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Jay Skeets (2:41)

Good evening, sweet world, and welcome to the no Dunks podcast, presented by FanDuel. It's Saturday night, February 14, 2026. Happy Valentine's Day to all you NBA sickos. I'm Jay Skeets here in the classic factory, which smells like pizza and farts. And alongside me, as always, Tasmolis.

Taz (3:00)

It wasn't me. Basketball lover, this is for you.

Jay Skeets (3:03)

Next to him, it's my top shot, hot boy, Trey Kirby. And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer JD Hello. There he is. Here we are. We just wrapped up our NBA All Star Saturday night watch party. Had the live stream going on YouTube. Appreciate everyone who joined us for that. If you're new here, hit the like button. Make sure you subscribe. Podcast listeners, go check out the live stream and then come back and leave us a five star rating and review. Actually, you know what? No five star ratings. 50s only here tonight for our all star Saturday night recap.

Tasmolis (3:39)

Just 150?

Jay Skeets (3:41)

Oh, no.

Tasmolis (3:41)

Just 150. But we want many 50s.

Jay Skeets (3:44)

Yeah. Dwight Howard would give this a 50.

Tasmolis (3:46)

Oh, yeah. Easily.

Jay Skeets (3:47)

Brent Barry, maybe not harsh judge. Yeah. Much more strict when it came to judging.

Taz (3:52)

Have you smells like farts in here. Then Dwight Howard would like.

Jay Skeets (3:56)

Oh, yeah. Did you say farts? 50. All right, so we're going to regap all that just went down here on All Star Saturday night. We'll maybe talk a little bit about Friday night, the celebrity game and the rising stars little tournament. And did have Chris Paul news. He is officially retired. But we start with Kesha Johnson dancing his way to a dunk contest. Wow, the dancing is infectious. This guy brought the energy. And some good dunks, no doubt. Let's start with you, TK Your thoughts on Keyshot Johnson winning and this whole thing, the whole dunk contest here tonight.

Tasmolis (4:31)

Keisha Johnson won. Good for him. He seized the opportunity. Kind of an unknown player around the league. You can't find a lot of his dunks even on heat social media, Right? So he said, I gotta make a name for myself. And guess what? He did. That's what you get for going in the dunk contest. We're gonna know who Keyshot Johnson is. Had some good dunks. Most notably, he was dancing at every opportunity. People think it helped. Like he. He squeaked into the finals just ahead of Jackson Hayes, only one on the scorecards at the end of two dunks in the first round. Was it from selling the dunks afterwards with his dancing? Maybe so, but the finals, yeah, and he showed nerves of steel. Kept dancing the whole time, even when the cards were down. Carter Bryant hits a big 50, first one of the night. What's Keyshot Johnson gonna do? He's gonna do a solid dunk. He's gonna get a 48. He did the windmill from the dotted line, but danced hard. And that got in Carter Bryant's head. How do I answer?

Jay Skeets (5:32)

The dance. Right, right.

Tasmolis (5:34)

And he couldn't meet the moment, unlike Keyshot, who did his thing.

Jay Skeets (5:36)

It is funny that Keyshot, arguably his worst dunk in the night, was his final dunk. You know, the. The windmill, as you called it, from well within the free throw line. That looked to be, I don't know, maybe three or four feet from the free throw line, but he did the windmill. But the other one's tas. I mean, the one. The first dunk took him an attempt or two, but he dunked over E40. He did a little, you know, hand behind the head, Karl Malone style as he was smiling. That guy has the biggest grin in the world. And then he did the two hand reverse because he switched it up after a couple of missed dunk attempts where he was trying to go baseline through the legs. But then he did that one in his first dunk of the final, and it was like, oh, that was his probably best dunk. He threw that one down and then. Yeah, like I said, the final windmill. But overall, not bad.

Taz (6:19)

No, not at all.

Jay Skeets (6:20)

The kid's dancing his art out.

Taz (6:23)

You know what they say, make sure you're dancing before your first dunk attempt. Because he came out there. He came out of the hallway dancing.

Jay Skeets (6:31)

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Showing his abs. And showed his abs a lot.

Tasmolis (6:35)

A lot, a lot of those abs.

Taz (6:37)

And his smile, also infectious. He just couldn't stop smiling the entire time. Yeah, he brought it. He did. Seize the moment. Carter Bryant lost the moment that could have been his losing the ball, slipping out of his hands on that reverse move after talking to Vince Carter mid 90 seconds that he had. You know, I don't know, he probably talked to Vince for about 15, 18 seconds after multiple misses. He just had to throw it down. Vince did talk him up. He looked like he was going to throw it down when he went up there. He just somehow reversed in the air. The ball was in his hands and it looked like it just slipped from the left to the right. And out. And so this could have been Carter Bryant's moment.

Jay Skeets (7:18)

I mean, it probably should have been.

Taz (7:19)

It should have been.

Jay Skeets (7:20)

And if he puts that down, you think he wins is what you're saying here.

Taz (7:23)

Yeah, I think everybody.

Jay Skeets (7:24)

He had the 150. He had the lone 50 in this dunk contest.

Taz (7:27)

The lone 50. He had it. And both those guys were smart in that they knew they didn't have to throw down something spectacular with their second dunk. Their second dunk on the first round, Kea Johnson and Carter Bryant, they just kind of threw it down. And what they had planned for their second dunk, they brought it for the third dunk in each of them. So the dunkers are getting smarter. That was obviously well planned.

Jay Skeets (7:49)

Well, they were helped out by one guy in Jackson Hayes having a hilarious brain fart and just dunking it. Honestly, we're thinking, is he going from the free throw line? No, he just. Just ran way back there and then ran up and then just did a dunk.

Taz (8:02)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (8:02)

So that was a big brain fart. And then obviously Jace Richardson, who was trying to get one off, like a pretty creative pass from this guy in a leather jacket off the corner of the backboard. And he was trying to, like, 360 while I caught it. You know, there's a lot of moving parts, is my point. And he was not really coming close to ever putting it down. And then he fell and wiped out on his ass and looked like he smoked his head. At first hair, at least.

Taz (8:28)

Yeah, well, he kept rubbing his head.

Jay Skeets (8:29)

Yeah.

Taz (8:29)

I mean, it's nice.

Jay Skeets (8:31)

We were a little concerned there for a second.

Taz (8:33)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't see that monitor at the bottom of it, so I couldn't see him lying on the ground. I had to. I said. I said shit. And I got up. Literally had to stand up to be able to see him on his back. And it's nice of us to start with the winner and the runner up.

Jay Skeets (8:47)

Yeah.

Taz (8:47)

But really, the two moments that are on social media right now, unfortunately, are that. Because unfortunately, Jason Richardson ran into the side of the backboard. He hit the side of the backboard, and it's Jackson Hayes. Those are the two moments that are taking over, because those are the moments. Not just because of what Twitter is right now, but because it wasn't a spectacular night otherwise.

Jay Skeets (9:09)

No, no. This is not as far as the dunk contest. Do you think this is the worst dunk contest of all time, though?

Tasmolis (9:16)

Not immediately, No. I don't think so. I think this was a perfectly fine Dunk contest. Just somewhere in the vast middle.

Jay Skeets (9:23)

Yeah. And a big part of that is we came in with the lowest of expectations. So that is playing a part here. And obviously no big names. Basically, nobody knows these guys.

Taz (9:32)

What happened to Jalen Dern? Just a question. I don't know. I know that would have been an all star. Who's there?

Jay Skeets (9:37)

But.

Taz (9:37)

Yes, yes. As far as these go. But you know the two guys, the young guys in Carter Bryant, Keisha Johnson, who's a little older actually, they were there.

Jay Skeets (9:46)

They were there. We always say it just takes two guys to give us a good dunk contest. And we were getting there. We got there until it just ended like a wet fart when Carter Bryant couldn't put down the final one.

Tasmolis (9:57)

I mean, the three things you're going to remember are Jackson Hayes, Jace Richardson and Carter Bryant. Running out of time.

Jay Skeets (10:03)

You don't think keyshot's dancing.

Tasmolis (10:05)

Maybe. So. Yeah. Yeah. When you're saying who winners of all time, his name will come up.

Taz (10:11)

Oh, yeah.

Tasmolis (10:11)

He was dancing the whole time, right?

Jay Skeets (10:13)

Yeah, that's what we'll first think. You're right.

Tasmolis (10:14)

But I mean, you could say that two things we saw, two things tonight that we'd never seen before. The worst made dunk of all time in Jackson Hayes. That's going to be on the list.

Jay Skeets (10:23)

It's. Yeah, it's there.

Tasmolis (10:24)

He just. He just ran up and dunked it.

Taz (10:27)

Unbelievable.

Tasmolis (10:28)

Even he was like, oh, man.

Jay Skeets (10:30)

I think he forgot where he was.

Tasmolis (10:32)

I forgot to do something. I saw what I was supposed to do when I was in the. Couldn't quite grasp it. And then Jace Richardson. It's gonna go down as one of the worst misses of all time.

Jay Skeets (10:42)

Yeah. Yeah. That's unfortunate for him.

Tasmolis (10:44)

Yes, I guess.

Jay Skeets (10:46)

Yeah. No, it is. That. That you wouldn't want. Like, what's worse, I think. I think Jace is gonna be like. Him falling, unfortunately, is worse than Jackson Hayes just doing a completely normal dunk.

Taz (10:59)

Yeah. Like his. Jackson Hayes's dunk. Worse than Chris Anderson.

Jay Skeets (11:04)

Like missing.

Taz (11:07)

Yeah. I think it is not as.

Jay Skeets (11:09)

Well, it's not as forgettable or. No.

Tasmolis (11:11)

Yeah.

Taz (11:12)

It's not as memorable.

Jay Skeets (11:12)

Yeah. Not as memorable. Yeah.

Guest or Producer (11:13)

Yeah.

Taz (11:15)

Because it's. It's just. He actually did dunk it. It's unbelievable that he came out there, didn't know what he was doing, and then he had to talk to his dunk coach. His dunk coach had to sit him.

Jay Skeets (11:30)

Down and tell him, hey, do you know where we are right now? This is what we.

Taz (11:34)

This is what we live for. And then he brought it on. The second dunk with the tap thing.

Jay Skeets (11:39)

Yeah, it was okay. It was okay.

Tasmolis (11:41)

It was better.

Jay Skeets (11:42)

He nearly made the final.

Tasmolis (11:43)

He was one point off.

Jay Skeets (11:44)

Yeah. It wasn't that much of a difference. And that was when keyshot was struggling a little bit on his second attempt, which was the one he did in the final, which was awesome. Like, off the bounce, through the legs, sort of under the rim. Look great in the final. But he was struggling with it on his second attempt, so he switched it up, and he wisely switched it up. I mean, that was just smart. He was aware. Can't say Jackson Hayes was a lot of this.

