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JE Skeets
Good morning. Well then, welcome to the no Dunks podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Monday, January 19, 2026, Martin Luther King Jr. Day here in the U.S. nBA hoops taking center stage on a day dedicated to reflection, service and action. I'm JE Skeets, finally here in the classic factory. And alongside me it's my top shot, hot boy, Trey Kirby Ayo. Hey yo, over yonder, making the magic happen. Super producer jd Hello. There he is. Here we are. No task today. He was up in Canada, eh? Over the weekend. He'll return tomorrow, so don't you worry. Yesterday though, January 18 marked the official 20 year anniversary of this here podcast. And we shared a screen grab on socials of one of our first ever episodes. Our first episode, I should say, I guess one of our first websites. I just wanted to read a small part of Our inaugural episode, episode 001 of the Basketball Jones. In this week's inaugural show, Jay Skeets and Tas Melas discuss the Steve Francis suspension. Whether Shaq is helping or hurting the Miami Heat. The week that was for the Raptors, who should be this year's West All Star forwards. The wanker responsible for this, which is a hyperlink.
Trey Kirby
Do you know what it is that.
JE Skeets
Doesn'T go to anywhere? So I have no clue. TK and much, much, much more. And then I guess I say. Skeets struggles to pronounce Gasol.
Trey Kirby
How do you think you said it?
JE Skeets
I don't know.
Trey Kirby
Gasol.
JE Skeets
I don't know. Maybe that was the first ever episode which we unfortunately don't even have. Yeah, and we had like young Pep Dash Wooblio balls, Grandma Lana, like all the OG TBJ fans trying to find. Does anybody have this on an ipod somewhere?
Trey Kirby
Somebody's gotta have it.
JE Skeets
We couldn't locate it. The earliest episode we can find is 007 that we have. And we did of course release the pilot episode. We had that somehow last week.
Trey Kirby
But 007, yeah, it's gotta be out there somewhere. I would think an old drive, but finding drives having the proper connections to connect it to your computer these days, dongles have changed so much in the past 20 years.
JD (Super Producer)
I've got three in front of me that I digged out of storage. One of them I cannot fire up.
JE Skeets
Hard drives.
Trey Kirby
Hard drives.
JE Skeets
Oh, you can't even get it working.
JD (Super Producer)
Can't even get it working.
JE Skeets
Who knows what gold is on there?
JD (Super Producer)
I know. Well, that's where I Found. I found like a Bosch on this guy.
JE Skeets
Okay. Like a Bosch. We did post yesterday.
JD (Super Producer)
Found some LA All Star 2011. Was it 2012?
JE Skeets
Oh, wait, wait, wait. That means you have the infamous Tas Melis super hungover.
JD (Super Producer)
I don't have that.
JE Skeets
Interview with. Was it DeMarta Rosen?
JD (Super Producer)
Yeah. Oh, that's.
JE Skeets
That's.
JD (Super Producer)
No season required.
Trey Kirby
Oh, phone. Oh, that's back then.
JD (Super Producer)
That's back. That's. That's 2011, I guess. Yeah, I'll have a look. But anyway.
JE Skeets
Okay, well, great work. We did get Like a Bosch posted yesterday. We have, I believe we have the Andrea Barnyani All Star campaign from way back in the day that's gonna be posted this week. Because we located that. I saw some people asking. Oh, let's get that up. Well, we found that one.
Trey Kirby
You'll see it. You'll see it soon.
JE Skeets
Anyway, to celebrate 20 years of this show. 20 years, guys. Oh, my God.
Trey Kirby
I know. When the three of us started the show 20 years ago, I was just so great to relive.
JE Skeets
It's amazing. Like, when did you even start listening to the show?
Trey Kirby
Definitely during this website era. I remember this website for sure. I don't know what this was launched on, but it's got the gray comment section. I was definitely in the gray comment section way back when. That wasn't me. No beef for Benjamin. That wasn't me.
JE Skeets
Okay, good. Yeah, there's somebody. Somebody noted Yesterday there's only 2 comments on the first ever show.
Trey Kirby
I do like this though. I want to know, will Pat Riley ever change his hairstyle? The answer is still no.
JE Skeets
No.
Trey Kirby
20 years later, still no.
JE Skeets
Yeah, I hope we answered that episode two or three. To help celebrate though, 20 of no Dunks, we've teamed up with our good friends at Breaking Tea to release this limited edition 20th anniversary design. I really like that 20 years sort of no Dunks logo. Got a fun back to this one with the no Dunks classics in Atlanta, Georgia, and then an address which is our actual mailing address. Our PO Box is, believe it or not, Spalding Drive. So go grab this tee. This is a limited edition T shirt. It's gonna be available for sale till the end of the month. So you got, you know, 20. So no. Excuse me. You got like 10 or 11 days here. So it's a pre sale item again running through the end of January, and it will print and ship after that date, January 31st at the end of the month. So good stuff. Go to no dunks.com and if you want to grab a 20 year anniversary shirt which will only be available for, you know, a week and a half or so.
Trey Kirby
Cool.
JE Skeets
Yeah, you had a. You played a big part in designing.
Trey Kirby
That one, TK Yeah, sometimes it's nice to just throw some search terms into Google and see what comes up. 20th anniversary shirts found a random pizza shop that had been open for 20 years and it looked awesome. Let's try this with a basketball instead of a pizza. And guess what? It still looked awesome.
JE Skeets
It looks good. So again, no dunks.com for that. All right. We did have a wedgie on Friday night, and it once again involved Trey Kirby, Chicago Bulls. But Danny Wolfe, hungry like a wolf. Hungry like a wedgie. Sticks it with the little help defense there on IO. And that is wedgie 36, pace remains high and good stuff. Also, Noah Eagle on the call on the yes network, he went nuts on that one because he was like, it's a block wedgie. It's a bledgie. So.
Trey Kirby
Said he'd never seen it before. I know it is pretty rare. I mean, it happens, but, you know, these people aren't in the wedgie weeds quite as much as we are, but exciting. The Bulls have now tied the Kings for most wedgies this season. They both have six a piece.
JE Skeets
Yes, yes, yes. But the Bulls have been involved in games, many with six. With six wedges. The Kings actually, I think have stuck six wedgies. So it is a little different.
Trey Kirby
Okay, it's a little different. Step it up then.
JE Skeets
Yeah. Yeah. That was our sixth block wedgie of the season. Just so Noah Eagle knows. But yeah, I love the energy he brought to the wedgie. On the call. All right, It's Monday here, so we do NBA weekend winners and losers. There's only two of us, so we can do a couple rounds of winners. You get us started. The table is yours.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, there's just two of us here at a table. It feels like an epic duel between me and you. Take for take. And there's nothing I love more than an epic duel. We got one on Saturday in San Antonio. Anthony Edwards vs. Victor Wembanyama, 55 points for Ant. He scored 26 in the fourth quarter, hit five threes in the fourth. Wemby went for 39 of his own points. He had 12 points in the fourth quarter, hit a bunch of clutch shots, had a couple of blocks in the fourth, including one with 13 seconds left on Joan Baringer. And then a game clinching offensive rebound for Victor as well in that fourth quarter. Just super fun to watch these two guys going shot for shot with each other. They've played a couple of really exciting games. My three main takeaways from this, other than like, these guys are awesome, is that Minnesota has to be in the mix as another potential spurs rival. We look ahead to Oklahoma City versus San Antonio is the rivalry that's going to be defining the NBA for the next five years. And it's because the spurs are on the come up. The Thunder are in their primes, but on the young end of that, it just feels like they're going to be lining up against each other. But it's not totally. It's not that far off from Minnesota to kind of get in the mix as well. I think Ant is just another different style of foil for Wemby. The relationship between him and Wemby feels very different between the relationship between him and Chet. You know, Wemby and Chet don't want to talk about each other at all. And you can tell they don't like each other. It feels like Ant and Wemby don't do like each other. They have a lot of respect for each other and they love bringing the best out of each other. I think you also throw in the Rudy Gobert, Baron J connection between all the French big guys. There's something there going forward. It'll just be on kind of Baron J to like be good, you know, whenever Gobert finally starts to fall off. But I thought that was cool to see the other couple of takeaways. Number two, Kelton Johnson is a key piece of for this spurs team. He shaved his head with Victor Wembanyama. I do like that he has kind of attached himself to Victor. Smart thinking for the future. But 20 points off the bench for Kelton Johnson. Drew some free throws, went 1 of 2 of the line late in this one. Hit a clutch 3 with 17 seconds left to help the spurs get over the edge. And then finally, Wemby did a step through. And this one he had it on yon Baron J Pump faked him at the free throw line. Finger roll at the rim. He does the step through a lot. And it needs a nickname. I think it should be called the spacewalk. Ooh. Because he covers a lot of space. The man is an alien. And it just feels special to me in the same way that the Hakeema lies one dream shake got a name. You know that there are other guys who could do a fake and then spin back for a hook shot. But he came, made it look cool, made it look smooth. Wemby is doing the same with the Step through fun to watch these two going back and forth against each other. You love to see young stars like seeing the moment and rising to meet it.
