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Je Skeets
This is an iHeart podcast.
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Tas Melas
Guaranteed Human.
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Je Skeets
Good morning sweet world and welcome to the no Dunks podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Monday, November 24, 2025. I'm Je Skeets here in the classic factory and alongside me as always, Tas Melas.
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Tas Melas
I'm wearing a T shirt. You guys are way smarter than me. Oh, wearing long sleeve. I'm cold.
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Je Skeets
It's a little chilly in here. No doubt. Next to him it's my top shot, hot boy Trey Kirby Ayo Eyo. And over yonder making the magic happen, super producer jd.
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Tas Melas
Hello.
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Je Skeets
There he is. And here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Everybody in the stream team. Hit the like button. Subscribe Podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. On today's show we will share our NBA weekend winners and losers. A whole lot of basketball to run through. But first, LA Clippers guard Chris Paul is retiring after this season. His 21st NBA campaign surefire first ballot hall of Famer CP3 is a 12 time All Star. 11 time All NBA er. A 9 time All Defensive Team member. 0506 Rookie of the Year and of course a member of the NBA's 75th anniversary team. He also has two gold medals with team USA 082012 but CP3 at this point here TK is saying that's it for me. Here's my swan song and this will be the final year.
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TK
Yeah, I guess he hinted at it over the summer in some interviews saying I'll probably only play one more year. This year started hasn't been a great season for Chris Paul. So the time is now and he's going to go down in history as one of the great point guards of all time. Reached the absolute pinnacle of point guard play except for ever getting the championship, unfortunately for him. But you know, at worst he's like the sixth best point guard in NBA history. There are a few guys you definitely put ahead of him but you can have them up in the top five if you want. Everybody knows. Not my cup of tea, but undeniably one of the greats of all time.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, no doubt. I guess he makes the announcement before they play in Charlotte so all of his family can come because that's where he's from. He is definitely one of the best. So I start thinking of all the moments that didn't happen. Like the 18 Western Conference final he was on the Rockets. They're up 32 on the Golden State warriors and he's injured and he's not there for game six and seven when they're up 20 in the finals against the Milwaukee Bucks as part of the Phoenix Suns. I just start thinking about all the moments that he angered DeAndre Jordan and then angered DeAndre Ayton. I guess all the DeAndre's don't like him. There's so many moments, so many moments for him.
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Je Skeets
What about the ultimate what if?
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Tas Melas
Which one?
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Je Skeets
David Stern doesn't veto the trade to the Lakers. He probably has a championship or two. I'm just assuming that the Lakers would make it work.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got lots of moments. I mean he started every game when Victor Wembanyama started his rise last season. So he's got lots of stories. I'm sure that hall of Fame speech will be pretty decent. He'll put some some moments together. He's kind of keeps stuff a little close to the vest. Like we don't know a lot about the Clippers. Like there's a lot of infighting. You hear those little teeny tiny stories but hopefully he just lets it rip at the hall of Fame speech. Just let it go, man. It's a new world. Just do it.
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Je Skeets
He's the NBA's active leader in assists and steal. Second all time, of course, to John Stockton. I'm with you, TK Though. Whether you liked Chris Paul or didn't, he is going down as one of the greatest floor general point guards of all time. Maybe the last of his breed too, if we're being honest. Because the NBA started to lean into bigger playmakers. That was the first thing. Like, Chris Paul is like not even six feet.
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TK
He's little.
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Je Skeets
He's a small guy. So we get to this thing where there's bigger playmakers. And then the other part of the equation is point guards got to score now. Like, they got to be sort of lights out, attack and threes and put up 25. Like that's where we've gone in the league. And that really was never Chris Paul. I think he is sort of the last of a dying breed of just straight up floor general. And he made basically every team he went to better.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, there's no doubt, you know, the.
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Je Skeets
Hornets, where he's drafted, haven't had a lot of really success after he's last. The Clippers were the sorriest franchise in all of sports. Maybe made them respectable. Knocking on the door of obviously getting into, you know, some playoff success and stuff like that, or at least reaching the playoffs, for crying out loud. So he's just. He. He's like. I think Ziller put it like this. He's like the ultimate winner with never having won a title because he won a lot of games and helped a lot of franchises just get better. And guys, like you said, the impact on sga, just being with the Thunder for one year, maybe Wemby, we see that payoff. So, yeah, it's. He just could never get over the hump and get. And get the ring. I don't think it's happening this year.
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Tas Melas
Well, I would.
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TK
Quite the comeback from the Clippers if they pull it off.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, Yeah. I do ask how much of the timing of this announcement is for the other teams who may be good and maybe just want somebody off the bench as a old vet, just to help out a little bit, just to be.
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Je Skeets
Around, just to get him a ring.
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Tas Melas
Look at. Look at me play. Yeah, exactly. Because, you know, you can say if I go to, let's say the Minnesota Timberwolves and I can come off the bench there, everybody's gonna play for me. It's my retirement year, so I'll give everybody a little bit more motivation in that regard. I wonder. It's probably just his last year. It's probably not because he needs to go somewhere. It's probably because he's literally playing in Charlotte where a lot of his family's from. The night before. He literally makes it that day. Yeah. I guess it has to be that. Yeah.
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TK
I mean, if he wanted to ring Chase, he really could have done it over the summer. He signed for a tiny, tiny contract. He went to the place where he's most associated with the Clippers, to retire with the Clippers. I do believe he also can't go to any team that has a number three because he's only one number three throughout his entire career. You don't see that with a lot of these guys that play for a lot of franchises a lot of seasons. But you go to his basketball reference. He wore three for the Hornets in three different cities. Pretty impressive.
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Je Skeets
Geez. Yeah.
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TK
Wait, two different cities.
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Je Skeets
Charlotte and New Orleans.
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TK
No. North Carolina. Yeah. Did he play in Charlotte? He never played.
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Je Skeets
No.
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TK
New Orleans and Oklahoma City.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's a few.
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Je Skeets
Was he number three for Team usa? What did he wear? Let the fact check that one.
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TK
I don't know. The only time you were in much on Team usa.
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Tas Melas
No, no, I do not. That's not his. It's not his thing. Like, you don't think of him.
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TK
Number 13.
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Je Skeets
There you go.
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Tas Melas
Anyways, we will see if the Clippers can somehow find their way. But if there is another team out there, peck him out. Just help us out on the bench a little bit. I bring up the Timberwolves because if there is one who needs a little bit of guard play off the bench, it would be them. But I doubt he's traded, period. I mean, he signed there. Yeah, that's my old team. But also he thought they were going to win.
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TK
Well, more than that, I think it's a combo. I'm retiring as a Clipper slash ring chase.
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Tas Melas
Yeah. But no good right now.
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TK
Yeah, it ain't working so far.
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Je Skeets
No. Two more thoughts. Is Chris Paul the greatest player listed six feet and under to ever play in the NBA? And I'll give you the only other guys that are probably on the list. It's Alan Iverson, Calvin Murphy. And then it's like, you know, then you sort of maybe go a level down. Tim Hardaway, Kyle Lowry, Mark Price, Kemba Walker. Because a lot of these guys, the small guys, they're 6:1. At least they're listed. Stockton, Isaiah Thomas, Cousy Lenny Wilkins, Mo cheeks. Like a lot of them are not six and under. Now I know that's all fudge. They're all small, they're all under six feet. But it's very possible it's really Chris Paul or Iverson. I think it's. And I think overall totality of a career, I think it's Chris Paul. Even though same with Iverson, he never got a ring either.
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TK
Got an MVP though.
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Je Skeets
He did. He did. My other question was if the Naismith Basketball Memorial. Excuse me, The Naismith Memorial Basketball hall of Fame was like baseball and players had to select which team they wanted to represent in the hall, which jersey would Chris Paul go in? As it's between two teams, it's between the Hornets and the Clippers. He played for a lot of teams after that, but it's pretty wild when you look at their stats over the six years. I'm not counting like the him going back to LA here, but six years with the Hornets, he averaged 18.7 points per game, 9.9 assists, 4.6 rebounds, 2.4 steals, shot 47% with the Clippers that six year stint, 18.8 points per game, 9.9 Assists per game, 4.1 rebounds, 2.3 steals, shot 47.4%. They're near identical. Has a lot of accolades with both teams. Which one do you think or will you remember the most of Chris Paul? If again, if he went in as.
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Tas Melas
A jersey, that's a good one. There's no doubt I remember him as a Clipper. That being said, I don't know. It's all how he takes it because he was ascending when he was young and he was second in MVP voting. He was really, really close with the member of New Orleans and that was sort of a different part of his career. And they took the spurs to game seven of the second round. I remember as a Clipper.
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Je Skeets
Okay.
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Tas Melas
But maybe his heart remembers him as a. A New Orleans. Okay. Seer or whatever you call it.
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TK
It's Clippers for sure.
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Tas Melas
Yeah.
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TK
I don't even think the Hornets factors into the discussion. He was one of the premier players in the NBA playing with the Lob City Clippers, a team that had a lot of buzz that was really good and just fell short in the playoffs time and time again. I think you think of him as a Clipper and maybe even a Rocket before you think of him as a Hornet.
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Je Skeets
Really?
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TK
Yeah. He was closest to winning a championship with the Rockets.
