The Drop | Knicks On Brink Of NBA Title, OG's Finals MVP Chances & World Cup Fever

Summary

No Dunks – The Drop | Knicks On Brink Of NBA Title, OG's Finals MVP Chances & World Cup Fever

Date: June 12, 2026
Hosts: J. Skeets, Tass (Tasmelis), Trey Kirby, JD
Podcast/Network: No Dunks, iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This jam-packed episode finds the No Dunks crew buzzing with excitement as the New York Knicks stand just one win away from their first NBA Championship in 53 years. The guys break down the pivotal Game 4 comeback, debate the true Finals MVP, and dissect what both the Knicks and Spurs need to do in Game 5. Later, they shift gears for some lighthearted World Cup fever—drafting their favorite national soccer teams heading into the tournament and sharing the randomness and joy of global sports.

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Key Sections & Highlights

1. Knicks-Spurs NBA Finals: Game 4 Aftermath & Game 5 Preview

Game 4: Historic Knicks Comeback (10:51 – 18:29)

• The Knicks erased a 29-point deficit in what Trey calls “easily the biggest win of our lifetime for the Knicks by far. Nothing even really compares to it... That’s probably the best Finals game in a decade, since 2016 Game 7.” (10:51)
• Dialogue on whether it was a Knicks heroic turnaround or a full-blown Spurs collapse. (13:13)
• “For them to come back from 29 down... that win probably won the Knicks the title.” — Trey Kirby (11:30)

Spurs’ Collapse & Key Swing Plays

• Skeets recaps the critical last-two-minute report which confirmed OG’s block on Fox was clean but the refs missed a foul call on Josh Hart and a defensive 3-second on Wemby. (06:44–07:17)
  • “Officials got it right... but they did identify two errors... but the big one—a foul on Josh Hart was missed.” – J. Skeets (06:44)

Home Court & Little Moments That Defined the Game

• The hosts laugh about John Starks' influence on a controversial out-of-bounds call and how the raucous Knicks crowd “got them a call.” (08:45–09:42)
• “This is why home court advantage actually matters.” – Trey Kirby (09:40)

Takeaways for Game 5: Can the Spurs Bounce Back?

• The pod universally agrees: The young Spurs have struggled to execute late in games and must “blow out the Knicks” to have a real shot. (18:29–20:00)
• “Don’t do something completely stupid in the final 10 seconds... They have two all-time brain farts in this series.” – Trey Kirby (20:00)
• “They just keep giving [leads] back... they have a point differential of +4.47 in first quarters alone in this series.” – J. Skeets (19:43)

2. Finals MVP Debate: OG vs. Brunson (22:31 – 26:41)

• “Probably not for me. The guy never misses... but 80% of his field goals are assisted, he is feasting.” – Trey Kirby on OG Anunoby (22:31)
• “It should be Jalen Brunson. He’s the most important player on that team. Let’s not do what we did to Steph with Iggy.” – Tass (23:05)
• “His best game in the series from tip to buzzer... but the NBA’s MVP ladder on NBA.com has him fourth? Wow.” – J. Skeets (24:41)
• Fun fact: OG has more made 3s in this finals than KAT and Brunson combined (OG: 15 to their 14). (25:55)

3. Game 5 Predictions (28:00 – 30:33)

• Trey: “It’s over—I can’t pick against the Knicks if this is a close game.”
• Tass: “The Spurs win if they spank them. Emotionally, both teams could be gassed. But I think Spurs force a Game 6.”
• J. Skeets: “My gut says the Spurs still have some fight in them—should be another close one.”

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4. World Cup Fever: The No Dunks National Team Draft (35:59 – 55:07)

World Cup Trivia & Draft Order (36:36–39:39)

• The crew warms up with trivia: name the 8 nations that have won the men’s World Cup.
• Classic banter and general confusion (“Portugal!” – JD. Nope. “Netherlands!” – Trey. Nope.), with Skeets guiding everyone through.

Draft Rules

• Each host drafts three teams they’re supporting—reasons may be dumb, sentimental, or strategic.
• Top picks include Canada (Tass), USA (Trey), France (JD), and Croatia (Skeets, who is traveling there during the final).

Notable Draft Moments

• “I absolutely have to take Canada. I’m excited about the Beaver Park they’ve launched.” – Tass (39:53)
• “The U.S. plays tonight. I look forward to learning the names of these young fellows.” – Trey (43:31)
• “My first pick—Croatia. I want to walk into a World Cup final in Dubrovnik!” – J. Skeets (45:40)

Fun Quotes & Moments

• Beavers, cars named Tucson, and saluting fellow drivers; European football nostalgia abounds (“Love a guy that’s balding and good at sports—Iniesta.” – Trey, 47:38).
• The food references roll: “I’ve been making pan con tomate lately... just grind up the tomatoes.” – Tass (48:19)

Team Recap

• Tass: Canada, Argentina, Mexico
• Trey: US, Spain, Brazil
• JD: France, England, Japan
• Skeets: Croatia, South Korea, Netherlands

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5. Rapid-Fire Fun (58:10 – 70:49)

Last Documentaries Watched (58:15–62:00)

• The panel shares their most recent docs—True crime, Will Smith’s global adventures, and classic music films.

“Favorite Dumb Thing You Do” (62:07–66:09)

• Skeets: Obsessive monitoring of Atlanta’s utility poles.
• Tass: He’s great at “knee farts”—“I could outdo those yoga farts. 100 a minute, I think.” (64:02)
• Trey: Starts the “Tucson salute”—a two-fingered wave for fellow Hyundai Tucson drivers.

Spurs Music Puns for Game 5 (66:54–70:49)

• “Bruce Spurssteen.”
• “Tony San Antonio.”
• “Spravana and Spurl Jam.”
• “Britney Spurs” (hopes no one runs onto the court to re-enact the famous Victor Wembanyama moment).
• Jokes about extra-long shirts for extra-long puns.

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6. Basketball Card Nostalgia: “Popping Packs” with Kelly Dwyer (71:34–80:19)

• Classic pop as the gang tries to identify players past and present from old cards.
• Highlights: Luka Dončić, Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard, Dikembe Mutombo, Kenny Anderson, Christian Laettner, Clyde Drexler, Vin Baker.
• “I love cards.” – J. Skeets (80:21)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

The Knicks’ Franchise Moment

• “That was easily the biggest win of our lifetime for the Knicks, by far.” – Trey Kirby (10:51)
• “No lead is safe in the NBA.” – Tass (13:48)

Spurs Heartbreak

• “Don’t be an idiot. Don’t do something completely stupid in the last 10 seconds of the game.” – Trey Kirby (20:00)

OG vs Brunson MVP Debate

• “Let’s not do what we did to Steph with Iggy... Just give it to Brunson.” – Tass (23:05)

Soccer Fever

• “Beaver park… I’ve seen one beaver in my life. As a Canadian, that just doesn’t feel right.” – Tass (40:09)
• “I arrive in Croatia the day before the World Cup final—imagine!” – J. Skeets (45:39)

Silly Shenanigans

• “I could outdo those yoga farts. It’s like, I’m like 100 a minute.” – Tass (64:12)
• “Every time I see a Tucson, I do the Tucson salute… two-fingered wave.” – Trey (65:25)

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Essential Timestamps

• 06:44 – Recap of L2M officiating report
• 10:51 – Knicks’ historic Game 4 comeback breakdown
• 18:29 – What Spurs must do in Game 5
• 22:31 – Finals MVP debate: OG vs Brunson
• 28:00 – Game 5 predictions
• 36:36 – World Cup trivia
• 39:39 – World Cup team draft begins
• 58:10 – Rapid-fire segment
• 66:54 – Spurs-music puns
• 71:34 – Basketball cards (“Popping Packs”)

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Tone & Vibe

Freewheeling, hyper-nerdy, and full of the warmth and inside jokes that make No Dunks beloved in the basketball podcast world. The hosts blend sharp, insightful basketball breakdowns with deep-cut humor, tangents, and a genuine love for sports in all their emotional and goofy glory.

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Overall

This episode is a must-listen (or read!) for Knicks fans, NBA Finals junkies, and anyone with a sports-fueled case of World Cup fever. The hosts jump between crunchy Xs-and-Os, debating MVPs, and the randomness of international soccer with ease—always keeping it light, memorable, and fan-focused, right up to the last knee fart.

Transcript

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[J. Skeets]

Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the no Dunks podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Friday, June 12, 2026. This is the Drop. I'm J. Skeets here in the classic factory and alongside me, as always, Tasmilis NBA podcast listeners.

[Tass]

This is for you.

[J. Skeets]

Next to him, it's my top shot, hot boy, Trey Kirby Ayo. Hey, yo. And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer jd.

[JD]

Hello.

[J. Skeets]

There he is. Here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hello, podcast listeners. First things first. How was Big Boy? And was he wearing a hat?

[Trey Kirby]

Red. Atlanta Braves fitted. Big Boy, I gotta say.

[Tass]

Not that big, the boy.

[J. Skeets]

No, he slipped out.

[Trey Kirby]

He's a small. He's a small man, actually.

[J. Skeets]

Well, yeah, he's never been all that tall.

[Trey Kirby]

Big Boy is a small man. You wouldn't think it, but, man, this guy puts on a great show. He plays every song you would want to hear.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, yeah, that's all you want.

[Trey Kirby]

Name an outcast song you would want to hear.

[Tass]

And he'd rip it and half of it. Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Sleepy Brown.

[Trey Kirby]

He was there.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, of course.

[Trey Kirby]

He was awake.

[Tass]

Bombing over bang.

[Trey Kirby]

These guys are lying all the time, huh? Big Boy's a small man. And Sleepy Brown, I've never seen him asleep.

[J. Skeets]

Was he quite energetic?

[Trey Kirby]

It was low key. Low key Brown. Yeah. They did do Bombs Over Baghdad. Oh, okay.

[J. Skeets]

Nice. Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

You got shaken kryptonite. Of course.

[J. Skeets]

What was the biggest pop, would you say, for a Big Boy song? Or probably kryptonite. Yeah, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

You know, NDA, everybody's doing their.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, sure, sure, man.

[Trey Kirby]

I was doing it teaching my kids. Yeah, you need to know how to do this, dad. You weren't even born in Atlanta. I was like, you're right. But you were. And you need to learn the ways of the people.

[Tass]

Like just. Just this. You need to learn how to do this.

[Trey Kirby]

It's simple. For the rest of your life.

