'Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom' Rewatch | Jurassic Pals

Summary

No Dunks: “Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom” Rewatch | Jurassic Pals

Date: September 5, 2025
Hosts: Jay Skeets, Tas Melas, Trey Kirby, J.D.
Episode Theme:
A lively, irreverent, and surprisingly detailed breakdown of the fifth entry in the Jurassic franchise, mixing scene-by-scene recaps, genuine reactions, running gags, and sharp critiques. The crew evaluates the film’s set pieces, characters, logic gaps, and overall tone, segueing naturally between mockery, genuine awe, and big-picture questions about franchise storytelling.

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Episode Overview

Main Theme:
The Jurassic Pals rewatch and dissect “Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom,” the fifth Jurassic movie, blending affection for the franchise with their signature critical wit. They weigh the film’s over-the-top spectacle, its narrative shifts, new and recurring characters, the emotional beats (good and bad), and how the movie sets up a wide-open world for the series.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Quick Facts and Setup

[01:10]

• Released June 22, 2018; $465 million budget: “This was the second most expensive film ever made.” (Jay Skeets)
• Grossed $1.3 billion worldwide; directed by J.A. Bayona.
• Brings back Chris Pratt, Bryce Dallas Howard, and Jeff Goldblum (“a sprinkle of Jeff”).

2. Opening Scene and Early Reactions

[03:14 – 06:45]

• The mercenary team’s island heist: snappy commentary on the water engineering, logic gaps (can the Mosasaur just leap over the gates?), and cinematic suspense.
• Beautiful and suspenseful direction, with lightning revealing the T. Rex (“That looks awesome.” – J.D. [06:14])
• Quote: "If you just turn your brain off … This is a classic Jurassic Park cold open. I’m in." – J.D. [06:43]
• Hosts question logic around dinosaur survival—why do characters assume all dinosaurs are dead?

3. Jeff Goldblum’s Cameo, Political Satire, and Character Dynamics

[09:15]

• Goldblum’s Ian Malcolm testifies at a Senate hearing, drawing parallels to Al Gore and climate change.
• Satirical touches: a BBC ticker about the US president questioning dinosaur existence.
• Claire’s new direction: Once a corporate exec, now an eco-activist founding the Dinosaur Protection Group—a character shift the group finds unconvincing.
• Quote: “Her big moment in Jurassic World is her blowing the brains out of a pteranodon. And then they have a kiss. I don’t believe she would ever be pro-dinosaur.” – Trey Kirby [19:01]

4. Side Characters: Franklin and Zia

[11:03]

• General agreement: they’re “functional” plot devices, not real characters (“They could have just been called Hacker and Doctor.” – Trey Kirby [11:34])
• Franklin’s comic-relief scream gets a few laughs; Zia’s occupation as a paleo-veterinarian is met with skepticism.

5. Lockwood Estate and “The Plan”

[14:18]

• Lockwood’s “partner we’ve never heard of” is retconned in—stances on his mansion/museum, his duplicate amber cane, and suddenly noble aims.
• The new island sanctuary plan is poked full of holes (“How are you getting them there then? … Don’t worry, there’s going to be a yacht with 20 people … and a really rich British couple.” – Jay Skeets [17:27])

6. Owen and Claire Reunite

[18:37]

• Claire recruits Owen with “tickets for this flight” (eye-rolls at how contrived their disagreement/reunion feels).
• Overanalysis of Owen’s motivations for returning—sentiment for “my boy Blue” or just plot necessity?

7. Isla Nublar Rescue Mission and Volcano Mayhem

[21:23 – 34:11]

• Film shifts gears into spectacle:
  • The team’s arrival: shoes are more sensible than last film (“She’s changed.” – J.D. [21:34])
  • Cinematic awe of the brachiosaurus moment, though hosts feel the wonder is underplayed.
  • Blue, their raptor, is shot; Owen gets tranquilized.
  • Lava escape sequence draws a direct (and hilarious) comparison to Leo in “Wolf of Wall Street” (“He’s trying to just drag his like body, which is numb, over the log.” – Jay Skeets [26:24])
• Notable Moment: The death of the brachiosaurus as the ship leaves, evoking real emotion (“It was crying.” – Jay Skeets [35:19])

8. The Ship and Surgery Sequence

[37:46]

• Owen and Claire must perform an impromptu blood transfusion from a T. rex to save Blue—a scene played for absurdity, with video game comparisons.
• “Feels like a video game now … we’re on the ‘getting the blood transfusion’ level.” – J.D. [37:46]

9. Lockwood Estate: Mansion Thriller

[41:45 on]

• Black market dinosaur auction is straight out of “Bond villain meets Trump donor’s house,” with prices mapped to NBA contracts (see below).
• The introduction of the Indoraptor—hybrid dinosaur designed as a weapon—leads to haunted-house hijinks.
• Comic relief: Auctioneer Eversole’s Trump impression, overpriced dino madness.
• Quote: “If you want to create an addict, you gotta give him a taste.” (on selling the prototype) – Mills [51:12]
• Wheatley's death delivered for laughs, as Indoraptor “fakes sleep” and chomps his hand.

10. Maisie’s Secret and Moral Dilemmas

[53:32 – 65:07]

• Plot twist: Maisie is revealed to be a human clone—the group finds this “jump the shark” territory. (“When it was revealed she’s a clone … this is when it’s completely, completely, completely jumped the shark.” – Trey Kirby [80:15])
• The moral dilemma: Claire almost opens the doors to free the dinos, but Maisie does instead, uttering “I had to. They’re alive—like me.”
• Big picture: The hosts agree the ending is more setup than payoff, launching the (inevitable) dinos-in-our-world sequel.

11. Final Scenes and Set-ups

[67:13]

• Dinosaurs unleashed: Blue walks free, mosasaur surfs waves, T. Rex faces down a lion, pteranodons over Las Vegas.
• Jeff Goldblum’s bookend Senate speech about the “new Jurassic period” is both epic and comic fodder.
• Hosts’ wish list: more Planet of the Apes style world-building, less going through the motions.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you just turn your brain off … This is a classic Jurassic Park cold open. I’m in.” – J.D. [06:43]
• “Her big moment in Jurassic World is her blowing the brains out of a pteranodon. I don’t believe she would ever be pro-dinosaur.” – Trey Kirby [19:01]
• “It sounded exactly like the brontosaurus. So I just paused it and went and hugged my cat for a good eight minutes.” – Tas Melas [36:56]
• “This feels like a video game now. … we’re on the ‘getting the blood transfusion’ level.” – J.D. [37:46]
• “If you want to create an addict, you got to give him a taste.” – Mills [51:12]
• On the dinosaur auction: “They should be running this up, but … even the shitty dinosaurs are like $10 million.” – J.D. [44:13]
• On Maisie’s clone reveal: “I did a real ‘what the hell’s going on here?’ for sure.” – Jay Skeets [54:13]
• “Jump the shark—Maisie’s a clone.” – J.D. [81:38]
• "If you went to a Dino auction, what would you bid on?" – Trey Kirby [74:00]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:10] Intro, box office & production facts
• [03:14 – 06:45] Opening underwater heist, team’s reactions
• [09:15] Goldblum in Senate, satire, Claire’s character shift
• [11:03] New sidekicks: Franklin & Zia
• [14:18] The Lockwood estate, plot to save the dinos
• [18:37] Owen & Claire’s reunion, Blue’s motivation
• [21:23] Isla Nublar rescue begins—boots vs. heels, volcanoes, awe moments
• [35:13] Brachiosaurus death scene and emotional reaction
• [37:46] Shipboard T. rex blood transfusion sequence
• [41:45] Mansion, auction, Indoraptor & Wheatley’s fate
• [53:32] Maisie’s clone revelation
• [62:47] Unlocking caged dinosaurs, moral dilemmas, unlocking sequel world
• [67:13] Finale montage: dinos at large, Goldblum’s coda
• [80:15] Hosts’ rankings and verdicts

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Running Gags, Callbacks, and NBA References

• Hosts (especially Trey) compare auctioned dinosaur sale prices to NBA contracts.
  • E.g., Ankylosaurus ($10M) = T.J. McConnell money / Indoraptor ($40M) = Zion Williamson money.
• Complaints about how “turn your brain off!” is necessary to enjoy the movie.
• Recurrent ribbing of overused plot points (clones, evil corporate types, “bigger badder” dinosaurs).
• Frequent allusions to Fast & Furious sequels (“Dinos on an airplane—just wait.”)

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Hosts' Verdicts & Rankings

• The consensus: Great set pieces (opening, volcano, auction chaos), but movie loses focus in the mansion and with the "Maisie is a clone" twist.
• Ratings hover in the 4-5/10 range:
  • Tas Melas: 5/10 – “Sells it right off the bat that we’re in this new world … 50% rate here.”
  • Trey Kirby: 4/10 – “Kind of the first real dud of the series for me. It’s two movies spliced together.”
  • J.D.: 4/10 – “Just dumb. Jump the shark: Maisie = clone.”
  • Jay Skeets: 5/10 – “More enjoyable than The Lost World, but it’s not the best.”
• Lists so far (Skeets):
  1. Jurassic Park
  2. Jurassic World
  3. Jurassic Park 3
  4. Fallen Kingdom
  5. The Lost World

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Fun and Insightful Observations

• The movie never actually says “Fallen Kingdom.”
• Debate on “which dinosaur would you buy” at an auction sparked NBA analogies and running jokes on dino utility.
• Calls for the franchise to go full Planet of the Apes or Mad Max for future installments.

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Summary

The Jurassic Pals take a gleefully sharp look at all that’s thrilling, silly, and frustrating in Fallen Kingdom. The movie impresses with visual spectacle, set pieces, and some emotional moments, but earns criticisms for cartoonish villains, logic flaws (“turn off your brain!”), and losing sight of character motivations. Ultimately, it’s seen as a passable series entry—fun in pieces, but not living up to the franchise’s highs.

Up next: “Jurassic World: Dominion” and the dinosaur apocalypse!

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Favorite final quote:
“These creatures don’t need our protection. They need our absence.” – Jeff Goldblum, quoted by Jay Skeets [86:29]

Transcript

[J.D.]

Foreign.

[Jay Skeets]

Welcome to Jurassic Pals, the no Dunk summer podcast series where we're watching and reviewing every movie from the Jurassic park franchise. Today we're at the fifth film, Jurassic World, Fallen Kingdom. I'm Jay Skeets here in the classic factory and alongside me he pronounces bath as bath. It's tasmalis.

[Tasmalis]

I wish I did.

[Jay Skeets]

Next to him, he worked the phones for the dinosaur protection group. It's Trey Kirby. Did a great job there. And last but not least, he's got one big ass garage. It's super producer J.D.

[J.D.]

That'S true. That's true.

[Jay Skeets]

There is. Yes, yes. Not as big as.

[J.D.]

No, less elevators.

[Jay Skeets]

Less elevators. But still pretty big. I mean, we got a factory in here.

[J.D.]

That's true. Exactly. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

All right, thanks for joining us. If you're enjoying Jurassic Pals, we ask you to kindly hit the like button. To subscribe, to share the show, to hit your boys with the five star ratings and reviews. Don't do it for us, do it for the dinosaurs. All right, quick facts for Jurassic World, Fallen Kingdom.

[J.D.]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

It was released in America on June 22, 2018. The production budget up to $465 million. This was the the second most expensive film ever made.

[J.D.]

Damn.

[Trey Kirby]

Respect nothing but respect for that wise use of money.

[Jay Skeets]

It did well though. It grossed over 1.3 billion worldwide, making it the third Jurassic film to pass that billion dollar mark. So hey, look, you put that money into it, they got it back and more the skinny for Fallen Kingdom. When the island's dormant volcano begins roaring to life, Owen and Claire mount a campaign to rescue the remaining dinosaurs from this extinction level. Runtime just over 2 hours. 2 hours, 8 minutes. We got Chris Pratt back. We got Bryce Dallas Howard back. And hey, a little Jeff Goldblum back in our lives.

[Trey Kirby]

A sprinkle of Jeff.

[Jay Skeets]

Just a sprinkle of Jeff. But I mean, he must have shot his scenes in four hours.

