1876 - "Screwball"

Summary

No Agenda Show — Episode 1876: “Screwball”

June 11, 2026 | Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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Episode Overview

In episode 1876, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak unpack another week of media, politics, culture, and economic developments in their signature irreverent, sharp, and conspiratorial style. Broadcasting from Texas and Refinery Row, they deconstruct the 2026 news: the abrupt “canceling” of a major war, the wild swings in oil and financial markets, ongoing skepticism about election integrity, a deep dive into surging AI IPOs, tangents on public health, media, and the creeping influence of “screwball” thinking in every aspect of public life. Sports, the rise of “gestating parents,” the “mental health industrial complex,” and the entanglement of U.S. and Israeli defense all get the No Agenda treatment.
The episode is a whirlwind of current events, media critique, and cultural commentary—frequently punctuated by memorable lines, side bets, and the show’s uniquely skeptical tone.

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Key Segments & Highlights

1. Sportsball & Cultural Touchstones

[00:00–03:15]

• Lighthearted sports banter: Dutch, U.S., and World Cup games, with Adam and John going back and forth on soccer (football) history and the chances of countries like the Netherlands and the U.S.
  • “You can’t be such a hater, people.” – Adam [01:05]
  • “The Netherlands has not won. So they’re not going to win. The Netherlands USA can’t win anything. They stink.” – John [01:56]
• Recap of the Knicks’ historic NBA comeback:
  • “The Knicks came back from 29 points down...setting the record for the biggest comeback in NBA finals history.” – John [02:35]

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2. Breaking News: The President Cancels the War

[03:20–08:00]

• Major discussion about President Trump’s supposed “canceling of the war,” leading to surges in the stock market, plummeting oil prices, and speculation on the reality of the deal—interlinked with Elon Musk’s upcoming IPO.
  • “Oil is dropping like a rock. The Dow is up 800 points and we’re just moments away, just moments away from signing the deal.” – Adam [03:34]
  • Speculation: “It might be for Elon's IPO...Doesn’t need any disturbances.” – Adam [03:58]
• Discussion delves into rumored covert military actions (with ships and oil), and Trump’s comments about oil, market manipulations, and secret operations.
  • “We took out…the other night, 22 ships late at night with no lights...That’s why oil is $85 a barrel.” – Adam, paraphrasing Trump [05:08]
  • “Do you think this is true, that they were slipping out ships and hundred million barrels of oil?” – Adam [06:22]
  • “Somebody knew something. It’s like in Trading Places…” – John [07:03]

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3. Election Integrity & Mail-in Ballots Dissected

[13:00–28:00]

• First, the aftermath of the LA Mayor race: was election rigging at work? Adam wins a “screwball” bet with John about the outcome.
  • “I don’t win often from you, Mortimer.” – Adam [13:12]
• Deep conversation on election legitimacy, featuring clips from Bret Weinstein and Gutfeld dissecting the problem of “perfect crimes”: frauds that can’t be proven in court, and election structures designed to enable undetectable fraud.
  • “No piece of evidence is sufficient to establish that case…Can you logically deduce that something has gone wrong? I believe you can. Can you prove it? No.” – Bret Weinstein [15:16]
• Media’s handling of election “denialism”—clip from Chris Hayes mocking Republican skepticism over slow vote counts and mail-in voting.
  • “They’re counting the votes, by the way, as our own Jacob Soboroff has shown in a room with glass panels. You can watch them do it.” – Chris Hayes, paraphrased [20:44]
• NPR mail-in ballot segment: mocked for using the Alaska “dog sled” example as justification for nationwide mail-in ballots.
  • “Dog sled. You need a dog sled. How are we supposed to get the vote in? We got a dog sled.” – John [25:03]
• Satirical critique of “lowest common denominator” logic:
  • “This is the classic liberal, lowest common denominator thinking…You find an outlier like Alaska.” – John [23:13]

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4. AI Bubble, IPOs, and the Techno-Economic Tangle

[34:00–48:11]

• Speculation on Musk’s SpaceX IPO, Warren’s warnings, and index funds being “forced” into risky AI investments:
  • “This SpaceX IPO creates a new concern that major stock market indexes are being rigged…to invest in SpaceX and face exposure…with no choice in the matter.” – Eamon Javers reporting on Elizabeth Warren [37:23]
• Palantir and the government’s mooted stake in OpenAI:
  • “The AI promise is it can recreate everything…you don’t need anything…all these other companies will not be necessary.” – Adam [41:21]
  • “He looked like a mad scientist…He’s a mad scientist.” – John on Palantir CEO [41:12]
• Frustration at the hype cycle: AI models (“Mythos,” “Fable 5”) hyped as too dangerous, then released to the public weeks later.
  • “First they come out…they say, ‘We can’t release the version because it will destroy all mankind.’ …Then they end up releasing it like a month later.” – John quoting Gary Marcus’s critique [47:31]

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5. Immigration, European Social Strains, and Violence in Northern Ireland

[48:22–53:10]

• Explosive coverage of knife attacks and arson in Belfast and Southampton, and how viral videos have stoked public fear about immigration.
  • “You can’t understate how important it is that these dreadful videos have been seen by so many…concern about immigration…more important issue for British voters than even the economy.” – Rob Watson [51:10]
• Cynical predictions: “This is going to happen all over Europe eventually…It’s not less by any means.” – John [53:31]
• Mocking government responses and globalist policies. “These European and UK representatives. They’re stupid.” – Adam [53:47]

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6. U.S., Israel, & Pentagon Procurement: A New Relationship

[108:45–115:04]

• Discussion of Section 224 of the National Defense Authorization Act—a move to integrate U.S. and Israeli defense tech, R&D, and potentially even data.
  • “A provision...lays the groundwork for bilateral research and development, co-production…network integration and data fusion.” – Indian news clip [109:17]
  • “The support may not disappear. It may move into a less visible system that is harder for the public to track.” – Adam citing analysis [114:48]
• Concern is that Israeli tech will become institutionalized in U.S. defense procurement, making future “aid” invisible, unaccountable, and difficult to debate.
  • “The Pentagon needs to pass an audit. That’s a black hole.” – Adam [115:04]

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7. Cultural Satire: “Gestating Parents” & Generational Screwballedness

[115:41–117:00]

• Reports from New York: redefining “mother” as “gestating parent” and “father” as “non-gestating parent.”
  • “She has to be the first gestating governor.” – Adam [116:38]
• Satirical lament about legislature and city council “nuts” in CA/NY.

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8. Societal Trends and Media Criticism

[80:03–104:12]

• iPhones as the Antichrist:
  • “Birth rates…started falling in 2007. That is the same year that Apple introduced the iPhone. Is there a connection?” – Adam [81:39]
  • “Less in person interaction, more pornography, and less sexual frequency.” – Adam [82:04]
• “Whatever Girls” clip: Geographic illiteracy and generational criticism.
  • “Name three countries besides the USA…Just Africa, Asia?” – Whatever Girl [83:14]
• Mental health industrial complex: listeners’ experiences with over-diagnosing and over-medicating.
  • “Everyone must be diagnosed and medicated for the greater good…diagnosis becomes their identity.” – Listener email [97:11]

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9. COVID & Medical Manipulation Redux

[100:31–106:28]

• Bret Weinstein/Weinstein on natural immunity, COVID “gaslighting,” and official suppression of dissenting opinions.
  • “They understood that natural immunity was the best immunity…And they decided to keep that to themselves.” – Bret Weinstein [101:51]
• Michael Yeadon (ex-Pfizer): The pandemic was fabricated, not backed by mortality data.
  • “There has not been a pandemic…A fraudulent PCR test was used to give people the impression that they had a particular disease.” – Michael Yeadon [104:12]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Election Forensics:
  • “It is the perfect crime.” – Adam [17:35]
• On AI Hype:
  • “They say, ‘We can’t release the version because it will destroy all mankind.’ …Then they end up releasing it a month later.” – John [47:31]
• On Screwworms in Texas:
  • “We’re releasing 100 million sterile flies a week. Been doing that for 18 months.” – John, quoting Texas Ag Commissioner [31:47]
• On Democrats’ New Messaging:
  • “This is an irresponsible position for the Senate Democrats to take…the most important tools we have to keep people in this country safe.” – Senator Thune [86:06]
• On Generational Drift:
  • “The problem is not the kids who weren’t born, it’s the ones who were born.” – Adam [84:11]
• On Media Melodrama:
  • “You become a journalist because you love the country. No, no, I gotta disagree with that.” – Adam [62:43]
• First World Problems Segment:
  • “It was an extra 50 cents to add ice. That should be illegal…I made a better one this morning at my house with my Nespresso.” – Coffee shop rant [126:14]

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Comedy, Meta-Media & Running Gags

• Multiple riffs on the overuse of “screwball”
  • “Am I…overusing the word screwball?” – John [65:09]
• Bet settlements and playful ribbing over bets on sports and politics.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• World Cup & Sports Banter: [00:00–03:20]
• War Cancellation & Market Reaction: [03:20–08:00]
• Election Rigging & Mail-in Ballots: [13:00–28:00]
• AI Mania & Economic Bubble: [34:00–48:11]
• European Violence & Immigration: [48:22–53:10]
• US–Israel Defense Integration: [108:45–115:04]
• iPhone and Birth Rates: [80:03–83:09]
• Mental Health Industrial Complex: [97:11–99:46]
• COVID “Gaslighting”: [100:31–104:12]
• First World Problems Rant: [126:04–127:12]

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Style & Tone

The conversation remains rapid-fire, sarcastic, and laden with inside jokes, running gags, skepticism towards media narratives, and a relentless focus on exposing “the scam.” Regular jabs at politicians, the media, big tech, and the entire “screwball” state of modern society characterize the show’s appeal for fans and the marginally skeptical alike.

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TL;DR — Why Listen?

• Election integrity and the manipulations of “fraud that can’t be proven”
• Wild swings in global conflict, energy, and the stock market
• Technocratic overreach via AI and Pentagon procurement
• Cultural absurdities: gestating parents, COVID narratives, and phone zombies
• Juicy deconstruction of how media shapes (and distorts) everything, with soundbites, humor, and edge

“It’s a bad thing when people have my number. Email is one thing, but people have my phone number and they’ll text me, ‘Hey, we’re going to be in Fredericksburg this Saturday. Got time for a glass of wine?’” — Adam [12:20]

“There’s no democracy without journalism. Really, Scott? Is that really it?” — Adam [62:43]

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Transcript

[John C. Dvorak]

Dog sled. You need a dog sled. How are we supposed to get the vote in? We got a dog sled.

[Adam Curry]

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, it's Thursday, June 11, 2026. This is your award winning Gitmo nation media assassination episode 1876. This is no agenda canceling the war. And we are broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[John C. Dvorak]

And back on Refinery Row where everybody's talking the same wor World cup watch party. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

I gotta, I gotta be honest. I. I am recording all Dutch team and American team games on the YouTube TV. Yeah, of course, of course.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why are you. Are you really looking forward to that Switzerland Botswana match?

[Adam Curry]

No, I said, I said Netherlands and American games. I didn't say Switzerland.

[John C. Dvorak]

And those will be more exciting.

[Adam Curry]

It's my teams, man. You can't be such a hater, people.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not a hater.

[Adam Curry]

You are very much a hater. Oh, boo.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, there's only. What?

[Adam Curry]

Nothing. I said nothing.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's only nine teams that have ever won the World Cup.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they are out of what, 130 countries? Is that fair?

[Adam Curry]

What are the nine teams? Germany.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, let's start with Brazil. Who's won the most? They won five.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, they're good players.

[John C. Dvorak]

Then you have Germany, Italy, Argentina. France.

[Adam Curry]

Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

Uruguay.

[Adam Curry]

Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

They won two actually.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they're good. They're good players.

[John C. Dvorak]

England, they won one. And last on the list is Spain. That's it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So how did. So the Netherlands has not won. So they're not going to win. The Netherlands USA can't win anything. They stink.

[Adam Curry]

The Netherlands.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's the point?

[Adam Curry]

The Netherlands has come in twice, several times, I think two or three times. They've come in twice. I typically they choke against the Germans. They look at those Germans and go, oh, my bike. They choke. They choke. Well, we had a miraculous comeback of the Knicks. Look at me with sportsball against the spurs, which is my team, of course, the San Antonio Spurs. I mean, it's an exciting sports year, John. It's fantastic

[John C. Dvorak]

for people out there who don't know what happened is that the Knicks came back from 29 points down.

[Adam Curry]

That was amazing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Setting the record for the biggest comeback in NBA finals history.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And beat these guys. And the worst part was that the. Your San Antonio team scored 76 points in the first half and they were leading by, I don't know, 20 something going into the second half. And in the entire second half.

[Adam Curry]

Joke.

[John C. Dvorak]

They scored 30 points total.

[Adam Curry]

It's crazy. Is that, is that not a lot? I'm not sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's one quarter's worth of points generally in an average game.

[Adam Curry]

So we can move off sports news as to what's happening right now on the quad screen. Of course, it happens on a show day. The President has just canceled the war. Oil is dropping like a rock. The dow is up 800 points and we're just moments away, just moments away from signing the deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Uh huh.

[Adam Curry]

And I think it might this time, it might be real. Ooh, it has to be, because Elon's going public tomorrow, so he doesn't need any disturbances. So picks up the phone, he's like, listen, listen, Donald, you want to take care of this for me for today? Just for today only, you know, if you need to rekindle it, do it on Saturday. It's been an interesting week in regards to. Not so much the helicopter stuff and all that, but the President made quite a revelation, which I cannot get confirmed for some reason. The oil baron didn't answer this. You know, it was like, we have a text group. And I'm, I said, hey, can you confirm this? And you know, he just came back with something else and didn't, didn't say anything. I thought it was somewhat suspicious. And this is what I'm talking about. First of all, I love the inflation. Please, sir, Mr. President, about the latest inflation number which came out this morning, could that be it? No, I love it. The numbers were great. You know what I really love? I love the inflation. You know why?

[John C. Dvorak]

Because as soon as this war is over, you know, I can say it now, something you didn't know. Do you know we've been taking out millions of barrels of oil. Nobody knows it. You know who doesn't know about it? Iran. Until right now. We took out the other night, 22

[Adam Curry]

ships late at night with no lights. No lights because we didn't have any radar, because we blasted the crap out of it. We took out. That's why oil is $85 a barrel. I mean, you take a look. Remember when I did this? I said, look, the one bad thing will be we hit the best economy we've ever hit.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I said to my people, I

[Adam Curry]

had Scott, I had Howard, I had

[John C. Dvorak]

Pete, I had all Bob, Paul Todd in the room.

[Adam Curry]

Anthony, I said, the one thing we have to do now, we had just hit the highest stock market in history,

[John C. Dvorak]

highest 401ks in history.

[Adam Curry]

Everything was going well. And I said, I hate to do this to you guys. Iran's going to have a nuclear weapon very soon.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have to go and attack.

[Adam Curry]

So we hit them with the B2 bombers. Yeah. Which took a lot of courage. It was totally successful. We buried it very hard to get. But now we had to make the second move.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I said, you know, the bad

[Adam Curry]

part is the stock market will go down by a lot based on predictions of experts like 25%. And it was worth it to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was worth it not to have a nuclear weapon. And the other thing is that oil

[Adam Curry]

would go to $250 a barrel.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's at 85.

[Adam Curry]

Wasn't at 85 when he said that, but. Okay. Do you think this is true, that they were slipping out ships and hundred million barrels of oil?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's hard to say because he did that trick that one time where they said he gave him. Gave us a gift of eight ships. Remember that? Eight ships.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And there was no evidence of that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, there's no evidence of this. But what is weird is that the oil baron wouldn't respond to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe know something, something. Whatever happened, happened at about 1:15 East coast time, AM because the market just took us, just rocketed up.

[Adam Curry]

It took a huge turn.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know. Out of the blue, one just spiked.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So somebody knew something. It's like, you know that Trading Places movie where they're, you know, there's insiders doing dirty business.

[Adam Curry]

It's a classic. It's a classic.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I don't know. I don't know what. You know, this could be. You might. I think the thesis about Elon's IPO might actually be the most valid thing about it.

[Adam Curry]

What was interesting is the money, honey. She of course had, had the. She's not always on the show anymore. Something's going on with her too.

[John C. Dvorak]

So.

[Adam Curry]

Maria Bartiromo on Fox Business, the least watched news channel in all history, except maybe for her show. She had on the CEO of Axis Capital and she played that whole clip and then even let it run on longer for about three minutes. And it turns out that they actually seem to have the insurance part worked out as well.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Axis Capital is at the forefront of the effort, providing clients operating in the region with protection for assets exposed to heightened threats. Joining me now in a Fox Business exclusive is Axis CEO Vince Tizio.

[Adam Curry]

Vince, thanks so much for being here this morning.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Can you talk to us a little

[Adam Curry]

about that business in terms of providing

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

that insurance to those boats, those ships trying to transact through the strait?

[Adam Curry]

Maria, good Morning. Certainly it remains a dynamic risk landscape and environment. Indeed, the announcement last night by the President reinforces the value of the industry providing protection to. To the maritime space. There's over 20,000 seafarers in the region, and certainly they want the assurance that as they transport goods and services, in the instance last night referenced by the President, oil. That there's protection. And so it remains dynamic. We remain a vibrant market in geography, protecting our insureds both in the Persian Gulf and around the region generally. So, just so just to be clear,

[John C. Dvorak]

you're ensuring those vessels that are.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Are handled and secured with others ships so that they can be transported through?

