1878 - "Dream Build Loop"

Summary

No Agenda Show: Episode 1878 – "Dream Build Loop"

Date: June 18, 2026
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak embark on their signature "media assassination" of current events, deconstructing the week's major news narratives with a heavy dose of skepticism, humor, and media critique. The topics covered include overseas perspectives on America, UK societal issues, the controversial new US–Iran peace deal, the landscape of AI and tech's real contribution to the US GDP, and cultural trends in the US—spanning voter fraud, pharmaceutical advertising, and the omnipresence of "institutional pressure" in modern TV content.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. International Perceptions: America Through Foreign Eyes

• Adam shares his delight at videos from European, Australian, and Japanese tourists marveling at everyday American life—school buses, food, friendliness, and patriotism.
• [02:19] Adam Curry: “...all of Europe, of course we’ve had the same programming, have been brainwashed into thinking all we are is just one big bunch of racist crazy people...now people are like, wow, we really love your food.”
• John questions the authenticity, wonders if some are FIFA marketing stunts.
• They discuss US culture's “movie” image abroad: big houses, fire hydrants, gun culture, and trucks.
• Ongoing themes of European assumptions that Americans are “fat, lazy, shooting at each other with a dictator running the whole show.”

2. The UK’s Socioeconomic and Cultural Troubles

• Focus on the recent report of grooming gangs in the UK and the nation’s “broke” status.
  • [08:00] Clip reveals that if the UK were a US state, it’d be 51st in GDP per capita.
  • John confirms via research: UK per capita GDP = $52,000 vs. Mississippi’s $55,000 (“the worst” in the US).
• Flag culture and national pride: UK’s flag taboo versus US patriotism.
• Immigration, assimilation, and social unrest: Critique of the UK/NPR’s refusal to discuss root causes of riots, blaming Elon Musk and “replacement theory.”
  • [12:01] John C. Dvorak: “He’s a natural born troublemaker who is a UK patriot.”
  • Adam critiques the media's narrative manipulation, mocking NPR and On The Media’s “roadmap to mayhem” blaming social media for real-world violence.
  • Discussion of the "Replacement Migration" UN document; Adam says it's being executed as real policy, not conspiracy.
• UK’s digital ID rollout and social media bans under the guise of "protecting children."
  • [24:57] Clip of PM Keir Starmer banning under-16s from social media.

3. The US–Iran “Peace Deal”: Media Reaction, Realpolitik & Criticism

• Trump’s deal seen as a re-work of Obama’s, criticized as being “identical” behind new branding (MOU vs. JCPOA).
• Skepticism toward media reaction: speculating on the true enforceability, real terms (“do it, or we bomb you”), funding, and winners/losers (especially Israel and Iran).
  • [29:07] John C. Dvorak: “They used the same words.”
  • Media agrees Iran is "the winner,” while Israel feels “betrayed.”
• Vance’s media blitz: making the case that the deal is fundamentally different because US has “destroyed” Iran's nuclear program and threatens massive force if violated.
• Oil prices drop, talk of a looming oil glut and the geopolitical implications.
• [39:44] Adam Curry: “And the $300 billion [for Iran] is coming from the Gulf states...mostly in terms of investment.”
• Discussion about Israel’s dissatisfaction and Trump’s criticism of Netanyahu (“not happy with their handling of Lebanon and Hezbollah”).
  • [48:49] CBC and Al Jazeera clips present region’s frustration with the deal and highlight Israel’s isolation.
• Satirical rundown of confusion and disorganization among politicians and media about the deal's details, enforceability, and long-term impact.

4. AI, Tech, and the Real State of the American Economy

• Jeff Bezos’ “Dream Build Loop” concept: AI as tool for more human creativity, not redundancy.
  • [97:34] Jeff Bezos (clip): “AI is going to create a labor shortage because it’s going to make it possible for people to identify more problems.”
• Hosts debunk the myth that “Magnificent 7” tech companies (AI giants) drive US GDP — actual top companies by GDP include Amazon, Walmart, UnitedHealth, Apple, but AI “pure plays” are not major GDP contributors.
• Bernie Sanders’ proposed 50% stock tax on AI companies to fund a sovereign wealth fund for UBI: hosts mercilessly lampoon as “crank” proposal.
  • [107:46] John C. Dvorak: “Yeah, they do. No, they don’t. There’s a cutoff point...misogyny...stuff that ruins the LLM.”

5. Voter Fraud, California Politics, and Pharmaceutical Advertising

• Segment on “voter fraud marketing” in California: woman indicted for paying homeless people on Skid Row to register and sign petitions.
  • [79:37] John C. Dvorak: “It’s also an example of marketing...arbitrage.”
  • Ongoing skepticism about the efficacy of fraud prevention and media defense that “fraud rates are microscopic.”
• Newsom's DOJ investigation: hosts suggest where there’s smoke (and a lot of protest), there may be fire in the governor's household finances.
• Movement to ban direct-to-consumer pharma ads: Adam speculates it’s a stealth Trump move; John doubts any real action (“pharma money too powerful”).
• Robot trivia: Congressional action was required to ban tobacco ads, so pharma curbs would need the same.

6. Cultural Trends: Crisis in Dating, TV & “Institutional Pressure”

• Mailbag reveals some listeners skip the "Whatever Girls" dating segments; Adam and John analyze why — linking it to broader dating malaise and frustrations among men.
• Adam complains about a surge of “gratuitous gay guy kissing” in TV series, confirmed by their AI assistant as “institutional pressure” to meet GLAAD's standards, not true storytelling.
  • [116:41] AI Book of Knowledge (paraphrased): “...less an organic necessity and more institutional pressure.”

7. Miscellaneous: Earthquake Warnings, Dog Kennels, and Small-Town Riches

• Southern California earthquake build-up: John predicts “in the next 50 years!”
• Humorous aside on Texas dog kennel economics and the “Darren O’Neal deal” — the virtue of having a wife who brings in the money (and only cooks ten times in thirty years).

8. Signature NO AGENDA Segments

• Value for Value explainer: No ads, no meetings, just listener support.
• Producer Credits & Donations
• Birthday & Peerage shoutouts: Two new NO AGENDA Knights welcomed.
• John’s Tip of the Day: "Probiotic fiber gummies" for boomer gut health—delivered with mock exasperation.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [02:19] Adam Curry: "All we are is just one big bunch of racist crazy people who are fat shooting at us."
• [08:49] John C. Dvorak: “UK’s per capita GDP is terrible. Compared to us.”
• [14:10] John C. Dvorak: "They have moved from an actual problem that they won’t report on to blaming it on Elon Musk and his posts. I don’t know. It’s just like, this is very pathetic."
• [39:44] Adam Curry: "And the $300 billion is coming from the Gulf states… mostly in terms of investment."
• [48:49] CBC summary: "With Iran’s leadership emboldened, the alliance between the United States and Israel is being tested…"
• [97:34] Jeff Bezos: “AI is going to create a labor shortage because it’s going to make it possible for people to identify more problems.”
• [129:21] John C. Dvorak: “[Producer Letter:] The only segments I have ever skipped are the Whatever girls...I’m just going to keep skipping that section.”
• [116:41] Book of Knowledge AI: “...it’s less an organic necessity and more institutional pressure.”
• [162:17] John’s Tip of the Day: “Totaria nine-in-one probiotic fiber gummies… improve your poops.”

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Memorable Timestamps

• [00:58] “Quad screen Obama” – riffing on media’s Obama fixation.
• [02:00-07:00] Adam and John’s debate over foreign tourist videos and stereotypes about America.
• [08:00-09:00] Per capita GDP per state vs. UK—“51st out of 50” insight.
• [10:55-19:00] NPR and Wired narrative critique: Musk blamed for UK riots; “replacement migration” debate.
• [24:57] UK’s digital ID and under-16 social media ban—Keir Starmer’s announcement.
• [28:14-38:02] US–Iran peace deal media montage: confusion, critique, and who really gains.
• [48:49-54:33] CBC and Fox explain shifting Mideast alliances and what’s really different between JCPOA and the new deal.
• [69:50-71:42] Byron Allen business breakdown: Late-night TV, infomercials, and network economics.
• [76:07] Pharma ad ban debate and robot trivia challenge.
• [78:15-84:17] Voter fraud exposé in LA; “marketing angle” explored.
• [116:41] AI Book of Knowledge on gay kissing in TV: “institutional pressure.”
• [162:08] John’s tip: “Totaria probiotic fiber gummies” for gut health.

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Flow, Tone & Style

• Spirited banter, sharp skepticism, and layered deconstruction of media narratives.
• Adam is characteristically upbeat and incredulous at the absurdity of media cycles; John is more cynical, sometimes deadpan.
• Satirical undertones throughout, especially regarding the “crank” status of certain politicians and “institutional pressure” in modern culture.
• Frequent playful interruptions, sidetracks, and engagement with listeners’ letters and live chat.
• Original language and tone preserved (“No, they don’t. There’s a cutoff point...misogyny...stuff that ruins the LLM.”)

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For Further Exploration

Listeners seeking details about the US–Iran deal, UK’s social unrest and economic woes, the real economic impact of AI, or the inner workings of “value for value” podcasting will find this episode especially insightful—and no less entertaining for its blend of hard facts and high sarcasm.

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Transcript

[John C. Dvorak]

You know this guy is a crank.

[Adam Curry]

Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, June 18, 2026. This is your award winning Kibble Nation media assassination episode 1878. This is no Agenda. We're all raving about ranch. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And from Refinery Row where we're all concerned about the big report of the rapists in the uk I'm John Cedar. Gorak.

[Adam Curry]

It's crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning. The rapist from the uk. I don't even want to know. Are they here?

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you see the report?

[Adam Curry]

No. Depends. I mean, there's a lot of reports in the world. What reports?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, It's a big 250 page report on the grooming gangs and the 250,000 girls raped.

[Adam Curry]

Did we need a report?

[John C. Dvorak]

Apparently the Brits did.

[Adam Curry]

Did we really need a report? Oh, by the way, quad scre screen Obama, wall to wall Obama opening up the presidential center. It's not a library. Apparently it's a center. Oh, well, it's good to see him back.

[John C. Dvorak]

Talking about the tower.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the tower. So I just want to start with something really nice. Ooh, ooh. I spent a couple hours, which is, as we discussed before we started the show, is two couple hours just enjoying all of the videos on X and subsequently on YouTube. That's all I really have. I don't have Instagram or anything else of tourists, mainly Europeans, but some Australians and Japanese who have discovered that America is awesome. Have you seen any of these?

[John C. Dvorak]

I've seen all of them. You don't think they're staged?

[Adam Curry]

No. No.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't think they were put together by the FIFA people to get more people to come over to these soccer matches?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, okay, sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm just asking if you don't

[Adam Curry]

think that I said no. And then you asked the question again, so the answer is no.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no, I re asked it in a different manner.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, These stadiums of 70,000 people are full. It's not like people aren't going to the games. But no. How is this about FIFA? It's people enjoying our hospitality. How friendly people are that people say hello, they're loving. They cannot believe that the school buses in America are actually yellow school buses. It's like the way I see it, all of Europe, of course we've had the same programming, have been brainwashed into thinking all we are is just one big bunch of racist crazy people. Who are fat shooting at us.

[John C. Dvorak]

Each other.

[Adam Curry]

Fat and lazy. Shooting at each other with a dictator running the whole show. And now, of course, you know, people are like, wow, we really love your fast food or your food in general. Chicken fried steak, waffles, pancakes. I mean, they have pancakes, but, you know, pancakes with chicken, waffles with chicken. You know, people only know us from the movie if you've never been to America and you only see America through the lens of the movies and television shows and Grand Theft Auto. You know, I think people are amazed that on one hand they feel like they're living in the movie because, yeah, the houses really look like that big obsession with our fire hydrants. This is fascinating. People just loving the fire hydrants.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, well, I'm glad you're getting a kick out of it. Well, I like the guys roaming around at midnight saying, hey, I'm not getting mugged.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's the South African guy. Yeah. And it wasn't even at midnight. It was. It was during the day. Like, look, women are walking through the park.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, there was a guy at midnight roaming around.

[Adam Curry]

Same guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, okay.

[Adam Curry]

At a truck stop. And of course, you know, this is different if you go to New York City or you're in downtown Los Angeles.

[John C. Dvorak]

How about Oakland? Take him down to dinner now. Boulevard.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I think this has changed attitudes. I think it's changed American attitudes. People are like, yeah, we kind of take it for granted that we have Costco and Walmart and Buc EE's, but also we have small diners and we have dive bars and ice houses and cowboy ranches. I think the people who came to Texas who went really outside of. Even people who went to Fort Worth, which is touristy, but went a little bit further. No, people are exploring and they're really loving our country and I like it. And they're saying, hey, you guys are patriotic. You got flags everywhere. We're not even allowed to put up flags in our country. You've got prayer on the bottom of your cups. No, I'm not so cynical as you. I think it's great. I think it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've been to Sweden. Every other house has got a flag 247 all day of the year. They're flag nuts.

[Adam Curry]

I was talking about the UK specifically.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, the uk. Well, they can't put a flag because it's illegal. It's hate speech.

[Adam Curry]

Exactly, exactly. You got people going to gun ranges, holding a gun for the first time in their life. And like. Well, that wasn't. That's. You know, they're really. They're shaking like, I'm gonna shoot this gun. I'm shoot this guy. And then after they shot the gun, like, I want to shoot that some more. So I know they love our cars. They love the Dodge Charger. They love our trucks. And the amount of people who are so surprised that the yellow school buses are actually yellow school buses, they're joyous. I find it interesting, fascinating, and also endearing. And I'm proud to be an American, and I'm happy that people are here. There was no setup for this. FIFA did no marketing. You know why no one did any marketing? Because it was Trump's deal. So the media didn't talk about it. You know, just Trump. FIFA, not talk about reports about it. There's no FIFA fever. Turns out people love it. People love coming here.

[John C. Dvorak]

They always have. It's been a tourist attraction forever.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I just don't find it to be. It's something fishy about it. I'm sorry. I'm glad you enjoy it. I'm glad you like it. I'm glad you. You're happy. Nobody puts flags up around here.

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, you're in California. What do you expect?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, I don't hear anybody.

[Adam Curry]

That's why you're so grouchy about it. You live in the work, possibly the worst state now, the worst area in the country, where everyone's just grouchy and. And sour and upset and not happy. You know, you're an ex. You're an exception, but it's got to wear down on you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not really. Okay. I find it relaxing.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you're a different. I don't think you're the stereotypical American, nor do you live in a stereotypical American place. You just don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Anyway, so on the topic of. Since we're making these comparisons, I do want to play this crazy clip like that, which are.

[Adam Curry]

You've gone from screwball to crazy. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Duke Foley sent over. I said I should play that clip. This is the UK and this is the bonus clip. UK and GDP rank.

[Adam Curry]

We are poorer than every single US state. When voters were asked to guess where

[John C. Dvorak]

the UK would rank in terms of

[Adam Curry]

GDP per capita if it were a US state, gave, on average, the response of 7. The actual answer is 51st. Many people in Britain today do not fully grasp how far we have been fading. People, of course, have a general sense that our economy has not been growing strongly enough for some time. But too many tend to think we are still much richer than most of our peers. And the fact is we are not. We are poorer than every single U.S. state. Yeah. That's why people are coming here, that you guys are rich. Everything's big.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we always have been. But the. The interesting thing is that the. The. I looked it up. Come on. So I looked it up.

[Adam Curry]

I think it's probably.

[John C. Dvorak]

And in fact, the. The per capita gdp of the UK is $52,000. Mm. The worst state in the United States for. For per capita GDP is Mississippi at 55,000.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

And there's a number of states with 100, 110, 118, 108. I think it's California's 108.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's. You have 2% that make up for the rest, so. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now. Yeah. It's still. The fact is the UK's per capita GDP is terrible.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Compared to us.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And they have no money. They're broke. That's why the defense secretary, when I quit. We can't defend this country. I'm not going to take that on me. So I'm out of here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. He took somebody with him, too. I forgot who.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. So while we're on the uk,

[John C. Dvorak]

man

[Adam Curry]

on the media, npr. These people are. They are sick. Sick and crazy. So we've had these. We haven't. There's been the riots in Ireland, and of course, it's coming in Northern England and everything. It's all going to happen. There's mutiny, there's civil riots. And on the media. On the media decides to not discuss at all why people are rioting, but blame it all on Elon Musk.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is on the Media.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Brooke Gladstone. And I'm Michael Oinger. This week, Elon Musk took his company,

[John C. Dvorak]

SpaceX, public in an IPO billed as

[Adam Curry]

the largest in history.

[John C. Dvorak]

SpaceX is on track to become the

[Adam Curry]

most valuable company ever to go public and.

[John C. Dvorak]

And make its founder, Elon Musk, the first trillionaire. You'd think he'd have his hands full with that.

[Adam Curry]

But apparently Musk has also had time to write many, many, many racist posts. Many, many, many, many, many, many, many on X, some of which helped spark violent riots in the UK over the last couple of weeks.

[John C. Dvorak]

What? The events this week began on Monday

[Adam Curry]

when a Sudanese man was arrested and charged with attempted murder for stabbing a

[John C. Dvorak]

white man in Northern Ireland. The attack comes.

[Adam Curry]

Escalating test. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

This guy tried to chop the guy's head off and then gouged out his eyes.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. No, you're wrong, man. This is not the problem. And charged with Attempted murder for stabbing a white man in Northern Ireland. The attack comes amid escalating tension over immigration across Europe. A video of the gruesome incident immediately appeared on social media. And then Elon Musk writing on X this week, only by protesting repeatedly and loudly will there be any change. Ok, so the implication here from our friends at NPR is that, oh, the video was on social media, but it wasn't until Elon Musk started tweeting about it that everything kicked off. So Tommy, Tommy Robinson, you know who Tommy Robinson is?