[J.D.]

Yeah. You need me for half a day.

[Trey Kirby]

I'll be there, beard in hand.

[Jay Skeets]

And it was directed by Ja Bayona. So he directed Fallen Kingdom.

[J.D.]

He.

[Jay Skeets]

He did the Society of the Snow, which is pretty good, I thought. Really good movie that was released in 2023. That's the only film I'm familiar with from his catalog.

[J.D.]

Sam. I think this is the only movie of his that I've seen this one.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Any dinos in that one?

[Jay Skeets]

No. Okay. No, no. Snow dinos.

[Trey Kirby]

Dinos on an airplane. Just wait.

[Jay Skeets]

No, no. Just wait. Just like Fast and Furious, right? Where they eventually go to the moon in a Car.

[Trey Kirby]

They go to Stassar.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, well let's get into this thing. Six months after the Jurassic World incident and the Indominus Rex's death, a small mercenary team arrives at the abandoned Isla Nublar to collect the DNA from its remains in the lagoon. All right, this is how this one starts.

[J.D.]

Okay. That.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, yes, this is how it starts. Explain to me the gate setup. Are those, are those underwater gates or were those gates, the above ground gates that we've seen. A lot of times we go through those gates and things are flooded.

[Jay Skeets]

I think they were underwater gates keeping the Mosasaurus. Yes. In there in the lagoon or whatever you want to call it. But then obviously a malfunction. That's my interpretation.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, yeah, I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure. It was very rainy.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Last time we were there was the dry season and now it's.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Quite wet.

[J.D.]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good question.

[Jay Skeets]

That's a lot of water though.

[J.D.]

Yeah, yeah, you're right.

[Tasmalis]

I always get excited to see water engineering, but in this instance, in this instance, you know, you see a dog, you see a dam, very excited. In this instance, not all that excited. What is it really? Blocking.

[Jay Skeets]

Blocking it from getting out to the ocean?

[Tasmalis]

Well, if it wants to. I mean it could jump anything. That thing could jump.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, it can leap quite high.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Tasmalis]

Are they in the ground? Are they so far below water? Anyways, it doesn't really matter.

[Trey Kirby]

I just couldn't tell if we had had just a massive flood as well as the dinosaur out.

[Jay Skeets]

I think it's raised the water level. Sure. Rain, but I think it's an underwater gate. Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, you need those. You would need it if you have a Mosasaur.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. So after a two man team collects a bone sample, the Mosasaurus devours their submissible like their little sub that they're under those two guys. So they just get devoured by that thing and then sexy Rexy, the last surviving Tyrannosaurus attacks the team. Especially that one guy in the yellow jacket. Right. Opening this gate. I mean he's there to do that.

[Trey Kirby]

Bad job.

[Jay Skeets]

But the surviving members escape with the bone sample by helicopter. And just when you think the guy in the yellow jacket has escaped the T. Rex, the Mosasaurus kills him like straight up bites him off of the ladder and then eventually swims through that partially open underwater gate into the ocean. Does say that in my notes, or at least media says that.

[Tasmalis]

So why you think should have closed it?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, who should have closed? The guy in the Yellow jacket.

[Tasmalis]

Somebody but the T. Rex showed up.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, he had a bad connection. Stopped on at 64% of the way through, unfortunately.

[Jay Skeets]

What did we think of the opening of this Jurassic World? Fallen Kingdom? JD Were you a fan?

[J.D.]

I. Honestly, I was a fan. If I, you know, turn your brain off and don't ask any questions. Like, why would the Mosasaur want to eat a submersible submarine? Like, that's food. That counts as food. Does it? I mean, do you know that there's guys in there?

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, it's like a sunflower seed, I guess. Crack it open, eat the nut on the inside, get it out.

[J.D.]

Okay, sure.

[Tasmalis]

I mean, so is it the Titan?

[J.D.]

I think. I think this, this sequence and this movie in general is actually pretty well directed. Like the flashes of the lightning when you see. You see glimpses of the T. Rex.

[Jay Skeets]

That looks awesome.

[J.D.]

You know, again, it's like this thing is. Supposedly makes a lot of noise, but to be fair, there's a helicopter. There's a lot going on. Maybe he didn't hear him coming. Fine. The ladder sequence, you know, him, them dropping the lad taking off, but dropping the ladder and then him grabbing the ladder and all of that. It was exhilarating. It was fun. I. It was like, okay, I'm in. This is great. This is a classic Jurassic park cold open. This is great stuff. I'm in.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, I'm with you. I thought it looked awesome.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, Great scene.

[Jay Skeets]

But it is like, the weird part to me is I think one of the guys says, like, don't worry, all the dinosaurs are dead.

[J.D.]

Right? Why the hell would he think that?

[Trey Kirby]

It's been six whole months.

[Jay Skeets]

That was, like, weird. Why would you think that? I don't get that.

[J.D.]

There's also the Moses the Mosasaurus ate. The. The Indoraptor, Right?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

Or not the Indoraptor.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

It definitely chomped its neck. It was Indominus.

[J.D.]

Indominus.

[Trey Kirby]

Jesus.

[Jay Skeets]

Trying to keep track of.

[J.D.]

Presumably it was consumed, but the skeleton is perfectly preserved. So you shat out like a perfectly preserved skeleton.

[Jay Skeets]

You gotta turn your brain off, J.D.

[J.D.]

I know, exactly. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying. Okay, so brain off. Skeleton there. All good. All good.

[Jay Skeets]

You liked it as well?

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, yeah. I thought good suspense, good scary parts. I mean, I'm excited to see the T. Rex and the Mosasaurus right away. They're going to play a huge part in this movie, aren't they?

[Jay Skeets]

Right.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, we do never see the Mosasaurus again until the Very last second of this movie. And that was my favorite dino coming out of Jurassic World. So I was thinking we're gonna get a lot of Mosasaur from here on out. But, yeah, I thought this was a pretty solid start. The curtain yanker, if you will. But that's gotta be the worst job to have. You think it's bad being the underwater guy, but guy sent to be on the island. You never know what's gonna go down there. That guy always gets chomped. That's like a new guy on the totem pole.

[J.D.]

Sorry.

[Trey Kirby]

You gotta go be on the ground. You got to work your way up to being in the water.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. And also, I mean, just check the forecast.

[Trey Kirby]

We can't go today.

[Jay Skeets]

We don't need to go to rainy.

[J.D.]

Exactly.

[Jay Skeets]

Just wait. Tomorrow. Just do it tomorrow for sure. Also do it during the day. Why aren't we doing it during the day?

[J.D.]

Right. Great question.

[Jay Skeets]

There's no reason to do it at night there. Except the dinosaurs.

[Tasmalis]

It's just that your brain's on, though. Your brain's on, though. Turn it off. You got to turn it on. And I do like the initial. All right. Everyone's getting eaten. Right off the bat, we don't hear a theme song. This is officially a different Jurassic World, which is, you know.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tasmalis]

So I'm ready.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Tasmalis]

I'm ready. Let's go.

[Jay Skeets]

Well, three years later, we jump ahead in time. A U.S. senate committee debates whether Ila Nublar's dinosaurs should be saved from an impending volcanic eruption. This is Dr. Ian Malcolm. He's testifying that the dinosaurs should perish naturally to correct the wrongful cloning done by John Hammond. So this is what he's telling the US Senate here, Trey. And we get to see Goldblum in his beard.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, he's supposed to look like Al Gore talking about the dangers of climate change. And he does look a little bit like Al Gore talking about the dangers of climate change. And just like Al Gore was right. So is Dr. Ian Malcolm right here. But I gotta admit, I laughed out loud when they had the little news segment that says a volcano is coming to re extinct the dinosaurs. Hilarious thing to do as a setup. It's like we brought him back, and guess what? They're in trouble once again. And, you know, all of the scientists basically are like, yeah, just let him die. Just completely let him die. Even the government is like, yeah, we're gonna let him die. But Claire's in. As we'll see. Claire is in.

[J.D.]

Right, right, right, right.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[J.D.]

I love that during the Senate hearing or whatever, he goes, yeah, I think we should. Our magnificent dinosaurs. I think we should let them perish. And then you hear this little piece of adr, like next to him go, murder.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, I closed the talking about.

[J.D.]

It's like, okay, that's a little harsh, but yeah, the BBC broadcast, I mean, look, that's my household newscast. So I was like, hey, so that was cool. So from the actual set and there was. I don't know if you noticed this as well, but in the TICKER it said, U.S. president questions the existence of dinosaurs in the first place. It was during Trump's first term. So, like, hilarious. But yeah, this is a great start. And, you know, Claire being in on the, you know, the, the eco side of it, now that she's. She's bought in, she's born again. They went from assets to animals exactly for her. So, you know, that makes sense for her character, but it's just like. Anyways, you're going to get to the. To that scene, I'm sure. So go ahead.

[Jay Skeets]

Well, yeah, Jurassic World's former operations manager, Claire Dearing. This is Bryce Dallas. Howard has established the Dinosaur Protection Group to save the animals. So, yeah, she's done a complete 180 on how she feels about these dinosaurs. And this is where we meet two characters in this movie. Former park technician Franklin Webb and paleo veterinarian Zia Rodriguez. So, Franklin and Zia for the first time. Tk, were you a fan of these two?

[Trey Kirby]

Nope, Nope. These characters didn't even need names. They could have just been called Hacker and Doctor. These people are there just to provide services later on. I didn't think we got anything from either of them as characters, except for being mostly annoying in Franklin's case and disappearing for an hour and a half of the movie in Zia's case.

[Tasmalis]

Oh, I disagree. I thought Franklin's screaming ability was fantastic.

[Jay Skeets]

He has a great scream.

[Tasmalis]

That's why he was cast, how he was casted, I'm sure. Let's hear a scream. What's a great pitch? So many giggles. So many giggles. Just hearing him scream. So worth it.

[Jay Skeets]

Jd, are you a fan of these two?

[J.D.]

No. God, no. I mean, look, this whole thing of, you know, Claire arrives in the elevator, that's broken. Same shot. We see her in the first, but she's carrying coffee and she's trying, you know, working in this broken down place. Okay, sure. But then, you know, Zia is on the phone to a congressperson, right? And she's just like completely shitting the bed immediately, like, getting defensive about being a paleo veterinarian. That's a real job. Is that a real job? Is a valid question. You know, why are you calling me? And then she passes the phone up. I can't deal with this person. It's like, wow, this is incompetence. Her job is to work the phones, right?

[Jay Skeets]

Well, she says she shouldn't be working the phones at all.

[Trey Kirby]

I'm a doctor, not a telemarketer.

[J.D.]

Why is she there then? Why is she there?

[Trey Kirby]

Why?

[J.D.]

Because there's no dinosaurs for her to heal. Because she's a paleo veterinarian.

[Jay Skeets]

Right, right, right.

[Trey Kirby]

It's actually the best time to be.

[J.D.]

A paleo veterinarian, I guess, if you're.

[Trey Kirby]

Gonna be up until the last 30 years. No use for him.

[J.D.]

That's right. That's right. And she employs her skills with direct pressure for most of the movie. Right? Like, that's all she does. I'm gonna keep this raptor alive. Direct pressure. That's it. And okay, there's a blood transfusion.

[Jay Skeets]

She doesn't even really do the blood trans part of it.

[J.D.]

But yeah, yeah, the one thing that she should have done extra anyways, whatever. Then. Then she gives the phone to Claire, who's just like, somehow works her magic. Right? Okay, Congresswoman, let me ask you this. Blah, blah, blah. Your kids, well, you're going to let them go. To go extinct, Congresswoman is like, yeah, you know what? You're right. I'm with you. News conference immediately. Immediately. We're not doing it. What is the point of the phone call? Like, you're calling a congresswoman who's going to vote on this thing. That's been voted for hours ago, obviously. So, like, this is not how life works. It's not. Turn off your brain. Turn off your brain. That's it? I just have to turn off my brain?

