Beach Steppin' | The Marcus Smart Rollercoaster, All-Star Avdija, Ja Morant's Next Chapter

Summary

No Dunks | Beach Steppin' | The Marcus Smart Rollercoaster, All-Star Avdija, Ja Morant's Next Chapter

Date: November 6, 2025
Hosts: J.E. Skeets, Tas Melas, Trey Kirby, JD
Podcast Theme: NBA talk with listener questions, inside looks at current trends, big headlines, and memorable moments from around the league.

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Episode Overview

This episode of No Dunks features the crew diving through the NBA's hottest headlines and oddities. After briefly reacting to a fresh "wedgie" and a legendary Kevin Durant moment, Skeets and crew hit the figurative "beach"—their beloved mailbag segment. Along the way, they tackle the Marcus Smart experience, Denny Avdija’s All-Star level, Ja Morant’s uncertain Memphis future, NBA Cup debates, and the evolving landscape of national TV broadcasts. Engaging banter, insight, and rapid-fire questions make this a lively episode for NBA diehards and casual listeners alike.

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Key Discussion Points

1. NBA Game Roundup and Takeaways

• Wedgie Alert: Kevin Durant gets his second-ever tracked “wedgie,” making it a “Wedgendary” moment.
  • (02:47) "Wedgie from a legend equals Wedgendary." — Schuman (via B)
• Lakers’ Grit and Deandre Ayton Renaissance (05:36–07:25)
  • Highlight: Lakers grind out a win without LeBron and Austin Reaves. Deandre Ayton’s form is praised.
  • Memorable Ayton Quote (05:55):
    "That's our main point turning defense and offense ... I give my hats off to JJ [Redick] ... He's been the same guy since I got here. Drilling that championship mentality ... it's contagious."
• The Marcus Smart Rollercoaster (06:58–07:38)
  • Smart almost hands the game away, but his hustle clinches the win.
  • Skeets (06:58): "Smart was the pros and cons of Marcus Smart."
• Fun Lakers Details (07:38–09:23)
  • Bronny James getting minutes, Rui Hachimura’s major improvement, and the uplifted team energy. Luka Doncic’s entertainment factor also praised.
  • Trey (08:58): "He's having a great time. Tass might be right. He might be the MVP this season."
• Other Game Notes
  • Timberwolves’ shaky defense, Knicks dominance on the glass, and lineup puzzles in Minny.
  • Blazers’ comeback versus OKC; Deni Avdija's All-Star leap (14:04–16:55).
    • "He is playing on an All-Star level right now ..." — Skeets (14:04)
  • Nuggets & Jokic's mastery over Miami continues.
    • Quote (17:07): Spoelstra: "Jokic manages every aspect of the game. He's playing the scoreboard. He knows intuitively when those swing moments are ... He dominates those aspects of the game."
  • Donovan Mitchell’s video game clapback:
    • (19:49) "A kid on 2K told him he was washed up ... so he said okay, I'll make sure to give you a shout out in the post game. Then he went and had 46."

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2. Injury Update

• Walker Kessler Out for Season (23:55–27:39)
  • Shoulder surgery, contract implications, and the personal connection ("met his dad on a plane!").
  • "Shoulder surgery is like a massive rehab ... it takes a long time." — E (24:31)

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3. Beach Steppin’ – Listener Mailbag

a) Love & Hate: NBA Players This Season (28:10–36:06)

• Players Skeets “Hates” (Struggling):
  • Derrick White ("What’s going on with Derrick White? ... just struggling here to start the year." — Skeets 28:38)
• Players They “Love”:
  • Aaron Gordon ("20 and 6 ... makes plays on both ends.") & Norman Powell ("... turned into this type of player late in career ... averaging 23.5, 52% from deep.")
  • Trey on Amen Thompson: "He's frickin awesome ... just so fun."
  • Bobby Portis gets criticized as a slow starter.
• Other Notables: Tyrese Maxey, Deni Avdija as big bright spots; Mavericks inefficiency lamented.

b) NBA Cup: Division-based Groups? (36:06–41:56)

• Debate on whether Cup groupings should align with divisions for relevance/tradition.
  • "Literally, why else do we have divisions?" — E (38:05)
  • General consensus: No one really cares about divisions currently; little impact on fan engagement.

c) Ranking National TV Broadcasts (42:00–47:20)

• Preferred Order of TV Experiences:
  • Amazon Prime > NBC > ESPN/ABC > NBA TV
    • "Amazon is far better. They've done a great job. ... The production is just so fun." — B (44:35)
    • NBA TV graphics notably panned. "Their graphics have been garbage for 20 years." — D (45:18)

d) Ja Morant and the Vince Carter "Malcontent" Trajectory (49:44–57:37)

• Listener asks: Is Ja’s Memphis exit paralleling Vince Carter’s in Toronto?
• In-depth comparison: Both early stars, spectacular dunkers, soured franchises, questionable effort at the end.
  • "It was this idea ... Vince sort of gave up, started pouting, started pointing the finger at everybody else ... those are sort of similar to how it's going right now with Ja Morant in the last couple weeks." — D (53:52)
• Derrick Rose-Chicago comp introduced too: team moved on as another star blossomed.
• Skeets predicts Ja will bounce back wherever he lands.

e) Australian NBA Players & Olympic Prognostication (60:03–65:45)

• Identifying current Aussies in the NBA, excitement for 2032 Brisbane Olympics.
• Shout-outs to Josh Giddey, Dyson Daniels, and developing prospects.
  • "Do you have a favorite young Australian player?" — "Josh G, of course." — E (64:03)

f) Magic Bros: The New Clipper Bros? (65:45–69:35)

• The “Magic Bro” viral moment is played; will it replace “Clipper Bros” as the show’s outro vibe?

g) Show Format Meta (70:17–71:06)

• Is No Dunks more YouTube TV or podcast first? Conclusion: Both—the lines are intentionally blurred.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Marcus Smart’s End-of-Game Drama:
  "He was making plays left and right. Probably the only reason they win the game. But then he nearly gave it away..." — D (06:58)
• On Jokic’s Brilliance:
  "It’s just like that complete control of, like, my team needs this at this moment. Always one or two steps ahead. And that’s Jokic in a nutshell." — D (17:27)
• On NBA TV Graphics:
  "Their graphics have been garbage for 20 years. I don’t understand it. ... It looks like a mess. I hate it so much." — D (45:18)
• On Ja Morant’s Uncertain Memphis Future:
  "He’s not playing like himself ... The Grizzlies are going to build around Jaren Jackson Jr. Ja doesn’t look like he wants to repair the relationship." — E (55:47)
• On Amazon’s NBA Broadcasts:
  "Amazon is—fun. ... The production is just so fun. It just looks awesome as far as the studio goes." — B (44:35)
• On Podcast/YouTube Blending:
  “Podcasting is a TV show. The lines are blurred. And we did that. That’s our fault.” — B (71:06)

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Timestamps to Important Segments

• (02:47) - Wedgie watch w/ Kevin Durant’s “Wedgendary” moment
• (05:36–07:38) - Lakers win recap; Marcus Smart’s end-game antics
• (10:04–12:33) - Wolves’ defensive struggles breakdown
• (14:04) - Blazers come back; Avdija’s All-Star leap
• (17:07) - Spoelstra’s Jokic praise
• (23:55–27:39) - Walker Kessler injury update
• (28:10–36:06) - Mailbag: NBA player love/hate & notable standouts
• (36:06–41:56) - Should NBA Cup groups be division-based?
• (42:00–47:20) - National TV broadcast power rankings
• (49:44–57:37) - Ja Morant parallels to Vince Carter’s Raptors exit
• (60:03–65:45) - Australian NBA player rundown & Olympic fever
• (65:45–69:35) - “Magic Bro” possible new outro clip
• (70:17–71:06) - Is No Dunks a TV show or a podcast?

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Episode Tone & Style

No Dunks continues its signature mixture of passionate, well-informed NBA analysis and chatty, irreverent, inside-joke-laden banter. The hosts blend nostalgia, granular statistical observations, and listener-focused engagement (especially during Beach Steppin’). Their style is loose and relatable, balancing silly with sharp, and always returning to their core love: basketball.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a quintessential No Dunks ride—equal parts hoops intel, pop-culture references, and community-building. It’s packed with timely NBA takes (Marcus Smart, Avdija, Jokic), deeper historical perspective (Ja–Vince comparison), and a celebratory spirit for basketball fandom in all forms.

If you missed the episode, this summary will catch you up on hijinks, highlights, and hot takes—almost as if you were right there on the beach with the guys yourself.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[D]

Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the no Dunks podcast, presented by FanDuel. Thursday, November 6, 2025 I'm J. Skeets here in the classic factory and alongside me, as always, Tas Melis.

[B]

Beach fans, this one's for you.

[D]

Next to him, it's my top shot, hot boy, Trey Kirby. Hey. And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer jd.

[B]

Hello.

[D]

There he is. Here we are. Audio's coming in crystal clear now. For people on YouTube, apologies for the false start there. It's all good. It happens. We go live. We got the fucking guts to go live.

[E]

We got the guts, you got the chocolate.

[D]

We're gonna hit the beach later today, answer a few of your questions, but we had another wedgie last night, so that's great. That's just great news. Wedgie number eight, Kevin Durant in Memphis. And he sort of has to get it up before the end of the shot clock goes and boom. Sticks it on the left. Inside jumper from kd. Our guy Schuman. Let me know at least last night, hey, there was a wedgie in Memphis. Okay, Great. Great stuff. And Schuman said, wedgie from a legend equals Wedgendary.

