1886 - "Cytoshitosis"

Summary

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No Agenda Show | Episode 1886: “Cytoshitosis”

Date: July 16, 2026
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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Episode Overview

In this episode titled "Cytoshitosis," Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deliver their signature media deconstruction, focusing on several trending news items: a major foodborne illness outbreak, surreal congressional hearings, the state of X/Twitter and the media ecosystem, new developments in nuclear energy, and plenty of humorous personal anecdotes. The hosts maintain their unscripted, live-to-tape style, punctuated by witty banter, skeptical inquiry, and behind-the-scenes insights into media and government machinations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Foodborne Disease Outbreak: Cyclospora “Cytoshitosis”

Main Segment: [07:13–20:05]

• The Story: An outbreak of cyclospora, a parasite causing "explosive watery diarrhea,” spreads across 34 states, notably Michigan (2,600+ cases).
• Suspected Vectors: Lettuce and potentially Taco Bell ingredients are under scrutiny, but investigators cannot tie the outbreak to any single food or source.
• Symptoms: Patients experience nausea, fatigue, bloating, and diarrhea which can last for weeks or months—markedly different from most stomach bugs.

  “The diarrhea can last weeks, if not months. And that’s what makes this so problematic…” — Adam Curry [08:40]

• Listener Reports: Producers write in with personal and family stories about enduring symptoms and the challenges of diagnosis and treatment.
• Skepticism on Origins: The hosts question why the CDC hasn’t tracked down the source:

  “Could this possibly be a gain of function bioweapon? ...No, but it's so... they don't really know how you get it.” — Adam Curry [14:57]

• Media Coverage: Playful skepticism about the revolving cast of "lettuce blame" in foodborne illness news and the rivalry between fast food chains.
• Quack Cures: Adam shares an anecdote about using Manuka Honey for relief, while both clarify to listeners that "this is not medical advice."

2. Weather & Emergency Alerts

Segment: [03:34–06:59]

• Adam and John discuss bizarre weather in Texas, tornadoes, and a flood alert system that’s become almost comically persistent, with alerts going off all night.
• John shares his experience with false earthquake alerts in California.
• Adam humorously describes his wife’s storm-chasing tendencies and community concern when local disasters hit.

3. Ebola & Travel Security Theater

Segment: [20:05–27:00]

• Ebola rears its head again, with CDC warnings about rapid case growth abroad but low risk to Americans.
• Adam recounts a Kafkaesque encounter with biometric controls at Schiphol airport, where new facial recognition software creates "duplicate traveler profiles."
• A surprising twist: "silent airport" signage transmits guidance directly into Bluetooth headphones and hearing aids—an unannounced accessibility feature.

“They have this low energy Bluetooth that is breaking into my hearing aids to tell me where to go!” — Adam Curry [25:04]

4. Congressional Theater: Fraud, Bubbles, and Hearings

Main Segment: [29:16–54:13]

• Lindsey Graham’s Death & Conspiracy Rumors: The hosts lampoon the wave of speculation and Congressional melodrama following Senator Graham's death.

  “Do you know what I mean? At what point does this just not make any sense?” — Adam Curry [32:35]

• "Speculative Bubbles" and Financial Illiteracy: Excruciating exchanges occur between Federal Reserve officials and Congress members (notably Al Green), who express comical confusion over meme coins, interest rates, and the actual role of central banking.

  “Can I have your assurance that you will be concerned about these speculative bubbles, Mr. Chairman?” — Al Green (mocked) [48:14]

• January 6th & DOJ Hearings: Senators grandstand, grilling DOJ and FBI nominees with questions heavy on insinuation and light on fact.
• Jay Clayton (DNI Nominee) & Election Legitimacy: Congress obsesses over whether nominees will say “Joe Biden won the election”—a test of institutional loyalty rather than competence.

5. Press Freedom, Leaks, and Shield Laws

Segment: [58:30–66:01]

• Air Force One Leak Investigation: A White House “leak hunt” targets government phones after press reports on Air Force One’s security.
• Adam and John debate whether journalistic source protection is meaningfully enshrined in the First Amendment (referencing Supreme Court precedent).
• Media as “Enemies of the People”: Criticism of the chilling effects—“There’s been no chill. It’s worse than ever.” — John C. Dvorak [65:45]

6. International Energy & Nuclear Renaissance

Segments: [71:42–78:13]

• Strait of Hormuz & Geopolitics: The hosts analyze conflicting stories about shipping, potential tolls, Gulf state investments, and the shifting importance of Middle Eastern oil routes.
• Nuclear Energy Expansion: “Atomic Rod” writes in about a surge in advanced reactor pilot programs and nuclear innovation, praised as a rare win for American energy policy.

7. Lifestyle, Tech, and Culture

• Biden’s Book Announcement: Adam and John riff on President Biden’s memoir video—mocking the delivery and deciphering mumbled lines [85:30–88:10].
• Podcasting & Media Ecosystem:
  • The hosts reflect critically on the state of "dead-feeling" podcasts, and how short video and clips on social media have replaced long-form listening for many, including Rogan's and Megyn Kelly's shows.
  • Value for Value: Praising their live-to-tape, ad-free model—highlighting its financial reality and connection to audience.

> “We don’t have to worry about advertisers… all we have to do is just do the show, which we do kind of as a public service.” — Adam Curry [126:01]

• AI in Schools & Media:
  • Concerns raised as Anthropic launches “Claude for Teachers” to help build custom curricula, with parents and experts worried about unknown impacts and AI hallucinations [98:41–101:19].
  • Google’s news summary tools threaten investigative journalism as readers stop clicking through; the hosts warn that real reporting risks being lost.

8. X/Twitter and the Media Narrative

Supercut Segments: [107:43–112:53]

• The Death Spiral that Wasn’t: A montage of media figures declaring the doom of Twitter under Elon Musk followed by a second montage accusing X/Twitter of becoming a “cesspool.”
• Fediverse Prediction Falters: Adam admits defeat on his prediction that the decentralized "Fediverse" would overtake Twitter’s dominance, blaming co-opting by “the left.”

“The Fediverse was co-opted… ruined it.” — John C. Dvorak [110:22]

9. No Agenda Community & Value for Value

End Segment: [128:09–end]

• Listener & Producer Engagement: Shout-outs to executive producers, sponsors, and community stories including a first-ever on-air kidney request, an epic cancellation story from a UK choreographer, and yet another No Agenda Meetup-turned-wedding.
• Notable Websites:
  • FreedomInTheArts.com – Support for canceled artists (highlighted by donor Rosalie K. Price).
  • MtiLivingDonor.org – Kidney donor info for a producer’s wife.
  • Value-for-Value Culture, Meetups, TipOfTheDay.net
• John’s Tip of the Day: Install an outdoor patio misting system for summer comfort—a “cool product.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Comparing Podcast Formats:

  “Most podcasts feel dead... They don’t have the excitement. They’re not walking on the high wire like we are.” – Adam Curry [122:07]

• Media Critique:

  “It does affect the flow of trade and all that but you do see trade adapt. Move to other routes.” — Analyst on Hormuz [71:42]

• On Press Freedom:

  “The press bitches and moans about the press. That’s who bitches and moans.” — Adam Curry [64:07]

• On Congress:

  “This is just embarrassing that these people are in Congress even.” — Adam Curry [53:07]

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Notable Timestamps

• 00:00 – Show open: Bubbles, nostalgia, and backscatter
• 07:13–20:05 – Cyclospora outbreak discussion
• 20:05–27:00 – Ebola, biometric travel mishaps, Bluetooth “silent airport”
• 29:16–54:13 – Congressional hearings: Graham’s death, meme coins, DOJ/FBI grilling
• 58:30–66:01 – Air Force One leak probe, press shield laws, “no chill” for the media
• 71:42–78:13 – Strait of Hormuz, Gulf investment, global shipping, nuclear progress
• 85:30–88:10 – Biden’s book: deciphering presidential speech
• 98:41–101:19 – Anthropic’s Claude AI for schools, AI in education critique
• 107:43–112:53 – X/Twitter “collapse” media supercuts, state of the Fediverse
• 128:09–end – Show credits, value for value, community engagement, meetups, end of show mixes

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Tone & Delivery

The episode maintains the classic No Agenda mix of irreverence, media skepticism, and conspiratorial but humorous problem-solving. Adam’s lively storytelling and John’s world-weary deadpan alternate seamlessly as they call out media narratives, snap at government absurdities, and share authentic listener contributions.

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For New Listeners

• What to expect: Engaging, unpredictable media analysis; direct reporting from listeners (“producers”); ongoing in-show jokes and references; active listener participation via letters, meetups, and donations.
• How to engage: Listen live or catch the podcast; find a meetup; read the shownotes for referenced links; and consider contributing in time, talent, or treasure.

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No Agenda: always deconstructing, always live, and still the best podcast in the universe.

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Transcript

[Adam Curry]

I like me some bubbles.

[John C. Dvorak]

You like your bubbles?

[Adam Curry]

I like bubbles. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, July 16, 2026. This is your award winning Gimmonation Media Assassination Episode 1886. This is no Agenda. Suffering from rainstick backscatter and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country right here in FEMA region number six in the morning everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I'm wondering what is Microsoft hello? And why would I wanted to enhance my experience? I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning. Wait a minute. Isn't Microsoft hello? A really old product cropped up this

[John C. Dvorak]

morning on a boot.

[Adam Curry]

On a boot.

[John C. Dvorak]

I booted a machine that says hello. Would you like to install Microsoft hello to enhance your experience?

[Adam Curry]

What is it? What is Microsoft hello?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. I never saw. I heard of it.

[Adam Curry]

It sounds like, you know, it's. When you said that the first thing I thought of was remember the old Mac 512 and you boot that up and it would have that cursive hello.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, little hello guy.

[Adam Curry]

The little hello. Yeah, I'm sure it's some kind of AI thing that. No, that can't be because your.

[John C. Dvorak]

Your system was co pilot.

[Adam Curry]

No, copilot. MO pilot. But your system doesn't upgrade.

[John C. Dvorak]

Co pilot, Mop, copilot, co pilot, small pilot.

[Adam Curry]

I tell you. Isn't it? But isn't that an. Is. Isn't your system un. Upgradeable?

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. I know It's a Windows 10.

[Adam Curry]

That's interesting. So maybe it must be. They must have upgraded your. What's that browser called? Edge.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's possible.

[Adam Curry]

Your Edge browser. Yeah, Microsoft, remember they integrated the browser into everything and they're always screwing with. Became such a nightmare. Everybody was creating viruses and there was a point when I think of Windows, he just couldn't turn it on. It's like, don't turn it on today. It's not a good idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah, because it was Tuesday. Patch Tuesday. They were going to load up some junk that was going to ruin your machine.

[Adam Curry]

No, it wasn't patch Tuesday. It was when they had Internet Explorer and you know, like, well, we're integrating the Internet into everything. So you open up your files, you know, file window and it would be connected to the Internet. Just. Just in case. Just in case.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just in case.

[Adam Curry]

Just in case you need to browse the web. Oh my goodness. Oh, we've come a long way. Come a long way. And thank you very Much for the. For the rainstick.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're killing anyone who insisted.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it was a request by a producer and I was in Amsterdam and I did not have my rainstick with me. And you were pointing it at Colorado, but as always, it's the backscatter. It's the butt of this.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just pointed straight up in the air.

[Adam Curry]

Well, the radials must have been somehow bouncing off the ionosphere. It has rained here for five days almost nonstop.

[John C. Dvorak]

You haven't been there for five days. How would you know?

[Adam Curry]

What do you mean? We came back on Monday. Okay, four days. But it was raining on Sunday. How would I know? I know people here.

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought you didn't get out much.

[Adam Curry]

And if you recall, last year in July, it was July 4th. July 4th weekend, we had a very similar scenario where we had just a storm front just hovering over all of the hill country, and it wound up killing a couple hundred people. You know, kids and holiday camps. So may not be as bad. Well, for a couple of reasons. One, the alert system is just going off non stop now three times in the middle of the night. And for some reason on the iPhone, you can't. Well, you can. You can turn it off and say, don't give me alerts. But that's kind of like. The whole point is if there's something, you know, some dire situation, you kind of want to be alerted to it. But I think they're overdoing it now, which is bad because they didn't do it as much last year.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like crying wolf a little bit. Well, I got two earthquake alerts over the last couple weeks. Yeah, there was no earthquake in either case. There was no earthquake and there was none around. There wasn't an earthquake anywhere in the vicinity. And I got. One of them was duck and cover, and the other one was find something to hold on to.

[Adam Curry]

No, really? Yeah, Stand in a doorway. Anyway, it's. It is bad here. They're Talking about a 35 foot wall of water coming down the Guadalupe River. This is not good. Kerrville, which is about 25 minutes down the road. Stores and restaurants are flooding. It's not good.

[John C. Dvorak]

First of all, let's. Let's get one thing. So everyone out there knows this. What is your elevation?

[Adam Curry]

Well, my elevation here is almost 1400ft.

[John C. Dvorak]

1400ft? You're almost on a mountain pretty much. People don't have to worry about you.

[Adam Curry]

People like John C. Dvorak and Mimi Dvorak, who called me yesterday.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mimi insisted.

[Adam Curry]

So I'm in the car.

[John C. Dvorak]

You were at Elevation.

[Adam Curry]

I'm in the car, driving back from a meeting, and, you know, there's one thing I don't want to see the day before a show day is jcd. Real cell phone pop up on my dashboard. This. So the. I can only think a couple things. I'm like, he's in the hospital.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is it.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's in a car wreck.

[Adam Curry]

No, I thought hospital.

[John C. Dvorak]

Somebody shot him.

[Adam Curry]

Now I'm gonna have to deal with that. Like, what are we gonna do now? And then it's you and Mimi on the speakerphone. Hey, are you wet yet? And Mimi, she is a max velocity storm chaser groupie of epic proportion.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's really bad near you.

[Adam Curry]

You don't go to the east, you're going to drown. There's storm chasers in Fredericksburg. Yeah. Okay. She really loves that stuff. She is a weather junkie.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Yeah. So I had to make the call,

[Adam Curry]

and you were telling her like, he's at elev, no problem. She wouldn't believe it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm just putting that out there so other people don't ever, you know, start to think that. Oh, my.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it usually takes a couple days. And then you get people from Holland. Are you okay? You know, because they. You can see how the news kind of trickles through. You need to have some dead people and, you know, some horrible pictures and a single baby shoe floating by. Then people like, oh, wait a minute. Isn't that where Adam lives? And I love. It's appreciated. I like that people care and they want to check in on me. But, yeah, we're pretty safe here. Although there was a tornado just like 30 minutes down the road. That doesn't happen very often. Certainly not in the hill country. Onward, yes. Onward with the top news item. I don't care what you say. Breaking at this hour right now, officials can't pinpoint the exact source or sources of this outbreak. It's a food or waterborne disease caused by a parasite, Cyclospora. And pinpointing precisely where it's coming from is a challenge. Michigan is bearing the brunt with more than 2,600 reported cases, including 44 that have landed people in the hospital. Joining us to explain what all this means and how to stay healthy is Dr. Omer Awan. He's at the University of Maryland school of medicine. Dr. Awan, thank you so much for being here. To start off with. If I were to ingest this parasite, how do I know that I've got it? What are the symptoms? People should look out for well, the typical symptoms, William, are things like nausea, fatigue, bloating, and of course, explosive watery diarrhea.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that's the symptom that's been getting

[Adam Curry]

a lot of attention because this is really different, because most stomach bugs, usually the watery diarrhea lasts about two or three days. With the cases of cyclospirasis, the diarrhea can last weeks, if not months. And that's what makes this so problematic. This is, this is what's kind of crazy. This month's business. And apparently you can get it a week before the symptoms appear. Tonight, 34 states grappling with Cyclospora, the parasite that can be found on fresh produce, making Americans sick. Michigan zeroing in on lettuce. Doc says there is a clear preliminary

[John C. Dvorak]

signal pointing to the leafy green.

[Adam Curry]

Why do you suspect lettuce? We've interviewed about a thousand out of the 3,000 cases we have so far. Lettuce seems to be an ongoing exposure for those who've been impacted. Federal officials say Michigan is one of four Midwestern states where the cases could be linked. Taco Bell today confirming it removed limited ingredients at select restaurants. While authorities continue their broader review, noting public health officials have not confirmed a link to Taco Bell. The Washington Post reports federal and state health officials are investigating the chain, citing two individuals familiar with the probe. CDC did not comment. Michigan's Dr. Bagdasarian. So there was no location that came up in 100% of cases, but there certainly were restaurants and fast food chains that did come up, including Taco Bell. You know, I'm not going to comment on those specifics right now. Nationwide, the CDC says it's confirmed 1645 cases of cyclospirasis and is aware of 5100 more. Christina Serafina says she ate fresh fruits and vegetables hiking last month and got sick for weeks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just really strong gas and bloating pains.

[Adam Curry]

And on top of that, you're not eating, so you're hungry and you're having hunger pains. Also. I got to tell you, I got boots on the ground from people that I had to redact. I mean, this is unlike members of our producing audience, being Patriot Front members of which one is, by the way, for later. A lot of people have this, this bug. Friend of Sir Beavenauer, producer for 16 or 17 years. Yes. I had it three nights ago. Contracted it, contracted it. One of the beachside resorts at Myrtle beach only lasted one night. The next day was pretty much gone. See, I don't think that he had it two of my.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think. No. Now if you're going to have it for a month, that sounds more like, you know, one of the quick bug, whatever it's called.

