NBA Weekend Winners & Losers | Tangible Cup Intensity, Cooper Flagg Makes History, Cavs Panic

Summary

No Dunks – NBA Weekend Winners & Losers | Tangible Cup Intensity, Cooper Flagg Makes History, Cavs Panic

Podcast: No Dunks (iHeartPodcasts)
Date: December 1, 2025
Hosts: J. Skeets, Tas Melas, Trey Kirby, JD

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the NBA weekend’s biggest winners and losers, with a focus on the intensifying NBA Cup tournament, young phenoms like Cooper Flagg, the surging Hawks, Giannis’s scoring milestones, and concerning skids for the Clippers, Bulls, and Cavaliers. The hosts swap observations on game drama, iconic performances, group dynamics, and the growing stakes of the NBA Cup.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. NBA Cup Weekend: Tangible Intensity and Drama (04:45)

Theme: The NBA’s in-season tournament is delivering real drama, unexpected intensity, and memorable games.

• Winners advancing: Magic, Knicks, Heat (wild card), Thunder, Spurs, Suns (wild card).
• Highlight games: Knicks vs. Bucks, Thunder vs. Suns, Lakers vs. Mavs.
• Court controversy: Luka Doncic’s complaints about the Lakers’ NBA Cup court being slippery led to a last-minute court swap.
  Tas: “Because their superstar was doing that. He comes out, he throws an alley oop to LeBron… But I just thought as a whole, considering Amazon Prime is now the NBA Cup feature broadcaster, they hit back-to-back homers.” (07:30)
• Intensity observation: The stakes, financial incentives, and national TV focus seem to have players (especially bench guys) and crowds more locked in, making these games feel closer to playoff energy.
  Skeets: “Those guys at the end of the bench are more into these games than your normal mid-November, late November games. Without a doubt. Because there’s a lot of money on the line.” (15:14)
• Cup incentives debate:
  • Josh Hart’s proposal: Cup winner gets a half-game tiebreaker in regular season standings.
    Hart (paraphrased): “You get to the championship game...you get a half game, so you have the tiebreaker and it legitimizes the Cup more.” (16:14)
  • Hosts discuss alternatives, with consensus that boosts shouldn’t be too drastic (e.g., not instant home-court advantage or draft picks).

2. Individual Winners & Memorable Performances

Jalen Johnson (Hawks) Emerges as Star (21:36)

• Two monster games: Triple-double (29/12/12) vs. Cavs; career-high 41 points in 2OT win over the Sixers, adding 14 boards and 7 assists.
• Trey: “The dude’s awesome in transition...It feels like the game has slowed down for him in the half court. He’s very patient getting to his spots and he’s become a really good passer, particularly in traffic.” (22:18)
• Hawks now 10-5 without Trae Young, who’s out at least two more weeks.

Giannis Antetokounmpo Hits 21,000 Points (30:29)

• Drops 30/15/8 vs. Knicks and 29 points in 19 minutes vs. Nets.
• 6th youngest player to reach 21,000 points.
  Tas: “He wants to be the all-time leading scorer… named all [the top five] right away. ‘Yeah, of course… That’s the guy I’m trying to reach.’” (31:05)
• Calculations: Would need to play 11 more years, average 29 PPG to catch LeBron (~42,000 points).

Cooper Flagg Makes History (34:57)

• Scores 35 vs. Clippers, youngest to score 35+ in an NBA game (passing LeBron’s record).
• Second-night of a back-to-back, did it while running point and attacking mismatches.
• Trey: “Cooper Flag should still be in college...He came out Saturday and put the team on his back. Super impressive first 20 games: 19 PPG on 51% shooting in his last 10.” (36:11)

Klay Thompson’s Thanksgiving (off-court & on-court) (37:44)

• Explodes for 17 fourth quarter points vs. Clippers, “flashback Klay” game.
• Celebrates Thanksgiving with Megan Thee Stallion and family; she receives critical acclaim for her cooking and “SS Stallion” boat reveal.

Other Winners (41:41)

• Charlotte Hornets: Snap 7-game losing streak with consecutive wins over Bulls and Raptors.
• Josh Hart (Knicks): Averaged 19.5 points, 13.5 rebounds, 7 assists in two wins despite recent off-court burglary.
• Zach Edey (Grizzlies rookie): 32 points, 17 rebounds, 5 blocks, dominates Kings’ smaller lineups (44:14).
• Jay Huff (Pacers): 14 straight points to start a game—“Guard him!”

3. Weekend Losers

LA Clippers—the Panic Meter is Real (46:41)

• Now 5–15, losers of 13 of last 15.
  • Harden looks demoralized and shows “eye-roll” energy in postgames.
  • Bench production is abysmal (outscored 47-15 by Grizzlies, 41-5 by Mavs).
  • “They don’t have an answer. It’s defense and it’s offense, and when both those things aren’t working…” (48:01)
• Discussion: Is it time to trade Harden, Kawhi, others? (segment teaser for next show)
• Offense ranked 22nd, defense 25th, bottom in pace and athleticism.

Chicago Bulls—Back to Reality (51:57)

• Started November 5-0, end month at 9-10 after losses to the Hornets and Pacers.
• Trey: “This team feels like they’re beat before the game starts… They gave up 14 straight to Jay Huff—all on wide open shots.” (53:22)
• Defensive decline, sliding into expected mediocrity, and trade rumblings begin.

Cleveland Cavaliers—Should They Panic? (55:02)

• 12–9, looking pedestrian despite high expectations; locker room introspection and public frustration:
  • Jalen Tyson: “We’re in cruise control as a team… not hungry enough… we’re getting beat on the glass.” (55:48)
• Garland’s health and Mobley’s slow development are sore points.
• Trey: “They don’t put pressure on the rim, they gotta be making three pointers… defensively they’re just not a very athletic team.” (57:11)

4. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Those guys at the end of the bench are more into these games than your normal mid-November, late November games. Without a doubt. Because there’s a lot of money on the line.” – Skeets on Cup intensity (15:14)
• “Cooper Flagg should still be in college... He came out Saturday and put the team on his back.” – Trey (36:11)
• “He (Giannis) would have to average 52 over five years to do it. And that’s 82 games. Okay, that’s impossible.” – Tas (31:33)
• “This team feels like they’re beat before the game starts… They gave up 14 straight to Jay Huff—all on wide open shots.” – Trey, on the Bulls (53:22)
• “They don’t have an answer. It’s defense and it’s offense, and when both those things aren’t working…” – Tas, on Clippers malaise (48:01)

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Timeline of Major Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------|-----------------------------------------| | 04:45 | NBA Cup winners, group drama | | 07:17 | Best Cup games, court controversy | | 09:29 | Cup “caring,” incentives, Josh Hart idea| | 21:36 | Jalen Johnson’s monster week | | 27:54 | Overtime, officiating, NBA pace | | 30:29 | Giannis milestone & scoring chase | | 34:57 | Cooper Flagg’s rookie exploits | | 37:44 | Klay Thompson’s Thanksgiving | | 41:41 | Other winners: Hornets, Hart, Edey | | 46:41 | Clippers collapse, trade speculation | | 51:57 | Bulls backsliding, trade talk | | 55:02 | Cavaliers’ panic checkpoint |

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Noteworthy Statistical Nuggets

• Jalen Johnson: Averages 24/10/8 in 15 games w/o Trae Young (21:39)
• Cooper Flagg: 19 PPG, 51% FG in last 10, youngest ever with 35+ points (36:11)
• Giannis: 6th youngest to 21,000, needs 11 more seasons at 29 PPG to catch LeBron (31:29)
• Clippers: Outscored 47-15 (Grizz bench) and 41-5 (Mavs bench) in back-to-back games (48:03)
• Cavs: 4–3 when Garland plays, drop-off in both offense and defense (61:54)

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Tone & Style

Conversational, witty, and analytically detailed; hosts riff on stats, joke about player rituals and mishaps (e.g., Megan Thee Stallion as “Megan the Chef”), and openly vent frustrations about slow-paced games and review excesses.

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Concluding Thoughts

This episode captures a league at a crossroads—the NBA Cup is earning real buy-in, young stars are arriving, but established teams (Clippers, Cavs, Bulls) are at a crisis point. The pod blends humor, insight, and on-the-ground reactions to another wild weekend in the association.

Transcript

[J. Skeets]

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[Trey Kirby]

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[Tas Bellis]

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[J. Skeets]

Excludes Massachusetts. Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the no Dunks podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Monday, December 1st, 2025. I'm J. Skeets here in the classic factory and alongside me, as always, it's Tas Bellis.

[Tas Bellis]

What's up, everybody?

[J. Skeets]

Next to him, it's my top shot, hot boy, Trey Kirby. Hey, yo. And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer jd.

[Trey Kirby]

Hello.

[J. Skeets]

There he is. Here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hit the like button. Subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. On today's show, we're going to hit you with some NBA weekend winners and losers. But first, TAS did lose November's pick em battle. Coming in dead last. Got off to a slow start. You were 0 and 10, maybe 0 and 11 at one point. Finished strong, if we're being honest. But because you lost November, you gotta pay it off with a goatee.

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[J. Skeets]

And let's be honest, Tass looks basically identical.

[Tas Bellis]

Oh, yeah. I look exactly the same.

[J. Skeets]

Keep it.