JE Skeets
Yeah, absolutely. This was an obvious winner of the weekend, this game, this battle between these two guys. 55 for Ant, unfortunately in the loss. But Wemby coming through. I'm glad you brought up Keldon Johnson because I had seen some buzz over the last week or so of like, hey, where's Kelvin Johnson? In the race for six man of the year? He has skyrocketed, I believe up the odds. According to Fanduel, he's one of the favorites now with Nas reed, he's tied plus 300. With Nas Keldin Johnson is. Then it's Jaime Hawkez Jr. At plus 750. You got Reed Shepherd, Anthony Simons with the Celtics, Anthony Black as the odds I guess go up for those guys. But yeah, Kelton Johnson, man, going bald, looking cool. I think he looks pretty good bald.
Trey Kirby
I can't believe it. Him like Victor looks cool. Like, I feel like he can just pull off different looks here. But to see another guy, Kelvin Johnson, he was like, I was looking for a reason to shave my head. The 90s are fully back. If guys with full heads of hair are choosing to shave their hair off, that was a 90s move. Nobody else would do it. Like what, you're going bald when you have hair? It doesn't make sense. Yeah, but now these young guys are doing it.
JE Skeets
I did it in the 90s. Never again will I shave my head.
Trey Kirby
What about a pick and payoff?
JE Skeets
Oh, no, no.
Trey Kirby
I never was saying, that's two more too much.
JE Skeets
I'm on record like 10 times on this show saying, I'll never do that. I'll do a lot of crazy shit on this show. I never again shaving my hair.
Trey Kirby
They look cool though. Vic and Kelden look pretty sweet, I do believe. But yeah, he. I hadn't really considered him for six man, but it makes sense. He's almost at 14 a game. He's knocking down threes and he's decided if I'm not going to be the go to scorer for this team, I'll do what I can off the bench and I'll hit the glass and be like the emotional leader as well. I haven't heard any reports on his llamas since the NBA cup, but I hope he's still went in on those as well.
JE Skeets
Yeah. But we've now gotten three actual stories from Keldon Johnson this year. The Llamas with the NBA cup, the Playing. Who was the song again that he played?
Trey Kirby
Vanessa Carlton.
JE Skeets
Vanessa Carlton. Sort of to get the team hyped up and then now going bald here with Wemby.
Trey Kirby
Good character.
JE Skeets
Exactly. We need characters. Yeah.
Trey Kirby
That's good.
JE Skeets
So good stuff. Awesome game. At least the highlights, if you missed that one. There was a lot of football being played this weekend. Sorry about your Bears, by the way.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, you know, tragic ending, but exciting season. And I. I hate feeling optimistic about the Bears, but I do today.
JE Skeets
Okay. Wow. I mean, what a credible throw. Caleb Williams to get them into overtime. Fortunately, the pick in overtime is great, but wow.
JD (Super Producer)
Yeah.
Trey Kirby
I mean, it makes the highlight plays look easy. The easy plays are the ones that seem to be more adventure for Caleb Williams, but it's cool. The Bears have the new Aaron Rodgers. I can't be sad.
JE Skeets
Okay, so let's go to my first winner of the weekend, and I'm going to give it to John Morant, the Memphis Grizzlies and London, London, City of London. So John Moran had 24 points, 13 assists in his return to the lineup to lead the grizzlies to the 126, 109 victory over the Magic on Sunday in foggy London town. And this was, in all honesty, a win for everyone. Jaw, the Grizz, and of course the NBA fans in England because the poor people in Berlin didn't get Ja Morant. He did not return to that game and didn't play in that one. He had missed six games because of this right calf injury, but he provided an immediate spark for the Grizzlies, who had been quite bad recently. They had lost seven of nine. This team was spinning its wheels. There was obviously a lot of buzz and continues to be a lot of buzz about potentially trading John Moran. And we had that clip from Germany where he's getting into it with Vince Williams Jr. And whatever they were arguing about, obviously that went viral. But look, he comes back here on Sunday. Jaw had a 20 and 10 first half and the playmaking in particular was impressive and jumped off the screen. To me, he was slinging darts cross court. He was feeding Jock Landell inside. He had a gorgeous behind the back pass to, I guess it was Gigi Jackson. And I think he just like he needed this game and maybe it was helped by the fact it was in London in front of an international crowd who was really behind him. And it was good. Obviously he looked great, he played well. They got a win. But I think him playing in London with that, I think this had an impact a little bit like him being sort of like cheered on by that crowd. So that was good. And look for the Grizzlies, whether they trade him or not, this is good. Like, yes, you want him playing at this level because it's only going to increase a potential trade package coming back. Like you get to say to a team like Miami or another team, like.
Trey Kirby
Come on, man, look, he can still play.
JE Skeets
This guy can still play and have an impact on positive basketball and winning basketball. So that's good. And then finally, yeah, I mean, London just got to see him. So good for them.
Trey Kirby
Hey, don't feel so bad for Berlin, man. They got the Wagner hooping in Berlin and they showed father Wagner quite a few times on the broadcast. He's got a cool look as well.
JE Skeets
And Berlin got arguably the dunk of the year.
Trey Kirby
Exactly.
JE Skeets
Black dunking on four guys. But London, the O2 arena here gets. Gets John Moran.
Trey Kirby
At least Berlin can stick Magic fans. And maybe London will turn tilt towards the Grizzlies. Cuz John was hooping and it was like a highlight festival the entire time. Like you're saying he got into a flow with things and it felt like he was going out there to intentionally put on a show to go five of eight on jumpers, which I think is part of the reason he played so well. Went 3 of 4 from the 3 point line and busted out a new celebration. A bazooka. Come on, man.
JE Skeets
Yeah.
Trey Kirby
Come up with a celebration. That's not a weapon.
JE Skeets
Well, he did. He did do one. That wasn't a weapon. He did a little.
Trey Kirby
Okay. I don't know.
JE Skeets
Okay. Or something. As he danced back. Not a weapon in sight. Unless he had some knives behind him or something. I don't know.
Trey Kirby
But salsa. But you're right, he did the bazooka break dance. Fighting for that one. But it's like finger gun, $75,000 fine. Then he came up with a grenade. Now it's a bazooka.
JE Skeets
Yeah.
Trey Kirby
What's next? The tank you're gonna be driving a tank? Papa's head is this guy.
JE Skeets
I mean, he should just get. Is. He should be like a playable character in like Call of Duty. Maybe he is. I mean, he really should. He's into this. But at least besides that part where maybe. I don't know if the league comes down on him, I feel like they won't. But he was playing with some joy at the very.
Trey Kirby
He was playing with joy for sure.
JE Skeets
Right from the jump. And he started this game too. He was on a minute's restriction, but got up to around the 30 minute mark. And obviously played a part in them winning.
Trey Kirby
Yeah. And they needed a win because I think they had just dropped out of 10th in the play in because the Clippers have been playing really well. They got a win on Friday. So LA had passed Memphis as of Saturday. Got the win during the day and you know they're back in the plan. And like you're saying maybe this means Job was talking post game. He's like, yeah, look at the tattoos on my back. I got a Memphis Grizzly Grizzlies logo. I don't want to have to cover that up. I want to be here. I don't know if that's true. This could also just be a showcase like you're saying. Either way, good news for the Grizzlies. The win puts them back in the postseason mix. This either helps Jaws trade value or it helps the chemistry with the team.