[J. Skeets]

Good. St. Big Boy. Still got it. Well, speaking of Big Boy, he was doing this concert to, I guess, sort of kick off the festivities for the World cup here in Atlanta. Having some games, hosting some games. Later on this podcast, we're drafting our 20, 26 World cup teams, who we're rooting for. We're not drafting all 48 teams. Don't worry about that. We'll do like, top three each. We'll move with some pace and our dumb reasons why we're backing whatever nations we are. Like, you don't have Greece, unfortunately, in this thing.

[Tass]

No, no, I don't. I don't. But while we're doing it, I'll be buying tickets to go see Shakira here in, in Atlanta. Just hilarious how everybody just, you know, they just drop around every city that's got games on. I'll just do a show here. Let's do a show. Shakira's got two here. So we can pick a d. Pick a date.

[Trey Kirby]

I listened to her song yesterday. Die, Die.

[Tass]

Yeah, yeah, with Burna Boy. It's a hit.

[Trey Kirby]

Catchy. It's catchy.

[J. Skeets]

This is the World cup official song.

[Trey Kirby]

Somehow they have like a full record that you can listen to on Apple Music or surely Spotify as well. Like 15 songs. But I think, I think Die Die is the one.

[Tass]

That is the one. No doubt.

[J. Skeets]

This is like the fourth World Cup Shakira has been involved in. Like had a major song.

[Tass]

She's the one.

[J. Skeets]

Okay, good for her.

[Tass]

Also.

[J. Skeets]

Later, random, but we're going to look at some old basketball cards. Our guy KD sent in and we've got rapid fire fun. But first, a mini game 5 finals preview here. Before we get into the questions, the last two minute report dropped yesterday had some interesting little nuggets in it. First things first, OG's block on De' Aaron Fox. And that fast break layup attempt at the end with 12 seconds to go. Legal play, baby. They said no foul on the play. Officials got it right. You know, boneheaded decision there from Fox, but they said he didn't foul them, so there was that. But they did identify two errors. First, with about a minute 30 remaining in the game, spurs up one. Wemby should have been called or cited for a defensive three second violation. Okay, I believe the Knicks score on that possession where he should have been called for the defensive 3 second violation. So I don't maybe comes out in the wash a little bit. And secondly, and this one's the more important one, I think with roughly a minute to go, Castle was whistled for stepping out of bounds on a drive. Spurs were in the bonus. The report ruled the call incorrect and said Josh Hart had impeded Castle's path. But this was something we brought up after game four of the recap pod. I was like, they never really showed us a good replay of Castle stepping out of bounds. The L2M says he didn't. John Starks just did a good job of pointing at the baseline, yelling at the officials. And it probably should have been called a foul on Josh Hart and maybe would have put. Would have put Castle to the line for free tonight. Look, that's a big, big play.

[Tass]

Yeah. And a fan can sell you sometimes. The fan being John Starks, because I know you came into the show saying, did he step out of bed?

[J. Skeets]

I wasn't sure for sure.

[Tass]

Felt like it. Listen, we need to see replays. You mentioned the O.J. anunoby block of Dear and Fox. The photo that was going around yesterday was the hand hitting Deer and Fox's arm. So was it a foul? Good to see the last two minute reports that he got bald before hitting his arm. But it'd be nice to see a replay.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, show us a replay.

[Tass]

That's all we want to see.

[J. Skeets]

They were, they're more. They. They did get a little more caught up, I thought, in that broadcast, in the comeback of game four, abc of just showing us celebrities. Oh, there was many other times where we probably could have seen some replays, but it was always like, let's go to John McEnroe. Let's go to Taylor Swift. Like, all right, we know they're there. We know they're having a blast.

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[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tass]

There was literally a timeout after that. So it's not like a one. Yeah. You didn't have a chance, really. Just show it sometime. There's a chance to show us that block, which was a nice block. And I was. I was buying into that photo that was being shared around.

[Trey Kirby]

Looks bad. Well, you watched the game, though.

[Tass]

Oh. While watching the game, you could see somehow Fox's arm did get stopped. You could see from the live angle something happened to impede him. Well, so I thought, okay, there's some contact there.

[J. Skeets]

Those photos are just so deceiving, though. Those still grabs because it's like, obviously he blocked him and then his arm goes through and hits him. But that's legal.

[Tass]

Hey, John Stark sold you. I'm pointing at the light.

[J. Skeets]

I was the only one saying, I don't think he stepped out of bounds. I was on John Starks.

[Trey Kirby]

See, this is why home court advantage matters. A John Starks got them a call. There's no way around it. Him getting out there. That was part of it. And then you can actually see on the last inbounds play for the Spurs, Dylan Harper is, like, surrounded by Knicks fans. Towns is like, come up and get in his way.

[Tass]

That was. That was hilarious.

[Trey Kirby]

Step back and like, get out of here. McEnroe.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tass]

Isn't that the Referee's job.

[Trey Kirby]

David Dinkins.

[Tass]

Referee should have.

[Trey Kirby]

Somebody should have said, stepped up.

[Tass]

He was little. Yeah. The next day, all you're seeing was different angles of town saying, come on in. Come on in. On Dylan Arbor. Which was hilarious. The ref should just say, hey, can you get the. Give the guy two feet on either side.

[J. Skeets]

But if you were standing there and paid $10,000. Well, way more for those seats, then you can say, no, I'll stand right here. Thank you very much. Of course, that would be an interesting. Like, what would happen there. Like, no, I'm not moving.

[Tass]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

What are you gonna do?

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, I think if it really came down to it, the referee is gonna win.

[Tass]

Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. But it was so sad.

[J. Skeets]

Home court advantage.

[Trey Kirby]

This is why I said home court advantage actually mattered.

[Tass]

Those guys were close to him.

[J. Skeets]

The guy in the suit was slick. Like, when you saw a cat, sort of, like, give him the direction. Yeah. He, like, you know, it wasn't like. It wasn't, like, obviously touching Dylan Harper anything, but. Yeah. He encroached in.

[Trey Kirby]

They were so close.

[J. Skeets]

Get right on top of it. Make it more difficult. That's huge as it is. Like, and.

[Tass]

And it was the direction, like, on Harper's left side, the direction he was throwing the ball to the rim, too. Like, he could. You know, he was in his peripheral. He was damn close if he got into his head. But

[J. Skeets]

Mitch Johnson's got to put in a Kelly Olenek or a Biombo or a Plumbly. Plumbly. You could pass. Got to put in one of the big guys to go over one of the other giant big guys. So, Anyway, that's the L2M there for you. Let's get into the actual game five on Saturday night, and we will be here on Sunday morning to recap either the Knicks winning a championship or the spurs extending this thing and getting it back to Madison Square Garden. But what was your biggest takeaway? Trey from the Knicks epic game four comeback there the other night.

[Trey Kirby]

That's history right there. That was my big takeaway. That was easily the biggest win of our lifetime for the Knicks, by far. Nothing really even compares to it. OG Anunoby's tip. That's the biggest Knicks play we've seen in our lifetime. Guaranteed. That's probably the best Finals game in a decade since 2016. Game 7. I guess you could throw in a few that I thought of, like LeBron's 51 in 2018. That's the J.R. smith game. That's up there for sure. Milwaukee, game four, and Milwaukee game six against Phoenix are in the mix. I think Steph's 43 and 10, game four against Boston is in the mix. And then either game one or game four from OKC Indiana next year. But. Or last year. Sorry, but I, you know, I would probably put this Knicks comeback, a 29 point comeback ahead of all of those. You factor in the Knicks being on the verge of winning their first title in 53 years. This will be their signature win. Game four, the ultimate comeback for a team that has been obsessed with comebacks for the entire year, not to mention in the playoffs. So for them to go through the Eastern Conference winning the way they did, coming back against The Cleveland Cavaliers 22 down, like you're thinking that's the best comeback they're going to have. What an incredible thing they pulled off to do it from 29 down, 20 down in the fourth quarter of a game that if they lose that the pressure is so much on the Knicks in 5, 6 and 7 going on the road. That win probably won the Knicks the title. And that's something that's never happened since we've been watching basketball.

[Tass]

It is part of the Knicks or this season, even going back to last season, why they weren't picked to go far in the playoffs just because they're just a recovery type of team that goes down in a game and then comes back and that's who they are. So when somebody's making the documentary, it's not just going to encompass this season, is going to encompass last season too, you know, the build up. And it's well earned because that was the thing going into last year's playoffs. They just don't do it for long enough. They don't do it. And then they did it.

[J. Skeets]

They did. And they got some help from the Spurs. Yeah, it's a huge part of this

[Trey Kirby]

game for it's definitely a. Did the spurs choke or did the Knicks take it? Because like you think a 29 point comeback, you think the team that comes back has to play perfectly. And like we talked about yesterday, they did not play perfectly and the spurs played perfectly terrible. Like everything that could have gone wrong for the spurs in the moment that it went wrong, went wrong.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, yeah. The question, the two questions that pick up hoops last night were, well, who went to bed at halftime? And there were a couple of the guys, hey, this is an older crew to see ratings. And then there was, yeah, was that a comeback, more of a Knicks comeback or more of a Spurs choke job? And I'd have to say in my Informal poll. It was a lot more like that was the spurs with a complete meltdown there? Yeah, yeah. I mean, of course the Knicks hit big shots and big plays and all that and the OG of it all, but there was just an entire half of turning the ball over, looking tight, just settling for threes like it was. It was rough.

[Tass]

Yeah. Yeah. My biggest takeaway was no lead is safe in the NBA and not just this post season, but going forward to the 26, 27 season. Any team that you're watching on a Tuesday or Wednesday night, it can get up to 30 points, literally, and your lead isn't safe. Now, it's not just the three point shots, because in the third quarter, yeah, the spurs took more threes than twos, which is dumb, you know, 12 threes compared to eight twos. But in the fourth quarter, they turned that down. They just took five threes, slowed that baby down. Just five of their 19 shots. They definitely went away from their getting into the paint and moving it out and kicking it and cycling, getting that wheel going. There's no doubt about that. But Wemby didn't settle for threes in that third. In that fourth quarter, all of his shots were two point shots. All of his nine shots, and they're really. In the first three and a half minutes, he took eight shots. He took one jumper later. So in the first three and a half minutes he took most of his shots and last eight and a half minutes just took that one jumper. Maybe he was tired. That's whole. The whole part of. I don't know if it came up at pickup. Was it Mitch Johnson's fault for playing Victor Wembanyama 23 plus minutes in the second half? Luke Cornett and his contract only played 58 seconds in the second. But I think we kind of skipped over Stefan Castle too. He, as much as we talked about the guards giving up the ball and Fox had four and Castle had three turnovers and so did Dylan Harper. Castle just took one shot in the second half. He just. He was also yanked after a couple minutes, just a couple quick minutes in the third quarter when he charged into Jalen Brunson. They said, okay, you got to sit down. And I said after Game 3, when he made those free throws, should you be having sit down interviews in the middle of a series like that? You had big, big free throws. But do you need a sit down interview with Malik Andrews? Hey, listen, he did not play well in game four in the second half. Weird.

