The Drop | Spurs Force Game 7 & Draft Lottery Reform Concerns

Summary

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No Dunks: The Drop | Spurs Force Game 7 & Draft Lottery Reform Concerns

Release Date: May 29, 2026
Hosts: Jay Skeets, Tas Melas, Trey Kirby, JD (Super Producer)

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the San Antonio Spurs' dominant Game 6 victory over the Oklahoma City Thunder, forcing a Game 7 in the Western Conference Finals. The crew dissects Victor Wembanyama’s evolution under playoff pressure, the OKC stars’ struggles, and the night’s memorable moments. They also break down the newly approved NBA draft lottery reform—the controversial “3-2-1 System”—debating its fairness and impact on rebuilding teams. As always, the episode wraps up with a signature No Dunks rapid-fire segment and lighthearted banter.

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1. Spurs Force Game 7: Game 6 Analysis

[02:11–32:42]

Wembanyama’s Breakout Game

• The Spurs, facing elimination, routed the Thunder 118-91 to even the series 3-3.
• Wemby: 28 pts, 10 rebs in 28 min, leading from the outside in.
• Tas Melas [04:03]:
  "He was the best definition of a basketball player who is an assassin. He just picked his spots ... All the critics say you gotta start inside out. That dude started both of his first shots from the outside and banged them both from three point land."
• Wemby set the tone for the team with early threes, helping the squad and arena “just breathe a little bit.” (Jay Skeets [05:42])

San Antonio’s Three-Point Barrage

• 14 out of 23 first-quarter field goal attempts were threes; Spurs nailed 8 of them.
• OKC made only 6 threes through three quarters.
• Spurs played drive-and-kick, generating open looks. (Trey Kirby [06:06])

OKC's Struggles—SGA Stifled

• Shai Gilgeous-Alexander: 6-18 FG, 15 pts, bottled up by Spurs defense (esp. Castle, Fox, Kelton Johnson, Carter Bryant)
• Trey Kirby [08:26]:
  "Four straight games under 40%. He had nine total during the regular season. Back to back once. This is the best defense he's seen all year."
• SGA repeatedly met by a “7-footer hand in the face,” Spurs staying glued to shooters.

Third Quarter: The Spurs Defense Turns Up

• Massive 20-0 Spurs run—with Wemby on the bench.
• Jay Skeets [09:45]:
  "It was like a tornado of defense from the Spurs. Rotating, handing off guys on switches ... not getting exposed on the back end after their scrambling."
• OKC’s supporting cast (Jared McCain, Jalen Williams) looked rushed, out of rhythm.

Thunder Player Health and Adjustments

• Jalen Williams: Rough Game 6 after returning from injury, only 10 min played.
• Tas Melas [12:02]:
  "His 10 minutes versus Carter Bryant's eight minutes off the bench—Carter Bryant destroyed him."
• Chet Holmgren: Showed flashes, but hesitated to shoot, frustrating the hosts.

Role Players Shine for San Antonio

• Stephon Castle: Lockdown defense, turnover improvement (six total last four games, after 20 in Games 1-2).
• De'Aaron Fox: Finding ways to impact the game (7 ast, 0 TO, even if shots aren't falling).
• Dylan Harper: Healthier, aggressive on the glass, difference maker.
• Devin Vassell: Emerging every game as a key two-way piece.
• Trey Kirby [14:58]:
  "Harper to me was the difference maker... He just looked springy, like he was seeking out contact."

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2. Game 7 Preview: What Matters Most?

[16:24–25:33]

Superstars vs. Role Players

• Hosts debate if Game 7 comes down to SGA vs. Wemby or if it's all about role players' impact.
• Tas picks Alex Caruso as a potential x-factor:
  "Caruso is huge ... as soon as Caruso hits a shot or two, it helps out Shea." [17:11]
• Home-court advantage for OKC: 6–1 at home this postseason, 11–2 last year.
• Statistical trend: The winner is whoever's star outscores the other (SGA or Wemby).
• Jay Skeets [22:44]:
  "It does feel like a bit of a coin flip here. Can't wait to see what type of Wemby we get. I mean, it would be awesome to have a good game from Wemby and Shai in the same game."

Officiating Impact

• Consensus: Game 6 was well-officiated (shoutout Zach Zarba, Tyler Ford, James Williams).
• Potential for officiating to decide flow/game physicality in Game 7.
• Trey Kirby [21:47]:
  "Ain't no complaints about the officiating last night, but it was also a 30 point blowout. So less to worry about when the score isn't that close."

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3. Game 6 Random Notes & Viral Moments

[33:09–42:31]

• Wemby's green robe: Pre-game, sparking social media chatter. Wemby revealed: Wore it to celebrate Eid al-Adha, not monk cosplay.
  Jay Skeets [33:45]:
  "He had a book, didn't he? ... unbelievable intensity from this guy."
• Nuns in the Crowd: Spurs’ good luck charm “the nuns” returned—now with a puppet nun and evident hooping skills.
• Alien Guy: Iconic Spurs fan updated his trademark alien facepaint to a new look.
• Notable Arena Sights: “Well-endowed women” behind coach Mitch Johnson. NBC camera cutaway to avoid focus on them as game wore on.
• Fun Defensive Sequence: Highlighted by hosts during watch party—Spurs’ near-perfect rotations.
• Mutual Blocks: End of third quarter, Chet blocks Wemby, then vice versa next possession.

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4. Knicks Injury & Scheduling Notes

[47:05–50:19]

• Mitchell Robinson (Knicks): Broken right pinky, but will play Game 1 of the Finals with a brace.
  Trey Kirby [48:08]:
  "If there's any guy in the NBA that can play with a brace on his shooting hand, it is Mitchell Robinson."
• Knicks face a team coming off Game 7 for the third straight series—an NBA first.
• Jay Skeets [49:13]:
  “If I'm a Knicks fan, I'm thinking this is the year: we better win it. The Thunder already have a championship ... The Spurs are trying to win their first.”
• Fifth Game 7 of the postseason ties all-time record; Finals could break it.

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5. NBA Draft Lottery Reform: 3-2-1 System

[50:20–61:41]

New Structure Explained [51:56]:

• “Three-Two-One” System (beginning 2027):
  • 3 worst teams: 2 ping pong balls each.
  • Next 7 teams: 3 balls each.
  • No. 9 & No. 10 seeds + 7/8 play-in losers: 2 balls each.
  • All 16 lottery spots drawn (not just top 4).
  • 3 worst-record teams can pick no lower than 12th, but can slide to that spot.
  • No team can pick:
    • #1 in consecutive seasons.
    • Top 5 for three straight drafts (applies retroactively to 2025).
    • Picks 12–15 are unprotectable in trades.

Mixed Reactions & Key Controversies:

• Grizzlies' Frustration as Lone No-Vote

  • Memphis cannot use the Jazz's acquired top-5 pick in the 2027 draft due to retroactive rule.
  • Jay Skeets [55:18]:
    “They are essentially getting punished for Utah’s tanking with the new rules. That’s an insane decision by the league here.”
  • League justifies: grandfathering the pick would unfairly elevate its value.

• Winners & Losers

  • Winners: Spurs and Thunder—already loaded with talent and picks, benefit as “build a dynasty” is now much harder for bad teams.
  • Losers: Worst teams—much tougher now to escape the bottom; rebuilding through the draft is less viable.
  • Trey Kirby [55:48]:
    “Spurs are sort of the reason they put in the 'you can't draft top five three years in a row.' Now no team will be able to do that. This is great for the two teams that are the best in the league.”
  • Slippery slope: reform designed to tamp down tanking after a “black mark” 2026 season led to nine teams racing to the bottom for a loaded draft (note: hosts think it’s an overreaction to a unique draft year).

• Trade Market & Team Building Implications

  • Fewer sellers at trade deadline—teams incentivized to stay mediocre, not terrible.
  • Trey Kirby [58:53]:
    “I think the trade deadline is going to be brutal now ... If you're trying to stay in the middle, probably keep all those guys.”
  • Silver granted new powers: can punish tanking with fines up to $10M, alter draft order, or strip picks.

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6. Rapid Fire & Offbeat Fun

[69:01–91:16]

• Oh Boy of the Night:
  Victor Wembanyama—28pts, 10 reb, 4-9 3PT, 28min. Fresh haircut, pregame robe, “locked in.”
• Magnus Carlsen’s League Pass glitch rant sparks complaints segment.
  • Skeets: Atlanta drivers don’t use turn signals.
  • JD: TikTok algorithm only shows women on mechanical bulls.
  • Tas: Struggles removing shirts post-workout.
• Fun question: When have you eaten where you shouldn’t?
  • Skeets: Bowl of Honey Nut Cheerios on live watch party—just for the bit.
  • Tas: Trader Joe’s gummy worms (surprisingly high in fiber).
• What will hosts do with downtime?
  • Skeets: “Fix an eavestrough/gutter.”
  • Tas: Try to watch Ben McKenzie’s new crypto doc.
  • JD: Learn guitar.
  • Group: Tease a summer movie franchise rewatch series.
• Podcast inside jokes:
  • Return of the “Burger King” dinner debate for future watch parties.
  • Ongoing banter about ranked fast food and band formation.

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7. Notable Quotes & Moments

• Wemby’s Postgame:
  “We ain't done nothin' yet.” (Tas Melas, paraphrasing Wemby’s terse 14-word interview [04:53])
• On Game 7 Prediction
  “If anybody tells you to your face like, this is what is going to happen in game seven, come on. You have no clue, man.” (Jay Skeets [16:24])
• Draft Reform Scepticism
  “I think the worry here is the league was overreacting...Have they made just, like, new problems for themselves here?” (Jay Skeets [56:59])

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8. Important Timestamps

• [02:11] – Show proper begins, Game 6 headline
• [04:03] – Wemby’s offensive evolution
• [07:45] – SGA’s struggles, Spurs defense
• [09:45] – Spurs’ third quarter 20-0 run
• [14:07] – Castle and Fox's impact, Spurs role players
• [16:24] – Game 7 preview, x-factors, officiating
• [33:09] – Wemby’s robe, “the nuns,” arena viral moments
• [47:05] – Knicks’ Mitchell Robinson injury update
• [50:20] – NBA Draft Lottery Reform comprehensive breakdown
• [69:01] – Oh Boy of the Night (Wemby)
• [70:49] – Rapid Fire fun and group banter

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Summary

On-court, the Spurs forced a dramatic Game 7 on the back of historic shooting and suffocating defense, punctuated by Wembanyama’s calm mastery and statement pregame presence. The Thunder, meanwhile, looked lost—particularly SGA, overwhelmed by the Spurs’ defensive tactics.

