1880 - "Antifa Book Club"

Summary

No Agenda Show, Episode 1880 – "Antifa Book Club"

Date: June 25, 2026
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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Episode Overview

This episode of the No Agenda Show features Adam and John in their classic media deconstruction mode, highlighting how mainstream news cycles become obsessed with trivial stories while truly significant events receive little or skewed coverage. They open with a critique of media propaganda, a discussion on the politicization of entertainment, the absurd reflecting pool “scandal,” and a comprehensive breakdown of recent news about Antifa convictions, U.S.-Iran negotiations, the AI/quantum computing panic, and more. As always, sharp media analysis, memorable clips, and humor abound.

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Key Segments & Time-stamped Highlights

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1. Media as Propaganda & the “West Wing” Rewatch

[01:13 – 05:00]

• Adam observes, after watching "The West Wing," that the show functioned as sophisticated Democratic Party propaganda:
  • “I’m watching this and I’m like, this is total mind control propaganda for the Democrat Party.” – Adam [02:39]
• Noted themes include early virtue-signaling, lack of diversity behind the virtue, and depiction of government dealings.
• The hosts reflect on the power and reach of linear TV back in the 1990s/2000s, compared to today's fragmented streaming-focused landscape.

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2. Reflecting Pool “Scandal”

[05:00 – 14:00]

• A triple-network news comparison (“three by three”): Adam and John mock how ABC, NBC, and CBS all prioritize and dramatize the reflecting pool's algae, peeling paint, and allegations of “vandalism.”
• Trump's claim about vandals being responsible is continually doubted by the press, with no hard evidence produced.
• John: "They keep saying five or six people were arrested, but yet there’s no evidence. Well, they get arrested." [08:20]
• The high cost of the pool's renovation ($16 million+) is lampooned, as are similar government projects (e.g., the $144M California wildlife overpass, West Wing plotlines about government waste).
• On the side: entertaining aside about TV depictions versus reality, and spending priorities—"Nothing changes at all.” – Adam [09:33]

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3. “Antifa Book Club” & Media Suppression

[14:00 – 24:08]

• Independent journalist Andy Ngo reports on historic federal terrorism sentences for Antifa members from Texas—450+ total years among 8 activists.
  • “Today, antifa learned what don’t mess with Texas really means.” – Andy Ngo [14:18]
• The event receives little to no major coverage; PBS segment frames harsh sentences as unprecedented (“decades-long sentences that were passed down…” [18:12]) and unfair compared to January 6th rioters.
• Panelists bicker about whether the convictions are justified, whether Antifa “is real,” and the implications for civil liberties.
• The infamous “book club” defense emerges:
  • “They said what brought them together was…a book group of the Emma Goldman Reading Society…” – PBS Expert [21:22]
• Adam and John mock the “book club” narrative and note how both news coverage and sentencing decisions are driven by political messaging, not simply facts.

Memorable Quotes:

• “It seems to me this was a suppressed story.” – John [15:23]
• “Antifa is not real. It’s just not real. I’m telling you.” – Adam [19:55]

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4. Podcasting Scams & AI Slop

[24:07 – 28:49]

• Adam details the rise of text-to-speech "slopcasts": garbage podcasts spun up for ad revenue.
• “There’s been an incredible increase…about 30% now of all podcast downloads, which is this ridiculous metric…It’s all scams.” – Adam [25:30]
• Discussion on how legacy ad metrics are being gamed; parallel drawn to the old “half my advertising works, I just don’t know which half” conundrum.
• Value-for-value model is praised as the alternative.

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5. Iran Negotiations, Soy & Sanctions

[28:49 – 35:15]

• Focus shifts to U.S.-Iran negotiations—Trump states any released Iranian assets will go solely to buy American wheat, corn, and soy for Iranians.
  • “...if Iranian assets are ever unfrozen, they’re going to go to make American farmers richer and to feed the Iranian people.” – J.D. Vance recounting Kushner’s deal [32:04]
• Analysis: hosts question if Iranians even use soy, and whether the arrangement is legitimate trade or market manipulation.
• Related segment: fertilizer shortages due to Strait of Hormuz conflict.

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6. Climate, Farming, and Nitrogen Bans

[35:15 – 40:00]

• How environmentalist policies (targeting nitrogen and oil) intersect with real-world food and industrial needs.
• “If you want to kill Western civilization, kill the oil industry.” – John [35:42]

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7. Democrat Socialist Takeover & Identity Politics

[40:00 – 44:39]

• More Democratic Socialists win nominations in heavily Democratic districts—“And they all hate the country.” – John [36:31]
• Short Mamdani clip: Islamic references and government “help” set off Adam and John. [36:45]
• Cultural nostalgia about the old, “safe” New York City; Chinatown’s legacy; now replaced by North Africans running street markets.

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8. Quantum Panic, AI “Break-ins,” and Psyops

[54:22 – 63:35]

• The U.S. government gets “bamboozled” by AI vendors into believing AI models like Mythos can crack classified systems.
• Trump signs “Quantum Innovation” executive orders—Adam and John critique the hype around “quantum industrial base.” [57:33 – 58:43]
• Comparison of Chinese and U.S. AI/LLM models: “per task” pricing ridiculed.
• Adam: “This has got to be the pivot of this AI business.” [61:03]
• Local (personal) AI use celebrated over centralized cloud data centers.

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9. Civic Tech, Autos, and “Kill Switch” Law

[71:28 – 76:32]

• Tragic Tesla crash story launches a discussion about new auto control legislation—2026 cars must have surveillance and remote deactivation built in.
• “I’m not going to buy a 2026 car…” – John [72:09]

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10. Mahjong in America: Cultural Fads

[74:51 – 78:44]

• Brief, humorous segment about the surprising rise of mahjong as a social fad across the U.S.; tie-ins to state tax policy.

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11. Canada’s Crime Wave, Iran & Israel, and Media Framing

[78:51 – 83:45]

• Deep dive into Canadian “hire-a-shooter” incidents, alleged links to Iran’s networks, and speculation about false flags.
• Adam & John pivot to theories that Israel may stage events to provoke U.S. military alignment against Iran.
• Tucker Carlson’s anti-Israel position and alleged “exodus” from the GOP is analyzed with skepticism and mockery.

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12. Hit Pieces, Tucker Carlson, and Media Chameleons

[83:54 – 94:23]

• Multiple clips played of Tucker Carlson’s current anti-GOP, anti-Israel message—parsing whether it’s sincere, a media play, or a political precursor.
• “Tucker’s out to get Rubio…” – John [90:54]
• Hosts compare Tucker to Ed Schultz (media figure who switched networks/messages repeatedly).

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13. Dumb Clips Segment (Whatever Girls, Candace Owens, et al.)

[96:00 – 100:26]

• Classic “screwball” content: Women’s historical ignorance (“What’s a quarter of an hour?” “25 cents.” [99:25]), Candace Owens thunder revelation, etc.
• “This is a national security issue.” – Adam [99:53]
• John admits the CIA might be preferable given the state of national IQ.

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14. Sports, Climate, and the World Cup Heat

[100:46 – 106:51]

• FIFA’s “mandatory water breaks” are dismissed as really being about maximizing commercial breaks.
• Critique of climate activism and virtue signaling at sporting events.
• “How does one area warm up in global warming?” – John [104:49]
• Patrick Moore (Greenpeace founder) old-school climate skepticism revisited.

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15. Healthcare Fraud & Enforcement

[111:52 – 114:27]

• Huge DOJ crackdown: 455 defendants charged with $6.5B in healthcare fraud (Medicare/Medicaid).
• “That is literally exactly two years of military funding for Israel.” – Adam [112:41]
• Fraud themes, need for reform, and personal anecdotes on medical billing.

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16. Community: Meetups & Producer Support

[131:11 – Show Close]

• Celebrations, knighting, and reading of donations.
• Detailed plugs for upcoming No Agenda meetups across the U.S. and Europe.
• Producers (listeners) are celebrated as the show’s backbone, with in-depth breakdowns of donation levels, “Red Knights of the Heart,” and art shoutouts.

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17. Tip of the Day & End-of-Show Mixes

[155:20 – 161:44]

• John shares his “Tip of the Day”: elantalks.com, a free AI celebrity-voice generation tool for memes and social media content.
• Show closes with a Trump AI ISO: “As your president, I intend to make the No Agenda Show a national treasure immediately.” [157:06]
• Roll out of listener-created “end of show” musical remixes.

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Notable Quotes

• “Antifa is not real. It’s just not real. I’m telling you.” – Adam [19:55]
• “There’s all this virtue signaling about DEI. There’s not a single black person in the entire West Wing…” – Adam [03:04]
• “Nothing changes. Nothing changes at all.” – Adam [09:33]
• “If you want to kill Western civilization, kill the oil industry.” – John [35:42]
• “Book clubs. I knew those book clubs were bad news.” – John [21:02]
• “It’s all scams. So you fire up a podcast and then you fire up your, you know, your 30 different web browser clients around the world and it starts downloading and then you can start making money.” – Adam [25:30]
• “Tucker’s out to get Rubio… It was a Rubio hit piece.” – John [90:54]
• “People are loving football… because it’s just fun.” – Adam [116:54]

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Episode Tone

The tone throughout is irreverent, skeptical, highly meta, and filled with in-jokes. Adam and John blend serious critique (on the media, government, and cultural shifts) with satirical observation, playful bickering, and appreciation for their audience’s engagement. Satirical voice-overs, fake endorsements, and crowd-sourced musical interludes keep the show lively and unpredictable.

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Conclusion

Episode 1880 offers a whirlwind tour through the week’s biggest (and silliest) news topics, revealing the constructed nature of media, the political gamesmanship around “Antifa” and terrorism, trends in podcasting and technology, and how cultural touchstones are spun by both political parties and commercial interests. As always, the show closes with practical community plugs and a tongue-in-cheek call for listener support.

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Transcript

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's because you're in the chat room pumping yourself.

[Adam Curry]

Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, June 25, 2026. This is your award winning Cubone Nation media assassination episode 1888.

[Donald Trump]

This is no agenda.

[Adam Curry]

Not quite. 88.

[John C. Dvorak]

1880.

[Adam Curry]

There we go. Hey, everybody out of the pool. We're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country, right here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, from Refinery Row, I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

It's crackpot and buzzkill in. Oh, no, no, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

Crap and spiel.

[Adam Curry]

You should have said with the glockenspiel. You had like a. Like a whole four seconds left.

[John C. Dvorak]

I dropped the ball. I dropped the ball.

[Adam Curry]

Four seconds left in the donut, man, that. You left the donut hole open.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, turn down your speakers just a little bit. Just a tad for me.

[John C. Dvorak]

I had to turn them up because I was listening earlier to your little presentation and it was.

[Adam Curry]

What presentation?

[John C. Dvorak]

The songs you play. Oh, you mean it was too low and it was. It wasn't crisp.

[Adam Curry]

The sloppocalypse Muddy. What is this? What is this muddy stuff?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, so I turned it up.

[Adam Curry]

Ah, okay. You turned it up. I got it. I got to tell you something. My never ending quest to find something to watch. Tina and I decided, hey, let's watch the West Wing.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's an old show.

[Adam Curry]

It's a very old show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And did you find it gross?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, and I'll tell you why. Now, when did the show air? In the 90s, I think. Was it around Clinton Times?

[John C. Dvorak]

It was reflective of Clinton.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. So it's Martin Sheen, what's his face? Rob Lowe. C.J. forget the actress's name. Anyway, so I think it was kind of the first time that America or the world really got to see how kind of the office of the President works, how everything works in the West Wing. And I'm sure it's reasonable.

[John C. Dvorak]

It went from 99 to 2006.

[Adam Curry]

Interesting. And I'm sure it was reasonably accurate. You know, the press, the deals that they're doing with all of the senators and representatives. But I'm watching this and I'm like, this is total mind control propaganda for the Democrat Party.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I think everyone knew that at the time.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I never really watched it. So, you know, and now watching.

[John C. Dvorak]

I couldn't watch it because of that.

[Adam Curry]

Well, the first. Well, we weren't doing the show then, so otherwise I'm sure we would have discussed it. So first of all. There's all this virtue single.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, actually, the thing went off as soon as they got wind that we're going to start this show.

[Adam Curry]

They stop. They canceled the show. Yeah, there's virtue signaling about dei. There's not a single black person in the entire West Wing. But then they hire some black kid to be the president's body man. And it's all this pandering. Oh, we're so good to blacks. And then Syria blows up a plane with military doctors and 298Americans are killed, and the President wants to go on kill. You know, hey, we got to deliver a proportionate response. And it was like, no, that's not who we are.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like, get some clips from this show.

[Adam Curry]

You know, I might have to. And then the whole gun control thing. Oh, my God.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're going to watch this show. You're now obliged to get clips because I'm sure there's some gems.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, the whole gun control thing where they know that it's meaningless, but we got to do this for the base. And then they have. So apparently there's a budget surplus. And this one secretary saying, well, if you have a surplus, why don't we return it back to the American people? And they're laughing at her. Ha, ha, ha. We don't return that to citizens. We're Democrats. It's like the whole thing was just.

[John C. Dvorak]

They didn't do that.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Oh, yes. Literally, Literally, literally. You shouldn't have voted for us. I mean, it was. I'm just. And Tina's like, can you actually handle this? I said, it's really educational for me. This. This seeped into the minds of people. It really did.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the idea.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's propaganda.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I don't think anything has that power like that had back in the day, you know, when, you know, this was. This was it. You know, this is what people were watching. We had. We didn't have stream.

[John C. Dvorak]

We didn't have much.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe. But was it better back then? Is the question was life better? So I think we should just rip it with your three by three, because this is clearly the news that everyone has to talk about. Experiment 5, JCD comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC.

[News Reporter]

The never ending story.

[Adam Curry]

That's right, everybody. It's the top news stories. Everything. Oh, it's. It's the. It's what? All the top three channels are doing the most important things in the world, and John has collected three of them. So we play three by three, see artists.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the background on this is that I wanted to emphasize that there was some good stuff going on besides the thing that was discussed in the newsletter. Tulsi Gabbard.

[Adam Curry]

Are you kidding?

[John C. Dvorak]

Tulsi Gabbard and the corruption in the drug industry and the labs overseas and Obama being a creep. And then we have a clip which I'll play after these clips, which, which is I can't find anywhere.

[Andy Ngo]

All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Except I end up with an Andy go clip.

[Adam Curry]

I think you pronounce it. No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no go nowhere. Go. No go. Andy no go.

[Adam Curry]

Andy no go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who can barely enunciate and he's just kind of low energy. Talk about low energy. Yeah. There's just news. There's real interesting news. But no, no, no, no, no. This is that they want to yak and yak about. Let's start with abc.

[News Anchor]

Abc, it is tonight, the iconic reflecting pool under tight security, Police on horseback, the National Guard on patrol and newly installed cameras. It's been just two weeks since the $16 million taxpayer funded renovation. Blue paint already peeling the water green with algae. The pool could soon be drained for repairs. President Trump recently promised the renovated pool would last for years.

[Donald Trump]

You could be very proud of, and it'll last for a million years, 50 to 100 years before you have to do anything.

[News Anchor]

Granite today. He blamed the damage on vandals but provided no evidence.

[Adam Curry]

No evidence.

[Donald Trump]

They cut it. They cut it very violently.

[News Anchor]

He claims someone slashed the bottom of the pool and pulled up the paint.

[Donald Trump]

We have a, I think 290, 300 foot slit right through it. Probably a box cutter or a knife of some kind.

[News Anchor]

He said vandals were also to blame for algae blooms.

[Donald Trump]

They put, somebody said fertilizer in the water. If you put fertilizer in the water, you get algae.

[News Anchor]

Reporters pressing the president.

[News Reporter]

National Garden Police have been all over the mall.

[Adam Curry]

How would these vandals have gotten so close to do something like that? Do you have any proof of.

[Donald Trump]

I mean, we didn't have, we didn't have a lot of them then. Who would think that somebody would go into a pool and take a knife and start cutting it?

[News Anchor]

David, the president says five people have been arrested. We've asked multiple agencies, including the Department of the Interior and the US Park Police for evidence of vandalism. Nothing yet. And again, David, we are now learning that the price tag for this renovation is much higher than we thought. More than $16 million in taxpayer money.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, my Lord. As we come on the air at this hour, this is just a scandal. Taxpayer funded. You know, I got algae in my pool. Right now too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Algae, by the way, fertilizer in the thing is a good gag that works. They keep saying no. Five people were, five or six people were arrested, but yet there's no evidence. Well, they get arrested.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's no evidence. He's just rousting people on the street.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, come on. Abc.

[Adam Curry]

I will say during the West Wing, we've only watched three or four episodes. The reflecting pool is beautiful, is blue. I don't know what happened. It looked really nice on the tv.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's move to. And by the way, talking about taxpayer money just as a, in a side.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here in California, they've spent $144 million on, on an overpass for birds, for, for cougars and bears. A overpass over a freeway. I think five. They've, it's called an animal thing. They're supposed to.

[Adam Curry]

An animal, an animal walk through.

[John C. Dvorak]

So animals can walk across the, across the freeway and go to the other side. This is crazy.

[Adam Curry]

This is crazy.

[John C. Dvorak]

This 144 million, it's not, they can't finish it.

[Adam Curry]

This is, this was in the episode we watched last night where there's some wolf and the wildlife. People want $900 million and they actually buckle and they. Okay, we should probably do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like this same thing.

[Adam Curry]

Nothing changes. Nothing changes at all.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Okay, let's go to. That was abc. Let's go to NBC.

[News Anchor]

President Trump also tonight pledging to start repairs on the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting pool around the 4th of July, accusing vandals of damaging it during renovations. Gabe Gutierrez is on the national Malta night. And Gabe, they've beefed up security there.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, Hallie, we've seen new security cameras,

[Guest Expert]

National Guard members and police officers from

[Adam Curry]

across the country here. And tonight they're also adding fencing around the pool as President Trump is, is doubling down on his claims that vandalism is to blame for the reflecting pool's recent issues, including aggressive algae and peeling paint. He says that someone sliced the bottom of the pool with a knife, although

[Guest Expert]

his administration has not released any evidence of that.

