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J. Skeets
Good morning sweet world and welcome to the no Dunks podcast presented by FanDuel. Tuesday, November 4, 2025. I'm J. Skeets here in the classic factory and alongside me, as always, from out under the desk, it's Tas Melas.
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Tas Melas
I like sitting in a chair.
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J. Skeets
How's your back feeling?
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Kofi Yoboa
Fine.
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Tas Melas
Totally fine. People were worried about the bow, everything. They're all good. Good.
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J. Skeets
Next to him, it's my top shot hot boy. It's Trey Kirby. And over yonder making the magic happen, super producer JD Hello. There he is. And we have special guest today. If you're online, you've seen him, you've heard him. He was a longtime engagement editor for Vox SB Nation Secret Base and now he's kicking ass in the sports content space on his own. It's Kofi Yoboa. Kofi, good morning to you. What's up man?
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Kofi Yoboa
Morning. Good morning. How are you guys doing?
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J. Skeets
We are great. Pumped that you rolled out of bed and jumped on with us because you are on the west coast so it's mad early for you.
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Kofi Yoboa
I am. I will never get used to this. I will never get used to the west coast time. I've been here for three years. Every time I'm like, wow, it's like the games are ending and still, like, there's still stuff to do.
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J. Skeets
Live your life. That's, that's interesting. So you're, you're actually not a fan of west coast sports viewing? Because the people that live out there are like, it's the best. What's wrong with you? You east coast people, you're crazy.
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Kofi Yoboa
I am a fan, but I am a night owl, so I think for basketball, it's perfect. But for like, you know, college football, I might, I might mess around and miss the entire first slate, you know, sometimes. So it has, it has his here's. And there's, you know.
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J. Skeets
Fair enough. Fair enough. Well, we're excited to finally have you on no dunks. We got lots to talk about. We're going to get into your red hot Detroit Pistons, who are on fire to start the season. But I saw that last night. You were definitely on Twitch. You were livestreaming when Giannis hit a fade away buzzer beating jumper to give The Bucks the 117, 115 victory over the Pacers last night. You sort of were in awe on the live stream. And then you were like talking about how much you love this rivalry between the two teams.
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Kofi Yoboa
I just love the history, like, the history and the lore. Even if the last couple of seasons where they had, they had the argument over the game ball thing, I got 60. And the Pacers are like, nah, this is, this is our guy's first point. It's the funniest. It's one of the funniest things. And then, you know, of course you had the last year's playoff series where Giannis and Tyrese's dad. And then you have, now you have Miles Turner going over to the dark side. For many Pacers fans, right. I think there's just. I love when NBAs do have rivalries and they have bullet points that are really recent, not just historic. So Deanna's hitting that shot and then doing the double thumbs down.
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Trey Kirby
Priceless.
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Kofi Yoboa
That's great. That's great work.
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Tas Melas
I love that incredible brother trying to clean up his thumbs. His brother was there. Thanasis was flipping those hands. I was like, those are, those aren't cool.
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J. Skeets
He was like, relax, bro. I think, I think he was trying to like police him or like parrot him a little bit. Yeah, that's how I read it. I don't know about you, Kofi. How did you take his brother saying, hey, that's enough. Thumbs down, hands?
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Kofi Yoboa
I think that's, you know, Giannis being, like, in the heat of the moment, and then his brother has, like. Who's been, like, on the sidelines, who's probably been listening to everything that the fans have been saying a little bit more intently. He's probably like, let's get out of here.
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J. Skeets
Maybe. What did you think of the Indiana fans booing Miles Turner during the tribute video? Was that shocking to you? He seemed pretty heartbroken over it, but what was your take on that?
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Kofi Yoboa
It's sad, but I'm really not surprised, because I think one of the biggest things as a fan, you see your longtime hero go to basically one of the teams that you despise the most, even though it's one of those things where, yes, the. The Pacers were not gonna pay Miles Turner the money he wanted. Right. So it's one of those things where Miles, like, I'm gonna go where I wanted. But then again, it's the, like, one place I feel like, for the Pacers, I feel like it would be Pacers or Pistons. Miles Turner went there, and it was be like, okay, what's going on? So I understand the fans being, like, super upset, but then Miles Turner being hurt because he, like, hurt by it because he gave them so many years and so many seasons, is also a hundred percent valid.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, Yeah, I think that's true. And he did say stuff right on his way to Milwaukee. Now, I think he got, like, aggregated a little bit, I think, in full context on these podcasts and things he was saying about the fan base in Indiana and his time with the team. Like, if you didn't sit down and listen to the whole thing and you just see the clip, it's like, oh, I think if you're a Pacers fan, Trey, you're like, God damn. Come on, man.
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Trey Kirby
We were.
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J. Skeets
We were ride or die with you. And then that was maybe a part of the whole booze. That's my guess.
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Tas Melas
At least.
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Trey Kirby
I think that's exactly it. Unfortunately, this is transpiring between Myles Turner and the fans in Indiana, when really it was an ownership decision to not pay him what he thought he was worth. Now, it was a Miles Turner decision to sign with the rivals of the Pacers. So that's interesting. But he did, like, the closing the book thing when they were showing his trivia video, he's like, I'm done with this. He says, I've been dealing with constant disdain while he was there, and the guy was in trade rumors.
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J. Skeets
Yeah.
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Trey Kirby
Basically the entirety of his 10 seasons in Indiana. So I don't know, it's just going to take, what, probably 10 years until they all sweep this under the rug. It's like when Ray Allen left the Boston Celtics, and the one team you can't sign with is the Miami Heat. Who do you sign with? The Miami Heat. This is, I guess, a little bit probably a step below Ray Allen, but still, you can understand the feelings from both perspectives. But I don't know, they offered to pay him more money, so.
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J. Skeets
Yeah.
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Trey Kirby
Yeah, I don't blame him.
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Tas Melas
Yeah.
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J. Skeets
And Kofi with the Bucks, 5 and 2. Giannis averaging 34 points per game, 13 boards, 7 assists. I know it's early. Got to throw that out there. But, like, where do you have Giannis in Kofi, sort of MVP ranking, basically two weeks in here.
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Kofi Yoboa
I always usually have sort of an MVP tier list kind of thing. And Giannis has been in there for probably the last four to five years. And it's one of those things where I feel like we kind of feel like, get numb to these Giannis box scores, where it's like, oh, yeah, 33, 13, six assists. Oh, by the way, two steals, two blocks. And. But he just does this on a nightly basis, and I'm tired of him cooking my basketball team. So I'm probably, yeah, yeah, get out of here. Giannis, who's. Who we playing next? But I feel like when we look back at Giannis's career, we can be like, oh, yeah. And I feel like a lot of players careers, honestly, in the MVP race, where if they don't win, I'm like, dang, they did try it. They're all like, what else could they have done? And if they do win, I'm like, I can. I can live with this. Like, it was. It was just like, that was SGA and Jokic last. Last year, I was like, I can win. I can. I can deal with either side.
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J. Skeets
Yeah.
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Kofi Yoboa
Winning the mvp, I'm like, I have no arguments. I think that we're in a. I don't know how it was a, like two decades ago, but I feel like we're in an MVP era where there's always five, like three. Three or five guys. Where I'm like, yeah, if they win it, I understand why they get the votes that they do.
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Tas Melas
As for Yannis game winners, this is the best one.
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J. Skeets
Interesting.
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Trey Kirby
Of two.
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Kofi Yoboa
No, no, no.
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Trey Kirby
He said buzzer beaters. I'm saying buzzer. Buzzer beaters. And his previous one was in 2017. It's almost identical to this. Wearing black jerseys. Even fade away from the mid range. Even the difference is in the one in 2017 against the Knicks. He starts in the post. This one. He starts outside.
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Tas Melas
Yeah. This one was more design. You're shooting it from there, from the mid range. While that one was. You're going up against Lance Thomas of the New York Knicks. Lance Thomas, number 42, Lance Thomas. And you start in the post and then you make your way out to the mid range after literally like 12 seconds of dribbling. They're playing one on one.
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J. Skeets
Yeah.
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Tas Melas
And. And so this one was different because it was designed. Here we go. It feels. It feels better. And the celebration, whether it's a thumbs down or the.
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J. Skeets
Then he did the shush.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, it's bigger. This is the one I'm gonna remember.
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J. Skeets
Okay, where do you. Yeah, do you have this at the top of Giannis's game winners list, Kofi, so far.
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Kofi Yoboa
Oh, yeah. D. The double thumbs down, the shush into the double thumbs down into the. Oh, we're not even going to wait for if they need to review it or not. We're leaving. We don't want to be here any longer. I love that. It reminds me of the Derek Fisher 0.4 where they immediately just run to the locker room. So you don't want to be here any longer than we want to. We know you guys hate us. I love. I love that aspect of that so much.
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J. Skeets
It was good. I think it gets overlooked a little bit because of the double thumbs down, then the shush. He's also grabbing his junk.
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Trey Kirby
Yes, he is.
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J. Skeets
And I don't know if it's AJ Green getting there pretty early that sort of like, maybe stopped the junk grab, but he. I don't know if he had, like, Sam Cassell ideas going on here, but he's got his one hand down there and that was it. He moved on.
