Mavs Fire Nico Harrison & A Crazy NBA Night with Jason Concepcion

Summary

No Dunks Podcast Summary

Episode: Mavs Fire Nico Harrison & A Crazy NBA Night with Jason Concepcion
Date: November 11, 2025
Host: Trey Kirby (w/ Tas Melas & JD)
Guest: Jason Concepcion

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Episode Theme and Overview

This episode dives into a wild night across the NBA, with dramatic overtime finishes, emerging team identities, and the sudden, headline-making firing of Dallas Mavericks GM Nico Harrison. The No Dunks crew, joined by regular guest Jason Concepcion, breaks down the night's madness, from on-court heroics to front-office shakeups, and offers their unfiltered takes on the NBA landscape, Survivor 49, and more.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Overflowing NBA Action: Too Many Exciting Games?

• [02:02] Jason Concepcion: "Basketball was almost too bountiful last night… I try to drill down on like two games a night and all of a sudden it became clear that that's not gonna work."
• The panel jokes about "suffering" through so many good games, highlighting the chaos of trying to keep up as overtimes and close finishes overlapped.

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2. Heat vs. Cavs: Are Miami's Fast-Paced Ways for Real?

• [04:39] Trey Kirby: "I'm trying not to… I do very much want to call the Heat frauds. But… they're playing so fast, so they're doing it against good teams."
• [03:40] Jason Concepcion: "I actually do believe in it… Eric Spolster, obviously best coach in the NBA… they’re doing it in a way where their defense is coming along with it…"
• Miami’s uptempo offense and continuity, backed by Spoelstra’s coaching, impress both Jason and Tas, though Trey expresses his typical Heat skepticism, ultimately forced to buy in.

Notable Moment [06:57]: A Heat buzzer-beating alley-oop for the win, with Spolstra revealing assistant Chris Quinn had drawn up the play—showcasing organizational depth and innovation.

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3. Cavs’ Legitimacy & Eastern Conference Outlook

• [07:57] Jason Concepcion: "The Cavs are obviously a threat in the east… Mitchell has been ridiculous, ridiculous in this early part of the season."
• The crew agrees the Cavaliers are a serious threat behind Donovan Mitchell’s stellar play and Mobley's growing role. Darius Garland’s injury may be a blessing in disguise, shifting more responsibility to Mobley.

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4. Knicks’ Chemistry & Enemy Rankings

• [11:42] Jason Concepcion: "Mike Brown wants them to make quick decisions… Jalen Brunson's assists are ticking up…"
• Jason details the Knicks' improved ball movement and evolving depth, making them quietly dangerous.
• The Knicks have cultivated rivalries with the Cavs, Bucks, Heat, and Pistons—a running joke about New York's long list of “enemies.”

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5. Pistons’ Grit and Cade Cunningham’s Kobe-esque Night

• [14:12] Jason Concepcion: "A team gritting out a win, this was my game of the night… Cade Cunningham is taking 30 shots and there's four minutes left in the third quarter…"
• [15:27] Tas Melas: "That's the first time that someone's missed 30 shots in an NBA game since Kobe in '02…"
• Cade drops 46 points on 45 shots, dragging Detroit to an OT win. Both Jason and Tas are awed by the Pistons’ toughness and Cade’s relentless, if inefficient, hero ball—likened to Kobe Bryant’s historic high-usage nights.
• [16:45] Jason Concepcion: "You can't out hard them… they have a ton of guys who just play harder than everybody else… a scary team on the rise."

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6. Wizards’ Young Talent, but Missing a Star

• [21:31] Trey Kirby: "They have all of the role pieces, they just don't have the main piece yet."
• Jason and Trey see hope in Washington’s young supporting cast (Bub Sar, Kispert, Keyshawn George) but agree that a true star is needed for a real turnaround.

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7. Dallas Mavericks Fire GM Nico Harrison: Post-Luka Fallout

• [24:16] Jason Concepcion: "I've never seen this where they've given us like a time of execution. Like we know when to tune in to watch a guy get fired."
• The panel reacts to live reports that Dallas will fire GM Nico Harrison at a precisely scheduled meeting—unmasked frustration from the fanbase after a disastrous run since the team’s big trade.
• [27:14] Jason Concepcion: "It's. It's a historical disaster, like a history making sports disaster… they have never stopped ruing the trade… it's not going to be over anytime soon."
• The gang recounts the Mavericks' transformation from finals contender to “smoking crater,” with fans unrelenting in their pain over the Anthony Davis trade. The segment is laced with sharp humor but a sense of genuine sports tragedy.
• [34:04] Jason Concepcion: "You don't have time to assemble pieces… it's a disaster. It's crazy what a disaster it is. It's insane."
• They speculate that Anthony Davis could be traded next, and Jason advocates for a Cooper Flag–centered rebuild.

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8. Rapid-Fire Reactions: Other Standout NBA Performances

• Desmond Bane hits a 27-footer buzzer-beater: [35:28]
• Wemby ("Victor Wembanyama") torching the Bulls:
  • [37:29] Jason Concepcion: "It's absurd what we're seeing… when a 7-foot-5 guy pulls up in your face, what are you going to do?"
  • His MVP candidacy is now serious business; his defense and shot-blocking are otherworldly.
• Grayson Allen scores 42: [40:57] Largely overlooked amid the chaos.

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9. NBA Cup & Broadcast Banter

• Cup is “semi” respected—Jason would adore the Knicks winning it, though he thinks the timing could be better.
  • [41:26] Jason Concepcion: "I'm having fun… I do respect it."
• The show closes with a humorous “Say What” segment, re-enacting wacky NBA broadcaster exchanges, including talk of spillage vs. shrinkage, and shirts vs. skins—showing the playful spirit of "No Dunks."

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• "Basketball was almost too bountiful last night." – Jason Concepcion [02:02]
• "They empower everybody, not just their players, but also their assistant coaches." – Trey Kirby on Spoelstra & the Heat [07:16]
• "The Cavs are obviously a threat in the east… Mitchell has been ridiculous." – Jason Concepcion [07:57]
• "It's a historical disaster, like a history making sports disaster." – Jason Concepcion on the Mavs’ downfall [27:14]
• "He's a stud. He's so good." – Tas Melas on Donovan Mitchell [08:42]
• "You can't out hard them and they're not going to stop." – Jason Concepcion, describing the Pistons [16:45]
• "It's absurd what we're seeing… What can you do when a 7-foot-5 guy pulls up in your face?" – Jason Concepcion on Wemby [37:29]
• "I would expect clear the decks and let's rebuild around Cooper Flag." – Jason Concepcion, predicting the Mavericks' direction [34:40]
• "I'm having fun… I do respect it." – Jason Concepcion on the NBA Cup [41:26]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:02] — Overwhelming NBA "bounty" of games
• [03:27] — Heat vs. Cavaliers OT drama
• [04:39] — Debates over Miami's legitimacy
• [07:57] — Cavaliers’ place in the Eastern Conference
• [11:42] — State of the Knicks, Mike Brown’s offensive tweaks
• [13:37] — Transition to Pistons’ OT win and Cade Cunningham’s 45-shot night
• [24:16] — Breaking news: Mavs firing Nico Harrison
• [29:28] — The fan/fandom fallout in Dallas
• [31:50] — Cooper Flag’s star turn (and Mavs’ fleeting hope)
• [34:04] — Analysis of the Mavericks’ disaster and speculation on an Anthony Davis trade
• [37:29] — Wemby’s MVP-level dominance over the Bulls
• [41:26] — NBA Cup talk: Jason’s honest assessment

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Overall Tone

The episode is lively, irreverent, and basketball-obsessed. Trey, Tas, and JD’s rapport keeps the energy high, while Jason Concepcion matches the group with humor, informed analysis, and the occasional Knicks-centric digression. The show balances serious analysis of on-court developments and team strategy with (often elaborate) jokes, tangents, and “enemy” lists, reflecting the tone loyal No Dunks listeners expect.

