounting? He said, nope, I'm going to get lunch. And I had never, ever, ever skipped class. And I said, you know what? I'm getting lunch with you. And I knew I was like, my priority is not school.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

After Kyson left college, he worked a mix of odd jobs. Retail, coaching, wrestling, laying solar panels, and he even rode bulls for a little while.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

I woke up one morning, said, I'm spending so many hours working and I'm not making enough. And I wanted a career. I wanted to be somewhere where I could move up in the company.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

AT&T was familiar to Kyson because his dad and grandfather worked there. But when he applied, he didn't tell his father.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's pride. Pride. I didn't want any strings pulled. I wanted my voice to speak for itself. I didn't want to be Jason's son or Cook's boy. I wanted to be Kyson.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, I think it was a jobs program for AT&T. They bought time on CNBC. See, but there's. There's hundreds of thousands of Jobs that are going to go unfilled and let all the Chinese go to the universities. It's fine. And the universities don't seem too high on AI these days either. You've heard the commencement speeches.

[Adam Curry]

No, I have not heard the commencement speeches. I usually don't.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

This is. Here's Gloria. Well, there's a lot of them. And I'm still waiting to do a couple commencement speech so I can become an honorary professor.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, you know, they don't give you that. They don't make you honorary professors. They give you a Ph of fake PhD.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'll take a PhD, but you

[Adam Curry]

can get that from the show if you wait long enough.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

You can get it from no Agenda. Who needs to go to college. Gloria Caulfield is a real estate person in Florida. She spoke at ucf.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

The rise of artificial intelligence is the next industrial revolution. Oh,

[Adam Curry]

Bo.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

What happened?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

What is happening?

[John C. Dvorak]

All right,

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

okay, we. We've got a bipolar topic here, I see.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yes, she got booed.

[Adam Curry]

And then there was somebody else that got booed off the stage recently.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Eric Schmidt. Schmidt.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it was Eric Schmidt. He did the same. Pulled the same.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Here it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Last December, Time magazine selected its Person of the year for 2025. And it was this time it was the Architects of Artificial Intelligence. Interesting.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Get out of here. You smoke? So today we stand on this edge

[John C. Dvorak]

of another technological transformation, one that will be larger, faster, and more consequential than what came before. It will touch every profession, every classroom, every hospital, every laboratory, every person and

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

every relationship you have.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know what many of you are feeling about that. I can hear you. There is a fear.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

People were walking out on him, which he's not used to. That. Dude, he's not used to that.

[Adam Curry]

Eric Schmidt's done okay for himself.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh, he's done very well for himself. It's fantastic.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, I knew him when he was at Novell, and he was just. He was a. You know, he really. His personality has changed quite a bit. His looks changed. I think he did some work done.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Didn't you get a really young girlfriend slash wife?

[Adam Curry]

He has a girlfriend and he's still married. He's one of those guys who can pull that off. I don't know how you did that, but.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Magic. Magic.

[Adam Curry]

So he's obviously a sales guy underneath it all. Baby, this is good for you.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Trust me, this is good for you. So then we had Google IO, the big presentation, Google IO. And Google has seen the last light. Google is going to create their own version of claudebot. But it doesn't run on your computer? No, no, no. It runs on Google Cloud. I got a couple of clips. This is too funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

Particularly excited for what we are bringing

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

right into the Gemini app. Hey, if we're going to get rid of Indians, start with this guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Particularly excited for what we are bringing right into the Gemini app. Introducing Gemini Spark.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Spark, it's your. Come on, man. You used to be a tech reporter. This should be exciting to you. It's Gemini Spark.

[Adam Curry]

I was always the tech reporter who was skeptical.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, I'm with you on this.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's your personal AI agent that helps you navigate your digital life, taking actions.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

What do you think it does when it helps you navigate your digital life?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it probably sets your calendar, wakes you up in the morning and it looks at your to do list and then makes another list for you that you won't get done. And then it tells you that you have an appointment at 2 o' clock

[John C. Dvorak]

on your behalf and under your direction. It runs on dedicated virtual machines on Google cloud and it's 24 7. And yes, you can close your laptop. Thanks, Sundar. It's great to see everyone. And let me show you how Spark works with.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

So get ready, John.

[John C. Dvorak]

Email your chats and grabs the most important information that you need through by step. Look at all these steps all the time. It saves you going through. And again, work across the various skills you can see creates right in Google Slides, perfectly integrated. And you can see it even pulls in things like our giant bounce house that's going to be in the cul de sac. Now all of this is the bounce house.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, this is. You caught it. So the AI Google Spark is so smart, it's going to do something very important with your bounce house that you have planned for for your back in

[Adam Curry]

the cul de sac.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

In the cul de sac pulls in

[John C. Dvorak]

things like our giant bounce house that's going to be in the cul de sac. Now, all of this is happening in the background and under my control. And what's amazing is Gemini can even go a step further, further and pull out things like your neighborhood homeowners association won't let you set this up before Friday afternoon at June 5th. That's pulling from a file in my Google Drive. So it's incredibly helpful about how it pulls it all together.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

This is perhaps the lamest example you could ever come up with because we all live on the cul de sac and we all have a giant bounce house. But he has.

[Adam Curry]

And we all have a homeowners association that Won't let you set up a bounce house until 5 o'. Clock.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

You need to move out of that homeowners association neighborhood. But here, here's a more practical example.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Spark is amazing at just brain dumping things on your mind. If you're super busy, it's almost. You can just throw tasks over your shoulder.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Super busy, man. You can throw stuff over your shoulder. I'm telling you. Listen to this.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you're super busy, it's almost. You can just throw tasks over your shoulder. Sparkle. Catch them and then run with them.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Okay?

[John C. Dvorak]

So watch this.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Watch.