JE Skeets
Right. That's a win, win, win. Yeah. For everyone here.
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That is serious.
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Trey Kirby
You know what I do when I get my street burrito? I get the squirt Daisy.
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I know you.
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I'm a huge sour cream guy. I love sour cream top. So I think burritos can't live without sour cream.
Trey Kirby
I completely agree with that.
Julian Edelman
They also have Daisy ranch dip. I love ranch dip. I love it with crackers, wings, plain potato chip, the ones with the little crinkles, maybe some bell peppers. So get out there and give Daisy French onion dip a try. You will not regret it.
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JE Skeets
So okay, that's my pick. Let's do another round. Where are you going?
Trey Kirby
Houston Rockets get a winner of the weekend Couple of nice wins. On Friday they beat the Timberwolves, A season high 39 points for Kevin Durant, who had a really good weekend. On Sunday, Rockets beat the pelicans. Season high 32 points for Jabari Smith Jr. But Kevin Durant had 18 past Dirk. Nowitzki for sixth on the NBA's all time leading scorer list. And the way he did it was basically with a Dirk Nowitzki fall away. Poetic.
JE Skeets
It really was. It was very, very Dirk, like very, very similar. Kevin Durant hit that shot too. The guy's made a million buckets in his career. But where it was on the floor and how he got to it.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, definitely.
JE Skeets
Yeah.
Trey Kirby
I don't think he did it intentionally as a tribute, but look, when LeBron was getting ready to pass Kareem, I thought he was going to do it with the hook shot. So I wouldn't put it past any of these guys to have a plan and actually be able to execute it. But I thought these were two good wins for the Rockets. They were coming off five losses in their previous seven games and both of these were pretty strong offensive performances. I think for Houston coming in to Friday, they were 25th in offensive rating. During January, they've been turning the ball over a ton. The shooting percentages have been really low. The assists have been really low. They were still low against Minnesota, but pretty good against New Orleans. In 10 games in 2026, the Rockets have scored 105 or fewer six times. That only happened once for them in 30 games during 2025. I think the offense has looked pretty clunky as of late, but it looked good in both of these wins over the weekend. I think they still are a team that's gonna need to make a trade for somebody a little bit more reliable on the perimeter. Reed shepherd had a couple of nice games in these two, but ime, I don't think totally trusts him and it feels like a really big risk to go into the playoffs if he's your number one perimeter guy. So I think they should be looking at a trade. I guess the only bad part for the Rockets is Stephen Adams went down with what looked like a. Could be a serious knee injury. A weird landing. He's obviously a huge dude. Looked like he was in quite a bit of pain when he landed.
JE Skeets
Yeah, that put a bit of a damper on an otherwise great weekend and I, I was feeling good that the Rockets, like you said, had lost a bunch of games after I picked them, make the finals and represent the Western Conference. When we were doing our Bold Predictions podcast soon after we turned into 2026. But I like these quality wins. And man, Durant like, holy shit, man, this guy, he's still unstoppable at times. Four, still unstoppable. So, okay, you thought, you know, maybe, maybe not. That was an Homage to Dirk passing him. He has Jordan up next. What would you do if you were paying tribute to Michael Jordan to score? Like, would it just be a turnaround fade away jumper on the basis you hit a three and shrug? Like, do you try and dunk on somebody like young Jordan?
Trey Kirby
I don't know, Katie. Maybe hit a rockets high in three pointers in his 39 point game.
JE Skeets
Right.
Trey Kirby
I think he hit six threes maybe. As most of the season so far, him shrugging doesn't seem to make sense to me. Baseline fade away is the way to do it. Unless he can pull off a spectacular move and go for a switch hands layup inside. But he's what, like, he's like 700 points from Jordan. So I think that'll be towards the end of the season. He's at like 900 through 38 games. So, you know, if he stays healthy this year, MJ definitely in his sights.
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JE Skeets
Yeah. And like there's been no talk at all about this being Kevin Durant's last year?
Trey Kirby
Oh, no way.
JE Skeets
Like not even like a whisper about it?
Trey Kirby
No.
JE Skeets
Obviously you were like, oh, what's LeBron doing? Is this it? 23? Will he hang it up? Like maybe, maybe not. But like we don't even talk about that with Katie. I know he's younger. I know in theory has more years and he did miss years with injury too. But yeah, just a matter of time before he passes mj. Let's hear how he does it. What do you guys think? I like that. I think it'll be a turnaround fade away. Like older M. Right, Right.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, late era mj. But I like what Ziggy said. He's got to put his tongue out. Let's just see that tongue.
JE Skeets
Okay, yeah, that's a good call.
Trey Kirby
I want to see your tongue.
JE Skeets
All right, back to me here for another winner of the weekend. I'm going to lump together a couple teams because I'm going to give a winner of the weekend to the Western Conference play in teams specifically 7, 8 and 9. That's Phoenix. The warriors and the Blazers start with Phoenix and I'll move with some pace here. But the Suns picked up, I thought, a really scrappy ass winner against the Knicks on Saturday. They had lost a couple games in a row. You know, they're on a bit of a road trip here. Devin Booker returned though. He was Great. He had 27 points. He had come back from a sprained left ankle and they just like, they just like fought this one out. Like it was one of These ones like, they almost like you wouldn't even been upset if they had dropped it, but they didn't. And that just like shows you what type of quality team this is this year and how hard they play. And this is on a night where the Knicks are like, welcoming back all of these, like, numerous legends. Like, it was a homecoming game for the Knicks. So many famous Knicks players are there. But the Suns played spoiler, so I was just impressed with that. I don't know if you have any quick notes before I move on, only.
Trey Kirby
That the Knicks, I think, you know, they could have been a loser. They were really scraping the barrel. Like you're saying they brought back all those legends only to lose their third straight game. They're struggling right now, having lost eight to 10, and you know, their players are getting booed. Karl Anthony Town shot an airball and they, Knicks fans, didn't like that one. This was an ugly loss, I thought for the Knicks, but a scrappy win for Phoenix, right?
JE Skeets
And they had just lost to Miami, they had just lost to Detroit. And like, these were fairly close games. And then they pulled this one out. That was an impressive win to me. The warriors won their only game this weekend. They defeated the Hornets by 20 points. Because Tas is not here, I am contractually obligated to inform you that DE Anthony Melton had a great game. He had 24 points. But the warriors as a team in this one, they hit 23 of 52 from deep. Ten Golden State warriors players made at least one three. If that stat sounds familiar to you, it is because Golden State now has had at least 10 players make at least one three pointer in three straight games. You brought this up last week. This is the longest streak, I guess, in NBA history since they, you know, created the three point line in 79, 80, whatever it was. But that's wild. 10 guys, three straight games. At least. Any one three pointer. So warriors win.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, I mean, this to me feels like a record. This could stand for a long time. 10 guys hitting a 3 is pretty special. But I think it's good for the warriors to get any kind of a win when Steph Curry doesn't lead the team in scoring only 14 points in this one. But they didn't need a huge game from him because Melton was hitting. Draymond had a good offensive game as well. And sometimes shooting is just contagious. You knock a few down, your teammates get inspired as well. So a good win for the Warriors.
JE Skeets
And then finally in the ninth spot in the play, in race Right now. The Blazers won back to back games this weekend. They beat the Lakers, they beat the Kings last night. Denny Avdia returned for that second game. He had 26 points, eight assists, eight boards. Coming back from a back injury, had missed a couple games. But the Blazers, man, they've won 12 of 15 games. Now they're back to 500. So they're 22 and 22 for the first time since basically early November early in the season when they were six and six. And you know, Avia, great. Shaden Sharpe, really good. Two consecutive games here, scoring the ball at least. And Donovan Klingon. And I know UTK love Clingan too.
Trey Kirby
I love that.