[Adam Curry]

Six people have been arrested so far. The land market recently undergone a 14 million dollar renovation that involved painting the bomb a darker shade of blue. Now today, the pool is looking a lot less green. The company responsible for the cleanup says the algae has been killed, but it's been settling at the bottom of the

[News Reporter]

pool where it's now being vacuumed up. Alex,

[Adam Curry]

do you have the clip where they talk about how it was the President himself who did this?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think so, but let's listen to the key clip which always is cbs.

[Adam Curry]

Ed, some reflecting pool news tonight.

[John C. Dvorak]

The president now claiming vandals have attack

[Adam Curry]

this pool that he's been renovating. What can you tell us?

[News Reporter]

That's right.

[Andy Ngo]

The president says the pool which has

[News Reporter]

turned green because of algae and has seen part of its bottom peeled off now has to be drained and repaired again because he says vandals cut a 350 foot gash along the bottom of the pool. I asked him about it earlier. Do you have any proof of the slit?

[Donald Trump]

We didn't have a lot of them then. Who would think that somebody would go into a pool and take a knife and start cutting it?

[News Reporter]

But do you have proof of that,

[Adam Curry]

that they used a knife? Do you have photos or videos?

[Donald Trump]

Well, let's put it this way. When you have a 350, I think it's 350, not 250. A 350 foot slit from one end to the other, you think that's proof?

[News Reporter]

The U. S. Park police says it arrested five people on vandalism charges and issued citations to five others.

[Adam Curry]

All right, well there seems like something's going on. If they got five arrests and five

[John C. Dvorak]

again, they're making a big fuss over the one arrest of some Olympic guy.

[Adam Curry]

Let me just intercede with this Anderson Pooper clip.

[News Reporter]

The US Park Police are asking for the public's help in identifying the person seen in this video at the reflecting pool in connection to what they call, quote, a destruction of government property investigation. They say this video was recorded last Friday at approximately 3:36pm this comes after the president again claimed on social media today that vandals damaged the reflecting claim. Also, the president said six people have been arrested in connection with that alleged vandalism and seven others have been cited for the damage. That's after parts of the blue sealant have been seen floating in the water with the president now claiming there's a 350 foot long gash. There's also been the algae that turned the pool green last week, but no proof given yet that vandals poured fertilizer into the pool to feed the problem as the president has also claimed just days after work was completed on the no bid $16 million plus renovation. However, there's been speculation or questions raised online asking if the presidential motorcade driving in the pool during the construction in early May along with other equipment may have caused or contributed to the problem with the blue coating. Recently, Adam Kovach, a reporter with Scientific American, wrote, quote, the bottom of the pool may also have been affected by the presence of heavy equipment and trucks and a presidential motorcade that drove through at one point while the coating was being prepared and applied.

[Adam Curry]

There you go. He did it himself. He did it himself.

[John C. Dvorak]

Drove through. Driving through the pool.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. When it was they. Yeah, he drove the motorcade. I guess they. They jumped right over the. Right over the edge there and just drove it all the way down. Who knows? The fact that this was news is just beyond me.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's dumb. You know, they're making this big news story. And then I, as I'm listening to all these other real news stories and the ones I mentioned earlier, I had to listen to this. Here's the antifa report out of Texas, which I think would lead the news if I was the editor.

[Adam Curry]

This is independent journalist Andy Ngo. Today, antifa learned what don't mess with Texas really means. Two federal judges in Fort Worth sentence eight members of the North Texas Antifa terror cell to a collective 450. 50 years in federal prison. This is not just historic sentences in length, it's also the historic first federal anti terrorism convictions in U.S. history. And this is not the end of their legal woes. They still face state charges of domestic terrorism, conspiracy and attempted murder, and eight other members of the cell that were convicted or scheduled to be federally sentenced next week. Read my report. I have exclusive details from what happened in the courtroom. There was crying. Read about it.

[Andy Ngo]

Ngo.

[Adam Curry]

Comment.com subscribe to. You know, PBS NewsHour did pay some attention to this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, did they? I'm good. Good. I'm glad.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because it was. It seems to me that you. That this was a suppressed story. And I think the reason is pretty obvious. You don't want to. If you're major mainstream, you don't want to promote this story. You want to talk about the reflecting pool and give people ideas. Yeah. You know, hey, you know what? These fertilizer. They say it was fertilizer. I don't know. Maybe it wasn't fertilizer.

[Donald Trump]

Prove it.

[John C. Dvorak]

But, you know, fertilizer will do that.

[Adam Curry]

Fertilizer could do it. I'm just saying, why don't you test it, go home, get if you can afford the fertilizer.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so. Exactly. That's funny. So the point is, is that you tell people, hey, these guys got like 50 years in prison.

[Adam Curry]

Hundred one got 100.

[John C. Dvorak]

No one got 100. Okay. Got 100 years in prison. Don't publicize that because that might dissuade. Yes, let me play somebody from continuing this practice. Of being a jerk.

[Adam Curry]

Here's pbs.

[News Anchor]

In two federal courts yesterday, a group of protesters received unusually long sentences. Unusually the justice accuse them of being.

[Adam Curry]

Where do you think they're going to take this? Where do you think?

[News Reporter]

What?

[Adam Curry]

What is the unfair. What is the comparison they shall make?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. Members, you will.

[News Anchor]

Far left movement Antifa. The sentences range from 30 to 100 years in prison, longer than the harshest sentence handed down to any of the convicted rioters in the January 6th.

[Adam Curry]

And there we are. We are 20 seconds in and already is compared to January 6th on the

[News Anchor]

US Capitol in 2021. All of those people have pardons or commutations from President Trump. Our justice correspondent Ali Rogan.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, because that's not a false equivalency.

[News Anchor]

These nine protesters were arrested after they demonstrated outside a migrant detention facility in Texas last year. During the protest, a police officer was shot in the neck. He survived. Their case is the first to incorporate new guidance from a presidential declaration last year that labels ANTIFA as a domestic terrorist organization. That's despite the fact that ANTIFA is a decentralized movement, not a single organization.

[Adam Curry]

It's not real.

[News Anchor]

And there is no federal charge of domestic terrorism under existing US Law.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's a good point. Wow. Okay. I'm giving you right off the bat, I'm giving you a borderline clip of the day for getting that one and topping me.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, but it's not over yet. Let's bring in Paul Butler.

[News Anchor]

We discuss the implications of this sentencing. I'm joined by George Ten Walker.

[Guest Expert]

This is.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. The implications of the sentencing. Don't do it.

[News Anchor]

Former federal prosecutor Paul Butler.

[Adam Curry]

Paul, what's that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the implication, don't shoot a cop.

[News Anchor]

Good to see you. Welcome Back to the NewsHour.

[Guest Expert]

It's great to be here.

[News Anchor]

I'd like to ask first about these decades long sentences that were passed down. The longest was 100 years in prison. Most of the others received sentences of 50 to 70 years. You're familiar with the outlaw allegations against these defendants. Are these sentences typical?

[Guest Expert]

No, they're not. The sentences are extremely harsh. They're sentences that are more typical for people who have committed murder or stolen millions of dollars. Compare these defendants to two other sets of defendants. One, they're co defendants who were accused of the same conduct but pled guilty. They're going to be sentenced next month.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's what happens if you plead guilty. You get a different sentence, usually less.

[Guest Expert]

Funny enough, looking at around 15 years, we can also think of the 1500 people who were prosecuted in connection with the attack on the Capitol on January 6, 2021. The most any of those defendants received was 22 years, compared with the 30, 70 years that these defendants received.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so let's just set it all out and just. Please, people. Antifa is not real. You can't label it a terrorist organization. It doesn't exist. It doesn't come from anywhere. It's just not real. The birds are not real.

[News Anchor]

Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche released a statement in which he said in part, the sentences handed down today make clear that the Antifa terrorists who attack law enforcement and federal facilities will face swift and uncompromising justice. Calling them antifa terrorists. What do we know about Antifa and whether or not this terrorism label is really accurate?

[Adam Curry]

It's not real. It's just not real. I'm telling you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Never heard of them.

[Adam Curry]

What is that?

[Guest Expert]

Antifa is not a formal organization. It doesn't have a leadership.

[John C. Dvorak]

They have a logo.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they do have a logo.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who did the logo and why did they all use it?

[Guest Expert]

First? It's more of a network of people on the far left who are opposed to fascism. President Trump has labeled it a domestic terrorist organization. Now, there is such a thing as a foreign terrorist organization, but the law doesn't provide any classification for domestic terrorist organization.

[Adam Curry]

So it's a misclassification. They should all be let go organizations.

[Guest Expert]

More significantly, five of the alleged Antifa members pled guilty and they supported the prosecution. But on the stand they denied that they and any of the co defendants were members of Antifa. They said what brought them together was that they were a member of a book group that Emma Goldman.

[Adam Curry]

They're a member of a book club, John.

[John C. Dvorak]

I knew those book clubs were bad news.

[Adam Curry]

Nothing good comes from book clubs of Antifa.

[Guest Expert]

They said what brought them together was that they were a member of a book group of the Emma Book.

[John C. Dvorak]

When he says that because he's outraged

[Adam Curry]

by it all It's a book group

[Guest Expert]

together. Is that they were a member of a book group of the Emma Goldman Reading Society that read books by revolutionary

[News Anchor]

authors named after a famous anti fascist protester.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Okay.

[Guest Expert]

All right.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I have one more. We'll just wrap this up because it's clearly a message.

[News Anchor]

What sort of message do you think the Department of Justice was sending?

[Adam Curry]

John, Let me ask you, when the Department of Justice sentences people to 30 to 100 years, what kind of a message do you think that is sending to people? To protesters?

[John C. Dvorak]

By the way, they're telling them to stop protesters.

[News Anchor]

It's protesters in pursuing these sentences. And do you think we're going to see this in future cases against protesters especially?

[John C. Dvorak]

Those are protesters. These are. These were terrorists. They tried to kill some guys. It was like an ambush. It was terrible. That Texas story was ridiculous.

[Adam Curry]

And remember that terrorism by definition is a political act, which this clearly was. They're even saying it in this report. So that's why you get a classification of a terrorist.

[News Anchor]

Administration policies like the immigration crackdown.

[Guest Expert]

Last year, after the murder of Charlie Kirk, President Trump signed the national security presidential memo 7. It's a directive that says that the government should use its law enforcement resources to focus on domestic terrorist organizations. And he said domestic terrorist ideology could include anti capitalist views, people who have extreme views on race and gender and immigration, and even people who are opposed to what the directive described as traditional teachings on marriage and the family. The concern is that prosecutions based on this directive chill free speech. People who demonstrate, even people who are resisting the administration, have First Amendment rights to free speech. Of course they do. And freedom of assembly. Now, when they cross the line, as these defendants did with acts of vandalism, of course they should be brought to justice. The concern is when people are labeled terrorists based on their political views, that chills free speech.

[Adam Curry]

Chills.

[John C. Dvorak]

Chills.

[News Anchor]

Chills.

[Adam Curry]

Chills. Free. You know what? Here's my suggestion. Why don't these members of the book club start a podcast? You can make a difference.

[John C. Dvorak]

It'd be a good one to listen to.

[Adam Curry]

You can start a podcast. You can make a difference with a podcast.

[John C. Dvorak]

It may be one already. You don't know, do you?

[Adam Curry]

No, I don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

I haven't come across too many podcasts to keep track of. I know you've tried.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's impossible. Especially with the slop cast. Now there's tens of thousands of episodes of text to speech nonsense. You should just go look. Charlie Kirk podcast. Oh, my goodness. A hundred of them. Charlie Kirk.

[John C. Dvorak]

Really?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. What they do is their systems are set up so whenever something hits the news, then immediately they spin up a podcast about it. So people go looking.

[John C. Dvorak]

What kind of listenership do they get?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's a total scam. So they go to a megaphone, which is Spotify subsidiary or one of the other podcast hosts, and so you get a free account. So it costs nothing to spin this up. And they jam two ads at the front of the podcast. And then there's been an incredible increase, funny enough, about 30% now of all podcast downloads, which is this ridiculous metric. The podcast industrial complex Tries to use to sell ads, which we don't do, because value for value is the true way. And there's been this increase of web browsers listening to podcasts. So it's all scams. So you fire up a podcast and then you fire up your, you know, your 30 different web browser clients around the, around the world and it starts downloading and then you can start making money as long as you have enough of them. You know, if you have enough episodes, enough podcasts and you have enough, you know, phony downloads. I'm just going to call this phony. It's fake. It's phony downloads. Then you can make some money. But this is ephemeral. You can't make enough money. It's going to go away eventually. But no one's actually. I mean, I'm sure that some people listen to it. You know, I've listened to a text to speech podcast or something I was really interested in. I got through most of it. They're short. It's okay. You know, like financial news that someone. There's no one has the time to voice it. Okay. But it's not worth listening to two ads. So that's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don't the advertisers have a clue here?

[Adam Curry]

No, they're idiots.

[John C. Dvorak]

It isn't doing them any good.

[Adam Curry]

I think they're idiots. And it's not. It's based on charts and dashboards. Look, boss, I'm a media buyer and got a lot of downloads.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just like one that's one of your better voices.

[Adam Curry]

And they're 19 years old.

[John C. Dvorak]

Woman. No offense.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I can't do that. They're 19 years old. I, you know, he said clearly she or he knows about podcasts. I bought all the best podcasts. I got a good job.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's media buyer.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's a. Media buyers.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know.

[Adam Curry]

And they just show a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Talking about.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they just show a dashboard. Oh, the dashboard looks good. Number go up. Hockey stick to the right and up is good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no, no, no. That's not, that is not a way. And you know, I told you about that whole group. They're trying to figure out how to harmonize podcast listening across the whole spectrum, including YouTube videos. So if a, if someone has listened to a podcast for 30 seconds, that's a play. That's a play. They listen to the show. They heard all the ads. That's a play. Move on, people. It's so fake. Is it any different from Nielsen? It's just an agreed fake. Everyone's soaking the advertisers. What is the sentence? I know half of my advertising money is working, I just don't know which half.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Nothing has changed. That's why. Value for value. I don't want to rip off some advertisers and I don't want to have to show them a dashboard. Can you imagine that? John, it's time for the meeting with the advertisers.

[John C. Dvorak]

God.

[Adam Curry]

Do you have the dashboard?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's you, Adam. I got. I got a newsletter.

[Adam Curry]

Do you have the dashboard?

[Guest Expert]

Right.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, could we please see the dashboard?

[John C. Dvorak]

Ready?

[Adam Curry]

Could we please see the stats for the dashboard? I mean, for the newsletter. Do you have the open rate? We need the open rate in the dashboard. I need to show that. Come on, man. Value for value is the way. It's the international lifestyle that we chose. We'll be thanking people later for supporting us.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

There was a little thing I caught amongst all of the Iran news. There was one thing I caught and I delved into it and I thought it was kind of interesting. It's not really widely discussed. This is the President. He was asked outside about, hey, it doesn't seem like anyone's going to inspect anything. You given a trillion dollars to Iran and doing all. And I caught something in this one.

[News Anchor]

No scheduled visit for the IAE inspectors. Is that part of your agreement?

[Donald Trump]

They're wrong.

[Adam Curry]

They're wrong.

[Donald Trump]

They're wrong. They know they're wrong. They told us inside. And we have it down 100% inspections. And if they were right, I'd cancel the meetings right now.

[Adam Curry]

From your view, Mr. President, when will those inspectors actually be on the ground?

[Donald Trump]

At the appropriate time. At the appropriate time. When I'm rushing, but they'll be on the ground at the appropriate. In a position that nobody's ever had. This should have been done for 47 years by other presidents. And we have Iran in a position where their military has been totally wiped out, their leadership has been wiped out, their radar has been wiped out, everything has been wiped out. They have. They have not a good negotiating position, but despite that, and money that will be taken out of Iran is going to go to our farmers to give corn, soybeans, wheat to Iran because they have a hunger problem, they have a food problem, they have a medicine problem, they got a lot of problems. And they have an inflation, their inflation now just at 300%. We're doing very well with Iran.

[Adam Curry]

They got 99 problems and a nuke, ain't it? So I heard that. I'm like, hey, let me find someone talking about that. There weren't any real reports, but I did find this on Bloomberg where Vice President J.D. vance explains how this is going to work.

[News Reporter]

I want to say one, one last thing. I've seen some misreporting about frozen or unfrozen Iranian assets. One of the other things that we wanted to do and, you know, wasn't as high of a priority for us for obvious reasons, but we wanted to make sure that we set up a process where if, if we ever unfreeze Iranian assets, assets, we can ensure that those, that, that money, that Iranian money goes to help the people of Iran and not to fund terrorism. So Jared Kushner actually came up with a very interesting solution with the Qataris, where basically, again, if there is any frozen Iranian assets that are unfrozen, then we have approval over that process, the Qataris have approval over that process, and then the money would actually go to buy American soy, American corn and American wheat for the benefit of the Iranian people. And as much as I see some of the press misreporting on this and of course, you know, buttressed by what the Iranians are saying, or not all Iranians, I want to be clear. There are a lot of Iranians who are telling the truth about what happened yesterday, but you see some social media reporting that gets this wrong. But fundamentally, what Jared and the Qataris and the entire team here in Bergenstock accomplished is to me a classic Trump deal where if Iranian assets are ever unfrozen, they're going to go to make American farmers richer and to feed the Iranian people.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that sounds like a decent deal. No one told me that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I heard that, too. And do they use soy

[Adam Curry]

for the.

[John C. Dvorak]

What are they going to do with it? So the Chinese chew up soy like there's no tomorrow. They use it for all kinds of things. They're eating, ferment it. They make soy sauce, they do this, they do that.

[Adam Curry]

They're eating mulch right now. So soy would be the dogs. Soy would be a plus. Oh, I mean, it's so interesting to see all.

[News Reporter]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

When I heard that, the first thing I thought, though, was the soy thing, because, you know, for soy oil, I mean, what I just didn't. I still don't understand. I wish. Is there an Iranian out there, One of our boots on the ground folk that can tell me what they would do with soy do? This is like some major thing they have a need for.

[Adam Curry]

You're really, you're really ant screwing on this one. I mean, come on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, if you think that I don't think so. Okay, well, that's what is main point was.

