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J. Skeets
Limu game.
Tasmelis
And Doug.
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T.K.
Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.
J. Skeets
Cut the camera. They see us.
Tasmelis
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Tasmelis
Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first, there the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.
J. Skeets
Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the no Dunks podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Monday, November 10th, 2025. I'm J. Skeets here in the classic factory and alongside me as always, Tasmelis.
Tasmelis
Hey, basketball lovers, this one's for you.
J. Skeets
Next to him, it's my top shot, hot boy. It's Trey Kirby Ayo. Hey, yo. And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer jd. Hello. There he is. Here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hello podcast listeners. On today's show, we're going to run through our NBA weekend winners and losers as we always do. On Monday, we're also going to highlight a few wedgies and finally we'll share what our pick and payoff is. Completely forgot to do that on Friday.
T.K.
Sorry.
J. Skeets
Even though we promised it. So we'll tell you today at the end of today's show what our payoff is for the month of November. But first, we start with some sad news. Lenny Wilkins, one of the true legends of the game, died on Sunday. The 88 year old Wilkins grew up in Brooklyn. He played for St. Louis, Cleveland, Portland, and then coached six different franchises during his 32 seasons on the sidelines. This guy was named to the NBA's 50th anniversary team in 96, to the 75th anniversary team in 2021, and was also honored as a top 10 and top 15 coach as part of those anniversary celebrations. But Lenny Wilkins, gone at 88. But what a true basketball lifer, Tess.
Tasmelis
Yeah, he touched so many things in his basketball life. And he was that settling coach I found over his years. Obviously helped Seattle win that championship. Then in Toronto, when a lot of people didn't want to be in Toronto and things weren't going right, he comes in and helps them win their only playoff round in the first 20 years of their franchise. He was just that guy to settle everything down and help them. Hopefully in honor of Seattle, they get that franchise back for the name of Lenny Wilkins. Because he was Seattle basketball for a long time.
T.K.
Yeah. Lenny Wilkins to me is a guy I learned about through basketball cards. And everything you would find out was kind of unbelievable. Like he led the N in wins as a coach for a long time. And then you go back and you're like, wait a second. He was a Hall of Fame player as well. Wait a second. He was a player coach for multiple seasons. And I looked it up. He never led his team in minutes when he was the player coach, which I think is a lot of integrity to play yourself the most. But yeah, in the hall of Fame as both a player and a coach. Pretty amazing career for Lenny Wilkins.
J. Skeets
Yeah. Nine time all star. He was the 71 all star game MVP. And then all the coaching, he has over 1300 wins. I think he's third all time when it comes to regular season coaching wins. Popovich, Don Nelson and then Lenny Wilkins. And yeah, it was pretty cool that he was like one of the last player coaches. I think Dave Cowan's did it too. But there's something awesome about that, you know, I'll do both.
T.K.
Yeah.
J. Skeets
Do you get two paychecks? No, probably not.
T.K.
Definitely not back then.
J. Skeets
Yeah. But this. I also feel like for a guy that's been around forever or was around forever, like I can't remember anyone having an ill thing to say about Lenny Wilkins. And you hear all like the, like the support coming out obviously after his passing. Like Steve Kerr saying, just like the most thing about him is like his dignity. And he had that quiet confidence, but he was just well liked by everyone. It felt like both as a player and as a coach.
Tasmelis
Yeah. As I mentioned that, that settling feel for a guy to be on your bench, that's what he was. Brought everybody together. Never got under people's skin. It sure felt like.
J. Skeets
Yeah. We also lost another legend in our world this weekend. We lost Yams the Brown dog. So condolences to you, T.K. what? 17 years old.
T.K.
Your dog Yams was 17. Laura and I got married in December of 2008. We adopted her in June of 2009. She lived with us everywhere from Lombard to Toronto to all of our places here in Atlanta. So a very sad weekend for us, for sure.
J. Skeets
But a well lived life.
Tasmelis
A well lived life.
T.K.
She did a lot. She did a lot of stuff and went a lot of weird places. We were reminiscing about her having a doggy life vest that had a handle on the back and we could pick.
J. Skeets
Her up.
T.K.
Hanging stuff. So very weird to not hear her click clacking around the house. I'm not letting her out at night for the first time and, you know, my adult life is what it feels like.
J. Skeets
So that's tough.
T.K.
Sad times.
J. Skeets
I found a tweet that you shared or tweeted in 2013 that said. Pretty happy to find out that when you Google NBA Dogs, Yams is the first image result I've checked. Unfortunately, Yams is not still the first image result for NBA Dogs. It's a lot of Christian and Scooby, if we're being honest. But that's pretty amazing. At a certain point, Yams was so rest in peace.
T.K.
Yeah. There's a photo of her wearing a Bulls hat somewhere out there.
J. Skeets
Is that why?
Tasmelis
Yeah.
T.K.
So I know she was happy to see the Bulls doing so well this season beginning.
J. Skeets
Good.
T.K.
Telling her all the time, you know.
J. Skeets
Well, we had some wedgies this weekend. Let's get the spirits back up in here. Number nine and number ten over the weekend. Friday night, Nick Claxton. Stick Claxton, we're calling him on this one. Getting his hand in there on the offensive rebound attempt. A lot of bodies in there, but I think it really is Clacton Claxton jamming it in there. So that was number nine, NBA cup game and then this one. Controversial. Oh, boy. Jeremy Grant. He got the offensive foul call and then traveled, let's be honest, and then sticks it. And we're like, should we count it? Should we not? It didn't result in free throws. It didn't result in a jump ball. It fouled him out of the game. We put it to a poll on Twitter. Like, 70% of the people said, you gotta count that.
Tasmelis
What else are they gonna say? I say, we gotta see that. Hey, every wedgie is a snowflake. That travel thing that he turned, we've never seen that before where he spins with the ball. He's playing with it in his hands and shoves it in there. Never before.
J. Skeets
People are like, come on continuation, it's like, oh, yeah.
T.K.
Yeah, why not?
J. Skeets
Yeah, count it. Who cares? We're up to 10. You love to see it, don't you? All right, let's get into NBA weekend winners and losers. TK we're gonna start with you. We'll do a couple rounds of winners, eventually make our way to losers. What do you got?
T.K.
Winner of the weekend, the first place Detroit Pistons smack the Nets on Friday. Won a nail biter against the 76ers on Sunday. If I'm being honest, I would have given whichever team won a winner of the weekend that one. But it was the Pistons who pulled it off. Six straight wins for them. This is their best 10 game start since the 0506 season. It was yet another Cade Cunningham takeover in this one. Two points in the first half, just 1 of 9 shooting. Though I do think he was playing a pretty solid floor game, getting off the ball quickly with the the blitzes that the Sixers were throwing at him. But Cade caught fire in the second half 24 after halftime. Had 17 in the third quarter. Really dragged the Pistons four back into the game. He scored five of the last seven points for Detroit and assisted on the other two. Had the huge dunk where he just leaves Kelly Oubre in his dust and throws it down over Andre Drummond who realized, I'm not going to be able to get up there, but I can jump a little bit. He also had a jumper to put Detroit up by three with 17 seconds left. Kind of a weird play from Philadelphia. Thought down three. I was like, were they just trying to not get fouled? You know, because the team on defense wants to foul when they're up 3. So you have to kind of be picky and choosy when you're going to foul. Philadelphia was moving the ball quite a bit. It looked like there were several shots they could have taken, but they didn't take any of them. Cade though, has been the closer. Kofi called him closer Cade when we had him on, he's leading the league in total fourth quarter points this season. He's second in per game fourth quarter points as well, shooting great percentages. Only five turnovers to 20 assists. Like most of Cade's turnovers come in the first three quarters of the game when he's trying to get everybody else involved. But he's seventh in fanduel's MVP odds right now. I think that should be higher and maybe it will as time ticks on. But another awesome performance from him and Jaylen Duran is doing it every single night. 21 and 16 in this one plus four stocks. I know Task hates it, but it feels good to say it in this scenario.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
T.K.
He was stocking it up out there and I was listening to the Sixers broadcast because they had their beautiful uniforms, their old school court. Allah. Abdel Nabi compared him to Otis Thorpe.
