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Foreign. Welcome to Jurassic Pals, the no Dunk summer podcast series where we're watching and reviewing every movie from the Jurassic park franchise. Today we're at the sixth film, Jurassic World. Dominion. I'm Jay Skeets here in the classic factory, and alongside me, he'll never leave a hat behind. It's Tasmelas.
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It's totally true. I am the Dr. Grant of this show.
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I was so happy to see you.
C
Were wearing a hat.
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Yeah, it worked out perfectly.
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Next to him, he has a callus on his shin bone. It's Trey Kirby. Hey. And last but not least, and I believe this is actually true, he also likes redheads.
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It's super producer jd.
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Absolutely right.
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You do. I feel like you've said that before.
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Of course.
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Fantastic. Hello to everybody joining us for another Jurassic Pals here having a blast this summer rewatching all these movies. Jurassic world. Dominion released June 10, 2022. So a few years ago, the budget, estimated budget of up to 465 million. The most expensive film ever made.
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Yeah, baby.
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And because of COVID filming was suspended for several months and the release was delayed by a year. So maybe that did add to the costs. I think at one point they were just renting out a complete hotel to try and get this movie made. So, you know, not cheap, but wild. Wild that. This is one of the most expensive movies ever made. Box office, though, it was a financial success. Grossed 1 billion worldwide. So they did it again. People just can't quit these dinosaurs.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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Anybody see this one in theaters?
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No. I had never seen this movie and I wish I never had. Yep. Spoiler. I did not like this one. The skinny though, with Dominion. Four years after the destruction of Isla Nublar, Biosyn operatives attempt to track down Maisie Lockwood, while Dr. Sattler investigates a genetically engineered swarm of giant insects. We're talking a lot about locusts. Big bug movie.
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Literal big bugs.
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The runtime. My God. The longest of the movie franchise. Two hours and 26 minutes. And now. I didn't do it. I don't know if you sickos did. There's an extended version of this already very long movie.
B
I thought this was the extended portion.
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So you didn't watch the 240 plus version, Trey?
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I did not.
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JD's nodding. Oh God. He did it.
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Yep. You like poachers? Get more poachers, you get a 65 million year old dinosaur fight.
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Hey.
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What?
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Okay, yeah, it starts. They filmed that? Yeah.
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Okay, so we're going to Recap the normal version, but you feel free to pepper in any of the extended scenes that we need to talk about for the real.
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All my insight.
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Yes, yes. It stars everybody. I mean, almost everybody. We got Chris Pratt, we got Bryce, Dallas Howard, we got Laura Dern, we got Jeff Goldblum, we got Sam Neill and a bunch of other returning characters as well. Directed by Colin Trevorrow. He is back. He's even back as well. He did Jurassic World, which we did like, and then he was gone for Fallen Kingdom, but he's back here. Fall for Dominion. I will say before we jump into this and go through it sort of scene by scene, this was the most difficult one to try and keep track of. Thank God for IMDb plot synopsis and Wikipedia and all that. They've been helping me out throughout this entire series. But this one is. Well, do your head in, because we are bouncing around. There's so many characters. We're jumping from here to there.
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We're around the world.
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Yeah. So I'm like, apologizing in advance if I'm skipping over things and stop me if I've missed something important to you.
D
It's going to get confusing. Look, I think the first probably one hour of this movie is straightforward. And then we get to our two, and there are at least four different movies going on at the same time.
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Yes, there are. And we are bouncing between them and then they come together. But anyway, let's make our way through it. So four years after the Lockwood estate incident and the volcanic eruption on Isla Nublar De, extinct dinosaurs now freely are roaming the Earth, causing ecological disasters and deadly animal attacks. We learn all of this by way of a classic. Like, now this video report, which I actually was a fan of, I thought it was a pretty cool start to the movie. Now, I was rolling my eyes at the concept that we're just like, we're living day to day with these dinosaurs. But it was, I thought, presented pretty cool, this little, like, documentary, like, here we are in today's world. No. You didn't like that?
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It was a bit of a sellout to me. This movie is going to be unable to explain itself. So here we have to explain it to you, basically, is what I felt.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You know, I didn't mind seeing a news report.
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Oh, that was cool.
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Yeah, I felt like, you know, it's. It's released in 2022, as you said. Those news reports, I guess, were becoming more prominent then. Yeah, I would say, because there's about a thousand callbacks in this show. To. In the show, in this movie, to different parts of the Jurassic World. Maybe this movie was made ahead of its time. Just because all of the callbacks. Everything is getting remade from 2022 to 2025.
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So they just remade everything.
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And they had a news report in there. It just added another element that was not needed really.
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They set the table at least. Like, here's what's happened in these last three or four years since these incidences and since the volcano eruption.
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Have we ever seen. I mean, now this is. Is that still a thing? I mean, I don't know. And I don't remember ever seeing like a walk and talk, like an actual reporter on the ground in a. Yeah. In a. In a. Now this. Am I wrong? Like, I don't know.
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I mean, they made a ton of those.
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I know. But I. Yeah, I guess this is well produced, though.
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A little too well to their feed.
C
It was better than the BBC report, you know.
D
It was really good.
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Yeah.
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So I had a couple of laughs. The pterodactyl snatching up one of the birds they released at the wedding. I thought that was pretty good. I like that. They show the Lockwood estate, the manor that we saw at the end of Fallen Kingdom. They just call it a bizarre event because that was pretty bizarre. Remember when the Indoraptor broke out of the basement of Benjamin Lockwood's estate and then tried to eat a girl on the top of it? That was bizarre.
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That was weird.
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And I like that they have like a vote of the public of what they should do with the dinosaurs. And the choices are destroy them. Let them live in a sanctuary. Just allow them to live wherever they want. Or rebuild Jurassic Park. Not enough votes for rebuild Jurassic Park.
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No. 7% is what I tracked.
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Yeah.
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Dropping. How would you have voted in said poll? Again? Your four options. Destroy them with the dinosaurs, move them to a sanctuary, allow them to live in the wild like you sort of are right now. Or rebuild Jurassic Park World. How is past Melis voting?
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Give me that sanctuary.
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Okay. Yeah. That's very nice.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Like the Biosyn sanctuary. You're good with how that's going. Personally, I want to rebuild the original park.
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Okay. Yeah.
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Let's just see if we can do it better this time.
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Okay. I can't believe you didn't say kill them. You've been saying for like the last five movies. What are we doing? Just destroy these dinosaurs already.
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Obviously, that's the right choice.
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JD's.
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I cloned a gene when I was in college. I got a Health science degree. So there's a little part of me that thinks maybe, just me. Maybe if we try it again, we can get it right.
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The eternal optimist. I love it. I love it.
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What about you, jd?
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Kill them.
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Kill them all.
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Kill them all.
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Kill them all. And please, kill this franchise already.
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The other thing I thought, seeing this update from now this, is that. In your face, Amanda Kirby. The dinos made it to Enid, Oklahoma. They should have checked in with her.
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Oh, yeah.
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I never thought they would get. Now they're destroying our crops.
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It's a great point. That was the one person that didn't return right in this franchise for this movie. All right, well. Amid global efforts to control the invasive species, Biosyn Genetics established a dinosaur sanctuary preserve in Italy's Dolomite Mountains where they conduct research. So they are seeking groundbreaking pharmacological and agronomic applications. So we do have Biosyn Genetics, and they're doing what TASS voted for, and that is obviously getting the sanctuary going. Now they're doing a lot of other things.
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Yeah, exactly. That's the problem with Biosyn is that it ain't about the dinos at all. That's unfortunate. Here we are, though. The dole mites are happening.
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So many things are happening.
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So many things are happening.
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One of the few mountain ranges we.
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Visit in this movie. That's right. That's right. So Biosyn has been granted exclusive exclusiv. I can't say that word. Exclusivity. This is the one word I'm struggling with in a. In a franchise with all these dinosaurs.
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There's some crazy dinosaur names in this one, too.
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They got the exclusive rights to dinosaur research.
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They got the IP.
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Jesus. JPIP. Yes. Business is booming for them. And the CEO of BioSynth, Lewis Dodson. Dodson Crazy Fracture Park One. That's the guy who met with Nedry. They were at that restaurant. Outdoor restaurant. And Nedry, obviously, the computer programmer at the park, and he's the one that accepts the bribe from Biosyn to smuggle dinosaur embryos off the island. Unbelievable.
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Consider this fan service.
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Yep.
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Yep. Why else would you put him in here? Well, yeah, I mean, it's just like.
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Okay, do we ever get the term, the company name, Biosyn Genetics in Jurassic Park 1?
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No.
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Like, we get Dodgson, but we do. We know he.
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Oh, like, that's a great question. Actually, I can't remember.
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I don't know if he says it. Yeah, because I think people say that Biosynthesis is like the rival company in the original Jurassic park novel.
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Novel. Okay. Yeah.
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Did it make it to the screen? I don't know.
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Yeah, I don't remember.
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Bio Sin to sin what they're doing. Yes, I picked up on that.
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But it's called syn, right?
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Yes, yes.
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Yeah, Just making sure.
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But, jd, you were very excited because you were in the Jurassic Pals slack when you first saw Dodgson return.
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Well, I would. I didn't make the connection. I watched the entire movie, and then I was like, okay, that's weird that he has a Barbasol can. But then I was like, oh, wait, that's Dawson. Oh, my God.
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Back to JP1.
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I was like, sitting in the sauna at the gym going, hold on a second.
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Excuse me. Oh, I wish you had, like, you were like the Charlie Day, it's always sunny and you're doing the board and you're figuring out how to do it.
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I was. In my mind. In my mind. Yeah, yeah.
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Just while you were sitting there in a towel.
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Yeah. You know, miss my meditation time. I'm thinking, thinking it through and I'm like, hold on a second. And I slacked. You guys from the sauna. I was like, oh, Sona slacks and Stodson.
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Hey, I was excited, Stan. I was excited. So Claire, Zia, and Franklin. Yes, they return to this movie. They are investigating illegal dinosaur breeding sites, and they're gathering proof of cases of animal cruelty. So cruelty is going to be a podcast, man. But, you know, I guess they're. They're still sort of like working together. Like they were at the dinosaur Protection Group, and they're still trying to save these dinosaurs from everything going on. But, you know, we have a big scene where they're saving these dinosaurs, blah, blah, blah, blah. But Franklin, he's. He's tired of this. Like, he's done at the end of it, he's like, what am I doing? I'm gonna get a real job, go.
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Work for the CIA.
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Yeah, it turns out he had a pretty good job right away. Choices. Anything from them? Freeing, I guess. Was it stegosaurus? I don't know what they were freeing anymore.
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Yeah, look, I put car chase through a Triceratops field. Who knows, maybe they were running away from cow shaped ones at some point. Again, Claire was going to gas every one of these dinosaurs at the end of Fallen Kingdom, but now she has a clone daughter, so she loves the animals. Yeah. And that's why she's saving them. Even though. But even Zia and Franklin can't believe it. They're like, you shouldn't be doing this, Claire.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Even though you've changed your footwear, you should not be doing this. And we're not going to keep doing this. And by the way, we're out of this movie. But thanks for having us back.
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Yeah. They were way less annoying in this one.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Franklin especially.
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Yes.
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But they're barely in it, too.
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They're barely in it.
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Yeah. I do. I do like one trope that Jurassic Park Slash World loves to do, and that is vans open or van doors open at the back. Great point. We have seen this so many times now. Could somebody lock the door?
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They never have locking mechanisms in Jurassic Park 1, and they've never changed it ever since.
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Never lock a car being shot at. Or maybe dinosaurs getting in all that. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And maybe if they are closed, then you'll re. You'll think to yourself, oh, they're staying alive while every other Jeep gets hit. And maybe there's a little bit of logic to it because you don't see what's going on behind them, but somehow this Jeep. It's a Jeep, right?
