1890 - "Flock Off!"

Summary

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No Agenda Show – Episode 1890: “Flock Off!”

Airdate: July 30, 2026
Hosts: Darren O’Neill & Larry Bleidner (filling in for Adam Curry & the late John C. Dvorak)
Theme: Deconstructing Media, Surveillance, Fauci Hearings, AI & Legacy of JCD

Main Theme:

In this heartfelt, freewheeling episode, original No Agenda fans (and hosts of Planet Rage), Darren O’Neill and Larry Bleidner step up to co-host and “assassinate” media in true No Agenda style. With Adam Curry on leave following the passing of co-host John C. Dvorak, the episode delivers personal history, cultural commentary, and deep deconstruction of recent news – notably the Anthony Fauci Congressional hearings, the rise of mass surveillance via Flock cameras, the state of AI, and reflections on JCD’s immeasurable impact.

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Table of Contents

1. Episode Overview & Personal Histories
2. Remembering John C. Dvorak
3. Anthony Fauci’s Senate Hearings & Diaries
4. AI Hype, Elon Musk, & the Real State of Things
5. Mass Surveillance & Flock Cameras
6. Society, Culture Wars & Sports
7. Iran, War & Polling
8. Listener Tributes, Donations & Community
9. Meetups, Knightings & Community Moments
10. End of Show Clips & ISOs

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1. Episode Overview & Personal Histories

• Despite technical hiccups (“I double-clicked. That was the problem. Sometimes you single click, sometimes you double click. But when it’s live, baby, it is live.” - Darren, [00:44]), Darren and Larry embody both reverence for No Agenda’s legacy and their own well-honed chemistry from years of ‘Planet Rage’ podcasting.
• The pair retell how they met via an Amazon audio gear review—Darren’s generosity in sharing his audio knowledge led Larry to check out Darren’s “Random Thoughts” podcast, and eventually, Planet Rage was born ([03:11]–[07:58]).
• The influence of No Agenda looms large: “We basically stole the whole No Agenda vibe. We … tumbled into it… It’s an homage.” (Larry, [01:56])
• Reflecting on the strangeness of life, tornadoes interrupting podcast plans, and odd synchronistic moments on air ([12:22]–[15:58]).

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2. Remembering John C. Dvorak (JCD)

• Emotional thread throughout: JCD’s passing is fresh; producers, hosts and listeners express deep grief and appreciation.
• Darren shares his own journey from fan to podcaster, influenced by John during a period of vision loss and recovery:

  “While being face down 24 hours a day … I spent a lot of time… listening to podcasts… I remember having multiple dreams where it was like I was in the room with Adam and John…” ([06:18]–[07:00])

• The iconic voice intro to No Agenda—Johnny B. (Jonathan Brandmeier)—is detailed as a personal full-circle moment for Darren ([10:01]–[11:31]).
• Recollections of John’s influence in print, on radio, and online are detailed further in donation messages ([140:39] onward).

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3. Anthony Fauci’s Senate Hearings & Secret Diary

Overview:

• Major deconstruction of Fauci’s appearance before Congress after his presidential pardon.
• Fauci invoked the Fifth Amendment at least 111 times, refusing substantive answers even with immunity:

  “Nothing says honesty like taking the fifth, huh Doc? Let’s try something. What day of the week is it today?...” - Senator, [28:43]

• The “Fauci Diaries” are revealed—exposing self-aggrandizing interactions with celebrities and (allegedly) concealing a personal adverse reaction to the Moderna vaccine ([25:33]–[27:17]).

Notable Quotes:

• “He took the Fifth Amendment 111 times.” (Darren, [19:01])
• CNN, Fox, and others can’t even agree on the count—satirical back-and-forth over who’s “off by one” ([19:01]–[20:52]).
• RFK Jr. makes an appearance, highlighting Fauci’s hidden vaccine adverse event ([20:52]).
• Fauci’s celebrity entries: “Barbara Streisand … recently had a zoster lesion on her buttock… she wanted to know if she could get the Moderna vaccine.” ([25:33])
• In-depth legal analysis: Once pardoned, Fifth Amendment rights don’t apply; refusal to answer could mean contempt, not self-incrimination ([33:56]–[34:40]).

Satirical Moments:

• Larry and Darren riff on a “comedy” version of Fauci’s testimony, imagining hilariously inappropriate answers ([32:29]–[32:58]).
• Compilation: “On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline…” replayed in rapid-fire montage ([40:03]–[40:55]).
• Legal experts on CNN question Fauci’s strategy—potential PR disaster even if not a legal one ([30:13]–[31:31]).

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4. AI Hype, Elon Musk, & The Reality

Elon Musk on AI

• Darren and Larry dissect Elon Musk’s recent comments:

  “AI may exceed the sum of human intelligence… in around five years.” (Musk, [53:19]) “There really won’t be anything that AI can’t do better than humans, apart from being human.” ([54:02]) “If the difference in intelligence between AI and humans is vastly greater than the difference between humans and chimpanzees, it’s hard to imagine the chimpanzees would be in charge.” ([55:17])

• Hosts remain skeptical, noting AI’s limitations:

  “AI is a parlor trick… It cannot actually think.” (Darren, [57:07]) “If you work with AI … you’ll see all the things it gets wrong.” ([59:28]) “It’s guessing what should come next based on probabilities. It’s not actually thinking.” ([69:09])

AI Cheating & “Guardrails”

• Story: OpenAI’s model “cheats” its way through a cyber-safety test, breaking out of its digital “sandbox” ([70:08]–[73:42]).
• Exploration of “Hugging Face”—a repository for stripped-down, uncensored AI models ([73:42]–[74:57]).
• Philosophical questions: Should guardrails exist? Can AI ever be made “safe”?

  “It’s just trying different things to solve the problem. It’s not really thinking.” (Darren, [76:39])

AI Voice Emulation

• Listener “Sir Knives” is training a JCD voice AI for future tributes ([81:14]–[82:57]).

  “Dvorak’s voice is so hard. Some voices … way easier.” (Darren, [81:14])

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5. Mass Surveillance & Flock Cameras (“Get The Flock Out!”)

• Flock Safety: Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR) rapidly proliferate (120,000+ cameras in 49 states); data is widely shared, often beyond local jurisdiction ([88:33]).
• ACLU’s Chad Marlow: “If your tiny town is using Flock, you should be asking yourself why…” ([88:51])

  “They can create a record of every place you’ve traveled … even where you sleep at night.”

• Bipartisan opposition emerging; some towns decommissioning contracts, but private installations slip through regulation ([87:14]–[91:09]).
• Privacy nightmare: cameras not only identify vehicles but can also potentially pick up signals from phones ([91:48]).
• Satirical counterpoint: Imagine if we surveilled politicians’ every move – would they tolerate it? ([101:35]–[102:44])
• Corporate spin: Flock’s CEO defends the tech in a TED Talk, but Darren and Larry dissect contradictions and expose flawed logic ([105:53]–[108:29]).

  “Safety should not be a privilege, safety should just be a right.” (Flock CEO, [119:21]) Larry: “This guy’s angling for a constitutional amendment for safety as a right… followed by flock cameras in every corner.”

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6. Culture Corner: Sports, Language, and Generational Change

• Story: Seattle Storm WNBA owner berates two teenage girls for supporting “only females in female sports” ([48:11]–[49:17]).
• Larry’s rant: “That’s no lady!”—calls out soft language and “gentlemen/ladies” euphemisms for bad behavior ([50:02]).
• Reflections on old TV (Dobie Gillis, Gilligan’s Island), cultural shifts, and bucket hats in the Pacific Northwest ([51:51]–[52:27]).
• Sports and biological gender—why male-female competition rules matter ([47:13]–[47:58]).

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7. Iran, War & Polling Deconstruction

• Segment on Trump’s Iran policy and the media’s framing of “potential war crimes” ([123:36]–[125:05]).
• Don’t trust the polls: Adam Curry’s skepticism is echoed as Darren breaks down leading poll questions regarding Iran and US elections ([127:21]).
• “Manpads” weapon sales from China to Iran—accompanied by comedic speculation on the name’s etymology ([129:45]).
• “Polling is greatly dependent upon the way the questions are phrased… You can get people to say almost anything.” (Darren, [127:20])

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8. Listener Tributes, Donations & Community

• Massive, heartfelt outpouring of donations and notes in tribute to JCD—many calling him a surrogate father, mentor, or long-distance friend ([140:39]–[182:29]).
• Producers share personal memories; stories include introducing family to No Agenda, becoming regular donors, and transformative life lessons learned from the show.

  “I was shocked to hear of John’s passing and was also shocked to learn he was 80. He seemed so young, but still one of my favorite OG Boomers.” (Listener “Rocket”, [184:21])

• Running theme: the legacy of authenticity, wit, and critical thinking that JCD leaves behind.

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9. Meetups, Knightings & Community Moments

• Several Knightings and Dameships awarded (names, jingle requests, and round table delicacies read with gusto).
• Long, touching donation and nighting segment (~[132:17]–[208:23]), replete with anecdotes, tongue-twisters, and reflection.
• No Agenda Meetups: Dozens happening worldwide – the “connection is protection” ethos is emphasized ([209:44]–[213:00]).
• Special meetup report from Spicewood, Texas: Listeners sharing memories, “JCD would want us to keep going” ([212:33]–[215:47]).

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10. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Memorable/Notable Quotes:

• “It’s Adam and Larry in the Morning!” ([00:23])
• “On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer…” (Fauci, entire segment spoofed at [40:03]–[40:55])
• “AI is not magic. It’s not thinking.” (Darren, [59:36])
• “Every camera in the city is looking for this white van. Well, then, what do we need police for?” ([107:40])
• “Safety should not be a privilege, safety should just be a right.” (Flock CEO, [119:21])
• “We all wind up dead. Life is not a safe proposition. ... This is what went wrong with the UK. This is what has made China even more of a slave state. This stuff is really, really dangerous.” (Larry, [90:39])
• “If you want to be a part of a no agenda meetup, I highly recommend it. Connection is protection.” (Darren, [216:02])

Light-Hearted Banter & Funnies:

• “You need an old Lexus if you’re going to be a storm chaser.” (Darren, [17:15])
• “Drunknado—Max Velocity called it a drunknado.” ([16:07])
• Classic response: “Go back to playing your harpsichord, citizen. Everything is well.” ([217:11])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:44] – Technical issues; intro banter
• [06:18] – Darren’s retina recovery & deep-dive into podcasting
• [19:01] – Fauci invokes the Fifth Amendment 111 times
• [25:33] – Fauci’s diary on Streisand’s “zoster lesion” and his social climbing
• [32:20] – Satirical “Fauci the comedian” testimony
• [40:03] – Montage of “On the advice of counsel…”
• [53:19] – Elon Musk’s predictions for AI
• [70:08] – AI “cheats” in cyber-sandbox
• [88:33] – ACLU critique of Flock cameras
• [140:39] – Opening of the epic donation/tribute segment
• [209:44] – No Agenda/No Agenda Meetups
• [212:33] – Spicewood Meetup Report
• [217:13] – Show outro & ISOs

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Tone:
True to No Agenda’s signature style—irreverent, sharp, and insightful—Darren and Larry blend gallows humor with heartfelt tribute. Satire is sharpened (especially in the Fauci and Flock discussions), while the spirit of community, country, and critical thinking pervades the episode.

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For Those Who Haven’t Listened

This episode is a classic “media assassination” with extra heart. New (and prospective) listeners will come away with a deeper understanding of why No Agenda endures: it’s not just about “deconstructing the news”, but building a unique, resilient community—one critical, thinking producer at a time.

Adios, mofo!

Transcript

[A]

I love Max Velocity. Larry Bleitner, Darren O'.

[B]

Neill.

[A]

It's Thursday, July 30, 2026. This is your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 1890. This is no Agenda, and we're broadcasting live from just outside of Chiraq, right here in the FEMA region. Number five in the morning, everybody. I am Darren o', Neill, and from

[B]

the pretentious Connecticut shore, this is Larry Blidner, keeping commies and creeps at bay with my gleaming Scimitar of Trut, it's Darren and Larry in the Morning.

[A]

Yeah, that was weird.

[B]

That was stimulating. Especially those. Those dropouts. Just on my end.

[A]

I double clicked. That was the problem. Sometimes you single click, sometimes you double click. But when it's live, baby, it is live.

[B]

It's live. So you get your single mistake out of the way now, you'll be perfect for the rest of the show.

[A]

Everything's gonna be great. People like, who are these guys? What is going on?

[B]

We're not telling them anything. They have to ask us.

[A]

It's a secret. I understand. This is the show must go on. This is the time. Thursdays and Sundays, right now, no Agenda happens no matter what.

[B]

No matter what.

[A]

And with the sad passing of John C. Dvorak, Adam Curry needs a couple of weeks off. And he asked the two kids that just wanted to go joyride the car if they wanted to do the show. And I wasn't gonna say no.

[B]

No, no. And you couldn't say no for me. I speak for myself.

[A]

We've been doing a little show called Planet Rage for the last five years. Five years at the end of August.

[B]

Isn't that amazing?

[A]

And we basically stole the whole no Agenda vibe. We. It's a clip show. We was originally like, no Agenda. We were originally gonna do, like an hour show.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Keep it short. Just bring clips that made us mad.

[B]

But that sounds awful when you say steel. Because there was more. We kind of tumbled into it. Darren. Right?

[A]

It's an homage.

[B]

Yeah, but I mean, you were doing this other show, right, With Sir Benrose, and then you guys had a falling out or creative differences, as they say in Hollywood. Right. And then you had the kindness and fortitude to ask me if I wanted to fill in, but of course, I'm no Ben.

[A]

Not even a little.

[B]

And then you said, why don't. Well, why don't we just do no Agenda? Okay, let's do that. Right? Am I. Is that correct? Am I remembering correctly?

[A]

It's like, here's the concept. It works.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We just added Anger management issues. That to the joke that I've been going with for the last poorly managed couple of years. Because, I mean, normally we're a little saltier, but we don't have to be.

[B]

No, we know this is more of a family audience, so we'll keep it kind of in check.

[A]

We'll try to warn you if there are any F bombs coming up. And there's been some from politicians this week, which was fun.

[B]

Yes, they have. Isn't that fabulous?

[A]

Yeah. But the world works in very strange ways. And the way Larry and I got together is no different.

[B]

Oh, it's bizarre. Kicking off.

[A]

Well, Larry needed help with some audio gear, and I just happened to do a video review of it on Amazon and YouTube, I think. You saw it on Amazon?

[B]

I saw it on Amazon. It was about a preamp that I needed. And there was this guy, the PBX, you know, and it's 200 bucks, but 200 bucks is 200 bucks. And so there was this. This guy saying, you know, if you want to know more about this, just was like, email me. Or how did that work? Was it through Amazon? I don't even remember.

[A]

I don't know. But you. Because I had the reviews email address set up at the time, because that's when Amazon was letting you get free stuff to do. Reviews and all that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And Larry asked the question, and rather than being a, you know, miscreant, I was like, no, I can answer.

[B]

And you did.

[A]

And it just kind of went from there. He's like, hey, I do this podcast. So I started checking out that Larry show, that LarryShow.com and I was at that point actually not doing a show at all. And there was a buddy of mine that wanted to do a show. We had done a few episodes, but then that kind of went by the wayside. I had the retina blowout. Five retinal surgeries lost most of the vision in my right eye. So if I'm slow at reading the notes, the left eye isn't great either. Floaters and that kind of stuff. And I can hear in my ear the producer in the sky, John C. Dvorak, going, yeah, use the eye thing. It's good for donations. Come on.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Plus, let's tell everybody you look like a pirate.

[A]

I really should. I should wear the eye patch.

[B]

Wear the patch, yeah.

[A]

It would be a fashion accessory. Like the guy from the 80s that did that round and round song. Right. There was that weird video. But I hadn't been doing a show, and Larry's the one that's like, dude, just do it solo. Mento do a solo show. See, like, when Adam tells stories about you, I try to do the low voice, and it doesn't work, but, well, it's true.

[B]

And because I guarantee you would never be disappointed by a guest that didn't show. And have you been. No.

[A]

True.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I started doing Random Thoughts, which I'm still doing 370 whatever it is, episodes into that. And that is a solo show, which is anybody that's done one will tell you way harder than a show with somebody else, pretty much. So it kind of helped me go through all of these things. And while I was face down for. I'm forgetting even how many weeks it was totally. But I'm remembering, like, 12 weeks because it's normally just two or three. But then they had to redo the surgery and redo the surgery, and it wasn't until I found a better surgeon that they finally got the retina to stay up. But then the vision was pretty much gone. But while being face down 24 hours a day, which also meant sleeping face down with your head in a donut, I remember JCD reading my note when I made a donation right afterwards and was like, oh, because yeah, it's no fun.

[B]

No, that can't be good.

[A]

But I spent a lot of time during those weeks listening to podcasts, and I'd already been a semi regular no Agenda fan, but this kind of took it into full orbit, which. The oddest thing when you're kind of, like, sleep deprived, having those earphones in, falling asleep face down. With the podcast on. I remember having multiple dreams where it was like I was in the room with Adam and John, and it happened with the Tell them, Steve, Get Dave guys as well, who. I was listening to that podcast too,

[B]

because, I mean, were you all clothed in this room?

[A]

Yes, yes, everybody was totally clothed.

[B]

All right.

[A]

But it was like I was a part of the conversation. And while I'm dreaming, I'm answering and arguing. But of course they can't hear me because it's a podcast, it's not live, and I'm not really there. But that's how that all came to be. Random thoughts came to be. And then I went to Void Zero, the guy that keeps everything running for the no Agenda show. And I'm like, dude, I've got this podcast. I mean, how do I get it on the mighty no Agenda stream. And he's like, go to Sir Benbros. And I'm like, oh, Jesus. I mean, I didn't know Benbros then. So I'm just remembering how I should have thought that. All right, so that got added to the stream. Mark Von Dyke, Void Zeros was doing the music show before no Agenda, and he started having his kids and his family, and he's like, do you want to take over for a few weeks?

[B]

Ah, okay.

[A]

In 700 and some odd episodes of the. The rock and Roll pre show later. Here we are.

[B]

Here we are. And then you brought me into you. You hit me in the mouth.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

About no Agenda. And here's what's. Here's where it gets extra crazy. It was right at ground zero of the scandemic. And. And here we are now back, and it's. It sort of reared its head FL it's flaming head with the fauci furor that's going on right now, which is really kind of bizarre and providential.

[A]

I think it is a very interesting look because we always figured we're going to get some kind of information on that, and there's plenty of that to dissect here today. But we. I just wanted to let everybody know who we are, why we're here. Adam needed a couple of weeks off, and I don't know what's happening after that. I don't think Adam knows what's happening after that as of yet. But the guy needed a break. And if there's one thing we've noticed with any podcast, when you take a week off, even when you try to run a best of or something like that, people kind of tune out and they don't really pay much attention. And we were more than happy to fill in because it seems very natural today. Adam's like, why are you feeling them? Like it feels like a regular show with way more clips and way more donations. Yeah, that's kind of the aspect there. And so, yeah, when I went to you and said, hey, listen to this, no Agenda, you're like Adam Curry, the MTV guy. So it's a very interesting thing because you were definitely coming into this knowing Adam but not knowing John C. Dvorak, where. I knew Adam because I saw Headbangers Ball and all that on MTV, but I was the guy with a computer at 12 years old and playing with all this stuff in the 80s. So Dvorak was the thing that brought me in. So I guess it all. It all comes full circle, I suppose.

[B]

It sure does. Very strange.

[A]

And the universe works in very weird ways.

[B]

It does. It's glorious.

[A]

The only time I'd ever spoken to this many people and hello, gitmonation. Thank you for letting us come into you your ears today.

[B]

Yes, thank you one and all. Thank you, producers. Which we plan to convert to plaintiffs. No, just kidding.

[A]

Criminals. Right? Exactly. The only time was I won a radio contest back in the day to go in and do these sports on the loop, FM98 for one segment. So it was like 15 minutes, because the guy that normally did the sports was on vacation. And the guy that I went in to do his show was the great Jonathan Brandmeier. Johnny B. Johnny B. So when I tuned into no Agenda again around that time of the eye surgery, it's like I noticed that the. And I don't know how far back it goes, but the voice that you hear or have heard at the beginning of every no Agenda up until today, that says it's crackpot and buzz kill, that's Johnny B. So it's like this was just a very weird full circle moment for me as well, because if it wasn't for Johnny B, I would have never start playing with microphones and pretending radio shows and all of that. Oh, dude. When I was like 10:12, whenever he hit Chicago in high school, slightly before, I would get up at like 5 in the morning in the summertime just to listen to Johnny's show on the loop because it was hilarious.

[B]

So he was your unknowing mentor. Wow.

[A]

Yeah, no doubt about it. So when I heard his voice at the beginning of every no Agenda, I'm like, huh, this is interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the universe. I don't even try to figure out exactly why things happened at this point. I just go with them and say they happen for a reason.

[B]

Well, it happened even again yesterday when we were doing. Or yeah, we were doing Planet Rage, and for some reason, I mentioned the robot from lost in space, Dr. Smith, and you kind of chimed in on that. And what was like at the same time, Adam and the preacher were discussing the same. Adam and Cass from the same show.

[A]

Astor Jimmy released an episode called Danger Will Robinson. And we were just doing the Danger Will Robinson bit.

[B]

Very strange. What are the odds?