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Final Thoughts

This episode captures the peak of regular-season NBA chaos: unpredictable games, coaching and management drama, and an endless churn of storylines for basketball obsessives to feast on. The sudden firing of Nico Harrison might have been the headline, but through buzzer-beaters, individual brilliance, and unfettered roundtable candor, No Dunks delivers the night in all its messy, entertaining glory.

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For those who missed it:
Expect to be caught up on all major NBA happenings of the night, get a sense of league-wide moods and tensions, enjoy plenty of hot takes, and be reminded why basketball is “quite good.”

Transcript

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[Trey Kirby]

Ayo and welcome to no Dunks presented by fanduel. I'm your host for today, Trey Kirby. And joining me here in the factory, it's Tas Melas.

[Jason Concepcion]

Hi.

[Tas Melas]

Basketball, you were good yesterday.

[Trey Kirby]

Basketball, quite good yesterday. We got the man making the magic happen over there behind the boards. It's J.D.

[JD]

Hello.

[Tas Melas]

What's up JD?

[Trey Kirby]

Hello to you. No Skeets today, but we do have a very special guest, perhaps our most frequent guest. When you factor in no buffs, you know him from everything. It's Jason Concepcion. What's up, big dog?

[Jason Concepcion]

Great to be here. Basketball was almost too bountiful last night.

[Trey Kirby]

That was going to be my first question for you. Were there too many exciting games last night?

[Jason Concepcion]

Too many exciting games. I was. I try to drill down. I'll watch in multi view occasionally, you know, just kind of get a feel for what's going on. But I try to drill down on like two games a night and all of a sudden it became clear that that's not gonna. That wasn't gonna work last night. You have to really drill down on multiple games. It was crazy.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jason Concepcion]

Crazy night.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Over time I felt like was kind of becoming a scourge to the NBA. Last night I couldn't switch over to other games when they were close because like, okay, I gotta see what's ending up here with Wizards Pistons before I can turn over to Cavs, Heat before I can turn over to see Wemby just destroy the Chicago Bulls. It was a bummer to be able to have to watch all this basketball to keep track of all these things, but we'll start in Miami. Heat got a midi from Jaime Ha Jr. Late in the fourth quarter. Forced overtime against the Cavaliers. And overtime it looked like Miami had Cleveland beat until Donovan Mitchell grabbed an offensive rebound, hit an amazing three from the corner, tie things up with 0.4 seconds left. Just enough time for the Heat to run a beauty sideline out of bounds, play for an alley oop to Andrew Wiggins for a buzzer beating dunk. You think this was the game of the night, Jason? Kind of hard to tell.

[Jason Concepcion]

I don't think it's the game of the night, but I think it's an incredible game. It's first of all, Miami Heat. What? What's going on, guys?

[Trey Kirby]

What is going on? Do you believe in it? Do you believe in these Miami?

[Jason Concepcion]

I actually do believe in it because a lot of continuity on that team. Eric Spolster, obviously best coach in the NBA, potentially best active coach. And the strategy of just amping the pace. Yeah, amping, amping it way up.

[Trey Kirby]

It was mad amped.

[Jason Concepcion]

Seems very repeatable. Early on I was like, can this, you know, can this really work? But it's, they're doing it in a way where their defense is coming along with it, their offense is, is feasting on the extra possessions and they're just kind of blitzing teams. Like it's in the regular season. Teams aren't going to be ready for it. And certainly while it's a talking point, you can tell at times where teams are just like, whoa, okay, we're, we're still running, we're still going. We're still going. Incredible. I do believe in it a little bit. Do you guys believe in it?

[Trey Kirby]

I'm trying not to. If I'm being honest with you, I really, I do very much want to call the Heat frauds. But they had a great performance against the Trailblazers. A good defense. They took it to the Cavs last night, put up. What'd they end up scoring? 140 in overtime. But still they were scoring Very regularly. And like you're saying, they're playing so fast, so they're doing it against good teams. Unfortunately, I have to buy in at this point. What do you think?

[Tas Melas]

Test now I'm buying in. I think it's smart because they come at you so many different ways. A guy can come off the bench like Jaime Hawke is and just have that single role. You mentioned him, the way he's able to start possessions with that Beeline gets into a spin and scores. And so that's his role. That's what you got to do. We're not even going to mention a bunch of great scorers. I think last night, like Norman Powell, what a steal that was in the offseason. The guy dropped 33 yesterday. No big deal. But I think he's good enough to do that. I think Davion Mitchell is underrated as their starting point guard just to get him into stuff. So yeah, I'm buying it. Although I was confused by Sam Merrill being on the floor guarding Andrew Wiggins. I know we're getting into the nitty gritty, but Andrew Wiggins gets behind Sam Merril. What up with that? You got Lonzo Ball sitting on the floor, sitting on the bench. Excuse me. Why not? Kenny Atkinson also was ejected from this game. So maybe, maybe that's why Johnny Bryant, I think who's the associate coach who's running things there was the guy calling for Sam Merrill to stay on the floor, I'm assuming. Cause he also called the timeout when Evan Mobley hit a three to tie this thing in overtime. But they called the timeout right before it. So I'm blaming Johnny Bryant for that one as well.

[Trey Kirby]

Johnny.

[Tas Melas]

And so they got to go to the free throw line. But anyways, it was. It was madness last night in the NBA. I was trying the multi view as you said, Jason, but it was too hectic to even to even do that. Yeah, it was way too. I had to. I zoned in. I drilled down like you did.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. If you want to get nitty gritty, why are you not guarding the rim with 0.4 seconds left? That's not even very nitty. I don't think that one. That seems pretty obvious.

[Jason Concepcion]

That's kind of the only place you could really go.

[Tas Melas]

I know Sam. I bet Sam wouldn't. Any other person wouldn't have got caught just hanging out at the free throw line. Sam just literally. I mean, he's still frozen, I think like he was just literally frozen when he got that back pick. It was a good call. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, it was a beautiful play. I think afterwards, Spolstra gave Chris Quinn the credit, said, we've had this play ready for four years. They didn't even have Andrew Wiggins four years ago, so obviously it was for Jimmy Butler way back when. But they said Chris Quinn came up with it. So we let him diagram it.

[Tas Melas]

And wow.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, a perfect pass from yo.

[Jason Concepcion]

What a quote as well.