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Je Skeets
He was. But he won rookie of the Year with the Hornets. Of course, first year, four time All Star, three time all NBA, made three all defensive teams, finished top five in MVP voting twice. Like you said, runner up in what, his third season in the league. But Clippers, that first stint, 2011 to 2017, five time All Star, five time All NBA, six all defensive first team selections. And he also finished top five in MVP voting twice, not runner up. But he was, you know, sort of at the bottom of the ballot there in terms of the top five. So, yeah, I'm with you, Clippers, but I think there's a small case for New Orleans. And yeah, the Rockets, man, he was close. They were close. They just went over 27 in a very important game from deep.
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TK
They were the second best team in the league, but they were playing against the 73 win Warriors Team A lot of the time, so that was a problem.
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Tas Melas
Yeah. And then I tend to not remember him as a Phoenix sun, in all honesty, but he was on that team. Obviously. He's starting, goes to the finals. He was super close. They're up to zip, but it's different. Yeah, the Houston one was even a shorter state stint than his Phoenix run. His Phoenix was three years, but just later. It's just later.
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Je Skeets
Chris Paul and Trey started this all off with like, where do you have Chris Paul as the greatest point guard of all time despite never getting a ring? You said there's some obvious ones ahead of him.
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TK
Magic for sure.
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Je Skeets
Yep.
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TK
Curry for sure.
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Je Skeets
Yep.
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TK
Oscar Robinson for sure. Isaiah Thomas for sure.
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Je Skeets
That's four.
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TK
John Stockton, I would say, for sure. He was Chris Paul before Chris Paul went to the finals twice and still has all the records that Chris Paul is second in. So you got to put him there. For me. Chris Paul would be number six in the range with Jason Kidd or Steve Nash. Like, take your pick. Kidd won a championship. I think he's become underrated as a player over time. Steve Nash, two MVPs never won a championship. So pick your poison between Chris Paul, Jason Kidd, Steve Nash.
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Je Skeets
Who you picking?
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Tas Melas
Or you don't throw Steph in that conversation.
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TK
No, I had a number two.
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Tas Melas
Oh, my bad, my bad.
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TK
Maybe number one if you want to make the argument over Matthew.
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Je Skeets
It's so funny, I never even think of Steph Curry as a point.
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TK
Right.
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Je Skeets
But yeah, that's a whole other conversation.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, that's probably what happened in my head. I'm like, you're not putting him in the same. Because people don't. And I understand that. Yeah, he's in that group. Um, yeah, it's, it's Him, Nash, kid in that. In that exact.
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Je Skeets
Is right.
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Tas Melas
Yeah.
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Je Skeets
And I think, do. I think people do include Stockton sort of maybe with that group as well. I think Chris Paul's peak was way better than John Stockton's.
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TK
Maybe.
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Je Skeets
So there's that if you want. If you want to just lean into the peak like we talked about and maybe runner up and MVP and stuff like that. It's close. He's a surefire hall, hall of Famer, first ballot and. And now he's hanging it up. So I guess will people start giving him presents now and gifts when he visits said city for the only time left in his career?
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Tas Melas
Gotta do a video.
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Je Skeets
Gotta do a video.
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TK
Gotta do a video.
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Je Skeets
I think there'll be a lot of framed things handed to him. He also played for like a quarter of the teams, so they got stuff and they got packed video packages to show. We'll find out, I guess because we're going to get a little bit of Chris Paul. Goodbye tour here. Let's get to some NBA weekend winners and losers. Tk, you start us off. Winners.
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TK
Hey, that's our Chris Paul team.
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Je Skeets
Yeah.
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TK
Phoenix Suns.
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Je Skeets
There we go.
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TK
Set on Friday. Suns are one of the biggest surprises of the year to me. But at that time, they only had one win against the winning team. Over the weekend they got two, including one of the craziest wins of the season on Friday against the Timberwolves when they came back from eight points down with 51 seconds left to beat Minnesota. Started with a Royce O' Neal putback. Cuts the lead to six. Then a nonchalant turnover by Anthony Edwards. He thought this game was over. Just chucks it in. Easy steal. Turns into a three pointer for Jordan Goodwin, which cuts the lead to three. On the next offensive possession for Minnesota, Julius Randle drives the lane. Stripped by Goodwin. Takes it coast to coast for the layup. Now it's a one point game. Inbound the ball to Julius Randle. Instant panic. Turnover for this guy. But the Suns turn the ball over immediately, too, with Dylan Brooks just blasting Julius Randle in the back. Just pushes him down. Looks like maybe the game was going to be over. Then Minnesota gets the ball into Anthony Edwards. He goes to the free throw line. Misses two free throws. Suns grab the offense or grab the board. They call a timeout. Inbound to Colin Gillespie. Quick pick. He attacks Dante Divincenzo. It's a tough runner with about six seconds left to give the Suns the lead. Ball into Anthony Edwards. They double team him. Kicks it over to Randall Clankaruski from Three pointer. It's not often you see a comeback that fits neatly into a YouTube short. This is the first time in 3,000 plus games a team had pulled off a comeback from eight points down with a minute remaining. That's not super surprising. But you also factor in Devin Booker was fouled out for this entire sequence. Jalen Green wasn't playing. Dylan Brooks fouled out on that offensive foul after the steal. Crazy, crazy comeback for the Suns afterwards. Brooks was pretty happy to call out Julius Randle for a couple of turnovers and a missed three down the stretch. These guys are beefing. Suns also followed this up with a win on Sunday against the Spurs. They beat San Antonio. No Wemby, no Castle, but a big second half for Phoenix. 25 points for Dylan Brooks. This guy's been awesome so far for the Suns. He ups the compete level, which I think is the main thing he brings. But he's averaging 21 points a game game. I think he's like 25 per game over his last five games. That's something they've needed in a big time way with Jalen Green being on the bench for the majority of this season with injuries. Booker looks good, he's doing his thing. But they need somebody else who can score and it's been Dylan Brooks and it's been Tass's guy, Colin Gillespie, who is legitimately awesome right now. He's the new T.J. mcConnell because he is a white guy and he plays very similar. Yeah. So the Suns, awesome weekend for them. They're actually putting some wins together against good teams. You'll have to see it.
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Tas Melas
Yeah. Watching Colin Glaspie can't help but think about TJ McConnell as a white guy, but also where he tries to get to in the mid range and find space and gets the shot up. It is a lot like T.J. mcConnell. I was having a little bit of Chris Paul flashes as well. I mean that's what the same. They shoot from the same spots. But Colin Gillespie here played every fourth quarter minute in this game. He was needed. Was Devin Booker out and that game winner? You know, it wasn't a buzzer beater but it was a game winner. It was controlled stops on one foot. Didn't think Colin Gillespie had that in his game. Even though last year he was part of a 23 point comeback with Kevin Durant on the Phoenix Suns and their chest bumping. He came through. He had 10 points in that fourth quarter. He does the small things. You can't help but think of TJ McConnell as just that. Little guy. Is he listed at 6 foot and under right there. He's close. He's close. He. He helps, man, that team. Obviously overachieving and Dylan Brooks is a huge part of that.
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Je Skeets
Oh yeah, and that was a big cup win too against the Wolves on Friday night because The Suns are 2 and oh, the Thunder are 20 in that west group A. So that was the Wolves first loss. They've played three games. So they're 2 and 1. The Thunder and Suns, if they both win on Wednesday, that's going to set up a pretty epic showdown on Friday night with the group on the line. Because next week, or really I should say this week, there's a whole lot of cup games here this week as we start and figure out who's going to the knockout stage. So yeah, the Suns, man, they play hard. It's like night and day difference from last year, like the bad vibes with that team to this year and a lot of it's like the new additions that they've brought in.
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TK
For sure, Dylan Brooks is a good vibes guy. Not if you're playing against him.
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Je Skeets
No.
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TK
Maybe it wears on you eventually. That's what happened in Memphis for sure. I think that didn't happen in Houston. He was a nice fit with Ime Udoka. Really helped turn the Rockets around. Same thing he did with the Grizzlies. He raises your compete level and he makes you care.
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Je Skeets
He gives a shit.
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TK
Exactly. And so now you got Colin Gillespie being compared to Dylan Brooks. I think they call him Villain junior And then he's like, actually Jordan Goodwin is a lot like Devin or Dylan Brooks as well. So they're just gonna compare every single guy to Dylan Brooks.
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Je Skeets
A team of Dylan Brooks.
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TK
Oh, team Dylan Brooks.
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Tas Melas
Wow.
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TK
That's a, that's a scary team to imagine, but pretty impressive. And you know, two and oh, in Devin Booker's new shoes. And they got this kid eating popcorn. They brought him to the game and they won for him as well. They got the orange floor. Things are perfect in theater.
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Je Skeets
What's his name? Spencer. Is that his name?
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TK
I love with an S. Yeah. Sterling.
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Je Skeets
Sterling. I think it's Sterling. Yeah.
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TK
He had like. He had a grown man's name.
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Je Skeets
Oh, yeah.
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TK
And a grown man reaction on the jump. This kid was awesome.
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Je Skeets
Pretty adorable.
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Tas Melas
Yeah.
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TK
Keep bringing him back. Why not?
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Tas Melas
Winks at the, the camera. He's awesome. Yeah, he's. He's got it all. Yeah. I don't know where Dylan Brook's moment of realization that he can be a really good basketball player. Came like was it when Memphis said we're cutting you or you're not coming back? Was it just. Did it click or was it just playing under email? Udoka. But the guy looks totally different. I don't know if it was the Udoka connection, but here he is, man. He can, he'll score and.