Tasmelis
Wow.
T.K.
I was like, wow, that's a throwback. And I think it's mostly arms.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
T.K.
Jacked just like Otis Thorpe was. Otis Thorpe used to be one of two guys who had muscles. It was like him and Carmelo. That's it. But now a lot of guys have them. Endurance might be some of the biggest, but he was ferocious in this one. Great synergy with Cade. Like I said, I thought Cade played a really smart first half. He was getting Durin really involved because Drummond was really high up on these pick and rolls. They were trying to trap Kate. He was getting off the ball really quickly, which led to a big scoring night for Jalen Duran. But then in the second half, Cade was just so much more patient, hanging onto the ball much longer, waiting for Drummond to back off. And then he could just go right at Kelly Oubre, who's too skinny really to handle Cade inside. So those two guys look awesome together. Pistons first place.
Tasmelis
Yeah. It feels like Cade's takeovers are getting earlier and earlier because they used to be just fourth quarter where he had to score. And then in the third quarter when his team needed him against this Philadelphia 76ers team that is looking solid and looked good against those Raptors on Saturday. He literally just went into takeover Mode in the third quarter with 17 points where no one could stop him. He gets into his dribble game and he's able to peel back. Defensively, I thought he was awesome at predicting where guys were going. He was doing really well on that end. I questioned coming into the season, no Dennis Schroeder to help him just carry the load with the ball. Not needed. With how Cade Cunningham is growing, he's clearly going to get some MVP votes. He's one of the best players in the game. He is just so dedicated. They close this game along with Duran and Asar and Cade with Javante Green and Ron Holland. Javante Green's not going to be finishing games later on when Tobias Harris gets back or Jay Nivey gets back. Even Ron Holland had to make some poor decisions. But that didn't matter. They were still clicking under Cade Cunningham's lead role. And then you had that dunk on Drummond was ridiculous.
J. Skeets
You don't see a dunk like that usually like in a one possession game in the fourth quarter, right? Like that is something you see like in the first 36 minutes of a game. But not right at the end. But yeah, just blew by him and threw it down and then he had the one. I thought it was a weird coaching decision from Nick nurse and the 76ers. The one where he hit the little jumper that actually sort of iced it. Like really tough little fadeaway jumper in the lane. Strange double from Quentin Grimes. Like I get the idea. Get it out of Cade's hand, but don't just scream up there on one side. Kate just saw it. He's like, he's coming from that way. I'm gonna go this way and just went right into the lane and then hit a tough shot. Don't get me wrong. But it's just like again, I get it. Double him, get it out of his hands, but come at it with a little, little more tact than just scream up. If you watch me. Just runs right at him and he's like, okay, I guess I'll just go this way. But Cade has been awesome and Duran's like, Cade's all NBA. Duran is like all star level right now. 19 and 12.
Tasmelis
Yeah. Feels like he's sort of flying under the radar a little bit. I wouldn't make the Otis Thorpe comparison myself. You know, we're. We're oldies. We know Otis Thorpe, but the Jalen Duran bod is. It's out of this world.
J. Skeets
Here we go. Talking about a bot. Let's go.
Tasmelis
No, I'm back. I'm backing Giannis's. He commented this is what Giannis said in the off season when he was interviewed by the the Greek media is first talk about playing in Europe versus the US and how it's different is that you got these huge bodies in America like Jaylen Durant and looking at Jaylen Durant, he's taken some photos with the shirt off. The guy is massive. Way bigger than Otis Thorpe. I'll respect Al Den Albi, but either.
J. Skeets
Way, Dwight, like isn't he really even bigger? He's bigger than Dwight.
Tasmelis
You've got to see the, the photo with the shirt off. The guy is humongous either way. I think he's sort of flying under the radar with Cade leading the way. But he, Kate, doesn't need all that much help. The Quentin Grimes double was weird, but everybody else is just. I mean he needs help, I should say, but everybody else is just falling into line. Karis Levert now is the guy Coming off the bench and he's playing well in his role in a limited role, but they don't need a ton. They don't need Dennis Schroeder of last year who is playing a ton of. They don't need it.
J. Skeets
But they could also use it for sure. And it's. Usually it would be Ivy. Right? I think is who would you imagine.
Tasmelis
Because he's doing a decent job too.
J. Skeets
Well, Sar hit a jumper in this game late. That was a miracle. I felt like.
Tasmelis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
And then he brought up haul and he like, yeah, hit or miss here from time to time and down the stretch. But the thing is, like, you know, they're running Cade and Jalen Duran pick and roll. And that's fine because right now it feels a little bit unstoppable. But a team can really pack the pain on that. And Maxi saw it coming. Like the one turnover Cade did have late, the one where Maxi went the other way and dunked it. It was all because, like, well, we don't. They're not going to do anything else. So, like Maxi, like, held off the corner and like he jumped it. Right. He knew that the pass was going to Duran because they throw bodies at Cade. They try and slip it to Durin, let him operate at the top, but they saw it, they went the other way. But I'm just saying, man, you had one more playmaker, like one more guy out there that that ball can get swung and they can attack. Very dangerous team. And they're already good. Yeah.
Tasmelis
Oh, yeah. I was looking up the NBA cup schedule, hoping that we were going to see a rematch of Pistons, Knicks from last year's playoffs, but they're not in the same group. It's not happening. But Kaden Cunningham, I know they're cutting right now. They're thinking about the playoff packages of this guy and you can use that dunk on Andre Drummond and him getting to the line, yelling at his bench, saying, that's the. I'm talking about. And he's got the huge scratches on his arm. I could see the ESPN movie collaborations that they do going to the playoffs. You know, there's something there with the superhero scratch design. Yeah, exactly. There's something there. The guy's awesome and he's. He's clearly leading that team again. Couple guys come back and help him out. This team is awesome.
J. Skeets
Yeah. Jaylen Duran. I checked. I wanted to see where he was on Most improved player on FanDuel. Pretty far down plus 2000. Still giddy as the favorite, Denny Avdia. These make Sense. These guys have been awesome. Ryan Rollins slipping in there. Austin Reeves, Amin, Thompson. But Jalen Durant at + 2000. He has improved. That's the thing. I brought it up a week ago or so ago. The free throw shooting jumps off the page. Like, whoa, he's actually decent there now. I think he was like 5 for 7 in last night's game, but he's still over 80% after a really down year. He's more confident out there. Playmaking is still improving. He's great. And I have an idea I want to throw at you guys because we got this new All Star weekend right where it's going to be, I guess. Two American teams and one international team.
Tasmelis
Yeah. Who knows who's playing for these teams? It's so strange thinking about it.
J. Skeets
Let me propose this for a new All Star tournament idea. Keep one American team of superstars, keep the international team, and then let's just make a Jalen team.
T.K.
All Jalens.
J. Skeets
We got really good Jalens right now with Jalen Duran blossoming into an awesome center. Jalen Duran, center. Jalen Johnson, power forward, hopefully. Jalen Williams of the Thunder, back somewhat soon. We know he's all NBA level. He's the small forward. We'll put Jalen Brown at the two guard and we'll put Jalen Brunson at the point guard position. Awesome team. Jalen Suggs off the bench. Jalen Green went healthy off the bench. Jalen Smith, he's played okay for the Bulls. Why not? That's eight right there. That's all we need.
T.K.
That's pretty good, actually.
J. Skeets
Yeah, let's throw them in.
Tasmelis
Yeah.
T.K.
A Jalen Rose coach.
J. Skeets
Done. Yeah.
Tasmelis
Yeah, it's better than the fourth G League team as they had. Yeah.
J. Skeets
Last year.
Tasmelis
That's way better. But it sure feels like there should be a fourth team with the way they've got things designed.
J. Skeets
So, yeah, team of Jalen's makes sense. That's a good team right there. Yeah.
Tasmelis
And he's. He's young, you know, it didn't.
J. Skeets
Oh, he's super young.
T.K.
He's not even 22, I don't think.
Tasmelis
No. Yeah, he's turning 22 on the day that they're here in Atlanta to play the Hawks later on this month.
J. Skeets
See, at Magic City.
T.K.
Yeah, that favors the Hawks, actually.