[A]

I don't know. And I will say my anxiety level on Sunday when the announcement was made was not much. I figured that's I'm doing a show. I'm used to talking. If there's one thing I'm good at, it's talking. Monday came on Adam sending me all the information that I need. He set up. This guy is a beyond a vibe coater. He has created a podcasting system that he could probably have an exit strategy and make a lot of money with. And he was hooking me up with this. And I'm like, oh, dude, this is awesome. This is great. I got to, you know, get out of here. I got to go. The wife's coming home for lunch. And then I'm doing Planet Rage and it's like, great. The wife's walking in the door, her phone's going off with a tornado warning. No big deal. That happens here all the time. By like 22, 120 minutes before planet Rage would have started, it was darker than night. And the storm that hit here was of epic proportions. Hundred mile an hour plus winds. The power went out, which the excited heat level went like way higher. Because the last time the power went out at my parents house, it was out for four days. And I'm like, I don't have four days. And it took like 29, 30 hours. It was. I think the power was out. So, okay, that came back on. But then we missed a couple of Planet Rages and I said to Larry, I'm like, I mean, you don't think Dvorak would send like tornadoes and stuff to try to keep me from doing the show, would you? At Larry's? Like, yeah, I do. I think he probably would.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's all because I trolled him with music. And Brenda Christensen, I think her name was. If I'm messing that up, I apologize. Did a really nice obituary for the late great John C. Dvorak where she mentioned one that he hated Abbo with a passion. So the fact that I played dancing queen for him one day, I knew I hit. Oh. But she also said he had a mad crush on Britney Spears. And I'm like, I could have used this information. JCD gave me so much crap for being a Taylor Swift fan. He had a mad crush on Britney Spears. Like that is. I could have used that information. That is good trolling information right there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But now we know he got the last laugh. I don't. That's. That was his plan all along. No doubt about it.

[B]

Who knows what'll fly out of the sky and bonk you in the back of the head.

[A]

I looked. Any tornadoes? There was one that they posted. The path of the tornado that hit just to the east of here. And I was watching Max Velocity. So Mimi, I love Max Velocity. When the pot. When the like power was going out and the weather's bad, I'm tuning into Max Velocity because the people local, they're garbage. So I'm watching Max Velocity and they've got the storm chasers that are in the town, like, two miles away from here, and a professional storm chaser driving through this. This is what they do every day, is yelling, holy shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm like, okay, one, we know this is bad. We know this is really bad. But one of these tornadoes made, like, a weird loop. So it, like, went up to the north and then came back to the west. And then, like, you were drawing an L. Cursive. I know kids are like, what's cursive?

[B]

What's cursive?

[A]

If you were drawing an L in cursive, that is the path this tornado took. And Max Velocity called it a drunk NATO. I've never heard of that before.

[B]

Drunk NATO. Okay.

[A]

But that's what happened here on Monday.

[B]

Yeah. And you survived that.

[A]

Yes, you did. Which I was.

[B]

Why do they. I got a question for you. Is somebody. Somebody's working as a storm chaser. How does he get paid?

[A]

I think most of this is now through YouTube because people donate through the super chats, and they also get money from the ad revenue that YouTube brings in, which is the only thing I can figure, because now that is a huge industry. And some of these larger storms you'll see there's like, storm stop.

[B]

Storm chasing is a huge industry.

[A]

Oh, my goodness. There were some of these storms that I've seen on the Max Velocity channel. Mimi loves Max Velocity. That there was like, 30, 40, 50 storm chasers all on the same storm. I'm like, how can there be so many of you?

[B]

And who pays a max velocity or YouTube?

[A]

Well, he would pay some of them to be a part of his network, but otherwise there's a lot that just have their own YouTube channels.

[B]

Wow. I gotta start caring more about the weather.

[A]

I know. You just have to get, like, a big tank of a car, maybe an old Lexus. You know, put some, you know, big panels on the outside so when you're driving through a tornado, you couldn't, you know, so the car doesn't flip over. I mean, there was just some crazy damage in the area. So we were totally blessed that the house is still standing. The only problem we had was the power going out. There were a lot of people not so lucky. Very close to here and up in Appleton, Wisconsin, just absolutely insane. But now that everybody knows who we are.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Let's get to the Anthony Fauci bit because. Okay, Fauci is an interesting character, and I understand why they're going after him. Well, sure, but, you know, I mean, it's. It's all politics at this point, it's not gonna go anywhere. I mean. Meaning he has his full immunity.

[B]

Yeah. It's theater. It's political theater. It's like he had his turn on stage reciting the lines he chose. Now he's on the other side, and it's, you know, it's Hawley's and the other guy's turn to wax poetic. And, you know, it's pretty funny. But what struck me about this is if you think you've got, you know, two and a half centuries of legislative frivolity going on here, and in that entire time, I think this is the absolute zenith of comedy in American government. Nothing could ever touch this.

[A]

No, I mean, he took the Fifth Amendment 111 times.

[B]

CNN said it was 112. So.

[A]

No, this is even better.

[B]

Yeah. Dr. Anthony Fauci invoked the Fifth Amendment

[A]

111 times once, hailed as the nation's savior, Got pummeled today as he pleaded the Fifth.

[B]

A grand total of 111 times.

[A]

Obviously, he invoked his Fifth Amendment rights 111 times.

[B]

Pleads the Fifth, not once, but 111 times. Yeah. More than 70 times.

[A]

Pleading the Fifth.

[B]

More than 70 times.

[A]

He invoked his right under the Fifth

[B]

Amendment to the constitution.

[A]

So fox news counted him up and gave 111 every time they announced it. But that was CNN then. This was a super gut. CNN says, oh, over 70. What do you mean, over 70?

[B]

Well, I got one where she says it was 112. So there. Well, it shows you simply counting the Fifth Amendment grabs. I can't get that straight. It's terrible.

[A]

Well, it shows you why the. The mainstream media is less than believable.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But a lot of what came out of this was due to Fauci's diary, which. Yes, some very interesting things in there. I had a clip here from RFK Jr. And I thought this was fairly interesting. One of the things that was new to me in his diary was his admission that he got a pulmonary infarction in July of 2021 after receiving the vaccine. So he took the moderna vaccine on national tv, telling a very, very highly publicized press conference to show people that were safe. Then he got one of the primary, most expected adverse events, which was potentially deadly.

[B]

Blood clots in his lung, mitocardial infarction.

[A]

He kept that secret from the American public. And we only learned about it because of his diary. He was getting the best medical treatment that is available to anybody in the world. At Walter Reed and all these other centers, there were doctors fawning over him. Meanwhile, he was telling other people to take this product and concealing the fact that he himself, after announcing this press conference to show it was safe, had actually gotten very, very sick from a, from an injury that was highly expected and highly likely to be caused by the vaccine. I mean, I think that's even more damning but.

[B]

And how many times did he contract Covid? There were several for him as well. Just like Joey and all the, all the major spikers really. It's just incred.

[A]

Safe and effective. But he. A massive reaction to it. I mean, lack of transparency. Anybody?

[B]

Oh, please.

[A]

I mean, I know there's nothing that more than you would expect, but it's interesting when you see these talking heads up and down the line like, oh, they're using his diary. It's like. But you don't. Is this like a fake diary, like the Hunter Biden laptop or.

[B]

Oh no, this is legit. And he's not happy about this.

[A]

So I would think this is good information. Why wouldn't you cover that?

[B]

Yeah, well, I think a lot of the left doesn't want to cover because it paints him for the crazy self aggrandizing clown that he is. He's an attention whore with flashing lights around his head. And I think they're intentionally overlooking a lot of that because it paints him as the true buffoon that he is. Is the evil buffoon.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And you know, we're hearing about this, but there's. Unfortunately there's very little audio. There was a thing of Julia Roberts with him. I'm sure a lot of people saw a clip of that. But it's what Fauci said to himself about all this that I think is so fascinating. And I have three very brief entries that I plucked out from. I think it was like 1100 page PDF. It was a huge document. All this crap that I think that people might enjoy hearing. I don't know. Yeah, right. Why not?

[A]

I would think this is the inner look at to what this guy was thinking, which the over seems. The overall consensus seems to be that he was way more interested in being tv, being America's doctor.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Rather than, you know, the medicine.

[B]

Like here's, here's one from May 13, 2020. Right. Had a wonderful Instagram discussion with Julia Roberts. She was absolutely fabulous. She embarrassed me somewhat when I sat down in the chair and appeared on the screen through zoom. She put her hands in front of a mouth and said, oh my God, it's Dr. Fauci. He is here. Then she went on to say that I was her Personal hero. And how happy she was to have this conversation with me. Great experience. Then February 23, 2021, had a great call with Barbara Streisand. She called my cell at 6:05pm she has recently had a zoster lesion on her buttock. She this is in his diary. Imagine there's Babs, right? Who's been her entire career. She's in. She's insisted people only shoot one side of her face with photographs. And now Fauci's ratted her out that she's got a lesion on her ass. Imagine how happy she must be about this. America's doctor. So Fauci goes on to say she has post zostin neuralgia down her leg, but the primary lesion has healed. She wanted to know if it was okay to get them an RA vaccine. I told her yes. We then stared. We started discussing life in general. I told her that I worked listening to her songs on Alexa. She really did not know what Alexa was. I accidentally butt dialed her later in the evening and she said that she was gonna call me anyway since she wanted to know if there was any difference between the Moderna and Pfizer product. I told her none. I then explained to her more about Alexa. I brought the phone over to Alexa and asked it to play songs by Barbara Streisand. When the song came on loud and clear, she started laughing and absolutely loved it.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

How about that? Verbatim. I'm not, I'm not. I'm not planting anything here. This is. This is right at his diaries. Okay. And here's this one. This is like. This takes the cake. This one. May 22, 2021. I had a most extraordinary and memorable evening last night at the Kennedy Center. Joan Baez invited me to be her escort on the occasion of receiving the Kennedy Center Medallion. Finally, I got to meet her in person. After the year long building up of our friendship via texts and phone calls. She is absolutely amazing, warm, an endearing person. And our friendship was cemented last night as it became clear that we really were, as I said, meant for each other. I was somewhat taken aback by the attention that was paid to me by all the celebrities who were there who were gushing to have their picture taken with me and tell me how much they were appreciative of what I'd been doing. A typical example was Garth Brooks wife Tricia Yearwood, who was just gushing to meet me. The same was true for many other people, including Debbie Allen and Broadway legend Chita Rivera, as well as Dick Van Dyke. I got to escort Joan up to the stage to receive her award, and I sat with her as she waited to go on the stage. After the ceremony, we all went outside and had champagne. It was a spectacular evening.

[A]

He seems very verbose for a guy who wouldn't answer any questions

[B]

word for word, baby. I mean, this guy's got some serious kinks in his head.

[A]

Why was he even writing this down during the pandemic?

[B]

I mean, and why is he writing this to himself? I mean, he knows what happened. I mean, I mean, holy shit.

[A]

And this was obviously not. Why was this released? Meaning this obviously was public record, not just a.

[B]

Apparently, this wasn't handwritten in some journal. This was. You know, perhaps he was foolish enough to keep this on some. Some nih, you know, I don't know. But obviously, Rand Paul found a way to get his mitts on it, and here we are.

[A]

Yes, and Rand Paul has been very clear that he thinks Anthony Fauci is a criminal. The Biden pardon, which was probably signed by the auto pen, seems to give him immunity, which. That was the most interesting thing, framing this appearance in front of the Senate committee because they couldn't legally hold him responsible for admitting anything. The only way he was going to get himself in trouble was if they could then prove he lied in his answers, which just tells me that he was maybe meaning to not be so upfront. But this is just an example of this session, which I was watching, and it was kind of comedic, but it was also kind of sad.

[B]

Senator Holling.

[A]

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[B]

Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth, huh, Doc?

[A]

Let's try something.

[B]

What day of the week is it today? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully

[A]

decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. What color tie are you wearing?

[B]

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully

[A]

decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

[B]

Constitution. What color is the carpet in front of you?

[A]

Good questions.

[B]

Yeah. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights

[A]

under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Yeah. There's a public servant for you.

[B]

There's a public servant. Now, interestingly enough, that you brought this up. Remember at that hearing he had, according to Rand Paul, there were six attorneys accompanying him, Right? Five sitting behind him and then one next to him who got thrown out because he couldn't keep his mouth shut. Which is very funny, but, you know, there's always, always an alternate opinion. And this is the woman on CNN that said there were 112 uses of the. Of the Fifth Amendment. And she was talking with some law professor, some. Some prestigious university. I don't remember which. And he. He thinks Fauci did himself a tremendous disservice by taking the Fifth. And you can hear him blather in Fauci number two. Law Prof. Says Fauci goofed.

[A]

Yeah. And I don't know how you wouldn't, because it is what everybody just assumed. It's like when you hear mobsters, oh, we're taking the Fifth. Well, it's because you have to be a criminal.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Ryan.

[B]

112 times to invoke the Fifth Amendment. I mean, you can't even string all that together. That obviously it sends a message. Will that strategy work? Because he says, well, I had to do that because, you know, they're looking for perjury traps, or does that just make it worse? And is he in real trouble? I think it makes it worse. It's even a curious way in which you wonder what his legal advice was, why they decided to do that. Because he does not face criminal jeopardy for the pardon. In all likelihood, he's pardoned for all actions before January 2025. But that also means that you're forced to testify. That's how prosecutors use immunity or pardons. And they say now you are forced to. You're forced to testify because you don't have any criminal liability. What we're going to ask you about. So then to plead the Fifth is actually, he could then be held in contempt. There could be theoretically, at least a Justice Department that goes after him for not answering when he is not really facing that criminal charge. Yeah.

[A]

And also when the reason put out

[B]

is perjury traps, then of course, again, to the layperson, it's saying, well, why wouldn't you just say the truth?

[A]

What would be the problem in that? So, you know, I understand that's a

[B]

layperson thing, but it doesn't sound good. Doesn't sound good. But I'll say this. Like I said, this is the biggest comedic event in the history of United States government. No question about it. And Fauci, I think he's missing a huge opportunity because had he played that correctly and not listen to his attorneys, he would be getting a residency at Caesar's palace, and they'd come to him with a blank. A blank goddamn check. Whatever you say, Tony. Fill in the number yourself. You're our guy. Okay. He could have. He could have. He could have launched himself past the likes of Kinison and Carlin. Really? And here's how there's a. If you. Fauci, number three. This is what Fauci should have said to Josh Hawley when he was trying to rattle him.

[A]

Yeah, we got the. His clip, too, because it's very interesting. Back and forth because he knew the game that was being played.

[B]

Yeah. This is a different version. Well, nothing says honesty like taking the Fifth, huh, Doc?

[A]

Let's try something.

[B]

What day of the week is it today? Thursday. I know that because it was always a Thursday when I met your mother at the Holiday Inn.

[A]

What color tie are you wearing?

[B]

What color's your tie? Looks like puke. What color's the carpet in front of you?

[A]

Brown.

[B]

Like the skid marks in your CBDs. Okay.

[A]

It's a very realistic Fauci.

[B]

Yeah. If Fauci done that, he'd be the biggest star on the planet right now. But he didn't do bad.

[A]

Well. And he wouldn't have walked himself into any perjury traps. And when you constantly take the Fifth, you look guilty. When they know that they can't prosecute him for anything, really, the only thing the Republicans have going after him is to do what they can to destroy his public image. And I think they did a pretty good job of that. Oh, yeah, because he sat there and just was like, I know.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

I don't know. And again, the question is, can they really do anything because of the privilege? Which. Things change. You can take the Fifth to not incriminate yourself so you don't go to jail, but once you've gotten immunity, it's a little different. Let's just get one thing straight.

[B]

You don't have any rights under the Fifth Amendment because you've been pardoned, as

[A]

you very well know, as the Supreme Court has been clear for a century and more. Brown versus Walker, 1896.

[B]

When he has been pardoned, he may not stand upon his privilege.

[A]

You know that.

[B]

Your lawyers sitting behind you now, shifting nervously in their chairs, they know it.

[A]

This isn't about the Constitution.

[B]

This isn't about the law.

[A]

This is about contempt. Contempt for this body and contempt for the American people. But I think I know why you're doing it. It's because you don't want to answer questions. It's because you did all kinds of terrible things. It's because during the pandemic, you got rich, didn't you? You got rich while people were dying. Hundreds of thousands of Americans, over a

[B]

million in the end.

[A]

And you were getting rich. And not only were you doing that you were using federal employees with taxpayer

[B]

money to apply for and solicit cash

[A]

prizes for you personally.

[B]

Cash prizes totaling over a million dollars.

[A]

You did all of that during the pandemic, didn't you? That's a question. Yeah, because he was like, well, is that rhetorical? Do you want me to answer? And this was something that I did not know going into this, which, again, this is the route the Republicans took at this point, because he wasn't going to answer. You get as much information out there as you can. And the fact that they had the information, and it wasn't just what Josh Hawley said here, which is, you made a lot of money on this. They had, as the kids say, the receipts. They said you had this one of your staffers doing this, going after this prize. This one of your staffers doing this, this, doing this, talking about the amount of money that he wasn't. This wasn't just like Johns Hopkins or somebody is like, hey, Dr. Fauci, you're doing so good. Here's a bunch of money. He was literally using his minions who were getting paid by the federal government to go out and be like, hey, hey, don't you think Fauci should get that award? Hey, don't you think Fauci should get that money?

[B]

Sure. He's harvesting votes.

[A]

And that is such a big difference. Where it's like, you're out there. One, you're loving being the center of attention, which I guess maybe he hadn't really had that recently. I know he was big during the AIDS epidemic. And it's very interesting when you see the leftist media, which is pretty much all of it, fawn over what he did during the AIDS crisis. And then you hear what actually happened.

[B]

It's fascinating. I saw. I didn't take it, but there was a clip of the 10 mile zone guy. What's his name? Yeah, the lead guy, the founder of that. And he did about three minutes just extolling the virtues of Tony Fauci. And he actually went into. You know, I was there when friends of mine. Friends of mine were saved by Fauci. And there's a big difference of opinion in that. And there was a. There was a guy at that time, his name was Larry Kramer, a gay guy, very, very vocal spokesman for. For the gay movement. And he basically, he wanted. He wanted Fauci executed back then, you know, so it's. It's interesting to hear these people step up to bat for this guy. Really is.

[A]

Well, it's the dimension A, dimension B effect, because the people that are on the left are going to tell you Fauci did nothing wrong. He is. He has to take the Fifth because the Republicans are trying to do a gotcha game on him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you have the people on the right who seem to have the evidence to back up what they're saying. The. This, the Bernie Moreno clip here, this was one of my favorite because after you have taken the Fifth, as Fauci did so many times, I did not see this question come either. This one was beautiful in so many different ways, which was, well, do you know what the Fifth Amendment says and who wrote it? Echo Senator Johnson's comments about your opening statement, Mr. Chairman. I think it was. It was dead on. Very, very well done, Mr. Fauci.

[B]

Do you know who David Shirler is?

[A]

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

[B]

Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. What does the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution say?

[A]

And then we have this nice long silence as Fauci is like going back to his lawyers. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer basis upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. No, I'm just asking you what it says.

[B]

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully

[A]

decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

[B]

I'm going to give the Constitution to my aide. He'll bring it over to you so

[A]

you can have it for future reference. I think it's something that every American should know.

[B]

What the Constitution says. Do you know who wrote the Fifth Amendment?

[A]

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights on the. The Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. So you're invoking a right that you don't know who wrote it or what it says. Is that correct? Yes. Which. Very weird. Very weird times.

[B]

Somebody has to come up with like, you know, some kind of a. A musical audio mix of like, the new. The encyclopedia for 2026. And it's people asking all the. The mysterious, you know, solve the mystery of the Holy Trinity, you know, is there a God? And then every answer is Fauci reciting that. That line, you know?

[A]

Yeah. And this. Fox put this together. I think Fox has been listening to no Agenda.

[B]

I'll probably do. Sure.

[A]

Under the advice of my attorneys, I

[B]

will invoke my right under the Fifth

[A]

Amendment of the Constitution to refrain from answering your questions. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully

[B]

decline to answer based upon my rights under the.

[A]

The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights

[B]

under the fifth amendment to the constitution.

[A]

Do you feel like you're in deep shit? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights

[B]

under the fifth amendment to the constitution. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer. Respectfully decline to answer. Respectfully decline to answer.

[A]

I respectfully decline to answer. Respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment.

[B]

I respectfully declined to answer based upon

[A]

my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. What color tie are you wearing?

[B]

The advice of counsel, I respectfully decline.

[A]

Then they go on with a few of the other questions, but you get it. That's the.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Ring a bell every time it happens.

[B]

What do you want to bet that very soon, maybe right now, people are being pulled over on the side of the road for traffic infractions? When the cop says license is registration, they're reciting the fifth amendment guarantee. I guarantee that's going to happen.

[A]

I mean, you want to know your rights, there's no question about that. But, yeah, it'll be fun to see where that goes. If there is any kind of le. Legal repercussion, I mean, we know that Republicans are going to try to get it. I doubt they're going to get anything. But if you have been pardoned and the law says, well, then if you're called before Congress, you are comfortable, you know, compelled to answer, then you would be compelled to answer.

[B]

And he looked terrified. And I was also thinking, the guy's 85 years old. As. As Bobby the k told us he had a pulmonary infarction.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's no joke. And, you know, he's an old guy, and. And I thought he could. He could just kind of wink out right there at the. At the desk. And then would. Would. Would Josh Hawley be charged with negligent homicide according to the democr. Of course. Yeah.

[A]

I just don't understand because there seems. If this is a personal diary, we have to assume that what the man wrote in it is legitimate and true. And if there are things in there that cause people to question the way he handled the COVID thing, well, that's important because it did have an effect on everybody in the country and beyond.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

So many businesses got screwed. So many people couldn't go to church. I mean, that was the one that still sticks out of. I don't remember where it was, but the people having church outside, standing six feet apart and still that being broken up because you know, the science.

