1874 - "Kennel Index"

Summary

No Agenda Show – Episode 1874: “Kennel Index”

Date: June 4, 2026
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Theme: Deconstructing Media, Politics, and Cultural Narratives with Trademark No Agenda Cynicism and Humor

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Adam and John take on recent political developments—including the California governor's race, the dynamics of Jewish money in politics, the ever-present Israel influence in U.S. elections and government, media "circle jerks," and a bevy of hot-button cultural topics (transgender politics, tech hype, and more). The show moves through political intrigue, failed media narratives, new AI/tech industry trends, classic No Agenda deconstructions, and the lighter side of donations and community shenanigans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. California Politics & “Money Buys Elections” Narrative

• Gubernatorial Race:
  • John notes “Tom Steyer is going to be governor,” and Adam jokes about bets around Los Angeles mayoral candidates, highlighting suspicions about rigged elections in California.
  • Debunking the “Jewish money always wins” myth—Steyer (not Jewish) spent $200M+ and lost, seemingly debunking a longstanding media trope.
  • Quote:
    • “This makes no sense. We’ve been told over and over again whenever it’s Jewish money, it always wins…” — Adam (02:22)
    • “He put the most money in and came in third.” — John (02:32)

2. Media & Podcast “Circle Jerks”

• The hosts lampoon the trend of elite podcasters “going on each other’s shows,” arguing that it's an echo chamber that doesn't serve listeners.
  • Quote:
    • “This podcast circle jerk is kind of getting annoying.” — Adam (03:10)
  • The discussion segues into how media personalities lament influence (e.g., Israel, big money)—yet themselves become part of closed loops.

3. Israel’s Influence in U.S. Policy and Elections (04:00–16:36)

• Adam & John deconstruct claims that Israel (or foreign actors) “buy” elections via lobbying or campaign funding, citing conversations on other major podcasts (Shawn Ryan, Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson).
• They highlight cynicism and resignation in popular discourse—“Do we even vote anymore? What’s the point?”
  • Quote:
    • “How do we get out from under this?” — Adam (04:56)
• Adam satirically suggests that these black-pilled attitudes are driven more by the desire for clicks and engagement than genuine depression.
• Segment: Trump-Netanyahu call details (09:34–16:36)
  • Dissection of Axios’ leaked story about a heated Trump-Netanyahu call.
  • Questioning the authenticity, motives, and media usage of the leak.
  • Trump’s own comments: distancing from responsibility and calling critics “dumb ocrats.”

4. Congressional Theater: Iran War, Thomas Massie, and Political Grandstanding (20:11–24:47)

• The latest House vote to curtail President Trump’s war powers regarding Iran discussed as mostly meaningless “grandstanding,” rather than substantive constitutional resistance.
  • Quote:
    • “This is just grandstanding.” — Adam (21:53)
• Motives of Congressman Thomas Massie analyzed. Is he a constitutionalist or just retaliating after a Trump-backed primary defeat?

5. Israel Dividing Podcasting & Social Media Community (23:55–24:47)

• Listeners calling out schisms in No Agenda Social over Israel and Jewish issues.
• Adam rebuffs this as a “fractioning,” not a real “split.”

6. Iran War & Congressional Hearings (25:03–38:29)

• Deep-dive into Iran situation: U.S. claims of military victories, blockades, and leveraged negotiations.
• Senate hearings: Highlights Rubio’s “deadpan wiseass” style and General Bessant’s rebuke of Treasury over Epstein records coverup.
• Memorable quote:
  • “There is no Iranian navy. … There’s a bunch of Boston Whalers with machine guns on them.” — Military Official (32:14)

7. Detransition, Puberty Blockers, & Trans Policy Hearings (38:33–52:29)

• Adam & John critically analyze Senate hearings with de-transitioners (esp. Chloe Cole’s testimony), debate on government’s role, and question the origins of the “transition or suicide” narrative.
• Contrast between U.S. and other countries (e.g., UK, Australia) on gender medicine.
• Adam highlights how progressive logic on sex and gender anti-discrimination has become “contradictory.”
  • Quote:
    • “It makes no sense.” — Adam, on gender policy (48:45)

8. Trump “Misogyny” & Kaitlan Collins “Smile” Controversy (55:39–67:45)

• Dissects “smile more” comment at CNN’s Kaitlan Collins, media overreaction, and claims of misogyny.
• John provides personal experience: “You need to smile more,” happens to men in media too.
• The hosts lampoon CNN’s and other pundits’ obsession and speculate about why this narrative is resurfacing.
  • Notable Interlude:
    • “If I was still president, No Agenda would be required listening.” — Biden ISO (167:26)

9. Trump’s $1.8 Billion "Weaponization Fund" Scrapped (68:09–74:16)

• News and analysis around the collapse of a proposed compensation fund for alleged Biden administration “victims,” including January 6 rioters. Adam & John joke about the political optics and real beneficiaries.

10. Artificial Intelligence & Tech Industry Hype (75:34–91:23)

• Detailed breakdown of Nvidia CEO announcements: “AI moving from the data center to the desktop,” “No meter anxiety.”
• Satirical look at AI business models, the “phone is an idea, not a product,” and home AI hype.
• Market skepticism from guests like Ed Zitron (Bloomberg) and David Sacks (All-In Pod): Is AI a bubble without a measurable ROI?
  • Quote:
    • “You can’t measure the costs, can’t measure the ROI… What do you call that?” — Zitron (85:34)
• Jevons Paradox: “As the cost of a resource goes down, demand increases and new use cases emerge.”

11. War Updates: Russia/Ukraine (92:13–96:19)

• Ukraine strikes St. Petersburg, escalating the Russia conflict.
• Discussion of NATO, EU response, and speculation about sacrificing Zelensky.

12. Community, Donations, and Cultural Oddities (96:40–132:32)

• “Kennel Index” theory: No Agenda donation slumps correlate with peak dog kennel occupancy (vacation season).
• Light-hearted banter on peptides, testosterone, McCullough Protocol, and bizarre medical anecdotes (“Rub on your balls”).
• Listeners’ questions, donor shoutouts, and the ongoing value-for-value funding model.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On campaign money and outcomes:
  “He put the most money in and came in third.” — John C. Dvorak [02:32]

• On media echo chambers:
  “This podcast circle jerk is kind of getting annoying.” — Adam Curry [03:10]

• On Israel and U.S. influence:
  “I mean, they’re buying our elections…” — Adam Curry [04:55]

• On fruitless grandstanding:
  “This is just grandstanding.” — Adam Curry [21:53]

• On gender law logic:
  “It makes no sense.” — Adam Curry [48:45]

• Classic banter:
  “If I was still president, No Agenda would be required listening.” — Biden ISO [167:26]

• On trending narratives:
  “It’s just old-fashioned brainwashing.” — John C. Dvorak [52:26]

• On the AI hype economy:
  “You can’t measure the costs, can’t measure the return on investment. What do you call that?” — Adam Curry [85:34]

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Important Timestamps

• 00:23 – Start of political betting, California governor/mayor talk
• 02:21 – Myth of “big money always winning” debunked
• 03:10 – “Podcast circle jerk” and media echo chamber riffing
• 09:34–16:36 – Deep-dive: Trump-Netanyahu call, Axios leaks, shifting political blame
• 20:11–24:47 – Iran War Powers vote; Thomas Massie’s “principles” and political revenge
• 38:33–52:29 – Senate hearing: detransitioners, puberty blockers, and trans issues
• 55:39–67:45 – Trump vs. Kaitlan Collins, media “smile” obsession, misogyny narrative
• 68:09–74:16 – $1.8B Trump “weaponization” fund collapse
• 75:34–91:23 – Nvidia CEO’s AI declarations, tech skepticism, Jevons paradox discussion
• 92:13–96:19 – Ukraine strikes St. Petersburg; escalation in Russia-Ukraine
• 132:32–End – “Kennel Index,” community maintenance, donor announcements, and running gags

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Tone and Style

The show is delivered in the familiar No Agenda blend of sardonic wit, sharp skepticism, and rapid-fire cross-referencing of contemporary media narratives. Adam and John weave together punchy asides, classic troll-room driven banter, and genuine industry-insider critique with open lines to their broad and engaged producer community.

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For First-Time Listeners

You’ll emerge with a critical look at how U.S. politics, media, and tech intersect—and why skepticism toward narrative, data, and “influencer consensus” is always warranted. The duo’s relentless questioning, satiric narratives, and open celebration of their community’s contributions make for a uniquely engaging, enlightening experience.

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Further Engagement

• Donations, shownotes, artwork: noagendadonations.com
• Community meetups: noagendameetups.com
• Clips, jingles, and ISOs: Highlighted throughout the show for humor and thematic resonance (e.g., Biden/Obama “No Agenda” endorsement ISOs at 167:26)

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This episode is a classic No Agenda media deconstruction, blending humor, skepticism, critique, and community into one consistently unpredictable package.

Transcript

[John C. Dvorak]

You need to smile more.

[Adam Curry]

Adam Curry. Chauncey dvorak. It's Thursday, June 4, 2026. It's your award winning Kimonation Media assassination episode 1874. This is no Agenda Black Pilling BBN broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Man in California, it does look like Tom Steyer is going to be governor. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

It's crackpot and Buzz. Yeah, I don't think I won my dollar yet, but it's looking pretty good.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's your dollar about?

[Adam Curry]

The mayor of Los Angeles.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you what? What was the bet again?

[Adam Curry]

I'm glad it wasn't for $1,000.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it was a thousand dollars. I would have sent an email out and had somebody sign the document different.

[Adam Curry]

I said that Pratt would not become mayor and that it would be Karen Bass.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's what you said.

[Adam Curry]

And you said no because I said California's rigged and you said no. No, they can't rig it. They have to let them win. You had a whole theory about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I do, and I'm sticking with the theory that that's got nothing to do with Tom Steyer.

[Adam Curry]

No, I know that, but you're kind of avoiding the bet.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not avoiding the bet. I'm good. I'm good for the bet.

[Adam Curry]

We didn't talk about Steuer, Steyer, Tony, Stoney. We talked about Pratt. I want to talk. Pratt is the. Is the interesting one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not to me.

[Adam Curry]

Ah, so what is it?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not. I don't live in la. I'm telling you.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, you're like, pratt is going to take it. Pratt has the best campaign ever. He's not gonna take it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Take it easy. Who the heck would you voted for this?

[Adam Curry]

Karen, you wanna. If it's rigged, double or nothing. Want to go two? Two bucks. Double down. Want to double down, big man? Okay, two bucks. All right, so tell me about this story or.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, Steyer here's the guy. This guy is a. You know, he's a. I don't even know what he does. He's like a hedge fund guy or something. Anyway, he spent $300 million on his campaign for president, which got him nowhere. And then he drops another $200 million on his own campaign for governor and nobody likes him.

[Adam Curry]

Wait a minute.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not likable.

[Adam Curry]

This makes no sense. We've been told over and over again whenever it's Jewish money, it always wins because they have a lot of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he put the most money in and came in third.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this makes no sense.

[John C. Dvorak]

I agree. It makes no sense because based on what everybody's been telling us, you put the money in, you win.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's how it works. I don't understand this at all. This is crazy.

[John C. Dvorak]

I get it now. He's not Jewish. That's the problem.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, is that what it is? Oh, man. Sean Ryan and. And Megan Kelly, they were saying exactly this. By the way, what a great idea. Let's all go on each other's podcasts. See, we had the right idea. For 18 years, we've been going on each other's podcast. That's how you do it. No, Megan had to go on Sean Ryan's podcast, and I'm sure Sean will go on Megan's podcast. This. This podcast, Circle Jerk is kind of getting annoying.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's very annoying. So podcast Circle Jerk. There's a. That'd be a great title for the show.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know about that. So they're lamenting about this very thing that you. That California just proved is not true. And here they are talking about Thomas Massie and how Israel bought the election. So what does this all mean? I mean, I thought he was going to win. I thought for sure he was going to win, but then he didn't. And Israel bought it. They bought the election. Do we even vote anymore?

[John C. Dvorak]

What's the point?

[Adam Curry]

It's legitimately what's the point?

[Reporter/Correspondent]

It's very hard for me to argue against your cynicism.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

I think a lot of us, we

[Adam Curry]

have a duty to vote.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

But, like, why?

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Yeah, for what?

[Adam Curry]

If they're just gonna. I mean.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

I mean, ideally, a candidate will come along who will represent an antidote to the system.

[Adam Curry]

Tucker. Tucker. They should have said it. Come on, say it, Tucker.

[John C. Dvorak]

An antidote.

[Adam Curry]

It has to be the anti. They went on, man. And because this is not going to work anymore, this. Israel buying elections, I just feel stuck. I mean, they're buying our elections. It's just.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

How do we.

[Adam Curry]

How do we get out from under this?

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Why is it.

[Adam Curry]

Is it almost over? Is it going to die with the baby boomer generation? I mean, gen Z is 85% Jewish.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Israel.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

These are all the.

[Adam Curry]

What's going on.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

These are all good things. Like, I. I have nothing against Israel as a country. I don't. I don't have anything against the people, you know, but the government has definitely been taking advantage of us, and we've been allowing it, really. And sometimes I do worry, like, we shouldn't use Israel as a proxy to hide our anger at Trump.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. Here's some truth coming out.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Reporter/Correspondent]

You know, President Trump's the one who made the call.

[Adam Curry]

He made the call.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Netanyahu.

[Adam Curry]

This has been going on for a long fucking time.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

I agree, but I'm just saying, like, Netanyahu made an argument that he thought was in favor of his country.

[Adam Curry]

They go on and on about this. Here's Megan. Like, it's really, you know, realizing that Israel owns the entire US Government and the President and the treasury and the Department of Education and the EPA and the DHS and. Anything else.

[John C. Dvorak]

Department of War.

[Adam Curry]

Department of War. Sorry, I forgot that one. It's actually good news because realizing this is like getting a cancer diagnosis.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

But hold that point. Hold that thought because I do want to come back to that. All this stuff you just said is why we should feel optimistic. If you go to the doctor tomorrow and you find out you have cancer, you might feel sad, but it's actually a good day because you found out about cancer and it's better to know so you can do something about it. The reality was the same yesterday, today and tomorrow you have cancer.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, this, this is, this is what we call black pill. They are depressed, they're angry, they're mad. Now, actually, I don't believe any of that. I think they're just following the likes, the clicks and the views. Because Meghan Kelly hated Trump. Then she loved Trump. Now she hates Trump. She's a fair weather friend. She doesn't care.

[John C. Dvorak]

But Ryan, don't forget when she was NBC, she had all these trans people on and she was so. Oh, the trans is so particularly great. And then she puts her. Gets another show. I hate the trans. Make up your mind.

[Adam Curry]

But Sean, Ryan, he's really depressed. Depressed. How do we. How do we recorrect? How do we get on the right course? How do we get out from Israel's thumb?

[News Anchor/Reporter]

How do we stop this?

[Adam Curry]

How do we stop the forever wars? How do we. It just. How do we get the pulse back to where it needs to be? Nothing's on the right track. That's why I think voting for. I mean, get them in and onesies and twosies. I just don't feel like they're going to last. I feel like it needs to be a new party. But that's already been tried. Oh, yeah. So that now the. I'm telling you, they are just an inch away from saying Tucker's. Tucker's our guy. He's got to be our guy. They didn't say it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it keeps coming up in the conversation. We've got clip after clip of people, including Cenk.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Saying Tucker should be president. Well, well, that's insane.

[Adam Curry]

I'm trying to think which was it this clip? Maybe.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Answers on those questions are going to be very clear. Speaking of Chang deal breakers in the next election, no one who starts talking about their commitment to Israel has a chance in hell of getting elected. I just. They just don't.

[Adam Curry]

So don't you think Israel will just pay them to not talk about it until they win? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. You got, you got stealth candidates. Oh, man, this is so crazy. I think. Where was it she was talking about Cenk here?

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Israel had over American.

[Adam Curry]

I think this is it here.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

That's how I see this whole problem with Israel. We didn't understand this on the left or the right about how much influence Israel had over American politics. Some did. Some. Glenn Greenwald has been like setting the alarm on this forever, as have people like Anna Kasparian, but like Cenk Uyghur, but it's been a smaller group. This wasn't something that was either known.

[Adam Curry]

Cenk Uyghur, Anna Kasparian, now she's all on their side. This is, this is pretty nuts, especially when you take into account the phone call the president had with Bibi Netanyahu. Finally, I've been telling, I've been telling the president he's got to do something about this Israel hate. So this is how it played out in the, in the M5M. This literally this short of a little blurb from Pooper.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

The president also acknowledged the phone call he recently had with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu during which he reportedly called him effing crazy and asked him regarding Lebanon, quote, what the f are you doing?

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Did you speak to him in those terms?

[Interviewee/Official]

I wouldn't say angry. I was a little bit perturbed at his constantly fighting with Lebanon. You know, at some point as it may be, we got to stop this. We got to stop it.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

The prime minister was also asked about the call and the president's characterization of it.

[Commentator/Analyst]

President confirmed that he, that he said, you're effing crazy. How did you react to that? What really happened in that call?

[Adam Curry]

I told him, I'm going to pull him out of office. I'm in control of him.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm not going to get into

[Adam Curry]

details of our conversations. We've had thousands. Well, a lot. A lot of them. What's that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Thousands, really?

[Adam Curry]

I guess. And if you think this is a Crisis. You should be in some other conversations,

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

but we've always found a way.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Well, one other item on Israel and Lebanon. Shortly before airtime, the two countries announced that they have agreed to what they're calling the implementation of a ceasefire.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so maybe the call works, but Pooper can't make that conclusion. But the thing that was interesting about this is it was Axios who broke the story, and immediately everyone. Axios is bought and paid for by the Jews. You know that, right? So, like, make up your mind, please. Here's part one of the story about Axios, and there's two parts. The second part, which has not been discussed anywhere in M5M. We won't get into the precise vulgarisms in the conversation between. Oh, vulgarisms. Oh, we can't say the F word or the S word. President, United States, and the Israeli Prime Minister.

[John C. Dvorak]

But summarize them for us, Mark.

[Adam Curry]

And when this happened and why on

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Monday, Donald Trump got steamed with Prime Minister Netanyahu because Netanyahu had launched this invasion and this attack on Lebanon and southern Lebanon. It had led the Iranians to say, we're done with peace talks. And Trump got him on the horn and really lit into him, said, you're effing crazy. What the F are you doing? I'm keeping your behind out of prison.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, we can't say ass.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

And basically, you need to know when to stop. And the description that we were given of this is Donald Trump was really steamed. He subsequently came out on a New York Post podcast and said that, well, I wasn't really angry. I was perturbed. But he confirmed he indeed did say that.