Off-court, the new NBA draft lottery reform drew passionate commentary and concern from the crew. The hosts agreed that the changes, while aimed at stopping tanking, tilt the playing field in favor of teams already set up for dynasty runs (like the Spurs and Thunder), and may trap the league’s weakest teams in perpetual mediocrity.

Throughout, the No Dunks team infuses their trademark blend of inside basketball, trivia, pop culture jokes, and random life complaints—making this episode a comprehensive, lively take on a pivotal week in the NBA.

If you missed the episode, you’ll know:

• Why the Spurs’ defensive efforts on SGA have been so effective,
• What’s at stake—on the court and at the league offices—heading into Game 7,
• How the sudden shift to a radical new lottery system could ripple through team building for years.

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Next up:

• Live Game 7 watch party Saturday night, with immediate reaction podcast to follow.
• NBA Finals coverage and offbeat summer content teased.

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Transcript

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[Jay Skeets]

Good morning sweet world, and welcome to the no Dunks podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Friday, May 29, 2026. This is the Drop. I'm Jay Skeets here in the classic factory and alongside me as always, Tas Melas.

[Tas Melas]

NBA Playoffs lovers. This is for you.

[Jay Skeets]

Next to him, it's my top shot, hot boy, Trey Kirby. Hey, hey, yo. And over yonder, making the magic Happen, super producer JD.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Hello.

[Jay Skeets]

There he is. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hello podcast listeners. On today's show. On today's drop, we're going to run through some of the winners and losers of the NBA draft lottery reform. It is here the three two one System. We're going to hit you with a whole boy. We'll end with some rapid fire fun. But the real reason everybody's here this morning. Hit the Zaza. We going to game seven, baby. Game seven. Game seven. That's right, Zaza. The San Antonio spurs and Oklahoma City Thunder are going to seven games in the west finals. The spurs facing elimination last night took down the defending champs 118 91. We got a lot of garbage time in this one with Wemby leading the way with 28 points, 10 rebounds in just 28 minutes and SGA star Garling shooting 6 of 18 from the field. Just 15 points for him. So yeah, we're all tied up. Three, three. Game seven. Saturday night we're going to be live here in the classic factory for the watch party fun Saturday Night Live. And then. You're not excited to do that?

[Trey Kirby]

No, I'm very excited. We got a great host lined up, great musical guest. We don't want to spoil it now, but big names.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Ok.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. And then the plan is we'll probably do an immediate reaction podcast two Game seven. Hopefully it's a classic. Anyway, that's Saturday night. Let's talk about last night. What surprised you Most about Game 6?

[Tas Melas]

I would say the way Wemby started shooting from the outside, I mean he was the best definition of a basketball player who is an assassin. He just picked his spots. He picked the way he did his interview post game. I mean the way it started, you'd think all the ridicule, all the the critics say you got to start inside out. That dude started both of his first shots from the outside and banged them both from three point land. And then the game came some to him so slowly, the way he handled the ball going into his moves into the mid range. He was just in that feel in that zone from the get go. Then he stepped outside that step back three. So a perfect balance of both. That's why OKC's got to be scared. Then he jumps into his post game interview. I counted 14 words.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Through two questions he said Max two questions. He knew that going in because he left. Now you could say it was 16 words because he did say thank you to Ashley Shaman but he got the heck out of that. And the the four words that were most important, we ain't done nothing yet. I guess it was five. The way he threw it in there. Did he say we ate or Barkley style or we didn't? It was difficult to tell because he just kind of mumbled it. But literally the Game slowed down for him so much in this, in this one. All the critics say inside out, but the way he did that from outside in, that's the guy you can't mess with, right? That is the, that is the optimal version of Victor Wembanyama that people are scared about. If he could do it that way, how do you stop them?

[Jay Skeets]

The entire spurs team came out firing from deep. They have 14 of their 23. First quarter field goal attempts were threes. But you're right, Wemby hitting some early ones, Devin Fassell hitting some early ones. It helped San Antonio and maybe that entire arena just breathe a little bit, right? You know, like it's tense. Obviously this is a must win game. But he came out locked in and, yeah, splashed a couple and they were off and running. They led wire to wire in this game.

[Trey Kirby]

They led wire to wire and the three point shooting in the first quarter, they hit eight of them. Like it keeps the fans in the game. You're getting so excited as these are going down, going down, going down. Wemby's hitting a couple of them as well. Like I said, eight in the first quarter. Oklahoma City hit six through three quarters through the majority of the game. Like it was close at halftime. But when you factor in the third quarter run, obviously a blowout for San Antonio, it's just good to be home. Good to be back with the sisters getting the blessings, knocking them down 15 of 41. But I thought it came from a lot of drive and kick. Like I thought the spurs guards did a really great job of, of getting into the lane, kicking it out, maybe the three pointers there, but if not, we're just going at it again. Driving kick again, get a jumper, knock it down. If I'm the Thunder, though, I'm saying, hey, we kept Wemby out of the paint, right? Like, he didn't dominate inside. This was a hot shooting night for Victor Wembanyama. He's basically unguardable when you do that. But the spurs didn't score a ton of points in the pain. I think they ended up with 44. Now, that's because they were raining fire from three, of course. But if I'm a Thunder fan, I'm saying when we get back to okc, they're not shooting as well. We're going to be the ones who are shooting hot. And we did a decent job of keeping Wemby out of the paint. You just got to hope he misses as well because there's not a lot of defense that you can do. When he is taking a step back jumper, he's seven, five.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Six shots in the paint for him. It was a balance for him. You're living with that if you're.

[Trey Kirby]

If you're the Thunder. He didn't dominate inside and he didn't really start inside either. This was a perimeter game for Wemby.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Like you said about the spurs, hey, we came home. That's what the Thunder got to be hoping for, going home in game seven because they had a lot of guys just couldn't hit shots. And it did start with Shay, as you said.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, man, he has been bottled up here. Yeah, he has. And.

[Tas Melas]

And his.

[Jay Skeets]

He's.

[Tas Melas]

He's out of his rhythm, too. I mean, you look a lot of

[Jay Skeets]

Castle and other guys switching on to him.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. But he's also.

[Jay Skeets]

Credit has to go. This guy has put up 30 points per game on unbelievable efficiency for four straight seasons.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

And now this is the worst he's ever looked. The correlation is this. I mean, credit to the spurs defense and how.

[Trey Kirby]

Yes.

[Jay Skeets]

Just unbelievably hard. They're playing. He's missing shots. Yeah. It was weird to see him miss that little left hand layup when he maybe could have passed it to Caruso, but Lacelle challenged it. There's the other part.

[Tas Melas]

He's out of his flow. There is no doubt he's missing makeable shots for him. He hasn't had a good game since game two. I would say.

[Trey Kirby]

No. Four straight games under 40%. He had nine total during the regular season. Back to back once. So this is the best defense he's seen all year.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes.

[Trey Kirby]

And it's basically just one on one defense. I mean, there's help for sure when he gets under the free throw line. Wemby is doing a good job of just being there. Cornett was doing a good job of just being there. Oklahoma City, definitely in game seven needs to find ways to move those guys out of the lane because they're playing one on one defense. Shale maybe get a shoulder buy. But then there's a seven footer just.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Hand in the face, just waiting for him right there. That allows the spurs to stay closer to the three point shooters as well. We're not seeing huge shooting numbers last night from any of those guys. So zero. They're really impressive what the spurs are doing. And it's a lot of different guys. Like Castle's the main guy, but V has been really solid as well. Fox is at least giving an effort when he catches Shay on a switch. I thought Kelton Johnson was solid last night. Carter, Bryant, they come in, they say, just smash into this guy a few times. He's going to hate it. And then play the defense as well. I give Mitch Johnson a lot of credit. Carter Bryant has had a lot of rookie moments in this series, but he's still getting a chance. Got a chance in a game six. This was a must win game and he performed. I thought so. Spurs are doing great against Shea. Maybe that means he's due. Or maybe that means they've got the recipe at least to make things tough on him.

[Jay Skeets]

Sorry, I thought you were going to say something. San Antonio led 60 to 53 at the half. This was still a close game. That was an awesome first half. Super entertaining. Had a great flow to it. Hey, credit to the officials. I thought last night, let the boys play. We did have for the most part some really nice basketball. Good flow, like I said. Now, there were a few reviews that we probably didn't need that ended up bogging it down a little bit. But that third quarter was when the spurs pulled away task a 20 to 0 run with Wemby on the bench for a majority of this, if not all that. Right. And that was just the smothering spurs defense on okc. There are so many times they just looked so incredibly connected on the defensive end. Rotating, handing off guys on switches, just all. It was like cycling. It was like a tornado of defense from the spurs. And of course not getting exposed on the back end after their scrambling. That was just amazing and obviously won them the game in the third quarter.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. And outside of Shea who couldn't find his flow, nobody else did a thing out there. Jared McCain also looked rushed in every single one of his moves. And he was kind of caught as when Wemby went to the floor. Am I going to the rim or do I pull up? And he was caught in between. He was letting it go sort of as. As these floaters weren't good. Super rushed, nobody did a thing. Also, Jalen Williams and his return in J Dub, not looking good. If you're the Thunder, you say, whoa. Do you see what happened with Dylan harper from Game 5 to Game 6? Looked bad in Game 5, returning from his injury. Game 6, he looked spectacular. He was in such a flow. So it's a different injury. It's a hamstring that he's going through. They have that hope, I assume going into his second game, but he's going to play.

[Trey Kirby]

You think he'll still play in game seven?

[JD (Super Producer)]

As it.

[Trey Kirby]

As in assuming he's as healthy as he was last night. Do you think the Thunder should play him?

[Jay Skeets]

If he's the exact same as he looked and moved around on the court last night, he should not play.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

He did nothing he could.

[Trey Kirby]

He didn't do nothing. He was bad. He was hurting the team.

[Jay Skeets]

One point obviously off a free throw and a couple turnovers and just otherwise he only played 10 minutes. But you can't inspire a lot of confidence. No.

[Trey Kirby]

If he plays like that in a game seven, that's. You can't have that.

[Jay Skeets]

No.

[Trey Kirby]

Even 10 minutes.