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They're in a van, I thought. Aren't they not.
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Anyways, they're in a van.
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It's like a panel van.
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Yeah.
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How does that not get hit? All the others get destroyed. This one's just cool. No problem.
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Did they shoot the rear tire out as well? It sure looks like they got hit. They're still going. It's fine. As if nothing happened.
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She's a great driver.
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Awesome.
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She already proved that she could take, like, a truck and get it airborne onto a ship.
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That's tricky.
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That was her driving with the wheel.
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That's why she's still in this game. She's like, I'm here for the van. I just want to drive a van. I'm so good at it.
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Maybe it has one of those durable tires that Minnie used to drive. JD Maybe it has one of those.
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Well, then, if that's the case, Franklin, Zia or Claire should yell, it's a run flat back to the people chasing her. Okay, so they. They get away. We can keep going.
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Here.
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Claire's partner, Owen Grady, We. We see him again. This is Chris Pratt. He is helping relocate stray dinosaurs. So he's working with a cool couple. Cool ranchers. Cowboys, I guess.
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Yeah.
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Unnamed guys, from what I could tell.
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You see them in the extended cut.
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Oh, you do? There's more on these two guys helping Owen.
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One of them is a woman, actually.
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Excuse me.
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Sorry. Yeah, sorry. They're both Native Americans, I believe.
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Oh.
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And they're from. They're both fishing game officers.
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Oh.
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So they're collecting these dinosaurs one by one, I. I guess.
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In the Sierra Nevada mountains.
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Yeah, yeah. And they get robbed of that dinosaur. Dinosaur. By poachers. In the extended cut by Dellencourt, by Delacourt reign.
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Delacourt. Okay. But in our version, we sort of get a beautiful scene, just a majestic chasing down those Elvis ones. And they get the one, and Pratt manages to obviously capture it. Okay. Yep.
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Look.
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He palms them and calms them, even here. I didn't know it worked on ones you didn't train, but it does, and it works a lot in this movie. The palm has become the Force, as we will see. But the beginning of this just felt to me like Colin Trevorrow was like, what if we did a car chase, but it was dinosaurs? What if we did a Western, but it was dinosaurs? What if we did Taken, but it was dinosaurs? And that's what the whole movie is.
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You keep going.
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Yeah, totally. But I. I like Westerns.
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Yeah.
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No, this was one of the coolest looking parts.
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Yeah.
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With his lasso. Like, they only saved one of these dinos, though.
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Yeah, It's.
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I didn't think it was a very efficient plan.
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You know, it's like. It's a needle in a haystack. Or it's like, you know, it's a drop in the bucket, I guess. Like, it's just. What are you doing, guys? You're just spending a lot of energy here. One at a time. Claire, Owen, come on, guys.
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Yeah.
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Get organized. Let's go back.
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Dinosaurs are there, too.
C
That's great.
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We don't never learn that.
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I don't. Yeah.
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How many are in the wild? I know they're populating and all that, but give us a number.
B
Yeah, give us a number.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you said the Force. This is Star Wars. This is. This whole. This guy got fired from Star Wars. He's like, I'm making Star Wars. They even go to director. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that is the Jedi mind trick.
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Oh, yeah.
C
The Palm is absolutely 100%.
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Well, at their remote cabin in the mountains, which I guess we did learn was in the Sierra Nevada mountains.
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There we go.
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We were wondering, in Fallen Kingdom, where is that beautiful cabin that they're building? Claire and Owen are Secretly raising their 14 year old, I guess, daughter, you know, adopted daughter. This is Maisie Lockwood, Benjamin Lockwood's biogenetic granddaughter. And they are protecting her from groups seeking to exploit her Unique genetic makeup. So she's basically under house arrest. She's told to never go across the bridge. She immediately goes across the bridge.
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No way.
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And I thought this was the weirdest scene of the entire movie. She does that, right? She leaves on her bike, and then she just seems to end up at, like, a. A logging company and is just. Yes, they. There's some Brachiosaurus that have, like, sort of moved in on the territory, and they got to, like, get them. Get them out of the way.
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And she helps out.
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Did. How did she help out?
B
She advised.
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She was telling somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
You use a flare. They love those.
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Oh, she did say that.
C
She doesn't say it. You don't hear. Like, she whispers it to the guy.
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Oh, okay, I missed that.
B
That's her tip.
C
Okay, maybe that was in the extended version. No, no, no, no.
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I can't believe she was like. Just put your hand up like this. Tell them, like, go like this.
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So you think the brachiosaurs just, like, walked through the construction?
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That's what I thought. What? What did you. What did you think?
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I thought they were sad that the loggers were cutting down the trees and now they have nothing to eat.
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Okay. I mean, you know how I feel about Brachiosaurus. I don't know. I don't know. It was a sad, sad scene.
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It was sad for them just, like, happen to wander through.
C
Right.
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I thought also maybe they were sad because, like, I don't know, the weather.
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It's winter cold.
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That's a great question. I was like, dinos have cold tolerance, I guess.
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Yeah. I mean, 65 million years ago, they didn't.
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Yeah. Climate was different, I suppose.
C
We don't know.
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I don't know, J.D. anything to add to that? Okay, well, we meet Blue. Blue's back baby. The last of the velociraptors Owen raised and trained. And Blue arrives at the cabin with a baby. And Maisie has named it. What is she named it? Beta. That's right. What a callback. Right, Right. Because didn't Owen, once upon a time say he was the alpha of their little group?
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Yeah.
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And that Blue was the beta. Is that right? Yeah. Well, that's the baby now. And Maisie has named that. And it's like, how is this even. How did Blue even have a baby? Asexually reproduced baby.
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That's a problem.
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That is a problem to be a.
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Problem, because you're right. How many dinosaurs are out there? The limit is unknown.
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Yeah.
D
There could be so many of them, but only 37 reported dinosaur deaths in.
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The last year, which is pretty good, I think.
D
Fine. How many reported lion deaths are there in a year? Well, I still have lions.
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Yeah.
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I think we can deal with 40.
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Yeah. Like, I think cows kill 22 people a year, like cows in real life.
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Wow. So 30 horses must kill way more people.
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Absolutely. You would think, right?
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Right. Just from falling off them or being kicked or something like that.
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I'd say deer kill a lot of people just being on the road.
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Well, the point. And that's what they were almost making it seem like a little bit like that. Like they're not coming and killing us, but like they're getting in the way at times.
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They're in the way. They're ruining our weddings.
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Yeah, exactly.
D
Look, I'm seeing 500 elephant deaths a year. 250 lion deaths a year.
C
Oh, so this Google, guys. Just Google, you know, look it up, writers. Geez.
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Just check.
C
Yeah.
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Well, I have a question. Is the idea here Blue is keeping an eye on Owen and Maisie and Claire being close by to the cabin. Because last we saw, Owen says, come on, Blue. Come on, baby girl. I'll take care of you. I'll raise you like a dog. And says, look at the cage. And Blue says, not going in that cage. Takes off. And then we see a later shot. You know, Blue's up in the mountains or whatever in the hilltops. But then. So she's made her way to Owen.
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Yeah, her doing Owen was sticking around or Blue was following Owen. I don't. Yeah, I don't know, because I'm like. It seems like they're just a family and Blue is their pet at this point. But Owen's still scared of Blue. And you're right, Blue ran away.
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Yeah. My gut says Blue just was like, I want to be close by and keep an eye on my guy.
C
Yeah, it's my guy.
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Yeah. Okay. I think there's a little scene here where Blue is teaching the baby raptor how to kill, because there's like a. There's a little rabbit, and then suddenly a wolf appears. And then the baby takes it down. No problem. So it is a killing machine here. Or becoming one, I guess. Taught by Blue.
C
Taught by Blue. Yeah.
D
Each one teach one.
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Yes. So, increasingly frustrated, living in seclusion, Maisie sneaks away to explore some more. But this is where the mercenaries kidnap her. This is. What's his name? Rain Delacourt.
D
Oh, yeah.
A
And so they. They. They capture Maisie, they capture baby raptor, and for no reason at all, they throw a Perfectly fine bike into the river. Not needed, in my opinion.
C
Well, yeah, because you don't want to leave a trace of where she was.
A
Leave the evidence.
C
Yeah, it's evidence.
A
Okay, well, Owen's watching.
C
Yeah. Yeah, he didn't account for that.
A
Right, right. And so now Owen and Claire have a mission. And that is go get Maisie and get that baby raptor back. And that's what I guess Owen tells Blue. Right. Don't worry.
D
I got you.
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I got you. I got you. I got you. So you said there was an extended version of this whole mercenary thing?
C
Well, yeah, it's sort of. Before that, when they take the dinosaur off Chris Pratt's hands and.
A
Oh, okay.
C
Yeah. There's a little more back and forth with, we need the girl.
A
Right.
C
Got to get the girl. You know, don't do anything. We need the Raptor and the girl. We can't just get the Raptor. We need the girl.
A
That kind of. Yeah, they need both.
C
Yeah.
A
And they've been sent by Biosyn.
C
Yeah.
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By. By Dodge.
C
Yeah.
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Yes.
C
I don't know why they're sending these Fly By Night dudes. I know it's illegal and stuff, but just. You got everything else. Yeah, just hire like a SWAT team. Like, mercenaries. Like, Hodgkin's guys are. Hoskins guys, that guy from last time. Right. Like, they're just a private army. Just send them in. Right. Like, yes.
A
I mean, in Delacourt's defense, they did the job.
C
Yeah, that's true. True.
D
He's confident.
A
Yeah. They got them both back on two separate flights.
C
Right.
D
But they showed they know chances, not taking any chances.
C
Right. Two separate flights. One is very janky, let's be honest. And then, you know, she gets put on a private jet, and then BD1 gives her a glass of water. Like, why all this, like, bag over your head kidnapping stuff when, like, it's just not necessary.
A
Like, they have gotta make them the bad guys. Jd.
C
I know, but when she gets there, it's like, I need to study you. It's like, not like I need to dissect you. Right. It's like, I just need some blood and. Just to check you. Check out your genetics.
A
Yeah, but you're crazy if you think Owen and Claire would ever have allowed that.
C
No, I.
A
Right.
C
And I don't think that they should be allowed to do that. But I'm just saying, let's just. Like, Delacorte versus once they get there is just. It's just night and day. It's just no reason to have him like this.
A
You're saying if Dr. Wu showed up at your door and asked, hey, can I get some blood from your. One of your sons, you would turn him away?
C
Well, if he's wearing a cardigan.
A
How sad does he look? Oh, my God.
D
Okay, good point, though. Literally, the only reason that the Ragin Cajuns are here is so that we can have the fight in Malta, where they're chasing around and stuff. Because it would actually be sort of interesting if the people from Biosyn come to Owen, Claire, and Maisie, and they're like, do you want to know the truth about your mom? Wouldn't she want to know the truth about her mom? Which biosin actually has all that information? That would be a good way to lure her there. And that probably cuts 45 minutes out of the runtime because they're just getting to the island right away. And maybe she's, like, conflicted. Like, if I stay with these people, they'll be able to make me a real girl. I think there's something interesting there. But then you don't get to have Mission Impossible in this movie.
A
That's right. Yes. Well, meanwhile, swarms of giant locusts are decimating US crops. And Dr. Ellie Sattler observes that the crops grown by Biosyn seeds, they're left uneaten. What's going on here? Raising some suspicions that Biosyn is maybe creating these insects. Because Dr. Sattler's at this farm that just got destroyed, but then it's looking off, like, whoa, Wait, why is that one still there? Oh, that's Biosyn. And she puts Lush. Yeah. Puts them together and says, hey, something's going on here. So Sattler takes one of the captured locusts. I guess the kid got right with the bucket. Yes, they got one. Yeah. That was pretty impressive by that kid.
