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Jay Skeets
Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the no Dunks podcast, presented by FanDuel. It's Friday, February 20th, 2026. I'm Jay Skeets chilling from room 1200 in the downright Hotel here in Austin, Texas. And alongside me on a bench, It's Tasmelis, room 1200.
Matt Rogers
That's where everything is happening.
Jay Skeets
That's right next to him. It's my top shot, hot boy Trey Kirby. And making the magic happen. They're just right there sitting on a bed together, looking all cute. Super producers JD And Ash just yell, there they are. Here we are. We gotta fire out this podcast before we got to catch a flight back to Atlanta. So make your points quick.
Tasmelis
I still gotta wash my hog before.
Jay Skeets
No, you don't know.
Tasmelis
Yeah, I'm gonna, baby, I'm gonna.
Jay Skeets
How many times have you showered in the last two and a half days?
Tasmelis
Only twice. Only twice. Thank you very much. One Wednesday, one Thursday, and this will be my Friday shower.
Matt Rogers
How can you not shower in these great showers that have a literal hole in the shower door so you can just reach in and turn on the faucet? I guess you guys don't have that.
Jay Skeets
J.D.
Matt Rogers
and I do if you need to take a quick shot.
Jay Skeets
Oh, so you're saying, you're saying it allows you to like turn your shower on.
Matt Rogers
Okay, Just turn it on, let it run for like the entire time you're here.
Jay Skeets
Let me ask you though, have you put your dick through it?
Matt Rogers
No, it's not at an optimal spot for that behind a little stand sort of thing.
Jay Skeets
Okay.
Matt Rogers
Now that I think otherwise, I would otherwise.
Jay Skeets
Okay, so we are here in Austin. We came down shout out to Ledger for sending us down here. We did the live podcast yesterday morning at the Cast. Spurs had a blast. We drafted teams that we thought were interesting in the second half. Then we were joined by Jacob Tobey, who's the play by play announcer for the Spurs. That was awesome. Make sure you check out that podcast. People really enjoyed that. Got some short clips up as well. And shouts again to Jake for joining us. But we went to the game last night, so we're going to talk about the spurs beating the Suns here in Austin. We had other basketball back in our lives. We'll touch on a few games, we'll talk a little tanking because Silver says they might be addressing it.
Tasmelis
We must address it.
Jay Skeets
Yes, but we had a wedgie, so great start to the second half of the season. It was in Madison Square Garden. Cade Cunningham is going to get credit for the wedgie It's a block wedgie. He definitely fouled OG Anunoby, but they did not call it at the rim there. So it goes in the record books. Tasks as wedgie number 48 for Cade Cunningham.
Matt Rogers
You gotta give him credit.
Jay Skeets
Yes.
Matt Rogers
He was riding OG's back basically all the way to the rim. He kind of had his hand on his back and with a awesome block that made Iron Eagle just erupt. A block YG immediately.
Jay Skeets
We called it a dunk wedgie is what he actually called it.
Matt Rogers
Oh, he did.
Jay Skeets
He really wanted to give credit to og. It goes to Cade. But, yeah, he popped for the dunk part of it.
Tasmelis
It was. It was good.
Matt Rogers
Why would you pop. Why would you call it a dunk?
Tasmelis
Dunk attempt.
Matt Rogers
It was a dunk attempt to wedge. It was a block wedgie. Kia was kind of just on his back. So is that where you're saying the. The foul was, where he's kind of having his hand?
Jay Skeets
He follows him at the. At the rim, too. Now, you could say the ball is a part of the. The hand is part of the ball type of stuff, but he found that anyway. It doesn't matter.
Matt Rogers
You just had three blocks in the all star game last week. He's keeping it going. We'll get into that game. That was just fun game.
Tasmelis
Yeah, it even the. The wedgie even made like, the condensed highlights when they were doing it.
Jay Skeets
Oh, wow.
Tasmelis
That was a show of respect to the boys.
Jay Skeets
We will get to Cade's huge night in massive Square Garden. But let's start with the game we were at again. Spurs beating the Suns 12194 here in Austin at the Moody center, which is the university, you know, arena 16,000. I checked the attendance last night, so it's quite a small atmosphere, which made for a really fun experience.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, we were hooking them horns.
Jay Skeets
Everybody was.
Tasmelis
How'd you feel about the acoustics in there?
Matt Rogers
Yeah, we had different reports about the acoustics before we went.
Tasmelis
A lot of acoustics talk.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jay Skeets
Somebody said it was the best. One of the best in the world for acoustics outside of Madison Square Garden. That's what somebody told me.
Matt Rogers
I thought they were good.
Tasmelis
It was loud. Like, it was the entire time. Even though this game turned into a monster blowout.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tasmelis
But, like, just hearing the chatter, it was lively in there, I thought.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. And the chance coming from the jackals. Right? That's what they're called. Yeah, we saw them outside. They make it feel like a European game. Even Wemby was hooking him Horns and he literally popped that up after a bucket. Everybody was into it. Yeah.
Tasmelis
Did it.
Matt Rogers
Oh, he did.
Jay Skeets
Lamarcus Aldrich City courtside. Of course. Did it. He went to school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the spurs win their seventh straight tk and you said it there, I mean, it's turned into a blowout. Suns were short Dylan Brooks and then Devin Booker was playing, but then he wasn't and he didn't play a lot. And there's not a lot of offense being generated on the sun side. And the spurs are awesome too. So.
Tasmelis
Yeah. Sore hip for Devin Booker. He tried to come back. We were just wondering if he was in the bathroom for a while. But only played nine minutes. And there was a four minute stretch at the start of the second quarter where the Suns didn't score. And that was the entire game. It was over from that moment. It was weird watching Victor because I thought he didn't play very well. I thought the Suns did a great job defending him. They had a small guy on him for the most part. Mark was hanging nearby. Only 17 points for Victor. The ball was deflected a ton of times. He only got credited with one turnover, but like the Suns were digging down, knocking him over. He was on the ground quite a bit and the guy still completely dominated the game. Only went 7 of 15 from the field, but five blocks. It was a complete no fly zone in the paint. The Suns had no way to attack him, especially missing most of their guards out there. So I thought it was just an average Victor game and he was easily the best player on the court. It was cool.
Matt Rogers
It's true. Yeah. From our seats, it felt like you're at sort of like a regular TV angle at where we were watching Victor and it was cool to watch him pregame. I know I said to Ash, he had his shooting shirt on. National anthem, he takes it off, there's no jersey on. He just had his undershirt on and then he puts his jersey on. So I don't know. Just. This is an interesting thing as he gets prepared mentally. And then we see a fake three point shot at his first attempt. That's when Mark bit Mark Williams went out to it like, you're not blocking that, my man.
Jay Skeets
Yeah, good point.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jay Skeets
Why would you ever almost challenge?
Matt Rogers
I mean, he did fight him all night.
Tasmelis
He was fighting, man.
Matt Rogers
He was fighting.
Tasmelis
Don't put this on Mark.
Matt Rogers
No, it's not, it's not on. Mark, buddy. Bit and Wemby like, right. You know, a great sight line for us to just watch him glide in and score. He had that spin across the lane for the bank shot, which was really sweet. And then the gliding dunk. It's almost like he's hovering over the floor. Cause he's like, I don't know, half a foot off it.
