1875 - "Sonic Thump"

Summary

No Agenda Show #1875 "Sonic Thump"
June 7, 2026
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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Main Theme / Episode Overview

In episode 1875, "Sonic Thump," Adam and John deliver another wide-ranging media deconstruction, focusing on election integrity controversies in California, government appointments, the latest crises in agriculture and AI, as well as cultural shifts from Hollywood to geopolitics. The entertaining and critical banter remains, with fresh rants about the omnipresent role of smartphones, the fragility of US infrastructure and media narratives, plus a host of lively listener contributions. The show's unique value-for-value economy and mission repeatedly surface, reinforcing their independent, crowd-supported ethos.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Catch-Up: Studio, Social, and Smartphones

• Adam reports from his house in Northern Silicon Valley, where home renovations continue.
• The official No Agenda Instagram account is nearing 5,000 followers, after which Adam will post a picture of his studio.
• Hilarity ensues about the prevalence of people glued to their phones, leading Adam to dub the iPhone "the Antichrist."
  • Adam: "I've determined that the iPhone is the Antichrist. Why not?" [02:24]
  • John points out the national security risk: “We are a vulnerable...when we have robots, you know, NPCs just roaming around looking at their phones.” [03:16]

2. California’s Voting “Voterama” Scandal

• Clips from Stella (The Stella Show) describe ongoing election fraud investigations, lengthy ballot counting (up to 37 days for mail-ins), and claims of ballots being delivered by helicopter.
  • "We have every single Californian and even Californians who have left the state are getting mail in ballots...It is incredible that there's no voter ID." [07:00]
• State of Daniel highlights suspicious vote drops, e.g., a 24k-ballot drop that inexplicably left a candidate’s vote total unchanged.
  • “All of the other candidates did gain vote totals. What are the odds of that? That, quite frankly, is impossible.” [09:15]
• Mainstream media, represented by "Miss Now," counters with the “no evidence” of widespread fraud, prompting critique from the hosts about legacy media's bias—frequent use of “Democratic” instead of “Democrat” party called out as more spin.
• Trump’s tactics: A meet-the-press segment shows Trump repeatedly claiming election rigging in California, clashing with the interviewer over demands for evidence.
  • Trump: “Look, all I have to do is…I listen to people and let’s see what happens.” [15:52]
  • John notes: “He was on the crooked theme, pounding home crooked. And then he switches it to credibility. That was a blunder.” [17:17]
• State-level legal developments: Discussion of the Supreme Court case (Watson v. RNC) about grace periods for mail-in ballots and possible future changes.

3. Supreme Court, Voting Infrastructure & Media Narratives

• Strong back-and-forth about California’s voting process, signature verification rollbacks (via SB75/SB2570), and contradictions between media reports and legislation.
  • Adam: “SB25 they mentioned…says you don’t have to [match the signatures] anymore…So what, how does this come into play?” [23:48]
• John: “They’re lying. Somebody’s lying.” [24:05]
• The guys riff on political influence and campaign finance, including mention of Xavier Becerra’s oil industry ties and campaign spending not guaranteeing election wins (cf. Hillary Clinton).

4. The Appointment of Bill Pulte as Acting DNI

• Trump’s appointment of Bill Pulte, a home-building executive, as Acting Director of National Intelligence is dissected with sarcasm and skepticism.
  • “No evidence of any qualifications for that.” — Adam [28:05]
  • The hosts theorize this is a “bull in a China shop” move meant to shake up the “deep state,” with “chainsaw weed whacker” tactics and a real intelligence veteran working behind the scenes.
  • John: “My friend, the NSA veteran Kirk Wiebe, once told me…first you need someone with a chainsaw weed whacker who’s willing to go in there and just tear everything down.” [31:36]

5. Government Appointments, DoJ, and Media Memory

• Critique of mainstream narratives about legal conflicts when personal lawyers become AGs, which, as John lists, has ample precedent from Washington to JFK.
  • John: “John F. Kennedy literally appointed his brother…His brother became Attorney General. Yeah. There’s no conflict there.” [39:13]

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6. Agriculture Panic: The Return of the Screw Worm

• Panic in Texas over the “new world screw worm” affecting livestock, with historical perspective from Texas Slim and media-generated fear (including threats to pets and even humans).
  • Adam: “This is…an op to collapse the herd even further.” [57:12]
  • John: “Now, there was two things. One, vaccine's gotta be coming. We gotta Have a vaccine for the screwworm. And the other one is...regulatory capture.” [44:52]
• Use of past and present (running animals through a poison bath vs. regulatory hurdles), concern over imported beef and economic impact (insanely priced Tomahawk steaks).

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7. Ukraine/Russia War: Escalation & Perception

• BBC coverage of major Ukrainian drone attacks on St. Petersburg—hosts critique the reporting style and lack of substantive nat sound.
  • John: "We have no net prompts. We have reward directly from a guy on the street who said, I heard some explanation. Murders.” [60:34]
• Summit of EU/UK leaders to discuss the ongoing conflict and peace attempts; Adam and John poke at the diplomatic pageantry (“terse letter,” wax seals).

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8. Iran Watch: Regime Resistance & Media Spin

• Status reports from Toosi YouTuber and NPR’s Yegina Torbati.
  • Iranian hipsters reportedly still organizing concerts and social life despite turmoil; Adam skeptical of authenticity—“She does a laugh tale before she uses the word book author.” [71:48]

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9. AI Industry: Bubbles, Token Maxing & Jevons Paradox

• In-depth breakdown of the state of AI in Fortune 500 companies, cost challenges (“token maxing”), and the quick inclusion of new IPOs (OpenAI, SpaceX, etc.) into major indices.
  • Token-maxing incentivized for performance evaluations, resulting in runaway costs: “We’re told hey, now is the golden age, so use as much as you can before it ends.” [79:39]
  • Introduction and mockery of "Jevons Paradox" to describe how increased efficiency leads paradoxically to increased consumption—a VC favorite, but perhaps a sign the model doesn't make sense.
  • Anticipation of a bubble burst, with local/desktop models potentially eating into centralized data center costs.

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10. Jobs & AI: How AI Monocultures Blackball Applicants

• Stanford study shows that centralized AI hiring tools are reusing applicant “scores” across companies, leading to systemic rejection for job seekers:
  • "It's effectively one score for 330 days for every company that you're applying to." [96:03]
  • Adam: “This is classic high tech way of saving money...Why burn tokens?”

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11. Peptides, Biohacking & Listener Boots-on-the-Ground

• Listener correspondence about peptide safety, sourcing, side effects, and the growing popularity of the “Wolverine” stack for fitness.
• Concerns regarding unregulated, non-pharma peptide manufacturing (esp. from China), lack of human trials, and risks of contamination or overdose—contrasted with anecdotal benefits.

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12. **Miscellaneous:

• Ebola/MPox: Ongoing outbreaks in Africa, US-Kenya agreements for treatment facilities spark protest; NIH-linked scientists caught smuggling bio samples.
• Insider Trading on Kalshi: George Santos controversy illustrates regulatory vacuums in betting markets.
• Pride Month: DC Mayor claims DC is the “gayest city in the world,” hosts query the claim.
• Tip of the Day: John recommends Gary Marcus’s substack for grounded AI skepticism ("...you will have a very grounded sense of where this is going, why it's no good, why it's going to fail, how it's going to fail, and all the rest of it.” [170:40])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I've determined that the iPhone is the Antichrist. Why not?" (Adam, 02:24)
• “We are a vulnerable...when we have robots, you know, NPCs just roaming around looking at their phones.” (John, 03:16)
• "[Election] is an absolute shambles, a humiliation for California. It is making our state a laughingstock here in America." (Steve Hilton via KTLA, 22:57)
• "SB25...says you don't have to [verify signatures] anymore. So...how does this come into play?" (Adam, 23:48)
• "My friend...Kirk Wiebe...said: first you need someone with a chainsaw weed whacker..." (John, 31:36)
• "This is...an op to collapse the herd even further." (Adam, 57:12)
• "Token-maxing...is the big term in Silicon Valley." (Listener, via Ben from Microsoft, 79:39)
• “Jevons paradox, man. Don't worry. When Jevons kicks in, it's all going to be great." (John, 85:08)
• "It's effectively one score for 330 days for every company that you're applying to." (AI Hiring Tools, 96:03)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:23] Adam returns to California; home renovation saga
• [01:32] Instagram studio challenge
• [02:24] "The iPhone is the Antichrist"
• [06:45] California voting irregularities - Stella podcast
• [08:44] State of Daniel: inexplicable vote drop
• [10:15] Trump on election integrity (Meet the Press)
• [21:05] Supreme Court, mail-in ballots discussion
• [44:52] Texas Slim & the screw worm panic
• [57:12] Media “op” to collapse the cattle herd
• [58:13] Ukraine drone attack (BBC World Service)
• [65:07] Protests in Iran (Tusi channel)
• [77:41] Token-maxing and AI costs in corporate America
• [82:44] Jevons Paradox – Silicon Valley buzzword for the AI bubble
• [96:03] Stanford study: AI hiring tools and “systemic rejection”
• [102:57] Listener boots on the ground: peptides
• [106:03] Ebola & MPox news
• [110:48] George Santos insider trading on Kalshi
• [113:37] DC Mayor: “Gayest city in the world”
• [170:40] Tip of the day: Gary Marcus’s AI skepticism

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Episode Tone & Language

• Irreverent, dry-witted argumentation and skepticism
• Frequent in-jokes and meta-commentary regarding media, politics, and their own show
• Candid on medical, political, and economic issues; emphasis on critical thinking and open debate; periodic self-mockery (“ancient boomers”)
• Proudly independent/value-for-value mindset (crowdsourced show, anti-censorship)
• Language is colloquial, conversational, and retains the personalities of both Adam and John

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Conclusion

"Sonic Thump" delivers an engaging, dense deconstruction of the week's media, politics, tech, and culture. Listeners are treated to a blend of news, humor, conspiracy-spotting, and expert skepticism about the narratives driving current events, from California's election mess and the artificial intelligence bubble to agricultural "ops" and the ever-present smartphone zombie apocalypse. The show’s participatory format and value-for-value culture remain at the forefront, with copious credits to listeners and extended shout-outs to contributors large and small.

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Transcript

[Adam Curry]

Oh my God, what a shocker.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, June 7, 2026. This is your award winning Gimbo Nation media assassination episode 1875. This is no Agenda. We've got voterama. And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley, where we've discovered the Antichrist. It's the iPhone. I'm John C. Devo. Correct.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's crack in the morning. Well, a couple observations right off the top here. One, you're coming to us from northern Silicon Valley, which means you're back home.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'm at the house.

[John C. Dvorak]

Excellent.

[Adam Curry]

There's still work banging away back there, working on the place.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait, wait, who. What do you mean banging? What happened? Why do you. Why did I have to.

[Adam Curry]

They read the. They're redoing the bedroom. There's a bunch of work being done on the house. Yeah, I'm making sure they don't wreck the place. That's why I'm here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is they. Is they Mimi or does she have a crew? Does she have a crew of Mexicans? Illegal immigrants?

[Adam Curry]

It varies.

[John C. Dvorak]

So what do they do? Well, first of all, welcome back. Good to have you back home. That's good news. Second of all, are we close to being able to see your studio?

[Adam Curry]

Well, you're talking about the challenge for people who go to the new Instagram no Agenda account, which is no Agenda podcast. Yeah, the official no Agenda account on Instagram. And once it gets to 5,000, we take a picture of the studio.

[John C. Dvorak]

How close are we? I'm sorry, I don't keep up with the Insta.

[Adam Curry]

I think we're around three.

[John C. Dvorak]

3,000?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow, that went pretty fast. Shouldn't we get. Should we be like, trending somewhere if we get that many followers in one go? No, we're not.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, those guys. Those guys are.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, not those guys.

[Adam Curry]

Just don't, don't. No, no, no, no, you don't. You know, these are fake anyway, so why would we put them on it?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's all fake. And what's this with the Antichrist iPhone? I mean, is this.

[Adam Curry]

I've determined that the iPhone is the Antichrist. Why not?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's possible. I mean, is it.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I see. I'm floating around. I'm seeing. I tell you, I like the. Yesterday went to the store and there's like people getting out of their car. They're looking at the phone as they get out, stumble out. Walking into the store. Always eyes on the phone. I don't know how people can navigate. I mean, it used to remember the early days, these phones we were banging into poles and walking, you know, over curbs and falling into manholes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, sure.

[Adam Curry]

They stop doing that. There's this new radar or some sense that phone has kept them from banging into stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, go ahead.

[Adam Curry]

Walking around with the phone and the same person comes out still looking at the phone. What is on the phone?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think it's the Antichrist. I think it's a national security issue. We are a vulnerable.

[Adam Curry]

You don't think the Antichrist is a national security issue?

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, fair point, fair point. It's just these people. I mean, we are very vulnerable as a country when we have robots, you know, NPCs just roaming around looking at their phones. That is a national security issue.

[Adam Curry]

And you spotted a number of years ago. Oh, you're the one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ten years ago, at least you spotted

[Adam Curry]

the fact that people are walking around with their phone in their hand. Yeah, you know, women mostly, but now men, too. Men and women walking around with the phone in their hand all the time.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. You know, we. We forget. We forget that this is happening. We kind of got used to it. You know, it's. It's so normal now. I mean, I'll. On Mondays, I go play chess with this guy. And so it means I park on Main street and I get out.

[Adam Curry]

Is this in the park?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I park on Main Street.

[Adam Curry]

No, I know you parked the car. Yeah, but I'm saying, is it in the park outside is a black guy? An old black guy?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's inside a Java Ranch. You know, your favorite Java Ranch? It's with Willie. That's why I play with Willie. And he was not a black guy.

[Adam Curry]

And.

[John C. Dvorak]

But just walk. And so I have to. I have to cross two streets, two traffic lights, and all you see is people walking with their phones, looking at their phones. It's everywhere. It's rampant, and we've kind of gotten used to it. It's a national security issue. And yes, if it is the Antichrist, but is it only the iPhone or is Android also the Antichrist?

[Adam Curry]

Well, obviously, it's the smartphone in general.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Because I see people looking at. They all operate the same. People are looking at them. They're carrying around. It's the same, you know. No, it's all the phones, all the smartphones.

[John C. Dvorak]

What are we going to do with it?

[Adam Curry]

Everything but a flip phone. And I'm not Even so sure about that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, you know, I had to give up on the flip phone because they made it impossible to communicate. If you don't have rcs, then you can't communicate with the Antichrist people on the. On the iPhone.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but it's not people communicating with each other so much as they're just.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no, I still.

[Adam Curry]

In time.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I understand what you're saying, but if you have a flip phone, it used to be doable when everything was still kind of over SMS or, you know, it's like you had mms. Remember this protocol?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So someone will send out a video to me and it comes in like, you know, like a little postage stamp because you can't see that because everyone's doing it over IP. All the iPhones and the iPhones got connected to the, to the Android with rcs. And, you know, it was really Apple that screwed all this up. They had their own little protocol. And then, you know, you couldn't participate. Can't be in a text group anymore. And if it actually worked, then people yell at you. Who's the green bubble? Who's the green bubble? Who's ruining my text group? Yeah, that's me now. Anyway, so how's that voting going in California?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I do have a clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, please. What's your clip?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we got Stella, one of our podcast friends, Stella the Stella show. And she talks about the cal voting situation.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

U.S. attorney Billa Saleh says his office has multiple election fraud investigations now underway in coordination with the FBI as California officials are still counting from this week's primary. And it could go on for weeks and weeks and weeks. What is your reaction to this? Because I know you're following it very closely. I mean, this is your lane. This is what you do. It is about time that all eyes are on California's election process. And we're looking at 37 days to get counted for our mail in ballots. And it's just about time. And I'm really appreciative of Bill Asali. You know, he was a former assembly member and he has always done everything he could to possibly bring some course correction to our state. It's. It's incredible. You know, I ran for state assembly and so I looked at our voter rolls. People were registered to vote at empty parking lots and old houses and buildings. It's about time that we start cleaning this mess up because we deserve to be represented. And you know, California is such a beautiful state, but we've got. We've got a problem. So there's a fighting chance right now where voting infrastructure that the Democrats and Gavin has created here allows for this. We have every single Californian and even Californians who have left the state are getting mail in ballots. You can register same day and get a provision ballot. It is incredible that there's no voter id. We're seeing helicopters bringing in ballots. Why is this even happening? Gavin and actually had the nerve to go on to his public platform pass SB73, saying that the signatures on mail in ballots no longer have to be verified. So you know, what exactly does that do that enables cheaters to happen?

[John C. Dvorak]

So they're really bringing in ballots with helicopters.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there was a bunch of choppers coming in.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's great.

[Adam Curry]

Dropping off. Dropping off ballots by the truckload.

[John C. Dvorak]

Talk about an airdrop. Well, since you played Stella, let me play State of Daniel. There's one of our podcast friends. Last night there was a drop of about who's not gay?

[Adam Curry]

24,000 ballots and Spencer Pat did not

[John C. Dvorak]

get a single one. Let's take a look at the results over here. So last night you can see before the drop it was 308, 878,000. After the drop, 333, 712,000. And as you can see, Spencer Pratt did not gain a single vote.

[Adam Curry]

He still had before. And after the drop, 86,323 mean all

[John C. Dvorak]

of the other contenders here, all of the other candidates did gain vote totals. What are the odds of that? That, quite frankly, is impossible. By the way, when that 24,000 vote drop came in, there were also drops

[Adam Curry]

that included the votes for governor.

[John C. Dvorak]

What are the odds here that even

[Adam Curry]

Steve Hilton would be gaining votes overnight,

[John C. Dvorak]

but none for Spencer Pratt?

[Adam Curry]

Are people not voting down?

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Are they just voting for governor and they're not voting for LA's mayoral race? I get that there are many people

[Adam Curry]

voting for govern who would not be

[John C. Dvorak]

able to vote in this mayoral race. Like, obviously if you live in the

[Adam Curry]

northernmost part of California, you would not

[John C. Dvorak]

be eligible to vote for LA's mayor. But you're telling me that not a single person who cast the ballot in those 24,000 votes in LA, not a single one voted for mayor, but they voted for governor. All of this just does not make sense. That's almost like the election where you saw the counts go down live on tv. That was great. That was fantastic.

[Adam Curry]

Somehow negative votes for Trump during that Biden administration election.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's move from our podcast crew to miss now.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

President Trump is sticking with the playbook election denial. The President hopped on truth social as he does on most nights, to claim

[John C. Dvorak]

without, like, the election denial.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Then said Democrats were, quote, trying to steal the primaries for California governor and LA mayor. He offered, surprise, surprise, no facts to support. No facts, no evidence claim pointing only to a predictably slow counting process in a state.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait a minute. Is this. Now let me ask you a question. You're in California. You're the man on the scene, boots on the ground.

