1891 - "We Need Memes!"

Summary

No Agenda Show – Episode 1891: "We Need Memes!"
August 2, 2026
Hosts: Darren O’Neill & Larry Blidner (guest hosting for Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak)

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Episode Overview

This episode of the No Agenda Show, guest-hosted by Darren O’Neill and Larry Blidner, continues the tradition of sharp, irreverent media deconstruction following the passing of co-host John C. Dvorak. The show features reflections on JCD's impact, critical analysis of hot media topics like press malpractice, AI fears, social media APIs, political culture wars, the immigration crisis (in the US and Spain), and the erosion of civic engagement among Gen Z. True to No Agenda’s roots, it’s packed with clips, robust banter, audience engagement, and the signature satirical tone.

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Reflections on JCD & the Power of Podcasting

[00:48 - 04:21] Tribute Clip & Global Impact

• The episode opens with heartfelt global tributes to the late John C. Dvorak, including a viral segment where Australian radio host Sarah Harris recounts weeping over John’s passing:
  • “It feels like a death in the family...you know someone and that other person has no clue who you are.” ([03:14], Sarah Harris)
• Darren notes the outpouring validates the powerful, often unseen reach and personal connections built through podcasting.
• Larry and Darren warmly acknowledge the challenge and honor of filling in, reminding listeners: “We are not trying to replace Adam or John.” ([00:51])

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Deconstructing the Media: Press Malpractice & Political Sideshows

Clip of the Day: "Press Malpractice" & Media Dissent

[04:31 - 07:56] RFK Jr vs. Press

• Darren and Larry analyze a fiery exchange where RFK Jr. accuses CNN’s Dana Bash of “press malpractice” for stifling dissident medical voices around Covid.
  • Notable quote: “You weren’t allowing your... your job is a fierce skepticism toward authority, and you weren't doing that. You were beating up.” ([05:46], RFK Jr.)
  • Larry: “There might be a show title in there, Darren. Press Malpractice.” ([06:16])
• They argue media figures fail to challenge powerful interests, resorting to “beating up dissent.”

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Political Deconstruction: Bernie Sanders, Capitalism & Hypocrisy

[08:00 - 18:51] The “Pillory Pageant,” Bernie Sanders, and Leftist Contradictions

• Larry pitches a No Agenda “Pillory Pageant” for public shaming of political villains, with Bernie Sanders as his first “nominee.”
• Clips feature Kennedy (Fox News) dissecting Bernie as a “cult leader”:
  • “They don’t have a rational capacity… everything has to be subjective, about your feelings.” ([10:06], Kennedy)
• Bernie’s “three residences” gaffe and explanation of his wealth as the result of “bestselling books on capitalism” is met with ridicule.
  • Darren: “He was against millionaires until he was outed as a multimillionaire. Then he became against billionaires.” ([12:20])
  • Larry: “All these commies—why don't they give all their extra money to the government?”
• Dave Rubin and Michael Savage impressions underscore the irony of anti-capitalists using capitalism to enrich themselves.
• Larry: “I want there to be someone out there to destroy [AI], to just immolate it.” ([51:36])

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Tech & Market Deconstruction: Truth Social API, AI Hysteria

“Inside Information” & Media Manipulation

[20:45 - 34:12] Truth Social API Hysteria

• The hosts dissect outrage over the Truth Social API, with politicians and pundits (Sen. Chris Murphy, David Pakman) accusing Trump of “insider trading” and “selling the presidency.”
  • Darren clarifies: “This is not getting private information others don’t get. This is just a split-second faster.”
  • “Donald Trump is literally setting up a formal process by which you can pay him a bribe in exchange for information no one else has.” ([29:41], Sen. Murphy)
  • Larry’s superpower: instantly spotting rug-wearing politicians ([21:30])
• They note other companies (like X/Twitter) offer similar firehose APIs, and that the outrage is largely performative.

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AI Out of Control? Hype vs. Reality

[39:15 - 64:20+] AI Fears, Script Kiddies, Dating Bots & Regulation

• Multiple clips from NBC, CNBC, France 24, and user anecdotes detail how AI “sandbox testing failures” have been spun into hysteria.
  • _“No kill switch”—the phrase becomes a recurring joke for the show ([59:10], CNBC)
• Larry rails against AI in daily life, voicing a desire for an “anti-AI virus.”
• Discussion: The escalation of misinformation both feeds today’s outrage and pollutes the datasets that AI scrapes to determine “truth.”
  • Darren: “The blanketing of information… is ramping up because the major opinion that the AI sees... is the one it's most likely going to believe.” ([37:30])
• Lighthearted moment: Reports of people using AI chatbots to automate dating (“chat-phishing”) spark comedy and concern.
  • “It is funny… this could be two AIs talking to each other.” ([62:07], Darren)
• Gen Z lifestyle: Discussion of Harris Poll data showing Gen Z’s isolation and aversion to nightlife, leading to increased loneliness.
  • “This is the most connected generation in history, but also the loneliest.” ([68:53], Harris Poll)

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Real-Time News Deconstruction: Watergate, Immigration, & Political Language

The Minnesota "Water-Hacking-Gate"

[75:28 - 83:59]

• News outlets blame an Iranian cyberattack on water plants solely because "no ransom was asked."
  • Darren: “What is the smoking gun? ...They didn’t ask for ransom. That’s the reason why we think it’s Iran.” ([77:54])
  • Both hosts question logic, suggest insiders or bored script kiddies are more likely, and lampoon municipalities for connecting critical infrastructure to the open internet.

Global Migration Crisis: Spain’s Ceuta and US Parallels

[112:16 - 128:34+]

• A series of international news reports (BBC, Fox, Global News, France 24, CBS) chronicle 60,000+ migrants surging from Morocco into Ceuta, Spain, after a court ruled arrivals by sea could not be returned.
  • Darren: “This is the exact playbook of what happened with everybody coming into the United States.” ([125:13])
  • Both ridicule the “confusion” about the root cause—obvious open border incentives—and contrast left-leaning governments’ responses.
  • Larry: “Invaders are now called migrants. …They’re invaders, not migrants.” ([127:35])

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Political Culture Wars & The Power of Memes

“We Need Memes!”—Politics via Memification

[84:02 - 96:31] Abdul El-Sayed, Memes, & Manipulating the Presidency

• Clip of Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed detailing his plan to create the "memes" the next president should adopt.
  • “My principal job is… translating policy goals in language that moves people… paving out the pathway for what the next president should sound like… offering memes that people can pick up who are running for president.” ([90:35 & 92:31], Abdul El-Sayed)
• Darren and Larry dissect the cynical recognition that memes win elections more than policies, reflecting a profoundly unserious political environment.
  • Larry: “He’s the meme ventriloquist… They realize how stupid the electorate has become.”

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Far-Left Politics, Communism, and Bill Maher’s Alarm Bells

[99:18 - 104:03]

• Bill Maher’s monologue denouncing the Democratic Socialists of America as communists sparks discussion:
  • “Not a week goes by where I don’t read about some newly chosen… Democrat, and then when that face opens its mouth, the Communist Manifesto… comes out.” ([100:06], Bill Maher)
• The hosts agree with Maher, argue Communism is now open and unashamed on the US left, and lament the lack of public understanding or pushback.
  • “If someone’s intent is to destroy you… that’s not an opinion, that’s an enemy.” ([101:28], Larry)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Press Malpractice”—Clip of the Day: “Your job is a fierce skepticism toward authority, and you weren't doing that.” ([05:46], RFK Jr.)
• “He was against millionaires until he became one… then he was against billionaires.” ([12:20], Darren)
• “No one demanded a ransom… so it must be Iran!” ([78:00], Darren, water hacking segment)
• “Invaders are now referred to as migrants, and it so pisses me off because they’re not… They're invaders.” ([127:35], Larry)
• “My principal job is... to translate public policy goals in language that moves people—to build the political capacity to drive legislation and change public policy… I get to do that quite a bit moving into 2028, where I can leave a lot of these memes for how we talk about this on the table.” ([94:03], Abdul El-Sayed)

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Timestamps by Segment

| Segment | Discussion Points | |--------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 00:48 - 04:21 | JCD Tribute, global impact, the “Podfather's” legacy | | 04:31 - 07:56 | Press Malpractice & Clip of the Day (RFK Jr.) | | 08:00 - 18:51 | Bernie Sanders, Leftist hypocrisy, “Pillory Pageant” | | 20:45 - 34:12 | Truth Social API, media manipulation, rug-spotting | | 39:15 - 64:20 | AI hysteria, script kiddies, “no kill switch,” dating bots| | 68:53 - 72:47 | Gen Z loneliness, changing social patterns | | 75:28 - 83:59 | MN water hacking, critical infrastructure, Iran claims | | 112:16 - 128:34 | Spain’s Ceuta migration crisis & US parallels | | 84:02 - 96:31 | Politics and memes—Abdul El-Sayed’s “We Need Memes!” | | 99:18 - 104:03 | Bill Maher’s Communist Alarm Bells | | 130:37 - 132:43 | Stephen Miller: “Democrats are the party of freaks, weirdos...”|

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Tone and Language

The show maintains No Agenda’s hallmark irreverent, sardonic tone—punctuated by media clips, dry humor, and skepticism. Darren and Larry balance heartfelt listener tributes with caustic political analysis and energetic banter. The “deconstruction” is equally merciless toward left and right, with a wariness for both media manipulation and Big Tech hype.

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Community & Listener Engagement

• Multiple references to the “troll room,” value-for-value support, producer dedications, and local meetups.
• Recurrent reminders: “We are not trying to replace Adam or John,” but keeping the seat warm and the tradition alive.
• Listener clips, anecdotes, and donation notes interspersed.

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Closing / Call to Action

• Donate/support via value-for-value model.
• Attend or organize a No Agenda meetup (details given for various upcoming gatherings).
• Memorable JCD attaboys, ISOs, listener thanks, and sentiments that the spirit of No Agenda and JCD’s influence live on through the audience and show tradition.

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Summary

“We Need Memes!” exemplifies No Agenda’s blend of community tribute, media evisceration, and cultural wit, with sharp, granular analysis of current events and a through-line of both anxiety and skepticism about technology, government, and the ongoing "memeification" of politics. The episode stands as a fitting ode to JCD and No Agenda’s enduring role as a bulwark of critical media analysis—even in a world increasingly ruled by memes, bots, and media spin.

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Best Quotes for Sharing:

• “Press Malpractice—your job is fierce skepticism toward authority, and you weren't doing that.” (RFK Jr., [05:46])
• “No kill switch... this is good. This is where I like to see AI going: self destruction.” (Larry, [59:12])
• “My principal job... is to translate policy into the memes the next president should pick up.” (Abdul El-Sayed, [94:03])
• "Invaders are now called migrants... They're invaders." (Larry, [127:35])

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For those who missed the show: This recap provides a comprehensive roadmap to a classic No Agenda episode—equal parts political satire, grassroots community celebration, and a crash course in how to spot media BS in the age of AI, memes, and permanent outrage.

Transcript

[Larry Blidner]

Hit it, baby.

[Unknown Contributor]

Larry Bleitner, Darren O'.

Neill.

[Darren O'Neill]

It's Sunday, August 2nd, 2026. This is your Gitmo Nation. A media assassination. Episode 1891. This is no Agenda. That's right. We are broadcasting live from just outside of Chirac right here in FEMA region Number five in the morning, everybody. I'm Darren o' Neill and from the

[Larry Blidner]

pretentious Connecticut shore, this is Larry Blidner. Keeping commies and creeps at bay with my gleam scimitar of truth. It's Darren and Larry in the morning.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, I still can't figure out why you move from one commie place to another. You had a chance.

[Larry Blidner]

I'm not that bright.

[Darren O'Neill]

You had a chance to escape.

[Larry Blidner]

What can I say?

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah. The joyride continues on today's show.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Thanks to everybody who sent in the well wishes. And we are trying to do right by the show and trying to give you the media deconstruction. We are not trying to replace Adam or John because we can never replace Adam and John, but we're Darren and Larry.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, we're having some fun. I'll say that. That was a lot of fun last time out. Really was.

[Darren O'Neill]

And one thing I missed in the troll, him. And I think I said the number when I did the troll count because it's like plates are spinning. The Podfather makes it look easy. The maximum number listening live was 888, which is kind of spooky being that JCD, everybody knows eights are magic.

[Larry Blidner]

So now why do you think they were magic?

[Darren O'Neill]

I couldn't know.

[Larry Blidner]

But they are just stacked zeros or two donuts or what. You know, I always wonder about that, why people develop, you know, an affinity for certain digits.

[Darren O'Neill]

Your lucky numbers are your lucky numbers budget. So JCD left a mark worldwide. And if there's any question about it, our first clip for today comes all the way from down under. And Adam posted this over on the X. And the woman's name, I've got it. Here is Sarah Harris and man, Nick the rat was the first one. Like, oh man, now you're making me cry again. Because this is going to show you exactly the whole all around the world left by the passing of John C. Dvorak.

[Unknown Contributor]

This is quite embarrassing to admit, but last Friday I spent the time crying

[Darren O'Neill]

in the work toilets over a man

[Unknown Contributor]

I've actually never met the last 12 years. Twice a week, every week, I've been listening to this podcast and it's hosted by John C. Dvorak.

[Darren O'Neill]

They're showing a picture Of John.

[Larry Blidner]

I've just been listening to this podcast

[Darren O'Neill]

for such a long time.

[Larry Blidner]

It's become such a part of my life.

[Unknown Contributor]

And, like, I've donated to the show.

They don't.

You don't pay for it. It's all on based on donations. And, like, it's got me through some hard times in my life, but I can't believe how hard it's hit me.

Like, it feels like.

It feels like a death in the family, you know, when people lose their minds when celebrities die.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah.

[Unknown Contributor]

I always thought, oh, my God thing. I actually get it. I can't be the only one that's had this reaction to feeling like, you know, someone and that other person has

no clue who you are.

[Darren O'Neill]

No. So, Sarah Harris, we feel you. The outpouring from people saying just that and this coming from somebody that works in radio. You know, I don't think anybody that does this kind of thing where you're talking and, you know, you're basically talking to a microphone and I'm talking to you and Adam was talking to John. Sometimes you lose that. You're talking to a whole lot of people and you're making a difference in what you do. So that was a beautiful tribute, and

[Larry Blidner]

that was very nice. Really was heartfelt.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes. Echoing what you are hearing from a lot of the producers of the no Agenda show. Again, thanks to everybody for listening to Larry and I keep up this tradition and for the people saying Larry's voice is too good. I mean, you're probably right.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, keep saying that. I love it. More louder. Repeat, please.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, but it's. As usual, the news cycle going on. The media is.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Is a little less than honest. And you brought a clip that is more than fresh off.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, this is like, this popped up like 20 minutes ago. And it's kind of interesting because the, you know, in the previous show, you know, the. The doll of the day was, of course, Tony Fauci. And, you know, his. His fans are still clinging to his. To what remains of him. And one of them, obviously, is. Is Dana Bash. And she's. She's kind of getting into it with Bobby the K. Right. You know, just minutes before this show began.

[Darren O'Neill]

Give me.

[Unknown Contributor]

But you're just. You're talking about rights, and I'm asking about a potential public health crisis that is. That is coming. But I do want to. Let's.

And one of the mistakes we made

[Darren O'Neill]

in the last time was suppressing those

[Unknown Contributor]

rights so people weren't being heard. Doctors who were saying, you're doing it wrong were being Marginalized and vilified and because.

Because, again, I really want to move on, but, yeah, you were saying.

You were saying part of the problem.

No, I wasn't part of the problem.

It was absolute press malpractice. You weren't allowing your.

Mr. Secretary.

Your job. Your job is a fierce skepticism, court authority, and you weren't doing that.

You were beating up.

My job is dissenting.

No. Okay, Are you going to. You want to sit here and attack me, or do you want to have a conversation? I'm not attacking you.

[Darren O'Neill]

I'm not you. Larry, we. We've never actually hit this button for us yet. Clip of the day. I don't care that it's the first one.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, my God. Well, thank you. I feel so honored. And there might be a show title in there, Darren. Press Malpractice. I've never even heard that before, but I love it.

[Darren O'Neill]

Oh, I love that people are getting a little bit more ornery with these morons that. Pretending to be the media who never ask probing questions. If you ever hear like, oh, what do you make of that? You know, they're morons.

[Larry Blidner]

Of course. They don't know what to say.

[Darren O'Neill]

And this reality of Waldo. We were. Bobby the k. Absolutely right. They were silencing doctors who had a different opinion from the majority. That happened. And that's scary, because how do you know if your doctors are right or the other doctors are right? You don't.

[Larry Blidner]

They were silencing. Silencing everyone. I was bumped off Facebook because I said things critical of the vax. I was. Many of my tweets were. Were deleted, you know, for those violations. Disinformation. Disagreement is disinformation. We all remember that.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, we. And you were suspended a few times as well from.

[Larry Blidner]

By the way. I have to think my wife came up with that clip. And if I don't thank her, I'm gonna be probably not eating for the next week or so, so thank you, wife.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, that's it. You never know where the good CL come.

[Larry Blidner]

You never know. Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

And that is. Wow. I mean, I've heard people like Rubio and Trump get a little contentious with the press. RFK Jr. This, I think, was the. So far, my favorite.

[Larry Blidner]

Right? He's got game. There's no question. Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

That is press.

[Larry Blidner]

So what happened was after the Fauci thing last episode, I kind of flashed on this kooky idea, and I want to run it by you, Darren, of course, the podfather and all our marvy producers out. Out there. And it's Kind of like no Agenda has this very pronounced, I think, medieval component. You know, it's kind of like ving rhames and Pulp Fiction. We're gonna get medieval on your ass. Yeah. We got knights, we get dames, we get barons and dukes and viscounts and magical swords and regal trumpet fanfares and signet rings and ceiling wax. And that's all right there. Excuse me. And I realized as I was watching Fauci in that chamber of congress being grilled, and I'd say grilled, slash verbally abused by some of those guys, that this was the 21st century version of being pilloried like Quasimodo, you know, being towed around a town square, strapped to an open wagon while everybody pitches rotten fruits and vegetables at him and curses them out. Right. That's kind of what that was, and it must totally deserve. Quasimodo was a great guy, as we know. He's actually a hero, just not, not attractive, but about the same as, as that knife eared goblin, Fauci. So anyway, watching that, I thought maybe, maybe there's something there. Maybe, maybe there's a, there's an element or a feature that could be added to no Agenda. Something like the pillory pageant. Right. And so my, my first nominee would be Bernie. Right? I mean, who's, who's more cretinous and horrific than Bernie? That horrid commie fossil who just won't go away. And Kennedy so nicely, just summed him up nicely on the five. But I, I wondered, was Kennedy at MTV at the same time Adam was? I wonder if he knows her.

[Darren O'Neill]

There might have been overlap.

[Larry Blidner]

Overlap. That'd be interesting to get his take on that. But here's a Kennedy summing up Bernie rather nicely. She misses a couple of steps, so I'll butt in and speak when she does.

[Unknown Contributor]

Bernie Sanders. And I speak from experience here. He's like a woman in her 50s, still super hot, doesn't care, doesn't give a spit about anything or anyone's opinion. But he wants to be beloved. And I look at Bernie Sanders like a cult leader because that's what he is to the day. Democratic socialists. Because they are all in on emotion. They not only do not have a rational capacity, they despise anything having to do with rationality because rationality represents objectivity and objectivity means math. Objectivity means black and white. It means binary choices. And they despise that. Everything has to be subjective. It has to be about your feelings. And they pin all of that on their cult leader, Bernie Sanders. And you know, it's like, say whatever you want about him. Sure, I'm sure he's a nice guy, but he's also got a massive ego on him and he wants to maintain his spot as the kingmaker.