[Jay Skeets]

Well, after the Senate votes against government involvement in rescuing the animals, like you said, JD Hammond's former partner, Sir Benjamin Lockwood, invites Claire to his estate. So Lockwood and his aide, Eli Mills, reveal a plan to relocate the dinosaurs to a new island sanctuary. Right. And he shows her and all that. And they need Claire to reactivate the park's tracking system to locate the animals, particularly the last surviving velociraptor. And we'll get to Owen in a second. But yeah, this plan here tas to relocate the dinosaurs. Mills says they're going to save at least 11 species, and they really want Blue, the velociraptor. She's the last of her kind. The second most intelligent species on the planet. So at first we meet this guy and I guess you're like, okay, he's trying to save these animals.

[Tasmalis]

Right?

[Jay Skeets]

Did you buy it or did you go see right through this?

[Tasmalis]

No, I'm in. I'm in. I like the names, the written names of Eli Mills, Lockwood. I mean, I, I like Jeff Goldblum in the Senate. I thought, all right, here we are, we're rolling. And so I was excited at this point, I really liked being in Lockwood's home. I like being there.

[Jay Skeets]

You can't even call that a home.

[Tasmalis]

Nah, I don't know what that is.

[J.D.]

Yeah, it's a museum. It's in a state. It's in a state.

[Jay Skeets]

They had the underground lab. Yeah. That's where they extracted the first dinosaur DNA before it all began. We do learn that in, in some sort of dialogue here. Mill saying that about him.

[Trey Kirby]

It's got a whole museum.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah.

[Tasmalis]

Yeah. I guess they did call it an estate.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tasmalis]

Yes. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

And as they're driving up, somebody makes the joke about the big ass garage. Yes.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, he does have a big garage. I do feel like Benjamin Lockwood kind of curious. We hadn't heard about him through the first four movies. He was there at the beginning. He was there at the beginning. So early, in fact, that he has his own amber cane.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Like that is the coolest prop in the history of Jurassic Park. Right up there with the Barbasol can. And Benjamin Lockwood apparently has one. He tells us that it's just John's dream to have these animals out roaming around with no human interference. And I'm just thinking it is. Since when?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, right.

[Trey Kirby]

When was that ever John Hammond's dream? Yeah, his dream was to build a park and send people there. We know that because he built one in Isla Nublar. And guess what? He built another one in San Diego.

[Jay Skeets]

Right. Yeah, we saw that.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, they act like movies 2 and 3 don't exist once we get to Jurassic World. But I'm telling you, he built two places for humans to come and see him.

[J.D.]

Right. I would argue that he, it became his dream. Right. He did want to monetize the dinosaurs.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[J.D.]

But by the end of two, he's saying, we gotta leave these guys alone. Just leave him on site B. The best thing we can do is just stay out of it.

[Jay Skeets]

And so they have now found, in theory a new island to transport them all to. Because it's like natural barriers and fully self sustaining that's what they're telling us. That's what Mills is selling. Clear on.

[J.D.]

Right, right. So, so what, like a Skull island?

[Jay Skeets]

I guess.

[J.D.]

Like where you can't get to it? Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Which, which. How are you getting them there then?

[J.D.]

Exactly?

[Jay Skeets]

Don't worry. There's going to be a yacht with like 20 people that work on the yacht and a really rich British couple also finding this island. Yeah. All right. And they're going to be firing up some prawns on the beach. They're gonna find it anyway. Claire recruits Owen Grady because he is the former velociraptor trainer. They need him to help capture Blue. So need Claire for the whole activating the tracking system. They need her handprint, basically. And then they need Owen to help capture Blue. And this scene is Owen building a cabin on a beautiful piece of property that he's got. He's got a camper van there, but he's building himself a house, a cabin. And then she comes up from behind. Oh, you want to grab a beer? So they go to a bar. They argue over who left each other first. So they're not together. We, you know, that's clear. And then Claire leaves Owen like, okay, well, I've got you a ticket for this flight. Hopefully see you there. And later that night, Owen fires up his iPad and watches old clips of him training the Navy Raptors. And that's enough, I guess, to like, encourage him to maybe go see Blue one more time because he'll be on that plane.

[J.D.]

My boy Blue.

[Jay Skeets]

I know how they never say, never says it, but it's a crazy.

[J.D.]

Is it?

[Jay Skeets]

Well, yeah, I don't.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I mean, I guess this is pure DNA, as Dr. Wu tells us. And this, to me, JD is why it doesn't make any sense that Claire is pro dino in this movie. Why would she be pro dino if Owen is not pro dino? Yeah, he's ready to let Blue die. She said, you're just gonna let Blue die? He's like, well, yeah, there's no point in going back. He's smart. He said it right away when the Indominus rex got out. He's like, blow it up. Blow up the whole island. He doesn't care about these dinosaurs. Claire, prior to that conversation, didn't care about these dinosaurs. Call them assets. Her big moment in Jurassic World is her blowing the brains out of a pteranodon. And then they have a kiss. I don't believe she would ever be pro dinosaur, especially if her on again, off again boyfriend is saying, no, we should do this. One that I have a personal connection with. That one should die, specifically.

[J.D.]

Oh, you're 100% right. I mean, let's be honest. Anybody who was on that island, any of the versions of the islands would be, kill the dinosaurs. You gotta kill them. Yeah, they're great to look at outside.

[Jay Skeets]

Of any time they engage with a Brachiosaurus.

[J.D.]

Right. Okay, fine.

[Trey Kirby]

Those are Brachiosaurus.

[Jay Skeets]

Exactly.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

Okay. The hardest to get off the island, let's be honest. What do you put.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, they get. Somehow they get it in the basement.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, I hated that.

[J.D.]

That was a baby, though, right? Like a young one?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, it could be.

[Jay Skeets]

Had to, but yeah. Okay. Well, anyway, that's where we leave any thoughts on Owen and Claire getting together here again and her trying to convince him to come?

[Tasmalis]

Well, yeah. It's hard to believe that Claire cares about dinosaurs, but you got to wash that last Jurassic park clean. It's not in. It's just not part of the era anymore. So if somebody's watching this for the first time, and I guess he can buy it. But if you're watching the sequels, it.

[Jay Skeets]

Doesn'T make any sense if you're doing what we're doing. I agree.

[Trey Kirby]

She's a totally different character.

[Tasmalis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[J.D.]

Well, you could call that growth. But also, I. I'm with you. I. I don't believe it. I just don't believe it. And who's watching this? This is five movies in who's watching this that who hasn't seen at least one of them?

[Trey Kirby]

Also, by the end of this movie, Claire is gonna let him die.

[Jay Skeets]

She's gonna. She closes the thing.

[Trey Kirby]

She's like, die away.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, she's a fraud.

[Jay Skeets]

They are now on, like, on Earth in America, I guess, but it's a little different.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Anyway, they're on this flight. They. Obviously, Owen's on the flight, and they get there. Claire and Franklin reactivate the online tracking system. Owen Zia and a mercenary team led by Ken Wheatley track and Find Blue. Now, I will say this movie's not all that funny, but I did laugh out loud. And I popped a little bit when they absolutely made sure to show us Claire stepping off the plane in sensible shoes.

[J.D.]

Yeah. Very nice.

[Jay Skeets]

That made me laugh. That was pretty funny. Cause we talked a lot about that in the last one. How is she wearing high heels through this entire movie? So it focused on her feet there for a moment.

[Tasmalis]

She's changed.

[Jay Skeets]

Good pair of boots. She's changed.

[J.D.]

That's right. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

That's right. And, you know, we got A bunch of other things going on here before we get to like the action there with blue. But we do see a brachiosaurus, J.D.

[J.D.]

We do.

[Jay Skeets]

And Zia sees a dinosaur for the first time, a real one. So, yeah, there was a little wonder. There's always wonder in awe when you see the brachiosaurus.

[Tasmalis]

Not enough.

[J.D.]

Not enough wonder. Now we're done with wonder. We're five movies in. We know we got the wonder part. We don't need. We don't need.

[Tasmalis]

Yeah, but each character, it should. You could, should be able to read it on their face that they are an absolute, but they're not. That's a struggle for me just throughout this whole series. I want more. I want somebody's mouth to be agape at all times when they see a.

[J.D.]

Freaking dino for the first time.

[Tasmalis]

It's seeing a dino for the first time. It's not just a looking at it.

[J.D.]

Okay, fair enough.

[Jay Skeets]

But it's sort of not seeing a dino for the first time either. First off, we don't know they didn't go to Jurassic World as a paying customer.

[J.D.]

Well, we know that Zia didn't.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, we know Zia didn't. But some of these people, they've also seen it on TV and in the news and stuff like that. So it's a little different than way back in the day when it was like, I know you'd still go crazy.

[Tasmalis]

Seeing a person versus in person, a frickin dino. I just hate the groups of. At least when there's a group of them, there's like four people. There's. Honestly, there's not even one face. There's like four people that are just looking at the frickin thing like, I know you're probably not looking at a.

[Jay Skeets]

Dino, so that's bad directing. Yeah, I was gonna say, like they're looking at a green screen or someone, you know, dressed as a dinosaur. More wonder.

[Trey Kirby]

The tallest guy, more astonishment.

[J.D.]

Whose faces are you talking about? Zia is into it. She's a veterinarian.

[Tasmalis]

She's the only one.

[J.D.]

The rest of them have either been there or they're mercenaries or they're scared shitless. In Franklin's, it wasn't that scared. Yeah, I suppose he didn't do anything. Well, yeah, I mean, look, we needed to have this one moment of wonder because it, it makes it hit that much harder when you see that brachiosaur and getting engulfed in the. In the ash and later on in the movie. But yeah, I mean, I don't need, I don't need any more wonder with these movies?

[Jay Skeets]

I did, like, the little quick shot of we see like an old gift shop with all, like, the stuffed dinosaurs you can buy and then, like, it's like a little compy or whatever.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Like, like takes off for a second. It's a stuffed animal.

[J.D.]

Totally.

[Jay Skeets]

So they. They had to recreate Jurassic World and then destroy it, basically for this movie.

[J.D.]

Right.

[Jay Skeets]

I think it was done in a completely different spot.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Well, again, we got the one team going to get Blue. And so that encounter escalates and it results in Blue being shot and Wheatley tranquilizing Owen. So, you know, he's doing his whole Owen thing with Blue and it looks like it's going okay. And Blue seems to be trusting him. And I think he's getting close to touching him. Right?

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Like that majestic looking shot. Yep. But then Sony freaks out, so they absolutely just go crazy on Blue. And then Blue attacks the one guy and that guy gets like, a gun and, like, shoots Blue.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

And then Owen's all pissed off and that's when Ken Wheatley tranquilizes him.

[Trey Kirby]

I laughed. I laughed when Wheatley shoots Owen right in the chest of the dart. I was like, yeah, you know, tough stuff for Blue to get hit with a real gun and tranked up. But I can't blame the guard for freaking out when he's getting destroyed by a raptor, which is what these things do. A couple of decent lines, I think, from Owen in this whole sequence. Like when he meets Franklin for the first time in the convoy and they're talking about how he's not scared. And he says, I rode my. Rode my motorcycle through the jungle with a pack of raptors. I left. And then when they're figuring out he's going to. Well, I guess he volunteers to be the one to go track down Blue. And him and Claire get close. They hug each other. He looks her in the eye and says, if I don't make it back, remember you're the one who made me come. Which is a very funny double entendre line. Also very funny because she did drag him there against his will to save this dinosaur that he is buds with.

[Tasmalis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[J.D.]

There's the.

[Tasmalis]

The Claire Owen vocab. The dialect is pretty. You're a better man than you think you are. When you said that earlier. Oh, you should write foreign fortune cookies. I can't talk today. Remember what she says to him? Yeah, yeah, you're a better man. I think you are. You should write fortune cookies.

[Trey Kirby]

I think he's decent in these couple of scenes for sure.

[Tasmalis]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. Big dinosaur wakes up, Owen licks his face. I don't know which one that was. Can't keep track anymore. This one's got a lot of dinosaurs. Yes.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

It's starting to struggle here, guys. But he. Oh. And somehow manages to avoid the slowly encroaching lava because this thing, this volcano is erupting here on this island. And you know, I was wondering, was this scene inspired by the Wolf of Wall street where Leo's all drugged up trying to get into his Lamborghini? It's got the same notes to it.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

You know, where he's trying to just drag his like body, which is numb, over the log.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

But he does avoid it.

