'Jurassic Park III' Rewatch | Jurassic Pals

Summary

No Dunks Podcast: “Jurassic Park III” Rewatch | Jurassic Pals

Date: August 22, 2025
Hosts: Skeets (A), Tas Melas (B), Trey Kirby (C), JD (D)

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Episode Overview

The No Dunks crew continues their Jurassic Pals summer movie rewatch series, diving into the third installment of the Jurassic Park franchise: Jurassic Park III (2001). They recap and roast the movie, debate its place in the series, highlight memorable (and notorious!) moments, and ponder what works, what flops, and why. The conversation is packed with the group's signature humor, sidebars, and deadpan honesty.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Setup and First Impressions

• Budget & Box Office: Released July 18, 2001, with a higher $93 million budget and $369 million global box office, despite “mixed reviews.” (00:55)
• The Skinny: The movie is the “pterodactyl one,” with Dr. Grant tricked into returning to Isla Sorna under false pretenses—a lean 92-minute runtime, “but let's be honest, you can take off like a good 10 minutes of credits.” (00:55)

2. Opening Scene and Suspension of Disbelief

• Parasailing Mishap: Trey immediately flags “the one thing that sticks out: pterodactyl attacks.” (03:08)
• Plot Holes: The gang pokes holes in the logic and CG of the opening:
  • “Ben is holding a camcorder... Where the hell did that come from?” (07:05, A)
  • “No blood. Just a bloodless crime by whatever got them.” (05:03, C)
  • “They just disappear… was it the pterodons? Because the pterodons were still in a cage.” (06:25, D)

3. Character Returns & Fan Service

• Dr. Grant & Dr. Ellie Sattler’s Reunion:
  • “I popped because we see them, there’s kids… wow, they’re together!... Nope.” (12:03, A)
  • “Last of my breed. Bit of a humble brag.” (13:45, A)
  • “What is the right age to teach your kids some dinosaurs rip the other one’s throats out?” (14:31, C)

4. The Frauds and the Plot Twist

• Kirby Enterprises:
  • “Dr. Grant, can never get the money... It takes some bad checks to try and do it.” (11:22, C)
  • “He never even tried to cash it!” (16:44, D)
• Bar Scene & Red Flags:
  • “This is red flag number one for Dr. Grant with this massively wealthy couple taking them to the shittiest bar.” (22:04, D)
  • Much humor in parsing Dr. Grant’s “Ice Pick Catfish,” a drink order that stumps the group and leads to a spread of tangents about bartender nicknames and Montana bars. (21:10-23:36)

5. On the Island – Suspense and Setups

• Plane Scene and Dream Sequence Alan:
  • “I legit laughed out loud at the Dr. Grant Dream park, where he falls asleep... and he’s talking to a velociraptor. ‘Alan.’” (25:01, A)
  • “He’s haunted, man!” (25:08, C)
• Landing and Chaos:
  • “No rules laid down by Dr. Grant. He should lay some rules down.” (31:29, B)
  • Amanda Kirby's “megaphone blunder” is labeled the breaking point for JD: “That’s the end of the movie for me. I cannot handle the stupidity anymore.” (31:25, D)

6. New Dinos, More Action

• Spinosaurus vs. T. Rex:
  • “What is this instinct where you have to be like, we need something bigger and scarier than a T. Rex?” (32:02, D)
  • “We are told the Spinosaurus is real, but felt like they made this one up.” (33:14, A)

7. Morons and Marriages

• The group repeatedly mocks the Kirbys’ intelligence and the family-rekindling subplot:
  • “This little B plot of them rekindling the family… hated every second of it.” (38:23, D)
  • “They just seem like complete morons and I wanted them to stay divorced by the end.” (38:53, D)

8. Resourceful Kids and Survival Tactics

• Eric Kirby’s Survival:
  • “This kid’s amazing. Eight weeks! He’s read the books. He’s resourceful.” (54:16, A, 56:28, C)
  • “Dr. Grant holds up a jar with T. Rex pee: ‘How’d you get it?’ ‘You don’t want to know.’ Yes, I do—absolutely!” (54:34, D)

9. Egg Theft and Raptor Smarts

• Billy’s Betrayal and Flute:
  • Grant finds Billy stole the raptor eggs: “Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions. You’re no better than the people who built this place.” (62:53, C quoting Grant)
  • Later, “Dr. Grant uses the raptor flute to call off a pack and barter for his life.” (79:10, A)

10. Set Pieces and Humor

• Facility Escape and Vending Machines:
  • Amanda’s phone blunder (“didn’t put the phone back”—46:39, D) and the iconic “funny vending machine scene”:
    • “Billy smashes through & eats snacks, Kirby tries and skulks off empty-handed. What am I watching?” (47:35, D)
• The Birdcage Scene:
  • “This is the set piece of the whole movie... Scary enough.” (65:15, D, 67:57, A)
• Piles of Dino Poop & Cell Phone:
  • “They get the satellite phone from the feces of the spinosaurus. Big Dumper.” (72:22, A)
  • “Charlie gets distracted by Barney. Oh, the irony. It’s a dinosaur, guys.” (76:22, D)

11. Action Climax & Wrap-Up

• Nighttime boat/chase sequence:
  • “The spinosaurus just won’t leave them alone. This dude just won't leave them alone!” (76:36, A)
• Rescue, Billy’s Return & Sequel Seeds:
  • Navy and Marines show up for last-minute rescue linked to Dr. Sattler’s husband’s State Dept. role. (84:27, A)
  • Billy “miraculously alive at the end” sparks speculation it was for sequels or due to actor complaints. (86:16, D)
  • Flyby of pteranodons: “I dare them to nest in Enid, Oklahoma. Oh my God, shut up. I hated that line.” (87:45, A)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On the Franchise’s Decline

• “He never even tried to cash it!” (16:44, D)
• “No rules laid down by Dr. Grant. He should lay some rules down.” (31:29, B)

On Character and Plot Absurdity

• “That’s the end of the movie for me. I cannot handle the stupidity anymore.” (31:25, D)
• “All they needed to do was have the raptors drag Udeski off. Nope, snap his neck and move on.” (53:41, A)
• “This little B plot of them rekindling the family… hated every second of it.” (38:23, D)

On Iconic & Absurd Moments

• “I legit laughed out loud at the Dr. Grant Dream park [sequence]… ‘Alan’… It was so pointless, too.” (25:01, A)
• “How’d you get the T. Rex pee? ‘You don’t want to know.’” (54:34, D)

Tangents & Group Chemistry

• “The joke that Billy's smashing snacks out of the vending machine—and Kirby can't even break the glass!” (47:31, D)
• “This guy needs a jarrito.” (75:38, A on mispronounced “bonitos”)
• “Would this work with a dog?” (82:29, C on Dr. Grant’s ‘raptor flute’)

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Structured Timeline of Key Segments

00:55 – Budget, release, and box office
03:33 – Trey’s first memory: “the pterodactyl one…”
06:25–06:43 – Parsing the logic of the opening scene
12:03–14:35 – Reunion of Sattler & Grant; parenting & dino violence
16:44 – Grant’s questionable fundraising skills
21:00–23:36 – Ice Pick Catfish bar scene/tangents
25:01 – Raptor “Alan” dream sequence
31:25 – Amanda’s megaphone gaffe; “breaking point”
35:04–36:22 – Spinosaurus vs. T. Rex death match
38:23–39:08 – Kirby family reunion subplot roasted
54:34–56:01 – Dr. Grant asks Eric about the T. Rex pee
62:53 – “Some of the worst things imaginable…” (Grant/Billy eggs fight)
65:15–67:57 – Giant birdcage set-piece
72:22 – Satellite phone caper in the dino poop
76:22 – Charlie & Barney on the rescue phone call
84:27 – Military rescue, Billy’s “miracle” comeback
87:45 – “Dare them to nest in Enid, Oklahoma” line mocked
89:17–90:25 – Hosts share favorite scenes
91:28–92:08 – Favorite dinos and characters
94:40 – Reading unused taglines for Jurassic Park 3
97:45–98:47 – Rotten Tomatoes 49% (critics), 37% (fans)
99:13–103:05 – Rating & rankings panel: Is JP3 better than Lost World?

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Ratings & Rankings

Trey: 6.5/10
JD: 3/10 (ranks below The Lost World)
Tas: 5/10 (ranks above The Lost World)
Skeets: 5/10 (ranks above The Lost World)

“Maybe this will not be the lowest ranking in this whole franchise…” (101:05, D)

Overall Split:

• Trey/Tas/Skeets: JP3 > Lost World
• JD: JP3 < Lost World

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Conclusion / Final Thoughts

• General agreement: Fast, lean, easier to rewatch than The Lost World, despite dumb plot points and “moronic” characters.
• The central action set pieces (like the aviary escape and raptor facility chase) are fun. The ending and rekindled Kirby romance are not.
• Plenty of absurdity and “so bad it’s good” moments for a lively pod.
• Excitement (with some dread) for the shift to Jurassic World next episode.

Closing Quote:

“Billy was right. No, he wasn’t totally right.” (104:33, C / 104:41, A)
“And remember, it’s just all a dream.” (104:49, A)

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Listen to Specific Segments

| Segment | Time | |-----------------------------------------|-----------| | Opening banter & movie stats | 00:10–01:58 | | Parasailing open & logic gaps | 03:33–07:18 | | Sattler & Grant’s reunion | 11:01–14:35 | | Bar scene, Ice Pick Catfish jokes | 21:10–23:36 | | Raptor dream sequence | 25:01–25:14 | | Spinosaurus vs. T. Rex | 35:04–36:06 | | Facility chase & vending machine humor | 45:46–48:33 | | Epic birdcage scene | 65:02–67:57 | | Phone-in-dino-poop silliness | 72:22–74:22 | | Rescue, Billy’s survival, final thoughts| 84:27–90:25 | | Hosts’ rankings & closing | 99:13–104:33 |

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For Jurassic franchise fans and critics alike, this episode is both a roast and an affectionate tribute to one of the zanier entries in the series. Next up: Jurassic World!

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to Jurassic Pals, the no Dunks summer podcast series, where we're watching and reviewing every movie from the Jurassic park franchise. Today we've hit the third installment, Jurassic Park 3. Roman numerals only, please. I'm James Skeets here in the classic factory and alongside me, as always. You should see this guy play a raptor flute. Tas Melas.

[B]

Yes, I would love to. I'd love to start a movie playing a flute if I could.

[A]

Next to him, it's the real CEO of Kirby Enterprises, Trey Kirby. I'll take it.

[C]

That's a good one.

[A]

And last but not least, over yonder, he also lost 25 pounds while swimming. It's super producer J.D.

[D]

I did.

[A]

Hey. All right. See, I'm getting better at these.

[C]

These things are pretty fitting, actually.

[A]

Good. Him with the flute, Kirby Enterprises, the swimming, losing weight. It's fantastic. All right. Hello, everybod. Thanks for joining us for another installment here of Jurassic Pals. If you're enjoying this as much as we are, hit the like button. Subscribe. Five star ratings and reviews. Let's get into it. Jurassic Park 3 came out July 18, 2001. Budget 93 million. That budget just keeps going up, up. Despite receiving mixed reviews from critics, it did pretty well at the box office. $369 million grossed worldwide, so not bad. The skinny on this one. We got an odd coup. Ulterior motives. Convincing Dr. Grant to go to Isla Sorna for a holiday. But their unexpected landing startles the island's new inhabitants. Runtime. I love it. 1 hour and 32 minutes. But let's be honest, you can take off like a good 10 minutes of credits at the end. This thing's like 80 to 85 minutes long.

[C]

Breezy.

[A]

I loved it.

[C]

It was great. Yeah, we're flying. We were flying. We're literally flying in this one.

[A]

Yeah, good point, good point. It stars Dr. Grant. He's. Sam Neill is back in our lives. We got William H. Macy. Tea Leone is the lead female actor in this, directed by former Hawks legend Joe Johnston. John Stin is the director here.

[C]

I saw Joe Johnston always calling for close eyes. Another one, please.

[A]

So this director, this is the first director here in the franchise that's not done by Spielberg. Obviously. He did the first two movies, which we talked about. But Joe Johnson, best known for Honey I Shrunk, the Kids, the rocketeer, Jumanji, his most critically acclaimed movie, probably October Sky. But JD Also did a Marvel movie, did Captain the First Avenger, which. Is that a good one? Yes, that's a Good one.

[D]

Absolutely. All of those movies you just listed are bangers, so I'm not sure what happened here.

[A]

Okay, well, let's get into it. Did everybody. I mean, I'll ask you, TK because you got a great memory for this. Did you see this one in theaters like you did the previous two?

[C]

I saw all of the first three in theaters. And this would have been the first one. I would have been just graduated from high school before leaving for college. So that little time period after, I don't have vivid memories of this one. Except for pterodactyl attacks. Like, that's the one thing that sticks out to me when I think of Jurassic Park 3. Oh, it's the pterodactyl one, right? I guess pteran, technically, now that. That we have Wikipedia and I can look it up.

[A]

Yeah. Pteranodon is just a bigger, more ferocious pterodactyl. Is that right?

[B]

Sure.

[C]

You gotta work your way up from pterodactyl to pteran don. And then when you're the don, you're in charge of all the other little ones.

[A]

We got little pterodactyls doing. I'll make you laugh. Okay, so let's start the movie here. We start with Ben Hildebrand and Eric Kirby. No relation to Trey. It is spelled differently, everyone.

[C]

Yeah, this is actually a tragedy for my family. We used to spell it K, I, R, B, Y. And then this movie flopped and we had to change then on out.