[Tas Bellis]

I've always kept a short beard to maintain my youth.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Bellis]

And I kind of feel like I'm back in college here.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

You're clean on the sides, though.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah. Listen, left it a little bit thick right here. Yeah. I didn't go for it. It was a bit of a wuss move. I could have thinned it out a little bit. I could have gone my Zion Williamson.

[J. Skeets]

Did you think about dying it.

[Tas Bellis]

I talked about that. Yeah. I talked about that with everybody I know.

[J. Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Bellis]

But didn't have it in me. I guess I could have. I could have gone the Guy Fieri or whatever.

[Trey Kirby]

Really cool.

[Tas Bellis]

But yeah, I was a little disappointed. I thought I'd have a stronger jawline. Nope, not angular. That did not happen.

[J. Skeets]

So.

[Tas Bellis]

So here I am. But I do feel like I'm back in college. That's for sure. That was a college move for me. This is like 20 years ago. I thought I wore a shirt that I would wear in college today. So I feel like I'm back.

[J. Skeets]

Cool, man. I like that music selection. JD I thought you might go R and B.

[Tas Bellis]

Well, we didn't know what we were getting when he walked through the door, you know, So R, B evil.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. I knew he wasn't going to look evil. Un.

[Tas Bellis]

I mean, they look the same.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. Handsome as ever, my man.

[Tas Bellis]

I'd buy insurance for you.

[J. Skeets]

Okay. So look, they don't all work out incredibly. But it was exciting when you were 0 and 10011 and there was talk of Trey and I having to also do a goatee. If you ran the entire month without a win.

[Tas Bellis]

It would have been way worse if it was Trey especially.

[J. Skeets]

Oh my God.

[Tas Bellis]

With a much more thorough beard.

[Trey Kirby]

That would have definitely been a new metal.

[Tas Bellis]

That would have been easy. Did you get that idea? Actually, I've seen great metal videos on Instagram of Greeks playing metal. Like Greeks in metal band. Like men in togas in a metal band, basically. That's my rabbit hole for the evening.

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[J. Skeets]

I guess I'll know what I'll be watcher. All right, so T has a goatee. Doesn't look to that.

[Trey Kirby]

Have a good.

[J. Skeets]

But we had a couple wedgies to show you guys from the break. We've been gone a little while, so we're going back to Thanksgiving eve. And this was Malik Monk sticking the floater Wedgie. That was wedgie number 16 on the season. Oh, way to pop it in there. Good stuff. And then this was last night. This was Sunday. Another Kings player, Keegan Murray, going for the dunk. Zach Edie, I think got a piece of it. Didn't go into the play by play as a block though, or into the box score. So it's Keegan Murray's dunk attempt wedgie. And we're up to 17 on the season.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah. For podcast listeners, I just want to paint the picture of Keegan Murray gets blocked, falls to the ground, lying on the ground and then he has to look up at a wedgie. He's just like staring at it. That's awful.

[J. Skeets]

What's incredible right now too, the Sacramento Kings have five wedgies this season.

[Tas Bellis]

Wow.

[J. Skeets]

Sacramento Kings have five wins this season.

[Tas Bellis]

Wow.

[J. Skeets]

Same amount of wedgies as wins. And they have five different guys that have had a wedgie too. This is crazy. So they are carrying our wedgie number right now. What's 5 of 17? Pretty good. Percentage of the wedgies are 30 something percent. Fantastic. All right, let's get into weekend winners. We'll do losers later. Let's hear from you guys in the stream team right now, your weekend winners and losers. I'll get us started here today because I want to go back to Friday night. Tangible cup intensity is a winner of the weekend. We had four teams that were victorious Friday night, claimed group stage wins and advanced to the knockout rounds. In the east, the Magic defeated the Pistons behind a big game from Desmond Bain. They took group B. The Knicks also advanced to the knockout stage with a win over the Bucks. The Heat advance as a wild card team from the east with a three in one record. In the West, Thunder came out of group A thanks to a tight win over the Suns. Spurs got a huge139,136 road win over the Nuggets to take the group of Death. And then the wild card spot claimed by Phoenix because of a plus 31 point differential. So that's the bracket right there. Here's the schedule. We don't play these games until next week. Tuesday, December 9th and Wednesday, December 10th. So we have the east top seed Orlando. They're going to host Miami and then New York will visit Toronto following day OKC hosting Phoenix. So they play again here, which was very funny if you saw the clip of SGA and J Dub finding out about that. They were like, what? What do you mean? Anyway, followed by San Antonio playing in LA versus the Lakers. Good games on Friday night. Did you have a favorite of the bunch?

[Tas Bellis]

I gotta go. Mavs. Lakers. Considering it was an Amazon broadcast game.

[J. Skeets]

Buckslaker. Sorry, my bad. Sorry.

[Tas Bellis]

Yep. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

[J. Skeets]

I was thinking one of the games that got somebody through. But yes, Maps, Lakers continue.

[Tas Bellis]

We're talking about Luca versus the Mavs here as a big game. It's Amazon, everyone's talking about it. Luca basically said prior to this game before, after his last NBA cup game saying I slip on these courts. So the Lakers literally had to remove the court because of that. Because their superstar was doing that. He comes out, he throws an alley Oop to LeBron. I mean that looked phenomenal. Austin Reeves was dancing with Klay Thompson. That was phenomenal. Cooper Flag with his mini game, which we'll get to as a winner because he looked awesome. But this was a close game. Down to the wire. Anthony Davis with a big block. Lakers go on to win it. But I just thought that as a whole, considering Amazon prime is more of the NBA cup feature broadcaster and they have made it more of a thing this year. They hit back to back homers. Knicks, Bucks and then this one Maz Lakers. Yeah, I think that was the one that stood out to me the most.

[J. Skeets]

You surprised me with that pick because the Lakers were already moving on to the knockout stage. So I thought you'd take one of the other.

[Tas Bellis]

That's freaking Luca.

[J. Skeets]

You're right.

[Tas Bellis]

Versus the Mavs. And it turned out to be.

[J. Skeets]

And you had the cup drama, the cup court drama that you had pointed out.

[Tas Bellis]

Note last week, he has complained. I know about slippery since the start of the NBA cup since the inception in 2023. Back to back to back jams. Then they take off the court to say this superstar, he needs to have a court he doesn't slip on.

[J. Skeets]

So are they going to have the court fixed by next Wednesday when they host the Spurs? That's the question. Are they going to have rip it up? I don't know. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Sand it.

[J. Skeets]

Or they're just going to play on their normal coat court.

[Trey Kirby]

Interesting. I bet they'll probably play on their normal court.

[Tas Bellis]

It is interesting. It's all about Luca. Right. Because. Because have other guys really been complaining? I. I noted Jaylen Brown has done it once in the three years, but other than that there hasn't been many. I don't know. I don't know if there's been any other ones really. Lucas says other guys are slipping. It's not just me.

[J. Skeets]

It's more likely it's Lucas shoes than it is the slippery corner.

[Trey Kirby]

Interesting. Makes you think.

[J. Skeets]

Okay, what about you favorite game for Friday night?

[Trey Kirby]

Well, like task, I was a good consumer just watching these Amazon prime goods all day. I didn't take in the Skins game, but I did see the Bears beat the Eagles straight into the NBA cup action. It was great. The other game I would throw in the mix. Thunder Suns I thought was really awesome just because we're actually seeing the Thunder play in close games in the fourth quarter. You can even throw in if you want to their game on Wednesday against the Timberwolves, another game where Shakel just Alexander actually had to play in the fourth quarter. Suns weren't ultimately able to pull off the comeback, but they made it close. And you know, the Suns recently hadn't had very many wins against 500 teams. But they're a scrappy team, they play hard, they've given everybody fits and I thought it was interesting to see them play such a close game against each other and then they're gonna have to throw down again. Pretty exciting. Weird how the matchups work out for some of this stuff like the Knicks and the Raptors are gonna have to play again after just playing again over this weekend. It's like we can't show all of our cards and reveal our cup strategies. But yeah, I thought the Thunder to go out and win some games in the fourth quarter and they're both of their cup matchups over the weekend was pretty sweet.

[J. Skeets]

So there are eight teams obviously left with a chance to win the Cup. I want to get your opinion on who do you have winning is the obvious answer. Just run with the Thunder because they are the favorites on FanDuel minus 1.30 when I checked. Then Lakers plus 550, Magic plus 700, Knicks plus 7.50. Then it goes Raptors, Heat, spurs, the Suns long shots to win the Cup. I mean they got to get by okc of course first plus 6,000. But who would you pick to win this thing year three of the Cup?

[Tas Bellis]

I think it's going to be Knicks Thunder in the Final. The Knicks are talking about this a lot. They have noted that they respect the Cup. They got so many guys talking about it. I will take OKC though.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Bellis]

Considering they've lost one game so far this season, the Blazers couldn't take them out twice, they beat him once, they couldn't take them out on Sunday. And the Thunder have something to play for. They got to the final last year, they lost. So there's that.

[J. Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Bellis]

If it gives them a little bit of motivation. And maybe as Trey said, these close games that they've played in recently helps a little to some degree. At least they're playing for something because yeah, they've been spanking everybody and now they've had some close games too.

[J. Skeets]

Okay, taking the Thunder the favorites, are you back in OKC or are you swerving here?