[B]

Not bad.

[D]

I like it. Shu. Yeah, I like it a lot. So there you go.

[B]

I thought that was the first one we've ever seen from Kevin Durant. We've been tracking these for a while. I said it immediately on Twitter. Diablo21 21 said December 4, 2017. He did it. You put it on your show. You talked about it, so I guess I just didn't remember. Then I went back and watched that show. It was a show where Trey and Lee shared a hot dog from either end of the hot dog. Wow.

[D]

Lady and the Tramp style.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[E]

Great show.

[B]

Yeah, it was. I was like, whoa, this is a good show. Watched it, went to bed with it. Just watching you guys eat a hot dog. So fun.

[E]

The Pocket dog era.

[B]

Very exciting, man.

[D]

You could also check on Wedgie tracker dot com. Yeah, just type in Durant's name.

[B]

That's where Diablo found it.

[D]

There it was. So great, Great stuff. We are hitting the beach, like I said, to answer your questions. A lot of these come in from our subscribers at Substack. Love to see it. Hey, join our substack page. $5 a month, $50 a year. Not a whole lot. But before that, there were so many games on last night that we need to touch on a few of them, I think, or I want to get your takeaways from some of them. Let me just chuck a bunch of stuff at you that happened, and then maybe you can pick one or two that you want to Highlight. Last night's ESPN doubleheader. The Knicks routed the Wolves 137, 114 in Anthony Edwards return from injury. Knicks looked great in the second game of the doubleheader. The Lakers survived a frantic final second or two for the 118, 116 win over the Spurs. We had the Blazers coming back from 22 down to hand the Thunder their first loss of the season. The Nets picked up their first win of the season, Michael Porter Jr. 32 and 11. So there are now no winless teams left in the NBA. Jokic had a monster triple double. The Nuggets still own the Miami Heat. And then Westbrook, a vintage triple double. They're calling it in a weird Kings warriors game where almost nobody played. Yes, all the stars were out. But 23.16 boards, 10 assists for Russ, who said after the game, humbly speaking, I'm the best rebounding guard ever. And he actually said that before he even knew it was actually true. He passed Jason Kidd as the guard in NBA history with the most rebounds.

[E]

Funny.

[D]

Yeah. So anyway, that's a lot. And there's other things too that maybe you want to address, but what jumped out to you?

[B]

I'll just start with the Lakers because they want to grind it out game. Something we did not expect to see about the Los Angeles Lakers before the season. They're now 7 2. They shot poorly in this game. Luca was there, but he shot poorly. No Austin Reeves, no LeBron James and they win this game. I gotta say, a big part of it was deandre Ayton who used to play phenomenally. I don't know if we can say this is the best part of his career, but right now, in these last two games, he dropped 22, 10 and two blocks last night, coming off 29, 10 rebounds and three blocks the game before. You just saw him on the defensive end where they won this game. They get a stop. Luka runs, he runs with them. And that's where Ayton gets that awesome alley oop from Luka. They just run in some cool plays where Aiden's just kind of there at the top of the key. Luka running around down screens. That's Ayton's cue. Go to the hoop, grabs the, gets the ball for Luka who finds Ayton. This quote, I think from Ayton says it all. He said that's our main point turning defense and offense. That's true. And then he said, I give my hats off to jj. I'm wearing a hat like JJ Redick. Actually JJ Redick wears hats like this. So let me give my hats off to JJ Just like Ayton did. He said he's been the same guy since I got here. Drilling that championship mentality, championship shape, championship communication. It's contagious. He's cooking. He's cooking right now. And the defense is truly cooking. I know we got a market smart experience at the end of this.

[D]

We sure did. Man. He was making plays left and right. Probably only the reason they win the game. But then he nearly gave it away with him stepping on the line as he tries to chuck it full court to end the game. And he stepped on it and they gave the ball to the spurs and they had a chance. Obviously champagne getting fouled and then misses the first one. Yeah, so then you got to go for the purpose miss and nearly got the tip. I think it was Kelvin Johnson. That a really good look at it. Anyway, Smart was the pros and cons of Marcus Smart.

[E]

I gotta imagine those are the biggest free throws Champagne's ever taken in the NBA. Maybe the NARS got to him. Marcus Smart looks rejuvenated. He basically took two years off in Memphis, and he's contributing to the Lakers right now. They got Bronny James playing.

[B]

It's crazy.

[E]

He's doing okay. He can't really score. He looks teeny tiny out there, but at least he's doing something. Rui Hachimura has been awesome this season. 15 points last night, guarded Wemby a whole bunch. He's averaging 17 a game so far this year on 59% shooting, 47% from three. He drew the charge on Wembanyama right there at the end. That fouled him out.

[B]

Yep.

[E]

You're calling if it was good. But, you know, Lakers get some calls at home for sure. They're fifth right now in FanDuel odds for the championship at 14 to 1, behind OKC, Cleveland, Denver, the Laker, or the Knicks. And then the Lakers. So that's interesting. Also look at Donage. This guy's playing defense right now. Five steals last night, two blocks. He's second in FanDuel MVP odds right now at plus 350. And he's having a great time. I feel like he was doing bits all night. Rui missed an easy basket after a dish from Luca, and Luca's like. He just starts laughing. Then he hits him with the crazy pass over his head. Rui knocks down the three. They call a timeout for the spurs, and Luka comes up to Rui. Bows to him like a samurai. I thought that was pretty funny. Got a steal late in the game. Made an ogre face. There's a time when he gets subbed out. Austin Reaves offers him his chair. Luka says, no, thank you. So Austin Reeves sits down, and Luka tried to sit in his lap.

[D]

That's good. He loves this team, having fun.

[E]

He's having a great time. And he looks really, really good. Tass might be right. He might be the MVP this season.

[B]

Yeah, he might be. Yeah. Yeah.

[E]

And he might lead the league in scoring as soon as he qualifies.

[D]

But then again, the Lakers might be doing this weird thing where, hey, LeBron, you just sit all year. We'll get you at the playoffs. And Luka and Austin Reaves could just take turns playing for the regular season, you play a couple, then I'll play a couple. You play a couple because everybody else is sort of contributing and it's working like they have an unbelievable record right now despite all the injuries.

[B]

Yeah. And Luka gets will get the credit for it. Even though he had a poor shooting night last night, everything goes through him. And despite shooting 9 of 27, he's had some poor 3 point shooting nights. He's enthused, he's happy. It's definitely emulated throughout the entire locker room and everybody is working hard yet we just didn't expect to say this at the beginning of the season that you'd go down the line here and say, wow, Marcus Smart, you look like a different player. Jake Laravia, you look freaking awesome. Maria Jamura, you look great. Deandre Ayton, you look great. Bronny James is playing crunch time minutes at times. What is going on? But they obviously are playing like a team and playing really well.

[D]

Any other games you want to touch on?

[E]

I mean I got unfortunately notes on like every single game from last night. I think we're going 120 minutes to. Here's something I'm monitoring. The Timberwolves are now 27th in the league in defense. They got lit up last night by the Knicks. 21 offensive rebounds for New York, 62 points in the paint and it was just a parade to the rim. There's like you see Deuce McBride getting the ball inbounded on the other side of the court. Just sprints down, nobody gets in front of him. Easy layup. Timeout for Minnesota. They're getting destroyed with Rudy Gobert off the court. When Rudy plays top five defense in the league when he sits 30th, they can't defend if Rudy Gobert isn't out there and he wasn't making a difference last night, getting beat on the glass as well. So if the Timberwolves aren't going to be able to play defense, they're not going to do anything this year because their offense isn't good enough to pick up the slack on the other end. Putting a little bit of this on Jaden McDaniels as well. I think he's been pretty poor to start the season.

[D]

Do you think? And they saw, they talked about it on the broadcast. This idea that he's almost because. Because Ant was out, he was asked to do more offensively and he hasn't focused as much on the defensive end. You buy that at all? That a player could do that?

[E]

Anthony Edwards should be an all defensive Team kind of player. Watch Michael Jordan tape. He said he watched Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant tape. Those guys made all defense all the time in their career. Has Ant even ever sniffed that? No, he's not motivated on that end.

[D]

No, he picks his spots. Maybe at the end of games when I'm with you for the most part. And he just came back. He had that excuse, but they got killed. It was a parade to the.

[B]

To the rim. Yeah. I thought when you're referring this guy looks good on offense but not on defense. It's Jade McDaniels.

[D]

That's what I was saying.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's what they said on the broadcast.

[D]

I think Doris brought it up. Yeah, that's cool. And that Finch was even saying to McDaniels and I guess Rudy Gobert, like, hey, we got to get that defensive identity back. It starts with you guys. You got to lead it. But I agree. I mean, you got to include Anthony Edwards in there, the athlete that he is for sure.

[B]

Yeah. Weird fourth quarter to give up 43 points like that to the Knicks. I say weird because that's what this team should be about. This should be about defense. But yeah, it came down to that fourth quarter and I mean, the third quarter, they started to rip it apart. And then the fourth, I was surprised at not to see the Wolves bounce back a little bit, but it's. Yeah, they're not on the same page.

[E]

McDaniels is their point of attack defender because they don't have anybody else. And that's not his strength at all. He's better as like a roaming kind of guy. He gets picked off so easily. They were just putting him in screen and roll all night. And that puts a lot of pressure on Gobert to try and defend. And that's why you saw Brunson have a nice night. You saw him setting up OG Anunoby as well. I don't know what they're going to do because they don't have a real guard stopper out there anymore.

