Grading The Trae Young Trade, Multiple Buzzer-Beaters & Avdija And Ones

Summary

No Dunks — “Grading The Trae Young Trade, Multiple Buzzer-Beaters & Avdija And Ones”

Date: January 8, 2026
Hosts: JD Skeets, Tas Melas, Trey Kirby (TK), JD

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Episode Overview

This episode centers around the seismic Trae Young trade—analyzing its impact, grading the deal from both the Hawks’ and Wizards’ perspectives, and placing it in context with the shifting NBA landscape. The crew then dives into a jam-packed NBA night: buzzer-beaters, wild finishes, standout individual performances, and classic “No Dunks” wedgie highlights. The show stays true to the hosts’ banter-heavy, informed style—blending sharp analysis, irreverent humor, and plenty of basketball nerdery.

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Main Theme: Grading the Trae Young Trade

Trade Details

Atlanta Hawks send:

• Trae Young (to Wizards)

Washington Wizards send:

• CJ McCollum
• Corey Kispert

No draft picks exchanged.

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Grading & Analysis of the Trade

Wizards' Perspective

• Tas Melas: “It’s an A- for them... I’m excited to see Trae Young be the lead guy for a team... It’s going to put some butts in the seat in Washington where they don’t have a lot of seats sold.” (04:21)
• Wizards buy low on a 27-year-old, hoping he’s entering his prime and can galvanize both the locker room and the fanbase.
• Young Wizards will benefit from Trae’s playmaking, especially screeners like Alex Sarr, who "will definitely help Trey Young. The Wizards young guys are going to be getting the easiest shots of their career." (06:26)
• There’s a strong focus on future flexibility: Trae’s contract is expiring soon, so it’s a “trial run,” giving Washington a chance to evaluate him physically and as a leader before considering a big extension.
• Cautious about over-committing (given past massive contracts to guards like Arenas, Wall, Beal).

Hawks' Perspective

• Tas Melas: “C+ for the Hawks... you’d think they’d be able to get more for Trae Young entering his prime. Simple as that, really. I know people are saying it’s a money dump—and that is entirely true. It’s a vibes dump.” (04:21)
• Clear sense of underwhelmed response—Hawks are moving on from the Trae era, mostly to reset culture, finances, and direction.
• The return is underwhelming: CJ McCollum (expiring) and Kispert (serviceable but not special); “Could you not have gotten more a couple months from now in the off-season? It just feels like they’re not getting much at all.” (04:49)
• Decision seemed rushed, happening during an actual Hawks game, which the crew found odd.

Trade’s NBA Context

• The value of “non-superstar max” guards has plummeted: “Not long ago Jrue Holiday traded for multiple picks, multiple swaps. Donovan Mitchell traded for multiple picks, multiple swaps. And Lowry Markkanen, who turned into an All-Star... And then you’re here with Trae Young... you don’t get a single pick. It’s wild.” – JD Skeets (18:16)
• Rising concern about overcommitting cap space: buying low is fun, but what if the Wizards do give Young another huge deal?

Notable Quotes

• JD Skeets: “This trade is like the Facebook Marketplace of trades... Trae Young is basically like a lightly used set of golf clubs... You got into it back in Covid and you... put it up on Facebook Marketplace. You’re thinking, okay, this did cost us a lot of money. Like, hopefully you get $500 for this, you’re getting nothing... You don’t want to look at this thing anymore... 50 bucks, come and get it!” (14:15)
• TK: “This is a vibes dump.” (04:48)
• Tas Melas: “It’s not that long ago those trades happened. The game has changed. Changed pretty quick.” (19:25)

Key Segments and Timestamps

• Trade grades and rationale: 04:21—09:36
• Wizards' cap flexibility, logic for trading CJ, tanking/not tanking talk: 07:36—09:36
• Concerns over future contract/overpay: 09:36—14:04
• Facebook Marketplace analogy: 14:08—15:56
• Live reactions to odd timing of trade/news moments: 15:56—17:20

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Big Picture Reflections

• End of the Trae Young era in Atlanta is “the first time I’ve had to tell my kids their favorite player got traded” – TK (17:02). “End of an era for sure.”
• Deep-dive into how little the Hawks got: “Even the Bulls got a pick back for Zach LaVine last year,” and now, with Trae, “you don’t get a single pick.” (19:29)
• Wild stat: with Trae traded, only Jaren Jackson Jr. and Miles Bridges (from the 2018 first round) remain with their original teams (20:23).

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Around the NBA: Buzzer-Beaters, Wild Finishes, Standouts

Buzzer-Beaters & Crazy Finishes

Magic vs. Nets – Double Banked Threes Finish (38:15)

• Draft Pick #2 (TK): Nets come back from an 18-point deficit, wild last seconds—both teams hit clutch banked-in threes.
• Jaeger Joman (Nets) ties the game with a banked three (1:30 left in OT), then Paolo Banchero (Magic) wins it with a banked three at the buzzer.
• TK: “Double bank, clutch three pointers. That was hilarious. I’ve never seen something like that before.” (39:59)
• Both shots were accidental banks and nearly straight on—a first for the hosts.

Blazers vs. Rockets – Denny Avdija’s Career Night (41:57)

• JD Skeets: Denny Avdija drops 41 as Blazers survive wild ending. Houston’s would-be game-winning tip-in waived off after review.
• Deep dive into Avdija’s league-leading 42 successful and-ones this season (45:09).
• TK: “He’s got the James Harden arm rip... throws his arms out into everybody.” (45:04)
• Blazers’ young center Donovan Clingan praised for “screen assists” and “bone-crunching picks.”

Celtics vs. Nuggets – Statement Win Minus Jokic (31:31)

• Draft Pick #1 (Tas): Denver wins in Boston despite being shorthanded (no Jokic on a 7th game of a road trip).
• Peyton Watson goes off for 30; Jamal Murray racks up 17 assists.
• JD Skeets: “I think Jamal Murray has absolutely locked up an all-star selection for the first time in his career at this point.” (36:07)
• Tas highlights Denver’s “deep” team vibe, and how Jokic must be “super pumped” watching from the bench.

Raptors vs. Hornets – Quickley’s Walk-Off (61:21)

• JD Skeets: “Emmanuel Quickley with the three right as the horn goes in. Charlotte Raptors get past the Hornets.” (61:21)
• RJ Barrett led the Toronto comeback: “He just took over. He’s like, no, we’re not losing to the Hornets again.” (63:09)
• Humorous observations on ugly shooting stretches—“19 consecutive missed threes by the Raptors”—and Eric Collins’ broadcasting energy.

Warriors vs. Bucks – Measuring Depth on Both Sides (54:10)

• Warriors edge Bucks at home. Steph scores 31, D’Anthony Melton and Al Horford shine off the bench.
• Draymond Green’s composure and recent form discussed; comical anecdote about Draymond’s fear of his mom: “She told me the other day we need to have a heart to heart. I’ve been avoiding her ever since. I am afraid of my mom. I’m still afraid of my mom.” – Draymond, quoted by Tas (58:24)
• Both teams’ rotation depth and aging roster strategies examined.

Knicks vs. Clippers – KAT Breaks Slump (59:52)

• TK: “If you’re not going to involve me, I’m getting involved myself. 20 points, 11 rebounds, 7 assists, 4 offensive rebounds [for Karl-Anthony Towns].” (59:52)
• Deuce McBride’s insertion into the starting lineup “paid off,” contributing space and pacing that unlocked KAT.

Wedgies & Broadcasting Fun (28:26)

• Celebrates NBA’s 30th and 31st wedgies of the year, with special attention to broadcasters’ reactions and in-jokes.
• JD Skeets: “The Bulls broadcast came through with some wedgie love... Adam Amin having some light-hearted fun or a little jab at us because he had said the one time furring A wedgie? No Dunks Incorporated. And we corrected him. We're actually an LLC. That was literally an inside joke for like, us. Which is very funny.” (29:31)

SGA’s Wild Night for OKC (Game high 46 points)

• Not part of the main draft, but the hosts make sure to highlight Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s 46-point, 6-rebound, 6-assist, 0-turnover effort in the Thunder’s OT win over the Jazz (68:13).

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Notable Quotes & Banter

• JD Skeets (re: Trae Young's market drop): “This trade is like Facebook Marketplace.” (14:08)
• TK: “This is a vibes dump.” (04:48)
• JD Skeets: “It’s crazy... Jrue Holiday, multiple picks... Then you’re here with Trae Young and you don’t get a single pick.” (18:16)
• Tas Melas (wry): “The game has changed. Changed pretty quick.” (19:25)
• Draymond Green via Tas: “I am afraid of my mom. I’m still afraid of my mom is what he said. Very funny to hear Draymond Green say that.” (58:24)
• Wedgie Recap: “Land of the Lilliputians.” “Fruit of the Loom, call us up.” Frequent banter around in-game catchphrases (28:26–30:00).

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Other Memorable Moments

• Family Impact: TK shares, “This is the first time I’ve had to tell my kids that their favorite player got traded.” (17:02)
• NBA Draft Longevity Stat: Only two first-rounders from 2018 remain with their original team after the Trae trade (20:23).
• Playful Raptors-Hornets Analysis: Extended laughter over broadcast banter, “I watched every single one of those 19 consecutive missed three point shots by the Toronto Raptors.” (64:30)
• Podcast Inside Joke: The “Facebook Marketplace” analogy, and ongoing jokes about being an LLC instead of incorporated.