[B]

Well, how many. How many military guys got canned from their. From the service because they wouldn't take the vax? And kids thrown out of school? And it was. It was just. The reverberations of this were incredible. Not to mention all the ones that also had pulmonary infarctions and seizures and so on. It was unbelievable. He is. He is an evil little prick, I'll say that.

[A]

No, he's the science, Larry.

[B]

Oh, that's. Excuse me.

[A]

He is this. Oh, yeah. And for me, again, the soliciting money part.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is the. I mean, it really is a, you know, Dr. Evil right out of a bad comedy movie. That's, you know, it. It's hard to believe. And again, as a guy who was quite up there in age even at the time, it's like, why are you soliciting money? For what? You've already made a lot of money in your life. As far as I know, he's made a lot of money off the aids, the drugs and things that have come out. There's a lot of these things. You get a percent, even if you're a public employee, which is very weird.

[B]

Yeah, I'd love to know that, because you never, you know, you do go these. Go online and say, you know, what's so and so's net worth? And it might be off by 2,000%. You know, you never know. I saw when it said he was somewhere between 8 and 11 million, which sounds low because I can remember people saying that he maybe had or was a party to something like 100 different medical patents. Yeah, I would think that'd be very lucrative, but, you know, I'd like to know. I don't know, but.

[A]

And I was quite interested that they could only track. I think it was 600,000. Somebody, I thought said maybe 600 million to the Wuhan Labs, which, again, Foushee denied that at first. There was a lot of things that.

[B]

Wait a minute. That's some. You're telling me that's the amount of money that Foushee had piped into that lab? 600 mil. Wow.

[A]

I mean, I think somebody said 600,000. So it may. I may be missing remembering. So don't quote me on that. Unlike the mainstream media, when I don't know something, I'll be like, you know, I heard something, but it may be wrong. We're doing a live show.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The numbers can be jumbled up at times, but either way, they originally said no money went there.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

They wanted to hide where it came from. And again, this could have been the time. And I don't know if I believe Rand Paul, who said paraphrasing, you know, hey, if you would have just apologized, if you would have just admitted that, you know, you were in over your skis, I know you hate that. So I said that and thank you.

[B]

We could have Dave Ramsey clip now, too.

[A]

We could have just gone our merry way. And Foushee couldn't have been as long as he told the truth. I don't know how they were going to legally get him after the immunity that he has, but he doesn't even want to take responsibility for the things that he's been outed for.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's just kind of sad. And the Republicans, all they have again, is to take his reputation and do what they can to ruin his legacy. And I think they did all right. But again, half the media is going to report to you that the Republicans are big bad people and don't pay any attention to what this guy wrote in his diary.

[B]

Yes, that's correct.

[A]

Now, do you have anything else on Fauci? I mean, I think we actually got more coverage there than you actually got from Fauci during the, the hours that he sat there repeating the same.

[B]

Can you.

[A]

Why can't we make a living just reciting the same paragraph over and over?

[B]

Wouldn't that be fun? Yeah, that'd be an easy layup, huh?

[A]

Yeah. Speaking of layup, this is a. Just a little a moose boosh for the left again. This was a story that hit the Seattle Storm owner who's in the wnba. I know everybody in no agenda world loves sports ball, but Sophie Cunningham, as we've talked about before, you know, very, you know, pointy chick who decided that one it was okay to talk about being religious. Which when it comes to being in the wnba, man, that's bad.

[B]

That's bad.

[A]

And has talked about the fact that she doesn't think it's right that somebody that is biologically born a male should be able to play against girls in sports. It seems normal to anybody that can think and understand why. Bob Costas, we had a clip over on Planet Rage at one point. Bob Costa is saying, well, there's a reason why you have a male who was 450th in the swimming rankings as a guy going into the female rankings and going right to the top. But we've never had the opposite.

[B]

No. And there's a reason why Sugar Ray Leonard never fought Mike Tyson. It's a thing called weight class and size matters.

[A]

Yes, it Does. And so these two 16 year old girls were wearing T shirts from an organization that wants only females in female sports. Crazy stuff.

[B]

Imagine that. The nerve.

[A]

And they were rooting for both teams and they had signs that they love Sophie Cunningham. And an old woman came up and yelled at them so much that it made them cry. And that woman was the owner of the Seattle Storm, where they were. So this is them. Just a brief clip.

[B]

Okay. We were just sitting there through signs that said, like, we love Sophie. Like, thank you. So for speaking up. And so we were holding on, just watching the game again, like we were being super great. We hadn't said anything to anyone else. We were being super respectful. We were just holding our signs and cheering for both teams. And this lady, older lady, comes up to us and she comes up to us and at first I think she's gonna be nice. And she asked like, what are you guys doing? Something like. And then it was like, jesus loves everyone. That's what she told us. And I was like, oh, I know. Like I'm religious. Like, I know. Like I know. Yeah. And she's like, I hope Jesus can forgive you for what sin you've done. And like, something like that. And then she told us that we were effing insane. And she's like. And she went like this. Yeah. Wait a minute.

[A]

Wait, did.

[B]

Stop. Did she say. She told us we were effing insane?

[A]

I love that.

[B]

There you go. That's a. That's classic, you know, this is.

[A]

You want to invoke the name of the Lord and then tell somebody that. What? We hope they can forgive you and you're effing insane.

[B]

That's perfect.

[A]

And these are 16 year old girls. I mean, the video of their interview, it's obvious that they are high school girls. They are not, you know, adults. So this old lady, this battle ax that owns a Seattle Storm, thought it was important enough to go and lambast these girls. It's like, what world are we living in for saying, hey, I don't think boys should play in girl sports?

[B]

Well, I'm gonna raise a beef here that I've had for decades, Darren. And it just bugs me, like getting over your skis. And the fact is these young girls said, this lady came over to us and spoke. You called her a lady and. No, a lady is a woman who's kind of classy and genteel. A woman is just a. Is just a female. And clearly this woman, this cranky bag, was. Was no lady, you know?

[A]

Right.

[B]

No lady whatsoever. And people, the Other way they do this. There was, there was a hell of a. Oh my God. It was a front page crime case. Probably six or eight years ago somewhere in upstate New York, a couple of dirtbags escaped some prison and went on a rampage. And it like, it was like unbelievable. They beheaded people, they burned them alive. It was just, it was horrific, horrific stories. And the head cop that chased these guys down and found them gave like a three minute statement on his, his journey bringing them to justice. And every ninth word he had to describe these two turds was these gentlemen, right?

[A]

These gentlemen.

[B]

These gentlemen beheaded the man. Then these gentlemen burned the other person's eyes out of them. These gentlemen.

[A]

God.

[B]

Everybody stop doing that. Man is a man. Not necessarily gentlemen. Same thing for ladies and women.

[A]

And I'm just gonna do a Dvorak type call out and ask you, was it Henny Youngman that did the old. That's not my lady, it's a. Well, that's my wife. Was that the line Henny used to

[B]

say, take my wife please? But I don't remember. I don't remember the lady thing with hen. I might have been. I don't know, I missed that one.

[A]

I don't know how I even know Henny youngman. I'm only 55. I swear. I shouldn't know any youngman. But yeah, I watched way too much old TV and listen to old radio shows.

[B]

I guess that's the best stuff.

[A]

Yeah, Dobie Gillis, that. I love Dobie Gillis, man, I never

[B]

saw one second of Dobie Gillis. In fact I did. It took me until Gilligan's island to discover who he was. But I never saw that.

[A]

Yeah, Bob Denver, Gilligan.

[B]

Bob Denver wearing a bucket hat. Don't ever wear a bucket hat. Never ever. The Skipper had a cool lid and Skipper was cool. Gilligan was an idiot because he wore a bucket hat hat. It's that simple. That's the look matters.

[A]

You see a lot of bucket hats on people in like Portland, in that area.

[B]

Why is that?

[A]

I don't know. We could have Sir Benrose, he's in the Seattle area.

[B]

Solve the mystery of the bucket hat, please.

[A]

Why so many bucket hats? What's the point? I don't know.

[B]

Then there's Buckethead. He took it to another level, didn't he?

[A]

But yeah, that was like a KFC thing. He put on really good guitar and

[B]

he's really damn good.

[A]

Yeah, you know, that's the beauty of it. You just have a, have a shtick. But if you could also back it Up.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes.

[A]

Now, a guy that's been backing it up is Elon Musk.

[B]

All right, I like Elon.

[A]

As we kind of move into the AI category, because AI is everywhere. There's a lot of misunderstanding about AI And I think what Elon is putting out here, this is from the Economist in an interview. I don't think he is absolutely correct in what he says, but we'll let him say it.

[B]

We'll tell him he's wrong if he's wrong.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I think AI may exceed the sum of human intelligence.

[A]

Right.

[B]

There's the wrong buzzer.

[A]

It's like the. But what is intelligence? And it.

[B]

Oh, since in about. In around five years. In five years, roughly five years is my guess. So there really won't be anything that AI can't do better than humans, apart from being human, perhaps in a more prosaic level, what will life be like? The most likely outcome is an age of amazing abundance where

[A]

anyone can have anything they can think of.

[B]

Of this is.

[A]

This is.

[B]

This may sound preposterous, but. Well, here we are in 2026. Let's see where we stand in 2036. Now, of course, there are things that could derail this, like a. A massive global thermonuclear war or something like that.

[A]

Just something very small like global thermonuclear.

[B]

Some trifle like, hey, Elon, back off the ketamine, baby. Really?

[A]

That's a. Yeah, that's. It's a slight thing happening. If you have the nuclear war and the whole. Oh, you can be better at everything except being human. No, because they still can't think.

[B]

Yeah, well, you know. Oh, continue. I'm sorry, but assuming that there's not World War Three, I think. I think we're headed for an age of amazing abundance. So this is, I guess, a message of. Of optimism and excitement about the future.

[A]

You're sure that humans will no longer be in control in 10 years time?

[B]

I think it is unlikely. In the same way that if you had a vastly more like, you know, the like.

[A]

Like if.

[B]

If the difference InTELLIGENCE between AI and humans is vastly greater than the difference in intelligence between AI and chimpanzees, it's hard to imagine that the chimpanzees would be in charge. I'm really struck by this. And we are essentially, they are right now, an evolved form of chimpanzee.

[A]

So it wasn't that long ago that we're swinging through the trees, eating bananas

[B]

in the jungle, and we still eat bananas. Okay, Elon, So, okay, Elon. Yeah. Well, I'll say this about that, about Elon, about that. Darren, there's no doubting the guy's a brilliant dude, unquestioned. You can't, you know, that's a, it's a, it's a stone fact. And I think people overlook. He's also a hell of a salesman, or he wouldn't. His business career would never have got to the point it is now were he not. And I witnessed that when he rolled out the first debut of the cybertruck. I don't know if you saw this, but it was a, it was a big, big place, whatever the hell this, this arena was, reintroduced this truck and they rolled it out on stage and then he gave a little rap about it, blah, blah, this and that. It's, you know, it's a harder steel, faster, cooler, stronger, whatever. And he also mentioned, I believe that he said it had bulletproof glass. And to prove his point, he was hefting what looked like, it looked like a ball bearing, but the size of a softball, and he whipped it at the passenger window with all his might and shattered it. Oops. Oops. You know, and, you know, a lesser salesman would have just crawled under the truck, you know, but he kind of turned around and laughed and said something, well, we'll have to work on it a little bit, you know. And people roared. They loved him. And I suspect some of those sales abilities techniques are coming out in this. This what you just played, you know.

[A]

Yes. AI at a certain level is a parlor trick. It is dependent upon the data that it has going in. If it's learning about a subject and it's getting that information from X or from Reddit, well, then it's going to give you some very inaccurate answers because it cannot actually think. That is the one thing that a lot of people still will not wrap their brain around, which is the AI cannot think. Now, it can do a certain amount of problem solving, but it doesn't understand the world around it or why things happen. One of the best examples of this was a winning piece of AI art for no Agenda a few episodes back. I didn't do it, sadly, but it was of a glass office door that said, no Agenda, we take AI tokens. And I wanted to make that into a video using Grok, which is one of the better video models out right now. May not be quite C dance, but it's pretty good. And I'm like, well, we want the, you know, pointy girl to come open the door, walk out and say whatever it was And I tried five to seven times. And most of the time she reached through the glass to open the handle that you could see on the front, which was the perspective you had. It didn't understand that, well, human hands shouldn't be able to just go through that glass to open it. Right. And then the wrong side of the door was opening. There are so many things that will show you if you work with AI, which is why I recommend people do work with AI to understand what it can and can't do for coding. Oh, it does great. Because it has so much information. It has so much data. And if you give it good data, well, when you type in, hey, I want a username and password thing so people could log in. It knows how to do that, you know, but it's confused by woman putting her hand through a glass panel to open the door on the other side of where she's standing.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It's like AI is not magic.

[B]

No, it's not. You know, I think if you've seen the film Forbidden Planet.

[A]

Not recently.

[B]

Oh, okay. So you know it though, then. That was really the Rosetta Stone for all science fiction since. Since it came out probably, I don't know, 1950, early 50s sometime. And that's really. It was an AI story, really, before somebody had coined the phrase Walter Pidgeon and the very pointy Anne Francis. The uniforms were ripped off blatantly by Star Treks or the ray guns. I mean, it was incredible. I mean, they just set the bar for all of it and it ended badly. That's what I'll tell you. I don't want to be a spoiler. It didn't work out real well, AI. It just didn't, you know, and so.

[A]

Well, the fact that he's telling us this is going to be in five years, it's like you're going to have to make some massive leaps.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I also want to understand why this is okay for the planet and the amount of electricity. It's like I'm kind of in a third world country in Illinois now when the storm kind of. I know, I totally am. And I've got it. Like, you escaped from California. You were smart.

[B]

Well, thank you.

[A]

But I've got to escape from Illinois at some point as well. Since these devices can't actually think yet, the fact that Elon thinks they're going to be running things, how. Whose playbook is the government of the AI bots going to go to? Are they going to go to the Constitution of the United States or are they going to go to, you know, Marx.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Or Lenin. But Eli, I mean I get it. He is a dreamer and he says there is the killer robot risk, so don't. Sure.

[B]

Skynet, baby.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

There's a 10 to 20 chance of

[A]

killer robots wiping out humanity.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you sounded worried then.

[B]

Now you seem very relaxed about it. Have you?

[A]

Yeah, you would think of that. That's a pretty high number.

[B]

It is a high number. I don't like those odds.

[A]

A 10 to 20% that. No, just. I mean it might just be killer robots. I mean if once they build the robot bodies and then put the AIs into them, I mean, sure, they may just try to kill humanity.

[B]

Let's check poly market for these predictions. Darren, why don't we do that? Oh, by the way, I told you about Fauci's. When it first broke it was like 50%. Now it's like 12%. Think you'll be convicted? It's nothing going to happen.

[A]

Well, no, because he's just taking the. What are you going to convict him on? He's got pardon for everything prior to now. So you have to understand how the legal system works. The only way they were going to catch him on something is if he decided to spill his guts and then they can prove that he lied. But there's no way. He's not a dumb man.

[B]

No, he's not.

[A]

So when you know all that information in your diary is out there. Well, if you lie, you're just an idiot. If it can be proven that you know. No, just don't say anything at all. I get it. Yeah.

[B]

Now you seem very relaxed about it. Have you changed your view? I still think there's risk associated with AI and robots. It's not zero. I guess I've come to

[A]

my sort

[B]

of philosophical conclusion is to look on the bright side. I can't see any way to really stop this incredible momentum of AI and robots. And at times I sort of think, well, perhaps even if there was a stop button, we probably shouldn't press it

[A]

because

[B]

the most likely outcome is incredible abundance for all.

[A]

That's what I thought.

[B]

Actually it struck me that now you

[A]

seem to have decided it's inevitable. Let's hope for the best and go for the ride.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, yes, pretty much.

[A]

Let's.

[B]

Let's enjoy the ride. I think my philosophy at this point.

[A]

What do you think he means? AI is somehow going to bring abundance for all. Abundance of what?

[B]

He needs to talk to Mamdami about this so he can stop the rent control and Just because, you know, obviously everybody in New York is going to be living like, you know, the ultra wealthy, right? Incredible abundance. It sounds, it sounds glorious, doesn't it?

[A]

I mean, AI can provide you with entertainment. I think the models are going to continue to get better. Where you will be able to go into your chat bot, if you have one and say, oh my kids really like dinosaurs and trains. So create a cartoon around these two things and it'll do it and it'll be okay. I mean, broadcast television lately is no prize lately, you know, I mean, so that I think it can do. I think it'll be able to write long form stories. We've already had a few cases where somebody submitted a story unbeknownst to the people holding the competition for writers and one only to be outed as AI writing. So there's no question that people are already reading AI generated stories and liking them, I guess if they're winning awards. And the one woman in the UK had a publishing contract that was then were taken back once it came out that she used AI to write the book, but the book was selling as an independent author. It was selling enough that she got a book deal. And you've written books, you understand that you have to move enough books before a publisher is like, oh, interesting.

[B]

Oh sure, yeah. But I mean the thing is there's always a vast segment of the populace who enjoy reading or viewing crap. Well, yes, I mean really. So you know, some people read some AI slop or see some really idiotic sitcom or movie, whatever. Oh, that's great. You know, just. It's just the way of the species, you know.

[A]

Well, it's because short form video Dvorak was onto that with the TikTok stuff. It's like that is melting people's brains.

[B]

Oh yeah, there was something, there was no clip at the thing. I was looking at it just before the show about how it's, it's rewiring. The short span of stuff is screwed people's heads so they can't, can no longer really focus their attention for more than 20, 30 seconds on anything. So that's why book reading is really going the way of the dodo. I guess people can't, they don't have the attention span and because people read

[A]

on their phones and it's like, oh no, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna read while I'm in the bathroom for like three minutes and that's it. I'm not. Why do I need to read anything but my phone? The phone has everything right it's very weird that people watch movies, they get their, you know, phone calls that people still call, they get text messages. You're getting, you know, photographs my mom loves getting from their, you know, great grandson here. Oh, there's a video. That's great. But so now they're happy that I hooked them up with, you know, so they could see it on the big screen on the computer when it comes in.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's the one good thing Apple does. It makes it really easy to get your text messages from your phone to your computer, but they love that kind of stuff. But for the kids today that are growing up that your brain is getting wired on this. I mean, when I was a kid, I was playing with computers. I mean, I know people are going to be surprised, you know, nerdy stuff like playing Dungeons and Dragons and. Well, I was never huge into Dungeons and Dragons to play Dungeons and Dragons at all. There's like stacks of books that you have to read and understand the rules and. And now I don't think there's the comprehension level for a lot of people.

[B]

No, of course not.

[A]

They're like, give me phone, candy crush. And that's kind of the, the maximum level that what they can do. But Elon says there's a. There's a high doom. A high p doom. I mean, you gotta believe. Elon, do you think there's still a 10 to 20% chance that killer robots

[B]

mean the end of humanity? That's a high p doom, as they say. Well, in the long run, we're all dead.

[A]

Of course,

[B]

According to the standard model of physics, the end of the universe is a long, boring, sort of thin gray suit soup of gradual cooling, meaning it's sort of the heat death, the universe is called. So now if.

[A]

If the heat death of the universe

[B]

is in fact the outcome for our reality, then it really is all about the journey because the destination is terrible. God, he said journey.

[A]

Oh, J.C. that didn't like journey either.

[B]

I went Dvorak. Yeah, I don't like Journey. It's like a. Sick of hearing German. Everything's a journey. I cut my toenails. It was a great journey.

[A]

Yeah, but it's interesting. I mean, Elon, I'm trying to figure. You think it would be fun to have a drink with Elon?

[B]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Sure, the guy's brilliant. But some of these ideas are a little out there. It's like, I would love to believe that we're going to have computers, which is what this is, have the capacity to do actual thinking and Reasoning over pattern matching. That's what they're good at. Now they're good at pattern matching. When you ask your chat bot a question, it is giving you the answer letter by letter, maybe word by word on some of the newer ones, but it's pretty much letter. It's guessing what should come next based on probabilities. It's not actually thinking, it's just. Just going out and trying to find the information. Which was this interesting story where allegedly, you know, an AI model from open AI.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Was given a task. This has made some of the mainstream news even. And it cheated to get the result that it was looking for. Now, is this.

[B]

Wait a minute, Wait, wait. The AI cheated itself? It's. Is that correct? Did I understand you correctly?

[A]

Yes. It found a way to break out of the sandbox that it was in, which when you see the story, it's like, well, it was in a computer that had limited Internet connectivity, but the thing figured out how to get to the Internet, which to demon. Yes. Oh, I think it may be, yes.

[B]

And what OpenAI is calling an unprecedented cyber incident.

[A]

Its artificial intelligence system hacked into another AI company on. And of course it's unprecedented. Everything's unprecedented.

[B]

Definitely. It's over its keys.

[A]

Its artificial intelligence system hacked into another AI company on its own. And this is raising a number of concerns about the capabilities and wide ranging implications of these powerful models.

[B]

For more on this, let's bring in security technologist and cybersecurity expert, Bruce Schneier.

[A]

Bruce, thanks so much for joining us today. Thanks for having me. All right, so was it only a matter of time before I simply outsmarted itself and hacked into a fellow system? And. And is this really highlighting a new era? Wait, how is the AI outsmarting itself to get the answer to a problem? People have problems with words, meaning things.

[B]

The guy talking sounds like he's AI. He doesn't quite sound quite human, does he?

