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Foreign. Welcome to Jurassic Pals, the no Dunk summer podcast series, where we're watching and reviewing every movie from the Jurassic park franchise. And today, gentlemen, we've reached the end. Yes, mercifully, we're at the seventh and final film, Jurassic World Rebirth. I'm Jay E. Skeets here in the classic factory, and alongside me, he's just a guy who visits zoos. It's Tasmelis.
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Yep, for sure.
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Next to him. You should hear how loud this guy chomps his mints. It's Trey Kirby, keeping it fresh. Hey.
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Oh, hey. Oh.
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And last but not least, he refuses to die in the jungle. It's super producer JD that is actually true.
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Yeah, there's no way I'm dying in the jungle. He would survive. I'll swim out to the middle of the ocean and die there.
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All right, we have made it to the end, all seven movies at least so far, of the Jurassic park franchise. We have Jurassic World Rebirth. If you've been enjoying this, hit the like button. Subscribe to no Dunks. Don't worry. Basketball content is happening. It's coming. We're in the mix now here as we get closer to the start of October and the start of the season. But if you've been enjoying this, let us know and maybe we'll do a whole other series next summer. I don't know what, but we're done with dinosaurs after this one. Okay.
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I don't know. You're probably gonna tell me this somehow made a billion dollars worldwide and we're getting some more dinos.
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Well, for sure we're gonna eventually get more dinos. But anyway, Jurassic World Rebirth came out recently. July 2, 2025. Did anybody see it in the movie theaters? Show of hands. Show a hand. Oh, we got two guys.
C
Yep.
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Trey and J.D. hands up. So you went and experienced this on the big screen?
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I think JD had an earlier viewing than me because I didn't go and see it in a theater until we started recording our Jurassic Pals series. So at that point, we're like a month past when it was released. I was surprised to actually still see it in theaters, but me and one other sad soul were there watching a 12 o' clock showing of Jurassic World Rebirth. I can only hope that he was also taking notes for a podcast, you're saying?
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I guess Tas, at least having a bigger family than I do, had more people possibly watching this movie and is living room. And you did in the movie.
B
My kids ain't watching dinos eat people. Okay, but don't be so hard on yourself. One other sad human. You guys are living it up, man. You got a 12?
D
Yeah, for sure.
C
Yeah.
B
When I did that with my kids for Bad Guys two, it was a very quiet movie theater. I liked it.
C
That's nice. Just us and another place to yourself.
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A couple hours to yourself. Nice air condition you're having. Some popcorn, I assume. Some drinks.
D
You think I should have sat right next to him?
B
A little weird.
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Hey, man, what's your. What's your favorite dinosaur? What's your favorite one from the franchise? Hey, listen, J.D. your experience, quickly.
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Yeah, I saw it the day it came out because it was the first movie that we did for Thumb War Movie podcast I do with my wife.
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Check it out, everybody.
C
Everybody. It was packed. It was.
B
Wow.
C
Yep.
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Anybody dressed up as a dinosaur?
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No dinosaur, no costumes. Not even a bandana jauntily put around the neck. None of that. Yeah, it was just. But it was an afternoon show.
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Let me ask you this. Was there a Jurassic Park? I guess. Jurassic World. Popcorn?
C
Oh, yes, yes, yes. I did not partake. Although I should have because apparently if you keep those. And I'm. I have an A List membership, you can just take that back and refill it. Like unlimited times. Unlimited.
D
Not bad. If you get a cool one.
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Some of them. But what was it shaped as?
C
Oh, a bucket with some Jurassic Park.
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It wasn't a unique one. It wasn't a big dino head.
C
Trying to think. It wasn't like the Dune worm. Yeah, that's what I thought. Fleshlight type thing. As far as I know, there might have been. Fleshlight type thing. Well, that's what the Dune one was.
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Okay, well, maybe they saved a few bucks on doing that. But the budget for this movie. 225 million, I guess. All in box office tray as of recording this. And these are recorded in advance of when they drop. It's made approximately 850 million at the box office.
D
All right.
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So will it eclipse Billy?
C
Probably.
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I don't know. Maybe.
D
It's gotta be getting to the end of its theatrical run.
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I would think so.
D
At the very least.
C
Yeah.
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Before getting new life on streaming, I'm sure.
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So getting close to a billion. The skinny on Rebirth, a new era is born as a covert extraction team makes a dangerous discovery on a hidden island of deadly dinosaurs. Runtime, 2 hours and 3:13 minutes. This one stars. We got a whole new cast. Scarlett Johansson, Mahershala Ali, who I once rode in an elevator with here in Toronto when we stayed at the Lowe's Hotel when we first moved to Atlanta.
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Wow.
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Striking gentleman. Very nice. Too early in his career. I guess so, yeah. It was 2013.
D
Did you get. Did you literally get in on the ground floor with him and then go.
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Up in the aisle? I think so.
D
Much like his career has gone.
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He kept going. I got off. And Jonathan Bailey also stars in Rebirth, directed by British filmmaker Gareth Edwards. Who did Godzilla, did Rogue One, did the creator. I don't know if anybody saw that.
C
I saw that.
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Yeah. Okay. Some successes is my point.
C
Yeah.
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Tried his hands at the dinosaurs.
D
Take a spin on the dinos. Hey, Rogue One was good.
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Yeah, Rogue One was fantastic. Let's talk about this movie. We start in the past. 17 years ago on a forbidden island in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean named Ile Saint Hubert. InGen is operating a dinosaur research laboratory. The site is used for genetic experiments including transgenic and mutated dinosaurs. Freaks. Unfortunately, thanks to a Snickers candy wrapper, one of the creations, a deformed six limbed tyrannosaur dubbed D Rex escapes containment. And it kills an employee. It wreaks havoc as they always forcing the personnel to abandon the island. This is the start of this movie. 17 years prior to actual movie here of Rebirth, where things went wrong again because that rapper got sucked up in the. In the door or something.
D
You gotta clean up.
C
Yeah.
D
Bugged out the door. Unfortunately, the guy isn't quick enough to escape from the smoky red room. Yeah, they keep the D Rex in. You're not yourself when you're hungry.
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I know.
D
First Snickers. And that's literally true of the D Rex. Got a sniff of that nougat and went insane.
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It was little Snickers. It. I mean, it looked cool. It looked like alien.
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I guess they didn't look like a dinosaur. But yeah, it looked cool all right.
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It's not. Dare I say, it's almost not a dinosaur. It's a mutant. It's a monster. Sort of an alien. What do you think, J.D. at the start of this movie.
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Yeah, the Snickers thing was hilarious. I thought.
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Can someone just take a second explain how that like, shut down everything?
C
Well, I mean, I can try.
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Okay, go ahead.
C
Snickers. Rapper gets sucked into the door. Door gets jammed. Whole system needs to reboot all the doors open. Drex is let out and. Yeah, that's it.
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Okay.
C
Yeah, that's okay.
B
I don't know if the door jammed. Nobody knows.
C
It doesn't close.
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It doesn't close.
B
It doesn't close.
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And then it just goes.
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But it's not the door not closing. Really. Isn't the issue. Like you said, it like malfunctions the whole operating system which shorts out after.
D
The thing blows into the hole.
C
We zoom into the computer screens and it's like, that's not compute. I wanted him to pop up so badly.
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And then it just.404 message, error message.
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And in order to start this again, you're going to have to sit down and write out all the code to get it back up. But yeah, there's no. It's so weird too. Like, it's so brightly lit. And then emergency, all the. Turn off all the lights and then just put red lights on. You know what I mean? Like, it's just so stupid.
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It should be the opposite.
C
Yeah, exactly.
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Let's keep it moody in here while we're working. And then when it's an emergency, all lights on. Yeah, yeah.
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How much did Snickers get paid for just a wrapper? Being seen three, four times over and over and over again as it fell down from the guy's mouth to the floor and get sucks into the vent of the door?
C
It's a great question.
B
Yeah.
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Especially when it looked like American Beauty with that. That Snickers wrapper, like floating around like it was the paper bag.
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They showed it over and over and over again.
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Gareth Edwards said it was the beautiful thing. Most beautiful thing he's ever shot. The rapper flying through the air. That's what the American Beauty guy says.
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I would have believed it.
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It is amazing though, on one of our recent Jurassic pals. I can't tell you which one, but it must have been back to the H. Macy days where we were talking about the vending machine.
C
Yeah.
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And you know, Billy smashing through it, getting some food. And then William H. Macy's character, Paul Kirby.
C
Paul Kirby.
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You know, we made fun of him like, come on, what are you doing? He wouldn't even try to go through it, or at least take some food. But we were talking about Snickers being the go to thing we would probably take from the vending machine. It all ties together.
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Guess not. Yeah, it's very dangerous to have it near the dinosaurs. I guess they're just working them to the bone. Don't have time for a lunch break down at the lab. All they can do is snack on his Snickers, throw it in the garbage. Where were you at? Claire Dearing. She saved Lowry's cup.
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That's right.
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With the thing. Right. Put the wastebasket under his cup. He knocks it over. Where were you, Claire?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Claire would have like dove and caught It.
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Yeah, but this is what, 2008? She's probably still in.
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Oh, yeah.
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Dinosaur de extincting school or whatever her major was.
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Gee, yeah.
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Business administration.
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Yeah. Where does this even put us in the timeline of the Jurassic park franchise? We're gonna do our head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't worry about it.
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Well, it was great to see Ila St. Hubert right off the bat. It feels so cultured seeing it in two different languages. And Isla earlier on in this series, so that felt cool. Did you go with Mahasha Ali to a Saint Hubert when you were in Canada?
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No, I was here.
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We said Toronto.
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Oh, my bad.
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You said here in Toronto.
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I bet Atlanta.
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Well, St. Hubert never went there.
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Yeah, this big Canadian there, did you? It's more of a Quebec thing.
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Yeah, it's a big Quebec.
C
I'm a swish, swish LA man all the way.
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Same here. Yeah, but people love St. Hubert.
C
Oh, I know chicken.
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It's very good.
D
I haven't even heard of this.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. Very popular. French.
D
This is like finding out there's a second island that they're doing research. There's a second Canadian chicken tree.
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We call it Saint B in Canada.
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You shouldn't. Shouldn't have eaten the Snickers. You should have just gone to the Saint Hubert on the island. You would have loved it.
C
You would.
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Ate.
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Well, all right. So that's the opening of this movie. And then we obviously go to present day. In terms of the movie, I don't know what year it is. Some say it's 2025. Other sites tell me it's in the future somehow. 2027, who really cares? But most of Earth's climate has become inhospitable to sustain the de. Extinct dinosaurs. Except for Bronto Billy.
D
Bronto Billy.
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Bronto Billy. He's causing traffic jams in Manhattan.
D
Ironic.
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He got out, I guess, of his pen. Is that what they said? And just wandering around, still somehow alive. Everybody seems like, ah, jam it. He's out again, you know. Yeah.
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Great excuse to give to your boss.
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Showing up late for work.
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Yeah, Brontosaurus passed out on the.
C
On the road.
D
I was driving.
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Whatever.
D
No, seriously, check the news.
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Yeah. And this is where we meet Martin Krebs. I don't know why I added such an accent to it, but Martin Krebs, he's an executive at a pharmaceutical company called Parkergenics. And he recruits Zora Bennett, an ex military covert operative. This is Zora is played by Scarlett Johansson to collaborate with paleontologists. Paleontologist Dr. Henry Loomis. On a top secret mission. And their goal is going to retrieve biomaterial samples from the three largest remaining prehistoric specimens, which are going to hold the key to a new heart disease treatment. So Zora shows up in his car, in Martin's car. And this is where the Bronto Billy part sort of comes in. And then we make our way to the museum. And this is where we meet the paleontologist Dr. Henry Loomis here. And we sort of get at what's going on here. Trey, the mission of this said movie.