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Trae Young trade grades & analysis: 04:21–21:34
• NBA trade market context: 18:16–19:29
• Wedgie broadcast segment: 28:26–31:11
• Best games “draft” begins: 31:31 (continues through ~66:44)
• Buzzers/beaters/memorable game recaps: Sprinkled from 31:31–69:46 (see individual games above for first mentions)
• SGA / Whoa Boy segment: 68:13–70:08

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Summary Table: Key Points At-a-Glance

| Time | Segment | Key Discussion / Quote | |-----------|------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 04:21 | Hawks & Wizards grade trade | “A- for Wizards, C+ Hawks. Vibes dump.” – Tas | | 09:36 | Future for Trae/Wizards | “TBD on what they give Trae Young...wait to grade it.” – JD | | 14:08 | FB Marketplace analogy | “Trey Young is like a lightly used set of golf clubs.” – Skeets | | 18:16 | No picks for Trae | “Not that long ago...Mitchell...picks...Here, nothing. Wild.” | | 28:26 | Wedgie recap | “That was literally an inside joke for, like, us. Very funny.” | | 31:31 | Nuggets slap Celtics draft | “The locker room vibes just incredible.” – Tas | | 39:59 | Magic/Nets double banks | “Double bank, clutch three pointers. Never seen that before!” – TK| | 45:09 | Avdija "and-ones" spotlight | “He actually leads the league in successful and-ones.” – JD | | 61:21 | Raptors walk-off | “Quickley’s three right as the horn goes in...stupid game.” – JD | | 68:13 | SGA’s monster game | “SGA...46 points... did not commit a turnover...pretty impressive”|

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Conclusion and Wrap

This episode captures the essence of current NBA volatility—stars on the move, shifting team-building philosophies, wild on-court finishes, and the value of both stats and vibes. Hosts dissect the Trae Young deal with nuance and humor, then shift seamlessly into game recaps, pop culture, and podcast in-jokes—offering listeners insight, knowledge, and laughs, whether they watched every game or missed the whole night.

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For Further Listening:
Listeners are encouraged to check out the emergency episode dedicated solely to the Trae Young trade for more in-depth reaction (incident referenced: 03:07, and link in show notes).

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[JD Skeets]

Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Dodunks podcast, presented by FanDuel. It's the Thursday, January 8, 2026 I'm JD Skeets here in the classic factory. And alongside me, as always, Tas Melas basketball friends.

[Tas Melas]

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[JD Skeets]

Next to him, it's my top show. Hot boy Trey. Kirby Ayo, Ayo. And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer JD Hello. There he is. Here we are, back at it again. No Michael Scotto today. Unfortunately, he had to reschedule after breaking news last night. He's working the phones like a Wichita lineman. Glen Campbell. We'll hope to talk to the hoops hype NBA insider next week. TK Got that reference. Hopefully have him on next week.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

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[JD Skeets]

On today's show, though, we're going to draft some of last night's best games because holy hell, we had some crazy buzzer beaters and some entertaining finishes. We got. Whoa, boy. And we have a few fantastic wedgies to show you that we gotta go sound on tape with because the broadcasts, both the national broadcasts and then the Bulls broadcast came through with some wedgie love. We'll get to that a little bit later because news broke relatively late last night on Wednesday night that Atlanta Hawks had sent Trae Young to the Washington Wizards for C.J. mcCollum and Corey Kispert. No draft picks were exchanged. One player for two players. And as I'm sure some of you know, maybe I've already consumed the boys. And I stocked up on energy last night and ripped off a good old emergency podcast. So check that out if you haven't already. The link is in the show notes to the YouTube, but you can also listen on Apple or Spotify. Five star ratings and reviews. So we did the emergency pile. We talked about it last night for about 30 minutes. But I would like to grade this thing now that it's official, you've had a little more time to think about it. I don't know if you want to start with the Hawks or the wizard side of things, but where you want to go.

[Tas Melas]

Well, it's definitely a better grade for the Washington Wizards. I'd say it's an A minus for them and a C plus for the Atlanta Hawks, because the Atlanta Hawks, you'd think they'd be able to get more for Trey Young entering his prime. Simple as that, really. I know people are saying it's a money dump, and that is entirely true. This is really more two things at once. A money dump, but also just the vibes just moving on from Korea change.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Vibes dump.

[Tas Melas]

It is. It's a vibes dump. But they're also taking Back some dollars here. I know we don't think of Corey Kispert's money as a lot, but it is a couple years left plus team options. So you have Corey Kispert. He's getting older. You know, he's almost 27 and so he ain't getting young. He's part of rotation. Maybe CJ McCollum on the older side as well. Really, this is just mo on from Trey Young. Could you not have gotten more a couple months from now in the off season? It just feels like they're not getting much at all. Simple. Simple as that. While the Wizards I'm excited to see Trey Young be the lead guy for a team and I know he ain't winning a championship if he's the lead guy, but he did lead a bunch of good offenses here in Atlanta as the number one guy. Seven full seasons here. He had a top 10 offense. Three of those four seasons. Three of those seven seasons bus at number 12 in there. So for him, he gets to be the guy and it's exciting for him just to do be able to do that and for the Wizards to take a chance on a guy. He's not going to tear down your team chemistry in your team locker room. And if so, if it's not going well, you got a year and a half of contract of Trey Young and you could say goodbye. But I think it's going to put some butts in the seat in Washington where they don't have a lot of seats sold. They're right towards the bottom of attendance and they got a guy who's I believe has moved on from just being the, the me, the the the end all of a basketball team. I think he can get everybody involved. He has taken another step. I think he did help Jill and Johnson as they were sort of a 1, 2 combo here mostly last season. So all good on the wizard side.

[JD Skeets]

What do you think?

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

TK Yeah, I think Tas is about right. I think this is a good risk for the Wizards to buy. Very low on Trey Young. They have to be hoping that he is entering his prime. He's only 27 and a half years old right now, so it feels like he should be burst. Ain't quite the same as when Trae Young came into the league. The shooting ain't quite the same since he came into the league. But he also hasn't really had a great rim runner since Capella was at the peak of his powers. He fell off last season, got replaced by a Kongwu not a rim running screen and roll kind of guy. Porzingis same thing. So getting Alex Sar as his screener will definitely help Trey Young. The Wizards young guys are going to be getting the easiest shots of their career. They've never had a playmaker like this. They're also going to be dribbling the least amount of their career because Trae Young has to have the ball. And when he doesn't have the ball, he's just standing around out there. So I like to see the Wizards making a little bit of a move here to get better. We were checking things on their franchise index on Basketball Reference before the show. They haven't won 40 games since before Trae Young was drafted. They would love to get to the.500 level with Trey Young. And another thing I researched Elvin Hayes, number 11, retired for the Wizards.

[JD Skeets]

Right.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

So we'll see what number Trey ends up wearing for the Wizards and we'll see just how much he'll play. It's still early in the season. It's only January 8th today. It does feel like he'll play a little bit. The Athletic reported that Young will try and rehabilitate himself both physically and reputationally. He's deal or dealt with knee problems, a bruised leg, a sprained ankle this season. So there probably will be a little bit of chilling time for Trey Young to get healthy to maintain the pick for the Wizards. But the Athletic is also report reporting that part of the reason that the that Washington traded C.J. mcCollum is because he was helping him win too many games. Had a couple of 40 point games this season and the Athletic says that Trey Young is going to play a limited number of games over the remainder of this season. I've seen Fred Katz saying that they are obsessed with obsessed with keeping their top eight protected pick this year. Like we talked about last night, they're fifth in odds right now, but very slim margin between fifth and eighth. They basically needed to finish in the bottom four to guarantee that their pick falls no lower than eighth and then they keep it. So this is really a move for the Wizards starting next season. I guess they'll reassess what's going on with Trey during the summer. If it's just going to be a picking up your option if it's going to be extending him or we'll see what it's going to be. But they're taking a little bit of a step forward and I think smart for Washington.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah. Some of the reporting yesterday after the trade went down, they said rival teams expect expect Trae Young to pick up his $49 million player extension or player option. Excuse me. But Young has not made a decision on that front at this point. So he's open to the prospect of discussing an extension, but he's going to assess maybe free agency in the summer as well. You know, it's a lot of people assume he's going to pick up the 49 million, rehabilitate, like his career here, and then maybe get the huge payday. But could be an extension, could test free agency, who knows? Yeah, they don't really know.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. From the Trey Young perspective, is he at that point of his career where he realizes he does kind of have to take a step back financially for a team to be incredible around him, so he takes a pay cut to extend his contract? I know it's not.

[JD Skeets]

I'm rolling my eyes at that because he's literally in his prime here and he's going to expect a payday here. Now. Now that's why, like, you guys are grading it really well, like an A or whatever for the Wizards, and. Makes sense because this is such a buy low, you know, obviously cost, but it is a bit of like, TBD on, like, what do they give Trae Young? What. What is the contract if there is an extension? And I almost, like, want to wait for that. Not, you know, to really grade it, because if it's a whole lot of money, then it's like, wow, the Wizards have been here, done that before. I saw that tweet going around last night. Like, the little ptsd, maybe for some Wizards fans moving forward with Trae Young, because this is a franchise that gave Gilbert Arenas a massive, you know, 100 million plus way back in the day. John Wall, five year, 170 million. Bradley Beal, of course, five year, 250 plus million. So, you know, we're talking about guards that, like, were good, not superstar level guards, but sort of in the same ballpark of trade, I think, and they all got hurt.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

I would find that. I find that hard to believe. To think that Michael Winger, who came from OKC and is of that mindset that you would just dump money into somebody that ain't going to lead you to a championship. I think that's clear. I think they know that. And this is just sort of a trial run to see what Trey Young is. And on the other side, Trey, I think, realizes it from. From his side too, but he is excited to be the number one guy. He is definitely their best player like that. So I think we know that Trey has some limits here in in the current NBA. And can he say, I'm the number one guy and I'm taking this to a championship? No, but I think he's a. He's pretty excited just to be the guy who has the ball in his hands all the time. So, I mean, he was that for.

[JD Skeets]

Seven years here in Atlanta.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Well.

[JD Skeets]

So nothing's changed.

[Tas Melas]

Not this year.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

He's played 10 games.

[JD Skeets]

Not this year because he was injured and. Yeah. Didn't play. Yeah. I mean, but nothing's changed in terms of like he's not going to change his game here. No. No one's saying dominant guard. He's pretty damn impressive in the pick and roll.