[Tas Melas]

No. No. His 10 minutes versus Carter Bryant's eight minutes off the bench. Carter Bryant destroyed him and had a great body check of Shay in the. Or in the. In the middle of the key when a shot went up for a rebound. Here comes Carter Bryant Beining knowing who's he's going to take out and took out Shay. Gil Alexander. That was nice. I think Mark DA has no problem pulling Jaylen Williams if he is banged up. If he is still hurt. So yeah, that. Yeah, that's a concern. Again, who helped him? Jeremy Kane out of flow. Jaylen Williams not looking good. I thought Chad Holren did some good things, but he also was slowed down. He slowed himself down. There was opportunities there just to let it rip and he needs to shoot more like he.

[Jay Skeets]

As simple as that. Shoot it.

[Trey Kirby]

He needs to get it. Jesus.

[Jay Skeets]

He's a good shooter.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. He just.

[Jay Skeets]

The weirdest thing.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Frustrating.

[Tas Melas]

So literally just not letting it go. You know. Casey Wallace was fine.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Well, I think you might see a lot more case in Wallace. I mean Lou Dort might get a quick yank as well. He's been brutal and he was. He was at least shooting last night. Of course it was not dropping and he's been pretty cold here for a while now. So I think Casen Wallace could get more minutes there.

[Tas Melas]

It was worth weird with Luke because he hit his first one. Yeah, he hit his first three from the corner and I don't know why he took that bomb from up top. That's not. And not a Lou like shot from 27ft. You know, the shot clock was ticking down but it wasn't that. There's no need for that. So that he misses his next eight threes after his making his first one from the corner. So an ugly game. It's literally difficult to point out. Yeah. Casen Wallace good on both ends and good at something. You don't really consider with Casen Wells, his drives and his finishes. That's not really, you know, what we know of him, but yeah, yeah. Overall, just terrible. And that the spurs, yes. Getting back to the third quarter, they were. They were the thunder mirror in the way. They were just flying. Whether or not Stefan Castle's doing a good job on Shea's shoulder and just being right there and being in his head when Shay let that ball go to every single connection, man, they're a string out there.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Castle, let's talk about him because obviously the big role on slowing sga, damn near stopping him, but efficient from the field in this one too. He's also damn near completely fixed the turnover issue which plagued him here early in this series. He turned the ball over 20 times through the first two games, but he's committed six, total of six across the last four games. Big part of that, having Fox back.

[Trey Kirby]

Huge part.

[Jay Skeets]

Just a ball out of his hands now. Fox couldn't hit a shot to save his life last night. I thought he looked like Fox when he started the game. I thought he had a nice bounce to him. I'm like, oh, okay, there it is. Just the shots are like, everything is rimming out for him. And this was a rough one shooting wise. But Castle was a huge, huge part of the defensive run. The scoring there in the third quarter to push this to a, to a weekend game seven. And just his play moving off the ball a little bit more and just being able to lock in defensively. He's been awesome. Along with Harper, as you talked about.

[Trey Kirby]

Yes, I mean, Harper. Harper to me was the difference maker of last night for the Spurs. He just looked springy. He looked like he was seeking out contact. He was helping on the glass like he did when he was healthy at the beginning of this series. So for me going to game seven, I'm like, I expect a similar performance from you now that we've seen you're at least healthy enough to do it. Fox just doesn't seem to have any sort of touch right now, but that's fine because he's doing a Good job facilitating seven assists, zero turnovers last night. In four games this series, he has five total turnovers. That's amazing. 26 assists to five turnovers. And a huge problem was Castle turning the ball over. Fox comes back, it's a little bit less on Castle's plate and now he's not turning the ball over. He's also seeing easily, more easily attacked defender as well. Fox will bend the defense in a screen and roll with Wemby and then that just gives Castle a better chance to attack. So him kind of slotting into the 1.5 ball handler has been perfect for this team. But you just have to imagine the Thunder are thinking we're going to get similar performances when we go back home. Like, Caruso was muted last night. He's been awesome in every Spur Thunder win so far. SGA has to be due for a game. Chet played good in game five back in. Okay. OKC as well. So, I mean, this still feels like a toss up going into game seven, but weird. It's just weird. That's like blow up one way, blow out the other way. Good responses from both teams for sure, but it leaves you kind of questioning what's going to actually go down in game seven. Any result would be legitimately expected.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

If anybody tells you to your face like, this is what is going to happen in game seven, come on. You have no clue, man. Now I'm confident there won't be a seven and a half minute stretch probably where OKC can't score. Like that third quarter where, yeah, the spurs were stopping them, but they just could not buy a bucket. I mean, just like even what that was during the run where Hartenstein had like a dunk, an alley oop, like pop out. So that probably won't happen, but who knows? And like, yeah. What is the thing you're looking at most tasks in game seven? Like, is it all the role player talk or does it just come down to like Wemby and sga? Like throughout this series when SGA scores as much or scores more than Wemby, Thunder win. When the opposite happens and Wemby's the main guy, the spurs win, is it sort of. Is it maybe possibly as simple as the superstars here in a game seven?

[Tas Melas]

I don't think so. I think it comes down to Crusoe is huge on that strong side. When Shay gets going downhill a little bit, he comes and sneaks out into that corner. Three from the strong side and he's ready to bang him down. And so I, I think that game is going to be really, really key. As soon as Caruso hits a shot or two or three, it helps out Shea. So that balance.

[Jay Skeets]

Caruso is going to play a lot, I would assume in game seven.

[Tas Melas]

This is game seven. Yeah. There's no doubt in. In this game. Yeah, they needed a. In anything. Jared McCain not in. In that flow. Jalen Williams not looking like himself. AJ Mitchell isn't playing basketball right now. He's injured. Likely going to be out for game seven, I imagine. So they needed one of those guys. It needs to be Caruso in this one. It could be a chat, it could be a J Will and Jalen Williams who couldn't hit a three in this one. Jared McCain was way better at home. So yeah, it's a question mark. It is truly a flip of the coin because the spurs could have another great performance. Darren Fox could find his flow even though he's got, he's got like Tyus Jones, Jose Calderon assist, a turnover ratio, numbers there that you throw out 26 to 5. It's. That's amazing. But he had a huge dud here and they come come through because even champagne has found his float with the three point shot demisel. I thought, oh God, that guy has

[Jay Skeets]

been every game we fall more and more in love with this guy. Yeah, blocks chat somehow didn't get attack for like pushing him and barking at him. It's like they were like they literally lit let it go last night. They're like, all right, that's usually a Tech. I mean playoffs are not.

[Tas Melas]

But Devin Vassell's stats are really impressive. He's had an incredible series. He's their best three point shooter, 42.6%. He's hit the most threes for them by far with 20. He's third in points, first in steals, tied for second in blocks for this team. He's yapping with just been great. So, so good. He's been really, really good. Okay, they're getting better. They're getting better at the scare part. Dylan Harper getting better. Fox might find a flow. Yeah, they're, they're peeking at the right point here. While the Thunder, AJ Mitchell I mentioned as well as Jalen Williams, the, the original Jalen Williams, I guess you call him that.

[Trey Kirby]

He was drafted first.

[Jay Skeets]

Original.

[Tas Melas]

Good call. Jared McCain hasn't played in a Game 7. There's those little teeny tiny factors, but Caruso I think is the key for them. Just that little tick, that little tick that Shane needs.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, I mean yes, you can't do it alone but to me this is game seven sga. His has to be a monster game from him because of all the great work the spurs have done. But he can obviously still explode for a 30, 35, 40 point game. He's been good in game sevens before. That wouldn't be new but he's averaging like 24 and 8 here or 24 and 9 and he's shooting under 40% from the field, 26% from 3. You know, I wonder will even take some more threes there potentially in, in game seven. We'll see because like trying to get by these guys, especially if the whistle is hit. Hey, let the contact happen. And there's not a parade to the free throw line. Like what three free throw attempts for SGA last night. There were a couple instances where it was sort of end of the quarter, end of shot clocks and he's like, you know, barrel into the rim. He sometimes will get those calls and they just swallowed the whistle. They're like, nope, he fell to the ground.

[Tas Melas]

Too much talk about flops, say the referees. That's what it felt like. No more of these whistles. He could have got one. When he was run over by Carter Bryant in the lane. He also, he also could have flopped. I thought it was early in this game, Luke Cornet took him basically from the three point line into the paint. He could have flopped and got a call that was, I think if you're ever going to flop, that was a good time because Denver Sol then had a wide open three because she was literally dragged the entire paint. But yeah, three free throws. Was it the goal of the referees to stop calling whistles for him yesterday?

[Jay Skeets]

Well, this is a good officiating crew. I mean Zach Zarba is, I do think, a good official. And then we had Gucci ref, ZZ Tob, Tyler Ford. This was a good team, good crew. Was this the same crew from game one did Zarbo was here to maintain.

[Trey Kirby]

Let me give you a quick game,

[Jay Skeets]

one quick click here. I feel like that might be true,

[Trey Kirby]

but it was obviously Zarbo was there for game.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. He was a part of it anyway. This is not Tanya Brothers in control of the, of the team here. No, but we say this because it might have an impact on game seven. How the game is going to be officiated, of course can be a positive or a negative to one of the teams of how they play. So we'll see here. But this was at least aesthetically a lot more enjoying for a viewer to watch. I think if you don't have a dog in this race and you don't really care who moves on. I thought it was a well officiated game for the most part.

[Trey Kirby]

Ain't no complaints about the officiating last night, but it was also a 30 point blowout. So less to worry about when the score isn't that close.

[Jay Skeets]

That's a good point. OKC is 6 and 1 at home during the 26 playoffs. They went 11 and 2 at home during last year's title run. Their only loss this year, double overtime at home. Of course to Wemby and the spurs in Game one. And then their losses last year at home were like last second shots. So they're really good at okc. And as our guy Ben Gulliver put it, getting the chance to host game seven at the Paycom center is why Oklahoma City never let its foot off the gas during the regular season. So they do have that going for them, though. What the numbers have started to tilt a little bit to road teams can go and win Game Sevens on the road. It used to be it was like almost like if you had game seven at home, you were winning. Like, whatever it was, it felt very high, like 85%. But I think it's come back to earth a little bit. Cavs just did it, so who knows? Cavs just did it. Sixers just did it.

[Trey Kirby]

So twice already this playoffs.