[Adam Curry]

No, it was. No, it wasn't his main point. He had a whole bunch of other medicine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, Mecca, okay.

[Adam Curry]

He had tacos in there. Some tacos.

[John C. Dvorak]

What tacos?

[Adam Curry]

I get some Big Macs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Corn.

[Adam Curry]

Corn is. They need corn. He has said corn.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everybody needs corn.

[Adam Curry]

You're just harping on the soy.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the whole reason I've stopped. I don't know anything about soy anymore.

[Adam Curry]

The whole reason for that is because gay general Patton Besant, he's a soybean farmer, so he needs to get a little benny in all this. The price of soy needs to go up. This is market manipulation. If anything, I do have a counter stumbled on it. I do have a counter story here from PBS that's rather short. Let's focus now on some of the economic effects of the war with Iran.

[News Reporter]

About a third of the world's fertilizer supply passes through the Strait of Hormuz,

[Adam Curry]

and its effective closure is causing shortages and price spikes for fertilizer during the

[News Reporter]

crucial spring planting season.

[Adam Curry]

I think this spike is because antifa is buying fertilizer and putting it in the reflecting pool. That has led to fears of both elevated food prices and lower crop yields across the globe. This morning, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins told

[News Reporter]

PBS News Liz Landers that, quote, everything

[Adam Curry]

was on the table to fix the problem for American farmers.

[News Anchor]

Clearly this, I think we're 36 days for the conflict has elevated the issue of fertilizer and how important it is for American farmers and frankly for our food supply. The good news is that about 80% of our farmers actually last fall locked in their fertilizers. So as we're moving into planting season, it's only about 20 to 25% of our farmers that didn't lock that in. We are working directly to ensure that we can get them what they need and it won't bankrupt them.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, she makes a good point. Today's modern farmer, they hedge. They buy all kinds of things ahead of time for this very reason. So I don't know if it's really that bad. They had a whole bunch of farmers calling in. Yeah, it's bad. It was real bad. It's bad.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, it's interesting to me that the left, who wants to banish nitrogen? Pretty much the oil industry.

[Adam Curry]

How about nitrogen?

[John C. Dvorak]

And the oil industry provides fertilizer for the farmers. It provides fuel, it provides helium for the semiconductor business. You know, you could, if you want to kill Western civilization. Yeah, kill the oil Industry.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, they do. They do want to kill that.

[John C. Dvorak]

But down with capitalism.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, it's horrible.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't get it. I mean, why does anyone fall for that?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm seeing on the quad screen all day that the Democrat party is now really worried about how many members are out and out socialists.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's because I don't have a clip. Or maybe I do, but I don't know where it is. I can't find it. My list is too long. Of the four of these Mamdani Democrat socialists got nominated or beat their primary contender in the Democrat Party, knocked out normal Democrats in Democrat controlled areas where they're going to automatically win and end up in Congress. And they all hate the country.

[Donald Trump]

Literally.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I do have a very short Mamdani clip because it went around under the heading of Sharia law. New York. Not exactly, but it is concerning what he says here. And I consider my own faith Islam,

[Andy Ngo]

a religion built upon a narrative of migration. As the prophet Muhammad,

[John C. Dvorak]

Islam began as

[Adam Curry]

something strange and will go back to being strange. So glad tidings to the strangers. If faith offers us the moral compass to stand alongside the stranger, government can provide the resources.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Get ready. Get, get ready for your invitation.

[John C. Dvorak]

What did he just say?

[Adam Curry]

He said what?

[John C. Dvorak]

He said, bring more people over and we'll just pay for it.

[Adam Curry]

That's exactly what he said. Hasama like him. That's exactly what he said. Which I found somewhat distressing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I would think.

[Adam Curry]

Why would you do that?

[John C. Dvorak]

These New Yorkers are stupid. There's a very good. If anyone wants to watch a good 45 minutes, Nick Shirley special. Oh, his most recent one where he's walking down Canal street in New York. In New York, which used to be. I always used to go to Canal

[Adam Curry]

street was the best. Let me go go buy a Folex.

[John C. Dvorak]

You could go there and get good quality knockoffs, bags, watches, belts. Bags, watches, pens, all kinds of things. Chinese legendary.

[Adam Curry]

When I lived in New and friends from Holland would come over to stay. They'd be like, hey, can you take me to Canal Street? I want to go to Canal street to buy a Rolex. Yeah, you bet. We'd have to go every single time. And you could actually walk there. It was safe.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was safe. But now, besides the fact that it's expanded to an extreme and it's run by North Africans and the Chinese have been roused.

[Adam Curry]

When it was Chinese, it was good because you'd walk down Canal street and you'd look at the stuff on the sidewalk and then Some Chinese lady would come up and say hey I got, I go back better back for you. I got a good price, good bucket, come on inside.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And they take you in the back

[Adam Curry]

and it was kind of freaky because am I going to get killed here? And you know they take.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well if you didn't get killed the first time, you're not going to get

[Adam Curry]

killed down into the basement. Like look at this bag. Oh, that's just like the real deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I got some Rolexes from that area that were not the, you know the ones that they sell on the street are the usually quartz movement. But they have some, they have wanted to spend a big dough like up to $40 for a watch. When there's ones on the street are like 15 but the 40 buck watch and that little higher sometimes they had a, an actual movement that was included self winding movement inside and they had a little smooth second hand. They're perfect. There's no way unless you're a real expert at it, you could tell it wasn't a fake.

[Adam Curry]

I love the Rolexes that had the battery mechanism in it. You could literally see it going click, click, click, click, click.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

All right, so first of all I'm amazed that you were allowed to. Is it legal for you to watch a Nick Shirley documentary in California? I thought that was illegal. You can't watch it anymore. Wasn't that a Nick Shirley law?

[John C. Dvorak]

The Nick Shirley law. The Nick Shirley law was passed. But it means that Nick Shirley or anybody, no journalist, nobody can go around busting these schools or these fake operations that are all throughout California and reveal that they're run by migrants. Yeah, no, that's basically what the law was passed.

[Adam Curry]

We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, you can't. Don't want to do that. Because it's money. It's money. You know, they're funneling the money so somebody, some, some creep in the background can get all the money.

[Adam Curry]

So I think what was most interesting that happened yesterday politically speaking about Iran is. And it was kind of odd how it happened. First there was a resolution, the War Powers act was enacted which means, hey, we don't think you should do war. Which is. We've discussed this on the show a couple episodes ago. Go to bingit.IO is deemed by most to be unconstit constitutional and if Congress really wanted to stop war, they would just stop payments to the war Department. Yeah, but they don't do that. They, they send a strongly worded letter and then the President went to have lunch with him and all of a sudden Cassidy got read in and he's like, oh, yeah, no, I, I think we should probably have a do over and let's vote against it. Did you get any.

[John C. Dvorak]

I didn't hear about Cassidy going backwards.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Let me see if I have. He did. He, he got, they took him to the, to the White House and they read him in. He's like, oh, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

All, all the reporting I heard was they just got into a big argument and Cassidy's a dick.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no. Let me see if I have it here. Let me see.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on. I have, I think I have some clip on.

[Adam Curry]

I might even have a clip about it. Let me see. Let's see if this is it.

[News Anchor]

A shouting match on Capitol Hill. As the President met with Republicans behind closed doors, sources say Trump lashed out at senators voted symbolically to limit his war powers. Trump reportedly calling Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy a lunatic.

[John C. Dvorak]

He asked, why would anybody vote for the war powers?

[Adam Curry]

As he continued, I said, is that a rhetorical question or would you like to.

[News Anchor]

Really?

[Adam Curry]

He said, I'd like to know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I stood and said, you have not

[Adam Curry]

told the American people what's going on.

[News Anchor]

Cassidy, who recently lost his reelection bid, admits losing his temper.

[Adam Curry]

I'm not going to be bullied when I'm trying to get answers from the American people. Yeah, that's not the clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, here's a clip from the BBC. That is the one that I was kind of basing stuff on. This is Trump war powers Cassidy.

[Andy Ngo]

President Trump has had a fiery, closed

[Adam Curry]

door meeting with Republicans in the US Senate where he confronted them over a

[Andy Ngo]

vote on Tuesday when four Republicans joined

[Adam Curry]

Democrats in rebuking him over the Iran war. More details from Howard Griffith.

[Andy Ngo]

The President's daily assertion that the war in Iran has gone very well hasn't convinced everyone within his own party. A meeting with Republican senators intended to ease relations is said to have become angry and confrontational. There were reports of a shouting match between Mr. Trump and one critical Senator Bill Cassidy. He sided with Democrats on a measure calling for military action to be halted unless Congress gave its approval. Mr. Trump is said to have demanded that Mr. Cassidy sit down as he questioned the President. The center later told reporters he wouldn't be bullied.

[Adam Curry]

Here's the article. This is from abc. In reversal, Senate votes to block war powers resolution delivering Trump a win. Hours after President Donald Trump blasted Senator Bill Cassidy for supporting a war powers resolution that narrowly passed the Senate on Tuesday, Cassidy helped to deliver Trump a victory by voting with the majority of Republicans late Wednesday to block a separate resolution aimed at reining in the President's war powers. And even Rand Paul voted present instead of against. So, and apparently, from what I understand, Rubio, I think it was Rubio, took Cassidy back to the White House, sat him down and said, look, here's what's going on. We're trying to ruin the British Empire and the. And the City of London.

[John C. Dvorak]

You'd think, yeah, he did that. I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, so. So shut up. And then he went back and they voted. They voted. They voted against it. So now clearly the news, the news has not told us this and we still think that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, we do. In fact, I'm gonna. All these clips I have, just back me up. And don't give me the obvious new news. They didn't bring it up.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or the Rubio part, which would be Rubio that would have to pull that stunt.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's listen to a couple. There's a couple of things here. This. Try this. Trump, gas prices, war powers.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Okay.

[News Reporter]

President Trump tonight at the massive Pennsylvania plant that makes Mack trucks, touting the US Economy with himself in the driver's seat.

[Donald Trump]

Oil is going to come charging down. And with oil charging everything else pointing

[News Reporter]

to falling oil and gas prices after the preliminary peace deal with Iran. Ship tracking data showing crossings through the Strait of Hormuz nearly tripling this week, but with traffic still below pre war levels. And now a new flashpoint has emerged in the negotiations. The US Saying Iran has agreed to allow UN Nuclear inspectors in, but the Iranian regime claims it made no new commitments. The President was asked about those denials today.

[Donald Trump]

They're wrong. They know they're wrong. They told us inside and we have it down.

[Adam Curry]

That's the same clip where he said, we're going to take their money and buy soy. I'm sure that the NBC left that part out.

[Donald Trump]

Right. I canceled the meetings.

[News Reporter]

Right now, the President set to speak with Republican senators largely skeptical of the initial deal behind closed doors tomorrow.

[Adam Curry]

I think we've got to give the President an opportunity to get his work done while at the same time making clear that none of us trust the Iranians.

[Donald Trump]

I think anybody that's been critical of it has to be educated, even if they're friends of mine, because we have Iran in a position that nobody's ever had. Everything has been wiped out.

[News Reporter]

But tonight, the Senate, with a rare rebuke of the President's war effort in Iran, joining the House in voting to direct the President to end it or seek congressional approval. Four Republicans joining nearly all Democrats to pass the symbolic resolution which does not have the force of law.

[News Anchor]

Garrett is joining us now from the North Lawn. And Garrett, you are just getting in a new response from the White House to that Senate vote. What does it say?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[News Reporter]

Hall. A White House official tells NBC News that in their view, this vote has no significance. The resolution won't even go to the

[Adam Curry]

president's desk to be vetoed.

[News Reporter]

And the Democrats have pushed this effort to end a war that the White House says is now already open.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I thought you were going to play this bit, which is about the gas prices.

[News Anchor]

Trump also tackling another issue, gas prices. He's asking the Justice Department to investigate whether oil companies are price gouging, keeping prices at the pump high even as oil prices fall in the wake of the Iran peace. Steel.

[Donald Trump]

The oil prices have come down so much and we are not seeing anything at the pump by comparison the way it should be. We should be, in my opinion, at $2.25 right now at the pump and we're higher than that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

He's threatening to investigate. Investigate price fixing, which is.

[John C. Dvorak]

These guys, they don't react that quickly.

[Adam Curry]

No, it takes.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're filled up. The gas stations are filled with expensive gasoline. They got to sell at expensive prices.

[Adam Curry]

He should know that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know what to do. That's something. He's just.

[Adam Curry]

He's just.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that showboating there. He did that.

[Adam Curry]

He did that speech, which is the beginning of your clip. He brought out an old routine, but he delivered it so much better this time about the most favored nation status for medicine. The fat pill bit.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he. With his buddy. The guy was still fat.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's so good.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just. You have it?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I have it.

[Donald Trump]

Of course, under my administration, the most favored nation agreements on drug prices that we just did are delivering the largest prescription drug price cuts in history with numbers like 400, 500, and even a 600% reduction from where it was.

[Adam Curry]

How does that work? Help me understand the numbers. If something is a hundred dollars and you have a 600% reduction, is it then do you get $600 paid? Do they give you $600?

[Donald Trump]

Just.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a mathematical trick.

[Adam Curry]

It's not good.

[Donald Trump]

Think of that. That alone should win us the midterm. And the fake news back there refuses to talk about it because they know how good it is, is because they can't produce it. They've been trying to do it for years. Favorite nation. We paid the highest drug price in the world by far. As an example for the fat drug, which Bo and Tony don't need to take.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know who Beau and Tony are. They're probably, you know, the machinists there. But now he gets into his favorite bit and he really, he does a good job this time.

[Donald Trump]

But a lot of people are taking. Who takes the fat drug. So in New York, think of it, it was costing a fortune, many, many times it was costing $1300 and in London it was $87. And a friend of mine who's extremely fat, sloppy, but very brilliant. He's a brilliant businessman, but he's a slob, there's no question. Very neurotic person, which you need sometimes to be successful. But he called me up, he used to call me Donnie, Donnie. Now he calls me Mr. President. That's a sign of great respect. But he said, president, I just came over here and I bought. I won't say Ozempic or whatever the hell it was, but I bought the fat drug. I said, I didn't know you use it because it's not working.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's a trick.

[Donald Trump]

That's a good one. He's begging me not to use his name, so I won't. But he's a very successful guy. He's actually a pretty well known guy. Brilliant business guy, worth a lot of money. And he checked, he just, you know, he said, well, how come in London I just sent out and I'm paying $87 and in New York I'm paying $1300? I said, because that's the way the prices are rigged.

[Adam Curry]

I just thought it was great. It's not working.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he didn't digest. It's a bit. It's smoother, it's good.

[Adam Curry]

It's really good. I think it's nice. It's funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

At least there's some funny. There's some funny in there. See how we are yammering about the. About America. 250 about the fair. It's no good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah, I got a rundown from the BBC on the fair. It's a little long, but it covers everything. 250 Fair rundown BBC.

[Andy Ngo]

The 4th of July this year marks two and a half centuries.

[Adam Curry]

These are really over modulated.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know how I got that way.

[Adam Curry]

Well, operator error is what I say.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's what I'd have to assume.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[Andy Ngo]

The fourth of July this year marks two and a half centuries since the adoption of the Declaration of independence in 1776. And Donald Trump has just opened the Great American State Fair in Washington. It's described as an exposition across the Capitol, which will celebrate various aspects of American culture and history.

[Donald Trump]

Those timeless American principles did not just win a revolution, but they built us into the greatest, strongest and most exceptional nation the world has ever known. There has never been anything like the United States of America. And together we are making it bigger and better and stronger and far more exceptional than ever before.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exceptional.

[Andy Ngo]

So we're calling it the semi quincentennial celebration, which is a real mouthful. I spoke to our correspondent who's at the event, Hal Griffith. It's a mixture of nostalgia, Talking about the USA's 250 year history and pulling on that sort of a state fair and childhood memories that some people have. And then, yes, it's also got the hallmarks of a Trump rally. Lots of MAGA hats, plenty of stars and stripes. And the main act, the President himself, who after some musicians pulled out, is at the top of this bill. Yeah, just tell us what the festivities will involve over the next few days. And it seems like the celebration's gone for weeks. Yeah, 16 days all together in what? Well, one person from the stage described would be the most epic party in all American history. What does it mean? Well, it means lots of stalls on the Mall between the monument and Capitol Hill. And then events like this where people come out and cheer, hear some singing, and get all patriotic together. If you want to spend $20 on roast turkey or maybe some pretty pretzels. And there's lots of food from around America on offer as well. So, as I said, it's drawing on that sort of sense of nostalgia and patriotism. But there are political overtones and a military overtone as well. In fact, we just had a B2 bomber fly over at the end of one song and the words military might come up on the screen, showing American military dominance and sending that message that America sees itself as the most powerful country in the world.

[Adam Curry]

That's right, limey. That's right. That's who we are. We have people from Fredericksburg. They're all going together and they're all.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're gonna go to this thing. Oh, yeah, I'd love to go to it.

[Donald Trump]

They.

[Adam Curry]

They're excited. They're taking the kids. They've. They got all their American flag outfits, of course, because it's Fourth of July, it's a big party, and then the socialists is no good. Military, mate, for you. Yeah, yeah, that's what we do. We have drill teams, we got drum cadences, We've got flyovers.

[Guest Expert]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

We rock. Come on. Now the president is getting scammed. I gotta tell you, this whole.

[John C. Dvorak]

I gotta tell you.

[Adam Curry]

I gotta tell you, he's being scammed. He doesn't know anything about AI Computers or anything. And so now this report comes out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no, you could tell because he talks about quantum.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I'm getting to that. That's the punchline. First we go back to the. My. Mythos AI Why all of a sudden we had to shut down Fable or, you know, Mythos, Fable five, Mythos, Whatever these models were. Here is the bull crap story.

[News Anchor]

So you'll recall the way that we got here is anthropic developed Mythos, and they restrained themselves from releasing it and partnered with the federal government, allowed access to a few sort of trips, trusted large players. And the concern there was that Mythos was so powerful, it could easily identify all of these security glitches where it would make it very easy for nefarious actors to hack into. Very.