[Trey Kirby]

I liked it. I like the slow motion chase scene.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

I mean. Yeah, turn your brain off. Cuz he would have been on fire like meters away. You know, he got so close to that lava, he would have burst into flames.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, wow.

[J.D.]

I mean, like that's too close, but just too hard. But you know, it's a movie.

[Trey Kirby]

What's the closest you can get?

[J.D.]

I don't know, actually. I don't know.

[Tasmalis]

You'd be on fire.

[J.D.]

Not that close. Not that close, I don't think.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, it was right up to him. Yeah, we're basically almost gone on at one point.

[J.D.]

I mean, look, I don't know much, but I know that hot magma is very, very hot. And it would probably, if it's that close, it's not like the, the floor is lava. You know what I mean? You touch it and then you die. No, it, it gets close to you and you're pretty much.

[Jay Skeets]

I did a little hike in Guatemala and near the top of it, we. They pulled out marshmallows and they had like. There was like little holes in the rocks, like the heat. You could like straight up roast a marshmallow. It was very hot.

[J.D.]

That's perfect.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, I don't know how close I actually was to the lava, the molten inside, but I'm with you, jd. It's very hot.

[J.D.]

Very, very, very hot.

[Tasmalis]

What did that marshmallow taste like? Did it taste like lava?

[Jay Skeets]

No, I was just using that as a heat source. Had no other taste. So Wheatley abandons all of them on the island, but forcibly takes Zia hostage to treat Blue. So you're coming with us because Blue's been shot now and I know how badly you need Blue and whatever basically takes her hostage because you gotta bring Blue back to life or keep Blue alive for this whole thing where we're taking them to obviously the Lockwood estate.

[Trey Kirby]

Do your job, Zia.

[J.D.]

Yeah, right.

[Jay Skeets]

Jd. You said something about Zia before we went live here. Her character, you read that she is like.

[J.D.]

She's an ex Marine. And according to Wikipedia. I don't know if that's true, but.

[Jay Skeets]

They don't say any of that in the movie.

[J.D.]

There's no mention of that.

[Jay Skeets]

She does hold a weapon. Yeah.

[J.D.]

And she looks like she knows what she's doing.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Yeah.

[J.D.]

But. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, well, Claire and Franklin, they're locked in the control center when the volcano lava starts pouring in from the roof. And we got dinosaurs getting into the. Into the center. Like they're coming through the ventilation shaft. And I think that's a. What is that? A baryonyx? That's that. That scary one that comes through this Franklin freaking out here. But they're helped out by the lava coming down lava curtain. I mean, it's keeping the dinosaur at bay. That hot lava, right?

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

That's like sort of a shield.

[J.D.]

This sequence is great. This whole thing where they have to.

[Jay Skeets]

Escape through the hatch door.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Using the chair. Yeah.

[J.D.]

You know, the chair. Getting the chair to Claire notwithstanding, it's a pretty good.

[Jay Skeets]

What didn't you like that? Ripped it out of its mouth.

[J.D.]

I just thought it was stupid. It was just like chair and he has to go grab it and she's just standing there waiting for him. And then. Yeah. Struggling with the dinosaur, I guess. I don't know. That part of it bothered me. But when it's in the tunnel and the little flits of. Of lava again, sort of the same shot of before with T. Rex and the lightning. You let get little glim glimpses of it and stuff. Baryonyx of. First time. First time for me, I've was not familiar.

[Jay Skeets]

That was the first time.

[J.D.]

The first time I've ever heard the word.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh.

[J.D.]

I thought it was a shock.

[Jay Skeets]

You thought it was what?

[J.D.]

You know, I'm gonna. Let me check my Baryonyx stock.

[Jay Skeets]

That sound like a cryptocurrency A little bit. So anyway, yeah, they flee here up through that hatch and then. And then we have a whole other scene, but.

[Trey Kirby]

Go on. I like it. Yeah, I like this scene. I'm rooting for the Dino 100%. I'm like, please get Franklin when he slips down. I was like, got him. Let's go. This guy's here to be annoying. I'm ready for him to get chomped.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Unfortunately, he escapes as well into an exploding volcano. They Go upstairs and the volcano is going off.

[Jay Skeets]

I for some reason was anticipating they were going to go up through that hatch and there not to be like lava everywhere. And I was like, I'm going to be so angry. I don't know why because it's obviously coming through the roof and it was there. So I was happy. Sure. You know, they were on the little hatch part so they could sort of avoid it. But I was like, okay, at least that's good. I don't know why I expected it not to be there. But they run into Owen right away. The volcano eruption has caused this massive now dinosaur stampede. And like, so they go taking off. All the dinosaurs are coming. It looks pretty incredible. This scene's pretty wild. The gyrosphere makes an appearance.

[Tasmalis]

That was awesome.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh my God. I couldn't believe it. It's like, I guess it was lodged under a big log or something. And sort of as the dinosaurs are going through, it becomes unlodged. Two of them, Claire and Franklin, get into it and then that they take off. And then we get the whole underwater part where it goes over the cliff as do some dinosaurs, obviously. The lava's erupting again. This looks pretty amazing. And then we have the whole thing where Owen's got to get him out of this thing. Trick shooting it at first. Then in the end all it took was a bit of a knife.

[Trey Kirby]

He just like pried it out.

[Jay Skeets]

Jar.

[Trey Kirby]

Let me get my rubber hand gripper, see if I can pull it a little harder. I do like when he's like pulled in the gun. This was awesome though. It felt literally like the end of the world. When you're watching. I like the beginning of the scene. It's Owen like running down the hills, Indiana Jones style, running away, which I thought was a nice touch. And then it feels scary. Like it literally feels. This is probably what it was like when the dinosaurs went extinct. Not a thing I've really thought about, but probably something similar. Right. Like crazy explosions going all over the place, stuff coming from the sky. There's is not safe on land, not safe in the water. The underwater stuff I think is a little weaker than the running away and the destruction of the land. But still, I thought this was a pretty sweet set piece.

[Tasmalis]

Yeah. Take a deep breath.

[Jay Skeets]

Let's go.

[Tasmalis]

I do, I do like the audio edit, how it's. Everything is underwater. It does sound cool. Getting there, the run and everybody running as fast as they possibly can. Super fun. The gyro was broken in the last. Well when it, when it was Broken, right? It was smashed. The glass was smashed.

[J.D.]

Buzz is different.

[Jay Skeets]

There's other ones.

[Tasmalis]

Oh, there's multiple. I thought that was a one of one.

[Jay Skeets]

No, because remember we saw the ride of them getting on it and it was like that guy. Oh, yeah. Keep loading them up. I don't know how many there are.

[J.D.]

Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, it's weird that it worked, I guess.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Tasmalis]

But I'm glad it did.

[J.D.]

Don't think about it.

[Tasmalis]

But you're right. The Indiana Jones. Yeah, yeah. Feel that was. That was totally fun. And all these is. I don't know which Dino is the one with the. The tiny arms. If that's a bionics or.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, I'm not sure.

[Tasmalis]

But yeah, it's like. It's like the scary movie flashback of the guy making the food with his little arms. Or. Or snl. I'm dying. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Little tiny.

[Jay Skeets]

That one does have very tiny arms for sure.

[J.D.]

Yeah. Shorter arms. Getting shorter and shorter.

[Jay Skeets]

And then like there's a dinosaur fight amongst this. Is there not? Because he's like, Owen's about to get maybe killed here.

[J.D.]

Yeah, yeah. T. Rex shows up and.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, right. This is a T. Rex. T. Rex is always there.

[Trey Kirby]

It's horny versus super horny.

[J.D.]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

And then the T. Rex comes in, saves the day.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, thank you. I know. It's like always watching T Rex always comes in at the right time.

[Trey Kirby]

I love the T. Rex.

[J.D.]

Yeah. So the underwater part was the best for me. Like, I loved the whole. The whole mountain exploding. But the one shot, Alfonso Karan style, like right out of Children of Men. Yeah, that's all one shot. Just being in the gyrosphere, you know. Would the gun work underwater? I don't know. But the physics of it as well, they like, they basically had to wait for it to fill up with water before they could pry it off.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, true, true.

[J.D.]

And just when they're swimming to the surface and they're. You realize how deep they are as well. It just. All of that is just so gorgeously shot and. Yeah, I thought it was the best sequence in the movie.

[Jay Skeets]

How funny would it have been if William H. Macy was swimming by them under there? I lost 20, 25 more pounds.

[Trey Kirby]

Just ripped.

[Jay Skeets]

Just prize. It saves them and takes off. So they do survive all of this and just make their way to the beach, I guess. Get washed up on shore. And Franklin's electronics is all dead, so he can't track anything. But they see the ship because they see a dinosaur being flown With a helicopter, obviously in a direction. And they find that the ship is being loaded with captured dinosaurs and it's departing as these remaining dinosaurs are left to die. And, man, this is another set piece here where they get on the truck and get on to this big ship. But I teared up again. Brachiosaurus dying there on the. On the dock.

[Tasmalis]

That was tough.

[Jay Skeets]

When it just gets, like, you know, engulfed with the smoke and the flames and it's, like, crying for.

[Tasmalis]

It was crying.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, man.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

You got our theme music, but in a minor keynote.

[J.D.]

You've done it again.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Now I was sad.

[Jay Skeets]

As sad as that is, I am the whole time going, how is nobody noticing that? They are like, just jump the truck onto their ship here. And are also now just looking back like everybody else at the island as it goes up in smoke.

[Tasmalis]

It's because Claire put a John Deere hat on.

[Jay Skeets]

Just blending in so easy.

[Tasmalis]

Yeah, but it is. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Nothing rides like a deer. It was literally fast and furious for like, 30 seconds right there doing a jump.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

And it worked.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

I was mad, though. I was like, not only did you kill off our island, you killed off our brachios.

[Jay Skeets]

I know, man.

[Trey Kirby]

They say it's the same one. Like, production wise, it is the same one that we meet the very first time.

[J.D.]

Even deeper. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

They just send it off halfway through the movie.

[J.D.]

Wow.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Well, this is the funny thing about this movie. Up until this point, I was like, this movie's not that bad. Yeah, I was pretty into it. It looks pretty cool. A ton of dinosaurs, and it goes downhill from here. You guys warned me. Hey, a lot of this is gonna happen in a mansion.

[Trey Kirby]

It's two movies.

[Jay Skeets]

You guys were kidding.

[Trey Kirby]

And this feels like. This feels like an ending to a movie. Like, that would be a perfect end to the second installment in a trilogy like the Dark One. In a trilogy where bad things win rather than good things win. And we're setting up for the third, where somehow they've been released. You know, maybe the gates fail. And then we see the mosasaur swimming out and these dinosaurs escaping. That sets us up perfectly for a third one. That's not what they did.

[Tasmalis]

Yeah. I took a big break here after this moment. Well, first of all, I thought that brontosaurus sounds exactly like my cat. Every time I go to bed, our cat sits up looking at the stairs, doing I'm so. It sounded exactly like the brontosaurus. So I just paused it and went and hugged my cat for a good eight minutes. And I said, I can watch the second part or the sequel of this movie in a second.

[Jay Skeets]

Well, a little later, the trio sneaks aboard the ship or sneaking around the ship, and they find Zia, who's trying to work on Blue, and they're going to help her transfuse Blue with Tyrannosaurus blood from sexy Rexy. Because sexy Rexy's on board this ship in a cage, sedated to save her life. So this is Claire and Owen. JD did you enjoy this scene of trying to get the blood from sexy Rexy?

[J.D.]

I. I did. This is the point of the movie where I'm like, this feels like a video game now. Like this. Everything that's happened to this point, it's just little set pieces where it's like, okay, this is the mission now. Yeah, we're on the. Getting the blood transfusion level of this video game. And then you. You go in to the. To the raptor cage or the. Sorry, the T. Rex cage. And it just like, don't.

[Jay Skeets]

Wait. The. Don't wake the T. Rex.

[Trey Kirby]

Don't wake the T. Rex stealth mission.

[J.D.]