[Adam Curry]

I'm the boots on the ground.

[John C. Dvorak]

California is this predictable, this slow counting process, Is this something that always happens with California?

[Adam Curry]

It's been getting progressively worse ever since Newsom got in office. It never used to be this way. In fact, there was a couple of memes floating around showing them finishing the vote count within two or three days of the election. And that's been stretching and stretching, largely due to the fact that Newsom decided to. Newsom end up. You know, you can't just blame Newsom. It's also the state legislature. They're the ones who create the bull crop. And they decided to send everybody. Whether you ask for. You don't have to ask for absentee ballots. Years ago, if you wanted to vote by mail, you had to request.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. You had to request it.

[Adam Curry]

You get a package.

[John C. Dvorak]

A package.

[Adam Curry]

If you signed this package and sent the package back. Yeah. Then they send you an absentee ballot, right? No, everybody gets an absentee ballot.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

We continue for his claim pointing only to a predictably slow counting process in a state with a huge volume of mail in voters, which has always been the case. And he has always known. After all, he's now been in politics for more than 12 years. Joining us, former Democratic congressman for New York and senior advisor for Vote Vets, Max Rose. James Sample still with us as well. All right, so.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, is this Katie Turk? Turk.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Turk.

[Adam Curry]

It's gotta be. It sounds like she's so snide.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, that's what you do.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Very slowly, Max. Very slowly. This has always been a very slow case.

[John C. Dvorak]

How much? It's always been the case. Oh, what? I got a boots on the ground here that says that's not true.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

They do count very slowly, Max. Very slowly. But this has always been the case.

[John C. Dvorak]

How much.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

How much traction does he get on an accusation like that?

[Adam Curry]

This is what Donald Trump always does.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Isn't it?

[Adam Curry]

It's horrifying because I think really, the Democratic Party has turned. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm so tired of these people saying Democratic Party. We really have to keep calling this out because it just. It makes it sound like, oh, they're Democratic, but they're not Democrat Party. Come on, dude.

[Adam Curry]

Amidst the. I think really, the Democratic Party has turned itself in the right direction in terms of its willingness to go on the offense, its willingness to really use the power at its disposal. It's been a change right direction on this front, though. I still think it's a blind spot that somehow there's this thing about Donald Trump where we're like, you know, yeah, 2020 did the steal January 6th. The whole thing. That won't happen again. There is zero doubt in my mind that he will be using this language and attempting to use the powers at his disposal for this.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

So he said they're under investigation. The California vote process is under investigation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Under investigation.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Should we take him at his word that it's under investigation and that something might be happening at doj?

[John C. Dvorak]

We should take him at his word that he wants there to be an investigation, and we should take him at his word that what he wants from DOJ he typically gets. Yes, of course he gets that now.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, wait, wait. We should take him at his word that he wants there to be an investigation. When did he say he wanted. That's not his words.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Well, how can we take him at his words when they misquote him?

[John C. Dvorak]

This whole station is set up to do defend the Democrat Party. I mean, we know this.

[Adam Curry]

That's not. The station is pathetic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, so this morning on Face the Press. Spank the press. Meet the Press. Meet the Press.

[Adam Curry]

Spank the press. That would be a great show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wouldn't that, though? Can you imagine who would host? Well, Manhans Welker is hosting Meet the Press.

[Adam Curry]

Well, she'd be perfect. She's got the hands for it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Have her spanking the press. So she was in Wisconsin interviewing the president and things did not go well for her.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Just to be very clear, there's no evidence of what you're saying.

[John C. Dvorak]

No evidence.

[Adam Curry]

No evidence.

[John C. Dvorak]

No evidence.

[Adam Curry]

Listen to me.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Let's talk.

[Adam Curry]

There's tremendous evidence. There's nothing but evidence. The election was rigged. It was a dirty election. And it's happening again right now in California. Right now in California, right now. It's. Look at, look at what's happening to that. It's the report doing well in California. It's. No, they're not. They're dropping fast because it's a rigged election. Let me tell you. It's four days and they aren't even close to coming up.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

That's how they know why they're doing

[Adam Curry]

that, because they're Cheating on the election.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

There's what, do you have evidence to support?

[Adam Curry]

I have to do is. Look, all I have to do is.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

That's not.

[Adam Curry]

And I listen and I listen to people and let's see what happens.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

But, sir, that's not evidence. You think it's appropriate. That's how they count the votes.

[Adam Curry]

You think it's appropriate that they have an election and five days later they're nowhere close to picking.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

State, local officials acknowledge they are slow. They're urging.

[Adam Curry]

No, they're crooked.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

They're urging the votes to be counted.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's how they're crooked.

[Adam Curry]

Just like you're crooked. Your press is. Is crooked.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, here we go. You're crooked. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Here we go.

[Adam Curry]

No, they're crooked.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

They're urging the votes to be counted quickly. That's how they vote.

[Adam Curry]

Crooked. Just like you're crooked, your press is crooked. And Meet the press is crooked.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

To be fair, I'm not crooked.

[Adam Curry]

But let's really. When you play right into their hands.

[John C. Dvorak]

To be fair, Mr. President, I'm not crooked. To be just. To be fair now. Let's be fair now. I'm not crooked, Mr. President.

[Adam Curry]

That is. That is a great.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is that great?

[Various Guests/Reporters]

To be fair, I'm not crooked.

[John C. Dvorak]

But let's really.

[Adam Curry]

When you play right into their hands.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Let's continue.

[Adam Curry]

You read either crooked or you're stupid. You play right into the hands. You know that these elections are rigged. Your network knows that they're rigged. You know that I won an election in a landslide And I got 94% bad press. But, Mr. President, you know why I got that? Because you have no credibility.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

But you've never presented evidence.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, that's wrong. Hold on, let her finish.

[Adam Curry]

That was a mistake he made.

[John C. Dvorak]

What did he say?

[Adam Curry]

He says. He says I got a 94%. I don't know what he is. He's promoting himself. He says, and then, no, you know, you got 94% bad press after being winning in a landslide, as he calls it, not 93. And he says, why? Because you have no credibility. No, no. He was on the crooked theme, pounding home crooked. And then he switches it to credibility. That was a blunder.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he's about to rect.

[Adam Curry]

Elections are rigged. Your network knows that they're rigged. You know that I won an election in a landslide And I got 94% bad press. But, Mr. President, you know why I got that presented? Because you have no credibility.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

But you've never presented evidence that it was rigged. Let's keep talking About. I want to talk about Todd.

[Adam Curry]

You have more evidence. There's more evidence than ever presented. Let's talk your elections in this country, we're like a third world country. Your elections are crooked and you're crooked. At least the press is crooked. And so is ABC And CBS and CNN, Mr. President, one sided, crooked network. So let's call it quits because I've had enough. Thank you, darling. Have a good time.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he walks off the set. And then this is the best part. So the, you know, there's Wilkerson.

[Adam Curry]

No, hold on. What now? I didn't get to see this because it was, you know, past my bedtime. I was still getting up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah,

[Adam Curry]

I understood. He. The whole thing was 50 minutes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, it was, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

It wasn't like he just walked in and walked off.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I didn't say that.

[Adam Curry]

No, I know you didn't say it, but it sounds like it. Sounds like it, the way it comes across.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well,

[Adam Curry]

50 minutes. How much time is he supposed to be there?

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, I'm playing a clip. But the point is he says, okay, we're done. He pulls off the mic, gets up. Thanks, darling, you're crooked. And then Welker is. Her eyes are bugging out of her head. She's like looking at the producer, looking at the crew, like, what just happened now?

[Adam Curry]

Is this the one that aired?

[John C. Dvorak]

This is what aired, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Because I know they put a transcript and I guess they posted a secondary complete interview. Well, somewhere.

[John C. Dvorak]

So at the end they come back to her in the studio and here's what she says.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

President, let's please. I travel all the way to the studio.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is actually the. This is how it went on air

[Adam Curry]

for an hour, on and off in the rain. And I've given you enough time.

[John C. Dvorak]

You hear what he says? Giving you an hour. He says, this I know.

[Adam Curry]

For an hour, on and off in the rain. And I've given you enough time. You ought to see straighten out your press. Because you know what? A country can never be great with a dishonest.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Listen, we traveled all the way to Wisconsin for this interview.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep, there goes the microphone. Now they switch back to the studio. And here's her tag.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

I spoke with President Trump on Saturday and we both acknowledged the complications during the interview posed by the rain. He agreed to sit down with me for another Meet the Press interview.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's because of the rain.

[Adam Curry]

I say, okay, well, there was some talk about the rain. They were in a barn with a tin roof.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, with. With a tractor in the background.

[Adam Curry]

And with a tractor back there and it was raining and they had to cut it a number of times in, in. And they had to stop the interview a number of times supposedly. According to the reports I read.

[John C. Dvorak]

The whole thing was crazy. The whole thing was crazy. Now, there was some, there's some, there's a Supreme Court case that may stop some of these ballots. I have a, this is back to

[Various Guests/Reporters]

miss now tell me about SCOTUS and mail in ballots.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, so there is a pending, I mean, California, we're tracking the mail in vote. We're tracking how long it takes them to count. California is one of the states that allows for a grace period for ballots that are postmarked by election day but arrive.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

But it's not just a ballot that goes right into a post box. You have to get it posted and like and signed off on certified essentially. Essentially by somebody at the post office. Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just, just as when you mail your taxes, you can mail them out on April 15th at 11 o' clock at night. If you can get to a post office and make sure you get that postmark. The IRS isn't going to reject your money. But there are, there is a movement afoot to reject votes that would meet that same standard. And the Supreme Court has a case pending before it right now called Watson v. Republican National Committee that has not yet been decided. And at oral argument, there were essentially three groups of three. There are three votes that were a little bit hard to read based on oral argument. There are clearly three votes to end this practice. By this, have the Supreme Court in this practice, there may be five votes

[Adam Curry]

to end the practice retroactive.

[John C. Dvorak]

It would not be retro. There's no way you could make it retroactive. Certainly not for California.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Could it work for November if they

[John C. Dvorak]

decided conceivably, that would be a massive change. There's a principle called the Purcell Principle which says we shouldn't interfere. But realistically, Alabama. Right, right. Realistically, this Supreme Court court applies that principle when it's convenient for the Supreme Court to apply that principle for its partisan ends. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll see where that goes. Nowhere there was, see, this is a, was an interesting commentary on KTLA about why, why they are taking so much time tonight.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Election fraud investigations underway in LA as some, including Republican candidate for governor Steve Hilton, express their frustration. The final results of Tuesday's primary election could be weeks away.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is an absolute shambles, a humiliation for California. It is making our state a laughingstock here in America.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

President Trump, without releasing any evidence, accusing Democrats of quoting the election, saying Americans are ashamed of what is happening. U.S. attorney Bill Asale announcing his office is coordinating with the FBI in multiple investigation. But political experts say there is nothing to indicate widespread election fraud. And the delay is expected because of California's mail in ballot process.

[Adam Curry]

It's nothing fraudulent, it's nothing untoward. The reason it's taking a long time

[John C. Dvorak]

is that the people counting the ballots

[Adam Curry]

take their time matching signatures.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's it. Matching signatures, please.

[Adam Curry]

SB25 they mentioned in the Stella podcast says you don't have to do that anymore. So according to the bill, SB 2570. I'm sorry? SB 75 that Newsom signed says you don't have to match the signatures. So what's. What, how does this come into play?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they're lying.

[Adam Curry]

You know somebody's lying.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, for sure we will not see what. Xavier Becerra, he's the guy now leading.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wasn't he health and didn't. Didn't we laugh him out of town when he was at Health and Human Services? Now he's. He's the front runner. He's the front runner in California, I think.

[Adam Curry]

He wasn't evolved. Was he the one that was impeached, too?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it might have been. Oh, let's. Let's ask the robot.

[Adam Curry]

Look it up.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's a good one. Book of Knowledge, was Javier Becerra impeached when he was in hhs? Let's see. I think you're right.

[Adam Curry]

Well, one of them was.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it was him.

[Adam Curry]

It could have been. It could have been.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's taking a long time to figure it out. According to the Book of Knowledge, Xavier Becerra served as the 25th United States Secretary of Health and Human Services under President Joe Biden from 2021 to 2005. But no impeachment proceedings.

[Adam Curry]

It was the Homeland Security guy that was impeached.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, you're right. Different brown guy.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Becerra was a do nothing, do nothing guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do nothing.

[Adam Curry]

He oversaw the vax and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. Isn't he a farmer guy?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he's a big pharma. He's a big business guy. The advantage that he has, or the only good news for him is that he's like pro refinery and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he's pro.

[Adam Curry]

Chevron has.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's pro oil.

[Adam Curry]

He's big oil. Chevron has paid. Financed his campaign.

[John C. Dvorak]

What, the Jews haven't done it?

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, the Jews. I think the Jews wanted Steyer. So Steyer's out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course.

[Adam Curry]

How could they fail Nobody likes Steyer. Stier's a creep.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but how could he fail? I mean, he had all the money. I'm sure he had aipac. And how can it fail? I don't understand. People always tell me, if you got all the money, then you win.

[Adam Curry]

You should also mention the fact that I was watching one of these old clips and Hillary had twice as much money as Trump in 2016. How come she didn't win? I'm just saying twice as much.

[John C. Dvorak]

Anomaly. So we were pretty much correct about Pulte. The now, is Pulte the guy?

[Adam Curry]

Well, that was probably more you than me in this one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is he the guy from the big construction company? Is that this Pulte? Isn't there a Pulte Construction?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know if it's the same guy or not, but he's definitely got nothing to do with intelligence. I think it's one of these things. I think Trump does this a lot. I'm gonna put you up for this. You're gonna be able to say you're gonna put in your bio that you were nominated. Your wife's gonna like it. Everybody's gonna think you're great, but you're not gonna get it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the theory goes a little deeper. Let's listen first to cbs.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Now we're taking you to Washington where Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch has just confirmed that a controversial 1.8 billion do for Trump allies has now been totally canceled.

[John C. Dvorak]

Canceled.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

In the meantime, there's new controversy over the President's decision to name a close ally as Acting Director of National Intelligence. We should.

[John C. Dvorak]

Zhang is at the White House with

[Various Guests/Reporters]

the latest on this. We should. Good morning to you. What's the issue? Good morning, Gail. Good morning to everybody. President Trump passed over other high ranking intelligence officials and appointed Bill Pulte, the head of the Federal Housing Finance Agency Agency, to also be the Acting Director of National Intelligence. When we asked the White House about why Pulte was picked for the role, they only said he would do a great job. President Trump named Bill pulte to oversee 18 intelligence agencies and organizations, touting his, quote, deep experience managing the most sensitive matters in America. But even some Republicans were quick to point out those sensitive matters don't include national security.

[Adam Curry]

No evidence of any qualifications for that.

[John C. Dvorak]

No evidence.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

The Director of National Intelligence position was created after 911 to coordinate communication for the intelligence community. Pulte currently runs an agency that regulates home loans.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know if any national security experience he has.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Dr. Mehmet Oz, who led Tuesday's White House press briefing.

[Adam Curry]

Good afternoon. Everybody.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Said he didn't know anything about Pulte's

[Adam Curry]

situation, but added, I do trust the president's judgment. He is a very sharp, quick and quick study.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love the CBS does this a lot. They're doing very, very short quotes from everybody just popping it. It's, I mean, I have to say it's fast, but it's all, you know, it's either a nat pop or it's going to be a quote of, you know, there's no evidence he has any experience and he is the home builder. It is the Pulte home builder according to the term.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, that makes sense because he'd be a. Sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, of course. Here's second clip P Also earned the

[Various Guests/Reporters]

president's praise, pushing prosecutions of the president's perceived political opponents like California perceive political opponents.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is great.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Senator Adam Schiff, New York Attorney General.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's not perceived. That's a political opponent.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Tisha James and Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook for alleged mortgage fraud.

[Adam Curry]

We refer people who are Democrats, Republicans, it doesn't matter. Congress.

[John C. Dvorak]

Boom. You see how they're doing that. Boom.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Have a role in confirming acting cabinet levels officials like Pulte or acting Attorney

[John C. Dvorak]

General Todd Blanche the reasons for the fund is something that President Trump talked about for a long time.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Blanche faced fierce backlash even after the Justice Department dropped plans to set up

[John C. Dvorak]

a proposed one point which is really inherently dishonest.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but, but the way they're doing it, I have to, I like it because it keeps the pace and flow going like crazy. And it also, so it's augmenting. It's not confirming. In other words, they don't say something and then the guy says the same thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, exactly.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Blanche faced fierce backlash even after the Justice Department dropped plans to set up a proposed $1.8 billion fund to pay people who feel they were victims of government weaponization.

[John C. Dvorak]

But we are not moving forward with the fund, period.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

A federal judge ruled to temporarily block the fund until next month, but Blanche says even after that date, the administration will not try to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so now we go to the president himself.

[Adam Curry]

It's an acting position. It's not a permanent. He's not going to be permanent because,

[John C. Dvorak]

you know, I don't think he'd want

[Adam Curry]

to be permanent, but he's a very smart guy and he may find out some things about the rigged elections, etc. Etc. I think he'd like to do it. I'd like to. I think he wants to do it very much. Got A lot of energy, but he'll be very good. Again, it's not a permanent position we're looking at. We're interviewing people right now, but it's somebody just to take it over for a little while.

[John C. Dvorak]

Necessary, in your view, Mr. President, the

[Adam Curry]

necessary national security experience to take on that? Well, I do, and I think he does, actually, because he's smart.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's smart. National security experience. Yeah, he's smart. So what we deconstructed is that this. What he's doing here is getting a guy bull in a China shop. Look at this, look at this, look at this, look at this. And there's a guy behind him, which is the same guy who was behind Tulsi. And that's the guy. He said, okay, here's Bill Pulte. He's going to be the acting Director

[Adam Curry]

of National Intelligence, which has them completely

[John C. Dvorak]

in a conniption fit. Why? Because Pulte is like a bull in a China shop. And my friend, the NSA veteran Kirk Wiebe, once told me, I asked him the question, how would you go about reforming the deep state?

[Adam Curry]

What would you do?