Tasmolis (12:05)

No, definitely not.

Jay Skeets (12:06)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (12:06)

Yeah, definitely not. And Jason Richardson, his first dunk was pretty good. It was kind of like J. Rich reignited dunk. That was the nickname they gave him. And he did do a father dunk.

Jay Skeets (12:17)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (12:18)

Replicating off the glass, you know, kind of turn and reverse. Looked good.

Jay Skeets (12:23)

Yeah. He's much smaller than his dad. He obviously can't jump as high. I mean. Yeah. Like, I was shocked by it because I talked all week about, like, I wish this guy can even dunk. Like. Like, I was. Like, I was joking, but sort of joking. Like, he sort of dunks like Kyrie Irving. Like, he just gets it over the.

Tasmolis (12:38)

Rib, gets it right.

Jay Skeets (12:38)

Any game dunk we've seen. But that did shock me. That was pretty good.

Taz (12:42)

It was.

Jay Skeets (12:42)

Yeah.

Taz (12:43)

It was a good start, that one.

Jay Skeets (12:44)

I mean, the guy who passing it was not doing a great job.

Taz (12:47)

Was the passer to blame? It's a fair question.

Jay Skeets (12:50)

It was difficult pass. He's trying to pass it off the.

Tasmolis (12:52)

Corner, off the foam, off the backboard.

Taz (12:54)

Yeah. And I would say the passer didn't get better after each attempt multiple times to try and give it to him. It wasn't a good spot. And that last one was really close. And literally, Jace Richardson ran into the side of the backboard because it was so close and hit the floor real hard.

Jay Skeets (13:12)

Why did they. Why did the pass have to come off the corner of the backboard? Couldn't you just moved over a little bit and just put it on straight glass?

Tasmolis (13:20)

Yep.

Jay Skeets (13:21)

Would have been the same thing.

Taz (13:22)

Like the actual glass. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jay Skeets (13:24)

It's just an easier pass is what I'm saying, To probably successfully complete.

Taz (13:28)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (13:29)

And so the dunker trying to do a 360. I get that.

Taz (13:32)

But. Yeah. And so the dunker doesn't run into the backboard. Well, that was a problem.

Jay Skeets (13:36)

Yeah.

Taz (13:36)

Yeah, he. And that's. And I. I bring up Social media, unfortunately, because those are the. The things we'll remember, as you said.

Jay Skeets (13:42)

Yeah.

Taz (13:43)

That Jackson. Maybe some dancing. Yes, yes.

Jay Skeets (13:50)

Should have been Carter Bryant's. But you were very upset about Vince Carter talking to him. You were. You were on the live stream. You. You were. In fact, I'm paraphrasing, but you're like, he should get another 10 or 20 seconds.

Taz (14:01)

Yeah, yeah.

Jay Skeets (14:02)

Because he was talking to Vince this.

Taz (14:04)

They each have 90 seconds. I think Vince started talking to him about 35 seconds left on the clock.

Jay Skeets (14:09)

Yeah, he's trying to hype him up.

Taz (14:10)

He's trying to. And he did.

Jay Skeets (14:11)

And he did.

Taz (14:12)

Good job. Because the dunk attempt looked pretty good.

Jay Skeets (14:14)

And also Carter Bryant, as the stream team was pointing out when we were doing this, they were like, he's basically doing Vince dunks. That's what Carter Bryant was doing. Like, worse versions of Vince Carter's awesome dunk.

Taz (14:24)

Yeah. The reason why I thought we could have got a time pause because Vince is part of the broadcast. He was bringing it tonight, you know, and so it could have just sort of been part of the show. Here's our pause. You know, here's our. In between the rounds of the boxer, you know, like, just give him a little. Little. Little huff. A little break. Yeah, just give him a sec. Just give him a sec.

Jay Skeets (14:46)

You got 90 of them. What are you talking about? Give him a sec. Here's 90 secs.

Tasmolis (14:51)

You gotta call a timeout in that scen. If you're having a full conversation with Vince Garner. I gotta take one here.

Taz (14:59)

A dunker should be able to get a timeout now.

Jay Skeets (15:01)

Oh, you want timeouts in the dunk contest?

Taz (15:03)

Like, you can call time when you're in the home run derby. You get one break.

Jay Skeets (15:09)

Step out.

Taz (15:09)

Give me one break during dunk contest. Actually, we'll get to batting practice. Pitchers sort of the vibe a little bit later on. But yeah, I. I do also think that it's because you can't pause the clock. Carter Bryant should have known. I gotta go offense. Like, I like you. I respect your game. I respect your performance in the dunk contest. I will always remember that. But please let me go dunk, because literally just ran out of time.

Jay Skeets (15:34)

But hold on. Like, Vince did his part. He got him hyped up. He said, come on, kid.

Tasmolis (15:38)

Is that your nickname?

Jay Skeets (15:39)

Yeah, they told us it was your new nickname. You're the kid. Go throw it down. And he threw it. Jamal Crawford on the broadcast, like, that's it. That's the one. Because it was a perfect toss.

Tasmolis (15:49)

He Was high enough.

Jay Skeets (15:50)

He was high enough. And he just like. You thought he like it slipped out of hand. I think he just like, he just had the angle ever so slightly wrong on the reverse thinking, obviously he's just going to put it straight in the rim.

Taz (16:00)

But he thought he was good, right? He thought, oh, yeah, while I'm up there.

Jay Skeets (16:03)

It was good. Yeah.

Taz (16:03)

Oh, it's going down. And yeah.

Jay Skeets (16:06)

And then he. And then. And then obviously the panic set in because then the clock was really low and it was like, okay, he's just trying to get it down.

Tasmolis (16:13)

Young Pep Dash is saying here in the stream team, he should have kept missing because if he misses all of his dunks and his time runs out, an untimed attempt.

Jay Skeets (16:22)

Wow.

Tasmolis (16:23)

You got to know the loopholes.

Jay Skeets (16:25)

Is that a real loophole?

Tasmolis (16:26)

I don't know. But young Pep Dash is saying it with authority and it sounds like something that they would have rule, doesn't it?

Jay Skeets (16:32)

So the clock ends and then one more.

Tasmolis (16:34)

You get to do one farmer's chance of one last.

Taz (16:40)

That would have been memorable. You win it after the clock, after the buzzer. That would have been awesome.

Jay Skeets (16:46)

Okay, so, yeah. Not the greatest dunk contest. No, Amazingly not the worst, which is pretty wild.

Tasmolis (16:53)

I would agree.

Jay Skeets (16:53)

It's. Yeah, we won't. Look, we'll be struggling to remember who won this dunk contest in, I don't know, probably next year with us as we're old. But give it a three or four years, we'll have no idea. We'll have to really rack our brain and go, yeah. Well, Keyshawn. No, Keyshawn.

Taz (17:08)

It's like. It's like Jeremy Evans won a dunk contest because he jumped over a paint. A painting of himself. Right?

Jay Skeets (17:16)

He painted, apparently. So that's basically Keyshawn like that. His, like his easel and paint was just dancing. It's the arts, baby. Give it up for the arts, JD.

Tasmolis (17:33)

People express themselves in different ways.

Taz (17:35)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll remember.

Jay Skeets (17:36)

Have we ever had spoken word or anything like that?

Tasmolis (17:39)

Anybody rapping the poet.

Taz (17:41)

So Aaron Gordon came out too. I'm a classic, man. But he didn't sing.

Jay Skeets (17:47)

No, Oladipo sang, didn't he?

Tasmolis (17:49)

Oh, yeah, Oladipo sang.

Taz (17:51)

Yeah, yeah. He's got good voice.

Jay Skeets (17:52)

New York, New York.

Taz (17:54)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (17:55)

Contest is so stupid.

Tasmolis (17:58)

Pretty dumb when you're talking about it.

Jay Skeets (17:59)

It's great. It's great.

Taz (18:01)

I just. I compared it to Jeremy Evans because it's like a similar guy that we won't remember, but we'll remember the painting more. So Than the dancing, I think anyways. Because it's just there's a visual that he did.

Jay Skeets (18:16)

Yeah. Like Fred Jones comes to mind, like when he won his dunk contest way back. Like, oh, that was not a good dunk contest. I mean, Fred Jones is like a. Everybody's like, who the hell is that type thing. Like, yeah, he's probably where. That's where we're at. But the problem, like, it's unfortunate because like we did have two guys that were throwing down dunks. They weren't taking a ton of attempts. They were bringing, you know, some energy, especially a lot of energy in Keyshot case. So, like the recipes are there. They were, they were trying. And they're also dunking at like four in the afternoon here. It's not even All Star Saturday night. We gotta change that lower third. It's All Stars Saturday evening or afternoon.

Taz (18:53)

Yeah. And. And as. Who said it here? Ink Hog neat. Oh, we said Jeremy Evans over the painting was actually 2013, the year Terence Ross won. So Jeremy Evans won it the year before when he didn't have the painting. You see, that's how much it's left. It's burned in my brain.

Jay Skeets (19:13)

Is that right?

Taz (19:14)

Yeah. You see, you guys didn't even call me.

Jay Skeets (19:16)

Jeremy Evans went in it again to defend his title.

Taz (19:19)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (19:20)

In 2012 he did jump over Gordon Hayward sitting in a chair. I remember that. Yes.

Tasmolis (19:26)

Yeah, he definitely did that.

Jay Skeets (19:27)

I don't know why I remember that, but I do. Yeah.

Taz (19:29)

Was Gordon Hayward painting?

Jay Skeets (19:30)

No, no, no, I think, I think Gordon threw him.

Taz (19:35)

Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, but we remember that even though he lost.

Jay Skeets (19:39)

All right, anyway, look, respect for them going in it.

Taz (19:42)

Jackson Hayes, come on. That's unbelievable.

Jay Skeets (19:45)

No respect to him.

Tasmolis (19:47)

No respect at all.

Jay Skeets (19:52)

I do not think that is a smart guy. I literally think he just like, where, where am I? What are we doing here?

Taz (19:58)

Yeah, that's fair.

Jay Skeets (19:59)

Oh, man.

Tasmolis (20:00)

Do I get a warm up?

Jay Skeets (20:01)

Any other thoughts on the dunk contest? Nice to see our guy Bones obviously scoring this. One of the judges, he had on the Clippers jacket from his dunk contest win 30 years ago to the not day maybe, but to the weekend at least.

Taz (20:15)

Yeah, somebody could have fixed it. He had his collar he was wearing underneath his jacket was like flared out over top of his jacket.