[Adam Curry]

Well, here's. Please redact my name. If read on air. It's one of our nights. Because if word got back to my wife that I was sharing this, I'd probably be a night experiencing homelessness. Listen to this. My wife seems to have come down with the explosive diarrhea. Or as I read in an article, ferocious diarrhea. That's even better. When first looking it up, she's actually got it pretty bad. And for about a week she could barely function away from a toilet. After about a week and a half, she decided to go to the urgent care to see if there's anything they could do. They sent her home with a test sample kit, plastic bowl and other cups to retrieve said sample and asked they

[John C. Dvorak]

should put you in a bed and give you fluids intravenously and then maybe send you home.

[Adam Curry]

Asked her to bring the sample back to the lab. She did. A day later, was told that she was. Had tested positive. So this test, pcr, I'm sure, but there's also nothing that can be given to you to get rid of it. You just have to fight it out, she was told.

[John C. Dvorak]

So what's the point of the test?

[Adam Curry]

Exactly. She was told some people can get over it in days. She's now on about three weeks. Fortunately, it's become less explosive.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I would think so.

[Adam Curry]

So last night, bowels have got to

[John C. Dvorak]

get tired at some point.

[Adam Curry]

I woke up at like 1:30 and I felt really bad. And I did not have. Just not to be too graphic. I did not have explosive diarrhea, but it wasn't good. And I'm thinking, oh man, what am I gonna do? This. This is horrible. I feel miserable and I actually.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stop tape.

[Adam Curry]

What do you mean stop tape? Stop tape. Why? No, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

During the show you can do it. If you stop tape, we'll understand.

[Adam Curry]

Stop tape. No.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I. I'll be right back after a word from.

[Adam Curry]

Well, and here's the point. So I'm like, oh man, what can I take? You know, I just feel miserable. And I took two tablespoons of the Manuka gold honey. Slept like a baby, woke up perfectly fine. I don't know if it's related, but that's all I could think of. Like, what can I do?

[John C. Dvorak]

Which is the plain honey?

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's the honey with all the stuff in it. The be well honey.

[John C. Dvorak]

The be well Honey.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Be well it has because apparently cumin or cucumin. Is that cucumin? Is that the molecule of cumin?

[John C. Dvorak]

Curcumin.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, curcumin. Is that different from cumin?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

What is curcumin?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's more like pepper.

[Adam Curry]

Oh. Because I think that's in the. Be well honey, they got a lot of stuff mixed in there that is supposed to neutralize this bug. But let's just think about this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now we're being quacks. The show.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm not. This is not medical advice. This is not. We're not advising you on anything medical. But I'm thinking about this. Do you know that more people die from diarrhea globally than anything else?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And mostly in India.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Just poop their brains out and then

[John C. Dvorak]

they go to India and they have a. Something. I don't know if they don't have the right curry or whatever. And the next thing you know they're dead.

[Adam Curry]

It's really bad. I mean by a long shot the amount of people globally who die from diarrhea is much more than.

[John C. Dvorak]

Certainly more than gunshots in India.

[Adam Curry]

Well, could this, I'm just throwing it out there because of the nature of this thing. Could this possibly be a gain of function? Bioweapon? Oh, come on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well that hasn't come up in the conversation yet.

[Adam Curry]

No, but it's so. They don't really know how you get it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know they keep talk. They blame lettuce for everything.

[Adam Curry]

Well, lettuce and Taco Bell, there's a,

[John C. Dvorak]

there's a lettuce hating component of society. Well, there's also doesn't like the salad eaters of California.

[Adam Curry]

But there's also some warfare going on amongst the fast food guys. Cuz Taco Bell is the one that has. That is in the. In the crosshairs tonight. Taco Bell saying they have voluntarily removed some ingredients at select locations as the foodborne parasite cyclospiriasis rapidly spreads across the US the company stating public health officials have not confirmed a link to Taco Bell or any specific ingredient supplier, restaurant or retailer, adding they will closely monitor the situation. State health officials say there have been more than 600 new cases of cyclospariasis in Michigan alone since yesterday. Health officials now pointing to lettuce as a possible source of the outbreak in that state. We're continuing our trace back investigation on multiple produce items including the lettuce. The CDC confirming cases in 34 states today warning that cases in Michigan, West Virginia, Kentucky and Ohio seem to have a similar source. The parasite spread through contaminated food or water, can cause severe digestive issues, including diarrhea. Symptoms usually begin about one week after becoming infected. It was really bad. There were moments where I was literally just camped out in the bathroom and like, I don't care. I'm just gonna lay on this floor.

[John C. Dvorak]

David.

[Adam Curry]

The CDC is telling doctors to stay alert. Health officials say thoroughly washing your fruits and vegetables, even if they're labeled pre washed, is an important step in preventing illness. David, good advice. Sounds awful. Stephanie Ramos tonight. Thanks, Steph. Good advice. Sounds awful. Thanks a lot, Steph.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's get my. I have an NTD clip about the same thing as you probably. Play it.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, let me see.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's under cytoshitosis. The FDA is working to identify the

[Adam Curry]

source of a large multi state outbreak

[John C. Dvorak]

of a foodborne illness. It's now investigating multiple produce items. Health officials say more than 1600 confirmed cases of cyclosporiasis have been reported across

[Adam Curry]

34 states since May.

[John C. Dvorak]

There have been no deaths reported from the outbreak, but more than 140 people have been hospitalized.

[Adam Curry]

The CDC says more than 5,000 additional

[John C. Dvorak]

suspected cases are still under investigation. Symptoms usually start two days to two weeks after infection. Primary symptom is diarrhea. Other symptoms can include loss of appetite, cramping and fatigue. The CDC is urging doctors to specifically test patients with prolonged gastrointestinal illness. Officials say the outbreak may involve multiple clusters with evidence pointing to a common source in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky and West Virginia.

[Adam Curry]

Investigators have not identified a specific contaminated

[John C. Dvorak]

food, although lettuce and salad greens are the main suspects.

[Adam Curry]

How about this? What if it's contaminated? GLP1. Everybody's on that stuff. Gastro.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's an interesting idea. Here's a question that I have since they have this test that somebody. Oh, I went in, I had to take the test. Why don't they just grab a bunch of food and start testing it?

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is why I'm bringing it up, because they're not. It doesn't seem like anyone is coming up with any normal solutions in their kind of thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's 5,000 cases. You think you'd be able to. When you do tracing, you say, where'd you go? Where'd you eat? Where'd you go? Where'd you eat? Here, Where'd you eat? Here, there.

[Adam Curry]

But then there's this very odd. Oh, it doesn't kick in until after a week. Since when is that a. I'm telling you something else is going on here. I like my gain of Function angle. But I'm. I think. I think I'm. I'm looking more at. It's got GLP1. I mean, just one batch being contaminated or, you know, something.

[John C. Dvorak]

Could be anything. It seems to me that they should have. Normally, they would have isolated the cause by now.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Whenever it's the. What is the other foodborne illness, they always trace it back to some tomato at some supermarket or.

[John C. Dvorak]

Listeria.

[Adam Curry]

Listeria? Yeah, listeria. They got no problem. Boom, there it is. But this one. Oh, we don't know. Lettuce, maybe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, maybe lettuce. Could be Taco Bell. Not even close.

[Adam Curry]

You know, it's. Anyhow, I'm looking at lettuce in the supermarket. Like, yeah, I think I'll just have my salad with cucumber. I don't want any lettuce right now. We don't frequent Taco Bell. But just. Something is wrong with this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Taco Bell's got overpriced.

[Adam Curry]

Something is wrong with this story. Well, we're checking in on disease. Might as well get a little Ebola update. Dr. Sun, what's your reaction when you

[John C. Dvorak]

hear the CDC warning about how quickly this is spreading?

[Adam Curry]

The pace of the spread, Diane, is really concerning here. The trend trajectory shows exceptional rapid growth. Right now, this Ebola outbreak is already half the size of the outbreak that we saw in 2018. That was the second largest outbreak recorded in history, and that took two years to combat. Right now, we're only two months into this current outbreak. And as James was stating, this is the Bundy Bugeau strain. This strain does not have a targeted vaccine or a target targeted therapy. But the main concern here is in contact tracing. The World Health Organization is estimating that these estimates are likely an underestimate as tens of thousands of people still need to be traced back. Do people in the US or other

[John C. Dvorak]

countries need to be worried about this?

[Adam Curry]

Our concern here and our risk. Excuse me. Our risk here in the United States is relatively low. Wow. Low. I got. I did get a text message from Homeland Security because, you know. Well, because we're Global Entry members and, you know, if you've traveled to Uganda, you better, like, come and see us immediately. Oh, so on the way back, traveling back from, you know, in the new security state. That is the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. We need our travel story.

[Adam Curry]

It's a minor travel story. So when you leave Schiphol Airport, first you check in, you show your passport, then you go to the exit, the customs and border patrol exit for the Netherlands, because we don't have that in America. But in the eu, when you leave, they check you and it's all automated. Your picture is already in their system. So you all wait in little lines. And then you get up to the booth and the little doors open and then you get in the booth and then the doors close. And then you have to put your passport into the, on the little shelf and it eats your passport. And then it says, hold still. And then camera goes up and down, get, gets you right in the eye. The lights go on and then, then a clock, like a spinning wheel of death appears. Like, please wait, please wait. And so Tina went through, no problem. I go in there, guy comes over, he says, do it again. Okay, put it in. And red lights flashing. And they're over there looking at some terminal. They come in, they say, well, you have to go over to that line, you know the line with a thousand people. You got to go through that line before a manual exit check. Because we have two traveler profiles of you. So what does that mean? Well, we just got new software.

[John C. Dvorak]

Uh huh.

[Adam Curry]

So we just got new software and, and there's two Pro2 traveler profiles. I don't even know what that means. But there's two traveler profiles and we don't know. The system doesn't know which one to choose. So you got to go talk to those guys. So I go in, that line takes about 15 extra minutes. And I, and I say, oh, here's my passport. And I said, they sent me over from the machine because I have two traveler profiles. And this guy says, no, I only see one. You're good to go. It's like, what is that? It's like, yeah, we got a new software. And you know, this is, this is troubling. It's already breaking down.

[John C. Dvorak]

Unbelievable.

[Adam Curry]

But something interesting did happen. This is one of these so called silent airports. So the whole thing is automated.

[John C. Dvorak]

When you, what does that mean?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm going to tell you. So they don't have, they have signs and lights and they don't have, you know like speakers everywhere, you know, going, please follow the red footsteps.

[John C. Dvorak]

Move to the left.

[Adam Curry]

Go over there. Wait, Stop. Slave, shut up. It's not your turn.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait. Go, go.

[Adam Curry]

Carousel sex. So they don't have that. Instead they have signage and so you

[John C. Dvorak]

signage that yells at you.

[Adam Curry]

Well, and here's the interesting part. So you go through the security line and then there's a stop point and they have these carousels and then the carousels go round and round and then one is free and it's like a little slot and you cozy up to the open slot and the carousel and a bin pops out underneath. You pull that out, put it on top, put your bag on. And then you go towards the body scanner. And so this sign is saying, wait. It's just. It's silence, wait. And then it'll go arrow and then tell you what number to go to. You know, we're like sheep. And. And I'm. And I'm in this line, I keep hearing something.

[John C. Dvorak]

What.

[Adam Curry]

What am I hearing? And I thought my glasses were hitting my hearing aids. And then as I get closer to this sign, I hear, it says, wait, wait, number six. Go now. Wait, stop. It was coming through my hearing aids. So they have this Le Bluetooth low energy Bluetooth that is breaking into my hearing aids to tell me where to go. And apparently it works on AirPods and all kinds of other Bluetooth devices.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's for blind people.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, blind people with hearing aids, I guess it was pretty interesting. I didn't know you could just break into someone's le Bluetooth low energy and then just talk to him.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's overriding. Yeah. You can do that with RF.

[Adam Curry]

Well, so you can do that to AirPods as well?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think so. Cool. It's just like a broad spectrum signal just blows everything away.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, this is cool.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it's just the same as a jammer would do.

[Adam Curry]

Right. But it's a really interesting experience because, you know, someone's talking in your head, you're like, what is going on?

[John C. Dvorak]

What the what?

[Adam Curry]

So I. It would be cool to just walk, you know, drive down the street, have a little antenna sticking out of the car and just go, you know, hey, you. Hey, yeah, I'm talking to you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Turn around.

[Adam Curry]

And if they have the ear, the earbuds in, I want one of these.

[John C. Dvorak]

A big linear amp.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the trunk.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Heater.

[John C. Dvorak]

You could just blow through everything.

[Adam Curry]

I want one of these.

[John C. Dvorak]

This.

[Adam Curry]

That's a cool little device to have. Hey, hottie, what you doing? Watch out for the.

[John C. Dvorak]

There is a period during the CB radio fad. Yeah. Which I'd call it what it is. Back in the day, these guys would have these. And it was notorious. These guys would have these linear amps.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the heaters, we called them heaters.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they would blow. And so I was driving past one once with just listening to FM radio and it went right into my radio.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, of course, of course. Right away.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So you could easily do what you're describing.

[Adam Curry]

Well, if anyone knows, it'd be annoying

[John C. Dvorak]

and you'd probably get it's illegal, but, you know, it'd be fun.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sure I can get something off of Temu. Temu.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you probably could.

[Adam Curry]

No doubt. This is.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just bought a couple of. Okay. So they got this new technology. I don't know what it's called. It's got some stupid name. I should bring these. I got to bring these into. Talk about them. I bought two. They're two. They're a type of. A new type of walkie talkie that are long range, and Bao Fang makes them.

[Adam Curry]

Huh. Oh, the 10 water. The illegal 10 water. Is that maybe? Yeah, could be.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. But you get two of them, and you can get four of them. You get six of them on Teemu, and it's like they're like 12 bucks for two of them. It looks like it. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

I bet you that broadcast to any Bluetooth. Just as long as you say. I'm sure it's really, really well tuned. Oh, man.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's Bao Feng, so it's not, like, junk.

[Adam Curry]

Those guys are the best.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, yeah. So whatever it is. But it's so cheap. It's like, oh, we can. Oh, yeah, we'll be. We'll be competing with these guys sometime soon.

[Adam Curry]

No, I mean, I carry a Bao thing in my luggage all the time, just wherever I go. And the battery, I haven't recharged it in five years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Same thing. I have a bow thing that I drag around, and it just never. The batteries never die.

[Adam Curry]

How does that work? What kind of magic do these guys have? You just turn it on. Oh, full bars. There's the battery. Chirp, choop. We're good to go. It's crazy.

[John C. Dvorak]

No idea.

[Adam Curry]

Crazy. Hey, so yesterday I was driving around, like, why are all the flags at half staff? I couldn't. I couldn't figure it out. Like, why are the flags at high staff? It's because of Lindsey Graham. Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know that there was a general order for half staff or half master.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know there was an order. I think people were just doing it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we have some new information about Lady G's untimely death. And there's a little update here tonight.

[John C. Dvorak]

New video showing more than a dozen FBI agents fanning out across the Washington

[Adam Curry]

home of the late Senator Lindsey Graham. The FBI shut down the street as investigators spent several hours on scene taking photos and searching the property.

[John C. Dvorak]

Two law enforcement sources familiar with the

[Adam Curry]

scene tell NBC News their work is

[John C. Dvorak]

out of an abundance of caution so far, no evidence has emerged to suggest play.

[Adam Curry]

A preliminary medical examiner's report revealed Graham

[John C. Dvorak]

suffered from a tear in the main artery of his heart, but they are still waiting on a toxicology test before declaring a cause of death. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

That isn't very typical. I don't think, like, send the feds in the FBI to go check it out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, there was a bunch of. No, there was what? The part you missed was there was a bunch of insistence on the part of very various legislators and others that they autopsy him. Oh, you know, he was just coming back from Ukraine. Something suspicious could have happened. Oh, he was just talking about the Chinese. Something suspicious could have happened.

[Adam Curry]

Happened.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, he hates the Russians. Something suspicious could happen. So they got all bent on everyone got.

[Adam Curry]

You know, it's. It's amazing. Adult. Adult persons of above average intelligence will text my wife, hey, what does Adam know about Lindsey Graham? It's really too cool. It's really too coincidental that he just came back from Ukraine. And of course, you know, there's a story that he was visiting a drone plant in Ukraine and the Russians took it out. And all I can say is, well, why would you cover that up? Why would that have to be kept secret? I mean, and especially the news. It's a great. It's a better story than aortic rupture. Hey, Lindsey Graham was blown up in a drone. Have we lost the ability to think a little more simplistically and just okay. Do you know what I mean? You know what I mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Occam's razor's dead.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Occam's razor is indeed dead. And there's also. That's a good one. The world isn't quite as complicated as people think it is. At some point, the world just became like, oh, everything's just crazy. You know, there's elites everywhere. We're just killing everybody. There's a degree of truth to some of it, but if you just think logically. Why. Why would anyone do. It's like the Charlie Kirk thing. It's the same thing. Well, so and so killed him. The Deep State killed him. Israel killed him. You know, J.D. vance killed them. Everyone. Everyone killed everybody. I'm like, well, why didn't they just kill him? Why did they have to go through this elaborate ruse and then get a patsy and his family to cooperate? It's like, at what point is this. At what point is this. Does this just not make any sense right away?

[John C. Dvorak]

It doesn't make any sense.

