Harden Enters Trade Rumor Rumble, Hornets Rising & The Giannis List

Summary

No Dunks – February 3, 2026

Episode Overview

On this episode, Skeets, Tas, Trey, and JD tackle the NBA’s hottest trade rumors—including James Harden’s latest trade saga, the Clippers and Cavs’ rumblings, how it impacts both franchises, and how this rumor mill is reshaping the notion of trade requests. They move on to the escalating Giannis Antetokounmpo sweepstakes, evaluating potential deals and their viability around the league. The crew then turns to actual hoops, recapping a wild Hornets comeback and other key games, and wrap up by drafting the two American rosters for the upcoming All-Star Game.

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Main Segments & Key Discussion Points

1. James Harden’s Trade Rumor Rumble (02:43–17:54)

Rumor Breakdown

• The Cleveland Cavaliers and LA Clippers have discussed a James Harden for Darius Garland swap (03:37).
• The report first broke with Chris Mannix (SI), then confirmed across the major outlets (03:37–04:03).

Panel’s Reactions

• Tas Millis: Expresses disbelief. “James Harden's team was just 15 and 3. What? Why?” (04:24). Notes Harden’s history of trade requests and concludes: “It’s always about the money. He wants that next deal and he wants it locked in before he has to hit free agency.” (06:09)
• Trey Kirby: Calls Harden “the GOAT—greatest of all trade requesters. Nobody’s ever done it like him.” (05:40) Suggests both sides are avoiding the term "trade request" for PR reasons, but clearly, Harden wants out to secure his next contract (05:58–06:35).
• Je Skeets: Outlines Harden’s contractual situation: "He does have veto power on any deal because he's technically only under contract for this season as the one year bird. ... The second year of his two year, $81.5 million deal...is a player option which isn't fully guaranteed." (07:48).

Does a Harden-Garland Swap Make Sense?

• Trey Kirby: Acknowledges Harden’s higher durability vs. Garland but notes, "they're both not really good defenders...Harden's pretty unreliable in big playoff moments. So is Darius Garland. He hasn't done anything in the playoffs." (08:50)
• Tas Millis: Skeptical for both teams—Cavs are finally gelling, and adding Harden’s playoff baggage doesn’t address their weakness (10:48).

Why Would LA Want Garland?

• Skeets: Flags contract concerns: “Isn’t that run counter to all we’ve been hearing about the Clippers wanting to keep cap space past ’26-’27?” (12:52).

Why Now?

• Tas: “Weird timing though. ... The Clippers [are] back to being good.” (07:48).
• Trey: “He knows the Clippers are toast, so he's getting out,” (14:43), suggesting deadline pressure forces action, even when timing seems odd.

Harden’s Future Suitors

• Conversation pivots to Houston as a possible endpoint if VanVleet’s injury is serious (11:04).

Harden’s Trade Request Legacy

• Skeets: “How many emergency podcasts have we done for Harden?” (17:05)
• Tas: “He was the best to ever do it though: the trade demand.” (07:04)

Memorable Quotes

• “He's the goder—greatest of all trade requesters.” —Trey (05:40)
• “What is basketball? I don't understand.” —Tas (04:24)

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2. The Giannis List: Four Teams Chasing the Greek Freak (23:10–32:33)

Rumors from Shams (23:10)

• Bucks are fielding offers, with Miami, Minnesota, Golden State, and New York leading the pack.
• Milwaukee wants a blue-chip talent and/or a bevy of picks.

Evaluating the Packages

• Golden State’s Offer: “A lot of picks, a hell of a lot of picks” + young players (23:52).
• Miami’s Offer: “More young players...maybe the young prospect is Khalil Ware. Tyler Herro, depends on your opinion… And then they have picks too.” (23:58)
• Minnesota: Hinge on including Jaden McDaniels. But would the league help the Wolves land Giannis? — Trey (25:58).
• Knicks: “Very confusing...so many other things and get so many other teams involved.” — Skeets (24:20).

Panel’s Takes

• Tas Millis: Sees Wolves rumors as hot air: “I think that's what it all stems down to....I don't know if Minnesota’s going to be the team. It doesn't feel right.” (24:32)
• Trey Kirby: “Wouldn't every other team in the league realize that if we're getting involved...we're helping the Wolves get Giannis? That's odd to me.” (25:58). Thinks a trade could happen before the deadline: “I lean towards it’s going to happen. ... Somebody is gonna be willing to...do everything to get Giannis.” (26:58)

Is Trading Giannis Imminent?

• Panel notes dueling news: one outlet says “talks have started to progress,” another says “probably not going to happen until the summer.” (25:58–29:12)
• Tas is the lone voice: “It’s not dead. Maybe it happens in the summer, but anything can happen—James Harden just demanded a trade from a team that was 15-3.” (29:04, 31:28)
• Skeets: “If you wait until the summer, more draft capital could be included… That’s why [the] Bucs...have all these reasons just to wait.” (29:12–29:50)
• Poll: Will a Giannis deal happen now or after the season? (31:50)

Memorable Quotes

• “Just so much buzz right now and so many teams chasing that somebody is going to be willing to [pay up].”—Trey (26:58)
• “It’s the front office saying, ‘Our future’s done. We’re going for it right here, right now.’” —Tas on Warriors’ possible offer (27:22)

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3. Hornets Rising: Comeback Win and Unexpected Hot Streak (32:34–39:13)

Recap of Pelicans–Hornets (32:34)

• Hornets storm back from 22 down to win their seventh straight (32:34–32:48).
• LaMelo Ball cut after collision with head coach Charles Lee but returned.
• Brandon Miller took charge: “His handle is better. He’s most importantly able to stay on the court right now.” —Trey (35:49).

Defining the Win

• Tas: “They got it all done...in just a second half. Big fight. Big, big second half for them.” (33:13).
• Trey: “Brandon Miller has taken a step forward as well....made some big plays...Hornets won a game in which they didn’t play all that well. I think that’s pretty important.” (35:49)

Memorable Calls

• “LaMelo needs to play in a cage…Now he's running into his own coach. Get this guy some fencing.” —Trey (34:33)
• Eric Collins called it: “It’s going to be a Hornets party tomorrow. Eastern Conference coach of the month Charles Lee, Rookie of the Month Con Kneipple, and ‘Take your pick’ for Player of the Month.” (35:22)

Key Stats

• Brandon Miller: “22, 5, and 3 for [him] in January. Plus 11 points per 100 possessions.” (35:40)
• LaMelo: “3 for 14 [3Ps] but 5 for 6 inside the lane.” (34:45)

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4. Other Noteworthy Performances & Game Recaps (39:13–43:59)

Rockets-Pacers

• Alperen Sengun drops 39 as Rockets overcome Pacers’ parade of centers. “They grabbed 19 [offensive rebounds]...29 second chance points…that was the story.”—Tas (41:07).

Sixers-Clippers

• Sixers roll despite Clippers' “harden surprise trade request” distraction. “18 to 2 start for the Sixers. Clippers never got it under 10 points...” —Trey (42:30)
• “Philadelphia had 14 offensive rebounds, 28 second chance points, and scored 22 points off turnovers.” —Trey (42:30)

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5. All-Star: American Team Draft & Jersey Review (49:48–64:35)

Jersey Review

• The two U.S. teams will wear “Stars” (red) and “Stripes” (blue), World team in white “Slovenian-like” kit (50:21–51:18).
• Flags to be displayed on the jersey back—nice touch (50:45).

Draft Process

• Trey and Tas draft from two pools of American All-Stars, discussing the snubs, starters, and the likelihood of each player showing out in the ASG (55:31–64:35).
• Notable: Steph goes #1. LeBron slides, Ant is picked expecting a breakout, Trey gets three Jalens, and from the reserves, Scotty Barnes, Devin Booker, Chet Holmgren, and Jalen Duren get picked in the mid/late rounds.
• Fun banter about matching up players via “rock, paper, scissors” (63:35).

Dunk Contest Update

• Jalen Duren of the Pistons announced for the Slam Dunk Contest (51:21).