Yeah, the stealth mission. Ex. And it was fun, I guess, the whole, like. Well, I. You know, I took blood at a. Did she say I gave blood or I took blood at the Red Cross one time?

[Trey Kirby]

She just. I think she just says I did a blood drive.

[J.D.]

Right.

[Trey Kirby]

So I guess you could go either way.

[J.D.]

Okay. So she can find a vein on it. On a T. Rex. Anyways, whatever. It was fun, you know, look, this is a massive puppet, like a massive animatronic T. Rex. And it. It works in that confined space. And, you know, Owen diving through the jaws to get out of it is just like. This feels like a video game again. But I don't know.

[Jay Skeets]

You gotta time your jump.

[J.D.]

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't hate. I didn't hate this sequence. I mean, mini mission within the. The main mission. And, you know, it kind of works now. Does T Rex blood go into a raptor?

[Trey Kirby]

Well, any carnivore with two to three toes?

[J.D.]

Well, that's. Yes, I did get that.

[Tasmalis]

Sure.

[J.D.]

Why not?

[Trey Kirby]

But yeah, I laughed when they're basically, they're like, oh, setting it up for a T. Rex blood transfusion. I was like, all right, let's go.

[J.D.]

We're gonna do this.

[Trey Kirby]

This is gonna be pretty funny. I'm kind of with you, J.D. why would you not send the Paleo veterinarian? I think that the others can hold.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes, because they already were.

[Trey Kirby]

Gauze.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Apply pressure.

[Trey Kirby]

I know my number one choice would Be paleo veterinarian. But number two, I guess, is somebody who has been around a blood drive, either as a donor or a taker. So sign me up. I did phlebotomy for a year. I can find a vein. But yeah, I was laughing at this scene. The T. Rex, like, slowly waking up, moving its head back and forth. Feels like they're in a lion's cage at a circus or something like that.

[Jay Skeets]

She gets on top of it and then even goes up through the hatch at the top and then to let him out, and that's when he, Owen, has to jump through the jaws, get.

[Trey Kirby]

Up there just like riding a bull and grow up in a rodeo or.

[Tasmalis]

Wherever you came from.

[J.D.]

That's a decent line.

[Trey Kirby]

I was laughing.

[J.D.]

Look, it's a complete wasted opportunity to give Zia something to do other than be annoying. Do you know what I mean? Like, she's. It could have been a mission for her and we could have learned a little bit more about her. Send her and Franklin and then that gives them both something to do and then give them a little bit of a hero moment, you know, there's no reason it has to be Owen and Claire doing it. You know what I mean?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Again, they're like, we gotta remember, they're like, besides Zia, they're like trying to sneak around this ship too, though. Franklin just gets confused with a worker, right? Like, okay, hey, man, let's go. He's like doing like a million jobs in this company. So, yeah, that's them trying to save Blue here on the ship. The captured dinosaurs are actually being transported to the Lockwood estate, where Lockwood's orphaned nine year old granddaughter Maisie overhears Mills and auctioneer Mr. Eversole secretly planning to sell the dinosaurs on the black market. They will also preview the Indoraptor. Here's the Indoraptor, J.D. another weaponized hybrid dinosaur. This was created by Dr. Henry Wu using the Indominus rex and Velociraptor DNA. So like, they're just like one up in the irex now. They're like, let's make it an Indoraptor. It's even crazier. And if we get Blue's DNA, we can train it even better. And that's the thinking here. And that's why Wu needs Blue's DNA to create the improved Indoraptor. Because this one they have right now, it's like badass, but doesn't, like, follow commands, I guess. But they are also unaware that now Blue's blood is no longer pure.

[Trey Kirby]

She called him sock drawer.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Little did you know, I did an intravenous blood transfusion with a Tyrannosaurus rex. So it's like a sock drawer in there.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. And Maisy informs Lockwood. She goes to Grandpa and tells him about the auction and what they're doing. They're up to no good. And he will confront Mills the next morning. Lockwood will. But he going to die, smothered by a pillow. And down goes the Amber Kane.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, down goes the cane shatters. Wasting the DNA in that prehistoric mosquito.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes.

[Trey Kirby]

Must have been upset. But these guys are gonna make a lot of money. Mr. Eversole, our Trump stand in. I think he's literally doing a trump. The way he talks.

[Jay Skeets]

Wow, I hadn't thought of it. We even get like his hair thing going back later. Indeed.

[Trey Kirby]

And Mills pitches him on making a ton of money. And Eversole responds, 4 million is a slow Tuesday where I'm from. Mills responds, you ever made 100 million on a Tuesday?

[J.D.]

Probably, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, it's only 25 times more. And he said, four is slow, but that'll make a lot more eventually going on.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

I was paying attention to the numbers. This is all lucrative business.

[Jay Skeets]

Good, good, good. Any other notes on this? JD and Maisie trying to. Or overhearing their diabolical plan?

[J.D.]

Well, look, I wish they had leaned even just slightly more into the diabolical ness of the. It's shot like a mad scientist in a lab. You know, BD Wong is back. Weird character. He's sort of stiff again.

[Jay Skeets]

Again.

[J.D.]

Just like. You know what? Let's. Let's just push him over the edge. Let's make him insane. Like, he is actually being held captive. And he's like, got hair everywhere and all he cares about is genetically modifying stuff. Like, you're in a haunted house anyways. You might as well. You might as well run with it. You know what I mean?

[Jay Skeets]

Right.

[J.D.]

So there's that. There's the whole, you know, Toby Jones's character ever saw. Yeah. Hilarious Trump stand in. I love that. I love. It's like, where are my dinosaurs? I only deal with professionals. It's like, when have you ever done an auction of dinosaurs? Like, dinosaur auctioneer.

[Jay Skeets]

He does say everything's a day late.

[Trey Kirby]

Right, Right.

[J.D.]

What are you talking about? They're like, also, these dinosaurs are a bargain. Oh, right.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. They're going so cheap, even the shitty.

[J.D.]

Dinosaurs are like $10 million.

[Tasmalis]

Like, what?

[J.D.]

That's it? Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Mill should hit him with a. You've waited 65 million years. You can't wait another day.

[J.D.]

That's a great line.

[Jay Skeets]

That'd be good. Yeah. And I should say, like, I glossed over it, but we get a couple scenes building up of Mills sort of turning on Maisie, too. Like, you know, he's really nice at first.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

But as it goes on, he's, like, snapping on her, basically telling her shut up and.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

And all that. But again, she's like. She knows something's going on. She's really. She's good at hiding.

[J.D.]

Well, they're purposefully shooting her like a dinosaur, Right? Like this whole movie, it's like, you.

[Jay Skeets]

Think she's got blue blood in her.

[J.D.]

Well, she's. Well, she's one of them. That's what they're. That's what they're trying to say.

[Jay Skeets]

You're right, because even that scene where Claire is first there and. And we see her up top, she just sort of scurry away like a little compy.

[J.D.]

Yeah, exactly. And then there's a scene where she's like. She sneaks up on the nanny and scares the shit out of her. She's like, you know, you're not some queen's. English, please. Like, all that.

[Jay Skeets]

You're not saying.

[J.D.]

You're not some monster. And then she goes. There's. Even when. When she gets locked in the room later, and they. She. She fishes out the key. The door opens a little. It's her eye. Just her eye. Oh, man. It's like dilating in and out. And. And then in that scene when she's in the lab, you see the reflections of all the DNA code and just the symbols and stuff. Just like when the raptor was walking through the lab before. You're right.

[Jay Skeets]

And I read there's a deleted scene where she took a giant shit.

[J.D.]

And Mills is like, that's one big, huge pile of shit.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, that's good stuff.

[Tasmalis]

Yeah, it makes way more sense.

[Trey Kirby]

I would consider the Mazasaurus theory, but I love it.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, so, yeah, the auctioned dinosaurs are being immediately shipped out, and Franklin evades capture. He frees Zia. Here we are at the estate now, and we're going to be here for basically the rest of the movie. But Owen and Claire, they are apprehended and they're put in jail. Go to jail. Directly through jail. Do not pass go. And when they're in there, you know, again, there's a little scene with Franklin where Owen's thinks about breaking his arm and then I think decides not to, but Claire gets a Good. I don't know, like bar shot too. And then you pull him up against the bar and knock him out a little bit.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

And Owen then does the craziest laugh of the entire series.

[J.D.]

Wait, was that him? I thought that was Ted Levine's character.

[Jay Skeets]

You thought that was Ken Wheatley? I thought that was Owen laughing at.

[Trey Kirby]

Claire doing the movie. Smashing the face of Mills.

[J.D.]

Is that Mills?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, that's Mills. Yeah, that's Mills for sure.

[J.D.]

But look, you know, again, turn your brain off. But why? They're obviously basically say, what are we going to do with these guys? We're going to kill them.

[Jay Skeets]

I know.

[J.D.]

What the fuck are you waiting for? Just what do you. This is like Villain 101, you know, like you got to just kill them right away. This is right out of Austin Palace.

[Jay Skeets]

Even if they just said let's just wait until the auction's over.

[J.D.]

Right.

[Jay Skeets]

You know, there is a lot of new people here. Yeah, we'll kill him later.

[J.D.]

Or how about this? Let's test the indoraptor in front of these people with these, these people. Or give them something to do. Be gruesome.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, diabolical.

[J.D.]

Otherwise why are you keeping them alive? You're just asking for trouble.

[Jay Skeets]

That's true.

[Trey Kirby]

He hits him with the we're not so different you and I speech. Basically. So I did like that. At one point Mills calls out Owen for not realizing they would use the dinos for this. Because that's what we said in Jurassic World. What else could you be training him for? Lest it be the circus and they're not paying you enough money that you can have your own plot of land in a cabin if you're going to be a circus tamer.

[J.D.]

Yeah, that's exactly right.

[Jay Skeets]

He calls out both of them.

[Trey Kirby]

You're the parents of Jurassic World.

[Jay Skeets]

That's right. So they're in jail, but Owen incites stygia. Mullock. Friar Tuck, baby.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Strong headed bone man. And yeah, I guess while he was his side hustle, while he was training the velociraptors was to train this thing too. A little whistle. Because that's all it took. He just had to whistle. And then Friar Tuck would just bash his head into it.

[Trey Kirby]

Hates whistling. Hates it.

[Jay Skeets]

And that breaks into their cell. And then he obviously uses it to break out of the cell. There's a funny scene where that Friar Tuck bangs his head into the pole and he's like shakes it off. Makes a great sound effect.

[J.D.]

I don't understand why that affects him. He just.

[Jay Skeets]

Bashing to a brick wall.

[J.D.]

And then a metal cage and then. But that pole just was one too many.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, the final one. So they're out, and this is where Owen and Claire, they meet up with Maisie, and they learn that the Indoraptor is being sold despite wu's protest that it is just a prototype. Right. It's just a prototype. So we have the auction going on like you said. These. These people are getting these dinosaurs at a discount. They don't know how good they have it. They should be running this up, but. But Owen disrupts the auction by luring Friar Tuck, by getting him up there onto that floor. And he just starts going nuts and throwing bodies left and right, chucking people against the wall.

[Trey Kirby]

It looks awesome.

[Jay Skeets]

I do like this a lot.

[Trey Kirby]

Dinosaur is very funny.

[Jay Skeets]

He just seems like a chill bro for some reason, but we'll mess things up. I don't know. He's sort of like. He's almost like Yoshi to me for some reason.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. Feels like I jump on them and ride them around.

[J.D.]

Sure.

[Jay Skeets]

But in the ensuing chaos of this sort of room and the auction going nuts, Wheatley tranquilizes the Indoraptor to extract a tooth as a trophy. That's this guy's kink, I guess, or whatever.

[Trey Kirby]

Like, teeth guy.

[J.D.]

He literally says he's making a necklace.

[Jay Skeets]

That's what he did. Yeah.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

I got into, like, a disagreement with Nora. I missed that line. I'm like, what, is he just doing this because he's getting DNA and, like, he's playing a long game here and, like, he'll also have it. But she's like, no, I think he just wants to make a necklace. Yep.

[Trey Kirby]

He says when he's yanking the tooth, he's like, this will be the centerpiece for my necklace.

[J.D.]