[A]

You threw an E in H. Okay, so those two. It's like the father or stepfather and the son here or the kid. Ben and Eric. Like I said, they're parasailing over the waters near Ila Sorna. And it's an illegal adventure company called Dinosaur.

[C]

Brilliant name, Perfect time.

[A]

Pretty good name. It's there on the sale. Things are going okay until the fog rolls in and the boat's crew suddenly disappears. They're gone. And Ben is forced to detach the line before the boat crashes into the rocks and he and Eric drift towards the island. So that's how we're starting this one off.

[B]

Tassel. Why did they disappear? Why did the people.

[A]

Like, what happened to them in the water?

[B]

Why did they disembark from the boat? Why couldn't they just be on the boat?

[A]

I think they were. I guess they were attacked right in.

[B]

The middle of the water.

[A]

Well, we got Pterodactyl.

[D]

We didn't hear them.

[B]

We didn't see them.

[A]

No, I don't.

[B]

That was kind of weird.

[D]

Anyway.

[C]

Well, no blood. Just a Bloodless crime by whatever got them. Who knows?

[A]

Yeah, it insane green work in this. Green screen work. Yeah. In this opening scene.

[D]

Oh, you can see the cut right away when he pulls the parachute, which is not a thing you do when you're parasailing. They just don't let you deploy the parachute yourself. Yeah, but, you know, it's a fly by night company, obviously. Yeah, but yeah, you can see the cut and you were, oh, this is a green screen. And then he pulls the chute and they're up in the air. Yeah, this, I mean, look, this is a decent start to the movie in terms of, okay, people go on vacation and they do stupid all the time, and yeah, you. Then you realize, oh, I'm in way over my head and I'm outside of my, my, my home country and whatever. But I, I, I don't know. Like, what? Didn't we establish in the last movie that the closest island is 87 miles away? And that's Jurassic. That's the first one. Right, right. So how long did it take them to get in that outboard motor to.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Isla Sorna anyways? You know, but look, I don't, I don't mind the, you know, misadventure part of this. The way to start off, to get these guys on the island.

[A]

Yeah, we had to get them on.

[D]

We had to get them on the island. So I guess I'm fine with it. But it is weird that they just disappear, you know? Was it the pterodons? Because the pterodons were still in a, In a cage. But anyways, whatever. Let's not think about it.

[B]

Yeah, the CGI part is weird. The colors aren't matching.

[A]

It looks pretty bad.

[B]

It does look bad in comparison to the dinosaurs that we'll get later on, which looked way better than 2 and 1. I mean, those have advanced, but the color matching from the water to the sky to the cut of the camera, that has not evolved. That part is weird.

[A]

I also laughed. You know, it's cutting back and forth like you guys are talking about. And then suddenly Ben is holding a camcorder.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I'm like, where the hell did that come from? You know, you could sort of see he did have it on, like a sort of string or rope. I gu. Just a bunch of layers in his hands. That'll come into play later. What'd you think of the opening here.

[C]

TK well, speaking of laughs, my favorite part was when they are finally getting ready to be launched up in the air in the parachute, and the driver of the boat is like, they're talking about how close they want to get.

[D]

As close as possible.

[C]

And the driver says, you don't want to be eaten. And Ben Hildebrand. That's hilarious. No one would possibly get eaten here, even though that's the whole point of it. And you know, the dinosaurs are there because they named the company after the dinosaurs.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That guy went right to the top of my worst parents in Jurassic franchise list.

[D]

Well, technically, he's not a.

[A]

That's true. That's true. It's not his blood stuff, right? Yeah, exactly. Do you think so? Yeah. They're doing this illegally, this adventure company. But do you think the, like, the Costa Costa Rica government knows about it? Like, they're getting a little kickback or something?

[D]

Interesting.

[A]

Because like, you're saying, like, if they're not hiding it very well.

[D]

Scathing indictment against the Costa Ricans Tourism Board. But I mean, they have to be, right?

[A]

I think they are.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

They're getting something.

[B]

They kind of planted it. Later to Mr. Kirby, who's like, I know, the Costa Rican government.

[D]

That's right. Yeah.

[B]

Although he doesn't.

[A]

Yeah, that was a lot.

[C]

But we do hear from an air traffic controller when they're on the plane flying to Isla Sorna at some point. So somebody's monitoring the skies.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Around this?

[D]

Yeah, yeah. Who?

[C]

We don't know. We don't know if they're in on it, but this seems like a pretty legit business if they're putting logos on their parasails.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

They're established at the very least.

[A]

Totally. Like, check the Google reviews. Like, I don't. Probably went down after this, but five stars up. Anybody ever parasailed? I have. Yeah. You have. Oh, okay, good. I've never done it.

[C]

Not this.

[A]

No.

[C]

It didn't go like this.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[C]

We went up, we came down and we were able to keep our eyes on the people on the boat the entire time. It was probably a Panama City beach, so not nearly as exciting as seeing the pteranodons from above.

[A]

You've done it as well.

[B]

I have, yeah. I wish I did it on the coast of Costa Rica. It looks way more.

[A]

It's not that exciting is what I'm getting at from you guys.

[B]

No, it's not generally.

[D]

Right.

[B]

It's. You're kind of stationary most of the time.

[A]

You're not.

[B]

It depends. Depends on the company, I suppose.

[D]

Were you guys on one that just sort of let you out and then pulled you back to the boat or I guess.

[A]

Were you Lowered into the water.

[D]

Well, when I did it, they kind of whip you around, and then you. They're like, when we whip you around, you gotta pull this.

[A]

Oh, you actually did have something.

[D]

And then. And then I had to land on the beach, but I pulled the wrong thing. And I was like. My dad was taking photos from the beach.

[A]

Hold on. You are parasailing. There is a boat pulling you, obviously, over the water. And then you're gonna land this thing on the beach.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. And so, like, they didn't have a mechanism to pull you back to the boat, so they're just like, we're gonna whip you around, and when you're. When you're over the beach, pull this. And then you're gonna lower down. Like, you. It sort of like, takes a little bit of wind out of the sail and.

[A]

But you're still attached to the.

[D]

You're attached to the boat, though. You're still attached to the boat. But my dad was taking pictures, and I just, like, grabbed whatever, yanked it down. And, like, you can see in the pictures, like. Like, it's like, holy shit, this guy's gonna die. Anyway. It was. It was bad. It was. But it was exactly that. Sort of like, okay, well, we're in Mexico, and I could literally just fall to, like, you know, break both my legs or whatever.

[A]

Did you eat it on the sand?

[D]

Kind of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

You look at a penalty.

[D]

No dinosaurs, though. No dinosaurs.

[A]

Did your dad have his camera attached to a rope hanging off.

[D]

It was in his lucky bag.

[A]

Oh, my God. There's nothing this movie franchise loves more than a lucky bag. It's going to continue on and on. Okay, so eight weeks later, paleontologist Dr. Alan Grant has made a new discovery about the intelligence of velociraptors. But he's struggling to find, you know, funding for his research. The story of this guy's life, man. Just can never get the money.

[C]

Can never get the money. And it takes some bad checks to try to try and do it.

[A]

I know.

[C]

Ripped off left and right.

[D]

To be fair, he's terrible at fundraising.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Terrible at it. You know, like, any questions, everybody puts their hands up. They're all excited to talk about Jurassic Park. I don't want to talk about Jurassic park or the other thing or San Diego.

[C]

I wasn't there.

[D]

Basically, like, here's my boring ass talk now. Fuck all you guys. Give me money.

[A]

Give me money.

[D]

Yeah, it's terrible.

[A]

Well, Grant discusses his discovery of a resonating larynx. Excuse me. On fossilized raptor remains with his longtime colleague, Dr. Ellie Sattler. And. And look, I popped because we see them, there's kids. I'm like, wow, they're together, they have two kids. Nope, nope. She's got a husband, his name's Mark. Yeah, he's a great guy.

[C]

He is a great guy.

[A]

But they got me for a second. I was like, oh, my God, they are together, they got kids. But no, he's just visiting. They're just friends. And I called her Dr. Ellie Sattler, but I don't know if she kept her last name. I don't know if she took Mark's last name. I don't think they ever say it. Who knows?

[C]

I guess we're gonna have to wait to find out because I think they come back eventually, right? Really, Dr. Sattlerite spoilers. Yeah, I think so. I mean, at least based on previews that I saw this summer.

[A]

Okay, great. Well, anyway, she's married to Mark and they got two kids. And Grant says that the larynx on the raptors was a tremendous evolutionary advantage. So they're talking about this. And Dr. Grant, he goes on about a million other things, right? He's basically saying, velociraptors, smarter than dolphins, smarter than whales, smarter than even primates. They were able to hunt in numbers, coordinate their attacks. He hypothesizes that if they had not gone extinct and continued to evolve, their descendants would have become Earth's most dominant species. Humans would play in for a second is basically what he's saying. So he just has this talk with Dr. Sattler. It's nice to see them together again. Good friends still. Yeah, but he's just spitting facts here about his velociraptors knowledge.

[B]

Shout out to dad for taking Charlie aside. Taking the kid aside so they can have a one eye. That was nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They sat down, got to business, and Ellie, as he referred to her, I think. Yeah, Allie was just. She was moved. She was moved by the whole thing.

[A]

We had a super weird dissolve in this scene. They're at the table, at the kitchen table, and then it dissolves to them, him sitting in his car and her at the window.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

It's like, I don't know how much they cut out there. And then she says, you're still the best, right? And he goes, the last of my breed. Bit of a humble brag.

[C]

Last digger out there.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

So, yeah, I mean, were you excited to see them together on screen again?

[C]

Oh, of course. I got a capital letters, exclamation point. Gren and Sattler are back. He goes right into scaring Sattler's son, you know, because I think he has two herbivores fighting. But then he's like, no, actually, it should be a carnivore fighting. Ellie corrects him, wait until he's 5 years old to start teaching him about dinosaurs that rip each other's throats out. And I was just like, left wondering, what is the right age to teach your kids? Some dinosaurs rip the other one's throats out. Five still seems early to me, but maybe they're able to process it at.

[A]

That point because I don't know.

[C]

It still seems scary to me for a five year old.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Maybe it's just because it's the third Jurassic park, but I said I thought myself, that's cool. Just tell him that the carnivore will eat the herbivore.

[D]

Of course.

[B]

Yeah, I guess Charlie got that. Charlie wasn't freaked out.

[A]

No.

[D]

Yeah, you gotta learn about the food chain early.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

It's just nature, man.

[A]

Right. Then we go to the symposium like you were talking about. J.D. grant is declaring that all Jon Hammond and ingen did at Jurassic park was create genetically engineered theme park monsters. This guy did crap, man. And then he's like, yeah, but does anybody. You know, we'll open it up to questioning J.D. you already said it. And then everyone's hand goes up. He's like, does anyone have a question that does not pertain to Jurassic park or the San Diego incident? And like, a lot of hands go down and we have a little. A small scene here where it's basically illustrating, like, I guess. Yeah, he just sucks at funding. Like, no one really cares, man. Tell us about the time you nearly died with all those dinosaurs. He doesn't want to talk about that.

[C]

Yeah, we don't care about science.

[A]

No carnage.

[D]

It's a fair point by him that they're genetically modified creatures, but it's also a fair point from the person in the audience who's like, you saw a diet. You were next to a dinosaur. You fought dinosaurs. Tell us about that.

[B]

You know, and would you go back if. If you could? And then he said, no, for no force on Earth or in heaven would get me back on that island.

[A]

Shows up and everybody's got a price, man. He does is you do have a price. You'll be going back, buddy. And the check won't even clear. Sorry, that's.

[B]

You didn't do any research?

[A]

No, no, no research.

[C]

No. Google probably had Google.

[A]

It's 2001. We probably had it. Could have looked up Kirby Enterprises at the very least.

[C]

Like vacuums. Wait a second. Yeah, that doesn't add up.

[D]

Got a 3D printer. You can definitely. All you have to do is cash a check. All you have to do is cash it, deposit it in your bank. That's it. That's it.

[B]

Yeah. Really weird that he issued him the check, but he didn't cash it.

[D]

Right? Exactly. He didn't try to cash it. Yeah, he didn't try to cash it.

[B]

I mean, very weird.

[D]

I half expect that he had it on him at the park.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You know what I mean. It's in his back pocket.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

He wasn't expecting to be on that island.

[A]

No, he wasn't. Yeah, he's. He's trustworthy, for sure, but did him in here. Okay, so we go to Fort Peck Lake, Montana. Real place. Looked it up. I think it's a reservoir in Montana. Biggest body of water in Montana, actually. Wow. And this is where we meet Dr. Grant's assistant, Billy Brennan. This guy's flirting mad hard. Billy Brennan. With some cute archaeologist.

[D]

I mean, down in the dirt, I say flirt. I. It's borderline harassment. Let's. Let's be honest.

[A]

Yeah, to me, it was like the Jurassic park version of Ghost, though. Like Swayze and Demi Moore. They had their clay, but he's doing the whole run. Rough, smooth, you know, with all the fossils and the rock and stuff like that. But, yeah, it was pretty creepy. Like he was laying it on thick, for sure.

[D]

I think that's the archaeologist move, though. Because, let's be honest, Dr. Grant. A little too old for Ellie Statler, I think.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

You know, she was 24 when she. When she shot that. When she shot the first. The first.

[A]

I thought she was older.

[D]

I know. Me, too.

[C]

That's.

[D]

That's what a double denim will do. It puts 10 years on you.

[C]

That ages you. I don't bring Billy. Cheryl said to him, I can never tell what's rock and what's bone. What are you supposed to do if you're a paleontologist, you're waiting for somebody to say something like that to you so you can grab a toothbrush and let them put their hands all over the rock.

[A]

Where is it?