JE Skeets
I feel like this becoming like a very positive Clingan podcast with you and me. I love this guy too. 21.17 boards versus Sacramento. He had a massive fourth quarter as they sort of like let the Kings back into it and it got a little too close for comfort. But he was great. And his guy, he is like a new level of sort of toughness, I think when it comes to rebounding and fighting for positioning. And I think his stamina has gotten better here in year two. Like he plays a lot of minutes now and this was a guy as a rookie. He like in a five minute stink stint would look gassed. Maybe I said stink because you farted before we went live on the show.
Trey Kirby
It's still lingering.
JE Skeets
That's why all our audio equipment was all out of whack to start anyway. Clinging Cling Kong. Man, this guy's good.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, he's really good. He is a defensive deterrent inside. We know that's going to be the case with his size and stuff, but I'm really impressed with the way he passes the ball. Three assists against the Kings, four against the Lakers. He's pretty solid in the short roll. He had a really good role game against the Kings. He took seven threes against the Lakers. Like he's definitely trying to expand his range. He's shooting it better. Seven is too many for this guy, but there's some sort of balance in there. You like to see him take it and you like to see him be able to do other things besides just be a role guy because it just gives them a little bit more flexibility, a little bit more versatility. He's had a really, really solid season and it's great to see the Trailblazers stacking these wins up because they've been good on the defensive end like they've been in their past 10 games. They're a top 10 defense, but it's not like they're one or two, you know, just winning games on the defensive end. They've gotten Abdia back from injury. Drew is playing more often. They just have a little bit more talent out there. Tamani Kamara had a perfect game over the weekend. Sharp is knocking down three pointers. If they can get a decent offensive performance, they can win in the Western Conference. I don't know how high they're going to rise in the rankings and the standings, but this is a team that at least wants to have positive momentum, do play some sort of meaningful games.
JE Skeets
That's it.
Trey Kirby
A little bit later this season.
JE Skeets
Their goal, I would believe is to make the play in.
Trey Kirby
Yes.
JE Skeets
And like obviously get some reps here for some of these young guys because I think they like, they get overlooked when we talk about sort of sneaky, talented young rosters like Cores, I should say, because you have Denny Abdia, you have Kamara, you have Sharpe and you have Clingan. Those guys are all 25 years or younger. You know, Abdi and Kamara, I guess are 25. And then Sharp is like 22 and Clingan's even younger in the second year. That's a. I like that. Four moving forward here. And then they do have still these vets that are in and out of the lineup because of injuries, be it Drew Holiday and Jeremy Grant. Time Lord plays, you know, spot, spot minutes here and there when he's healthy. But I like that young core. And you're right, just get into the play in, get some meaningful games, you know, maybe win one of them, maybe even get into the actual playoff. Who knows? Those are tough teams that I said. Even though they're battling 7, 8, 9, even 10 if the Clippers are coming or the Grizzlies turn it around. So anyway, great weekend for them and nice to see them back to.500. Final round of winners. Who you got?
Trey Kirby
Jay Huff. Yeah, Is my winner of the weekend. Final one career high 29 points on Friday against the Pelicans. Went 13 of 17 from the field, 3 of 6 from the 3 point line. Added 9 rebounds and assists, a couple of steals and a couple of blocks. The Pelicans did get Destroyed in their second or the Pacers did get destroyed in their second game this weekend. Lost by 50. But I don't care because on Friday J. Huff was ball and he had three dunks in this game against the Pelicans. He was part of a hilarious moment with Derrick Queen doing jump balls. Oh, Derrick Queen. Just, just jumping. Just Jumping four false starts and then didn't jump on the last one. Cool. But yeah, three dunks for J. Huff, all forward facing and kind of soft. Launched a dunk contest campaign. The Pacers post game broadcast was like, if they asked you to be in the dunk contest, would you do it? He's like, yeah, I know everybody thinks I only dunk backwards, but I can come up with some more stuff. Would you have any interest in seeing Jay Huff in a dunk contest?
JE Skeets
Look, if a lot of guys turn it down and we get to the level of J. Huff, sure. Like, I respect him for saying he would do it. Yeah. If asked. No, I don't think he's going to win a dunk contest if there's like any real competition. But intriguing enough, I guess, as like the fourth guy to dunk. Yeah. Yes. That was a long winded way to get to. Look, look, look. Here's who he reminds me of sort of as a dunker a little bit. He's got some, like, Larry Nance to him, like how he. How he, like really extends his arm and, like palms. Yeah. And Larry Nance Jr. Went in it. I mean, obviously his dad was a dunker back in the day too. And I, you know, I don't remember really what he did. I don't think he embarrassed himself for a dunk on this. Be good. We need two elite dunkers. But I'm okay, obviously, with some, like, wild cards in the three and four spots.
Trey Kirby
So you're saying he wouldn't be one of them? No, no, I don't want to see this guy in a dunk contest. Come on. Well, it's fun to watch him do reverse dunks in a game.
JE Skeets
Well, do you want to see Mac McClung for the 10,000th time?
Trey Kirby
No.
JE Skeets
Okay.
Trey Kirby
Well, also, no, but you're gonna.
JE Skeets
I know you're getting.
Trey Kirby
You're getting Mac no matter what you want, but yeah, he does Dugs. And look, it was. It was cool. He was. He played incredibly well against the Pelicans, and he kind of makes me feel good about one of my pet theories, which is that if there were an NBA player to come into the NBA who modeled their game on Bob Koozie and doing, like 1950s and 60s style highlights where, like, you're spinning your hand around the ball before a pass, I think that player would become an instant fan favorite because that, to me, is sort of what J. Huff is doing. He's doing like weird highlights. Like, just like, yeah, let's throw it in a reverse here for no reason.
JE Skeets
Yeah.
Trey Kirby
And that to me kind of feels like a Bob Koozie era. Like this was like the first cool dunks that were invented where you turn half the way.
JE Skeets
Oh, yeah.
Trey Kirby
And it's worked like he's become an Internet meme for the way he's played so far this season. So this is the Koozie corollary where if you could throw back to 70 year old style highlights, it would look cool in today's day and age.
JE Skeets
But you don't want Jayhoff. No contest.
Trey Kirby
No, I mean, blessings on him. If he gets it, it'll be very cool story for him to get in. But I don't want a seven foot one guy in the dunk.
JE Skeets
Yeah, yeah, I get you. I get you. Like, at least he wouldn't be dunking over anyone, I wouldn't think. You know, we get some variety with our dunk. I guess a lot of like, it'd be pretty funny. He would have to do a reverse dunk. He would have to, like, he'd be demanding of it.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, but I mean, like Mason Plumlee was in a dunk contest.
JE Skeets
No, I know, I know, dude.
Trey Kirby
It was just, you know, like this.
JE Skeets
You know, you're talking to a dunk fan here. A dunk contest fan. But look, if it comes down to it is my point. Sure. If it comes down, it's okay having like he's almost like a comedy bit. A little bit.
Trey Kirby
A little, yeah.
JE Skeets
Then maybe can be like, whoa, maybe he puts down one.
Trey Kirby
We're like no expectations.
JE Skeets
Okay. Yeah. Very low expectations. Final winner of the weekend for me. I'm just going to show some love to Jalen Tyson, who had a career high 39 points. You got to go way back to Friday night for this one. But career high 39 for Cav shooting guard Jalen Tyson, a name that I say every time. And when I do, I'm convinced I'm saying it wrong. It just sounds wrong.
Trey Kirby
Jalen Tyson.
JE Skeets
He just looks more like a Tyson to me.
Trey Kirby
Tyson.
JE Skeets
Jalen seems to fit him more than Jalen Tyson. That's just me maybe, I don't know. But anyway, he was lights out. 13 of 17 from the floor on Friday. 6 of 6 at the line. Cleveland was without Darius Garland. He's got a grade one sprain of his right big toe. Man, this guy. And this toe is never going to go away. He's going to be reevaluated in seven to 10 days. So we're going to miss him for a couple of weeks. Sam Merrill was also out With a right hand sprain. So Jalen Tyson. Don't call me Tyson. Jalen was pretty special in this game on Friday night and he had the game winning, I guess assist to Evan Mobley underneath the attack baseline. Little dump off to Mobley and had the easy dunk and then maxi missed at the end there. But yeah, Jaylon Tyson coming on here. He's actually having a really good season.