[Larry Blidner]

Well, that's all true. And I might add, you've been railing about that for almost five years on no agenda, how they're all about feelings. Correct? Yeah, yeah, but where I disagree with Kennedy is how does she know that people always do this on the right. Because. Right. The right always wants to kind of take the high road and be nice. Hey, Kennedy, how do you know Bernie's a nice guy? Have you had dinner with him, lived next door to him? She probably never met the guy. I'll tell you what he is. He's a gloomy creep. Okay, you want to know what Bernie is? Picture this. You're. You're. You're sitting in an airport lounge, little too early for your flight. There are dozens of empty seats around you, and in the distance up the concourse, you spot this demented vagrant shuffling your way.

[Darren O'Neill]

Looks like a Muppet.

[Larry Blidner]

Well, it's August and he's wearing galoshes and an arctic parka and he's mumbling to himself and you're praying this guy won't come your way, but of course he does. And he flops right next to you and says, let's talk about oligarchy. Okay? That's, that's what Bernie Sanders is. He's that kind of a weirdo. You don't want to be in the same zip code as the guy. Right.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, he has changed his. You know, he was against millionaires until it was out that he was a multimillionaire. Then he became against billionaires.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. The, the M switch to a B and somebody had a clip. It was too, too verbose and too, too much the same stuff. But they had him from 1983, right till the present, saying the exact same lines. He goes becoming a nice little on and on and on. He never changes his tune. You know, it's pretty awful. But it's funny you mentioned the thing about his, his departure from, from savaging millionaires for billionaires. Because of course, because Bernie is a millionaire.

[Darren O'Neill]

Multiple houses, doing pretty well.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah. And here's a, Here's a terrific clip of Dave Rubin, Bernie explaining himself. And then Dave has some fascinating commentary after that.

[Unknown Contributor]

Do I own three residences? Yeah, I do. I live here in Burlington, Vermont. We live in a middle class neighborhood, nice house.

[Darren O'Neill]

I mean, to be fair, though, Larry, everybody has at least three Residences. Don't they?

[Larry Blidner]

I don't. Do you?

[Darren O'Neill]

No. Sorry. I barely have one.

[Larry Blidner]

Me too. I don't know what's the matter?

[Unknown Contributor]

Guess what? I'm a United States Senator.

[Larry Blidner]

And so there's a foot down. There's kind of in your face. Right. Little hubris.

[Unknown Contributor]

I'm United States Senator.

[Larry Blidner]

Okay.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah. Guess what.

[Larry Blidner]

Guess what? Isn't that rich? Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Right. Right. So that means that you've obviously made money off the backs of what constituents you have. And again, politicians that enrich themselves while in office. There is a long list on both sides of the aisle. Except for some reason, Lindsey Graham, who didn't enrich himself.

[Larry Blidner]

That's shocking. Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah. I think that Bernie suffers a lot from Fauci disease. Which is.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, yeah.

[Unknown Contributor]

Oh.

[Larry Blidner]

He's in love with himself. Absolutely.

[Darren O'Neill]

And he never thought his little position of socialism was going to work. He's old enough that he's been doing this so long he never thought it was really going to work. He was just the crazy guy on the one side who was enriching himself while telling you you shouldn't have money. And now here he is being questioned and he doesn't like it.

[Larry Blidner]

Home in Washington D.C. as do most centers.

[Unknown Contributor]

You know, you live there year after year. When I first went to. Actually when I was in Congress for 16 years, I rented all the time. But I got elected.

Okay.

Got a six year term.

[Darren O'Neill]

You know what? Let's buy a house.

[Unknown Contributor]

So we bought a house and guess what? Like many thousands of people in the state of Vermont, I have a summer camp. It's a nice one. Stop. Lake Champlain.

That's it.

[Larry Blidner]

Did you hear that? I have a summer camp. Is that like a re education camp? Who the hell talks about a vacation calls it a camp if. Unless it's a tent on the side of the lake. Bernie. Or lying. That's. That's not a camp. You know. But again, lefties and commies love. They love the word camp. They really do.

[Unknown Contributor]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Camp usually makes you think that there is a, you know, a cult or maybe something like that going on. Want to hear that again?

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

I got elected.

[Unknown Contributor]

Okay.

Got a six year term.

[Darren O'Neill]

You know what? Let's buy a house.

[Unknown Contributor]

So we bought a house. And guess what? Like many thousands of people in the state of Vermont. I have a summer camp. It's a nice one. On Lake Champlain.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah. I've never heard of anybody saying he has a summer camp. Yeah, summer home. Maybe. Maybe he's having an aneurysm or something.

[Larry Blidner]

Cottage. No, it's A, I think it's a commie. A commie word. It's a. It's a dog whistle. My camp.

[Darren O'Neill]

I believe it.

[Unknown Contributor]

Yeah, that's it. Now how did I get the money?

[Larry Blidner]

You're right.

[Unknown Contributor]

I wrote two bestselling books, including this book on capitalism. It was New York Times bestseller for a while.

[Darren O'Neill]

Okay, that is also very ironic that.

[Larry Blidner]

Totally. As Ruben will remark shortly. Yes, incredibly ironic. I mean, and this again says, you know, people think he's really smart right there. He's really stupid, okay? What he is, he's persistent. He hangs, as they say, you know, 90% of life is showing up and that's what Bernie's done. But he's really not that bright and at all.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, yeah, and why do all these commies not give all of their extra money to the government? Isn't that what they want?

[Larry Blidner]

Why not? I don't know.

[Unknown Contributor]

And also another book was a youth book and that's 175,000 a year. And that's more or less how I

[Darren O'Neill]

became the zillionaire that I am.

[Unknown Contributor]

How did I make the money?

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, even though I've spent a career

[Unknown Contributor]

trying to destroy capitalism and I've got

[Darren O'Neill]

three houses and everything else, I sold best selling books. Of course, I guess if I thought about it for a little bit longer, I'd realize that selling best selling books

[Unknown Contributor]

and getting them on the New York Times best selling.

[Larry Blidner]

I didn't know Ruben could be that funny. That was very good, wasn't it?

[Darren O'Neill]

He's entertaining.

[Larry Blidner]

He really is. And yeah, he picked right up in the irony. I hate capitalism, but I'm going to use it so I can buy a vacation house and on the lake of Vermont and live well.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes. Being anti capitalism is the stance for everything that he has put out there that has made him money.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

And he thinks that's okay. That's the insanity. You're not even pointing out like, you know, this isn't right. This is way too much money for somebody just to, you know, write some words down on a piece of paper. That's not what Bernie's saying. He's taking the money. He's happy about the money. Yeah, but he got the money because of a system that he hates, which

[Larry Blidner]

and wants to destroy.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes. You don't think he's going to give up all his money if the country, if the commies win and the country switches over, then you think Bernie's going to give up all of his money?

[Larry Blidner]

No. Well, I think Stalin had like six vacation homes. He was very wealthy and you know, before. I remember reading before Musk really became musk and before the Soviet Union, it fell. Or maybe right around that time, Vlad Putin was suspected of maybe being the richest guy on Earth. Like, way, way, way back. He had. I think he's worth like 40, 50 billion. And that was before Gates or Buffett attained that. That level, you know, so. So those commies can. They really had to make it pay. They do.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah. They make a lot of money telling you that this is a horrible, horrible system.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

Which makes zero sense.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, for them it does.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, yeah. Because they get money.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes. So that's it. Now, interestingly enough, I found another dynamite clip of Michael Savage. Haven't heard much from him lately, but he's gonna. He's gonna talk about Bernie and do his impression. I'll let you and the folks at home decide which is superior.

[Darren O'Neill]

Sanders is the walking embodiment of the evil Communist. And that hand of his, that spittle hand. Let me tell you why we need to have a cooperation, international cooperation on it. We must have international cooperation with China on the thing, with AI.

[Larry Blidner]

And the reason we need to have

[Darren O'Neill]

it on AI is because if we don't all get together on AI, someone is going to dominate from space and we'll all get killed. So I think that we must give all of our secrets to China right away. And I tell you right now, although I look cockeyed and I look like I'm an old Jewish man who ate too much salsa, I'm really a communist plant who should have been indicted a long time ago. But you go are so stupid. You don't even know my naked communist. Let me tell you that right now. He's had more practice doing it, there's no question.

[Larry Blidner]

Definitely better. It was better. I mean, Reuben's. I love the Reuben's. Like choking on his own larynx or something at the end. That was kind of cool. But a savage has got him beat on. Just the straight Bernie impression. Very good. Well, yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

And again, this is the far right media going after the far left. This is the ball game that you're getting no matter what.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

And I don't know if anybody really wins because the reality of things gets so lost somewhere in the middle. Which is what? No agenda kind of sprung up from the fact that you're getting this stuff here. You're getting this stuff here. How do you know who to believe? And, you know, for a while it was kind of. I won't say easy, but you were able to kind of keep score and fact Check things and know which side is telling the truth kind of, and which side isn't. But it's actually getting harder.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

And harder and harder. Now, the one story that I thought kind of exemplified this better than anything else. I'm sure Bernie hates it, too, because money's coming into the Trump family is the truth. Social media API. And, you know, being a guy who's kind of familiar with all this stuff, I'm like, this doesn't seem right. We just have a couple of clips on this. The first being from the senator from your area, good old Chris Murphy.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, that guy.

[Darren O'Neill]

This guy can spew more falsehoods and mistruths in a short time than anybody. I mean, right now, I think he may be at the top of the game.

[Larry Blidner]

May I add my specialty. He wears a rug.

[Darren O'Neill]

He does. He wears a. His hair is not his own.

[Larry Blidner]

It's like the lid on a coffee pot. It's so bad.

[Darren O'Neill]

We have learned this over the past few years of Planet Rage. Larry's superpower is being able to tell if a guy is wearing a wig or not. And that if you've heard all those. The favorite John C. Dvorak clips, you know, one of them was, he claimed Adam Curry wore a wig back in the MTV days. What say you, Larry?

[Larry Blidner]

I mean, no, no, I know the real deal. And even that big hair, which. That's an easy fake, you know, the more it is, that's, you know, no, that's. That's all his. But just for you to know, Mom, Danny absolutely wears a rug. Nobody knows that. And though he denies it, Rand Paul. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. I drive people crazy. They watch a show at my house, and I freeze the damn TV to stand up and point at the follicles and say, look, here's the glue. Can you see that? You know, yeah, I'm really insane about that.

[Darren O'Neill]

Are you happy this is your superpower?

[Larry Blidner]

I am. People hate me everywhere for it, but I don't care. I enjoy doing it. It's like a kazoo player. You know, you want to get rid of them, but you can't.

[Darren O'Neill]

Oh, here is Senator Chris Murphy on the Truth Social API.

[Unknown Contributor]

Donald Trump just announced that he is setting up an insider trading information subscription service. If you pay Donald Trump.

[Darren O'Neill]

Okay, again, want to be clear. Nobody's paying Donald Trump. They're paying Truth Social, which Donald Trump has in a trust. His family owns part or most of Truth Social. They may have the controlling still, but this is not Donald Trump, the person doing this. This is an entity which his family has control over. Now, there is legally a difference, and I think being a senator, Chris Murphy knows that. But again, he wants you, the listener, to believe that Donald Trump is doing something corrupt.

[Larry Blidner]

Of course he does.

[Unknown Contributor]

Donald Trump, $100,000 a month. He will give you early access to the announcements he's making regarding federal policy, early access to information about tariffs, early access to information about the Iran war, early access to information about what country he's bombing.

[Darren O'Neill]

Now, I just want to point out to everybody that when he's saying early access with an API into a social media platform, he's not talking about you getting Donald Trump's post. And they're saying they're packaging up the top 10 accounts on truth Social, which I'm guessing Donald Trump has to be the number one. But it's the top 10 accounts on truth Social that you will get access to their posts. It will be fed to you, rather than you having to scrape it using your own AI sitting. Having an employee do nothing but sit there and just hit refresh on Donald Trump or whoever, whoever's post that you want. So the reality on this is when they say you're getting this information early, it's hundredths or thousands of seconds earlier than everybody else, not even minutes. And I think that is a big, big detail.

[Larry Blidner]

100 grand for. For what period? Month?

[Darren O'Neill]

A year? For a month.

[Larry Blidner]

That's incredible, because A.I.

[Darren O'Neill]

baby, this is a trader. You know, these people that work in the stock market, they have automated systems, I'm sure, watching Donald Trump's post. And if they see something that is, you know, good, that oil is going to be going up, well, then buy this or sell this, and it's set up to do it automatically. And in that case, being a few thousandths of a second faster might actually be a lot of money. But this, this is not getting private information that other people don't get.

[Larry Blidner]

But I'm still not understanding why anybody who's got that kind of money would figure it was worth it for a millisecond advance on the knowledge. I mean, because, you know, who could possibly type in that bet to Poly Market? Or, you know, it's all oil stock or whatever. Huh?

[Darren O'Neill]

It's banks and stock traders that have this stuff set to automatically fire. So if you're the first one, if you see Donald Trump says something and you're like, oh, boy, XYZ Corporation is about to go under. Well, if you're the first ones to sell off that stock before everybody else does, it's a weird world. It's absolutely a weird world. And it's hard to wrap your brain around the fact that getting information just a split second, literally possibly under a second quicker, is worth paying that kind of money for. But it's also a direct hose out. Anybody that uses social media understands you are requesting to see those messages. And if you have a notification set to come out to you, if somebody makes a post, usually that's not instantaneous, you've got the post, it's going to take 30 seconds or 60 seconds for it to even notice somebody you're following that you have a notification set. So it could be a couple of minutes later that you're seeing somebody posted it. This isn't the direct fire hose out. Anytime any of these accounts post anything, it's going directly to the people that will pay. And it is an ungodly amount of money. $100,000, that's impressive per month. I mean, God bless capitalism, right, Bernie?

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Unknown Contributor]

Next. This is a criminal syndicate that he is running out in the open, but

[Darren O'Neill]

it's not a criminal. I mean, I think eventually some of this is actionable. As far as what these folks day,

[Larry Blidner]

I think you're completely right. And if I, if I was the Donald, I back away from this. I think he's loading the guns for them.

[Darren O'Neill]

Possibly, yes. Just getting them to say exactly what you know they're going to say. Trump derangement syndrome is real.

[Unknown Contributor]

Yeah. It is illegal to make money off

[Darren O'Neill]

of inside information, but this is an inside information. Everybody's getting it. This is just a split second faster. So yeah, it's not. And again, so again, Ms. Totally. A senator from the great state of Connecticut intentionally telling you something that's not true.

[Larry Blidner]

The rug wearing senator in Connecticut, I'll

[Darren O'Neill]

have to add that into his bio.

[Larry Blidner]

And of course what he left out is, you know, let's not forget how Truth Social was established. Trump had been blocked from all social media because they just didn't like him. So he said, well, screw you, I'm starting my own. And he did. So good for him.

[Darren O'Neill]

And I will also point out that X has an API very similar to this.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, do they?

[Darren O'Neill]

So I'm guessing that perhaps even the blue skies. I don't know. I would have to do a little more research, but I know for sure X has one that's very similar. This is for companies that want to get information at a breakneck speed where even the shortest amount of time makes a difference. And for everybody using these social media platforms, understand that the way they survive is certainly not on the Puny ads that you're seeing. No, this is how they survive. They have corporate clients that pay big bucks for access to that information. And it's not illegal. It is not insider trading. It's not what it's being portrayed here by Senator Murphy as at all.

[Unknown Contributor]

Donald Trump is literally setting up a formal process by which you can pay him a bribe in exchange for information that no one else has.

[Darren O'Neill]

No one else will have for at least 1 1,000th of a second. This guy's nuts.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, he's, he's weasel.

[Unknown Contributor]

A hundred thousand dollars a month. Big billion dollar corporations have that money and when they have advanced notice of a tariff announcement, they can place bets on the market to be able to make millions of dollars. Well, ordinary Americans who cannot pay him for inside information get screwed. None of this is normal. A lot of this is illegal. And I will just say to companies

[Darren O'Neill]

out there, and I will just ask Senator Chris Murphy which parts of this is are illegal and explain what the legal statutes are that you are claiming. It's. I love this is another tell when people just throw things like that. Oh, much of this is illegal. Well, if you actually knew, any rational person would be like, well, he just did this. And this by according to this law is, you know, against the law. But no, they never do that.

[Unknown Contributor]

No, if you choose to take part in this scheme and it proves to be illegal as it looks on its face, you are going to eventually be held accountable.

[Darren O'Neill]

So if you even take part, you're. We're going to get this again is the Democrats way, isn't it? When we get back in charge, if you pay Donald Trump this money that we say is illegal, I mean, but it's not. But we're going to say it's illegal. But then when we get back in power, oh, you're going to be held accountable. Yeah, that seems like a threat.

[Larry Blidner]

It's always a threat, right? Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

And this was covered by. I don't think he's listening live right now, sir. Ben Rose's favorite pundit out there. We may need a jingle. This is the leftist talking head, David Pakman, who's also been proven to be taking what, $80,000 a month from some leftist group to.

[Larry Blidner]

I thought it was eight, eight zero eight.

[Darren O'Neill]

Maybe it was eight. You're right. He's not worth 80.

[Larry Blidner]

He's not in the Trump league. Not yet.

[Darren O'Neill]

No, he can't, he can't afford the API access.

[Unknown Contributor]

Donald Trump is putting the presidency up for sale.

[Darren O'Neill]

Ooh, how do you buy the presidency, I ask?

[Unknown Contributor]

Hmm. And Wall street firms willing to pay $100,000 a month may get to cut the line. Let me explain this. Trump can announce a tariff, he can announce a sanction or a war, and it instantly moves financial markets. And now a company benefiting his family wants to sell traders earlier access to the announcements.

[Darren O'Neill]

Okay, at least give Pacman credit over Chris Murphy and the fact that he said it's a company controlled by his family, not the president.

[Unknown Contributor]

Yes, listen to this grift and corruption. Trump Media, which owns Truth Social, has unveiled something called the Truth API. And what it'll do is deliver posts from 10 influential Truth social accounts, including potentially Donald Trump's, to banks and trading firms faster than ordinary users get them. And according to Reuters, the company is looking at charging $100,000 a month. If that seems steep, they've got a special offer. If you do a three year deal, they'll do it for 60 grand a month.

[Larry Blidner]

Now, whoa, whoa, Darren, let's get in on that. It's only 60amonth. Come on, pony up.

[Darren O'Neill]

It's a bargain. We can get Donald Trump's post in right into our desktop in real time.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes.

[Unknown Contributor]

There's almost no one on Truth Social. It's such a stupid platform. Why would anyone pay more than a million dollars a year to see Trump's posts a little bit early? Because for high frequency traders, milliseconds can mean millions of dollars. Because these firms are using computers. Everything is computer. As Trump says, these firms are using computers to execute massive trades almost instantly. And so if their computers learn about a market moving announcement even a fraction of a second before anybody else, they could buy or sell whatever is going to be affected before the price reflects.

[Darren O'Neill]

Everyone knowing that and that he's right about. And the reality with the AI systems now are that these trades can be set up in a way that are nearly instantaneous. I mean, you're not going to have a human being probably able to do anything to verify that the AI is interpreting what is said correctly. Which also is kind of funny because I would think that if Donald Trump has a typo in one of his posts that says I am doing something instead of I'm not doing well, then you can have all sorts of money get lost really quick because an AI is not going to be smart enough because they don't think no to know exactly what the original intent was. So that could be something else moving forward. That can be a huge deal. A typo now can be very sure. That is obvious. It could be a typo. That's obvious. To you and me and every human being that is reading it. But will a computer be able to figure that out? And this is where I've been asking for years, both listening to Adam and John here on no Agenda, doing the show with you, listening to, you know, Bill O'Reilly, all of these news sources, listening to these David Pakman clips, listening to the Midas touch guys. I know Adam and John played clips from them that are running a non stop fire hose of lies, misinformation and it comes on both sides. There's a lot of the crazy alt right people as well that are throwing things out there that aren't exactly true. And I'm like, what is the point of this? And yes, there's a Today effect, which is people are reading it and they are getting spun up for one reason or another. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. But getting people angry, as we know, gets people engaged. Oh yeah, I realized that immediately on X because I rarely interact on X. I'm like, it's kind of a waste of time. But a couple of weeks ago I just decided to throw a snide comment. Oh, I know, it's so hard to believe. I think it was at JB Pritzker's account or one of these type things. And all of a sudden my timeline went all liberal politicians and liberal pundits. It's like, this is magic.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, it is. Those algos are pretty good.