[B]

Yeah, I think the Dante DiVincenzo experiment is not going to last him. Starting a point guard just doesn't make a ton of sense for this team the way they've been the last couple of years. He's awesome off the bench, but they do need a ball stopper and, yeah, it's going to be difficult to find on their roster. I know they're throwing Jalen Clark out there because he's freaking good at it, but he can't run an offense. So, yeah, it's a puzzle I guess they'll try Mike Conley again. Because he's Mike Conley.

[D]

Yep. What a mask on Divincenzo, eh? What a look right now after the.

[E]

It's so strapped down in the back. A thousand straps back there.

[D]

Yeah. It feels like there's so much on his nose too, like extra protection. But he did a number on it for sure.

[E]

I did like Josh Hart trying on his mask in pregame. Like, they got all the Villanova guys back together and they were just being silly.

[D]

They booped each other. They booped each other.

[E]

Yeah. You know, he had to have been so sad to get traded for last year. Yeah, they were like filming commercials together. They were doing GQ shoots together. They said, go to Minnesota, man.

[D]

Yeah. And. And, and he had like just set the franchise record for he's made, so he was playing well. Now, I guess the one good thing, he got traded to a good team. Imagine he got traded to like the Wizards or something like that. That would have really sucked, but got a chance to go to another conference finals. But yeah, still, he's got to be disappointed being away from his bros. Yeah.

[B]

And that's why he started the season poorly and he just wasn't right. And he got better as the season went on, but he wasn't a starting guard. Like they're trying now. It's, it's. It's not a fit right now.

[D]

The Blazers, like I said too, coming back from 22 down. They caught fire in the fourth quarter. Some big shot making in this game. And Denny Avdia, man, he is playing on an all star level right now. 26 points, 10 boards, nine assists. So he sort of took what he was doing at the end of last season those last couple months, and that's come right into this season. And Drew Holiday, man, is having an impact on the Blazers. More clutch free throws. He had a big three two, and Portland here is five and three tk. That's a quality win. You know, the Thunder had to lose at some point, and they are missing some guys, but still you beat a really good team. Got the Sega Baba the second night of a back to back with OKC coming up there, but a hell of a comeback.

[E]

If you're okc, you're calling it a schedule loss, which I think fair enough. But the Blazers have a lot of good wins so far this season. They've beat the warriors, they beat the Lakers, they beat the Nuggets, and they beat the Thunder. That's probably the top four teams in the Western Conference. Throw the rockets in there I'm not sure when they actually match up, but you can't count the Blazers out in any game because they're going to play defense. They're one of these teams that does the full court pressure, but they're actually really good at it. They have versatile defenders. They got clinging inside, able to help clean up things if they do get beat. They're also super hot from three last night. 19 threes on the night. I thought they caught fire in the second quarter. Like OKC stretched the lead out to 22 is like this is going to be a destruction for the Thunder. But Instead they went eight of 14 from three and it felt like all eight of them came immediately after the Thunder took their big lead. But it's kind of weird. They bring in Jrue Holiday. You're thinking, all right, they got a new creator. He's going to be the guy to assume the playmaking duties with Scoot Henderson going out. And that's not what's happening at all. Denny Abdia is the creator. He had nine assists last night. It's Drew Holiday who's scoring. He had 10 points in the fourth, hit a big three, knocked down some free throws at the end. Denny had 11 in the fourth with three assists and it feels like every one of his assists is I drive into the lane and then throw it back up to the top of the key because they're just like waiting for whoever back there. So a nice win again for Portland.

[B]

Yeah, Danny, great see him in the fourth quarter because he started poorly shooting the ball. He didn't hit a shot in the first half. He's over seven. Third quarter started slow too. Again, was one of five, so one of 12 going into the fourth quarter and that's when he really took off. And he gets going when they start to pick up the pace. This team is always in a game because even if they're down, they just start running and they are the third fastest team in the NBA and that just gets them going and Denny gets going. They have incredible athletes who other teams don't trust as three point shooters and that's why they trust the hey, well, we'll just block the paint and see what you do up there on top. And Denny's a great bastard. Denny's a great playmaker and you can see Denny has evolved just as as that as a playmaker. He was. He's doing it for Israel in the Euro basket this summer. That's what he does. He is their guy and he's also able to take the other team's best offensive player defensively. He's just a damn good player right now.

[D]

And that was a funny ending in that one too. Was it Isaiah Cho that got fouled right at the end on the what looked at first to maybe be a three point shot that would have given him a chance to tie it up. But, oh, foot's on the line so it's only going to be two. And then you got to do the, you know, hit one again and try and miss one again. Just a weird, weird ending. I wanted to Highlight Jokic with 33 points, 16 assists and 15 rebounds. Fifth triple double of the season. Nuggets again. They just own the Miami Heat. I think it's 11 straight wins against them. Bam. Had to leave this one. So that hurt their chances. But 122, 112 win. And I just love what Eric Spoelstra said after the game about Jokic. I just want to read it to you. He said, quote, jokic manages every aspect of the game. He's playing the scoreboard. He knows intuitively when those swing moments are. When there's an opportunity to take a six point lead, push it to 12, push it to 14. He won all of those battles. Whether it be an assist or an offensive rebound or just score or bust out in transition to get an easy opportunity. He dominates those aspects of the game. End quote. I love that so much. Always like, what makes a superstar? What makes a superstar? Oh, go get you a bucket. You know, do this, whatever. And this is really what it is to me. When I think about it more and more, it's just like that complete control of like my team needs this at this moment. Always one or two steps ahead. And that's Jokic in a nutshell. And he's just amazing. You watch this, just watch the passes alone from one game against Miami Heat in an early November game, he'll have a better compilation than 99% of every NBA player for the rest of their career in one game. I'm not even exaggerating. We were joking about assists that are like here, pass it to a guy who hits a three. Yach has never any of those.

[E]

Never.

[D]

They're all like what the hell? Like obviously cutting back door flips to the corner. Obviously hit a heads like they're just so pretty. It's beautiful basketball to watch. So a great game from him.

[E]

No surprise he could have been walking around the arena with his hand held to the floor too smalling the entire game. The Heat kept switching onto him. Khalil Ware didn't stand A chance. Had no way to guard Jokic inside, so they were trying their switches and guess what? That wasn't working at all. Jokic went six of six in the restricted area. He had two dunks on a fast break. They said he was going to dunk heaven. Finished 10 of 13 in the lane. Nuggets though still getting slaughtered in the minutes when Jokic sits. Yeah, ain't nothing changed, but he can play a lot of minutes and when he's on, they're going to win.

[B]

They started the season better in the non Jokic minutes. But this one was bad. This one was bad.

[E]

It was funny counts, unfortunately.

[D]

It was funny.

[E]

They were good at offense, remember that? They're down to 14th in offense now.

[D]

Well, I mean this, the small sample size, Obviously it takes one or two games and you can drop 10 point or 10 spots. Yeah, I did. I loved Hawkes trying to guard Jokic. I mean that's just not fair.

[E]

Doesn't have a chance.

[D]

No, no, no, no. But man, just go watch the passes alone. Incredible. Any other games that I even threw at you or not, you know? The Cavs got a big win.

[E]

Don Mitchell. Yeah, easy breezy, 46 points and Darius Garland's return post game he said a kid on 2K told him he was washed up. Hadn't seen a Donovan Mitchell highlight in years. So he said okay, watch this, I'll make sure to give you a shout out in the post game. Then he went and had 46 and didn't look like he was breaking a sweat at all. At one point the Sixers broadcast just said he's just good at basketball. It was easy for Mitchell against the Sixers last night. They were on the second night of a back to back after blowing a mess. So you can understand a loss.

[D]

Garland returned though, and this was their best offensive performance. Yeah, probably goes hand in hand a little bit.

[B]

Guys are getting back earlier than expected. We saw Anthony Edwards, supposed to be out for two weeks, came back 10 days later. Luka Doncic, supposed to be out for a week, came back five days later or five days. He was supposed to be a week reevaluated and he came back five days later. And this Darius Garland thing, it was supposed to be a little bit longer, but he's back and those jerseys I, I can't get behind. You're the throwbacks from, I guess, you know, the mid aughts. LeBron was wearing them.

[D]

The blues, you're saying with Cleveland and then like the poker chip, almost piping type type vibe.

[E]

I'm with you.

[B]

Yeah, they're just kind of.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

Kind of ugly.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Just throw your. Your baby blue lands out there.

[D]

You like those?

[B]

Yeah, those are better.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

How many times are they wearing these jerseys? So they've got.

[D]

Oh, I don't know.

[B]

They've got four. They've got four. I just didn't know that this was coming.

[D]

They're here and they're surprised.

[B]

Great to see Darius Garland back. They need him. Donovan Mitchell needs him there. They look good.

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[D]

Well, I'll tell you someone who won't be coming back. That's a segue for you. Utah Jazz starting center Walker Kessler is going to need surgery on his left shoulder and will miss the remainder of the season. So the procedure is due to a torn labrum and this is an injury that Kessler first sustained back in college. I guess it's been bothering him all season long. It's type of lingering type of issue and they're now doing surgery. Trey and this is a tough loss for the Jazz. He played really well start the season. I think he was averaging like round up 15 and 11 through Utah's first five games and he's out there for defense and they've been scrappy.

