Opening Night Overreactions & Breaking News About NBA's Illegal Betting Investigation

Summary

No Dunks Podcast Summary

Episode: Opening Night Overreactions & Breaking News About NBA's Illegal Betting Investigation
Date: October 23, 2025
Hosts: Jay Skeets, Tas Melis, Trey Kirby, JD

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Episode Overview

The No Dunks crew dives into a jam-packed episode featuring two central themes:

1. A major breaking news story about NBA figures (Trail Blazers head coach Chauncey Billups, Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier, and Cavs assistant Damon Jones) being arrested in a federal illegal gambling probe.
2. Classic opening night NBA overreactions using their “It’s just one game, but…” draft format, dissecting huge first-night performances, shocking team storylines, and memorable moments.

The show is equal parts fast-paced basketball analysis, irreverent humor, and genuine surprise at how wild the NBA’s opening night and off-court drama already is.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking News: NBA Illegal Gambling Investigation

• [03:08–10:08]
  The pod opens with the bombshell news:
  • Chauncey Billups (Blazers coach), Terry Rozier (Heat guard), and Damon Jones (Cavs assistant) arrested in connection with separate but possibly related illegal gambling operations.
  • The Rozier case focuses on suspicious prop bet activity in March 2023; previously cleared by the NBA, now arrested by federal authorities, raising questions about the league’s investigative process.
  • Billups and Jones are linked to an illegal poker operation tied to the Mafia.
  • Hosts clarify No Dunks’ partnership with FanDuel for transparency and “get ahead” of the potential conflict-of-interest conversation.
  • Skeets: “I bring that up… We understand why you might roll your eyes at us talking about sports gambling investigations. …We’re not naive.”
  • Trey notes the oddity: "He went from under investigation to the NBA clearing him… and now he’s getting arrested by the FBI? That’s just odd to me." (06:08)
  • They emphasize the critical distinction between betting on poker and NBA games; the latter carries the “Pete Rose” legacy of undermining the league's integrity.
  • Context: As news breaks live, the crew awaits more information from an ongoing press conference, musing about possible links, the media’s appetite for big headlines, and parallels to past NBA gambling scandals (Gilbert Arenas, Malik Beasley investigations).

2. NBA Opening Night: “It’s Just One Game, But…” Overreactions - Key Draft Picks

Victor Wembanyama as MVP Favorite

• [11:55–17:10]
  • Opening pick: “It’s just one game, but Victor Wembanyama is the MVP of the league.”
  • Wemby’s Line: 40 points, 15 rebounds, 3 blocks, dazzling highlight plays against bigs like Anthony Davis.
  • Trey Kirby: “Show your kids… We haven’t ever seen anything like this.” (12:46)
  • Tas: “We have entered the Victor Wembanyama era. …He is getting better. He’s going to be one of the best players in the league for a long time.” (14:12)
  • Praise for his improved handles, shot, and comfort level on the court; the panel jokes he could be both MVP and Most Improved.
  • Major takeaway: The league’s new era has officially arrived.

Ja Morant’s Return to MVP Conversation

• [17:18–22:31]
  • “It’s just one game, but Ja Morant is at the MVP table.”
  • Ja’s Line: 35 points, 4th time with 30+ points in a season opener.
  • Tas: “Frankly, he needs a bounce-back year… but he was freaking spectacular last night too.” (17:23)
  • Discussion of Morant’s talent, the Grizzlies’ newly deep bench, and the possibility of returning to league superstardom after a turbulent period.

Toronto Raptors: Must-Watch League Pass Team

• [25:03–31:47]
  • Skeets (after witnessing in person): “Add the Raptors to your must watch League Pass list. This team is electric.”
  • Raptors crush Hawks with 34 fast break points, 86 points in the paint, and frenetic bench energy.
  • Trey: The Hawks' defense was abysmal—“If they’re gonna play defense like this, it’s going to be high scoring games.”
  • The Raptors hand out a defensive “cobra stick” postgame; Grady Dick’s performance, Jamal Shead’s hustle, and the depth of the bench are highlighted.
  • Notable Humor: On a lost bet, Trey is forced to eat a cold, wet hot dog live ("raw dog"), which quickly becomes a running (and gross) joke.

Chicago Bulls: “The Bulls Are Back!”

• [35:05–38:46]
  • “Did they blow a 23 point lead? Absolutely… Did they also win their opener for the first time in three years? Yup.”
  • Matas Buzelis’ “all-star campaign” begins, Vucevic dominates, Josh Giddy solid, Pistons’ rookies show promise (“Ron Holland changed the game").
  • Amusing on-air raw hot dog eating persists.

VJ Edgecombe: Sixers’ Future—and Rookie of the Year?

• [39:57–43:15]
  • “VJ Edgecombe is the best player on the Philadelphia 76ers and going to win Rookie of the Year.”
  • Edgecombe: 34-point rookie debut (Sixers record), five threes, highlights his elite athleticism and immediate impact.
  • Tas: “He’ll be in the running here. Absolutely. He’s so fun to watch…” (41:41)
  • Tyrese Maxey’s big night gets briefly overshadowed.

Orlando Magic: Offensive Breakout

• [45:02–48:23]
  • “It’s just one game, but the Magic are flamethrowers.”
  • They shoot 40% from three (versus bottom-10 offenses 13 years running), blow past the Heat, and get production from Bane, Franz, Paolo, and Desmond Bane.
  • “Just average three point shooting could level them up.”

New York Knicks: True Contenders in the East

• [54:53–56:31]
  • “It’s just one game, but the Knicks are winning the Eastern Conference.”
  • Offense looks entirely different under Mike Brown: more pace, more scorers, deeper rotation.
  • OG Anunoby and Bridges handle the ball, Brunson off-ball, Cat (Karl-Anthony Towns) in sync.

Clippers: Too Old or Just Out of Sync?

• [58:36–63:38]
  • “It’s just one game, but Steve Ballmer is selling the Clippers.”
  • Not literal, but doubt about the roster’s age and fit after getting demolished by the Jazz—outscored 43–19 in the 1st quarter.
  • Utah’s rookies Bryce Sensabaugh and Kessler shine.
  • Trey: “They look old, that’s for sure. You know, Chris Paul’s 40 years old, Brook Lopez, he’s old and slow.” (60:47)

Charlotte Hornets: Back with New Life

• [63:38–66:44]
  • “The Hornets got their buzz back.”
  • Arena renovations, rookie starters, and big nights from Brandon Miller and LaMelo Ball energize the fanbase.

Anthony Edwards: Scoring Title Incoming?

• [67:22–70:13]
  • “It’s just one game, but Anthony Edwards can’t be guarded.”
  • 41 points against all-defense wings, looks primed for a huge year; questions linger about the Wolves’ guard rotation.

Giannis: Still the Franchise—But Is This a Make-or-Break Season?

• [70:52–74:39]
  • “It’s just one game but… Giannis is playing his last season in the NBA.” (Obviously a wild overreaction.)
  • Triggered by a 10-second free throw violation call on opening night; segues into talk about Bucks’ shooter-heavy lineups and Lillard’s absence.

Phoenix Suns: Ceremonial Free Throw Tradition

• [74:39–77:41]
  • Matt Ishbia brings out Amar’e Stoudemire for a “first free throw” ceremony—misses (“Think MLB first pitch”). Team rallies from a 17-point deficit to win.
  • Suggests NBA teams should keep the tradition; crew points out the fun, the pressure, and the bad omens if the Suns had lost.

3. Around the Horn: Other Notes & Humorous Highlights

• Running Hot Dog Bit: Trey must eat a raw (cold) hot dog after losing a bet—sparking talk of taste, texture, and cold meat aversion.
• “Mukbangs”: Segment joking about whether the No Dunks crew should do competitive eating streams.
• All-Star International Rules: Extended riff on which players are eligible for new “Team International” All-Star Game format.
• Raptors’ “Cobra Stick” & “Spinner Chain”: New postgame awards for defense and offense (Debate: How do you travel with a cobra staff?).
• Broadcast Goofs: From Dominique Wilkins’ voice cracks to misnaming players (Paul George as “Aaron George”).
• Jerseys & Arena Renovations: Observations on Vancouver-style Grizzlies trim, Hornets’ new vibe, and the impact of stadium upgrades.
• Meta: Multiple jokes at their own expense for getting sidetracked and going long (“We are just innocent men!”).

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Notable Quotes & Timestamp Highlights

• On Gambling Scandal Transparency:
  • Skeets: “If you are one of those people [worried about FanDuel sponsorship], that’s fine. …Just wanted to be clear.” [03:12]
• On Wembanyama:
  • Trey: “Show your kids… You’re going to want to see that this has happened. We haven’t ever seen anything like this.” [12:46]
  • Tas: “We have entered the Victor Wembanyama era.” [14:12]
• On Raptors’ Style:
  • Skeets: “This team is electric… They were just pinging that ball around with 36 assists.” [25:03]
• On Ja Morant:
  • Tas: "He needs a bounce back year. ...He was freaking spectacular last night too." [17:23]
• On Ja’s Past:
  • Jay Skeets: “...When the gun drama happened, it was like, oh, no, what are you doing? We were ready to… we were giving you the keys.” [19:52]
• On Eating Raw Hot Dogs:
  • Trey: “Why are hot dogs so wet, huh? ...I don't like this at all.” [32:53]
• On Edgecombe’s Debut:
  • Tas: “He’ll be in the running [for ROY]. Absolutely. He’s so fun to watch…” [41:41]
• On the Knicks’ Offense:
  • Trey: “The Knicks looked quite different. ...That was the mandate for Mike Brown: play more guys, get more synergy.” [56:31]
• On Clippers Being Old:
  • Trey: “They look old, that's for sure. Chris Paul's 40; Brook Lopez, he's old and slow." [60:47]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 01:43 – Show intro, cast introductions, and FanDuel disclosure

• 03:08 – Breaking news: NBA gambling investigation

• 11:55 – “It’s just one game, but…” Opening night overreactions drafted

  • 11:55 Wembanyama segment
  • 17:18 Ja Morant and Grizzlies
  • 25:03 Raptors vs Hawks
  • 35:05 Bulls (plus hot dog payoff)
  • 39:57 Edgecombe Sixers debut/ROY
  • 45:02 Orlando Magic breakout
  • 54:53 Knicks and Mike Brown’s offense
  • 58:36 Clippers, Jazz, and “are they washed?”
  • 63:38 Hornets’ new energy and Buzz
  • 67:22 Anthony Edwards’ scoring outburst
  • 70:52 Bucks, Giannis, free-throw violation
  • 74:39 Suns’ ceremonial free throw idea

• 79:26 – Quick Picks, closing thoughts, merch plug, more hot dog banter

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Episode Tone & Style

• Casual, fast-paced, packed with witty banter and self-deprecating humor.
• Mix of sharp basketball analysis and playful nonsense (hot dogs, mascot takes, mukbangs).
• Willingness to break down real-world NBA news seriously, yet flip to irreverence at any moment.

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Final Takeaways

• Opening night saw extraordinary performances—rookies and stars alike—fueling rapid-fire, wild overreactions (in classic No Dunks style).
• NBA faces urgent off-court questions with its gambling investigation scandal, which the crew handled with transparency and honesty.
• Raw hot dogs, ceremonial free throws, and deep-cut jersey/arena lore kept this episode both insightful and bizarrely fun.
• As Skeets put it: “The league just feels like it is at its height in terms of play… and then boom, boom, boom, at 6am, two men in the NBA are arrested.” [78:38]

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For all the wild details, classic No Dunks humor, and the latest NBA news, this episode is a must for any basketball fan.