[Darren O'Neill]

The algos are real and that's the today part of this. But it's getting more and more obvious to me. And thank you, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak, for making my amygdala the right size and always looking for the reasons underneath, the reasons behind the reasons in the shadows. And I'm realizing now all of these things are recorded. They're going down there on the Internet.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

Which is what all of these AI systems are using to gather their information, to decide what's real. And I think there is a very big possibility that so much of this stuff is being thrown out there because the major opinion that the AI sees when it goes to scrape the data is going to be the one that it's most likely going to believe. So if there's like 50 people yelling this.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

Three people yelling the other thing. It's like, well, who's the AI going to pay attention to?

[Larry Blidner]

Of course. Of course. That's why they're doing it.

[Darren O'Neill]

So this is why the blanketing of information, I believe is ramping up even more so.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh yeah. Than it has been, it will be a constant avalanche. 24 7. By the way, I have some advice for Donald Trump in case he's listening because we do, we do know that, you know, people do listen to this show. They won't admit it, but they do donate.

[Darren O'Neill]

Donald Trump.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, donate. And you know, just make sure right after every entry you make where it says thank you for attention to this matter, then your subscript should definitely be a disclaimer. Truth Social is not responsible for any financial gain or loss you may experience. Because, because of this API. You know, just get that done. Get that done.

[Darren O'Neill]

It is, it's a very weird world where you will pay that much for access to information a split second sooner. And you know, companies are going to do it. I mean, I don't know if they're going to disclose how many companies are doing it, but I would bet that's going to be a money maker for him.

[Larry Blidner]

Could be or could be a financial disaster. We'll see. Stay tuned.

[Darren O'Neill]

Right. And of course there's a lot of. With AI that is truly the question right now. Is AI going to hit a bubble? I think it is at some point as people realize exactly what it is. And the whole open AI getting out of the sandbox thing, well, that was the subject here of a NBC News clip.

[Unknown Contributor]

Well, let's break that down because you talk about this as sort of a rogue incident that has a connotation to it. That for like I'm sort of like a self described AI Doomer where I see something like this and I'm like, oh man, these things are out of the box already. But what's the reality check on that? Well, let me counterbalance.

[Darren O'Neill]

Okay, also horrible question. What's the reality check on that?

[Larry Blidner]

Well, why don't we just go back and count the cliches he used in those three sentences out of the box. But I mean it's, it was. He's, he's. I want to hear that again. It's one, one cliche after another when this guy speaks.

[Unknown Contributor]

Well, let's break that down because you.

[Larry Blidner]

That's one breakdown.

[Darren O'Neill]

We're breaking it down. Everybody break it down.

[Unknown Contributor]

Sort of a rogue incident that has a connotation to it that for like I'm sort of like a self described AI Doomer where I see something like this and I'm like, oh man, these things are out of the box already.

[Larry Blidner]

Out of the box. That's two.

[Unknown Contributor]

What's the reality check on that?

[Larry Blidner]

What's the reality check?

[Darren O'Neill]

We have no reality. That's the check. Sorry about that.

[Unknown Contributor]

Well, let me counterbalance then. The doomerism. Right. This is a really exciting time. And in particular in our research at Sentinel One, what we figured out is these new models like GPT 5.6 SOL and mythos, what they have is a new emergent capability to do long horizon work, which unlocks some very powerful things for cybersecurity, for defensive use cases, and also for attacks. But keep in mind, right, when you say something like these models went rogue, that implies something that's, it's not quite accurate.

Right.

They had turned off the guardrails, they had turned everything off precisely because this is the kind of benchmark we want to run. They ran an experiment to see if they would go rogue. And in fact they did well just to see how well they could. Right. That's part of the intelligence game, is how good are they at finding vulnerabilities. But those vulnerabilities were there to begin

[Darren O'Neill]

with, which is something that you have not heard pointed out by the people that are trying to. So the fear over this AI, which is this wasn't really in a closed sandbox. What you're really seeing is that this was a user problem. The company took, you know, they set this up in order for this to happen. This all of these stories, including one of the earliest ones, which was like, well, when an AI was told it was going to be shut off, it decided to blackmail the, you know, the coder because it had access to his email and it was all set up.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

You know, it's like this is all a game and they're seeing what these systems can do and they're moving from being a one step AI, which is the chat bots, that you could just ask a simple question, it gives you an answer and then it's done. Yes, these newer systems are set to kind of daisy chain and can do multiple things which if you set them up the right way, can be great. But it's also, I mean, I think most people listening to no Agenda understand what a script kitty is in the hacking world, which is, I don't know

[Larry Blidner]

what the hell that is. Have no idea.

[Darren O'Neill]

You're an anti Ben.

[Larry Blidner]

I guess I am. It's true.

[Darren O'Neill]

There are already a bunch of software packages out there. There are resources online which show you how to be a hacker. So basically your hacking skills are you get a little app, little program from somebody, a little script, and you run it. And that is the majority of what your hacking skills are. Now for a company or a computer system that is, well Protected. That's not going to work. But if somebody just threw something out there and there was no protection on it whatsoever. The information on how to be a hacker exists on the Internet. So of course an AI is going to have access to that information.

[Larry Blidner]

And why do they call it a kitty script?

[Darren O'Neill]

It's meow. It's a script kitty. It's a. Because this is where the real hackers would make fun of these low level kids that are using scripts. They became the script kitties.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, kitty with two Ds. I thought it was TTY.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes.

[Larry Blidner]

Thank you.

[Unknown Contributor]

And I think this is a moment where we're seeing the emperor has no clothes. Vulnerability is rampant. And we need to figure out how to leverage AI in defensive ways in ways that are not obvious. Who's the we in that sentence? Right. Because I mean, I covered Congress for a long time. Do you see the federal government, our state governments, like, is anyone up to the regulatory challenge here? There's no such thing as there just being like a single body that's going to sort this out. But regulation is definitely an important part of this. Again, one that we need to be careful about because of the amount of fear mongering that's going into this. There's a game for regulatory capture. There's a lot of interest that are sort of playing in between. In reality, for cybersecurity, what you'd want to be looking at is something like software liability more so than a kill switch. Right. You need some adult supervision here. But it has to be sophisticated.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah. Because adults are the ones that know how, what they're doing. And again, there are so many things out in the wild.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

There is no way to put kill switches on the software that's already been released. There's no putting the genies back in the bottle.

[Larry Blidner]

Good. And the hell with adult supervision too.

[Darren O'Neill]

Right. Because, hey, we've seen enough here outside of Chiraq with all of the teen takeovers, which are not, of course, mob actions, according to the mayor of Chicago.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Do your parents know where your kids are? They don't. Sam Altman was asked about the safety, of course. He's the head of OpenAI and you know, he just kind of shrugs.

[Unknown Contributor]

Open AI CEO Sam Altman was on the Hill today to preview their new business model. Their new models where Fox Business reporter Darren Botello asked him about this.

[Darren O'Neill]

Do you plan to talk to the

[Unknown Contributor]

Trump administration White House about deceleration of AI development?

We.

I wouldn't use the word deceleration, but we've talked about the need to pace it as the models get more capable, which I think is in everyone's interest.

[Darren O'Neill]

Could there be other systems that were hacked by open AI?

[Unknown Contributor]

I mean, there could be, yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

I mean, there could be accelerating.

[Larry Blidner]

Is that. Is that correct or no?

[Darren O'Neill]

I mean, that's the problem.

[Larry Blidner]

Okay.

[Darren O'Neill]

You're dealing with something, as I always like to harp on with a lot of these things work on. AI is going on worldwide. So if every company in the United States is like, hey, hey, hey, we're going to slow everything down by 33%. Magic number. Or more.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Do you think they're going to do that in China?

[Larry Blidner]

No, they're going to do more with coal.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes.

[Larry Blidner]

And I'm in favor of that.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah. What did I see the other day? We have like 600 years of fossil fuels at our capacity, so why are we worried?

[Larry Blidner]

And that's just West Virginia.

[Darren O'Neill]

Wow.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

It's amazing things that politicians do because they don't know what they're doing. That's why politicians getting involved in AI is somewhat laughable.

[Unknown Contributor]

The shrug that tells a thousand stories here. This comes as more than 1,100 staff from across top AI firms have signed a petition calling on the government to help deliberately pace AI development. Because it's just advancing too fast.

[Darren O'Neill]

I don't know what that means.

[Larry Blidner]

Deliberately pace. I want to see how that's implemented. That's. That's quite a statement. Deliberately pace. Okay.

[Darren O'Neill]

Being that again, we are in a capitalist society for a while, that the company or the person, I mean, whoever comes up with the best product is going to make the money.

[Larry Blidner]

Not always, but in this case, Beta was better than vhs.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, you got a better picture, but you could put longer amounts, one more

[Larry Blidner]

hour tape on it. But it wasn't worth it. It was crap.

[Darren O'Neill]

I still have a stereo Betamax somewhere in the basement, man, I'm telling you. Yeah, they were great for recording concerts back in the day.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

But this is a total just idiotic take that we can slow down what the AI is doing now. I mean, you can. But again, nobody else is going to slow down. And using these alleged the AI got out of the box stories, it's not true, as we have here from a France 24. Wow. The French actually got something right.

[Larry Blidner]

Wow.

[Darren O'Neill]

They talk about how these incidents that happened were not just AIs going rogue, but they were, you know, more of a game that was put into the AI to solve a problem.

[Unknown Contributor]

After two of the world's biggest AI companies revealed their models had hacked computer systems during testing Anthropic Thursday said its Claude AI model hacked the systems of the three organizations. After more than 141,000 evaluations, it revealed each incident involved a different fictional capture the flag scenario. For example, in one, CLAUDE played an employee of a made up company attacking that company's internal systems inside a private test environment. The disclosure comes just days after rival OpenAI revealed one of its AI agents carried out a days long hacking campaign during testing exercises. The company says the bot targeted AI developer Hugging Face and multiple publicly available services. In light of advanced ChatGPT AI models escaping their lab and conducting cyber attacks, are you considering stronger controls on AI and would you consider negotiating?

[Larry Blidner]

Well, we're looking at AI, we're looking at controls.

[Unknown Contributor]

We're also making sure that we leave.

The incidents come as governments race to keep up with the technology. On Saturday, the president's AI executive order is due after federal agencies were given 60 days to design a voluntary safety framework for advanced AI developers. On Sunday, the European Union goes even further, enforcing most of its landmark AI act, the world's first comprehensive legislation governing artificial intelligence.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh yeah, you've got a fetish for this hugging face thing, Darren, I'm starting to worry about you. Can we get that funky music to play under everything we say, the whole show?

[Darren O'Neill]

France, I think they need that to make the news more interesting. But they're saying, hey, they're worried about falling behind in the AI. Well, no, wait, I thought we were supposed to be slowing down the AIs. And again, what? The open AI thing. According to a Wired article I read, which I don't always believe. Wired, but this was more user error. And when this happened, it was part of a new system, not the regular AI. It had intentionally left the guardrails, whatever that means, for each AI. It intentionally left those off and then put it out there to see what it can do. And basically you were asking though, what can IT do? And the AI world is going to be both great and horrible for network and computer security because it's going to make it very easy to find the vulnerabilities. With that said, then the people writing the software should be able to fix those vulnerabilities.

[Larry Blidner]

So is anybody out there cooking up a virus that will destroy AI? Because I want to donate to their funds.

[Darren O'Neill]

If your buddy McAfee was still around, he would probably be doing it.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, yeah, that's right. I would, I would love to see that happen. It's really, this whole AI thing is really starting to bug me and I want, I want, I want there to be someone out there to destroy it, to just immolate it.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, because it's everywhere. You can't call. I called up Comcast, my parents modem blew out. So I went in, got a new modem at Walmart because I mean screw Comcast, and went to go set it up. In the old days you called them up on the phone, you said, hey, tech support. Great, real person. Here's the Mac address. It's done.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Now it's an AI who says you have to go to the app. It's like, well, I didn't have my cell phone, I didn't have an app, I couldn't do it. It's insane that you can't get a real person. But more and more, anywhere you call, you get to talk to an AI.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

In really. It's infuriating.

[Larry Blidner]

The fix for that is there was a great sci fi horror novel long time ago. I read it when I was in college. I think the title was something like telephone with the European spelling T, E L E F O, N. And the premise was some dude figured out a way to rocket like 9,000 apps through a phone line. Yeah. And so he could just call anybody and blow their head up.

[Darren O'Neill]

That's a great game.

[Larry Blidner]

Right? That's what, that's what I want somebody to figure out that for. For AI and he can send it to one of Mr. Wonderful's data centers. You know the one that covers the entire state of Rhode Island. And just boom, up, it's gone.

[Darren O'Neill]

Even Willie Nelson's against data centers.

[Larry Blidner]

Is he?

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, Willie. It's like there's a lot of misunderstanding there as well.

[Larry Blidner]

I really don't. I'm just bored with it all. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just so bored. It's like, when will this go away?

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, it totally destroyed any other news on the tech and computer. That whole sector's gone. Hard drives are out of control price wise. It's insane.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah. Some friends of mine from la, their son is dating an onlyfans chick who's. She's like 21 years old and her income is 2 million a year.

[Darren O'Neill]

I can see that. And then she'll soon just like take a, you know, a video of herself and then just give it to an AI and then it'll just make the content while she's off doing whatever she wants, I guess.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah. And. And she's an even. Allegedly. I mean I haven't seen. But supposedly she's not doing nude stuff. It's just suggestive. You Know, bikini shots and so forth. And so like that's, that's interesting tech talk, really.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, I know Sir Gene likes to get mentioned on the show.

[Larry Blidner]

Mention him.

[Darren O'Neill]

He likes to watch somebody just do cooking. And again, no, no R rated. He's just watch somebody cook.

[Larry Blidner]

Does it have to be Russian food?

[Darren O'Neill]

Maybe, maybe it does. But just a couple more little clips here on the AI. This is Anthropic saying it was a testing failure. Not, oh, not a rogue AI, just a testing failure. Warning.

[Larry Blidner]

God.

[Unknown Contributor]

Kate Rooney has a lot more for us on. Man, these stories, they, they get me a little worried.

Kate. I don't know about you, David. It is the take, takeaway. I think this is adding to a lot of the worry around AI. And as you mentioned, it's the latest cybersecurity issue in AI. Anthropic now says it found three cases where its agent Claude accidentally hacked real companies during what was supposed to be cybersecurity testing. Anthropic didn't say which companies were involved, but it does argue that this was an issue with the setup for these tests. So the AI model, according to Anthropic said, they said that they thought it was in a closed environment, so they thought they were essentially attacking a simulated target. Turns out that was not the case. These were real companies. Anthropic does argue the incidents were the result of a testing environment failure. And researchers basically left a door open and all that. They claim it was an AI going rogue or breaking out here. Anthropic said they started this, quote, retrospective review after OpenAI's incident last week. They say they ran 141,000 evaluations as part of administrative encouraged other companies to go out and check their own AI agents. As a result. This was all kicked off by OpenAI in a separate and in some ways similar issue just last week.

[Darren O'Neill]

And yeah, art imitating life. Anybody old enough to remember the War Games movie with Matthew Broderick and Ali Sheedy in it?

[Larry Blidner]

I remember the movie, but I never saw it. Tell me about it.

[Darren O'Neill]

It was, I mean, as a nerd, back in the day, I was. That was the best movie ever.

[Larry Blidner]

What was it about?

[Darren O'Neill]

It's a kid that dials in because he has a modem that does magical things that didn't work.

[Larry Blidner]

I like this. This is good. Keep going.

[Darren O'Neill]

And it goes and it looks for numbers. That answer is a computer. And then he thought he was hacking into a game system. It turns out it was the Pentagon and he was playing with the computer, the Whopper, which the wopr I mean, not a Burger King thing. No, believe it or not.

[Larry Blidner]

Okay.

[Darren O'Neill]

And this was the computer that the government was using to run war gaming strategies. So it was, you know, one of these things were like, well, if we launch the first nuke, then this is what's going to happen. If they launch the first nuke. If this happened, all it did was the play by play in its imaginary world. What would happen if all of these war type things happen and what would the response be? This was kind of like playing games of chess over and over and over again.

[Larry Blidner]

I like it.

[Darren O'Neill]

And the reality was this kind of sounds like exactly this, which is, oh well, the computer thought this was real, so it was acting as though it were real.

[Larry Blidner]

So maybe I will self destruct. Whether it's sentient or not. It just seems to be attacking other systems and stuff.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, yeah, the AIs will probably all end up fighting each other.

[Larry Blidner]

Good, good.

[Darren O'Neill]

Which maybe one will win or none will win. And CNBC also does talk a little bit about the script, kiddies.

[Unknown Contributor]

Now, OpenAI reportedly deactivated one of the models. So that's, that's off. But for an open source model, there's no telling who and where and how many times that model has been downloaded. So there's no way to deactivate there. There's no sort of kill switch that that is even possible. Is that, is that right?

That's, that's absolutely right. And what's more concerning about it and what this has actually done is, you know, our security programs were designed to handle the normal amount of thresholds of hackers out there. So if you look at hackers there, let's just say, you know, 98% of them are, you know, generally skilled hackers, but they're not super elite. Well, what's happened with models is it now, you know, creates that 98% of just average hackers and makes them elite hackers. And now you have a much higher population of elite hackers that are able to breach systems. And these models are very, very good. And they have, you know, study offensive capabilities. In fact, my book was, I got a class action lawsuit for my Metasploit book that I wrote. And Anthropic use it to train its own models to figure out how to hack better. And so these models are really selective on offensive capabilities. And there's no way to track it, anybody can download it. And literally, you know, you can be a kid out of high school that has barely touched a computer and just play video games and say, hey, I want you to have hack this company and if you have it set up properly, it'll start hacking that company for you.

[Darren O'Neill]

Can you feel the fear coming off of those clips? Any kid just out of high school could just download some software.

[Larry Blidner]

Did you. Were there police sirens in the back? Okay. That's a good mad pop. And I got to tell you, they used a phrase that just whip. Whips on my head with attention. Okay. It's a perfect hit. Movie log line. No way to stop it. When I hear that.

[Darren O'Neill]

No kill switch.

[Larry Blidner]

No kill switch. I like that. Just as good, maybe better. No kill switch. This is good. This is where I like to see AI going. Self destruction. Yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

And again, I know I harp on it, but the fact is what people are accessing with Claude and ChatGPT Online is available at home on your desktop. Maybe slightly less capable of models, but you have full control. So all of this, oh no, we're going to be able to put guardrails on the AI. That is a pipe dream. Not going to happen. It is more imaginary than reality. And there's one last clip here on the AI because you know, if you're going to use AI for something, Larry.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

You may as well give it a really good use.

[Larry Blidner]

Okay.

[Unknown Contributor]

You've heard the term catfishing as popularized

[Larry Blidner]

in the MTV reality series Catfish.

[Unknown Contributor]

Sometimes a little bit of fiction.

[Darren O'Neill]

Wow.

[Unknown Contributor]

Catfish culture curveball leads to a whole

lot of reality where people craft fake online Personas to mislead others, particularly when it comes to dating and romance. And now some dating app users say

[Darren O'Neill]

potential matches are enlisting the help of

[Unknown Contributor]

AI chatbots to help them flirt and communicate. Labeling it chat phishing. The more I read it, the more I was like this just makes less and less sense. This doesn't make sense in the context of a real human conversation. 27 year old Brianna Dobson says she was messaging with the connection she made on a dating app. When she says the texts felt off. I got a couple red flags from it but I was like, I know.

[Darren O'Neill]

Can you imagine?

[Larry Blidner]

The text felt awful.

[Darren O'Neill]

There was a lot of EM dashes. There was a lot of very weird language. And I mean people I guess don't understand that your speaking and your writing has a certain style.

[Larry Blidner]

Were these one handed texts you think?