[Adam Curry]

For sure, we have representation on any number of insureds. We never reveal, of course, the exact insureds or countries of origin for protection for them. But certainly we are a vibrant, substantial provider of marine coverage, Marine war more particularly.

[John C. Dvorak]

What did you say the last protection for them is? Protection from. Not for them, it's for you.

[Adam Curry]

What do you mean? I don't, I don't. I don't understand what you're saying.

[John C. Dvorak]

He says they don't. They're trying to protect. They don't, like, say what ships are to protect them? No, they're the ones that did the insurance.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, well, of course. Yeah. Hello. Yeah, you don't want someone taking out something that's fully insured. No, you never do that. I remember back when I had helicopter money, the bank called me like, yeah, we think you should probably have kidnapping insurance. I'm like, what? Yes, and it works really cool. You get codes and then, you know. So only with a code can this be. Can this be uncovered and you can only give it to your wife. I'm like, I don't think I'm. I don't think I want your kidnapping insurance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kidnapping. That's good.

[Adam Curry]

Kidnapping insurance makes sense. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

You were doing a lot of business in Mexico, I guess.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there have been a lot of kidnappings in Holland with wealthy people. Freddie Heineken was a legendary case. They kidnapped the dude who had the beer. So it's not all that crazy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they don't do it in countries where they really throw the book at the kidnappers.

[Adam Curry]

No. No.

[John C. Dvorak]

So obviously they're not throwing the book at the kidnappers.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's Holland. You can murder somebody and you're out after years. It's real easy. They're laid back there, man. It's cool. So you have anything on this or. Because all the other clips I had make no sense now because, you know, the war is over.

[John C. Dvorak]

I Just had this striking stuff, I guess. Trump strikes Iran.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but it makes no sense. It's over now. It's done.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, not necessarily. If it. If it doesn't follow up.

[Adam Curry]

No. Well, we'll see on Sunday. But I don't think that it makes any sense to play anything.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like, all right, okay, well, that's fine with me.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, let's just laugh.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's just talk about the World Cup.

[Adam Curry]

You know, the World cup is. We have. I've also gotten all these calls from Dutch radio and television stations. Hey, hi, Hoi. Yeah, we're going to be in Dallas for the World Cup. Hey, hi hoi topi. Yes, that's how they talk. Hey, hi, hoi, Topi. We're going to be in Dallas for the World Cup. We'd love for you to join us. Like, it's a five hour drive. I'm not coming to Dallas. Send the jet.

[John C. Dvorak]

They don't get. Yeah, right.

[Adam Curry]

Send the jet, man.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're. You know, it's a small country. They think everything is like that. Yeah, they project.

[Adam Curry]

But, you know, even if it was Austin, it's still five hours. Like, come on, guys, don't be so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you're out. You're just telling to come to Fredericksburg

[Adam Curry]

once you know that it's the last thing I want. I don't want. I don't want anybody here. You know, that's. That's a bad thing. When people have my number. Email is one thing, but people have my phone number and they'll text me, hey, we're going to be in Fredericksburg this Saturday. Got time for a glass of wine or a cup of coffee? It's like there's a million people a year who come through Fredericksburg. It's like living in Disneyland, in Anaheim. It's like. No, I mean, I work on Saturdays. I got no time for this.

[John C. Dvorak]

You tell them.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I do.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it looks like I owe you two bucks.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, you do. You do. You double down. You went double or nothing.

[John C. Dvorak]

We got a couple of clips on. This is male and just want to just explain the.

[Adam Curry]

The bets.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Because I need to savor this. I don't win often for you, Mortimer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, what happened was I have Adam somehow wrangled some sort of a screwball bet that wrangle.

[Adam Curry]

What do you mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

Spencer Pratt, you're the one going to become the.

[Adam Curry]

You're the one that said that's not true. They're gonna. I said he will. They will rig it. He will not be. He will not Be mayor. He's not going to be the mayor. There's no way. And then you went by, you know, what you're talking about. This is. This is how they think. They think differently. They have to let him in. So they don't think it's. No.

[John C. Dvorak]

That, that. Now that you got that right, I was under the impression that they weren't going to be so stupid as to rig the election, but they started thinking about it and, well, maybe they think. Here's what my latest thinking is.

[Adam Curry]

Okay?

[John C. Dvorak]

Because initially I said they're not going to be so stupid like they do, you know, with. At least with Hilton, they let him in. But they're not going to be so stupid to do the same thing to Pratt because he's got a lot of traction and does these ads. He's fun, but because he set a new standard for how to do, how to market yourself in a campaign, they look at it and go, you know, this is probably not a good thing. Let's don't encourage it. Let's show that it doesn't work. Bump him.

[Adam Curry]

Now, do you think. Is there any. In any realm, is there any possibility that maybe people really like the AI Videos, but just not a lot of people or not enough people voted for him?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's possible. I mean, anything's possible. In fact, that's explained a little bit in this clip. You should play this. This is our buddy Brett Weinstein.

[Adam Curry]

Oh.

[John C. Dvorak]

On election fraud.

[Adam Curry]

All right, hold on a second. Where is he? Brett Weinstein. We're going to have an endless battle in which those of us who see what we believe. Now, what is this? On his own show or is he a guest?

[John C. Dvorak]

I have no idea where this came from. It looks like his own show.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Is clear evidence of some kind of election rigging or fraud. Are faced with indignation from a vast array of people portraying themselves as more rigorous and careful, who say, where is your evidence? Where exactly, exactly is your evidence that there was something wrong with this election? And we are going to be caught in the following predicament. No piece of evidence is sufficient to establish that case. Wow. This is deep analysis. And the sum total of all of the evidence contains true things and false things. Yes. So it is also no good. So the question is, can you logically deduce that something has gone wrong? I believe you can. Easily. Can you prove it? No. And not being able to prove it means that the election will proceed. It will be validated by all of the structures, including the courts. And that means that those who take on the power that derives from these elections will be the result of whatever process we just went through. Whether it was an election that happened to be anomalous through organic means or it was the result of some kind of fraud or election rig, that is not an accident. And point that I want to make primarily is primary evidence against elections that look like this. Being organic is not actually in the trickle of evidence that we are actually able to see, you know, the, you know, moment by moment vote count that does something strange during the night when some large tranche of ballots is suddenly counted or something like that. We literally saw that the evidence is in the structure of how the elections are actually carried out. These elections are designed to allow fraud that cannot be detected and will not be prosecuted. And that's really the thing that we must focus on. Yeah. Okay. Well, I can't wait to tune in

[John C. Dvorak]

to hear kind of what the pillow guy once said. Mike, he says you can just look and tell that this. Statistically it's not possible. What happened, happened.

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

But you can't prove anything. Yeah, it's perfect. It's the perfect crime.

[Adam Curry]

It is the perfect crime. Before you play your NPR clips, I'm surprised you didn't get this. I got Gutfeld's reaction from his. From his.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't. I don't clip Gutfeld.

[Adam Curry]

You have. But I thought this was, you know, a typical response. So the LA Mayor race is now down to two, with Nithya Rahman advancing over Spencer Pratt to face Bass in November thanks to a delayed vote count that surged like the estrogen in Tim Waltz's veins. Okay, good line. So with Pratt out, Louisiana voters have a big decision. Do they want to live in a

[John C. Dvorak]

hole or a hell hole?

[Adam Curry]

But as rotten as the outcome is, don't you dare call it fraud.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's legal.

[Adam Curry]

Since the system is built for those who control it. See, he's saying the same thing as Bret, only it's a little funnier. A mail in voting apparatus with a time frame of a month to tally votes. Pretty convenient in case you need a second place finisher that's a Democrat. So two Dems face off in the final. It's like when Jesse tips a waitress using change. They'll keep counting as long as it takes. So don't you feel like an idiot for thinking Pratt had a chance when he never did? No one does except those in control. The system tells you so. Fact is, Pratt would not have enough Republican votes to win, so he'd need a lot of crossover votes. Maybe enough people were on the fence. Especially if that fence kept pantless junkies away from their kids. But if you eliminate Pratt, you eliminate Pratt. Debating Bass. It's not corrupt. It's just the way the system is run by the people who created the system. The truth is, Spencer had about as much of a chance of beating Bass as does anyone who runs against Putin or Kim Jong Un. Okay, maybe to play the other side, Chris Hayes, who is still on this now, they keep that guy around forever. Chris Hayes. Wasn't he the disciple of what's her face?

[John C. Dvorak]

Rachel.

[Adam Curry]

Rachel, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he's in her image.

[Adam Curry]

Exactly. You might have noticed the big lie is back. Although the big lie, truthfully, it never went away. Big lie without evidence, Capital insurrection. MAGA is back pushing another equal parts deranged, idiotic election conspiracy theory, this time centered on California.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

That's how they.

[Adam Curry]

You know why they're doing that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Because they're cheating on the election.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

There's. What? Do you have evidence?

[Adam Curry]

All I have to do is look. They are still counting the votes. You trust this election? That seems pretty shady to me. I think California is playing around with this. But what evidence is there to prove that there was a race? I don't. Some of these efforts are so diabolical and so far upstream, it is impossible to prove. But I think everybody knows instinctively something is wrong here. Something's wrong. No, no, no, no, no. Not everyone knows it instinctively because there's nothing wrong here with the California votes. They're counting the votes, by the way, as our own Jacob Sobras has shown in a room with glass panels. You can watch them do it. Oh, that does not fraud. So he's just talking about the counting of the votes, not the votes themselves. The case Republicans are making, we have

[John C. Dvorak]

one of our producers is one of those observers in those big rooms.

[Adam Curry]

And you have a boots on the ground from the set.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm getting one. I don't have the one that I want to report on because I want to put it together in a concise way. But he says it's pretty obvious that everything that is fraudulent takes place upstream.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's not in the glass box.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, the glass box is just for show.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, with glass panels, so you can watch them do it. It's not fraud. The case Republicans are making, it's impossible to prove. So trust their instincts is manifestly preposterous. Absurd. But again, some big lie in 2020. Manifestly, I tell you, 2021, preposterous. Essentially identical. And look what happened. Look what that led to on January 6th. Oh, and this case looks to me like it is setting the table to invalidate midterm results in November perform as badly as expected. Oh, there it is. There's the setup. The setup is there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, man. How much longer can we stand this? It's like Groundhog Day. All right, let's talk about your mail in ballots. What you got from npr.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, so I was, I noticed this is an NPR clip about mail in ballots and this two parter, it's about how it's so important. Excuse me, that's okay. Phlegm. So important to have mail in ballots that in these remote areas of Alaska so that you have to, you know, you wouldn't be able to get the vote in at all if it wasn't for that. And it dawned on me what NPR is doing, and I've noticed it elsewhere too, with some other reports on absentee ballots. And the rest is they take the most, the most obscure, probably the long shot, the most outrageous example to prove a point. Instead of using the mean or the average or anything in between, you find an outlier like Alaska where there's a village that's out in the middle of nowhere that can't really communicate with anybody except a couple days out of the year.

[Adam Curry]

Village. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you make that. That's what's the way that you have to. This is the classic liberal, lowest common denominator thinking. Yeah, but I love doing this. It's like, well, you know, we got to do it because this little Jimmy here is dumb. So everyone has to be taught the same way. It's always something like that. And that's what NPR is doing here. And I just found it. It's a really annoying. So let's play Clip one.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Richard Moses is an Alaska based campaign and election lawyer who's represented parties involved in ballot recounts and has seen the late arrivals firsthand.

[Adam Curry]

One of them was from out in western Alaska, was postmarked prior to election Day and still arrived seven or eight days after the deadlines.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

For those inside the US Alaska allows mail in ballots to be counted as long as they are postmarked by election Day and arrive no later than 10 days after a general election. But a Supreme Court decision could change that. The court is currently considering a Republican Party challenge to a Mississippi law that counts mail in ballots similarly to how Alaska does. In their court brief, Republican Party lawyers said that delayed counting violates federal law that nationally sets an election day. Alaska's attorney general filed a brief with the court that did not take a side, but did Explain the challenges Alaskans face when voting. Moses, who has represented both Democrats and Republicans, says if the law is struck down, it could affect Alaska significantly.

[Adam Curry]

We live in a state where diphtheria serum had to be delivered a thousand miles on a dog sled. Not that long ago, dog sled changed the electoral process in any way. It's going to be groundbreaking here. Groundbreaking. Oh, this is great. Yeah, you're absolutely right. That's a great way to frame it. Like, well, look, we have Alaska dog sled.

[John C. Dvorak]

You need a dog sled. How are we supposed to get the vote in? We got a dog sled.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is like bull crap. But anyway, let's go. Part two.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Michelle Spark runs the nonpartisan effort called get out the Native Vote. They operate under the Alaska Federation of Natives, which filed an ambitious.

[Adam Curry]

They're going deep with get out the Native Vote disproportionate.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

They said discounting late arriving ballots would disenfranchise many Native voters in Alaska and other places.

[Adam Curry]

So it's, it's racist too. Native voters, this is good.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Who are often in remote communities.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know how to pile on.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's fantastic.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Good to mess with these things, especially during an election year. Under the proposed change, voters could still vote by mail. They'll just have to send their ballots in earlier. But Spark says a lot can change in the weeks before an election when everybody has the luxury until 8pm on election day to make their decisions. It's not fair to put the burden on us as soon as possible. If a change went into effect before this November, Alaska political watchers say it could affect the consequential Senate race between Democrat Mary Peltola and Republican Dan Sullivan. Paltola faces headwinds in a state that went to Trump by 13 points in the last election. Still, analysts say many of Peltola supporters live in rural areas that could be impacted by this voting change in platinum. Counting late arriving ballots is about more than just election outcomes. It's about the principle of having a vote. Lou Adams Again, it's kind of disheartening.

[Adam Curry]

You want your vote to be counted. That's why you vote practically Canadian. You can maybe make a difference and they count your ballot.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

She says the community is hoping to get a polling place. Until then, voting will rely on boats, snow machines and bush planes.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. Yeah. That has very little bearing on the vote. The vote for the Los Angeles mayor.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know, but let's just play it. Dog sled.

[Adam Curry]

That's good. Did you see the Act Blue CEO testifying?

[John C. Dvorak]

I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate me.

[Adam Curry]

This was so good. We've been talking about axe blue for 10, 12, 15 years, at least. And not to forget that there's the Big Red version, which I think was started.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but it hardly compares to Act Blue.

[Adam Curry]

Act Blue is. Is pretty out there. You know, every single activist website you see who's asking for a donation, that's the first thing you do. Activist website. Let me see. Donation, yes. Act Blue. Okay, but I just thought her. The first question was all you really need to know to. To know how the rest of the. Of the hearing went. I do have a series of questions for you, but I want to make sure I'm respectful. Is it Ms. Jones or Ms. Wallace Jones?

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know my name.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can't even say her name.

[Adam Curry]

That was great. That was funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's so dumb.

[Adam Curry]

And whoever that was, he asked, and he knew. He knew what the answer was going to be. That was a. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Once they got a clue. Yeah. And then. Then Jim Jordan went on with, how much did Russia. How much did Russia influence the election?

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, they started asking these. These questions, you know, indicate one thing or another. In other words, the corruption of the Democrats.

[Adam Curry]

You could do whatever you want.

[John C. Dvorak]

She just made it look like the Russians vote Democrat. I mean, the way it go. Went.

[Adam Curry]

It was fantastic. So this was. Let me see. What was this? This was two days ago. Everybody's phone in Fredericksburg starts going off like, oh, oh, oh, alert. You know, one of those alerts like the orange. Orange alert. The scarlet alert.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

FBGC Emergency Management. That's Fredericksburg, Gillespie County. First screwworm case confirmed in Gillespie County.

[John C. Dvorak]

That came on your phone?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, yes. And if you want more information, text SCREWWORM to 38276. I'm like, what is this now? So I look at it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you. Did you text screw? No. No, I did not feel like an idiot doing that. Gee.

[Adam Curry]

I did not text screw worm. No. And turns out a screw worm was detected in a goat. This is. I mean, this fear that they're throwing out there is pretty insane, actually. We got a. We got a note from Brazil. Trained veterinary pathologist Juliana. And she says, you know, I got my education in Brazil. You know, the new world. Screw worm rages. I'm specialized. And she gave us everything that we knew. She said, warm blooded animals are at risk, including dogs and cats. But then she says, The Sterile Fly program was a huge success in the usa. It was taught in my vet school. I was sad to learn the USA is letting this plague come back. Adam, please don't take this lightly. Keep an eye on Phoebe. And I just wanted to say thank you, Juliana. Just because we talk about things that could be horrible lightheartedly doesn't mean that we don't take it seriously. People confuse that we're trying to, you know, deconstruct media and have a bit of a light hearted attitude about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, it's easy because most of it's bogus.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, well, hair on fire, your pets, your dogs. Yeah, we could do that. We probably have more clicks, more likes, more downloads. We could put ourselves on YouTube, on video, John, you could make a face like, oh. So let's hear from the Texas Ag Commissioner, Sid Miller, about what's not working and what has always worked, and that we should resort Back to.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

The U.S. cattle industry began sounding the alarm over screw worms when they were detected in Mexico in 2023. The USDA has been deploying sterile male flies to stop screws from returning. But you're proposing something instead. What is that? And why is what the USDA is doing not enough?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, what they're doing is the same

[Adam Curry]

thing over and over again, expecting different results.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's a definition of insanity.

[Adam Curry]

They're releasing 100 million sterile flies a week.

[John C. Dvorak]

Been doing that for 18 months.