[E]

Yeah, really sucks for Kessler because they didn't come to an extension before the season which means he was going to be going into restricted free agency. Takes a trade chip off the table for the Jazz, this is probably good for their tanking. If we're being quite honest, they will be worse on defense because Walker Kessler shuts it down. The key will be seeing how he's able to recover and rehab. Shoulder surgery is like a massive rehab. It takes a long time before you're even able to put your arms over your head. So his three point shot looked like it was starting to come around. I don't know if he'll ever be a three point shooter, but it makes it even tougher now that he's going to have to be recovering. But at least it's his other shoulder, not his right shoulder. So the other takeaway I have is that Kevin Love just became important at his job and it's ruining his life. He was getting quite frustrated last night, putting him into pick and roll quite a bit and just throwing it over the top to Jaylen Duran who had a nice 22 and 22. He had a Richie Beno roast beef last night.

[D]

The rbrb.

[E]

It was a nice win though for the, for the Pistons. They took care of business. They should have been favored in that game and they just took it to him.

[D]

Yeah. Thoughts on Kessler hero for the season.

[B]

Yeah, that was an odd Game there because the Jazz were up early. It looked like they were taking care of business. Yeah. No Walker for the rest of the season.

[D]

It stinks.

[B]

We saw him. We saw actually his dad we flew with on a plane. Was it to Utah? He was coming to join to the all Star game where he was part of. Son was part of the skills competition. And he buried that three during that skills competition.

[D]

Yes, he did.

[B]

The corner three.

[D]

So you are the only person maybe besides his dad who knows that or remembered that.

[B]

Yeah. So maybe he was a local. Local dad. Chad Kessler, he played here in college.

[D]

Local dad.

[B]

So we can get him in here to talk about his son and to make a p for why his son should have gotten extension. How much of a contract he should get in this offseason. Just get an injury report from Chad. But it does suck. It just sucks. Oh, yeah.

[D]

And he was expanding his game a little bit, like again out there for defensive purposes, but they were using him a little bit more as a passer up top. And yeah, he was sprinkling in some three point shots. He went 6 of 8 from deep on the season in five games. But I mean, you laugh at that. Sure. But he made six three pointers all of last season in many more games than that. So he was getting a little more confident with that and didn't look all that bad. So it sucks for him. Sucks for the Jazz. And yeah, he's out. You do wonder, like, because this is like a lingering issue. It's like, was there any consideration for something like this back in the off season or back in April to get it fixed then, to then buy you, you know, six or seven months of recovery time that is now lost to the season? I don't know. Who knows? Maybe it was re aggravated. I'm sure it was in one of these games.

[E]

But I mean, probably. But he probably was like, I don't want to have to do shoulder rehab. I want to go out there and play for a contract.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

But look what happened.

[D]

Yeah, I also want to hit the beach maybe during the summer, you know, without your. With your shoulder not all bandaged up.

[E]

That's a great point.

[D]

You may not even be able to get in the water. I don't know. Weird tan lines like that. Yeah. Let's hit the beach, guys. Let's do it. You got the buzz, I got the rockets. You got the nuts, I got the chocolates. We got that chick shack down pack, blah, blah, blah. You got that certain special Genesis. Let go the beach, baby. Oh, yeah. We are on the beach. And a lot of these coming by way of substack test.

[B]

We got some good ones here. First one. Hey, no. Hey, Bo Nkey do.

[E]

Come on.

[D]

Why does everybody do that?

[B]

I believe we all know that Skeet is a quickly hater. But who does he love so far this season? Name one NBA player you just can't stand so far this NBA season and one you can't get enough of. This is from a shack in Saskatoon where the basketballs roam freely like tumbleweeds. Jamie K. Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. Thank you so much.

[D]

Very nice.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

I guess I am a quickly hater. Don't love him at the point guard position. Nice to see the Raptors have turned the season around, you know, again, he'll find his groove. So I'll give you another guy that I hate. At least just this year. I actually really love the guy, but the guy stinks right now, and I don't know why. Derrick White. What's going on with Derek White? It's so strange. He had a decent night last night. In a big win over the Wizards, he hit half his shots. He hit a couple three pointers. That was his best game of the season. He's shooting 32% from the field. He's 22 for 81 from deep. That's 27%. What the hell, he's good. He is a good player. So it's just odd. He's only at 14 points per game, so he's just struggling here to start the year. I'm sure he'll have a stretch where he catches fire, but that's an odd one. So I'll throw him in with my quickly hate two guys. I love Aaron Gordon. This guy's awesome. I mean, I know a part of it is playing with Jokic, but 20 and 6, he's averaging. He's never shot the three ball better. His usage percentage is up. I mean, he just makes plays on both ends all the time. And then Norman Powell. It's wild that this guy's like, turned into like this type of player, like, pretty late in his career. Like, we knew him from the Raptors days. He had moments, sure, but he thought maybe last year was, I don't know, an aberration. Shot the hell out of the ball with the Clippers, but he's shooting even better now with the heat, averaging 23.52. And he's shooting 52% from deep. And he's being asked to do a whole lot more with no Tyler hero. His usage percentage is up to like 27%. That's in the ballpark of, like, Julius Randall, Jamal Murray, Kawhi, Leonard Harden. That's pretty goddamn impressive. So those are two guys I'm loving right now, along with a little bit of hate.

[E]

Nice.

[B]

Normie is great. I don't really love the, like a fine wine. He gets better as he ages, that type of saying. I think there's a better one for Norm, maybe because I'm not really a wine drinker, so I don't really care for any stage of the wine. You know what I mean? But Norm has gotten better. I need a.

[E]

That from grapes to glass. He hates it all.

[D]

I just.

[B]

I just want. I. I need a better saying for Norm. I'll find one. It's not going to come right.

[D]

Well, you like baseball.

[B]

I like baseball.

[D]

So maybe like, you know, like a glove. You first buy a glove, it's a little stiff, sort of sucks. You're like, I don't know.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

But then you got to working in. Get.

[B]

Norm Powell is like a baseball glove.

[D]

He's like a baseball glove. Works better for you. Better with age, more malleable, deeper pockets.

[B]

You ever. You ever walk into a sports department store like a Dick's, and you see that oven by the basket, the baseball gloves, the ovens. You can just throw it in so it softens up.

[E]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

That's awesome.

[B]

I.

[D]

My dad did that back in the day. Like, my glove went in the. In the oven.

[B]

In the oven, yeah.

[D]

Like, rubber band it all up. Definitely drove over it with the car.

[B]

Yeah. Get your mallet and smack that thing.

[E]

I can't believe they did that with Norman Powell.

[D]

I know.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

That's crazy.

[E]

Wrapped him up in a rubber band. But look, he came out and now he can drive to the hoop. It's crazy. That's really cool that they do that at Dick's. I never go to the baseball glove section.

[B]

Yeah, but you should. I guess. Dicks have improved as well. They're getting better with age. Just like Norm Powell put it on.

[D]

Dicks are better than.

[B]

What do you got? You have a player you just can't stand.

[E]

Guy. Guy can't stand right now. Bobby Portis. Bobby Portis has more shots than points this season and more turnovers than assists. He sucks at the beginning of a season. I feel like I trashed him last year at the beginning of the year. But then by the end of the year, you know, he starts playing himself into shape, catches a rhythm, and he looks indispensable for the Bucks. But I don't know. I haven't really checked into his career splits, but it feels like he's a slow starter every single year. And this year it's really sticking out.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I'll start with the positive side for Jamie and Saskatoon. You could watch this guy from your shack every single time. Amen. Thompson is frickin awesome. Yeah, he's good just on every level. He's so fun because he goes into an offensive possession. You don't know if you're gonna get the good or the bad because, look, he's not shooting the three ball all that well. The defensive player will play off of him and you just don't know what you're going to get. He can drive into the lane. He's so tall, he can see everybody. Then he'll pass off and he'll, you know, hang out in the dunker spot and be a great cutter to the hoop. He's just so good, so good at everything. I underestimated what this Rockets team could be offensively because they're one of the.

[D]

Best right now, aren't they?

[B]

They are the best. Oh, they are the best. Yeah. And so that's, that's pretty good for.

[D]

A team like that. We said, like, not a lot of shooters out there. Ye to have the best offense. That's pretty impressive.

[B]

Yeah, you can count that, that second possession that they get because they get that offensive rebounds. That's part of it, yeah. 40% of their misses, they go and grab that board. And I like the fact that IME Duke is just doing everything with this guy. He, they, he knows that Thompson should be guarding the other team's best player, but they've thrown Josh Kogi into the starting lineup to deal with that a little bit more. So a man can be free on the offensive end, so he's fun to watch. I will say the other side of everything in terms of offensive efficiency is just the Dallas Mavericks in general. They are so bad to watch. They are so bad. And it's not just about Cooper Flag playing the point guard position as he is. They're just horrendous sometimes. They don't get shots up. They are the worst team in the NBA offensively, and that shouldn't happen.

[D]

D' Angelo Russell started last night.

[B]

They threw him in.

[D]

He was inserted into the starting lineup. Now they lost to the Pelicans and they were not happy. They look pretty down in the dumps right now. The footage I saw of some of those guys walking back to the locker room, the Mavericks, like, I mean, you just lost to the Pels and you're trying to, like, turn your season around here. They're two and six now.

[B]

Yeah, they. They lost to the Pals of Sadiq Bay. Was awesome. That's why they. That's why Troy Weaver in the Pelicans front office goes and gets everyone who has any sort of Washington, Maryland relations. Yeah. Bring him here. He was awesome. But Clay went to the bench last night. Yeah. For d' Angelo Russell. And they. They look bad.

[E]

Yeah. Cooper had a shot to win it at the buzzer. Looked kind of awkward, like a nice move to get to his spot at the free throw line, but then kind of shot like a. Almost like a Jakob Pertle, like, push shot. Just didn't look very confident. But nice win for the Pelicans.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Two straight without Zion. Derek Queen was pretty solid again, I thought in that one. Him and Cooper Flag were high school teammates, which is probably why post game, Cooper said, I don't think I've ever lost this much in my life.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

They had two lottery picks on the same team in high school, and I think they had more NBA players in their starting five at Montverde.

