Shimmy Shimmy NAW, Lakers Frustrate KD, Vegas-Seattle Expansion News

Summary

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No Dunks — "Shimmy Shimmy NAW, Lakers Frustrate KD, Vegas-Seattle Expansion News"

Date: March 17, 2026
Hosts: Jay Skeets, Tas Melis, Trey Kirby, JD

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Overview

In this lively St. Patrick’s Day episode, the No Dunks crew (Skeets, Tas, Trey, and JD) deliver in-depth and humorous takes on the latest NBA action and league news. They break down standout performances (Nikhil Alexander-Walker’s career night), high-stakes win streaks, the Lakers’ gritty defense stalling Kevin Durant, fresh expansion news for Vegas and Seattle, and ponder expansion draft implications. Listeners' questions spark creative banter about NBA team nicknames, GM hot seats, obscure trades, and pop culture crossovers.

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Highlighted Discussion Points

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1. Hawks’ Tenth Straight Win & Nikhil Alexander-Walker’s Breakout Game

Wedgie Update:

• [03:31] Opening with excitement over two “wedgies” from the previous night, pushing the season tally to a new record 64 and closing in on the "Barry Bonds home run record of 73."
  • “We ain't done. 70, the new goal.” — Skeets [04:36]
  • “Garland... one of the deepest wedgies we’ve ever had.” — Skeets [04:36]

Hawks v. Magic Recap:

• [05:51] Nikhil Alexander-Walker explodes for a career-high 41 points (9 threes), besting the visiting Magic in Atlanta, marking Hawks’ 10th consecutive victory.
  • “This is the biggest game they’ve had this season... the Hawks just looked really, really good. Very crisp on offense. 33 assists on 43 makes.” — Tas [05:59]
  • “They just led basically the entirety of the game. Never really let Orlando back in.” — Skeets [09:10]

Other Notables:

• Jalen Johnson: another triple-double (24pts, 15reb, 13ast) [09:43]
• Crowd scene: Magic City wings, bootleg shirts (“NBA hates lemon pepper wings”), and halftime with TI [12:18]
  • “Every single person that I was in line with was going for the wings. And guess what? They were delicious.” — Tas [12:33]
  • “TI...did the chorus of maybe every song he’s ever made.” — Trey [13:21]

Most Improved Player Odds:

• Jalen Duren favored, Jalen Johnson second, Alexander-Walker third (“He’s at least on the short list... almost doubled up his points per game.” — Skeets [10:44])

Streak Watch:

• Schedule preview: could the Hawks get the streak to 14 with upcoming games vs. Dallas, Houston, Warriors, Grizzlies? [14:22]

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2. Lakers’ Defense Shuts Down KD & Rockets

Game Recap:

• Lakers grab a 100-92 win over the Rockets, marking their sixth straight victory. [15:09]
• Fourth quarter described as a “rock fight”: Lakers defense shuts down Houston, holding them to 12 points.
  • “Kevin Durant just wasn’t himself...seven turnovers in total, some real mental mistakes...just completely thrown off.” — Trey [15:30]
  • “They had zero counter...It looked like he’d never seen a double team before in his life.” — Tas [18:38]
• Notable that Lakers’ unlikely heroes, Marcus Smart and Deandre Ayton, seal the game in crunch time. [17:32]
  • “Marcus Smart splashing that three with two minutes left, talking trash to those Rockets fans in the front row.” — Trey [20:44]

Rockets’ Troubles:

• “This is why you can’t really take the Rockets seriously coming into the playoffs...” — Tas [19:02]
• Fred VanVleet’s injury timeline discussed; return remains uncertain, impacting Houston’s clutch potential. [22:22]
• Good news: Chris Bosh returns as studio analyst after medical scare. [22:36]

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3. Other NBA Action & Notable Stats

Celtics vs. Suns:

• [23:22] Celtics beat Suns behind Jaylen Brown’s huge fourth quarter (41pts, 18pts in Q4, 19-of-21 FTs).
  • “They just play like it makes sense...they look like the team to beat to me in the Eastern Conference.” — Tas [24:55]
  • “Jalen Brown and those MVP chants were loud and clear...” — Trey [25:07]

Quick Hits:

• Triple-double for Josh Giddey (his 12th, five in March alone). [27:09]
• Matas Buzelis joins elite 100 blocks/100 threes club this season. [27:19]
• Spurs beat Clippers as Wemby faces off with Brook Lopez, who wins the tip (!). Arena stunts include inflatable aliens for Wembanyama. [29:16]
• Darius Garland’s deep “toilet bowl” shot and wedge highlight (“In the arena that has the most toilets...they think of everything.” — Trey [30:59])

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4. Vegas & Seattle NBA Expansion

Breaking News:

• Owners to vote on formally exploring expansion to 32 teams, adding Las Vegas and Seattle. Expansion targeted for 2028-29 season. [33:00]
• Financial breakdown:
  • “Industry execs project proposals in the $7 to $10 billion range for each team...each current team could get $500 million.” — Skeets [34:44]
• Supersonics’ history (name, records, branding) will return to Seattle. [35:28]
• Discussion: Vegas’ crowded sports market potential, arena situations, and possible names (Venom, Vipers, Kings, Jacks). [36:37]
• Eastern conference realignment: Minnesota, Memphis, or New Orleans candidates to move East. Hosts favor Minnesota due to Midwest proximity. [39:03]

On Expansion’s Roster Impact:

• “You’re rolling your eyes a little bit...we got 10 teams that don’t care right now.” — Tas [40:27]
• “Think we have enough talent...it’s more about coaching and opportunity.” — Trey [41:17]
• Speculation: Could LeBron join a Vegas bid group? KD’s twilight in Seattle? [42:21]
  • “He’s been priced out of the Vegas team at this point...Katie going back to Seattle, that’s cool.” — Tas [42:52]

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5. Beach Steppin’ Listener Questions & Pop Culture

NBA Team Nicknames (47:09)

• No strong current team monikers, but brainstormed ideas:
  • Pistons: “Nasty Dogs”, “Pistones”, “Sandy Swimsuits”
  • Spurs: “War of the World”, “Men in Black” (from commenter Ziggy) [51:13]
  • Thunder: “Grift and Grind”
  • Warriors: “The Hangover”
  • Nuggets: “Gold Rush”
  • Magic: “The Gathering”

GM Hot Seats (52:14)

• Daryl Morey (Sixers): “not long for the job”
• John Horst (Bucks): Possible if Giannis leaves/failure to draft well
• Dumars & Weaver (Pelicans): “have to move on,” badly constructed roster
• Joe Cronin (Blazers): On the hot seat as rebuild stumbles [57:12]

Obscure Trades That Haunt (55:28)

• Nikhil Alexander-Walker dealt for injured Joe Ingles (“A date that lives in infamy, perhaps only to me.” — listener Jamal)
• Bulls’ 2021 Lowry Markkanen trade; draft pick still not conveyed.
• Raptors' Siakam trade: “Garbage in retrospect.” — Skeets [58:32]
• Raptors trade sending Gravis Vasquez to Bucks led to Norman Powell, OG Anunoby picks—rewriting team fortunes.

Weirdest Personal Crossovers (60:48)

• Survivor contestant watches NBA stars tear their Achilles, then tears his own on the show, returns home to witness Tyrese Haliburton suffer same fate in NBA Finals.
• Mr. Beast set to feature on Survivor.
• Other crossovers: Nike coffee tee, Ed Sheeran cameo on Game of Thrones, Oscars’ Fast & Furious shout-out.

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Notable Quotes

• “Every single person that I was in line with was going for the wings. And guess what? They were delicious.” — Tas Melis [12:33]
• “We ain't done. 70 the new goal.” — Skeets [04:36]
• "They just led basically the entirety of the game. Never really let Orlando back in." — Skeets [09:10]
• “They had zero counter...It looked like he’d never seen a double team before in his life.” — Tas [18:38]
• “I mean, the fourth quarter was a goddamn rock fight… but those big plays by the Lakers right down the stretch.” — Skeets [17:32]
• “I think the Timberwolves should be the team [to move East].” — Tas [38:54]
• “Do you need D. Anthony Melton leading a team?” — Tas [41:17]
• “The Hangover. The good days are gone, man.” — Trey, on the current Warriors [49:38]
• “A date that lives in infamy, perhaps only to me…” — listener Jamal [55:28]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Wedgie record broken, show open: [03:31]
• Hawks vs. Magic recap, Nikhil Alexander-Walker MVP night: [05:51]–[12:00]
• Magic City wings & crowd culture: [12:18]
• Hawks win streak, upcoming schedule: [14:22]
• Lakers-Rockets rock fight, Lakers’ defense smothers KD: [15:09]–[22:36]
• Celtics-Suns, Jaylen Brown’s 41 and offense talk: [23:22]–[25:07]
• Quick NBA results, Giddey, Buzelis, Garland, etc.: [26:37]–[30:59]
• Vegas-Seattle expansion news and realignment discussion: [33:00]–[41:17]
• Expansion impact/lebron/KD theory: [42:21]
• Listener question – team nicknames: [47:09]
• GM axe watches: [52:14]
• Obscure trade talk: [55:28]
• NBA/Survivor/personal crossovers, Mr. Beast on Survivor: [60:48]

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Tone & Style

True to No Dunks form: playful, irreverent, stats-savvy, creatively lateral, and audience-inclusive. The hosts deliver deep-cut trivia, fan-favorite “wedgie” talk, and a steady stream of jokes mixed with sharp hoops insights.

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For NBA fans, this episode captures all the vibrant weirdness, competitive obsession, pop culture crossover, and high-stakes league business that makes the NBA—and No Dunks—a unique, daily must-listen.

Transcript

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[Tas Melis]

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[Jay Skeets]

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[Jay Skeets]

Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the no Dunks podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Tuesday, March 17, 2026. Happy St. Patrick's Day. I'm Jay Skeets here in the classic factory. And alongside me, as always, Tas Melis.

[Trey Kirby]

All the Patrick's out there. Everyone who knows a Patrick, this one's for you.

[Jay Skeets]

Next to him, it's my top shot, hot boy, Trey Kirby.

[Tas Melis]

Ayo.

[Jay Skeets]

Hey, yo. And last but not least, making the magic happen, super producer jd.

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

Hello.

[Jay Skeets]

There he is, everybody. Dressed in green, some guys in hats tasked with the classic backwards baseball cap. And Trey Kirby with one of the biggest hats I've ever seen.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, this is a cheve brand top hat.