Jay Skeets (20:23)

Well, maybe that's why he took the jacket off.

Taz (20:25)

Uncomfortable.

Jay Skeets (20:26)

He only have it on at like the first one.

Taz (20:27)

Yeah, yeah. But when they got to him when they showed him on the camera, like, here's a Brent Barry. Somebody's gonna fix his collar.

Jay Skeets (20:34)

Anyway, I liked how strict he was with judging. He was the lawyer, should be back.

Tasmolis (20:38)

Almost the whole time.

Jay Skeets (20:39)

Him and Dr. J. Dr. J's been on a lot of these and he's always pretty good too.

Taz (20:42)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (20:43)

Dwight Howard, he was like sort of.

Taz (20:44)

Brent was calling him out. Brent was looking at Dwight. What are you doing? 49 on that? Dwight, come on.

Jay Skeets (20:49)

Yeah, yeah. And McGetty. And who's the other one? There was somebody else there. Dominique was. He's pretty kind when it comes to the dunks. He's done this a lot, too. I need somebody to do a breakdown on how many, like, who's our all time dunk contest judge, leader, like, who's doing the Most. I think Dr. J's got to be the leader.

Tasmolis (21:11)

Yeah, it's kind of like LeBron. He's got the longevity. He started so long as he did it.

Taz (21:16)

So far, so long ago. Yeah, I do want to know. Just Giannis was there really into the dunk contest. That guy just loves everything. And we'll get to Damian Lillard and how we respect how much he respects the game. But yeah, Yannis was there at celebrity contests or the celebrity game. He was the coach and he was into it. He was eating popcorn and getting interviewed. Not playing charms, not playing choms.

Jay Skeets (21:38)

He sucks at hooping. He's saying he might be right.

Taz (21:40)

He's saying we're not stacked. You know why? Because we got shams out there. That guy can't hoop. But he's there the next night. He didn't have to be here at the dunk contest. He didn't have to, but he was into it. Like with the dunkers.

Jay Skeets (21:52)

He's recording it on his phone.

Tasmolis (21:54)

Yep.

Jay Skeets (21:55)

Why?

Taz (21:56)

Yeah, it's like an old man.

Tasmolis (21:58)

You don't think he honest watches it back?

Jay Skeets (21:59)

No, I don't. I don't. I'm sorry.

Taz (22:02)

Show it to his kids.

Jay Skeets (22:04)

Maybe he hands it off to like a social media manager for his accounts. Like, hey, do I have anything, can you edit this? But yeah, his kids are.

Taz (22:14)

Yeah, he's into it. He's. He is so into it. He would have been so into playing tomorrow night at the All Star game because he really wanted this USA versus the world thing.

Guest or Producer (22:24)

True, true.

Taz (22:25)

He picked it up.

Jay Skeets (22:26)

He likes basketball there on the bench, I guess with team World, right?

Taz (22:31)

Yeah, yeah, I would think so. Unless. Unless as Damian Lillard asked him in the hallway after winning the three point contest. Unless he's got some, some Kelsey thing to do. Damien Lillard asked him, did you play some money on Calshi? On me to win the three point contest. And that's caught on camera and he said whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. Don't do that buddy, don't do that. That's too fun.

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Jay Skeets (25:53)

The three point contest. Let's talk Dame. Let me hit you with a McMenamin lead here. Damian Lillard hasn't played in a game this season for the Portland Trail Blazers as he recovers from an Achilles tear. But when he stepped on the court for Saturday's All Star three point Shootout, it was Dame time. Just as always. Thanks, McMenamin for that. Dame won competition with a final round score of 29. Edged out Booker. He edged out Knipple. This was fun because those were our three picks to win this thing. I had Booker, you had Khan, you had Damian Lillard. So we all had our guy in the end. And Booker, I guess, sort of similar to Carter Bryant in a way, had a chance to win this thing. Had basically had to hit what, two out of the final three balls. Two out of three of his money ball rack, and he wins it.

Taz (26:37)

Yeah. And just one to tie it to go on.

Jay Skeets (26:41)

Right. So just two out of three and he has it. But he misses his final three and Damian Lillard gets it with a very good score and obviously a really great performance. And he did it all in pants.

Tasmolis (26:49)

Did it all in pants. That was my first note. All caps, pants. A lot of guys were wearing pants so only fitting like an elastic waistband that a guy rocking full legs would win it. But dame. Yeah, a 29 like you're saying. Booker, I think had 30 and the first round could have got to 31 or 33 if he made his shots at the end. Very high scores all around, but cool that Dame did it. Like we're gonna get into. The dude really respects All Star Saturday night.

Taz (27:16)

Yep.

Tasmolis (27:17)

And he's one of the all time greats. Maybe this helps him enter the great shooters competition. As somebody mentioned when we were live streaming, like, hey, he's got three championships. That's pretty good. And you know, he's got like top 10 all time in makes, shoots, a good percentage, deep range. One of the all time greats.

Jay Skeets (27:35)

Playoff series walk off. Yeah.

Tasmolis (27:37)

So, yeah, put some respect on Dame Lillard's name.

Jay Skeets (27:40)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (27:40)

Cool for him to get a win. Undefeated this year.

Taz (27:44)

Wow. One for one baby. Yeah. Respect to him. Respect him for doing it again. I did see on Fanduel today there were odds for each shooter and where they're gonna hit or if they were gonna hit from the starry ball.

Jay Skeets (27:58)

Don't call it that.

Taz (27:59)

Yeah. It was called starry ball until tonight. Until the state farm ball. And Dame had the best odds because he hit some deep balls and he was ready for this moment. So good for him.

Jay Skeets (28:08)

I don't think anybody in the contest hit both from the logo. State Farm deep balls in the same.

Taz (28:15)

I don't think.

Jay Skeets (28:16)

I don't think so.

Tasmolis (28:17)

There weren't a lot of deep ball makes, period. Yeah, I think.

Jay Skeets (28:20)

Yeah. Booker hit up every once in a while.

Tasmolis (28:21)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (28:22)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (28:22)

But I don't think Dame hit one at least.

Jay Skeets (28:24)

Yeah. Maybe another one or two.

Tasmolis (28:26)

Sure.

Jay Skeets (28:27)

Yeah.

Taz (28:27)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (28:27)

Anyway, this was awesome.

Taz (28:29)

Great.

Jay Skeets (28:29)

Starting with it, I think.

Tasmolis (28:30)

Yes.

Jay Skeets (28:31)

You know, I mean you could argue you could end with this thing.

Tasmolis (28:34)

Start with it and end it.

Jay Skeets (28:35)

Well, you heard my idea on the live stream. This should be the only thing on all star side.

Tasmolis (28:40)

That's it.

Jay Skeets (28:40)

But we have like 100 shooters.

Tasmolis (28:43)

Like a deep tournament, 64 teams.

Jay Skeets (28:45)

Yeah. Yeah.

Tasmolis (28:45)

Oh, you gotta shoot a lot of times.

Jay Skeets (28:47)

Oh, it'd be fun. Now once we expand to 32 teams.

Tasmolis (28:51)

Everybody sends a representative, everybody sends a rep. That's interesting.

Jay Skeets (28:54)

We just have a advanced. We're just shooting, baby. We could just put them. We could do it like old school, like they used to do it. Two shooters at once, split screen. We could fly through that. Be fun as hell.

Tasmolis (29:05)

Why not?

Jay Skeets (29:06)

That'd be really cool.

Taz (29:06)

Anyway, this is always dependent the positive about that. No one would say no to a three bunker. Unlike the dunk on test.

Jay Skeets (29:12)

Yeah, well, yeah.

Taz (29:13)

Like they'll never say no. I'm not going to shoot. That would never happen. They're all.

Jay Skeets (29:17)

They're in the NBA. They're majority when there's no defense.

Taz (29:22)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (29:23)

And these are the best of the best.

Taz (29:24)

Yeah. And production wise it was cool to see the fireworks behind the background.

Jay Skeets (29:30)

Yeah. The stanchion.

Taz (29:31)

Yeah. Those kind of neat like as a shot goes down. Like. I don't know if it blinded anybody. I blinded a shooter. I don't think so.

Jay Skeets (29:38)

When were they firing the fire off? Like definitely between racks or like on big makes or was it just definitely.

Taz (29:46)

For the long balls? Like if you. If you did hit the state farm slash starry ball. Yes.

Jay Skeets (29:54)

It went off other times.

Taz (29:56)

Other times. Yeah. It was hard to tell when. But it looked cool. It looked cool on camera.

Tasmolis (30:00)

Anytime I lead Them a little more juice.

Taz (30:03)

Passed it off.

Jay Skeets (30:04)

Yeah. I thought you were going to bring up when you said production, the camera guy they had in the one corner. Camera guy or woman? I'm not sure. Um, they were doing the worst job of the night because they were the whole night. Obviously they were moving too much with their camera because they were behind the shooter, behind the rack. And they were really always wanted you to see the guy pick up the ball and so he would go over and then because of the graphics on the left hand side of the screen, sometimes he would not get back in time to then see whether the shot went in. Yeah. And it was always in that. I guess I don't know what you call that.

Tasmolis (30:38)

Bottom right corner.

Jay Skeets (30:39)

Yeah, bottom right corner. Sure. Yeah. You're looking at the rim. Yeah. On the right side. So that happened a lot. There was a couple times we're like, did it go in?

Tasmolis (30:46)

That's got to be a blocked off camera. I may be one wide angle lens. What do you think, J.D. how do we keep that, how do we keep that in frame so we can see? I mean, I don't care that much about reaching for the rack.

Jay Skeets (30:55)

No, we don't need to see them pick up.

Tasmolis (30:58)

If you want to see it, what's the best way to accomplish that?

Guest or Producer (31:01)

Well, yeah, I mean, you're exactly right. Like either pick the rack or the arc in the air. And I would argue, I would argue you don't need to see the ark.

Taz (31:09)

Right.

Guest or Producer (31:10)

You want to see the grab and the basket go in. But when it flies out of frame, I know it's where it's headed.

Jay Skeets (31:16)

Yeah, yeah.

Guest or Producer (31:17)

You don't need all of it. That's the thing that was causing all the movement, I think.

Jay Skeets (31:21)

Yeah, well, yeah, because he just. Yeah, it kept going, rocking back and forth where all the other ones it felt like that wasn't an issue. We were always seeing it. But anyway, it was very entertaining. And Lillard joins Larry Bird and Craig Hodges as the only three time winners of the event, which started in 1986. So I imagine he's going to go in this again. Why wouldn't Damian Lillard compete again? He's not even playing this year. He's in the thing, so he'll have a go at number four. And to have the all time record.