[John C. Dvorak]

Start a few threads for me. The first one, find all the upcoming meetings with Sundar and turn them all hot pink so I don't miss them. The second one. Last night, I met our new neighbor, John. Write a note to him and his family. Invite them to our block party because they weren't on our list originally. The third one, create a document with the top things my wife and I need to do for the kids before the end of the school year. Categorize it by deadline and priority. Make it easy to digest. I don't want to miss anything. All right, so we'll send that in and you can see at the speed of my voice, it's taking that one task and it will capture all of that context as fast as I can talk. It starts out as a single thread here and in the background, it's actually going to go through and break those down into individual tasks. Now I can just put my phone away and. And get on with my day. And Spark works in the background for me. We'll check in later, see how it's doing.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

How do you check in?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I don't know, but it's going to happen later.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Wonderful, Wonderful.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can see this is one of the first times we've been able to put a phone down and let it keep working on the IO stage. It's great because we're prioritizing.

[Adam Curry]

It's not on the phone.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No, it's not. It's in the cloud.

[Adam Curry]

So you put your phone down. You didn't put your phone down. You hit the phone with a hammer. Doesn't make any difference. It's working in the cloud.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's in the cloud.

[Adam Curry]

Were they kidding?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you got to put your phone down now.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Listen to what this is going to cost.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the future, you'll be able to create new docs and edit them directly all with your voice. Docs Live is rolling out for Pro and Ultra subscribers this summer, and the same powerful Voice capabilities will come to Gmail and Google. Keep then too. Incredible to see the pace of innovation rolling out across our products. Supporting all of this at scale for our users while also serving enterprises and developers around the world requires massive investments in infrastructure. And we've been investing for today and for the future. In 2022, we were spending $31 billion annually in capex. This year we expect that number to be about six times that. Approximately 180 to $190 billion.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Whoa, whoa. $190 billion? On, on, on. Turning your emails pink in the cloud. This doesn't seem right.

[Adam Curry]

Doesn't seem right.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

This is not the future of computing, I can tell you that right now. Now that's not how it's going to go down.

[Adam Curry]

Not with that kind of money.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That is insane. Anyway, it's all going to be on your.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you know, you. I'm going to give you a borderline clip of the day for having that insanity on here.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Thank you. You want to do something before we thank some people?

[Adam Curry]

Well, let me see if I got one last clip here. The Putin clips, but there's nothing really important there. The slush fund clips, that's always good for a laugh. Elon Musk lost the lawsuit. I'm just wrapping things up here for people.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

The slush fund clip, I like that. Because first of all, everyone's categorizing it as a slush fund for Trump's allies. It's a very interesting deal that the President made with himself, himself by setting up by saying, okay, I'll drop my $10 billion lawsuit for the IRS spying on me, which arguably is a big deal. That they spied or they, they released his, his documents.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it was.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I mean, that's a huge deal. That, that's. I mean, I wish it had happened to me. I don't know if I get 10 billion. But you get something out of it if you have suits and boots on the case. And then he turns around, says, well, I'll do a deal and let's get some money together for people who were,

[Adam Curry]

who got screwed over. Got screwed over, and old grandmas that weren't even at the event, they got thrown in jail. This is a horrible situation that nobody wants to discuss.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

So two points. One, the actual amount of the fund is $1.776 billion. None of the news media really said that. 1.8.

[Adam Curry]

No, they did. They did.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh, well, most of them were 1.8. 1.8. 1.8.

[Adam Curry]

No, I heard 1776.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Not the predominant number. And the second thing, I know two people personally whose lives were destroyed. The J6 or Jenny, she's hanging on by a thread. You know, her whole life was destroyed. She got run out of town. She had a, I think a soldier lawn and she was called a terrorist and her entire life was destroyed. And so that's when she.

[Adam Curry]

Well, hopefully she. Well, let's see if she gets money.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, she should. And also Luke Coffey. Luke is the guy who had the crutch over his head telling everybody to pray and was arrested for apparently beating cops over the head with his crutch, of which there's no evidence. His life was completely destroyed. He's now producing Lara Logan's podcast to just give you an example of what happened, happened to him.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

So we want Luke disaster. We want Luke to get some money too. Absolutely, absolutely. So. But that's not the way to get the money. Yeah, but that's not why. Yeah, well, that's.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

We.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, I got three clips and we can play. Okay, let's get him out of the way. This is the first one. Let's start with the grilling of Senator Todd Blanch. Senators get Todd Blanche over slush fund.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche face bipartisan backlash over the creation of 2 billion dollar fund.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

The President has set up a slush

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

fund and he literally will get to choose through his hand picked appointees who gets paid that fund. That is absurd.

[John C. Dvorak]

The President did not set up this fund. It's not a slush fund.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Ask repeatedly whether those who assaulted police officers on January 6 could be paid. Blanche didn't rule it out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you feel they should get compensation

[Adam Curry]

after being convicted of violent X?

[John C. Dvorak]

My feelings don't, don't matter. Senator, in my mind, my mind is

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

not limiting to say, yes, I will

[John C. Dvorak]

commit to this or that.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

At the White House, the Vice President was pressed on the same issue.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're not trying to give money to anybody who attacked a police officer. We're trying to compensate people where the book was thrown at them. They were mistreated by the legal system.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

The fund was established after President Trump dropped his 10 billion dollar law against the IRS over the leak of his tax returns. As part of the settlement, the DOJ said today the IRS is forever barred from prosecuting past or existing audits into the President, his family and the Trump Organization. Do you believe those terms are fair?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that there are and will be continue to be a lot of questions around that.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Tonight, some of the police officers who defended the Capitol on January six tell me if this new Anti weaponization fund is used to pay those who committed the attack. It's, quote, insane and could jeopardize their safety. Tony.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Well, then let's take it to these clips which discuss a little bit about the DOJ IRS situation. This DOJ IRS forever banned from auditing Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tonight, in an extraordinary move, the Justice League Department declared the IRS is, quote, forever barred and precluded from auditing President Trump, his family, his oldest sons and their companies, or pursuing any claims for past actions. It's part of the unprecedented settlement after President Trump dropped his $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS. The deal was orchestrated by the head of the DOJ, Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche, who is Trump's former personal attorney. Blanche faced tough questions on Capitol Hill today.