[Jay Skeets]

We'll see. Again, it does feel like a bit of a coin flip here. Can't wait to see what type of Wemby we get. I mean.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, like, it would be awesome to have a good game from Wemby and Shay in the same game.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

And then we figure out, like, who's the Random Game 7 Hero. Like, it was Grant Williams once upon a time. Is it Jalen Williams? Big Jalen Williams, the second Jaylen Williams? Maybe it will be. Maybe it'll be. Luke Cornett has 14 points, goes nuts in a third quarter. I don't know. But this is a tight series and I hope we actually, like, get good performances. Game Sevens can be pretty ugly in a lot of this. I don't actually know who that would favor. If they send Scott Foster out there, they say try and extend this one. We would like to get to an eighth game. We're letting all fouls go.

[Tas Melas]

Home team. I guess we're letting all fouls go. Yeah, just like, just, you know, we're

[Trey Kirby]

not calling a lot. I don't know. I don't know who that.

[Jay Skeets]

On one hand, that favors. That does favor the spurs with how they play.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, both teams hack all the time, if we're being quite honest.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Yeah. Carter Bryant took on the role of Lou Dort essentially when he came in. Body check Shay in. In the paint. They resemble each other.

[Jay Skeets]

It's funny. It's not the fouls that are like hacking a guy shooting or a guy attacking the rim, and it's a shooting foul. It's all those other ones. It's all of the moving picks and the bumps here and there and the grabs and the clutches that officials see and decide whether or not to call that accumulate that add up to get to bonuses slows the game down. And that's how in game five you get like SGA shooting what, 17 free throw attempts. Right. So like it's. It's sort of to me like whatever the officiating crew is deciding with all that extra stuff, how physical are you allowing all of this off ball stuff when maybe it's not an actual shot

[Tas Melas]

attempt, but so they gotta, they gotta have a Zack Zara crew out there.

[Jay Skeets]

I Zack backto back Zachs. I mean, I love it. I think he's good. He actually is good. He's always fixing his hair before he gets on camera. That's my only complaint with him.

[Tas Melas]

What was the other well officiated game in this series? Game one, right?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Game one was.

[Tas Melas]

That was a Zara.

[Trey Kirby]

That was a Zara.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Hey, look, he's the common.

[Tas Melas]

That was a Zara. Mitchell Irvin, John Goble and Ed Malloy as the alternate.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, that was the game where we thought alternate Ed. Right.

[Tas Melas]

And in game six, it was Zarba. Tyler Ford and James Williams don't even list the alternate. Weird.

[Jay Skeets]

They don't need it when Zarba's there. Baby, we don't need an alternate. When do we find out? We must find out.

[Trey Kirby]

Probably tomorrow morning or something. All right, game two was Tony, Carl, Ed and Josh. If they follow up after Zach Zarba again.

[Jay Skeets]

So what does that mean, we're going to get like a Mark Davis?

[Trey Kirby]

No, I'm just. I'm just saying that game one was a Zarba crew followed by followed by a Tony.

[Jay Skeets]

My Tony head. No, we don't want Tony. I wouldn't. Yeah, I don't want a Tony. I don't want to stop, but I don't want to tone the league.

[Trey Kirby]

No Tony, no Scott.

[Jay Skeets]

Give me anyone else. Maybe, maybe Ed Malloy will be one of the head guys after being an alternate there. He said. What are we talking about? Whoever it is, I hope we don't talk about them at all in game seven.

[Trey Kirby]

It feels like a big lineup to session. That was on the lake.

[Jay Skeets]

It's a huge decision.

[Trey Kirby]

Make some adjustments.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, it's an easy one. This easy Top. Get Zach Zarbo.

[Trey Kirby]

Make him do it.

[Tas Melas]

He might be tired this morning.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know if he's got it.

[JD (Super Producer)]

I don't know.

[Tas Melas]

I mean, there was garbage time in the fourth quarter eating that.

[Jay Skeets]

He should have just sat down. That's when they should use the alternate.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Hey, what do you call it when Zach refs A game. That's a blowout.

[Jay Skeets]

Give me a chance.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know.

[Jay Skeets]

I was actually gonna go. Zack. Bunch of Z's. Like sleepy. So yours is better. Zarbage time is good.

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[Jay Skeets]

Anything else from the actual game 6. The X's and O's the Schemes before we get to our silly random notes I never know or game seven I

[Trey Kirby]

never know if this counts as X's and O's or silly random notes. Wemby and Shay matched up for that one possession in the third quarter where Shay hits the baseline. Fade away.

[Jay Skeets]

That's a basketball note, baby.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, good.

[Jay Skeets]

I liked that. That was awesome.

[Trey Kirby]

I thought that was cool. I was hyped. That felt like all star game LeBron versus Kobe Drake clapping. But that was me. I was Drake last night. That was cool. I also liked J Dub. His win one assist was to J Will.

[Jay Skeets]

That was nice. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. And Torico really liked that.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh yeah, he did.

[Jay Skeets]

You said the SGA where he did hit the dirty shot on Wemby. That was early. Third quarter is that correct.

[Trey Kirby]

It might have been their last basket before the run.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, okay. That's what I mean. Before Wemby checked out.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Right.

[Jay Skeets]

And then they went on a massive run again. This was like. It turned into a blow up, but holy crap. Like, the first half was. It was fantastic. I thought, because again, spurs were giving them everything, trying to stay alive and Thunder were staying attached. It was still a very close game at the half.

[Tas Melas]

I was slow in that third quarter.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, I mean, that was that day. Just cranked up the D and yeah, OKC could not score.

[Trey Kirby]

That was enjoyable to watch. Defense, though. Sometimes I feel like when a team goes on a 220 run, it's like good defense, but also the team on offense is like missing wide open shots or something like that. This, to me, was the spurs completely locked in. If they got beat, somebody was there to help. And then somebody was there to help the helper. They were so good.

[Jay Skeets]

Trey. We were doing the watch party on YouTube. We mentioned a very solid play on defense. I'm not sure it's ever been done with the two thumbs up. We were like, look at this defensive possession. Is these one one of those ones where they're handing off guys and just swallowing them? No one was open. There was no shot to take.

[Tas Melas]

Is that the one NBC did a replay of potentially a Castle Steel.

[Trey Kirby]

They might have done a replay of that.

[Tas Melas]

NBC doing some nice work. Nice work. We talked about how good they were on Thursday's show. That was nice. Nice replay. Nice replay. Breakdown. A breakdown of defense.

[Jay Skeets]

Do you have anything else or do you want to get to random notes?

[Trey Kirby]

I think this is my last X and O. I think this qualifies as an X and O. Chat blocked Wendy at the end of the third quarter. Skeets is like, well, at least Chat has that. And then when we blocked check.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, that was. That was awesome. Back to back possession. Defensive player of the year. Runner up of the defensive player of the year. That was.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Stuffing each other. Back to back possessions there. End of the third quarter. Right.

[Trey Kirby]

Now that we're into game seven, I know how to format my notes.

[Jay Skeets]

Hey, you're good, man. You're good. Okay, let's get into some random notes.

[Tas Melas]

Random.

[Jay Skeets]

All right. This had the people talking last night heading into game six. Wemby arrived at Frostbank center last night wearing a unique dark green robe, long robe with gray pants, pair of slides. And he was asked about the outfit after the game. And Wemby said that the robe he wore wasn't because of the monks. That's what a lot of people were saying. But to celebrate, eat a lot of the Islamic holiday. So he did confirm that he also had the fresh new haircut to match. So, yeah, you saw that coming through the tunnel. He was locked in. He had the book in his hand, too, of course. And then he comes out and sets the tone in game six.

[Tas Melas]

What book did he have in his?

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know. He had a book, didn't he?

[Tas Melas]

Quran?

[Jay Skeets]

No, I don't think so. I don't know for sure. But he had a book in his hand.

[Trey Kirby]

The Alchemist.

[Jay Skeets]

Exactly. Betty likes it, but unbelievable. Just intensity from this guy.

[Tas Melas]

He's ready.

[Jay Skeets]

It even. It continued post game.

[Tas Melas]

There's no doubt he knew what he was doing post game from the minute he walked into that arena. I'll just do a quick two questions. I won't really think about the answers. He didn't really ponder everything. Everything came to his.

[Jay Skeets]

It was an I'm here so I don't get fined type of response.

[Tas Melas]

Definitely got that feel.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. I thought it was the monk thing, too. I didn't know it was.

[Jay Skeets]

That's what people thought at first, but

[Tas Melas]

Muller or Muslim Prince, that's boom. Came through.

[Trey Kirby]

They asked Dylan Harper about it afterwards. He's like. When he showed up in that outfit, I think everybody knew it was going to happen. That's aura. It's literally.

[Jay Skeets]

We wear it again.

[Tas Melas]

What will you wear in games Saturday night?

[Trey Kirby]

What will he wear? Yeah, that's important. Halloween costume.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, man.

[Trey Kirby]

Drawn by surprise.

[Jay Skeets]

Showing up as Slenderman. If he goes full Slender Man. Wow. Holy. All right, the nuns were back.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, baby.

[Jay Skeets]

For game six. In much worse seats, though.

[Trey Kirby]

Much worse.

[Jay Skeets]

They were. I think they were like. I don't know, is that bottom, lower bowl or is that upper bowl?

[Tas Melas]

I'm not sure, but those are kind of. Are they sweet seats? I guess I didn't think so because the row right behind them. Those look like sweet seats. Maybe.

[Trey Kirby]

Why do you say that behind them?

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Well, they look bigger on the left. That looks like a big.

[Jay Skeets]

Anyway, I don't think that guy wearing that cowboy hat is getting into a suite. So I think this is just. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

On the bottom. Yeah. Yeah. Probably not.

[Jay Skeets]

I'm just saying they were like, basically courtside for game four.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

It was funny that. It was Crawford. Reggie. I think Crawford said, the nuns aren't here. And then immediately in the truck, they're saying, hey, we got to get to the nuns. Get the shot of the nuns. And they got to them pretty quickly.

[Jay Skeets]

And we started Seeing them more and more as the game went on. Luke Cornett definitely did something during that third quarter run. Probably. Well, he had a big dunk to Elliot. We saw the nuns right away. Right away. Anytime something happens with Luke Cornett, we got to go to the nets because he has been blessed by them. Can you go back to it, though, J.D. because I meant to point this out. One of the nuns is holding a puppet nun on the far right. What's going on there? She, like, dabbling in ventriloquism, like. Or something like, wow, I wonder what that is. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Like a Cabbage Patch Nun.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Interesting.