[Adam Curry]

You know, it's just like, come on. It's it's actually funny. Where's my. I had a couple of clips about this. You know, J.D. vance was on Rogan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I saw a clip of it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. What clip did you see?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. It wasn't that interesting.

[Adam Curry]

I agree. It wasn't super interesting. Here it is. Let me see. Where's Vance

[John C. Dvorak]

and those two guys? I don't know. Do you? I didn't see that. Enough of it. I only saw clips. I didn't see that I actually watched the show. So I would wonder if those. They don't seem like they have personalities that would jive.

[Adam Curry]

Who, Joe and J.D. vance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

This is very interesting. Why can't I find this? Well, at a certain point now I'm kind of mad about this. I had these two J.D. vance clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right.

[Adam Curry]

All Specter. Yeah. And this sucks. But he was talking about propaganda and he's kind of jumping on the Israel is doing stuff bandwagon was kind of interesting. Let's see, what is this? Libya basically turned into a failed state. You had a refugee crisis. You had people pouring into Europe, pouring into other parts of Asia, other parts of Africa. That's about Libya. Here he is. This is the world. I don't even mind an effort to try to influence, you know, foreign governments try to influence the United States all the time. You know, Israel does it, other countries do it. It's just sort of the nature of the beast. What bothers me is actually when Americans allow, meaning American leadership allows that influence to affect their judgment and to affect what they are advocating for. That. That's what really bothers me. People are always going to try to influence the United States of America, whether they're allies of ours or whether they're enemies of ours. But again, when I open up the pages of Time magazine and I see that there's a literal foreign influence campaign being funded to tank the very deal that I was pursuing. And oh, by the way, many of the people who were receiving that money were actually attacking me in completely dishonest ways. My response to that is, well, go to hell. I'm going to do what I have to do for the American people. I represent Americans first. Yeah, he was referring to some kind of Israeli campaign in that. Which I thought was interesting. And this whole preliminary hearing for. What's the kid's name, Ryan, who said he killed Charlie Kirk.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, that guy.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's like it. How can that not stop everybody from the exploding microphone nonsense? You know, that's not. The defense is not using this.

[John C. Dvorak]

The defense it was a shaped charge, man.

[Adam Curry]

The defense is not saying. We'd like to show you exhibit A with the Egyptian military aircraft that were circling around, and, you know, there's none of that.

[John C. Dvorak]

And.

[Adam Curry]

And I think the tide is turning.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you're an optimist today. Yeah. Some international travel always kind of screws you up some, I've observed.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I. I think the tide is turning, you know, but then.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, okay.

[Adam Curry]

But then again, I. I get the. What's going on for you? Well, it's so weird because for at least 15 years, you know, I was all in on all this stuff, and. And. And it's just all. All of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we know all of it. Yeah, well, you got that part right.

[Adam Curry]

I know, but, you know, you were the one always setting me straight, and now I'm like, you know, ladies and gentlemen, most of this stuff is just bs it doesn't make it quite as

[John C. Dvorak]

though it's built on a lie.

[Adam Curry]

It doesn't make it very exciting, you know, And. And that's to our detriment. But if you just want to get spun down a little bit and, you know, and talk some sense, you know, we're. I think we're the place for you now.

[John C. Dvorak]

We've always been the place. Well, let's do. Let's play a couple of offbeat clips then.

[Adam Curry]

Why you're always, like, offbeat screw?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is not that offbeat. This is the hearing. It's the hearing for Todd Blanche.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yes. Well, there were a couple trying to

[John C. Dvorak]

get his worm his way into the job that he.

[Adam Curry]

There were a couple of good hearings on the Hill.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there was quite a few, actually. The fact right now, Congress is in session. They had a fraud hearing. The Democrats refused to show up to it. I thought that was worthwhile.

[Adam Curry]

Why would you do that, Nick?

[John C. Dvorak]

Shirley's there. Forget it. We're not coming. So play this. This is my favorite. This would be my favorite clip for the day, actually. This is Todd Blanche having to deal with this with White House idiot from Rhode island on C Span.

[Adam Curry]

Let me ask about the FBI. How long do you intend to put up with that Cash Patel character? Are you good with his airplane jaunts? Are you confident he's not drinking on the job? Are you sure none of his travel is a pretext for vacation activities like snorkeling Olympics and visiting girlfriends? Are you sure he knows what he's doing? Do you vouch for him? Are you willing to look at whether he lied to this committee? That's an extraordinarily obnoxious question, Senator. And I have full faith in Director Patel and the work that he's doing every day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Great.

[Adam Curry]

You got to own that. What is this? Chasing his girlfriend around with the. With the government plane? I didn't hear this one.

[John C. Dvorak]

I heard it either. He's just making it up.

[Adam Curry]

I like the guzzling. I like the guzzling beer.

[John C. Dvorak]

This guy is just the biggest dick in Congress. And here he continues. This is as it goes on. He just reads. He reads them the riot. He reads Blanche the riot act and then just raps with. Doesn't even ask him a question. He just goes off.

[Adam Curry]

One last thing, if I may. You have refused to exclude January 6th rioters from your anti weaponization fund. You have refused to put in writing that the slush fund is dead.

[John C. Dvorak]

Indeed.

[Adam Curry]

You signaled to allies that payouts are still on track. You have vacated seditious conspiracy convictions against members of the Proud Boys and Oath keepers. You hired January 6th writer Jared Wise, who had urged the mob to kill police officers. You scrubbed Press releases about January 6th prosecutions and called the releases partisan and propaganda. You denied that Trump encouraged any violence on January 6th. You've cleaned house of every attorney who worked on a case related to Trump, and you've bragged that bringing justice for violent rioters meant that every one of them was either pardoned or had their sentence commuted. I hope that our colleagues who are concerned about what happened on January 6th take that into account. Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Would you like to respond?

[Adam Curry]

I would. Almost everything the senator just said. And he's protected, he's allowed to lie, but almost everything he just said was absolutely false. Okay. Starting with the fact that I have never. I have never said that any sort of violence against law enforcement is appropriate. I have never said that publicly. I have never said that in a speech, and I certainly do not believe it. I did not hire the person referenced. And that is, again, something that just happens not to be true. When I talk about what happened with the January. The convicted January 6th defendants, I talk about what President Trump did. He has the absolute right to pardon anybody for any reason he sees fit, and every one of them got pardoned or commuted. I am not celebrating that. It is a fact. And the fact that my department had to take action in response to those pardons by dismissing, missing some cases is exactly what I have to do under the law. And it's what I did so that the narrative that. That the senator just suggested and put on me as something I believe is absolutely not true. Outrage. Now. Rage, I tell you. But He, Blanche, did screw up and this and the news media pounced on this. We got you now, Blanchy. I met him the moment tonight with maybe the most post staying power at today's confirmation hearing for Todd Blanche coming during friendly questioning about his relationship with the President. I'm his lawyer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was his lawyer.

[Adam Curry]

Whoops. Oh no. Oh no. He said the quiet part out loud. President I'm his lawyer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was his lawyer.

[Adam Curry]

And now I'm the deputy Attorney general. An apparent slip of the tongue since Blanche is no longer the president.

[John C. Dvorak]

President's personal lawyer, likely adding to Democrats

[Adam Curry]

concerns that Blanche, if confirmed as Attorney general, would do President Trump's bidding to go after political rivals.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who you are is someone willing to

[Adam Curry]

sacrifice everything you once believed in for that title. Blanche spent some 15 years at the DOJ before moving to private practice representing then candidate Trump in his 2024 hush money trial in New York. Now as acting AG touting progress, we have the lowest murder rate since 1900. But facing pointed questions about why he signed off on a controversial settlement after President Trump sued the IRS. The DOJ initially agreeing to an extraordinary $1.8 billion so called anti weaponization fund. The settlement funds just not moving forward since scuttled in the face of intense opposition, including from Republicans like Senator John Cornyn, who remains undecided. I'm not going to make a decision until I have to. So just a reminder from your no Agenda show, we've done this before. This is nothing new with presidents putting their personal attorney or legal confidant as the top of the doj.

[John C. Dvorak]

John Kennedy put his brother, that's right, he had Robert.

[Adam Curry]

George Washington had Edmund Randolph, his private attorney. Harding had Harry Doherty as personal attorney and campaign manager. Nixon had John Mitchell, his own law firm partner. Reagan had William French Smith and Edwin Meese, both personal attorney and legal advisor. And George W. Bush had Alberto Gonzalez. This is nothing new.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's not only new, but John Yoo, that guy at Berkeley professor of law who is also the guy who penned the, the torture note, who's quite good as an analyst. He shows up on Fox quite a bit. He says it's common and it should be expected.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but, but you know, the news media does not do what I just did. It's so easy. It's so easy. Anyway, there was another hearing. There were some good hearings. Federal Reserve Chairman Warsh was interrogated by Al Green.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now Al Green, the idiot.

[Adam Curry]

This is so good.

[John C. Dvorak]

So Al Green, Green is a moron

[Adam Curry]

who is going to be out next year, you know, after November because he Lost his primary. Yeah, he is. He is. Well, but he starts off, you know, he tries to pull the old churchy card. Chair recognizes the gentleman From Houston, Texas, Mr. Green, who is a of member, ranking member of our subcommittee on oversight and investigations. Mr. Green, over here. Mr. Chairman.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the ranking member as well. And I welcome you to the committee, Mr. Chairman. But I would also say to you that I will pray for you. Okay. Insincere. And I'll pray for you because many of the questions that have been predicated today hinge upon a belief that you will sanction the President's desires. It is thought among the general public that you're in the position you're in because the President could not have the influence that he wanted to have with the prior chair, and he believes he can have it with you. So I hope that you will stand firm and honor your commitments that you're making, though some of them are not firm commitments, as I understood your language. So this whole hearing was all about, will you stand up to him? Will you do what is right for the banks? Will you do what is right for everybody except the American people and stand up to the President when he criticizes you? And, man, I'm so happy that Al Green will no longer be representing any part of Texas. This guy truly is an idiot. And. And I think they gave these questions to him to make him look even stupider. You indicated that you're interested in war. I appreciate this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Huh?

[Adam Curry]

But I believe you should also be interested in speculative bubbles. Speculative bubbles. So they gave him the bubbles questions. My assumption is that you. Are you interested in bubbles? Speculative bubbles. I love speculative bubble. I like me some bubbles.

[John C. Dvorak]

You like your bubbles?

[Adam Curry]

I like bubbles.

[John C. Dvorak]

Chairman, We.

[Adam Curry]

We've got a wide lens.

[John C. Dvorak]

We spend a lot of time thinking about what's happening.

[Adam Curry]

I'm going to take that as a yes. Now, given that this old, like, yes or no question. I'll take that as a yes. This is so boring and tedious, you people. You're interested in speculative bubbles. Let's just talk about a bubble that occurred. Now, what kind of bubble occurred? What kind of bubble could you think of that they gave to Al Green? Not the sharpest crayon in Le Box. What kind of bubble? Just.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the only bubble out there right now is the AI bubble, so it has to be that.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no. President Trump's meme coin, dollar sign TRUMP, meme coin dollar sign TRUMP, his meme coin profited an average of $1.74 million. Per day over his first year. Can't believe I missed that boat. $1.74 million per day. This amounted to approximately $636 million in total royalties and license sing fees generated at its launch. While this was happening during that same period of time, nearly 1 million investors lost a combined $3.8 billion. This is because that meme coin lost value. Dropped precipitously in value. Precipitously. It was a bubble, by the way. It is nothing. Anybody who's listening to me, if you've invested in a meme coin, you've invested in nothing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Zero.

[Adam Curry]

Zero. Okay, so hold on a second.

[John C. Dvorak]

Does he know that. That the chairman of the. Of the Federal Reserve Monetary Policy's got nothing to do with meme coins?

[Adam Curry]

But he's going to come back to. He's using that. This is why it's so funny. He's using that term speculative bubble to show that whenever the President wants something, it only behooves the President personally and screws everybody else out of money. And then here comes the crux. This is really one of the funniest things I've heard in a long time. I think that we should concern ourselves with these speculative bubbles. And whether you like it or not, you have to concern yourself with it, because when you lower interest rates, you lower the rates such that there's more capital available for people to use for speculative reasons. Okay, let's just hold here for a second. So this numb nut is going to tell us that we should have higher interest rates because otherwise we'll get speculative bubbles. There's no other benefit that you can think of of lower interest rates other than it's going to benefit people to create speculative bubbles. Even though, as you pointed out, the AI bubble has done just fine with interest rates at 5%. So you have to be concerned about it whether you want to or not, because you don't want to see a speculative bubble. Can I have your assurance that you will be concerned about these speculative, speculative bubbles, Mr. Chairman?

[John C. Dvorak]

So, Congressman, we want a resilient, strong, safe financial system. And we are looking at financial markets

[Adam Curry]

and we're looking at the real economy to make sure we deliver on what we can. Some of these other subjects are really

[John C. Dvorak]

more in your purview and responsibility.

[Adam Curry]

They're in my purview. Excuse me for interrupting, but I have to. They're in my purview, but only because I choose to have them in my purview and I make an issue of them. I have to vote on them, but they're in your purview, too, because you decide whether the race go up or down. And if you lower them, then people can engage in these speculative bubbles such as the Trump meme coin, and they can lose a lot of money. Oh, brother. You imagine having to sit through that. I mean, that represents people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this reminds me of that other character that's in Congress who thinks the islands can flip over

[Adam Curry]

the Maldives. The Maldives will tip over. From climate change.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. No, from population.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, population.

[John C. Dvorak]

Too many people on one side of the island.

[Adam Curry]

And then there was this. I think this was Elizabeth Warren.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hank Johnson is that guy.

[Adam Curry]

So he really. It's all just about, will you be independent? Do you work for Donald Trump? Yes or no? Who is this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Sounds like Hiromo.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's not Hirono.

[John C. Dvorak]

If I'm permitted to say we're an independent central bank, we're honored to be independent. Our independence came from you.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, that's enough. Thank you. That's enough. Don't answer the question questions with truth. Yeah, it was the Federal reserve bill of 1913.

[John C. Dvorak]

Would you take.

[Adam Curry]

If the president or others in the administration target you or your fellow governors because he doesn't like how many of

[John C. Dvorak]

them are voting on interest rate? Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

She's Spanish from Costa Rica. Where is she from? I don't know her. I don't know. It's not in my notes.

[John C. Dvorak]

For some reason, I have not heard that voice before. No, it's not my. It's not my intuition to engage in hypotheticals, but I'll tell you this. The Supreme Court said.

[Adam Curry]

Easy way out.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Supreme Court said that the Federal Reserve and the conduct of monetary policy is independent. The extent there were questions about it, the. The courts answered those questions.

[Adam Curry]

So what would you do?

[John C. Dvorak]

I would continue to do my job.

[Adam Curry]

If the president publicly pressures you to pursue a different course than the one you believe is in the economic. That you believe the economic data supports, will you follow the president's wishes or follow the data?

[John C. Dvorak]

My commitment to you is to follow the law and follow the data. Follow our very best judgment. If you decide this is the way to go, this is where the data

[Adam Curry]

shows and he publicly criticizes you and

[John C. Dvorak]

tells you how disappointed he's in you

[Adam Curry]

and all of that, will you still. If he shames you in public, will you still do your job, what the

[John C. Dvorak]

data tells you to do? I will. Congressman. You ready for that? I'm ready to follow the law, and I'm ready for the Fed to deliver on the expansive remit that you gave us.

[Adam Curry]

It's just like this is so embarrassing. It's just embarrassing that these people are in Congress even.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, luckily the left side of the party is going to wipe them all out shortly. That'll be good.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I mean the DSAers. Yeah, yeah. Warren was in fine form too. She kept yammering about some secret meeting. Did you know about the secret meeting? Do you know about a secret meeting?

[John C. Dvorak]

What's she talking about?

[Adam Curry]

Can you just answer the question about the Vice Chair and her secret meeting? Sure, I'm happy to to the extent I can. Had some secret meeting about something where something got leaked or.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, how would you know about if it was a secret?

[Adam Curry]

That's what he's saying. Share it with you.

[John C. Dvorak]

I. The Vice Chair has been an excellent colleague in my first seven weeks. I'm aware of the letter you sent

[Adam Curry]

to the Inspector general out of an enormous respect for him, his investigation, what he chooses to do with it, I'm going to leave to him to do without trying to micromanage that interested in the judgments that he.

[John C. Dvorak]

That he comes to.

[Adam Curry]

So you will support his investigation? Have you made your own investigation? Did you ask her if she spoke at a secret meeting during the blackout period?

[John C. Dvorak]

I agree with the suggestion.

[Adam Curry]

This is. Elizabeth Warren is a tool. She's just annoying. Then we had the nominee for the Director of National Intelligence, Jay Clayton, who I believe is highly qualified. He's been in the spook business for I think 20 plus years and he has been nominated to step in once the bull in the china shop is done. Bill Pulte. And again it's just these questions like it was so embarrassing that this is what our government is doing on a day to day basis. I believe he had the most electoral vot. He won the election, he followed our process, had the most electoral votes, was declared the winner. Who won the 2020 election? You know, I'm not going to do this with you. Who won the 2020 election? I think that's the question. We can keep doing this. We've tried umpteen different ways to gift you the ability to just acknowledge that Joe Biden was the President, was fairly. I've acknowledged, Senator, that Joe Biden was the President.

[John C. Dvorak]

As you see, he would not answer,

[Adam Curry]

at least not directly.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the Georgia Democrat, John Ossoff, who bit of their.