J. Skeets
I'm taking the Hawks that day for sure.
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Tasmelis
And Doug here we have the Limu.
J. Skeets
Imu in its natural habitat helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual. Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug Limu.
T.K.
Is that guy with the binoculars watching us?
J. Skeets
Cut the camera. They see us.
Tasmelis
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J. Skeets
Liberty Liberty Liberty Savings Very unwritten by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company and affiliates. Excludes Massachusetts. All right Pistons, a well deserved winner of the weekend. Let's go to you next Alper and Shangun.
Tasmelis
Easily a winner of the weekend. The game against the spurs was definitely the NBA cup game of the season. So far it was just a spectacular game. Now Alper and Shen Goon is up to be anyone's rival in this league. It's clear he was going at Wemby. Now, was there some flopping from Alper and Shangun? Sure. Was there a Shane Goon moment where he hammered Wemby when they're lining up for a free throw when the game is basically over? Yeah, but that's what makes a guy you hate to play against. A clear sign of a guy who wants to play hard. And he was going at Wemby. Those awesome moves when he would show both his shoulders to just to get enough space and bang it home. Wemby underneath the hoop or the footwork to get around Wemby and the three going into the fourth quarter against this team in San Antonio, who was playing really awesome. It was such a good game. And then in the fourth to really show up hitting five shots for 14 points. The guy is becoming the superstar that the Rockets need. It was awesome. And then. So even though they lost that game, which we'll get to because the spurs played fricking great and they have to be a winner of the weekend. Yanis. Ted Kumpo against Shengoon on Sunday was really fun. Sengun did a lot of his work against Miles Turner, but I was more impressed with the assists on this team that we all wondered where the guard play is coming from. He's so good. He's so good at passing. He had seven to lead this team on Sunday. He is the team leader with 7.3 assists per game. And again it was. A lot of it was against Miles Turner, but when it came down to it and they needed to to ice it, he took the ball end to end with Yannis picking him up full court and he was able to go past him and go around him and go around the team. And then here comes the double flex afterwards. Sengun is just ready to be hated by another team. And that is what a superstar is all made of. I mean, it's super. It's super, super fun. He had this rivalry going on in the Euro basket against Yanistan Gumbo, but they respected each other, appreciated each other. And I don't know how much Wemby appreciates him with that. It was a Shane Goon shoulder to Wemby's face when it was all said and done, but either way, he's awesome.
J. Skeets
So Shen Goon's alter ego is Shane Goon. When he's like a badass. I do like that.
T.K.
That's really good.
J. Skeets
A lot. Good stuff.
Tasmelis
Yeah. Reggie Miller did it, man.
J. Skeets
That's all right, the crazy play that Tass alluded to there as. As the lights flicker on us. Shen Goon versus Giannis, Golden Atlanta. What was nuts. Yeah.
Tasmelis
Oh, my God. Go ahead.
J. Skeets
It was a good trade.
T.K.
That was awesome. The way Sengun, I mean, he beats Giannis once and then just pulls it out to, like, run a little bit more time off the clock, then beats him again inside, finishes over the top. Got the end one. Sengun took the two biggest shots of the game because he also had the play where Durant hits him after a pick and roll, short roll, he's in the lane, gives Giannis a bump and has the patience to just kind of be like, oh, if I turn for a half second here, easy hook shot. Knock that one down, too. And then, you know, the end one that really iced the game. I thought it was a complete performance from Sengoon and he really brough for his team coming back from what they were down 8 with maybe 5 minutes left or something like that. Went on a crazy run. I thought Reed shepherd was really good in this game. Had three steals and a block in the fourth quarter. I think he finished with 16 on the night, hitting his threes, competing on the defensive end. And he's little, but he can make plays defensively. So I think he had five stocks on the night. And then Kevin Durant, like, had a little bit of a slump, was turning the ball over a ton, scored really well against the Bucks. But I love the defense from Durant. He had Gary Trent Jr. Maybe was trying to take him, got him on a pump fake. But Durant stays down, still challenges, and he was just giving it his all 10 games into the season, trying to, like, set a tone for the Rockets. I think sometimes he'll be their leading scorer, sometimes he'll be their go to guy. Shen Goon has been that. But Duran is doing everything else that his team needs.
J. Skeets
Anything to add to that? The KD part of it all. I love that. I love this idea. Like, Katie sort of carries them for chunks of the game, but it is the Alper and Changu sort of at the end.
Tasmelis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
And Katie seems completely fine with it because he sees, like, oh, there's a mismatch go to work. That play where he got around Giannis was. I mean, Yanis went for the steal from behind. It was really weird decision by him, but then he wasn't done. That was like the first half of the play because then Shen did all the work inside to get, and then he started flexing.
Tasmelis
It was a lot of work. But yeah, yeah, the the Shangun Durant top of this team is trickling down to guys like Reed shepherd who I don't know if that was his best game of his NBA career, but it felt like it more so just because of all the things he's doing.
J. Skeets
My winner of the weekend. You said it there Tas. The spurs deserving as a team but specifically Darren Fox coming back on Saturday night look great. Pretty good debut season debut for Fox. He nailed a calmly nailed a 10 footer like sort of step through floating type jumper with about 30 seconds left on Saturday night to ice the spurs victory over the pelicans. He had 24 points, 9 of 14 shooting. Again this is his first game since March 12th. He had a really good second quarter, 15 points. He exploded in this like small three minute window. Chipped in three boards, three assists. But great game and a team that already looked good led by Wembanyama getting stuff from Castle. Now adds Darren Fox, one of the best clutch closers in the game and he's now going to get reps here with these guys. This is his only sixth game with Wemby. Barely played with him last year, first time starting alongside Castle and to me that's the guy that's going to benefit the most of having Fox back. It's like one thing Wemby's going to be Wemby. Castle now gets to go back to his more like I think true role as sort of an off guard who can make a bunch of plays off of instinct. Fox can handle the ball a lot more. He just brings a balance I think to this team, to their offense and the pace of it all. So good stuff from Fox's debut coming off the win against the Rockets in that huge cup game.
Tasmelis
It was a super good cup game I thought an incredible court. Incredible court. It was gray but hard work pays off. But it's a nice gray. That's. That's a great court. And I know there's not much of a a list to rank a game as the like this this weekend as a great NBA cup game but yeah, I would, I would. Ranked at Spurs Rockets was freaking fun. I I thought in that game the spurs were just matching the Rockets ability to grab offensive boards. That was so fun to watch. The spurs grabbed 15 offensive boards and then even when the Rockets scored you got the Mitch Johnson call of right away push it. And they did. And so he is they're law locked in into winning games and turning over the Rockets and then to, to go into dear and Fox came Back really quickly from that hamstring injury. He said he was healthy, but the spurs wanted to take it slow and to see his speed up there. He looked obviously great. And there's going to be so much space, as you mentioned, with Wemby out there. You can see how much better Visell is, Kelvin John is, Kelton Johnson is. Those guys are playing well. Even a little Jeremy Sohan out there.
T.K.
Trey playing -7 in 20 minutes.
Tasmelis
He had some good.
T.K.
Trust me. The guys that I trash, I always check their plus minus.
Tasmelis
You're a plus minus man.
T.K.
Well, I mean, I care if the team is playing well when they're on the court.
Tasmelis
Yeah, well, three games so far. Yeah, he's a minus six, minus two and minus seven. Yeah, he's shooting well. He's shooting 59% from three anyway. Or from two, I should say. Anyway, moving on. They obviously look great. Fox can get space out there with Wemby.
T.K.
I think Fox is going to average a career low in assist this year. They don't need him to be their creator. Stefan Castle is an awesome creator. He had 13 assists in this first game with Fox and I think Castle is the best at finding Wemby for lobster. Anytime he gets in the lane, he throws it up really, really high. Wemby knows how to finish it. Fox only three assists, but they need his scoring more than anything, especially in clutch time. He had six points, a couple assists in the fourth quarter. He had that nice finish through Herb Jones where he just bumps him off and he had a step through around Jeremiah Fears. He's a guy that can go get his own shot. Finished first and clutch player of the year once upon a time.
J. Skeets
That's right.
T.K.