C
Yeah, very.
A
Cause the daughter, the older sister, was gonna hit it with a shovel.
C
Was she? She was just standing there.
A
I know she was freaking out, just like.
C
Yeah, ye.
A
Yeah. But smart thinking with the bucket to at least get one.
D
Yeah, that's kind of how we get bugs out of the house, in our house, in a smaller scale, you know, because the bugs are much smaller. So we use a jar and then release it.
A
Oh, that's nice.
D
But I treat them differently. If they're outside, you can live, but in my house, no way.
A
What about your shed, though? Because that's sort of the equivalent of the barn.
C
Yeah.
D
Demilitarize them.
A
So do we have to coexist?
D
Yeah, exactly. It's just like Jurassic World. I've lost a minion in there. But it's okay. We've reached homeostasis. I believe I did like the swarm of locusts the first time they did it. I thought it was a cool, frightening scene.
A
Yeah. Oh, I mean, these giant bugs.
C
Bugs are scary, man.
A
We do have giant bugs here in Georgia, but these are like 100 times size. Yeah.
C
Yeah.
B
I like Dr. Sadler taking her sunglasses off. We're going back. Yeah, I'm good with that. That was fun. More buckets, though, for everybody. For all the locusts, you just need a billion buckets. One by.
A
Dr. Sattler takes the captured locust to her former partner, paleontologist Dr. Alan Grant. And I think he's in Utah, if I remember correctly. And he's still doing his digging thing.
D
Truth is in these rocks.
A
Still digging. And I'm like, dude, you're living with dinosaurs now.
C
Yeah.
A
And I get it. You still want to learn. You know, I'm sure it's adaptable and maybe, I guess, but. Yeah, why just get out there and start researching the real living ones now.
C
Exactly, exactly. I mean, Jurassic Park 3. I get it. You're still holding on.
A
Yes.
C
You're holding on.
A
Yes.
C
This is what, 20 years later.
A
Yeah.
C
You gotta let go, man.
B
But he tells you he's not happy with the situation, that he's not happy with his.
C
His life. Yeah. He's a sad guy.
A
Who's more sad in this movie? Dr. Alan Grant or Dr. Wu?
D
It's a tough set off.
C
Yeah, man.
D
I would though, like a nice super cut. Of all the times Alan Grant has complained about the funding for his, like, man, this. He just must be a bad fundraiser because we've got a guy on the other side of the world who trained Raptors.
C
Right.
D
He trained them. And then we've got a whole underworld apparatus that is selling off these dinos for 20 to 48 million dollars. Not to mention a black market as well. He's the one guy who can't get dinosaur money.
C
Yeah. And he just needs toothbrushes, Right? Like, that's all he needs. Very simple overhead costs, like a shovel and a toothbrush. What else? What else, Doctor, you don't want to use a computer, you know.
A
Dear God. No. There was. I think there's a shot of when they're in the tent or whatever where he lives out there on the dig site. He kept the raptor flute.
D
Yep.
A
You see that? Yes. I wish he played it for her.
D
I got really good at this.
C
Yeah.
D
They haven't kept in touch.
A
No.
D
Apparently haven't talked to each other at all. It'd be awesome. He's like, yeah, I've been practicing the raptor flute. It actually got really good. This means I'm hungry. And this also means I'm hungry.
C
So one of them.
D
Did you learn help. No, no.
C
Before we move on from this, this is one of my. The worst pieces of dialogue is when he's in the hole. He's talking to the girls who are on their phones. Okay? The. You gotta have that in there. Obviously, the naysayers. And then a guy from up above says, hey, Dr. Grant, you gotta see this. Like, cut to Ellie in the tent. Like, that's what you. Yeah, there's a girl in your tent, man. Get up here. Like, you gotta see this.
A
How about.
C
Yeah, you gotta visit her. Dr. Grant, we, the audience, we already know that she's coming. So, like.
A
But maybe that guy. Maybe Dr. Grant has told that unnamed guy. They've had long talks about, like, man, this one woman I fell in love.
C
With, the one that got.
A
Yeah, maybe. And so he's like. He knows it's her, I guess.
C
Sure gotta see it.
B
They just add bad acting to the scene to make it seem like this is the worst scenario here in this movie. Because Dr. Grant's acting as well. I just expected a little more.
A
Oh, I thought they just made Grant. Even Sattler and Malcolm, like, just the sad sack characters and like, dummies of this movie. Like.
B
Yeah, they did.
A
They did. But anyway, she's there. She's seeing Dr. Grant, and she wants him to come with her to infiltrate the Biosyn facility to get DNA sample and prove her theory. Added bonus, she reveals she is now divorced from her husband, Mark. Mark is out of the picture.
C
Sorry, Mark.
A
Mark was a great guy, though. That's what they said.
C
This guy brought in the entire army for her. Like in Jurassic park three Rescued, like, pulled out all.
A
No, he brought in. He brought in the. Didn't he bring in two? Didn't he bring in.
C
Right. The Navy and the Marines. Marines, yeah. And a guy in a suit.
A
Yeah.
C
It's like this guy was State Department. He would have done anything for her.
A
Yeah, but he doesn't please her in the bedroom.
C
Right?
A
Can't play that. I was gonna say he can't play the raptor flute, but anyway, I do.
D
Wish that Dr. Graham was like, oh, he was good to me. He really helped me out the jam one time.
C
Yeah, I love that guy.
D
You got his number. I might need to call him again.
A
Right? I. I became. Look, it Was great to see Dr. Grant again. I thought he looked cool with the white beard. Yeah, totally. He aged really well. I don't know what Mark looks like, but Sattler seems into him still. There's obviously been the chemistry for 25 years. Right?
D
Mark's just overworked, man. He's just always at the State Department handling stuff. Not enough time for Ellie.
A
Yeah, I think you're right.
C
Yep.
A
Franklin, now with the CIA's Dangerous Species Division, the dino division, I guess, of the CIA, believes Maisie may have been taken to Malta. And that's where we're going. We were going to Malta now. And Claire and Owen infiltrate a dinosaur black market with Owen's former Jurassic World colleague, Barry. Barry. He is now leading a French intelligent, you know, team. He's part of that raid. So, everybody, if you worked at Jurassic World, I guess you were smart. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Just get into, like, CIA or French intelligence, or whatever.
D
Yeah, yeah, we see even, like, a binder. And Lowry Crothers was recruited to the CIA as well. Lauren Lapkis character. I don't remember her name.
C
Vivian.
D
Vivian, yeah. Vivian also recruited. So, yeah, they're like, you have the requisite intelligence, and we know you keep calm under pressure because you survived.
A
Right.
D
So I guess this is smart to.
A
Call these people in, you think? That's got to be at the top of your resume CV when you're applying. Like, I survived Jurassic World.
C
Probably.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
D
Put that in, like, your synopsis about yourself, your mission statement. Survive Jurassic park, comma, Jurassic World. They're like, all right, what do you want to do?
C
Yeah, fun fact.
D
We got an opening at the State Department.
A
Yeah.
D
Mark blew it.
A
I did like the one because we were talking about Franklin and how. I mean, you especially. I remember Trey didn't love him in Fallen Kingdom. I thought he had one funny line in this movie. When he's talking to Owen, he says, promise me you won't go in there and you're very. With your vest and mess everything up. Yeah, that made me laugh. It's like your dumb vest that you're gonna put on for sure.
D
So I definitely believe that Franklin would never go back to the island. They convince everybody else to go back at some point.
C
Yeah.
D
Zia would go back, I think.
A
Yeah.
D
Franklin, he's living his truth.
A
He ain't going back. Yep. That's true. That's true. So when authorities launch a raid to arrest the kidnapper, Rain Delacorte, he counterattacks by releasing predator dinosaurs. And this causes a ton of havoc here. This Is a very long scene, an action packed scene. What do you compare it to? Mission Impossible?
D
Mission Impossible. The Bourne.
A
Yeah.
D
Theory or Bourne Ultimatum. Those movies, I think it's similar to that.
C
This felt fast. This was the most fast and furious scene.
A
Also true. Yep, sure.
C
But yeah, yeah. And Creature Cantina, obviously from Star Wars.
A
Yes. Okay, well, Delacourt is killed by the black market dinosaurs after he reveals that he was working for a woman named Soyona Santos during this scene. This part where he's got a couple dinosaurs. Well, I guess before that, Owen and Delacourt, they're like fighting in the pit where they previously showed us where the dinosaurs fight. I could not stop laughing at the degenerate gamblers huddled around the fight between the two men now. And you know they got some bucks on it. While two gigantic dinosaurs are rampaging behind them. Yeah, that's how addicted to gambling they are. I got 10 bucks on this white guy. On the clean cut white guy here.
B
I got a parlay. Humans and dinos are on the ticket.
A
There's two right behind them and they're like so into the fight. They're like, this is awesome. Meanwhile, guys are like catching on fire, getting their heads chomped off.
C
Yeah, this is the black market, man. They've seen it all before.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
D
Not something been crazy like two humans.
A
It never happens down here.
B
Chris Brown has to fight so much in this movie.
A
Yeah, yeah. He. They just made him now a full blown action hero. Right?
C
Yeah.
D
Yes. My notes during this whole sequence, which ultimately I did like because it's an action movie, but the cars that are chasing them are dinosaurs.
A
Yes.
C
I wrote.
D
Is this even a Jurassic park movie? Because it ain't right. Really. It's an action movie. At least through the first hour of this.
A
The group tracks down Sona, the woman all dressed in white, who's sort of like the mastermind, I guess, of really leading the mercenaries and all of this, she unleashes trained dinosaurs as well. And that leads to the insane chase. So there again, the two big beats are. Yeah, the black market part. And then the chase through the city, which continues. And we have. I forget what those raptors are called.
C
What are they like?
A
They're just souped up super versions.
C
Oh, what is it called?
D
Atrociraptor.
C
They commit atrocities.
D
Atrociraptor.
A
The Atrociraptor.
D
The names in this one are pretty funny.
A
This is use the laser gun, mark them, and then you're done. Because they're coming for you. And this is why we get the huge chasing going on, both with Owen on a motorcycle, and then Kayla, who we'll get into helping Claire.
D
Yes.
A
Drive away and all this stuff.
B
So good. Claire versus the woman in white is. It's Aladdin, really. They're jumping through buildings. It's gotta get one jump ahead of the bread line.
C
One jump.
B
So good. Very, very funny.
C
This is by far the best part of the movie for me.
A
Okay.
C
Like, just the chase through the streets. You know, it. What does take me out of it, though, is that the raptors. And this is. This is true of all the dinosaurs. It's very convenient. It's always very convenient. You know, they only run so fast as you run, and then they can run as fast as a car, even faster. Right. They're. They're not good with corners. I'll give.
A
Well, they slip left and right.
C
Yeah. But still, I mean, if you're running down a hall and there's a raptor behind you, you're. You're dead. You're toast. Right. So there's that inconsistency with it. But just the street through. The chase through the streets. Actually good. Actually good.
B
It is fun.
C
And then Kayla, this is. As a fan wanting to be serviced, Kayla says in this movie, she said like five times, hold on tight.
D
I. I know. I couldn't believe it.
A
You could.
C
I mean, yes, she looks like Jeff Goldblum's daughter a little bit, but as.
A
If she was grown up.
C
But why not make her Ray Arnold's daughter? And then she just says, hold on to your butts. Hold on to your butt.
D
I thought for sure she was going to be revealed to be Ray Arnold's daughter.
C
Right.
D
Why does she know so much about dinosaurs and the park and how to get there and everything about it?