[Trey Kirby]

I saw a video of the nuns shooting around on a hoop outside.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, T.K. i saw it, too. And I'm like, is this AI? I don't know anymore. Exactly.

[Trey Kirby]

Fair question.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't think it is.

[Trey Kirby]

I don't either.

[Jay Skeets]

And if it isn't, that one nun's got game.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay. I thought the smallest nun, she went second from the left here.

[Jay Skeets]

Great handles.

[Trey Kirby]

I was impressed with the way she was handling the ball. Tallest nun, wimpy jersey. Hit like a 30 footer and then said, we're going to win. That was pretty impressive.

[Jay Skeets]

Again, nuns. Is it real?

[Trey Kirby]

Are these nuns Hoopers? These nuns look like Hoopers to me.

[Jay Skeets]

I think it's real. And you're right. They. Two of them in particular, could play. You can just tell. You can tell if someone can play basketball just the way they hold a basketball. I've said this before. The way they dribble it, you just can tell. They got it. They got it.

[Tas Melas]

Was it the ventriloquist who said, no, no, no, no.

[Jay Skeets]

She. She wasn't in the.

[Tas Melas]

Because later on, she did pull up the puppet. We don't have the screen grab, but our. Our friend Vinnie emailed it in. A screen grab when it was 10270. With hand. Hand in the ventriloquist mouth wide open. Like she was talking through the ven. Through the puppet. Very good.

[Trey Kirby]

They got to go to game seven. Like, the spurs need to pull out all kinds of these nuns to game seven. We got to protect the nuns.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. I mean, could they even have a little small jackal section, I wonder. But that's close. Maybe. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Like San Antonio, Oklahoma City. Not far.

[Jay Skeets]

No, not really.

[Tas Melas]

Okay, so you ain't allowing that.

[Jay Skeets]

No, no. Nor should.

[Trey Kirby]

But.

[Tas Melas]

But the spurs get.

[Jay Skeets]

The spurs get tickets, like, for family. Don't you get, like, some allocated tickets? Well, you can put it. Your family tickets, you can, you know, put to the nuns. Yeah, the nuns definitely got to be there. Alien dude, he was back at game six, Remember we saw him in game four, y', all green face paint. Well, I don't know if he ran out of the green face paint or what, but he switched it up and went with a different alien type of look. Still alien with the. The nose and the, and the glasses and all that. But, uh, yeah, the white face paint.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, one at one point on no buffs, Nora explained all the different aliens to us. I remember there being a green man version and a gray slash silver man.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, you're right.

[Trey Kirby]

I guess he's just covering all his bases.

[Jay Skeets]

I should have asked her.

[Trey Kirby]

I still don't like that nose. That's his go to alien nose and I hate it. Human's nostrils aren't like, that's a good paint job.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. So obviously they're in the Jackal. He's got the cool chain on. So nice to see him back. Also back. We don't have the screen grab you pervs. But the two well endowed women were back behind Mitch Johnson.

[Tas Melas]

They were there.

[Jay Skeets]

They weren't there at the beginning of the game. And don't you worry, people in our stream team had noticed. But then of course they showed up. I wanted to bring this up though, because I'm pretty sure NBC producers or higher ups or whoever has said, okay, when we go to Mitch Johnson, you gotta go closer in. You gotta take the ladies out behind him. There's too much chatter going on. As the game went on, the shot got tighter and tighter on Mitch Johnson. It was like extreme close up of Mitch Johnson. And I think it's so you can't see. I think there had been at least one of them, maybe an only fan model or something like that to take them out of the shot. That's my working theory. So he's saying tighter on Mitch.

[Trey Kirby]

We got a TV PG rating.

[Jay Skeets]

Exactly, exactly. You know, but they were in their bright colors and they're there again. They were there, what, three games, right? All three games in San Antonio.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Very supportive.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Anyway, made me laugh a couple clips here. You know, rough game for J Dub, as we said. Like he gutted it out. He came off the bench for the first time since like what, 2022, I think they said. Never had done it in the playoffs. Anyway, they had this clip of him, sort of a package of him warming up, but then within the package, him running in to Isaiah Hartenstein in the tunnel or around the curtains here. Excuse me.

[Trey Kirby]

They should have known he was rusty right then.

[Jay Skeets]

That's what I Thought, you know, like, oh, that's what I thought.

[Tas Melas]

That was when they walked out post game on that. In that same. That same carpet there. Sam Presti was there to give him fist bumps. I don't usually see Sam Presti doing the fist bumps. They're locked in for game seven. They're ready.

[Jay Skeets]

Alex Caruso got a golfing package because we had a golf read from Tirico. So we're like, hey, this guy's a golfer. Let's show his footage here. Yeah, there he goes off the tee. Is that a hole in one?

[Tas Melas]

No, that wasn't a tee. That wasn't a tee.

[Trey Kirby]

That looked like it went right in the bunker. Why would they show that? Yeah, he's got a golfer look to him.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, apparently he's quite good. They said, right? Toriko said the best golfer in the building or something. That's what he said.

[Tas Melas]

In the building.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

Sure.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Maybe on the floor. Yeah. Anyway, I guess he's good. And then he said he just talked to Crusoe. All Crusoe wanted to talk about was golf. Trico's trying to ask him about the Western Conference finals. He's like, ah, no. What type of clubs are you using, man?

[Tas Melas]

Also in the building manager nobly. And this made me think of when Nikola Topic took the floor for the OKC Thunder. Both men have had testicular surgery. Two men who've had testicular surgery in the same arena during an NBA game. Not sure it's been done before other than games three and four.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, but. But Topic made it on.

[Tas Melas]

He did make it on the floor. The other guy was batting bats. He wasn't batting bats, but, you know.

[Jay Skeets]

Anything else?

[Trey Kirby]

There was a clip. They found an alternate angle of Wemby talking to Mason Plumlee.

[Jay Skeets]

They did?

[Tas Melas]

Oh, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Hard files. That's what he says.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

And they went out and hard filed.

[Jay Skeets]

They absolutely did.

[Trey Kirby]

They're like, literally called in a hit. Yeah, they got it on camera. I bet I'll get fined for this. Just kidding. Getting fined. That's hilarious.

[Tas Melas]

But they made it a flagrant foul.

[Jay Skeets]

They did. They did upgrade it to a flagrant.

[Trey Kirby]

So he gets fined, he gets fine.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, wouldn't be better pay for that.

[Tas Melas]

Deflate. Hold on. A fine for a flag.

[Trey Kirby]

Assume it's associated.

[Jay Skeets]

I sort of think it might be, but I don't know. No, no. Okay. Yeah, yeah, but he did that upgraded. People were joking that SGA was going to start game six with a free throw. Did you see that?

[Tas Melas]

Only three.

[Jay Skeets]

Only three. I know. Game seven. I got Some trivia for you guys. I just saw this by way of Zach Harper, our guy. Top 5 scoring game sevens by a player are want to take a crack at it. Jason Tatum, 51 in 2023. Stick with that. Year. That's your second hint. Stick with that.

[Trey Kirby]

2023.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tas Melas]

It's a nugget, right? No, no, no.

[Trey Kirby]

Jimmy Nuggets.

[Tas Melas]

No, no Nuggets. Not a Jimmy.

[Trey Kirby]

2023. Who else would have been in the playoffs doing good back then?

[Tas Melas]

You know Wolf? No, no.

[Jay Skeets]

Steph Curry.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, he had a 50 burger against Sacramento.

[Jay Skeets]

That is correct. I'll give you the other ones on this one. Kevin Durant had 48 in 2021. Sam Jones with 47 back in 1963. Yeah, that's a hell of a lot of points in 1963. Sam Jones. Dominique Wilkins scored 47 in 1988 in game seven. Rebounds in a game seven. Who had the most ever? Don't overthink it. 40. That's right. This is fun. Game seven assist record 20. Who has it?

[Trey Kirby]

An applesauce rondo.

[Jay Skeets]

No.

[Tas Melas]

20 assists.

[Jay Skeets]

You gotta go back to. It's probably happened in the 80s or 90s.

[Tas Melas]

Chris Doohan. Just kidding.

[Trey Kirby]

Johnny.

[Jay Skeets]

Johnny Stockton.

[Trey Kirby]

Johnny Stockton.

[Jay Skeets]

Now record for game seven blocks is seven. Hey, could it be broken in game seven from Wembley? Yeah, maybe they don't want to shoot around them wisely. So maybe not. But can you name any of the three guys that had seven blocks in a game seven?

[Trey Kirby]

Bill Russell. No, I didn't count blocks for the.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. So 77 onwards. I guess when they started counting it.

[Tas Melas]

Dikembe.

[Jay Skeets]

Dikembe is the one I thought you would get 2001. He had a game 77 block box score. Elvin Hayes in 79, Caldwell Jones in 77.

[Trey Kirby]

Caldwell Jones was on the tip of my tongue.

[Tas Melas]

I couldn't get it out.

[Jay Skeets]

Three pointers made in a game seven Pretty recent. The two guys. Williams. Nope. Okay. These two guys hit nine.

[Trey Kirby]

Tatum.

[Tas Melas]

No.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Clay.

[Tas Melas]

Clay.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, no. Wow. Yeah. But there's a Warrior player.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, Warrior player.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Jordan Poole.

[Jay Skeets]

I think he did it for the warriors. Kd? No, he's got. He has three nicknames.

[Trey Kirby]

Buddy.

[Jay Skeets]

Buddy. Heels.

[Trey Kirby]

Buddy Heel.

[Jay Skeets]

Did he do that for a lot of buckets? Yeah. Didn't he hit a. Well, he hit nine threes. Was it for the Warriors?

[Trey Kirby]

He didn't because he only played last

[Jay Skeets]

year in the playoffs. He had an insane game with him.

[Trey Kirby]

Buddy.

[Jay Skeets]

Dante DiVincenzo also hit nine. Okay, and then. And we'll hope this is not a talking point. From game seven. But who holds the free throw attempt record in a game seven?

[Trey Kirby]

Kobe.

[Tas Melas]

No.

[Jay Skeets]

This is tough.

[Tas Melas]

That's what I would have guessed.

[Jay Skeets]

It's a Spurs player. Spurs legend.

[Trey Kirby]

George Gervin.

[Jay Skeets]

No.

[Tas Melas]

David Robinson? No. Timothy.