Transcript

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[Jay Skeets]

Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the no Dunks podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Thursday, October 23rd, 2025. I'm Jay Skeets here in the classic factory and alongside me, as always, Tas Melis.

[Scott Hansen]

I'm smiling. A real opening night happened last night. Yeah, basketball's back, baby.

[Jay Skeets]

Next to him, it's my top shot. Hot boy. The conductor, Trey Kirby Ayo.

[Scott Hansen]

Hey.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, and over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer jd. Hello. There he is. Here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hit the like button. Subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. Yeah, we got a whole lot to Talk about today. JD's sitting down over in the producer's booth.

[Scott Hansen]

That's right.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, he knows it's gonna be a chunky one. So on today's show, we're gonna play. It's just one game. But where we overreact to all of these openers, for a lot of these teams Last night? Always. Yeah. But before that, we had some breaking news this morning that had our company Slack channel dropping the WTF's and the eye emojis. Everybody going nuts. Now, I want to say full disclosure right before we get into this news. I just said it. It's recent news. In no dunks world, we have partnered with FanDuel. I bring that up for a couple reasons. One, they have no editorial say in our show. It's just after 10am we can say whatever the hell we want. Jizz. Okay, interesting choice, but, yeah, you're gonna see FanDuel watermarks on our social content, on our thumbnails, obviously, when it comes to pick', em, which we've done for 20 years. But we also understand why you might roll your eyes at us talking about sports gambling investigations. We're not naive to that fact. So if you are one of those people, that's fine. You know, you can skip this. You can turn us off. We get it. Just wanted to be clear. Okay? Getting ahead of it, as they say. Jizz. We can say jizz.

[Trey Kirby]

We can say it as many times as we want.

[Jay Skeets]

After 10am do any of those fuckers come out of the wall? Okay, I've got him right now. You don't remember that sketch from. I think you should leave.

[Scott Hansen]

Come on.

[Jay Skeets]

The Adult Ghost Tour.

[Scott Hansen]

Oh, Ghost Tour. No, no, no, no. I didn't see that one.

[Trey Kirby]

Unfortunately, my dad is watching right now. He's wearing the same shirt as me, so I can't say big fat low to come.

[Scott Hansen]

Listen, we'll get to VJ later.

[Jay Skeets]

I love you very much. Pew. Okay. Sorry, Steve. I wanted to lighten the mood a little bit here. I thought Jizz would do the trick. Okay, so here's the news this morning. Trailblazers coach Chauncey Billups and Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier were arrested this morning as part of a pair of investigations related to illegal gambling. Damon Jones, assistant Cavs coach Damon Jones, also a part of these investigations. Here's what we know right now, because I think there's a press conference happening this very minute. Rozier was arrested today in Florida. His name has been in the news for a while now after sportsbooks in multiple states flagged suspicious betting interest on his prop bets in a March 2023 game. What's going on here? Why all this money coming in on Terry Rozier? Right, so there's that. Billup's arrest in Oregon. Oregon, excuse me, was made as part of a separate but related illegal gambling case linked to an illegal poker operation tied to the Mafia. That's according to ABC News report. And I think Damon Jones is linked to the Billups part of all of this.

[Trey Kirby]

That's what it seems like.

[Jay Skeets]

Right. So again, Terry Rozier arrested right now for a federal investigation into sports betting. Billups and Damon Jones arrested for a federal investigation into illegal poker games, I guess a la Gilbert Arenas, you know, and he was alleged to have been a part of that.

[Scott Hansen]

Right.

[Jay Skeets]

That's what we know.

[Scott Hansen]

That's all we know.

[Jay Skeets]

Do you have anything else to add?

[Scott Hansen]

I think we'll add plenty tomorrow on Friday's show when we do the weekly worst of the week. I'm sure that would jumble in. But let's hear what this press conference has to say. What's going on with everything, because all we know is what you just said.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Scott Hansen]

And I'm not going to say every word that you just said because that would be appropriate. No, the J word. Can't say that. No. But yeah, let's literally. It's literally happening right now.

[Jay Skeets]

Anything to add?

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, I think the Chauncey Billups part of it is the bigger shocker.

[Jay Skeets]

Right.

[Trey Kirby]

Because at least there was a Terry Rosier investigation before. I think it's a little odd that he went from under investigation to the NBA clearing him.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Saying that they found he wasn't violating any of their bylaws and now he's getting arrested by the FBI. That's just odd to me. I wonder how that's happening. And then the Billups part of it. A coach is way different than a player to me, especially a guy who's literally in the hall of Fame. Pete Rose.

[Jay Skeets]

Ish. Yeah. Okay. But we're going to learn a whole lot more here. But the whole Billups thing is interesting to me because you see the headlines. Hell, you see it on the screen right now. Everybody's putting Billups and Terry Rozier into the headline about this illegal gambling activity. And I think we all immediately go to, oh my God, Chauncey Billups was betting on games too, because of the Terry Rozier of it all. But then we're learning. No, maybe that's not the case. Like I. It almost sort of sucks for him if it is just. And it's still illegal, the gambling, poker gambling. Because that's completely different in my books than a coach or a player betting on his own team or his own prop bets.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. We'll see the details. But it definitely is two entirely different things.

[Jay Skeets]

But people are calling them Chauncey Bet slips here in the Stream team and it's like he wasn't from what we know, even I don't think he was a part of that. Part of this.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. Yeah. Gilbert Arenas, for anyone who missed this story, this was a few months ago now. He was arrested because he was involved with illegal poker games. Now released after that.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Scott Hansen]

Does Chauncey Billups and his tie to poker games and the Mafia, as these reports are, would lead you to believe have anything to do with Gilbert Arenas or poker games around the NBA in general, including Damon Jones? So there's lots of questions there, but it's entirely separate, it's exclusive from what is happening with Terry Rozier at this point.

[Jay Skeets]

Do you care at all if a grown man is illegally or not gambling when it comes to poker? Because I don't.

[Trey Kirby]

I played in a $50 cash game this summer. I'll admit it.

[Jay Skeets]

So I'm just again, I bring that up because it's quite different to me than actually betting on NBA games, which. Yeah, that to me is illegal. Obviously questions your whole character and all that like the Pete Rose of it all. Those are two totally entirely different things to me. But, but Billups is in this headline because with Terry Rozier here. But maybe it's all linked together for all we know or I know.

[Scott Hansen]

Well, it's linked because people are just more likely to make a headline which gets more attention. Is that why they're linked? It's really.

[Jay Skeets]

We're talking the timing of it is why they're linked. They both happened this morning.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. We're talking about editors and who they're deciding, who they're deciding to put in a headline. That's all it really. That's the only link really.

[Jay Skeets]

Unless we learn that all of the mafia and the legal poker games and also the illegal, alleged illegal betting on yourself within games with Rosier, that could all be one web.

[Trey Kirby]

It's all going to be part of the same press conference at the very least.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. And that's why. I guess.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

And I mean the podium is empty right now.

[Scott Hansen]

Oh, okay.

[Trey Kirby]

We'll see what they say. But it's supposed to be an update on both parts of this. The Rosiers side of things and then the Billups, Damon Jones side of things as well.

[Jay Skeets]

And then where does Malik will fall into all this?

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. The odd part was that Terry Rosier was released, deemed innocent by the NBA according to investigations months ago that went on for years, literal years. And then Malik Beasley still under NBA investigation. Literally still under NBA investigation. So is he tied in here as a free agent with the Detroit Pistons, which makes a little bit more logical sense. Okay. He's a free agent. There's a reason for that. Everybody's waiting to see because he literally could have signed a giant contract with the Detroit Pistons. But.

[Jay Skeets]

But Terry Rozier could have played last night in the NBA for the Miami Heat. It was a coach's decision. He didn't play. Maybe. I don't know. Did they know this was coming? Who knows? But he didn't play. But he could have.

[Trey Kirby]

He could have.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. Wild.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. We'll wait to see where this all goes. It's. It's wild. I immediately thought of yesterday's show when you were wondering, was Adam Silver crying in OKC during the ring ceremony? You brought that up.

[Scott Hansen]

Was he trying to cry? Yeah. You think he knew?

[Jay Skeets]

He maybe knew this was right around the corner. Look, I mean, we can joke about it. These are not headlines. Adam Silver, the NBA wants.

[Trey Kirby]

Definitely not. Gosh, no.

[Scott Hansen]

Does he want them? No.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. No. That would make him tearful. Possibly.

[Trey Kirby]

They're at the podium.

[Jay Skeets]

All right.

[Trey Kirby]

They're wearing jackets.

[Jay Skeets]

We need somebody on it. Somebody in the stream team. Transcribe everything from this press conference that's going to happen.

[Scott Hansen]

Nobody from the NBA is at this press conference, though. At the podium.

[Trey Kirby]

Doesn't look like anybody I recognize. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. This. I was going to say this isn't Joe Dumars on the case, but he works for the Pelicans now. I don't know who's in charge for the NBA investigation. I know they have their lawyers and stuff. Okay, let's get into the actual point of today's podcast. Talking basketball. Yeah, it's just one game, but. And we're drafting this here, so opening night is for overreactions. So that's why we're playing. It's just one game, but we're drafting extreme takeaways after last night's 12 game slate. Apologies in advance for not getting to everything, though. I think we touch on a lot of the games, but maybe not every angle or every team. It's a long season. We're just normal men. We're just innocent men. Okay, so we'll get to your teams eventually.

[Scott Hansen]

You're claiming innocence. You never know. Hash, Pat, knock.

[Jay Skeets]

I'm gonna start betting on our Thursday night games. For sure. Our hoops pick up games. Okay. Trey, you have the number one pick when it comes to. It's just one game, but where you want to go.

[Trey Kirby]

It's just one game, but Victor Wembanyama is the MVP of the league. Sorry. Not an overreaction. Arrest me for it if you want. 40 points, 15 boards, one assists, one steal and a measly three blocks for Victor last night. You've never seen anything like this even prior. Victor Wembanyama is not like this. He took 11 free throws last night, took two threes. And one of his threes that he took was the most unbelievable sequence you'll see in the NBA this year. Unless he does something to top it. Volleyball spikes, a Derek Lively floater Victor had his back to Lively, turns around, smashes it straight to the ground, goes to the guard, brings it, gives it to Victor. He brings the ball up the court. Between the legs, between the legs. Crossover behind the back, step back. Three pointer and one. Show your kids.

[Jay Skeets]

Show your kids.

[Trey Kirby]

Literally show your. You're going to want to see this. You're going to want to see that this has happened. Because world, we haven't ever seen anything like this.

[Scott Hansen]

No.

[Trey Kirby]

And we'll never see anything like this again until there's an eight foot tall.

[Scott Hansen]

Person and it might be him that.

[Trey Kirby]

Ends up being eight feet tall. He does look like growing seven dunks last night.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

How many Dirk Mides did he hit?

[Scott Hansen]

No, he's got. It's.

[Trey Kirby]

It was crazy. It's like he hit enough mid range jumpers that he gets the ball on the right wing with PJ Washington guarding him. Gives him a pump fake, one dribble. Vince Carter reverse dunk on the other side of the rim. Incredible stuff. I felt like Ryan Ruko was giving him new nicknames last night. At one point he did a cool dunk and he called him the figment of our basketball imagination.

[Jay Skeets]

The figment.

[Trey Kirby]

The figment could not catch up.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, the alien is so good, but the figment's good.

[Trey Kirby]

I think. Another good nickname for him that you heard from Ruko. Good luck. Good luck. Stopping Victor Wembanyama, who can guard him. He was a Wemby stopper.