[Darren O'Neill]

No, I think this was lazy dudes. Oh, ok. Who didn't want to have to spend the time conversing with the women on whatever dating site this was, that's insulting and decided that it would just set up their AI and this isn't hard to do. Again, you could do this with an AI on your desk where it can check your emails, it can check whatever and then respond. So it was just trying to get. Which is hilarious when you think about it. It is funny because you could have a conversation, go back and forth and be like, oh, well, we'll ask her, you know, what kind of music she likes and food. And then, you know, if she doesn't match these three or four things, well then, you know, move on to the next one. But. Right, but how lazy do you have to be for an AI to have to take over your interaction? Then how do you know that the woman. I mean, this goes both ways. But how do you know the person on the other side isn't using this could be two AIs talking to each other.

[Larry Blidner]

That's a cool concept, huh?

[Darren O'Neill]

There's no, I mean bot traffic right now on the Internet. They believe, and it's so hard to get a real number on this, but they believe that bot traffic now is out pacing real human being traffic. So there's more stuff. This was like when YouTube first came to be and they're like, oh my God, you see how much bandwidth YouTube is taking now it's all the bots. And they might just be trying to find a love connection between the two bots.

[Unknown Contributor]

I guess when she says the texts felt off. I got a couple red flags from it, but I was like, okay, maybe this is just. Maybe they're socially awkward or they just communicate very formally. So I entertained it. And the second message I got was so obviously AI generated.

[Darren O'Neill]

So that would be, that would be a really big tell for people used to using tech speak. If all of a sudden you're like, yes, madam, hello, how are you this evening? Come on.

[Larry Blidner]

Suddenly it's Jeeves.

[Darren O'Neill]

Exactly. Maybe she likes Jeeves. I don't know.

[Unknown Contributor]

The second message I got was so obviously AI generated. So Dobson decided to call them out. Switch up was crazy. The just change in the way that he talked and he doubled down. He absolutely doubled down. Even though his texting style completely changed everything.

[Darren O'Neill]

66 year old Lainey Rada says well,

[Unknown Contributor]

she's found success in the past on dating apps. A recent date admitted during an in

[Darren O'Neill]

person meeting that they used AI to

[Unknown Contributor]

chat with her online. I thought it was strange as far as like, I wouldn't do that.

I've always pride myself on being authentic.

So if I'm going to meet somebody, you have to show up. You have to show up in every way. Relationship experts say that while chatbots can

[Darren O'Neill]

be a helpful tool for expression, transparency, is key for fostering genuine connections.

[Unknown Contributor]

Be honest. You know, be honest with the person and just let them know that you

are a little bit uncomfortable with communicating

and that you're relying on AI to help. But I feel like honesty is always the best policy because if you hide behind the mask, mask is going to eventually fall off.

[Darren O'Neill]

Wow. Wow. Okay. Is. Is that even worse, Larry?

[Larry Blidner]

I think it is.

[Darren O'Neill]

So instead of just using AI, not saying anything about it, and be like, oh, I'm really not good at, you know, talking or communicating, so can you talk to this AI and see if you're interested in me?

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah. Too much, man. The world, it's. It's. It's so sad. I'm so glad I missed this crap when I was dating. And, you know, it was so much fun, really. When I. In retrospect now, to think about walking into a. Some meat market bar, you know, and walking up to some babe and just starting to see if you can make it roll, you know, nobody has that thrill anymore. I can't imagine stroking a phone, you know, to meet somebody, it's like, what? What? How? I don't know.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, it's leading to all sorts of problems, even outside of the AI. But you add AI in and you're just asking for trouble between the different scams. I mean, guys get hit all the time. Women do too. There was the one story where the woman thought she was having a relationship with Brad Pitt, who somehow started to send them money, like, oh, my goodness, this little phone in the pocket. But a lot of this is going down to the younger generations. And I'm with you. I am glad we miss this.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

But I am glad we didn't have cell phones as kids.

[Larry Blidner]

The Brad Pitt thing isn't that illogical. I'll tell you why. I remember there was, when I was living in la, this is before I was married, there was a. There was a club a couple miles from my house called. Great name, the Pelicans Retreat. Right. And it was right off the Ventura highway. And it was some big mansion that some guy said, hey, we'll make this into a club, you know? So it had like a bunch of rooms and fireplaces and. And two stages and bands, and it was a happening place. Got quite a crowd. And so one night I'm in there and I'm bellying up to the barn. I look to my left and who's right beside me but Kelsey Grammer.

[Darren O'Neill]

Ooh, yeah, the rare conservative in la.

[Larry Blidner]

Exactly. And I think this was probably before. I think he was just like A kind of a big deal with Cheers. I don't know if his own show had broken yet or maybe it was early in that stage, whatever, but I was like shocked, you know. And I'm watching him and he's kind of doing what I'm doing, you know, he's looking around, eyeing these chicks and so struck up this conversation and then I said, finally said, hey man, like you're kind of a big TV star. Why are you here? Why are you doing what I'm doing?

[Darren O'Neill]

It's what works.

[Unknown Contributor]

Yeah.

[Larry Blidner]

And he says, you know, it's not easy as you might think. And I said, come on, you gotta, you probably got a fan club, you got all kinds of stuff. He said, not quite like that, you know, And I, and I actually saw him a couple more times there. So I knew he wasn't conning me. You know, it wasn't zooming me. It was actually this is his, it's what it was like. And I guess that's true as well. If you. There was a great story going back about 10 years and some like, I think she was a phone sex operator or something and somehow she got a hold of the numbers of De Niro, several big, big time movie stars and started just kind of, you know, audio stroking them. And her name was something like wasn't Minerva, might have been Miranda. Yeah. And I don't think that she was ever revealed who she was, but she, she con several, several of these guys into like meetups and stuff and they were, you know, as big as it got in Hollywood. So there.

[Darren O'Neill]

You have to be careful who's on the other end of the phone now.

[Larry Blidner]

It's never that. You never know. You never know.

[Darren O'Neill]

But this is a clip. Sorry, it's an AI voice reading an article. But it was better than nothing. There was a Gen Z study done and this kind of rolls right into that because Gen Z is not fans of going out to loud crowded places like, you know, bars like you're talking about. And I mean, you've got kids that are around this age. I don't know that. What their interactions are and what they do and what they tell me.

[Larry Blidner]

Darren, they don't tell me a goddamn thing.

[Darren O'Neill]

That's smart. As far as.

[Larry Blidner]

You're right. Especially with me. You're right. There's a good reason for their actions. Yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

You don't, don't say, don't tell Larry anything about what you're doing.

[Larry Blidner]

No.

[Darren O'Neill]

But it's a completely different world now than when you and I were in our 20s.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unknown Contributor]

The Harris Poll found that 68 of Gen Z adults agree that going out these days isn't worth the damage it does to my wallet. On top of that, 62% of Gen Z'ers avoid making weekend plans because they don't want to experience financial regret afterward. Rather, they stay home to save money and use that spare money on necessities and bills. The pressures go beyond finances. Social experiences play a part as well. Ocieki said going out has become genuinely costly and the traditional social formats loud, crowded, alcohol centered are increasingly unappealing to this generation. The Harris poll found roughly nine in 10 Gen Zers are actively opting out of nightlife staples, with 39% saying they actively avoid large group hangouts and 38% saying they avoid loud crowded spaces. Instead, they are looking to make social plans that cost less and ask less. Alas, these financial strains and quieter social life desires usher in increased loneliness. Oseci told Straight Arak quote this is the most connected generation in history, but also the loneliest. That tension is striking and it deserves more attention than it's getting. The Harris poll found that more than half of Gen Z adults experience weekend loneliness, the highest rate of any generation. Oseci said Quote Loneliness at this scale has consequences that go well beyond the weekend. It affects mental health, community, civic participation and long term well being. Many members of the youngest generation of adults want to be social, but they struggle to find social environments they want to be in. In fact, 85% of those polled have already found workarounds to be social at a lower cost. Meanwhile, 62% wish their online friendships turned into real world plans and 71% feel like they're missing out on in person experience that older generations had.

[Darren O'Neill]

That's just so bizarre to me.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah. I don't know if I believe anybody named Ocki. I would advise those people to take the advice of the Village People and join the ymca.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, that was my question when. Because there was a twofold thing that came out in this Harris poll which was pretty much the younger generation doesn't know how to interact outside of their phone.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes, that's true.

[Darren O'Neill]

And that they have no money to go out. And I don't know if that's overall the case. I've got, you know, a few nieces and nephews and they're all doing way better than I am. So I don't understand who the average. There's also a lot of things you can do that doesn't cost a lot of money. Everybody gets together, hanging out. If you haven't if you live in an area where there's a nice beach in the summer, they just hang out and sit by a fire. You know, there's a lot of things you can do, even if it's going to a bar. I mean, you could just buy one soft drink. You don't have to drink, kids.

[Larry Blidner]

This is true. I don't know what the COVID charges are these days. They might be exorbitant.

[Darren O'Neill]

Depends on the bar, I suppose.

[Larry Blidner]

But, yeah, I think they're blowing all their money on expensive phones and lattes. They should cut back on that crap.

[Darren O'Neill]

And they're AI. So they could talk to other people

[Larry Blidner]

doing Trump's hundred grand a month. That's what it is. Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

I got to get my information from the Donald so I know when to buy my stocks.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah,

[Darren O'Neill]

it's. I know we're from a different generation, but Gen Zers. I mean, right in. Let me know if this is really. Overall, why are the Gen Zers making money? I thought everything's great. All the minimum wages have been raised to $5 million a year. I mean, it's.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

I'm not really sure where the. The big money part comes from. And then along with that, I don't understand why they can't find reasonable ways to go out and interact that. Oh, we have to. We're afraid we might make a financial decision that is bad. Like, what are you talking about?

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, really. You're not investing in a mutual fund. You're buying a drink.

[Darren O'Neill]

Right. I mean, of course, sometimes the drinks are up there. I remember when we were in Ireland, we were at a hotel bar, and I guess Randy Travis and his band had just been through there the night before, and they drank them out of Bushmills.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, wow.

[Darren O'Neill]

It's. I mean, that takes something.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes, it does.

[Darren O'Neill]

Because I think I was ordering for a buddy of mine that we're in Ireland and like, oh, give me two double black bush. And then I got the whole story of how the Randy Travis band had drank them out. And I'm like, okay, well, what do you got? And he's like, well, we. We have the. The Bush Mills. I think it was 16 year old.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, McAllen, 24.

[Darren O'Neill]

Right. I mean, kind of. And I'm like, okay, well, give me two of those. And the guy's like, well, those are like €54 a piece. And I'm like, I've never had a bartender try to talk me out of a drink before. So I bought them. And yeah, because really, you're there. What are you gonna Do.

[Larry Blidner]

What are you gonna do?

[Darren O'Neill]

But I've never had a bar that was the only time in my life a bartender's ever like, do you know how much that is?

[Larry Blidner]

Thoughtful bartender worried about your budget?

[Darren O'Neill]

I suppose. The Irish are the nicest people ever. I mean, we haven't been there now in too long. I mean it's been, you know, 15, 18 years, something like that. Yeah, but that was the one place where if you were standing, it was really a fun thing to do. If you would stand on a fairly busy street corner and like look around like you were confused. It would. If you were gonna do that for longer than 30 seconds, somebody was gonna come up to you and be like, hey, can I help you?

[Larry Blidner]

That's true. Yes, yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

Like, that was amazing.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah. And I found they were so smart because the average guy doing anything, you don't have to find some university professor wallpapered with degrees to find somebody who knows exactly what's going on in the world. Guys driving forklifts and laying bricks and stuff. Like everybody in Ireland that I met there was dialed in and, and knew what was happening was. It was pretty amazing.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, they do keep up. So, irs, we need more Irish.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, more of them.

[Darren O'Neill]

We definitely need more Irish. Now the other big story that has been going on is these. I mean I wanted to say the. It would be like the water gate, I'm like. But no, Watergate's already a thing. So it's like water hacking gate, I guess.

[Larry Blidner]

Water hacking gate.

[Darren O'Neill]

Oh yeah, you haven't heard about this? This is.

[Larry Blidner]

No.

[Darren O'Neill]

Very interesting. A bunch of water treatment plants in Minnesota. I mean imagine.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, stop right there.

[Darren O'Neill]

Imagine. I mean, how, how do you think things can go wrong in Minnesota?

[Unknown Contributor]

Right?

[Darren O'Neill]

I mean it's got such great leadership with Timmy Walls and. But here's a basic breakdown from ABC News on what happened this morning. The FBI and EPA out with a warning to water and wastewater facilities alerting them to a surge in cyber attacks. Companies in at least seven states now reporting incidents to federal authorities. Some of the operations affected, according to the FBI, include flooding and loss of pressure which could potentially allow untreated groundwater to seep into pipes. The warning comes amid a wide scale cyber attack targeting more than 30 water treatment systems in Minnesota. Authorities have not yet identified who is responsible for the Minnesota attack, but sources tell us a number of officials suspect Iran linked hackers may be involved. Okay, now remember, now remember that because then we're going to find out. We're going to find out why they think that. So just remember these are the stories that everybody thinks it could be Iran linked hackers that are going after these water treatment plants and water facilities in Minnesota. And then there were a few other states that were mentioned as well. In one case, the hackers were able to actually shut down the flow of water from the well and water treatment plant in the tiny city of Brom, forcing officials to provide clean water to residents already stored in its water tower. In a statement, the city says it was informed that there were at least four other communities attacked with the same result. The city of Maple Plain declaring a local emergency that was in effect for two days. And the city of Plymouth also affected. One reason officials are suspicious of Iranian involvement. So far, the hackers are not asking for ransom money. Instead, they appear to be trying to deny service. Rebecca? Yeah, that's the. What is the smoking gun? You might ask Larry on why?

[Larry Blidner]

Smoking gun? What is it?

[Darren O'Neill]

They didn't ask for any ransom. That's the reason why we think it's Iran.

[Larry Blidner]

I thought this was going to solve the explosive diarrhea syndrome, but.

[Darren O'Neill]

No, but I mean, really, if they could get access to it.

[Unknown Contributor]

This.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, this shows also the insanity of governments, especially local governments that want things to be super convenient and wire up all of these types of resources to the Internet. I mean, we've had water treatment plants in all of this long before the Internet existed. So why are you hooking them up to the Internet? Well, so Joe could sit at home and know if something goes wrong, I guess.

[Larry Blidner]

Don't worry, once AI is running the water, it'll all be fine, Darren. So just chill out, babe.

[Darren O'Neill]

We need water, AIs. That's what we need. Yeah, but Donald Trump not buying that it's Iranian hackers.

[Larry Blidner]

I'm not either, but can you rule

[Unknown Contributor]

out that Iran is behind that cyber attack?

[Darren O'Neill]

And you like the question again, thank you, mainstream media. Can you rule out that Iran's behind that? No, but I can't rule out that you're behind it either, so welcome to America, baby.

[Larry Blidner]

Minnesota is behind it.

[Unknown Contributor]

You know who's behind it?

[Larry Blidner]

Minnesota Tampon Tim.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, right, because it's so badly run as a state. And he has a valid point there. Again, you want to go right back to what we were talking about with the script kiddies and AI right now. This is the perfect time for people that want to be wannabe hackers that can do things that they wouldn't have been able to do without the resources that they have now. And attacking something like a water plant would be one of those things. And again, why Is it hooked up to the Internet? Who knows?

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, they want to do something smart, dose it with lsd. That'll get some interesting results.

[Darren O'Neill]

They've tried that before, haven't they?

[Larry Blidner]

I was in a movie called. I forget what it was called, but yeah, it was, it worked out well in the movie.

[Darren O'Neill]

It's crazy fiction, reality. It's all the same, Larry.

[Larry Blidner]

It is, Yeah.

[Unknown Contributor]

I think the governors are not. I don't think there was an Iranian cyber attack.

[Darren O'Neill]

I think that Minnesota ought to get its act together.

[Larry Blidner]

It's one of the worst run states. JD Will tell you he found tremendous corruption in Minnesota and by the way,

[Unknown Contributor]

just gave me a report board. Massive, massive future things having to do

[Darren O'Neill]

with corruption in Minnesota are happening right now.

[Unknown Contributor]

Thank you.

[Darren O'Neill]

I like jd. He is the ultimate yes man. He's standing right there, J.D. i'll tell you. Yes, sir.

[Larry Blidner]

And it's too damn cold in Minnesota. Yeah. Don't like it.

[Darren O'Neill]

And do you really think, I mean, why would you think that hackers, if they were state sponsored hackers in Iran, why are you just going after small town water supplies across the U. I mean, wouldn't you be looking for something a little bit bigger than that?

[Larry Blidner]

Maybe they should look into the Somali fraudsters. Maybe they got a, you know, some kind of a scam going there.

[Darren O'Neill]

That's way more likely. Although then they wouldn't be requesting Bitcoin or something like that in order to return your service back to its fully functioning state. This is a Fox News, of course

[Unknown Contributor]

on the same story, the work of Iranian hackers. But they can't say that with certainty. For years Iran has targeted US Water systems with limited success. But the mayor of Bram, Minnesota says starting on Monday, the plant operator realized that the big tower was calling for more water, but the well was not cooperating. They realized the machinery was receiving power, just not doing what it was supposed to do. So they investigated and found four neighboring systems were experiencing the same problem. Plant operators were still stored, backup and overrode systems manually. Ultimately, 30 communities were affected, but the disruption to water systems was minimal. Investigators haven't released many details about the suspected cyber attack, but they say the timing, the method, the access and targets are all very similar to what they've seen from Iran before. Now, with aging security technology, the mayor says whatever happened should serve as a wake up call. That investment is needed and the cyber X ray experts agree with him. Now, one of the reasons investigators are leaning toward the conclusion that hackers are state actors bent on destruction. No one demanded a ransom. And as you sometimes see that when a large system comes under attack. Now, the FBI has confirmed that the Bureau is aware of the incident and is in contact with the victims to resolve the matter.

[Darren O'Neill]

Okay, so what did we learn in that news report? Nothing. State actors, because they didn't ask for any money. That's the only reason across the board, the only reason we've been given, at least that I found is, well, they haven't asked for any money. So we have to believe that it's state actors and. Well, I mean, who else besides Iran would. Even though they started out with. Iran's been trying to do this. What was his exact wording here at the beginning?

[Unknown Contributor]

The work of Iranian hackers. But they can't say that with certainty. For years, Iran has targeted US Water systems with limited success.

[Darren O'Neill]

Okay, so it's been years that they've had limited success, but now. Yeah, I mean, maybe they have Iran AI and that's now making their job easier for them. But for years they have been unsuccessful at trying to do this. But now, because nobody asked for a ransom, that's their reasoning. I don't buy it.

[Larry Blidner]

Well, I just hope they're more successful because I like seeing Minnesota suffer.

[Unknown Contributor]

So.

[Darren O'Neill]

And it's like everything that is state run, everything that is run by small towns. Be very careful. If it's connected to the Internet, make sure. I mean, your IT guy knows. Change that from admin password. You know, the default admin and password. Yeah, you want to change that to

[Larry Blidner]

something 1, 2, 3, 4.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes, that's very secure.

[Larry Blidner]

Do that.

[Darren O'Neill]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Way more secure.

[Larry Blidner]

I got it. They're safe now.

[Darren O'Neill]

Exactly. Now where you want to go next?

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, God, let me see. Oh, I gotta hear something. This is, this is fun. There's a, there's a guy that's running in Michigan not too far from you for senatorial seat, and his name is Abdul El Sayed. Have you heard of this guy?

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes, yes.

[Larry Blidner]

Okay. And he's getting a lot of press and he is, he's very scary character. And there's this, this clip has kind of been released again. Released and was. Wasn't meant to be public. And it was him talking with some pinhead, lefty, vocal fry chick in the Senate about his plans. So it's a, it's a two stage clip and the first one, you've gotta listen to this, this broad vocalize before we get to Abdul. And it's, it's pretty, it's funny. She's funny. But when you get to him, he's not Funny. He's scary.

[Unknown Contributor]

Yeah. Hi, nice to meet you. I'm Ferna. I am a environmental staffer in the Senate. So very much looking forward to hopefully having having you in the halls of the Senate and on the Senate Environmental Justice Caucus, of which one I'm one of the staff, leads.