[Jay Skeets]

Jesus, that thing is huge.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, it's really big.

[Trey Kirby]

JD had to reframe the camera shot. Let's get this in the frame.

[Jay Skeets]

That is a good looking hat.

[Tas Melis]

It's really tall. Very tall.

[Jay Skeets]

Is it light or heavy?

[Tas Melis]

Your. Yeah, it's super light. You want to try it on?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, sure. Watch this. I'll be able to put my entire head in it. I told you that is very light. Oh, you look cool, man.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, it looks good on you.

[Trey Kirby]

It actually fits better because I've got a hat underneath it.

[Jay Skeets]

Hey, can I borrow your hat to wear that hat? All right, thanks for joining us again. Happy St Patrick's Day. On today's show, we'll recap a few of last night's games, including Trey Kirby's report from down at the fortress here in Atlanta where he watched a totally normal Monday night basketball game.

[Tas Melis]

It's just a simple Monday.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, nothing special about it. But the Hawks won. We'll get into that later. We're going to hit the beach to answer a few of your NBA adjacent questions. But first, history has been made. Pop the champagne or at least let's have a green beer to celebrate. Two wedgies last night. Number 63 was Denny Avdia blocking Drake Powell in Brooklyn. That's wedgie. 63 ties the all time record for wedgies in a season. But we weren't done late in the night. Darius Garland with the moon ball wedgie. Three point attempt over Wemby to give us 64 wedgies. A new record task for wedgies in a season. And we're not done, baby.

[Trey Kirby]

Look at that. Look at that graphic. Whoa.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

When we started tracking These back in 14, 15, 50 was a big deal. Now 64, come on. No big deal.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean 70, of course in play. And now we're hoping to eclipse Barry Bonds home run record of 73.

[Tas Melis]

We gotta chase him down.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, that's what we're doing. That's what we're doing. I mean people were saying this on blue sky, on Twitter last night that Darius Garland won maybe one of the deepest wedgies we've ever had. Like he's a. He's a couple feet behind the three point line, cuz Wemby's out there. I think they're right. I mean we'd have to go check the database, but it might be the longest distance, I guess is a better way to put it. Wedgie.

[Trey Kirby]

I think he was going for it last night. He knew the number that we had achieved because he took a couple bombs yesterday and one became a Toilet bowl, which we'll get to later. Shout out to Ralph Lawler, who was really the originator of the word wedgie. We popularized it, but whenever I hear wedge or I see a wedgie, I hear wedgie, I hear Ralph.

[Jay Skeets]

And it's a good point that the record breaking wedgie happened. Happened in la. That's where Ralph Lawler would have been theoretically on the call for that. That's great. So 64 wedgies. We ain't done 70. The new goal I guess here. But let's get April. No, it's March 17th. Yeah, lots of basketball still be played. So let's talk about some of those games last night. And yeah, I want to start with you going down to the Four Fortress. You know, it was Magic City Monday game which was canceled. The promotion at least canceled, but it was all the stuff still happening. And Nikhil Alexander Walker scored a career high 41 points as the Hawks beat the Magic 124, 112 for their 10th straight victory.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, clearly a lot of people had bought tickets for the Magic City game. Turned into just the Magic being in the city on a Monday. And it was good for the Hawks because this is the biggest game they've had this season. Playing their best competition that they've had during this win streak. Finally getting out of the ninth seed with their 10th straight win. And the arena was a buzz and I think it was a really impressive performance for the Hawks. Them and the Magic coming into the season. You throw in the Pistons as well. Were three teams that had like pretty similar expectations. Can they take a step forward? The Pistons did it. The Magic were disappointing but have gotten things together here and then the Hawks just look great last night. So to see these two teams that are kind of in the same sort of area, especially now with playing well, both trying to avoid the play in tournament I think was great and the Hawks just looked really, really good. Very crisp on offense. They had 33 assists on 43. Makes quite the difference from an Orlando team that just looked completely stuck in the mud. Poor shooting performance from Paulo, not a lot of creation outside of him. Desmond Bane did okay getting to his own shots, but they just looked like they were really lacking but ball movement and elite creator for others. And they're certainly at a disadvantage athleticism wise against the Hawks like Anthony Black would have been very helpful in this game because the three guards of Daniels, Nikhil Alexander Walker and C.J. mcCollum that was really given Orlando problems with the guard guard screening action. Nikhil Alexander Walker was the big beneficiary here, 41 points, a career high. Hit nine threes. And a lot of these threes were wide open. Just the Magic being completely confused. Walker hit or Alexander. Walker hit a couple of big ones with Orlando rallying in the fourth quarter, but I thought his defense on Bain was also excellent. Jalen Johnson just setting everything up. When he would see bodies, he would be able to get off it. You compare him to the way Paola was playing. When he would see bodies. We kind of try and force up a shot just because the playmaking is not quite the same. So great win for the Hawks against the Magic.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. I don't know if the arena or the team was ready for the Orlando Magic just because this was Magic city night, but they were far more ready than the Orlando Magic were. They just were ready to play. And the Magic coming in with a seven game win streak, but they were just outdone. This is. It was honestly watching from home not all that exciting. Unless you're a Hawks fan. To watch Nikhil Alexander Walker drop 41, they were just outdone everywhere. Offensive boards, you know, 15 to 8. It just wasn't all that fun, to be quite honest. The Magic just weren't ready.

[Jay Skeets]

No, you're right. But you know, I'll add to that. The Hawks go up early. Okay, it's 3421. But you've watched a lot of Atlanta Hawks games, either in person or just watching on tv. We live here in Atlanta. If you don't know how many times does the Hawks have maybe a good first quarter, a good first half, and they let teams come back all the time. Like the Hawks are just like either down 15 or up 15. It's never a game you can't leave. It's always going to get close. Usually it really didn't. Like that was the most impressive part. They sort of just dominated from tip right to the end to the point where they were pissing off the Magic right at the end. Had a little shoving match after Nikhil Alexander, I guess, attempted to hit his 10th three pointer and it was like hijinks. Just. People were pissed, pissed off. The Magic were pissed off. They got punked. But it was impressive. Yes.

[Tas Melis]

The Hawks hate being.

[Jay Skeets]

The Hawks hate being. Yeah, but I just couldn't believe, like they just led basically the entirety of the game. They never really let Orlando back into it.

[Trey Kirby]

No, not at all. When you've got a. A three ball coming from C.J. mcCollum that can bounce on the floor and then the Atlanta Hawks are able to Retrieve it. I mean, you know that they ain't ready. And that was the one that was passed to Jalen Johnson for that monster Runway dunk, which was.

[Tas Melis]

That was nice.

[Trey Kirby]

Fantastic. That was I think the highlight of the night other than Nikhil Alexander Walker continuous continuing to do what he's doing this season.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, Jalen Johnson, the triple double. You said awesome. Triple double. 24 points, 15 boards, 13 assists. And he is a triple double machine right now. One of the leaders obviously this season, but great win. My final thought on Nikhil Alexander Walker, they must, they must have figured out like when you pass this guy the ball for a three point shot, put it high. He loves to catch. Like his release is wild. It's so high on his body and he has the ability to then go into his shot, you know, more guys a little bit more lower in the pocket to maybe create the energy from their legs and into the shot. Not him throw it high. It's like basically like near is like just under his chin and then he just lets it rip. But he was feeling himself a lot of threes and guess he's like, he's at least on the short list. And I know we have the odds from FanDuel for most improved player. I don't think he's going to win. If anything, he might lose it to his own teammate in Jalen Johnson. But the odds are Jalen Duran, then Jalen Johnson and a little bit lower. Nikhil Alexander Walker at 1500. But a guy that has almost doubled up his points per game. So deserving to be in at least consideration.

[Trey Kirby]

Absolutely. Done and done.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, Jordan on the broadcast, I don't know his last name. They just kept calling him Jordan on

[Trey Kirby]

he started with a B. Cornet.

[Tas Melis]

Is he Jordan Cornett, something like that?

[Trey Kirby]

I don't know. Yeah, yeah, he wasn't. Well, usually it's Robbie Hummel spot. Yeah. But yeah, he got to sit beside Buddy Hill. Buddy Hill jumped on the broadcast.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, I saw that when I was watching the highlights back this morning. But they asked Nikhil Alexander Walker, you think he win most improved player? He said God willing. So you know he would like it. But like you're saying he's going up against his teammate and they'll probably both come in second and third.

[Jay Skeets]

His the biggest knock against him is he's going up against in today's new era of mip, like you have to turn into an all Star. That's what these guys ahead of him basically did. Right. Jalen Duran's the favorite. Do we have this graphic JD or no. Okay. Jalen Duran. Jalen Duran minus 140. Jalen Johnson plus 300. Denny Avdia plus 400. And then Nikhil Alexander Walker at plus 1500. Like, he's. He is improved, of course, and he's on one of the best deals in the league. We talked about that when we were doing our underrated sort of players draft. Nikhil Alexander Walker. But the other guys, you know, they're the level up, so to speak, in the mip. And one of them will win this. And again, Duran's the favorite.

[Trey Kirby]

Is it a 4 for 64? 4 years. 64 million, something like that.

[Jay Skeets]

Same amount of 60.

[Trey Kirby]

Same amount of wedgies as millions. Just like Max Truce. I think we said 4 for 64, max truce yesterday. 64 is just coming out like crazy.

[Tas Melis]

Wow.

[Trey Kirby]

Over the last 24 hours. So you had those wings. Did you have the line?

[Tas Melis]

I did have those wings. I waited 20 minutes in line.

[Jay Skeets]

Wow.

[Tas Melis]

For the Magic City wings. Well, let me say, they were not branded, not in any way, shape or form. It was just lemon pepper and lemon pepper barbecue. But they had a big lineup, lot of people waiting. Every single person that I was in line with was going for the wings. And guess what?

[Trey Kirby]

They were good.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, they look good.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, they were delicious.

[Jay Skeets]

But they were fries. Looked.

[Tas Melis]

They were. Yeah, the fries were good. Standard fry. Yeah, that's a dirty Sprite right there.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Melis]

In honor of my good friend, Future. Did see a lot of bootleg Magic City gear.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, for sure.