Yeah. 12th the next year, but men was still doing it enough to get a couple of votes out there. I like to see that Wemby's an awesome player, but it's hard for a big guy to be the go to guy in the clutch. Somebody has to get him the ball and then as we've seen like in the Suns game, they're going to put a small guy on him and then have help. There's going to be a lot of eyeballs on Victor Wembanyama. It's much easier for a perimeter player to just go out there and cook one on one and that's something that Fox is really, really good at. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him have low assist numbers but high scoring numbers because they need somebody with the ball in their hands to go make a play. When the shot clock is running down.
J. Skeets
Let's do another round of weekend winners. Who else you got in your list?
T.K.
Who else do I have on my list? The Cleveland Cavaliers. I think they're flying totally under the radar right now. Four straight wins. They beat the Wizards and the Bulls this weekend had one of the highlights of the season when DeAndre Hunter broke Josh Giddy's ankle and then dunked all over Pat Williams. Bulls had to call a timeout to get Giddy off the court. And it had an effect on the game. Cause Giddy had to take to the hoop with like a minute 20 left. 0 lift on a missed layup. They should have probably gone with Tre Jones down the stretch. Whatever. Bulls didn't score the final 1:40 and Donovan Mitchell. This dude just is a straight up Bulls killer. They had it on the broadcast. No player has ever averaged more points per game than Donovan Mitchell. He's like 29.3. I assume he's still leading all time cause he had 29, 6 and 6 in this one. Including 13 in the fourth quarter to push them over over the top. I do think the Cavs are kind of in a tough spot. Nobody cares at all what they do during the regular season. They lost in five games in each of the past three post seasons. 2023 is first round against the Knicks. Their first taste of the playoffs. No big deal. I think 24 and 25 were more disappointing in 2024. They lost to Boston in the second round four to one. Boston did go on to win the championship last year. They lost to the Pacers in the second round four to one. They went to game seven of the NBA finals. So maybe it doesn't look quite as bad when you view it from that lens. But it's early days. They're top 10 on both sides of the ball. Seven guys right now are averaging double digits in scoring. That includes only two games from Darius Garland. But he played okay when he's been out there. Didn't play against the Bulls. It was second night of a back to back for them. My only concern with the Cavs, I was watching league pass. They show you the in arena bits. They did one where they hooked guys up to a polygraph and ask them one question. Do you scrub your feet in the shower? A lot of guys who don't wash their feet on this too. Jared Allen says, it's a long way down. I can't do it every time. He's like, pick your battles. Bad knees are a bad feet or a bad back. Thomas Bryant said, yeah, I washed my Feet. And the polygraph reader said, nope. So bad. He's like, come on, that's my routine. I watched the lower extremities first, then the top half. Jaylon Tyson was just like, nah, that's a good bit. Yeah, it was really, really funny. Craig Porter Jr. And Lonzo Ball, they sometimes wash their feet, but something to.
J. Skeets
Keep an eye on going forward.
T.K.
Do they miss games with athlete foot?
J. Skeets
That was good. I didn't see that.
Tasmelis
I think that's a. It's a common trend of just men overall. They just don't wash their feet. They just let the water trickle down. Yeah, they're clean, good to go.
J. Skeets
Do you have a. Do you have a bench in your. Or a seat in your shower? It does help, right? Well, I mean, I don't know. You're getting. We're getting old, man. You're going to fall over in the shower.
T.K.
Jared Allen, take a seat.
Tasmelis
Yeah, that's a good feeling to wash a foot.
J. Skeets
Incredible.
Tasmelis
I believe Thomas Bryant, I believe he washes his feet.
T.K.
He was so bad. How dare you say that.
J. Skeets
I am happy you added that part where like, unfortunately, none of this matters. After the idea of, like, are the Cavs being overlooked? Are they going under the radar? I mean, no one cares. No one cares. I'm sorry. Cavs fans, it's going to be like this all season. You're going to win 60 games, if not more. You're going to look great on both ends. You have a great team. We all know that. You have a bunch of all Stars.
Tasmelis
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
J. Skeets
Nobody gives a shit until you actually make a playoff run. That's just where they're at. In the cycle of good NBA teams, they're not the first, they won't be the last. You know, it's not the first Donovan Mitchell team where we've gone through this, right? The Jazz back in the day, same thing. Really good regular season, what happens in the playoffs. But yeah, seven and three. A solid start. Even though they don't respect the Cup.
Tasmelis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
Just come back to hurt them.
T.K.
Wait, the Cavs, you don't think respect the Cup?
J. Skeets
No. They set like, they sat, like, four guys against the Raptors.
Tasmelis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
First cup game.
Tasmelis
Oh, yeah.
T.K.
That wasn't very respectful. You're right.
J. Skeets
It wasn't totally right.
Tasmelis
Yeah. People don't care. I don't know if people really cared enough about Darius Garland dunking on Wemby last year. That was. This is. Excuse me. Not Darius Garland. DeAndre Hunter. Last year, that was as a Hawk. And now he's doing it as a Cav. Still, I don't think it got enough credit to drop Josh Giddey and have a dunk on the same play. That's all I'm saying is that there's just not enough care for.
J. Skeets
It was a good play. Of the top 10 plays of the night.
Tasmelis
Yeah, it was an awesome play. Oh, my. People forget. People will forget about it.
J. Skeets
It's like one of the. I forget. I don't even know if they have a name, but remember those little toys that you could, like, press down on them and they would, like, collapse? That's what Giddy looked like. Like when Hunter showed, he just collapsed to the side and then. Yeah, he finished it with a dunk.
Tasmelis
Nice dunk.
J. Skeets
It was big. Big play. All right, Cavs at winner of the weekend task. What do you got?
Tasmelis
I'm going to Derek Queen, Pells rookie versus The Spurs. He got a blessing from a legend. He was playing in San Antonio. And as he was playing the Pelicans broadcasters, Antonio Daniels said, tim Duncan just sent me a text. He said, I really like that Queen guy. That is a blessing that you. You have been kissed by a legend to receive that. And watching that game, he had great passes leading all of his cutters. Whether he got doubled, he was able to see around them. He was able to throw an alley oop. He had eight helpers in this game. I'm sure Tim Duncan was sitting up in his press box enjoying not press box, his sweet. Enjoying not being bothered by anybody. And also watching this kid play incredible ball. Now, his numbers aren't all that great this season, but they're running the offense through him when he's out there on the floor.
J. Skeets
And.
Tasmelis
It'S something. It's something for Pelicans fans to be happy about. There's not a lot, so I had to. When Tim Duncan gives you that, that, hey, that guy's good. That's all you need to be a winner of the weekend. And that's. That's more than what they have. They're 2 and 7. They're not winning a lot of basketball games. But you go into San Antonio and you're running through the offense, through you. They went and traded a lot for him this past offseason, and he's coming off the bench. If the season goes poof and everybody's hurt, he may start. And you can see that happening and you can see why he's so talented that there's also a reason that he should be playing more basketball out there. So, Derrick Queen, you're a winner of the weekend. That's for sure.
J. Skeets
Winner of the weekend for friendship, too. Nice to know Antonio Daniels and Tim Duncan still sharing texts.
Tasmelis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
J. Skeets
During the game, like you said, while he was sitting up there in his.
T.K.
And he cut to him right away.
J. Skeets
Yeah. In the dark, it looked like. Yeah, like us.
T.K.
The lights are flickering.
Tasmelis
He's by himself in there. No buddies. It didn't look like there wasn't a friend.
J. Skeets
Just how he likes it.
Tasmelis
He's like, I need a friend, Antonio. Let's be friends. No, he does like it. Solo for sure.
J. Skeets
Okay. Queen getting a little love. Pelicans fans will be happy. They need that. That's really nice of you.
Tasmelis
Yeah, that was a fun game to be able to play with the Spurs. They're hanging with the Spurs.
J. Skeets
Yeah. Showed some fight.
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T.K.
Two wins and a close loss. That's a great week for the Pelicans. Now all Derrick Queen has to do is be better than the top three picks next year.
J. Skeets
Yeah, no pressure. No pressure.
T.K.