[Trey Kirby]

He was their best offensive player.

[J. Skeets]

He was the one guy at least getting to the free throw line.

[Trey Kirby]

He was the only. I mean he didn't take a ton of shots, but it's because he took eight. That's more shooting possessions.

[Tass]

Harper was fine in the second half. Nobody was good in the second half.

[Trey Kirby]

Nobody was good in the second half. And Castle's foul at the beginning of the third quarter was the reason the Knick even went on a run. Because as soon as he subbed out, Brunson started going crazy. So I think the fouls was more of a problem than him not scoring. I would have liked him handling the ball on their last possessions. I would like Harper handling the ball on their last possessions. Pretty much anybody but the guy that Mitch Johnson kept going to.

[J. Skeets]

I also do think Wemby was tired down the stretch. I mean he shot what he missed. He went 1 for 4 at the free throw line in the fourth quarter. So he missed three free throws. We only think about the two that he missed right at the end. But he missed another one and he missed seven of his nine shots in the fourth quarter. He didn't grab a defensive rebound in the fourth quarter. Like you know, some of that's being pulled out and I get all that. But yeah, he was. It was not a good quarter for, for anybody. It wasn't a good half for anybody on the Spurs.

[Trey Kirby]

No. This is Wembley's fault though. He got in Mitchell Robinson's head and that means you are going to end up missing free throws. If you're in his head, that's how

[J. Skeets]

much you want to get into.

[Trey Kirby]

Wait a second now.

[J. Skeets]

I can't shoot jumpers or free throws.

[Trey Kirby]

I'm literally in your head being John Malkovich.

[J. Skeets]

Sure, for sure. Just like even though, yeah, like 76 points in the first half and then they had 30 in the second half. That is a 46 point difference which is tied for the largest such decrease in a playoff game in the shot clock era. So hell of a drop off. But so many self inflicted, you know, issues there for the spurs because like even in the third quarter, Fox two unforced turnovers late in the third quarter. Then there was that one possession where the spurs kept grabbing offensive rebounds, but they just kept chucking threes. Wemby twice in that sort of recycling of the ball coming back to them, just taking quick threes at that.

[Trey Kirby]

They were playing like if we make one more three pointer, the game is over.

[J. Skeets]

I think so too. I think so too. And then they're good shooters in Champagne and Devin Vassell in the fourth quarter they got Good looks. There were a couple great looks and they were just clanking away too. So yeah, you add it all up and that's somehow how the next sum comes. Come back from 29 or 20, I guess in the fourth quarter. My other takeaway, we gave him love, I thought on the recap podcast. Jose Alvarado was awesome in the fourth. Eight points, three assists, two boards. Him and Brunson, that pairing was pretty amazing for the size of those guys. But the fight from them. And they outscored The spurs by 21 points when the two of them were out there. So Jose Alvarado was like the bench hero, OG's the hero. But Alvarado was like a bit of a spark there.

[Tass]

Oh, Brown went to him. Coach Mike Brown went to him in the fourth quarter when he didn't previously. He didn't have a great first half. So that was just the other guy getting the ball in his hands, bailing out Jalen Brunson. That was really essential.

[J. Skeets]

What needs to happen for the spurs to force a Game six here on Saturday night?

[Tass]

I think they gotta blow out the Knicks. They're not good in the final two minutes.

[J. Skeets]

So either blow them out or yeah, ask the NBA to adopt the FIBA 40 minute game or something like that. Cut off the final five minutes or eight minutes of a game. Give yourself a chance.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I saw going around that the spurs have led 153 minutes in this series. The Knicks have led for 35 minutes of four games.

[J. Skeets]

Wow.

[Tass]

Yeah. Yeah. With the few minutes left, they just, even in their win, they barely held onto that game. So as much as we ridicule Fox for having the ball in his hands, I the, the veteranship in general, just being able to handle it, whether it's Castle, whether it's Harper, they haven't been able to handle it. Simple as that. It was one game. Castle made those big two free throws, but they haven't been doing it. And it's got to be a vet that has done it in the playoffs that I underestimated coming into this series. Fox hasn't done it in the playoffs prior to this season. And that's it. That's it. That's what it comes down to. I think they got to spank them and so it's not even a story.

[J. Skeets]

Spanking them is the problem. They just keep giving.

[Tass]

They're giving it back.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, they have a point differential of plus4.47 in the first quarters alone in this series. So they're always up by double digits at the end of the first quarter and then have had some of these big leads throughout the entire game. But yeah, they've all come down to the final minute and they've lost three of them. Yeah, especially two of them for sure that they should have won.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, they gave away two games. So that's my number one adjustment, the dad talking to a teenager. Don't be an idiot. Literally don't do something completely stupid that we're going to be talking about it for the rest of our lives in the final 10 seconds of the game. Because they have two all time brain farts in this series. You usually see one. Yeah, we got the Wemby pass off the back. We got Fox shooting the ball for absolutely no reason. So my key would be don't do that stuff if it gets close because they're there to win. The spurs could easily be ahead in this series. They could be trying to close out in Game 5 at home. Instead, they look young and one of the guys that looked young was the veteran that they brought in. So that's the main thing to me. But like keep Wemby rolling. They went away from the screen action. They went to. Fox was just trying to get baskets. More of the double screens up top. Keep trying to attack Brunson. I thought that was a problem for the Spurs. They were trying to get Brunson into these actions, but OG was doing such a good job of fighting over the screens that Fox is just like, okay, I got to call up another guy. And then there's five seconds left on the shot clock. And that's why there are no good answers for the Spurs. They got to make threes and I think they got to let the boy cook Harper over Fox. To me, let go down with Harper trying because he went down twice already with Fox botching it at the end here. So I think that they, they need to go for Harper and they got to keep going with Wemby. These are your two guys going forward. Let's see what they got.

[J. Skeets]

Good news for spurs fans, I guess teams that are up 3:1 on the road for Game 5, which obviously the Knicks are here going into San Antonio on Saturday night. They're 8 and 9 in that game, you know, so a losing record. So this idea, like toughest thing to do, obviously put to put to bed a good team. And so the spurs, you know, I guess the, the numbers are in their favor at least to get it to game six. Obviously winning the whole thing and coming back and winning three in a row, that's a little different. Only LeBron's Cavs did that in the finals. But yeah, I don't know. My gut does say, like, they've still obviously got some fight in them. They've been close. They just need to end it a lot stronger. Because why wouldn't we have a. I mean, really, why at this point? Why wouldn't we have another competitive game? They're pretty evenly matched and if the Knicks are down, they're always coming back because now they have, of course they have the belief it's okay, we're down 15. That's nothing. Yeah, exactly. And I'm sure that starts to play like, in the, in the minds of the spurs, especially their younger guys maybe too. Or Wemby is like, no lead is safe. Like we're playing awesome. And it's like always going to be in the back of your head. So we'll see. Let's talk Finals mvp. The question is, is OG Anunoby your finals MVP after four games?

[Trey Kirby]

Probably not for me. The guy never misses.

[Tass]

That's.

[Trey Kirby]

That's the important thing with OG Anunoby. It feels like he's shooting 100% this series, but also 80% of his field goals are assisted. He is feasting off of playing around Brunson, around Cat Jalen Brunson's also leading the series in scoring. He's got the highest fourth quarter scoring average in finals history right now. He's been showing up massively when it absolutely matters. So I don't know, I feel like it would be a 54 vote right now, probably in Brunson's favor.

[J. Skeets]

Okay, so tight.

[Tass]

It should be Jalen Brunson. He's the most important player on that team. Let's not do what we did to Steph with Igu Dolla. I mean, he has been the most impl important player in all three wins. Go through the wins in game one, he scored those 30 points, fought back through two injuries, and you know, the last couple minutes there grabbed that offensive rebound, hit that three in the corner. When OGN and Obi struggled those first three quarters, he got it going in the fourth because he was playing off Jalen Brunson. Game number two, the spurs decide. Okay, we got to switch up this defense. That's how good Jalen Brunson was. Doesn't matter that he scored 30 points on 31 shots. We need to take him out so we in turn take everybody else out. It kind of worked. But OG benefited from those doubles. That's how it works. And game four, the OG tip game, obviously it's OG's story.

[J. Skeets]

But three points. Yeah, seven made threes.

[Tass]

But Jalen Bronson got there. He had the previous two shots right before that. And as well as that shot only happens because he's doubled that 74 guy coming out to guard Jalen Brunson way beyond the perimeter allowed OG to go to the rim. And Victor Rambanyama wasn't anywhere by the rim. So it's. It all happens because of Jalen Brunson. I just don't want to see this thing with Jalen Brunson. That happened to Steph. Where it worked out for Steph in that he won four titles. His first three, he didn't get a Finals mvp. It started with Iggy, then you got two Durants. We don't know how many Brunson is going to win. Just give it to Brunson. He is the guy who deserves it by far the most. Everything that OG is really good at, it works through Jalen Brunson. So just give it to him.

[J. Skeets]

We don't know how many. I mean, there's still games to be played here too. I mean, I think if Brunson had an absolute stinker and OG had another 30 point game, then there's probably more votes going to OG if they were to win the title in five. But at this point, Brunson's like, he's getting 30. It's just how efficient is it going to be? But he's getting there because he's obviously not afraid to shoot it or afraid of the moment. Though Game four was his most efficient game. Sort of does get completely overlooked. Yeah, it is. And I don't even think still he played like that. Great, but 12 of 25, 9 of 11 at the line, 36 points for Brunson. His best game in the series. From like tip to buzzer, I think for sure too.

[Tass]

Yeah. And Trey said when Stefan Castle left in the third quarter, he got going. He really got to go in the fourth quarter too. Just how. How comfortable he was finding the space. Yeah, we'll see if Castle can do it one more time because he is the most annoying Brunson defender.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, yeah. Brunson is averaging nearly 30 points per game in the finals. But the NBA on NBA.com I saw it today. They had Brunson fourth in their finals MVP ladder. And I was like, whoa, fourth? I know they had OG one after the game four heroics. Then they had Cat.

[Tass]

Come on, Sean Wemby. Come on, Brunson. I was like, I saw that. I said, no, J.D.