[Adam Curry]

No, they want him to say, and this is a Director of National Intelligence. I don't see what it has to do with who won the election. But they want him either. They want him specifically to say Biden won the election. And he says, well, you know he got the most electoral votes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Leave it at that.

[Adam Curry]

You refuse to answer a basic question about who won a presidential election.

[John C. Dvorak]

But you asked to lead America's intelligence

[Adam Curry]

community what this is. What does that have to do with anything?

[John C. Dvorak]

Isn't it humiliating to be unable to answer this question?

[Adam Curry]

It's humiliating to sit there and have to listen to these questions, to have

[John C. Dvorak]

to indulge the president's delusions.

[Adam Curry]

We know, you know, everybody in this

[John C. Dvorak]

room knows, knows the truthful answer to that question.

[Adam Curry]

Why can you not give it? I think I gave you the answer. So then they bring on Senator Mark Kelly and another jerk. This will wrap it up. Senator Mark Kelly joins me now. Senator, it's good to see you. You heard probably some of the Republicans in the last session. You know, a lot of them think and a lot of people watching might

[John C. Dvorak]

think this is Democrats want to get

[Adam Curry]

the Republican, you know, get the Trump people to say this. But you want to on to make a more important point, I think, which

[John C. Dvorak]

is if he won't say a simple

[Adam Curry]

fact that Joe Biden won the election, will he stand up to the president when the president, you know, needs to

[John C. Dvorak]

hear tough intelligence or when there's a

[Adam Curry]

debate or dispute with the president about

[John C. Dvorak]

key facts in maybe a sensitive national security situation? Did Jay Clayton give you confidence today

[Adam Curry]

that he will be that man if he's to confirm to this job? No, absolutely not. And it was, John, it was rather disappointing. I mean, the entire hearing, I didn't

[John C. Dvorak]

hear anything that gives me any kind

[Adam Curry]

of reassurance that this guy is going

[John C. Dvorak]

to do the job the way the American people deserve.

[Adam Curry]

This is a critical position. And the American people's safety is on the line here. He's going to direct 18 intelligence agencies. And what we're trying to get at here is if he can't in that room, I mean, the president's down the

[John C. Dvorak]

street at Pennsylvania Avenue.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, he's not looking right at him. What is he going to do when he's sitting in the Oval Office or the Situation Room and the president disagrees with him, but he has studied the intelligence and this is a critical national security issue and the safety of the American people are at risk. Is he going to tell the president that he's wrong? And I don't see any evidence that he would do that. So I was incredibly disappointed to today just so disappointing. And then the big controversy is the search for the leaker about Air Force One. And I think you and I might disagree on some of these issues with journalists. This is a Setup of it. Exclusive CNN reporting tonight on the investigation

[John C. Dvorak]

into leaks about security shortcomings of the new Air Force One last week.

[Adam Curry]

You'll remember the President flew the old

[John C. Dvorak]

plane instead of the new one when he left the NATO summit. The White House claims it was so that US Service members could tour the new one. The New York Times said it was

[Adam Curry]

because the Qatari gifted plane lacked key defense systems.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the President was incensed by that reporting. Now we've learned some government officials have

[Adam Curry]

been asked to turn over their phones at the White House as part of a leak probe.

[John C. Dvorak]

CNN 7 Perez joins us now with more.

[Adam Curry]

Evan, what more have you learned about this White House probe?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, this was an extraordinary scene at the White House last Friday where Kash Patel, the FBI director and Susie Wiles,

[Adam Curry]

the chief of staff essentially helped orchestrate what was hours long numbers of people from the White House, people who may have known about the President's trip were brought in. Their devices were taken from them in some cases and they were being questioned by FBI agents. Because of this leak hunt, the FBI of course, is trying to figure out who in the government could have possibly leaked this information to the media.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the President, as you pointed out,

[Adam Curry]

John, is very, very obsessed, very much obsessed with this. And that again took place at the White House. We have a statement from the White House about this unusual scene. They said leaks that jeopardize the safety of the President, his staff and a traveling press pool are dangerous and, and a threat to national security.

[John C. Dvorak]

The White House takes these leaks seriously

[Adam Curry]

and will do everything legally to ensure the individual or individuals are caught and it does not happen again. That's of course from the White House this evening. So, you know, I've been thinking about this and the not disclosing your sources, I don't think that is actually protected under the First Amendment. The First Amendment gives the press the freedom to print whatever they want. It doesn't give them the freedom to not, you know, not, not do their civic duty for national security, etc. I think it was actually there was some Supreme Court cases that overruled this. And, and you know, it's,

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't

[Adam Curry]

know if I don't think it's protected under the First Amendment. And you disagree?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it probably isn't.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

I never thought it was. It's just a gentleman's agreement. Look, you're going to tell me something. I'm going to protect you.

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

You make me talk.

[Adam Curry]

There was the Bansburg v. What's protected

[John C. Dvorak]

is you can't testify against yourself.

[Adam Curry]

Right. Bansburg vs Hayes in 1972, 5 to 4 Supreme Court decision where the this was the court consolidated three different cases of reporters who had investigated drug synthesis and the Black Panther Party. When called before grand juries, the reporters refused to name their anonymous sources, arguing that doing so would dry up their news gathering pipelines and destroy. Here it comes, press freedom, which is not the text, it's freedom of the press. And the court ruled the public's interest in prosecuting and deterring crime via the grand jury system outweighs the incidental burden placed on the press. But the press just, they just keep on going about. Free press, man. Free free press. Joining us now to discuss this is Will Creely. He's the legal director for Fire.org the Foundation for Individual rights and Expression. Will, thank you for joining NewsHour. It's an honor. Thank you for having me. What does the law say about what protections journalists have in this case? Well, the law has been clear for a long time that somebody else's illegal conduct does not remove speech about a matter of public concern like the president's new jet from First Amendment protection. There's no federal shield law, but the heart of the First Amendment does indeed protect this kind of activity. What we're seeing here should be a last resort. Subpoenaing reporters is a shot across the bow, designed to get people to stop asking questions about subjects the administration would rather not talk about. And it's chilling. In this case, the subpoenas were issued to these five New York Times reporters and some were served at their homes. Is that unusual? And why do you think it was done in that way, in your opinion? It is unusual and it's theatrical. It's designed to send a very clear message. Stop asking questions, sit down and shut up. I'm awfully tired of federal law enforcement agents showing up on people's doorsteps about protected speech. And unfortunately, this is just the latest in a pattern. This administration has evinced a real hostility to press that should concern Americans no matter their politics. It's designed to get people to sit down and be quiet. Yeah. I wonder if we still have that clip. What was the guy's name?

[John C. Dvorak]

Rosen's. The guy who got busted.

[Adam Curry]

Rosen, that's right. And they threw him in jail, right?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Let me see.

[John C. Dvorak]

Obama was the worst for this and they never bring it up. No, no, it's all. Trump invented it.

[Adam Curry]

Was it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Give me a break.

[Adam Curry]

Was it J. Rosen?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, it's not J. Rose. He's the professor.

[Adam Curry]

Who was it who Was which? Rosen. Let me see. Jail. Maybe I can find it that way. No, Obama, I can't seem to. That was. It was quite a long time ago. I don't know if we even have those clips from back in the day. I don't know if the. Is the archive.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we probably do, but it's not going to be easy to find. Yeah, but, yeah, Obama was doing it, but so was. You know, everybody bitches and moans about the press.

[Adam Curry]

The press bitches and moans about the press. That's who bitches and moans.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everybody bitches and moans.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I got one more clip here. You mentioned this, but this is not the first time that the Trump administration has tried to subpoena or question journalists about stories that are critical of the administration or the president. Is this a pattern that you're seeing? How would you describe this kind of behavior? Again, the president is in court and his administration is in court against the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal. Just last week, my colleagues were in Iowa state court defending a pollster, Ann Seltzer, against charges filed by the president alleging that her poll constituted consumer fraud. It's beyond the pale. It is a direct attack on the First Amendment's protection of our free press. In the 250th anniversary of our country, we should demand better. How does this administration compare to previous administrations? I mean, other presidents and other administrations have asked reporters to reveal their sources, but how does this moment compare to those. That's right. Other presidents have done it, but this is not something we should get used to. Just because other presidents have done it and they have of both parties, isn't a grounds for justification. We shouldn't normalize this behavior. We should ask for the freest press we can demand. That's what we deserve under the First Amendment. That's what we are guaranteed, beyond deserved. Again, I think that you have to look at this in the larger context of the president's attacks on the press. Really almost from day one, attacking the press has been a trademark of his, and the result is a chill on speech. It's a chill on speech.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's been no chill. It's worse than ever. Where's the chill?

[Adam Curry]

Hello? I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't see any chill. No, I see people moaning and groaning more than ever. Yeah, Anti Trump, Trump's fault.

[Adam Curry]

So the president had kind of a very interesting, interesting change of heart over the Straits of Hormuz, where first he started. Hey, man, we're gonna. We're gonna charge everybody. We're Gonna charge everybody some money, which would charge everybody 20%, which came out of nowhere. All of a sudden, Trump changing his tune after oil prices soared and American Gulf allies called to complain.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kings and amirs and all of the people that we all know and we all love. And they said, we'd love to do it a different way. We'd love to invest in the United States with billions and billions of dollars.

[Adam Curry]

What's that?

[John C. Dvorak]

It wasn't that last show clip.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, it says new clip. No, no, no. I think that happened on the. On the last. No, it just happened after the show on Sunday when It was the 20%. That was after the show. Maybe you're.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it must have been somebody brought up on Horowitz.

[Adam Curry]

That's what I think. But tonight, one thing is clear. The Strait of Hormuz is closed around Iran, firing on multiple cargo ships and on American allies in the region. So then the. The new gambit came in, which is, you don't have to pay a toll, but just invest in us. I was wondering if you could explain your changing thinking on the Strait of Hormuz, buying a 20% fee. How did you get to the decision? You just.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it was never fair to me

[Adam Curry]

that we would be guarding the Strait

[John C. Dvorak]

when we basically don't take any.

[Adam Curry]

We don't need the oil at all.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it wasn't important for us, but it was important for allies. I was called by different people, different countries, kings and amirs, and all of the people that we all know and we all love. And they've been, frankly, they've been very strong partners. And they said, we'd love to do it a different way. We'd love to invest in the United States with billions and billions of dollars. We would like to invest tremendously in

[Adam Curry]

the United States States tremendously, as opposed

[John C. Dvorak]

to charging a fee. And I like that, actually, because I don't think anybody should be able to charge a fee for the.

[Adam Curry]

For the straight or for any other straight relationship in terms of other sections of the world.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think anybody should be really in that position. But we were doing it as a reimbursement. The Gulf states are going to invest a tremendous amount of money into the United States.

[Adam Curry]

And that was very satisfactory to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's actually much better.

[Adam Curry]

So I was listening to a couple of analysts on cnbc, and I was like, what is he doing? This is completely stupid. Why would you even say, oh, you want 20%? Is he just pulling stuff out his butt as usual, or is there something behind it and then to change it around to, well, you guys, you should be paying 20%, but instead, as long as you invest billions and billions and billions and trillions of dollars in America, we'll protect you. You don't do that. But now I'm listening to these analysts and it seems like the Strait of Hormuz may even just be made redundant at some point. Hormuz now effectively under new management. What's your reaction to this latest US blockade? And do you think it's going to be enough to number one, keep barrels flowing and number two, squeeze the Iranian regime at the same time to try and bring them to the negotiations, negotiation table, or at least bring them to some kind of stability that would allow the US to continue negotiations and find an off ramp to this conflict. Then you hinted at something very important that you know, perhaps it's a political tactic during negotiation. By the way, none of the two parties completely abandoned the negotiating table. And that perhaps explain why the market is not in a pan panic mode. I mean, you would expect in a period of so called cease fire to continue to see this kind of tit for tat actions. And as long as the two parties are still talking, and that's something we should remember, I think that gives us some hope that these are more targeted, limited attacks and not really a fully fledged war as we saw, let's say two months ago, for instance. So there could be a tactic to force both parties to stick to the negotiations to reach a deal at a certain point. But of course, among markets does not like this kind of uncertainty. And that's why we are seeing these kind of developments overnight in oil prices. But I remain hopeful because I think even under the worst case scenario, some oil continued to flow through the Strait of Hormuz. Yes, some of it continued to flow through the state of Hormuz. But all of these countries, they're all scrambling and they're all building alternative transit routes, which is pipelines and all kinds of other things. But it remains to be seen what is the next chapter for hormones was more importantly why this is happening. Something else equally important is happening. That is the countries in the Middle east are continue to looking to look for alternatives to divert away from homeless. So who knows, maybe by the time the homeless crisis is resolved, we don't need to rely as much on Hormuz to get oil and gas and other products out of that strait. Here's one other analyst about it for global trade. It does affect the flow of trade and all that, but you do see trade adapt Move to other routes. For example, DP World Ports has other ports around the world, and those operations have increased. So you'll see expansions and other alternatives. For the UAE itself, all focus is on Fujairah right now. The. What doesn't make the headline is enough

[John C. Dvorak]

is that the cost of shipping insurance will stay up for a while.

[Adam Curry]

So businesses will go where. Where there's less friction, where there's less cost. So we expect. We expect to see more activities within from Fujairah's side. So they're just moving into other. Other ports. They're moving it out. I think this whole. This whole idea is just to make the whole strait kind of irrelevant. I don't know if it can be done.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, if you look at the shipping, the thousands of ships that are around there, it won't be overnight.

[Adam Curry]

No, it won't be overnight. But they've got the pipeline, which is, funny enough, I think that was. Wasn't that a Clinton thing back in the day? The pipeline taking it up to Turkey and then from Turkey, getting it into Europe and, you know, taking over to the Black Sea and just all these different routes. I think the pipelines is. We're gonna have to be doing a pipeline episode again soon.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, we're due.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think. I think it's. There's something. Something is up with this, with this, the whole thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I mean, there are theses out there that. That said this was. The whole thing was to shut down the Strait of Hormuz.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that wouldn't surprise me. Wouldn't surprise me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I guess the only thing I've got to. They're buying, they're bringing it. To complicate matters. Here's a clip. The Iranian conflict is now targeting the Houthis. Next, the Treasury Department has announced sanctions against an underground network that has been helping the Iranian regime obtain weapons. This comes as Iran is threatening to use the Houthi terrorist group to expand their attacks on commercial shipping entities.

[Adam Curry]

Jason Perry has the details. The United States continues to increase its efforts to help secure the Strait of Hormuz. And on Wednesday, the Treasury Department announced another round of sanctions connected to the Iranian regime. The Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control has sanctioned targets involved in an international network helping to get weapons for Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Details of the sanctions include two individuals in Russia and one in Italy accused of assisting Iran to get weapons. The sanctions also target a company based in Nigeria called Vanguard Tactical Supply Ltd. Which served as an intermediary in helping Iran. Iran get weapons. The fresh round of sanctions comes after Iran's attacks on vessels in the Hormuz Strait. However, Iran has warned that if US strikes continue, Iran could expand attacks on commercial shipping to the coast of Yemen through its proxy, the Houthi terrorist group. The Houthis are located near another strategic

[John C. Dvorak]

waterway for global trade, the Bab Al

[Adam Curry]

Mandeb in the Red Sea. Petrus Katinas, research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, explains, to interfere with it, Tehran would have to rely mainly on Houthis who control much of Yemen's coastline. And the Houthis have already demonstrated that they can use anti ship missiles, drones and other weapons to make commercial navigation dangerous. He said the Houthis don't need to attack every ship. They just have to complete a limited number of of successful attacks. And that would cause insurance cost for commercial vessels to skyrocket, causing ships to avoid the Red Sea altogether and take a much longer route around the southern tip of South Africa. You know all this energy that we're creating here in the United States, we're getting another, another data center in think near Austin and they will be, I think they'll be generating 750 kilowatts of gas fired energy. And we were talking about the data centers maybe being utilities and decentralizing the energy, the electricity sources in America and I got an email from an old friend of the show who apparently still listens. Atomic rod.

[John C. Dvorak]

Atomic. Oh, we haven't heard from him forever for years.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, and I want to share this because this is what he does. Was he a commander of a atomic submarine?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Now I think he became a nuclear consultant.

[Adam Curry]

A nuclear consultant. Then things were bad for a while. Business was down, particularly during the Biden administration. You and John mentioned advanced nuclear demonstrations during Sunday show. As you stated, four new reactors started operating on or before July 4th. You don't hear much about this anywhere. I was lucky enough to be present for the final two of them. Deployable Energy on June 30th and Alo Atomics very early 12:20am and July 4th. It was cool to be boots on the ground. As an observer for these historic events, I also witnessed Valar Atomics producing the first electricity from an advanced reactor reactor. Those success stories are likely to be joined by two to four more new reactors by the end of the summer. The reactor pilot program, which helped to speed reviews, approvals and facility construction, includes 11 projects and is designed to continue to provide acceleration even after reaching the interim goal of having three start by July 4th. There's a tremendous amount of Energy and excitement in the nuclear industry stimulated by a collection of four executive orders, all signed on May 23, 2025. John mentioned that California isn't likely to see new nuclear plant construction. He's probably right. But he might be interested in learning that many of the advanced nuclear companies are headquartered in California. So he says California's got a couple of them in Torrance and El Segundo, Oakland, Santa Clara, Berkeley. Hey, Berkeley, California, deep fishing and Berkeley, right around the corner in Texas, there's a whole bunch of them. This is good. This is what we need.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I agree.