[Tas Melis]

Because apparently the team can't send it out till after the game has happened because they don't want to be seen flaunting the rules. But, yeah, a lot of Magic City shirts. And my favorite one that I saw, one guy in, like, the peach tree font had a shirt that just said, NBA hates lemon pepper wings. I saw him too quickly to snag a photo of him, but I thought that was pretty good. Ti was awesome. halftime, he shouted out magic City for sure. During one of his songs.

[Trey Kirby]

Right away I thought, yeah, like one

[Tas Melis]

of the first two songs. And then he did the chorus of maybe every song he's ever made.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, yes.

[Jay Skeets]

That's a hell of a medley. He did it.

[Tas Melis]

He did all medley for the first probably five minutes. Went through at least 10 songs, all the hits. And then he played his new song all the way through, which is actually pretty good. It's got a good voice.

[Trey Kirby]

It's got a solid voice.

[Tas Melis]

He's got a good old man voice. Like, he's only gotten more gravelly. As he's gotten older, as a lot of people do. I just watched the Godfather 3 recently, and Al Pacino's voice got crazy from 2 to 3. Like over 30 years of time. Didn't work for him. Works perfectly for TI Because I feel like he played it up early on in his career and now he's just naturally gravelly.

[Trey Kirby]

Nice question about lemon wings. Do you think lemon wings are the food that Atlanta is most known for?

[Tas Melis]

Absolutely, by far, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Trying to think of another one.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, it's like Waffle House. I mean, sort of like. Or Chick Fil a is what I think of.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Or even a chicken biscuit sandwich. Like. Like a specific type of food.

[Tas Melis]

Those are restaurants, but yeah, straight up food. It's lemon pepper wings.

[Jay Skeets]

How long can the Hawks extend this winning streak, too? They have two games on the road in Texas. They play in Dallas on Wednesday, and they play in Houston on Friday. And then they come home and play the warriors and Grizzlies and then like their next big, big competition. I know the Rockets are a good team. Then they got to play Detroit and Boston. I mean, I guess they could get this thing. They could get it to 14. The way they're playing, they'd have to beat Houston. That would be a big one. That's a big one. Friday night. But some of that other competition, they should. Of course, they'll be favored and probably will win those the way they're rolling right now.

[Trey Kirby]

And they've moved up to technically eighth spot.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, they're out of the ninth spot. They've done it.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay. As. As tra. We made a short of it yesterday and how they've stuck in the ninth spot this entire win streak until the Magic City. It's. It's magic. It's magic.

[Jay Skeets]

Let's go to Luca leading the lakers to the 192 victory over the Rockets to bring them up here for LA's sixth straight victory. What'd you think of Houston's fourth quarter performance? It's something you've talked about a lot. And there were a lot of turnovers and they shot the ball poorly. And Durant's basically saying, my bad. This is on me, how I handled the double that they were throwing at me.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, they got to him. Simple as that. They kind of threw him off. You saw Kevin Durant turn over and over and over seven times in total. You saw some of them just by LeBron James, literally just let go of the ball back up and put his heel on the mid court line. Then he had an 8 second violation to go over half court. He almost had a second eight second violation, which I was completely shocked by. It was, it was easily just. The play was double and then let them try and go four on three. But he was kind of on his back heel. I mean, he threw one into Luca Doncic's leg. It just was three. He was just completely thrown off. And I don't know if part of it was that odd flagrant call that he shouldn't have got called for. I mean, she threw Austin Reeves, but after that he was just off. And yes, Alper and Shengun wasn't out there to be his outlet. But there were times, you know, man, Thompson did a good job. There were some Reed shepherd moments, he threw down a dunk. But all in all, Kevin Durant just wasn't himself. And then you look at the other side in a clunch clutch time situation. The Lakers came through. Not, not just the top three, but besides, you know, Luca, who was awesome, LeBron and Austin Reeves, the classic stuff. Those other two guys, Marcus Smart and DeAndre just came through. It was easily just. Just those guys just doing their thing to help out the top three offensively. Just exactly what they drew up at the beginning of the season. I mean, even Jabari did a good job. Jori Smith did a good job of guarding Luca Doncic one possession, then he threw it to LeBron. LeBron just has to be the outlet guy. Swing, swing. Marcus Smart splash. And then there goes Marcus Smart just getting in your face, ripping a ball out of Amend Thompson's hands. He dove to the floor. When they're up 10 with 35 seconds left, he just dove to the floor. Deandre Ayton, offensive board with a minute 15 left. Another offensive board of 55 seconds left, then a smart assist for a hook with 43 seconds left. Yeah, one team was really good at clutch and the other was not.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, the fourth quarter was a goddamn rock fight. It was 17 to 12 in the fourth. But those big plays by the Lakers right down the stret where Houston had no answer to score.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, Lakers went 8 of 34 from 3, scored 100 points and won fairly easily when it came down to it. That's why I think this is more of a bad loss for the Rockets than a great win for the Lakers. Just because Durant was brutal, he took all the blame afterwards, took some accountability, saying, this is all on me. I didn't handle the double teams well. And that's a bit of an understatement. 12 points, like you're saying in the fourth quarter they had seven turnovers in the fourth, four made shots, 15 turnovers in the second half, just in the fourth quarter alone they had a three minute scoreless drought and a three and a half minute scoreless drought. That's half the quarter. You can't win that way. They had zero counter to anything the Lakers were doing. They would wait sometimes to double him. They would bring a double right away sometimes and basically no matter which way they were doing was going to be a turnover from Kevin Durant. It looked like he'd never seen a double team before in his life. He's a little overtasked at this point in his career as the primary playmaker. The guy is a scorer and he was saying, I was just trying to play one on five, maybe I should go hang out in the corner.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, he's just get out of the way. He said, yeah, I mean on a

[Tas Melis]

night like this, maybe so, but what's the other options? Yeah, there is no other options with no Shangun. So I don't know. It's a little bit on coaching, it's a little bit on kd. To me, he's just had a really, really bad game and the availability was a problem. But this is why you can't really take the Rockets all that seriously. I don't think coming into the playoffs if it's this easy to scheme them out of a game.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, and, and Kevin Durant had an awesome first half. He was 7, 11, 16 points. But then like I said, something mentally got to him where he was just again on his back foot a little bit more, turning the ball over a little bit more. When you're doubling him from so, so far away from the hoop, it's clear there's a four on three opportunity a lot. And just the other guy, and especially, you know, Tar Eason was not good at being that outlet guy during Finney Smith, not great being that outlet guy again. Men, Thompson did it a little bit, but they just needed, they needed somebody and maybe Sengun could have been a little bit more of that guy and looked like it was going to be sort of Reed shepherd to start this game. But he, you know, he is definitely exploited on the defensive end. There's no doubt about that. And Eme got right into his face at one point. But they just, they need that Fred who's on the bench. Yeah, in that number one seat right beside the coaches. But he can't get out and play

[Jay Skeets]

for the Lakers defensive side of things. They ranked 20th in the league overall. In defensive efficiency, giving up 115.7 points per 100 possessions. But over this streak here where they've won nine to 10, they have a top six defense over these last 10 games. So obviously there's been improvement there. And I think you're right, T.K. it's like, well, was this a more impressive Lakers win or sort of a worse Rockets loss? I think I would lean towards the Rockets as the loss, but at least the defense won the Lakers a game because again, that was an ugly fourth quarter. You know, they weren't hitting either. They scored 17 points. That's garbage. But they got it done with their defense and the and the guys doing the dirty work there. So that's something because a lot of these wins have been because of offensive performances, you know, huge Luca games, huge Reeves games and so on. But you know, they got one of these ugly ones which are going to happen in the playoffs and in series, so that's a good sign.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, we didn't even the most optimistic Laker fan did not consider going into the season Marcus Smart and deandre Ayton being the guys to come through with these clutch plays at the end and Marcus Smart splashing that three with two minutes left, talking trash to those Rockets fans in the front row. And we're here in March and they're still doing it and they are come together and they, like you said, it's been a little run here and it's mostly been offensive, just mostly their offense just pulling it out. But yeah, they have these defensive shows again. The last five minutes is what they do.

[Jay Skeets]

They play again Wednesday night. These two teams got the little mini baseball series here, so we'll see how Kevin Durant and the Rockets deal with these. I assume double teams that they're going to send his way and switch it up how they come about them. But he's going to see them again. I mean, I don't know if Shengun's going to be back, but that will help.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, he doesn't need to bring the ball up the floor. It's like you just don't need to bring it up the floor, period. Even if it's going to run through you. It hurt them in the fourth quarter. It's like what Steve Kerr did with Steph Curry the second he became the warriors head coach. You don't need to do that. You can come off the ball. Of course, here comes Inga$Whoever just bring up the ball. But yeah, they're pressuring him in the back again. Almost two backcourt violations. He was just thrown off having to dribble 18 times on that McDonald's court. How you guys feel about, you know, red and yellow jerseys on a red mustard catch.

[Jay Skeets]

Hot dogs.

[Trey Kirby]

I don't mind.

[Tas Melis]

Happens. Yeah, it happens. You know the Rockets, that's one of their clutch looks. That's their championship look, right in yellow. Same with the Kansas City Chiefs. If you're good, it looks good, and if not, it looks like condiments.

[Trey Kirby]

What would be clutch? Is Fred Van Vee playing? And I know I'm super excited and I'm the most optimistic Fred Van Vliet injury return guy out there. It's nearing six months after tearing the acl, so technically he could be coming back, but it sure doesn't feel that way. He was on his podcast unguarded and he did talk about it and he didn't rule out coming back, but he also didn't guarantee he's coming back. So it's, it is, you know, mid March, so it's getting later and later and later. Unfortunate news there. Good news. Seeing Chris Bosch do the pregame in the studio, seeing him out there after that medical scare that he had recently. So it's good to see him broadcasting basketball, period.

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[Jay Skeets]

Brown, 18 of his 41 in the fourth quarter last night. Yeah, nice little duel there with Devin Booker. The shot making between these guys as the Celtics beat the Suns by eight. Brown did attempt a lot of free throws, Trey. Career high 21 free throw attempts. He went 19 to 21. So I hit a lot of them too. But I bring that up because this is a guy that has spent a good portion of the season complaining about the, the whistle that he gets or doesn't get and the, and the lack of attempts. So 21. It's actually the most free throw attempts by a Celtics player since Paul Pierce 2007. That's right. You gotta go way back.

[Tas Melis]

That's a lot of time, actually.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, exactly. But yeah, your takeaways from Celtics beating the Suns here.