[D]

Bo.

[A]

But Billy ain't all sex appeal. No, he uses a 3D printer to replicate the velociraptor larynx. And that thing gets played like a damn flute. Or they're trying it out. But there is a problem here. And Dr. Grant is lamenting that he'll have to wrap up this field research soon because additional funding is not approved. And again, we've seen this before with this guy and he just needs the money. And lucky for him, Paul Kirby shows up to the dig site and he asked Dr. Grant would he like to have dinner with him and his wife. And I wrote in my notes, here, here. Swingers.

[C]

No, they're diggers.

[A]

They're diggers. So, yes, we can jump to. To dinner if you want. Unless you have anything on this Paul Kirby, William H. Macy's first showing up on screen.

[B]

Well, a few things. First, I play a recorder, not a flute. Well, sorry, Larynx, not larnicks.

[A]

Oh, how do you say it? Larynx.

[C]

Larynx.

[B]

Swap the Y in the N. The it.

[A]

Yeah, say it again.

[B]

Larynx.

[A]

Larynx. Okay, I'm throwing a larynx in it.

[B]

And early larynx. The third thing I. I would say when he plays. When Billy plays the velociraptor. The chamber. That's cool.

[C]

I love that song.

[A]

Imagine he played the John Williams theme song.

[C]

Have you ever heard that song, Dr. Grant? But honestly, another brilliant product from InGen. They got 3D print.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

They can make so many consumer products, but they're like, nah, we're going full dinos. Most dangerous thing we could possibly do. Even though we've got an awesome home products line as well.

[B]

Grand love.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

No, he doesn't. No, no. He walks up, Billy says, you like computers, right? That's the number one thing you know about Dr. Grant. I guess. Billy, that's probably why you never get funding. He's counting it all up with beads on the abacus.

[A]

No wonder he cash the check. He doesn't have a bank account. Right?

[B]

That's a good point.

[A]

He's afraid of it for sure.

[B]

Yeah, it's under his mattress, I guess.

[A]

So, Paul and Amanda Kirby, posing as a wealthy couple. They offer funding for Dr. Grant's research if he will give them an aerial tour of Isla Sorna, claiming they have permission to fly over the island. This is what they're saying. They say they're adventurers. Right. They've basically done everything you can as an adventurer. They claim to even have two seats on the first commercial flight to the moon. They're going to be going with Katy Perry.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So then Paul offers a big check to Dr. Grant to help him agree. And this is. They're. They're in the bar scene here. JD And Billy is there. I should have said that as well.

[D]

He was orchestrating this whole thing.

[A]

Billy was. Yeah, yeah, a little bit. For sure. I was confused in this scene because Dr. Grant, his drink, he says to the bartender, who is off screen, he says, ice Pick Catfish. And Billy orders one as well. And I was. I had to look this up. I'm like. I'm like, what is an Ice Pick Catfish.

[D]

Okay, well. Well, go on, go on.

[A]

Well, Catfish or Cat was the name of the bartender. So that's what confused me. Yeah. So I thought it was one thing. I thought it was one drink. It seems like you maybe did, too. Ice Pick Catfish.

[B]

Yeah, I thought that was the whole drink.

[A]

Anyway, that's the waitress off screen, right? Catfish. Cat. A nice pick is a vodka drink mixed with iced tea and lemon.

[D]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

There you go.

[C]

Why give her a nickname?

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

Ice Pick. You don't see her. I don't think you ever see.

[D]

You never see maybe something. You never see her. I mean, look, this is red flag number one for Dr. Grant with this massively wealthy couple taking them to the shittiest bar. Well, hold on.

[A]

They're in the middle of nowhere, Montana. How many bars could there be?

[C]

And they're near the biggest body of water in all of Montana.

[D]

I guarantee you that this is the worst place.

[A]

The Hell Creek. The Hell Creek Bar and Grill. That sounds like a place you would want to go to for sure.

[D]

100%, I would be into it. But if I'm getting wined and dined, if a wealthy couple is trying to convince me to go to an island full of dinosaurs, I need a Nobu at least.

[A]

Minimum, there ain't no Nobu in Montana, man.

[D]

Well, how about an Applebee's?

[A]

Probably have that at least now. Yeah. So again, Dr. Bloomin Onion Catfish. Well, just order his name. Why did he have to say catfish? So weird. Why? That's pretty funny. Just say, I'll take it up, Ice Pick. And then Billy goes, yeah, me too. Like, then at least it would make a little more sense. But, yeah. So confused. Ice Pick Catfish.

[C]

I thought.

[D]

I thought that catfish was the. Was like a vodka label or whatever the. When I first heard, I didn't realize. That makes total sense now. Yeah. I still think the name of the drink.

[B]

The drink is I Ice Pick Catfish. It's because I googled the entire name.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Had results.

[D]

Have you ever had an Ice Pick?

[B]

I have not.

[A]

No.

[D]

It's not bad. I mean, it had.

[A]

It sounds okay. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. This 2001 is a little late for the Ice Pick. Like, it's like a 90s drink, I think.

[A]

Yeah, well, that. I think that fits with Dr. Grant's character.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

A little weird. Billy would want one.

[D]

Yeah, but he just wants to follow.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, Dr. Grant reluctantly agrees to go on this expedition, and he flies there with Paul, Amanda, Billy, and then the Kirby's mercenary associates. You, Desky Cooper, and their pilot, Nash. I. I think I'm skipping over a scene where we do see those three guys. It was somewhere in there, you know, they blow up a plane. It was sort of pointless, I thought.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But I don't know if you have any notes on it.

[C]

No, the only thing. The only note I have is that I do like that they painted the plane to look like a dinosaur.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Jaggedy teeth on it at the front, but.

[A]

Right.

[C]

I like that.

[A]

So we're on. We're on the plane. Let's just get on the plane. Because a few things from that flight here on before Dr. Grant, you know, learns that they want to land the damn thing. Billy has a lucky bag. Like, come on.

[C]

You gotta have a lucky bag.

[A]

Yeah. And then I. I legit guys laughed out loud at the Dr. Grant Dream park, where he falls asleep. He nods off, though. He wakes up, or he's dreaming and he's talking to a velociraptor.

[D]

Alan.

[C]

Alan.

[D]

Alan.

[C]

That was awesome.

[A]

It was so pointless, too.

[C]

He's haunted, man. He's haunted by these raptors.

[A]

Oh, I was laughing my ass off.

[C]

I had a dream recently that the Rizzler came over to my house.

[D]

Oh, man, the whole dream.

[C]

I just wanted to take a photo with him, but I never got a chance to because I kept getting interrupted, you know, kind of similar to this, I guess.

[A]

Alan, did you see. Did you see him on Theo Vaughn's podcast, the Rizzler?

[C]

Well, I. I saw a lot of clips. It was getting fed to me over and over. I'm like, I gotta be at the top of the Rizzler algorithm to the point where it's infected my dream dreams. At this point, he's haunting me, just like the Raptors haunt Dr. Alan Grant.

[A]

I get it. The Rizzler, man. From that. Of the clips I saw. Yeah, he's hilarious.

[C]

Yeah, he's great.

[A]

He was saying the most hilarious things.

[C]

Imagine it's Dr. Grant dreaming of the Rizzler, saying, Alan. Maybe that's happens in the new one in Rebirth. He's everywhere now.

[A]

The Rizzler should be on the island. The Rizzler.

[C]

I'd love for him to go to the island.

[D]

He wouldn't Last five seconds.

[A]

Staring bats with blue.

[D]

Wow.

[C]

No kids have ever died at a Jurassic Park Island, J.D. and you're saying the Rizzler would be the first?

[D]

Oh, yeah, 100%. There's no Costco on Isla Sorna.

[A]

He's moved past the booms and the cookies.

[D]

Oh, that's done.

[A]

Yeah, they were holding him back, if we're being honest. That's all I've learned. And. And as we know, the Rizzler is not related to them.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, he's crazy.

[A]

Okay, back to the plane. During the flight, Dr. Grant learns that the Kirby's plan to land this sucker on the island on site B. But he protest. Protests, but Cooper then just knocks him out. One punch. He's out. Glass jaw. Dr. Grant. And he awakens to discover that they've landed on the island. And he is adamant this is not safe. But Amanda's like on a megaphone calling out for Eric. Bad idea. The spinosaurus. I think I'm saying that correctly. That giant spined lizard dinosaur. He shows up, he approaches the group, they get back on the plane. Cooper's left behind. And we can get into everything that happens after that. But yeah, they. They're like, hey, this is the swerve here. Where suddenly it's like, oh, we're going on this island.

[C]

Hey, guess what? We're back to the island and we're stuck here again. There is a lot of things I actually like in their voyage to Isla Sorna. I suppose we basically get the welcome to Jurassic park moment, but they're flying above right now and they're seeing everything from above. And even Dr. Grant is saying, my God, I'd forgotten this guy is still wild to see the dinosaurs in the flesh. I thought that was a good moment. And I do like how in the first, like, half hour of this movie, everything that we've seen that is a callback to the first movie is now done via plane. Right. Like, we've got parasailing instead of just being on the ground. We've got. The guys are shooting an airplane that's dressed up like a dinosaur.

[A]

True.

[C]

They get there via airplane and have their welcome to Jurassic park moment. Moment as an aerial view. Kind of setting us up for guess what? People are flying around now, including dinosaurs. So I like all of that. I also like that anytime somebody mentions a skill they have, you know it's going to come back later because Billy just casually mentions, yeah, I used to go hang gliding. Yeah, I used to do the most wicked moves.

[A]

I almost died in New Zealand. I Almost died in New Zealand.

[C]

And Dr. Grant hits him with reverse Darwinism. Survival of the most idiotic. That's a line for Jeff Goldblum to be saying, but he ain't here. So Dr. Grant, you get to be both characters. Grant and Malcolm in this one. And then I also laughed when they asked how the mercenaries knew the Kirbys. And Cooper responds, through our church.

[A]

That was great.

[B]

It took him a second to answer that. He was like, yeah, through our church. Dr. Grant had it, though. He had some jokes because as Billy said, yeah, I got my lucky bag. And Dr. Grant was upset. He said, come on, I pay you to dig dinosaurs. Couldn't you afford a better bag? And then he tells the story about hitting the cliff. And immediately Grant goes, oh, that's a lucky bag.

[D]

Hit a cliff.

[B]

Cool. You know, it was pretty funny.

[D]

He had some jokes. Yeah, it was.

[B]

The dinos looked good from that aerial view. I thought that that was pretty cool. As Dr. Grant, I think he took a little too long to get into telling everybody what they see.

[D]

Yeah, he had one job, and that was that.

[A]

Well, yeah.

[D]

Yeah, like, the fake job that he was hired, it was like, oh, yeah. I guess I should be explaining what's going on.

[A]

But they obviously. It didn't take them long to realize they didn't give a crap. Yeah, he's like, oh, hold on, hold on.

[C]

Nobody's even looking out the right side.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

And also then when they do land, I think it's Dr. Grant. When we hear, obviously, the spinosaurus, he's like, what was that? That's an insane thing for him to say when you've landed on an island full of dinosaurs that, you know, what do you think it was from the.

[D]

Moment that Dr. Grant gets knocked out? Which is probably one of my least favorite tropes in a movie. I fucking hate the judo chop. You know what I mean? Like, it's just so stupid. I mean, look, if you hit somebody hard enough that they pass out, they're concussed. And I. I can't. I can't get past that. I'm only like, how he's, like, dizzy. He's disoriented for the entire rest of the movie like that. It's just like.

[A]

I thought you were gonna go a step further and say, anything that happens after he gets knocked out in the entire Jurassic park movie franchise is a dream.

[D]

It could be. It could be. It felt. It felt like. It definitely felt like it.

[C]

Maybe it even extends further, starting with the raptor. Saying Alan to him is the beginning of the Dream maybe six movies if.

[D]

You want to knock somebody out, drag him, like, just needle beep, you know what I mean? That's it. And then he comes to it's profile. It comes. It goes through your system like crazy, like, very fast.

[A]

Okay?

[D]

That's why you have to.

[A]

So you just wish that guy behind him in the plane.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. And then he gets up and he's like, who hit me? Who hit me? Oh, come on. And then you got te Leone, like, screaming into the jungle with the megaphone. And then when she whips around and says that I, I. That I'm out, like, this is. That's the end of the movie for me. Like, I just cannot handle the stupidity anymore. Like, that was the. The breaking point for me. But, you know, she's panicking.

[A]

She's trying to find her son. Cut her some slack.

[D]

And, yeah, that's fine.

[B]

But the no rules laid down by Dr. Grant. You should lay some rules down.

[A]

He didn't have time. He's knocked out. He can't say no. Megaphones on the island.

[D]

It's just like, oh, God, it's so tedious and frustrating to watch. Like, William H. Macy. Honey, stop yelling. He's yelling all like. There's so much yelling in this movie when they're supposed to be sneaking through the jungle. It's just like, you know, there's just so stupid. I can't. I can't handle it.

[A]

Well, what did you think of the spinosaurus who emerges on the Runway and destroys and eats Cooper.

[D]

But number one, I thought it looked stupid. Stupid, like, is like an alley. A walking alligator. I was not impressed. What's wrong with the T. Rex? Why do you have to. What is this instinct where you have to be like, we need something bigger and scarier than a T. Rex. There's nothing scarier than a T. Rex. Except for maybe a raptor, which also, you know, gets a little bit of showcase. But the spinosaurus. The spinosaurus is insane. Like, it's just. It's just like, why are you so obsessed with these humans, dummy? There's. This whole island is full of food. It's just like, what. Like, why is this one spinosaurus going after them for the whole movie? I hate the spinosaurus.