[Jay Skeets]

He was doing this against Anthony Davis, who I know has fallen off a little bit, maybe on the defensive end. Still is a good solid defender. The Mavs have all these bigs. Like if they can't slow him down, then. You're right, Trey. It's like, what other chances do these other 25 other teams that have worse defensive centers or bigs or whatever, like, I mean, it was. It was like he was toying with them. Like they were like kids.

[Scott Hansen]

It sure did.

[Jay Skeets]

Right?

[Scott Hansen]

We have entered the Victor Wembanyama era. I wasn't ready in the summer to say we're here because all the talk about kung Fu and all that. Okay, great. But how about on the floor while we're here? This is it. This is one of the best players of the 2000s. It's not going away. He is getting better. He's going to be one of the best players in the league for a long time because yeah, in the first game you can look at highlights and say, wow, reverse stunk. Wow, reverse alley oop. Okay, he's good. But then you watch the game and he showed everything in the deck as you. As you said, he's at the three point line and goes, you know, from the foul line extended directly into the free throw lane and kills Naji Marshall kills whoever is on him. He can step back and hit a three. He can just grab boards over large men like Derek Lively at some point. The guy who supposedly grew this offseason. Derek Lively is supposed to be 7, 2, 7 3. He grabbed it over his head like he was a boy. And so they start the stories like I referred to the Kung Fu. They started the ESPN broadcast with, you know, George Sodano on the sideline. What he's got to do. Yeah, here's the Shaolin Temple, here's the Kung Fu. But all that stuff I questioned, I wonder. I don't really care to hear all about that. I'd rather enjoy the basketball. And then boom. He shut everybody up. Yeah, he's. He's the figment. He is the next one. It's here. We're. We're here. The guy was handling the ball, Jordan McLaughlin, a little tiny guard, a six foot one guard was setting the pick for him. We haven't seen anything like this. We just haven't.

[Jay Skeets]

He has improved. I thought you were going to go with Wemby as MVP and most improved. First guy to ever do that because the handles looked awesome. The comfortability with everything. The shot, it's like still incredible. Defender like that one with Lively, it's like almost everybody stopped for a second and was like, well, that's gotta be a goal 10, right? It's like, yep. That can't make. That doesn't make sense. But nope, it was completely clean. Just spiked it down. What a. What a game. And they dominated them too, obviously. And Castle looked good, Harper looked good. There's no fox even in this game for them still. And they ran away with it in the second half taking care of the rookie Cooper flag and the Mavericks.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, the Cooper flag thing is. Is interesting for Jason Kidd. We'll get to it later on when we play when we talk about our pick, I mean our pick of the night. But you start Cooper Flag and Daniel Russell, you know he's an all star. He's a freaking all star. A few years ago he's sitting on the bench. Well, Cooper flag is starting at your point guard and things looked a little too bright for him. It's game one. That's totally fine. Things were a little bright for everybody in game one, even Victor. We watched him in game one of his summer league career. Didn't look all that good. Things happen. But just to start him, just to throw Cooper flag out there was a little puzzling for me. But he'll be entirely fine.

[Jay Skeets]

Wemby mania is here and it is. Well, year three, it's nuts. He's only going to get better. I don't know how.

[Trey Kirby]

He might be the best player in the league by the end of the season.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, it's not unreasonable. It's in play. Okay, well keep moving some pace here. You have the next pick.

[Scott Hansen]

Well, it's just one game, but John Morant is at the MVP table.

[Jay Skeets]

Wow.

[Scott Hansen]

He's been waiting to get back to this table. Can he do it again? Because the last two seasons, no MVP votes, not even an all star appearance. But before those two years, MVP votes for the two years before that, all star, the two years before that. So here we are, Ken. John Morant do it again. Frankly, he. He needs a bounce back year. So here we are watching him and although Victor Wembanyama will take every headline and every highlight. John Morant was freaking spectacular last night too. Super athletic as he always is. First possession he had Zion Williamson on him side to side. Hit it right in your face from mid range. They have given him the ball. They have given him the ability to take this team wherever it can go. Will he have that bounce back season because he showed some great stuff. It wasn't quite a victor step back three. But he hit one of his own. He hit a fast break as we all know John Morant to do. He kind of lost it going to his right of the rim and just kind of threw it in. He's just so good at late bucket. He sealed it with his hand up like a little Statue of Liberty. Left it up there. Jen Jackson Jr. Also doing it from the bench. That's what we're doing now. This is our team now. He finished them off. They finished the Pelicans off 35 points. That's what he does in season openers. He's awesome actually in season openers he averages more than 30 in season openers. Four of his six opening games, he's had 30 or more. One was a rookie year. Who cares? One was 24. So he's just really good. The question was for us with the Grizzlies, do they have enough guys to support him? And then you saw last night, even though Zach Edie's out, Brandon Clark's out, we wonder what's going on with their front line. Jaren Jackson Jr. Is great. Six blocks and guys were able to back him up even though Jaren Jackson Jr. Fouled out because Zion was awesome. Jock Landell also fouled out in this game. Santiago had five fouls in this game. But so many guys just come and helping out kcp Jalen Wells off the bench. I mentioned Aldama. Javon Small was good. I loved watching Cedric Coward in his rookie game. He looked really good. Yeah, that block with two minutes left kind of sealed it. So they've got a big team that's playing together and John Morant's got the keys. We'll see what he can do. Because we all thought. We all. How was it? You know, it was four years ago. We all wondered, is this the next face of the league? I mean, was it the part of.

[Jay Skeets]

The discussion the NBA almost started, you know, banking on it, that he was going to be.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

And that's why when the gun drama happened, it was like, oh, no, what are you doing? We were ready to. We were giving you the keys. You were taking this.

[Scott Hansen]

Yes.

[Jay Skeets]

And then that obviously set him back. But you're wondering if he is indeed back into sort of that conversation, the MVP conversation.

[Trey Kirby]

He's an absolute star. I've said it a lot of times when we were at summer league, you see his jersey more than almost anybody. He's electrifying to watch. And he looked like the athlete that we expect from Drama Rant. And he looked unleashed playing in a pick and roll heavy system like Jack Landale isn't a super talented player, but he can set a screen and roll and that's all that John Morant needs. The question for him is health. He's only gotten to 67 games once in his career his rookie year. So he's literally only been eligible for votes one time in his career. But basically the Grizzlies, at least the formula held true last night. If Jaw plays and Jaren Jackson Jr. Plays, they can win. They're a better team than the Pelicans are. So having those two guys healthy for the season opener I think is huge for Memphis they can figure out the rest cause they got a lot of decent role players. Like probably their 7 through 10 are pretty interchangeable with their guys who are like 11 through 15. Because Coward showed up. Like you're saying, I think El Damas a really good player. Javon Small, who's this guy? Yeah, that's what it is with the Grizzlies. They just find random dudes and they actually turn up and play pretty decently in their system. So yeah, I was happy to see Ja looking like his old self.

[Jay Skeets]

I had no idea that our Canadian Omax Prosper was on this roster.

[Scott Hansen]

He was big.

[Jay Skeets]

What I missed that news. He played well too. Yeah, it was the one guy you didn't sort of mention there. When you're going through the Grizzlies roster.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, a two way contract literally can be sent down to the G League. Nearly 20 minutes was really key. Now the Pelicans almost won this game. They're really, really good. Zion was really, really awesome. It was great to see Derek Queen play basketball because the rookie was supposed to be hurt to start the season. Jeremiah Fears, the other rookie, who Joe Dumars, as you mentioned when we were talking about NBA investigations, I mean he decided along with Troy Weaver, we're going super young. Fears, come on in. We're trading for Derek Queen. Come on in. They traded for Sadiq Bay who you know was a big minus in this game because he can get beat defensively but he helped out. I suppose so. They look good too. I think it's a win win for both these teams this particular game if they stay healthy.

[Jay Skeets]

That's a huge if with both of these teams. The Pelicans, Grizzlies, it feels like to me they will be competing with one another in terms of where they are in the Western Conference. Right. Whether that's a play in spot, whether that's maybe, maybe trying to crack a top six. I think they're going to be again if they're healthy on the same tier is where I have them moving forward in the season. I think still a lot of people, maybe you guys included team Grizzlies over team Pelicans.

[Trey Kirby]

Definitely.

[Jay Skeets]

I get it. But I still think there's something there. And it was a close game to like you said, high scoring game at that. 128, 122.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, the Grizzlies are definitely more expected to be better. Yeah, like they're over under. They're supposed to be a 500 team while the Pelicans are like 10 games below that. Yeah, yeah. 32 and 50. But you mentioned the Canadian Olivia Maxon's Prosper. What about the Canadian touch on the Grizzlies jerseys? I thought is cool because it's a little ode to Vancouver days, you know, like the Tealy. I don't even know what to call that color, man. They're just. The trim on the black jerseys is just nice because it ain't teal, just pops. It ain't green.

[Trey Kirby]

It's just.

[Scott Hansen]

It's a beautiful hue.

[Trey Kirby]

Whatever it is, it's a beautiful hue. Memorable shade.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, it is a memorable shade.

[Jay Skeets]

Bryant, Rees flashbacks, Michael Dickerson. Yeah.

[Scott Hansen]

Dennis Scott. One year.

[Jay Skeets]

That's right.

[Scott Hansen]

That's right.

[Trey Kirby]

One year.

[Scott Hansen]

Ah, come on.

[Jay Skeets]

Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.

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[Jay Skeets]

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[Scott Hansen]

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[Jay Skeets]

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[Jay Skeets]

All right, I have the third pick here. It's just one game, but add the Toronto Raptors to your must watch league pass list. This team is electric. I saw him in person. TK you were down at the Fortress as well, watching the Raps? Absolutely. Carve up the Atlanta hawks. They destroyed them. 34 fast break points on Wednesday, 86 points in the paint for the Rap. There was some huge offensive rebounds. Those guys were skying above Hawks players for boards. A lot of guys on the Raps. Weird group of players on this Raps team. It's a weird team, but they really seem to have each other's back. I was sort of really close to their bench watching that intently. They were just pinging that ball around with 36 assists. And they had the Hawks fans leaving the building with like 10 minutes ago in the fourth quarter because they blew the game open in the third. Near the end of the third, it was sort of still within reach. Huge 14, 0 run and it was over. And they looked impressive. TK I don't know if you have thoughts on the. On the Raps. They're seeing them up close.

[Trey Kirby]

I think it might be the other way. Add the Hawks to your league pass list. If they're going to play a defense like this, it's going to be high scoring games. You look at the shot chart for the Raptors, you can't even see the rim. There are so many makes at the basket. I saw Jakob Pearl get a steal, lead a fast break and throw an alley oop. It was disgusting how poor the Hawks were giving effort. Getting back on the defensive end. You saw a lot of times just complaining that no foul call happened and it was Purdle running for an open basket. RJ Barrett was great, I thought quickly was in the lane quite a bit. Grady Dick played a really, really good game. Got to the line six times, made some three pointers. For a guy that's a good shooter, he's got an ugly jump shot. He's got like a. He's got a trebuchet. Chris Boucher kind of. Which is unusual for a guy that shoots it pretty well. But I thought he played one of his better games totally. Ingram looked really good and it was a perfect performance for the Raptors and a dismal performance on the defensive end for the Hawks. This is a team that's expected to do something and the Eastern Conference this year. They didn't look very good at all last night. Porzingis couldn't catch the ball. Nikhil Alexander Walker, massive dud. And Trae Young was completely taken out of the game by quickly Jamal Shed playing defense and you know he got his numbers at the end once the game was over. But the hawks gave up 110 and three quarters. They scored 118 on the night.