C
Yeah.
A
Wow. There is a photo. She's. Hold on tight. She's flying a cargo plane. And there's a photo of what I guess is her parents. Yeah, I didn't pause it to see. Does that look like I did pause and it's not.
C
Yeah. But God, what a blown opportunity. That's something that I would. Okay. That's a cool Easter egg right there.
A
Right?
C
And you get to say, hold on to your butts.
A
Yeah.
C
Which never gets said in this movie.
D
No, it's like the one line that's never been repeated.
A
Nobody smokes anymore.
D
If she was hacking once the whole time.
C
Oh, yeah.
D
That would only drive it home.
C
Yeah.
B
Dr. Malcolm's gotta be. No, he didn't smoke in the first one. So that was my lack of callback.
A
Yeah, but. But Owen. Or what was his name? No. Nick. Vince Vaughn. He smoked, obviously, in the. In the. In Lost World. And then, of course, Samuel Jackson.
C
Yeah.
A
Smoking for everybody. Yeah.
D
There's some parts I liked in this, especially when they're trying to get the atraciraptor back in the cage.
A
Oh, yeah.
D
And Owen says to Barry, remember how we used to get the raptors in the trucks?
A
Yeah. Okay.
D
I mean, maybe they do, but we've seen him avoid things by doing a dive roll. So he just says to Barry, just do a dive roll.
A
Barry's like, I don't do dive rolls.
D
Even though he is, like, a secret age this point. So he's probably learned to dive roll, but he's got Owen there to guide him through it. Just tell me when to dive. Now. No, wait a minute.
A
Hold on.
D
Now. No, wait a minute. All right, D. Roll it.
A
Yeah. What happened to the other ones, too? Like, they got one in a cage, Definitely.
D
Claire cloth lined one with the. And that was pretty funny.
C
That was awesome.
D
I like that.
A
That was a cool.
C
And then the other falls out of the plane.
A
Oh, yeah.
D
Yeah.
A
That's right at the end. Because they're chasing. Actually, two are chasing Owen.
C
Yeah.
A
On the motorbike when he's trying to. Then he's trying to get onto the plane.
C
Yeah. I'm trying to remember one you see.
B
Got hit with the motorcycle.
C
Yeah. Out of the plane.
B
Out of the plane.
C
Yeah.
A
But there was a second one when they were. Yeah. Like, at least when he's coming around.
D
Oh. You know what he does is he excite bikes.
C
It.
D
Where if you. If you're the motorcycle in the back and you touch the front wheel in a. Or the back wheel and excite bike of the bike in front of you, the back one falls down. That's what happens to the first raptor that touches his back wheel. The second one gets on the plane for a split second before taking a motorcycle to the face.
A
Yeah, that did look cool.
D
I like that.
C
It was. That part was great. I love that part. Even though it's like, come to the airstrip. Where's the airstrip? Like, what?
A
Oh, totally. This is like, the problem with this whole movie is like, oh, my God, that was convenient. Oh, my God, was that convenient? Even I don't know why it bugs me. Like, Claire is with Kayla. They're trying to avoid these crazy raptors. And, like, Claire, amidst all the chaos, like, looks up, and there goes Owen on the roadway. Oh, well, that was convenient. I guess he's There. So this is good. And we. I guess they are bugged up. Aren't they talking to each other?
C
Yeah, you can tell because they touch their ears every time. You have to do that in a movie.
A
To the airstrip.
C
Okay, yeah, exactly. Where's the airstrip? It's next to the beach, dummy. Obviously.
D
But then they also won't let a jet pull over. They're like, there's no way we could do that. Oh, yeah, pull over. That's not how planes work. Okay, well, jump it is then.
C
Exactly. Everything is in service to get the entire cast on this island. That's it. I mean, you know we're in video game mode, right? That's it. We just need to get there.
A
So when Claire and Owen learn that Maisie and Beta are transported to the Biosyn facility, we do have the sympathetic cargo pilot. This is Kayla Watts, who's already been helping, obviously, Claire here, as we talked about. She agrees to fly them there because, you see, Kayla just happened to see Maisie when she was dropping off Baby Raptor. Yep. Because again, two flights. And then saw that transfer. Oh, that's interesting. And then Claire just happened to run into Kayla after they both took a dump in the women's washroom of the black market. You know, underground dino, black market stress poop. And then, of course, Kayla helped them escape. I mean, Kayla is Johnny on the spot here.
C
Yeah. Yeah.
A
Thank God for Kayla.
C
That scene as well is another stupid piece of dialogue where Kayla initiates the conversation. She's like, you lost? Like, oh, I'm looking for something. Don't talk to me. You know what I mean? Immediately shuts her down and walks away. It's like.
A
But she was. I guess Kayla's. As an American, she's like, woman, you should not be here.
C
Yeah, fair. That's fair.
A
Hell, I shouldn't be here. But I'm a badass. I did write my notes. Kayla needs a hobby. Got really roped up into all this stuff.
D
Yeah, totally.
A
Yeah.
D
Free rescue mission. Why not? That's why I was, like, in my notes. I was like, oh, Kayla, what's her secret? Is Samuel L. Jackson her dad? No.
A
She just got so disappointed. Yeah.
D
Well, I mean, it would be cool if they gave her anything of a character.
A
Sure.
D
Or background or anything.
B
Considering everything's a callback, you'd think.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah, it'd be tied in.
A
Well, let's go to Italy, guys. Everybody got their passport?
D
Let's go.
A
I think they haven't checked their. You think they have their passports on them?
C
Oh, really?
A
Not.
C
Yeah, you don't. You're not passing through customs at that side. Maybe you do it on the American side or the Malta side.
A
Maybe.
D
Yeah. The problems when they get back.
C
Right.
A
So we're in Italy. Dr. Malcolm, he is now working for Biosyn. Okay. So he sought Ellie's help to expose CEO Dr. Lewis Dodgson after communications director Ramsay Cole warned him of Dodgson's illegal activity. So we get. We get our OG3, you know, meeting here at Biosyn, and we got Ramsay Cole, and we can get into that character. And we got Dodgson, of course. But I did love a line. Dr. Malcolm, when he sees Grant and Sattler, he goes, look at you and look at me and look at you turned up to the backs for sure. Oh, my God.
C
It's great. It was so happy, happy to see Jeff Goldblum in this. Put him back in his leathers, get him with the one liners. It's great. But, you know, Malcolm knew right away that the whole thing, the Locust thing, is a scam. Ramsay's in on it. Why do you need to have them come to the island? You don't. You don't. You have the pass. You go get the DNA sample. There's no reason for them to be there. And there's certainly no reason for Sam Neill to be there. Like, here, I brought you all this way so you could hold the Locust.
A
What are you.
C
What are you talking about? Like, hold it while I swab its mouth. Literally. That's how they get the. Anyways, yeah, it's like, just take the Locust. How about that? Stab it and take it.
A
I mean, I was trying to figure out when we first meet Ramsay Cole, I'm like, what's this guy's story? Which little gets said in this movie, by the way, what's your story later on? But I'm like, is this guy a good guy or a bad guy? And Nora and I watching it, we're going back and forth. I mean, I don't know if you guys knew immediately. I didn't. I. I guess it caught me a little bit by surprise that I guess he was Team Good Guy.
D
Yeah, they were setting them up. I thought, like, Ramsey was working with Biosyn to set up and frame Grant and Sattler, even to the point where later on we'll get to Dodgson basically, like, trying to wash his hands and, you know, blame it on Ramsey.
A
Yeah.
D
Ramsay's like, no, it ain't on me. I'm not like you, even at that moment, the way it's shot and like the. The theme and the score that's playing, I'm like, he's still a bad guy. They're making him seem like a bad guy the whole time, even when he's been revealed to be good.
A
I especially thought he was a bad guy when he was like, hey, you two, Grant Saller, just go tour yourselves around. Yeah. I thought he was trying to, like, you know. Yeah. Set him up. But of course, he's like, trying to actually help them to go do all this.
C
Yeah.
B
And don't go in that elevator.
A
Do not go in that elevator, but go in that elevator.
B
Yeah, I totally thought he was a bad guy for sure.
A
Yeah, they did. He's a good guy. So Dodgson is exploiting dynamite dinosaurs, and he coerces former InGen geneticist Dr. Henry Wu to modify locusts to let Biosyn corner the world's food supply. This is his diabolical plan, right? You know, like, just make more money and obviously take out all these other crops. And we'll be laughing because we've got the seed and that, you know, they avoid. But woo, he hates the plan. He's warning it's going to cause this ecological collapse and the locusts are going to spread unchecked. And Dr. Wu, man, this guy's exhausted.
B
He does look tired.
A
And I was like, did they move lunch? Did they skip lunch? Because you can't do that. He's just like, the tiredest he's ever been in his life.
C
Oh, yeah.
A
He has his head down and I thought he was maybe nibbling on a hot dog for a second. He's so tired and, you know, he's got the cardigan, the long hair, and I. And for the first time, finally in this movie franchise, I felt bad for him a little bit. But I'm also like. Like, what do they got on you? Like, they must have, like, nude photos of him or something or having sex with a dinosaur or something. Like he's done something weird because. Just leave, bro.
D
You created dinosaurs bad enough, and then you also created these terrible.
A
The worst guy I know.
D
He's got nothing.
A
He's got nothing good. He's over.
C
What is that? Why. Why redeem him? I don't understand this. Like, he. His. His trajectory was evil. Like, he should be in a lab coat. Like, crazy hair. Like I said last time, like, let's. Let's mad scientist this. Like, he's the one that's flying too close to the sun, but for some reason, it's like, no, this guy.
A
No, they wanted to crank it back.
C
And be like, it's completely. This is another Star wars similarity. It just completely retcons what. What we were heading towards. You know what I mean? Like, you're not a clone. You're actually special. You know, like that kind of thing. It's just crazy.
A
Yeah. Dr. Wu meets Maisie because she is there now. They've been captured her in the baby Raptor. And he explains that his former colleague, Dr. Charlotte Lockwood, used her own DNA to replicate and give birth to the genetically identical Maisie. So we got. We finally learned what Maisie actually is. And I guess, you know, this is. Well, it's better than what we first thought. Right? Which was Lockwood, the grandpa.
C
Yeah.
A
Done this.
C
Yeah.
A
And just like, I just. I lost my daughter and I want her back.
C
That makes sense. That's actually. Logically, that makes sense to me more.
A
Than what Charlotte was doing.
C
Yeah. And also it makes. It makes Maisie a more interesting character. Like, what am I?
A
Yeah.
C
Am I a clone? Am I a human? Or am I a copy of somebody? Like. Like, you know, like, it's just the ethical questions there. It's just way more interesting to me. It's like, nah, actually, she made you out of love. You're pure love and goodness.
A
It's like, okay, yeah. So Charlotte, Dr. Charlotte Lockwood, she altered Maisie's DNA to prevent her from inheriting the fatal disease which she had. And I was wondering, in Fallen Kingdom, we were like, is that the age Charlotte Lockwood died that then Grandpa Lockwood brought back Maisie, you know, as his daughter? But. But obviously that's not true because she went on to become a really great scientist. And Dr. Wu believes that Maisie and the baby raptor's asexual conception and DNA are key to creating a pathogen to halt this locust outbreak. All coming together here.
D
Yeah, all coming together here. Had a couple of laughs here, especially when Dr. Wu mentions that the reason the Raptor Blue was able to reproduce by itself was because they put monitor lizard DNA into it. I was like, man, this guy. This guy figured out that if we add DNA, we can make the dinosaurs stable, but it always goes poorly. And he told us there are unintended consequences if you change DNA. Then he tells us that Maisie's mom changed her DNA. So I'm thinking, I can't wait to see what the unintended consequences are with Maisie. And guess what? There aren't any. It's actually totally fine if you do it with humans. Humans.