[Trey Kirby]

And if you want to get a quote from Spo. Yeah, exactly. That's why. That's why he's one of the best, man. He empowers everybody, not just his players, but also his assistant coaches. Kenny Atkinson, you should be doing the same with Johnny Bryant. Hold Johnny Bryant to a higher standard. Say, put a taller guy at the rim, put a taller guy at the inbounds position. Either of those and the Cavs probably win this game. But the other side of things, four straight wins for Cleveland before last night's loss. Do you buy that the Cavs are actually a threat in the Eastern Conference? Cause look, Jason, we know you're a Knicks fan. These are two teams that could be button heads. How you feel about these Cavs.

[Jason Concepcion]

The Cavs are obviously a threat in the east, the kind of decimated and discombobulated east where it's unclear, you know, after, say, top three, like, who's really going to emerge in what position. But Mitchell has been ridiculous, ridiculous in this early part of the season.

[Tas Melas]

And.

[Jason Concepcion]

And they just like have. They have the continuity. They have a good coach. They know how they play. Mobley's getting, despite early season wobbles is getting better and better. And they're. They're a very good team. They're a very good team. Very dangerous with just can explode on you in a second. And Mitchell is a stud.

[Trey Kirby]

He's a stud.

[Jason Concepcion]

He's so good.

[Tas Melas]

He is a stud. I think that guy that you mentioned, Evan Mobley, as he's getting better here is the key to this team. He. He needs to be relied on way more.

[Trey Kirby]

They.

[Tas Melas]

They've got to go to him more. He looked good in the end of these four quarters. He was awesome hitting that three in the block. But it's all up to using him. And in those clutch situations. Now, Darius Garland got hurt in this game. Left came back and he left again. It's that toe injury that he had surgery on. It seems like that same thing that's going on. Is that the factor at this point? I don't think it's that important. I think it could be a bit of a blessing. Give Mobley the ball. I think he needs it more in crunch time.

[Jason Concepcion]

I agree. Give Mobley the ball more. He's certainly showing that he's got more more tools that he can go to to score on a consistent basis. Especially like in the midi area. I will say and you mentioned it with Garland coming in and out, guys playing big minutes in an overtime game. Obviously the Knicks don't have tibs anymore. But one of the kind of undercurrents that I really enjoyed particularly last night was just seeing the enemies of the Knicks play a lot of minutes. Play a lot of guys a lot of minutes. Cade Cunningham on the second night of a back to back going going out there Tibbs style. I enjoyed it and it listen, the regular season is attritional.

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[Jason Concepcion]

And I hope it attrits the other teams a lot.

[Trey Kirby]

You're getting into the attriti gritty. Who else do you consider enemies of the Knicks right now?

[Jason Concepcion]

The Cavaliers are enemies of the Knicks.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Jason Concepcion]

The, the, the Bucks are the enemies of the Knicks. The Heat are enemies of the Knicks. The Detroit Pistons, who you know, played us, played one of the, one of our. Really gave us like a signature playoff performance last year and are looking really dangerous, really good behind Cade Cunningham. Taking a leap. They are, they are an enemy with the Knicks and man did they what a game they had last night as well.

[Trey Kirby]

They've got a lot of enemies. Probably because they're the most despicable team in the history of the NBA. Would be the reason I list them.

[Jason Concepcion]

How about the Bulls? The Bulls are enemies now. They've shown themselves this season to be at enemy level.

[Trey Kirby]

It's so nice to be back at enemy level. One and one on the season. We'll see how it transpires for the rest of the how are you feeling about your Knicks? Mike Brown coming in? The offense is humming kind of right now they are playing more guys. They got Josh Hart taking naked photos behind OG Anobi and Mitch Robinson. All this weird stuff's going on. They seem to have a lot of chemistry together.

[Jason Concepcion]

Yeah, it's good. You can feel it kind of coming together. Mike Brown wants them to make quick decisions, kind of move the ball within the first second and a half, two seconds of getting in and it appears to be working. Jalen Brunson's assists are ticking up and the whole team feels like it's beginning to kind of like understand where they can get their shots and the flow of it. You mentioned Josh Hart, who's six man is kind of the perfect role for him.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jason Concepcion]

As much as Tom Thibodeau loved just having him out there, he's currently out there with nerve damage, but playing through it and hitting shots and doing all the little things in the perfect amount of minutes. I feel for his effectiveness. And you mentioned it. You need depth to really go deep into the season, into the post season and really kind of make an impact. And the Knicks are steadily figuring out which guys can contribute on that level. And it's good. It's been heartening. Four wins in a row last the Nets. Not a team that you should crow about beating, but I'll do it anyway.

[Trey Kirby]

Hardly an enemy.

[Jason Concepcion]

Yeah, not an enemy. But you enjoy beating them. I certainly enjoy beating them, as I feel like in my head they are. It wasn't that long ago that that players were like, I want to go to New York, but not the Knicks and let's go to New Jersey. Excuse me, let's go to Brooklyn and to beat them. It still feels good. Obviously they're trying to lose, but yeah, the Knicks are beginning to gel with the kind of philosophy of Mike Brown. So you like to see that.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, it was a. I feel like a little bit of a wonky first two weeks, but now they looking good and they look like they have changed from last year. So. Good stuff from the Heat and the Cavs. You said, though maybe not the game of the night. I assume you're talking about last night's other overtime thriller as game of the night. Pistons rallied from 11 down with four minutes left in regulation to force OT on a huge corner three from Danis Jenkins. Detroit wins in overtime. Cade finishes with 46 points on 45 shots. This was your game of the night, you think, Jason?

[Jason Concepcion]

It was. Listen, I think entertainment wise, clearly he Cavaliers were better, was more entertaining. But in terms of like a team gridding out a win, this was my game of the night because I'm watching this game. And the Wizards were up by like 10 in the third quarter. And I saw flashed on the screen, Kate Cunningham 27 points, 10 of 30. And I went, wait a second. Kate Cunningham is taking 30 shots and there's four minutes left in the third quarter. Let me really drill down on this one. And just a gritty, like a real grit, like we could lay down and lose this one, but Kate is just like, no, we're going to, we're going to win this game. I'm going to. I'm going to jack it up. I'm going to play 46 minutes or something. On the second night of a back to back and we're going to win this game.

[Trey Kirby]

And.

[Jason Concepcion]

And they did it. And it showed me something about this Pistons team that is like they are dogs. They're absolute dogs. Scary team. Don't like them. They're an enemy. But really impressed by their players.

[Tas Melas]

You gotta be impressed by their players. As Trey mentioned, Dennis Jenkins, who I called Janice Denkins last week by mistake, hit that shot. And that's why Cade was taking so many shots. Ended up taking 45 shots in this game and everybody going to the. Whoa. That's the first time that someone's missed 30 shots in an NBA game since Kobe in 02, because Kate ended up 14 of 45. But you gotta be that type of person to take that many shots. That's how hard it is to take that many shots. And he had to. Not because he did. Not because Dennis Janis was playing, but because he's also starting with Javante Green. Ron Holland with so many guys out, Sar Thompson took a seat. But yeah, that's why it was almost admirable to see the way Cade played. He was. It was Kobe like, I mean, they, they have a bunch of dogs. They have that mentality. And so they are an enemy of the Knicks. I said yesterday, Jason, I wanted to see them play each other, Pistons, Knicks, in an NBA cup game because I thought that would be a fun rematch of last year. Unfortunately, it's not happening until March. But the Knicks have to be a little concerned with this team in the way they play.