[Tas Melas]

But they obviously moved on from him to say we're moving, we're moving on from you. You're no longer our ball dominant guy. But to go into Washington where they don't have another all star around him, they don't have that type of player around him. It's good for him. Even though we know and people know he ain't winning a championship in Washington. So it's just, it's exciting for him. And guards like that at this point, unless you're Steph Curry, there's just a one of one that can do that, that can lead you to a championship like that. This is the best. This is the best situation for him if he's going to continue to play like that.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Yeah. This is a style that's kind of fallen out of vogue in the NBA. A heliocentric style where it's one guy who's creating for everybody. Even the Lakers don't do that. They've got Luka. You know, this was like the James Harden peak was one guy can do everything. That's kind of what Trey based his game around. It worked for a while and then he took a little bit of a step back and it didn't work anymore. So I do think he's going to get paid from the Wizards. They've got so much cap space other than Middleton, who will be gone by the trade deadline. Everybody else on their rookie contract, they can give him $60 million a year and still have almost max cap space. So I'm not saying it's the smartest thing, but that's what's going to happen if they decide to pay him.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. And we're here in a new NBA where guys don't get paid as much in the off season. You just can't go grab guys. You have to do it via trade, via draft. And you can offer a restricted free agent plenty of money and try and outbid other teams, but guys just don't move around as much. So you kind of have to do it this way or via trade. But, yeah, I am interested to see how much a front office like that will be willing to give Trey. Because it ain't close to a max. It's not. I just don't imagine that happening. So that's. That's the look.

[JD Skeets]

If they can convince Trae Young and his agents the Brandon Ingram type of deal. Three year, 120 million. Yeah. Awesome. Like, that's really good. You know, still a lot of money. Of course you're fine. You're set for life, but nowhere near the max. So maybe it's like that. I think Trey is going to expect more than that. Thinks he's better than Brandon Ingram, obviously. Made more all star teams, all that, but we'll see. That's a problem for another day.

[Tas Melas]

Are those agents willing to take less? That's the question.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah, right. He's got, like, three agents. Reporter. He needs 60 million.

[Tas Melas]

One.

[JD Skeets]

Everybody's getting.

[Tas Melas]

There's three names.

[JD Skeets]

Here's a couple of million for you, Drew Mintz. Here's a couple of million for you, other guy. Yeah, we'll see what that. But look, it's an incredible buy low. I'm looking at this trade. This trade is like the Facebook marketplace of trades, is what I'm thinking, because, yeah, like, stick with me here. It's like Trey Young is basically like a lightly used set of golf clubs or like a mountain bike or something. You got into it back in Covid and you were convinced you were gonna, like, really do it, but, you know, you did it a couple times, and then it really wasn't for you, and you went a different direction. You had different hobbies. You got into espressos or something like that. So you put it up on Facebook marketplace. You're thinking, okay, like, this did cost us a lot of money. Like, hopefully you get $500 for this, you're getting nothing. You're getting somebody who's like, I'll give you 50 bucks for it, but I'll come and take it out of your garage. I'll get it out of the way. And, you know, and you're like, well, I'd really like $500 for it. But there's no bites, there's no offers. So you're like, at the end of the day, you're like, I don't want to look at this thing anymore. I don't like it here anymore. 50 bucks. Come and get it? I'll jump.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Well, 50 bucks. Wow, what a discount. But you're totally right. This is a Facebook marketplace kind of deal. Who do you think is doing the pickup, though? Do you think it's the Hawks delivering Trey Young to Washington or Washington coming here, getting it, and driving it back to me?

[JD Skeets]

It's Washington coming and getting it. Okay. And that is the equivalent of McCollum and Kiss Perch.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Nice.

[JD Skeets]

In this hypothetical or this analogy. Weird analogy.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

We'll leave Trey Young on the porch, just come over and grab it.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tas Melas]

Did they have some website Facebook problems yesterday? Like, why did they make this trade at 9:30pm Eastern? That's a. During the game.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

During the game.

[Tas Melas]

During the game.

[JD Skeets]

That was weird.

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[Tas Melas]

Nothing changed. I mean, so C.J. mcCollum and Corey Kispert were told, hey, you're not playing. Trey Young is literally on the bench the entire game in Atlanta. So he gets lots of camera time. He gets lots of goodbyes. The camera literally followed him walk away from the floor for like 20 seconds. I don't know. Was that. Just allow Trey to say goodbye to people during a game? I mean, why not make it maybe earlier in the day?

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

I don't know.

[Tas Melas]

It was just. Just a little odd, that's all. Again, maybe they're. Maybe they got some Facebook problems, some aws.

[JD Skeets]

Did the Fortress know that Trey Young had been traded? I assume they did.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Thank you, Trey Chance.

[JD Skeets]

Ah, there you go. Yeah. Okay. Well, he had a good run.

[Tas Melas]

Like.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Well, he had a fine run.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

He made a conference finals. I think a lot of that is Ben Simmons melting down, but nonetheless made a conference finals. And that's not something that happens in Atlanta all that often. Sad. This morning. This is the first time I've had to tell my kids that their favorite player got training.

[JD Skeets]

Oh, wow.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Isla goes, why? I said it was just time. And she left it at that. Couldn't get into the ins and outs of how, you know, he doesn't finish quite as well at the rim. The drives per game are down a little bit. They want to clear the books going forward, but, yeah, end of an era for sure.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. And as you said, they made that one conference finals. What was their best regular season? How many games did they win in the. The best Trey Young season that he was here?

[JD Skeets]

48.

[Tas Melas]

I don't know, 45. It feels like that because it was. It was a 72 game season. A weird pandemic season. So it was a 41 and 31 season.

[JD Skeets]

That's the best.

[Tas Melas]

That's the best.

[JD Skeets]

Regular season the Hawks had under Trey Young.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, I mean, they had a 43 and 39, you know, close to 500. But 41 and 31 were there 10 games above.500. That was the conference finals year. And that's, you know, similar to what you were just saying about the washing Wizards, Trey, that, you know, that's. They did win 40 a few times under Trey, that's for sure. Yeah.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

I mean, the Wizards would love to win 41 games. There'd be parades in Washington D.C. if they can make it to the play in tournament, which the Hawks did four straight years.

[JD Skeets]

The Trey in tournament as the tray in tournament.

[Odoo Advertiser]

There you go.

[JD Skeets]

It is crazy. I keep going back to this, you know, even with all the. The warts on Trey's game and obviously the defensive liability that he is and the size of him and yeah, maybe he's fallen off with the boost a little bit and that floater's not dropping like it used to. But it's crazy. Like not long ago, not all that long ago, Jrue Holiday traded for multiple picks, multiple swaps. Donovan Mitchell traded for multiple picks, multiple swaps. And Lowry Marketen, who turned into an all Star. And then you're here with Trae Young, who I think ranks 13th in all time scoring and third in all time assist average. He's only 27. He's in his prime. And you don't get a single pick. It's. It gets wild and it just like reflects where we are in this trade market in today's NBA and today's second apron of like a max level player that is not a superstar. You just, you don't want to be giving away draft picks and you don't want to be tied up in all that much money for a guy like that. That's his level. That is an all star player, but not the best of the best. Not your joke, which is an SGA and Giannis's and stuff like that. It's crazy. It's not that long ago those traits.

[Tas Melas]

The game has changed. Changed pretty quick.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Even the Bulls got a pick back for Zach Levine last year.

[JD Skeets]

Final two notes from me, just a little more like around the fringes here. You may have saw this going around last night. Now that Trae Young has been traded, I believe Jaren Jackson Jr. And Miles Bridges are the only players from the first round of the 2018 draft to remain on the team that they started their career with. Everybody else, and this is crazy because it's a good draft. It's a really good draft. Like, this is Luka, this is Trey. Of course, this is sga, Even Brunson in the second round. It's wild. And I think that's right. That's. From what I could tell, it's the only two guys that are actually still on their team that they started their NBA career with. Like, Miles Bridges wasn't even technically drafted by the Hornets. It was the Clippers, I think.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

But, man, it's all. It's true.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah. Yeah. Mitchell Robinson, also from that draft, but he's a second round guy still with the Knicks, though, so that's a little weird. And then my final note, Corey Kispert, he has not played for an above.500 basketball team since November 2022. Not that the Hawks are like, what's the Hawks record right now? I guess they are just over.500. Are they. Are they under?

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

They're under.

[JD Skeets]

They're under.500.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

So they get a win last night, though?

[JD Skeets]

They did, but I went and checked it. I was like, holy crap, that's a long time ago. The Wizards were 11 and 10 in late November 2022. Then they lost 10 straight games in December. And from what I can tell since then, they've never been really above.500. And Corey Kispert's been on that team. So that was the year they finished like 35 wins. Back in, like, 2022. We're talking like, Bradley Beal, Porzingis, Kuzma Young, Denny Avdia, Rui Hachimura. Kispert's there.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

He's just hanging out.

[JD Skeets]

Just hanging out. That's crazy, man. So, yeah, you're right. Like I was thinking, the hawks were just above.500. They're below.500. So he's got a. Corey's got to get above.500 here with the Hawks.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Will it happen this season? No, at.

[Tas Melas]

The Hawks finish 41 and 40.

[JD Skeets]

What are they right now?

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Three.

[Tas Melas]

Three games under 18 and 21.

[JD Skeets]

Jesus. Yes. Yes, because. Are they trading for Anthony Davis, tbd, Ken Borzingis play, and stay out there? I mean, they need some defense to go around some of these other guys. And. And McCollum. This is the best part of this whole thing. McCollum this year has been better than Trae Young this year. Now, big part of that's the injury, but McCollum has been solid. Now, he might be a worse defender even than Trey Young. Kispert's in that mix, too, if we're being honest. But whatever, I guess. I got one more note back to Trey Young maybe playing, maybe not. Do they slow play it because they want to keep the pick. Blah, blah, blah. Can we get in touch with FanDuel and get two lines going? One, how many games does Trey Young play for the Wizards this year? What would we set it at?

[Tas Melas]

Okay.

[JD Skeets]

Would you set it at 20?

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

They played 36 games. 46 remaining.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah. Okay, let's set it at 21 and a half. That's the line. You're taking the over under on games played by Trey Young.

[Tas Melas]

I'm taking over.

[JD Skeets]

I'm going under.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

Okay.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

He's like exactly 21. I'll go under 21 if he plays.