[Jay Skeets]

Timothy Duncan. 23 attempts in a game seven.

[Tas Melas]

Against who? I don't know.

[Jay Skeets]

I couldn't tell you. Anyway, keep your eye on that one.

[Tas Melas]

For that.

[Jay Skeets]

Keep your eye on that one. So what's most likely to be broken on Saturday night? Hey, maybe. Maybe points.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

You know, Wemby or sga. Performance of a lifetime. Hopefully not free throw attempts. And maybe blocks. Maybe blocks there. From Wendy. Thanks for playing.

[Trey Kirby]

You're welcome.

[Jay Skeets]

Let's take a break and when we come back, we've got some news regarding the Knicks and we'll talk about the NBA draft lottery reform. Don't go anywhere.

[Tas Melas]

This show is brought to you by FanDuel. The line for game seven. OKC, favored by three and a half at home. At first I thought it's got to be this first. They're gonna keep it super close, but it's. It's a good line. The Thunder Wind, they're probably gonna do it by four or more, right?

[Jay Skeets]

Hasn't it been three and a half like every game here? Like bouncing back and forth? I swear it has been a lot of similar lines. That type of line. Oh, and then they're just blowouts.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

When has it been covered? Wasn't even covered. Well, the spurs covered it on the road in OKC for game one. Overtime covers. Nobody wants those.

[Jay Skeets]

You hate them.

[Tas Melas]

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[Jay Skeets]

All right, if you are just joining us, where were you at 1003 or 1004 when we went live? But thanks for joining us. Late hit. Hit the like button. Subscribe, podcast listeners. You've been here the whole time we love you. Five star ratings and reviews. This is some unfortunate news for Knicks fans. New York Knicks center Mitchell Robinson has a broken right pinky finger. And there is no timetable for his return. No, no, there is.

[Tas Melas]

He's playing game one.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, then. That's new.

[Tas Melas]

Seam sent the tweets.

[Trey Kirby]

Yep.

[Jay Skeets]

When did he do that?

[Tas Melas]

9:15am this morning or earlier? I don't know. Somewhere around there.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Melas]

He is playing in game one. This is the stuff of NBA Finals lore. He is playing with a brace on that hand because he had surgery on that pinky. He's undergone surgery according to Sham Sharanya.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Melas]

And he's playing with the brace ready to go in game one.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. How did he suffer this injury?

[Tas Melas]

I don't know.

[Trey Kirby]

Pinkies break pretty easily. Oh, bad high five. Hit it on the backboard, hit it on the rim. Like get caught in a jersey at practice? Like a broken pinky. Happens all the time.

[Jay Skeets]

I just want to know if he did it in a game or he got his pinky stuck in his monster truck door. Too big. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, that would hurt. But if there's any guy in the the NBA that I think can play with a brace on his shooting hand, it is Mitchell Robinson. I don't think it's going to change his game at all.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, maybe he will go underhand on the free throws.

[Jay Skeets]

Now, I did think that with a

[Tas Melas]

big brace on that shooting hand, maybe that's his excuse to go underhand. Yeah. It doesn't. No report on where it happened. Okay, it does happen. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

I. I think there's a potential here for some sort of basketball version of Rookie of the Year, the movie from 1993, where he breaks his pinky and he brings his pinky and he's suddenly a better free throw shooter.

[Trey Kirby]

See, that'd be good.

[Jay Skeets]

That would be fun. We can make a movie out of that.

[Trey Kirby]

Switch to his left hand. How about that? Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

There you go. Okay. So he's playing.

[Tas Melas]

Yep.

[Jay Skeets]

He's important. So that's good.

[Trey Kirby]

He is. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Fully plans to play.

[Jay Skeets]

The Knicks, by the way, are going to be facing a playoff opponent coming off a game seven for the third straight series here. And like now, their last two have been sweeps, too, so that's pretty wild. I think that's a first. It's incredible when you think about it.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I don't think they're going to sweep the finals, personally. Just getting out there. No getting it out there. But look, if I'm a Knicks fan, I'm thinking this is the year we better Win it. They're very healthy outside of Mitchell. Robinson breaking his pinky. OG's playing. Bridges is out there. Towns is out there. Brunson made it through the Eastern Conference pretty healthy. The Thunder already have won a championship. They might get a second one. Spurs are trying to win their first championship. These are young teams, but the Knicks are in their prime. It's almost now or never, it feels like to me, for New York. So we'll see if they're able to pull it off.

[Jay Skeets]

And we're going to have on Saturday night our fifth game seven of the postseason, which ties the record for most in a postseason in playoff history. Yeah, happened in 94, 2014 and 2016. Five series going to seven games sounds

[Tas Melas]

low because I thought that 2016 one

[Jay Skeets]

was it 1414 where they were all first round. All first round, yeah.

[Tas Melas]

That's why it sounded low.

[Jay Skeets]

Yep. So I bring that up. Maybe the NBA Finals gives us the record breaking sixth Game seven of the postseason.

[Trey Kirby]

I would love that.

[Jay Skeets]

We could only hope. We can only hope.

[Trey Kirby]

We traded wedgies for game sevens.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

We really trade, honestly.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Totally beyond. Beyond fair.

[Jay Skeets]

Especially because we set the record already in the regular season. Yeah. All right, let's get into this. Big news from yesterday. The NBA's board of governors approved draft lottery reform. On Thursday, the new rules were passed by a 29 to 1 vote with the Grizzlies as the lone dissenters. We'll explain why in a second. I think they had a fair reason to vote for no. But the proposal chosen was dubbed the three two one model and it includes the following changes. We've gone over some of this, but I think it's important for those trying to make sense of this new draft lottery. Okay. The lottery will feature 37 total lottery balls allocated to 16 teams. And we have a great graphic here by our friends from the Athletic to sort of like wrap your head around. It makes a little sense using records from this year. So the three worst teams in the league, they're going to get two ping pong balls. The next seven teams to miss the postseason each receive three. The number nine and number ten seeds in each conference receive two. And the losers of the seven eight plan game receive one. Couple other rules here. All spots in the lottery will be drawn as opposed to just the top four. So we are drafting for all 16 slots. But the three worst teams in the NBA can pick no lower than number 12. But it is insane this relegation zone where you get actually a fewer pung balls. You could have the worst record in the League and be picking 12th.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Is where we could be looking at here. Pretty insane. Teams can no longer pick number one in consecutive drafts starting with this draft. And teams cannot pick in the top five of three consecutive drafts backdated to the 2025 draft. Also, picks between number 12 and 15 cannot be protected in trades. That was a lot of information. A lot we already knew. Maybe some tweaks here and there, but they did vote for this. And we're gonna see this next year 2027 draft task and we're gonna watch it live.

[Tas Melas]

We've got to be watching.

[Jay Skeets]

Watching it live.

[Tas Melas]

Can you imagine the. The person, the presenter presenting those lottery balls? Somebody fun can do that. I know we. We talked about it yesterday with. With the. As I called it, the geekify it. To have everybody who knows these. You want an amount of lottery balls.

[Jay Skeets]

Windhorst.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

And maybe Kornacki and a Bobby Marsh.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. The experience that's been in that lottery room. And also people who know the numbers. That was a part of it. But as. As you brought up the numbers, somebody cool who could present the amount of lottery balls within. Not a magician. Not a magician.

[Jay Skeets]

That's what you did do. You did a very magician.

[Tas Melas]

Like, that's. That's where my brain went. So it's my. My favorite magician, Valentino. You may not know who he is, but he taught me the. He taught me behind the scenes.

[Jay Skeets]

What?

[Tas Melas]

But you don't want him.

[Jay Skeets]

Hold on.

[Tas Melas]

What do you t. What do you

[Jay Skeets]

mean he taught you behind. You get magic tricks from Valentino?

[Tas Melas]

No, the Valentino was. The guy. Was the guy who shows you how these magician. How these tricks work on a documentary.

[Jay Skeets]

Banish him. What's he doing?

[Tas Melas]

Well, he had to do what he had to do to make some money back and don't have this guy whenever it was filmed. Either way. Are we looking at the Grizzlies thing is interesting why they're so angry. Because.

[Trey Kirby]

Valid reason to vote against it.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Explain it. Go ahead.

[Tas Melas]

Well, as you said, you can't have top five pick in three years in a row.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

So they had one last or this coming year. They had one this coming year in 26 draft. That's it.

[Jay Skeets]

Now the thing is, because it's the Utah Jazz pick, so the Grizzlies cannot have a top five pick next season with the pick they own from the Utah Jazz through the Jaren Jackson trade.

[Tas Melas]

So they can't have somebody else's pick.

[Jay Skeets]

Exactly. Because The Jazz drafted fifth in 2025. They're picking second this year in 2026.

[Trey Kirby]

So that's not bad.

[Tas Melas]

That's not the Grizzlies pick.

[Jay Skeets]

It's not. I didn't say it was.

[JD (Super Producer)]

I know, I know.

[Tas Melas]

That's what. That's what makes it.

[Jay Skeets]

But it makes the pick they traded for, so it makes it even worse.

[Tas Melas]

That's what makes it frustrating, though. It's not their pick.

[Jay Skeets]

I agree. They are. They are essentially getting punished for Utah's tanking with the new rules. That's an insane decision by the league here.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. John Hollingen talked to, I think, Evan Wash at the league office, who basically explained. They're like, we talked about all this.

[Tas Melas]

Right.

[Trey Kirby]

Specifically this Memphis pick. And basically, if they grandfather this pick and allow the Grizzlies to be able to draft high based on where the Jazz end up, that pick becomes the most valuable pick in the entire pick landscape out there. So, like, that's unfair to every other team. Not to mention if we throw out this blah, blah, blah. There was a lot of rigamarole around it, but at least the way they explained it, you're like, that makes more sense than when you just realize that the Grizzlies traded away a franchise cornerstone for a top five pick and now they're not going to be able to use it. That seems brutal. But at least their explanation. I saw where they were coming from. I wouldn't be happy if I'm a Grizzly fan.

[Tas Melas]

No.

[Jay Skeets]

And guess what? This would not have been going through. I feel like if this was a. A marquee franchise with this situation. A Lakers, a Celtics. Come on. No way. This is because it's. The Grizzlies are like, shut up. Who cares? Whatever. Brutal. That's brutal to me.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

So weird. They didn't need to do that. I get their explanation. I'm with you, TK But I don't know with that one, I think they could have said, okay, they did trade for that when the rules were in place. Part of the Jaren Jackson trade. Who else are the big winners and losers from this, in your opinion?