[John C. Dvorak]

And he said, first you need someone with a chainsaw weed whacker who's willing to go in there and just tear everything down. And then you need somebody from the intelligence community who actually knows how to direct the weed whacker to where he's got to go. So Tulsi Gabbard did that in the first term. Pulte is basically capable of doing that. He's got Tulsi Gabbard's chief assistant, Aaron

[Adam Curry]

Lucas, who is the deputy DNI under

[John C. Dvorak]

Tulsi, to show him exactly where to go.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

And people like Mark Warner, the senator

[John C. Dvorak]

who was probably most responsible for Russiagate, is completely flipping out.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

He says this guy's going to have

[John C. Dvorak]

access to every classified secret in the United States. What does that mean? In his interview with Miranda Devine yesterday,

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Trump hinted at it.

[John C. Dvorak]

He kept coming back over and over again to the rigging of the 2020 elections. And my bet is the way he's seeing Pulte is this is the guy who can prevent the fraud coming up up in the midterms. All right, so chainsaw weed whacker. There you go.

[Adam Curry]

Who is that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Who said that?

[Adam Curry]

Who is that? That last clip from Barbara Boyd. Is that a Prometheus person?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Old lady. Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

They have a bunch of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

They only have two of them.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it seems like a bunch to

[John C. Dvorak]

me, Susan and Barbara, but. But, I mean, that's the guy. He's Been a spook for 20 years. Of course he knows where everything is. And you get pulte. Yeah, I'm sure the guy's gonna have fun. Oh, it's just like demoing a house.

[Adam Curry]

This is basically in the private sector. This is the same act that we're seeing with Nick Shirley.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, do tell.

[Adam Curry]

There was. Nick Shirley's always got some guy.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

He has. He has Dave. Bob.

[Adam Curry]

Bob or Dave or Fred. There's some guy telling him what to do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, yes, exactly right. It's fantastic.

[Adam Curry]

It's a good bit because you have a front man. And then when all hell breaks loose and you gotta ax him, you just. Okay, you're out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

But meanwhile, the real damage is being done by the second guy there. He's still there. And you bring another front man in. He does the same exact thing. Doesn't make any difference who it is. And so the whole thing, it reminds me, there used to be a. The guy who ran Computer World and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, here we go. Here we go. I'm already loving it. I'm already loving it. Yeah. This is one I've not heard. I don't think I've heard this one.

[Adam Curry]

You.

[John C. Dvorak]

You.

[Adam Curry]

May I. It's possible I've have told. I have told this before because it's a very good story. It's not my story. It's a story that everyone knows. Pat McGovern used to run Computer World, InfoWorld, all these magazines and IDG, the publishing companies, really big in Asia. They're everywhere. And Pat used his gambit. He'd do the same. He pulled a similar kind of stunt to have somebody who was a. Like just a prick writing Nasty.

[John C. Dvorak]

By the way, that's a classic word we need to bring back. Prick is not used often enough because, you know, it's a word you can use. People aren't offended, but it really explains like a. Just a nasty.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, beyond a dick.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's beyond. It's dick. It's dick and beyond.

[Adam Curry]

So this guy. So the idea. So. So he'd create these. These people that didn't exist and he'd have somebody ghostwrite for him. So he had all these different writers that would go on and on and on about something or other, and they slam some company and say, these guys are no good. Of course, this. Maybe there'd be a company that didn't advertise a lot. There's a lot of reasons to do it, obviously. And it would get the company all bent out of shape. And so McGovern always go up to the company, said, well, you know, you know, if you guys maybe to advertise a little bit. Well, we can advertise, but that writer, that guy's got to go. And McGovern would always say, no problem, I'm firing him tomorrow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Some guy who didn't exist.

[Adam Curry]

A guy who didn't exist.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's perfect. He's out.

[Adam Curry]

He's out. We're with you, buddy.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's great. Do you think that stuff must still happen at publications? I'm sure.

[Adam Curry]

Sure does. Everything is like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. When we, when we mess up, we're going to fire our producer.

[Adam Curry]

That guy's got to go.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this next clip, because we're kind of moving into Todd Blanche, which everyone is also really upset about because he's the President's personal lawyers. How many times have we heard this? Oh, the Attorney General's acting like the President's personal lawyer now it actually is his personal lawyer and they're losing their minds over it. But I caught this on Miz now. I'm obsessed with Miz now. It's so bad. I must be single handedly raising their ratings through the roof. Listen.

[Adam Curry]

Doubling them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Doubling them. Blanche has been auditioning for this since

[Adam Curry]

Bondi was ousted in April.

[John C. Dvorak]

Auditioning. Oh, yeah, and pushing to go even farther than she would on cases that even if they ultimately lose or overturn, reflect Trump's demands for a partisan, political, revenge oriented doj. The move does follow on what Trump wanted and telegraphed. Many are concerned that this obvious legal conflict will only get worse if he goes from temporary to permanent. Remember, it is a scandal and a legal.

[Adam Curry]

Ari Flight guy. Yeah, yeah, that's the rapper Six o'

[John C. Dvorak]

Clock Shadow, the guy who does rap lyrics at the end of his show. I remember, in the great words of Q West, conflict will only get worse if he goes from temporary to permanent. Remember, it is a scandal and a

[Adam Curry]

legal breach in and of itself for

[John C. Dvorak]

any president to take someone who was their personal defense attorney, someone who was loyal to them on a personal basis and say they should also run the

[Adam Curry]

doj, run the law firm, if you will, of the country. Because throughout modern history of the doj,

[John C. Dvorak]

it was a huge dividing line that

[Adam Curry]

it is supposed to be independent that of course any president is entitled to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is a very good question. He says modern history. But let's just go through the history because I did a deep dive.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, good for you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's start with number one, George Washington, his Department of Justice. This is. He actually established. This is before the Department of Justice was established. This is 1789. Edmund Randolph was his private personal attorney, managing his extensive personal legal affairs and estates in Virginia. And he appointed him as the Nation's very first U.S. attorney General. Huh.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's. The precedent has been set.

[John C. Dvorak]

The precedent has been set.

[Adam Curry]

The precedent has been set.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's go to Warren G. Harding, 1921. Harry Daugherty, Ohio lawyer who served Harding's personal attorney, close political confidant. Upon taking office, Harding appointed Daugherty as Attorney General.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there you have it. That's pretty modern.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, how about this one? This is my favorite because it's not just the old guys, it's not just Republicans. John F. Kennedy literally appointed his brother, Robert F. Kennedy.

[Adam Curry]

There you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

As his brother. His brother became Attorney General. Yeah. There's no conflict there. That's not crazy. Richard Nixon appointed John Mitchell. And Richard. He was Nixon's law partner at their firm. Ronald Reagan, William French Smith, and Edwin Meese, both in the inner circle. And of course, George W. Bush with Alberto Gonzalez. So this is bull crap. There's tons of bullshit.

[Adam Curry]

This is basically a lie being put on the poor, dumb viewers of Ms.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, low IQ viewers is how we. How we call that. Yes, exactly. So this whole thing. But, you know, it's a. It's a new day. It's a new dawn. I guess that's what. I don't know. I don't know what I'm saying. But you know. You know what I mean?

[Adam Curry]

Since we're talking about the Department of Justice, I have an interesting little tidbit for you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

This is an Ask Adam.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, oh, hold on a second. You surprised me with the Ask Adam, but all right, here we go. Ask Adam. What do we do?

[Adam Curry]

So this is. I want you to listen to this clip. And this is about Hegseth talking about. You know, Hexeth came out with this speech. They got all the EU people bent out of shape saying you guys are on D days. A D day speech.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. June 6th.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, we had D Day yesterday for people. It wasn't celebrating the Night States at all anymore. Nobody cares. 22,000 dead on the beach. But now that's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Whatever.

[Adam Curry]

Skip it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, whatever.

[Adam Curry]

Whatever.

[John C. Dvorak]

Whatever.

[Adam Curry]

Now, okay, so this is Ask Adam Hegseth on eu.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

The US Defense Secretary Pete Hegserv has criticized European nations for allowing what he described as an invasion of migrants on

[John C. Dvorak]

their shores during a D Day anniversary

[Various Guests/Reporters]

anniversary speech in France. Speaking in Normandy, he said different European beaches were being invaded by dangerous ideologies.

[Adam Curry]

Sadly, today, different European Beaches are stormed by different dangerous ideologies. Beaches in Spain, in Italy, in Greece, Bulgaria. Boats and men arrive. When will European capitals do something about that invasion?

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Migration has become a major political issue across Europe, with parties supporting hardline immigration policies surging in the polls.

[John C. Dvorak]

Answer the question.

[Adam Curry]

Go.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, what is the question?

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is a BBC report, and I'm asking you what subtle insult to the Trump administration was made in that clip? You know that doesn't come to mind immediately. No, because you didn't catch it right away. So I'm going to play a short clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Which is another BBC clip with another presenter doing the same insult.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

The US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has called on European countries to resist what he called an invasion of foreign migrants.

[John C. Dvorak]

An invasion of what she said countries. Which was that. That caught. Caught my ear right away.

[Adam Curry]

He's the secretary of war.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

U.S. defense Secretary Pete Hegset has called on European countries to resist what he called an invasion of foreign migrants.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, very good. Very good. I. I did not pick up on that. Which is.

[Adam Curry]

No, because it's meant for you not to. They. They're just not giving, you know, we don. Care what you call it. Yeah, we're going to call it what we're going to call it. We're British.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're right. It's not the Gulf of America, I tell you. It's the Gulf of Mexico. So we have panic, panic. Everybody panic, panic, panic here in Texas. The New World screw worm. The New World screw worm.

[Adam Curry]

This screw worm is back.

[John C. Dvorak]

So Texas Slim stayed here overnight. He's on his way to Baylor, Scott White Hospital. He has, like, acute pancreatitis. Not from drinking, because he hasn't. I don't think he has had a drink in a decade.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I don't think you get it from drinking. It's just something else. It's like a virus.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so I really want everybody think of Slim. Pray for Slim. It's not great. And Slim is even slimmer than he was.

[Adam Curry]

Was.

[John C. Dvorak]

But, you know, this is Mr. Beef Intelligence. And he's like, oh, man, this screw worm. He told me the whole history of the screw. He said, back in the day, you had screwworm. Yeah, we had screwworm. And you dug a trough and you walked all the cows through it and they. With poison and they came out the other end and the screw worm was gone. That's what we did with screw worm. He said it was that simple. Said, but now. He says, now there's two things. One, vaccine's gotta be coming. We gotta Have a vaccine for the screwworm. And the other one is really a

[Adam Curry]

vaccine against a worm.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course, it's ridiculous. He says it's just to reduce the herd even further. They're gonna wanna cull them. You know, it's all regulatory capture is what he said. I listened. Slim is the one who said six years ago, our herd's gonna go down. You have no idea how bad it's gonna get now. He said to me last night, he said. Said there's going to be a famine within 90 days. It may not be America, it could be Asia. This is a very big problem. And there's a couple of things I caught in this FOX Live now report.

[Adam Curry]

Does he think this famine is being. Don't change so quickly. What. What's. What's going to. What's. What is the indicator for a famine and what is the trigger?

[John C. Dvorak]

Trigger? Well, the trigger is stuff like this, where the herd gets reduced to where. I mean, all. Have you been to a restaurant lately and ordered a ribeye? I mean, you're talking 80, 90 bucks.

[Adam Curry]

Thousand dollars.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's literally in Austin at. What is that place called? Three Forks, Five Forks. I don't know, Fork and spoon. It's a fancy restaurant. Do you get one of those Flintstone ribeyes? What is it called? What's the big one called? You know, the huge one.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Bone in. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, but big, like you eat it with three people.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, a double. A double cut.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Adam Curry]

A high collar. No.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is that thing called low pockets? No, what is.

[Adam Curry]

Come on. There's a name for it.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's Tomahawk, the jumbo tomato.

[Adam Curry]

Tomahawk. Tomahawk. Yeah, they sell them at Costco. Those things are great.

[John C. Dvorak]

How much do you think they charge for it at the fancy restaurant in Auckland, Austin. And you can. Three people can eat. You could do four if you really wanted to, but you and I could probably devour one ourselves. Well, maybe not. You need three people. What is the price, do you think, in the fancy Austin restaurant for a jumbo Tomahawk ribeye?

[Adam Curry]

A jumbo tomahawk ribeye at a fancy Austin which is overpriced. This is New York prices, for some unknown reason, I would say $95.

[John C. Dvorak]

$875. Yes. Yes. Dude, I. I was in.

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I was in Nashville and one little stupid ribeye. $110. We didn't eat it, by the way. We didn't go to the restaurant. A hundred and ten dollars for just a little Little ribeye. No, no, it's out of.

[Adam Curry]

Go back. Let's back this up. $895 for 75.

[John C. Dvorak]

875.

[Adam Curry]

875. The Tomahawk, which you can buy at cost about 50 bucks, maybe 40. No, I don't think it's that much. It's probably less like 30.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, that's. That's a good. That's best price. So. But this is what's happening, and I'm sure that, you know, it's a whole. There's a whole bunch of things that come into this.

[Adam Curry]

Well, hold on a second. This doesn't cost them, you know, what are they marking the thing up at and why?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the thing that Slim told me and does any.

[Adam Curry]

Or maybe they don't have it and it's just bulk crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm going back to what he said five, six years ago. He says, mark my words, says beef, Texas beef will be sold as caviar. You remember that? He was saying it's going to be vaguely like caviar. And that's what's happening. And as a little aside, we don't get most of this beef. Most of this beef is going to the rich Chinese and the Japanese, and it's all going overseas. We're not even eating Texas beef. Which brings me to this report. First, about the scary screw worm.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

So first of all, let's just break down what exactly this new world screwworm is and the threat that it poses to livestock. Yeah, so like you said earlier, it is a fly, and it's a parasitic blowfly, and it lays eggs on wounds of animals or any type of opening or orifice that it has access to. And then those larvae will hatch off and start eating on the flesh of that animal. And when it eats this flesh, I. I mean, like, does it just eat away at the whole animal? Animal? Well, I mean, since it's fly larva, it is a little tough for them to eat and consume an entire animal, but they will feed on it and make wounds very grotesque in the sense. And, and what really ends up happening is the animal doesn't survive these infestations. So normally the animal will pass before full consumption by the larva, but the impact is severe, why they're there and why they're feeding.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so now this is. I think it's Laredo, where this happened. They've got a 1212 mile radius zone. The worm doesn't fly. Okay. It doesn't like, jump, fly around. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go hit hill country. I'm gonna go over here. No, it doesn't. You have to have contact, pretty much contact with the other animal to get that. But now listen to this piece.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Unfortunately, it began moving out of South America through Central America and up into Mexico a couple years ago.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

We've been watching it, But most of that movement is due to moving of animals that were infested with these larvae. And when you move those animals without treating them ahead of time, it can lead to further infestations in other areas.

[John C. Dvorak]

So what's wrong with this picture? It comes from animals that were moved up from Mexico and South America. This is beef country. That's not a Texas cow. How they're move. They're moving. We're eating the crap. That's what's going on. You go to the supermarket, H E B, you're eating South American crap that has been touched by lord knows how many hands. What they've injected into these animals to get them here. And our beef, the big Flintstone stuff that's going overseas, this is not even our beef. Why, why are we driving cattle up through Texas? We got cattle, Cattle. Now it doesn't matter because we need to reduce the herd. They're probably. Well, you gotta cull them or shoot them up, which will make them inedible and make them die eventually as well. So how do we. What do you do?

[Adam Curry]

So that way. Let's back up. So initially, in the olden days, they would just run them through a bath and that would be the end of it. Yep, a poison bath, which you do. Which you can do with dogs too. You know, it's kind of bastard or got malathion in them or whatever it is. Yeah, well, what, what's wrong with that process?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, there's no more knowledge. It's all, you know, it's all rules and regulations that have been written over decades and you know, it's regulations.

[Adam Curry]

It's these regulations, these regulators coming now. You can't do that. It's toxic. Yeah, it gets into the groundwater.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. And maybe Brooke Rollins, I think that's her name, our ag secretary. Maybe she'll figure this out. But the media, and this is Fox, they still want to scare you. They want to scare the bejesus out of you. Now, how do we scare Americans? What's the best way

[Adam Curry]

you're going to die?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, even worse than you die. Dying.

[Adam Curry]

Your children are going to die now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Worse than the kids.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know your dog.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Let's talk about pets. There are a lot of dog owners out there. A lot of cat owners out there. Do they need to be worried? Can this impact their pets? Definitely. Especially if you're in an area.

[John C. Dvorak]

Definitely.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

If, you know, I don't know if we have anybody listening from outside the United States, but if you're in an area, you definitely need to be concerned. If the screw worms have returned in that area and in that area of Texas right now, we do. We want to watch our pets. We want to look at them just as much as we would our livestock, because, yes, they will infest animals. Dogs seem to be high on the list right now out of Mexico, not as high as cattle, but still over 5,000 have been identified as having infestations. And that's a large number. Is this. Does it pose a threat to humans? Yes. Even humans have to be concerned. It is rare in humans and even rarer in birds. We get asked a lot of about that too. Right now it's like a 1% or so or less of the population of. Of the cases they've recorded that impact humans. But we still, we want humans to be aware. It is a possibility. I wouldn't put high on your list, but we still want them to realize it is. It can happen. We've had cases of it over the last several decades of travelers going to places where they still can get into, where they still find New World screw worms, and then coming back to the United States with infestation stations.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you should still be worried. No matter what you say. Be worried, be worried. You want to hear the CBS version of this and we'll close it out.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And I'd be very interested to see if they use the. The net pop style of. Of analysis. We've been holding off the fly for years. From Panama, scientists developed a way in the 60s to breed sterile screw worm flies. Then with they would drop them out of airplanes by the millions. The flies out in the wild were unable to reproduce. Using that strategy, they pushed this fly south out of the United States, out

[John C. Dvorak]

of Mexico, all the way down through

[Adam Curry]

Central America using that exact same strategy. During the pandemic, there were some breakdowns in the process and in surveillance. There was additional movement of people and animals to the north. People, the fly.

[John C. Dvorak]

What? The people with screw worm. Come on.

[Adam Curry]

Screw worms started to spread again, and

[John C. Dvorak]

I rubbed against the cow, and the cow got my screw worm.

[Adam Curry]

Once that became evident, the US Started devoting more resources to trying to stop it. They started to prepare a location in Mexico to breed more sterile flies. They prepared an old base in the south US to be able to receive sterile flies and drop them again. And right now the work is ongoing to try to breed sterile flies again in the US that in itself is significant. Researchers have told me that the fly is considered to be so dangerous, they can't even get their hands on live samples. They've had to go south to Panama to study them. The big. They were all over the place.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nah, this is. This is bogus. So do you know who got money to do this? This is going to kill you. What company in America, amongst many others, brothers, got money to do the sterile fly, the sterile mosquito, the sterile ticks.

[Adam Curry]

Bill Gates.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, we already know.

[Adam Curry]

He.