[Adam Curry]

I think it's cool. It's good that we're doing that. We couldn't get any of that stuff done forever.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Because of one or two mishaps.

[Adam Curry]

Now, I would say the most interesting legislation to pass, which still doesn't mean that we're going to get, get anywhere with it, is the. What is it? The Protect the Sunshine Act. You hear about this?

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, this is it. It's a debate that has consumed a lot of time, literally. But yesterday, Congress took its biggest step yet toward ending the twice yearly changing of the clocks.

[John C. Dvorak]

The House passed the Sunshine Protection.

[Adam Curry]

Say what?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. This was overplayed on Fox and every place in between. This is, this is. Every year or every couple of years we get this story. It's like a rerun of old news.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they're trying, they're trying something new they're not getting. This is not FOX as an aside, this is pbs, an act which would make daylight saving time permanent nationwide. The bipartisan bill now heads to the US Senate, where a similar effort stalled several years ago.

[John C. Dvorak]

For more on the push to stop

[Adam Curry]

changing the clocks, we are joined now by Scott Yates, founder of the Lock the Clock Alliance. Scott, it's always good to see you. So you've been pushing for this for years. We've seen momentum, momentum before it's not become law. Why might this time be different?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we've never seen it pass the House before.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, I mean it's never gotten the floor for even to be able

[John C. Dvorak]

to have a vote.

[Adam Curry]

So this is just a huge step forward. And I think it shows the kind of momentum that we have and I think it shows the excitement over an issue that's actually bipartisan. I was pleased to see a wide margin both among Republicans and Democrats voting for, for it. So I think with that kind of momentum we can go over to the Senate and say, look, this is what the people want. And clearly that's reflected in state legislatures across the country and in the House vote yesterday, we've never been this close, John. This has been the first time. This is, we're getting somewhere with this.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I think this is good. We got to check the prop bet market on this baby. This is a solid no.

[Adam Curry]

Well, would they, would this guy with this Yates guy is saying is they need to push it to the states. This is going to make it even more fun so the states can decide what time zone they want to be in. This makes my head spin. In your view, what do we gain by stopping the twice yearly changing of the clocks? One of the things I was really

[John C. Dvorak]

encouraged to hear yesterday were all different

[Adam Curry]

politicians getting up and talking about the health detriments of the clock changing.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, it wasn't that long ago

[Adam Curry]

that we just thought of changing the clocks for daylight saving time as kind of annoyance, but we didn't think of it as deadly. But now the research is really clear that it really is deadly and very disruptive. It's bad for schools, it's bad for businesses, it's bad for everybody. The only thing that we don't agree on is completely is on which time zone we should be locking into.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I think we've got a solution

[Adam Curry]

to be able to to address that without having to have the clock change twice a year, which is what I think most people actually are the most interested in. It's just they don't really care that much which one we lock into. They just don't like the switch coaching. Well, what's the solution? Well, the solution is actually an amendment that I proposed back when it was in the Senate last year to have a two year implementation period. And what that allows is for each

[John C. Dvorak]

state to be able to have enough

[Adam Curry]

time and the school boards to weigh in and everybody in a state to be able to say look, this is a time that makes the most sense for us. You know, anybody that says they've got a perfect solution that works for every state in the country has to some other agenda they're trying to push, saying that you've got the exact rate solution that works for Massachusetts and also works

[John C. Dvorak]

for Indiana, well, that's just not possible.

[Adam Curry]

So I think if we have a two year implementation, which is an amendment that was accepted and is now part of the Senate version that would give people of, for instance, Indiana and Michigan a couple of states that I think would be really well served to be on permanent standard time to be able to make that decision. So it's kind of crazier than I thought it would be. Be so each time zone, each state would be able to determine what, you know, what time seven o' clock is. So you know, today we have two hours difference between California and Texas. It might be one hour. Can you imagine if every state just what's the time there? Well, we're in Indiana.

[John C. Dvorak]

Arizona still does its own thing in Indiana, until recently used to have their own time. Yeah, but it's not that unusual.

[Adam Curry]

But every state might be, might get a little funky.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now the whole thing's a joke. Well, these things never come to fruition. It's just going to keep going. Once it was established, they can't get rid of it. Because I was kind of convinced, kind of like you that well, this is interesting. And then I listened of all the shows, it was actually Gutfeld, they had the little group of comedy comedians on there and it was just was split right in the middle.

[Adam Curry]

Middle.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it should be daylight savings time all the time. No it shouldn't because then in the morning and during the certain time of year it'll be too dark for the kitties and they have to pick up, they won't be able to see the bus when it comes and they're gonna get mugged and killed. So think of the children. We can't do daylight saving times all year round. But wait, but then if we do standard time all year round, then it's too dark at night, nobody's gonna go out and shop. It's gonna be bad for commerce. This is not working.

[Adam Curry]

So there's a solution for this which came in the same week as this news.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, take the Earth out of orbit.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no. It's the new company, Reflect Orbital. This is so if you don't like the fact that your kids have to walk to school in the dark, well then you just rent some time from Reflect Orbital and they can spread some sunlight on a five kilometer patch of Earth plan by a Hawthorne based startup to test a satellite that would use a 60 foot mirror to then reflect sunlight back to planet Earth after dark. Reflect Orbital says that it would power solar farms, provide light for rescue workers and illuminate city streets. The idea here is to have access to the sun on demand and when it's needed, Reflect Orbital plans to have more than 50,000 satellites and action by 2035. However, some astronomers, wildlife experts and others oppose this idea completely. They claim that the light from the mirrors could distract airplane pilots, could wreak havoc on astronomical observations and interfere with sleep wake cycles. I think this is very cool. I'm surprised it's not An Elon Musk operation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's not happening either.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Screwball. They give me a crap from just cruise.

[Adam Curry]

They already. They're demoing it. They already have one up there. And you. So you say, okay, let there be light and they just reflect.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, there's things called street lamps. No, but let's say why do you need a satellite light up the street?

[Adam Curry]

I lost my key somewhere in the yard. Let's just. Let's order some light for five minutes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that would be so inexpensive, you can be sure.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, just reflecting some light. Yeah, yeah. 50,000 of them. How much space junk do we actually have?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. There's enough of the Starlink satellites.

[Adam Curry]

Too much going on. Too much.

[John C. Dvorak]

They should put starlings and put little mirrors on them.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I see them regularly flying by. Regularly.

[John C. Dvorak]

So Biden's come out with a book or he's coming out with a book in November and he produced a little video of him talking about this book coming out.

[Adam Curry]

Wait a minute. Don't tell me this is another listen to no agenda show segment.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, this is actually. This is Biden and I have two clips because I have a short version which is the segment that I want you to listen to a second time to try to tell me what he's saying. Okay, so let's play the long promotion for the book.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Since I left the presidency, I've had a lot of people ask me, joe,

[John C. Dvorak]

what have you been doing?

[Adam Curry]

Joe?

[John C. Dvorak]

Joe.

[Adam Curry]

I've been spending a lot of time with my family. I'm dealing with a cancer diagnosis and I've been getting treatment and it's been going really well.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want to thank all those love for their prayers, their support and well wishes they spent their the world. To me and to Jill.

[Adam Curry]

I've written a book about my time as president. It's called Promise me America. It's coming out in November. It's available for pre order now. We face as a nation about the decisions I made and why I made them. Leading the country through covered rebuilding our

[John C. Dvorak]

economy and restoring our democracy after the attack on January 6th.

[Adam Curry]

Ending our nation's longest war in Afghanistan,

[John C. Dvorak]

strengthening NATO and supporting Ukraine.

[Adam Curry]

It's about why I chose to run for re election and why I chose to step aside. Is this a coloring book that he is releasing or is it actual words?

[John C. Dvorak]

Be nice. So I get this segment there that, that where he mumbles a bit. Tell me what he says.

[Adam Curry]

Indian nation's longest war in Afghanistan, strengthening NATO. Okay. Something about the war in Afghanistan. Let me listen again. 89 nations longest war in Afghanistan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Strengthening NATO.

[Adam Curry]

Any.

[John C. Dvorak]

The longest war in Afghanistan. Oh, my.

[Adam Curry]

Any of our nation's longest war in Afghan.

[John C. Dvorak]

The nation's longest war. Ending the nation's longest war in Afghanistan.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, hold on. Ending our nation's longest war in Afghanistan. Okay. Ending the nation's war. Longest war in Afghanistan.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can. I'm a Joe Biden whisperer. I can hear him now.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. But now let's listen to the second part.

[John C. Dvorak]

Strengthening NATO.

[Adam Curry]

Strengthening Nudo.

[John C. Dvorak]

Strengthening NATO. Strengthening NATO.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

So is he going to do an audiobook? Because that would be. That would be genius.

[John C. Dvorak]

It. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. So I'm going to be competing with him with my book. I'm going to be talking to Mimi about it. My memoirs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, your book would be great. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. Here's what I understand about books. There's no money in it.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's not the idea.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm not running for president. What's the idea?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, if you ever run for president, you've got the book, right?

[Adam Curry]

What do you do a book for if there's no money in it?

[John C. Dvorak]

Have to get. It's a service. It's like, why do we do this podcast for. We don't get any money.

[Adam Curry]

It's a service. I know, but I already do a public service. Now I got to do another service.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you know, you haven't done the.

[Adam Curry]

The thing is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, exactly. It never ends.

[Adam Curry]

But here's. Here's what I realize, because throughout the years, I've written blog posts and stuff, and. And there's. I've told. I think I've told almost every single story on the show at some point, which is good, because I have transcripts of everything. Everything. I'm worried that my recollection of things may not be the way it actually happened. Someone comes out of the woodwork and says, hey, you're full of crap. What do you do in that case?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you. That's going to happen.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, of course it is, but then what. What do you do?

[John C. Dvorak]

Like you say, hey, that's the way I remember it.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. I just can't slander anybody, buddy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's easy enough.

[Adam Curry]

Well. But I gotta tell my Richard Marks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Unless they're dead.

[Adam Curry]

I gotta tell my Richard Mark story. You know, if there is.

[John C. Dvorak]

He dead.

[Adam Curry]

No, but he's litigious. He's very litigious. He's. He's crazy Richard Martin.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't even mention him in the book.

[Adam Curry]

But it's a great story.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, why don't you call him up.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

And tell him if you can tell the story.

[Adam Curry]

I don't need his permission to tell the story, do I?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, if you don't want to get sued, maybe. Maybe?

[Adam Curry]

Well, see now, I don't want to do a book.

[John C. Dvorak]

Boy, you're easy. What a pushover.

[Adam Curry]

The worst thing about Richard Marks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who? I had a. I don't even know who you're talking about. Somebody. Nobody knows who you're talking about.

[Adam Curry]

Are you kidding me? Richard marks in the 80s and 90s had number one hits back to back. You know, just because you don't know

[John C. Dvorak]

he was the Marx Brothers or. What are you talking about?

[Adam Curry]

Okay, I will play you a Richard Marx song.

[John C. Dvorak]

Song? He sings. He's a singer?

[Adam Curry]

Yes. He's a singer? Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

On what group?

[Adam Curry]

Richard Marks. He's just Richard Marks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I never heard of him.

[Adam Curry]

No. If I'm not surprised, you've never heard of him. But he's quite famous. Let me see, what's. He has all new songs. Where's his biggest hits? Was it right here waiting for you? Right here waiting for you. Dick Marks, this kind of stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, this is the kind of stuff I don't like. That's probably why I never heard it.

[Adam Curry]

No, of course not.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is boring.

[Adam Curry]

Look at. Oh, that's Brian Adams. Hold on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Light some candles, people.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, that's Brian Adams. That's not even.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you don't even get the right guy.

[Adam Curry]

Here we go. This is him.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is.

[Adam Curry]

Is him. There's your night.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sounds the same.

[Adam Curry]

1980s DX7. Synthesizer sound. He comes out of the smoke. Oh, yeah, this is good. Oh, yeah. He's got his blue jeans on, sits down at the piano.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't.

[Adam Curry]

You don't remember this song? No.

[John C. Dvorak]

It sounds like a dime a dozen.

[Adam Curry]

It's a long intro. Hold on, let's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, you can stop it.

[Adam Curry]

No, I want to hear him sing now. Anyway, so I made a joke about his hair once on mtv, which was okay, you know, I had hair, he

[John C. Dvorak]

had long hair, short hair, he had big hair. And so I said, big hair like you had?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And I said, there's Richard Marks with his hair at number four on the top 20 countdown. He tried to get me five. He literally tried to get me fired.

[John C. Dvorak]

For what?

[Adam Curry]

Because I made fun of him. He went, how'd you make fun of him?

[John C. Dvorak]

He just said he had hair.

[Adam Curry]

That's. I'm telling you. He went to Abby Konowitz. He went to Rick Crim.

[John C. Dvorak]

The irony would be if he's bald now.

[Adam Curry]

No, he's not. Well, no, the hard part is, you know, he's married to. You won't know her either. Daisy Fuentes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now you don't know Nick Fuentes. His sister.

[Adam Curry]

You're hopeless. This book is not for you, okay? This book is not for you. Don't worry about it. Don't read it. Mimi and I will make a book and we'll make a book. We'll make a book. And I want to do that whole download the PDF and if you want to buy it, then, value for value, just send me some money.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you'll get something out of it.

[Adam Curry]

Now we'll get nothing. You'll get nothing out of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, you get something.

[Adam Curry]

You just want me to do it so I can go on a promo tour.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it benefits for not having anything about Richard Marks, though.

[Adam Curry]

No. Because that was alleged. Legendary fights. This is legendary.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

And then we are on a live.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is just, you're, you're, you're unselling the book as we speak.

[Adam Curry]

We're on a live radio show and he says, I hope you get cancer. That was Richard Marx.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was kind of cute.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. So there's good stories there. It's good stories.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, let's play this clip. Fun fraud testimony.

[Adam Curry]

NTD Fun fraud testimony and following a

[John C. Dvorak]

string of major criminal fraud cases in federal pro programs, Senate lawmakers hear from investigative journalists and watchdogs on how to stop billions in taxpayer fraud before it happens. Entity correspondent Jason Blair has the takeaways. When a fraudster commits fraud, he or she steals from all of us. The Senate Homeland Security Committee is looking

[Adam Curry]

to tackle widespread fraud being exposed across the country. Chairman Rand Paul compares the federal government

[John C. Dvorak]

to private businesses that verify payments up front.

[Adam Curry]

Washington pays first and asks questions later if it asks them at all.

[John C. Dvorak]

No private business would survive this way.

[Adam Curry]

A bank confirms an account exists before wiring the money. A credit card company flags suspicious changes in seconds.

[John C. Dvorak]

Paul highlighted major criminal cases in Minnesota.

[Adam Curry]

Prosecutors have now charged 15 people in Minnesota with schemes involving more than $90 million. One autism services scheme alone, $46.6 million. The Justice Department calls it the largest Medicaid autism fraud case in its history.

[John C. Dvorak]

Independent journalist Nick Shirley, whose investigations helped expose those Minnesota cases, tells the committee the problem is nationwide now. The highest government funded daycare in Minnesota has pleaded guilty to daycare fraud. And the largest autism bust in American

[Adam Curry]

history has been exposed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exposed.

[Adam Curry]

If we as Americans do not stand up to protect our country, we will lose our country. Journalist James o' Keefe Describes undercover work that contributed to a federal prosecution. Recorded a woman named Brown handing over

[John C. Dvorak]

cash as payment in exchange for a homeless person to register to vote in a federal election.

[Adam Curry]

Now that is a federal crime. Ranking member Gary Peters describes bipartisan legislation

[John C. Dvorak]

he helped pass to stop conflicts of

[Adam Curry]

interest with pharmaceutical companies after learning that a company was being paid with tax dollars to advise the government on oversight of the pharmaceutical industry while simultaneously being paid by pharma companies to help market their drugs. You know, the fraud in America. I got a stat here. Let me see where this was half the budget. It. Here it is. Nine days of improper federal payments equals the entire annual budget we send to Israel. Nine days, two weeks of only Medicare and Medicaid fraud. I mean, it is out of control.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Can you imagine what it'd be like with Medicare for all?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, please. And also, we'd be broke.

[John C. Dvorak]

The whole country be down.

[Adam Curry]

Did I tell you that when I went to visit Lex? Remember my first boss on his.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Lex. Lex Luther.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. On his estate. He's got an estate. The guy has made so much money from art. I mean, do you walk through. We went to the Modern Museum of Art in Amsterdam.

[John C. Dvorak]

The State look, he's got better stuff at home. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, let me tell you, do not go to the State Look Museum. It is a gyp. It's a total like, what is this?

[John C. Dvorak]

This?

[Adam Curry]

It's a gyp. It's stupid. It's a gyp. It's like, oh, there's some sand on the floor with two shoes. And the title is Vimte Schippers is Gone. So we go to Lex's house. Oh, there's five war.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can you get me an invite so I can go to his house someday and. And look at his art?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think so. Well, you should have been there for the expo when he had his. He had his.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. It's too late now. I'm just saying now.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, you know, you go to the bathroom, there's two Keith Harings. All he does. He has pop art and then he has these photos. He's got a photo of the Beatles at the. At the Cavern Club. Cavern or Tavern or the Cavern Club in Berlin. You've never seen this photo before? It's before the one that everyone has always seen. I mean, he's got the most amazing stuff. Anyway, what was my point?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

It was about fraud. Yeah, it was something important. Oh, about the healthcare system. Medicare for All. So the Netherlands. Oh, they've got free health care. It's great. So when he needed something, and he's 81 now, he cannot go to a doctor and pay the doctor privately. He has to wait in line for weeks or months like everybody else.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why? I thought you could do that.