[B]

Get out of here. Did Cooper shoot at the spinosaurus before that first encounter?

[D]

Because he did shoot at what happens on screen for sure. Yeah, you would assume.

[B]

Well, you could assume. The spinosaurus can be mad.

[D]

Well, he got Cooper right away. If it's revenge you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, he shot Cooper Shot at him and he ate Cooper. And the end.

[B]

No more Spinosaurus.

[A]

Yeah. The problem. The problem for me is starting now at Jurassic Park 3 here in our movie franchise, it's like, I see these dinosaurs or we hear these dinosaur names, and I have to go, I don't know. Is that a real dinosaur?

[D]

Right.

[A]

So the spinosaurus, to me was like. I was like, did they make this one up?

[D]

It felt like it, but it's real. It's real. But now they've discovered since the movie came out that it's a water. It stays in the water. It doesn't.

[A]

More of an alligator, less lizard, almost. Yeah.

[D]

So whatever, they made it up. But again, there's no point of this to me.

[A]

They just bigger. Bigger and scarier, JD that's all it is.

[D]

Okay, sure.

[A]

But this is a crazy little fact in looking it up. So a German paleontologist found the spinosaurus here in, like, an African expedition way back in the day, like in 1915. He had, like, really well preserved fossils, I guess, and had a huge fossil collection. It was all completely lost in a bombing raid in Munich, Germany, during World War II.

[D]

Oh, wow.

[A]

It was pretty crazy.

[D]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[A]

Ernst Stromer.

[D]

I don't know Ernst.

[C]

I bet he's a bad guy. For sure he's a bad guy.

[D]

I'm guessing he's a bad guy.

[C]

He's maybe a Muldoon.

[A]

Yeah, Muldoon was better. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Who was Roland Tembo.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Crazy. It was all lost. Okay, so, yeah, the spinosaurus, he devours Cooper. But they're trying to avoid the monster. They're trying to take off in the plane. And they clip it. They hit its fin, I guess, or something. Yeah, maybe. And they crash into the forest. And then we get a huge scene here where the spinosaurus destroys the plane, consumes Nash, the pilot. He had the possession of Paul's satellite phone. Very important. And, you know, they're trying to. The survivors are trying to flee, and they do, and they encounter a T. Rex. And the spinosaurus shows back up and they have a battle. They engage, and the spinosaurus. Jd, I'm sorry, the T. Rex is not the alpha here of this jungle. It's the spinosaurus and takes down the T. Rex. It, like, snaps its neck. Right? Okay, I think. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

It bites him right across the neck. And this is when I was with jd. I hate that spinosaurus. To our precious T. Rex.

[A]

I don't care.

[C]

I don't care that the T. Rex came to San Diego and destroyed for a While it saved our heroes lives at the end of number one. So we're all big T Rex Rex fans. And I gotta agree, the spinosaurus, to me, the long nose I think is what makes it less scary than like the blunt.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Just straight up teeth of the T. Rex. But the question I had was Cooper like runs out of the jungle. They're still trying to leave. He runs onto the Runway. He's trying to get the plane to stop. So it's like, what's worse? Getting hit by a plane going full speed or getting chomped by a spinosaurus.

[A]

Yeah. Maybe he thinks he was gonna like calm cruise it up though and like grab onto the wheel or something.

[C]

I do like that. Like you don't actually see him really get eaten, but you get the blood splatter.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Across the windshield. I thought that was pretty cool. I think ultimately though, I would rather get eaten by a dinosaur. Same than most any other death that's out there.

[A]

Yeah. Wow.

[B]

I want to see the inside of that mouth before I go. Instead of getting hit by that thing that Cooper can't drive or at Sudesky or.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know who was driving it. Yeah.

[C]

Dusky does have to step in.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He doesn't know.

[A]

Yeah, Eventually.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So this is our. This is our second real dinosaur fight. Yeah.

[B]

This is a good fight.

[A]

I thought it was too.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, as much as you hate the spinosaur.

[D]

Yeah. Seeing two dinosaurs fight, I mean, sure. Absolutely.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So what was the first one? The Raptors and the T. Rex and.

[A]

T. Rex versus Raptors. JP1.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Didn't have one in the second one.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Dinosaur versus dinosaur.

[C]

At least they didn't fight each other, huh? We did have two teaming up together.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

You got to add new pieces every time. He went from one dino to two dinos. Now the dinos are fighting.

[A]

Yeah. So after all that, Grant confronts the Kirbys. And this is where we learn they're just a middle class divorced couple. They're looking for their son Eric. I guess they're sort of looking for Amanda's boyfriend Ben too. They don't. She does not seem to care that much about this guy at all. It's all. It's all Eric. Eric character.

[C]

If we find Ben.

[D]

Cool.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

We need to find Eric, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're missing on the island. We know that. And they brought Grant along as an expert because of his past experience at Jurassic Park. But even Grant explains to these dummies like, I wasn't on this island. I was On Nublar, not Sorna. So they're like, oh, crap. I mean.

[D]

Oh, to be fair to the Kirbys, I mean, it's the next best thing. I mean, who else could you get?

[A]

Yeah. Wells?

[D]

Nobody.

[C]

Tembo.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah, I was trying to trust him. For sure. He's been there.

[D]

Yeah, that's a better movie right there. You just sold me on this movie roll.

[C]

And tempo's like, I'll pay you to go back to the island. I guess at the end he said he's been around death too much.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

So he doesn't want to go back.

[A]

He wouldn't want his fee just to be a spinosaurus now.

[C]

Yeah, he didn't even know about it.

[A]

He didn't even know. Yeah, it's good point. Okay, so we also here we have a quick scene. I already joked about it when I introduced you. J.D. quick scene. Paul's taking off his shirt. He's changing shirts, and he has to tell his ex wife. Or I guess she sort of notices. Oh, you're looking pretty cut. Yeah, I lost 25 pounds swimming.

[D]

You don't even know how to swim. Yeah, I learned. Okay, all right, all right. I mean, look, this is another. This little B plot of them. They're rekindling the family, getting back together. Hated every second of it. There's no reason for it. Willie, Mace Macy. I was so annoyed by him. Te Leone. I was annoyed by her. Like, they just seem like complete morons and I. I wanted them to stay divorced by the end. Like, I didn't care.

[C]

They don't give talioni much to do in this movie. She just screams. No, she just screams every time she's on camera. Except for at the end one time. She doesn't scream.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

What you think of William H. Macy's bod, though?

[D]

Looks great, man.

[A]

Yeah, I thought looks.

[D]

Looks good.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

William H. Macy has two of. You know him in Fargo, is one of my favorite all time performances ever. But ever since Fargo, like, I don't know, I don't think I like William H. Macy. This. This is a. This is a me problem. I know, but. But I don't know, like, what else is there's. I mean, mystery man. Yeah. No. Magnolia. He was great in Magnolia. Cooler.

[A]

The cooler. Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Boogie Nights. I guess he's in.

[C]

Yeah. That might have been before this.

[A]

That should have been before this.

[D]

97 was boogie nights, but. Yeah. Anyways, all right.

[A]

You hate the dinosaurs, you hate the people, man.

[D]

I don't know. Yeah, yeah, this is nice. Good for me.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

What was your setting of watching this movie? It feels like you. You walked in not very in a bad mood.

[D]

Yeah, probably.

[A]

We are up to the third one here, so it does start to happen.

[B]

Well, no, but you watch this forever ago. It feels like I watch.

[D]

Well, we did watched. I watched all of them recently because.

[B]

We were doing a rebirth in order.

[A]

But then you rewatched it a second time to refresh your memory.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Jeez. Well, that's your problem, right? We only watch these movies once every 25 years.

[D]

I watched Jurassic Park 25 times, and I watched it again, and I loved it. So fair.

[B]

I watched this twice in one day. It just worked out perfectly.

[D]

But that sounds like a terrible day.

[B]

I understand you don't like the morons part.

[D]

That's right, Tas. And there's nothing else. If you don't care about the characters, then what is the point of any of this, you know what I'm saying?

[A]

Thing?

[D]

It's, like, cool to see dinosaurs, I guess. Yeah, exactly. All right, well, fine. Like, you want to show me some dinosaurs, great. But, I don't know. Make design a scarier one. Not the spinosaurus, I think.

[A]

I think. I think it's, like. It tested well with audiences.

[D]

Great.

[A]

That's my gut says. Okay. So the group searches for Eric and Ben. They travel to the coast to do so, and they find Ben's corpse attached to the parasail. I thought this was a decent jump scare. Yeah, it got me. You know, I'd forgotten that he's dead.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And, you know, he's just bones. But then they see the camcorder, so they fire up the camcorder. Yeah. I wish Dr. Grant was on his corpse.

[C]

It's like this.

[A]

See, this is smooth.

[C]

Billy's like, let me hold your hand.

[A]

Come feel this. So the camcorder's there, and they fire up that. And there's footage of them. And, you know, they're trying to get some clues from this. Is Eric still alive? And they seem to, you know, hypothesize that he is. Because there's a clip. There's a clip, like, where the camcorder's going, and Eric unclips, and he falls, like, one foot.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

To the ground. So he's okay. But there's a lot more in the camcorder as well.

[D]

I love to think that Eric just literally abandoned him.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

How else did he die? You know what I mean? Like, his body is basically intact.

[C]

It's hanging in the parachute.

[D]

Hanging there. It's like the Camcorder goes off. He's like, peace out.

[A]

See you later. I know you'll never be my father. You can never replace my cut. Father. William H. Macy.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

He can swim.

[C]

But I do like that.

[A]

They're like, he killed this guy, man. I like this angle.

[C]

He's abandoned.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But they watch the camcorder, and they're like, eric's alive. Alive. And three seconds later, they find the guy who was holding the camcorder, and he is so dead. He has no skin, no flesh.

[A]

Grown man dead. Again. They do not care about this guy.

[C]

Finally.

[A]

It's horrible.

[D]

This guy that's now dead here, Ben.

[C]

Yeah, I think Amanda put him up to it. She's like, you should go parasailing over East La Sorna. Just go see what it's like.

[A]

Yeah, there's something here. We got to get, like, all the, like, the Reddit subreddits that figure out murders and stuff like that. Was this planned from Amanda and Eric? And maybe even. Maybe even Paul Kirby?

[B]

Is there a possibility, jd, you can take us back to your parasailing event that the dad gets caught in the tree and somehow Eric is. His ropes are cut.

[A]

Yeah, but like I said in the footage, it looks like he drops literally one foot to the ground.

[D]

Right.

[A]

It didn't seem like he was high at all.

[D]

Yeah, well, yeah.

[A]

Like, if they're 25ft up in the area, then. I think you're right. You got something. It's like he unclipped onto a tree branch and then got down.

[B]

Yeah. Like, then maybe couldn't get where they. Where they found. Stepdad was pretty low to the ground.

[A]

It was true. Well, yeah, it comes. Yeah. I thought it was low.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Compies. You think the compies got him?

[D]

That's a great thing.

[A]

Good one death by a million copies.

[C]

Yeah, I'll get you. I do. Like, when they find the camera, they. Maybe it's you desk. He grabs it, he goes, oh, the battery's dead. I've got an idea.

[B]

I've got an idea.

[C]

Change the batteries. Yeah, he just takes the batteries out of a. Like a flash.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That was a great idea, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

If the batteries are dead, first thing I'm doing is changing them.

[A]

I mean, we're old enough to remember those camcorders. I don't think they took those type of batteries.

[D]

That was no ion lithium. Whatever it is.

[A]

I got an idea.

[C]

I had the same idea, actually.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

I've got an idea.

[A]

All right, so Billy decides we gotta take the Sail, I. I love parasailing. I just want to keep this, you know, maybe.

[D]

Great logo. I need that.

[A]

So while he does, Paul and Amanda, I guess, takes off. She's like, distraught, right? But Paul follows her and they stumble upon velociraptor ness. And as they then are all getting ready to set out out, Billy falls behind and Grant circles back to find Billy. Like, where the heck is he? And Billy says he was just photographing the nest. All these velociraptor eggs, which, you know. You know, we later learned that Billy stole two eggs and he's got them in the bag.

[D]

No, no, we didn't learn that later.

[A]

We knew immediately they didn't say.

[D]

Was.

[A]

Implied that he was up to no good.

[D]

Just laying it on a bit thin.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

You know.

[A]

Later the group finds an abandoned ingen compound and a raptor chases them and summons the rest of the pack. And this where Dr. Grant's like, oh, my God, I was right. They're talking to each other. They're smart as hell. We got a pretty slick move here from Amanda and Billy in trapping the one raptor behind the door cage.

[D]

I like that.

[A]

That was cool. That was cool. So there's a big scene here. And then they flee. The humans do into a herd of other dinosaurs. Causes a stampede. Separates Grant and you Deski from the others. But a whole lot there that I just packed in. Anything you wanted to talk about specifically?

[C]

I like when they get to the park center, they see a phone sitting there. And there's like probably 15 seconds of Amanda walking up to the phone.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, no, it doesn't work.

[A]

And you just. He's like, I have an idea.

[C]

I was going to try the phone. Just always chiming in.

[A]

I think we should go that way.

[C]

But yeah, I do like the. You know, the raptor. First we see it. They're looking through the lab. And then we finally see like one head. She's like, wait, that looks weird. The tiniest eye twitch. And then it's on. They trap the raptor. Traps them behind the door. Then it tries to climb over. So they trap it behind the door, starts calling for help. I like that part.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

Yeah, my OCD just went off when she didn't put the phone back on the cradle. You know what I mean?

[C]

Now nobody will be able to get through.