[John C. Dvorak]

He does. No.

[Adam Curry]

Google.

[John C. Dvorak]

Google.

[Adam Curry]

Google.

[John C. Dvorak]

Google, yes.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. No, you know what? I did know this because I saw this run past the wire. Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

Google.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Google.

[John C. Dvorak]

How does that even work?

[Adam Curry]

Test go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, right. Why don't you go make your AI better? Google is.

[Adam Curry]

If these flies impact the ability of ranchers to have calves, they have to limit the seasons because they can't have calves in the warm season when the fly is active. That's bad. To impact how much they're able to rebuild their herds.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go.

[Adam Curry]

It impacts the ability of wildlife to survive. And yes, in some cases, it could impact pets and people. There's been surveillance ongoing for months and months and months. State federal agencies have been training on where to watch for the fly, how to trap it, how to recognize it. They have been developing therapeutics and ointments and treatments in the hope that once it was here, they could get on it right away. But now it is. Carmela diet. Well, across the border, it's about 100 miles southwest of San Antonio. And the battle is now not just something that scientists are expecting to happen. It is here.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's here. San Antonio. Like I could have screw worm at any moment.

[Adam Curry]

You could. You probably do.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was wondering about that itch. I got a screw worm. This is. Yeah, this is bad. And. Okay, we'll see. We'll see what Brooke Brook does.

[Adam Curry]

Nothing.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm afraid you're right.

[Adam Curry]

I think the whole thing's an op.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it is an op. It's an op to collapse the herd even further.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, they don't want people eating meat. We had a couple of clips. Didn't we play that clip with a guy? Because we got to poison the public with that Alpha gal and so people stop eating beef. Well, that's an old save the planet.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that is an old clip of

[Adam Curry]

that guy saying, no, it's an old clip. But that's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

What's new.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Yep. So we're just going to continue eating our Texas beef straight from the rancher. That's where you want to get it.

[Adam Curry]

So I got a couple of. I have oddball clips today. Okay, I would, but I would like to get some non oddball clips. It turns out that the Ukraine, the Ukraine attacked St. Petersburg as we played last Thursday, but they did it again on Saturday. And everybody's making it sound like this was the first attack when it's obviously nuts. As we report or played clips from NTD last show and Russia has suffered

[Various Guests/Reporters]

what it's called an unprecedented attack on the city of St. Petersburg and the surrounding areas. Ukraine fired hundreds of drones at Russian targets early on Saturday and many of those drones target targeted St. Petersburg itself, coinciding with the final day of a flagship economic forum being held in the city. Moscow and Kyiv have intensified drone strikes on each other in recent months amid us led diplomatic efforts to end the war. But does this latest attack risk escalating the conflict? Our correspondent in Kyiv, Vitaly Shevchenko told

[John C. Dvorak]

me the Ukrainians are saying that that they hit a weapons storage facility, a navy base and an oil depot St. Petersburg. The Ukrainian President, Volodymyr Zelensky called the attack a just response to Russia's aggression. The Russian authorities say that this was an unprecedented strike. The governor of of Leningrad region said that hundreds of people were evacuated from outside a military facility which caught fire. So a pretty big incident in St. Petersburg.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

And were there any deaths or any injuries?

[John C. Dvorak]

The local authorities are sort of vague on that subject. They're talking of a number of people injured. They say that damage to buildings in the area is insignificant. But I've seen videos of smoke billowing out sites in Petersburg and there's one video of a man who appears to be a local resident and he says that weapons stores have caught fire and you can hear a lot of explosions happening in the background. Were there, was there any video with this report or they just say that there's smoke and weapons.

[Adam Curry]

This is the BBC World Service. So I didn't get to see any videos.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I don't hear any. Not pops. I don't hear any.

[Adam Curry]

Because the BBC World Service, they don't do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

They should. They should if they want to stay relevant, they need to do nat pops. Get on board.

[Adam Curry]

BBC, you know, they're still from the old short wave days and they know if they did a nat pop would sound like interference on the, on the wireless.

[John C. Dvorak]

BBC World Service. We have no net prompts. We have reward directly From a guy on the street who said, I heard some explanation. Murders.

[Adam Curry]

That's exactly what it sounds like.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm a shortwave listener. All right. I have.

[Adam Curry]

You can't find anything anymore on shortwave. It's pretty hard to come by. And we, you know, it's kind of pathetic compared to what was when you were a kid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So let's go and play part two.

[John C. Dvorak]

We had. We had long wave, you had medium wave, which is am. Then you had long wave.

[Adam Curry]

Wave.

[John C. Dvorak]

And long wave was. What was it? What was the thing in Luxembourg? Radio Luxembourg.

[Adam Curry]

A lot of these stations were long, but it was always called shortwave.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, you had.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, the receiver was called a shortwave receiver. Yeah, but, yeah, it had long with long way. It had a band on there, said lw.

[John C. Dvorak]

But yes, yes, that was great. And you had a switch. Oh, now I'm on long wave. Hey, and. And you know what you hear? It's wealth, man. Jack. And Radio Luxembourg.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. You would get a lot of that wavy wave sound.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what we grew up with.

[Adam Curry]

Kids whooshing.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what we grew up with. Next, I'll do the modem sound of a dial up. All right, here we go.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

So how did Ukraine manage to get their drag drones so far into Russian territory again?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I've spoken to the commander of one of the Ukrainian drone units involved in the strike, and he basically told me that Russian air defenses were useless. We take part in many operations in north region of Russia, and it's very interesting that in this, these days, it was both operations in San Petersburg and operations in occupied Crimea. And in both directions, north and south, we find Russia like it's our own territory. Almost no resistance. Not hard to reach a target. Hard.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Is there a fear, Vitaly, that given the potential humiliation that Russia has suffered in front of its guests, we know that President Putin is holding his economic forum in St. Petersburg at the moment. Is there a fear about the retaliation now?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, for the past months and even years, the two presidents, Vladimir Putin of Russia and Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, they've been accusing each other of carrying out all sorts of atrocities and saying, well, look, we have to respond. But my view is that this is basically political rhetoric. And the truth is that all these attacks, they would be happening anyway because for different reasons, Ukraine and Russia are still willing and able to fight. You know,

[Adam Curry]

they went on forever. By the way, you should thank me for stopping it there.

[John C. Dvorak]

My view, still disappointed.

[Adam Curry]

That's why I disagree.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this has resulted in a powwow. The French, German and British leaders will

[Adam Curry]

meet their Ukrainian counterpart in London on Sunday.

[John C. Dvorak]

French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Friedrich

[Adam Curry]

Merz, and UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer

[John C. Dvorak]

will discuss with Zelenskyy the way forwards at a time when Russia, in a state of military, economic and strategic failure, is persisting unsuccessfully with a deadly war. The Elysee palace said on Friday Macron

[Adam Curry]

welcomed the letter from Volodymyr Zelenskyy to

[John C. Dvorak]

Vladimir Putin aimed at achieving peace. So he sent a letter. Sent a letter.

[Adam Curry]

A terse letter.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do they really still send letters?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, terse.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I mean, seriously, do they, like, with a big wax seal on it. I mean, do they really send letters?

[Adam Curry]

Well, Trump keeps saying he's waiting for a letter.

[John C. Dvorak]

From who?

[Adam Curry]

Who from the Iranians.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, I know. I. I got a. It's funny you bring that up. I've got. I got a. A clip from Tusi. Your guy. Tucy. Tusi. Remember Tucy? Tusi Tusi. T O U S I the, the. The YouTuber guy, the toosie guy, who we suspect might be a spook, but we're not quite sure.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, right.

[John C. Dvorak]

He does all the Iranian news, and so he shows all these videos because, you know, the Internet is back open. So IRGC decided, okay, everybody's got Internet now. We'll turn it back on. And there's tons of videos of protests, students protesting. Interesting to watch, because what you don't see is hijabs. There's no. Almost no headscarves. All the girls just got their hair flapping in the wind or tied up in a bun.

[Adam Curry]

They're Persian women. Don't you know, they actually are attractive.

[John C. Dvorak]

Very. Oh, they. Sometimes they get thick ankles.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you know, it's. I'm just saying it's the food.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's only when we're auditioning Persian women. Okay. That's the. That's the context in which we say this as producers. So he had a little report, which I figured I'd share. Doing protests against the Islamic occupation is quite dangerous, as you've also seen back in December and January. Having said that, the regime is getting weaker every day because thanks to President Trump and the US Military, because the. President Trump has not abandoned the mission, as you've seen over the last couple of months and few weeks. The US military continues the operation against the regime in the Strait of Hormuz.

[Adam Curry]

The blockade continues.

[John C. Dvorak]

There have been some clashes, but of course the blockade is doing its job, draining the resources, draining the finances of the regime, creating Uncertainty and infighting inside the regime. And that's why the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps are trying their best to drag the Americans and everybody else and the Arabs into an all out war. Because it's in the interest of the regime in Iran to have an all out war, because at least it will create unity inside the regime and they could just drag this along. But the US Decided not to take debate and continue to paralyze the regime. And they don't know what to do right now. If the US Military had abandoned the mission, if the US Military and the US Government had abandoned the Iranian people, for example, obviously the regime right now will be strengthened massively. But right now they can't because the US Military is not stopping what they are doing. And President Trump is also not giving up. And he also, he had many opportunities to sign a deal, give a deal to the Islamic Republic and just get out of it. He said, no, I'm not getting out of this. And he's rejected every single deal sent from Tehran. Iran July 4th is just around the corner.

[Adam Curry]

You know, gas is going to have to get it together.

[John C. Dvorak]

Premium was down 20 cents here in Texas. I thought that was quite a drop.

[Adam Curry]

Actually, it should be down to nothing. Texas is an oil producing state.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, got it. You know, the, the oil baron, he's reopening wells they previously capped. He says there's so much demand right now they have 1500 wells that they capped and they're opening them up again. He says that right now, what it used to cost. Let me see his number. It used to cost $28,000 a day to operate a well. Now it's 38,000, he says, because it's hard to get anybody.

[Adam Curry]

So what do you mean get anybody to work?

[John C. Dvorak]

People to work.

[Adam Curry]

You can't get anybody to work.

[John C. Dvorak]

They rift. All these people, people, you know, reduction in force. And now these people who were rift, they're like, I don't know, man, pay me some more, I'll come back. That's how the oil business works.

[Adam Curry]

That's the way it should work.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

You keep your employees or you screw up with them and they're going to screw with you. Come on.

[John C. Dvorak]

So then NPR had this woman on who wrote a book. Let's see, what is her name? Yaganeh Torbati. She wrote the book Stolen Revolution. And she kind of says the same thing, that things are kind of groovy in Iran right now.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

I'm Mary Louise Kelly. That country I was just describing, it's Iran, or at least Iran at the time of the 1979 revolution. The path from 1979 with the toppling of a monarch through the decades of oppression and economic turmoil that followed to this current moment is mapped out in the book Stolen Revolution, Betrayal and Hope in Modern Iran. Co author and journalist Yegina Torbati is here to talk to us about it in this special episode of the podcast. We spent so much time here these last few months talking about the current war in Iran. It felt worthwhile to dig deeper on Yegana's reporting on some of the forces and people who brought Iran to this moment. Yegana Torbati, welcome. Thank you so much for having me.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, now listen to her report

[Various Guests/Reporters]

you in that same story, though, write about a rock concert in Tehran that

[John C. Dvorak]

has just sold out and Bruce Springsteen is playing. Tehran hipsters, young hipsters in Tehran who

[Various Guests/Reporters]

are still hanging out at cafes and having fun, waiting to read. Joy continues. Hope does continue. Even amidst a wider sense of hopelessness, life goes on. You know, I think even people in war zones figure out ways to have those moments of joy because you sort of have to, to keep going. And I do think, you know, my job as a book author and my job as a newspaper reporter can sometimes be a little, little bit intention because reviewing all this history, I sort of got a sense that, like, nothing is permanent. Like, things change and movements can arise out of nowhere and people learn to kind of deal with things and maybe come up with solutions, and they manage to find ways to keep contesting power and to keep asserting themselves over time. And so, you know, for a new store, you kind of have to, like, have an ankle and a conclusion. But it's a snapshot in time. And in a year or in five years, we may look back and, you know, see all of this as a prelude to something or kind of be able to identify the threads that then led to something bigger. And we sort of have to be patient and also keep, keep watching, I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the hipsters are doing rock concerts in Tehran. How much of a war is this?

[Adam Curry]

This woman, Something's phony about her. She does a laugh tale before she uses the word book author. I'm a book point. Then she uses a laugh tale in front of the word. I should have written it down, but another key word. Yeah, halfway through.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fair. That's fair.

[Adam Curry]

So I guess she's a spook. This is a bullcrap book. There's no rock concerts going on. Maybe there are.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think there, I think the rock.

[Adam Curry]

There might be, but I don't think I Think this is going to be. It's just not presented correctly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

They're making it sound like, oh, don't worry about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's how I, that's how I took it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. It's all good. So we are on the.

[Adam Curry]

Don't worry about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're on the eve of something pretty big. These big IPOs, the, the tech IPOs

[Adam Curry]

and those after the crash on Friday. The AI crash on Friday. Yeah, I think these eight. You think these IPOs are going to come off?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think they will. They gotta go. But here, here's the thing. Let me see if I can find this. The thing that is rather concerning is

[Various Guests/Reporters]

this for the general public. If you think about your average investor, a lot of them are passive investors. You look at your 401k, your retirement accounts, you're probably plugged into some sort of an index fund. So you don't have to go and be a stock picker. You can just sit back and collect money that's growing within these major indexes. So the rules have changed a little bit for these listing places like the NASDAQ for the New York Stock Exchange. When these companies debuted, there was a waiting period around three months before they were included in these index funds. Now, as little as two weeks later, these massive companies with unproven financial models can now be added to the index funds. And typically when you see a company debut, the first day of trading is very volatile. The first few weeks of trading are very volatile because people are trying to price what the value is of this particular company. So now that these companies like your open eyes, your space X's that they can be included.

[John C. Dvorak]

Your open eyes, your space X's. Is there more than one space X? Your, your space X's. This is this bad report company.

[Adam Curry]

I can give you some other examples of why it's bad reporting when you're done.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

The way she presents it is bull crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

What do you mean?

[Adam Curry]

It's not like, oh, now you can. Now the indexes can pick them up after two weeks. They have to pick them up after two weeks if they're in the index, if it's allowed. This is a scam.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, this is.

[Adam Curry]

We talked about this on Dhorowitz.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, good. What do you, what did you conclude?

[Adam Curry]

To conclude this was a. Another beautiful ploy by Elon to change the moment where you, where the index fund has to bring this, you know, instead of letting the stock settle out, you Know it comes out, goes up and down and up and down. Who knows what it's going to do? You don't know. You really don't know?

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Instead of waiting for it to go through the normal process and then putting it in the index fund. And it's a big part of the index fund, which means you got to bring a lot of. You got to buy a bunch of stock because the index funds have to own the stock stock. So they have to buy a bunch of stock. Instead of having to let it go through its rigmarole, it artificially crops it up because it has to buy it right away.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

This is a scam. And it should be pointed out as not a scam illegally. It's just another Elon Musk. Beautiful. The guy's a genius.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they're all going to get in. I mean, if they all have this level, all of them will have to be. Will be. Not have to be. All of them will be pulled into the indexes.

[Adam Curry]

They have to be by the. By the rules of the. Of the fund. So, okay, so you're going to have a bunch. In other words, this could be the beginning of the end. This could bring down the whole thing. You don't know. Well, this is. There's more and more crazy stuff going on, asking for a major correction.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there's something else I learned from a friend of mine who works at an accounting company. Not the anonymous gay guy, but he'll probably weigh in. He still listens. I know he does. The anonymous. Oh, no, he. He texts me all the time. He text.

[Adam Curry]

He never texts me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the anonymous gay accountant, of course, texted me about testosterone. Hello. I mean, he was the first one to text me.

[Adam Curry]

What did he say?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's great. And you got to get on these peptides. I'm ripped.

[Adam Curry]

That's what he said.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm ripped.

[Adam Curry]

You should put him. I'll bet he is. Of course. My son. My son found 1.

[John C. Dvorak]

The WOL everyone's talking about, the Wolverine package.

[Adam Curry]

Is that the one that brings your muscles up and they can get as big as possible. They can turn into. You can turn into literally a monster by working out once a month.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Wolverine. It's the Wolverine. It's like two peptides. And please don't email me. I have everything I need to know. And you know what I'm gonna do absolutely nothing.

[Adam Curry]

I would avoid it like the plague.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got some feedback from a PhD as well. Anyway, so a lot of these, what they call the hyperscalers, which includes Google, they have Switched from stock options to RSUs. Are you familiar with this? It's like revenue service units.

[Adam Curry]

No, I'm not familiar with them.

[John C. Dvorak]

So as an accounting thing, they switched everybody to RSUs. So it's, it's all about accounting.

[Adam Curry]

But now everything's about accounting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Every single time an RSU employee cashes out out, the company has to sell stock to cover it, which pushes the stock price down. So then of course they have to do stock buybacks to keep the price up. It's like a treadmill. And Google is raising $80 billion

[Adam Curry]

for their AI.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well if you look at the, in fact Reuters wrote about it, 40 million of that is going towards, towards compensation of employees who are cashing in their RSUs. 40 billion of it. So the theory is that these big tech companies, so I mean they so need AI to succeed because their wealth at this point is really on paper. They got to spend all this capex on AI. And these employees, you know, they, they cash out. Boom. Legally. Every time an RSU employee cashes out, they have to withhold 22% upfront. That's a lot of money. So there's some, something going on that is not well in Silicon Valley of, with Google of all companies, like they were printing money and somehow now this whole AI thing is screwing everybody's numbers up. So yeah, you better believe it has to be successful. Note from a dude named Ben who works at Microsoft. We've been told to use AI for everything. That has resulted in a lot of token maxing. This is the big term in Silicon Valley, token maxing. Yeah. Here's your tokens. You got it. You them all. I work in C and I've had to review code that was complete slop amongst my co workers. We keep talking about how much this is actually costing us and no one knows. We're told hey, now is the golden age, so use as much as you can before it ends. I think everyone knows there's going to be a limit on it eventually, but we don't know how much. The other thing to note is that AI use is just tracked and factored into promotions and bonuses. This is what leads to token maxing. So you have to, to show that you're really productive by using a lot of tokens. This is crazy.