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6. Other Memorable Moments, Quotes, and Recaps

Emergency Harden Watch

• Panel affectionately jests about the tradition of “emergency podcasts” whenever Harden is moved (17:05–17:29).
• “Harden's power comes from the strip clubs and the casinos and the partying. You have it backwards.” —Skeets on whether Harden would thrive in Cleveland (18:34)

Notable Game Quirks

• "Eric Collins, the great Eric Collins. … He said Ryan Kalkbrenner growing the mutton chops because … it's just his beard that doesn't really fill in, so it just looks a little sparse." —Tas (37:00)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• James Harden trade rumors: 02:43–17:54
• Giannis trade chatter: 23:10–32:33
• Hornets' win and rise: 32:34–39:13
• Game recaps: 39:13–43:59
• All-Star American team draft & jersey reaction: 49:48–64:35

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• 05:40 Trey: “He’s the goder — greatest of all trade requesters. Nobody’s ever done it like him.”
• 08:50 Trey: “Harden’s pretty unreliable in big playoff moments. So is Darius Garland. He hasn’t done anything in the playoffs.”
• 14:43 Trey: “He knows the Clippers are toast, so he's getting out.”
• 17:05 Skeets: “How many emergency podcasts have we done for Harden?”
• 18:34 Skeets: “James Harden’s power comes from the strip clubs and the casinos and the partying. You have it backwards.”
• 26:58 Trey: “I lean towards it’s going to happen…somebody’s going to be willing to do everything to get Giannis.”
• 35:22 Eric Collins (via Trey): “It’s going to be a Hornets party tomorrow. Eastern Conference coach of the month Charles Lee, Rookie of the Month Con Kneipple, and ‘Take your pick’ for Player of the Month.”
• 34:33 Trey: “LaMelo needs to play in a cage…now he's running into his own coach. Get this guy some fencing.”

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Overall Tone and Style

Lively, quick-witted, inside-jokey; the guys blend in-depth analysis with original NBA nerd humor, playful sarcasm, and the camaraderie of diehard fans who’ve had this conversation a thousand times.

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For New Listeners

You’ll leave this episode:

• Fully briefed on why Harden really wants out (again), and the practical realities of a Harden-Garland or Harden-to-Houston redux.
• Ready for the deadline drama around Giannis: who can really swing a trade, what it’d cost, and why waiting for summer may still be best.
• With a surprising respect for the red-hot Hornets and a smile at the show’s signature banter as the All-Star rosters are drafted.
• Bonus: You’ll hear why Brandon Miller is “an underrated, super sweaty guy,” the team’s obsession with “emergency pods,” and where Harden might party in Cleveland.

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End of summary.

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[Je Skeets]

Good Morning, sweet world, and welcome to the no Dunks podcast, presented by FanDuel. It's Tuesday, February 3, 2026. I'm Je Skeets here in Classic Factory and alongside me, as always, Tas Millis.

[Tas Millis]

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[Je Skeets]

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[Trey Kirby Ayo]

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[Tas Millis]

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[Je Skeets]

And over yonder, making the magic Happen, Super Producer J.D.

[Tas Millis]

Hello.

[Je Skeets]

There he is. Here we are. Hello, YouTube. Hello, podcast listeners. Later on today's no Dunks, we're going to draft the two American All Star teams. Hence, Tass wearing the stars and Trey wearing the stripes. You guys look fantastic.

[Tas Millis]

Stars in the stripes.

[Je Skeets]

You made your stars?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, Danielle did.

[Je Skeets]

Oh, nice.

[Tas Millis]

I'm ready for the draft, not to be drafted. I don't want to be in the military. But also, I mean, I am wearing camouflage, so I could be drafted any day.

[Je Skeets]

We'll do the American teams in the All Star Game later. But a new name has entered the trade rumor. Rumble. The Clippers and Cavaliers have discussed a deal that would send James Harden to Cleveland for Darius Garland. Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix was the first to report on this one, followed soon after by the heavy hitters at ESPN and the Athletic and Yahoo Sports.

[Tas Millis]

But clutch points.

[Je Skeets]

Sure, and clutch points. So the Clips and the Cavaliers engaged in James Harden trade talks. That's the report as we get closer and closer to to the deadline on Thursday. Tess, let's start with you. Your reaction either late last night, you know, watching that game between the Sixers or Clippers, or maybe you found out.

[Tas Millis]

This morning, 5am this morning, I see that come in, I say, what is basketball? I don't understand. James Harden's team was just 15 and 3. What? Why? What. What is happening? And then I realized, oh, yeah, he's requested many trades. This is just the fourth time that he's done it. It's not unprecedented. It sort of makes sense. Then I start to dabble. All right, I'm. This investigative work here. Why? Why is it happening? Is it because. I don't know, maybe he wasn't talked about being an All Star this year. Not appreciated enough. Maybe he knows what's going on with aspiration and that everything's going to come down with the Clippers and he wants out first. Maybe it's money. Oh, yeah, it's money. Follow the money. That's exactly what's happening here with James. Hardy wasn't going to get an extension. He wants that. He wants to get paid. Horrible situation here for the Los Angeles Clippers. As they're asked about it post game. John Collins asked about it. Oh, gosh.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

This is awful. And Kawhi ley Leonard handled it Well, I support my guy and all that, but this is just bad for the team. But it sure feels like James Harden's going to be moved in the next 48 hours.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, and I should know. Harden did not play in last night's game. Missed the game before. These are personal reasons. So he's like away from the team here and then we get these reports here. Tk your guy James Harden wants out again. What do you think?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

He's the goder greatest of all trade requesters. Nobody's ever done it like him.

[Tas Millis]

Nobody.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

When he sees something coming to an end, he is the first one out the door. He's like JD at an all Star party. He's gone before you even know it's over. You're like, what?

[Tas Millis]

What?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

JD's already left. James Harden requested a trade.

[Je Skeets]

They're playing great.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

We're dancing out here. And J.D. wait.

[Je Skeets]

I think I saw J.D.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Walk away. It's unbelievable though. Basically, Harden has a player option for next season. Yeah, 26, 27. It is partially guaranteed. And the Clippers by all accounts are going to be chasing free agents in 2027. So Hard wants to get his extension. That's what it always is about. What it always is for James Harden. Like Tas is saying, it's always about the money. He wants that next deal and he wants it locked in before he has to hit free agency. So that's why he's doing it now. It's also kind of a non trade request because the phrasing is that him and the Clippers are working through whether the sides can find a deal. I feel like this is all just people jumping through hoops so they don't get fined for making a public trade request. But this definitely came out of nowhere. I don't think it's terrible for the Clippers if they're able to get Darius Garland back. Turn in a 36 year old guy who's going to be leaving eventually into a younger player who's under a longer contract. Of course Garland can't stay on the court, but I don't think it's the death of the Clippers. I mean, I think they're kind of already in a tough spot, but that's probably why James Harden wants to leave. But once he wants to leave, he is out of there. So this will happen.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, it's not the death of the Clippers, but it's the death of the term trade request. Request or trade demand. Right now it's just team X is talking with team Y to get player Z to that location. You know, it's just terminology. Now the term trade demand is done. He was the best to ever do it though. The trade demand. Yeah. But now that, that, that demand is dead, or excuse me, that term is dead. Maybe somebody else will be better at this whole new terminology. We got a whole sentence for somebody because they don't want to step on anyone's toes. Nobody wants to step on anyone's toes. Not even Shams not stepping on anyone's toes to claim it a trade request. Because that's what it is. That's exactly what it is. He's super.

[Je Skeets]

Weird timing though. Like you said, like you started here. The Clippers like are back to being good. They're you know, obviously of like getting back into the playing race here and all this. And he's played really well. And yeah, like right after the All Star selections are announced and he's not in the mix. And yeah, the whole aspiration of it all, like it is weird. He does have veto power on any deal because he's technically only under contract for this season as the one year bird. But the second year of his two year, $81.5 million deal he agreed to this past offseason is a player option which isn't fully guaranteed, as you said TK So he has some control here. Now the Cavaliers interest in Harden, people are saying is contingent on the amount of draft capital that the Clippers would have to attach to sweeten any deal where they would swap a 26 year old Garland for a 36 year old in Harlan. So let's talk about the actual Harden going to the Cavs for Garland from both sides. Does it make any sense for either squad? Do you like it for one more than the other? What do you think about that part?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I don't know. I think the best thing you can say about James Harden in comparison to Darius Garland is that Harlan is that Harden place like Darius Garland is always banged up. It's been quite notable this season with both of his toes going bad, both of his big toes going bad. But I throughout his career it's one thing or another has been keeping him off the court player wise. Like I'll take Harden over Garland, but I think it's pretty close. Like Harden is bigger than Darius Garland. He rebounds better. But they're both not really good defenders. I think everyone knows that Harden's pretty unreliable in big playoff moments. So is Darius Garland. He hasn't done anything in the playoffs. I think he's kind of a faller if we're being quite honest. So I don't know. I think maybe just the fact that Harden is going to be on the court is good for the Clippers or for the Cavaliers. And maybe most importantly, playing with Harden is more exciting for Donovan Mitchell than playing with Darius Garland. He's already done that. We've seen them not be able to get out of the second round of the playoffs together. Maybe you can convince yourself that having Harden alongside me is more threatening than Darius Garland. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I love Harden. There's been nobody in the media who's been a bigger Harden backer than me. But it's his playoff failings are quite evident.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, the team.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Garland has done nothing in the playoffs either.