But like, it looks awesome. They were running the offense through him. Like you're saying he gets compared. Literally. He has Baby Jokic as his nickname. On basketball reference, he's a little bit more Shenun, I would say, than Jokic, but all these guys get compared to each other. And he has good court awareness, good skills. He hit that cool, like between the legs. Step back. Dirk sort of fade away jumper. The. He threw a couple of different alley oop style passes. One was like a little bit more sauce on it. One of them was a real high looper, I think to Trey Murphy. He had 41. He's got skills, he's talented for sure. He'll probably be targeted defensively. Doesn't move all that well. But enjoyable performances.
Tasmelis
Yeah. And a big smile, too. Huge smile. Million dollar smile to rub off on. On teammates who if we're going to be really positive, we've seen the DeAndre Jordan signing, the Kavon Looney signing in the off season to try and help this guy be a professional. So that's what Joe Mar Dumars is focused on. Get this guy to another level. Because they may be going in a different direction in the next few months.
J. Skeets
Few other winners I just wanted to tip our cap to. On Friday night, the Raptors beat the Hawks again here in Atlanta. They improved to 2 and oh. In the cup group play. They respect the Cup. Raptors are sitting pretty. I'm probably jinxing it right now, but they have two games remaining in their cup stage versus The Wizards and the Pacers, two of the worst teams in the league right now.
Tasmelis
They're going to the quarterfinals.
J. Skeets
I mean, I'm looking ahead, but the Raps should win this group. Two more wins for OKC over the weekend. They're now an impressive 101 on Friday, Isaiah Hartenstein had the best game of his NBA career. 33 and 19 nearly a big brief. Both career highs, you know, win over the Kangs. And then on Sunday, OKC outscored the Grizzlies by 25 points in the second half to roll to the 114, 100 victory. Shay. Awesome. 35 points. He went takeover mode again. So OKC keeps winning the running with the Timberwolves podcast. Tweeted @us quote, I look forward to seeing my T Wolves named a winner of the weekend. 2 and oh record and a plus 6, 7 weekend in my estimation meets the criteria. That's good weekend. Did dominate the Jazz and the Kings. Bad weekend for the Kings on the other end of a lot of these, but I mean, they kicked ass. We'll show you the court in loser of the weekend though, later. Sorry, sorry.
Tasmelis
Podcast.
J. Skeets
Yeah. And then finally, winner of the NBA weekend, Andre Drummond for bringing his dog to a post game press conference. We need more dogs at post game press conferences. Here's Bob Marley being a good boy right beside Andre Drummond there going. No, just go in scumbag mode with the, you know, the, the white tea. White tea there.
Tasmelis
Oh, I thought you're talking about the dog.
J. Skeets
No, no.
Tasmelis
Looks like he's got a dirty nose.
J. Skeets
Yeah, yeah. That's Bob Marley though. Okay. Yeah.
T.K.
What was that dog doing the whole game?
Tasmelis
I don't know.
Odoo Advertiser
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J. Skeets
Just being in the back. I'm not sure.
Tasmelis
I'm not sure who's doing that reporting. Which NBA journalist is doing that reporting?
J. Skeets
What, asking the question to the dog?
Tasmelis
No, just finding out what the dog was doing.
T.K.
Yeah, what was that dog dude who was hanging with that dog? Drummond had an awesome game though. Yeah, he did 17 points, 12 boards, hit two threes. I thought a crazy attempt though.
J. Skeets
He took one late. Yeah.
T.K.
I mean, I understand you're two for three at that point, but in the corner, right, you're wide open for a reason.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
T.K.
They do not care. If you make 10 straight, you're going to get a wide open look. I think Maxi took a tough one as well. So Philadelphia kind of short circuited a little bit in the fourth quarter, but bring that dog with. Yeah, why not? If you're going to average a double double with a dog in attendance.
J. Skeets
Bob in attendance. His dog's name's Bob. That's great. Like weird human names for dogs sometimes.
Tasmelis
It's probably a two word dog, like you. He's never calling him just Bob, I imagine.
J. Skeets
Come here, Bob Marley.
Tasmelis
That was fun. Yeah, The Sixers are weird in that Joan Beat ain't playing those fourth quarters. So a lot of them.
J. Skeets
Well, he didn't play at all.
Tasmelis
Yeah, in that one. But sitting down in fourth quarters a lot of the time. Listen, they were able to beat the Raptors, who, as you said, got a good victory on Friday. I thought Scotty Barnes is looking great because he wasn't having a good night. But what happens to a star when they're not having a good night? They get somehow their footprint or their fingerprint on the game. And he was doing a great job of making those passes all over the place, setting guys up all over the place. He's had 11 blocks in his last four games. He is getting after it defensively, so he's doing what he can't. It was good to see that. It was good to see another Canadian, Andrew Nevhardt, come back, even though the Pacers lost both games. But at least he's back. And I just wanted to ask about those Sacramento Kings jerseys. You see the ones on Friday with the. The split down the middle, the vertical split. Purple on one side, black on the other. Then they got the checkerboard coming down the panel of their shorts. I can't get behind them.
J. Skeets
I mean, it's the least offensive thing about the Kings right now. If you've watched them play, not very good. Here's how bad they are. Michael Red, former NBA player. He's on Twitter. He's a great follow. Super positive guy. Great insights. He is now questioning what the hell is going on in Sacramento. He called them like a tough watch. That's like. That's the kiss of death, man. I mean, Michael Red. You've lost Michael Red on social media.
T.K.
It's a red alert.
J. Skeets
Yeah, but they are bad. He's not wrong. He is. The vibes are brutal in Sacramento. But yeah, why is he commenting?
Tasmelis
Why is Michael Red commenting on the Kings?
J. Skeets
Just because he loves hoops.
Tasmelis
He loves hoops.
J. Skeets
Yeah, he's that quote.
Tasmelis
He's a plotting world.
J. Skeets
I love basketball, but man, the Kings are a tough watch right now. End quote. Michael Redd Ichael Red underscore. That's the official one. It's bad. That's how bad it is. Anyway, we'll get to losers of the weekend. We're not even touching on the kinks. Not even worth our time.
T.K.
I'll give a quick winner of the weekend of mo gay.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
T.K.
217 and 7 with a couple of blocks in a win over the Lakers. Basically nobody played for the Hawks like Porzingis was out. Trey Young has been out. No. Jalen Johnson. So a bunch of College Park Skyhawks got a run against the Lakers team that, like, they rolled Luca out there.
J. Skeets
Yep.
T.K.
They had eight and out there, Luke had 22 in the first half. And then those guys got yanked midway through the third quarter and never came back in. Got to give some love to the Hawks sixth man section. You hear the ole, ole, ole chants all over the place. So they were going, mo gay, mo.
J. Skeets
Gay, mo gay, mo gay.
T.K.
That was pretty good.
J. Skeets
Good.
T.K.
Yeah. And he was having an awesome game, so it was echoing through the fortress all night long.
Tasmelis
Oh, that reverse layup was sexy. Or he was hanging in the air. That was nice.
T.K.
Scored like 11 straight in the first quarter. That was crazy.
Tasmelis
Yeah. Yeah. And I. I almost want to give a positive winner to JJ Redick on the other side, whose team got spanked. He was so mad post game. He was furious. We'll get to another coach who's the absolute opposite of that handling his team. But I like J. Redic post game. Just saying. I knew that we stunk in the first two minutes essentially without saying that. And he just couldn't answer a question. There were just two word answers. And he just wanted to get the heck out of that podium. So at least he is upset about it. Unlike some coaches, which we'll get to.
J. Skeets
All right. We'll take a quick break, hear from our sponsors. When we come back, NBA weekend losers.
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T.K.