[J. Skeets]

we got the fanduel odds. That's crazy. They still have Brunson as the odds on favorite for the Finals mvp. And then it's OG and then of course it's Wemby third. If the spurs were to pull this off and come back and yeah, I think, I think they got it right right here, right now as we sit after four games. But let's hear from you out there. I mean, look incredible OG stat. He has more made 3 pointers in this finals than Cat and Brunson combined. He's got 15. Those two superstars, they have 14. Oh, Gee's been a good three point shooter like during the regular season, 39%, but doesn't take a lot of them. Like, I mean, Deuce McBride over the regular season was making more three pointers per game than OG so the guys caught fire. And like you said, every corner three that goes up, you're like, that's going in.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, that would be one of my adjustments for the Spurs.

[J. Skeets]

Stay attached.

[Trey Kirby]

Nobody leave this guy if he's hanging out down there in the corner. This is like akin to me, Andrew Wiggins going to another level for the warriors in the 2022 finals where it's like he put it all together for this specific series. It feels like OG has put it all together for this entire playoff run. We talked about it during the regular season. The Knicks looked their best when OG is playing well. Went through some injury problems. They had some down times during the regular season. But he's been healthy after the hamstring thing earlier in the playoffs. And as he's continued to be in a rhythm like he's just the perfect guy and you can see why he's such a problem for San Antonio. San Antonio plays a giant in Wemby. And then everybody else is small and the size of OG at like the 4 position is giving them so many issues on the glass at the rim. Like he just does everything out there. And like when you're looking at the spurs team build, you're like, that's what they need. They need their version of an OG Anunoby kind of guy.

[Tass]

Yeah. And don't be slow getting out to him. Even if like you're supposed to stick on them sometimes. They're just. The rotations were bad in the second half. Just. That guy's shooting really, really well. Five of five from three in the fourth quarter. Right. Was it the second half? Excuse me. Damn. I mean he was awesome. He stepped back and hit some, but he was also too open.

[J. Skeets]

So final part here, Knicks are the 39th team to take a 31 lead in the Finals. Previous 38 teams that this happened only or 37 of them closed the deal. Obviously, LeBron's 31 comeback against the warriors is the only squad to do it. So what's your game 5 prediction? Does this go 6 or is it over on Saturday night?

[Trey Kirby]

For me, it's over. I've been impressed with the way the spurs have bounced back every time during this postseason. For a young team, they show incredible resiliency. But if this is a close game, how can you pick against the Knicks?

[Tass]

Yeah, yeah. Well, the Spurs, I think, win a spanker. They win in a blowout. Because I know we all talk about the emotion coming out of game four. Like, how do you recover from that? I get that. It's also an emotional game for the New York Knicks. They gotta be a little gas coming back from 29. And the spurs having two days off for Wemby to clean off all those eggshells and egg yolks from his shoulders. Now he's ready to go for game five. I think they do it. I think one thing that we just kind of skipped over, you know, we talked about Mitch Johnson and whether or not he played, should have played Luke Garnett more. Mitch Johnson took Stefan Castle off the floor two minutes into that third quarter with only two fouls. He charged into Jalen Bronson. He said, here comes Keldon Johnson. And so they took a ball handler off the floor and they took the best defender on Jalen Brunson. So that was a screw up. And I think in this game five where we might see a great Jalen Brunson game, because I think he's probably got his in his most flow of any game. It's coming from game four. I think Stefan Castle doesn't, doesn't leave that guy.

[J. Skeets]

He probably shouldn't. Didn't Brunson play massive minutes too in game four? I think he played like 44 minutes in the game.

[Tass]

Yeah, he basically matched Wemby in the second half. Like he barely sat. Yes.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

So you're just saying, I mean, Mitch Johnson has to. Yeah, he's got to lean on his, his guys here for heavy, heavy minutes.

[Tass]

I know, I know the. Hey, he played Wemby too many minutes in the second half. Sure, he was obviously guest, but Stefan Castle has to play more too.

[J. Skeets]

I'm with you test. I'm going spurs on Saturday night. You know, I, I look, I thought they were dead after they lost that pivotal game five against the Thunder. I didn't think they'd at least win two in a row against okc, even though they were shorthanded. But they did prove me wrong. Like, holy crap. That's pretty impressive. And I think they got a little fight in them here to get it back to Madison Square Garden. So we'll see. Yeah, we will be here, like I said, Sunday morning to break it all down. Take a break. And when we come back, we're switching it up. We're switching out basketballs for soccer balls.

[Trey Kirby]

Great.

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[Trey Kirby]

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[Tass]

I think a shot on the goal.

[Trey Kirby]

There's a shot on goal.

[Tass]

I think a shot on goal is just aimed at the goal. It doesn't even have to be right on net. I think.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, I know.

[Trey Kirby]

What if you kick it over the net?

[Tass]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think.

[Trey Kirby]

Is that a shot on goal? To me, it is.

[Tass]

I think it's.

[Trey Kirby]

It is, but I don't know if it is.

[J. Skeets]

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[Tass]

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[J. Skeets]

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[J. Skeets]

Okay, so you're saying if I kick it. And let's say it goes five feet wide to the left, but I had in their minds a decent look at it. They think you think that's a shot

[Tass]

on goal if you're. It might be if you're attempting to shoot. My only read is not from watching soccer and being a soccer fan. It's just from playing FIFA. And every game that I've played, it feels like when I look at the stats come up at half, like eight. I didn't have eight shots on goal.

[J. Skeets]

I kicked it way over the next seven of those times.

[Tass]

I didn't. I didn't. I didn't hit the goalie or score. I think it does count.

[J. Skeets]

All right.

[Tass]

I could be wrong.

[J. Skeets]

We're gonna find out here over the next month.

[Trey Kirby]

Exciting.

[J. Skeets]

Okay, as promised. I guess we promised this. Let's talk about the beautiful game because we, the four of us, are gonna draft three teams in the World cup each that we want to be cheering for, for whatever reason, whoever you're supporting. And I have a trivia question to decide who gets the number one pick. That's what we do here. So, J.D. you're included here. I don't need it. Trey, Tas, you guys are going to have a little battle here with a fun World cup trivia question. We'll take turns. I'll just start with Tas. I am looking for the eight countries that have won the Men's World Cup. Can you name them all? Only eight nations.

[Trey Kirby]

Wow.

[J. Skeets]

That's it. In the history of the World Cup.

[Trey Kirby]

Wow.

[J. Skeets]

So, Tas, get us started.

[Tass]

Brazil.

[J. Skeets]

Correct. They lead the way with five.

[Trey Kirby]

France.

[J. Skeets]

France has two off the board. J.D. back to you. Or two to you.

[JD]

I'm gonna say I'm getting my hand poised over the wrong.

[J. Skeets]

Don't do that. Just give me a nation that's won the World Cup. Come on. Portugal. No. Okay, Come on.

[Tass]

They lost the Euro cup, and that's all that matters. All right?

[J. Skeets]

So hold on, hold on. You're out now. We battle for you guys. So back to you, Tess.

[Tass]

We'll go to Germany.

[J. Skeets]

Okay. I'm taking Germany.

[Tass]

And West Germany is allowed.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. So that's. They have four, by the way, so good job. Spain got one, Tas.

[Tass]

Yeah. Here's what it comes down to. So we got. How many countries?

[J. Skeets]

Four left. Four left.

[Tass]

Argentina. Did they squeeze one?

[Trey Kirby]

They've got three, man. They got three.

[Tass]

I can't believe you didn't say. I thought they only got the. The messy one.

[J. Skeets]

But are you more of a Ronaldo fan, JD Than a messy fan? I guess so, subconsciously. Back to you, sir.

[Trey Kirby]

I'm in my Baggio, like Roberto. Italy.

[J. Skeets]

That's right. They got four. Now it gets tough. Now it gets tough. There's two nations left. One has won twice. One, one, once. I think you guys can get this.

[Trey Kirby]

I actually do, too.

[Tass]

Yeah. Okay. This is the decision part. I mean, it doesn't matter. Spain.

[J. Skeets]

Spain's been said.

[Tass]

England.

[J. Skeets]

Okay. Okay. Are you okay giving that to him? He said.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, 1966. Is that the last England.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, he said it's okay. England, 1966. Yeah. They're waiting to bring it home. That's what they keep saying, right, Trey? There's one left.

[Trey Kirby]

Netherlands.

[J. Skeets]

No, incorrect. I think they made the finals. Probably.

[Trey Kirby]

They probably did.

[J. Skeets]

No, this is an old one. That's why I think they won. A long time ago. They won twice. South American.

[Tass]

Uruguay.

[J. Skeets]

Correct. Yeah.

[Tass]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

Okay. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Tass]

Yeah, I remember that. That's an ancient.

[J. Skeets]

It's ancient. I think it's got to be like the 30s or something.

[Trey Kirby]

I can't believe Johan Cruyff and the boys.

[J. Skeets]

I got a bonus question in case there was a tie, so I'm going to ask the three of you, if you want. Anyway, how many goals were scored in the 2022 FIFA World cup total? Goals. Let there be goals, boys.

[Trey Kirby]

A lot.

[Tass]

Okay, so looking for a number this year. There's over 100 games.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, yeah. So, yeah.

[Tass]

So last year I'm trying. That's. I'm just going by numbers.

[J. Skeets]

Okay, well, it was in 2022, there was. You're right. 32 teams, right?

[Trey Kirby]

Is that right?

[Tass]

80. 88 goals is that way low?

[J. Skeets]

Okay, okay.

[Trey Kirby]

123.

[Tass]

I take that back.

[JD]

Give me 123.

[Trey Kirby]

That's what I said.

[J. Skeets]

So you said 123 guys listen to each other.

[JD]

I'm barely paying attention.

[J. Skeets]

172 goals. Okay, okay.

[Tass]

Yeah. It's only an average of two goals.

[J. Skeets]

Just to make this easy, you have the number one pick. You're going second. Great. JD Third. And I'll go fourth. Here we go.

[Trey Kirby]

We want to cheer for.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

That's it.

[Trey Kirby]

This changes my board completely.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, you thought it was. Who's going to win the thing.

[Trey Kirby]

I don't know what I thought. I didn't have a perfect idea.

[J. Skeets]

Okay, well, then just go wherever your heart takes you. But you have the number one pick.

[Tass]

Yeah. I've got to take Canada. You got to the roots. I absolutely have to. And I'm excited, actually, about the beaver park that they've launched for the World Cup. I've always been looking for my second beaver. I've only seen one beaver in my life.

[J. Skeets]

Go on.

[Tass]

And as a Canadian, that just doesn't feel right. So. So the.

[JD]

The random part, seeing the slides that Trey's gonna.

[Tass]

There's the random part.

[J. Skeets]

It's just whether Trey's going to include your wife on said slide, I guess. But I can't wait to find.

[JD]

It's so wholesome. Tess.

[J. Skeets]

I love it.

[Trey Kirby]

I just.