A
Yeah, right.
D
I also laughed when she. When Maisie is watching videos of Charlotte from recording during her experiments and she says something like a butterfly flew into my room. And I realized that the smallest things can change everything. And I was like, I saw the butterfly effect too.
A
I hated that. That footage of Dr. Charlotte Lockwood, like, it looked so dumb, so cheesy. But having to explain what she was really doing. I guess the fun reveal was when she like got up and you saw her belly.
C
Sure.
A
And that you knew then she was pregnant with Maisie. But any, anything to add to any of this craziness test? No, no, no, no. Well, thankfully Maisie escapes from captivity along with Beta little baby raptor. So they're free now. But let's go back to. To the plane coming in here. It's made its way to Italy to the area.
D
We have a plane landing right now.
A
Yeah. Yes. Because Dodgson has turned off the adr. A Quetzalcoatlus, I guess, how you say this dinosaur, I don't know, one of the flying ones, Quetzalcoatla Kalatz Atlas, I don't know. Attacks Kayla's plane in the Biosyns airspace because again, they've turned off. They had described it on one of the flights over there, like, well, he got turned.
C
What did they say? I still don't.
A
Really don't know either. It was something about the elevation of how where the dinosaurs would go so they wouldn't hit your plane, I guess.
C
Yeah, but eventually you have to land.
A
I don't know.
C
So it keeps them higher or lower, I wasn't sure. Yeah.
A
But anyway, it's attacked and it forces Owen and Kayla to crash land while Claire is ejected. Now I thought this was a cool shot. The camera shot where she gets ejected. That looked awesome.
B
It was.
A
That was really, really neat. But then obviously the plane goes down. So we now have like everybody sort of separated here. We have all these dinosaur encounters, but the three of them will regroup. But we have Claire. She's trying to survive the Edward Scissorhand looking dinosaur. Right. With the big claws.
C
Oh yeah.
A
Owen and Kayla, you know, they share some jokes first, but then they're trying to survive that feathered dinosaur out on the ice.
D
Angry cardinal.
A
Pyroraptor, I guess. Yeah, sure, angry cardinal. And then again they'll all meet up. But so there's two scenes here going on that we sort of bounce back and forth with. Did you have a favorite of the bunch?
D
I liked the scene when Claire is getting followed by Edward Scissorhands Yeah. And she sneaks into like a small pond and hides underneath. And you get that shot of her underneath the water with Edward on top screaming at her. I thought that was pretty cool. So I like that one a little bit more though. Like I said, I guess it was probably in our Lost World episode a cracking scene where things are cracking all around you. I always like that. And that's what's happening to Owen and Kayla when the angry cardinal who can swim is chasing.
A
Yeah, yeah.
C
I think that it needed more cracking.
D
More cracking.
C
Yeah. I think they kind of whiffed it a little on the, the, the ice part also. They're what, three miles apart? Part completely different climates. Right.
D
I was a little later on that.
C
Frozen lake and then a lush jungle. You can see the smoke from the, the plane crash. And it's, that's not, it's not a different elevation. So what's happening in the Dolomites?
A
I don't know.
C
And the chicken dinosaur or the feathers? Yeah, right out of Harry Potter. I thought like a craggly old wizard dinosaur coming out.
A
But now this is what they're telling us in real life. That what dinosaur actually looked like, right?
B
Yeah.
A
That a lot of them had feathers.
C
Yeah, yeah.
A
And that, that, that kid Eddie was right all along. They're all just six foot turkeys. But I did read like at one point in doing obviously all these movies we've talked about, like they made a decision. They were like, yeah, like when that research maybe started to come out, they're like, yeah, but we're not doing that. It doesn't look as cool. And it's probably more difficult to CGI or actually produce that animatronic with feathers. Like so there's like. I know we're not doing that, but yeah, it was a pretty badass looking dinosaur. But Harry Potter, like is very true.
B
Totally. Yeah. I definitely thought, well, they're just showing us what dinosaurs look like. But it was a super cool looking dino.
A
Sure. Either way.
C
Yeah.
B
Owen went underwater.
A
Claire. Claire. Oh no, it's horrible. They both went underwater.
B
Owen went underwater. Somehow he dried himself in like.
A
Yeah.
C
Four seconds.
A
Not a word about hypothermia at all.
B
He's a nice fine.
C
Yeah. That.
B
Yeah. Didn't make any sense. Although the, the shot with Claire underneath the water. Spectacular stuff. It looked pretty.
C
Pretty.
A
I mean, you've said all the, the movies. This movie is referenced. I mean that's Rambo basically right there. And it looked cool. It was a great shot.
B
There was a Rambo reference.
A
I know. And Then you said Owen about going into the water and how did he not get hypothermia? It bothered me so much. For some reason, Dr. Sattler literally mentions hypothermia later in the amber mines.
C
Yeah, watch for bats and hypothermia, guys.
A
Don't worry about it. In the amber caves. What about when you go under freezing cold water and somehow then have to like, survive? Yeah.
C
And not even like shivering. Yeah. It's crazy, right, Ramble?
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah.
B
And he's able to just get out of the water, no problem.
D
There's like.
B
Feels like there's six climates. Like it's frozen, but you can still swim through it if you want.
A
Very odd. Very odd. But then they. They escape almost in a callback, I dare say, to fallen kingdoms. The dummy waiter. They sort of go in. I'm talking Owen and Kayla into a thing that's sort of similar to it. Like as if I don't know where they are. Bridge or something. But okay, well, inside BioSyn, Dr. Malcolm and Ramsey covertly advising Ellie and Dr. Grant on where to obtain a locust DNA sample. So they're searching for the lab now. They're all. Yeah, they're all in their white, right? Yes, they are lab. You know, coats and masks and stuff like that. They do encounter Maisie again. It's like another example of just making them. I thought so. Like just dumb dumbs.
C
Oh, totally.
A
Right. Just like comedic relief with our two. Our two OGs, our legends.
B
But they're so smart. They diverted somehow. Wow. Around where all these freaking cameras are. Because all we hear about it. I'm just. I'm making that up because it's just convenient that all we do is see cameras.
A
And all of a sudden, how are they blending in?
B
No problem. They went to a very secure floor, but somehow no cameras.
C
Yeah, all good. Also Ellie with her hair out, you know, so we can tell the difference between her.
A
What did he do with his hat? Hat?
C
Great question.
A
Where was his hat?
C
Great question.
A
Wow. His fedora that he never leaves. Did he have it in, like in his biohazard suit, like behind him?
C
I wish. He just wore it.
A
So good. So, yeah. They encounter Maisy. And then discovering the breach. Dodgson incinerates the locusts to destroy evidence. But many escape, which sparks a forest fire because these things are now on fire while they fly out the. You know, the. The vent, I guess. And they forced the site wide evacuation, which they also told us they slipped it in earlier in the movie. Like all the dinosaurs have something like Implanted. Right. That we can control where they go.
C
Right.
A
Yep. Yeah. So because of that, they all brought them basically in. Is that. Do I have that right?
C
That's. That's right.
A
Okay. Okay. Okay. Anything from the whole locust, you know, box and them on fire and anything. I'm. I'm moving with pace here.
C
Yeah, no, no, it's good. It's. It's very good. I mean, the Death Star caper was. Was crazy, I guess. I love how the. The PA system announces what's happening to everybody. Containment breach. You know, like, it's. Anyways, continue.
A
Yeah.
D
Smart of them, I think, to gas the locusts at this point. Oh, yeah, yeah.
C
Just.
D
Just smart. For environmental reasons. But they didn't think about the fact that once they get caught on fire, they're gonna be so angry that they're just gonna break out through the top.
A
Yeah. Okay. That's all that happened. Right. I was like, what makes.
D
Raging through. Because they're so upset.
A
Yeah.
D
Burning the evidence.
A
Right, right.
D
It did look cool.
C
Yep. I'll give them that.
D
The fiery locusts.
A
Yeah. And then how it spread to the. To the island or whatever. For sure. So Lewis Dodgson discovers that Maisie has escaped with Dr. Grant, Dr. Sattler, he shuts down the hyperloop, which is basically the plane train, and he forces the trio, because they were on it, and they're trying to get out of there to enter the natural amber mines. So these caves, guys, they're actually filled with more prehistoric dinosaurs. Even older dinosaurs are living in these caves. And we're seeing, I guess, a new one for the first time in our franchise. And, man, we got straight up Indiana Jones now with Dr. Grant. Got fedora back, got the big torch as they're making their way through it.
D
That felt like it's a small world after all. But it's Jurassic Park. It's a Jurassic park after all the way. They're, like, going slowly through the mines, and every time there's a cave, a light will flash on it. Scary dino coming out.
A
That's true. So Alan, Ellie, and Maisie, they barely escape, and I guess they're helped out by Dr. Malcolm. So he leaves the control center, gets in a Jeep.
C
Yeah.
A
Yep. Goes down to the amber mines, or at least where it's locked, or the cage. And then that they have that fun scene where he's. He thinks he guesses the number right, but it's Ramsay Cole that's put it in back in the control room. Right, right.
D
Didn't know it was going to Be A code guesses 1984 first and then Miles Davis's birthday.
A
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It ended up being.
D
I think it ended up being 9517 was the code.
B
Oh, right.
C
But he thought it was 6969 that he actually did you notice he puts in 699 and then he thinks he's like, oh, I got it, 6969. But at the same time, Ramsay puts in the actual code and so he thinks the 699.
A
Does Dr. Malcolm drop a nice after it opens?
C
Great question. That I don't know.
A
Because he thinks it's 69.
C
69, yeah.
A
Oh, my God.
C
I like the 1984, like dystopian. Famous dystopian. That's great. Yeah, it's great.
B
Hilarious.
A
So they all escape and they rejoin. Obviously. I'm talking Alan, Ellie, maisie now with Dr. Malcolm. We got Owen, we got Claire, and we got Kayla. And I wrote in my notes, this is our Jurassic Park Avengers.
C
Yes, it is.
A
On your left. We even get Grant. No one dropping both a. Don't move at the exact same time.
C
No, not at the exact same time. Which drove me crazy.
A
What do you mean?
C
Well, they don't say it at the same time. He. Grant says it first and then Owen says, don't move. Like. Oh, it should have been in unison.
A
Yeah, it wasn't. I thought.
C
No, it was.
D
They tried to, but I think they.
C
How many takes? Guys, this is the. This is your moment, your. Your symmetry moment. You gotta say it at the same time. And they don't.
D
They don't move.
C
Yeah, they don't. My move. It's like, Colin, just another take.
A
One more, take one more.
C
You're all set up.
A
No, man, they're like. They're just back from like a nine month delay of COVID Trevor's like, let's get this over with. Yeah, probably good enough. Let's go. Next scene.
D
I did laugh when they are doing. I think they've encountered the giganotosaurus.
A
A giganotosaurus? Yeah.
D
You know, they mentioned twice that it's the greatest predator of all time. In case you didn't catch it the first time, Dr. Grant makes sure to repeat it. I laughed a lot. They're hiding on the side of the vehicle like we've seen a million times. But now, since we're six movies into this and nobody important ever dies, there's seven people hiding together.
C
Together.
A
Yes.
D
I was like, wow, kill one of these people off.
A
It's exactly at this moment Trey, you just took the words out of my mouth that Nora and I were like, you gotta kill somebody.
C
You got to.
A
Yeah. And I was starting to wonder. I'm like, oh, who's gonna go? I'm like, are you taking someone from the new group? You taking someone from the old days? I thought it would be a Grant or a Sattler, if I'm being honest. But then I was like, but they're in love, so maybe you just, you.