[D]

Exactly. Trey. It may be dead right now, but if you put it back on, its. On the. The receiver, maybe they'll come back and it'll ring.

[B]

You know, maybe she's being smart. Maybe it'll start beeping if it does gain the power back. Exactly.

[D]

Yeah. Okay. All right.

[B]

She's next level. And when she does go to the phone initially, she does say, okay, I'll give this a try. She knows, worth a shot.

[A]

I gotta try the phone. Is this, where. Is this the scene too where they're all getting their snacks out of the vending machine?

[D]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Another part that annoyed me. Okay. The joke that.

[A]

So Billy. Billy smashes through the one vending machine, takes a bunch of snacks.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And then Kirby, Paul Kirby decides I'm gonna try to do it to the other vending machine. He can't get through it, hurts himself.

[D]

And then he just turns and walks away. Skulks off.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Empty handed.

[A]

Yeah, bro.

[D]

Just go into the other. Like, why? You know, it's just like, what am I watching? Well, these people are morons. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

Every snack.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

Every snack.

[D]

You don't know when you're going to be back here. It's ridiculous. I don't want, like extended scenes of let's load up on these snacks, guys. And let's, you know, like, packing all their bags and shit. Like, I don't need that, but I need, need people to act like they would in real life. Right? Like, okay, I'll just skulk over and I'll take. I'll emasculate it. I will take some Funyuns. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but like, but he just walks away. It's like, I guess I'm gonna go hungry now.

[A]

I guess I can't eat.

[C]

I wait to break the glass.

[A]

I wish there was a scene of Dr. Grant trying to stick the check that Paul Kirby wrote him.

[D]

Totally.

[A]

He doesn't know technology at all. Is this a fake Mach.

[C]

What's the first thing you're getting out of the vending machine? J.D. once Billy breaks it open.

[D]

Snickers 100%.

[C]

100% really?

[A]

Satisfies.

[D]

You got some nougat. Nougat.

[A]

Larynx.

[D]

Larynx.

[A]

You get laryx wrong my whole life. I think that's embarrassing.

[C]

That'd be a great Snickers. You're not yourself when you're hungry.

[A]

Commercial.

[C]

But it's the raptor saying Allen to.

[D]

Is everybody getting Snickers? Is, is that, Is that the.

[A]

Any other options you're getting from the vending machine? I think Billy's.

[B]

Billy's probably grabbed all the Snickers.

[D]

I think.

[A]

They'Re eating something later. Right?

[D]

Crunch.

[A]

That's good.

[D]

Oh, Nestle Crunch. Yeah.

[B]

There's a crunch product place.

[D]

Definitely Nestle for both. Both the. The last two movies. Because the. In the tent, they were eating Crackle or whatever they were.

[A]

You're right.

[D]

Yeah. Is that what it's called?

[A]

Cracker?

[D]

Crackle.

[A]

Crackle.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Nestle makes crunch and crackle.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

That seems like a monopoly to me. We gotta ask the SEC to step in.

[A]

Wait, hold.

[D]

They're the same thing, are they not?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. They're basically the crack mixed rice.

[D]

Oh, hold on. There's so much more crisp rice. Anyway, whatever.

[A]

Crackle.

[B]

The Crackle's got the crackle.

[A]

No, Crackle is Hershey's.

[D]

So it's a Hershey's. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh, so. So Crackle was in Jurassic Park 2 in the tent.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So you think Nestle came in with more money?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And so we want in the vending machines or a shot of somebody eating it.

[B]

Yeah, well, that's. It's actually. I don't know if it's from the vending machine because Eric's eating it when.

[D]

Eric getting a crunch. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Eric is bonding with Dr.

[A]

Probably found other vending machines. Maybe. Maybe.

[B]

That was weird, though. He's eating from. Dr. Grant's eating from that can. Where'd that can come from? Like this?

[A]

Yeah. Just these abandoned things on the island, I guess. Yeah. He's surviving. He's drinking.

[B]

No, but Dr. Grant is scooping in the bottom of this can. Just looks weird.

[D]

Anyway, I will say that this sequence here, the. The raptor chase inside the facility or whatever. Decent action. The raptors look great.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

It is actually a fun scene, so I'm gonna give it that.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

What do you think about some of the raptors having mohawks now?

[D]

Interesting. I guess a little tip of the hat to them being bird like. And I think really that's just there to. So that we can tell the difference. Right. I guess. I don't know.

[C]

Yeah. I thought it was interesting that they got new hairstyles, but I think it was like, literally, like, probably science people were like. Like, they should have feathers. If they're gonna grow up to be birds, you gotta do something.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Cause we know that, like, raptors don't really look like raptors as described. So they try to make it a little bit more scientifically realistic, I think.

[A]

And to go back to the Dr. Grant dream about the velociraptor, I think I read somewhere it's, like, impossible that Dr. Grant could dream of that version of a. It's got a mohawk, velociraptor Cause he's never seen it yet. Wow. So he's dreaming. I think this whole thing is a dream. I'm convinced. Even more of it. It's crazy, bro. Yeah.

[D]

Up.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

I like it.

[A]

Okay. Anyway, the raptors attack Udesi in an attempt to lure the others out of a tree. And they almost succeed in attacking Amanda when she tries to go down to help him. So like they. Smart buggers. Clever girls, no doubt. Like they literally could just kill you. They're like sort of keeping them alive, hoping the others will come and save them. But yeah, the rat, it just fails. They're like. The humans are like, okay, I guess we won't. So the raptors like just kill you desk and then like clear out.

[D]

You know what? It's not working, guys. Let's snap his neck.

[A]

They're ruthless.

[D]

Yeah, it's so. It's such lazy writing. But it's just like, okay, well we can't have an alive you Deski lying in the middle because then they have to deal with him.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So let's have the raptors just snap his neck for no reason at all. Right. Like, why would they do this? That at least eat them, right? Like, it's like they're not falling for it. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah. Cuz otherwise it's like, what's. What's the point? They're just trying to get other humans out.

[D]

They're just trying to.

[A]

Them too. All they needed to do was have them drag them off.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Chomp them and then drag them off into.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

And we're like, oh, we don't know what they did with them.

[D]

Yeah, no, but then. But it's like they thought he was dead. And they're like, oh my God, he's alive. Alive. Let's go help him. That didn't work. But if they drag him off, then he's. There's still a chance he might be alive. So then you have a problem because if they don't go after you desky, then we hate the characters even more. Right. It's just like, how could you just leave him like he's alive? They're holding him hostage, man.

[A]

I guess. Yeah.

[D]

But yeah, you know what? Let's just snap the neck and move on.

[A]

Yeah, let's move on. Exactly. And let's move on. Because elsewhere, Dr. Grant observing the pack communicating, and he suspects that they are searching for something. So he tries to slip away. They ambush him. He's surrounded. But Lord of the Flies, Eric, he appears, disperses the Attack with tear gas, whatever it is, smoke bomb, whatever the heck it was. And takes Grant to an overturned supply truck, like, the back of it, I guess. And they take shelter. That's where he's sort of been holding out for these last eight weeks. Just surviving. This kid's amazing. Amazing.

[B]

It's only been eight weeks.

[A]

Yeah, right, right. Doesn't have a calendar there for sure. And in the shelter, we get an insane scene where Dr. Grant holds up a jar with T. Rex pee and goes, how'd you get it? And Eric just goes, you don't want to know.

[D]

Yes, I do. I absolutely do.

[B]

Scientists would like to know.

[D]

Well, I mean, how do you get it?

[B]

No, yeah, a fair question.

[A]

How do you get it?

[D]

How do you get it? I mean, there's a story there or it's not a story. You know what I mean? Like, I saw a T. Rex take a piss, and I went and scooped it out of the. You know.

[A]

Yeah, it's like, okay, let's talk this through. How. What's the best way Eric got the T. Rex pee? Most believable way.

[C]

Fill a beaker in a puddle.

[A]

Puddle, puddle. 100%.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You just got to get lucky. There's an indent there. He's peeing in it.

[D]

That's right.

[C]

T. Rex really had to go.

[D]

It's a female drop and squat, you know.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Or he's in that trench. You know where Dr. Grant was in that trench when the spine was facing the T. Rex.

[C]

Uhhuh.

[B]

Maybe he just lied on top of him. Yeah, yeah. Maybe Eric just takes that trench and just catches as the dinosaur pees on him.

[A]

Wow. Oh, Pees on him and then he, like, rings it out.

[D]

Sure.

[B]

Ring. Yeah. That's a good.

[C]

Oh, like, those are like survivor challenges. They have to carry as much mud as possible. Pilot on their butt body. He just lays under the T. Rex, gets soaking wet and then brings it out.

[B]

Brilliant.

[C]

Look, we've come up with several good ideas.

[A]

This is why we need to hear the story.

[C]

How exciting was it?

[D]

Yeah, we need to know. But it's important for them to say repels all the other ones, but not the spino. Right? Yeah, that's what he's saying.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[D]

How do you know, man? You don't want to know.

[A]

I will not tell you.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

I'm not revealing anything that's kept me. I've been alive as a child for eight weeks, and I'm revealing none of my survival skill. A lot of times we get a teaser for, like, Like I'm saying, like Billy with his hang gliding, it comes up. He's a hang glider. Eventually, you know, Kelly, we hear she was a gymnast. The gymnast comes up eventually. The only scene setting we get for Eric is his parents at one point say he's resourceful.

[A]

Yeah, it's true.

[C]

He's just out there being resourceful.

[A]

He seemed into the parasailing. Yeah. He wasn't scared at all.

[C]

He's read the books.

[A]

Well, that's right. He brings up randomly. What? Well, Dr. Grant brings up Malcolm's book.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Just has to slide that in there. This is our only Dr. Malcolm reference, I think. And the two I'm talking about, Dr. Grant and Eric, they bond over Dr. Malcolm just being so full of himself.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Basically.

[D]

And to that, I say, get over it, man. You've. You lost? You lost. Malcolm has gone on. He doesn't give a. About you. You didn't even get Sattler. You're not with her. So what? Like, so this is your. This is how petty you are. Like, you're. You're talking to a child about how full of himself Dr. Malcolm is. I mean, this is not the Dr. Grant that I know and love.

[B]

Did Dr. Grant say anything about Malcolm being full of himself?

[A]

Yeah, he sort of. He just. He, like, agreed on it.

[D]

Yeah. They're sort of like, yeah, he is kind of a dick.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Eric said at first, yeah, preachy and high on himself.

[D]

But you know that Grant was, like, fishing for it. It's like, what'd you think of his book? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Well, I read that the film originally included Jeff Goldblum as a character, so Dr. Ian Malcolm was supposed to be in Jurassic Park 3. This is what I read. A few days into filming, Goldblum injured his leg and decided to drop out, stating his character wasn't that important to the script. I hope that's true. He showed up to start this movie, hurts his leg, and he's like, I'm out of here. You don't need me.

[D]

Your leg was hurt in the whole second half of Jurassic park and you were killed, man. You don't need your leg for this.

[A]

That's crazy.

[C]

If that's true changes his mind as the series goes on. I've noticed with regards to if the script needs him. I like, though, when Eric is telling Grant about how he read his books, he said, I read both of them. I like the first one more. Before you were on the island, you liked dinosaurs. Back then, I was like, oh, this is some great meta commentary.

[A]

Yeah, that's what's changed about. Yeah, man. I guess he's now seen them. We also get an outside shot quickly, of the compies. They're out there.

[C]

They're out there.

[A]

They're out there, man. The next day, Grant and Eric are reunited with Billy and the Kirbys. And I did write in my notes here, this Eric kid, he has incredible hearing. You notice this? I picked up on him a couple times. He hears the compies, first off when they're in the tank. That's impressive. Then he hears the satellite phone.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Sharp hearing that gets them to, like, when they all meet on opposite sides of the huge fence. And this is where Eric asked about the satellite phone. Hey, where is it? I heard it. McKirby's like, I don't have that. Do you have that? I gave it to Nash on the plane. He was eating. And then cue the little jingle from the satellite phone. Turn around. That's the fin monster. It's the spinosaurus. Yes.

[D]

Just snuck up on that.

[A]

I funny you say that, J.D. these big ass dinos light on their.

[D]

Feet in this movie.

[A]

One. Yeah. Rumbling for sure.

[C]

Not at the end. Not at the end. The T. Rex sneaks.

[A]

Not at the end.

[C]

Saves them.

[A]

These dinosaurs would be incredible at sneaking out of a house and like coming back at like 2 in the morning, like on the stairs and stuff, like your parents are never gonna hear. But anyway, we got this big scene and. And you know, obviously you can get into it, but yeah, Eric, great hearing, TK and then the satellite phone reveal that it's inside the spinosaurus.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And Eric, I mean, he's read the book, so he knows that the closer to water, the bigger things get. Whereas his dad, Paul Kirby, apparently not interested in what his son is interested in saying. We need to go to the water because all the big dinosaurs are in the middle. He's just guessing. This guy is just guessing. But he figured out how to put his tile store ringtone on a satellite phone, which I thought was pretty cool.

[A]

I didn't know you could do custom.

[C]

Ringtones back in 2001. Nor did I know you could do them, period, for a satellite phone. Which is probably something we learned about in this movie to begin with, but good thing. Cause, I mean, don't you think any ringtone would catch your ear at that point?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

If you heard a phone ring, since we know they don't work at the communication center.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So wouldn't. Couldn't Eric just be like, I hear a phone ringing. Did you bring a phone? But no, he has to hear his dad jingle.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

On the satellite phone.

[D]

Which, by the way, Joe Johnson. We need to hear that jingle beforehand for it to like register. Do you know what I mean? It's like, oh, it's my dad's jingle from his store.

[A]

We never heard it once prior to this.