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Trey Kirby
But different sort of game balls that he was grabbing on. This one, I did like that. People zoomed in on the Indiana Pacers crowd to find John Halliburton. He was there to witness it because, you know, Tyrese isn't playing. Is he going to be at every game? You got to show up for a rivalry game like the Bucks, So it would have been cool to see Giannis, like, pretend he was holding the towel or something as well, but, you know, maybe he'll not hit another game winner Pacers. At some point.
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Tas Melas
John wasn't in the front row.
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Kofi Yoboa
Right.
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Tas Melas
He was in his suite.
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Trey Kirby
No, he was by the stanchion, kind of.
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Tas Melas
Oh, by the stanchion.
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J. Skeets
I saw.
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Tas Melas
Giannis would go right up to him. I think he'd be comfortable. Whether it's grabbing the junk, going thumbs.
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J. Skeets
Down.
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Tas Melas
Probably a shush for John Halliburton.
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J. Skeets
If he fired John, who's your daddy to dad Halliburton, that would have been great. So what a fun game. Incredible shot. Like you said, Tass, this probably was his best buzzer beater right at the end there in a hostile environment with the whole Miles Turner thing of it all. And again, Milwaukee's 5 and 2 here and really impressive so far. But let's talk about your Pistons, Kofi, because they won again last night and cade Cunningham scored 19 of his 33 in the fourth quarter. They beat the Grizzlies 114, 106. We'll have a lot of John Morant talk later in the show. We'll get into some potential trade ideas. But Kofi, you are a Pistons fan. How did that happen first off, and what do you think of this team so far?
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Kofi Yoboa
I honestly think that this is one of the more complete games that they've played so far. I think that a lot of the games before this have been the Pistons figuring out their new rotation players. Javante Green coming in, Duncan Robinson being in the starting lineup. And I think that a lot of this is basically playing around with new lineups for Jamie Bickerstaff, which is awesome. It's an experimental process. I understand. When we lost to the Bulls first game, I was used to like last year's Bulls. And now it might not be as bad of a loss as I think it will be, but the fact that there are definitely some, like, off season things off the checklist that have, like, seem to have been checked off already, which is awesome. And I am feeling very positive about the Pistons team. Like, I. I'm like, really confident. And the fact that cade went for 19, because, you know, sometimes Cade will have these high Turner games, sometimes Cade will have these games where he's like not shooting that well. But closer. Cade, bro, he's here and I love it.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, he is. He's like struggled to shoot the ball at times early in the season, but everything else is improved. Kate Cunningham, especially in the clutch last night.
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Trey Kirby
TK Yeah, I mean, of course they lost to the balls, the first place balls. A lot of teams are so no surprise. But even in that fourth quarter, like, Cade was dominating. And I think that if you were to look at his Q1 through 3 stats versus his 4th quarter stats. He would be getting MVP buzz early in the season cause he has been taken over. He had so many big shots last night and he's always willing to take him was getting downhill time and time again. One game he's setting up Jalen Duran a hundred times for buckets. The next game like last night was Beef Stewart for bucket after bucket. So Cade has figured out how that he's like a big guy that he can get inside and finish because that was one of my criticisms for him. The turnovers are bad. He didn't take a ton of free throws and his finishing wasn't good enough for a guy who's big and strong on the perimeter. Now he knows how to get inside finish. He goes right almost every single time. But it doesn't matter if you can get to your strong hand, keep getting to your strong hand. He's looked really, really good to start the season. They beat some good teams as well. They beat the Rockets. That's a huge win, I think.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, absolutely. Kofi who? I mean Cade's obvious. He was an all NBA player last year. He's getting better. He's going to be an all NBA player for a long time. But who to you on this Pistons team has impressed you the most from last year into the early start of this season in terms of their growth on the floor as a Pistons fan.
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Kofi Yoboa
Early start this season, I got to go with Isaiah Stewart. Yeah, I got to go with Isaiah Stewart and he, it's at the point where you know, he started for Tobias Harris yesterday and it's at the point where I wouldn't be surprised if Isaiah Stewart were to log some starts here and there. I remember watching basketball seasons when him and Duran couldn't share the floor together and seeing them be able to do that, that's all I've been able. That's all I'm like asking for. Really.
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J. Skeets
It's awesome.
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Kofi Yoboa
And I think that Isaiah Stewart is going to get more and more credit as being one of the best rim protecting bigs in the entire league. I know we don't think of him as like it's one of the things where people keep like challenging him at the rim and Isaiah Stewart is proving them wrong time and time again. Also the willingness to take the open threes. I think last year he took a step back from these attempts because we had Tim Hardaway Jr. And Beasley that were able to take the shots. But now where we replaced two shooters with one shooter in Duncan Robinson. Isaiah Stewart I think has felt the need to Step up with three point attempts. I think it's definitely him. I'm blown away by every Isaiah Stewart performance so far.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, tough to disagree with that one, tass. I mean, 24 and 16 last night for beef stew. Four blocks like Kofi's talking about. He is shooting the three. He's got more confidence in that. And this idea of like in the past, hell, under Monty Williams, it was like Beef Stew and Duran out there. No, that ain't going to work. But it is so far this year. There are other guys on this roster impressing you and the rest of us. But. But Isaiah Stewart's been awesome.
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Tas Melas
I thought this was just going to be the big Beef Stew game. I mean, he had six shots in the first six minutes. It was all him. But Cade was setting him up, closing Cade, getting him involved by Isaiah Stewart. The growth of him has been awesome to watch because he wanted to be a starter. We had the whole scenario with LeBron James, but he's gone to the bench. And as Kofi said, to be that deterrent at the rim as an undersized guy.
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Kofi Yoboa
He's.
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Tas Melas
He's a tiny. Is. Is. Even though he's as wide as a fridge. He is short. But. Yeah, but he is. Yes, people should worry about him as soon as they go to the rim because he is ready to, to be aggressive at all times. And so it's great to hear Kofi on because he's a Pistons fan, because I think people will skim over Isaiah Stewart because, I mean, the main talk is obviously Kade, but then they're young players, younger players, you know, like Asar and the Jade Nivey and, and, and even Duran and Holland's great.
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Tas Melas
Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap.
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J. Skeets
You're almost at the finish line.
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Tas Melas
But first there the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, I love maybe there's some maturity with Beef Stew too. I don't know if you saw, I guess it was Osar Thompson got into it a little bit with, I think it was Vince Williams. They got hooked up, right? And then Vince Williams took offense to it because there was a foul. So he, he pushed Asar Thompson and Beef Stu, you know, he's the enforcer still, but it was more just like the sort of the quiet, scary type enforcing, not going crazy like he did with LeBron way back in the day. He's like, I'm going to hear him stick up for my guys. But he was more of like just pointing at him. So Kofi, he still has that to his game for sure.
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Kofi Yoboa
Yeah, it's still like the, this one's the I'm warning you, like don't even try. It's one of those things. So I'm glad to see that. I'm glad to see that he's realizing how important he is to some of these games. Because sometimes when last season and the season before when this would happen and Isaiah Stewart were getting it like whenever a Piston would pick up an injection, it'd be like, oh dude, the rest of this game is going to be pretty rough. Guys like you guys are, you guys are the enforcers, but you're also very vital and good. You can just be like, oh yeah, I can watch from. I can watch in the locker room and we lose nothing. No, that's not how that's working.
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Tas Melas
Just, I don't want to look too far into the future, but is Isaiah Stewart the replacement for Tobias Harris after this season? Is he the next Starting for. Is that possible on this team?
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Kofi Yoboa
I think, I think that by the All Star break with this, we can see if it's sustainable. But I do think that it's possible. And I feel like if the Pistons, if that's something that they're looking at, which is not something that I think we were looking at in this off season as Pistons fans, if that's doable, then I think that the rim protection gets a boost. I think that if the three point shot keeps on falling, I think that they can definitely play together. You give Kate another good pick and roll partner to be able to like isolate defenses, stretch defenses, you know, take advantage of all this, like the space, if we have space and then all of that, plus the like defensive. And Isaiah Stewart is, I think our longest tenured Piston. I would love to have him as a starting four.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, yeah.
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Trey Kirby
I mean, and big ball is more and more prevalent in the league. And if he's able to shoot, I mean, he's had decent season shooting the ball, but it's been up and down, up and down, up and down. So if he's able to knock him down consistently, he's got a chance. And at the very least, he's like a good spot starter, sixth man type as well. But Skee's kind of mentioned it. Kofi, how'd you become a Pistons fan and how did you stick through it during the losing streak?
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Kofi Yoboa
Oh, yeah. So neither of my parents are a big like sports team fan, so I'm from Raleigh, North Carolina. So my mom is a public speaker and she used to travel all across the country and she would bring back memorabilia from everywhere she traveled. So the Pistons was one of the teams. And there's like Cincinnati Bengals, New York Mets, Carolina Hurricanes is the only local team that I was able to latch onto locally. But, you know, I did grow up a Duke basketball fan, but I went to Maryland and they. You can't. You can't do that.
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Trey Kirby
Rivalry mode?
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Kofi Yoboa
Yeah, no, not at all. So I dropped it. But yeah, that's how I became a Pistons fan, you know, and it's fascinating. And then I stuck with it through good times and awful times.