C
Know, you got it, Malcolm. Yeah, it should have been Malcolm.
A
But no, no, they all find a way to escape this jig or gig a notosaurus, you know, it's like gif or gif with this dinosaur.
C
Colin's like, don't worry, I got a wider lens. Let me just put pop this on the camera. I can fit all of you into this frame.
B
Yeah. Gotta get them all in for one shot.
C
And it's so goddamn sluggish from this point on in the movie. Just them all running around together.
A
There's like 45 minutes to go.
C
Oh, God.
A
It's at the hour 45 mark of this movie when Owen and Claire are reunited.
C
Did right.
A
So we all. Oh, sorry, they're reunited with Maisie is what I meant. Yeah. And then we got a lot more still.
C
Right.
A
I hated this scene. I. Whatever that building was, they were in. Yeah, it was a little confusing. The thing was very dark. Could barely tell what was going on. And as will be the scene when they're fleeing in the helicopter. Super dark, like. Anyway, they're all together.
B
Yeah, they're fine. Flipping a Jeep. That's fine. I guess it's got a cage or something.
A
They never learned. Never learned. Don't go. Buy the Jeep or buy the car. We keep saying this. Yeah, that's the number one thing a dinosaur is into a jeep or a car or a van. The size of it must intrigue them.
D
Yeah, I've never seen something like that. They're weirded out, too. We do get a gold bloom run here. Like, I was. I was getting a little excited when he picks up a flaming locust and.
C
Stabs it with a torch.
D
He's like, oh, yeah, we're going. We're running. Instead he just stabs it in the mouth and turns it into a fire breathing dragon.
C
Yeah. Oh, that was cool. That was cool.
A
Yeah, I thought so too.
D
But that time I was like, he probably should have ran last time.
C
I thought, don't run.
D
No reason this time you should run away. Oh, yeah, you should really get eaten at this point.
A
All right. That was A good call.
D
That was over for Jeff.
A
Am I like forgetting or making this up? Was there a part in this movie like somebody is just stabbing a dinosaur in the head? Chris, Pat, Owen is just straight up knifing dinosaurs.
C
Yeah, they're all fighting it off at the same time. Claire shocks it.
A
Yeah, that's right.
C
Kayla darts it.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
There's, you know.
D
Oh, and also at one point completely like chokes out a screamy boy, whatever those ones are called.
C
Oh, Dilophosaurus.
D
Dilophosaurus.
A
That screaming cla's face.
D
He just puts it in a headlight.
B
Yeah, that was ridiculous. He single handedly choked a dino.
C
He's a superhero. Come on. That's not the craziest thing he did in this whole movie. Let's be honest.
A
Right? It's somehow avoid hypothermia. That's the crazy.
C
Exactly. He's impervious.
A
Yeah. So Dodgson, it's his time to get the hell out of Dodge. He flees with the dinosaur embryos and we do see the Barbasol K. That was fun. That was fun. How did he ever get it?
C
Yeah. Doesn't matter.
A
They just went. We, I mean, it's amazing. We talked about this in Jurassic Park 1. We're like, we saw it get covered with. I think I even asked you guys, like, do we see that again? Does it ever come back into play? Took a long time, but it was there.
D
He just went there.
A
Maybe.
D
I guess that's how they launched this operation. He went by himself, found that without having any idea where it could possibly.
A
Yeah. What do you do? Find Nedry's vehicle. I guess you could start there.
C
Okay, let's assume that there's a tracker in it, which would make sense, I guess.
A
Yeah.
C
If you really want to explain it.
A
Right.
C
Also, it's ridiculous. It's so stupid.
A
So anyway, Dodgson, he's got the embryos. He is on the hyperloop, but he becomes trapped after Claire and Ellie reroute the power. Hated this little subplot. Like this little side mission to like do this. Like the whole like rerouting of power. It was like what I was supposed to get them down there in the locus area.
D
I was like, we, we've been split up for so long and we just got back together, but actually we're splitting up one more time.
C
Yeah, man.
D
We're getting another three acts out of this somehow.
A
Yeah. And so Dodgson, once the power is like, shuts down the hyperloop again. He's killed by a trio of the scary poison dinosaurs, the dilophosauruses.
C
Just like. Just like.
A
Just like Nedry.
C
Irony. The irony in a hyperloop. By the way, Biosyn. Was that what it's called?
A
Biosim.
C
They've also cracked the technology game, right?
A
Oh, yeah, sure. Yep.
C
Hyperloop. The slowest hyperloop of all time.
A
Yeah, very hyper.
C
Well, but still, they have one is working. They're using it to get around the dolomites, I guess. But stick with that.
A
In general.
D
The blue light flashing is like the dilophosis is getting closer and closer. This is where Dodgson says to the screamy boy, what's your story?
C
Spits in his face.
A
Yeah, this is where he says, what's your story?
C
What's your story?
A
Just like Dennis Scott, what's your story? Oh, man. I guess now that you say it. Trey, we got everybody back together. But then the writer and the director were like, yeah, but wouldn't it be cool if we somehow get the two female leads from our two franchises in Sattler and Claire? They gotta go do something so they can talk a bit. Little bit. We got to get Owen with Dr. Grant now. Maisy will be there as well, but that'd be cool. Get those bros together. That was the only reason to sort of divide and conquer here. So as the JP Avengers are working together, we got Owen, with Dr. Grant and Maisy's help, they capture the baby raptor. And we get all three of them doing the. The Force, right? Put up the palm. What does Owen even say? He wants something to spread out a certain way.
C
Spread out, triangulate. He's gotta. He's gotta hit the dart in the side of the neck.
A
Yeah, that's right. That's right. And I think Owen. Did Owen know that it's most likely to attack Dr. Grant? Because the baby raptor does know. Owen does know Maisie.
C
Right?
A
Doesn't know Dr. Grant.
C
Right.
A
Maybe a little afraid of the fedora.
C
Yep. So good call.
D
Never seen a human wearing a hat before. It's gonna come after you.
A
Whatever you do. Don't take off your hat. We need him to attack you. So they get the baby raptor, and then everybody, and I mean everybody, all escape in the Biosyn helicopter, which Kayla has gone to get. And they do this amidst our final real big scene here. We got a crazy fight going on because there's. All the dinosaurs are there because they've all been, like, told to come there because of the forest fire. And we got the Giganto dude, and we got sexy Rexy. And we got Edward Scissorhands, Sosaurus all battling it out. I couldn't see during this fight. It is so dark. But they battle it out in the escape.
D
Well, you saw Rexy pose for a.
A
Photo that was well lit. You're talking about when it went behind the circular waterfall. That was cool. That was cool.
B
Then Rexy just played possum and played dead for a while. That was horrible.
A
Yeah.
B
A dinosaur is literally. It's catatonic on the floor. The floor on the ground.
A
It was. Yeah. She just.
B
Just to. You know, that's how. That's how she's gonna win.
A
I mean it was like the. What was it at that point? The Indoraptor playing dead with the guy that wanted the tooth.
C
Yeah.
D
Wheatley.
A
Yeah. Yes. Yeah, but you're right. I thought he was done. I thought it was down and out.
C
Yeah.
A
It's like not got off the mat. I don't know. I just. I did not like this final style seed. But maybe I'm alone.
C
I'm. I'm with you.
A
Okay.
D
I think it's just showing us, you know. Rexy has moved to a different point in their career. Used to be the superstar out there. Could handle anything. One on two sometimes. Now down tail end of the prime. Needs a number one alongside. But a perfect number two.
A
Yeah.
D
Like we just saw. You know. As long as you can team up like they did at the end of Jurassic World called Rexy's got a chance.
A
Yeah.
C
Right.
D
But I also thought, you know, what was this? Gigantosaurus.
A
Yeah, the big one. Punk.
C
Straight up punk.
D
All bark, no bite.
A
Oh, you weren't impressed?
D
Has seven humans count? Like cornered. Couldn't kill one of them.
C
Yeah.
D
Shock it one time and it's gone. Put a fire in its mouth. See you later. This you get fooled by T. Rex pulling its classic sleeping move.
A
Dumb. Yeah. Punk.
B
The biggest carnivore the world has ever seen. Can eat anything like it literally just could have eaten that T. Rex.
A
Well, good news is that that dinosaur might be extinct now. Should be if it was one of one the Giga. You're right.
C
Interesting.
A
Unless they got the embryos, which they probably do. So anyway. Check the can they escape and away from danger. Dr. Sattler, Dr. Graham. They rekindle. I guess we could say their romantic relationship. Give a little kiss, don't they? We finally get them kissing. First time in the entire franchise. Oh yeah.
D
Face up.
A
Smooch.
C
This whole. This whole thing made me wonder. Were they ever together? Like I'm questioning.
A
Well, we Debated this back in the day.
C
I know, but I. I was. I was definitely.
A
I say no.
C
I said no.
A
I don't think they ever slept together or were ever dating.
C
Yeah.
A
Like, I don't. But I think there was always something there. The chemistry mystery.
C
Yeah.
A
Was there?
C
But, yeah, now, because I was team. No, no, no. They definitely had a thing going.
A
Right.
C
There were a couple that felt like they were a couple, but now I don't think so.
A
They were just like the. The when, you know, at a. At a work site or in a company.
C
They're colleagues.
A
Yeah, exactly.
C
Colleagues who sort of had the hots for each other.
A
Yeah. My company wife, you hear, or whatever. My company husband.
C
Yeah. But they're like 20 years apart. So it was.
A
Yeah.
C
Back then it was very inappropriate. Now they're sort of, you know, when you get older, it's, you know, know it's more acceptable to date someone 20 years younger.
A
How old is Dr. Grant at this point?
C
I mean. I mean, Sam. Neil is. He would have been 75ish when this movie was shot.
A
Samuel was 75.
C
Hold on, hold on. He's 77 now. So.
A
Okay, so close.
C
70S. And Laura Dern would have been in her 50s.
A
Like Dr. Alan Grant.
C
I know.
A
Studio.
C
Maybe. I don't know.
A
That's amazing.
C
I didn't use that.
B
Maybe.
A
Okay, so, yeah. Anyway, we see them kiss. Then they testify with Dr. Malcolm and Ramsay Cole against Biosyn. So there's that whole part. It's like, all right. And then Owen, Claire and Maisie, they return home and they reunite Baby Raptor with Blue. We get that fun exchange. I think even, like, Blue and the Baby Raptor take off. Blue come back.
C
Yeah, just comes back. Hey, thanks, man.
A
Thank you.
D
You held up your end of the bargain.
A
Yes. Or even. And then Dr. Wu releases a host locust carrying the pathogen, which I guess is going to gradually eradicate all the swarms and what they're doing to all their crops.
C
He was only so happy to do that, too.
A
This is the only thing I'm going.
C
To kill all of you with. This one thing right now. Releases it. That's the happiest you've ever seen him.
A
Yeah, for sure.
C
100%.
D
I was hoping that all the locusts that swarmed up out of the corn were gonna spell like, thank you, doctor, or make the diamond a little something special or.
A
He's programmed them. They're like drones that we see in China.
D
There's drone ships, drone DNA.
C
Yeah.
A
Or. Yeah, like, that would have been very funny. Like Dr. Or John Hammond's face. Or like. Or just even the logo. Jurassic park logo.
C
Rachel was watching that scene with me and she was like, oh, look, it's a dinosaur. Like, she thought she saw a dinosaur in the. The. The formation.
A
I was waiting, too. I was like, whoa, this is going to be. They're going to make something in this. But then they sort of didn't.
C
Yeah, I don't know if I was just looking for it or if, you know, I was hoping for, like, you know, the old Disney. Disney animators, where the cock and balls or something.