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Je Skeets
And he's efficient. Especially with Canada basketball. Yeah, he had some monster games.
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Tas Melas
Yeah.
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Je Skeets
For Canada basketball as a scorer. As a go to guy.
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TK
He beat Team USA once in the tournament. That doesn't matter, But I remember seeing.
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Je Skeets
30 plus in that game.
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TK
Yeah, he's going to get in a fight tonight, guaranteed.
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Je Skeets
You think so?
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TK
They're playing the Rockets. That's a team that loves to mix it up. It's his old team. You know he's going to be. John.
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Je Skeets
Yeah, you'll probably be tossed.
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TK
Yeah. I don't know what the FanDuel odds are on Dylan Brooks getting at least one technical or flagrant one, but it's got to be like minus 15,000 probably.
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Tas Melas
It's a good bet.
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Je Skeets
All right, the Suns get us started here. Who do you have for a winner of the weekend?
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Tas Melas
Let's go with the Miami Heat because they won two games this weekend. They've won four straight. They beat the Bulls on Friday. They're the top two paces in the NBA, so you get ready for that game. You think, all right, here come the points. And they did come and. But it was close after the first quarter, and then the Heat defense got going and their offense just kept going. They scored 143 points on the Bulls and no one exceeded 20 points on their roster. Everybody doing it by committee. That eight guys in double digits. Nine players with nine or more. Pele Larson is the connector on that team. With Andrew Wiggins down, he was the guy just setting up. Here you go, Norm. Here you go. Khalil Ware. Here you go. Drew Smith. Pelly Larson. It got bad for the Bulls. He even threw down a windmill. I didn't know Pelly Larson could do that, but he threw one down. They win 143 points. Then they go on to face. Yeah, close game.
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TK
Close game.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, it got bad.
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Je Skeets
Got to run up the score.
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TK
You got to.
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Je Skeets
Those are cut point differentials.
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Tas Melas
How do we like the Bulls cup court?
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TK
Boring. Yeah, sorry. I'm not a great guy.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, for courts we see.
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TK
We see them every night, so it's not special.
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Je Skeets
They didn't. They didn't work hard on that court, I'll tell you that.
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TK
Yeah, they did not work hard. They tuned to losers of the weekend.
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Tas Melas
It's almost veering white. It's so light gray. It's like.
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TK
It's very light.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, super light. Anyway, then they go beat the Philadelphia 76ers in a. A game between two teams. We're all wondering which tier are they in in the Eastern Conference. And they looked awesome. Norm was the guy 32 points. A Jaime Hawkez coming off the bench. Different guy this year. In year number three for him, you don't have to shoot threes. A lot of the. Hey, get downhill, man. And then, you know, do. Do what you have to do to turn. Spin, get into it. He's got a nice D cell going on. 22 points for him. And Khalil Warehead, 20. So a little bit more of a, you know, a hierarchy in that game as opposed to the Bulls game. So they. They beat the Suns. Excuse me. The Sixers was an impressive win, and now they get their best player from last year coming Back tonight. Tyler Hero is officially back tonight, making his debut. So now it's a. It's like a data collection time for the Miami Heat. Like, what do we have here? Let's figure this out because there's all the talk of the Miami Heat, you know, maybe going to get a superstar like a John Morant or there's been a. A little lamello ball dabble or somebody like in that realm because they have so many of these guys, as I mentioned, that are good, but they don't have a. An incredible offense. There's. They're just middle of the pack offensively. They do need a guy who can create. So they're going to see what they have with Tyler Hero and then they'll see if they have to, because they can, with all the. The elements that they have, they can make a trade for a superstar. So we will see. This is a fun era for the Miami Heat.
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Je Skeets
I think their superstar right now, though is Norman Powell. It's amazing. I don't think a lot of people expected this after a great year of last year with the Eclipse. Like, what did he average, like, 22 points per game? He was like sort of All Star consideration at the time last year. We thought, okay, that was just a. That's an outlier. Like, what a year. He shot the hell out of the ball and it did cool off as the season went on. He's even better this year. He's averaging 25 points per game. His shooting splits are nuts right now. 50 from the floor. Exactly. He's hit half of his shots. 46 from deep. Incredible. 88 at the line. So he's flirting with a 50, 40, 90 with a higher, you know, usage because they've had to ask him to do more because Hero's been out and Wiggins is now out and all that he's going to make. He deserves to make his first All Star team. And then we need to check, like, what's the oldest a guy's been to make his first ever All Star game. Like Norm's 32 and a half. I assume he's on a short list of guys to make their first one. We'll have to do some checking on that. But a deserving spot at least. And the heater? Yeah, they're. They're. They're really fun to watch because of the pace they play. And I'm glad you brought up Hawkes, too. That guy's spinning left and right, man.
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TK
Yeah, I couldn't believe he's only shooting like 20% from 3, but he just scores inside all the time. You can tell he learned from Jimmy Butler. The heat of hit on like three things this year. First and foremost, every NBA player is good at one on one. Like every NBA player for the majority of majority of guys, you know, there's some big dudes, there are some like three point specialists who maybe aren't one on one players, but everybody else can get a bucket if they're playing one on one. So they just move the ball until somebody has a good matchup and let them go to work. Yeah, yeah. It's like Hawkes was just too big for all of the 76ers guards. Cause they play a lot of smaller guys for the most part. So it's just taking them inside. Bump, bump, spin, shoot over the top. The other thing, they have a lot of togetherness because everybody gets the ball, everybody runs. So they're able to play at the fastest pace in the league. And because everybody runs, because everybody gets a chance to touch the ball, they all play defense that's hard to do, run and also play defense. They've got eight guys averaging in double digits, including Pella Larson. Unbelievable to me. And then the third thing is that Bam Adebayo is going to be the defensive player of the year in the Eastern Conference. Like Wemby, if he gets to enough games, will be the guy. In the West. If he doesn't, Chet Holmgren is the guy. But in the east it's Bam when he plays the heat. Defense is really, really good. So they're good on defense and good enough on offense.
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Tas Melas
Yeah. And he's Bam is continues to be a glue guy for their team. It continues to be that guy that not a lot of people talk about because he isn't a, an offensive superstar, but he's the guy that holds it all together defensively. But you're right. On offense they play a lot of isolation and they say we don't need pick and rolls. Just everybody go at your guy and keep moving that thing and keep cycling it. And people make fun of their offense that they demonstrated on and Amazon prime when Bam Adebayou and Norm Powell came out there to show their their offensive sets. Because it's just penetrate kick, penetrate kick, penetrate kick. But it will change once Tyler here comes back a little bit. And if they go and get a superstar, I think they are willing to change who they are. And they got Eric Spoelstra, so I think they're willing to change it and Spoelstra will do that. So it's a fun team. To watch.
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Je Skeets
Miami is also in great position here to make the cup knockout stage with a win over Milwaukee on Wednesday. They gotta get that. Obviously, no Giannis for the Bucks. So if they get. They're in a good spot, because even if the Knicks beat Charlotte and then they beat the Bucks as well on Friday, thus winning the group, the Knicks would. The Heat have a very, very nice cushion in the scoring margin for a wild card run. And that was a part of that Friday night game against the Bulls. You run it up, man. We get some weird outcomes in these cup games. Those early ones, especially where you're like, oh, yeah, we're up, we're up. We won by 20. Well, keep going. Keep playing your guys, because we might need the plus 30, the plus 40, whatever it is, to maybe get a wild card, especially to advance. So they're in a good spot to be a wild card team.
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Tas Melas
I hope Norm makes the All Star team. And it feels like last year, the All Star reserve coaches, I mean, the coaches who vote for the All Star reserves were voting for Norm Powell. It felt like it. I don't know the actual outcome of the votes because we don't get that, but it felt like they were saying, okay, this guy has been really good. They ended up selecting Harden.
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Je Skeets
Harden.
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Tas Melas
Is it different in the Eastern Conference?
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TK
I think the NBA has ruined talking about All Stars on podcasts because how can you possibly say a guy is an All Star when we don't even know how they're going to pick the teams? Is Norm Powell one of the best 16American players from the Eastern Conference? Right. Like, you have to factor in two separate criteria before you even get to the All Star status.
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Je Skeets
Right, right, right, right. It is very confusing.
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Tas Melas
Yeah.
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Je Skeets
Is Norm going to play for the international team? Plays for Jamaica?
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Tas Melas
I mean, yeah, he wants to be part of Jamaica even harder than he's.
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TK
Got to get one of eight.
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Je Skeets
He needs to be, hey, be American, man. You got to come out like Hulk Hogan or something for these games.
- [30:13]
Tas Melas
I think the. The coach is here.
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Je Skeets
Jim Duggan.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, why not? You can pull it off, man. Does Bam like wrestling? No, it's not him. I don't know. I just think if you want to come out like a wrestler, I mean, they can. They can start a campaign for him. He can be a wrestler. Like, to get an All Star campaign.
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Je Skeets
Well, yeah, I'm saying Norm's got to lean into his American roots is what I'm saying. I think he's gonna have a better chance making the American version of this st. All Star game.
- [30:39]
Tas Melas
Yeah.
- [30:39]
Je Skeets
Than the international squad.
- [30:40]
Tas Melas
I think the guy, the. The coaches who end up getting the ballots after the starters are selected, they don't care where a guy's from. They're just. They just say, who are the top seven guys in each conference. In each conference. That's all they're going to do. And they don't know. They don't know that.