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Trey Kirby
Hey, man, it's paying off now. It's paying off now for sure.
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J. Skeets
Yeah. Before we move on from the Pistons, like, what's a good season to you to play out the rest of this? Obviously they made the playoffs last year, put up a good fight against the Knicks. Is it sort of like obviously make the playoffs? I assume you're going to say, but is it win a Playoff series or is even that sort of maybe a step even too far?
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Kofi Yoboa
I think winning a playoff series is not out of the realm of possibility. I think that even last year we had a very, very close encounter with the Knicks, whether it was, you know, I feel like a lot of the games were like one score or whatnot. So I don't think that winning a playoff series out of the realm of possibility. I feel like if the Pistons stay out of the play in, of course that would be a good sign as well.
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J. Skeets
Yep.
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Kofi Yoboa
And you know, I my in you and my delusion fan thing is like, oh, the Pistons can get the top three seed no problem this time around. That's what I've been thinking like that. That's what I would not be surprised with. So that's what I'm kind of like hoping for.
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Trey Kirby
I don't think that's crazy. Like, coming into the season, it was assumed that it's going to be the Cavs and the Knicks one two in some sort of form. And then the Pistons were right there with the Magic and the Hawks, and we weren't sure what the Celtics were going to look like. We weren't sure what the Pacers were going to look like. The Heat are better than expected, but I think you would definitely favor the Pistons over the Hawks and the Magic, at least to start the season. They look like they know how they want to be playing going forward, which I don't know if you can necessarily say about the other two teams.
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J. Skeets
Yeah. Let's move on to an incident last night between the Celtics and Jazz. Kofi Jalen Brown furious after an apparent no call, at least in his eye. And they ended up losing. 105, 103. Nurkic with the game winning tip. But Jaylen Brown said, this cost us the game and we have the clip in case you guys missed it. Everybody on YouTube's gonna see it. Celtics clinging to a one point lead late in the fourth. Brown handling the ball at the top of the key. Keonte George slips while defending Brown, causing then Brown to trip over him and lose the ball. Jazz go the other way. They score. So it was a huge, huge play in the final minute. And Jaylen Brown was pissed. He's like, how is this not a foul call? You won't believe it. Celtics broadcast, they're saying that's a foul. Where's the call? Jazz broadcast saying, I'm sorry, man. Keonte slipped. Jalen was losing the ball while he slipped. It's just one of those weird plays. How does referee Kofi Call that one. Does Jalen Brown have a point, or is that a play on.
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Kofi Yoboa
I think. I think that's kind of a point, because I feel like if we're looking at the replay, I think that it's not that Jaylen Brown sees him first. I might be tripping. It's not like. It doesn't feel like Jaylen Brown sees him. And it also feels like Jaylen Brown slips a little bit as well.
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J. Skeets
Yeah. Yeah.
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Trey Kirby
That's what the ref said afterwards, at least.
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Kofi Yoboa
So now that, like, it's tough, but that's why. That's why. Even though I, like. Even though I talk down on referees all the time, it's one of those things where a referee could be like, why don't you do this? I'm like.
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Trey Kirby
I would never do this.
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Kofi Yoboa
I totally. I totally understand Jaylen Brown's frustration here, especially since they're playing at home. So maybe he's expecting a little bit of home cooking or whatnot. But saying that. That lost the game will often bear more weight in how we talk about things. Because if a player usually like, no, that moment right there and not like, oh, yeah, we did this, and then these things happen. No Jaylen Brown being like, yeah, no, that lost us the game. I think that will probably hope. Well, he's probably trying to put more of a magnifying glass on just refereeing in general as well.
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J. Skeets
Oh, yeah, he's gonna get fined, too, because he said the whole staff blows the fucking call. You know what I mean? So he, like, went into that postgame press conference. I know I'm gonna get dinged for this one. It's gonna cost me some money. But he thought it cost him the game. Tas, you know, we've seen the play a couple times. How would you have called it? It's a weird one.
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Tas Melas
I wouldn't have called it. But then you watch it on replay and you see his left foot slip because there's a person in front of him. And so he. He definitely slips on some sort of wetness, but that may have been caused by Keonte's butt.
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J. Skeets
No. Well, if you watch the play in totality, yeah, it's Keita that goes down before they. Those guys get to that part of the floor, he falls down on his ass. That's where the sweat, all that comes from. Play sort of develops. And then Kyote goes down, then Jalen goes down. It's like comedy of errors here, but that's what really started it.
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Tas Melas
Yeah. It looks like he's trying to divert his dribble. He's trying to move in a different direction when he sees Keonte George in front of him. And then he steps on something that makes him slip either way, and then he just falls over. Yante George, like Kofi is saying, they lost for another reason. They lost because they shot 51 threes and they only hit 11. That is the first time that they've ever done that. They've never hit that few of threes when taking 50 threes in a game. That's their lowest. 14 was the lowest before. And there's other reason. Like County George, that was a guy that was the reason why the Jazz won the game. He had a 16 point third quarter. He was monstrous to get them back. I love saying the word monstrous. I know our fans say, hey, why do you say monstrous all the time?
- [27:56]
J. Skeets
We all have our words.
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Tas Melas
Yes, whatever works. But Keonte George, he's a new player. We're talking about Pistons as new players. This guy looks way different. But Jalen Brown's got to complain about it. He's got to complain about it. You fell over a body. Yeah.
- [28:10]
Trey Kirby
And he was cooking. Jaylen Brown. Yeah, Completely killing in the fourth quarter. Kata, though, is rising on my slipperiest, sweatiest guys in the league. Because like you're saying, Skeets, he goes out there, he falls down. Keonte George falls down, Jaylen Brown falls down. They still don't have time to clean it up. So the next time down, Walter Clayton Jr. Slipped twice on the same sweat spot. This guy must be soaking wet. And maybe that's why the Jazz were able to slip off him and grab 15 offensive rebounds, including the game winner from Nurkic, which came after this call. The game was tied. They still didn't get body on body. Nurkic boards, puts it in. That was their 15th offensive rebound. Celtics dominated. Were dominated on the glass, 55 to 36. The Jazz are a big team. You know, they're playing market. And Nurkic was out there last night. Filipowski, they got seven footers in the lineup, three of them. Even Kevin Love was doing stuff. Also 54 to 40 points in the paint advantage for Utah. This didn't help. Falling down. I mean, that's a ton of contact. You can't guard a guy when you're lying on the ground. So you could have understood if there was a foul call. But what really lost him the game was missing a ton of threes and not rebounding. That's how the Celtics are going to lose every game.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, let's talk big picture here. Kofi what's been your biggest early season surprise so far? What do you got?
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Kofi Yoboa
It has to be Chicago. For me, it has to be Chicago.
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J. Skeets
You don't need to pander to Trey Kirby.
- [29:31]
Trey Kirby
He's right. He watched Opening night.
- [29:33]
Kofi Yoboa
I watched the opening game. I watched the opening game and I was just like, oh, like we're, oh, the ball is flying around. I. It's hard for me to like, I never. I rarely watch teams in the NBA and be like, I wish we played like that on like a week, on like a day to day basis. But they like play the style of basketball that I. They're playing the title of basketball that I love, which is like getting out in transition, sharing the ball around and whatnot. And I dude, the, the wins, the win streak. I was like, oh. But then I felt like, you know, I don't want to put myself in Chicago Bulls fan shoes, but I feel like maybe you kind of have a hesitancy to like acknowledge it and be like, oh, man, we're doing so well. Like, the moment you say it, it's all gonna like just blow up in smoke. But yeah, no, definitely. The Chicago Bulls being atop the East, I was not expecting that.
- [30:26]
Trey Kirby
Well, I wasn't feeling bad about the win streak because I texted every Knicks fan I know after they beat him on Friday, went to 5 and oh, for the first time since the dynasty years. And then I didn't say anything after they got smoked by the Knicks on Sunday. But I mean, two of the biggest surprises definitely are the bulls and the 76ers they play tonight. Let's see who's more real tonight. On one side you got the 76ers who just bombed threes. On the other side, the Bulls basically took away threes, at least through the first four games. I think they gave up 38 threes to the Knicks in two games. 18 and 20 prior to that, they'd given up 28 the first four games. So it does feel a little fake ski to me at some point. But I love seeing them at the top of the standings right now.
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J. Skeets
Oh, for sure.
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Trey Kirby
And they are fun to watch. Like Kofi is saying, they're a team that is definitely inspired by the Pacers success the last couple of seasons. Pacers had 10 good guys, played as fast as they possibly could and that's what the Bulls are trying to do.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, that's a great point. Jared McCain, I believe is expected to play tonight for the Philadelphia 7.
- [31:25]
Trey Kirby
They said we need everything.
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Kofi Yoboa
It's a must watch game.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, I mean, that's exciting. Gives already an interesting game some more juice.
- [31:31]
Tas Melas
And that's why it's our pick em game, baby. That's the one we're excited about.
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J. Skeets
Okay.
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Tas Melas
Sorry, peacock. NBC's got Hawks magic as their early game.