[Adam Curry]

You're the president's consigliere.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Your perspective is respectful.

[Adam Curry]

I think the facts will prove me right.

[John C. Dvorak]

The president's settlement also creates a nearly $1.8 billion fund. Taxpayer money to pay for Trump allies or anyone else who claims they were mistreated by the Biden Justice Department.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I love all the little gotchas in it. Tax taxpayer money. Slush fund allies.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a group that includes the roughly 600 people charged with obstructing or assaulting police on January 6th.

[Adam Curry]

Assaulting police. Bull crap.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I know. They just bring all that back. They bring it all back.

[John C. Dvorak]

Police on January 6th.

[Guest/Interviewee]

Will individuals who assaulted Capitol Hill police officers be eligible for.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

For this fund? Well, as it makes plain, anybody just

[Guest/Interviewee]

let me know if they're eligible for the fund.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Anybody in this country is eligible to

[John C. Dvorak]

apply if they believe they're a victim. Weaponization.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I think this show is a victim of this weaponization because we had to speak, speak against. We had to speak truth to power. And we were telling everybody that, no, that's not true. And people left in a huff. And I think it, it hurt our income and I think we should put it in a claim.

[Adam Curry]

Talk to Rob at the White House.

[John C. Dvorak]

I followed up with Vice President J.D. vance. I assume you're not going to apply. You don't think you should get money out of this. So isn't it just as easy to say that people that attacked police officers should not get taxpayer money from this fund? Well, look, John, we're not trying to give money to anybody who attacked a police officer. We're trying to give money, not give money. We're trying to compensate, give money. Book was thrown at them. They were.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

He screwed up there. We're trying to give money, I mean, not give money, compensate, trying to give

[John C. Dvorak]

Money to anybody who attacked a police officer. We're trying to give money, not give money. We're trying to compensate people where the book was thrown at them. They were mistreated by the legal system. We do have people who were accused of attacking law enforcement officers. That doesn't, that, that, that doesn't mean that we're going to completely ignore some of the claims that they're going to make. It's a very complex building. It comes as Republicans are trying to set aside another $1 billion in taxpayer money for President Trump's new ballroom. They say it's for security. Back to that $1.8 billion fund, some of which could go to people who attacked the capitol building on January 6th. It's the, it's not just Democrats who don't like it. Senate Republican Leader John Thune said today, quote, I am not a big fan.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yes, here's the President himself explaining the fund.

[John C. Dvorak]

But this is reimbursing people that were horribly treated. Horribly treated.

[Adam Curry]

It's anti weaponization. They've been weaponized. They've been, in some cases, imprisoned wrongly.

[John C. Dvorak]

They paid legal fees that they didn't have. They've gone bankrupt, their lives have been destroyed, and they turn out to be right. I mean, it was a terrible period of time in the history of our country, and they worked on it. I know the Justice Department, it's really been working on it very hard. There's been numerous other occasions over the years where things like this have been done, but these were people that were weaponized and really treated brutally by a system that was so corrupt, with corrupt people running it, and they're getting reimbursed for their legal fees and the other things that they had to suffer. Yeah, please.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, I, I, I gotta tell you, I mean, I've seen the damage that that did, and I, I'd like to see J6 or Jenny and Luke get some money out of it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's hope they do. Let's hope they put a claim in.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh, well, I know Luke has a claim. I got, I got to talk to Jenny about it.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sure I'm make sure she does it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah. Maybe part two. Part two, Rob should help them. No, that was part two. That was your part.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I have a part three, which is Comey.

[John C. Dvorak]

Former FBI Director James Comey faces trial later this summer on charges he threatened President Trump's life. The case stems from this Instagram post a year ago, a photo of shell spelling out 8647. Prosecutors say the slang term 86 meant intent to do harm to Mr. Trump, the 47th president. It is the second indictment against the former FBI director in one of several investigations and lawsuits involving people President Trump sees as his political enemies. Comey also has a new crime novel out, Red Verdict. It's a legal thriller centered on Russian espionage. I spoke with him earlier today. Former FBI Director James Comey, welcome to the NewsHour.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's great to be with you.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want to start with your reaction to this DOJ announcement today. The department says it's creating a nearly $1.8 billion fund, taxpayer money to compensate Trump allies who say they were unfairly targeted by the previous administration. What kind of precedent does this set?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I've never heard of it, and I first thought it was an Onion piece when I read about it. I don't know how it will work and how it will be administered. Kiddingly. Want to know? Do I get to apply? Do all victims of weaponization get to ask for attorney's fees? We'll have to see.

[John C. Dvorak]

Would you submit a claim?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I might, maybe just to be humorous about the whole thing. But if it's for people who've been targeted for reasons other than the normal standards of the Department of Justice, I'm ready to get in line

[Adam Curry]

now. You're gonna have to look this clip up. This clip is called Comey on Trump, January 2021.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Comey on Trump.

[Adam Curry]

Let me set it up.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, I don't see it. John Comey. Is it Comey on Trump?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. K C O M E Y on Trump. Is the name, name of it?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I'm not seeing it.

[Adam Curry]

It's from three weeks ago.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I believe you, but I don't have any. Comey on Trump. Comey on msnbc. About Trump.