I got Jalen Green as a loser of the weekend. Just got back from a hamstring injury. Played his first game for the Suns on Thursday night. Looked awesome. Yep, 29 points, 23 minutes on Saturday after playing just seven minutes in his second game with Phoenix, re aggravated the same right hamstring injury, drove to the hoop, looked pretty normal, came up limping and had to be helped off the court. Suns insider John Gambadoro has been reporting that he's going to miss four to six weeks and when you consider the way he got hurt this time, it makes sense that they're going to be cautious. He came back, what, like a couple of days early, looked awesome and then just got hurt right away. Sucks for a couple of reasons. First of all, the Suns have kind of turned it around. Went 1 and 4 in their first couple of games, were getting down by 20 every single night, but they've won four of their last five, including beating the Clippers in Phoenix and then in LA. But the other part, Jalen Green rarely misses time. Yeah, played 82 games the past two seasons, 76 the year prior to that. I think he was like 67 in his rookie year but usually is playing quite a bit. So for them to do the Kevin Durant trade and not really get to see what they even have in Jalen Green alongside Devin Booker I think is a big time bummer. The good stuff they did get Dylan Brooks back, which is well timed. Colin Gillespie, a taskmalist favorite, has been looking really good to start the season. Grayson Allen has been playing pretty well and shooting the ball well again, so I assume it'll be Royce o' Neill comes back into the starting lineup for for Jalen Green alongside Brooks Booker and Mark Williams. But just felt like the Suns were starting to get their team back together. They were going to have most of their guys healthy and then he goes out for what's going to be what seems like a significant period of time.
Tasmelis
Yeah, totally agree. They were getting it back together. Beating the Clippers two games in a row in a home to home. That's. That's something for a Phoenix Suns team. That was definitely one of those teams that people weren't excited about outside of Phoenix. And the people in Phoenix were saying, don't sleep on us. And then for them to come around like that and then lose one of their players to a similar injury to what he just had, it stinks. Now. Jordan Ott, their head coach, said there will be no excuses that people will step in. It is a, you know, short term, fairly easy part of their schedule here they got the Pels tonight, it's a winnable game. Then you got the Mavs, the Pacers and the Hawks, the Blazers. So, you know, they shouldn't lose all those games and people will step in, but it is. I was surprised to see Gambadoro with this report because there, there wasn't anything from the Suns but Gamdoro's that clicked in or that dialed in that he knows it's four to six weeks. That's all it is a long period of time. I say, yeah, short term, the schedule is okay, but four to six weeks is long and they're probably gonna, as you said, Trey pulled them out even, you know, as long as they possibly can this time.
J. Skeets
Hamstring injuries suck, man. Like you said, this play, you watched it, you're like, what? What happened? It's just because he re aggravated.
T.K.
Just pushes off.
J. Skeets
Yeah, exactly. And he grabs right at it. I mean there's no secret what it was. Everyone right away, he like what? He basically took himself off the floor immediately. Play continued. They got a shot up.
T.K.
They may have got a three pointer. Yeah, I think they did actually.
J. Skeets
Booker maybe square anyway, but then they're like foul. Like on the defensive end, like it's five on four. Somebody foul somebody. But yeah, this sucks because he looks so great too. Like we talked about it on Friday. We showed him a lot of love. It was the 1 game on Thursday night. So we sort of zeroed in on it. Talked a lot about Jalen Green, talked about the Suns looking scrappy here. You're right. Dylan Brooks is back. That's good. But be nice to see them all. Oh yeah, but it's going to be a while because now you have to now you got to really, really be cautious with it not to have this just happen again when he gets out there. So it'll be a while here. We probably, I guess, will we see him before the 2026 for the end of the new year? I guess it's possible. Four to six, he said.
T.K.
Yeah, sure. Maybe he's got to come back for Christmas time.
J. Skeets
That'd be nice.
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Tasmelis
Well, the Dallas Mavericks are definitely loser of the weekend. I think Nico Harrison is in danger of losing his job. I know they got a victory this weekend. They're one in one. But it is not pretty. They got spanked by Memphis on Friday. They were down 30 at some point. Then they made it just a double digit loss, but it was, it was a spanking. And then they lo. They beat the Washington Wizards.
J. Skeets
Barely.
Tasmelis
Yes, barely. They're throwing Brandon Williams out there as their closer point guard because they have such problems. No disrespect to Brandon Williams, but I think he's got to play more because d' Angelo Russell just ain't doing it right now. And this experiment of playing Cooper, flag of the point guard, it ain't working. But you got your own guys, your own legends in Dirk Nowitzki sitting there on Amazon saying, whoa, this team is, it's not pretty. They're playing side to side is what he said. They're not going towards the hoop whatsoever. They are the worst offense in the league. And I think there's just going to be more and more losses and I don't think it's coming from Jason Kidd. He was quoted as saying the boat isn't burning, so we're, we're fine. You know, he's just too calm. He ain't getting his team to play with any sort of force. Kyrie Irving ain't coming back anytime soon. They need desperate guard play. But he's not coming back till at the very least 2026 months in several months in to 2026, I imagine. I think Nico Harrison is in danger because yeah, sure, they can say, well, Anthony Davis has missed half the games thus far. And. And Derek lively has missed 70% of the games. We're doing math. And Dante Exum hasn't played. If we need some guard help. But they are the fourth highest in team salary. They're going to be fourth highest again next year. Patrick Dumont, they just bought this team from Mark Cuban wanting to have a winner. And so there has to be something that happens. And I mean you can look deep down gets under reporter under talked about. But they traded Quentin Grimes for Caleb Martin. This guy could be one of their best players. Quentin Grimes, Ballin for Philadelphia. They've made plenty, plenty of mistakes. And maybe it starts with Jason Kidd playing more point guards, but it's still not going well. It's a bad team to watch. Now they sit at three and seven. That's okay, I guess, if you want to make the excuse of injuries, but they're going to keep losing unless they get some guard help. And they should be making a move for one right now.
T.K.
Yeah, unfortunately it would be Nico Harrison as the guy doing the move that's.
Tasmelis
The real catch 22.
T.K.
But there's reporting from Mark Stein and Tim McMahon basically speculating that if things don't turn around quickly, Nico is going to be out of a job. Those guys are super well connected in Dallas. So I believe the smoke because the team doesn't look good. And most importantly, it feels like they are messing with Cooper Flag's development. It's only 10 games into his career, but he's clearly playing out of position and doesn't look like a superstar right away, which is what I think a lot of people, myself included, were kind of expecting out of Cooper the guy as a generational draft prospect. He went number one. This is a team that some thought was going to be challenging in the Western Conference period. I thought they could be near a playoff team and that looks pretty far fetched at this point. But there are people that were talking about him as one of the best teams in the Western Conference, which seems unbelievable. Cooper looks pretty ordinary to start his career. I think if he was averaging 20 points and six assists, nobody would care that they're losing games. But they're losing games and he isn't lighting the league on fire, which looks really bad for Nico Harrison. Small silver lining. It seems like Anthony Davis is back soon. He might play tonight. He almost played over the weekend. That definitely helps. But they traded Luka because they were concerned about him being able to play games and be on the court. They trade him for a guy that never plays.
J. Skeets
So silly.
Tasmelis
It's.
J. Skeets
And this is why they have to fire Nico Harrison, too. Because it's this whole. The Luca, like, hangover too, right? That black cloud hanging over the franchise that hasn't gone anywhere because it's not going to go anywhere if you continue to lose. It just like gives the fan base something more to focus on. Like, you messed this up. We were an NBA finalist team. What the hell were you thinking trading a guy that was not even in his prime yet a perennial MVP guy? Like, it's so silly. I mean, we need to go over it again. I saw Tom Ziller right this morning. Nico Harrison needs to find Najee Marshall a no show endorsement deal or something. Because Marshall's 30 points saved the game in a real weekend from hell for Harrison. So you're still giving loser of the weekend, but yeah, it could have been 0 and 2. They didn't get the one win. Najee Marshall. A big reason why.
Tasmelis
Barely.
J. Skeets
Brutal, man.
Tasmelis
It's tough. I don't know what the maneuver is from. It's not a. A new ownership, but it is fairly new. And if they are giving Nico Harrison just a leash here because the Patrick Dumont didn't come from a basketball background. Now, I've heard Mark Cuban continuously talk about that. Dumont is trying to get better on that side of things, but where does it. Where does it materialize? What. What happens? I mean, they are not a good basketball team. It is very poor. And in two and a half weeks, they're going into Los Angeles and playing Luka Doncic on Black Friday. And so right after Thanksgiving, that would be horrendous. The headlines, you know, you call it Black. Whatever. It's going to be an extremely dark cloud over this team if they lose to Luca, which they will.