[Tas Melis]

Celtics have a very professional offense. Like, I feel like they don't miss a trick on things. If there's a mismatch for any player, that guy's getting the ball in a position to score, whether it be a catch and shoot. Situation. Tatum catching a small guy in the post. Jalen Brown having a solid one on one matchup that he can attack. If you're the guy that should be getting the shot, you're going to get the shot. And that's really what stood out to me. They just play like it makes sense. They've got a lot of lineup, versatility. They ran out of lineup. They haven't played at all until last night. Now that Tatum is back, I thought he looked pretty good as well. Jalen Brown has taken a step forward as a scorer. Tatum is getting better and better. More comfortable jumping off of both legs, finishing with both hands. This team is clicking right now and they're getting better with the addition of Tatum. We'll see what happens when Vuch comes back. But Garza was okay. I hear Drew Carter is calling Namish Keita Neem the dream now. Kind of nice, maybe a bit of

[Jay Skeets]

an overreach, but it sounds good.

[Tas Melis]

Sounds good and he's playing well. So I just was, I was just really impressed with the Celtics and they look like the team to beat to me in the Eastern Conference.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, the way they closed it 142 run in the last 4:46 after giving the ball over on three consecutive possessions. Jalen Brown kind of off one foot, then Pritchard, then Tatum. They're just turning over and it looked like a little. You squint and you start to think, remember those pace, those Celtics before that they won the championship. They just couldn't close things out. It sort of looked like that. But Jalen Brown and those MVP chants were loud and clear. To have 18 points in the fourth quarter and to have. I, I, like you said about the Boston Celtics offense, it's. I mean they are just, they're perfect. It feels like. And on the other side, I, I love this coaching matchup. Missoula versus Jornot, I thought was great that Haywood Highsmith, Heywood Highsmith that they signed in the last couple months to go after Jaylen Brown. And it was a fun little matchup and Highsmith was doing his thing, splashing threes. And the purpose of that is you're on him. So when Dylan Brooks comes back, everybody is in their assigned role. They don't have to change a single thing. So I loved watching that. But then the Celtics defense, they closed it out. I mean, the Brown Steel on Booker, blindsiding him. Then a K to block on Highsmith, he looked like the dream out there. And K staying with Booker, just being able to shuffle with him, stripping him, jump ball Then he altered his shot with a minute 30 left, making him pass out. And then Pritchard drew the offensive foul on Booker. They closed this thing out and they look like the team to beat in the Eastern Conference period.

[Jay Skeets]

Other results from last night? I'll chuck them up here for everybody. On YouTube, you had the warriors beating the Wizards. They finally got a dub. Porzingis played. Hey, played well. Blazers beat the Nets. The Bulls beat the Grizzlies. A lot of highlights I saw in that Chicago Bulls game. Zealous with some beauty dunks. Pelicans beat the Mavs as they continue their good play here. And spurs beat the Clippers in a close one in that late night game. The game that gave us our record breaking wedgie. 119, 115. Any takeaways from any of those results last night?

[Tas Melis]

Another triple double for Josh Giddey last night.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes, he did.

[Tas Melis]

He's got 12 this season. Five have come in seven March games.

[Jay Skeets]

That's right.

[Tas Melis]

The March man is marching.

[Trey Kirby]

That's right.

[Tas Melis]

Also got a good trivia question for you guys. Two players this season have 100 blocks and 100 three pointers. Minimums.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, it must be a reason you're asking us when, man. Buzzelis.

[Tas Melis]

That's right.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, that's right.

[Tas Melis]

Matas Buzelis became only the 22nd player all time to go for 100 and 100 in the same season. It's happened 42 total times. So you know he's had an okay season. He got benched a lot during the middle of the season, but now is the time to run wild. Matas March. Thanks for playing.

[Jay Skeets]

How'd my boy do last night? Solid. Just totally solid. Of club, of course. Plus 21 in the plus minus box score there. Leonard Miller, 10 and 7 and 2. Not a single turnover in sight.

[Tas Melis]

That's right. Way to go play finish.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, I'm loving Prosper and Leonard Miller playing each other last night. Canadians are loving this, man. Jesus. In fact, they stopped the Our Lady Peace concert to talk about it at one point. Let's just check it. They put it up on the screen behind. We watch Prosper, Leonard Miller action. It was great. Little cancon on. Cancon.

[Trey Kirby]

I'm sure you loved watching that at the hour of ludy. What I liked watching was Stefan Castle last night. I thought he was so good in that game. He just takes advantage of every opportunity he has. Even offensive rebound. The way he was crashing and grabbing and putting it back. Seven offensive boards for that guy. Yeah, I mean, he just showed his athleticism. Whenever he wanted, he went and got it. Then he was setting guys up. He had eight assists, 23 points. And then. But he knows when. When he can drive, when he can go past guys. Like, he had Brook Lopez on his back in the post, goes behind his back to spin around Brooke because he knows Brook's going to be leaning a little bit to finish it. I thought he was excellent. The whole team obviously is great when you got four guys scoring 18 plus in Castle, Wemby, Vassell and Fox. It was a fun game. It went down to the wire because that guy we mentioned, Darius Garland, was looking good. Jordan Miller looking good. Matthew looking good. It was fun without Kawhi.

[Jay Skeets]

I was gonna say we didn't bring that up on yesterday's NBA Weekend winners and losers podcast. We didn't bring up the fact that Kawhi, you know, had missed a game or left that game with an ankle injury, then didn't play in this. Any concern there with Kawhi. And I mean, I know he's going to be in jeopardy of potentially missing the 65 game threshold. These all NBA teams could get insane here. Like, we got some wild guys making it because there's like, so many guys that don't hit the quota.

[Trey Kirby]

But.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, it sucks they don't have them. They're a different team without them, though. That was a, you know, a decent response or a close game, like you said.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, yeah. The. The wall had inflatable aliens that they were throwing out there at Wemby. A bunch of those. Very funny. If it's an ankle, is that a better sign than the thing that's been keeping him out for a long time? You know, his knee?

[Jay Skeets]

I guess so.

[Trey Kirby]

I guess.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes, it is.

[Tas Melis]

I think so.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. It is an ankle injury, so it is different. Speaking of injuries, I saw Bradley Beal on the. On the Clippers bench. Oh, yeah, Bradley Beal.

[Tas Melis]

He's on that team.

[Trey Kirby]

He's on that team. Just. I just thought the whole thing, the whole arena was fun. Brook Lopez won the opening tip against Victor Wembanyama.

[Tas Melis]

Wow.

[Jay Skeets]

Really?

[Trey Kirby]

That was crazy.

[Jay Skeets]

Not many times it's happened, right? He's only lost a handful.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, yeah, he had the plan.

[Jay Skeets]

Somebody had the numbers going around. The other day, He.

[Trey Kirby]

He didn't try and tip it back. He went opposite way.

[Jay Skeets]

I guess that works, right? Yeah, just smack. You're not gonna be able to. Yeah, that's right. You can't grab it from him. You gotta slap it forward or to a guy. Good move, Brooke.

[Tas Melis]

That's huge. We Need a super cut of just players winning jump balls against Victor Wembanyama.

[Jay Skeets]

Dibs.

[Trey Kirby]

Glorious. It's glorious stuff. Also glorious. Darius Garland hitting a long shot that went down like it was going down in a toilet in the arena that has the most toilets.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh my God.

[Trey Kirby]

In the NBA. Fits so well. I wish it was. Asked about it afterwards and he just said, I heard about the toilets in this arena, but I didn't know that the rims actually make it go down like a toilet. They think of everything in the end to it.

[Tas Melis]

D One more toilet in the mix. That was a great toilet bowl. That was great.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

That's one of the best things that happens in basketball. When the ball spins at least three times around. It's so good.

[Jay Skeets]

It is exciting.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Even though like a pickup run ever happens. Like everybody.

[Trey Kirby]

But on such a far shot. I don't remember it being that deep.

[Tas Melis]

He was a trick.

[Jay Skeets]

He was a trickster last night with that one. And then the wedgie. That was also deep. He was doing it all. Any other notes from last night?

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, I gotta say, the Anthony Melton.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, baby.

[Trey Kirby]

That was a nice dunk. And then Steph Curry pulling out the Will Smith Fresh Prince of Bel Air look. That's what it looked like exactly to me. Like the stop and just like stare all the way down. It looked like Fresh Prince. Not the new Fresh Prince. The old Fresh Prince. Have you. Has anybody watched the new Fresh Prince?

[Tas Melis]

It's like the gritty reboot.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Some reason I haven't watched. Yeah, I guess it is gritty. Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

That looks more serious to me than.

[Trey Kirby]

Than old Will and our NBC days and the great Uncle Phil. Okay. Yeah, but that was a nice stop about that.

[Tas Melis]

27 points he was balling.

[Jay Skeets]

And it was Steve Kerr's 600th career victory as they got a much needed one there. As they try and get their way back to 533 and 35. The warriors are but beat the Wizard. So when you play Washington, you got a chance to win. I think they've lost. Wizards lost 12 in a row. What are the Nets up to? We got some great. I mean, the Pacers have like lost 13 in a row. There's a long losing streaks going right now.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, Trey Young is playing. That's about it. I mean, he made a nice. Like a highlight that wasn't that we used to do on the starters where he. Nice drop off pass. He was doing some fancy stuff.

[Jay Skeets]

He's trying to put on a show.

[Trey Kirby]

He was.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, I see he banged knees with somebody as well is what it looked like.

[Trey Kirby]

I didn't see the bang. Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

Set him down. Telling him when too much.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. We had some news, some updated news, I guess. NBA owners will vote next week on whether to officially explore expanding the league by two teams in Las Vegas and Seattle. If the league decides to move forward, it would need 23 of 30 owners to vote in favor. That's the. The number you got to hit. Shams reports that the two new franchises are being targeted to start play in the 20, 28, 29 season. What's that? Basically three seasons from now. There were some more details from Sham's reporting here, but we knew this was coming and it looks like it is going to go through. Any thoughts?

[Trey Kirby]

Well, you think about the 30 teams who are going to vote on this and you ask why would they do this? Because the money gets split now 32 ways that they make instead of 30. But then you see the reason why, because teams are so expensive. The expansion fee that these teams are gonna have to pay is a lot of money. And these teams all get a chunk of it. So.