Trey Kirby
He's having a great season. 52% from the field, 48% from three. The three point shooting in this one was the big story for sure for Jaylen Tyson hitting 7 of 9. But I do love the four assists including the one that was the game winner on the dish there to Mobley. It just shows you the level of feel that Jaylen Tyson has. He can dribble, pass and shoot. Like I don't know what he's going to become as a player. This is his second year. Yeah, he's got really thick legs like he, he's got, he's got a build similar like Tyson. Mike Tyson himself. Very, very similar to Mike Tyson. But I was going to say a little Jalen Suggs ish the way like the way he plays, you know, different being a wing versus a point guard. But he can dribble, pass and shoot. He makes the right decisions a lot of the time and he makes quick decisions. And I think it all kind of culminated on that last play where it was a bit of a scramble. He got the ball in the corner, was able to get to the baseline and make the nice drop off right there to. To Mobley for the dunk. So he's been a real bright spot for the Cavs this year to the point where I'm like he's been in and out of the starting lineup. I don't think he really moved into the starting lineup again here until Garland went down with injury. But he's physical as a defender. I mean he's not very tall, you know, I think he's only about 6 foot 5. So there are some bigger wings. I think that'll give him problems. But maybe he's the fifth starter for this team. It feels like they're always kind of looking for who's going to be the fifth starter. Streuss we know, hasn't been able to play yet this season. They've tried DeAndre Hunter, they've had Dean Wade be the guy. He's gotten banged up as well. But maybe even if it would make them a little bit small, maybe they can withstand that playing two seven footers. So Often I do like what Tyson's given them and he definitely helped save their skin against the Sixers.
JE Skeets
Yeah. And I, I mean I, this is a guy I knew nothing about in college because he was like one of these guys that bounced around. Right. I think he was like. Yeah, I think he was like at Texas and then maybe even Texas Tech and then made his way to California and then he was like a first round pick. Like he went 20th overall to the Cavs here and he scored a lot in California. That's the only thing I remember. But otherwise didn't know a lot about him. But getting an opportunity here and looked awesome in that game. And that was another victory there against the Sixers in a game on Friday night. So Jalen. Tyson. Don't call me Tyson. Jalen.
Trey Kirby
Yeah. Cavs have gotten a few nice wins as of late. Yeah, they're showing a little something here, I think in 2026. And you know, they beat the 76ers a couple of times. Like you're saying DeAndre Hunter, big time jab this one.
JE Skeets
Yes, he did. He played really well in.
Trey Kirby
He got Embiid in his sights. He's like, there's no way Embiid is going to be able to run backwards and also jump right at the same time. And he did the correct calculus on that one.
JE Skeets
So those are some NBA weekend winners from TK&I. Obviously lots still to pick from. Let's hear who we missed in the stream team or let us know in the comments. Or you can tweet at us at no Dunks Inc. On the old X platform. Take a quick break, then we'll do.
Trey Kirby
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JE Skeets
Oh my God, I forgot about that.
Trey Kirby
Yeah. Indiana favored by 7 1/2 points.
JE Skeets
It's in Miami.
Trey Kirby
It's in Miami against Miami.
JE Skeets
But man, they look awesome.
Trey Kirby
Yep. Who's yours?
JE Skeets
I'm taking it.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, I mean I'm not a. Not a big Indiana football fan, but it'd be cool to see him win. You know, I think I heard over the weekend that they are the all time losing his program in Division 1 history.
JE Skeets
Really?
Trey Kirby
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JE Skeets
Who would you take tonight with that line? Hoosiers. Hoosiers.
Trey Kirby
Hoosiers as well.
JE Skeets
Yeah.
Trey Kirby
Having seen them play exactly one game of football, you're actually unstoppable. Yes.
JE Skeets
Don't worry. I'll be doing that with the Winter Olympics very soon. I will be an expert on all Winter Olympic sports coming around the corner here. Okay, let's get to NBA weekend. Losers do a couple rounds. Where do you want to start?
Trey Kirby
Only one game for the Hawks, but I'm giving them a loser of the weekend because they lost pretty badly on Saturday against the Celtics. Hawks got off to a hot start. They were up 20 and it was all downhill from there. Trailed by 43 on their way to a blowout loss. I think it ended up being 26 points, but it was an easy 41. I thought for Jalen Brown in this one, he was just walking through the lane, floating in for layups. Not a lot of resistance. Three straight losses for the Hawks. The Bulls split with the Nets over the weekend, which means Atlanta is Now down into 10th place in the Eastern Conference. That's disappointing, man. I'm. It's not surprising that the Hawks are in the play in tournament, but there was a lot of hope coming into this season. They had that great run when Trey first went out with injury and Jalen Johnson really ascended, you know, I. They must have been, what, five or six games over.500 at that point. Hit a rough patch when Trey came back. The trade hasn't helped. I think maybe they're 3 and 3, but 1 and 3 basically sit in in their last four games. They got a big one right today against Milwaukee on Peacock. The Bucks have also, I think, lost three straight. They're down in 11th. So this is a big game for both teams getting in the play and mix here. But I do wonder if hitting this rough patch right before the trade deadline is kind of clarifying things for the Hawks. You couple the losing streak with Anthony Davis's injury to his hand, you're like, he's not coming back instantly. It really seems like all signs are pointing to the Hawks being told you don't need to trade for Anthony Davis. He's not going to make a big enough difference for this year. The team is. I don't know if they're sunk, they can still make a postseason appearance. They could still get lucky in the play in tournament, but it ain't gonna happen this year for the Hawks to really be a contender. So I think they need to be getting all of their Ducks in order for the summer. When they have some contracts come off the books, they can really start building around Jalen Johnson and using their salary cap space to put the right kind of team around them.
JE Skeets
They should be offering the new draft pick, of course, coming by way, they.
Trey Kirby
Should be opportunistic like for acquiring a center. Like they could still be in the mix for a gaffer or something like that, but I wouldn't want to an 80 trade. Sabonus trade is another guy they've been linked to. They shouldn't be wasting their assets on guys like that that kind of like raise their floor a little bit. They need to be playing it smart here and they need to be playing the long game here, which I think is kind of what Ansysal has been doing since he took over for the Hawks kind of build or digging them out from underneath the original Dejounte Murray trade. It's worked well. It's been. I think there's been parts of the season that have been encouraging for the Hawks, but maybe a disappointment overall. But I do think that this has been an indicative time for Atlanta saying you're still in the middle here. You need to be pointing upwards starting next summer.
JE Skeets
Do you think we're seeing the, the last, I don't know, half a season of Quinn Snyder as head coach of the Atlanta Hawks too?
Trey Kirby
Interesting. Interesting. I mean, I guess Ansi could have made a move last summer, but they wanted to see what they had with Trey and with healthy Jalen Johnson. So I can see it happening. I also don't know how long Quinn Snyder is going to want to be in rebuild mode. You know, he left Utah after they traded Mitchell and Gobert and they wanted to begin their pathway to becoming a good team. The Hawks have just been stuck in the middle for so long here that I wonder if it'll be like a mutual party always.
JE Skeets
Yeah, maybe. I mean this was a year where they came in with expectations. Like you said. I think they're over under. It was 46 and a half coming in the season. It does not look likely that they're hitting the over there. They're 20 and 24 as of today, have this big game on MLK Day here in Atlanta against the Bucks, which is big in terms of the playing race. But this is a bad, bad season. And look, you know, Trey Young was getting blamed by a lot of people, like legit, just straight up blamed for the Hawks poor defense, which was always an exaggeration. He's not a good defender, but he wasn't the sole reason, and that's proving to be true here. And they also maybe traded Trey Young for two of the only guys in the league that are worse on defense than him. I can see Jim McCullum and Corey Kisper, like, these are not locked down guys by any means. And CJ is in a hell of a slump right now.
JD (Super Producer)
Yeah.
JE Skeets
And Dyson Daniels, like, he didn't play this week. No, he didn't.
Trey Kirby
They had no defenders out there. No, I mean, Nikhil Alexander Walker can defend, but that's a lot to ask him to guard everybody.