[D]

Nope.

[A]

Oh, really?

[D]

I don't think so. It would be. It would be helpful to.

[B]

It was mentioned once before, right?

[D]

Yeah, well, they. That they had.

[A]

Earlier.

[B]

I think the jingle is mentioned.

[D]

Oh, interesting.

[B]

But we didn't hear it.

[D]

Yeah, we definitely didn't.

[B]

No.

[D]

But anyways, who cares? I. I agree with you. 100. It's a cell phone. You'd hear a cell phone. Let's just go follow the cell phone.

[C]

Is that a phone?

[D]

It's something. It's something to run towards, right?

[A]

I guess so. Yeah. Well, the group is chased by the spinosaurus here. And. And they get lucky. There's a little hole on the one side. There's a perfect human sized hole through the fence. So they can go through that, but it doesn't matter. That dude just bursts through that damn thing. Anything? He goes right through the huge looking fence.

[B]

Yeah. But they chill there for a while. They're just like, oh, yeah, we're safe, we're good.

[A]

Hog party, we're good. But then they manage to lock it out, I guess, because they get into an abandoned observatory and this is where Grant finds the velociraptor eggs. In Billy's bag. Because he had the bag, didn't he? And.

[B]

Lucky bag.

[A]

Yeah, lucky bag. And he finds it. Billy hoped to sell the eggs to fund money and get money for the dig site. Grant, man disapproves of this idea, but he keeps the eggs because he's like, you know, we might have to barter with the velociraptor later. So. Because he's gonna drop him out a window, right? He's like, ah, get rid of these. But he's like, I will keep them. But man, he is mad. Disappointed in Billy. Like, this is disappointed, dad. Dr. Grant, he's not even that angry, so. Just disappointed.

[C]

Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions. You're no better than the people who built this place.

[D]

That's just way too hard.

[A]

That was too hard, Too harsh.

[D]

It's like, you're dead to me, man. Like basically saying, yeah, I don't know. I just thought it was just a lot. It was a lot. I mean, I know you're mad, but come on, this guy. You've been working with this guy for a while. You've been showing him all your moves, the whole hand tracing thing and, you know, the. The all of the paleontology and picking up women and stuff. Like he's. He's his mentor, but that's what hurts the most.

[A]

He's like, I never taught you this, man.

[C]

I would never steal it.

[A]

You get.

[D]

Look, if you're a mentor, you. You understand that people make mistakes. It's just a. One mistake is his first mess up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

But to be fair, it's the first time he saw raptor eggs. And like, yeah, what a weakness for eggs this man has.

[A]

Yeah. This guy loves eggs more than I do.

[C]

It's like, you go to a beach, you know you're not supposed to take the seashells away. Everybody knows you're not supposed to take the raptor eggs off.

[A]

Useless.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

Seashells, people with the coral reef, stuff like that.

[D]

Right?

[A]

Yeah. It's like, what are you doing, Billy?

[C]

So he's also like, yeah, let's hang on to him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What if they catch us with them? What if they catch us without them?

[D]

That's a decent line. I didn't mind that.

[A]

Yeah, okay, I agree.

[D]

I just thought that he was a little harsh on old Billy.

[B]

Dr. Grant does come around later on and regrets what he said to Billy.

[A]

It's true, he does walk it back.

[D]

After it's too late, but.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, he's not a good. He's a scientist, man. He's not a good man.

[C]

All right. He's a great scientist.

[A]

Anything else from that? The whole chase and them in the observatory. We're about to get into the aviary, but anything else from there? Nah. Let's move then. Yeah, I guess. The group unknowingly enters a large aviary, right? They don't know they're in this. It's too foggy. And this is where the pteranodons, not pterodactyls, the big ones, they attack the group and they eventually fly away with Eric. But there's, you know, Billy rescues Eric. He uses the parasail, but then he's attacked. He's seemingly killed. You think he's dead?

[C]

I thought way dead.

[A]

And the rest of the group escapes the birdcage. They unknowingly, though, leave the door unlocked. They find a boat, they make their way down the river. Jd, your thoughts on this giant birdcage scene? We're a lot more happy happens.

[D]

Look, this is. This is the set piece of the whole movie. I think aside from the spinosaurus, the. It's great to see the pterodactyls. We got a little. Or sorry. Pteranodons. We get a little taste of them in that. The end of Jurassic Park 2 or the. The last.

[A]

That's true. And I definitely on Jurassic Pal said pterodactyl at the end of that episode. I apologize. That must have been a pterodon.

[C]

We were, we were all taught pterodactyls came out. We go only thought there was pterodactyls.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

I know.

[D]

I don't know. Like, somehow they rounded them all up and put them in a cage. A big cage. But that's fine. Yeah. I mean, the beats of it. Like, oh, don't worry, Mom. I've been here for eight weeks. I. I'll be fine. Literally two seconds later, he gets scooped up by a pteran. This like, it's fine. Oh, I've got a. Happen to be wearing a parachute. He's wearing the parachute for some reason. Right.

[A]

He didn't pack it perfectly.

[D]

He packed it perfectly and just happens to be wearing it. See you. He rescues. It's a thrilling scene, I will give it that.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

But when Billy's getting pecked to death, and there is this and this one scene where, you know, there's a pteran in the foreground and it just turns around as if to say, you're. You're next. You know that shot? I'm talking about the cringiest thing of the entire movie for me. Like I, I was just like, oh, my God, this is. I. I can't do it.

[C]

Did you like a dinosaur hitting the Rizzle Face?

[A]

Breaking the fourth wall?

[D]

I don't like it.

[A]

The Rizzler's riding.

[D]

He's looking right at you.

[A]

Yeah. Did you laugh out loud when Dr. Grant kicked the pteranodon in the head? Because remember, he's in the cage part.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Straight kicks.

[C]

I like that. I like when Billy gets. Or Eric gets dropped off to get pecked to death and he picks up a skull and throws it at him.

[A]

I love that. Yeah.

[C]

Where'd that skull come from? Whose human skull is that?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, God. Good point. Yeah.

[C]

Rip to that guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So he got pecked because he didn't have a Billy with him.

[A]

And then when they, when they are escaping because you know they're trying to get away. I don't know if you call this a callback to Paul Kirby telling his ex wife that he lost 25 pounds while swimming. But Paul Kirby does A textbook dive into the water. Did you catch that? It is the perfect dive. It's like, awesome. He. On a. On a Survivor type dive, it's like, whoa. This guy's been in the water.

[C]

He's been playing good now.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

William Basy, he trained for six months preparing for this role.

[A]

It's a good dive. It's really good. It's like right at the end of this whole scene when they're getting out. Yeah. Because they went under those two, right?

[D]

That's right.

[A]

And the other two got out. So. Yeah. Good. Good scene.

[D]

That's good.

[A]

Yeah. Scary enough.

[B]

The thing about this centerpiece versus the one in. In the Lost World where some way people were just killed on that boat just so they could have a dramatic landing. I understand why you're taken out of this one, J.D. but I was way more taken out of that one where these guys, you know, when they landed in San Diego right after these people just. Just literally died on the boat for no reason.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Why? Why did they die? So this centerpiece piece.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

There's some moments where I, like, okay, that. That bird turned around. He did the Riz. Cool. Kind of lost, but at least it's part of the Still. It's still part of the storyline to me. That's why. Yeah. I enjoyed the ending way more than I didn't with the dress.

[A]

Okay. With Lost World. Okay, well, we're on the boat now. Dr. Grant tells Eric about his theory. Only two kinds of boys. Those who want to be astronomers and those who want to be astronauts. What are you. Eric? And then the sun pops up and we get the John, Willie, JP Theme kicking in here. We see the herbivores just chilling. And I again, and I know I've said this a couple times, man, Jurassic Park World eventually just should have went with herbivores. I'm sorry. It's cool enough sprayed herbs. You're right. We don't need the scary dinosaurs that ruin everything. You guys would have made a killing. You got too greedy. That's all I'm gonna say.

[C]

I totally agree. I got little goosebumps when they hit the theme. And I don't know if it's the exact same brachiosaur, but it felt like it to me. Felt like we were reunited once again. I don't know if I would go as far as Eric did because he says Billy was right, because Billy wants to touch the dinos. You know, Billy is an astronaut. He's not an astronomer. He really wants to be there. I still think maybe Dr. Grant is right with regards to we shouldn't have brought these animals back and we shouldn't be trying to interact with them. But it would be cool to see, undeniably. But Billy was right. A little bit too far for me.

[D]

Yeah, I hated this with such a passion.

[A]

This boat ride where they're talking, where.

[D]

As you say, the sun comes up and they've just packed as many herbivores as they can onto the. The same shot. The John Williams score is always welcome, but it was, I don't know, 20 beats per minute, a little bit faster than normal. Just like, let's just get this in here. But let's just establish the one thunder and stuff. And after everything they've been through, who gives a about the dinosaur? If I'm a character on that boat, I'm like, please, no more dinosaurs. I don't care if they're harmless. You know what I mean? Like, I just. It just doesn't ring true to me. They should have done that earlier. I mean, Trey, you mentioned them flying over. It did look cool, but it wasn't the same. It just felt so, like. It felt like a note from an executives saying, we got to get some wonder in.

[A]

Hey, we gotta remind. We gotta get everybody that the dinos are cool.

[D]

That's right.

[C]

We like dinos.

[A]

Like the herbivore.

[D]

That's right. That's right. And I just was just like, no, it's too little, too late. And it's. It literally feels sandwiched in there because the score is too fast. Like, add 10 seconds to. To that. Make it seem less staged with all the, you know, every dinosaur in there at all at the same time. And then maybe I'm in, But I don't know. It just felt so disingenuous and not good to me.

[B]

Yeah, and I agree, it didn't fit with the theme song. When you come into this movie either, where it's a. It's a horro.

[D]

Right?

[A]

Is.

[D]

That. That part's.

[B]

That part's weird. It just feels like they're saying to you the two best days of being at Jurassic park are the days you get there and the day you leave.

[A]

You know, that's all it was. It was just a quick, like, little nostalgia play, man. Play the hits. That's all they were trying to do, at least. No, no. Maybe it didn't work for you. It sounds like it didn't, but, yeah.

[B]

It was nostalgia for sure.

[A]

The weather changes quickly on silence, foggy.

[D]

Sunny all of a sudden pouring in.

[A]

Yeah, I know. J.D.

[C]

You have two sons. Were they always talking about how they wanted to be either an astronomer or an astronaut as they were growing up?

[D]

Yes. I have one of each one. Which one is which? But yeah, definitely true.

[C]

Astronomers are crazy. A crazy inclusion to me. Astronaut for sure. Like people could talk about being an astronaut.

[D]

Sure.

[C]

Astronomer was a curveball.

[A]

Yeah. Well, that night. Because I think it does turn tonight here, this boat ride. Right. The group retrieves the ringing satellite phone from the feces species of the spinosaurus Big Dumper. Big Dumper. We got more dump in our lives, Cal.

[B]

Raleigh, probably.

[A]

Wait, not as big I'd say though, as the Triceratops dump. Right.

[D]

Great question.

[A]

You think these mounds were bigger?

[B]

I think so. No, I think they were the height of a tractor. I thought they were.

[A]

They definitely were that on JP1. Huge piles.

[C]

Anyway, I watch a whole movie about piles, comparing piles. So there's two kinds of boys. Ones who want to see the piles and ones who want to smell the piles, which are you.

[A]

So they get the phone and I mean, they're going to need this phone. They're going to make an important call. But there is a part in here and I don't know what order, if I have it out of order here. But out of nowhere, as they always appear now, there's a giant like red looking T. Rex thing.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

That like approaches the them, sort of like snorts and turns around and walks away. What the hell was that?

[D]

Yeah, well, they were covered in. So he was not interested.

[A]

That's what it was.

[D]

I think that's. That's the bit. That's the joke. Wow.

[A]

I did not get that.

[D]

A lot of people didn't.

[A]

I was just like, what was the point of that except to show us this new, I guess, dinosaur.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know what it was. Like a serious ceratosaurus. I think I looked it up.

[D]

All right.

[C]

I had red horn T Rex in my notes.

[D]

That's what it looks like.

[A]

Checking in.

[D]

Yeah. He comes up to them and he just sort of snorts and then he kind of recoils a bit and then he runs away and they're like, well, that was good.

[A]

Oh, because it is the spinosaurus dump that they're covered in.

[D]

I thought it was the G. I thought the bit was. It's shit. So I'm grossed out.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[C]

Well, they gotta put that to their.

[D]

Advantage from here on out, right? Yeah, Just cover yourself in it. Right.

[C]

I mean, if they use the phone straight out of the pile.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Now I'm like, smart move.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

So, back in the boat, Eric notices the fish are spooked. The bonitos. It's pronounced bonitos.

[B]

Nice fella.

[A]

That's a mo Vernie. Shout out for you. Real sickos. I only did that for these guys, so I'm good. I was told. I was told it's pronounced bonitos. Do you know the bonitos, fish? Trey, you are a big fan. I never heard of it.

[C]

Literally. I only know as, like, there are some dishes you can get that have bonita flakes on them. Right? Like, I assume that's what they're made from. I don't know what they are as a fish, though.

[A]

Okay, well, nice. You know the fish are spooked. Go on.

[D]

Yeah, show us the fish. Right? I mean, did we see the fish?

[A]

No.

[B]

This is a dino movie.

[A]

Well, yeah, all that ripples. All that was doing was like, something's coming out of the water.

[D]

Okay, fine. Yeah, but I need to see the bonitos being spooked. I need to see it because I don't know what the hell he was talking about. What are you talking about?

[A]

Bonitos.

[D]

Show me the bonitos.