[Adam Curry]

That's a good one.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think AI coding is going anywhere. The models have gotten a lot better. However, it can be really frustrating to work with them sometimes they can implement features really well. It's fantastic. It's like a slot machine. Yes. Is what I've noticed too. I hope they get better, but I hope they get better for things I really need to understand. For now, I'm writing all my code myself, myself. So now enter the big problem that is that we've been talking about, which is the data center to the desktop. And CNBC had. What's this guy's name? Patel, of course, Indian dude. He is the president of Cisco. Cisco. And of course Cisco wants to sell routers and, and switches and stuff for traffic. So the guy's kind of full of crap. But what he's saying here, here I think is very relevant. Hey, just imagine that employees in the company use about $200 worth of tokens every week, 50 weeks a year. That's 10,000 bucks in tokens. You have 40,000 employees, that's $400 million. You have 90,000 employees, that's $900 million. That wasn't really planned starting price.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Can you say that again slowly?

[John C. Dvorak]

$200 per week.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Okay, that doesn't seem like, like it doesn't seem like.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's crazy, right?

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Trying to think of my open cloth.

[John C. Dvorak]

You probably use more than that. You'd be a very expensive.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

I guess it gets shut off and I'm like, I got to re up it. Okay, so $200 a week and then you multiply that at how many?

[John C. Dvorak]

50 weeks. Let's say you take two weeks off a year. You maybe take four weeks. It's 48 weeks roughly. It's 10,000 bucks a year.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

And. Right. Per employee or employee. And so that cost.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have 90,000 employees. So now we have the problem for these AI frontier model companies like OpenAI Anthropic and to a degree, Space X, AI elemental P model routing.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

What about model routing? I feel like this week everyone's talking about that and it makes a lot of sense. Like you can just see the numbers. Cost you $25 for an output on Cloud Opus, under a $$ for the same output on Deep Seek. Are you guys utilizing that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Absolutely. We actually have three models ourselves. We have a deep network model, we have a foundation security model that we've open sourced and we've got a time series model. We just also got another model for observability and we demoed that on stage that, you know, if it takes $0.12 for token costs that you would have for a certain task, you could take out 95% of the costs if you actually go with the local model, local small model. But what you have to do is you have to have that intelligent routing layer that says for these prompts and these tasks, I'm going to go over here. And for these other tasks, I'm probably going to be able to go to something cheaper. So I'll get back to that. One second. Only two more clips because this term came up two weeks ago. I'd never heard it before. And it's back. Jevons part paradox.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

What does that mean for premium in price? I mean, there's always going to be a place for them, right? But is it going to be growing as quickly as we've seen over the last few years?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think there's Javon's Paradox. That's going to be like constantly on supercharged right now. The lower the price goes. Like the biggest risk we have as an industry is if this gets too expensive, where the, the cost of tokens is disproportionately higher than the value it generates, then people pull back. So actually the cost per token going down is better for the model providers because when the cost goes down, people use it more. But your, your value is actually commensurate to what you're paying per token.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Let me push back on that point. We actually don't know the value is commensurate, and that's why.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm saying it's not right now.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Right?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So if it's not, and if the price goes down, that's actually better because then people actually use it more.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Is that a problem, though? I mean, do you think that that will hit demand some of these questions over return on investment and value. I mean, Scott was just here basically saying that if you don't get enough value from our product, we're going to pay $10 million for your usage. It feels like everyone is scrambling to show that they're providing value. But this is a question too, that like, is not new, Right. That hit the trade, the public AI trade before. It's kind of been off to the races recently. But there's some of that skepticism creeping back in.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think there's a natural. This is, this is one of those bull crap Silicon Valley things. We've seen this come and go 100 times, times. Jevons paradox, which I don't know if you remember two weeks ago or something like that, someone said, oh, it's Jevons Paradox. So this is. And that was on the all in pod. So this is a, a bullcrap term they're using in Silicon Valley. Jevons paradox is an economic principle discovered by British economist William Stanley Jevons in, wait for it, 1865. Can you just see some VC coming up with this?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, absolutely.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you know, according to Jevons Paradox, it states that technological improvements that increase the efficiency of resource use can paradoxically lead to an increase in the total consumption of that resource rather than the expected decrease. The paradox occurs because the efficiency improvements make a resource cheaper to use use. The cost savings often lead to increased demand that more than offsets the efficiency gains. For example, more fuel.

[Adam Curry]

Where's the paradox?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm waiting for it. More fuel efficient cars might lead to more driving or energy efficient appliances might encourage people to use them more frequently. This is Silicon Valley speak for we're screwed. The model doesn't work. Jevons paradox, man. Don't worry. When Jevons kicks in, it's all going to be great. Great. I can just feel it. It's one of those things. Can't you see John Dore running around?

[Adam Curry]

I you. This got me to just change this little presentation here. Change the tip of the day to what you'll hear it when you get to the tip of the day at the end of the show. You have to, people have to listen. But this will be very relevant to what you're saying.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh good. And then the final clip. This is truly what I think is already happening and where all this is heading and why your 401k will suffer when these IPOs and these companies get added to the index.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Companies are eventually. And this is what you were talking about earlier on desk side computing, is that right? He says companies are eventually going to shift to running local models. Prices are getting too high for Fortune 500 companies to swallow. We are already seeing, starting to see the leaders shift to this idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Explain though, what break this down for me.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have agents. I want to use these agents. I'm going to actually have a Mac Mini right next to me. That's my desk side computer. My laptop computer is where I'm working. My desk computer is where the Mac Mini is where my agents are working. That means I now am doing a lot of processing locally. I might have models that actually sit on that Mac Mini that is agent is using.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

They're getting smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller.

[John C. Dvorak]

So my, if I can get a substantial percentage of the workload on those, boy, that's a great thing. What that does though is it's going to require a lot more network bandwidth because those agents are going to generate. You know, listen to this bull crap.

[Adam Curry]

Here we go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah, a lot, A lot more bandwidth because the Agents going to want

[Adam Curry]

to talk to our routers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Traffic that'll have to go back and forth between the data center. Oh, back and forth between the data center. Oh no. These agents aren't just talking amongst themselves. They're going to talk to talk amongst themselves on the Mac Mini, but they'll also talk to someone in the cloud. Oh, you need two gigabits now. And so I think you're going to have a. At this point, an agent workflow is a routing challenge, it is a trust decision and it's a telemetry event being. I need to make sure that I'm showing the traceability of where that agent is going, what it's doing and all those things together make this a coordination of intelligence. It's not just a, it's not just that. You're going to have one large model and one large data center and it's going to answer all your questions. So here we go, John. We're pitching now. So taking in mind what you all know, of course, Jevons Paradox. When we have these telemetry events, we're going to be rich. Just watch. It's going to be great. Invest now. Here's my, here's my PowerPoint.

[Adam Curry]

Well, what can you determine the telemetry threshold for the roi?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I can do that with the locally managed network operating protocol with the advanced network analysis language.

[Adam Curry]

Ah, I knew something. Yeah, I heard you could do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

My favorite, my favorite, my favorite one. Advanced Network Analysis language. Now there is good news. There's good news because finally we have something that AI is useful for. I fully support this. I think it's great. Call Dana Brunetti because we're going to kill Hollywood once and for all. It's interesting that this is a youtuber that is making the leap because you were pretty early investing in the creator space with full screen.

[Adam Curry]

Any.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean what did you learn out of that? And did you think that in the year 2026 we would see this run of digital native filmmaking talent making the leap not just to getting Hollywood style movies made, but getting big audiences? You know, Obsession just opened big and is keeps growing. And now we've got this other YouTube first movie movie that is gonna be big. It's called Back Room. Have you heard of these movies?

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's one. No, the only one I've heard of is the one that's actually playing in a theater. Yes, that's Back Rooms at the Tribeca Film Festival.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's Back Rooms is the one that's playing.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, it's something. Violets.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's.

[Adam Curry]

I'll get the title.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's a couple of them.

[Adam Curry]

Absolutely. Well, no, the only one playing in the theaters is the. Is the Viallest film.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's listen to the scene. This is. Who is this guy? I'll figure it out in a minute.

[Adam Curry]

They believed that you did? Yes, we.

[John C. Dvorak]

Look, you know, we have been huge

[Adam Curry]

believers in the creator economy and creator economy going back, I think we invested

[John C. Dvorak]

in full screen 14 years ago.

[Adam Curry]

Look, it's also, to be fair, it's no accident we are the only media company based in Silicon Beach.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our offices are in Playa Vista.

[Adam Curry]

We are across the street.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is silicon. Where is Silicon Beach?

[Adam Curry]

Down south is a Calabasas or someplace down Southern California.

[John C. Dvorak]

Calabasas.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. It's bull crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is great.

[Adam Curry]

YouTube is right over there.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm in Silicon Hills.

[Adam Curry]

Facebook is right over there. As a company, I'm deeply interested in technology. We've always been deeply interested.

[John C. Dvorak]

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Adam Curry]

What's happened is the movie's dreams of violence.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dreams of violence.

[Adam Curry]

And it's from an Iranian filmmaker and it's about Iran riots or killings or something like that. And it was very controversial. It's the first one accepted into film festival and there was a bunch of news stories on all the networks about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, now Hollywood is just like Silicon Valley, except instead of the. What is it? The Jarvan. I forgot the name already. The Jarvan principle. What was the guy?

[Adam Curry]

The Jarbo principle.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Jambo principle.

[Adam Curry]

Jambo. There you go. Poor Jambo guy. Principal Jambo guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now it's. Yeah, man, we want YouTubers. Get us YouTubers. We need more YouTubers.

[Adam Curry]

You can't just live on sequels. You can't just live on existing ip.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a terrible thing to do to the audience.

[Adam Curry]

I hope that there is a lesson to those big studios in both obsession

[John C. Dvorak]

and back rooms because they should be taking risks like that, you know, and if you go back to the big

[Adam Curry]

franchises which they making infinite sequels of

[John C. Dvorak]

are generally 15 to 30, 40 years old at this point. Half the audience wasn't born when they started. Yeah. And you know, what do you think the model is going to be? Do you think that it's possible that these YouTube first movies that, that they could reinvigorate people going to theaters to see it like vinyl, you know, like. Like everyone's all vinyl. Vinyl. Oh, no, you got to see this thing in the theater. Theater. You think that's possible? Could they. Could they do.

[Adam Curry]

I think it's possible. But not for a while.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's a couple of these. These movies happening. I. I mean, surely we can't just have people putting them out on YouTube and not making. You making YouTube pennies. That's not going to last.

[Adam Curry]

Well, the, the movie Dreams of Violets, they had protests out in front and everyone's moaning about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Really?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, because, oh, it's going to ruin Hollywood and we're all going to die. Die.

[John C. Dvorak]

Brunetti should be all over this.

[Adam Curry]

No, Brunetti probably is all over it. I haven't talked to him about it, but I'm sure he's all. He's not over all over.

[John C. Dvorak]

He should be producing this stuff. He should be producing. He should be. Hey, kid. Hey, kid. I'm gonna make you famous. You want to get rich? You want to get. Leave your wife rich?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stick with me. Gain a Brunet, babe. I'm.

[Adam Curry]

You want to get a. You want to get a job and you want to be a star.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I'm Dana Brunetti. That's not at all how he sounds, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

He sounds like him. Yeah, he sounds just like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not at all how Brunetti sounds.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he talks like this and he's not.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he doesn't look at all like he sounds either. You know, he.

[Adam Curry]

He looks dogs like this.

[John C. Dvorak]

He looks like a frat boy with a beard.

[Adam Curry]

He's got a big cigar. Usually smoking it. Hey, kid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, kid.

[Adam Curry]

So I. I have an AI story. Story that needs to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right.

[Adam Curry]

Played.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

This is a. This is a. An ode to Linda Lupatkin.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, all right, Linda.

[Adam Curry]

It's about AI job searches and what some. A little tidbit here is quite interesting.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Stanford just released the biggest study ever done on AI hiring tools. And it's uncovering this massive web that's answering the question all of us are asking, why does my resume keep getting rejected for jobs that I am completely qualified for? And I'm. To be honest, this study has changed the way I think about every application I've ever sent. 90% of companies are using AI to screen applicants before a human ever sees them. And the interesting thing is that most of these companies are using the same few vendors to do that work. Meaning it's the exact same tool just used in different companies. And it's probably everywhere that you have been applying. Here's how it actually works. You apply to a job and then the company sends your resume to a third party AI tool. And that AI platform gives you a score and Then it sends that score back to the employer. But that score doesn't disappear or get regenerated with every application you send. Sometimes it holds onto that score for 330 days. So when you apply to another company that uses that same platform, you're not getting a fresh start. You're just getting that same score again. And the research is real. They tracked over 4 million applications across 156 employers. And when they found that the people who had applied to multiple companies who were using the same AI tool to screen the rejection rate was a little too high to be coincidental. So they're calling it systemic rejection Study is called algorithmic Monocultures in Hiring if you want to check it out. But just know that if you've been sending applications out and hearing nothing back, it's probably not not your resume. And this is just another reminder that we're not living in some glitch. It's effectively one score for 330 days for every company that you're applying to. And this is why laws like the ones Colorado is passing right now are going to be imperative to the future of job applications and hiring. I'm going to continue to report on this, so follow like comment if you want to know more about this. People are actively working against you in your job search. And feel free to share this with anyone else who's being actively gaslit by AI on a daily basis.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's Image Makers Inc. With a K.

[Adam Curry]

Now I would say a couple. First of all, I did not edit that. I'm better than that. This is typical high tech way of saving money.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

They instead of having, you know, you get an application in and you scan it for the. The A for some score and you send the score back to the first company. Another thing comes in from the same person from a different company. Why bother scanning it?

[John C. Dvorak]

Same score.

[Adam Curry]

You already have the guys the score. Just send the same score on. So that's what they're doing. This is classic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why burn tokens on it? No, they're gonna do.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, why bur tokens when you could just. Hey, he's in the database. Send out that same score. Completely different resume, but so what?

[John C. Dvorak]

Keep them there for a year. It's good. All right.

[Adam Curry]

That's a year. And by the way, I doubt it. I'm sure that's permanent. It's like a credit score. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're done. You're toast. You're not ever gonna work again. Yeah, I gotta do these two peptide emails since we made such a big deal about It. We had so many lovely people writing in about.

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

Peptides.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, peptides.

[John C. Dvorak]

Peptides, yes. And so about 95% were telling me it's great. It's phenomenal. I inject myself twice a week. I'm on the Wolverine. This is the best thing ever. It's fixed my back. I don't doubt it at all.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'm sure it helps a lot of people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. But there's two emails I wanted to highlight, one from our senior medical student. He's written in before he's in Australia. He says, basically you buy this stuff online, but these peptides can be between 50 to 300% purity of the stated daily dose. This makes no difference for the fancy water peptides that people get a placebo from injecting them. I'm sure there's a lot of that going on, but for harmful drugs like this new Reta, as everyone calls it. Reta. This can kill people. I've seen otherwise healthy young patients coming in with symptoms of pancreatitis of unknown cause. Hey, Slim, until you ask about the peptide use, I had a young lady taking four times the recommended dose of retrotrudide. I can't retatrudide daily. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

This is stuff we talked about.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. This is not even mentioning the fact that her vials could have been 200% purity. So it could have been eight times the dose. Based on talking to patients, I would say around 10 to 20% of young Australians, 14 to 30 are taking peptides. With up to half considering it, this is a lot.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Fact is, I think this is a bigger thing than we suspect.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Fact is, most of these peptides are. I know people who get their peptides from their hair person. Just saying. Fact is, most of these peptides are showing promise in studies on rats and muscle cells in Petri dishes with minimal human safety trials other than Reddit and TikTok forums, these companies can get away with making millions selling these as it's not illegal here in Australia to sell research for research purposes only. Peter. Peptides with no recourse. Here's Some people take MSH to be more tan and it works well for this. But when you stimulate the melanochites on your skin, you stimulate the moles that are normally hanging out there. Most people have moles that could turn into melanoma. Okay, so there's all kinds of horrible things that can happen. Then we have boots on the ground from Patrick.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, wait, before you're done with that letter, I should mention I sent that letter to jc.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, that very one. I'm sorry, the one from Australia. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

And he says he thinks it's wrong what he says about the melanoma generator because it turns out that it might actually be just the opposite.

[John C. Dvorak]

Opposite might be. It might be.

[Adam Curry]

Sure, might be just the opposite.

[John C. Dvorak]

It might be.

[Adam Curry]

And he, and he cited some, some rationale that it. It would. Anyway, he says he's. It's dubious. So the, the argument.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, yeah, it might be. I don't know, might be.

[Adam Curry]

We don't know. And the fact is, the thing that bothers me about all this, of course, is people that are all concerned about eating whole foods and being careful about what they eat and ingest would just take these things off from a drug dealer. It's crazy.

[John C. Dvorak]

So now we have Patrick, who is pursuing his doctorate in chemistry. Right up your alley. He was listening to Thursday's show. He said, I heard you were interested in peptides. Well, since I'm pursuing this, I thought I could weigh in and tell you what I know. From a scientific perspective, the discovery and creation of GLP1 drugs is interesting. And they have gotten. Gotten pretty good from what they began as. When it comes to peptides as a drug, the hardest part is making sure they are not digested in the body. For the large majority, you cannot just eat peptides because your body will digest them like any protein you would get and from eating food and not into the bloodstream. This is why they are injected into the bloodstream and even then your body will break them down, although at a much slower rate. When it comes to peptides, which many people are using to biohack. Yeah, that's it. Outside of GLP1s, most of them come from Chinese companies, companies which have little to no studies, especially not in human trials. The rationale of using them to improve bodily function mainly comes from computational modeling, like climate change. The biggest issue for these is the actual production of the peptides themselves. That kind of goes along with what our previous boots on the ground said. Companies utilize E. Coli to produce the peptide. What? Using a process known as. As recombinant protein expression. I do this on a regular basis in the lab and it's actually a very efficient way of producing peptides and proteins. Insulin is produced using this method. The biggest issue with using this to create drugs for human use is the contamination of polysaccharides, which can create severe allergic reactions if injected into the bloodstream. Pharmaceutical companies are great at removing this and have testing to ensure that batches are not contaminated. The equipment to do this is very expensive, and I would bet that the Chinese companies that are producing peptides are not doing this.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Best price.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have friends that have had adverse reaction to these peptides and gotten sick from them. This is the biggest issue I see with peptides outside of the general ignorance on how they will interact with the body, as the biochemical pathways within the body are very complex and small changes can create big effects. So, Yeah. I mean, biohacking, that's what people are doing.

[Adam Curry]

And.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you don't need to email me and tell me these guys are full of crap and I don't know what I'm talking about, because guess what? I don't.

[Adam Curry]

But no, we don't. We're rank amateurs when it comes. All we're doing is presenting what we know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Or what we're told. Not even that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. What our producers tell us.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. What people. Yeah. And we're going to continue to do that for a while.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Because, I mean, it's a big deal.