[JD Skeets]

In 20 or more. Like Task thinks. Does Trey Young hit 40 points in a game this season?

[Tas Melas]

Yes.

[JD Skeets]

Okay.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Yeah, I like an over 40 for Trey Young. I mean, could be against the Hawks. I think they play the Hawks twice, like in February. They maybe even have a back to back or something like that. 24th and 12th.

[JD Skeets]

I'm with you guys. I would take one big game or two. I mean, McCollum had 40 point games.

[Tas Melas]

Yes, a couple of them. So why couldn't Trey had a 35er a few weeks ago?

[JD Skeets]

Yeah. That's his high though for the season, isn't it?

[Tas Melas]

That was a high game. That was a 152.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

150.

[Tas Melas]

That's right.

[JD Skeets]

Any other notes on this Wizards Hawks trade again? Last night's emergency podcast, you talked a lot about the Hawks maybe looking forward to an Anthony Davis deal. So we don't need to go into that again, but.

[Tas Melas]

No.

[JD Skeets]

Anything else?

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Just because it just happened, I'm starting to think where the steps, the next steps are for the Atlanta Hawks. Are they just taking back this expiring deal in C.J. mcCollum and the Corey Kispert money that they can't be super pumped about? Just no disrespect to Corey Kisper, but is this another move? Is there another move waiting to happen? That's possible, but yeah, we don't need to go. Get the Anthony Davis talk right here, right now. But the primary piece going to Dallas would be Kristaps Porzingis.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah, that's for his expiring deal.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

They can't use either of these deals.

[Tas Melas]

Exactly. In another deal, it would be Kristaps plus a younger player, most likely Reese Sachet.

[JD Skeets]

Probably.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Or the Double O and Yeka Kongwu. Why not? Yeah.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

They should not trade a future pick for Anthony Davis. Should not do it.

[Tas Melas]

Yep, I hear you.

[JD Skeets]

Let's hear from you guys. How you grading the Trae Young to the Wizards deal? From both sides, from the wizard side, from the Hawks side. Let's hear your thoughts and anything else we're maybe missing.

[Dr. Priyanka Walley]

Hi, I'm Dr. Priyanka Walley.

[Hari Kondabolu]

And I'm Hari Kondabolu.

[Dr. Priyanka Walley]

It's a new year and on the podcast Health Stuff, we're resetting the way we talk about our health, which means.

[Hari Kondabolu]

Being honest about what we know, what we don't know, and how messy it can all be. I like to sleep in late and sleep early. Is there a chronotype for that or am I just depressed?

[Dr. Priyanka Walley]

We talk to experts who share real experiences and insight.

[Tas Melas]

You just really need to find where it is that you can have an impact in your own life and just start doing that.

[Dr. Priyanka Walley]

We break down the topics you want.

[Hari Kondabolu]

To know more about sleep, stress, mental health, and how the world around us affects our overall health.

[Dr. Priyanka Walley]

We talk about all the ways to keep your body and mind inside and out healthy. We human beings, all we want is connection. We just want to connect with each other.

[Hari Kondabolu]

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[Dr. Priyanka Walley]

Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ed Zitron]

I'm Ed Zitron of the Better Offline Podcast and I want you to join me at this year's Consumer Electronics show in Las Vegas, Nevada. Starting January 6th through January 10th, 2026, we're doing 10 radio style podcast episodes about the world's biggest tech conference. And we're going to dig into the latest and weirdest gadgets, gizmos and horrible AI gear that the tech industry is desperate to sell you all while covering the biggest stories in Silicon Valley as the AI bubble threatens to burst. I'll be joined by David Roth, Chloe Radcliffe, Adam Conover, Cory Doctorow, Edongueso junior, Robert Evans, and an incredible cast of the greatest talent in the tech media with over 18 hours of interviews, commentary and bizarre stories all told from the Better Offline pop up studio connected to its own open bar.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Today I did five hours of back to back panels on artificial intelligence. It included a number of great moments, including an entire room full of people laughing about people losing their jobs due to artificial intelligence.

[Ed Zitron]

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[Michelle Williams]

You know we always say New Year, New me, but real change starts on the inside it starts with giving your mind and your spirit the same attention you give your goals. Hey, everybody, it's Michelle Williams, host of Checking in on the Black Effect Podcast Network. And on my podcast we talk mental health, healing, growth and everything you need to step into your next season whole and empowered. New year Real you listen to Checking in with Michelle Williams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dr. Laurie Santos]

Are you desperately hoping for change in 2026 but feeling stuck just spinning your wheels in old routines and bad habits? I'm Dr. Laurie Santos and in a new year series of my show the Happiness Lab, I'm going to look at the science of getting, well, unstuck, unstuck at work, unstuck in your relationships, and even unstuck inside your mind.

[JD Skeets]

I am the absolute worst culprit when it comes to getting into these ruminative loops and just driving myself crazy.

[Dr. Laurie Santos]

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[DJ Hester Prynne]

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[Dr. Laurie Santos]

Oh my gosh, yes.

[DJ Hester Prynne]

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[Dr. Laurie Santos]

So join me to get unstuck in 2026. Listen to the Happiness Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your shows.

[JD Skeets]

Okay, let's get into some wedgies. And again, like I said, these were great calls on both of them. Number 30 and 31. So take it away. 30 points. Only Tatum and Bird have done that as Hauser. No, a shooter of his caliber. With the wedgie by seven, it is Jenkins all the way. And the put back attempt by Holland leads to a wedgie call. The folks at no Dunks Incorporated llc, Small business licensing. There's a wedgie for you, my friends. Oh, out of a mean coming through the ledger, legendary wedgie call on the Bulls broadcast there. So yeah, 30 and 31. I just liked Doris Burks. No, that one coming against the Nuggets. And then that was Ron Holland II in the Bulls Pistons game. And Adam Amin having some light hearted fun or a little jab at us because he had said the one time furring A wedgie? No, Dunks Incorporated. And we corrected him. We're actually an llc, and that's how we got to that. So that was literally an inside joke for, like, us. Which is very funny.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Yes, thank you very much.

[JD Skeets]

And then right after that, you know, Stacy King once again said, fruit of the Loom. Get in touch. He says it every time after every wedgie.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Hey, he. Stacy King is a catchphrase machine.

[JD Skeets]

Oh, yeah.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

He says the same thing to whatever happened. If it's Vuch scoring in the post, easy, simple game. Land of the Lilliputians. If it's a wedgie, Fruit of the Loom, call us up.

[Tas Melas]

Land of the Lilliputians.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Yeah, it's a Gulliver's Travel. Oh, reference. What else have you got? IO dose, Trace, IO Silver. Give me the hot sauce. There's five. Whoevers out there.

[Tas Melas]

Giddy up.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Drive home safely, Chicago.

[JD Skeets]

Beep, beep. I love that one.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

The Bulls game. Now I can watch it on mute and I feel like I could do the entire transcript perfectly.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, but. But he. He's. Those are so prevalent that other broadcasters are starting to do it. You heard the. I'm coming. I'm coming from other broadcasters. That. We'll get to that. Stacy drops. It's. That's got to be a copy of Stacy, imo. Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

You think Matt Devlin is trying to make I'm coming his catchphrase?

[Tas Melas]

No, I wouldn't.

[JD Skeets]

I don't know if it's because it was funny as hell.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think he's copying Stacy and what he does, does. Yeah, I don't. I don't know if he's spelling it C U M I N G. Right, right. But, you know, well, one of my.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Favorite signs to see on the highway, of course.

[JD Skeets]

Cummings, Georgia.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

I mean, Matt Devlin must be pumped for traders. Alan Cumming as the host. Okay, let's get to drafting last night's games because there were so many games on last night. So we'll take a couple turns drafting our favorite games, endings, performances, whatever you got. Maybe a broadcaster. Call Taz. You got the number one pick. Where do you want to start, Man.

[Tas Melas]

I'm starting in Boston, where Denver went and won. This is a last game of a seven game road trip for Denver. I could have called it in. They don't have Jokic on their team right now. And they were down and they were missing shots. They missed. What was it in the third quarter? They missed shot after shot after shot. 11 straight shots. They didn't score for about half the third quarter. But this team won't die. They go into Boston, a good team and they get a victory. Showing the entire locker room that we can win in the playoffs on the road, a real key win. And they went on this 140 run in the fourth quarter. That was. It was highlighted by Peyton Watson, I think on the defensive end. And what you could hope to see Peyton Watson add to this team in the playoffs because he's an extremely long guy, an extremely athletic guy. He was guarding Jaylen Brown one on one. He just got into his space. Jaylen Brown pushed him off, got called for a charge on one possession, and then same thing sort of happened. Jalen Brown got some space, but Peyton Watson just would not stop. He was relentless. Then he from behind, got a steel sort of block on him. Peyton Watson has become what the Nuggets hope that he could be in the postseason. Just to add defensively, just to be that little spark, that guy that he didn't get to be on the championship run. He was just there helping out, you know, being a vibes guy in the locker room. But he's been been there the entire time. And I didn't mention the offense from Peyton Watson because I don't know if it holds up. But he is looking Fantastic. He dropped 30 points yesterday. The three point shot is ridiculous since Jokic went out five games. 24, 21, 23, 24 and 30 from Peyton Watson. So the locker room vibes just incredible. This team getting deeper and looking like a championship team as they stepped into that fourth quarter, obviously, because Jamal Murray's just freaking awesome right now. I mean, the step backs, the wraparound passes, the throw to the corner, he looks fantastic.

[JD Skeets]

17 assists for Jamal Murray.