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Yeah, and look, I, I wasn't able to watch this one quite the same way that I've watched the previous six movies. Like I would watch it once, take my notes and then watch through my favorite scenes to see what's going on and see what my notes actually mean. So written in these notes, I have the line, everyone says you're a scumbag. I don't know who said that, but I know they were saying about Dr. Or about Martin Krebs because this guy seems sketchy right from the get go here. I also wrote down the way Krebs pitches to Zora how much money they're going to pay her. And he says 10 with six zeros, not including the 10.
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Yeah, she clarified that part.
D
Yeah, yeah, not including the 10. So it's 10 million rather than 1 million. And I was like instantly flashing back to Dr. Ian Malcolm describing which button.
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To push third from the top or.
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Fourth from the bottom. Like, we gotta find most complicated way possible to say any sort of easy information.
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Poor Dr. Grant with his advocates trying to figure out how much she's getting paid.
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In defense of the Krebs, he just said 10 with six zeros. And she said, yeah. Does that include the one in the 10?
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Yes.
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That's a fair question. That's a fair question. I agree.
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Look, you got to clarify at that point it's a big time difference in money, but simply say $10 million, we will pay you $10 million.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Because I even me, like, I'm, I'm like six zeros, I still have to do it.
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I don't know.
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Like, I'm like, is that only a thousand?
C
Is that six figures or is it seven figures? Because I guess including the one or the ten, it's very confusing.
D
I like it. I think maybe they should have continued going with this. And she's like, where's the decimal.00 at the end? Or no.
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Oh, right, right, right. How many zeros are we techn. And what about JD your thoughts on Dr. Henry Loomis and the museum and obviously roping him into the said mission.
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I mean, sure, yeah, like, Loomis is. He's the nerd character. The sexiest nerd of all time. I mentioned this on the Thumb War podcast, but it's just like, why are these nerds so goddamn good looking? You know what I mean?
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He's so good looking. Also, this guy's the most adventurous guy of all time.
C
He takes 10 seconds to decide.
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Yeah.
C
Like the whole. Let me think about this for a second. Munch, munch, crunch, crunch, munch, munch. All right, let's do it. Let's go. Let's go for it.
D
There's a lot of eating in this movie.
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Did you think there was some sexual chemistry between Zora and Dr. Loomis?
C
No, but I do think they were trying to conjure some up.
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Yeah.
C
But. Nah. Yeah, nah, it wasn't. Wasn't. It wasn't flying for me. I also, I don't understand why the Earth has lost interest in dinosaur. You know what I mean? Like, there's one right outside. Five years ago, there was a lineup around the block here, he says, and we only sold 12 tickets last year. We have no dinosaurs now. And it's hard to get into museums. Like, have you been to Fern bank on a Tuesday afternoon?
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Why would.
C
Why would suddenly people lose interest in dinosaurs? It's crazy to me.
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I mean, they're always comparing it to, like, going to an amusement park where, like, once you've done the rides and experienced it, like, you need. You're like, all right, well, what's the point now? So you gotta come back for a new ride or.
C
Sorry. When I was a kid, I went to amusement parks three times a summer. Every summer till I was probably 35.
A
But they were adding rides and. Okay, but I would have went.
C
I would have went, oh, I know. You ride the flyer every year at the. At the exhibition, right? Like the cne.
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Oh, yeah.
C
You got to.
B
Sure.
C
And it's fun every time. You never lose interest.
B
Yeah, but you weren't getting eaten by a dinosaur.
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Yeah.
D
This is the only amusement park where the rides eat you.
C
True. Fair enough. Fair enough.
D
But I'm with you, J.D. people go to zoos all the time.
C
Right? Exactly.
D
Families repeat at the zoo monthly.
C
Yeah.
D
They do add new dinos. They don't add new dinosaurs. That's a Jurassic Park 8. But they do except, you know, shout out to the Atlanta Zoo. We got a cool new elephant enclosure.
A
Okay, cool. Really?
C
Yeah. What's different about the elephant? It's a different elephant. That's it.
D
Well, this one had two trunks, actually.
C
Oh. Oh.
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They were calling it the Delphin, the d elephant version 33.1.
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See, I'd be going. You have to admit, I would be going if this was real.
D
Look, I believe that adults maybe lose interest.
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Yeah, yeah.
D
But not kids. Yeah, and they're dragging their kids. Yeah, their kids are dragging them there.
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Little Trey and Tass, you've been to the zoo probably more recently than me. Me. It's awesome. It's great. And you're annoyed. Why aren't the giraffes are. Aren't here. So with apologies to Lee Ellis, you know, if the giraffes aren't there, which sometimes they're not, they rent them out.
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They rent out the giraffes?
C
Yeah.
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To where? And what?
C
Parties and stuff?
B
Those giraffes?
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Every weekend? No, you know, Mahersha Ali had a. Has a party and he. He's like, you know what? I want giraffes at my party.
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I did not know you could do that.
D
I thought it was similar to, like those companies that lease out the goats to eat your lawn. They'll lease out a giraffe to trim your trees. Oh, that's pretty nice.
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Practical.
C
That'd be cool. Anyways, I'm just saying animals are cool, dinosaurs are cool. This whole thing of, oh, they're waning in interest. There's also no purpose for saying that in this particular movie because it's not like they're trying to open a park. It's not like they're trying to genetically engineer something new. They're just going to get some shit from the island in a dangerous place. It's like.
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But Zora at one point says to Loomis, I forget when in the movie, though, is like the whole. Well, maybe when it was just her trying to get him there. Like, your job, your job's gonna be done, man. Like, nobody cares anymore. And were they taking things down in the museum? They were closing it up.
C
They were closing it up.
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Yeah, yeah.
D
They had the banner from Jurassic Park 1. Rolling it up, put it into the archives.
C
Gotta. Gotta close up shop here. It's like, well, I guess you're unemployed, so you might as well come with us. Yeah, I guess.
B
A lot of money.
A
Yeah. You were about to say something about zoos. I thought you were gonna jump in there.
B
They're just overrated. I'm just surprised that any. That the giraffe would just jump on a truck and go, I mean, that thing is Huge. Obviously they transport that.
D
Send in a team to get them.
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I don't know if this is.
C
I don't know. I picked the wrong animal. I've definitely been there. And, like, there's gorillas.
B
Oh, absolutely. That's why.
C
Where are the gorillas?
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They're sleeping inside.
C
No, it's. Sometimes they'll be like. Sometimes they'll be like. We rented them out for a movie shoot or whatever.
B
Oh, I don't know. You're making this. You're making the Atlanta Zoo sound awesome. And a lot of the time you go there, no gorillas, no giraffes, elephants or something.
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You've just named like, three of the best that you want to see at.
D
The gorillas in Atlanta are awesome.
A
They're great.
D
But unfortunately we had to ship out our pants. Pandas not too long ago.
C
They were on loan anyway. Weren't they all pandas were on loan? Oh, I suppose.
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah, of course.
D
I'm just the guy that visits.
A
Yeah, I trust you.
B
The Fern bank just had a reptile day. We almost went to. I wonder if there's any dinos.
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Listener and viewer, explain the Fern Bank Museum.
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That's the Natural History Museum here in Atlanta. They got a big partial fossilized brontosaurus.
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Yeah, yeah.
C
It's awesome.
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I've seen it.
C
It's great. Anyway, museums, they're awesome.
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So here's the mission. As I said, they got to go get samples from the three largest remaining prehistoric specimens. And the exact three are the aquatic Mosasaurus, which we've seen before.
D
Love it.
C
Yeah.
A
The terrestrial Titanosaurus, which is sort of just like, I guess, a souped up Brachiosaurus, from what I could tell, looked huge.
C
Yeah.
A
Giant. And then the avian Quetzalcoatlas.
B
Oh, not bad.
C
Nailed it.
A
That was better than I did the first time. Yeah. This is the. Obviously the flying one. This is our pterodactyl Pterosaur or whatever, the souped up one. So these are the three that they gotta go get the samples from. That's the mission. All right.
D
Because the big ones live for a long time and they want their DNA, basically. Right? They're like. They live for 100 years. So we're gonna steal some DNA and put it in medicine.
C
Right? They have the biggest hearts, guys. Yeah, that's what they are, biggest hearts.
A
They care the most. And we are trying to cure a new heart disease or make a new heart disease treatment. Right?
C
That's exactly.
A
So we have to get the biggest hearts from the biggest dinos across the three specimens of Air, land and air, land and sea.
B
I did like that.
A
When you really stop and think about that, that's really stupid.
C
It really sounds like a magical mystery. Jo me.
B
Yeah. But I did like the specification. This is what you're gonna see in the movie.
C
Yeah. Yeah, totally.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
C
Hey, we have three McGuffins in this movie.
A
So we now jump to a bar in Suriname. Is that how you say it? Yeah, it's a real place. It's. It's in South America.
C
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't catch the name of the town there.
A
Yeah, well, that's. They're in a bar there.
B
Came up on the.
A
On the screen.
B
On the icon. Yeah.
C
Yeah.
A
Zora recruiting her longtime friend, Duncan Kincaid. This is my good friend from the elevator. And they're going to lead this expedition. He's going to lead it. He's got the boat. He's got a boat driver, Leclaire. He's got a mercenary, Nina, who's sort of just help. She's a helper. And a guy, sort of head of security, I guess. Bobby Atwater. That guy's name.
B
Didn't even know his name at some point.
A
Wait, what's your name? We've watched so many of these. Obviously I'm sure you can tell by our tone. And we're over it. But like anytime now, we meet these like helpers on a boat or a mission. Like just which order are you guys going to die? That's all I'm wondering. Cuz you're dead. You're dead. You're dead.
C
In the credits, it should just read food one, food two, food three, LeClaire.
A
Nina, Bobby, come on. And there's some silliness here, I guess this scene of I guess getting more money.
D
Yeah, they kind of scam Loomis.
A
Yeah, right.
D
That's it.
C
So half heartedly, like, it's just like, let's try it. Why not?
D
I mean, what's he gonna do at that point? They're literally already in Suriname. He's like, nah, we're flying back.
A
Yeah. And then. And I guess the joke is Duncan and Zora do it. And then is it Bobby shows up and he's like. He thinks he's running the same game. And she's like, yeah, we already did it. We already got it.
C
We already ran this scam right in front of him too. It's just like they don't even care.
B
They stupid.
A
We also learn here that Zora lost Booker in a car bomb and that she missed her own mom's funeral.
C
Yeah, that's rough stuff.
A
That's rough stuff. But it's, like, sort of odd. Not a lot of it comes up again. Really?
D
Booker died in a car. Is that right?
A
I don't even know who Booker is.
C
Her partner. She mentions it, but not sad about it.
A
Like work partners.
D
Yeah, it is a work partner.
C
Well, yeah, Great question. I thought it was a work partner. Yeah, it was a Hawkeye situation. Hawkeye situation.
B
One of the latest missions that he.
C
That she goes on the weirdest part about that. Well, it's not weird, but it's just sort of like Maher says, well, at least it was quick. Yeah, not really, actually.
A
Not really.
C
What was one of those slow car bombs? Oh, they creep up on you.
A
Poker.
D
Died in a car, Bob. That's just funny, man. I want to remember that Booker died at carbon for this NBA season. Like it's gonna come up.
A
Also.
C
Also, it's a. Oh, yeah, we were doing a quick training mission in Yemen. What? You were doing a training mission in Yemen?
B
You don't know what Zora does, man.
C
She does some things. Yes, I do. She's a covert security operator.
B
I thought Martin Krebs was gonna come in there and say, oh, yeah, I saw that on Homeland. Or a guy got bombed. That's what happens in Homeland.
C
Sure.
A
I bring this up is like, what's the point of all this? With her character? Yeah. Like, are we just close to a little sympathetic to her? I mean, the mom female part, like, sort of get.
C
Died of heart disease as well. That's thrown in there.
A
Yeah. So I guess slipped in. I really need to.
D
That was even worse.
B
Kinkade's reaction to that.
C
He said, that is the worst thing.