[Trey Kirby]

I'm swerving. Give me the Lakers like you said, second favorite on FanDuel +550. They just got LeBron back and Hartenstein's gonna be out, I assume for a Cup matchup. Assuming that both the Lakers and the Thunder get through in their first round matchups, I would think the Thunder, they should be the favorites. You know, they're 20 and 1. They can lose in the cup final once again. It doesn't even matter. Beautiful record this year. But give me the Lakers, they're clicking right now. That game on Friday was super impressive. Integrating LeBron has been very, very smooth. No surprise this will be a huge step up in competition for the Lakers should they end up meeting the Thunder in round two of cup action. But I like the way they've been playing and it's only one game. Like if they played in a series, for sure everybody would take the Thunder. It's going to be tough to beat them four out of seven times, but beating them once, you just need to have one great game. And Luka and Reaves have been playing awesome together the entire year. Now they got LeBron back as well.

[J. Skeets]

Do you think players are caring more about the cup than they have in years prior? Equal amounts of care, less care. Like as I saw this sort of discourse going around, obviously the social media channels on Friday night, when a lot of those games were good and like, it was a lot of like stakes were in play to advance or win your group and move on. And like obviously the Pistons magic game was great, came down to the wire. Do you buy that? Do you believe it? Is this working? I guess.

[Tas Bellis]

I think so. I think the players know more about the NBA cup because they're making this more of a production, not just the Amazon TV deal. And you have as a broadcaster the now the quarterfinal, semifinals and finals because literally I can't remember if the same broadcaster had the quarterfinals, semifinals and finals last year. This year it is more of a thing. Going into Friday's broadcast, it was Taylor Rooks and four somewhat recent NBA players right beside her. And Nash, Dirk Blake and Udonis Haslin is more of a thing in arena. They talk about it more. This game is on Amazon. This game is on NBC. You can hear the in arena announcers talking about that. So everybody knows that this game, these games are, are like that. And as I said, players are talking about it more. So yeah, it's more of a thing. I think it's. I think they've made this more of an event and that was part of the whole TV deal. Let's focus on this. So yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Were any of those guys still around when the cup started? Haslam, maybe. Like maybe his last year was the first year of the Cup.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah, technically, yes, he was.

[Trey Kirby]

I wonder if he ever set foot.

[Tas Bellis]

In the cup game.

[Trey Kirby]

I wonder if he ever felt the pressure from inside the arena.

[Tas Bellis]

Did they ask him a question on the Amazon broadcast? I don't know. But did they say, hey, what does it feel like playing in the NBA Cup Matter? But he was active. But yeah, the heat, he didn't get too far anyway.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, well, everybody loves money, so that's why they're firing rich people. Yeah, even rich people. Josh Hart apparently just got robbed. So this guy really cares about the cup right now. And you hear in post game interviews with all the players, they always bring it up and it's always about the money. Even Devin Booker, he's like, I'm making $75 million, but not everybody's making $75 million. This means a lot to Nigel Hayes Davis.

[Tas Bellis]

Sure.

[Trey Kirby]

So I think as long as they keep the financial incentive, people are going to care. And Amazon paid a big pretty penny to get this. Yeah, they should raise the purse. That's how you keep them interested.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, I, I do love when they show the bench in these close games with, you know, it's on the line. It's those guys at the end of the bench are more into these games than your normal mid November, late November games. Without a doubt. Because there's a lot of money online. You can win a ton if you're not making as much as obviously Devin booker is making. 70 plus billion. A little different to him, I'm sure it goes to, I don't know, maybe, maybe he gives it away or something like that. I'm not watching your pocketbook. Don't worry. But I assume there's a lot of like sharing with the rest of the team, like the organization, ball boys, equipment managers of that nature. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. And then final thing here on the Cup, Josh Hart, you brought him up, he had a little twist to maybe raise the stakes even a little bit more when it comes to the Cup. The winner of the whole thing, he thinks you should get an advantage in the regular season standings. Quote, this is Josh Hart. I think whoever's the winner gets a half game. You get to the championship game, you get a half game if you win, if you lose the championship, it doesn't go against your record. Now you have that half game, so you have the tiebreaker and it legitimizes that NBA Cup Just a little bit more end quote thoughts on Josh Hart's idea here. Really, like, don't worry about the half game. I don't think you need to do that in the standings. It's just like you would get a tiebreaker in any situation if you win the Cup. Your thoughts?

[Tas Bellis]

I was buying into it. The only weird part is the number one tiebreaker is head to head. So let's say the Knicks played the Philadelphia 76ers. They come to the same record at the end of the year, but they played four times and the Sixers are 4 and O against the Knicks. Somehow you get a half game above them. That part is a little weird, but I kind of buy into what Josh Hart is saying.

[J. Skeets]

Right. Because it's not very drastic is what he's suggesting. So it's.

[Tas Bellis]

That's it.

[J. Skeets]

A little bit of something that could get you, I guess, from a play in into the playoffs or a seed hire or whatever, which could be big. I don't mind it.

[Tas Bellis]

You go from second seed to first seed, maybe, you know, get the cup.

[J. Skeets]

Tiebreaker rule advantage, I guess. What do you think?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I mean, I guess I would be furious if I was the 10th seed and team got lucky and won the cup in December and then they bounced me for the rest of the season. Well, kind of dumps your breaks, I guess. Yeah. Unless your player happened to be hurt during the one game that mattered. Yeah, yeah, but sure, whatever. Literally whatever. I feel like try anything for the NBA Cup. Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

I think this is. If you're going to add something. This was a better idea than I saw floating around of like if you win the cup, it like basically bumps you up a tier. Like if you win the cup, you automatically get home court advantage.

[Trey Kirby]

No way.

[J. Skeets]

If you're a postseason team or you automatically, if you're a play in team, get a home game. Yeah, I'm with you, Trey. I was like, that's. To me, that's too extreme. This I don't mind. Sure. A tiebreaker, a little incentive, I guess.

[Tas Bellis]

Or a draft pick people have thrown out there.

[Trey Kirby]

I don't think that's incentivizing, actually. Because if I'm Nigel Hayes Davis, why do I care that they're going to draft somebody to replace me?

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[Trey Kirby]

This is all based around Nigel Hayes Davis. I think he respects it.

[J. Skeets]

I think so too.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah, I thought we'd say his name more this season and I didn't know it would happen today when it comes to NBA Cup. Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

But anyway, we got eight Like, I think, okay, I think it's gonna be very difficult for the Suns to win this thing because everybody's gotta beat OKC here. But I do look at the board and go, like Trey said, it's one and done to advance. Could you sort of talk yourself into six or seven of these teams winning? Like, just going on a little magical run? I think so. These are all pretty damn good teams is my point here. There was no team that like, was really been garbage this year that just like, for whatever reason, did well in their group and got through. So I like that. I like that part. All right, let's keep it going. That's enough cup talk for now. We'll get more into that next week.

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[Tas Bellis]

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[J. Skeets]

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[Tas Bellis]

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[Trey Kirby]

Uh, Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us?

[J. Skeets]

Cut the camera.

[Tas Bellis]

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[J. Skeets]

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[Trey Kirby]

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[Tas Bellis]

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[Tas Bellis]

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[J. Skeets]

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[Trey Kirby]

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[Tas Bellis]

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[J. Skeets]

Trey Another winner of the weekend Jalen Johnson.

[Trey Kirby]

Big time winner of the weekend. Two huge games in, two Hawks wins for J.J. he doesn't have a nickname, huh?

[Tas Bellis]

No.

[Trey Kirby]