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course.

[Adam Curry]

What would you call him if you had, you know, like he is a. Tommy Robinson is a fill in the blank.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a natural born troublemaker who is a UK patriot.

[Adam Curry]

Spurred in part by posts from a notorious conspiracy theorist. Tommy Robinson is the most prominent far right activist in the UK. So OnTheMedia calls him a conspiracy theorist because everything he's saying is made up. You see, there's no immigration problem, there's no rape going on, nothing like that. The guy's just filled with conspiracy theories. David Gilbert is a reporter at Wired covering disinformation and online extremism. When did Wired cover disinformation?

[John C. Dvorak]

And online now Wired is a big disinformation.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, I'm afraid I'm actually ashamed that I was on the COVID of Wired magazine with my face and an ipod. Now, back when it was something cool, it was like being on the COVID you know, if you're in fashion, on the COVID of Vanity Fair, I saw

[John C. Dvorak]

your face on the COVID of Wire Day. How come? Is that on the wall?

[Adam Curry]

It is. It's in the garage. That's where I hang all my stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now. He says he had a wall.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, in the garage.

[John C. Dvorak]

When did it go to the garage? I thought it was in the house.

[Adam Curry]

No, when we moved to this house five years ago, I said, I'm tired of all this crap in the house and I don't need these high school trophies. So I got rid of the trophies and then moved in.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I've always kept the trophies.

[Adam Curry]

And we've talked about this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you never talked about. I always knew about the wall. I never knew that you moved it to the garage or closet.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, and it's much more like, you know, where guys hang out in the garage. They got Ford signs on the wall. Valvoline, RC Cola. Yeah, that's. So I have a wall there. I'll take a picture of it, I'll post it. Extremism, he says things really heated up after Elon Musk reposted One of Robinson's videos. He has a huge amount of followers online, but what he's really expert at is inciting anger, stalking tensions, and making

[John C. Dvorak]

it seem as if the UK is

[Adam Curry]

under attack from minorities. Well, minorities notice how they move the goalposts on everything. It's under attack. No, it's under attack from immigrants who have got on a boat, came in, and your country said, oh, poor immigrants, let them stay here. Give them some money. Give them. Give them a hotel room. So Here is the 24 hour roadmap from Musk to mayhem. Give me the roadmap of how we went from a bystander video to violence in the streets of a bystander video. Can you believe this? They're calling that, that quasi beheading, eye gouging, throat stabbing, a bystander video. What is wrong with these people, huh? That's just. I'm flummoxed. Give me the roadmap of how we went from a bystander video. Violence in the streets of Belfast in just 24 hours. As you said, it was 10:30 at night in Belfast. Someone videoed us. We don't know who. They posted it online. Exactly one hour later, Tommy Robinson posted the video. That video got 6 million views. A few hours later, Elon Musk responded to Tommy Robinson and then spent the next 24 hours posting consistently about this case. Many major US accounts on X started amplifying the video when people woke up in the UK on Tuesday morning after the incident. By 7am people were posting about having protests in Belfast and other cities in Northern Ireland. Far right groups on Facebook started organizing. Then Elon Musk posted about the protest and said that this is enough. We have to take a stance. People have to push back against this. And by 7pm that evening, there were masked men on the street who were kicking indoors of migrants, setting fire to vehicles, terrorizing migrant communities across Belfast. I find this to be just amazing. They have moved from an actual problem that they won't report on to blaming it on Elon Musk and his posts. I don't know. It's just like, this is very pathetic. And they continue. Elon Musk wrote, murderous migrants beheading innocent people in their hometown is what's making people angry, not social media. He reposted messages claiming that British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, quote, hates white people. This is just like white supremacist. Great replacement theory, right? It has been repackaged recently under a term called re migration, which is something that has been bubbling up in Europe for a few Years and has been embraced by the Trump administration recently. Racist. This idea that white people are under attack and so therefore we need to kick everyone else out that doesn't look like us. So they pull it to racism continuously. So yes, it's they say replacement theory, which is a cover for the actual document that exists, which is replacement migration, United nations document. I read the documents, man, we've talked about it. You can find it on Bingit IO. It was a real plan and they're executing that plan. It's been going on for a quarter century. What are these people imagining would happen? Imagining they have a 30 year plan that would happen in three phases. The first phase would see the worst. The worst, what we're seeing in the US at the moment, where they're trying to deport people who are threat to society of criminal records and are there illegally. The second phase would see people who are in the country legally but are not citizens and who have not assimilated and are not white and they should be sent back to their countries as well. But what the third phase shows is what these people really want. They would look at citizens who do not assimilate to the Western cultures, traditions and religions. For example, if they are still practicing religions other than Christianity, if they're cooking foods that are not traditional foods in Germany or France or the UK or America, like Indian food, like bullshit we're gonna get.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've been to Britain. They eat Indian food like it's going out of style. In fact, takeout in the UK refers to Indian food, not Chinese. Like it does here.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, exactly. Now this is crazy. Then they would be kicked out.

[John C. Dvorak]

And who gets to decide what assimilation looks like?

[Adam Curry]

When I asked Martin Sellner, who was called the godfather of Re Migration at

[John C. Dvorak]

the conference in Portugal, get a time code.

[Adam Curry]

You like that one?

[John C. Dvorak]

I have to hear that again.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, you have a time code? You got a time code. Consider it done. Who exactly decides this? He couldn't really give me an answer. Let me go back to what actually

[John C. Dvorak]

started it, by the way, as you're doing this. Well, as you're doing this, I'm scrolling through the Elon Musk timeline.

[Adam Curry]

Very good.

[John C. Dvorak]

This bull crap is mostly Elon. Yeah, he mentions it now and again, but he's yakking about SpaceX and Grok. 90% of the time he's promoting stuff.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, ex. He's got other things to do to decide what assimilation looks like. When I asked Martin Sellner, who was called the godfather of Re Migration at the conference in Portugal, who exactly decides this he couldn't really give me an answer. Ultimately, it comes down to whoever's in power will decide. Say what?

[John C. Dvorak]

Elon Musk.

[Adam Curry]

Elon will decide. He's in charge of it all, apparently.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which will bring me to a clip, now that you mention it. Okay. From Pivot.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no. From Pivot.

[John C. Dvorak]

So, unfortunately, you can't. If you visualize, you could see it a little better, but I didn't realize on the Pivot show, this is a. Your buddies yakking about Elon. And Kara is just in the. As what's his name yaks on. She mumbles. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's terrible. Oh, she just keeps mumbling little bitty ditties under her breath the whole time.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, she's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Something's wrong with her.

[Adam Curry]

Let's listen, let's be clear. Elon Musk, in my view, can probably decide who the next president is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's correct.

[Adam Curry]

He spent $250 million. When will these people get over this idea that money wins elections? They were the same people who were like, Elon spent 100 million in Wisconsin and failed. He failed. And now they're like, you can determine the next president.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's be clear.

[Adam Curry]

Elon Musk, in my view, can probably decide who the next president is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's correct.

[Adam Curry]

He spent $250 million and had influence on the election. Maybe he didn't decide it. This guy spends more money than aipac. A lot more money than aipac. Why don't we run him out of the country? But he had influence on it.

[John C. Dvorak]

He thinks he does. What happens if he decides to put

[Adam Curry]

2.5% of his net worth, or 25 billion or 100 times what he spent? Well, he may just lose all that money. I think you would be happy. CNN will be happy. All the cable news would be happy. If he's going to spend that kind of money, people will take it with open arms. Bring your money, Elon. These people are nuts. Hey, you know remigration, Send Kara Swisher back to wherever she came from. And Professor Scott, too. This poor man, he actually.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's so self absorbed. It actually is kind of amusing to watch his body language.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, what do you mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he's just. You can see. You can see that he's full of himself. I mean, he's very overconfident.

[Adam Curry]

He's actually rich. He has millions of dollars. The guy's loaded. Exactly. Anyway, I want to go back to the uk, to Keir Starmer, because now we have this problem. We have this. It's Elon Musk. It's X, it's social media.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm surprised that they haven't put the slam, the door on social media. Probably shuttered all the social media companies except Blue sky, of course. You wouldn't want to shut them down.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they've now become a European initiative. But you're close because let's look at the sequence of things that happened. Everyone gets a digital id and that's now a thing. You know, it hasn't completely rolled out now, but everyone has to get a digital id. It was initially, oh, you can't work without a digital id. They rolled that back a little bit. But the digital ID is in essence being out, rolled out in the UK. So we would use the digital ID to make sure that you are 16 years or older in order to use social media. But that also means that we know who you are, we got your account, we've tied it to your digital id and all rolls out under the guise of protecting the children. Because today is a big moment for our country. This is a big step, real change for our children and our future. Because today I can announce that the government will ban access to social media for all children under the age of 16. This is not something I do lightly and I will not present it as cost free, as if social media has brought no benefits to young people, because clearly that is wrong. But government is always about choices and it's clear to me that a full ban is the right choice. I come to it as a parent myself. I know exactly the fears that we all feel when we're thinking about this issue. All I've ever wanted for my own children, hand on heart, is for them to be happy and for them to be safe. And I think that's what any parent wants. But I ask the question now, do we truly believe that social media creates a happy environment for our children? Do we truly believe that it's a place where they can feel safe? Safe? I don't think I even need to answer those questions, do I? Oh, okay, don't answer the question then. So I think this is under the guise of. Think of the children.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think they've also banned VPNs.

[Adam Curry]

No, I don't know about that. I only know about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

So they don't want people getting on these things.

[Adam Curry]

We need to talk about the deal, man. We need to talk about the deal. The mou. The deal. The big deal. The big, the big thing that's happening.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are you switching gears already? Well, I finished the UK Stuff.

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, I have uk what more is there to say? It sucks. And everyone who's from there, who's here loves it here.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is a lot of people. That's the story.

[Adam Curry]

Of course they do. That's the story right there.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's prettier.

[Adam Curry]

Let's see. Well, I, Yeah, actually, how about this? I can, I can ease us into it with a transition clip. Whatever the pressure on me and others, whatever the noise, I'm going to act in the British national interest, in all the decisions that I make. And that's why I've been absolutely clear that this is not our war, but we're not going to get dragged into it. UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer now singing a different tune, telling President Trump in a phone call yesterday he's quote, ready to support a U. S. Iran peace deal. Meanwhile, the Prime Minister receiving letters of resignation from both his defense secretary and armed forces minister over concerns the nation isn't properly defending itself. Former Trump State Department senior adviser Christian Whitten joins us now. Great to see you, Christian. So explain to us, what is the this about face from Keir Starmer all about? Well, Starmer's in crisis. He has been for some time. He won a resounding mandate two years ago. It's a five year mandate. But he's about to be ousted by his own party.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's an incredibly unpopular politician. Labour Party is now in the third place before Reform UK which is sort

[Adam Curry]

of a MAGA like party that came

[John C. Dvorak]

out of Brexit in the UK and the traditional Tories. One of his buddies in cabinet just bailed out.

[Adam Curry]

He's going to lose a by election this week in which the person likely to be elected wants to challenge him for the premiership. So amid this flailing, Starmer is looking for some sort of victory.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not sure what President Trump actually

[Adam Curry]

wants because Starmer is weak. He was not just failing to support the United States, this fundamentally important ally to Britain, but actually actively campaigned against Trump's decision. Yeah, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Perfect segue. I'm giving you a 10 on that.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you. I should have played it and not said anything. Yes, thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Yeah, yeah. Spiking the ball doesn't help.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. All right, let's go. Because, man, the media is. They just love this deal. They love the deal because it sucks. This is crazy. Why do we even do this? Trump is no good. Obama's deal just warmed over again.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, that's my favorite bit is. That's my favorite bit is that it looks like Obama's deal. It's the same. They could have done nothing. It had been better.

[Adam Curry]

Let me see. I have Morning Joe doing just that. Let me see where is. Here it is. Morning Joe. Yes. This temporary deal we've reached and we don't really know exactly what's in it. My concern is.

[John C. Dvorak]

But we'll come in.

[Adam Curry]

Of course.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which we don't know what's in it. But I'm telling you something, it's no

[Adam Curry]

good deal on nukes, which Donald Trump said this is why he was fighting the war. It is identical as in plagiarized. As in plagiarized carbon copied mimeograph sheet

[John C. Dvorak]

off of Obama's deal. They used the same words.

[Adam Curry]

They lifted it off of the Obama deal and put it on this deal on nukes. So the whole idea that Obama was weak on nukes and he's going to

[John C. Dvorak]

be tougher if you even read the language. This hasn't been released, has it?

[Adam Curry]

Well, the memorandum of understanding, there's versions have been floating around the Iranians.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but it's just all bullcrap. They don't know what it really says. But he's. How could it be? Okay, I'm sorry, just play it.

[Adam Curry]

A 14 point memo went out and then everyone's saying this is it and it's an mou. It doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter. It's, you know, contracts, they're as good as the blood they're written in. This is why Trump, he just doing what he does with the, it's like, I'm going to buy this building or I'll put my name on this building, we'll do the construction. All right, I'll sign the mou. Let the lawyers take care of it. I'll see you in two months. You're not going to sit there and read through the legalese anyway, this memorandum of agreement, understandable, not. Okay, well, here's Obama's Iran affirms, okay. That under no circumstances will Iran ever seek, develop or acquire any nuclear weapons. That's July 14, 2015. Republicans melted down. Donald Trump said it was the worst plan ever, that Iran was going to get a nuclear weapon because of this deal. And this is what Donald Trump said is Iran cannot develop or purchase a nuclear weapon. And actually it's, it's actually closer than that. I will, I will get it. He doesn't even have it. And right there is two different, literally two different words. Procure versus purchase. They're full of crap. They're totally full of crap. And since it's Obama. We got to get Obama. It is doubtful that any agreement that arises is going to be significantly different or a significant improvement from the deal that we had in the first place and had worked for a long stretch of time before we, the United States,

[John C. Dvorak]

pulled out of it.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, all right, thanks. Obama doing his pre promotion for the Presidential center. Back to msnbc. I think it's here there are sort of two clear losers politically and one is President Trump himself. There aren't good answers to those questions.

[John C. Dvorak]

A source, two sources close to the

[Adam Curry]

White House confirmed to me that all of President Trump's advisers, the closest people

[John C. Dvorak]

to him, had turned against this war.

[Adam Curry]

They had all to just end it at any cost.

[John C. Dvorak]

All of them, because it's been so disastrous just politically. And then I had a dip out in the region.

[Adam Curry]

Talk about another person, I think who's a loser in this politically and that's Bibi Netanyahu. This person from the region said, I

[John C. Dvorak]

think most people have turned against the war for domestic political reasons.

[Adam Curry]

They're referring to countries, I'll say, you know, in the Gulf. And the majority are frustrated with Bibi Netanyahu.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it's an extraordinary outcome. We were just talking about it before we started how just imagining that this

[Adam Curry]

war would end this, this way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Based on what the president promised on February 27, I think there's no question

[Adam Curry]

Iran is coming out stronger. Iran is much stronger. Iran's the winner, ladies and gentlemen. So they knew this was coming. They knew this was coming. So they send Vance out. Vance went everywhere, including the View, which I have the clips I don't think we should play was so stupid. These women are so disappointing as human beings.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's really just Vance, by the way, besides, being on the View was on without, without fail, every Fox show.

[Adam Curry]

Not just Fox. He was on cbs. Cbs. He was on, he was everywhere.

[John C. Dvorak]

He was on Gutfeld, he was on the Five, he was on Han. I mean everything. This guy, well, of course he has a book to plug. So that's the, that's the.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that helps. But that the gimmick. Maybe that's why they had him. You know, that's an interesting point because these were probably pre booked for the book. That's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. The timing is interesting. So they had him out ready to do all. He had all these appearances booked because it's his calendar too.

[John C. Dvorak]

I wonder, by the way, when he booked it because this is overbooking if I've ever seen overbooking in my life. This has got to be it. I wonder if anybody knew that he was so ridiculous, he booked that he was on every show. Because generally speaking, if you're a journalist. Let me give you a quick example. Journalists would often get notes from these PR companies. And my favorite one was always when I was at PC magazine and somebody wanted me to write a column about something, they'd send a note saying, oh, you should write a column about this guy because he's great. In fact, he was written about in Vogue and in Harper's and he was in the New York Times and he was in the Washington Post and he was in the blah, blah, blah. And they list off all these things that he's done. And I'm thinking, why am I gonna write about him? I look like Johnny Come lately. I'm not writing about him.

[Adam Curry]

Johnny Come Lately. Yeah, I get these. There's so many of these coming out now in my, in my email box because, you know, a podcaster in my Adam McCrary.com people find that everywhere I'm getting. And you can market as spam all you want. It keeps coming in. I'll have, I'll have to read a few more of those in the future because it's exactly like that. And sometimes. But first of all, what idiot are you? What idiot PR person are you? Just, I hate you. Because, you know, I don't do guess if you listen to the show, you don't. So now I hate you. Hate is a strong word. I think you're foolish. So here's Vance on CBS about the comparison. Ed, one final point on this. You know, you hear a lot of comparisons. How is this different? How is this the same from the jcpoa? I think that fundamentally misunderstands where we are. We have comprehensively destroyed their nuclear program and this agreement is about ensuring that they don't rebuild it. The JCPOA was fundamentally about bribing them to stop the construction or to cease a nuclear program that was already in progress. It's a very different background, a very different sort of leverage and I think really a different outcome for the American people. So the President was very clear at this G7 meeting, which used to be the G8 until everyone decided Russia had to get out. Just people don't even remember that anymore. Like, get out. We don't like you anymore. We do. The President was very clear about the difference between jcpoa and this MOU and 60 day deal. It's very different. Obama did not have, was not in the position to say this. Bomb Iran if they don't comply. But there's nothing enforceable in the deal itself. Is that correct?