It's a little Buffalo Bill, who's his previous character, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Is she a great big, fat dinosaur?

[Jay Skeets]

But the hybrid here, the Indoraptor, just fakes being unconscious. And, you know, you. You see him playing to us, to the camera. I'm not sleeping.

[J.D.]

I like that.

[Jay Skeets]

He's like, smiles.

[Trey Kirby]

I like it. I actually like it. Like, the tail goes up the first time. Winks at the camera.

[Jay Skeets]

Watch.

[Trey Kirby]

I was laughing. I thought it was pretty good. I like this whole start of the auction scene, you know, we're talking about, are they getting discounts? Mills was saying 4 million per species. And the first one, the ankylosaurus, goes for 10 million. Indonesia. So, I mean, I think they undershot Their estimates things were going to cost because they get to halfway through, and it's. They've already racked up $149 million, and they're like, talking about being halfway through. So that was pretty.

[Jay Skeets]

And then the Indoraptor is basically the halftime show. This is the Christian and Scooby of this. Great question.

[Trey Kirby]

They bring it out to show ye.

[Jay Skeets]

I think so.

[Trey Kirby]

And then we get probably my favorite line reading in the movie. One of the auction guys.

[J.D.]

20 million.

[Jay Skeets]

Few more people, babe. 25 million.

[Trey Kirby]

I love that guy. I love that guy.

[Jay Skeets]

But then Mills.

[Trey Kirby]

Ooh, what a dastardly guy. Well, Dr. Wu can't believe they're selling this.

[Jay Skeets]

The prototype.

[Trey Kirby]

Prototype. He's like, if you want to create an addict, you got to give him a taste.

[Jay Skeets]

Cheese man.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I'm just excited for him to get chomped up.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

He's getting big chomps.

[Jay Skeets]

He will. He will. And like I said, Wheatley gets his hand chomped off by the. The. The indoraptor that was faking sleeping. And then that does take. That Indoraptor takes out Eversol as well.

[J.D.]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And everybody in the elevator, presumably.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah, that's. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

The elevator hits the button with his tail.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Going down.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Eat him up. It was a little. I don't know, I groaned a little bit at that. I mean, tail whipped and hit it malfunction and opened it up. I was glad this guy died.

[J.D.]

Yeah. It is kind of fun that, you know, they're. They think they're safe and then they're not safe. Yeah. And then you get the. The trump hair flapping in the wind. Yeah.

[Tasmalis]

And there's the callback to the code that he had seen put in earlier. So he puts it in and thinks he's safe, and then he gets eaten. So it's pretty fun.

[J.D.]

That's pretty fun.

[Tasmalis]

I do hate how the. The calculator in the auction goes up like it's from 1940. Like, it's so slow to add up these numbers. We're selling dinos here.

[Jay Skeets]

Right.

[Tasmalis]

We know that four plus eight is going to be 12 million. We don't need to see it. Like it's a freaking odometer.

[Jay Skeets]

Dr. Grant over in the corner with his advocates.

[J.D.]

That's right.

[Jay Skeets]

Keeping track.

[Trey Kirby]

I did have to pause it to see what the total that the Indoraptor ended up going for. 43 million.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, is it at 43?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I think that's what it was. That's a Damonta Sabonis contract, correct? About the same. So I'll be calling him the Indoraptor for this season.

[J.D.]

Nice. Nothing in the rules that says you can't use it.

[Jay Skeets]

What does Brandon Ingram make? He's on the Raptors. He probably makes around there, right?

[J.D.]

Close.

[Trey Kirby]

It's gotta be close.

[Jay Skeets]

I'm just saying people call him Indoraptor.

[Tasmalis]

Five Indoraptors.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. And at some point here, Mills does reveal to Owen and Claire that Maisie was cloned from Lockwood's deceased daughter and is why John Hammond, who. Who opposed human cloning, he ended his and Lockwood's partnership. So. And we were getting little, you know, crumbs of this. Right. Throughout the movie, you know, he's all. Lockwood was always holding that scrapbook close to the chest. And we're like, we almost are gonna see these photos. And we do see that one where Maisie actually sees. Well, herself, but it's really her mom.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Who is deceased. And it's the same nanny. And, you know, and you're like, oh, wow. Wow, Maisie's cloned.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

What?

[Jay Skeets]

I did a real. What the hell's going on here? For sure.

[J.D.]

It seems like so much like they're like, oh, wow, a clone. Okay, he cloned a human. Like, over here. Cloning extinct animals. But this guy, he cloned a human.

[Jay Skeets]

Did it. Yeah.

[J.D.]

That was crazy.

[Jay Skeets]

And besides it taking giant shits, I mean, it's pretty perfect.

[J.D.]

It's pretty close to the original.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

We haven't figured out how to turn that cheat off.

[Jay Skeets]

Dr. Woo's freaking out. We can't take off the Take. Can't turn off the Jeep. Yeah, It's a good point, J.D. but yeah. The Indoraptor chasing Owen, Claire and Maisy throughout the mansion. This is a long scene. They are moving through rooms here. Owen turns off the lights. I thought that was a weird decision. They also get turned back on right away. Yeah, but I don't know, I guess, like, I guess I ask you, if you were escaping an Indoraptor, a crazy dinosaur, would you turn. In a mansion, in a house that you don't know, would you turn the lights off?

[Tasmalis]

Not after I was just able to get up the stairs faster than the dino. That part was stupid.

[Jay Skeets]

The little staircase, like, the dinos could.

[Tasmalis]

Have taken one step. But that's a fair question.

[Jay Skeets]

I just like, why'd you do that?

[Tasmalis]

Yeah, maybe.

[J.D.]

I mean, if it's harder to see. If I think that this dinosaur.

[Jay Skeets]

But don't they have, like, superior smell and I assume ears like movement, like we're hearing things and thermal activity. I don't know. It feels like you're giving it all of its advantages on you.

[J.D.]

Right?

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know. Maybe it needs glasses for all we know.

[J.D.]

Maybe.

[Jay Skeets]

Anyway, they get turned on, so it doesn't matter.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, it does give us the great scene when the lights turn back on and the reflection of the Indoraptor is like matched up with Maisie's face. That was cool looking.

[J.D.]

Another foreshadowing that she's. Yes.

[Jay Skeets]

That she's a dinosaur. A clone. Yeah. Or yeah, not a dinosaur, but maybe she is. Who knows? Yeah, that's in the museum. And then eventually it makes its way up into the high glass roof that they're on. But Blue shows up because he's been released by Zia. And Blue is trying to help them and he's attacking this dinosaur, the Indoraptor. They're fighting here and eventually, well, with the help of Claire, no doubt. And this crazy gun that it's sort of activated by. I forgot to bring that up when they were showing it off, the prototype there in that room. It crashes. They both crash through the roof, but the Indoraptor is impaled on that big skull in the museum and Blue's fine because he's right in the middle. Crazy, I mean, crazy scene here.

[Tasmalis]

Yeah, yeah. Being impaled. That was pretty fun. I loved it.

[Jay Skeets]

You like that? I did like that.

[Trey Kirby]

I like a good death for the Indiraptor for sure. I thought the whole like the Raptor sneaking around the museum felt like the Jurassic Park Raptor sneaking around in the kitchen to me. So I like that. I don't totally understand why the Indoraptor decides to go outside so then it could sneak back into Maisie's room.

[J.D.]

Right?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

But I do like when it's sneaking into Maisie's room. Like, I think that looks pretty cool. It does. Like the little reaching out, out claw onto the bed when she's there. And then Blue comes upstairs. I'm glad you said Zia let Blue out because I didn't really understand how Blue was now running through the house, but gets upstairs, the room gets gigantic. Big enough to have a full on dinosaur fight there. Yeah, that was pretty crazy. I was laughing when the claws I'm going to get.

[J.D.]

It was awesome. Yeah, said Nosferatu reference.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, right, right, right, right.

[J.D.]

Yeah, the. The gun really bothered me.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, the gun with Claire bringing it up to the glass roof.

[J.D.]

The gun as a device here. Oh, you Know, like, imagine you're pitching this, right? And I guess he sort of did a good job pitching it in the auction, right? It's like he's got a gun that's also an AK47, and you point it at somebody. Laser. And then you hit a button, and then you unleash a dinosaur on. On it, right? Yeah. If I'm buying a weapon, why not just fire the gun, right? Like, if you're the guy I want to kill, I have an AK47 and there has a laser on it, and all I have to do is pull the trigger and you'd be dead. Or I could Im, like, imprint you and then unleash this. This.

[Jay Skeets]

That's why it's just a prototype. This is what Dr. Wu's saying, wait till we get the blue DNA in it. Then we won't have to do this.

[J.D.]

I just think it's silly. It's. It's just silly. Why did it have to be on a gun? I guess, you know, like, the laser sight is just. We've seen this in every movie. Literally every movie, there's a laser sight. And if there's a laser sight on you, you're basically dead. Right. So what do you need the dinosaur for? You just need a bullet for a lot less than $10 million, right?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tasmalis]

I just think it made it a little bit more fun on the glass just to have the laser and the movement rather than a bullet, I guess. Yeah, I guess that's all.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Because that was her thinking was, well, I'll put it on Owen, and Egoraptor will have to go towards him and chase after him, and that'll be too much weight, and they'll fall through.

[J.D.]

Oh, sure. Yeah, I get that. Or you could shoot the dinosaur with the bullets that are in the gun because it's a gun anyways, right?

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know if it can take these dinosaurs down, man.

[J.D.]

Yeah, but you're gonna imprint your boyfriend.

[Trey Kirby]

It's risky.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

All right.

[Jay Skeets]

He also. Yeah, there's a lot going on in that roof. Like, he slides off. I sort of thought, like, oh, he's dead, but he just slides off to the side.

[Trey Kirby]

It definitely is. At one point, Maisie looks like he's gonna fall, but you see a ledge that's like three feet or like, maybe three inches underneath your feet. But, you know, you gotta end up on the top of the roof if you have a big, tall castle.

[J.D.]

Yeah, that's where the.

[Trey Kirby]

It's where the dragons go.

[J.D.]

It was really cool, man. Like, The.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

Trey, you mentioned the Indoraptor going outside for inexplicable reason. But it looked awesome crawling around on that. Like they just decided they're gonna make a gothic sort of horror movie.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

And it looked great against the. The moon and just, you know. Oh, yeah. And just all the sneaking around and. Yeah, I thought it looked awesome.

[Tasmalis]

It did. It did. I was confused. Why is that dino going outside? As I made a note, and then I just as it. As I saw it and it looks so cool, I hit the erase. I said, wow, I love it. That fun.

[Jay Skeets]

But did it not go outside? Because she went outside.

[J.D.]

She was doing parkour outside.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. I thought he, like, sees her or he's. He's distracted by something outside.

[Trey Kirby]

They go outside, but then she gets back in bed.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, she really. She's like. It's like Webster a little bit with all, like, the secret tunnels or how to get around the house.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Back in the day, like, she knows everybody. Which way to go up there. Yeah.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

And honestly, it should have just stayed in the wall.

[Jay Skeets]

Super safe in the wall in the.

[Trey Kirby]

Any dumpling.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Yeah. It was.

[Trey Kirby]

Never gets attacked. I thought for sure we were gonna see something happening.

[Jay Skeets]

Not even a compy getting in there. Yeah, that's the place to be.

[Trey Kirby]

Just wait it out.

[Jay Skeets]

That's true. Well, when a hydrogen cyanide gas leak threatens the caged dinosaurs, Claire attempts to free them by opening the cage doors. And she. She lets them out of their cages. But then Owen convinces her, do not open the outer door. Don't let them free. Because, like, once you do that, I mean, there's no putting. You're not putting the toothpaste back in the.

[J.D.]

No, there's no going back.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. And he seems to convince her. She's like, yeah, you're probably right. But Maisie says, screw that. Opens it to save them. She has a funny line. I had to. They're alive. Like me. Okay, why are you talking suddenly so strange? But I get it. You're a part of them. They feel like you. So they're off. They're out. And as Mills attempts to escape with the Indominus rex bone. Sexy rexy and some other dinosaur they devour.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Don't know who that other one was.

[Jay Skeets]

Carnotaurus, I think.