[Tass]

No, hold on. I didn't say anything about my wife. What on. Oh, you're looking for your second theater, at least. Oh, that.

[Trey Kirby]

That's why.

[Tass]

No, this is literally. This is way more cool. Close to my heart than anything to do with my wife. I've literally seen. I've literally seen one beaver in my life. How many beavers have you seen in your life? As a Canadian who's looked at a. Over and over and over again, I see. I've seen so many. An actual beaver in the wild.

[J. Skeets]

Right, right, right.

[Tass]

How many beavers have you seen?

[Trey Kirby]

Jeez.

[Tass]

In the wild. In the wild. That's all I care about.

[JD]

That's all I care about.

[J. Skeets]

Not.

[Tass]

Not a coin, exactly. I've seen one, and it's been in the usa, and that just doesn't.

[J. Skeets]

Where'd you see it? Where'd you see it?

[Tass]

Guess. Guess where. Maybe you'll never guess where.

[J. Skeets]

Well, when you kayak. Where you kayak.

[Tass]

Yeah, I know. It's weird. There's lots down here.

[Trey Kirby]

But I have Sweetwater Creek in New

[Tass]

Jersey for some reason.

[JD]

That makes sense.

[J. Skeets]

That's where your wife's from.

[Tass]

Yeah. There's the wife connection. Finally, a wife connection. Have you seen the park? The beaver park? Because that's actually. It's actually your favorite. It's Actually, your favorite fountain in Canada.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, is that the dog park? Exactly.

[Tass]

With all the dogs. Yeah, that random dog park. They've planted 51 beavers in that park. Let's circle around back to why this is important.

[J. Skeets]

Why 51?

[Tass]

I don't know. Oh, but there's 51. You go searching for beavers. Unfortunately, they're not real beavers. I want to see a real beaver. Yeah, it's called the great beaver quest. 51 beavers.

[J. Skeets]

But Canada. You're taking Canada?

[Tass]

Why wouldn't you? I have to. I have to stick to my roots. There's no Greece.

[J. Skeets]

Canada is looking for their first World cup win.

[Trey Kirby]

That's crazy.

[J. Skeets]

In this World cup today they could beat Bosnia. I don't want jinx anything. They've never won a game.

[Tass]

Never won a game.

[J. Skeets]

They've only been in it twice. But it's happening. It's happening. And they're in Toronto today, so that's

[Tass]

going to be huge. And the group with Bosnia, Qatar and Switzerland, it's doable, man. It's doable.

[J. Skeets]

It's doable. We get out. I don't want to get ahead of ourselves because we've never won a game. But that's why.

[Tass]

That's why you put 48 teams in the World cup, because your team could advance.

[J. Skeets]

That's right.

[Tass]

You know, True. Yeah, that's right.

[J. Skeets]

It's gonna be a big game. At 3 o' clock today in Toronto, we still got.

[Trey Kirby]

What? Del Rosario, that was a guy right

[Tass]

back when we lived there.

[Trey Kirby]

I don't know. Soccer player. Was he 15 when he was playing?

[JD]

It happens.

[Tass]

It's a good question. I don't know.

[J. Skeets]

All right, Canada is off the board. We go to Trey Kirby.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, I'm taking the U.S. yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

I was gonna try and get him in maybe the third round round, but I gotta take him now, cuz. Would you guys take the United States, JD Or Skeets?

[J. Skeets]

I would, yeah. To cheer for. But it. It wouldn't be. They wouldn't be my first pick.

[Tass]

No.

[J. Skeets]

You probably could have let him slide around.

[Tass]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

But couldn't risk it. No.

[Tass]

I had had them high on the list. Not just because I live here, but also they're in the group with Turkey and the Greeks don't like Turks, so, you know. But anyways, they should advance.

[Trey Kirby]

They have a great chance of advancing. Some analytics I saw say like an 82% chance. It's basically if you beat Uruguay tonight. So they're playing Paraguay. They're playing Paraguay, Yeah. If you beat them, they're going to the elimination round.

[J. Skeets]

That's what they say with these groups. Like, you win one game, you're like, basically through.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, you got to try and win. But I look forward to learning the names of all these young fellows.

[J. Skeets]

A lot of your guys are in the prime. A lot of you guys in the prime.

[Trey Kirby]

He's been around dest. There's a guy named Jedi. I like that.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. Jedi Rock trustee, you said on defense.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. It turns out he sucks, though.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, no.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, he's very low ranked on the Team USA personnel list, but whatever. It's not like we had good players. I saw ESPN ranked the top 50 players. All I did was control. F for States. Nothing. Nothing there. Underdog mentality.

[J. Skeets]

That's right. Yeah, that's right. Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Wow.

[J. Skeets]

What a shock. Canada. Us. Go, go. Early in this.

[Tass]

Oh, Miles Robinson. Miles Robinson. Our friend, Keith Robinson. Yeah, I'm cheering for him.

[Trey Kirby]

They got a lot of guys that are coming off injury. Based on the two articles I've read, like, it seemed like every third player for us was coming off an Achilles or an ACL or something, so that doesn't seem great.

[J. Skeets]

No. Gotta win a few, though, playing on their home pitch here.

[Tass]

That's right.

[J. Skeets]

Obviously an electric crowd here tonight. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

9 o', clock, 9 p. Yep.

[J. Skeets]

J.D. your first pick here?

[JD]

Well, I mean, my first pick was Canada, obviously. Look, this place is near and dear in my heart, and also I want to win this thing. Let's win the World Cup.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tass]

Nice.

[JD]

I'm going very, very high in the FanDuel rankings. This country is plus 470 to win the whole thing. Headed up by my man Mbappe, which is very fun to say. I'm going France.

[J. Skeets]

Nice pick.

[Trey Kirby]

Nice, baby.

[Tass]

Great pick.

[J. Skeets]

And you love France, too.

[JD]

I love France, yeah. Last time I was there, I was with you.

[J. Skeets]

That's right.

[JD]

Time of our lives, a whirlwind bromance.

[Trey Kirby]

That's right.

[J. Skeets]

Berets were on. That's true for sure. Okay. My first pick here. All right. I'm going with Croatia as my first pick. Here's why. Simple reason why. The World cup final is set for July 19th. When do I arrive with my wife in Croatia for a little vacation time? I arrive on July 18th in Dubrovnik. That would be awesome.

[Trey Kirby]

That would be awesome.

[J. Skeets]

To arrive to a country like Croatia and have them in the World cup the next day, that would be cinema. So I'm really rooting for them now. Croatia's like. Despite being a very small country, like, they. They've had pretty good Performances at the World cup. They made. They. They went to the final once. A couple third place finishes. Now, I don't know about the Croatian team this year. Maybe they've fallen off a little bit, but I'm hoping to see them make a crazy run again to get. To get into that World cup final.

[Tass]

Yeah. I was cheering for you. Looking on this list, I definitely had them up there just. Just to cheer for you. They're in a group with England, Ghana and Panama.

[J. Skeets]

So it sounds tough.

[Tass]

Sounds tough, yeah.

[J. Skeets]

But I have no idea.

[Tass]

I don't know.

[J. Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

I got some of the best. Oh, you like the checkerboards?

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, checkerboards. Okay. Second round test. Now. Now it gets crazy. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Tass]

This is the tough part, huh? I'll take Argentina.

[JD]

Okay.

[Tass]

I know they're getting through the next round, not just because they're Argentina, but then you look at their group and you see Algeria, Austria and Jordan. They're getting through. So I'll pay attention to the other teams in the group stage, and then I can pay attention to them as they move on.

[J. Skeets]

There's a possibility. I heard that Argentina could play Portugal. That would be Messi versus Ronaldo. Never happened in the World Cup. It could happen in. In, obviously, the bracket stage. I think the game would be played in Kansas City, of all places.

[Tass]

Interesting.

[J. Skeets]

And things have to happen, of course, because it's all, like, where you, like, win your group or where you are in your group anyway. Getting ahead of myself. But that'd be cool if that happened.

[Tass]

Yes, it would be cool. Now, Portugal, they're playing in Miami, right? They're playing Columbia and Miami. I guess that's their. Their group stage.

[J. Skeets]

Okay.

[Tass]

It's wild to start, but then they go to Kansas City, I guess. Yeah, possibly.

[J. Skeets]

I start bouncing around. All right, Argentina gone. Where are you going?

[Trey Kirby]

Spain.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, good team. Good team.

[Trey Kirby]

The favorites, I think, at least from some places. I know they've got. What's his name? Yamin Lamal.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Coming off a hamstring injury. Pedri, I guess. Guy's supposed to be a great passer. I do like Spanish national football teams, though. When did they win the World Cup? 2012, I think. So is that when that was? They played that style where, like, they pass it all the time. Iniesta. Love that guy. Love a guy that's balding, who's good at sports. So he was good.

[J. Skeets]

Spain won in 2010 in South Africa.

[Tass]

There we go.

[Trey Kirby]

2010.

[J. Skeets]

And they beat the Netherlands 10 in the final.

[Trey Kirby]

Wesley Schneider, tough stuff.

[J. Skeets]

Extra time, goal There you go.

[Trey Kirby]

And I think Spain's playing here, right? They're in the Atlanta.

[J. Skeets]

They are. They are.

[Tass]

They're going to kick some ass here. They're going to be good.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. They take them.

[Tass]

Yeah. Oh, God. I'm going to be watching them, too. I don't cook, but I've been making pan con tomate recently. And that is.

[Trey Kirby]

That is the best thing, grinding up.

[Tass]

Just grind. Just grinding tomatoes. Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

J.D. your pick here. Okay.

[JD]

Well, I'm. I'm staying high with the favorites here. England. Give me.

[J. Skeets]

Give me a mile.

[JD]

England.

[Tass]

You gotta do it. You gotta do it.

[JD]

That's the top three gone. Spain, France and England.

[J. Skeets]

Those are the few. England's that high.

[JD]

England plus 650 according.

[J. Skeets]

Okay. Bring it home.

[Trey Kirby]

Harry Kane. Good name for a wiener. It's my Harry Kane.

[JD]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Actually, I agree.

[JD]

Do you think Harry Kane's gonna be in the Beaver park?

[Tass]

Can we keep them separate? Can't we keep our canes and our beavers separate?

[Trey Kirby]

Do you laugh every time you see the commercial for Beaver Toyota? Incoming. Because I do, pretty much.

[Tass]

I'm not.

[J. Skeets]

I know which one you're talking about. It's all alive down here for that.

[Tass]

I don't think I've ever seen that.