B
I've ever heard anyone do you miss. Missed her funeral.
C
That was so brutal.
B
Just a. Just a quick line like that. That's the worst thing I've ever heard.
C
A human.
A
Mr.
B
Mother's freaking funeral.
C
She quickly changes the subject. What about your dead head, man?
D
What about that?
C
You guys still together?
A
Oh, God.
C
It's the ultimate deflection.
D
That's a crazy scene, but they're like, hey, we got. We got two minutes to talk. Fill me in on the worst moments of your life as fast as you possibly can.
A
Thrown in there. So it's just like. I guess it's like they're doing it for money, because anyone would do it for 10 million, but they're not really doing it for money. They have all this bag. I don't know. I'm so confused.
C
There's. It's. It's I don't know. It felt like a tacked on reshoot, to be honest. Like, because, you know, Scarlett Johansson is like, I'm out. I'm not interested. Well, there's a lot of zeros. And she just turns around and she's like, okay, I'm in. It's all about money for her. So what's the problem? Like, so it tested badly and there's like, well, we need her to have more of a reason, and we need Mahershala to actually need to save a kid later on in the movie. So maybe he should have a dead kid. Nothing else to live for. Do you know what I mean? That's what it felt like to me. But.
B
Right, right.
A
What did you think of Scarlett Johansson in this lead role, leading the expedition, being the. I don't know, something about it didn't work for me.
C
Me?
A
Yeah, her. Her. Like, she's not a good, like, yeller.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah. I would say then the next part where she convinces Loomis that she should be the one shooting the mamasaurus is not convincing at all.
A
No. Also, when she misses with the first dart.
D
Yeah, she does. She has airball.
B
It ain't really cutthroat. When she says the Loomis. Nah, nah. I'm the shooter.
A
Yeah.
B
She doesn't do it.
A
That Unbelievable badass.
B
Yeah.
A
Her and her character, obviously, which is weird.
C
Maybe it was because they wanted to get her away from Black Widow, but she's playing Black Widow basically. Right. She is sort of a mercenary who, you know, kind of a badass, great.
A
Fighter, sort of works better in that world to me than this did.
C
But, yeah.
D
What your thoughts, TK I was a little bought in because of the Black Widow factor. You're like, okay, I've seen you be a secret agent of some sort, so I can buy you being a mercenary in general. But I just thought the way that they handled both Scarlet and Mahershala Ali is pretty weird. Like, they set Duncan Kincaid up as, like, a super badass. This guy will go anywhere. He's the only guy who will take you close to the island. And then they get there and he does literally nothing. Yeah, he does nothing for an hour. They're like, we got the toughest looking dude. We made him into a badass, and he does nothing. And then we got the most beautiful woman on Earth, and guess what? She's actually the badass. I was like, huh. A little bit of a curveball both ways, but I think it basically comes down to. To Scarlett Johansson has kids that wanted to see her in a Jurassic park movie. So she's like, I'm gonna go in a Jurassic park movie and be awesome.
C
Apparently, she really, really wanted. She's always wanted to be in a. In a Jurassic park movie.
A
So she's in it now. She is in it. Okay. Meanwhile, because we absolutely have to have children in this movie. Reuben Delgado, no relation to Carlos. All the Jays fans out there. Maybe it is. I don't know. He's sailing around, are sailing nearby with his daughters, Bella, Teresa, and Teresa's obnoxious boyfriend, Xavier. And the family is gonna get shipwrecked here by the Mosasaurus. And they're gonna use a radio to call for help. And the expedition team, our team now out there on their boat, they're reluctantly going to come to the rescue. I mean, they obviously have a bit of a debate in whether they're going to. But, yeah, we've got the family. They're sailing like, boo.
C
That's it.
A
Yeah.
C
The what? Like, you know. Okay, we have a new top leaderboard of the worst parents in the franchise. Sorry, my guy. Reuben, you're number one. You're number one.
A
Even Duncan is upset when. Very upset when they eventually get them and save them. What are you doing?
D
What are you doing?
C
They tell us right off the bat in their. The texts, the saying. But it is strictly forbidden to travel near the equator. And this guy's going from Barbados to Cape Town. Oh, we've done it before.
B
They've done it before.
A
Barbados to Cape Town. Him's one adult. Really?
C
Yeah.
A
And then three kids. Really. I know they're older than the couple, but, man, that is a choice.
C
That's the. That's an awful, awful choice. I mean, you know, we can highlight as we go, but the little list is very long for Reuben, like, you know, deciding to jump off the boat with his young daughter. Deciding to let his daughter keep the. A dinosaur, put it in her backpack. All that stuff. It's just. Just terrible. Terrible stuff. But this family, I mean, it would have been great if they had just died right in this opening scene. All of them. I'm sorry to say that. I'm sorry to say that. Wow. Wow. But.
B
But he's. He's done it before. He's sailed to Cape Town before, so he can do it again. Although. Although King can. King K's. That's his name, right? King sounds so weird coming off the lips. King K, he says. I mean, I've got a dead child. That I wouldn't even do this to my child.
C
He doesn't say that, but yeah, that was. That's implied.
B
It's implied.
A
Yeah.
B
Get on the boat, go to Cape Town.
C
Yeah. I mean, it looked fun. Yes. You know, the adventure of it. Even with the stupid boyfriend there, like, you know, bonding with your kids. But, you know, just take it to Europe, do a cross Atlantic. Like, don't go across the equator. Why would you do that? It's stupid.
A
Right? Isn't that sort of alluded to? Like, this she's going to college, and this is sort of the last sort of family get together. But your boyfriend has to come.
D
Yeah, that's what we always do. We do every spring break we go. And Reuben also gets, like, really upset when and Kincaid calls him out for even pulling off these trips. He's like, 50,000 boats do it.
C
Yeah.
D
They're the only boat around. There's 50,000 boats somewhere out there.
C
Yeah.
D
Like what. What a curveball scene. You see, it's comes out of nowhere that there's a whole nother crew of people going to be following. And they're pulling off a crazy move. And it starts with a Vampire Weekend song.
B
What.
D
What is going on here? But when what comes and attacks him? It's like the spinosaurus at first, and then the Mosasaurus.
A
Mosasaurus first? Yeah. Mosasaurus comes first.
D
Yeah.
A
And then the spinosaurus. Yeah.
D
I thought the scene was good. Once the attack starts happening and, like, Xavier gets stuck underneath inside of, like, the cabin or whatever, it's filling up with water. They got to figure out how to open it. I like the suspense of that. Once it all starts playing out.
C
Right.
D
But getting into it was pretty strange.
C
Yeah, yeah. The whole.
A
Boy. Put a shirt on, man.
C
Yeah, put a shirt on. Take your turn on the wheel. Like, I'm bringing you on a trip of a lifetime here, bro. Like, you got to do some work on this. I would be throwing him overboard, you know what I mean?
B
Like, but he can. He can go shirtless on the boat.
C
Okay, fine.
B
I mean, we're on a boat, but.
A
He should have taken over the wheel.
C
You got to do your part on the boat. It's a working boat. You got to do your. You got to do it.
B
Yeah, but he needed another hour of sleep. He just slept for 12 hours.
C
Yeah. Yeah.
D
It was confusing, my son. Sleep, sleep.
A
So, okay, so. But overall, yeah, the scene is exciting. Like I said, like, when it gets flipped and they get on top and. And then obviously the expedition team does come and save them. And then they soon encounter the Mosasaurus. And they do have to obviously get the sample from it. And this is where. Yeah. Zora says, you give me the dart gun. I got this. Strap me in. She's at the front of the boat.
C
Oh, yeah.
A
You know, there's some hijinks here, but they do get the first sample. So one down. I mean, I gotta say, I did like this cool, you know, needle parachute, whatever that was. Design good job by Loomis here or.
B
Yeah.
A
Who came up with this? I think Genix or Loomis. I don't know.
C
Oh, great question. I thought it was Loomis, but now that you mentioned it.
A
Yeah.
B
Because Loomis, he sold it like it was his.
C
Yeah.
A
Because I feel somebody gives him credit for it once. But anyway, it is cool. Yeah. It has to go in and then it extracts, obviously, the blood sample and then it, like, parachutes in the sky. Now, does it always land perfectly in their hands, basically, or right near them? Yeah, yeah, it does.
C
By design.
B
This was a little painful to watch. The difficulty that Zora had with the gun after missing the first one, she literally just couldn't. Couldn't get it loaded. So she has to get Loomis to go get it after. There's the scene earlier where she's.
C
That.
B
Just think about it. Loomis, as she was trying to sell him. Just think about it. You're on the end of the boat. The boat starts rocking at a 10 to 20 degree difference. You get sprayed in the face. Here comes the mama source. I keep calling it the mama source right in front of your face. What are you gonna do? Like, she. She tried to sell it then. And then she couldn't even freaking whole.
A
Yeah, because she was saying, you're not gonna be able to do it, you geek. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she was struggling.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just didn't sell me. Just didn't sell me.
A
Okay.
D
I think she had those carabiners attached.
A
Yeah, imagine.
C
So.
A
Yeah. They get the sample like I said. But the creature does return. The Mosasaurus returns with a group of spinosaurus. They're in the water. These are the ones with the fins here, like, whatever the spines. And they attack the ship and they kill Bobby. So Bobby first to go of the three helpers on the boat.
B
Bye, Bobby.
D
Oh, yeah.
C
Bobby.
A
Yeah, Bobby.
D
Security, Bobby.
A
Security, Bobby.
D
Yeah, Bobby. The buoy.
A
And Bobby, you know, like, he likes his guns and, you know, he wanted to get to shooting these things, but they get him first.
C
Even though it's a sin to kill a dinosaur, according to Loomis, Teresa, I.
A
Mean, there's a lot going on. They're trying to survive. Now they're getting attacked. And this is like Duncan and LeClaire. I guess they're sort of like both driving the boat or whatever. Maybe Nina's helping too. I can't remember. But like, they're like, we gotta get into the shallow waters, like, get away from these things. Cause there's all these creatures chasing them in the water. Theresa goes down to attempt to use the radio to call for help. But Martin, he panics, shoves her away because he's trying to protect this mission secrecy. Because this is sort of under the radar. You're not supposed to leave, you know, you're not legally allowed to do this. And she like goes falling out sort of the side of the door there. And she's hanging on. She falls overboard. He refuses to help her. I mean, it's like, like he thinks about it like, nope, see you later.
D
Makes like an angry face at it. I'm g. Let you fall.
A
But Xavier jumps overboard to rescue his girlfriend. And he's followed by Reuben and Bella. And they separate from the expedition team. But this Martin decision here, I mean, you're like, you already knew he was a bad guy, but this just cements it. Like, he's willing to kill this young woman.
D
That's exactly right. Letting her go. We get a little hero moment. Moment for Xavier, which is good. And we're getting set up for Martin. Getting ready to get chomped up eventually in this movie, which pays off, of course. My favorite part of this whole attack scene is like, as Zora's getting out there on the little pedestal, getting ready to pull her moves, the mosasaur just looks like it's doing tricks. Yeah, Just like jumping up and doing spins and flips. I'm like, oh, cool, man.
A
Why are we shooting this thing?
D
Yeah, it's an awesome whale watching tour.
C
Awesome. Yeah, for sure.
B
I was a little confused when Teresa and kbs, they kind of hit each other. He. He falls to the floor of the boat and he seems like he's. He's got stars all of a sudden. Like he can't see. He just fell on his butt.
A
Nothing happened.
B
He's just like, down.
A
You're right.
B
It was a little confusing. Is he all there? It just seemed like.
A
It seemed like, wow. In defense of Martin, I didn't know what was going on.
B
Made contact and he's just. He's like looking at the stars. Like, I don't know what's going on.
A
It's almost like they. They tried to like, mute it a little bit. That he's, like, a ruthless, like, killer, I guess, almost. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I could have helped her. Obviously made the decision. I didn't want to, but maybe I was a little out of it for interpretation.