[Adam Curry]

This is some quality reporting, ladies and gentlemen. We talk about security glitches. You know, it's quality so powerful, it

[News Anchor]

could easily identify all of these security glitches where it would make it very

[Adam Curry]

easy for, you know, what, Windows. That's a security glitch.

[News Anchor]

Nefarious actors to hack into various systems. Fable 5 was supposed to be Mythos with a lot of guardrails. So it was supposed to be sort of like the safe version of Mythos. Then you have Amazon reportedly coming in and saying, hey, we found some problems with Fable 5. We don't think that this is tenable. We think that this is unsafe. The Trump administration reacts. They say, okay, no foreign national can have access to this. This basically de facto makes it so that Fable 5 has. Has to be pulled. So all of that is a long way of saying, we're now getting some more information about Mythos and just how powerful and potentially concerning it really was. Let's put this Economist excerpt up on the screen here. So they said here that on June 11, Mark Warner, the vice chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said that General Joshua Rudd, who leads the National Security Agency and the Pentagon's Cyber Command, had told him Mythos broke into almost all of our classified systems. Not in weeks, but in hours. Mythos was able to break into all of our most classified systems.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so that's the story. But if you really go and dig a little bit deeper than these breaking points, people. So they did the same thing that I think was Anthropic did with the, oh, look, if you let the AI into your email, it'll start blackmailing you. This was a completely controlled environment. They found some vulnerabilities that are quite frankly not all that shocking. They didn't break in and take anything. So it's another marketing exercise by Anthropic and everyone fell for it, including our smart people within the security state. And so now that leads our president, who is totally being bamboozled, to sign the Quantum Innovation executive order.

[Donald Trump]

Quantum technologies represents the next generation of innovation across computing, sensing and networking with enormous significance for our country's economic growth, scientific research and cybersecurity. It's really a big deal that we're doing today and the country is doing really well. As you know, in 2018 I signed the National Quantum Initiative act into law, which led to doubling the federal government investment in quantum research and development. I think you all know about that. That helped unleash billions of dollars of private investment in America's quantum industrial base.

[Adam Curry]

Quantum industrial base. Quib, what is the quantum industrial base? It's nothing.

[Donald Trump]

Dollars of private investment in America's quantum industrial base promoting significant scientific and technological progress, like progress like we've never seen before. Actually, we want to keep that positive momentum going in America. With the orders that I'm signing today and these will really have a. I think.

[Adam Curry]

Let them finish.

[Donald Trump]

Step forward. We're already the leader by a lot.

[Adam Curry]

A lot.

[Donald Trump]

We're going to be now the leader

[John C. Dvorak]

by a lot more.

[Adam Curry]

The leader by a lot.

[Donald Trump]

The first executive order launches a national effort to produce a quantum computer capable of performing important scientific calculations and to develop quantum enabled sensors networks in the next five years. And we're going to be investing in American quantum leadership like never before.

[Adam Curry]

This is what a scam he's got.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he's got that one part right. Progress like we've never seen before because there's no progress. There's no progress at all.

[Adam Curry]

Here's the kicker though. He signed two quantum executive orders. This isn't much discussed, not just for quantum innovation, but also securing the nation against advanced cryptographic attacks. The so called post quantum crypto gathered in New York City because Trump had approved these two executive orders. And we knew it was time that we needed to get in gear. Right, so you guys are in gear.

[Donald Trump]

It's a race.

[News Reporter]

It's something that is going to happen

[Adam Curry]

and when it happens, it could be a calamity to humankind if we're not prepared. They're trying to get us prepared for that 100%. I mean we are bullish. We're extremely excited about quantum computing. We've seen huge leaps in innovation and quantum is a double edged sword. As much as it can contribute to the welfare and into the innovative science fields, it's a serious security threat. And that is why you see Trump not just releasing one executive order, but two. One promoting the quantum space and the technology, but a second trying to get the government to adopt new security standards. And this is a psyop that continues. Quantum's going to break Bitcoin. It's like it'll, it's going to, it may, if it ever works, it may break the cryptography on your bank login. Yeah, that would be a real problem.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you can break that anyway, which is brute force.

[Adam Curry]

Nah, that's SHA256 is kind of hard to break with brute force. I disagree. I don't think anyone has really demonstrated that. Password cracking. Yeah, but not the encryption.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's what I'm talking about. That's all it counts.

[Adam Curry]

But the encryption part. So you know, there's definitely a need for quantum safe encryption. But come on, this is, this is, this has got to be the pivot of this AI business. And I do have one other clip that I want to play about. We're so far ahead. We're miles ahead. We are winning the AI the AI race. China's International Supply Chain Expo is a

[News Reporter]

technology showcase exhibiting, for example, artificial intelligence, live translation. Even if overseas technologies are faster than China's, this woman says she believes China will catch up. The country's biggest tech news came before the Expo when the Chinese company Jeopu

[Adam Curry]

announced its new AI model.

[News Reporter]

GLM 5.2. Research firm Artificial Analysis rates it as the third most intelligent AI behind Anthropic's Claude Fable and OpenAI's ChatGPT 5.5. But better than Google's Gemini. It's also far cheaper per task, about $0.50 US compared to Fable at nearly $3.

[Adam Curry]

What is this? What is this new metric I'm hearing?

[John C. Dvorak]

$0.50 to $3 per task?

[Adam Curry]

What is this per task?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

What is that? You're asking me, is Darren O' Neill gonna have to pay $3 per per image? Is that a task?

[John C. Dvorak]

The thing is, it might be that Darren's got the whole thing localized. Jc, by the way, told me that he's got it. There is a local because you want to localize. And he says, oh yeah, that's what everyone's doing.

[Adam Curry]

That's what I says.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he's got the product for you. What is I said send him a note. Of course he didn't.

[Adam Curry]

No, of course not. But I already have a product. I have a product running right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the one he suggests is. He says that is absolutely the best. Everyone agrees with is a Chinese product. Is yours Chinese?

[Adam Curry]

The model is Chinese. Yes. Quinn.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm running. That's it. Or not.

[Andy Ngo]

I'm running.

[John C. Dvorak]

All I know is something about these Chinese models. You put them on local and you can do the whole thing.

[Guest Expert]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And everyone loves it.

[Adam Curry]

This is what I've been saying for months. It's local. Everything. Almost not everything, but a lot of what I do is local. It's fantastic. And you. And they have now models that do music local. Not that I've tried that. Images have been around for a long time. All of it. And everyone's moving towards that. These data centers. There's too many data centers. And they're going to come online in 2028. Okay, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's going to be fun.

[Adam Curry]

Let's listen to the rest of this clip.

[News Reporter]

But better than Google's Gemini, it's also far cheaper per task, about $0.50 US compared to Fable at nearly $3. Western leaders have heavily focused on AI,

[Adam Curry]

most recently meeting with the heads of

[News Reporter]

Anthropic and OpenAI at the G7 summit. Zhipu developed GLM while the US banned the export of chips needed for high tech.

[John C. Dvorak]

AI.

[News Reporter]

And the company, also known as Zai, announced its new model 24 hours after Anthropic revealed the US government ordered it to suspend foreign nationals accessing its advanced models.

[Adam Curry]

Whatever. I'm looking at the troll room and I see Darren. Oh says he to used. Uses a Mac studio. Which would mean he's. He could. He indeed might be.

[News Reporter]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

He says he's using Quinn local to do images. So the. This is where Apple is doing something very interesting. They have this unified memory. So you load up your. Your, your Mac with 128 gigabytes of memory and it can apply that to GPU or CPU processes and, and their Mac silicon is pretty good. I mean, for doing some of this. Now amd and they've got the Ryzen chip. And I read yesterday that OpenAI is coming out with a chip themselves. Everyone's going to be doing chips to put in your computers. That's what it's going to be in these data centers. Good luck.

[John C. Dvorak]

What was that noise?

[News Reporter]

I'm trying.

[Adam Curry]

I can't replicate.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was good. No, you can't. It was good.

[Adam Curry]

Good luck. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, the data center seems to be just A.

[Adam Curry]

It's a joke.

[John C. Dvorak]

I guess joke is a good word.

[Adam Curry]

So shifting gears for just a second, my boy was in D.C. went to visit the President.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which boy of your. Which boy?

[Adam Curry]

Mark Rutte. You know the NATO.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah, he was the rage.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And he had PowerPoint slides. He's like, Mr. President, let me show you. You are trillion dollar Trump. I want to show you what this President was able to achieve. And I start with this chart. This chart is about the Trump trillion

[John C. Dvorak]

shows you the Trump What? I can barely hear this.

[Adam Curry]

The Trump trillion. The Trump trillion. Trillion as in trillion dollars?

[John C. Dvorak]

The Trump trillion.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, Trump trillion. He has it right on the slides about the Trump. He made a huge mistake by going off mic on this because everyone's mics are focused on the two chairs in the Oval. And then he goes over into his PowerPoint.

[John C. Dvorak]

Somebody's got to teach him a lesson.

[Adam Curry]

Trump trillion, trillion. The Trump trillion shows you the increase Europeans and Canadians are paying into defense since you took office in 2017. A trillion dollars from the Canadians and Europeans. This is fantastic, right? Trump 45 plus Trump 47 together suspend by the Europeans and the Canadians of 1.2 trillion. When you look at the effects of Trump 47, so the isolated effect of the extra defense spending in 2025 and 2026, you see almost $140 billion extra spent nominal. Anyway, he goes on and on about a trillion dollars that we are spend at Europe and Canada. Canada are spending on American weapons. It is jobs, many jobs and it is great. Thank you Mr. President. You are the best. That was the whole point of his. The audio is pretty bad actually.

[John C. Dvorak]

So good for him.

[Adam Curry]

There's that. It was kind of nice to see Rand Paul definitely trying to pick up on the Fauci thing after Tulsi Gabbard.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, trying.

[Adam Curry]

He's trying. This is, this is short.

[Donald Trump]

Anthony Fauci has been influencing the process and, and it from the very beginning looks like his interference in a lot of different segments. His interference in the scientific journal articles, interference in intel. But he had a 40 year abuse of power career. People talk about J. Edgar Hoover. J. Edgar Hoover's got nothing on Anthony Fauci.

[Adam Curry]

40 years of placing all his lieutenants in all the positions and then after

[Donald Trump]

9 11, the funding for bio research and bioterrorism went through the roof and he became the kingpin that, that had

[Adam Curry]

access to all of that money.

[Donald Trump]

So it just, you know, I go on for hundreds of pages in my book talking about this because the abuses

[Adam Curry]

of power and what he did are you know, endless. So, you know, he gets an interview with the New York Post on their video on their website, and he can't get anywhere else because ABC has much more important bio news.

[News Anchor]

If the thought of mice and rats makes your skin crawl, then the phrase mutating m probably sounds like something out of a horror movie.

[Adam Curry]

But mutating mice, who cares about fauci? We've got mutating mice.

[News Anchor]

Researchers say it's a real growing problem right here in Philadelphia.

[Adam Curry]

They show a much higher mutation frequency than we thought before, so surprise. Yes, it is.

[News Anchor]

A recent Rutgers University study found that mice are genetically evolving to become resistant to the poison designed to kill them, also called rodenticides. The researchers looked at samples from New York City, Washington, D.C. new Jersey and Philadelphia and its surrounding suburbs.

[Adam Curry]

From those samples, we found that about

[News Anchor]

70% of the mice populations contain mutations. They studied rats too. Don't worry, they're not mutating yet. But they are still evolving. Learning how to outsmart extermination efforts.

[Adam Curry]

I love rotating rodenticide. I think that's a cool title, Rodenticide. Have you ever heard of it? Categorized as rodenticide?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, of course.

[Adam Curry]

I never heard of that. Never heard of that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, let's go to this story then. Talking about gloom and doom, how about the Tesla strikes the home?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that happened in Texas. That was. I don't know if they figured out yet if it was on autopilot or not.

[News Reporter]

At the end of a cul de sac in Katy, Texas just outside Houston, a doorbell camera captured a Tesla crashing into a house at high speed. 76 year old Martha Avila was standing in the front room. She was pronounced dead at the hospital. The Harris County Sheriff's department says 44 year old driver Michael Butler told them he had automated driving assistance engaged and failed to drive in a single lane, left the roadway and struck the residents. Law enforcement says they found no signs of intoxication.

[News Anchor]

This is from the back.

[News Reporter]

Avila's daughter Jennifer Barber took this video.

[John C. Dvorak]

She was just in the wrong place

[Adam Curry]

at the wrong time.

[News Reporter]

Speaking with our Houston station khou, she described the horror of seeing her mother.

[News Anchor]

She was pinned against the wall because

[Adam Curry]

he pushed her fridge like against her.

[News Reporter]

Tesla has not responded to CBS News multiple requests for comment. In a safety report, the company says Tesla's in self driving mode paired with a human's quote, active supervision have fewer collisions per mile driven than the estimated US vehicle averages. Even in automated driving mode, Tesla emphasizes drivers are responsible for being in control of the vehicle at all times. Unlike this driver in video captured on an Atlanta freeway last week.

[Adam Curry]

Of course.

[Guest Expert]

And when these systems are working, it's

[Adam Curry]

almost impossible to pay attention the right way. It invites you to not pay attention.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know if it's his fault or is it the car's fault or

[News Anchor]

like what really happens.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think this brings a couple of things to mind. One, Eula, first of all, Elon says that the car couldn't be going that fast under with the auto driving because it does. It's not allowed to in resident residential areas, period. And so he says something's fishy.

[Adam Curry]

That's possible.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the other thing is, we haven't talked about it on the show and I think we probably should get some clips and talk about a little bit. But the new laws that were passed for 2026 vehicles that have to have, they have to have cameras in them to watch your eyeballs, make sure you're not falling asleep. And they can be taken over. They can be. The kill switch.

[Adam Curry]

Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

Has been implemented in all the 2026 cars.

[Adam Curry]

Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

And which means I'm not going to buy a 2026 car because it's not only got a kill switch, it's the number of factors. One, it has a kill switch. Two, it can be turned off remotely. Three, it can be controlled remotely. So they can drive you off a cliff.

[Adam Curry]

They, I think you should wait for the 2028 model. It'll be more much better.

[John C. Dvorak]

And, and then there's also the aspect of hackers.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

The. If anybody doesn't think that hackers can't bypass whatever they're trying to pull in 2026, I don't care, especially the, you know, the engineers who put together something. I don't care if it's Ford or Toyota. Those engineers, those software engineers that work for Ford and Toyota are not, I mean they're not dummies, but they're not the kind of guys that are hackers. The real killer guys, the guys who, you know, get paid the enormous amount of money or they're just fun loving screwballs like Bemrose Benrose would be probably in that league.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

But we have a number of them in that league. Kobe, I think is probably, definitely in that league.

[Adam Curry]

He should start a new business.

[John C. Dvorak]

So some of these guys are jokers and they would love to just take a car and just, you know, drive alongside and just kill it, turn it off remotely or make the guy weave or something or, you know, or go. Or in the case of a evildoer, have you Drive off a cliff. This is. And there's something very suspicious about this wreck.

[Adam Curry]

I think we have acid in the troll room. Says this is actually my job. Says cars are quite well secured, but they had to catch up a little bit. We'll send this boots on the ground, man. I'd like to know. I'm sure there's a eula once you open the door.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just want to do a little off topic here. Okay. Because I'm going to ask you a question because this came up on the DH Unplug show. Me and Horowitz and Andrew's moment.

[Adam Curry]

By the way, that's Tuesdays. DH unplugged. Dhumplugged.com Closer to the pin show. Fantastic. Brought to you by Interactive Brokers.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, they dropped our sponsorship.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, they dropped the sponsorship.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Now we're just going for begging for money.

[Adam Curry]

Support those guys with some value for value.

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought it was unfair, but it's live.

[Adam Curry]

Nine o' clock Eastern, eight central. Do your own calculation for Alaska, Hawaii.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a very good show. This came up in the conversation and I'm going to ask you about it.

[Guest Expert]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I, because I asked the kids and I asked everybody out, out here and everyone's going, what are you talking about? Horowitz is under the impression that the entire country has been caught up in a Ma Jong fad where everybody wants to play Ma Jong now.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, he is correct. He is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that out here.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you're not part of the country. There are multi here in Fredericksburg, so it may only be red states, but here in Fredericksburg there are multiple mahjong clubs. I know personally of a woman who has a mahjong room specifically to play mahjong. And I have to say my wife, the keeper has gone to a mahjong meetup up with some of these women. There is indeed a mahjong mania taking place.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I would like to hear from some of the people out there who find their. A mahjong desert. In other words, no mahjong. Because this is. This whole thing sounds ludicrous.

[Adam Curry]

Hallmark just had a mahjong movie. These, these trends, they happen. I mean, it's like twisted. Yeah, Twister.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's just like Twister.

[Adam Curry]

You know, the ladies, they get together, they play a much and all you hear is clickety clockety, clickity cluckity, clickety clackity. Oh, the mahjong. Oh, she has a beautiful mah Jong set. It's a pure ivory. It's just so fantastic. It's beautiful. She Has a mahjong room. Yes. Yeah, this. This is true.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right. Well, I stand moderately corrected.

[Adam Curry]

We'd like to hear Boots on the ground for sure on this. We'd like to get a little more detail from more than just Texas and Florida. But I myself was. Was surprised.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm noticing that there's a coincidence, Texas and Florida both, that neither one have per state income taxes. Maybe it's just that because they have

[Adam Curry]

no income tax, they play mahjong.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. This is correlation means causation.

[Adam Curry]

That means Washington state.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. This should be happening there. I have to, because Mimi has not reported this.

[Adam Curry]

I remember back in the late 70s in Holland, there was also a mah jongg craze. And all the ladies were playing mah jongg. All of my friends, mothers were playing mah jong. I think I might have even learned how to play it at some point. I wouldn't remember. Aren't you matching things? Matching cymbals?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. I've never played it. There's games. I don't know. I don't know. Mahjong. I don't know. Canasta. I have no idea how that's played.

[Adam Curry]

Do you know how to play backgammon?

[John C. Dvorak]

I do know how to play backgammon. I'm pretty good at it.

[Adam Curry]

I forgot.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I don't know how to play P. Knuckle.