[Tasmalis]

Wow.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Bull's gm.

[J.D.]

Wait, he did have two horns, didn't he? Oh, wow. Maybe. Is that the one?

[Jay Skeets]

Two horns like a bull. Carnotaurus is what I notes say here from Wikipedia. And then sexy rexy tramples the bone. The Indominus rex bone. Nice. So let's talk a little bit about the dilemma here, the Claire dilemma of whether or not she should save them. And Owen talking her out of it, but then Maisie doing it.

[Tasmalis]

I just got really confused by Maisie saying they're alive, like me. Are you a robot or not? I mean, you're playing. You're playing the role.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, you're right.

[J.D.]

She's a dinosaur.

[Tasmalis]

She's a human. She's a demon. I don't know what she is. She's a clone. Yeah, that whole thing just. It sent me for a loop. The entire. The entire thing. When we find out Macy is what she is. I don't know what she is. I still don't know. But anyway, should Claire have done it? Is the question. Just let him be free. Yeah, I think Claire should have done it. Just let him. Let him go.

[J.D.]

To feast on humanity.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, I know. I mean, I can't wait to see what happens. I mean, in Dominion.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

They're out there taking over.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. But, J.D. what do you think here. Well, of Mills death as well.

[J.D.]

You know, Mills first. Why would you hide under a car? You know what I mean?

[Jay Skeets]

If we have learned anything after watching now five of these movies. Dinosaurs love cars.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

They're fascinated by jeeps cars. And they're always like, yeah, it's sort of maybe has the shape of a dinosaur to them, the size of a dinosaur to them.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

It's like stepping on a pop can for them.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Don't go under A country don't go under.

[Tasmalis]

Is it supposed to be way more stupid than when Owen did it and had at least a gas line to cut?

[J.D.]

Well, at least he did that. Yeah. Three times and all that.

[Tasmalis]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

But. Yeah, and then the T. Rex stepping on the. The bone. I mean, I'm pretty sure you can still get the DNA from that bone.

[Jay Skeets]

Right?

[J.D.]

If you really wanted to. But, yeah, I mean, it's fine. And you know what, Maisie? Letting the dinosaurs out, this is what they wanted. That was all leading to this. We had to have a reason for them to get unleashed into the world, because that's the next movie. I don't hate it, if I'm being honest. Like, I like that she's a clone. I like the. The sort of, you know, she relates to them. I mean, obviously Claire wanted to let them go. Like, she was getting ready to. She was gonna do it. It. And then she just. Her cooler head prevailed, and then it was all sad. And also, why do you have hydrogen cyanide in your house. Like a massive tank of it. Like, I know, maybe to, you know, as a fail safe. To kill all the dinosaurs. I suppose. But also, how do you sleep at night knowing that it's in your house? You know what I mean? Like, that's a lot of cyanide gas that you have.

[Jay Skeets]

And I guess Franklin just could not fix the H VAC system. Should have called in an expert.

[Trey Kirby]

Castile, come on our unit, please.

[Jay Skeets]

I do.

[Trey Kirby]

Like we get the classic moment. I have to reboot the system. So reboot it.

[Jay Skeets]

I'm trying.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I'd love to say that. I'd love to try and reboot a system.

[J.D.]

Yeah. By just writing code. You have to write code raw into a system to reboot it.

[Trey Kirby]

Gotta put in as many reds as I can before I get a green. I do like that in this one. My complaint for Jurassic World was that Zara got the most brutal death for no reason. The most brutal death. In this one, one goes to Mills.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Who has been a bad guy the entire time and locked a kid in a room. So double bad guy. He deserves it. The other bad guy who gets a bad death is General Wheatley, or whatever his name is. Gets his arm chomped off and then destroyed by the Indoraptor in the cage. So I feel like they learned their lesson.

[Jay Skeets]

That's true. You did. You did take offense to that last movie of how people were dying.

[Trey Kirby]

Exactly. If you're going to be a bad person, you're getting a bad death. If you're going to leave kids alone in a job jeep, you're gonna get eaten while you're taking a dump. It all usually lines up well.

[Jay Skeets]

Owen, Claire, Maisie, Zia and Franklin, they all escape. While Blue and Sexy Rexy and all the other released dinosaurs, they flee the estate grounds. And we do get a little bit. I don't know, is it Harry and The Hendersons? Like, J.D. get out of here. Like, he didn't slap Blue by any means. In fact, I guess he was doing the opposite.

[J.D.]

No, he was.

[Jay Skeets]

Come with.

[J.D.]

Come with us.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. This is reverse Harry and the Henderson.

[J.D.]

And then. Yeah. And then Blue glances over at the cage like, oh, you want me to put me in that? And he's like. They come to an understanding. And then Blue out leaves out into the wilderness. Which is fine, I guess. Blue is basically human now. Or at least like a dog. Like a very, very well trained, loyal dog.

[Trey Kirby]

There's a lot of humanizing blue in this movie.

[J.D.]

Watching, like, blue cries. Exactly.

[Trey Kirby]

Blue cries. They watch kid videos in blue. I remember when raptors were scary.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

So then In a new U.S. senate hearing, Dr. Malcolm declares the beginning of a new Jurassic period where humans and dinosaurs must coexist. And the closing scenes depict the freed dinosaurs roaming the wilderness and outer urban areas. We got the Mosasaurus catching a wave. Far out, dude. Sexy Rexy is having a roar off with a lion. Maybe in the San Diego Zoo, I'm not sure. And blue is, I don't know where blue is, but like some sort of like in the Hollywood Hills or something like that and seems to be calling for something. And then we get a post credit scene where the pteranodons are shown flying on the Las Vegas Strip.

[J.D.]

I missed that. I didn't make it that far.

[Jay Skeets]

You missed it.

[J.D.]

I missed the cutscene.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, well, that's it. That's literally it. They just sort of. Yeah, they land on something on the strip, right?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, they landed at the top of Paris. Like I think show Paris for sure. Overlooking the Bellagio.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

Okay. All right.

[Jay Skeets]

So they're out there and that's it. That's the movie.

[J.D.]

That's it. What a ride. What a ride.

[Jay Skeets]

What a ride. Do you have a favorite scene?

[Tasmalis]

Well, I think if the Trump administration watched this movie, I think Donald Trump would have loved to see Jeff Goldblum at the of the end. Like he would like to see somebody address the Senate that way, you know, because he, he sold me, I mean at the beginning just to see the way in the first time we saw him and then, you know, we've entered a new era. Welcome to Jurassic World. So if there's a favorite movie or favorite part of the movie for Trump, I think it's that right then and there to be able to address Senate the way he wants, he has to.

[Jay Skeets]

Ask Trump now what his favorite scene was.

[J.D.]

Was from Fallen King.

[Tasmalis]

There's no doubt. It's that he loves hiring people that worked on television before Jeff Goldblum could come into the Senate and give people what he wants. That's, that's his favorite scene, I would say. Yeah, the underwater scene is definitely my favorite scene. But as far as the payoff, I like the Wheatley scene where he, he thinks that he's going to grab a tooth.

[Jay Skeets]

Right.

[Tasmalis]

That, that the pliers that he used for the second time and this time that, that's smart. Smart Dino. I got him. So that was, that was the fun part for me. Yeah.

[J.D.]

So are we to assume that the tranquilizer had zero effect?

[Jay Skeets]

I know because he like lights it up with it. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

At least two in the neck.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

What have you done, Dr. Wu?

[Trey Kirby]

Can't believe she didn't hit it with a clever girl after it tricks him and he realizes what's going on.

[J.D.]

Yeah, he's too busy crying.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tasmalis]

I mean, that was a nice scene.

[Trey Kirby]

I did like him crying.

[Tasmalis]

A double tease, right? Like, he flips up his tail the first time.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, yeah. He's like, yeah. You think he catches it? But he's like, hold on. Maybe I'm just imagining. I think they had to, like, tone down that scene. Like, the violence of that scene, too.

[J.D.]

Oh, really?

[Jay Skeets]

To try and keep this. Not to try and keep it PG and not rated R. Like, there's not. If you think about it, there's, like, not a ton of blood.

[Tasmalis]

Really?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. So it's like I'll just take his hand off and then imply that he gets absolutely eaten.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. What's your favorite scene here, TK I.

[Trey Kirby]

Also like the opening scene. I think that's pretty good. I do like Owen getting away from the lava, which is just a silly slapstick bit. I love when Owen unleashes Friar Tuck on the auction and we just see people in the background while he's kind of, like, fighting his way out in the foreground. I just like the use of Friar Tuck. Just seems like a hilarious dumb dino are like, hey, this one headbutts. And we're going to make it funny. So that's good to me. Indoraptor sneaking into the room, like you said, jd Kind of like Nosferatu is what I thought. Indoraptor chasing him down the hall. That's like the Shining. And then at the end, the Indoraptor getting impaled, I thought was pretty sweet. Okay, so there was stuff to like.

[Jay Skeets]

Sure.

[Tasmalis]

Plenty.

[J.D.]

Yeah. Look, there's a. There's a lot of great, fun, exhilarating set pieces. I, too, like the underwater stuff. I like the whole volcano escape. I liked the. The emotion of the Brachiosaurus, you know, getting consumed by the volcano. That was cool. And I didn't mind the haunted house stuff the second time I watched. I watched it, you know, a few months ago, and I thought, this is the worst thing I've ever seen. But once I kind of got into the idea of it, I didn't. I didn't hate it. It was nice to see the dinosaurs in a different location, you know?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

It was interesting to see a dino in a house.

[J.D.]

I mean.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, that's a huge house, though, as.

[Trey Kirby]

The foundation must be like a Hundred stories.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. This thing is massive. So much. Yeah, for sure. All right, what about any other random notes or observations from Fallen Kingdom? I have one. When it comes to Mills.

[J.D.]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

Does this guy need glasses or not?

[J.D.]

Right.

[Jay Skeets]

This guy always has his glasses on and off, on and off. And in fact, they get broken.

[J.D.]

But then Claire.

[Jay Skeets]

But then he's wearing them again, so does he have a backup pair?

[J.D.]

He must.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. So I just, for some reason, started driving me nuts with this guy. He's, like, always putting them on and taking them off and not. It didn't appear to like to read anything. He was just always putting them on and off.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

So that was my one observation.

[Trey Kirby]

I like when Owen and Claire go out for their date and he tells her, your skin looks nice. Oh, yeah, Just a nice compliment. I like when Maisie scares Iris, her caretaker, and she calls her a silly sausage. You silly sausage.

[Jay Skeets]

The British nanny.

[Trey Kirby]

I've been thinking about that for a lot.

[J.D.]

I love it. There's a. As far as the British stuff goes, there's a point where Iris corrects her and she needs to be speaking the Queen's Bath and Bath, obviously, so that she emulates the. The. The. Her mother or the clone. Right. Like, so she's. So she's British because the nanny knows.

[Jay Skeets]

That she's cloned because she obviously raised the.

[J.D.]

The dog. The original. Yeah, yeah. Mother, for lack of better. Better word, I guess. But you can't cast James Cromwell, who. As a, like, stuffy Brit. He can't do an accent. Like, it's the worst accent.

[Trey Kirby]

He was trying to do a John Hammond, it seemed like.

[J.D.]

Yeah. And failing miserably. Like, agree. There's another movie, LA Confidential, where he's trying to do an Irish accent. He couldn't do that. He's a great actor. No disrespect, I love James Conroe, but just hire a stuffy British guy to. To play a British person if you. If that's what you want, because he doesn't sound British. Sorry.

[Jay Skeets]

Do you wish cousin Greg made an appearance?

[J.D.]

Can you imagine talking to Grandpa there.

[Jay Skeets]

Even on the phone for a second? That'd be pretty funny.

[Trey Kirby]

If you went to a Dino auction, what would you bid on?

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, well, you know, I'm Team Brachiosaurus, sparing.

[J.D.]

No.

[Jay Skeets]

No expense. I would love a Brachiosaurus.

[J.D.]

Sure. And I think you could fit one in your yard.

[Trey Kirby]

Trees in the back.

[J.D.]