Tasmelis
It's not like he's.
Matt Rogers
He's not like 8ft in the air, but he literally, you know, he glides for multiple feet. So it was cool seeing him. Yeah, he didn't have a great game, but the blocks were there, like the two on one possession. And we thought, okay, this is turning into an offensive score. The other way as they go on a fast break. And he missed. But, yeah, he was good enough. It was cool to see Stefan Castle, I thought, in person, because he's just so in control. He knows how to get that ball up high and it's not quite a carry. He's just. He's in control everywhere on the floor. And he was their leading scorer, right? Because 20 points. They hit 8 of 11. Comfortable as they space the floor so nicely. Him from the corner, him from inside, Hanging inside. Yeah, he's just so in control of his body.
Jay Skeets
Everybody played well for the spurs for the most part. Like, even brought up Cornette, who came in and had some big minutes.
Matt Rogers
Guards were great.
Jay Skeets
Oh, yeah. Well, he threw down. He was like. He had like the sixth best play last night on the top 10 list on NBA with the putback dunk, which was powerful. And, you know, he went nuts and the crowd went nuts. But, yeah, it was a great atmosphere for sure. And they're going to play again here on Saturday. They play the Kings in Austin. And yeah, there was. There was a buzz for sure. Like, felt like every seat was somebody sitting in it. You know, it wasn't many empty seats. And again, it's not a huge building. So, you know, I was going to say they'll maybe have a more competitive game on Saturday, but they're playing the Kings, so it could be just as. Just as bad, but good for spurs fans as they dominate.
Matt Rogers
But, yeah, the hottest team in the NBA winning seven straight.
Tasmelis
Very true.
Matt Rogers
No Dylan Brooks, obviously, in this game. And then Booker barely played, so Jalen Green was trying to do his thing. He scored 11 of the team's first 20. But as you said, the beginning of the second quarter, when it's Colin Gillespie time, they're running out of the timeout plays for Colin Gillespie and only Colin Gillespie. They needed some guys like Jordan Goodwin couldn't do his thing. Yeah, they were just. Their bench was lacking.
Tasmelis
Tough game for Livers you know, Livers couldn't bring them back.
Matt Rogers
No. It was too bad they didn't have enough offense. And they're fighting like Royce o'.
Tasmelis
Neill.
Matt Rogers
As you said, they were using smaller guys on Wemby, so they're trying, but they just needed Booker.
Tasmelis
And we all thought, yeah, that would have been. That would have been helpful.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, helpful for the old.
Jay Skeets
Well, it was pretty funny, even for us sickos at times. Like, who the hell is that? Oh, yeah, that's Fleming. Who the hell is that? Oh, yeah, your coffee's on this team. Like, we were getting some deep rotation players on the Suns, and even we got to see Mellow Watch.
Tasmelis
That's a big guy.
Jay Skeets
That guy is huge.
Tasmelis
It's a tall man.
Jay Skeets
Tall, thick man. He was, like, towering over Biyombo man. Yeah. Because he got some opportunity as this turned into a blowout, but, yeah. 121, 94 for the. For the Spurs. Any other observations from either the game or our time here in Austin before we get to some of the other games?
Tasmelis
I believe there were 86 jackals in attendance.
Jay Skeets
That's a pretty good number for traveling down from San Antonio.
Tasmelis
Yeah. And a lot of them. We were filming stuff pre game. A lot of them showed up together doing their chance. They got a lot of characters out there. Spurs, Nacho. There was a guy wearing, like, a. I'm sure it was a Jackal mask. But I interviewed him, and he goes to me, can I answer in character? Yes, of course you can, Jerry. Please do, Jerry. So every third question, he just goes,
Matt Rogers
oh, yeah, I like that guy. The Wolf was very funny. We interviewed an alien.
Tasmelis
A man in full alien costume.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah. There was a random fan that said. Started talking about Jared Allen all of a sudden. And that Jared Allen, because he went to UT here. He saw him at an HB last off season because he spends his time here in the off season. I said, oh, what was he doing at heb? Said he was plowing through the produce.
Jay Skeets
You brought up the guy basically dressed as. I guess he goes by Spurs Nacho. Yeah, but looks like Jack Black.
Tasmelis
I mean, he's dressed like Nacho Libre. He looks identical to him.
Jay Skeets
Did you see what I shared last night when we got home?
Tasmelis
He got his cap.
Jay Skeets
Yeah.
Tasmelis
So he wrote Cape Zone.
Jay Skeets
He tweeted, this is Spurs Nacho, part of the Jackals. Drove up to the Moody center in Austin, had my costume and cape on with my Jackal bling. Some Moody employee ran up to me right as I was about to go through security and said, that my costume wasn't permitted. He took a picture of me and his superior said, no, come on. I mean, he just had, like, a cape on.
Tasmelis
He was. Well, I mean, he was just dressed like Nacho Library.
Matt Rogers
Weird.
Tasmelis
Yeah, weird. I think they let the guy in that was wearing the glitter ball, bike helmet, motorcycle helmet. That guy seemed to get in. I definitely saw Jerry the Wolf walking around in the concourse as well.
Jay Skeets
So I don't.
Tasmelis
I don't know why the cape is the thing. You know, they've fallen out of fashion in the past couple of centuries, but I still think you should be allowed to dress like Nacho Libre for a game.
Jay Skeets
I agree. I don't know what's going on. Come on. Being a little too much of a stickler there with the rules. Anything else from Austin? We did check out. What do they call it? The Dirty Six.
Tasmelis
Yeah.
Jay Skeets
Which is like their weird version of Nashville.
Tasmelis
Their version of Nashville. Their version of Bourbon Street. One travel tip, I would say, if you want to experience dirty 6th, 7 o' clock on a Wednesday night is not the ideal time for it. The bands aren't really tuned up at that point.
Jay Skeets
No, it was quiet.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jay Skeets
There's a lot of bars, though.
Tasmelis
There's a lot of them.
Jay Skeets
And they will try and get you to come into their establishment quite aggressively. But, yeah, it was quiet when we were over there, but we got to see it, so that was fun. Anything else? Let's talk. Oh, go ahead.
Tasmelis
Nope, nope. We had some good tacos. I just wanted that to be on the record.
Jay Skeets
We did the bar, we did the barbecue, we did the tacos. Yeah, we did the things you're supposed to do, I think. And it's a great city to walk around. And the weather's.
Tasmelis
Yep, nice.
Jay Skeets
I mean, it started to get hot, but I like that we can get around easy. And I do. We never took one, but it's a real pro. Like Rickshaw City.
Tasmelis
Very pro.
Jay Skeets
Like, all blinged out rickshaws. Like, after the game last.
Tasmelis
Last night. Yeah. Leaving the game, there was a. A crew of rickshaws and bird scooters just flying down the street. Felt like that scene to me in one battle after another where, like, the revolutionary skaters are following along with a Benicio and Leo. Like, just like sketching on the back. Yeah, that's what that moment felt like.
Matt Rogers
I agree.
Jay Skeets
I agree.