[Adam Curry]

Even the word makes me not want to play it. I wonder. I wonder if there's a mahjong league or something.

[Guest Expert]

What's that?

[Adam Curry]

Book of Knowledge. Is there a mahjong league or national club in the United States? I haven't talked to the Book of Knowledge at all. He's feeling a little bit lonely. So let's see if he has a mahjong league or national club according to the Book of knowledge.

[Donald Trump]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

In 1937, a number of mahjong enthusiasts met in New York City to standardize the game. And it was at that meeting that the Cha National Mahjong League was founded.

[Guest Expert]

It is now celebrating 89 years of mahjong.

[Adam Curry]

And the league started with 32 members and today numbers over 350,000.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

It has been raised 350,000. Oh, my. My, oh, my.

[John C. Dvorak]

I wonder what the prize is.

[Adam Curry]

Nothing. Oh, well, they playing for money? They might play for money.

[Andy Ngo]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got a couple clips here that are kind of hanging out. I've been wanting to get rid of terrorism in Canada.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

By the way, the key is. Wait, wait. I told the Canadians we have a lot of Canadian listeners And we're not giving them enough attention. And I do want to say that Canada Day is coming on July 1st, and we're going to celebrate it.

[Adam Curry]

We will be celebrating. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. What we are dealing with in this case is a recurring and similar modus operandi, and that is criminals for hire.

[News Anchor]

At a press conference, Toronto Police Chief Myron Demke linking 2027 Toronto area shootings, including incidents at synagogues and the U.S. consulate in March.

[Adam Curry]

Young people are hired to carry out attacks against various targets. And in order to get paid, they're required to film their attacks.

[News Anchor]

There are multiple networks operating like this, say police. They're working with the RCMP and FBI to figure out who is hiring the shooters. All young, all. All recruited through encrypted apps like Signal Telegram and WhatsApp. Chief Superintendent Joe Matthews.

[Adam Curry]

Multiple people are recruiting multiple youth in each cell.

[News Reporter]

We're aware of that.

[Adam Curry]

We just do not know the scope of it.

[News Anchor]

While investigating the shootings, Toronto Police Constable Mark Pinzotto was shot and killed during an early morning raid on an apartment building last week. Three people have since been arrested, two in connection with the consulate shooting, one of them unconsciously conscious in hospital. Facing first degree murder charges. In Pinizado's death, a fourth person is still at large. Linda Pinizado is the officer's mother. Our family is going to make a plea to the general public.

[John C. Dvorak]

Please support our police.

[Andy Ngo]

Huh.

[Adam Curry]

I wonder if it's antifa.

[John C. Dvorak]

It probably is. That's interesting. Yeah. So they have this issue going on up there. This is Canada's kind of falling apart.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know if you noticed.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, I noticed. People don't see.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the Canadians that are complaining about it, you know, Canadians are good at complaining, but I don't know if they can complain their way out of this one.

[News Anchor]

Police will have to access the messaging apps and use wiretaps in their investigation or get the suspects they've arrested to flip says.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay, so this is a. Sorry, we have to spy on you now. Canadians.

[News Anchor]

Ian Scott, former director of the Ontario Special Investigations Unit.

[Donald Trump]

Flip.

[John C. Dvorak]

The ones at the bottom of the food chain. We want them to give us the information. Who's hiring these individuals? What's the connection?

[News Anchor]

Last month, the FBI arrested Iraqi Iranian national Mohamed Al Saudi, a Senior Member of U.S. designated Terrorist Organization Katab Hezbollah and Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. He's allegedly targeted, tied to nearly 20 attacks and attempted attacks internationally. In the indictment, Al Saudi is accused of planning, coordinating and claiming responsibility for those attacks, including two in Canada. One believed to be the consulate shooting criminologist Michael Arndfield.

[News Reporter]

You may have a transnational group or some kind of organized entity that has

[Adam Curry]

really a bottomless well of potential contractors. They've arrested some, there'll be others out there.

[News Reporter]

So the key is to break up the network before more shooters can be recruited.

[News Anchor]

While Toronto police won't confirm whether there's a connection with Al Saudi, they're confident these criminal networks extend beyond Toronto with a goal of creating fear in our communities.

[Adam Curry]

Nah, I'm going to have to counter this. This is not Iran, this is clearly Israel because that is their plan. You see, Israel plans to have all kinds of false flags. Blame it on Iran and they might even light off a nuke and blame it on Iran. And if you don't believe me, believe Tucker Carlson. We know Israel tends to double down, especially with the Likudniks. Now we have all these intelligence people and military over there saying we need a new 911 to show America to get in line. Iran's about to do a new 9 11. Oh yeah, yeah. We know who was heavily involved in 9 11, clearly the Likudniks, Israel, along

[News Reporter]

with some of their own elements.

[Adam Curry]

Bare minimum, stand down Building 7, you know, the bombs in the buildings. So I'm really concerned that all Israel has left is nuclear blackmail and, or

[News Reporter]

a nuclear false flag or something like

[Adam Curry]

it to blame Iran. I really think that's on the table. What does Tucker Carlson think?

[News Reporter]

I think you're clearly right. I mean, they're saying it out loud so we're not guessing. I mean, you just interpret their statements which need very little interpretation cuz they're pretty direct statements and I think they reflect reality.

[Adam Curry]

That's reality. That's reality.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know what reality? Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, well, this is, this whole Tucker thing has taken a whole new turn and it stems from one quote. He's been doing a lot of interviews. One quote and one interview. Here's the quote.

[News Reporter]

How could I or any American voter support a political party that's not loyal to the United States, that puts the interest of a foreign country above those of its own citizens? Like that's, you know, it's not possible to vote for people like that. So no, I'm out. And if I'm out, then I think a lot of other people are out.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, if he's out, you left the

[John C. Dvorak]

beginning of that clip off.

[Adam Curry]

No, there's more important clips. There's more important. Do you have it? No, there's more important clips because.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm Just saying, the beginning clips is, I'm not voting Republican.

[Andy Ngo]

That's.

[Adam Curry]

No, he's out. He's out of the Republican Party. Marjorie Taylor Greene. If Tucker's out, I'm out. Oh, if Tucker. Everyone's gonna leave the Republican Party.

[Donald Trump]

Tucker's out.

[Adam Curry]

Everybody's going to leave the Republican Party. And here's.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's where the old phrase tuckered out comes from.

[Adam Curry]

And here's the. I love this clip. This is. This is Tucker on. Who's this? This is some kid. Everyone's trying to be a younger Joe Rogan right now. This is. I can't remember. Neil or something.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, people should just be themselves.

[Adam Curry]

Listen to this.

[News Reporter]

I mean, Trump is, again, a slave of other. He's not running anything. Right. He's a. He's subject to the whims of others. I did my best to sell Trump. The idea of Trump to people on the basis of claims that are now clearly false. So I. I did that. I just grieve for what his decisions in the Middle east have done to the country, and not just the war with Iran, but being a slave of Israel. What? You're an American, dude.

[Andy Ngo]

This is.

[News Reporter]

This is humiliating to you. Not that I care, but to me, I do care and my country, I care a lot. You can't be a slave to a foreign power. Stop.

[Adam Curry]

So President Trump is a slave to Israel. This is playing right into either Tucker's insane desire to always be successful in broadcasting, which I think is most likely. And it's a genius position to take because you're gonna get a lot of people who are gonna be watching you and listening to you doing this. It's kind of along the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, clip the crap out of him

[Adam Curry]

right there, of course, but this. We deconstruct media, so that's the whole point of our show. This is media. Podcasting is valid, but it also could be that maybe he actually does want to run for president, or has some. Let's hope, me, too. And if anything, he's trying to clear the field by connecting other possible contenders to Israel.

[News Reporter]

But I do think to the extent the United States government can influence Israel, one is with the stick, which is funding no mas. We're not going to pay for any more civilians in Lebanon or Gaza or the West Bank. But also the carrot, which is. It's okay. It would be helpful if somebody. Marco Rubio is a close friend of Israel, been supported almost exclusively by the Israeli lobby and the Cuban lobby his entire political career.

[Adam Curry]

He's got a million. This is. This is how we take out Rubio. Rubio is. He's with Israel. Is with Israel.

[News Reporter]

Friends there, including the prime Minister, you'd think it would be helpful for the Secretary of State and national Security advisor to go over to Israel and say, let's just tone it down a little bit. There will be a tomorrow. Like, you're talking yourselves into an apocalypse that doesn't need to happen. Like, please, you know, the kind of. The helpful outsider offering perspective. You know, when you're. Some disaster happens in your life and your best friend comes over, your college roommate shows up to have a beer and says, it's going to be okay tomorrow. And that's like the pivotal moment. That's the beginning of recovery. No one has done that for Israel, and I don't know why. Because it's in our interest to calm Israel down. Because as you just said correctly, it's not a conspiracy theory. They are kind of out of options other than to do something really crazy where lots of innocents die. And I don't see how that's good for anyone.

[Adam Curry]

Well, so I think if Tucker, if we have a Tucker Massie ticket, that would be totally the way to go. Tucker Massey, 2028.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank.

[Adam Curry]

Thank the Lord that Alex Jones just asked him straight up, do you want to put the rumors to bed here? You're not planning to run for president, or are you?

[News Reporter]

Of course I'm not planning to run for president. No, I mean, of course I've done, you know, I've never said or done anything that would suggest I have an interest in political office, because I don't. I never have had an interest in political office ever. That's not kind of what I do for a living. It's not what I'm interested in. I really don't like politicians. One of the things I regret, and I've always liked Trump, I'll just say personally, I don't know why, because he's hilarious, funny, and there are a couple of other. He's very funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

Funny.

[Adam Curry]

He's very funny. He's very funny. So maybe Joe just wants to be a. Joe Tucker wants to be the next Joe Rogan who will be credited. And I doubt that Joe Rogan really helped Trump become the 47th president. But it does seem like Tucker wants to be in the game. Well, you said, you said God would have to appear to you for you

[Donald Trump]

to run to president.

[Adam Curry]

So should we all pray that Jesus appear to you and tell you to run for president?

[News Reporter]

Oh, I don't wanna. I don't wanna run for president. You wanna be involved in offering an option of some kind. I don't know what that would look like, but it's.

[Andy Ngo]

It's.

[News Reporter]

It's not democracy when no matter who you vote for, you get the same result. Tucker, you know you'd beat.

[Adam Curry]

You know you'd beat Marco Rubio. I mean, you need to run for president.

[News Reporter]

It's just like the options are Gavin Newsom and Marco Rubio. I don't think. I mean, this is. I know Trump is very convinced that Gavin has his shot. And Gavin has an advantage in that he's a sociopath who will say anything without.

[Guest Expert]

With.

[News Reporter]

While passing a lie detector.

[Adam Curry]

And he can talk, unlike. Unlike Kamala.

[News Reporter]

Oh, he can talk. Oh, he can talk. And by the way, Marco is an underrated talker. He's an excellent talker.

[Andy Ngo]

Oh, yeah.

[News Reporter]

Speaks without note, but both of those guys. I mean, come on. Is that really the option?

[Adam Curry]

There you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

So that was. You're right. Excuse me. That was a takedown of Rubio.

[Adam Curry]

No, totally.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, the gratuitous little aspect of having. Discussing newsome was. Was meaningless. That was aimed at Rubio. That was a Rubio hit piece.

[Adam Curry]

Yep, yep. So.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I don't think it was very well executed. Well, I mean, hit pieces. I'm very familiar with how they work in journalism. And

[Guest Expert]

you.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was very poor, poorly done. They got nothing. That got nowhere. That did nothing to hurt Rubio in any way, shape or form. All it did was hurt Tucker by. By indicating to us, or you in particular, that Tucker's out to get Rubio. You know, it was just. It was signaling, I think, Was signaling wasn't very well done.

[Adam Curry]

I. I think Tucker, you know, this is the same Tucker who used to wear the bow tie.

[John C. Dvorak]

The same Tucker who lives in Qatar. Qatar. He's got a house there. He loves the place.

[Adam Curry]

He. He had the bow tie back in the 90s. The bow tie guy, you know, he's a chameleon, and he's a media chameleon.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he was on msnbc, then he was working for cnn, then he worked for Fox. Yeah, yeah. The only other guy was. Was like, that was this guy. It was. It was Schwartz or wasn't it? Was it Ed Schwartz who was on Schwartz? Yeah, there was. The guy was on msnbc and he was like a real. He was. Early days of the show, we used to clip him. Schwartz, I think was his last name. I think it was Ed Schwartz. And then he went to. Next thing you know, he's working at rt.

[Adam Curry]

No, that wasn't Schwartz, Wasn't it Ed Schwartz?

[John C. Dvorak]

Somebody in the chat room may know who I'm talking about.

[Adam Curry]

No, I think it was Schultz. Wasn't it Schultz?

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought it was Schwartz.

[Adam Curry]

Ed Schultz. Ed Schultz. Here he is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Schultz.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, Ed Schultz. Just moments ago, the United states Senate voted 62 to 36. This was the scene in the United States Senate, only three 36 Democrats.

[Andy Ngo]

That's him.

[Adam Curry]

That's Ed Schultz.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's the guy.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Schultz, Schwartz.

[Guest Expert]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

He was a big Republican hater on msnbc. Then he went to RT where he became a Democrat hater.

[Adam Curry]

So I think that Tucker is doing a smart media move here. I mean, there is, there's.

[John C. Dvorak]

By being a big phony.

[Adam Curry]

Well, yeah, that's what he's always been, a phony. He doesn't know what he said. He's like, I never. Those words never left my mouth. Yeah, I never said. I can't imagine I ever said that. No, he. He sees the audience and the audience is sitting right in our troll room. What's the guy's name? I can't remember the. Come on. Post. The guy who already started before we even start the show. Can't wait to hear how Israel is holy and great. That guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

That guy.

[Adam Curry]

I'm trying to figure. I'm trying to look for Tucker.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is Tucker. He hasn't get out of the chat room.

[Adam Curry]

Hasn't posted in an hour. Oh, that's too bad. One is many. His name is One is Many. One is many. But this is. The audience is there and it's a big audience. The audience who truly believes that Israel is to blame for all of our problems, including your hangnail. It's all that Trump is controlled by Netanyahu. The entire Congress is controlled by aipac. Heaven forbid that they were controlled by AARP or the national association of Realtors who are. Well, AIPAC is Lockheed, indirectly. That's Lockheed money.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's true.

[Adam Curry]

It's Lockheed money. It's all military industrial complex. They are controlled by the military industrial complex for sure. But that's not Israel. Anyway, we've been through this a million times.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

We're never gonna convince anybody who doesn't. Who just. It's the Elders of the. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It's true. I have the book. We read the. Read the mud, read the documents. Got it right here. 9, 11, false flag and blame it on the red. They're crazy. Tucker, what do you say? Going to be president.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was pretty good, right? The end. Caught it, nailed it.

[Adam Curry]

Pretty good, right?

[John C. Dvorak]

That Brings us to Candace. Another genius.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, man. Man. Did I tell you about the. The guy on the no Agenda group who was posting about. He says that you never talk about Canvas because you have a relationship with Rode, and it was a Rode microphone that killed Charlie. I guess you hadn't heard that one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, my goodness.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you get all kinds of. Listen, listen.

[Adam Curry]

I love them.

[John C. Dvorak]

The genius of Candace Owens.

[Adam Curry]

I love it when people do that. I'm just like, wow, thank you for putting an X on your face so I can pray for you.

[News Anchor]

Okay, I have to tell you guys something before we get into comments, because I need to know that I'm not the only person who didn't know this. Okay, I didn't know this, but also Savannah didn't know this, so at least two of us didn't know this. I was gonna walk with my husband and it was thundering, I think. And I was like, oh, no big deal. We can keep walking because there's no lightning. And he was like, what do you mean by that? And I said, you know, like, it's just thunder. Lightning is the problem. And then my husband was like, you know that it can't thunder without lightning, right? That lightning. That thunder is the sound of lightning. My mind was completely blown. I promise you, in my 35 years of living, I had never heard that. And I just need to know in the live chat right now if this is just a girl thing because me and Savannah didn't know this or is this literally just me and Savannah? Are the only people in the entire world didn't know this, or are you shaken to your core as I was yesterday has. As Savannah was this morning learning that thunder is the sound of lightning. I don't know, guys. I have to just kind of share with you random tidbits of my life.

[Adam Curry]

Are you sure this isn't the. Whatever, girls. What is this? What are you trying. What kind of fast one are you trying to pull on us right here?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, nothing. You know, I watched this over and over trying to figure out if it was AI. I can't determine that it is. I think it's real.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, could be.

[News Anchor]

Be.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I think she's that dumb.

[Adam Curry]

Well, hold on a second. You're the guy now on X posting AI videos. Very poorly done, I might add.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're not that poorly done and in fact, it's going to be poorly done of the day, so don't kill the tip of the day before we get to it.

[Adam Curry]

They're poorly done and it's It's. It's obviously not credible that Joe Biden says that he listens to the no Agenda podcast. That's clearly. You know, it's like, okay, you don't think it's like a boomer move from

[John C. Dvorak]

a boomer, then there you go. You're insulting your elders.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

All you wanted to do is insult boomers. This is ageism at his. At its peak. Peak ageism with you calling this boomer.

[Adam Curry]

If I really want.

[John C. Dvorak]

I didn't write the code.

[Adam Curry]

If I really wanted to do ageism, I'd call you from the great generation,

[John C. Dvorak]

which I'm not.

[Adam Curry]

No. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not that old, but I'm old.

[Adam Curry]

So how about this? Why don't you have your little robot generate a Candace Owens for us? And it should be something like this. Israel is not responsible for anything. Just ask John and Adam. They know it all. Go listen to the no Agenda show. This is what. And although it's kind of sketchy, Adam has relationships with Road, who won't send me a free box after all the promotion I've done for them because, well, I.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, that thesis about road, I think, is valid.

[Adam Curry]

What do you mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

You hate them.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but what they're saying is we don't talk about Candace because.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, we don't talk about Candace because it clips like the one I just played. She's an idiot.

[Adam Curry]

So the thesis goes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hmm.

