1873 - "Supercycle"

Summary

No Agenda Show – Episode 1873 "Supercycle"

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Date: May 31, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Adam and John dive into their signature deconstruction of the week’s media stories, focusing on fraud narratives, manufactured media outrage, the chaos around the America 250/Freedom 250 celebrations, and the current state of American politics and technology. They also offer a reality check on AI's practical effectiveness, dissect the latest Blue Origin rocket explosion, and touch on lighter topics such as sumo wrestling, spelling bees, and the continued fight for community truth in a polarized landscape.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Television & Media Hype

• The hosts discuss the generational gap in TV tastes, referencing Gen Z content like "Euphoria."
  • Quote: "Why would you keep up with what's going on with Gen Z?" – John C. Dvorak [00:41]
• Fragmentation of the TV landscape ("Not like it used to be—not like the good old days").
• Social media’s role in amplifying unrest in Paris after a soccer win, analyzed as more narrative than fact.
  • "The way that plays out on X is immigrants torching businesses, looting stores." – Adam [03:33]

2. Congress Pay Raise & Media Distortion

• Viral outrage over Speaker Mike Johnson purportedly seeking a Congressional pay raise; actual issue was stock trading rules.
  • Quote: "If you listen to the clip...he is for a ban on insider trading." – Adam [06:27]
  • Discussion about how partisans clip interviews to create false outrage.

3. Autism Services Fraud

• Nationwide Medicaid audits show a suspicious explosion in autism billing—with some states showing tens of thousands percent increases in five years.
  • Adam and John propose the "autism epidemic" itself may have been scam-adjacent, serving as a pretext for defrauding government aid.
  • "Perhaps the actual study of autism...was the scam to begin with..." – Adam [09:11]

4. Freedom 250/America 250: National Celebrations in Chaos

• Trump-backed "Freedom250" faces music act withdrawals amid partisan bickering.
  • Discussion of divergent "America 250" projects (Obama/Bush vs. Trump), confusion among organizers, lack of top country acts.
  • "This entire Freedom250 thing is a fiasco." – John [18:32]
  • Observations about political infighting, branding confusion, and opportunistic donors.

5. SSRIs, Joe Rogan, and the ‘Chemical Imbalance’ Myth

• Coverage of Joe Rogan’s public conversation (and apology) on SSRIs, catalyzed by Theo Vaughn’s mental health struggles.
  • "Here’s the thing about that chemical imbalance thing: That’s not real...They don’t exactly know what they do..." – Adam (paraphrasing Joe Rogan) [25:47]
• Commentary on audience backlash and the dangers of overprescribed antidepressants.

6. Blue Origin Rocket Explosion (Three by Three Media Review)

• All three major networks cover the failed launch, each giving a slightly different spin:
  • ABC: Emphasizes the financial setback and space race angle.
  • CBS: Highlights “haywire” mishap; historical context of rocket failures.
  • NBC: Mentions sabotage conspiracies and direct impact on NASA’s Artemis lunar projects.
  • "Did we have a lot of mishaps back in the day?" – Adam [33:03]

7. AI ‘Supercycle’ & Real-World Use

• Discussion with Dan Armada (Reagan National Economic Forum) on the next wave of AI: shift from training to inference at the "edge".
• Adam details his frustrating experience using Claude AI for No Agenda credit management—repeated inconsistent errors, lack of “intelligence”.
  • "There’s no consistency, you can’t iterate. Use the same prompt twice...it’ll bring back two different results every time." – Adam [53:07]
• Conclusion: "Ergo, this crap is way overvalued and I think it’s unusable for business..." [53:46]

8. Trades & Jobs Advice

• A listener tip: Elevator mechanics out-earn all other trades, best job security, but tough to enter due to union control.
  • “If we were doing the Graduate 2026 version, instead of plastic: Son, elevators." – Adam [56:41]

9. Conspiracy & Fringe Discourse

• Satirical attention to viral podcasts discussing celebrity clones, plastic surgery as cover for clones, and ‘adrenochrome’—poking fun at the willingness of podcast hosts to buy into wild theories.
  • "My favorite part is that she says andrenochrome, where the term is adrenochrome." – Adam [60:06]

10. Is the ‘Middle’ Dead in Political Discourse?

• No Agenda’s dedication to holding the “middle ground” is praised by listeners, contrasted with online accusations of bias.
  • “You’ve built the most important component of any civilization: Community.” – Listener [138:23]

11. Obesity Drugs & Emerging Side Effects

• New “triple-action” Eli Lilly drug delivers dramatic weight loss but, as Adam notes, dampens all pleasure ('takes away your joy') and may serve as a pipeline to SSRIs due to resulting depression.
  • “So it takes away your joy from eating, drinking, sex… in that regard, it’s a gateway drug to SSRIs.” – Adam [97:19]

12. Political Manipulation & Demographic Panic

• Focus on Paxton’s anti-Sharia rhetoric; Adam clarifies difference between Muslims and Islamists, and the strategic use of such fear in politics.
  • "Let’s just be careful when we just say Muslims..." – Adam [75:03]

13. Humanitarian & Public Health Issues

• Updates on Ebola in Brazil (potential first case outside Africa in current outbreak) and in the DRC; cynicism on institutional responses.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Media Manipulation:
  "The first clue is this is posted by the House Democrats account...let me go find the full clip." – Adam [06:11]

• AI Reality Check:
  "It’s on par with having an intern...But for $200 a month of anthropic token credits, I could probably hire an intern who would do a better job." – Adam [57:30]

• Conspiracies as Entertainment:
  "Maybe Thursday we just do a show like that… less prep, a lot easier." – Adam (on AI/dumb online conspiracy podcasts) [63:16]

• Community Value:
  "The no Agenda show might be the only thing left that can save the Republic." – Listener [139:39]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• TV, Gen Z & Paris Hysteria: 00:32 – 03:54
• Congress Pay Narratives & Stock Trading: 04:48 – 06:45
• Autism Services Fraud: 07:48 – 09:52
• America 250 / Freedom 250 Debacle: 10:22 – 20:03
• SSRIs Debate/Joe Rogan Segment: 24:02 – 29:46
• Blue Origin Explosion (Three by Three): 30:44 – 39:44
• AI Supercycle & Practical Fails: 43:04 – 53:46
• Trade Job Advice (Elevator Mechanic): 56:06 – 57:30
• Celebrity Cloning Satire: 57:36 – 63:06
• Political Center & Value for Value: 138:23 – 139:39
• Obesity Drug Side Effects: 95:07 – 97:38
• Paxton, Islam, and Demographic Politics: 66:44 – 75:03
• Ebola in Brazil & DRC: 75:50 – 80:45
• No Agenda Value for Value & Housekeeping: 130:19 – End

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Notable Moments

• General Besant’s $250 Bill: Discussion of proposed legislation for a Trump $250 note, the concept of “seigniorage,” and its unlikely prospects [91:14].
• Joe Biden’s Debate Performance: Jill Biden's new book and a viral CBS interview reignite Democratic infighting and “gaslighting” accusations among party insiders [83:01].
• Listener Boots on the Ground: Detailed look at independent gas stations’ costs, how gas pricing works, and election-year pressures [103:48].
• Meetup Culture and Community: Emphasis on the real-life value of No Agenda meetups and mutual aid [151:33, 153:03].
• End-of-show Encouragement: The unfiltered segment about the community, credits, and keeping the show running amid audience swings.

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Language & Tone

Adam and John maintain their signature sarcastic, humorous, and contrarian tone throughout. They blend sharp media criticism with inside baseball on politics and technology, intermixing playful banter and self-referential humor about their own biases, audience, and production struggles.

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Summary

Episode 1873 "Supercycle" embodies No Agenda’s deep-dive, skeptical approach to both media narratives and technology hype. The hosts take listeners through current events, manufactured crises, and attempts to “manufacture consent” in both politics and tech. Their trademark “value for value” philosophy serves as a counterpoint to a world they see as awash in fraud, confusion, and spin, all delivered with sharp wit and community focus.

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Transcript

[A]

Fraud ever. Fraud. Everest fraud is everywhere. Adam Curry, John c. Dvorak. Sunday, May 31, 2026. This is your award winning Gitmonation Media assassination episode 1873. This is no agenda breaking. Nobody knows anything. And we are broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[B]

I'm Adam Curry and from Refinery row where we're wondering what's the fuss about the TV show Euphoria? I'm John C. Dvor.

[A]

It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning. Okay, I'll bite. The TV show Euphoria. I don't think I've even heard of this.

[B]

Of course not. Why would you keep up with what's going on with Gen Z?

[A]

What is the show? I may have heard about it, but what is the show about?

[B]

About Gen Z. I don't know what it's about. I haven't never seen it. Okay, so it's supposed to be a big deal. In fact, here's this BBC headline.

[A]

Headline Breaking point.

[B]

Almost rage bait. Has euphoria gone from def Gen Z to dividing them with a picture of Sydney Sweeney as. As the teaser?

[A]

I don't know, man. We just started watching Dutton Ranch, so that's what we're watching.

[B]

I don't even. Okay.

[A]

Oh, that's another. That's another Taylor Sheridan. That's the guy Taylor Sheridan does. You know, Landman, Yellowstone, all these cowboy shows and it's pretty good. Dutton Ranch is good. It's not. Hey, you know what?

[B]

Just stick to one of them.

[A]

Well, no, we finished all of the other ones we talking about.

[B]

Is Landman done?

[A]

The. The most recent season is done. Yeah.

[B]

Why isn't he working on another season?

[A]

Well, I'm sure he is.

[B]

How can he. How many shows can this guy do it once and be good at it?

[A]

You know, this is what showrunners do when it's. When. When you're hot, you got to do it. You got to just keep pumping them out, man. Pumping them out. And then there was Madison. Was it Madison? Count Madison, I think with Kurt Russell

[B]

and

[A]

forget her name. Blondie.

[B]

Blondie.

[A]

Yeah, another good show. There's lots of good shows by Taylor Sheridan. Yeah, it's like. It's like the guy, Darren. What is his name? That. Who did The Beverly Hills 90210?

[B]

Darren O'. Neill.

[A]

Darren O'. Neill. That's right. Famous from Beverly Hills 90210. And for a while he was doing all the shows. Shows. And then he. Then he did the the new. Was it the new series of Sex and the City? And it was horrible. You know, he tried to rekindle that old spark that he had. I don't know. Hey, you know what? Nobody cares. I think literally nobody cares anymore about good TV shows we might watch and we might not. It's not like it used to be. Not like the good old days where you'd be like, hey, did you see Friends last night? It was awesome.

[B]

Yes, because there were only three channels.

[A]

Pretty much. So I'm looking at X this morning and you think that Paris is burning down

[B]

because they won a soccer match.

[A]

Oh, is that what it is?

[B]

Yeah. The St. Germain team won the big cup, the club cup. And there's the first time that any team except Real Madrid. Madrid has ever won it two years in a row. And the French have gone nuts.

[A]

So the way that plays out on X is immigrants torching businesses, looting stores,

[B]

which is a celebration of the soccer

[A]

game, which may also be true.

[B]

Yeah, well, yes, but that could also be a celebration of the soccer team.

[A]

That's hilarious. Because that. You don't hear anything about the football match. You only hear.

[B]

Well, you do if you listen to the BBC or the. Any of the.

[A]

No, that's my point, though. People are, you know, you look at X, go like, oh, the Muslims, the desk, burning it up.

[B]

I will say, pretty bad.

[A]

I will say we watched the last season, last episode of Hacks. I don't think you like it with Gene Smart, where she's a comedian. I. I told you to watch it. And you probably hate it.

[B]

I watched the beginning, the first season I watched. I thought it had some elements that were good, but it was unrealistic.

[A]

Well, hello. And so the very last one, the very last, like the series Closer.

[B]

Let me guess, she gets shot. Oh, no, not by an immigrant.

[A]

No, but they go to Paris and Tina and I go like, this is unrealistic. Where are the Muslims? That's like, whenever you see a, you know, show on this London, like, nah, nah, I'm not seeing it. I'm not seeing it.

[B]

London's loaded.

[A]

So. So this thing was trending on X and it was one of those clips where I'm like, I gotta go find the longer version of this. So the way this was played is Mike Johnson, speaker of the House, wants more money for Congress. They want a pay raise, which was not even the issue at all. So that kind of, like, I hadn't heard about that.

[B]

Yeah, well, I saw that it wasn't actually what he was pushing for, but okay.

[A]

No, and so what it was, what

[B]

he was pushing for is more stock trading.

[A]

That's exactly the way you take it. If you listen to the clip, here it is. Well, look, you know, the salary of Congress has been frozen since 2009. You know, when you adjust for inflation, a member of Congress today is making 31% less than they made in that year. It goes down every year. And over time, if you stay on this trajectory, you're going to have less qualified people who are willing to make the extreme sacrifice to run for Congress. I mean, it's just people just make a reasonable decision as a family on whether or not they can come and move to Washington, have a residence here, residence at home, and do all the things that are required. So, so the counterargument is, and I have some sympathy, look, at least let them engage in some stock trading so that they can continue to take care of their family. So I had the same response.

[B]

You just like, yeah, that's the first thing you'd think.

[A]

Yeah. And of course, the first clue is this is posted by the House Democrats account. So I'm like, oh, okay, let me go find the full clip. Let me see what he actually said. In fact, he is for a ban on insider trading.

[B]

Oh, that's cool.

[A]

Here it is, my honest opinion on it. I mean, I'm in favor of that because I don't think we should have any appearance of impropriety here. Okay. But the other side of it, some people say, well, look, you know, the, you see how that, how they cut that bit off at the beginning was he, I'm in favor of the ban on stock trading and they cut that off and then it turns into, oh,

[B]

gee, that's a shocker to me. Yeah, I'm glad you uncovered this, this, this scandal.

[A]

Well, so here's another one. And this has been running for like a week and a half. And I want to ask you a question after we listen this. So you know, there's all kinds of fraud being fraud ever fraud. Everest fraud is everywhere, especially the Somalians and the Muslims. And so there's an audit across 50 states. Now I'm going to see. Let's see if you pick up on the same thing that I did when you hear this clip. Now we'll audit all 50American states looking for potentially massive fraud in the billing of autism treatment. This is happening now amid a recent explosion in spending on autism services. North Carolina alone apparently saw an 11,000% increase in the last four years. Why was that? Good question for Alexandria hoff live in D.C. alex, hello. Good morning.

[C]

Hey, Bill. Yeah, it is a good question because according to that data coming out of North Carolina, the use of taxpayer funded autism services is significantly outpacing the number of children being diagnosed. So something's not right there. And it's not just in the Tar Heel State. A recent analysis by the Cato Institute found that in five years, Medicaid billing has surged in every other state that makes their data public for money spent on ABA therapy. It's applied behavior analysis. That's what it's called. For reference, Minnesota's ABA spending increased by about 51,000% since 2018. We all know what happened there. President Trump spoke on that yesterday.

[B]

You saw that. With millions of dollars just being stolen.

[A]

Everybody had autism.

[B]

Everybody had autism. They said

[A]

it was incredible, actually.

[B]

And I really, I mean, I've just seen some.

[A]

I see what they're doing. You haven't seen anything yet. So I listened to this and I'm thinking, well, hold On a minute, RFK Jr, the President, myself, everybody has been saying the studies show that everybody has autism. One out of three boys. I'm thinking this scam is much bigger than they're talking about here. Perhaps the actual study of autism of how many people have autism was the scam to begin with an inside job before it even got to the Medicare. And all of this money that was going to autism treatment. How we've only heard. Well, there was nobody with autism when I was a kid. Now everybody has autism. Is this much bigger. I mean, doesn't anyone see the connection there between this thing that we've been told for the past five years over and over and over again that every single kid has autism. It's all because of the vaccines. Maybe some of that is overblown for

[B]

the purposes of scamming the public out of their tax dollars.

[A]

Precisely.

[B]

I like the thesis.

[A]

I mean, what I'm missing is anyone else discussing the thesis. It seems like a no brainer, like, yeah, remember, everybody had autism. The President just said it. Everybody's got autism. That's what he said a year ago. Everyone's got autism. We got to stop this. But now there's too much autism treatment. Something does not compute here. Something.

[B]

There's a lot. So I have a couple of things I wanted to talk about today too, which is along these same lines.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Things don't make sense. And the one that's gotten into me and I started looking into it is the Freedom250.

[A]

Oh, this is great.