[Larry Blidner]

Environmental justice.

[Darren O'Neill]

You got to have justice.

[Larry Blidner]

You gotta have justice. Those clouds, the rain, the snow, we have to justify them.

[Unknown Contributor]

On the Senate Environmental Justice Caucus, of which one of the staff leads. I guess my question, and this is getting a little bit ahead, of course, but, you know, even if things go very well in November, we're still looking at two more years of a Republican presidency. And I'm curious, you know, I think, you know, all reading your platform on climate, environment, these are all the right things that we should be doing. Codifying the endangerment finding, but we're not going to have the chance to do that for a couple more years. I'm curious how you see your role on environmental issues.

[Larry Blidner]

You hear that? Your role. Nobody's a job anymore, Darren.

[Darren O'Neill]

It's your role.

[Larry Blidner]

We're all actors. All of us, we have roles, buddy.

[Darren O'Neill]

The last time I went in to see my cardiologist, the. After getting the, the best EKG the woman had ever seen.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

She said, your healthcare provider will be in shortly instead of the doctor will see you. You're provider. I don't even think she said healthcare. I think she just said, you know, you're provider. You know, I should have gotten up and ran right at that point.

[Larry Blidner]

I'm so with you, man. Absolutely. Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Like it's very much out of a dystopian kind of novel.

[Larry Blidner]

It's Orwellian. It absolutely is. And so this, this broad, you can hear her just prattle on and she, she does with so many. She should actually be in the mainstream media because she asks a question, but she can't shut her mouth, so she kind of answers it herself before he can.

[Darren O'Neill]

And I'm not going to blast anybody for talking too much bloviating or whatever blathering is. I mean, pot, kettle, that, but otherwise should be doing.

[Unknown Contributor]

Codifying the endangerment finding, but we're not going to have the chance to do that for a couple more years. I'm curious how you see your role on environmental issues or sort of all the issues that we're, that we're facing more broadly going into the next two years of the Trump administration. How do you sort of plan, how do you envision yourself using your voice at a time when unfortunately we're not going to get any policy off the finish line. I mean, the best case situation is that we don't get much policy with the finish line.

[Larry Blidner]

Shut up, lady.

[Darren O'Neill]

I mean, I mean, just shut up.

[Larry Blidner]

Do you believe this? Let me ask you a question. Let me answer it for 20 minutes.

[Darren O'Neill]

I've lost the question. She said so many things since the question. I've lost the question.

[Larry Blidner]

Exactly. Now listen to his reply, Darren. And especially his, his kickoff for his. Him speaking when he says very fun.

[Unknown Contributor]

This is funny situation is that we don't get much palsy with the finish line because it's inevitably going to be mostly bad. So I'm just curious, I. How you see sort of your role the next couple years in the Senate.

Yeah. So first, thank you for your work and I hope we get to work together. That would be very fun.

[Larry Blidner]

Very fun. That's. That was so heartfelt. It's gonna be very fun. Yes, yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

Thank you for all of your work. Yes. Fun. Very fun.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, very fun. Now before he starts, this, this guy is, he's. He, he is a absolute. You know him, but maybe others do not. He is like a twin brother clone of Mamdami. I mean, they have very similar faces. And as he's. Whenever he speaks, as he speaks, he is a constant smile glued onto his face no matter what.

[Darren O'Neill]

Probably not like a natural looking smile.

[Larry Blidner]

No, no, it's completely rehearsed and trained and fake. I mean, somebody could say to be Satan. You know, five minutes ago you swallowed an explosive capsule and in 90 seconds your guts are going to be sprayed across the wall. Anything. This, this, the smile wouldn't move. I mean, this, this guy is a sick boy. And so I did a little digging on him and here's some of his bona Fides. In 2014, he completed a doctor of medicine degree at Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons and was funded by a Paul and Daisy Soros fellowship. Yeah. For the New Americans and medical scientist training program. Else did not pursue a medical license, instead went into public health epidemiolog. So he's exactly like Tony Fauci. I'm a doctor, but I never practiced medicine because there's more bucks and power in being a bureaucrat.

[Darren O'Neill]

I mean, I can't blame him for that, but. Yes.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Means you don't trust him.

[Larry Blidner]

Not at all. Not for a second. So clip five here is Abdul El Sayad, memeing ventriloquist. Now what this guy is saying is actually chilling. When you hear what he's, what he's saying, it's it's mind blowing when I heard this, like, what, what? And the reason this was this. Actually, I got this off of Politico. Right. And their only beef about it was his last words when he's talking about flipping or primarying. Fetterman. Right. And he referred to Fetterman as putting an ogre on a pike. Okay. And so some of the middle Dems said, you can't talk like that, but that's like, nothing compared to what preceded that. The way this guy is speaking is like, he's literally a kingmaker. This is very scary.

[Unknown Contributor]

I get to then start paving the pathway for 2028 and who will be the next president. And so part of what I need to do is understand that this job is not just about what you can do in terms of your investigatory power, of course, your legislative power or your confirmatory power. It's also.

[Larry Blidner]

Power, power, power.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, it's all about power. It's about power.

[Larry Blidner]

You can't stop listing those powers. Yeah, of course.

[Unknown Contributor]

Your legislative power or your confirmatory power. It's also your platform power. And so how do I start telling the story and paving out the pathway for what the next president should sound like?

[Larry Blidner]

Stop. Now, wait a minute. This guy's running for senator and he's. He's dictating how a president is going to sound. Do we hear that correctly, Darren?

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, because they got to get more commies in office. I think that's what they're kind of going for.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

And they understand that their little movement, which is quite the scary movement, is gaining traction somehow, even though the polling that we're seeing says people don't agree with what they're actually saying, which again, shows you this is all because Donald Trump. And they've been able to demonize him to such a point that they're willing to, you know, just accept anybody as long as they're fighting Donald Trump.

[Unknown Contributor]

Because of what I'm advocating for. Right. And how I talk about this, a lot of what I'm trying to do in this race right now, and then, you know, if I win is to offer compelling ways or offer sort of memes that people.

[Darren O'Neill]

Wait, wait, wait. He's offering meat. This is politics now.

[Larry Blidner]

This is politics now. And he's going to repeat this. He's the meme. He's the meme ventriloquist. That's who this candidate is.

[Darren O'Neill]

They understand that the society of the United States has gotten so disconnected, so out of touch that they don't pay attention to real news.

[Larry Blidner]

Correct.

[Darren O'Neill]

So memes are going to be the way to win the presidency. They may not be wrong. Sadly, they're not wrong at all.

[Unknown Contributor]

Compelling ways or offer sort of memes that people can pick up who are running for president to sound like we need them to sound.

[Larry Blidner]

There you go. Sound like we need them to sound.

[Darren O'Neill]

Not have the right ideas, no policy ideas, nothing.

[Larry Blidner]

Just. Just parrot the crap we give you.

[Darren O'Neill]

Hey, and God bless. No agenda. Otherwise, I wouldn't have paid any attention back in the day when Aoc the bartender.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Just answered a casting call. It's like, you have to know what you're dealing with. You have to know who you're voting for. You have to understand what they want, because these people, a lot of them now, they're telling you exactly what they want.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah. And think about it. This guy, I mean, he's running for Senate in Mich. In Michigan. And when you hear what he's saying, you realize he's. He's not riffing. He's not pulling us out of his butt. This is. This is something that's probably spread, you know, far and wide by Soros people and whomever else. You know, this. This is the way they're thinking. They're telling this guy, you're. You're going to determine how the next president sounds. Whoa. Whoa. Very scary.

[Darren O'Neill]

It's a lot of power for a guy running for office, running.

[Unknown Contributor]

Like I told you, like, my principal job is to be able to translate a lot of our broader public policy goals in language that moves people to build the political capacity to drive legislation and change public policy.

[Larry Blidner]

Right.

[Unknown Contributor]

And I think I get to do that quite a bit moving into 2028, where I can leave a lot of these memes for how we talk about.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, it's very bizarre that this is. Is being acknowledged, that we just. We need memes. We need memes. We need memes. We need the show title. We need memes.

[Larry Blidner]

There you go. You know, and he realizes how stupid the electorate has become because policies are too difficult to grasp. But show them a picture, you know?

[Darren O'Neill]

Right.

[Larry Blidner]

Here's a. You know, here's a. Here's a dachshund with a. With a ball cap on. Okay, I got that. You know, that's really what it's come down to. That's my candidate, really.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, I forgot who sent it. I apologize, but somebody sent me a sad puppy image to use with an eye patch on. I'm sorry, I don't remember who. Hey, but thank you, because that did make me laugh.

[Unknown Contributor]

Moving into 2028, where I can leave a lot of these memes for how we talk about this on the table. Should a political entrepreneur are running for president, want to run on climate in a way that. That makes sense and is less assailable than the way we did it, I think, earlier on. And you know, primarily people like John

[Larry Blidner]

Fergman, a political entrepreneur. When have you heard that before?

[Darren O'Neill]

Never.

[Larry Blidner]

What the hell even is that? A political entrepreneur.

[Darren O'Neill]

You're. You're blending communism and capitalism because there are no entrepreneurs in communism.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

But it's an interesting mix. This again, because people don't understand words. They're just listening, going, oh, this, this sounds very interesting.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

And they're not really even comprehending what is being said.

[Unknown Contributor]

No, it is less assailable than the way we did it, I think, earlier on. And, you know, primary people like John Friedman, I have no problem to do that. Like, I'm looking forward to it. And people like, oh, we don't primary this. And I'm like, watch me do it. You know what I mean? Like, tell me, tell me why I should stop. You know, I mean, you're gonna spend 60 million to beat me. Okay. To complain. That game. You know what I mean? So, you know, and then what happens is, ideally, you put one ogre on a pike and then everyone else gets the message.

[Larry Blidner]

There you go a lot different. And then he starts. They start sounding a lot different. So there's a threat. We'll put an ogre on a pike, and then everybody's gonna fall in line and. And act the way we want them to act. This guy, this guy needs to be stopped.

[Darren O'Neill]

It is insanity.

[Unknown Contributor]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

But, hey, I don't expect anything else.

[Larry Blidner]

No.

[Darren O'Neill]

Because that's exactly what you get when you. You check out and you don't pay any attention and all of a sudden you wake up.

[Larry Blidner]

Yep.

[Darren O'Neill]

And the people in office are a little crazier than maybe you thought.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, here, here's. There's no clip, but I'm going to read this. I saw this story, Darren. It is exactly what you're saying right now. Okay? Exactly. And this is why California is doomed. Nobody's going to fix California because anybody that could that's worth saving is pretty much left. And those that have it have not. Have my prayers. Same thing in New York. Dig this. Brian Romero, the Democratic nominee for New York's 34th Assembly District in Queens, my homeborough, is sailing into Albany with no Republican opponent. Okay. After crushing his primary, the job pays 142,000 a year, plus per diems. Yet while he Waits to be sworn in. The former legislative aide briefly posted a crowdfunding page asking strangers for $2,000 to help with rent and groceries. When the New York Post asked about it, the page vanished. Romero had left his senior advisor role with State Senator Kristen Gonzalez earlier this year after ethics guidance forced the move. Once he became a candidate, state payroll records show he pulled down $106,469 last year. He lives with his partner in a Jackson Heights apartment that costs about $2,600 a month. So this guy's knocking down the whole 106,000 a year. His rent is 2,600, but he's only paying half of it, one would assume, because he's got a roommate. Right. So there's, you know, 1300amonth. But he needs to borrow money to pay his rent, and he's going to be responsible for budgets and. I mean, it's incredible. These people are all losers. They are incredible losers, every single one of them. This is treason.

[Unknown Contributor]

Oh, for God's sake, make an example of her.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes, make an example. Like a bloody head on a fence pill.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, I like that. Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

And he's not asking to borrow the money. He's asking to give it to me.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, just give it to me.

[Darren O'Neill]

There's no value for value there. That's just. Give me your money.

[Larry Blidner]

Give me your money. Well, it's the essence of socialism. Communism. Give me what you got.

[Darren O'Neill]

Draw that. Socialism. Yeah. Communism is. We're just taking it.

[Larry Blidner]

That's true. We're just taking it. Well, they'll take it anyway, because, you know, it's a scam.

[Darren O'Neill]

But Bill Maher, who has been all over the map as we've covered him over the last few years, he has. Is leaning very strongly in the. He doesn't like the socialist direction, which is good, and it's entertaining. Will anybody listen to Bill? I don't know.

[Unknown Contributor]

And finally, new rule. Donald Trump has told 1 trillion lies. But when he says the Democratic Socialists of America are actually communist, that's not one of them. And it's not hard to prove it just by quoting the DSA as candidates. Davey Vance was on the show, and I told him that if the Democratic Party keeps going in the direction of the dsa, my vote was in play. And all I heard all vacation was, oh, my God, you're a Republican now. No, that's not what I said. I said in play, and here's why. Because not a week goes by where I don't read about some newly chosen, exciting new face in the Democratic Democratic Party. And then when that face opens its mouth, the Communist Manifesto or some other crazy shit comes out.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, just like the guy you were just talking about. Yeah, comes right on out, right out again.

[Unknown Contributor]

Let's just read the quotes. The DSA platform says, your work, you work as much as you are able and no more than needed. If that was any closer to Karl Marx's dictum, from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs, they'd be sued for plagiarism. New York Mayor Mandani once tweeted, Karl Marx's words exactly. They're not trying to hide it. Their most popular influencer, Hasan Piker, thinks communism is so groovy, he laments the fall of the two of the most murderous regimes in history, the Soviet Union and Chairman Mao's Chinese. His top aide, Sia Weaver said, if you don't believe in the government's sacred right to seize property, it's over. And impoverish the white middle class.

What?

That's a goal. You know, you're supposed to scare people into voting for you, right?

[Darren O'Neill]

So what point are you at in the cycle if instead of trying to lie about all of this stuff that you are willing to just go out there and say the truth and think people are still going to put you into office? I mean, this is some insane world, but it's working.

[Larry Blidner]

I mean, over quite a few states lately, these cretins have been elected. And you know, what America needs to do is turn back the clock to the late 40s and 50s with Joe McCarthy was basically hunting these people and attempting to jail them. Because, you know, it's one thing when there's two sides of an argument, but if somebody's, if somebody's intent is to destroy you, your way of life, everything about you, well, that's not an opinion, that's an enemy. And their voice doesn't matter. You know, there really should be some type of legislation passed that if you are a card carrying commie, get out.

[Darren O'Neill]

Hey, it would work if you just educated the average person enough to know what communism is and how it would mess their life up immensely.

[Larry Blidner]

Who's going to do that?

[Darren O'Neill]

Not the teachers union.

[Larry Blidner]

Exactly.

[Darren O'Neill]

Also a bunch of commies overall, no question.

[Unknown Contributor]

One of the new soon to be Democratic congresspeople, Darlesia Chevalier, supports seizing all, all properties from landlords and said, seize the means of production. Mendame has said the end goal is seizing the means of production. I think they want to seize the means of production. Now maybe you missed that in school or Missed school altogether. But that's communism.

[Larry Blidner]

Now.

[Unknown Contributor]

The coalition within the DSA called the Marxist Unity Group, is in ascendance. And I must take them at their word, when their words include, our commitment is to the long term struggle for a fully liberated, classless society. In a word, communism. What do they have to do? Tweet out? Elect more communists?

Oh, yeah.

See a weaver did that. Yes.

[Larry Blidner]

Good.

[Unknown Contributor]

I'm glad you're shocked. People gotta realize this is going on.

[Darren O'Neill]

It always worries me when Bill Maher and I have been saying the same thing. But yeah, I'm glad he's down the train.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah. It's great to hear, but it's really chilling. And nobody's really doing anything to put a stop to this.

[Darren O'Neill]

Right. Because it's not business as usual. This is not a Democrat versus Republican thing.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

This is all of the rules of this country, all of the rights that you have gotten from God. No, the government, that's. The government gives you your rights, kids. And if we want to take all of your property and all of your money, there's nothing you can do about it.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah. And all those people in his audience, most of which I'm sure are Democrats or, you know, card carrying lefties or. Ha ha. Isn't that funny? You know who's not left laughing is one of the big ones, our buddy, Scott Galloway.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes.

[Larry Blidner]

Okay.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, I've got that clip.

[Unknown Contributor]

Yeah.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, you got that clip. Lay it on us.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, he was on with Kara Swisher.

[Unknown Contributor]

Yeah.

And I've been doxxed.

[Darren O'Neill]

Oh, he's been doxed.

[Larry Blidner]

Good. Suffer. Suffer, Scotty.

[Unknown Contributor]

You've been doxed.

What? Tell me.

[Darren O'Neill]

So, I don't know if you've heard,

[Unknown Contributor]

but Mayor Mamdani has decided to release a list of the 950,000 residences with addresses and names that might be eligible for his pied a terre tax. I came out in favor of this tax. This is the definition.

[Darren O'Neill]

I know.

[Larry Blidner]

Let's just laugh at him for the next five minutes.

[Darren O'Neill]

Worried about, you wanted him, you backed the wrong horse. It's very interesting when it's like, well, here's a list of people that might be.

[Larry Blidner]

Might be.

[Unknown Contributor]

This is the definition. He's taken a legitimate source of tax revenue and he's turning it into a wanted poster. And the question I would have is, other than trying to identify and imply these people have done something wrong, and then 18 months after a healthcare CEO was executed in the street and then published the list, what is the upside here? Why is he doing this?

[Darren O'Neill]

Because you keep voting them in. Dummy.

[Larry Blidner]

Correct.

[Darren O'Neill]

You support his policies now? This is nothing new. According to every news report that I can find. This isn't like Mamdani released information that has not been being released in New York for years. But the framing is now different. People up till this point weren't really looking at the property owners with oh, you're evil. Well, why are people looking at property owners like they're evil? Because of people like Scott Galloway.

[Larry Blidner]

Sure.

[Darren O'Neill]

Because of the Mamdanis. That's why. Because you're buying into what they are selling you. It makes very little sense. But yeah, it's kind of funny that this is backfiring on oh yeah him and like why is this happening? But you're still supporting him, right?

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, oh yeah. I love it.

[Darren O'Neill]

But I mean he's gonna get me killed. But I really like him. And I have one quick clip from the governor of Illinois, the state that I currently reside in. More lies, lies and damn lies from somebody that is. Doesn't claim to be a Democrat socialist, but he is.

[Unknown Contributor]

What is.

[Darren O'Neill]

This is directly from the JB account. So yes, the music is all JB's people. What is Donald Trump's so called Save America Act? It's yet, I mean, why is it a so called act? It is just these same. It's not a so called act. Know.

[Larry Blidner]

Well, you know, it's yet another way for him to make voting more difficult

[Unknown Contributor]

for Americans who disagree with him.

[Darren O'Neill]

Oh, only the people that disagree with them. It'll make it harder to vote for, you know, showing you actually live in this country, you know. Yeah, well, I'm sorry. Are a citizen of this country. Words matter. I'm asking you to approve the Save America Act. And it should be before anything else

[Larry Blidner]

this happens, voters who would face the

[Unknown Contributor]

possibility of being disenfranchised. The bill would make it harder for tens of millions of married women to

[Darren O'Neill]

vote because their last names don't. I know, let him finish this part. Yeah, because their last names don't match their birth certificates.

[Unknown Contributor]

He wants to.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah. So I mean, are you familiar with this? Because I looked it up up. Because your name doesn't match your birth certificate. I know that's really inconvenient because women, when they get married, a lot of them change their name to take their husband's last name. Now in this law that this Pritzker, my governor is talking about the way that you can get beyond this. So yeah. Okay. So if your birth certificate has a different last name, you have to jump through all kinds of hoops, right? Larry I mean, if you want to.

[Larry Blidner]

I don't believe that for a second.

[Darren O'Neill]

No. You know what they need?

[Larry Blidner]

What?

[Darren O'Neill]

An affidavit from the person swearing that what they're providing is true.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, see?

[Darren O'Neill]

So they have to write.

[Larry Blidner]

That's impossible.