Jalen Johnson. Fun to say his full name. Triple double on Friday against Cleveland. Went for 29, 12 and 12 assists. Found Zach Richach, Nikhil Alexander Walker for back to back threes late in this one. That was pretty sweet. Also on Sunday, A career high 41 points for Jalen Johnson, a little bit aided by it being a two overtime game. He did score 12 points in the overtime periods, but also added 14 rebounds, seven assists. In the win over Philadelphia, Hawks were up eight with 46 seconds left and I thought we were going to see a team blow an eight point lead and lose like we just saw. Who was it? Suns versus Timberwolves? Like hadn't happened in 3,000 games. It did happen. Hawks gave back the eight points but Jalen saved them in the overtime periods. Had five in the first overtime, including a couple of clutch free throws to tie the game. Send it in double OT where he scored seven, hit two big threes including not including, but added a dish to Dyson Daniels underneath for basically the dagger layup. In 15 games without Trey Young, Jalen Johnson's at 24 points, a gain, 10 rebounds, 8 assists, 53 from the field, 48 from 3. Dude's awesome in transition. We know that he's getting a dunk, a big time dunk every single game. He's so big and strong it's like LeBron running the break. He's a pretty solid passer I think when he's on the move as well, but it really feels like the game has slowed down for him in the half court. He's very patient getting to his spots and he's become a really good passer, particularly in traffic. Like I think the dish to Daniels is kind of indicative of the way he's been playing. Like he draws a crowd. He gets in the lane and is strong enough with the ball to hang on to it and find a cutter. Daniels has really benefited, I think, playing as the number two guy outside of Jalen Johnson, just because with Trey Young, it's like pat. Dribble, dribble, dribble, probe, probe, probe. Find a shooter. Daniels is hitting these cuts with Johnson all the time, and it's been really, really impressive. Hawks have gone 10 and five without Trey Young. We just found out that they're going to be reevaluating him in two more weeks, so we get to see a little bit more Jalen Johnson, which I think is pretty nice for the Hawks. He's definitely an All Star right now, and I think a big part of what's going on is that he's actually been able to stay on the court for a nice stretch of games here. We've seen him show flashes of potential. He was a near All Star last year, but now that he's staying healthy after a little bout earlier in the season, he's putting it all together and becoming more than just an athlete. Like, he's a really, really solid basketball player.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah, it is absolutely slowed down for him. You can see it. Even the play that drew him, those key free throws in overtime was a slowdown and a pump fake on Dominic Barlow. And he got him. He. He got him. And as he went to the free throw line, Nick Nurse tried to ice him. He called the timeout. Jalen Johnson goes to the free throw line, no problem. Doesn't even think about it. Bang, bang. Then he hits a big shot in. In the second overtime, it was a three, and he was talking smack right to the Sixers bench. I don't think it was to Nick Nurse, but it was right to the Sixers bench. And yeah, see, he's got all the confidence in the world to slow down, whether it's at the free throw line, whether it's doing that type of thing. Yeah, that's why he looks better, because we know in transition he's fantastic. But if the game is slowing down for him, like it, like it. It definitely is. It is. It has changed with Trey Young out because he's had more responsibility, and it has been a stretcher where he's had the ball in his hands way more for a good stretch. The whole injury thing is a freaking real deal with this guy, unfortunately, because that's, that's a factor. But this team looks different. Could have been a winner of the weekend. Keel. Alexander Auker was fricking awesome in both their games. It was fun that Friday. I didn't mention that Friday game against the Cavs. That was just fun in general. That was a great NBA cup game. DeAndre Hunter back in Atlanta for the first time got a big dunk on Mo Gay. They gave him a tribute video and then he was like watching him on the bench. I don't think he liked it. I don't think he liked the tribute video at all. He's like, yeah, I played five and a half years. You were a stunk. No, he didn't think that. But I, I really wonder what was he thinking? Anyway, the Hawks look fantastic. Jalen Jonathan looks fantastic.

[J. Skeets]

Back to that Sixers Hawks game. Some weird officiating mistakes I guess. Let's call them in that one. End of regulation. The officials didn't give Nick Nurse his timeout request. He was going crazy on the sidelines trying to get a timeout with like two or three seconds left. But Paul George ended up just chucking a heave that obviously didn't go down at the fourth quarter buzzer. So they were upset about that. And then you brought it up already trying to ice Jellon Johnson in the first overtime at the line. But the officials thought Nick Nurse was challenging the call.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

So they go replay the review and it's like later determined that it is an accidental review. It's like Nick Nurse didn't ask for it. So James Capers post game has to tell like the pool reporter. Yeah. There was a miscommunication amongst the officials. We thought when Nurse called the timeout that he wanted to challenge the play. I bring all this up because the accidental review initially changed the time to 1.1 seconds left on the clock or it was going to be left on the clock. So maybe something you could do with that. But because it wasn't an actual challenge, it went back to the point three and then. So they're sort of upset about that. It was not great work there. I thought from James Capers and his crew.

[Trey Kirby]

He's trying to pull James.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. So. Yeah. But anyway the Hawks pulled it off it that.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah, it took forever.

[J. Skeets]

Oh my God.

[Trey Kirby]

Yes, it did. Oh yeah, it did.

[Tas Bellis]

And, and, and I won a five hour game.

[J. Skeets]

It felt like I truly can't believe.

[Tas Bellis]

I'll check how long it was the.

[J. Skeets]

Easiest way to help like not fix the NBA. The NBA is great. We are getting great games. But like the first thing Silver should do and we are a goddamn broken record on this show. Or at least I am specifically like obviously cut back on these reviews. Cut back on the amount of timeouts teams can call down the stretch. Like I can't I can't stand when, like, you're allowed to call back to back timeouts because you can't inbound a ball. Like. Like these games just take forever. Sometimes forever. And it's like, this should be the most exciting part of a game and it turns into the worst. And they could so easily speed it up a little bit.

[Tas Bellis]

So anyway, it was three hours.

[J. Skeets]

Hate it so much. But we watch a lot of basketball, so.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was three hours and three minutes in total double overtime. But, yeah, I guess. Yeah, but we do watch a lot of basketball. So I was wondering, as they're going to do the review and they're flipping between 0.3 seconds and 1.1 seconds. I thought I was going nuts. I thought I was getting it wrong. It's just. It is too much. And I thought maybe that helps out the 76ers. Yeah, they didn't try and challenge it, but they reviewed it. So they just gave more minutes for Jalen Johnson to sit there and hang out before he hit free throws. And I thought maybe that ice him, maybe. But he was good.

[J. Skeets]

That's what he definitely looked over at the bench.

[Trey Kirby]

You're like, yeah, he looked after after both of them. Yeah. I mean, he was wide open on both of them, so surely they were trying to heckle him. You can't make this wide open shot. No, he made them both your swishes. I think on both of them, Joel Embiid played.

[Tas Bellis]

He did.

[Trey Kirby]

Paul George played.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

And actually, yeah, I think it's the first time they all played together. Embiid looked pretty good on offense and solid. Oh, on defense. This guy gave up a lot of offensive rebounds. Mogay was running wild when Embiid was matched up on him, but at least he was back.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah, it was funny to see him sit the second overtime because he played too many minutes. You gotta sit now, in the most important part of the game, you said. But Paul George, even though he didn't have an incredible game, did come through with a huge offensive rebound for the Max E3 to tie it. So, yeah, the Sixers come through at the end of games. I guess they do it when their back is against the wall, you know, like their fourth quarter, fourth quarter team. That's who they are.

[J. Skeets]

And Maxi ended up playing 52 minutes.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, nice.

[J. Skeets]

In this one. So he should be back over 40 minutes per game, I would think.

[Trey Kirby]

Or at least 40.7.

[J. Skeets]

There we go. There you go. So I haven't had that in a long time. TK Had A short on that recently. So he's back over 40.

[Trey Kirby]

You think Monte Ellis is watching, checking the minutes logs every night.

[J. Skeets]

He's like so pissed it goes to overtime. He's like, oh, God damn it.

[Trey Kirby]

You know he's not coming out. You know what Maxi's great at is driving on the left side of the lane and then somehow slicing back and finishing with his right hand. He did it a hundred times against the Hawks. Yeah, there's like a tiny little gap and he fits through there. Must be able to jump fairs very well at the subway. Just like dive right in or just.

[Tas Bellis]

Get around the turnstile.

[J. Skeets]

You know what he'd be great at? I don't. Is it. Was it a Korean thing or a Japanese thing? It was going around for a long time. Like they hold up like a shape of a human that like a person has to like on a conveyor belt go through. Yes, look at that. Also he's good at. Was a dog trader. You see that at the Westminster Dog show. He did a couple laughs.

[Trey Kirby]

Great guy, Fascinating. Put him on every show and the NBA.

[J. Skeets]

All right, Tass, winner of the weekend. Where you want to go?

[Tas Bellis]

Well, Yanis said to Gumbo is a winner. He returned against the Knicks, no big deal. Dropped 30, 15 and eight on Friday. And then against the Brooklyn Nets, 29 points in just 19 minutes and that got him to 21,000 points. He is the sixth, sixth youngest player in NBA history to reach 21, 000 points and he wants to be the all time leading scorer. It was a great interview after the game, he's. He asked, he was asked about it. He knew immediately who the first five are. He named all of them. Wilt, MJ, Kobe, Durant, no big deal in LeBron. Yeah, of course. That's the guy I'm trying to reach. And he wants. He said that that is a goal of his. And it's not six, seven, eight years, as he said, it's four, five. And then he went back to that and he goes like four and a half. Just throwing it, throwing the numbers. Now when you look at it, I mean that would have to be a ridiculous.

[J. Skeets]

He has to average like 50 per game.

[Tas Bellis]

He would have to average 52 over five years to do it. And that's 82 games. Okay, that's impossible. Do it. This is a man who's been in the league now 13 plus years. So just, you know, theoretically it just can't happen. To do it, he'd have to play for another 11 years, average about 29 points per game. So he'd be about 42. And that's only 67 games. So. 67 games per season. So is that some time off?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Bellis]

That's not ridiculous. Well, CBS's Jasmine Wimbish, she did the math. I ain't doing the math. So we're talking about a guy who said, I'm gonna do it in four or five years. Logically, the amount of games he's playing per year, it would be 11 seasons. 11 years or so for a man who's about to turn 32 or. No, hold on.

[Trey Kirby]

I always get this wrong.

[Tas Bellis]

My man on December 6th. I know the guy's birthday, it's five days from now, but how old does he turn? I think he's. Oh, he's just turning 31. So he'll be 42 when all is said and done. If he were to get there. Well, there was the talk about him going to Europe in between or, you know, to end his career. I should say not in between. Well, if he's gonna do it all right. In between him. Yeah. Get into LeBron's 42,000. But it ain't gonna happen unless he wants to, I guess. I mean, unless he's got these legs that'll keep him into the.

[J. Skeets]

Take the bet. I'll take the bet right now. Goatee on the line. Gian not becoming the all time leading scorer in NBA history. I'm very confident in that.