[Adam Curry]

And very quickly, to remind the audience, Hezbollah is operating in Lebanon. They're a terrorist proxy of Iran. So what no one reported on is Miranda Devine. Actually, it's worth hearing the whole first part and second part of her interview with him. So this is the first part about the phone call.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Now, Axios reported that you had a phone call with Bibi Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, in which you were angry with him. You said, are you effing crazy? What are you effing doing? I helped you stay out of jail. Is that true? Did you speak to him in those terms?

[Interviewee/Official]

I don't. I wouldn't say angry. I was a little bit perturbed at his constantly fighting with Lebanon. You know, at some point, I said, maybe we got to stop this. We got to stop it. But I have a very good relationship. We've done well, done well together. He always says, we could never have done it, but everybody knows that we could have never done it without the United States. But we've, we've, I've worked very well together. I like Bibi a lot and I've worked very well with him. We had a, you know, where he, I'm a wartime president, he's a wartime prime minister, very important part of the world. And I think we've done, you know, very well. We've, we've gotten along very well together.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so fine. And then she asked a little bit about, you know, just on and on and on. There was a second part of the phone call which Axios reported on, but Miranda Divine didn't ask about and which was, I think for obvious reasons not asked about or reported everywhere else. And this is the part. There's another thing the president, in your piece with Barack Ravid said to the Israeli prime minister that strikes me as interesting. He said the world hates Israel and hates you for doing this, sort of saying that. It's not just between you and I, Prime Minister Netanyahu, you have an image problem, Right.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

And that's really important to Donald Trump, who pays attention to that sort of thing. And it also means that Trump himself,

[Adam Curry]

I mean, to verbalize it though, that way, right?

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Well, he's not only said that to Netanyahu there, he's privately said that as well. There are, I need to phrase this properly and carefully.

[Adam Curry]

Why? Just say it.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

There are people in the Trump administration who are gravely concerned that Netanyahu has been, in the words of one of them, too bloodthirsty in the way in which he's prosecuted the war in Gaza against Hamas and now against Hezbollah and that it has led to this circumstance. Now, Netanyahu's defenders, let's be clear, say that's completely unfair. He needs to do this. Otherwise they were encircled by a, quote, ring of fire.

[Adam Curry]

So I think Trump has done this in a very interesting way by, because this was clearly leaked. No one at Axios heard the call. This was purposely leaked by two people familiar with the matter. And the second part I think was critical to say it's not Israel, it's Bibi Netanyahu. You're the reason why everybody hates Israel, channeling all of that negative black pilled energy from Shawn Ryan and Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carls and everybody towards Netanyahu. And then unfortunately, Divine didn't ask about that, but then he says something very interesting about the, well, you know, clearly they tricked you into this war, right? They tricked you.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

What do you say to people who claim that Bibi Netanyahu tricked you into going into Iran.

[Interviewee/Official]

Well, they're just, you know, the enemy. They're just, you know, the Democrats. These are Democrats. These are people that don't know what they're doing. They want men playing in women's sports, and they want open borders so the world can pour into our country. And they want transgender. For everybody surgery, and they want transgender utilization of our children. No, these are just words, you know, that's all they do. That's all they're good for, is words. Like, I heard that the other day for the first time. I said, he tricked me. I mean, I'm the one that started it because, again, I don't want to bore anybody, but I started because we can't let them have a nuclear weapon.

[Adam Curry]

So do you think it can't be that the President is not aware of the podcast circle jerk circuit? He must know that Tucker and all these people are saying this, but he universally just says, oh, they're all Democrats. Or dumb ocrats is his new word. Do you think this is purposeful, or do you think he really doesn't know?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think he doesn't know.

[Adam Curry]

Really.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the reason I say that is because when I talk to people who are on the left and there's plenty of them around, and I'm in California next door, unlike you.

[Adam Curry]

That's right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Have the different perspective on that regard, and they don't know shit. They don't know anything that's going on on the other side of the fence. And I don't see why Trump would be. Although he's not a Democrat, ignoring the right, he's a right winger ignoring the left.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but. But Tucker and those guys were his team, quote, unquote.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but his. But no, I can honestly believe that he doesn't know that the circle jerk. Because we're the. We follow it closely. He's got a. He's got other things to worry about besides who's on what whose podcast. Not like Biden, who apparently, according to Jill, watched Fox News all the time. I believe you read the book.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, man. Well, I just thought that was very interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think so, too. I'd like to figure out who was the leakers. Yeah, because you can't be like. You can't if you're. Actually, I do. The nature of the Axios News operation is, I think, as follows. If somebody's leaking to you, you have to assume there's ulterior motives. And so you want to get leaks from somebody who's, like, slipping you cool information that you can write on without feeling that you've been used.

[Adam Curry]

Right, right.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the leaker can't be Rubio, for example.

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he says, how do I be a designated leaker?

[Adam Curry]

Well, if you. If you listen to what the Axios guy in that report, he says. How do I put this? Carefully? Because he was talking about the leakers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. He was trying to make sure that the leaker wasn't revealed.

[Adam Curry]

Right. And it was people who feel that Netanyahu is bloodthirsty.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Well, I can see a lot of people feeling that way.

[Adam Curry]

I think. I think we feel that way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think he is.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I just thought that was interesting. You know, they kill presidents. They killed jfk. So, you know, Trump just even saying that, you know, I kept your ass out of jail. Jail. And what the f. Are you doing? I mean, this is going to be assassinated now according to the same people. It's all dumb.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's funny, though.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, there'll be.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was having a conversation with one of my friends in Los Angeles who's.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, you have a friend in Los Angeles?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

You have a friend. Wait, stop.

[John C. Dvorak]

I do. I have a couple of friends.

[Adam Curry]

So

[John C. Dvorak]

he was like, he's got a depressed attitude typical of the Angelenos, and he's going on about how everyone's. They've all fallen for the. Candace Owens, Megan, what you're talking about, how you started it off. These people have captured a huge number of otherwise conservatives down in Southern California. He's surrounded by him.

[Adam Curry]

It's everywhere.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he's freaked out about. He's like, you know, he's of the mind. Mimi's kind of of this mind, too, that we have a civil war, a brewing.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I'm not, you know, I completely laugh at that.

[Adam Curry]

We're going to blow up each other's podcasts.

[John C. Dvorak]

What are you going to do?

[Adam Curry]

Civil War podcast. The Civil War of 2026 in America played out on the battlefield of podcasts. That's all that's happening.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the way I see it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Yeah, it is. Well, there is some stuff happening in the House which was just so pathetic. This was the House resolution, Dell, according

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

to reporters in the chamber. Those cheers that you just heard from Democrats on the Democratic side of the aisle after that result, and to be clear, it was the vast majority of people voting in favor of this war powers resolution, Democrats. This was the fourth attempt, and now the first successful attempt to vote to limit President Trump's war powers in Iran. Remember, the House has now passed it. It would be up to the Senate to pass it, to send it to President Trump's desk. There's a very good chance that he would veto this if it made it to his desk and honestly argue that the war with Iran has ended, something that his administration has already tried to argue in the past. It's worth noting that there were four Republicans who voted with all Democrats to end this Iran war include according.

[John C. Dvorak]

Say what I'm asking the reporter cuz it's coming, right? He's going to tell you exactly who the four Democrats or four Republicans are.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, he is.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Obviously to reporters in the chamber, Politico reporting that was Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick, the Republican from Pennsylvania, a swing district Republican, Congressman Tom Barrett, Congressman Warren Davidson of Ohio, someone who's been quite vocal on war powers. And also worth noting, Congressman Thomas Massie, the Republican from Kentucky who just lost his his primary to a Trump backed challenger just in the last couple weeks now clearly taking that strong step on the House floor. The vast majority of Republicans though, allowing this war to continue voting against this war powers resolution, but certainly a banner moment for critics of this ongoing war with Iran.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not.

[Adam Curry]

Now I have a question.

[John C. Dvorak]

How is it a banner moment is not going to go anywhere?

[Adam Curry]

No, of course not. I mean we've already discussed that every president, Democrat or Republican, considers the war powers resolution to be unconstitutional. And if they were really serious, the House, they would pass a bill to block funding. That is their mandate. They have the purse. So they're not really serious about it. This is just grandstanding. But here's a question I have about Massie. Revenge is a dish best served cold, according to Thomas Massie of Kentucky. Taki explain why his vote might have been the deal breaker on this.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Well, look, Congressman Massie is someone who has in the past raised questions about the U.S. s involvement overseas. So certainly his decision, you know, to vote in favor of the War Powers act, notable on that front, but also notable because of the fact that, you know, this could be viewed in some circles as retaliation against President Trump for endorsing against him in his latest primary. Massey and Trump have had this kind of rocky back and forth relationship for many months now. In fact, stretching back to the president's first term. There were times where Congressman Massie went against President Trump's will and, you know, incurred his wrath. The President though had in the past endorsed Congressman Massie, of course, choosing a different direction this time. Congressman Massie ultimately losing that primary. But again notable in fact, because of Congressman Massie's decision today, whether he would have made the same exact decision had he not lost his primary. That, of course, is somewhat of an open question.

[Adam Curry]

So if Massey is such a die hard on the Constitution, the Constitutional this and that, why would he vote for something that he should know is inherently unconstitutional? Congress doesn't get to.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think. I think you misstated it. I don't think he's a constitutional nut.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's what. Oh, every. That's what. That's his brand. That's what. The Tuckers of the world and all, they're.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're full of shit.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you, Lady Vox in the troll room says reality colon. The show, and indeed the whole community, as illustrated in no Agenda's rejection of no Agenda Social, has split over Israel, Zionists and Jews. Right or wrong, Jews have divided podcasting and audiences. But let me say something. There were 3,000 accounts on no Agenda Social. They left. So let's say a thousand of those were bogus and 2000 are left. People who didn't really care. All they did is troll. They didn't donate. Arner. I mean, he provided his time and talent. That's not a split. That's a fractioning. It's not a split.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fractioning.

[Adam Curry]

Fractioning.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like it.

[Adam Curry]

It's not a crazy argument, but it's true.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I know, but it's funny you come up with that word. I'm impressed.

[Adam Curry]

Oh. Oh, goodness. Thank you. Play some clips so I could be impressed by you, too, I feel.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, let's get some. Well, let's. You're talking about the stuff going on in Congress. There's a big meeting about some detransitioner and the action going on there about trying to get some laws passed. I thought this was worth playing. This changes the subject a little bit, gets. Well, before we do that, let's go. Let's get some of the Iranian clips out of the way. I got a Iran deal. One from ntd.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

President Trump saying that ongoing talks with

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Iran are going, quote, very well and that if a deal does happen, it'll be over the weekend. NDD's White House correspondent Mario Tsu brings us the latest from the North Lawn.

[Interviewee/Official]

They're pretty close to signing a paper. We've actually gotten along with them very well. And you know what you saw for the last few nights, it takes two to tango. You understand that. We hit them very hard on something else unrelated. And so they were responding. I mean, if it happens, and it might not happen, you know, who knows? But if it happens, it could Happen

[Reporter/Correspondent]

like over the weekend, President Trump declaring that no boots are on the ground will be needed in Iran, citing the military successes of operations Midnight Hammer and Epic Fury. That's as he announces that the Iranian regime has agreed to no nuclear weapon.

[Military Official]

I can tell you this. We defined victory. We defined victory as destroying their defense industrial base, significantly reducing the number of missile launchers that they possess, significantly reducing their stockpile of drones. And we achieved all of those, in addition to destroying what they had left of an air force and wiping out their entire conventional navy. Those are all gone. So I consider that victory. And we did, too. And that was the purpose of Epic Fury.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

And as President Trump continues to weigh whether the US Will resume its strikes inside Iran, the US Naval blockade on Iranian ports is holding strong, with Central Command announcing that 125 commercial vessels have now been redirected from either entering or exiting Iranian ports in the Strait of Hormuz. The President saying that the US has been clearing mines in the street in anticipation of its opening when a deal signs.

[Adam Curry]

I did not hear anything about US Clearing mines.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you just did.

[Adam Curry]

Well, yeah, you know, he, he had a talk with a reporter from cnbc. It wasn't recorded. The reporter gave his report of the conversation and the president said, well, just blow him to kingdom come. But no one picked up on it. If he doesn't say it and it's not on, on audio tape is not good enough.

[John C. Dvorak]

I. Well, I like that. You're right. Let's play the second half of this.

[Interviewee/Official]

The hormone strait will open immediately upon signing. Now, that's subject to a couple of areas being cleaned out, also of mines, which we don't think there are any. So it'll happen very quickly and we'll take the southern route. Anyway. Immediately upon signing, we open up the hormone strain.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, see, just so everyone realizes, as I've said ad nauseam, we control the Straits, not Iran.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Meanwhile, just about a month ahead of America's 250th birthday, President Trump is highlighting various construction and beautification projects that he spearheaded throughout the capital, including fixing 28 fountains in D.C. personally contributing to renovating Lafayette park in front of the White House, which had been in terrible condition and used as a protest site, and notably completing the final coat of protection on the Lincoln Reflecting Pool, writing, quote, this will be the first time since the day it was built, 1922, that it has worked and worked wonderfully indeed.

[Interviewee/Official]

And you can have something you're going to be very proud of, and It'll last for 50 to 1. Hundred years before you have to do anything with it. Very strong, powerful substance that we use. And we picked a color called American flag blue. So it's going to be really special. I thought you'd like to see it.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

This new announcement coming as President Trump has tied in his beautification efforts with matters of national security. His third assassination attempt at the White House Correspondents Dinner, renewing a push for a secure event space found in the White House ballroom. Reporting from the White House, Mario to NTD News.

[Adam Curry]

Before we go to trans.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, before we go to Trans, I also have one more clip in the Iran series. All right, I just want to play. This is, this is from the hearings. They had Ruby up there.

[Adam Curry]

That's what I wanted.

[John C. Dvorak]

Snippet from Rubio being Ruby, our next president Rubio Lubio is. He's a wise ass. He is, and he loves being a wise ass. And he's. But he does it. He, he could be. He has different styles of comedy, but the style he likes to use I think the most in public now after his earlier kind of experimentation with the small hands jokes and things like that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stand more standard comic fare. He likes to understate things and be kind of a deadpan. He likes a deadpan wise ass. And this is right in the middle of the hearings, and I think this is a perfect example.

[Adam Curry]

Some Democrats are making the laughable claim that Iran is stronger today than they. Than they were before. Epic fury. Can you set the record straight?

[Military Official]

They have no navy, they have no air force. They have no air defenses. They have substantial massive destruction to the defense industrial base. They've lost a substantial percentage of their missile launchers and of their drone launchers as well. They're not benefiting from the straits being closed because the blockade is keeping them from hundreds of millions of dollars a day in revenue. They've had their seat ships seized in the Indo Pacific. Their leadership is fractured. They have hyperinflation, their currency is worthless, and they're having trouble making payroll. I guess other than that, they're doing well.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Did you. The Boston Whaler thing was kind of cute, too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Boston Whaler.

[Adam Curry]

I have that here. Hold on a second.

[Military Official]

Iran's desire to build a nuclear weapon was going to be built, was going to be effectuated behind a conventional shield. They were going to build for themselves so many missiles, so many drones, so many conventional weapons, including a navy, that at that point, there's nothing you could do about it. What they tried to do is they were going to try to build a conventional shield and Hide behind that conventional shield and basically say to the world, if you come and do anything about our nuclear program, we will overwhelm you with missiles, we will overwhelm you with drones, and we will overwhelm you with our navy. And you will not win. You will not be able to do anything about it. They were seeking that point of immunity, which is why the President chose to act to deny them that point of immunity. Operation Epic Fury. Some of you didn't like it, some of you, you did. Successful in achieving its military objectives, which is dramatically reducing the defense industrial base of Iran. The ability to build these missiles and to build these drones, especially the missiles program, substantially degraded a substantial percentage. And I'll leave the exact numbers to the Department of War, because I'm not a general and I'm not here to speak as a military planner.

[Adam Curry]

I love that I'm not a general.

[Military Official]

But a substantial degradation in the number of launchers that they have as well. They still have a lot of drones, because these are easy to make. We all know it's not an Iran challenge. This is a global challenge, and it's playing out every single day around the world. I mean, Mexican cartels are using UAVs against each other, and we should imagine at some point may even use it against our own, against our interest. So this is a pervasive problem around the world. The economics of it are something we

[Adam Curry]

have to solve for.

[Military Official]

But nonetheless, even their drone building capability has been eroded. Today they're in is no Iranian navy. There is no such thing. There's a bunch of Boston Whalers with machine guns on them, but there is no navy. There is no Iranian navy. It lies at the bottom of the ocean and will soon, within a number of years, be prime fishing spots because they'll turn into reefs.

[Adam Curry]

I wonder if he's a boat guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he's in Florida.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, all boat guys.

[Adam Curry]

Boston Whaler. And you know, that's not talking about some old ship with sails. I mean, a Boston Whaler is an actual type of small boat. Yeah, I think Andrew Horowitz has one of those. Doesn't he? Doesn't he have a Boston Whaler?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he's got a. He's got a more conventional fishing boat.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, the best, though, was just before you get to the trans clips, because these Senate hearings were fantastic. General Scott Bessant on the down low. Man, that guy. Impressed.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is where he rails against Wieden.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, this was good. And Wieden. I hadn't seen Wieden in A long time. Guy looks like he's got one foot in the grave.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, the guy's looked like that for the last two or three years. Yeah, super pale.

[Adam Curry]

He's got, you know, ozempic face. Kind of looks dead. Yes, looks dead. Yeah, that's dead. I'm looking for Mr. Wyden. What does he. Oh, the guy looks dead. You'll find him. Treasury Secretary is simply out of step with the American people. There's no better example than the fact that there's been a cover up of the massive file of Epstein's financial records for a year and a half. This is part of the effort I've made. It's the only one to follow the money in the Epstein situation. And yet there's been denial of access to committee investigators and lying in public about their significance. That subject alone deserves its own hearing. Senate investigators are trying to figure out who paid Epstein. Epstein for girls. And unfortunately, Secretary Besson, this is interesting, what he just says here. Who paid Epstein for girls? That is, in fact, precisely your theory. It's not really the Epstein conspiracy theory. There's a bunch of kids and kiddie porn and pedophiles and children and adrenochrome. You know what I mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, no, it's just a prostitution operation.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but he kind of gives that away. Who paid Epstein for girls? And unfortunately, Secretary Besant is involved in preventing that from happening. The bottom line in this administration is the machinery of government works to the benefit of Donald Trump before all else. That's the corrupt framework that produces. Protects pedophiles and dismisses the concerns of people who are worried about being able to make rent and to feed their families. And General Scott Bessant comes back slow but strong. Thank you. And I do want.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

I had hoped to keep this the inter. The. In terms of the economy.