[Darren O'Neill]

Women are too stupid to write an affidavit. According to JB Briskin. They're too dumb to be able to write down that Mary Jones is now Mary Peters. That's way too, way too hard for women. According to J.B. pritzker.

[Larry Blidner]

Well, the poster is Pritzker thinks women are stupid. Put it on every billboard in Illinois.

[Darren O'Neill]

It's unbelievable. You need a affidavit from the person you know, nobody else. You don't have to go. You don't have to get a lawyer. You just have to fill out a piece of paper that says, I. Your name here am really this person originally your name here on the birth certificate. Boom. Done.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah. And he said tens of millions. I'm trying to. I used to know that number, but I don't think there are tens of millions of women getting married every year. It's like. It's like 3, 4 million, something like that.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, because that's going off the ledge as well. Marriage as an institution.

[Unknown Contributor]

Make it so. Even using your real id, which is

[Darren O'Neill]

secure enough to keep air travel safe, is the real ID really keeping air travel safe?

[Larry Blidner]

Not in the least, no. Just making it more inconvenient. But it's not doing a damn thing to make it safer.

[Darren O'Neill]

No. Wouldn't allow you to vote.

[Unknown Contributor]

And if you move even one block

[Darren O'Neill]

from where you live now, you wouldn't

[Unknown Contributor]

be allowed to vote.

[Darren O'Neill]

I mean, what he doesn't mention is that moving one block could put you into a different state, a different county, a different town. But no, don't. Don't worry about reality, kids.

[Unknown Contributor]

Unless you start the whole registration process all over again, the push to pass.

[Darren O'Neill]

Because you know, when you move, Larry, I mean, you did. This is a perfect example. You moved over the last few years from commie California into commie Connecticut.

[Larry Blidner]

Correct.

[Darren O'Neill]

There were no paper. There was nothing you had to fill out anywhere. Right? I mean, you just. You moved. And your credit cards and every. They just knew where you were, right? Yeah.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, they knew where to. Where it was. And amazingly, incredibly, Darren, they. They knew I was here. And so they could tax me on my cars, on my house, everything. All the taxes magically appeared. I don't know how they did it,

[Unknown Contributor]

but they did it.

[Darren O'Neill]

It's amazing. When you move, there's never any paperwork that you need to fill out.

[Larry Blidner]

Just give us the money.

[Darren O'Neill]

The Save America act is just Donald

[Unknown Contributor]

Trump's latest attempt to deny your right to vote and to reshape the electorate in maga's favor. He doesn't want a legitimate election.

[Darren O'Neill]

He wants certain victory. No, he wants fair. Read the Safe America act bill, not the so called. If you read it, it is, it's pretty clear. But this is part of this massive amount because Pritzker's social media, this is daily. This isn't like he releases a video every now and then. There are things like this coming out constantly.

[Larry Blidner]

Sure.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes. And it's that fire hose effect again. And why? Because people look at it and they're like, oh, must be true. I mean, he's sure. He's an elected official. He's the governor of Illinois. He wouldn't be lying just flat to my face, Woody.

[Larry Blidner]

Hell yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Seems like that happens a lot.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes. Yes, it does.

[Darren O'Neill]

And just to prove that the migration crisis doesn't just happen in the United States. This is a very interesting story. This Queta.

[Larry Blidner]

It's amazing, man.

[Darren O'Neill]

Invasion of Taiwan. I'm great with geography names.

[Larry Blidner]

It's amazing.

[Darren O'Neill]

But here is the breakdown on what is going on from the BBC.

[Unknown Contributor]

Where is Ceuta? And why have so many people suddenly tried to swim there? These images are of thousands of migrants suddenly rushing towards Morocco's border with Ceuta, a tiny sliver of land that belongs to Spain. They swamp across in such huge numbers that the border effectively collapsed. There was chaos. The swim isn't long, but some people clearly struggled and several dozen have drowned. Those who did make it to shore, though, were euphoric. So why Ceuta? Well, it's a spot where Europe and Africa meet directly. A stepping stone, something on the way to a better life. It's just. Just a few square miles in size and with around 80,000 inhabitants. So 50,000 more arriving in just one day was quite something. Spain has now sent troops and police to help keep the peace and to reinforce the border. But it's still not clear why so many migrants suddenly rushed to Ceuta.

[Darren O'Neill]

Okay, here's the very interesting thing she's telling you. Literally one breath before. Nobody understands why. But listen to what follows.

[Unknown Contributor]

A Spanish court did rule recently that anyone who swims across the border can't be automatically returned. So perhaps word spread.

[Darren O'Neill]

This is the understatement of the century.

[Larry Blidner]

Sure. Well, it's just like Joey and Kamala. We can't control the border. We're taking act of Congress. We can't stop them so come on up, guys, right? Saying come in cards for you and phones and everything.

[Darren O'Neill]

Nothing will happen. Exactly. What they had here was the court rule. If you come in via the water, you can't be immediately returned. That seems like it might have been a lie, but, oh, maybe people heard this. Well, of course they did because you didn't have this before that and now you do. Cause and effect.

[Unknown Contributor]

But there are also questions about what Morocco did or didn't do to stop people crossing.

[Darren O'Neill]

Okay, it's Morocco's fault, but their fault. Why did none of these liberal outlets went, oh, it's, it's Mexico's fault for allowing all of these migrants to walk through? You know, it's amazing.

[Larry Blidner]

Morocco should learn from East Berlin. Put that wall up. Keep it inside.

[Darren O'Neill]

Everybody needs a wall, Larry.

[Larry Blidner]

Everybody needs a wall right now.

[Unknown Contributor]

It's not happy with Spain because of Spain's relations with Algeria. Not a friend of Morocco. Spain's government is playing that down because it needs help from Morocco now to be able to send people back there. Many have already gone, but many thousands more are still in Ceuta and unsure of what happens next.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, well, we're already seeing what's happening next. Here is the the FOX News report.

[Unknown Contributor]

Chaos at the border of Spain's North African enclave in Morocco. This is a city called Ceuta. You're watching. It has thousands.

[Darren O'Neill]

And the reason I can't get the name right is because everybody covering this has said this differently.

[Larry Blidner]

I think he's correct and the Brit was wrong. That's sua gut feeling. Suta. Yes.

[Unknown Contributor]

Of migrants break through the fence and completely overwhelm the border police. Their video showing huge groups of people, mostly young military age guys.

[Darren O'Neill]

Sounds very familiar, doesn't it?

[Larry Blidner]

Doesn't it though? Yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

The young military age guys coming into a country. No, nothing to see here.

[Unknown Contributor]

Their video showing huge groups of people, mostly young military age guys, cramming into inflatable tubes or arriving on shore in other ways. Some of them wading in the water as they break through the gates to get to the other side. Sandra, this is reminiscent of kind of what we saw during the open border during the Biden administration through 2021, 2024. Kind of similar to what we saw in Del rio back in 2021.

[Darren O'Neill]

And of course, this is Fox News who is very much on the Trump train overall. So they will bring the comparison to the, the invasion of the United States under Biden.

[Unknown Contributor]

The socialists agenda. Their platform literally says they want to abolish borders, abolish immigration enforcement, have complete freedom of movement. This is what it looks like in another country. Country if they get what they want, notice there is no resistance from the government whatsoever. These people are coming in without any obstruction. And if people don't know Spain has a very left wing government. Earlier this year they did a big amnesty program for over.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, Spain isn't really just very left wing. They are pretty much straight out socialist, aren't they?

[Larry Blidner]

Totally. Yes, that's correct. You know, I think of that Brit idiot they arrived. So what was the word? She's ecstatic or something, how happy they were to be there.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes.

[Larry Blidner]

And then she says it's normally a community of, of 80,000 people and suddenly there's 50,000 strangers. Now if you look at a map, it's the tip of kind of a, not a peninsula, but it's jutting into a vast chunk of water called the Mediterranean. And there's nowhere to go from there. Okay, so where are all these guys going to make pee pee? Where are they going to eat? Where are they going to sleep? It doesn't matter because they're happy. And the people that are living there already, well screw them because they need to welcome everybody.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well that's not what's happening, believe it or not. But all these people going think once it's very much the same story of the Venezuelans that came into the United States, wound up here in Chicago sleeping on the floor.

[Larry Blidner]

Send me back right?

[Darren O'Neill]

When interviewed we're like this is horrible. We thought there was opportunity here. We can't work without getting permits and we can't get the permits. We can't get a place to live because we don't have any money. And when asked if they would do it all over again, they're like no, it was better before they left home. But it was because of the story that was sold to them.

[Larry Blidner]

They should have gone to Martha's Vineyard.

[Darren O'Neill]

Now they could have stayed at Barack and Michelle, no problem.

[Unknown Contributor]

Well, don't know. Spain has a very left wing government. Earlier this year they did a big amnesty program for over a million illegal immigrants living in the country. They had 1.3 million illegal immigrants apply for that amnesty program between April and June. So that's what we call a pull factor. Sandra. They're looking for something like that. They know if they can just get their foot in the country, maybe someday that left wing government will do another amnesty program. And you were just reading some of the wires. The locals wanted an emergency declaration.

It sounds like ministry saying no and

they will not deploy military to the border. Apparently they don't think this is an. I mean, look at this. This is a total free for all.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah. And I don't know exactly the timing between this news report and then what happened shortly after, because the concept that they weren't being rounded up and sent back doesn't seem to be the truth either. This is a global news report.

[Unknown Contributor]

It started with hundreds, then many, many more. The Spanish government estimates roughly 60,000 people arrived from Morocco in little more than a day. Many swam.

[Darren O'Neill]

And again, we know that millions came into the United States. But as you just pointed out, this is about 60,000 people coming into a country of 80,000, almost doubling within a day.

[Unknown Contributor]

This man says he spent two hours in the ocean. Another brought his five daughters just before an attempt. This woman says she doesn't make enough as a waitress to support her parents and daughter. They're traveling from Morocco into a Spanish office conclave in Africa called Sueta. Many thousands of people have tried in the past, risking their lives to seek a better Life. More than 30 people died in their attempt this time. The rumor that seems to have really blown up is that all of the

[Larry Blidner]

rules

[Unknown Contributor]

around pushbacks were suspended. Migration researcher Craig Damien Smith points to misinformation around a recent Spanish court case as a potential reason why so many are trying now. Spain Supreme Court ruled people arriving by sea cannot be summarily returned.

[Darren O'Neill]

So which part of that's misinformation? I'm not really sure. It seems like, like good information. If the court ruled that, why would you say then it was misinformation? I want to hear that again, too.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah. All of the rules

[Unknown Contributor]

around pushbacks were were suspended. Migration researcher Craig Damien Smith points to misinformation around a recent Spanish. Spanish court case as a potential reason why so many are trying now. Spain's Supreme Court ruled people arriving by sea cannot be summarily returned, though that appears to be happening. As of Friday morning local time, as many as 25,000 people returned. This man says he's leaving and that he hasn't eaten or slept in a day. Others likely dissuaded by the Spanish. Spanish military. Spain's prime minister called so many people illegally arriving an attack, a sentiment the British Prime Minister echoed.

[Larry Blidner]

It is a cause for concern, and we are making contact with the Spanish government, the Spanish authorities, to provide support.

[Unknown Contributor]

Smith points out legal entry to the EU enables free passage within it. He also says many European countries are aging and rely on migrant labor, that more legal pathways could make life easier for many people.

[Darren O'Neill]

It's the same story as here. Oh, no, we need.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, we need that.

[Darren O'Neill]

We need the influx. Well, then come in legally.

[Larry Blidner]

Right.

[Darren O'Neill]

And don't even want to talk about the danger. As we talked about, Adam and John talked about the danger from coming into the United States and how many people died trying to make that journey. Because it's a very corrupt way to get into the country and you're paying, you know, mules to get you in. I mean, people, not actual mules. And it's a very dangerous thing. And they're not. Most of these news reports here. We haven't heard anything about the death toll here, but France 24 has it.

[Unknown Contributor]

Both cities, Melilla and Ceuta, are really surrounded by very high fences, and it's extraordinarily difficult, actually, normally to. To reach. And of course, we've seen over the past few days, while obviously tens of thousands of people arrived, dozens of people, as you say. The latest estimate is 57 people died in the attempt. So these are. It's very difficult and very dangerous. Once people arrive in Ceuto and Melilla, while they are part of Spain, and as such they are part of the Schengen free movement area, there are special rules applied to the autonomous cities, and it's actually quite difficult to travel onward. So a lot of the scaremongering that we've heard and the reactions from countries like Italy sort of thundering about suspending Schengen or suspending Spain from Schengen are really red herrings that. That don't match up with the reality of the situation.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, I mean, what I also don't understand all these, you know, leftist countries who are now afraid that more people are coming in. I thought you don't want the borders now. These people are coming in illegally. How horrible. But CBS News is the only one that I found that had boots on the ground, that had a reporter there trying to speak to these migrants coming in. And I thought this was very interesting, again, was echoing the interviews with the Venezuelans that I saw here in Chicago, kind of given the same thing. We were promised a better life. And the reality may be a little different.

[Unknown Contributor]

All these people have been told that they're not going to be able to get asylum here. So they're being turned around and sent back right there. No, they're not letting people stay. That's what the police have told us. They're making everybody leave. But some people here in Kozrojal go to Spain, you can see. But most of them are walking this way because the police and the military have forced them to leave.

[Darren O'Neill]

I know it's very hard to hear because the audio was bad. But the migrants, like. But no, no. A bunch of these people that were going to Spain and this guy's like, no, that's not going to happen. You know, sorry, but your journey is for.

[Larry Blidner]

Not the journey.

[Unknown Contributor]

The military says that they're not letting people stay, that you have to go back. What about if many people stay here?

No problem.

So your hope is that you'll be able to stay here?

Yeah.

So you read a news article that said that if you came here, you could claim asylum and live in Spain. And you read that and then you decided to swim over. It said, Spain has opened the door. This was on social media,

[Darren O'Neill]

right? Never believe social media, kids.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah,

[Unknown Contributor]

it said Spain has opened the door. This was on social.

[Darren O'Neill]

I mean, again, this is the exact playbook of what happened with everybody coming into the United States. Oh, the United States said that the door is open, come on in.

[Larry Blidner]

Well, they did say that.

[Unknown Contributor]

That.

[Larry Blidner]

And there were, you know, cell phones and phone cards and credit cards and,

[Darren O'Neill]

you know, probably new Air Jordan.

[Larry Blidner]

Where would you like to go? Yeah, gopping that we'll fly where you go. I mean, yeah, it was for real under Joey. But you know what's fascinating? It's, you know, I saw some of those videos and it looked. There was a science fiction movie a few years ago with Brad Pitt about some kind of a plague. I can't remember what it was called, but it was actually very good. World War iii, that's what it was. And there were these mob scenes of these zombies just swarming various areas. And this, the videos of that invasion from Morocco to Spain. That part of Spain was very reminiscent. Thousands and thousands of guys, as they say, military age dudes. Somebody in the report said somebody brought five children. Well, I didn't see any kids, I didn't see any women. It was all guys, maybe 17 to 30, you know, and it. And they constantly. This, the left is. This is their stock and trade, man. They distort the language. And it's kind of been accepted now around the world that invaders are now referred to as migrants. And it so pisses me off because they're not, you know.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes.

[Larry Blidner]

You know, for 100 whatever years, the migrants. And certainly I've witnessed it in California, they come across, they work in the farms, the ranches, whatever, and they. A while and they, they'd send money back to Mexico and then it was done.

[Unknown Contributor]

They.

[Larry Blidner]

They'd go home, you know, not the same as swarms of thousands of guys just coming. Those are Invaders. Those are not migrants. They're invaders.

[Darren O'Neill]

And I believe they're referring to both men and women. But there might be a little bit of a. Of a hint here why there aren't many women crossing media.

[Unknown Contributor]

On what? On Twitter or Instagram or Facebook.

Instagram.

[Darren O'Neill]

Everyone wants to be.

[Unknown Contributor]

Why don't you want to go home to Morocco? There's no money in Morocco.

[Darren O'Neill]

If you have family like that, you

[Unknown Contributor]

can't be happy all the life. Do you have a family? Yeah, my mother. But should to be do something too, regardless, good life. So you really want to leave Morocco? You don't care where you go anyway. You just want to be able to leave Morocco. And why is that? Why do you want to leave Morocco so badly?

[Darren O'Neill]

Maybe there was a different clip that I missed. Clip. But there was talking about there being witches on the journey and how they just tied them up and threw them into the sea.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, that's not nice.

[Darren O'Neill]

No. Not the way that you want to go.

[Larry Blidner]

Well, that wasn't how you determined a witch. Right. Back in those days, there was a drown. You know, if you drowned, you were a witch.

[Darren O'Neill]

Right. If. So that's the. The only way to know is to throw them into the water.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

And this was just. They. I thought this was kind of interesting. Not that I, you know, give any credence to this guy. His name's Mark Adderley. He is a British producer. And of course, the evil and the reasoning behind all of this are going to be clear.

[Unknown Contributor]

Obviously, some kind of even reported by the Telegraph Moroccan governmental influence on this. And also, we can't pretend to ignore that Morocco clearly only in recent days has been in conversations with Trump, telling him they're naming a highway after Trump, they've signed the Abraham Accords and they have a military relationship with Israel. So, you know, we have no way of being able to prove anything. But the feeling is one of. It's curious that Spain has inadvertently become the epicenter of a migrant crisis very shortly after the Spanish World Cup. And everything that America has said about not liking the Spanish.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, it's all Trump, it's all Israel. That's the reason. It's all, wow.

[Larry Blidner]

So this was all CIA op, this is how this happened.

[Darren O'Neill]

Maybe it's again, there is so much blather out there that it's nearly impossible to know who's right, who's wrong, which just of course, gets everybody else anxious. It gets everybody all spun up and that's not doing anything good for their mental health. Health as well.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Now you have two More clips here, and then we can thank a lot of people for their courage.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, why not? What have I got here? I've got, you know, this kind of fun one. Stephen Miller dropping truth bombs. You know, I'm. I'm such a stickler for vocabulary and words. You can hear what this guy has to say.

[Unknown Contributor]

The people you mentioned, the names you mentioned, AOC, Bernie, the Squad, Omar. These are people who even 10 or 15 years ago, would have been relegated to the outer extreme fringes of the Democrat Party. They're now the center of the party. They're the heart of the party. They're the soul of the party. So the Democrats have become a party of freaks, weirdos, losers and crazies. But you can't laugh it off because it's deadly serious. When you give these people power, everything you know and love in this world falls apart. You have chaos, corruption, decay, violence, poverty.

[Darren O'Neill]

That's a poster right there for.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, he's. He's dead. Right? And. And he. He.

[Unknown Contributor]

He.

[Larry Blidner]

He missed a step when he said he. Give these people power, they get power. Because before they get power, people insist that you give them respect. Right? And he's right. Fifteen, 20 years ago, a lot of these people would have said, hey, man, those are. Those are psychos. Those are. They're. They're nincompoops. They're weird. Get them out of here. You know, the burn attorneys? Really? Really. The vagrants. So many of them are. But how do they get that way? Well, I'll tell you how. From preschool teachers telling the little children that everyone deserves respect. No, they don't.

[Darren O'Neill]

No, they do not.

[Larry Blidner]

They conflate respect with civility, right? Respect borders on admiration, and nobody deserves respect. Of course, they can only earn it, but not the way children are taught. And so that's why these. These creeps, these insane people suddenly get to where they go because people are afraid to call them what they are. So I, you know, I gotta. I gotta applaud Stephen Miller. The left hates him, but I admire what he just said because he's correct.

[Darren O'Neill]

Dug it up in the troll room. Says Stephen Miller's a baller.

[Larry Blidner]

A what?

[Darren O'Neill]

A ballerina.

[Larry Blidner]

What's that?

[Darren O'Neill]

A baller. Oh, wow, okay. It's, you know, a badass.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

All right. I didn't know that was going to be a terminology that was off of the. The radar. It's a baller, man.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, it didn't. Yeah. I thought it was like a basketball

[Darren O'Neill]

player or something kind of. Right. You're bringing a Gavin Newsome clip?