[A]

This guy needs a jarrito.

[C]

That's a fun word. Every fish can be called a bonito.

[A]

Bonitos. So Grant uses the poop phone to contact Elliot Kelly, and he sort of manages to tell her where they are. Right. I guess he gets out the river, site B. And Charlie is the one on the other end of the call. I mean, this is a long scene. Charlie. This is. Yeah. Okay. J.D. hates it. No doubt, but he's. Charlie's a kid. Hey, can you get your mom? And he's trying to find her. I thought he. Like, for a kid his age, he was giving it a go. Hey, like, he looked out the window. He couldn't unlock the door. He saw mom talking to Martin Park.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Her husband. And Charlie gets a little distracted by Barney on tv.

[D]

Yeah. Oh, the irony. It's a dinosaur, guys.

[A]

But, but, but, but, but the spinosaurus attacks the boat, and this. This dude just won't leave them alone.

[D]

Like, Right?

[A]

What? Yeah, just let him chill, man.

[D]

I mean, you know, he. Did they hit him with a plane as well. I forgot about that. So maybe that was sort of. What?

[A]

Right. You know, and we get a huge final action scene here. It ends with Dr. Grant igniting the boat fuel in the water, causing the spinosaurus to flee. Because we had Paul Kirby climbing The crane and Dr. Grant diving back under the water for the flare gun. And the whole thing with the cage and them under the water. And again, they're trying to make this call. Paul. We get Amanda screaming at one point. Paul, you jerk. What a stupid thing to yell.

[D]

Oh, my God, I love Paul.

[C]

Distracting the spinosaurus. It works. Title's like, what?

[A]

What is that guy? Weirdo. And they think they use. I guess we are led to believe Paul's dead at one point. But then he's like, right. Right there. Just, like, right behind them. He's alive. It works.

[C]

I'm just fishing.

[D]

Yeah. They didn't give us. They didn't give the characters enough time to think he was dead. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

No, it was a quick.

[D]

Too quick, like, you know, it's just so badly paced and directed. Sorry, Joe Johnson.

[A]

You know, it's perfectly paced. It was quick.

[D]

Well, okay, there is that. It was mercifully quick.

[A]

Yes. But any thoughts on this? Big fire crane under the water. Big scene here.

[B]

It was dark.

[A]

Very dark. Very dark. Yeah. The weather came in. Got dark at night. Yeah.

[C]

I didn't want to be out there at night. Eric's fine. He's been out there for eight weeks.

[D]

That's right.

[C]

Probably hasn't slept a wink.

[B]

I guess it was to accent the fire. The darker the better.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And just easier to hide the CGI of it all. Yeah. Just make it dark. Make it rainy.

[C]

I liked it.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I like the end because I like the end of Joe. Jaws.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

This is the end of Jaws. So I watched this, and then I watched the end of Jaws once again. I was like, oh, monster. Chasing them on a boat that's sinking. And there's a cage underwater. They blow it up with fire at the end. This is the same movie.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I like that movie.

[A]

Okay. Fireworks. The jet fuel. So the next morning, the group makes its way towards the coast, but they're surrounded by the raptors. That's okay, though, because they got the eggs. Right. Kept on it. Kept a hold of those two eggs. And Dr. Grant, okay, I guess he. What happens here? He gives them the eggs and then he uses the raptor flute, Right?

[D]

That's right. Yeah.

[C]

Because it's the bottom of the bag.

[A]

Yeah. Right.

[C]

Until he takes the eggs out.

[A]

Right. And what did it do? It confused. The pack of raptors.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

That. What's this guy playing? What's he playing the raptor flute for? As. As.

[D]

This is my takeaway earlier on. He goes. He notices. Oh, they're calling for help.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So he tried. He did like a. A little toot on it.

[A]

Little.

[D]

You know, that didn't work. And then does one of the characters say, oh, call for help. Call for help. Somebody says that? Yeah, yeah. So then he, I guess, perfectly mimics the whatever. Like, and then they all go, oh, someone's calling for help.

[A]

These are, we are told these are the smartest animals on the planet. There's a man in front of you with a flute doing the sound.

[D]

That's the sound.

[A]

Should they be like, yeah, what? You don't need to run off to. Somebody's called for help somewhere else. He's doing it.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, look, I, I mean, did you guys think that it sounded like a raptor when he first blew the thing? Because I didn't. I was like, okay, it sounds nice. I mean, it was like when they found that mummy and they. Or they're like, they remember that meme of the guy. I don't know. They, they, they were like, oh, this is what the. This guy sounded like. And it's literally like, you know, so you're telling me that you blew into this thing and that's what they heard in raptor, you know, parlance. And they're like, uh, oh, somebody's in trouble. Let's everybody leave.

[A]

Leave.

[D]

We'll take our eggs and we'll just leave these guys alone. I don't know, is that what it was? Or was it. No, that's it. Oh, these guys are one of us. They're. Oh, I didn't know you were a raptors. You kind of look different. Like, I don't know, but they look.

[A]

Hold on. They look a little freaked out. The raptors do after this, like, little thing on the flute. Yeah, but then the one literally bows. He bows at the end before he takes off. Respect.

[C]

Respect it.

[A]

And they take the eggs. Also did the lead rap. The lead raptor thought Amanda took the eggs. Yeah, that was. Did they just. Because she was a woman.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, right.

[A]

I was like, why did they jump to.

[D]

That's a mom.

[B]

You can tell, right?

[C]

First time she doesn't yell, though. Raptor touches her face, keeps it cool.

[D]

Yeah. Oh, but why wouldn't the raptor just bite her head off or all their heads up?

[A]

They just want the extra back.

[D]

Yeah, but they can get the eggs back. But they can just. Just dispense with all this tension. Yeah, kill them all. Eat them. Eat. And then get their eggs back.

[B]

Well, if he eats one of them, maybe the other one will run off.

[D]

With the eggs, I suppose.

[B]

Yeah, Those are. Eggs are important.

[A]

Good thing.

[D]

How important are they? I mean, remember how many eggs were in there.

[A]

Eggs. You know how expensive eggs are.

[D]

Oh, you're right. That's a good point.

[A]

That's a good point.

[C]

JD would you have laughed if when Dr. Grant plays the resonator it says they there were subtitles and it said, please eat us.

[A]

They're like, no, no, no.

[D]

Don'T eat.

[C]

Us and then run off. Would that be okay?

[D]

That would be great. That'd be better. That'd be way better.

[A]

Yeah, like the raptor's looking.

[D]

Okay. Guess.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Anyway. This work with a dog? You know, like, I feel like it's hard to tell with yams. She's old and maybe can't hear anymore, but.

[D]

Right.

[C]

I don't ever remember her reacting adversely to like a dog barking on tv. But I think some dogs.

[A]

My dog does non stop. Yeah, okay.

[C]

Just personality wise.

[A]

And now she's a little older. It does sort of depend on what the dog is doing on. On the television screen. You also really don't realize until you have a dog how many goddamn commercials have a dog in. It's unbelievable.

[D]

There's a lot.

[A]

There's a so many. But yeah, she wrote, she'll react, but she'll pick and choose which ones.

[D]

Right.

[A]

She'll react to. And I already told you the way you blow the hole. Maybe, but maybe what they're saying, I don't know, maybe she's like, oh, she's looking. Luna looks up at the tv. What the hell that dog just say? Can't say that on television. But she also doesn't like these raptor sounds as we've gone over too. So maybe there's a shared language.

[D]

Look, it's. It's a sound editing problem. Where, where it's. It's. You see a dog on screen and you have to make it do like vocalize something. You know what I mean? Like there's always a whimper. There's always a. Or like a bark or whatever. It's like I'm. My dog barks a lot. But not just hanging around, you know what I mean?

[A]

No, there's no reason.

[D]

Yeah, there's no reason.

[A]

Yeah. Well, the group reaches the coast. Man, this fly is driving me nuts.

[C]

Yeah, it's going in today for sure.

[B]

We're in a navy area. Come on in. Come on in, bud.

[D]

Oh, geez.

[B]

I got a thumb on that.

[A]

Did you? You touched him.

[B]

I touched that.

[A]

Hold on. Does anyone have a little fly larynx? Call it.

[D]

Sorry, man.

[A]

Call for help.

[C]

We need a Venus fly trap to wander.

[A]

All right. The group reaches the coast and they See that Ellie had called in the Marine Corps and the Navy to rescue them. I guess her hut like was it implied. Her husband basically did. He works for the State Department.

[D]

Throwaway line until dinner.

[A]

It was. It was she. They did say it. So anyway, because why would you call her?

[C]

Why would you not call Ian Malcolm, who has been to site B? He's too high on himself, I guess.

[A]

So it's going to go to voicemail for sure.

[C]

Riverside B. What are you talking about? I've never been there. I'll call Malcolm then I'll call Mar.

[D]

Right. That's how petty he is. It's another next level. He can't even bring himself to call Dr. Malcolm for help. Who is the most logical person?

[A]

Well, my. One of the favorite, funniest lines of the movie was when they do show up on the beach or they see them, Dr. Grant just drops a God bless you, Ellie. God bless you, Ellie. And they discover that Billy seriously injured but was also rescued. Dude, when that happened, I'm not sure. It looked like they were just arriving. So how did he get saved? I don't get that. But maybe they split up, I guess.

[B]

Yeah, I have no idea. There's a lot of Billy blood in the water too, but a lot of Billy blood.

[A]

A lot of Billy blood. But this guy somehow had the time. Billy getting destroyed by all these pterodactyls or pteranodons to save Dr. Grant's fedora aura.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

That's crazy to me that I saved this.

[D]

I saved this for you. I've heard different.

[C]

It means he's close enough to the other party to find the hat.

[D]

Right?

[C]

But doesn't help, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He's like, oh, man, I just got. I got pecked so many times by the pteranodons. Now I'm trying to get out here. Oh, grab that hat. That looks like they're fighting the spinosaurus in the water. I'll give them the hat when I see him next.

[A]

Yeah, I'll just wear this hat.

[C]

It sneaks around.

[A]

What were you gonna say?

[D]

I've heard conflicting reasons why Billy is alive. The first one was that and this I don't believe at all that it tested badly. That test audiences. Yeah, they. They. They prefer if Billy survived. I don't believe that for a second. The second thing that I heard was that the actor complained about dying and so the director just put him back in. That's the only thing that makes sense.

[A]

That's even crazier, man.

[D]

It is crazier. But what test audience would be that upset that Billy.

[A]

I think you'd be surprised.

[B]

Billy is an American hunk.

[A]

I thought he is a good looking guy for sure. He's no William H. Macy for sure, but there's no doubt. I. I thought it was like, because who knows in 2001 where they're going with this franchise? I have no idea. But like a part of me was like, oh, Billy's going to take over here. Like, Billy's going to be the new doctor. Sure. In the next coming franchise. So I was like, yeah, maybe that's why you keep him alive. Not that he's good.

[D]

Yeah, no, he's terrible. That's not his fault. It's not his fault. Okay, am I going to blame the actors here?

[A]

All right. Well, as they leave the island, they see the pteranodons fly by. And we get another funny line at the end of this movie. Eric wonders what they're up to. Dr. Grant says, oh, they're likely looking for new nesting grounds. And Amanda, she drops a. I dare him to nest in Enid, Oklahoma. Oh, my God, shut up. I hated that line.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

That was such a bad line. We did not need that.

[D]

Nope.

[B]

And a laugh Willie made.

[A]

I got my wife back. Our plan worked perfectly, honey. We killed your husband. Your.

[B]

Your boyfriend.

[D]

Your boyfriend of a few months.

[A]

Oklahoma. Spell that backwards. It's dying.

[D]

To further the dream. The dream theory. I mean, it is a surreal ending with a man just randomly on the beach in a suit. It's very dreamlike. Yeah, you know, it is.

[A]

It is.

[D]

And then, you know, 150 soldiers come up behind him kind of thing.

[A]

And then our final scene, we end on a majestic shot of the three winged dinosaurs soaring amongst the clouds. Which I guess was a callback, right? A little bit to.

[D]

To the Pelicans.

[A]

JP1.

[C]

JP1.

[A]

JP1. And the Pelicans.

[D]

Yeah, I guess.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

I mean, shouldn't that. The army should be shooting them down, right? Like.

[A]

Yeah, they're.

[D]

Oh, they're just looking for new nesting grounds. It's like where.

[A]

Hey, look, they get close.

[D]

Costa Rica.

[A]

Oklahoma. They'll take them down, but.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[A]

Okay. That's the movie. Wow. What a movie. Do you have a favorite scene? Task. Favorite scene? Well, we can move with some pace here.

[B]

Favorite scene.

[A]

What's your favorite scene from Jurassic Park 3?

[B]

Physically, I like the two dinos going at it at the beginning.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Spinosaurus versus the T. Rex. Yeah. Good battle.

[B]

That was fun. It's fun to watch. It was fun to watch. From. I. I imagine myself in Dr. Grant's spot in that little trench from down low. I'm. I mean, it was fun.

[C]

I like some fun.

[A]

He's like, I wish I had my camcorder on me. I love to get. Get this great footage. All right. What about you, Trey?

[C]

I like three scenes. I like. I like when the raptors start chasing them in the park center. Like they find it in the lab and you know, the door part of that I think is cool. I like the beginning of the bird cage scene when they're like walking through the ruins of the Avary and the bridge. Is it going to give out? Is it not? The staircase falls away. And then of course, I love when the raptor says Alan.

[A]

Just very funny to me. The dream sequence on. What about you, J.D. we know you don't like this movie.

[D]

Yeah, I did not enjoy this movie. The plane crash I found quite thrilling. I thought, you know, them taking off, Cooper coming out. Yeah. Hitting the spino and then crashing in the forest. I thought was. Was pretty cool.