[Adam Curry]

No, not. No, not in the Netherlands. Nope, nope, nope.

[John C. Dvorak]

What about under the table?

[Adam Curry]

No, they won't do it. He says, I've tried everything. Yeah, he says you have to go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

If you get a specialist, then you might, for something very specialized, you might be able to get in within a week. But in general, back of the line, everybody's treated the same. Equity sucks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Equity.

[Adam Curry]

You're getting all feisty now it's equity. So just when you thought AI couldn't get any worse. Introducing anthropics. Claude, for teachers, you're also a mom. This is Amadi. This is the CEO's sister, who's also in management at the company. You're also a mom. Is this something you would hope to see in your children's school someday? I personally feel really, really excited. Excited for what it means. Oh, really, really, really, really excited. Kindergarten this year. And I'm really hopeful that his school will adopt, you know, Claude for teachers to help tailor curriculum for him and for his classmates. There are going to be parents who hear this and feel nervous because parents have watched their kids with smartphones and screen time and social media and they, they've seen the other unwanted, unintended consequences that they weren't really prepared for. This is in the hands of teachers now. But what do you say to the parents who are nervous that this new technology is going to repeat those same mistakes? I completely understand and relate to this worry. And I think a key difference here is that AI remains for 18 year old users and above only, so individual students below the age of 18 won't have access to the tool directly. And I think this isn't because we necessarily feel, you know, worried that this is, you know, a terrible thing to give to kids. But I think the reality is we just don't know enough about AI's impact on the developing brain. So let's just use it on kids for anthropic to feel comfortable giving access to students, students directly. We know that AI can hallucinate, it can make mistakes. If this chatbot were to make a mistake, if it were to give the wrong information or bad advice or reinforce bias, who would be accountable for that? These models are not foolproof. They do make mistakes. And part of how we have worked with teachers in developing this technology and really listening to their questions and concerns is helping to, you know, spot when an AI might be, you know, entering unknown territory. What are the signs to look for could possibly go wrong? Do not let your children into a school where they have Claude for teachers. This is not a good idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'd say the goo here. I got a Google, I got an AI story this week.

[Adam Curry]

All right, Google, big Google.

[John C. Dvorak]

And what does the future hold for the news industry as more people read AI powered news summarize summaries. NTD's David Lam asks an expert.

[Adam Curry]

Some news publishers are concerned about being asked to join Google's new pilot program for AI powered article overviews. According to a report in the information, content would be shared in Google News and Gemini AI giving Google broad rights on how to use the content. Matthew Gilbert, a senior lecturer of marketing, shares his thoughts on the current landscape of news summaries. I think there's definitely been a shift in how people look for information and also how they look to consume information. You do get links to the actual articles, but before any of that you're getting summary. And what's interesting is I think a lot of people, if they already see what they already need, they're not going to even click through beyond that. Currently, the Google News showcase platform pays publishers to create and curate online news content through a licensing program. But publishers fear that if they opt out of the new pilot, they may risk losing the fee they currently receive when Google shares their articles. Gilbert also notes that there's a risk to articles that feature deep investigative content. There's a real big risk that what you're producing gets lost in the shuffle or doesn't even get seen at all. Because if all that it's looking for is the sort of top level shorthand takeaway, that deeper investigation that, that more important information is not going to get read. Google says that for years it has produced 24 billion monthly visits to news websites. Chances are their content will still probably in some way or another still be getting fed into the AI system, whether or not they even are aware of it or not. Yeah, this news is broken. They need to stop this. This, this value for value by individual journalists is I think the only way to go. Maybe that's your opinion.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, my opinion is maybe, maybe.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you're an independent.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's a restaurant by the way, in the Bay Area that's doing value for value.

[Adam Curry]

Do they call it value for value?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they don't, but it's definitely value for value.

[Adam Curry]

Have you been?

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Well, and what do they do? Just pay whatever you think the meal was worth? Worth.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Or can you also choose to wash up to what I mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you mean do the dishes.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, time talent, wash up or you know, like, I don't know, set tables.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I don't know about that. Maybe. I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

I think you should go investigate, get in that old Lexus of yours, drive over there and go take a look.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, maybe I will. Maybe I'll get out of the house and check it out and you should

[Adam Curry]

record it and you should say this sucks. I'm not giving you anything.

[John C. Dvorak]

Money. Just do that and then Google can take and summarize it and I get nothing out of the all the effort.

[Adam Curry]

No. If your substack is value for value, can't people send you money if they want to? To the Oasis?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they can send me money.

[Adam Curry]

Do they send you money? Does it work?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I get some money.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well then it works. The system works. You're living the new international lifestyle. Enjoy.

[John C. Dvorak]

It sucks. It stinks.

[Adam Curry]

So we know about the Apple Open AI lawsuit. Do you have any thoughts on that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's a good. It's a gem. That's just my thought. Maybe. My thought is maybe.

[Adam Curry]

You can't have maybe everything I say. You can't just come back and say maybe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe is this theme for my maybe. What? Maybe.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe what? Maybe what?

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe they'll win.

[Adam Curry]

Well, maybe or not.

[John C. Dvorak]

What do you. What are you thinking about in this lawsuit?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm just going to lead it into a clip because open a AI supposedly they revealed what they're doing and it sounds dumb. OpenAI's first hardware device will reportedly be a speaker built as an AI companion. Kate Rooney oh, that's more. I feel like I ask you about this every day Kate. What we know about Google. Listen to it plans of OpenAI now some details Sarah They've been so secretive about it but we are now getting some new details and reporting around OpenAI's hardware plans as this company now fights a hardware lawsuit from Apple.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bloomberg now reporting OpenAI plans to launch

[Adam Curry]

what they describe as a screen free AI companion designed for your house. It does sound really similar to Amazon's Alexa would be a portable battery powered device would help control smart home devices,

[John C. Dvorak]

answer questions, play music as I mentioned

[Adam Curry]

has been been extremely secretive about these plans. Rumors have ranged from a wearable pin to some sort of earpiece. No comment from the company but sources I've talked to say the designs could change. It's still very much in the works and this report does also say the device may launch by the end of this year. OpenAI's entire hardware push though is now very much under fire after Apple on Friday sued the company and its top team members over allegedly stealing. Stealing intellectual property devices.

[John C. Dvorak]

Overall, it's been a major strategic push for this company. It did pay six and a half

[Adam Curry]

billion dollars to buy iPhone designer Jony I've startup late last year, so. A screen.

[John C. Dvorak]

We talked about this on the last show too.

[Adam Curry]

No, we did not.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes we did. Because we talked about specifically. You and I both agreed that Silicon Valley does this all the time. And we specifically talked about Johnny Ives.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but we didn't talk about the device. This is new. You didn't know about the device? No. The device is electric.

[John C. Dvorak]

Alexa.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I don't know. Is it?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Set timer.

[Adam Curry]

I think it's. I think it's just a chat bot block play.

[John C. Dvorak]

My play. That would be worse. Set timer. Okay. Would you want to talk about the weather? What's it going to talk to you about?

[Adam Curry]

But people talk. Hey, people talk to their chat bots all day long. So might as well have it in the house. House.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh God. Can you imagine?

[Adam Curry]

No, it's not for me, but yeah, I can imagine. I mean, yeah, what else? They don't have any other business. What is this supercut you have? I might as well drag you through it. Drag you through these last few minutes.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just got a kick out of these super cuts. This is the when. When Elon somebody put these together recently when Elon Musk bought Twitter they were all over it. And we're talking about everybody that hated this whole idea. And I went got two super cuts to talk about. First of all was the end of Twitter.

[Adam Curry]

Elon Musk has managed to bring Twitter to the brink of collapse in just three weeks. This is the end or was the end of Twitter with this one. Come back from destroying Twitter. Burning it to the ground. Musk burning the business to the ground. The absolute destruction of the platform formerly known as Twitter. Thanks to his decisions, Twitter is really in an ever quickening death spiral. They're going to have a hard time just keeping the lights on over at Twitter given this mass exodus. Advertisers, but also users heading for the exits. It's a shithole, right Elon?

[John C. Dvorak]

Fuck that shit up. There's better engagement on threads.

[Adam Curry]

He is not a media platform owner. He's never done this. He doesn't know what he's doing. It has to be just a question of time before whether it's Mastodon or some other site that actually operates in

[John C. Dvorak]

Responsible way takes over all of the Twitter users.

[Adam Curry]

We will go there Elon Musk and you know, this could be all fun and games for him. At the end of the way, he's going to drive this business into the ground. There will be nothing left.

[John C. Dvorak]

All advertisers are gone.

[Adam Curry]

You can't, you can't have a major brand in this country and be putting your ads on platforms like this that are unsafe to children, that are spreading misinformation about COVID that's actually killing people. He's a dangerous man. I've said it many times on the show. Well, when it comes to a podcast about media deconstruction, I think that that qualifies as clip of the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow, that's an obscure catch.

[Adam Curry]

It does.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well. So then we have after it didn't collapse in three weeks like everyone predicted.

[Adam Curry]

What did we say?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you said the Fediverse was going to take over everything.

[Adam Curry]

The Fediverse is the way to go, man. Decentralized baby is cool. The Fedivers Ask comics for blogger. He's been kicked off every single instance on the Fediverse ever. And then the ones he's allowed on, he says, this is no good. I can't syndicate with no agenda, no authority social. The most censored Fediverse node on the network is no authority. The most censored. And all they do there is they do these.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Fediverse was co opted by the left. That's the problem. Your whole idea originally, which I'm mocking now, but in fact it could have been true, except it was co opted by the left, which they do and has ruined it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it depends on how you view it.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the way I view it. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

That's the way you like. We have podcast index social and it's beautiful and it's not political at all. It's just about podcasting 2.0. It is a fantastic system. Works really well and people can still follow or jump in if they want to. And that has not been ruined by any political stuff at all. It's really good. And there's no moderating. I don't sit around blocking people and telling them to stop. Only one instance that I block and that's no authority social.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, good.

[Adam Curry]

And then, you know, because I don't. I don't have the time to be blocking Poast and you know, was it posters? Dot Social.

[John C. Dvorak]

Once.

[Adam Curry]

Once in a while I get all this group. Once in a while I get all these direct messages because there's. They had these contests the. Of the month. And then. Oh, God, yeah. And I was up against some dude from Sweden that lost.

[John C. Dvorak]

You lost. You weren't faggot of the month?

[Adam Curry]

Not faggot of the month.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's a shame.

[Adam Curry]

I know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's one more shorter clip, which is the super cut of. After the three weeks was over and they didn't flop, they started calling Twitter a cesspool.

[Adam Curry]

Elon Musk has turned X, formerly known as Twitter, into a cesspool. Twitter X is just such a cesspool now, but it's also a cesspool. Everything that goes on, it's a circus cesspool. Right now. It's a cesspool. Twitter is a cesspool, or X, I guess it's called now. Cesspool of just bad information, lies, hate. Twitter is becoming a deeper, darker cesspool of disinformation. And chaos has now really become a cesspool of missing disinformation.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Twitter sphere as it is, has really gone berserk lately.

[Adam Curry]

It's got to become almost a cesspool of misinformation. Arguably. It's never been this successful.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know.

[Adam Curry]

I think it's. It's. Yeah. And I think particularly with the. With the XAI integration and now the thing I did predict, Grok helps a

[John C. Dvorak]

lot being on there.

[Adam Curry]

The thing I predicted is the money stuff that's coming. I predicted that years ago. And that's.

[John C. Dvorak]

I agree you have and hasn't happened. But I'm not. I'm not saying that that's a bad prediction. I think the Fediverse prediction was a bit much. But that other one about the money. Yep.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's happened.

[John C. Dvorak]

Definitely.

[Adam Curry]

Apparently it's already in beta. And from what I understand, and if you put your money into the X wallet and I have no idea how it's going to work, you'll get 6%. I don't know how.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, it's going to be a fintech company. Fintech.

[Adam Curry]

You crack me up, Dvorak. Fintech, yes. That's another buzzword from the past, Fintech. But I had something on. What did I have? Something. I'm banking about money and fintech. What was it? Where was that? Oh, yeah, the Clarity Act. Yeah, that's what everybody's waiting for, the Clarity Act. So we can.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's the Clarity Act?

[Adam Curry]

The Clarity act is supposed to give clarity on how stable coins work and how. And I think,

[John C. Dvorak]

explain it.

[Adam Curry]

The main thing is the way I understand, and there's probably a lot more in the Clarity act. The Main thing is the guys who are doing stablecoin, they want to be able to give people interest on their deposits. And the banking sector is going, no, you can't do that. That's our business. And if you want to do that, you should become a bank. Bank. Subsequently, I think Circle USDC has become a bank.

[John C. Dvorak]

So.

[Adam Curry]

So that's what. I have, two clips from Loomis. Senator Loomis is the one driving this.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Democrats want Republicans to go on

[Adam Curry]

the record to reject ethics standards that

[John C. Dvorak]

would apply to President Trump and to Congress.

[Adam Curry]

It's not clear if there is 50 GOP senators willing to take that vote. Can you give us some color on that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

We've continued to work on ethics language that the Congress has to live under

[John C. Dvorak]

and the President has to live under.

[Adam Curry]

So some of the issues are things like, can a state attorney general sue an elected official? For some reason, they're talking about something other than the Clarity act here. They're talking about ethics.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know what that clip is, you guys. Your clip?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I don't think that clip is not. It's not valid. But I do have a Jesse Waters clip about our money. As Jesse paid a visit to the treasury and hung out with our general patent on the down low. Tonight, we're taking you somewhere the cameras usually don't go.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Treasury Department's secret vault.

[Adam Curry]

And we found something that's never been seen before.

[John C. Dvorak]

Beautiful room.

[Adam Curry]

And here is the Treasurer's Vault. Vault from 1863. And you know, Jesse, I can't let you pass the gate.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Too much money in there.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right. You don't trust me.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's not you. It's not you.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've heard that before. Yeah, exactly.

[Adam Curry]

And so what used to be in

[John C. Dvorak]

this vault or what's in this vault now?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I can't tell you what's in there now, but Americans used to come and cash their checks here. That's exactly what I was thinking. I can't show you what's in there now because there's no money. There's no actual cash in there where they came here. Yeah. Or banks could stop the clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, when. What was this? What about that? Whatever happened to the visit to Fort Knox that we're supposed to see by these. By the Fox people? Or somebody's going to go visit Fort Knox and show the gold.

[Adam Curry]

That was Elon. He was going to live stream it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, what happened to that?

[Adam Curry]

Well, they don't want to embarrass anybody because there's no gold vault Now, Well, I can't tell you what's in there now, but America, Americans used to come and cash their checks here. That's where they came. Here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

Or banks could present and get greenbacks. Solomon Chase, who was the treasurer or treasury secretary during the Civil War, created the greenback. We used to have. States used to have their own money. Banks used to issue their own money. And he consolidated into the greenback so people could swap for greenbacks here. Were there silver coins, were there gold coins, were there certificates? All the above.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

And we still have all those, but now most people use currency. I hear there might be a new brand of currency around the corner. Well, it's same currency, just different series. And it's going to look different. Well, it's going to. It's going to have one big change on it. For the 250. The President's signature is going to be on it for the first time. So I think it's fitting Donald Trump is president during our 250th anniversary. So it'll be the President's signature and my signature on it. So much. My $250 bill idea. Have you seen these? That's not collectible. Is that collectible? No, I don't think so either. Although there's going to be this gold $1 coin coin with Trump on it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's the coin that I have with Steve Jobs on it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's pretty collectible. Yeah, I'd say boots on the ground. A note. We finally have one. A producer and knight of the no Agenda roundtable. Gentlemen, I've been a longtime listener of the show. I've been a night since 2020. I was listening to episode 1884, Code Brown when I heard the challenge for any producers who are members of Patriot Front to step forward. Forward. Okay, here he is. I'm a member, photographer and social media influencer, Patriot Journo on Instagram for Patriot Front. This is like the marketing guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sure if you look hard enough into my donations, you can figure out who I am. Well, we have no time to do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're not doing that.

[Adam Curry]

We're not doing that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just tell us or we don't care.

[Adam Curry]

I don't mind. I don't even want to know. With all that said, I ask that you keep any and all personal information private. You ask why we wear the mask. I do so for my wife and children. Our opposition antifa Marxists, et cetera, would love nothing more than to run our employers and to run to our employers and Claim we are Nazis. Historically, they're often successful. And then he says something interesting because an influencer after all. Would you guys be interested in interviewing the leader of Patriot Front, Thomas Russo? I can't make any promises, but I believe he would be up for it. My Instagram account is also a wealth of information, from answers, commonly asked questions to speeches, et cetera. I'm happy to answer questions as well, but I do not speak on behalf of the organization. Only Thomas does. I would say no, we don't really do interviews. I don't think so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Something might be done.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, you might do it for a best of show. We'll call it the Nazi episode.

[John C. Dvorak]

We could do a couple of Nazis.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, man.

[John C. Dvorak]

Actually would be fun.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Would be do the Patriot Front guy and do some. The head of the Democrat Socialists.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah. Together at the. Like a debate in the same room.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I don't think they would get along.

[Adam Curry]

Host a debate. You should host a debate. You should debate him. Whatever happened to those we used? That was a. That was a thing for a little bit there. Podcasters debating each other, each other. I missed those days. Those. Those tastes were good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nobody cares about podcasters with that.