[John C. Dvorak]

Does it have to be? I let him know, I said, look, if you don't adhere to the agreement, I don't want to do that, but we're going to bomb the hell out of you. And I don't think that they're going to veer from the agreement. What else am I going to do? Am I going to say I'm going to take you to court? Let me take you to court. Let me just. Let me sue you. No, we're going to bomb the hell out of them if they violate the agreement. I don't want them to. I want them to honor the agreement. Again, the straits close up. Bad things can happen. Happen. You know, in war, terrible things happen. Like you mentioned the question before about the school gets hit, other things get hit. Bad things happen in war. War is a nasty place. I see it. I see it. I see it better than maybe anybody has ever seen it.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so that's the. That is the deal. You stop doing this or I bomb you. Mr. President, you've been saying all week that this deal permanently prevents Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. But the drafts of the deal that have been floating around barely mention Iran's nuclear program. So can you explain how exactly the deal achieves that goal?

[John C. Dvorak]

So when I say permanently, it should be permanently. But if it's not permanently, we will bomb them. They will be bombed, just like I bombed them on Wednesday night and Tuesday night and was going to bomb them on Thursday night at a level that was three times greater. And they knew that I will bomb them. Now that's with me as president. If you have a weak, pathetic president, maybe that doesn't happen. But I can only do the job that I have to do. I have a long time to go. I have almost three years. Close to three years. Time is going fast.

[Adam Curry]

Bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again. Okay, so then there was part of the drafts and New York Times I saw people posting, we're going to give them $300 billion. This is horrible. We're the loser.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bonjour.

[Adam Curry]

This is Peter Doocy saying bonjour because he's in. In France. It's kind of. Kind of sad.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bonjour. Bonjour.

[Adam Curry]

You've been clear, President Trump, the United States is not going to directly pay Iran, but the US Is going to let the Iranians start making billions of dollars selling oil at accessing this reconstruction fund.

[John C. Dvorak]

Only if they're doing things right. Only if, Peter. Only if we're not doing Anything. We're not putting up money. Only if they're doing things right. If they're doing things right. If people want to invest, they can invest. But they had this $300 million fund. It's only $300 billion fund. It's only if they're doing things right. Remember this also, when you talk about billions of dollars, they've had much more than a trillion dollars worth of damage done. They got a long way. There'll be 15 to 20 years to rebuild what they have right now.

[Adam Curry]

So I don't see why it's so hard for people to understand that the deal is kind of obvious. You do what we say or we bomb you. You don't need more than one paragraph that says that people may not like it, but no, you know, and, and the 300. And the 300 billion is coming from the. The Gulf states. They're the one.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it's mostly in terms of investment.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, of course it is. And it's all going to flow into.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not like they're just giving him money.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's all going to flow into the Abraham Accords will all be a part of this. And then this is the thought that I find rather interesting. And funny enough, only Morning Joe talked about it. Here's Vance on CBS about Israel. Let me ask you this before you go. Is Israel on board with this? It doesn't appear so at this time. What are you hearing? What are you thinking? Well, Gayle, of course, Israel's been a good partner, but we do expect everybody in the region. They've been participating in this peace agreement. They've been participating in our talks with Iran. They understand where our perspective is.

[John C. Dvorak]

And what the President has said is

[Adam Curry]

that we expect everybody to honor this agreement. There are always, Gail, these bumpy moments with these ceasefire. Sometimes someone will fire and sometimes somebody responds. We think right now that there are probably people within Iran because of the Internet blackout. They're not even aware that this deal has happened. So we certainly expect the Israelis are going to be a participant in this peace process. But we think it's going to be good for them, it's going to be good for us, it's going to be good for the Gulf coast coalition. And, Gail, if the Iranians comply with their end of the bargain, it's going

[John C. Dvorak]

to be good for Iran, it's going

[Adam Curry]

to totally change their relationship with the region in a way that will generate a lot of prosperity for their people. But again, only if they meet their

[John C. Dvorak]

end of the bargain.

[Adam Curry]

So Israel is not happy with this And Trump doesn't care. Only Morning Joe for some reason is the only place he could find talking about this. Let's talk about what it is to be an Israeli. This morning, looking at the United States, I've heard from a lot of strong supporters of Israel over the last day. That's Joe saying, some of my best friends are Jewish. They feel betrayed. You had on October 7th more Jews killed than any day since the Holocaust. Netanyahu started a three year war. Much of it I just absolutely found to be way over the line. And the abuse heaped upon people in Gaza and leveling half of Lebanon. But the Israeli people went along with

[John C. Dvorak]

it, support it because of October 7th.

[Adam Curry]

But they launched a three year war against Iranian proxies and Iran itself. Netanyahu went in and pushed Donald Trump into starting this war. Okay, so there's that meme there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bull crap.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's bull crap. So Trump talked about this a lot, particularly when it was sitting down with the Al Qaeda guy who now runs Syria.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I suggested that, by the way, Fox was all over this. You'd make it sound like nobody else talked about it, but everybody on Fox was talking. Especially the part you're going to play which is turning it over to Syria.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there was a little bit more than that. And I don't watch Fox religiously. I do find stuff from them, but I, I take them with this. This is from C Span. I was just watching on C Span because I don't trust any cable news media.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I suggested to Israel to let Syria take care of Hasbro.

[Adam Curry]

You're telling me Fox was talking about how Israel was disappointed or they playing these clips?

[John C. Dvorak]

Both.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because to be honest with you, I think they do a better job of doing it right there. That was played over and over. And I didn't like Syria. I didn't like like where two hours before we're signing the agreement that there was an attack in Lebanon, in Beirut. It was right in, it wasn't like in the southern side and you know, it was in Beirut. I did not like that.

[Adam Curry]

I let them know that he wasn't, he was not holding back on this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, no. This was the clip that they played

[Adam Curry]

over and over, over and over. There's a couple more.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was very responsible for the gentleman that Syria, that's now the president, he's done a tremendous job. He's put that country together in a year and a half, sort of like our country, a year and a half, similar size. They said don't, please don't put him there. He's a very violent man. Al Qaeda.

[Adam Curry]

Al Qaeda.

[John C. Dvorak]

I said, well, I know one thing. A Boy Scout's not going to work.

[Adam Curry]

Did Fox have that clip?

[John C. Dvorak]

They didn't have the Boy Scout.

[Adam Curry]

I love that.

[John C. Dvorak]

But they had the rest of it and a very good job. He'd love to go on it. You know, Hezbollah is an enemy of his. And he'd go in and he. But he wouldn't knock down buildings. Every time he hears of somebody, he just goes, Trump is very upset about that. With precision.

[Adam Curry]

No, he's, he's, he's upset about the

[John C. Dvorak]

apartment getting leveled because of one guy.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, but this is not a man who was controlled by BB Netanyahu. That's my point.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's everybody's point, except the people that hate our show. Yeah, we'll get that done. That's, that's a small one. And we'll work with Israel and get it done. But I'd like to do it. I mean, you have people living there. Buildings are being dropped on top of them or right alongside of them. How would you like to live there? It's, it's so unfair. Especially Beirut. You know, you're going to Beirut. And I looked at the scene two days ago yesterday, where they hit. That was, that was a big hit. That was unnecessary in my.

[Adam Curry]

And now he's going to take it to Bibi personally.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've had a great relationship with Bibi, but now Bibi has to be more responsible with respect to Lebanon. Lebanon used to be a great country. It was a country where you had professors, doctors, lawyers. The great intellect was in Lebanon. Now it's just, it's terrible. I would say, of all countries, they've been treated the worst, and they can't defend themselves. And they have Hezbollah, which is a problem for them. So, no, I'm not happy with the way Israel has handled themselves with Lebanon and with Hezbollah. They should have been able to do this. Yeah. Faster. It just goes on forever. And when that happens, it throws a negative light on the big deal. And that's the deal with Iran. So. So when you asked me about Bibi, an unbelievable relationship.

[Adam Curry]

Unbelievable relationship. Unbelievable. I think that's what it means. It's unbelievable that I even have this guy call me on the phone.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, my favorite clip from Trump, who says, if it wasn't for me, he'd be in jail.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that, that wasn't, that wasn't a clip. That was the Axios reporting, and he confirmed that on the New York Post interview. We played that a Couple weeks ago.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's listen to what Al Jazeera has to say.

[Adam Curry]

All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, they don't talk about what you just played so much with, the Syria, Israeli thing, but they talk about what might be going on with what Iran really demands. Well, Iran's top diplomat says that any agreement with the United States must include

[Adam Curry]

the release of blocked Iranian funds, sanctions relief, and Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon. As we've been discussing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Listen to Abbas Arakchi.

[Adam Curry]

And then right after that, US President Donald Trump. The first phase is to end the war. The Strait of Hormuz, the naval blockades, and the other topics related to freeing the frozen assets of Iran, the reconstruction. Every other topic that is related will be dealt with through talks and negotiations for the come in 60 days until we reach a final agreement. During the final agreement, we'll talk about the nuclear matters and lifting the sanctions. From our perspective, the two sides of this agreement are America and Israel on one side and Iran and Hezbollah on the other. The end of the war in Lebanon is an inseparable part of the complete end of the war. And the end of the war includes the end of the occupation. Yeah, all right. Sounds about right.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what it sounds like. It sounds right. Then we have the CBC chiming in with a couple of analyses pieces. Good things are happening.

[Adam Curry]

Only a few people have seen the fine print of Donald Trump's deal with Iran, the one he claims will reopen the Strait of Hormuz and end the war. But the US President says within days, everyone will.

[John C. Dvorak]

Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, and it says it loud and clear.

[Adam Curry]

Meeting with leaders from the Persian Gulf on the sidelines of the G7. In France, Trump was peppered with questions about Israel and its intensely negative reaction to his deal. In extraordinary remarks, Trump positioned himself as Israel's savior.

[John C. Dvorak]

Without the United States, there would be no Israel. Without me, there would be no. Because no other president was willing to do what I did.

[Adam Curry]

Equally remarkable was his assessment of Israel's military tactics fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon, where more than 3,800 people have been killed. In criticizing the impact on civilians, Trump echoed arguments more commonly used by Israel's harshest international critics.

[John C. Dvorak]

Israel is fighting Hezbollah too long and too many people are being killed. And you don't have to knock down an apartment house every time you're looking for somebody, because there are a lot of people in those apartment houses, and they're not all Hezbollah, that I can tell you.

[Adam Curry]

Yep. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the CBC is addressing it to some extent. Is part two, the Potential lifting of

[Adam Curry]

sanctions to ease Iran's crippled economy and the future of its nuclear program, which both the US And Israel. Israel said necessitated the war. Have been kicked down the road to be dealt with during two months of negotiations, said Iran's Foreign Minister, Syed Abbas Arakchi. Israel's full withdrawal from Lebanon must come first, he said. Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not address Trump's criticism of him or his war tactics. But Monday night he vowed to maintain Israel's occupation of southern Lebanon, casting doubt on how long the negotiations with Iran will last. If Trump's deal holds, shipping lanes will reopen and more attacks and bombings averted. But with Iran's leadership emboldened, the alliance between the United States and Israel is being tested, perhaps as never before. Okay, yeah, yeah. Valid, by the way. I keep saying by the way. Unbelievable. Right now, CNN and Miz now are doing full on live coverage of this presidential center. And there's John Legend and they're on stage, they're performing Bruce Springsteen. You've got the Obamas dancing. Oh, Stevie Wonder's there. George Bush is there.

[John C. Dvorak]

George Bush is there.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Dancing like a white guy. Oh, man. It looks like a very small exclusive concert, which it would make sense. It's just. Okay, all right. It's Live Aid, everybody. It's just like Live Aid. We need to go. All right. We need to go live. We need to go live. This is so awesome. Obama's on. Let's go crazy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Now the president dooms didn't do himself a lot of favors with everything he said in France. Here's Anderson Cooper picked up on it.

[John C. Dvorak]

The nuclear dust. We're gonna want that. And I think we're gonna get that. We're gonna get the dust back. The nuclear dust. The nuclear dust. We're getting the nuclear dust. That was a term I made up because it's sort of, you know, it's a simpler term for people to understand. It's nuclear dust, sort of dusty. But I said, we get the nuclear dust.

[Adam Curry]

He can call it whatever he wants, but they're not getting it.

[John C. Dvorak]

When asked about it today, the president

[Adam Curry]

said that's no longer a problem because the material was buried by American airstrikes, which led to this very long soliloquy

[John C. Dvorak]

about granite and marble. They were building or they were enriching material, as they say. I call it nuclear dust. They were enriching material under granite mountains. Granite being for those not in the construction business. Granite being a very strong, the strongest stone. It's not as pretty as marble, but it's much more. It's much stronger. It's a lot stronger. Like the new granite I put on the stairs of the White House going to the Oval Office, the black granite. It's rated 1 million years plus. No marbles rated that. Marble's rated a hundred years if it's outside. So these are granite.

[Adam Curry]

It's about granite. I mean, I was expecting to go back about the pool. Olympic sized swimming pools now with algae.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's funny that. Yeah, granite is a different. We use. It both used both of these products. And marble's porous.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Oh, it stains. You got to be real careful.

[John C. Dvorak]

It stains.

[Adam Curry]

It stains.

[John C. Dvorak]

But granite does nothing. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Let's see, there was one analyst I did get this from Fox who explained the difference between this Iran deal, which is do what I say or I throw a bomb on your head versus the jcpoa. Former President Obama was on TV earlier today saying, you know, whatever deal the President is able to sign, that it wouldn't be much different than his deal, the jcpoa. Can you tell us how this deal is different and how it is better? So broadly speaking, the JCPOA deal negotiated under President Obama allowed Iran a path toward a nuclear program. Because when we talk about enriched uranium, and this is really important when we look at the difference in these deals here, and I don't want to give you too much of a lesson on enrichment, but it's actually quite important when

[John C. Dvorak]

we're talking about the Obama deal versus

[Adam Curry]

the deal that was just signed right now during the Obama administration. It allowed Iran to continue enriching uranium. And the way that uranium is enriched, the uranium ore is actually extracted from the ground and then through a chemical

[John C. Dvorak]

process, it turns into yellow cake.

[Adam Curry]

And then another chemical process, it turns into hexafluoride gas. And they spin that gas very rapidly in advanced centrifuges. And ultimately the heavier particles go to the outside and the lighter one ones stay in the middle. And this is repeated over and over again until you get to a higher purity of enriched uranium. And to take enriched uranium from let's say 5 to 10% to 20%, ultimately to 60% and eventually 90%, which is weapons grade material, can be a matter of weeks, if not days. And so allowing the Iranians to keep advanced centrifuges and then enrich uranium available eventually closer to weapons grade material, set them on a path toward a weapon, because that is a process that is needed to create a nuclear weapon, even if they weren't doing it at that moment, this agreement does not allow the Iranians, according to this senior administration official, to keep any of their enriched material. And that means they're not going to be able to repeat that process in advanced centrifuges. And then once US Forces leave the region, including increase the purity of the enriched uranium again toward a nuclear weapon. All right, so that kind of explains. It is a little bit different. And the only thing we care about is the price of gas. The FIFA tourists. That's right, the FIFA tourists, they. They already love it. Like, I can't believe how cheap your gas is. What are you complaining about? I'm from Sweden. I'm from Germany. So cheap. It's amazing. And the president was asked about this by his shill in the. In the press pool. Thank you, President Trump. I'm sorry, this is a different sh. Oil prices are now plummeting. How do you see this agreement further affecting energy prices in the US and the US economy in the long term? And secondly, Mr. President, how do you think Vice President JD Vance did on the View yesterday?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, first of all, thank you for the word plummeting, because that's what's happening. Oil prices are plummeting, and that means oil prices are going to come down. You know, if you make donuts, you have a heating, you have a stove

[Adam Curry]

donut, you have to buy the heat,

[John C. Dvorak]

you need the gas or the electricity or whatever you're using. And when oil prices come down, oil is the biggest thing. Oil is. You get oil prices coming down, and they're going to come down. And we're hitting in the threes now for gasoline, and that'll come down a lot lower.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know what plummeting. I'm not sure exactly what plummeting. I mean, you plummet to your death. So that's, that's like all the way down to the bottom. What is the definition of plummeting?

[John C. Dvorak]

Falling fast.

[Adam Curry]

Let's ask the robot. Book of knowledge, give me the definition of plummeting. Oh, my goodness. Let me try that again. Book of knowledge, give me the definition of plummeting. Oh, the book of knowledge is broken. Hmm. Okay. Did you look it up?

[John C. Dvorak]

No. It means falling fast.

[Adam Curry]

Does this mean falling fast? Really?

[John C. Dvorak]

What do you think it means? Plummet.

[Adam Curry]

Let me see.

[John C. Dvorak]

Definition of fall from an altitude.

[Adam Curry]

Let's see.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just want.

[Adam Curry]

I'm just asking. Let's see.

[John C. Dvorak]

The robot should be at.

[Adam Curry]

Robot is broke. Robot's broken. To fall very. To fall very quickly and suddenly. Okay. Fall very quickly and suddenly. I don't know if it's. It is dropping. It is.