JE Skeets
Yeah, I just, I brought up Dyson Daniels who didn't play you. Right. But I brought him up because I saw from, you know, the Instagram account Basketball Forever, the crazy Photoshops that they'll do and they're really good at the jersey swaps when like trades are happening or rumors. But I'm laughing looking at it. They have one of Dyson Daniels pointing out how he currently has the Single season worst 3 point percentage of all time. Something I brought up with Lee when we had him on Friday's show. Like, hey mate, come on, mate, talk to your Aussie and try and give him some tips from three point land. Anyway, the Photoshop is Dyson Daniels, I guess at the free throw line, but they've made his hands into like hawk claws and the ball is feathers and it looks disturbing as hell. Are you looking at it right now? It's.
Trey Kirby
It's creepy as hell.
JE Skeets
I mean, I'll drop it all slack, but anyway, you know, it's really bad when Basketball Forever is turning one of your good players into half a Hawkman because I guess he can't shoot.
Trey Kirby
Well, the ball is feathered.
JE Skeets
I don't know why the ball's feathered. Yeah, maybe that's why you can't hit a three.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, but look, he hasn't made a three pointer since December 14th. Didn't play over the weekend, but also hasn't taken a 3 in the last 3 Hawks games. How did he shoot so well last season? I don't know what was going on with that.
JE Skeets
Yeah, I mean, Lee says it's just obviously it's it's got, it's confident.
Trey Kirby
I mean it is confidence for sure. Yeah, but he's got to shoot. He's got to shoot threes. Last year, 34% on three attempts. This year, 11% on one and a half attempts. It's like a complete regression.
JE Skeets
It really is.
Trey Kirby
I mean he's regressed to being the worst three point shooting season of his career. Should have never got paid, I guess.
JE Skeets
He's got talons.
Trey Kirby
That is the problem. It's impossible to shoot with talons.
JE Skeets
All right, sticking with the bird theme. Loser of the weekend of the Raptors. Yeah, they were birds, weren't they? I don't know. That's what somebody told me. Once the Raptors lost back to back games for the first time in a long time. I think it was like three or four weeks since they had dropped two in a row. But Friday night they simply got outclassed by one of the greatest offensive players that has ever lived. Is that too far to say with James Harden? I don't think so.
Trey Kirby
No, you're exactly right.
JE Skeets
Toronto was up. They were up like seven or eight, three and a half minutes to go in regulation and then they missed six straight shots and Harden just single handedly got the Clippers back into the game, got them to overtime. He had a personal 8, 0 run. They didn't know what to really do with him. You know at times it would be shed or a baggion, he blow by them too big, too fast and then if Barnes got on him, you know, he would could still either draw a foul or obviously set up other guys. I mean it was a master class from James Harden down the stretch there. There was no Kawhi in that game. So the Clippers took care of business in overtime. He made a bunch of free throws to start overtime and they got the business done or they got the win. On Sunday night though, the Raptors, after all the football had wrapped up, Luka, LeBron and Eton crushed the Raps in the fourth quarter. 11093 victory. Raptors scored 13 points in the fourth and the Lakers, like a lot of teams we are now seeing here against the Raps, pulled out a whole lot of zone defense and they did it in the second quarter and the Raptors just could not score on it. We saw a lot more of it as the game went on and the Raptors are one of the worst teams at handling a zone defense. I'm a little shocked. Why? NBA teams don't just do it right from the jump. They always wait for Like a second or third quarter to do it. But anytime they do against Raptors, it generally works. They don't know what to do. I mean, sometimes they figure out to get Scotty Barnes the ball in the middle of the court, but then it usually just ends with him shooting like a jumper. And like if you're the other team, you're gonna live with that. Like he can hit it, but you're gonna live with that. And they gotta figure out a game plan because every team should be doing this against the Raptors because they can't shoot. That's a big part of how you beat a zone. Does help to hit some threes.
Trey Kirby
Yeah.
JE Skeets
And seven for 32 pretty bad. I think the Raptors are the worst three point shooting team over the last like 15 games.
Trey Kirby
I believe it.
JE Skeets
It's really, really bad. And the Raptors need to do something here at the deadline. Like they have to address one of two things. Okay, Bobby, you gotta do one of two things. You either gotta get some size because they're just getting bullied to hell by teams. And it doesn't help when like Colin Murray Boyles, who's not big to begin with, who's played well as a small ball guys, along with Scotty Barnes, he had to leave that game against the Lakers. I mean, Luka came down and smoked his thumb. He'd been having issues with that, so he had to leave with his thumb all banged up. Purdl hasn't played forever and like they just have no size. So you got to address that or you got to address some shooting. There's got to be a shooter or two added to this roster. Yeah, like they have no size and they can't shoot. It's a recipe for a disaster.
Trey Kirby
Yeah. When you were saying one of the greatest offensive players of all time, I thought at first, wow, man, Skeets is really big enough. Deandre Ayton here. No, no, but I mean he dominated like 10 for 10. There was no resistance inside. And it was similar with Har. Like a lot of his baskets were coming at the rim, getting downhill and no fear of anybody deterring him once he got inside. Drew a bunch of free throws as well because he was able to drive. So yeah, the question is what the Raptors are really going to be able to do because most of the reporting has been about them peddling the Purdle contract and the Quickley contract. Nobody's taking those off their hands right now. I understand those are the guys that the Raptors would want to move to either address the Size or the shooting sides of things, which is weird because both of those like pearls got size quickly. Can shoot. I know, but they're not performing up to their contracts right now. And then they extend for such a long time.
JE Skeets
You would have to attach a draft. You would have to get off them. I mean, I don't even know how many at this point.
Trey Kirby
Yeah. But otherwise it's like Barrett, I suppose is a guy who could be moved.
JE Skeets
Sure, he helps, he's helpful.
Trey Kirby
I agree he is helpful. But yeah, the zone is a problem because the three point shooting is lacking and they just don't have natural ball movers. I think Barnes is probably like the most inclined to be a passer like you're saying, but they struggle to get him the ball in places to make plays for others. So the Rafters I think are just a team that can look pretty bad when they look bad, when the shots aren't going down and they're being a sieve inside defensively. They got a little bit of time here though to try and figure something out. It's just having those two big deals where the guys are not going to be attractive to anybody else that's going to hurt.
JE Skeets
I saw a report from Josh Lewenberg with TSN over the weekend, you know, doing the whole thing saying don't be surprised. The Raptors don't make moves because they feel like their hands are, are tied. They're handcuffed here and it's like, well, yeah, I mean, sorry, you were David Blaine, man. You tied your own hands together. You gotta unlock them. I was like these contracts is what I'm getting at here. Like the pearl one sucks. Like they handed him a big deal. I remember you questioning at the time, but then unfortunately he just turned into a pumpkin. And yeah, like, can't stay healthy. Like, like Pertle when he plays is still a good player, but he just can't stay healthy. And then obviously, yeah, the quickly contract and I've already shared my thoughts on quickly as a point guard, as a starting point guard in this league. But man, they got to figure something out here. They got to like try and help out Darko and some of these other guys. Again, either sides are shooting. I don't know what the move is, but come on, your hands are tied because you did it. And so now you gotta get yourself, get your way out of it.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, like, I like manwu, I like Murray Boyles. I think they're both great, but I think that they are better suited as smog ball fives off the bench. When you either one of them is like your main center, you're going to be giving up a ton of points inside.
JE Skeets
Well, yeah, and it depends on obviously what type of teams you're playing. Some nights it works, sometimes it's not. When you're playing Zubots and then when you're playing like Ayton and stuff like that, like big, big dudes, I mean you're asking for trouble. And also like when you play small ball center, I think you can do it for weeks at a time. I think you can do it in postseason matchups when it works to do it over a full season. Like these guys, it's like they just get banged up.
Trey Kirby
Yes.