[Adam Curry]

So we've released over 7 billion sterile flies, yet we have more cases today than when we started.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they marched from southern Mexico 1100 miles into Texas and New Mexico.

[Adam Curry]

It's not working, folks.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have a tool. The USDA has it.

[Adam Curry]

They come up with it, they've deployed it, They've used it in the past. Called the Swast Swass.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's Screw Worm Adult Suppression System. It's basically a fly bait.

[Adam Curry]

You put the fly bait out and passed.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's killed 95% of the screw worm flies. You follow up with sterile flies.

[Adam Curry]

The reason the sterile flies don't work is, is that they release 100 million

[John C. Dvorak]

flies, but half of them are females. The ideal is to get the male

[Adam Curry]

to the sterile male to mate with a fertile female. And there's no offspring. Well, they don't mate with the fertile females.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's a fertile sterilized female right beside them.

[Adam Curry]

So they just mate with each other. Maybe one in a hundred thousand actually

[John C. Dvorak]

goes out and finds a fertile female to mate with.

[Adam Curry]

So it's not working.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Why do you think the federal government doesn't Want to deploy the SWAS method?

[Adam Curry]

I've asked them.

[John C. Dvorak]

They don't have a good, good answer. It's, it's their program, it's not mine.

[Adam Curry]

The very first time I brought it up to Brooke Rawlin, she says it's environmentally insensitive. I said, what is? The plane.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't get it.

[Adam Curry]

She said, well, it might kill some good flies. That's why I don't know what a good fly is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's say good flies.

[Adam Curry]

You've got a billion dollar fly factory. Let's go make some more flies and turn them loose. Let's get that.

[John C. Dvorak]

The number one thing is, is to eradicate the screw worm flies.

[Adam Curry]

Damn Gummet. That's how we think in Texas, Dad.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gummy might take out some good flies.

[Adam Curry]

Don't take out the flies. It could be insensitive to them. I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

This thing, that sounds. Actually that rationale sounds correct.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. This whole thing sounds hoaxy. Why are we doing that? And, and how can you say the screw?

[John C. Dvorak]

How about Malathion? That works.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah. Walk the cows through it. Yeah. How does this screw worm march a thousand miles?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. Very slowly.

[Adam Curry]

It's the cattle. They're moving the cattle up through here. They're selling crap cattle. Crap cattle. So did you guys Talk about the SpaceX IPO on DH Unplugged? Haven't listened.

[John C. Dvorak]

We've talked about it before.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, the new news, it doesn't

[John C. Dvorak]

make a lot of sense to anyone who runs the numbers. But while not making a lot of sense because it's already like overvalued, it's 4x over subscribed last I looked.

[Adam Curry]

And this is the thing that's interesting. I've. I've taken a company public and typical musk fashion, I guess it's like, no, we're not going to discuss pricing. It's $130 a share. No matter how many people want it or don't want it or whatever. That's pretty atypical for an IPO where they price it and say that's going to be it. Not the pricing the night before especially.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's the way it used to be in the olden days.

[Adam Curry]

Well, in 96, I remember that we were ready to walk away from the whole IPO the night before because they didn't want to price it at $7. Of course, it went down to 350 the first day. It was a very, was an awesome ipo. Great quarter, guys. It took a long time to get it back up, but I don't know, this, this whole, I mean, it'll be interesting to see. Will, Will, all of the. Is this the big liquidity event, the exit for all of the venture capital, the, the billions of dollars that have been put into it, or will people hold.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they're going to hold it long enough until the indexers all have to buy it up and it should jack it up a few points and then we'll see what happens. I'd get out as soon as I could.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, this is what you want.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, as soon as I could after the indexers all bought in, because the way it's set up is that it's going to have to be bought up out the index funds because it's going to be an index stock and, and so they got to buy a ton of it and so that's going to prop it up and it should either go up enough that you can make a little money there right at the end, right at the beginning, and then who knows what's going to happen. I think it's going to collapse.

[Adam Curry]

Ooh, not the first day though.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. No, I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

It's got a spike. Well, Senator Warren, Elizabeth Warren did something which I think is very smart. She made a statement which she has nothing to lose. If it's a huge success, no one will remember what she said. But if and when it collapses, she'll, she'll be looking like a hero. Getting some news on SpaceX this morning. One prominent senator now calling for an IPO delay. Our Eamon jabbers has that for us. Eamon 12 page letter here, heavily footnoted. Yeah, good morning, Carl. This is a letter from Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren to the Commissioner of the securities and Exchange Commission asking the Commission to delay Friday's SpaceX IPO citing investor protection concerns. Elizabeth Warren in this letter citing a number of factors she says warrant a delay in the ipo, including the company's valuation. She says market analysts have raised concerns about the math underlying SpaceX's target valuation. She raises concerns about governance structure, saying publicly traded companies are meant to be accountable to their shareholders. The SpaceX IPO will flip this model on its head with shareholders providing billions of dollars in new capital with no accountability measures for Mr. Musk or company leadership. And she's expressing concerns here about passive investors, saying the SpaceX IPO creates a new concern that major stock market indexes are being rigged in a way that would force millions of investors in passive index funds, a generally lower cost investment option that can be attractive to retail investors to invest in SpaceX and face exposure to Space X is significant risk with no choice in the matter. So that from Elizabeth Warren. The political reality is that Donald Trump's SEC not likely to take Elizabeth Warren's advice here on this IPO on Friday. But I think it does signal some concerns out there in the investing community. And if Democrats are to be successful in the midterms, it could proceed to some static for the company after November. Guys, back to you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, since Elon's a genius, we'll see. I think here's, here's an out there prediction. I think before it long, Ellen is going to find a way to leverage this IPO and buy a company called Boom Supersonic.

[Adam Curry]

Is that the airplane company? Yeah, that has the small supersonic planes,

[John C. Dvorak]

but it's not that small. Holds 100 people.

[Adam Curry]

Why would he buy. Why? What's the point of that?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think he's going to become like Boeing. They want to be in the airline business.

[Adam Curry]

Really?

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a random thought in my head.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. Well, let's put it in the book. Do you still have a red book? No, you don't have the red book. Why are you not home, by the way? You're at Jay's place again.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, why? They're painting at my place.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no, that'll kill you. So the big concern has been too big to fail. How are we going to protect, you know, the poor 401k holders? How are we going to protect our GDP? And it seems like that fear is coming true with the idea of the United States government taking a stake in the AI companies.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Hi, Kelly. So we are hearing that the US Government is considering taking a stake in Open Air, possibly other giants as well. A source tells me CEO Sam Altman and the Trump administration have been talking about this idea for more than a year now. Altman first floated this from what I'm Hearing back in 2025 when Trump initially took office, a source says that OpenAI would actually donate a portion of its equity to a possible fund as part of this. Altman was on Capitol Hill just this week. He was meeting with lawmakers. From what we're hearing, including Senator Bernie Sanders, who has pitched a 50% government stake in some of these companies. He confirmed to CNBC that he and Altman talked about the concept of a sovereign wealth fund in terms of investing in AI. Much of this does mirror what OpenAI has said publicly already back in April. It did pitch a handful of solutions to try to spread the economic benefits of this technology and let Americans participate, participate in financial upside at a time when there is real anxiety around widespread job loss. The government, though, has a recent track record. When you look at recent direct equity stakes in other tech companies, you have intel, IBM, Global Foundries, other critical mineral companies, plus some quantum companies as well. Worth noting though, governments around the world are actually already invested in OpenAI and Anthropic through their own sovereign wealth funds. You have MGX out of Abu Dhabi and then the UAE fund. There are also some state funds that own blocks through venture capital firms. So there's sort of a precedent for this on a global scale.

[Adam Curry]

It's fun to watch the, the other tech CEOs kind of flipping out a little house. Is Palantir stock still rocketing or is it diving?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know that it's diving. I think it's doing okay. I haven't looked at it for a

[Adam Curry]

while because, you know that crazy guy, Alex Karp, the CEO, looks like a mad scientist.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a mad scientist.

[Adam Curry]

So it sounds like he's really afraid that, that these, you know, of course the promise of AI is it can recreate everything. You don't need your, you don't need your tax software. You don't need, you don't need anything. It's gonna, it's gonna make everything for everybody. And all these other companies will not be necessary. And he did an interview on cnbc and he sounded scared or nervous. Just weird.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Because I think the biggest question around Palantir right now on Wall street is whether the large language models the anthropics, which are about to go.

[Adam Curry]

The anthropics and the AIs. Come on. Oh, come on, man, don't do that. There's only three companies public can replicate what you're doing. You know what? It's. It's a real question that no one in enterprise factually is worried. Like, you know, investors are really intrigued. Short term, have no idea what they're talking about. Long term, end up being right. But we, we will just debate this with the facts. You know, I've spent, spent all my life, for better or worse, dealing with the most complicated, most interesting enterprises. I'm on the ground floor in that, probably like no one else.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

And they don't, you're saying.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, most of them are chillaxing over their latte, reading a report about something that they don't understand the technical capacity about. They're idiots, I tell you. They don't know what they're talking about,

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

but they're Hiring the kind of engineers that you have.

[John C. Dvorak]

That.

[Adam Curry]

And those kind of engineers are great engineers. And I'm telling you, they don't talk to the enterprises or don't understand the technical challenge. And also, by the way, the ability to be a great investor in the kind of where those, that's where large language models are more useful because it's, it's probabilistic and you don't have to get better than. Really 51%. If you want to manufacture a car and you need a part, or you want to send a rocket to the moon, or you want to put a missile on your adversary's head and break home Americans safely, you use, you use Palantir. That stuff doesn't ship. And by the way. And there's not a single. If you want to put a missile on your enemy's head, you call me an enterprise like that, that would ever put. By the way, that's before you get to the cultural impasse, like the. When you go to San Francisco and talk to them, their basic vibe is, we don't have to solve your problem today because tomorrow you're going to go away and all of your problems are going to be solved. It's largely religious. And then you get to. We're going to, we're going to replicate Palantir by doing a deploy co. I mean, it's a complete farce. Like the people who go there to solve the simplest, easiest problems that sell tokens. And the part they don't understand, honestly, and I told them this, I probably shouldn't, is they don't understand how unlikable they are and they're no good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he's right about the unlikable.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, totally. Totally. I, I always.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Palantir is still hanging in there. $130 a share.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I just saw it looking pretty good. You know, people think that Palantir is like this box that does everything. They. They didn't even have AI in their box until this stuff came along. It's just a big database. Yeah. What do you need? Well, Palantir, you know, all the data centers, they're going to collect all of our information and then we're going to be living in a panopticon.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think what he's worried about, if he's worried at all, is that if these things start to fail, this may be the triggering mechanism for a huge correction that dropped the Stock down to

[Adam Curry]

100 or less or drop it down

[John C. Dvorak]

to God knows what.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it'll be interesting. I don't know. About see, the hedge that Elon has is he's got more than just xai. He's got the space stuff in there. He's got the. He's got the satellite stuff and he's selling. And he's selling his compute to the other guys. I think he may actually do. Okay. It's OpenAI and Anthropic. Those are the ones that'll be interesting to see, but I guess they're going to wait. We'll see what happens.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think those are going to come out next week or the week after or something.

[Adam Curry]

Really, really? That fast?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I thought they were all coming out at once, more or less.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then Google's asking for some money. Y they need it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we know they need the 40 billion half of it. They for compensation. That's why they need the money.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right.

[Adam Curry]

Some problems over there. And then. Oh well, Anthropic is doing their marketing. Yes. Here we go. Remember that Mythos model? It was so scary we couldn't release to the public. We had to only give it to a few partners.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

We have some breaking news on answer.

[Adam Curry]

Always breaking news.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Speaking of AI and maybe speaking maxing, Kate Rooney has the story.

[Adam Curry]

Hi, Max.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Hi, Kelly. So Anthropic just rolling out a Mythos level AI model to consumers. That is the important part of that

[Adam Curry]

sentence to why the laughter?

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

If you haven't heard of Mythos, really? Anthropic's buzzy cybersecurity model. It had only been available to a select handful of companies. It rolled out back in April. At the time, Anthropic said it was an ultra powerful technology that excels finding decades old security vulnerabilities. It was essentially too powerful, they said, and risky to put in the hands of the general public. It got a lot of attention on Wall street and the Trump administration as well. It is now widely available. It's not called Mythos though. It is called Fable 5. It's the same underlying technology though, as Mythos. Anthropic says there are more safeguards involved, especially around things like biochemical and cybersecurity. I did speak to Diane Penn over at Anthropic. She likened this rollout to a credit card. I think this is an easy way to understand it. Certain people have certain spending limits and then there are additional verifications for enterprises that might get a higher spending limit. So you can think of that in the context of Mythos. Penn told me they want to be intense.

[Adam Curry]

Did you understand the analogy? What does she say?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. What she's talking about, she's babbling.

[Adam Curry]

I think what she's saying is that you. That they have to still pre approve you to use the fable 5. Who comes up with these code names, Bull of crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know the Gary Marcus the guy had as a tip of the day people.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you for that. I've been reading his. His substack.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, his thesis. He says, look, here's what these guys do. First they come out and they. Because they got a new version coming out. So they say, we can't release the version because it will destroy all mankind. We don't know what to do. And so the news media picks that up and they, oh, this is going to be terrible. And then they end up releasing it like a month later. And then the news media picks it up saying, oh, just what the clip you're playing actually, oh, they released the crazy thing that could destroy all mankind. And then they do the same thing over and over every six months they'll pull the same stunt. And it works every time because the media news cycle, I don't know, people are bored.

[Adam Curry]

They have nothing better to talk about. That's all they have. That's all they have. It's what the news does, you know, hey, the World cup is kicking off. That'll change the news cycle.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Watch party.

[Adam Curry]

You'll love that. Meanwhile, what has been long expected in Europe is happening with the beheading of a citizen of Ireland.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they didn't quite behead him, did he? I think he gouged his eyes out.

[Adam Curry]

Attempted beheading. He didn't have a knife big enough, but it's kicking off.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Homes, cars and a public bus ablaze on the streets of Belfast. People forced to flee as firefighters battle the flames while political leaders try to dampen the anger that sparked the destructive protests. Many people are feeling angry and many people are feeling deeply distressed, which is entirely understandable. First Minister Michelle o' Neill has addressed the knife attack that's left a man in his 40s with serious injuries to his face, neck and back. And the response that's followed. People are feeling a bag of emotions about what they have witnessed. But my message today is one of calm and don't allow those people that don't care about people here to incite hatred, to incite fear. Don't allow those people who are faceless to orchestrate campaigns. And on the streets, a Sudanese man who was granted refugee status after arriving in 2023 has been charged with attempted murder over the Belfast attack. But police are still trying to Determine a motive. Police Service of Northern Ireland Chief Kung Fu Constable John Butcher is urging the masked youths gathering around the city to stand down.

[Adam Curry]

Please, please, let the police do their job. Unfettered and undistracted by wider concerns there may be about disorder.

[John C. Dvorak]

Man.

[Adam Curry]

Let the police do their job. Really, that's, that's exactly what everyone saw them doing with the. With the kid who was dying. The violence in Northern Ireland follows.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, you're not stabbed.

[Adam Curry]

The violence in Northern Ireland follows trouble in the city of Southampton in England last week. Arrests were made there after police were criticized for handcuffing a dying white man who'd been stabbed by a Sikh man. He wasn't an immigrant, but he was born in Britain. He had falsely accused his victim of racism. The arrest was filmed and widely viewed online. I asked our UK political correspondent Rob Watson why immigration is such a hot button issue in the uk.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why?

[Adam Curry]

Really? Why? We can't figure out. I can't figure it out. Well, I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't get it.

[Adam Curry]

What's happening pitch. Because we've now had two videos showing truly graphic violence. And I think you can't understate how important it is that these dreadful videos have been seen by so many.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stop the video, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

But around the world, and it's very hard to see these videos without having a strong reaction of horror, sadness, anger, depending, of course, on the kind of person you are. And so what does that mean, depending on. Wait a minute, what kind of person

[John C. Dvorak]

could be a cold blooded asshole?

[Adam Curry]

Action of horror, sadness, anger, depending of course, on the kind of person you are. And so what that has done is that it sort of brought this simmering concern about immigration and social cohesion very much to the fore. And it is extraordinary that before these two videos, even if you look at the polling, it does strongly suggest the concern about immigration, not just illegal immigration or about refugees or asylum seekers is actually now a more important issue for British voters than even the economy. Which is pretty extraordinary. Yeah. Oh, yes, Very, very extraordinary. And here's very strong. Now, this won't affect Keir Starmer at I don't think, but his message is not what people want to hear. Mr. Speaker, people are rightly sickened by the horrific attack on Monday night in north Belfast. As you have just said, the man arrested has been in court in Belfast this morning and charged. I want to thank the police service of Northern Ireland and other first responders and members of the public who responded with such bravery. And our thoughts are with the victim. But let me be clear Mr. Speaker, the acts of violence and arson that followed are totally unjustified. Unjustified. This morning I spoke with the First Minister, the Deputy First Minister and the Chief Constable and the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland is meeting leaders in Belfast today. We are united in calling for calm and determined to restore order. Order. Support the police and all those on the front line and ensure that justice is done. This is not what people want to hear. This is going to happen all over Europe eventually. The. The Irish, they're just, you know, they're primed for that. That's part of their culture. But this is. It's bound to happen every single time this takes place now. People are going to come out, start burning homes.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not less by any means.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's not. But how crazy are these European and. Well, I'll just say European UK representatives. They're stupid.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's all part of the global elite, globalist agenda.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Meanwhile, in Texas, my.