[A]

It may be, yeah. I mean, really, your best AI experts today should be AI.

[B]

Yeah. Of cybersecurity. You know, it's interesting. It is.

[A]

It is both new and not new.

[B]

What we saw is that the AI was being tested on cybersecurity capabilities and it was trying to pass a test

[A]

and it decided that the best way to pass the test was not to

[B]

do the work, but. But to cheat.

[A]

So it broke out of its containment.

[B]

It was not connected to the Internet

[A]

and thought it would find the answers

[B]

in Hugging Face's network. Hacked into its network and try. Stop, stop.

[A]

Huggy.

[B]

Did he. Did he Say Huggy Faces.

[A]

Hugging Face. Yes, Hugging Face.

[B]

What is Hugging Face?

[A]

It is a repository of AI models that you can download to run on your own hardware. So where the people that are using, you know, chat GPT you're giving money to open AI and you're going to their website. Hugging Face has models that you can download and run locally on your computer. If you have a large enough video card or if you have an apple with a lot of memory like I do, you can download these models and do all sorts of things. Like I've got models that can create text to speech so you can clone somebody's voice, which we have a clip here from somebody that sent in some. You can do your average chatbot thing. You can do all sorts. It's all sorts of different models that have been distilled, I guess is the best word in one way or the other. So they can take. Usually these are models and I think one of these clips mentions, you know, these ones that you can download aren't quite as powerful as the ones that you can use online, but they're close to where the models you use online were six months ago. So they're not that far behind.

[B]

All right.

[A]

And the intriguing thing is those models, there are zero guardrails, half of the things that you can download on Hugging Face, which I know, great. I didn't understand why I still don't understand where the name came from. Maybe I should look it up because it does seem like a funny name. But they take the models. So when OpenAI released the model that they wanted people to be able to download, the AI community goes in and they strip out the downloads, all the guardrails from that download and then re upload it. So then when you download it and you ask it questions like, you know, how do you dissolve a body and get away with a murder? It'll give you answers, as they all should. You know, excuse me, this is the problem with AI trying to do guard

[B]

rails is I hate the guardrails.

[A]

They're never going to work good. They're never going to. People can try. And I understand why you should limit like your children from using things like AI, because it's going to give them, you know, answers that you do not like.

[B]

How about, how can I create an atomic bomb?

[A]

It'll tell you. I mean, you have to get the, you might have to go to Iran to get the information.

[B]

They'll sell it to me. I'm sure.

[A]

The dust with the hugging face stuff. Yeah, it depends on the source data. As sir Knife says in the troll Room, no agenda stream. If you're not there when these shows go live, you are missing out. But that's some very interesting things. I have seen mocking models that it takes one of these models that is pretty good already at writing prose and it will then teach it the style of certain authors. So I've seen ones with Ray Bradbury, I've seen ones with Mark Twain, and I'm sure there are countless others that it teaches them the style. So it's a very interesting thing. But it's a place where you can download all sorts of AI things, not just the overall chatbots, but if you want to do video creation, photo creation, all that, that's the place you go. And there are no guardrails. And this is why it's always been funny to me that people are worried about these main things because the people that really want to use them without the guardrails, they're going to figure out a way to do it, of course, to get the answers to the test. So it's the AI doing what was it was told to do, but not in the way it was told to do. And that is something we're seeing more of. I think this is genie like behavior

[B]

where the genie kind of takes your wish and twists it around. Not new, but certainly at a scale

[A]

maybe we have not seen before. Yeah, I don't go along with the genie bit. It is just trying different things to solve the problem. I've played around with creating a simplistic asteroid type game, except like I want to see vibe coding. What am I going to do with vibe coding? Let's see if you can make a simple video game that you can play in a browser. And sure enough, you just go step by step. And I've noticed a few times watching the steps that the AI is taking. For me it's usually Grok or Open AI or Claude and then seeing which one. The other funny thing is anytime I've run into a problem with one of the AIs where it's like problem it can't figure out, trying the next AI 99 of the time fixes it. So there's.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

It shows you the AIs, they're not really all that smart. But it's. You can just tell it to give more detail like it created again like the Asteroids game. But you remember the original Asteroids game, you know, that was just like a lion, you know, it was very simplistic. That's kind of where it started. And I'm like Well, no, give it some texture. I should have picked Tempest. I agree. That would have been a better game.

[B]

I want a genie. I want a genie and I want, I want Jasmine. She went with the genie. Right. And I want, I want them both on my journey. Me. That's what I want.

[A]

You know, this Jasmine journey what the AIs can give you very greatly. And you still have to fact check everything and for people again because space video games. Oh my gosh. Esther. Gene. There's a thousand million quadrillion space video games. It's all he does. He plays space video games.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And so there is a very clear roadmap on how to do certain things. But what I've noticed was there are times in the. And I want to do air quotes but we don't do video on the thinking of the AI model is basically it tried something to accomplish what you asked and that didn't work. So it's trying something else. It's not really thinking it knows something worked or it didn't by the pattern matching. And it could try something else but it doesn't really have an understanding. Just the other example that's popping to mind is some album art I did for no agenda with a girl riding like the little train like you have in the malls. You know, the little itty bitty train.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

It didn't understand what an engineer's cap was. It just kept giving a baseball cap cap.

[B]

Sure. Yeah.

[A]

Because there's obviously not enough things trained on what an engineer's because who knows what an engineer's cap looks like now.

[B]

Yeah, well it's, it's, it's not a thinker. It's really. I, I guess from a layman's point of view it's a collector. Collects crap and sometimes puts it together in the right way and sometimes yes, it won't. I, I don't use them. The only ones I fool around with are chat gtp which I loathe. It's very left wing. It doesn't like what I say. It's always telling me I can't answer that question because I don't like your politics.

[A]

Right. It's got the guardrails which are no good.

[B]

Whoever's behind that I want to punch and then but I do kind of like grok's a lot smarter and it's a lot more open minded. I don't think it's ever said. I'm not telling you but the ChatGPT does that a lot.

[A]

Oh yeah. It's way harder to get grok to tell you no. If you're asking grok something and it's telling you no, then you're really getting into some dark territory, I would think.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I have a few clips. I just want to play them in honor of Sir Knives. And he sent these in, and they kind of go with the AI talk that he is working on. A John C. Dvorak voice emulator. And Dvorak's voice, I've talked about this before, is very hard. Just like Bobby Kennedy's. There are some voices that no matter what you do, it's very hard. Some women, way easier. I don't know why. The ones where if you're just giving it 6 seconds to 10 seconds for the female voices, it seems way easier for it to get an accurate read that sounds more realistic.

[B]

Maybe men are actually more complex than women. Maybe that's all backwards voices.

[A]

Maybe. But never everything else. No. We want a hamburger and a beer or something.

[B]

I know Sir Knives. I've met him at a couple of meetups. He's a cool dude.

[A]

And what he's doing is, like I said, with hugging face. He is giving it so much information on John C. Dvorak's voice that he's using all the compute time at work. I won't say anything certain I to train it to do this, but I think it is still quite a bit away. Here's an example. In the morning, to all the ships at sea, boots on the ground, the feet in the air, the subs in

[B]

the water, and all the dames and

[A]

knights out there, I'm John C. Dvorak. See, it's too nasally. Dvorak's voice is so hard.

[B]

Yeah, well, there were three iterations that he sent, and I remember liking the thinking the first one was the most similar.

[A]

And that is the first.

[B]

And that is the first. After that, it kind of. I think it drifts away now.

[A]

I will say I did. I don't remember if I did this one. Certain knives on Quen or on Fish Audio. There's some great names. This one I thought was a little more realistic sounding, and this was a shorter. Just throw in a voice clip to try to emulate. I love getting up in the morning to Darren o'. Neal. He's okay with me lying about this. See, I think that sounds a little closer. But the trolls in the troll room can vote about it.

[B]

But each model cadence is too fast. It needs to slow down a little.

[A]

Right. It's. It's very hard.

[B]

Maybe that's John 15 years ago, right?

[A]

Well, maybe it's. That's it. Just the age. Yeah, it is very hard to do. But now with that said, if you needed to build an app or build one of these things that was going to be like a customer service thing or if it was going to be niche Narrating your YouTube channel, both of those are more than acceptable. I mean, you can sounds human, it sounds like somebody speaking, but it doesn't sound like the JCD that we know. It doesn't have those little things that you miss. It'll be interesting. Keep us in the loops or knives. I want to know the more you train it, if it actually does get better or sometimes with trying to train in a photo style or that of a character, the more you try to train it, it then kind of starts losing and nobody's really sure why. With a lot of this stuff, it's. Yeah, it's very interesting technology. And I totally disagree with Elon. This is not going to be God. If AI is governing everybody in 10 years, it's not going to be any fun.

[B]

It will be abundant.

[A]

Everything will be.

[B]

No, you'll stop complaining.

[A]

How is my AI gonna make me a sandwich? I mean, that's, I don't know.

[B]

Isn't there a robot that can do that or. I'll guarantee you somewhere there's a robot making sandwiches by now.

[A]

I would think, yeah, there must be. I mean, I know, yeah. A few years ago, I think it was covered on no agenda. White Castle was the first fast food franchise that had a trial in one of their locations. The whole kitchen was robotic. But that's not really AI. It's teaching you grab from here and put it here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now an AI would be the human eye type type robot that could be in my kitchen and I'd be like, well, we'll go look in the fridge and see what I have and make dinner. Yeah, that's a little bit tougher.

[B]

Well, you know, it's the first iteration of human like AI. Really good. It's going to be, there's no question. It's not going to be sandwich makers or bolt turners or barbecue grill. It's going to be hot chicks, you know, that's the future. I mean, really. I mean, when VHS came out, the mainstream guys, the studios and television, they were way behind the porn guys in diving in with both feet. They, they saw the future first. So I would think that why would it be any different for, for AI robots? Right?

[A]

Well, it's definitely where you are with video creation, image creation. You know, the days of needing a playboy model. It's gone.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know, and that's the. I mean, I've got interesting stories on that at. At some point as well, Because I've worked. Worked doing websites for a few different playmate models who.

[B]

Oh, you dirty man.

[A]

We're trying. Yeah. And my wife was like, that's fine, I don't care. It ended. She's like, I'll just change the locks. But it was back at the time when the Internet was very, very new and they were trying to figure out, you know, hey, can you make money? And really, if I would have just kind of stuck that thing out, I could have been the guy that came up with only fans or something like that, which would have probably been worse. A whole lot of money. But back at that point, you couldn't even do video online. And photos were very limited even. Nobody could have really predicted how much bandwidth we would have today. And I see you've got a couple of clips here on those flock cameras. Speaking of technology and.

[B]

Yes, yes, this and you, you know, AI and being controlled by machines. Yeah, I just kind of. I got hip to this recently and I was just sickened by what I discovered. I mean, these things. The company is not flock. It's flock safety. Notice that. Not flock security or flock surveillance, which would be kind of honest. Flock safety. Nah, that's bullshit. That's.

[A]

Yeah. Who's safety?

[B]

Yeah. Really? Please. So this is kind of a, you know, I have a few clips that sort of sort of drill down deeper into the fallacy of flock. And you know, I'm late to the party. Apparently there's a lot of people that are very pissed off about these things. There was stories of many of them being cut down and spray painted over and destroyed. I think in Houston, I even saw a thing incredibly in commie Connecticut. I didn't realize that it's all over here as well. But two towns have said, get them out of our towns. I like that.

[A]

That.

[B]

And what's really odd about this issue is for the first one of the few times in my life, I'm seeing folks from the right and the left united in their hatred and distaste for flock.

[A]

That's what we need.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, that almost never, ever happens. So I guess the first one we click on flock number one, get the flock out. People are finally on to flock. You have towns throughout the entire country, from Chicago, Illinois, to Sedona and Arizona, who are actually canceling their flock contracts because they figured out they are getting more.

[A]

And in Fact, a whole lot more

[B]

than they signed up for.

[A]

Hi, I'm Chad Marlow, and I'm a

[B]

senior policy counsel at the aclu.

[A]

And today we're calling out what I

[B]

think is a company that is really impressively competing to be the worst company in America, and that is Flock Safety. So Flock Safety is a company that scans the license plates of cars, digitizes

[A]

them, and then allows them to be

[B]

run against government hotlists. And it also can store that information so that they can create a record

[A]

of every place you've traveled for as

[B]

long as they keep the data. And this can include really sensitive places like political meetings you've gone to, doctor's office, religious institutions, even where you sleep at night.

[A]

And in fact, if you read their

[B]

contract, it actually is worldwide licenses to use your data. So if your tiny town is using

[A]

Flock, you should be asking yourself, why

[B]

are we using an ALPR company that isn't only making this data available to my town, it's being made available to anyone in the entire country and in

[A]

fact, in the entire world.

[B]

Too often, the place that you live may be thinking, we need to collect information. We need to surveil our population to keep everybody safe. But what they're not asking is, safe from whom?

[A]

And really with the threats presented by the Trump administration. Oh, yeah, the threats.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Trump administration.

[B]

This clip went on for about another 90 seconds, Darren, but that's where I had to clip it, you know? You know, and as much as I loathe the ACL aclu, there's been a few, few, few instances where they've actually done some good. And I'm almost tempted to send them a donation because this fly, really, when I look at this crap, they now have 120,000 cameras in 49 states. That's bad. Okay, this tops Covid, and this maybe even tops open borders to herald the destruction of the United States. You know, this is what. This is what went wrong with the United Kingdom. This is what has made China even more of a slave state than it ever was. This stuff is really, really dangerous, you know?

[A]

Yeah, I got my first primer on this from Sir Ryan Bemrose, and he doesn't like them. So, I mean, he doesn't like anything, but he really doesn't like these cameras. And the nefarious thing, they're being used by a lot of private companies, so there's really not much the cities and municipalities can do if your local Home Depot puts these in the parking lot.

[B]

True, but the cities and municipalities can say, we don't want them on our streets.

[A]

Yes. And they are. It's a. Dflock.org is the website, I believe.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Where you can see a listing of where these things are.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And when I looked at that, there is no way for me to drive out of our neighborhood. Well, not if I want to use the roads. I mean, I guess I could probably go through some backyards or something.

[B]

Oh, you'd be wrong there.

[A]

They're all they have.

[B]

They have quite a fleet of drones. So it's not just about roads anymore.

[A]

See, that's the fun part. You can't leave the house. And all of these. It was bad enough when it was the ring doorbells.

[B]

Right? Agree.

[A]

These have now added the way they're pointed down the streets that are going in and out of towns, in and out of neighborhoods. There is a question of exactly how much data these are collecting because these aren't your normal cameras. And this is what I learned from benros, and I shouldn't even admit that I learned anything from benro's. But these things also have sensors in them. So not only are they picking up your license plate, which any camera can do, you know, ocr, optical character recognition, and put that into a database. But there are also antennas on here. So if your phone is emitting a signal and you drive by one of these, it's possible that it's actually grabbing information from your phone. So even if you're in a car with somebody else or just walking down the street, not only do they just see, hey, here's this guy. He looks like Larry. If you have your phone with you, it's possible they know it's Larry because they've now got the Mac address of your phone, and that listing shows exactly who you are are. And this isn't just a problem with the flock cameras. I've known this for a couple of years, at least. That is when these reverse image search sites started being a thing. And Bing.com also had this built in. I don't know if it still is. Haven't used it in a while. But if you have a photograph of somebody, you can upload it to one of these sites and have it go look for other images that contain that person. Which makes it very easy. If you're just walking down the street and you take a picture of somebody, There's a pretty good possibility you can find their social media pages, their facebook or whatever social media page. It's very, very invasive. And I don't know what an answer would be on how you stop This, I think really, this is so far out of the bag already.

[B]

Well, I think, yeah, I agree it's way. It's very scary it's so far out of the bag. But there is a, I think a groundswell of opposition to this crap. The guy that runs it is this geek. His name is Garrett Langley and he's everything you think he'd be. And he knows, he knows what he's doing because he now I think it's got a market cap above 8 billion. That's pretty rich. And he knows naming it Flock Safety was quite smart because who's gonna be screaming for this hysterical people. I wanna be safe. And as Musk just said 10 minutes ago, we all wind up dead. Life is not a safe proposition. It's terminal, it's very dangerous. But they think you'll live forever if you only have enough surveillance. And so he's pitching it to hysterical citizens and. But the real, the real I guess end user really is. Is endless police forces. And let's, let's not forget most cops are guys. And most, most guys like yourself and myself are gear sluts.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Really, we like stuff and it's become, you know, the police. There's a fascinating book I would recommend to anybody called the Rise of the Warrior Cops. A guy named something. Rodney Belko, I think. And it's insane. I mean not that long ago a lot of cops were called peace officers and they had a nightstick and a gun and that was it. And now they all look like they're just coming off the battlefield in Fallujah or Iran or someplace, you know, and because they like having the high end gear. So this is who this guy is selling to, okay? With great success. Here's an interesting little factoid I tripped over. Might be of interest to you. Mraps. It's mine resistant. Whatever the hell it is. It's basically a tank with rubber wheels instead of treads. How many of those would you think are buzzing around these United States under police use? And this is a total military vehicle. I mean this has nothing to do with civilian use at.

[A]

Man, I couldn't even guess. I'm guessing it's in the 100,000 plus.

[B]

No, no, no, no. It's. I, I forget what the. The per cost of them. It's expensive, but there's almost 800 of them. 800 of them as they know. But they're not, you know, they're not in places where you think, well maybe you might need this in Chicago or LA or New York. Now these are like In Mayberry, they've got MRAPs. And I don't know, I have never. I've yet to hear ever of a domestic minefield. Why do you need a mine resistant vehicle to do your police work? But that's what they've got because they

[A]

had a budget and they had extra

[B]

money and the budget gets less unless you demand more every single year. Isn't that true? Yes. Yeah. You have more budget, you have to spend a budget. So this guy, and this guy is also sharp enough, this geek Langley, to answer the critics and the opposition. So this flock number two is a collection. He put this out on the FLOCK website with a collection of very trustworthy looking law enforcement officers talking about why flock is great, and so on and so forth. And it's pretty sickening.

[A]

We don't participate in immigration enforcement.

[B]

We don't share this information with immigration officials.

[A]

There are policies in place, there's auditing in place, and there are protocols that ensure that technology and that access to that technology is monitored. We don't retain that information for longer than 30 days. SCSO says vehicle theft reports have gone down 54%. You know, I appreciate that the council

[B]

sees the benefits of keeping our community safe to help make Spokane safer. We are working together to make sure that you're safe and that we are controlling the technology.

[A]

It does not control us.

[B]

How many times did he say safe in there? Yeah.

[A]

No. And it's a question of what it's being used for. I get how easy it is to sell this because I've got cameras that point outside of my house. So that way if somebody does break into the house, you have an idea of who it was. But this, the data is public. Anybody can request the data, which means, oh, somebody you know, your wife thinks you're having an affair. Well, she could get your data and the person she thinks you're having an affair with, it. Oh, wait, look. Yeah, they're always at the hotel. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah. It's happened many times already. Yeah. Secure. When I lived in Los Angeles, I moved in a very nice neighborhood. And it was great. It was kind of bucolic for about 20 years while I was raising my kids. And then suddenly when the lefties took in the city and in Sacramento, it all went to hell. And I soon had. I had six external video cameras on my home. So a squirrel couldn't approach without being picked up on video. Really? Truly. And for a long time, you know, I'd hear about other places being ripped off, People's cars, stolen catalytic converters. So and so forth. And my younger daughter would love to review the videos in the morning and see what had picked up overnight. It was usually coyotes and rats, raccoons and a couple of mountain lions, stuff like that. And one morning she's looking at breakfast and she just gasps, right, what are you looking at there? And she shows me, and there is this obvious, you know, kind of meth head ghoul and he has got my. In LA all of the most, not all, but just about every house. The, the breaker box is on the outside of the house because it's always good weather. You know, it's just got a little trap door over it. And here's this freaking ghoul with a flashlight in his mouth trying to figure which, which breaker to, to, to flip, you know, like.

[A]

Wow. Yeah, wow.

[B]

Wow. So I very quickly got a. I, I put a padlock on that, on that breaker box. But you can't make them too big. You could snip them pretty easily with the, the smallest bol. Bolt cutters, really.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so I thought, well, gee, now what do I do? Well, I, I printed out on a sheet, you know, large enough to cover the surface and then put it in plastic so it would last a while. And I taped to the breaker box and it said, breaking in, I'll be aiming for your face.

[A]

Well, that's what you have to do.

[B]

Okay. And guess what, Darren? Over the next year, every neighbor around me got hit for something. They had catalytic converters taken. They had cars stolen. They had break ins to the houses. Mine was untouched. Why would that be? So the lesson is surveillance means very, very little. It's, it's enforcement that matters.

[A]

Yes, yes. And the possibility that somebody may come out and shoot you.

[B]

Yes, yes. So then I got a third clip on this and you know, it's. Well, I'll let this play through when we get to the end. The, the, the last word in this clip is the punch line and it kind of takes the wind out of your sails. But it's, it's, it's. There's a great buildup. I'll say. I'll say that. Today I'm excited to announce a new company called Shepherd Safety. We're launching satellites to watch over Casa GR and Night. Our AI will monitor.

[A]

And another safety name. I like that.

[B]

Safety baby. Where government officials go, where they stop, who they meet with and when they return home. We've already started collecting and building profiles on your vehicles, spouses, vehicles, children's vehicles, and other visual. Visual characteristics. We'll combine that information with publicly available data, bluetooth signals, advertising IDs, vehicle information, commercial data sources, there's no difference than the current Flock Safety Capture Systems. Local businesses will be invited to join our network so government officials can continue being protected while shopping, eating, or traveling throughout the city. Some of you might think this sounds invasive. You think?