[Je Skeets]

Fair. But the team with a reputation already of underachieving and shrinking in the playoffs. I'm talking about the Cavs here over the last little bit. They want to add James Harden to the playoff roster and try and solve the problem with a guy that notoriously comes up short. You know, Also, you know the idea of like, then having to pay James Harden at 36 and you're giving him another deal or is this like just a rental and they want to get off of Garland's contract because guy can't stay healthy. There's that part. They want the draft capital. I'm assuming the Clippers don't want to give up any. This is just perplexing to me.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. And this isn't quite what the Clippers were doing kicking ass recently, but the Cavs have been playing a lot better recently. They're in a good flow. So it would be odd to add James Harden. I start looking at that and I say I understand. Darius Garland's toes are not right. He's not right. But I just find it hard to put it all together that the Cavs would actually make this deal happen. I started to look at the Houston Rocket situation. Maybe it's because I was watching them in the fourth quarter and how they're just playing free throw basketball. Essentially. They just need to go get offensive glass. They need a point gu. Now it all comes down to whether Fred Vanvili is available to play later this season because they're going to go with that rock. IME Udoka is going to roll with that guy. He is more than just a point guard. He is their coach on the floor. Essentially. He would be fantastic. I went to the Fred Van Vliet podcast, have you hinted at possibly coming back? He hasn't. That has nothing to do with anything. What really has to do with is Fred Van Vliet's health. He also has veto power over the potential to leave. So I start doing deals there and if they know that Fred's not available, maybe, maybe there's a deal there. There's tons of deals that work. Fred Van Vliet and Steven Adams work. You want two injured guys, there you go. Simple as that. Adams, Dorian, Finney Smith and Jabari Smith work. Fred Van Veet plus Capella plus Tar Eason plus Jayshawn Tate works. There's lots of deals that could work, but even there, I don't know why they would move on from Fred Van Vliet unless, unless they know that there's no chance he's coming back. Bring Harden and Durant together again. What a world this is. This is so, so, so strange. Yeah, the Cat and the Cavs just set this up in some people's minds with their tiny little deal that they did to go get Dennis Schroeder and Keon Ellis, like moving on for money there to set up something else. But now they're, you know, getting another guard. If this was the case, they have 6,000 point guards to essentially play with. Odd. This whole thing is odd.

[Je Skeets]

And then Darius Garland, in theory going to the Clippers, obviously young talent, 10 years younger than James Harden. Maybe that makes sense. Again, guy can't stay healthy, which is a real knock on him. But he has signed through 20, 27, 28, and doesn't that run counter to all we've been hearing about the Clippers wanting to keep cap space past 26, 27. We've heard that time and time again. So that counterintuitive to me. But then maybe they're just like, well, he is a good all star level player, not even in his prime yet. And if we can get off of a guy who sure sounds like he wants to be moved because we know we're not going to pay him and he knows that, then we can get something in return. So I can't imagine though, they would want to be attaching these future first round picks.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

That seems worse to me than that's.

[Je Skeets]

A hell of a stretch.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I mean, having Garland under contract in 2728 isn't that big of a deal. The only other guy under contract would be Zubots at that point, so they would still have a ton of cap space and at least then they would have the nucleus of a team pick and roll guard in Garland and a pick and roll big in Zubots. Like you can see how that actually is maybe more enticing than having just Zubots under contract. I also have to imagine that Harden's next deal won't be all that more expensive than Garland is signed for. So probably a wash for the Cavs at that stat at that point as well. But man, I wouldn't trade the picks. That would be the thing I would be the most worried about if I'm the Clippers. But clearly they don't care about picks, so they just want to sign guys.

[Je Skeets]

I wonder your thoughts on the timing of this all. Like task got us started here because that it is strange. Out of nowhere suddenly the personal matters, the personal reasons he's not around the team. And then we get this just days before this deadlight. Like why now? Because it's not like he's been eligible for an extension from the Clippers. It's just what's your thinking on this? Or conspiracy theory on this?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

He knows the Clippers are toast, so he's getting out.

[Je Skeets]

But it's so funny. Like the toast, like when they were 6 and 21.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

That wasn't the trade deadline.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, I get. Yeah, that's what I'm. That's. But you can always still ask for a trade. That's so weird to me.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

But you know, deadlines make people work harder. So if you do it a couple of days ahead of time, you're going to get a deal done. And it's not like the Clippers are going to do anything this year. Best case scenario, they get into the play in tournament, win their way to number eight and have to get smoked by the Thunder in the first round.

[Je Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. You know, you could be optimistic and say they're going to be in the playoffs and lose, you know, more than the play.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Tas Millis]

More than the play. And yeah, especially. But I understand this whole idea of timing now there are reports that this has been happening for weeks in terms of behind the scenes. While Lawrence Frank was signing his four year extension, he was also talking to other teams.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah, he just got an extension.

[Tas Millis]

There's so much happening there.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Maybe that's why. Maybe Harden's like, I gotta deal with this guy for another four years.

[Je Skeets]

He doesn't like Lord's friend.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. Oh, what a strange scenario. Yeah, it's so strange for the Cavs. I understand Garland hasn't been a lead in the playoffs. I understand he has been hurt this year. A couple years ago, he was also banged up. He did play a lot of games the year in between last season. But you're taking your chance on James Harden.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I mean, Harden's a better player than Garland is. That's the main thing Andy plays.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. Yes. I know you're rolling with a 37 year old. I mean, he'll be 37 soon rather than Garland to give him a shot again because they're playing better, too. And I know Garland's been in and out of the lineup. Just totally odd there.

[Je Skeets]

There's no doubt that Cleveland is still trying to like, shed salary here to, like, get out of the second apron. But that's probably going to be Lonzo Ball, right?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

He effectively serves as an expiring deal. He'll likely be moved to a team with cap space. Maybe he goes to the Hornets and teams up with his brother there just to join the Rockets.

[Tas Millis]

That makes sense with Schroeder there. Yes. Yeah, that's what makes sense.

[Je Skeets]

But maybe James Harden in Cleveland. Maybe James Harden somewhere else. Like, I think he fits a lot better with the Rockets. Like, I think they could cover for him on the defensive end a lot more than Cleveland could.

[Tas Millis]

So.

[Je Skeets]

But yeah, you got to trade Van Vliet to do that basically. And he has the power to say, I don't want to do that. I like to hear more. And maybe there's another team that gets in the mix here. James Harden back on the trade block.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I love it. How many emergency podcasts have we done for Harden?

[Tas Millis]

I remember sitting at this table when he got traded from Brooklyn to Philly. Definitely did one there.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Philly to LA as well.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, I guess.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah, we probably did one from Houston to Brooklyn.

[Je Skeets]

Oh, yeah, that's awesome. Three is three. At least we've done emergency sort of podcast.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I mean, him and Duran, I guess we've done a few for as well.

[Je Skeets]

Those are our guys.

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[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Thank you so much. Thank you so much to James Harden. It's weird to imagine him, though, playing in Cleveland.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

He's only been in glamour markets since leaving okc and Cleveland isn't glamorous.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, yeah. It can't really picture him even in the jerseys. And they have a million jerseys, but tough to see even him beside Mitchell is a weird, just like thought experiment.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Jake's hardening a cream sickle calves jersey. Delicious.

[Je Skeets]

All right, let's move on.

[Tas Millis]

Houston is a glamour franchise to you.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

It's one of the biggest titles and they're like market.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. All right.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

It's a huge city.

[Tas Millis]

That's huge. It's, I don't know, the fourth biggest in this country that I wear the stars for. It ain't.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

It ain't la. And New York, well, it's bigger than everything else except for Chicago.

[Tas Millis]

It's big.

[Je Skeets]

And you know, does Cleveland seem like the type of city James Harden's going to flourish in?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

They have a casino.

[Je Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

They have strip clubs. So.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, I don't know. J.R. smith once upon a time said, no, it's actually great here because there's nothing to do.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, exactly.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah. No, no, no, not exactly. Because James Harden's power comes from the strip clubs and the casinos and the partying. You have it backwards.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

That'd be great on the road.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

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Fair enough.