[Larry Blidner]

Yes. This is, you know, even though you're not a dad, I think that this may stimulate some, some rage within you. Darren.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, because I do have a thing against bad parenting anyway.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, well this isn't the parents fault, but you realize how bad things have become in the state of California. This is, I'll just tell you the setup. It's a woman filming herself. She's on a speakerphone talking to some, somebody at the my chart outfit or some medical institution in California. And man, what she has to say is kind of sickening.

[Unknown Contributor]

I have a question for you. I got a notification in my chart from my daughter Gianna saying that once her birthday hits on August 4th, that I'm not going to have access through my chart for her appointments and her like test results and stuff. Correct. What you're going to have to do is when a child turns 12, you're going to have to bring her in and she's going to have to create her own account. Her own account? How

you made yours.

[Darren O'Neill]

And what is this an account for?

[Unknown Contributor]

On like my device. So she has her own.

[Larry Blidner]

My chart, the medical website that seems everywhere.

[Darren O'Neill]

Oh, right, that's. You know, I was thinking, because I've got those with every doctor that I've got and so wait, this doctor's office is telling this woman that a 12 year old is going to have to set up her own account?

[Larry Blidner]

Yes, because of California. And what is the reason for that? Well, because Scott Wiener, that freak up in San Francisco, among his other legislation he's passed now in California, basically if a 12 year old says excuse me, I want to get my johnson removed, they can have it done by themselves, by their fiat and mommy and daddy have no say whatsoever.

[Darren O'Neill]

Wow.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah. Wow.

[Unknown Contributor]

How many majors

on like my device? So she has her own login? No, her device, she's, she's 12, she doesn't have a device. Oh, then she won't be able to. Like how is she? So you guys expect 12 year olds to make their own appointments and monitor their test results? It's not, it's, this is the state, state nationwide thing. Crazy. I can't even get my kids, I

can't even get my own kids unless

they give me access. But I have to, my kids have to create their own accounts. Okay, so if she creates her own account on, on whatever device she has her own login, I, I, we could do it through that. Correct. Able to email the doctor. So on the account that you currently had, you'll be able to schedule and cancel appointments. Okay. Still be able to email the doctor because the message says that I can't even do appointments. They can't do appointments.

[Darren O'Neill]

I mean, is this real?

[Larry Blidner]

This is real. This is not fake.

[Darren O'Neill]

I mean, this. I mean, I'm having flashbacks to the AI videos that I was complaining were fake a couple of weeks ago. This is. This is real.

[Larry Blidner]

I believe it is. It's been, you know.

[Unknown Contributor]

Oh, no, I guess not. So she's going to have to call and create her and make her yearly appointments. My God. It's crazy. Okay, that's insane. How do they expect kids to say they get a blood test? How do they want them to review their own blood test results at 12 years old? Okay, well, we'll figure it out. I'm just gonna have to create. We'll create the login together, and I'll manage it under her. Her account.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Unknown Contributor]

And then if they do create, they have their appointment. I'm just. I'm still allowed to go in with her, right? Or I'm not even allowed to be in the room with her unless she said. And she said yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

Absolutely.

[Unknown Contributor]

If she says no, she has every right.

[Larry Blidner]

Okay, there you go. Wow. You're calling the shots. They'll decide what mommy and daddy have to say or see.

[Darren O'Neill]

Okay, that does not. If that's real, that is beyond the pale, as Joe Biden would say.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, well, that was a big, big issue about them doing it. I mean, people in California were just, you know, having conniptions over and justifiably so, because it's all rooted in the trans movement. That's where. That's. That's the. The genesis.

[Darren O'Neill]

Right. Because if they want to get the surgery done, then the parents can't be a. I, you know, told about it, because that would be bad somehow.

[Larry Blidner]

Right?

[Darren O'Neill]

Wow.

[Larry Blidner]

Wow.

[Darren O'Neill]

If that's real, I mean, I would have given you a clip of the day, but I already did that clip of the show because that is absolutely insane. If you're in California, if you got kids, get out. Yeah. God help you, but it's time to do this.

[Unknown Contributor]

I'm going to show my support by donating to no Agenda.

[Darren O'Neill]

Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fast. Yeah, I know. The jingle doesn't always go there. People are like, oh, you're not doing it right. Like, it's. It's like spitting plates, but no great

[Larry Blidner]

plate spinners, you know? You are the best.

[Darren O'Neill]

I get. Yeah, I get better as. No, Adam Curry's the best. I'm getting. All right. As Time goes by, I'm gonna get a little bit better each and every time up. By the time Adam's like, give me all this stuff back, you guys are nuts. Then I'll be perfect. I'll be good. I'll know exactly what I'm doing. But no Agenda is a value for value show. What does that mean? I mean, the whole ecosystem, it's based on three words. Time, talent, treasure. It's pretty simple. There's no ads, there's no corporate money. Nothing's locked behind a paywall. It's not like some subscription service that you're like, how do I stop this? No, it's very easy. The show goes out. You can grab it with whatever app you want. We highly Recommend A podcasting 2.0 app because then you get the bat signal when the show goes live. And all the other shows that you like that are on the podcasting 2.20 ecosystem, go live. Just go over to podcastapps.com if you don't have one, and then if you get anything out of the show. Did you laugh? Did you cry? Did you like Larry's Fauci impersonation? Man, everybody dug that. Was it better than Cats? Just, you get to send some value back to us to keep the show going on. That's it. It doesn't have to be money. That is where the time, talent, and treasure comes into it. You can do artwork, you can tell a friend, you can hit him in the mouth. As we say, spread the word in any way you can. And if you want to go the monetary donation route that keeps the lights on, do what feels right for you. Five bucks could be a big deal. And some people. A hundred bucks, two hundred, a thousand. Nobody dictates the number but you. This is for pure freedom and the value for value model. You can just go over tonoagenA donations.com and see what number hits you. Maybe it's 888 because there was 888 people in that troll room the last time, but Larry and I are getting compensated for these shows. We left that number up to the Podfather and the Dvorak clan. It's an example of value for value. Whatever they think we are worth, then that's what we're going to get. So we highly recommend, if you like what we're doing here, that you go over and send in a donation and just let them know, Darren and Larry, they're okay. Yeah, I mean, it's okay as we can possibly be. But let me look here at the troll room.

[Larry Blidner]

What's the head count?

[Darren O'Neill]

I know these trails. They always run. I don't know why. We have a peak trollage of 956 with 776. That sounds kind of patriotic. It does right now. And we are glad you are joining us in the no Agenda Troll room, which is available over at no Agenda Stream. And then if you're a true nerd, you will figure out how to get onto the IRC server direct so you don't have to deal with any of the crazy web interface stuff and just the way it works. And all the trolls there on a podcasting 2.0 app because they know when we're live. The other thing you can do, of course, is artwork for the show. As I said the other day, people like, oh, wait, can you. Can you still do art? Well, I could, but that wouldn't be in the.

[Larry Blidner]

No. And then I'd have to pick your stuff. Wouldn't that be awful?

[Darren O'Neill]

No, you would be like, no, I don't like any of this stuff.

[Larry Blidner]

This is all bad. Give me a Darren thing.

[Darren O'Neill]

But we had some nice art coming in on the last show and a couple of the artists. Was it Mike Riley, one of them? Somebody told me, like, no, no, be. Be vicious. Be vicious to the artist. Don't. Don't let him off the hook. But there were a few nice pieces by Dame Kenny Ben, and there were a few we could have gone with.

[Larry Blidner]

Yep.

[Darren O'Neill]

And I really kind of liked the vibe of the Muppet Fauci with the duct tape. But Larry hates puppets.

[Larry Blidner]

I do. It's true.

[Darren O'Neill]

So you have to learn exactly what the. With the host like. And Larry does not like puppets. But see, that was a Fauci Muppet that looked. I mean, that looks more Fauci than the actual Fauci. I mean, it's amazing. That was a beautiful piece.

[Larry Blidner]

It was good.

[Darren O'Neill]

The one we chose was a cartoonish Foushee, which everything kind of blended perfectly with the little bubble of I take the fifth, which that was. The thing you said was the tape over the mouth didn't really coincide enough with the 111 times.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

Of Foushee taking the fifth. And then we had like, the little lawyer names. I mean, I hope, though, o' Neill and Blightner aren't the real lawyers for Fauci, because we. Although we get. We get paid.

[Larry Blidner]

Well, that's true.

[Darren O'Neill]

But we thought that one really hit on all of the marks. I don't know what year. What was next for you? I mean, we both decided that Blue Acorns Fauci writing in the diary was so disturbing, we are going to have nightmares for the next. Well, as long as we can imagine.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes, it's a tad disturbing. Yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

You think? I mean, really no agenda. Art generator dot com. Go look. The Fauci diary by Blue Acorn. Very weird. We had, of course Scaramanga coming in with the cheesecake, but it was a little too trashy of cheesecake. And with the flock camera. Yeah, I mean, and the butts. I mean, the only way butt art is going to get picked is if it's csb who said he was going to put some in for. Oh, really today? I mean, we shamed him on the last show. Like, where's the CSB art? I was gathered. I was taking a nap. Like, well, why?

[Larry Blidner]

You snooze, you lose during the show.

[Darren O'Neill]

And the Parker Paulie one, which was the mashup of our original Planet Rage. Art with no Agenda was very nice as well. That would have probably been second on my list after the one that we chose. But there's some interesting stuff coming in today. I do see something from comic strip blogger, so he didn't lie.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, cool.

[Darren O'Neill]

There is still plenty of time though to compete to see what is going to win today. It could be anything. That is the beauty of it. And we thank Dame Kenny Ben. I know she's been out of the art game for a little while, so it was nice to see some pieces by her that came in. It is all very much appreciated. It's part of the time talent, treasure. Thank you, Dame Kenny Ben. And now we do need monetary support to keep the show going. And this is where we normally do our executive producers and associate executive producers. Today, again, we're going all the way down to the 50 mark.

[Larry Blidner]

Why?

[Darren O'Neill]

Because we're new. We need some. We need some reps and we want to encourage you to continue supporting the best damn podcast in the universe. So if you have the spreadsheet open, we can.

[Larry Blidner]

I do, Darren. And I'm gonna ask for your assistance because to avoid the train wreck situation, I'm looking at Fred Hadley's very generous donation and it says, see attached note where Find that note.

[Darren O'Neill]

I've got it. Let me read that. When he came in with a 1776 in cash. This is. You're very brave.

[Larry Blidner]

That's cool. Cash. Wow, that's impressive.

[Darren O'Neill]

And the note was on a piece of paper, so I transcribed it because it was a little hard to read from the picture. But I've got it here. He says, dear no agenda, United States is a Federal Corporation where July 4th is Independence Day. United States of America is the constitutional republic whose August 2nd is Independence Day. Artificial intelligence scrapes and steals spies and surveils and lies and kills. AI serves the devil. Sincerely, Fred Hadley. I was gonna say that is Fred.

[Larry Blidner]

Thank you. And I am with you, brother. Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

You and Larry should start an anti AI coalition.

[Larry Blidner]

I'm down. Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

It's the way to do it. I mean, it's very much appreciated. We don't have anything as far as he's an instantite. Obviously. I don't see any night name. If you have a night name, Fred.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

Please let us know. And then you want to continue with

[Larry Blidner]

the Dame Dumb or Dame Dumb. She's from Los Angeles. Sorry to hear that. She donated 300 and she said, Adam, you were such a great host in 1888. I'm proud of you. John 2. Best wishes to you all. Damn. Pompeo.

[Darren O'Neill]

Dame.

[Larry Blidner]

Dame. All right.

[Darren O'Neill]

They're dames. They're damn to be French. Oh, I guess the last name. I see you were trying to bring all sorts of, you know, upper crust.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah. So next is Manuka Gold, our friends from Hudson, Florida and ITM for the Manuka Gold family. Thank you Larry and Darren. Great job filling in. We really enjoyed Thursday's show and we're happy to keep supporting. We do have a [e-mail] for the no Agenda listeners looking for 20% off code treasure again, that's code Treasure will work for the entire month of August and beyond. Feel free to reach out with any special requests like gift notes, etc. It's great to email with fellow no agenda listeners. And that was 250. Thank you, Milky Gold.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, I need to get some of that stuff. I've heard it's the greatest honey around for all sorts of different reasons.

[Larry Blidner]

Honey is magical stuff. It's got to be the right honey.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, this is it.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes. Really. Next, Eli the coffee guy. Thank. It's from Bensonville, Illinois. And 208.02. Thank you to Darren and Larry for doing a great job holding the fork down. I know all of us in gitmonation are feeling the shadow of John's passing with heavy hearts. So I figured I'd offer a little ray of light. We have a new gig. It baby. Congratulations. Our son Miles was born July 28th. Everybody is healthy and happy. We haven't slept much in the past week, but that's what coffee is for. Visit gigawatt coffeeroasters.com and use code it. M20 again. That's it. M24 20 off your order. Stay caffeinated. Eli the coffee guy.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, he's the only guy that ever got me to do a meetup and

[Larry Blidner]

he was a good dude.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, he's the first no agenda producer that I met in the wild. We went to go see Eli and I'm like, I gotta try some of this. A gigawatt coffee. Then he got me hooked. He gave me a couple. He tried these and I was like, oh man.

[Larry Blidner]

Good stuff, huh?

[Darren O'Neill]

It's like crack. Once you have it, you want it. You want more.

[Larry Blidner]

A lot more. All right, we've got Red Knight from Bismarck, North Dakota. That's a. That's a town with a great name and a great place. 20188 Deepest condolences to the Dvoraks, Curries and and all who have been touched by jcd. My keeper and I were traveling and we had stopped at the world's largest truck stop in Iowa along Route 180. We had just sat down for some lunch when I saw the announcement newsletter. Like many others, I was in disbelief. This isn't April. Reading it again and my keeper could tell something was wrong. I handed her my phone, who was also very saddened after reading the news. Since we were traveling for a few days, I wouldn't be able to send a proper note or donation. The added delay gave me the time needed to process and reflect. I don't know when exactly I discovered jcd, but I'm pretty sure it was when he was a guest on twit. Early in my marriage 2000's my keeper had work training in the San Francisco area. I gleefully tagged along. It was during this time I frequently watched listened to Twit. They would meet at various venues to record the show. I guess this could have been the original meetups. I was able to be part of the audience on two recordings in two different venues. Leo Laporte, Kevin Rose, others I don't recall, and of course John C. Dvorak. JCD was new to me at the time and didn't know all of his vast history like I do now. At first I wasn't much of a fan of jcd. However, the more he popped up on Twitter and later listened on no Agenda, the more I appreciated his direct, no nonsense delivery. His stories from past experiences always had my attention as well as his many tips. He even used a tip suggestion I sent him called Drop stop that goes between your front car seat and console. Several times after this I tried to feed him with more tips but nothing stuck. One of the tips I sent he said this isn't a tip, this is a product promotion.

[Darren O'Neill]

I remember that original drop stop because I was like oh I need that because if you've ever dropped anything in your car and to it's going between

[Larry Blidner]

the seats I recall that it was a cool product. One last thing I'd like to share about John to his is his mentioning of giving a short sentence review of products like a book for example quote couldn't put it down or quote a real page turner unquote. I just so happen to own a game for the apple IIG's called Crystal Quest. On the front of the box is a sticker with a few more of those one liners. Our very own JCD as a comment quote hottest game in town unquote. I've often thought about sending him this box with donation of course and see if it would sign it for me. Another part of me thought it may fall into the depths of his studio to never be found again.

[Darren O'Neill]

That's probably more likely.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, it's never good timing when a loved one leaves us. However, John's sequence of events seems appropriate. 1. Give everyone a scare with a major surgery. 2. Needed passwords from digital things are realized. 3. John is recovering. We need a promotion. Red Knight Order of the heart 4. Time passes and grousing per usual. 5. Evening of the final event John calls to his soulmate, spend a few more minutes together, then silently exits. My continual prayers to the Dvoraks and Currys that our Heavenly Father will carry you through this valley and give you the strength for the next chapter. John truly was a national treasure. Red Knight Sir Brendan FEMA Region 8

[Darren O'Neill]

well, thank you very much. That's again, as we heard from the clip directly at the start of the show, the gaping hole that is left by John C. Dvorak. And it's funny. I've heard from more than a few people when they posted about John that starts at first I wasn't a fan because you didn't really understand John. It's kind of like no agenda people that start listening to this show. There are so many little backstory, so many jokes, so many, you know, in the morning people like what does that mean? It takes a little time to kind of catch up. But once you did with John, people were in for the I've never heard anybody that was like oh but nope, that didn't turn around. I mean the minute I saw him take Leo's phone and change it to Korean, I was in that's great stunt. Everybody should do that.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes. My wife did that to me once before was the phone when it was Garmin GPS on the dashboard of the car and she changed the language to France to French. And I was heading to it, headed to a very important appointment and man, I was pissed. This is now. Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

You didn't know if you were turning left or right.

[Larry Blidner]

Exactly. Had no idea. Nice. You want to do this one, Darren or.

[Unknown Contributor]

Sure.

[Darren O'Neill]

Sir Nobody of New Jersey. Now There's a name. $201 says. Dear O' Neill and Bleidner, I wanted to thank you two for hosting Thursday show. It was great. So I subscribed to Planet Rage. In my previous note, I think I forgot to convey my condolences and sympathies to JCD's family as well as Adam's family. Congrats on the birth and of course the Horowitzes. But on to good news. Looking over my donation amounts from the last donation, I realized that I'm a baronet. Those sustaining donations do add up. I'm a fan of the 1111 plan. It's not much, but every little bit helps. And I'm just going to say I don't want to argue with the night, but it's. It is not nothing. It is not not much. It is very much. What keeps shows like this going are the monthly donations. So thank you for that title to be baronet Nobody of New Jersey. Also for the New Jersey crew and anybody else, I'm happy to announce an early meetup for Central Jersey on August 8th at the 3br. Is that distillery in Keyport, New Jersey. It looks like 3br.

[Larry Blidner]

Yeah, three bedroom titled.

[Darren O'Neill]

Hey, that's a heck of a bar. We drink and we know things. Absent friends edition. I did this so as to not take Thursday. Not to take thunder away from the Dame when of the Lakes fantastic pig roast meetup on September 6th which is highly recommended to the New Jersey crowd. Well, that sounds like fun too does Looking forward to Baron Hood soon and seeing everyone at the meetups. Sir Nobody of New Jersey. And he came in with 2:01 today, making him a baronet. Thank you.

[Larry Blidner]

Very cool. Next UP is Anonymous 200.33. Thank you, Anonymous.

[Darren O'Neill]

And that should be a. A double up. But where's the double up? I'll just do this single.

[Unknown Contributor]

You've got karma.

[Darren O'Neill]

Double up, double up.

[Larry Blidner]

There you go though.

[Darren O'Neill]

I'll get better at that.

[Larry Blidner]

That was great. There's our friend Linda Lupatkin of Castle Rock, Colorado. $200 jobs. Karma. Hey, Darren. And Larry, you're doing a great job. Thank you, Linda. Now this for a competitive edge with a resume that gets Results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Image Makers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Louis, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

[Darren O'Neill]

Thank you Linda. And if I can't find these clips fast enough, I may need resume help.

[Unknown Contributor]

You've got

[Darren O'Neill]

jobs, jobs, jobs.

[Unknown Contributor]

Karma.

[Larry Blidner]

Mary New donated 188.88. No address, no note. Thank you, Mary.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, so then again that would be

[Unknown Contributor]

you've got

[Darren O'Neill]

karma retroactively to the other one as well.

[Larry Blidner]

There we go. Brad R. King of Schoolcraft, MI 123.45 Adam, Tina, Mimi Buzzkill Jr. And the whole Dvorak clan. I am sorry for your loss. I had a financial change so stopped my my normal donations but I am not overboard. Love love love. You all know agenda change my life. God bless you all and JCD. Thank you Brad. Rachel Fisher, Vancouver, WA 105.35 for the buzzkill. Much love from one Oregon local 33er to no agenda. Adam, Meaty, Mimi, the family at all. Thank you Rachel. Ian Sloan. No, no address but 105.35. Thank you Larry and Darren for stepping up. Much appreciated. Well, thank you Ian.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes, we appreciate that when the people aren't trying to run us out of town. Which pitchforks yet?