[Adam Curry]

No, it says Comey. Well, that actually might be the same clip.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

What are the principal points of danger within the Justice Department if there's another Trump presidency?

[John C. Dvorak]

Given his nature, given what you know

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

about him, he is a threat to the rule of law in America. That's, to me, that's what this election is about. Not about policy differences. It's about what kind of country are we going to be if he has the ability, smarter than he was last time, to use the power of the Department of Justice and the FBI to target his enemies, especially the rule of law in America will change in a way we haven't seen in our lifetime.

[John C. Dvorak]

When you say target his enemies, how would he do that?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, I think the first thing he would do is he would express it in his first term as a wish. I Want people to go after so and so I want people to go after Andrew McCabe, the former deputy director of the FBI. In a second term, he would go a step further, I'm highly confident, and say I want him criminally investigated.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he would have.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

He was close to the bottom of the barrel. That's not it.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's because you can't find it because it is in the pile. Let me see. Make sure. Yeah, it says comey C O M E Y. Oh, well,

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I'm sorry.

[Adam Curry]

Anyway, in 2021, he was the worst. Oh, I got it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I found it. I found it.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, let me tell you what this clip is. This is. This is an example of pre. This is an example of, of using the Justice Department as a weapon.

[John C. Dvorak]

Convict him, bar him from future service.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Have the prosecutors, the local prosecutors in New York pursuit, sue him for the fraudster that he was before he ever became president. Lock him up for the garden variety

[John C. Dvorak]

Florence he did there.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

But don't give him that center stage, that dominant role in our national life just down the street where Joe Biden is trying to heal this nation. Yeah,

[Adam Curry]

lock him up.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Lock him up.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, that's reasonable.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's also fake gay.

[Adam Curry]

The guy's a creep. I mean, I think that they're. This thing about the 8647 is a bit much, but you know, they're. They're sending a message and with that

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

as it is a value for value program where we. I haven't heard an ad in the past two hours. Have you heard of an ad? You haven't heard any ads? No. That's because we have chosen a different path. And I would like to thank you, John C. Dvorak, for your courage. You are the man who put the C in the. The Castro indictment. Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.

[Adam Curry]

Well, good morning you, Mr. Adam Cray. And good morning to all ships that sea. Boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the water and all the dames tonights in the morning to the

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

CH for a second. 13:29. It's vacation time.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's a holiday coming up.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yep, holiday coming up. It's how it always rolls. That's what happens. And of course we have vbs, which I just learned today is a thing. Vbs.

[Adam Curry]

What? Vbs?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Vbs? Yes. Vacation Bible School. I had no idea people are in vbs. Vacation Bible School.

[Adam Curry]

So why don't you just go to. Okay.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Why don't you just go to what?

[Adam Curry]

Bible school?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No, it's vacation Bible school.

[Adam Curry]

Bible school, what's the difference?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

You go to it on vacation.

[Adam Curry]

Well, why don't you just go to it?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, maybe they do, but then they do it during the vacation, too. I don't know. I'm just telling you that people are out because of VBS is what I'm hearing. Like, I can't make a man vbs. I don't know. So, as I said before, we are value for Value operated, which means we. We only ask you to send us some value when you feel you have received value from the product program. Now, I'm see the people are already trying. It's typically in the summer, man, I'm telling you, people have not been able to do meetings with me because their kids are in VBS. I don't know. Or they're teaching VBS. So value for value. We started this over 18 years ago. We think that it's the best way to run an honest podcast, particularly when it is regarding news and current events and culture and politics. So you get the true honest honesty from us. And it shows because a lot of people get mad and go away, and we just keep doing the same thing. And so if donations are down, that's just because you didn't feel you got any value from it. But it turns out a lot of people continue to find value in our analysis. And you can support us with your time, your talent, or your treasure. We thank everybody who supports us financially with $50 or above. And that is a wonderful way to show value, to return the value that you got from the program. Or you can do things like, I don't know, prompt away, make some artwork. And this is valuable for a couple of reasons. Not only is a good piece of art valuable for us to use to promote the show as the album art, but also it tells us what's hitting a nerve when you know or when we did something that you liked that you found very valuable. And it was fun to watch, fun to see. Well, first we should probably thank the person whose art we actually used. And that was for our episode 1869. We titled that trollery. This was controversial on the inside of the program. I wasn't too sure about it. Blue Acorn created a curry and Dvorak Choke me Chili cook off with the OG Catholic in action. The Pope with his little CIA hat and his CIA insignia. Then two babes making the chili. John wanted it, and I succumbed to it. But it was fun to see people really picking up on dead mice. Mice being Mutilated in glue traps. The blueberry got a lot of traction. A lot of blueberry art for some reason was interesting. And what else did we see, John?

[Adam Curry]

Just nothing good.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

We had no, you know what it's like. There's these new models that people are using and again they're over complicating things. It's too much. It's just, it's too busy. It's too much going on. I'm not even sure if we see anything fantastic yet. So now it's all babes. See, this is what happens. I should have mentioned this to you. When you choose a piece of art with this babes, then everyone thinks, oh yeah, that's how, that's how I'll get my art chosen. Need to do more babes.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we don't do babes that much. Looking at the last few pieces, How many have babes?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

What the first one, two, skip three?

[Adam Curry]

No, the numb nuts has no babes.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh, oh, oh no, but I'm saying since we chose babes on the passage.

[Adam Curry]

Oh no, yeah, I'm talking about that are actually picked with babes. Yeah, but we have numbness nuts and we have a mouse.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I know, but we have once you

[Adam Curry]

do beige with mice all over it, black and white cartoony thing and then a bunch of pills that show insanity. I'd say once a month.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I know, but the psyche of Gitmo Nation, our producers is oh babes. I just need to do babes. And now it's all this is the

[Adam Curry]

way it is with everything. It's like it's follow the leader. Oh well that worked then let's do it again.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, probably right. So yeah, so that's probably not going to work this time but thank you very much.