JE Skeets
I mean it's like even, even Mamu, like he took a couple hard spills in the game against the Lakers last night. Hopefully he's okay. Land on his back or his tailbone like twice. Like it adds up. Asking some of these guys to play a size up or two. I think you can do it for stretches. I don't think you can do it for a whole season. You gotta, especially now as the league goes back to being bigger and bigger and punishing on the glass and stuff like that. And Brandon Ingram, final thought on the Raptors, he has a problem handling doubles around the nail. He's just like a beat slow with either the shot or the pass or whatever he's doing and it's like resulting a lot of turnovers and teams are figuring out just send a double at him. Like he, I don't know, make him make a play. Yeah, make him make a play. So Raptors loser of the weekend, unfortunately. We'll see if they do anything here before the deadline.
Trey Kirby
You don't want to be on the wrong side of a Marcus Smart mixtape. No, this guy was like a highlight festival. That was a great pass. He had another really nice one as well. And yeah, Ayton was just running wild.
JE Skeets
Oh yeah. I mean, and look, I mean I get it. Like playing against Luca, Luca was like looking for eight and he's like, I'm just chucking it above the rim, man. Go get it. So it was good stuff. He was just coming back from injury too.
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JE Skeets
One more round of losers where you want to go.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, cheap loser here for the Oklahoma City Thunder. Yeah, I mean they only played one, but you know, they don't get. We don't get an opportunity to call them losers all that often. They lost on Saturday against the Heat. Bam. Out of bio, went for 30 points and six threes. Made chat touch earth. Yeah, on a closeout, that was pretty nice.
JE Skeets
A rebound highlight. Sorry to jump in there late in that game. Yeah, he did a big ass rebound.
Trey Kirby
He played great. Andrew Wiggins hit a clutch three pointer. 30 seconds left to put the Heat up. And Alex Caruso couldn't pull off either of two miracles, like through an awesome pass to Chet on the lob from out of bounds. I think maybe it was a one point game with like 30 seconds left. Great pass. Chat had a chance to put it down, but that's such a high risk play. You get like you get that one split second and if it doesn't work, it's probably going to be a rebound going the other way. That's what happened. Thunder did get a stop, but then Caruso couldn't hit the three off the desperation inbounds. I think he got it into Shea, passed it right back and Caruso chucked up one from the left wing. Didn't go down, but had a couple of chances with it. They take the L and it was kind of the classic tale of how you beat the Thunder. OKC gave up 21 offensive rebounds. That turned into 33 second chance points for Miami. Miami hit 23s to OKC's 13. You gotta win the three point battle. You gotta win the possession battle. The new wrinkle I thought was that Miami only turned the ball over four times against OKC. That's a tiny number. OKC turned it over 15 times. So 34 more shots for Miami to pull off a tiny, tiny win. But that's why you win the possession battle. The real reason though that I give the Thunder a loser is because Jalen Williams exited the second quarter of this game against the Heat with what they ended up calling thigh soreness. But it definitely looked like he was grabbing his hamstring. So I don't actually know what's going on with Jalen. I think he's supposed to be reevaluated today.
JE Skeets
Hamstring strain for sure. Out indefinitely.
Trey Kirby
There we go. Yeah, that's not good.
JE Skeets
No.
Trey Kirby
And it's been a stop and start season for Jaylen Williams. Took him forever to get on the court. Was really struggling with his shot once he came back. Had put together a couple of good games here and then went out with, you know, basically a non contact injury and we're hearing it's a strain now. So they're already missing Hartenstein. He's showing how important he's been to them with his rebounding first and foremost. But even the way he switches the floor for the Thunder, the little bit of interior presence he gives them as well. But now losing Jalen Williams. The good thing for the Thunder is they have so many guys who can step in. We saw how good AJ Mitchell played to start the season when Williams was on the bench, but I don't know. It's been a weird month here for Oklahoma City. Basically starting with the loss against the spurs in the cup through now where they just haven't looked unbeatable and they've taken quite a few losses and it's usually because of poor shooting and getting out physical on the glass. I'm sure they'll be able to get it back once they get everybody healthy, but this year they're just having trouble keeping everybody healthy.
JE Skeets
Yeah, there was one controversial play from this game too. I don't know if you saw it. Shea Gildos Alexander called for the offensive.
Trey Kirby
Yes.
JE Skeets
Foul on Pell Larson. It took a shot like to the ribs. Officials said it was an offensive foul and obviously it went to the Heat, stuff like that. But then the last two minute report came out and said no, got this one wrong. That actually probably was more of a foul on Larson. Shea wasn't a natur. Natural shooting sort of form and whatever. I just saw Heat and Thunder fans arguing a whole lot over that. Thunder fans were saying, you guys are only going nuts because it's SGA and you have it in your head that it's this foul merchant. But this one was wrong. He didn't actually do like going over to the sideline to create the contact. He was just doing his normal thing that he does all the time. Whereas Heat fans are like, no, he does that all the time. You know, this is what happens happen. So I guess in the end Thunder fans were right with the last two minutes suckers. Yeah, it doesn't mean it translates to a victory, unfortunately, but Yeah, I saw a lot of buzz about that play. In particular, Larson did take a shot.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, he got blasted.
JE Skeets
He always getting hit, though. Man, this guy gets hit in the face.
Trey Kirby
There's a.
JE Skeets
There's a Twitter account that just follows whether Pell Larson was hit in the face.
Trey Kirby
Great.
JE Skeets
It's so amazing. It's one of my favorite Twitter accounts.
Trey Kirby
In the rip, I saw one. He got hit in the face in a pregame warmup and even made it, made the Twitter account. But I think the first loss of the season for the Thunder, when they score 120 or more points. Oh, wow. Because, you know, I mean, if they score that many, there's the best defensive team in the league. Those are usually wins, but, like, Shea played pretty well. They shot the ball okay. They made 13 threes, almost shot 45% from the field. And it was just the glass and the turnovers that really did it on the other end for Miami. And that's what you got to do. I mean, you still have to do it. People just know now the way to beat the Thunder, you got to crush them inside. And if you can pull that off, you got a chance.
JE Skeets
And you need Myron Gardner to step up.
Trey Kirby
You need Myron to have a good game.
JE Skeets
I had heard that name before, but it definitely was like a. Whoa. Myron Gardner. 11 points. Okay.
Trey Kirby
The only time I think I know about Myron Gardner is he was the guy trash talking Klay Thompson and Karan Butler, made him apologize.
JE Skeets
That was Myron.
Trey Kirby
That's Myron.
JE Skeets
That's Myron. Not your room. That's Myron.
Trey Kirby
That's Myron for you.
JE Skeets
Yeah, but he had a great game.
Trey Kirby
He had a great game.
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JE Skeets
Yeah. Eleven. Five. I think my final loser of the weekend. I'm going to give it to Rudy Gobert and his free throw shooting. This was Friday night against the Rockets. Rough game for Rudy at the line. He finished 2 for 10 at the charity stripe in a game the Wolves lost by five. But he was up there airballing multiple free throw attempts, which. I'm sorry, that's. That's not allowed. When you're a professional Bash, you are allowed one airball free throw attempt. In one game, you can't do it two times. Durant making a stanky face.
Trey Kirby
I look disgusted. Man, this.
JE Skeets
It really is crazy when you think about it, like, they're professional basketball players. They're at the free throw line. He's a good player.
Trey Kirby
Big, strong man.
JE Skeets
It's crazy to do it twice in the same game. It's Mind boggling to me.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, it's.
JE Skeets
I just. It's weird when you. Us. I'm saying I can't. I mean, I'll speak for myself. Probably you too, TK You've played basketball your entire career. I will.
Julian Edelman
I don't.
JE Skeets
Have you ever air ball the free throw twice in a game? Have you even ever done it once in a game?
Trey Kirby
I've probably airballed free throw once. I probably have to do it twice in a game.
JE Skeets
To me is just. I. I just don't get it. Yeah.
Trey Kirby
I don't get it. The key to me is if I airball the first one, I'm gonna brick that second one, so.
JE Skeets
Okay, Sure.
Trey Kirby
I had seen another airball go down.
JE Skeets
This. This guy's struggling at the free throw. Yes. Here he is shooting just. I mean, I say just over 50%, you know, one free throw over 50%. He's 50.6% at the free throw line. Rudy Gobert, he's not that bad. He's not Steve Nash at the free throw line.
Trey Kirby
No.