[B]

So here, play this, play this. This is the be Trump 250 concerts

[A]

Donald Trump has announced he's considering canceling a series of concerts celebrating the 250th anniversary of the United States and replacing them with a single act himself. From Washington, here's Tom Simons. In his post, Donald Trump described himself as the greatest president in history, the Goat, and said he was capable of getting bigger audiences than Elvis in his prime. It was a riposte to a series of music acts who've said they won't take part in the Freedom 250 celebrations, including the funk and soul band the Commodores and the country singer Martina McBride. Donald Trump said he was now looking at the feasibility of putting himself on stage in an America is Back rally in just four days time on Wednesday in Washington, D.C. now before you comment, I have the NBC version of this, which mentions a few more artists tonight.

[C]

With preps already underway for an event celebrating America's 250th birthday on the National Mall, a new snag.

[B]

This will be a time like you've

[A]

never had in your lives.

[C]

America256 musical artists originally announced as performers now dropping out, many citing political concerns. Country singer Martina McBride writing, I was presented with an opportunity to perform at a nonpartisan event, but that turned out to be misleading. Rapper Young MC saying artists were never told about any political involvement. And Poison frontman Bret Michaels writing, it's evolved into something much more divisive than I agreed to be part of. The event is organized by Freedom250, a public private partnership launched by President Trump. We have a president that wants to celebrate 250 years of America, and that's exactly what we're doing. And that's how it was sold to performers. And not everyone is backing out. A representative for Vanilla Ice telling NBC News he is proud to help celebrate America's 250th anniversary. Others still slated to perform include Flo Rida, CNC Music Factory and Fab Morvan of Milli Vanilli.

[A]

Okay, okay. So I hear all these names. You know, back in the 90s I was had a top 30 hit list syndicated radio show. And the way you got it on, the way it works is you give them the show for free. They run it Sunday morning and they get to sell three minutes of airtime and I got this local air time and then I would sell, you know, six minutes of the rest of each hour on a national basis. It was actually very lucrative. But the only way you could get the stations to take it was if

[B]

I Byron Allen kind of Deal completely.

[A]

It was lucrative, man. It was good. But then. And, yeah, I sold it to Reebok and to Pepsi. In fact, I think it was the Pepsi's. Adam Curry's Pepsi top 30 hit, I can't remember. But the way to clear it is I'd have to go to all these different bad top 40 radio stations. I've been to every single one of the 50 states, and you've got to do their B91 Summer Jam. And it was always. It was Milli Vanilli, it was Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch. It was all these Vanilla Ice, it was all these track acts. This is a track act concert. Who cares? I mean, what, the Commodores? It's not like Lionel Richie showing up with the Commodores anymore. And then it's happening in four days from now.

[B]

No, it's not. I got the schedule here.

[A]

I don't understand.

[B]

Martina McBride was scheduled for June 25th. That's not four days from now.

[A]

No, it's not.

[B]

These reports are all bullcrap. In fact, Trump goes on, he talks about America250. That's different than Freedom250. Yeah, Freedom250 is a disaster waiting to happen. It's idiotic.

[A]

What is it? What is it?

[B]

Okay, well, here's the problem. Just as a little background. America 250 was put together by Obama and it's still in play. The honorary chairman is Obama and George Bush.

[A]

We've got competing 250s.

[B]

And so Trump in January came up with this Freedom250 thing and put this bonehead Silicon Valley guy, and I want to hear, I'm just giving you indication of what a megalomaniac this guy is.

[A]

Who?

[B]

Keith Kratch. So you have to go to keithcratch.com.

[A]

oh, man.

[B]

Now, this guy ran Ariba Docusign, Angie's List. He's a Silicon Valley hack and he's rich. He's loaded. I think he's a big donor. But if you go to keithkrach.com.

[A]

is it Keith

[B]

K-E I T H. Yeah.

[A]

K O K R A T c dash H dot com.

[B]

No, I think it's C R A K R. Here, let me get it.

[A]

Yeah, please.

[B]

Keith, K R A C H. Oh,

[A]

K R a C H. Keith Cratch. Okay, who is this dude? Oh. Founder and co founder and chairman of the Krach Institute for Tech Diplomacy.

[B]

Okay, so if you look at this guy's megalomaniac website, nobody in their right mind puts its personal site together that looks like this.

[A]

This Is great.

[B]

This is everywhere.

[A]

I'm leadership.

[B]

You think he was from Bombay? This is what Indian guys do. Oh, no, I'm very important. So they do it for their moms mostly, I'm told.

[A]

And mommy, come over from Bombay. I'll show you how. President Trump. Sorry for being racist, everybody, but I.

[B]

So this guy. Yeah, it's not racist. So they're Caucasians. How can he be racist? Caucasians with melanin. So, so, so let's look at this act. Now, the first thing, when I think of putting together an America 250 thing, what do I think? What comes to mind?

[A]

Country.

[B]

When it comes to like, what kind of acts represent the country? Milli Vanilli.

[A]

No, of course not. No.

[B]

So here's again, he's got this Setup is Martina McBride whoever, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

C and W. So okay, she's somebody, but she doesn't want to do it.

[A]

No.

[B]

By the way, none of these people seem to have been contacted except for Bret Michaels. They just put their name on the

[A]

CNC Music Factory guy, who I think now says he's not, by the way, CNC Music Factory. I don't think the guy even sang on the record. It's just a guy who dances just like Martini McBride.

[B]

I'm gonna give you the list. Martina McBride. CNC Music Factory, Vanilla Ice. These are All America 250. Where is Lee Greenwood? Where is Kid Rock? The kind of people that drop like they're not on this list. That's what gave me the signal that this is bull crap.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's this guy, this Keith Kratch guy running. He was given the job. This is a classic example of Trump picking the wrong guy. Yeah. He's running this, this Freedom 250 thing into the ground. It's an embarrassment for the president who's got to back the guy up. He's not going to get rid of him because he's a big donor.

[A]

Oh, wait a minute. Oh, hold on a second. This concert. So called concert we're talking about is part of the Great American State Fair, which will be on the National Mall. Yes. That's exactly the kind of acts who, who, who are on the, on the fair circuit. The west breed.

[B]

Yeah. Second rate losers with. Yeah. With not an original. No original band.

[A]

Well, Vanilla Ice is very patriotic though I'll have to say that he's always.

[B]

Yeah, well, he wants to do it, but you know, but so, but where are the, you know, the real, the real people that Trump would pick? This is bull crap. This entire Freedom250 thing is a fiasco. And yeah, they maybe have a fireworks display, but it's in competition with the other thing. And it's like. Seems to me to be just a poorly executed. And this guy, this Cratch character who is not. Doesn't seem likable and he seems like a egomaniac. He's spread too thin. If you look at his website, he's doing everything. He's a professor, he's a CEO, he's this, he's that.

[A]

The thing that was the rededicate 250, that was actually quite good. I watched a lot of that. That was on May 17th and that was a pretty good show. And they had every, you know, of course it's a, you know, a Christian Bible thumping thing, which is why I watched it.

[B]

Well, that's why you would like it.

[A]

Yeah, but it was also, the show was put together very well.

[B]

It was topic, but it was a bunch of Christian bands. It wasn't Lee Greenwood.

[A]

I think he might have been there actually. Well, here's what's interesting. So now I have an ABC report. And this talks about America 250th crosshairs. So there's already this confusion between Freedom 250, America 250 and then America 250th. There's a branding problem here. And this is.

[B]

Oh, it's definitely.

[A]

This is where Cory Booker goes off and on this issue of the 250th anniversary of America, you know, you had these performers that have canceled.

[B]

They didn't want to.

[A]

They perform at the celebration on the mall.

[C]

And now Trump is saying he's gonna

[A]

turn it into celebration at the mall. No, it's a fair. It's a fair ground. A Make America Great Again rally where the entertainment's gonna be Donald Trump. What are you telling people? What is great? How should this anniversary. It's a huge moment in the country's history. How should this be celebrated? How do you prevent this from turning into simply a partisan affair? Yeah, I mean, this is the problem with Trump. He's a divider in chief. Get him off the stage is not his intention. But reminding us what American history has always been about. It's been about the power of the people being greater than the people in power. That we're not a nation of kings, princes or rulers, but of Americans who when they see power being used unjustly, whether it's the labor movement, the abolitionist movement, civil rights movement, the story of America is Americans standing up against authoritarian figures and making our democracy more Robust. This is one of those moments where we have a man that is unfortunately reminding us of the dangers of a democracy when you have an out of control president. And what the I think education moment is, is the only way he's ultimately going to be stopped is if more people stand up and speak up.

[B]

He's not answering the question.

[A]

That's how we've advanced through crises before, and that's what's now. Listen, I heard the CNC Music Factory guy, who I also did dates with. Everybody dance now. 100% lip sync. Good dancing. He has his little crew there. People are going around calling up these artists saying, you know, this is a Trump thing. This is not about America. It's a Trump thing. It's a Trump thing. And these artists are like, whoa, I don't want to lose, you know, I don't want to lose my track dates at the fair in the blue states. That's what's happening. It's a coordinated campaign to ruin the fair. The state fair at the mall. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Everything that Trump does, they, they find ways to submarine it, but they. And Trump doesn't help things by putting this. Some of these people in charge that are. Shouldn't be doing it.

[A]

Wait a minute.

[B]

I mean, if he gave, you know, if he'd given the. Just said, hey, Elon.

[A]

Yeah, Organize.

[B]

Can you use your skills to pick somebody to run this thing for me?

[A]

He could have asked us and we've done a better job.

[B]

I would think so. Yeah.

[A]

And we would have done an award show and everything, like the podcast Awards. We'd slip that in. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Are we criticizing the president? Because I don't think that's our brand anymore, John. We can't be criticizing.

[B]

Oh, no, we can't criticize the president. You have that note. You want to read it?

[A]

No, I'm not going to read it.

[B]

I would read that one note.

[A]

I didn't even read it.

[B]

We got a note from some disgruntled listener. You guys are just. But I looked him up. Yeah, he donated a couple years ago. We're not getting anyone donating during this. I'm blaming Trump for the low donations.

[A]

Yes, of course.

[B]

Mainly because until he gets his Iran. Iran's. Iran. Iran.

[A]

Iran. Yes. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not. No, we need a new president. We need a Democrat president. We're just like the oil guys. There's no difference between us and the oil bear. And you know something? I'm glad you find that humorous. Something happened on the Joe Rogan show, and I saw this a week or so ago, and I was like, yeah, right on. Now, Theo Vaughn, you know Theo Vaughn, right? You know who he is?

[B]

I know who he is. I don't watch his stuff.

[A]

No, no, but you know Theo. And so Theo was on Joe's show. I don't know.

[B]

And Joe was on Theo's show. And Theo was on. Yeah, okay.

[A]

No, Theo was on Joe's show. It must have been four or five weeks ago. And Theo Vaughn was out of his gourd. He was like, gore.

[B]

Wow. There's a phrase I haven't heard for. Oh, Let me think. 66.

[A]

It's the phrase that pays, baby. So he.

[B]

It's an old Jonathan Winter saying. That's how old it is.

[A]

Okay, well, the. The thousand year old man.

[B]

No, that's Carl Reiner.

[A]

I thought that was. Oh, okay. I thought he was with Jonathan. Let's not talk.

[B]

No, no, it's Carl Reiner. And Mel Brooks was a thousand year old man.

[A]

All right. Thank you. So he was nuts. He was spiraling. He was like, israel, you know, they're the terrorists. And Joe was sitting there like, dude, you should come and work out with us.

[B]

Come and hang.

[A]

Come and hang out with us. I mean, Theo Vaughn was really going nutty. And Theo has. Lovely guy. I'm sure he has all kinds of issues. Don't we all?

[B]

Like what?

[A]

He's had addiction issues. Right now he's been trying Jesus, which we're all praying for Theo in that regard. But there was something else, and it is SSRIs. And Theo is. I think he's even been vocal about it, that he takes whatever Lexapro, whatever it is, whatever the brand du jour is. It's all the same stuff. And so Joe's on his show talking about, talking to some other guest, and here's what he says. Yeah, Theo Vaughn's going through the exact same thing. And last time he was on the podcast, he was explaining it to me, and it freaks me out because I know Theo's had conversations before, like, even publicly. He had a Netflix taping, and it didn't go well. It was like they actually never. They shelved it. They never used it. You know, there was all these stories from people that were there saying he bombed. I think he just had a. Of a breakdown. And then he was talking to the crowd, and there's a video of it. We said the people were shaking. Hey, we still love you. Thank you. Look, I'm trying not to take My own life. That's what I'm trying to do right now. And you hear stuff like that, and you just go like, oh, Jesus Christ. I've known too many people that I didn't think were going to kill themselves and then did. And then he goes down these spirals where he starts talking about world events and freaking out. I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ. Like, I got to go help this dude. And so I send him things about people getting off of them. And apparently there's some doctors that specialize in getting people off of them. But here's the thing about that chemical imbalance thing. That's not real. They used to think that that was what these things do, that they treated a chemical imbalance. But then recently, studies have shown that that is not what they do. They don't exactly know what they do, and they kind of numb you in some sort of a way that helps some people. So I even texted Joe, like, thank you for saying that this chemical imbalance lie that they throw on everybody, which is total horse crap, say, way to go. Excellent job. This is a bad thing. People can't get off of them. Doctors are handing out, like, candy. And then Joe does something I don't think I've ever seen him do. He did an apology. But I don't think this was just an apology for Theo Vaughn. I think the pushback he got from his audience was so severe. And Joe is. Joe really doesn't like controversy about himself. No, he really doesn't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, he is always very cautious, and I know him this way. He doesn't really want anyone to be known.

[B]

A lot of people just don't.

[A]

Right? Just don't. Yeah. And if you listen carefully to this apology that. Now, he said this was an apology for Theo, but I kind of have the feeling was an apology for more than just theo, more for SSRIs and other things. I apologize to Theo. He knows I love him, and he said that, and we laughed and we joked around about it. And I apologize for the way I talked about this, but I felt like I need to explain to other people, too, to get just, like, what was going on in my mind out. And it certainly wasn't like covering for Israel, and it certainly wasn't like trying to paint him out like he's damaged or treat him like a child. I just want him to be okay. And when you're dealing with someone, when you have, like, had experience dealing with someone, that where it winds up going very badly, and then you're just left with this feeling like, what could I have done? You know, I didn't do a good job of it, you know, especially like the Marcus King thing. Like, that's terrible what I did. He goes on and on about this. I think the audience freaked out on him. I think, you know, our audience, our producers go, yeah, but here's what I did to get off of him.

[B]

Yeah, they do.

[A]

They did. You know, and like my, like, you

[B]

know, we really had anybody pushing back on us.

[A]

No, no, but I think. And that must be the size of the audience too. I think a lot of people freaked out. It's a harsh reality when someone is telling you the truth. He told what I believe to be a medical fact. They don't know how it works.

[B]

They don't.

[A]

And this chemical imbalance thing is a lie. It's a sales pitch.

[B]

It's a rationale.

[A]

And I think also some of the Israel people got mad at like, well, you're covering for Israel by saying Theo's just nuts on drugs. Whatever.

[B]

There's an element of that that we do get.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. All the time. But it was just surprising. I'm like, wow, you know, the pressure must be really big. We don't, we don't. First of all, we don't really. We never really got any pushback on that. Only people who agree. It's a small group.

[B]

Yeah. We have this tenth his audience.

[A]

Well, if that. It's a small group, I think. I don't know. I really don't know. I don't think anybody knows exactly how big the audience. Some say 10, 11, 12, 20 million, 100 million. You got 500 million, whatever.

[B]

It's all, I think 10 sounds about right? So talking about disasters, and to back up my prediction from last show, the show before, I don't remember.

[A]

Okay, here we go.

[B]

This brings us to a three by three.

[A]

Oh, hold on one second. Now it's time for three by three. Yeah, baby. Experiment by jcd Comparing stories from abc, CBS and NBC. That's rhyming. We got three stories. The big headlines from the big three news organizations. And will they say the same? Will one be different? What will the CIA broadcasting systems bring us? John has all three.

[B]

In fact, in this case, they're all pretty different, but they're about the same thing. Let's start with abc.

[A]

Tonight, Jeff Bezos. Commercial space company Blue Origin is warning Florida residents not to touch any debris from this catastrophic explosion that incinerated one of the its largest rockets during an unmanned engine test Thursday night. The enormous fireball lighting up The Cape Canaveral sky producing a mushroom cloud visible for dozens of miles. Incredibly, no injuries were reported. Frantic witnesses inundating first responders with 911 calls.