[D]

That's why they did the jersey swap last night. Flagging Queen.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And after Cooper missed, Queen, like, grabbed his shoulders and started shaking him like, ah, suck off.

[D]

I gotcha.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

What about you?

[E]

For guys, you're loving Tyrese Maxey. For me, I've been a Maxey fan for a long time, but he's leveled up even more this season. I've talked a lot about how much stronger he looks. He gets downhill all the time, getting a lot more free throws. He's technically first in the league in scoring right now, only because Luka hasn't played the requisite number of games to surpass him. But 33 points per game, knocking down threes at an incredible rate. He wasn't ready to be the number one guy last season, and it was just awkward with. Sometimes Embiid is playing, sometimes he's not. That's still the case, but I think the Sixers knew that coming into this season, unlike last year, when they were a little bit unsure. So they said, we're reorienting, reorienting our team around Tyrese Maxey. We're going to be a fast team. Most of the time, they do slow down when Embiid is in, but when he's not, it's just Maxi has full license to run the offense. He's doing a great job.

[D]

All right, our next question here on the beach. Do you think it'd be better if cup groups were Based on divisions. I feel like this would give more meaning to divisions and would create cup rivalries by competing again against, excuse me, the same teams every year. I think this would also give it a March Madness like feeling by needing to win against your division slash conference. Respect the cup writes in Josh. D. Start with your thoughts. Does Josh have something here? Do you think they should do this?

[B]

I appreciate you respecting the cup, Josh, but I. I don't appreciate this constant conversation about this. I'm kind of over it.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

This would just mean an additional game against the divisional rivals that you already play four times. So this would mean a fifth game against them. Does it really change anything? Do you really think about. Well, now we're playing every team in our division five times. Well, this is a big thing, this division rivalry.

[D]

Couldn't those games that are cup related just count as they do for your regular season? Just keep it at 4, you know?

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So. But what are you saying? What would they schedule? Like, who are you playing in your division? You're just. Oh, you're saying.

[D]

I'm saying just like the four games you play in your cup games are obviously against the four other teams in your division, and that's just one of the four times you play them in the regular season. Just schedule cup a cup game to.

[B]

Schedule it that way you don't have.

[D]

To add a fifth game is what I'm saying here.

[B]

I guess.

[D]

Right, right. I mean, really, we're getting at the core of, like, do you like, every year, the cup divisions being different groups, I guess they call it.

[B]

Yeah, well, yeah, I guess that's what they're saying. I don't think it really affects anything. I got no problem with it.

[D]

Okay. Because they, like, randomly draw it. Right. Like sort of in terms of your team, previous season record.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

That they're trying to, like, weight it evenly as much as possible. Even though we get some groups of death and some light ones and it's.

[B]

From the other 10 teams in your conference, it's not a team from the other conference. So it's not out of your division. It's the other 10 teams that you're playing a game.

[E]

Yeah, I think they should do it. Switch to having divisions be the cup groups because literally, why else do we have divisions?

[B]

Yeah, there's no.

[E]

No reason.

[B]

No, there's no reason.

[D]

Right. Yeah.

[E]

And there are still a lot of teams, like, I don't know. Let me. Let me check my cup standings here. The Hawks and the Wizards, they're in the same division and they're in the same cup group. So there is crossover. It wouldn't change the schedule at all. And it would mean something a little bit. And maybe, maybe, maybe people would care. Be like, oh, we've won the division. We've won the cup division the last three seasons.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. No chance.

[E]

Nobody cares.

[B]

Nobody cares about.

[D]

You're right.

[B]

Nobody cares about actual divisions that have been there for 75 years. And the banner that gets hung, that gets a lot of franchises made fun of. Well, the Toronto Raptors are high. Are hoisting a division series championship banner.

[D]

The Atlantic, baby, it was ours.

[B]

I don't think it really matters. I think, yeah, you get to be part of a different division, whatever that means. I mean, I don't know.

[E]

Can't get behind. Keep track of. It is easier to keep track of. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[E]

You're like, we know who we're playing this year and we know what our group is called.

[B]

Yeah, I. Adam Silver is changing the who's in your division just to give it some gravitas. Something, you know, something different because this NBA cup is different. That's why he's doing it. But does anybody really remember the divisions in the NBA Cup?

[C]

No. The groups.

[E]

Well, exactly, exactly.

[B]

It would be.

[E]

It would be more memorable if it were based on divisions.

[D]

Yeah, you would know. I mean, you know, as a Raptors fan, who at least there is in your division. Like, you can rip that off.

[B]

Stuff. Yeah. Right now. Right now. In their group. You corrected me as to if it's a group or division. Right. Okay. So for the Raptors group here in the NBA Cup, Josh, I didn't think we'd go this deep into this, but it's respect here. This is respect. The Raptors group is the Hawks, Wizards, Cavs and Pacers.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

So it's more memory.

[D]

So they have nobody from their division.

[B]

They don't. They do not. They don't. They don't have a Celtic, a Sixer, a Net or. A Net or a Nick.

[D]

I don't mind this idea. I mean, I think the worry is, like. Because we only have 14. Like, you win your group and then the one wild card. Maybe there's concern, like, we have better divisions than other divisions. So we're always going to have, like, the sort of the cheap division or two that, like, always get to go to the knockout round. Right. Just because they're in crappy divisions where other better teams are, like, cannibalizing one another. Maybe that's, I think, why they tried to do this. Like, okay, let's give these other teams that are in loaded divisions other chances to get out.

[B]

Yeah, but I think they're also just trying to make it different than the NBA season. But you bring up a point about not having to add an extra game to who you play in your division. If they do that, the schedule makers. But I don't know how hard that is. I guess it's not. They could figure it out. I mean, they will tell you it's difficult making a schedule, but sure, yeah, I believe that if it doesn't have to increase the number, I would say that because you don't want to see the same team. And the whole point of a division is there, you know, air quotes, local or regional, like close by rivals. So does that jump up another level? Having to play them again, you know.

[D]

Having to play Bucks and Pacers battling it out.

[B]

They don't like for the right to.

[D]

Move on to the knockout round. Oh, there's something here. It's like, why not? I mean, you could do it for a year, try it out. Yeah, sure. And then just go back.

[E]

Yeah, exactly.

[D]

If you want. Anyway, we'll get that. Maybe we'll get a poll going on that. Would you like to see the cup go to. We say we respect it. Let's.

[B]

I did. Yeah. I heard it to the test. I heard another conversation about it. I just.

[D]

I just can't.

[B]

I can't get behind it. So I'm just being annoying. All right, next question.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Power rank your overall viewing experience when watching games on each of the below national TV providers. And here they are, Amazon prime, espn, abc, NBA TV and NBC. Slash Peacock. Which is the most enjoyable to the least enjoyable? That's from Steve M. Let's rank them, Trey. All right.

[E]

If I'm ranking them, for me, the list would go prime first. I love Blake and Udonis Haslam. I like the court work they do.

[D]

Yep.

[E]

They dressed up in costume for Halloween. Oh, respect the costume. Next would be NBC for me.

[D]

Yep.

[E]

I do feel like they're the ones that do the players. It's like Noah Eagle sitting in the middle, Robbie Hummels with one bench, Austin Rivers with the other bench. Seems lonely to me.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Sitting there by yourself the whole time.

[D]

Yeah. It hasn't really worked for me all that well. It's fine. They're trying things, but I don't think it's going to be a keeper, to be honest.

[E]

Yeah, I do think they have, you know, lost. Scorebug talk. That thing looks nice. It looks different compared to the other ones. A Little bit more ornate.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

No minimalism. Great stuff. And I liked most recently they were like reacting to Vucovic hitting the corner three to beat the Sixers. And I love like seeing the social reactions from that. And then Scalabrini coming to the board and explaining, look, watch modest Bou zealous cut on a 45 cut. And how he draws Quentin Grimes eyes. Which means Embiid has to help, which means Vuchovic is open in the corner. You don't see that a lot. On my bottom two, which would be ESPN followed by NBA tv.

[D]

I have the exact same order as Trey Kirby. I was wondering if we'd have the same. I went Amazon, NBC, ESPN and NBA tv.

[B]

Same.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Amazon is. Is fun. I do agree that the play by play person with the analysts at each bench, I don't know if that's going to work. It just. We know from doing a billion shows together that the chemistry is there when you're sitting beside someone. Obviously it's not the same calling a game, but I think it just helps being beside at least one person. You know, the. The other person could fly from bench to bench. Sort of like a sideline reporter, I guess. But it doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't really do a lot, but Amazon is. Is far better. I think they've done. They've done a great job. The young players who love this freaking game, they join and. And they don't have to be there every single week. Like we saw Nash not be there because I guess he's recording a pod with LeBron, but he'll get. But he can get filled in by so many guys. You know, it can be a Blake, Dirk, you donis. We still got a Candace Parker coming, Dwayne Wade coming. So there's.

[D]

They're low rotating cast.

[B]

Yeah. But then they still got great play by play legends.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

You know, and Ian Eagle and Harland and you know, they got the Grady and then Stan Van beside them and Brent, they've got the best deep roster. And the production is just so fun. As Trey mentioned there. It just looks awesome as far as the studio goes.

[D]

I have a feeling most people would have them in that order right now through a couple weeks here.

[E]

Very fresh, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

A new perspective.