Taz (31:49)

You called Devin, who got there super, super close to Dame. And I wanted to bring up this tweet here because it's an observation from our friend, our old friend coach Nick, who says Devin Booker started in the left corner unlike everyone else. I thought Conka Nipple did. But anyway, he said the cheat code is that it allows him to have the initial rack on his right side. That means the right corner rack is also on his right side. And it led to a 30 point round. How did the others not know this?

Tasmolis (32:20)

What are they.

Taz (32:22)

Yeah, I'm a little confused. Coach Nick never messes up. But.

Jay Skeets (32:25)

But what are we running here? What rack are we running here?

Tasmolis (32:29)

What are we racking here?

Taz (32:33)

Yeah. I don't get that. Yeah. Sorry to bring that up, but I thought, I thought, I thought maybe somebody.

Jay Skeets (32:39)

Was getting angry at us for a second.

Taz (32:41)

No, no, no. But what anyway.

Tasmolis (32:47)

Is important.

Taz (32:48)

It's super important.

Jay Skeets (32:49)

Yes, but the start that came up with that. No, that's our very own Le Ellis. Yeah. Who was early to the game. Who helped Steph Curry arguably win his first three point contest.

Taz (32:58)

Oh yeah. And yeah.

Tasmolis (33:00)

And Del Curry to this day is talking about rack placement.

Jay Skeets (33:03)

Yep.

Taz (33:03)

So he's saying on the broadcast. He's. He was advising that for Con Canipple, who was great finishing third.

Jay Skeets (33:09)

Hey man, that's pretty good. Yeah, that's right. And they obviously the whole thing was like, who was the worst shooter, what was the worst score? Bobby.

Tasmolis (33:18)

Bobby had a low score and there's Maxi.

Jay Skeets (33:20)

I feel like had it made.

Tasmolis (33:21)

Max had a low score. He might have had the lowest.

Jay Skeets (33:23)

Okay. But you know, a lot of other decent scores because we were like, I always like when the starts because you're like, oh, what's it going to take to make the final?

Tasmolis (33:30)

Yep.

Jay Skeets (33:30)

And we were like, ah, probably 25. I think we were throwing out. I don't know. We were pretty close. Well, I guess he had to almost be higher than that. But they all were. So. Yeah, you had to put down a good score and they. A lot of guys did. So it was great. Donovan Mitchell, I like, he seemed pissed that he wasn't in the final. He's like, damn. Yeah, he wanted it. These guys want it. He had pants on too.

Tasmolis (33:47)

He just can't stop.

Jay Skeets (33:48)

Is it cold in the Intuit Dome? We need a report.

Tasmolis (33:50)

Let's hear. Was it cold in the Intuit Dome?

Jay Skeets (33:53)

The igloo, they could call it, if it's really cool. The ice. They have the ice wall.

Taz (33:59)

Oh wow.

Tasmolis (34:00)

Yeah. Like Game of Thrones, the wall.

Jay Skeets (34:02)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (34:02)

Perfect. Curious that the wall was so well attended.

Jay Skeets (34:08)

Oh yeah, yeah.

Taz (34:09)

So fired up.

Jay Skeets (34:10)

Well, they're paid actors.

Tasmolis (34:11)

Locals.

Jay Skeets (34:11)

Yeah.

Taz (34:12)

Local.

Jay Skeets (34:12)

Our friends at. Hello and welcome, Will and Alex and our guy Jerome, who we had on the monitor behind us with Ash for most of the live stream. They were hypothesizing from Friday night's events at least that they were paid actors on the wall. The rest of the place was empty, apparently. Yeah, I don't know about tonight. I can't speak to that. But Friday night it was like half empty for this, for the Rising Stars game. And. But that wall was still.

Tasmolis (34:35)

That wall was filled.

Taz (34:36)

Some inside information. We got some inside information that said it was pretty empty tonight as well.

Jay Skeets (34:41)

Yeah. Yeah. Well, and that. And that's three o' clock in the. Two o' clock in the afternoon. So it's a weird time for people.

Taz (34:48)

And that's in part why they started with the dunk contest. Excuse me? The three point contest. So it didn't start with the. The shoot around.

Jay Skeets (34:55)

They were trying. What you're saying is they're trying to get people in their seats to the start of it. Because if it's a skills competition or shooting stars, nobody's gonna show up. They'll be like, I'll show up an hour in.

Taz (35:05)

Exactly. Yes.

Jay Skeets (35:05)

Maybe you show up for the three point contest. Yeah, yeah. But didn't work.

Taz (35:09)

Well, guess not. Guess that. Not. Not full. Anyway.

Jay Skeets (35:13)

Any other thoughts on the three point contest? Yeah, no, just. Good, good. Should we end with it? Should it be the final?

Tasmolis (35:19)

Give it a shot. Why not start with the dunks? Yeah. Less pressure. Try it, try it, try it. Literally, we'll try anything with All Star Weekend, except it has to end with the dunk contest. Change the format a hundred times. Three point contest used to be split screen. We've done 8,000 different formats of the All Star Game.

Jay Skeets (35:38)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (35:39)

Just try the three point contest last. Let's see what happens.

Jay Skeets (35:42)

The good thing about that is, like, you know, you're just going to end on a fairly like above average moment.

Tasmolis (35:47)

Yep.

Jay Skeets (35:48)

Like, more times than not, I know you could have the odds like, wow, that guy in the final really shit the bed and he couldn't hit a shot. It's like, okay, that doesn't happen all that often. It's pretty close. It like more times than not comes down to like a final rack. It's like, oh, here we go. Can he do it? Can he win it or not? And obviously Booker didn't tonight in the end, but the dunk contest is like the ultimate high or the ultimate low. And it was like tonight was like.

Tasmolis (36:10)

A. Oh, we had a chance.

Jay Skeets (36:12)

Damn. All right. Another event made its return to us here tonight. The Shooting Stars is back in our life. What was it? 11 year hiatus?

Tasmolis (36:22)

Wow.

Jay Skeets (36:22)

Yep.

Tasmolis (36:24)

I didn't know it had been that long.

Jay Skeets (36:26)

It'd been that long. And you know, after Chris Paul and Wembanyama ruined the skills competition, they completely broke it. Didn't take it seriously. At the shooting spots in last year's event, they just like throwing the balls because they knew, oh, this is just a time thing. Get them out of the way. Anyway, we had the shooting Stars and we had all these teams and you had seven spots to shoot from. And then we learned tonight, I swear we didn't know this. A celebrity passer was incorporated to all these teams who played like a sort of important part. Not like you got to hit the shots like those are the most important part, but like you could sort of screw up bad passes or where you put them. And we saw a couple hilarious passes, especially from Drew Ski to Scotty Barnes. One in particular sailed like 10ft over his head. And I don't appeared to hit somebody. I didn't hit Jason Richard. And so yeah, we had all these passers, these celebrity passers. And Rick Brunson for team Knicks who was the star of the night to us as he helped his son and his team get the win.

Taz (37:27)

Like I can pass. Those are sweet passes.

Jay Skeets (37:30)

He was had the most zip on his passes. 100%. That's an assistant coach right there.

Taz (37:34)

Yeah. We brought player. Yeah. When and when you mentioned like a, A practice pitcher, like in batting practice.

Jay Skeets (37:44)

Yeah. The Home Run Derby.

Taz (37:45)

Yeah. Yeah. He was your guy. You brought him up. You brought that.

Tasmolis (37:48)

You know that position has to groove it.

Jay Skeets (37:50)

Yeah.

Taz (37:51)

Jesus Figueroa, he was a great Blue Jays one way back when. He was fantastic. Unfortunately, some of the things on social media were, as you said, Drew Ski throwing it into the front row. Yeah. We did not expect a celebrity passer. We just thought, I just personally thought there would be a rack at each spot so they could just go to a rack and shoot it. Which makes sense.

Jay Skeets (38:17)

Well, I thought they were going to do the whole like you got one ball between your team that's like.

Taz (38:21)

And just hustle after the ball.

Jay Skeets (38:22)

That's how they used to do it until they got to the half court shot and then they could just pull a bunch of balls. Maybe I'm misremembering it, but I don't.

Tasmolis (38:29)

Remember having a passer involved at all.

Jay Skeets (38:31)

No, no, but I'm saying you rebounded your own shot to get it to your other buddy and it was more.

Tasmolis (38:35)

Of a dance like that bounced off though. What would they do? Just got a free ball.

Jay Skeets (38:41)

Maybe. Maybe. Yeah.

Taz (38:42)

That's why I Think the racks solves it.

Jay Skeets (38:44)

But you want seven racks.

Taz (38:47)

I know.

Jay Skeets (38:48)

And then we got Nick coach saying, oh, what side?

Taz (38:51)

I think the NBA can afford seven racks to put out there. So. Yeah. But I will say Jalen Brunson and the Rick Brunson relationship. That was great. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because Jalen Brunson got the mic before he went for the first round and said, I'm not happy right now. But it all came back around to explain itself. He just. That's his thing with his dad. He just. He's just the jokey thing with his dad.

Jay Skeets (39:19)

Right. Whenever Rick is around, he was not upset to be at the Shooting Stars event or to be at All Star Weekend. It was more joke. I just have to do this with my dad.

Taz (39:27)

Yeah. And honestly, it's good that Drew Ski wasn't there for the second round because he was horrendous. Rick Brunson was the guy. Who are the other passengers?

Jay Skeets (39:38)

Anthony Anderson. It was okay, actually. Two chains and two chains was. Yeah, fine. His team obviously didn't make it.

Taz (39:44)

Yeah, yeah. Those three were good.

Jay Skeets (39:46)

Yeah, yeah.

Taz (39:46)

I mean, Drewski kind of. I think he kind of wanted the moment for himself. Like when he threw it out into the front row or eighth row, he's gonna.

Jay Skeets (39:54)

Was he making a social media moment with that? Is that what you're throwing out there?

Taz (39:59)

No, I like it. I don't know.

Tasmolis (40:01)

But with it did it for the, for the memes.

Taz (40:03)

The sell afterwards was definitely.

Jay Skeets (40:05)

Yeah, yeah. It's like, come on, pass the ball.

Taz (40:08)

Yeah, okay. But what we didn't like is that the seventh spot wasn't at mid court. Yeah, that's kind of weird.

Jay Skeets (40:13)

The best part about the old Shooting Stars competition was Chris Bosh inevitably hitting a half court shot. That was fun.

Tasmolis (40:19)

It was exciting.

Jay Skeets (40:20)

So then they take that best part out of this and have them shoot like just a deep three. That Corey McGetty props to him. He was splashing off his one legged deep balls. But come on, man, go to half court. What are we doing?

Tasmolis (40:32)

Yeah, we. We see these shots that long every night.