[B]

There was a massive explosion of Blue Origin. A big mushroom cloud just went into

[A]

the sky like an atomic bomb. There was a huge fireball in the sky. There's still a raging fire going daylight, revealing much of the launch pad reduced to charred rubble. Blue Origin saying an anomaly took place during a static fire test of its 320 foot tall new Glenn rocket when the rocket's engines are fired while the craft remains attached to the launch site. The explosion a significant setback for Blue Origin and NASA, which is depending on reusable rockets from Blue Origin to send landers to the moon. Blue Origin had emerged as really a key player in NASA's efforts to return to the moon.

[B]

And so this is pretty devastating to that effect.

[A]

Blue Origin says it invested more than a billion dollars into that launch site. In a statement, Jeff Bezos calling it

[B]

a very rough day but vowing to rebuild.

[A]

Yes, this was your prediction from the last show. In fact, when we played the jacked up NASA guy saying, yeah, we're going to have doom buggies and all kinds of stuff that we had before again on the. It's going to be great. And we have the lunar economy which apparently can't get off the launch pad.

[B]

Not only that, but it took the launch pad with it.

[A]

You know, I was thinking about this. Of all the, the. If you look at historical footage, when they do a compilation of, of space travel before this new space travel race, there were maybe, of course the Challenger was the big one, but maybe there were three or four explosions that it's always like, ba ba da ba. It's all great. Everything's lifting off, everything's going. Did we have a lot of mishaps back in the day?

[B]

Well, in the early days, it was laughable. That's all there was. I mean, there used to be a program. We're talking about the 50s.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So in 1950, here's the history for you kids out there who haven't been around long enough.

[A]

That's right. This is exclusive to your no Agenda podcast. We got a paw Paw Dvorak going to tell you about what happened back in the day.

[B]

57, the Russians put a satellite into space and it was beeping away, floating around.

[A]

Sputnik, also known as Sputnik. Yes.

[B]

And so Sputnik's going around.

[A]

Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, Beep.

[B]

Just. Just annoying the hell out of the United States because they're. The Russians apparently have, you know, are doing space shit. And they sent a dog in space,

[A]

Latke, and they killed that dog. That dog died, man.

[B]

The dog died in space. And you can still buy watches, I think, in Russia that have Latke on the dog, on the face of the watch.

[A]

I think Sir Gene has a couple of them.

[B]

I have one.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

You know, bought it during the Soviet era, and it was. And somebody said, when you. When you. When you buy stuff on the street, which is illegal, be careful, you know. So this guy sneaks up to me. He says, you want a watch? And he shows it to you. He looks left, looks right. He opens the case, and it's one of these Latke watches. I say, hell, yeah. It's like 10 bucks or something. And so I give him the 10 bucks. He hands me the watch, and I look up to thank him.

[A]

He's gone. He's gone. Yeah. You think that's cool, Glenn Beck? I think there was two or three Sputniks they had. It wasn't just one they had. At least that's the story Glenn Beck

[B]

told me, because I. I only remember the one.

[A]

But he has one. If he has one in his museum, I saw it. He has a Sputnik. Sputnik, yeah. That guy's got way too much cash.

[B]

I don't know how he got that. Okay, well, anyway, back to the story. So in 57, they sent this Sputnik. And so they told everybody, all the kids, okay, everybody's got to get into science. That's when science fair started.

[A]

And everybody's.

[B]

So everyone had to get into science. And so they started launching rockets, trying to get one that would not blow up. And my favorite one was the. And it was the Navy versus the Army. And the army had these old V2s from Germany, and the Navy had these rockets called the Vanguard.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And they kept trying to launch a satellite off of ships, and they would blow up every single time. And it would be nightly news. Another Vanguard blows up. And so we got to see one rocket after another exploding because they couldn't get anything off the ground. It was embarrassing. And then somehow, by 1969, they had a man on the moon.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Unbelievable.

[A]

And now 2026, we can't get off the launcher. But it's always seen as. This is actually great. Congratulations, Blue Origin, because we've learned a lot. This is what Elon always said. No, it was meant to deteriorate rapidly because now we know what we shouldn't.

[B]

Yeah, but Elon's smart enough to have them do it up in the sky and not wreck the whole launch pad.

[A]

No, I think. I think they had a launch pad blowout too.

[B]

That one. That was some years ago.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, let's go to. Let's go to CBS's version of the story.

[A]

Yes, Here we go. If any rocket launch is a controlled

[B]

explosion, this moment was neither.

[A]

Blue Origin's new Glenn rocket, parked on its launch pad, suddenly erupted into a

[B]

mammoth fireball seen up and down Florida Space Coast.

[A]

That is crazy. Haywire. During a test firing of its engines. A significant setback for more than the space company. This is a very critical problem for NASA to deal with. We simply don't know the extent of the damage to the launch padding or what it might take to fix the rocket and get it flying again. Daylight show the heavily damaged launch pad. New Glenn's only launch pad, including twisted metal and a collapsed lightning tower. Repairs could take months. What's unclear the setback's impact on NASA's Artemis program to return to the moon ahead of the Chinese blue origins. Developing lunar landers for NASA to deliver astronauts and cargo to a planned moon base near the lunar south pole. Next year's Artemis III mission aims to practice docking the Orion capsule with a Blue Origin lander. And all the landers need the new Glenn rocket to get to space. A setback like this obviously is going to push those plans back a bit. Blue Origin founder Jeff Bezos posted about the explosion. It's too early to know the root cause. Very rough day. But we'll rebuild whatever needs rebuilding and get back to flying.

[B]

NASA administrator Jared Isaacman said the agency will assess near term mission impact. Tony.

[A]

NASA has also hired SpaceX to help get America back to the moon. But its lunar lander is behind schedule. And after the most recent flight of its starship rocket had problems. It's also grounded observations. We are missing the term glitch. I find that very annoying. Instead, we have brought back the term haywire.

[B]

Ooh, good catch.

[A]

What is the etymology of this term haywire?

[B]

Ask the robot.

[A]

Ah, Book of Knowledge. What is the etymology of the term haywire? Book of Knowledge is. Is on it. Let's find out where this comes from. It's got to be old. According to the Book of Knowledge, the term haywire originates from the baling wire used to bind hay bales in farming and logging operations. This cheap malleable wire was notorious for tangling easily and creating chaotic messes when handled carelessly, leading to the metaphorical meaning of something going awry or out of control by the early 20th century. Thus it has been written. So it's a hundred year old term haywire.

[B]

That makes sense actually when it explained by the robot glitch.

[A]

Glitch is the one you're supposed to be using. People, I don't understand why they don't use haywire.

[B]

They're sick of listening to you complain about it. Let's go to the last report, which is NBC.

[A]

The explosion was massive, filling the night sky with a brilliant orange. That's not good.

[B]

Captured on doorbell cameras and shaking homes.

[A]

Oh great. Great, Nat Pop. Oh, that's fantastic. That's not good. That's good. Massive, filling the night sky with a brilliant orange. That's not good.

[B]

Captured on doorbell cameras and shaking homes

[A]

and bars in nearby Cape Canaveral. It looks like there was an explosion. Blue Origin's new Glenn rocket went up in a ball of fire during a routine ground test. Fueled by and liquid oxygen, no injuries from the air. The company's only launch pad appears completely destroyed. Blue Origin owner Jeff Bezos posting Very rough day, but we will rebuild whatever needs rebuilding and get back to flying. The disaster comes just days after NASA award a Blue origin a nearly $200 million contract to launch components and perhaps eventually astronauts to a lunar base. The grand return is close at hand and we will not slow down. But now a potential delay to NASA's ambulance. Ambitious launch set to start this fall and next year with the Artemis 3 flight to test docking procedures in Earth orbit. Former NASA chief Charlie Bolden. Space flight is hard no matter who's doing it. We know how to do it. But nature and physics and a lot of other things have a say in all this radiation. It was just last month that another Blue Origin rocket failure left a satellite in a wrong orbit. And now a bigger failure as the company tries to compete with SpaceX and help send humans eventually onto the moon. Now, no one has mentioned the possibility of sabotage. There's a lot of money, a lot of contracts out there. Sabotage anyone?

[B]

Well, it's like that time that SpaceX rocket, you saw something headed toward it before it blew up on the launch pad a few years back. Yeah, seems suspicious.

[A]

Yeah, well, but the sabotage comes right at the same time that SpaceX is filing for their public offering. I'm just saying.

[B]

Now what? Yeah, but the problem is, does this make the public offering more or less attractive?

[A]

Well, in my mind it's all unattractive. I mean, where Is no.

[B]

Well, that's not the question. That's fine with you, but I'm just saying, does it to investors in general, would this explosion make the offering more or less attractive?

[A]

Well, I'm not allowed to have opinion, so my opinion doesn't matter.

[B]

No, you're. No, I, you don't. You can't say what, what you think. You have to tell me what I. You're not answering the question.

[A]

Okay. The answer to the question is much more attractive.

[B]

I say less.

[A]

And my question, my follow on question though, which is in your camp, how come AI hasn't figured out all of the problems? Shouldn't the wonderful artificial intelligence have all the answers and have calculated the perfect exact things that they need so that this could not happen? Isn't that. Bezos has AI, Elon has AI. I thought AI was smarter than anybody in the universe.

[B]

In fact, they both have AI up to wazoo.

[A]

Gavin, your take on the S1 and I think specifically Elon Web Services. I think what's important about Elon Web Services does make me laugh. But 15 billion, that means the AI business right there is going to quadruple. Quadruple already effectively quadruple. I think what's important about that is there's a stat in it that for. This is Gavin Baker. And if you ask me who that is, I don't have the answer offhand.

[B]

Okay, go.

[A]

Their first data center was 122 days. The second one it took them 91 days. The third one, this is from the all in podcast, so it's not going to be negative, was I think 66. They build data centers dramatically faster than anyone else at a lower cost.

[B]

And now that you have lower cost,

[A]

but lower cost, I'm going to dump out of that. I watched a lot of the Reagan National Economic Forum, which was about 10 hours. Did you see any of it?

[B]

I saw zero.

[A]

It was, there were a couple of interesting speakers. Some things were interesting that were said.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You know, it was, it was on, I think CNBC may have had some co sponsoring with us awesome CNBC hosts. But it, it was, it was very, very long and it was, it was a true Economic forum type thing. And I have two clips from it with Dan Armada. And this is about, this is exactly what I've been predicting where all these big data centers, all this important stuff from the training, the models and everything, it's all starting to fizzle out. Now. The new term is inference, or some say inference, but I'm pretty sure it's inference.

[B]

I think inference is the correct pronunciation.

[C]

There's a lot there I want to dig into. But first I want to get the private sector, the entrepreneurial piece of it, this into the conversation too. Dan, you have, you've co founded a startup, you're the CEO of a startup called Armada. And I guess before I get your reaction to what we've just heard so far on stage, just a little bit about Armada.

[A]

Yeah. So Armada is the hyperscaler for the edge. We're building modular.

[B]

Oh, the hyperscaler for the edge.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

We can draw analogies to the late 90s from what is happening here.

[B]

So now we've got the language or the bull crap?

[A]

Yes and yes. Yeah. So Armada is the hyperscaler for the edge. We're building modular AI data centers that can be deployed anywhere in the world, which is important. If you look at a map of the world, only about 30% of the world has these big hyperscale data centers. We're building for the 70% so that the US can win this AI race that we're in right now. So the edge, that's inference. The edge is, oh, I need to have this. This. Well, he actually explains it here. We're in the middle of this AI super cycle and what we're Super AI super cycle. We're in the middle of this super cycle. And what we're witnessing is that there's this shift that's going on. It used to just be all about training these really high powered, large language models. And that's still important. We still need to lead in that area. But what we're now seeing is a lot of people asking, well, how do I actually, actually deploy those in as many places as possible to boost productivity, to improve my operations, to improve decision making. And that is about taking those models that have been trained on those hyperscale data centers and then running them on something like our modular data centers at the for inference and fine tuning those models to proprietary, sensitive, oftentimes data sets for national security, for energy. And we, and we're seeing that play out globally where now people are like, okay, I've been playing with ChatGPT for a couple years on my phone. What can I actually do to improve my business or improve. This is the exact thought I had. I'm like, you know, I've been playing with this chat GPT on my phone. What can I do to have it improve my business, play out globally where now people are like, okay, I've been playing with chat GPT for a couple years on my phone. What can I actually do to improve my business or improve, you know, national security. And I think that's going to continue, which is one reason why in the market you're seeing it respond. One of the things that was very interesting over the last few weeks, you've seen the spot price for H1 hundreds and H2 hundreds, which are Nvidia's chips that are more optimized for inference versus training.

[C]

I love that there's a spot price for this.

[A]

It's actually starting to the spot price for the GV2 hundreds and the GB3 hundreds, which are like the ones for training. And I think that that's going to continue. I think another good example is you saw the. I guess what's the. What's the right word? Aqua Hire that Nvidia did of what Aqua. That's also because they saw this shift that's coming to inference and I think

[B]

you're going to Aqua Hire.

[A]

Oh, you know what an acqui hire is? An acqui hire is. That's what happened to drop IO back in the day. An Aqua Hire is where you want the people who built the product, but

[B]

you don't buy the product and you steal the people. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Now I have some experience with this inference.

[B]

Aqua Hire.

[A]

I wish someone would acqui hire this show.

[B]

Well, at least.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Well, yes, you. In fact, I think this is all leading into a couple of anecdotes, personal anecdotes that you have to offer.

[A]

Yes. About working with AI, Specifically Claude code.

[B]

Yeah. And it's first theory. And the thing is this is for the simplest of simple ideas that you've developed. Well, I had that. It should be seamless and effective.

[A]

Yeah, it should be. No. What is it?

[B]

Safe and effective.

[A]

So as I was playing around with the ChatGPT for years. No.

[B]

On your phone.

[A]

On my phone. I really wanted to see if this AI could help out with my production work. And. And I analyze myself. I went self. What do you spend the most time doing for the no Agenda show? But can you guess what it is?

[B]

Well, I know what it is. It's yakking.

[A]

Yeah. Copy paste. The amount of copy and pasting that I do for show notes and clip titles. And yeah, just. Oh, and. And I decided, okay, let me take the one that is the one that is the easiest to mess up as a human because it's at the end of the show, we're tired and we have to actually run through it together because I make mistakes. You make me make mistakes. It's the credits. Purely the credits. I'm like, here's a great test today should be easy. Yes, my robot is very happy. It might get it right. So I teach. Now when you teach the robot to do something. So Claude code is an agent, and Claude code by itself is an idiot. The reason why Claude or any, any of these models have problems with how many Rs in Strawberry is because they're just guessing. They. They have no intelligence, no knowledge. What they can do is build a Python script that then says, oh, the word Strawberry. Hold on. And then it will look at the word Strawberry, it'll programmatically see how many Rs, and then it'll come back with the right answer. But it has to build a script for it. It doesn't actually know it itself. This is the basis of how this stuff works. And what's nice about is you just tell it what you want it to do. So I said, robot, I want you to do the credits. Here's the spreadsheet that Jay sent me. It's an Excel file. Go in there, find out. Find everybody who has donated between $200 and $300. Put them into my. My. Into my Show Notes document under associate executive producers and $300 or above. Put that into the executive producers.

[B]

Oh, that's got to be the easiest thing in the world for it to do.

[A]

And I say, in addition, look at the notes. If there's a switcheroo, you have to change the name.

[B]

Oh, they're making it complicated. But that's. That shouldn't be. It should be effortless.

[A]

The switcheroo part never had a problem. Where do the names go every single time? It does it differently. So first it put, like, two people in execs, and then all the rest in associate execs. And then I go in, I say, no, you have a document, and it makes these little memory files. They're markdown files. You have a document. You've memorized this previously. Between 200 and 300. Is Associate Executive Producer. Oh, yeah, you're right. Okay, I'll fix it. It fixes it, and then it says, I'm going to make a note of this so I don't do that again. Next show. It does that, right? But then it puts in the amounts. It puts in the, The. The. The entire notes that I said. No, it's just the name. Ah, you're right. I'm gonna make a note of it. So then I like robots. You keep doing this wrong. How can we fix this? Okay, I have an idea. You just use the word credits, all uppercase and that will trigger my memory to go look at the memory docs. Well, of course it does it wrong. The problem with AI or robots as I like to call them, there's no consistency. There is no iterating. You can't iterate. You can't say you can do this on your own, you know, go into chat, GPT or whatever. Say, draw a picture of a house with a cat in the yard and the dog. Okay, great. If you say now make the sky blue, it'll remove the dog. You know, it does all kinds of other things.

[B]

Yeah, it can't. It is cascade. It cascades on its own.