[Jason Concepcion]

Yeah, they match up really well against the Knicks. They are extremely physical. They have the guys to just make Jalen Brunson's life a living hell. And they don't. They, they remind me of the Knicks from a couple of seasons ago where they have a ton of guys who just play harder than, than everybody else. You can't out hard them and they're not going to stop. You mentioned Cade. I mean, he had no legs. No leg. Like very clearly no legs. There's a reason why he had to take 45 shots is because he was missing everything.

[Tas Melas]

But he.

[Jason Concepcion]

I mean, you mentioned the kind of like lack of scoring. But during was good. Javante Green was good. Was okay. But like not guys that you're like, okay, give them the rock and let Cade take a break. And he just needed to keep digging, digging, digging, digging, digging. He was like, he missed nine threes. Yeah, 18% from three. But he needed to, he needed to do that. It wasn't just like jacking it up. He needed to keep digging like that. And so With a guy like that as the backbone of your team. And you know Thompson there. Duran's gonna be good. I. They are, there's. They're a scary team on the rise.

[Tas Melas]

He usually easily could have sat out after getting injured. With four minutes left in the fourth, he went and helped out to stop a great play by Cam Whitmore. He fell to the floor and he limps off as Cam Whitmore tries to stand over him and tries to say, I just scored on you, kid. The guy's frickin injured, man. You don't gotta stand over him. And he lips off and he could have easily finished on the bench, but he comes back in to help his team that didn't have anybody. They didn't even have Caris Lavert to come in and help who was hurt. So yes, this, this team is scary. What. What Kate has grown into to lead a bunch of guys that I didn't know their names last week as a two way guy. Danis Jenkins, I can't help but say that name. It's so fun.

[Trey Kirby]

Clutch Danis. Four threes in the fourth quarter. We did call his game. College Park Skyhawks versus Motor City Cruise.

[Tas Melas]

Once upon a time he was cruising, man.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, he had monster shots in this one, including the one on the in the corner there where his like his heel is a millimeter from being out of bounds. He wasn't even expecting to catch the ball. He's just like hanging out there, chucked it over to him, knocks it down. Duncan Robinson made a big one in overtime as well, I think. Admirable from cade to take 45 shots. Like it looks ridiculous, 14 for 45. But it's like Dion Waiter said, he's like, I'd rather go over 100 than 0 for 9. Means I never stop shooting.

[Jason Concepcion]

When they flashed that 10 for 30 with legitimately four minutes to go in the third quarter, I thought that can't be right.

[Trey Kirby]

No, that's not right. That's two games combined.

[Jason Concepcion]

Cannot be right. I will say shouts to the Wizards, they have some nice pieces. I watch them too much. They'll get that second win at some point. Yeah, they will shout to CJ McCollum 42 points. But then seems to. He seems to get old very suddenly in every sing. And when this team figures out how to throw Alex Sar like good passes where he can score, they will go up a level.

[Trey Kirby]

Keyshawn George threw him a crazy alley oop at one point in this one. Just threw it over the backboard, basically.

[Jason Concepcion]

Yes. Keyshawn George knows how to shoot, does not necessarily know how to throw the best passes. And you can say that of a lot of their team. Chris Middleton, 26 minutes. That's probably the, the altitude, the top altitude of minutes for Chris Middleton for the season. But they have nice the Wizards. They are primed in my opinion with when a playmaker arrives on that team. Bub is good. Kispert is. They have a lot of guys that are like you could see being impact players on good teams one day. Kispert, Bub Sar is legitimately good. Keyshawn George, I think Trey Johnson will be good. When they gel a little bit and they get somebody like they can just like get guys the rock in their spots. I think they can have a Pistons like turnaround one day. Not today, but one day.

[Trey Kirby]

No. But that's why it's good that they're actually still losing these games. Because I'm with you. I feel like they have all of the role pieces, they just don't have the main piece yet. And once that main piece is there, everything falls into place for Washington. Because yeah, it's like if you're relying on C.J. mcCollum, it's going to work until it doesn't work. If you're relying on Chris Middleton, same sort of thing. And all the young guys are going to have their ups and their downs. But yeah, that was a, that was a fun game. It was pretty funny. We were laughing like yeah, they got Wizards pistons on Peacock tonight and then it was an awesome game. An awesome game that lasted forever and ever.

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[Trey Kirby]

We gotta move on to the Dallas Mavericks. Sham's reporting that the Mavericks and owner Patrick Dumont are expected to fire general manager Nico Harrison at 10:00am Central Time. That's 32 minutes from now. They got a meeting. Sources tell Shams and ESPN's Tim McMahon. Jason, are you surprised at all that the Mavs are saying goodbye to Nico Harrison?

[Jason Concepcion]

I have many Mavs fans of my life and the sense was you got it. Now you. Come on. You guys are historically the worst offense. I don't think they are still, but they were historically the worst offense. For a few days there they it's been a disaster and it just felt like the vibes around the team, you got to. It's got to go. I will say I've never seen this where they've given us like a time of execution. Like we know when to tune in to watch a guy get fired. I've never seen this before.

[Tas Melas]

This is unprecedented. I don't remember it either, especially for from a fairly new ownership. I thought that they were getting a bit of a leash for Nico Harrison, especially after yesterday. It felt like a moral victory the way they were playing hard against the Milwaukee Bucks. You saw incredible Cooper fly game. I thought, yeah, it was his best game. They started Brandon Williams started a point guard. Maybe they listened to no dunks. We talked about it yesterday. They needed to play a better point guard. So that's why I am surprised. That being said, from the fans perspective, oh, they wanted this firing real bad.

[Jason Concepcion]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

They're like, this is too late. Eleven games. We've waited long enough.

[Tas Melas]

Well, P.J. washington went to the line and attempt to tie the game. First free throw, he hits it. Second free throw. The arena is quiet. He misses. The fans realize, oh, we're going to lose this game. Oh, yeah, let's just do it again. Fire Nico. All of a sudden they just wanted it done. And it. It, yes. The vibes are just extremely poor. I'm just shocked it wasn't handed down to Jason Kidd to be axed even though he got an extension that the vibes around the locker room. Yeah, he is in in charge for. So that's why I thought it would be him rather than Nico.

[Jason Concepcion]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

And like the players are having to answer questions about fire Nico chants in post game afterwards. Right? Like PJ Washington was asked about it, Daniel Gafford was asked about it and they're like, yeah, you do hear it. It kind of wears on you a little bit. And that really doesn't have anything to do with them. They're not the ones who are choosing the players.

[Jason Concepcion]

So.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, but the way it went down last night, it was looking like he was going to stick around. But then they blew a lead, they blew a fourth quarter lead and literally fire Nico. Chance may have had an effect on the game and the loss with a PJ missing them at the end there, but this is just like the biggest disaster that could have possibly happened to a franchise that went to the finals what, 19 months ago at this point. Jason, what are you feeling about the Mavericks? I mean obviously this is a. Not an unexpected move, but still pretty crazy to fire your GM 11 games into the season.