- [31:42]
J. Skeets
Oh, okay. Yeah. You know what? It's a perfect time to ask Kofi, who's like, has a lot of opinions in this space, what's been your takeaways from the new broadcast partners? Be it NBC, Amazon prime, like, fan of it for the most part. Things can change. What do you think?
- [31:58]
Kofi Yoboa
I'm a fan of it for the most part because it feels like on a day to day basis we have people now that are broadcasting on a national media landscape that actually, like, they actually sound like they want to be there.
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J. Skeets
Right.
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Kofi Yoboa
I think that we had that problem. We had a problem with that like last year where it sometimes just didn't sound like. It didn't sound like the people that were analyzing the game before the game started wanted to be there. And it's really disheartening. When you are a new team and you are getting a couple more national TV recognitions, then you get to the analysis and they're just like, oh, man. Well, none of these teams are championship contenders. Why watch, we'll see you guys Friday. Yeah, and then, but then you got, you got, then you got prime where it's like, oh, yeah, let's give you Donna Haslam a tablet. Let's see. Let's have Steve Nash and Dirk and Blake Griffin and they kind of, they're, I mean, they're still working out their chemistry, but there have been some moments where they're like, oh, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna take it a step further where there's a example where Steve Nash was talking about like pick and roll coverage and then Blake Griffin was giving his perspective as like a big man in today's NBA. And I was like, that's what I'm talking about. This is always like. And I think that for us, I know a lot of people are like, man, the NBA and NBC and prime coverage is doing so great. And I think that the overwhelming outpour of this, even though it's just the start, is that the bar was so low.
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J. Skeets
Yes.
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Kofi Yoboa
And it wasn't being cleared. And I feel like that's why, that's why I'm excited. I know that I've talked to some fans and they've been like, oh, a national TV game, like kind of every day. Won't that get exhausting? I'm like, no, Actually, I think that this is going to be a really great thing. I think that the competitiveness in terms of how the sport is coverage only benefits us all.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, I'd agree with that. I mean, we've already talked about it a little bit, but it is nice to have some competition changing sort of from night to night. Now, is it tough maybe, as some consumer to be like, what is this on tonight? Where am I going? Is it Peacock? Is it NBC? Am I going to Amazon Prime? Whatever. But once you figure it out, it is cool to get this refreshing sort of look at the game, a positive look at the game at that point. But I think right now, if I'm ranking them, I do like the prime team over the NBC team. We're talking more like Vince and Tracy and Carmelo. And I don't think it's bad, but I just think the way what they're doing over there on prime is a little more exciting than what I've seen so far from the NBC crew.
- [34:29]
Trey Kirby
Blake is a Prime guy. Is that right? I think he's the best of everybody. That's new to the.
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J. Skeets
Him talking about John Morant was great.
- [34:36]
Trey Kirby
Him talking about John Moran, he's like, he's funny, but he's not out there just trying to do jokes the entire time. He explains things pretty well. He played such a long time and so recently that he has relationships and knowledge of the new game. I really like what I've heard from Blake Griffin. Did you see Vince and Carmelo playing in the sandbox last night? They're like moving little images of players around, trying to explain different health concepts and stuff. A little janky. Janky with the technology. But I thought it was cool to.
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Tas Melas
See at least literally in a sandbox.
- [35:10]
Trey Kirby
No, they called it the sandbox. It was like on a court. They should do that.
- [35:14]
J. Skeets
They should do that.
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Tas Melas
Yeah. No technology problems if you're playing in the sandbox.
- [35:20]
Trey Kirby
Just little figurines.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, you could try that. We got a couple more questions before we let you go, Kofi maybe let you go back to bed, for all I know. But do you respect the Cup? Because on this podcast, we do. So we need your opinion. Are you a Cup fan or no?
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Kofi Yoboa
I've been to the. Well, I went to the first iteration when it was in season tournament, and I. When I first went to the one in Vegas, I had doubts. I had my doubts. But as soon as I saw the atmosphere, the collaboration, like all these NBA fans, because, you know, NBA fans are everywhere. NBA fans like to travel. It's Always a beautiful sight when you can just see a collaboration of so many NBA fans. Just be like, oh, I hope my team does win something this year.
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J. Skeets
Right.
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Kofi Yoboa
Like, you have that aspect of. Of, you know, where it's like, oh, we did win the NBA cup. And it's. It's cool to see the players play for something. It's cool to see, like, the whole point differential aspect of it. Like, it's goal differential in soccer.
- [36:16]
J. Skeets
Yep.
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Kofi Yoboa
I am a believer. I'm not a believer in all of the courts. Some of them. Some of them get really hard to enjoy what's going on. But. And. But that's about it. I like the. I like the cup, and I think that it's, like, it's something, right?
- [36:34]
Trey Kirby
This man is a certified cup respector.
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J. Skeets
And I love to hear it.
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Kofi Yoboa
It's something, man.
- [36:38]
Trey Kirby
We need to hear.
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J. Skeets
Do you prefer.
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Trey Kirby
It basically comes down to you, like, gray quartz or colorful courts?
- [36:44]
Kofi Yoboa
I like colorful quartz. When they're not neon. The Timberwolves one I'm not really a fan of.
- [36:50]
J. Skeets
It can go too far.
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Kofi Yoboa
I understand. I understand that people don't like a lot of the red quartz. If that. If that's something, like, I'm like, there. If they. If someone has, like, a color that they're just not a fan of, I'm gonna be like, I totally. It totally checks out. Like. Like, if someone's like, I don't like the navy blue courts, I'm like, cool. Like, my least favorite cup court is the Lakers yellow. Because I personally just don't like when the Lakers wear that yellow. It just feels out of. It feels out of character when they. I. You know, I. And I hate to sound like a. Back in my day, I'm like, the Lakers had beautiful purple and gold, and then they went to, like, lighter yellow and weirder purple. And it just. I'm very. I'm a very, like, NBA aesthetic person. So that's why, like, some. Some cup courts, I'm like, okay, but you can't. You can't hit on all of them.
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J. Skeets
That's right.
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Trey Kirby
That's right.
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J. Skeets
And I think I even saw a short of yours. You're not the biggest fan of even your own favorite teams court. Is that right? You're not the biggest fan of the Pistons court.
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Kofi Yoboa
Yeah, it's not. And it's not even the court. More of just, like, the jerseys. I'm tired of. Of us wearing the Pepsi Max jerseys because we don't play well in them. We don't play well in them at all. There's a guy on Twitter. His name is. Their name is Pistons Uniform Tracker.
- [38:03]
J. Skeets
Right.
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Kofi Yoboa
Last season, tracked all of the jerseys and the Uniform Tracker. The black Pepsi jerseys were our worst by far. I don't know. And I don't know, like, what if the team. You know, there's an analytics team, But I would be like, hey, guys, I know this might sound crazy, but we don't do well in these jerseys for.
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J. Skeets
Some reason, so just stop. Not our jersey. Stop playing in them. Yeah, man. Maybe it's as simple as that. What are your thoughts on this super Pistons fan? The South Korean guy who, like, popped off recently? Tom.
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Kofi Yoboa
Yeah. No, Tom's great.
- [38:41]
J. Skeets
I've seen him everywhere.
- [38:43]
Trey Kirby
Suddenly, I was in Seoul.
- [38:45]
Kofi Yoboa
I was in Seoul recently, and my regret was that I didn't reach out. Like, I. I knew him on Twitter, and it didn't. Like, I was there for a week and I. It didn't. It didn't, like, click to me being like, oh, there is a business fan here. I. He doesn't know that.
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J. Skeets
But.
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Kofi Yoboa
But it's. It's really cool to see the Pistons whenever a fan does come over from overseas and, you know, they. They really welcome them in because, again, like, the NBA is the global game, and you do have super fans. And I feel like it's always awesome when a league or a team does go the extra mile being like, we salute you for rooting for us from all the way over there. Because, like, the time zones are tough, right? Watching these. If you're watching these games live. Right. I think South Korea, I don't know what the time zone difference is, but I think it's over 12.
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J. Skeets
I think so. Yeah.
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Kofi Yoboa
And then last year, we had Pistons Jack, who I think is from Australia.
- [39:44]
J. Skeets
Okay.
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Kofi Yoboa
He showed up last season and was. And was. No, not show. I mean, he's been a Pistons fan.
- [39:51]
J. Skeets
For a long time.
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Kofi Yoboa
Then he, like, he went from. He came from Australia, visited Detroit, and then the Pistons again gave him a very good treatment. So it's one of the things where I wasn't surprised that the Pistons did this, because as an organization, they have done this in the past. But it was really cool to see someone not from the area just be so immersed with the area and be like, where are all the food spots? And then even other teams. I think he went to a hockey game as well. I think that's really one of the coolest things, is when a sports organization does. Just makes a memory that they're gonna have forever.
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J. Skeets
Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, look, before we let you go, how is the going solo here in the sports content space. Going for you, obviously. I mean, we're sort of doing the same thing. It's a new era for us. But you're an expert in this. How's it going, dude?
- [40:47]
Kofi Yoboa
It's going. It's going well. I think that, you know, I got laid off in February, but I think that the thing for me is that I'm still getting used to being on my own. Right.
- [40:58]
J. Skeets
Yeah.