[John C. Dvorak]

What. Tries to get away from it.

[Adam Curry]

My. Except in Trinidad, my septic guy just texted me. Here's how we work in Texas, you know, he checks on the septic system every six months. Please have all trip mines and explosives secured and disengaged as we'll be on the property shortly. That's Texas. Yeah, yeah, I got you.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he's serious.

[Adam Curry]

He means it. I love that.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, so I got a couple of offbeat things here. I have one clip that about you. Scott Pelley, as we talked about last show, was fired.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so the New York Times, there's one woman who does these interviews that called the interview. And she's good because she's pretty objective and she's.

[Adam Curry]

Isn't that Lulu? Isn't that Lulu?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, maybe it's Lulu.

[Adam Curry]

I think it's Lulu. Yeah. Dulu, she.

[John C. Dvorak]

She sees everybody as full of crap and she kind of, without overdoing it, she's really quite good at it. And she lets Pelly go on and on. He does this long. It's about an hour. And he's crying.

[Adam Curry]

I know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Moaning and crying.

[Adam Curry]

He's crying about the daughter of. What is it some reporter? No. Was it like the granddaughter of who was the big CBS guy?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, Palin or not Palin, but Paley.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Or what?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no.

[Adam Curry]

Cronkite. Cronkite, wasn't it?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, one somebody or one of them. There was some. Yeah, she worked there for a while and she got fired and. Oh, my God.

[Adam Curry]

Anyway, here's the bottom line. You become a journalist because of democracy. That's the message.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got this one clip out of the whole. I mean, I could have clipped quite a bit, but I thought this was interesting. This is a clip where he, he says one thing and within, within 60 seconds of saying it, he contradicts himself and is. He's talking about. Oh, yeah. As soon as Bilton showed up, he looked at the memo and he says, oh, they're going to fire all of us. They're going to fire all of us. And then within 60 seconds he says, I was stunned when I was fired.

[Adam Curry]

They wiped out a large number of people. Wiped him out. One of the things Nick Bilton said in that ill fated email to the staff was that he was excited to tell. I'm paraphrasing here. He was excited to tell the staff about the new crop of correspondence.

[John C. Dvorak]

And when I saw that, I thought,

[Adam Curry]

okay, they're going to fire all of us eventually. That's the plan. He put it in writing for all of us to see. And so that's why I use these, admittedly for a journalist, hyperbolic terms. They capture the scale of what happened.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

You then do have a meeting with CBS leadership after this very contentious interaction. Can you tell me about that meeting? And if you were at that point going in expecting to be fired?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, gosh, furthest thing from my mind, it hadn't occurred to me. That's good. I have two clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

Doofus.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it gets even better here, Mr. Journalist, about the, the bias that specifically Barry Weiss wanted.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, let me. Can I give you a little, a little background, Aaron? When they put, before he played the clip, he goes on and on about she's trying to put her thumb on the scale, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she made these suggestions and they implemented none of the suggestions that Barry Wise suggested. And then there was no pushback at all. So what's the big deal? She tries to get that out of him, but she can't do it right now.

[Adam Curry]

CBS News, in my view, is on fire. This is Morning Joe with the music and everything. They add a bunch to it. It's great. This morning, the new interview, Scott Pelley speaking out on camera for the first time since his firing last week from the iconic CBS News broadcast 60 Minutes. It's like your spouse was murdered. What the mood among the 60 Minute staff is. I've been fired. Have you ever been fired? You've been fired?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Did it feel like your wife was murdered?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, not really. I think that would be a little more traumatic.

[Adam Curry]

I think so, too. Word that several of my sources have used with me. They feel demoralized, Dismayed. Peli dismissed following a reportedly contentious meeting with show staff accusing newly installed executive executive producer Nick Bilton of having slender qualifications and saying CBS News Editor in Chief Barry Weiss was murdering 60 minutes after several top correspondents and producers were let go. It was the wholesale nature of it. Our senior staff wiped out. We had a triumphal year. So this is incredibly difficult to understand. A triumphal year. What do you mean? They had to read. They had to take back interviews that they edited deceptively. What was the triumph they had?

[John C. Dvorak]

Their numbers were up.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, numbers were up. Kelly also saying Weiss tried to have him insert bias and falsehoods into a story. This is my favorite listen to the journalist giving multiple notes on a report about the killings of American citizens Renee Goode and Alex Preddy by federal immigration officers. Two of the things in the email include, can we make the protesters look more violent? Okay, so in the email, two of the things. One was, can we make the protesters look more violent? Now, I'm paraphrasing. I don't have the quote. What? But that's what was communicated to me. Where's the email? I would have that printed out in my pocket. He's paraphrasing. So what did it actually say? This is not journalism. I find that egregious.

[John C. Dvorak]

I kind of miss that. That's good.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. It's like, what are you doing here?

[John C. Dvorak]

You're doing a lot of paraphrasing.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And the other thing was Renee Goode's car. You need to describe her as driving toward the officer. I'm paraphrasing. He says his team rechecked to make sure nothing was missed before deciding to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Deciding not to take the notes.

[Adam Curry]

That episode of 60 Minutes came within 19 minutes of not making air. You know, this is a guy who's been at the company for a long time and long before Barry Weiss. He didn't feel valued. You can tell. He's just like, no one cares. No one values the important work we do. Our honesty, our integrity.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm going to change it from we do to I do.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, yes, to I. It's a guy. This is the guy. Just felt undervalued. And here's the final clip to prove it. In a statement, a CBS News spokesperson telling Ms. Now Weiss points had no political motivation and were proposed solely to make the piece as strong, fair, and accurate as possible. As is frequently the case in any newsroom that operates with collaboration, not everything she raised made it into the final piece.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Is it possible to see this as the system working? She had notes. You felt they didn't make sense to take. The piece ran and there was no retaliation.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it was the interference as a problem and. What interference? It was interference and pushing back like you. You can't. You stupid sub stacker. You can't tell me what to do. I'm Scott Pelly. The bigger problem, Lulu, frankly, is not any kind of political influence. The problem was, well, this is what we've heard over and over again, that this is Trump's channel. The incompetence. In the interview, Pelli emotional, talking about the treatment of his colleagues. He also responded to President Trump calling him stupid and stiff and saying he doesn't care about the country. You become a journalist because you love the country. No, no, I gotta disagree with that. You do not become a journalist because you love the country. What was. What was his first journalistic job?

[John C. Dvorak]

We can find out soon enough just by looking him up. Yeah, look, that's the Book of Knowledge.

[Adam Curry]

No, that's a good idea. Hold on a second. Book of Knowledge. What was Scott Pelly's first job in? Journalism. I hope it's something good. Good.

[John C. Dvorak]

It'll be lame.

[Adam Curry]

According to the Book of Knowledge, Scott Pelly obtained his first job in journalism at the age of 15 as a copy boy for the Lubbock Avalanche Journal in his hometown of Lubbock, Texas. It has been written.

[John C. Dvorak]

So he's a copy boy because he loved the country.

[Adam Curry]

That's why he got into it, man. And while all the other descriptions that the President used about me might be applicable. Not that one. Not that one. There is no democracy without journalism. Really, Scott? Is that really it? There's no democracy without journalism? How about First Amendment? Maybe? I don't know about journalism. Before Pelly's interview dropped Sunday, three 60 Minutes correspondence, Leslie Stahl, Bill Whitaker, and John Wertheim confirmed in a memo to their colleagues they would continue on the show for now saying, quote, we don't want to see 60 Minutes die. But they made it clear they were here to walk if their independence was not respected. Yeah, but we'll walk if our independence is not respected.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, sure, you walk.

[Adam Curry]

We'll walk. Yes, we'll walk. Exactly. Ah, well, yeah, you know, there's a time for coming, a time for going. Scott Pelly. Just happens,

[John C. Dvorak]

I get picked up by someone.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, of course. No, no, no, no, no, no. The Pelly podcast. The Pelly pod.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you're right. I'm so. What am I thinking?

[Adam Curry]

What's wrong with you? Man. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

You already came up with that last show. Pelly Pod.

[Adam Curry]

No, we talked about it after the show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, Pelly Pod.

[Adam Curry]

The Pelly Pod. It's going to be the Pelly Pod. It'd be great.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. All right. There's a couple other things. What do you got in your screen? Can I just say. Can I just flag something for you, please? Last episode and this episode, at least four times you say, I got a couple of screwball clips. Just say it's clips because it's screwball. They're good clips. It's not screwball.

[John C. Dvorak]

Am I you overusing the word screwball?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, a little bit.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is that what you're accusing me of?

[Adam Curry]

I'm flagging it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I think you're correct.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so what kind of clips do you have?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I feel bad.

[Adam Curry]

Don't feel bad. Screwball. Screwball is a. Is it?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I have the Whatever girls, which is always good for a laugh.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, brother, here we go.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I don't want to play that.

[Adam Curry]

All right, let's go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's do some serious clips because we need updates on Artemis.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yes. No chicks. Which charged with an R. Artemis with an R. Yes. Okay, got it. What do we know about this crew and this historic mission, what they're going to be doing? Yeah, so it's. Let's talk about the mission first.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, this is a bridge between

[Adam Curry]

that Artemis II mission from just a couple of months ago that flew around the moon. Didn't land on the moon. Flew around it. First time astronauts had been in the vicinity of the moon since 1972. And then the mission after this upcoming one is going to be a landing on it. This is a test where they're going to take that Orion spacecraft and they're going to dock with the two lunar landers, the spacecraft that are actually going to ferry the astronauts to the surface

[John C. Dvorak]

of the moon and then back up

[Adam Curry]

before they come back. They're going to do those tests, though, on this mission, the Artemis 3 mission in Earth orbit. And so today, what NASA did to great pomp and circumstance was name the crew of that mission that are going to be testing out these lunar landers. And there is talk about ramping up the cadence of this mission, in essence, trying to speed things along. Well, yeah, and that's. That's what NASA is saying. And they would like this mission to go in 2027 ahead of a landing in 2028. But you have seen the news that one of the companies involved in this blue origin is a company owned by Jeff Bezos, just a couple of weeks ago had their new Glenn rocket, which would be vital potentially to this mission, just explode in dramatic fashion, obliterated the launch pad. NASA says they're going to be ready in time for this, but we shouldn't discount the fact that the other provider, which is Elon Musk, SpaceX, they've made a lot of progress with their starship vehicle, which is their lunar lander. But it's never flown, people. It's never left the vicinity of Earth, it's never landed on the moon. And so while they're putting faces to this mission, whether they'll be able to do it next year and then have a lunar landing by 2028, I think a lot of people are frankly skeptical about that. Yes. Including your no Agenda show podcast. Totally very skeptical about that. Now, wouldn't that affect the SpaceX stock? It's going to be interesting to see how space news will affect the stock. That whole stock is going to be fun to watch.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I don't think it's going to affect it as much as a SpaceX vehicle blowing up and taking the whole.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that can happen.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's a risky.

[John C. Dvorak]

And of course, what would really sink the company would be people getting killed.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's a bad day when that happens. A little bit of Epstein news, which I thought was interesting coming from a new book titled Regime Change. You heard about the Regime Change?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no. All I heard recently about Epstein is Bill Gates testim.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but I have a clip, but it's just nothing. All he says is, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to do it. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he said, according to this morning. He did. Somebody leaked that. He said that he was being blackmailed.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Yeah, but we knew that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't believe it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we knew it, but it was the STD thing that, that note that the, the email that Epstein had saved in his Gmail draft.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yes, maybe that's.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, this, if you call that blackmail. Yeah. Here' here's the Miz now version of the story of the book Regime Change.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Danielle, I could understand the strategy of trying to utilize MAGA Media, but MAGA Media, Tucker Carlson interview. Maxwell, what's your reaction to that? I mean, I think that it's incredibly shocking. But for me, what is most disturbing are the people that were in, in the Situation Room and the way that Haberman and Swan started off their. Their piece was stating what the Situation Room is actually used for. Right. Like war and discussions of strategy around our foreign relations and domestic issues, et cetera. And the fact that so many of Donald Trump's top staff, cabinet members were in that Situation Room without him to discuss how to cater.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

How to create a priority package for the Epstein files is incredibly shocking. But the idea that Tucker Carlson to sit down with Ghislaine Maxwell and Tucker Carlson, who has been at odds with this White House on a number of issues, is really just, it's extraordinary. But to me, the most extraordinary part is how many people were involved in the spin, in the COVID up, and in the lie that this White House said that Donald Trump had nothing to do with the Epstein files. And yet these are not the actions that are taken by innocent people.

[Adam Curry]

So, so here they're guilty, they're covering for pedophiles. Here's the backstory. So Susie Wiles, Levitt, Bondi, Blanche Patel, Bongino, they're all in the Situation Room throughout in the summer of 2025 because they want to contain the Epstein files fallout, fearing that the MAGA base would turn on them, which of course is exactly what happened. And apparently Bongino was like, f you, Bondi, you screwed this up from the start. Which is also true.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, absolutely true.

[Adam Curry]

And so Trump wanted this stuff buried. This is all according to this book, Regime Change.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who wrote the book?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, Maggie Haberman. And she's one of my favorite New York Times people. Oh, no, it's all New York Times. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, where did they get this information?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, well, uncorroborated, of course. So apparently J.D. vance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me, let's stop right here. The Situation Room is a room that is one of the most protected. It's almost, it's almost like for a reason.

[Adam Curry]

For a reason.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's like a skiff that you. There's no listening devices, you can't get in, you can't get out kind of thing. So sad to be somebody in the meeting that's friends with Halberman Haberman.

[Adam Curry]

Well, remember, this is the same Situation Room the New York Times wrote about where they said that Netanyahu was running the meeting, sitting at the head of the table, and Trump was in the corner sulking or sleeping.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it could be bull crap.

[Adam Curry]

It could be. So apparently JD Vance floated the idea of having Tucker Carlson interview Ghislaine Maxwell in prison, hoping she'd exonerate Trump. And they chose Blanche instead. According. Let's see, the tactic they came up with. Blanche proposed unsealing motions expected to be denied so the administration could blame the judges for non disclosure. This is according to, to Newsweek and Axios who summarize the book and something from the New York, from the New York Times. So the big thing here is the story, as far as I can tell is that they wanted Tucker to interview Ghislaine Maxwell, have someone friendly do it, which they ultimately didn't go with. And it's being played, as you know. Well, they clearly had something to cover up. Whereas I think the other side of it it is Trump knew, as he said, let's put it that way. He said this is a Democrat hoax, which so far seems to be correct because there's really nothing about Trump in there other than some crazy FBI papers talked about him raping a 13 year old, which came from a phone call.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, some anonymous call. Hello?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I got some info for you. Yeah. So here's Tapper Jake on the New York Times excerpt from the book as they promote it heavily right before the midterms. Of course. We're going to start with the eyebrow raising report today. Eyebrow raising detailing the White House freakout. That's in quotes. White House freakout over the Epstein files last summer. This New York Times article is drawn from reporting done for the new book Regime Change, which comes out in roughly two weeks. It's by New York Times White House reporters Maggie Haberman and John Jonathan Swan. Here are some of the highlights of Today's excerpt. On July 17, 2025, about a year ago, a chunk of Trump's top officials who you see listed on your screen, led by the Vice President, filed into the White House Situation Room without the commander in chief, without President Trump, they were trying to figure out how to regain control over the growing ugly narrative that the Trump administration was at the very least complicit in a cover up for the crimes of now dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and other predators in his orbit 10 days earlier, the Justice Department notice how he says pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's what you do.

[Adam Curry]

The very least complicit in a cover up for the crimes of now dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and other predators in his orbit. Ten days earlier, the Justice Department and FBI had released their Nothing to see here memo saying that their review found no client list of the powerful men to whom Epstein had allegedly trafficked. Girls, underage and women. Vice President Vance reportedly told the group this is a huge problem. And he argued that all the Epstein files should be released. The report says, quote, Vance had also floated to colleagues an extraordinary PR gambit that the White House enlists Tucker Carlson to interview Epstein's longtime girlfriend and Co conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell in prison. It might help the president if Maxwell was willing to state that Trump had not been part of any wrongdoing with Epstein. Spoiler alert, Tucker did not get that gig. You will note, however, that the goal here, as stated, seemed to be to get Trump cleared by Maxwell, who is a criminal with questionable credibility, to say the least. So that seems to be the headline. So I don't think there's much else in the book.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's probably the book.

[Adam Curry]

That's probably the book right there. Maybe this one is a little bit here. Here's how some of the Situation Room debate down. According to this Times report by Haberman and Swan, quote, the Vice President said he thought the President would be okay with releasing the nipple related documents arguing that Trump had been accused of worse. I think we should put it out. He said it would cause people to say we're going for this is the nipple gate. Somewhere. Apparently in the files, which I have not seen, someone claimed that Trump liked nipples.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, brother. This is like that Guerrilla TV bull crap.

[Adam Curry]

Guerrilla tv. Oh, he watched gorillas first.

[John C. Dvorak]

Got in. In office.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

They made the claims in one of these Axios, somebody. Oh, that he sits and watches guerrilla tv.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he don't remember the gorilla.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I remember. Yeah, I remember. I remember.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he watches. That's all he watches. He goes on TV and he watches Gorilla. The gorilla channel, which doesn't exist, but because they created a phony channel for him just so he could watch gorillas.

[Adam Curry]

What? It's good.