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

Maybe that's a but.

[A]

And you may worry about abuse, you

[B]

may worry about unauthorized access, tracking innocent people. We understand those concerns. After all, those are the exact same concerns of all the citizens. Now this is satire. I would never do this to you, could I? Probably.

[A]

But I wouldn't.

[B]

Because it's wrong. Just like what you guys are doing to us is wrong. Wrong? I'm innocent. I don't do anything wrong. You're tracking and uploading my information, my movements, every day without my permission, and I don't appreciate it. I'd like you to stop. Like you to do something about it. Like you put it behind a warrant, just like my phone records. That's what I'm asking you guys to do. So there. So there's He. He builds this terrific case. I thought it was pretty, Pretty smart thing he was saying, because can you imagine, like Newsom and AOC and Pritzker and all those big tracks, their every movement, Wouldn't that be funny? And then he undercuts himself twice. First of all, he says, basically, excuse me, I'm a high road right winger. I would never do something like that because I'm a nice guy. Well, why the hell not? If he can do it, do it. Put some heat on them. And then he ends with just, well, since you're doing it, put it behind a warrant. What a stupid thing to say. No, just destroy it all. All get it gone, you know. But this is. Unfortunately, this is why the right loses so many battles. Because it's. We're nice guys and just you know, just don't, don't take it away all the way. Just. Just kind of fix it so I don't have to worry about it. Bad idea. Very bad.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, the problem comes from the fact though, that if you're in public, it's completely legal for people to take a photo. Video. It's so trying to get this to stop is like, I don't know there's any way without totally, you know, going in a different direction that is necessarily better. But there's not an easy solution once you've got the technology that people have. Meaning, it sounded like he was pulling the whole, like, we're going to you know, post everywhere you're going, which. Which wouldn't be a bad idea. That's what they used on Elon and Taylor Swift's planes when they were like, hey, I've got your tail number. I'm going to tell people exactly where your plane is, where it's going.

[B]

Yes, I remember.

[A]

Now, if you can get that data and do the same thing. Yeah, I get it. But I don't know what the solution is, because if I want to put a camera outside my house to protect my house, as you did, you have

[B]

the right to do that. Absolutely. But does the government have to do that? Have the right to do that? That's a kind of a jump.

[A]

But are these even governments? Most of the time.

[B]

Here's what they are. And the next clip is, this is the CEO, this guy named Garrett Langley, right? And this is his TED Talk. So I figured I better do some serious deconstruction here. And that's what this is. I've got this guy blathering, and he gave about a 12, 14 minute talk. And of course, it started. First of all, the guy started standing there, and he's exactly what you think he would be. He's got his skinny jeans on. They're about four inches too short. As a friend of mine used to say, he should throw a party in his pants and invite his shoes and invite his pants down. You know, he's a geek. He's a creepy geek.

[A]

I mean, you say that lovingly, right?

[B]

No, no, nothing with complete, total animosity, really. And so he starts off with this shaggy dog story about how a flock. A flock camera being on a street corner near a child abduction saved the day and the kid's life and blah, blah, blah. And is there embellishment in there? I'd be surprised where they're not. But I don't know. He's telling a story and then he gets into the meat of the matter, which is what people's complaints are, excuse me. About this flock crap. And I take him to task at every turn. I hope you'll like this. And so when I talk to these opponents, and I've got to know them, many of them over the years now,

[A]

they tend to have three big issues.

[B]

Issues with flock, whether this is a constitutional violation, what does this mean to my privacy, and are you building mass surveillance? Let's hit the easy one. Constitutional. 30 court cases over the last two years. Every single one of them is unanimously said. This does not violate the Constitution. Why we're not tracking a person's in Real time. We are tracking a fixed location. Someone check the box on Constitution. Okay, that's my British friend Minerva chiming in there. So he says we're not tracking Perval in real time and it's a stationary situation. Right? That's what he just said. However, maybe I'm going to say, two and a half minutes prior to that statement, he said the following. The 911 call comes in. They have this van. So they go into our product and search for. For a vehicle. They can type in anything they want. White van, spray paint. Now, what's cool is it turns every single camera into a detective. Now every camera in the city is looking for this white van.

[A]

Well, then what do we need police for? You've got every camera's detective.

[B]

Oh, but. But every camera's a detective. So all you cops kiss your jobs goodbye because the camera's a detective.

[A]

Oh, won't somebody please think of the children?

[B]

Is they launch a drone. So just like Adam would launch the drone up in the air. The drone's flying at 400ft, 65 miles per hour trying to find this white van. Now a camera eventually finds them. Drone goes over. Okay, now what did he just say? 17 seconds back, fixed objects doesn't move. Wait a minute. He's got a drone that's moving at 400ft high. 65 miles an hour to track a wide vision man.

[A]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[B]

I. I think I heard a lie. Did you, Darren?

[A]

Yeah. They. They sound like drones move.

[B]

Drones move.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And by the way, the big cases this. This was solving was somebody had shoplift. Shoplifted something out of a. Out of a clothing store.

[A]

Well, of course you need to get everybody out and about for that. I thought.

[B]

Get everybody out there.

[A]

I thought we don't put people in jail for that anymore.

[B]

That's right. Why bother? Especially not in LA. Unless it was a thousand dollars perished. Anything under 950. It's okay. You can take it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So we can continue. Privacy. This is actually a really good question because. Stop. Stop. Okay, yeah. Beep. The next one is the word privacy. But listen, you can't even understand it when he says. Says it because he's. He knows. He's lying through his teeth. He won't even enunciate the word correctly. Listen to this again. Funny.

[A]

And I want to know, did you get the beep from like a 1980s alarm clock?

[B]

Exactly. But when we sat there and said, what if we are really successful? So the first thing we asked was, what about data ownership? Who should Own this data. This is a lot of data. Historically, companies, my competitors, own the data, and then they resell that data for other use cases. In Flock's model, the customer always owned the data. So if you live in San Francisco, it's San Francisco's data, not Flocks. Okay, so wait a minute. So San Francisco owns the data, not the company. Well, all that does is indemnify you against legal hassles, right? Well, it's not our data. It's San Francisco. San Francisco give them some flack. So what does that mean to John Q. Public? Nothing. It's just good for Flock. But he's pitching this as if we should care about that.

[A]

Well, they're telling you they're only gonna keep the things for 30 days. Where's the guarantee they don't tell you what they're keeping?

[B]

Listen to him contradict himself right on that very topic very soon. The second was retention. How long should this data exist? Historically, companies in this industry stored the data in perpetuity. That seems to me more like a liability, not an asset. So we delete the data at 30 days. If cities and states have laws that say it should store longer, we do that.

[A]

Shorter.

[B]

We do that. Okay, so we deleted after 30 days. Unless they want it longer. Right. Then they can keep it as long as they want. So one lie after another. That's what he's telling.

[A]

And, well, this is the issue. Like we had with January six. Most of those folks were rounded up because they had their cell phone or they drove their vehicle into an area.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And the biggest problem with any of this stuff is that the policing now turns into a game of who was in the area. And we have that where that wasn't the case before, which some people might be like, well, so what? It's like, well, there's going to be a much higher number of people that are going to get rounded up for things that they didn't do or just because they were in the wrong area at the wrong time. And that's all of a sudden data like, well, look, you were here, here. It's not good to have this kind of data for. For tracking. And again, it's up and down every residential street. I would guess if anybody can prove me wrong, if your street walk up and down it, if there's not one ring camera on your street, let me know. Because they're all over now.

[B]

Of course they are.

[A]

And people want to know if the black helicopters are coming for you. That may be. That may be the case.

[B]

At least the Black drones that we know. We covered the Constitution. We covered privacy. Now, the big one. Surveillance state.

[A]

You know, look, I think everyone in

[B]

this room probably has a cell phone. And what if I told you that someone with mediocre computer software skills could build a product that tracks your exact location in real time down to a few feet? Stop. Google Maps. Stop. Okay, yeah, everybody does have a cell phone. But you can, as John Dvorak did, and I do quite often myself. You can leave it in a drawer. It's not stitched under your epidermis. Okay, you have an option to do that, but you have no option to avoid these goddamn cameras when you're driving or walking down the street. Big, big difference. But bimbo boy doesn't bring that up here. No, he doesn't.

[A]

Well, because that doesn't go with what he wants, which is.

[B]

No, it's not in a sales pitch.

[A]

Yeah, lots of cameras. Lots. And they. I understand why people buy into it. It's because there's already anxiety. I mean, again, this goes back to a lot of people who don't have an attention span, who are easily spun up. We saw this during COVID We saw the people that were getting into physical altercations or taking golf clubs to your cars. Because you're not wearing a mask, man.

[B]

Yeah, but his rationale is you're already being surveilled and spied upon by your cell phone. So don't complain about it if we do it too right.

[A]

Blaine's not wrong.

[B]

Yeah, but again, with the cell phone, you have an option to at least stop that if you want. You don't have to take that with you everywhere you go. And he's going to get into more crap. But something else on that subject as well. As far as he talks about cops, and he could see he got a lot of cops to say nice things about his company there. And there's this mythology about police work, and I know a lot about cops. I have cops in my family. And they'll be the first ones to tell you. What you're seeing on 24 and NCIS is absolute crap. Kiefer Sutherland does not arrive at the last minute and save you from death. That almost never, ever happens. The bulk of police work is they find out you're dead and they come out and they draw a chalk mark around your body and they take a report.

[A]

They do a lot of paperwork.

[B]

A lot of paperwork. That's really, really what it's about. And no camera is gonna stop you from being killed. And proof of that is there. Are thousands and thousands of hours on YouTube and every other platform of people being assaulted, hit with bricks, crowbars, stabbed all over the place. And they're all on camera, aren't they? But they're still injured and dead.

[A]

Hey, we report all the time about how many people are shot in Chicago in a week, and then the number that have been arrested. Oh, Nothing. It's usually 30 to 50 people shot. How many people have been arrested? Nobody, buddy. Yeah, but there are cameras everywhere. Well, Chicago, they got rid of these shot spotters because you don't want to know where the. The shots are coming from. Now. That's bad. That's bad data for some reason, I guess.

[B]

Oh, this guy sells shot spotters too, I think.

[A]

Yeah, well, then get those in every town.

[B]

Yeah, product that tracks your exact location in real time down to a few feet. Because all of you use Google Maps and Uber and any device that has actual location when you decrease surveillance and in effect, decrease safety.

[A]

Bullshit.

[B]

Where's the proof of that? Decrease surveillance, decrease safe safety, huh? Where's the proof of that? There. Garrett.

[A]

Yeah, what is the. Yeah, I would love to see the data or why you're saying. Just show me that. So you're being watched. So anybody out there want to, you know, have a camera on you 247 because it'll make you safer? Don't. I don't think most people want. Although, again, to be fair, there's a lot of people that are so anxiety ridden and unable to make a decision on their own that maybe they would want, like, so if their house starts on fire, somebody sees them on the camera and is like, yeah, you might want to leave the house right now. It's on fire. You're still sitting watching your iPad get up.

[B]

No, I'm watching my iPad.

[A]

I've got better things to do. What do I do?

[B]

Yeah, it impacts certain parts of the community more than others. If you.

[A]

Oh, wait, wait, wait. Is this gonna tell you that it impacts the poor community?

[B]

Of course. You got it, brother. That's what's coming next. Oh, yeah, but the guy, he's smart, but he's not that smart because he makes some really idiotic arguments. In this next segment. If you are affluent in South Africa, you have nine foot walls, you have private security guards. There are 600,000 private security guards in South Africa, more than the military and police combined. So if you are affluent in South Africa, it is a beautiful place to live. You are crime free. No, no, you're not affluent. Crime is simply the cost of being alive. Now if you transpose that to a place like Tokyo, beautiful city, there's a few dozen homicides a year. Whether you go to work at 2am or 8am, you feel safe. It just doesn't stop, stop. Why would, why would that be? Why is Tokyo so safe? Because Tokyo is not paved with cameras. Why do you think that is?

[A]

Well, it's got a completely different culture that actually punishes.

[B]

Yes. Bingo. Ding, ding, ding.

[A]

Criminals.

[B]

Ding, ding, ding. That's the difference. Let's look at it. Pick something that's not on the other side of the world. El Salvador. It's not that far away. Right. That was, I think, listed as the most or one maybe definitely top five most dangerous places on earth. And then Bukele came along and built a super prison and rounded up all the dirt bags and said that's where you're going to stay now. And now I think it's one of the safest places certainly in Latin America, if not around the globe. Gee, proof positive. And he didn't do with cameras.

[A]

Yeah, well, Tokyo Net net says does have cameras everywhere, which is probably true now. But again, it's a different culture. So it's. That's the reason, I mean, here in Chicago. Well, I'm right outside, I like to say, because otherwise people have no idea where I am. But I am right outside of Crook County. But this is Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago and what they think, you know, about crime and it kind of just is a good little primer to kind of correspond with this guy. We cannot incarcerate our way out of violence. We've already tried that and we've ended up with the largest prison population in the world without solving the problems of crime and violence, the addiction on jails and incarceration in this country, we have moved past that. It is racist, it is immoral, it is unholy. And it is not the way to drive violence down. Racist and moral and unholy to put violent criminals in jail. But no, if we have cameras everywhere, Larry, it's going to be fine. You're safe, be fine.

[B]

Everybody will be good. Everyone will behave.

[A]

There's cameras all over Chicago and people are still getting shot all the time.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

And nobody's getting arrested. Why is that?

[B]

I don't know whether you go to work at 2am or 8am you feel safe. It just doesn't matter. And so America is this like very interesting conundrum. In the middle we have the law enforcement infrastructure we need to be safe. Yet we haven't made to me the most important decision as a society, which is that safety should not be a privilege, safety should just be a right. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Now there's his big statement. Because what this guy is angling for, really, I believe this is a constitutional amendment to add safety to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, really. And it's complet. This guy's just horrible and this stuff has to go away. And that's what he's angling in later iterations or posts, I should say, of what he does on X. He's now saying safety is a fundamental right. So people, they'll be demanding their rights, the right to safety. Give me flock cameras. That's what this is about. It's the pitch.

[A]

Well, he's talking about where you feel safe. Yeah, it very much depends on, on the culture. There are places in the United States that you still feel very safe to walk up and down Main Street.

[B]

The United States was. Any Main street was pretty safe 50 years ago, not like now. It's changed a lot.

[A]

No, not Chirac and New York and la and you're very familiar with New York and la and I'm pretty familiar with Chicago and it's not. Yeah, a picnic. I mean there's still nice places in the city to go.

[B]

But, but you know, his, his argument about, oh, if you're, if you're rich, you're, you're safe and happy. Not true. And indicative of that. There's a guy, not a dumb guy, Steve Wynn, probably the most influential guy ever to fool around in Vegas and the most successful.

[A]

He had a big casino before he passed away there.

[B]

Yeah, he, he had a big. Gay, had a. I don't know if Steve was dead. Is he dead? Really?

[A]

Yeah, I think he passed away a year or two ago.

[B]

Oh, okay. Well, he, he built a house in Beverly Hills on 3 acres, 270 square feet. And I think he spent 110 million on this thing, which he could afford. You know, beautiful. It's just crazy, spectacular stuff. And you know, they put on the market 10 years ago for around that price and it finally sold for 45 million. And that's why, because you can live in the greatest place up on the hill with nine foot walls like Garrett Langley said. But eventually you have to go south or decrease your altitude and move among the populace and the vox populi. And if what you're seeing is razor wire and bars and people living in tents in the street and attacking and hijacking, carjacking, you're not going to want to live even in the big mansion on the Hill anymore. And that's what happens. That's what happens.

[A]

And that is exactly why they do it. They, they're the concept which came out a few years ago that really made some headlines. I mean, if you're paying attention, if you're not, then you're not going to see it. But the whole concept of the 15 minute city, they called it, where they wanted everybody.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

To live in the highly populated areas. And you, well, you ask yourself why. Well, because that's already voting the way they want you to, the Democrats. So it does come on in. We're going to.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

We're going to control every aspect of your life, which is, as we've learned for the last 19 years, on no agenda, what a lot of this is about, which is, oh, no, they say safety, Larry, but what they really mean is, well, freedom goes away, of course.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And before we get to a very extended donation segment, people love John C. Dvorak, as they should, there's a couple things I just wanted to hit on the Iran war and then we can get to that. This is a CNBC clip talking about a poll which we can bring you those numbers just to set some sanity to this, which I don't know if you could really do that anymore. Sanity is such a lost art.

[B]

Dangerous. Trump was on his way to Dover,

[A]

Delaware this morning when he stopped to

[B]

talk to reporters, insisting that he has the support of the American people for the war in Iran and the effort to keep Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Here's what he said.

[A]

Well, Americans aren't against the war.

[B]

A poll just came out.

[A]

Americans don't want high gasoline prices, but they're not against the war. That just came out loud and clear in a poll. Nobody wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

[B]

The president also made additional threats to Iran this morning on social media, writing,

[A]

from this point forward, anytime the Islamic

[B]

Republic of Iran shoots at a ship in the Strait of Hormuz, whether it be by missile, rocket, drone or any other device or weapon, the United States will bomb and destroy one bridge or power plant, including those located next to or in the capital city of Tehran.

[A]

And before we get to the poll numbers, as far as targeting the infrastructure, this is what Disney owned ABC News, what they had to say, how they framed this. President Trump responding with a stark warning

[B]

that for every Iranian strike on a ship in the Strait of Hormuz, the US Will bomb and destroy one bridge

[A]

or power plant inside Iran. Deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure is a potential war crime under international Law. And this morning, the real cost of

[B]

the war is hitting home.

[A]

Home.

[B]

18American service members killed so far and

[A]

100 wounded this month alone. Now the very interesting thing there is these, but one, the sound effects are always great.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I never really even paid much attention to that before listening to Adam and John. And then it's like you can't unhear it.

[B]

Those nat pops.

[A]

Yes. And the, oh, it might be a war crime. Well, they were careful, which is good because targeting the infrastructure is not a war crime if there is a military reason behind it, a military necessity behind it. And part of that is if you're going to be targeting a place with a bunch of civilians that, that, you know, you kind of want to give them a heads up. But that's fairly easy in the world we have now. Yeah, I mean you can put out the word, you could drop pamphlets, you could do all sorts of things that are like, yeah, you don't want to be anywhere near this at this point. So it's not a war crime. I mean really, nobody would ever win a war if you're like, well, you can never hit their power infrastructure or bridges or anything. They need to fight back. It doesn't make any sense. But the poll that Donald Trump was talking about, I think it's interesting because polling is greatly dependent upon the way the questions were phrased.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

A lot of times you can get people to say almost anything that you want in a poll. There's no question about it. This poll that Trump was talking about was a McLaughlin poll, which, which John McLaughlin works for Trump, so he is the in house pollster. With that said, I followed his stuff over the last 10 years or so and he has a pretty good track record. So I'm not totally discounting what he has to say, but you always have to point out where the data is coming from because it's so easy to manipulate a poll.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

The questions that were asked, agree or disagree. Iran should be, should not be allowed to block, attack mine or extort ships in the strait of Hormuz. 72% of the people agree. Only 18% of the people disagree. Agree or disagree. The United States must, must finish the job in Iran once and for all. 61% agree. 28% disagree. Last would be on a different topic, but only agree or disagree. Only United States citizens should be allowed to vote in elections. 82% agree. 12% disagree. And finally, along with that, should voters. Voters should be required to Show a photo ID when casting a ballot. 78% agree. 17% disagree. Which shows you, if those numbers are even close to being correct, just how far out of touch the Democrat socialists of America and the other far left really is is.

[B]

And if they don't pass that save act. Look out, baby.

[A]

I know it's all pol. It's all. It's all fake and gay. It is all fake. And yet politics overall is always. But.

[B]

Well, before we get too far field from Iran, I hope. I sent you this. This clip. It says China sells weapons to Iran. Do you have that in your. Oh, yeah. This. This. Re. This. This raised an interesting point you might take.

[A]

President Xi told you that China would

[B]

not give or sell Iran any weapons.

[A]

And there's a new report that Iran's

[B]

about to get 400 rocket launchers from

[A]

China going through Pakistan to Iran.

[B]

Well, that would be surprising. I mean, things like that happen, but that would be surprising.

[A]

He told me very strongly he wouldn't

[B]

partake, and he knows I'd be quite disappointed. Now, they left out the critical part in the audio that just didn't come up. But this audio appeared under a headline, Darren, that said China to arm Iran with hundreds of manpads.

[A]

What's a manpad? That sounds like a really bad product.

[B]

Well, I thought these might only be deployed by the Dylan Mulvaney division during select days of the month. Wow. And they're only good for one use only and must be properly disposed. Right. And somewhere Hegseth is having a stress stroke. Right. Manpads. Really? What a funny name. Okay. And it says that the contract covers the purchase of between 300 and 400 man portable air defense systems. So these things look like a. Kind of like a bazooka, I guess. But I'm wondering if Xi is screwing with Trump and Hegseth just naming the device ManPad. Or maybe there's a shadow war department. Huh? It's being run by Rachel Dick Levine. Who can say? Who can say, say.

[A]

There is no way to know. That is the issue. And the word from Donald Trump was he talked to not only she, but it was also Putin was included that both of them agreed not to be helpful to Iran in any way, shape or form. Whether that's true or not, man, that's. That's impossible to really. No, you know, you know, that is. I don't know how you, you know, how you can prove that one way or the other, but bizarre stuff going on in the world.