[Adam Curry]

No babes. No two in a row. Babes.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No, definitely not. Thank you very much. Blue Acorn. We appreciate you. We support all, we appreciate all kinds of support. People do meetups, we've got people sending in clips. We had a great boots on the ground earlier. All of this is incredibly appreciated. It is the value for value model. If you want to support us financially, you can do that by going to to noagendadonations.com and that is where we thank the following people. And the way it works is $200 or above. Between 200 and $300. Not only are you guaranteed that we will read your note, but also you will get an associate executive producer credit which is good anywhere Hollywood credits are recognized, including IMDb.com go ahead and see some of the big Hollywood names In there along with Thousands of others. $300 or more executive producer credit. And we will read your note. And we have a limited product promotion for the Red Knight Order of the Heart. And I believe we have at least two to award today as we start with Sir Ronald Lafery from Livermore, Washington, who comes in with $1,000 and the note I see is. Note the address change. Is that his official note?

[Adam Curry]

That's all we got.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Note the address change. Well, your address.

[Adam Curry]

I didn't even know there was a Livermore in Washington.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Isn't Livermore like Boston, Massachusetts?

[Adam Curry]

No, Livermore is right outside of California, outside of Pleasant Hill, around Pleasanton in the Bay Area.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Livermore Scaramanga in the troll room asks if we're sure Adam isn't gay.

[Adam Curry]

What?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah, I know, right? This is what they're busy with over there.

[Adam Curry]

So.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Sir Ronald Lafferty. I wish we had a note to read, but I don't know. We'll give him a double up Karma just to make sure we take care of that.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

You've got double up Karma.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

And you will become one of the few exclusive Red Knights Order of the Heart, which comes with a beautiful pin and. And a certificate of authenticity and some more goodies in a beautiful red envelope.

[Adam Curry]

Another Order of the Red Heart coming up here with Sir Salah Hauser is already a night in Melbourne, Florida. Thousand dollars. ITm wishing you a quick and full recovery. John, I think you're there already.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Already. Man, you seem recovered.

[Adam Curry]

I still. I my balance. I still have to do these balancing exercises.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

What?

[Adam Curry]

I should take Tai chi. Physical therapist.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Is it like a sobriety test? We have to stand on one leg and touch your feet?

[Adam Curry]

If I have to do that. Yeah. I wouldn't. I'd probably have some issues with some of the crazy stuff that cops make you do.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Have you driven your car? Are you allowed to drive?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I've driven, sure.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Cool. Sir, Secretary General, Commodore SX64 from Granger, Texas comes in with $555. And we're very grateful for that. And he says. Gentlemen, to add to John's tip of the day about the stirrup hoe, I own multiple. The best way to use it is to. This is a tip. The best way to use it is to sever the roots from the greenery about half an inch below the surface. That way it will not regrow the wheel. Stirrup hoe is the most effective, but as of recent, True temper has a 14 inch mini hoe that has done wonders for close in hand weeding. In my world, it's like a six shooter for Weeds. This is the kind. What other podcast gives you this kind of information?

[Adam Curry]

None.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Keep up the good work and take your time with the exit strategies. We enjoy what you do, sir. Secretary General Commodore SX64 Commodore 64 huh?

[Adam Curry]

Dennis Katie or Kate is Katie or Catl cattle in Tampa, Florida 333.33 ITM gentleman from the Manuka Gold We're. Oh, is our Manuka Gold guy?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

We're happy to continue to support the show. Since Adam mentions our relief gel, we've been thrilled by all the emails and phone calls we get from listeners who have generally found relief from their chronic pain. It's been very humbling to know our product has helped so many people. And for Memorial Day, we decided to give away a free small size Manuka Gold CBD relief gel to any purchase exclusively for the listeners who show up every week and support the amazing podcast. Go to manukagold.com and use code ITM free. We do offer an what?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Arnica version.

[Adam Curry]

Arnic. What's that?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

We use an Arnic. We do an Arnica version for people who can't use cbd. This must be some other chemical. So if you'd like one without cbd, just put a note in the memo section when you make your purchase. Thank you again to Adam and John for Truly what? Truly is the best podcast in the universe. Dennis, Kate.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

All right. And that's our executive producers. Associate executive producer Amy Moritz comes in from Leawood, Kansas with a row of ducks 222.22 and says hi, John and Adam. Please give a shout out to my two human resources, Ben and Laney. Keep up the good work. And she wants Rubbleyzer Karma now. We don't. I thought the we. The Rubbleizer is exclusively for Rubbleizer. So we can't really do that. I mean Rubble.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah. We made that a Rubbleizer donation only.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah. So I will.

[Adam Curry]

That's been limited.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yes, I will give you a Karma.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Of course you've got Karma.

[Adam Curry]

Chad Finkbiner in Highland Heights, Ohio 222.2 to another row of ducks. Thank you for. For keeping me informed. And for the last no Agenda is the best podcast on this side of the ice wall. He's a flat earther.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Lady Vox, I think in the troll room says wow, really? Arnica is a beautiful herb that heals bruising and heals muscular hurts and is amazing. I'm sorry.

[Adam Curry]

Never heard of it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I'm sorry. We disappointed you Fox.

[Adam Curry]

Really?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's like those emails you get. I am amazed that you missed this. We miss a lot.

[Adam Curry]

We don't know anything about stuff.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No, we. In fact, we know nothing about anything.

[Adam Curry]

No, we just learn on the show.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

That's right, Martell Hard. Thank you for teaching us, lady Vox. Martell hardware is in Broomall, Pennsylvania. $210.60 and says JCD. I'll keep it short because John appreciates that Martel hardware coupon coupon code Acerbic. There you go. More freebies for you trolls.