[John C. Dvorak]

People lapping it up.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. The nipple related, related documents arguing that Trump had been accused of worse. I think we should put it out. He said it would cause people to say we're going further than we need to. Trump White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles quickly responded that the President would not, in fact be okay with it. No, I don't do that about nipples and me. That's no good. It was a point no one wanted to continue debating. This story summed up the White House dilemma. As the report put it. Quote, piles of accusations were impossible to disprove and equally impossible to make go away. Every door they opened led to another room and in every room were more claims from more women. Unquote. Yeah, claims from more women, none of whom will testify because they all get paid off.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

All right, final one. This is about Gates, billionaire Bill Gates telling Congress that Jeffrey Epstein was, quote, working to use information about Mike infidelities, unquote, to pressure Gates to re engage with him after their business contact had ended. Which sounds a lot to me like blackmail. Gates told members of the House Oversight Committee he had no knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. So why did the committee want to hear from Gates? Well, the Epstein files release revealed a degree of philanthropic coordination between Gates and Epstein that was more detailed than previously known. Plus, perhaps more importantly, a series of graphic again unverified allegations. One involved two draft emails that Epstein appears to have written himself in 2013, claiming that he had facilitated sexual encounters for Gates and help Gates obtain medication to hide a sexually transmitted disease from his wife, his then wife. The allegations, again unverified, uncorroborated. There's no indication the message was ever shared with Gates, that message in the draft file, or anyone else, frankly. And Gates has not been accused of any criminal wrongdoing in any sort of criminal proceeding. Gates has strongly denied these claims, but he said today Epstein threatened unsuccessfully to pressure him to use what he knew about his infidelities, quote, in addition to many lies that he layered on top. Excuse me. To re. Engage with Gates after they had cut out. He had cut off copies. Contact. Yeah. So sounds like a big nothing, this book. But see, you can. I mean, who publishes this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you look at it, probably Simon and Schuster.

[Adam Curry]

Aren't they the CBS guys? Simon and Schuster.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't keep track of it as well as I should.

[Adam Curry]

It just seems like. Well, I don't think there's anything good in this book because Tapper would be all over it. It just. It's not there.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I think they. I think you nailed it. This what, what they just talked about is the book. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So we got a boots on the ground feedback about you calling the iPhone the Antichrist.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Which was. Was a nice note from Ed. And Ed says.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then. And the funny thing is the note just caught on fire after you read it. Is that not mistaken?

[Adam Curry]

Finally, I can contribute some knowledge value to the show. During the opening of the show, John started talking about how the iPhone is the Antichrist. Well, I do sales for Frito Lay and I see people staring at their phone all the time while in the grocery store. What they are doing is a form is digital shopping. It's either Instacart or the store's own shopping app. They look like phone zombies. I see this all day during my work week, week. Thank you for your attention to this matter. So people are on the shopping app while they're shopping.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've seen this before. You go shot, you're in the grocery store and there's this guys, they're shot. Usually men. There's some women too, but mostly men. They. They grab a product, they look at it and then they use Google buys or something and they. They take a picture and see if the price is okay to see if they can get a better deal at the next store. I don't know what. What the point is.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this. This leads into a story that I picked up from KTLA and I looked into the study that is mentioned. Birth rates in the United States and elsewhere started falling in the year 2007. That is the same year that Apple introduced the iPhone. Is there a connection? Well, new research is suggesting. Yeah, that could be the case. So up till now, the most frequently cited culprits for falling fertility rates were contraception use, abortions and the rising levels of female education. Now attention is turning to the smartphone. Recently published findings indicate that as much as half of the fertility decline from 2007 to 2011 when the ICE iPhone was exclusive to the AT&T network, could be attributed to the arrival of Apple's groundbreaking gadget.

[John C. Dvorak]

Groundbreaking gadget. By the way, I should mention this is almost the identical story that ran on KGO locally.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it comes from a.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's all over the country.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, the National Bureau of Economic Research, they have a study which they published, but it's not peer reviewed, it's pre publication. So you know what that means. The claim is the iPhone rollout explains the 33 ding to 52% of the 20072011 US fertility rate decline quote as much as half kind of biggest effects on the young. Births fell to 5.85 4.5 to 8% ages 15 to 19. Wow. 15 year old and 3.2 to 6.6% ages 20 to 24. However, this is really what they say was the mechanism. Less in person interaction. Sounds true. More pornography and less sexual frequency. I don't think you need a study to come up with those results. We could have told you that. Now you need to play the your women clip your whatever girls.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, let's play this. This is the some. Some questions of the whatever girls.

[Adam Curry]

Name three countries besides the usa, Just Africa, Asia.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

I can't even think of a third one.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. How many continents are there?

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Eight. Six.

[Adam Curry]

Six. Name one continent. Do I need to answer? Yep. Oh my.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Can you just skip me first?

[Adam Curry]

Well, how about this? Let me help. I'll give a hint. You're from which country? Country China. Which is where? West. West. I know. West coast. East China is In which continent? Oh, cuz you're from China. Uhhuh. China's from which continent? East Asia.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Just give it to her, bro.

[Adam Curry]

What country is directly north of Mexico? Chloe?

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

North of north is up or down. I just was, I'm confused with the north side. South.

[Adam Curry]

Well on the map with your finger is north. What direction is north and what direction is south?

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

I don't know why that's always been

[Adam Curry]

so confusing to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like I'm sorry, I thought stupid.

[Adam Curry]

Well, so the problem is not the kids who weren't born, it's the ones who were born. That's the problem we have here. Wow, that's so sad. Again, that's a national.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, I'm taking the side of these women, okay? It's arbitrary. If you change the axis of the globe, I mean what's north and why is it north called north? Why is it not south? And when the poles shift, what happens then? Are you going to call north south? Okay, and what is up and down? South isn't down, that's down. You're pointing to the center of the earth. Up isn't, you know, north isn't up. That's the satellite you're going to hit with that fin, do you want. So I, I, I think a lot of this is just arbitrary. Yeah, you could make anybody look like an idiot.

[Adam Curry]

Are you looking for a cameo on the Whatever Girls podcast? I'm sure, sure it can be arranged. It'd be great. It just cough and hack a lock and they'll.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm just saying.

[Adam Curry]

So the controversy over Bill Pulte continues. The Democrats in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I have a clip too in

[Adam Curry]

the Senate now have they've come up with a gambit. I know what we're gonna do. We're gonna not extend section 702 where you can spy on everybody.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Okay. And then FISA, that is the foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. I'm well familiar with it. I know you are too. So it's been under threat of expiring many, many times. But now it's actually seems to be happening. And Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House is going to the White House today to talk about it. He spoke a little bit on the floor yesterday. Watch here.

[Adam Curry]

You cannot play politics with the security of the American people and praying that they come to their senses and that the Senate can work this out and we move forward and we do not let this critical national security tool expire.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

So apparently one of the Democrats big issues is that the acting Director of National Intelligence right now is Bill Pulte. Do you think the president should pull him?

[Adam Curry]

I think the president probably is in the process, Dana, of determining the. This is Senator Thune, who the long term person would be to fill that position. And I think that's going to be an important decision and one that will probably be determinative in whether or not Democrats support this. But here's the issue. This is an irresponsible position for the Senate Democrats to take the 702 program. First off, you had, you know, it was the, you know, air control issues. Then it was the border security issues. Sanctuary city. This is a party of defund the police, open borders, sanctuary cities. And now, now shutting down one of the most important tools we have to keep people in this country safe. And this thing goes dark at midnight on Friday. And what you heard the speaker say yesterday is absolutely right. This is an absolutely irresponsible position for the Democrats to take and one that puts at risk and in jeopardy the American people. If this particular program goes dark.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Are you able to, if there's some resolution today, do you have enough time to prevent it from going dark?

[Adam Curry]

It'd be hard. I mean, you know the Senate, the procedure on the floor. But if we could get cooperation. Yes, I mean obviously it requires cooperation, but that is the goal and hopefully the Democrats will come to their senses because this is, you cannot, you cannot take these risks now. I think it's good. Let it go dark.

[John C. Dvorak]

What, what was, what was 702 before the 9 11.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think it existed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well then how did we get by? Well, how is it possible we got by?

[Adam Curry]

We didn't 9 11.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fool.

[Adam Curry]

That's why we had all of this stuff. Because 9 11. Because, because 9 11. Patriot Act. Because 9 11. Yeah, we got. We're. I'm surprised Thune or Johnson didn't say that. Well you want another 911 and Section

[John C. Dvorak]

7, you save that for the end.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well he didn't say it at the end. Section 702.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, you say it for the end. If they can't get it to work, if they can't get it through, you got to.

[Adam Curry]

That'll be okay. But it's tomorrow. Tomorrow midnight. This goes dark. It goes dark like oh, the tool isn't gone. The tool is still there. You can still use it. It, you know

[John C. Dvorak]

we know from a surveillance state and they do a crappy job with hasn't done anything. No, it's just for political purposes.

[Adam Curry]

They get the Trump spy on other campaigns. Yes, that's what did you said you had a Clip on this?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I don't. I'm sorry. I thought I did.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I do have a clip of the Pope in the airplane. Have you heard this?

[Adam Curry]

No, I have not heard about the Pope on the airplane. Here we go. Pope Leo joined the crew aboard his flight to Barcelona today. The pontiff took the cockpit jump seat and chatted with the pilots after taking off from Madrid. Then he put on headphones and started chatting with the Air Force fighter pilot escorting his plane. The Pope's been in Spain all week for an historic visit. I had not heard that story.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's kind of funny.

[Adam Curry]

I like the lighting of the Sagrada. Familiar. Did you see that? That looked pretty cool.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, what happened?

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's the big church that Gaudi, you know, started building. You know, there's been under construction for what?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. The one in Barcelona?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. An 80 years. How long has that thing been longer? Long time.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's over 100.

[Adam Curry]

Over 100 years. So they kind of said it's complete. Although I don't know if it's ever really complete.

[John C. Dvorak]

Complete.

[Adam Curry]

They lit it up, man. They lit it up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm sure it looks great lit up.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, phenomenal. They had a. It was a perfect light show. Pope was on hand. They had orchestras playing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Have you been to thing?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Tina and I went three years ago. It's fantastic.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's kind of creepy.

[Adam Curry]

Really? When's the last time you went?

[John C. Dvorak]

What? When.

[Adam Curry]

When did you last see it? I mean, it's about.

[John C. Dvorak]

About eight years ago. Oh, what difference does it make? 100 years ago?

[Adam Curry]

Well, because when we went there three years ago, it was very. It was pretty complete. It didn't. Inside, it doesn't feel creepy. And outside, you know, it's interesting to look at.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it looks. I wasn't thinking of the inside being creepy. I think the whole thing is cre.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, well, I think it's kind of cool. It's an architectural wonder. It's a marvel. You have no appreciation for art.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's just the gouty stuff. That is gruesome. There's a bunch of gaudy stuff all over the town.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's that whole village. We went to that as well.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Village where he built apartment buildings.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. There's a lot of apartment buildings.

[John C. Dvorak]

It all looks like there's a gooey look quality to it. It's like you got something on your fingers and you hold.

[Adam Curry]

You open.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like a bunch of goo.

[Adam Curry]

I thought it looks like a sand castle. That you build where you drip sand, you know, you dribble it on top and you make your little sandcastle. So, big news in Europe. First of all, the Defense Secretary John Healy resigned, saying, you guys aren't serious about this. There's no money to defend the uk.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

British Defense Secretary John Healey has resigned from his position in a dispute over spending on defense.

[Adam Curry]

In a letter Posted on X, Mr.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Healey accused Mr. Starmer's government, of course the Prime Minister, of failing to provide

[Adam Curry]

the resources needed to defend the country. John, just that quick, read that.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Mr. Healey for months now fighting for more spending on defence.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. What we've heard is, as you mentioned mention, is very much the Defense Secretary saying there isn't enough money going in to the armed forces here in the uk. We have this defense spending review that was going to be published and will still be published in the Defense Secretary, quite simply saying that the money needed for him to be able to remain in the job in good faith is not available. And it's quite as simple as that. He says, of course, incredibly, incredibly damaging for Keir Starmer, as you might imagine. But this seems to be a matter of principle for the Defense Secretary who has worked on this spending review, has worked out the money needed in order for the UK's armed forces to have the equipment they need, to have the training they need, and to have the right number of them as well. With all these challenges facing the country and the world, as he put it, and he simply believes that the amount of money that is being made available is not enough, and so he has resigned on that point of principle. These are the guys who are going to defend everyone from Russia, which they continue to say they're going to do without the United States. Well, we got to ramp up our industrial, our military industrial base. And how's that working out for France and Germany? A joint Franco German fighter jet project champion by Emmanuel Macron and Friedrich Metz, has failed to get off the ground. The two leaders have agreed to scrap the deal. Airbus and Dassault Aviation couldn't, it seems, set aside commercial rivalry in a project designed to help Europe rearm for a future without American support. Clearly, there are vast repercussions on this decision. Let's bring in for some analysis on this Jeanette Source, who's a research fellow at the Study Committee for Franco German Relations. Jeanette, thanks very much for being with us here. We need your help on this one because looking at this from a neutral kind of perspective, as I am, it would seem that there would need to be some kind of cooperation between all parties on this kind of project because of its overall importance to the whole continent of Europe. So why has this failed to take off?

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Yeah, very good question. Thanks for having me. First of all. Yeah, it's one of the biggest projects, projects or even the biggest project that was foreseen in the European defense area.

[Adam Curry]

So everyone looked at France and Germany

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

and Spain, of course, whether they would make it. But finally the industrial rivalries were just too big. The project has been stalled for four years now. So it didn't really come as a surprise as such. Although there were mediation efforts being made

[Adam Curry]

even lately to break a compromise.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

But this didn't go for true.

[Adam Curry]

It seems a little bit depressing that these kind of interests of a company get in the way of the greater good, the global sort of need of the whole of Europe. So they couldn't even get their companies to agree on this. Say what you will, if Trump, he fixes that stuff real quick. Shut up. Shut up. And make it so they've got nothing. They can't build a fighter jet. Got nothing going on. They continue to poke Volodymyr to blow up stuff in Russia. It doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't seem like that's going the way they want. Or maybe it's exactly what they want. That's possible too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, maybe that's what they want.

[Adam Curry]

So thank you, everybody. Thank you everybody for the hundreds of emails about peptides. Highly appreciated. Every. You know, whenever you get an email that is 2000 words telling you why it's good or why it's bad, it's like there's too much explaining going on. And it seems like if you want this, it's. Now the new name is. It's called GLP3. That's the. That's the peptide everyone's talking about. That's the retro tude.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

It's a horrible name. It's an unlikely. It's not a marketing name.

[John C. Dvorak]

I didn't get the clip, but, you know, the GLP one is just a. It's Gila Monster Poison.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, we talked about that at

[John C. Dvorak]

least a long time ago.

[Adam Curry]

Two years years ago. It's coming around. And it doesn't actually contain GLP1, but it contains Gila Monster venom, which has a different medical name.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that extend in four, I think.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And then. And that triggers your own GLP1 and it paralyzes your stomach and. Okay, yeah. And blind you, so your eye rots. It has what they call a black box warning, you know, which is to be ignored at all costs. So my conclusion is if you work out and you want to get ripped and you eat tons of protein, you drink your protein shakes and you eat your beef, it's probably going to make you look. They call it the wolverine, the wolverine peptide. It makes you like a beast. And that's possible. I'm sure it's good. But I got this note from Renee who is a licensed therapist in Portland, Oregon and she wanted us to know about the mental health industrial complex

[John C. Dvorak]

and

[Adam Curry]

I thought I'd share that because I thought it was quite good. I work for a large mental health company. I've treated thousands of adult clients. I've noticed trends that I know originate from mental health content on social media. This content persuades viewers to self diagnose and to pathologize and medicalize normal human feeling states as in states of being states of feeling. Signs of stress become an anxiety disorder. Bad things happening becomes trauma. Quirky personalities becomes autism. Clients are 100% attached to their diagnoses because the diagnosis becomes their identity. I thought this was good. The attitude is clear. Everyone must be diagnosed and medicated for the greater good. I see this across age groups, backgrounds, locations, politics and genders. I hear clients scoff at a friend's unmedicated child or a mother in law with undiagnosed adhd. Personality traits that fall outside the approved spectrum of acceptance are increasingly viewed with suspicion. That's why everyone sounds like they're speaking in an HR meeting. I genuinely worry that at some point people may be coerced worse to accept the diagnosis and worse, forced to be medicated. Most of my clients are lifelong therapy consumers. They come in with on average three to four diagnoses and many take two to five psychotropic medications. The diagnostic and medication justifications are often completely unhinged. I rarely see documentation of such symptoms that justify the diagnosis anymore, and they're being medicated into outer space for it. Lately I feel like I'm treating anxiety and depression caused by the medications themselves. Yes, we've identified this hello which is not something talk therapy can meaningfully, meaningfully treat. These attitudes are readily visible on therapist Reddit. I'm not familiar with therapist Reddit. One thread about clients on the bipolar spectrum is what made me reach out the phrase bipolar spectrum isn't even a thing thing. It's not in the dsm. Once you introduce spectrum language, talk, talking a lot with a lot of confidence, optimism, high energy, ambition and creativity can all become symptoms requiring treatment. Often a mood stabilizer, antipsychotic lithium is no joke. So if you're. If you're confident, have optimism, high energy and ambition, you clearly need to be medicated.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's great.