J. Skeets
Because it's.
Tasmelis
Luka Doncic who is definitely spiteful. And so the question is, will Luca text Nico Harrison if he's fired? That's my question. I wonder if he's that spiteful.
T.K.
Oh, like a mean text.
Tasmelis
Yeah, like, hey, well, you know, it was a good run buddy or something, you know, like some sort of.
J. Skeets
He needs to crack a beer immediately after pour one out for Nico on the floor. Can't take his beers now from him. Yeah, it's bad. Okay, Dallas Mavericks. Anything else to add? I mean, you didn't even bring up the Klay Thompson of it all this time. You gave him worst of the week last year, right?
Tasmelis
Last week, right, Right. Yeah.
J. Skeets
Oh, man. I mean, he's going to be traded, isn't he? If anybody will take the contract, he's.
T.K.
Got A kind of a long contract.
J. Skeets
Oh yeah, he makes a lot of money for a guy.
T.K.
Well, honestly, Nico built a great team for Luka Doncic. Like he built a perfect team for Luka Doncic. You can tell because they went to the NBA finals and now they're trying to reorient it around an 18 year old power forward who's playing point guard.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
T.K.
Doesn't make sense.
J. Skeets
No, it doesn't. All right, loser of the weekend to the LA Clippers. Let's slip them in here. Suns held them off 114, 103 on Saturday, their second win over LA in three days. Harden did return after missing Thursday's loss for personal reasons. He racked up the assists on Saturday, but he shot 4:15 from the field in a lot of minutes, so he was rusty there with the shot. Clippers have now lost four in a row. They fall into three and six. Not much better than the Dallas Mavericks. And Kawhi is going to miss the next few games here due to his sprained right ankle. And the worst part about all this is like they just look like who some of us were concerned about and that's just being an old ass looking team. And their defense, which was awesome last year, I think they were top three in the league in defense. They are like bottom of the league now. It's completely flipped and it doesn't look good for LAC right now at all. Especially when you add the Kawhi news TK that he's going to miss some time, which isn't a surprise but just makes sense.
T.K.
Exactly. He missed time last year and they still played defense. They're 26th in defense right now because they give up a ton of three pointers. They're allowing the most in the league and teams are shooting 40% from three against the Clippers. They are so susceptible to drive and kick. They get beat off the dribble and then spray it out to the shooters. Sometimes it's a corner three. A lot of these are coming from above the break, which maybe if you're Ty Alu, you're like we're giving a above the break threes. Eventually teams will start missing. That's probably true. It's hard to shoot 40% in the league, so that probably comes down eventually. But what's not going to change is that they look like they don't have much athleticism. They don't look to have very much physicality either. So I don't know how they change that. Like Chris Dunn's playing, Derrick Jones Jr. Is playing. These are Guys who were important to them on the defensive end last year and just aren't having quite the same effect. Zubots is getting it going a little bit, which I think is good, but it does still feel like a ton of possessions are like Zubots post ups. Yeah, Brook Lopez post ups. That feels very dated to me as an offensive strategy. Harden has to carry them. He didn't shoot well like you're saying. He was setting guys up. He's their best playmaker like we talked about when they lost to the Suns the first time and he didn't play and they weren't able to score. But they're going to have to be better on the defensive end and take a little bit of pride right now. If they turn the ball over, it's a guaranteed two points for the opponent because they just can't get back in time.
Tasmelis
This Clippers team, like Jordan was saying, it'd be nice to have Kawhi in there, just to have some camaraderie going. What he did last year was missed the first few months of the season the same team was playing and then he came back in January and then played till the end of the season. Now this is different than last year where he's missing a chunk of games. Obviously their defense is just horrendous. Last year they had Kristan starting the entire season being that on the ball perimeter type of defender. Now they're, they're starting to go back to that along with Derrick Jones Jr. But yeah, they look ancient. Unfortunately they don't have that same, that same hunger on that side of things. We didn't mention the Mavericks are good on that side of the floor, but they're so bad that they can't accommodate for that. And last year the Clippers were pretty bad offensively too. It was just James Harden because Kawhi was out for a bunch of the season. But now it's like both sides. Last year they were third in defense. Now they don't have that anymore. So they look, they look old. They do, they do.
J. Skeets
They play old too. They're like the slowest team in the league. Like, they appear old. They play the Hawks tonight in the Intuit Dome. Then they have the Nuggets and then they go on a seven game road trip. So they got Dallas and Boston and Philly and Orlando and Charlotte, Cleveland, the Lakers. You said that they were going to be playing the Mavs. Well, they're playing the Clips too. So that's an in season tournament game. So it doesn't get easier here for the Clips like, it's so early, but we are like one eighth of the season done for a lot of these teams, you know, and you know, you're 3 and 6, 3 and 7 in Dallas. Dallas's case, like, there's so many good teams above. It's not going to be easy to claw your way back into some of these races.
Tasmelis
But yeah, and I do think the odd Kawhi playing him now at the beginning of the season, then getting injured is not good for them. We saw last year, for the first time in a while, he was able to start later on the season and get it going and. And start to turn it up a little bit and then play in the playoffs. Now he's out for a chunk of games. And yeah, they haven't developed who they are. They play so far into shot clocks that they. They start shooting extremely late into shot clocks and it's just kind of. It's slow and. Yeah, it just doesn't. Doesn't bleed into the other end either.
J. Skeets
Final loser of the weekend to the Minnesota Timberwolves NBA cup court. Gotta do it. They hosted the Jazz at the Target center on Friday night. First group stage game at home there. And they had some trees on this floor, but you wouldn't know it. I don't even. Can't even see the damn trees because look at this neon green. It is the focus extra wild looking on tv, you see the photos of people in person, it's bright, but man, on tv, that contrast.
Tasmelis
Whoa.
J. Skeets
I saw Brandon Beckford tweet the Timberwolves have absorbed the gamma radiation from the court and become basketball incredible Hulks because they played well. They played well on this wild green court. But a lot of people saying, that's Mountain Dew, bro.
T.K.
That's Mountain Dew, bro.
J. Skeets
Yeah. I know you're a gray cup court guy, so I assume you're not the biggest fan of this.
Tasmelis
I told you colors on the floor from baseline to baseline don't work. Obviously, the brighter, the worse. This is.
J. Skeets
All right.
T.K.
That's crazy.
Tasmelis
It is not there. Trees there, you said.
J. Skeets
Yeah, like they're like where all the people are standing. Like, it's like a tree design. You know, it's on the one side there, but you can't see them.
T.K.
Looks like they're floating. Like the players look floating, right?
J. Skeets
Yeah. It almost looks like an LED court.
Tasmelis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
Like all star.
T.K.
Was it? Did they have a green court?
J. Skeets
Yeah. Versus Sabrina for starry, wasn't it?
Tasmelis
Oh, starry base.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
T.K.
Is that a starry activation?
J. Skeets
There was a lot of that Color. I don't think we liked it on the LED cord either.
T.K.
But I like a bright court. But too bright. Too bright one.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tasmelis
Especially with the. The lighting in the arena. If we're gonna get all technical, you see these bright spots of the lights, like spotlights almost. And sometimes that doesn't work. It didn't even work on the. I would say the Orlando Magic. I was watching with my daughter and it was. It's a very light gray. She goes, that's not gray. That's almost blue. Purple. And it is kind of got this tint, especially with the lighting coming on it. It all depends on the lighting. And in that scenario, way too bright.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tasmelis
The lights don't help it. In Atlanta. A dim burgundy. How was it the burgundy court was there Saturday? Yep. Yeah. You didn't see the Friday court.
J. Skeets
The red was better than the yellow abomination from the year before for the Hawks, in my opinion.
T.K.
Yes.
J. Skeets
And I don't even love red courts. The one red I didn't like, did you see the Nuggets?
T.K.
It's like Papa Burgundy.
J. Skeets
Yeah. It's like Pipto Bismol. Pepto Bismol is what people are saying. Just not a good looking red, in my opinion. Anyway, they're trying things.
Tasmelis
They're trying things.
J. Skeets
Yeah. I wonder what Michael Redd thinks of the red courts. Loves it.
T.K.