[Trey Kirby]

Thunder and Spurs.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

They built dynasties, and now there's no way to build a dynasty. So they're looking good. Not to mention the stockpile of picks that they have going forward are all these teams that are gonna end up right in the middle, and that's the picks you want to have. You don't want to have the worst teams in the league picks. You want to have a pick from a team like the Bulls that always tries to win 40 games and somehow Looks into a lottery appearance. So I think this is great for both the Thunder and the Spurs. I mean, the spurs are sort of the reason they put in the. You can't draft top five three years in a row. So they got to draft three studs three years in a row, and now no team will be able to do that. This is great for the two teams that are the best in the league.

[Jay Skeets]

I would agree with that. Not only because of the picks they've accumulated, but also it's the picks the other teams will not get to accumulate because of the rules now in place. So that's good for teams like the spurs and Thunder that are good teams with a whole bunch of draft capital and are going to have a whole bunch of chances, obviously, to hit with these flattened odds or these different odds being sort of leveled out here because they got a whole lot of these other teams that are bad picks. So. My God.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know. I think the worry here is the league was overreacting. That's what we're getting at with what happened here. And like, nine teams tanking this year because of this loaded draft class. And they were like, oh, boy, there's so much talk about it. Have they made just, like, new problems for themselves here? I mean, it's going to unfold how it unfolds, and obviously the lottery will play a part in it. But I don't know, man. It does seem to make it tougher for the league's worst teams to escape the bottom, too. It could. It could.

[Trey Kirby]

Definitely.

[Jay Skeets]

And it's like. And I don't. I know Silver's pushback on that and it's fair. Is like there are other ways to build teams than just through the draft. Well, yeah, but also you've made that more difficult.

[Trey Kirby]

Exactly. The team now.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

So.

[Tas Melas]

But you still can have the top five pick two years in a row. Like, you can still have good picks.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

They just changed the weight to make sure that people aren't losing as much in hopes. In hopes of losing more. That's the idea of. At the end of the year, it's game 75. We don't want to be one of these bottom three teams.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Because his hope is going to be the teams that are currently, when this season unfolds next year that are in the bottom three, that they're going to be trying their asses off to win games when we get to February and March and April to get out of said bottom three.

[Tas Melas]

Because then you're.

[Jay Skeets]

That's. That's what he is thinking is going to work because.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, 4th, 4th to 10th worst team still have an 8%.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

That's where you want to be.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. So you still have a chance, but you just can't be bad forever. You can't. You can't pull the. The process as with the Sixers. You can't pull an OKC to be bad for a long period of time. They're trying to shorten that. Shorten that span.

[Jay Skeets]

What do you think this does for, like, trading draft picks? Does this make in your mind these picks more valuable or the opposite? I can't decide.

[Trey Kirby]

See, I think this. Another loser I had was podcasters because I think the trade deadline is going to be brutal. Now, think about a team like I'm thinking about the Bulls. They've made a million moves to get bad this year at the trade deadline. Right. They traded Vuch to the Celtics. They traded Kobe White to the Hornets. Desuma went to the Timberwolves. Herder went to the Pistons. If you're trying to stay in the middle, probably keep all those guys.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

You know, which means fewer and fewer trades because you want to hold onto your picks. Because now if you're in the middle, you got a better shot of jumping up. Yeah, I think it's going to ruin the trade deadline, actually.

[Jay Skeets]

Could be an issue.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, a little bit. I mean, you still win games. These guys, these teams, like the. The Stinky Jazz, I mean, they're still winning games at the end of the season. They just. But they do want to have their best players on the floor.

[Trey Kirby]

Exactly. That's the thing, is that the NBA, when the eyes finally turn to the NBA, is when the super bowl is over. And that's when so many teams shut down and don't care to win. And that's why this has.

[Jay Skeets]

Because they're incentivized.

[Trey Kirby]

Exactly. But now they're incentivized less. Well, like, I think we'll have a. We won't have any teams under 20 wins next year. You know, I think we'll have fewer brutal teams, more mediocre teams.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Better fourth quarters. Better fourth quarters. Instead of guys. Instead of teams saying, huh, you guys sit for the fourth quarter. You know, Will Hardy pulled guys for the fourth quarter. The Memphis Grizzlies pulled guys for the fourth quarter again.

[Jay Skeets]

Again. Like, instead of doing all of these drastic changes, though, some people were like, well, yeah, look at the 27, 28 draft classes. For the most part, they are not ripe with franchise changing players. Again, we're not draft Experts and things change. I get that. But like, the point being this, this, those draft classes maybe would have curbed the drastic tanking that we saw this year because of said loaded draft. That's what I kept saying. I think I truly believe that, that this was a bit of an anomaly. It was ugly, wasn't great. But I don't think it's a continuing thing every year depending on the draft class. So. But anyway, they're doing it and it's happening and it's going to be televised and there's going to be a magic man pulling these lottery balls if Taske gets his way.

[Tas Melas]

No, they can't. They can't use Imagine.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay?

[Tas Melas]

They cannot. They just are going to have a presenter come to present the odds. As many as, as much as there's going to be a Kornacki, a Hollinger, whoever. There just has to be someone with the ability to be on tv. That's all I'm asking for. Nothing beyond that but that, you know, those people will be there. Givoni, he'll be there. I think. Okay, you know, those type of people. But again, I don't know this. I think this is still better than the 8% odds in that idea. The 8% odds for every team in the bottom 10. I think it's better than that.

[Trey Kirby]

I think there's parts to like about this, but I also think the NBA knows this is not a perfect solution because they're like, if this doesn't work, we'll change it again in three years.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, that's true.

[Trey Kirby]

So, yeah, they got. They're trying something. It was a black mark on the league this year for sure. So Adam Silver is a reactive guy.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, the other thing included in this vote, at least from the 29, is that silver will have increased powers to punish perceived tanking, including altering lottery odds, changing where a team picks and fines up to $10 million. See, to me, that may have been enough. If they had voted on that and they gave them all the power in the world to really drop the hammer on the blatant tanking, the sitting guys in fourth quarters and not having them in the lineup all star level player. I mean, I don't know. I think that could have done it as well. That's my opinion on that. I have stuck with that, but I guess he now has that at least.

[Tas Melas]

What was it, a $10 million fee. Where would the other.

[Jay Skeets]

To literally take pics away.

[Tas Melas]

Take pics away.

[Jay Skeets]

Put like you're not. You're not picking top three. You're doing all this, like, it's a lot of power. And I get that that's scary, but it is. If the whole thing is he wants to try and save these black marks on the league, then he has to, like, sometimes do the old David Stern, like, move and, like. Yeah, okay. It's going to be unfortunate. If you think they were really skirting the rules and this is bad for the league and bad for the sport, then punish them and it will stop in a heartbeat. I think so. But anyway, he has the power now. Along with this. Power. Yeah, along with this.

[Trey Kirby]

You think it's a Masters of the Universe tie. He has the power now.

[Jay Skeets]

How about he's sort of skeletor a little bit.

[Trey Kirby]

He's more of a skeletor than a human. Would you be okay if Adam Silver was just like, you know what? I'm setting the drafted order. Every year I pick who gets 1 through 16.

[Jay Skeets]

Sign me up.

[Trey Kirby]

Yep.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Rig it. Have a magic man pull these lottery balls.

[Trey Kirby]

Have a magic.

[Jay Skeets]

Have Silver tell them. Yeah, hey, give it to the Bulls. Give it to said team, whatever. Oh, no, I don't care.

[Trey Kirby]

I think it'd be good this year. Sacramento, it's your time.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

You've been waiting too long.

[Tas Melas]

I don't want to see a magic man. I don't want to see Penn and Teller. I don't want to see Dua Lipa singing Houdini. I don't want that at all. That would be bad.

[Jay Skeets]

All right.

[Trey Kirby]

I would watch her singing.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, sure. Of course. Great performer.

[Jay Skeets]

All right, well, look, we're just going to see the repercussions of this. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. But we'll see it in 2027.

[Trey Kirby]

It is quick.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

And the second round changed up, huh?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

They're like reverse ordering the second round, where whoever got. I think the 16th pick will get the 31st pick of the second round. Like the number one pick of the second round.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, I guess you are. I did sort of gloss over that. That is what they said. That's sort of. That's not nothing.

[Trey Kirby]

Missing the play in is the place you want to be right now.

[Jay Skeets]

Well, this is going to be the concern. I can't wait for us to be like, whoa, no, what have we done now? Teams are purposely missing the play in. Oh, what about the playoff gate money? They don't care. They'd have a better chance at a number one.

[Trey Kirby]

Missing the plan like this is ridiculous. As a Bulls fan, they should have came up with this years ago.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

That's all they do is getting into the playhead and lose.

[Jay Skeets]

You still thinking about magic? How do they do?

[Tas Melas]

You're swinging us to the next segment.

[Jay Skeets]

All right.

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[Jay Skeets]

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[Jay Skeets]

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[Tas Melas]

For you. Lawrence.

[Jay Skeets]

I love you, Lawrence, but which one is he sponsoring? Fire or low boy?

[Tas Melas]

I know he put it on his comment on the YouTube stream.

[Jay Skeets]

Gotcha.

[Tas Melas]

Just straight up Rapid Fire sponsor. All right, in the middle here.

[Jay Skeets]

You get them both. You get them both here today, Lawrence. It's a two for one. Wemby gets it 28 points in game six. 10 out of 21. Four or nine from deep 10 boards. I like that he hit the glass early. We didn't bring that up. I mean, he had a lot of those rebounds early in this game. Two dimes, two steals, three blocks all in 28 minutes. Victor Wembanyama. Congrats to him.

[Trey Kirby]

Fresh cut.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Coming through.

[Jay Skeets]

Indeed. Indeed. All right. It is the drop. It's Friday. We will have a podcast tomorrow. Night. Yeah, Tomorrow's Saturday.

[Tas Melas]

Wow.

[Jay Skeets]

Game seven, baby. That's going to be fun. We'll do a live watch party here in the factory. Game starts at 8:15. They put it on the graphic test.

[Tas Melas]

Interesting.

[Jay Skeets]

You do love that. That is a nice little note there.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Starting a little earlier than these weekday games.

[Tas Melas]

No rush.

[Jay Skeets]

No, we'll be live.