[J. Skeets]

All right, my. My second pick here in the second round. Well, I saw them play last night. I came away impressed. They got down one nil, scored two goals. I love their kits. I'm taking South Korea. They're not gonna win, but I saw some fans of theirs in Mexico doing tequila shots before the game. I was like, yeah, that's the spirit of the World Cup.

[Tass]

Sure.

[J. Skeets]

And again, they came back, they had a beautiful goal. It had like. They had, like, 25 touches or something to lead to that one goal. So, yeah, South Korea, bit of a wild card pick here, but I do love. They have purple away kits.

[Tass]

Cool.

[J. Skeets]

They're like, I don't know, like a flower. Flower type thing. I think they look awesome. All right, I got Croatia and South Korea. Final round.

[Tass]

I'm taking Mexico.

[J. Skeets]

Also. Also won yesterday.

[Tass]

Also won it.

[J. Skeets]

A lot of red cards at the end.

[JD]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Three red cards in the game.

[Tass]

One game. Yeah, I saw that.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Tass]

One of those red cards, though, was bogus.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[JD]

Completely ridiculous.

[Trey Kirby]

Red.

[Tass]

J.D. you're watching it.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[JD]

Watch the last 10 minutes of the game. I have World cup fever. I haven't caught it yet, but, you know, I'm feeling the tickle in my throat.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, yeah. Oh. I think once Canada and America gets underway today, I think you're gonna have it but yeah. Three red cards in one game. And they said there were four total red cards in the last World cup alone. Wow. We had three in the opening game, which is crazy. Well, yeah, but Mexico.

[Tass]

Yeah, I picked Mexico. I heard you JD Say ah, and you wanted it. But then he's told me, just watch 10 minutes of the game. So I don't feel as bad now. But to me, it's already bringing me and my community together. I see somebody with Mexico shirt on yesterday. I said, hey, congrats on the way.

[J. Skeets]

So did I. I did, too.

[Tass]

Sports, bringing people together.

[J. Skeets]

I did as well. I gave a little honk of the horse. A good win. They're like, yeah. I was stuck in traffic going to basketball.

[Tass]

Beautiful.

[J. Skeets]

A couple. Nice. I like their kids, too.

[Tass]

Those kids are awesome. That's why Jersey, the Aztec roots. Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

All right. Mexico, you got two North American squads.

[Tass]

I do.

[J. Skeets]

You got the hat and the boot. The hat and the boot. All right, Trey, your final pick. World cup fever.

[Trey Kirby]

Sure. Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

A lot of teams left. Yeah, there is a whole lot of teams left.

[Trey Kirby]

Look, there's a few teams I'm drawn to.

[J. Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

The Netherlands. I love orange jersey.

[J. Skeets]

So do I. So do I. Morocco.

[Tass]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Fun to say.

[Tass]

Ooh.

[J. Skeets]

They play Brazil tomorrow.

[Trey Kirby]

They play Brazil. And that's actually where I'm going. I'm going with Brazil.

[J. Skeets]

Okay.

[JD]

Good call.

[Trey Kirby]

Traditional powerhouse. I don't think they have Fred anymore, but I do like a guy named Fred. They got Vinnie or Vinnie. I don't know. But I think they are maybe not as well respected as the Brazilian teams have been in the past.

[J. Skeets]

True. But they have the best, I believe, manager in the world. That guy is the Italian guy. It's always in his awesome three piece. Su. I think he's won, like, everywhere. Sure, Everywhere.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

I don't even know his name.

[Tass]

It's a tight fit suit, right?

[J. Skeets]

I think so. I mean, he's a well dressed Italian.

[Tass]

He's a well dressed.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tass]

And they play Morocco, so you'll be excited for that.

[Trey Kirby]

Sounds like a good game. Ancelotti. Is that the guy?

[J. Skeets]

That's it. That's it. He's the first, I believe, foreigner to coach Brazil ever, too. So it's a great deal that he is awesome, I think. Okay. Brazil, that's always a powerhouse. What did I say? I said they. They lead the way with five. They have five World cup wins.

[Trey Kirby]

Sure.

[J. Skeets]

So can they make it six?

[Trey Kirby]

Ronaldinho, my all time favorite is he.

[Tass]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Looks so cool.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, he did like he had.

[Trey Kirby]

He did more flair than anyone?

[J. Skeets]

J.D. your final pick.

[JD]

I don't know anything about this team. I have not seen their kit. I don't know who's playing. It's just a place I'd like to go one day. Japan.

[J. Skeets]

Okay. Okay, okay.

[JD]

They're actually not.

[J. Skeets]

I think they're okay.

[JD]

I think a plus 3500. So, yeah, they got his shot.

[J. Skeets]

We got some crazy small nations in this World Cup. Like, very, very tiny nations. All right, my final pick here to wrap this up. Well, I'm with you, tk. I always have a place in my heart for the Netherlands. The freaky deaky Dutch sort of weirdos. And I love them and they love their soccer and they're pretty good. So I don't know if they're good this year, but I do like their orange as well. Give me the Netherlands. Who did you say they're in a bracket with? I thought you were.

[Tass]

Said it was like. No, I didn't have the Netherlands.

[J. Skeets]

Okay, okay. So go over your team. So you got here.

[Tass]

I've got my friends in Canada, Argentina, and Mexico.

[J. Skeets]

Okay, nice for me.

[Trey Kirby]

I got Spain, Brazil, and the United States of America.

[J. Skeets]

Damn.

[JD]

JD who did I pick again? France.

[Trey Kirby]

Yep.

[JD]

Japan and what was the middle?

[Tass]

Argentina, England.

[JD]

100 years war in my squad over here. France, England and Japan.

[J. Skeets]

And I have Croatia, South Korea and the Netherlands. I feel like, yeah, if we were actually picking winners here, I don't think it's my team. But you tell us. And who are you back in. Down in the comments. World cup is underway. I want to give Roger Sherman and his sports newsletter a shout out to follow it during the World Cup. One of the funniest writers on the planet, and he gives you a free newsletter. I got a link in the show notes. Just trust me on this one. It's, I think like every second day or something like that, he'll drop a very funny World cup related newsletter. It's the best way to follow the Winter Olympics. Roger's writing. Do it for the World Cup. You will not be upset by that decision. I'll do it right now. Do it. I'm telling you, it's free. It's free. Just shows up. Subscribed. There you go.

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[J. Skeets]

rapid fire because it's the drop. JD you got the questions, we got the answers.

[JD]

Okay guys, let me turn that down a bit. Ben Stiller was courtside during game three at msg filming a lot on his phone. And I mean a lot. And it was in landscape mode. No mess, love no less. Turns out he's making a documentary. Guys, what's the last documentary you watched?

[J. Skeets]

Skeets, I'm just gonna give you two. The last sports one was Untold Jailblazers. I did watch that somewhat recently. It's okay, it's okay. You know, it's a nice fun trip down memory lane for sure. But the last official documentary was the Myrtle the Murder of Rachel Nicholl. It's on Netflix. You know, that's not fun. They give it away in the title of the documentary. But she gets killed. Yeah. So you know, it's like my wife and I watch a lot of these crime documentaries. It's pretty crazy story. It's a woman that was killed in broad daylight in like a park in London. And then it's a story in front. In front of her toddler, which is the crazy part to this. And this idea of like they're trying to get this information out of like a two year old kid, like what did the killer look like? It's wild. Yeah, it's pretty messed up. So yeah, not a fun answer. But that's the last doc I watched.

[Tass]

It sounds like a good watch.

[J. Skeets]

It is a pretty good doc. It's pretty well done.

[Tass]

I'll be honest, totally transparent. My last one, I mentioned it on the show a couple months ago, so. So it's not the most exciting answer, but I watched Pole to poll on Amazon where Will Smith was at the South Pole. He was at the Amazon where they were milking spiders trying to find. The term is milking spiders trying to find the remedy for cancer. It was awesome. That part was awesome. But yeah, it was multiple.

[Trey Kirby]

How do you milk a spider?

[Tass]

You're asking me? Somehow, Somehow they literally. They. It was. Was cool. Cuz they do go underground. They lit. It's difficult to film way below sea level. They are down what like a thousand meters? Is that, that sounds crazy. It sounds crazy. Saying it. Maybe it's a thousand feet. That sounds like more reality. But anyways. They literally put a spider on the table and they're able to somehow excrete everything they've got to excrete. And that's what they call it. They call it milk. A spider.

[J. Skeets]

So that is doing it.

[Tass]

He. He participates and he's grossed out. He's grossed the hell out by the whole thing. And spiders in general. There's spiders all over them, like, all over the area.

[J. Skeets]

I won't be watching that.

[Tass]

Yeah. Yeah. I would say the. The filming doesn't make you feel weirded out and scared because it's hard to film spiders. It's hard. It's hard to just capture spiders on camera. But it was worth it. It was worth the pole. It was worth it.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tass]

It's a casual. It's a casual watch. Unlike. Unlike the Rachel Nichols story there.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. Yeah. Not as fun.

[JD]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

What do you got?

[Trey Kirby]

For me? It's the Last Waltz, which is like.

[Tass]

Oh, wow.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. The band performing their last concert is a concert film, a documentary.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[JD]

I think I feel like that one kind of is.

[Trey Kirby]

It is. Yeah. I agree. But you could say it's like sideways to a documentary nonetheless. This is awesome. This is like. You could watch it every Thanksgiving, I think is a common thing that people do because I think they played the actual concert on Thanksgiving. But it's so good. Guest performances from, like, who? Neil Young, Neil Diamond. Van Morrison comes in and kills it. Bob Dylan is there. It's so good. From the very first song.

[J. Skeets]

What platform is this?

[Trey Kirby]

I think it was on HBO when I watched it. But who knows? You know, the streaming document or these libraries change all the time.

[Tass]

They do, totally.

[JD]

Mine was the last Profit on. On Netflix.

[J. Skeets]

I watched that.

[JD]

That's crazy, man.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[JD]

Anyway, Carter Bryant shared a list of things he and his teammates do in their downtime. Painting board games, visiting the world's quietest room. Quote, a bunch of dumb stuff is how he described what he said. That's what he said. Guys, what's your favorite dumb thing to do?

[J. Skeets]

Skeets, When I'm driving from my home to the classic factory, the dumb thing I like to do is I really get infatuated. And look at utility poles here in Atlanta that are falling over. And, like.

[JD]

No. Sharded of those.

[J. Skeets]

It's unbelievable. And I just, like. I go, yeah, we gotta fix that. Like, what are we doing?

[Trey Kirby]

It's crazy.

[J. Skeets]

How many are, like, broken or, like. Yeah, completely sideways. And, like, you're like, how is this Operating like this. Anyway, that's all I'm doing while I'm driving, looking around at utility poles.

[Trey Kirby]

Stay safe out there.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Tass]

I don't like that.