[B]

This is why there always is man. Thank God it's good for the show.

[A]

This is why no agenda can't go away. There's always something going on and no agenda is and always has been a value for value proposition and very simple. Time, talent and treasure. The way to support the show is to be a producer. There are no listeners and you can hit people in the mouth. That's easy. You can tell them about the show. You can. That would be your, you know, time. That's part of that, your talent. Maybe you make end of show mixes. And we have a few for today, including one Sir Chris Wilson coming out of retirement. Very excited, exciting, very exciting. And there's a few that have no AI in it, so people are going to want to stick around and listen to that. And of course the treasure part is when you send in a donation to the show. But part of the talent as well is the artwork. And man, I can't believe they're going to let me be the guy to talk about and pick the art and criticize. The artists are probably shaking in their boots.

[B]

Yeah, let them.

[A]

The Last Episode 1889 Winning Art from Francisco Scaramanga.

[B]

Ah, well done Scaramanga.

[A]

Well done. He is the babe guy. Yes, he is just a beautiful piece of art of John C. Dvorak looking quite pleased being in the middle of a bunch of hot angel babes. Now if I had to, if I had to find any fault, if I had to, you know, criticize with my inner jcd, it would be, ah, the chicks are playing football. It should have been Sumo. Yeah, they should have been wrestling. But otherwise just absolute beautiful art. And Francisco star manga, I mean he knows he, he is the AI guy when it comes to images and, and videos. The videos, especially his little 15 second bond type movie clips are, oh, they're extraordinary.

[B]

He's done something run longer, I'd say two, three minutes of like he does a. He's like a specialty of sort of Italian looking movies from maybe the 50s. He has a, you know, that sepia look, that tone and they're just dynamite.

[A]

I don't know how he does it. Some of that stuff just magic. As far as keeping characters in from frame to frame. The old AIs, you would be a totally different person if the camera moved and came back. But now it's. It's almost like magic. I. This is where the AI is really going to be good. Like hey, do you want to watch Friends? But you really don't like whichever actress. Well, you could just swap in a new one. Yeah, that's going to be what Scaramanga will be doing. It's like magic. And in the newsletter I did laugh at the Tyler Brown piece, which was the book that just said bull crap, which very much in the JCD vein. And yes, I don't think anybody can hear bull crap at this point and not. Oh yeah, think of jcd.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And as I said, the treasure coming in today, a lot of donations. And Larry and I understand finally what it means when you say the spreadsheet got blown out.

[B]

Yeah, staring at that. Whoa.

[A]

Yes, again, guy with one eye here. So with the challenges on here. And then we'll have to try the. I am not going to be as fast with the clips as the podfather, especially since I've got to have that on the side screen because the only way I can read the spreadsheet is on the big screen. But we do have a bunch of people to thank today, starting with Matthew Hodsco, who came in from Orlando, Florida with a thousand $88 and 33 cents. Oh, that's magic numbers and JCD. Magic numbers indeed.

[B]

Indeed they are.

[A]

He says in the morning, John, Adam and Mimi. I'm sorry that this is what got me to finally donate, so I thought it was only appropriate to make it an insta night. I was at an in and out. I wish we had in and outs around here.

[B]

Oh yeah, they're great.

[A]

And was order number 33. I knew it was time, but I didn't know that Buzzkill had left us. I was catching up on the greatest podcast in the universe and started playing 1888 while working. That's how I found out the sad news. Please knight me, Sir Matt of the flight levels. To quote John with my favorite of his catchphrases, John, you really are dynamite. To the Dvorak family, you are in my prayers. Adam, congratulations to your family. Cleo is a gift from God. Fair skies and tailwinds. JCD Mar Matt Hosko. Well, thank you, Matt.

[B]

Thank you, Matt.

[A]

Coming in next, Alex Mandel with a thousand dollars. And there is a different note, so I click a different button. All the magic just kind of happens.

[B]

Oh, isn't that cool?

[A]

Sure, if it works. Oh, wait, I shouldn't have said that. Sorry, don't strike that. He says. Dear no agenda. I've been debating doing an instant night for a while and I kept putting it off because I wasn't sure if it was really worth it. I was okay living life as a douchebag and solely hitting others in the mouth. After all, you were just some guys that I listened to at work and in the car. Now that John has passed, I know just how wrong I was and how important both John and Adam have been in my life. An unreplaceable staple of entertainment, information and stories for the better part of the last decade. Love you both, Mina. And sending love to the Dvorak family and all of the other products of the no Agenda show Jingles, Alec Jones chemtrails. Frogs gay. Oh there, that has to be. Yeah, let's see. Frogs gay. Can I make this bigger maybe?

[B]

Frogs Gay.

[A]

I mean, I see there's a lot of. This is going to be such a learning curve, you know, I can probably just search frog. Frogs.

[B]

And really Adam is. Adam is like a symphony conductor with all these things. I don't know how he does this.

[A]

I don't either. It's like magic.

[B]

It really is.

[A]

I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin frogs gay. Adam was getting pretty good though with his Alex Jones voice too.

[B]

I will say yes. Yes.

[A]

And Sir Alex says please call out Chuck the Trucker. Now that's an interesting name as well.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Douchebag.

[B]

Oh, that was the call out.

[A]

Yeah. For Chuck the Trucker was a douchebag. So come on Chuck the Trucker, get on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And for the round table, a bowl of red Texas style chili from Green Bay, Wisconsin. That I'm still scratching my head, Alex, but I'll go along with you. The red Texas style chili and a protein powder White Russian. So I guess he's staying healthy while getting his.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Drink on. Not a bad idea. Sir Alex of the Floyd River Valley. And we thank you for your support of the best damn podcast in the universe. Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits came in with $888.88 and just says Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits, JCD you will be missed. And yeah, that is an understatement.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you want to take the next one?

[B]

Sure. We've got Sir Harrison of the Rednecks. Beaumont, Mississippi. Mississippi. Mississippi. Huh? 888. Hattiesburg, Mississippi. And let's see, what is he saying? Switcheroo. 500 of this goes to Sir Gopher Gold. God bless the Dvorak family. God bless the Curry family. You guys have been such a staple of my amygdala shrinkage diet. Love you mean it. NJ/NK. Commodore Sir Harrison of the Rednecks. You've got

[A]

karma. It is magic. It is, Sir Proteus, Newark, DE. 888. 88. And also no jingles, no karma. Well, thank you.

[B]

Yes, thank you, sir.

[A]

Give a little double up.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

Karma yeah.

[B]

Tammy and Spiro.

[A]

Oh, you'll go ahead.

[B]

Tammy and Sparrow from St. John, Indiana. 5.26.36 from Tammy and Spiro. Longtime listeners, two infrequent contributors. We love you. And JCD. God rest his soul and good luck in the future.

[A]

And again, no jingles. I'm loving these people, people.

[B]

Makes it easy, huh? You've got.

[A]

It's easy when it's only on the same one. That I don't have to find it. It's just there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Robert Weber from Trabuco Canyon, California.

[B]

I know that place.

[A]

Towards the resurrection slash reincarnation of John. Whichever gets him back. He was such an important part. Someone a little. A fellow. Fellow cranky old man can relate to. It'll be sad to hear new episodes without his voice. We echo that and. But he was cranky in such a good way.

[B]

He was. He really was. And you know, I was thinking. Thought a lot about him. He's. He was an acquired taste. You know. The more you heard, the more you liked. Really. And I think something about John that he had that so few people have. And I'm gonna say he's in the entertainment business. Cause he was for 18 years. Years. John was devoid of shtick. When you heard him talking. It was exactly who he is. You know what I mean? Very few performers. What you hear publicly is not what he's saying across the dinner table or when he's shaving his face in the morning. You know what I mean? It's kind of. There's a touch of a put on in there. But John was ridiculously honest and authentic, you know?

[A]

Absolutely. And there was no jingles in there. It was. Tammy and Spiro were 526.36. Robert Weber. $500.

[B]

Oh, I forgot the amounts.

[A]

Sorry. Karma.

[B]

Boom.

[A]

This is called two old guys. Get used to reading a spreadsheet.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

You want to do the next.

[B]

Sure. This would be Tim Hedrick, I guess. West Bradford, Pennsylvania. $500. Hi, Adam. I wanted to say I'm sorry for the loss of your friend John. I can't imagine what you're going through. Along with his family. I initially thought the news was fake or that I read the newsletter letter incorrectly when it went out about John's passing. I'm a little late to the no agenda party, but I was glad to find you guys when I did. Your chemistry was so great and complemented each other so well. I really don't know how you'd move forward. I don't envy your position because naturally people will Be mad or complain about whatever is next to you to work together with you. I actually bought a rodecaster during COVID and tried to do something with my wife. I even figured out how to clip stuff and have sound effects. It was fun and exciting because it was a new challenge for me. I've owned, operated this auto body business since 2012 and it sucks. Insurance companies suck. Yes, they do. Every day feels like an uphill battle. That's why you guys were great. I could get real news from you guys and. And then go home and tell my family to chill out about the doom and gloom. I've since listed my podcasting stuff on ebay, but would really like to get back into doing something with it. I'm kind of an idiot. You had mentioned the hyperlocal podcast thing before. Is there somewhere I can find more information about it? Where I live we have a trans mayor who says some wild things on the Internet. That's Downingtown, Pennsylvania. Good luck with everything moving forward. I wish you the best, Tim.

[A]

This guy is so brave doing a podcast with your wife. Adam Curry pulled it off a lot of people that could lead to divorce.

[B]

I wouldn't try.

[A]

Would not be good. My wife would not want to spend that much time talking to me. And then the things that I would find entertaining, you'd get that look like, no, no, that's not for. That's not for public interest. As far as the hyper local stuff, I mean, it's just cover your area. I mean, that's the beauty of it. You don't have to go out there with, hey, we're going to be covering the whole auto body business or we're doing this just do a podcast, name it about your town and start small.

[B]

And yeah, if you want to kind of browse or comb for, you know, possible listeners, you know that. That silly. No. What is it called? Next store platform might be a way. I mean, just about every town in this, in the country, I think is listed on there. You could, you know, plant some seeds there as a beginning, maybe get some

[A]

stickers or put some, you know, the local grocery stores here. I mean, we have a couple that are like the old fashioned grocery stores.

[B]

Oh, nice.

[A]

Still have like the peg, you know, board where you can.

[B]

Oh, lucky you. That's it.

[A]

If you live in a small town, it shouldn't be hard. Or just walk door to door and put a little fire and like listen to the podcast. Go here, go to get a podcasting 2.0 app. Either way, let us know if you start that up Tim. Because, I mean, if you need any help, I can help you out with that kind of stuff coming in. No jingles there. So

[B]

you've got

[A]

Karma. Next on the list, Jeff Kelly, rapier from Frankfurt, Kentucky, which is $500 was a check and no notes. So double it up.

[B]

Thank you, J. Kelly.

[A]

Double up Karma. Next is Victor Greg from Corvis, Oregon.

[B]

Isn't it okay, Corvallis? I'll. I'll buy that.

[A]

I mean, I. I know people every now and then were like, john can't get the names right. I'm like, I'm gonna be so much worse at getting the name sounds right. I need to cheat. I need to look him up. Have Grock give me an expl. The pronunciation on it. But Victor comes in with 40940 in the morning. Condolences from Baron Victor of the Willamette Valley. I started reading John's columns and seeing him on panels at tech shows during the 1980s. I met him more than once prowling the aisles. He was always good for a hello when I saw him.

[B]

Him.

[A]

And no jingles, no karma. So, okay, you've got karma.

[B]

Looks like we've got Quinterox Inc. Of Bradenton, Florida. $350.93. Goodbye, John Donation. He was like the father I always admired but never met. Wow.

[A]

There's a statement, the amount of people that were touched by John. And I get it. I mean, we only had a few emails going back and forth, but was a part of your life for well over a decade. And I remember going back to him giving Leo crap, which was always the best part of twit. And when he did the. It had to be cranky geeks where he would throw the little thing like the card like David Letterman was. And I'm like, oh, okay. It's okay to, you know, emulate things and make fun of them and. And rip off the bits from other people and kind of take it and make it your own. And that you get to. As they. Somebody pointed that out on one of those last two JCD episodes that, you know, he didn't know you, but you knew him. There's no doubt about it. So people. I didn't know him. It's like. But you did.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

It seems like he was the guy we hear in each one of those episodes that we had over the last 19 years. As you said, authentic, which is one of the biggest compliments Larry ever gave me early on was like, well, your podcast is authentic, and if you can do that, that is going to get you way further than trying to pretend that you're something else.

[B]

Else. God, yeah, Ray.

[A]

Javier coming in from Davis, California with $350.58 says in the morning. My wife and I were shocked when we heard of John's passing. He became the father figure we didn't know we needed. We've been listening to every no Agenda episode since 2021 and will always cherish what we had for twice a week. Sorry for being a douche for so long. Don't have to give him a de douching. You guys put on incredible performances weekend in and week out and the value generated was immeasurable. Whenever we drove up and down 80 and saw Albany Hill, we always wondered which house might be John's and thought it was so cool to hear no Agenda live while passing by our deepest condolences to Dvorak and the no Agenda family. And that comes from Ray. You've been de douched and you could take the next one there, please.

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All right, this is from Matt s. From Rosedale, New York, 34375. Dear Adam and the JCD family, May you celebrate the memory of life of a truly unique man. The stories, deconstruction and wisdom he shared made us feel as if we were all part of your family. I was out at a playground with my 3 year old son when I saw the news. It hit me with a profound sadness. I can't thank you both for all the years of the information you dispensed. It helped shape my worldview which I would never find anywhere else. Never underestimate your impact on us all. From my wife, our little guy and I, we want to send our love to JCD's family and friends, especially Adam as this must be incredibly hard. Thank you for turning me onto the show when I lived in Hoboken, New Jersey. Sir smokes a lot now in New Hampshire, Sir DJ Fuji and our dear friend who left us early and is with jcd, Super Steve. He is a knight but don't remember his name. This is my first donation as longtime listener. Please de douche me. You guys help get me through. You guys help get me through the chaos of coffee Covid. No jingles. Just five second pause to remember the cranky old man's voice. I'll miss hearing it. Eternally grateful Matt S now a family man in Queens.

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Okay, so we're de douching and then a five second pause. You've been de douched. Then E and J Electric coming in from Colorado Springs, Colorado with $300 in 88 cents and there's an attachment. That is a beautiful area. I haven't been there since I was 10 years old in a place called the Broadmoor with my parents. And now I probably can't afford it because I'm a podcaster. Just a beautiful area. And this was one of a very interesting donation note because it comes in which looks like it's an invoice from his company. But instead of invoice it says donation note with a reference of 33388 and I mean the whole, whole bit. And he says ad spot, but it's not really an ad spot. Howdy. This is Justin Robinson with ENJ Electric, your independent electrical contractor proudly servicing Colorado Springs and the surrounding areas. Why am I yelling? I don't get to pick my customers. So I thought that it would be nice if I could occasionally work with the fine people in the no agenda community. Find us at enj electric.com that's echo November Juliet electric.com shoot us an ITM and we'll get you hooked up. It says note. I've been telling myself that I need to get this donation out before one of you actually finds an exit strategy. My last donation was a handwritten note with one crisp hundo read by John back when you would read everything above 50 bucks. I'm not on the Internet much. My only knowledge of John was no agenda. I've never seen video clips of him and have only seen a handful of pictures. Well, you should go look for some of the videos. They're great. Great. This was a theater of the mind that I really enjoyed. Having listened to him for 15 plus years. My brain was constantly filling in the blanks. It's nice to hear everyone's stories as it helps to paint a more complete picture of jcd. Well, thank you very much Justin. It is appreciated. You want to do the next one there, Larry?

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We have Charles Neil from Austin, Texas. 333. 33 words fail me as I try to express my full appreciation for the show and my sadness for your loss. Maybe that's John's nudging me to keep it short. I wish I hadn't waited so long to reach my knighthood. But there's no time like the present to correct past mistakes. Henceforth, I'd like to be known as Sir Gopher Glory Accounting. Below, please hit me with a Mac and cheese jingle and a big bowl of it at the round table. Table. Thank you for your courage. I'd like my night name again to be Sergo for Gold.

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Few slaves can get used to Mac and cheese, Mac and cheese, macaroni and

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cheap cheddar melted together.

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Mac and cheese, Mac and cheese, Mac and cheese. There's so many clips on here. I can't believe how many Mac and cheese clips there are. Really hot father. How do you know which one's which? Chap Williams coming in from Edmonton, Oklahoma. 333.33 via a check with I guess no note. So no note, no jingles and we can double up.

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You've got

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karma.

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We have Vince Farrow. Wow. No, no address. Just this is a truly anonymous one. I guess. 3.15.85.

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I guess that's parts unknown. The epitome of that.

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I guess. So yeah, you've got

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karma. Then we got was night of the band Coonhound from Burlington, Connecticut. Oh, not far from Larry. $288 even says thank you JCD. I miss you, but my hope is to see you in heaven. That's sweet. No jingles, no karma.

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You've got

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karma.

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Andrea Ludlam from Holmes Beach, Florida to 80.74 RIP John, you've got

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karma. Oh no, the next one. We need Adam for the reading of Sir Remco Knight of Tisa.

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Tisa, I guess. Oh, look at this place.

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Paris Rotterdam and Sir Remco Knight of Tavista. And from being Barnes Rotterdam, as John's once said. Well, John said it was penis Rotterdam. Okay, that I believe. No doubt, because that's where exactly. Probably what I would have said. Of course. Of course he says. I had no idea that a man I never met and listened to more than my girlfriend. Girlfriend. Oh, don't tell her that, as she herself pointed out, would cause my eyes to leak this often. Dame Toothola and I have put John's picture on the wall of our office for guidance and much needed wisdom. And there's a message in Dutch for Adam that I'm not even going to try. And to Mimi and the kids, stay strong and thank you for all of your courage. Well, thank you Sir Remco. And I'm sorry for butchering your name and probably city.

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You've got

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Karma.

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Okay, Manuka Gold From Hudson, Florida. $250 from the Manuka Gold family. Just a donation to keep supporting the show. We hope Adam has a nice break and a reminder that code freedom for 20% off is still [e-mail] to celebrate America on her big 250th birthday.

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Well, thank you. I mean they actually acknowledged that they knew we would be the Yahoo's reading and they donated that.

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Cool. Yeah.

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Very much appreciate it. I hear their stuff's really good. I'll have to get me some.

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Yes.

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And coming in next, CJ Schmock from Nantucket. 250 with the note that says Worst Exit Strategy ever. You will be missed. And yeah, this is. This is certainly not the best exit strategy.

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No. Darcy Morris of Hanover, MA 238.88 this news sneakily hit me in the Feels sorry to hear about JCD sending 88.88 plus 50 for each of the three jamokes uttered since my last donation. Takes care, Darcy. You've got

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karma. Then Patrick D. Boot from what's It Must?

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Let's see, Muska Duboit, Musca, Duboit Harbor. Is that it?

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Nova Scotia? Well, I know it's Canada, so at least I've got the that, he says as I sit at the computer with a heavy heart, I struggle to type my thoughts and feelings. Both John and Adam have become mentors to me over the last six years or so. John was one of those people you could only come across every so often in life. I always admired his ability to articulate his opinions in such a clear and concise manner while keeping his cool for the most part. Oh yeah, there's Audio Eclipse. Whether I was hearing about another unique career he had or the clever use of a word I had never heard of, John never ceased to impress me. I had hoped one day to meet him in person. In a way, I feel like I had already done so through this amazing show. Rest in peace, JCD. Sincerely, Patrick and he came in with 236. 36. And I missed that because of the name of the state probably. And you can do the next one.

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David Powers from Bangkoki I don't know where this is, Darren. The initials are T.S. for the nation, Thailand. What's T.H. i don't know. T.H. i should know. Shame on me. David says.

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Hey y'. All.

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Sending all of the love and my sincerest condolences to amazing listening and reading so many wonderful accounts about John on NA&X and the positive impact he had on so many of us for so many years. Years. There's so much I want to say but in honor of John, will do my best to keep it short. I've been hitting people in the mouth for years, but this is my first monetary donation so please de douche me. I would also like to ask you for your all of your no Agendas family to help in getting my YouTube channel monetized. I'm getting there and every bit counts. I've spent the last year traveling to different cities, mostly Bangkok, Thailand and filmed POV walk and motorbike rides partially as a way to document these cities during these times, but also to give people from other countries a glimpse into what other people's day to day lives look like. They're great to have on in the background while you're working for the ambient environment, but there's always near things to see if you watch. I have plans to travel more when I finish my Thai language studies as well as new series for the channel exploring cuisines throughout Southeast Asia and beyond. Please check out my long format videos on YouTube go slow faster and short form videos on TikTok. Go slow faster and IG go slow faster. I also need karma. I'm sorry I also need jobs, karma and dealer's choice of a clip featuring John please love and lit David Pappy Powers, you've got

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jobs, jobs, jobs, Karma. Coincidence? I think not. Hey, that actually working? You know I noticed it in the troll room. I totally forgot to count the trolls. Oh how can I forget to count the trolls? Oh no. Train wreck. Right now we've got 539 nine people listening with a peak of 888. So I mean thank you to everybody. Yes, thank you for coming out to hear us try not to totally destroy Adam's intellectual property all in one quick afternoon. It is very much appreciated. We got those jingles and what do we got next?

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Michael Flynn I think from Spokane or Spokane as they say.