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Je Skeets
That's what.
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TK
That's what I'm saying. They've ruined talking about it because we have no idea how this is going to possibly work out or which teams they will even be sorted on. Norm Pal is the perfect candidate here. Like, he could go on either team.
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Je Skeets
Well, I think that's why they're gonna love him. You're like, it doesn't matter. We can use them both. It's perfect.
- [31:12]
TK
That's so crazy. It's so weird. That's why all NBA matters a lot more. But guess what? There's a regulation on that, too. You have to play enough games.
- [31:19]
Je Skeets
That's right.
- [31:19]
TK
You're ruining our awards talk. Think of the podcasters, please.
- [31:23]
Je Skeets
Come on, Silver. All right, good stuff. So two hot teams. Literally. Suns, heat. We got more teams to talk about here. My winner of the weekend. I'm gonna give it to Jaden Ivey and the Pistons. Saturday marked Jaden Ivey's first game of action since January 1st. It's been a long time. His first real NBA minutes since breaking his fibula over ten and a half months ago. Now, he was cleared for training camp, some might remember, but then he had a setback with his knee, so he under underwent surgery for that. He had discomfort in his right knee. They said it wasn't related or anything like that. But he's back. Limited minutes, 15 minutes off the bench. Thought he looked okay, though. Yeah, 10 points. Hit a three on the wing, Scored a couple buckets in transition, hit a nice baseline jumper. Again, not a lot of time out there, but the Pistons didn't miss a beat. They took care of the Bucks. 129, 116. Their 12th consecutive victory. How many seasons ago was it when they were setting the all time record in losing consecutive games of 28? Two years ago. Three years ago.
- [32:24]
Tas Melas
Yeah. Two.
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Je Skeets
Crazy. Now they're winning 12 straight and Ivy's back and. And they can make it 13 tonight against Indiana. And if they do, that would match the Pistons franchise record for their longest winning streak. They won 13 straight in 89, 90. They won 13 straight in 03 04. Both those teams went on to win the title. So this is Huge if they get number 13 tonight. So we'll see. But man, they have this guy that was really good before the injury, right. He was averaging 174 and 4 and he was hitting his threes and he had a good percentage overall. Ivey's back here and it's going to get really tough because there's like 12 guys that could play on this team. I brought this up last week. Bickerstaff, tough job. With Ivy and Tobias Harris back in the mix, you could convince me they have 12 solid players. They're starters. Cade Asar Thompson, Duncan Robinson, I assume is going to continue to start because help space the floor when you're running pick and roll with Kaden Duran, Tobias Harris, Jalen Duran. Then you got Ivy Jenkins has to play.
- [33:20]
TK
You're going to have to pry Danis Jenkins minutes from his cold dead hair.
- [33:24]
Je Skeets
That's right. Karris Levert. You got Ron Hul in the second you got Javante Green, who's been good and then your bigs, Beast Stew and Paul Reed. That's 12 guys. I don't, you know, I'm not even including the. The Lake man himself. I think he gets bounced. The Lake man. I should have had some threes. I know he's been good too. J has been really good. But point a lot of guys here to play, so we'll see what bigger step does.
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Tas Melas
A lot of guys to play and potentially a lot of guys to trade. And I know, I know this consolidate the weird All Star format does limit some podcasters and how they talk about the All Star Game, but all of these teams that have a whole glut of players to trade allows us to talk about trades plenty. Especially because you know it is trade season and free agency season ain't going to be as sexy. So we can talk lots about the Pistons who resemble a little bit like the Rockets of the east in that they need another score. Everybody's talking about another score and this could be the team that puts a package together so they could put a.
- [34:25]
Je Skeets
Party together with a lot, with the way a lot of these guys are playing and obviously draft picks and yeah, is it Lowry, Markkanen? Is it Anthony Davis? Is it another name that they want to even do? But right now you don't want to like, you don't want to think of even thinking of doing that, being 14 and two and playing the way you are.
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Tas Melas
You got to get the longest Piston streak first, then we can talk. But then they'll talk about it, I guess. But cool for Ivy was the same Guy who took him out last year and injured him was Cole Anthony. Was playing against him, playing against him again. I went back and watched that injury. I, I think he was, I think you. I mean that he wasn't sure if he was okay with what Cole Anthony came up to the, the stretcher and gave him a little pat. I don't know if he liked that, but he threw it like if he was cool with it. You know, sometimes stuff happens. You get a stretch or tap, everything's cool. But he was angry anyway. What looked like could be a years long injury or just make, you know, take him out of who he was as a basketball player. He looks a lot like him now. So yeah, great turnover.
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Je Skeets
He looked pretty good, I thought for his first game in a very long time out there on a good team and didn't disrupt anything is a key part too.
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TK
Still fast.
- [35:39]
Tas Melas
Very fast.
- [35:40]
TK
That helps. Yeah, I mean a ton.
- [35:42]
Je Skeets
Exactly. Yeah. A couple in transition for sure. All right, let's do quickly. Another round of winners here. Tk, who you got?
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TK
I got Russell Westbrook as a winner. Almost single handedly snapped the Kings eight game losing streak Saturday against Denver in the fourth quarter. Russ went for 15 points on 6 of 7 shooting. Hit a couple of threes, had a couple assists. Even ripped a board out of Nikola Yoko's hands and threw it off his nuts. Really impressive. Went shot for shot basically with Jokic in the fourth quarter. Jokic had 19 and was doing his best to get the Nuggets back into the game after they blew a big time lead against the kings. DeRozan was helpful. I fought in this one as well. Hit a couple of big buckets late for Sacramento, made some free throws, but Russ finished with 21 points, six boards, 11 assists. The ball was really moving for the Kings and this had to have felt good for him because the last time they played, they were talking to him in the locker room after the game, asking why he didn't go back to the Nuggets even though he had a player option. Could have easily signed it and went back to Denver where he had a decent season. And Westbrook said, the truth is that they didn't want me back. It ain't up to me. God always has a plan. Be patient. Not up to me. They don't want me. That's okay, somebody else does. They said, yeah, but you had a player option. You could have just went back. He's like, I don't want to go somewhere I'm not wanting.
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Je Skeets
Right, right.
- [36:57]
TK
Been there, Russ.
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Je Skeets
Been there for sure.
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TK
Also a great clip of Westbrook stalking Rocky, the mascot in this game, like late after he hit that one. One foot, like step back almost Dirk like shot. I think he even went off the glass. Westbrook and Rocky, yeah, have like a historic beef dating back to his Thunder days where Rocky was doing his over the head chuck, a three pointer. Westbrook jumps up and grabs the ball.
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Je Skeets
Before it goes through. I remember.
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TK
Absolute creep. So he's like walk. Walking right behind Rocky on the sidelines. And then Rocky just takes off, scared. He didn't know what to do. He got spooked by Russell Westbrook. So big time win for the Kings. You know, they needed to get a win. Sabonis is out right now. They got Keegan Murray back. So that's like, that's why you have Russell Westbrook. He can win you a random regular season game when you got nobody out on the court and you shouldn't win. They shouldn't have beat the Nuggets. They were down by 13, I think, in the third quarter. Went on a massive run, mostly with Westbrook taking and making open threes. Or they're giving him a ton of space and he just goes straight at you and hits a layup.
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Je Skeets
Yep. And now we'll just probably not talk about the Kings until they trade their guys. That's right. Maybe, Unfortunately. But yeah, 4 and 13 after the W. But it was. It was all Westbrook. They don't. There's no way they win that game without Westbrook.
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TK
No way.
- [38:22]
Tas Melas
No way.
- [38:23]
Je Skeets
So got a little revenge. The Russell Westbrook revenge game, which he can also do for about half the.
- [38:28]
Tas Melas
League.
- [38:30]
Je Skeets
But still, that's how he operates.
- [38:32]
Tas Melas
It's good to see Keegan Murray back for the Sacramento Kings. That is all. They needed him. They needed him. They needed him.
- [38:40]
TK
They need precious Achua. He was out there.
- [38:44]
Je Skeets
What about you task another winner.
- [38:45]
Tas Melas
Oh, the Toronto Raptors. They won two games this weekend. They've won seven in a row. And they have officially entered the elimination round of the NBA Cup. The first team to do so. This team is a squad. And I like the photo that they took. And after winning and getting into that NBA cup elimination round, look at this. Look at Scotty Barnes mid left. If you're with us on YouTube, that smile on that guy. He wants to be there. Look at Brandon Ingram on the right side. He's kind of disappeared in there. He's just part of the team. You got Jamal Shedd.
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Je Skeets
Grady Dick is one of the funniest looking guys in the NBA.
- [39:26]
Tas Melas
And you know, he's flexing. Look at that tricep flex right there. Oh, I'm looking good. Jamal Shed at the bottom, who is trying to attain his Canadian citizenship according to. Hello and welcome. That's the All Star Game.
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Je Skeets
He's playing like it.
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Tas Melas
Just the squad. Just the squad. Everybody playing now with the NBA cup, they had the. One of the easier groups.
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Je Skeets
Oh, God. Yeah.
- [39:50]
Tas Melas
They had the Pacers and the Wizards. They had the Cavs. They were lucky to play them without Donovan Mitchell when they played them.
- [39:56]
Je Skeets
Yeah. Because they didn't respect the cup.
- [39:58]
Tas Melas
And. And the Atlanta Hawks.