[Adam Curry]

He almost choked. He's like. Yeah, well, calm down, calm down.

[John C. Dvorak]

He chokes. He's a choker.

[Adam Curry]

He's a joker. All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

If he didn't have this. This habit of choking instead of calming down and then delivering the goods, I mean, he'd be twice as effective. But he's effective enough with this little blast.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

In terms the.

[Adam Curry]

In terms of the economy, Senator Wyden

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

has mendaciously slandered the treasury building in

[Adam Curry]

an attempt to cover up his son having an investment meeting with Jeffrey Epstein, front row, to ask for funding. Thank you. Thank you. It's like Mike Droppage. Okay, yes. Let's be clear here. Nobody is interested in the ramblings of a capo in the most corrupt regime in American history. We want to get some facts about this deal. That's what we're here for. Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, thank you. And I will ask my questions first today.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

And we would like to hear what

[Adam Curry]

Adam Wyden and Jeffrey Epstein talked about. Your son's largest investment position was Rick's Cabaret. So did your son and Jeffrey Epstein talk about pole dancing as he begged him for money using your limited credibility. Your limited credibility. Nice. Nice.

[John C. Dvorak]

The, also, the other problem that Besson has, he is, he has a nervous sound. He sounds like he's nervous when he's delivering the goods.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he does. He doesn't have a steady voice. I agree. Yeah, that is it.

[John C. Dvorak]

He needs some coaching or something. Well, but it's just mad. He gets angry and he starts to get that voice. Well, yeah, you know, this kind of, it's just in there. It just sounds like he's, It's a nervous voice. It's not good. But, but he has, you know, he, he delivers. He delivers.

[Adam Curry]

He delivers. Yeah. Have you, have you looked at his face yet and seen the resemblance with Elizabeth Warren?

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

When you, once you see it, you can't unsee it. That's like they're from the same Indian tribe. I think there's something about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

It could be.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Anyway, I, I, I love Scott Besson, and I think Lubio will make a great president. Vance is just, you know, he's not showing the goods.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think Vance, I don't think Vance is enjoying himself.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he, I thought he enjoyed the whole fraud thing. He kind of like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I, I don't know. I mean, Rubio's been around forever. He's got more, he has a better handle on the government. I mean, Vance is a newbie, let's face it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't want to run. I wouldn't want to run him that quickly anyway. Let him.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, get him, get some, get some legs under him. Get some experience.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So there's a, There was another hearing that didn't get much play, which is a detransitioner. And the whole problem. Because they did pass. I think it was, I don't know if it was a Executive order.

[Adam Curry]

I think it was executive order that

[John C. Dvorak]

will not allow any more of this. Using puberty blockers on kids, ruining.

[Adam Curry]

But hold on a second. If you stop taking them, you just go back to what you were. We were told that over and over and over again by politicians and doctors and advocates

[John C. Dvorak]

not to be the case.

[Adam Curry]

Is it not true?

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Senate help committee held a critical hearing on protecting children children from irreversible gender transition procedures.

[John C. Dvorak]

With growing concerns over the sharp rise

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

in medical interventions on minors, the spotlight

[John C. Dvorak]

was on detransitioners and medical interventions.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Lovely medical experts warning about those dangers. Entities Washington correspondent Jack Bradley has the details.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

The entire premise of transgenderism is that I will take my own life if I don't transition right. Yet here I am today on Capitol Hill.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Senators hearing testimony exposing how children are being rushed into life altering puberty blockers in surgeries, often with devastating and irreversible consequences.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

I am what is known as a detransitioner.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Chloe Cole, a 21 year old D transitioner from California shared her story about how she was influenced by social media at a young age to think that she may be a boy trapped in a girl soul's body. She began taking hormone and puberty blocking medicine at the advice of her psychologists and physicians at just 12 years old and had a double mastectomy when she was 15. And says that the doctors gave her parents an ultimatum.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Transition or your child is going to kill themselves.

[Adam Curry]

Yep, we kind of pegged that one 18 years ago.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Adam Curry]

I'm so, I'm so sad that just this, this went on and on and the peep and of course it will. The parents who've done this to their children, they can never admit they were wrong.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's impossible.

[Adam Curry]

I mean their brain has been wired. There's no way you could ever. I mean, what a horrible thought to think you have been suckered into this and you've damaged your child.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

But multiple studies have found that gender surgeries and puberty blockers do not reduce long term mental illness or suicide rates. Other countries have rightly reacted to this evidence. The United Kingdom has banned puberty blockers and the National Health Services has stopped providing cross sex hormones for youth. Cole says she was never warned about the permanent effects of the drugs and surgery she underwent.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

I'm still suffering the consequences. I still have chronic pain in my joints, in my back, in my pelvis. I don't know if I'm going to be able to have children of my own.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Cole is just one of tens of thousands who underwent such life altering procedures when they were children.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

I'm not alone. I have hundreds of friends who have been to the same thing. An entire generation of children were lied to. There is no such thing as a child being born in the wrong body. But there are physicians and medical bodies who prey on the confusion of perfectly healthy young boys and girls.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Now, the Democrat senators present on the committee dismissed this hearing as a waste of time and politically charged. All of them completely avoided questioning Chloe Cole or the medical doctor from do no Harm on the panel, and instead brought their own witness, an LGBT lawyer who argued against government intervention.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

It is not the place of politicians to insert themselves into these conversations, which are so unique to each child, but

[Adam Curry]

they did over and over and over again. How many politicians were crying and quitting and walking away and storming out and yelling, Think of the children. We do not forget these things, do we?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's like, the thing is, the Democrats wouldn't take part in the hearing because they're. They're all in. In fact, Tom Steyer's last move bringing back him back into the conversation was that was to do a video with a transgender girl, a transgender female who is a male in women's sports, and. And. And say, we're gonna. We're for. We're gonna make sure that, you know, people like you get in the. Get to play sports. And it was just like the. It was the icing on the cake for this guy. And. But he was sincere about it, thought it was a, you know, probably a. He thought it was a good, progressive way to go.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

But the rest of the panel, progressives

[John C. Dvorak]

all feel this way. I mean, it's. It's just that they have a different perspective.

[Adam Curry]

Is it perspective? Is it really. No, you have a third one. But is it perspective, or is it a psyop on their own party?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's hard to say. Before we play the. Well played. The third clip, then I had this. The clip from Australia.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

But the rest of the panel and the Senate Republicans present on the committee said that it is the government's role to protect children and the vulnerable.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

We already have legislation that is making other forms of abuse in children illegal. This is no different. As adults, we all have the responsibility to look after the children around us. That is our duty.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

On his first day back in office, President Trump signed an executive order restricting federal funding for puberty blockers and gender procedures for children. And those under 19. More than two dozen states have followed suit, already banning these irreversible interventions for minors.

[Adam Curry]

My question still stands. I mean, any person in their right mind can at least see the physical harm that is being done. I mean, the psychological part, okay, you want to be a boy, and you're a girl. Okay, well, go dress up whatever you want. But the mutilation part, Politicians. I'd love to know who really was behind this. This wasn't just. It became a milieu thing and it became a hill they were going to die on, as you constantly said. But how can you as a human being, as a parent, how can you even consider that this was okay other than we're going to win the election? It's more important because Trump equals Nazi.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I don't think that. I think that analysis is. It is headed in the right direction, but I don't think it really has that anything to do at all with Trump. Came around the 80s, pre Trump, and it started to build and build and build and it just became kind of a. All of a sudden became part of the litany of the progressives because, you know, people have to. We have to love everybody no matter what they're like or just the kind of a. It just got out of control. I think it just went out of control on its own. And these guys painted themselves into a corner and they can't get out of it. And there's a logical issue. I got this clip, the one that says Oz. This is at. This is a kind of. It's not Congress because it's in Australia, but there's a hearing about.

[Adam Curry]

About

[John C. Dvorak]

sex and

[Adam Curry]

you're cutting. You're muting yourself for some reason. Hello,

[John C. Dvorak]

here's what happens. My screensaver comes on and then when I hit the button to turn the screensaver to turn the screen back on, it mutes for some unknown reason. What happened to you today?

[Adam Curry]

Can you just minimize the clean feed window? That might help.

[John C. Dvorak]

It might make it. Yeah, well, there's a. Okay, here's.

[Adam Curry]

Hello, I'm here for your technology support. Give me your password. I will log in.

[John C. Dvorak]

I use the window as a cough button.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, okay, well, that's valid.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll just, I just be more aware of this and I'll. I'll correct.

[Adam Curry]

Anyway, you were saying there was a. It was a hearing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they're going on about it and, and I think you get some understanding, not quite a full understanding, but an understanding of this skewed logic that the progressives have developed. They painted themselves into a corner and then they have a skewed logic that they have to accept. And it's so screwy that when you hear this back and forth between this person who is the. Who handles. It's one of the legislative people grilling somebody who, who is in charge of how to a discrimination program. And let's just play it and we'll talk about it.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Australia has truly fallen. Listen to.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

This is a trans woman and she may be asked Whether or not she intends to have children and if she replies, yes, I do, and then doesn't get the job because that information employer doesn't want to employ women who may be of childbearing age, then she may have been subjected to unlawful discrimination on the basis of potential pregnancy. A biological male can't become pregnant. But the grounds of pregnancy includes potential pregnancy as well as pregnancy. But if they can't become pregnant, how can you then become potentially pregnant? It's about the uncle. Lawful treatment by the employer. If someone is treated unfairly on the basis of pregnancy or potential pregnancy, then that is unlawful discrimination on the basis of pregnancy. So if a bloke came in and they said, are you going to have children? Which is the same question, really? And he said, oh yeah, maybe. Are you saying that he could also claim that ground, A man who is seeking a position, then it's not going to apply to a man. They're both biological men.

[Adam Curry]

It makes no sense.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

A biological man. You started. A biological man can't get pregnant. Am I correct? Because if I'm not, I've got to go back to school. I seriously do because I missed that lesson in biology. But you said a biological man can't get pregnant. That's correct, Senator. But someone who is a trans woman may be assumed to to be pregnant or to be able to be pregnant.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

And to top it all off, from

[Adam Curry]

the commission's perspective, what is a woman? An adult female human. Thank you.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

And includes a transgender woman, a biological man, potential pregnancy. This is beyond insanity. Taxpayer funded institutions are now twisting sex discrimination laws. So far that biological reality itself is becoming contradictory, controversial. These laws were created to protect women, actual women. Instead, ideology is replacing common sense. Reality is being blurred and Australians have been told to ignore basic biology to avoid backlash. Enough is enough.

[Adam Curry]

Couple of comments. One, you could have run that through Adobe.

[John C. Dvorak]

I would have. Normally when I don't like the clip for various reasons, but when I play it on my system, the anomalies don't appear.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's just a lot of music and effects.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, that was my mistake because there was another clip out there I could have used.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no, it was just bomb.

[John C. Dvorak]

But that's. Okay, back to the topic.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, I think Australia should be divided in half and the bottom half should be returned to penal colony and they need to throw those people there. I know a lot of people in Australia who think this way, who are like, oh, you know, it's like, yeah, that's discrimination, man.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's this brings to mind. I don't have the clip I had. It's old. A girl who transitioned to a boy and she was early on and she was now probably 17 or 18 and she was told and she's doing a TikTok thing and it's serious, I'm sure. I don't think it was fake. She says I'm pregnant, but this is ridiculous. I can't be pregnant because I'm a boy.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

I went to the doctor and I told him, how can I possibly be pregnant? I'm a boy. Boys don't get pregnant. And she was. And it was. She, he was dead serious. She was a girl turned, you know, who transitioned to a boy.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, so she actually was pregnant but she couldn't believe it because she believed she was a boy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

And sincerely believed that. Look, if I'm a boy in a girl's body and I decide I'm going to have to transition to become a boy, I'm a boy now, I can't get pregnant.

[Adam Curry]

This is. Well, that shows you the power of mind control of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. And that's what I think is going on with the Democrats in general and the people that wouldn't show up to this hearing with the detransitioning person and the rest of it and the crazy woman in Australia who said, yeah, yeah, the trans woman can get potentially pregnant even though she can't get pregnant.

[Adam Curry]

So it's really a large portion of our political, our body politic has been MKUltra.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, if you want to call it MK Ultra, it's just old fashioned brainwashing.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, that's what MK Ultra is, you know, so we. Our boy Talarico here in Texas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah, your guy.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, my guy. Yeah, my guy. He's walking everything back now, now that you know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he can't. He's in.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but listen, listen to how pathetic it sounds. In 2021, in a speech during debate over transgender issues, you said God is non binary. What did you mean by that?

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Well, you know, I think I was being intentionally provocative with that statement.

[Adam Curry]

What? I was just kidding, man.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

But what it means is that God can't be defined by human categories. The apostle Paul in his letter to the Galatians says that in Christ there is neither male nor female. I'm always going to stand up for Texans who are being picked on by the most powerful, most corrupt politicians in the country.

[Adam Curry]

Quick deflection.

[John C. Dvorak]

Being picked on.

[Adam Curry]

Quick deflection.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

And I'm going to continue doing that in this race.

[Adam Curry]

And hopefully you call it intentionally provocative. You Regret describing it that way or talking about God that way.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

I. There are some statements that I've made that I. That I certainly regret. There are statements that I've made where I've missed the mark. I'll be the first to admit that. But Ken Paxton is intentionally clipping my cringy comments to distract from his career of corruption.

[Adam Curry]

Well, yeah, son. It's called politics. That's exactly how it works. You're trying to pander with this nonsense, and then the other team is going to clip that and tell everyone you're a nut job, which you sound like you are. Let me run one more by you, because again, the president and other Republicans are bringing it up again in 2021, while debating a bill that restricted transgender student athletes. You said modern science acknowledges six biological variations based on chromosomes to argue that sex is a nuanced spectrum, not a strict binary. Do you still believe there are six biological sexes?

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

I know there are two sexes, men and women. I also know there's a very small percentage of people who have these chromosomal abnormalities, and I believe they deserve to be treated with dignity and respect.

[Adam Curry]

Is that what the consultants told you to say? Wow. No, that's not going to work, son. That is not going to work. What is what a moron. Truly pathetic. Yeah, wow is right. It's pathetic.

[John C. Dvorak]

That guy, you know, what about. Did they go on after his veganism in Texas?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they went after that, too. I'm not a. This campaign is run on barbecue. He's now coming. Yeah, I'll get the clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

Barbecued corn? What's he talking about?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. No, man, we're Texans over here. The guy, just. You look at him, he's. He's been. He's like a Frankenstein. And the hair cut, it's like a semi bowl cut, like he's been put together in a lab. No, that guy's doesn't look comfortable. No, he's no good. But, you know, let's be honest about it. Trump is still a misogynist. They're going back to that now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you know, back to the. Well, it worked before.

[Adam Curry]

Here it is.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Now, I'm not asking Caitlin about this because she's got actual work to do and she doesn't need to be answering questions about this.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on. Actually, I think this is. I start with this one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so you're. This is going to be about Caitlin Clark and his blast of her.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. You don't like.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because I have a. Something I got to read.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, good.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

In a letter justifying the firing hold on.

[Adam Curry]

Sorry, I'm all over the map. Here we go.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Before we move on, though, I want to show you another moment from that Q and A with the president because the president did something completely unwarranted. You saw some of it just now, verbally attacking Kaitlan Collins. But I want to set the scene. He was answering someone else's earlier question, not hers, about his fund. She'd said nothing to him ahead of it. At this point, she was simply standing there doing her job, listening to his remarks defending the January Sixers. And then, I just want to play what happened.

[Interviewee/Official]

But these people, their lives have been destroyed, their families have been destroyed. Many of them. I'm not just talking about a few people. Many of them. I'm one of them. I look, they raided my house. Mar A Lago. That never happened. Nobody ever thought of anything like that. It turned out that it was a total fake. Everything about it was fake and corrupt.

[Adam Curry]

We have all the information, if only once. You know, he was so close to saying fake and gay, but he can't do it. But if he did that, it would be awesome.

[Interviewee/Official]

Like that. It turned out that it was a total fake. Everything about it was fake and corrupt. We have all the information. You know, the good advantage to sitting here is we can get information that you wouldn't get by what we have and what we are going to be showing over the coming weeks on Run. She. You're not even going to believe. Some of you will believe it. Like CNN will believe it because they knew what was going on. They're crooked as hell. CNN's a very corrupt organization, but with a corrupt reporter standing right there. Never smiles. She never smiles. She's a young, beautiful woman. Never smiles. I never see a smile off her face. I see her standing there with hatred in her eyes. Like she has hatred because we have borders, because we have a strong military, because we cut our taxes, because we do things that everybody wanted, and then we win our election in a massive landslide.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there was a whole bunch more. They had a whole compilation of him being mad, but he always says, horrible person, not woman. In fact, I should probably play a little bit of that just to even it out.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not more of it. This is good stuff. And he also mentions there's. There's a whole thing that. Which I'm going to read from a little bit from. Because it's bull crap. They, you know, Stelter is all over this and Cooper Pooper's all over it.

[Adam Curry]

Listen to the compendium.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

I'm not asking Caitlin about this because she's got actual work to do.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'm not gonna bring Caitlin into the conversation because she's working hard and she doesn't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we know that journalists never interview other journalists.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Questions about this kind of behavior. That's the President, United states. A nearly 80 year old man who has no problem commenting on her physical appearance and telling her she needs to smile. That doesn't happen to men. No one's ever said that to me in an office setting.

[Adam Curry]

You're not a man.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

She was there like every other journalist, doing her job, standing around with a bunch of non smiling men, by the way, all behind her. I don't know if you saw that. She gets singled out now. This, of course, is not the first time the President has focused on professional female report reporters, Caitlin included.

[Interviewee/Official]

You are the worst reporter no one to see. CNN has no ratings because of people like you. I don't think I've ever seen a smile.