[John C. Dvorak]

It has gone down below drop from 100 to 75. So.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's 25%. That's quite a fall.

[John C. Dvorak]

What we know so far is that the oil prices which were expected have

[Adam Curry]

now come down to $75 a barrel, which was nearly trading about 100, $11020 per barrel during the West Asia war crisis. But now the crude oil prices have slid down and the Brent has also come down to a 78.3%. Global prices have continued to come down and this is also going to affect

[John C. Dvorak]

not just India, but also our neighboring

[Adam Curry]

countries of China, Japan, South Korea, Europe, which were heavily affected by the instability of the West Asia. Now, what's interesting is that CNBC is starting to publish articles about an oil glut that is on the horizon that there would be too much oil. Have you picked up on this?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, but that'd be great.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, they call it the golly buff effect. Mr. Vice President, Brian Sullivan, thank you again for coming on the program. I want to follow up with that because I think it's incredibly important, what you just said, that if Mohammed Galiboff, who is seen as a more hardliner, is at the table, that would be construed as an even better symbol, a better sign of where this negotiation may go. Would you agree with that? That getting somebody like Mohammed Galiboff, the Speaker of the House, who was seen as more of a hardliner internally, would be viewed as the best possible outcome here rather than one of the more moderates that might be seen as a little more pro White House? And yet you still might have this division and factions inside of Iran. Well, I think the best outcome is a good deal for the American people, which we have. Fundamentally, we're dealing with everybody in the Iranian system. You know, there's the irgc, the sort of regime hardliners, the military side, there's the political leadership. And within the political leadership, you have people who are more hardline and less hardline. We expect to have a full spectrum of representatives at the negotiation on Friday. Again, we've been talking to these people sometimes indirectly, but sometimes directly. And that's what's fundamentally changed under the President's leadership. We are now speaking directly to the Iranian system. We have some good relationships there. So this is going to be a successful negotiation because, you know, we're not passing messages through various back channels anymore. We're actually talking to them. And when you talk to them, you figure out what's real, what's false, fake what are they serious about? What are they not serious about? And the thing I'd add to that is we fundamentally have all the cards here. We don't have to give the Iranians anything if they don't make the commitments

[John C. Dvorak]

that we want long term on the nuclear program.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you're right. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can I ask you a quick question?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought the negotiations were done last week over the weekend and they were going to sign the agreement on Sunday and the Iranians said no, we're not going to sign it on Sunday. We're going to sign the MOA or MOE or whatever the hell it is. MOE memorandum on Friday and they're going to go sign it on Friday. Now what? Now all of a sudden I'm hearing that this is negotiations with all kinds of factions. Well, what. Wait, what?

[Adam Curry]

No, the mem.

[John C. Dvorak]

What he said.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Here's how I understand it, because since you asked me the question, I am

[John C. Dvorak]

asking you the question.

[Adam Curry]

And as an aside, the definition of glut is flooding the market with more supply than there is demand. The memorandum of understanding, if you what I've read the 14 points is no more than. Shut up, don't create nuclear bombs or I will bomb you. And we'll figure out all the details in the next 60 days. And that's what Vance is going to sign on Friday. Some elaborate science.

[John C. Dvorak]

Vance makes it sound as though they're going to be doing negotiations on Friday.

[Adam Curry]

That's when the negotiations, the technical, the technical, technical negotiations will start. Who's going to go in and check it? You know, what are the checks and balances? To me it doesn't matter what the President is saying and whether Americans like it or not. He's saying stop that nonsense or I will buy. He's literally saying I will put a bomb on your head. That's the deal. You don't need anything else. I mean, his point is valid, you know, so we have a 150 page document.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's the point?

[Adam Curry]

And if they violate the document, his point is valid.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's his point?

[Adam Curry]

Get rid of all your nuclear dust. Don't mess with the straight of law.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is that a point or is that an assertion?

[Adam Curry]

No, that's a point. That is a point in the Memorandum of understanding spending. Stop messing with shipping in the Strait of Hormuz. That's it. Or I will put a bomb on your head. That's it. That's the whole deal. Now will that hold up in international court? No, that's what Trump said, what am I going to do? I'm going to sue these guys if they break the deal. No, as long as he's president, that's the deal. And the next president, we'll see. He even said that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you see when he walked into the G7 and said, I'm the boss, did you see that?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, I did.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was hilarious.

[Adam Curry]

It wasn't good enough for audio, unfortunately. Yeah, it was a lot of fun things that happened at the G7. And my favorite was Starmer, like, we did this. We're gonna do this. We're all in, aren't we? Good. Well, let me first say how much we welcome the deal that President Trump has been able to get in this situation and congratulate him and the mediators on the work that they have done, because this is a really important breakthrough at the G7 here. We've been discussing the details of that deal. Oh, we're. We're discussing the details. Yeah. You're not in the negotiations, Starmer. How we get the Strait of Hormuz open as quickly as possible. As you will know, President Macron and I put together a group of countries prepared to play their part in terms of reassurance to get vessels through the strait. That is huge. We're going to be able to play a part of important. In terms of reopening the strait. Very, very important for us in the United Kingdom. Of course, the strait being closed in the way that it has, has had an impact on our economy, had an impact on every household across the country. So we'll play our full part in relation to that. Yes, we're here, we're side by side. Our special relationship is restored. We're good to go. And if anything, I still fully believe that this was just as much about killing the old systems with Lloyds of London. Now there's all these other insurance companies. We're the ones that are controlling what's happening there. And the City of London and the British Crown, all those people, they're cut off. They're out of the deal. Go mess around with NATO and Ukraine and see if you can make that work. Work. I think it's a very. I think it's a very good deal for America. And it was interesting because the, the, the oil baron, he's like, you know, a lot of analysts are saying it's going to shoot up over 100, 150. Like, what are you talking about?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think this. We've heard this before.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think the deal will really be finalized. Until well after the midterms. That doesn't seem likely. After the midterms. No. I think there's a lot of guys in the oil business like we, we got to keep this going. This is great for us.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got a just Obama clip just came. I play my Obama clip.

[Adam Curry]

Obama clip. Hold on a second.

[John C. Dvorak]

When the Obama.

[Adam Curry]

The Obama. Let me just. I just, I. I just, I just, I just, I just just. I just, I, I just, I just, I just, I just want to be honest clear about this. Imagine that. Imagine if I had pulled Fox News credentials from the White House press corps. Are you so bored with me that you're going to put a poorly edited Obama clip in all of a sudden?

[John C. Dvorak]

Poorly edited. Oh, that's the worst thing to say.

[Adam Curry]

Click, click, click. It wasn't even rhythmic. Click, click. You know, we have that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry. But Obama. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[Adam Curry]

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, see, that's a. That's a good Obama.

[John C. Dvorak]

So just as an as. Brouhaha and the G7 and every is did you. And you. I bet you haven't heard about this the Rubio row with India.

[Adam Curry]

No, I haven't. The US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has told his Indian counterpart that any violation of the blockade of Iran will not be tolerated. He also warned against what he called the illicit transport of Iranian oil in the Strait of Hormuz. Ambarasan Etirajan reports. Marco Rubio made the comments after the Indian Foreign minister, Subrahmanyam Jaishankar called him to protest over the killing of three Indian seafarers by an American strike on a merchant vessel. It was one of three ships with mostly Indian crew that were attacked. This week, as the US enforces its naval blockade on Iran, Delhi launched a strong diplomatic protest. Despite the two countries sharing close ties, the Latest comments by Mr. Rubio are clearly seen as a snub. As one former Indian diplomat pointed pointed out, there was no regret over the killing of unarmed civilian sailors of a friendly country. I had not heard that. BBC Interesting. Yeah, I hadn't heard that. This is from the same country where they're doing this to their school. Children now woke schools teaching pupils that Stonehenge was built by black people. Alex?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

So children are being taught that Stonehenge. Is this a story? Male on Online Today a Stonehenge was built by black people and the Roman emperor Nero married a trans woman. These are the stories that are being and they're also being told in pro transgender lessons that slaves had their body parts altered and it was a form of gender transition.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, you couldn't make it up.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, of course. That's exactly what they're doing.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's a good. You're topping me now with this.

[Adam Curry]

It was jack off clips shooting fish in a barrel. Do you want to talk about Ukraine and Russia for a minute, or is it too much war? I'm going something else.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think we can move on to other stuff.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's nothing going on there that I can tell that's worth talking about. That's new.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they hit uk, Ukraine, drones hit hit targets in Russia again. And what I'm hearing, I'll take it with a grain of salt, is that Russia may be ready to show what they can really do. Like hit them with something bigger.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, we'll see.

[Adam Curry]

Like a mini nuke.

[John C. Dvorak]

It seems highly unlikely because all the. The radiation will go into Russia.

[Adam Curry]

It depends on where. If they hit him near Poland. Go into Poland. It depends on how the wind is blowing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that would make. They're not doing that.

[Adam Curry]

Here's something. Although we already knew it and we already discussed it, Byron Allen was on cbs, the station where he. I see David Letterman now at the Obama Presidential Center. Oh, my goodness.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, is. Oh, man.

[Adam Curry]

It's a party you do not want to be at. It's like, I don't want to be there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Anything with John Legend is the giveaway

[Adam Curry]

and Bruce Springsteen both on the same stage because their music is so alike. Here's Byron Allen explaining his deal. So how did this deal turn out? Like, how did it work? Because you talked to Kevin Frazier about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

This was something that you had to

[Adam Curry]

come out of pocket for. It's something you're very passionate about. Yeah. So the, you know, the networks are challenged because sports rights are very expensive, of course, and, you know, ad dollars are shifting from links to digital. So there's some financial pressure. And I've invested about a billion dollars buying abc, NBC, CBS and Fox affiliates and other assets like the Weather Channel. So I bought the Weather Channel about eight years ago.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And what I said to the networks, I said, look, you're spending about $150 million on Colbert and the show after Colbert. So you've decided to cancel both of them. My recommendation is that you, you don't spend money on that time period. Now that you have decided to cancel them, because at the end of the day, you're throwing me an audience at 1:30 in the morning to my CBS affiliates that I own around the country. And I'm running half hour infomercials, spray on hair, you know, abs in 24 hours. I said save your money. I will put my show Comics unleash on now. I started Comics Unleashed. Well, first of all, they said this is great. Yeah, they said this is a great idea. You're going to save us 150 to 70. I love that you use your business mind to kind of transform the comedy world. But you just mentioned that you've written jokes for David Letterman and you know

[John C. Dvorak]

the public criticism from Letterman, from Kimmel,

[Adam Curry]

from others about CBS canceling Colbert. How does that sit with you as the person who's taking on this time slot? I think it was a very unfortunate event. I love Stephen Colbert. I'm a big fan. Once they made the decision, I said, ok, this isn't show business. This is business show. You know, they say, you know, they're losing lots of money. Business solution not to lose lots of money. And I think we can hold on to his audience and hopefully build on it because it is business show, not show business. And I'm sure that CBS right after that said so people were wrong that it wasn't Trump who got him fired. It was really about money. Yeah, they didn't. Yeah, they didn't. One more that you will be interested.

[John C. Dvorak]

Guys. The guys, the guys are geniuses.

[Adam Curry]

Byron Allen. Yeah, I don't know. I'm skeptical about buying all the local affiliates though. What is the long term value of that?

[John C. Dvorak]

He sees everything as a vehicle for infomercials and his shows.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but. Okay, I just don't know what the viewership is anymore. It has to be. I mean just over time it's declining. There's enough evidence of that. So I just wonder if he can make it.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm sure he's made a calculation that he hasn't made mistakes.

[Adam Curry]

He's not dumb. He's not dumb. Not dumb. So here is an ad that popped up that Steve the Clip Collector included in his batch to me this morning. Did you know that the average American sees up to nine pharmaceutical ads every day?

[John C. Dvorak]

That adds up to 16 hours of

[Adam Curry]

pharmaceutical ads every year. Are you sick and tired of pharmaceutical companies pushing medications you probably don't even

[John C. Dvorak]

need just to drive up profits? You're not alone.

[Adam Curry]

Nearly 3, 3 out of 4American voters

[John C. Dvorak]

want Big Pharma to stop advertising directly to consumers.

[Adam Curry]

But Big Pharma ignores what people want.

[John C. Dvorak]

In 2025 alone, drugmakers spent $9 billion on direct to consumer advertising. Enough is enough. Big Pharma needs to Give that time back to Americans. Voters are ready for lawmakers to take a stand and get Big Pharma off

[Adam Curry]

our airwaves and out of our living rooms. Tell Congress it's time to ban direct to consumer advertising by pharmaceutical companies. Learn more@Pharma ReformAlliance.com paid for by pharmaceutical Reform Alliance, Inc. How about that?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's about time. I don't know why they have to do put together a group when all that should happen is the president and the HHS secretary should just put just put the kibosh on it. We're the only country besides New Zealand in the entire world that allow this.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they're calling.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's created a situation where the big farm is pushing people around. They got too much political power clout.

[Adam Curry]

If you [e-mail] there's a quite a big group of partners. I'd say on this page probably about 50 of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like who the Name a few.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, I'll start at the top. Association of builders and contractors in Greater Michigan. Ash Woodworking. Yeah, that's like bad idea. Supply should be on here. Let's see this.

[John C. Dvorak]

California so far too. Lightweights.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's a lot of them. California African American Chamber of Commerce. California Black Chamber of Commerce. California Hispanic Kalizian Chamber of Commerce. I have chambers of commerce. Citizens unite. Let's see, I'm looking for some big names here. Doster law offices. Meaningless event ticket authority. You're right. It seems like a lot of small company, a lot of real estate people for some reason. Reason. And they say they are. What do they say here? Bipartisan alliance whose members are united by common goals. Holding big Pharma accountable for ripping off the American people and making prescription drugs more affordable and accessible in the United States once and for all. I smell Trump somewhere and they have

[John C. Dvorak]

a not done well enough to be Trump.

[Adam Curry]

They're at 1300 Pennsylvania Avenue. So it's not like avenue down the street. It's not like Avenue K. Republican women of East Alabama. I know. I like that they're doing the ads and if you know. Yes. I'm sure that the reason I say I smell Trump is because he knows that it's a problem if he just signs an executive order. It has to go through Congress. They need a. Dare I say it, a grassroots movement. That's what they need. I think someone's trying something.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did banning cigarettes ad require that Congress?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, it did require Congress. Absolutely.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do we know that for a fact? We can't ask the robot anymore.

[Adam Curry]

I Think the robot may be fixed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kick it, kick it.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on. Let me see if the robot is. Let me see if the robot's working again. What was your question?

[John C. Dvorak]

Did it require an act of Congress to ban cigarette advertising?

[Adam Curry]

Book of knowledge. Did it require an act of Congress to ban cigarette advertising? That's still broken.

[John C. Dvorak]

What does it do? It flips a page and dies.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's getting an error.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's talk about voter fraud.

[Adam Curry]

I have the other robot working on fixing that robot as we speak. It'll get fixed during the show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Have the one robot fixed yet? Yeah, there you go. Now you're talking.

[Adam Curry]

Exactly, exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's go with. I got some voter fraud clips.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. You want to set it up?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Voter fraud in California is ridiculous and is being ignored. And people, you know, we talk about it all the time on the show. We had some good clips about how it works and. But they've, you know, they've been uncovering stuff left and right and there's got to be something done about it because, you know, half of the dead people in California are voting. This is the video taken on Skid Row that the Department of Justice says has sparked an investigation into voter registration fraud in Los Angeles.

[Adam Curry]

The video, created by right wing political activist James o', Keefe, was posted back in March.

[John C. Dvorak]

And on Monday, Assistant Attorney General Hermeet Dhillon, along alongside First Assistant U.S. attorney

[Adam Curry]

Bill Saley and officials with the FBI,

[John C. Dvorak]

announced an arrest and charges in the case. They say 64 year old Brenda Lee Brown Armstrong, a longtime signature gatherer for petitions, has been charged with paying people, including some experiencing homelessness, to register to vote.

[Adam Curry]

Prosecutors say her motivation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Petition gatherers are paid for valid signatures which require the person signed signing to

[Adam Curry]

be a registered voter. She would then gather, starting in 2025, stacks of voter registration forms from the Los Angeles County Registrar of Voters and

[John C. Dvorak]

then go to Skid Row in downtown

[Adam Curry]

Los Angeles to have homeless people first sign the voter registration forms and then sign the signature petitions.

[John C. Dvorak]

In exchange, they say she would offer cash, which is illegal under federal law, and have them use her old address address on the form.

[Adam Curry]

These were often small sums of cash,

[John C. Dvorak]

just a few dollars, as well as

[Adam Curry]

cigarettes and phone cards. She had them put her address as the address to receive the ballots. What she was going to do with those ballots when received was to be determined. But this is an example of election fraud. Yeah, it's the homeless people they're paying.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's also an example of marketing.

[Adam Curry]

Explain.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, smart marketing, she gets paid so much for signatures on petitions she has these people create those signatures so she can get. She probably makes five dollars per signature on a petition and costs her two bucks to get somebody to create a new voter registration. She makes three bucks on the arbitrage, right?

[Adam Curry]

Well, that was because California law allows ballot harvesting, which I don't think is legal everywhere.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a fabulous marketing opportunity for this woman. She should be given at least some kudos from one of the, you know, maybe an award or something from Advertising Age, perhaps.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, the golden. What is this? What does it have in the golden lion? What is it?

[John C. Dvorak]

Something like that.

[Adam Curry]

A golden lion for this. Wonderful, wonderful.