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[Je Skeets]

Put a pin in James Harden News for now. Shams also reported yesterday that the Milwaukee Bucks have begun sending counter offers to teams aggressively pursuing a trade for Giannis ahead of this week's deadline. So four teams have really emerged here. Though there are other teams maybe getting in on the fun if they're a third or fourth team. But the Miami Heat, the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Golden State warriors and the New York Knicks are among the teams strongly interested in the Greek freak. Again, that's from Shams. Milwaukee is seeking either a blue chip talent and or significant package of draft picks in return for Giannis. So we've talked a lot about the Warriors. That hypothetical deal would be centered around a lot of picks, a hell of a lot of picks. The Heat, they got the combination right of maybe more young players. Maybe the young prospect is Khalil Ware. Tyler Hero, what your depends on your opinion of him. And then they have picks too. The Knicks is very confusing because it's like they'd have to just do so many other things and get so many other teams involved. But let's talk a little bit about the Wolves because they, like the Knicks, don't have draft capital. So they would have to probably go get third and fourth teams to get that sort of stuff included. And then you can get into the players that would go out. But what do you think about the Wolves suddenly throwing their name into the Giannis sweepstakes here?

[Tas Millis]

I think Tim Connolly is always making calls. He's always been an aggressive front office conductor. He just always has and he's done a great job with Denver. So I think that's what it all stems down to. It comes down to. And listen, it's Monday night on trade deadline week and you just got to talk about something. I think that's what it comes down to. I don't know if Minnesota's going to be the team. It doesn't feel right. It just feels like we're spurring some conversation about where Giannis is going to land essentially. I don't know if the warriors pick or, excuse me, the warriors package can be beat. But I'm not sure if the warriors want to do that right here, right now either. I mean, that deal would be Butler, Kaminga and those picks that we're talking about. But are they going for the championship here with Curry, Giannis and I leave a huge blank because the third, the third player is Brandon Pajemski or do they, are they smarter and just wait for the offseason where they may know that Jimmy's coming back next season. They may be offered offer something even bigger just like the Bucs may be able to get something bigger. So I think this is all, this is all chatter. I don't, I don't see the Wolves getting there to what the warriors can really offer.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I was surprised to see the Wolves getting so much buzz because they have to do so much to even really get into the mix for it. But according to Sam Amick over at the Athletic, if they're willing to include Jaden McDaniels, that puts them in the lead for getting Giannis. But also, wouldn't every other team in the league realize that if we're getting involved in this trade, we're helping the Warrior, helping the Wolves get Giannis? Yeah, yeah. So that's odd to me. But you read Sean's report and it says the talks have started to progress, the Bucks are actively engaging. So I'm like, oh, this is going to happen. And then you read a bond temps and wind Horse report and they're like, it's probably not going to happen until the summer. So it's really hard to figure out what's going down. I lean towards it's going to happen. Just so much buzz right now and so many teams chasing that somebody is going to be willing to. It's not an overpay because this is Giannis we're talking about, but somebody's going to be willing to do everything to get Giannis. And if that happens, I think it just makes more sense for the team to be done with a year long trade saga.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

As far as the, the warriors team here, if it's Giannis Curry and Brandon Pajemski and Moses Moody and the Anthony Melton and Al Horford and Quentin Post and Buddy Heald that they're running forward with this postseason. You think they can win with that?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I like their chance conference finals at least. And then they got a chance. Who knows what happens by then.

[Tas Millis]

So, yeah, that's the front office. That's Mike Dunleavy saying, all right, our future's done. We're going for it right here, right now.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Their future's done. Yeah, they don't really have much of a future when Curry's gone, so getting Giannis would be good for the future, I think.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, in part, yeah. But if it's costing every single one.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Of their draft picks, I think they should trade those draft picks regardless. I think they should have been aggressive trading these picks even before Giannis was on the table.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, they sort of help Steph Curry.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

They have said though, that they, you know, of course they're going to say this because they didn't do anything with them. But, like, we've kept all of these draft picks, these future draft picks and pick swaps because we're waiting for someone like Giannis to come available that then we can come over the top and really wow a team and get him. So that's why warriors fans are like, okay, you've been saying you've been saving them for this. Curry's still elite, so do it. I know ESPN had a hypothetical trade where the warriors would get Giannis and Miles Turner and it would take Jimmy Butler the third, even though Mike Dunleavy says we're not trading Jimmy Butler III, Kaminga Pojemski and then three or four first round picks and then like the 2031 pick swap there. So a lot of draft capital and then maybe Pojemski goes out and you get your big interner. That's another one.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, that makes more sense, that one with the third team being the Raptors getting involved. I didn't like that ESPN offer at all. How does that make any sense for the Raptors to get Jaden McDaniels but have to give up two first round picks and RJ Barrett? What?

[Je Skeets]

Well, they got Cole Anthony out of it, too.

[Tas Millis]

Cole Anthony has not been able to play this year yet. That's been very confusing. Or maybe the Milwaukee Bucks are able to turn their one draft pick into a good player and they keep Giannis. It's not dead. It's not dead.

[Je Skeets]

I'm just saying everybody agrees with you that it happens. Maybe in the summer, Giannis traded, but you're now still holding on to hope that Giannis is a buck for life.

[Tas Millis]

It's not likely. Anything's an opt. James Harden just demanded a trade from a team that was 15, three in their last 18. Anything can happen. I mean, Luka Doncic got traded a year and a day ago. Anything can happen.

[Je Skeets]

The Heat package, which we've talked about before, the Heat get Giannis, and again, maybe this was Pat Riley pumping the brakes on any sort of John Morant deal because, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, maybe we can get Giannis. What would it take? Tyler Herro could take Terry Rozier's contract. We think now he's getting paid that $26 million. In theory, it could be dealt. I think Khalil Ware, like I said, as sort of like the prize young prospect. 2029, 2031 first round picks and then a 2030 swap. Though we just come back to. If you wait until the summer, more draft capital could be included. And that's why the Bucs, you know, they have all these reasons just to wait. Like, sure, make all these calls, make all these counteroffers, but, like, still, you just can do more things in the summer, and you probably get more in the summer after teams disappoint in the playoffs and after there's more picks involved, and it's just easier to make these deals. So we will see. But you think it happens. Yeah. All right. Do you think it's the warriors or the Heat?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah, I do, because I think, like you're saying and, like, has been reported during the summer, it becomes a lot easier for other teams to get involved, which means that for the warriors in the Heat right now, it's on them to put everything they have into the deal. And I think if that's the case, I think the Bucs could say yes. And, I mean, I'm not the biggest Khalil Ware fan, but if the Heat were willing to put him on the table, like, he's the best young blue chip talent that's been talked about in any of these sort of things. Though I do love the idea of Draymond getting traded to the Bucks and then declining his player option for next season and just going back to the.

[Je Skeets]

Warriors after the year.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

That would be hilarious if that happens.

[Je Skeets]

And then we're hearing Damian Lillard's trying to recruit Giannis to the Blazers.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

People are saying it went so well the first time.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah. Do it out west, though. We weren't on the west coast, so.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah, we're come here. Where it's way harder.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah. To win. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

And we have a worse team.

[Je Skeets]

You still think this is a summer deal? Because really, we're now at the point, does this happen on Thursday or does it happen in June? I mean, and maybe Tash is the lone person in the world.

[Tas Millis]

I'm throwing it out there.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

Because I think that was the idea from the beginning of the season for John Horse and the Bucks front office, because they want to look forward for the Milwaukee Bucks organization. I get that. And that's why I think it doesn't happen until the summer, because they can get more back for Giannis. There will be more teams involved. And so I think that's. That's where we're headed here.

[Je Skeets]

Okay, let's hear from the people in the stream team. Thursday or June. Let's get the poll going.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I think Wednesday night.

[Je Skeets]

Okay. Okay.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Just to be specific, emergency pod Wednesday night.

[Je Skeets]

Okay. Make sure you're not doing anything. Anybody go and see movie on A Wednesday night? No.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

No.

[Je Skeets]

What about you? Birthday parties? Nothing. No good?

[Tas Millis]

No.

[Je Skeets]

All right, I'll see you.

[Tas Millis]

But I guess we got to stay up late.

[Je Skeets]

All right. That's the call.

[Tas Millis]

Night. What does night qualify as? It seems like stuff is happening at, like, midnight, you know?

[Je Skeets]

Yeah. Most of the time. If it doesn't happen before 11pm Eastern, I'll see you in the morning. Anything before that, I'll see you in.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

The yard from 11 to 1am I will see you in the shed.

[Je Skeets]

There you go.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

All right.