[B]

Good to see if we were gonna rank score bugs.

[E]

Oh, boy.

[B]

I think we change it. I think I go with you. I think NBC is the winner.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Ornate, as you said. That's a good word for. It looks awesome. Colorful. NBA TV unfortunately is never going to be the top.

[D]

Their graphics have been garbage for 20 years. I don't understand it. I never understood it when I was there. We were there. I said it every time, every year. I said, why are we not updating our graphics as a network? It looks like shit. And I thought I was going crazy, but still the same old garbage. Spacing's all off. It looks like a mess. I hate it so much. Well, that's why I really wanted to get that off my chest. I held that in for like six or seven years.

[B]

We made our own. We made our own.

[D]

Ours were great.

[B]

Yeah, we went off. Off the board and they were mad, but we were like, yeah, sorry, your graphics don't look good.

[D]

Oh my God.

[B]

Well, that's why they're fourth. They're always going to be a little below these other. The partners with the NBA.

[D]

Have you watched a game on NBA TV yet this year? Like a full game? Have they even had one? I don't even know.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask one.

[D]

I think they did one night.

[B]

But didn't they take. I think they literally took all of them off NBA tv?

[D]

I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

[B]

But you know, they've got the, the sort of. The new cast of. Of players like Rudy Gays there.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

John Wall, is he a mj?

[D]

Their big thing is the association. That's what their show is. They're doing an all right job. I think they're based in LA where they're doing like a react show to all the games that night or leading into the game, Sort of both. That's fine. I've seen a little. I've seen clips going around. Looks good.

[B]

And they've got some fun personalities. I gotta be honest. Like, you wouldn't see a. David Fizdale has joined that desk to give his opinions on NBA cup courts.

[D]

Give me the data.

[B]

He's funny. He's a funny guy.

[E]

David Fisdale was talking cup courts.

[B]

Yeah, I know that. Yeah, he's good at it. I will say, look, John Wall leaving CJ Toledano. That's unfortunate. CJ Toledono doing his thing with Isaiah Thomas now.

[D]

Oh, damn.

[B]

He made this big announcement like, oh, here it comes. A big show. I thought it was going to be with his wife. I was looking forward to that. But anyways, I'm sure it'll be good with Isaiah Thomas too. That's all I gotta say.

[D]

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All right, back to the beach. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hit the like button. Subscribe podcast listeners. Five star ratings and reviews. We I see the poll here that you got going. TK Respect the cup. Question mark. Yep. Divisions or groups? What are the people saying?

[E]

People are saying groups.

[D]

Groups. Okay. All right.

[E]

I want to remember the central division. I want to remember east Group C. Fair enough.

[D]

Which will be different next season.

[E]

54 for the groups.

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I'm voting divisions on this one. I want to see it. I want to See it in action. All right, our next question here. Now this is a long one, but this is a good one. All right, so stick with me here. This is from Real Deal Neil jumping off Skeet's prediction that Ja Morant will immediately bounce back once he's traded. I see a lot of similarities with how Vince Carter's Toronto tenure played out and I wonder what you think of the comparison. Both had bright early years with the franchise and were very popular among fans for highlight dunks. The franchise star became labeled a malcontent, fairly or not, said shout out to no dunks. So the no dunking of it all and stopped driving to the basket and then got traded for probably multiple Williams' and not much else. Vince Carter famously traded for two guys named Williams, Eric and Aaron.

[B]

Yeah, those are his names.

[D]

Vince immediately bounced back in New Jersey and put up some of the best years there. Still with little playoff success, but I'd argue his reputation took a long time to recover from tanking his way out of Toronto. How do you see Ja Morant's career playing out in terms of his image? Sorry for the long question, but would love more of your thoughts from the OGs who saw it all play out with Vince Carter in Toronto. Great stuff here.

[B]

Yeah, it's fun from Neil.

[D]

I mean I think there is something here. I saw people before we went live in the Stream team making the same comparison, young John Morant to young Vince Carter in Toronto and how all that went down.

[E]

But what do you think?

[B]

It's a good comparison. I think the rises of each guy are different in that Vince was ascending to space. It looked so much higher for Vince. Started Rookie of the Year. Second year was a playoff loss to the Knicks. Then the third year he was going head to head with Allen iverson. They're dropping 50s in the second round, game seven. And then that star exploded. That was his last playoff game with the Toronto Raptors. That's it. And so he won series so it looked like he was being anointed. While John Morant. It's a little bit different. He's actually played in more playoff series with the Memphis Grizzlies than Vince Carter did with the Toronto Raptors. It's strange, but why they didn't work is a little different too. So the off court issues for John Morant, Vince never had those.

[D]

Vince had, unless you count him going to graduation. I say that jokingly, but that was a How dare you. Watch a hot topic back in the day.

[B]

Got on that private playing and he went and he came back and he lost in game seven to the Sixers. Vince had some injuries like Jaw does, but Jaw wants to play more and he's getting into it with Thomas Isolo because of the rotations, because of how short his little runs are on the floor. Thomas Isolo looking beyond the NBA and thinking, we want these short spurts. Three, four minutes. And John Morant says, come on, man, I'm old school. I want to play 8, 9, 10 minutes. And so there's that. That's, you know, it is a little different. I'm just pointing little holes in the real deal Neil comparison. But I get it now. The package that's coming back, that'll be interesting because it wasn't just Aaron Williams and Eric Williams. They traded for Alonzo Mourning who didn't want to come to Toronto.

[D]

Yeah, whoops.

[B]

He said, nah, not coming. And they had to deal Alonzo Mourning. Then he goes Miami, go back to Miami and helps win a championship. So that's cool for him. But yeah, it was the Williams is Aaron and Eric Alonzo and two first round picks. What will the. What will the Grizzlies get? Will they get even three players plus two first round picks?

[D]

I. Doesn't sound like it.

[B]

Doesn't sound like it right now. So it's a similar package. So listen, Real Dillon, yo.

[D]

I think it's cool.

[B]

It's. It's cool. And I, I do say the, the Ascension events and how everybody was trying to think this is the next Michael Jordan because he is a different player than John Moran, obviously is just a little different than Job. But Jaw was considered potentially the next face of this league. So there is that. There is that sort of likeness too. So I hear what you're saying. Real deal Neil and the.

[D]

And the main similarity with the. The two guys being franchise cornerstones, maybe the face of the league, obviously the highlight dunks, all that is how it all went down when it soured. And it was this idea. Yeah. Because we were there. It was like Vince sort of gave up, sort of started pouting, sort of started pointing the finger at everybody else and everyone's like, man, you're the franchise guy. It's like, ah, it's maybe not a good look. You sort of want to be the guy when things are going okay, but as soon as they. You hit a little rough patch, suddenly it's like, oh, I'm. You're. You're. You know, he was always injured and he says he's not going to dunk and all that. Those are sort of similar to how it's going right now with John Morant in the last couple weeks. I would say with Memphis that is the same to me, big time.

[E]

The effort that Jaw is giving is very similar to the effort Vince was giving at the end of his Raptors tenure. And the no dunking thing is just kind of eerily similar in the way it went down. I don't know if you guys saw Rockets Grizzlies last night, but Ja was not going in the lane. Part of that is because the Rockets are a huge team for sure. They're a good defense, they take away the rim. But he's not playing like himself. And part of it does seem to be the rotations that Isolo is going with. That's not an NBA rotation. I kind of understand where jaws coming there. I heard Tim Bontemps also comp this situation to Derek Rose's the end of his career in Chicago. A little different as well. Just the same as it's a little bit different with Vince. But the thing that I think is similar is as Derrick Rose's prominence with the Bulls started to tail off, Jimmy Butler's was ascending. The team reoriented around Butler and around Noah. And I think that's what happened in Memphis is Jaren Jackson Jr. Is the guy. He plays through everything. I don't think he's been like the greatest soldier during this time for Memphis, but maybe it's just wearing on him having to deal with the drama all the time. The Bulls decided we're not signing Derrick Rose after 2016. Should have. They built around Jimmy Butler. Obviously they should have, but they didn't.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

The. The Grizzlies are going to build around Jaren Jackson Jr. I think it's going to be over in Memphis because Ja doesn't look like he wants to repair the relationship right now.

[B]

No, no. Agreed. Yeah. And Jerry Jackson Jr. Signed there for a long term deal and I just wonder how long they allow it to wear on him because they do like him and he has fought through everything and so that's understandable why they would like him.

[D]

Hopefully they get a better package back then. Yeah, two guys named Williams and Alonzo Mourning who didn't come. Yes, there was draft picks, but that.

[B]

Was a different time.

[D]

That is such a garbage trait. And then Vince balled out.

[E]

Yeah, he was great for the.

[D]

He was good immediately.

[B]

Oh, in the eyes of the Raptors. He came back and hit game winners. I was there. Yeah, he wanted to do it. That being said, that's why John Morant.

[D]

Wherever he ends up Being traded. I'm very confident we'll bounce back too. As I said, that's how we got to this question.

[B]

Yeah, that's true. I will say I don't think there's any. I don't think there's going to be anyone that says not going to Memphis on the other side of the deal. I think it's a different time where it's. There were players who didn't want to play in Toronto. There's a few of them that said, nah, not going there. So that'll. That's different. And unfortunately the two first round picks didn't turn out to be who they were supposed to be. Maybe if one of those first round picks hits, then you say it's something totally different. But it was Joey Graham.

[D]

I was going to say I thought it was Joey Graham. Yeah, like 14th or 15th or something.