- [40:00]
Je Skeets
So who we own.
- [40:01]
Tas Melas
It reminds me of the Milwaukee Bucks.
- [40:04]
Je Skeets
Yeah, we the north, man.
- [40:05]
Tas Melas
No, I'm not a weed man. But anyways, I'm cool with it if you want to do it. That's cool. They're kind of like the Milwaukee Bucks last year to me. Easy group. And then when the elimination rounds start, you pick it up. So we'll see what happens here when it comes to the core fun, but I just love this squad. What they look like, what they play like. Brandon Ingram is their leading scorer, but he is so willing to pass it to everybody. He is selfless. He's got the fewest shots per game since 1819 for him. Lowest usage rate since 1819 for him. Scotty Barnes, I think the first thing you talk about when you talk about Scotty Barnes is his defense. He's all defense. He doesn't have to shoot, but he is such a connector on the offensive end. He's damn good at that. And RJ Barrett, he's the. Because everybody's passing, he's that cut machine. He can slow down. His floaters are better than they ever been in his career at 19 points per game. So all three of them are 19 points per game. And you go down the pecking order along with Manual, Quickley and Yak and all that. They're just doing it together, so it's fun. Obviously an easy schedule to start if we want to talk about that.
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Je Skeets
Victory over the Nets was a little too close for comfort, but they got it done.
- [41:15]
Tas Melas
They've had a lot of.
- [41:15]
Je Skeets
They got it done. Like what you were saying. It was like Ingram passing out a double. Teams quickly hitting timely shots. He couldn't hit a three to save his life early in the game, but then he hit some big ones. Scotty Barnes everywhere. Scotty Barnes leads the league in stocks, TAs, steals, plus blocks. And I think he, like, ranks basically one of the best in the league when it comes to, like, deflections. Getting his hand on absolutely everything. And there was a huge stop in that game against the Nets on Sunday that was going the other way for two. It was because he was everywhere. It was an incredible defensive possession. You'll probably see the highlights going around. But a good team, that's the key thing here. It's a good team right now.
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Tas Melas
I don't get why opposing coaches always double Brandon Ingram. I think there's too much of that happening. Just let the guy score because he can score, but you allow him to make everybody else better. And he's willing. He is absolutely willing.
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Je Skeets
The wildest stat for me from the first month or so. The Raptors have the best half court offensive rating in the NBA right now. That's amazing.
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Tas Melas
Yeah.
- [42:12]
Je Skeets
What? So, yeah, good win. I mean, close. Yesterday they were without Purdo. I think RJ Barrett did leave that game too, with injury.
- [42:20]
Tas Melas
He did.
- [42:20]
Je Skeets
And the Nets put up a fight, but they got the W. And are they gonna win this cup?
- [42:27]
Tas Melas
Yeah.
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Je Skeets
I don't know.
- [42:29]
Tas Melas
I didn't go deep enough to see who they play because that's part of it to get there. But. Yeah.
- [42:33]
TK
Hasn't won a cup in like 70 years. Right?
- [42:37]
Je Skeets
That's good. I love crapping on the leaves.
- [42:41]
Tas Melas
Daryl shitlered all over us right now. Wow.
- [42:46]
TK
I don't know what that's a reference to.
- [42:48]
Je Skeets
The Daryl Sitler. He made a Daryl sitter.
- [42:50]
TK
Who's Daryl Sidler, though?
- [42:51]
Je Skeets
He's a legendary le player, man. Of course.
- [42:54]
TK
Of course he is.
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Tas Melas
Let me. I want to. I want to eat some words, too, because I. I questioned the BI3B. Hold on. What?
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Je Skeets
Notorious BI3.
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Tas Melas
Notorious BI3. That Matt Devlin says I'll eat some words. People like it. Yeah. Yeah.
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Je Skeets
Well, do. What. What do you think of his other rap reference that Devlin's leaning into a lot. End of game situation. Mamu, he's been on fire. One of the best free agent signings in Raptors history. Mama says, knock you out. He's gone with that a couple times now.
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TK
So good that they raised the audio in the NBA.com recap of it. They're like, you got to listen to this. Mamu says, knock you out. I thought it was great. And he has been awesome. He's like, oh, he's in the Raptors. I think he's got a plus 17 net rating when he's on the court because he can stretch the court. Like something that doesn't make sense to me is that when you have Barnes, Ingram and Barrett on the court together, negative net rating, they actually don't win the minutes. When those guys are out there together, split them up into any combination with Mamu and they're good.
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Je Skeets
Yeah.
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TK
And I should have said, scotty Barnes, you're in the mix for Eastern Conference defensive player.
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Sponsor Voice
Hey.
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TK
You'Re in the mix.
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Je Skeets
Very nice of you.
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Tas Melas
Very nice of you.
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Je Skeets
Ingram, especially with the bench unit, is lights out right now. Like, you got him as your like offensive hub and then I'm a die hard shed head. That guy's awesome. And then Mamu, all these other guys contributing, man, it's. Yeah, it's wild. You're right. When they split them up, they're like lights out.
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Tas Melas
You gotta get, you gotta get as supporting this team. If you're in Canada, how can you not? It's an exciting team to be behind. As I said, Jamal Shed trying to be a Canadian citizen. He got mad at Jacoby Walter when they're singing oh Canon. And Jacoby Walter wasn't part of the National. Wasn't saying. He said, come on, man, do it. Jamal Shedd is that guy on the floor as well. He's just trying to get everybody involved doing that kind of thing.
- [44:49]
Je Skeets
Basically. Like, we've got another Van Vliet. Awesome.
- [44:52]
Tas Melas
Yeah, it's fun. It's fun. Yeah. Devlin doing the call in. I will say the NBA page way better this year at putting together highlight packages, getting the broadcasters involved, going sound up. Silver said, this team is, or excuse me, this league is a highlight league and the highlights are better on the NBA page. They're trying way more, I think, just to make it more fun. And they're doing that. And yeah, and by the way, it's.
- [45:19]
Je Skeets
Very likely the Raptors will be the number one seed on the east side of the cup bracket. So they'll take on the wild card team, which could be, like I said, the Miami Heat or maybe the Knicks. It probably be one of those teams. Okay, so that's your matchup would be, I would assume.
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Tas Melas
Yeah.
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Je Skeets
Just so you know.
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Tas Melas
Yeah. And I will say Glorilla, who is on Brandon Ingram's lady friend, she was there courtside and she, she swayed me on the notorious Bi3 because she was holding up a phone that said Notorious B.I. 3. Yeah, she's cool with it, so I'm cool with it.
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Je Skeets
Other winners, I got just a bunch I want to chuck at you guys. James Harden made 10 three pointers and scored 55 points over the weekend in a Clippers win over the Hornets. That was on Saturday. It was Harden's 25th 50 point game in his long career. Tied Kobe Bryant for third most 50 point games in NBA history. And this is fun. Harden is the only active player to hold single game scoring records for two different franchises. Scored 61 with the Rockets twice. He did that. That's a franchise record. And now 55 with the Clippers. Who'd he passed? Bob McAdoo and Charles Smith or something like that.
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TK
Charles Smith?
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Je Skeets
Yeah, I think so. Someone ran.
- [46:32]
TK
I think he did have a 54.
- [46:33]
Je Skeets
Point 52 I thought it was. But yeah, yeah. Anyway, it's Hardens now he's got both of them. It's pretty crazy.
- [46:41]
TK
James Harden, man, I'll never stop. I will never stop loving you.
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Je Skeets
James Harden.
- [46:47]
TK
He's cooking. He hasn't ever missed the playoffs in his NBA career. Every team he's played on makes the playoffs. And The Clippers are 5 and 12 right now. This is going to be an uphill climb.
- [46:59]
Je Skeets
You think the streak is snapped here? Ooh, yeah. That's going to be tough, right?
- [47:02]
TK
We shall see.
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Je Skeets
The Thunder toppled the only team to beat them this year. They got the revenge on the blazers. Kick their ass. 122 95. The victory moves OKC to 17 and 1. But don't talk about it. Don't look at them. SGA was nearly unstoppable. We'll get to him later in. Whoa, boy. Jalen Johnson. 28 points, 11 assists, eight boards. Hawks won for the seventh time in nine games. Tight victory against the Hornets on. I just wanted to bring that up because Ghostface Ziller had this in his newsletter. Jalen Johnson is becoming more than a future all star. I'm starting to think he can be the best player on a true contender. He's only 23. End quote from Ghostface. Yeah, he's a young man. He's putting together some crazy stat lines over the last week or so. He is filling up the box score. And he has some monster dunks in that game too. That guy soars. I'm glad he plays for the Hawks. He literally soars when he jumps to me. Just like floats like glides in the air. It looks so effortless to me.
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Tas Melas
He's awesome.
- [48:00]
Je Skeets
And then finally Dozier on X suggested and this was an interesting one so I wanted to include it. He said, the Magic winner of the weekend. I said, well hold on, the Magic lost this weekend. But he said, look at this. They dominated the win over the Knicks on Friday. That was a big cup game. And then despite losing to the Celtics on Sunday, they came back from down 26 to make it very close in the fourth with no Palo no Suggs, no Wendell Carter Jr. No Goga. And the rookies played very well for the, for the magic. Jace had 18. Jace Richardson and Jed Howard dropped 30 in that game. He had 22 in the fourth quarter. So there you go, Dozier. I included it for you. Yeah, it's an interesting one. Doesn't always have to be. You only went, you know, undefeated on the weekend. Two and oh, that's impressive. Those guys that we've like wondered at times, like Chad Howard especially, that was a really good game for him. They did make it close.