I mean, it wouldn't be able to move around.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. It wouldn't be a lot of room that. That I like. I. I'm glad you brought up. I hadn't thought about it. That it was probably a baby one that they had in the base basement.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Cuz it does get out of the cage and then it's like breaking through. Like the. You know, the overpass. Like the. What's the word I'm looking for? Like where people can walk above Bridge, I guess above the. That basement.

[J.D.]

Right. Thing.

[Jay Skeets]

So. But. But it's also like. How is this in here?

[J.D.]

Yeah, yeah. It's way.

[Jay Skeets]

It's still huge, but it's a baby. Okay, that sort of checks out. That's my answer. Okay. Brachiosaurus. What have you been on?

[Tasmalis]

Listen, I was having trouble understanding the size of every dinosaur down there. Dino versus Cage versus the people there. I could only understand the little Grunty one, whatever that one's called. The one that was bashing everything.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh yeah, the. The fryer.

[Trey Kirby]

My favorite rappers.

[Jay Skeets]

My new favorite. We got Blowy little Grunty. Grunty. I mean, he's a Grunty, but that's.

[Tasmalis]

Why he's my bud.

[Jay Skeets]

That one is cool.

[Tasmalis]

It's like having a little pit bull kind of thing.

[Trey Kirby]

A little grunty would be helpful. Like for tasks like, you know, rather than calling an arborist to take down your trees, just.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Over here.

[Jay Skeets]

Take down this wall.

[Trey Kirby]

What do you want, J.D. what are you gonna buy?

[J.D.]

Oh, I'm getting a raptor. For sure. It's the most trainable one, obviously. It seems. Just hold up my hand and clicker.

[Tasmalis]

Click.

[Trey Kirby]

Watch me.

[Tasmalis]

Owen got his clicker back.

[Jay Skeets]

Sorry. That one wasn't even for sale, though.

[J.D.]

I know.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

Great point.

[Jay Skeets]

Was one of the species.

[Trey Kirby]

Not that we saw an auction.

[Tasmalis]

They're not for sale.

[Trey Kirby]

They sell a copy. Like just one. I think you'll be fine with one Comp. Yeah, once when you get to like seven or eight, that's a real problem. But one seems manageable.

[Jay Skeets]

I did get excited when we saw though. Was it a little baby stegosaurus? Yeah. At some point in this movie. Like a little curled up beside the mama.

[J.D.]

Oh, they're always so cute.

[Jay Skeets]

They're small. Cute even when we were getting all that footage. Because Maisie sees more footage later of all the baby raptors.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

With Owen. They're cute as hell.

[Trey Kirby]

Totally.

[J.D.]

Very.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[J.D.]

That's why I want one.

[Trey Kirby]

That's what Dr. Wu needs to be working on. Keep them small.

[J.D.]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Ooh, no problem.

[Trey Kirby]

Baby raptor. It's only like a foot tall. Yeah, it'd be a scary. Still not different than a bird.

[Jay Skeets]

Well, you brought up these prices. They were Going for Trey. I want to give a shout out to. To a substack called Unadvanced analytics because they wrote a breakdown of each dinosaur in the third act of this movie.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

When they were being auctioned and they found the best NBA player on the same contract. So the ankylosaurus, you said 10 million. That's about T.J. mcConnell or Derrick Jones Jr. Money.

[Tasmalis]

Great.

[Jay Skeets]

All right.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Nice stegosaurus. 17 million. And I love this comp. That's Lou Dort money. I think Lou Dort plays like a stegosaurus a little bit.

[Trey Kirby]

Wow.

[Jay Skeets]

The Indoraptor. 40 million you're getting into. I guess. We brought up Brandon Ingram, but Zion Williamson is around that. OG Ananobi is around that. A couple others, but great. It's a very fun post that he's been sharing. He's been enjoying the Jurassic power. So shout out to Unadvanced Analytics. I'll try and remember to put it in the show notes if you want to check that out. Okay, let's get to ranking Jurassic World. Fallen Kingdom, Rotten Tomatoes. Not a fan. Fallen Kingdom, 47% from the critics, 48% from the fan. My favorite review that I read, quote, not only do the actors look bored with the dinos who once commanded awe and fear, the creatures, too, seem disinterested.

[J.D.]

Okay, okay.

[Jay Skeets]

But what do you think, Tass, we'll start with you about Fallen Kingdom. And ultimately, where do you slot it in the five movies we've now seen?

[Tasmalis]

Well, it's fairly high for me. It's a five out of ten for me.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Tasmalis]

I feel like it sells it right off the bat that we are in this new world, obviously. And I'm sold. I'm sold off the bat that we ain't on this island no more.

[J.D.]

So.

[Tasmalis]

So listen. Yes. There's highs and there's lows.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tasmalis]

And I'm fine, you know, 50% rate here. I think that's what it.

[Jay Skeets]

What?

[Tasmalis]

It got me at it.

[J.D.]

There's too much.

[Tasmalis]

There's too much to like.

[Jay Skeets]

Did you like more than the second part?

[Tasmalis]

That's a yes. I was definitely more into it. There were times in the second part that I was just kind of uninterested, unfortunately. So. Yes. But I guess that's. That's the nature of the fights. I'm not a fighter, you know, like, so at the end of this movie when everyone. When every dinosaur fighting for himself. Yeah. I lost it a little bit. Same with you, I assume.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, yeah, definitely. Well, I'll get to my score, but Yeah, I like the first part of this movie for sure. And it changes once they get into this giant ass estate. Right. But what do you think, T.K.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, this was kind of the first real dud of the series for me. I like the first half when they're on the island. And I think that should have been the whole movie ending with the destruction of Jurassic World, this park, and then we see them going off the island, setting us up for the third one when dinosaurs could be rampaging. We could start with the haunted house, which I think is cool. Like, there are parts in it that I enjoy about that, but it just seems like two movies that were not completely finished. So let's throw them both together and make it into one movie. I can turn off my brain for the stuff when they're on the island, but then when we get back and we're like, maisie's a clone now. I was like, come on, this is ridiculous. This is when it's completely, completely, completely jumped. The shark for me was when it was revealed that she's a clone. And then they let her make the decision, even though literally everybody who's older than 12 years old has said, let those dinosaurs die. Yeah, every person on Earth except for Maisie. And she's the one who makes the call. And she, guess what was wrong? Guess what?

[Jay Skeets]

She blew it.

[Tasmalis]

But she's not human. But she is. But she's not.

[Jay Skeets]

That's the conundrum. Okay, so where. So what do you have? You have this. The worst of the worst. All five?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, so far, four of ten.

[Jay Skeets]

Four, ten. But worse than.

[Trey Kirby]

They killed off the brachiosaur in the island in this one. And they did it 45 minutes in. Yeah, those are two of my favorite things. Jurassic park and the brachiosaur, specifically. And they just killed them off.

[Jay Skeets]

All right, so you got it low, JD Is this better than some of the ones we've seen? Or. Or not?

[J.D.]

Oh, God. I almost talk myself into giving this at a higher rating. I watched like a six minute video on how they made the. The. The gyrosphere sequence. Like, okay, it was pretty intense. And I have respect. I have respect for this director. I think. I think this. This movie was killed with notes. Do you know what I mean? Like, I think we were in the hands of a very good director because the way the sequences un. Unfold, I was into them. But again, I had to turn my brain off constantly to enjoy what was happening. I'm going to give this a four, which is my lowest rated, I believe, because, yeah, it's just dumb. And I had in my notes as well, Trey, jump the Shark, Maisie, a clone. So I just feel like, you know, it just changes.

[Jay Skeets]

The villains are such like, characterism.

[J.D.]

Totally.

[Jay Skeets]

To both of them.

[Trey Kirby]

I'd say every new character is very one dimensional.

[J.D.]

Yeah. I mean, at this point, like, like, I, I agree with the review that you were just saying. Like, we're. I'm kind of bored of the dinosaurs in terms of like the, this whole idea of like, we're going to make new ones. Big mistake. Again. We're going to make new ones. Big mistake. Oh, I'm going to go to the dinosaurs. Big mistake. You know what I mean? Like, it's just now, now that they are unleashed and I know this isn't what's going to happen, but we should be talking about like Armageddon. It should be Planet of the Apes now, right? It should be. It should be. Okay. Dinosaurs and humans are living together. It's post apocalyptic now. And now we're focusing on the humans who are living with all of these dinosaurs. Like Walking Dead. Right. The, the zombies are only so interesting. Right. What makes that show interesting, at least for the time first, first 11 seasons or whatever, is what's happening between the humans. Right. So I want to see Mad Max style camps. You know, some. This camp over here is trained raptors. And this one, they're brachiosaurus people or something like that. I don't know, like something, something a little more like just lean into it.

[Trey Kirby]

And doctor telling us so much in this movie, they're like, once this gets out, everybody's gonna make their own dinosaurs.

[J.D.]

Exactly, exactly and true. And which is going to be the end of human civilization as we know it. It. And so, okay, let's go there. Let's blow it all up. Let's go fast and furious. Let's get stupid and have fun with it. I know that we're getting stupid, but I don't think we're going to be having fun with it.

[Jay Skeets]

Coming up, Jurassic World. Dominion is next.

[J.D.]

Yeah. Well, what's your rating?

[Jay Skeets]

I'm in the same ballpark. I like. I do think this was more enjoyable than the Lost World, which I was not a fan of. And there's been some blowback to that in the comments. Some people love that movie. They stand for it. But other people agree with us. They think it might be one of the worst. And we've talked about the length of it and all that. And it's like I was bored in it. This like the pieces, the sets, you Were taught the set pieces you guys were talking about, like, they are awesome. Start of the movie. I'm in first. 45 minutes. I'm in. Like, it looks awesome. I'm crying when that brachiosaurus is dying. And then, you know, we get into the mansion and, like, some of these evil characters, like, okay. And then, oh, my God, she's a clone. Okay. I was like, what is going on? Now they're free. Okay. Like, I guess we do have to get stupid because where else there is there to go with this franchise? All that said, I'm giving it a 5 out of 10. So I don't think it's the worst because I have the Lost World below that along with you, but it's not the best. And we'll see what brings. See what we get with Dominion. That film is set four years after the events of Fallen Kingdom, with dinosaurs and other de extinct prehistoric animals now living alongside humans around the world. So, I mean, are you excited for that?

[J.D.]

I am. I surely am.

[Tasmalis]

What amazing do for us here? It's going to be cool.

[Jay Skeets]

You've done Ma.

[Tasmalis]

It's going to be a ruckus out there.

[Jay Skeets]

Is there going to be more about her, too, and. And cloning of humans? Okay.

[J.D.]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

And this is the one. You guys have teased us like, we're bringing everybody back.

[J.D.]

Everybody's back.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. That's exciting.

[Trey Kirby]

You'll be amazed at the things they bring back.

[Jay Skeets]

Really?

[Trey Kirby]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

All right.

[Trey Kirby]

There's some great callbacks in the. In this next one.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. Jurassic World, Dominion, that drops next week. But let's hear your thoughts on Fallen Kingdom, which they don't even say once in this movie.

[J.D.]

Nah.

[Jay Skeets]

How did we not get Goldblum saying that at one point?

[Trey Kirby]

They maybe don't even see Kingdom.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't think so. I saw. I think. What's the site you use to track all your movies? Letterboxd. There's something going around where the only review from this person watching these movies is if they say the title in the movie. Movie. And it's like, yes, they said it. No, they didn't. So for this one, we know they do not say Fallen. Yeah. So go check that out. But we'll be back next week. Let's hear your thoughts. So, like I said in the comments, your thoughts on Fallen Kingdom, where are you a fan? Where you're not. Where do you rank it? And yeah, let's see as we continue to go through all these, how you're putting them in order for a lot of us right now. It is Jurassic Park. 10 out of 10, no notes. We like Jurassic World. Jurassic Park 3, Fallen Kingdom, Lost World. That's my list. And I know it differs a little bit from some of you guys, but same ballpark, I think, of what we're slotting these in, but let's hear if you agree or disagree. All right, we'll be back next week on Jurassic Pals with Jurassic World Dominion. Until then, remember, these creatures don't need our protection. They need our absence. Grace, today.

[J.D.]

It.