[Adam Curry]

I thought it was Acer Bic Acerbic. Isn't that Eli the coffee Guy in Bensonville, IL 20521? It's a slow week and new, so I'll keep it simple and deliver some good news of our own. We just released our Honduran organic as a dark roast for a limited time. Smooth, well rounded and worth a try. If you're due for something new in the roast rotation, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code ITM20 for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated. Eli the coffee guy.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Thank you very much, Eli. We appreciate that. And our last associate executive producer, she's always there with $200 and we appreciate that very much. Lenny Loupatkin from Castle Rock, Colorado. She wants jobs, karma and she says your Resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't. For a resume that gets Results, go to ImageMakersInc.com Linda helps professionals and executives turn their experience clear story of leadership, results and impact. That's image makers Inc. With a K. And Linda Liu, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've got karma.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

And we continue now with the rest of our time. Talent treasure supporters with value. Coming back to the show and at 12345 is Nathan Cochran from Franklin, Tennessee. Nathan, of course, bass player for Mercy me, not a small band. And I will be seeing him this weekend. Tina and I are going to Nashville for the big K love music festival.

[Adam Curry]

What's the K Love music festival?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's a festival with music and it's in Tennessee, in Nashville.

[Adam Curry]

Why is it calove? What's K Love?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

K Love is a radio station that organizes. They're very big. They have like 400 stations around the country and Mercy Me is performing. So we'll be here.

[Adam Curry]

Backstage pass.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh, no, I don't even need a pass. They. They have their roadie come out and get us that's the coolest. Hey, go get Adam and Tina. We're in. We're in, man. We're in like Flynn. Nathan, check your levels, man. You've got to be at least a baronet by now, if not more. Jason Hole, I'd say Jason Hulsing. And chen has Minnesota. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And I will point out, he says this is seed money for John to set up his Only Fans account. Well, that's very nice. Do you need money to set up an Only Fans?

[Adam Curry]

It's not free, so I think you just need to sign up.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Spencer Richter in Craig, Arkansas. 100. Thank you. Ian Field, 100. Kevin McLaughlin. There he is. Concord, North Carolina, with the Boo donation. $80.08. 8008. He is the Archduke of Luna. Lover. America and boobs. And he says, God bless America and boobs. Ladies, it's melon season. Time to show them off. A melon song for end of the show. Sorry, man, I don't have any for you. Nicholas Leary, 7272 from Columbus, Ohio. Dame Becky from Arlington, Washington. 6996. We see what you did there. And the same is for Sir Paul, who is back with a donation from Twickenham. And he says, as much as I love John, when is Mimi coming back to do another episode? 69. 69, he says. Dame Reed of Sparks, Nevada. $68.33. Thank you. Dame Rita Baron Henry of Outpost west ranchos, Palos Verdes, CA. 59.92. Samuel Nagel, Athens, GA. Double nickels on the dime. Reese Longhurst, Bath and Bath. That's in the uk. Once a de douche.

[Adam Curry]

You've been de douched.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Thank you, Reese Longhurst, and welcome. There you go.

[Adam Curry]

I've been to Bath.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I've been to Bath, too.

[Adam Curry]

Funny enough, yeah, they got Roman baths. They got called baths.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Funny enough. They got baths, indeed. Kent O', Rourke, Frostburg, Maryland. 5270 Forest Martin. 50,05 cents. I've seen that one often. 5005. Same for Andrew Benz. 1505. Here are our $50 supporters. Andrew Goosek in Greenboro, North Carolina. Terrence Boyer in Tuscola, Illinois. Grant Clift in Cherryville, North Carolina. Ryan Acedo in Argyle, Texas. Amy Galenas in Burien, Washington, Washington. Lindsay Christensen. $50 says congrats, Massey. They didn't deserve you anyway. Chris Campisi, Round Rock, Texas. Thank you for your courage. Got a bonus at work. Wanted to pass along some value. Thank you very much, Chris. Patrick Bomer. Bomer in amstelveen, the Netherlands, $50. And says Chavon, for the best podcast of the universe. All the best for John E.H. grutjes. For you, Adam. We are a multilingual part podcast. So Yogi, Night of the carnival Midway in Washington, $50. Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington, 50. A lot of Washingtonians. And John Mara, also from Washington, $50. And that wraps up all of our value for value Treasure supporters, $50 and above. And we want to always thank our executive and associate executive producers profusely because you help us out a lot. And remember, those credits are real.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave. Shut up, slave.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

So very interesting. Today we have no nights, no dames, no birthdays, which. How often does that happen? Happen? Like, not rarely, not very often at all. We do have a make good from Nick Della Croce, your favorite make good

[Adam Curry]

note, but it's not really.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

What does that mean?

[Adam Curry]

As you read it, you can read it and you'll see what I'm talking about.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Should I not read it?

[Adam Curry]

No, you should read it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Okay, I'm gonna read it. I'm reading it. Oh, you want me to read it out loud? Oh, okay. Nick Della Croce.

[Adam Curry]

No, just read it. We're good.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yeah. Nick Della Croce. My recurring monthly donations have officially brought me to associate executive producer I the show after Adam's Joe Rogan appearance during COVID and I've been a religious listener ever since. I was graduating college when I started tuning in, and honestly, you two changed the trajectory of my life. Wow. I'm very grateful. I stumbled onto no agenda at that point in my life. Adam, my girlfriend and I had the pleasure of meeting you at a meetup in Fredericksburg. I know exactly who this is. A few months ago, after chatting together, you looked at us and said, you two need to get married. You have a really good thing going on there. Or something like that. My girlfriend's. Exactly. Exact words. Exact words afterward. Wow, he's so tall and so handsome for his age. See, this girl is a keeper. John, you're the goat. My girlfriend also finds you absolutely hilarious. Laugh a little too hard at your jokes. If I'm being honest, you two both keep me sane and thinking clearly. Thank you for everything you do. Show after show, please call up my father, Vince Della Croce, as a douchebag in the morning from Nick Della Croce, your favorite gen zer in Austin, Texas. P.S. my smokin hot girlfriend is a private chef, classically trained, lived in Spain and Italy, studying, food. If you're ever looking for someone for a dinner party or special event, reach out. She's the real deal. Done. Done, I say. Done. We just celebrated our anniversary. That would have been very cool. Well, didn't.