[Jay Skeets]

There were like three or four possessions where a Raptors player was wide open under the rim like after a nice pass or two to get it to him, and that player was turning it down. They were, like, shocked how open they were. So then they would pass it to another guy in the paint for a more difficult shot. But it usually ended in an and one. So it was like. Ended up being the smarter play. It was like, oh, RJ Barrett could just lay this in because he doesn't realize anyone's around him. No, he's going to shovel it to Purdle or Ingram or Barnes. He's going to get fouled and score the layup.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

So it's like, it was wild to see the Hawks were bad, but the Raps. I said it. In the preseason, there's going to be some national media attention to their second unit. These guys play hard. Jamal Shed, you brought up Trey. He picks up guys 94ft. He's a dog.

[Scott Hansen]

They got some dogs.

[Jay Skeets]

Ochai Abaji, also great. Mamu love having this guy out there. He was solid. He was a plus 21. And you brought up Grady Dick. That's one of the best Grady Dick games I've seen, period. For the Interraptors uniform, I've seen a lot of them. So it was good performance.

[Scott Hansen]

That was some Grady Gravy out there. Trey Boucher, Boucher shot form. I don't care. He looks. He looked good. Yeah. But when you're playing with Ochaibaji, who was really good defensively, it's a name we'll skip over when you talk about the Toronto Raptors, because he's a heart type of guy. He's not a scoring type of guy, but he comes off the bench along with Jamal Shed, along with Jonathan Mobo, to accompany Grady Dick and what he can do. Who plays hard defensively, but he's not a really good defensive player. So along with Mamu Mah Move. They all play hard. It's what Brandon Ingrid. It was Scotty Barnes, actually, who said, preseason, we're like 13, 14 deep. They believe in each other. Darker. Yakovic played 11 guys last night. He played.

[Jay Skeets]

Darko was going crazy on the sidelines, man.

[Scott Hansen]

He was not.

[Jay Skeets]

And then he went nuts in the locker room. If you haven't seen that clip, it sort of comes in all cool and then goes bonkers going around the room.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

And they're handing out. The Raptors are handing out a cobra stick. What's a cobra stick to, like a. It's exactly what it is. It's a staff with a. With a cobra head on it.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

And I think it's for the defensive side. Of the ball. And then they've got the chain, the spinner. John Cena sort of spinner chain for the offense player. Ochai got the defensive cobra stick. I don't know how you travel with that thing. That's all I kept thinking. Does it like somehow like, you know, compact itself down into carry on?

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, that's a good question. I think so.

[Trey Kirby]

Telescoping.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, telescoping. That's what I'm looking for.

[Scott Hansen]

Exactly.

[Jay Skeets]

Anyway, they kicked us.

[Scott Hansen]

They sure did. Yeah. They just moved the ball. Everybody could get into the lane. It's one of those things where you think, are these guys able to look really good and beat guys off the bounce because the other team just doesn't freaking play any defense or it is possible.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, the scary part is last night.

[Scott Hansen]

That's 138points in four quarters on your home court in game one. It's scary. That's scary. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Coming because of their defense. So there was a lot of turnovers or trey grifting for foul shots and it was ball loose. Raptors get it and go like you said. But the defense, so many fast breaks.

[Scott Hansen]

But the defensive transition wasn't there. And then the third quarter after having a terrible first half on your home court, you got to come out and fight regardless of anything. And this is game one. So that is scary here. The over under on this team was a 47 and a half win team. Are they going to go 50 and 32? That's scary. Just, you know, basketball aside, if your heart ain't there while on the other team. Yeah, they just moved it to everybody. I mean, listening to this broadcast on the Atlanta Hawks, Dominique Wilkins legend. Dominique Wilkins had to clear his throat a couple times. You could hear there's a couple things. Maybe we got to find him the cough bun. Maybe we got to give him a fisherman's friend as Matt Devlin used to have. What's going on? Two big clears of his throat. It's opening night for everybody.

[Jay Skeets]

For everybody shaking off the rust for sure.

[Scott Hansen]

I even heard Mike Breen on the Cavs Nicks game, which we'll get to say. Aaron George is enjoying it about the Sixers because he called Aaron George. We called Paul George Aaron George. Weird. Dominique Wilkins called him Emmanuel Quigley. You know, there's weird stuff going on quickly.

[Jay Skeets]

Better than Shane Goon legally.

[Scott Hansen]

There's some funny stuff.

[Trey Kirby]

There's made six threes.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, I know they made six three.

[Scott Hansen]

Couldn't shoot at all because what are the points in? In the paint and fast breakpoint they're ridiculous. 86 points in the paint. And the fast break points, also ridiculously high.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, it's 34, I think.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. I don't know. You gotta be excited as, like, Brandon Ingram. Interviewed after this game, Caleb Gray said 138 points. That's the most in Raptors history for an opening game. He. She asked, you know, what is. What do you feel about. How do you feel about that? He said, well, BI is here. That's all. That's all he had to say.

[Jay Skeets]

It was great to see him back on the floor, looking real smooth. Before we go to our next round, I do have to ask Trey Kirby whether or not you're hungry right now at 10:30 in the morning, because we had a weird bet on this game. One of the weirder bets we've ever done.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

We put a hot dog on the line.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, a hot dog. Because I thought it was a hot dog.

[Jay Skeets]

You. You.

[Trey Kirby]

Five and a half was a lot of.

[Jay Skeets]

The Raptors were going to win by 15. So I guess I was right. It was twice that. So I got some hot dogs for you.

[Scott Hansen]

Great.

[Jay Skeets]

Raw dogs. Yeah, let's. I'm gonna throw them on the table for audio effect. Now, you don't have to need them all. Just one. But we are going. Raw dogs. They're fully cooked.

[Trey Kirby]

But why are hot dogs so wet, huh? I'm gonna cut into them here with these beautiful shears.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Nice. I like that you had a pocket in your overalls for those.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Very healthy. She's very, very.

[Jay Skeets]

Watch the juice, bro, with your computer, man.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, that's a great point.

[Jay Skeets]

Watch that. Watch that dog juice. Watch that dog juice.

[Trey Kirby]

I'm not looking forward to this at all.

[Jay Skeets]

Really?

[Trey Kirby]

No.

[Jay Skeets]

Those are nice Nathan's beef franks.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, that's good. I like the quality.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

I like that they're skinless as well. Come on. I hadn't even thought about him possibly adding skin. There's no casing on that thing as a skinless dog.

[Jay Skeets]

Right here. Now, be careful. Right there. Zoom out, J.D.

[Scott Hansen]

Yes.

[Jay Skeets]

Nice.

[Trey Kirby]

A.m. i hungry?

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[Trey Kirby]

I ate a giant bowl of Wednesday cereal.

[Jay Skeets]

Hey, don't choke on this. We don't have the carburetor or whatever that gets called.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, this is so bad.

[Jay Skeets]

Really?

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

I don't like this at all.

[Scott Hansen]

No cold dog.

[Jay Skeets]

You bake the bed.

[Scott Hansen]

I figure.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, you're the one who made it a cold ride. I know. I thought it would be funnier.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, so did I, when I thought the Hawks were gonna win. This is literally gonna take me Time.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Scott Hansen]

Does Joey Chestnut eat a cold dog.

[Trey Kirby]

When they have the competition? Even Chestnut couldn't.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Kobayashi could. Kobayashi would take that entire. What is that, 12 dogs?

[Trey Kirby]

It tastes even more like a hot dog than I was expecting.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know why.

[Scott Hansen]

Interesting.

[Jay Skeets]

We're learning a lot of things.

[Trey Kirby]

This is all I want to eat. I do. I want to be a Le Ellis and like take like a.

[Jay Skeets]

It looks awesome. Is way better than you eating a normal hot dog.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, but you just said it tasted like a normal hot dog. I'm surprised you hate it so much. I thought you hated it cuz it tastes like a cold wet.

[Jay Skeets]

I think it's wet. Yeah, it's the wet.

[Trey Kirby]

The coldness of it isn't helping at all.

[Scott Hansen]

Oh, this guy.

[Jay Skeets]

Who knew this would be maybe our best payoff? This is so gross. All right.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, gross.

[Trey Kirby]

I'm going to finish it. Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

I believe you will. We got lots of. Lots of pot.

[Trey Kirby]

This is going to be long.

[Scott Hansen]

Great dedication.

[Jay Skeets]

Can we go to you for our next round, Trey, while you talk about your team?

[Trey Kirby]

It's just one game, but the balls are back.

[Jay Skeets]

The balls are back.

[Trey Kirby]

Did they blow a 23 point lead last night? Absolutely they did. Spitting dog on my own thumb. Did they also win their season opener for the first time in three years? You know it. Did the Matas Buzz Ellis all Star campaign start last night? Absolutely.

[Jay Skeets]

Nice.

[Trey Kirby]

21 point, six boards, three blocks, three dunks for little boozy Vert last night. You can tell he worked on his left hand. He had three drives, I think where he finished lefty. Had a couple of like little flippity scoop shots that were really nice. Vuch, he's in audition mode right now. He was at the MVP for the Bulls last night. 28 points, 14 boards, four three pointers. He had eight points in the fourth quarter and a lot of them were as the Pistons were making their comeback. Getting the game close, even tying it. Eventually. Just finding Vuch for a little push shot knocking him down. He's got good touch. Played really well last season. Shot 40% from three. I think that was a career high. Looked absolutely washed in the preseason. Played great in this one, he said. Whoever remembers the preseason? Anyways, Josh Giddy, also pretty solid. Now that I'm talking, it's not as bad.

[Jay Skeets]

All right.

[Trey Kirby]

19 points, five boards, 11 assists. Then you swallow. Still bad. And a couple of nice miss extra passes late, including finding V for his little push shot, but almost threw it away at the end. He missed two free throws late in this one. The last 34 seconds. Almost turned the ball over when Cade Cunningham came and stripped him. But review it. They say off Kade's finger, he started rolling his eyes. Sorry, buddy. That's why we have cameras. Cade was pretty good, though. 23 points, 7 rebounds, 10 assists. I didn't think the starters, though, were very good at all for Detroit last night. Cade made a bunch of tough shots in the fourth quarter, but you could really feel the absence of Malik Beasley's space because Duncan Robinson wasn't shooting the ball all that well. And definitely a lot on Cade's shoulders with Jaden Ivy being out with injury, Dennis Schroeder departing over the off season. So I think it's going to be a work in progress for the offensive side of things for the Pistons going forward. But Ron Holland looked really, really good. He changed the game, I thought, in the third quarter with his athleticism. Finished with 19 points, four boards, three assists, just a couple of steals and a block going against his G League ignite teammate, Matas Bouzelis.

[Jay Skeets]

All right.

[Trey Kirby]

Makes you think why they canceled the G League. These two guys are good.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Jalen Green got paid $100 million.

[Jay Skeets]

It was working for some guys. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Basically, Scoot Henderson had one down year at the beginning of his career, and they're like, I don't know if we should be doing this, but these guys are good. So I was impressed the Bulls pulled off a win. It wasn't super inspiring after the comeback, but, you know, building the lead was cool.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Well, man, one of the. Probably one of the weirder games from last night. I'm sitting in the fortress at the Hawks Raptors game. You know, you're looking up to see the scores of the other games. At one point, I'm with my buddy Grish, who is a Pistons fan. We're like. He's like, oh, Detroit's getting beat. I'm like, oh, okay, Bulls are up. What? They're up 35 or 40, whatever the hell it got up to. I was like, that can't be right. That's got to be a typo up on the Jumbotron there. But, yeah, obviously the Pistons made a game of it, but. But Bulls and wraps one, and.