[Adam Curry]

I'm asking you about survivors of Jeffrey Epstein.

[Interviewee/Official]

You are an obnoxious.

[Adam Curry]

A terrible.

[Interviewee/Official]

Actually a terrible reporter. Are you stupid? Are you a stupid person? You're a terrible person and a terrible reporter. You ought to go back and learn how to be a reporter. No more questions from you.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Quiet, quiet.

[Adam Curry]

Now, I don't know if you want to do your reading before or. I have two clips, buck and a half each, where pooper brings on a YouTuber to talk about this, which is.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, let me just get this on.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, go ahead.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because you played part of it. Okay already, go ahead. Which is a pooper going on about? I'll read from this. This is from Brian Stelter's newsletter you subscribe. Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Is it a substack or is it a pro news.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, it's a newsletter. It comes right out of cnn.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. Wait, is he back at cnn? I thought he was fine.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he does a newsletter and he once in a while does a spot. He does a hit.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I got a hit from him later.

[John C. Dvorak]

Anderson Cooper played the clip and reached out to say, that's the President of the United States, blah, blah, blah. Exactly what he said. Telling her she needs to smile. That doesn't happen to men. No one's ever said that to me in an. Of course you made the Comedy's Not a Man. Okay. It's happened to me in an office setting, in a broadcasting environment. When I was at Tech tv, we had these consultants that came in to try to improve us and I was always resistant to even meet with this woman who took me into the office to tell me about what she thought of my performance. She said, do you like doing this? And I said, I kind of like it. I mean, it's fine. And she said, well, you don't look like it. You don't look like you're enjoying yourself. You need to smile more.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that is rude.

[John C. Dvorak]

So she says that to me. And here I'm reading. No one's ever said that to me in an office. And no one's ever said it to men in an office. Bull crap. It happens all the time to men and women. I had this when I was doing a lot of radio. I had some guy saying, oh, you know, you'd go a lot further in radio if you had a smile in your voice. You know, that sound. How you doing? That kind of thing? I'm not going to do that because it's not my.

[Adam Curry]

Did he follow it up by saying, be careful, Otherwise you're going to go straight from radio to podcasts.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is pre podcasting. But anyway, the point is, this is a lie.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, of course it is. But why? Why are they even doing this? Who cares? Why all of a sudden is this an issue? Why are they going back to the Trump rotation?

[John C. Dvorak]

I have no idea. I like to figure it out.

[Adam Curry]

Well, here is. So Pooper had to accentuate this with Tara Palmieri. She is. Wait for it. The host of the Tara Palmieri show on YouTube. She is the author and writer of the Red Letter newsletter. Now you need to subscribe to this thing, the Red Letter newsletter.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Joining us now is Tara Palmieri, host of the Tara Palmieri show on YouTube, author of the writer and writer of the Red Letter newsletter. It's. I mean, I don't know why I'm surprised by this. I shouldn't be. But I just.

[Adam Curry]

We're surprised you're spending airtime on it.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

I don't think guys. I don't think any guy would. It's just bizarre that this is something he does over and over and over again. I mean, and I think people do it to women all the time.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Yeah, absolutely. What you are seeing is a day in the life of a woman.

[John C. Dvorak]

He did this to Major Garrett, if you remember, during his first term. He's done it to guys, too.

[Adam Curry]

I don't remember that, but it wouldn't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. He told Major Garrett he's a lousy. Reported the same exact. And he's done it to other males. This is bulky. This is another lie.

[Adam Curry]

But why? I don't understand. What is the point? What do they have in Their arsenal that they're revealing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe there's something coming up. They're setting this up.

[Adam Curry]

Something. And to bring this lady in.

[Commentator/Analyst]

She's a powerful woman, and he's objectifying her. And he's using a misogynistic comment about her appearance to belittle her. Because, in fact, when Kaitlan Collins is standing there, she is a woman with agency, and she has a lot of power. She represents the people of the United States of America.

[Adam Curry]

Wait a minute.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

I think it's the president that represents the people of the United States of America. But now somehow the woman who has agency, Kaitlan Collins, she represents the people of the United States of America. This is an interesting twist.

[Commentator/Analyst]

A lot of power. She represents the people of the United States of America. And she's holding him to account by asking him questions in the Oval Office. And he does not like that. And he does not like that. The vessel of a person who is asking them that.

[Adam Curry]

That most vessel of a person, the vessel like your body that mean this is interesting.

[Commentator/Analyst]

And he does not like that. And he does not like that. The vessel of a person asking them, I guess, that those questions that challenge him is a woman because he's used to women being around him that are people pleasers or smilers or secretaries or cabinet secretaries, as we've seen from the various, you know, hearings that we've actually watched on tv.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so secretary in the office equals now cabinet secretary.

[Commentator/Analyst]

And the deference that they show him. But also, this is a man who owned beauty pageants, who was a judge in modeling competitions, who's used to seeing women have to smile and please him to advance in life. Caitlin is not that woman. She is a woman who has made her way in life on her own as an independent woman challenging his authority on behalf of the American people.

[Adam Curry]

I have to ask the robot something here for a second, because I think there's. Hold on one second. Let me get the robot fired up. Book of Knowledge. Did Anderson Cooper ever judge a beauty pageant? I have a feeling he did. Book of Knowledge is going through all the past episodes of all beauty pageants ever. According to the Book of Knowledge. Anderson Cooper spoke of reporting on beauty pageants as a way to regain perspective. But he has served as a critical commentator rather than a judge, hosting pageant mothers on his show Anderson to examine their practices. Thus it has been written. He didn't pipe up or say anything about that. Like, well, you also have a lot of experience with beauty pageants. And this woman continues.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

There's a Yale professor named Marianne LaFrance, who studies this sort of thing extensively. She wrote a book called why the Science Behind Facial Expressions. She says that men in these situations laugh. She said, quote, laugh it off as though it's a male prerogative to tell a woman what to do with her body. She also says, quote, females are supposed to smile more than men. It's not just that they do, but there is a prescriptive stereotype that they should somehow. I'm wondering what you make of her assessment.

[Adam Curry]

Could this be a setup to a Kamala Harris rerun? Maybe, you know, they're trying to condition everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lame if true.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's cnn.

[Commentator/Analyst]

It's absolutely true. I mean, to smile is to please the other person unless you are doing it out of pure happiness and you're feeling it yourself. But when you are doing it in deference, which is what he wants. He wants her to be happy about his policies. That's what he's saying to her. You should be happy smiling for what I'm doing for you. You know, he sees her as someone who cannot challenge him. I think she really challenges his worldview. When he talks about Make America Great Again, he's talking about a female archetype that Kaitlan Collins is not. He is talking about a woman from the time when he grew up in the mind reader 1960s, worked in a role as a secretary or an aide to a powerful man where men decided to women's fate. Women couldn't even open credit cards at that point in their lives. You know, you went to college if you could, and you immediately tried to get married. Caitlin is none of those things. And if anything, President Trump keeps trying to bring back these glory days when men had more power over women and the only way for them to advance was beautiful and to smile. Maybe they could be models, maybe they could be in a beauty pageant and maybe they could have a little bit of power during that short period of time when they were beautiful and could smile.

[Adam Curry]

I'm baffled by this whole segment because it came out of the so called slush fund, the $1.8 billion slush fund.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got a couple clips on the slush fund going down the tubes.

[Adam Curry]

You want to talk about Scott Pelley first?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'd rather not. Okay, I don't mind talking about it, but the slush fund clips are pretty decent.

[Adam Curry]

All right, let's go to your slush fund.

[John C. Dvorak]

Start with NBC. I got two of it. The NBC abandonment of the 1.8 billion. And I think this, by the way, this was a good idea.

[Adam Curry]

Well, yeah, I think we both agreed on it because we know people who, whose lives were in fact ruined, who hadn't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they could use some money.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, they could.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Tonight, the Trump administration appearing to abandon plans for its $1.8 billion so called anti weaponization fund amid stiff Republican opposition and the judge's order to halt work on it. The Department of Justice saying it, quote, disagrees strongly but will abide by the court's ruling.

[Interviewee/Official]

People were destroyed. They went to jail.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

President Trump had defended the fund created to compensate people he says were unfairly prosecuted by the Biden administration. But it drew bipartisan condemnation, including a closed door clash between Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche and GOP senators amid concerns it could be used to January 6 rioters.

[Adam Curry]

This is just stupid on stilts. Stupid on stilts. I kind of like that, you know,

[John C. Dvorak]

this is stupid on the Republicans themselves. Are the ones responsible for this thing caving in?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I don't know why. Don't know why. They wonder why.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's got to be some. I don't know. I think they were thinking it was going to be used as leverage against them in an election or something because it's, there's a lot of money.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, that's kind of dumb.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, here's the Trump 1.5. This is the ABC version. Hold on. Trump's under Trump. Trump's 1.8 billion.

[Adam Curry]

Got it.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Also breaking tonight, we learned late today that President Trump's plan to use $1.8 billion in taxpayer money to potentially pay those who attack The Capitol on January 6 has now been scrapped after all. Revolt from Republicans. But tonight, some Republicans are still sounding somewhat skeptical. They want a promise on this. Rachel Scott on the Hill.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Are you going to drop the fund? Tonight, faced with a growing revolt from Senate Republicans, Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch arriving on Capitol Hill announcing the administration is scrapping the President's $1.8 billion so called weaponization fund that would have been paid for by taxpayers to compensate allies, including January6.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ryan,

[Adam Curry]

we are not moving forward with the fund.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Not moving forward ever.

[Military Official]

Correct.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

It comes just 24 hours after President Trump told our John Carl he would abide by a recent court ruling putting the fund on hold, saying we are subject to the courts at this moment. That's what it is. But that wasn't enough to satisfy Republicans. You want to see him drop it completely? Yes, I've made that very clear.

[Adam Curry]

If he doesn't, we're back to square one tonight.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Blanche says getting rid of the fun would not impact another part of the Administration settlement with the IRS barring tax audits on President Trump and his family. Democrats labeling it blanket immunity. Simply put, you just gave the President's family a tax immunity to the tune of about $100 million.

[Adam Curry]

Not true.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

And so, David, tonight, that $1.8 billion fund, some of which could have gone to January six rioters, has been scrapped. Republicans wanted a public reversal, and tonight the acting attorney general says it will not move forward.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'm not sure why. Why they went all crazy about this either. And, And Kennedy. I heard Kennedy in there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep, that was Kennedy.

[Adam Curry]

It was interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's he got against it? He. I mean, old grandmas were thrown in jail.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

That weren't even in the Capitol. There was all kinds of miscarriages of justice involved with that. January 6th.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe all the lawyer. Maybe all the lawyers, like, come on, man, we got lawsuits running here. We don't want to lose our dough.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the only possible explanation.

[Adam Curry]

I can't think of much else. And then they rolled out the Gerbal shepherd to try and rile everybody up in the Democrat base.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're living in the darkest moment that

[Adam Curry]

I've experienced on this planet. Do you recognize the voice? Do you recognize the voice?

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it Richard Gere?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, it is. Whoever thought America could turn like this? Who ever thought that a maniac like this would be President of the United States?

[John C. Dvorak]

Maniac.

[Adam Curry]

Dismantle. Yeah, wait, no, no, I don't hear the plot.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is something for us to really communicate.

[Adam Curry]

Dismantle. Oh, he's got something to communicate. For us to communicate. All right, this is Richard, you know, hey, we need someone to communicate. We need a new slogan. Hey, Richard, Richard Gerbil Shepherd. We need a new slogan and we need you to launch that so everybody hears about it. Can you do that? Well, of course, once I'm. I gotta stop protecting Tibet, but I'm on my way. I don't have a plot.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is something for us to really communicate.

[Adam Curry]

Dismantle all the good things. America's never been a perfect place, but

[John C. Dvorak]

it has a perfect ideal that it's

[Adam Curry]

moving towards and always has. And it's been self corrective. First day, this guy dismantled almost everything that was good about the US government and the US people. How is this even possible? Because we went to sleep.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

We went to sleep.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I haven't done the slogan yet. Wait, wait, wait. Went to sleep. We didn't care.

[John C. Dvorak]

We didn't vote.

[Adam Curry]

We didn't really listen. But you See how quickly our world can be taken from us if we fall asleep. And we have to see the cues. We have to see the cues. Cue, cue. Qanon. What's this with the cue? Get to the slogan, man. And we have to see the cues. We have to see the cues. This, this, this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dictatorship of the monsters.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Nailed it.

[Adam Curry]

How quickly it happens. We have to be vigilant. Dictatorship of the monsters. Oh, Richard, that was, that was just

[John C. Dvorak]

like war of choice. That's going to go nowhere.

[Adam Curry]

Of course not. I could just see the meeting. Yeah, I'll do. I. I'm gonna, I'm gonna come up with something that'll stick. Dictatorship of monsters. Guaranteed. It's gonna work. It'll be great. Yeah. Sad.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lame.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Can I pivot for a moment to yes, please. Yeah. Robots, also known as artificial intelligence. So Jensen Wang put on his motorcycle jacket again. He was in Korea for some big computer conference and he went through an hour and a half of, I mean, your eyes glaze over. He's holding up chips, and this is for the enterprise and this, all kinds of code names and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But then at the very end, like the last five minutes, he comes out with something which I've been predicting, which is we're going from, as our friend Calacana said it, from the data center to the desktop. All these companies with all of their data centers and all of their energy needs and all of their models that need to run in the cloud and your inference and on the edge. It's all coming to your desktop, people. It's all coming to the desktop. And he showed this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that thing. Hold on.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

But that's not all.

[Adam Curry]

That's not all. He was trying to do a job. One more thing he's doing. That's not all. Look at my motorcycle jacket.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

But that's not all. That's not all. RTX Spark is a reinvention of laptop, but of laptop.

[Adam Curry]

What kind of English is this? This is a reinvention of laptop.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

Is a reinvention of laptop. But in fact, Microsoft Nvidia is reinventing all of PC. And today we're announcing a whole new line. Three revolutionary Windows machines covering desktop, laptop and workstations. All 100% Windows compatible. 100% CUDA CUDA, 100% Nvidia AI, tensor core. Everything that runs that you see that runs on Nvidia in all these different platforms around the world runs here. This is the first completely re engineered, reinvented line of PCs that has happened in 40 years.

[Adam Curry]

Now, I agree that it's is going to move to the desktop to laptop. But his initial rollout with Windows is showing how your agent is now controlling your Photoshop and controlling Blender and is doing things just faster than you can normally do it. And he has the right idea, but I think your computer will build software for you that you really need, not this crap that you don't need or not everyone's an architect. And then he says the most anti Wall street stock, IPO type of thing. This will be meter free. It's going to run on your own machine. You won't need. You won't need open AI, you won't need. He doesn't say that, but he infers you won't need OpenAI anthropic or Gemini. You won't need it. It's going to run at home.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

This agent could run 24, 77 meter free. And you could download your agent. You could raise your lobster in here. This is your claw. It's running all the time, no meter anxiety. And it's sitting here.

[Adam Curry]

No meter anxiety. Oops.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

Connected to your whole house, connected to your laptop, connected to your display, all the cameras, your, your dryer, your water cooler.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, this is where he loses. This is where, this is where he loses me. You could connect your. This is where he go. Instead of just saying, hey, you know, you can say, hey, I need a spreadsheet reader for my podcast. Hey, I need a thing to play clips for my podcast, which I have done and which my agent, my claw, my lobster did for me. No, he's going to the. For some idiotic reason to your dryer,

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

all the cameras, your, your dryer, your water cooler, your water heater, your everything, whatever you want.

[Adam Curry]

Whatever I want? Yeah. My doors, water heater, hooked to a

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

computer for your security system, all connected to this. And this becomes your personal AI, your personal AI agent. And it gets smarter and smarter and smarter over time. Because Today we have Nemotron 3 Ultra. Tomorrow we have Nemotron 41 Nemotron 5

[Adam Curry]

Nemotron 5 Nemotron Signature 6.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

And we just keep getting it smarter and smarter, smarter. And meanwhile, this is sitting at home helping you do things. If you want to book a travel, no problem.

[Adam Curry]

I want to book a travel.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want to book a travel. His English is deteriorating.

[Adam Curry]

I call American Express and say, I want to book a travel. I'm not dealing with that.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

Okay, Helping you do things. So if you want to book a travel, no problem, no problem. And if you, if you want an

[Adam Curry]

incredible system, I do, I want one

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

this is a DGX station for Windows, compatible with Windows, wants everything in Windows, and it has 768 gigabytes of memory. And so you could run a trillion parameter model. Yeah, this is unbelievable.

[Adam Curry]

That is literally ruining the whole business model of these IPOs that are coming. And then he just does another minute of shtick about his vision where I don't know if he's doing this to distract from the fact that this could put Office out of business or any software system out of business, really. Instead he goes to this vision.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

Something is happening here.

[Adam Curry]

Something is happening here.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

Remember 15, 20 years ago, we used to have an idea called a phone. Today we have an idea called a PC.

[Adam Curry]

Today, when you think about it, we have an idea. We have an idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not an idea. Phone's not an idea, it's a product.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

We have an idea called a PC. Today, when you think about your phone, the one thing you don't do with it is make phone calls. You do just about everything else I do. And so that phone means something very different to you than a phone of the past. Past. I am certain what's going to happen here is that the PC 10 years from now and the PC that you think about today, a tool, whether you launch applications, click and type. And this PC is going to be completely different. Here's my theory.

[Adam Curry]

Now I agree with him. You're, you're and your phone, the idea of a phone will be different. You won't be launching apps. You just tell your robot to do something and it'll do a pretty good job of it.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

I can totally imagine. Just as every house today has a home theater, where many houses have home theaters, big TVs, lawnmowers, dishwashers. I could totally imagine that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stop. Stop the clip.

[Adam Curry]

I know, it's idiotic.

[John C. Dvorak]

How many. This is a classic Silicon Valley kind of cloud fuzzy thinking that you think that everybody's got a home theater.

[Adam Curry]

Do you have a home theater?

[John C. Dvorak]

Most people live in apartments or they small houses. How many people do you know actually have a home? I don't have a home theater.

[Adam Curry]

I have a tv.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got a big TV set with a couch.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Funny, we have the same. We do not say, honey, after dinner, let's go sit in the home theater.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, the home theater is. I know people that have a home theater. It's an actual theater.

[Adam Curry]

Does Brunetti have a theater at the Ranch?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he does not have a Hollywood guy.