[Adam Curry]

All right, so let's straighten something out here for our zetters that don't seem to have missed the book vote. You don't accumulate for Associate Executive producer. You don't accumulate for Executive Producer. You don't accumulate for Red Knight. You don't accumulate for PhDs. You don't accumulate for anything except knights and all the. All the things that come after night, like barons and dukes and the rest. That's it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Very good. Now, you also don't, as you said, you don't accumulate for a Red Knight. That comes only with a one time donation. And we have two today.

[John C. Dvorak]

Behold the Order of the Heart.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Pure of purpose.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right from the stars in the morning, Brave and smart. The Order of the Heart.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

And we very much appreciate our Red Knights Order of the Heart 2 today. Which is a nice score. And I think we only have 50 of them. So if you want these, you better get in on this good deal. Now. Sir Ronald Lafferty and Sir Sanna Hauser. Both of you are hereby official Red Knights. The Order of the Heart. Congratulations.

[John C. Dvorak]

Behold the Order of the Heart. Pure of purpose right from the start. In the morning, Brave and smart. The Order of the Heart.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

No agenda. And still no. I don't have any good meetup reports, people. You're falling down on the job. But there's a lot of meetups taking place today. In fact, Charlotte's thirsty. Third Thursday monthly meetup. That'll be at seven o' clock at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. Tomorrow the first march March Marciak. Oh, this is our Baroness Isabelle Pierson. The first Marquillac no agenda mixer. 7:30 in pure Garderos in Mon Lazun Guerres, France. I hope somebody shows up. If not, it doesn't matter. Baroness Isabel, please send us a meetup report. Even if it's just you. But I have a feeling we may have some people who drop by. They're all there for the Tour de France. You see on Saturday the trifectas and trolls local extraction meet up 1230 in Delaware Park, Stanton, Delaware. Saturday on number 75 for Flight of the no agendas Leo Bravo now organizing that in the Proud Bird in Los Angeles, California. Goonies in the boonies on Saturday at 5 o'. Clock. New York Pizza Department, Hickson, Tennessee. Oh man, there's two meetups Saturday night and I'm going to be in Nashville. See if I can visit one of these. Because we also have the Franklin getting fired up for summer meetup. 6 o' clock at Salvos Pizza in Franklin. So we have Hickson, Tennessee and Franklin, Tennessee. Then on Sunday, our next show day and I'll be doing that from Nashville. We drink and we know things. I need a drink edition, 2 o' clock at 3 BR Distillery in Keyport, New Jersey. Also on Sunday, the no ID pop up 4:30 at the Alibi Room in Vancouver, British Columbia. Day. So Monday, Monday, a meet up on Monday. That's kind of rare. Monday madness in Sequim. Ah, yes, it's the 30th. That is Bar Hop Brewing in Sequim. That'll be on the 30th. And of course, of course. Is that the 30th already? No, that can't be the 30th. That's not the 30th, is it? That doesn't make any sense. Well, I think. No, that's the 25th. Is that the one Mimi's going to in Squim?

[Adam Curry]

Well, the one in Sequim is the one she's going to.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, then that's the one on Monday. What we do have coming up on the 30th is Anchorage, Alaska. So please, people. Oh, and then we have. I just have to mention this one. June 6, Bila Cherkva in Kiev Oblast, Ukraine. Man, we get around with these meetups. We have people everywhere in the world, even in war zones. So go to noagendameetups.com and find out where you can join the party. Make some connection because these connections give you protection. Everybody you meet at no Agenda meetup will be a first responder in any emergency you have. Check them out. Go find one near you. If you can't find one near you, here's an easy solution. Start one. It's free, it's easy and guaranteed. Always a party. Noagendameetups.com.

[Adam Curry]

It's like a party now.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

This is weird. I had. It's very odd. I had

[Adam Curry]

what?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

My meetups are missing. My ISOs are missing. How does that happen?

[Adam Curry]

You didn't do any.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I did. I certainly did do meetups. I had four of them.

[Adam Curry]

You said meetups, not ISO.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I mean ISO. I'm confused. All right. I'm confused.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, apparently, yes.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

My ISOs. The ISOs, those are missing. How do they go missing? All right, well, I guess you win. But this is like a.

[Adam Curry]

This is a Cheap ass way to get out of it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Well, I can't help it. I mean, I've lost them. I could spend an hour looking for them. I mean, if. If you really want to wait. But I'm.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I don't want. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, well, you get two chances here. Here we go. Which one do we play first?

[Adam Curry]

Let's start with. Nailed it.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

These two geniuses nailed it again.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Hey, a little. She got a little British there at the end. That's interesting.

[Adam Curry]

A little British accent.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Yes.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

Nailed it again.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

She starts in American and ends up in English.

[News Reporter/Correspondent]

These two geniuses nailed it again.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Nailed it again. Okay, we nailed this again then. What's the other one?

[Adam Curry]

Better podcast.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Is there a better podcast than this? I think not. All right, well, we know what the answer is.

[Adam Curry]

Of course.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

There's none better than that. Hey, time for the tip of the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with Jason, CD and sometimes Adam.