B
I guess they left it out there. So. So you don't know whether or not he's dying later.
C
I guess they make such a big deal of it, though. Like, it would have been way better if he had just, like, kicked her off.
A
Yeah.
C
You know what I mean? Like, you're gonna. If you're gonna have him twirling his mustache, you might as well go for it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
A
Grab her and.
C
Yeah, I got you. See ya.
A
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
C
And then you. Then you have an actual accusation, because if we're in a court of law, which we're not. But. But whatever. As Tass is saying, like, he just basically. Basically, he. He falls back. He's kind of stunned. You could see how somebody could be frozen with terror. Right. Like, I don't want to go out there. The. The Mozzie might get me. Right. Like, you know, like, you panic and you freeze. Right. That's. That's not a crazy defense. It's a defensible position. It's not a great position, but, like. But it's such a. Like, that guy tried to kill me. It's like, okay, well, why don't you just make him try to kill this character? And then. Then the audience is even that much more like, yeah, he tried to kill.
A
Totally. Totally. It's just.
C
It's just stupid.
A
Yeah. But again, I think for the family aspect of this movie, I guess. I know it's a little scary, but they toned it down. I really do. Otherwise, why isn't he kicking her off for at least letting go over, pushing her or throwing her over or whatever. It's just like. Yeah, that's a little too hardcore. I don't know.
C
He's the villain. Like, I know.
B
We can let the. The child see Bobby hanging off the door. That's cool. Like, that's scary enough.
A
Oh, yeah, Right, right.
B
That. That was Isabella, I think. Or was it? Yeah. So there was a little terror in the child there, but absolutely.
C
Sure.
A
She got good scared face, that kid.
C
Yeah.
A
Good child actor, I thought. Yeah. Doesn't have to do a whole lot in this movie, but. Yeah. You know, you got to have kids on the island.
C
Got to.
A
And, you know, they're not dying.
D
No, they are the safest. She's carrying a Dinosaur around with her the whole time.
C
Time.
D
Once they get to the island and she's safe.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
I mean by now they should have figured out that's how you survive on the island. Just carry around a child at all times.
C
Get on my shoulders, kid.
A
Yeah.
D
New plan. Adults, they're bored with dinosaurs. Jurassic park only kids.
A
Yeah.
D
They never get eaten. They never get attacked. And they're always excited.
A
Y.
C
That's right.
A
So the Mosasaur, Mosasaurus, Mosasaurus, Mamasaurus, Mamo, Mosi, Mozzie. I'm so tired of saying this dinosaur's name or something.
C
We're almost done with him.
A
I know.
C
We're almost done.
A
Forces Duncan's ship aground. And they are like when they look like they're going ashore. And again the Delgados are. They're overboard. So they have been removed here from this boat. I think It's Zora and Dr. Loomis are like, get all the stuff we need because we need all these samples still. And they're like. They're basically packing it up.
C
Packing it up. Putting life jackets on it so it'll float. They push it off the boat. Boat. And then the boat goes. The entire boat goes onto the island like it was all for nothing. All for nothing.
A
There should have been a scene. Where are you parking this? Duncan?
C
If you go back and watch it as well, it's like, haha. It's. It's. Duncan is like. He's like, yes. We're in the shallow water and I got away. I got away. But then he's like, oh no, the shore is coming.
A
He's at the controls of the boat.
C
Slow it down. Like just turn it off. Yeah.
B
Or turn it onto the sand instead of.
C
Exactly like. What do you mean?
B
Really weird.
C
This hardcore like mercenaries kid just loses his mind.
A
So yeah, the equipment, I guess it does start to wash ashore. And Nina is like, hey, I need some help here with the big one. It was a huge looking thing. And poor Nina, she's next. And she gets killed on shore by a spinosaurus that she doesn't see. No one else really seemed to see until the last second. But they can come on water, obviously. And she gets chopped.
C
This movie was directed by Burt Wonderstone because there's a lot of sleight of hand. You know, there's. Now you see the dinosaur and now.
A
You'Re back again when T. Rex is sleeping and the raft goes up and he's gone.
C
It's an illusion.
B
Burr Wonderstone did again.
D
I like that the Spinosaur doesn't have a taste for bandana.
C
Yeah.
D
Leclaire picks it up, but he's already wearing a bandana. So I was like, well, just got two bandanas.
A
Now.
D
He couldn't have just had him put it on, but now he was already.
C
Wearing his bandana, unfortunately, you watch him hold it. He holds it in such a way that the blood just cascades down his forearm.
A
We need you to know she was killed and thus need to show you a lot of blood on this bandana.
B
And in the water, which that would not have happened.
A
So Nina's down, that Bobby's done. Nina's done. Leclaire the only one left there. The helpers. There's a. There's a part here too. They're obviously trying to figure out, well, what are we doing next? And they're talking about, obviously we got to continue. We got to get these samples. I wrote in my notes, for some reason, Rich guy says the average cost of a created species is 72 million. I guess that's Martin. I don't know why I put rich guy, but. But I made note of that because we had talked about in Fallen Kingdom in the dinosaur auction.
C
Oh, yeah, yeah.
A
The deals they were getting on these animals.
D
Indominus Rex goes for $48 million. That was a prototype.
A
I think they were getting great deals. Now that we're seeing 72 million. Just the creation of these species, right?
C
Insane. Yeah, Absolutely insane.
B
Dino inflation.
A
So. So Zora informs the survivors there that she employed a rescue helicopter to circle the island in 24 hours because they are stranded now. And she's like, it's okay, don't worry. I had a backup plan, and it is to get to this helipad, get to this spot, and in 24 hours, if they don't make radio contact with us, them or we don't do it with them, they'll come and save us.
C
Yeah.
A
I mean, good thinking.
D
I knew we were going to crash on this island. I guarantee something bad is going to happen when we go here.
C
That's right. Don't worry, guys. I gave us a two minute window. Literally two minutes.
D
We should be able to nail this.
A
So the team again, still working on their samples, and we are going to be bouncing back and forth here a little bit between the Delgados, who are then going to be obviously washed ashore onto the island, and this expedition team. But our expedition team, they locate the titanosaurus, the herd in the field, and they extract their second sample. This one's easy.
C
Yeah.
A
If they weren't all like this, you know, just Just these diet. These titan dinosaurs making love to each other.
C
Oh, yeah.
A
Oh my God. Necking and bellowing away and hundreds of them in the valley. But they're not going to hurt you. And we get the John Williams JP theme song extended version here. How Martin's touching his leg and stuff. Yeah.
C
Oh my God. How sore is John Williams teats at this point? I mean, they've been suckling at this thing for seven movies now. It's time, it's time to let it go.
A
But I'm sorry. They really.
C
They really milked it again, pardon the puns.
A
Yeah.
C
But you know, I'm kidding because I love. It's my favorite John Williams theme and I'm happy to hear it. And this arrangement was beautiful. I don't know the tales on these things. When I was. When I watched this in the theater, I was like, I was a little caught up with it because big screen, sure. It's like, okay, we haven't seen this before. You know, this sort of sensual. They're having sex, these dinosaurs, neck to neck.
B
Those tails must have been huge in the theater.
C
Oh, yeah. They were monsters, I'm sure. Must have felt like they were coming.
B
Out of the screen.
C
Yeah.
A
But you didn't like them.
C
I didn't love it when I watching it at home here they got a 4K TV. It's. It's not a big screen TV or by any means. Or like a. A movie theater later. It looked not great to me. I don't know, it would looked, you know, like, like the Abyss. James Cameron's the Abyss. The Water. Do you know what I mean? It looked very computery. Yeah. Also, you know, they're like. They're in tall grass. Sure. And they're like, wait, wait. And then suddenly there's 50 of these things. Thank you, Burr Wonderstone. Like, like, where do they come from? They're the quietest, biggest animal of all time.
A
They really.
C
They're called the titanosaurus. But they're silent.
A
Yeah, they are.
C
Anyway, right on their feet, light on there.
D
Were their tails furry or am I just kind of a mess?
C
Great question.
D
Coral tail or a cat, but a.
A
Little bit of hair.
C
Yeah. Maybe.
A
Had too much Avatar vibes with them.
C
That's what I mean. That's what I'm saying.
A
How they like, looked.
C
Yeah.
D
How did everybody feel about. They're going through this tall grass. Like JD Is saying. Of course they're not hearing these gigantic creatures. It feels like a Vietnam War scene kind of to me. And the tension is broken by somebody eating altoids you look over. It's not a dinosaur chopping on somebody.
A
I don't know why.
D
Somebody needs to freshen up. Probably a mouthful of salt water, throw a spearman in there and feel good. But I was like, what? That's the jump scare is an Altoid crunch.
A
Like, wouldn't it have been actually funnier if they hadn't shown us Dr. Loomis eating his Altoids in the museum earlier?
C
That's a great call.
A
So, like, they completely ruined, like, I guess, any sort of humor to it.
D
Put a mint on a mint a.
C
Little bit, kind of. It's like.
A
Yeah, we get it. Like, that's his thing. It's like how he decides or whatever. I don't even know. But it would have been sort of funnier of, like, the first crunch. What the. Yeah, I think he's just eating Altoids.
C
Yeah. Breaking the tension of that scene. I couldn't agree more. I will say.
B
Was that loud in the theater?
C
Oh, yeah. I will shout out to Jonathan Bailey. Is that his name?
A
Yeah.
C
Henry Loomis.
A
Dr. Loomis.
C
Yeah. An appropriate reaction to. It did capture the wonder that they try to squeeze into all of these. He. When he's touching the dinosaur. Some very good acting there next to a tree tr. Trunk. Basically touching the dinosaur for the first time.
D
You know, I. I like tears in his eyes, basically.
C
Exactly. I like that, too. It was. It was good.
B
That felt like the only moment of the movie where there were actual dinosaurs. Like, pardon my dinosaur ignorance. But it just felt like.
A
Yeah, the other ones all seem fake.
B
Yeah. And so they overdid it. They overdid it.
C
It was long.
A
It was long.
B
There's 50 of them.
A
The scene was like, oh, yeah, that one shot. God, there's maybe more. There's so many in the valley there.
C
Yeah.
A
Moving.
B
They dipped in hard.
A
Yeah. Okay, well, that's two down, two sandals.
D
Mean. I thought it was mean that they blasted it in the neck while it was cuddling. Like, aim somewhere else. It's not hard to mit. Like, it's very. That one's a hard one to miss. Just shoot it in the gun, you know, Shoot it in the leg. Doesn't have to go straight. Why wouldn't.
A
Why was it in the leg?
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
An artery, maybe.
D
It needs a better launch angle for the rocket to. To go up.
A
Good cat. Good catch from Duncan on that one. That one was perfect. Was it not? Came right to him. Reached his hand out right in his palm. All right, well, let's stick with this team because the Final one is the Quetzalcoatlas. Quetzalcoatlas, the bird one. The large and carnivorous animal, the size of an F16, they say. And the team hopes to avoid issues with this one by obtaining the final sample from an egg instead. Okay, they're like, how the hell are we gonna get the bird version? Just get the egg. Smart, smart.
C
That is smart.
A
At first I got into a debate with Nora about this. I was like, hold on, hold on, hold on. I thought the whole mission was we gotta get it from the three largest animals. But then Nora's like, yeah, but it's that animal's genes. It's its egg, so that should work too. To which I say, then why don't you do that for the other ones too, at least? I mean, I guess the Titanosaurus is easy, so it doesn't matter. Tough to do for the Mosasaurus in the water. So. Okay, it makes sense.
D
It makes total sense. Say it like that.
A
Yeah, she talked me into it.
D
Stem cell research basically is what they're doing.
C
Right.
A
So Zora, Henry LeClaire, they rappel to reach a nest located in an ancient temple on the side of a cliff.
D
Yeah, they go to the Temple of Doom.
C
Pretty much. Pretty much?