[Tas Bellis]

It's unlikely. It's very unlikely. Yeah. He'd have to play too many games, but somehow it's a goal of his. All of a sudden.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, that's.

[Trey Kirby]

He scores a lot. Yeah. Dominated. Like, if he gets to go up against Danny Wolf for the next 11.

[Tas Bellis]

Years, he might be able to do it.

[J. Skeets]

If he plays Danny Wolf every night for the next 11 seasons, then maybe he gets there.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Okay, that's.

[Trey Kirby]

I think of him as so young when he came into the league. You know, he came into the starters, we measured him. Cass was talking to him. He was down for whatever. That's how you could tell he was really young. And he still got a late start. Compared to LeBron, he was still a year older than LeBron.

[J. Skeets]

Puts it in context.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Jesus.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah. And he wasn't a great scorer to start. Obviously he wasn't himself.

[J. Skeets]

But he respects the Cup. He did come back for that cup game.

[Tas Bellis]

He did come back. Even though they lost. Yeah. That was the Jalen Brunson showing that the Knicks are going to be the number one seed in the east and he's going to get some MVP votes. Knicks are starting to look like the Knicks.

[J. Skeets]

So anyway, the incredible Darvin, Ham, Tori and Prince, you know, cup run, it's over, it's dead. They had lost the game prior to. But yeah, that is dead.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah. Giannis to get to 21,000 points in his career is freaking incredible. Just, just that, that's why zoom out. He ain't getting to LeBron's 42,000, but what he has become is an incredible feat for him.

[J. Skeets]

Him. Yeah. All right. One more round.

[Trey Kirby]

He's gonna play another 11 years. It's fine. We can, we can talk about it. He'll get to 30,000 points eventually. I assume he will.

[J. Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah. Without twos, pretty impressive. Excuse me. Without many, many, many threes. It's pretty impressive for a modern day player too. What he's doing. He's about 29 fewer threes than MJ hit for his career. So he'll pass MJ, but you know.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, another round of winners. Let's go back to you.

[Trey Kirby]

Trey Cooper, flag gets a winner of the weekend for me. Scored 35 on Saturday against the Clippers, becoming the youngest player in league history to score 35 or more in a game. Unseating, you guessed it, LeBron James. He's the youngest guy since LeBron James for literally every single thing he does right now. Because he should still be in college. Yeah. Cooper flag should reclassified. Went 13 to 22 from the field, 9 of 11 from the free throw line. Made a bunch of free throws late to ice the game for Dallas on a night when they were very, very short handed. PJ Washington landed on a basketball in pregame warmups. Looks disgusting.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

But I thought this was pretty impressive from Koopa Loop. Really aggressive, looking for his shot. I thought he was super smart, the way he was attacking mismatches. They would run some sort of screen for him cause he's pretty much playing point guard. Was bringing the ball up the court for the Mavericks in this one and if Chris Paul switched onto him, get to a spot, shoot over the top. If it was Harden, use this quickness and get into the lane, get to the rim. A lot of times it was John Collins and he would just test his lateral movement. Collins couldn't hang with him. Easy mid range jumpers for Cooper. Flag also had a monster dunk on Zubots after a pick and roll, kind of froze Zubots, goes up, jams it.

[J. Skeets]

On him two handed. That was huge.

[Trey Kirby]

That was awesome. Great stuff from Cooper. Especially impressive because this came on the second night of a back to back for him and he's really struggled so far in his career. On the second night of back to backs, he was like 10 points per. In these second nights, even though he's one of the youngest dudes out there. On Friday, he had 11 assists. That's nice. It's a career high for him so far, but you heard Candace and Dwayne Wade on the broadcast the entire time saying, be more aggressive, be more aggressive, be more aggressive. Felt like too many possessions were ending with PJ Washington with the ball in his hands. I'm like, you guys can play very similar styles of basketball. How is this not Cooper that's doing the majority of the scoring? But he came out on Saturday. Mavs needed a win and he put the team on his back. Super impressive first 10 games of the season for Cooper. Flag. 14 points a game on 41% shooting. Next 10 games he's played 20 so far, 19 points per game on 51% shooting. If he starts making three pointers, he'll be at like 25 points per game. He's figured out how to play. He's really settled into the N B A and now he looks like he knows what he's doing and not just kind of freelancing out there.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah, I love the way he gets into his mid range and creates space with his body and is just comfortable shooting over most guys because he's so big and he slows things down. So yeah, he's, he's getting better and he gets better as games go on. At times he plays better fourth quarters. He plays a lot of minutes. So yeah, he's going to be the leading scorer. He's going to pass that knipple. He's going to give that concan nipple a purple canurple or whatever to pass him. That'll happen. Happen.

[J. Skeets]

Who do you have for another winner?

[Tas Bellis]

I gotta piggyback Cooper Flag and say Klay Thompson. Klay Thompson had a Thanksgiving weekend on and off the court. On the court. They don't beat the Clippers without Clay. He was monstrous in that fourth quarter. He had 17 points. He played all 12 minutes. And we had a flashback of Clay Thompson. You know, he started it by a dribble handoff three, then a cut, then a shot over Batum in the mid range. All right, so he hits a few shots and then they decided, all right, we got to put somebody on him to get a little bit more physical with him. They put Chris Dunn on him. Didn't matter. He had three threes in about three minutes to ice that game. Bang bang, bang, fourth quarter, here comes Clay. He had all 23 points in the second half against that club or team. And off the court, I mean, I mean he had the best weekend. Megan thee Stallion, his girlfriend said before Thanksgiving dinner. I'm really fine a cool. I'm really fine a cook for my man and his whole family. I gotta show them I really love they son. Then Clay said after the dinner, he said, so good. Flawless. It is the best thing I have ever tasted. Even his dad, former NBA player Michael Thompson, said the Thanksgiving dinner was the best Thanksgiving food I've ever eaten. Megan the Stallion should be Megan the chef. That's how good the food was. It was unbelievable. And Clay also unveiled a boat devoted to his girlfriend called the SS Stallion.

[J. Skeets]

Wow, that was a lot.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, the SS Stallion.

[Tas Bellis]

Yep.

[Trey Kirby]

Didn't he also say he was like questionable for this game against the Clippers because he was sick because he ate too much? Yeah, I guess so, maybe.

[Tas Bellis]

Well, he played in a back to back.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, well, I know he said he went for a swim in the ocean and decided he was going to play. The guy's awesome. It started in the third quarter too. Like he had back to back threes and then carried it into the fourth and just had Batum completely guessing. Yeah, I did like to see Megan the Stallion making a roux for her Mac and cheese. You got to make a bechamel sauce. Everybody knows that.

[Tas Bellis]

Interesting. Let me check that out.

[J. Skeets]

Was the joke though. So she wasn't really making anything and it was like catered.

[Tas Bellis]

Oh, she was cooking it. But some, some people helped. There's videos of her on the stove stirring some stuff.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, I'm sure she did make something. So I thought it was part of the damn joke though is like this entire like team coming in to help make a Thanksgiving.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I saw, I saw her stirring her roux. It was looking good. It was sticking.

[Tas Bellis]

All right, she was stirring. She wasn't wearing anything super fancy while she was stirring. So that made me believe that she was actually cooking.

[J. Skeets]

Well, Clay had a great weekend then.

[Trey Kirby]

Yes, he did. Making food for somebody is one of the greatest ways to show your love for them. Absolutely.

[Tas Bellis]

Absolutely.

[J. Skeets]

All right, have some other winners of the weekend. I have two. We'll start with the Charlotte Hornets because they ended a seven game losing streak with two wins over the weekend. So let's show them some love. They beat the Bulls 1:23, 1:16 on Friday night. And then they followed it up with an overtime win against our Raptors on Saturday. They beat the no dunks Teams over the weekend. I thought, you know, that comeback versus the Raptors on Saturday was pretty impressive. You know, Miles Bridges had a monster game, but con canymple scored 20, hit the game tying three in the corner. I don't know what Brandon Ingram was doing there. He backed up a little too much. Should have had a hand up. Knipple banged at home. I thought Colin Sexton, he's been awesome for them off the bench in these two games. James playing hard. Diabate is all hustle and it was like you had fans like basically screaming at Charles lee to put LaMelo Ball back in the game in the fourth quarter on set, but he kept the star on the bench. Now there's a minute's restriction going on with back to backs there and LaMelo coming back and all that. But he was also like, I'm running with the guys that got me here. I'm running with these guys even into the overtime period. And rightfully so. These guys are playing hard. And, you know, not only did they snap that losing streak, like I said, they got two. Two wins in a row and they got that crazy City edition.

[Trey Kirby]

Court looks good.

[J. Skeets]

The blue and then their jerseys are like a completely different color. Yeah, it did look sharp.

[Trey Kirby]

Big time shot from Knipple. Hand down, man down for Brandon Miller. Catches it, pumps fakes for Ingram. Miller does nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brandon Miller, Brandon ingram. Yeah, yeah. One for 13. Brandon Miller, he's got the Michael Porter Jr. Shoulder right now. That thing is taped up. But a big time shot for Kipple. That was a. That was really great. The guy has hit at least two clutch threes this season. Very confident, taking it. It with a K.