[E]

Joey Graham and I just saw Ronaldo Bachmann was the other guy. Yeah, I guess they probably. That must have been a traded pick, right? Because he was a Knick.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, they dealt that.

[E]

So does this mean though that the Thunder are going to trade for John Moran? I think they're the only team that has multiple Williams.

[D]

Oh, right, yeah, yeah. I mean they can take those. They would take Grizzly.

[E]

They can trade. They can trade two Williams and keep their good Williams.

[D]

Yeah, it's amazing. Jesus. Kenrich and Jalen Williams.

[E]

Yep.

[D]

Wow. Couple picks.

[E]

They've got picks left over. Oh, oh man, that's actually.

[D]

Don't give Trusty any ideas, man.

[B]

Oh, that would be. That would be amazing. And you could see the Grizzlies screwing up. Oh, we're getting Jalen Williams. That guy was awesome.

[D]

Last year.

[B]

And they get dealt.

[D]

The other day they didn't check the spelling. You didn't check the spelling, Kleinman.

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Our next one here. Hey, no Duncaroos. With the season Josh Giddy is having so far, it's getting me excited about international basketball. As an Aussie, I'm super keen already for the Olympics in Brisbane in 2032. My question is, wow, who are your favorite young Australian players in the NBA? And who do you think has the most potential? Also, I can only assume that you'll be making the trip down under in 32 to watch the the Boomers win gold. I need your autographs on my new era T shirt. That's from Simon. Thank you, Simon. Looking forward to 20.

[D]

I thought I was a fan of the Olympics. This guy's looking forward to 2032.

[B]

Well, it's Jesus. I guess it's in his home.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, that'd be amazing. Go, whatever you do. I mean, it sounds like Simon's going go. You go to those Olympics, you're going to have the time of your life. Biggest regret I ever had. I was in Australia for the last Olympics there, mate. 2000. I didn't go to anything. I was dead broke and I wasn't in Sydney was where they were too. But anyway, I did want to play a little trivia question with you guys. I don't know how much research you did. Can you name the seven Australians that have played in An NBA game this season. There are seven guys at least, going into last night's action. I did this before the games last night.

[B]

I did some research, for sure.

[D]

Okay, same. Okay, well, let's do it.

[E]

And we prep for the show. What can we say? Obviously, I bet we can name it 5. I don't know if I can get deep.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[E]

Giddy Daniels.

[D]

Yep.

[E]

Furfy.

[D]

Yeah, baby. He's got a bum ankle now, but he played three games. Yep.

[B]

Here's a deeper one.

[E]

Jock Lander.

[D]

Hell, yeah.

[E]

He's actually been playing pretty well.

[D]

He's averaging like 11 and 5 for the shooting.

[E]

The 3.

[B]

Too bad he won't be around in 20, 30.

[E]

Yeah, he went from like. He went from like the Aussie mullet to now he's got Luke Shencher hair.

[D]

Yep.

[E]

Surprising to me, but it's working.

[D]

So now you got three more difficult Aussie names.

[B]

The proctor. Tyrese Proctor.

[D]

That's the tough one, man. That's a very tough one. He also. Yeah, he played. He plays for the Cavs. He's appeared. He's actually played, too.

[B]

Yeah, I've watched him. Yeah. Is it Christmas time? Do you put up your doo up Wreath? No. I mean, no, the sea is Sudanese. But he also. I think he's gonna play for us. He's gonna play for Australia.

[D]

Right.

[E]

Okay, so Luke Travers.

[D]

There you go.

[B]

Nice.

[D]

Luke Travers in his mustache.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Now he's got some garbage time. I don't think he's had a shot yet. Maybe he scored last. Okay.

[B]

But. Yeah, well, Trey said this guy's name yesterday as a two way guy. Great name. Oh, who? Rocco Zakarski.

[D]

I don't think he's played, has he?

[B]

Oh, maybe he's not playing.

[E]

Okay, that's. Yeah, that is a good yellow.

[D]

Yeah. One guy left, and it's actually a pretty obvious name. He played four minutes, or at least going into last. Last night.

[E]

Pretty obviously.

[B]

Josh Green.

[D]

No, not Josh Green.

[E]

He is Ozzy.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, he's Aussie.

[E]

Has he not played?

[B]

Okay, he's hurt.

[D]

No, he's a. He's probably the most. Honestly, he's the most likable Aussie left on the board here.

[E]

Joe Ingles.

[D]

Joe Ingles. He's played like four minutes. Yeah, four or five minutes.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

I forgot about Joe.

[E]

Is he gonna be Scola, like, play it.

[D]

I mean, that'll be old.

[C]

Old.

[E]

Yeah. How old is he now?

[D]

I mean, he's probably younger than I think, but I'll look it up. Joe Ingles.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

But still, this is insane.

[D]

Question oh, no. Joe Ingles is 38. 38.

[E]

He'll be 45.

[D]

No way.

[B]

He'll be.

[D]

He'll be on the staff. Let him play. No, he'll be on the staff.

[E]

Come on, the Olympics in Australia. Yeah, they gotta let him suit up, Paddy.

[B]

No, come on.

[D]

He's not even in the league anymore.

[E]

These guys are legends.

[B]

Ben Simmons will play.

[D]

Oh, he probably won't.

[B]

He won't.

[D]

Patty's younger. He's 37. So.

[E]

Hey, I would. I wouldn't shy away from letting Patty take a big shot in a knockout game.

[D]

Oh, hell no know. Hell no.

[E]

Dash Daniels.

[B]

Dash.

[D]

There we go.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

The other 24, actually a young guy because even the young guys in Australians right now, Gideon Daniels, they're going to be 30 when this happens. There's a full on Olympics before this takes place.

[D]

They'll be in their prime though, for this. That's right. Do you have a fa. Like a favorite young Australian player? I guess.

[E]

I mean, Josh G. Of course.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Always been a big fan.

[B]

Yeah. Dyson Daniels is different than what he was when he played for Australia in the 24 Olympics. He looks like a guy who can handle a little bit more than he did in 24. Secondary playmaker. Because Josh got to give it up at some time. I know Josh wants to have the ball in his hands, but in that particular Olympics, Dyson didn't look like he was ready to do that, but now he does. He's always got his head up. He knows how to use the. The gather really well. So he puts it right there and it's spinning on that hand and he knows where to pass. So he. I would say his growth is great. And Proctor's good. I will say I think, I think he can contribute.

[D]

He definitely got an opportunity with all the injuries to the Cavs early on and he played a lot and he was okay. You're right. And good, good catch there on do Upriath. I mean, I did forget he was playing for Australia.

[B]

He just played this year watching Portland yesterday because they've sent young Hansen down to the G League to practice and get better. Duopris got a ton of minutes and splashed four threes from the corner. So much so, so many threes that you saw that Tom Haberstrough, I don't know if you've seen on the Portland broadcast, they do a little he'll pop in pop thing and he's doing the threes. Just the face pops in like, you know, like, like in the NBC how they pop into three. Okay. You See Tom Haverstraw, and he's got different ones, too. He's got a. Wow, that was a good one. So that's fun. But I thought Do Upright would be way younger than Jock Landale and be the next center for this team, but they're almost the same age.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

29 and 30. So they're gonna have to find other ones, like Rocco Zakarski, I guess.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

Suit him up.

[D]

That's a great name, man. Every time you guys say that, just sounds like a hockey player.

[B]

He's 19. Yeah.

[E]

He'll be playing.

[B]

He'll be playing.

[D]

Yeah. Good stuff. Always great to talk about the Aussies. Final one here. Somebody just wrote in. This is Nate. Whatever happened to replacing the Clipper Bros with the Magic Bros? Wow, Nate, you got a good memory. We did say this sort of around the start of the season, huh? No, I was gonna say maybe even preseason. We said, oh, there's a new. There's a new Clipper Bro. It's the Magic Man. But then we never showed it to you. Well, we got it. It's from the Sixth man show.

[B]

That's right.

[D]

The podcast and the show that they do on YouTube. And we have the full clip, so we're gonna show you in its entirety what. Who we are calling the new Clipper Bro. Possibly. But the Magic Man.

[E]

All right, I got Travis here. Travis, another big win tonight.

[A]

We're 4.

[B]

0 in the preseason.

[E]

What are your thoughts on just how the team looks overall right now?

[D]

You know, we got Franz Wagner, who is him?

[E]

At the end of.

[D]

At the end of the day, Bonchero.

[E]

Boncharo.

[D]

That's my guy.

[E]

At the end of the day, like.

[D]

Like, he's gonna make it.

[E]

I bet $10 to win 1835 tonight.

[D]

And I won.

[E]

So I just won $8 and 35.

[D]

Cents of, like, taco Bell, not an ad.

[E]

So I'm him and love the Magic.

[D]

Shout out.

[E]

My guy, Josh. My home me.

[D]

He brought me out here.

[E]

I was like, okay, let's go. Let's run it.

[D]

Yeah. It was like third quarter.

[E]

I bet $10.

[D]

Imagine the feeling of winning $8.35.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And you'll realize it.

[D]

God bless America.

[E]

Trust the ESPN projections. We're winning.

[D]

Right? And let's go, Magic. Go, Jesus. Amen. Okay, so maybe a new Clipper Bro, because there's some gold in there.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

From the Magic Man.

[B]

Well, it's the Taco Bell part. It's the bet. Slash, Taco Bell. He basically says, all right, I'm done with your question about the basketball part. Franz Bonchero. Bonchero. And let's get to the good stuff because I want $8.35.

[E]

Imagine being able to win $8.35. Franz Wagner and Paolo Bunny Charo. So good.

[B]

Yeah, that's the six man show.