[Adam Curry]

I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the cytosis. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good morning you our ships to see. Boost at the ground, feet in the air, tops in the water and all the dames and knights out there.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, in the morning to you trolls in the troll room. Stop moving around. Let me count. There we go. Trick. Peak trollage of 1,339. It's kind of typical for a Thursday. Good to have Everybody here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Up 100 from last show.

[Adam Curry]

They are listening last Thursday, listening live to our stream because this is a live live to tape program. No editing, no going back on multi tracks and fixing little stumbles and burrs and ers. No, no. We are just professionals. We are professionals and we. We give you the real deal and we do it twice a week on Thursdays. Okay. And that means that when you want to, you can just listen live to us. You can also. And I think that's a big part of our success formula, actually. People like live. They, you know, there's something about it. Like it's like emergency, urgent, emergency pod. You know, it's like even if they can't listen live, they know that it has a live feel to it. Don't you think? Most podcasts feel dead Just dead.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, the NPR ones for sure. Well, every.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, those. The people who host those are dead. But these days and oh man, I am so grateful.

[John C. Dvorak]

A lot of podcasts do feel dead.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Just dead. Because it's like. Yeah. You know, they don't have the excitement. They're not walking on the high wire like we are.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, right. Tightrope.

[Adam Curry]

Tight rope.

[John C. Dvorak]

Walking on the tightrope.

[Adam Curry]

And I'm so happy we never went to video and did YouTube. And I see this. So Tina, she used to listen to Megan Kelly religiously. Religiously. Now with video, everybody just including Megyn Kelly herself, they just cut segments, you know, so it's like five minutes here, seven minutes there. And so she's scrolling along on the Instagram or whatever and they. Oh, yeah, no, I watched the Megyn Kelly show. Do you really watch the show? No, no, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just get a clip. I think this is what you identify. What I thought about the too. You identified a problem. Because I don't watch. I would watch a Joe Rogan show once in a while. Yeah, I don't think I've watched one for about a year because I just see these little segments and I figured that's the best of the show. Hey, it's like best of something.

[Adam Curry]

Something amazing just happened. Tina just texted me and said, I'm listening. She might. She might have the explosive diarrhea. Are you not feeling well, babe? She never listens to the show. That's amazing. She says, ha. I'm listening. I'm listening now. I always say, I always say, why don't you listen to the show anymore? She says, because I get you live here. I get all your conspiracy.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sick of it.

[Adam Curry]

I think that's what she's really saying. I'm sick of it already. Yeah. So anyway, no, but she's my canary in the coal mine. So when something bubbles because she's watching the interview, know people working out on. She's. She's an Instagram girl. It reels. She, you know, then she. She gets in the dog algo. The dog algos are kind of cute though, I have to say. You know, see the dogs doing stuff and cooking, man, it's still all with cheese. But then once in a while she gets in the podcast algo and it's literally just these Same with Rogan. I don't know if how many. I just don't think a lot of people watch an entire two or three hour Rogan anymore. Don't they just get the best of clips and just watch that there's millions of these accounts that post little clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, I got on an interesting algo stream, the Chick Fil A.

[Adam Curry]

On Instagram.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, on Instagram, Yeah. Chick Fil? A. Every other thing was a Chick Fil? A post. People in cow costumes, people. Just one thing after another. It must have been a hunch. And they're all native ads of some sort. I don't know how they're doing it, but Chick Fil? A was just producing tons of these Instagram posts from all over the place. Damnest thing I've ever seen, huh?

[Adam Curry]

And how long were you in this algo hole?

[John C. Dvorak]

As far as I know, I'm still in it.

[Adam Curry]

If you want to be alerted when we go live, you need one of these modern podcasts, apps. These have been around. They're mature now, these apps. They're, you know, five, six years these new apps have been around, and they are still much better than the legacy apps for if only for this reason that when you subscribe to the podcast, when we go live, and there's several other. A lot of live podcasts, certainly in the no Agenda Nation realm, Gitmo Nation, you get a note, you get, boom. Your. Your app goes, hey, the boys are going live. Live. And a little art, you know, like, oh, tap. Boom, you're listening. And I think maybe even more important because of the pod ping technology we deployed across hundreds of thousands of podcasts that use this now. But of course, Apple and Spotify don't use this. So when we publish the show within 90 seconds, your app notifies you. So there's no. No longer refreshing and waiting. Where's my podcast now? Boom. It just happens right away. As you heard earlier, we are enjoying the benefits of the new international lifestyle known as value for value, which is the only way to go. We. We don't have to worry about anything we say. Well, I guess slander would be one. But we don't have to worry about pissing off advertisers or, you know, misreading something or doing, giving the wrong promo code, none of that stuff. All we have to do do is just do the show, which we do kind of as a public service, but we. We like continuation. We like, you know, doing the show. And the only way that we can do that is if you support us. And you do that by returning whatever value you got from the show. So there's no set number, no set amount of times. We will tell you honestly, when donations are down, if we don't say anything, then donations are good. They're A little bit down today, but it's not horrible.

[John C. Dvorak]

Horrible.

[Adam Curry]

It's kind of been the same forever, hasn't it?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's been dull.

[Adam Curry]

Dull.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well really, I mean, you know, it's been, it's been, it's been low generally.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's been high, but it's consistently.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it's not like, you know, bouncing all over the place. It's just about this and you know, here and there, plus or minus a few you donations.

[Adam Curry]

It's amazing how it kind of evens out with just when the numbers are really bad, then someone will come in with a big donation. It's really interesting how it works. I mean we could write a book about that, but why would we? There's no money in it. Haven't we considered that? Didn't someone at some point want us to write a value for value book?

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought I got a more of an essay.

[Adam Curry]

It's like half a substack anyway. You can support us in multiple ways. Time, talent and treasure. That is, that is the system. And a lot of people do things for us, set up websites, run different things for us. It's really quite amazing how much people are willing to help. Boots on the ground helps enormously. And show art artwork is always good because we see that as promotional motion whenever we post a show. It also shows up in your podcast app. We've been one of the few shows who has done this before AI. We were definitely like one of three shows that did it consistently had new artwork for every single show because it was so hard to make. And we've trained people to doing things in a certain way and you know what works and we know what works and it's, it's, it's an attention game grabber. So when we saw the artwork by Jeffrey ria for episode 1885, we titled that one Adult Daycare. We went, yeah, that's the one. It was. I guess that's a code brown Ed explosion.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, something like that.

[Adam Curry]

There's a bathroom and it just. But it's nice. It was no agenda. Curry and Dvorak. I think Jeffrey Ria is a hybrid artist. I don't think, I don't think this is all.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's never told us.

[Adam Curry]

I'm just thinking.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or has he?

[Adam Curry]

I'm just thinking that he's a hybrid artists. We have a lot of those. Hybrid artists.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. In other words, you do the AI and then you take and drop in Photoshop and fix it.

[Adam Curry]

Do some stuff. Yeah, do some stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I mean like color balance. Hello.

[Adam Curry]

We Had.

[John C. Dvorak]

How. How much work does that take?

[Adam Curry]

I love when you say, I can fix this by color balancing. I'm like, I'm going to wait for that. No, just choose something from Darren. Let's see. See, we actually had some funny art. Just funny for us. No more Darren o'. Neal. That was Micho. Miss. Miss Cho Ho. Some of the comics for Blogger put a lot of stuff up there, including Darren o'. Neal. Even did a no more Darren. Stop. Darren. Slop. All stuff we'd never use, but we got to laugh out of it. Appreciate that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, his. Yeah, there's a big number of no more Darren.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we kind of like the. The instructor jumping out of the airplane, but that's kind of gruesome.

[John C. Dvorak]

No?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Yeah. I liked the blue acorn. Sam. I am with the cat in the hat with the. With the green brain. And you thought that was too gruesome.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can't remember what I'm looking for. Oh, that one.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't like that at all.

[Adam Curry]

I liked it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't like his name. Neck. I don't like the brain. Now that's not happening.

[Adam Curry]

What's wrong with the brain? It looked nice.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sick.

[Adam Curry]

All right, Jeffrey, Ria, thank you very much for your contribution to the best podcast in the universe. It is highly appreciated. Now we go to the treasure portion. These are people who support US$50 and above. We'd like to thank everybody not under 50 for reasons of anonymity. And there are a lot of people who give us very small amount, you know, $2, $3, $3.33. 11, 11, 12, 12. So the list would just be a little bit too long. But we always like to highlight people who are in the fortunate circumstance to be able to give us an executive or associate executive producer donation. So it's $200 or more. Not only are we guaranteed to read your notes, which people take advantage of in interesting ways, but we will also give you the title, Showbiz Hollywood, title of Executive Associate executive producer. $300 or more, and you get the executive producer credit. And these can be used in any Hollywood situation. So it's the real deal, including IMDb.com or put it on your LinkedIn or in your social media profile on your letterhead. And if anyone ever questions that, we'll be happy to vouch for you. So our first executive producer and coming in straight away with $1,000 plus the fees, which is $30.26, is Sir Dan the Man. Sir Dan the Man's been around for a while. He's from Cape Coral, Florida, and he has a longer note here. Let me see what.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that first request for a kidney.

[Adam Curry]

He has a request for a kidney.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a no Agenda first that nobody's about to read.

[Adam Curry]

He needs a kidney.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, his wife does.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, well, let's see what's going on. Dear Adam and John, I'm writing as a longtime no Agenda listener and supporter to let you know I'll be making this show donation of $1,000. I appreciate, I appreciate the work you do and the community you've built around the show. Normally I would remain semi anonymous, but these are not normal times for my family. I want to humbly ask you to share this message with the no Agenda community about my wife Linda and her kidney transplant journey. A few weeks ago, with no warning, we found out that she is in end stage renal failure. Dr. Dvorak, what does that mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

That makes your kidney stop working and

[Adam Curry]

you have two kidneys. So both kidneys have failed, I guess.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. You only need one.

[Adam Curry]

We have started a GoFundMe to help with the medical and related expenses that come with transplant care, recovery travel and ongoing support. Most importantly, Linda is also in need of a kidney donor. And anyone who'll be willing to get tested can start the process [e-mail] Mtilivingdonor.org if any fellow producers or listeners feel moved to help, whether by donating, sharing the fundraiser, or considering living donor testing, it would mean a great deal to our family. So I'll put this link in the show notes in the credits. Thank you for considering the request and thank you for the laughs, the insight and the community you continue to create. I'm grateful to be able to support the show and I would be deeply grateful for any help spreading the word for Linda. And he wants Mac and cheese and a jobs karma and all the health karma we can spare. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna up the ante here. If any no Agenda producer donates their kidney to Linda, I will take you out to dinner personally. I will come to wherever you are in the country and I will take you out to dinner. But it's only if you, if it's your kidney. Now if it's your kid's kidney, you get 2D dinners guaranteed. Well, we certainly hope for the best, Sir Dan the man for you and for Linda.

[John C. Dvorak]

You slaves can get used to Mac and cheese, Mac and cheese, macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together.

[Adam Curry]

Mac and cheese, Mac and cheese, Mac and cheese Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's vote for jobs.

[Adam Curry]

You've got karma. That is definitely a first. Definitely a first.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, definitely.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mr. Lips is up. He's at 3. 46. 46. And he has a note that's just the opposite. It's short. Thanks for all you guys. Do Love you both, Mr. Lips.

[Adam Curry]

Love you. Mean it, Mr. Lips. Hey, there's Manuka Gold in Hudson, Florida. 333.33 and Manuka Gold. The entire family says keep fighting the good fight from Manuka Gold. And thank you for the nice feedback on on Sunday. We just placed an order with Gigawatt Coffee. I love this cross promotion. We're excited to try it. We're truly passionate about natural health and there is real science for the health benefits of coffee. Not only is it amazing for brain health, but it also lowers the risk of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. And on a personal note, as someone who took care of my mother full time for six years while she battled Parkinson's, I'm a faithful drinker of dark roast black coffee and that seems to be Gigawatt coffee's specialty. I can't wait to report support back. And don't forget, for those you who want to, you can stop by and Visit [e-mail] Use code FREEDOM for the whole month of July for an extra 20% off. This one is from Kelly and the entire Manuka Gold family. Thank you, Manuka Gold.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's interesting. Gigawatt also sent Jace a birthday gift of coffee.

[Adam Curry]

Ah, this is so nice. A small family.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have another interesting note here. This is Rosalind K. Price in Birmingham, West Midlands, UK. 333. Thank you. I'm a choreographer in the UK who got canceled in 2021 and since then have set up a support organization and we should link to it. Www.freedominthearts.com Freedominthearts.com Always one word. Your show gives me and my family strength and hope. So I looked into this.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a very famous person. In fact, I sent you a show notes memo which has a link to her interview on GB1 out of the UK.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

On YouTube.

[Adam Curry]

I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's fascinating. She was a famous choreographer in the UK that did all these very elaborate productions under the Rosie K dance troupe.

[Adam Curry]

Really?

[John C. Dvorak]

And she just mentioned at a house dinner party to some new group of dancers. She just casually said, well, I don't know if trans, you know, does impinge on seems to. It's a trans thing. Yeah. Impinges a bit on women's rights. And she got canceled because there's a whole structure set up to. To get her fired from her. Her own company. And the whole thing is she's very. It's very interesting. So this. She describes some of it or some of the mechanisms to fight against it on this website.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they got tool kits and all kinds of stuff here.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the story on the. On in the video is more interesting than her website.

[Adam Curry]

Myself, Rosie Kay, and this is Denise Farmey in the red over here to launch the new boycott crisis and the Art Beyond Boycott toolkit. Oh, you know what? So for her, I think she should join the new international lifestyle of value for value. This is the kind of person who could do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. We're happy that we give you and your family strength and hope. That's so nice. Thank you. Rosalind K. Price. That's nice to know. We're doing good, John.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he's doing good. That's us.

[Adam Curry]

We're doing good for people. I like that. Peter Meir is in Houston, Texas. $327. Thank you, Peter. I've been listening to you guys for about 16 years at least. And one of those weirdos and was one of those weirdos that went back to the beginning when it was bare bones. I guess I'm paying it backwards now. ITM times 34. ITM times 34 x 34. I'm not sure what x 34 is.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know what that means.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you, Sir Dave. Dahap. Dahap. It's all caps. Dap in Gladstone, Missouri. It must mean something.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

2:57. 94. This is the first associate executive producer. Happy birthday to the BC country. Itu heading to Tanzania.

[Adam Curry]

Tanzania. Tania. Tan. Tania.

[John C. Dvorak]

I knew that didn't sound right.

[Adam Curry]

Tanzania.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tanzania. What? Where's Tanzania?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know, man. Tanzania.

[John C. Dvorak]

Heading to Tanzania for a few weeks to hit help an NGO that works with victims of human. Human trafficking.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Traveling karma. Please. We'll keep an eye out for more Africa news. It's a crowd pleaser. Sir Dave Dahap.

[Adam Curry]

All right, you've got Karma. Over to Indianapolis, Indiana. 257.94. I'm pretty sure that's 250. A Freedom donation plus some fees. Sir Digi. And he says, this is from Sir Digi. And we thank you very much, Sir Digi.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then we go to Jeremy Brogan in Amherst, Ohio. 250. 15. Now I realized he put the fees in too. Because he sent in a check.

[Adam Curry]

That's 15 cents

[John C. Dvorak]

compared to 794.

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hello, people. ITM, gents. A slightly late and matching quarter millennium donation. Plus fee. Fees. Yeah, plus fees.

[Adam Curry]

Can I ask you a question about fees?

[John C. Dvorak]

15.

[Adam Curry]

Let me ask you a question.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So someone sends us $250 plus fees, so that's 257.94. Don't we get docked over the $257.94 for fees?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not sure how they do the calculation.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

But that money is what we get.

[Adam Curry]

All right, back we'll come. Carry on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you, John, for making me cry while shaving when reading my son Connor's note for my birthday. Father's Day, slash, Father's Day. Suffer. Now. He wants. Oh, okay. This is for you. Sorry. He wants suffering succotash with a we're all gonna die. And then he says, five to eight more years. Jeremy Brogan, Amherst, Ohio.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, why don't you dream on with your five to seven more years Suffer and succotash. I'm Scott. Simon. We're all gonna die. All right. Nailed it. Hey, there's Sir Cal from Lavender Blossoms in Northville, Michigan with 22772. While I love to hear from our boy Cal, thanks for all you do. Keep it up, John. Tip of the day. Drink motherwort tea for calming and healing the heart. Love you, Sir Cal. Of lavender blossoms, I'm pretty sure lavenderblossoms.org is still up and still operating. Aren't they? We haven't looked at them in a while.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Adam Curry]

Let me see. Lavender blossoms. Because he grows that lavender himself.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hmm.

[Adam Curry]

Lavender. Is it lavender? Lavender? Hmm. I don't know. It may not. It doesn't look like it's up. Might not be doing it right. Thank you very much, Sir Kal, we appreciate you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now we have. You have to pronounce his surname. I would pronounce it Miles Vredenburg. Miles, but you apparently had. It's a Dutch pronunciation. It would be different.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Fredenberg.

[John C. Dvorak]

What about his first name?

[Adam Curry]

Miles. Miles. Miles Fradenberg. And that translates to Freedom Mountain.

[John C. Dvorak]

Freedom Mountain. Miles. Freedom Mountain in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

[Adam Curry]

Or it could be Berg. Just Freedomburg is probably more accurate.