[Je Skeets]

We had some basketball last night. One really fun game was the Hornets coming back from 22 to beat the Pelicans to extend their win streak to seven straight. That's right. Charlotte Hornets are so hot right now. Did have a scary moment early in the game which will show everybody on YouTube. LaMelo Ball collided with his head coach, Charles Lee, as he tried to chase down an errant pass out of bounds. And Lee went for the ball, too, and they just smoked heads. I've watched this clip like 50 times, and I wince every single time. Lamelo did sort of leave the game, got the cut fixed up, came back and then had a great game. And like I said, the Hornets came back to get the victory here.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, And Charles Lee getting in the way from Lamelo ball, saving the ball. That would have been a great save. It sure felt like Lamelo had a chance at that. But he came back pretty soon after. He handled it well. Then going into the second half, they were down double digits. And LaMelo started shooting those threes early in the second half, and they were off. I thought, well, maybe he's not right. Maybe something going on there. But he was playing through it, and the Hornets played through it. Brandon Miller just lit up. He was going off. He had the concert going. Musa Di Abate grabbing boards, the crowd going moose. And they got them into the game. And then the second unit came on, everybody helping out. I mean, the Cal Brenner defense, everything going perfectly for them. And then Lamelo took it to the rim a little bit, hit those two shots early in the fourth quarter. Knipple making things happen. So they got it all done. They got it done in just a second half. Big fight. Big, big second half for them.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah. Defensively showed up in the second half in a game they couldn't hit threes to sort of save their life. There wasn't too many made, though. Grant Williams did hit two sort of timely ones. I thought Grant Williams was the best game for him since coming back from injury. I think it's been good for them since coming back. Yep.

[Tas Millis]

But you're hanging in the air. Do you see that time he was hanging in the air and made. Made a pass. I didn't see that happening at all.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

My first takeaway is that Lamelo needs to play in a cage. He stepped on fans feet multiple times, injured his ankles and was out for huge chunks of last season. And now he's running into his own coach. Get this guy some fencing.

[Je Skeets]

That was. Hold on. That was all on Charles Lee.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

Don't be.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

But if he's. If he's behind a fence it would have never happened. Okay, so we need to, we need to get the cagers back out there. I did like Lamelo cooking switches in the fourth quarter. I think part of the reason he's able to get to the rim is because he chucks so many threes. 3 for 14 but 5 for 6 inside the lane. They took the lead on that big time dunk he had. That was awesome. Also I thought this was good from Eric Collins on the broadcast. He said it's going to be a Hornets party tomorrow. Eastern Conference coast of the Month Charles Lee Eastern Conference player of the month Take your pick. Eastern Conference Rookie of the Month Con caniple I think he's probably right. They will get rookie rookie for sure. They will get coach for sure. Player of the month, Take your pick. Who's the player? Which player you're picking from the Hornets?

[Je Skeets]

You think it goes to a Hornet player?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Why would they not just decide to honor him for having a great month?

[Je Skeets]

Because there's probably better months.

[Tas Millis]

But it's Brandon for me.

[Je Skeets]

Probably Brandon. Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

Brandon.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah. 22, 5 and 3 for Brandon Miller in the month of January. Plus 11 points per 100 possessions. Lamelo 174 and 7 and Khan 186 and 4th.

[Tas Millis]

They're all good.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

But I do think the reason that the Hornets have taken a step forward is that Brandon Miller has taken a step forward as well. His handle is better. He's most importantly able to stay on the court right now. But he gets to his spots and he's able to be a really good shooter. Only went 7 of 21 last night, but made some big plays I thought in the second half and the Hornets won a game in which they didn't play all that well. I think that's pretty important. You know, part of it is that the Pelicans love to blow a lead and maybe part of the reason there was such a a slow start for the Hornets is because they never know when they're Playing, you know, like they're gonna change the start times of all of their games right now. Dell Curry, the Pelicans hit a three, and Del Curry says first triple of the night or evening? Afternoon. That was pretty funny.

[Je Skeets]

I was like, these guys are, like.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Very confused about the time of day, so understandable that they would start slowly. But you can tell the Hornets are clicking right now, and they've got a lot of faith that if they play their style of basketball, it's going to work out in the end.

[Tas Millis]

Broadcasters should just say the X of the game, first three of the game instead of saying of the night. You know, it's just. It doesn't work out a lot of time. I think even Eric Collins, the great Eric Collins. He's great.

[Je Skeets]

I think he.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, he had some rough moments yesterday. He said Ryan Kalkbrenner growing the mutton chops because he. Because he kind of looks like he does have sideburns, but it's just his beard that doesn't. Doesn't really fill in, so it just looks a little sparse.

[Je Skeets]

What about Pat Connaughton's dye job? Guess he lost a fantasy football league and that was the.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

That's what it was.

[Je Skeets]

That's what I read. Yeah, I. I noticed. Oh, I know. And I noticed it during the game and I was like, how long has he had that? Did I miss this? And then it's like, no, it's recent. It's a bad, bad job. Yeah, that's a good punishment.

[Tas Millis]

Just because it's not full on blonde.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, it's like a weird color. It's very brassy. Yeah, it doesn't work on him. My only other notes from this, I just love Musa Diabate, man. I sort of love how he plays. I love how hard he sprints down the floor right to the middle of the paint. And it's a small thing and it's obviously something most big should do, but, like, not a lot of them do it in this league because obviously you got to, like, put a little effort into it. And it just opens up things for other guys, like just having a scream to the front of the rim collapses the defense. They just naturally come in because you want to take that away. And it opens up some of these three point shooters. A couple times that worked in their favor when they were sort of in semi transition. So I love that. And then Kalkbrenner did have a good game, too. It's sort of like this crazy mix of Diabate as a smaller center and even C on James sort of playing the center position at times. And then the big, big Calc Brenner was just monster of a dude.

[Tas Millis]

He's a huge guy.

[Je Skeets]

He's got the biggest T shirt on underneath that jersey. Go. And man, holy crap, it's going past his elbows. So it's working this sort of. You have both options here for Charles Lee.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, it is phenomenal. It's phenomenal to hear the crowd yell moose anytime Musa Diabate does anything. But yeah, Cal Brenner literally being able to alter Zion Williamson flying at the rim like calcbrenner is a huge. Along with Ceon James there's. Yeah, they got the Fighters in that second unit along with Grant Williams. They got the Fighters and the scoring Colin Sexton. It's all led by their stars and their stars are now Brandon Miller, which is odd to say but he looks so good when he's playing basketball.

[Je Skeets]

He's an underrated, super sweaty guy. Brandon Miller. Check that out.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, rated higher.

[Je Skeets]

Oh man. Super, super sweaty. Yeah, they're clicking right now. Now it's going to get a lot more difficult. The Hornets next six games, sort of a weird schedule. Rockets, Hawks, Pistons. Hawks, Rockets, Cavs. Okay, tough. So the two Hawks games, those are interesting because they're obviously chasing them down in the play in and then some really good teams. Like I said, the Rockets twice, the Pistons, the Cavs. So you know, good thing you got this seven game win streak and see how, how long you keep it going. But this, I mean I think they're losing one one of these games in this bunch. These are some good teams. Other games last night, Shen Goon scored 39 to help overcome the Rockets missing Kevin Durant. They just beat the Pacers 118. 114. Grizzly snapped a six game losing streak with a win over the Timberwolves. Maybe all those trade rumors got in their heads. And then Maxi scored 29. He had a bunch of threes. 76ers beat the clips. Any notes?

[Tas Millis]

Well, watching that Rockets Pacers game was, was hard in that fourth quarter after Sengun got into it with Benedict Matheran there. They had a little, little push off a little double Tech the refs or was they were whistling everything. They just didn't want to get it, let it get out of control. The Rocket shot 20 free throws in the fourth quarter. That's a lot of free throws and had so many. Anytime Sengun went down, I mean he had a little lefty hook where he fell and they said oh yeah, that's a foul. It was not A foul. They, they just missed plenty of calls. They were overblowing it. And the Pacers, you know, had to throw so many different centers at Shangun. They threw three of them at Huff, Isaiah Jackson, Micah Potter, who forced a miss and yelled let's go. You could hear him on the mic. They tried to go at him. But the Rockets, they always go, you know, despite not having Kevin Durant and without Fred Van Vliet, you could see it. I mean, they just need to go grab their misses. And they grabbed 19 of them. They grabbed and had 29 second chance points off those 19 offensive rebounds. And that was the story. But Pacers fought hard. They fought hard. But it was a battle in that fourth quarter that was kind of hard to watch. I don't know how long the time time spent. Forever. It took a long time. Forever. That fourth queue must have been 40 minutes, I guess. I don't know.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah, 13 fouls for the Pacers centers. And I have to imagine they were all on trying to guard Shen Goon because he was just putting them in the basket every single time. It was like watching Charles Barkley in the 90s. He was posting up on the wing. All four other teammates were standing on the other side. They're just like sengun, push him underneath the hoop until you can shoot a hook shot. We just talked about Jared Allen having a 40 point game and dribbling 10 times. I think Shen was taking a minimum of 10 dribbles every single time he touched the ball. With no KD out there, man, he is clunking up the offense, but it was working and he played tough. And when he feels he has a strength advantage, you can really feel it out there. So fun game to watch. Sort of if you liked basketball in the 90s.