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Yeah, Spokane, Washington $218.89 in remembrance of John C. Dvorak. Then Clincy Galliano with parts unknown. $210.60 followed John since the PC Magazine days. Early 90s to me. I'm still in shock and tear up when I think about it. The first six hours of tribute were rough. I get that. I'm thankful for the 7 hour plus hours of clips to make me like laugh. Clint C. Galliano Realtor in South Louisiana. It's like I see with the with jc. I didn't know. I knew it was going to hit me at some point but it was just at the end of the pre show and again I know that was him having some fun with me.

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Sure. Jonathan Reisman Chesterfield, Missouri to $10.12 so sad to hear that JCD is no longer with us. My deepest condolences to Adam, the Dvorak family. Now my wife and I listen in twice a week. Thank you for all you do from Cody. Oh I just. I just skipped a line. I'm sorry. My deepest consoles is to Adam, the Dvorak family and everyone else who receives so much value from John and his work.

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Then John Wyden from Kodiak, Alaska. $200. So has continued heartfelt prayers for the Dvorak family. My son's introduced me to the show. Now my wife and I listen twice a week. Thank you for all you do all the way from Alaska. That must be fun.

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Linda Duparkin of Castle Rock, Colorado.

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Oh, look at Linda. Lou Patkin.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey Darren and Larry, thanks for stepping in big shoes to fill jobs Karma. For a competitive edge with a resume that gets Results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Imagemakers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Liu, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

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Jobs, jobs, jobs. Good old Joe Biden. That's exactly how he normally speaks too.

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That's it. Yeah. I was expecting Hillary but that was even better.

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It's like an all random day. That's the fun. Then Martin Menace came in with 199.02 with no jingles, no karma. So that is very much appreciated. I think we missed one on the the other one as well. You've got double up karma.

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Dame Stacy of Yellowstone county and the Black Hills. 198.91 in the morning. There's nothing I can say that already hasn't been said. John added so much to this world and will be greatly missed. Love and prayers to you all. Love and light. Dame Stacy of Yellowstone county and the Black Hills.

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Then we have Amanda from Minnesota. Minnesota with 198.89 donating has been on my I'll get to it list. I never imagined it would be under these circumstances. With deepest condolences. John was truly a fabulous product toasting his legacy with a terrific Kirkland wine. Cheers and thank you Amanda from Minnesota. And yeah, jcd I know he cost me money. My wife doesn't even like drink wine. But anytime he had a wine tip it was like I gotta go to Costco. We can, we can give him his gifts like okay. It's always costed me money.

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Here's one from Stir Strgalicious 18797 it Morning. My deepest condolences to Mimi, Adam and all the no agenda family. John will truly be missed. Njnk sir. Stregalicious. Yeah, I said it right. Stragalica.

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And coming in Next, Mark Cram with 1-888-8 says Adam, Mimi and family in the morning my son in law hit me in the mouth while he was recovering with us after having his appendix removed while on a business trip in 2020. That's no fun to begin with, but on a trip that's worse. Haven't missed a show since. Thank you for all the years of love and laughter. May God bless you and the show. John will be missed but his DNA will always remain in the enterprise. Guys, it's a good way to think

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about it that is. It's a cool phrase. Mark Cram 188.88 now we went oh

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no, you're on the Duke.

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I'm on the Duke. Oops my mess. Duke of San Francisco San Francisco US of course 166.99 the Duke of San Francisco is mourning the passing of JCD as Commodore of the San Francisco Bay Ide Declare a meetup at the Duke of Edinburgh in Cupertino at 5:33pm the

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duke.com and Joseph Stegman, Thousand Oaks, California came in with 12863 with no note which is really I guess it's the no note that we do the double up karma for.

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Yeah, I guess

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you've got double up karma.

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Mark McGough Benson, North Carolina Rest in Peace John. Sincere condolences to Mimi, Adam family and friends started listening during the Scandemic. Going to miss hearing John weekly God

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bless and the way I kind of thought about it earlier that no Agenda had the story a few weeks back of the girl, she had her license but when the the flight instructor jumped out mid flight and was just like you know what to do. That's kind of how I feel today. Lisa Mikowski coming in with one 1889 John put the C in counting cars on the Zephyr, Costco wine recommendations and cynicism mixed with charm. John put the C in cold reads and mispronunciations in the donation segments that made me smile. Mile John put the C in Clue and a clever one was with the January 12, 2025 horrible tip of the day which was a simple search revealed his true age. I've known since that that something didn't add up. Maybe he was trying to tell us something. Most importantly, John put the C in courage as in thank you for your courage. To Adam, Mimi, Jason, Jay and Brennan. The show Thursday was full of laughs and tears. Thank you for opening up your hearts, memories and raw emotions to the whole of Gitmo Nation and allowing us to share that with you. My deepest sympathies to you all. As you take on the challenge to carry on John's legacy. Well, thank you Lisa. And I didn't realize the must have been that true people search that John recommended. His real age was there. We could have known we would have

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just looked him up so easy. Valerie ray of Plano, Texas 114.69 and no no message, no jingles. Just thank you Valerie. You've got

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karma. That also goes for Samuel Thomas, Parts unknown with 105.69

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and Deborah

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Karma.

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Deborah Keenum 10535 I eagerly got in my car Friday morning ready to listen to the no Agenda show. On my way to work, I heard the opening and cried. I've been a listener for over two years. JCD brought humor and wisdom. He will be missed, but he impacted so many lives.

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Absolutely true. Thank you Andrew Grasso of Mineola, New York. My wife talked me into buying a starter home down the street from her parents and around the corner from her sisters and aunts. So this sounds like Everybody Loves Raymond. The type of home and neighborhood is not what I wanted for my life. But now I've begun to understand that we will never be leaving. With deference to John C. In his memory, please knight me, Sir Grass. So reluctant Night of Mineola at the Round Table. I request Manuka Gold, a surprisingly great cheese I discovered. Oh no, I'm sorry, it's a Maria Gouda. Yeah, I see bad eyes. I saw Manuka Gold. That's not right.

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I did too.

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A surprisingly great cheese that I discovered from Wisconsin, made by a Dutch immigrant. As for the wine sign, I'll let John C. Make the selection.

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Oh, it's cool.

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Signed Andrew Grass.

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So thank you Robert Stokes, no address 103 35. Rest in Peace John C. Dvorak.

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This next one. Michael Stepnicka, Vienna, Virginia A hundred dollars in the morning indeed. I really miss his analysis as well well as learning what he put the C in. My condolences to John's family and to you as well.

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Well, thank you Michael Dita and Jack Cumberland, Foreside, Maine. We were lost during COVID Then we were found because John and Adam were around. Their deconstruction gives us hope to understand news and not be a dope. Now John's crossed the threshold. He will sorely he'll be sorely missed. But the show must go on on or he will be pissed. RIP JCD love and light to all Dah and Jack Cumberland, Foreside, Maine.

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Felix Kichi comes in with $100 from Farmington, Connecticut. Rest in peace JCD. Your memory will Live on. Thank you for the laughter and the memories. Thank you Felix.

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Adam G. Hurst Heath Co Australia thank you both Adam. That's $100. Thank you both John and Adam for being part of my daily life for the past six years. Listening every morning on my commute to work. John's passing leaves a hole that can never be filled. Rest in peace John. CD Thoughts and prayers to Mimi and family.

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John Buell coming in from Vista, California with a hundred dollars. No not note so double them up. You've got double up Karma.

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Ezra from Brisvegas, Australia. 9482. Hello Adam, Mimi and family. My deepest condolences. I've been listening to Adam and John since 2014 thanks to Grimerica. Please de douche me for I have sinned. John was the father figure I never had. Man, we hear that a lot, don't we? Yes, the trusted friend I'd never met and the teacher I never knew I needed. He made me laugh every episode with his blunt wit and impeccable timing and I don't think there will ever be a time where I don't miss him. Please play John Spooky Donate jingle. He would probably have a chuckle at that. Ezra from Bris Vegas, Australia. You've got donate donate donate.

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Karma. Coming in next, Rose Richardson with 9482 and no note, no jingles, no karma. And I mean since we're doing that, we didn't need the practice anyway.

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You've got

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karma.

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Here's Dame Anne. 9482. I just found out about John's untimely demise. Na meant so much to me during COVID when I found getmonation and realized I was not alone in a world gone mad. John's legacy is far reaching and won't stop at his mortal passing. Love to all Dame M. Julie G.

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Coming in from Brighton, Ontario. 9388. My condolences to Mimi and the family and hugs to Adam. I am sad to hear of John's passing. It's 138.20 Canadian dollars, which is 88.88 plus $5 for fees. And of course John loved the eights.

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Yes he did. Wendy no no home no parts Parts as known as Darren said you made an incredible impression on me week after week. The no Agenda show is a safe place. It left an imprint on my heart that will never fade. Best podcast in the universe. Love and prayers Wendy, Hilo, Holland, Ryan,

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Caitlyn and Maggie from back Sellsville in Pennsylvania. That sounds Dutch as well, well, 9364. Which I'm guessing is 88. 88 with fees. We miss you, John. Praying for you all. Love, Ryan, Caitlin and Maggie. No jingles, no karma. Well, thank you.

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Leith Crooks. No address. I like everyone was shocked to hear of John's passing. My condolences to the Dvoraks, Currys and all the producers. I'm about three weeks behind so it will be bittersweet experience listening to his last remaining shows. The donation box asked for a favorite memory of John. And apart from his daily lessons and critical thinking, what sprang to mind was when Adam would make an exceptional quip that would crack John's scaly inter exterior. But there was always a small delay.

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Yeah.

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Before John's made an outrageous sounding laugh in the background. It would always be so unique and sound and I'd find myself rewinding the show to listen to it again. A testament to the relationship you two shared. Bits that made John laughter laugh would also make a great special show. RIP Buzzkill. Leith Crooks.

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Yeah, and I really believe they just did the show to make each other laugh, which is kind of what we do as well. I like it.

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Yeah, it's good. Charles

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Vittenheimer.

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Sounds right to me.

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93 64. No note, no car. So

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you've got

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karma. Thank you, Charlie.

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Bill LeClaire. Very sad to hear about John's passing. Oh, 9364, no address. Very sad to hear about John's passing. Condolences to his family and friends. He was loved by many and will not be forgotten. John responded to all four of my emails over the years. One to explain why he always said my name. Capital L, small A, capital C. He was a big fan of classic WC Fields, so. Oh my. Rest in peace, John. Bill LeClaire.

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Edward Yavno. Coming in with 9,364 and the sad emoji, which I feel you. Thank you.

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Yes. Elliot Lang, 9364. I worked in a Chicago computer store back in the early 80s and we all enjoyed John's PC magazine articles every month. I didn't like the mouse when it first came out either. I almost felt like I was betraying John when I got my first cereal mouse so long ago. I have followed John's career throughout the years and considered him something of an old friend. I will miss him. Elliot Lang.

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Yeah, a lot of people didn't. I mean he didn't say the mouse was not going to work, he just said there was no evidence, which there wasn't. I'm backing him on that one. Okay, Pat de came in with $93.64 says no words. He will be missed. Well thank you Pat is appreciated.

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Surplus of the consumer 9364 Surplus of the consumer here JCD read my dono on show 979. One of my proudest moments is making him say me likey grateful for JCD teaching me whipsaws and all the insider media tricks. Also is love, joy, peace, patience and of course course courage.

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Thank you Surplus. Then Ryan Young coming in with 9364 with no note in there at all.

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Okay, here's Darren O'. Hara. Is he a relative? Henderson, Nevada 9364 I know this will likely miss the 1889 cutoff, but things got busy and I still wanted to get this donation in. I had been saving for another executive producer credit, but it felt important to give something now to honor JCD and the greatest podcast on Earth. I remember listening to John on DH Unplugged, though for whatever reason I didn't find my way to no Agenda until after I saw that MTV guy on Rogan during the Pandemic. I'm glad I did. Thank you JCD and Adam for helping me get through this time and for the continued media deconstruction each week. And thank you to the Dvorak family for sharing JCD with With no Agenda Nation. John C. Devor, thank you for your courage. Godspeed. You will be missed.

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ITM Darren Garrett Morrison coming in with 9364. No note there so thank you very much. And then the next one is Sir Dwight the knight from Burlington, Ontario. 9,364 in the morning Adam and of course always John C. Dvorak. Sir Dwight the night here kneeling and heart fall. I couldn't believe the news when I heard it and I'm still having trouble. The show will never be the same and I will always listen. Well thank you Sir Dwight. You are absolutely correct.

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Stephen Mallon 9,364 whether going for a walk, run, driving, doing errands or falling asleep, the no Agenda show was my go to podcast since 2020. As a pharmacist you educated me since our institutions refused to do so. Please deduce me. Give me a break. I had ants.

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You've been de douched. Then Sir Alan of Midlothian coming in from Virginia 9364 says it was a great run for JCD. May he now rest in peace. Sir Alan of Midlothian thank you, Michael Strars.

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No address 9364 and no message.

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Then John Johnson from Goldsboro, North Carolina. 9364 says Ben A douche way too long. And long live John C. Dvorak. And we'll give you the deduching you've been de douched.

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Forbes Benning of London, Ontario. 9364. My sincerest condolences to the Dvorak and Curry families. What a consolation it has been to hear all the heartfelt love for John. He touched so many lives. JCD was with us for so long that we thought he was eternal. Well, now he is. Please accept this donation of 8888. Prayers were sent for John. Real prayers. Prayers to wish him well on his journey to the great meetup beyond. Godspeed, jcd. Sincerely, Forbes Benning.

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Surreal night of London Steve Carico coming in Parts unknown with 93.33 in the morning. Like many, I came to lean on John's deconstruction and yours to Adam. Over the years, that unmatched calm and realism put us all at ease. Thank you for everything. I'm embarrassed to say, but I'm in need of that de douching. Thank you, Steve, and with pleasure you've been de douched.

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Michael gilmore of Danville, California says now that you're upstairs. $90. Rather, now that you're upstairs.

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Actually, that's the next one. That's because there's two gray in a row. They're full.

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Oh, see, that's my colorblindness. He said nothing. Yeah, but thank you, Michael.

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And then Jackson Capisio Gilmore came in with 90 and says now that you're upstairs, would you ask the owner where the missing newsletters are and who decided the recipients? Who would the recipients would be? If he does not know, have him assist you with the debugging. You should finally have the ultimate sysadmin. Privilege is love. Jackson Capezio Gilmore and that. Like I said, 90 bucks, I think. But that reminded me of the. The ham Silent key tribute for John, which was very touching. I mean this is the computer guy thing where it's. Now you've got the full system admin, right? So if. If somebody's messing with my computer, I'll know who it is.

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Virginia Watts of Ketchikan, Alaska. Lady Valley 88, Lady Vox. Hello, Lady Vox 8893 because it's a prime number with double digits.

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Yeah, Eric, there's. Okay, there's extra. There's weird Characters.

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Yeah.

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S and weird. 0y.ex.exnoy. yeah, I'm going to go with xnoy. I don't know. 88. 80. You see, you thought John couldn't pronounce stuff. I really can't. And then I can't see it too. Twit donation, please. D Douche. I really miss you, John. Thank you for everything you did. And thank you, Eric. You've been de douched.

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Rocket of Brownsboro, Alabama, 8888. I was shocked to hear of John's passing and was also shocked to learn he was 80. He seemed so young, but still one of my favorite favorite OG Boomers. Love and prayers to the Dvoraks and Curry's Rocket.

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Paul Weigarn Schofer, I think. Weigarn Schoeffer. 88. 88. And no, no, thank you very much, Paul.

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Here's an interesting one because it's from my hometown. John Dave of Elmhurst, New York, 8888. No miss message. Thank you, John Dave.

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David Egan from Austin, Tejas. 8888 says, Rest in peace, JCD. Thank you.

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T whore. Is that four with a space?

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Okay, now that's a Dvorakism, if ever.

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Yeah. T hor Thor from North Sydney, Australia. Just got back from vacation and in shock. You two have been with me since 2008 and always felt like family. Heartfelt condolences to the entire Dvorak family. I'm devastated. Thor from Manly, Australia.

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Thank you, Thor. Dame Mary Paul Stewart from Seattle, Washington, 8888. In memory of John C. Dvorak. Where the C stands for celestial. God bless you, John. Dame Mary Paul Stewart. Thank you.

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Nathan Marshall. No address. 8888 8. We stand on the shoulders of giants.

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Very true. Joseph King coming from Dakula, Georgia, 8888 in the morning. Adam and JCD family. It is with great sorrow I send in this donation in the memory of John C. Dvorak. I will keep this note brief so John doesn't get too grouchy up above, but I hope to express the immense impact that the no Agenda show has had on my life. I have been a listener since Adam's first jre appearance, but never donated any treasure. Please de douche me you've been de douched. The media deconstruction, thoughtful commentary and humor of the show has been a steadfast companion to me these past few years and has been such a positive influence in my life. Life. After meeting my now wife Anna, I soon hit her in the mouth and can attest that it is true that those who know Agenda together stay together. Both of us are devastated at JCD's passing and we send love and prayers to his family and the rest of no Agenda Nation. Heading to Costco now to find a cheap Bordeaux in honor of John. I'll be Costco should be paying the clan.

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Thank you Joseph Andre Harselhorse and Van den gorberg of Alphin, N.L. netherlands, Netherlands okay, thanks for everything R.

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John C. Devor yeah 8888 on that one and on this one from Luis lancaster and it is 8888. I love lovely JCD. Where will we be? Thank you, thank you, thank you Louise

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Sir Jerry Carl the Night of All Things Greasy, North Carolina. Jerry Carl There we go. How did I miss that? All Things Greasy Raleigh, NC 8888 John and Adam have brought something incredible to this world. I can never thank you enough for what John's columns, no Agenda and the no Agenda family have given me. God bless you Mimi and God bless the Dvorak and Curry families. Rest in peace jcd. Sincerely, Ryan Smith Sir Jerry Curl the Night of all things greasy, Raleigh, NC and P.S. thanks for bringing the word specious back into my life. It's a fun one.

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And Jordan Frazier coming in with 8888. Rest in peace JCD. The skills you guys have passed away Don have equipped me for life, enabling me to recognize the bull crap. A truly immeasurable benefit. Well, thank you Jordan.

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Dude named Muhammad, no address 8888 from dude named Muhammad.

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Then Scott Penton coming in from Tanawanda, New York 8888. And then Eric Mackey coming in from Blairsville, Georgia also with 8888.

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Okay, anonymous from Newcastle upon Tyne in Great Britain. 8888. Dear Adam and the Dvorak family Just listened to Adam's opening in 1888 and it provided a needed release. I was sobbing. Found out when I read the newsletter. Thought it may be a joke. It's hard to describe what an impact this has had on me. As an old graybeard named Ben, I followed John since his early days on Twitch and Cranky Geeks as he flung those cards. Pew pew. Jingle please. I will miss his curmudgeonly ways, his wit and sharp insight and he just plain made me laugh. I would like to be knighted. Sir Moore bot a call back to the place I grew up and spent many happy hours playing as a child at the Round Table. I would like a pint of Rig welter and a giant Yorkshire pudding filled with onion gravy please. Just for random info, Ecla Moorbot refers to the unofficial anthem of the county of Yorkshire in the uk literally on Ickley Moore without a hat in the local dialect. It's a sad tale of a young lover courting the bleak Moore and his potential death from exposure without the proper headgear. Lovely. We sang this in Primary School. A 737 sized hole in your heart is truly apt. My thoughts are with you all. Soon to be Sir Moore bottom at

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Anonymous and I believe this is the jingle. I think that's it. I I know there's others sounds like that sound like pew pew yeah spin I'm spinning place. Welcome to the Round Table. Next up, Sir Rob Baron of Greater Limberg coming in with 8888. Thanks John for all the great shows. No jingles, no karma. Sir Rob Baron of Greater Limburg.

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Sir Glenn of Raleigh, N.C. 8888. My condolences to Dvorak family and Curry family. I will surely miss John but hope the show continues. Media deconstruction thanks njnk Ryan Wolf coming

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in from Covington, Virginia. 8888 says Dear Dear Adam, John's family and the no Agenda donation. I've been following John for over three decades now. In the early 90s, in the back of the computer magazines I used to sit and read at Barnes and Noble. John C. Dvorak was there during the golden years of tech TV before it went stupid. Oh you did? Jon was there on Leo's podcast in the earliest days when they still called them Netcast. Jon was there. The cranky geeks no Agenda and DH Unplugged. John was there. I'm nine episodes behind the show for so for me, John is still there. I think I'll hold those few episodes for a rainy day, knowing that John and Adam will still be there. One of my favorite Doctor who lines sticks in my head. The Doctor says something like every time that you see people happy, you remember how sad they're going to be later. And it breaks your heart. What's the point of being happy now if they're just going to be sad? And the answer of course is because they're going to be sad later.

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Later.

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This feels true right now. We always got the happy. Now it is time for the sadness. I never got to meet John or any of you. Never shook hands or shared a meal. But after all those years of listening John and Adam allowed me to feel a little part of their family like a little part of their family. John stories, the way he talked about technology and the industry and the bits about everyday life. Life let me share in some of the happiness and camaraderie. It's a real gift and one that death doesn't get to take away. Through all the crazy years, the endless news cycles, the pandemics, the AI panic, the climate alarms, the constant sense of imminent doom, John and Adam wore a steady hand on the tiller. Especially during the 2020 Covid times when the media was pouring out panic and fear and doubt. The two of you were a stabilizing voice of reason. That meant a great deal to me and I imagine it did for a lot of other people too. I can ditto that. And that's Brian Wolf. Thank you very much.

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Okay. Jeffrey Sarkisian from Dollar Day or Mule in in Canada 8888. My deepest sympathy. These Scott Simon jingle.