JE Skeets
Okay. He never has been, but it's a lot better than 50% in a lot of his previous seasons. He's more like 65. You know, even flirting with a 70%. You're live with that. That's good. But this is really, really rough here for Rudy this year.
Trey Kirby
You think he should go underhand?
Julian Edelman
Yes.
JE Skeets
All these guys that suck should go underhand.
Trey Kirby
Koozie Corollary. If a guy started shooting underhand free throws and it worked, they'd be a star. Nobody will do it.
JE Skeets
Of course. Of course.
Trey Kirby
Do you think Kevin Durant has ever airballed a free throw in the NBA?
JE Skeets
I mean, probably weird things happen. Yeah. Like it slips or something. Never twice, I'll tell you that.
Trey Kirby
Never twice.
JE Skeets
I bet. Yeah. Has he done it more than three times in his entire career? No.
Trey Kirby
No way.
JE Skeets
No way. I. I honestly don't even know if he's ever done one. Nor should you. I want to make that very clear. I'm sorry. Like, you shouldn't. You should not. I don't get it. I don't get it. But anyway, twice in the same game.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, twice in the same game.
JE Skeets
So that's sort of worthy of a.
Trey Kirby
Of a.
JE Skeets
Of a loser. The weekend in a game where he shot two attend at the line and a game that was close, they lost by five points. You know, he does a little better at the line. Maybe they win. So. Sorry, Rudy. Yeah. I do like you.
Trey Kirby
I mean, I respect him for what.
JE Skeets
He does to a winning Back basketball. Obviously the defense, but wow. Rudy. Okay, there you go. Winner and losers of the NBA weekend. Well, boy of the night sponsored once again. I believe this is the second time for Full Metal ht. Matt Guzman himself. Am I crazy? Am I dreaming this? I think he sponsored this once before early. Yeah, yeah. But Guzman, Matt added this. J.D. before you get to the woah boy that he is willing to learn and record an Iron Maiden song of your choice on the base if.
Trey Kirby
Wow.
JE Skeets
If you can find a spare starters mechanic shirt from one of our old Vegas shows. So what a deal.
JD (Super Producer)
I mean I have a spare one probably.
JE Skeets
What song Iron Maiden song would you want him?
JD (Super Producer)
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JE Skeets
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JD (Super Producer)
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JE Skeets
All right. You got maybe something here. Maybe a potential deal.
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JD (Super Producer)
I don't know what I'm gonna do with a recording of just the baseline.
JE Skeets
I'd rather not play. Just have it. Iron.
Trey Kirby
Iron Maiden baseline going for nine minutes. Sure, why not?
JE Skeets
That could be the classic loading music.
JD (Super Producer)
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JE Skeets
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JD (Super Producer)
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JE Skeets
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Trey Kirby
Lots of talk, no spoilers. JD but you're gonna love the Bone Temple. Oh this, this, this interaction made me think of that.
JE Skeets
Oh wow. You saw Bone Temple over the weekend?
Trey Kirby
I visited. I went there.
JE Skeets
All right, well, Will boy goes to lakers big man. DeAndre Ayton thought about giving it to Denny Aia who did fill the box score. But. But I'll give it to Ayton. Cause he was perfect from the floor. He had 25 points, grabbed 13 boards, but 10 from the field. 5 of 6 at the free throw line. Good stuff from him and chipped in one block. Did not commit a turnover in 33 minutes. Played. DeAndre Eaton, your little boy of the night.
Trey Kirby
He was playing hard. He knew the assignment was run rim to rim and we will throw you the ball in the air. You catch it and dunk it.
JE Skeets
Yep, yep. And you should be able to do that. All right, let's get to the pick them here. NBA on MLK Day 2026. Coverage begins at 1:00pm Eastern Time, baby. Yeah. Bucks visiting the Hawks. You going down to the fortress?
Trey Kirby
I'm not going to be going down to the fortress.
JE Skeets
I don't believe I did hear on The Hoop Collective. Our guy Timmy Bontemps is down at the fortress for this game.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, following you, I guess so, yeah.
JE Skeets
Is he on the honest beat right now? Probably so, yeah. He gave us a shout out for the 20 year anniversary.
JD (Super Producer)
So thanks.
Trey Kirby
I'd like to see good time Timmy.
JE Skeets
Yep. So he is here at the fortress to tip off the day slate. Nine games on in total. We got basketball on all day and I thought one of the most exciting games on the docket here was Celtics at Pistons. Detroit favored by three and a half. And I'm taking the home team to. To win by four or more. But you and Tass are going. Celtics with some points to play with. This could be a good one. Should be a good one.
Trey Kirby
Yeah. This is kind of. I don't know which team I actually think is gonna win and the Celtics are getting the points. So.
JE Skeets
Okay.
Trey Kirby
I've had some. I've had some poor losses lately with picking the road underdog. So not super confident, but big game.
JE Skeets
Yeah. You started this month super strong. You're on a bit of a losing streak.
Trey Kirby
Last three this week.
JE Skeets
We got a nice battle here. Finally all three guys sort of in the mix. I'm eight and three trace six and five tasks. Five and six and lots of January still to go here. So come on, Pistons for me and these guys got the Celtics like with some points to play there. All right, that's today's show. We got there in the end. You podcast listeners don't even know what I'm talking about. If you were live on YouTube, you do. If you're watching later, you don't. That's why you gotta Join us live 20 years to see the. Yeah.
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JE Skeets
Yeah.
JD (Super Producer)
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JE Skeets
Yeah, we had some, some. I don't know what happened. The audio board just crashed on us there.
JD (Super Producer)
Audio board just crashed. I don't know. Yeah, it's been giving me guff lately.
JE Skeets
Well, I guess you can put a zero behind you on that. On that board. Zero days since last incident. Yeah, big fat zero. But it's okay. It's okay. We got there in the end. Again, thanks to everybody for joining us here today or listening. Hit the like button.
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JE Skeets
Five star ratings and reviews. A lot of thank you to everyone for the kind comments too over the last couple days here, over the weekend when we were sharing that it was the 20th anniversary and all that. A lot of kind messages from everyone. We really appreciate it. To keep the good times going, to keep the Bon Temps going. We have another special guest. It's not Timmy Buntemps, but we have another special guest joining tomorrow's show.
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JE Skeets
The bones go to the bone temple tomorrow. Brent Berry is gonna join us on tomorrow's show. So very excited for that. Haven't talked to Bones in a while. So we're in the bone zone tomorrow and hope to see you joining us at 10am Eastern. And we'll catch up with Bones. Now that he's working for. What the hell's he working? I can never keep track of.
Trey Kirby
I think he's Primetime.
JE Skeets
He's. Wait, is he prime time? So he's Amazon? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Trey Kirby
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JE Skeets
That's right. That's right. So very excited to talk to him. Hope to see you here. TAS will be back with us. Until then, Clipper Bros, you heard it here first.
Trey Kirby
Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome. Thanks for joining us. All these times, all these years, I got nothing. I got nothing in my brain kicking around for a quote.
JE Skeets
Well, you. Nothing from the bone collector.
Trey Kirby
It doesn't make any sense, but, you know, there's a lot of hanging out with a zombie in this one.
JE Skeets
Hanging out with a zombie.
Trey Kirby
Yeah, just kicking it. Yeah, that's pretty funny.
JE Skeets
Okay.
JD (Super Producer)
Yeah.
JE Skeets
All right, I'm excited. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Embrace the day people.
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Episode: NBA Weekend Winners & Losers | An Epic Duel, Ja Morant Returns, KD Passes Dirk In Career Points
On Martin Luther King Jr. Day, Skeets, Trey, and Super Producer JD celebrate 20 years of their basketball podcasting journey while breaking down the weekend's biggest NBA storylines. The crew revisits major wins and losses, highlights standout individual performances, and provides essential context around developing narratives—from epic player duels to milestone achievements and team trajectories in the 2025-26 NBA season.
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This episode dives deep into the weekend’s biggest NBA stories—Anthony Edwards vs. Wemby, Ja Morant’s triumphant London return, and Kevin Durant’s latest entry in the history books. There’s analysis of team performance trends, a critical eye on trade season priorities, and plenty of classic No Dunks fun—worthy of any hoops fan’s time!