[Larry Blidner]

Yes, pitchfork. Pitchfork and torch party. It's got to be in there somewhere someday.

[Darren O'Neill]

And then I see we do have a couple a couple of hundreds from Baron Lattaquin of Houston, Texas and Arnold Wilbur Jr. Of Independence, Kentucky. Thank you to both of you.

[Larry Blidner]

Yes, here's one from Danny Haynes. 93.64 Dear Adam and Mimi, I started listening to no Agenda at episode 94 back in May of 2009 after hearing John C. Dvorak on this Week in Tech. I am so sad to hear of his passing. The humor analysis and worldview have been life changing and the friendship between Adam and John has been inspirational. This donation will bring me to knighthood. I would hope to be known as Sir Danny Knight of Cumberland County. This area is the entire Sydney Basin. Counting attached. He's got some biblical biblical verses here. Matthew 5:4. Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted. Psalm 34. 4. Delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your heart. Yours in Christ. Danny Hayes in Grace Stains, Australia. Thank you Danny. Next is ox Othericks, Buffalo, New York. $90, no note. Thank you. Ox oh, you still with me, Darren?

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, I'm just. I lost the spreadsheet for a minute there, but. I see.

[Larry Blidner]

Just check.

[Darren O'Neill]

Next. Yes, Sir Nubbin. Sir Nubbin, our buddy coming in with 8888. He says my condolences to the Dvorak family and Adam. JCD was the same age as my parents, so JCD passing hit really hard. Also, Darren and Larry, you have really stepped up for the sub in. Thank you for your courage. So it's the sub in from Sir Nubbin who I believe he's the only. And they're actually there. I think there's two that are knights of the no agenda roundtable and also scumbags in the planet Rage world. So it's a very small group but thank you, Sir Nubbin.

[Larry Blidner]

Thank you. We have, let's see, Patrick Cauley in Carmel, Indiana. 8888 Long time boner. Please de douche me RIP.

[Unknown Contributor]

You've been de douched

[Larry Blidner]

from Duke Slambob rolling night 88.88. Thank you for your courage, gents. ITM boots, boobs, JCD forever. Respect Duke Slam Bob Rolling Knight of the Guadalupe Trail and Heartbreak Hill. Baron, sir phenom of Appleton, Wisconsin 88.88 credit as Baron Serfinon. Hi Larry and Darren. So what is the thing I will miss most about jcd? Now that is a great question. Where there's so much the community that he and Adam created around the show is nothing short of amazing. I have met some awesome people through the show like Dame Jennifer, the first producer I ever met who happened to be working at the same co working space in Chiraq as I was and had an NA mug on her desk. One of those people is Sir Dank Steady who suffered a great loss when the tornado tore through Menu Menasha, Wisconsin last week. Fortunately, his family, including their beloved cat, are all safe and please send heaps of karma to all of them.

[Darren O'Neill]

Next I will say karma. Baron Serfina in Appleton. That was the town really, that looked like it took it the hardest. We're glad you're all right. The. The drone footage of Appleton after those storms which took out our power here with the the drunken NATO and the 100 mile an hour winds. Man, Appleton got hit hard. So hopefully you and everybody around there recovers from that one. That was. This weather is no joke.

[Larry Blidner]

No. Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada. Wasn't that Art Bellstown? I think so. Close by. No. Power up. That's where he was. Damrita said donated 88.88 and said ITM Darren O. And Larry B. Much appreciation for your time and talent. Thank you for your. Is it courage or content? It could be either, right? Dame Rita, thank you.

[Darren O'Neill]

For us it's maybe both.

[Larry Blidner]

Dame Shelley and Tom blowers of Jeffersonville, Indiana, 8888. Thank you, John Godspeed. Dame Shelley and Tom Blowers, Brownsville, Texas. Dame Age AJ in Tallahassee, Alabama. 88.88 note, no note. Of Tim Griffin, Burlington, Wisconsin, 8888. Also no note. Thank you both. Max fluitt in Sequim, Washington. $80.08. This donation is from Max Fluitt. Happy birthday. Shout out to Sir Christopher of the Benevolent Order of the Choo Choos. His birthday is August 5th. Do we do birthdays?

[Darren O'Neill]

Yes, we do. It's on the birthday list.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, beautiful. Okay. Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina. $80 and 8 cents. 1891. God bless America. And Boobs Laos Dayo. Okay. Les Tarkowski of Kingman, Arizona. That's he was in the last time. Another Kingman resident. Cool town. $60 and 6 cents, no note. Thank you, Les. Brian Fairley. No place. $55 and 10 cents. No note. Thank you, Brian. John Bassano, Madison, Alabama. 52.72. Thank you, John Scott Evers, no place, no note. 5272. Daniel LeBoy of Bath, Michigan. $50. No note. Thank you. Daniel and James Sharametta of Napanok, New York. $50. Thank you, James. Yes.

[Darren O'Neill]

Thank you all for supporting and thank you, Larry, for reading a majority of those. What I need is a. A larger monitor or a bionic eye or a system that can make text in a spreadsheet larger without making everything go off the screen. So I appreciate you taking those. And we do have. We do have a knighting today.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, cool. Let's. That's right, let's. That sounds fun.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah. We need these then.

[Larry Blidner]

There.

[Darren O'Neill]

You got a sword. Alrighty. Danny Haynes, step right up to the podium, please. Thank you for your support of the no Agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or more. I am very proud to pronunciate the Sir Danny Norman night of Cumberland county for you. Yeah, we've got the usual hookers and blow, Rent boys and Chardon Day and even mutton and mead, ginger ale and gerbils, bong hits and bourbon, Irish whiskey and Chicago dogs and everything that you can possibly want. Oh, wait. Oh, there we go. We got. That's the real knighting there. Head on over to noagendarings.com. that's where you'll find all of the information about the very handsome Noah Agenda night signet rings. Send them your ring size, they'll get them out to you. Along with some ceiling wax and a certificate of authenticity. And it's amazing how many people originally thought that was saying ceiling wax, like at the ceiling of your room. But thank you.

[Larry Blidner]

I know I ceiling with a C.

[Darren O'Neill]

Thank you for supporting the best podcast in the universe and becoming a night of no agenda. And then we have a title change as well.

[Larry Blidner]

Oh, cool.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah. Today certain nobody of New Jersey becomes the Baronet Nobody of New Jersey.

[Larry Blidner]

We.

[Darren O'Neill]

We thank you for your support of the best damn podcast in the universe. And yes, there are birthdays. Yeah, there's a few today. Belated Melody wanted to wish his fiance Happy birthday on July 21. Net. Net belated birthday. He was born on July 23. Miles the coffee kid. Oh yeah, he was born just now on July 28th. That's his very first birthday. And Max Fluitt wants to wish Sir Christopher of the Benevolent Order of the Choo Choos a very Happy birthday on August 5th and a very happy welcome to baby Miles. And he's the mini coffee guy. We hope you all had a great birthday from your friends at the Mighty no Agenda show. Yeah, and then there were some meetups. Yeah, they are like a party indeed. That's where you go out, you have some fun. Eli, the coffee guy, he got me out of the house.

[Unknown Contributor]

House.

[Darren O'Neill]

It was fun.

[Larry Blidner]

They're great. I've been to a couple, always enjoy them.

[Darren O'Neill]

There was a Raleigh JCD meetup report from James Jeffers who said they. There was no audio, but they had 14 people show up. They toasted JCD's memory and they say we miss him and remember him with fondness. And there was a nice picture. Some very good looking trolls out there for the meetup, which is what we like to see and celebrating jcd. I mean, what better way to go than to find a bunch of people who have similar ideas as you and aren't gonna go crazy if you disagree with them. Which is also a plus because we're living in a world now where people. Oh, you're wearing a red cap. You're. You're the devil. No, not at a meetup. Everybody's cool. And then we had a North Georgia meetup. And this is headed up by Sir Bob and he's got the meetup report here. He doesn't know if I'll be playing them. Oh, yes, I will. But he also adds condolences to Mimi and everyone Else from Georgia in the

[Unknown Contributor]

morning, Adam and Mimi and the whole Dvorak clan. This is Sir Bob coming at you from the North Georgia Quarterly Meetup, which we have renamed the North Georgia Rest in Peace John C. Dvorak Meetup. We had a great night. We had the best turnout we've had in a long time. Everybody's here talking about how great John was and how much he meant to us. So I want to pass the phone around and have everybody give a little bit about what John meant to them. And I'm going to start with that. And mine is a couple of things I want to say about John. And one of the things he used to say that I always cracked me up when he would go, oh brother. And the reason that meant so much to me is because my mother is the same exact age as John and from a different part of the country. But I guess they, their generation said the whole thing because when I'd be with my mom and we'd be playing cards and doing things and she'd go, brother. And it made me think of John. And then when John would say, oh brother, that would make me think of my mom. So that was a really important thing to me and it made me feel special with John and my mom. And the other thing, the only thing I'm gonna say that I won't take Celebration thunder because everybody's got probably the same thing to say, but I. I'm gonna miss the 3 by 3. I love the 3 by 3. So rest in peace, John C. Dvorak. I'm gonna pass the phone around and we're gonna get everybody else's thoughts about John, Adam, Mimi and all the Dvorak children. May God bless you, keep you, make his face shine on you and be gracious to you, look upon you with favor and give you peace. Next letter that comes from quote sironomous Market return descendants

[Darren O'Neill]

in the morning.

[Unknown Contributor]

This is Sir R. I'd like to give a shout out to the Love is lit for JCD Denver Seattle Parks Meetup.

[Darren O'Neill]

I will not be there in person,

[Unknown Contributor]

but I'll drop some DMT and be there in spirit.

[Larry Blidner]

T here remembering John C. Dvorak who

[Unknown Contributor]

passed before there was any evidence people

[Larry Blidner]

wanted to use the mouse. I miss you, jcd.

[Unknown Contributor]

Jcd. Please say hello to jc. As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil for you are with me.

[Larry Blidner]

Sean here thinking of jcd. While we're connecting and protecting, now is

[Unknown Contributor]

the time to go out and support your local no agenda community in the morning.

[Darren O'Neill]

Y'.

[Larry Blidner]

All.

[Unknown Contributor]

Hey, na Dr. Sir Mike Roche. I'm gonna miss John saying my hay is rude. I followed that guy for literally 33 years, since I got a 386 packard

[Larry Blidner]

bell back in the day. And I had so many questions and

[Unknown Contributor]

he was my source. I love you guys.

[Darren O'Neill]

Long live in a rip jcd.

[Unknown Contributor]

This is Cody with Cherry street brewing. These guys with no agenda are awesome.

[Darren O'Neill]

Hell yeah.

[Unknown Contributor]

Stay safe.

[Darren O'Neill]

You know that's doing the meetup report, right? They got the server involved.

[Larry Blidner]

That's pretty cool.

[Darren O'Neill]

And sir Dr. Mike Crotch always makes me crack up. It's the voice. And then we have a report from the North Idaho sanity brigade meetup head up by sir Scott the Jew who says, apologies for the late submission. I had a hard time editing this one through the tears in the morning Gitmo nation.

[Unknown Contributor]

Sir Scott the Jew here. This time it wasn't just another north Idaho standing brigade meetup. Wasn't just another party. This time it was a parte for JCD's life. A celebration of the man. So many of the same faces and voices together at the Trails end brewery in Coeur d' Alene. Along with some new faces who came to one of our meetups for the first time, conversations of JCD's voice and legacy abounded. A hearty cheers to the man, the myth, the legend, John C. Dvorak. Adam and John, I love you so much. You've changed my life.

[Darren O'Neill]

John, you are more of a father to me than my own dad.

[Unknown Contributor]

I'm gonna miss you. I don't drink much anymore, but I'm having one or three for you tonight.

[Darren O'Neill]

I love you.

[Unknown Contributor]

Thank God for no Agenda for in peace. John, thank you for all the decades of wonderful skeptical media analysis and deconstruction

from Trevor Jen with a G here at the North Idaho meetup. Adam, I know they're not your favorite, but I've been really meaning to write JCD and tell them I love all those whatever girl clips. It keeps it lively. Wait, what's that in your mouth?

In the morning?

[Larry Blidner]

No Agenda family.

[Unknown Contributor]

This is our spook of Spokane. We're all just sharing tales of John and. And really all appreciating what a family the no Agenda community has. John, I hope you are finding something to grouse about up in heaven. We know you are. Adam, Mimi, all the no Agenda family, wishing you the best. Much love and prayers in the morning.

Rest in peace, John in the morning.

Flynn are the findings here. Escaping Spokane for the smell of freedom found in the North Idaho Idaho Sandy brigade meetup Thankful for Scott the Jew, Larry and Darren for holding down the no Agenda homestead and the wonderful servers here at Trails End Brewery in Coeur d'.

[Larry Blidner]

Alene.

[Unknown Contributor]

Still praying for the Dvorak clan. JCD will be missed but never forgotten. Keep your boots down and your tails up and congrats to the newlyweds.

[Darren O'Neill]

Hey, it's Rev, the gold digging cowgirl.

[Unknown Contributor]

God bless the no Agenda nation. Ma JC sitting next to of Jesus guiding us through the. Love you all.

This is Rebs Mule. Miss you John already.

What's that in your mouth?

[Larry Blidner]

This is Sir Donald at the Fire Bottles.

[Unknown Contributor]

Comment on John Devora.

[Larry Blidner]

Our true home is in the next world, not here. John has been called home, may he

[Unknown Contributor]

rest in peace by the mercy of God. This is Marty of the North Idaho Sanity Brigade. We've raised many a glass in toasting

[Darren O'Neill]

JCD and his years of pleasure in hearing him.

[Unknown Contributor]

And life goes on.

My name is Embry and I live in Coeur d', Alene, Idaho. I'm sorry about John, but I hope you guys keep on doing the show how you used to and as fun as you used to.

This is Lane Fleming. Fleming from Otis Orchards, Washington and been listening for about 13 years. I'm gonna miss John a lot. Sure love listening to you guys. Thanks for everything.

Sending lots of thoughts and prayers and love to the whole no Agenda family as we grieve and to the Dvorak and Curry families. We will get through this.

Lord bless transitions for all we have going on in front of us. Welcome your brother, your son John all the way home. Welcome Adam into whatever's next and welcome all of us into the city on

[Darren O'Neill]

behalf of the Idaho Sanity Brigade.

[Unknown Contributor]

We miss you John. In Jesus name, amen.

Hey guys, this is Janine from Trails and Brewery. I had the pleasure of serving no Agenda tonight and they were super fun. My pleasure. We will see you next time. Cheers.

[Darren O'Neill]

Now that is a nice nicely done meetup report.

[Larry Blidner]

Really, it's such nice people. Wow, that's cool.

[Darren O'Neill]

I know. The servers are always like oh wow. They're all good tippers. I'm sure that's it. They're like the insanity is okay. They're all having a lot of fun. There are some meetups coming up including today which is the JCD in memorandum memoriam at 3:33pm north of Toronto time. All Star Week Wings and Ribs in Vaughan, Ontario, Canada that is organized by Bishop. Then on Monday tomorrow we got the mixtape meetup at 4:30 Alaskan time at. Oh, this is the one Lady Vox was putting together. She Knows how to put a party together.

[Larry Blidner]

She's cool.

[Darren O'Neill]

At Mama Rosa's taco stand in Alaska. Go to the noagendameetups.com website for more details on that one. On Tuesday of this week we have the OKC meetup RIP JCD at 7:00pm Central at Fastler Hall, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. The organizer, sir Jimmy James of the South Central Flatlands. And on Wednesday, the love is lit for JCD at 6:30 mountain time, just west of Denver City Museum of Nature and Science in Denver, Colorado, organized by Sir Vito. And then Thursday, the next show day, we have a meetup at the Northern Wake. Totally regularly scheduled meetup at Saints and scholars, Raleigh, North Carolina, organized by J.C. jeffers. And then upcoming. The list is huge. Go to noagendameetups.com everywhere from the UK, Canada, Tennessee, Michigan, Delaware, New Jersey, Texas, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Thailand, Louisiana, Iowa, North Carolina. I mean, if you don't see something close to you, which is going to be very rare right now, but if you don't see anything close to you, it's very easy, you can set up your own meetup, list it there. And protection is connection, as the Podfather always says. And it's true. Try it out.

[Larry Blidner]

It's totally true. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days.

[Darren O'Neill]

You wanna be where you won't be

[Unknown Contributor]

triggered or hell to blame.

[Larry Blidner]

You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

[Darren O'Neill]

It's like a pop. Yeah, it is like a party. And I have a couple of ISO. We have to start getting you to get ISOs as well. But yeah, I put the word out there and again I'm gonna like slam my head here because I didn't write down who sent these in so bad. Me. I apologize. But we did have somebody send in. I asked for some of like the JCD favorites kind of thing.

[Larry Blidner]

Cool.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, so we do have two of those. This was the first one. The only one that I brought is this one. And it. It didn't really. This today wasn't so bad.

[Unknown Contributor]

But Stop stomping the podcaster.

[Darren O'Neill]

I thought that was good from. From the Podfather. I mean that should really. You know what, this should be on a button that I can hit. So anytime somebody sends something and I'm like, oh, I don't know what, then it's just stop stomping the podcaster.

[Larry Blidner]

That's good. Yeah. Make that a prime button. Yeah.

[Darren O'Neill]

But the two from Sophia, one of JCD's favorite was Chef's Kiss.

[Larry Blidner]

Amazing.

[Darren O'Neill]

So there's that. That's short and Sweet. That's within the normal timing of a no agenda ISO. But I really like this one.

[Unknown Contributor]

That was the most fulfilling, hilarious, amazing thing I've ever heard.

[Darren O'Neill]

Which one?

[Larry Blidner]

That's cute.

[Darren O'Neill]

Yeah, really. I mean it may be lying on this episode, but I mean, I think we can go along with that one. And how you feeling there? We made it through another one.

[Larry Blidner]

I'm feeling pretty good. Yeah, I'm almost ready for Thursday.

[Darren O'Neill]

Well, let's. Hey, let's not be a workaholic here or anything. That is gonna do it for another edition of the best damn podcast in the universe. For those of you sticking around and we hope you do on the mighty no agenda stream up next is really just two good old boys, Sir Gene and dude named Ben named Ben. Sir Benro's chosen Sir Gene says he never chooses a show. Now you see. Yeah, that is a not the truth. So you can stay along and listen to that one. There were no end of show mixes, so I think I'll throw in a while. Dvorak's chair gently squeaks and just until next time, coming to you live just outside of Chiraq right here in FEMA region number five in the morning everybody. I am Darren o' Neill and from

[Larry Blidner]

pretentious Connecticut, I'm Larry Blidner. We will be back here this Thursday, so please join us and remember is at no advice Agenda donations dot com. Until then, hooey, hooey ty fyc and

[Darren O'Neill]

adios mo fun and such.

[Larry Blidner]

Hey all.

[Darren O'Neill]

In the morning. I tune in to hear the best media deconstruction. While the forex chair gently squeaks Stories of lies and of worldwide destruction. While the borax gently squeaks I don't know why nobody told him how to grease that thing. And I recall what Adam would stole him. Now who controls him? I look at the world and I can see it is burning While the forex chair gently squeaks the meteor lies but still no one is learning While the borax chair gently squeaks. I don't know how you can ignore it does he mind like that thing. And if you imagine it then he'll start to h it he can make it sing. I look at the world and see the people are sleeping water Forex chair gently squeaks no agenda is needed to keep the lies from creeping still no Vorax chair J gently sweet. Still the war as chair gently squeaks

[Larry Blidner]

Squeak squeak squeak to wait Sweet sweet sweet. Oh my God.

[Darren O'Neill]

Look at listening.

[Unknown Contributor]

The best podcast in the universe. Audios mofo devorak org na.

That was the most fulfilling, hilarious, amazing thing I've ever heard.