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Kofi Yoboa
It's one of the things where when you work for a corporation, you have certain benefits that you don't really need to think about. You don't need to think about views, retention rate. You don't need to think about what advertisements you should or should stay away from or should do. It's one of those things where it keeps me up in terms of just being like, I'm on my own right now. I'm not. I don't like. It's. I can do whatever I want in terms of every topic I want, but I also could do that at Vox and Seeker Base. So I think for me, the. The outpour of support has been positive. I was able to reach a hundred thousand subscribers recently.
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Unknown Advertiser/Announcer
Congrats.
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Kofi Yoboa
Which was always been a goal of mine. So seeing the support from people that have loved my content in the past really does keep me going. So, yeah, it's always like a little bit challenging, a little bit daunting, but there's nothing else I would rather do in this life than just keep creating.
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J. Skeets
Well, you're killing it, man. Continued success. Really appreciate you jumping on. We'll have to have you back. I don't know when the Pistons and Bulls are playing in the east side of the NBA cup finals or something like that. Well, look, are you planning on going to veg again here for the NBA Cup? Maybe we can link up there if we get out there this year.
- [42:15]
Kofi Yoboa
I would love to. It's not currently on the schedule.
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J. Skeets
Okay. Okay.
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Kofi Yoboa
But, you know, I do live close in the west, so it's not. It's not the. It's not the hardest trip to plan, so.
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J. Skeets
Okay, well, yeah, we'll stay in touch, Kofi. Thanks again, everybody here in no Dunks Land. Make sure you go check out Kofi across all the social media channels. Kofiy on YouTube and Instagram and Twitter and Bluesky and TikTok and Twitch and I'm sure I'm forgetting 10 other. Kofi, thanks a lot, man. We'll let you go and we'll talk again soon.
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Kofi Yoboa
Dude, thank you, guys. Thank you so much for having me. It's. It's an honor to be on this show.
- [42:50]
Trey Kirby
Awesome.
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Kofi Yoboa
I look up to y'.
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Unknown Advertiser/Announcer
All.
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J. Skeets
Oh, appreciate it. Thumbs up for Kofi in the stream team. Right now. We're gonna take a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk John Morant trades.
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Tas Melas
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J. Skeets
All right, if you're here on YouTube right now live, hit the like button. Obviously make sure you've subscribed to no dunk so you know when we go live and share the show. Podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews don't do it for us, do it for Kofi. Great guest coming on here. Super early morning for him out there on the west coast. Okay. As discussed yesterday, the relationship between Ja Morant and the Memphis Grizzlies took an unexpected and sudden turn over the weekend. The team suspended the All Star one game for comments detrimental to the team. Following that, very weird Loss to the Lakers, where it seemed like he sort of gave up in the second half. He was pouting. He returned last night, played against Kofi's Pistons. They did lose. He looked okay. But he told reporters John Moranted after the game that he's lost his joy playing basketball. He didn't do a lot, Trey, to sort of quiet the buzz around his relationship with the staff and maybe the front office, like, right?
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Trey Kirby
No, definitely not. He's doing the Jimmy Butler playbook. We give up on the team and then we say we're not having fun out there. Will it ever come back? I don't know. That was disappointing because I'm with you on the court. I thought he looked like he's looked this season. Not highlight John Morant, but playing, driving, getting teammates involved, doing the things you're expecting from Ja Morant. But then to see the way the post game press conferences transpired leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
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Tas Melas
He didn't go out of his way to make everyone feel better, that's for sure.
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J. Skeets
No.
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Tas Melas
He was asked, do you have a comfortable relationship? And he said, yes, I do, or else I wouldn't talk to them at all.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, yeah.
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Tas Melas
So he kind of said that. But he also didn't say. He said, yeah, I'm not really all that happy. You could see it. Not a smile for the entire press conference. Not feeling extremely happy. But on the court, things were all right. It was bodying Cade with a couple minutes left. He was getting into it.
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J. Skeets
Yeah. So the Grizzlies face a classic NBA star player conundrum here, right? Let's just get into it. On one hand, he's their franchise cornerstone. He's had team success.
- [46:43]
Trey Kirby
Right.
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J. Skeets
You've seen the numbers when he plays with Jaren Jackson Jr. They win a lot of regular season games, so there's that. On the other hand, it's like, how do you trust him to fulfill his commitment to the team if he's doing this? And again, something we said yesterday. Does Ja Morant become worth the headache if this continues here? That's the perfect recipe for trade rumors. And that's what we're going to do here. We've picked a couple that we saw yesterday going around. We're going to dissect them, grade the trade, whether you like it, for the grizzly side of things, for the team trying to get them. Whatever, we'll talk it through. I want to let everyone know morant is owed $42 million next season. $45 million for the 20. That's about 25% of the salary cap going forward. So actually pretty affordable figure for a player of his caliber, at least when we've seen him at his best. He's eligible for a massive contract extension at season's end, but it's unclear if the Grizzlies are going to offer him one with all this going on. Just so you know the numbers of what we're working with here, okay, so grade that trade. I'm going to throw them at you guys. Throw them at everybody on YouTube and the podcast listeners. We'll talk them out and maybe we'll come up with our favorite here. So one you saw, I'm sure, was a very simple Ja Morant to the Atlanta Hawks for Trae Young. Eric Pincus. I saw a Bleacher Report, the one for one star point guard. For star point guard. Young is in the final year of his contract unless he opts into his $49 million for 26, 27. So you probably would have to have the Grizzlies getting some assurances from Young about sticking around if they were to give up John Morant, but both franchises would stand in the luxury tax. Does this do anything for you Tass from either side here? Trae Young for John Morant from the Grizzlies.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, I'd grade it an A minus, but from the Hawks perspective, it's a D. Okay. I think they've set themselves up so well for these next few years to be able to go in different directions. They got that great draft pick from the New Orleans Pelicans for this coming season, and so they set themselves up well in multiple ways. Let's say our young players are playing well together and we get a number one draft pick or, you know, number one ish draft pick from the Pelicans. We could build around that guy with the players that we have, or those guys are playing well and we can turn into a bunch of tradable contracts. And Dyson Daniels, Zachary Reese has. And Yaka Kong, very young, solid players into a superstar. So they got that direction. But if you bring in John Moran, I think you're really. You could easily be putting this track into we gotta slow this baby down and get off the road here. I mean, we gotta. We gotta off ramp. It doesn't look like a solid direction with John Rant when they've set themselves up so well to go in different directions. Now, is it away from Trey at some point?
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J. Skeets
That's possible, maybe.
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Tas Melas
But I think in this situation, the Grizzlies are cashing in. I think it's a fantastic trade to.
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J. Skeets
Get from their side. Okay, what do you think, TK I.
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Trey Kirby
Think both say no to this trade, but I think Atlanta more so says no. For Memphis. It's the devil you know. They've had John Morant the entirety of his career. He's beloved in Memphis. And like you're saying, Trey has a player option for next season. He needs to be paid immediately. Is that what the Grizzlies want to do? Build around Trey Young And Jaren Jackson Jr. Does that get you any closer in the Western Conference? Maybe not. Meanwhile, Atlanta is ready to go to a youth movement if things go source this season. You know, Trey is out for four weeks minimum right now. They're going to lose their pick to the San Antonio Spurs. But lucky for them they got that Pelicans one coming in and they might get a franchise superstar and you can build around him immediately and have pieces that fit around him immediately, whoever that may be. So I do think Atlanta says no because the trade contract is shorter. Trey, it's just like Jah here. He's the start. He's the one who really sells the tickets. So I think they would both want to keep their own guy.
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J. Skeets
Okay, well, let's move on to John Morant, to the Sacramento Kings. Okay. For DeMar DeRozan, Malik Monk and let's say some draft capital. Maybe one first round pick. Sam Quinn at CBS he wrote the idea for Memphis in all likelihood would be to break up the John Morant contract into smaller components. So DeRozan, nearly $25 million cap figure this season, but he's only guaranteed 10 million next season. Malik Monk, slightly more reasonable figure. It's basically call it 20 million per year for him. For a couple here, the Grizzlies would hope to land some draft capital. Like I said. So the Kings have a 26 protected first round pick. They have a 27 protected spurs first round pick. Maybe there's something here. The comparison I saw was Dallas getting out of the Kristaps Porzingis market business in 2022. They moved KP to the Wizards for not draft capital really at all. But it was like Bertons and Dinwiddie. It was like get smaller contracts to then maybe be able to maneuver with. But we'll start with you on this one, Trey. John Morant to the Kings for something along the lines or maybe other pieces.
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Trey Kirby
If you have this is a D. This is not a good trade for both swabs. No, Sacramento would do this in a second.
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J. Skeets
Okay.
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Trey Kirby
This would be a great trade. For Sacramento to give up DeRozan, a guy who's not going to be a long termer there. Malik Monk, who was in trade rumors all season, if they only have to give up one first round pick, definitely do it. The Kings would do this. This is like an A plus trade for them. I think if they're able to pull it off, the Grizzlies would need to get both picks back from the Kings, their own 26 and the 27 Spurs. Like you're saying, even though that one probably not going to be all that good. Imagine Victor Wembanyama in another year. We shall see. But I don't know. That's why I wouldn't do it. If you're the Grizzlies, there's no point in bringing in DeRosa.