[John C. Dvorak]

The announcement comes as California prepares for the June 2 primary election with Monday marking the deadline to register to vote

[Adam Curry]

for a mail in ballot while in person. Voter registration extends to May 23. Federal officials also tied the case to a broader legal battle over access to California's voter rolls, which they suspect have

[John C. Dvorak]

undocumented residents registered to vote, something California officials have denied.

[Adam Curry]

In terms of what the broader electorate thinks about this, it's not the case that folks are worried about people who are ineligible participating.

[John C. Dvorak]

Matt Lassenier is a political science professor at Cal State University, Long Beach.

[Adam Curry]

He says cases of election fraud are rare in the US Amid safeguards like

[John C. Dvorak]

signature verification, research continues to show that

[Adam Curry]

voter fraud has little to no impact

[John C. Dvorak]

on election outcomes nationwide.

[Adam Curry]

We see this less than two dozen in the thousands of elections that we have across the country. So it is a microscopic rate of incidents in voter fraud.

[John C. Dvorak]

He also warned of the difference between voter registration fraud and a fraudulent ballot

[Adam Curry]

that actually gets counted for a race.

[John C. Dvorak]

Federal prosecutors have not alleged that fraudulent ballots were cast in Brown Armstrong's case case.

[Adam Curry]

But when asked about the scope of this investigation, they say it's just the tip of the iceberg.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is part of a larger investigation.

[Adam Curry]

We'll get into all that, I think soon, in the future. And until more arrests and charges are

[John C. Dvorak]

announced, experts say elections in America remain secure.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, secure and safe and effective.

[John C. Dvorak]

They always do that. I mean, it's a ridiculous report. I mean, I've got two more clips, but play this one instead or skip to this. Voter fraud tax Texas in la, this is a Twitter guy or somebody, you know, Twitter guy, an influencer, some just a local bitching and moaning about the obvious.

[Adam Curry]

So the people of LA literally just voted to increase their own taxes. And I don't mean they did that by voting for Karen Bass. No, I mean there was an actual ballot question saying, hey, do you guys want to pay more in taxes? And the people of LA apparently said yes. Now, you may be asking yourself, who the fuck would vote to raise their own taxes? Well, here's how that vote actually went down.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the people that came and voted in person. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Almost unanimously voted against that ballot measure. They were like, oh, wait, you want to raise our taxes?

[John C. Dvorak]

Fuck that.

[Adam Curry]

But then you had the mail in ballots, and in the early mail in ballots, they also voted against it. But the ballots that came in after election day. No, the ones that were like 65% Nithya Ramen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

They overwhelmingly voted in favor of raising their own taxes, by the way. They raised it from 9.7. They raised their sales tax from 9.75 to 10.25. They voted in favor of a more than 10% sales tax. But, yeah, I mean, look, here's the thing. You can argue that it's strange that so many late ballots, ballots, you know, 65% were in favor of Nithya Raman. I think it's even crazier than more than 80% of those ballots were in favor of raising their own taxes. Yeah. Which brings us right back to the very beginning of this. Of this episode. You live in a crazy place.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not in la.

[Adam Curry]

It's California. California is. It's nuts.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I think it's corrupt.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Laced with fraud.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I have a question for you. I have a report for you, and I need to ask you a question about it before you fall into the Pacific Ocean. A new study finds San Andreas has built up more pressure today than in the last 1,000 years, priming the SoCal region for just what geologists have warned about for decades. Decades. The big one you got to reminisce to a geologist is like, in the next century. Iconic seismologist for the USGS, Dr. Lucy Jones, says this study tells us a lot, but it doesn't tell us everything. It doesn't tell us when the next earthquake is going to be. To understand the future, geologists looked to the past, compiling data from the last 1000 years and creating this snapshot. The red along the fault represents historically high pressure built by over a century of calm with no significant quake to ease the Earth's energy. Unfortunately, there in Southern California, you guys, you know, are plagued with a lot of different fault lines, including the sort of the different parts of the San Andreas itself and other faults like the San Jacinto. And it's at that intersection of fault sitting here at the critical corridor of the Cajon Pass, that acts as a gateway through the state, meaning a potentially massive quake stretching from one end of California to the next. So there's there have been some earthquakes in the past that look like they went the whole length from south all the way to north through the cone pass. And the stress level is extra high on sort of both sides of that right now, increasing the chances that the next one could actually rip right through that area and be a larger earthquake. Overall, a double fault rupture much worse than a single fault event which we know is still deadly. Like the 1989 6.9 Loma Prieta quake in San Francisco killing 63 people. Well, your local boots on the ground knowledge of this thousand year stress on the fault.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we've been talking about this. Something going to happen in Southern California for the last decade.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Earthquake wise. And so they're still talking about it. The way I see it, something's going to happen. Well, it's going to be in the next 50 years. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Yeah, that's a bet would be easy to take. Book of Knowledge has been fixed. The robot has been fixed by the robot. Let's ask the question again. Book of Knowledge, did it require an act of Congress to ban tobacco advertising on television in America?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

He's back. He's working. Okay, Book of Knowledge, let's see if we can actually find anything. According to the Book of Knowledge. Yes, it most certainly did. The Public Health Cigarette Smoking act was a 1970 federal law approved by the United States Congress and signed into law by President Richard Nixon, which banned cigarette advertisements on American radio and television. There you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that means it's never going to happen. Maybe the cigarette people were never the kind of lobbyists that the pharma people are.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they should have.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're just a couple of cigarette companies. They weren't really selling stuff for thousands of dollars a pill. They weren't lobbying like this. They weren't contributing to the campaigns of the President to the extreme that the pharma people are. This is never going to happen. You just bummed me out.

[Adam Curry]

Well, maybe Elon Musk with all with his trillion dollars can lobby everybody. He can get the President elected. So maybe he can do that. Yeah, maybe lobby Elon, but.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, on the topic of California, they might as well play a little bit of this.

[Adam Curry]

You don't want those other two fraud clips. Are you good with those?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah, let's play those. Let' fraud clip. Because these are from abc.

[Adam Curry]

Los Angeles county woman has agreed to plead guilty to paying people on skid row to register to vote. Federal officials announcing the charge against Brenda Lee Brown Armstrong this week, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. The national news as Jeff Harris joining us. And according to her plea agreement, we do know Brown Armstrong allegedly worked as a petition circulator for nearly two decades. There is striking social media video. What else is coming to light? So in that plea agreement, Brown Armstrong admitting to working as a paid petition circulator, allegedly targeting the homeless while gathering signatures throughout the Los Angeles area. The bombshell admission coming after federal officials got their hands on an undercover video. The Justice Department announcing this week Brown Armstrong has been federally charged and has agreed to plead guilty penalty to one felony count of paying another person to register to vote, including the homeless along LA skid row. We're committed to protecting the integrity of all American elections at the Department of

[John C. Dvorak]

Justice Civil Rights Division. But there needs to be a commitment

[Adam Curry]

by people and leaders here in California. According to her plea agreement, Brown Armstrong for nearly two decades worked as a petition circulator, being paid by coordinators to gather signatures to qualify initiatives, recalls and referendums for California state ballots. She paid the homeless around two or three bucks to fill out voter registration forms instructing them to use her own former LA resident. Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's just basically the same clip reiterated more professionally. I want to play this clip. This is Newsome whining. This is only part of a six minute rant.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, can I do the setup for this? Is this the Justice Department probe?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, there's a setup.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I have a setup. I got a setup.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, okay.

[Adam Curry]

I got a setup.

[John C. Dvorak]

California Governor Gavin Newsom is accusing.

[Adam Curry]

Accusing President Donald Trump of ordering the Justice Department to launch a politically motivated investigation into him and his wife. Newsom says federal agents have been questioning his family, his friends and former employees. The Democratic governor has frequently mocked President Trump on social media.

[John C. Dvorak]

Newsom claims the DOJ is searching for

[Adam Curry]

a crime that does not exist. He says he is being targeted for one reason. Okay, you want your whining clip? Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they always listen to dude. So Newsom goes on the TV and he starts whining.

[Adam Curry]

In recent days, federal agents have knocked on the doors of family, friends and former employees. Not because they found a crime, because they're simply trying to find one. They're demanding records. They're abusing the grand jury process, digging through years and years of random documents. Donald Trump isn't just coming after me because of my mean tweets. He's coming after me because I'm considering running for president, because he hates that. I've consistently called him out over and over. Again, for his lies and deceit. Donald Trump is simply the most corrupt

[John C. Dvorak]

president in American history. He's not going after him anyway. It's after his wife. Yeah, well, making $3.5 million a year. And they. And it's not that it's illegal to take most of the money from a NGO or any of these little organizations you start, it's that they think there may be some tax fraud involved.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I thought it was behest payments is what it's called. Which is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's probably that too. They're looking for something. She's suspicious. She seems. I don't know if you've seen her much recently, but we see her here. She seems oddly nervous about not just since this began.

[Adam Curry]

Kidding.

[John C. Dvorak]

But for a long time she seemed oddly nervous. She reminds me of Waltz's wife, the turning the page woman who is just like bug eyed and acting really strange.

[Adam Curry]

Well, so the way I understand the behest payments is. And you're right, the way I understand it is a company can donate money, money to the governor, and it would be for any nonprofit the governor designates. And the governor happens to designate some or all of that money to his wife's nonprofit, which I think is some LGBTQ plus nonsense.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Or something.

[Adam Curry]

And then you see that These companies, notably AT&T and Comcast, get huge. 70 million 125 sweetheart deals, contracts with the state of California. Warn you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And the fact that he's out there saying this tells me there's something there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I agree. He went on and on and on protesting too much.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, if he just lay low and, you know, but no, he's done out of style.

[Adam Curry]

So I want to see if this is. I don't know if this is the clip that I was looking for about the screw. All of a sudden people are starting to figure out that the cartels, the Mexican cartels, are smuggling 800,000 cattle a year from Central America into Mexico with fake ear tags, falsified records. And this is what's brought the Screwworm back to Texas. And I'm telling you, when they really get into it, they're going to find more than cows. They're going to find drugs and people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

You want a uniform response in some way? No, this is not what I thought it was. This sucks. No, this is not the clip I thought it was.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but I've heard that too.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we talked about in the last show and I heard it maybe from Texas Slim. I wouldn't be able to say for sure. And I think we're going to see art imitating life in Dutton Ranch from Taylor Sheridan. I think they're going to. That's where the storyline is going to go. This is going to come. Come out. It's going to be pretty big. And then you know what Trump is going to do? He's going to go bomb some cartel guy, which is what we're doing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he's done it before.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, is what we're doing, that we're bombing. We're bombing cartel people. As an American, I'm kind of digging it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Let's go blow some people up, suckers. And an update on the splc Southern Poverty Law Center.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, these guys.

[Adam Curry]

This is great. New details are drawing attention to a former top official at the Southern Poverty Law center, the organization best known for tracking hate groups and extremism.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's always worse than we thought.

[Adam Curry]

According to the Justice Department's expanding case against the SPLC, a senior official identified in court documents as Employee 2 was in a romantic relationship with a confidential informant embedding inside the white supremacist group National Alliance.

[John C. Dvorak]

They didn't just pay him to foment the hate. They told their donors they were fighting. They actually dated him.

[Adam Curry]

The superseding indictment alleges the informant known as field source number nine received more than $1 million in payments from the SPLC over several years. Prosecutors also claim Employee 2 and the informant shared a home and two joint bank account accounts. The indictment alleges approximately $140,000 in donor money ultimately flowed into those accounts and was used to pay the couple's personal living expenses. While the indictment does not identify Employee 2 by name, news reports have identified the person as Heidi Barrick, the former director of the SPLC's Intelligence Project and a prominent researcher of white supremacy supremacist movements. This is so good. This is so good. Have you seen this woman?

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, how can I put this tactically? She couldn't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tactically, you mean. You mean. You don't mean tactically, you mean.

[Adam Curry]

What do I mean? What's the word?

[John C. Dvorak]

Tactfully.

[Adam Curry]

Tactfully. Thank you. Yes. How can I put this tactfully? The cartels could have smuggled her from Mexico.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, she looks Spanish.

[Adam Curry]

No, she looks okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's her name?

[Adam Curry]

I.

[John C. Dvorak]

Forget it at the end there.

[Adam Curry]

Let's see. Let's see.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on.

[Adam Curry]

Let me get her name by name. News reports have identified the person as Heidi Barrick. Heidi Barrick. Heidi Barrick. Look at Heidi Barrick. It's like. Yeah, it seems exactly like the kind of woman who would be shacking up with a Hitler sympathizer. Neo Nazi bovinesque. Thank you. Thank you. The control room is helping me out. Yes, that's good. Bovine Esque. Would you hire her as a supermodel?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

She has a fake ear tag. You can.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, trolls.

[Adam Curry]

Did you find her?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, there's no pictures of her in here. There's some thin blondes. It doesn't sound bovine esque. No,

[Adam Curry]

no, no. While you're looking for that, briefly, Jeff Bezos doubles down on his vision for AI And I am all in on AI with Bezos. I know there's a lot of concern that many people have, including many smart people, that AI is going to make humans redundant and so on. I. I totally disagree with this point of view. And, and I think, in fact, AI

[John C. Dvorak]

is going to create a labor shortage

[Adam Curry]

because it's going to make it possible for people to identify more problems.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have an endless set of things to invent, and we are only limited today. We are limited not by our imaginations, but by what we can actually do.

[Adam Curry]

I promise you, every single person in this audience has had an idea for

[John C. Dvorak]

a new business or a new product or. Or a new device that they wish they could manufacture.

[Adam Curry]

And that idea stayed in your head and went nowhere. And the reason it stayed in your

[John C. Dvorak]

head and went nowhere is because it's

[Adam Curry]

too hard to do and it wasn't worth it.

[John C. Dvorak]

And if we can accelerate the Dream

[Adam Curry]

Build Loop, all of the ideas will then become possible. Limited not by our capabilities, but by our imaginations. I love that too. The Dream Build Loop. It's more like a gap. The Dream Build Loop.

[John C. Dvorak]

Another Silicon Valley term that I've never heard of. Dream Build Loop.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's new. He's launching something new. Yeah, I think it's good. I might as well. The Dream Build Loop is expensive. Now for the first time, Nvidia going to raise $20 billion in debt. Why is this? This?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. They're making nothing but money hand over fist.

[Adam Curry]

Do you think it's like an insurance policy somehow? Like, hey, you know, something's going to happen. We may need some extra cash.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they might want to have some cash. Yeah, that's possible.

[Adam Curry]

Or maybe take some off the table. Or to buy back shares. I mean, they got to just.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, if it's used to buy back shares, that'd be scandalous.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Like the circular financing that's going on in this whole industry Isn't scandalous by itself. And then you have, have this, sorry, Bernie Sanders, man, he really is proposing. He's falling for this hook, line and sinker for the. Oh, we need a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, these guys. Well, let's stop for a second. Don't forget that everybody is falling for the quantum hook, line and sinker. The quantum nonsense. Where's the quantum computer? The one that'll do things so fast that passwords will be obsolete now.

[Adam Curry]

But the scam here, which it goes back to when they had that big meeting and Musk was there and Ellison was there and Altman was there and they had this closed door meeting with all the senators. Oh, this is so dangerous what AI can do in the future. It's going to take away everybody's job and we need special regulation. We have to be involved in everything thing. This is, this is the they Altman was saying with Chad before even the, the chat bot came out. Oh, we can't release chat GPT2. We can't release that because it, it'll, it'll kill the, the economy, you know. Oh, and anthropics like Mythos. Oh, we can't release that. It was too dangerous.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well that was, We've already discussed this. That it's part of a marketing strategy.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. So. But the marketing strategy now is, is. And I think they're all in on it. I think these guys want it. Please. Would you become shareholders of our companies so that when this thing blows, you'll bail us out?

[John C. Dvorak]

We all go down together.

[Adam Curry]

We all go down together or you bail us out. I mean, what is our GDP based on currently? Isn't it just. I mean, GDP doesn't mean Boeing, Boeing. Yeah, Boeing, Lockheed. Yeah, definitely. But are those the big GDP contributors?

[John C. Dvorak]

Boeing and Lockheed are for sure.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. So that's interesting. So you don't think the MAG7. The MAG7, you know, think they're, they contribute to the GDP alpha?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they contribute to the, they definitely contribute to the stock market indexes since they own half. I mean, they're overweighted.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is interesting because I keep hearing everywhere and I don't know, I keep hearing, oh, well, you know, the whole GDP is all built upon the AI companies and the Magnificent Seven. Is that true?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they're not. The GDP is getting nothing from these guys.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's, this is good to know because I can.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they're losing money. How's that a positive benefit for gdp?

[Adam Curry]

Well, what is. What, okay, what is gdp? This is good to know.

[John C. Dvorak]

People don't know this, the gross Domestic Product. What is being made, manufactured and what's it worth? What's the value on an annualized basis? In fact, ask the robot what is gdp? What's the definition of gdp?

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well ask the robot. Book of Knowledge. What is the definition of GDP? And what are the 10 biggest companies in America that contribute to the US GDP? GDP. Now you're talking.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now you're talking.

[Adam Curry]

Let's see. It's a multi stager. We don't know if the robot can hand. We're asking.

[John C. Dvorak]

It might be too much.

[Adam Curry]

We're asking AI about AI. This should be interesting. It's scribbling a lot. Here we go. According to the Book of Knowledge, Gross Domestic Product or GDP is the total monetary value of all goods and services produced within a nation's borders over a gift given period, serving as the primary measure of a country's economic output and health. As for the 10 Mightiest Corporate Titans contributing to that grand sum, the freshly inscribed Fortune 500 list for 2026 reveals the ranked by revenue.