A
Oh, yeah. It spells sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, anyway, dinosaurs and humans adapt to a new coexistence. And the United nations declares Biosyn Valley an international dinosaur sanctuary. So if you had voted for that on the now this documentary, honestly, I love it.
D
They're like, turns out we had no plan for the dinos. We took care of the locusts, which were the actual problem.
A
Oh, I know.
D
Ruining our food supply. The dinos, we're just going to let them live.
C
Yeah.
D
The same way they were living before we did the math. Turns out 110 as many deaths from dinos as from lions and hippopotamuses. So it's okay.
A
Or the damage, of course, that a locust is going to do. Yeah, yeah, the locust.
D
Let's not forget the locust. They're not dinosaurs.
A
Source.
D
They are just a completely different thing.
C
Yeah, right.
A
Yeah, yeah.
D
This is a side project for bios.
A
Oh. This is what people have a big issue with this movie.
D
It's like, this really wasn't about dinosaurs, Frankenstein, bugs. Yeah, the dinos, they're fine. We're just gonna keep letting them live.
A
Just.
C
They're fine out there in a landlocked sanctuary. Like, why? What's stopping them from leaving? It's in the middle of Italy, is it not like.
A
Yes, yes. So the middle of Italy is not, you know, an island in. Of itself.
C
I guess you could call it a peninsula. Peninsula. I don't know.
A
Well, it is. Well, yeah, sort of. It's the boot. Yeah, but the Dolomites is just a mountain range.
C
Yeah, yeah. They could leave northeastern Italy.
A
Yeah, no, come on. It's connected to the world is what the point is.
C
Not hard to get to, is my point. And not hard to get out of if you have wings and. Or you're a dinosaur.
A
Yeah, no, but. Okay, in Biosyn's defense.
C
Oh, boy.
A
They did put the chip in them.
C
Okay, yeah, okay, good. Sure.
A
We talked about that. Yep. Put a chip in them just to Keep them where you got to keep them. Now, I know a lot of things can go wrong, and who knows, in terms of, like, a genetic mutation or so I guess that could be an issue, but.
C
Yeah, but nobody's putting chips in the new, new ones, right? If they're crazy.
A
All right. Jurassic World, Dominion Task. Favorite scene, Favorite character, favorite dinosaur. Whatever you want here.
B
Well, you know, just hearing you guys talk about this movie, me, it makes. It makes me hate it more.
C
I thought. I thought I liked it.
B
I thought I liked it more watching it, in all honesty.
A
But now breaking it down, you're not.
B
Yeah, it doesn't feel as good. The vibes don't feel as good around here. I would say Ramsay is my favorite character. He threw me for a loop. He threw me for a hyperloop, actually. When he put. When he put Dr. Grant put the three of them in the. The hyperloop. Right.
A
Yep.
B
I thought they were gone. I thought they were dead. I thought he played. He was the bad guy, but he was the good guy.
A
He was still nefarious.
B
I never knew.
D
I never knew.
C
Yeah.
B
Why not? I thought it could happen. So Dr. Ramsey's care. Dr. Ramsey. Ramsey's character as a whole. That's my guy. That was my fun, fun character.
A
Okay. What about you, Trey? Scene, character, dinosaur.
C
Okay.
D
I do like Kayla as a character. I don't think she's really much besides an exposition device for the majority of the movie because everything she says is just like, I'm here at the right place and I know the exact info that you are looking forward to continue this story. But I like the way she played it when she was on my favorite dinosaur. I like, we saw, like an actual white looking atrociraptor. Remember we were complaining that they said that the Indominus rex was white. And we're like, it didn't look that.
B
White, but we see it wasn't white.
C
Right. Yeah.
D
The Atrociraptor was like albino white. And it looks scary and cool, I thought. And then I did also like the giant cardinal that could swim, which it goes under, breaks up as trying to get, you know, Owen, and he finally escapes. Like what? An.
A
Yeah, like that.
D
He called a dinosaur an asshole. Favorite scenes. I like when Malcolm is explaining the plan that Grant and Sadler are going to have to undertake while Dr. Grant is ordering from a barista.
A
Oh, yes.
D
He's getting so mad about the coffee that he's ordering.
A
But that was like a slick move by Malcolm, right? Because of the sound of the. Yes. And he just handed them the bracelet or whatever.
D
Whisper this under my breath while the steamer's going.
B
Get some milk, man.
C
You need milk.
A
But Dr. Graham, man, this guy really has just lived out on a dig site his entire life. He doesn't know anything that works in the world.
C
Yeah.
A
Clueless.
D
The chase through the dino underground and then subsequent, like, car chase, I think is cool. The whole Malta thing, like, we're saying it's just an action movie, but it was cool looking. I liked Claire underwater hiding. And I liked the way Dodgson died.
A
Okay.
D
With the blue light flash. And I thought that was pretty cool.
C
Yeah, that was cool. I'm with you. The. The Malta chase was my favorite part by far. Just exciting. Well, you know, well put together, like, well choreographed, that whole thing.
A
The director said something about. He was excited about dinosaurs being on the chase in like an old world city with all the rocks and stuff like that.
C
Okay. Yeah. And it worked. I mean, it was very Raiders, very, you know, very Star wars, you know, and that's my. That's my wheelhouse. I love that stuff.
A
Stuff.
C
Kayla, I. I'm with you. She's Han Solo, basically, you know.
D
Totally.
C
She's basically wearing the same outfit. She's flying the Millennium Falcon piece of hunk of junk, you know, so she.
A
She gets a second one too, right?
C
Yep. The same. Yeah. I only fly boxes.
A
Yeah. Part two.
C
Yeah. But I would have liked a little bit more fan service. Make the connection. If you're. You've gone this far, just make the connection to Arnold and. Yeah. What else? What else? I hate all the dinosaurs now. I'm just. I'm done with dinosaurs. We've been. We've been doing these kind of back to back. A little peek behind the curtain and. Yeah, I might be dinosaur dad a little.
A
This was the movie where it really nearly broke me for sure.
C
Yeah.
A
In terms of the dinosaur, in terms of the pace, in terms of so much going on.
B
You see dinos before you see people in this movie. I mean, it just. Yeah. Right away.
D
Definitely catch dinos.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, cash and crabs. If I have to pick a favorite character, I think I'm going Malcolm, though. I feel like it was a return to form.
D
He gets good lines.
C
He gets good lines and he's. It's more in his wheelhouse, the wise, cracking, smart ass, you know?
A
Yep.
B
You know, I laugh at it. I had a dog once. It helped me so hard, I had a callus on my shin.
A
Weird line.
C
That is his weirdest line for sure.
D
My favorite Dr. Malcolm line is when he is getting fired by Dodgson. Like, he's kind of figured out what's going on. First of all, Malcolm says it was a cushy gig, which I think is pretty funny. But then, you know, Dodgson is trying to, like, explain his villainous motivations. He's like, you think of me as some sort of Prometheus.
A
And he.
D
Malcolm responds, prometheus got gourd. So will you, you rapacious rat bastard.
C
So good.
D
So, of course, then I'm thinking, nice. This guy is getting pecked to death just like Prometheus.
C
Right?
A
Right. Yeah.
C
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
D
He got spat on.
A
Great.
D
Death still.
C
Yeah.
A
It was. All right. A few of my favorites. Or that we can get into random notes and observations. I did like the Edward Scissorhands dinosaur.
C
Yeah. It was kind of creepy.
A
Very creepy. Yeah. And that scene, like, we talked about with Claire under the water did look cool. Rambo, like, I also liked, as much as I hated the last scene because it was so dark and, like, who's fighting who? And I thought, sexy Rex. He was dead. Suddenly, she's back. But how they destroyed the Giga raptor, like, impaling him onto Edward Scissorhands. That was cool, those claws or whatever. Yeah, it looks sort of cool.
D
Yeah. I also like the way that Edward Scissorhands fights. Just like slaps. Just like slaps people in the face with those long claws.
A
I don't think that dinosaur is carnival carnivore.
C
Right. Because it knocks Claire. It knocks the. The something out of the way to get to the berries. Right. Something's eating. Yeah, it was. It's a deer. Right. As a deer is munching on some berries or something, just swats.
A
It's pretty crazy that that's not a carnivore.
C
Right.
B
And no teeth. Right.
D
I feel like it had a beak.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So.
A
Yeah, very bird, like, for sure. Okay, so random notes, observations. I have one that was bugging me all movie, and it had to do with Lewis DOD Hodgson early in the movie when they're at the Biosyn facilities and I forget who's. I guess Sattler and Grant have arrived. They're, like, outside and they're talking about this whole place and them coming and whatever and Malcolm being there, and they're gonna go see him be doing a lecture. He, like, turns. He turns to Ramsay Cole out of nowhere. It feels like he's like, hey, do you have a bar?
C
Do you have food?
A
Yeah. And he's like, no. Okay. And then it's like right back into whatever time. Like what the.
C
Like, yeah.
A
Was it just to like, he's one of these like, eccentric, you know, billionaire tech guy.
C
But that's what. That was my reading.
A
But then I thought at first, like, is he genetically made or. And he needs like this weird energy from a bar there. I was like, really confused. Inclusion.
D
Is this gonna be. Is this gonna be the. The end point of Biosyn's plan? We destroy all food on Earth and all you have to do is eat Biosyn bars.
A
Okay, yeah, yeah. Maybe that was the tie in or something.
D
Well, maybe Whenever you come up with an interesting question, the answer in this one is no.
A
Jurassic World Dominion was shot under the working title of Arcadia. This is just a little fun fact for you guys. That was the name of the ship which transported dinosaurs to the US mainland in. In the previous film. Yes, it was.
D
Yes, it was. They say it when it's on the thing.
A
Yep.
D
The radar.
A
Nice. Any other random notes, observations, anything else from Jurassic World?
C
I got a lot actually.
D
Now, we barely talked about the curtain yanker, which as Tas mentioned, is out on the boat. We see the Mosasaurus is back eating the crabs.
A
Yes.
D
I like Deadliest Catch.
A
Yeah, yeah, right.
D
Spent a lot of time watching that.
A
Show show back in the day. Very, very cool show. Yeah, I love those shows. I like the. The gold one. Gold. Is it just called Gold Rush?
D
It might be, yeah.
A
They've done like, same idea though, like teams battling against each other and these. There's a logging one like Axemen or something. Yeah, yeah, I watch a lot of those shows. Those are cool.
D
Deadliest Catch was the first one for me. I like when they are flying to the Bias and Sanctuary and the Dolomite mountain mountains and Dr. Sattler falls asleep on Dr. Grant. And I thought for sure we were gonna get a raptor saying, alan, bring that back.
C
Yeah, that would have been great.
D
Another callback. They're arguing about whether the neuro implants in the dinosaurs are an electric shock or a system or like just a signal. And Ramsay is saying, a signal? And he's like, don't you think that's kind of. And they both chime in, cruel cool. And he responds back to Grant and Sadler, do you know how many volts were in the fence at Jurassic Park? Dr. Grant says, yeah, yeah. Do you guys know how many?
A
Yeah.
C
10,000.
D
Exactly.
A
Right? Yeah.
D
No one will ever forget.
A
No.
D
What else have we got?
A
Boy die on that. Yeah, yeah.
D
Saw Timmy get blasted off.
A
No, Timmy or. Or Lex Yeah, what up with that?
D
And then JD, like you're saying like Dr. Malcolm really gets on a heater. I think in the second half of this one. Including when he starts to unbutton his shirt and Kayla tells him, button that one back up.
A
I, I rewinded it cuz Nora was on her phone. I was like, oh, that was pretty funny. And it's like really quick too.
D
Oh yeah, very quick.
A
And I rewounded to show her. She's like, I don't get it. I was like, come on. Gold blue met his chest out the whole movie.