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Tas Melas
It was a fun fourth quarter to make it close. They do depend on the heart of Jalen Suggs. There's no doubt he was out that game. I think that's the last back to back game that he's going to sit out this season. They sat him out just to rest him, but apparently that's the last time they're going to do that. Wendell Carter Jr. Also important to that defense. So that's definitely why they looked bad against the Boston Celtics. But I would give them a winner because they gave Franz Wagner the turkey after the win against the New York Knicks, like they do every year.
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TK
I love it.
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Tas Melas
He did the, the slicing it up, carving it. Yeah. And then usually we see somebody grab that turkey leg and eat it. He said, no, I'm not eating that. He's taking care of himself, taking care of his bod. Even though a turkey bite, that's healthy, I guess. I mean, it should be healthy depending on what they're putting on that turkey. Either way, he knows what he has to eat. And he said, no way. I'm not touching that. I'm not biting that. All right. Dante and Galante. I'm not eating that.
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TK
You got to replenish your protein stores after. Yeah, a workout.
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Tas Melas
You do.
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Je Skeets
Excited? You excited for turkey this week? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, me too.
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Tas Melas
I'm not a Franz Vagner. I'm not a basketball player. I can eat turkey.
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Je Skeets
Those are a whole bunch of winners of the weekend. Who do we miss though? Let us know in the stream team. We'll get to losers of the weekend, including a spicy beef that we had. But before then, spicy Thanksgiving beef on Thanksgiving. Before that, a quick break to hear from our sponsors.
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TK
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Je Skeets
Now you're doing yoga.
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TK
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- [52:21]
TK
Lot of temper boys in the NBA this weekend. The Pelicans were repeat offenders, ruffling the Mavs feathers on Friday night with Najee Marshall featuring prominently in the beef. Former Pelican. I think he just likes to talk trash with his old team. They followed that up, the Pelicans did Saturday night with a rookie moment. Derek Queen stole the ball from V. Kreche as he was dribbling out the clock. Took it the other way for a dunk. Pelicans are down by 20 at this point. That's a no, no. Do not disrespect V Crazy like that. Also Saturday night, the Bulls barely pulled out a win against the Wizards. Post game. Vuch gave an incredible interview. I don't know if you guys saw.
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Je Skeets
I did.
- [53:00]
TK
Calls out the team for being soft in the first three quarters. Jalen Smith, Matas Bou. Zealous. Being very silly in the background, like jumping around. Vuch is pissed.
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Je Skeets
Oh, yeah.
- [53:10]
TK
He pushed Boozelis out of the way. Move, man.
- [53:12]
Je Skeets
I love that. Yeah, Big dad energy from Jalen gets into him.
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TK
Come on, be happy, man.
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Je Skeets
V.
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TK
Interview says, we just played really soft. It was really bad. We can't keep doing this. It's not sustainable. You're exactly right, dad. Energy from Vuch. He was upset to be driving those kids for a 12 hour car ride. Would you shut up? We're just trying to win some games here. That was an incredible interview. You could see Casey Johnson just laughing as it's happening. He's like, thank you for being honest. But taking the cake, of course. Ja Morant versus Klay Thompson. Ja missing his third straight game, almost his fifth straight game. He played five minutes in one of them. But the Grizzlies got the win. Clay had a good game, 22 points off the bench, but missed a big three pointer to tie with 20 seconds left. Maybe a bit of a rush shot afterwards. Jaws got his fingers in his face going to Klay Thompson, calling him a bum. And then the postgame interview with Cam Spencer, who played great job, made sure to be overheard yelling, tell him who the best shooter in the house was. It wasn't bro from Golden State. Clay didn't like it. In his post game interview in the locker room, he said Jaws comments were nothing of intelligent depth. Also a dad comment, right? That said Jaw is just running his mouth. He's been running his mouth for a long time and it's funny to run your mouth when you're on the bench. Facts. It's kind of the story of his career so far. Just leaving us wanting more.
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Je Skeets
Oh, unk mode.
- [54:46]
TK
Yeah, he was putting John his place. They get on the court and then talk, buddy. I thought this was great. From Klay Thompson. Clay was kind of mad this entire game. Got mad at Santee Alama for tripping up Cooper flag. He was still mad at Vince Williams. I think he was just mad. He was just on overdrive at that point. And then after missing the shot, which surely upset him even more, to have Jaw get in his face when he's not even playing set Clay off. So big time loser energy, I thought from John Morant right there.
- [55:15]
Je Skeets
And this beef Goes back until what, 2021 at least the play in game between the Grizzlies and Warriors and then the next year when they had the seven game series. A lot of talk between these teams and Clay talks with the best of them. Like he'll let people know. He's generally playing though, and has backed it up with a bunch of championship rings. It's the John Moran. They're in the suits, in the sweatsuit, I should say on the sideline pointing and barking and chirping. And then. Yeah, he didn't. Clay did not hold back in that post game interview with what he said about him.
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Tas Melas
Yeah.
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Je Skeets
Because he went disappointing dad mode.
- [55:49]
Tas Melas
Yeah.
- [55:49]
Je Skeets
I'm not even angry about you like trash talking. It's like you don't even play, man. You're supposed to be a superstar.
- [55:55]
Tas Melas
Yeah, the finger in Clay's face was too much. That was too far. They have a beef and so that's acceptable. I thought jumping in to his teammate Spencer's postgame press conference was all right. He's showing support for. For Spencer. Although then he mentions Clay, you know. You know. Yeah, it goes back. The word bum as, as. As Morant called him was something that Clay called Morant in 2022 when the Grizzlies beat the warriors in the regular season. Then the warriors were able to take them out in the playoffs. So Morant said, let's see the strength in numbers or whatever he tweeted. And then Clay said that bum. So now it's a, it's just a bum fest. I guess they just call each other bumps and that's a thing. So you know, it's jaw. Unfortunately I don't. Again, I don't mind like you know, trash talking but you know, gotta go get in his face after the win. I mean that's just like what's up with that, right?
- [56:54]
Je Skeets
You generally. Well, yeah, generally you'd like your trash talk to be between two guys playing.
- [56:59]
Tas Melas
Yeah, generally.
- [57:00]
Je Skeets
I get it. You hear guys that are on the side like barking and stuff. But yeah, yeah, that's the part where Clay legit buried him in the post game comments because he's like. And I think the stat was going around. I think Tom Haberstrough had it. Like Clay, after his two devastating injuries has played in more games than John.
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Tas Melas
Moran has in his career.
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Je Skeets
Yeah, yeah. Like after the ACL and all that and the Achilles, like that's pretty wild. That's a telling stat right there for one guy. Young and in his like not even his prime or entering his prime. The other, obviously a little older, but coming back and still getting out there, there, even if he has been struggling. And this was a good clay game.
- [57:35]
Tas Melas
This was a good one.
- [57:36]
Je Skeets
It was a good clay game until he obviously missed that big shot. But he's just pissed. I'm with you. He is. He's angry with how his season's gone, how the Maverick season has gone. So it's, it's come to a little frustration.
- [57:48]
TK
The guy wears his emotions on his sleeve. And this is reminiscent of the end of his Golden State tenure when like everybody was getting their shots in on Klay Thompson and his struggles being part of the starting lineup, but maybe not should have been part of the starting lineup. Remember, he's like always given his four rings to people and eventually got shipped out or signed with the, with the Mavericks. It feels really similar having a tough season, not being where he wants to be and very proud of his accomplishments. So to have a guy who's done basically nothing in the league come at him when he's not even playing. I'm on clay side for this one.
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Je Skeets
I think most people are.
- [58:28]
Tas Melas
Oh, yeah, yeah. Everybody is, I'm sure. But. And this is clay time. As we said last year, even with the maps. December, January, that's when he got it going because he started poorly last year. And now with that 22 point game, he's starting to look like Clay.
- [58:41]
Je Skeets
Just wait till after Turkey for Clay. That's the kid.
- [58:45]
Tas Melas
That was close. Yeah, that shot, that one shot would have shut everybody up, but he was short on that, on that shot. It was a deep three. Little rushy rush, I thought, but otherwise looking good.
- [58:55]
Je Skeets
Who do you have for a loser of the weekend?
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Tas Melas
Let's start with Clay's old team, the Golden State Warriors. They got beat by the Blazers. They just played one game this weekend. They're now down to nine and nine. After a really good start, they've lost three in a row. The vibes aren't immaculate with the Golden State Warriors. Even though Steph performed in this Portland Trip Blazers game, he had 38. They were giving up way too many open shots over and over. Maybe it's just that first game back after a long road trip, but they're playing zone and they're allowing guys like Caleb Love, a man by the name of Caleb Love, to score 26 points. He's a good story. He's only played nine games in the NBA, but those shots were just wide open. And then when he was missing or other guys were missing, the Blazers just got offensive rebound after Offensive rebound after offensive rebound. They had 21 offensive rebounds in this game. I talk about Trace Jackson, Davis maybe getting some minutes because they need height, they need help. Steve Kerr does not trust him. Yanked him real quick in this game. And Jimmy Butler after the game called out their defense. So who are we? What are we? I haven't been around here long, but this isn't who they are. And again, just a lot of bad things going wrong at this time. Jonathan Kaminga is not playing tonight. He's been out now, including tonight, will be out six straight games. Al Horford got the old man injury. He's got sciatica. He's going to be out a week now. They have had a very road heavy schedule. 12 on the road, six at home. That's a little bit of a part of it, but also when you got some of these injuries happening, you got old guys. You just need some. Something to happen from internally and maybe it's the D Anthony Melton effect. He'll be coming back. Let's go soon. Ish. He's already practicing and stuff. So. They just need vibes. They need vibes. And nine and nine. I think they're just one of those teams that I know our friends Brian Windhorse and especially Tim Bonteps were saying that the west is just kind of unimpressive right now, which I get, but I don't really agree. I think it's the teams like this, like the warriors who just aren't killing it, the Wolves who just aren't killing it, that are kind of disappointing and aren't towards the top that are. That's really got that narrative going. But there's really good teams in the west and I think the Golden State warriors just need to find some, some vibes because schedule oldness is, is definitely a factor.