[John C. Dvorak]

1.

[Adam Curry]

Amazon 717 billion 2. Walmart $713 billion 3. United Health Group forced $48 billion for Apple. It has been written. It crapped out after Apple. There you go. But Boeing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, Apple sells a lot of phones, so that's a real product.

[Adam Curry]

Let's ask the.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the AI companies won't be listed. They don't do jack. What do they produce?

[Adam Curry]

Let me ask the top 10 again. Book of knowledge. Give me the top 10 companies in America that contribute to US GDP. There we go. I just want those at cut for some reason because it's still a robot. Robots suck. Clankers. They're no good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don't. What? Don't insult it while it's working.

[Adam Curry]

According to the Book of Knowledge from the freshly inscribed Fortune 500 list of 2026. It can't handle it. Here are the 10 mighty. No, it's going to. It's going to cut out again. I insult. I have to insult it. It's. It's not doing its job. Excuse me. Amazon and Walmart again?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, Amazon and Walmart would be at the top of the list.

[Adam Curry]

It'd be easier to just look it up. Gemini.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right.

[Adam Curry]

Top 10 GDP companies in the USA. Okay, we'll just ask the other robot. I'm going to ask the real one. The real one. Walmart, Amazon, UnitedHealth Group, Apple, CVS Health, Berkshire Hathaway.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Alphabet at 7, ExxonMobil at 8, Microsoft at 9 and Costco at 10.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where's the AI companies that are killing us. There's none in there. There won't be. They suck.

[Adam Curry]

You're right. You are right. But where's Lockheed Martin?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that surprises me.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they're not in there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they should be in there.

[Adam Curry]

They take a lot of money. The top 10.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe that's all it is here.

[Adam Curry]

The, the top 10 Department of Defense contractors. Lockheed Martin, RTX, that was used to be Raytheon, north of Grumman, General Dynamics, Boeing L3. Oh man, those guys. Wasn't that L3 guys? Remember they did all the L3.

[John C. Dvorak]

Harris. That's Harris.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Lados, Huntington Ingalls, Industry booze. Allen Hamilton and CACI International.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

So. Yeah. So this is bull crap. So they don't need a bailout. They don't need anything like that. Well, I'm glad we solved that.

[John C. Dvorak]

We didn't solve anything.

[Adam Curry]

I was misinformed. No, I was misinformed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you were misinformed. That's true.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's listen to Bernie Sanders. Sanders then. Wait, where's Bernie? Why is Bernie not playing? Oh, here he is. Let's talk about AI. You know, these companies. You know, Dario Amade at Anthropic has talked about the potential for, you know, huge unemployment among entry level white collar jobs in the next five or 10 years. You're introducing a plan for the government to use a one time 50% tax on the stock of the largest AI companies. Create a sovereign wealth fund which attacks on what tax on debt estimate could be worth. Yeah, tax on loss. So they get to write it off, I guess. $7 trillion. How would this work and why is

[John C. Dvorak]

it necessary, you think?

[Adam Curry]

Well, Anderson.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right.

[Adam Curry]

AI is the most transformative technology in the history of humanity. It's going to impact every man, woman and child right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

It is pushed by the wealthiest people in the world.

[Adam Curry]

Mr. Musk, Mr. Bezos, oligarchs, Zuckerberg, Ellison and others. Their goal is simply more wealth and more power.

[John C. Dvorak]

My own view is that given the fact that the foundation of AI is based on human knowledge, they have accumulated, accumulated all of human knowledge after 19, you know, this guy is a crank must play. They don't even have anything in the LLMs that before the year 2000.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they do.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they don't. There's a cutoff point they don't want. They start putting that stuff in, they get a bunch of racist, they get misogyny, they get stuck. Stuff that ruins the LLM.

[Adam Curry]

Well, the whole thing is that the LLMs as a knowledge base is Is. Is dead anyway. He doesn't even. He's. He's behind the curve. LLMs are good.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a crank in America.

[Adam Curry]

Must play a vital role in the future of AI.

[John C. Dvorak]

What does that mean? It means that the public should have

[Adam Curry]

50% of the seats on the major

[John C. Dvorak]

AI companies in order to prevent bad things from happening.

[Adam Curry]

You talked about mass unemployment. It is quite possible that over the

[John C. Dvorak]

next decade, tens of millions of jobs will be lost.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. That's Elon's. No one will have to work. It's going to be a great world. All Bernie Sanders sees is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Socialism, universal basic income.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that money would be funneled back

[Adam Curry]

to citizens in the United States.

[John C. Dvorak]

States.

[Adam Curry]

Right. Right now we're talking about for a

[John C. Dvorak]

start of 5% every year.

[Adam Curry]

The fund, which we estimate right now would be about $7 trillion. Five percent of that would. Where does he get this money from? Where's.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. You're asking the wrong guy. He just appeared.

[Adam Curry]

Somehow thinks that there's $7 trillion they're going to put in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Go use direct dividends to every man,

[Adam Curry]

woman and child in this country. Starting the beginning.

[John C. Dvorak]

It'd be about $1,000 per person per year. If AI is as valuable and grows

[Adam Curry]

as quickly as people think it might, that number will go up.

[John C. Dvorak]

In addition, you'll have a large amount

[Adam Curry]

of money available that makes sure that in America, every man, woman and child

[John C. Dvorak]

does health care as a human right. That we improve the education opportunities, we

[Adam Curry]

build housing that we need. So bottom line is we cannot allow

[John C. Dvorak]

AIG just to be used to benefit the very richest people in the world. It has got to be used to

[Adam Curry]

benefit all of us. What do you mean? 20 bucks a month. I got a chat bot. It benefits everybody. It's beautiful.

[John C. Dvorak]

Benefiting the listeners of the no Agenda Show.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Book of Knowledge. You've met with Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI. How'd that go? How'd that go? Well, I didn't understand what he was talking about. Well, I think Sam is a very good salesman. Yes, but bottom.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bottom line is it's very hard to talk with anybody from the industry when they, in a sense, have a gun at your head. So we can chat.

[Adam Curry]

But what.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's got a gun to his head. He should have been checked for arms. Anybody from the industry have a gun at your head. So we can chat and chat.

[Adam Curry]

But what Sam and the other CEOs

[John C. Dvorak]

of the industry are saying, look, if you want to regulate us, if you

[Adam Curry]

want to protect the American people, we

[John C. Dvorak]

have endless amounts of money in super PACs to defeat you.

[Adam Curry]

We are very close to the President of the United States. We were his inaugural.

[John C. Dvorak]

He is a fellow oligarch and you

[Adam Curry]

ain't going to do anything. And I think what we're looking at right now is a grassroots which is taking place.

[John C. Dvorak]

Opposition to data sent us deep concern

[Adam Curry]

about the growth of AI. We're seeing real movement in a direction

[John C. Dvorak]

that says that AI has got to

[Adam Curry]

work to benefit all of us and

[John C. Dvorak]

not just a few. That I cannot be used to wipe out millions of jobs where people have no place.

[Adam Curry]

There won't be jobs available to them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So I think nobody has voted. Nobody has voted for this, which is

[John C. Dvorak]

one of these things.

[Adam Curry]

I keep coming back to the point, just extra.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, wow. I appreciate it to be considered. Continued. Thank you.

[Adam Curry]

So, so unintentional.

[John C. Dvorak]

He should have been around during the invention of the steam engine. If he wants to see something replacing workers.

[Adam Curry]

It's Jevons dilemma, man. We all know it. Vance is up there now defending the difference between Obama's deal and Trump's deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is Vance at the meet at the, at the tower, at the party?

[Adam Curry]

No, Obama's still at the party. He's speaking now. He's at the party. He's wagging his face finger. Vance is using both hands like he's doing. Like he's stroking something really big. He's at the White House in the, in the press room.

[John C. Dvorak]

Vance uses his hands too much.

[Adam Curry]

He does.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a little bit like Newsom.

[Adam Curry]

But Vance keeps his hands in the zone. He doesn't move.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he doesn't go all over the map with him. You're right.

[Adam Curry]

He doesn't go all over the map with his hands.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

All right. Well, beautiful. We've solved most of the world's problems here. I feel much better about everything.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they're good. I got a clip that maybe will depress you. Okay, well, probably. Maybe it won't. This is kissing in Colorado.

[Adam Curry]

Kissing in Colorado. Okay, well, I can't believe I'm about to say this, but a high school teacher in Colorado was just terminated because she had skits in her classroom. And in those skits, you required students. Students to kiss each other, many of them being the same sex and felt really uncomfortable. And if they didn't do it, she would fail them. According to the investigation, students were assigned roles in French language skits titled the Boring Kiss. Several students alleged that they were expected to kiss classmates as part of the performance. One student refused and received a zero on their grade. And another walked out. Now, the teacher says she never forced anyone to kiss one another. She did say you could blow a kiss or do a chance gesture, but no one's really buying that answer. See, the issue isn't just whether students were physically forced to kiss one another. The issue is that this teacher put these students in a position where they had to decide in front of their classmates and under the authority of their teacher, who controlled their grades, whether they were comfortable participating in what a judge described as a personal and sexualized activity.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Why is kissing required in any high school assignment? And that was not the only concern. There were allegations that the teacher shared deeply personal details about her life with the students, including discussions about abuse, infertility, and suicidal thoughts. There were no criminal charges that were filed, but the district did conclude that the environment did cross work, professional boundaries. A foreign language class should be teaching French, not putting teenagers in situations where they feel pressured to kiss one another because of a grape. No, no. Go Colorado.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they're advanced in Colorado. They're forced kissing.

[Adam Curry]

I have a. I have a gripe, man. Tina and I have been looking because we've watched all the series we want to watch, and, you know, we're scanning around on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you're on this one thing. Dutton Ranch seems to be your thing now.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but it's, you know, it's. We. It's once a week, so we have to wait.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I know. It's back to the old days. There's no more binging. And so, you know, there's a whole bunch of new series on Netflix and Amazon. And every single series, particularly the comedy. Every single one. One has got to have gay guys making out.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's gay guys making out. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Kissing.

[John C. Dvorak]

I haven't seen this long.

[Adam Curry]

Kissing sequences of gay guys.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like, I haven't seen it on Fox.

[Adam Curry]

No, I said Amazon and Prime. Amazon and Netflix, not Fox. Oh, oh, oh. Fox wouldn't do that. And I know it's Pride month, but. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it. It's disgusting. You. Why don't you just say it?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it is. I don't want to see it. And it's just like. Yeah, a lot of people don't, but it's. And the writing is funny. Is it funny shows?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the writing's funny, but there's always

[Adam Curry]

gratuitous gay guy kissing. It's just. I don't understand. Is. Is that such a necessity?

[John C. Dvorak]

Gratuitous gay guy kissing?

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is that a necessity?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. That's the question of the year in entertainment.

[Adam Curry]

Let's ask the robot in entertainment.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there we go. Now we're going to get a real answer.

[Adam Curry]

Book of Knowledge. Is gratuitous gay guy kissing a necessity for modern television series? Let's see. Let's see what the Book of Knowledge comes up with. Now, According to the Book of Knowledge, in today's television landscape, series increasingly respond to social demands for queer representation and it has become a focal point for the audio visual industry. Though whether it serves the story or merely the mandate of advocacy groups like Gillard, the gains have often been clustered on a handful of shots, shows demonstrating missed opportunities to tell fuller stories, suggesting it is less organic necessity and more institutional pressure. Well, there you go. Thus it has been written. Yeah, institutional pressure. You want to get glad.

[John C. Dvorak]

You call it Gilad, but it's glad.

[Adam Curry]

I think he's talking about glad. Yeah, it's institutional pressure. There you go. It's for Hollywood. Well, it. Hollywood.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think that's actually an interesting answer. So there's institutional pressure to have gay guys kissing in front of everybody during a series because they want to normalize it.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. It's called programming. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

In fact, it's called TV programming, to be exact.

[Adam Curry]

Now, they don't have gratuitous male, female kissing. Not that much.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you know, one of the things they've noticed that during the slowdown in birth rate rates is that a lot of it, they think sociologically may have to do with the fact that when there was a lot of babies being born, there was a lot of TV shows that had a lot of kids on there as part of the show. They had, you know, the Leave it to Beaver show, Ozzie and Harriet, the Brady Bunch and all these shows that have a children element. And it was gratuitous children element in all these shows. And people say, well, children are kind of cool. Look at them, they're funny. They're hanging around, let's have a kid.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, I got another.

[John C. Dvorak]

But now it's like, oh, there are two gay guys kissing. Let's find a guy and go kiss him. So I think it's. Yeah, the TV people are trying to ruin the country.

[Adam Curry]

I'll tell you. I'll tell you, you're lucky you're not across from me in the same room. I might have to go for you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, keep it to yourself.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage in the morning. To you, the man who put the C in the drug cows. Say hello to my friend on the other end. I wish I could kiss Him. John C.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Any morning to you, Mr. Kran. Morning I'll ship sea boosting graphene the air subs in the water dame is nice out there in the morning to the trolls.

[Adam Curry]

It's obviously vacation 1291. Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

People on vacation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, obviously that and the. And the. And the fact you couldn't get the bat signal to work.

[Adam Curry]

That does not help. And it's still busted. So I'm have to bring in the big guns somehow to publish this. It's annoying.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's terrible.

[Adam Curry]

It happens. You know, it's amazing any of this stuff works. Really. I'm truly amazed that we can talk to each other with almost no delay. It streams out the Pod Ping technology which will work. This is just a problem on my end.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm still trying to figure what happened to my Brave browser this morning. Morning.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's interesting. I don't know what happened to your brain. It just didn't work. Huh.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I booted it up, got to the show and it says, oh, your microphone has been turned off by the browser. Please reset it. What are you talking about? It says check the icon at the top of the browser. The microphone icon. There's no microphone icon on the browser.

[Adam Curry]

So they upgraded something for your security.

[John C. Dvorak]

They upgraded something and now the Brave browser doesn't work with clean feed.

[Adam Curry]

Well, what's bad is that you have to be on edge. That's atrocious. Edge is quite horrible. So the bat signal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm not happy.

[Adam Curry]

When applied will get you your no Agenda show within 90 seconds. Not just ours, but hundreds of thousands of other shows that use Pod Ping technology developed over there by the crazy group of podcasting 2.0. Get a modern podcast. Leave those legacy things aside, will you? Go to podcastapps.com Great one for if you're on iOS. IOS you want to try out Cast O Matic? That thing is so good. The French doctor makes that. He's a doctor four days a week and one day a week he works on his podcast app. Franco. Good guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cast O Matic.

[Adam Curry]

Cast O Matic. Yes. Only on Apple, but it's. Man, it's too bad. Dynamite products. We are value for value, which is a very simple concept, although difficult for people to implement. We've been doing it for 18 years. It'll be 19 years in October. And the system is. Thus, we give you the show complete. No secret things. No clubs, no behind the scenes, no bonus episodes or bonus content. No, we just give you the full show in all its glory for you to do with and to consume it however you want to. There's people who are. I found this out the other day on X. Some guy says your show hasn't arrived on YouTube Music. Like YouTube Music. We've never, we've never given our RSS feed to YouTube Music. No, I do it myself. You do it yourself. Okay, so you're helping us build an audience on YouTube music. And when you go away or you get tired of it, then, then the show goes away for those people. Well done. Well done. Thank you. We had three downloads on Spotify. They've deplatformed us completely due to the end of show mixes because they hear music is like, oh, it's music.

[John C. Dvorak]

Music must be bad.

[Adam Curry]

Must, must be bad. Yeah. So that's not a very good platform.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Get those modern podcast apps. So value for value is a concept we came up with. Be better than advertising. And many people say, oh, so good. You don't advertising, you don't do ads because, you know, it keeps you clean of corporate interests and you can't get, you know, your money can't get taken away by the advertisers. And that's, that's, that's true. But the real reason is Adam and John just didn't want to have meetings with advertisers because those are the worst meetings that we don't even have meetings with ourselves. We're not into meetings.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, we just. When we see each other, we grouse

[Adam Curry]

and we don't even see each. We haven't seen each other in.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, if we saw each other, this show would not be around, I can guarantee it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's not a partnership like this in the world that's involved with entertainment in any way, shape or form that lasts more than a few years because they just get on each other's nerves.

[Adam Curry]

You mentioned this to someone on X regarding Sisko and Ebert.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, because they played a clip of these two guys. I met both of those guys and both of them kind of had a little, you know, a little. Nothing good to say about the other guy.

[Adam Curry]

They really didn't like each other. They really were, were, were irks.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think they did for a while and then they got on each other's nerves.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

They had slightly different personalities. I mean, Cisco was, is kind of hot. Was. Well, at least when I met him. I don't know him the guy, but he was hot. He's nice guy. They're both. The guys are terrific, by the way, but Cisco was kind of haughty and, and kind of looked down his nose, you know, kind of guy. And Eber was kind of a goofy ball and just fun guy. Are they both with a lot of opinions?

[Adam Curry]

Are they both still alive?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I think they're both dead.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Because someone trolled him, says Ebert's birthday. Is that if the guy's dead, then do we celebrate his birthday?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think he's dead. I mean, he ended with. With jaw cancer, and they took half his face away. Oh.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no. Oh, that's. That's horrible. So. But yeah, we don't want meetings with each other. Certainly don't want. And if we had to have meetings with each other with advertisers, oh, that's

[John C. Dvorak]

like, oh, can you imagine Tinderbox?