[Jason Concepcion]

It's. It's a historical disaster, like a history making sports disaster. And I will say that it's a. For Mavs fans, it is the kind of. It's a story that defies like the cycle, the cycle of news. You know, usually especially during the regular season, you know, stuff happens, guys get traded, things happen. But it's like after a week or two, it's done again. I have Mavs fans in my life. They have never stopped talking about it. They have never stopped ruing the trade. They've never stopped wishing Nico would get fired. They've never stopped talking about all the ways that it's hurt team, that it's hurt them emotionally. And that is. I've never really encountered a situation like that that's unique as a Knicks fan. There's been a million things over the last two decades where you're like, oh my God, the Bargnani trade, the Melo trade, the Raven Felt and Gunn trade stuff like a million things. But after a while it's kind of over. You know, whether it's three weeks, a month, the whole half of the season, but then it's over. This is not going to be over anytime soon. Mavs fans will not stop hurting about this. Certainly the Lakers are not helping things with the way they're playing. And it's just that AB of the Lakers over kicking their apparent coverage, as you know, as they're putting together a season that's surprising. And the Dallas Mavericks just being like a smoking crater with Clay being sent to the bench, his shoulders slumped, Anthony Davis empty eyed from the sideline in street clothes looking for anybody that can give them five minutes at point guard. It's just bad.

[Trey Kirby]

It's terrible there. They're never going to give it up. I'm a Bulls fan. And they booed their GM's widow 30 years after the fact and that was after winning six championships. So I don't necessarily think Mavs fans are going to be quite forgiving. I'm sure you saw going around online last night, the 18 year old who came and sat next to Patrick Dumont and apparently his dad told him he had to apologize to Patrick Dumont for flipping him off during opening night for trading him. So that must have been a very convincing conversation from Nicholas Dickinson and Patrick Dumont. Maybe that kid gets hired as GM going forward. He's like, you got any plans, Nick?

[Tas Melas]

It is, it, is it within the fabric of every single fan in that arena, though they have not stopped talking about. Just took them one missed free throw to get back to it last night when B.J. washington missed it. It is a part of them and it's so it must be getting into Patrick Dumont's mind, culture, everything. And he is a business person. And so when they made that purchase, business was in mind. And so now for it to be, it's nearly two years later since they, they purchased the team for it to be this part of the culture. That is a huge reason as to why this is happening right now. I didn't expect it. I don't know what's going to happen at that press conference. Can you see anything that will happen at this press conference, Jason? Do you see any, any prediction here that's going to happen?

[Trey Kirby]

It is a stay in execution from the governor.

[Jason Concepcion]

I think if they have a, I think if they have some sort of like webcam in the room, camera team in the room as Nico enters, sits down and then Patrick fires him. I think that could help maybe dispel some of the demons for Mavs fans, give them some sense of closure. That's good, but I don't really see anything. And I think what's really notable too about these games, particularly last night when Cooper, you mentioned Cooper having his best game and not only his best game, but having some moves where you're like, that will be on the career Cooper flag highlight reel, like some of those spin moves down the stretch.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, big bucket on Giannis. That Was sweet.

[Jason Concepcion]

Big bucket on Giannis to tie it.

[Tas Melas]

I think Adam with 30 seconds left.

[Trey Kirby]

That was, that was beautiful.

[Jason Concepcion]

Yeah. And the way the crowd, the bipolarness because the crowd was packed house. They're going crazy for Cooper when he's. All the things he did, going crazy for the team. And then as soon as it goes bad, that passion flips. That's. Those are fans that love their team and are just extremely hurt. And I don't, again, I don't think that hurts going away anytime soon. For years and years and years.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, it's true. It's true. I, I was, I was on their side. I thought Jason get his calling, plays for Cooper. Flag. With a couple minutes left, he got a switch on Ryan Rollins. Oh, he's smaller than him.

[Jason Concepcion]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Maybe we should be running more of that stuff. And then going into the body of an all time great in Giannis de Campo with 30 seconds left, I thought, this is it. They are turning this thing around. It sure felt like they beat the Wizards on Saturday that, that this was starting to happen. But no, that was quick. And I guess Patrick Dumont had made the decision before this game against the Milwaukee Bucks that they were firing Nico Harrison. It didn't, it didn't result as a. Because of a loss.

[Trey Kirby]

There was a ton of reports yesterday from like Mark Stein, Tim McMahon, Tim Cato, Bas, everybody saying the seed is on fire right now. And then, you know, they got off to a lead and blew it. And, and then Nicholas Dickinson sat down and said, you got to go. You got to get rid of this.

[Jason Concepcion]

Not to relitigate, but it is crazy as you start to think about the details, they traded a generational guy who's at worst the fourth best player in the NBA. Worst like at worst for a injury riddled 32 year old. And that you're essentially marrying your team window to that, to that age profile, to that injury profile, pairing him with Kyrie, a guy who's also, you know, struggled with injury throughout his career. You're. You essentially turn the team into a win now team. And you're not winning now.

[Trey Kirby]

No.

[Jason Concepcion]

And you, by all appearances, you will not win. Now is now. There is $100 million on the bench. Right. That will appear soon and the team will get better. But it certainly does not seem like a team that you can look at and think, okay, we've got, you know, we can just assemble some pieces. You don't have time to assemble pieces. So. It's a disaster. It's crazy what a disaster it is. It's insane.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, literally, Patrick Dumont is like, yeah, we made a big time mistake and it was nine months ago and we're moving on. I wonder like, will they trade Anthony Davis now? Because Anthony Davis was like a Nico Harrison guy, right?

[Jason Concepcion]

Like, yeah, I think this is a precursor to a trade of Anthony Davis. Right. Because maybe Nico wasn't going to do it. I don't think there was a world in which Nico would agree to do it. So I think I, I would expect clear the decks and let's rebuild around Cooper Flag. That just makes sense to do basketball wise.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, that makes sense. Unless you're the guy who traded for Anthony Davis, in which case you can't do it. But that's that. Just unbelievable. An unbelievable 10 month run of things that have happened to the Dallas Mavericks. We had a lot more stuff in here. We can get to it really quickly. Boring regulation game. Desmond Bain hit a 27 footer. Longest buzzer beater in Magic history. Nobody cares anymore. Rough start for the Magic. But you think they can turn things around going forward here, Jason?

[Jason Concepcion]

I think they just need to figure out how to score. I mean, this is not a unique, it's not a unique take. Everything is too hard for them. If their initial action does not result in a score, then they're just kind of looking around like, how do we do this, how do we do this, how do we do this? It feels like there's a level to be unlocked and they have too much talent on that team to not be better than they are. Yes. Brighter days I would expect to head for the Magic or we might see a seat heating up over there.

[Trey Kirby]

Definitely true.

[Tas Melas]

It is so odd watching Palabuncar and how talented he is fly under the radar for sure. But he missed three free throws in the last 12 seconds of this game. And he is just not morally, physically, mentally all there. You could see him in press conferences the day before leading into this game. He's just not right. But the Magic. And shout out to Jamal Mosley, we're naming coaches, we're naming assistant coaches. But he had two timeouts saved for the end of this game. And they came in handy for Desmond Bain, who might be saving their fricking team. After throwing the ball off on Yeka Congo, he spiked it off him. And now with this game winning shot, I mean, the Blazers had an inbound alley oop with 10 seconds left in this game. That was awesome. But it's going to go under the radar. And maybe Desmond Bain helped turn this thing around for the Magic. As Jason said, they need to be able to score. And they have so much talent on that fricking team.