[Je Skeets]

It was fun.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Huff got into foul trouble obviously, so they started going to other guys. And Isaiah Jackson was foul playing him. Well, I mean, he poked him late. What was it like 45 seconds left. That was a nice poke. That was a nice rip. So they're, they're, they're playing hard. It's fun to watch Pacers games at home as well. I mean, they, they scrapped right till the last whistle.

[Je Skeets]

Yep. And then any other notes on, on the Grizzlies win or the Clippers losing to the Sixers there at home?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah, Clippers seem to be affected by the hardened surprise trade request out of nowhere. 18 to 2 start for the Sixers in this one. Clippers never got it under 10 points and it looked like bad Clippers from The beginning of the season, Philadelphia had 14 offensive rebounds, 28 second chance points, and scored 22 points off of turnover. So 2, 0, I guess for Philadelphia with Paul George being suspended. We'll talk about Barlow later. He was awesome in this one. So that was just a good win for the, for the Sixers. The other thing I noticed in this one is at the end of the first half, Embiid gets the ball inbounded to him at like the opposing free throw line, just turns and chucks the ball. He threw it so far. He threw it over the shot clock past the stanchion. The mop guy underneath was like ducking out of the way because he was so scared. It's worth going back and seeing just how far he chucks this thing. I mean, there's like 0.7 seconds left, so he ain't gonna make it. But because of the new heave rules, he at least let it fly.

[Julian Edelman]

And.

[Tas Millis]

Whoa.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Just hauled off. Man. That was crazy.

[Je Skeets]

Might need a cage installed. Yeah, cage them all up.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

All right.

[Tas Millis]

One other thing to know from that game. Quentin Grimes, dunk on John Collins. Oh, man, that's nice. Yeah, John Collins is going to have some nice tape of getting dunked on when it's all said done, if he's.

[Je Skeets]

Cool with it a lot.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, yeah. Anthony Edwards, the monster on him along with Quentin Grimes. It's got to be some other ones as well.

[Je Skeets]

All right, we're going to take a break and when we come back, we're going to draft the two American all star team rosters.

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[Je Skeets]

It'S the last call for football on FanDuel. One final Sunday, one last kickoff. The final chance to place your bets before the NFL season closes its tab. This is Super Bowl 60. Sorry, this is super bowl backwards. Big shirt.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah, it is.

[Je Skeets]

It hasn't caught on yet. I was checking X to see if it was trending. Not yet.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

We gotta wait for Radio Row.

[Je Skeets]

I thought they're on radio row.

[Tas Millis]

Oh, man.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Somebody tell them.

[Je Skeets]

Come on, Mina Kaim, start pushing. This is super bowl backwards. Big shirt. See what happens. Fanduel is making sure you're in on it. And I got three prop bets for you guys from a guy that barely watches NFL football.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Let's go.

[Je Skeets]

All right, first one, the team that scores last wins the game. I'm going with no at plus 160.

[Tas Millis]

Okay.

[Je Skeets]

Okay. So there's gonna be some sort of lead here, obviously, and then the team trailing is gonna score, and that's never gonna be enough. They're never gonna get back into it. Okay. Will there be a defensive special teams touchdown? I'm going with yes. Plus 235.

[Tas Millis]

Great odds.

[Je Skeets]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody's pick. Six to the house.

[Julian Edelman]

Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

Is that what they say? Is that a six to the house?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

You can say that.

[Je Skeets]

Okay, good. Say that. All right, final one. Total individual scorers. The line is set at four and a half. Give me the over at plus 100. I got five different people scoring a touchdown.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Field goal doesn't count.

[Tas Millis]

Count.

[Je Skeets]

Field goal doesn't. Okay, I'm with you. Yeah, but that. I mean, it sounds like a lot, but then, you know, you just gotta spread it out a little bit.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

You gotta spread out a little bit.

[Je Skeets]

So I'm taking it over.

[Tas Millis]

A lot of nerves in the first quarter. No one ever scores in the first quarter.

[Je Skeets]

Oh, is that true?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, basically.

[Je Skeets]

Okay, so those are my three bets.

[Tas Millis]

All right. Good luck.

[Je Skeets]

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[Trey Kirby Ayo]

How do they do that?

[Je Skeets]

NBC says the three rosters for the All Star Game will be announced tonight, but as always, no dunk's going to beat them to the punch. So we're going to draft those American teams in a second. But just before we went live, the jerseys were shared on social media. We'll show them to everybody on YouTube. Here they are. We got two USA jerseys. Of course, I was right. Stars on the red jersey, stripes on the blue one for the Team USAs, and then the Team World All Stars got the. Got the white joints there. Yeah, Yeah. I actually don't mind these.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah, I like the font. I like the All Stars font. And I also think that the world one looks eerily like a Slovenian national team jersey.

[Je Skeets]

It does a lot. Those sort of are the colors there. Yes.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

And if I'm not mistaken, Luka Doncic is a Jordan brand endorser.

[Je Skeets]

You are right.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

They would pick his team's colors. That's unusual to me.

[Je Skeets]

I think there's a report, too, or whatever the news is. This isn't a surprise. They will have, like, your flag will be on the back of your jersey, sort of where your nameplate is or above it. So that's cool. Nice little touch. What do you think of these? Like them?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, I think they're solid. Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

I mean, we've seen some shitty ones over the last couple seasons where they've been just downright boring. I can't even remember them well. They're just like. Like, I can. They were. We. We. We were thumbs down on a lot of them. I think these ones are more like.

[Tas Millis]

All right.

[Je Skeets]

At least there's a little flair here.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

The red ones look really good.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, yeah, they pop.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Okay. They look like a Team USA jersey. We also got some news here from Shams.

[Je Skeets]

Oh, boy.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Detroit Pistons first time all Star Jalen Duran has accepted an invitation to participate in the 2026 NBA Slam Dunk Contest.

[Je Skeets]

We got another big guy. Another big boy. We got two big boys, Duran and Hayes.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yes.

[Je Skeets]

And then we got Carter Bryant, who's not even really that small either. You know, he's a beefy six, six, six, seven guy. Yeah. Okay.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. We need a smally.

[Je Skeets]

We need a smally.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Bronnie. Come on.

[Je Skeets]

Come on, bronnie.

[Tas Millis]

I mean, my heart. My heart said as soon as you said it. Excited. Jalen Duran. Awesome.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

You know, young player, promising. Then you get a little tiny bit worried about the size.

[Je Skeets]

Respect.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. He's going.

[Je Skeets]

Always respect to these guys, especially if you're an All Star level.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

He's an all star.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah. Come on. That should count for something.

[Tas Millis]

So we respected Jaylen Brown when he went in.

[Je Skeets]

Hell, yeah. Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

You know, because he was the biggest name.

[Je Skeets]

This is good.

[Tas Millis]

But we do need a small league.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I agree.

[Je Skeets]

We need a high flyer. Not that these guys can't jump.

[Tas Millis]

No, they can't.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

But I'm gonna Move Duran up, though, on my draft board just because of this.

[Je Skeets]

Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, he is an American, so he will be drafting her. Okay, so we know that Tas is gonna be team Stars, because you got the stars on here, and you're gonna be team Stripes, because you got some stripes on and you got the American colors. I love it. But we need to decide who's gonna draft first. So I've got a trivia question for you guys, and it's got to do with the Winter Olympics. And hopefully this is one where we can sort of go back and forth, a process of elimination, until one man, either stars or stripes, can no longer answer. Guys, can you name the most decorated nations in Winter Olympic Games history? So I'm looking For the top 10 highest total medal counts. Okay. Okay, hold on. I'm gonna give you two of them in advance because it's sort of like, you know, could be confusing. The Soviet Union is sixth, and Russia ranks 10th, so we can just take those two off the board of the top 10 most medals in Winter Olympic Games history. Tas, we'll start with you, and we'll just go back and forth on the list here until somebody can't name one or gets one incorrect. Tas, have a go.

[Tas Millis]

China.

[Je Skeets]

Nope.

[Tas Millis]

Nope.

[Je Skeets]

It's over.

[Tas Millis]

Okay. I thought they impressed enough to be in the top 10. Yeah, you don't need them.

[Je Skeets]

I spent. I spent, like, 20 minutes planning all this. It's over in 10 seconds.

[Tas Millis]

Why do you need 20 minutes to type in top 10 Olympic Winter Olympics?

[Je Skeets]

You, man. I want to make things interesting. Use a ch. Actually not a bad pick, but. But a little surprising. No. But why?