[D]

Okay, that was funny.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[D]

I forgot who's tipped us off to that clip. Somebody did DM us on Instagram and was like, you gotta take a look at this. We might have a new Clipper Bro in our hand because there's. There's some similarities. Right?

[E]

Yes.

[D]

That infectious sort of energy, the way they sort of talk too. There's the cadence almost.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it's very. So he won 8.35 sense and he's so excited about that. My question is how much he spent on the alcohol that.

[D]

Oh yeah. Both him and Clipper bro are toasty for sure.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to the six man show for sending us that.

[D]

Oh, that's so good.

[B]

The good stuff there from Jonathan and Kevin who, who host. Because when, when the guy says my man Josh, I thought he was pointing at the hoe.

[D]

Who is he pointing at?

[B]

The guy who came over at the end.

[E]

Oh, the guy who was hiding the whole time.

[D]

Yeah. That was you. I thought at the first he was talking about the host, but he's pointing right by him.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

He's like, that's the man Josh. You got me here, got me on the bet. And then the guy comes in, talks.

[D]

About the ESPN projections, Magic winning the. The championship. Projections. Yeah.

[B]

There's the him.

[D]

That's a great line. And we cut it up. Like took the best of the best parts of that and cut it together. There'd be really something there. The problem is it doesn't have the turn up. Love you guys. Awesome. You know, there's not a, A great ending.

[E]

That one feels a little more topical.

[D]

There's no sign.

[B]

Yeah, that's what we're looking for. But maybe we use it for like a pick them or something.

[D]

You know, it's great for any. Yeah. Bet related thing where you just win a little bit of money or you get a correct pick. The $8 and 35 cents. Can you imagine?

[E]

I bet $10.

[C]

It's good.

[D]

We like it. We like it.

[B]

I forget the couple that are our fans, they sent it, that's who.

[D]

Oh, okay, good. I know I'm drawing a blank, so apologies. But keep sending gold like that our way, however you want to. On X, Twitter, in the Instagram, dms, in the YouTube comments substack. Wherever. Email us. No dunksmail.com, no dunks income. Correct.

[E]

Correct.

[D]

My bad. Nodunksincmail.com I got a bonus question here. This one's really for you, JD from SCMods on substack. Do you guys see the show more as a podcast that's broadcast on YouTube for funsies or a YouTube TV show that you also send out as a podcast?

[B]

Wow, that's great question.

[D]

That's a great question.

[B]

It's a multi platform show. I guess I'd say it's both. It's both. Okay.

[E]

I mean, if we were strictly a.

[B]

YouTube show, we wouldn't have these mics in front of our faces. We'd be lavved up. You know what I mean?

[D]

Oh.

[B]

It would look more like a TV show.

[D]

So we're just like right on the edge.

[B]

We're both. But podcasting is a TV show. Exactly. The lines are blurred. And we did that. That's our fault.

[D]

We did. Sorry.

[B]

We're him. That's right. That's right. Except we're the only ones that go live because we're the only ones to do it.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Even when things go wrong. Just makes us.

[E]

Things.

[B]

Things are gonna go wrong, guys.

[E]

It's a daily live show.

[B]

We're gonna say things are gonna.

[E]

That's how.

[D]

That's in fact, you. I heard that you only purposely make things go wrong so people actually know it's a live show.

[E]

That's right.

[B]

Otherwise we've been accused of recording the show.

[D]

Right.

[B]

I mean, sorry.

[D]

It's live right now. It's 11:17am newspaper to show you it's.

[B]

Also good publicity when you screw up. It's gonna make some headlines.

[D]

Sure. What are we gonna make? Awful announcing for our poor start today?

[E]

Variety.

[B]

JD did it on purpose.

[D]

Oh.

[B]

Just to mess us up. Just so we can throw it out there. And then people will share it. People will see it, People will clip it. Wow. These guys suck. Yeah. Then they'll watch.

[D]

Oh, it's good to be back on the beach. Keep your questions coming all week long. You don't have to wait until we ask you. But I'm gonna say the best way to get your questions or comments to the top of the queue is to join the substack. You know, preferential treatment.

[E]

That's right.

[D]

To the substack peeps.

[E]

100%.

[D]

What do we call our substack people? The pack.

[E]

I thought you said Stack Pack. Once upon a time. I thought that was really nice.

[B]

Thank you.

[D]

Stack Pack it is. For now, until we come up with something better. Okay, let's get to tonight's pick em game tasks, my man. You're on a slide right now.

[B]

I'm on a slide.

[D]

That's a, that's a tough one.

[B]

Well, it was being covered by the Los Angeles Lakers. Then in comes Stefan Castle's near airball. He shot it so short. That just landed in front of the hoop. So Kelly Olenek just grabs it and puts it in covered. There was no need for that.

[D]

I mean, it just. When you, when you can't get one right, it's like things like that happen, you know.

[B]

It was a perfect miss for Stefan Castle tonight. Wasn't hard to pick the game because there's only one.

[D]

Yeah. What up with that? Why were there a million games last night? One game on tonight.

[E]

I just don't, I don't get that.

[B]

The NBA's giving up on Thursdays. Well, that's, that's fine. They, they said the TNT thing, that's gone NFL. Take it. Take Thursdays. That's what I went immediately. I checked the game on the NFL. They do have one. Yeah.

[E]

No, I thought it was gonna be like Cowboys, Eagles, teams with massive fan bases. Broncos, Raiders. Give us an east coast game.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Tonight all we want are like two or three games max. That's all we're looking for.

[B]

Yeah, tonight, tonight we're going to Arizona. No, east coasting. Phoenix is hosting the clippers. They're a 2 1/2 point favorite. Clippers have lost two in a row, so I think that's part of the reason. Skeets, you picked it Myself too. I'm, I'm, I'm there.

[D]

I. Yes, a little bit now. I don't think Kawhi Leonard is playing. No, I don't think James Harden is playing.

[B]

Sucks.

[D]

Maybe you think that. Yeah, I know, but I, I actually, I was gonna go with Phoenix. I was gonna go with Trey and I was like, nah, you know what? Get those superstars out of here. Let the guy slide up. Fight hard tonight against the Sun's team, who is decent, but you know, they're missing guys too, so I'm going with you, Tas. I'm backing you Tonight. I'm going Clips.

[B]

Oh, you screwed up.

[D]

Don't worry. Yeah. What's gonna happen here? Phoenix will win by six, three points. Exactly.

[B]

Yeah. The problem is, the problem is it's, it's the oldies that are subbing in. I guess it's Chris Paul, but he hasn't been playing well to start this season.

[D]

That's true.

[B]

Who's subbing? Bradley Beal ain't playing who's who's garbage out as well, I'm assuming because he has been.

[D]

Probably a double revenge game though.

[E]

Beal and Chris Paul.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Against the sun in Phoenix. Yeah, it could happen in the mortgage matchup center. Just fun to say.

[D]

So. Yeah, Trey has Phoenix got to win by three or more. They are. They are the favorites tonight with that Clippers team coming in banged up here. So we got the clips. All right, that's it for today's show. Couple other shows coming up today though if you're a Survivor fan, jump over at 12pm Eastern to the no Buffs YouTube page and we are going to be recapping episode seven. Stuff actually happened last night on Survivor. Yeah, we got a slow start to the season but it's going to ramp up now. Perfect time to get in if you ask me. So come join myself, Trey and JD for no Buffs recapping episode seven of Survivor. And then later today back here on no dunks at 2:30pm Eastern. Those sexy faces looking like Dante DiVincenzo. The noses we got going there, the top shot hot boys are back ripping packs and and cases maybe and boxes. They got a bunch of stuff now so it's been a while. So they hot boys will be here on the no dunks feed at 2:30.

[E]

It's like taco Bell. They can package these moments in any sort of shape.

[D]

I can't wait.

[E]

Hope I get a Noah Asenge. Oh, wait a second. He doesn't have a moment yet.

[D]

No, he doesn't.

[E]

No, no, no.

[D]

You check.

[E]

Hasn't played. Literally hasn't played.

[D]

Oh, right, right, right. That's a problem.

[E]

I guess that's what happens when you're 18 years old.

[D]

Tough to get in. Yeah, unless you're Cooper Flag.

[B]

You're not old, you're young. Hanson. He doesn't have any. He doesn't have any moments either, I imagine. I mean he's played.

[E]

He's played. At least he's got a basket.

[D]

It may have minted one. We'll have to check. We'll find out today on the top Shot Hot boys. That's at 2:30pm Eastern. But no buffs. Coming up in about 40 minutes. In fact, 39 minutes because this is live. Everybody hit the like button. Subscribe and we'll see you guys tomorrow morning for the drop podcast at 10am Eastern. Until then, gotta stick with the classic Clipper Bros. You heard it here first.

[E]

Have a great time turn up.

[D]

Love you guys.

[E]

Awesome.

[B]

Thanks for joining us. And remember, we'll see you tomorrow. The ones who aren't surviving or top shotting where we'll be doing worse of the week. So get in your suggestions for that.

[D]

Nominees.

[B]

Whoever it is.

[D]

Whoever it is, you got a batch cooking right now.

[B]

They're cooking. It's a slow burn. Like it's a crock pot.

[D]

Crock pot of worst of the week nomination.

[B]

Crock pot. Yeah, it's a slow, slow meat cook. You know, like a 12 hour roast BBQ. Maybe 24. 24 because we go live.

[E]

Yeah, put it in now.

[B]

23.

[D]

Yeah, 23. 22 and a half. We go live.

[E]

We'll see you then.

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Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first, there the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.