[Adam Curry]

A Hollywood guy?

[John C. Dvorak]

Hollywood guy without a home theater.

[Adam Curry]

Well, then he's not Hollywood. Arguably, that's Correct.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think. I think the number of people that have home theaters is. Even in Hollywood is a minor number. Yeah, I mean, yeah, Spielberg's. I mean, Lucas has got it beyond a home theater. He actually has a. An actual theater that they built just outside his house.

[Adam Curry]

What constitutes a home theater? Is it a. A big screen and 5.1 Dolby surround with a subwoofer?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I think a home theater is a separate room used only for watching movies and TV shows in a theater like environment where you have chairs set up in a. It could be modern style with, you know, just casual chairs. But there's gotta. But it's a. It's a dedicated room.

[Adam Curry]

Well, everyone.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not the family room where everyone's dicking around and there's a TV set. Everyone has. So this is unrealistic. His view of the, of the reality. His view of reality is skewed by Silicon Valley craziness.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

You think houses of home theaters, big TVs, lawnmowers, dishwashers. I could totally imagine that someday there's actually an AI supercomputer in your house and it's running all of your.

[Adam Curry]

And we're all going to sit there on the couch looking at it. Is that the. Is that the analog here?

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

Agents, it's running all of your assistants and they're doing all kinds of things for you.

[Adam Curry]

All they're watching the home theater for you. That's right.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can like, what, what is it doing?

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Time.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

And you have to have it in your house just like you have a home theater in your house. You have stereos in your house. You have game consoles in your house.

[Adam Curry]

What I'm missing is. Here's what I'm missing. And I, I would almost wager it's coming. Your agent will know when you've run out of milk and it from your smart fridge and it will order the

[John C. Dvorak]

milk for you back to the early 80s.

[Adam Curry]

It's coming, it's coming, it's coming. Do you know Ed Zitron? Ed Zitron? He does.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

He does a newsletter, maybe a substack. He also has a podcast and he is the anti AI guy. And Bloomberg,

[John C. Dvorak]

my anti A guy is that Marcus character.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this guy is good too. I like Ed Zitron and he was on Bloomberg and he just, he said so many things. I'm like, yeah, I agree, you're right. Absolutely.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

What are we getting?

[Adam Curry]

I don't want to say we. What are the bulls out there getting wrong about AI? Because you've made no secret that you don't see any there there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So I think people are to going conflating a semiconductor rally with an underlying

[News Anchor/Reporter]

successful business which doesn't really exist.

[John C. Dvorak]

Anthropic's current revenue growth, which is deeply

[Adam Curry]

questionable in the fact that they leaked profitability manipulated by Elon Musk. Of course their growth is coming because people cannot measure how much an AI task actually costs.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

And a couple of months ago Anthropic started charging their enterprise customers the actual token rates.

[Adam Curry]

What this has led to is suddenly

[News Anchor/Reporter]

businesses are going oh, how much money are we spending?

[John C. Dvorak]

Ubers. See I think it was Uber CEO

[Adam Curry]

Andrew McDonald said that they are having trouble justifying the I spend based on the actual return that one can actually measure it. So you've got a thing where you

[John C. Dvorak]

can't measure the costs, can't measure the return on investment. What do you call that?

[Adam Curry]

You call it a thing without an roi. He kind of nails it in that one sentence. You can't measure anything. This is all fluff. Not that it's not useful.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that's never happened in Silicon Valley before.

[Adam Curry]

Well the degree to what the, to what this is happening is what is staggering.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's pretty amazing what the price, the memory stocks, Seagate, Western Digital flying through the roof. Their stocks are worth a fortune of all Micron, a dead in the water company has been sitting there cranking up. Now there's like trillions dollar company. It's unbelievable. This is, this is ridiculous.

[Adam Curry]

So here's a guy from bank of America on CNBC talking about the financing, the financing of the data centers and that had a whole set of stuff with Whitmer Stargate in Michigan. I'll skip all of that. It's groovy, it's great, don't worry about it. But listen to this.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

I think everybody under anticipated the amount of debt finance financing that's needed. When you start to get to a

[Adam Curry]

deal of this scale that's a big, there's this throat large amount of debt

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

for the loan markets in general. And then if you think about the deals that have been done prior to

[Adam Curry]

this and all the discussions about additional

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

financing that's happening, you know $10 billion deals are becoming more the standard, not the outlier or 10 billion plus for the scale of these projects. And that's before you even get into to chip financing and kind of other equipment that's needed. So you're in the you know, 30 to $50 billion range which is just an incredible amount of capital needs.

[Adam Curry]

30 to 50 billion in debt. That is truly insane.

[John C. Dvorak]

You make it up in volume.

[Adam Curry]

So I have two clips here, each saying something different. We'll start with this dude on cnbc. The problem we face right now in the United States is that the government is doing nothing on AI.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

The government is doing nothing to stop

[Adam Curry]

AI from taking your jobs. The government is doing nothing to stop AI from exploiting your kid. Is doing nothing to stop AI from giving advice to a terrorist.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is doing nothing to stop AI from

[Adam Curry]

being a huge cybersecurity threat. And when you ask yourself why, it's because these AI companies have funded massive

[Reporter/Correspondent]

super PACs that are threatening to spend

[Adam Curry]

over $100 million in the upcoming elections. Wait a minute. Are they all Jewish? In order to silence people. That's wrong. We can, of course, respectfully work through the specifics of what AI policy should be, but we shouldn't be in a situation where AI companies have silenced the people's representatives and we do do nothing. And that's why I'm proposing this first step, a modest AI token tax to

[John C. Dvorak]

make sure that AI does not result in mass unemployment. Shoot this guy.

[Adam Curry]

I love the token tax idea. We don't even know how much a token is, but we're gonna tax it. Now we have David Sachs, who was the. The AI crypto czar until his time ran out. This is from the. From the all in pod. All in Pod. It's not a podcast. It's the all in Pod. And he speaks of Jevons Paradox, which was a new one to me. Sachs, you got a contrarian belief in 2026.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Yes. AI will increase demand for knowledge workers, not decrease it. I would refer you to Aaron Levy's post called Jevons Paradox for Knowledge Workers. And the point of Jevons Paradox is that as the cost of a resource goes down, the aggregate demand for it actually increases because you discover more and more use cases. So I think this will certainly happen with. With code. In the past, it's been very expensive to generate code. You have to hire engineers. There's not enough of them. It's an expensive resource. So the amount of software generated in the economy was limited by that. I think it's going to increase massively now because the cost of generating code is coming down so much. But there's other examples, too. You take a field like radiology that's frequently cited as a profession that AI is going to put out of business. That's not what the data shows. The data shows that the number of radiologists is increasing. Why? Because the number of Scans that people want to make is increasing, increasing. And it's true that AI can do some of the work, but you still need a doctor to prompt the AI to interpret the AI to validate it. So you get more efficient. The cost of scans goes down. And instead of it being a super speciality, that happens very rarely, that you need a referral on top of a referral to get, it becomes something that's normalized and everyone starts doing it and you start getting more and more scans that leads to better and better outcomes. I think there's going to be a lot of those examples through the economy, and we're going to look back and see that the job loss narrative was not only wrong, but we actually got job gains.

[Adam Curry]

I agree. I totally agree. We're going to get more productivity. It's not going to be, yes, we'll have some transition where coders will go away. How many coders really are there in the universe? Half a million? A million?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

No, we should have that number. But I.

[John C. Dvorak]

A lot of girls. I think everyone learn to code girls.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, I'm so productive now with my robot. I could do a show every day.

[John C. Dvorak]

You do a show every day? Damn near.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I know. But I still have doing a show

[John C. Dvorak]

every day before them.

[Adam Curry]

I still have Mondays and. And Tuesdays open and Saturday. Do a show Saturday and Saturday have

[John C. Dvorak]

the robot do the show.

[Adam Curry]

No, let's do it. That's the thing. The robot can't actually do the show. That's the beauty of it. The robot can't do a show. That's never going to happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can do a deep dive.

[Adam Curry]

I've actually taught the robot to identify the AI YouTube videos. It's pretty good now. It's pretty good. It figures it out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, this is YouTube videos. Oh, and what benefit is this to you?

[Adam Curry]

For clipping. For clipping, search and clip. That's a great benefit to me. Go through. Hey, I saw something funny that Rubio said, go find funny clips. It does a pretty good job. It misses a lot of good ones because it's in essence an intern with autism. But it does okay. Has different humor than me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, well, let's jump back to some current events. And this I found peculiar because this is from NTD and it was like, did you know Ukraine attacked St. Petersburg?

[Adam Curry]

No, I did not know this. This did not hit my robots purview.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, how come? That is. Here we go. This is Ukraine. It's St. Pete.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Ukraine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Today striking Russia's second largest city, St. Petersburg.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

This as Russia is holding a major economic forum in that city. Moscow is already vowing retaliation entities. International correspondent Arian Pasdar brings us the war update. New footage shows smoke rising into the air and explosions ringing out in Russia's St. Petersburg. Ukraine struck an oil terminal, a naval base and another missile military facility in the nation's second largest city. The attacks coming just hours before Russian President Vladimir Putin kicked off an economic forum. An apparent Ukrainian attempt to embarrass the Russian president. It's the fifth time the annual St. Petersburg International Economic Forum is taking place during the Ukraine war. Ukraine confirmed the attacks, releasing video footage of the drone strikes on multiple targets. President Vladimir Zelect Zelensky saying such deep strikes allow Ukraine to negotiate with Russia on equal terms.

[Adam Curry]

Good luck.

[John C. Dvorak]

Through our mid range and deep strikes, Russia is facing Clear, clear fuel shortages. So through what these.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, wait. Russia's facing fuel shortages?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is news to me.

[Adam Curry]

How does that work? They're sitting on nothing but oil fuel.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they're blowing up their refineries that they. There's one, I guess around St. Peter. They hit with a drone.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Allow Ukraine to negotiate with.

[Adam Curry]

That's an act of war.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Russia on equal terms.

[John C. Dvorak]

Through our mid range and deep strikes Russia is facing clear, clear fuel shortages.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

So through these pressure we are making Russia choose. Choose between diplomacy and further loss. Zelensky added that he's ready for direct peace talks with Putin. Russia meanwhile vowing retaliation.

[Adam Curry]

I'd like to remind you of the statement from the Ministry of Foreign affairs which said that our responses will be systematic in nature and indeed they already are.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

The spokesman added that Russian Russia will make sure to prevent such Ukrainian attacks in the future.

[Adam Curry]

It sounds to me like the Eurobirds along with Starmer that they're going all out now and they're sacking a sacrifice. Zelensky. This guy's going to get blowed up. This is a problem. This is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you know, I think we both have thought this for a while that Zelensky has a short window in his life, but it was not happening.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but this is, you know, now you're, now you're hitting where it hurts.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, here's part two.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Ukraine strikes on St. Petersburg come just days after Russia attacked multiple Ukrainian cities killing over 20 civilians. NATO chief Mark visiting one of those sites on Wednesday.

[Adam Curry]

This is a department store which has been heavily hit. Nice. Who is this? Who is this?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what you think it is.

[Adam Curry]

This is Margaret. Is this my boy? This is a department store which has been heavily hit. A sort of Shopping mall, but also a subway station. And the rescue workers, they work integratedly. These missiles integrated 40 minutes after each other. So here one of their colleagues have been killed because of the second missile impact.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Ruda is in Ukraine for a meeting of the NATO Ukraine Council where different nations advocate for Ukraine to join the military alliance. Arian Pastar, NTD News.

[Adam Curry]

You know, hey, Vladimir, we just, you know, this Iran war thing is getting too much coverage. You could do. We got to ramp this up a little bit. You got any drones, man? Can you do something a little more spectacular and then, you know, just do something good?

[John C. Dvorak]

Petersburg, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Can I do a little native ad for Mimi?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, please.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Egg prices are coming down fast, but not for the reasons some are claiming. I'm Brandon Gomez, CNBC's Food and Consumer wellness reporter. And yes, the egg market is still kind of a scramble. After last year's birds and shock left shelves light and prices high, things have now flipped. There are too many eggs and not enough pantries to handle them. Too many eggs in stores, a dozen eggs is actually dropping below a dollar. Good news for shoppers, your breakfast just got cheaper. Bad news for producers, their margins are getting whisked away. So what happened? Well, farmers rebuilt their flocks after the

[Adam Curry]

outbreak, but now the industry, no, not after the outbreak. After Trump came in and the ag Secretary along with Kennedy went, hey, hey, stop vaccinating these chickens. Let the ones you know die, who need to die, stop killing all the chickens and let's just get back to business.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Well, farmers rebuilt their flocks after the outbreak, but now the industry's got more eggs than demand can handle. And here's the twist that really makes this bad timing for egg Americans are eating more eggs than before. A new survey shows more than 4 in 10Americans have focused on protein more than than they were five years ago. And most say eggs are weekly go tos. The industry should be capitalizing on that demand. But input costs haven't gotten any easier for the industry. So feed, fuel and labor are still eating into their profits.

[Adam Curry]

And bottom line, that's the American system at work. A buck. A buck for a dozen eggs can't be very good. You know, Tina bought these jumbo eggs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, jumbos are the best. You know, they I'm suspicious.

[Adam Curry]

I'm suspicious.

[John C. Dvorak]

No jumbo eggs, chickens, sometimes when they're at the end of their life cycle, chickens will start to produce jumbo eggs and then they either get egg bound, most of those chickens get killed and eaten. They I only reason I know this because I Got a lecture about it from the expert. And so, because I love jumbo eggs, because sometimes jumbo eggs even have double yolks.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Yeah. That's freaky.

[John C. Dvorak]

And yeah. And so the jump. But I said, oh, jumbo eggs. Jumbo eggs in Mimi's tummy. Well, you know, if you're encouraging jumbo eggs, you're encouraging the death of chickens. Because chickens that produce jumbo eggs have to be taken out because they can't keep. They can't do it for long because it hurts. And then they get egg bound and other things happen and they get old slaughter.

[Adam Curry]

It hurts.

[John C. Dvorak]

But yeah, no, jumbo eggs are dynamite.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so they're not like factory freakishly.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, not at all. Phenomena with most chickens.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. All right. I just thought they came from really big chickens. And here is the breaking news we've been waiting for. For the almost two decades of this podcast, the question finally posed to Gayle King. It could only happen on a podcast. What is the one thing we want to know about Gayle and Oprah?

[John C. Dvorak]

Are they gay?

[Commentator/Analyst]

People literally, to the point, have made

[Reporter/Correspondent]

comments that they are like, there's no way. This isn't a romantic relationship.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

It used to really bother me. I was recently divorced. And there was. The National Enquirer did a story about that's the reason for the divorce. Because they're secretly gay. Number one. If we were gay, we would tell you, because, believe me, there's nothing wrong with it. It's just.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on, stop. If they were gay, they'd tell you, because we know for a fact that all gays always tell everybody that they're gay. Give me a break.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

We were gay. We would tell you, because believe me, there's nothing wrong with it. It's just. I prefer a man. I prefer a man.

[Adam Curry]

A man.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

So we would tell you. And then I would say to her, you've got to say something on your show. Because it's hard enough for me to get a date on a Saturday night, and now people think I'm a lesbian. You've got to say something. And she said, no, we should just leave it be. I said, no, you've got to say. She said, no, just leave it alone. Leave it alone. So, well, that's fine for you to say. You have somebody. I don't. So it used to really bother me. And now even today, there's still people that say, well, you know, the truth is, I don't care. But we do have a very unique bond. I got in trouble once when I said you know, because I'm single, alert and available. I said if I could meet a guy that was like Oprah, I'd be done. And then people took that all out of context, as they often do. I mean, I said, you know, when I died, like to come back as one of her dogs. They travel very well. Alex Cashmere. Private planes. Sign me up.

[Adam Curry]

There you go. It's official. There's nothing to see here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I find it peculiar you'd bring in this gossipy clip.

[Adam Curry]

I thought it was fun. This is the one thing everyone's always. Come on. Gossipy clip. I'm sorry. Bring back the lady with the Andrenochrome. Bring, bring back that, bring back that four part series, please.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's a little. Here's a little clip. Who is this? I think this. I don't know if Trump is doing a goof or what's the deal, but why are they replacing Tulsi Gabbard with this Bill Pulte character? He's got no, no. Anything to do with national security. You know about this? Bill Pulte replaces Gabber. I have a clip.

[Interviewee/Official]

Where's Bill Pulte? He's around here someplace. He's done a lot of great job.

[Adam Curry]

Federal housing finance chief Bill Polti, close confidant of the President, will now be the highest ranking intelligence official in the government. Despite having no experience in spycraft or national security.

[Interviewee/Official]

I see no, no evidence of any qualifications for that job.

[Adam Curry]

The move sparked bipartisan concern he's ill equipped to oversee the nation's spy agencies, including the CIA. The White House represented at the daily press briefing today by Medicare Chief Dr. Mehmet Oz.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good afternoon.

[Adam Curry]

Everybody dodged questions about his qualifications. You're a heart surgeon or a heart doctor? Yeah. Would you recommend a patient go see someone who isn't? You're asking the question with a premise that Bill Pulte is not qualified. I don't know anything about his situation. Democrats note Pulte used his perch at the Federal Housing Finance Agency to send criminal referrals to the Justice Department, accusing President Trump's political enemy of mortgage fraud.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

The idea that President Trump picked this guy.

[Adam Curry]

I fear to use all the information in the intelligence agencies to potentially go after Trump opponents. News of Pulte's appointment came as Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Capitol Hill once again called for the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. Today, the US Disabled a tanker trying to evade the American blockade.

[Military Official]

That has to open immediately and that has to open immediately.

[Adam Curry]

Immediately.

[Military Official]

In exchange, not for anything else. Other than us lifting the blockade.

[Adam Curry]

But he faced a tough grilling from Democrats. You keep telling us how we're winning this war. The president keeps saying, well, the war is over, annihilated. The war is not over. And yet the American people see how we're losing at the pump and with their costs. And yet this thing still hasn't been resolved. On top of serving as the acting intelligence Chief, Bill Pulte is set to continue leading the Federal Housing Fund Finance Agency and chairman of the government backed mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Yeah, this is. There's a strategy behind this, I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is it you think?

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is. Senate has to confirm this guy and they won't. So then Sarah Lynn Pickett.

[John C. Dvorak]

I agree with that.