D
What is this, some kind Temple of Doom? Yeah, it sounded like a good idea to get it from the Quetzalcoatlus nest. Until you realize that the nest is stuck in the side of a hidden temple. That's what, 500ft from the top of the cliff? Yeah, I do think pretty cool terrain in this movie. A lot of tall terrain.
C
100%.
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah. But what a God damn, what a head slapper. Right? Like there's stairs to this thing. Thing that take us all the way down to the bottom. They find the stairs after they've started repelling.
A
Yeah, right.
C
Was like, oh, look at this, look at that. Perfectly carved out stairs that go somewhere, probably to the nest. And then all the way to the ground they went.
A
Those stairs also went to the nest.
C
But they must have. Right. Where do they go if.
A
Well, you think they just repels all the way down?
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She doesn't know about the stairs.
A
She doesn't know about the stairs. Okay. I guess we could debate whether the stairs that Kinkaid and Martin find, which do go all the way to the bottom. I'm not denying that because that's how they come down. But do they go to the nest?
C
Why wouldn't they? You would have. It would have to stop in that room. It's right above the room why would you build stairs? And like, you know what? Let's go. Let's go in the room for a minute. Minute.
A
You're probably right.
C
Yeah.
A
Okay.
D
The only entrance is through the window.
C
Yeah.
A
So Zora, Henry, Ler. Yeah, they. They're in the ancient temple there on the side. Or they're getting down there. They're repelling down. Got the other two at the top, like I said. And then apparent Quetzalcoatlatlas returns to The Ness, devours LeClaire.
C
Yeah.
A
So all three are now gone.
C
And.
A
I was going to say they were. One was killed by each specimen they were trying to locate, but that's not true. Titanosaurus ain't going to do nothing to you unless you got stomped on accidentally.
C
But. Yeah, but the spino got.
A
The spino got Spino d. But Zora and Henry, they do manage to escape with the sample. This is that scene where it's teetering on the edge and he's trying to get over and you think the. The rope is going to break and it does, right? Eventually, he falls.
C
Yeah, he falls all the way into the. He falls to his death. Death.
A
Yeah. No.
C
Oh, wait a minute. No, not to his death.
A
Tree water.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
But I wrote in my notes, this guy, man, for like a scientist or a museum director, this guy is badass. He is always gun ho to do anything.
D
Doesn't Zora say to him, you're one impressive nerd. And he is, man.
A
He really is. Yeah.
D
It's simple. They don't even have to pay this guy. He's like, I'll do whatever.
A
Yeah.
D
As long as I get to hug a titanosaurus. He's like rolling Tembo, but nice.
C
That's right.
D
I just want to be out there. All I want to do is hug a dinosaur.
A
You don't have to pay me. His fee is to watch those two dinosaurs have sex. I don't need the 10 million.
D
As long as I know, voyeur some.
A
Next sex from dinos out there. I'm good. So they all survive. They all make it to the bottom. Elsewhere on the island, though, guys, Ruben, he is with this family and he does have a little, I guess, bonding scene with Xavier. He commends Xavier for rescue, rescuing his daughter Teresa. And I guess that's the part where Xavier's then like, I gotta take a piss.
C
Yeah.
A
He goes pee. Goes way too far to take a piss.
D
Yeah. I love that Reuben is like, ready to smooth over the relationship with Xavier. And he is kind of like. Of like, I don't necessarily need to be the cocky guy I was in my first couple of scenes. So you're assuming, yeah, okay, he's going to take over the watch here, but nope, he's out of here. He's like, I got to pee. Yeah, this guy always has to handle his business before he gets down to the next thing. He's like, I know I just woke up from a nap, but I got a nap here for another hour before I take the wheel. And while you're doing the watch, I'm going to go pee over here.
B
Whatever, guapo.
C
Yeah, whatever.
D
Don't down talk yourself.
A
I mean, the only reason he goes pee is so he get the cool scene of dinosaurs fighting behind him and he's oblivious.
C
G. Yep, exactly. Right. I mean, there's the one time we see raptors in this movie, I believe, and they get done dirty by a big bird. Bird comes down and Oscar's there. This really bothered me. He's like taking an Austin Powers length, of course. Oh, yeah.
A
Part of the joke is he holds. Holds it.
C
He holds it for a bit. Yeah, yeah, that's true. But, yeah, but wouldn't you turn around? Wouldn't you be at least a little curious what was happening behind you? And there's also no way that I'm continuing peeing after that. It's like, okay, I guess whatever's happening behind me is over, so. Piss.
D
Interesting.
B
It's never happened to you?
C
It's never happened.
B
Well, not, not dinosaurs flying behind us, but I mean, had to stop.
A
Of course it.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if it's like, you know, if it's a stressful situation, it's going to be. It's not coming out that easily afterwards.
D
You didn't think he was peeing super hard because he was nervous?
C
Wow, that's.
D
I thought, I thought it was like a. A frightened, frightened load of pee.
C
Well, I don't know. When I'm frightened, I can't pee. I was like, I. I may need to bolt at any moment here. So.
D
But, but a wet pair of pants is a classic sign of somebody who's been scared to death.
C
That's true. You're right. You right.
B
Yeah, that's what I thought. We were going to see some brown pants. I thought going to poop himself or something.
C
It would have been better if he had said, I got to go piss and then saw like came close to death and then never peed. But he had pissed himself. Right. Like, that would have been funny.
D
That would have been great.
A
Did he actually say, by the Way I got to go piss respect to that writing on that.
C
Really? Yeah.
A
Cuz I say that all the time. Nor gets pissed off when.
D
With me, ironically, for saying, you're going to.
C
I got to take a piss. I mean, I've heard you be at.
A
A dinner table and be like. And I don't. You know, I just like, I got to take a piss.
C
Yeah.
D
And she says, do you show, don't tell.
A
She's just like, what do you think?
C
That's a little uncouth.
A
Yeah, absolutely is. I'll admit that it is. But I like that Xavier said it. Like real people say they're in the.
C
They're in the jungle. I mean, it's fine.
A
Yeah, I know.
B
I mean, he's real. Do. Do you smoke? He also asked, do you guys smoke?
C
That's the. That was the stupidest. Look, we haven't really gotten into how stupid this character is, but he is a just a complete. Not a real person. Like it's. This is a non playable character in a. In a video game and it's so underwritten that you. You're like this. They should have put a little bit more effort in a video game, I'm saying, but for a movie where he actually has to do stuff and have some sort of redemption, like, it's. It's unconscionable that they let this guy live. Like, he should have been done dead as soon as they got to the island.
A
But you can't. He saved Teresa immediately.
C
Yeah, Then. Then he died.
A
We're like, hate this guy for the first five minutes. Put her shirt on, you loser. Take the wheel.
C
Right?
A
And then like one minute later, like, damn, this guy's a hero. Nah, I was.
C
I wasn't.
A
I jumped in right away.
C
No, I can't get over.
A
Did more than Reuben did.
C
I cannot get over how disrespectful he was on that boat.
A
Well, he was.
C
I was like, sorry. And then you jumped in after your girlfriend. Oh, the bare minimum. That's the bare minimum.
A
No, the bare minimum is to take the wheel for an hour.
C
Okay. That. You're right. You're right.
D
Or wake up with a shirt on.
C
Yeah, that's right. That part where he goes to. Where he goes to kbs, like just a guy he just met. That guy gives me the creeps. Who. Who would say that?
A
He's a good.
C
He was right. He was right.
B
I'll give say that. Kids get creeped out.
C
Kids.
A
Kids.
D
This guy's an adult.
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah, he's an adult. Well, he's not a kid.
A
I assume he's either going to college.
C
For that line for the kids. Man, that man is not college material.
A
Okay, we have spent way too much time on Xavier here.
D
I had one last question about the.
C
P. Okay, go on, J.D.
D
Do you feel that the Austin Power scene is the best P scene in all of cinema history?
C
It's not even close. Not even close. Yeah. Yeah.
A
I'm wrecking my brain for other ones.
D
But yeah, notable P scenes.
A
Refresh my memory.
C
Even on the Austin Power he comes out of. He's been frozen for 30 years and he comes out and.
A
Evacuation.
C
Evacuation, Evacuation. Yeah. And they, they keep interrupting. He keeps stopping, dribbling and then peeing some more. It's really, really good. A solid, solid bit.
D
30 years later hasn't been beaten.
A
That is good. Okay, so the family, the Delgado, they're searching for the ingen complex. They did remember that the expedition team talked about this whole like find the complex. Basically, Reuben wisely is like, hey, we just got to follow the pipes. That'll get us there.
C
That is smart.
A
That is smart. And they encounter. Honestly, they encounter various dinosaurs. There's a mutaton, a mutadon, which is a mutated raptor and pterosaur hybrid.
D
That was the flying one with the raptor head, kind of.
A
Yes, yeah, that. And then we get, of course, cute little Aquilops is what. It's the dinosaur's name. And that's the one Isabella Bella adopts and names Dolores. That is that cute little sort of stegosaurus looking one. A little bit, but it's pretty damn cute.
C
Cute.
A
She's feeding it like, I don't know, licorice or something. Whatever. She's snacks. She's got. She had licorice on the boat. Yeah, took a piece.
D
I remember he was hungry. Dude's eating all the snacks. Of course. Is that a full grown dino then? You're telling me? Cuz I thought it was like a baby version of a Triceratops or something.
C
Good question.
A
It's its own dinosaur for sure. So it's not a Tyrannosaurus or. Sorry, Stegosaurus or Triceratops? Yeah, it is its own thing. Don't know how big they get. Trying to look it up, but I think they're quite small. Yeah.
D
Like cat sized basically.
A
Yes.
B
Yeah. Yeah, it was.
C
Yeah.
B
I thought it was a baby.
D
Yeah, I was kind of worried that like we were going to get.
A
I think it is a juvenile. Yeah. Yeah.
D
Well, I was worried we were going to get a chase scene.
A
Oh, right. Her.
D
Regarding Taking a baby away from the nest. But.
C
Nope. Right.
A
Nope.
D
No, no.
A
This is.
D
This one's safe.
A
No, I mean, I'm jumping ahead, but, like, this baby lives wherever the Delgados live. I think it lives. It's her pet. Like her cat. It's her dog.
C
Yeah.
D
Yeah, it is.
A
Okay. We got a great scene here, though. At least I thought it was a good scene. The Delgados and the sleeping T. Rex scene here, JD where they're chased downstream by a T. Rex and they managed to escape it. They've got the emergency raft now. Now, getting into the scene was a little clunky. You know, they come to the water. Reuben's struggling because he's, like, hurt himself, I guess. He hurt himself on the boat, didn't he?
C
He did, yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
When he saved.
A
Yeah, Right, right, right.
B
That's not a little unclear. Help.
A
Yeah.
B
How hard he hit his legs.
A
Is it knee or something?
C
Yeah, because he was walking around swimming. He was walking and then. Yeah, they did follow.
A
That was adrenaline pumping through his body.
C
Okay.
A
But anyway, Teresa's like, well, to help you out, like, maybe we can just take this. This. There's looks to be a boat over there or whatever. And I'll get this raft. And, you know, we'll get you quicker there. We'll get there quicker. So she. She crosses the water, leaves everybody behind. There's. At first, there's a Dlossa. A dilophosaurus.
C
Yep.
A
Tries to scare her. She, like, manages it okay, I guess. No poison to the face. Right. And then there's the sleeping T. Rex. But she wakes up by inflating the raft.
C
Right.
A
But he does disappear. And then he's thirsty.
C
Yeah.
D
Get a drink.
A
But then he notices them. And then this leads off our chase scene here. And Rexy swimming in the water like he's William H. Macy. Right. And flips the wrath. And Bella gets trapped underneath, and they get through the rocks, and that's where they ultimately get away. But what would you think of this scene with the Rex sleeping wrecks and then the water scene here with the raft?
B
It was fun.
A
Yeah. I liked it.
B
I got into it. Danielle didn't see this scene. We had watched the first part of the movie together. She left. Then she said, what did I miss? I thought to myself, well, what am I digging for here? That scene is what I explained to her because it was super fun and super strenuous, and it's just nice to.