[Tas Millis]

No, my question is, why does it take 10 minutes to.

[Je Skeets]

Oh, Tass. I'm exaggerating. It took a little bit of time to put in my notes the top ten teams. Oh, here.

[Tas Millis]

I joke.

[Je Skeets]

Top ten nations.

[Tas Millis]

Norway.

[Je Skeets]

United States. Germany. Austria. Canada.

[Tas Millis]

Norway.

[Je Skeets]

I'm just giving always the first pick to you here, Trey. Do you guys want to do. Yeah. The answer is Norway. For those that were maybe hoping to.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Play along, I was going usa.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

That would have been second.

[Tas Millis]

Second. Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

All right, You. You keep going.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

You.

[Je Skeets]

He already saw you keep listing some. Trey.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I would have said Norway.

[Je Skeets]

Okay. Okay.

[Tas Millis]

One, two.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I also would have Sweden up there.

[Je Skeets]

Yes. Seventh.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Give me. Give me a Germany.

[Je Skeets]

Yes.

[Tas Millis]

Third.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Give me.

[Je Skeets]

Finland. No.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Okay, so Canada. Canada.

[Je Skeets]

This was a tough one. Austria's fourth overall.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Okay, that's tough.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. Yeah, I just said that. Nobody's listening.

[Je Skeets]

And then Switzerland and then Netherlands. You should try Saying it first next time would have got it. Okay, so has the number one pick. Do you want to do just one? Two? One, two. Okay. Okay. So everybody, on YouTube, we will show you the USA All Stars Pool. I have crossed out all the international guys, but for people listening to the podcast, I think it would make more sense or at least be easier to follow. You guys got to draft first from the starters. Okay, okay, okay. So your starters, you only got one in the West, Steph Curry. And then you got four in the East. Jalen Brown, Jalen Brunson, Cade Cunningham, and Tyrese Maxey. TK Got the first pick here. We're drafting Americans, Team stripes. Who are you taking number one overall?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Okay. People said this was a snub for our 20th anniversary squad draft that we did. Give me Stephy Curry. I gotta go.

[Je Skeets]

Curry.

[Tas Millis]

What was.

[Je Skeets]

What was the snub?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I remember. Remember that guy outside of the warriors stadium?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

They're saying he could have been drafted for best musical moment.

[Tas Millis]

Oh, he could have. Yeah. It's memory.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Could have been drafted, but he's on my. Stephen Curry is on my team.

[Je Skeets]

Okay. I love it. I love it. Congratulations. Steph Curry goes number one. Not a surprise task. You got a bunch of Eastern Conference guys. Where are you going?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, it's Jalen Brown, Jalen Bronson, Cade Cunningham, and Tyrese Maxey. And that might surprise some. I'm taking Tyrese Maxey. I want. I want a speedy guy.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

How dare you do that?

[Tas Millis]

If this is about effort, I want the speedy guy.

[Je Skeets]

Okay, Okay. A bit of a swerve, I think, but Maxie gone. Back to you, T.K.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Okay.

[Je Skeets]

You take a jail in arcade.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Taking a jail in or a Cade. You're right. My draft board's all messed up because it's not organized by starters. And we got this that's fine document here looking like the Epstein files with everything redacted.

[Tas Millis]

That's crazy.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Give me Cade Cunningham, though.

[Je Skeets]

Okay. Okay. Cade Cunningham goes third overall in our American draft. Steph Curry and Kate. Oh, I like that pairing. All right, Taz, which Jalen are you taking? Jalen Brown or Jalen Brunson?

[Tas Millis]

Which JB it really is the Epstein files. I can see through the redaction. Sorry, Who'd you take? I wasn't listening. Like the ostrich hole.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I was crossing them off.

[Je Skeets]

I'm crossing.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

He's off. J.D.

[Je Skeets]

I didn't even know we had this technology.

[Tas Millis]

I didn't either.

[Je Skeets]

I was messing around. Very good.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. I'm taking Jalen Brown.

[Je Skeets]

Jalen Brown. Okay.

[Tas Millis]

Sorry. Jalen Brunson.

[Je Skeets]

Okay, that's fine. So Jalen Brunson automatically goes to you, Trey. Okay. As the final starter to be selected.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Okay. He was very low on my draft.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, yeah. So. Well, he's on your squad. All right. Unfortunately, we've already broken up the Jailings, too, guys. So there goes my dream of all the Jailings being on one team because there's two more to pick from here. Tass, you have the first pick from the reserves.

[Tas Millis]

Interesting. This is an interesting position. It's the Team America that's going to have Anthony Edwards on. And I'm taking ants.

[Je Skeets]

Oh. Now. Okay.

[Tas Millis]

He's gonna want to show out in the All Star Game a little bit, so.

[Je Skeets]

He never has before.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, he's got to. He's got to at some point. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

He's been. He's embarrassed himself at the All Star Game, I think.

[Tas Millis]

I agree.

[Je Skeets]

And this is interesting, you taking him. Did you see the recent Adidas commercial where his commercial, obviously, where he's basically poking fun at four of the best players in the league, all international guys, if I remember correctly. Right. He's making fun of Wemby Jokic, Luca sga. I think I got.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, that's for international guys.

[Julian Edelman]

Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

So that's fun. You better back it up. You better back it up. All right, all right. So you've got Anthony Edwards off the board as JD Crosses it out. Great stuff, TK where are you going?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I got a lot of guards. Got a lot of guards. Curry, Cade Brunson, give me a tall guy. Kevin Durant, you're on my team.

[Je Skeets]

Oh, Kevin Durant. Yeah. Makes the list here. LeBron James still on the board. Oh, my God. Where are you going?

[Tas Millis]

Tough. Yeah. I don't have faith that LeBron is going to show out. No, no. No disrespect to LeBron. Obviously, the game is his, but, you know, I'm not picking him right now, and I'm not picking based on position. It's a positionless game. Give me Scotty Barnes.

[Je Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Millis]

Just guys.

[Je Skeets]

Homer pick.

[Tas Millis]

Just guys. He's a fantastic defender no matter who he's guarding.

[Je Skeets]

Point guard, defense in the All Star.

[Tas Millis]

Game, at least a tad.

[Je Skeets]

All right. I hope you're right. A little tad bit. Hope you're right, T.K. back to you, LeBron.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Okay.

[Je Skeets]

Takes LeBron. And LeBron backed up.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Curry, KD and LeBron.

[Je Skeets]

Oh, this is really the American shout.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Out to my millennials.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah. Okay.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

The gold medal winning United States Men's national basketball team. The champs. The reigning champs.

[Tas Millis]

It's the golden era of basketball. These guys are old.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

It's always a golden area for the United States.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

Okay, there's seven names left. Tasks where you want to go. Chet Holmgren, Devin Booker. Mitchell. Jalen Johnson. Jalen Duran, Cat or Norm.

[Tas Millis]

We're nearing. We're nearing the 20 year anniversary of Grease beating USA. That was a golden era. Anyway, you know what? I'm gonna. I'm in a Devin Booker kind of mood.

[Je Skeets]

Okay, you got him. You're in a Booker mood. All right. You've got him. He's on your team, Trey.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Okay, second Jalen of the day for me.

[Je Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Jalen Johnson, welcome to the team.

[Je Skeets]

All right. All right. Jalen Johnson. There's only one Jalen left on our board test going in the dunk contest.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Are you gonna let me overload?

[Tas Millis]

You can load up. Load up on that, Jalen. I'm taking Carl. I'm ready to see him. Fire away from three.

[Je Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Millis]

And yes, I'm. I need some height, so you've got.

[Je Skeets]

I'm just doing the. You got three Kentucky guys, too.

[Tas Millis]

Ooh.

[Je Skeets]

Getting the boys together. Maxi. Booker Towns.

[Tas Millis]

They've always wanted to play together.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, that's right. Buddies. That's right.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Best buds.

[Je Skeets]

All right, Trey. Four names left. Donovan Mitchell is left. This guy should have been starting probably for the Eastern Conference.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

He's on my team now.

[Je Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yep.

[Je Skeets]

I mean, that might be the steal of the draft. Him going that team forgotten dunk champion. Yes, he was.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Like, not too long ago, we had something. Skeets, you said, like, you can go into the dunk contest, win it, and become a star. And I was like, when has that ever happened? It hasn't happened in a long time, but Donovan Mitchell kind of did it. I mean, he did win a dunk contest. I don't think it made him into a bigger star, but he became an All Star. I don't know if he was an all star when he was in the dunk contest. When was that, like 18 or something like that? It was a long time ago.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah. Must have been around when he was close to making it, but I don't think he was.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah, I'm not sure.

[Je Skeets]

I'll have to check that.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Welcome to the team.