[Tas Melas]

It's showing that opposing coaches are saying, all right, we got to get the ball out of his hands. But he's being super smart and everybody coming through around him. I mean, you just, you saw so many little teeny tiny plays where they look like a championship team. Like everybody, everybody getting team stops on Jalen Brown or, or offensively. You see Aaron Gordon had Namish Kate on him at the three point line. He goes jab step, jab step. I'll hit a three in your eye. I mean, that just looks like super confident. And Peyton Watson, the Euro step in transition, the wraparound passes for him. And so Jokic just must be sitting there saying, wow, this is, this is, this is good. Happy Serbian Christmas on January 7th for him because he's got to be super pumped. Like the other day he was talking to Peyton Watson on the bench. There's a great clip of Peyton Watson listening to every single word that Nikola Jokic has to say. That's your leader and everybody following suit. So they look. They look extremely good. And I was, you know, calling this team a championship type team when Jokic went down, wondering if they could come together. I'm not even going to go as deep as Zeke Najee, who's doing the right freaking things out there right here, right now, because I don't know if he's going to contribute in the playoffs. All that to be said, though, you know, 1 through 15, they're all playing together, so they look great.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

That's the silver lining of Jokic being out and the Nuggets having so many injuries is that they're getting to see what all of this depth can actually do. And these guys are split, seizing the opportunity. Like you said, Watson's playing great. He's got great confidence on the offensive end right now. You have to wonder if he might stay starting when Cam Johnson comes back, just with the way he's playing, what he brings on the defensive end. Duron Holmes hit two threes last night. Like you said, Najee is playing probably the best he ever has. At the very least, those two guys probably should get some sort of an opportunity as a change of pace to Jokic and Valentunas at center. And then Jamal Murray's just playing differently right now. The Nuggets are playing a more traditional style with Yoko. Like, not as many post ups, not as many dribble handoffs, a lot of screen and roll for Jamal Murray. And he was great last night. 17 assists, only 2 turnovers scored when they needed him to score. Like I said before, like, anytime the Nuggets are going to win with Jokic out, that's huge for them to stay out of the play in tournament. But it's even more encouraging going forward to think, yeah, maybe our team is looking deeper and deeper. Maybe we're actually going to be able to get something from some of these young guys. Like, we've seen Jalen Pickett have a huge game. Jaylen Pickett, like, he was just contributing last night, but he's been a star in their previous win. Awesome for the Nuggets for sure.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah. And I would think Jamal Murray has absolutely locked up an all star selection for the first time in his career at this point. Yeah, I think it was obviously headed that way when Jokic was playing. He had started finally a season strong. They had a good record. He's putting up his stats Again, he's never made one. We got this international angle as well. But then Jokic goes down and he's the leader of that team, like you said, sort of adapted his game and gotten these other guys playing well. Like, how is it not a walk at this point for him to make his first all star team? He should be on that team, on that world team. For team Canada, Kitchener's finest, Jamal Murray.

[Tas Melas]

This is year 10 for Jamal Murray, and this is clearly his best year. I mean, he missed one year, so he's only played nine seasons, but he was drafted in 16 and he's gotten better. And I don't know if it was Nikola Jokic bringing these guys together last year when Michael Malone was fired, I mean, just how he, he, he asked more of his teammates and they have become new guys. I mean, Jamal Murray is that guy and they seem like they're super, super deep. One note. We heard Doris Burke on the call there. She was on, on this call and I think she just realized Hugo Gonzalez, the Boston Celtics, is a really good basketball player. May have not seen him before, I don't know. Because there was almost a, a tone of surprise in her voice like, whoa, who is this guy? She didn't say that, but it's kind of like that. Maybe she listens to no dunks because we seriously baked him up recently. He's just fun to watch how he just like comes from the corner offensive rebound. Like he just does the small things.

[JD Skeets]

Speaking championship team rebounds, we had a Portuguese beef last night.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Somebody told me how to say big beef alert in oh man, Portuguese.

[JD Skeets]

But 20 rebounds for Keda is what I'm getting at. And 10 of them were on the offense of glass, so holy crap, there's a whole lot of offensive rebounds there.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Alerta de B. That's not right. But thanks you to. Thanks to Daniel who said, Kate, a big beef alert.

[JD Skeets]

All right. Way to give it a go.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah. All right. So the Nuggets winning without Jokic snapping the Celtics five game win streak. That goes number one here in our. In our draft. You have the second overall pick.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Yeah. Wild game in Brooklyn. The nets trail by 18 with a minute and a half left in the third quarter. They were down by 12 with less than six minutes remaining. Came all the way back. Held Orlando to 14 points on 6 of 20 shooting in the fourth quarter. Nets have been playing pretty good defense for about a month and a half here. Jaeger Joman tied the game with a three pointer with three seconds left. Paolo missed a deep three at the Buzzer. And that was not the last we were going to hear from either of these guys. Ot. Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. The Magic took a one point lead on some sort of a botched coverage from the nets. Wendell Carter Jr. Ended up wide open underneath the hoop. Paolo found him. Some guy's shoe fell off. I think it was Day Ron Sharp. But then Jagor Joman went to the bank, banked in a three pointer to take the lead with five seconds left. Which was just enough time for Paolo Bonchero to bank in his own three pointer to win the game. Toes barely behind the line.

[JD Skeets]

Maybe on the line, but we did.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Not have a great angle to tell. Especially like when you're looking at the screenshots afterwards. They're so blurry, so pixelated, you know. Thankfully, Paulo was wearing bright green shoes, I think. So it looked like it was back, but I don't know. I've never seen something like that before. Double bank, clutch three pointers. That was hilarious. I thought a needed win for the Magic can't lose to the Wizards and the Nets in consecutive games. The next step for them is winning two in a row. Like I said yesterday, I haven't done that since the beginning of December, but I was more taken by Joe. Man, he's a weird player.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Had 18 points last night. Five assists, five threes. That's a great line. He didn't make a shot until the last two minutes of the fourth quarter and then hit five threes in the last seven minutes. And as Sarah Coustock said, it was banger after banger after banger. And that one was a banker. I thought a nice call from her. But 10 points per game on the season for Joman. Three rebounds, three assists. He's shooting 38% on threes, taking six of them per game. That's nice. They said this guy couldn't shoot coming into the NBA. He can shoot threes, but he doesn't do anything else. 42% on two point attempts. He only takes three per game, which is really weird. He's taken 100 more threes than twos. It's like six foot eight. Yeah, he can't get by anyone. He is not quick, he is not strong and his handle is not very tight, but he can shoot threes right now. And he is a good passer. Like he's found some guys underneath the hoop, but fun one to watch. Guys just banking in threes. Neither of them even close to on purpose. They were almost both straight on as well. Good stuff. The Double bank.

[JD Skeets]

Crazy game. Anything to add to the magic ending?

[Tas Melas]

Just wild. A laughable Michael Porter Jr. Moment. I thought 13 seconds left, they're going to double out at the perimeter. Michael Porter Jr's brain fart and they allow dunk the De Silva to make it a three point game to require the the tying bank shot later on for him. But I thought it was good at the end of regulation. So after that dunk, Banquero had a chance to win this thing. And he missed that three by a lot.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Yes, he did.

[Tas Melas]

And it was cool. Anthony Black gave him the ball. Like he passed it to him. And as Bankero shot it, he's just looking at Ben Caro. I think he's looking to get the reaction. Is that thing going in? I'm going to look at your face to determine. And then it was bad. But the first possession of overtime, Ben Caro was ready. I mean, he got into the lane and scored. So he turned it around. While just a wild, wild ending for that game.

[JD Skeets]

Knew that one was going to get drafted pretty high here in our draft. I'll have the third pick overall and I will take Denny Avdia scoring 41 points as the Blazers held on to just beat the Rockets. 103-102-102. This one didn't have a bank job, but it did have a review at the end. And that ball was still on Tari Eason's fingertips because it appeared as though Tari Eason had scored on a tip in for Houston at the buzzer. The Rockets celebrated as such. He thought it was good. The bench thought it was good. But upon review, that basket did not beat the shot clock. You can see that one. You could see we had the technology to be like lights on. That ball is still still just on his fingertips, so it's not going to count. And the Blazers pull out a miraculous victory. And there were some other things I want to get into, but they got the review right. Tough, tough loss there for Houston right at the end.

[Tas Melas]

I guess Kevin Durant could have let that go half second earlier, the jumper that he missed.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah, yeah. It was wild how we got here, though, because the Blazers were holding a 103, 100 lead. The Blazers elected to foul up three. Like, we don't want a three pointer being banked in. Did you see the Magic Netscape? So they put Durant on the line.

[Tas Melas]

Durant looked at Thiago Splitter, the head coach of the Blazers, and called it immediately. Come on, man, you're gonna let me freaking shoot the ball. We're gonna Go to the foul line here in an NBA game. Literally looked at him and pointed at him as soon as he was very funny.

[JD Skeets]

So he made the pair of free throws with about six seconds left. So that is a one point lead now for Portland. But on the inbounds play, Houston is like obviously pressuring everybody. They're trying to get a steal, trying to create some havoc here, and they get called for a loose ball. Felt this also involves Tari Eason. But then Yoka's like, hold on, hold on, let's challenge that one. Because he had a challenge still in his back pocket. And they looked at it and they're like, nah, you know what? Tar Eason sort of hit the ball and then there was some contact. So rockets ball. So that's why they had the chance then to win this thing at the end. And KD got to his spot, pulled up with a jumper, missed. And then tar eason.1 second too late on the tip in. But yeah, the referee on that play that they challenged and overruled was after review, the defender knocks the ball loose and then there was marginal contact. And I think it was right when you looked at it, sort of how he hit the ball first and then there's the contact and he came up with it. So it almost backfired. The fouling up. Three, yes, for the Blazers, but it didn't in the end. It worked for them in the end.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, it was Duran vs Denny show there at the end. Just back and forth, back and forth. I like Taris. In post game, he was asked, why is it guarded? Why is it hard to guard Denny Avda? He said the Zebras just called out the referees, although they did give him a call when they allowed him to inbound the ball or, you know, retrieve the ball there. As you said, that overturned one, but.

[JD Skeets]

He'S just saying the guy's tough to guard as it is. And he obviously barrels into a lot of us defensively and he shoots a lot of free throws. Danny Obvious shoots a ton of free throws.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

15 last night.

[JD Skeets]

Yep.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

He just got the most in the league this season.