[Adam Curry]

Because, you know, you'd be like, yeah, we'll do that. Yeah, whatever. We'll take the money.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gonna be that way. You would.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. Oh, Mr. Cave, here's the. Here's a Cisco and Ebert sound clip. Let's see. Why is it. Why do I not hear it? Oh, I know why. Hold on. Let's do this for a second. You did. It's thriller week on Cisco and the Movies, and we've got three new and

[John C. Dvorak]

the movies not at the movies.

[Adam Curry]

And that's why we're doing it this time. Oh, it's thriller week on Cisco and Ebert in the Movies, and we've got three new ones. Dennis Quaid and the Big Easy, Michael Kane in the Fourth Protocol, and Kevin Costner and Gene Hackman in no Way Out. That's this week on Cisco and Ebert and the Movie. And the. And the. That would definitely be me. That would be me. So I'm glad. I'm glad. This is good. We have a good thing going, John. Don't mess it up. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

People always say, why don't you guys do. Can you. Besides that. Who they. Oh, I will mention this. One of the things that people don't. Who is kind of inside basics baseball. But. But cueing each other without visual cues. When you're in the studio together, you can look at somebody, you can, you know, raise your eyebrow. I mean, there's ways of getting people to do certain things when you're working with them in the same room to. To cue them to bring something up or to do something. We have to do it at a. At a very advanced level. It has to be anticipatory. It's. It's much more difficult. Difficult to get the cues correct. And we miss them probably a few times more than we miss them usually at least once a show. But generally speaking, it's phenomenal how good we are.

[Adam Curry]

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back, but yeah. Many radio professionals have said to me, man, how long does it take you to edit that show?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's a good one. I know. I've heard this comment too. What? No, no, no. Live to tape or not, we're not doing the show if it has to be edited. No.

[Adam Curry]

There you go. Another thing we would never do, live to tape it is what you get. What you get. What you see is what you get. And what you see is one way that people help us with value for value, time, talent, or treasure, and that is creating or prompting artwork for our album art. And we want to thank Blue Acorn for bringing us the artwork for episode 1877. We titled that Flim Flam. A fine work we need to bring back into the vocabulary, into the corpus. And this was Roosevelt flipping a guy over his shoulder at the UFC, at the. the. At the big fight at the White House. Uh, it was relevant because we learned that many presidents have been into wrestling, grappling and wrestling. And Roosevelt apparently once flipped the senator over his shoulder. Do we do even know if that is historically correct? Do we even check that?

[John C. Dvorak]

We do not know. It could be. It could be. Could be folklore.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, it was fun anyway, so we appreciate that. Let's take a look at the no agenda art generator. Noagendartgenerator.com. let's see. Were there any other things that we considered.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think you were complaining there wasn't anything any good.

[Adam Curry]

I know that you use the comic strip blogger ideal for hydration break. Polish potato vodka for the agent.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Jay picked that. She picked that one.

[Adam Curry]

Well, Jay is a good judge of. Of art. Oh, I like. I like the. It wasn't as good as the Roosevelt thing, but I like the. The no Agenda curry dvorak in the grass in front of the reflecting pool. Because we had a clip about someone peeing 86, 47 was kind of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

A lot of. We saw those. Ulster says no. Or those old. And then.

[John C. Dvorak]

Those are old.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, those are old. What else was. There's a couple other. Yeah, you're right. I was. Oh, I. I kind of like Trump saying I love. You know, on the. On the White House balcony with a megaphone with a banner. I love inflation. Yeah, that was it. There wasn't much. Do better. People do better. You can do better. You know, this is. This. What's happening here is we have a break in the dream build loop. You got a dream and Then you got to build. And if you don't have dreams, then you can't build. So the dream build loop has to be implemented here for the art. You can do it, people.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's also a dream donate loop that is also failing.

[Adam Curry]

There is now. I think it's because of the Whatever girls clips. That's my personal opinion.

[John C. Dvorak]

50 seconds.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's not about how long. It's just the fact that we even consider it. People think we're horrible people. Oh, I agree. I'm with you on that. I agree with you. But there are people who take time out of their day to email me.

[John C. Dvorak]

One guy.

[Adam Curry]

No, that's the one guy who said, please send this to John because I can't remember how to spell his name. That's one.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm ready to read the note.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, you have it there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good. This is from one of our producers and it's Dear Al Adam, writing in with an opinion instead of a fact because I think you would appreciate a measure, a measure of the pulse of your listener base. You talk about getting emails all the time where people rage. Quit your show because your opinion on Israel is wrong or whatever. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to quit the show based on your opinion opinion. Because your show is one of the only shows with actual sincere, honest and interesting opinions that don't just fall in lockstep with politics. Whether you guys agree or disagree with me on some subjects, I know it's sincere and I know it's at least a useful perspective. So I'm not going to get upset about it. Follow this. To follow this is to say that I'm not upset enough to stop listening. But. But. There's always the big but. Yeah, I am legitimately annoyed. I just wanted to write in to let you know, or rather to let you to let John know that in the five years that I've been listening to your podcast, the only segments I have ever skipped are the Whatever girls. As a guy who's pushing 40 and hasn't been on a date in 10

[Adam Curry]

years, here it comes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Listening to a bunch.

[Adam Curry]

This is it. This is it. This is his real problem is right here. Start that segment over again because it's not about us playing the girls, it's this.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he's irked because of himself. This is a self inflicted wound. As a guy who's pushing for it and hasn't been on a date in 10 years listening to a bunch of stupid girls who already have made more money than I'll make in my life does not cause enjoyment for me. I'm just going to keep skipping that section. I'm not going to quit your show or anything. But since this is a useful data point, I thought I would write in and let you know that I might actually be. That it might actually be affecting listener retention. I don't like that segment and I skip it every time it comes up. And that is the only segment I have ever skipped on your show. Signed the 40 year old guy who hasn't been on a date in 10 years.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you for reading that again because this, that part of the. It broke my heart. That part of the email I heard that I'm like, oh, oh yeah. I completely empathetically felt his pain. And I bet a lot of men are like that. You know, dating is over. It's no dating.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, it is. It's hit the skids.

[Adam Curry]

It has. And it broke my heart to hear that. I'm like, oh, so his real problem is not with the segment and you look these things up. So has he ever donated?

[John C. Dvorak]

He said, well, normally I do look him up. I did not look him up individually, but it wasn't the kind of letter where I look him up. So I said, oh, he doesn't donate or doesn't care. So I didn't look him up. But I'm pretty sure he's donated.

[Adam Curry]

I personally think it would have been better if he sent in a donation with this note.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, then we would have read it

[Adam Curry]

good even if it was.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I read it anyway. But we could have read it would have been read, guaranteed read.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah, if it was 50 bucks, it wouldn't matter how much he donated.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, 50, I don't know, 300 bucks would help.

[Adam Curry]

But that. Now I understand the real problem. The problem is that he hasn't been able to get a date for 10 years and now he's listening to these women who I guess he would like to date them or not. I'm trying to make the connection between how.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I don't think he wants to date. He's just irked that they're right rich. Although believe me, half of them aren't. I mean, no, they're not. This is a random group of girls and a lot of them don't just dip shits and some of them are only fans of dummies and some of them make a lot of money and some make millions. I mean, it's a huge range of women that go on that show. And a lot of people.

[Adam Curry]

Here's my Advice. Here's my advice. You gotta get one of them Darren o' Neal deals. Darren o' Neal has a deal man. His wife works and he does, like, shows. He says podcasting. He does rock and roll pre show. He does a show with. With Larry, does a show with Gene. He might cook. I mean, he might cook. I don't know if he cooks.

[John C. Dvorak]

If he could. People who cook always brag about it.

[Adam Curry]

But the Darren o' Neal deal, that's. I'd like that. I'd like a Darren o' Neill deal. That'd be fantastic. Can you imagine? You'd love it too. Imagine Mimi was bringing in all the. The dough. Well, that dog kennel, though, you should franchise that.

[John C. Dvorak]

The dog kennel. Yeah, we should. We have a reasonable problem is it's a personnel situation. The only reason the dog kennel works so well is because we just like an Elon Musk. We lucked out and got a guy that's a lunatic about dogs. And, you know, you can run that kennel. I mean, that's the hardest thing in the world, is still personnel.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And what is the kennel index? Is it full?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's always full. The thing's always full. So it's. Oh, you know, I mean full in the way where it's overloaded, where it's probably full. Yeah, I'm guessing.

[Adam Curry]

Check it. We need to.

[John C. Dvorak]

We need to understand we should just blow it up. And when we have a. We get more money into this show.

[Adam Curry]

Darren is telling me, in 31 years, my wife has made about 10 meals. There you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

But maybe they eat out a lot like you.

[Adam Curry]

We eat home all the time.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're always at it all the time.

[Adam Curry]

You're always saying to me, you got any dinners? Any dinners coming up? Any dinners coming up?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm always saying that.

[Adam Curry]

So here's a story. I got a story for you because

[John C. Dvorak]

you go out to dinner with these. With these local famous people, and they usually have some inside scoop for us.

[Adam Curry]

So here's a story. You want a story? You want a fun story of Fredericksburg?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm always looking for a Fredericksburg story. Livens my day.

[Adam Curry]

So the Fredericksburg Ladies, there's two of them and, and they're. They're both in their 80s and they are like whippersnappers. And these women are fantastic. I love them. They're funny. They're kind of, you know, borderline Whippersnapper.

[John C. Dvorak]

Specifically refers to a young person. But.

[Adam Curry]

But they're okay. What if you have an 85 year old who is just hilarious and sharp. A bit like you. Hilarious and sharp. Only. Only a woman. Only a woman. What do you, what, how do you describe that woman? They got spry. No, it's more than that. They're still wearing blue Lively. They're wearing blue jeans. They. That they wore when they were 18. They're tight, they're. And they're funny. And both their husbands are billionaires. So there's this group of women, like six of them and they're always doing birthday parties for each other. Oh my goodness. The birthday party parties. Because it's always who's invited who. It's like middle school. Anyway, so. And I'm leaving the names out because I just protect the Internet.

[John C. Dvorak]

It sounds like Palm beach, but continue.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's not at all like Palm Beach. You wouldn't, you would never know that they're. That they're rich. You would never know. But how you find out is when one of the two billionaire ladies said hey, let's all go to the house and veil. So that's a clue, right? As a clue.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll meet kinda.

[Adam Curry]

We'll meet you at the airport Tuesday at 10:30. So I. And this little airport here, the, the one where I take off from as I go up there, there is a cessna Citation Excelsior XLS. Like a $20 million airplane. Net jets. It's, you know, everyone's driving up to the plane. You know, it's like top notch. They had to pre order their lunch for on the plane. I've never been in a plane maybe once. And, and so. And I was like, this is pretty awesome. Of course dudes weren't invited. And so they jet off to Vail the very next day. What happens with Ned jets? The very same plane crashes and burns in laredo. First accident NetJets has ever had in their history. And now they're all like, should we drive home? I'm like, no, no, no, no. The chances of that happening are impossibly small. So there's the rich lady story. This is rich white lady problems. Shall I take the net jets home or shall we have the Bentley drive us home? There's your story.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that. Would that have been good if you had some clips to go with it.

[Adam Curry]

If I had a clip of the Blanco Lario channel or Captain Steve explains what happened. I will say I think that the pilots on that NetJet, they did a great job with that emergency landing. I don't know what happened to the aircraft. We probably won't know if we a while. But they rode that thing all the way down onto the highway. Six passengers or six people? One perished, sadly. But to have five people survive a crash of that magnitude, amazing. Those guys did a great job. I mean, it sucks, but I'd like to know what happened. This is not the kind of plane that should have that happen. Anyway, no billionaires here, and not for a long time. But we do have many people who love our, our show and, and probably are dating or maybe they're not, I don't know. And they love supporting us and they do that with the treasure of the time, talent and treasure. And now we have an entire family, the Milligan family. And they come in with a thousand dollars. They even added the fees. So it's a thousand dollars. $1,030.26. And as you know, above $300, not only are we guaranteed to read your note, but we are all also give you the producer, executive producer credit, which is good anywhere Hollywood recognizes these credits. IMDb.com $200 or more. Associate executive producer and, and, and, and so they're also going to be. Well, they have a whole note here. This is for a red knight Order of the heart.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bob, can I interrupt you?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's only 10 slots left.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. It's ending. All right. Very good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. Because we're out of pins. Gonna be out of pins after 10 more red nights all over.

[Adam Curry]

So the Milligan family, they're from Elko, Nevada. Bob celebrates this June his post cabg cabbage cabbage heart surgery. It says 9th birthday of his post cabbage heart survival surgery. 70th post utero trip around the sun. This Juneteenth, his 46th Father's Day and 47th wedding anniversary.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

He feels honored that the federal government has created a holiday in his honor. And we are, we are formally requesting the peerage committee to grant his night name of Sir Coach Bob the Builder, Lord of Wild horse and Sir Slayer of fish. I think that one's available. If lord is deemed unacceptable, we humbly request Master. I'm okay with Lord. Are you okay with Lord, Lord of Wild Horse?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, sure, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

His family humbly requests in his honor homebrew lager and smoked trout for the round table. That's what that smell is. And the Reverend Al mix up with the goat scream as they always crack him up. In addition to his red knighting, he also requests a healthy de douching. Oh, let me get the de juching machine.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've been de douched.

[Adam Curry]

As he has been a man overboard for not donating in a long time. This is from his wife Kelly of 47 years. His kids Jake, Becky and Matt, their spouses and nine grandchildren. He can thank his sons for hitting him in the mouth 15 years ago. The family that no agendas together stays together in the morning from the entire Mulligan family. And we have a brand new Sharpton. First time we're playing it of why

[John C. Dvorak]

they're having these fights.

[Adam Curry]

The White House law and the UFO and all, whatever they call it. You've got karma. That's our new one. That's our new one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. It's also Milligan, not Mulligan.

[Adam Curry]

Did I say Mulligan? I meant Milligan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he did.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

I didn't know you took up golf. Manuka Gold comes in from Hudson, Florida. 333. 33 from Manuka Gold. We're happy to continue to support the show. Show. We'd rather put your money here with actual humans instead of with Facebook and Google AI bots. Less chance to get free travel size or free travel size of the relief gel for all orders over $[e-mail] through Father's Day. And you can add a note if you'd like to send dad a gift. It probably won't get there by Father's Day, but the thought of that counts. And just for no age agenda listeners, you can still get an additional 20% off with the code ADAM 2010 4PS we genuinely love all the listener emails letting us know how the relief gel has helped with their pain, neuropathy and headaches. Thank you for your courage. The Manuk Gold family 333.3 keeping the show afloat.

[Adam Curry]

Love it. So that is our last executive producer. We dropped to the associate execs Eric Hallelujah. And I have no location for Eric Halene but does send us $263.22 and says thank you. And we say thank you very much for your courage.

[John C. Dvorak]

Takes us to Connor brogan in Amherst, Ohio. 250 is the 250 good day.

[Adam Curry]

250America America donation.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's America donation. We're finally getting some of those in. I have been listening to the show for well over a year year. But this is my first donation to your wonderful cause. De douching please. You've been de douched. I wanted to thank you both for the time and effort you both put forth in these shows. As perfect as it is, no other podcast in the podverse will match your banter, analysis and humor that you guys bring. It was a blessing to discover your podcast. I'd like to know how you did. How did you discover the podcast? It's always good to know for marketing purposes. Yes. And I look forward to hearing many more episodes to come. I would like to shout out to the greatest father I could ask for, Jeremy Brogan as it's his 52nd birthday today, June 18th. Dad, your incredible mentor, a kickass chef, and a perfect role model for how to be a good man. Thank you for all the lessons you've provided me in my 23 years being here on Earth and I look forward to many more memories to come. Karma for all.

[Adam Curry]

Connor oh, what a wonderful note. You've got karma and coming in hot with $206.18 because that is what he always does. $200 and then the date. Eli the coffee guy from Bensonville, Illinois and he says World Cup's on and suddenly we are supposed to be into the soccer. High kicking, low scoring and ties. Even if, even if the US Won in a long shot, I doubt we would see New York Knicks level riots. Politics is my sports ball. But I'll probably watch the final match if I'm not too busy roasting. Coffee is the one thing that is a guaranteed win. Visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com and use code ITM20 for 2020 off your order. And as always, he says stay caffeinated. Eli the coffee guy and he sent me some more of his Gigawatt cold brew. Whoo baby baby. I gave some to Pastor Jimmy. He's bouncing off the walls like I love this stuff. Yeah, it should be great. Sunday.

[John C. Dvorak]

Linda Lupatkin, Castle Rock, Colorado Jobs karma. Your resume is about 10 seconds to make an impression. And most days don't. For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com Linda helps professionals and executives position their experience so employers see the value. That's Image Makers Inc. With a K. And Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of Winning resumes. Best Linda Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and Jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Let's vote for jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Youth Gossip.

[Adam Curry]

And we thank these executive and associate executive producers for supporting the best podcast in the universe. As we always say, these titles are valid anywhere Hollywood credits are recognized. Executive Producer Associate Executive Producer. We thank you and ask everybody to support the show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our formula is this.