[Adam Curry]

This is going on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So when people get all bent out of shape that now Eli Lilly is taking what they've basically been getting for 50 bucks from their hairdresser, they're now, you know, now they have to pay a thousand bucks a month. They're all bent out of shape, blah, blah, blah. But production matters. Quality matters.

[Adam Curry]

So I said, when it comes to vaccines, where there's no liability.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no, please. Well, since you inject this, can't they just call it a vaccine?

[Adam Curry]

Might as well.

[John C. Dvorak]

And how would the pill. How would this pill work better than injecting it? Mainlining that crack. Crap, baby. Come on, mainline it right into me.

[Adam Curry]

Actually doesn't make sense. What the chemist said doesn't make sense about the pill because they're just getting, you know, digested like any other protein.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, I'm. Here's what I'm worried about. You get this stuff, particularly if it gets approved by the fda, and before you know it, you're voting Democrat. I'm telling you, you got to be careful about this.

[Adam Curry]

I think you might be on to

[John C. Dvorak]

say you got to be careful with these things. But, yes, the Wolverine. The Wolverine combo is what everyone seems to like a lot. If you're working out a lot and you get ripped.

[Adam Curry]

Crazy ripped. Ripped.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I'm not a exerciser. I'm a walker. So I'm not going to get ripped anytime soon. I'm a podcaster. I got no time to exercise.

[Adam Curry]

Podcasters shouldn't be ripped. There's nothing worse. There's something sick about a ripped pot podcast.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tell that to Joe Rogan.

[Adam Curry]

Well, yeah, but Rogan was always. Yeah, but Rogan's also a UFC fighter. And by the way, which brings me to the. I finally got one more. It took forever to get a Sharpton clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, a Sharpton clip.

[Adam Curry]

Where he screws up of why that they're having these fights on the, on

[John C. Dvorak]

the White House lawn. The UFO and all. You have, whatever they call it. Ufo. Excellent.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Finally a new Sharpton jingle to use. Very good. Very good. I'm very happy.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you. Thank you. That took.

[John C. Dvorak]

Excellent job. Excellent job. Very happy with that. Oh, man.

[Adam Curry]

Ebola update.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait, I, I need to do my, my Ebola jingle. I need to, I need to. Oops. Ebola. Yes, Here we go. Ebola.

[Adam Curry]

Ebola. It has been with us two times in our lives. Now is the third. Now it's time to speak about Ebola. Ebola. Ebola.

[John C. Dvorak]

Security has been stepped up at Ebola

[Various Guests/Reporters]

treatment centers in eastern Congo. With extra unit UN peacekeepers and local police deployed, medical staff have faced growing hostility with reports of attacks on facilities.

[John C. Dvorak]

Richard Kogoi reports. The move follows threats against health workers in a region where distrust and misinformation about Ebola remained widespread. Security has been reinforced in Rompara and Mokomwalu in Ituri Province after incidents targeting treatment centers and medical staff. Troops will also gut smaller clinics receiving patients and supervise imperial teams. Alongside the security push, the government and aid partners are running outreach campaigns to counter false information and build public trust in communities where cultural beliefs have shaped views on illness and death. The WHO says nearly 500 cases are confirmed, including 82 deaths in the outbreak across central Africa. I have a follow on clip from CBS regarding a little misunderstanding standing after this outrage in Kenya in which two people were killed protesting a Trump administration plan to set up an Ebola facility only for Americans at a military air base. Secretary of State Marco Rubio now says that there has been a misunderstanding and that's about whether Americans would only be observed for symptoms if they've been potentially exposed in the region or if positive, whether they would be quarantined and then treated for the longer term. We're not actually asking Kenya to set up treatment for Americans. I think the one that's been very controversial is a misunderstanding. There is a facility that the Kenyans are allowing us to open. If there are any Americans that are exposed, yes, potentially exposed, they will be transferred to this facility for observation. And he said that they would now be removed from Kenya now to either Europe or the United States. United States to be treated. Notably, he did not say the facility was entirely off the table. And flight radar has been tracking US military flights flying towards an air base about 125 miles north of Nairobi. That air base is called Laikipia. This was before a Kenya High Court judge blocked the facility, at least temporarily, but also after that judge blocked the facility. After those protests broke out on June 1, Kenya's Prime Minister, William Ruto said that it would be good for the country's own Ebola preparedness and said that the US and Kenya have had a friendship for the past 30 to 40 years. But many Kenyans feel that this is the Trump administration outsourcing American health risks to their own home country. And a high level medical contact of mine in Nairobi told me that the expectation is that this US Facility will go ahead regardless of what any high court says. I mean, don't you. Don't you think it's time for a repeat of the Ebola flight coming in and everyone's all got their hazmat suits on and the dude hops out like, I got Ebola, hello, hello.

[Adam Curry]

Jumps on a bicycle and takes off?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Bye, bye.

[John C. Dvorak]

We didn't play this clip the other day, but it's. It's relevant, I guess, now.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Two research scientists have been around, arrested and charged with smuggling MPOX into the United States. Vincent Munster and Claude Quay work at the National Institutes of Health biosafety lab in Montana. According to prosecutors, the pair traveled back to the US from the Republic of Congo, where there was an outbreak of impacts when they went through customs. CBP officers questioned them about a large plastic case they had. They allegedly lied to the officers about what was inside. After investigating and testing, the FBI found vials of deactivated impox virus, chickenpox virus, and human DNA. The men face up to five years in prison.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, the scandal isn't so much that they did this. Five years. You imagine Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak show up at the airport. What you got there, man? Nothing. Well, let's take a look. Oh, you got like Mpoke. You got human DNA. We would be locked. This would be. We would be locked away forever. But. Oh, they're nih. Oh, it's okay. Let them just go. One of them is a Dutch guy, is. I find this scandalous.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe, Yeah, I think you're right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe five years. Who. Who knows? I mean, okay, it's inactive or deactivated. Whatever she said.

[Adam Curry]

That's what they said.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, exactly like, no, I don't like this. Lock those guys up. Can't be doing that. Okay, let's see. Oh, this was kind of funny. This is about our favorite prop bet app. We have two. Kalshee being one.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Federal investigators are examining the prediction market trades of former New York Republican Congressman George Santos. NPR's Bobby Allen reports. It's the latest case raising questions about insider trading on the betting sites.

[John C. Dvorak]

Four months after George Santos had a

[Adam Curry]

seven year wire fraud prison sentence commuted

[John C. Dvorak]

by President Trump, he took to social media.

[Adam Curry]

I'm going to be there for the state of the union in the gallery, guys.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just chill.

[Adam Curry]

Trolls.

[John C. Dvorak]

What he didn't say publicly is that he was betting tens of thousands of dollars on the prediction market site Couchy that he would not attend before it

[Adam Curry]

was revealed he did not go.

[John C. Dvorak]

He cashed out.

[Adam Curry]

That's according to three sources with direct

[John C. Dvorak]

knowledge of Santos Santos's trades. The Justice Department and the Commodity Futures

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Trading Commission are investigating.

[John C. Dvorak]

When reached by npr, Santos said the investigations were news to him. He said, I'm not saying yes, I'm not saying no when asked if he has an account on Kaushi. Oh, man. How low IQ are you if you do that? Well, this is. I can make money quick.

[Adam Curry]

Is it illegal?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, isn't it insider trading by definition?

[Adam Curry]

Shout the session sec. There's no SEC involved in this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not yet.

[Adam Curry]

And it's with insider training. You're the guy people are betting on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he bet on himself.

[Adam Curry]

You don't think that the basketball guys do this constantly?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I sprained my ankle. I can't play.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right. They get in trouble for it, do they?

[Adam Curry]

But from the league.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. True. Oh. Wall Street Journal. Trump urges Pulte to fire intel employees. Here we go. Here's the. Here's the.

[Adam Curry]

You're right. Here we go. The bull in the China shop.

[John C. Dvorak]

The chainsaw weed whacker. Yeah. Oh, this is going to be so much fun. It's going to be great. It be good for the show.

[Adam Curry]

It should be.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I find all kinds of stuff.

[Adam Curry]

So they. I'm sorry, I was going to say the World Cup. We got a clip on Iran. They, they gave him visas, but I have a bunch of. I have a couple of screwy clips here. Did you. I'm going to ask. This could be an. Ask. Adam. What is the gayest city in the United States?

[John C. Dvorak]

The gayest city in the United States.

[Adam Curry]

It's Gay Pride month. I got a gay pride clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I mean, instinctively you want to say, say San Francisco, but somehow I don't think it's the Gayest.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think there is one. I think New York would be it, personally. Which.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which.

[Adam Curry]

Or Atlanta. Atlanta is very gay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which clip is it? Which clip?

[Adam Curry]

This is the mayor, Mayor Bowser. The. The mayor of Washington, D.C. oh, well, she claims that Washington, D.C. the capital of the United States of America. Well, play the clip.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

51 years of pride in the future. 51st state. And both movements are rooted in the same belief. Every person deserves to be seen, heard and fully represented. We're celebrating Pride month in the gayest

[John C. Dvorak]

city in the world. Well, let's be fair. We do have some a gays in D.C. see, you know, so you bring in a besant, there's going to be a whole bunch of other people who follow around. I can see. Do you think Bessant will be out there at Pride with his chaps? With his chaps.

[Adam Curry]

No,

[John C. Dvorak]

he was, he did not do a good job, man. The other day. Let me see, where is it? He was, he was being grilled. Let me see. Here we go.

[Adam Curry]

You know, you think with all the experience he's had, it's no good. He'd be better.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, he's no good. Listen to this.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Why are you allowing President Trump and his family to have complete immunity from being audited?

[John C. Dvorak]

Again, since you're a lawyer, you will understand that the U.S. treasury and the IRS are represented by the Justice Department and the acting attorney general.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Yes, but I, I just mentioned a Supreme Court case. That doesn't bar you from testifying. It's pretty clear to me, though, however, that you're not interested in answering questions. You're interested in arguing. Let me ask you this question. If President Biden amended a prior tax return and claimed that he was owed $1 billion, do you think that that would be audited or should it be audited?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not going to talk about any. Any the.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Because you're not really here to answer questions. I don't understand why you wouldn't audit that. And I don't understand why you wouldn't do the same for President Trump. So the ruling, the ruling by the

[John C. Dvorak]

Justice Department, that's specific knowledge of an audit of President Trump.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Excuse me. It's my time. I'm not here to ask me questions. I'm here to ask you questions. And hopefully you're here to try to answer some of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man, he's. It got even worse where he's like, he's, he's, he literally clutches. Well, he didn't. He was. If he had pearls, he'd be clutching him like this is an outrage.

[Adam Curry]

Can't Rubio take him aside? Rubio is the guy that's good at this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, and Rubio is good at this.

[Adam Curry]

But.

[John C. Dvorak]

But Besson has to answer and he's just no good at it. I don't know. I don't understand. I mean, he just. He's chokes, choke, choke.

[Adam Curry]

He.

[John C. Dvorak]

Listen to this.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

I'm curious to know who counts as Trump's family for the purposes of this immunity. Is it his children, his in laws, his grandchildren, his second or third cousin, his great, great grandchildren? Do you know the answer to that question, Mr. Secretary?

[John C. Dvorak]

Again, I imagine you have the Justice Department phone number. I suggest you call them.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

I'm not the one that runs the Department of the treasury or that oversees what is happening with this immunity that has been.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not the one either. We follow. We follow the instructions of our lawyers and we obey the law.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

I hope that you're proud of your performance today, Mr. Secretary, because I think, I think it's pretty safe to say.

[John C. Dvorak]

I hope she gets some social media

[Various Guests/Reporters]

clips, that this is probably, probably the most corrupt Treasury Department in our nation's history.

[John C. Dvorak]

I am going to dance around questions. I'm going to have to take exception with that.

[Adam Curry]

No, I'm going to write a stern letter to the Times

[John C. Dvorak]

and I'm going to write an op ed about you. You will be in deep, deep kimchi lady. I am going to dance around questions to protect Trump.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Americans are suffering in Trump's spiraling economy and inflation is now rising faster than average hourly wages. Gas prices are at an all time high with the war in Iran.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know what's going on with him. You know what it is? Low T. That's what's happening here.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe peptides are needed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Anything, Anything. Oh, my goodness. Because I'm a Besant fan, but this is bad, bad. It's just bad. No good. Yeah, I hope you get some good social media clips out of this.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, very lame. And he's got that nervous sound to his voice is no good. Hey, I want to play this clip. I've been holding it, but I just want to play this because I just think this is a technology that needs to be discussed more.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

The X59. I don't know if you've seen pictures of this thing. This is a new jet.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mm, no, I haven't.

[Adam Curry]

I'll have to look at it. It's a jet that can go Mach 1 point something. It goes past the speed of sound with no sonic boom.

[John C. Dvorak]

How. How does it even work?

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's what I'd like to know. But it's. If you look at the design of the thing is loopy looking.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh it looks like, like a Concord

[Adam Curry]

except with the blorbs. It's just cool. It's cool looking, let's put it that way. But at the same time. But it doesn't I guess stir up enough. I don't know. I have no idea. The explanation is not in this report or anyplace else. NASA's X59 research aircraft is designed to fly at supersonic speeds without producing a loud sonic boom. This month the X59 will fly supersonic in test flights at around 43,000ft in altitude. That will be followed by a mission conditions. That's a flight at Mach 1.4 speed and an altitude of roughly 55,000ft. NASA's goals here are to have the aircraft fly over US communities to gather data from the public about its quiet supersonic operation.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have to ask the book of knowledge, why does the X59 aircraft not produce a sonic boom? I mean we can sit here and we can just be yapping at each other, but let's ask the book of knowledge, who knows all things in the universe. Universe. And so here we go. According to the book of knowledge, the X59 reduces sonic booms by shaping acoustic pressure waves, preventing shock waves from merging into a single boom and creating instead a gentle sonic thump. Its 38 foot extended nose, carefully shaped fuselage and top mounted engine use the aircraft body as a shield to direct and distribute dissipate shockwaves. Thus it has been written.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well that's a sonic thump.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right, a sonic.

[Adam Curry]

Now that means I would love to have them fly this thing over the Bay area. Let us know. Yeah, and I want to see so we can hear the sonic thump. Because when I was a kid, when I was a kid living in Centerville, there used to be this was pre some point or other you'd hear sonic booms because there was no big deal. It's like yeah, so what? And you know they finally put some laws against it after they. I guess it broke a few windows here and there around the country. But it would be allow I know exactly what a sonic boom sounds like because I was. Well kind of.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can remember that rattles the windows.

[Adam Curry]

It's a loud boom. It's boom.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And it's like okay, well that's. There was a jet. So I want to hear the sonic thump.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now here's the thing. I have been in the Concorde twice Which does create booms.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's why I wasn't allowed to fly over much of the country. Inside the aircraft, nothing very would there be. I'm just. Well, you'd think that if it was boom outside you'd hear it on the inside. But you don't hear it is a big letdown.

[Adam Curry]

Was like. Like a. It's like a good bass note. You know, you can't really hear it near the speakers, but these things are loud.

[John C. Dvorak]

Boom. But I'm in the plane. I mean, I'm in the plane. I thought I would hear it. I remember the pilot.

[Adam Curry]

I was in a plane, it got hit by lightning. You could hear that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard British Airways Concord. We'll be doing Mach 2. Unfortunately, there will be no spectacular booms. That's nice. It's a very comfortable travel. Enjoy yourself. However, the plane will elongate by 11 in inches in flight. Enjoy. That thing would get longer while it was.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. The SR71 used to change its size and shape during high speed flight.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Which is why it leaked gas jet fuel leak all over the Runway. Because the thing see only sealed up at speed.

[John C. Dvorak]

So Logan 5 says no. Adam, this is what troll. You fly faster than the sonic wave that the plane creates. Oh, that makes sense.

[Adam Curry]

Ah, that does make sense.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it does. You know what else makes sense? The fact that I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the chainsaw weed whacker. Say hello to my friend on the other end, everybody, Mr. John C. John C. Yeah, right.

[Adam Curry]

In the morning, April swam create the marshma. Throwing the ground, feeding the air. Subs in the water. Dames and knights out there.

[John C. Dvorak]

It is good to have the noise makers back.

[Adam Curry]

Nice.

[John C. Dvorak]

You got all your noise back. I've been missing that for months. So nice. Very nice. 1658, listening live at the peak trollage here at the no agenda show with no agenda stream. No agendastream.com. that means a lot of people are listening [e-mail], but a lot of people may also be using a modern podcast app. Please consider doing this for your own sanity. Do not be waiting around for the podcast to drop. The legacy apps will take 15, 30 minutes, sometimes an hour. It can be even worse, but with the pod ping technology. Oh no. Pod ping technology. You'll get immediate notification within 90 seconds. Immediate. And of course you can't stream anything live in these legacy apps. You need a modern podcast app for that. So when we go live, the bat signal fires. You see the notification, you tap, you're listening live. You can never forget us. We're always here for you. This podcast soon to celebrate its 19th anniversary in October. Is it October 8th? Somehow I have the feeling it's October 8th.

[Adam Curry]

26th.

[John C. Dvorak]

26th. At the end of the day, October, our 19th year, man, we should make it an even 20 and quit. What do you say?

[Adam Curry]

Well, they're gonna get all the lady folk upset. Don't say. Don't say these things.

[John C. Dvorak]

But, I mean, why don't we go out on.

[Adam Curry]

Just go till we drop on the show.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what I'm saying. I don't. I don't. All right. I. I want to go out on top, man. You know? Like, I want people to go in the saddle. Yeah. Instead of people going, oh, well, they died. I'm like, oh, man, I miss them. We need them right now. You know, we could sit there, we could do bonus shows for extra money.

[Adam Curry]

No, you want us emergency pods.

[John C. Dvorak]

Emergency pods. We can just do emergency pods. There you go. Yeah, yeah. We just do Emergency pods. Like 20 minutes. Emergency pod. Trump said something. Emergency pod. Anyway, I don't want to get any. I don't want. Do your female folk actually listen? Mine doesn't listen anymore.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mine doesn't listen.