- [61:24]
Je Skeets
And that loss on Friday night, I keep going back to it because I respect it. That was a cup loss and they're one and two now and they are not coming out of the group of death. And the Blazers are maybe in the driver's seat at 2 and 1 in West Group C, but they have a minus 18 point differential, which is very funny.
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TK
Rockets.
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Je Skeets
The Nuggets are 2 and 1 as well. The Rockets are 1 and 2, spurs are 1 and 1. So it's really down to three teams there. Spurs, Blazers and then Nuggets. So we'll see.
- [61:52]
TK
Yeah, the warriors are lucky that Steph Curry scored 46 and 49 against the Spurs. Back to back games, got two wins. If not for that, their only win since November 4th would be against the Pacers and the Pelicans, two of the absolute worst teams in the league. The game against the Trailblazers was crazy to see. Caleb Love lighting him up. CD Ssoko lighting them up I just, they seem so frantic to me. They're just running around without any sort of defensive plan. It felt like they were getting beat off the dribble and then it felt like all five guys were collapsing, maybe overhelping a little bit. So easy kickouts for three. And then it's like, okay, I gotta run out and get that guy. They finally miss it. You give up an easy offensive rebound. They're playing a ton of small guys. Like you're saying, I don't actually think Chris Jackson Davis is the answer. Steve Kerr clearly doesn't trust with him. Was out of the rotation for a lot of the season last year. Out of the rotation to start this year. Horford's never been a big rebounder. Post doesn't really rebound. Draymond is six. Six. You know, they don't have necessarily the personnel to be a great defensive team and the schedule definitely isn't helping, but that's the good thing. The warriors are complaining a lot about the schedule right now. How much travel, how many back to backs they've had. Every team has about the same number of back to back. So if you're front loaded in the first half of the season, it means in the second half of the season you're going to have more home games where they play. Okay. And you're going to have less back to back. So maybe once they figure out what happens with Kamingo or whether that means him coming back and joining the rotation or more likely trading him for somebody, that's helpful. Maybe they're able to string things together in the second half of the season. But top of the west is good. Middle of the west is. Anybody can beat anybody because nobody's a dominant team right now.
- [63:33]
Je Skeets
My loser of the weekend, I got to give it to the Denver Nuggets. You already brought up Westbrook taking over in the fourth quarter and beating them. The Sacramento Kings beating the Nuggets. But the real reason is Aaron Gordon is going to be out with a right hamstring strain. He's going to be reevaluated in four to six weeks. So this is a long time here. He was injured in Friday's loss to the. Excuse me, they did win that game. He was injured in that win over the Rockets on Friday night. But this is tough. This guy's one of the Best three Andy players in the league and the Nuggets success with him on the floor backs that claim up. He missed 31 games last season. A majority of it was due to the right cast strain. The Nuggets were 17 and 14 in the games without Aaron Gordon. So just above.500 when he played. They're 33 and 18. That's like a 65% win clip. So he's important. And then on top of that, we've already talked about starting two guard Christian Brown. He's out. He's missing significant time with a left ankle sprain. So now that's two guys out of your starting lineup. Guys that are like again these three and D elite guys are the perfect guys to compliment Jokic and Jamal Murray and they're gone now. So gives more time to Tim Hardaway and Peyton Watson and Bruce Brown, I guess Julian Strother whenever he can get back maybe. But I look at Cam Johnson now and it's like, all right, like here's like a lot more responsibility. As somebody put it, the onboarding is over. Cam Johnson maybe need you to step into that third leading scorer role. The leading, the defense role that we know he has in them. Maybe hasn't shown a whole bunch and hasn't had to maybe at this point. But there's, there's a guy there that has to sort of step up into that vacuum to me. So tough loss, Aaron Gordon going down here.
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Tas Melas
Yeah. Especially because it's now sort of a recurring injury with, with Aaron Gordon. It's Cam Johnson time. It's really up to him. I know they're, they've got other wings but it's, it's really on him as far as playmaking and just leading the defense. Yeah.
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Je Skeets
The good thing is they got off to a great, great start here like record wise. Even if they slip a little bit, which I would assume they would because he's important. So is Christian Brown and you know, I guess prime example losing to the, to the Kings. And Aaron Gordon barely played in that game too is a part of it. But they have a nice start to the season. So you know they're not like playing from behind here.
- [65:55]
TK
Right away early on, lost to the Kings on an eight game losing streak. Lost to the Bulls on a five game losing streak. Bulls are coming off a back to back double ot. They were just very lackadaisical in both of these games thinking that they had them handled. But I'm with you, it's going to be on Cam Johnson to show why they made the move. To ship Michael Porter Jr. Out, because right now this looks like a win for the Nets. And also, Jamal Murray needs to be a little bit better playing outside of his minutes with Nikola Jokic. Those two on the floor, they're unstoppable, but you split them up. And Murray isn't necessarily able to carry the team, and they're just going to need him to do a little bit more offensively because the defense just isn't going to be the same without Aaron Gordon. He's the rare guy who guards up and down in the lineup, can play as a bigger guy when they need him to, as a smaller guy when they need him to. So I think they're just going to have to go crazy on the offensive end, which they're certainly capable of doing.
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Tas Melas
Yeah.
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Je Skeets
And you'd rather like these unfortunate injuries now, of course, than April and May. I'm talking about to Aaron Gordon and Christian Brown. Like, this can sometimes work in your favor, where you can get valuable minutes for some of the guys off the bench. They're thrown into more of a starting role or even just asking Cam Johnson to do more. And it can pay off down the line. Like, you can have a guy like maybe Peyton Watson, Tim Hardaway Jr. He's a vet. You sort of know what you're getting at this point. But some of these guys can get an opportunity. Strother, again, he comes to mind if he can get back because he's banged up, it can work out down the line just with some reps with some of, like, the key players. And then you can see them in like a big quarter where they win you a quarter in a playoff series.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, especially Cam combined with the bench players. If he can lead those players like Aaron Gordon had to at times during the regular season last year when the bench looks stinky, they said, all right, Jamal, Aaron Gordon, it's your time. And if it's not Jamal leading it, Cam Johnson can do more of that. So it can work for the deep bench guys, but can also work for the third and fourth option guys in Cam Johnson. And he's got to get going offensively a little bit. He's great at playmaking and he's a very capable player, but he's got to be able to play to what he did last year. Although I will say it was a great Nuggets Rockets game. I will say about Reed shepherd, who looked awesome with the Denton, with the Houston Rockets. He's talking trash like he's a member of the Houston Rockets, like they all do. It feels like he hit that shot. He was miked. And he hit it in Tim Hardaway's face. And he came back and he said, you dumb. And he stopped himself from saying the word ass because he knew he was Mike. Very funny.
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Je Skeets
Caught himself.
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Tas Melas
I think it's cool to say ass in 2025. Ass and dam are fine now, right?
- [68:34]
TK
Mostly.
- [68:34]
Tas Melas
Things have changed.
- [68:35]
Je Skeets
You don't gotta ask me.
- [68:36]
Tas Melas
No, yeah. I just mean in general. Wow.
- [68:44]
Je Skeets
You're the one always doing the incredible job of bleeping yourself.
- [68:48]
Tas Melas
I'm just asking what you think of the. The landscape.
- [68:52]
Je Skeets
Damn. And ass are good to go.
- [68:53]
Tas Melas
The media world landscape. Yeah. The NBA is okay with it. Sports are okay with it.
- [68:59]
Je Skeets
I think so.
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Tas Melas
Yeah.
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Je Skeets
Any other losers of the weekend they want to slip in there?
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TK
No, I didn't like the Kevin Herder ejection.
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Je Skeets
Oh, yeah.
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TK
Those are the weekend of Tony brothers.
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Je Skeets
That could be a worst of the week nominee. That was crazy.
- [69:13]
TK
Let the boy slap a ball. He wasn't slapping it at you, Tony.
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Je Skeets
Yeah, hit the other. Serious. That was weak.
- [69:20]
TK
That was weak.
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Tas Melas
I will say one thing about Kevin Herder. They did one of those social media videos. The Bulls are asking everybody, hey, what's your must go to on Thanksgiving? They asked Kevin Herter. He said the sweet potato marshmallow casserole, whatever it is called. What's it called?
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TK
Sweet potato casserole.
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Je Skeets
Probably. Yeah.
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Tas Melas
But it's got marshmallows. It's like a sweetie. Sweetie dish. Weird. A weird thing to say. Like that's your go to. That's your number one loser of the weekend.