[Jay Skeets]

And they don't have to share that with the players. So those, whatever these franchises go for five plus billion, probably. If not way more. That gets split, of course, between just the owners.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Our friends that are at ESPN, Tim Bontev's Bobby Marks estimated that each team would get 500 mil each from two teams costing a total of $15 billion. Because evaluations are going up. So it'd be seven and a half each. And you get 500 each for these 30 teams. So it's kind of hard to say no.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah. It means that team probably won't sell in the next three years if you've got a $500 million paycheck just waiting

[Trey Kirby]

for you, just sitting there.

[Tas Melis]

If you can wait.

[Jay Skeets]

Good point.

[Trey Kirby]

That's a very good point.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Industry executives project proposals in the $7 to $10 billion range for each team and estimate that both these markets would be among the NBA's top eight revenue generators in these places as well. That's what they're saying in Seattle, in Las Vegas. And we've seen all these valuations skyrocket over the last couple years with. With what? The Suns, Matt Ishbia purchasing them for 4 billion in 2022. And then in 2025, we had the Celtics going for 6.1 billion. Evaluation. Then the Lakers go for 10 billion. Like a record for U.S. franchises. And the Blazers were also sold in August of 2025 for 4.25 billion. So, yeah, five plus six, seven. Who knows how high these things go? Any other notes on this?

[Tas Melis]

Well, Seattle makes sense. You know, I think the. The quote was that they're the biggest city that doesn't have a team in the United States. They also have the history of the supersonics. And as Bobby Marks reported at espn, all of the Supersonics team history goes to them immediately.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

And stolen from the Thunder, who stole them, which I think is good. So that's cool. I don't know that I'm crazy about Vegas. Like, the NBA started their flirtation with Vegas when Vegas was on and popping, and they would have been the only team in town. Now they'll be the fourth team in town. And Vegas is kind of cratering as a destination for people to go to. So it will be Vegas. Probably.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

But does it need to be also? Probably not.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Seattle definitely should get it. And as we did talk about when we did our expansion draft, we talked about Key arena and how it's a very old arena, but it's got the renovations, so I thought it would be soon. I thought even 27, 28 would be the year they got it. I was wrong. It's going to be a few years down the road, but it sure feels like those are the two teams. And it feels like the Seattle Supersonics are going to be called the Seattle supersonics. Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, they will.

[Jay Skeets]

That's a no brainer.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

What will the Vegas team be called?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, we did the expansion draft. We did Las Vegas Venom.

[Jay Skeets]

We went Venom. Yeah, that's right. Vipers have been thrown around. Who knows? Let's hear your best suggestions for what will probably be a Vegas team.

[Tas Melis]

Kings would be cool.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

I mean, there's already a team called the Kings, but Kings would be very

[Jay Skeets]

cool because of the Aces in the wnba. That's a nice pairing.

[Trey Kirby]

Jacks, not so cool.

[Jay Skeets]

Not quite as cool.

[Trey Kirby]

But listen, everybody wants to watch tv. Excuse me? Everybody wants to watch sports on tv. Live sports. And that's why it costs so much for these teams because of the TV deals. And also, people want to watch basketball around the world to see part of that ESPN report that the NBA Europe League is happening. It feels like it's happening. What's going to happen Even sooner than that.

[Jay Skeets]

Right, right.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, bids for prospective teams are due on March 31. People like watching sports more so than watching these podcasts. You know, like sports. Sports are not going to podcast. No. This one's great.

[Tas Melis]

Watch this.

[Trey Kirby]

This one's Great.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

But I just mean live sports from

[Jay Skeets]

this talk of expansion. One thing people love to get into, man, people, they really get a kick out of this. The idea of, like, okay, if we add these two teams to the Western Conference, Las Vegas and Seattle, which team goes East? Because we're going to want to have some sort of balance right. Between the 32 teams and 16 in each conference. So it sounds like executives expect either the Minnesota Timberwolves or the Memphis Grizzlies to move to the east to realign conferences. Do you have a particular favorite between those two or do you want to make a case even for the Pelicans?

[Tas Melis]

Okay. I think that the Pelicans have the second best case because they used to be the Hornets, who was an Eastern Conference team. They're also very far East.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes.

[Tas Melis]

But the best case is the Minnesota Timberwolves because they are so close to the Bucks, the Bulls, the Pacers, the Cavs. Like, it makes sense that they would be lumped in with those teams travel wise. Whereas the Grizzlies, the Pelicans, they're close to, like, the Thunder and the teams in Texas. So keep those ones together. It's more regions, I suppose, than specifically Eastern and Western, but I think the Timberwolves should be the team.

[Jay Skeets]

So you think Minnesota Timberwolves go to the East? Try and wrap your head around that, man.

[Trey Kirby]

I can.

[Jay Skeets]

Wow. It's going to take me a minute. It's going to take me a minute.

[Trey Kirby]

It feels like it's east enough. That's all. Yeah. Do they fly the most miles as far as teams goes in the NBA?

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, they're up there. I think.

[Tas Melis]

I think. I think I saw that. Their closest team is the Thunder. Their closest conference team is the Thunder. And that's the farthest, closest team.

[Trey Kirby]

Sure, sure.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Right.

[Jay Skeets]

And we should probably get. I mean, if this happens or when it happens, we will probably. If we keep divisions. I mean, I don't know if we will or not, but we'll go from three divisions to four, will we not? We'll have four divisions of four teams.

[Trey Kirby]

It's the NFL, baby.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, it is.

[Jay Skeets]

So I think that will be the realignment. And then we've also talked about once we have 32 teams get excited for the NBA cup, we could have a March Madness, like bracket could do something with that.

[Trey Kirby]

You're excited.

[Jay Skeets]

I'm telling you, it's going to happen to us. You know, Silver loves it, so. Yeah. Let's hear your thoughts on which team should go East. Which team will Go East.

[Tas Melis]

One last question as NBA fans, would you vote for two more teams? Like, do you think we need to go from 30 to 32 teams?

[Jay Skeets]

Need. Probably not, but. Well, like I want Seattle to have a team back, so I'm very in pro. Of favor of that. In favor of that. I guess I should say. Yeah, we have. I think the talent is enough. I do think it is. You could. You're rolling your eyes a little bit.

[Tas Melis]

I mean, we got 10 teams that don't care right now.

[Jay Skeets]

Well, yeah, yeah, that, that's the thing. Is this just sort of an exception, this weird season with obviously a loaded draft or not. I'm. I'm more lean towards. It is. And we'll get back to a little bit more normal where we won't have like 10 quote unquote garbage teams and more of your normal three, four, whatever. So I think we'll be fine. I think we see these guys get opportunities and a lot of guys step up and like, oh yeah, there is a bigger role for some of these guys and we're going to open up 30 roster spots.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I like the idea. I, I think we can definitely put enough talent on those teams to do it. I think it's more about coaching and the organization than anything, in all honesty. Yeah. We need Keel Alexander Walker to do it. You see what he's doing. He was a backup in Minnesota. Now he gets a new role. He is good. And yeah, okay.

[Tas Melis]

I, yes, I agree. All NBA players are good. You give them the opportunity, they can score 25 a game. But do you need D. Anthony Melton leading a team?

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, well, you're, you know, I'm saying,

[Tas Melis]

like that's what it's. Look at the guys that we drafted in the expansion draft. These aren't superstars.

[Jay Skeets]

They're going to get their superstars through the draft is what they're going to do. Yeah, I mean like every expansion team.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, yeah. Instead of elevating somebody that's on a bad team or like, you know, a secondary guy on a bad team, hopefully it's more parity where there's more stars that are getting distributed a little bit more. Like, you know, for example, I, I wouldn't say Tatum is ever leaving the Celtics, but Tatum and Brown split up. You know, one of those. One of those. But again, it's all about the coaching. Like Jordan Odd is in Phoenix coaching this organization perfectly. They have one star. No disrespect to Dylan Brooks and Jalen Green, but they have Den Booker, Colin Gillespie star. In my heart but you know, they just need one. They just need one. And it's about the organization. So there's. There's going to be bad teams. Like there's in the n. It's all about the organization.

[Jay Skeets]

Here's.

[Trey Kirby]

There's enough talent.

[Jay Skeets]

Fun. Couple thoughts from our guy Ziller in his newsletter this morning. Some acute player related issues to think about with expansion. Does this timeline guarantee that LeBron plays one more season before retiring and joining one of the groups bidding on the Vegas franchise? Okay, he throws that out there. And then does this timeline set up Kevin Durant to rejoin the Seattle SuperSonics at age 40? Two thoughts to chew on there. LeBron in Vegas and maybe even KD playing and ending his career in Seattle.

[Tas Melis]

It could definitely happen.

[Jay Skeets]

I think both are definitely possible.

[Tas Melis]

I mean, LeBron is playing another season. I don't think. I think it's crazy that people think he's going to retire this year. Okay, so he's going to play another season. But I also think he's been priced out of the Vegas team at this point. I mean, the dude's rich, but he. Look at the guys that are buying NBA teams at this point. These are the richest men in America and LeBron is, unfortunately for him, not quite on that list.

[Jay Skeets]

He would join.

[Tas Melis]

He can join a group for sure, but that's been known to happen. Katie going back to Seattle. That's cool.

[Jay Skeets]

That'd be pretty cool.

[Tas Melis]

And he doesn't seem like he's in any hurry to stop playing with the comments he made about wanting to join the Olympic team for the 2028 Olympics. That's like the same timeframe as Seattle getting a team back.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, I think it's possible.

[Trey Kirby]

Mm.

[Jay Skeets]

Let's take a break and when we come back, we're hit the beach. Answer a few of your questions right now. New FanDuel customers can get up to $300 back in bonus bets every day for 10 days if your bet loses. Here's how this works. Place a tournament bet using the token, and if it doesn't win, you'll get up to $300 back in bonus bets every single day for 10 straight days. Have 10 chances to play all tourney long, from game props and money lines to spreads, totals and futures and more. You can even mix things up with the same game parlays for a shot at a bigger payout, however you want to fill out your bracket. FanDuel makes it easy to stay in the action day after day, so visit the FanDuel Sportsbook app today. Fanduel Time to dance. Get your dance on. I was, I was gonna say I was dancing last night at Our lady piece, but. But you're not really dancing. I'm just sort of swaying, moving with the beat, doing a lot of this. Always amazed by how many people are not actually moving to music in a live setting. Am I wrong? I'm not kidding. I find it physically impossible to not at least bob my head, move my body a little bit to live music especially. Of course, really, any music. People just stand there like a statue, just enjoying it. I'm not saying they're not enjoying it.