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Tas Melas
I hear what you're saying. I think the Grizzlies have to act and make a deal as soon as possible because I think the likeness or the same deal and franchise look at Dallas and moving on from Kristaps Porzingis, is the Grizzlies making Jaren Jackson Jr. Somewhat happy here? Because Jaren Jackson Jr. Has been dealing for multiple years with this franchise that's been going up and down. I think it is a little bit like the way they traded Luka. We're moving on and the Grizzlies I think have to for Jaren Jackson junior's sake. So in this instance is it the best deal to see Malik Monk come back as the primary part? No, it's not ideal. But if it is the best offer on the table, I think it is something that they have to pull the trigger on along with the first round pick just to make Jaren Jackson Jr. Somewhat happy.
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Trey Kirby
They just signed into a huge extension though. Yeah, yeah.
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Tas Melas
But will he be happy for. I just mean keeping John Morant around ain't ain't the way to do it. That's all. I mean it's more so than this King's offer. I don't know what the best offer on the table is. We're going through them now. I don't think the Hawks would trade Trey Young in in any situation for John Moran. We're going to get through other names but I think this literally could be the one, the best one on the table. As far as you think this is realistic.
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J. Skeets
Trey said that the Kings would call to inquire about John Moran and this would some sort of package they would offer is like getting at and if this is all that Memphis gets a phone call for then maybe they would do it. But.
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Tas Melas
Well, that's the thing. It's not just about Sacramento. It's about the other 29 teams or 28 teams, I guess, offering deals to the Grizzlies. What do they offer? That's always the question. I know it's not ideal to have Malik Monk as your primary guy, But Jaren Jackson Jr. Again has been there for a long time. They have to make a move at some point. I know they've sort of built around Jaren Jackson Jr. But how long can he deal?
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Trey Kirby
I just. If the best deal that is offered to them, if the absolute peak of the packages coming back is DeRozan Monk in one first round pick, they shouldn't trade Jaw, which is why they probably won't trade him this season.
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Tas Melas
I think they got to. I think they have to at some point. And even if it's that in comparison to that Kristaps Porzingis deal obviously wasn't a good one.
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J. Skeets
And you say that because you don't see this ever really getting better is the whole point.
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Tas Melas
It sure feels that way.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, you could be right.
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Tas Melas
Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap.
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J. Skeets
You're almost at the finish line.
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Tas Melas
But first there, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.
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J. Skeets
Ja Morant to the Miami Heat for Tyler Herro, who's also out injured. I mean, similar to obviously Trae Young and the Hawks potential trade and let's say an $8.4 million trade exception because they have that to play with. But really it's Ja Morant for Tyler Hero. Again, similar to Ja Morant for Trae Young. The Heat Trae are star hunters. They're always interested at least. But you brought it up the other day. This would be ironic with how the Miami Heat are now playing. That doesn't seem the type of style that John Morant really wants to play with. What they're doing spamming the pick and roll. But what do you think about this potential trade idea?
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Trey Kirby
It's like a C minus. Tyler Herro always hurt and he's like fringe all star at best. So getting no picks back in this and like the biggest roster building thing you're getting as a trade exception. This is not interesting to me at all. If I'm the Grizzlies, I'd be like no picks. Who are we?
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J. Skeets
The Bulls Hero was extension eligible before the start of the season, starting after his $33 million for 26, 27. But he and the Heat didn't reach a deal too. So this is a part of the equation here whether the Heat and Hero are for the long run. But your thoughts?
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Tas Melas
Well, the Heater cooking, it would be an odd move to bring in John Moran into that locker room. I do think as much as John Morant may be able to move on to another scenario where he is, you know, a one a type of player just. Just a new environment. And because as you said, Pat Riley likes to pull the trigger on guys. We mentioned Jimmy Butler's scenario earlier in the conversation with Philly where he wanted out, he got to Miami and things were cooking obviously. Oh my God.
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J. Skeets
It went well.
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Tas Melas
They went to two freaking finals. So yeah, it went extremely well. But they are cooking and we are only as we talk two weeks into the season. So this may be a different conversation a month from now. If the Heat or not not cooking, they are literally going 1 through 10 deep. But I don't see why the Heat would make this risk with a guy in Tyler Hero who played his Peak last year and is at least part of the environment there. It's risky.
- [59:00]
J. Skeets
I don't find it that much of a risk, to be honest. From the Heat side of things, I think this is something here. If they are like, you know, looking ahead, that Tyler Hero is not part of their long term plan. This is exactly the type of player that the Heat would bring into their organization. And you would watch. John Morant would kick ass. I assume under the leadership and that sort of the Heat culture. There it is. Everybody have a drink. I think there's something here. If you're right. If they're like this is a mirage, the start to this season and the rest of the league will catch up to us or whatever, figure us out. Maybe we're playing above our heads right now. I think that's a big part. Like you said, Tas, the way they're doing right now. We could talk about it for a second. Great game win. Great win last night in LA versus the Clippers where Bam Adebayo I thought was awesome. That was a great stretch defensively, offensively. You know, Wiggins hit big shots. I mean, they are playing well. That was a really nice bounce back win for them.
- [59:53]
Trey Kirby
Why did Kawhi take the last shot? I know he just hit a game winner, but Harden was on fire.
- [59:57]
J. Skeets
Yeah.
- [59:57]
Trey Kirby
Bombing 30 footers and they would have won on a three pointers. Just standing there in the corner. Kawhi took an impossible shot. Yeah, I thought that was a bad loss for the Clippers especially.
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Kofi Yoboa
Yeah.
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Tas Melas
Last couple minutes were kind of ugly for the Clippers there, except Harden was.
- [60:11]
J. Skeets
Bailing them out with crazy shots.
- [60:13]
Tas Melas
Yeah. Call a timeout, Tyloo. I mean quadrivil for. I don't know, it felt like eight seconds. That, that could be your signal. Just call a timeout to. To make a play. So. Yeah, the Heater cooking. You feel that though? The. The locker room will be this same thing that happened to Jimmy Butler. Like Jimmy Butler will walk into there or John Morant will walk into there like Jimmy Butler did and things are. Or, I don't know, just smooth. I do.
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J. Skeets
John Morant's just pissed off with the organization, coaching staff, whatever. Yeah. You watch wherever he ends up, he'll be back to John Morant of two, three years ago, superstar level. Guarantee that for a bit. No, he can't.
- [60:51]
Trey Kirby
I think it depends. I think if he goes to Sacramento, he's probably not as enthused as if he goes to Miami.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, fair. But you know, these guys, they want to like stick it to the Organization.
- [60:59]
Trey Kirby
Chip on the shoulder guy for sure.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, that's my point. I mean, so okay, but does he.
- [61:03]
Trey Kirby
Have the legs for it anymore? I don't know.
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J. Skeets
But yeah.
- [61:05]
Trey Kirby
Jaws still still an upgrade over Tyler Herro for me. Right.
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J. Skeets
All right. How about John Morant to the Toronto Raptors? Tas, are you interested? How about John Morant to the Raps for Emmanuel Quickley, Grady Dick and draft capital here. And the Raptors do have control of all their first round picks. They do have a pretty wide variety of players that they could put. I just went with Quickley Dick and again a first round pick. It's got a nice little rhyme to it. That's why.
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Trey Kirby
Quickly Dick.
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J. Skeets
Quickly Dick and first round pick. What do you think about that?
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Tas Melas
This though I don't do it if I'm the reps. I think it's, it's, it's a C move. To me it's a lateral move. Masai Ujiri moved on mainly because he kept that same team in that same scenario, the same roster for years. Bobby Wester has come in there to take over, I think to go in a different direction. So now we're looking at a team with Morant Ingram, Scotty Barnes and RJ Barrett. Are they getting much better in that scenario? I highly doubt it. So it just feels like another move that Messiah Giri could have made or would have made. It just doesn't feel like they're going in a right direction. Bobby Webster was literally come in to say hey, we may tear this thing apart if it's not going well. Unfortunately, it's not going well. And I don't think John Morant moving to Toronto, although there, there are fewer guns there as well. I'm not sure if it works out for him in that regard, but I will just say it seems too lateral to me for, for the Raptors and I grade it the same for, for the Grizzlies. In a scenario it feels like a C, the return coming back.
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Trey Kirby
What do you think TK Grizzlies say no quickly. Contract I don't think is going to be very Easy to trade 32 and a half million dollars every season through 2029. They're the same age. You would rather pay that money to John Moran. I think by far, especially if you're only giving a Grady Dick, a guy who hasn't been able to establish himself in the rotation. And I guess it depends on how many first round picks.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, this is what this would be. It feels like if they went all like they really wanted John Moran, they like gave up a lot of draft.
- [63:10]
Trey Kirby
But I don't think it would have to be a lot of first round picks because you have to attach them to get off of Quickley's contract. So maybe it would be, I don't know. Quickly's contract is bad. That's the problem with this trade. And I understand why you're trying to get it off the Raptors for John Moran. That would be a great deal for the them. John Morant.
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J. Skeets
Although shooting would be a real issue on. On a Raptor squad.