[Adam Curry]

You never talk about Candace Owens, probably because of your relationship with Roe, who have Israeli engineers who engineered the microphone that killed Charlie Kirk.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's a bit much.

[Adam Curry]

That's a great thesis. It's great. And then there's all those AI images of Bibi Netanyahu handing Erica Kirk a Golden Road Microphone Award.

[John C. Dvorak]

I didn't see these. You should forward these or post them.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, man.

[John C. Dvorak]

Since we're on the topic, I want to. I got three. Whatever, girls. Clips. I want to play one.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just one of them.

[Adam Curry]

Just one. All right, one. We'll play one. Here we go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, let's play number eight.

[Adam Curry]

Eight it is. What decade was World War I? I'm gonna say 1920.

[News Anchor]

1860s.

[Adam Curry]

1860s.

[News Anchor]

Okay, 1850, 15.

[Andy Ngo]

Go ahead.

[Donald Trump]

17.

[News Reporter]

90s.

[John C. Dvorak]

I skipped history.

[Adam Curry]

What was the primary decade of World War II? 1990s? 1950s.

[News Anchor]

It was 1900.

[Adam Curry]

That's century. What's the decade? It's a difference.

[Guest Expert]

What?

[Adam Curry]

What's the difference between a decade and a century is what you're asking.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, 1800.

[Adam Curry]

That's still a century.

[News Reporter]

How much is a quarter of an hour?

[News Anchor]

25 cents.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, 25 minutes.

[Adam Curry]

250ft.

[News Reporter]

Yep.

[Andy Ngo]

250.

[John C. Dvorak]

200.

[Adam Curry]

A quarter of an hour is 250ft.

[News Reporter]

What is 34 plus 66?

[News Anchor]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm just like 112.

[Adam Curry]

What is 100 minus 66?

[News Anchor]

100 minus 66.

[Adam Curry]

That is the question is 44. 100 minus 34. 56 point. Okay, come on. National.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's a quarter of an hour? 25 cents.

[Adam Curry]

It's a national security issue here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this. You know, I started listening to these things and I've decided because there was a clip going around of Charlie Kirk talking about how the CIA runs everything. And I listen to these girls and I'm thinking maybe there's good reason that the CIA is running everything.

[Adam Curry]

Give them more control.

[John C. Dvorak]

Please give them more control. We can't have this. What's a quarter of an hour? 25ft.

[Adam Curry]

That's great. That is good. That is really good. Something we haven't. Well, actually, I won't even give it away because the clip gives it away itself. But a little bit of a sports ball news. I am still following the football and enjoying it very much. I am. I. I like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thrilling.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, it beats sumo wrestling in my book. That's just me, the ball brother.

[John C. Dvorak]

No way. Not even close.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, did those guys take the fat drug? They should take the fat drug. It's probably not working on them anyway. FIFA is bad. Bad, bad, bad. FIFA is the International Football Federation and they are bad.

[Andy Ngo]

Now, later, kickoff times and mandatory water

[Adam Curry]

breaks, two of the measures FIFA have

[Andy Ngo]

introduced to the men's Football World cup in North America to try and mitigate

[Adam Curry]

the impact of extreme.

[Andy Ngo]

Extreme heat.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no, no.

[News Reporter]

It's.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's for commercials, dude. Totally. It's not for extreme heat. It's for commercials. But you can already feel where this BBC report is going.

[Andy Ngo]

But some games have been played in very high temperatures, and there's a renewed focus on that issue today via a number of protests. Climate activists will be outside four World cup stadiums, calling on sporting organizations to cut ties with the oil and gas industry. Saudi oil giant Aramco is particularly in their sights. David Wheeler is a former professional footballer

[Adam Curry]

who's backing the campaign.

[Andy Ngo]

The World cup in the past has been played in some very hot places in extreme temperatures.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[Guest Expert]

Qatar.

[Andy Ngo]

Is this one. So different.

[Adam Curry]

Do you argue?

[Andy Ngo]

There are some areas where it's not so dangerous, but in areas like especially Mexico, Kansas, Miami, for example, you've got that combination, the kind of perfect storm of having high temperature, high humidity, and Exposure to the sun with, with little wind as well at times. So it's a combination of all those things which make it that bit more extreme, which means that when the body sweats and the, the evaporation of that sweat cools the body down, it actually no longer works in those conditions. So the body is essentially cooking and doesn't. It isn't able to cool down by its own natural means.

[Adam Curry]

So you're now supporting this campaign and we're going to see protests today outside

[Andy Ngo]

various stadiums specifically calling for FIFA to end fossil fuel sponsorships and Aramco very much in their sights. Why are you supporting that specifically? We need to stop using fossil fuels as quickly as possible. We need to, like as much as possible leave fossil fuels in the ground. And I think promoting the use of no fertilizer, especially fossil fuels that are, you know, Aramco's majority owned by the Saudi state, which is known for its human rights abuses. So not only is it on the human rights grounds, but, but also in terms of, if you're promoting something that is seriously important to stop burning fossil fuels, if you're promoting it on. In one of the most popular competitions, if not the most popular, most watched competitions in the world, it kind of goes completely against everything that the public want to see.

[News Anchor]

Due to climate change.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, of course. And all those wonderful tourists who are filling up our stadiums, they, they should just take the electric.

[John C. Dvorak]

How did they get here?

[Adam Curry]

The electric boat, I think is how they're gonna come over.

[John C. Dvorak]

But let's play.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

I have another climate change. You know, my daughter right now is in the middle. This is very 90 degrees in Rotterdam.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on, let me write that. 90 whole degrees.

[Adam Curry]

They don't have any air conditioning there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

This is not a country that is geared towards 90 degrees. And she is nine months pregnant.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's not fun.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's not fun at all. It's not fun.

[News Anchor]

Across Europe on Wednesday, more than 90 million people sweltered through temperatures above 35 degrees Celsius. In the United Kingdom, the June record was broken at more than 36 degrees. In Spain, more records this heat wave. The country registered its highest degree daily average temperatures for June since at least 1950.

[Adam Curry]

It was a terrible night. It was so hot. You turn on the fan and the air is just hot.

[News Reporter]

You can't sleep.

[News Anchor]

Europe is the world's fastest warming continent with temperatures rising at a pace more than double the global average.

[John C. Dvorak]

How does that work?

[News Anchor]

One reason is that the continent is close.

[Adam Curry]

What? Say what?

[John C. Dvorak]

How does one area Warm up in global warming. You got global warming. It's global, not local.

[Adam Curry]

We have. My grass is still green here. We have had so much wonderful rain. The grapes are loving it now. Bad peach season. Very bad for the peaches. But the rain has just made our grapes, so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, and then some. You can. Five years from now, it'll be just the opposite.

[News Anchor]

Rising at a pace more than double the global average. One reason is that the continent is close to the upper Arctic Circle, where ice is rapidly disappearing and no longer reflecting the sun's rays. It's being replaced by darker surfaces such as vegetation and rocks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rocks?

[News Anchor]

Darker surfaces absorb more solar energy than ice or snow.

[Adam Curry]

You know, it's the Jewish space lasers, man.

[News Anchor]

Another explanation could be that changes in high pressure and low pressure systems. Systems are drawing more hot air from North Africa.

[Adam Curry]

Southerly gusts are more frequent over the last two to three decades and are causing more heat waves.

[News Anchor]

And a third surprising factor is that air quality has improved. Certain pollutants used to have the side effect of reflecting sunlight and limiting the passage of the sun's rays. But underpinning it all is human induced climate change, which, according to a study published earlier this week, is currently producing temperatures 2 to 4 degrees warmer. Scientists say that the burning of fossil fuels such as coal, gas and oil are driving these more frequent and intense heat waves due to climate change.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, it's all there. You know, I remember, it's interesting. They said hottest since 1950. Okay, so it was hot. It was hot in 1950. I remember the 70s in Holland was very, very hot. The summers cyclical. Of course it's cyclical.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's listen to the guy, one of the guys who founded Greenpeace on a little climate lecture.

[Adam Curry]

This old clip again?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I love this clip.

[Adam Curry]

This is old clip. Patrick. The guy is dead.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the guy who's the Weather Channel guy is the dead guy. This guy's still alive.

[Adam Curry]

Patrick Moore?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think so.

[Adam Curry]

He should be dead.

[News Reporter]

One of my missions is to turn on its head. The idea that carbon dioxide is a pollutant and somehow dangerous, when in fact it is the most important nutrient for all life on Earth. And without it, this would be a dead planet. So I say not only is carbon dioxide good, it is essential. And it's a good thing that we are putting some more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere because it was raised, running low before we came along. If we had definitive proof that CO2 was causing serious problems and we could prove it, don't you think they would write that down on a Piece of paper somewhere so people could read it. They don't have definitive proof, period in science. I'm a student of the philosophy and history of science and I know that the scientific method has not been applied in such a way as to prove that carbon dioxide is causing the earth to warm up.

[Adam Curry]

Do you think in a few years,

[John C. Dvorak]

say 50 years from now, people go,

[Adam Curry]

that was a really stupid period in our history when we tried to change

[Andy Ngo]

all our energy policies to cut this gas.

[News Reporter]

I am firmly of the belief that the future will show that this whole hysteria over climate change was a complete fabrication.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Wasn't he the president or the founder of Greenpeace? Yeah, yeah, he's still alive. He's 79. There's a really good movie. I remember, Gosh, I think I went to see it in the theater during the, during the times of the show. It was. Oh, and it featured him. And I remember reporting that it was like some blockbuster movie was on the same weekend. And I think there were five people. It was a CNN movie. CNN movie was cnn.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can't believe CNN would be promoting.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, yes, I think it was CO2. I think it was. Let me ask the Book of Knowledge, instead of guessing here, Book of Knowledge, what was the movie that included the founder of Greenpeace that CNN had in theaters briefly probably about 15 years ago? And that's a tough quest for the Book of Knowledge.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's a good one. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Let's see if we can do it. Waiting with anticipation. Oh, scribbling away. It's going deep in the archives, probably. Oh, here we go. According to the Book of Knowledge, the film you seek is how to Change The World, a 2015 documentary directed by Jerry Rothwell. It documents how the founding members of Greenpeace created the Green movement, centering on activist Robert Hunter and his part in the creation of Greenpeace. Different guy. It was screened in 120 UK and 70 US cinemas on September 9, 2015. Presented stateside with

[Andy Ngo]

it.

[Adam Curry]

Nice, nice abbreviation. How to Change the World. It might have been that I remember how to Change the World movie. That was good stuff. Yeah, I think this is it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, maybe.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think this is it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, anyway, so this is. I just. I gotta get that out of the way. I got one more clip to get out of the way. You want to hear? This is a. The hey yo. Clip.

[Adam Curry]

Hey yo.

[News Anchor]

And the next time that my family wants to ask me why I don't date or like why I'm never gonna get married or anything, I'm gonna tell Them what just happened to me. I meet up with this. Everything's kind of going really good at first. Like, you know, the first introduction is kind of like, you're a little shy, so you're like, yeah, so that, that was the first few minutes. Well then, like, I don't know, at some point he gets really bold and like, just puts his fingers in my mouth. Like, no warning. Just like. And like the. The freak in me was kind of like, you know what? I'm gonna roll with this. I kind of liked it.

[Andy Ngo]

I don't.

[News Reporter]

I. I don't.

[News Anchor]

Anyway, so to kind of reciprocate that, I, like, grab a fistful of his. And then he. He kicked me out, like, permanently. Like, I can never go back to the dentist office ever again.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you really need to get off social media. This is, this is really. But you are hurting the show with clips that you used to call screwball clips. You're not allowed to say that anymore. And this is just. What is this?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I. I know I slipped it in a gag. You know, I was trying to. I have another thing.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no. I'm going to play some real news because this is also barely spoken about. And this is the. The. The fraud, the big fraud. Today we are announcing federal and state charges, all of which were charged or unsettled, sealed at some point over the past two weeks. The past 14 days, coordinated nationwide action. Since June 8th, we've charged 455 defendants across 56. Like I said a minute ago, U.S. attorney's offices and 45 U.S. states and territories. As alleged in the various indictments, these individuals participated in health care fraud schemes involved involving over $6.5 billion in false claims submitted to Medicare, Medicaid and other healthcare programs. That is literally exactly two years of military funding for Israel. We can do much better than this fraud, people. Come on in. Kash Patel. I also want to highlight the Vice

[News Reporter]

President's brilliant idea to put together a

[Adam Curry]

most wanted Fraudsters lists. The FBI has always had our top 10 most wanted fugitive list. But Wein two weeks ago, I think

[News Reporter]

we were all in Ohio where we

[Adam Curry]

announced our most wanted fraudsters list. And in just the last two weeks, thanks to the help of the American people in the world, we have apprehended

[News Reporter]

two of the most wanted fraudsters already.

[Adam Curry]

This is the reach of the United States government. This is the reach of this team, the interagency and state and local partners

[John C. Dvorak]

on one mission and one mission alone

[Adam Curry]

to combat fraud and make sure The American public's precious taxpayer dollars go where

[John C. Dvorak]

they're supposed to go, to the American

[Adam Curry]

people that need them the most, and not to these criminals who are stealing from us day in and day out. Now, the problem, you can't just.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can't just. Until they arrest Gavin Newsom, I'm paying no attention to this one more from rfk.

[Adam Curry]

The allegations in these cases are particularly disturbing. Some defendants allegedly ordered medically unnecessary necessary tests. Others prescribed products that patients did not need. Some allegedly fueled opioid addiction to increase their own revenue. In certain cases, patients allegedly died, all believing they were receiving legitimate Medicare medical care from providers who only viewed them as billing opportunities.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

These defendants did not not simply break the law. They violated the trust that patients place in medical professionals. There you go. There's something doing.

[John C. Dvorak]

The whole system is that way.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I could. I could tell that when I was in the hospital.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Do you have your final bill yet?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'll bring it up when it's. When it's important

[Adam Curry]

instead of the sad puppy, perhaps. All right. I've been dying to hear the movie review clip, which should be the last one before.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's. This is the. All it is is just a reaction to that new. What's that movie, the Spielberg movie.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, Disclosure Day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Have you seen it?

[Adam Curry]

No, of course not.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm watching when it comes on tv. Yeah, but it's supposed to. Well, this is the review on the thermometer.

[Adam Curry]

This film rates an absolute zero. Brrr. It stinks.

[News Anchor]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

We already had a boots on the ground for. Of our producers who said it was no good.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was.

[Adam Curry]

It was incoherent. Didn't make any sense.

[John C. Dvorak]

Coherence, the main thing.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Doesn't make any sense. And I. I believe that to be true. Spielberg whiffed on this one. He whiffed. What. What is the big movie again? It's a toy story. Come on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. It's totally kicking ass.

[Adam Curry]

Americans. You know, everyone who's listening to this

[John C. Dvorak]

podcast and the other dog out there is Supergirl.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I heard it's like it has no color. Like it's a wash for some reason.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, washed out color and it's just no good. And stupid villains and. Yeah, Hollywood's out of ideas. Bring back Dana Brunetti. That guy had some ideas. Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you know, Musk is sponsoring. Musk is sponsoring a couple of Wahlberg and Mel Gibson to start a new studio.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I bet it'll be mgm.

[John C. Dvorak]

Musk, Gibson and. Jam. So maybe they could give him. Have him run it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that would be good.

[John C. Dvorak]

He won't. He doesn't, you know, interested in that.

[Adam Curry]

Listen, people want. People are getting tired of it.

[News Anchor]

People are.

[John C. Dvorak]

He doesn't like anything. Who Brunetti.

[Adam Curry]

Now Brunetti's has been. He missed his.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he's not a has been. He just doesn't want to be. That's why, as far as he's concerned, working the farm is more fun.

[Adam Curry]

I'm a don't want to be Ben. Got it. The people are sick and tired of what Hollywood is pumping out. They're tired of it. People are sick and tired of social media. They're sick and tired of cable news. They're sick and tired political nonsense. And that's why people are enjoying football, because it's just fun. People are loving football is only 10% of the entire United States and maybe of the world, a much smaller percentage of the world is on social media arguing about stuff. It's really not that big a deal. And people who listen to the show, they know that. That's why they come here, get a few laughs, like, yeah, that's right. I knew it. I knew it was all stupid. I knew in the end what it's all really about. It's not that important. It's just fun. After the show, do you lie down depressed from hearing all this, or are you enlightened and happy and go cook some dinner?

[John C. Dvorak]

Some people, I think, get depressed.

[Adam Curry]

I'm very sorry. Then we are missing our mark. If we're making people just a little

[John C. Dvorak]

snippet from a podcast. This is another thing we need to start talking about.

[Guest Expert]

About.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

And this refers back to the 2026 autos with the. With the kill switch. And this is the right to repair clip. This is just a little snippet from a podcast.

[News Anchor]

Have you ever tried to order a McFlurry from McDonald's only to hear that the ice cream machine is broken again?

[News Reporter]

The franchises that I spoke to, they

[Adam Curry]

were like, we know how to clean the machine.

[News Reporter]

We just don't know how to reset it so that it actually works.

[John C. Dvorak]

Again.

[Adam Curry]

Try to out.

[News Anchor]

The right to repair McFlurry machines is tied to a much bigger fight. The right to repair your own stuff.

[News Reporter]

Right to repair is one of the

[Adam Curry]

few things that I've ever covered as

[News Reporter]

a journalist where there is, like, very broad bipartisan support.

[Adam Curry]

It's an issue where like 90% of

[News Reporter]

Americans agree that this is an ideal worth fighting for.

[News Anchor]

I'm Morgan Sung, host of Close all tabs from KQED in this episode, how farmers, hackers and tech nerds teamed up to challenge some of the world's biggest manufacturers.

[Adam Curry]

Now this has been going on for quite a while. What is the guy? Troll room. What is the guy's name? He does a podcast. He sits in a big chair with the mic in front of his face like a big high back chair. He's always been talking about this, about iPhones, that you're not allowed to repair those John Deere tractors.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the John Deere thing has really got people pissed off.

[Adam Curry]

Even your car, you know, you don't have the right to repair your car. They can't, you know, you open up, open up the hood, there's a big plastic thing over there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lewis technically pulled the computer out and put another one in.

[Adam Curry]

Lewis Rossman.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that's illegal.