[Tas Melis]

Just grinning ear to.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, just blows my mind. Anyway, great show at the Buckhead Theater last night. Our lady peace. JD say still got it. They still got 30 years later.

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

I'm so happy to hear that.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, you should have. You should have.

[Trey Kirby]

If there is anyone who doesn't sway, it might be JD.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, JD's a drummer man.

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

Yeah, I'm very uncomfortable in the audience. I like to be on stage, like playing, you know what I mean? Like, my brother's a pilot and when he sees a plane in the air, he's like, I should be there. I should be flying this plane. Every plane that he sees. So I feel like awkward in the audience. Like, this isn't for me, this is for all of you people.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, it's like how we feel about the watching sports. I mean, I feel like I should be on the court.

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

Exactly.

[Trey Kirby]

So I'm just gonna sit at home now. Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

All right, let's hit the beach. Let's do it. Oh, you won't believe this. Our Lady Peace played this song last night. Yeah? Yeah, it was crazy. And then we read a bunch of emails. Or they did. On stage Reigns, apparently. Big NBA guy. That's cool.

[Tas Melis]

Who's his favorite team?

[Jay Skeets]

I have no idea. No clue. I would think the Raptors being a Canadian, but I don't know that for sure. That's just us assuming. Look it up.

[Trey Kirby]

Maybe you grew up close to Minnesota. Minnesota's like, you know, it's like Canada North.

[Jay Skeets]

All right, got a couple questions. Thanks for sending them in. No Dunks, Inc. Mail.com. that's Inc. If you want to send in a question for the next beach, step in. All right, first one. Hey, fellas. Hey. Man, in the past, there have been some great NBA team nicknames. Like the Heatles light years ahead. Warriors, we believe. Warriors. Beautiful game.

[Trey Kirby]

Spurs.

[Jay Skeets]

Bad Boy Pistons, Jail Blazers. Showtime Lakers, Lob City, Clippers. I could go on and on. Are there any current day team Nicknames. If not, can you guys just come up with some? So that's Nolan. That's the music. Finally. I mean, the waves are in.

[Tas Melis]

The waves are in.

[Jay Skeets]

Holy. Okay. Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

There's a big wa. All right. Took a while to come together. That wave just splashed on in.

[Jay Skeets]

Before we get to making up ones, are there any actual ones that you. That you like current, current day team nicknames? I thought of one that sort of, like, gained some steam this year. The Nasty Dogs. Remember the Pistons were trying to say they were the Nasty Dogs now? I think Nasty Boys is better. It is off of. Of bad boys. Go nasty. You don't got to be dog. Yeah, it's gotta be boys somehow. Anyway, that was the only one, like, I could actually sort of think of.

[Trey Kirby]

Were they. Were they coming up with that? Because I literally. I came up with one essentially because of what Dennis Jenkins said, and he's. Yeah, he said, yeah, we're all Nasty Dogs. Nasty Boys. I'm cutting some promos for these Pistons. I think. I didn't think of the Nasty Boys. I just went. I guess I went, pun Detroit Pistones. Because they play it like they've got stones in them. Yeah, it's not so good. Yeah, it's not so good. We're working on it. We're working on it.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, but. Okay, so the answer is no. Let's just make another one of.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, the beam team is extinct. Unfortunately, though, the Kings are winning some games right now. So maybe they are the beam team again.

[Jay Skeets]

I. I wrote down. The beam teams are basically now the scream team. Because if you're a Kings fan, you're, like, screaming at this team, like, what the hell are you doing? You can't win when we want you to win. You can't lose when we want you to lose. So you're screaming at them.

[Tas Melis]

Sure.

[Jay Skeets]

It's not my best work. I'll be honest.

[Tas Melis]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

I got some bad ones, too.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, good.

[Tas Melis]

What do you got for the Pistones? The sandy swimsuits, because they rub people the wrong. What?

[Trey Kirby]

Sandy.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, it's funny.

[Trey Kirby]

I like it.

[Jay Skeets]

Come on.

[Tas Melis]

You hate it when you get sand in your liner.

[Trey Kirby]

The rashes, whatever.

[Tas Melis]

Yucky.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

How about for the Spurs?

[Jay Skeets]

The War of the World because he's an alien.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah. It's aliens versus everybody else on Earth. And the ships they have in the. At least the Tom Cruise edition are very wemby.

[Trey Kirby]

Like.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

Very top Heavy.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

Very tall.

[Jay Skeets]

Yep.

[Tas Melis]

So that was my aliens one. And then. I don't actually believe this, but the name Is too good. I gotta say it. The Grift and Grind. Thunder.

[Jay Skeets]

Grift and Grind.

[Tas Melis]

Grift and Grind. They got a great defense and they got a file baiter as their leader.

[Jay Skeets]

Jesus, man.

[Trey Kirby]

Grifting Grind off of the. Yeah, it's good.

[Tas Melis]

It's really good. It's really, really good, actually. It will catch on. That one could catch on for sure.

[Trey Kirby]

I. I don't have anything as good as Grift and Grind, but I put down the warriors should be called the Hangover, because the good days are gone, man. The peak era. And now we're here. We're just. We're hanging on. We're hanging on. See what we got left. I think you could call the Charlotte Hornets Futurama, you know, the animated show, because this is a team about the future. We're almost there. Like next couple of years. They're going to be good.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. I also wrote down the Nuggets, the Gold Rush. Hey.

[Tas Melis]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

The number one offensively.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

I was scrambling here. The Magic. I just wrote down the Gathering.

[Tas Melis]

Simple, easy one. For sure. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

If it was. If they get back to being like a top three defense, like elite defensive. We're the Gathering. Did you ever play that?

[Trey Kirby]

I didn't, I guess.

[Jay Skeets]

Card game. I never did either. JD Your kids ever get into the Gathering?

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

They kind of collected the cards, but we never really never played it.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

Yeah. The movie's coming out soon.

[Jay Skeets]

There's a movie on Magic, the Gathering.

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

Yeah. Directed by the Nirvana, the band guy.

[Tas Melis]

Wow.

[Jay Skeets]

Really?

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

Yeah, there's a clip of him. I think he's on the big picture talking about how he wanted to be a professional Magic, the Gathering player.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

And when he realized it wasn't going to happen for him, he was like, I guess I gotta, you know, start thinking seriously about directing movies.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, wow. All right.

[Boys and Girls Podcast Host]

Well.

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

And now he's. He's been tapped to. To direct the movie, so we'll see what happens.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Melis]

They're just now doing a movie. That's crazy, actually, that we had 30 years. The time is right.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Strike now.

[Tas Melis]

Ziggy's got a good one here in the stream Team for the Spurs, Men in Black. They wear black. They have an alien. It's pretty good.

[Jay Skeets]

Pretty good, man.

[Trey Kirby]

They're all business. Yeah. That's a great one.

[Tas Melis]

It's not bad.

[Trey Kirby]

I think the ones that their teams would go by, I think teams would go with Gold Rush.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

They might even have. I don't. For all I know, they probably sell shirts that say Gold Rush on Them or something?

[Trey Kirby]

I don't know. Probably. Yeah. I don't think there's a question about that. All right, next question here. Howdy, fellas. What GMs do you think will or should be shown the door this summer? As a Warriors fan, I'll be throwing a party the day Mike Dunleavy Jr. Is given a box to clean out his things. But realistically, I think we'll be stuck with him for a long time. Sad caca. Thanks for all y' all do best pod around. P.S. i have my own substack simply warriors, and I'd be remiss to not share with you legends. That's from Christian. All right, Warriors. All right, Christian, let's give. Let's give Christian an answer. What GMs you think we'll get axed?

[Jay Skeets]

The most obvious answer to me was Daryl Morey as the Philadelphia 76ers GM. You know, it's been been a while. Some of it definitely his fault in the construction of the team, obviously some of it out of his hands with unfortunate injuries to main guys and stuff like that. But I don't know if he's going to be long for the Sixers organization. So I had more as my easy answer. It seems like you had him as well.

[Tas Melis]

I had him on my list sixth season for Maury. And I mean, last summer we were like, hey, man, they great moves. Daryl Morey bringing in Paul George, signing Embiid to an extension, which immediately turned out to be both bad deals. But the thing with Maury is unfortunately he like, comes through on the incentives for the Sixers. They're like, you need to cut the tax. He cuts the tax.

[Jay Skeets]

I gotcha.

[Tas Melis]

It means they lost Jared McCain, but he was doing what he was asked. So it's like, what is. What do the Sixers want? Do they really want to win or do they want to be competitive and make money? It usually goes the second way, so we will see. But I doubt he was high on my list as well, as was John Horst for the Milwaukee Bucks. Built the championship team, but if Giannis decides to go, it could be a complete change of leadership from coaching to the front office as well. Especially with like, the Miles Turner thing hanging over their heads. Lack of success on any draft pick they've made basically since the honest pick. Building that title team was awesome, but we've seen teams move on from their GMs quickly thereafter, and this isn't even that quick at that point.

[Trey Kirby]

Yep, I think the Pelicans have to move on from Joey Dumars And Troy Weaver. I know it's only been one year, but you look at the top three salaries on the New Orleans Pelicans teams in Zion, Jordan Poole and Dejounte Murray. Three guys that aren't leading good teams. Whether you're not, you get rid of one or the second or the other. And we know Joe Dumars and Troy Weaver aren't getting rid of. Definitely not getting rid of all three. Are they getting rid of any of them? That's a fair question. And they have to move on. They literally have to move on to a different direction. And so I think that should be done immediately. Even though, again, I understand why Gail Benson decided to go. Let's go with the old guy, you know, in Dumars who's been around forever. I understand that idea, but it's not going to work with these guys who were signed for multiple years. So you're going to have multiple years of a. In a. In a what? In a great situation, you'd be an average team. In a perfect situation, I imagine you'd be a perfect. An average team.

[Jay Skeets]

I look forward to one of those guys you mentioned leading an expansion team in three years. Either Zion, Jordan Poole or Dejounte Murray. John Tay Murray in Seattle. Boom, done. It's from there.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, see, that's. That's the beauty of the current NBA salary cap, is that you're gonna get guys on the bottom of rosters that need to go because they need to cut salary. Like Nikhil Alexander Walker was cut from Minnesota because Tim Connolly couldn't pay him. We see him in Atlanta, so we're gonna see some teams. And I don't think anyone's going to say, hey, Dejante Murray, lead our team if they're. If they're thinking things through. Well, multiple teams got rid of them.