Tasmelis
Very cinema.
Jay Skeets
I regretted not jumping in one on the rickshaw. Yeah.
Tasmelis
I mean, they've got all forms of transportation here, from driverless vehicles to driver fied rickshaws. Any way you want to get around, driver.
Jay Skeets
Seen a lot. A lot of waymos down here. A lot of them.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. We did have those tacos. And I wonder if the speculation about Devin Booker's stomach was because any of us felt a little bubbly. Our tummies felt a little bubbly.
Jay Skeets
I was okay. You were rough.
Matt Rogers
That was rough. I mean, I use the facilities many times. I think that's why I showered many times while we were here. That was good. I feel great. So many showers. And a handheld shower.
Tasmelis
You got the premium shower.
Jay Skeets
Yeah. You have a much better hotel room
Tasmelis
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Matt Rogers
Yes. Yeah.
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Jay Skeets
All right, let's talk about Cade Cunningham, Wade Winningham. This guy's throwing up dubs left and right, 42 points leads the Pistons to the 126, 111 victory over the Knicks. Detroit was without Jalen Duran without Beef Stew. Those guys are obviously suspended, but they go in and they punk them. They've beat them three times now this season.
Tasmelis
Sweet job.
Jay Skeets
They beat him by 31. They beat him by 38 and then 15 points in last night's victory. Pistons are the real deal here, TK.
Tasmelis
Yeah, they were missing their two biggest baddest dudes and Detroit to me still seemed like the bigger badder team. Paul Reed this guy is the perfect emergency starter. He just brings a lot of energy. He plays his role, just rolls to the basket, gets his dunks, gets his offensive rebounds. He was pretty solid. I thought Tolu Smith even gave him good minutes, but Cade was the story. Bon Temps just did his third straw poll or his second straw poll and I saw Cade was third in the voting. He was second on my ballot, mostly because he's played about 300 more minutes than Jokic, but he's also just been so good in the clutch and he was dominant last night. OG was the only guy who stood a chance for the Knicks, but Detroit did a really good job of getting OG off of him. And then anytime they would get a switch on Brunson, Hart, Bridges, just too small like Cade could either get to his spots with his muscles and rise up over the top or in Brunson and Hart's case, literally just shoot over the top of them. The vision is there to find guys for assists. So he's a 40 and 10 game. Incredible stuff. I don't really remember the previous Knicks Pistons games well enough to know the strategies, but if these two teams meet in the playoffs, they're going to have to double team him the entire time. They weren't doing that last night. And I'm sure that's probably Mike Brown saving something for the playoffs in case they do have a matchup. But there's no way they can play this guy one on one. Nobody stands a chance against Cade.
Matt Rogers
He's too damn strong. I mean he is so physical. They beat him now six straight times in regulation in the regular season. They lost in the playoff series, obviously. Yeah, so. But this is coming off. It's literally, I don't know, 15 days before. I'm just throwing out that number. But it's a couple of weeks before they beat him by 31. And then you come out of the All Star Game without your starting center and the backup center and that guy is able to get anywhere. Just plowing through everybody and taking the most shots he's taken in a regulation game this year because his second best player wasn't there 34 shots in this game. That was super impressive, doing whatever he wanted. Now he got a lot of support from guys and he was setting them up. He dropped 12 dimes because he's so just in command of his body. He gets into the lane and when he wants to pass, he slows down. So he doesn't commit an offensive foul. But getting it out to Duncan Robinson, who had three really important threes. Javante Green hit a three Carousel Vert hit two threes in the fourth quarter that were pretty important. But that Paul Reed guy, you drafted him in our expansion draft. If we had a Las Vegas and Seattle teams coming out, he was awesome. I don't know what is in the centers for the Detroit Pistons, but to see him block Cat and to see what Isaiah Stewart has become when he's leads in defensive field goal percentage at the rim in the NBA. Isaiah Stewart 42.7, that's surprising. And so that, that's. I mentioned all these guys that are sort of falling perfectly behind Cade Cunningham. And it's surprising to say that. I know 24 hours ago when we had that show and I said, the Pistons are my team right now, coming out of the Eastern Conference. And you said, who's that second guy to help out Cade? It's a fair question. But now they have. Everybody is just, it's just falling in position. You got a bad game from Tobias Harris, but it didn't matter because they were seventh, eighth and ninth, 10th. And Ron Holland, I didn't even mention him. Like those guys came through because. Because of what Kate is. I mean, he's. He just demands that because of how good he is.
Jay Skeets
The block that you mentioned Paul Reed on Cat. Did you see Jalen Brunson's reaction to said block? The cameras went over to the bench and Brunson dropped a. Just a huge, like big ass sigh on what are you doing? Type of cat. That clip went viral last night.
Matt Rogers
I mean, Paul Reed had a hand on Cats. Yeah, he did. But I think that must be in the coaching, like, because everybody's doing it. Like we just said, Kate does it too. I mean, they're good at being physical with their offhand.
Jay Skeets
Did you see JB Bickerstaff's comp for Cunningham? Did you read this? Made me laugh. He said he's Neo from the Matrix, but not the early Neo who was red pilled into reality. The one in the later films where Bickerstaff said who realized he was the one.
Matt Rogers
Wow.
Jay Skeets
So that's Bickerstaff talking about Cade saying he is. He is like the developed Neo. You're the one.
Tasmelis
You don't hear a lot about the Matrix sequels in 2026.
Matt Rogers
So.
Tasmelis
Great reference.
Jay Skeets
Yeah, absolutely.
Tasmelis
By that guy. But I mean, he was in total control. There's no doubt about it. He could take down as many Agent Smiths as Knicks were throwing at him. Yeah.
Jay Skeets
Where did you put Kate on your MVP ballot for the straw poll for Bon Temps? Trey said you went as high as two.
Tasmelis
He was my number.
Jay Skeets
So you went Shay, then Cade and then Jokic. Okay. I think I did the exact same.
Matt Rogers
I had him at four task mellow. I mean, I'm. Yeah, I know Jokic. Jokic was above him. And I'm on a Wemby high right now. I mean, is that, you know. Sure, it's fine.
Tasmelis
Sure. Yeah, he's pretty good too.
Jay Skeets
My one final thought on this game, and this is from Kelly Dwyer. I saw in his newsletter he said, if the Pistons can top the knicks by basically 28 points per game a year after New York beat Detroit in the playoffs, why aren't we all in love with the 25, 26 Detroit Pistons? Why isn't this everyone's second favorite team? And he made comparisons to like, you know, when the Knicks suddenly got good again, everyone's like, oh, it's great. Having the Knicks is good for basketball. The Bulls, we always joke, but when they're actually half decent, the Bulls are back and all that. He even said the Hornets obviously getting a lot of love. He's like, why aren't, why aren't we sort of we the media, I guess fans doing the same for the Detroit
Matt Rogers
Pistons because it's not a big market. I mean, I'm not referring to us because we give the Pistons love. I said, they're the team that's going to come out of the east, but there's not as big a market. And that's it.
Tasmelis
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Detroit is. Is pegged as a smaller town. Smaller, just not as big, but not as glamorous.