[Adam Curry]

Sarah Lynn Pickett. And, and, and I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sarah. Oh, so I don't know. Tell me about this.

[Adam Curry]

Well, first as acting. I think he's acting now so he can do some stuff. So he can go nuts. He can throw all kinds of stuff out there. Anything he wants to say. Because whether he has the job or not, they see him now as the acting dni. So he's just going to be blah, blah, blah. He's going to be spewing all kinds of stuff. Some of it, it was probably true and so he won't get confirmed. And meanwhile, Sara Lynn Pickett, she's been the, the Assistant director. Is that assistant or deputy? Should we have. Is it deputy?

[John C. Dvorak]

Probably deputy.

[Adam Curry]

Let me see who she's. Deputy. She's been there for a couple years. She was a dhs. Before that. She is Department of Defense. Six years. She's a lawyer. So you know, you know how he always likes to have someone as a backup?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Then that actually does the job.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Let me see. Let me just check, make sure. Deputy Assistant.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on.

[Adam Curry]

Someone else.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the robot.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I could, but I'm already doing it myself. Okay, let's ask the robot. Book of Knowledge, who is the current Deputy Director of National Intelligence?

[John C. Dvorak]

All right.

[Adam Curry]

Book of Knowledge is searching. Here we go. That's a tough one. According to the Book of Knowledge, Aaron Paul Lucas has served as the principal Deputy Director of national intelligence since 2025, though Bill Pulte has now been named as Acting Director of National Intelligence following Tulsi Gabbard's resignation. Aaron Paul Lucas. It has been written so. Aaron Paul Lucas. Did you look him up?

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Why don't you ask the robot who this other woman is? What she do?

[Adam Curry]

Well, let me find Aaron Paul Lucas first. Hold on a second.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I think it's just we've been distracted. By the robot?

[Adam Curry]

No, the robot. You called for the robot. The robot is.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Has.

[Adam Curry]

She is the assistant. Aaron Paul Lucas is the deputy. I believe deputy is above assistant. No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I would think so.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so Book of Knowledge, give me a brief bio of Aaron Paul Lucas. Let's see who this dude is. Because Trump always wants to have someone in the background who's going to do the real job. According to the Book of Knowledge, Aaron Paul Lucas is an American intelligence officer born May 18, 19, 1971.

[John C. Dvorak]

Spook.

[Adam Curry]

Who spent more than 20 years at the CIA as an analyst and operations officer. Oh, wait. For serving as station chief for a former Soviet country before becoming intelligence aide to Richard Grinnell and deputy Senior Director for Europe and Russia at the National Security Council. There you go, Major Spook. There's the real guy. That's the. That's the guy who's doing all the work in the background.

[John C. Dvorak]

Chief.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the. Behind the Iron Curtain.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. That's what you do. That's the person you get.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ye is a CIA stooge.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, he worked for Grinnell, the gay guy. So it's all part of the cabal.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's a web of deceit.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, it is a web of deceit. Little Updates on the $250 bill? I still got my eye on it. I know you're skeptical.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Could President Donald Trump soon be featured on a $250 bill? Well, the Washington Post says U.S. treasurer Brandon beach has pushed the Bureau of Eng Printing to expedite the process that would place the President's portrait on a new $250 bill. According to a mock up design obtained by the Post, the bill would also feature Trump's signature and a logo commemorating America's 250th anniversary. But even with Trump's backing, the bill would technically be illegal. So current law forbids anyone living to be featured on US currency. And that law goes back to 1866. Another law stipulates which denominations of US bills can be produced, and a $250 bill is not one of them. Trump allies on Capitol Hill are pushing legislation that would clear the way for the bill. But that effort has stalled in Congress. Beach reportedly called for the bill's design in anticipation of that legislation passing. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant echoed that at the White House briefing this week.

[Adam Curry]

So we have to prepare in advance.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

You can't draw something up the day before.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

But even if, if the legislation does pass, it takes years for bills to be designed Requiring coordination with the Federal Reserve, the Secret Service, and other partners.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it seems like they already designed it. It's already designed.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they just, they just said that they obtained a design. They said it in the report. PBS has obtained a side as Trump signature on his face. So I think they designed would be great.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nowhere. It doesn't matter.

[Adam Curry]

Trillion dollar loan, loan interest, free loan to America. It's a good idea. It's a good idea, but. All right. Okay, you're up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, let's do a little, little rant here from John Turley on free speech. I was kind of unaware. I mean, John Turley, the professor at Georgetown who's on Fox a lot. Very, very smart guy.

[Adam Curry]

He's a podcast, too. He's a podcaster.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, he's a podcast. So what? Everyone's a podcast.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Don't. Don't diminish our, our vocation, man.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no, but I'm not. But still.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're in good company. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. John Taylor, one of us. All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So here he is talking about free speech. I thought this was. I found this to be an interesting little lecture.

[Adam Curry]

There are two anti free speech movements that have coalesced. One is in Europe, where it has laid waste to free speech. Germany, France, England. Free speech has been eviscerated. And also places like Canada. The US Anti free speech movement began in higher education, that metastasized throughout the government. But this has all reached our shores now. The Berlin World Forum followed the remarks of Vice President Vance on free speech. And the EU was red hot. They gathered in Berlin and it was the most anti free speech gathering I've ever been part of. There's only two of us from the free speech community and they are committed. And you know, Hillary Clinton was there and she really fueled the anger. I mean, she. When Twitter was purchased by Elon Musk, she called on the EU to use the infamous Digital Services act, which is one of the most anti free speech pieces of legislation in decades. And she called upon the EU to use the DSA to force the censorship of American citizens. Force people like Musk to censor. It's extraordinary act by someone who was once a presidential candidate in the United States.

[John C. Dvorak]

But they are committed to.

[Military Official]

To it.

[Adam Curry]

And after the World Forum, they further globalized this effort and they are threatening companies like X with ruinous fines unless they resume censoring American citizens. Yeah, I think this is a little rant he did about a year ago or so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, he's been ranting about this for a while.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. What I'm kind of.

[John C. Dvorak]

I didn't know about the Hillary thing. I didn't realize she was such a bad actor.

[Adam Curry]

What I'm curious about is what is this free speech community? He speak. How come we're not members of the free speech community? We are, but it sounds like there's a club. Nah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's like it's set up like

[Adam Curry]

Communist party along those lines. Here's what the EU is doing. Say hello to Quant, Move over Google.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Hello, Quant Quantity. That's the European Parliament's new default search engine. Replacing a tool so ubiquitous it's become a verb. Never mind that the French service has a modest 6 million monthly users. It's a symbolic part of the EU's push for tech sovereignty.

[Adam Curry]

Today we simply rely on non EU

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

providers for over than 80% of our digital products, services and infrastructure.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

And this is a huge problem for

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Europe's security of supply.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

And this has to change. The long awaited tech sovereignty package includes a new CHIPS act to boost supply and demand for European made semiconductors, a new law on cloud computing and artificial intelligence to build more data centers, a push for the public sector to use more open source software to ensure greater control, Linux strategic roadmap for digitalization and AI in the energy sector that powers data centers.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

We need to integrate digital infrastructure in

[Adam Curry]

our energy system in a sustainable way because there can be no digital sovereignty without energy. Yeah. Okay, so they're, so they're pushing the new search engine Quant, which when you say it in Dutch sounds Kunt. It doesn't quite sound as good. Quint, this is dumb. I don't think this is a very smart thing. And all the parliament has to use this search engine which gee, they have to use.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is. They can't use Google.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, they have to use Quant.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why?

[Adam Curry]

Because it's, you're, you're using some of

[John C. Dvorak]

the AI systems like you're helping the enemy.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no. They have to use European stuff. The quantity Quant. Hey, I got a great name because it, you know, it's, it sounds futile.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm going to start doing some searches on and see how, what it gets me.

[Adam Curry]

Can you get onto Quant? Can you even use Quant?

[John C. Dvorak]

I could get on the quant, I'm sure.

[Adam Curry]

Get on the quant. Well, here's something as I, as we start to get a little closer to wrapping here that we knew, we knew this five years ago. In fact it's the whole reason I'm not dead. And Theo Vaughn had McCullough on. We hold McCullough in high regard. I'm a little weirded out by his

[John C. Dvorak]

commercialization of himself, his pharmaceuticals. Hi, people. You should buy my pills. I have the Jaquac Incorporated pills. You take these pills and all your ills are gone.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'm a little weirded out by that. But here's the Auvant. I think what Theovon is trying to do, he's trying to get McCullough to tell him that Covid was bioengineered so that it would kill everybody except the Jews.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was there anybody who was immune to

[Adam Curry]

like any genetics or demographics or cultures

[John C. Dvorak]

that were immune to COVID 19?

[Adam Curry]

There were a few papers indicating that children were largely immune. Immune that they had a lot of cross exposure with other coronaviruses. Almost no serious cases in children. There was an occasional child with cystic fibrosis or some problem who got really sick. But children largely immune. School teachers because they have so much. There was no significant spread of serious illness from children to the school teachers.

[John C. Dvorak]

But no.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Was there any like, was there any

[Adam Curry]

like a Norwegian person couldn't get it

[John C. Dvorak]

or was there like somebody from Zimbabwe? Like, was there any like for a second, if you recall when this thing first broke, there was the thesis that the Han Chinese in particular were either not going to get COVID 19 because they were. The thing was designed so they wouldn't. It wouldn't attack them. Or on the other hand, it was designed to kill all the Han Chinese and it would attack them. And that's the reason that the Chinese shut. Shuttered the country. Pretty much. Remember that. The Han Chinese rumor.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And I also remember that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's what this is just an extension of that.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I think what he's going for is when Kennedy said RFK Jr. That is, he was saying that Ashkenazi Jews couldn't get it. You remember that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I remember that. Yeah. That was another. Which was an extension.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of the same thinking. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So when I hear Theo Vaughn, who we know is out of his gourd about Israel being the fault of everything and controlling everything, and he's saying, well, how about Norwegians or how about Zimbabweans? Or how about. There's got to be. I don't want to say it, but you know what I'm going for McCullough.

[John C. Dvorak]

But no.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Was there any like.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was there any like a Norwegian person couldn't get it or was there like a. Somebody who. From Zimbabwe?

[Adam Curry]

Like, was there any like, there's one adult group you're going to laugh. But there's one adult group but no specific ethnicity or culture. But do you know what group it was?

[John C. Dvorak]

Bookers, you're going to laugh.

[Adam Curry]

Smokers.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Smokers.

[Adam Curry]

They got it. Very mild cases and they don't get long.

[John C. Dvorak]

Covid.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Nicotine baby smokers mean a level of nicotine in the bloodstream. They actually smoke frequently enough. Blood nicotine blocks the spike protein as it's interfacing with the nicotinic acetylcholine receptor. Smoking blocks the spike protein. It's amazing. I thought smokers were going to go down.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, who knows now then all those

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

years of this, all those smoking advertisements

[John C. Dvorak]

ended up probably saving people's lives 40 years later.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Well, you know what we use now?

[Adam Curry]

Use. We use a nicotine patch.7 milligram patch even in non smokers to help them through long Covid. We use it in addition to the McCullough Protocol. Yes. Which you can get@mccullough protocol.com. get your 7 milligram patch, everybody. It's only $25. Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's kind of what bothers me about the McCullough Protocol and Dr. Drew and all the wellness company.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's the one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is that whatever they're selling, if you do the proper search for whether it's a parasite cleanse or whatever it is, there are alternative companies with the exact same product. Exact same. There's one, I forget the one that Bongino was pushing, which was an alternative product. But they're half the price. The Wellness Company and Dr. And McCullough and Dr. They're ripoff artists. It bothers me to an extreme that they're overpriced.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is, I think the wellness company, which a lot. They've sponsor a lot of podcasts

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

and

[Adam Curry]

they seem to me they just feel a little sketchy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they're sketchy. They have the. It's not unusual what they're doing because there's other people doing it. Except for the fact that they're. Because they got all these brand name characters working there.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

The prices are 2x. It's ridiculous. You know, do some research on these things and then find the alternative that's cheaper.

[Adam Curry]

You know, I got a lot of emails about that pill you talked about on the last show. You must have received some emails about it. Retribution or whatever it was.

[John C. Dvorak]

Retribution.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Everyone's emailing, everyone emailing me saying, oh, well, you know, that's just a peptide and you can get that, you know,

[John C. Dvorak]

oh, the peptide nuts. My son is one of Them.

[Adam Curry]

We got a lot of peptide people out there. Yeah, I. I'm skeptical about the peptides.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you might as well be.

[Adam Curry]

Ret, ret. Retrutite, Retro.

[John C. Dvorak]

Retro.

[Adam Curry]

Do you. Do you. Have you even. Have you done any research into the peptides?

[John C. Dvorak]

My son, again, is the peptide expert in the family, so I'll defer to him if I have a question. But no, you see, claims there's a good facial cream that's got a lot of peptides in it and keeps you younger looking. And you can various peptide pills do this and that and the other thing.

[Adam Curry]

But, you know, isn't the GLP one. Isn't that a peptide?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. You're asking the wrong guy. I defer to my son.

[Adam Curry]

I'm pretty sure it is. I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, ask the robot.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, but you always go.

[John C. Dvorak]

You always did give me a big sigh when I asked for your robot to get involved with the show and it's your robot that you put on the show on purpose.

[Adam Curry]

The sigh and the eye roll that you can't see is because I was hoping that you would have the answer because this is.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not a peptide expert.

[Adam Curry]

Book of knowledge.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not Clavicus or whatever that guy is.

[Adam Curry]

Clavicus.

[John C. Dvorak]

That guy.

[Adam Curry]

Claudius. Book of knowledge. Is GLP1 a peptide? All right, here we go. Answer me. According to the book of knowledge, GLP1 is indeed a peptide of 30amino acids produced by the differential processing of proglocaccon. Okay. Thus what it has been written. What you want?

[John C. Dvorak]

Problo cac. What did he call it?

[Adam Curry]

Proglucaicon. P R O G L U C A G O, N. And okay, since. Since we're discussing that, I think I. Yes, I have a clip about that.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

The Washington Post has an interesting look at scientists examining the impact of GLP1s on the brain. A University of Colorado study that looked at brain scans of women who had taken GLP1s found an increase in brain regions that are involved in attention and processing important stimuli. One leading theory as to how and why this is happening is that the drugs might target inflammation in the brain. Brain.

[Adam Curry]

No, I know what this is. You take the GLP one. You vote Democrat. I know what's going on.

[John C. Dvorak]

That would make sense.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'd love to have some information about peptides on the next show. If you happen to see JC and he feels like, okay, talk your head off.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not like. It's like a whole show of discussions about peptides, but let's Do. Let's both do. I'll tell you what, okay, let's both do a deep dive. A deep dive Peptides, and then give it two shows so we can spend some time letting it, you know, simmer. And we'll get some input from some of our. We have people out there who are peptide nuts. Peptide people that will send us, give us links to clips that may be useful.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then we'll roll out and we gotta find some peptide skeptics.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Peptide people, now is your chance. This is what makes you great. This is what makes the no Agenda show great. Because we have more producers and they are in fact, the best producers we have.

[John C. Dvorak]

I talk to people about it. We have about just around a million, just under a million people that listen, this is a population of a very large city and this is larger than the cities that Trump's gonna be giving money to. And cities have, they have people who die, people who are born. We have all these things and they have. We have doctors, lawyers, firemen. We have everything. This is city. And so we can do. So when we ask for peptide people, there's got to be 25 people out there that are peptide nuts.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they've already, 20 have already emailed me about this one peptide that you brought up. And I would say 95%, like it's the best thing ever. And you need to get on this peptide. Meanwhile, I'm, I'm taking.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't even remember the clip.

[Adam Curry]

It was your Eli Lilly clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, about the new weight loss product.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Lilly. Let me see. Next. Yeah, the next gen. Here it is. The next generation of obesity medication is getting closer to reality. Eli Lilly is studying a new drug. Test results show it's more powerful, even more powerful than the obesity shots and pills already on the market. NPR pharmaceuticals correspondent Sidney Lupkin is here to tell us us about it. Good morning.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Good morning.

[Adam Curry]

I'm so glad you're the one who's going to pronounce the name of this new drug. What is it?

[Reporter/Correspondent]

The new drug is called retatrutide. It's a weekly injection, just like Wegovian

[Adam Curry]

zepbound, but it's a little different.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Wegovian Zeppbound Target the GLP1 hormone. This new drug works on three hormones.

[Adam Curry]

GLP1, GIP and glucagon.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

And that makes it more powerful.

[Adam Curry]

When you say more powerful, you got to sell me because I have seen the results, results in human beings of the existing drugs. How powerful is it?

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Yeah. So Eli Lilly, the company that makes retatrutide says that in the clinical trial,

[Adam Curry]

people taking it for 80 weeks lost

[Reporter/Correspondent]

an average of more than 70 pounds

[Adam Curry]

because they were just a bag of bones.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Highest dose for comparison, patients taking the placebo over the same period, they lost five pounds. Those were the latest findings from its phase three clinical study. I asked Dr. Carolyn Frank.

[Adam Curry]

Right. So everyone that emailed me was saying, this is bull crap. They're just taking something that's already available. You can get it. It's a peptide you can get from the peptide dealer. Maybe we should become peptide dealers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Peptide. This is the last thing in the world I want to be is a peptide dealer.

[Adam Curry]

That's right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can you imagine the freaks who keep the pe. Peptide freaks. Hey, man, you got any, you know the whack a mole peptide? You know it makes your dick fall off. That one. I mean, what is it?

[Adam Curry]

That's the one I want. I don't, I don't know if there's a peptide for that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's a peptide for everything.

[Adam Curry]

Rogan's into peptides. He's big into that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, what a shocker.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's a young middle aged guy who's loaded on, on peptides. No, he's loaded on, on testosterone. Which is like, he's a little young for that, it seems to me. But okay.

[Adam Curry]

Joe is about, he's, he's about 58 now, I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Well, meanwhile, you know, I, I, I agreed to. Because, you know, we had the blood test like, oh, your testosterone is 300. It should be between 400 and 1200. I'm like, okay, I got low T. Whatever. All of my friends, you, you, you won't even know how good you can feel. I didn't know how good I could feel until I started taking testosterone. I said, okay, I'm gay, but I'm not going to inject anything. Okay. I'm not, I'm just not going to inject. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's two ways you can go with the testosterone. One is, you're right, there's an injection and you have to go every week and you got to get a shot that's no good. Then there's the various things you can rub on.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I have the rub on. So I got the rub on.