[A]

Yes. And it can't. It's not reproducible. Use the same prompt twice in the same AI, it'll bring back two different results every single time. Time it is for business purposes when it worked. Now I'll be the first to say it's actually still faster for me to yell at it, you know, and typing a, typing at it say no, you did that wrong and it will fix it. It's still faster than me going back and, and fixing it. But it's very annoying and I've given up on thinking I can never get it right. Here's the second thing I've taught it how to make clips. Now what? Yes. FFmpeg is a well known open source program. Now if I say here's a France 24 clip, here's the URL clip it. Those are usually about a minute, 30 minute, 40. Perfect. It does it. It clips it. I have actually gotten pretty good at teaching it not to put the reporter tag at the end. So it knows program. So it does a transcript and then it cuts based upon the transcript. It can do that. It cannot think for itself. It cannot pull a clip out based upon a full sentence that someone is saying. It can't do it. It has no intelligence, it doesn't have ears, and it can't figure out what a good clip is, what a beat is with an intro, with an arc, with a payoff at the end, a hard cut. It cannot do it. Ergo, this crap is way overvalued and I think it's unusable for business. That said, for me, myself, it's a little, it's on par with having an intern. As long as the intern hands me the stuff and I go back and correct everything, it saves me 30 minutes. But it, it, I don't see where all the everyone's like, oh, it's just going to change business, we don't need people bullshit. It will Improve existing people's productivity. But you've got to show me a lot better output than what this stuff is doing right now. And Claude is supposed to be the creme de la creme. Which brings me to a boots on the ground, which I think you were copied on from Brad. And we've been talking about real jobs young people should be looking at in the, in the economy, in the new economy that Trump and General Besant are building. And he said, hey, I heard you bring up H vac again and the great wages. And you're not wrong. I've been a journeyman electrician for over 20 years and the wages keep going up along with heavy demand. All trades are great and provide incredible life. However, pay attention. There's one trade almost nobody talks about that is head and shoulders above all skilled trades. More money than anybody. Complete job protection. Do you remember this email?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The job is elevator mechanic. Highest pay by far, always in demand, no matter how the economy is doing that show up.

[B]

We have two elevator mechanics that show up at the Albany Mallard Club meetups.

[A]

Oh, really? Are they driving Bentleys?

[B]

No, but they're very proud of being elevator mechanics.

[A]

Elevator unions are run like mafia families, though it can be difficult to get into. But that doesn't mean outsiders don't get into it. So there you go. This is your tip of the day from your no agenda show, elevator mechanic. I mean this, this would be if we were doing the graduate 2026 version instead of plastic. We say, son, elevators. Get into elevators. People always need elevators. Elevators is good. So, so anyway, that is my AI experience and maybe it'll get better. And if it does, I will certainly share the clipping stuff with you. I've been doing it for five weeks. I'm using it. It sucks, but it's still a little faster than me doing everything by myself. But for $200 a month of anthropic token credits, I could probably hire an internal

[B]

who would probably do a better job. Okay, well, let's do it. You wanna, you got some, we got some goofball stuff here. I want to get out of the way.

[A]

Okay,

[B]

so there's this woman that came out, one of the.

[A]

Oh, I can't believe you clipped this. Let's just say an attractive woman with a belly shirt. Can we just add that to it? She's not just a woman, a good

[B]

looking gal, but it's beside the point. Her name's Elizabeth April and she's a psychic and she's, she brought, and she's on this podcast of course. This guy's lapping it up like every. You know, these podcast hosts that do a lot of interviewing, they just go along with everything, seems to me. Yeah, well, whatever it is.

[A]

They're doing my material from 12 years ago.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's funny that you're bringing the clips. We've had some kind of. I feel like I'm in a new version of the movie. Was it big where they switch places?

[B]

Yeah, well, we switched, I guess. So let's go with it. She's going to talk about. And I'm listening to this. I'm thinking it's reasonable what she's got to say about people being cloned.

[A]

Is that my cue to start the clip?

[B]

Yeah. Was it?

[C]

So many people like Simon Cowell.

[A]

Wait, Simon Cowell? Simon Cowell.

[C]

Have you seen the recent video?

[B]

I have.

[A]

So you think that's not him?

[C]

No. I don't know.

[B]

Wait, what is.

[C]

He's looking weird too.

[A]

Now. He's looking weird.

[B]

John Travolta looks like John B.

[A]

The singer. Exactly. I'm gonna show her John B. Did you see him?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So what is that about? Do you think that's like a Jim Carrey situation or.

[C]

I'm not sure, but they're definitely replacing people left, right, and center. And then I have a conspiracy theory.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[C]

That no one else has.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

So, you know, my big theory about cloning is they popularized plastic surgery to cover up the differences in clones. Like, Michael Jackson was the first major public clone and he was the first major quote unquote celebrity who got all the plastic surgeries and changed his appearance. And it really wasn't. It was actually a clone. But then you have OIC and you have this whole like ozempic gop. Whatever they're called. Drugs.

[A]

Right, Whatever they're called.

[C]

Major weight loss.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And they change your appearance drastically. And then you have something called andrenochrome. You guys know what that is?

[A]

Of course.

[C]

For those of you who don't know what that is, it's essentially a substance that comes from victims fear. It's essentially blood. And what happens is not humans drinking this. Reptilians, part of the elite, they drink Andrena chrome to essentially reverse age. They've had access to andrenochrome bring much since the dawning of humanity.

[A]

My favorite part of this is that she says andrenochrome where the term is adrenochrome. This woman is. I don't know why she's on a podcast other than she can get. She's cute. I got a belly shirt on. I'M slumped in my chair. Like, can I look at the skirt? Which. This was horrific.

[B]

Okay, I won't play the second half.

[A]

No, no, no, we'll play. Of course we'll play the second half.

[B]

But yeah, I think it was horrific. But.

[A]

But

[B]

the sound is something screwy about it.

[A]

Andrenochrome.

[B]

Some andrenochrome.

[A]

Let's play more. Yeah. No, because people think we're idiots.

[C]

What's happened since 2020 is the trafficking rings all over the planet are getting shut down. Especially since the death of Queen Elizabeth. She was like her head ripped. And then everyone vi for

[A]

when I saw that because they have pictures flow flying by. It's highly edited. I remember meeting Queen Elizabeth. She. She may have been a reptile, but there was not much going on. I don't know how much command she had of the reptilian world hour after she died.

[C]

After she died, no one could figure out who was going to be in charge.

[A]

What are you talking about? Prince King Charles is in charge of the reptilians. We all know that.

[C]

That everyone was fighting. And slowly but surely all these pockets of like, underground trafficked victims. So the supply of adrenochrome has diminished. So much so that these celebrities can't get their hands on it anymore.

[A]

It just came out too, that Ozempic is shredding your bones, grinding like a cheeseburger.

[B]

I know Jim Carrey is wholeheartedly different

[C]

and he would never accept an award. He's like, I'm not coming out again.

[A]

No.

[B]

Like he actually stood on business.

[A]

Business.

[B]

When it came to all the superficial Hollywood bulls, he was like, this is stupid.

[A]

Like, he makes fun of that stuff.

[C]

The thing is, like, they either take people out who aren't complying or they replace them with a clone. So I always say this, like, if they replace someone, then just watch what they're filming in next.

[A]

How come? It's an international law put in place by the U. N. To where human cloning is banned. Why would you have to ban it? Why would you have to ban it across the globe?

[B]

International national law.

[A]

Because it's creepy. How about that for a reason?

[C]

Well, they don't want companies doing it because the shadow government's already doing it.

[A]

Exactly. The shadow government. Like, it doesn't exist, but it's illegal. You can't do it, though. Here's another theory too. A lot of people from Congress are old trafficked victims. Like kids disappear all the time, right?

[B]

Then they put them through a program,

[A]

they emerge as some new person, they

[B]

run for office and they win how.

[A]

How come J.D. vance changed his name four times?

[B]

That's not his name.

[A]

I forgot the name, like, off the top of my head. But that's weird though, to where you have all these different names and you're just. Who are you? Well, now, now I'm gonna agree with that. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say that I am suspicious that Talarico may be one of those. That's completely possible. That guy looks put together like a Frankenstein. My goodness.

[B]

Yeah, it's the Andrenic competition, podcast competition we had.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

And obviously we should keep up with it.

[A]

We're losing.

[B]

We're losing to these people.

[A]

We're losing the Reptilians. We should just. Maybe Thursday we just do a show like that and we. And you know what? Less prep. It's a lot easier to do. We'll just call up some buddies, have them come on the show. You know, you got. You got to have your baseball hat. You need your baseball hat on backwards when you do this, John.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Definitely have to have back. Not completely backwards. Kind of backwards and sideways.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Well, while we're on this kind of thing, I want to.

[A]

Sorry, sorry. I was going to do something else, but. Okay. You need to continue this. Really. Can we.

[B]

No, I don't have any more of the cloning stuff, but I do have something that backs up one of our other things that we've noticed, which is the idea of making Tucker Carlson the President of the United States.

[A]

Ah, yes. Okay.

[B]

And Chink. Chink. Your buddy Chenk. Chunk, as you like to call him.

[A]

Yeah, Chunk. Chunk Uyghur. Yes, Chenk.

[B]

He's on board.

[A]

They only have one guy who could win and I'm worried about it, and that's Tucker Carlson. If Tucker runs in the Republican primary, he definitely wins that primary. You can quote me on it and then you could have Kevin laughing and you could rerun that tape. It'll be great. In fact, back in 2016, I was on ABC's this Week with Stephanopoulos. They asked the whole panel, who's gonna win? At that point, they just. On the Democratic National Convention and Hillary Clinton had a 10 point lead. I was the only one on the panel to say Donald Trump was gonn. And they all laughed out loud. Populists win. The people chasing after the donors. Whether it's Israel or Big Pharma or any of the other donors, nobody likes those people. Kamala Harris lost cuz she was bragging about how she had 90 corporate CEOs on her side. I got bad News for her. Nobody likes corporate CEOs. Sorry, Kevin. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. This makes no sense because it's the exact same. People like Chenko are saying that Massie was defeated by Jew money, not the guy was. I don't still even know the guy's name. Who is. Who is. Who is now the new senator from Kentucky? Do you know his name?

[B]

He's not a senator, he's a congressman.

[A]

Okay, I see. I don't even know that.

[B]

Yeah, obviously.

[A]

What's his name? What's his name? You don't know his name?

[B]

Garrison or something? He's got some.

[A]

So he had no name?

[B]

Pedestrian name?

[A]

No name recognition? No, but apparently it makes no difference now.

[B]

He's a Navy seal. I know that pick.

[A]

Elaine Cenk. People chasing after the donors. Whether it's Israel or Big Pharma or any of the other donors, nobody likes those people. Kamala Harris lost cuz she was bragging about how she had 90 corporate CEOs on her side. I got bad news for her. Nobody likes corporate CEOs. Sorry, Kevin. Sorry me. But the reality is that's what every poll shows. It is deeply, deeply unpopular. And these days it's pretty merited. So if. If you've got someone in the right lane, which is democratic capitalism, I think they win. Yeah. Okay, well, we'll see if Talarico wins in Texas. We'll see. We'll see.

[B]

The fact I don't think he can win in Texas.

[A]

There's a big fight.

[B]

Texans are not going to vote in a vegan. A vegan, period. Not to mention the fact that he's got vegan script. What?

[A]

No, go ahead, go ahead.

[B]

Not to mention the fact that he's got screwball religious beliefs.

[A]

Very much so. So I have two clips here of Paxton. And I think this is one of the reasons why he won. And it's not my favorite reason, but when you extrapolate what he's really saying, he's correct. Because there's a lot of fear. What is the number one fear of everybody in Texas? Everybody in Texas is worried about one thing and one thing only.

[B]

Muslim.

[A]

Because we are a Christian nation. We are a Christian state, period. The end. I took on our foreign adversaries as well. Stopped China from buying our land, tripled border security, designated cartels as terrorists. And I'm now taking on one of our most growing and biggest threats, which is Sharia law and Islamification. You know, Sharia law is organized crime, period. And I will treat it as such. I also Changed the law to stop these radical Muslim groups like CARE and Muslim Brotherhood from buying any property in Texas, treating Sharia law as organized crime. Can you please unpack that? That's. Pack that. Yeah. So look, we've got to make sure that this is not a religious liberties issue. This is not a First Amendment issue. Because if they're faithfully adhering to, adherent to their ideology, I call an ideology for a reason. In the Quran, they see us as the infidel that they can commit jihad against. This is an America first issue. This is a Texas first issue. This is a national security issue because they don't think we deserve the right to exist as Americans or as Christians. So he conflates a couple things here. I completely agree. Muslim Brotherhood, terrorist organization. In fact, that is the backbone of most terrorism we have witnessed in the past 50 years, probably even longer than that. It was started by the British MI6 back in the day. Council on America, Islamic Relations, also bad news, bad news.

[B]

They keep referring to them constantly. Npr, everybody goes to them for quotes.

[A]

Well, why. Okay, thank you for asking. Asking. Because liberals, and that would mainly be Democrats, but liberals, they always want to find someone who's oppressed. So that's why Gays for Palestine. And that's why they're all wearing kifies at every protest. Now. They're stupid because they haven't studied history. Because the socialists and the communists have always been used by these types of radical Islamists, which is different from Muslims Islamists, to gain political traction. And the first thing the Islamists do when they're in power is they kill the socialists and the communists. It's historical. So. But Paxton and a lot of Republicans are conflating this and, you know, to say, I don't think Paxton's ever looked at the Quran to say that we're the infidels, they got to kill us. It's, you know, it's not like a. It's not like a. A covenant like we have in the Bible. This was specific tribes that were written in the Quran that had to be gotten rid of. You know, it's, It's. He's taking things a little too far in his interpretation.

[B]

But you do.

[A]

But the. But ultimately he is correct because this is what we've seen in Europe. We've seen liberal groups use Islamists and, ergo, Muslims to take over countries. And you get a small country like Holland and They have a 1.5 birth rate, reproduction rate, which is negative. You bring in a whole bunch of Muslims and they're going at like bunnies. And before you know it, they take over. Over. And they took over Brussels and they've taken over all these different cities just by sheer numbers. I don't think we have to worry about that in Texas just yet.

[B]

What's the percentage of Muslims in Texas, Total of the population?

[A]

I'd have to ask.

[B]

Take a guess. I know what it is.

[A]

I'd say it's probably 4%. 2. 2%? Yeah. So we've got a ways to go. Go. But it's being used by people like Paxton, which, you know, here's another one. If a bunch of Indonesians came to live in your neighborhood, would you be freaking out or would you think, hey, maybe they got some good Indonesian food?

[B]

The latter for sure. I'd be very. If one of them could cook, there's no guarantee that somebody comes in from a foreign culture that they can actually cook.

[A]

What country has more Muslims than any other country in the world? Indonesia, number two. But they're also Pakistan, number three. India, number four. Bangladesh. It's a long way until you get down to Iraq, Iran and Somalia and all these other places. And London, London's got more than anybody. So I just want to say that just be careful, be careful with how Sharia. Sharia law, Sharia law, it is no different than the Talmudic law from the Jews, which a lot of people also hate. You know, got to wash your hands, don't shake hands. Shake hands with your left hand. Whatever it is, don't eat with your right hand. Don't eat this kind of food. You know, the Jews have. Don't eat shellfish. That's the main part of it. It's not like Sharia. And the rest is arbitration, which even smart lawyers, like the constitutional lawyer, agree with me. But it's become the. This catchphrase. You know, it's like Sharia. But Paxson is correct. We do need to stop the Islamist groups like Muslim Brotherhood and care. And there is an entire political party in the United States, the Democrat Party, that thinks they're being smart by using them as the poor, oppressed people. And they're all over the world. Free Palestine sign. And it's going to get really interesting if people don't get smart about what's happening. Here's the second clip. You'd say there was another part other than treating Sharia law as a criminal enterprise. You're going to be stripping away the power from these Muslim groups. How are you going to do that? Number one, we met a second degree felony to enforce Sharia law. I will make sure that that is enforced to the fullest extent. I don't even understand what that means.

[C]

You.

[A]

You can't. How about you can't enforce any other law than US Law, but you can't have arbitration if you want the law number two, change the law to stop these no go zones like you've seen in North Texas. Plano Islamic Center, Epic is one of them. They've renamed it to the Meadow. They're going to keep renaming it. But what this law, what he's trying to do here is make you think that this thing is built. It's not built. There's a mosque. There's no community. There's no meadow. None of that is real. You've only seen renderings online. But he. He's using it for his political gain. Which is the part I don't like. Does is it allows the AG to bring an action to deny public benefit. And what is that? Sewer, water, electricity, roads, management districts that makes sure that the Meadow remains a meadow. But the third that I mentioned earlier, probably the most powerful tool is stopping enemy entities from owning any property in Texas that includes critical infrastructure. So we need to continue to add to that list. Right now, CARE and Muslim Brotherhood are on that list. We need to keep adding, because what it does is it prevents them from owning any property in Texas and it allows the AG and I made sure that was in the law, to bring an action to force them to divest and sell their property. We cannot allow them to own one square inch in our great state.