C
That was good. 100%. You mentioned the Mosasaurus. That final shot of it just sort of hanging out with two humpback whales. Big eye roll for me. Like you would devour those whales. Like this is this. Well, this thing ate a submarine in the last movie. These humpback whales are screwed. Like they're not just, oh, we're sea creatures now, living in harmony, you know, all those shots were screwed.
A
I did appreciate the shot because it put into perspective how big ass this thing is. They're always trying to figure out like how big is this thing, thing. You know, it's huge. But then you see it against a giant whale. Those look tiny compared to it.
C
Y. 100%.
A
Well, let's rank. Jurassic World, Dominion. Rotten Tomatoes. The critics hated this movie 29%, but the fans have it at 77%. So a glaring difference here, I think our biggest gap.
C
Yeah.
A
For any of the movies we've done so far. And we're done. Six of the seven now, one review. I'll just share this. Jurassic World, Dominion is impressive in its ability to flush away all the goodwill of the films that came before it. By the 90 minute mark, the audience is almost rooting for the Locusts to win. Little harsh, I thought. I'm not sure I ever got that far. But. Point is, the critics hated this movie. But what did Tas Melas think? Scale of 1 to 10, how do you rank in Jurassic World Dominion Task?
B
Well, obviously this plot is going all over the place when you realize that you're watching different movies all in one, then, then you start to come around to whoa, dinos. Whoa, locusts.
C
Whoa.
B
An action film all at the same time. Although, yeah, seeing Chris Pratt literally choke a dino, I mean I, I can't really one handed a dino.
A
He's invincible. Now that is a big eye roll for me too.
B
Yeah, that was just, that was weird. But at the same time, the action parts were great. How Claire survived being Aladdin like When the dino's right behind it on the. On the. The mat or the rooftop.
A
What?
B
You could have just eaten Claire. But Claire gets the run start. And that part's fun. And that part. So a lot of the action seats are fun. Again, again, there's three movies. The locust flying around. Plus the dinos gives me a lot more. A lot more love than people out there. I'm going five. I'm going five.
A
Middle of the pack. Middle of the pack for Dominion. Trey.
D
I think this is a worse movie than all of the rest of them. But somehow I liked it more than watching Fallen Kingdom.
A
Still going to get a lower score from Fascinating. Fascinating.
B
Yeah, I'm with you.
D
At least it had, like, some silliness to it. Like it had some good Dr. Malcolm, I thought. But I don't like this one, because really, Biosyn was right. And I think that's a major problem. Their plan was, we need you to go get that clone girl, Maisie, so we can get her DNA to fix the locusts. And guess what they do. They go kidnap maisie, get her DNA, fix the locust, and Dr. Wu is a hero, right?
A
Right, Right, Right.
D
So Biosyn cult it at the start. Should have just let him do it unabated.
A
I.
D
Look, it's me. It's Dr. Woo. I have to say, once again, I screwed up. I know you're still mad at me for unleashing the dinosaurs in the first place. I know you're also mad at me for figuring out a way to hybridize them and let them terrorize the entire globe. My bad. I also created these locusts, which are now eating all our food. But I've got the solution. Let me have this clone girl so I can fix the problem. And it works.
A
Works.
D
That would have been a 10 to 10 movie for me, right?
C
Right.
D
They completely flip everything as it is. Way too much going on. That doesn't settle on one movie here. Because I think Colin knew. This is my last shot at it. I'm putting in every single idea I had, and there's just too many ideas. Three out of ten for me.
A
Three out of ten. Okay, so a little worse than task. What about you?
C
I mean, as you say, Trey, you know, the. The whole BD Wong thing. You just reminded me. Jeff. Jeff Goldblum. Malcolm saying. No, it's him. It's always him.
A
Yeah, that was good. Yeah.
C
He has so many lines like that. It's like you got a dinosaur on your back. Like, oh, you made a promise to a dinosaur. Like, all Those lines are just, like, just pointing out how shitty this movie is. And there's no stakes. There's a one moment in when Ellie and Dr. Grant are in this, the decontamination thing, after they've gotten the DNA sample and they drop the wristband, right? And you're like, okay, okay, there's gonna be some. This is gonna be something. There's gonna. There's trouble here. No, they just pick it right back up. You know what I mean? Like, the whole movie was like that for me. Like, just, oh, don't worry about it. We just need to get to the island to reunite everybody and then just continue on and that's all. We just want that money shot of having them all together.
A
We want the Avengers shot, and it's still a kids movie, so we can't kill anybody in their minds, which, really, I don't.
C
I don't understand the people. Characters die in kids movies all the time. All the time. But, you know, whatever. Who are we? This thing made a billion dollars. It's made a billion dollars. 73% of the audience says it's great. I love it.
A
Yeah.
C
But I'm not one of them. This is a one.
A
Oh, whoa.
C
If I could go lower, I would, but I'm going to stick to the rules. This is one out of ten for me.
A
Okay. So your least favorite of the bunch by far.
D
So how would you describe it, though? If you were describing a button. Third from the top or fourth from the bottom. Jesus.
A
It's the same.
C
I couldn't possibly be more clear.
D
I will give it a one. Ten from the top.
C
Exactly.
A
I'm with Trey and JD that it's the worst of the six movies we've seen, in my opinion. And I was not a big Lost World fan. I think I like it a little bit more than this one. You know, now there's a huge age gap in, like, just how things look in the action sequences. Like, there's some things going on for it. I did, like, the Claire scene where she's under the water and her, like, when she got injected and stuff. But, yeah, I could have just used stakes as the best way to put it.
C
Yeah.
A
I would have loved if somebody had died. I would have cried. Probably would have cried.
C
Yep.
A
Unless it was Dr. Wu, I guess, you know?
D
But finally, nobody.
A
And you never think they're going to either. Like, it didn't take long to be like, oh, okay, well, everybody's going to survive here. And obviously, Sattler, like, also the payoff, even if I'm being Honest. Of Sattler and Grant kissing. I don't know. Yeah, it wasn't that amazing. They're just there on the tarmac and like, Maisie's looking at like, oh, I already saw Owen and Claire kiss earlier in the movie. Now I gotta watch these old farts that guys like. So I don't know. It wasn't. I wasn't even that excited about that.
B
I don't even know if it's a payoff, really. I guess that's what it.
C
I guess it's supposed to be.
B
That's for sure.
A
It's supposed to be. I'd like. Did the. Did the audience pop in the theater when they go. And. And here's the truth. Like six movies in here, like you said. J.D. we're watching these back to back to back pre recorded shows and all that, but it's like, even the brachiosaurus has lost its magic. Even like, even the logging is like, yeah, it's like, all right, here they are again. I was like, now they're stupid. I'm like, just get out of the way, you dummy. So there's a review that. That really hit home too. So I didn't come up with this, but Dominion makes the bizarre decision to skirt around the issue presented in the final moments of Fallen Kingdom, instead. Jumping four years and just picking up in a world where dinosaurs are little more than a minor nuisance to humans. And like, that's what I keep coming back to is like, it's about the locusts, not the dinosaurs. It's like, what? At the end of Fallen Kingdom, for as shitty as that movie was, we were like, wow, okay, now they're free. How are they gonna handle that? And they like, sort of. They're like, I guess it's not a big deal.
D
No. And they're also like, oh, man, once this technology gets, everybody's going to be making their own dinosaurs for their own reasons, right? Nope, Just this one place is still doing it.
A
Only Dr. Wu.
D
This one guy I love when Grant and Wu finally meets and he points at him, I remember you. You're the guy. You're the guy. Like, yeah, man, we're two hours in. Everybody remembers Dr. Wu.
A
He ruins it. Always cut your hair, you hippie.
D
Nah, let's redeem him.
A
All right, so with all that said, I'm going two out of ten. All right. You know, not the. Not a one like JD but wasn't a fan overall of Dominion, and it ranks last for me. Let's hear from you guys out there. What do you think? Of Jurassic World Dominion. We got one movie left. We've almost reached the end. Yeah.
C
We need to save the best for last.
A
Oh. Oh, really? Really, really. We're doing something different here, right? Jurassic World Rebirth. We got a whole. I mean, I don't know if there's any spoilers, because I haven't seen it, but Whole new cast, whole new cast.
C
Whole new cast.
A
Give me the gist of Jurassic World Rebirth. What's the plot they have to go get?
D
Like, they got to go to an island, and guess what? Dinos are running wild there. It doesn't go smooth, but they're trying.
A
To save civilization or, you know, science, or, like a disease, cure a disease. Is this right?
C
It's a pharmaceutical. It's pharmaceutical.
A
Oh, geez. Okay.
C
Yeah.
A
Okay.
B
Yeah.
A
Dr. Wu in it?
C
I don't think so.
A
Oh, this will be the first movie he's not in.
D
I think he's the only guy back.
A
Oh, wow. Rebirth. We're really. Rebirth. Yeah.
D
Totally reborn.
A
Okay, well, that's next week. That's next Friday. Our final movie of our Jurassic park rewatch in Jurassic palace here. Jurassic World Rebirth. So hopefully you'll join us then. If you're enjoying this. I assume you are, because you've now watched or listened to six movies us recap, but hit the like button. Subscribe. Maybe drop us a comment on Apple Podcasts. I saw a couple of you did that. Appreciate that. Five star ratings and reviews. And we'll see you next week. I didn't write down a quote this time. Tassie. Got anything for me? As we say goodbye to the people. Any words?
B
Dr. Malcolm out there?
A
What was the best quote? I guess we could just say the.
D
Callous one is funny.
A
Hey, thanks for joining us. We'll see you next week for the final movie of Jurassic Pals. And what's your story? Why would you ever ask that to a dinosaur? Embrace the day people.
Date: September 11, 2025
In this episode of their summer spin-off series "Jurassic Pals," the No Dunks crew—Skeets, Tas, Trey, and JD—dissect the sixth and most recent entry of the Jurassic Park franchise, Jurassic World Dominion. Known for their basketball coverage, the hosts swap hoops for dinos, breaking down the plot, critiquing characters, poking fun at blockbuster excess, and assessing whether this much-hyped dinosaur saga delivered—or, as most of the panel feels, fizzled. With franchise fatigue setting in, the hosts share their honest (and often hilarious) takes scene-by-scene, highlight the movie’s wildest and weirdest moments, and debate whether this $465 million spectacle does justice to the legacy.
The No Dunks crew’s tone is candid and comedic, mixing affection for the franchise’s history with critical exhaustion at this latest, overstuffed entry. Their scene-by-scene banter highlights plot absurdities, misplaced priorities (big bugs over big dinos), missed opportunities for satisfying callbacks, and the diminishing magic of dinosaurs on screen. A few action setpieces and comedic lines pop, but most of the episode reflects on Dominion as a spectacular but hollow spectacle, leaving the hosts (and probably many listeners) longing for a tighter story and a more satisfying conclusion to the dino saga.
| Segment | Time | Highlight/Quote | |---------|------|-----------------| | Opening, Crew Intros | 00:00–03:41 | “I wish I never had [seen this one].” — Skeets | | Dodgson & Franchise Callbacks | 09:00–11:08 | “Consider this fan service.” — JD | | Malta Action Scene | 32:06–39:44 | “By far the best part of the movie...” — JD | | Claire's Underwater Escape | 52:13–54:29 | “Spectacular stuff. It looked pretty.” — Tas | | Criticism of Plot & Stakes | Throughout | “There’s no stakes.” — JD | | Crew Rankings | 87:32–93:01 | 1–5 out of 10 range; “Worst of the six movies.” — Skeets |
For listeners wondering if they can skip this entry in the Jurassic series—the No Dunks crew would suggest, yes…unless you’re a diehard dino completist, or just want to hear some friends crack wise about blockbuster chaos and franchise fatigue.