Jay Skeets
The Charlotte Hornets are a small town and people are falling in love with them.
Matt Rogers
Are they?
Tasmelis
Oh, they were.
Matt Rogers
They're saying, stay off the roads because you're going to get hit by lamello balls.
Jay Skeets
Yes. Don't get, don't take a rickshaw in Charlotte. I guess Mellow's out there zipping around now.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. In his post game press conference response to that was. He was. He was just kind of done with the questions. He didn't, he didn't own it and answer the questions. Yesterday, post game when he was asked about it, he just got up, his pants were half down his butt, literally. I don't know why. And he just walked out. He didn't own it. So that was, that was unfortunate. I thought a lot of the post game conferences other than J.B. bickerstaff's comments about the Matrix were sad last night and we'll get to more of them because I, I was taking notes. Yeah. Lamelo didn't own it. That was. Yeah, I was wrong.
Jay Skeets
Do you have any theories on sort of why the Pistons are oddly just not getting the love maybe that they deserve here?
Tasmelis
I think it is a little bit hard to believe in the Pistons like we talked about, they haven't won a playoff series yet. They played a great series last year against the Knicks, but I think in their recent past, their losing streak is more memorable than even their playoffs last year. You look at the way they're playing this season and teams talk about 2, 3, 4 in the Eastern Conference a lot more. You know, the Cavs made the move for Harden. We're wondering when Jayson Tatum will come back. The Knicks, we keep expecting to see them reach the ceiling. Meanwhile, it does feel like the Pistons are playing above their heads in some sort of sense.
Matt Rogers
Right?
Tasmelis
They don't have a number two guy really. Like, Tobias Harris had an okay game last night, but him giving him like 11 points was huge for them. So I think you forecast the way the playoffs could go. Teams will scheme to take Kate out of the game. Then what do they do? There's a lot of questions there. I think also being a super physical defensive team, we've seen that be successful in a lot of regular seasons and then fall short in the postseason. So to me, there are still playoff question marks to be answered. But undeniably they got the best record in the league. They've got a guy who is an MVP top three candidate in Cade Cunningham. But you got to do something in the playoffs first. I think it's not totally dissimilar to when OKC, before they won the championship during the 2324 season, they were the best team in the Western conference. They won 60 plus games. And still everybody's like, okay, do something in the playoffs. They won one playoff series, then they lost in round two. Same thing could easily happen to the Pistons this year, but it just means they're on the upswing. And I think the fact that the Eastern Conference was down this year, the last two teams to make the finals out of the east were taken out of the running, basically. And the Celtics and the Pacers, it feels like they're almost a replacement team in some sort of sense. Whereas where people aren't necessarily thinking this is a true Blue title contender, but at the very least, they should be the favorites in the Eastern Conference. They've been the best team the entire season.
Matt Rogers
You're right that we do. We don't anoint them until they do it. That's just how basketball works.
Jay Skeets
And I went through those three benchmarks or checklists that you want to hit to be an elite team. With the spurs yesterday, the Pistons hit all those as well. Easily, you know, easily to 40 wins before 20 losses. The great SRs of the four plus, they're. They're like actually better than the spurs. And then they're a top three seed. Of course they're the number one seed, so they do that as well. And. And history tells us like you sort of have to hit those marks in order to win the whole thing. But you guys are right. It's like we got the spurs in the west and the Pistons in the east and it's like, why not either of these team? Why couldn't they meet in the finals?
Matt Rogers
2005 again, difficult.
Jay Skeets
Yeah. 2005. I hope it's not the 2005 finals between those two teams.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. We had one team in the seven game series get over 100 points. Just one in one game.
Jay Skeets
That's incredible.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, it's nice to have some points. We all wonder if. But Jason Tatum's coming back. I look at actually because yesterday while we were watching the game, you said that there was another report from Chris Haynes about Jason Tatum, didn't you? It wasn't there. It was not there. I didn't see. Look, I never got to read it. I was just trying to tell you, man. I saw it. I was like, I'll go back. And then I went. I went to his Twitter account. I didn't see a Hanes report and
Tasmelis
see a Haynes brief.
Matt Rogers
I didn't see Haynes. It disappeared, man. I was just looking for it too. I could not find it. Yes. So that's obviously a great question. If Tatum comes back, I mean, we have to see him be able to play. Yeah. To his capabilities. But yeah. Celtics, Pistons could easily be the Eastern Conference final.
Jay Skeets
The Pistons want the playoffs to start tomorrow.
Tasmelis
Yes.
Jay Skeets
Because they might be the best team in the league. They are. It feels like right now the way they're playing overall with down guys even. But it's still a while, unfortunately.
Matt Rogers
Stewart has the best defensive percentage at the rim. I just can't get over that the guy's.
Tasmelis
He didn't know a single shot at the rim last night.
Matt Rogers
He didn't.
Tasmelis
He was shutting it down.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jay Skeets
All right. Another game we got to address. Benedict Matheran scored 38 points for the Clippers and they want a wild one over the nuggets. 115, 114. I say wild because Jamal Murray, he had a uneventful final minute. Let me run through it. He got a blow by dunk on Brook Lopez at the end of it that pulled the Nuggets within two. Then he had a crazy three, a classic like Jamal like pump fake and then sort of fade three on the wing that pulled the Nuggets within one. And then right at the end he drew a foul at the buzzer on a three point attempt. He steps to the line. He swishes the first one. All right, here we go. The second one rattles Home a little bit.
Tasmelis
Broadcaster said. Caught a little more iron than I think you would have liked.
Jay Skeets
That's right. And the third one he botched it. He misses. And the Clippers survive with the 115, 114 victory. So. Crazy game.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. And they're. They decided to shoot in front of the wall for the second half. That came into effect. They missed five free throws in the fourth quarter. The what works to some degree.
Jay Skeets
It does. The stats say that does a little bit too.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. What also would would work is Nikola Jokic playing like Nico Yoko. She ain't right. He's. I mean he just had a bad game. He just hasn't been incredibly precise in those. I think he's played eight games since he returned from injury. At six turnovers in this one. He's sloppy Jokic.
Jay Skeets
The first time he's ever come back from a. Like a real injury.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. True. Yeah. And you know he's going behind the back and losing the ball. And that's when Benedict Matheran started the running. He's coming off the bench. And that's where Benedict Matheran's peak may come from. Coming off the bench, dribble handoff screens. It's your time, my man. You just go score. And so yes. He was awesome. It was weird to see the Nuggets just not play like themselves. Yokesh over from three. So we didn't see a good Nuggets game.
Tasmelis
They've been pretty average since he came back. 3 and 5. And like you're saying, they were totally Sloppy last night. Six turnovers for Yokoh, four for Murray. They had 17 total. That was allowing the Clippers to get out and match them from a fast break point of view. I thought Derek Jones Jr. Was really good for LA. I thought John Collins gave them a little something early on as well. But it basically comes down to Jokic and Murray just weren't good enough. We've seen at least three times this season Murray go to the line on a three shot foul and miss at least one. He shoots 70, 76% from the free throw line in clutch situations. I don't know if that means anything or if he's just been having a little bit of bad luck. But he. He's got to make the free throw. He blew it. There's no other way around it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. And we do talk about their injuries all the time. It may help both Jokic and Jamal Murray just to have Aaron Gordon there's because he is their third best player is as much as I thought the Cam Johnson Trade would work out. It has not to this point. He has not been great. Just Aaron Gordon taking some pressure off their shoulders. Especially Jamal Murray. Considering how much has been on his shoulders with all these injuries this entire season, I think that is something to worry about going into. Not just February, March, but April and May. I mean, this is the most that he's had to do in his career. So that is a worry.