[Tas Bellis]

So Lamello doesn't play the last. Yeah, eight and a half minutes of the fourth quarter. Doesn't play overtime. Playing in a back to back, which he played 29 minutes night before, then 22 minutes that game. What's his minutes restriction on a second night of a back to back? I don't, I don't.

[J. Skeets]

I'm telling you, there's like a little bit of like, yeah. Minutes restriction, but also. Yeah, let's go with these guys that are playing much, much harder.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah, yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Sex. A little bit of both.

[Tas Bellis]

Sexton helps them win that game. There's no doubt.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, he has been really good over this weekend.

[Tas Bellis]

Where's my man R.J. barrett? We need him. The Raps need him. Yeah, they do.

[J. Skeets]

Also winner of the weekend, Josh Hart. You guys already brought up that he got robbed. That's not great. I guess. $185,000 in in watches and maybe some jewelry from a Manhattan hotel back in September. So he definitely wants to advance into the cup, get that money back, maybe replace some of that jewelry. Hopefully. He was insured, though, but he was awesome in two wins over the weekend for the Knicks. They beat the Bucks in that cup game. They beat the Raptors on Sunday. He's averaging over the weekend 19 and a half points per game, 13 and a half rebounds, seven assists, three steals, two threes, and he shot 54%. And he is just like, he takes over games, like, he's absolutely everywhere. He's one of my favorite players to watch because just the impact he has on a winning basketball team. It's pretty infectious, I think, to that squad. So good stuff from Josh Hart. Not great, whoever stole his jewelry. But he'll get it back. He took it in stride.

[Trey Kirby]

He'll get it back.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

I don't know if he put it in the safe in the hotel. I'm not sure. Did he leave it out? I don't know.

[Trey Kirby]

A lot of questions surrounding this.

[Tas Bellis]

They're looking their best. They're looking like the 1 seed in the Eastern Conference. I think so. Yeah. Just quick shout out for the Memphis Grizzlies. This team started their road trip with three straight wins.

[Trey Kirby]

Zach E. Zacky coming back, winner of the weekend. I think him versus Zubots was just awesome to see. He was like making Zubots look small. I think he's bigger. Like, he looks bigger and stronger, which is interesting. He didn't have a huge game against Zubots. I think he went for four points, but he had 19 boards and gave Zubots fits. And then he just dominated the little guys on Sacramento. Precious and Maxine were not able to handle the big boy grilling on the roof. 32, 17, five blocks. Box for Edie. Went 16 of 20 from the field, took one free throw. Foul him maybe.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Literally followed, bro.

[J. Skeets]

Ethical hoops right there.

[Trey Kirby]

He was just catching the ball next to the rim and just turning and shooting like. Oh, was he traveling? Roll it back. No, just beautiful footwork on this giant, man.

[J. Skeets]

That's his first. First 30 point game in the NBA, right? We saw that in college a lot, but first one in the NBA. Yeah. A definite winner the weekend. Anyone else you want to slip in there?

[Tas Bellis]

I just want to shout out Jay Huff, who scored the 14 straight points of the Pacers for the Pacers against Chicago Bulls. And that was all the points he scored. 14. Done. You know we'll get to the Bulls as a loser, but it Is funny. They left him open. Splash those threes, my man. And he had four threes. Literally the first 14 points for a team. That's rare.

[J. Skeets]

That's a lot. Yeah, maybe guard them.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Okay. That's our winners. We'll take a very quick break here. When we come back, some losers of the NBA weekend.

[Trey Kirby]

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[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

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[J. Skeets]

Okay, we've done a whole bunch of NBA weekend winners. Let's do a few losers here. Who wants to get us started? Tas, let's go with you here.

[Tas Bellis]

I guess I'm a loser for mispronouncing fina. I'm a fina.

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[Tas Bellis]

I'm a fina. Pronounce it correctly. Everybody calling me out. Listen, reading it, it's finna.

[Trey Kirby]

Yes.

[Tas Bellis]

And I have, you know, fina is closer to finally. So it makes more sense that it'd be fina. None of you calling me out because I really went hard to say say fina. Anyway, I have said fina before. I don't know why with I went with finna. It's just funner to say.

[J. Skeets]

I think thinking of sharks.

[Trey Kirby]

Wait, wait.

[Tas Bellis]

Fina is the right way to do it.

[Trey Kirby]

No, finna is the right way.

[Tas Bellis]

Oh, yeah. So I pronounced it correctly.

[Trey Kirby]

No, you said fina.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah. Oh, it's way better. Fina. Finally.

[J. Skeets]

Anyway, you're saying fine is more like finally.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Interesting.

[Tas Bellis]

I did weird. Anyway, the Los Angeles Clippers are definitely a loser. Things are getting dire. This team is 5 and 50.

[J. Skeets]

Getting dire.

[Tas Bellis]

Well, it's getting more dire. Well, they lost at home to the Memphis Grizzlies. They lost at home to the Dallas Mavericks. It's getting. It's getting worse because you can see in James Harden and the way he's doing post game interviews, it feels like the last interview he's doing with the Houston Rockets, it's a question and then an eye roll. Yeah, I mean he kept the words.

[J. Skeets]

Basically we gotta play talent.

[Tas Bellis]

Essentially sort of what he said.

[Trey Kirby]

He's finna request a trade.

[Tas Bellis]

That's the talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We will definitely get into that tomorrow on Tuesday's show where the Clippers ideally would go, where each one of those players ideally would go. Because if we're at 5 and 15 here quarter way through the season and things aren't looking good because they're just not deep offensively. I mean versus the Grizzlies, their bench lost 47 to 15. We had four Grizzlies in double digits off the bench. Aldama, KCP, Cam Spencer and Landale. And then versus the Mav, same thing happened. Their bench lost 41 to 5. They have lost 13 of 15. So tomorrow we'll be talking about where Harden can go, where Kawhi can go. Zubots, would they trade that guy? I doubt it. But we'll go all the way down the roster because they don't have an answer. It's defense and it's offense and when both of those things aren't working, Ty Lewis trying things. He's pulled Brook Lopez from the rotation. He's benched him recently, not playing at all. Chris Paul obviously doesn't look good. Bradley Beal is obviously gone for the season. So I don't know where the answer is. They're trying their young guys. Here comes Kobe Sanders. That ain't working. Offense and defense. So that's a problem. Very, very big problem.

[J. Skeets]

5 and 15 the LA Clippers, I mean preseason people had them in a tier, probably playoffs or at the very least a play in sort of squad in the loaded west. But they are a tear down from that.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, they won 50 games last year and came in with a healthy Kawhi Leonard. I definitely thought they were going to be way better. I thought they were going to be better than the Lakers and the Lakers look awesome. Meanwhile, it feels like everybody who was teetering on the edge of the cliff for the Clippers has completely fallen off. Lopez, Batum, Chris Paul, they're old. Guys look incredibly old. So that's why they don't have any offense. They're getting nothing from their support players. You throw in Beals injury, you throw in Bogdanovich's injury, now the team suddenly looks very, very thin. They're playing two guys named Kobe and neither of them can Score. They've got a very predictable offense. It's like Harden's going to be in a pick and roll or an ISO, Kawhi is going to be in an ISO or they're going to post up Zubots as soon as the play starts within three seconds, you're like, here's how the play is going to end. And that's why they're able to be so easily defended. And then we've talked about a ton of times if there's a turnover, easy basket on the other side because there's no athleticism with this team, especially with Derrick Jones Jr. Out. I even think like Chris Dunn isn't as good on defense anymore. He's just getting lost off the ball all the time. You saw it so many times with Klay Thompson. The dude's spinning around picks, literally doing a spin move on defense that doesn't work. And I don't know, they just, they look bad. So yeah, suddenly they're a trade team. I went into last year's record because they started slow last year. So I was thinking, oh, maybe they were struggling through the first 20 games and they put it together in the middle part of the season. That's what the Clippers have often done under Ty Lou. But no, they were 12 and 8 last year. So not great, but a competitive team. And right now it looks like if they get down, it looks impossible for them to dig their way out of a hole.

[J. Skeets]

Offensive rating 114.0. So 22nd in the league. Defense is even worse. They ranked 25th out of 30 teams on the defensive side. And yeah, Trey sort of speaks to what you were saying. Like they play a very slow, methodical offensive game. I think they ranked near the bottom in pace, which is not a surprise for a team that old. And maybe the offensive players that they have. But it's just so weird to me that they were so great on the defensive end last year and, and if just the complete opposite from the top five to bottom five now. Yeah, there are some main pieces, like Derrick Jones Jr. Was an important part, but a lot of the guys are still there. So for that drop off is wild and they are. They're not hitting their over under 49 and a half, I'll tell you that.

[Trey Kirby]

No, that was their pre game win streak.

[Tas Bellis]

That's right.

[J. Skeets]

All right, so Clippers are pretty obvious weekend loser. What about you, TK?