[Adam Curry]

No, Lewis Rossman. And that is why I'm a big fan of open source operating systems. Let me say it properly. GNU Linux. Not just Linux. GNU Linux. Because if you don't say GNU Linux, then you get, you know what? Molotov cocktails come flying through your window.

[John C. Dvorak]

Then Richard Stallman, bitches. That's what it all.

[Adam Curry]

We have Stallman groupies here. Stallman groupies who are always saying, excuse me, when you talk about Linux technically you're talking about GNU Linux. That means only part of it is Linux. The other part is gno. Yeah, so I just given up on it and I just say GNU Linux. I'm a big, I'm a big fan of that. Because you can't.

[John C. Dvorak]

What a saying. Gnu.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, of. Of running open source stuff in my life. You can't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, don't buy 2026 car.

[Adam Curry]

There you go. And with that I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in Crazy Candace. Say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only, Mr. John C.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well in the morning you m. Korean morning. I ship sea boosting around feeding the air subs in the water and damage nights out there.

[Adam Curry]

Where's your crash? Oh, you're not home. You know, crashing symbols. All right everyone, Let me come 1261. Everyone's. Everyone's dying from the heat wave, man. That's what's going on there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's a lot of flooding going on around here, the East Coast.

[Adam Curry]

Oh really? You have flooding going on? I didn't realize that.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it was. Tornado systems were just turning in a place.

[Adam Curry]

Do you get tornadoes on in California?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, never. There's one about one. Every few years there's one that shows up, but it's not really a Midwestern style. It's like just kind of a whirlwind that hits the valley once in a while.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Doesn't do any. Doesn't tear a roof off.

[Adam Curry]

Now we get proper storms here, man.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, we don't. We don't get proper storms now.

[Adam Curry]

We get really.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have earthquakes.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Aren't you due for 1?

[Guest Expert]

1?

[John C. Dvorak]

Southern California is due for one, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Not Northern California, though.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not yet.

[Adam Curry]

When was that big one that broke down the stadium and. And the highway and everything?

[John C. Dvorak]

Loma Prieta in 1989, I think.

[Donald Trump]

You do?

[Adam Curry]

Come on.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no. Southern California is way overdue. It's going to be in Southern California, then we'll get one.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe you think it would rip right through Hollywood, Beverly Hills.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's mostly the outskirts.

[Adam Curry]

Tina wants to go on a vacation. She says, I'd really like to go see California. Southern California.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's never been here.

[Adam Curry]

She's been to Northern California. Never to Southern California.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's a big difference.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. I suggested Catalina Island. Please, let's go anywhere.

[John C. Dvorak]

Catalina Island.

[Adam Curry]

She's like, you know, I think I would really like to see Los Angeles and Hollywood and Beverly Hills. Okay, That's a day trip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Trip.

[Adam Curry]

And that's it. And you will be.

[John C. Dvorak]

You could spend a couple of days in that area, be very disappointed. But the thing is, well, Beverly Hills is still clean.

[Adam Curry]

California is so beautiful. It's just such beautiful nature. It's a hellscape, but it's. It's beautiful.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's cool. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

There's something to be said about it. No doubt. Hey, those trolls who are listening live, they're listening live on a modern podcast app, which I highly recommend you get. Get. Because more increasingly, podcasts are doing live streams, which is really fun. I mean, we have a live studio audience built right in. And they're helpful. These are the trolls. We call it the troll room. In this case. They're helpful, sometimes irritating, and they entertain themselves quite well. You know, yelling at each other and giving each other plus plus. I'm gonna give you plus plus. That means karma. So if you do someone's screen name plus plus, then they get a karma. You can see what their karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Heard of this?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. What their karma count is. If you do minus minus, then they. Then they lose karma points. Yeah, that's really. Someone give me a plus plus. Let me see what my karma points are and give John a plus plus. See what the. So Let me see. So come on. The stream must be lagging a little bit.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bit, I'm sure.

[Adam Curry]

Like, here we go. I have 22,436 karma points. Yep. And that just went up by one. How about John? How about John's karma?

[Donald Trump]

Here we go.

[Adam Curry]

You have 21,462. So I'm beating you on the karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's because you're in the chat room pumping yourself.

[Adam Curry]

Pumping myself?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

I've heard that that's illegal in multiple states. No, there's no pumping myself. Anyway, so the modern podcast app will alert you. So, you know, usually your podcast is stuff that's already been recorded. Well, now it gives you an alert and you hit that alert and then you're listening to the stream live and people for something about live streams that people like. And it's also much more real for us. You know, we get real time feedback. We're not editing this show after the fact that, you know, everything you hear is done live, live to tape. And within 90 seconds of publishing, the modern podcast apps pick it up. So what are you waiting for? Get a new one. Stop using those legacy apps where they also sometimes just deplatform a show and then it's gone. You don't even notice it. None of these apps that are using podcastindex.org have that problem. We have spoken many times throughout this episode about the downside of advertising and the scam that it is in podcasting in particular. And we chose never to do that because we hate dashboards. Dashboards. Down with dashboards. Instead, we chose the international lifestyle of value for value, where we give you the show in any format you want. It's out there. People can do whatever they want with it. And they have even putting it on CDs, and, I mean, they've rebroadcasted on terrestrials, radio stations, all kinds of things on. Can you guys, like, give me a clean version of the show? No. No. Well, I can't broadcast it then. Well, that's why it's a podcast. It's beautiful.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can clean it up yourself and broadcast it. We had a guy in Chicago doing that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it didn't last very long.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, because he.

[Adam Curry]

Because he got tired of. Why he got tired of cleaning up the show. Oh, you can't say that. I'm radio. So we give you all the value right there up front. There's no obligation from you, really. There's a moral obligation that is to keep this show going. And we'd like to make it to 20 years, at least. That would be fun. We make it to 20 years, that means we have to pay the bill. So you need to give us funding to do that. And it's real easy. There's no set amount. Whatever value you get out of the show, you send that back to us at no agenda. Donations document. But really, time, talent and treasure are the three T's of the formula. So, boots on the ground, what do we call for earlier? Mahjong experts. We have more producers than any program anywhere, hands down, because we have, in effect, no listeners. We only have producers. And there are producers who give and producers who are douchebags. We didn't make that up. That was made up by you guys yourselves. So people are douchebags. Some people get douched, some people get de. Douched. It's all by your own hand. And we. We appreciate Darren o', Neill, who apparently is using a. A Mac studio to create his artwork for noagendaartgenerator.com. i don't think he won the the pick of the art last time. Let me see, who was it that we picked for art?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, this is Dan OBGYN.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, OBGYN 4. Yes. Because Dan came up with a very. We love the classics when it's a holiday, particularly Father's Day, which is increasingly ignored by culture today. Dads are no good. They're doofuses. They're stupid. And it was nice to see this where Dad's in his big Chesterfield chair. Knockoff Chesterfield. He's smoking his pipe. Mom's got a piece of chocolate cake, the kids lighting the pipe. You got a little radio there playing the no agenda show, episode 18. 78, 79. Sorry. The dog is even in on it with his slippers. Classic, classic, Classic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Classic. Yeah, taken from the Saturday Evening Post style.

[Adam Curry]

Explain that. I don't think anyone knows about the Saturday Evening Post.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the Saturday Evening Post. Norman Rockwell did tons of covers for the Saturday Evening Post and became famous for a style that the Saturday Evening Post Post pretty much adopted.

[Adam Curry]

What was the Saturday Evening Post?

[John C. Dvorak]

It was a magazine that came out once a week. And it was, you know, one of the many dead magazines in the world that had certain characteristics. And the main characteristic was these fabulous covers.

[Adam Curry]

Right. So we can't get sued for that.

[John C. Dvorak]

What would you get sued?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. I don't know. Do we. Using anything from Norman Rockwell or the Corpus. Just had it all in there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Someone's getting sued, took a look and said, yeah, I can copy that

[Adam Curry]

other.

[John C. Dvorak]

No problemo.

[Adam Curry]

Let Me see. Was there anything else? There was a lot of Father's Day.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like the one next to it. I like Jeffrey Reyes. Happy Father's Day.

[Adam Curry]

It was similar, I think. Hold on.

[John C. Dvorak]

It wasn't similar. It was different. Traditional.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah. It was very different. We had. There was a lot of Father's Day stuff, but no. What was the one that was funny but we definitely couldn't use. There's the two kids by the dad's crotch. That was a weird one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Blue Acorn, which was a kid hit the dad with a ball.

[Adam Curry]

There's that one. Scare manga. That was funny. And then. Okay, mvp. Happy Transparent Day.

[Andy Ngo]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. But it's all AI. So, you know, I don't think anyone should feel bad if we don't. We don't pick here you. Because it didn't really cost you much anyway. Not yet, at least. Pretty soon it'll be $3 per task. You heard that here first on the no Agenda show. And now let us thank the people who sent in Treasure to us. We thank everybody, $50 and above, never under 50 for reasons of anonymity. And we see all of you, we appreciate you very much for sending, especially those recurring donations. And people just keep giving us 11, 11, 12, 12, 33, 33. That is so appreciated. But we always want to highlight our executive and associate executive producers. These are people who are fortunate enough to be able to send us $200 or more. You not only are guaranteed that we read your note, please keep it within normal length, but we also give you the title, a real Hollywood title of Associate executive producer. $300 or more, executive producer. And we start. And we also have how many left on the Red Heart?

[John C. Dvorak]

The Red Knight, Order of the Hearts, probably seven.

[Adam Curry]

Seven left. So in addition, if you are not already a knight or a dame, then you get a ring. You get a knight or a dame ring, but also a beautiful pin. That means you're a Red Knight.

[John C. Dvorak]

The ring order just came in finally from China.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, why do you have to say that? How about Italy? Anything or just nothing?

[John C. Dvorak]

Just Italy would get them from China.

[Adam Curry]

Sarcastic the Nomad, who has been a long term supporter of the show. He's from Glenmore, Pennsylvania, comes in with $1,000 and he says, I am hoping to acquire one of the last remaining Red Knight titles and join the Order of the Heart. And you have, sir. Please promote the Northern Alabama meetup this Sunday, June 28th. Show up, folks. Madison, Huntsville, Athens, Decatur, and parts unknown. It's like a party. Sarcastic, the Nomad. And yes, sir, you will be be inducted into the order of Heart of the heart very shortly. And thank you very much.

[John C. Dvorak]

On we're with Ian Cummings in Kingsville, Texas. Where's that?

[Adam Curry]

I have no idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Two 395 Kings Ranch maybe.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the final donation needed to knight my father Timothy. Sir Timothy Knight of the Comancroft Commencroft. Is that what it says? Requesting Glenn Fittage, 12 year old and haggis. He almost didn't make it to father's day. But thanks to all the prayers and support he puffed through a harrowing weekend, his blood counts had dropped low enough that he needed dialysis to survive the night due to sepsis from chemo. Wow, that's not fun. Also, can he get a goat Karma and an F Cancer please. Sincerely, Nate or Ian. Ian Cummings. Cummings in Kingsville, Texas. Q KQN Knightsville Naval Air Station.

[Adam Curry]

Oh oh excellent.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's an air station there.

[Adam Curry]

So there's kqni. I'm thinking that's the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Q N I. Yeah, that's the iko identifier. I think that's not a. I don't think that's a ham call. That's identifier could be wrong though. But yes, of course we have that for you dad. You've got karma up next. Coming in with and let's see, $360. Tally wiener. Tally wiener everybody. Tally wiener from New York, New York. Nice to see you. ITm happy Father's Day from EPA region number two, John and Adam. I sent an email to Adamurry.com hoping to pass to rob the constitutional lawyer. Yes I have done so good karma please. Happy to join executive producing and we say thank you very much.

[News Anchor]

You've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

I always pass everything on to rob the constitutional lawyer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sir Eric Wilka in Opelika, Alabama on 3. 3. 3.33. ITM Citizen John and Citizen Adam.

[Adam Curry]

ITM

[John C. Dvorak]

writing to say that the good sumo karma is mostly safe and effective. I've had my best tournament performance to date taking bronze and middleweight. Wow. Two others from the club got silver and heavyweight and silver in open weight. Outside of the pros in Japan there are weight classes and open weight is any size.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Unfortunately we did have one injured but he should be back trained. They get you get injured a lot back training in a month or so. Very proud and grateful for my teammates at Black Dragon Bay or Baya. Sure appreciate you John for recommending everyone look up and watch the sumo match. I got hooked from YouTube clips. Got to See live at the world games in Birmingham and thankfully found a place to regularly train. I highly recommend everyone give it a try, even if you don't want to go into any bouts. The drills, exercise, and the conditioning from practice are great. The practice, training and motivation helped me drop around 60 pounds. Well, that's kind of the opposite of what you're supposed to do.

[Adam Curry]

I was going to say, aren't you supposed to be fat? Isn't that the whole idea?

[John C. Dvorak]

Gaining weight? Yeah. And finally, keep the weight off. Love the show. Keep up the great work. Can I please get a jobs? Karma. Thanks, sir Eric Wilka.

[Adam Curry]

So. But do you have to be fat to participate?

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Like he said, they have weight classes in the United States. I didn't even know they did this in some of the schools. But no, you don't have to be fat.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it seems like only the champs are fat, so, I mean, could I benefit from sumo?

[Donald Trump]

You?

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[News Anchor]

Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[Adam Curry]

I guess not.

[News Anchor]

Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sorry, my mic went off.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. Coming in hot with $333.33. That's our favorite number. Manuka Gold from Hudson, Florida. And Manuka Gold says I. This is the Manuka Gold family ITM. Gentlemen, after being in business for over 20 years, one of the most common questions we get is asking if the skin cream we offer on manukagold.com also works on men. So we thought we would take the opportunity to tell all the listeners that yes, skin cream in fact works on all humans. Moisturize. Very important to moisturize.

[John C. Dvorak]

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[Adam Curry]

I've moisturized my entire life and I look 20. So we highly encourage all of you who have seen it on the website to give it a try. Our everything cream can help heal many topical ailments. Dry skin, extreme cracked heels, peels and more. It has no strong scent. It is not greasy. And despite having raw Manuka honey in it, it is not sticky. Pure Manuka honey is one of the most healing ingredients in nature. So this is truly a cream anybody can find a use for. Give it a try using code courage. It's a new code. They got a new code current. They're tracking the success of our show John seeing which shows work courage. Like let's see. Adam did the read. It was better when Adam did.

[John C. Dvorak]

John had some funny bit. He's got a joke and he had the whatever girls that we boomed.

[Adam Curry]

We need to put it on the dashboard. Try using code courage to receive 20% off your order@manukagold. Dot com. As always, keep up the fight, gentlemen. Sincerely, the Manuka Gold family, and we thank you very much.

[John C. Dvorak]

Onward with Isobel Pearson.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, the Baroness, Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, she's in Monlejon, France. France 280 else. Pure Gardere. Donate, donate, donate to no Agenda, she writes. And then she continues by saying, so worth it are they. And so proud was I of my longstanding allegiance to the show that I chose the title. Dame Isobel Pearson, first female listener of no Agenda.

[Adam Curry]

That's right. That's fact. It's a fact,

[John C. Dvorak]

Harley. Succinct, but. But nevertheless symbolic to me. For 18 years I have ensured a continuous stream of sanity which has guided me through my divorce from the UK to the warm embrace of Gascony.

[Adam Curry]

It probably got her divorce in the first place.

[John C. Dvorak]

I inject my personality and passion to bring my purgardeurs to life. Purgardes is a retreat destination. A luxury chamber of Chambre, Chambre, Chambre d' or and live music venue in spectacular surroundings where I host with grace and assurance. I let my no Agenda credentials speak for themselves. We're the number one choice in the south of France for no Agenda Network. 15% off the coat. Off with the code ITM15. This is a donation. Karma in progress. Email me Bespoke. For bespoke packages, anything is possible. Pure Gardner. P U R E G A R D E R E S P U R E G A R D E R e [e-mail]. baroness Isabelle Pearson, formerly first female listener, but she's still the first female listener of no Agenda. Baroness Isabel Pureguard.

[Guest Expert]

Hey.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you.

[Adam Curry]

So we're leaving on Wednesday to go to Holland.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. You're gonna take us. Run by her place.

[Adam Curry]

Well, so take the channel. The baby. Well, this is what I was going to say. The baby. Hopefully the baby arrives when we're there. We're not coming back until the 13th, and that'll be way too long for me to be with the depressed socialists of the Netherlands.

[John C. Dvorak]

But you'd be with the depressed Franco French.

[Adam Curry]

Well, so what I'm thinking is. Because I'm sure we'll have to go back in August, you know, if the baby comes early, then it's good. Then we don't have to see him for a month or two. So maybe it'll be September. But I'm thinking it might be kind of nice, you know, to go over, see the baby, and then take a little jaunt down to the Baroness's place. She's got bespoke packages, you know, Maybe

[John C. Dvorak]

she'll put you up for free?

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's not the point. The point is it might be a nice little getaway. I'd like to know, what kind of bespoke package do you have for us? Baroness.

[John C. Dvorak]

I wonder what kind of. She's in Gascony.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can give you some wineries to visit while you're there.

[Adam Curry]

I want to go to her place. She should be the one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, yeah. Well, you're not going to just stay there. You're going to roam the countryside. You're going to rent a car.

[Adam Curry]

I hear she has a nice package. Yeah. Daniel White, Gladewater, Texas. Our first or our second associate executive produce today after Baroness Isabel. $250 jingle. Listen to that horn, please. That's the foamer. Please add me to the birthday list for the 29th. America is. This is a 250 donation. America is celebrating its 250th this year, and I'm hitting the big five zero. To mark the occasion, we're having a meetup on Sunday, the 28th in Longview, Texas. There will be cake and plenty of shenanigans. Y' all be good now. This is Dirty Jersey Whore. I know who you are, Daniel. Oh, my God. God, listen to that horn. Yeah, definitely. If you're in the opportunity to go to Longview on the 28th. Dirty Jersey is a force to be reckoned with. Awesome, dude. Big supporter.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, here's Dame Astrid Klein in Tokyo. Tokyo. 222 22. Dear John and Adam, Father's Day is gone, but you are the best. Sorry, clogged up here. You're the best fathers in the universe all year round. Learned that following a father's advice is good. So I am listening to no Agenda twice a week. And especially take to heart the tip of the day.