[Scott Hansen]

Oh, there we go.

[Jay Skeets]

We're feeling good here. And the hot dog going down a little smoother as it gets to the nub. Yeah, maybe the nub's the worst part.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, I'm just so glad it's skinless, but I think maybe my, like, my taste buds are getting accustomed to. I think it was the overwhelming salt bomb when I first. Salty and smoky.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. And it is. It is early here, too. I think that I feel like you'd. It wouldn't be as bad at 4 o' clock in the afternoon. Sunshine outside, maybe a spindrift in your hand. I think a rod dog goes down a little easier.

[Trey Kirby]

Probably so literally.

[Jay Skeets]

Did an ad read for Be Frank Snathens.

[Scott Hansen]

You're saying it's more of a dinner food. Like, you recently said that you would never have sushi at lunch. Isn't that what you said?

[Jay Skeets]

I said that?

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, you said. You said you've never had sushi. Never had sushi lunch before. It's a dinner food.

[Jay Skeets]

I said that?

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[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, you had sushi for the first time.

[Jay Skeets]

Sounds like something I would have said. So I believe you, but I don't remember.

[Scott Hansen]

Anyways, yeah, it would be nice for Kate to have more ball handling help. There's no doubt about that. This team turned it around last year when Dennis Schroeder got there. They had a ball handling. Yesterday, he took 24 shots.

[Trey Kirby]

That's a lot of shots.

[Scott Hansen]

The next next highest Detroit piston was 14. It was Isaiah Stewart. Isaiah Stewart just was banging up. So they do miss pretty good, I thought. Yeah, he was good except for when.

[Trey Kirby]

He got dunked on. Got a straight hot dog to the head.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, yeah. They need help. Malik Beasley, if he's not involved in this gambling investigation, bring him back in because they. They need somebody who can shoot that thing. We shall see if Jay Nivey can be that guy who comes back in a few weeks.

[Jay Skeets]

All right, let's go to you again.

[Scott Hansen]

Oh, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

What do you have here?

[Scott Hansen]

I have Vijay Edgecombe is the best player on the Philadelphia 76ers and going to win rookie of the Year. I don't know which part of that is more egregious. It's the fact that he is not the best player on the Philadelphia 76ers. Tyrese Maxey is. We'll get to Embiid and Paul George a little bit later on. But the rookie of the year thing, oh, he could do it because he does it all and he takes off so much pressure of Tyrese Maxey. Last year, we started the season with Tyrese Maxey being the focus of every other defense we're coming at, you know, and beat. No Paul George. We gotcha. Well, now they have another guy who can score. He can do whatever he can. Get the ball from Tyrese Maxey and beat whoever's in front of him. He showed that he can get to the rim. He's awesome in fast breaks. He drives by guys. He hits threes. He had five threes last night. He can pull it up if he needs to in in the mid range as he did to end this game. So how will you guard him? He had 35 fricking points. Vijay Edgecombe in his debut.

[Trey Kirby]

That's a rookie debut.

[Scott Hansen]

It's a Sixers record for a rookie. That is big, big, big stuff. So can he win Rookie of the Year? Well, they're going to have so many opportunities to give Vijay Edgcombe the ball, so I think there is a legitimate opportunity. Joel Embiid played last night. Minutes restriction, 20 minutes, did not play the fourth quarter. Paul George did not play last night. He's supposed to be clear to play, but the fact is those knees, those legs are getting older. Coming off a bad year. He had arthroscopic knee surgery in the off season. So Edgecombe and Maxi are the one two guys on that team. So I don't know what you guys think. Is that the wildest part of that? It's just one game, but statement. Is he the Sixers best player or is there no chance of him winning Rookie of the Year because of Cooper Flag?

[Jay Skeets]

I think the latter is more likely. Yeah, really do. The concern was, was there going to be enough opportunity for him because in theory Paul George is there. Jared McCain, who was the front runner for Rookie of the Year last year before he got injured, was going to be there. But you take those guys out, nurse slots them in here and it's going to get to the point where you can't, you can't take him out like he's, he's too good. He's such an athletic freak. So, yeah, Maxi is still the better player, but Rookie of the Year, he's going to be in the running here. Absolutely. He's so fun to watch, too. He's already one of my favorite players to watch in this league.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, he looked great last night. 40 for Maxi as well. I mean, that's kind of getting glossed over, but they have their backcourt of the future and they maybe even had their third guard of the future. If you're throwing Jared McCain in there as well. I don't know if Edgecombe is going to shoot the ball as well as he did last night. Made five threes, took 13 of them. So he was getting the shots up. Wasn't a huge shooter in college, but like you're saying, he was getting into the mid range as well, knocking those ones Down. I guess when you're feeling it, it, keep feeling it. So that was awesome. I do think he will continue to be a plus athlete. He looked like the best athlete on the floor. The Celtics look like they don't have a lot of defense going on right now, and that's definitely going to be something to adjust to. Jason Tatum is a big presence out there defensively. We know they lost Horford, we know they lost Luke Cornett. These are guys who were key defensive players for the Celtics. So they are definitely going to have things to figure out on that side. But it kind of felt like the, the Sixers just threw the ball out there and said, let's see what these fast guards can do. And they just ran all over the Celtics.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. And just to correct you, VJ Edgecomb, 34 points. Oh, not 35 last night. And I bring that.

[Scott Hansen]

Must have been, must have been a fat finger.

[Jay Skeets]

Fat fingered the. On the keyboard. But I bring that up because Statitudes had a very fun trivia question for you guys. VJ Edgecomb, Tyrese Maxey scored a combined 74 points, tied for the second highest total by a duo in a season open in NBA history. Can you tell me the duo that scored 75 points? I'm gonna tell you right now you can't. But I'll give you the player, one of the players, and the guy that did it with him is the tough part. So James Harden scored 44 points for the Rockets on December 26, 2020. So it was that weird season when we were starting. Okay, so who scored 31 in that game with James Harden?

[Scott Hansen]

Is it Corey Brewer?

[Jay Skeets]

No, no.

[Trey Kirby]

Let me get in for Kevin Porter's Jr. No.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. This is tough. It's a big guy.

[Trey Kirby]

It's a large guy.

[Jay Skeets]

It's a large guy that I don't think is it, you know, he's not in the league anymore.

[Trey Kirby]

Who ended up playing with the.

[Scott Hansen]

Oh, the lefty. I forget his name.

[Jay Skeets]

Is he lefty? Nope, nope, he's not a lefty. Where is this guy? I gotta find out where this guy is. No, he's not in the league anymore. But I'll tell you the teams he's played for. Philly, Charlotte, Milwaukee, the Pelicans, Detroit, Houston, of course, Dallas. And his last team was the Lakers.

[Scott Hansen]

Dwight. No, last team was the Lakers. That should give it away.

[Trey Kirby]

Demarcus Cousins.

[Jay Skeets]

Think.

[Trey Kirby]

Christian Wood.

[Jay Skeets]

Christian Wood up to no good in the season opener. Would you.

[Trey Kirby]

That one called Shack A casual.

[Jay Skeets]

Probably, yeah. Probably.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Scott Hansen]

Good call.

[Jay Skeets]

44 points for Harden, 31 for Wood in the Rockets season opener in that weird season when they started just after Chris was weird.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

But Edgecombe and maxi, not bad. 74. All right, I have the next pick here. It's just one game, but the Orlando Magic or Flamethrowers could use the flame on those hot dogs, Trey, and make them go down a little bit better. But you took that dog down. Way to go. Way to pay off the bet. Oh, there is hot dog juice.

[Trey Kirby]

There is juice all over the table. Call Limp Bizkit. We got some hot dog flavored water over here.

[Jay Skeets]

The Magic guys, they have ranked in the bottom 10 offensively 13 years in a row. That ends this season. I'm calling it now. They're not going to be one of the worst offensive teams. They beat the Heat 125, 121 on Wednesday and here's the great part. They shot 40% from three point land. They shot 12 of 30 from three. That'll do it. That's good enough. Franz doing his part, Paolo doing his part. Desmond Bain coming in here. All those guys scored over 20. Bain hit a couple threes. It's great and I looked it up. Just to give you a little perspective on this. Last season, the Magic had just two games before New Year's Eve where they shot 40% or better from three. Just two. They both happened against the Brooklyn Nets and they both came in wins. So to start the season with Bain in there and actually just hitting some three pointers, they don't need 18, 19, 20, they need 12 or 13 or 14 sort of a game and around a decent percentage like that, 38 or 37, whatever. That would be awesome. So that was good. In a competitive game with the Heat.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, they needed something. Yeah, I just googled. Oh, Google AI coming through. Doesn't always come through, but it pulled up a short that I made last year saying that the Orlando Magic were the worst three point shooting team in a friggin decade, shooting 31.8%. There's just so much less pressure on Franz Wagner out there. It just feels like that he can breathe. Everything sort of just opens up for the land of the Magic. So that's what it looked like out there against that Miami Heat team that plays all the defense. But this was just a everybody scoring type of game. I thought your statement was going to be Simone Fontechio. It's going to be six man of the year, man. He was awesome. Thirteen off the bench or it's just one game. But Norm Powell will be an all star. That guy Was frigging awesome. On the other side for the Miami Heat, 28 points. I think Davion Mitchell insert into the starting lineup kind of relieves things for them instead of what they were trying out in the. In the preseason. So it's awesome to see Desmond Bain in those fricking awesome white pinstripe jerseys to just help out France and Paolo. Simple as that.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, but Suggs hitting a couple, obviously. Bane is there to hit threes. De Silva hit a couple off the bench again. It's an important piece in today's NBA you got to hit some threes and they could never do that. And they were still a decent team even when their guys were playing. They level up if they're just an average shooting three point team or offensively.

[Trey Kirby]

And they made 29 free throws, which they do. That's the thing is with the Magic is that's their main efficiency thing, is that they actually get to the free throw line a lot. Paolo in particular, he went nine for 12. But I think nine of their last 15 points were at the free throw line. They're a tough team and they're going to. I thought Wendell Carter Jr. Was kind of massive for him grabbing offensive rebounds going back. He had a couple late that really sealed the game for him. So if they're able to like 12 three pointers is not enough. Really go in the long term. But for the Magic it is, you know, it's like if you're starving, you'll eat a raw hot dog.

[Jay Skeets]

Right?

[Trey Kirby]

And that was a delicious raw hot dog for the Magic.

[Scott Hansen]

Close up. Close up of the hot dogs. J.D. look at that. Oh, there's juice. There's juice. Get away from the juice.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, that's two rounds of. It's just one game, but we gotta take a break. What were you gonna say?

[Scott Hansen]

No, I have the Magic. You don't want me to say that.

[Jay Skeets]

No, not really. We are literally an hour and we're just looking at hot dogs. People talk for 10min.

[Scott Hansen]

Gambling. Of course it's gonna happen.

[Jay Skeets]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There was breaking news within a federal investigation.

[Scott Hansen]

We don't know anything about it.

[Jay Skeets]

Jesus. All right, we gotta take an ad break and when we come back we'll do a couple other rounds of. It's just one game.

[Trey Kirby]

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[Scott Hansen]

Oh my gosh.

[Trey Kirby]

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[Scott Hansen]

Ah come on.

[Jay Skeets]

Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.