[Je Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Millis]

To win an All Star mvp, I.

[Je Skeets]

Could see him wanting to get one of those under.

[Tas Millis]

So, yeah, that's a good pick.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

2018 was his dunk contest championship. His first all star game was 2020.

[Je Skeets]

Okay, okay. So he got it. He did help him jump up a level. Powell, Duran, or Holmgren. You like oxtail?

[Tas Millis]

Will Norman Powell even be on Team America? Can't wait to find out. That's what you made me think of when you said oxtail.

[Je Skeets]

I was thinking Chad Holmgren, but no.

[Tas Millis]

I was thinking Jamaica and what they like, what they like to eat. I'm riding with Chet. Give me Chet.

[Je Skeets]

Oh, Trey. Trey had his eye on Chat. Wanted a big.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yep.

[Je Skeets]

Okay. But it goes to TAS and then there's two guys left. So you're leaving one for tas. Who do you take? Norman Powell or Jalen?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Dude, you're getting a norm. Give me jalen duran. 3 of 4 Jalens on the squad.

[Je Skeets]

Nice. You know I like that. Yeah, no, I like that. Okay, we have drafted our stars and stripes, our two American all star teams team task. Let me give it to you. You did have the second pick overall. You went with. You have Tyrese Maxey, Jalen Brown, Anthony Edwards, Scotty Barnes, Devin Booker, Karl Anthony Towns, Chet Holmgren, and Norman Powell. All right, your reaction to your team.

[Tas Millis]

It's all on ant. Really? This is all on it.

[Je Skeets]

Okay, Trey, Stripes, you have.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

You got some OGs on this squad. You got Steph Curry, you got Kate Cunningham, Jalen Brunson, Kevin Durant, LeBron James, Jalen Johnson, Donovan Mitchell, and Jalen Duran. Good looking team. Good looking team. I think on paper a lot of people will be voting for stripes over stars, but we will see and we'll see how it shakes out tonight. We don't. Don't even know how they're doing it. I think they're just dividing it. I don't think they're drafting.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Chop it up.

[Je Skeets]

I think so.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

How about they match each guy up with who they think is their best counterpart and they have to do paper, rock, scissors right before the game. Winners and losers.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, I don't mind.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I mean, like Katie and LeBron. You guys, paper, rock, scissors. Oh, rock. Katie, you win.

[Je Skeets]

When we do pick a poop. Sometimes if we had a lot of guys, we'll do the. All right. Match up with, like, your equivalent out here. I like. I don't mind that idea. That'd be fun just to see, like, who matches who they think they're like, I guess like LeBron and Durant would have to be matched up then, like, I guess who's matching up with Curry.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Ant.

[Je Skeets]

Okay, sure, sure.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Three point shooters.

[Je Skeets]

And then Cade's probably matching up with like a Brunson or a Maxi, I would think. Sure.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

You gotta match up Jalen vs Jalen. Have to split them up.

[Je Skeets]

You're right. You're right. Anyway, that could be a fun way to do it. It. We'll find out tonight how those teams shake out. Thanks for playing and thanks for, like, sort of getting to the trivia after, because I did put a lot of work in China, man. Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

China's surprising.

[Tas Millis]

Listen. Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

American. I mean, summer. Oh, yeah. It might have. I mean, they gotta have. USA would have the most, I assume. Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

Maybe that's why it's in my head as a top, top Olympic team. Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

Lillboy of the Night, sponsored by Zach Hazard. He wants to shout out his Miami, Ohio Redhawks, his alma mater. Zach says they're 220 and ranked for the first time since Wally Zerbak. Hey, Miami, Ohio. It's a school I always hear of.

[Tas Millis]

Do you?

[Je Skeets]

Because I'm always perplexed. Huh. Miami, Ohio. What? I remember when I was younger that was so confusing.

[Tas Millis]

It is weird.

[Je Skeets]

But, yeah, the Redhawks, I think they're still 22 and.

[Tas Millis]

Oh, he said they're 20 and. Oh, I put a lot of work into this. I checked what the record is.

[Je Skeets]

Now they're 22 and. Oh, now.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. Yeah. Because he sent this in when they were 20 and. Oh, but they're still unbeaten and they're still ranked.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, just. They were like. I think they went up a spot in the AP poll. They're like 23rd, maybe.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Okay, got the Buffalo Bulls tonight. Redhawks versus Bulls.

[Je Skeets]

So this team's in the Mac.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

I believe this looks like a Mid American Conference. That's the Mac.

[Je Skeets]

Okay. Okay, great. Good on you. Wally Zerbak. I didn't know he played for them. It's a good little trivia question put in the back of the noggin. When? I don't know, Pierre from numbers on the board asked me, hey, what school do Wally Zerbiak goes to? I'll say Miami, Ohio. Okay. Apologies to Alperin Chengun. He had a monster he game for the rockets. I mean, 39, lot of rebounds. But we're giving last night's woboy to Sixers big man Dominic Barlow, who scored a season, or, excuse me, career high 26 points in Philly's win over the Clips. 10, 16 from the floor, 5 of 5 from the charity Stripes. So just lights out when it came to efficiency. Game high, 16 rebounds. He had two steals, also two assists. He had a block in 35, turnover over three minutes. So. Dominic Barlow, TK. Good old college Skyhawks guy. College Park Skyhawks guy.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah, he was awesome. He was, it looked to me like he was playing harder than everybody else on the entire court. Offensive rebounds, running the floor, doing them dunks.

[Je Skeets]

I mean he should be three pointer.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

From the corner as well. He's got a funky release. Yes, he does got like, he almost like claps his hand when he shoots it.

[Je Skeets]

Hitting it with some consistency though, knocking it down. And he should be because he's a two way guy, right?

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

He should be turned into a permanent contract. I think he will be.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Yeah. He's been good.

[Je Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, it's great to see the guys that we watched in front of us. We keep talking about the last few days in vite. Dominic Barlow.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, we need Kobe Buffkin to go off here. Where's he right now? He's on some. Was he on the Lakers?

[Tas Millis]

He was the Lakers G league. Yeah. But the G league has changed. It's grown so much.

[Je Skeets]

Tonight's pick em. I'm already down one. In February's battle, I've lost nine straight games.

[Tas Millis]

It's amazing.

[Je Skeets]

Can I get it to double digits? Where are we going?

[Tas Millis]

We're going to the game on NBC. Of course. Free basketball over the air, free tv. Got to do it. Boston at Dallas, Big line Dallas. Dallas getting seven and a half points at home. So Boston's gonna win by eight or more. I watched this also at 5am When I was putting this in this morning. It changed. Live changed. Went from eight down to seven and a half. So some money going on the Dallas Mavericks because it's a big line. Skeets and Trey are taking those points. Happy to ride with a lose by seven or less or obviously outright win. While I had to take the Celtics because you guys went in first, we just, we cannot have three of the same pick.

[Je Skeets]

We haven't done it once all season long this season. So I guess it's like just literally an unwritten rule we can't do it. I sort of like it.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

A little variability.

[Je Skeets]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So all right, we got Dallas with some points but you got Celtics win by eight or more on the road, you said on NBC. Of course.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[Je Skeets]

All right. All right. Also when it comes to my pick and payoff that I owe, we have decided I will pay that off during a portion of this Thursday's NBA trade deadline special. The hint for your payoff for everyone will be slop. Okay? Slop, slop. Because we're in slop season right now and there'll be a slop angle to the payoff that I'll do for an hour or two during our super long trade deadline special that we're gonna be on all day starting at 10am Eastern, going all the way through to the buzzer of the deadline at 3pm and probably go past that. So we're just here all day just ripping farts and talking traits.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Eating eggs.

[Je Skeets]

We're eating eggs too.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Let's get like a dozen hard boiled eggs. Why not?

[Je Skeets]

Every time there's a trade, we gotta eat it. Yeah, well, that is not the payoff. I do love eggs, but I don't like hard boiled eggs.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Why?

[Je Skeets]

I don't know. Just taking over easy. A chalky, chalky yolk. And also, you know, my. I don't love cold foods. That's true. So that's part of it. I mean, I'd eat them. I'll eat them in a pinch, but I don't want to.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Okay, yeah, half dozen.

[Je Skeets]

All right, we'll see you tomorrow because we have one more day of slop before we get to the actual trade deadline. So hopefully you'll join us. We'll talk about tonight's games. We're here at 10. Hit the like button. Subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. Till then, Clipper Bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys.

[Trey Kirby Ayo]

Awesome.

[Tas Millis]

Thanks for joining us. And remember, slop stands for a lot of things. Slop season, of course. Or when you're running a sideline out of bounds, play all that slob. Gosh gosh darn it.

[Je Skeets]

Brace the day people.

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