[Adam Curry]

What concerns me most are the responses. Medication is first line. I'd start here. Meds, not therapy. And my favorite, are there children involved? Then you need to do a risk assessment, look at the initial symptoms and tell me why. They need to ask if children are involved. And she winds up by saying no agenda. Really got me through the COVID years. I'm starting to post on X GenX therapist Renee. I think that kind of sums it up. Up. And it's sad, but yes, we're on the. We need a spectrum. We need to come up with our own spectrum.

[John C. Dvorak]

The no agenda spectrum.

[Adam Curry]

Amygdala. Amygdala spectrum. Something. We need to come up with something.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we're on the topic of this sort of thing. Let's do a couple of screwball clips.

[Adam Curry]

I saved you and now you just do it again.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is kind of along the similar lines what you just read. This is. Is again the first time I've done a double with Brett Weinstein.

[Adam Curry]

Whoa.

[John C. Dvorak]

But this is a little discussion of COVID shots.

[Adam Curry]

Covid shots. Let me ask you a question. If this is a 4:2 minute and 41 second clip of Bret Weinstein.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you. If you think it's boring. Well, you think he's boring, so I shouldn't have said that.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, it's okay. We'll listen. We'll listen to Brett. Let me ask you a question. Are you still getting Covid boosters? No. You're not? Why not? Well, I've already had Covid a couple

[John C. Dvorak]

times, so I have natural immunity.

[Adam Curry]

You believe in natural immunity? Well, after the entire public health apparatus assured us. Wait a minute. Who is he talking to? Who is he talking to?

[John C. Dvorak]

Some one of his stooges that he has on his show every so often. Scientist guy who's all in on the COVID shot.

[Adam Curry]

Natural immunity was not good enough. And that you still got a benefit from. Oh, hold on. The Mac and cheese spectrum. Spectrum. That's what it is, John. I just saw that in the troll room. Got to call it out. Mac and cheese spectrum. That's what we're doing. Oh, they got it. Look, look, Brett, they got many things. Do you remember that moment in time? I do remember people like me shouting about this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I do.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so now we find out from Paul Offit that all of the major players gathered together and privately understood the very same thing. That they were gaslighting us over. They understood that natural immunity was the best immunity, that you were gonna come by and that a vaccine wasn't gonna augment it. And they decided to keep that to themselves. In spite of the fact that these vaccines are built on a novel technology they didn't know the hazards of.

[John C. Dvorak]

At best.

[Adam Curry]

So how is it that these people can privately meet and decide. There's a whole swath millions of people, hundreds of millions of people who'd already had Covid, who didn't need to take any risk, risk whatsoever from a novel vaccine. How is it that they get to privately decide to keep that information to themselves?

[John C. Dvorak]

Why?

[Adam Curry]

Given that they did that, given that you remember the moment in history at which they were not only were they disagreeing with us, which was a lie, they were gaslighting us, they were telling people like you that people like me were crazy. Who is the they and the them that he's referencing here? Fauci.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's talking about the Fauci's and everybody who had the meeting that said that we're not going to. We're going to downplay natural immunity and say it doesn't work.

[Adam Curry]

Is this is news. This is something that's.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, it's just. I like the excitability. It's not to us.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's be realistic. We're not going to play anything that's news to us.

[Adam Curry]

True, true.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's just that these guys, these, these, these Charlie come lately or Johnny come lately. So let me get the right.

[Adam Curry]

Charlie come lately.

[John C. Dvorak]

Charlie come lately. These Charlie come lately come in and they're all. And like Weinstein, I put in that category. He's, you know, he was on the right side of the argument. But then he's all bent out of shape because he's stunned. He's stunned there's gambling going on. And you stop playing that clip and let's skip to another clip.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is also long it. You can stop playing at some point. This is Michael Yeaden. This is a guy who worked for Pfizer. It's a Pfizer researcher, I think.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he says, and this, by the way, the only reason I want to play this, because this is something you Suggested on day one of the COVID 19 epidemic. A pandemic.

[Adam Curry]

Epidemic. Pandemic, yeah. There has not been a pandemic. Dennis Rancourt's data shows that the all cause mortality evidence data did not increase at all in the run up to the declaration fraudulent by who? Of a pandemic. There is no public health emergency except that created by our governments. A inappropriate fraudulent PCR test was used to give people the impression that they had a particular disease where they didn't. There were all the normal diseases. And then what happened was in three different ways. People were treated badly through changed medical procedures that were imposed above the level of name. Briefly, mass ventilation of people inappropriately in hospitals that led to lots of deaths. In care homes, many people were given sedatives and respiratory depressants which led to their deaths. My PhD was specifically in that area of opiates and respiratory depression. And in the community, people were denied life saving antibiotics and died of bacteria bacterial pneumonia. There's your pandemic. There is no other pandemic. And based on this lie we were told that vaccines were coming our way and would be our savior. You mean this was the testing piece, the pcr? Is that what you're referring to?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, the fact that there's no pandemic. There was no pandemic ever. This is the thing we once in a while still bring up. The fact that for some curious reason there was not one flu death and no cases. The flu that one year.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it was amazing.

[John C. Dvorak]

So his theory is there was no pandemic. The whole thing was a fake.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it was like just exaggerated by the phony baloney PCR test to make it look like there was more going on than there was. And I think that's backed up by my thoughts on the ambulances in front of the hospital that show up on the nightly news, but weren't there three hours later when a YouTuber goes by.

[Adam Curry]

By. Yeah,

[John C. Dvorak]

just, you know, just one of those clips. They're starting to come out now.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

All in hindsight, it won't mean anything. Of course it won't.

[Adam Curry]

Let's talk about the Jews for a second. I have a couple of Jew clips in particular. Israel. The great one. Your boy,

[John C. Dvorak]

Mark Levin.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, your boy, the great one, Mark Levin. America, waiting for your cue. He's very. He's very upset with the President. He's upset with the President for yelling at Bibi. Don't know why the President of the United States feels the need to keep

[John C. Dvorak]

going to left wing reporters and talking

[Adam Curry]

about confidential conversations he has with the

[John C. Dvorak]

Prime Minister of Israel.

[Adam Curry]

And I don't know why he keeps bashing the Prime Minister of Israel. Bashing? He's trying to protect his country and his own people. Just a few weeks ago, their fighter

[John C. Dvorak]

jets were fighting right alongside ours.

[Adam Curry]

The Mossad was working with the CIA and of Course, the prime Minister was working with the President in what was a spectacular military operation. I know the president is deeply desperate for a deal. The Iranians know he's deeply desperate for a deal. The whole world knows he's deeply desperate for a deal. Got it. And Israel's told it can only fight a defensive war. And Israel's told to stay away from Beirut, even though the head of the snake is right outside of Ben. The hypocrisy of our country that wouldn't put up with it in the treatment of that country is ridiculous. In fact, we don't ask any other

[John C. Dvorak]

country to do that. None.

[Adam Curry]

So why the constant beating up of Netanyahu? In fact, there was an announcement from the White House last night saying we had nothing to do with this. Our military is not involved. And I commented, well, that's nothing to be proud of. So Mark Levin is not happy with how this is going to be going. I'm not happy the President is bashing Bibi. But the interesting thing that popped up, I think Marjorie Taylor Greene and I kept hearing about people saying, even here, the, the ladies of Fredericksburg on the text group, I think Tina asked me. He said, is, is America going to integrate its army, its military with the, with the Israeli military? Like what, what have you heard? Have you heard this, this talk?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I have.

[Adam Curry]

So this is about section 2 to 4 of the National Defense Authorization act, which is always fun, but there's, there's a lot of different stuff in here that is worth talking about now. Very hard to get a straight read of 224. What's really in it? I was only able to find one W I O N which is comes with the appropriate Indian accent, but at least the, the information is correct.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

All right, and moving on. A new provision in U.S. house version of the 2027 National Defense Authorization act released earlier this week is now drawing attention for its potential implications for US Israeli defense starts, according to a report by Responsible Statescraft, a provision in the acts known as section 220. It lays the groundwork for bilateral research and development, co production of weapons, joint ventures, licensing agreements, and seemingly every manner of US and Israeli military industrial complex cooperation. This provision would greatly expand coordination to seemingly every area of defence tech, including AI quantum autonomous systems, directed energy, cyber biotech and many more. It also proposes network integration and data fusion. In other words, the report suggests that US military's data could soon be the Israeli military's data.

[Adam Curry]

So it's an integration of technology and data. And of course, the likely suspects Massie and Kahana are trying to get it out. We can't have this. We can't integrate these militaries. Sir Thomas Massie yesterday stated if the

[John C. Dvorak]

provision to the National Defense Authorization act which would basically integrate the US and

[Adam Curry]

Israeli militaries goes through. See I love, I love how that just essentially integrates them. They're one, it's the one in the same.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll offer an amendment to strip it

[Adam Curry]

off to strip it from the bill on the floor.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thomas Ro Khanna then responded to that today and stated I will be offering

[Adam Curry]

an amendment in the committee itself to strict to strip section 224 out. Thomas Matt Massey Trump can't kill the

[John C. Dvorak]

Massie Khan of partnership no matter how much he posts on Truth Social.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah, the Massey Kahana partnership. Let's find out what this really is about because it's kind of interesting.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

The U S and Israel have a 10 year defense agreement ending in fiscal year 2028. The U S committed 3.3 billion per year in foreign military financing grants plus 500 million for missile defense cooperation. That's $38 billion to total.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, over 10 years.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

We have financially supported Israel since 1949. What began mostly as economic aid has become over time a heavily military relationship. The fiscal year 2027 National Defense Authorization act section 224 would create a lead office inside the Pentagon to synchronize US Israel cooperation across AI, quantum computing, cyber defense network integration and data fusion. To be clear, integration and defense technology does not equal a literal merger of armed forces forces. In my opinion it's nearly as bad, maybe worse. So let me explain. There are two older bills, both called the United States Israel Defense Partnership act of 2025 which have been sitting in committee since February 2025 with over 200 combined co sponsors. The same policy concepts now appear in the must pass NDAA process.

[Adam Curry]

So the idea is to I guess the 3.3 billion which is the money we're giving to Israel that people have their panties in a bunch of over which they need to spend on our military stuff is coming to an end in 2028. So this of course needs to be rejiggered so we can't lose $3.3 billion for the military industrial complex. So they've decided to do it a different way to end that which I think is cosmetic. Well, oh, we're not giving money to Israel anymore. And I'm against this section 224 but for different reasons. And it's in this clip.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Stephen Simon from the Quincy Institute published a brief this month. His brief is a warning the next phase of US Israel defense support may become less visible. Under the current agreement, about 25% of the annual 3.3 billion dollar grant, roughly 825 million a year, could be spent by Israel inside its own defense industry. But that phases down to zero by FY 2028. Simon's warning is that instead of simply ending that support, the relationship would be reorganized. Israeli firms and Israeli origin technology would become more embedded inside U.S. defense procurement. CO production, research and development, licensing and sustainment programs. Plain English. The aid check could disappear from public view while the financial support continues via Pentagon budget and procurement systems that are much harder for the public to track. Foreign military financing is visible. We can see when it's debated in Congress, we can see when it's budgeted. And because it's foreign aid, lawmakers can ask questions about conditions, accountability and whether the support should continue. Pentagon procurement is different. It runs through weapons contracts, production lines, research programs and co production agreements. The language is not diplomacy or human rights. It's readiness capability and whether a system supports the US military. What we have right now, which is a foreign aid package, can be used as leverage over their conduct. A co production contract is treated more like a business arrangement. If the partner company delivers the system meets the contract terms and supports the mission. The contract has done what it was designed to do. That's a major oversight gap. Simon's conclusion is blunt. Quieter does not mean small. Smaller. The financial flows could be as large as or larger than the current grant. They just will not look like aid. Once these programs are embedded in production lines, US contractors, workers and supply chain become part of the argument to keep them going. Simon's point, the support may not disappear. It may move into a less visible system that is harder for the public to track.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, so I'm not against the integration of the technologies and all that, but no. The Pentagon needs to pass an audit. We can do anything with that. That's a. That's a hole. It's a black hole. It'll cost us much, much more.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, this is typical. Where's the audit? Yeah, they should. Where's that is even a theme? Why isn't Massey even mentioning this? Does he.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you. No, of course not.

[John C. Dvorak]

Big talker, blah, blah, blah. What about the audit? Dork?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, that's why I'm against it. Stop that nonsense. Although, you know, supposedly it's all better now. Hagseth got his finger on the. On the pulse.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, it has.

[Adam Curry]

He's got his Finger on the pulse. He's going to take care of all of it for us and then. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Oh, go ahead.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm going to play a clip that's kind of fun. This is a out of New York. They're really making headway there. In New York state, have you heard about the gestating parents?

[Adam Curry]

Gestating parents?

[John C. Dvorak]

No definitions in New York state.

[Adam Curry]

Actually, New York Democrats argue the words mother and father are outdated and need to be replaced with more inclusive terms under state law. All that's needed now is Governor Kathy Hochul's signature. So if Hochul approves, in New York's family court and in domestic and education law, a mother would be labeled as a gestating parent, a father as a non gestating parent, and paternity proceedings to determine the child's father would be called parentage proceedings. The bill passed the state Senate this week and the State assembly back in March. Governor Hochul proudly calls herself New York's first mom Governor. No, gestating governor. She can't be a mom governor. She has to be the first.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, she's a gestating governor. Governor, yeah, to me exemplifies that. It doesn't make a big difference whether Spencer wins or loses the mayoral spot in la, because the City Council in LA and the same as San Francisco. They're all nuts.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they are.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you have the same thing at the state level. The legislative body in New York and California are nuts.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they are.

[John C. Dvorak]

And what are you going to do about it?

[Adam Curry]

Nothing. Keep podcasting. Keep on going. We can do it.

[John C. Dvorak]

You keep podcasting.

[Adam Curry]

I want to hear the Nick Reiner story before we take a break. Here, play this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nick Reiner needs money.

[Adam Curry]

New court documents tonight reveal a high stakes fight in the case against Nick reiner. He's the 32 year old son of actor and director Rob Reiner, who's accused of killing his parents last December. Reiner wants a judge to order the release of money from his trust fund. National correspondent Carter Evans is here to explain how that fund might be used for his defense. Carter? Well, good evening, Matt. Nick Reiner's trust fund is worth an estimated $1.5 million. And today his legal team filed a petition requesting access to that money. Now, Reiner's attorneys argue he was entitled to receive half of the trust when he turned 30, but that never happened. Reiner is now 32. In the court filing, Reiner's attorneys say the trustee who manages the fund knew the payout was never made. But is still refusing to release the money, citing concerns regarding Nick's capacity to make sound decisions. Reiner says he needs the money to help pay for his legal defense in his murder trial and to fund his commissary account while he's in prison. The newly filed petition suggests money may have already played a role in the the defense. High profile defense attorney Alan Jackson initially represented Reiner, but withdrew from the case. And the documents reveal Reiner sought trust distributions to potentially bring Jackson back onto the case. Reiner is currently represented by a public defender. A judge will now decide whether the money must be released and if so, under what conditions. Ah, poor guy. He's nuts.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Obviously.

[Adam Curry]

Fund his commissary accounts 100 bucks a month. Let's just talk about Platner before we go, because I find this to be kind of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Platner got in, he breezed in. Platner, of course, is the. Is the guy the right wing loves to hate. And he's got a Nazi tattoo and he beats his wives or beats his women, locks him up. And he's a mean. He's got a lot of Reddit posts that are no good.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no good. No good. Do you have a clip?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Platner.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Many Maine voters told us today they were willing to look past Graham Platner's controversies if it would help Democrats win back power in Washington.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's so important that the

[Adam Curry]

Democrats capture the Senate seat that I'm willing to vote for a candidate whom I think is quite imperfect.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Platner himself did some last minute door knock, continuing to make his case after allegations from several former girlfriends appeared in the New York Times accusing him of unsettling and toxic behavior. One alleged he grabbed her and left marks.

[Adam Curry]

There are some allegations in this piece that I just want to be kind of unequivocal about are simply not true.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Platner, an oyster farmer and Marine veteran, has acknowledged he sent sexually explicit text messages to other women early in his marriage. Marriage. His wife has defended him and the two appear in a campaign video released today. Just last night, his former political director warned that Platner should not be a US Senator, writing he exhibits a pattern of dishonest behavior that's impossible to ignore. Platner is still expected to win tonight, but with control of the US Senate on the line in November, the questions about his past could be a liability. As he tries to to take out the veteran Republican Susan Collins, Platner has caught fire among progressives who say they want a senator who can buck President Trump. Bernie Sanders is Platner's top supporter, and he said this week that despite the controversies, he'll do everything he can to help Platner get elected.

[Adam Curry]

All right, well, David Brooks was not happy with Platner. He had this to say about him.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Some people are dismissing this as politically motivated. How are you looking at all this?

[Adam Curry]

The guy's a moral degenerate. You know, the abuse of women, the sexting, the Nazi tattoo. I don't even need to say anything beyond his Reddit posts, which are not in the past, by the way. He did that for a long time. Abusing rape, people who might have been raped, diminishing rape in the military, insulting fellow military officers, calling himself a communist. Just. It's a pathetic, empty guy who postures in a way that's kind of repulsive. There are 330 million Americans and there are 100 senators. We can't have a decent human being in those hundred. Like, we've got to. We're going to settle for this. You know, I just think the people. The Democrats are supporting Platinum for the same reason that Trump people are supporting Trump. Oh, okay, there it is. And I hate to do this, but no show is complete without it. Clip from the View at the tone,

[John C. Dvorak]

a clip from the View will be played. Shelter in place.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Controversial Democratic Senate candidate Graham Platen won

[Adam Curry]

the primary yesterday in Maine, which could

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

help his party take the Senate.