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, it's over. The Bulls are back under 500. Lost to the Hornets and the Pacers this weekend to end the month. You'll remember November 1st. The Bulls were five and oh, first place. It's December 1st and they're nine and 10. Right back where we belong. 10th place in the Eastern Conference. Just like that. Not getting as many text messages about Josh Giddy these days, huh? Defense completely falling apart. They're down to 22nd overall. It's 120 every single night. Somehow they're held the Pacers to 103. Probably because the Pacers are bad. But guess what? So are the Bulls. In the last two weeks, they've lost to the Jazz, Pelicans, Hornets, Pacers, and beat the Wizards by one. If you lose to all the worst teams in the league, what does that make you? I don't know. Vandal. Odds of flip back minus 160 to miss. To miss the playoffs. So they're favored to miss the playoffs, but still favored to make the play in their next six games. They got a chance to like get back on track. Magic, Nets, Pacers, Warriors, Hornets, Pelicans. But this team feels like they're beat before the game starts. They gave up 14 straight to Jay Huff, all on wide open shots. Like he's not playing great this season, but after he makes the first two, maybe step out. Gucci baby. They look completely confused. Booz Ellis isn't hardly doing anything right now. As soon as he makes a mistake, yank and then they bring in a worse guy. So I don't really think there's much of a solution here. But you know, if you finish with the 10th back lottery odds, the NBA gives you the first pick.

[J. Skeets]

So that's what you're hoping.

[Trey Kirby]

Things are looking up right now.

[Tas Bellis]

Interesting.

[J. Skeets]

I do remember when they were 50 and they were incredible and we talked a lot about them. You did point out maybe we're getting a little lucky when it comes to other teams shooting the ball because like they were, you know, just missing for whatever reason. Teams are just missing against your Bulls and maybe that's come back to the median a little bit more.

[Trey Kirby]

Yes, it is. They're like maybe 12 in 3 point percentage or something like that. So as long as they're not the worst, you can beat the Bulls because they're also going to give up layups. It's not just some three pointers that are happening. They got one guy on the entire roster that can play defense and it's.

[Tas Bellis]

A Coro and he's out.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tas Bellis]

He's missed a few games.

[Trey Kirby]

Pretty easy to beat people off the dribble and then score inside. Though it did take an amazing Shot from Siakam too.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, that was the place. Two guys draped all over him. Timed it absolutely perfect.

[Tas Bellis]

He did.

[J. Skeets]

That was a gorgeous game winner. Any thoughts on the Chicago Bulls? Just back to where they belong.

[Tas Bellis]

I I don't know how much Isaac Okoro really factors into the defense, but he's nice to have so hopefully he comes back. I think he's at. He should be back soonish.

[Trey Kirby]

It doesn't matter. It really doesn't. Trade season is open. Yeah, give me all those second round picks. Not getting first rounders anymore. I was giving up a first rounder from Mooch. Dude got lit up by Jay Huff. Maybe. Maybe Kobe White, since he's on a small contract, could get a first rounder and trade.

[J. Skeets]

Season is almost here.

[Trey Kirby]

Who wants them?

[J. Skeets]

Are you going back to talking about Jalen Johnson? You did say Trey Young is going to be reevaluated in two weeks. I heard you say. Yeah, it takes us right to about that December 15th date.

[Trey Kirby]

Interesting, interesting, interesting. I took note of interesting.

[J. Skeets]

All right, those are Clippers. Bulls, losers of the weekend. I will give a loser of the weekend to the the Cleveland Cavaliers. What's going on? I know the hoop collective is already, already wondering if we should panic about the Cavaliers because we are past the quarter mark of the season. They're 12 and nine. Cavaliers are in a play in spot right now. They lost to Atlanta on Friday night as we talked about. Followed it up on Sunday with a two point loss to the Celtics and they scrambled to sort of get back in that game but they fell short. And this is a team like the Knicks that we thought, oh well, they're going to sort of run away with the Eastern Conference in terms of the regular season. We won't even have to worry about talking about the Cavs until the postseason and then we'll see what they're made of. But they are struggling a lot. And you're getting quotes now from the locker room. Jalen Tyson is saying, I think we're in cruise control as a team. I think we're not hungry enough. What happened to us last year, it's a similar thing that's happening this year. We're getting ran out of the gym. We're getting beat on the glass. Toughness. It's on us to fix it. And then you got Mobley openly wondering if maybe this little frustration right now is a good thing and it forces some evolution because he had a good game against the Celtics but a lot of eyes on him. Hey man, we thought you were going to level up and you haven't. So, yeah, the CAVS here at 12 and 9. Any thoughts?

[Tas Bellis]

JALEN Tyson quotes. I mean, he's right. There's a hunger, lack of hunger there. I mean, they just don't have it. And I wonder if DeAndre Hunter will go to the bench as soon as Max Truce comes back because he's part of their rotation, he's part of their hunger. I would think so. I think that is a change that will happen when he comes back. But it is still going to be a while. So I think that's the answer. Really?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

The Cavs are missing guys. I get that. But like, you know, Mitchell's playing, Mobley's playing, Garland is back. And I know Jared Allen is important and some shooters in Maryland bad season.

[Trey Kirby]

I know.

[J. Skeets]

But yeah, my point is like, I'm tired of hearing that. Like, it's like, okay, a lot of guy, A lot of teams are missing guys and you still have a good squad. So it is weird. You're 12 and 9.

[Trey Kirby]

You don't feel the Cavs at all. No, they are not a physically imposing team. Even though they play two seven footers. Like I said, Allen is really struggling this season. The guy's like a 65% shooter for his career. He's down in the low 50s right now. I think he's way under 10 rebounds a game. We know Mobley's not a big rebounder. They're so dependent on making jump shots. They're one of the top three teams in the league in three point rate. That's fine. That's what they did last year. But they had a lot of guys who could shoot. Garland was playing the majority of the season. Mitchell was healthy for the majority of the season. Streuss was there. They had Ty jerome as a 50, 40, 90 guy coming off the bench. Lonzo hasn't been able to fill in for him. They don't really put pressure on the rim, so they gotta be making three pointers. Which is why they had the stat that I mentioned last week where it's like Donovan Mitchell has to score 35 for this team to win. He can do it sometimes, but he needs somebody else to come along with him because it doesn't feel like they have anything else that's reliable on the offensive end outside of jumpers. And then like defensively they're just not a very athletic team. Like, Mobley's a really good, versatile defender. Allen helps out at the rim, but they don't have athletes on the wing. Like, I think that's why a Team like the Raptors gave them so much trouble. You just run it down their throats, get the ball off the glass and turn defense into offense. And the Cavs don't really have a way to keep up with that. So if you're not athletic and you're not like taking it to the other team from the physicality standpoint like a team like the Rockets does, what do you really have? They seem a little bit lost to me.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. And I think from last year to this year, a glaring difference too is Garland did play a lot last year, right? Played 75 games. He helped the Cavs have the number one offense in the league. I mean, Mobley was an all NBA talent. They were the top seed as we talked about. But this year Garland has been like in and out of the lineup like four or five times already now. He's back right now, but there's no reliability with him, unfortunately because of injuries and he's struggling. I think a part of it is coming back and being injured and coming back like he's shooting 37%. Darius Garland again had a bit of a better weekend, I'll say numbers wise, so maybe that gets him going. But yeah, no one expected 12 and 9 here, like a sort of an average Cavs team despite the injuries. Even in this east with all of the injuries to top guys like Tatum and Halliburton.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah. And with Garland out, you can understand why your offense might not be great, but there is no reason that their defense should drop off the way it is. They just, it just shouldn't. And Alan not being himself is a factor, there's no doubt. And I do think DeAndre Hunter will go to the bench ASAP. I, I know that prior to the season I, I mentioned how Kenny ATKINSON really endorsed DeAndre Hunter and what a great offense or what great off season he had because his offense looked great and he's scoring fine. But I do think his lack of spacing that he provides hurts Evan Mobley. He should be out there shooting threes and he's not shooting them very well. His percentage is very bad in comparison to his two point shooting. You know, he's a 33% shooting three point shooter. And that's where Max Juice, I think would help out a little bit just to stretch it out and to give the guys a little bit more space and just to increase that hunger level which yeah, they. There is something with Garland out, Allen not himself in that starting lineup, I don't know.

[Trey Kirby]

Garland is kind of the key for this team because he sets up Allen and he sets up Mobley and he's really good at getting into the paint and creating for others. He's their most creative playmaker and passer for sure. Like Mitchell. I think that's part of the reason he's taken so many threes this year, too, is there's just a glut of people hanging out in the paint and there's nobody to make plays for other people. So I think it is encouraging that Garland had a couple of good games over the weekend. They just need him to stay on the court for a month straight so they can actually start building some sort of a rhythm and figure out their rotations. Letting him play as the number one guy alongside either Mobley or Allen, setting them up and letting them impose themselves.

[J. Skeets]

I do remember Kenny Atkinson saying, like earlier on, and they didn't come out of the gate like, super high. He's like, you know, give it. Give it a quarter of the season. Give it 25 games. Until you really make an assessment of our team. Well, we're basically there. We're coming up on that sort of this week or the next, so we'll see if. Are they a team potentially in sort of trade talks and moving one other bigs, like, probably would be like Allen. I don't think we'll get to the Garland and Mitchell split up yet that we talked about prior to the awesome year last year. But maybe the Jared Allen. Yeah, he's been. He's been bad when he's playing and he's going to miss, I think still another week or something with Fingy. He's got a banged up Fingy, I think. Yeah, I think.

[Trey Kirby]

Didn't it just happen?