[JD Skeets]

There you go.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

He play, he's got the James Harden arm rip. When he drives the hoop, he throws his arms out into everybody.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah, and he. He actually leads the league. Denny Avdia leads the league in successful and ones. He's up to 42 and ones on the season because he had a couple last night in the fourth quarter, had another opportunity, but he missed the free throw down the stretch. But I looked it up, I was like, Danny, Offdia leading. That's surprising. First off to me, who usually leads this? Any guess on who usually has led the league in and ones for the fat at least the last five years?

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Giannis.

[JD Skeets]

Yep. Giannis, the clubhouse leader when it comes to and ones. You got to go all the way back to like, 20, 21 or something like that.

[Tas Melas]

Those are counting free throws.

[JD Skeets]

Yes.

[Tas Melas]

That are good. That goes for.

[JD Skeets]

I believe it counts the free throws that are good, successful and ones, I should say.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Giannis must be crushing it on attempts.

[Tas Melas]

Attempts, for sure.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

He.

[JD Skeets]

You got to go back to like, 20, 21 or something like that. He was tied with Zion Williamson one year now. Giannis still is, like, fifth in the league this year despite missing all those games. So it goes Denny Avdia with 42, then it goes Luka Doncic with 40, Shea Gilders Alexander with 36, and then Julius Randall and Giannis at 30. That makes successful and ones. Yeah. And a lot of guys.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Most of those got. Well, I would say, outside of Luca and Shay, the other guys you named just put their head down. They just play football and get file.

[JD Skeets]

Calls to keep it going. It's Booker Towns, Jalen Johnson, Cade Cunningham and Jalen Brown that rounds out the top 10.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

A lot of guys that are creating contact. Yeah, let's go. And then have the ability to finish, obviously, because they're strong as hell or have some touch to successfully get the basket and then try and hit the free throw. Yeah, I just thought that was interesting. Denny Avdia, man, huge stats. Putting up awesome stats. And the Blazers, another victory here for them as they try and get back to.500.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Yeah, they're very close to one game under right now. They're playing pretty well. They had a tough stretch there in December, but I'm impressed with Donovan Klingen. This guy's looking great. 12 points, seven rebounds, three assists, and a block last night. He's a big part of the reason, I think, that Abdia gets separation on the outside. Nine screen assists. They have good chemistry. He was just doing enough to kind of knock Amend Thompson off of his spot, give Abdia a chance to get downhill. He's also made two three pointers, made two threes last night, made two or more in three straight games and seven of his last 13. That's interesting for a huge guy like Donovan clinging, because he's also leading the league in offensive rebounds. He's getting you extra possessions. He's a big, huge defender. Top 15 in blocks. He doesn't move his feet all that well. It does look like, he could probably trim down over the course of his career and become a more affected defender on the perimeter. But definitely feels like a building block to me and a big part of the reason the Blazers are able to have a good defense. And he also looks exactly like my friend Pat Murphy, so I'll call him Murph from now on.

[JD Skeets]

Oh, he's been phenomenal, you're right. And like, yeah, you'd love him to be a little more quick footed, let's say, or a little faster. That probably will never be him, but he sets bone crunching picks because he's a monster dude. He owns the offensive glass. Like you said, he is a pretty good rim deterrent. And then, yeah, he can stretch the floor a little bit and hitting these threes. And like you said that pretty short sample size. But you can go back a little bit more because I brought it up the other day. It's not bad percentage for a guy his size and like the frequency he's getting them up. So that's a hell of a combo in a center, in a very young center moving forward. So it's a good find for them.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Leading the NBA in the four and a half offensive rebounds per game. And a guy who always gets the offensive rebounds, who's doing well in that department? Stephen Adams. On the other side, the play where he literally just chucked young Hansen under the bench, under the rim. Just a hilarious replay of Young Hansen falling away and getting called for a foul. And he goes to the referees, hey, man, that guy just shoved me. Why am I called for the foul? Very funny. He literally just got shoved. Steven Adams. Speaking of people who barrel into people, that's Stevie.

[JD Skeets]

Well, I can't imagine he has a lot of successful N1s on this season. Maybe a couple. All right, we're gonna take a quick break and when we come back, we'll do another round of drafting last night's best games.

[Tas Melas]

Is it Friday yet? Best day of the week in January. Definitely Friday. Where's the weekend at? No disrespect to those people who work on the weekends. Much love to them, but can't wait for that Friday call. Every Friday from 6 to 7:30. Right before the weekend, it's NBA Happy Hour on FanDuel. Your pregame for the weekend. We're talking limited time, specials, boosts, bonuses, surprises, all dropping in the app during happy hour. So before games start, check the FanDuel app to see the week's special. Then you make your move because those offers expire at 7:30 Eastern. It's a good way to start your weekend work or not. Just have some fun. That's NBA Happy Hour every Friday from 6 to 7:30pm Eastern only on FanDuel, official sportsbook partner of the NBA.

[Dr. Priyanka Walley]

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[Hari Kondabolu]

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[Dr. Priyanka Walley]

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[Hari Kondabolu]

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[Dr. Priyanka Walley]

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[Tas Melas]

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[Dr. Priyanka Walley]

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[Hari Kondabolu]

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[Dr. Priyanka Walley]

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[Hari Kondabolu]

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[Dr. Priyanka Walley]

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[Ed Zitron]

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[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

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[Ed Zitron]

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[Michelle Williams]

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[Dr. Laurie Santos]

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[JD Skeets]

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[DJ Hester Prynne]

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[Dr. Laurie Santos]

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[DJ Hester Prynne]

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[JD Skeets]

Berto eats here in the Stream. Team says I think the Rockets should shoot better on Saturday. Gotta get outta Portland with one win. They do play again here on the weekend, so we'll get a little rematch here of that very close. Tough finish, but let's draft another round of last night's games. There's like nine games still to pick from Taz.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, then the games were really, really good. Even in Golden State, where the Bucks and Warriors I thought was a really good game. It was a good game for the warriors to get a win because the Bucks, they kept fighting. They were down double digits in the fourth quarter, but they kept fighting. And overall, you don't think the Milwaukee Bucks have a lot of depth, but they shot 54% against the warriors that's a lot of makes. 44% from three and only turned it over 12 times. They had six guys in double figures. You had KPJ Kemporter Jr going right at Draymond Green. You can hear the Mics, hear Yannis at Tumbo say, I told you so. I told you.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Just go at that old guy, you'll be good.

[Tas Melas]

He didn't say that, but I added that in. Giannis made two threes. He pulled out a Bane celebration after a three. Like literally holding his hands over his mouth as he went back on the floor. Never seen him do that. But to pull out a couple threes, he was just excited. And then on the other side, the warriors matched the Bucks with everything. They only had nine turnovers, 22 second chance points. The question always with the warriors, are they deep enough? Are they going to be able to do it? Kaminga's not playing. Gary Payton II didn't play in this one. Quentin Post is starting. No trace, Jackson Davis. But a bunch of their guys here on this home trip or this home stand, I should say, where they got eight straight games at home look pretty good. Moses Moody sidestep three, making three threes. Brandon Pajemski was starting to swing that ball around. Al Horford was swinging that ball around. That guy had six assists off the bench, a couple blocks, two big threes and much love for my man. D' Anthony Melton played his game of the season 22 points off the bench, five threes. And it's funny with this team because they're old, they got no back to backs until the end of this home game stand. So D. Anthony Melton's playing in every game. Al Horford's playing in every game. There's no chilling in between games and that bodes well for them. Jimmy Butler had 22. I haven't even mentioned Steph, where all the focus is on the bucks. He had 31 and put the Bucks to bed night night right at the end. But a good fight on both sides to get this game to the end. Where we wonder, the Milwaukee Bucks here, are they fading? Will they trade Giannis? You wonder what the warriors, what they're going to get to help out. Well, they showed some depth in this one. Again, that eight game home stand is for them to get together and find that common Golden State warriors chemistry. Horford swing in it. Brandon Pajemski swinging. All those guys rotating and moving. So they looked really good in this particular game to start their home stand.

[JD Skeets]

I got excited when I saw your guy, D. Anthony Melton scored 22 points and hit five threes.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

I'm glad you drafted this one.

[JD Skeets]

Yes.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Melton, great game. Horford, great game.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

I was like, this is. This has to go to task.

[JD Skeets]

These are task two teams, too, man. You talk about the warriors and Bucks. I feel like more than anyone.

[Tas Melas]

Well, I don't know. We talked yesterday on our emergency podcast about the best Atlanta Hawks ever in. In the, you know, the modern area. Al Horford's got to be in that. In that top five or so.

[JD Skeets]

He's.

[Tas Melas]

He's got to be.

[JD Skeets]

He's close.

[Tas Melas]

Big Al. Yeah, he looked. He looked great. So this team hasn't looked great consistently, but I think they're. They're going to get it together here for these eight games.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

The schedule should be beneficial for him, too. They complained about having to travel so much. All the back to backs they had in the first half of the season. All that means is the second half of the season is going to be a little simpler. More home games, fewer back to backs, which is good for a team that is aging.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Curry completely carried this team 27 points through three quarters. Jimmy, I thought, kind of helped shut the door. And then night night from Curry, great stuff. Big key to the warriors looking good, though, is that Draymond's playing a lot better. 3 total turnovers in his 3 games back since resting against Oklahoma City. You mentioned the warriors have been better controlling the ball. 15, seven, and then I don't know if they're nine or 10 turnovers, maybe 10 total team turnovers. I don't know if they're under 15. That's awesome for the Warriors. And if Draymond is able to provide any sort of playmaking or scoring, that's huge because he's kind of been a negative offensive player, I think, for the majority of this season, mostly because he's been throwing the ball away. He still makes risky passes, but when they go through, they look good. And the warriors offense gets a little bit of juice.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, and Giannis went right at him, and they got into a little physical confrontation. I don't know if you saw that, but Giannis went right at his face, and Draymond came back up the floor after Giannis scored on him and bumped him. So the Draymond Green, you know, fight has to be there for the Golden State warriors to be good, but he also has to rein it in a little bit. And, you know, he's. He is so far, you know, most of the time, other than getting tossed in the games, like, he doesn't you know, throw, throw fists or anything. And he doesn't battle his mom. I liked from the post game. Nick Friedell, our friend asked him, what moment in your basketball career has your mom been the most upset with you? Then he said, she told me the other day we need to have a heart to heart. I've been avoiding her ever since. I am afraid of my mom. I'm still afraid of my mom is what he said. Very funny to hear Draymond Green say that. But. But he, but he has, you know, reigned in a little bit but you know, the last few weeks.