[John C. Dvorak]

You got some.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, and I got the rub. Listen to this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which one?

[Adam Curry]

What was the percentage compound? Oh, I'd have to look at it, but just listen to the results. So after six weeks or eight weeks, I go to. And I'm not, I do not like blood draws, but okay, I do the Blood draw. My Testosterone went from 300 to 200. It went down, it went down, it went down. I'm like, yeah. And then. All right, so we'll do it. We'll do another six weeks. It went from 200 to 168. I said, stop.

[John C. Dvorak]

First of all, your dick's gonna fall off.

[Adam Curry]

I said, first of all, I don't feel any better. I don't feel any worse. You know what? I got pimples. I had a pimple on my forehead, got one on my chin. Said, this is crap. And it was like, you know, I'm still an animal.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's. I think it's whatever.

[Adam Curry]

Who.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Who points.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is this a commercial product or something somebody blended for you?

[Adam Curry]

It's compounding with a.

[John C. Dvorak]

With a warring blender.

[Adam Curry]

It's compound.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here, drink this.

[Adam Curry]

It's from a compounding pharmacy. Here.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no.

[Adam Curry]

What do you mean no, no, no?

[John C. Dvorak]

You got to get Androgel or one of the.

[Adam Curry]

No, that's what the lesbians use. I don't want Androgel.

[John C. Dvorak]

The lesbians are on to it. They know what they're doing.

[Adam Curry]

I even said, well, shouldn't I use Androgel? No, we're going to compound something for.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, they're comp of it out of a. I can't keep using the same gag over and over. So they're compounding out of something that you're not going to like.

[Adam Curry]

What do you mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

That sounds like they don't know what they're doing. Well, if your numbers keep going down, how does that make any sense?

[Adam Curry]

But here's my question. Why would my numbers go down by 50% anyway? Within. Excuse me, within five months? Am I dying? Am I wilting away? Is my manhood diminishing before my very eyes? Am I becoming a girl?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's beside the point.

[Adam Curry]

I don't. I don't believe in any of this stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

First of all, your testosterone is going to naturally drop through the floor as you get older, period. Well, whether you like it or not, I've turned heavy duty beauty exerciser. And you're trying to build bulk. Your testosterone will naturally go up. You can do that to get it back up.

[Adam Curry]

Is it possible that somehow Tina, who I think is taking estrogen, that that's rubbing off on me and is counteracting it? Am I.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is this a versus? You'd have both.

[Adam Curry]

Why do my boobs hurt? What's going on?

[John C. Dvorak]

Sensitive nipples? Is that what's going on?

[Adam Curry]

I'm telling you, something is wrong. Reconsider it's all a scam. All of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's medicine.

[Adam Curry]

It's medicine. I'm rubbing this. I'm rubbing this stuff on my balls twice a day. This is.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're right. Supposed to do that.

[Adam Curry]

That's what I was specifically told. What? Where are you supposed to rub it?

[John C. Dvorak]

The nor.

[Adam Curry]

I'm telling you, this is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Somebody's playing a gag on you. I'm telling you, you're being punked. See if. Hey, I have an idea.

[Interviewee/Official]

Bill.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll bet you I can get this numb nuts to rub some of this on his balls. Let's see what happens.

[Adam Curry]

This is literally. You're telling me this is wrong? Yeah. What do you mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

With the testosterone therapy. That's the last place you're supposed to put it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is literally what I was told. On the testes.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Where. Where did you rub it?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you rub it one place. Got nothing to do with the testosterone. And rubbing it now. Hey. Oh, so, no, the Android gel is rubbed on the. On the forearm. Yeah. The forearms and the. And the biceps.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then if. And then across the stomach maybe. And. And it's and it just. It's absorbed through the skin. But you're definitely not supposed to put it on your face.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or your balls.

[Adam Curry]

It's even on the label.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but the label is a phony label. It's not like a commercial product.

[Adam Curry]

Rub on your balls. It says it right there.

[John C. Dvorak]

R, O, Y, D. I'm telling you, you're being punked.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, you know what? I believe you.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, I like to hear from some doctor out there who's got. Who does hormone replacement therapy about rubbing testosterone treatments on the balls.

[Adam Curry]

My whole email inbox.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is, by the way, the height of our show. We're reaching a peak here with this discussion.

[Adam Curry]

All right, everybody, with that. With that.

[John C. Dvorak]

We should get some donations for this vet. This vast knowledge.

[Adam Curry]

We are, in fact, feeding the book of knowledge with what we've got here. I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the. What do we have? The freedom, the free speech community. Everybody say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John c. D. Well, in the

[John C. Dvorak]

morning, you, Mish, Adam, Korean and more. Our ship sea boosting ground, feet in the air, subs in the water and damage. Nights out there in the morning, you

[Adam Curry]

trolls in the troll room, they come Joe's 1350, which has no bearing on donations. And no donations were nice today. I saw that. Thank you all for thinking of us. Did you throw out a sad puppy? I didn't see a sad puppy.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, there was no sad puppy.

[Adam Curry]

It's good.

[John C. Dvorak]

But, you know, but, but, but just bang the mic.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I know.

[John C. Dvorak]

So. No, but Mimi had a theory. Okay, so we had lousy donations last show. They were total, I think of 25 above 50 or 23 above 50. Very low number. And she says that she's noticed that the kennel in Port Angeles is full to the rim with a waiting list when we have bad donations.

[Adam Curry]

So it's a vacation thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it turns out that that last show was when everyone started to go on their vacations. The school was out, graduation was over, and people put their dogs in the kennel.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, well, that makes sense.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there's a kennel index that will predict our donations.

[Adam Curry]

How about this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Coincident indexes are very famous for working.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, but how about this? How about we use the kennel index and when the kennel is full, we take a day off? How about that? That's just a thought. I mean, come on. And we're working our butts off here. I'm excited. I'm exposing my inner secrets. I'm telling you what I do.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, yeah, it's embarrassing.

[Adam Curry]

It's embarrassing that it's not working. That's what's embarrassing. Anyway, hopefully you are listening to us. If you're streaming us live in a modern podcast app, you want to get one of these, stop with that legacy stuff. It's going to catch you eventually. We publish the show within 90 seconds. It's in your modern podcast app. And when we go live, the bat signal is sent. You hear it boom. Little new notification. You tap on that you're listening live if you can. And we are. Value for value. Yes. We don't sell you. We're not selling you any Peptides. We're not selling you any. Not yet. Not yet. It's still an option, but we're not selling them yet. Exactly. No. Instead, we decided a long time ago that the best way to stay honest and stay in the game and stay on our toes and never get lazy is to use a system we call the value for value system or value for value model. It's very similar.

[John C. Dvorak]

And work on holidays.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we work whenever we can. We're on holidays, we're on vacation trips whenever. We're always working. We couple shows. Well, I mean, you, you cowardly took several shows off. We had to bring Mimi in because, you know, had some kind of heart thing going on. But otherwise, you know, if. If you physically.

[John C. Dvorak]

I tried to broadcast from the hospital, but they didn't have a good WI fi connection.

[Adam Curry]

I know that if you could have, you would have. I know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know enough about you.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it would have been quite interesting. But you also didn't have your voice and everything. But as a part of that, this roller coaster international lifestyle, all we do is we just give you the best possible value that we can in our show. Every single time we do a podcast, which is twice a week, Thursdays and Sundays, then all we say is, hey, at the point where you're thinking, this is funny, I learned something. Here's an important thing you learned. Don't rub the stuff on your balls because it doesn't work. I mean, that by itself is worth the price of admission and the fact that we have thousands of producers who can also contribute value back to us with their time, their talent, their information, their skills. This is what makes us the best podcast in the universe. And we appreciate all kinds of things that people do. For instance, one thing people do is they prompt their. They prompt their. Their guts out by making artwork for us, which we then use for art in our MP3 file and in the podcast apps. And this was a nice one that we chose last time by Capitalist Agenda. Pretty sure this was a combo platter, minimum. At minimum, a combo platter of AI and Photoshop. Great piece with the curry Dvorak Consulting Group door, big pole sign on it, and there's a little robot with AI in his back trying to push it open. I mean, a lot of people who don't even listen to our show thought it was fantastic. Like, yeah, that's it. That is exactly what AI is. And we loved it. We thought it was a great piece. There were some other contenders, I think, not much. Do you remember any of the other contenders? Let me take a look.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like the one that I use for the newsletter, which is the Mechagodzilla or whatever the hell it was.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, I used that for the Bachelor signal this morning. That was good. But that. That was. That was something that came in after the show, I think. Yeah, we had.

[John C. Dvorak]

It could be.

[Adam Curry]

Let's see what we had.

[John C. Dvorak]

A lot of. A lot of lizards.

[Adam Curry]

I kind of like the sumo, but.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you like the sumo, but I didn't like it.

[Adam Curry]

No. And you said you. You said you couldn't read the curry

[John C. Dvorak]

and divorce too small. You always. About things being too small.

[Adam Curry]

Look too small to me was.

[John C. Dvorak]

Looks too small to me.

[Adam Curry]

Well, and that's why we didn't argue about it. It. What else was there?

[John C. Dvorak]

I kind of like the debit card a little bit.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Talk about curry Dvorak being small.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, no, I agree. I wanted to use it.

[Adam Curry]

We like our name up front. And, you know, a lot of people have been tweeting about this Dvorak micro dosing stuff. Are you familiar with this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, Dvorak. There's a botanical company that makes Dvorak gummies.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah. Is that weed gummies?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I was gonna send some to Brunetti.

[Adam Curry]

Are you getting a piece of that or.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's somebody named Dvorak. Does the name is not, you know, unusual. What is unusual? But it's not uncommon and it's in Tennessee or someplace. I don't know, I get. I've gotten two or three people saying, you. You got. You got any piece of this?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's my exact question.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, no, I got. I wish.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, sounds like a good deal. Well, you could have. We could have Dvorak Peptides. It's not too late to do that. So. Yeah, I think that was pretty much it. There was. There wasn't much else that we thought was really great. So thank you very much. Blue Acorn. Good piece. We enjoyed it very much. We also, as always, are very happy to thank our executive and associate executive producers. These are the people who support us with the third and final T, perhaps the most important one, the treasure. We thank everybody $50 and above. And we have a number of people came in strong today probably wanting to get in on that Red Knight pin, which means you not only become an instantite, but you also receive a handsome Order of the Heart pin, which is a nice pin and it comes in a dynamite packaging. It has a certificate of authenticity, of course. And today that goes to right off the top, Sir Lauren, who was already a knight, he is in Bruno, Minnesota, comes in with $1,033 and said, oh, this is. He's already. No. Is he already in Yell? He says, first donation. So he wasn't a knight yet. He calls himself Sir Lorne already. All right, Sir Loren de Douching in place. Oh, sorry

[John C. Dvorak]

you've been de douched.

[Adam Curry]

And says, first donation. My pal Adam hit me in the mouth during the scamdemic. I used to be so angry. Now I laugh a lot more. Thanks to you, Jingles Mac and Cheese. Screw your freedom. WTC 7 at the round table. Muffins and Moxi Soda. Thank you for your courage, says Sir Lauren.

[John C. Dvorak]

You slaves can get used to Mac and cheese and that and cheese. Macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together.

[Adam Curry]

Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese, everybody. Screw your other podcast. This is the best. Oh, your freedom. There we go. I got punked by. By your fake Arnold clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

So, have you ever had Moxie Soda?

[Adam Curry]

No, I have no idea what it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's a soda, very local. I think it's from New England or someplace. I've had it. This actually has a very distinctive flavor.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's good.

[Adam Curry]

Is it like kvass?

[John C. Dvorak]

Little bit.

[Adam Curry]

Because I like kvass. I like kvass a little bit.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, I think it has certain kinds of malty taste.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we have it here at the round table, so we can both have a red solo cup full of of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Carl Nagel in Hempstead. Hempstead. Hempstead, North Carolina. I'm sure it's pronounced fine. Hampstead, North Carolina. 103026ITM. Please name me Sir Crazy Carl of the Great Carolina Pine Forest. Karma for all NASCAR hot wife. Jingle, please.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

You've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, boy. Now we have. Oh, this is always nice. A very long note from Caddy Bones in rio Rancho, New Mexico. $1030.26. So this must be with the fees. And Caddy Bone says I recently wrote it made my husband, Jim, Sir J. Bones at posthumous Red Knight. Ah, yes. Remember, here's my donation to make. Make me his red dame. Oh, this is lovely. Since this is my first donation, I could really use a de douching. Yes, you can.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've been de douched.

[Adam Curry]

She continues. Jim and I started listening to your show together in 2014. We learned so much more from listening to you both than we ever Learned from the M5M. I'm not exactly sure how we first discovered your show, but once he started listening, I quickly glommed on and it became our thing. Thing every week. The word glam is a good word. It's a good word. Jim and I started listening to your show together in. I'm sorry. Every week, I counted down the days until Thursday and Sunday nights. It was our time to hang out with each other, you guys, and all of no Agenda Nation. We learned so much from listening to you. Thank you both for making our lives better and for keeping our amygdalas in good shape. Now as I tune in by myself, it reminds me of those good times. Not only you not only teach me something new every week, but you also bring comfort to a grieving heart. As I listen, I can still imagine him sitting here right beside me. And each week, I will continue to be out here, missing him and listening for the both of us. Sincerely, Sir Jane Jones, loving wife and future Dame, Caddy Bones. She would like her dame name to be Dame Caddy Bones. And for jingles, she wants Climate Gate and Fear is Freedom. And for the Round Table, she would love Dion's Pizza, which comes from Albuquerque, New Mex. We have ordered that for you. It's here. And some yellow Sobey energy to wash it all down. And we thank you very much, Caddy. See you at the Round Table.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

To the gate. To the gate. To the Climate gates.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Fear is freedom.

[Adam Curry]

Subjugation is liberation. Contradiction is truth. Those are the facts of this world. And you will all surrender to them, you pigs in human clothing. I hadn't heard that one in a while.

[John C. Dvorak]

Walter Ostler. Ostler. Ostler in Jerome, Idaho. $1,000. And he sent a note. Notes on a sheet of paper. You can tell it's a sheet of paper by the noise. Dear John and Adam, I've been a listener to the show since episode 728. I've always enjoyed your analysis. With this donation, I become a Red Knight of the no Agenda Roundtable. I wish to be knighted as Sir Zeppelin of the Snake River. Plain. No request for the Roundtable as the selections are more than enough to satisfy John. Have you seen the Pathfinder One airship flying over the bay this past year? No. Oh, if so, could I get a Zeppelin report to replace the old Zephyr Report? I have not seen a Z A zeppelin flying over the bay this year.

[Adam Curry]

No, I haven't seen one in a long time myself, actually.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

Plug.

[John C. Dvorak]

If anyone in Gitmo Nation needs the services of a cartoonist or illustrator, please visit my website.

[Adam Curry]

Walk.

[John C. Dvorak]

Walker. Walker. W A L K E R. What is it? Did I say Walter?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Walker Ostler. O S T L E R. W A L K E R O S T L E R dot com. I have a traditional style that eschews all caps. The use of artificial intelligence.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, all right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Call out Mark Ward for hitting me in the mouth, but never donating.

[Adam Curry]

He's a douchebag.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Douchebag.

[John C. Dvorak]

End of show request. A full version of the Russia Connection, sent in during Trump's first term and sung by yours truly. He did the Russian Connection song jingle. The original Karma. Keep up the good work, Walker.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

You've got Karma.

[Adam Curry]

I'll have to dig that one up. Might have to be for the next show. It's about time, though. Thank you, Walker. Sir Cliffy is in Morganfield, Kentucky. $547.45. And also sent in a note. Dear John Adam in the morning. You two are the best. Thanks for all you do. Please find the enclosed donation because John loves checks for more years. Please play Mac and cheese. Sorry I didn't have Mac and cheese.

[John C. Dvorak]

And

[Adam Curry]

should we do a different one? I'll do a different one. We'll do an Obama one and a little girl. Yay. Okay, we'll do those two.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Well, when it comes to the the holidays every year, well, I'm the hostess in chief. We host.

[Adam Curry]

That's no good. I don't like that one. Where's my other Mac and cheese? Mac and cheese earlier. Yeah, but we have a different one. We have. What's the Mac and cheese life? Mac cheese life. Don't we have the live in. Yeah, there we go.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Mac and cheese.

[Adam Curry]

Yay. There you go. I knew I could do it. Thank you, sir. Cliffy. He says thank you for your courage.

[John C. Dvorak]

David Chapman in Holly Springs, North Carolina 500. Thanks for the insights and deconstruction. In a world where independent thought has become a controlled substance. Keep the signal coming. As some of us still prefer thinking for ourselves, consider this my act of non compliance.

[Adam Curry]

Dennis Cato, Tampa, FL 333.33 oh, yes. So Ashley Slater sent me a note. We know Ashley.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

And she said that she often gets this tension headache which is like I had goes down the side of her neck for years she has tried to everything to get rid of it. She says I didn't believe it but I got some Manuka gold and it went away. And she's a happy customer. And this is from Dennis cadle of manukagold manukagold.com and they are happy to continue to support no agenda as they say. We'd rather put our money towards a cause we believe in. Right now we're giving away a free $25 jar of our relief gel with every purchase over $49. Also exclusive for no Agenda listeners, we're extending the 20% [e-mail] with the code ADAM20 through the end of June so you can get both the discount and the free gift. That's something we're only doing for no Agenda out of tremendous gratitude for all the support. Dennis Catle, Tampa, Florida. Love your product. Need a smaller jar to take with me on the road. Just a product suggestion.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right. Redux. You've done that a couple times now. Well.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I think it's good. You can remind him three times and see what happens. Yeah, and it's not a bad idea to have travel sizes.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you don't get stopped at the airport and shaken down with the goo. Looks like C3 or whatever that explosive is.

[Adam Curry]

C4.

[John C. Dvorak]

C4. I'm always getting the number wrong.

[Adam Curry]

Doesn't look like C4.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, if you don't know what C4 looks like, it could.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's true.

[John C. Dvorak]

And don't Name your product C4.

[Adam Curry]

No, this is not a product suggestion.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sir Michael of the Midwest and doctor of philosophy in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. 31415 ITM. Dude's name. Ben.