A
See an OG Dino that we know and love.
D
Earl, friend.
C
You know, just like, this is the first sleeping dinosaur I Think we've seen on the entire franchise. Right. Like, it wasn't like should passed out.
D
Yeah. I mean, I guess. Debatable. The triceratops who just took the huge dump and.
C
Yeah.
A
That was not feeling well.
C
Yeah. That was awake.
A
Yeah.
C
There was a T. Rex in the cage where they were trying to get the blood in Fallen kingdom.
A
Oh, drugged as well.
C
He was drugged. But this was just like, this was asking. Chilling.
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah. Which is nice to see. But it was just weird that the. She inflates the raft and then the egg disappears. Right. But then it's just like, I'm just gonna go get a drink of water, like. So what happened? Like did it. Did it just happen to wake up? Like, or didn't you expect it to be like stalking her or, you know, like.
A
It was groggy, I think. I guess it's like when I wake up, I'm thirsty and groggy.
C
Same.
D
Same with its mouth open and you.
C
Just slurp afterwards in like human years.
B
It's like 95 years old. It's old.
C
Fair.
B
You know, fair enough. That's my math.
A
But what'd you think of the sea?
D
I thought it was cool. Always excited to see the T Rex around. They change up the way it looks with the sleeping. Yeah. It's silly. It gets a drink of water. Apparently it can swim now, but maybe that's historically accurate.
A
Oh, yeah.
D
I don't know.
A
That was cool.
D
But I did like that it was a bit of a change up for the way we usually see the T Rex from a like a visual standpoint. But also like, we always get the T Rex on top of a vehicle crunching down and like, is this person going to get crushed? They change it up a little here using the stretchy part of the raft so you can see it like stretching down onto Isabella while she's underneath it. You can just like only see the teeth stretching in the raft. I thought that was a cool way to change up. The shot that we've seen in basically every single one of these. The stock stomp. The stomp shot. So now it's like a stretch shot. So I liked it.
C
Yeah. And the shot of the. Of the T Rex underwater snapping jaws.
A
Yeah.
C
While Reuben is trying to escape is. Is great. It's just visually stunning.
A
So I will say that is the most indestructible raft I have ever seen.
C
Totally. Yeah.
A
It can survive a T Rex.
C
Yeah.
A
Because it pops out underneath. Obviously the rocks that they get away from. It survived.
C
Yeah.
A
Thing had it in his mouth for Crying out loud. So. Wow. Well, well built. And, and then I did love the scene, but you know, I know they have to get away so they just have to use like this rock barrier that he like can't get his head through. And he's like, well, I guess I can't walk over it, swim under it.
D
I can only try and guess I'm shining. It pokes its head through.
A
But I mean, this was one of my favorite scenes in the movie.
C
Yeah.
B
And another terrible, terrible moment from dad who's just watching Isabella under a raft. Presumably he doesn't even know that she's under there. He doesn't, he doesn't even go saber at all. He just hangs out in that little, little nook.
A
Hope she makes it.
B
Yeah, but yes, I mean it is, it's nail biting. That's good.
D
I laughed a lot. When was it? Is it Teresa who goes to get the raft and she pulls the raft like out of whatever structure it's in. And on the side of it it says emergency raft, self inflating type just so you know what she's carrying. And it looks like it comes from no frills. It's plain yellow with black text on it. It tells you exactly what it is.
C
That's right.
D
No frill sells good self inflating rafts. Oh, that's what it seems like.
C
Yeah. Yeah.
D
Usually you're there for chips.
C
Sure.
D
The bulk bin maybe, but I didn't know they had wraps. Maybe it's like a Costco. They got everything.
C
It also says on the package, kids, you must inflate it on the land. It'll sink otherwise. It'll sink. But I would argue she. It was ankle deep, that water because she walked across it to get to the dock. But. But it's fine. Yeah, we will allow it.
B
Yeah, that was the funny part. And that she said to her dad, well, you can't walk, so you can't walk through this ankle deep water. It's not really.
A
Well, why don't you just get in the water and like float on your back then?
B
Yeah, yeah, do something.
C
What about the bonitos?
A
Did you know it's pronounced benit?
B
Inflatable boats are a thing and people ride inflatable kayaks. Oh yeah, they're tough.
C
Okay.
B
Dinos can't eat them.
A
I guess T. Rex tooth cannot penetrate. That's impressive. Well, at the complex, the family reunites with the expedition group. So they all meet up there and Teresa calls out, Martin. Hey, that's the guy that basically killed me. Tried to kill Me. But Martin and I did skip over this really quick scene. He had found a gun. Had a. He.
C
Yes.
A
When they were traversing through the jungle, found a gun, grab that, held on to that. And so he holds the others at gunpoint. He's like, no, I'm in control now. I'm taking the samples here from Zora. And he flees because he's like, I didn't get the hell out of Dodge. I'm going to the helipad. He's got a utv. He's got a vehicle. So he. So he's off. And this is when a pack of Mutadons. Again, these are like part Raptor, part pterodactyl, whatever. They descend on the survivors who ultimately escaped through an underground tunnel. And we do have the scene in the. What was that? Like a gas station or something?
C
It's literally a service station.
A
Yeah, something like that. Maybe there's the whole thing in there. Any thoughts on all this? I mean, I'm skipping over a lot of scene here, but anything getting into the tunnels to avoid them, which we'll continue here in a second, but.
B
Well, it was earlier with. When Krebs said, I'm too smart to die. And this is just. It's obvious it's happening here. It's happening right here. Yeah, I got weirded out by that gas station, seeing all the. The lights go on. I just like, where. Where are we anyways? It's a gas station.
A
I suppose the generator only kicks on at night.
C
Yeah, every night, I guess. Right. So where we get Benny King playing? Is that with Standby Me? Stand By Me for sure is just, you know, every night it's lit up for the last 17 years for nothing, for nobody. Geothermal, I guess. So it's fine, but it's just crazy. Right?
B
And where does Martin KBS that gun? Where does that gun come from? It's just. It's literally just hanging there in somebody. A body that is holding a gun.
C
Like a helicopter crash. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
It looks like some vehicle.
C
Yeah, yeah.
D
And the body fell out holding the gun like this, just so Martin Krebs can return retain it eventually. Awesome. And then, yeah, they basically are like. Remember that kitchen scene from Jurassic park that everybody loves? Now it's an inconvenience store.
A
Yeah, yeah. That's all it was. Well, my thing with him having a gun. Martin, like, obviously finding a gun. Like, you're telling me Duncan and Zora are not carrying guns?
C
Well, I think I got. It was all in that stuff that.
A
Got dragged away, didn't have anything on them. Yeah, not a single weapon.
C
That's what they said.
A
Except all these dart guns. Yeah, okay, okay.
C
I mean, yeah. Had some flares.
A
Wait, they got a lot of flares when they were packing things up? Yeah, I got a lot of flares. They're like, well, Bobby, you, Bobby, you got the guns, right? Yeah, I got all the guns. But then Bobby's gone.
D
Bobby's gone.
A
Maybe. So the rescue helicopter, it's coming. Come on, you got to get there. And it does arrive. Life. But it's destroyed by the D Rex. This thing is a monster. And that is the creature, the alien, the monster that's ultimately going to kill Martin as well. That scary ass looking thing. Yeah, a big ass head.
D
Yeah. They pull a flare gun out in this one. I put in my notes. Oh, I had also put in my notes earlier when they had a flare gun. Oh, didn't pay off that time. But bad connotations for the flare gun. And this one turned to out pretty poorly. They shoot the flare gun which basically just alerts the helicopter to go towards the D Rex and the helicopter gets eaten immediately. And I got to say, I like the D Rex. I was asking for some freak show dinos.
A
Freaking bu.
D
This one was an absolute menace. Looked like the alien from aliens. Yeah, 100% but with like gigantic arms. It's been hitting the gym as well. I thought it was appropriately gross.
C
Yeah, it's got some rancor in him as well. From Star Wars. Yeah. This is another Bert Wonderstone moment where you hear the helicopter approaching the pad and then he's just holding, ah, an illusion. It's me holding the helicopter in my jaws. My vicious jaws.
A
Oh yeah.
C
I mean it was fine. It was, it got me for sure. And it was great when he sort of fly like flings it away and there's a huge explosion. But. But yeah, but they like. It's a sleight of hand that kind of annoys me sometimes because I can hear the, the helicopter. I'm hearing it, I'm hearing it, I'm hearing. And I'm hearing it until just the moment and then you see that the helicopter has no blades on it and you know it's getting ripped apart by this.
A
That's a problem. That's your problem.
C
It's like, okay, I mean you tricked me. Okay, fine. But it's not realistic.
A
I will say as soon as Martin handcuffed himself to the briefcase, I too was like, that arm's getting chopped off.
C
Oh yeah, for sure.
A
We know you're Already dying. Now we have a pretty good idea that your complete arm is getting ripped off from a dinosaur, thus letting go of the briefcase. But that's where we're at. And that is what happens. He gets destroyed.
D
Why did I put in my notes D Rex eats Krebs like a food. Does he like chomp it like.
A
Yeah, he does. Has like a.
D
Like a burrito.
A
Yeah, like a Snickers bar.
C
Wow.
A
Wow.
D
He thinks that's the candy. The D. Rex thinks humans are the candy. Interesting deep metaphor.
A
The survivors, they reach a locked gate. Cuz remember they are in the tunnels here. And Zora finds her way in there to help everybody out too. And we have been told there are tunnels under the entire island before, right? Okay, well that's right.
C
Not before we get to the Mahershala mentions it.
A
No, but I don't even mean this movie. I feel like we've been told.
C
But this is a different. That's a different island completely.
A
So the other islands also have tunnels. We have. We've talked about tunnels before on some of these islands. For sure.
C
Yeah.
A
I haven't seen a lot of them, but they've been like. Somebody has said it before.
C
I know, right?
A
Anyway, yeah. So they're all under there and they get to the end, locked gate, end of the tunnel. They see a boat on the other side, but they can't get through. Oh my God. I guess one of the crazy dinosaurs is coming down the back chasing them. Teresa's like telling them we got to get out of here, we got to get out of here. Obviously the D Rex on the other side, but Isabella, small enough to fit through the gate, she. She slips through, she unlocks it and it allows the group to load onto the boat. And this is when we need Duncan to divert the D Rex and he uses a flare.
D
Oh yeah.
A
So Zora, Henry, Reuben, Teresa and Xavier and Isabella, they all escape and Duncan's dead. He sacrificed himself until he's not. He's not dead.
D
He died doing what he loves, Protecting kids. But he didn't die.
C
No, he died doing what he hates. Dying in the D jungle.
A
Right.
C
He said he wasn't going to die.
A
He said he was not going to die in the jungle.
C
And he was right. God damn. Damn it.
D
He wakes up and says, call it I didn't die in the jungle.
A
He fires a flare gun after the DRX retreats and they go and get him. Yeah, and I guess I was reading about this, there were versions of this where he does die.
C
Yeah.
A
And he wanted to die.
C
Mahera yeah, yeah.
A
He said, I think it's better if I do die. And I don't know if they tested it or whatever. They're like, nah, it's better if you live, man.
C
Okay. But.
A
Yeah, it's so dumb.
C
It is so dumb. And it. Look, if. Fine. Everybody wants to keep Mahershala in the movie, in the franchise, I'm one of them. He didn't get. Really. He was kind of underutilized, as you. As you mentioned in this film. So, you know, let's give him some more like, moments in the next movie and stuff. But you gotta show us how he gets out of it. You have to if you're gonna.
B
Yeah.
C
Right there. Yeah, right there.
A
What.
C
What is he do exactly? And we know that he didn't throw the flare because we see the flare go out from the water, Right? So we know that it. The flare just extinguished. So how he got out of it, we'll never know. But we. We need to see him get out of it.