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[Jay Skeets]

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[Scott Hansen]

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[Jay Skeets]

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[Scott Hansen]

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[Jay Skeets]

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[Scott Hansen]

You know The Saja Boys are actually performing. Like the people who. Who actually are the singers of the Sasha Boys come out and do live performances. It was happening here in Atlanta. Literally.

[Trey Kirby]

Exciting.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. My daughter saw it and was excited to go, and I said, nah. Was Huntrex then not gonna be the Saja Boy?

[Jay Skeets]

You guys are talking in code right now to me. I literally, I mean, I know what you're talking about, but also have no idea what you're actually saying. These are all characters, I guess. Oh, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

So, I mean, the Huntricks are the K pop demon hunters and they're trying to track down the Saja Boys. Come and steal their sunshine. If we're being quite honest, you know, they came in, they. Huntrix was on top of the world until the Saja Boys came out.

[Jay Skeets]

They're showing their abs, they're doing their.

[Trey Kirby]

Dance moves, they're singing new Kids on the Block songs, you know.

[Jay Skeets]

They're not singing Len.

[Trey Kirby]

No, they're not singing Len should be. They're still singing. They're writing brand new songs. And guess what? The songs are better than you would think.

[Scott Hansen]

But they're good.

[Trey Kirby]

Huntrick knows there's something wrong with them, so they got to hunt down those demons and turn the Sasha Boys good.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Scott Hansen]

Got lots of abs. More abs than Benson Boone, I'd say.

[Jay Skeets]

I also want to apologize for rushing to get off the hot dogs.

[Scott Hansen]

We talk about gambling. That's okay, Devin.

[Jay Skeets]

Here in the Stream team says. Skeets, you don't know your fan base if you think we aren't loving close ups of a pack of raw dogs. I'm sorry, Devin.

[Scott Hansen]

You're right.

[Jay Skeets]

I just knew we were running long and we had seen the hot dogs a couple times. I know. People do know what hot dogs look like, but it's funny. A guy ate a raw one and there's juice all over the table.

[Scott Hansen]

I gotta it. And we're going to throw out 11 hot dogs. No one's going to eat another one of these dogs.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, I'll take some if you're. You're not going to throw these out, J.D.

[Scott Hansen]

Absolutely not.

[Jay Skeets]

What are you talking about?

[Scott Hansen]

They've been sitting here for 40 minutes at room temp.

[Jay Skeets]

They're a hot dog. They're already disgusting.

[Trey Kirby]

Hot Dogs last.

[Jay Skeets]

This is making them taste better.

[Scott Hansen]

They do last forever. Yeah. Jeez.

[Trey Kirby]

Did you get buns?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, of course.

[Trey Kirby]

Hey, we got a second show today.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, we do have Survivor. You're right. Oh, my God.

[Trey Kirby]

I just ate a raw hot dog. It was disgusting. I'm like let's cook these.

[Jay Skeets]

Survivor challenge. Also playing for reward, Jeff pros unveils pack of rod hot dogs. What would they do? I think they would pop because they have fire. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Actually kind of good. You get hot dog dinner.

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[Scott Hansen]

I'll take that over fruit, that's for sure.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Scott Hansen]

Get out of here.

[Jay Skeets]

Interesting.

[Scott Hansen]

Anyway, two shows today, no shows tomorrow. If you guys are eating these freaking.

[Trey Kirby]

Room temperature hot dogs, you're denigrating the humble dog here.

[Scott Hansen]

I like it.

[Trey Kirby]

When's the last time you ate a hot dog?

[Scott Hansen]

Oh, I had a one that's actually actual meat. It was good.

[Trey Kirby]

You don't think this was meatless?

[Scott Hansen]

I'm pulling a Le Ellis.

[Jay Skeets]

Gourmet hot dogs. Is that what you're saying?

[Scott Hansen]

It's better than.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, it's just one game, but continues here. Their draft. Trey, you're up.

[Trey Kirby]

It's just one game, but the New York Knicks are winning the Eastern conference. I like it.04 against the Cleveland Cavaliers last year. 10 after one game this season. A lot of guys out for both teams. The Cavs were missing Darius Garland, Max Drew, Deandre Hunter. No Mitchell Robinson, no Josh Hart for the New York Knicks. But the big question for New York was going to be how much different does their offense look underneath Mike Brown? The Tom Thibodeau era. It was basically Jalen Brunson basketball. When he subs out. We play a different style. I thought the Knicks looked quite different. They did last night. You had Mikhail Bridges bringing the ball up quite a bit. You had OG Anunoby bringing the ball up quite a bit, initiating the offense while Jalen Brunson hangs out in the corner or comes off screens. His first shot attempt was an off ball three point attempt. You don't see that that often from Brunson before last night. They played at a faster pace than they played last season after being very slow during the during the preseason. But they got more possessions in last night. Had quite the distribution and scorers. OG had 24, had an awesome game all around. Jalen Brunson 23 Cat had 19 points. Mikhail Bridges had 16. And their bench was pretty solid. 15 for Deuce McBride. Tyler Kolek is going to be a contributor this year. Seven points, two assists in 13 minutes. The Knicks played 11 guys. Ten of them played 10 or more minutes. They got 31 points from their bench and that's missing two of their top six guys in Robinson and Hart as well. So that was the mandate for Mike Brown. Yeah, play more guys, get more synergy on offense and at least on night one, both were true.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. All I thought watching this game was does OG Anunoby count as an international player in the All Star Game? Right. British. Is he going to be on team International? Because you drafted him in our first team All Star draft and after one night you look great. And if they have an amazing record, which a lot of us expect them to, could they get the third All Star with Kat Brunson and would likely be og?

[Scott Hansen]

I wonder if there will be a federal investigation as to how the NBA picks its All Star Games. All players. It's a question. I just mentioned Norm Powell. He wants to play for Jamaica. He could be on the international team. It's going to be very interesting.

[Trey Kirby]

How about the Lithuanian Matas Buzz Ellis?

[Scott Hansen]

Sure, sure, he could play. What about the new Slovenian Jackson Hayes? He's playing for. He's playing for country Slovenia. Listen, this is a new era of the New York Knicks. They look way different. Mike Brown playing 11 guys in the first like 13 minutes of this game. Get out there. Tyler Cook, he looks great. He's the new Malcolm Brogdon is. He's replaced Malcolm Brogdon. He looks super young, super athletic. They were picking up guys 94ft at because they're going so deep. So it is different. It's different for Jalen Brunson. He's got to move off the ball. Mikhail Bridges is creating way more plays being the ball handler. You saw Carl Anthony Towns starting, even though there was questions about it was his ankle, I do believe with Ariel Huckporty beside him. Huck Porty started and he looked good. And Trey Jemison came in, was his backup. Really. They had Gershon Yabuzeli, who I'm surprised, didn't play as much, but he was out there as well. Wasn't playing backup center. No Mitchell Robinson, as you mentioned, no Josh Hart. They're deep. This is a different type of team. And a team that they're in that blender as that common term around NBA offenses is going around, everybody moving as opposed to just Jalen Brunson putting it on his shoulders. So this is. This is a different team. It's not that crazy a statement of. Of that the Knicks are going to win the Easter Conference.

[Jay Skeets]

No, it's not. All right, Tas, you have the next pick here. I guess we're in the third round.

[Scott Hansen]

Well, it's just one game, but Steve Ballmer is selling the Clippers. Now. That's just another way of saying are these Clippers too ancient to play basketball? Are they Just way too old. Steve Ballmer is not selling the Clippers. There's another investigation going on around him, but it's really another way to say what is going on with these Los Angeles Clippers. They go into Utah, a team that's projected to win, like, 20 games this season, and we're destroyed from the opening tip. And it didn't stop. I mean, they scored. Jazz scored 43 points in the first quarter. 78 at. At halftime. So 43 and then 35. It didn't stop. Didn't stop in the third quarter. Are these guys literally just too old out there? We can talk about whether Kawhi Leonard should be playing at the beginning of seasons. He started in January last year, had a great season because they. They pushed him back. We can talk about Bradley Beal playing in the starting lineup over Chris Dunn, because last year the Clippers had Chris Dunn, the guy who stopped. Penetration was out there. And this team just lacks athleticism. Last night, they got put in the blender. No disrespect to what Will Hardy has done, because we should talk about that, because the Utah Jazz were going deep. This team that's definitely not expected to do good was tearing apart the Los Angeles Clippers. It literally didn't start. It didn't stop. So, you know, you can watch a game and say, okay, 43, 19 after 1Q. All right, we'll see what the Clippers can do. But I just wondered, is this team way too old? We can get to the Jazz. Jazz side was.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I thought Kessler was awesome. 22 points. Went 7 of 7 from the field. Even hit a couple of threes, four blocks as well. Like, this was a guy that everybody was trying to steal. And the Jazz said, we're not going to come to an extension with him before the start of the season. So he's kind of betting on himself. And he looked like a cornerstone kind of piece for him, at least last night. Bryce Sensibaugh was getting buckets all preseason. The question comes, can you do it when it's against a real team, especially a team like the Clippers, who should be a decent defensive team in the long term? Yep, 20 points for him. Shot pretty well as well. 5, 7 of 13 from the field.

[Scott Hansen]

He was good.

[Trey Kirby]

This was a nice game for the Jazz. And the Clippers just didn't look like they were ready to play. Four of their top 10 guys are new, so they're trying to figure things out, but they look old, that's for sure. You know, Chris Paul's 40 years old brook Lopez, he's old and slow. They're gonna have to mess with the combinations a lot before they actually find out what's working. Because we talk so much about their flexibility they're gonna have this season. That's true. But it also means you have to mess around a lot to figure out what the perfect mix is.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, I bring up Bradley Beal because he has been injured for recent years. His body doesn't look like it's all that great every single year now he's trying out there, but there's something to say about having Chris Dunn in there to bring up the defensive effort on that side. I bring up Kawhi Leonard because he obviously has been injured for several seasons. But we shouldn't take away from yet what the Utah Jazz did. It's just one game, but Bryce Sensibile is going to be six man of the year. I mean, 20 points. Bang, bang. He's a bucket. He is a bucket. Yeah. They started Walker Kessler, who was left wide open by Ivy Zubotz. Shoot that thing. And he had three threes beside Lowry Market and Kyle Filipowski. Ace Bailey coming off the bench in this game, didn't need to have a great game. Svi Mahaluk is starting again. He's back with Keonte George beside him. Bryce Sensible, Walter Clayton, great, great guard for Florida. Taylor Hendricks kind of year two for him and Yusuf Nurkic were coming off the bench. I mean, that's. They played like 10 guys and I don't know if Craig Bolarjack, the play by play guy of the Utah jets has checks out, no dunks. But at some point Yousef Nurkic kind of went for a loose ball and he said Yusuf Nurkic showing speed. As we had our debate about whether or not Nurkic is the slowest or fastest guy when if he were to have a. A race with Kyle Anderson. Kevin Love, who didn't play. Who's the other story? George Niang also didn't play. They're going young and Will Hardy has got them working.

[Jay Skeets]

Clippers scored eight fast break points. So, yeah, looking a little old. Showing their age a little bit.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I don't think there'll be a big fast break team. No, but that's okay. You know, in the long term it'll be Harden and Kawhi generating most of their offense. They're slow down ISO players.

[Scott Hansen]

What'd you think of the Jazz court? Because they had a sort of a purple fade through the key. It's kind of like a darker purple. Then it gets Lighter. So it's. It's definitely looks different.

[Jay Skeets]

That was okay.

[Scott Hansen]

I like it.