[Jay Skeets]

Speaking of Nikhil Alexander Walker, great timing on this email that came in before last night's game. Gents, whenever I see Nikhil Alexander Walker ball out for the Atlanta Hawks, I get absolutely incensed about an obscure trade on February 9, 2022, a date that lives in infamy, perhaps to only me, my port. Portland Trail Blazers traded NAW for an injured Joe Ingles in a second round pick. Joe Ingalls was out for the season and on an expiring contract and never played one minute for the Blazers. Why, even then there was talk of Naw's potential. I promise I think about this trade more than the vast majority on earth. Do you have an obscure trade that you think about more than the normal ball Knower. This is from Jamal. And again impeccably timed here with not going for a career high 41. He must have been livid. Poor Jamal. Nuts. At least his Blazers beat the Nets. But yeah, do you have an obscure trade that you think about way more than the average person? TK I've got a current one and

[Tas Melis]

it even involves the Blazers. In summer of 2021, the Bulls traded Lowry Markkanen to the CAVS in a three team trade. They got back Derrick Jones Jr. And a conditional first round pick from Portland. Protected top 14 from 2022 to 2028. And it still has not conveyed and it's probably not going to convey again this season. But I'm always rooting for the Blazers to actually take a step forward when we're talking about GMs who might get canned. I think Joe Cronin's gonna be on the hot seat. Like you're into this rebuild right now and Denny is the best player you've gotten via trade. Scoot doesn't look great. I think that's another guy who needs to see some results next year. But I'd also like to see them have some results so that the Bulls can get that first round pick finally. Derek Jones Jr. Hasn't even been on Chicago for two seasons.

[Trey Kirby]

Wow.

[Tas Melis]

It's going to be another year at least before it conveys. Okay, how have they been in the bottom 14 this long? I thought the Blazers were supposed to be good.

[Jay Skeets]

They've been struggling.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, that's the bulls.

[Tas Melis]

They've been 500 just thereabouts.

[Trey Kirby]

It's a good one to look back at draft picks like that because those things matter when it comes to trades. But when it comes to sports talk shows, nobody's waiting for five years to see if it comes true. And that's. It kind of relates to mine because mine's a Raptors trade. When they traded Gravis Vasquez to the Milwaukee Bucks for Norman Powell in the 2015 off season, that in and of itself good trade, incredible season. Norman was second round pick that off season and he comes on over and helps the Raps win a playoff series immediately with that dunk on the Indiana Pacers, their first playoff series win in forever. So that's great. But what was also in that Trade was a first round pick in 2017 that the Raptors used to draft, OG Anunoby. So yeah, so that came through for them and that they got to use that pick and they just made a great, great draft pick and OG turned into a monster. But Grievous Vasquez, who was at the end of his career essentially to Milwaukee and base, said, that's Norman Guy, not so good. Graves is going to. He's going to do it with Giannis and OG for Gary's Vasquez. That's. That's a wild one.

[Jay Skeets]

Well, I'll take the opposite side of things for the Raptors then, because a trade that I think about way too much and I talk about it all the time here on this show. In January of 2024, the Raptors traded Pascal Siako to the Pacers for Bruce Brown, Kira Lewis Jr. Jordan Noira and a few picks, only one of which the Raptors ended up using on Jacoby Walter. And I was pissed at the time. I'm still pissed that they didn't get like one of like the youngish players on the Pacers that I feel like you maybe could have. I know Siakam's contract played a big part in this and obviously the deal he got from Indiana. But, you know, no Matheran, no Nemhard. Got two Canadians too, at that. Ben Shepard, no Isaiah Jackson. I was even saying, like, why not Isaiah Jackson? Like, that's absolutely absolute garbage trade in retrospect. It was at the time, too, but good on the Pacers and he's obviously helped him go quite far in the postseason. I think about it all the time. How can you not get one more player?

[Tas Melis]

Waited too long.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, that's what happened.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Yeah, they. They did turn. I was hoping that one of those picks that they got that they turned into with the Utah Jazz would have been all right. It was Isaiah Collier that they moved on from to get. Now I can't even think of his name just because I'm right here. 3 and D guy that they ended up moving on from recently this year. Yeah, it didn't. Didn't pan out. Yeah, I was hoping. I was hoping one of those late picks. Just like I said, this OG and an OBI picking. It was 23rd. Maybe one day you do get a good guy with those picks. Some days, no. In this case, no.

[Jay Skeets]

No

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[Jay Skeets]

Final one.

[Trey Kirby]

Bing bong. This crossover of no Dunks and blackpink is something I never thought would happen. What's a crossover between two things in your world that shocked you? And this is.

[Jay Skeets]

Come on.

[Trey Kirby]

This isn't me making this noise. This is from Captain Bones.

[Jay Skeets]

There you go.

[Trey Kirby]

Who's a. An amateur wrestler. I guess you call him an amateur wrestler. 100 this character, he's a pirate, right? Is he?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. JD knows. Yeah.

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

100 He's a pirate.

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[Jay Skeets]

And correct me if I'm wrong, Captain Bones sent in footage of, like, a new finishing move or at least a new movie he's working on where he basically gives a guy a wedgie. That's right. That happened. I. I watched that clip. Confirmed. Same.

[Trey Kirby]

I didn't know the pirate was giving the wedgie. Yeah, but that was a good wedgie. Captain Bones finish the match.

[Tas Melis]

Captain Bones crossover.

[Jay Skeets]

Crossover between two things in your world that shocked you. You get us started here.

[Tas Melis]

We're getting one tomorrow. Mr. Beast is going to be on Survivor soon.

[Jay Skeets]

Soon. Zach Brown first.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

We got Zach Brown tomorrow. My bad. I guess he's technically in my world since I saw his Bones costume at the fortress last night. Zach Brown has a social club here in Atlanta.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

Zach Brown, social club. But yeah, Mr. Beast is gonna be on Survivor. That's weird.

[Trey Kirby]

What's he doing?

[Tas Melis]

JD's theory is that he's going to bring out a machete and cut a whole bunch of people.

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

That's right.

[Jay Skeets]

Because they get by offering them money.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

They've got more contestants than they usually do. The numbers don't really work out episode wise for eliminating one person per episode. And you know, Beast Games, that guy likes to just cut people nice and easy. I've never actually watched an episode of Beast Games. My kids do, and I can tell that's what happens.

[Jay Skeets]

I have watched a couple episodes of it and yeah, that's exactly what happens. But I love the concept or the theory that Mr. Beast comes out and says, if you leave this game right now, I'll give you $100,000 or whatever. Right. Whatever the money is. And who. Who leaves?

[Tas Melis]

Who leaves?

[Jay Skeets]

Blackballed from Jeff Pros forever.

[Tas Melis]

You don't think he would like it?

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, taking.

[Tas Melis]

Taking the Beast bait.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, he would. But also, props is all about journey and story. Find yourself out here. Don't worry about the million dollars. Learn who you are. Learn who you are out here on the island.

[Trey Kirby]

So interesting.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

I learned I like money. I learned money is more important to me than maybe winning.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Can I. Can I piggyback off that? Because I have a hop on a Survivor sort of crossover with our world too. I can't remember who for the life of me who sent this in. So apologies to whoever sent this by way of, I believe DMS. I looked yesterday for like 30 minutes trying to find where the hell this was. I hate when that I couldn't find it. I got so frustrated. I was like, all right, sorry, man. I want to give you the credit, but I can't find you. But this is a semi interesting. No dunks, no buffs crossover. So NBA world, Survivor World. Four days after the Survivor 48 finale aired, Kyle Frazier, who won Survivor 48, he returned to Fiji to film Survivor 50 in the hands of the fans. This is the all returnee season, which we're now covering on no bus. That's what Trey is talking about. New episode on Wednesday night. But while Kyle's first season was finishing up airing on CBS and before he headed back for season 50, Kyle watched because he's an NBA fan. Damian Lillard and Jayson Tatum both tear their Achilles early in the playoffs. Okay, so that was late April for Dame, early May for Tatum. Kyle then heads to Fiji for Survivor 50 in. Let's call it late May, early June because filming started June 6, the first immunity challenge of the season. Kyle lands awkwardly trying to go up a ramp. He's unable to put any weight on his leg. He toughs it out, but the following day, he's removed from the game from Survivor by the medics over fear that he ruptured his Achilles tendon, which were proven to be true. He did. So they send Kyle home. You have to assume soon after that it's not like he's sticking around. He's not. He's not. He's not on the jury or anything like that. So he probably goes home in mid June. Okay, what happens next on John. On June 22, 2025, Tyrese Halliburton tears his Achilles in Game 7 of the NBA Finals.

[Tas Melis]

Wow.

[Jay Skeets]

Holy crap. What a run for Kyle Frazier. Here, watch his Dame tears Achilles, watches Tatum, tears Achilles, goes to Survivor, tears his Achilles, returns to basically see the NBA Finals Game 7. Tyrese Halliburton tear his.

[Tas Melis]

That's crazy.

[Jay Skeets]

I wish I could find the name of the person that sent that in. It blew my mind. We got to talk to Kyle about it. And he is an NBA fan. He's a Knicks fan. I know that. Wow.

[Tas Melis]

So interesting. He must have felt very conflicted about the Halliburton one.

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Or even the Tatum one, I guess.

[Tas Melis]

Well, yeah, but he has his own torn Achilles by that point.

[Jay Skeets]

By then.

[Tas Melis]

And he's seen the Knicks have their hearts broken by Tyrese Halbert.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, right, right.

[Tas Melis]

That's why I think he'd be conflicted. But in that moment, he tears his Achilles. Do you think Lillard or Tatum is flashing to his mind first? Probably Tatum.

[Jay Skeets]

Tatum, more recent.

[Trey Kirby]

Agreed.

[Tas Melis]

Against the. Against his team.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

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[Jay Skeets]

Game five.

[Trey Kirby]

Now I'm searching for it. I'm trying to find that crazy man, this connection. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, good.

[Tas Melis]

I saw Wendell went to a Thunder game this week. I saw that, too, with Christina.

[Trey Kirby]

Saw that.

[Tas Melis]

Some more crossovers for you.