[Adam Curry]

Mimi, listen. She's the only one left. Jay will listen if she knows something about her is going to be talked, discussed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Do we. Oh, yeah. She sent me a selfie.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. Well,

[John C. Dvorak]

I said, send me a selfie. Tina wants to see what you look like. Yeah. She's so cute and glad she looks like her mom. Value for value. That's where I was. That's right. Is the new international lifestyle that we have pioneered and been living for these

[Adam Curry]

almost 19 years, living the Mac and cheese life.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that means that we don't force ads in your face. We don't make you subscribe to get the bonus content tent. We also don't have, you know, like, tote bags or anything like that. We had them, but they were toxic, so we got rid of them. They were from China. Never. Never. No one ever got a tote bag. Instead, we just say, hey, what do you think? Did you get any value out of the show? If you did, send some value back to us. We love time, we love talent, and we love treasure. And the time and talent part works in many ways. You can do it like, we had two medical folk right in. This is very valuable to the show. We appreciate stuff like that. In this case, when it comes to the artwork, not only did we get a fun piece of art, we also got a cool movie out of it. See, this is what we have to remember. Whenever we choose Scaramanga's art, he always makes a cool movie. Did you see the little video he did?

[Adam Curry]

I missed it.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's on the tweeters. Check it out. So we titled the episode the Kennel Index. How is the kennel, by the way? Is the kennel it draining? What's. What's.

[Adam Curry]

I didn't ask.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you got to ask. We got.

[Adam Curry]

I know. It's how indexes work.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, we have to know. Can we put some AI into our index? The Kennel Index.

[Adam Curry]

We got to put a camera at the kennel.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, yes.

[Adam Curry]

There you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like the old coffee pot cam. Remember back in the day?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, we could see the coffee pot bird cam.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bird cams. Bird cams, yes. I had the Empire State cam for a while. This was done by Francisco Scaramanga. He is an expert in usually babes. And it was just too funny what he did. He had this goofy looking dude, like a 50s like mad men type dude, all jacked on peptides. A big no agenda testosterone pot next to him and he's rubbing the cream on his balls, which is a football, a basketball and a soccer ball. Accentuated by the text, just rub it on your balls. I mean, everybody likes laughed. Everybody thought this was great. I think the fact that he's wearing short white shorts with his leg spread kind of helped, made a little. Made a little extra gay. And there were a couple other people who did similar things. Let's see, Looking at no agenda. Artgenerator.com we had. Oh, wow, we got a lot of screw worm stuff for today. Where was it? Wow. I had to scroll away. Oh, we had. We had Darren o'. Neill.

[Adam Curry]

Then, you know, of course Darren had a couple of good pieces. There's also Blue Acorn had the.

[John C. Dvorak]

The teabag. We like that. We, we. It was a close runner up.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the teabag was second. Yeah, I would say close runner up.

[John C. Dvorak]

That would be second. And then it was a lot of women made to smile and they were pretty good too, but just nothing quite as good as a Scaramango. This piece, I thought that was. We loved it. We really did. It was. We laughed. Did we laugh out loud or did we laugh out loud?

[Adam Curry]

I think we laughed out loud.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think we lulled, for sure.

[Adam Curry]

It was silly. Silly.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that's what we love about it. We love silly. It's great. Now in the treasure department. This is where you can go to noagendadonations.com and we really appreciate it when people do that. And you can send us whatever you think the show is worth. People love numerology. And of course, we don't really know what's valuable to you. You know, $5 may be a lot of money to you. Well, we appreciate that just as much as someone who sends $5, $500. Because that may be different for them. It's value for value. Somehow it all kind of evens out. It's a bit of a roller coaster, this international lifestyle, but it evens out and we feel good about it. I love the spammer we have on, on our no Agenda insta. Who was telling us, I never understand this. Donations will go up if you tell everybody that Tucker should be president. He's the true representative Maga. And the far left and the far right have to get on board with everything anti Israel. I mean, do people really think that that works?

[Adam Curry]

Can you imagine thinking that Tucker, I mean, Tucker Carlson doesn't want to be president? I mean, maybe talked into running, but it's a farce. And they're associating him with like Spencer Pratt and Trump because you have, oh, you got these guys that they didn't have any experience. Trump has been running for president since the 1980s. He's talked about it. Yakty.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

New book. New book for at least 16 years before he actually ran.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And so then. And it was predicted by the Simpsons. I mean it wasn't like some surprise. And, and he's always been somewhat political. The other guys that are high profile is people like Ronald Reagan, who is high profile. But he was a governor of California. Okay, this, let's discount that he was the head of the, of the, of the Screen Actors Guild, I believe. And he was a left winger, turn right winger, which a lot of these guys do that. And Spencer Pratt has got a bone to pick. He's very dedicated to trying to fix Los Angeles. It's just a mayoral thing. It's not a big deal in terms of like national spotlight, like Tucker being president. It's stupid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me, let me read this guy's post. His comment verbatim. It's pretty funny. The Israel issue is going to drastically reduce donations. I've been listening to no Agenda since Obama and it's hard to hear them sound so out of control.

[Adam Curry]

Touch.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ancient boomers. Every time. The ancient, ancient boomers. Every time, Every time the Israel issue comes up. Israel is the most important issue of times. John and Adams seem to like the idea of Rubio for president instead of Tucker, which is insane. The next president must be actively anti Israel. Not anti Jewish people, just anti Israel. Great.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And this guy's writing constantly. Oh, yeah, He's a troll.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, can't you block him?

[Adam Curry]

Maybe I. Jay would know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not that you should. I mean, I think it's not gonna block him.

[Adam Curry]

He's okay. I mean, I think it's hilarious adding some. I told. I told him the same I tell. I told. Jade is the. Is the. Our social media person.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, Jay is more than our social media person.

[Adam Curry]

No, but that's. No, that's one of her jobs. Jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And so she's doing the whole thing. And I told her, when you get these things, what did I say about this guy? She says, this guy's annoying. And so I said was. And I said. And I wrote a little ditty up for her to just keep posting, which is a reference to the no Agenda mission.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Go to noagendashow.net and read the mission statement. Statement. You'll find a link to it. And that's the answer. We don't promote anybody for president. We think Rubio's gonna be the president. That's not. We're not. We're not taking part in his campaign.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no. Let me read the mission statement. Where is our mission statement? You sure it's on there?

[Adam Curry]

Of course it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where's the mission statement?

[Adam Curry]

It's down. Go to the bottom. It has all those links at the bottom. You see the mission statement statement.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, you say that it's on the left. I'm looking at the left. I'm looking at the left. Says no Agenda. I'm looking at the. Oh, no Agenda mission statement. Here we go. Oh, my goodness. Who wrote this?

[Adam Curry]

AI. You've seen this before. I had you put it there.

[John C. Dvorak]

The no Agenda is a podcasting llc. Whoa. Whose goal is to deconstruct the news media to reveal slanted stories. And the reasoning for slanted or misleading reporting. The purpose is not to critique or discredit news reports, but through media deconstruction, to find the actual underlying story, to give the audience a realistic understanding of current affairs and events and provide a normalized, objective understanding of them. Now, unfortunately, people don't like what we conclude. Some people. No Agenda has no political motivations and does no original reporting, but does do original research on stories as needed. On occasion, the show will read and disseminate what it calls boots on the ground reporting, which replaces letters to the editor, Dear Abby, and is used as background information. In some cases, outsiders will be contacted to clarify a fact to improve analysis. These boots on the ground reports are provided by the audience of producers who voluntarily contribute these messages to the show. There's a lot more. More here. That's right. We have adopted an open source approach to its content and trademark name notice, allowing third parties to leverage the show to produce related products such as branded T shirts and mugs. This also means that anyone can post the final produced show on their own sites. Yes, that's right. That's right. Correct. I'm all in. That's very good. That's our mission statement. Go read the whole thing people, so it's worth it. So that is the time and talent. Now we love the treasure, obviously, so it keeps the fires burning here at HQ. And we always thank everybody who sends us $50 or more. Of course, we see the spreadsheet, we see everybody under $50, but there's a lot of people who don't want to be mentioned. So for anonymity and brevity's sake, we don't do all of those, but we do thank people, specifically those who are able to send US$200 or more between 2 and 300. Not only are we guaranteed to read your note, but we'll also give you the title of Associate executive producer. And $300 or more gets you an executive producership, which you can see thousands of people have done by going to IMDb.com, you can also search for it on LinkedIn, Twitter. You see people all over the place. And we have a peerage ladder $1,000 in aggregate over it doesn't matter how many years or decades. In this case, you can become a knight or dame of the no Agenda round in Allentown, New Jersey with Sir Dr. Vasanth, Lord of Cotland. And he sends us $1,030.26, so that is likely $1,000. He added the fees. We're very thankful for that. He says itm health karma for all. Sir Dr. Vasanth, Lord of Kotlin, future Red Knight. Well, sir, you in fact will be a Red Knight today. And here is that Health karma for all. He's a doctor after all.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

You've got karma

[Adam Curry]

indeed. Onward with Richard geart in Macomb McComb, Michigan. The same thing. 103026ITM I've been a $4 a week contributor. Very popular, by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

But enjoy the show so much. I could not resist becoming a radio Red Knight. Please call me Sir Richard the Open Hearted. Oh that is good. Thanks for your courage, perspective and insights. Richard Gerhardt Rich Gerhardt in Macomb, Michigan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Onto Sir Anonymous. The Viscount of the ADFC and Arapahoe county in Aurora, Colorado 369.99. Sent in a note which is very nice. It is very colorful. Did it on Mac paint I think this note from pseudonymous the Vicon of ADFC in Arapahoe county for the show. Thank you for your courage and your continued deconstruction. It's been far too long since my last tithing. Please de douche me happy to do that.

[Adam Curry]

You've been de douched.

[John C. Dvorak]

No jingles, no karma, Sir Anonymous Vicon of the ADFC in the Arapahoe County. He does say below here about this donation. The amount of 369.99 is something I like to call the triple intel threat. That's oh treat. I'm sorry? Triple intel treat. He even says that's treat, not threat. Triple intel treat. As I've donated this amount before, a brief explanation may suffice. Is related to Executive Order 12/ Triple 3. Ah. EO12333. Some of the no Agenda spooks may know what that is. But the number 12333 also has special meaning to the numerologists. And amongst us here you have the power of three in many forms. 123.33 times three is 369.99. Wow. Perhaps you noticed that 36999 is three followed by six which is three three. And the Jews did it. I'm sorry. That's usually what comes out of those things. Followed by 9 which is 3333 ending with 99 which is 33 3. The guy is really into his numbers. John, did you mute yourself? Looks like we won't make the 20 years. You're back.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

What happened? That took a long time.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know why?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm curious.

[Adam Curry]

I moved the chair, unplugged the router which was tangled up in the chair, the wire on the floor, floor. Pulled the thing down and then jerked it around so much I couldn't get it back on. So I had. So I'm thinking I could get it going, but no. And so wow. Something got bent. So I ended up having to switch networks to a Wi Fi third backup that I have downstairs which is an AT&T connection.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is a boomer move if I've ever heard one. Awesome. Awesome. I'm going to leave some of that in the show.

[Adam Curry]

That was.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was pretty good.

[Adam Curry]

It was ludicrous.

[John C. Dvorak]

Anyway, thank you very much, sir Anonymous. The Viscount of the ADFC in Arapahoe county for your many, many number threes.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Now we go to Sir Carl of Cary which he calls himself such because he's in Cary, North Carolina. 3437 75. He says my wife saw the Sad puppy which was the last newsletter and I explained what it was about. She actually told me I should send in a donation and it's been too long since the last one. Good woman you married.

[John C. Dvorak]

You did.

[Adam Curry]

Also, I want to make sure you guys don't run out of what a ball. Oh, ball Cream.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Ball.

[Adam Curry]

That's a joke for you. That's a reference. Turns to the. Yeah. Thank you for your courage. I'm sorry I said that, sir. Kerry, Carla Carey.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, Balkri. There's Dennis Cadle. Tampa, FL 333.33 and Dennis says we have been on such a journey over the six weeks since we decided to start supporting the podcast. And Adam gave us a shout out for the pain relief gel. Seems like the pain, like pain is the one thing everyone has in common now nowadays. Oh, this is Manuka Gold, people. We began Manuka Gold with the idea that everyone should have the freedom to handle and manage their own pain when however they want without having to be at the mercy of a never ending gatekeepers of medical system that often rejects natural solutions even if they work. If you've heard about Manuka Gold and our products in a previous show but haven't pulled the trigger, we want to give you that extra nudge ahead of father's Day to put pain relief into your hands rather than rather that be for migraines, muscle pain, back pain or really any other type of topical pain. No, it doesn't yet work on pains in the ass, but we're working on it. Go to manukagold.com, enter the exclusive code Adam20 at checkout to receive 20% off. Take control of your own pain. As of right now, all orders are $49. Get a free travel size. Yes, thank you for sending it to me. I realize you do have them relief gel. See, we're listening. We are doing product development now. John, I'm so proud of us. Thank you as always, John and Adam. Thank you Dennis for your product and your support.

[Adam Curry]

Onward with Sir Iraq Rock Siroc Rock in Brigantine, New Jersey. And he sent a note in that would jump to this actually comes from a kennel bay letterhead. John Enclosed assortment of eclectic stuff. Yes, he sent in a.

[John C. Dvorak]

An assortment of eclectic stuff.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Yeah. So he's got like a. Like a. Some old stamp, some old stamps, some. Looks like a. Some sort of chit from 1928 Germany. Ration slip or something. A book called the vineyards of Hitler's vineyards. And it's all good stuff. Please apply. Check for producer credit 333. No jingles, no karma. By the way, if you are a collector, check out the live auction website, whatnot.com. maybe a good show tip of the day or a way for Adam or you to offload unwanted stuff. Smiley face, sir erock rock, Eric a.k.a.

[John C. Dvorak]

all right, wonderful. Now we have our first associate executive producer with $250. Sir Woody the Phantom from Madison, New Jersey. A lot of New Jerseyites. Hello, New Jersey. And sends a night note which I have here. ITM John Adam. Thank you for your hard work. I'm glad John is back and better than ever. Jury's out. Mimi, actually, you are better than ever. I've never. Like you are today and the last show. Fantastic. And now you got your noisemakers back. I can. I can. I can just sense the joy. Are you sleeping at the house as well or just doing the show there?

[Adam Curry]

Well, my bedroom's a mess, so I can't. I'm sleeping up at the other house. But the. So I'm going to this cardiac rehab. It's special for, you know, people that had issues.

[John C. Dvorak]

Issues?

[Adam Curry]

My legs are like rubber.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rubber?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I got on one of these machines for an hour.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no.

[Adam Curry]

Do they have.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do they have that mask on your face, too? You got a.

[Adam Curry]

No, luckily, nobody's masked up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not me. One of those that measures your lung pressure.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, but. No, you have an ekg. Yeah, Hookup. And then they keep checking your blood pressure so you don't drop dead on one of the machines.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that would suck.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, I guess it's happened.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you're gonna die, do it on the show. Don't do it on the treadmill at the hospital. That's no good.

[Adam Curry]

You know, so there's a bunch of. Yes, I know. I realized I have enough background in the biz to know to do this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Know what to do. You know how show business works. Exactly. This is dark, people. Onward with Sir Woody. The Phantoms. Note, Mimi did a great job covering in John's absence. I enjoy the tips of the day. They are very useful. What is the name of the song that plays on the outro? It's quite lovely. Yes. That is. Oh, goodness. Keep forgetting. It's this. I think it's this Starland Vocal Trio. Let me see. See,

[Adam Curry]

you got that. That was the olden days. That those were all public domain songs, that you somehow created a website so you could use them. Right?

[John C. Dvorak]

That I don't remember.

[Adam Curry]

I do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me see if I can find it. I should. I should. I'll find it for next show.

[Adam Curry]

It's something like pod free or something called.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, oh, you mean the. The.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

The.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, goodness.

[Adam Curry]

Do you even keep up with all the stuff you're doing?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you know, it's. Hey, low T. What can I tell, you know?

[Adam Curry]

Hey, there was a show. There was an operation called Pod Show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

You ran it. Do you know that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I do. It was Pod Safe Music Network. Thank you. The Pod Safe Music Network. You remember?

[Adam Curry]

Thank you. To somebody in the chat room who came up with it.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I said myself. I wasn't even looking at the chat room.

[Adam Curry]

Thank yourself.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm still. I'm still looking for the. The music, and I can't find it. I mean, I have the music, obviously, but the. It just says, na closer tune easy. But that's not the. I'll find it for you. I'll find it. Okay? Promise. I'll find it. And so I'll find it. I'd like some house search karma doggy style, please. Well, yes, we got that.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Karma.

[Adam Curry]

Where was that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Huh?

[Adam Curry]

Which one did you read?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, the. The note. The third note.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, so I'm on La Jolla Salt Corp. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Correct.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he's in La Jolla, California.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

La Jola to you outsiders. $210.60. Normally, we would interrupt this regularly scheduled broadcast broadcast to recommend the superlative small batch handcrafted sea salt scrubs from la jollasalt.com but not today.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, people.

[Adam Curry]

As of this writing, we are less halfway to seeing John's Dvorak Studio. If you have an Instagram account, please follow no Agenda Podcast. Podcast on Instagram right now. It costs nothing. See the mic that takes the bumps.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep. Yeah, I'm quite aware.

[Adam Curry]

The chair that makes the squeaks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep. You're back home. Back home. Yep. Hello.

[Adam Curry]

Bake a light phone that brings the rings and the jar of lozenges. Well, that lozenge, we're on the brink of hit. It's the season of reveal, people, and all it takes is a follow. Go podcasting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Go podcasting.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you found it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I found it. Yeah. I actually. I asked the robot, and the robot is now looking for what? The name of the track Is Go, robot, go. Go, robot, go. Eli the coffee guy. 206 and 7 cents. He's always giving us $200 along with the date. Six, seven. That's a six. Seven. I said it. Gentlemen, your compliments put an ear to ear grin on my face when you said I not only make great coffee, but I write great copy, too. Coming up with something fun and original isn't easy. But you do it every single show twice a week for 18 years, and you make it look effortless. The least I can do is bring my A game when I return some value. The other value I return is great coffee. For fellow producers, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order.

[Adam Curry]

Order.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stay caffeinated, says Lehi the Coffee Guy. Levi. Eli the coffee Guy.

[Adam Curry]

Leelai Leli.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's Le Li. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Onward with Are we at Linda Lupatkin, The Castle Rock, Colorado expert. 200 bucks. Jobs, karma. Your resume is about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't for. Hold on a second.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Man, you hanging in there?

[Adam Curry]

I'm getting parched. Parched?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Oh, wow. Okay. All right.

[Adam Curry]

No, take it.

[John C. Dvorak]

What? Take what? I thought you were going to do it.

[Adam Curry]

Read Linda's thing off so I don't cough to death.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, okay. I was doing something else. Yes. Linda's thing. Jobs, Karma. Your Resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't. We heard that earlier. We heard what happens. You get stacked in some AI for a year, so instead you want a resume that gets results. For that, go to ImageMakers Inc.com. linda helps professionals and executives position their experience so employees see their value. That's Image Makers, Inc. With a K. Linda Lou. Yes, she did. Duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Jobs, jobs, Jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, I'll wrap it up with Sir William of Bainbridge island in Bainbridge, Washington. Itm.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man. Oh, man.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. I just got. You're a mess all of a sudden. Dried out.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's okay. We're with you. We understand. We were on the treadmill, you know. It was bad.