[JD Skeets]

Anyways, if the Bucks would have won last night in Golden State, they, because the Bulls did lose their game to the Pistons would have made their way into the play in conversation because they have the tiebreaker against the Bulls. I think they've beaten them both times they've played this year. They would have had an identical record after the Bulls again lost last night. But they didn't. So the Bulls hanging on to the 10th seed, which is right, really theirs.

[Tas Melas]

You know it.

[JD Skeets]

Yes, that's exactly right. It tk 5th pick overall.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

I got the Knicks. They'd been struggling heading into last night's game. Four straight losses, five and six since winning the cup. And I mentioned after the loss to the Pistons, a really bad loss for New York, that Carl Anthony Towns had really been struggling. Only four field goal attempts against Detroit, the third time in nine games. He'd only taken single digit shots. But last night against the Clippers, he said, if you're not going to involve me, I'm getting involved myself. 20 points, 11 rebounds, 7 assists, 4 offensive rebounds. Just going and getting the ball. That's a good way to get some shots. Went to the free throw line 10 times. I thought he played really tough. He was finishing through contact. He was making his faces, his driving faces, playing into the refs. He got so mad at a referee, but then he realized the ref called the foul. He's like, thank you. All right, thank you. Thank you very much for that. Led the Knicks in usage last night. So good to see Towns kind of get back involved in the flow of things offensively. And I think part of the reason that that happened for New York and for Towns is that the knicks started Deuce McBride for Mitchell Robinson and it really paid off. 16 assists or 16 points for Deuce. 4 assists, 4 three pointers. There's a little bit more space out there when he is the sub for Josh Hart rather than Mitchell Robinson. There's definitely more athleticism. It just give Towns a little bit more room to work on the inside. And I think that was beneficial for the Knicks and certainly for Towns. Good win for them to beat a Clippers team who's been playing pretty well of late.

[JD Skeets]

I think an important win too because they had the four game losing streak where they lost to the spurs, the Hawks, the Sixers and the Pistons. Then they have this one game back in Madison Square Garden against the Clippers. So they get that because now they head back out on the road against, you know, not the most elite teams in the league, but the Suns good. Blazers, pretty good. Kings, okay, they suck. And then the warriors who obviously are above.500. So like not easy to make that little four game West coast road trip here for the Knicks. So they got that one against LAC coming into their bar. And you're right, Kat looked really engaged because we had not like Cat had gone sort of missing there for a couple weeks. Where we started going, is he gonna make the all star team? That felt like a lock. I don't know now, but that was a good game from him. All right, I have the final pick here. So many games to pick from still. But I'll take the other buzzer beater last night. And that was Emmanuel Quickley with the three right as the horn goes in. Charlotte Raptors get past the Hornets just 97, 96. He hit this three from the top of the key. And they rallied in the fourth quarter. They were down 10. It wasn't looking good for the Raps at all. For whatever reason, the Hornets sort of have their number. They play really close games generally, but what a shot from quickly, the Raptors. Man, what a stupid game, to be honest. Like I had this one on. Yes, the Raps. It's where I pick them game. And the raptors were like 3 of 27 from deep through the first three quarters. They missed so many in a row. Then they finally hit one. That's when we got Matt Devlin screaming, I'm coming, I'm coming. Which was very funny.

[Tas Melas]

And Jack coming at the same time. Both broadcasters coming at the same time.

[JD Skeets]

But the Raptors went 47 from distance in the fourth quarter, including that huge one there from Quickley. But the only reason they're in this game and quickly has a shot to win it is because of R.J. barrett. Yes.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, yeah.

[JD Skeets]

This guy just took over. He's like, no, we're not losing to the Hornets again. Okay, give me the ball. And Hornets forgot a lot of the times that he's left handed. So a few of those you can literally see like the bench, like yelling like he's left handed, like, try and make him go the other way. But anyway, he was. He had 28.7 boards. The Raptors have a pretty damn good record when RJ Barrett plays, so he's the only reason they got there and then quickly had a chance. And then Lamelo, he did put them up. Had a beautiful driving layup, left hand, you know, attacked quickly blew by him. Sandro came over, he had to go really high off the glass. Nice finish, but he left too much time on the clock. And that's like, you do see the analytics say, like in a tie game situation, situation like that, you really want to avoid any time left on the clock. Now he hit the layup, put him up, but there was still like 1.6 seconds left. And it's just enough. Also, dumb play by Tijan Salon. He's defending the inbounder Mamu. Yep. It's like there's probably not enough time for Mamu to like come in and get the ball back. Like you can help off and try and like get a hand up, make it a little more tougher on quickly shot, but. But he just stayed attached.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Yeah, he guarded Mamu out of bounds.

[JD Skeets]

I know. It's like, oh my God. Like the basketball iq, come on. Pretty low, but the other iq, amazing.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. This game was hideous. It was. It was pretty ugly.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Adam Silver's right. Sometimes this is a highlight league. Like you go watch. Just watch the clips of this. I watched it because, yeah, I watched every. Every single One of those 19 consecutive missed three point shots by the Toronto Raptors. And Lamelo, you know, we talk about him with the lefty scooter minute plus left. He shot a ball way too early from three point land. When he's trying to do his thing. You could hear on the mic bing just a bang off that backboard. I mean, he missed by a mile. But it was. Brandon Ingram doesn't play in the second half. Scotty Barnes barely played in the fourth quarter.

[JD Skeets]

They couldn't get him back in.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, they couldn't get him. He only played four minutes in the fourth quarter. It was all big boy ball from RJ Barrett. You know, whether he's right or lefty, he was just using that body. And he was talking trash to the Charlotte Hornets bench. Sixteen points in that fourth quarter. Seven made shots. It was all him. All an ugly, ugly game. But then he goes and wins it along with the quickly three where he just wants everybody to stay silent. Like he doesn't he's not one of those, like, it's surprising. He wasn't like a jump excited about winning a game. He was just like, quiet, you know, one of those quiet celebrations.

[JD Skeets]

He was skipping.

[Tas Melas]

He didn't do a thing. Just got him to the locker room. That's when they celebrate. That's when Darko Reakovich comes up with the chain. Scotty Barnes really shoved him. It was a hard shove. I mean, the cameraman couldn't even keep up with Darko flying all over the locker room. Great win. Great win. Great ugly win for the Raptors.

[JD Skeets]

A great, ugly win. And as funny as Devlin and Jack are, and those are my guys, I'm always generally, usually watching the Raptors broadcast of games, but not when Eric Collins is involved, because him at the end was hilarious, too. When he's dropping the no as quickly smiling. But he was pumped before that on the lamelo and we got the hum diddly d and all that. But then, oh, it's so funny. He is hilarious. Like, even Nora is like, who is this guy? I'm like, is it like, is this just for something special or something? I'm like, no, he does this all the time.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

No, this is just that January game.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even going into halftime when it was an ugly game, he was just, he's just railing off. Do you think Devlin and Jack know that they're going to an arena where Eric Collins is calling so they get super weird? Yeah, I think so.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Matches freak.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah, Yeah, I think so.

[Tas Melas]

Freak.

[JD Skeets]

So Raptors pull it off as they get the victory. Okay, we did six games. There's a lot of other great games, but we'll call it there for now of the night. Sponsored by David Rabineau. David Rabineau has a new record out. We got a lot of musicians.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

That are fans of not dunks and whoa, boy. His new record here and gone, which you can check out if you [e-mail]. i see your name, Dave, and I want to say Rainbow.

[Tas Melas]

Every time I, I, I literally, when he sent that in, I had to check six different times every time I look at it.

[JD Skeets]

That's a cool name, David Rainbow.

[Tas Melas]

Especially, especially an artist name. You think? Okay. He named himself Dave Rainbow.

[JD Skeets]

Right?

[Tas Melas]

Right.

[JD Skeets]

Nope. Dave Rabino. His last song, he said, said Now I Lay Me down to Sleep does briefly mention the Lakers, if that's helpful. So if you are an NBA fan, you, I'm sure you are, if you're watching or listening to us, go check out this record. Go get the Lakers reference in here.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

It's unbelievable, man. Not only did David Rabineau. Right now I lay me down to sleep. We're also getting ad read copy.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

For whoa, boys. Now taking on a little free to.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Make it your own.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, yeah, I'll make it my own. He has a song about being at the bar at the end of the world. Okay, that's it. It's not part of the copy. But, you know, I had a drink with him at the bar at the end of the world. I didn't. But you know, like, you know, in songs. Yes, we did. So cool. Cool. Raveno.

[JD Skeets]

Well, the wo boy goes to Shay Gilgis Alexander. Here's a game we didn't draft, but he had a hell of a game. Game high 46 points for SGA as OKC. He outlasted the Jazz. He had a jumper to get us into overtime and they won. 129, 125. SGA shot 14 of 26 from the field. 17 of 19 at the free throw line. Six boards, six assists, one steal, one block. Did not commit a turnover in heavy minutes in the victory. Like I said, I mean, this was pretty damn impressive. He was like, we're not losing tonight because we had lost a couple. They had lost a couple of games in a row.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

We just lost to the Hornets. We can't lose to the Jazz.

[JD Skeets]

Honestly, he's like, no. You know, because he played a little unlike Shay a little bit in this one. I thought it was a little more like, no, no, no. I'm taking on a bigger role here. I know we're about an everybody eats type of team, but he really was like, we're going on my watch here tonight, so hell of a game to get the victory.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, yeah, that shot to send them to overtime. I mean, that's Shea putting this team on his back. Yeah, that's a lot of free throws. 17 of 19. He went. So you put 17 free throws on the graphics. Like I'm out of fantasy this season. But they count when you're going head to head. Like, free throws made, I guess. Right. Because I met. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I always.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

I always played percentage, I think.

[Tas Melas]

Right. Yeah.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Which, I mean, good percentage as well.