Jay Skeets (40:35)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (40:35)

From the logo. But I got to give some Credit to Corey McGetti. Like you said, he. He was Chris Bosch esque.

Jay Skeets (40:42)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (40:42)

In this one. And as he kept making, he made three in a row in the finals. And after he made the second one hit the fist pound, after he hit the third one, he's strutting it off as the ball is in the air. He was feeling it like. That was one of the hottest shooting nights of Corey McEtti's career.

Taz (40:58)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (40:58)

What's funny is they lose.

Taz (40:59)

They lose. Yeah, probably.

Jay Skeets (41:01)

He was awesome. Did Alan Houston hit that many shots for the team Knicks?

Tasmolis (41:06)

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know who. I mean, Towns was hitting a lot of.

Jay Skeets (41:09)

Yeah, I think it was the NBA guys, the NBA All Stars doing the heavy lifting for them. I don't remember hitting a ton. Maybe did. I don't know. But yeah.

Tasmolis (41:17)

Anyway, gotta go back and check.

Jay Skeets (41:19)

Yeah.

Taz (41:23)

Scotty Barnes also not hitting shots. No, no. I will just say, all in all, entertaining.

Jay Skeets (41:30)

It's better than the skills competition.

Taz (41:31)

Oh, not a question.

Jay Skeets (41:33)

It's just better.

Taz (41:34)

Not even a question.

Tasmolis (41:35)

Final round was good.

Jay Skeets (41:36)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The celebrity passing.

Tasmolis (41:40)

If the celebrity passers are going to be that big of an influence on the scores, they need to be on the headshots with the other guys.

Jay Skeets (41:46)

Right.

Tasmolis (41:46)

So it's got to say Team All Stars plus Drew Ski.

Jay Skeets (41:48)

Right. Well, they handed Rick Brunson a Victor Solomon.

Tasmolis (41:51)

He got a victor. Yeah, he was flexing the victor.

Jay Skeets (41:55)

To the vict goes the Solomon. Is that what we came up with? That's our new slogan. Everybody gets a Solomon. Yeah, you're right. It's important. And I don't think we even knew Rick Brunson was going to be on this team.

Tasmolis (42:07)

No.

Taz (42:08)

Until like, on this team.

Jay Skeets (42:09)

Until they announced it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is still. Why was there even a team Knicks to begin with? Throw them in there.

Tasmolis (42:15)

Not a team Clippers.

Jay Skeets (42:16)

But they won. But they won. Yeah. Team Clippers. Why aren't there team Clippers?

Tasmolis (42:23)

It's going to be Kawhi Harden and Zubots.

Jay Skeets (42:24)

But you know, Kawhi Harden, Brent Barry or Kawhi Harden and Corey McGet or.

Taz (42:28)

Yep.

Jay Skeets (42:29)

I wonder if this could have done it.

Tasmolis (42:31)

Interesting.

Jay Skeets (42:33)

Probably not. I mean, I don't know. Who knows? Who cares? What else do we have? Tonight we had Ludacris performing Stand Up, Turn on Mike. Hey.

Tasmolis (42:43)

It was on in some formats.

Jay Skeets (42:45)

Apparently some local affiliates heard the Ludicrous concert. We did not. I don't know about you out there. We. We were watching on Peacock here in the classic Factory victory. And for us, we legit could not hear Ludicrous rapping. Like, it was just. His mic was not on. It would every once in a while like, cut in for a second stand and like when I put my necklace. But for the most part, we couldn't hear a thing. And it became sort of. Sort of funny. But I guess other people were hearing it and in arena, people were hearing it. We have people like on the Scene were saying, oh yeah, it was great. You could hear him. You could hear him.

Taz (43:24)

Yep.

Jay Skeets (43:24)

You were disappointed. You like music. You're grand hill about it.

Taz (43:27)

And I'm a grand hill about it.

Jay Skeets (43:29)

This was disappointing. This was disappointing for you.

Taz (43:32)

You know. You know what the good thing about it was? It wasn't super long. The NBA can mess up on Saturday nights quite often, right? Eating time for no reason. Like their tazmal is telling a soliloquy for no reason. But he did four tight songs even though we didn't hear him.

Jay Skeets (43:55)

It was three or four. Yeah.

Taz (43:56)

But I looked at the clock. I just checked. I was checking that clock. I'm keeping the time here. It's like I'm Matt Austin or I'm Tim Frank or Paul Benedict. I just want to be the time here.

Jay Skeets (44:07)

My favorite thing about is you keep time on things more than anyone. But somehow we're always late. Make it make sense. Well, are on timing for everything.

Taz (44:19)

Yeah, yeah. Not. Yeah, not great. They're not great at the beginning. It's all about the ending. It's all about the close.

Tasmolis (44:25)

It's all about the cl. It's all about the.

Taz (44:27)

I was concerned.

Jay Skeets (44:28)

This whole thing took three hours still. And.

Taz (44:30)

Yeah, you were.

Jay Skeets (44:30)

Like when we. When you first showed up, you were like, this is going to be three hours.

Taz (44:32)

Yeah. I couldn't believe it. They had a three hour, three hour block here in the middle of this Winter Olympics. I was surprised by that. On a regular Saturday night, nothing else going on. Yeah.

Tasmolis (44:42)

Not on Olympic Saturday.

Taz (44:43)

Eat. Three. Three hours.

Jay Skeets (44:45)

This is actually. This is why they put it at 5, because primetime in Milan, 8 o'. Clock. Of course. I've been watching the Olympics and right now there are no Olympics going on because of the time difference. Like it all happened.

Tasmolis (44:57)

This is editing time.

Jay Skeets (44:58)

I don't think anything is actually live right now. It's like the middle of the night in Italy.

Taz (45:01)

Well, yeah, it's done after six probably.

Jay Skeets (45:03)

Yeah. Yeah. Right, right.

Taz (45:04)

Yeah. It's like midnight.

Jay Skeets (45:05)

Yeah. I'm just saying they had nothing else to show.

Taz (45:09)

Yeah. Anyways, didn't need too much time. Luda didn't need too much time. Even though we didn't hear us particular. I guess the mics were working as.

Jay Skeets (45:17)

We were going through.

Taz (45:20)

We're asking. I was asking JD well, what's going on in the truck? What's happening? What? Why is that one particular mic off anyway?

Tasmolis (45:28)

He said busting with the boys. It was the problem. Busing with the boys.

Jay Skeets (45:33)

I didn't understand what you were talking about. What did the bus with the boys.

Tasmolis (45:37)

Have to do with this? Having trouble routing.

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Jay Skeets (45:40)

You care to explain what happened in.

Guest or Producer (45:42)

All, like, I honestly don't know, but fits. But it's coming off the board. The soundboard. So if it's bused to the truck and they're hearing it in the truck and they're hearing it in the arena, but it's not going out to the live feed, or there's a mix that goes to the live feed, it. It could be going through like a, A, S and P person stand standards and practice. And that person was just leaning on the button the whole time.

Taz (46:05)

Who knows? Okay. It's like when were doing worst of the week on Friday and. And we could hear what I was calling a worst of the week nominee. The NBA broadcast the voiceover guy saying Jill and Brown making his first career All Star game. We could hear that.

Jay Skeets (46:23)

Yeah.

Taz (46:24)

But people watching couldn't.

Guest or Producer (46:26)

That's right. It was incorrectly bust. Thanks for bringing that up, Cash.

Taz (46:30)

What a dick.

Jay Skeets (46:31)

Okay. Busing with the boys.

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Taz (46:35)

Directed for the podcaster.

Jay Skeets (46:36)

Will and Taylor hear it tonight. I need to know now, could they hear Ludicrous in the Bus? The other thing with the Ludicrous performance is there was a small. I don't know, at least for like a minute or two where we weren't sure if he was wearing the fake big arms or not.

Tasmolis (46:55)

He was jacked.

Jay Skeets (46:56)

Because he was jacked. And I guess I didn't realize how jacked Ludacris had become.

Taz (47:01)

Wasn't he jacked in when he did Fast and the Furious?

Tasmolis (47:03)

Yeah. I just don't think of him as like a. Like, I think a Dr. Dre and Busta Rhymes and Timbaland as guys who got, like, notoriously very strong and muscular.

Jay Skeets (47:18)

Yeah.

Taz (47:18)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (47:19)

But I guess Ludicrous has as well.

Jay Skeets (47:20)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (47:21)

And he was showing off the guns like he'd been working. I'm sure he got a nice pump in right before the show started. And he was. He was arms forward.

Jay Skeets (47:28)

He's got good triceps. We said really huge. Yeah. He's working on.

Guest or Producer (47:33)

Anyway.

Jay Skeets (47:33)

Unfortunately, we couldn't hear it. But also probably would have hit a lot better in Atlanta maybe than la. I don't know. Yeah, whatever.

Tasmolis (47:44)

He makes a crowd. Friendly rap or he.

Jay Skeets (47:47)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (47:47)

You know, these are not new songs. We were here.

Jay Skeets (47:49)

I told Nora, like, when I was heading over here, I'm like. She's like, what else is happening? Ludacris is performing Ludicrous. What? That's all they could get. And I was. I Took offense to it for Luda. I was like, what are you talking about? That's not a bad.

Taz (48:03)

No.

Jay Skeets (48:03)

I'm like, nora, you gotta remember, like, they're not paying top dollar. We're not getting Kendrick Lamar. I mean, he's already done it. First off, we're not getting someone like that level. You gotta go like a guy that's like, maybe needs some money a little bit, like, to do the performance.

Taz (48:17)

You're saying Luda needs money?

Jay Skeets (48:19)

I'm saying he did it for money.

Tasmolis (48:23)

For the love of the throwback.

Jay Skeets (48:25)

You're right. A lot of these people keep showing up. Anthony Anderson, he's been at 100 of these now. Queen Latifah, always there.

Tasmolis (48:30)

Always there.

Jay Skeets (48:30)

Kevin Hart, incredibly not there, but usually they all are. And I'm like, convinced. They just tell their agents, like, I want to be at NBA All Star Weekend. I like being around the guys, social media. I'm saying I would.

Taz (48:44)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (48:45)

Hell, like, I wanted to be in the Celebrity Game forever.

Taz (48:48)

I get what Nora is saying, though. He hasn't made a. Yeah. A hit for a while.

Jay Skeets (48:51)

She's just was shocked.

Taz (48:52)

What NBC is going with the old heads. John Tash tomorrow. Lenny Kravitz doing the intro a few weeks ago.

Guest or Producer (49:00)

Yeah, that's the problem that. This is the problem with All Star. Right? Like, you guys love it. You're all 40 plus guys.

Jay Skeets (49:07)

Yeah, we don't. Hold on. Love it.