[Jay Skeets]

Overall, it looks pretty good. This made me laugh though. From the AP report on the game. Quote, the new look. Clippers appeared confused on the court at times in a disappointing debut for a team with lofty aspirations. Even the AP report zing on the Clips getting punked by the Utah Jazz. Yeah, good win.

[Scott Hansen]

Another international player for all star appearance. Larry Markkanen could be there if they win lots of games. Guy needs another all star appearance. He's. He was, you know, just had to be solid last night.

[Jay Skeets]

Let's keep it moving. It's just one game. But the Hornets got their buzz back. Look good, feel good. Here's what I mean by that. The Hornets, they renovated their arena. It was one of the dumpier arenas, if we're being honest in the league. But they put like $245 million into renovations. Every seed is apparently new. They got new look concourses, new great, like Hornets art up everywhere. It translated. There was like an energy in that crowd. And it went to the team last night from the opening tip and they ran away with an easy victory over the Brooklyn Nets. They had a franchise record nine players finishing double digits in scoring. Two rookies started for the Hornets. Charles Lee, he was keeping this real close to the vest on. Hey, who's starting, who's not. What are you doing here, Charles? Come on, Charles, give us the starting lineup. Con Canipple and Ryan Kalkbrenner both started and both played really well. Looking like absolute NBA players to go. With Brandon Miller coming back, first time in a long time, he had 25 points. Obviously LaMelo got his too, and just Everybody contributed to 53% from the field, 47% from deep. It was fun to see, like energy in the Charlotte Hornets arena there last night in the Spectrum with a packed crowd and a team playing hard and everybody contributing. So, you know, maybe the Hornets are going to remove themselves from any conversation of like the worst of the worst in the league this year. And they're like a tier maybe even more above that. That'd be great for their fan base.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I think it would be awesome if they could challenge for a play in spot. I think that's, you know, probably the peak for the Hornets this year, but they're definitely better than a team like the Nets, who look completely out of sorts. Look like a team that drafted five rookies and their best player is Michael Porter Jr. So I thought the result was kind of as expected.

[Scott Hansen]

Yep. Yeah, two guys showing Heart, though. Cal Brenner and Knipple are there for a reason. Inserted into the lineup to play hard beside Lamelo and Brandon Miller and Miles Bridges. They showed heart. They looked. I had flashes of the Hornets last year, seeing they looked so different. They played hard yesterday. Last year they did. Not at all. Watching the Brooklyn Nets is where I had those flashes because the Brooklyn Nets just weren't playing defense. So it's hard to put a lot into this game, but it ain't the big dumper anymore. You called it. It was a dump in Charlotte last year. No, no, no, no. I know, I know. But I just want to tie in Cal Raleigh's nickname. They use the Hornets stadium. It was not the same. It just wasn't. Wasn't that great. I should say it's a bit of a dumper.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, we're joking about it, but you see this a lot of times, like an old arena, an old baseball stadium. You throw some renovations in it. It gives it a little new life to the crowd and it can sort of translate to the players. The Jays did it. Jays are in the World Series now. They did a bunch of renovations on the crappy ass Skydome. People are loving it. Oh, they got all this stuff now. Actually looks like a more modern arena or stadium. The Hawks did it not too long ago, couple years ago. And that was right around the time that they were starting. That's right, man. So there's something to it.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. I will say part of it is just the Brooklyn Nets looking.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, no, they're garbage. Yeah, they're abs. No, they're bad.

[Scott Hansen]

I think clearly they're going to be the worst team in the Eastern Conference. I know. We've debated them. Or the Wizards.

[Jay Skeets]

Do we have our teams in the nut dust Bowl? Can someone remind me, did we select them? Well, it's how we did it, that one show.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, we did. I don't have the Jazz.

[Jay Skeets]

I have the Jazz.

[Trey Kirby]

I think they got a win last night.

[Jay Skeets]

I know, it's good. And then you guys had what, the.

[Trey Kirby]

Wizards and Wizards and Nets.

[Jay Skeets]

Right. I don't know who the hell had the Nets. We'll have to go check.

[Scott Hansen]

I don't remember.

[Trey Kirby]

I just remember saying, I don't want the Jazz. I had them last year.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, I remember I got left over with the Jazz and I was like, oh, boy. But yep, look great last night. All right, one more round of this. Why not? Trey, what do you got?

[Trey Kirby]

I got you Levi. Austin. I see you watching here in the Stream team. He said ant should have been drafted in the first round and now he's dropping happen. Put some respect on the best American, Hooper. I will. It's just one game but Anthony Edwards can't be guarded. 41 last night. Seven rebounds, one assist. Who needs passing five threes and eight of eight at the free throw line for Anthony Edwards? He was mostly guarded by Tomani Kamara and Jrue Holiday too. Money. Kamara is a reigning all defense player. Drew Holiday a long time all defense player. At one point he broke Jeremy Grant's ankle on a three pointer. I rewound it. He did trip him a little bit. So on the next time down he had to mani Kamara on him and he broke his ankles instead. Had him stumbling back as he hit a step back. That was really the dagger against the Trailblazers. Saw a little bit of the post game that he talked about watching Michael Jordan watching. Kobe Bryant did a little bit of that. But I thought his in between game in general was pretty solid last night. Dante DiVincenzo also moved into the starting lineup as the point guard for Mike Conley. I don't think it went all that well. Six turnovers for DiVincenzo to only two assists. He scored seven points. I wonder how long that experiment lasts just because Conley is a good distributor. You know, I think Vincenzo can be a good playmaker. Ant can be a good playmaker. Julius Randall can be a good playmaker. But being a playmaker isn't the same as being a point guard. There's something to getting everybody involved on the team. This was more Ant Jim just going next level and looking like a guy who could lead the league in scoring. When you think of the type of player he is, he seems like a guy that should get a scoring title at some point in his career. So I think being able to get to the line eight times and you know, still be chucking up the threes. He got 10 attempts up, made five of them. That's a good recipe. Now there are a lot of high point totals in the league right now, so it's tough but I mean 41 is a good start. It doesn't have him atop the leaderboard, but I think at the end of the year he's probably top five and I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the mix for being number one.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, I agree. I do agree also that Dante DiVincenzo isn't going to start as the air quotes point guard. He had a six game stretch last year where they tried it out where he started and he was injured and so maybe that's the reason why he went back to the bench. But it doesn't feel like that's going to happen. But they're trying something other than Mike Conley, I suppose. But that's not DiVincenzo's forte, really. We saw it. I thought he should be off the bench, you know, trying it out with TJ Shannon and Rob Dillingham to see if that works because he can be easily be a six man of the year. And that was my pick for six man of the year. But it's Conley just too old. It feels even older watching him come off the bench and play 13 minutes. That's a good point.

[Jay Skeets]

He's more youthful when he's starting.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, you're playing with amazing players, so it was different. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Ant was special, though, man. Yeah, I love that game. The. The shot that sort of iced the game was like, oh, yeah, here we go. Let's go. This is good. So Anthony Edwards. Yeah, definitely sitting at the MVP table after one night of basketball.

[Trey Kirby]

No minutes, though, for Dillingham. I think that was kind of weird. They played Bones Highland, eight minutes. He got the like, you know, second guard spot off the bench and I was like, how is he a different player really than Rob Dillingham? And Dillingham's the guy that you traded a future first round pick from. You need to see what you got in Dillingham. I don't think think Bones is going to be there as a long term piece. So that was kind of curious to me. But it's just one game.

[Scott Hansen]

It's just one game.

[Jay Skeets]

Final one for you.

[Scott Hansen]

Oh, yeah. Giannis De Campo is playing his last season in the NBA. Holy list.

[Jay Skeets]

This is breaking news.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. We're here in Milwaukee opening night. A city where a Guy has given 12 years of his blood to win a championship for this city. The first one in 50 years on opening night. And the referees called a 10 second free throw violation on Giannis De Koompo on opening night. You can scrap that call. What? What? What a waste of time for Yanis Tendon Kupo. Now this is.

[Jay Skeets]

What a waste of 10 seconds?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

He's wasted our time. Yeah, I should call it every time on him.

[Scott Hansen]

Oh, come on. There's lots of stuff to look at during the free throw. There's some trash talk.

[Jay Skeets]

You are turning into Le Ellis.

[Scott Hansen]

Because I like free throw.

[Jay Skeets]

You like gourmet hot dogs and free throw Rose?

[Scott Hansen]

No, I don't like disgusting hot dogs is what I don't like. I'M not a big hot dog fan in general. Casing. No, thanks.

[Trey Kirby]

Anyway, these ones are skinless. Oh, salty.

[Jay Skeets]

Yummy.

[Scott Hansen]

Disgusting.

[Trey Kirby]

Tastes like taste. So you're like.

[Jay Skeets]

Because they called the 10 second Giannis is like, I'm over this. Get out of here.

[Scott Hansen]

Listen, I'm just over. I'm big time overreacting here, but this is a questionable year for the movie Walking Bucks. It feels a little make it or break it here. What are they going to do after trading Damian Lillard? This is what they are. Him and Miles Turner and the guys who will hopefully support him now. They destroyed the Washington Wizards yesterday, so, yeah, things are all right. Chris Middleton coming back into Milwaukee. Lots of tears, lots of hugs from Giannis to his brother, Chris Middleton. Not his brother Thanasis, who had Chris Middleton on his podcast. Fanatics. I can never say Finalysis. It's either Finalysis or final Adidix Analytics. Yeah, I know. Yeah. It's the analysis. Yeah. As. Yeah, we'll. We may talk about that on Friday show.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, my God. Again?

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it was fun. It was super fun. No, just as we talk about this.

[Jay Skeets]

Guy'S podcast more than anyone does now.

[Scott Hansen]

But Chris Middleton was funny on. It's just about Chris Middleton. Okay. And it'll be part of our rapid fire. Anyway, Giannis is not leaving the NBA. But why do you call him out a free throw violation? Come on, man. Who cares? Who cares? One extra second that he took. That was a weird.

[Trey Kirby]

Everybody else does it under 10.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Speed it up. He's been in the league for how long?

[Scott Hansen]

This is season number 13. Ridiculous.

[Jay Skeets]

Does a lot of breathing techniques, and he obviously has his whole rhythm. But. But I. I've always said I feel like he's better when he does Speed it up a little bit. It seems insane to me to sit there at the line for that long, to obviously do your breathing techniques, do your mental sort of calculations, then do whatever physical sort of repetition you're gonna do. Like, that's too long. I don't think it needs to be that long. But anyway, anyway, they killed them and he's. He's at the MVP table.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, definitely. Definitely 12 three pointers from the starting lineup outside of Giannis.

[Scott Hansen]

Wow.

[Trey Kirby]

There it is. Throw that back.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, but you like to see that from the Bucks, their support guys knocking down threes. I think it's smart of Doc Rivers to play all shooters around Giannis in the starting line. Kuzma going to the bench, A.J. green being elevated. Miles Turner, we know, is a floor stretching kind of guy, they hit 18 overall. They were a good three point shooting team last year as well. But losing Dame, it was like, how are they going to make up for his volume and his percentage on night one? They were bombs away. And if they're able to get anything from the perimeter guys, you know they're going to get stuff inside for Giannis and it just makes it easier and easier on him, which is important, so he doesn't get filed as much and he doesn't have to take so long at the line.

[Jay Skeets]

So we've touched on 11 of the 12 games, if I've been keeping track correctly. So there's one left. I'll take it here in our draft, it's just one game, but the sun's ceremonial free throw is a keeper. Here's what I mean by this. We can talk about the game in a second. Suns beat the Kings. It was good comeback, huge comeback for them, but I don't know if you guys caught this.