[J. Skeets]

I don't like that you can't stop doing it once you notice them, too. Too. Every corner I come to, I'm crazy. That one's straight. That one's straight.

[Tass]

Oh, that one's not gonna have to

[J. Skeets]

call the city on that one.

[Trey Kirby]

I'll get right on it.

[J. Skeets]

So that's dumb.

[JD]

Pretty dumb test.

[Tass]

Mine's way dumber.

[J. Skeets]

Dumber than that? Okay, let's see.

[Trey Kirby]

Easy.

[J. Skeets]

Okay.

[Tass]

Way dumber than that. Knee farts.

[J. Skeets]

Okay.

[Tass]

I'm just. So.

[J. Skeets]

You win.

[Tass]

I'm so good. I'm good. I'm good at it. I've always been good at it.

[J. Skeets]

It.

[Tass]

It's fun to do.

[J. Skeets]

Come on.

[Tass]

I can't. I would do it right now, but I love our studio, but, I mean, I got to be on my back to really do it.

[J. Skeets]

Wow.

[JD]

Yeah.

[Tass]

It's a really letter rip. Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

So you get on your back, put your knee up, and then go.

[Tass]

Yeah, both. Both. It's not. I'm not. I'm generated, my man. Be nitrous. I can do both. Yeah. Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Knee farts.

[JD]

Is this. Is this like a stretching activity at the gym kind of thing, or is this on your. The floor of your house kind of thing?

[Tass]

Yeah, no, I wouldn't do it at the. I wouldn't do it at the gym. You crazy.

[JD]

Well, I don't know.

[Tass]

Farts for everyone. Knee farts for everyone.

[JD]

Ever been to a yoga class? A lot of farting?

[Tass]

Oh, a lot of farting.

[Trey Kirby]

A lot of wind relieving poses.

[Tass]

I could. I could outdo those yoga farts. It's like, I'm like 100aminute. I can do 100aminute, I think.

[J. Skeets]

Wow.

[Trey Kirby]

100aminute. Like, right, left, right, left, right.

[Tass]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.

[Trey Kirby]

Be something to see.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, we'll.

[Tass]

We'll save it for some stupid thing.

[J. Skeets]

Substack. That's a Substack exclusive. Yeah, we got to contact those Guinness World Records. Yeah, that could be a record. Hey, sir, what is the record for knee farts?

[JD]

Try it. What's the dumbest?

[Trey Kirby]

Mine is driving related as well. We got a Hyundai Tucson at the start of 2026, and it became that thing where once you get a car, you see that car everywhere. Tucson in particular is, like, very easy to identify with the. The front grill and light pattern. But once I started seeing all these Tucsons, I just cannot stop pointing them out to everybody. And I got jealous of Jeep drivers. You know, Jeep drivers leave those little ducks for each other. That's why you see a Jeep has a million ducks on their front dash. So now when I see a Tucson, I do the Tucson salute, which is a normal salute, but with two fingers. And you finish with a two. Like to the driver, Tucson, isn't that.

[J. Skeets]

Isn't that fu.

[Trey Kirby]

And is that bad

[Tass]

in Britain?

[Trey Kirby]

I think I ain't ever seen a Tucson in Britain. This is America, and I'm giving the Tucson salute and it's catching on.

[Tass]

Is it?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Well, only amongst people in my car. I don't know if another Tucson has noticed yet, but if you're out there driving Tucson, and I know some of you are, because I see them on the streets a lot here, especially in Atlanta. We got a plant nearby. Give them the Tucson salute. Don't do it in Britain, apparently.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, don't do it. You can do it here.

[JD]

I wouldn't do it during the World cup in case there's a Brit who rented a Tucson. It's like these Americans are very unfriendly.

[J. Skeets]

Well, good answers for that one.

[JD]

Okay, last one. Taylor Swift and two of the Ham sisters sat courtside get for Game 6 in punny Knicks shirts. Stevie Nicks, Nickelback and Nicole Kidman.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. Game four.

[JD]

Game four. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, my bad.

[J. Skeets]

You not only said it wrong, but I also just noticed in the notes it's game three, so we nailed every game over.

[JD]

Okay, game four. Anyway, guys, let's dust off the pun gun. What are some musician inspired spurs puns for? Shirts they could wear to game five in San Antonio. And if you're stuck, I'll also accept a pun on a celebrity who recently has gone through a divorce.

[J. Skeets]

I'm gonna go with the latter, if you don't mind. No, that's stuck on the spurs pun. So I'll go with the celebrity who's recently gone through a divorce. A pun on that. You guys probably heard this, but in February, Lily Allen's Love Boat left the David Harbor.

[JD]

That's great.

[J. Skeets]

I've heard stranger things, but I'm glad she gave him hell. Boy.

[Tass]

Nice.

[J. Skeets]

There you go. There's three puns in one. That's very good.

[Tass]

Very good. I like. I like the idea of putting more words on a shirt because some minors, you know, like, well, that wasn't a shirt.

[J. Skeets]

I was the second part.

[Tass]

I know, but I love a shirt with words front and back, so you have to read the whole thing.

[JD]

All Right, Tessie?

[Tass]

Mine is Manu Jino. Billy Eilish. Yeah, it's a good one. And you could come out to Armani White's Billie Eilish. The song called Billie Eilish. It's a. A remake of Nore that they used Nores nothing. It's a good track to come out to.

[J. Skeets]

Sure.

[Tass]

It's a good one. I got. I can go deep. I. Because I won't steal this one from each. I don't think you use this one. Victor Wembin. Wembin Harper. Ji Dis the finals. And I see I. I did envy the long ones. Just more words because I used one here. Rodrigo comma Olivia. Your life. And play all four quarters and win the game for us. Okay. Please do that for us now. Fill it up. Fill up a shirt. You know, one funny one. One funny one.

[J. Skeets]

It's gonna be tough printing costs, though.

[Tass]

You could do it front, back as

[J. Skeets]

a letter by the word.

[Tass]

Could be tough inside out. Maybe just take off your shirt. This is what it says on the inside.

[J. Skeets]

Printing horse on the inside. People are like, I don't get your shirt. You're like, hold on, hold on. You gotta flip it inside out.

[Tass]

Somebody's gotta do that. Yeah, you're right.

[JD]

You're right. Trey, you got any?

[J. Skeets]

I got a lot. Yeah.

[Tass]

Go for it.

[Trey Kirby]

Bruce Spursstein.

[Tass]

Oh, good one. Good one.

[Trey Kirby]

Tony. Tony San Antonio.

[Tass]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Spurge Overkill.

[JD]

Oh, nice.

[Trey Kirby]

Spravana and Spurl Jam.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, I like that.

[Tass]

Pearl Jam. Front end back.

[JD]

Don't forget the lead singer of Spravana. Spurt, Cocaine Cobain

[Trey Kirby]

and of course, spurs against the machine.

[J. Skeets]

Sure. These are great.

[JD]

Yeah, why not? Did you say Britney Spurs?

[Trey Kirby]

I didn't say Britney's first. That's a good one.

[JD]

Freddy's Spurcury.

[Trey Kirby]

Freddy's Spurcury.

[J. Skeets]

Man, I hope the nuns are wearing these Saturday night.

[JD]

You can also do Splur like. And the Spur like the Cure. It doesn't really.

[J. Skeets]

That one. That was good.

[Tass]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Why is there a thought in front of us?

[JD]

Right?

[Trey Kirby]

These are.

[J. Skeets]

These are not bad. Britney.

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[Trey Kirby]

That's a Matt Bonner specialty.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. You might have that shirt.

[Trey Kirby]

Winnie Del Negro. Sas. Sass Melis.

[JD]

I like that.

[Tass]

Yeah, The Britney spurs one. Very funny. I would hope that that person doesn't run onto the floor and touch Victor Wembanyama like Britney Spears did.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, yeah.

[Tass]

At the summer league.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, yeah.

[Tass]

So nice call. That's what I'm thinking. I'm like, I would want to see that fan run on the court. Although don't do that.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, yeah. But Britney Spurs. That might upset Victor Webanyama. I mean, I don't know the relationship he has with Britney Spears.

[Tass]

I don't think he gives a.

[JD]

No.

[Tass]

Okay, probably not, but. Probably not. I just don't think he. I don't think he remembers. Remember that was. That was his rookie year.

[J. Skeets]

Yes.

[Trey Kirby]

Before he'd even played a summer league.

[Tass]

Exactly. Yeah, exactly. He was literally in his first summer league and Britney Spears went up and grabbed him and his security had to hit.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. They were like, hell are you.

[Tass]

Yeah. Because he didn't psycho. She didn't talk to him.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tass]

Or she didn't set up the whole meeting. She just ran and touched him. So don't do that if you're. Don't, don't.

[J. Skeets]

Don't throw eggs at players. Don't beat up people because they're wearing a jersey from the other team. This is, you know, you shouldn't have to say these things. I guess you do.

[Tass]

No, no.

[J. Skeets]

Pretty simple stuff. All right. That's rapid fire. Somewhat rapid. Sort of final thing here, though, Kelly Dwyer. I. Our guy, Kelly Dwyer sent in some basketball cards, players past and present, he said, who did well for various fantasy teams of him of his. And he said it'd be super cool. If you want to look at these on the show and give a shout out to Katie on Hoops.com, that's Kelly's incredible NBA newsletter. That link is also in the show notes. And Kelly's doing a great job covering the NBA Finals from San Antonio right now where he's got game five. So go check that out. Katie on hoops.

[Tass]

Half price right now.

[J. Skeets]

Half price. Good call. Now's the time to get in. But anyway, he's sent in cards and we love this shit.

[Trey Kirby]

We love cards.

[J. Skeets]

So I'll just show you these real quick. He sent in, like, basically binder pages here. We won't go through these, but yeah, you know, there's. These are nice. Got some older ones there.

[Trey Kirby]

There's a coach card.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. Oh, Don Nelson. Yeah, that's great. It's great. Now, unfortunately, not. Not a Mark Jackson to be found in this.

[Trey Kirby]

Not a mark.

[J. Skeets]

Because that one's worth some money. Kelly knows it with the Menendez brothers on it. Yeah. You know that.

[Tass]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Good call.

[J. Skeets]

Take those if you want, but I figured for old time's sake, you want to play basically popping packs. Right. But with individual cards.

[Trey Kirby]

I would love to.

[Tass]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

Okay, so let's do it. I'll show the card if you guys guess it.

[Trey Kirby]

Some of These.

[J. Skeets]

Okay. Your first hint is. Well, speaking of. Or the inspiration behind popping packs. Our friend Lily had a weird nickname for this guy. He's probably the only guy to call him this.