[B]

State.

[A]

Look, I'm never retreating from Washington, D.C. because I'm never going to Washington D.C. i have always known that the fight is right here in the great state of Texas. I was born here, and I'll be buried here. This is it. No. So gonna be buried there and be buried there. Yeah. So, you know, yes, our problems worldwide, but certainly in the United States is Muslim Brotherhood is a huge problem. Care should be their 501c3 status should be taken away. They should be dealt with. They're no good. They're probably doing criminal things. And there may be others, but let's just be careful when we just say Muslims, because it is the Indonesians, it is the Pakistanis, it is the Indians, it is the Bangladeshis and the British now, I guess.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, I just wanted to get that off my chest.

[B]

Ebola in Brazil.

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

Ah.

[A]

Where's my. I had new Ebola jingles. Ah, hold on a second. Oh, brother. Ebola. No, no, no. Brand new ones. I'll Find them while I play the clip. Health officials say they've identified a suspected Ebola case in Brazil. If confirmed, it would be the first case outside Africa since the latest outbreak began in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Rory Gallimore reports. The Brazilian authorities say this suspected Ebola case is a man in his 30s. He has recently returned from a trip to the DRC and is now being kept in isolation at a specialist hospital in Sao Paulo State. Tests are being carried out confirm the exact nature of his illness, but this could mark an escalation in this outbreak. Until now, the vast majority of infections have been registered in the east of the drc, with a handful across the border in Uganda. There have been more than 240 deaths so far. The medical charity MSF has described the situation as deeply alarming. But health workers have successfully contained many Ebola outbreaks in the past. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, I have. I did.

[B]

You lost the jingle?

[A]

No, I found them. I found them. Hold on a second. I'm bringing it to you right now. These are great. I was so happy with them. Here we go. Ebola, Ebola. It has been with us two times in our lives. Now is the third. Now it's time to speak about Ebola. Ebola, Ebola. Yeah, baby.

[B]

AI.

[A]

No kidding. Hello. Wow, you're sharp.

[B]

I am.

[A]

We did see that Tedros, who talks about death, he went to the Congo.

[B]

I thought that took a lot of nerve.

[A]

Oh, and. And he was all dressed up in his. In his World Health Organization camos. You know, they all have uniforms now. And here he is.

[C]

The head of the World Health Organization visited Eastern Congo's Bunia on Saturday.

[A]

Looking forward to stop this Ebola.

[B]

Looking to be here with the community

[A]

and under the leadership of the government. More logistic support, more financial support. But while focusing on the emergency, we should use it as opportunity to build the health system. Because in every crisis there is opportunity. And that's how we should manage this confidence. I think the. This guy's no good. Hold on. We'll get the second part of the report.

[B]

Terrible.

[C]

Bonia, a city in the Ituri province, is at the heart of the Ebola outbreak in the African country, actually. Experts warn the virus is spreading faster than the response, despite better organized health facilities and new aid arrivals. Latest official figures show more than a thousand suspected cases and more than 200 suspected deaths. Neighboring Uganda has confirmed nine cases and one death.

[A]

Isn't. Is John McCain's ex wife? Is her name Cindy?

[B]

Yeah, Cindy McCain.

[A]

Yeah. Well, she's. She's a Part of the. Of the problem.

[C]

World Food Program executive director Cindy McCain is stepping down from her post Monday. During her three years at the helm of the UN agency, there have been two famines. And when we spoke with her late last week from Rome, she told us we're looking potentially at several more, among

[A]

many other challenges, by the way, if you're, if you're the head of the World Food Program, you get a. You get an apartment in Rome. That's the gig, right? Why not?

[B]

What was Rome got to do with the price of bread?

[A]

That's where your, your headquarters are. You got to be in Rome. It's like being in Paris. It's great.

[C]

Emergency response to Ebola in the Congo. That's a country that's already struggling, as I understand it, with about 27 million food insecure people. I know the US State Department is pledging some help here, but what are you hearing about the situation on the ground for emergency responders like yours? Yes, it's not good hitting people in a mass way. And there's really no way to know right now how many people have been affected by this. We know that it's a rampage now with this. So what we need to do is not only be able to get in, we run logistics, we bring in supplies, we bring in people. And we do much more than that as well, just in the region. But this is going to take a real world effort. This is very deadly.

[A]

Very, very deadly. Hey, maybe that's why Peter Thiel has moved to Argentina. You've been following that story?

[B]

No, tell me about it.

[A]

Oh, so apparently he bought a house in Argentina and he's put his kids in school there in Argentina. And everyone's saying, well, what's going to happen in America if he's moving to Argentina?

[B]

But then he was also one of those guys who bought a place in New New Zealand.

[A]

Yeah, but he put his kids in school. That's. That's the big one. He put his kids in school. Maybe he just doesn't want to live in New York.

[B]

And he has kids. He's gay.

[A]

Yeah, but you can have kids.

[B]

Well, I never heard that he has kids.

[A]

Well, that's interesting.

[B]

I never heard that he was married to a guy or a girl or anybody in between.

[A]

H. Well, now you make an interesting point. I don't think I've ever heard that either either. Book of Knowledge. Does Peter Thiel have kids and is he married? Here we go. Oh, Peter Teo is what the Book of Knowledge. Understood. Let's see if he figures that One out. According to the book of knowledge. Peter Thiel is married to Matt Dan Zeisson. And they have two daughters born through surrogacy. Now there you go. Thus it has been written. What do you know? Know?

[B]

I guess I didn't know that he keeps it. Keeps it on the down low.

[A]

Keeps it on the down low.

[B]

Yeah, the down low is pretty gone from being the down low.

[A]

Well, the last thing you want is to be a homeowner in New York City. Here's the latest from the socialist Mayor Mamdani. Through our new citywide campaign, Fix the City, we will focus on the worst landlords in New York City. When necessary, we will take aggressive legal action. Action to remove negligent owners and property managers.

[B]

Get them out of here.

[A]

Chronic neglect. We will work to transfer ownership to responsible stewards. Stewards that include community land trusts, nonprofits, or even the tenants themselves. We're going to remove you. I love that. That'll be fun to watch.

[B]

Yeah, the court case will be fun to watch. He's not going to get anywhere with that bullcrap.

[A]

Well, so what was interesting is the response to the. The Jill Biden book and her interview. And I think I had. Let me just. I'll play.

[B]

He was having a stroke.

[A]

Yeah, this is exactly. Only play that clip. This is the one that everyone's all up in arms about.

[C]

When she arrived at the first presidential debate of 2024, she saw. Saw that President Biden wasn't feeling well. But then Joe always. Even if he was off a little bit, he'd always rally. And I thought, okay, so he'll get in there in that debate and he'll. He'll be fine. He's going to rally. But he got in there. He got into the debate and he didn't.

[A]

Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary. This was great. I love this package. Because that wasn't in the clip that everyone was posting on X. They actually put in. In the pieces. And this was from CBS this Morning. They put in the pieces of the, of the debate. And when you hear it, it's just like, wow, it really was really, really, really bad, the debate.

[C]

And he didn't.

[A]

Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for. What I've been able to do with the, with the COVID Excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with. Look, if we finally beat Medicare.

[C]

Were you horrified?

[A]

You remember how bad that was?

[B]

Yeah, I remember the whole thing.

[C]

As you saw.

[B]

It was hilarious.

[C]

I wasn't Horrified. I was frightened because I had never ever seen Joe like that before or since.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

Never since.

[C]

Yes. Or since. Never seen. Never.

[A]

Never.

[C]

Why did it happen? I don't know what happened. I mean, when I. As I watched it, I thought, oh, my God, he's having a stroke. And it scared me to death. And then he. He never seemed to find himself. Find himself. Yeah. After that. But then, I have to tell you, as we were walking out, you know, he said, I really. And I'm not going to use the words because it's morning tv, but I really sort of messed up, didn't I?

[A]

So remember when we were talking about this and how that went down and how we were pretty sure that this whole thing was sabotaged, that, you know, they didn't give him his meds or a shot or whatever they typically.

[B]

Yeah, he. Normally. It's a shot that.

[A]

Yeah. Zapped up. And then when Jill Biden went to vote, she was wearing a red dress. And I think we kind of floated the idea, like, well, maybe. Maybe she switched sides. Maybe she's doing this to help Trump. There was a lot of weirdness about that whole period because that was when it was obvious Trump was going to win. And then they did the switcheroo. So now this book comes out. Out. And this book is. The timing is interesting. Why now? Why right now is he. You know, why does her. Jill Biden has a book and she's writing about all this stuff, and it's kind of on the. On the cusp of the midterms, and it has thrown the Democrats for a loop. And the example I have is the Pod Save America podcast. And these are. Aren't there two of those guys, the former speechwriters for Obama?

[B]

And they're two of the speechwriters for Obama, and they're.

[A]

They're kind of insider elites for the Democrat Party.

[B]

They like to present themselves as such.

[A]

So they are so mad. They do what all Democrats do when they're mad. They start cussing like crazy. So you're forewarned.

[B]

Hold on a second. Just to back you up on this a little bit.

[A]

It would be.

[B]

Then it would be interesting that she has appeared on cbs.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

But not the other networks.

[A]

Good point, good point. Well, these guys, the insider elites to the Democrat Party are mad and cussing ensues. I don't think they appreciated being fucking lied to. Who didn't just lie about the debate performance, but gaslighted, gaslit everyone and told us we were all overreacting. Bedwetters, that their polls were fine, that the fucking debate was fine. And now Joe Biden's like, yeah, we were lying the whole time and they went after us personally.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I went from feeling kind of bad about it, about the whole situation, to being like, oh, okay, fuck you. Then the people who are saying, why don't you let it go? Why are you talking about this? I didn't make Joe Biden write a book and then whine about how Joe Biden was. You're talking over the good parts here the whole time. And they went after us personally.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I went from feeling kind of bad about the whole situation to being like, oh, okay, fuck you. Then the people who are saying, why don't you let it go? Why are you talking about this? I didn't make Joe Biden write a book and then whine about how Joe Biden was mistreated by our podcast, Nancy Pelosi, the party, right. You know, mistreated the American people. There is never a second of remorse or an apology for their utterly disastrous decision. And people don't trust the Democratic Party. And it's not going to bite us in the ass in the midterms, but it will bite us in the ass in 2028, I promise. No, there you go. There they go. This. It's turmoil, I tell you. Turmoil. I can't think. I can't think. I can't think that that's not something that was planned. I kind of liked it. Okay. There's something. Something going on there.

[B]

Well, I'm not going to die. Like, I'm liking that thesis.

[A]

This we should keep an eye on. I want to go back to the Reagan National Economic Forum. I got a General Besant did a whole. He did a whole keynote which is. I'm not going to play it, but the clips will be in the show. Notes can. People can listen to. Was quite good. You know, he started with Reagan. And you know how, you know, America does one thing right, when we mess up, we admit it and we move on. And, you know, America was asleep in this.

[B]

That'll be the day.

[A]

But he sat down with a Kudlow and I have a couple clips. Who cares about Kudlow? Don't get. Don't get all. You don't get panties in a bunch about Kudlow. I'm telling you, is Kudlow. And he's on Fox, right? Is he on Fox? He is on Fox.

[B]

Yeah. He's got a. He's got a show on Fox that's on Fox Business. Let's get that right.

[A]

Yes, yes.

[B]

And he never talks about business.

[A]

Why would widget and the two things that I'll pull out of this. Because General Besant mentioned something here and I was like, huh, okay, hold on a second. We heard this briefly on episode 1872, and it was the $250 bill. Do you remember this?

[B]

Yeah, it was in the newsletter.

[A]

Yeah, right. So you, so you remember it because it was. You don't send me the newsletter anymore for review. Why is that? That?

[B]

Because we have two guys copy editing it.

[A]

But then, but see then I don't know that the. What's in the newsletter? Because the newsletter goes to my enormous newsletters bin because it has the word newsletter and unsubscribe in it. And I, and I, and I forget to parse through my email and I feel bad that I haven't seen the, the newsletter. Could you just send.

[B]

We just send you the test.

[A]

Could you please not the test, just send me. But I want it from you.

[B]

No, the test is.

[A]

The test also goes to my newsletter bin.

[B]

It goes well, that's all we can do now there's the workflow has changed.

[A]

Workflow? What are you using AI for this thing, by the way?

[B]

Just telling you. Okay, Geez, you got all these little gotchas in your. Oh, you can't do this, you can't do that. I send you an email, I get a kind of a response up to two weeks later. Typically. Yeah, I saw that video. That guy's an idiot. Okay. What? Oh, that video I sent you two weeks ago?

[A]

Yes. You send me videos to watch. I'm a busy guy. I'm producing my shit, my part of the show.

[B]

You're busy. All you talked about at the beginning of the show is watching TV.

[A]

Yeah. All right, so the $250 bill, what is your take? What did you say in the newsletter about the $250 bill?

[B]

Nothing important. I just said that Trump wants to do one and no one's going to do this. It's not going to happen.

[A]

So the $250bill. First of all, I called our bank bank. And I said bank manager. His name is also Adam. Hey, Adam, if this thing comes out, I want one. Reserve one for me. I gotta have one of these. So Besson is asked about this and an interesting term came up. So you were mentioning in your talk. We are here at this conference celebrating 250th birthday of America and looking ahead for the next couple of hundred hundred years. I can't help but ask you, are we really going to have a $250 bill with Donald Trump's picture on it. Well, the whole world is waiting. So for the 150th, there was a Calvin Calvin Coolidge coin. Oh, God, I love that. With, with his image on it, we are going to have the image of President Trump on a coin. And there is a proposed legislation in the House to put President Trump on the $250 bill. As Treasury Secretary, I am only mandated to do two things with the design of the currency at present. It has to be someone who is not living and it must say in God we trust and do whatever else I want. And look, I think that if you are the president, just like Calvin Coolidge was for the 150th, if you're the president for the 250th, President Trump should be on there. And for any of you who are the want to geek out in monetary theory, there's something called seigniorage. So we print treasury prints currency. The Fed distributes it and we have about 2.4, 2.6 trillion outstanding and that's a free loan. So we put currency out there and we don't have to pay any interest on it. So with seigniorage, I think that you get the $250 bill. I think a lot of people are just going to put those away and hold them. I'm sure it'll be a good deal. It's a good free one. So I really like this seigniorage. If he made enough of them, it's an interest free loan which they can write treasury bonds against and get interest rates on. Yeah, that's a great idea.

[B]

Yeah, it's an interesting idea. He's not going to get his picture on the bill because it has to be approved by Congress, but.

[A]

Well, there's a bill in Congress to do this.

[B]

And you think guys like Thomas Massie and all these other pissed off Republicans are going to vote for it?

[A]

No.

[B]

You think a Democrat's going to vote for it?

[A]

No.

[B]

So. Well, and they got what, leeway of about five votes? No, they're not going to get it through.

[A]

Well, you, you miss the other possibility, you're dead. Yeah. Not living. So he needs to be unalived. And then we got our money. It's a lot of money. Just saying.

[B]

So this isn't happening.

[A]

All right. I might have to go to Polymarket on this one. I think it will happen. I think Besant will somehow make this happen. Besant, he's, he's the general man.

[B]

Yeah, he's, he's got good. He wants to do it, but it's not going to happen.

[A]

He's got.

[B]

It's just like the moonshot.

[A]

He's got juice, man. He's got juice. I'm telling you, he can do it. I like the idea, though. The whole idea of.

[B]

It's a cute idea. And we need something other than the hundred we used to have. 500 bills. Let's bring those back into play.

[A]

No, no one's gonna. You can't spend that. We can barely even spend a whole hundy hundo. It's a hundy. Rig D's always called it a hundy, not a hundo.

[B]

So we have a new obesity drug.

[A]

Oh, goodness, we do.

[B]

Eli Lilly.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Is this a pill? I'll bet it's a pill. The next generation of obesity medication is getting closer to reality. Eli Lilly is studying a new drug. Test results show it's more powerful, even more powerful than the obesity shots and pills already on the market. NPR pharmaceuticals correspondent Sidney Lupkin is here to tell us about it. Good morning. Good morning. I'm so glad you're the one who's going to pronounce the name of this new drug. What is it?