[Adam Curry]

All right, so this is kind of a. It has a double effect because it also plugs a veterans operation. Veteran owned, very nice. Half Blind Rabbits, the name of the company. And they make something called Screw Lube two. I'm sorry, Screw lube. And it's a two ounce wood screw container of this. Of screw a lube for screws. That's better than beeswax. It's better than soap. It's good for. If you got like a 3 or 4 inch screw that you got to put into some wood you want.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Screw lube.

[Adam Curry]

Wood screw lubricant from Half Blind Rabbit. And you can find it on Amazon. It's about nine bucks. And it's a superior product. Is something everyone should have for their. The pros use it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I have. I've screwed a lot. I cannot ever recall using screw lube. Is that something you're supposed to use for.

[Adam Curry]

For screwing if you're going into wood? Yeah, and it's a. If you're going. Say you got more than an inch or two inches. Say you got to go in two inches. You have to back it off and push it back in and back it off. No, you just use this stuff, go straight through and it doesn't stain and it doesn't cause issues. It doesn't cause problems. Yeah, you're supposed to use screw lube.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

I can hear about 5 end of show mixes coming from this very conversation. Give me the name of the product again, John, so people can go find that screw lube. Screw lube, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

There you go.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Another fine tip from John. C. Dvorak. Find them all atnoendafun.com.

[John C. Dvorak]

And sometimes Adam created by Danny Bernetti.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

There you go, everybody. I am off to the races. After this production ends. We're on our way to Austin, then on our way to Nashville. Look out Nashville, we're coming your way. And even though I'm out there having a good time at the festival, I will be ripping myself away from my wife and friends to do this podcast for you on Sunday. And I look forward to it because I love doing this show. Do you love doing the show, John?

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And that's why, according to Elon Musk, the show so good.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Elon Musk said that he got it.

[Adam Curry]

I should. I'll clip it. He's going on about how some of his cars are good because they're made with love and love comes across to the. To the eventual customer and they think it's great because of that. If you hate doing the show, it would come across as hate.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Oh no. Well, it comes. It's all about the love, baby.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

There you go.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Up next on the no Agenda stream and in your model modern podcast app, the Millennial Media Offensive, this will be episode 219 and end of show mixes. We got a few for you. Danny Luce, just Baker, mvp and Nico sign back and doing his best until Sunday. Remember us atnoensafe donations.com in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And from Refinery Row, I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Until then, adiosmo folks. So hooey, hooey and such.

[John C. Dvorak]

Virus is fast as lightning.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

In fact, it wasn't really that frightening.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it spread with expert timing. There were tiny little mice on a funky cruising boat. They were stirring it up, they were spreading it around. It's viral little threat. So everybody do your best. Don't eat the droppings off the floor and spread it a little more. Everybody was hunt to fight it. Virus is fast as lightning.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

In fact, it wasn't really that frightening.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it spread with extra for timing. Adam's got the theory and it's a doozy, folks. Trump's in the big chair pulling every

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

stranger to mega heavyweights Marco and young JD

[John C. Dvorak]

he's running the reality show no votes, no mercy.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

This Rubio versus.

[John C. Dvorak]

How you going to deal with Locke? Those boys

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

scams in oil and diplomats,

[John C. Dvorak]

who handles it best?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Trump's watching from the couch deciding who's next?

[John C. Dvorak]

Nigeria. Nigeria. Who's the big man?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

One gets the endorsement, the other gets the band. Rubio's diplomatic smooth as Florida sand dances from the hills with that hillbilly fighting brand. Ship em both to Abuja Let the cameras roll.

[John C. Dvorak]

Trump tweets the results.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

You're hired or you're fired, troll. No more debates, no rallies, just a foreign policy test. Adam says it's happening better than the rest.

[John C. Dvorak]

Next GOP candidate handpicked by the Don Based on who can tame that Nigerian con, It's Rubio.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

How you gonna deal with Lagos boys? Bring the pain Scams and oil and diplomats who handles it best? Trump's watching from the couch deciding who's next?

[John C. Dvorak]

Nigeria, Nigeria who's the big man?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

One guy gets the 9428 the others got no plan.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the end of the show but the game rolls on.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

Adam's pretty sure it's something to the dawn. Trump TV 2028 stay tuned for this

[John C. Dvorak]

election I TM everybody connection is protection

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

There's a woody mystery waking us up A sudden sensation we can't really stop

[Adam Curry]

it bypasses logic, it bypasses brain A

[John C. Dvorak]

wild momentum that's hard to explain the

[Adam Curry]

world tries to hide it but nature

[John C. Dvorak]

prevails in locker room stories and locker room tales Caught in a sudden romance we know that it's physically magic Someday we'll find it the erection connection, the horny, the hopeful and me it starts with a fondle, A spark in the dark A biological walk in the park from morning till evening the energy grows and where it will lead us everybody knows an unstoppable force that is ready to climb it happens to everyone time after time A sudden romance we know that it's physically magic Someday we'll find it the erection connection the horny, the

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

hopeful and me Take some no agenda wisdom, dear.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have to learn to laugh at fear

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

and then it will all become clear.

[Adam Curry]

There was never anything to even be afraid of.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

All that stuff, they just made it up. Stop corrupting your mind, stop wasting your time and listen to no agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't want more than a podcast.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

It's a philosophy and it's just like it ought to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

How many shots until you see how many mascots will it take to wake you up to see that being woke

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

is a practical joke A back room bank, a cigar smoking, cane tapping blokes and you're the punchline Value for value. See Works itself out naturally as far as who should and who should not

[John C. Dvorak]

be listening the those who should do and they give time and treasure to come to conclude that given to like minded people feels good too. That's true. The best podcast in the universe mofo

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Joe Rogan or a similar commentator)]

dvorak.org na is there a better podcast than this?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think not.