[Trey Kirby]

There's a lot of joy in their faces. When that Bain shot went down, I think it was his first made three of the game. But they were letting him initiate a bunch of the offense down the stretch. So maybe things change going forward. But they did basically blow a nine point lead within a minute. Yes, in the fourth quarter because it looked ugly as well. Another team that blew lead, the Chicago Bulls, they got Dom Torettoed in this one too soon. Wemby, back to back threes. Second one had Vuch stumbling and bumbling. How high on your ballot would you have Victor Wembley Wembanyama in the MVP race right now?

[Jason Concepcion]

Jay, remember like sometime last week when it was like, oh, he figured him out.

[Trey Kirby]

Yep, nine points.

[Jason Concepcion]

They figured it out and maybe not. Yeah, I would have him high up. It's absurd what we're seeing. And he had some stuff against Vuch and against, against your Bulls in general where you're just like, what can you do when a 7 foot 5 guy pulls up in your face? What are you going to do?

[Trey Kirby]

What are you going to do when.

[Jason Concepcion]

A 7 foot 5 guy does like some Steph Curry around the perimeter type, put you on skate stuff and then pulls up? I don't know what you can do about that. And that's when he had the slight dip last week. Teams are putting smalls on him, kind of meeting him earlier to try and get the ball out of his hands and make him, you know, be a playmaker. That kind of worked. Get him in foul trouble against the Lakers. That kind of worked. But the answer, and I think he unleashed the answer against your team. It was like more aggressive. Take more shots. Take more shots. Deeper to spread it out. Like, I'll be the spacemaker. And that's, it's terrifying watching him. I got to see him in person last week and it doesn't, you can't compute it, it doesn't make sense. It's crazy to watch NBA players, the tallest people on earth, react to the height of a guy. You know, just be like, whoa, look at the size of this guy. If he moves around. It's, it's unreal. I mean, what do you, what, where do you have him on your ballot?

[Trey Kirby]

Like maybe third at the lowest? Like SGA is still up there. The thunder are rolling right now. He's scoring 35 every single night. Luca is in the mix and then Wemby is right there. He's clearly the best defensive player in the league. He's got this 95 game streak right now with a block or more in a game, and it was hilarious. Some of the blocks he had against the Bulls, like Vuch snuck in a floater on him in the third quarter. So then he tried it again in the fourth quarter and Wemby blocked it to Atlanta. Pretty much. He just tossed it completely out. I also think he shoots 100% from three after he blocks a shot. Like after he blocks a shot, he's like, I'm going to take a three on the next possession. And it always goes in and he blocks a lot of shots, so it adds up. But yeah, that was. He just dominated and that's. The Bulls have lost three straight games and it's been. Donovan Mitchell dominates the fourth quarter against the Cavs. Giannis dominates the fourth quarter against the Bucks, and then Wemby last night. Turns out you have to have a superstar on your team to. To win these games. Good way to get it is drafting number one. I don't know if the Bulls are gonna get there. Anyways, that was cool to see from Wemby.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, those back to back threes that he hit with a minute left, he just said, this is mine. He just walked into one and then he made that, that dribble move as you're talking about Jason, that, like he just danced with it. All right, I'm doing it again and I think one was off the block. You're. You're totally right about just the confidence on this guy. Once he gets something going, it ain't fun. And there was that same thing. I think it was the Bulls broadcasters who were watching him stand beside Nicola Vujovic who were saying, oh my God, he is large.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, look tiny. Yeah, like a guard out there. And he's a 7 foot, 280 or whatever size he is. Hilarious.

[Tas Melas]

Very fun, very fun.

[Trey Kirby]

What else do we got? Grayson Allen scored 42 points last night. He had 10 threes. Completely, completely overlook worst timing of all time to have 42 points your career high. We had a million buzzer beaters, overtime games, classic moments. Nico Harrison fired. And Grayson Allen's just like, yeah, man, I made 10 threes. Beat create cheek. Career high 28 points. Also bad timing. Jason, we got to ask everybody, do you respect the NBA Cup Year 3 here?

[Jason Concepcion]

I'm having fun. Yeah, I'm having fun. I do respect it. I, I, not ironically would love the Knicks to win it. Starting off with a loss against your Chicago. That's a great way to do it.

[JD]

But.

[Jason Concepcion]

But I Do like it. I have some tweaks that I would love. I think it's a little too early. I think it pops up maybe two weeks too early. Let people settle into the regular season and kind of like promote, promote, promote cup and then have it pop up a little later. I feel like. But yes, I was. I semi respect it now.

[Trey Kirby]

And you'll respect a lot more if the Knicks bring it home.

[Jason Concepcion]

I 100% would respect it. Then it's legit. Then I'm like, you know what, guys, hold on. I've come around.

[Trey Kirby]

It's big time.

[Jason Concepcion]

Actually, wait a second.

[Tas Melas]

I'm having fun. That's all it's about, as Jason said. Yeah. That's what we're here for. We're here for November and December fun when watching NBA basketball and it's become more fun. Some people hate the courts. I get it. They're a little egregious. They're a little much. But we're all having fun watching November, December games.

[Trey Kirby]

I'm having fun.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Also having fun with Survivor 49. Who do you like this season, Jason?

[Jason Concepcion]

Oh, my God.

[Trey Kirby]

Wow.

[Jason Concepcion]

You know what? I don't know that there is a leader to emerge yet for me, but I will say it's been a. Whenever this is like a Survivor, tell that things that you're gonna watch an episode that maybe is not like the best episode of Survivor. Whenever something like the. The sea snake bite happens where it's like not necessarily in the flow of the game and of course the show has to cover it, but then they keep covering it like it goes, you know, they're spending way too long on something like that. That's how, you know, like, okay, not a lot happened gameplay wise, but gameplay is starting to happen now as the teams emerge. I think I'm feeling good now after last episode where you started to see machinations, people playing in a way that feels tactical and strategic. It's not just making a move to make a big move, but it's making a big move to try and do something it. I'm not a fan of three tribes. And that makes the early part of Survivor tough for me. I feel like, and it happened this season, what ends up happening is one team just gets dog walked.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jason Concepcion]

One tribe just gets dog walked. And it's not, I don't think, the most compelling kind of Survivor. I want to see more back and forth. So now that we're in a more settled state of the game, I like it. As for front runners, I don't know that I have Anybody yet? What do you guys think?

[Trey Kirby]

I like Sophie B. But that's just because I picked her preseason and she seems to be doing okay so far. But I'm with you. It doesn't feel like we have necessarily the winner edit out there yet or somebody that you think is going to absolutely be the victor, the sole survivor at the end. But you're totally right. The three tribes makes for pre merge can sometimes be a bit of a snoozer, but it's a great time to get in now we got to the merge. This is like we've moved on from the group stage of the cup to the knockout rounds. It gets a lot more exciting. Last thing I want to ask you about, Jason, tell us a little bit about Offside, your new venture.