Guest or Producer (49:09)

I mean, the all. All Star Weekend. You're telling me you don't love All Star Weekend?

Jay Skeets (49:13)

Okay, comp.

Guest or Producer (49:14)

We've been doing this for 20 years.

Jay Skeets (49:15)

Everybody else. Yeah, okay. I had the time of my life tonight. Yes, exactly.

Guest or Producer (49:20)

Exactly. It was a pretty mediocre night at best. And you guys are having the time of your lives.

Jay Skeets (49:25)

Oh, we had mellow mushroom pizza.

Guest or Producer (49:26)

Yeah, okay, fair enough, Fair enough. But everybody's excited about John Tesh. John Tesh is here.

Taz (49:31)

Blah, blah, blah.

Guest or Producer (49:32)

It's like John, the host of Entertainment tonight in the 80s is headlining everybody's. He's the only one I'm hearing about. Who's the halftime show? There is no halftime show, because. Okay, so. So he's the headliner. He's the guy.

Jay Skeets (49:48)

He's introducing them. I'm sure he's gonna play stadium arena. Right.

Guest or Producer (49:54)

And all the kids. You think my kids are excited about that?

Jay Skeets (49:57)

You. Who?

Guest or Producer (49:58)

What song are you talking about? This is the problem. Like nostalgia. They're being smart about the celebrity game, which nobody watches because it's the celebrity Game, but it's. It's influences and they're trying to go young. Like, I watched a bit of that broadcast.

Taz (50:12)

I was like, who?

Guest or Producer (50:13)

Who are these people? And that's how it should be. I'm 55 years old. I should not be into this at all, Right? And this is the problem.

Taz (50:19)

Problem. This is the problem.

Guest or Producer (50:20)

It's cringe. It's cringe. You. Skeets, we're talking about. Talking about, you know, Snoop Dogg being the Olympics guy. I don't mind that because Snoop Dogg is perennially cool, right? Like, he's just a dude. Everybody loves him.

Jay Skeets (50:34)

Not cool, though.

Guest or Producer (50:36)

Incredibly cool. Exactly, exactly. That's my point. Yeah, bring him back. Next, he. Well, he'll be obviously part of LA Olympics, but, God, all the dads. All dads are super happy. Oh, look, Snoop Dogg.

Jay Skeets (50:51)

The dads are happy about snooping around during the Winter Olympics.

Guest or Producer (50:54)

They are very happy. The kids are like, I'm not even watching it because who cares, right? Like, kids. This is the problem.

Tasmolis (50:59)

The kids don't watch sports.

Taz (51:00)

Yeah, right.

Tasmolis (51:01)

But there are kids, so why would they chase young audiences? Well, that's the problem. If they're caught in. They're caught in between two paths, right? It's like, we want a younger audience, but guess what? They're not. No kid is tuning into All Star Saturday Night.

Guest or Producer (51:14)

I know. And all the kids who are playing in the All Star Game don't want to be there because it's cringe.

Jay Skeets (51:19)

They don't like it.

Guest or Producer (51:20)

And that's. That's the main problem. Right? So get artists that they listen to. And I'm not even. Like, I don't even know who they are. We don't know who they are.

Jay Skeets (51:29)

Okay. I think I want to say a K pop band performed during the either Celebrity Game or Rising Stars Game. Game, yeah.

Guest or Producer (51:37)

Okay.

Jay Skeets (51:38)

I want to call them Cordis.

Tasmolis (51:42)

But.

Jay Skeets (51:42)

I don't know if that's Right.

Taz (51:45)

There was a Soldier Boy in the Celebrity Game. Huh? Was there not?

Guest or Producer (51:49)

There was a what?

Tasmolis (51:50)

What?

Jay Skeets (51:50)

Who?

Taz (51:51)

A Korean pop band. Maybe there was Dylan Wang, and that's fine. Oh, yeah.

Jay Skeets (52:03)

That guy's a ball hog.

Taz (52:04)

You know him by name.

Jay Skeets (52:05)

That guy's a ball hog. I got thoughts on him.

Tasmolis (52:06)

I saw Keenan Allen block a shot.

Jay Skeets (52:08)

Yeah, that guy doesn't pass. If he's in a boy band, I'd be shocked because he's not sharing the mic.

Tasmolis (52:13)

Okay, so, J.D.

Jay Skeets (52:14)

You think if.

Tasmolis (52:15)

If you think Playboy Cardi. If he's the halftime act at the All Star Game, does that change anything if he. If it's Playboy Cardi instead of Ludicrous.

Guest or Producer (52:23)

If it's two minutes and you put it on Tik Tok, I guess.

Taz (52:25)

I don't know. Exactly right.

Guest or Producer (52:29)

Touche to you like that. That's. That's exactly right. And look, Ludacris is a big star. Like, he's in 10 or many fast. Many fast movies. And that's where kids know him from probably.

Jay Skeets (52:41)

Right, right. You know, also there. Yeah. I mean, they. They are selling these tickets to people, in theory, to show up to these events. And they do want to, like, give you a show. Like, you know, a three hour show. So we gotta have a bunch of filler.

Guest or Producer (52:55)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (52:55)

And while we're in commercial break here watching on tv, like, we've been at these things before. It's like, here's Christian and Scooby, or here's the dance pack, or here's the mascots doing something. Something silly. Or here's a video. How many video packages do they always show us?

Tasmolis (53:08)

Totally.

Jay Skeets (53:09)

Stuff like that many videos they're trying to give the crowd that are actually there something. But fair enough.

Tasmolis (53:13)

That is why, though. I agree, jd. Like, I think it was a good idea to do this 200 influencer thing because it's like if you're gonna reach a younger audience, it's going to be via social media and these people who are just there being at the events.

Jay Skeets (53:26)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tasmolis (53:28)

More so than who they're booking.

Jay Skeets (53:29)

Yeah. Like, we're gonna roll our eyes at it and like, who cares? But you're right. Like, that's the whole point of to get younger.

Taz (53:35)

Now we know who Dylan Wang is. Appare. He's a Chinese actor and singer. I thought he was a Korean K pop guy, but I just know he's good at basketball.

Jay Skeets (53:43)

Despite somehow three times in a row in the celebrity. This guy sucks.

Taz (53:48)

He's played three times.

Jay Skeets (53:50)

Yeah.

Taz (53:50)

Wow.

Jay Skeets (53:51)

How do I know this? Jesus Christ. All right. Wow. We got fired up over Ludicrous and Dylan Wang. And we'll even talk about that celebrity game. Let's take a quick break and when we come back, some Friday night reactions.

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Tasmolis (57:57)

JD.

Taz (57:57)

No JD. You don't want no.

Tasmolis (57:59)

JD's right about John Taps.

Taz (58:01)

Well, what if we had the SNL guys? What if we had SNL guys doing NBC basketball?

Jay Skeets (58:06)

Yeah.

Taz (58:07)

Oh, that would be awesome.

Tasmolis (58:08)

Yeah, that would be.

Jay Skeets (58:08)

That's the only reason we're getting John Tesh. It's like, oh my God, we're back on NBC. People love this song. He they've remixed it. Get him in here. Are you kidding me? We can get John Tesh? Yeah, we can. Like that's it. Don't worry, we're not getting John Tash next year.

Taz (58:24)

Can we get John Tash?

Guest or Producer (58:27)

I love it.

Jay Skeets (58:28)

And incredibly I was right. The the K pop band was called Cortis.

Tasmolis (58:32)

Cortis. I love Cortis.

Jay Skeets (58:35)

Can you name any member of Cortis in the five people in Cordis Peewee? No, but honestly there's two like super American names and then a bunch of Korean names. But Rick, Mark. No, there's Martin and James and then there's Korean names. Kim. We got a Kim and a Ken Ho. Okay, where were we? Oh, Friday night. Let's go to Friday night. I don't think this is going to take as long as Saturday night. But we did have 76ers VJ Edgecomb getting named MVP in the rising Stars, winning it all for team Vince and Vijay Edgecombe did take the game or a couple games that he played semi Seriously.

Taz (59:16)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (59:18)

Competition. And he was awesome. In the semi final game where he scored the final 10 points. I think it was to get the victory for team Vince and then he clinched the final with two big free throws after he attacked. Who was it? Donovan Clingan. I think he put the pressure on Clingan at the rim, got hacked on the arm. It was definite foul.

Tasmolis (59:35)

Big foul.

Jay Skeets (59:36)

And he hit two free throws to hit the target score. But anyway, any other takeaways from the Rising Stars game. Are you a fan of this?

Taz (59:42)

VJ Looks good. Vijay looked good. He gave it to Cam Spencer got lots of separation to score 10 straight. You called it, skates. You said VJKIN was gonna do it.

Jay Skeets (59:50)

I did. This is the one I got. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Taz (59:53)

And I. In general, they all did care, I thought.

Jay Skeets (59:57)

Yeah, yeah.

Taz (59:58)

About. About the. The shorter, you know, tournament style games. The shorter games. Maybe that helps. I think it does. In general. It kind of does. Instead of going four quarters on a Friday night and Rising Stars, it kind of lasts a long time.

Tasmolis (60:14)

You get enough moments if they're going to the target score and it's close, like they're going to try hard for those four possessions and that makes it exciting for at least five or six minutes there.

Taz (60:24)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (60:25)

And, you know, I think it's funny to see if you're a pickup basketball player, that even NBA guys where it's like, we don't have to get a three pointer here, but if we do, we win. They're going to take a three pointer every time. Just like when you're playing pickup and you're playing to nine and you have seven, nobody's taking a layup. You're only taking the two. And even NBA guys are like, I'm only shooting threes.

Guest or Producer (60:44)

Right.

Tasmolis (60:45)

Right now.

Taz (60:45)

Does that still happen? Everybody shoots a two when you need two.

Jay Skeets (60:49)

Generally in our runs.

Guest or Producer (60:50)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (60:50)

I mean, come on, walking off with a game winner is so much cooler when it's a jump shot.

Jay Skeets (60:54)

Nobody wants to continue to play defense, though, too. That's the main part. Like, oh, we scored. Oh, man, now we got to get another stop, too. Yeah.

Tasmolis (61:00)

The other thing I think, though is you said VJ won it by going to the free throw line. Can't win it at the free throw line.

Jay Skeets (61:07)

You know, target score being ended there.

Tasmolis (61:08)

Jamal Crawford said, you should have to win by two if it's at the free throw line. Fair enough. Or you should do it like pickup where you can just keep hacking the guy.

Taz (61:16)

Yeah.

Tasmolis (61:17)

Every time they try and score inside.

Taz (61:18)

I'm totally with what I would do. Yeah. Don't end it on a.