Jay Skeets
And this might be a great opportunity here for Benedict Matheran. Like this role he might be able to get to play for the Clippers. Getting to shoot a ton.
Tasmelis
Obviously attacks from a Pacers team that has nobody on offense.
Jay Skeets
True
Matt Rogers
player.
Jay Skeets
But we've seen him have big games even in bigger moments.
Tasmelis
I mean, he can score. There's no doubt about it.
Jay Skeets
Yeah. Yeah. So sort of up and down.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jay Skeets
Can you put it together consistently and
Tasmelis
he's playing for a contract?
Jay Skeets
Yes.
Tasmelis
You know.
Jay Skeets
Yeah, there's that too. But he knows how to get his buckets. I mean he still lives at the free throw line. I mean 12 of 13 last night for this guy too. And that's pretty normal for him when he gets any opportunity. But big win from the Clips as they. As they get one there and they're
Tasmelis
a game under.500 and a game and a half out of the eighth seed. And they're chasing the warriors, who look bad right now, even though Porzingis played last night. But that's about the only guy Steph Curry did not. So certainly I think the Clippers have a pretty good shot to get into the eighth seed, which gives them two chances to make it into the playoffs.
Jay Skeets
Let's show you the other scores from last night. We had the Hawks beating the Sixers. Cook out of that. The Wizards beat the Pacers. You had the Magic hitting a million threes against the Kings. Their losing streak continues. The Cavs dominated the Nets. Rockets. Hornets was a close one. That was a fun one. 105101 for Houston. Raptors beat your Bulls and Celtics beat the warriors. Like you said. Any other takeaways from. From those ones that you want to address?
Tasmelis
Burners exposed for Kevin Durant. But he won back his team by being awesome at basketball. 35 points, eight boards, four rebound or four assists, three blocks and just kind of took over down the stretch. Which is exactly why they made the move for him during the off season. So I think he hasn't tweeted in five days. That is evidence enough for me. That was 100% him in those group chats.
Jay Skeets
So crazy. Yeah, he's just talking and sharing this stuff with basically randoms. Yeah, that's insane. But I believe it.
Tasmelis
We all need validation that guy.
Jay Skeets
A lot.
Tasmelis
Yes. You would think being one of the 20 best basketball players of all time would be enough, but I guess not. Evan Mobley came back for the Cleveland Cavaliers. They just completely destroyed them.
Jay Skeets
It was over in a hurry.
Tasmelis
Yeah. He didn't have to do very much, but pretty cool alley oop from James Harden to Donovan Mitchell. And Mitchell was like Spider Man. The way he finished it leaning over, that was almost dangerous, I thought, the way he went up for the dunk.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. And we saw another wolf get dunked on. It's not like we saw the first wolf get dunked on. We did, but I just wanted to make another wolf reference. Keon Ellis dunked right in Danny Wolf's face. Right in the snout, right in the mouth of that wolf. Jared Allen kind of had a no look dunk. I don't know if you guys saw, like, espn. They froze it when. When he threw it down. He literally wasn't looking at the rim. It was kind of a nice dunk for Jared Allen. You don't say that too often.
Jay Skeets
How would you score it in a dunk contest?
Matt Rogers
I mean, not good. It was just a regular dunk. But he wasn't looking at Jackson Hayes did
Tasmelis
well. I guess this was maybe better if Jared Allen wasn't looking.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then you need to see the replays and you just screen grab it. I thought. Yeah. Durant finishing Charlotte, 10 straight points to end the game. That he scored the last 10 points. I don't know. Do his buddies like him, though? Like Shangun didn't have a good game in that one. His. His friends. But Kevin Durant was awesome. I thought Jaden Ivy's post game press conference was. Oh, unfortunate. Go ahead. Because he had a DMP CD in this game and they were talking about they have six guards and that whole thing and they got to play some guys. But he said after the game, quote, I've been dealing with knee soreness in my knee. I'm sure people can call it out. I'm not the same player I used to be. That's why I'm not the JI I used to be. The old JI is dead. That was unfortunate to hear.
Tasmelis
Yeah. He's super young.
Matt Rogers
Yes, yes, yes. So hopefully he can come around because, you know, I started to think about it. It wasn't his knee that he hurt last year when he literally broke his leg when Cole Anthony kind of took out his legs. So shouldn't be an effect of. Or shouldn't have an effect of a bad knee when you literally break your leg. But I suppose it could. So anyways, hopefully he gets back to who he is. He's also playing for a contract here, but also not playing.
Jay Skeets
Not playing for contract. When you're a dmp, it is unfortunate and I slipped it in there that the Magic hit a bunch of threes. They set a franchise record for most three pointers made in a game. They hit 27 for 50 from deep against the lowly Kings. The Magic are not a good three point shooting team. They're one of the worst in the league. They shoot like 34%. They're like 27th in the league. Like one of the worst teams and have been for a while. But you know, on any given night these things can drop 27.
Tasmelis
How many did they hit in the fourth quarter? Basketball Reference wasn't working for me. Right.
Jay Skeets
Yeah, it was funky for me too.
Tasmelis
I was getting a lot of 404s, but it was a close, close game until the fourth quarter and then they went crazy. At least what it looked like.
Jay Skeets
Nuts.
Tasmelis
I did see Reyno hit a Larry Bird shot. Yeah, that's cool. I like that. Anytime he was like cheesing when it happens, like, did you see that?
Matt Rogers
But that wasn't on the top 10, right? I don't.
Jay Skeets
That one was number nine or something like that.
Matt Rogers
Okay.
Jay Skeets
It just snuck in.
Matt Rogers
It was worthy.
Tasmelis
It was worthy. I'm bead missed last three of the last four for the Sixers.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, that's.
Tasmelis
I don't think I like that.
Jay Skeets
No.
Matt Rogers
Oh, yeah.
Tasmelis
Like that.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, that's definitely something to worry about.
Jay Skeets
And did you have any takeaways on Porzingis in a Warriors jersey?
Tasmelis
I just saw him wrapped up in a jump ball. I saw him hit a deep three from way downtown. Bang. And I saw him get involved in a jump ball where whoever the Celtic was was also holding onto it for a long time. I'm not letting go. You're not letting go. We used to play together and I saw a hug from Jaylen Brown, who
Jay Skeets
had a great game, you know, but monster game.
Tasmelis
I'm surprised to see Porzingis playing before a lot of these other guys that were traded at the deadline, you know.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, he's playing.
Tasmelis
Trey Young hasn't played. Davis hasn't played. Kaminga, I don't think played last night for the Hawks. Porzingis, I wouldn't have bet on him to be the first guy to make a return.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, it seemed like, he got better as the game went on just watching the Porzingis clips. But they are going to go into this postseason with the hopes that Chris Porzingis is going to play with the hope that Steph Curry is going to be beside him because he's going to be reevaluated in 10 days if I'm not incorrect.