[John C. Dvorak]

21:15. As an American, I'm curious to hear the correct Dutch pronunciation. Oh, he doesn't even know. That's a good one. That's good. First and foremost, please de douche me. You've been de douched. I could also use some jobs. Crime. I'm a dude named Ben looking for an exit strategy. Thanks for all you do. I appreciate you folks. Miles Fredenberg from Commie Cambridge Massive two shits. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and Jobs. Let's vote for Jobs.

[Adam Curry]

You stop Karma and coming in hot as she does every single episode. And we are grateful for that. Linda Lou Patkin from Castle Rock, Colorado. And she has asked, as always, for jobs karma. And she has a message for you which is important. Your Resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't. For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com Lynda helps professionals and executives position their experience so employee employers see their value. That's image Makers Inc. With a K. And Linda Lou, Duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes. Best Linda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and Jobs. Let's vote for Jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. You're. You're going all robocop again. I'll do this one. Something. Something's weird with your connection all of a sudden. Yeah, you're no good. I think you said change networks. I would say that's a good idea. And I will read the donation note from unblockmevpn.com in the meantime, from Honolulu, Hawaii. $200 ITM Protect your privacy and freedom with UnblockMe VPN on the Apple and Play stores. Others on our others on our website@unblock me vpn.com 2 free servers, 22 paid, unthrottled, cancel anytime. Trained on the great firewall to make it the best VPN out there. Give thanks. Are you back?

[John C. Dvorak]

Keep going.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, did you switch? Because you're good now.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I didn't switch yet.

[Adam Curry]

But I have a feeling it's not just you. I think it's a routing issue because every single time it happens. Happens? My YouTube TV, the quad screen goes into a circle.

[John C. Dvorak]

But that would seem like it's not me.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, it's the connection between me and California because no one has had any. Has any. Had any issues. And the. The stream is still good. The chat room's up, so I don't know. Scam likely. Go away. Scammer. Our final associate executive producer is SEAN [e-mail] what is this? Houston, Texas. $200. Long time listener, first time caller. No need to deduce. Well, okay, listen up. If you've got a business and have clients or investors. Oh, we need some investors. If you're already sharing documents, tracking distributions and accounting or managing communications, you know how important it is to keep everything secure, organized, and easy to Use use. If you've been looking for a better way to handle fundraising, waterfall or capital calls and other automation and payments, then yes, yes, Investor Portal Pro fits right in. This isn't this is new Investor Portal Pro is 100% employee owned, built for clean professional investor and shareholder presentation and trusted to just work. This is quite the ad here. Visit investor portalpro.com or take text 212. Well that's an old school New York number. 212-658-0862 and use the code ITM for 20% off. That's investorportalpro.com or 212-658-0862. Love some jobs, Karma and do you have anything with art? Bill? I don't think we have anything from art Bell.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Let's vote for jobs. And that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1886. We appreciate what all of you have done for us today. We'll thank everybody right after we tell you once again that these credits are real and Hollywood style.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our formula is this.

[Adam Curry]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up Slade.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shut up Slade.

[Adam Curry]

Continue with our gratitude for our value for value Treasure supporters $50 and above. Stefan Truckles in Seuss Deutschland $110.11. We see your pal and drome and he said he was happy to have met Joe from Michigan today in his local restaurant was founded in 1638. Wow, that's an old restaurant. There is the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs. Or Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina with his every single show boob donation $80.08. God bless America and boobs, he says. Juraj Kojak in Prague checks in with a boob donation. Thank you. Hello Prague. James Edmondson, South Plainfield, New Jersey. Double nickels on the dime. Lane Lamoreaux in Gilbert, Arizona. 50 and says it's laying your buddy in Baghdad. Far from the green zone, 22 km. In fact, apart from a few times ordinance has flown over campus walls, we're in a green bubble. Summer break is here, the pools are open. Luke Monnell In Los Angeles, California, $52.72. And we hit the 50s. Whoa, that was fast. Psamitra Saravana in Fredericksburg, Virginia. 50 bucks. Thank you, sir. Kevin Dills, Huntersville, North Carolina. Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut. Philip Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky. Chris Lewinsky. Sir Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada. Pamela Bradley in Tecumseh. Tecumseh. I'm sorry, Tecumseh, Oklahoma. And Chris cowan, our final $50 donor from Austin, Texas. After that, we got $49.99. We see you all and we will not mention you, but thank you very much. We appreciate all that you do. We appreciate everyone who sports the best podcasts in the universe. It really means a lot and it keeps the so thank you and if you'd like to support us, go to noagendadonations.com anytime you feel like it. Anytime you feel like you got some value out of this podcast, send it back to us. You can even set up a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency. Noagendadonations.com. And we have only two birthdays today. We have end of show mixer serve David Kekta, who wishes Helena Kekta a very happy birthday. She turned 16 yesterday. Happy birthday, Helena. And Sir Dave wishes country itu a happy birthday. We say the same Happy birthday from everybody here. The best podcast in the universe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Douchebag.

[Adam Curry]

Now, this is a layaway baron upgrade from Sir Gary and he sent a note because it's under the the normal amounts that we read. Notes says, I know there are many of us retired folks who send a smaller donation every month and once in a while put in a bump for the sake of those sad puppies that John posts. I hadn't checked my donation spreadsheet for some time and I calculate that my pittances have added up to $2,641.36. Just think, all that money would have gone to what we in Minnesota called the pink sheet, the Minneapolis Star Tribune. Much better value for value with the no Agenda show. I wish to change my moniker to Baronet. Sir Gary who plays Taps. I've been state Director for bugles across America.org for many years. I've led my state's 173 volunteers providing live Taps free of charge for any veterans honor services. Wow, that's very cool if you'd mention my organization. Remind families of vets when they are arranging honors to ask if they have a live bugler. BAA's website is an easy portal to make sure those 24 notes have a heartbeat behind them. It's always free of charge and always deserved. Hoping your search for an exit strategy continues to be a failure in the morning. And yes, with that, Sir Gary, you begin become Baronet Sir Gary who plays Taps. And we thank you for your continued support of the show. Very nice. Hey, it's time for the meetups. Yeah, we got a couple of meetup reports. When it rains, it pours, so to speak. Here is the Keller Texas meetup Report.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hello, no agenda nation.

[Adam Curry]

This is Yeoman Zach here at what's on Tap in Keller, Texas. I'm having a beer by myself, but as a friend of mine says that's okay. The journey to a well attended meetup is a beer by yourself in the morning. Ah, in the morning. I'm sorry no one showed it. We sent some pictures. That was kind of cool. Here is the Scottsdale Arizona meetup report. This is Lynn, the hostess with the mostes at the Scottsdale no Agenda media deconstruction meetup and it has been amazing. Hi, this is Dame Stephanie at the Scottsdale meetup enjoying some tacos and some great company. Quick shout out to the blonde squad plus Trish.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey. Hey.

[Adam Curry]

This is sir Don Baron of Chandler enjoying some tacos and some cold beers. Love is lit. Hey, this is Bruce and here at the Scottsdale meetup. First time our new listener and here enjoying company of like minded individuals. Hi, this is Gina from Phoenix at the Scottsdale meetup. I want to give a shout out to my brother Dale in Cannon beach for hitting me in the mouth about three years ago. ITm John and Adam. Hey, I'm Mike. I'm a douchebag and no agenda people are cool. I'm Mel. I came with Gina. I don't listen to the show but

[John C. Dvorak]

maybe I will in the morning. John.

[Adam Curry]

In the morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam. This is Rick from Mesa.

[Adam Curry]

We're here at Loco Patron.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our host Lindsay is awesome and I love the show. Hey John and Adam.

[Adam Curry]

This is your conscience speaking.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know what you did.

[Adam Curry]

Just kidding. I don't know what you did and I don't care. This is Kenny. Bye now. Hey, this is Scott Sanders, North Scottsdale. We dodged the monsoons in the dirt wind. So we're all clean and we enjoy our our meetup. Effy.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not as weird as my husband.

[Adam Curry]

I don't listen to the podcast. I apologize. But I'm sure it's amazing. I love the no Agenda crew. They are awesome. They've been amazing guests. The no Agenda meetup people are some of the most interesting and fun people I've ever in my life. Great shout out to Lindsay who set up the whole thing, the whole mastermind behind the project. Everyone here seems to lead great lives and seem like amazing people and I hope they see them again soon. Well, there you go long. But a lot of people at the Scottsdale Arizona meetup and you hear it there. The people are fun. There's amazing people. You will meet so many cool people at a no agenda meetup People you just might have never ever encountered anywhere else. But because of the show, because of the nature of no agenda nation and gitmo nation, you'll get together, you're going to enjoy it. And sometimes people even get married.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hi, John. Hi, Adam.

[Adam Curry]

Well, in the beautiful evening, it's sir Scott the Jew.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's another meetup's wedding. And how they met was through no agenda. They said they had met at a no agenda meeting and that's how they got together. The sun came out for us in

[Adam Curry]

Coeur d', Alene, Idaho.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stella's on the hill hosts a great wedding.

[Adam Curry]

Beautiful couple, Holly and and Jeff in

[John C. Dvorak]

the morning here at the impromptu meetup

[Adam Curry]

at the wedding overlooking beautiful Clane lake. And I want to say congratulations to the happy new no agenda couple. And as a reminder to Jeff and Holly, the couple that know agendas together stays together in the morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the morning.

[Adam Curry]

This is a dude named Jeff and I just have to say I met my smoking hot wife at and no agenda meetup.

[John C. Dvorak]

So get out there, there.

[Adam Curry]

Find the connection. That is your protection. Yeah, come on you dorks, get out of the basement. Good things happen here in beautiful Sunday

[John C. Dvorak]

cordelane celebrating Jeff and Holly's wedding in the morning.

[Adam Curry]

This is Holly, the bride. Thank you. No agenda meetups. That's how I met my keeper.

[John C. Dvorak]

It doesn't get more no agenda than that.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, isn't that wonderful? We've had several, several weddings happen here on the show. We've had proposals on the show and it's nice to hear that we made another love connection at a no agenda meetup. There you go. Now is that an endorsement or what? I don't need to say anything else other than we have a meetup taking place today in Charlotte, North Carolina. Ed's Tavern. It's Charlotte's. Thirsty third Thursday monthly. It'll be on at 7:00 o' clock tonight. On Saturday, the meetup down at the sea at warehouse number nine. Number nine? Number nine that is in San Pedro, California. And guess What? Warehouse number nine three. 33 Pacific Time. Coming up this month, what's left of it. On the 25th of July, three Spicewood, Texas, Anaheim, California and Fort Wayne, Indiana. On the 26th, Sequim, Washington. Will Mimi be attending, do we know?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, just say maybe. Just say maybe. That's all you got?

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe. Oh yeah, maybe.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe. Coeur d', Alene, Idaho. Their next meetup, July, July 30th. Who will be the next bride? And also on the 30th Alpharetta Georgia. These are the no agenda meetups. What a great place to go hang out with people. It's completely free of charge to make them set them up to go to attend them. It's very easy to do. Go to noagendameetups.com and you will find out very quickly how to put it all together. There's instructions. You can list it there. And if you can't find one near you, why don't you just start one yourself? It's super easy and they are always guaranteed a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you won't be triggered on Hell you want to be where everybody feels the same.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like a party.

[Adam Curry]

You know I'm thinking I was just looking at all my systems here when you started to RoboCop YouTube TV went down. My anthropic Claude codes all disconnected. I think there might have been a minor earthquake somewhere in in California. Something happened in California. I think the whole Internet burped over there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Possible.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Troll room. Check it out. So let me know if something happened because it was the weirdest thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Go to the USGS earthquake site. They have all of them up today.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. See if there's. If something's on going or if it was just some Internet glitch. You know how that works. We have John sip of the day coming up in just a few along with our end of show mixes. But we always like to end the show with the humans versus the machine. It's the end of show isos isolated clips. I bring people. John brings machines. And I will start mine because I don't think I will win. Here's my first.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that was hilarious.

[Adam Curry]

Actually that's not too bad. I kind of like that, that one. How about this one? Thank you very much and always from the well, incredible job. Thank you so much. No, I think they're kind of flat.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I don't know who they're thinking.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, us.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have two celebrities here are politicians.

[Adam Curry]

Amazing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I got Kamala Harris.

[Adam Curry]

John and Adam are John and Adam and they both good podcasters. As long as they podcast. It's very long.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's long winded. What can I say?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, long winded. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's try Obama day. Don't know if you can find a

[Adam Curry]

better podcast than no agenda. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

A definite winner. Very good. Hey, it's time for John's tip of the day. Great advice for you and me just with JCD and sometimes Adam, let it not be Another cleaning product?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I only do those once a month.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. Not good.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, this is a cool product. This is a summer product for the people in the Northern hemisphere. These things are fantastic. And this is a pretty good one. And this comes in various lengths depending on your patio.

[Adam Curry]

Uh huh.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a. And I'll spell it. Mel M E L L B R E e. Mel Bray. Mr. For outside patio. And they're pre. They're 19 bucks for a 30 footer. They're pre assembled misting cooling systems with eight brass nozzles.

[Adam Curry]

I love these things. These are great. In Texas has them all over the place.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, of course Texas would. Texas of all places would love these things because they're good. They're good for the patio, backyard garden, greenhouse, chicken coop, doghouse. And what it does and I've run you, you set it up and it. And it puts out this extremely fine mist of water and itself and it creates evaporative cooling in the vicinity of the mist.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it's nice. It feels great.

[Adam Curry]

Now do you just hook it up to the outside tap? Is that one what you do?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep. You hook it up to the outside tap and just string it all over you, wherever you want to put it and then turn it on.

[Adam Curry]

Turn it on. Dead man. And what does this product cost?

[John C. Dvorak]

19 bucks. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

What is it called?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the 30 footer.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it goes up in price if you want like 60 foot.

[Adam Curry]

And the brand, once again, Mel Bray.

[John C. Dvorak]

M E L L B R E

[Adam Curry]

E I'm telling you, if you want to stay cool during the summer months, John's Tip of the day is the place for all you great advice for you. And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Burnetti. Of course you can find all of john's [e-mail] and noagendafun.com and we come to the end of our broadcast day. As you know, we do it twice a week on Thursdays end of show mixes. Coming up we've got Bonald, Crabtree, Just Baker. See, we got Johnny Sir Johnny B. And I put Oysteinbergers in abeyance. I'm sure we'll get to it. It's always is his own compositions. And coming up next on the no Agenda stream or if you're still listening in your modern podcast app, we have the Millennial Media Offensive version. Very popular podcast. They'll be coming up next and we will return with you on Sunday. Of course that all depends on whether there's an earthquake in San Francisco or not. If if you guys keep your Internet connection up, I haven't heard anything, so I guess it was just a temporary blip or glitch. So, coming to you from the say what? What'd you say?

[John C. Dvorak]

I. I didn't say anything.

[Adam Curry]

I thought you said something. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill Country, where we are still suffering from the rain. Strict backscatter in the morning, everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm Adam Curry, and from northern Silicon Valley, where people are hearing voices, I'm John Cdvorak.

[Adam Curry]

We'll be back on Sunday. Remember [e-mail] until then, adios mofos. A hooey, hooey and such. The light's gone Lindsey took the final bow now the curtain's drawn Bernie still screaming like a punk rock dad but the rest of them look like your grandpa's iPad House raps rising Governor's vibing mayor stealing same light hey we thrive in rowan AOC with the neon glow jump kicking through the primaries like a J Pop show celebrities the crowd wants you Snappy old car who's that man in the photo Lord mystery spawn looking 20 years restored is it photoshopped? Nope. Is it CIA mask rumors flying like confetti in a storm but he's just in a nursing home in Super HD

[John C. Dvorak]

4 solid race and goodbye the house

[Adam Curry]

stole the spotlight reaching sky high value for value is how this operates Tony for no edge and then a prop a gate. They say the old turtle still kicking tucked away where the cameras don't reach Came back with a face that looks like it fouled for an extension on

[John C. Dvorak]

the ears

[Adam Curry]

Some whisper it's a stand in wearing someone else's skin we won't solve the riddle here but the details keep stacking in the turtle crawdadder would ever behold they had him in looking brand new like time decided to run backwards just for him and nobody else in the room holding up today's paper like a soundcloud proof he's still drawing breath While half the Internet's convinced they rolled out a new amount of who knows how to do the math Handsome claim they slap the flesh color forgery straight from the three letter crowd the kind that sweats and blinks on command when the lights get too loud Others say they just swap the frame and get the same voice on the line either way the picture's dropped and now

[John C. Dvorak]

the timeline doesn't quite align Miracle Mitch

[Adam Curry]

with the unexpected refresh Looking like a calendar took a hard lift and reversed the mess standing on silicone Special delivery from the agency that never sleeps. We won't crack the case on the show, but the questions keep piling up. Demons Miracle Mix the Turtle share whatever shell they had him in came back with a whole new timeline stamped across his skin. The show won't close the file. That's never how this goes. But the glow up is glowing, and the story keeps pulling at the loose ends. It show Miracle Mitch or Mask Mitch or Model Mitch Worth a second glance. Value for value. Take a Take a little bit of mix it with some power piss inside

[John C. Dvorak]

a subway that's black power.

[Adam Curry]

Getty Images Pull a Horosa park stunt Crack Doubting confused next to Patriot Front.

[John C. Dvorak]

Blame his friends for a crime.

[Adam Curry]

Mofo dvorak.org Naday don't know if you can find a better podcast than no Agenda.