- [63:32]
Trey Kirby
It still is though. I mean, what's the difference between that and now?
- [63:36]
J. Skeets
Yeah, I mean, I guess. I mean, Scott Barnes has shown some promise, at least from three point land.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, yeah. Things aren't going well. It just seems like this ain't a good direction either, that's all. This. This John.
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J. Skeets
Little buzz to the Raptors though, does it? That's some of these franchises a big part of this equation.
- [63:55]
Trey Kirby
Sounds good.
- [63:55]
J. Skeets
Moranto. Remember LeBron? Now we have Moranto. I'm in. I love it. If it was just Quickly Dick in a first round pick one, I would do this instantaneously if I'm a Raptors front office employee. But it's going to be. Would in theory be more draft capital, I do think. And then you get into like, ooh, how much are we giving up for that? Is he going to be happy here? Are we going to have spacing issues, which we already have. There's parts of it I get, but.
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Tas Melas
This team has aspirations to do something and I just don't know if Ja's doing that. Doesn't feel like it.
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J. Skeets
Final one, Ja Morant to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Rudy Gobert and Rob Dillingham. It's sort of difficult to construct a trade with the Minnesota Timberwolves. You almost have to throw a Randle or Gobert in there to like get to a John Morant trade. And then obviously Dillingham would be like the young piece that then you could see the Grizzlies as their point guard of the future. TK Vibes on this one grade would.
- [64:57]
Trey Kirby
Require the Timberwolves wanting to take a step back because their backup centers behind Gobert are young guys like Nas. Reed is a cool six man of the year, but if he has to come into the starting lineup, you're not playing any sort of defense. Joan Baron J looks like he might be good four years from now. Same with that other big dude they got Rocco, Rocco Zacharski. They got great names for their backup centers, but not a Lot of talent. I couldn't believe this, that I heard it on the broadcast last night. Rob Dillingham hasn't taken a three pointer yet. He's played 45 minutes. He's the point guard. I actually think the Timberwolves would think about this, but it's such a change to their identity. They're a defense, first team, and Ant is carrying us to wins when he's healthy. It's been Randall in the meantime, so it would be a talent upgrade to me, but it would be a completely, completely different team. This is the sort of thing I think happens more likely if the Timberwolves were to get close in the Western Conference. I mean, they've gone to two straight conference finals. They're better in the playoffs. They have a solution for at least one of the tough to beat teams in the West. But they would need to strike out again and then be like, all right, we got to change something up. We keep losing the same way. And if that happens, then maybe they're like, yeah, we're going offense mode. Ant and Jaw, good luck stopping both of them.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, I mean, Tim Connolly is a bold GM too. I mean, they went to a Western Conference finals and then made a massive cat trade which shocked a lot of people. So this would be him like doubling down again. I love the idea of Anthony Edwards and Jaden McDaniels being able to cover for John Morant defensively, but, yeah, if Gobert goes out, then Nas Reed's gotta step in there. On one hand. Good, he can space the floor. But Izzy overtaxed as a starter and then Berger and all this issues because Rudy, you know, he's a part of the equation here.
- [66:48]
Tas Melas
He is a part of it.
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J. Skeets
But what do you think, Tess?
- [66:49]
Tas Melas
It's intriguing from the Minnesota side because Rudy Gobert, clearly, he is getting older and so moving on from his couple guaranteed years after this one, it sort of makes logical sense to bring in a guy under John Moran who clearly would have to adhere to the locker room that is run by Anthony Edwards. That's his is. So could that happen? There's a possibility, along with, you know, Jade McDaniels, as you mentioned there, just to have a little bit of a hierarchy. And they're taking a risk getting Rob Dillingham, who's a second, young second year player. I guess that's what they're getting along with Rudy Gobert.
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J. Skeets
That's because the Wolves have basically no picks either. So unless a third team is roped in here and it's truly risky, it's.
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Tas Melas
Truly risky for this coming playoffs to have have. Yeah, Naz Reed starting a ton, and he's done it at times. But Johan Beringer, way too young. He's a fantastic summer league player. But moving into an NBA playoffs, who are you counting on to be your center? It really would be so much on Nas Reed's shoulders. So it does sort of emulate what they did with Karl Anthony Towns because he was guaranteed money for a long time. And Rudy Gobert guaranteed for a couple more years as well. Well, but the risk level is higher because you don't have Rudy Gobert anymore. Who's. Who's defending back there. Yeah. Would be just an offense team. It'd be. It would be strange.
- [68:14]
Trey Kirby
Gobert's taking a little bit of a step back. I wouldn't be surprised if the Timberwolves do want to trade him at some point in the last couple of years of his deal here. Especially, like I'm saying, if they just feel stale. We've seen teams do that time and time again where it's like, we've got our core. This is what we're doing. And the Timberwolves are really locked into their core. Cuz Dillingham, it was like their big bet on the future. They traded, what, like a 20, 30, 31 pick, whatever it was, to the Spurs. That's not looking like a great deal so far. They would like to have that pick back so they could make a swing on somebody else. But if they're feeling stale, maybe they roll the dice with Ja and Ant led team. That is not sounding like a serious locker room to me, though.
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J. Skeets
No, I know. It's sort of fascinating to think about it. On one hand, awesome. On the other hand, oh, my God, this is going to be a wild ride. I feel like, like, yeah.
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Tas Melas
But I think Anthony Edwards has grown into that kind of role. I think he's. He can do that. It would be a little bit of.
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J. Skeets
A. I do agree with that.
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Tas Melas
It's.
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J. Skeets
He's the alpha still. Of those. Of that bunch.
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Tas Melas
Yeah. Of that team that went to two straight conference finals, even though Cat left. But you are relying a lot defensively after Rudy Gobert leaves. Even though Rudy is getting older. So it does. Logically. You just start to think, okay, here they come, the pieces. We can start putting them together. On the. Was it the peacock using the sand?
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Trey Kirby
Sandbox, Peacock, Sandbox.
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J. Skeets
No, Tim Connolly's sitting in a sandbox right now trying to figure it out.
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Tas Melas
I mean, that's why they drafted Jon Berenger to be the next Rudy Gobert, he is the French guy to help him out. Now he isn't.
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J. Skeets
They had to get a French guy.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, they got to go French. And maybe Rudy Gobert can take him under his wing. But it's got to be fast. The guy's not even 19 yet. Yeah, but in summer league, it was awesome.
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J. Skeets
They're completely changing the dynamic of their team here because Rudy is still good. We say he's getting up there, but he obviously has a role in this league and for this team. But yeah, it's a hell of a roll of dice. And again, Tim Connolly has done it before. So if there's a GM out there who's willing to maybe try it again, maybe it's him.
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Trey Kirby
Maybe it's him.
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Tas Melas
And that was financial. No doubt about that. Yes. And Carlton Towns had more years than Rudy Gobert has on his contracts. It would just be a be a bit of a shot to Anthony Edwards. We went to two straight conference finals, but we are changing that guy behind you. That'd be big.
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J. Skeets
Well, yeah, but. But also, John Moran is better than Rudy Gobert now, maybe not in the makeup of this team and the success of this team. That's fair. But he is even at the level he's playing at right now.
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Tas Melas
And I think he'd be okay with Anthony Edwards as his number one bud. It's a risk, that's for sure.
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J. Skeets
Okay, so those are five potential trade ideas. Five teams that I threw at you. Any other potential Ja Morant landing spots that maybe you were cooking in the trade machine?
- [70:51]
Trey Kirby
I saw Eric Pincus at Bleacher Report had a Suns trade involved. Jalen Green, a 2027 first round draft pick and then a trade exception. I think the Suns would do that instantly.
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J. Skeets
They would do it in a heartbeat.
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Kofi Yoboa
Yes.
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J. Skeets
Yeah. John Morant. Booker.
- [71:04]
Trey Kirby
John Morant and Booker. And you know, if you're the Grizzlies, I'm not a big Jalen Green fan, but at least you're talking yourself into a young guy who's super talented and plays on the perimeter. So kind of one for one there, you're getting a pickback in return. Doesn't sound like a great return to me though. I would be very happy to take any sort of first round pick the Suns are offering up.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, that's fair. And I think it was. Was it one. One of the Tims or was it Windhorse himself on the hoop collective saying that it's not going to be the most robust trade market for John Moran? And that's why I Think we're in the right ballpark here with some of these, you know, potential trades. Packages like these are not wowing you, but that might be what it would be, Tess.
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Tas Melas
Oh, totally. Yeah. Who is the best player coming back to Memphis for him? I know. Literally, it wasn't that long ago he was getting MVP votes. It wasn't that long ago. So is it comparable to Kristaps Porzingis moving on from Dallas and the package that they got back from Washington or some better is the package?
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J. Skeets
I would think it would be a little bit better. A little bit better, but sort of in the same ballpark. Yeah.
- [72:13]
Tas Melas
Yeah. And Kristaps was an injured player, more so than John Morant, although Morant also injured at some point. So the Pelicans talk is fun to look at him besides Zion Williamson. But, but, but, but I don't know if the Pelicans are willing to do that.