[A]

And I sort of glossed over the whole spinosaurus trying to get into the airplane and like rolling it and stuff. Like them inside of it.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately I was out of the movie by that point. But. But that was a decent scene. And I agree with Trey. When they're chasing around the. The raptors in the. In the lab, I think was the best raptor part. But yeah, there's not much else in this movie for me.

[A]

Did you have a favorite character or dinosaur from JP3? God, yeah.

[D]

I mean, shout out to the T Rex. I mean, come on. You know, Short Shrift. I'm always happy to see Michael Jeter. You know, know Udeski.

[A]

That's Udesi.

[D]

Yeah, but everybody else. No.

[A]

What's his most famous role?

[D]

Udesky, Fisher King, probably.

[A]

He's in the Green Mile too, right?

[D]

Oh, yeah, he's in the Green Mile.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Air Bud. Of course. Air Bud.

[A]

Yeah. Bud. Yes.

[C]

Yeah, he loses Bud.

[D]

That's right. He was very mean to Bud.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He is Bud's owner. Original owner.

[D]

Bad guy.

[A]

What about you, Trey? Any favorite character or dinosaur?

[C]

I like Paul Crow, Kirby. I actually like William H. Macy. I think it's like the guy is made to be a sad sack fraud. And that's what he plays in this one. Yeah, but he also gets ripped and knows how to swim. Dinosaur wise. I like that we go to the air. I like the Toronto Dons. And I also like. There's this one scene where a random spiny dinosaur walks by. It looks like a Big old turtle. I think it's called an Ankylosaurus. Doesn't do anything, just walks by. Oh, yeah, we'll just throw a dinosaur in here.

[A]

That's a good one.

[C]

Just walks by a stream.

[A]

Tass, any favorites from the humans or the dinos?

[B]

Give me Eric.

[A]

I thought Eric was okay, too.

[C]

Give me Eric.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

He'S not a bad child actor.

[C]

No, no, he wasn't bad, for sure.

[D]

No, he's good. He's good. When he first appears on screen, it's like he literally ran off the set of Jumanji onto the set of. It's like, is that Robin Williams? Because he's wearing the exact same outfit. Like, the leaves and stuff. Like, honestly, it was like, made me double take. Like, am I. Is this a different movie? You know, like, is this a dream?

[B]

He also looks, like 20 years older at. From the beginning to the end of the movie. I'm exaggerating, but he looks way older.

[D]

Yeah, thank you for mentioning that.

[A]

Maybe just during the movie or something.

[D]

Yeah, it's like they took six months off and this. He had a growth spur or something.

[B]

Something.

[D]

I don't know. But he definitely seems way older by the end of the movie.

[B]

Maybe he hit puberty by the end of the movie. Could be changed.

[A]

I was gonna say maybe T. Rex piss is like steroids guzzling it.

[C]

I never want to leave.

[A]

So random notes or observations that maybe we missed. I do have one here. JP3 was originally going to be called Jurassic Park Extinction, but then Universal decided to drop it because it suggested a definite ending to the franchise. Hmm. Which is funny because, you know, as we know, moving forward, we're not gonna have another Jurassic park movie for, like, 14 years here. So it sort of did end in a way, but they. They didn't want to call it Jurassic Park Extinction. Extinction. It went with three instead because they thought the fourth was coming soon after.

[C]

I guess so, yeah. Because what did you say it made? Like $350 million or something like that, which is a lot, but not a lot for Jurassic Park. So this did kind of kill it. I saw also that this is the only poster to. The dog doesn't have the T. Rex on. It has the spinosaurus, which I didn't even really notice until I saw that that was mentioned.

[A]

Interesting.

[C]

They did our guy wrong, man.

[A]

Yeah, that.

[C]

They killed him off.

[A]

Well, speaking of sort of posters, I saw that this film had 10 proposed taglines, but none of them were used. Okay, I want you to tell me what is your favorite one of these ten that they should have went with Jurassic park three. Here's the tagline. What didn't kill them made them strange, stronger. Okay. Survival of the fittest. Fiercer, faster, free. Nature takes no prisoners. Only the strongest survive. Evolve or die. An instinct for destruction. Their time has come. Their world, their rules. And this time, it's not just a walk in the park. Those were the 10 taglines proposed. Maybe there was a reason they didn't go with that study.

[D]

The this ain't no walk in the park is. Is a tagline of a current movie that's coming out. Primitive War, I think it's called. Okay, so I don't like that one.

[A]

Though, because they're not at the Jurassic Park.

[D]

No, I know they're not on that. I'm not saying I like it. I'm just saying that it's. It's being used. So. Okay, I like their rules. What was it?

[A]

Their rules. Their rules is not bad. Yeah. How about. How about this one? I thought of some other. Well, I only thought of one other 1. Jurassic Park 3. Only dinosaurs can save your marriage. Because that's what happens here. It's a great point. We think, at least I think they're back together. Right?

[C]

Seems like.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Until, you know, they last six months, probably.

[A]

Oh, that's tough. That's tough. Any other random observations?

[C]

When they find the T. Rex snacking, you know, they get chased away by the spinosaurus pretty early once they lay, stand, and they run into the T. Rex feeding. And Dr. Grant says, nobody move a muscle. And it looks up and yells and they all sprint away.

[D]

Right.

[B]

Good gag.

[A]

He's always telling people not to move.

[C]

I like it.

[A]

Joe.

[C]

Joe got me on there. I love it when Grant almost gets stepped on, but saved by the trees.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Hanging in the little. The crevice.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I liked the logos off the top of this movie. We're getting the ripple effect, right? Universal logo, Chamblyn logo. Jurassic Park 3 logo. I didn't mind that. Even though these dinosaurs, as we've said, have a very light foot, actually.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

Not a lot of rumbling.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Or rippling going on. Any other notes from you guys?

[D]

Yeah, I don't. I don't love the. The constant emasculation of a safe man. Do you know what I mean? Like, I feel like sad dads write these movies sometimes. You know what I mean? Like, sure. It's like you. You. He would have been so safe with you. Like. But she says it in such a disdained voice. You know what I mean?

[A]

Like, didn't she say something like, you drive five miles under the speed limit.

[D]

Yeah, true.

[A]

Which loser?

[D]

Yeah, you know, exactly.

[C]

Like Ben and almost get my son.

[D]

Exactly. Yeah, yeah. I wrecked the car three times, you know, like.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

It's just like.

[A]

Okay, that's not something to be proud of.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. It's like. I don't know. Know. I would argue that driving five miles under the speed limit is not very safe. But. But still. Well, you're just a menace to everybody else who's trying to pass.

[B]

But anyways, I guess you could write that in the early 2000s. Yeah, you don't. They don't write like that anymore.

[D]

That's good. That's good.

[B]

Get away from the emasculating.

[D]

Well, you know, I mean, you know, you don't need it, I guess.

[B]

Yeah, well, I guess. Yeah, I mean, that whole relationship just ain't that good.

[D]

Well, because they're cardboard characters and they're not really thought hot out. I mean, that's the. At the end of the day, that's what it is. And you know, you have one woman on the cast, you know, and she. You paint her as an absolute dolt. Does not, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And you know, Te Leone is. Is. She's a better actor than that. All of these actors are better than this. So I just feel bad for them.

[A]

Jurassic Park 3 rotten tomatoes does not enjoy it. Scored a 49% too high on the tomato meter. That's from the critics. 49% percent. An abysmal 37 on the popcorn meter.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

That's the fan reviews. 250, 000 plus fan reviews on this. So 37 there, 49 from the critics. Like I said. Roger Ebert, though, gave it three out of four stars.

[D]

Okay, Roger, you are all of your. These ratings.

[A]

He rated this the exact same as Jurassic park one. Think of that. Three to four stars. He said, quote, I am aware that Jurassic Park 3 is shorter, cheaper, and with fewer pretensions than its predecessor. Excuse me. And yet there was nothing I disliked about it and a lot of admire in its lean, efficient storytelling. I can't praise it for its art, but I must not neglect its craft. And on that basis, I recommend it. That's a guy that's seen too many movies.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And his job is to watch movies. He's literally just like, hey, you made it short. Thanks.

[D]

I got to go home.

[A]

Yeah, I got in and out respect sort of how I felt too in now doing this here with the Jurassic Palace. I actually admired it for this.

[D]

The brevity yeah.

[C]

So I think he gave Jumanji one star.

[A]

Wow. Yeah.

[C]

So curveball. Wouldn't expect it.

[A]

No, for sure. Okay, so on a scale of 1 to 10, how are you ranking Jurassic Park 3? And then, of course, where are you slotting it in the three movies we've seen so far? We'll start with you, Trey.

[C]

Swerve alert. I like Jurassic Park 3.

[D]

Wow.

[C]

I kind of agree with Roger Ebert. It feels like a B movie movie because it's so much faster. Or like the pilot to what will become a prestige TV series. The characters aren't well developed, but it's quick. It's fast. I like some of the, like, classic movie stuff we see in it. Like, you know, the pteranodon chasing down Billy is like an Alfred Hitchcock kind of shot. There's a few of those in here. I feel like the part where they're looking through the Aviary is basically an Indiana Jones movie, even down to Dr. Grant wearing a fedora during it. These seem like callbacks to classic films to me. And for that reason, I like it. Six and a half out of ten.

[A]

Okay, this is the, this is the question. Are people going to rank this higher than Lost World? That's, I think, what we get at here. He does just, just, just. What about you, J.D.

[D]

That'S a three out of ten for me.

[A]

Okay. You think the Lost World is better than this movie?

[D]

Yes, I do. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

By two points. Cuz I, I gave that five out of ten.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You know, Trey, your, your. You, you're. Your point about the, the. The shots that are in it that are sort of derivative. I mean, that's maybe the one good thing about it. There are a couple of decent action scenes in this, but the characters are complete morons. The. It lost me with the dream of the. The Allen, you know, the. Of the. Of the raptor.

[A]

Best part.

[D]

I mean, maybe. And maybe if I look at this again and. And it is all a dream, maybe. Maybe I can find some subtext in here. But I hated it. This will not be the least. This will not be the lowest ranking and I think in this whole franchise. I don't think.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

But yeah, three out of ten for me.

[A]

Okay, so you have it last right now though, they're going JP1. Yeah, Lost World, and then this one. Tas, where you putting how you rank in rating this one?

[B]

Listen, I. I'm going higher than the Lost World. We come in with expectations, definitely lowered here in number three versus number two after Dress park number one. There's no Doubt about that. But the animatronics way better in this. So more fun to watch the 90 minutes versus two hours.

[D]

Oh, my God. Okay, I know it starts.

[A]

I'm sorry. It. It matters.

[B]

What matters is the last 20. The last 20 minutes of the Lost World when it literally is a scene after these guys just died for no reason. I'm dead. If you cut out half an hour of the end of that movie, it's literally 90 minutes. We do need. Do not need to see San Diego. Even though it's sort of fun, it could be the best part. It does look cool. But, you know, you kind of have a. Like, because of those lower expectations and that lessened cast, I would say a little bit, you know. No, no, Vince, no. Goldblum expectation is super low. I'm going for knockout. I'll go five. Five out of ten. Five out of ten for me.

[A]

And you had the Lost World very low.

[B]

Yeah, well, yeah, that was coming right off the Jurassic Park.

[A]

Well, I agree with. I ultimately agree with Tas and Trey that I think this is a better movie than the Lost World. I do.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

I think it is. Overall, like, I enjoyed it a lot more. And again, yeah, maybe it's expectations and where. What you're coming off of and all that. I get that. That. But I wasn't. I was bored at times during the Lost World. Like, there was like two or three times, like, get on with it. What are we doing? Like, and I didn't really feel that way with this because they sort of kept the pace going pretty good. So I have it just a little bit better. I'll give it a five because I had Lost World at four, so.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I agree with just where I slot it with these guys. JD Is the only one saying it's the worst of the bunch right now.

[D]

Maybe I'm wrong.

[A]

Maybe we are. Maybe.

[C]

Maybe you're not. A lot of people agree with you.

[A]

Yeah. Well, let's hear what the people think. Everybody watching and listening to Jurassic Pals. Do you agree with JD do you agree with the. The three of us? Where are you putting it right now? Through three movies in the franchise when it comes to above Lost World or below Lost. Or is it somebody going to really say, this is the best of the three?

[C]

I like it better.

[D]

That would be crazy.

[C]

No flying dinos in Jurassic Park.

[A]

1. That would be crazy. True. So that's it for Jurassic Parks, really. Right. We now pivot to Jurassic Worlds, to the world. We go to the worlds. We're going to 2015 Jurassic World it's Chris Pratt time, baby. But we are. Like I said, like that is. This was 2001. Now we're going to 2015. So a huge gap here. It really gets cloudy to me, like which ones of these Jurassic worlds I've seen or haven't.

[D]

Right.

[A]

I don't know. Yeah, I think I've seen pieces of some of them or maybe I've seen this one, but I haven't seen this one. So can't wait to find out if it's any good. But that'll be next week on Jurassic Pals. 2015's Jurassic World. All right, fun. We. I think we did a longer podcast than the actual movie that could be.

[D]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

All right, well, that's the first here on Jurassic palace, but probably more to come like that. Appreciate you joining us. Hit the like button. Subscribe five star ratings and reviews. Until next time. Does anybody have a quote from maybe this movie or one of the movies we've seen so far you want to end on?

[C]

Billy was right. No, he wasn't totally right.

[A]

Or maybe we could, you know. Okay, we'll see you next week on Jurassic Pals. And remember, it's just all a dream.

[B]

It.