[Tas Melas]

He's got a very, very good. Again, that's a stinky shooting game for OKC. 18 from 37 of 38. They've been called for like a month. Yeah, they have been.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Up. Yeah. And Chad beasted in overtime.

[JD Skeets]

Pick him tonight. Only four games on last night or tonight? Task 12 on last night. That was what I was saying about the Trey Young trade. Timing was good. You know, we were still up. We did the emergency podcast. The one thing that would have been nice if the trade had happened tonight with only four games on instead of 12 games on. There's too many games. But yeah, whatever, whatever.

[Tas Melas]

We got a couple shows up, you know.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Exactly right.

[Tas Melas]

We have been volume podcast producers and we did it again. Threw another one in there. I thought I was gonna cover last night. Thought I was gonna do it again. Toronto gets the win but doesn't cover the two and a half points for they only win by one. Sorry, I lose. So going into tonight, I. After losing, I just didn't have a field so I just threw it up there. I threw it up for everybody to pick. Cleveland visiting Minnesota where they're a three and a half point favorite at home. So they gotta win by four more.

[JD Skeets]

Oh, I thought it was two and a half.

[Tas Melas]

My bad. It is two and a half. I don't know why three and a half on. In the brain you guys said Minnesota is covering that two and a half points for a 20 by three or more. So I get the cats just by our rule because we don't like our graphics to look like everybody's taking the same team. I let you guys take it because I didn't have any feel and said, all right, continue my terrible month here so far at 1 and 3. You guys are 3 and 1.

[JD Skeets]

Fun. We have not had a lot of games in pick' em this month where we have a. A home favorite.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

It's true.

[JD Skeets]

We've had a lot of dogs at home. I've noticed, which is, you know, I like. So yeah, Wolves gotta win by three more. It's tough. I think both teams are playing much better. I think I just like the. The wolves a little bit more in this one. Obviously that's my pick.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Yeah, home court advantage maybe comes through, but Both teams are under 500 against opponents that are 500 or better. So this will be a good win on either side. And part of the reason it makes it a tough pick like who actually shows up.

[Tas Melas]

Right? Exactly.

[JD Skeets]

That's tonight's game. Only four on. Like I said, we'll be here tomorrow with the drop podcast though. Maybe some worst of the week nominees. Obviously. Rapid fire.

[Tas Melas]

No Scotto.

[JD Skeets]

No. No Scotto. Tomorrow. No, we.

[Tas Melas]

We know that next week.

[JD Skeets]

Oh, that's next week. Oh, for Scotto. As the slappo builds up.

[Tas Melas]

O.

[JD Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Melas]

Yep.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Hey.

[JD Skeets]

I was stinking. This is really random. I just said slop. You know, we say slop SL Season, of course. Shout out to, you know, ball the mascot for Slop. Do you remember the wrestler? Was his name Henry Goodwin?

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Hog. Right.

[JD Skeets]

Like, like, he was a farmer.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Henry Orpheus Goodwin or something.

[JD Skeets]

Okay, so you know who I'm talking about. But he. He literally came to the ring with a bucket of slop.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

We got to get him on the show.

[JD Skeets]

Well, I was wondering, like, is he on Cameo? Henry Goodwin. He's still alive.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

He's looking alive. Okay, Mark Canterbury.

[JD Skeets]

Okay, well, I'd love for Henry Goodwin in his overalls and maybe the hat with the bucket of slop to do something for Slob season for us.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Toss it in Google here, see if he's on cameo.

[JD Skeets]

Probably not.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, yeah, I see him in his John Deere hat with the bucket of slop. He would be good.

[JD Skeets]

It slopped, and it was literally his whole. Whole thing was buckets of slop.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Didn't. Didn't one of these Internet dictionaries name Slop? The word of the year for 2025?

[JD Skeets]

Yeah.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Wow, that's exciting.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah. Now, I, I think it was more to do with AI Slop, probably than. Than Trader Slop versus Slop, but still hard to tell. Slop is slop, and the piggies eat it up. Yeah. Okay.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Slop is slopp, and the piggies eat it.

[JD Skeets]

Henry Goodwin. 96 Royal Rumble. He definitely slopped up Jerry Lawler. I remember that.

[Tas Melas]

Wow.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah, definitely the bucket. I can picture it.

[Tas Melas]

Did he get it in his crown? Jerry Lawler had a crown like a.

[JD Skeets]

Mullet at that point. Anyway, we got more podcasts coming. This is fun. This weekend. Yeah. On the weekend, we are going to be covering Traders Season 4 Traders US version. It premieres tonight on Peacock. Couple Survivor players in the mix. Jam Jam, Natalie, Rob Sester. And, you know, this guy hasn't been on reality TV in, like, 20 years, so that's fun. A very weird, funny, random show. I think it'll be a blast to podcast about. So myself, Nora and JD Will be here this weekend. TK Might make some appearances. Moving on. I know Esch wants to come on because he loves Traders, so.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Is that Nick Carter?

[JD Skeets]

No, no. I, I, I'm blind as a bat without my glasses right now, but where.

[Tas Melas]

I know, I know.

[JD Skeets]

Colton.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, that looks like Nick Carter.

[JD Skeets]

Oh, wait, top.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, that looks.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

That must be Colton Underwood.

[JD Skeets]

It's Colton Underwood.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

The top row, second column from the room.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, it definitely looks like he's got.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

A Nick look to him. Doesn't it really got a nick? Look, I refuse to be on the show until Rapaport is gone.

[JD Skeets]

That's good. Don't worry.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Hopefully it's up one.

[JD Skeets]

I'm gonna talk so much about Michael Rappaport on this podcast. It's gonna be worth shooting in for that man.

[Tas Melas]

You're gonna. That means I'm gonna have to defend him.

[JD Skeets]

No.

[Tas Melas]

Why? Sparks, baby. I always swerve.

[JD Skeets]

He'll be the first. He'll be the first one out. He won't be able to shut up.

[Tas Melas]

I've never watched the game, so I don't know.

[JD Skeets]

You ever played Werewolf or Mafia?

[Tas Melas]

I mean, kinda.

[JD Skeets]

Okay. That's what it is. It's a glorified version of that.

[Tas Melas]

Yep. But.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Okay.

[JD Skeets]

Anyway, we'll talk about it. Yeah, we're gonna talk about it this weekend. So we'll go live at some point on no Buffs. This will sort of fill the schedule. The programming schedule until Survivor 50 premieres at the end of February. So I think we're gonna have a lot of fun recapping this. But three episodes. They dropped tonight on Peacock. So that's why we're waiting until the weekend to do it. And then moving forward, maybe we'll do it on Friday afternoons. But. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

They just, like, here, take a third of the season.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Wow.

[JD Skeets]

And enjoy. And then I think next week they drop two, and then it goes to one.

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[JD Skeets]

What up with that? Peacock? What are you doing?

[Tas Melas]

Give you a little taste with three, huh? You just can't resist. Maybe that's gotta come back for more.

[JD Skeets]

That's it. You get all invested in who are the traitors and who are the faithful.

[Tas Melas]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[JD Skeets]

All right.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Who do you guys think is gonna win tonight? The Miami Hurricanes are the Ole Miss.

[JD Skeets]

That's tonight.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Running Rebels. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Playoff.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Playoff. Game one is tonight.

[JD Skeets]

College football all season long, plays every game on Saturday. And then suddenly when you get to the postseason, it's never on Saturday.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Nope. It's like Thursday, Friday. And the championship is on Monday, I think.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Curveball.

[JD Skeets]

Fascinating.

[Tas Melas]

Give me Ole Miss.

[JD Skeets]

I'm sure Miss doesn't. Isn't that Lane Kiffin. What's his name? He. Yeah, I. He gets paid for every game they continue to win.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

But he's left to go to lsu, I believe.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah. But he obviously gets like a million dollars for every win. The. Or whatever. It's a crazy bonus. That's weird.

[Tas Melas]

So it looks like he has royalties.

[JD Skeets]

No, he used to be the coach.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

Then. Then they make the tournament, they make the playoffs.

[Tas Melas]

But he got earlier. But LSU got fired earlier. Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah. Well, we want you to coach. So they're like. This became this weird story of like is going to coach them.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, okay.

[JD Skeets]

But he's gone.

[Tas Melas]

Very strange.

[JD Skeets]

You're taking Ole Miss.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Yeah, exactly. Canes for life.

[JD Skeets]

That's right.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Michael Irvin going insane. I saw that guy's stomach when they won the last game.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

He's pretty good shape.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

He is in good shape.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Actually, I'm good. I'm taking. I'm taking the Hurricanes. I changed my mind. That's where the Rock played college football.

[JD Skeets]

That's right.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

I wonder if Dwayne will be there.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, Big game.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah, big game.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

Dwayne.

[JD Skeets]

Does he have a movie coming out? He just did the Smashing Machine. Didn't do that.

[Tas Melas]

Great.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

I don't know if he's got a movie coming out.

[JD Skeets]

Probably Moana. I mean, no, Moana's.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

They are doing a live action. Moana.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah, he's in it, right?

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

Okay.

[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

He's Maui.

[JD Skeets]

Yeah, Right. That makes sense. Okay. All right. Enjoy the football tonight, enjoy the basketball tonight, enjoy the traders tonight. And we'll hopefully see you tomorrow morning at 10am Eastern. Till then, Clipper Bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome.

[Tas Melas]

Thanks for joining us. And remember, hope you got some time to watch tv. That's a lot of stuff to take in.

[JD Skeets]

And we play basketball on Thursday nights.

[Tas Melas]

I remember you can watch on multiple screens. You don't need to watch every minute of traders to really understand what's going on. You know what I mean? That's what people are doing these days. Multi screen jd.

[JD Skeets]

You have the Peacock stock premium.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[JD Skeets]

You don't have to watch commercials. Hopefully.

[Tas Melas]

Hopefully that's the case.

[JD Skeets]

I do. That sucks. Spring for it. Yeah, why not? Okay, good. Write it off now.

[Tas Melas]

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[TK (possibly Tas's co-host or guest)]

All right.

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