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TK
Right. Likes the color.
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Je Skeets
I mean.
- [69:52]
Tas Melas
Yeah. The color as on a dessert table, fine. But as your go to. And I don't think it was just the way they edited. He said, that's my. That's my thing. Yeah. You know. I know.
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Je Skeets
It's a bold take for sure. I guess maybe loser of the weekend too. Small one to Kevin Love, who got nutmegged.
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Tas Melas
Oh, yeah.
- [70:11]
Je Skeets
By Luca.
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TK
That was a nice one.
- [70:13]
Tas Melas
That was rough.
- [70:13]
Je Skeets
Wow. In transition. Straight through the legs. See you later. Kevin just turned around. Oh, where'd he go? And then a huge oop. I guess to was that Jackson Hayes that threw that one down. That was nice. Nice play. Good game from Luca. Got very close. Jazz made it competitive in the end, but the Lakers eeked it out.
- [70:30]
Tas Melas
Yeah. The Jazz would say Keante George falling before the inbound pass is a loser of the weekend. Lakers getting a call or a non call. I should say that Marcus Smart, that's your winner of the weekend. He hooked him, grabbed him, he falls, he doesn't get the ball. So that could be a. That could have been a moment where the Jazz had an option there. Anyway. Lakers love it. Lakers fans love it.
- [70:54]
TK
I'm also a little like, what's up with you? Minnesota Timberwolves haven't beat a winning team yet. Anthony Edwards, impossible to give him a loser of the weekend. He scored 41 points, 25 in the second half of that loss against the Suns. But like I mentioned, he did have that, like, very nonchalant turnover that really helped start the comeback for the Suns. He did miss two free throws. He did give up a big time offensive rebound to Royce o'. Neal. I don't feel like we're seeing MVP level play from Anthony Edwards at all this season. When he doesn't have a good scoring game, it feels like he doesn't have a good game, period. And I think that if he were better, the Timberwolves would be a team more well respected right now. Because right now it looks like they're just going to beat up on the bad teams, which there are a lot of bad teams. They're going to have a good enough record, which they do right now. I think they're 10 and 6.
- [71:43]
Tas Melas
Yep.
- [71:43]
TK
But they're going to have to eventually level up if they want to take on some of the top of the Western Conference.
- [71:48]
Tas Melas
I'm telling you, they need Chris Paul. Chris Paul in that locker room.
- [71:52]
TK
Who's better at Chris Paul or Mike Conley?
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Je Skeets
Chris Paul, Mike Conley.
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Tas Melas
I mean, Mike Conley. But it doesn't matter. Chris Paul is your guy. He's an energy guy. Mike Conley's not your, your leader. I don't think. I don't think Anthony Edwards, I mean, he respects Mike Conley. There's no doubt. But you just need an asshole. I think that's what they need.
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Je Skeets
The question is, who's a bigger asshole between Chris Paul and Mike Conley? Yeah, put me down for Chris Paul. He's the nicest guy in NBA history.
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Tas Melas
Apparently they like him. They keep playing for him. When Anthony Edwards gets eliminated for the playoffs, he said, man, I wanted to do this for Mike, so I think they could just use that. But it is weird. There are times, I guess in the season where you do see Anthony Edwards not play to his capability. This is it. Even at the end when he had the chance to hit the game winner, when they inbounded it, he kind of got doubled, but he spun and just passed it to Julius Randall. Yeah, exactly. So the same peak, peak Ant.
- [72:49]
Je Skeets
Yeah, it is a shocking stat that you just said that they haven't beaten like a team with a winning record. I guess when they took them on. Right. That is pretty wild. They had a couple losses to the Lakers. They've lost to the Nuggets maybe twice now. Yeah, I think they have lost to the Suns like you said lost to the Knicks. So yeah, need a, need a good one. Under their belt. They beat the Blazers, but then even at the start of the season, that.
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TK
Was the first game of the year and they came back from a 20 point deficit.
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Je Skeets
Okay, there you go. There you go.
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Tas Melas
All right.
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Je Skeets
Those are our winners and losers of the NBA weekend. Who'd we miss? Let us know in the comments below here on YouTube. All right, little bit of the night fantasy line of the night. Only looking at Sunday here, not doing the entire weekend. So Sunday games, it's going to a good old Canadian boy from the hammer. Shay Gilgeous Alexander gets will they of the night 37 points versus the Blazers on Sunday. Shot 13 of 18 from the floor, 2 of 3 from deep nine. Nine perfect at the line. Added a game high seven assists. He had five boards, two steals and just one turnover in 30 minutes. He did all of this in 30. 30 minutes is the other part. So an easy 37. 7 and 5 TASS and limited time as they got their revenge against Portland.
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Tas Melas
Ant versus Shay on Wednesday. That's. That'll be a fun one. Okay.
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Je Skeets
Okay.
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Tas Melas
That's an inseason tournament game. An NBA cup game on a Wednesday. Yeah.
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Je Skeets
Telling you we have a lot of cup games this week. There's a lot more.
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Tas Melas
It's not.
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Je Skeets
It's not just Friday night is my point.
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Tas Melas
Yeah, it's late October or late November schedule. They're packed. You know what I mean? It's back ended, whatever you call it. They pushed it back. I guess that's what they do because.
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Je Skeets
There'S cup games tomorrow night and Wednesday.
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Tas Melas
And Friday and Friday.
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Je Skeets
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Tas Melas
One worse.
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TK
There's cup games tomorrow night.
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Je Skeets
I believe so.
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TK
Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday.
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Je Skeets
Yeah, I think so.
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Tas Melas
I think all three games tomorrow night are cup games. Cup games. There's only three games and they're all cuppers tonight.
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Je Skeets
Are not cuppers but we have our pick them game. Even though this is over in cast will have a goatee to start December. So next week we can look forward to goatee tasks. But where are we going tonight?
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Tas Melas
It's December next week? Yeah, we're going to Toronto. Toronto. Raptors are playing Cleveland for the first or. Excuse Me for the third time this season. It's weird. And they are three and a half point dogs at home, so I felt comfortable taking those three points. So did Skeets, while Trey. It's got the Cavs to win by four or more. Cavs. Raptors.
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Je Skeets
Yeah, the. The Raptors have beaten the Cavs twice already this year.
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Tas Melas
Yeah. Can they do it again? I had no problem taking them.
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TK
Have we picked this game every time? We definitely did it last.
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Je Skeets
We definitely did it once.
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Tas Melas
I don't know.
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Je Skeets
The first time.
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TK
I couldn't tell if we did it the first time either. But if we did, I definitely picked Cleveland. Every single time.
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Je Skeets
Oh, boy.
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TK
Everybody. Every single time.
- [75:45]
Je Skeets
I think you might be right. That was a couple things. It was a Cup game, so I think it was a Friday. I like calling.
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TK
That's pretty good. Darius Garland's back, right?
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Tas Melas
He's back.
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Je Skeets
He's back.
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TK
You know, that's good.
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Je Skeets
Yeah, like chances.
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Tas Melas
Maybe he sits out of back to back. I'm not sure because he did play yesterday, but it is good for him.
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Je Skeets
Oh, both teams on a back to back. Yeah, I forgot about the Cavs.
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Tas Melas
Toronto doesn't have to travel while Cleveland does.
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Je Skeets
Right?
- [76:07]
Tas Melas
Ten games tonight, so pretty packed schedule.
- [76:11]
Je Skeets
All right, Well, I did see some movement on this line too. I did check FanDuel this morning and it was already down to two for the Cavs.
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TK
Who's resting?
- [76:21]
Je Skeets
I'm just saying maybe. Yeah, we did it. It was three and a half. So Cleveland's got to win by four for Trey to get the win. You and I need the Raps to lose a close, close game or just outright win for the third time over Cleveland. Maybe they will. Maybe they will. All right, we'll call it there fun show. Lots discussed in terms of Chris Paul. Winners and losers of the weekend. Some other fun things. We'll be back tomorrow to recap a lot of these games on tonight. 10. 10 too many.
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TK
Because we gotta keep Thursday free, right?
- [76:52]
Je Skeets
There's no games on Thursday. No games on Thursday. So bunch them up. When was the last time the NBA played a game on Thanksgiving? It's gotta be eternity. I don't ever remember them playing since we've done the show for 20 years.
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Tas Melas
Really? Wow.
- [77:05]
Je Skeets
I don't think so. I'll have to factor.
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TK
Probably not.
- [77:07]
Je Skeets
Yeah, I can't remember it. But we'll be back tomorrow to talk about those games and anything else you want us to talk about. Maybe. You got a question, send it in. No Dunks, Inc. Mail.com.
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TK
Yes.
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Tas Melas
Yes.
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Je Skeets
I almost said the old company.
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Tas Melas
Ah yes.
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Je Skeets
Caught myself.
- [77:23]
Tas Melas
Yep.
- [77:24]
Je Skeets
No dunksincmail.com Send in your questions. Maybe we'll hit the battle at some point this week before we eat all.
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TK
The turkey and the spicy beef.
- [77:35]
Je Skeets
Yeah, that'll be fun. I had spicy beef last night.
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TK
Clipper Bros. Time turn up. Love you guys. Awesome.
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Tas Melas
Thanks for joining us. And remember, it's no Dunks Inc. At not the old company dot com.
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Je Skeets
Brace the day people.
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Tas Melas
Okay, only ten more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first. There the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.
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