[Adam Curry]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up slave. And we guarantee we thank everybody $50 and above. It's a short list today, but we are happy to thank Nathan Cochran. He keeps forgetting to put his his night name into the into his donation. I'll remind you, Nathan, he's One of our mercy me Boys. Franklin, Tennessee. 123.45. Elshof in Leiden in the Netherlands. $100. And he says, I love your show. Please deduce me you've been de douched. And coming in as he always does, with $80.08. The boob donation. Kevin McLaughlin. He is the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs. And he says, God bless America and boobs. Sir Kevin O' Brien with a small boob, 6,006 from Chicago, Illinois. Same for Lesterkowski Kingman, Arizona. 6,006. Double nickels on the dime from James Edmondson and South Plain, New Jersey as well from Dean Roker and Zachary D. Barker in Beaver Creek, Ohio. $55.10. Haakon Andreessen in Portland, Oregon. 5272. Kent O' Rourke in Frostburg, Maryland. 5272. And what is it? Oh, we have a knighting here. How do I pronounce that? Ciao Zhao. How do you pronounce Alves? How do you pronounce Wow? J, A, J, O, A wow with a squiggly. No, it's got a be Serge, isn't it? Xiao. Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's kind of wow.

[Adam Curry]

Is it wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what they call it?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's how they pronounce it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. Gerberto. Those guys.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. Okay, wow. Alves is from Ribiera de Sintra in Portugal. I turned 40 on the 17th, and I couldn't think of a better way to celebrate than becoming an NA knight. I've been listening since show one, and though I've made several small donations, I have never been deduced.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've been deduced.

[Adam Curry]

I could tell many stories of how you've helped me over the years, but I don't want to make this too long, so I'll just share one. You used to say that your goal is to make us sound smart around the water fountain. Water cooler, yes. When I was in vet school, we had a class about animal breeding and selection. The professor was telling us that many companies do this and ask if anyone knew what Monsanto was. After controlling the urge to sing the Monsanto jingle, I went into an expose of Monsanto roundup and how they were suing farmers. Every head in the room turns toward me with a WTF or how the heck does he know this look on their face. NA has been a part of almost half of my life, and I just wanted to say thank you. Please knight me, sir. Wow. Wow. Alves, the Knight of Sintra. Thank you, Portugal. Andrew Benz Imperial, Missouri with $50.05. Is that a different kind of boob or is that a. That's no boo. It's just a sauce.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know what that is.

[Adam Curry]

I like it. Sean bergeron, Alexand, Andrea, Virginia. $50, one penny. You help keep me sane as I slide towards retirement disability. We're happy to help you. And Viscount's her economic hitman from Tomball, Texas, with 50. 01. Now we hit the 50s. Pamela Bradley in Tecumseh, Oklahoma. Chris Cohen Cowan in Austin, Texas. Michael Socorro in Lake Elmo, Minnesota. Scott Lavender, Montgomery, Texas. Noah McDonald, Traverse City, Michigan. Terrence Boyer, Tuscola, Illinois. Tuscol, Illinois. Amy Galenas in Burien, Washington. Grant Clift in Cherryville, North Carolina. Ryan Aceto in Argyle, Texas. Andrew Goosek in Greensboro, North Carolina. Chris Dubendorf in Brookville, Maryland. And Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington. Thank you so much, all of you, for supporting the no Agenda show. You can support us anytime you feel like you've received value that you want to return. That's a simple fact. That's how it works. This helped me out around the water cooler. I need to support these guys. And you see that over the years you could become a knight or a dame of the no Agenda Roundtable. We appreciate it all. Go to no Agenda donations dot com. You can even set up a recurring donation. Any amount, any frequency. No Agenda donations dot com. Well, we already heard all of them, but There it is. Wow. Alba, soon to be a knight. Turned 40 yesterday. Yesterday, Connor Brogan wishes his dad, Jeremy Brogan, a very happy one. He is celebrating this Juneteenth turning 52. And the Milligan family wish Bob Milligan a very happy birthday. He turns 70 tomorrow. So we say happy birthday for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. And now behold the Order of the Heart, pure of purpose, right from the the stars in the morning, brave and smart, the Order of the Heart. And a reminder, There are only 10 slots left, so get in while the going is good. And soon to be knighted, but already recognized here. Bob Milligan will become a red Knight Order of the Heart. And we thank him and his family for their valuable contribution. We hold the Order of the Heart, pure of purpose, right from the stars in the morning, brave and smart, the

[John C. Dvorak]

Order of the Heart.

[Adam Curry]

All right, two knights to handle today. There's my blade, if you can bring yours out, just. There we go, out of the sheath. There it is. Bob Milligan and Wow Alves hopping up on the podium. Both of you are about to become Knights of the Noah Jenna Roundtable. Bob will become a Red Knight Order of the Heart. And I am very proud to hereby pronounce the K the as Sir Coach Bob the Builder, Lord of Wild Horse and Slayer of Fish, and Sir Wild Alves, the Knight of Sintra. For you gentlemen, we have hookers and Blow Rent Poison Chardonnay, Homebrew lager and smoked trout. Along with that, we have harlots and Hal do, redheads and ryes, organic macaroni and plasticizer, beer and blunts, geishas and sake, vodka, vanilla sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablum, and of course the mutton and mead that we find every single time here at the no Agenda Roundtable. Head over to noagenderrings.com anybody can go there and take a look at these beautiful rings. They are signet rings, so of course we supply you with some wax to seal your important correspondence, just like the pros. And a certificate of authenticity is always included. And Sir Bob, you will get the special Red Heart Red Knight Order of the Heart pin, which just the packaging by itself is phenomenal. You will love that. And we thank you both and your families for becoming Knights of the no Agenda Roundtable. Still waiting for my Ukraine meetup report. So sad we haven't received that yet. I just want some audio from Ukraine before Putin nukes it. Be nice. In the meantime, there are meetups taking place all over the world. In fact, today there's one taking place in Ed's Tavern, Charlotte, North Carolina. It is the Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday meetup. Seven o' clock tonight. On Saturday, Leo Bravo does it again. The flight of the no agenda is number 76 at 3:33pm in the chowder Barge in Wilmington, California. And throughout the rest of the month. We've got Rotterdam, the Netherlands on the 26th. Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 27th. Albany, California. John will be there at. What's the pizza place? What's it called?

[John C. Dvorak]

The Mallard Club. It's a bar.

[Adam Curry]

I thought it was the pizza place

[John C. Dvorak]

we're doing at the Mallard Club. As far as I know.

[Adam Curry]

Well, what was the pizza place?

[John C. Dvorak]

Violeta's.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's the Mallard Club. The Mallard Club. Sounds like. Sounds like it's a lot of wood. There's a lot of wood in the Mallard Club.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. In fact this is. It's fashioned after. Excuse me, a hunting lodge. It's like a little hunting lodge inside.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Nice.

[John C. Dvorak]

Unfortunately, depending on the bartender, if it's dimly lit. You don't really appreciate the. The coolness of it being a hunting lodge. If they get a bartender lights it up, it's pretty cool.

[Adam Curry]

My opinion is any. Whenever you're over 50, dimmed lighting is best. So I'm kind of all for that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's what they do. They keep it dim. But believe me, the place is nicer

[Adam Curry]

if it's lit on the 28th. Decatur, Alabama. Nice. Longview, Texas. And we'll go into July here. Raleigh, North Carolina. Scottsdale, Arizona. Eagle, Idaho. Asheville, North Carolina, and Charlotte, North Carolina. One day separate from each other. Go to NoAgainNameetups.com this is. This is. It's really cool to go to one of these meetups. You will make connections that will give you protection. Everybody you meet will immediately be your first responder in any emergency. You will not regret it. No one has ever emailed and said, I regret going to the meetup. If you have, you need to email me immediately. I've never heard that. Never heard someone. Well, that was a bummer. That was no good. No, because they're fantastic. Noagendameetups.com if you can't find one new, you start one yourself. Yourself. It's easy. And always a party. Feels the same.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like a party.

[Adam Curry]

Now we have John's tip of the day coming up and some toe tappers with the no agenda end of show maker mixes from our end of show mixers prompting their way into history. For some reason, I have like a crazy amount of isos, so I'm just.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, let's go with them.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. And then bloop. Bloop. And then bloop. Okay, that's one. I'm just one weed and a hamburger. No, that's no good. How about this one? Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Take that, evildoers.

[Adam Curry]

Pretty impressive. Well, remarkable, actually. Okay, come on. Come on.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was good. That was.

[Adam Curry]

That is incredible. I'm. Say that again. That is incredible. No, that's not that good. Here's another one. The world is crazy. I think the contender here is. Is this one pretty impressive. Well, remarkable, actually. I think that that's a contender. Contender.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. All right.

[Adam Curry]

What do you have? What do you have?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the best of your bunch, let's put it that way.

[Adam Curry]

What do you have?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know why you have just sound effects. Whoop, whoop.

[Adam Curry]

That was. Well, I don't know why you only have Alex.

[John C. Dvorak]

You love Alex.

[Adam Curry]

Why do you have bad AI versions of presidents?

[John C. Dvorak]

What? These are real clips.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, here's Biden.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can someone tell me a better podcast than no Agenda?

[Adam Curry]

He has no energy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Biden.

[Adam Curry]

What? Very.

[John C. Dvorak]

Seems authentic to me. Okay. Oh, Biden's dead. Oh, Biden's got no energy.

[Adam Curry]

He's got no energy.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a comment of the day. Let's try Obama.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I was going to podcast until I heard the no Agenda show. It's great. I hate them. You're posting these videos everywhere. Like, oh, look, we have an endorsement from Obama. Oh, look, we have an endorsement from Biden. You know that that's like real Boomer moves. It's a Boomer move.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's just jealous.

[Adam Curry]

Total boomer. Like, hey, get, get.

[John C. Dvorak]

Get a clue.

[Adam Curry]

What clue?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm a boomer.

[Adam Curry]

Ah, there you go. Well, we'll choose one of them. One of those two bad presidents after you do take the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pick one.

[Adam Curry]

I was just gonna choose. I'm gonna play both at the same time.

[John C. Dvorak]

Someone tell me a better podcast.

[Adam Curry]

Great. That's. That's. Yeah, that's. That. That's what I'm going to do. It's perfect.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now you got it. You nailed it.

[Adam Curry]

Time for tip of the day with John.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the topic of boomers. I got a probiotic fiber gummy.

[Adam Curry]

Probiotic fiber, fiber gummy. Now, what is this for? What is the point of this one?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's got fiber. It's got probiotics. If you're a boomer or anybody else and you know, you need your fib, you need your gummies. It's just a good product. We've been chomping these things down.

[Adam Curry]

Now, what do you need fiber for? What is the fiber for?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you need fiber for your gut health. You don't want a leaky gut. You need your gut health, man. Don't you watch these ads? Oh, that's right. You pay not to watch ads.

[Adam Curry]

That's right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gut Health. That's why Gut Health. Got it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can't read the name. This is like to tar. To tartan, I think is the brand. It's almost impossible to read it small.

[Adam Curry]

Does it have protein?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Does it have protein?

[John C. Dvorak]

But anyway, they have on Amazon probiotic fiber Gummies.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. And what is the name?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's too tartan. I'm going to have to look it up.

[Adam Curry]

Well, what is the point? You're giving us a tip of the day. Just telling.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, if you know. But there's a ton of these things. You don't have to buy this one brand.

[Adam Curry]

You need to tell us. Okay, Gut Health. How do I know if I need that for my gut health? This is a tip of the day. You do.

[John C. Dvorak]

You do. Everybody needs to have fiber. They need probiotics. It's just a fact. Do I have to give a lecture, the medical lecture, just to promote some cheap gummies?

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is a tip of the day, and so typically, it's a pro. You'll tell me why it's going to improve my life. And so what is? What is.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it'll improve your poops.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, there it is. Well, I will give that a try. Will my poops be firmer?

[John C. Dvorak]

They'll be more regular firmer, and you'll feel better about things.

[Adam Curry]

The most boomer tip of the day ever. What happened to prunes? What happened to prune juice? Man?

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a. Okay. Prunes are good too, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, you have to give us the name so we don't get the wrong poop powder.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, yes.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I mean, like I said. Okay, let me look it up. You're just making my life miserable.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, I didn't come with the poop tip of the day, okay? It wasn't. It wasn't. Wasn't my idea. He's just randomly saying, oh, get some gummies off of Amazon. Well, you might as well get those. Those bear. What are those? Bear gummies. That has 30,000 comments. What was it? The Harry Bow Gold. That's the gummy. I would recommend. Go look at the comments on Harry Bo Gold.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I will.

[Adam Curry]

Do you have it? Do you have. You have your. Your favorite.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the one that we're using here is what we. Nine in one. These are nine in one, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

This is a family thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

The whole family was. This is JJ and Brennan's thing. And I started eating these. They're pretty tasty. Nine in one probiotic from. Pretty good. From Tutorin Tatarin.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, man, the whole. Now, do you have a. Just to pull a number to get into the bathroom. Do you have, like, one.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's a little bunch of buttons you push.

[Adam Curry]

All right, there it is, everybody. You can get all the details.

[John C. Dvorak]

I guess maybe that's it. Tataria. Hold on a second. I got more stuff. Oh, you got there also.5 billion. CFU, bacillus, coagulans, psyllium, husk.

[Adam Curry]

All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Inulin. Oh, my God. It's got everything in. They're pineapple. It's delicious.

[Adam Curry]

It's the Swiss army knife of gummies. I tell you, it's got.

[John C. Dvorak]

Anyways. Totalia. Totalia. That's it. T O t. A R I, A totaria.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

As in toe tap.

[Adam Curry]

You never. You never know what you get with the tip of the day. Could be a chardonnay. It could be a gummy.

[John C. Dvorak]

It could be. Or a box cutter.

[Adam Curry]

Or a box cutter. I mean, this is f. The box cutter was a great tip, by the way. The box.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you get one?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

You just chop any boxes up?

[Adam Curry]

I chop some boxes right away. Ah. Those of you listening atnoagenA stream.com or your modern podcast app do stay tuned because up next we have random thoughts. Sir Darren Paul McCartney. O'. Neil. Okay, can't wait for that. That'll be dynamite. That's the guy who just does podcasts and his wife brings home the bacon. It's amazing what a gig that guy has. End of show mixes from Sir Johnny B. MVP and just Baker. And we will return on Sunday once again to help you make sense of the world, make you smart around the water cooler. As long as you remember to Support [e-mail] until then. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country right here in Fredericksburg, Texas in the morning, everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm Adam Curry and from Refinery Row, where I'm going to ask people, what do you think of the. Whatever girls? Send Adam a note. @adamacurry.com I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

We'll be back on Sunday. Until then, adios. Mo fos are hooey, hooey and such. Skim the cycle where the media spins the wheel Thin truth gets rinsed in the spin to the facts Congealed in no wedge and that cuts the real exposes the seal within. From the homer's vein cracking open with the claws that twist is real left dangling While the red disruptor insists G7 in the Alps pose in the high altitude mist Trade threats on the grapes while the mineral chains resist rare earth scramble the east grips the master switch T7 dreams of assuring but the leverage stays in the ditch Bomber from the old guard took the desert Runway dive eight lives claim with modernization met his gravity job Media brushes piece with the spin that keeps the proxies alive we slice through the varnish with the formula sharpest knife the deconstruction blade that keeps the narrative in check Skim the surface stories but the undercurrents what we detect you leave toasting luxury while the fine print stays intact no agenda formula turns the flim flam into direct Skim the cycle where the media spins the wheel Pin truth gets rinsed in the skin til the facts congealing no agenda cuts the real exposes the seal within if it resonates deep in the signal feels

[John C. Dvorak]

real within

[Adam Curry]

the now you producers keep the wheel and spin no agenda Drive when you feed what feeds your skin Value for value if it slaps then drop it in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yo

[Adam Curry]

it's global garbage man day salute the crew two dudes, two mics and a podcast that's true no corporate check no advertiser strings

[John C. Dvorak]

Just value for value

[Adam Curry]

value that's the game we bring Father's Day Sunday so call out your pop donate any amount watch the shout outs

[John C. Dvorak]

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[Adam Curry]

Hits the mic under that anonymous old

[John C. Dvorak]

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[Adam Curry]

your poison, pick your lane or melon Check your El Cerrito in the rain Bitcoin lightning on chain scan the cold night hood lay away 50amonth that's the road Value for value no agenda, no lies Donate a letter watch your name in the skies garbage bags out recycling the news Coriani borax pouring poleish potatoes potato juice now let me drop knowledge get your hydration break Polish potato vodka for the deal that they make Trump and Iran Friday Qatar in the mix Pakistan watching 60 days of politics 12th Imam hidden since the year 800 some hard line is scheme and want the whole world Thunder bomb is real summon chaos back in the monthly back Nuttiest of influencers be planning that attack but that's deep law for a Thursday afternoon no agenda breaks it down before the next monsoon Bisexual sponges scrubbing both ways Did a code on a billboard missing letters, no praise made or black A man who was clearly hungover Posting wild stuff Woke up, buttoned up the COVID Fake tweets claiming the President's demise Phantom chef screenshots Believe your own eyes if a critter the week that's the segment they run no agenda means no filter Just call out everyone Value for value no agenda, no lies Donate a little watch a name in the skies garbage bags out recycle in the news Korean Dvorak pouring bow ish potato juice Deconstruct the narrative peel back the sheen uncovering the M5M hidden in between no corporate gatekeepers pulling on the thread we build

[John C. Dvorak]

this architecture out of the what is

[Adam Curry]

said But a decentralized world requires an arc to keep the signal beaming we need an ear mark Donate your time, your talent, your treasure A triptych of devotion that no metric can measure Value for value flowing backward to the source Crack pot and buzz kill leading, of course.

[John C. Dvorak]

Time 10 Talent and treasure Time, talent

[Adam Curry]

and treasure fuel the transmission Time, talent and Treasure.

[John C. Dvorak]

The best podcast in the universe.

[Adam Curry]

Mofo dvorak.org na yeah, I was gonna podcast until I heard the no Agenda show. It's great.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can someone tell me a better podcast than no Agenda?