Jay Skeets
So it's not looking good for the warriors right now. I mean, you don't have any chance of Steph Curry's not playing.
Matt Rogers
No.
Jay Skeets
You just complete. Your team's completely different.
Tasmelis
They don't have a chance of playing. They have a chance to, like, make the playoffs maybe, but they're not going to do anything. Once Jimmy went down, the season was over.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. They could have a fun first round and try and beat another team. If Kristaps is clicking with Steph, there's a fun first round. Maybe. All right, hold on. I do want to ask about an Al Horford interview. I was surprised by Al Horford playing his old team, the Boston Celtics, and he was asked why he left, and I just didn't expect Al to answer it this way. He said, it's more than basketball. I'll tell people at another time, essentially that. So it sounds like it's money.
Tasmelis
Yeah, it's money.
Matt Rogers
But Al. I'm just surprised that Al gives a poop about money the same way most NBA players do. Obviously, Al just doesn't care at this
Jay Skeets
point of his career.
Matt Rogers
He just.
Jay Skeets
What are you talking about?
Tasmelis
Money is about money.
Jay Skeets
You don't get to a certain age and not care.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah, I know he's 39 or whatever he is, but he wouldn't say it's more than that. I'm making now. He's now making 8 million or so. I think it's 8 million with the Warriors. Right. So what? The Celtics offered him four. It just.
Jay Skeets
It didn't.
Matt Rogers
It didn't all fit in. Like, it's. It's not just. It's not nothing for the Celtics. Maybe the Celtics didn't offer him anything. Maybe that's what it is.
Tasmelis
It was always. The writing was always on the wall that that was going to be Horford's last season because of the aprons and the repeater tax and all this stuff. So they decided to get cheaper. They went in with Keda and Garza as their centers this year, and it's completely worked out. Both of them have outplayed Horford this season. So the Celtics made the right choice, and Horford made the right choice for him. He's just not going to sniff another title.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, anyways, he said he's going to tell us at a later date and he doesn't talk much, so people will ask.
Jay Skeets
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All right, if you're just joining us on YouTube, hit the like button. Subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews and shout out to everybody that's come up to us here in Austin and said I love either the starters. That's what you made me think of that. Or loving the podcast. So thanks to it was really fun to meet everybody here in Austin. We didn't know how many people were going to show up to yesterday's podcast. We barely pitched it. Yeah, we like put it on a we buried it on a Sunday podcast on All Star Weekend. Hey, maybe we'll see you in Austin. And we were pretty blown away with by how many people showed up. So thank you, thank you, thank you. Before we go and get on a plane back to Atlanta, NBA Commissioner Adam Silver informed all general managers yesterday that the league plans to institute rule changes to combat tanking next season. A competition committee met in late January and then Thursday's gathering here of all these GMs. They reportedly discussed several potential measures to solve tanking. Let me run through them. There's actually a lot that they're considering.
Tasmelis
Yes there is.
Jay Skeets
First 1. First round draft picks can be protected only for top 4 or top 14 plus selections. 2. Lottery odds freeze at the trade deadline or a later date. 3. No longer allowing a team to pick in the top four in consecutive years and or after consecutive bottom three finishes. Option 4 Teams can't pick in the top for the year after making the conference finals. 5. Lottery odds allocated based on two year records, something like the WNBA does. 6. Lottery extended to include all playing teams or seven flat nods for all lottery teams. They are contemplating everything Silver says here.
Tasmelis
Yeah, it sounds like this guy's been on Twitter a lot because this is every idea you've seen ever pitched in the past two weeks since the trade deadline as tanking has kind of taken over the discourse here. To me, every single one of these solutions still incentivizes losing just to different amounts and there are different loopholes for how teams will get through it. None of them make teams want to win. These are all about trying to make teams want to lose a little bit less. So to me, these are all just Band Aid solutions. What they need to do is what the Professional Women's Hockey League does. The Gold plan they after your team is Eliminated from the playoffs, you start getting points towards the draft. Whoever gets the most points gets the best pick. That's the only way to keep every team invested.
Jay Skeets
Right. Incentivize winning at the end.
Tasmelis
Yes.
Jay Skeets
For the bad team.
Tasmelis
Yes. To help your chances and they still have better chances. The worst team that gets eliminated first, you have the most games.
Matt Rogers
Right.
Tasmelis
To possibly stack up draft odds.
Jay Skeets
What do you think, Tess?
Matt Rogers
Yes. The list of Adam Silver's remedies are band aids, so that's a good way to put it. There's no quick answer for any of those. You could still lose games.
Jay Skeets
I found that they're trying to de. Emphasize losing with some of these.
Tasmelis
Yeah.
Matt Rogers
De. Emphasize it. Right, right, right. The one that was interesting that you mentioned there that, that Silver listed was you can't have two top four picks in back to back years. Essentially. Like, you can have one. You can be bad one year, you can tank it. So you can pull what the Dallas Mavericks pulled this year and say, Cooper, flag, you're our point guard. That's not gonna help us win the first 10 games of the season, but you know, it's good for us. Anthony Davis, you sit. Kyrie Irving, you said. So there's ways around it.
Jay Skeets
Yeah.
Tasmelis
I mean, that one's almost the craziest one to me because. Okay, so one year, four teams will get in the top four picks. That means those teams are out for the top four next year. That means you have 10 teams who are eligible for the first pick. Why would you not tank to be one of those 10 teams?
Jay Skeets
Right.
Matt Rogers
Why would you not want. Yes, right.
Tasmelis
Like there would be no point being the 10th seed when I'd rather be. Have the 12th best draft odds, which are actually like the 6th best draft odds once you drop the top four teams.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Tasmelis
And so two year. The two year records thing is ridiculous. That just means teams are going to tank for two years.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jay Skeets
Like you went. You. Like you said almost every one of these proposed ideas that they're going to talk about, you can like. No, you can get around that.
Tasmelis
If you think about it for five seconds, you can get around it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There isn't. It's either eliminate the draft entirely. Which.
Jay Skeets
Right.
Matt Rogers
Isn't. That isn't gonna happen. Shouldn't happen. Yeah. The. What you bring up there with the Women's Hockey league idea is. Is interesting. So. So at the end of the season, you want to win games. After you're eliminated, you want to win games.
Jay Skeets
Right.
Matt Rogers
Is there a, a team that says, oh, we're Going to tank for the first 40 games of the season. We're eliminated from the playoffs, but now we're going to go for the first draft pick and win.
Tasmelis
Sure, try it.
Matt Rogers
Try it.
Tasmelis
Yeah, try building a team that's. That's bad enough to lose for the first half and good enough to win for the second half.
Matt Rogers
Well, you sick guys, even if you have a good team, you say, hey, our best players, you sit, we're going for the number one pick this week.
Tasmelis
Okay, okay. Like, you're getting $500,000 fines for every single time you do it.
Jay Skeets
The other.