[C]

The new drug is called Retatrutide. So it's a weekly injection, just like Wegovy and Zepbound, but it's a little different. Wegovy and zepbound target the GLP1 hormone. This new drug works on three hormones, GLP1, GIP and glucagon. And that makes it more powerful. Powerful.

[A]

When you say more powerful, you gotta sell me because I have seen the results in human beings of the existing drugs. How powerful is it?

[C]

Yeah. So Eli Lilly, the company that makes retatrutide, says that in the clinical trial, people taking it for 80 weeks lost an average of more than 70 pounds

[A]

at the highest dose.

[C]

For comparison, patients taking the placebo over the same period, they lost five pounds. Those were the latest findings from its phase three clinical study. I asked Dr. Carolyn Francavilla, who is the vice president of the Obesity Medicine association, what she she thought. I have goosebumps. Of course, we've seen some preliminary data about this before, so it's, it's not shocking. But to have a medication that can have an average of 28 weight loss is truly game changing. This is essentially bariatric surgery, but in a weekly injection.

[A]

Wow. Wow. NPR bringing the shills in, you think? You know, I've been reading studies about GLP1, and what it really does is it takes Away your joy.

[B]

Oh yeah, that's an interesting little tidbit that seems to be documented quite well. You don't want to do anything, you're just a dud.

[A]

Well, in that regard. So it takes away your joy from eating food, from drinking wine, from smoking cigarettes, from snorting coke, but it just takes away your joke joy.

[B]

I've heard sex too.

[A]

Yes, people, I don't really want to have sex, you know, and all the other stuff about, you know, but you

[B]

look so good, I don't care.

[A]

However, in that regard, it's a gateway drug to SSRIs because your joy is gone, you're going to be depressed. Boom. Lexapro.

[B]

Interesting idea. Now the number three in today's thesis count.

[A]

Got to write them down.

[C]

So to compare, lose around 20% of their body weight over time. So if it ends up that this drug is closer to the results for bariatric surgery, that's significant because surgery is risky, but nothing is without side effects. Retatrutides were similar to other GLP1 drugs such as nausea and other gastrointestinal issues.

[A]

Is this drug good enough that people assuming it's approved by the FDA will want to switch to it?

[C]

You know, it won't be for everyone. In fact, Francavilla said it may be too powerful for some people. That's why having options is important. And now we have zepbound wegovy pill Foundeo. Here's Francavilla again. We're really going to have to think about, you know, moving forward, which medication makes sense for which patients. But I mean, if you would have told me this a decade ago, I would have thought it was a lie.

[B]

It's lies.

[C]

Of course. A big issue is access. The obesity drugs already in the market are expensive and a lot of insurance plans don't cover them. Even though obesity is considered a chronic condition. If you're willing to go outside your health insurance, obesity drugs are available at a discount from Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk directly, but a lot of people still can't afford them.

[A]

How expensive is the new drug likely to be?

[C]

You know, we don't know yet. It's still early days for retatru Tied. The company hasn't published these study results yet in a peer reviewed journal. Retatrue Tide is not yet approved by the Food and Drug Administration. Eli Lilly says it's planning to submit it for approval by the end of the year and then it could be a while before the FDA would have pre approved commercial. That said, Dr. Frankavilla has heard about people supposedly buying a knockoff version of this drug off the Internet. She says don't do that. You don't know what you're getting and it could be dangerous.

[A]

Oh, you can make it at home. Oh, well that's good to know. I want to lead into a boots on the ground that we got but it comes first with a pre preceded by a few clips regarding the price of oil which no sooner had I said watch it come down, then it came down.

[C]

And as we've been discussing, if we take a look at oil prices you can see down today moves off more than 1% both for Brent and WTI again after the US and Iranian negotiators apparently reaching an agreement to extend the cease fire on the month. If we take a look at oil prices, you can see big losses that to the tune of 16 to nearly 19% that both WTI and Brent crude Again. Oil markets seem to be looking past the war. They seem to be optimistic that a deal would come through. So we see those big double digit losses in the oil moves.

[A]

I like how it's called losses when everyone else is cheering yay, it's like 87 bucks. Now the WTI 776 and Brent is what, 91.

[B]

776 is a 250th anniversary.

[A]

So the the CEO of Chevron who previously in the week had been saying oh it's going to be $200. We're getting at the bottom of scraping the bottom. The bottom of the barrel is no good. He's on Bloomberg. Little different story. Let's talk about the reason for this conversation in central banks right now, at least one of them crude on track, at least for now for its steepest monthly decline since 2020. Optimism building for resumption of traffic through the Strait of Hormuzzi as producers are highlighting the risk of an extended closure. Chevron's been warning, quote, we will start to see physical shortages. The CEO Mike Worth, I'm very pleased to say joins us in the studio. Mike, it's good to see you. Good to see you, John. Welcome back to the program, sir. I get this question a lot. You're the expert. Help me answer it. Why is crude at 100 at 90 and not close to the 200 given this strait has been shut for three months? You know, it's a little hard to explain. We really are seeing because we just jacked the price up on you for no reason. That's why markets tighten. Inventories draw demand for products around the world still very strong. I think there's this belief and we, you know, we're experiencing it again the last few days, that the end is near, the conflict is nearly resolved and flow through the strait will resume very quickly. And that has kept the back end of the curve lower than it might otherwise have been. And I think the psychology of the market has been this is closer to the end rather than the beginning. Not just that, though, there's some other things at play that you're no agenda show has mentioned.

[C]

How far are we away from having pipelines that connect some of these countries to the mainland and their production without having to traverse the strait at all?

[A]

Well, there's a couple that exist now that you've, you've talked about in Saudi and the UAE sanctioned a project last year which is about 50% complete, to get more of their production over to Fajira and outside of the strait. So I think you'll see more of that, Lisa, the one opportunity there is countries like Iraq and Kuwait that are deeper up in the Gulf don't have access to those pipelines. And for them, the route could be through the north and ultimately then into the Mediterranean, maybe through Turkey, where we see a pipeline comes out of Caspian Sea over into the Mediterranean in Turkey. And so I do think one of the responses to this will be infrastructure investments that will allow these energy flows to avoid this trade to Hormuz. And that's underway now. And I think you'll see that in the years that follow. There's your Turkey, John. That's why Turkey was weaseling in on the deal.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Hey, boys, we got a pipeline over here. Come on, bring it over here. This is going to be fine. Now, the problem is July 4th. It's going to be a little tricky if the president, somehow, if he, I don't think he can do it. But if Congress decides to remove the federal tax, which is 18 cents, that may make a difference. We got a boots on the ground from Sam. And Sam runs a gas station, an independent gas station in King County, Washington, and he does about a million gallons a year, a thousand customers a day. He's an unbranded. And it was a nice note. I put the whole note.

[B]

It was a good note. It had a lot of information in it.

[A]

Yeah. Now he's in Washington state. So he says, you know, we got hidden fees, 78 cents per gallon at the pump, 52 cents per gallon, refinery carbon credits, which has doubled his operating costs. He says there's absolutely no difference between brand Gasolina and unbranded Gasolina. It's the exact same stuff comes through the same pipeline, the same mix. Everything is all the same. The main thing he wants everybody to know is that he's on two week contracts, so his Gasolina will not go up or down immediately. It takes about two weeks because he just doesn't have the purchasing power that the big brands have. So Trump has got to do something very, very quickly in order to get a significant drop by July 4th. It's possible, I guess. And the other thing he wants everybody to know is please, please, please, please, please go to your unbranded Gasolina state and pay Gasolina. I like the sound of it. Do you mind?

[B]

No. It sounds like code or something. You're trying to.

[A]

Well, because if you're trying to make

[B]

a point about something or you're speaking pigeon Spanish, I'm not sure what you're doing there.

[A]

Well, I guess if you say gas is so confusing because gas could be natural gas. Liquid natural. I like gasoline. Should I just say. You want me to say gasoline will make you feel better? Gasoline.

[B]

Well, it's gasoline, not Gasolina.

[A]

Well, we also call the secretary of state Lubio.

[B]

Well, that's his name in China.

[A]

One of our producers sent me a note, said I heard some guys at the coffee shop. Then he literally called Rubio Lubio and I was going to go over and give him an in the morning, but I chickened out. I'm like, you would have been guaranteed.

[B]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[A]

No one else calls Rubio Lubio but our people.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Anyway, back to Sam. He says, please pay in cash. He says it's so much better for the debit card.

[B]

Same thing.

[A]

Is there no processing fee for the gas station on a debit card?

[B]

Typically in California there's not because they have the debit card price is the same as the cash price, I think.

[A]

I don't know if I'd have to look, look. That's a good point. Well, Sam will have to send a follow up, but cash or debit card if possible. Although I've paid with debit card. The thing with debit cards is it gets declined half the time and the other 5 out of 10 times you use it, your number gets jacked and you have to get a new card. Debit cards are dangerous.

[B]

I have used a debit card for the last 25 years and I've had none of these issues. And it never gets declined.

[A]

Tina always gets popped.

[B]

Always.

[A]

Yeah, her credit cards, too. It's amazing.

[B]

Well, it's her then.

[A]

That's what I keep telling Her.

[B]

She won't.

[A]

She won't believe me. Won't believe me anyway, so it's already gone down. I think gasoline went down by 8 or 10 cents. I saw here in Texas. It's already down here. Well, you're in California. You got special rules for everything. But I, you know, we'll see. It's going to be tight. It's going to be real tight. It's got to do something quick in order to get it. Get it down substantially. You know, it was Newt Gingrich, I think. New Gingrich. Do I have that clip still? Gingrich, Gingrich, maybe a Don. Gingrich was saying the other day, if Trump. Trump can get gasoline in the. Yeah, no, screw that. I thought I had this clip. If Trump can get gasoline down to about three and a half dollars, which I don't think is possible, he says the Republicans will win the midterms. That's New Gingrich. That's what he says. There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. There's a lot of change in. In electoral maps. There's stuff going on. You know, they may pull it off. I don't know.

[B]

They're not pulling off nothing.

[A]

Okay, you want to put a bet on it? You want to put a bet on it?

[B]

Okay, so what would the bet be for?

[A]

$1, of course.

[B]

No. Well, okay, I can do a dollar bet, but what would the bet before. I mean, what would be the structure of the bet?

[A]

Okay, Republicans keep the House and the Senate.

[B]

And you're going to put a dollar on that?

[A]

Well, I can do a buck fifty.

[B]

I will do a dollar.

[A]

I'm a podcaster, man.

[B]

Let's listen to a little NPR's plug for one of their shows, AI Gods. You like this one?

[A]

Millions of people are already turning to AI for spiritual guidance, asking it moral

[B]

questions, Christians seeking comfort, even chatting with

[A]

AI versions of their gods. Yeah, this. Is this a full show of their gods?

[B]

How many people have gods?

[A]

Oh, the Hindus, I think. Hindus have gods. Yeah, they have multiple gods. Is this for a show or an episode? Must be fun.

[B]

No, it's for a podcast.

[A]

For one episode of a podcast.

[B]

Yeah, well, they have a whole AI thing they're doing.

[A]

Yeah, well, this comes on the heels of the Pope's encyclical.

[B]

Well, the Pope has some negative things to say about AI.

[A]

Yeah, you know, I listen to it. He doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm sorry. He's just, you know, like. Well, it's Horrible. And yeah, I completely agree that I've always said the chat bots, no matter what you're asking it for, for spiritual advice for, you know, relationships.

[B]

What should be asking spiritual advice for from a computer? Hello.

[A]

There is a large amount of people who do not want to speak to their pastor about certain things who are turning to AI chatbots, particularly Gloo.com G L O O.

[B]

Never heard of it.

[A]

Oh, they're pretty big glue G L O O dot or maybe dot AI, which is a specific Christian faith based AI. And they are pouring their hearts out to these, to these chatbots. And I think it's a very bad idea. But there are. People are. Don't want to speak to a human being about things anymore. I mean, come on, you can't, you can't say that this is not happening, that people aren't talking.

[B]

No, it's obviously happening or they wouldn't do a whole podcast about it. I got another plug from a NPR show for something I want to ask you about.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

ID Tech.

[A]

ID Tech. All right, here we go.

[C]

This message comes from ID Tech, the original tech camp experience Camp Crunch Labs, IRL, BattleBots and more. Held at Stanford, UC Berkeley and San Francisco State.

[A]

Oh, I gotta listen to that again. Hold on, hold on.

[C]

This message comes from ID Tech, the original Tech Tech Camp Experience camp, Crunch Labs, IRL BattleBots and more held at Stanford, UC Berkeley and San Francisco State.

[A]

Yeah, it's a summer camp. ID Tech.

[B]

The original. It says it's the original tech camp. Since when?

[A]

Well, when is the last time you went to camp?

[B]

So this thing's all over the country. I looked it up.

[A]

ID Tech?

[B]

Yeah, it's huge. It's monstrous. Done by some.

[A]

That sounds pretty cool. What do you do there, ID Tech?

[B]

I don't know. I have no idea. You learn how to do a battlebot.

[A]

A bottle. Did you say battlebot or Bottle bot? It must be Battle Battle.

[B]

You know, you know the robots that fight.

[A]

Yeah, that show has gotten boring. I look at it, I'm like,

[B]

okay, I got another one for you. This is from kqed. Gender Expansive cuts Nonprofit serving girls, which

[A]

is kind of funny just by itself. Nonprofit serving girls and Gender Expansive youth in the bay area and LA lost $113 million in funding last year under the Trump administration. That's according to a new report from the nonprofit alliance for Girls, which calls the loss an existential crisis. Chantal Hildebrand is the organization's executive director.

[C]

So either they've shrunk and are no longer able to serve as many young people as they were before or they were in their entirety because there's just no more funding for it. That means that it's also less of an investment in the actual young people, as well as not having services in some of our communities that are the

[A]

most like what she says, nonprofits need more public support in the form of volunteers and donations. The. The money supply from the government got cut off. That's what it sounds like to me.

[B]

Yeah, but what's it. What is it goes to gender expansive? What does that even mean? Well, it's on the girls. It's for girls. But what. What money are we talking about? What? I. I know kids. Nobody's got. There's no money going into their pocket. They don't get any special places to do anything. What are they talking about? This is bull crap. I don't know. Did you look at creation?

[A]

Did you look it up some?

[B]

No, there's nothing to look up. I can't figure it out. Oh, they cut $110 million away. From what? I don't know.

[A]

Okay, well, you seem very upset by it.

[B]

I'm very upset about this. This is just constant waste of money.

[A]

There's a lot of money being wasted. Definitely.

[B]

And what's gender expansive?

[A]

I don't know. I would expect. You brought the clip. You would have looked it up.

[B]

I looked up. I couldn't figure it out.

[A]

Well, then I don't have the answer with gender expansion.

[B]

Okay, let's go to another annoying clip

[A]

I can get mad about. What is he just. Is this. John's getting.

[B]

I'm in a bad mood. Why climate? Why climate? Why?

[A]

Why are you in a bad mood?

[B]

Because climate. Because the donations are just terrible today. It's embarrassing.

[A]

There it is. In a controversial move, state regulators have

[B]

approved major changes to a key state climate program. California's Air Resources Board voted yesterday to

[A]

create a $4 billion fund for big

[B]

bleeders to invest in decarbonization project.

[A]

But climate transit and affordable housing advocates worry it might mean significantly less money for their programs. Judson True is with the San Francisco Municipal Transit Agency. Transit, including Muni, is crucial to achieving our climate protection goals and ensuring affordability. And this vote is a setback for both of those causes. The decision comes months after industries warned

[B]

that compliance with current rules would drive

[A]

them out of the state and increase energy prices. Okay,

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

You're just playing stuff that makes you mad.

[B]

Yeah, I know. I got a bunch of it, too. Well, how about this one?

[A]

No, no, no, no. No, I got to stop you. I have to stop you from hurting yourself. You just. Your blood pressure is up. I want to ask you a question after I played this clip. This is Pratt. Pratt, with all the cool commercials. He's. I think he says Tom Llamas, Namas, Lamas. Governor Gavin Newsom just endorsed Karen Bass today saying, quote, the work Karen Bass is doing in L. A is making our entire state.

[B]

What a joke.

[A]

What?

[B]

It's a joke that Karen Bass is doing good work.

[A]

Let's finish the. Governor Gavin Newsom just endorsed Karen Bass today saying, quote, the work Karen Bass

[B]

is doing in LA is making our

[A]

entire state stronger with an 18% decline in homelessness, while nationally, historic drops in violence, violent crime, boosting film production, la and protecting our communities against ice. She has my full support for reelection. Do you think that endorsement is going

[B]

to help Karen Bass?