[Jason Concepcion]

Oh, Offside is a sports and app, a social media sports app that I'm consulting for that I'm helping, you know, create along with some other creators. And the goal is to just make kind of the. To kind of unify some of the fragmented experience around following sports. You know, I think you've. We've all had that thing where it's like a game just ended and maybe you're out to dinner and you couldn't see it and so you want to see the highlights, but you got to wait for the highlights to come up and the gamer is not up and you're trying to find the stats, but they're not posted yet. And you want to. Maybe you'd love if One of your YouTube people that you follow, teamcentric YouTube people like, would put up something, but it's not up yet. How do you go one place to find all the things that you want to find out about games that just ended, about upcoming games. That's what Offsight seeks to do to make it easier for creators to create stuff and make it easier for. For fans of teams to find the stuff that they need.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. And last night was the night to do it. And the breakdown.

[Jason Concepcion]

Last night was the night.

[Trey Kirby]

Last night was the night.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Andrew Wiggins, Alley oop was broken down by mode to kill frame by frame, step by step. And that's the thing that, yeah, people need more of. I think if Alex Caruso knew of offside or if he knows of outside, he would celebrate it because he was the guy that said last year, people just need to, you know, appreciate basketball again. And that's what these plays are. That's. That's what it's about. It was fun.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. You got some great names working alongside you, too. Kofi's There mo like Tass said Anthony Irwin, I'm sure Kirk serious face. Kirk Henderson's gonna be going nuts with Nico news. Oh, yeah. He's gonna be big mad. Gonna be big mad. That's at join offside, right? Is the handle on socials. Jason, thanks so much for joining us, man. This is really fun. Good to talk hoops with you.

[Jason Concepcion]

Thank you so much for having me.

[Tas Melas]

Take it easy.

[Trey Kirby]

All right, we're gonna play a short round to say what after the break. But first, ads.

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[Tas Melas]

Back with no dunks. It was fun talking to Jason about all that ball.

[Trey Kirby]

All that ball. Breaking news. We're eight minutes from the final meeting of Nico Harrison's Dallas tenure.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, I was going to make the call. I thought about texting everybody here and saying, should we just drop? Say what? And just watch this Nico Harrison press conference live here on no dunks. I mean, we will probably be reporting on it yesterday, but first we got to get to that. Say what? Because it is a classic. No dunks. Let's get to it. Say, what is a segment where we will recite a conversation that two NBA broadcasters had, or maybe they didn't. We might be making it up. So, Trey, you are going to tell JD And I who'll be acting these out, if it's real or not. Our first one is the Pelicans. Joel Myers and Antonio Daniels. They're playing the Charlotte Hornets. In this particular scenario, I will be Joel Myers and JD Will be Antonio Daniels. Yeah, he's playing high percentage above the rim. He's got 13 points, so that's his sixth dunk. He's 5 of 6. Make it 6 of 7 overall.

[JD]

Spilled some ice on the floor.

[Tas Melas]

Spillage is better than shrinkage. Three point game. Minute 35 to play.

[JD]

Where did that come from? Where did that come from? What does that have to do with.

[Tas Melas]

I'm setting you up. I'm setting you up.

[JD]

What does that have to do with anything? It's just you've got some serious issues, man.

[Tas Melas]

Pals only down by three, and it's been a strange third quarter. They got smoke to start the third. All right, who's the guilty party over there? Those guys are having too much fun. Look at that group. Oh, man. The guys that had the spillage.

[JD]

You know what? I'm not falling for your banana in the tailpipe, Joel. I'm not falling for this. I'm not falling for this.

[Tas Melas]

Is that a Skins and Shirts game coming up?

[JD]

No, it's not. Nobody plays Shirts and skins anymore, Joel.

[Tas Melas]

50 seconds left in the third.

[JD]

You and your games with Dr. Naismith. Those games don't happen anymore, Trey, man.

[Tas Melas]

And scene. That's the end of a conversation between Joel Myers and Antonio Daniels during a Pelicans broadcast where there was some spillage or some shrinkage, depending on how you look at it. What do you think, Trey? Did that actually happen? Did it actually happen during a game?

[Trey Kirby]

Man, I. I was convinced it was real all the way up until Banana in the tailpipe, and it went into shirts and Skins as well. It's a lot. It's a lot to throw against the wall, but these guys are pretty funny together. Antonio Daniels, to me, is like. I don't know if this is fake, but he's like my favorite. Probably my favorite color guy to listen to. I just love that. I love the way he broadcasts. And he's a great combo with Joel Myers. I'll say. This one's real.

[Tas Melas]

Is it real, J.D.

[Jason Concepcion]

Is it real?

[Tas Melas]

Yes, it is real. You called It. You called the. Let's hear the actual conversation between Joel and Antonio Daniels.

[Joel Myers]

Yeah, he's playing high percentage above the rim. He's got 13 points.

[JD]

That's a six.

[Joel Myers]

Dot is five of six. Make it six is seven overall.

[Trey Kirby]

Spill some ice on the floor.

[Joel Myers]

Spillage is better than shrinkage. Three point game, man, at 35 to play.

[Jason Concepcion]

Where did that come from?

[Trey Kirby]

Where did that come from? What does that have to do.

[Odoo Advertiser]

I'm.

[Joel Myers]

I'm setting you up. I'm setting you up.

[Trey Kirby]

What does that have to do with anything?

[Joel Myers]

It's just.

[Tas Melas]

You got.

[Trey Kirby]

You got some serious issues with him.

[Joel Myers]

All right, who's the guilty party over there? Those guys are having too much fun. Look at that group. Oh, man.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, man.

[Ross Announcer]

They look.

[Jason Concepcion]

Look like they're.

[Joel Myers]

They're in the gym a lot playing pickup. Those four guys have the spillage.

[Trey Kirby]

I'm not falling for your banana and tailpipe right now, Joe. I'm not. I'm not falling for this. I am not falling for this.

[Joel Myers]

Is that a skins and shirts game coming up?

[Trey Kirby]

No, it's not. Nobody plays shirts and kins anymore, Joe.

[Joel Myers]

90 seconds left in the third.

[Trey Kirby]

You and your games with Dr. Naismith. Those games don't happen anymore.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. It is surprising when you hear about. Even though I. I edited this thing out, it was just so good. We did it, I think. Which. What played a part in you being skeptical if they jumped to the tailpipe. Banana in the tailpipe was that we cut out, like, 20 minutes in the middle. So it did jump real quickly to shirts and skins. Yes. We had to. We had to make it a little shorter. But you're right. Antonio Daniels is just on point. Joel Myers. I didn't drop into the deep voice. Joel Myers.

[Trey Kirby]

But you guys are actually perfect matches, I think, for doing a Joel Myers, Antonio Daniels booth between both your voices. They sound very, very.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Similar to. I also think Antonio Daniels is right. Nobody plays shirts and skins. I'll occasionally play a pickup gig wearing no shirt, and people hate it. Nobody wants to be near me. I'm running around there with no shirt off. I don't know why.

[JD]

Strategy, though, right?

[Trey Kirby]

It's helpful.

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[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

And you're slippery. I mean, I'm sweaty. So you just burning off. Guys. That's a good one. I thought I remembered the spillage versus shrinkage part, but no, it just keeps going.