A
Maybe Duncan Kincaid is the magic man. Maybe he's the Copperfield. He can make the D. Rex disappear.
C
That's right.
D
He is. He's the first one to use a flare gun as a flare and not have something chase after it. So you might be on to something because every other time we've seen a flare gun, dinosaur chases it. But when he needs to alert the rest of the crew where he is, he just shoots a flare gun.
C
Yeah, it.
D
Totally fine.
A
Yeah.
D
The D.WRCK's no longer interested.
C
Right. First, for whatever reason.
D
Yep.
A
We need to know why he should have died. I'm sorry.
C
Yeah, you're right. He should have.
A
He sacrificed himself. He played his part.
C
Heart.
A
He said he wasn't gonna die in the jungle, but. Sorry, you did.
C
Yeah. That just adds to the tragedy and the sadness.
A
Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah. It would even like. It almost would drive home the fact of Zora and Dr. Loomis. Like, let's. What are we gonna do with this medicine now? Let's do it. Open source and cure everybody. We'll name it Duncan. The Duncan remedy.
C
That's right. He gave his life for this. Also, the guy that was gonna pay us is also dead, so we might as well give it to the rest of the world.
A
So the samples are in hand here. Zora and Henry agree to distribute the new medication without a patent, make it open source for the entire planet. And the final scene of this movie is dolphins swimming alongside the raft. Little reminiscent of the final scene in Jurassic Park 1993 version in which Dr. Grant is watching the flock of birds through the window. The pelicans of his helicopter after.
C
So mammals are back.
D
Baby dolphins rule the oceans once again.
A
And that's. That's rebirth.
D
They kept Dolores.
A
They keep. Yeah, she's living with them.
D
Which, I mean, I guess we got dinos in cities.
C
Yeah, but they're dying. They can't live in the city.
A
Yes.
C
Like the best thing for Dolores is if they. They she's left on the island. Right?
A
We don't know where they left live.
C
They don't live on that island. They don't live at the equator.
A
No, they don't.
C
They live somewhere between Barbados and Cape Town. Well, the older sister is going to nyu.
D
Is that what you said?
C
I don't know, actually.
D
She'll never see Dolores.
B
Sounds familiar.
A
I have no idea where they were from. I don't think we ever learned.
C
Same.
A
Yeah. Okay. Well, that's Jurassic World Rebirth.
D
Should they have been celebrating when they get off the island? I mean, I don't know if the contract still holds up the 1010 with six zeros. But they did their mission. You know, they got their samples that they wanted and they all survived. And all the dinosaurs are still living there.
A
So.
D
Yeah, only the bad guys die. I think this should be a joyous celebration.
A
I guess I read it as. They're definitely not getting paid because this was only a Martin Krebs.
D
Yeah, this is a Krebs joint.
C
Yeah.
A
But then that goes back to when we had the big debate about. About the Kirby Enterprises tricking Dr. Alan Grant, pretending they were rich. And you were like, why? Come on, man. Just go cash the check. Or at least like do some research a little. Right.
B
So you know, they should have a computer. He didn't have a computer.
A
Well, he didn't, but they should like get a little up front of this 10 million.
B
Yeah.
A
Get a million at least.
B
That would have been smart.
C
Yeah.
B
I would have liked to see Masha Ali end this movie. Him laughing. Because I think his laugh was probably one of the best parts of this movie. He would laugh every time Zora did something. Something cool in his eyes.
A
Wow.
B
You just got that gun from that guy. He's got a great laugh. Give us the Masha Ali laugh. Even though he should have been.
A
But it's a somber tone is what you're saying. Them heading out.
D
Yeah, because it was in Jurassic Park 1.
A
Yeah.
D
I would like to see one group of people be excited. They survive. Holy shit.
C
That was true.
A
Believe that. You're alive.
D
We did it. But now everyone. Everybody's like we're never doing that again. Which. Understandable.
A
Yeah.
C
They lost some friends.
A
Yeah, they did lose some friends.
C
About the. Think. They're thinking of leclerc. What do you mean?
A
Okay, maybe Dalton the Delgado's got nothing.
D
Yeah, they're pumped. They're leaving with a dino. How many private dino owners are there in the world at this point?
C
Xavier at least should have been. That was awesome. Yeah.
A
Or at least taken. Yeah. Having a small smoke or something.
C
Yeah.
A
Holy crap. Okay, favorite scene. Favorite scene. TAs or character or dinosaur from Rebirth?
B
Well, I'm a dad, so I got tied to the moment when Delgado said to his kid, after Bella survived in the raft, under the raft, he said to her, oh, you're being quiet. You don't want to talk right now. That's okay. She was internalizing.
C
Okay.
B
I mean, it happened. Happens. It had. There. There was a writing and directing.
C
The.
B
The idea was, hey, some kids just don't talk. That hit home with me. There's some kids that are introverts, and then they show up, and they know how to use the touch screen at the end to survive and save everybody because they're engineer freaking geniuses.
A
They grew up with an iPhone in their hand. That was no problem for her to unlock it.
C
What do you mean, not a problem for her to unlock lock. It is like, unlock, press.
A
Oh, yeah.
C
And then lever. Okay.
B
Lever was part of it.
C
Yeah.
A
You don't think Xavier would have struggled with that somehow?
C
Definitely was not the man for that particular job. Nope, not the man for that job.
A
I did think for a second. I thought for one second when they were trying to get through the gate. Hey, take your shirt off. Yeah. Yeah, slick.
B
It was fun how the gate rose and they were worried, oh, now we're gonna get eaten. Which was funny.
D
A lot of concerns. What about you, TK I like the water stuff. So when we finally meet the Delgados, they get flipped over by the Mosasaurus. The spinosaurus come and scare them as well. I like that. It leads into the other crew going to try and rescue them, and then their encounter with the Mosasaurus as well. Well, I'm just a big fan of this dino. Yeah, I like it. I like the whale dino. Okay. And all that stuff worked for me. I thought it was pretty suspenseful.
A
J.D.
C
I'M with you. The water stuff, I would have been happy to stay in the water the entire movie, to be honest. The spinosaurus, which I hated in Jurassic Park 3, worked really well for me. And just the idea of the Mosasaurus and the spinosaurus working together. This pack of deadly fish. I mean, I love Jaws. I love, you know, dead calm. That kind of anything on the water I'm into. So yeah, the. The water stuff. And as you say, Trey, like just the spectacular. I mean it was a bit sea worldy and whale watchy with. With it coming out of the water. But when, you know, I have to admit that watching it on the big screen I was just like, God damn, this is awesome. You know, So I love the water stuff. The islands. I am so done with. With jungles and dinosaurs and I've. I don't care about.
A
I think that's why they do this. Done the. We've done the Jurassic park movie where it's all in the sky, basically all airborne.
C
Yeah.
A
Now we're in the water.
C
Totally. And I think they were like, everybody loves Mosasaurus. We need a way to incorporate the. Rather than just coming up and chomping somebody at the very beginning or the very end of a movie, like, we need to incorporate it. Which is hard to do obviously. But yeah, the. The water stuff, I'm with Trey. It was the best part of this movie.
A
My favorite scene is definitely the. The raft scene when he. The sleeping T. Rex starts chasing them. That was cool. That was fun. I didn't mind the opening of the movie either. Like the. I mean, as dumb as the candy bar part is, you know, shut everything down. It did. It didn't look cool, but it looked like alien with all the red and the smoke and this crazy like mutated scary looking dinosaur or something. I didn't mind that part.
C
They do the same scene in Godzilla, but they're with no Godzilla. It's a nuclear acc. Way more emotional. Like Cranston kills it in this scene. So go back and watch that. It's a way better version of this. Right, Right. Way better.
A
Any random notes or observations from our final movie here of the franchise?
D
Like I said earlier, a big movie for eating. Scarlet is chowing down a couple of times. We've got the Snickers early on. I remember Xavier was eating M&M's at.
A
At one point.
D
And of course we have the jump scare from the Altoids as well. I'm sure these are all the same candy conglomerate, you know, the ingen of real life. The candy companies coming up with new stuff all the time. New freaky candy bars. They got their money worth in this one.
B
When did Scarlet eat? I know she was eating on. She looked like she was eating from like a takeout packaging. It looked Like Greg Anthony back when we worked at NBA tv. She just had. She was scooping. She was scooping. She didn't see what she was eating.
D
That's in the same scene when it's a sin to kill a dinosaur was said. So it must be when they. Like when. Oh, I guess it's when she's talking with Kincaid about their sad lives.
A
Yeah, they're in the boat. Yeah.
B
She's taken out whatever she's taken out. She just brought that on.
D
Yep.
B
Yep.
A
The only real random note I have is, did you see the school bus in New York City? Crichton Middle School painted on the side?
D
Oh, really funny.
A
Nice little no there. To the writer of these movies. Any other observations?
C
It bothered me that Mahershali was made to wear a wool beret the entire movie. How hot would that have been? It's. I mean, I know. Like, it gives him a badass look. Like a, you know, a Green Beret or whatever. But, like, even just hanging out in the bar, like, it's hot, it's sweaty, like, I would be dying. Like, it's. It's got no ventilation. It's a winter hat. A beret is a winter hat. Guys, why would you make. Why would you make him wear this?
B
Right?
A
Because it looks badass.
C
It does look bad.
A
I'm with you. Like, why stop there? You got to be chomping on a cigar. Yeah, that's the look. Yeah, that's the badass look.
C
You're right.
A
Green beret.
C
Yeah. Make the mercenaries, right?
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
D
All right, my last note is when I think this is when Xavier is saying, or Kincaid is saying, I don't want to die in the jungle. And they ask Henry how he wants to die, and he says he wants to die in shallow water so he'll be covered by silt because it's the easiest way to be turned into a fossil. I thought that was the craziest response you could possibly have to that question. And they say to him, you're a weirdo.
A
Yeah.
D
Those crabs, that was the biggest laugh for me. And then he just, like. He just goes into Dr. Ian Malcolm mode saying, like, the scariest stuff that's possibly gonna happen, including that humans rule the Earth until they don't, and that 99.9 of species are extinct. Yeah, I don't know if that's scientifically true. Sounds bad.
A
I was like, wow. I thought the exact same thing. I was like, wow, is that true? I didn't care to look it up.
D
That sounds. Sounds terrible. I heard in A movie once the 80% of dust is human skin cells. And I don't think that's true either. So I can't trust anything that's high.
A
Yeah.
D
And if you, if you do die in a shallow pool of water and are covered by silt, is it a guarantee you get to turn into a fossil? They have to leave you there forever?
A
Yeah, I was going to say give it time, I think, but I don't know.
D
So how are they doing the ceremony? Ceremony?
A
I don't know. That. That stat you gave me about. What'd you say? Dust being skin cell. That's like ruining interstellar for me now. That's really gross. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
C
Yeah.
A
Okay, let's. Let's find out how the people think about Jurassic World REBIRTHA Rotten Tomatoes 51% from the critics again. This was coming out this most recent summer here. This is our blockbuster 2025 or one of them. So sort of split on that from the critics, 51% audience 71%. So a little bit better. Not the best we've seen, of course, here in the franchise, but what do you. Actually, I'll give you a few reviews before I get your take, guys. This one I read going back to basics with rip roaring set pieces and fossilized cliches. Jurassic World Rebirth doesn't evolve this prehistoric franchise, but it does restore some of its most reliable DNA. So that one's a bit of a positive one, but this one From Christy at RogerEbert.com's There are some sporadic joys here in the clever sight gags, the sleight of hand, the bait and switch. These moments remind us of the mindless summertime excitement the Jurassic movies have long provided, albeit with diminishing returns. But that giant footprint just isn't as imposing as it used to be. Tass how you rank in Jurassic World Rebirth where you slotting it in?