[Adam Curry]

But with new allegations of inappropriate behavior against him and his former campaign manager publicly pulling her support for him, people

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

are split on the baggage he's bringing into this general election as an independent. When partisanship rules the day and it stops being about people. You lose me every time. We have literally witnessed some of the most disgusting humans rising in power, handed over by voters, and you are telling me we're going to put another person up and turn our faces at the human he's shown us he is, and it has nothing to do with his marital discrepancies. I honestly, in this day and age, that's personal to me. That Nazi tattoo that he supposedly has covered up and said he didn't know what it meant, but many ex girlfriends said he used to proudly call it what it is, a totem cough, which is a Nazi symbol. He has shown us who he is. This was the party of MeToo. Women have made accusations. They have not been proven yet, but weren't we supposed to listen and hear them? The numbers of anti Semitic hate and. And this guy proudly wore a tattoo for years. And we're gonna say, well, this time, because we might Agree with this policy. We can turn our heads. I cannot turn my head. Look, I don't think Republicans at this point can ask us to take the moral high ground.

[Adam Curry]

There you go. That is over. There you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go.

[Adam Curry]

There you go. That is over. That's right.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

I am sorry. Democrats have always fallen in love, and

[Adam Curry]

Republicans have always fallen in line.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

It's time for Democrats to stop that nonsense, put emotions on the side. Let's be strategic. Let's get some power. Let's take over the Sen. Let's take over the House.

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

The ship. Let's get our country back. I am sorry. I am someone that believes in character.

[Adam Curry]

I am someone that believes that morals

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

matter, but not now, because of the state of this country.

[Adam Curry]

I would. If I lived in Maine, I would hold my nose and I would vote for Plat. Yeah, for Platner. That's right. What? Totem cough. Is that what they called it? The.

[John C. Dvorak]

His totem cough?

[Adam Curry]

Like C O U G h. No, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cop head.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, Totem kopf.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like Scheiss Kopf.

[Adam Curry]

I like totem cough myself as a show title.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Totem cough. Okay, breaking news. Breaking news. The deal could be signed this weekend. No.

[John C. Dvorak]

There goes the market.

[Adam Curry]

No, actually, looking at. Oil is down almost 5%. Right now. It's 86.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what you want?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah. But.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, and then the market. Stock market's skyrocketing.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. What do you mean? Oh, you mean. I thought you meant it was bad. No, the. The Dow Jones 929 up 20. Nasdaq up 640. It's primed for Elon. It's beautiful. It's going to be beautiful. Tomorrow's gonna be fantastic. Can't wait to see.

[John C. Dvorak]

For Elon.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. For. Well, yeah, for you. What? Tell me you don't have friends and family stock?

[John C. Dvorak]

Not for that,

[Adam Curry]

no. And apparently the President has nominated Jay Clayton to be the Director of National Intelligence, so. I don't know. That seems a little quick. I thought Pulte had some business to take care of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe he already did.

[Adam Curry]

We'll have to see.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I have one last clip I'll play, which is a. I'm thinking of making this like a segment.

[Adam Curry]

An item. A segment. Yes. We need a joke shingle.

[John C. Dvorak]

And this is about. And this segment is what I'm going to call First World Problems.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, wait, I thought we had it. Oh, no, you had a segment before, which is. That didn't happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that didn't happen as different than First World Problem.

[Adam Curry]

I know, but you've never followed up, so. Okay, well, we need to jingle.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I mean, I could add that too, but I haven't been able to find enough that didn't happen. So I think, I think I can find plenty of these.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Do you want on the fly jingle

[John C. Dvorak]

first? Yeah, sure.

[Adam Curry]

World problems.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

We've got to start fighting back against these coffee shops. I got a coffee yesterday. I got an ice. I got a latte. It was an extra 50 cents to add ice. That should be illegal. I'm sorry, you're a coffee shop. Coffee comes ice sometimes. Don't charged me 50 cents for it. I got an extra dollar to add vanilla. I. I know they didn't make that in house. I know that's a bottle of Moanin or whatever it is it's called. They charged me a dollar for almond milk in the year of 2026. Alternative milk should not be a dollar more. It shouldn't be any upcharge at all, but it certainly should not be a dollar because your dairy milk should not be the cheapest you can find at the store. So all in all, 8.50 for my iced vanilla latte. That look was not exceptional in any way. 850 for my iced vanilla latte with a tip. So 959.50 for an iced vanilla latte. I made. I made a better one this morning at my house with my Nespresso. These coffee shops are out of control. Out, out, out, out, out of control.

[Adam Curry]

This is the generation that says they have not ever witnessed prosperity like their parents.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we'll get a jingle. You should.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the meantime, I think there's plenty to be had.

[Adam Curry]

I think you're right.

[John C. Dvorak]

People in these mundane banal complaints about the price of a. Of an ice mocha. Vanilla latte.

[Adam Curry]

Latte.

[John C. Dvorak]

Almond latte.

[Adam Curry]

And with that, I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C and Charlie come lately. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John c. D. Well, good morning you

[John C. Dvorak]

Mr. Admiral Korea in the morning. All ships at sea, boots in the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water. And the dames are nice out there.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I'm missing all the noise makers. Too bad we don't have those 1319 today on the troll count who are listening [e-mail] or using one of the modern podcast apps. Turns out that the number two most used app for this podcast, there was a survey done recently over@livewireio. So, number one is Apple Legacy app with about 30%. Number two is Podverse. That's quite. That's quite extraordinary that, you know, we have been promoting the alternative and modern podcast apps and people are actually using it. And the reason why. Well, there's two that I can think of besides transcripts, chapters, location, people tag, all kinds of cool stuff. Did you just. What was that sound you made? You're slurping. Stop slurping. The benefits within 90 seconds of publishing the podcast that will show up in your modern podcast app through the Pod Ping technology. That is something that you now get with the legacy apps. And when we go live, we fire off the bat signal and you will be able to listen to the live broadcast in your podcast app. This is something that is just not available anywhere else. I don't think they're ever going to do it. I don't know why, because they would capture so much. But that's fine. We're happy to do it with our modern podcast apps. Podcastapps.com we are value for value here at the no Agenda show, soon to be celebrating our 19th anniversary in October. And we have never had an ad, we've never taken corporate money, we've never put you on subscriptions that you can't get off of. All we've said is if you get value out of the show for any reason, you laughed, you cried, you got mad, you learned something, got a stock tip, felt smarter about yourself, felt better about yourself, had something to talk about at the water cooler. You were informed, just send the value back to us any way that you want to. Time, talent or treasure. We love the boots on the ground, we love the expert, and we have the best and the most producers of any podcast, probably any media property in the universe at all. Because we do this collectively. And by the same token, we also need the treasure because we need to be able to pay the bills. And one way that people always like to help out is by giving us some artwork to use for our album art. We've been changing that for gosh, since almost since the beginning. We've been putting different art into our. Into our podcast. And once again, the artwork came not just as artwork, but we knew that when we chose it, it would be accompanied by a video. We congratulate Francisco Scaramanga for bringing us the Spank the press art, which a lot of people liked. And I knew it. I knew he would do a video and he did not disappoint. Did you see the video? It was good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there's spanking the press.

[Adam Curry]

Spanking the press is a good thing. I really. And I think I even said, if he doesn't do a video, we're never choosing him again.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did not say that. But it's a funny. It's a good threat. What you said was if he keeps doing videos, we're gonna not pick anybody else. Unless they start doing videos too.

[Adam Curry]

That's what I said. Yes. Thank you for reminding me. That's right. Because the videos is cool. Everybody can do them and it gives extra, extra bonus points for the show. It's great. There are a couple other pieces of art that we looked like a lot of screwworm art. I liked Blue Acorn Screwworm. You thought it was too gruesome. You didn't want that one. 1. Ryan M. Scott spammed the art generator. Noah artgenerator.com Then there was Harvey Weinstein spanking the press. No. A lot of Big Boobs with Tomahawks. No. The Devil Phone. Matthew Dropko. He had the right idea. Not a great execution. I personally, I kind of like the, the back rooms.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

You.

[Adam Curry]

You thought it was nothing. It was the. It was a takeoff on the movie.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. I didn't like that at all.

[Adam Curry]

You didn't like that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I hadn't seen the movie and I don't know who was no good.

[Adam Curry]

It was no good.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. You had the thesis. You said the young, the young. The kids. Them kids are going to see that and they're going to think we're hip.

[Adam Curry]

That's exactly how I talked about it. And then there was. Was the boobs calculator. I know you use it for the newsletter. Was that part of this run as well? Well, the speak and spell, I think it was. No, no. Was that the previous?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not sure.

[Adam Curry]

We get so much art.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it was the previous because you.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, we get a lot of art and I don't know if we have the one we'll pick yet. So there's plenty of time for you to upload to noagendaartgenerator.com we love going through it. It also shows us the things that hit during the show. Gives us a good idea of what people like hearing and we appreciate, appreciate all of the work, the prompting that everybody does. And now for the talent portion or the, I'm sorry, the treasure portion of time, Talents and treasure, which you can support the show by going to noagendadonations.com and it can be any amount. We love the numerology of it. Love that when people just come up with something crazy. We've had a lot over the years and we still start with john from Meridianville, Alabama, who was kind enough to send us $1,000. He added the fees, which is $30.26, and he says, Dear Adam and John, I've been listening to the show for longer than I would like to admit as a douchebag, but after John's publicity stunt, I have been compelled to donate. Not long after John rejoined the show, my dad had a similar incident resulting in a quadruple bypass pass. Witnessing John's steady recovery provided comfort and helped reduce the anxiety that comes from watching a family member undergo such an extensive procedure. I'm happy to report he is doing well and is well on his way to a full recovery. We're happy to hear that. As for me, I'm a recently retired army defense artillery officer with 22 years of experience operating and planning for the employment he says may meant deployment of air defense systems from mud to space. I am currently at the epicenter of air and missile defense development in the Huntsville, Alabama area and I'm looking forward to providing my insights into recent events as we have seen a decisive shift to drone centric warfare coupled with large volleys of ballistic and cruise missiles. You are hereby going to have to provide us boots on the ground. Yes, for my night name, I would like to be called Sir Tin Lee Hungwell. Sir Tin Lee Hungwell, Red Knight of the Rocket City and would like to splurge on one of those 800 doll tomahawk ribeyes for the roundtable. Apologies for the long notes. No. Thank you for your courage. No jingles, no karma. I will give him a deduce.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've been de douched. Okay. Michael Miller, huh? In Sausalito, California. 103026. Glad you two are still putting out the best podcast in the universe. Looking forward to the lapel pin to add to my no agenda paraphernalia. Karma for all.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, karma for all. Oops, I'm sorry. Sorry I screwed that up. Where's my karma for all? There we go.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want to mention something I want to put in the newsletter.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I'm thinking about maybe we should rethink one of our old promotions. Okay, so if you look at when Trump is sitting, I think it's in the Oval Office behind his desk. There's a. On his immediate left side there's a bunch of photos of his old family and stuff. And on his right side and I have a picture out which I'll put in the newsletter eventually, sooner than later. A display of what appears to be be a probably 50 challenge coins of all sorts.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, we used to be big on

[John C. Dvorak]

the challenge coins and it just, just looks cool. And so the President of the United States who sets the moral tone for the nation according to every political science course you'll ever take is into challenge coins. It sounds like an opportunity. It just hasn't been discussed. Somebody, some reporter is going to have to ask him about this.

[Adam Curry]

I haven't heard anything about his challenge co coins.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he's got a ton of them. They're right off his right shoulder.

[Adam Curry]

Well because he's hanging out with the military all the time. So you know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Well, Mr. President, I want to give you this challenge coin. I get it.

[John C. Dvorak]

He doesn't have to display them.

[Adam Curry]

Well, don't you display yours?

[John C. Dvorak]

I have them in a. I have a lot of them.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I display mine proudly. I got some really cool ones.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I got some cool ones too.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you. Michael Miller. Walter Backs is in London, that's in Ontario, in Scandinavia. Now he sent us $1,000 Canadian which sadly comes out to $716.46. However we do honor the dollarettes and the dollary dues. He's a first time donator and every time I hear the Order of the Heart jingle it tugs at my heartstrings. I hope you'll honor my 1000 Canadian dollars as it will be my honor to be Sir Walter Back's Order of the Heart. Thanks for Red Knight Order of the Heart. Thanks for all you do. Yes, I think that is approved in advance and we'll also give you a deduce.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've been de douched. Yes, we obviously are going to go for that. We had another guy which are coming up later who said it's $300 in Canadian dollars. Literally cash.

[Adam Curry]

Oh wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

The new plastic money.

[Adam Curry]

Can we even swap that? Can we even get that out?

[John C. Dvorak]

I have to go to an exchange or something. I'm not sure where I'm gonna. Because our bank that we use used to do it but they stopped.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we'll figure it out.

[John C. Dvorak]

361 Black sheep in Johnson City, Tennessee. 34163 this donation is reflective of my father's birthday. 51451 he passed away while I was in Kuwait. I was coming home for his service but then we were evacuated due to ongoing tensions. My prayer which was answered I believe was for him to accept Jesus Christ late in his cancer battle with the help of a pastor. He did his last act, according to his wife, was to reach up at 3 o' clock ish in the morning. Then he expired. My hope and prayer is that he found it. I and so many others have found salvation prayers for you both. This donation is a switcheroo in honor of Claude Kitchen Van Jr, retired Navy Air traffic controller. Give him some I'm going to give you the whole load and some karma of your choice, Adam. God bless. Sir E61 Black Sheep. I'm going to give you the whole load today.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

You've got karma

[Adam Curry]

and we go to London in the uk. Sir Luke Rayner, well known Adam and John. It's been 15 years since my first donation and with this $346 I finally become a Duke. When I was knighted in 2014, I joked I'd one day be Sir Luke the Duke. And here we are. Thank you Adam and John for all the laughs of media deconstruction. It was great to meet you both at the London meetups. No coffee or honey to promote but I do have a cycling event this Sunday. It's a long shot but. But if any producers fancy fancy joining me and 200 mammals, middle aged men in Lycra for a ride through the Hertz and the Bucks. That's Hertfordshire and Buckinghamshire in the countryside. Head to sportiveuk.co.uk sportiveuk.co.uk and use code ITM for 10% off my new title, Sir Luke Rayner, Duke of London and the South East. Karma for all you've got.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dennis Cato's up. He's in Tampa, Florida. 33333 itm. Gentlemen. Well, pain certainly seems topical. Well, pain seems certainly topical. We've had such an uptick in sales from listeners. Ah Catl the Show using the Atom 20 code at [e-mail] that we had to turn turn game night. Wait, turn game night.

[Adam Curry]

Game night. Game night.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, gay. Turn gay. Okay. Turn game night into a game of shipping and handling. You missed the Knicks game. We are really having to bring the whole family into the family business nowadays. As always, we appreciate all the positive feedback we have received from you gentlemen and all the listeners of no Agenda. On top of the 20% off with the code, we'll be continuing our giveaway of a travel size jar of our pain relief gel on all orders over $49 through Father's Day. For those of you interested in the arnica relief gel instead, just leave a note at checkout. It's particularly excellent for bruise care as I can. I'd like to see how that works. Bruise cares I can personally attest out of my trip to over Memorial Day weekend I didn't plan on our Manuka dog saw a squirrel. What was it doing on your chest? As always, thank you for your courage. We've honored this we're honored to support the show the Manuka Gold family. Dennis Cato, Tampa, Florida thank you very much, Dennis.

[Adam Curry]

Dame Lisa, Foxborough, Massachusetts with the favorite 333.33 sent in a note and says Adam and John, I'm closing in my annual donation. The show is worth 10 times this but I hope it helps with your donation drought and keeps Jon off the ledge for a few more weeks. Yes, we all want to keep John off the ledge. John, congrats on your recovery from the hey, I'm still awake bypass surgery. Quite impressive. And kudos to Adam who seamlessly and professionally kept the show going with Mimi. I enjoyed her stories and getting insight into the Dvorak marriage. I'm wondering if either of you listen to Promethean action podcasts and if so, what are your thoughts? Yes, I, I we clip it. We clip it. We do. We like it a lot. I like those ladies. I don't want to risk a bit

[John C. Dvorak]

much, but they're, you know, I like those ladies.

[Adam Curry]

I like those ladies. It's three times a week, 15 minutes. It's not that bad. It's the long like they do a

[John C. Dvorak]

show on Frank of quite frankly is a big fan of their they do

[Adam Curry]

a long like live show on Thursdays. Oh, that's tough to get through. But I do like the short 15 minutes. I don't want to risk John's wrath with a long note. So no jingles, only baby making karma for my daughter as from Dame Lisa of Amic Lake in Foxborough, Massachusetts.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

You've got.

[Adam Curry]

Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Damien Calorin in Venice, Florida. And look at this. He sent in a note. Two notes in a row in the morning. Crackpot. And buzzkill is another long note, I might add. Today's got a lot of notes that are really too long. First time donor, please de douche me. You've been de douched. And then he's gonna want boogity boogity and jobs. Karma for all was hit in the mouth in 2020 when Adam was on Rogan. I listened to all the Mofax. Although I never got a biscuit on my birthday.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.

[John C. Dvorak]

There it is. Now I listen to the most podcasts while I am doing yard work. But I save no agenda for when I'm at work. Hey, what are you doing? Nothing.