[Tas Melas]

It did fly under the radar a little bit, thanks to Sheehan. Paris hit me up on the ig. So hit us up on. On no dunks Instagram account. Anytime you Find something that is hilarious like that. All right, our next one here and our last one. We're going to make this a quick one. This is the Hawks, Bub Rathbun and Dominique Wilkins. So this is Hawks versus Thunder. I'm Bob Rathbun. JD Is the legend. Dominique Wilkins. Two minutes left in the game. Quinn Snyder is clearing the bench. Caleb Houston making his season debut for the Hawks.

[JD]

We haven't seen him play yet, but I know. But I know he can't shoot.

[Tas Melas]

Well, that was a typo on my part. He can't shoot. That's my bio.

[JD]

It says can't shoot.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, that's my. That's my mistake.

[JD]

Let me redo it.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, okay.

[JD]

We haven't seen him play yet, but I know he can shoot.

[Tas Melas]

We'll see if Quinn Snyder can set up a three point shot for him. Nick, do coaches design plays for players in garbage time?

[JD]

I couldn't tell you, Bob. I never played in garbage time. I know he can really shoot.

[Tas Melas]

Caleb Houston joins Jacob Toppin. No typo there, thankfully. Yeah. Caleb Houston joins Jacob Toppin and folly Dante Keaton, Wallace and Veet Krechi on the floor.

[JD]

You know, Bob, I think Quinn should set him up for a shot.

[Tas Melas]

Yes, Nick, I agree. Here's Wallace, drives inside, tries to throw it up, but so many bodies around him. He's blocked. Ball is out of bounds.

[JD]

That defense really shrunk around him, Bob.

[Tas Melas]

It was shrinking quickly.

[JD]

Have you seen the show shrinking, Bob?

[Tas Melas]

Shrinking? Did you mean shrinkage?

[JD]

That's not a show, Bob.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, you're right. Brooks Barnheiser is going to the line for two.

[JD]

Barnheiser is really big.

[Tas Melas]

Nick, how's your throat? You know you can shut off your mic when you have to cough.

[JD]

The button is not working. That's why I've been holding my farts all game.

[Tas Melas]

And scene.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, man.

[Tas Melas]

Did that conversation between Bob Rathbun and Dominique Wilkins actually happen? Or were my typos and this whole script fabricated?

[Trey Kirby]

I don't know. On one hand, I believe that Dominique Wilkins could be coughing through a broadcast. You hear him clear his throat from time to time, also repeating himself about Caleb Houston. Believable to me. But would a guy like Dominique Wilkins say he's holding in his farts?

[Tas Melas]

I think yes.

[Trey Kirby]

This one's real.

[Tas Melas]

Is it real? J.D.

[Trey Kirby]

I got you with the fart.

[Tas Melas]

I was surprised. Now, I did throw in all of those throats clearing moments because Dominique has been doing that this year and we mentioned it actually on an earlier show, but then, then we Did a callback with the shrinking. Shrinkage. I thought that was a bit of a reveal.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, yeah. But like, it's the right generations, right, to be. To be referencing shrinkage. Pretty funny, the details. I. I didn't. I didn't know to expect such detailed work getting the coughs in there, because that sold me.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, Very, very funny. All right, that was our fun, fun segment here.

[Trey Kirby]

Just a quick one.

[Tas Melas]

Just a quickie.

[Jason Concepcion]

Good.

[Tas Melas]

Just quick. Yeah. Good. Works out perfectly. With all this news, we got to get to watching the Nico Harrison press conference immediately after this game. But first, let's get to our Pick them. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Another tough loss last night, Tassie. I was with you on the Bucs. They were minus two and a half point favorites. They won. The Milwaukee Bucks did win in the Nico Harrison retirement match, but they only won by two points. And if I'm being honest, yeah, Giannis had that dunk like two thirds of the way through the fourth quarter, where he missed the shot from the top, followed his shot, grabs the boards, went for a big jam and missed it. That's what I blame.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, really?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, because they had a lot of momentum right then. I feel like if he throws that down, it was maybe. It was maybe like a five point game at that point. Point that would have put him up seven, I think if. I don't know if that's exactly right, but around there, and I think if he throws down, that dunk really quiets the crowd. Maybe the Bucks go on to win this by a more significant margin than they did. It ended up being a momentum play the other way for the Mavericks. The. The fire. Nico chance got to PJ Washington.

[Tas Melas]

That 2 1/2 point line was ridiculous. Only covered by a weird PJ Washington foul. In going to the free throw line to hit that extra free throw, it shouldn't have even been a foul. That's why this line, it. It swung a little bit. We had it written as a closer line than two points, but yeah, when Giannis is scoring 15 of the third of his 30 points in the fourth quarter, I thought it was over. Here they come. They were rolling, but the Mavs, this was honestly. I know it was a loss, but it felt like the best game the season. I thought Nico would get another day, but nope, it's all over. So we got a big line tonight.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, really big line.

[Tas Melas]

We don't use these quite often. Thunder at home to the Golden State warriors have a seven and a half point favorite. And I guess I'm going to continue my terrible month I'm taking the warriors thinking that they'll keep it close. Steph Curry definitely planning on being back finally after that illness to play the Thunder, who I assume will just keep them somewhat close. The warriors will keep them somewhat close in a seven point game, but you guys feel the Thunder. You and Skeets are taking the Thunder to win by eight more.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, Thunder have started winning some games by big margins lately, and the warriors are looking a little rickety to me. They haven't had a very good win in like the past couple of years, couple of weeks. First week of the season was their biggest week so far in my book. But that just kind of means they need to perform. So we'll see. We'll see what we get from Golden State, But I'm confident OKC can win this by 10 points or whatever. They only need to win by 8 for a win for me and Skeets. We're both at 4 and 2, tacit 0 and 6 right now.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, baby.

[Trey Kirby]

It's still. It's still early, man. It's only the second week and a half into the pickup right now. Yeah, I still think there's time to come back.

[Tas Melas]

Thanks.

[Trey Kirby]

Hey, man, you're welcome. You're welcome. We got the full squad back in the factory tomorrow. Gonna be another busy Wednesday. No dunks. 10:00am Eastern. Bulls are back on playback. 3:00pm Eastern. And we got Survivor tomorrow night.

[Tas Melas]

Yep. Yeah, we'll be jumping on playback tomorrow night too.

[Trey Kirby]

Right.

[Tas Melas]

For a little bit of fun. Because there's some great games. There's a playback organized. Hey, let's make games accessible and affordable going on tomorrow night. So we'll get to that as well.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, yeah, it's a. It's their big day. I forget what they called it, but it's a big day.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, I forgot to get the.

[Trey Kirby]

Get the games out. That's what the people are saying. Get the games out. Five straight losses for the Clippers. Can you believe after the loss of the Hawks last night. Nonetheless, Clipper Bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome.

[Tas Melas]

Thanks for joining us. And remember, fortune favors the bold. In the words of Nico Harrison, sometimes. Sometimes. I guess that's true, Nico. Sometimes fortune does not favor the bold. Unfortunately for Nico.

[Trey Kirby]

Unfortunately. Embrace the day, people.

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