Loves it for sure. You know what I do want to retire, though is the. The Kramer meme for NBA Calports.
J. Skeets
We've seen it three straight years for every color imaginable.
T.K.
Now it's a 30 year old show. There's been something brighter since then. Give me an Oppenheimer meme. The guy's watching the Trinity test something new. Please.
J. Skeets
Okay. That's a good idea.
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Tasmelis
It's a good meme.
J. Skeets
Pick em tonight. Tas. Where are we going? And will you get a victory?
Tasmelis
Who knows?
J. Skeets
You're owing five. This is amazing. I know.
Tasmelis
In five. And I was happy to take the Toronto Raptors. Excuse me? No, I'd say took the Hawks against the Raptors because I knew the Raptors were going to win on Friday. I knew that.
J. Skeets
Oh, no.
Tasmelis
Yeah, well, I said it. I said it on Friday too. I. I can skunk this, no problem. But tonight I'm getting a win because Milwaukee going into Dallas. There is no way I'm taking Dallas. There's no way. So I'm taking the Bucks. They got to win by two and a half. They got to win by three. Trey's in the same boat as me. Skates. You believe In Dallas.
J. Skeets
Something's going on here. This worked for me last time where a line smelt fishy and I got it right. I forget what the game was, but this one. What the hell's going on here?
T.K.
You think it should be bigger?
J. Skeets
Yeah, I know the Bucks are in a back to back. Give me a break.
T.K.
The question for me is, like, will they rest Giannis in game two of a back to back? That's maybe why the line is so small and. Yeah, and maybe Anthony Davis comes back tonight as well, so. Yeah, I thought this was a tough one to pick.
J. Skeets
Okay, well, I got Dallas and Tass is going for the over, and if he does well, you'll be paying it off by shaving a goatee. Goatee. November, everybody. Last place in the month of November in our pick and payoff will have to show up, I don't know, for a couple days, maybe a week with a goatee on the show now, like Trey. I mean, Trey's off to a great start, but it's a long month.
T.K.
It's a very long month.
J. Skeets
I mean, I'll be wild. This man has a huge beard to go. Straight goatee now. You're going to keep it like, Bagwell style.
T.K.
Yeah, I would keep it long on the bottom, for sure. I would just. I just would get rid of the jowls.
J. Skeets
Wow. Be cool.
T.K.
I mean, I don't know if it would make me look under younger or older because the thing I would leave would be just.
J. Skeets
Just gray.
Tasmelis
Just gray.
J. Skeets
Yeah. And I'm going to look super evil, I think.
T.K.
Yeah.
J. Skeets
So, yeah, picture that. I'll be evil Skeets for a week, and then Tas, you know, Tass will be here one day and then it'll grow back.
Tasmelis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
It's not too bad for me.
T.K.
No.
Tasmelis
Being looking out for you guys. I hope I lose because it's. I am far less scruffy than you guys. I tried to grow a beard during the pandemic and it was gross. Like a long one. You know, I'm just way too scruffy. I pulled out the manscaped and started trimming it back again because it's.
J. Skeets
It's gross. It's disgusting.
T.K.
Talking about the landscaper.
Tasmelis
So, yeah, I hope I lose for you guys. I hope I lose for you.
J. Skeets
Are you gonna try and grow in at least for the rest of this month, like your stash and the go part to then if you have to shave? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just for it to pop more on screen.
Tasmelis
Sure.
J. Skeets
Maybe we could dye it.
Tasmelis
Sure. This is. This Is the part of the. If you, if you do have to shave it like mine is, it's totally visible already. My jowls, they're totally visible. I trim, I trim it fairly often. But for you guys, you could, you could reveal some sunk, sunk ass jaws, you know?
T.K.
Totally. I got no idea what's going on.
J. Skeets
Yeah. Him especially.
Tasmelis
Yeah. So I'm fine losing for you guys. Fine losing. I might start to look like trying to protect us.
J. Skeets
Very much our jowls.
Tasmelis
You see Nick, nurses go dig. Nurse pulls out a goatee.
T.K.
Oh yeah, he does. He does.
Tasmelis
It's hilarious.
J. Skeets
Well, we said Aaron Neesmith has an immaculate goatee.
T.K.
He's got the evil look.
J. Skeets
Yeah, it looks evil. So that's what we're playing for. November's payoff in the pick em is the goatee. And look, you're owing 5. You're behind by a couple of games. But there's. It's November 10th. We got weeks to go here.
Tasmelis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
And we have seen many times where someone just gets on a heater or the opposite and can't pick right to save their lives.
Tasmelis
Well, I'll only be two games behind you after tonight.
J. Skeets
Oh, wow.
Tasmelis
Wow. Dallas ain't winning. I would be surprised if Yanni sits. I know it is a back to back because they lost yesterday. But even if he does, I'm taking the bucks supporting team versus that Mavericks.
J. Skeets
Team, that one on League Pass 8:30 Eastern tonight, our peacock game tonight, it's Wizards, Pistons, baby.
Tasmelis
Whoa.
J. Skeets
Isn't that weird? I mean, Pistons are red hot excited to see that. Keep it going. But against the Wizards, it's got to be their 1 nationally televised game, I would think. How many Wizards games could they have possibly have on the docket? And then we got Hawks Clippers on NBA TV tonight.
T.K.
It was like just yesterday Kyle Kuzma was a Washington wizard saying nobody wants to be that team losing to the Detroit Pistons.
J. Skeets
Right? You're right. And now here we are, Wizards, Pistons on the cock. Enjoy it tonight, everybody. We'll be back tomorrow. Special guest joining the guys. Should we tell them? Sure. Jason Concepcion. Ever heard of coming on no dunks live at 10am Eastern to talk about the NBA and I'm sure a whole bunch of other things. So join us at that time. Otherwise, enjoy those games tonight. We'll see you tomorrow. Clipper bros. You heard it here first.
T.K.
Have a great time. Turn up.
J. Skeets
Love you guys. Awesome.
Tasmelis
Thanks for joining us. And remember, not on the cock tonight. Lakers, Hornets. I'm looking forward to those jerseys. I didn't do the research. But the yellow and blue, ideally, it.
J. Skeets
Might be more of a green.
Tasmelis
That Hornet's court. Is it a blue? Is it a green? It all depends.
T.K.
You're right, though. It's yellow versus blue.
J. Skeets
Green.
Tasmelis
There we go. It's gonna look good.
J. Skeets
We'll talk about it tomorrow. Brace the day, people.
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J. Skeets
What a matchup we got, y'. All.
T.K.
This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat, everybody showing that school prize.
J. Skeets
A game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola.
Tasmelis
Ah.
T.K.
Crisp and refreshing.
J. Skeets
That's a game changer right there.
Tasmelis
Mmm.
T.K.
Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere, and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo, no matter the.
J. Skeets
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T.K.
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NBA Weekend Winners & Losers | Cade Sparks Another Pistons Win, Fox's Return, Mountain Dew Courts
Date: November 10, 2025
Hosts: J. Skeets, Tasmelis, Trey Kirby (TK), JD
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
This episode of No Dunks brings the classic Monday treatment: a full rundown of the NBA weekend’s biggest winners and losers. The hosts celebrate standout performances, analyze game-changing moments, and throw some playful shade at struggling teams and garish in-season tournament courts. They also pay tribute to basketball legend Lenny Wilkins and reflect on personal loss within the team. The show is filled with the usual No Dunks banter, deep hoops analysis, and a few laughs at the league’s quirks and oddities.
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Lenny Wilkins: The hosts pay tribute to the Hall-of-Famer, reflecting on his massive contributions as a player, coach, and calming NBA presence.
Personal Loss: TK shares the passing of his family dog, Yams, and the crew reminisces with heartfelt memories.
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The show wraps with a look ahead to Monday night’s NBA action, a check-in on the hosts’ pick’em bet challenges (with a "Goatee November" punishment at stake), and more jokes about league trends and style. Next episode will feature Jason Concepcion as a guest.
This episode is a must-listen for fans looking to catch up on NBA storylines, get a few laughs, and soak up the energy of early-season basketball—whether your team is a weekend winner or loser, or the owner of the world’s ugliest tournament court.