[A]

I think that endorsement. These two are co conspirators. They're criminal partners in the negligence that led to 7,000 houses burning down. You think Governor Gavin Newsom's a criminal? In my opinion, it's criminal negligence when you fail your taxpayers and they burn alive because of choices you made with your state park that you're responsible from. Same with Mayor Karen Bass, again, is my opinion. I believe if you let people burn alive because of your negligence, that becomes criminal negligence. Now, first of all, Pratt is very smart here because Lamas tries to nail him on the. Do you think he's a criminal? Are you going to say he's a criminal right now? And Pratt goes. Now, in my opinion, you are criminally negligent. Negligent. So he's very smart. Smart.

[B]

No. Pratt's sharp.

[A]

I, however, do not think he's going to win.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

He's not. They're going to cheat, they're going to steal. They're going. Whatever it is, he will not win. I just don't see California is too rotten for him to win.

[B]

Do you think I have the opposite opinion? Because I've heard this before.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

My opinion is that they can't afford to rig the election against him because he's got too much momentum and it's going to become obvious that the state is full of scams and it will cause a backlash. So they can't take a chance. It's just a minor office. It's mayor of la. Who cares? And Karen Bass hasn't endeared herself to anybody. She's a, you know, a communist for all practical purposes. So they're going to let win.

[A]

Well, if they let him win, he will probably fail spectacularly. You got to think the whole city council, the whole system is completely rotten and corrupt to the core. How long is. What is the tenure for a Los Angeles mayor? How many years is that?

[B]

I don't know. Ask the robot. I think it's four years.

[A]

I'll ask the robot. Book of Knowledge. How many years does the mayor of Los Angeles serve? I'm glad we have the robot today. It's getting a lot of good use out of the robot. Okay, according to the Book of Knowledge, the mayor of Los Angeles serves a four year term with a limit of two consecutive terms. Okay, four years. That's. Thus it has been written, four years. It's going to be very hard for him to. If he wins. Very hard to get anything done. But I. I don't know. There they are, insane people. They're crazy.

[B]

Well, I, I have to agree with that. The second thing, which is another reason they'll let him win, because he can't do that much damage or he can't damage. He can't fix the damage that easily. With the city council being a bunch of boneheads. This happens in San Francisco. The city council is completely out of control.

[A]

Yeah. What. Why do you still live that? You love it. I think you really. I think you just love having horrible people.

[B]

I don't live in San Francisco. I don't live in Los Angeles. I live in a small community. Community?

[A]

Yeah. With people who read the New York Times all up and down the street.

[B]

I know, it's great.

[A]

And then in New Jersey, it seems like no sooner do we have a Democrat. This is my old state. New Jersey. I love New Jersey. Lots of friends still in New Jersey. So they bring in a Democrat governor and right away she's doing exactly what the party wants. Oh, let's stir up some crap. Let's make ICE look bad. Let's make Trump look bad. All the people are wearing caffeine on the street. I haven't seen the professionally printed signs yet, but they're coming.

[C]

Tensions continue to flare outside the Delaney Hall Immigration Detention Center.

[A]

Newark, by the way, is not exactly the same as New Jersey.

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Newark, New Jersey protesters who say living conditions in the building are inhumane, clashing with immigration enforcement supporters Saturday morning. This following a night of violent encounters between ICE officers and demonstrators being met with tear gas and pepper spray Friday. Just hours earlier, New Jersey Governor Mickey Sherrill announced plans to set up a safe zone for protesters to avoid a repeat of the chaos that enveloped the streets of Minneapolis between ICE agents and American Citizens just months ago. We know what ICE has done in other states, and we know Americans lost their lives.

[A]

Kill people.

[C]

And I refuse to let that happen in New Jersey. The escalation in protest.

[B]

Hold on.

[C]

300 miles.

[B]

Can you back it? That's. That woman has. Is in the same milieu as Pam Bondi. She sounds just like her.

[A]

Oh, interesting. Let's listen again with a critical ear.

[C]

We know what ICE has done in other states, and we know American citizens lost their lives. And I refuse to let that happen in New Jersey.

[A]

Yeah, that's. That's a good observation. Maybe the same law school.

[C]

The escalation in protests comes after 300 migrants went on a hunger and labor strike inside the detention center due to poor living conditions, including reports of detainees being burned by scalding hot showers and maggot infested food.

[A]

Here's what I don't understand. They want a hunger and labor strike. Are they in the. Do they have to work in the detention center? Were they making Ikea food? Furniture,

[B]

maybe? License plates?

[C]

For days, ICE has refused most of our requests, raising serious questions about what it's trying to hide from public view. Yesterday, the New Jersey Department of Health sought to inspect the site, but it was denied full access as well.

[A]

I have a court order here that allows me to come in. Here come the New York representative. Come in and make a big scene out of stuff. These are people aren't even representing New Jersey.

[C]

Wednesday, a group of US Lawmakers went to Delaney hall to see the conditions for themselves and hear from detainees.

[A]

It's MAGA infested. I tell you. The women told us that they were being mistreated. Mistreated. And then women there are under attack. Oh, then they're under attack. It's a quick pivot. And then gave us a list of the masks. This facility, this detention center must shut down.

[C]

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen denies the allegations of unfit conditions at Delaney hall, but said, quote, it isn't a Holiday Inn.

[A]

Holiday Inns suck, too. Yeah. Now it's a program. It's no different than everything else. It's all about the middle terms. All about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's all that it is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But at least. At least we have Jill Biden on our team now. That's cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Making the podcasters cuss. It's amazing. It's amazing.

[B]

Making podcasters cuss. Yeah.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

All right, I've got a couple other little things. How about that little. Let's finish something light.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Again, of course, a homeschooled Indie is the spelling bee champ.

[A]

Ah, yeah, this is good. Nearly 300 spellers competing at this week's Scripps National Spelling Bee. After nine exciting rounds, judges declaring a tie, prompting a dramatic spell off. A lightning round. 90 seconds to spell as many words as possible. Kawathai c y w y d d

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a u tlachtley tlachtli mendoqua. M a d o q u a.

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Rishi arias r e t I a r I u s. Then the anxious wait for the winner to be announced. The spell off results are in. Shrey, during the spell off you correctly spelled a total of 30. You correctly spelled a total of 25 words and that means that Shrey, you are the Tuka. 14 year old Shrey Parikh, an 8th grader from Rancho Cucamonga, California, declared champion correctly spelling 32 words in the final round. A new record. That's great. There was one of those videos going around like UCLA students who cancel spell which. Which is funny enough actually I have it here.

[B]

My favorite stuff.

[A]

It was, it was quite funny because it was an ad. But you know, that's not the way it's presented on X because as we know on X everything is fake and gay. So here it is. Ucla.

[B]

Hold on.

[A]

Ucla.

[B]

By the way, UCLA people could never spell.

[A]

Well, there's that. So UCLA couldn't. Students struggle with basic reading the sentences. The beneficiary tried to embellish the extortion scheme. Here it is. The Ben. Ben. Fight. Carry tried to ambush.

[B]

Ambush.

[A]

The ex. Extortion. Extortion scheme. What does that mean?

[B]

I don't even know.

[A]

Been a. I can't say that. Try to like English. The extortion scheme.

[B]

What does that mean?

[A]

I. I don't. Yeah, so it's actually a part of a. A commercial for uni shack off campus housing. But people post that as. Look at these idiots. In California you can't trust anything.

[B]

What are you gonna do? You can't trust they're idiots in California

[A]

you can't trust anything anywhere. However, you can trust the value for value system. Now if John and I can trust it, today is a different story. But you can trust that your no agenda show always delivers you value without any commercials, without any corporate interests or anything like in fact we to our detriment speak our mind continually. And we've done this for 18 years. We've been through the cycle. We know how it works. But we are always proud to say that we thank you for your courage. The man who put the C and Charles in charge. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.

[B]

Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. Also in the morning, all ships to sea. Boots and the ground, feet in the air. Subs and the 100 dames and knights

[A]

out there in the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Let me count you. There we go. That's pretty good. 17:28 Peak trollage. Listening to us live on noagendastream.com and in the modern podcast apps, which is. The only app you want to use is from podcast apps.com. you know, there was, there was this whole group who came out of secret hiding. They, they've been meeting in secret and they call themselves Apparent amp.

[B]

Ant Amp Amp A N T A

[A]

M P, Alpha, Mike, Papa amp.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yes. And AMP stands for alliance for measurement in podcasting.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

And. And they, and so they had a secret off site which they called get ready for the AMP Accords.

[B]

Oh, brother.

[A]

Yeah. And they have a website, ampacords.com a billion doll sitting on the sidelines. Which is why leading platforms, advertisers, publishers and creators have come together to create the first podcasting measurement framework. So I'll skip right to the, the point of this. The, you know, podcast measurement sucks is based on downloads, is no good. And so these guys want that YouTube money. They want to get the YouTube money because YouTube is calling their videos podcast podcasts. So they're trying to redefine what a podcast. They're doing it all wrong. Doing it all wrong. And it's Spotify, Sirius XM, you know, DraftKings, BetterHelp, there's the advertisers, Libsyn, Podscribe, and UTA, the UTA Creators Union. They're doing it all wrong. And this is what I've told. They said if you want to have the same type of measurement as YouTube to get your YouTube money, you've got to cut the podcast apps in on the deal. And I don't understand why people have such trouble seeing this. Every media always puts the. The distributor in the deal. Television, radio, always, always Newspapers, podcast, everybody not in the deal. The podcast apps know exactly who heard the commercial. They know exactly how many people skipped. They know they have all. They have what they call first party data. If you cut the podcast apps in on the deal, you're going to be golden. You'll win everything. You'll win all the YouTube money. I don't know if they'll listen to me.

[B]

Well, let me think.

[A]

And by the way, I wasn't.

[B]

You're right. They Won't listen to you.

[A]

I wasn't invited to the off site either, which is, as you know. Why would you be baffling? Always baffling.

[B]

You don't know jazz.

[A]

I don't know what I'm talking about. Get a modern podcast app. Not only will you be notified when we go live, many of the no Agenda Nation podcast podcasts go live. And then not just us. Lots of podcasters are now starting to do this, going live. And you'll then be notified and you can listen to it live in your podcast app. But probably More important, within 90 seconds of publishing the podcast, you will be notified that it's in your podcast app. Ready to enjoy. Just ready to enjoy. Don't mess around with those legacy apps. Now, I mentioned value for value. This is what we've been living by for 18 years. It's a roller coaster ride. It's up, it's down, down. When it's up, we're happy. When it's down, we're not happy. Today is not the happiest of days. And please go on X and tell me the reason why is because I'm not critical of Trump. And John.

[B]

And John, you're not hating on the Jews, and that's the main reason.

[A]

And John is no longer critical after his open heart surgery he's had.

[B]

I'm too nice a guy.

[A]

Too much love. Yeah, no, we're are. And people like you've changed. You're a Christian. Yeah, I've definitely changed, but I don't think I've changed in my criticisms. It's just people don't like it when you don't criticize someone. Then you have to criticize everybody. Everybody. I criticize you and them.

[B]

Except Candace Owens.

[A]

She's the one that's taken our audience. People are being hypnotized by Candace Owens.

[B]

Yeah. NLP never hurt.

[A]

And Tim Dillon. Who? Tim Dillon. You don't know anything. You're watching. You're watching those dumb chicks on that podcast.

[B]

The dumb chicks.

[A]

Oh, now there's my. This is what I've been waiting for. Finally. Finally I have my opening for the show. Perfect. Thank you. Value for value comes in many different ways. We love when people support us. We got some great boots on the ground today. Perfect example. Thank you for helping us with clips. Thank you. Clip collector Steve Jones. He may have done your three by three. I don't know if he did, but Steve is very good at stuff like that. We appreciate it. People giving us encouragement, even some of the negative stuff can sometimes be encouraging. Like oh, I'm going to deliver. Delete this now. I'm encouraged. Thank you. Oh, I'm going to block that guy. I'm encouraged. If you have nine followers and you've changed your screen name five times since 2019, you're getting blocked because you're a bot or you're an npc. And the other way that people can support us with their time, talents and treasures by creating artwork. It does work with prompting. Some people do actual work still with Photoshop, which is appreciated, and some just really, really don't do a lot of work at all. But then still will win. And that example is Darren O', Neill, who brought us the artwork for episode 1872, which aptly was titled Lunar Economy. We saw the lunar economy blow up on the launch pad. And once again, the no Agenda show predictions are on par. You said it. You said it's going to blow up. It's not going to happen. It'll be delayed. And literally two days later, something blows up and the moonshot is delayed. But why? Listen to us. So Darren made the cars for podcasters, which was cute. It was cute.

[B]

It was very cute.

[A]

It's a different AI model. I had not seen the crayon model yet. Have we seen this a lot? This particular.

[B]

I think we may have seen it once or twice, possibly. But this is well done. I mean, Darren is the master at this.

[A]

Darren is quite the master at this.

[B]

I don't know how. You know, it's amazing in some situations. Like what? Get that to work.

[A]

He's very good at it. Lots of people prompting away.

[B]

Oh, I did enjoy that. It doesn't have our names on it. At least that I can see. Which is the no Agenda. Over next to Darren's piece, there's a Waffle House done in the style of no Agenda. I kind of thought that was a cute piece. And I like the kids sucking on the moon.

[A]

He. Helium.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, the moon helium.

[A]

I think we. I think we debated between moon helium cars for podcasters. And I think, oh, you like the moon base by Darren. That's what you like. You like the no Agenda moon base.

[B]

I like the helium one. And the. And the cars. I think I may have been the one that pushed the Cars one.

[A]

I wanted the Rumble Waffle. And you said that's racist by Scaramanga.

[B]

Yeah, it was racist.

[A]

It's not racist. I said, who is fighting at these teen takeovers?

[B]

Yeah, but it doesn't say takeover. Just says rumble waffle as though it was a Waffle House with a fight. Going on inside.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Not to maintain takeovers at Waffle House. You'd get your ass kicked. Ever been to one of those places?

[A]

Yeah, I've not been to an awful house in a long time.

[B]

Well, the Waffle Waffle House has got a. Which is. Is good. I would recommend going there. But there's a lot of rough customers in there.

[A]

Rough customers. And they. I'd say a honorary ment to nessworks who once again tried to do something non AI didn't quite make it. He has this new style with kind of a line and you know, you know what style would you is algo tricks. What style would you call that?

[B]

Because it's minimalist.

[A]

Minimalist. Yeah. Didn't quite cut it. But it's. We. We appreciate the fact that people do this at all. It gives us good feedback to know what you liked and what struck a chord during the podcast. That's. That's also so that's one. Another good reason for doing some artwork. It gives us some feedback in an interesting way. You can upload [e-mail] and we appreciate what everybody does. And thank you very much, Darren o'. Neill. It keeps him up in the standings. Now we will go to the treasure portion of our time. Talent and treasure. And we have one executive producer. And what do we have in total here? 7 Associate Executive Producers of a lot of people. We have 1800 people listening. Not everybody's supporting us.

[B]

Not today.

[A]

Not today. But we will thank Sir Eric from Opelika, Alabama.

[B]

I think it's Opelika, isn't it?

[A]

Is it Opelika? Opelika. Opelika. Our town names, our city names are pretty atrocious.

[B]

Yeah, no, we botch them constantly. But I think it is Opelika.

[A]

But he does come in with our favorite executive producer number. $333.33. And as a reminder, if you are fortunate enough to support us with $200 or more, you get an associate executive producership. $300 or more executive producer credit which is Hollywood level. You can use anywhere. Hollywood credits are recognized, including IMDb.com and we are guaranteed to read your note. We thank everybody $50 and above because we're very grateful and Sir Eric says it PM Citizen John and Citizen Adam. Here are some V for V. Can I please get some good sumo and no injury karma for me and everyone competing in the third annual Sakura cup next weekend. Whoa. Do we have a producer who's a sumo wrestler?

[B]

I have no idea. Well, and I don't Know what the Sakura cup is?

[A]

I don't. I don't either, but send pictures. We got to see your fat butt.

[C]

You've got karma.

[A]

If we have a no agenda. This is an advertising opportunity. Can you put stickers or embroidery on the sumo thong?

[B]

No, you can't put anything on it. The best you could do is have a tattoo, and I don't think they like that.

[A]

What? The Sumo Association?

[B]

I've watched sumo for probably 40 years and I've never seen a tattoo on a sumo wrestler.

[A]

You have not been keeping us up to speed on the most recent sumo development developments. I know, Opelika, you're right. Thank you, sir. By his Grace.