Matt Rogers
The goals did with David Robinson for Tim Duncan, you know, like that kind of thing. Like, you just don't play my man,
Jay Skeets
but then play at the end, is what you were saying in the Gold Plan.
Matt Rogers
Go get. Go get the first pick. It's obviously terrible for your fan base.
Jay Skeets
The Gold Plan is interesting. I think there's something there. I do wonder if it gets a little too confusing for everyone. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I wonder, too, are players, the players, are they going to play harder down the stretch for better odds at players that will potentially replace them on better, you know, salaries for his franchise? You get into that now, we say all the players are never actually tanking like the ones that are out there are trying.
Matt Rogers
That is true.
Jay Skeets
Which I. I do believe, too, but that's the one counter I've seen to that. It's like, why are they. Why are these guys going to, you know, really go for it, so to speak, to help their team?
Tasmelis
How's that different than now, though?
Jay Skeets
Yeah, I know.
Tasmelis
I know.
Jay Skeets
Exactly. I just don't think they should do anything. Nothing, really. It's like. Yeah, I think it's. I think. I don't think this is going to be every single year.
Tasmelis
It's not, but it hasn't been enough years. It's enough years that it happens all the time.
Jay Skeets
I mean, what is it? Yeah, last year it wasn't insane. We weren't having this conversation. Year before that, we were not going crazy. Even in good drafts.
Tasmelis
I just don't.
Jay Skeets
I think they're going to overreact like they always do. And they read all the tweets and I go, oh, we got to do something drastic, and then we'll probably be worse. So I don't know.
Tasmelis
My team's tanking the second half of the season this year sucks. I don't care to watch the Bulls right now. Your team tanked the second half of the season last year. You didn't Watch the Raptors. That's just not a way that fans should be treated. You should want to stay invested in your team trying to win games. You shouldn't be happy when they win.
Jay Skeets
Every team's gonna go 61 and 21. I mean, that's true.
Tasmelis
That's true, but they should be. Every team should be trying to win.
Jay Skeets
Right, right, right. I mean, yeah. You don't want to see healthy guys just shut down. I. No one's going to deny that, especially when these ticket prices where they are and a family takes you to see it. And you want to see these players, but incentivize them. Difficult, because there's always a workaround because there's. There's an incentive to tank because it's such a great way to add players who are good, obviously. Yes, because they're high draft picks, but they're cheap. That's the whole other part of this building. You can lock them up for a long time.
Tasmelis
Yeah, yeah. Getting a draft pick is huge.
Jay Skeets
Aprons and all that. It's like, such a. An advantage, of course, to have these young guys. Any other wild ideas you'd like to see? I saw this one. I just want to share it with you guys. Hire the sorting hat from Harry Potter and just assign players to teams based off of vibes. What a show that would be. Instead of that, instead of the sorting hat, we could use that creepy animatronic ball we recently saw. Oddball.
Tasmelis
I just saw this ball.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Tasmelis
Old ball. I'm not gonna watch any of the clips.
Jay Skeets
Old ball.
Tasmelis
Nope. I don't want it in my algorithm.
Jay Skeets
How do you think about that idea, though? Just. Just, you know, let the. Let Silver. Let the hat. Let the ball decide.
Tasmelis
I mean, that's what we have now. Adam Silver decides who gets the number one draft pick.
Jay Skeets
There you go.
Tasmelis
If your team trades a franchise superstar, guess what? You're getting the number one draft pick. It's already rigged, so I. I don't know how that changes anything.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, that's why we have to publicly televise. It is the lottery balls. Well, it's on. It's on NBA.com. does anybody. Does anybody watch that?
Jay Skeets
Well, you can, is the point. If you're so convinced it's rigged, you can watch it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, you can actually, apparently, actually watch the actual lottery balls bounce around on NBA.com. i've never watched it, but I would watch a good TV production. See, that's not a good production. It's not fun.
Tasmelis
What I used to watch when the lottery was on, like the actual. Like the Illinois lottery, you know, like, it pops up the balls, but I mean, that lasts like 30 seconds. So fast.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah. So it's not as fun to watch the NBA one, which. I don't know. How long does that take? An hour? Like, it takes a while because of.
Jay Skeets
But you wouldn't want. Okay, but the production sorting hat, old ball, whatever the hell. We're using Silver himself. That's a show right there. We're just like, all right. We bring up the draft pick, and Silver looks at him and goes, boozer, you are going to Sacramento. And we're like, crazy.
Matt Rogers
Go ahead, do it.
Tasmelis
Probe style. Jeff Probst walks around with a bag of rocks. You reach in. It's got your draft slot in there.
Jay Skeets
Hold it up.
Tasmelis
All right, everybody reveal.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, there's your team. I just know that we could produce the NBA's lottery balls way better.
Jay Skeets
Yeah, we have. Is what we're getting at.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Tasmelis
Yeah.
Jay Skeets
Basically, that's.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. But it's short. The one that actually happens. The one that's, you know, in. In the lockdown format. Like the entirely secure situation. Like, it's like. It's a ledger. Ledger stacks can be done better with lots of graphics, lots of fun. Well, more produced, greater hosts. It's not that fun. I've never turned it on before. I've never turned it on.
Jay Skeets
You never turned on the draft lottery?
Matt Rogers
No, the actual lottery, which happens behind closed doors.
Tasmelis
The sorting of the ball, the sorting
Matt Rogers
of whatever they're doing. I don't even know what they're doing, but yeah, because I'll never watch it.
Tasmelis
The draft lottery isn't long enough. Make it longer and show us the balls.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. I mean, I don't know how.
Tasmelis
It's a half hour special to begin with.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. They talk forever.
Tasmelis
They introduce the guy Jared McCain.
Jay Skeets
Come out. Oh, my God. We used to get 15 minutes of heather Cox. We'd see Heather Cox once a year in the NBA world.
Tasmelis
They read off 14 picks and still somehow take a break in those 14 picks. That should take five minutes, tops.
Jay Skeets
They gotta. They gotta sell those commercials. Let's hear from you on tanking. Everybody's got an opinion on it. If these are the things that Only things they're considering, I'm confident they will do something with these pick protections which have played a part here in some of these teams. Like, oh, because you're sort of these middle teams. It's like, oh, stay. Bad enough, we keep it.
Matt Rogers
Yeah.
Jay Skeets
You know, that stuff that is a somewhat of an easy solution to. At Least a little wrinkle that maybe de emphasizes some of the losing because it's like you can't do that anymore. You know, there's, there's no concern of losing said pick because of protections. I think that's what they. If they're gonna do something, man, maybe try that. Don't go drastic of the night. Unsullied by sponsorship since last week.
Matt Rogers
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Jay Skeets
But no sponsor here today.
Matt Rogers
Yes, unsponsored.
Jay Skeets
Thank God. Back to, back to basics. A real clean. Whoa, boy. Here Cade Cunningham gets woah, boy, the night. Not a surprise. 42 points, 13 assists. I had tests. You said 12 earlier. Oh, some box scores are different, you know.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Jay Skeets
I had 42 and 13. He shot 17 to 34 from the field. He hit five from deep, eight rebounds, two blocks, one steal for Cade Cunningham.