[Adam Curry]

Tip of the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

My daughter's father is the coolest. And I'm being surrounded by wonderful fathers every day in the office. Fathers are just plain awesome. I love them all. Ah, that's sweet. Dame Astrid, Archduchess of Japan and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, yes, Ned. Dame Ashford is wonderful. Also been with us for a long time. Coming to us from Zwolle in the Netherlands. $210.60. Martijn Milder, he says. Hey, I've been a listener since the COVID times. Can I get a De Douche?

[John C. Dvorak]

You've been De Douched.

[Adam Curry]

And I'd also like a Karma jingle, please. Many thanks, Martin Milder in Zola, the Netherlands. You've got Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's go With Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. 200. She says jobs. Karma. Your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression. And most don't. For a resume that gets Results, go to ImageMakersInc.com Linda helps professionals and executives position their experience so employers see their value. That's image makers with a K. And Linda Lou, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes. Best Linda.

[News Anchor]

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[Adam Curry]

And we do have one straggler here in the 2000s. That's Eric from parts unknown. And he says this is 200. A partial switcheroo.

[News Anchor]

Hmm.

[John C. Dvorak]

I guess he wrote in two checks.

[Adam Curry]

All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

For 100 each. And we decided to bump them into. So he gets the executive producer credit.

[Adam Curry]

But he. But he has a. He's two separate chicks. But he wants switcheroos here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, you get.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know what to do. Two switcheroos. Okay. Two switcheroos. The robot's gonna be very confused trying to figure this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that'll be great.

[Adam Curry]

We'll see what the Robot does. These two checks are for my great friend Scott. Scott Ald who surprised me.

[News Anchor]

Oh.

[Adam Curry]

With a $55 deduching in episode 1873. Now I'm returning the favor. $100 for Scott and $100 for me. Stay caffeinated, says Eric.

[John C. Dvorak]

Those I have switcheroo. We'd credit Eric and Scott.

[Adam Curry]

All right, there we go. It's a partial switcher. It's exactly what he said. Thank you very much. The executive and associate executive producers. We appreciate you. And of course, these titles once again, are real Hollywood titles anywhere. Those are recognized and honored, like IMDb.com, they can be put to use. And thank you for supporting us here for episode 1880.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our formula is this.

[Donald Trump]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

[Adam Curry]

Shut up, Slade.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shut up, Slade.

[Adam Curry]

And we continue thanking everybody. $50 and above as we hit. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. $123.45. Thank you, Mansoor Rod in Alpharetta, Georgia. Sir Skiplogic Spring Hill, Tennessee. 105 and 35 cents. $100 from Kellen Price. And there's Sir Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduke of Luna, Love of America and boobs. Every single episode, he sends in $80. An sense, kids, if you have a calculator, you get the joke. And he says, God bless America. Land that I love Stand beside her and guide her through the night With a light from above from the mountains to the prairies to the oceans white with foam God bless America My home sweet home. God bless America. My home sweet home. And boobs7777 from Luke Barnes in Salem, Oregon. And he says, God bless the both of you. You for being the only news deconstructors to not bend the knee to advertising money that is often so wickedly used. And he says he has a sweet Easter egg for the show in his new book series, the Universal Testaments. Neoteric Verse 1. I hope the pending popularity of my work in progress nine book series drums up even a little support for our favorite hosts. Well, you have to send me a copy of this book now. I need to see it. Dame Becky comes in from Arlington, Washington with the 6996. Yes, we see the palindrome there, Rebecca.

[Guest Expert]

Ha.

[Adam Curry]

From the USA and Italy. Number one or eight in a countdown to my 63rd when I'll be 63 in July. Born in 1963, hence $63, which he sent in. Love you guys and all the trolls and dames and knights out and more out there in the morning.

[News Reporter]

Morning.

[Adam Curry]

No G. In the morning. And Rebecca comes in again with 63. I love you both. This is number two towards my birthday of 63 from year 63. In order to be a dame by my birthday. Wait, is she being. Is she being damned? Did this get missed? This is. This is concerning. From your boots on the ground Italy. Okay. It's towards her 63rd birthday donation. So let's make sure that if. If it's. If we miss it, if we screwed it up, that we do it right for you, Rebecca.

[John C. Dvorak]

I will get a make good. If.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Well, it's. It's July, so she's July. So maybe she's close to July.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, maybe you got more coming.

[Adam Curry]

Weatherford, Texas. $60 and 6 cents. 6,000 6. The small boobs from Matthew Elwart, same from Les Starkowski and King, Arizona. And a rare triple small boob as Dame Libertymon from Vista, California comes in with that amount. Baron Henry of Outpost West Rancho Palos verdes in California, 59.92. Sir John Herbert Springs, Arkansas, double nickels. Heber Springs. Did I say. Did I say it wrong again? Heber Springs double nickels on the dime, $55.10. With this donation, I mount the 5K ridge of Vicon.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Sir John Knight of St. Patrick, patron saint of engineers. Thank you very much. The upgrade is coming this show. Eric Hulls or Hulsey in Katy, Texas. 5483. And he's glad that you're healthy. Well, physically. Surprise. Night of Astonishment, Yukon, Oklahoma, 5444. Donald Seeley in Edmond, Oklahoma, Oklahomans together. 5272. Kristen Gruelick in Winter Haven, Florida. 55150. Puppy Chow. Okay, Sir Richie Rich, 5150 birthday on June 25. We got you covered. Alex Delgado in Aptos, California, kicks off the 50s. Stefan Truckles and Seuss in Deutschland, 50. Brad McDonald in Mason, Ohio. 50. Scott Van Gelder in Centerville, Massachusetts, 50. And Michael Myers in Diamondhead, Mississippi, $50. And that wraps it up. But I see you. 49.99s. I see everything down the list. We look at them all, we read all the notes, and we appreciate you very much. Thank you for supporting us. You can do so by going to noagendadonations.com. consider giving us a recurring donation. Any amount, any frequency. All you do is go to no agendadonations.com and decide, what value did I get from the show? Should I give these guys something? Should I return the value? If you like the show, we Recommend you do noagendadonations.com. And of course, we always like to mention the birthdays. If you want to be on the list, it's [e-mail] Sir Richie Rich celebrating today. And Daniel White will be hitting the big five zero on June 29th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Douchebag. Yeah, well, you just heard him. Sir John Knight of St. Patrick, patron saint of engineers. Hit the 5K mark. It's all cumulative. So we really appreciate that amount of support, and you are hereby officially a viscount here at the no Agenda roundtable. And we thank you very much for that incredible support. And we do have, as discussed earlier, one one Order of the Heart, a red knight. Behold the Order of the Heart, pure of purpose, right from the stars in the morning, brave and smart, the Order of the Heart. And sarcastic. The Nomad did indeed come in with $1,000 to nab one of those seven remaining Red Knight pins, the Order of the Heart. It comes with a. In a beautiful package. It comes with a certificate of authenticity and of course, that pin, which you can proudly display at any meetup or anywhere. No agenda. People, gather together. Congratulations. Welcome, Red Knight, Order of the Hearts. Behold the Order of the Heart, pure of purpose, right from the start. In the morning, brave and smart, the Order of the Heart. And I got my blade out already because we have one night to bring into the Round Table, if you can. Hello. Do you have a blade there? J.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me Find it. Oh, there it is. Got it right here.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, very nice. Hey Timothy, thank you very much for your support of a thousand dollars or more that brings you into the coveted round table of the no Agenda Nights and Days games. And you will now officially be knighted as Sir Timothy Knight of Crommencroft. And for you sir, we have hookers and blow rent, poison chardonnay. This is for your dad of course, The Glenn Finnich 12 year and haggis. Oh, I wonder what was smelling so bad. Hey, your dad may also appreciate pepperoni rolls and pale ales, beers and blunts, Rubin etc. Geishas and sake, vodka, vanilla bunket, suburban sparkling, sparkling side on escorts, ginger ale and gerbils. And as always at the round table, the mutton and the mead. And we certainly are praying for your dad and we hope that you can help them out. Get that ring the rings are in so we can get them to you pretty quick. Go to no Agenda rings dot com, let us know the ring size and where to send it and we'll get that out to you post haste. And thank you all once again for supporting the no Agenda show. Yeah, we got a couple of meetups taking place. In fact tomorrow we have the Zona Spooky kinder meeting in Berlin. It's a Volks bar in Berlin, Germany. Get all the details. So the organizers, the Britalian Augusto, Secretary General of Sao Paul. Wow, so he's in Germany right [e-mail] get all the details. Rotterdam returns the first Rotterdam no Agenda meetup tomorrow, 8 o' clock. Amazing. Rotterdam Rotterdam time at the HA Subliff in in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. On Saturday, the June Mac and cheese meet up at 1:00 clock at Don Chavez in Cebelos Mexican Grill in Fort Wayne, Indiana. Also on Saturday, the Northern Silicon Valley Get John out of the House meetup. That'll be at 3:33pm Pacific at Club Mallard. He will be there in Albany, California. Take pictures while you can. And the talent offering to Houston area no Agenda producers at City Orchard in Houston, Texas. Also tomorrow are all great things to go attend. You will not be disappointed. On Sunday, our next show day, the Northern Alabama meetup at 3:30 at Mellow Mushroom in Decatur, Alabama. We heard about that one earlier. And also the East Texas meetup and half century celebration for Dirty Jersey whore. He turns 50 and go visit him and celebrate with him at Rotola's Pizzeria in Longview, Texas for July. Just to give you an idea what's coming up. Raleigh, North Carolina, Eagle, Idaho, Scottsdale, Arizona, Nashville, North Carolina, Charlotte, North Carolina and Los Angeles, California. It truly is a worldwide international phenomenon. Go to no agendameetups.com to find out where you can join one of these meetups. This is where you will get connection that always gives you protection. The people you meet at the meetup will be your first responders in any emergency. If you can't find one near [e-mail] Start one yourself. It's easy, it's free. And always a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you won't be triggered or hell, lame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like a party.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, we know. We have an exciting tip of the day coming up. John promised that to us earlier earlier on in the show. Also end of show mixes which are dynamite. But first we select an ISO. And this is where John once again tries to trick us into believing that true celebrities are endorsing the no agenda show. But I will go first with my real ISOs.

[News Reporter]

There's nothing else like that on planet Earth.

[Adam Curry]

Thought that was reasonable.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

What do I do with this information? Kind of funny. And then always going to the. Well, these guys are great entertainers. Very smart, very funny. Come on, come on.

[Donald Trump]

Little long.

[Adam Curry]

It's three seconds. Three seconds exactly. You're saying that because yours are actually violate the three second rule. They're four seconds. But maybe they're good. I don't know which one first.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, one of them is a good example of the kinds of stuff that goes around that needs to be posted online. And you would bitch and moan about it. But, but it's, it's a good. And it could be end of show. Maybe not. But this is Elon Musk.

[Adam Curry]

I have no idea why John and Adam are throttled on X have nothing

[John C. Dvorak]

to do with it.

[Adam Curry]

We are throttled on X. I've been at 99,000 for what, 10 years.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're throttled on X and he's got nothing to do with it.

[Adam Curry]

10 years. Let me see, let me see what my current count is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on a second.

[Adam Curry]

Let me just check. Let's see. What is your current count. You got to be around the same. You can't be much higher.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm 100,000.

[Adam Curry]

I'm 99.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've been as high as 110.

[Adam Curry]

I'm always 99k.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they won't let you go over 100. I don't know what the deal is. With you,

[Adam Curry]

it's me. What are you going to do? All right, next, here's Trump.

[Donald Trump]

As your president, I intend to make the no Agenda show a national treasure immediately.

[Adam Curry]

That actually wasn't too bad. You know, at least you can hear what he's saying. And Musk is like, I have no idea why John and Adam are throttled

[News Reporter]

on X have nothing to do with it.

[Adam Curry]

No, I prefer this. You know, I prefer this is better.

[Donald Trump]

As your president, I intend to make the no Agenda show a national treasure immediately.

[Adam Curry]

We already were national treasures, Mr. President, but we'll take your, your ringing endorsement any day. And right now it's time for to learn how to do this. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so what I've done, these are these, both these clips came from this site and I've been looking at all the different sites that do celebrity impressions and voices. They've done the sampling and we have a couple people in our producership operation that can do this and they've done it. And we've taken clips from, from these, from the producers too. But, but the one problem is I think a lot of these sites are all the same and they're just packaged differently. You know that like this typical scam.

[Adam Curry]

Now, are these free? Are these free?

[John C. Dvorak]

They're free for like doing two or three clips and then, oh, sorry, you have to, you know, blah, blah, you know, you have to pay now, so. And you don't get them. Right. I found one that has a limited number of celebrities but an unlimited number of these clips. All the clips I've had in the last, I'd say couple of months come from this site because the easiest. But they've only got the following celebrities. Elon, Donald Trump, Kamala, Joe Biden, Mark Zuckerberg, who is quite good, by the way. Zuckerberg is good. The Barack Obama, which is not very good. Kanye west, who's. I don't know if it's good or not. Joe Rogan, which is not very good. And Tom Cruise, which is excellent. The Tom Cruise Cruz voice is terrific. And Snoop Dogg, which is mediocre, but it's okay. So I get all this from and this. And you can do as many as you want and they'll give you a nice little video that you can post. You've seen these, you hate them, but they're cheap and easy and I have made a hundred of these things and they've never asked for money. And it, the site's very simple. It's called elantalks.com they never asked for money. Never have asked for money.

[Adam Curry]

There's got to be some kind of scam going on here.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have no idea what the deal is, but they've never asked for money. I've. Dude, clip after clip after clip. I've done at least 50 clips that I've downloaded and use on Twitter. Elon speaks.or elontalks.com and make some of the. Make some of your own. Your own. Pass them around. Try to plug the no Agenda show if you can, as a favor to this tip of the day.

[Adam Curry]

And you can find more tips like [e-mail] tipoftheday.net Just the Tip with JCD and sometimes Adam created by Dana Burnetti man, you're trying to. Trying to juice the algos, huh? Before you know it, you're gonna say, hey, man, we should be streaming live on X because that's where everybody is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, video.

[Adam Curry]

We should do video. Yeah, let's do video.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's gonna. That's, you know, that's not happening.

[Adam Curry]

That's not happening.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm in my underwear.

[Adam Curry]

Wow, a visual. Nobody needed even this. No, we did. Danny Loose just Baker, MVP and Sir Johnny B. All representing in the end of show mixes. Thank you gentlemen for doing that for us. You'll like them. There's some toe tappers in there. And it's fun because the lyrics are getting better and better. Also, Josh is coming up next on the no Agenda stream with the Disaffected podcast. Have you ever thought about these. These women? The whatever girls, Cluster B. You'll get it all from disaffected. And we return Sunday to bring you more of your media deconstruction. Have a laugh as we show you what's really going on in the world outside of the media spin because it's all bull crap. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country. We got dynamite grapes right now in the morning, everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm Adam Curry and from Refinery Row where we've got dynamite grapes too, somewhere. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

Remember us at Noah's in the donations.com until Sunday. Adios mo fos a hooey. Hooey and such.

[News Anchor]

Check this.

[Adam Curry]

4 Hot Stories of the news dismissed. Intel cooked up who squad in the stew Mainstream fo like nah, we're through. Fauci in the mix Rulebook on fire co lab rooms run higher and higher. Biolab funding overseas heat big outlets vanish like we didn't see UK bombshell Headline show called media talking about the big boys duck podcast rise Truth on deck

[News Reporter]

no agenda with the mic like fact

[Adam Curry]

check Blacklist this, blacklist that stories this be like a magic act if it's real, say it if it's fake, slay it Silence is the trick and they still try to play it value for value Keep the signal tight Cipher in the dark but we bring that light.

[News Reporter]

This is CIA programming

[Adam Curry]

this is the clip, right?

[News Reporter]

Yep our intelligence community is pushing us

[John C. Dvorak]

through the administrative state structures now.

[Adam Curry]

Do you know what it's labeled? Malone6 Wow. What you're seeing is the power of

[John C. Dvorak]

the intelligence community

[Adam Curry]

Malone wow

[News Reporter]

this is CIA's program.

[Andy Ngo]

CIA program

[John C. Dvorak]

technology was pulled out of the trash can

[Adam Curry]

malone6 wow push their agenda malone6 wow. This is CIA cobra there you go. No agenda shining light on the blackout on the bombshell Tulsi step from the DNI vault with four thunderclaps that tried to erase Obama intel cookout spying on the tower now cuffs for the chef who who cook the case then the Russia hoax files Brandon Clapper come in the treason frame the class flip the script but the outlets play the silence game Ouchies gain a function fiasco Chinese lab connection in the mix Virus possibly crafted there but they black The Origin Fix 4th Overseas Biolabs funded illegal by the stars and stripes gain a function shadows with no oversight hiding foreign types across the pond the UK drop the red gang inquiry bomb quarter million British girls grooming gangs mostly foreign borns d step down the scandal stairs but the press look the other way complete media embargo what are they scared to say? Democrats and allies sweeping victims clean with selective freeze if these stories are fake then why the full information Disease

[John C. Dvorak]

blackout

[Adam Curry]

on the bombshells 0 column inches wide even to disprove them they won't let the truth collide Our media the only ones keeping the signal alive no agenda digging deep while the mainstream lets it die Support the show more than ever cause it's obvious when needed value for value the fuses lit the blackout can't be repeated Truthful it always finds a

[News Reporter]

way to sever the chains of deception

[Adam Curry]

when the gatekeepers pull the lever Black out on the palm shells. The president rumbled with tire so wide he took a shortcut on his patriotic ride Right through the basin right through the drain leaving a treadmark in the middle of the lane the blue tile is shattered the water is gone but hey he's official so keep marching on no salute to the driver who cleared out the sight he turned a reflection into a parking lot blight with With a crunch and a thud and a heavy duty roar who needs a pool when you've no East Wing anymore? Infrastructure's fixed in a brand new way Just drive through the water and ruin the day.

[Donald Trump]

As your president, I intend to make the no Agenda Show a national treasure immediately.