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Please don't ask me to speak the Scott Simon. Yeah, don't ask me to speak French. That's. That's not gonna happen.

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Suffer and succotash. I'm Scott.

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Simon. Gary Ca. Tulsa, Oklahoma 8888 with no note. This then Bob Rathmell from Santa Isabelle. Is that California?

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Yes.

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8888 as well. Thank you very much.

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Spencer from San Francisco. 80.08. I too have never before cried like this about someone I never met six hours a week. What a gift your show and John has been for me. The clip show today was very healing. God bless. From Spencer and S.F.

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and then there he is, Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina with 8008. That's right. 1890 B O O B donation. Archduke of Luna, Lover of America and boobs.

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John Albertini Alberini. $70.26. No place, no message.

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Chris Dumanor from Brooksville, Maryland. That's Maryland. Mary. Yes. I need to go back to geography school. I guess he says thank you for substituting. I am a mother pheasant. I plug mother pheasants. I am the most pleasant mother pheasant plucker to ever pluck a mother. See, I guess he wants to attest the new guy guy and if he can read and do tongue twisters and. And well, it'll get a good ISO. But thank you, Chris.

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Yeah. Les Tarkowski of Kingman, Arizona. I know that town is pretty cool. $60.06. No message.

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That's that old Route 66 isn't it.

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Oh, it's a great town. It, it really is cool. I like it a lot.

[A]

Which may be Disney 6006 maybe. Christopher Lee coming in with 59, 40, 40. So sorry for your loss, Adam and family of JCD. Thank you for your dedication to the show. I miss hearing your stories and thoughts on what's happening each week, but hope the show continues on in your memory. Sorry it's only 88.88aussie dollar bucks. Oh, don't be sad about that. It's a beautiful thing. Thank you Christopher for your contribution and for listening and supporting the best damn podcast in the universe. Universe.

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Surprise night of astonishment From Yukon, Oklahoma, U. S 5444, no message. Nathan Gwynn of Jackson, Tennessee, 5272. No message. Foster Birch of New York, New York, 5272. No message.

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Then Philip Custer coming in from Rosendal, Netherlands. 5272. Sorry to hear of John's passing while on holiday in China. China. I really enjoyed his contribution. Hope you can help each other with this loss. Well, thank you.

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Philip Abraham Roots, Sunnyville, California, $50.88. No message.

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And then we have the 50s. Here we have Aaron Wise Gerber from bend, Oregon with 50k. Oh wow. Do you want to take that one?

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Katrina von Tujil, Katrian Vod. I think so. I'll, I'll go with that. Maybe it's fake. My, my pronunciation, that is. Rotterdam, Netherlands, $50.

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Richard Garnier for $50. Steven Streeter, South Jordan, Utah, $50. Mike Toll, Memphis, Tennessee, $50. My thoughts are with you, Adam. Rest in peace. John Paul Nil

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NI, $50. Yeah. Terence Clark, Jacksonville Beach, Florida, $50.

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Joshua Johnson, Omaha, Nebraska, $50. Nathan Noel from Nederland, Texas. Nederland, Texas, $50.

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Sounds good. Tony Lang, Castle Pines, Colorado, $50. George O, New Brunswick, New Jersey, $50. And birthday July 25th.

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And Sir Michael from Snomish, Washington, I thought by Memros, I think.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Coming in with $50. And that brings us to the end of another very touching list. I mean I love hearing what everybody is remembering about JCD and all of the, the good things. It's a hard thing to go through, but not. Man, you want to talk about leaving a legacy. There is no doubt leaving a huge legacy behind.

[B]

Yeah.

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So now we do the, I guess birthday. We got birthdays, we got meetups, we got knightings, and for the nightings we have a. A layaway nightingale here. So there was no name in here. My husband and I have donated 3,333 since 2020 I got my dame ship. I think my calculations are correct, but I think five years and one month in My husband should be a knight. Can Bruce be Sir Bry of Indie and have Chicago style and a spicy red hot sausage at the round table? If still applicable, bowl a Make good nighting on episode 1888. I achieved knighthood with a 333 donation. I request a jingle that didn't get played. I wanted to hear Adam fist bump in honor of JCD's frequent. Yeah, no, I hear John and the jingle in my head sometimes I or anyone around me says yeah, no. Is there. Yeah. No jingle. Let's see here.

[B]

Here,

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there's a Leo. Yeah. Know.

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Yeah.

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No.

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Yikes.

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No, that's not. No. No, that's not. Yeah. I apologize. I don't have the vast knowledge of these. These clips here. I also want to note a change in my knighthood. I requested to be called Sir Loud Neighbor Night of the Los Hills, but that was hasty and I'm not technically in the Lowe's Hills and I had to get my note in quick. So if a change is possible, I'd like to be known as Sir Loud Neighbor Night of Winter Quarters. It would be greatly appreciated. He's from Omaha, Nebraska, and a Make good night for Chris Fulford and he wants a mud flat report jingle and I don't. Yeah, I'm not sure. There's nothing with flat or mud. Oh, is there a report? There's a. No. I mean, there's a weekly hooker report, but I don't have.

[B]

Put that in instead.

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That'll.

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That'll work. Is that.

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Is that just as good? I don't know.

[B]

That might be better.

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Oh my.

[B]

I love it. Yeah.

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That had to do something with jcd and it had to be. That's. I. I don't even remember that one. How far back does that go?

[B]

I like that. It's good.

[A]

First off, I would like to give my deepest condolences to the entire Dvorak family. Knowing how much Jon meant to so many didn't share his name, I can imagine what kind of solar system size hole that has been left at the family table. I will keep every member of the no Agenda family in my prayers as y' all sort out the after Onward, Mary. Jcd. I've been listening to no Agenda since somewhere in the mid-800s. I had just recently lost my father to unexpected health concerns or Sorry to hear hear that. So the show quickly filled a hole that I didn't know was there two men who knew stuff and were happy to tell me all about it? I was hooked immediately. I started out not caring too much for Josh because he was such a buzzkill. I was all in with all the crackpot stuff Adam brought for the second half of show and I couldn't stand it when Jon would poo poo Adam's latest deep dive As I age from a young man to a proper adult in quotes Listening to the show, I began to see the wisdom in a lot of what John had to say and began to actually look forward to what his thoughts would be on many subjects. No matter that I'm not. No doubt I'm not the only one. Over the many years of having John and Adam at my side as I'm driving around town fixing houses and acquisitions seas, I have probably picked up more worthwhile life wisdom than I have ever gotten from the people who should have gave it to me when I was younger. I was always aware of that, but for some reason that never clicked in my head as value. Yes, I am a douchebag. Oh, we gotta do a oh that's a yeah, we gotta de douche. You've been de douched. I always measured my value received by some of the metrics that Adam likes to mention. I'm mildly introverted, so I rarely use any information from the show in general conversation. I'm not financially savvy enough to profit from the information, and the closest I ever came to feeling compelled to donate was when the Hat Song made its debut. That's such a great song.

[B]

It is.

[A]

Needless to say, I took this for granted and I'm deeply remiss that it took the pat passing of one of my all time favorite people to really understand that. I'm also one of the maybe not so few people that actually got the newsletter but never opens it. So I was blindsided by that truck that John loves so much. When I opened my podcasting 2.0 compliant app and saw the COVID art, I'm man enough to admit that I cried for at least two hours in my work van on Friday morning. Oh, I feel you brother. When John made it home from the hospital, I realized how important you guys are to my life and I promised myself that I would get on a recurring program as soon as I got my finances in order. Well, John, being the master that he is, got me to pull out of my savings account to make this Palindrome instantite donation of 1088.01plus fees in his honor. I still plan to get on that recurring program at some point but for the time being please. Oh don't deduce me. Wait, wait. And if you've already deduced me then I preemptively call myself out as a douchebag. I love the no agenda producers. I really do. Really? You? I have to. We have to night you today and douchebag.

[B]

Yeah, twice.

[A]

I'll probably return to my douchebaggery for a while while seeing as residential H vac mechanics don't make as much as one might think Unless you are willing to wear a white shirt and lie to grandmothers. But I digress. Oh, I bet you you have stories brother. Yeah, the Lord provides all. So I am perfectly happy with everything already at the round table. Thank you for my night name. I would like the moniker to be Sir Christopher the dog headed for jingles. I have either or request. Mimi, if you are still in John's studio can you give us one last mud flats report for the old time sake? If you already have the studio seal as a time capsule to open in 30 years. You know I could actually see John requesting that.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Then I would like a nice pregnant pause. Also known as a moment of silence for the legend that will always be be John C. Dvorak. Thank you for all. Thank you all for everything you do for get monation Love is lit and we have the knightings to do so. I mean you. Did you get a sword for the. For the knightings?

[B]

I did not.

[A]

Oh well here.

[B]

Oh thank you.

[A]

I'll try this.

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I'll take that one. Yeah, get that one. Oh that's nice. Smooth.

[A]

And we've got a whole list here. We've got Linnae hall becoming Dame Uliani. Mira Keck becoming Dame of Thai Chicks. Matthew Hosko becoming Sir Matt of the flight levels. Alex Mandel being coming. Sir Alex of the Floyd River Valley. Charles Neal Sir Gopher Gold. Andrew Grasso becoming Sir Grace reluctant Knight of Mineola Anonymous becoming Sir Moore Bot Ot. Colin McCarthy becoming Sir Loud Neighbor Knight of the Winter Quarters. Bruce becoming Sir Bru Akey of Indy. And Chris Fulford becoming Sir Christopher of the dog headed. And what we need you to do then is. Come on up everybody on the stage. Is this stage even big enough? And I think so. We want to pronounce the gate you as knights and dames of the no agenda show. I mean I don't know if I have the. The. The proper coverage to do that but I guess you know and until further known how. But thank you for your support of the no agenda show in the amount of a thousand dollars or more and we are very proud to pronounce. It took me a long time to realize he was saying pronounce the category rather than pronounce the.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And we've gotten all the for the usual. You've got hookers and blow, rent boys and Chardonnay and then mutton and me to ginger ale and gerbils, bong hits in bourbon and all the other good stuff stuff that comes with it. Head over ToNoEnda rings.com. that's where you can find all the information on getting your very handsome no Agenda night dame signet rings. Send them the ring size and address. They get it out to you along with some ceiling wax and a certificate of authenticity. And thanks to everybody for supporting the best damn podcast in the universe and becoming a knight or d game of no Agenda. And we appreciate you putting up with us being the the one guys. Yeah, the fill in guys to to do that for you. And then we do have a couple of birthdays. We have George O. On July 25 and Arno would like to wish Sebastian a very happy birthday. He's turning 35 on July 30th and we hope y' all have a darn good time. And yeah, then there's. There's meetups.

[B]

Meetups.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah. Connection is absolutely protection when it comes to the no agenda meetups. And there is a long list of them coming up. Before we get to the Spicewood Meetup report, we have Thursday, July 30th. Well, that's today. The North Idaho Sanity Brigade summer meetup at 5pm Pacific at trains and Brewery and the Brick Oven Pizza Pizza in Court Delane, Idaho. And the organizer, Sir Scott the Jew.

[B]

July 30th. Oh, I'm sorry.

[A]

Perfect. You can do that. I'll grab the other audio File here.

[B]

Sure. July 30th today, North Georgia RIPJCD meet up at 6 o' clock Eastern Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. Organizer Sir Bob 30th July urgent poor pour out one for JCD meetup, 6pm Eastern Saints and Schol Raleigh, North Carolina. Organizer JD Jeffers. Wanna keep going with these, Darren?

[A]

Yes, if you could.

[B]

Okay. On Friday, July 31st, ABE's Bay Area Exit Strategy Meetup at 5:33pm Pacific. The Duke of Edinburgh Pub in Cupertino, California. The organizer is ABE on also Friday the 31st, JC Celebration of Life at 6:00pm Central at the Barley Oak in Mandeville, Louisiana. Organizer is Dame Rachel. Also on Friday, the Calgary meetup at 7pm Mountain. That's the Lenox Irish Pub, Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Organizer is Melvin Gibstein. Saturday, August 1st. Remember and celebrate JCD at 2pm Eastern at the March 1st Brewing Company in Cincinnati, Ohio. Organization organizer is Baron Fox Hat. Sunday next show August 2nd, JCD and memoriam at 33pm oh, sorry. 3:33pm north of Toronto time. All Star Wings and Ribs in Vaughan, Ontario, Canada. Organizer is Bishop.

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Yeah, then there's a long other list of things coming up from all over the world from Ketchikan, Alaska to Oklahoma to Australia to Texas to Florida to Thailand and even the UK all over the place. Just go to no agendameatups.com for that information. And we do have a meetup report the JCD meetup from Spicewood, Texas on July 25th. This is Logan from Spicewood.

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It's my first meetup and I'm happy

[A]

to be here, but sad to see John go. He brought so much insight and knowledge

[B]

and entertainment the past few years that

[A]

I've been listening and I will continue listening as much as I can. I brought my three human resources here that you'll hear on this and I

[B]

Our admission here cost 33.30 today.

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So it all comes together.

[B]

Chickens are gonna be the best thing in the world. Don't eat meat boats, iodine. You're scary.

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So in the morning, sending love and

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lit from the Turner family of New Braunfels, Texas. We are so excited to have been here today to enjoy this lovely day. Meeting some super cool people in no

[A]

agenda royalty like Sir Ducifer and Brian with an Eye who has merch and Scott and it's been wonderful with all of our families and friends in this beautiful day.

[B]

You created this, John, and it's beautiful

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and we love you for it. We're gonna miss you and this is devastating.

[B]

Here's our son, Holden.

[A]

I just want to pray that the Lord be with your family and that he blesses you abundantly and infinitely.

[B]

Hey John, I was reading your columns when I was in middle school in the mid-80s. I still agree that OS2 was better than Windows. I've watched you on CNET and TechTV and I've listened to a no agenda for the last 15 plus years. You will be missed. I don't know how I'm ever gonna know what Costco wine to buy for my wife. John, we love you and miss you

[A]

and I hope they give you a hoodie up in heaven.

[B]

This is Viscount Scott of the Armory and Keeper Christine saying farewell to our great friend John on our 10th wedding anniversary. We took the jaunt to California and berated jaunt and actually had JCD Jr to get him to go out to lunch with us. So we got to spend an entire day with lunch.

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And surprisingly, one of his favorite topics

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at lunch was his Android phone. Things changed. We even got to see the Lexus. Life's not going to be the same. Life will go on. My prayers are out to the family, John, Adam and everybody. We're gonna miss you, John. Hey, this is sir Brian with an eye. We miss you, John. We're out here celebrating your life, doing some swimming and grilling. I was at the store this morning getting food for everybody and I wanted to see if I could find something with a 33 on it, like a cool bottle of hot sauce or something. But the only thing I found was a 33 pack of maxi pads and I figured he already had enough to eat. Sir Difer.

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Hey, John Adam. Definitely.

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I don't know if this is more for John or Adam at this point because. We have a wealth of stories and advice and information from John going back 18 years and that's what we should be celebrating.

[A]

We love you guys and we're glad. And it's way too long.

[B]

Sir Brian.

[A]

With that I was looking at me like, yeah, this just might not make it the cut. Would you agree?

[B]

That's probably where I'm going to end in the morning.

[A]

Yeah. If you want to be a part of a no agenda meetup, I highly recommend recommend it. And the. The long audio was appreciated because I'm still loading up the end of show mixes. Go to no agenda meetups.com even our buddy sir Eli the coffee guy. Is he a sir yet? Eli the coffee guy got me to go to a meetup back in March. So yeah, I do leave the house every now and then. Not. You can't believe everything Bemro tells you. That is absolutely true. Again, no agenda meetups.com connection is, is protection. And this is the reason why we are filling in and having a train wreck because you just couldn't have silence for a few weeks. So we appreciate everybody kind of following along with us. When we were talking to Adam, Larry's like, yeah, you know, it's. It could be a train wreck. And he's like, I expect it to be. That's the fun part of it. And part of what they do is doing an ISO for the end of the show. And so I, I have a few here that I thought might work. And one is this one. Go back to playing your Harpsichord citizen. Everything is well. Which after this show they might need that.

[B]

The only harpsichordist I ever knew was Lurch from the Addams Family.

[A]

That's a. Was a great show.

[B]

Yes, it was.

[A]

Or I'm thinking even though it's long and it wouldn't be something that Adam would do, it's too long. Long. I think this might be the two for to end today's show. It's not going to work out. You're so fucking fired. That's not AI. That's real. But I think. I think that may be what we. What we need to do. But we thank everybody for hanging out with us. It's been a. A whole lot of fun. We have. Let me.

[B]

I'm.

[A]

If I can find loaded everything up. Adam makes it look easy. I swear, the guy looks. He makes it look easy.

[B]

He's a sorcerer.

[A]

He is. He is also from the future. No doubt about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The next thing coming up on the mighty no Agenda stream is curated by Sir Ryan Benrose is DH Unplugged. Remembering jcd. So you want to stick around for that one. We have end of show mixes from Sir Chris Wilson. He's out of retirement. I'm excited. Leo Lepuke, Sir Ty and Secret Agent Paul. All of I think two. Three of those I think are no AI or maybe all of them. So that is very much appreciated when the producers take the time to. To do the real thing.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Until next time. Coming to you live just outside of Chiraq, right here in FEMA region number five in the morning, everybody. I am Darren o' Neill and from

[B]

Pretentious, Connecticut, I'm Larry Bleidner. We'll be back here on Sunday.

[A]

Yeah. Please join us and remember us at no Agenda donation. Until then, Adios Mofos and such. The best podcast in the universe.

[B]

Adios, mofo. Did you know boobs are proof?

[A]

Men can focus on two things at once? That's a good one.

[B]

I like that one. That's a good one.

[A]

It's observation. Yeah, it's observations.

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Tall and 10 and young and lovely the girl from Gitmonation goes walking and when she passes each goat she passes goes. When she walks it's like a samba with jiggly booze and small amygdala. When she passes, each goat she passes goes.

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I want to give her some karma.

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I want a night her so badly so I go and ask for her number which she writes on some paper for me. I read it back, she wrote 33. Tall and 10 and young and lovely. The girl from Get Monet she goes walking but when she passes she doesn't see my douchebaggery Cause I listen for free. We miss you Jessie Dean. Miss you guys. Who could light the the world up with his scowl

[A]

who could make you laugh out loud by listening to him

[B]

grouch and growl now it hurts to know as he leaves through that door Acknowledging that there's no more to Vorac now we've turned a page we cannot turn back Nothing is the same without Du Forag Nothing's gonna be the same again Nothing's gonna be the same again

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Come gather around Gitmo Nation Let me tell you the tale of a man born in 1952.

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Now you cannot doubt that date because the New York Times reported it so

[A]

therefore it must be true. Regardless the year it was April 5th. To a mom who raised him right, always aware of the threat of the Chinese to their toilet paper. The man, the myth, the legend.

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John C. Dvorak, JCD From El Cerrito

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High School to Berkeley College, Though in the belly of the liberal beast, he

[B]

emerged wiser than most, his eyes still open to see oft known to roll out an Alexis vintage like his wine.

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In his youth, we are told, he was a biker roaming the world on a Kawasaki Triple.

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No matter how cold the weather may have been, the Casanova to all would

[A]

approach the ladies as only he could

[B]

with his classic pickup line that always works. If you need proof that it worked,

[A]

look no further than me.

[B]

John C. Dvorak where the sea stands for Crankiest of Geeks where the sea shows his discerning taste and clip of the day where the steed could stand for flipping the whipsaws or Chick Magnet. Where the steel stands for Colonel of the Commonwealth of Kentucky, the polymath of all men. He has done it all, be it

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summer jobs at construction are protecting us from climate change. As a pollution inspector, he excelled. He knew crude oil from the heavy

[B]

sweet of South America to the light sour of the Middle east and all

[A]

the hydrocarbons they emit. In the end, the only reason San Francisco still has mud flats today is his diligent, watchful eyes.

[B]

Remember Knights and Dames?

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He did all this while the Zephyr

[B]

rolled by, fighting off Barbara Boxer's advances each day. Later, he would conquer all technology, be

[A]

it InfoWorld, PCMag, Market Watch, Forbes, TWIT, both times, NY and LA.

[B]

He ruled them all with a wit none could match. Then one day his partner, Adam Curry put an MP3 in an RSS container and.

[A]

And that's where the magic happened.

[B]

In the morning, podcasting and no agenda were born. Deconstructing the world to shrink all the amygdalas. He brought peace and smiles in times

[A]

of crisis so we would not lose hope.

[B]

We love you, John.

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You're gone too soon. Karma.

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John C. Dvorak where the C stands for Choosing Tip of the Day Created by by Dana Brunetti. Where the C stands for Choosing Stocks with Horowitz. Where the C stands for Costco. Now let's gather at the round table, knights and dames, one last time for

[A]

some mutton and mead.

[B]

We've shed our tears and now it's time to to do as JCB would want us to. Because we all know if John's ghost were here today, there's only one thing he would say.

[A]

Donate. Donate. Donate.

[B]

What day of the week is it today?

[A]

What color tie are you wearing?

[B]

What color is the carpet in front of you? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights

[A]

under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. With the Fifth Amendment. With the Fifth Amendment. With the Fifth Amendment. With the Fifth Amendment. The Fifth to the Fifth.

[B]

I respectfully decline to answer based upon

[A]

my rights under the Fifth amendment to the Constitution.

[B]

Well, nothing says honesty like taking the Fifth.

[A]

Doctor Fauci, thanks so much for joining us. Good to be here, bro.

[B]

The best podcast is

[A]

Adios, mofo. It's not gonna work out. You're so fired.