[Jay Skeets]

We, we. We get excited when there's a Survivor contestant that's an NBA fan.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Or even mentions the NBA when they're out there. You know, we got Kobe's mentioned before and stuff like that.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

All right. Any other answers? Do you have an answer for this one?

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, yeah. Me. I saw a Nike T shirt that had an espresso mocha pot on the back. And those are two great things. Nike coffee.

[Jay Skeets]

You love them.

[Trey Kirby]

I love a mocha pot. It's cool to see a moka pot. And it's one of those machina things people call. I've used it. I mean, they make a great, great cup of coffee.

[Tas Melis]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

I actually don't know what. Oh, that's what that is. Okay.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, that's what it was called.

[Trey Kirby]

Called the color of the T shirt. Spectacular.

[Tas Melis]

Was it like coffee color? I mean, not brown, but like.

[Trey Kirby]

No, it's like. No, they just picked this. It's a beautiful color. It's like a pink, burgundy, pinky brown. It's hard. I. I can't even know. I don't even know what the color was. Was it magenta? Maybe? I don't know. But it was spectacular.

[Tas Melis]

A reddish color.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

Of some sort.

[Trey Kirby]

So soft. Anyways, I'm sorry I didn't have a Survivor connection.

[Jay Skeets]

That's okay.

[Trey Kirby]

I learned.

[Jay Skeets]

I didn't know that's what a mocha pot was.

[JD (Producer/Drummer)]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

But I know. Ex. Exactly. Now I know what you're talking about. The three chambered stove top coffee maker. Yeah. Invented in 1933. The mocha pot.

[Trey Kirby]

Italians know what's up. Three chambered. Yeah. Bottom, middle, top. That's great.

[Jay Skeets]

That's great, buddy.

[Tas Melis]

I mean, it's got to be water, beans, coffee completed, you would think, right?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Tas Melis]

I thought your answer was going to be when Ed Sheeran was on Game of Thrones. That was pretty cool. Another one I had was.

[Trey Kirby]

I was definitely thinking of Ed Sheeran. As you guys were talking about Mr. Beast, like, it's just like what's happening here?

[Tas Melis]

What is happening, Mr.

[Trey Kirby]

Beast? I'm glad it's not a real machete. Anyways, go on.

[Tas Melis]

No, I was just gonna say that I popped during the Oscars In Memoriam when they showed the casting director from Fast and Furious. And then I realized that's not actually like a weird crossover because Fast and Furious is a movie likely place for them to be shown during the movie awards. But. But the Oscars.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, that's got to be the first

[Jay Skeets]

time anyone where they zoom out of all the cars. It's like Ben and Jason Momoa, I think. Right?

[Tas Melis]

Or.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

Was in it for sure. Yeah. I was like, finally some respect.

[Jay Skeets]

I got excited. I got excited.

[Trey Kirby]

I really wanted to integrate Fast and Furious into the way we would market an NBA team. Like I wanted to call someone like the. The fastest team.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

I thought, you know, maybe, I mean,

[Jay Skeets]

if the Pistons played the fastest would be good. They're pretty furious.

[Tas Melis]

Who's the fastest team right now?

[Jay Skeets]

Fast and Furious would be a good name.

[Tas Melis]

Miami Heat.

[Trey Kirby]

The Heat.

[Jay Skeets]

Heat.

[Tas Melis]

Too Fast Too Furious is a set in Miami. Yeah, a lot of it.

[Trey Kirby]

Cool.

[Jay Skeets]

Very cool. All right, great. Great emails. Got us off on some tangents. Well, bye. Well, by of the night sponsored by AK Vintage collecting on ebay. Link in the show notes, Ari Klein. We had to show you some love once again here with Woah Boy because Ari, if you watched our substack video where we opened up mail, sent us a bunch of clothing items from his store on ebay. His vintage collecting got some cool items. Cool Son's puffer jacket that I was like, oh, that's pretty badass looking. There's like some NBA stuff up there,

[Trey Kirby]

which is pretty fun. Yeah. Yeah. If it wasn't March 17, I'd be wearing the hat that he sent you.

[Jay Skeets]

That he sent you. Yeah. You had the Canadian hat.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, we. We gave you the wrong day here, Ari Klein. That's my bad. But yes. Canadian Airline hat.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes. Now defunct Canadian Airline corduroy. Nikhil Alexander Walker. Canadian boy, man, you should have had the hat on. Yeah. He poured in a career high 41 points as the Hawks extended their winning streak to 10 games. We talked about it to start the show. Shimmy, shimmy. Nah. Shot 12 of 21 from the field, nine the of 14 from deep eight and nine at the line. Seven rebounds, five assists, two steals in

[Trey Kirby]

37 minutes and one Kobe impression which was the. Chill out. We're gonna win this.

[Jay Skeets]

I got This I got this great game pick them tonight. I got a much needed win to try and chase you guys down in March. I'm four and seven. You guys are seven to four. I had the Hawks in the Magic City Monday game. Can't believe you picked against them guys. The energy that was going to be in that building.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Team and won nine in a row, man.

[Trey Kirby]

Against the team that won seven in a row. That didn't have it. Not at all. It was Orlando Magic tonight. Should we get a better one in the Southeast Division battle? Miami visiting the Charlotte Hornets. The hornets favored by four and a half. Miami's 30 against Charlotte this season. Season. So I expect Charlotte to fight back. I'm not super excited about this one. It's the first game home from a long road trip and not super long, but it's still a road trip. They played 11 days ago and so maybe, maybe Charlotte avenges that game. Bay Metabio questionable with the calf injury. But you guys are both taking those. Miami Heat to lose by four or less or outright win obviously.

[Jay Skeets]

I thought the line was a little big.

[Trey Kirby]

It is.

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[Trey Kirby]

It is a little big, isn't it?

[Jay Skeets]

I thought maybe even a Hornets win tonight, but a close one. So that's why I went.

[Tas Melis]

Miami, little big line. Little big line for the fast and Furious heat.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes. Come on through. Maybe Vin Diesel will get the start for Bam Adebayo. Maybe. Never know. Maybe Vin ten way deal.

[Tas Melis]

I would love to see him shoot a basketball.

[Jay Skeets]

It's got to be.

[Tas Melis]

It's got to be tough, ugly as to get his. Those shoulders.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melis]

I don't think he has touch.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't think he has any touch. He does not look like a guy that's really ever played basketball. And imagine him dribbling.

[Tas Melis]

No, you can't imagine him dribbling. He goes to a lot of games though. Vin is a frequent attender.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Okay.

[Tas Melis]

I'll never forget he was at the gold medal game. It must have been the London Olympics. Is that 2012?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tas Melis]

They were filming there. They cut to Vin.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tas Melis]

He sticks with the thumbs up. I gotta find a video of him playing basketball.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Melis]

Not right now, but I'll let you know if I find tomorrow.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, Please bring that tomorrow to the table.

[Trey Kirby]

Which character from Fast and Furious would make the best basketball player? Who?

[Tas Melis]

Interesting. Interesting. Momoa's big. He's.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, he is big. He could have shoulder problems too. Just lacking flexibility. But I trust he's athletic. I mean he does athletic things. Mm.

[Tas Melis]

The Rock was a D1 athlete, CFL player. I can't imagine him play playing basketball very much either. Paul Walker, rip maybe. He's got a nice outside shot.

[Jay Skeets]

I forget the his name in the movie. What about Bow Wow?

[Tas Melis]

Good one. Yeah, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

What's his name of the movie?

[Trey Kirby]

Drift.

[Jay Skeets]

I know. I literally. I'll look it up. I'll look it up. That's gonna father me.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, Bow Wow.

[Jay Skeets]

Somebody in the comments.

[Trey Kirby]

Tokyo Drift.

[Jay Skeets]

Twinkie. Twinkie. I knew it was something stupid like

[Tas Melis]

that if he had the shoes.

[Jay Skeets]

Right, right.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, that's Tokyo Drift is way later than him singing. I like the way they dribble up and down the court. That's way later. Right, but I mean he could have been filming at the same time. No, it's way later. Cool story, bro.

[Jay Skeets]

I would like to see a game between Lucas Black and Vin Diesel.

[Tas Melis]

Lucas Black, excuse me, Sean Star, the third one.

[Jay Skeets]

You imagine that game.

[Tas Melis]

Well, Lucas's brother is pretty good.

[Jay Skeets]

Anthony.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Or Leaky.

[Tas Melis]

Yeah, they're three brothers, Anthony and Leaky. Say that Lucas taught him everything they know. He's just ahead of his time.

[Jay Skeets]

All right, let's call it there. Jesus. We're gonna be back tomorrow though and we're having some fun because we're are filling out our March Madness bracket on tomorrow's no Dunks. Three guys I know very little about college basketball fill out the perfect bracket. So join us live as we talk our our way through that. We'll talk about some of the games tonight as well. Off the top, I'm sure we have a link in the show notes if you want to join the no Dunks. What do we call it? Classic tournament. Sure, I think is what we call it. We're using the CBS one, the official one. So hit that link. Join it. I don't know. We'll put something up for the winner of this whole thing. Some T shirts at the very least.

[Tas Melis]

So go get entries already.

[Jay Skeets]

There's like 600 entries. We don't even.

[Tas Melis]

I say we got a J. Skeets in here.

[Jay Skeets]

Hell yeah, you do. I filled it out yesterday.

[Tas Melis]

Jackie boy. Just another guy that's in there.

[Jay Skeets]

So we will. We'll fill out no Dunks bracket for that big pool on tomorrow's show. So hopefully you'll join us then at 10am Eastern. Till then, Clipper Bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys.

[Tas Melis]

Awesome.

[Trey Kirby]

Thanks for joining us. And remember, according to the Internet, Jason Momoa has never played basketball. I see him in an interview with Jimmy Kimmel in 2023. This video is from 2023. I don't think he ever played.

[Jay Skeets]

So more, you know, he's more like into like throwing axes and archery and stuff like that. We have that on good record from friends that have actually done that with him here in Atlanta. So it sort of doesn't shock me. That's right. Maybe not likes your normal sports. Let's call them. Yeah, okay. But he's a good swimmer.

[Trey Kirby]

He's Aquaman.

[Jay Skeets]

Praise the name, people.

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[Tas Melis]

Then she says, have you seen a

[Jay Skeets]

photo of my son? And I'm like, who is this person?

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[Jay Skeets]

This is an iHeart podcast.

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