Tasmolis (61:21)

Don't end up anticlimactic.

Taz (61:24)

Yeah. So you get a foul, it's your ball. You get the ball back.

Tasmolis (61:27)

Yeah.

Taz (61:28)

You know. Yeah, I totally agree with that. Although, you know, VJ respects the game. I did like how he got to the arena with his Vince Carter throwback T shirt because Vince drafted him. And he said, when I was drafted by Vince, I remembered I had a shirt. So you know, paying some love to the og. So that was pretty cool.

Jay Skeets (61:49)

He also talked about getting a chance to talk to Kareem Abdul Jabbar a couple nights prior or something like that and how that meant a lot to him. I thought that was pretty cool. And they talked about, like, set the tone for the weekend, like, or at least for the All Star Game. Like, who knows if it actually translates?

Taz (62:03)

But come on, that's not translating.

Jay Skeets (62:05)

Probably not.

Guest or Producer (62:06)

Which is.

Jay Skeets (62:07)

But here's my thing. That's so funny. It's like, this is the game that I actually don't give a shit if anybody plays defense or tries. This is the one where they should just be going crazy and doing insane alley oops and insane dawn and doing olad. Like, this is the one. Like, I truly don't care at all. Like, they're just a bunch of kids put on a show. So it's funny. Like, the All Star Game is one. I'd like to see them, like, the best of the best compete for a little bit. I don't care about this one. But they did.

Tasmolis (62:33)

But they did.

Jay Skeets (62:34)

They did.

Tasmolis (62:34)

They did.

Taz (62:35)

So you don't want the kids to care?

Jay Skeets (62:37)

I mean, I just don't. This one, I've never really truly cared all that much about the Rising Star, especially, like, once it went into this tournament thing. I get the understanding behind it, but yeah, I think with this class we have coming in next year, maybe go back to a nice old rookie versus sophomores.

Taz (62:52)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (62:52)

I'm just saying.

Tasmolis (62:52)

Sure.

Jay Skeets (62:53)

We could have a good one.

Taz (62:53)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (62:54)

If they take it seriously and maybe it'll be a good game.

Taz (62:57)

But take into account the amount of talent coming into the league. Adam Silver knows there's tanking is hot right now in this particular season, and there's a reason for that. They're going to be really good going up against this current rookie class.

Jay Skeets (63:12)

Yeah. It be a game.

Taz (63:13)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (63:14)

Be a good game.

Tasmolis (63:14)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (63:15)

Any other thoughts on Rising Stars?

Taz (63:17)

I did see Dylan Harper hit a game winner over his bro in that.

Tasmolis (63:20)

That was cool.

Taz (63:21)

That's a moment.

Jay Skeets (63:22)

That was a moment. There wasn't a lot of like, like sick highlights though, from either of the games. No, there was that. That was a memorable moment. The jumper, Vijay, like little run where he hit a bunch of threes. Reed shepherd crossed somebody over and hit a three. That was pretty. Bouzilla's had a couple okay plays. Like maybe one nice dunk, but nothing like, crazy memorable, I don't think. But that's fine. I like the jerseys.

Tasmolis (63:44)

I thought the jerseys look they were okay looking.

Jay Skeets (63:45)

Yep. I like the colors. All right. Then we had the celebrity game. Rome Flynn earns his second straight mvp. Team Giannis wins the celebrity game and a lot of people upset online. How did Taco fall not win MVP? That guy had 20 points, 21 rebounds, 5 blocks robbed. Guy was shafted and Rome Flynn got it done. I think he had 17 points or something.

Tasmolis (64:09)

He looks like he could play.

Jay Skeets (64:10)

He was okay. Yeah, he's got moves.

Tasmolis (64:12)

He's got finishes.

Jay Skeets (64:13)

Yep. Sham's rough night. 0 for 5. I want to say from the field, I think all three point attempts. Fell in love with the three ball.

Tasmolis (64:21)

Just wanted to see one go down.

Jay Skeets (64:23)

Yeah, but take it to the rack, man. Just get an easy one.

Tasmolis (64:26)

That's right.

Jay Skeets (64:27)

See the ball go through the rim. Get off your phone, man. Also, the funniest clips from Seams in this game were like, anytime somebody else had the ball, Shams was doing the wacky waving, inflatable arm foiling tube, man. Like, I'm open, man, I'm open. There's so many clips. I'm like, I'm open. And people like, yeah, well, you just missed a three. I'm not going to pass it to you again. But yeah. Rough night. Rough night. Lots of shots of him on his phone. People were clowning him for that. I don't know why that's funny to me. He should have been playing with, doing bits.

Tasmolis (65:00)

Yeah, yeah. He should have gone Ben Simmons mode, had it in his pocket.

Jay Skeets (65:02)

Yeah, yeah.

Tasmolis (65:03)

Maybe he was going to like make a shot, get a tweet off or something like that.

Jay Skeets (65:08)

Maybe Giannis like really shattered his confidence though, talking a lot of about. He was to the point where it almost became like, is this a bit. Is this like, is he joking here or is like he legit upset with them for all the reporting?

Taz (65:22)

I like the pregame interview. Richard Jefferson said he's, hey, Janice, I saw the rosters. They're not fair. Basically saying, yes, you got a great roster. Yanis said, you know, it's not fair. Shams, he cannot hoop. Yeah. Then Mark Jones was also part of the interview. Mark Jones also said. We know that.

Jay Skeets (65:44)

Yeah, yeah.

Taz (65:45)

Did he mishear him?

Jay Skeets (65:47)

Did.

Taz (65:48)

Does he know.

Jay Skeets (65:49)

Was he complying that we know he sucks. He doesn't suck. But yeah, he couldn't.

Taz (65:55)

But they also, also production. They cut away from Giannis trash talking chomps. They cut away to show the. The little practice. What are you doing?

Jay Skeets (66:05)

Right?

Taz (66:06)

Show the. The former MVP calling somebody out on espn. That's good stuff. Don't get away from that. But yeah, yeah. He was also eating popcorn as he was saying that. It was kind of funny.

Tasmolis (66:16)

Had a box of popcorn with him.

Jay Skeets (66:18)

Any other memorable moments from the celebrity game?

Tasmolis (66:21)

Keenan Allen had a great game.

Jay Skeets (66:23)

Yeah, Yeah. I didn't know who he was, but he's a football player. Yeah, yeah.

Tasmolis (66:26)

Receiver. He played for the Bears.

Jay Skeets (66:27)

He looked like an athlete.

Tasmolis (66:28)

Yes.

Jay Skeets (66:28)

Like, yeah, his shots look decent.

Tasmolis (66:30)

I saw him swat Jenna Bandy on a jump shot.

Jay Skeets (66:32)

Come on. No. The best shot of the night in all honesty. Matt Ishbia.

Taz (66:38)

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Tasmolis (66:39)

Oh, yeah.

Jay Skeets (66:40)

Teardrop Insane. Yeah. Teardrop over Taco fall. Like he had to put it that high or it was getting rejected and it somehow dropped. That thing went so damn high.

Taz (66:49)

It was incredible.

Jay Skeets (66:50)

Yeah.

Taz (66:50)

There's several angles of the Matt Ishbus shot from the opposite end to see how high he had to put it over Taco fall. It was great. I didn't think I'd come into the celebrity game appreciating Matish basketball game, but. But he went and ripped a rebound from taco falls hands.

Jay Skeets (67:09)

He also picked up Sham's 94ft at one time. Bumped him out of bounds.

Tasmolis (67:14)

Yeah, I saw him throw behind the back pass. Wasn't converted. Missed layup by whoever his teammate was. But Matt Ishmael acquitted himself pretty well. I think he did.

Taz (67:22)

He did. We thought we'd. We'd see Shams hit some shots. That's what I thought.

Jay Skeets (67:26)

Yep. Oh, yeah. I mean, HBS stole the show.

Taz (67:29)

He did. HBS stole it.

Jay Skeets (67:30)

Jeremy Lin also hit an eight point shot in this game because they had this thing where you could like double points. I. I don't really still understand how it actually worked. But once it was activated, every shot for whatever particular player or team or something was doubled. And he hit a four point Ruffles shot. And that meant it was eight points. And that was basically the game I think that wrapped it up for.

Guest or Producer (67:52)

Yeah, it was a dice that they rolled. Seu.

Jay Skeets (67:54)

Oh, is that what it was?

Guest or Producer (67:55)

Yeah. Simuli and Glorilla each rolled a dice.

Jay Skeets (68:00)

Look at the old guy over here. Liking the kids game.

Guest or Producer (68:02)

That's right.

Jay Skeets (68:03)

Yeah.

Guest or Producer (68:03)

That's where I live. I live with the kids.

Jay Skeets (68:05)

They rolled it.

Tasmolis (68:11)

And it was double time for Jeremy Lynn to hit the four point ruffles shot.

Guest or Producer (68:17)

That's right.

Tasmolis (68:21)

Obviously.

Guest or Producer (68:22)

And they were inflatable. They were inflatable dice. So they were. They rolled for a very long time. Simu is like, okay, ladies first. To Glo says, no, you go first. He rolls the dice and then she kicks his dice. When it lands on eight, she kicks it, it rolls a little more and more and more and lands on eight again. So in your face, Glorilla.

Jay Skeets (68:41)

I guess she was having fun. I saw she bringing some energy to this. What a game. What a game.

Tasmolis (68:48)

Game.

Jay Skeets (68:49)

Celebrity game. That's all I got from the All Star Weekend festivities. We can pivot here to Chris Paul real quick if you want.

Taz (68:57)

Yeah, let's pivot.

Jay Skeets (68:58)

Finally, before we go, Chris Paul announced that he has officially retired. In a post on Instagram, Chris Paul wrote in part, this is it. After over 21 years, I'm stepping away from basketball. As I write this, it's hard to really know what to feel, but for once most people would be surprised I don't have the answer. Lol. But mostly I'm filled with so much joy and gratitude. While this chapter of being an NBA player is done, the game of basketball will forever be ingrained in the DNA of my life. And he went on to say a lot more, but that's the part we'll share with everybody here on the pod. Sort of weird. Chris Paul ends this way via an Instagram. Like this past summer he returns to la. He joins the organization. That's one day, I assume. Still going to retire his jersey number. I would hope so. And then he announced early in the season that this would be his last year. Okay, here we go, the swan song. And we don't really get a retirement tour. Instead he gets told to leave and go home and then gets traded and waived by the Raptors. So just sort of just an odd ending to Chris Paul's incredible NBA career.