[Adam Curry]

2 PI5.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, Tupify is an authorized star language.

[Adam Curry]

He has a pronunciation guide. 2 PI Phi at the bottom.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where is it? Oh, it's pronounced. Put it at the top. 2 PI Phi. Okay. 2 PI Phi is an authorized Starlink reseller offer. We should be a Starlink reseller. Yes, you have Starlink.

[Tech Expert/Industry Insider]

It works.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we should have be reselling Starlink.

[John C. Dvorak]

Andra, Moose heads, junk jewelry, all kinds of opportunities.

[Adam Curry]

Peptides.

[John C. Dvorak]

Peptides offering turnkey installations, public static IPs, 24, 7, 100 US base support. Headquartered in Iowa, Specializing or no, my name is Jim. Yes, I am in Iowa, specializing in fixed wireless of all wavelengths as well as managed broadband and. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

The guy said this is a. This is a. An rs.

[John C. Dvorak]

The guy knows what he's doing here. And carrier grade dedicated solution dog. It's a dedicated solution.

[Adam Curry]

It's a carrier grade.

[John C. Dvorak]

Check out our page at. Get two PI Fi. This is number two with a PI Phi dot com. No agenda. Sir Michael of the Midwest and doctor of philosophy. Ah. P.S. is pronounced two PI phi. Two PI phi radians is a circle plus fidelity.

[Adam Curry]

All right. Nice, nice. Well, thank you very much. And now we move to our associate executive producers kicking it right off with $206.04 because he always adds the date to his $200 donation. It is from Bensonville, Illinois, Eli the coffee guy. And he says SpaceX is going public on June 12th. Valued at nearly $2 trillion. Overvalued IPO likely. Elon's pitching Mars in a market that doesn't even exist yet. Gotta hand it to him. Best salesman alive. Selling a dream priced like it already came true. Pump and dump or moonshot, We'll. Either way, somebody's gonna make money. But if you want a sound investment that's Fairly valued, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. A good cup of coffee Pays dividends. May I just say, best copy ever. Eli is always, always working on his copy. I have to give it to him. And he says, stay caffeinated. Eli, the coffee guy Guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. He has his own roasting curves and everything in.

[Adam Curry]

He knows what he's doing, man. Guy knows what he's doing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stefan Truckles in Sust Deutschland $200 jingle. No conflict. No conflict. Reverend L. Sharpton, please. You two are.

[Adam Curry]

There's no real conflict. And there's Linda Lupatkin from Castle Rock, Colorado. She comes in with $200, as always, and we thank her as well. Jobs, Karma. She's on. And she wants. And she says your Resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't. For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com Linda helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a clear story of leadership, results and impact. That's Imagemakers Inc. With a K. And Linda Liu. She is the dut duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

[Reporter/Correspondent]

Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

And last on our list, here is Bob just. Oh, Bob. Bob. Hello, Oregon. 200. I know you pronounce it Monmouth.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[Interviewee/Official]

With.

[John C. Dvorak]

He just has a little saying here. I'll quote it up from Bob. He says, we used to have kingdoms that were ruled by kings. Then we had empires that were ruled by emperors. Now we live in countries.

[Adam Curry]

Took me a second. I like that one.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think he's talking about the U.K. yes. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Correct. Correct. Thank you, Bob. And thank you to these executive and associate executive producers. As always, it works like this. You can donate any amount, anytime you want to know. Agenda only you can determine what value is. If you're able to Support us with $200 or more, not only do we guarantee. Read your note. But we also give you the elusive title of associate executive producer, which is a real title. You can use it anywhere. Hollywood credits are recognized, including IMDb.com $300 or more. That includes our Red Knights. That gives you an executive producership. Again, we read your note and they are valid. Where? Wherever Hollywood credits are recognized. Thank you. In both categories, associates and executive producers, for your courage. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Shut up, slave.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shut up, slave.

[Adam Curry]

And here's the rest of our list. $50 and above. At the $100 level, we have Baron Latican from Houston, Texas. Thank you very much. John Fitzpatrick, also $100 from Heber Springs, Arkansas. He says, Did y' all forget the 50 to 199 producers Sunday. What? Did I. No. We almost had none. What is he talking about?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know what he's talking about.

[Adam Curry]

Countess Knight, Edmonds, WA. 100. And John Buell from Vista, CA. Also $100. $90 from Goonie in the Boon, Goonies, Tennessee. Thank you, Goony. Jason Shepard, Trinidad, Colorado. 80 and 76 cents. That's interesting. Didn't quite make the boob donation, which is 8008. And Sir Fast Eddie of Alameda, the island of boobs, came in with that. And he had a peerage update. After two years of boobs, I've become a baronet. I'd like to retain the title of Sir Fast Eddie of Alameda, the island of boobs. I'd like the F35 guy played after my title and tacos at the round table. Well, you've already. You're already enough night. We'll add the tacos, but I don't know how the F35 guy fits in. I'll see if I can find him. Actually, I probably can.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on.

[Adam Curry]

Where's the. Where's the F35 guy? F35 karma. I think I can add for you. There we go. F35 karma. You know what? Why don't I play that for you? Now you've got Karma and the OG boob man, Kevin McLaughlin. He is the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs. He's in Concord, North Carolina. 8008 donation. God bless America and melons. Teresa Andrews in Camarillo, California. 7533. Nico in Flissingen in the Netherlands. 57. Thank you very much. Bit of value back to you from tipoftheday.net oh, it's Nico Sime. Thank you, Nico. Dame Rita Sparks, Nevada. She's there almost every single show. 5533 ITM to you. Brian Furley, parts unknown. Double nickel on the dime. $55.10. Sir John, Omaha, Nebraska. Also double nickels on the dime. 55 from your favorite pool guy, Austin in Roseville, California. Andy J, Holly Springs, N.C. 51 and 50 cents. He's donating on behalf of his beautiful wife, Sarah. It's our 17th anniversary and I would like to give her the gift of de douching. Love you, baby.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've been de shooting douched.

[Adam Curry]

Sir Kubopedia in Wayzata, Minnesota. $50 and 12 cents. His eldest daughter begged him to donate for her 12th birthday back on May 23. Don't tell her I missed a donation day by a few. Love you, Gwen. Sir Kubo Pedia, Better late than never. Daniel, La Boy, Bath, Michigan. $50. Oh, we're hitting the 50s here. James Sharametta, Napanok, New York. Joe from Syracuse, New York, longtime listener. Hit my son in the mouth years ago. Now he's a huge fan. So Adam has seen the light and I'm praying for John's health. God bless. Foster Burch, New York, New York. Alex. Sir Alex Zavala from Kyle, Texas, now has an important job there in Kyle, the school district. Leslie Walker, Roseburg, Oregon. Eichi Kitagawa in San Francisco rounds out our $50 donors. We don't mention anything under 50 for reasons of anonymity. We see the 4999s and we thank you very much. Every single donor donation is appreciated. All you have to do is go to noagendadonations.com you can determine all by yourself what you want the donation to be because that is value for value. We can't determine what value something is to you. Only you can determine that. You can even set up a recurring donation. Any amount, any frequency. Noagendadonations.com. And at least we have two today. It's been kind of sparse on the birthday list. Sir Kublpedia, Happy birthday to his daughter gwen. She turned 12 years old on the 23rd. Happy birthday. And Henry Mackey. Oh, Henry. He celebrates on June 1st. So happy birthday in advance. And happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. And there he is, Sir Fast Eddie of Alameda, the island of boobs. He has continued to donate his his boobs off and he becomes a baronet today. And we say thank you very much and congratulations, Sir. Welcome to another step on your peerage ladder. Behold the Order of the Heart. Pure of purpose. Purpose right from the start. In the morning. Brave and smart. The Order of the Heart. Yeah, we got a lot of knights coming in for the Order of the Heart. We have special night rings and red heart pins for Sir Lauren, Carl Nagel, Caddy Bones, and Walker Ostler. Congratulations to all of you. You are now official knights and dames of the Order of the Hearts. Behold the Order of the Heart. Pure of purpose. Right from the stars in the morning. Brave and smart. The Order of the Heart. All right, we got. Well, we have a night to bring up. Well, actually, knight and a dame. So there's the blade. If you can grab yours, John, then we can get this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, here you go.

[Adam Curry]

Get that party going. That's right. Caddy Bones hopping up here. Girl, you are part of our family. And Carl Nagel, both of you have Supported the no Agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or more. And that means you join the very exclusive club of no Agenda Nights and dangers.

[John C. Dvorak]

What about Walker?

[Adam Curry]

I don't. What I know. Where is Walker? Well, Walker became a order of the heart.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, so did Carl and Caddy.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm just looking at what I was given.

[John C. Dvorak]

It doesn't have it because on mine it has two nights.

[Adam Curry]

Well, so walk. Okay, stop, stop, stop, stop.

[John C. Dvorak]

You didn't get the same note I got.

[Adam Curry]

I guess not. Let me double check.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's unusual.

[Adam Curry]

Let me double check. Hold on a second.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you don't have the note up?

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, because I put it in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's right. You'd have the robots do all the work.

[Adam Curry]

No, I put it into. No, I hand pay copy paste. And. Oh, she sent. Oh, Tricky Dicky. She sent two notes to me and the first one didn't have Walker there. Well, that's odd. Hold on a second. Let me put Walker. All right. All right. There we go, everybody. I'll edit that out. No one will ever notice the difference.

[John C. Dvorak]

Never had nobody.

[Adam Curry]

No one ever notices. They call me the Blade for nothing. Yes. Hop on up here, Carl Nagel Walker, Ostler and Caddy Bones. There we go. I'm very proud to pronounce KV As Dame Caddy Bones. Sir Crazy Carl of the Great Carolina Pine Forest and Sir Zeppelin of the Snake River Plain. For you, we have Hookers and Blow Red Boys and Chardonnay Muffins and Moxy Soda. Dion's Pizza for Albuquerque along with Yellow Sobey Energy. Oh, it's so lovely. Along with that Vodka Manila Bongit Suburban Sparkling Cider Nestworts, ginger oil and gerbils, breast milk and papa. And of course, we have the mutton and the meat. The three of you enjoy yourselves here at the Round Table. It's a. It's a good group. It's a fun group to be with. And why don't you grab your phone, go to noagenderrings.com and select. Select the wonderful ring that we have for you Night and Dame Ring. And when you get that, after you tell us the address and your ring size, there's a. A ring sizing guide on the website. It will be accompanied by a certificate of authenticity and of course, a couple of sticks of wax. Because they're signet rings. You can use it for your official correspondence. It looks great. It's a conversation starter at every single party. Thank you very much and welcome once again to the Roundtable, our brand new Dame and brand new knights. All right.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

The meetups is where you get the connection that always brings you protection. The people you meet at the meetups will be your first responders in any emergency. Today there is a meetup in Raleigh, North Carolina. It is the northern wake June fun times. Meetup kicks off at six o' clock in Saints and Scholars on Saturday, the first Ukrainian clogs on the ground meetup. This will be at 6 o' clock at the fat movement. And this is in Bila Cherkva, Kyiv, Kiev Oblast, Ukraine. I suggest you get there before Vladimir Putin obliterates the entire country. So and please, please, I don't care if it's just one person. Send us a meet up report from Ukraine. We desperately want to hear how many people showed up, want to hear that you had fun and get your server on that recording as well. Coming up this month, Boise, Idaho on the 13th. Franklin, Tennessee also on the 13th. Indianapolis, Indiana on the 14th. Charlotte, North Carolina, the 18th, Rotterdam, the Netherlands on the 26th, Fort Wayne, Indiana, 27th. The 28th is Longview, Texas. And then we go into July and wow, we have August, September, October. This stuff is filling up. You can find all of [e-mail] this is where you can just enter in your zip code or country, wherever you live and you will find out where the closest meetup is taking place. But you can also start one. It's very simple. All you do is just say hey, I'm doing a meetup and you select the place, you fill out the information, it gets put up on the website. Thank you sir Daniel. Thank you Mimi for always managing that and get that meetup going. They're fun, I guarantee it. Noagendameetups.com Always fun, always a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you won't be triggered on hell to lame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like a party.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. We still have John's tip of the day coming up along with our end of show mixes. But first it's time for some isos. I have four today. I'm loaded for bear. I'm ready to go. You want to hear all my, all my four? Because you've got, got. Oh you have the, the celebrity ones I see which, which are holdovers from the last show. I don't think you can beat mine today. I've got a lot of really good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I can hold these over one other show.

[Adam Curry]

Well, here we go. Let's listen to number one. Excellent job. Okay. Yeah, no, I enjoy that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's great.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Mm.

[Adam Curry]

Come on. Come on. They're getting better.

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

We got way too many eggs.

[Adam Curry]

Subtle. Subtle. And I think this one actually, this

[Reporter/Correspondent]

production utterly blew me away.

[Adam Curry]

It's a little bit of Heather from the Dark Horse podcast. Any of those you like, or do you think yours are better?

[John C. Dvorak]

I didn't like any of them except the eggs one. Maybe.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, let's try mine. Let's start with Joe Biden. All right.

[Adam Curry]

If I was still president, no agenda would be required. Listening. It's pretty good, man. That's pretty good. Can Obama top it? Let's find out.

[Interviewee/Official]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

I wish I knew about the no Agenda podcast back in the day.

[News Anchor/Reporter]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

The back in the day is almost perfect. It's hard. You shouldn't have done these two in one go. You should have thrown in like a loser. And you could have had two winners. If I was still president, no agenda would be required. Listening. Wow. I wish I knew about the no Agenda podcast back in the day. Which one do you prefer? Because they're both dynamics might.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think the Obama one is a little better.

[Adam Curry]

Really? Because I kind of like.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like them both. I agree with you. They're both. Why don't you run them back to back?

[Adam Curry]

No, that's lame.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm just saying it's a suggestion. Well, pick one.

[Adam Curry]

I want to pick Biden. I think.

[Interviewee/Official]

I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, Biden wins.

[Adam Curry]

Because, you know, Biden will be dead soon and we'll still have Obama.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right? It'll be better.

[Adam Curry]

All right, everybody, stand by. It's time for John's tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I'm cleaning out my office in anticipation of having to take a picture of it for the newsletter.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I ran into a product I forgot about. This was. This is something the Eastern Europeans use a lot of of. It used to be an era when we used to use iodine for. For. For cuts and bruises and gashes. And then we moved to mercurochrome, which was poisoning the public because it's mercury based. When I was a kid, my mom. Oh, you got. Put some mercurochrome on it.

[Adam Curry]

Mercurochrome.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think I probably. If I. If anybody should have mercury poisoning, it's me. Use mercurochrome. I have fillings with a lot of mercury in it. Them. Because where they used to do it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And also I used to play with mercury and turn. Turn pennies into dimes.

[Adam Curry]

As a kid you just played with mercury.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. You'd rub it on a penny, it'd go right into the penny.

[Adam Curry]

And how did you get a hold of this and. And how can you still be alive is the question.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it must be bogus. So the thing they used to instead of methylate methiolate took over from. And now it's either Neosporin or. Yeah, Neosporin, Bactine, I think first came into Neosporin. So what they use in Eastern Europe commonly. And good friend of mine who is visiting there says, yeah, you go in with your head, you get a cut, a big gash on you. And they said just put some of the green stuff on it. Just use the green, green stuff.

[Adam Curry]

The green stuff. And that was the green stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

The green stuff is a product. You can get it on Amazon, you can get it all over the place. And it's a dye. It's a dye called brilliant green. You should Wikipedia it. You can ask about it. It kills all gram positive bacteria and funguses. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

It has a drawback. I have used it.

[Adam Curry]

I wonder what the drawback is.

[John C. Dvorak]

The drawback is it's a green dye. Takes about a month for it to go away.

[Adam Curry]

And sometimes. Adam created by Dana Burnetti there you go. Noagendafun.com tips of the tipoftheday.net go get some green stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Brilliant Green is the name of it.

[Adam Curry]

Brilliant Green. Oh, man. And don't play with mercury. Kids, this is not a good idea. Do yourself a favor, don't play with mercury. End of show mixes. We have some just Baker, some MVP and Oysteinberg with an original tune which he played and recorded himself. It's dynamite.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he did. Next up on your no Agenda stream, that Larry show. Oh, this is episode 500. It's a big one for, for Larry. And he will be ranting about adult infants, America's biggest threat. None of those here on the no Agenda show. No siree. And we will return to your airwaves, your earbuds, your speakers, your car system on Sunday for another edition of your bi weekly media deconstruction on the no Agenda show. Until then, coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country where, man, the super El Nino is turning us into the new Napa Valley. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry

[John C. Dvorak]

and from Refinery Road, where the no Agenda podcast Instagram account is now an official Amazon influencer, I'm John Cdvorak.

[Adam Curry]

We'll see you on Sunday. Remember us@noagenda donations.com until then Adios mofos are who we hui and such. Green lights in the sky Trump saying very interesting while the normies asking why Spielberg got the disclosure day dropping June 12th aliens looking friendly but we know it's narrative wealth Roswell reruns Grush in the Capitol pushing the act Hollywood in the feds doing the same same old predictive pact Adam and John breaking it down second half gold is it limited hangout or other little greens getting bold Pigeons navigating livers Media's booming loud while the media spins the orbs is weather typical crowd no agenda family stay sharp never fall for the script we see the synergy baby it's a full on disclosure trim uap Spielberg on the screen full disclosure coming or is it just another scheme? They want you acclimated get ready for the reveal but the only real truth is value for value keep it real Hit that button right now Producers in the house IGM don't let the aliens down. O mackilon had a farm AI AI o and on this farm he had some servers AI AI o it was bleep bleep here and I bleep bleep there gpus, cpus, cables everywhere oh macky long had a farm a I a I o and on this farm he had some growth AI AI o it was crop crop here and I cropped crop there here I groped here I groped here I there I groped dropped the old mackie long had a farm a I a I o. Minutes go by the computer glow

[Political Analyst/Reporter]

Watching

[Adam Curry]

prompted art start to show I'm just longing for that cool clear data data data data cool clear data With a

[John C. Dvorak]

prompt I shape the scene just right

[Adam Curry]

but each iteration shifts all the magic that I lift and screws up what was tight I'm just longing for that cool clear data data data data cool

[John C. Dvorak]

clear data Keep on prompting constant friction Every reiteration brings frustration that the R generator's headed for slaughter Lord, I'm tired of the stupid changes Rearranging all the

[Adam Curry]

strangeness I'm just longing for that cool clear data data data Cool.

[John C. Dvorak]

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[Adam Curry]

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