[Trey Kirby]

Kathmandu.

[J. Skeets]

No, no, because Reggie calls him Kathmandu. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tass]

Those are old players, right?

[J. Skeets]

No, this is a. This is a current player. These are not all old, but we'll get. It's a. It's a mixture.

[Tass]

It's not Kevin Huerta. It's not a nickname.

[J. Skeets]

No.

[Tass]

Said it that way.

[J. Skeets]

Doherty. No, it's a superstar player. Superstar player.

[Trey Kirby]

Superstar player.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

The Donk. Look at Doncic.

[Tass]

Sure, sure, sure.

[J. Skeets]

Kelly's sending us more. Yeah. Somewhat more recent. I think that's a second year. Second year, Luca. Okay, this is a frequent. A Frequent Flyers card. Whatever. This guy's up. This guy's hall of Fame bound. Has a championship. Big man. He's on a new team now. I can't tell if he's happy about it.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, we got a future hall of Famer. He dunks a lot.

[J. Skeets]

I didn't say that part, but.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, I don't say in frequent flyer.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Or whatever it's called.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

He's not happy about it.

[J. Skeets]

No, no, he's not. I don't think he's super happy of where he got traded to.

[Trey Kirby]

Where who got traded up?

[J. Skeets]

He hasn't played a single game for them yet.

[Trey Kirby]

He hasn't played a single game?

[J. Skeets]

Will he.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, not Damien. Oh, Tony. Anthony Davis.

[J. Skeets]

Tony. Yes. Tony, as nobody calls him. Yes. Anthony Davis. There. Coming through. Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

I forgot about. Just kind of forgot about him a little bit.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, right. I actually had to catch myself. I was like, he hasn't played for the Wizards. Right?

[Tass]

Right.

[Trey Kirby]

No, no.

[J. Skeets]

Okay. All right, A.D. good. Another current player. I mean, this is a bit of a giveaway. Caught up in a. Bit of a. Bit of a scandal. I guess. We're still waiting. Oh, we ever gonna find out.

[Trey Kirby]

The tree man himself.

[J. Skeets]

The tree man himself. Tree man gets paid. Kawhi Leonard.

[Trey Kirby]

Lights, camera, action.

[Tass]

What's going on there? Just a cool looking.

[J. Skeets]

I know. I like that. Like film. Look there. Eh.

[JD]

Supposed to be la.

[Tass]

What is it? You know, what's that little basketball say up there?

[J. Skeets]

It just says premium stock tasks. This is a premium.

[Tass]

Guy's never been in a movie, that's for sure.

[Trey Kirby]

Kawhi Leonard never in a movie.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, interesting. Listen to this back. If Toronto has its way, they'll make a movie of Leonard someday and perhaps he can play himself.

[Trey Kirby]

It says that on the back.

[J. Skeets]

Every Raptors fan Would agree. There has never been a leading man quite like Leonard, who took the team to a title in 2018. 19. Well, for what it's worth, he's closer. Closer to Hollywood now as a new Clippers star, for what it's worth. Fascinating. Right? Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

All right. We got, we got a Hall of Famer.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

No longer with us, unfortunately. And he just recently came up on the show this week, Bill Walton. Oh, Dikembe Mutombo.

[Trey Kirby]

J.D.

[J. Skeets]

nice work.

[Trey Kirby]

Really quick, really nice pull.

[J. Skeets]

J.D. there he is, getting. This is like a signature sort of shot, the right hand hook.

[Trey Kirby]

Wow. It says right handed hook on it.

[J. Skeets]

That's cool.

[Trey Kirby]

I'd love to see the other ones from this.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, I know, I know. What are they?

[Tass]

Upper deck.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, that's an upper deck. Everybody had these. This is the junk wax era, man. I guess. Do you think of a right handed hook when you think of the Kimmy Mutombo?

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, I mean, offensively, that's the only shot I can really think of him ever taking.

[J. Skeets]

I agree.

[Tass]

Yeah. We're either blocking or hooking.

[J. Skeets]

We got upper deck. 9192. So I'll give you a bit of an era. One of my favorite players of all time.

[Trey Kirby]

91. 92, you said?

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. Was. He was an all star, I think once, maybe twice.

[Tass]

Nick Van Axel. No, Anderson's. No, Anderson. No. Yeah, Nick Anderson.

[J. Skeets]

Not Nick Anderson.

[Trey Kirby]

Kenny Anderson.

[J. Skeets]

Kenny Anderson, one of my favorites of all time. Good calling. Nick Van Exel, though, That's of course one of my other favorites. Kenny Anderson, man, I loved him back in the early 90s. And yeah, he did make an all star team, right?

[Trey Kirby]

Prospect. I think he was a one time all Star.

[J. Skeets]

Just one. Just one. Separately.

[Tass]

Still sweet and still doing it.

[J. Skeets]

Mr. Chips. Isn't that his handle? I've watched that documentary too.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, we did a episode.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kenny Anderson. I was looking it up here. Who cares? One time All Star. He played for a lot of teams in the end. Yes. Okay, okay. I'm telling you that just this, this. Okay, I'll give you this. This white boy looking. Looking cool on this car. He's got a leather jacket on, I think.

[Trey Kirby]

Tyler kolek.

[J. Skeets]

No, no. 91. 92. 92. 93. Excuse me. 92. 93. NBA draft card.

[Trey Kirby]

So he was drafted.

[J. Skeets]

92. I guess so.

[Trey Kirby]

A white gentleman in a leather jacket. Bruce Willis.

[J. Skeets]

No, no, this guy's got some cool hair.

[Trey Kirby]

Todd Lighty.

[J. Skeets]

No, he's better. He's better, he's better.

[Trey Kirby]

92. Draft.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Come on, was he like a successful player?

[J. Skeets]

Was he the 92 draft? He was, yeah, he was. 92 draft is correct. Yeah, he was a one time all star, but like much more successful college career.

[Tass]

Christian Laitner.

[J. Skeets]

Look at this card. Cool Christian looks.

[Trey Kirby]

He's a gold medalist at that point in his career.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, right, right, right, right.

[Tass]

That's Pete Christian.

[J. Skeets]

Look at that hair flowing. You know, again, maybe not a leather jacket, but some leather elements to it.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, he's leathered up.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Leather enough.

[J. Skeets]

All right, two cards left. And let me tell you, these, these cases they're in, they're weathered, they're yellowed. So a little bit older.

[Tass]

What was that that just flung at you?

[Podcast Announcer]

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[Tass]

Did you see that? Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Card fall apart, if it was a bug or something. I saw it too.

[Tass]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Hall of Famer. He had to played in a couple finals, but then ultimately had to go to another team to win a chip.

[Tass]

Drexler.

[J. Skeets]

No. Yeah. Taz, nice pull, man. Clyde Drexler. Look at the yellowing on this. Very yellow on this. Whatever you call those things. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

There's a plastic sleeve.

[J. Skeets]

There's a name for it. I'm sure there is for some reason. Can't think of it. That's a 9394, I guess. Flir. It says up top, 75 cents.

[Tass]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

Do you think that's worth more than 75 cents today or was that at its peak?

[Trey Kirby]

I bet it's probably around the same.

[J. Skeets]

Probably, yeah. Might be less. Okay, final one from Kelly Dwyer, Everybody. Go to kdonhoops.com say thank you by subscribing to his awesome finals newsletter. Kelly Dwyer has been one of the best NBA writers for the last two decades. Okay. Yeah, we got a. This, this is funny that Kelly said players past or president. That helped me in fantasy. I remember this guy being a fantasy player when I was. I was in the game. I remember him having a good year or two.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, he was a big guy.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

You think of two, you think of three teams. I think when you think of this guy, number 42, you're good. What year are we talking about the card is? 1990, I think. No, maybe a little bit later. 93. No, 94. Is this okay? He was a number one pick. Derek Coleman, eighth pick overall,

[Trey Kirby]

first rounder.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, first round. Sorry, I didn't mean number one.

[Tass]

Yeah. Known for Vin.

[J. Skeets]

Nice. Vin Baker, the 42 that did it. Yeah. I was going to say. Well, I'll ask you, Trey, you're also good at this. Do you Know where he went to school?

[Trey Kirby]

Vin Baker. Is he a Providence guy?

[J. Skeets]

I think you're very close. Something with a P. Not a P, but I think you're isn't. Hartford.

[Trey Kirby]

Hartford.

[J. Skeets]

Okay, nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hartford four year guy, I guess at Hartford. All time leader in points scored, field goals, free throws, block shots. Wonder if that's still true. Probably, right?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I would imagine so. Products afterwards.

[J. Skeets]

Thanks, Kelly Dwyer.

[Trey Kirby]

That's great.

[J. Skeets]

Thanks for the Cards, man.

[Tass]

That's fun.

[J. Skeets]

I love Cards. All right, next time we podcast, everybody, we might have a new NBA champion. We're going to be back here Sunday morning at 9am Eastern to discuss either the Knicks breaking their 53 year championship drought and securing the first double in NBA history, the cup and the title. It's huge. Or we're talking about the spurs having forced a Game 6 in MSG. Like Tassin, I think. But Trey says it's a wrap, baby. If we get another close game. They're coming through. Hey, look, that's why we play the game. That's why we play the game. We'll be here regardless. So I hope you join us at 9am Eastern on Sunday morning. Hit the like button. Subscribe podcast listener. Five star ratings and reviews. Go Canada. Go America. Go all the other teams we drafted here.

[Trey Kirby]

That's right.

[J. Skeets]

In our World cup pool. And yeah, enjoy the action. We'll see you guys on the weekend. Till then, Clifford Bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys.

[Trey Kirby]

Awesome.

[Tass]

Thanks for joining us. And remember, the person that's been a guest on Thanalysis the most is probably Vin Baker.

[Trey Kirby]

What?

[J. Skeets]

Really?

[Tass]

More than Giannis, I'm guessing. Now this. I don't know. I don't have a list.

[J. Skeets]

I'm surprised.

[Tass]

He's been on a lot. He was an assistant coach or he is an assistant coach. I think he's still with the Bucks. So he just said this was the beginning, more so of the analysis. I think I just need somebody. Vin, would you come on our show? So I just thought of that, seeing Vin Baker. He goes through his entire history.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah,

[Tass]

yeah. So, Scott La, Lots to say, but if he's been on more than Janice, like that's a, that's, that's a question. I don't know if that's true.

[J. Skeets]

I just love how much you know about this. I don't know a lot that you don't really like.

[Tass]

Did we talk about Ric Flair being on or is that off the air?

[J. Skeets]

We were, we were talking about that.

[Tass]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Tom Cruise not his guy.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, race the weekend people

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