[Scott Hansen]

No.

[Jay Skeets]

The Suns, to start their season last night, had former center Amari Stoudemire, and they gave him the honor of shooting a free throw to sort of start the game. Think MLB first pitch. Okay, so it was pretty funny. Now, unfortunately for Stadium, he was a little too long on his free throw. Hit the back wrist. He missed. But this is a fun new addition to the pregame festivities. I love it, like, especially if you bring back legends to do it. And like, the crowd was super into it. Like, first off, it's Amari Stoudemire. Awesome. He's a legend here. Big pop, big crowd. And then they're like, all right, stat, shoot a free throw. I mean, you want to talk about pressure. Holy crap, he stepped the line and yeah, he went a little too long. But Matt Ishbia, the owner of the Suns, he's asked about it. He said, yeah, hope is to bring in former franchise players, begin games like a first pitch in the mlb. And I love it. And maybe because they also went on to get the win, they started just as badly the Suns did as Amari Stoudemire at the free throw line, breaking it because they were down big. They were down 17 at the half, got even bigger than that. But they clawed their way back. Dillon Brooks already having an impact on this team. They got a bunch of dogs and they pulled out the victory over Sacramento. So I like it. I don't know. I think it's fun. It'll be interesting to see what the percentage ends up being for these guys or whoever shoots them.

[Trey Kirby]

Can't believe he missed.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, that sucks.

[Trey Kirby]

Wouldn't happen to mj.

[Scott Hansen]

That was an honor of mj.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, maybe.

[Trey Kirby]

How can you not think of anything else? You know who didn't miss free throws? Dylan Brooks. Brutal foul by Zach Levine. Fouled them on a three pointer after just an absolute collapse from the Kings. They were looking pretty sweet through the first half of this game, even into the fourth quarter. I thought they were playing okay. Zach and tomorrow were doing their thing, but it just doesn't add up.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, Sacramento.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. No, no, I mean, Zach and demar playing together. It just doesn't add up. And we've seen it a lot.

[Jay Skeets]

Right.

[Trey Kirby]

And they find ways to lose games that they should win because every possession is impossible just with the Rosen pump faking it away.

[Jay Skeets]

And how many threes did Zach lavine take last night? He took a ton. I think he shot 2 of 15 or something in 2.

[Trey Kirby]

A 10.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, okay. Not 15. 2 and 10. A little more reasonable.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. The next thing that the Sacramento Kings should have for their next game should just be a Zach Levine shooting a free throw before the game. I mean, that. Forget about who this. What this roster is. I do like the idea of a free throw before a game. Yeah. Adam Silver absolutely loves it.

[Jay Skeets]

It.

[Scott Hansen]

He adores it. I think he. I think it's sort of honorary. It's ceremonial.

[Jay Skeets]

He's like, just don't bet on this.

[Scott Hansen]

Please don't.

[Jay Skeets]

Whatever you do. We're learning a whole lot more about that investigation too, going on. We're going to get into it, I think, on tomorrow's show, but I guess these poker games were rigged and they're bringing people in. Yeah. So that's the Billups part of it, I think Damon Jones again, back to him. They're saying he allegedly provided inside information about NBA games to co defendants who used it to play sports. But maybe that's how and why this is all tied into what headline. We'll have to unpack this a little bit more on tomorrow's Drop podcast, but yeah, not a good look here for the NBA. Not great after the basketball was quite fun. A lot of these games and huge performances from MVP guys or rookies or so on. And we tried our best to recap most of them.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, what I'm thinking, like, Shai had an awesome first game. Giannis had an awesome first game. Wemby had an awesome first game. Ja Morin, Grant, Zion, Williamson, the list goes on and on. We haven't even seen Jokic play. All of the stars are showing up so far.

[Jay Skeets]

I Mean, Luca did have a monster.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Yeah, totally.

[Jay Skeets]

Yep.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. I, I wanted to start this show just addressing that. The NBA is back. Congratulations to the NBA. It's better than ever. And then boom, Boom, boom. At 6:00am, two men in the NBA are arrested.

[Jay Skeets]

Three, I guess.

[Scott Hansen]

Well, Damon Jones. Yes, correct. Sorry, he's overlooked, unfortunately. But yeah, that was, that was unfortunate because the league just feels like it is. It's at its height in terms of play. It was. It was great night number two.

[Jay Skeets]

That was a great point. You just said that we haven't seen Jokic play yet. I sort of didn't even realize that. Who else haven't we seen then? There must be one other team.

[Trey Kirby]

I don't think it's played yet.

[Jay Skeets]

That's it.

[Scott Hansen]

Yep.

[Jay Skeets]

Yep. Okay. Well, they're playing tonight. We'll be back tomorrow with the drop podcast. But. But let's get to tonight's pick em game. Tas, you're down.02.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

So you're in a bit of a hole here because it's short months. Short months. Troll man.

[Scott Hansen]

Gonna keep digging.

[Jay Skeets]

I'm gonna keep digging under things.

[Scott Hansen]

I picked the Lakers at home to Minnesota and I knew you guys weren't on the the Lakers bandwagon.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know why I'm out on the Lakers.

[Scott Hansen]

I feel far more comfortable taking the Lakers. Minnesota going in there on a back to back. The Lakers have a two and a half point that they can play with here. They can lose by two and still cover. So I got the Lakers, you guys have the Wolves. But I could be down three games. So here we are again. I picked up. This is what happened the first night. I took the Lakers and you guys were. We're right. Yeah. And taking the warriors last night.

[Jay Skeets]

You took the Mavs, we took the Spurs.

[Scott Hansen]

The Lakers had a great press practice yesterday. Let me tell you, they will be ready.

[Jay Skeets]

Wow. You got intel on that?

[Scott Hansen]

Yep. I use the Internet.

[Jay Skeets]

Damn.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

All right.

[Scott Hansen]

It was good.

[Jay Skeets]

Well, good luck. Good luck to you. Lakers have two and a half points like T said to play with. So they could. They could lose by 2 and t would still win. We'll be back tomorrow to break down those games that happened tonight. Seeing some of the new teams and a whole lot more. Worst of the week rapid fire. It's a drop on Friday, baby. We got new no dungs merch. Order the latest no dunks T shirt crew neck today and get 25% off with the promo code. No Dunks25 go to no Dunks.com or hit the link in our show notes. Our founding members on substack. You have received an email about said shirt, so please reply to it as soon as possible. And we're gonna get all of you one of those new no dunks new era T shirts for freaking. For helping us out on substack as a founding member.

[Scott Hansen]

Appreciate. Appreciate that. Well, before we go, I made a huge blunder.

[Jay Skeets]

What happened?

[Scott Hansen]

That game isn't today. It's tomorrow.

[Jay Skeets]

Tomorrow.

[Scott Hansen]

That's our friends.

[Jay Skeets]

That's a Friday night game.

[Scott Hansen]

That's our friends from FanDuel's mistake. I'm putting that on them. But yeah, it's my fault. It's my fault.

[Jay Skeets]

That's all right.

[Scott Hansen]

So what do you guys want to do?

[Trey Kirby]

Warriors Nuggets -2 for the Warriors.

[Jay Skeets]

Is the line. Okay, you pick first. You pick first. Warriors Nuggets minus two.

[Scott Hansen]

Because I want to make.

[Jay Skeets]

Well, we make it two and a half, I guess, right? We always make it.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. Golden state favored by 2 1/2 at home.

[Trey Kirby]

Nuggets for me.

[Scott Hansen]

That's the pick.

[Jay Skeets]

Are you going that too?

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah, I'll go Nuggets.

[Jay Skeets]

So I get here. I'm gonna take the Warriors. That's fine. I'll take the Warriors.

[Scott Hansen]

Warriors. It's up to you. You want to take the Nuggets? I'll take the Warriors.

[Jay Skeets]

I thought the rule with pick' em was when you are in last place, you pick first.

[Scott Hansen]

Well, you also don't pick the wrong game. You don't pick the game that shouldn't have been on.

[Jay Skeets]

I got nothing to do with that. I just make the graphic, my friend. We all look. Put it in.

[Scott Hansen]

That's all I do, everybody.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, so I'll take the warriors minus two and a half. You guys got the nugs plus two and a half Fast. Good luck to everybody touching those dogs, man. No, no, no. All right. Wow, What a show. Hey, we got another one coming up. If you're a Survivor fan at 1pm Eastern, Nora's gonna come join us here in studio. We're gonna talk about episode five. I thought it was boring as. You're right. But we'll have some fun. Yes, we always have fun when it comes to talking about Survivor, but it sucked. Carry a cage. I mean, this may have been the coolest part of the whole episode.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I like that. And when they were talking about mukbangs.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah, mukbangs.

[Trey Kirby]

Talk about mukbangs. I throw a bunch of hot dogs.

[Jay Skeets]

On the table and eat them up. I learned what that was. Oh, I didn't know. Yeah. Do you watch these videos? No, no.

[Trey Kirby]

But I'm familiar with the.

[Jay Skeets]

Do you know what the genre.

[Scott Hansen]

No, I do not.

[Jay Skeets]

Do you know the genre? Explain it to him real quick.

[Trey Kirby]

Literally get a bunch of food together.

[Jay Skeets]

And eat it and like, people, like, love watching it. Like ASMR sort of type stuff.

[Scott Hansen]

I didn't know it by name, but I've heard of. Of that trend. Yes.

[Jay Skeets]

We. I wouldn't make. Is there money to be made? Should we be doing it? Three guys sitting around eating cold, wet hot dogs.

[Trey Kirby]

If we should do the same thing every time but up the number of dogs.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah. Make the. I could make.

[Trey Kirby]

Probably that would be successful. We can always get that one guy on Twitter, love hot dogs to.

[Jay Skeets]

I'm that guy.

[Trey Kirby]

Always get tweets on inside the NBA.

[Scott Hansen]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Makes you think it's an inside job.

[Scott Hansen]

Yeah. He works there.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, yeah. So it was.

[Jay Skeets]

You think I didn't know that. Do you think Kobayashi or Joey Chestnut, like, reached out to him to get that handle?

[Trey Kirby]

100%.

[Jay Skeets]

100%. That's a good handle for a competitive eater.

[Trey Kirby]

Is it just eat hot dogs or.

[Scott Hansen]

I eat hot dogs. There's an eye. There's an eye. I love hot dogs. Or it's I. There's an eye.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Scott Hansen]

Cool story.

[Jay Skeets]

Find a way to end moving. This is great. All right, we'll be back tomorrow with the Drop podcast. Embrace the day.

[Scott Hansen]

No Clipper, bro.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah. No clipper bow. The music's been going for so long.

[Scott Hansen]

I know.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Let's see the Clipper bros. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

This hot dogs have a great time. Turn up.

[Jay Skeets]

Love you guys.

[Trey Kirby]

Hot dogs.

[Jay Skeets]

Embrace the name, people.

[Scott Hansen]

Ah, come on.

[Jay Skeets]

Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.

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[Trey Kirby]

Whoa.

[Scott Hansen]

This thing moves.

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[Trey Kirby]

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[Trey Kirby]

Power up the fun with exclusive new games like Mario Kart World.

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[Jay Skeets]

Nintendo Switch 2 all together, anytime, anywhere.

[Trey Kirby]

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[Jay Skeets]

Wednesdays on BET an all new episode of 106 in Sports from executive producers LeBron James and Maverick Carter. Ashley, Nicole Moss and Cam Newton break down top moments in sports, culture and Entertainment. Check out 106 in sports on BET and next day on BET.