- [72:32]
Trey Kirby
Why would they not be? They've got no pick going. It'd be like a way that they think they could save their season. I actually think it's super interesting. Like, who are you trading, though? Like, I don't think that the. The Grizzlies would really want, like, Jordan Pool's contract. I doubt. But I mean, it doesn't run any longer than John Morantz does. If they could get Trey Murphy, perhaps they do it. And one of the young guys, whether it be Derek Queen or Jeremiah Fierce Fears, has established himself more early on here. But, I mean, the Pelicans are crazy, man. It kind of makes sense. It's like you're going to lose a top three pick basically this season.
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Tas Melas
Right.
- [73:13]
Trey Kirby
Unless you trade for John Morant and then you're losing a top 15 pick. That does seem better to me to have John Morant and you're not losing the number one pick.
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Tas Melas
Yeah. That's why the Pelicans and the Kings seem to me to be the hottest teams to discuss this because the Kings are.
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Are.
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Tas Melas
They're in neutral. They ain't going anywhere. Whether or not they get John Morant or not, I just think the Pelicans, maybe I'm giving Joe Dumars and Troy Weaver a little bit too much credit or too much of a. A guide for them after what they've done this past summer, that it has just been mistake after mistake after mistake. And how. What it's materialized into right now that they would not want to just run on that treadmill because that's what it feels like with this team. It would be John Morant and a Zion who may Be healthy or not. It just doesn't feel like they're. They ain't going anywhere in that instance that they would at least want to try and go in a different. Get off that treadmill. Can I ride on the elliptical? Please Try and do something else.
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J. Skeets
Alex.
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Trey Kirby
Tucson.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, let's ride with Tucson. He's a bike man.
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J. Skeets
All right, well, let's hear from you guys out there. YouTube land, podcast land. Let's hear your best. Ja Morant. Morant, trade packages. What other teams could you see him maybe landing? And what would be good enough return for the Grizzlies to actually consider it? I'm sure we'll be talking a lot more about this, especially if John Morant's gonna like talk to the, to the press the way he did last night. No, he does not seem happy at all. He didn't seem to have let it go, that's for sure. All right, tonight's pick em game tasks. It's Tuesday night. We teased it already. It's gonna be a good one.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, I think so. The scad looking decent. Otherwise there's six games. We got Giannis going to Toronto. Havasuvlaki for me. Janice. We got magic Hawks. I'm going down, going down, going down to the fortress. Tonight, the game on NBC. But I picked Philadelphia Chicago because I was intrigued. These are 251 teams here leading the Eastern Conference Conference. It was a tough pick. Philadelphia going into Chicago. Philadelphia unbeaten on the road. How did that happen? Chicago unbeaten at home. How did that happen? Understandable. Trace taken the Bulls while Skeets and I are taking the Sixers to win by two points or. Yes, the Bulls. Excuse me, have to win by two points.
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J. Skeets
Bulls favorites here at home. No surprise. TK gotta back your team. But you feel confident about tonight's game?
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Trey Kirby
Yeah, they're playing at home. They look good. They've been taking away three pointers unlike they did against the Knicks. So definitely Philadelphia could get hot. If this was prime Joel Embiid, I would be feeling bad about this game because this guy dominated Chicago for like five straight seasons. They didn't beat him for ever, but it's a new era. Jared McCain is coming back and I throw the Sixers completely out of that room.
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J. Skeets
Oh, boy.
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Unknown Advertiser/Announcer
Okay.
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J. Skeets
Yeah. Jericho McCain back for the Sixers. Should be a good one. Philly, Chicago and yeah, Tass and I have Philly got one point to play with, but basically it's a pick em here. Whoever wins, gonna win this one. I have the early 10 lead after my Pacers My scrappy Pacers kept it close against the Bucks and I was one of those guys praying Giannis, hit that shot.
- [76:23]
Tas Melas
Get it over.
- [76:24]
J. Skeets
I needed no overtime because I was.
- [76:25]
Trey Kirby
Hoping for a miss.
- [76:26]
J. Skeets
Yeah. Yeah, you were hoping for a miss because you guys had the Bucks by. I guess they had to win by seven. So, you know, one of those classic. Get into overtime and the team goes on a run and you're good, but good job, Indiana. Way to lose in style. That's what I say.
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Tas Melas
Yeah. Lines going to overtime never makes sense to me. It's not logical. But I do think that six and a half point line going into Indiana was six and a half for a reason. Because it should have been bigger. I say it was. It should have. It should have. But the PA should have been bigger. It should have. Yeah. It's just like that. The one last week. What was yours?
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Trey Kirby
The.
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Tas Melas
That should have been.
- [77:02]
J. Skeets
Yeah. There was a. There was a line that I was questioning and I did get right.
- [77:05]
Trey Kirby
I forget what.
- [77:06]
Tas Melas
Because it should. That should have also been bigger. But. Yeah. Know Isaiah Jackson. Wow.
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J. Skeets
Well, what's the line on the Raptors tonight? What are the Bucks favored by going into Toronto?
- [77:14]
Tas Melas
I don't know. Trey's looking. Let's say. Let's say Tapper.
- [77:19]
Trey Kirby
Little tapper.
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J. Skeets
Yeah. I bet it's around five and a half. If Giannis is playing, he's questionable every night.
- [77:25]
Trey Kirby
Questionable every night. Back to back, Raptors favored by. By four and a half.
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J. Skeets
What?
- [77:30]
Ryan Seacrest
Oh, no.
- [77:31]
J. Skeets
You're on the same plan then.
- [77:32]
Trey Kirby
That's probably true.
- [77:33]
J. Skeets
Yeah.
- [77:33]
Trey Kirby
There's no way the Raptor should be favored.
- [77:35]
J. Skeets
No. Oh, okay. Fascinating.
- [77:37]
Tas Melas
All right.
- [77:38]
Trey Kirby
We also talked yesterday about must win game for the Pelicans. They got the Hornets.
- [77:44]
J. Skeets
Oh, yeah.
- [77:44]
Trey Kirby
Tonight, Hornets coming into the Blender.
- [77:47]
J. Skeets
Yeah.
- [77:48]
Trey Kirby
Two and a half point favorite, the Pelicans. And the over under is 236.5.
- [77:52]
J. Skeets
We were wondering how high that was going to be.
- [77:55]
Trey Kirby
So Both teams scoring 120 or more is the over, basically. That could happen.
- [78:00]
J. Skeets
It's in play.
- [78:00]
Trey Kirby
That could definitely happen. No defense on those teams.
- [78:03]
J. Skeets
All right.
- [78:03]
Trey Kirby
Except for Cal Brenner. This guy's a monster, man.
- [78:08]
Tas Melas
He's great.
- [78:08]
Trey Kirby
He's humongous.
- [78:10]
Tas Melas
Yeah.
- [78:10]
Trey Kirby
He's missed like three shots all season or something like that.
- [78:12]
Tas Melas
He's a dunk machine.
- [78:13]
Kofi Yoboa
Yeah.
- [78:14]
Trey Kirby
It helps to be big.
- [78:16]
Tas Melas
Hulk Brenner, he's in like 80% this season.
- [78:19]
Trey Kirby
Yeah, 81 so far.
- [78:21]
J. Skeets
Pretty sweet. Right around the rim. No doubt. Thanks to Kofi for coming on. That was a lot of fun. Again, make sure. You go give him a follow across all the social media channels. He is a very fun like shorts guy when it comes to like Instagram reels and stuff like that. Has some hilarious ones that go viral. So go check that out. Thanks to him. Thanks to you for joining us. We'll be back Tomorrow, Wednesday morning, 10:00am Eastern, talking about tonight's games. Talking about tasks down at the fortress. Taking in magic hog. Yeah, and a whole lot more. So we will see you then. Till then, Clipper bro, you heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up.
- [78:56]
Kofi Yoboa
Love you guys.
- [78:56]
Trey Kirby
Awesome.
- [78:57]
Tas Melas
Thanks for joining us. And remember, the Milwaukee Bucks could lose tonight. I'm already checking out their sked because.
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Unknown Advertiser/Announcer
They have some games where they don't perform.
- [79:08]
Trey Kirby
They lost to the Kings.
- [79:09]
Tas Melas
They lost to the Sacramento Kings. That's why I thought they would demolish the Pacers yesterday. That didn't happen happened. But they, they can lose.
- [79:19]
J. Skeets
That's right. Are the Raptors as proud as the Pacers? We'll find out tonight. Brace the day, people.
- [79:30]
Tas Melas
Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap.
- [79:33]
J. Skeets
You're almost at the finish line.
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Tas Melas
But first there, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.
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J. Skeets
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Ryan Seacrest
His newest film, the American Revolution, reveals untold stories of people, some familiar, many.
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J. Skeets
Forgotten, who risked everything to change the course of history.
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Ryan Seacrest
It's the story of a war that was bloody, complex and profoundly consequential. Ken Burns and his co directors Sarah.
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J. Skeets
Botstein and David Schmidt shine a light.
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Ryan Seacrest
On how this historic fight for independence.
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J. Skeets
Lit the spark for freedom that still burns today.
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Ryan Seacrest
The American revolution premieres Sunday, November 16th.
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J. Skeets
At 8, 7 Central on PBS.
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Ryan Seacrest
And the PBS app don't miss it.