[Adam Curry]

Working.

[John C. Dvorak]

My smoking hot wife and I second generation family business in Venice, Florida called Scarlet Macaw Resort Wear. This November will mark our 33rd year in business. 33 is the magic number. We listen to the show together while I unpack boxes and she paints the unique clothing our store is known for. You know, a nice Hawaiian shirt would be handy. We also put our six soon to be seven year old human resources sources to work too because as we know, a family that no agendas together stays together. It's called child labor and it works like a champ. Speaking of the hand painted clothing, we'd like to offer no Agenda's audience a 10% discount on any purchase from our website scarletmacawenace.com.

[Adam Curry]

oh, I'm looking at it right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

How's it look?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's for chicks, but it's nice.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's for chicks.

[Adam Curry]

For chicks man. It's for chicks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Please use code no agenda 10. On our way. Giving back to the community each month is by donating 10% of the sale price of any item featuring dogs and cats to our local humane society. Well, items featuring marine life result in donations to Moat Marine Mote Marine. Listening to the best podcast in universe has been invaluable beyond measure. And I'll try to hit people in the mouth whenever I can and like to call out Kyle in Indiana as a douchebag. Douchebag. And here's the shrinking amygdala us for four more years. Damien,

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

You've got karma

[Adam Curry]

and believe it or not, another note with 300 attached to it from Bob Stanhope in Great Forks, British Columbia. And so that's Canadian dollary dues.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it is the cash.

[Adam Curry]

Good morning from Grand Forks, B.C. canada. Men, the pilgrimage to knighthood continues. You may recall having trouble cashing my checks a few weeks ago. Working on the premise you never were able to cash it as it never cleared on my end. Is that true? We never cleared it. Never, never cashed it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh that check. Yeah, yeah. Here's the problem with that. I should have sent a big back to them. I have it sitting on the, on the, on the. In a spot where I was going to do that. The. So here's the problem with Canadian checks. I've always said, yeah, send Canadian checks.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So our bank which uses, used to use a very. The banks are like microservices architecture nowadays.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, true.

[John C. Dvorak]

So they have like. Oh yeah, we have a Service provider. They won't cash Canadian checks. They. We used to have a different one that did. Now the new guy won't. Were they going to change that? Because it's inconvenient for us businessmen. We're trying to find a new provider. Okay, well how about.

[Adam Curry]

How about this? Just use Bitcoin, man. Use the bitcoin. Get yourself some 300 Canadian dollar a dues in Bitcoin and use the Bitcoin QR code.

[John C. Dvorak]

He did the right thing. He sent some. Well, again, it's plastic.

[Adam Curry]

Plastic money. We'll see, we'll see.

[John C. Dvorak]

Plastic. And it's really plasticky.

[Adam Curry]

So I'm enclosing 300 Canadian dollaroos. Let's hope the bank will accept it. Keep up the good work, keep the faith and most importantly, stay dangerous. No jingles, no karma. Two wheeled love. Bob Stanhope, a guy who rides bikes in the boundary.

[John C. Dvorak]

First Ukrainian meetup comes in with $220 or $230.71 please de douche, the former mink fart farmer, now dude named Ben.

[Adam Curry]

You've been de douched. Yes, I have a report from them.

[John C. Dvorak]

US$5,788 from the former mink farmer, now a dude named Ben. Please deduce US$173.03 from the rest of the people present. Yes, thank you for your courage.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I have a written meetup report and they're going to do an audio one I think is forthcoming. Thank you very much. There were people there.

[John C. Dvorak]

We good.

[Adam Curry]

We had people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hello Ukraine.

[Adam Curry]

Hello Ukraine. Gotta say Ukraine. Sky Kilbury, Ukraine, you. Sky Kilbury's in Belfair, Washington. Sends $210.60 and says please credit Sky's window cleaning on Hood Canal. I offer a no agenda producer discount. God bless no agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Craig Homer in San Anger. I like the Homer better.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but it's Horner.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, Horner in San Angelo, Texas. 200 bucks. ITM related donation in memory of Scott Adams. He helped me think about things in new ways, just like you guys. Adam, I love your spirit, good humor and wit. John, you need to be less of a grouch.

[Adam Curry]

Whoa. Slam.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey yo butts.

[Adam Curry]

Slam. And there she is, Linda Lapatkin. She comes in from Lakewood, Colorado with $200 Associate Executive Producer again for her, she just wants jobs, karma. And as always, she reminds you that your Resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't. For a resume that gets results go to ImageMakers Inc.com Linda helps professionals and executives position their experience so hiring managers will see their value. That's Imagemakers Inc. With a K. And Linda Liu, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is interesting. Sky's Window Cleaners in Hood Canal, Washington. Which is this sky run by Sky. Sky, who's in Belfair wherever. Please credit Sky's Window cleaning on Hood Canal. I offer no Agenda producers a discount. Discount Karma, please. God bless. No agenda. $200. We're going to combine these two and move him up to executive producer where he belongs.

[Adam Curry]

That's absolutely true. Thank you very much.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

You've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

And we thank these executive and associate executive producers for their wonderful contributions. As always, $200 and above. Not only do we read your note, we'd love them to be a little bit shorter. We also give you the Hollywood credit of associate executive producer. Valid wherever Hollywood credits are recognized, including link your social media profile and most importantly, IMDb.com and $300 or more. We'll also read you a note and you get an executive producer credit. Valid anywhere. You can put it, even on your business cards. Hey baby. I'm a producer of what the no Agenda show. Oh, wow. So thank you to you and enjoy your credits and thank you for your courage.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our formula is this.

[Adam Curry]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth. We always thank everybody. $50 or above. Here's the rest of our list. Christopher ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina. 105. 35. Jill jaunty in Omaha, Nebraska. 90. Loni Salas in Gold Hill, Oregon. 88. 88. Thank you very much. Kevin McLaughlin. He is the Archduke of Luna, Love of America and boobs. Concord, Carolina. The $80.08 he says. God bless America and melons. Brian McIntyre, Richboro, Pennsylvania. 75. He says. This is a get off my lawn donation. Big Six 8. Henderson, Nevada from Big Six 8. You guys rock. Thank you. Patricia Lombardo in Collegeville, Pennsylvania. $65.00. Hey John. I played with mercury as a kid too. I used to break the thermometer to get at the stuff. Then when anyone in the house got sick, my mom could never find one to take temperature. Well, that sounds like strange. We always wanted our mom to take our temperature and we rub it under rubber wherever we could to make it go up so that you could stay home. Steven Shoemake, Xenia, Ohio $64.80 Bad idea. Supply $50.50 at the 50 50. Dame Rita Sparks, Nevada thank you Dame Rita. $50.33. And here are the 50s we say thank you to Stefan Truckles from Seuss in Deutschland. Roderick Brown in Mermaid. Prince Edward Island, Canada. Stephen Shoemake again from Xenia, Ohio. It's interesting. No, wait. Stephen Shoemaker. No Shoemaker. Is it the same guy? Is a different guy? I don't understand.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, it's the same guy. Ben would the shoemaker K When it's in that gray, that means it was a check. And I think that was just mistyped.

[Adam Curry]

Tim Del Vecchio, Blandon, Pennsylvania. Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, Calif. Winding out the list of 50s. Jason D' Aluzio from Miami Beach, Florida. Thank you all so much. It is highly appreciated for you supporting us. Anybody can go to noagendadonations.com and make a donation. Any amount. It's completely, completely up to you. Whatever value you get out of the show. That's all we ask you to send back to us. Noagendadonations.com set up a recurring donation. Any amount, any [e-mail]. Ah, now we finally have a list. Sir E61 Black Sheep has happy birthday or wishes his late father a belated happy birthday. He would be celebrating on May 14th. Craig Horner. Happy birthday to Scott Adams. Another belated birthday as pass he would have celebrated on June 8th. Dame Susan of the soldner wheel. Happy birthday to her son Elliot. He celebrated on the 9th. And look whose birthday it is today. Producer to the hit movies Dana Brunetti celebrates his birthday June 11th. We say happy birthday from everybody here. The best podcast in the universe. That's right. Sir Luke Rayner now becomes Sir Luke Rayner, Duke of London and the southeast. He is Duke Lucas, what I'm going to call him. Congratulations, Duke Luke. Thank you very much for supporting the no agenda show and the amount of $1,000 or more extra money. We love it. We have two knights, two of whom will become the coveted Red Knights. The Order of the Heart. Behold the Order of the Heart. Heart pure of purpose right from the start. The Order of the Heart. Yes. So we have the soon to be knighted Sir Tin Lee Hungwell. That's John Michael Miller and Walter Backs. All three of you will receive the coveted Red Knight Order of the Heart. Pins. Go to noahjunderings.com and make sure you let us know where to send it to it send it to you because you deserve this. As members of the Order of the Heart. Behold the order of the Heart. Pure of purpose, right from the stars in the morning, brave and smart. The Order of the Heart. Now. All right. Now we Gotta get two of these guys up here on the podium. So if you could bring out your blade, John, that would be.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, here you go.

[Adam Curry]

A little enthusiasm is always welcome. Oh, wait, another one. Nice, John. And Walter backs. Both of you head up here on the podium. Thanks to your support of the no Agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or more. Yes, we actually do count the dollar each dues as well. That's just the kind of guys we are. I'm very proud to pronounce the cape B as Sir Kin Lee Hungwell, Red Knight of the Rocket City and Sir Walter Back's Order of the Heart. Another red Knight for you. We've got hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay. We've got 800 tomahawk ribeyes. We've got ginger ale and gerbils. We've got breast milk of Pablo. And of course we have the mutton and the mead always here at the round table. For. For you, go to noagendarings.com let us know what ring size you'd like. There's a ring sizing guide on the website. And also just tell us where to send it and we'll get that off to you as soon as possible. Thank you both very much for supporting us and to our brand new Red Knights in the Order of the Heart. All right, we don't have any audio meetup reports, but I did get a written report, soon to be followed up, I hope with something in audio. But it was indeed the first Ukrainian meetup that was held on the June 6th at Fat Moose Bila Tver, Kiev Oblast, Ukraine. Successful meeting assembly. One Dutch douchebag, birthday boy, dude named Ben. One Ukrainian master healer of animals, plus spouse. One Dutch wizard of machinery, plants and concrete. Concrete spouse and human resource. One deputy director and right hand of the cow whisperer, married to one guru of cost, prices and liquidity.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

They had steaks, cold charcuterie, young potatoes, grilled vegetables, cake, beer, brandy, gin, tonic and coffee. So he says that progress report. Ukrainian economy supported, mouths hit, formula propagated, donations collected, air raid audible, mood joyful, wonderful human resource, strong dislike for pickles detected and loudly expressed. And there's a lot more. They had a lot going on here, so send us that audio report. We look forward to hearing from you. And thanks again for being our very first Ukrainian meetup. I don't know many other podcasts who can say that they've had a meetup in Ukraine. Just saying. Now, if you want to go to one in Boise, Idaho on Saturday, the Treasure Valley, Boise meetup meets at 3:00 clock at Green Green Acres Food Truck Park. Also on Saturday, the Franklin Slices and Sips meet up at 6 o' clock at Salvo's Pizza in Franklin, Tennessee. On Sunday, our next show day, the Happy Indy June Flag Day meet up at 3 o' clock at Blind Owl Brewery. It's the big one in Indianapolis, Indiana. The rest of this month we have the 18th, Charlotte, North Carolina, the 20th, Los Angeles, California, Rotterdam, the Netherlands on the 26th, Fort Wayne, Indiana on 27th along with Albany, California. Now you know about the Albany, California. Your meetup now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, on the 27th. And you're going as far as I

[Adam Curry]

can tell, 28th, Longview, Texas. And then we're into July. Nothing on the fourth, of course, but all the way through to October. You can find all of these meetups [e-mail] go there to find out exactly where one is going to be held near you. They are all around the world and if there isn't one in your country, your burg, your city, your town, start one yourself. It's very easy. Noagendameetups.com Easy to do and always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days you want to be where you won't be triggered or held as flame. You want to be. And remember, connection. Connection gives you protection. The people you meet there will be your responders, your first responders in any emergency. We have John's tip of the day coming up. Some very loud and raucous end of show mixes with a dynamite jingle at the very end. But first, time to listen to the ISOs. And I have two. You have two. You sent them as bonus clips, which is not really true. They were ISOs. It wasn't bonus, but I got them and I will play mine first.

[John C. Dvorak]

So proud of what you're doing. Keep it up, man.

[Adam Curry]

Let me try this next one.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

This is above and beyond anything kind of like that.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, what do you have?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I got, I have two, as you mentioned. I couldn't get any more celebrities. My tokens all ran out. You burned your tokens going on too?

[Adam Curry]

Were the tokens.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, with these, with these websites. There's a bunch of these celebrity voice, you know, AI websites and they're, they're all run. But did you tell. They're all fronts for the same operation.

[Adam Curry]

Well done.

[John C. Dvorak]

You go to this one, it looks the same as that one. And then you go to that one and looks the same as the other. 1. And they're all the same. They get the same voices and then they get the same. Oh, join with your Google account. So you do that.

[Adam Curry]

You get the exact same screens and you bought tokens.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I bought nothing. Those are all the stuff you get free.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. Okay. So what do you got?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, let's start with geniuses.

[Adam Curry]

These two geniuses nailed it again. Wow. She went to British at the end there. These two geniuses nailed it again. Interesting. Yeah. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're like British. Tried this good.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Why can't more podcasts be this good?

[Adam Curry]

Let's just try that again. Let me listen to that again.

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

Why can't more podcasts be this good?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think we should take that one. That's pretty good. It's better than the ones I have. But before we take anything, it's time for John's tip of the day. And sometimes Adam.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, going back to the well here with the only tips that anyone really likes. Costco wine.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, we always pine for the Costco wine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, here's a $7.99. $7.96. That's what I paid. It could be varied by a buck or two here and there. And this is just a stunner. It's a low alcohol summer wine. We're entering summer, so it's about time we started drinking this stuff. It's the Kirkland signature Moscato Dasti. Now, Moscato d' Asti is an area of Italy that makes this sweet, low alcohol, slightly spritzy. Should be spritzy.

[Adam Curry]

Spritzy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, spritzy. A slightly spritzy wine. That is so good. And I just say right off, I've. I've had a problem. Probably 20 examples of this product from different vendors. They're all terrific. I've never had a bad one. I don't know if they can make a bad one. It's just one of those fallen off a log wines. And this stuff is so tasty that on a hot afternoon, chilled, it's a stunner. Now, does it come in 6%, 5%, 6% alcohol?

[Adam Curry]

Does it come in flavors?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it says it must. Muscat grape.

[Adam Curry]

So what kind of flavor is that?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a Muscat.

[Adam Curry]

I know, but is it sweet? Is it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's a sweet wine. It's a sweet spritzy. I don't really refreshing.

[Adam Curry]

So it has dynamite as carbonation in it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's always had carbonation.

[Adam Curry]

A little bit spritzy, so. But not like, like.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, not like champagne.

[Adam Curry]

No. Okay, so it's a. It's a wine cooler is what you're saying.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's beyond a wine. Any wine cooler you think you. You've had.

[Adam Curry]

What was, what was the name. Name of that? It was really popular for a while. And the. The college girls farm. No, no, no, no. We call them. Ah. What was the name of that? It was like a spritzer drink and all the girls were drinking it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the girls love this stuff.

[Adam Curry]

I'm trying to think what that was called, though. It was.

[John C. Dvorak]

Come on, chat room, help him out.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know what he's talking about. They know they're no good. They're no good. It was. It was really popular in, in Europe too. Zima. No, not Zima. It was something else.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, Zima.

[Adam Curry]

Terrible. Z. Zema was something with a B. It was something with a B. Breezer. That's what it was. Breezer. I. I remembered by myself. Breezer. Well, that's not a Breezer. It's a tip of the day. Tipoftheday. Net for all of them. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip and sometimes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam.

[Adam Curry]

Created by Dana Burnetti. That's right, created by Danny Brunetti. The birthday boy. He's probably. How old is he? 59.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think he's 28.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, a reminder, coming up next, just keep listening live in your modern podcast app [e-mail] we have the Battle of the Douchebag, Season 2, Episode 8 with Sir Seatsitter and a cast of thousands. It is live. Live. Live, baby. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Thousands of nitro burning funny cars. The battle of the douchebags. Be on the lookout for that. And end of show mixes come from just Baker, MVP and John Bollard and his little fun jingle at the end, which will be a real ear worm like you've never heard of it before. And we will return on Sunday to bring you more of your media deconstruction. The war will be over. Oil will drop like a rock. Gas will be cheap. Everyone's going to be happy. Just in time for the fourth of July. And I will be coming to you once again from the heart of the Texas hill country here in Fredericksburg, Texas in the morning, everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm Adam Curry and from the refinery row where the FIFA is on is the talk of the town. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

Remember us atnoen Agenda donations.com until Sunday. Adios mo fos a whoi hooey and such. Iran and Israel on repeat. Ukraine reruns every week AI headlines everywhere I'm bored enough to rip out my air the cycle's stale to take, suck

[Various Correspondents/Guests]

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[Adam Curry]

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[Various Correspondents/Guests]

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[Adam Curry]

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[Various Correspondents/Guests]

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[Adam Curry]

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[Various Correspondents/Guests]

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[Adam Curry]

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[Various Correspondents/Guests]

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[Adam Curry]

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[John C. Dvorak]

The best podcast in the universe.

[Adam Curry]

Dvorak.org Na why can't more podcasts be this good?