[B]

Ryan Wick Wickenhagen in Townsend, Georgia. 275. Dear John and Adam, I decided to make my contribution quarterly as opposed to my random here and there donations, because I'm coming more and more to the conclusion. Conclusion. That your show might be one of the few places left where the middle still exists. You call things for what they are, regardless of which side it comes from. And that is greatly appreciated and sorely needed.

[A]

How come this guy. This guy's on post? On my. On my Twitter timeline, I get nothing but the opposite. No agenda. Sounds like you have an agenda. Jew agenda. His real agenda. Agenda. Yeah, that's what I get.

[B]

You guys have built the most important component of any civilization. Community. You've allowed there to be a middle. I have phlegm.

[A]

You okay? You want me to take over? Do you need me to jump in?

[B]

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[A]

I'm gonna mute you while you do that. I'll continue while John is. I'll just wait here for a second and. Are you done, component? No, I'm good. I muted you. I muted you. I didn't want the phlegm to come through. Go ahead.

[B]

No, I got. I. I muted myself. Cleared my throat.

[A]

Good.

[B]

You've allowed there to be a middle. And if there's unable to look to the left or the right to make a choice, then we have no choice. And if we have no choice, we have no freedom. If we have no choice, we have no freedom. So we go in the middle. The no Agenda show might be the only thing left that can save the Republic. I'm grateful for you both. I'm writing my congressman to demand we have Adam and John's face on the $250bill instead of of Trump.

[A]

That means we have to be dead.

[B]

Yeah, we'll put it off. Thank you, literally, for your courage and for your attention to this matter.

[A]

You're welcome. Thank you. That's a very encouraging note. Thank you for blessing us with that. Nathan Sweem, I think is a new donor. I don't. I don't recall a Nathan Sweem from Central Point, Oregon. $263.22. Nathan does not have a note. So Nathan. Nathan, send it to us. If you want us to do a make good on that. In the meantime, you'll receive a double up Karma.

[C]

You've got double up Karma.

[B]

Mansoor rod in Alpharetta, Georgia. 257.94 ITM and Happy Birthday America.

[A]

Yeah, I know what he means. Zadok Brown. Pukalani. Pukalani. Hawaii257. 94 One of the few producers left allowed to listen to the show in Hawaii. And no note. But that does mean a not another double up. Karma.

[C]

You've got karma.

[B]

Jack Schofield in Yankee. Yeah, Yankee town, Florida. Really? There's a Yankee town in Florida? 250 short comment. So John does not bust my balls. This gets me to night status. To join to join day. Dame Susie Boot

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Scooter.

[B]

Is that right? Susie Boot Scooter of the Nature Coast.

[A]

It's Dame Dame Susie Boot Scooter of the Nature Coast.

[B]

Boot Scooter.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Wow. What is okay of the Nature coast. And to celebrate 54 years of wedded.

[A]

Holy moly. 54 years and they never have a fight. Very nice.

[B]

Call me sir Jacket.

[A]

Yes. He will be knighted shortly. Oh, there's Leanne Webb, Spouse and better half of Steve Webb OG God caster. She's in Riverside, California. 233. 77. These are associate executive producers ITM, Adam and John. Sorry it's been so long, California. She says go vote. This Tuesday is election day for true change. The only sane choice for governor is Riverside County Sheriff Chad Biancho. Do you know of Chad Bianco?

[B]

Yeah. He's in fourth. He's in fourth.

[A]

The other Republican in quotes is being propped up by Democrats who know they can't beat Bianco in November. Living in Riverside, Steven, I know he is the real deal. A man of integrity who loves the Lord. During COVID Sheriff Bianco fought to keep California open. Refused to enforce mask mandates and refused to close churches. Don't listen to the fake polls like the one John just mentioned. Turnout is predicted to be low, making your vote matter even more. If we all show up for Chad, we make the vote too big to rig. Help us fight the evil running this state. Blessings to you both Gitmo nation and California. We really need God and Chad Bianco right now. Thank you for your courage, says Leanne Webb. Thank you, Dame Leanne. Good to you see hear from you.

[B]

Just ended up clicking away here. And there we go. Linda. Oh, is this Linda? Am I on Linda?

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You're on, Linda.

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Linda Lou Patkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. Jobs, karma. Your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't. For a resume that gets Results, go to ImageMakersInc.com Linda helps professionals and executives turn their experiences into a clear story of leadership, results and impact. That's Imagemakers income with a K. And Linda Lou, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

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$200 jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs you've got.

[A]

And we still have a number of people to thank. $50 and above. Those were, of course, our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1873. Congrats and enjoy the credits.

[B]

Our formula is this. This.

[A]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave.

[B]

Shut up, slave.

[A]

And coming in with $85.35. And we're appreciative of that. John Hoibour in Bristol, Tennessee. That's that is Dutch for hay farmer. Just letting you know, as in H A Y hay farmer. Dakota Walker, Boise, Idaho, the first to come in with a boob donation. $80.08. I sent Adam an email. If you could please read and potentially ask for help on. Oh, yes, I will read this for a second, but have his note here. Where is he here? Yes, sir Dakota. We break for nights. Um, he is actually soon to be night, sir. Dakota just moved his family from Idaho to Maine and he is shocked by Maine's elimination of all childhood vaccine exemptions outside of medical so you can no longer get it based on religious exemptions. He's very upset because his kids now can't go to school unless they get all of these shots. And he would. He needs help finding an accommodating doctor to I think that's code medical professional or organization who will sign for a real medical contradiction. And you can contact him at walker6607mail.com walker6607mail.com Our next boob donation and we have three of them today is Kevin McLaughlin. We know him from Concord, North Carolina. He is the Archduke of Luna and lover of America and boobs. And the $80.08 is there. God bless America and melon. He says Xobin. Xob. Xobim. Zobim. Zobim. In Leiden in the Netherlands, our final of the three boobs. Greetings from Leiden. Right under the European heat dome. Yeah, the heat dome is bad. Christina, you know, she is with child. She should be delivering the child in about six weeks. And it's very, very hot for her right now. It's very. It's uncomfortable, pleasant under the heat dome, which, of course is due to climate change. Dame Rita, $68.33. She always supports us, every single show. Thank you so much, Dame Rita. She's in Sparks, Nevada. Cheers to the best podcast in the universe. Peter Karnowski. $61, parts unknown. Sir Dan, the quiet man in Canton, Georgia. Small boobs. $60.06, 606. He's going through a major home remodel, and I think I'd go nuts if I didn't have the note agenda show. That's why we're here, brother Lest Szerkowski, also with the small boobs, from Kingman, Arizona, Scott Auld in Coral Springs, Florida. And he wants to use this $55. He wants to use this donation to de Douche, his friend, Hundred Dollar Eric.

[B]

You've been de douched.

[A]

Eric brought him to no Agenda when Scott Adams died and when Scott was Adrian Drift. And he says thank you both for your courage. Oh, you're safe here. Just hang on to the no Agenda life raft. Joshua Hoppel in Nanjamoy, Nanjamoy, Maryland. Never heard of this. How do you pronounce it?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Why not?

[B]

Robot.

[A]

I'm not gonna. Maryland. 51.50. De Douching, if time allows. Of course

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you've been de douched.

[A]

She is the irrelevant artist. There's Dame Rita again.

[B]

I think. I think one of these Dame Rita donations is a missing one from a previous show that bounced up here.

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Well, we're gonna thank her again. $50.33. ITM. Gentlemen, thank you for the twice weekly dose of sanity and laughter. Thank you. We always love seeing your name on the list, Dame Rita. Here are the 50s, Terrence Clark, Jacksonville Beach, Florida. Nathan in Nederland, Texas. Joshua Johnson, Omaha, Nebraska. Tony Lang from Castle Pines, Colorado. And winding out the list of $50, Sir Michael from Snohomish, Washington. And the rest are under 50. We do not mention those for reasons of anonymity. 49.99s. We see you. The 33 33s, the 21 15s, the 11 11s, the 12 12s, the 4s, the 3s, all the way down to the ones. Every single amount is appreciated. That's how value for value value works. Whatever you get out of the show. Send the value back to us. We can't determine what's valuable to you. Only you can do that. As long as you do it, that's all we ask for. In fact, you can even set up a recurring donation. Go to noagendadonations.com any amount, any frequency is appreciated. Noagendadonations.com I have no birthdays today. Which.

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Yeah, it's a real. That's short every which way.

[A]

It's very odd.

[B]

Yeah, I thought so.

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I mean, that doesn't happen that much. No, you can get on the birthday list by sending your birthday note to notesoagendashow.com so what we do have is we have one night to bring up to the round table. So if I got my blade.

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Luckily there.

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Oh, nice. That's your. That's your fancy one. Very nice, Jack Schofield. Hop on up, sir. Well deserved. And of course, this is an aggregate of $1,000 over time. You keep your own accounting, we trust you. It is time for me to officially pronounce the Kate you as sir jacket. And with that we say, welcome to the no Agenda roundtable of the knights and the dames. And of course for you. We have hookers and blow, rent boys and Chardonnay. We have harlots and how doll redheads and rye's beers and blunts, Cowgirls and coffin varnish. A great combo Reuben Ess, women in rose, geisha and sake, Vodka, vanilla bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider nestworts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablum. And as always at the round table, we have the mutton and the mead just for you. And you could head over to noagendarings.com take a look at those handsome no agenda knight and dame rings. They are signet rings, so they are accompanied in your package when you receive them after sending us your official size and and address. Some wax to seal your important correspondence with. Just like all those fancy old school period piece series that we watch on pbs. And a certificate of authenticity. And welcome once again to the no Agenda roundtable. Reminder, we still have a few of those Red Knights Order of the Heart pins available for those who want to get in on this offer because that is going away very soon because clearly John is healed. He's as grumpy as ever.

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No agenda meetup.

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That's right. No agenda meetups. First thing we do here is play the meetup reports we've received. And this is from the 3BR Distillery in Keyport, New Jersey. This is Sir R. Daniels coming at you from the 3BR Distillery in Keyport, New Jersey. Where my pronouns are Viscount and Commodore and we drink and know things. I need a drink edition.

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This is Jersey James calling from 3BR.

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I really screwed up the organization for this one by the way.

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In the morning.

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This is Brian.

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My first time joining this crew. It was a real pleasure. I will be back. It's fun. Go to your meetups in the morning.

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This is MK Ultramark hanging out at the Central Jersey meetup. Loving life right now in the morning. This is Jill.

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We're really thirsty because the data center keeps stealing our water.

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Thank you for your courage. John and Adam in the morning. All right. Thank you for the report. We love getting those. Go to noagendameatups.com to become part of no Agenda Nation is very simple. It doesn't cost any money. You just look up a meetup near you and go visit one. It's super cool. Like today if you're in Raleigh, North Carolina you can go to the Northern Wake June Fun Times Meetup 6:00 Clock today at Saints and Scholars in Raleigh. The rest of this month on the 6th it is the Ukrainian meetup. We are excited to get a meet up report from them. It'll be in Bila Surkva, Kiev Oblast. It's a very disputed area. Lots of farms over there. So we're looking forward to see how many Ukrainian meetup attendees. Boise, Idaho on the 13th along with Franklin, Tennessee, Indianapolis, Indiana, the big one on June 14th, Charlotte, North Carolina on the 18th and Rotterdam, the Netherlands on June 26th. We have several in July, August, September going through to October, almost through to Christmas time. It's amazing how many people love the meetups. Go hang out together. You have one thing in common. You are children from other lands and you all listen to the show. NoaGenDameetups.com this is where you get connection that always brings you protection. Every single one of the people you meet at the meetup meetup will be your first responders in an emergency. Noagendameetups.com if you can't find Wooden E [e-mail] start one yourself. It's easy and always guaranteed a pate. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you won't be triggered on Hell's Lame. You wanna be where everybody feels.

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It's like a party.

[A]

We have end of show mixes on the way. Appreciate the prompting. People are doing this, they're getting good and it's good. And I think the reason why they're good is because they're not using the typical voice that we've heard a million times. They also have very targeted no Agenda lyrics. Very subliminal. Every single end of show mix tells you to donate. It's very subliminal. So make sure you listen to it and listen to it loud. And John, tip of the day is coming up. But first we have a couple of isos. This is a tradition on the show where we select something that we will use at the very end during the mic drop. I'll go first. I have two Comedic gold. Comedic gold. And there's this one. They were right about everything. I kind of like that one myself. What do you have?

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Do you still have celebrities Now? I have politicians. But I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to put these off to the next show and get giving you. They're right about everything.

[A]

Oh, wow. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Hey, but don't worry, there's more. John with tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.

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Yeah, yeah, I. Yeah, yeah, I know. I caught me off guard.

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Yeah.

[B]

Well, okay, we're gonna go. Tip of the day is a. You know how garbage bags are. These garbage bags, if you're doing anything that's like clearing weeds or brush or you're. Or clearing up your house, they tear, I think pokes through them.

[A]

Yeah, they're not very sturdy. They're made of cheap plastic.

[B]

Well, they're made of good plastic, but they're not very sturdy.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So you want this product. And these are called Dura Durasac Woven contractor cleanup bags. And they're woven.

[A]

I just like.

[B]

And the things don't poke through them.

[A]

I like Durasack. I just like Durasack.

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It's just Durasack. And Durasack makes. You have to be careful. They make a lot of stuff that you can get one bag for 19 bucks. It says like I don't know what it's for. But these are. This is the box that you buy for 19 bucks of 16 is a 16 pack. Durasac holds up to 110 pounds of stuff.

[A]

Of stuff.

[B]

Yeah. And without having issues in it. And you can reuse them. You can dump the stuff out and you reuse them again. They're heavy duty contractor cleanup bags.

[A]

Now how is that spelled? D U R a S a C Or do they put a K at the end?

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D U R a S a C K Bags dot com.

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Durasackbags dot com. Yeah, your sack will be durable.

[B]

Now I want to tell people to get on our Instagram.

[A]

Oh, hey, hey. Good news, good news. One of our producers, I don't know who, but I love you and I thank you. I complained about being kicked off of Instagram, and I just. On a whim, I'm like, let me see if I get. And I logged in and was perfect. I've been restored.

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Yeah, that's what our people do.

[A]

Our people are the awesome people. Yeah.

[B]

So Instagram no Agenda Podcast, official site. We got approved being the official.

[A]

Now what do I do? Do I. Can I tag you or. How does Instagram work now that I'm back on?

[B]

Oh, how does Instagram work? You just follow us.

[A]

Oh, okay. And that's enough. I just follow the Insta. The no Agenda.

[B]

Yeah, you put. You click on follow.

[A]

Hold on, let me. Let me do it. Let me do it right now. Hold on a second. So I go to Instagram. I don't do ins. I've never done Instagram.

[B]

Okay, you have pictures, a ton of pictures on Instagram that you put up there.

[A]

No, that's not a ton. It's only my daughter for her birthday and Father's Day. Okay. And no Agenda. What is it called?

[B]

No Agenda Official No Agenda Podcast.

[A]

Look at this. There's a no Agenda show. There's a no Agenda show. Who runs no Agenda Agenda show.

[B]

No, no, we can't find out.

[A]

No Agenda podcast. Follow back. Oh, you're already following me. Okay, how many followers do you guys have? 780. We're official.

[B]

We need.

[A]

What do we need? A thousand.

[B]

We need a thousand. But we need 5,000 if people want to see photos of my studio.

[A]

What? What?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

You're gonna show. I've. Okay. I've only been to your house once in on the entire two decades we've known each other, and I was forbidden from seeing your studio. You would not let me go upstairs. And now as a cheap. As a cheap gimmick, you're gonna post. Just a cheap gimmick is what it is. You're gonna post gimmick. You're gonna post pictures of your studio on Instagram. Instagram.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Darren says that you asked him to create AI images of his studio. Is that true? No.

[B]

That's bull crap. He's lies. He lies.

[A]

Everybody go get your durasack and go to noagendafund.com for more tips. And sometimes.

[B]

Adam, created by Dana Bernetti.

[A]

Ah, the fact that Darren O' Neal, who started 11 this morning and is still listening, just makes me feel warm all over.

[B]

It's good.

[A]

It does. Hey, coming up next on the no agenda stream, a friend of the show, Nick the rat. And this will be from his nicktheratradio.com the Baltic bedlam. And a reminder that on Thursday I need to be. I need to tell you guys about Texas Slim. He's having some some stuff going on. He needs lots of prayer. But I will be bringing you some updates on him and the beef initiative. End of show mixes today come from just Baker and mvp and they are dynamite. And we will see you on Thursday. Make sure you have a good weekend, what's left of it. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country, Fredericksburg, Texas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

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And from refinery row, I'm John C. Dvorak.

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