Matt Rogers
If the various websites were televised debating whether or not cade Cunningham had 12 assists or 13 assists or 14. Would you watch that? Yes, depending on statisticians. Me neither.
Jay Skeets
ESPN's box score. 13 assists.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, maybe I fat fingered that. I was using. I was. No, I was. Was. I didn't type it on my phone. I typed it on my comp. Okay, why are you questioning where I typed it? But I, I use the NBA app. I use John Schuman's box scores. So I thought it was 12.
Jay Skeets
Anyway, that's what I said. Sometimes they're different.
Matt Rogers
Yeah, absolutely.
Jay Skeets
Absolutely. I've seen it before, seen it with my own eyes. Congrats to Kate on a wo boy. That's a really nice wo boy. Pick them tonight. Friday night. We did have the Spur Suns game last night. Trey got forced to take the sun, sort of. And they got.
Tasmelis
I boldly took the Suns. I thought they were gonna do good.
Jay Skeets
Okay.
Tasmelis
I had a lot of confidence in Mark, but man, that may. That might be the, the biggest blowout on the line because it was an eight point line and they still lost about 30.
Jay Skeets
Yeah, it wasn't even close. So Trey's four and six, I'm five and five, you're seven and three. You know, not a long month. February, last I checked. We got like a week to go here.
Matt Rogers
Yep. Six more games. And because Trey was forced to take
Tasmelis
the loser, these guys held me down in Phoenix. Fingers in my nose.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. So tonight I said Denver at Portland. I definitely wanted to take Denver to avenge themselves for yesterday. Also. First game back from an All Star Game. Week off. I think that may be part.
Jay Skeets
It can be a weird game.
Matt Rogers
It was Colin Gillespie. Not the Colin Gillespie. Must be. I know he could have been better. Better either way. Because it's Denver. Portland. I wanted to take Denver. I said, you guys pick. We need to have a third one that's different for some reason. So you're. You're smart. Trey, you took Denver. Skeets, you took Denver. And I get shafted with Portland.
Jay Skeets
Line's only one and a half.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Portland can win. They say shafted. They could absolutely win. Danny could be redeeming himself for his poor All Star performance tonight. Who knows?
Tasmelis
Still, I'll play like Jokic in the All Star Game.
Matt Rogers
Yeah. Yeah. Y' all not right. Anyways, Denver, one and a half point favorite in Portland.
Jay Skeets
There it is. We'll call it there. We got a flight to catch back to Atlanta. We're back on Monday. NBA Weekend. Winners and losers again. Thanks to Ledger for sending your boys down here. Thanks to Casa de Spurs and everybody that put that together for having us there for the live show. Thanks for the tickets, too. You know, was a blowout, but it was fun to be in the Moody Center.
Tasmelis
We had fun.
Jay Skeets
Be with the Jackals themselves. I talked to Big Red, for crying out loud. He forgot his jacket. Said he left it drying outside.
Tasmelis
I guess that's something you can do here. But he did say jacket for it
Jay Skeets
to arrive for Saturday's game.
Tasmelis
So ship me my jacket.
Jay Skeets
Yeah, I guess so.
Tasmelis
Wow.
Jay Skeets
Okay. Maybe throw it in an Uber. Throw it in a rickshaw.
Tasmelis
Chance they had songs.
Jay Skeets
It was good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So that was fun. And thanks. Everybody said hi either there at the live show or at the game last night or on the streets here of Austin. Really appreciate that. And yeah, we'll see you guys on Monday. Until then, Clipper Bros, you heard it here first.
Tasmelis
Have a great time. Turn up.
Jay Skeets
Love you guys.
Tasmelis
Awesome.
Matt Rogers
Thanks for joining us. And remember Spurs Nacho, man, He got kicked out of the game.
Jay Skeets
Never got in.
Matt Rogers
Never got in. But you can join us. Spurs Nacho, Avenge yourself. Come on. No dunks. And tell us what happened, why it happened, where it happened, and how we can avenge you. Not getting into the game.
Jay Skeets
Spurs Nacho on Monday's. No dunks. See you then. Brace the weekend, people.
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Jay Skeets
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Jay Skeets
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Jay Skeets
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Jay Skeets
This is Matt Rogers from Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
Tasmelis
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Jay Skeets
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Tasmelis
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Jay Skeets
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Tasmelis
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Jay Skeets
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Tasmelis
And finally, what if your WI fi was, like, the smartest wifi?
Jay Skeets
Yeah, it's wifi that is so smart,
Tasmelis
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Jay Skeets
Xfinity. Imagine that.
Tasmelis
30 years ago, scream changed horror forever. Now it's all led to this. In Scream 7, Sidney Prescott thought she'd finally escaped the nightmare of Ghostface, raising her family in a quiet town far away from the horrors of Woodsboro. She was wrong. And. And this time, the target isn't just her. It's her teenage daughter, Tatum, who's the same age Sidney was when the terror began. Neve Campbell returns in her iconic final girl role as Sidney Prescott, facing the
Jay Skeets
most brutal and psychological Ghostface yet.
Tasmelis
Joined by franchise favorites Courtney Cox, Jasmine Savoy Brown and Mason Gooding, alongside terrifying new blood, including Isabel May McKennie, Grace, Asa German, and more. Directed by franchise creator Kevin Williamson in his directorial debut, Scream 7 is packed with edge of your seat scares and shocks for everyone, with references and callbacks for screen fans everywhere. Ghostface is the terrifying horror icon alongside Freddy Jason and Michael Myers. And after 30 years, the mask still means one no one is safe. See Scream 7 in theaters February 27, because screams are always better when you hear them together.
Matt Rogers
This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human.
Hosts: Jay Skeets, Tasmelis (Tass), Trey Kirby, JD, Ash
Location: Austin, Texas (Live from the Moody Center, post-Spurs/Suns game)
In this lively, on-the-road episode of No Dunks, the crew recaps their trip to Austin, including attending the Spurs-Suns blowout, before diving into a monster night from Cade Cunningham and Detroit’s ongoing dominance. They debate the latest hot topics: MVP races, overlooked teams, and Adam Silver’s new anti-tanking proposals. Peppered with their trademark banter and unique in-person fan anecdotes, the show radiates basketball nerdery, irreverence, and passion for the NBA.
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[19:52–29:52]
[31:10–41:02]
[47:54–55:23]
Adam Silver’s sweeping tanking reforms, as discussed at GM meeting: ([48:55])
Draft Lottery TV production banter:
On Wemby’s effortless athleticism:
On Castle’s poise:
On Cade’s Neo comp:
On tanking fixes:
Fan culture in Austin:
An episode full of in-person camaraderie, basketball nerdery, and classic No Dunks wit. The hosts spotlight the physical, energetic rise of the Spurs and Pistons, dissect the NBA’s chronic tanking problem with sharp skepticism, and dish out memorable fan and league moments. They keep the energy high, the conversation brisk, and the analysis insightful for diehard and casual hoops heads alike.
Cade Cunningham: 42 pts, 13 ast, 8 reb, 2 blk, 1 stl
“Not a surprise... congrats to Cade on a Woah Boy. That’s a really nice Woah Boy.” (Jay, [60:13])
End of Summary.