B
I'm slotting it in with just a bunch of other movies right in the 4 out of 10 grouping. I was just a little confused at sometimes. It felt kind of like stranger things to me. That being said, people weren't weird enough about some of these creatures. I mean, sometimes that family, the Delgado family, was sitting in the water after going through some things. Things. And there's literally like these dino slash snakes, like swimming around them. They didn't even move. They weren't scared. There wasn't, there wasn't that feeling. So that kind of, you know, I, I do get the going back to some things. Definitely like the DNA. Sure it exists, but after watching seven movies it doesn't feel the same way at all. Now, it might feel that way for people just seeing this for the first time and not having seen the first six movies. Movies, but that ain't me. So I wasn't that excited, you know, It's a four out of ten for me.
A
Okay.
C
That's where I'm at.
A
So sort of near the bottom of.
B
Your rankings for sure group.
A
Yeah.
D
It's weird to imagine seeing this movie as your first Jurassic Park. I mean, sure, I'm sure there are people that are.
B
Absolutely. I've read reviews where they're like, yeah.
D
I kind of like this.
B
I've never seen any of them.
D
This was the first one I saw in a theater since Probably Jurassic Park 3 definitely didn't see any of the world ones and the theater. So that definitely helps. I think for me, it's about a 4 out of 10 as well. I did like it better than Fallen Kingdom and Dominion, so I don't know, it ranks around there. And I will probably see the next one in theater whenever they come out with it, just because, I don't know, like, I enjoyed the theater experience seeing these big old creatures out there. But like 4 out of 10 as a movie, though. So in like the second hour of this, I started thinking of it as a parody. Like, if you were gonna make a joke of a Jurassic park movie, this is basically how you would do it. Including things like the Altoid and how many times they play the score. They play the John Williams joy theme probably 15 different times. And at the weirdest moment, after we do a scientific experiment on a dinosaur, they're like. And it was like they're spamming it to the point where it becomes comical. They didn't go far enough for it to be a parody, but if they did, it would be like a 5 star 10 out of 10 parody to me. Because there are parts that are just so funny. Like seeing the dinosaurs cuddling and loving each other, and then somebody takes out a giant dart gun and blasts it in the neck. I'm like, that would be funny if they were really playing it for laughs. They're not. So I come down as a 4 out of 10.
A
Okay. JD how do you feel about rebirth?
C
I was a 4 when I had seen it in the movie theater. I was caught up in the spectacle of it. But watching it here in my home, seeing all of the flaws, all of the stupid, stupid stuff, you know, with just me and the movie, it's a two for me. I don't know where that ranks for My other rankings, but it's low, obviously. Two out of ten. Yeah. Hmm. Just a goddamn chore to watch this. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe there's some fatigue happening as well with.
A
Oh, I'm sure there's some dinosaur fatigue amongst the group. We've watched a lot of these in pretty short span.
C
Yeah.
A
But this movie does suck 100%. Like, you have to defend. Like, I think you said it, Trey. Like, I'm watching this going well, when we were doing Fast Friends and we were watching all the crazy Fast and Furious. Like, it gets insane, but it's like a parody of itself.
C
Yeah.
A
It's obviously, like, poking fun of its itself. Now, Vin might be taking it seriously, but there is something to it. Like, you're laughing at it. Like, this is ridiculous, but it's still fun. This movie lacks that. Like, this franchise lacks that. It's like, you should lean into that, I think, and really go crazy. Silly, funny, whatever. Because I just, like, was, like, bored in this movie. Outside of a few set pieces, I was like, don't care about these people. I. You know, this is sort of a dumb mission as it is.
C
Yeah.
A
And I just, like. It's just boring. And it's like, sort of a big why. Well, ultimately, the why is, like, people are gonna go to the movie theater, and it's still gonna make dollars. I get it. But, like, do something. Switch it up.
C
Totally.
A
Like, how many more times can we do this sort of premise? It's like.
C
Yeah, so it's.
A
I'm low. I'm. I'm only debating, like, is this the worst of the bunch, or is it a little bit better than Dominion, which I had very low. It's like. It's right there. I guess I'll rank it just above Dominion. I'll go three out of ten. I had Dominion at two out of ten.
C
Yeah. But I. I think better than Dominion as well.
A
You do think it is?
C
Yeah, still just ever so slightly. I mean, look, lose the family. Oh, we're in a world where the dinosaurs are dying. You have discovered that if. If you get these three vials of blood, it will cure heart disease. Heart disease, the number one killer of people around the world. World. Every single government has said, you can't go to this island. I think every single government would be like, yeah, let's go get that. Let's put together a track team of dinosaur hunters, fly in there and get this stuff, and it's a war movie. It's like a. It's like. And. And the. The dinosaurs they're dangerous. They're genetically modified. It's a monster movie, and they're on the edge of extinction. So we gotta go now. The clock is ticking. Let's get in there. And they're down, desperate. The. The. The dinosaurs are. Are killing each other.
B
It's got two minutes. Go get them.
C
Yeah, like, go. Go get him. That's a more interesting movie to me. And I'm. I'm into that.
A
Right. So we basically have two routes. We want to go with this franchise, what you're saying, which is interesting, but that's not a kids movie. Or if we're gonna stay with the kids theme of everything, get silly or get, like, poking fun of yourself. Just go overboard with that.
C
Yeah. And.
A
And, yeah. Does anybody have a good idea for the next one that inevitably will be coming? Like, what is there, in all honesty, like, what is there sort of left to do here?
B
That's a tough one.
D
Fake nature documentary. What's the T. Rex up to all day? Sometimes it's sleeping, rolling around. Be like a cute movie.
A
Okay, sure, sure. Bad ideas. All right, so we are pretty low on. On this. I. I know we disagreed on some of them, but I will present just for, you know, one list here, how I rank these seven movies. And I know you guys had Jurassic park at the top 10 out of 10. Yeah, it was basically a perfect movie. So Jurassic park, The original from 93, at the top of the list. I was a fan of Jurassic World when they rebooted the whole thing. I thought it was pretty good. Then I have Jurassic Park 3. 3. Then I got Fallen Kingdom. Then I got the Lost World, which is Jurassic Park 2. I was not high on that one. And then Rebirth and Dominion at the bottom of my list. So that's how I have it. Again, we don't all agree on the exact order. For the most part, we were in the general ballpark with some of these, but that's where I'm at with these. What an experience. Yeah. I'm definitely done with dinosaurs for a while.
D
What about they will make another one? It won't be 2026 probably, but, like, no, 2027. You'll forget what it was like watching seven of them in quick succession. You'll be in on the next one.
A
I will. Because of Jurassic Pals and the camaraderie of us talking. Yeah. I will be in. And I'll probably go to the movie. Oh, yeah.
B
Watching the theater.
A
Yes.
B
Number one.
A
Because unlike you guys, I mean, I'll. I. I'll be honest. I think I only saw Jurassic park, the original, in the movie theater. I don't think I saw anything else after that in the theater. So yes, I will be there. Trey. Excellent. I don't know about opening night, but.
D
No, see, see it a month after at noon. That's the time you see it. When you get just only your reactions. Nobody else reacting to anything. Just pure.
A
Okay. Do you think they'll stick with Scarlet Johansson and Ali? Like you think so?
C
Yeah, one of them. Well, there's a reason they kept Maher alive, right? Like he's bankable Scarlet. Yeah, of course. It was Scarlett Johansson. Yes, yes, they will both be back.
A
Well, give them something to do at least.
C
Next time.
A
Next movie?
C
Yeah.
A
Could have been anybody in these rooms, really. Like you didn't do a lot both them, but. All right. Well, I guess we'll wait for a couple years till our next Jurassic Pals. What's it going to be called?
D
Well, we just were reborn, so I don't know. Re extinct. We're killing them all.
A
Oh, now we gotta go kill them.
D
How about that straight up poaching movie where you're trying to come back with as much dino scalps as you possibly can?
B
Yeah.
A
All right.
D
Rolling Tembos out there.
C
Yeah, Clever girl.
A
Jurassic World. Tembo style.
D
The Tembo Tournament. I like it actually. It's sounds good. That one sounds like a made for.
A
TV movie I'd be in.
D
My last note on Jurassic Pals. My father in law came to visit recently and he shaves his face. And literally he uses Barbasol. And I saw a Barbasol can sitting in my house. Didn't know it was there. And my heart skipped a beat like I was seeing a celebrity. Was like, that's the Barbasol can. Tried unscrewing the bottom.
C
You did, you did.
A
Doesn't work.
D
I definitely touched it, tested it. I was like, I wonder if you could even do this. No, it doesn't work. Smartly, but I've never been so excited to see shaving cream in my life.
A
Ah, you popped.
D
I. I was like, what? I thought it was a joke. Like, did Laura bring this and set it down here? No, people. It's still out there.
B
It's still out there.
D
Yeah, still out there.
B
I see it at the gym, all on the counter. Has it been there for 30 years? People still use that.
D
Send us your Barbasol picks. I want to see your cream.
A
Jurassic World. Dwayne Shanes. There we go. We got our next title. All right, let's call it there. Thank you so much. If you've enjoyed Jurassic Pals please hit the like button. Please subscribe. No dunks obviously we got the basketball content gearing up coming quickly here as we get into October right around the corner. So make sure you share the show and yeah let us know what I guess next movie franchise we should do. Maybe we'll have to set up a tournament or something like that. I know there's been votes for like Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Twilight should be insane us talking about Twilight.
D
We need a mix of like actiony movies and more fantasy style movies. I think it's a good idea. Yeah yeah yeah we can't do them Marvel too many.
A
Too many. No too many. And we like the sort of dumber sillier the better for these I feel like too. But let's hear from you. All right until the next Jurassic Pals. Thanks for joining us and remember life finds a way.
Date: September 19, 2025
Hosts: J.E. Skeets, Tas Melas, Trey Kirby, and JD
Theme: The gang sits down to watch, review, and roast the seventh and (supposedly) final entry in the Jurassic Park franchise, "Jurassic World Rebirth," wrapping up their summer "Jurassic Pals" movie review series.
In this concluding episode of the Jurassic Pals series, the No Dunks team reviews "Jurassic World Rebirth," the latest and possibly last installment in the Jurassic Park movie saga. The crew dives into the film's plot, cast, notable scenes (good, bad, ridiculous), and how it stacks up against its predecessors—while riffing with their trademark blend of NBA wit and moviegoer snark. Recurring themes include dino fatigue, silly plot devices, and some classic No Dunks camaraderie.
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On the Snickers Incident:
"It’s not a dinosaur. It’s a mutant. It’s a monster. Sort of an alien." – Skeets, 07:08
"How much did Snickers get paid for just a wrapper... three, four times over and over again as it fell?" – Tas, 08:35
On Motivation & Money:
“10 with six zeros – not including the 10.” – Martin Krebs (to Zora), 13:52
“It’s a big time difference in money.” – Trey (on contract confusion), 14:32
On the Movie's Family:
"New leaderboard for the worst parents in the franchise—sorry, Reuben, you’re number one." – JD, 30:04
On Franchise Diminishing Returns:
“Suckling at [John Williams’s theme] for seven movies now." – JD, 46:05
"As a movie, it's a four out of ten. In like the second hour of this, I started thinking of it as a parody." – Trey, 91:12
On Character Deaths:
"In the credits, it should just read: Food one, food two, food three..." – JD, 23:29
On Franchise Future:
"How many more times can we do this sort of premise?" – Skeets, 94:22
"We want to go with this franchise, but that's not a kids' movie. Or... get silly, poke fun at yourself, go overboard." – Skeets, 95:58
Clearly dino-fatigued yet as playful as ever, the hosts roast the movie’s contrivances, vent about franchise overkill, and riff with NBA and pop culture humor throughout. Their banter—on Snickers, mutant dinos, and shirtless boyfriends—delivers the blend of irreverence and nostalgia that’s become their hallmark, even as they wave goodbye (for now) to Jurassic Pals.
Listeners are encouraged to vote for which movie franchise the crew should tackle next (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Twilight, etc). "The dumber, sillier, the better for these..."
Classic last words:
"Thanks for joining us, and remember: Life finds a way."