Tasmolis (70:06)

Definitely the going out with the Clippers in your last season would have been perfect like if he would have stuck around the whole time. Obviously they had their friction and got sent home. So yeah, bummer end to the way things went. I do really like that he included LOL in his little post here. You can tell he's a millennial for that one. But yeah, I mean we were talking at trade deadline and even a little earlier, like would he ever get bought out? Would a team pick him up or anything like that and guess not. Yeah, a lot of what he talks about further on in this post is that he has been away from his family for basically six years after his first run with the Clippers ended. And that's why he was really going back was to be closer to them and spend more time with them. And apparently if he's not going to sign with the Lakers, there's no other teams in la, so. And time Was up. I guess so. Yeah. Just a weird ending to his career for sure.

Taz (70:57)

Very weird ending. Does it count for the Toronto Raptors to be his last basketball team? Will that ever be a trivia question?

Jay Skeets (71:06)

Maybe. Where was he traded to? Yeah, but not.

Taz (71:08)

Yeah, he never played for them. And I don't know if it was just because there wasn't a team in LA that signed him, because I feel like if there was a team that was on the cusp of winning a championship and Chris Paul could be on the floor to play for them, to have a role, he would have done it.

Jay Skeets (71:24)

He would have done it. But by all reports, no team was calling and asking.

Taz (71:27)

Oh, nobody did. Or else he would have done. I think, you know, in my eyes, there was a chance that Minnesota Timberwolves would have gone and got him if they didn't get IO to sumu. Maybe just to have somebody out there. But he also wanted to be playing. Chris Paul's not a guy to go sit on a bench or sit in a locker room to be a, you know, rah rah guy. So that's.

Jay Skeets (71:48)

That's a part of it. He was the opposite of a Raw.

Taz (71:51)

Raw. He needed to play.

Jay Skeets (71:51)

He was sitting on the bench for the Clippers.

Taz (71:53)

Yeah. And that was a problem. Yeah. Well, you know, in an ideal world, he was going to come off the bench for a team that was going for a championship.

Jay Skeets (72:01)

So I thought it didn't start 6 and 21.

Taz (72:03)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was not possible, I suppose, anywhere in the league. So it is odd just to see him go out like this right here, right now. But when we all look back, we'll say, wow, what a career. I can't believe he has 11 million followers on Instagram. Seeing that post, I had to double check for him. I wouldn't think he's an 11 million type of guy, but seems high.

Jay Skeets (72:26)

He thought high. Okay.

Taz (72:27)

I thought lower.

Jay Skeets (72:28)

Yeah. You thought he would have lower?

Taz (72:29)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, why? I mean, no real reason. I did. Just since we're on the Clippers. I did think this was of note from this weekend. Kawhi Leonard doing that interview with Chris Haynes. I'm not sure if you guys saw that, but he was asked, do you feel like you have enough time to get something together in the postseason? Is it too late in the season? Basically. And he said, you know, hopefully we do. Obviously, right now with the roster, we're not contenders just calling it out. We ain't gonna be good. Essentially, we got a lot of young guys that's learning we want Darius to be healthy for the second half. If he's there available for the second half, he is, but really need him to be ready to go next year. That's what this guy's thinking about. So that's my mindset. Then he talked about Benedict Matheran last two games. Okay, he kind of got it together. But looking for us to get a playoff berth and have some fun in the playoffs. He's got no aspiration, no real expectation for this team this season. That was Norwegian.

Jay Skeets (73:27)

Yeah, I know, but weird to hear somebody say usually, but one of the.

Taz (73:32)

Best players in the league last few months to say, okay, you, you traded Harden, you traded Zubots. We ain't gonna do it. But he's already looking forward to next year when he wants to be there, I suppose, you know, there was the talk about him leaving, possibly because they are not looking like they're going to be great, but maybe, maybe next season is totally different before the trade deadline. But either way, he's already looking forward to next year.

Jay Skeets (73:59)

Back to Chris Paul, I want to know where do you rank him as when it comes to the greatest point guards of all time? Is he top five, top three? Where do you have them?

Tasmolis (74:09)

Top five?

Jay Skeets (74:10)

Okay.

Tasmolis (74:11)

Three, four or five.

Jay Skeets (74:12)

Yeah, I think most people have them there.

Tasmolis (74:14)

No. Okay. I wouldn't have any higher than fourth.

Jay Skeets (74:16)

Well, do you consider Steph Curry a point guard first off? Okay, if you do, then obviously he is behind him.

Tasmolis (74:20)

So he's behind. He's behind Steph. Magic Johnson and Isaiah Thomas.

Jay Skeets (74:24)

Thomas guaranteed for me. And then Oscar Robertson. Right.

Tasmolis (74:27)

I just. Yeah, I don't really know how to judge Oscar Robertson.

Jay Skeets (74:30)

But you haven't probably had a John Stockton.

Tasmolis (74:32)

Yeah.

Jay Skeets (74:32)

Yep. Yeah, exactly.

Tasmolis (74:35)

Even with John Stockton, actually, he made.

Jay Skeets (74:39)

11 all NBA teams. Chris Paul did nine, all defensive teams, which is really pretty incredible when you remember the guy's six feet tall. Like if that led the league in assists five times, in steel six times. And he ranked second in NBA history in both of those categories. Race assists over 12,500 and steals over 2,700. In retrospect, Chris Paul's NBA career, I think can be summarized by like five moments or developments. I saw Sean Powell at NBA.com put together a great list. I included a different one here, though. The first one is just his rookie of the year win. Like, he comes into this league, he's the fourth pick overall, and he's basically asked to rescue a New Orleans franchise sort of right away because they were in a transition they had previously located from Charlotte. Then Hurricane Katrina hits and then they're suddenly playing games in like Oklahoma City and he's like seeing that franchise like through that pretty tumultuous time. And he was elite right away. Nearly a unanimous Rookie of the Year winner. Just awesome from the jump and helping them turn into a really good team too. That was the thing with Chris Paul. Everywhere he went, the team for the most part got really good. Like way better than they were before. The non trade to the Lakers in 2011. Yep, that's going to come up anytime we talk about Chris Paul. The league had temporary control of the Hornets. Then commissioner David Stern just shut down the proposed deal that would have shipped Chris Paul to LA to team up with Kobe. Crazy what if scenario.

Tasmolis (76:03)

Yep.

Jay Skeets (76:03)

For everyone involved, you know, how does that play out? Does he win there with Kobe? Obviously the trade after that ended up working great for the Lakers. Like it's like a crazy sliding door moment. If the league said, no, you can't do that trade. Lob City. Yeah, duh. He's going to have his jersey retired. He eventually got back to la. It was only the Clippers, not the Lakers. And he helped turn a laughingstock of a franchise into. Yeah, like, okay, were they a championship contender? They never made it there, but they were a good team that made some deep runs and they were the joke of all franchises forever. Until he sort of came with Blake and DeAndre. Untimely injuries would be fourth on this list. Two notable ones in the postseason. Hamstring injury benched him for two games in the second round against Houston in 2015. Clippers blew a 31 lead against against the Rockets, lost that series. And then the big one as a member of the Rockets, he pulled his hamstring again. Team was up 32 on the warriors in the 2018 conference finals. And a lot of people think the Rockets would have won the title. Maybe if Chris Paul's hamstring doesn't fail him there. And then the final One is the 2021 finals. Lost to the Bucks, where, you know, everything did seem to fall in place for Chris Paul and the Suns that year. They won 51 games in a 72 game shortened season. They beat the Lakers, they swept the Nuggets, then they beat the Clippers in the conference finals. And I think he had a monster, monster game to help advance to the finals. They're up 20 against Milwaukee. Okay, you lose game three, that happens, whatever. And then game four was the Chris Middleton versus Devin Booker sort of shootout. They both had great games. Chris Paul did not have a Good Game four from what I remember. And didn't have a great end of the series as the Bucs came back and snatched what maybe would have been Chris Paul's lone championship. And instead he's on the list with your Patrick Ewings, your Charles Barkley's, your John Stockton's, your Karl Malone's and Chris Paul, those are like maybe Reggie's in the mix too. But five or six guys that were elite guys that never won a championship.

Tasmolis (78:06)

Yep.

Taz (78:07)

Chris Paul, he's close. He's super close. That was his only finals. Yeah. And that's why, you know, I have him a little higher than John Stock. Like, there's many reasons. Whatever. We can, we can go through the whole list, but there's the Steve Nash comparison. You know, Chris Paul got to the final. Stevie didn't. Never did.

Jay Skeets (78:25)

Nope. All right, we'll call it there. That's your All Star Saturday night recap. Talked a little. Chris Paul. Talked a whole lot of Ludacris 2 Chris Bridges.

Tasmolis (78:37)

Chris Paul.

Jay Skeets (78:37)

That's right. That's right. Here's the fun thing. We're going to do this tomorrow night, the live stream again. And we're doing it for the All.

Tasmolis (78:44)

Star tournament and for the Tesh heads out there.

Jay Skeets (78:48)

Oh, yeah. Oh, God.

Tasmolis (78:50)

And Tesh head.

Jay Skeets (78:51)

Well, John Tesh has got to win over J.D. he's got to be like, the kids got to be watching this.

Tasmolis (78:57)

I heard he's playing Deep Cuts, only rock. I'm playing my other, my other hits that people love.

Jay Skeets (79:03)

That would be a swerve.

Tasmolis (79:05)

It was a little new because he get two songs.

Jay Skeets (79:08)

Yeah. Yeah. So we will go live at 5pm Eastern once again on YouTube for a live watch party. We had a lot of fun tonight, despite making maybe what you thought of All Star Saturday night. We had a blast. Eating pizza, drinking beer, sort of trying to hear Ludacris sing and watching the events. Let's hope tomorrow night is just as entertaining. So 5pm and then we'll do a podcast after recapping all the fun. Will the guys play hard? What are you doing? You're picking up your.

Taz (79:36)

Yeah, just looking at my. The non alcoholic beer that we had.

Jay Skeets (79:39)

Yeah.

Taz (79:40)

And I was just contemplating what my. My end of the show quote was going to be. So we'll just go there.

Jay Skeets (79:45)

Okay.

Taz (79:45)

Clipper Bros. Clipper Bros. You heard it here first.

Tasmolis (79:48)

Have a great time. Turn up.

Jay Skeets (79:49)

Love you guys.

Tasmolis (79:50)

Awesome.

Taz (79:51)

Thanks for joining us. And remember, tomorrow, more non alcoholic beer for us and less pizza, right?

Jay Skeets (79:58)

Yeah.

Taz (79:58)

Are we gonna do.

Jay Skeets (79:59)

We can't do back to back. Jack no, we gotta either do something else.

Tasmolis (80:02)

Salads delivering salad.

Jay Skeets (80:06)

Salads, salads and John 10 with no dunks tomorrow night. We'll see ya.

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