[Adam Curry]

Sir William of Bainbridge island here. I've been traveling a lot for work the last couple of weeks, but as always, the no Agenda show keeps me up to date. Thanks for all you do. No jingles, no karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

And now we continue. Oh, first, I should say I want to thank these people properly. Thank you very much to all of our executive and associate executive Producers. These titles are real titles anywhere. Hollywood recognizes these types of titles, which can also be on your LinkedIn, your social media profile, but especially IMDb.com Go Do It. You're legit.

[Adam Curry]

Our formula is this.

[John C. Dvorak]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Shut up.

[John C. Dvorak]

I am very cognizant of the sounds you hear on today's podcast. I'm clearing my throat. John's hawking up a lung. I mean, people call us boomers, ancient boomers. And you know, all we're doing is helping them. We need to be careful. Can be careful with this. Now we would like to thank the rest of our supporters in the time talent treasure for $50 and above. Dame Danny Weed, California. California. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. $123.45. And I will say she laughed so hard during the HRT conversation. Thank you. Okay, sir H of S.F. no longer the gayest city in America. $100.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, he said what HRT conversation?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it was about the testosterone.

[Adam Curry]

What's HRT?

[John C. Dvorak]

Human

[Adam Curry]

hormone replacement.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, sir H of S.F. $100. We're trying to move to California. Move California from California to Japan in August. Previous attempt failed because of health issues. I could use John's hot pocket Karma to make sure it's a successful move. Well, I will give you a backup and a back. Oops.

[Adam Curry]

Hot pockets.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what I'll give you. All right, so you gotta.

[Adam Curry]

That'll do it.

[John C. Dvorak]

You got a hot. That'll help for sure. Hey, the boob donation. $80.08 8008 calculator. Kids, you know what that's about? Kevin McLaughlin. He is the archduke of Luna, Lover of America boobs. He's in Concord, North Carolina. Supports us every single episode and always says God bless America and melons. Marius. Marius Ovnagl who is in Lillestrem, I think in Norway. And they also a boob donation. And he says my last donation in my 30s. No jingles, no karma. Just want to be on the birthday list for starting the 40s on Monday. Keep on keeping on. All right. Marius Ashley Larson. Ham Lake in Minnesota. 6777 switch roof. My brother Chad. Chad Larson. In commemoration of his 49th trip around the sun. Scott Nuzzo Du Bois, Wyoming. I presume. It's Du Bois.

[Adam Curry]

It could be Dubois.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, please, it's Wyoming. $66.89. I would request a happy birthday shout out to my brother Craig, who turned 37 on the 6th. Thank you both for birthday.

[Adam Curry]

Birthday. Birthday.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jeroen Snelders. He's Dutch, but He's in Ennis, Texas. 66. Thank you. Albright Managed Networks, Carlsberg, Washington. 6526. In honor of my human resources, A.J. adding a grand human resource to the family. We want to welcome Adam to the family in the morning on 6526 by adding a 6526 donation. The Adam donation. Well, yes. Finally someone. And listen, got a kid named Adam. Very good. His middle name is Charles. David Cox is in Austin, Texas. 63, and a quarter. David Deloria, Santa Clarita, California. Small boobs. 6,006. Karma for Adams. Tender small boobs due to rubbing testosterone on his testes. Dumb shit. Yes, thank you.

[Adam Curry]

That's a good one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Another small boob donation from Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona. Dame Rita Sparks, NV. She's always there for us. $55.33. Double nickels on dine from Cameron Ling ling, North Branch, Minnesota. That's $55.10. Stefan Truckles in Seuss in Deutschland. 54. Brittany Miller, Trinidad, Colorado. See Brittany's name there a lot as well. 5272. Dame Nancy of the Confused in San Bruno, California. 5244. And she says donate. It's good for your soul and good for the show. Josiah Thomas Ankeny, Iowa. 51. And here, the 50s. Jorge Hernandez, Lake Stevens, Washington. David Selby and Jax, Mississippi wants a de douche.

[Adam Curry]

You've been de douched.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry, Is that Missouri? Mississippi? Is that Miss?

[Adam Curry]

No, no. Jackson, Mississippi. Very famous town.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got it right. Yay.

[Adam Curry]

You got it right. And you stopped.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I screwed myself up. Andrew Grasso in Mineola, New York. Fifty. Thank you. Edward Mazarek in Memphis, Tennessee. Stephen Ray. Could be Stefan, but I think it's Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington. Michael Shambeau in Topeka, Kansas. Garbage Man Dave in Elmhurst, Illino and Gretcha. Angel or Angel. Gretchen, Monrovia, Monrovia, California. Then I have no name with 50. Just no name. I had two apostrophes.

[Adam Curry]

Somebody with no name.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kerry Jackson, Watertown, Tennessee. And Walker Phillips rounds us out from San Rafael, California with $50. Thank you so much, everybody, for supporting the big best podcasts in the universe. You can take that to your grave. You helped us out, and you can do that anytime you want. It is value for value, after all. All you have to do is go to noagendadonations.com, just determine what kind of value you got out of the show and then send it Back to us. Noagendadonations.com. thank you all for your undying support. So there we go. We still say happy birthday to adam, born on June 5. Happy birthday. Welcome to the universe Human resource Scott Newso. Happy birthday to his brother who turned 37 yesterday, Marius Ovnago turning 40 tomorrow. Your last day in the 30s. And Ashley Larson wishes her brother Chad Larson a very happy birthday. He turns 49 years old. And we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. We do not have title changes, but we are blessed with. Behold the order of the heart, pure of purpose, right from the start, in the morning, brave and smart. The order of the heart. Yes. These are the order of the hearts Knights, Red Knights. In fact, one of them shall be knighted momentarily. Our two order of the hearts today go to Sir Dr. Vasanth, Lord of Cotland and Richard Gerhardt, very soon to be Sir Richard of the open hearted. Congratulations. Gentlemen. Behold the order of the heart, pure of purpose, right from the start, in the morning, brave and smart. The order of the heart and limited supply. Those are running out.

[Adam Curry]

Please stand clear of the closing doors.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have a layaway night coming up. So I'm going to read his note. It is Bobby Bow from Bluegrass, Iowa. And Bobby says, I'd like to dedicate my layaway knighthood posthumously to my dad, Hank. My dad became a no agenda listener after I punched him in the mouth in the summer of 2024. Sadly, my dad passed unexpectedly in March of 2025. There's never a good time, never an expected time. My dad was a conspiracy therapist and follower of Christ. It would mean the world to me to bestow this honor on him and have him recognized as sir hot Rod Hank of the Raccoon River Valley. Absolutely. Please make sure there's plenty of Tang and Shanghai spring rolls at the round table.

[Adam Curry]

Tang.

[John C. Dvorak]

I haven't heard Tang in a long time. If they possible, I know he'd love to hear the jingles. I got ants. And the backup to the backup to the backup. A backup and a backup to that backup. And a backup to the backup to the backup. Yeah, no problem. And we'll follow it with some karma.

[Adam Curry]

I got ants. I got ants.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, so now grab the blade, Mr. Dvorak. We have some nights to take care of you. Very nice. So, Sir Richard Gerhardt, step on up. And possibly in spirit, Hank, we are here to honor honor you. Thank you both very much for your support of the no Agenda show. Directly or indirectly, I am very proud to pronounce the Kate the as Sir Hot Rod Hank of the Raccoon River Valley and Sir Richard the Open Hearted. For you gentlemen we have hookers and blow rent boys and chardonnay. We got Tang and Shanghai spring rolls. Don't forget the beer and the blunts. The Rubin s Women in Rose, the Gay Skill and sake, the ginger ale gerbils, the breast milk and pablum and of course the mutton and the mead. It's all right here. Noagendarings.com is where you can pick them up. I'm sure your son will pick them up. Sir Hot Rod Hank and Sir Sir Richard the Open Hearted. You can pick it up yourself. Going to noagendarings.com anybody can go to this website. Take a look at it. You'll see the handsome no agenda night rings. Also for dames. They're signet rings. That means you can use the wax which we include in your package to seal your important correspondence. Very much like Zelensky sent to Putin. You know, I'm going to send you a letter, a sternly worded letter and I'm going to seal it with my wax. And it also is accompanied of with a certificate of authenticity. I did want to thank see I went to the P.O. box, our P.O. box here and I got a note from Sir Darius Unity. He is the. He always sends. He sends me a new copy of his book I keep giving away because I have a couple of them. It's the wartime snapshots. He's the guy who. Iraq vet and he published a book of pictures of him in Iraq.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yes, this is a. I wanted to thank him for giving. Yeah, he sent me one and one for Mimi. I wanted to thank him for that. And they're great. He's a good guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. His, his brand is war NT's war NTS and oh the book is updated. I didn't to want realize that. And he helps homeless and hopeless vets. And he also sent me a Florida gold back which is 1 2,000th of a Troy ounce. Did you get one of those?

[Adam Curry]

Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's cool. So what is that 1 2,000th of a Troy ounce? Like a buck? No, it's like two bucks. Yeah. How much is.

[Adam Curry]

No 1 2,000 is probably two bucks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, two bucks. It's nice. Thank you very much. Also thank you to Matt Benjamin who sent me his book Back to the beginning. He said well you can always use this qr. He's doing value for value with this book back to the beginning. He says you can always just scan this QR. Code Adam. Get the PDF and have your robot tell you what the book's about. But I'm actually enjoying it.

[Adam Curry]

That's an interesting idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Wisdom from Genesis for modern life. Like that. Very much. Thank you you so much. Was there anything else? No. Okay, good. That means it's time for the meetups. So it looks like there's no. Well, of course it is. It is vacation time. So there's no meetups until this coming Saturday. That is June 13th. That's when the Treasure Valley Boise meetup.

[Adam Curry]

Juneteenth.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, that's the first. 14th. Juneteenth. I know it's the 18th. No, Juneteenth is the 18th.

[Adam Curry]

The 19th.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know what it is. Treasure Valley Boise meetup on the 13th, 3 o' clock at Green Acres Food Truck park in Boise, Idaho. That should be fun. Also on the 13th, the Franklin Franklin Slices and Sips meet up. That'll be at Salvos Pizza in Franklin, Tennessee. Looking forward to meetup reports. People will definitely get one from the the meetup on the 14th in Indianapolis, Indiana. The 18th, Charlotte, North Carolina. The 26th, Rotterdam, the Netherlands. The 27th. Fort Wayne, Indiana. The 27th. Oh, Albany, California. Oh, you're going to go to the Albany, California. 27th.

[Adam Curry]

I know nothing about it. This is totally new to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

It even says new New new new new.

[Adam Curry]

When is this date?

[John C. Dvorak]

The 27th.

[Adam Curry]

New 27th of June. Yes, it's probably a sign I shall be there. I don't see any reason why not.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the 28th, Longview, Texas and many more ahead in the month of July, August, September, October. Do we have. Do we have November? Not yet. Go to no. Agendameetups.com this is where you can find all of the meetups that take place around Gitmo Nation, which is worldwide. Actually, I had hoped to get the the Ukraine meetup report. I haven't seen it yet, so hopefully that comes in so I can play it on Thursday.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I hope at least one person showed up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, organizer. The guy organizes. Gotta be there. Besides, I sure hope so too.

[Adam Curry]

It'd be cool.

[John C. Dvorak]

Very cool. Kidding me? It's fantastic. Noagendameetups.com this is where you can find people who listen to the show. These are people who bring you connection which is always protection. They are your first responders in any emergency. Go to noagendameetups.com find a meetup near you. Go, go, go. You will never regret it. If you can't find one near you, you. Here's an idea. Start one Yourself. It's free, it's easy, and guaranteed. Always a party. Noagendameetups.com sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you won't be triggered on Hell Lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same.

[Adam Curry]

It's like.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Remember, we have John's revised tip of the day coming up. I'm very excited what this revision is. I mean, I've never really had any influence on him at all and certainly not on the tip of the day. So this should be fun. But before we get to that and our end of show mixes, we have to select the end of show ISO, which will be played at the very end of the show. I've got three, and seems like you've got some celebrity isos, so I will go first. Are you ready?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here comes Bend over, man. Maybe these conspiracy people are right about everything. A little on the long side, but I kind of liked it. Yeah, he's number two.

[Adam Curry]

That about sums it up.

[John C. Dvorak]

No got cut off. Now it's no good. It's no good. It's no good. Here's one. We've done it for a long time. I kind of like my first man. Maybe these conspiracy people are right about everything. All right.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I kind of like that one, too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, let's see what you have.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I got some celebrities. I got. You know, I've been going to these different sites. There are just a million of them now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Every. I think a lot of them are basing on the same model. Models. I. It's hard to say. Some of these models are no good. This is, for example, Morgan Freeman. The no Agenda podcast is great.

[John C. Dvorak]

So donate. Doesn't sound like him at all. I know a guy who can do Morgan Friedman.

[Adam Curry]

We'll have him do some jingles.

[John C. Dvorak]

I will. I will.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, I agree.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not that one that I'm dumping that one out of the player. That's no good.

[Adam Curry]

Here's Trump, folks. Make podcasting great again with the no Agenda podcast and donate today.

[John C. Dvorak]

Also close, but not. It's not really him. You know, I didn't really. Let me hear it again, folks.

[Adam Curry]

Make podcasting great again with the no Agenda podcast and donate today.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like Trump and. And Jason Calacanis had a kid and then made an ISO. Now I have to reject it. I'm sorry. It's just not good enough when they're good.

[Adam Curry]

I'm not going to argue the point, because the thing that bothers me about the about their model for Trump is he can't end a sentence right. Donate today.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, no, it's no good.

[Adam Curry]

Also, believe me, I worked it. I spent a good 10 minutes changing the copy and I still couldn't get the ending to come out correctly.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was also almost as long as the podcast itself. So that was.

[Adam Curry]

It wasn't that bad. Yours is long. Okay, what's it. The timing on yours, the one that you're going to pick and this one, I think yours is longer.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, mine is three seconds. Yours is five seconds. I will play them at the same time, same time to prove my point. 3, 2, 1,

[Adam Curry]

no agenda. Podcast and donate today. Huh?

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. You come up with new trickery to humiliate me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Time for tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. I think people. People have to. The AI thing needs to be tempered so when the whole thing collapses, you're not going to be taken. Oh, my God, what a shocker. So you want. There's a substack out there. That is the. The guy. He is the guy who is the expert on an AI expert, who is also a naysayer. His name is Garrett.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sorry, Ed Zit.

[Adam Curry]

No, Gary Marcus. Gary Marcus back east. Gary Marcus. Everybody knows him. Gary marcus.substack.com and just read his material and you will have a very what is grounded sense of where this is going, why it's no good, why it's going to fail, how it's going to fail, and all the rest of it. He's. He is the best at this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you think that if AI was really good, it could. Could avoid the bubble popping itself?

[Adam Curry]

That's a good one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gary Marcus, what is his latest insight that you have read? Can you paraphrase?

[Adam Curry]

Last one that I remember was he commented on the market crash a Friday, which was really AI. AI crash. And he discusses why and how. And it's actually very. He writes little long, but not in a boring, long way. Just long.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Is he a boomer?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. I never. I don't even know how old he is. He's really good, though.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I will investigate and I will report back on this tip of the day, which of course you can find at no agenda fund.com or tipoftheday.net.

[Adam Curry]

JJCD and sometimes Adam created by Dana Burnetti.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now let me take a look real quick. Let me see if the robot found out what this is called. Oh, no, no, no. I'll have to find it some other way robot failed AI is no good. Although when you listen to this mix of end of show mixes which includes Ian Cummings who is new, he's got the toe tapper in the middle. We have just Baker and MVP all sandwiched together for an end of show mix. Yes, it's not bad. It's a little bit in your face here and there but it's not bad. At least the lyrics are about the show and telling you to donate. So please consider consider doing [e-mail] and we will return on Thursday to deconstruct the media, try and help make sense of the world together and with you. And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill country in Fredericksburg, Texas in the morning everybody,

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where we're all saying the same thing. Ditch your smartphones. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll be back on Thursday again. Remember [e-mail]. stay tuned on the stream for what do we have? Oh, podcasting 2.0. You'll love it. Adios mofos who we hooey and. She hollered back in 09 now they spinning once more Hospitality local go props Private sector barely cop energy shock from hormones block Gas prices popping like a bad stock Real wages getting choked by inflation's invisible hand job media hell's reserve but the working man feel the sandbag Follow the money deficits balloon while they sing the tune Trump built 70 billion immigration army funding by the June moon. Unemployment 74.3 but long term cats stuck in the queue Healthcare hiring government booming Private sector looking blue oil at 96

[Various Guests/Reporters]

shipping cars rising like the tide in

[John C. Dvorak]

hormones real talk supply chain grind that mayo flow Feeling every bruise we're silly in economy headlines while the revisionists rewrite

[Various Guests/Reporters]

3 months games but cracks in the

[John C. Dvorak]

frame under the spotlight bright in LA battling zombies and drain reservoirs to try same script of an act to construct or die low agenda.

[Adam Curry]

It's.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's a signal in the static Late night on the dial Two cats breaking headlines with a crooked smile Adam's got

[Adam Curry]

the faders John's got clips to read

[John C. Dvorak]

they deconstruct the story cut it right to the bleed the anchor sell you panic dressed in suit and tie but these two play the take back Ask the question why they shuffle all the spindle I stack them side by side Then swing them off the bandstand Let the truth collide no kings of content no ad man throne Just a couple of cool cats with a mic and a tone so swing swing with no agenda tonight where the media fog meets the big bad light they got a horn section blasting through the lies you're fed and a value for value beating inside your head Producers in the balcony tapping in time time talent treasure in a three part rhyme from the troll room chatter to the night's fanfare it's the best show in the universe floating on air no ads, no boss Just the truth we share. Sunday. Woke up late through the rock away no master plan for the rest of

[Various Guests/Reporters]

the day Let the head down let

[John C. Dvorak]

the inhibition slide Tuning in the morning shows always makes me cry it's no agenda day it's Sunday a schedule to keep

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Tuning in the rock and roll

[John C. Dvorak]

pre show like obedience.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

No rules to follow just doing it slap buzz killing crackpot doing the anal

[Adam Curry]

cyst Keeping the producers out of the of paralysis it's the no.

[Various Guests/Reporters]

Yeah no agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Vorac Org Na man maybe these conspiracy people are right about everything.