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, just happened. He's gonna miss a week is what I'm saying. Yeah.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah. When Garland plays, they're 4 and 3 this season. So you can look at that and say, okay, when he plays, we're a lot better. And that's totally true. But they, they have lost. Just. Yeah, that camaraderie. That's what Michael Jordan talked about when he was interviewed by Mike Tirico. We just need to play together. And that's a part of it. There's no doubt Garland is their best playmaker. As good as Donovan Mitchell is, he gets in there and makes things happen. And unfortunately, Mobley hasn't been the guy to just turn it on and create for himself. To have a. A go to put it on the floor, spin move. It ain't there yet. Even though he's putting up the numbers and he's Good defensively. Yeah, they've lost their. Their charisma. This ain't the same Cavs team.

[J. Skeets]

All right, those are our winners and losers of the weekend. Let's hear who we missed. Let us know in the YouTube comments of the night. Unsullied by sponsorship since Wednesday. So many great nominees for Whoa Boy Fantasy line of the night. We've mentioned a lot of them when we've been talking about winners. Zach Eady, 32.17 boards, five blocks, huge. The Lakers duo of Luka Doncic and Austin Reeves. These guys are on fire. They both had monster games on Sunday. Maxey, Jalen Johnson, Peyton Pritchard all scored over 40. But the whoa boy in a loss doesn't matter goes to Denny Avdia, who recorded his fourth career triple double, racking up game highs of 31 points, 19 rebounds, 10 assists in the Blazers loss to OKC. Now, he shot just 6 of 14 from the field. He hit a lot of free throws. 19 of 23 at the free throw line.

[Trey Kirby]

He's a free throw guy.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, yeah. He likes to barrel into guys. And he was getting the whistle. He was getting super superstar whistle. I thought that was a bit of an unwatchable game. Thunder Blazers. There was a lot of whistles, but he had one steal, only one turnover in 37 minutes. So Denny Aia. Getting, getting. Whoa, boy. There was, like I said, a lot of guys to pick from, like five or six guys from Sunday.

[Tas Bellis]

He's had four triple doubles now in his career. They've all been 30 point games.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, interesting.

[Tas Bellis]

Only the second player in NBA history to score 30 plus points in each of his first four career triple doubles. That's a lot of boards. Who's the other one? A 30 point.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, you don't have it?

[Tas Bellis]

No, I don't.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, okay.

[Tas Bellis]

I just have ESPN stats.

[J. Skeets]

Like maybe, maybe.

[Tas Bellis]

It's a weird one. That's weird to see Denny doing it. I mean, as. As good as he is, he's a driver and the ball is in his hands and he's driving. And they tried, they tried to knock off okc. It is weird to see OKC in a clutch game.

[Trey Kirby]

Game.

[Tas Bellis]

It's just strange. Then Shay takes over.

[J. Skeets]

Just takes over. Like he went like four or five, had an assist inside. Beautiful pass to Chad Holmgren underneath. Just completely took over the game. Not a lot of free throws either. In the clutch for him. He was getting to his spot, getting his jumper.

[Tas Bellis]

Yes.

[J. Skeets]

They play some fun games at Blazers.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

How many games you think Shay has not been the leader in Free throw attempts. It's got to be in like the last three years since he's been MVP level.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, I bet.

[Trey Kirby]

I bet it's less than five.

[J. Skeets]

Wow. Less than five.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, it takes a ton of free throws. Yeah, but he took 12 last night. That's the most on any team in almost any other game.

[Tas Bellis]

True, true.

[Trey Kirby]

We'll have to ask ESPN stats and info after they pull that one about the 30 point triple doubles first. Yeah, probably Wilt Chamberlain.

[Tas Bellis]

I guess it just probably is. Yeah, I'd go with that. Another statistic about Shea. He scores more than half of their clutch points, which isn't surprising when you say it like that when it's Shay, but that's not been done. I think Tom Haberstrough threw this out there, but that's not done. Rarely at all that a team has a guy shoot score over 50% of their clutch points.

[J. Skeets]

Huge.

[Tas Bellis]

Yeah, that's a big, big number.

[J. Skeets]

Are you telling me he's going to win clutch player of the year? Probably.

[Tas Bellis]

Now that they're playing more of them.

[Trey Kirby]

Could be.

[J. Skeets]

All right, pick them. Tonight we're all 0 and 0 again for the month of December. We got to figure out what we're putting on the line. What are we going to be paying off? If you have a suggestion, let's let us know in the comments as we figure out who will be doing what at the end of the month. Whoever's in last place. But we're 00 tonight. Where we going?

[Tas Bellis]

We're going to Denver. Denver hosting Dallas and they are a 10 and a half point favorite. Seems like a bit of a big line as guys who are into every single night in the NBA. Dallas is playing better. So that's why it's a little surprising. You zoom out. A lot of people who are betting will just say, well, if the Nuggets are a way better team, that makes sense. But they do kind of play down to their competition a little bit and that's why I. That's why I took the Mavs. Skeets, you're in the same boat.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, I think, I think they can lose by 10 or less. Could be one of these classic backdoor covers even here tonight.

[Tas Bellis]

But it is Jokic versus Anthony Davis. Jokic Jones ad. Yeah, so maybe, maybe as a Giant performance. But. But they're lacking a couple starters obviously, so that is a problem for them.

[J. Skeets]

But a couple very important defensive starters. Yeah. In AG and Brown. Okay, so you got the Nuggets winning by a lot still.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. I mean the line is so big it makes you wonder is Anthony Davis gonna play? He didn't play on Saturday against the Clippers. Second night of a back to back, but had a day off.

[Tas Bellis]

I don't know.

[Trey Kirby]

This is maybe too big of a line.

[J. Skeets]

Who knows, man? Let's see who knows. All right, Trey's got the Nuggets. I gotta win by 11 or more. We need a closer game and we'll get off to a good start here. Hopefully in December. What else we got tonight? Hawks pistons at 7 o'. Clock. It's good sounding game in Detroit. Clippers. He, that's the Norman Powell revenge game. What will Norm go for? Bull's magic is on Peacock. TK Your team at the perfect time is on Peacock.

[Trey Kirby]

Hopefully Vuch gets a video tribute years after, years later. Yeah, he deserves it, man. Second all time leading scorer in Magic history.

[Tas Bellis]

This weekend we had a DeAndre hunter, we had a Duncan Robinson and a Kevon Ludi tribute videos. Come on. Looney definitely should get one. This is a three time champ.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tas Bellis]

The other two, the other two. Everybody gets one.

[J. Skeets]

Everybody gets one. Suns Lakers is the second game on Peacock tonight. That's right. That's at 10 o'. Clock. Suns have a very, very difficult stretch. They are playing the best teams in the Western Conference now. They got off to a great start. They've been competitive even in some of the losses to some of the other good teams. But that's gonna be a tough one there. But hopefully a good one on the cock. All right, before we go, it's Cyber Monday today, eh? Hey, cool. Yeah. I tell you that because breaking T who obviously help us with our T shirts. Go to no Dunks.com to see all of our no Dunks merch. 20% off all no Dunks items today. Again at nodunks.com by way of breaking TV. Use the code CYBER Monday. All one word CYBER Monday and you'll get 20 off. So if you've been thinking about picking up something from the no Dunk store, maybe a holiday gift with that right around the corner. Now I would go purchase something today and use that discount.

[Trey Kirby]

I'm finna order something.

[J. Skeets]

Did you order anything for Black Friday or maybe Cyber Monday already?

[Trey Kirby]

I ordered a sander.

[J. Skeets]

Wow. Yeah. What are you sending my man?

[Trey Kirby]

The Lakers cup court. I thought of that joke like an hour. I can't believe I remembered it. Yeah, they need some grips.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, you. Did you buy anything? What the hell?

[Tas Bellis]

The Lakers cuffs are. Yeah, that was you. Oh, I need. Yeah, I just needed to hear Finn do it again.

[J. Skeets]

Again.

[Tas Bellis]

What does it sound like?

[J. Skeets]

Thinner. Thinner.

[Tas Bellis]

And you said, still can't believe it. I said it all. I said it all.

[J. Skeets]

Well, that's what happens when you got a goatee, man. A little discombobulated, sure. That's what happens when you look exactly.

[Trey Kirby]

The same when your cheeks are bare.

[J. Skeets]

All right, Clipper bros, you heard it here first.

[Trey Kirby]

Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome.

[Tas Bellis]

Thanks for joining us. And remember, I'm missing hair on my face. Jaylen Brown is missing hair on his head. I thought a loser of the weekend had to be Jaylen Brown because after Minnesota, Boston, game over, Rudy Gobert goes and shakes his hand and, like, points at his head and was talking about his hairline. You got Rudy Gobert noting something like that.

[J. Skeets]

He was saying, shave it. Was he not like, look at me, like, because he's cropped down now. Probably Rudy, no hair. It's got no fire brace a day, people go bare.

[Tas Bellis]

Like my head. Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first, There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[Trey Kirby]

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[Tas Bellis]

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[Trey Kirby]

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[Tas Bellis]

Oh, boy. Where do I even start?

[J. Skeets]

Start with these performance mesh boxer briefs.

[Tas Bellis]

These boxer briefs are like a magician's trick.

[Trey Kirby]

You know the one where you go.

[Tas Bellis]

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[J. Skeets]

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[Trey Kirby]

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[Tas Bellis]

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