[Tas Melas]

You don't have to rush to get there for 8pm no, but we'll probably

[Jay Skeets]

be here around 8pm yeah. So come. We got to order.

[Tas Melas]

We got ads.

[Jay Skeets]

Mellow mushroom.

[Trey Kirby]

Yep.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, we're ordering pizza.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, this is. Yeah, this is a no ads show from 8 to 8:15. Unlike the broadcast. Other than a mellow mushroom, I guess.

[Jay Skeets]

Carmelo mushroom. So that's tomorrow. That's tomorrow night. And then we'll do immediate reaction podcasts again here from the factory. But this is Friday. This is the drop. This is rapid fire time. Trey, you got the questions? We got the answers.

[Trey Kirby]

Chess grandmaster Magnus Carlson made NBA waves earlier this week for calling out the league pass app. The young genius said, we have one of the best series in years going on right now in the Western Conference finals. And when people have no spoilers on in the app, they expect no spoilers. So do better. Sounds like we got ourselves a complainted area, guys. What is a complaint you have? That has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

[Jay Skeets]

Why don't drivers use their turn signals? What the is going on?

[Trey Kirby]

Welcome to Atlanta.

[JD (Super Producer)]

What is.

[Jay Skeets]

It's insane to me.

[Tas Melas]

No.

[Jay Skeets]

You have to be the laziest person of all time to not be able to do that.

[Tas Melas]

Just that.

[Jay Skeets]

Just to let us know where you're going. It helps. It actually helps. It's baffling. Yeah, it's a. It's an Atlanta thing for sure, but I feel like it's a pandemic across the. Across the country.

[Tas Melas]

You use your pinky when you're tapping your turn signal.

[Jay Skeets]

You know what I mean? It's right there, Tass. It's right there.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Oh, the driver wants to be sleek and cool. Now if it's impacting others.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Do you see turn signals on a race car track?

[JD (Super Producer)]

It's not a race car track, man.

[Jay Skeets]

Hey, man, sounds like you don't use turn signals.

[Tas Melas]

No, I'm not advocating for people who are affected affecting other drivers. Absolutely not. But jt, you love getting behind the wheel. You love your stick shift. Don't you love. Don't you love being able to turn off the signal and just. And just merge? I Mean, as long as you're not affecting anybody.

[JD (Super Producer)]

If there's no one around, sometimes I won't. You're right. You're right.

[Jay Skeets]

If there's no one around, that's bad. Because that creates a bad habit. Hey, just do it.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

You are who you are when nobody's watching.

[Jay Skeets]

That's right.

[Trey Kirby]

Even on the road. So, Chaz, it sounds like you're telling me when you see somebody switch lanes or turn without their signal, you're like,

[Tas Melas]

ooh, I want to get to know your name. It all depends. It all depends. It all depends on the matter, how

[Trey Kirby]

cool they do it.

[Jay Skeets]

But I will say, once you have come over to your lane, you can turn it off. That's another thing that drives me nuts. Turn it off.

[Tas Melas]

Off.

[Jay Skeets]

Turn it off.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, I love the person. I guess I love myself because I love doing this. But when you're changing two lanes, I will go into that first lane and turn it off and then turn it back on.

[Jay Skeets]

That's nice. Driving test.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Intentional.

[Jay Skeets]

That's really why you're the best driver I know.

[Tas Melas]

It is intentional.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Danielle will see me doing. She's like, what are you doing that for the people who need to know you from behind. Well, they need to know that I've made one lane.

[Jay Skeets]

That's right.

[Tas Melas]

And then a second one.

[Jay Skeets]

That's right. Very nice.

[Trey Kirby]

One complete. Commence lane change.

[Jay Skeets]

Two.

[JD (Super Producer)]

It's speaking. You're compensating for other people's bad habits because. Exactly what you said, Skeets. Like, they'll leave it on.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Tess is like, I gotta let the guy know behind me that I'm actually going again.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, that's it.

[Tas Melas]

I think it's a good move.

[JD (Super Producer)]

It is.

[Jay Skeets]

It is.

[JD (Super Producer)]

It's a great move.

[Tas Melas]

Thank you. I'm gonna write to all my friends. That was not part of my answer here, Trey. No, but I have a complaint for taking off a shirt when I actually just can't get it off. I hate that. Especially after workouts, you know, you can't. They can't rip it off. Oh, gosh.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, that's a bad feeling now.

[Tas Melas]

10,000 athletic apparel. They do a good job. The polyester. I don't know. This is not an ad. But somehow the polyester there does slide off pretty well.

[Trey Kirby]

Slidey.

[Tas Melas]

But I'm just not flexible enough. Not good enough to rip something off my back. Very well. It happens too often.

[Jay Skeets]

Why the hell are you wearing a shirt, big guy? You don't need it.

[Tas Melas]

Do you want me to show my fl. Just cuz I'VE been to the gym once. Doesn't mean I. I every day. God, no, I can't. I wish I could. I got to do a freaking show. If I didn't have to do a show, I'd be there. With all goddamn shows getting in the

[Jay Skeets]

way, There goes the day.

[Tas Melas]

I'm not a noon man. I need to do it in the morning.

[JD (Super Producer)]

I'm with you.

[Tas Melas]

Once it hits noon.

[Jay Skeets]

That's tough. That's much more tough.

[Tas Melas]

10,000 steps.

[Jay Skeets]

Get out of here.

[Tas Melas]

Not gonna happen.

[Jay Skeets]

Gotta use your turn signal on the way to the gym.

[Tas Melas]

I count my steps walking to the car to get in my car. Good. Seven.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, well, 14. When did you walk back in? Only 9,986 degrees. Go, J.D. what are you complaining about?

[JD (Super Producer)]

Yeah, my algorithm needs to calm down, man. I mentioned a few months back that I was being inundated by women on mechanical bulls. Remember that? It's just. They were just. I. I lingered on one time, just one time.

[Jay Skeets]

I wanted to see if she'd get bucked, okay?

[JD (Super Producer)]

And then the Survivor 50 just ended. And all the cast got together, wherever they were. They all went to a Western bar, and my girl Camilla got on a mechanical bill. You bet your ass. I watched that video because it was Camila. It was hilarious.

[Jay Skeets]

But now the algorithm's like, oh, this

[JD (Super Producer)]

guy did mechanical bills again.

[Jay Skeets]

This guy loves me.

[JD (Super Producer)]

This guy loves a mechanical bull.

[Jay Skeets]

A woman on a mechanical.

[JD (Super Producer)]

That's all. Women, too, of course.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. What a shot.

[JD (Super Producer)]

It's just like, algorithm. Please, listen to me. Look, for once, listen to me. I don't need to. To see women on mechanical bulls, okay?

[Jay Skeets]

Stop saying mechanical bulls. That's what. It's all it's picking up.

[JD (Super Producer)]

I'm saying I don't want to see it.

[Tas Melas]

Doesn't realize I hate bulls,

[JD (Super Producer)]

especially the mechanical kind. Get them out of here.

[Tas Melas]

But that. I can understand why that. That ropes you in, no pun intended, with cows. But. But because it's. It's immediate and it's good right off the bat, right? Yeah.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Someone flying off of a bull. It's fun to watch people falling down is what I want to see. People falling down.

[Tas Melas]

I mean, it's giving you what you want.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Exactly. I guess. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Just too many. Now,

[Tas Melas]

these are metal bulls, right?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Yeah.

[JD (Super Producer)]

They're in, like, 100. In a Western bar somewhere.

[Tas Melas]

Does anybody really hurt themselves?

[JD (Super Producer)]

The thing barely moves and people fall off.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. These videos suck.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

That's. What you're upset.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Maybe if they were better.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

You want a little bit of writing?

[Jay Skeets]

Before falling off.

[JD (Super Producer)]

That's right.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Sounds like we need to re upload Tassa riding the mechanical bull.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. That could be a good certified classic. Wait, we. Did we make that one?

[Trey Kirby]

I think we've done Extreme Horse.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. We did play that full.

[Trey Kirby]

But we want to target this algorithm specifically, so we're just going with the bull riding part.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, I'm a tame beast. That's.

[Tas Melas]

The. The actual riding of the bull wasn't incredible video. Right. Like, I had to speed it up.

[Jay Skeets]

It was not very good. That part. But you guys saved it. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

But I would say that's a. That's a metal. I don't know if it's aluminum. That's a strong ass bowl that caused many concussions. I would say.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. The one you rode.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, that was in a. A huge country bar. Oh, gosh.

[Tas Melas]

There was so much line dance. Line dancing for miles. I mean, it was a factory. It felt like an industrial warehouse.

[Jay Skeets]

It was huge. It was. Where were we?

[JD (Super Producer)]

San Antonio.

[Jay Skeets]

San Antonio. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[JD (Super Producer)]

We've never put that much effort into literally anything we've ever done before. From the costumes. Costumes to like an entire morning shooting Extreme Horse.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[JD (Super Producer)]

To that night, literally 12 hours later. You guys, full regalia. Costumed up. Walking through this that. We heard they had a mechanical bowl for some reason.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[JD (Super Producer)]

And it was the only reason we went there.

[Tas Melas]

Started with breakfast burritos.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah.

[Tas Melas]

From Ben Hunt. Yeah. That was a good.

[Jay Skeets]

The one thing we didn't put a lot of. A lot of thought into is maybe the actual shots we were doing. We were coming up with those on the spot. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

And it was kind of dark on that bull. And we didn't get any shots of line dancing. No, not that. I don't think anybody did line dancing from us. Anybody do a line dance?

[Jay Skeets]

I don't think so.

[Trey Kirby]

We gotta go back.

[Jay Skeets]

I feel like nobody even, like, acknowledged us. Like, we were dressed insane.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, there's.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

These guys are really into this, right?

[JD (Super Producer)]

Yeah, 100%.

[Trey Kirby]

And remember the. The costume store people? That was awesome. We could have made a show out of those people.

[Jay Skeets]

I remember thinking, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We were like, even. Like, they should have a reality show. These people in this costume. All right, next one.

[Trey Kirby]

Good first question. Kristen Winfield. Nick's beat Repiter. Beat Repliter. Nick's beat writer slash beat reporter for the New York Daily News. He showed up to a game for a press conference with a bucket of chicken wings. And on Washington, almost immediately zing from the podium by Josh Hart. Guys, when is a time and place you were eating when you shouldn't have been eating?

[Jay Skeets]

On last night's Watch party livestream, I inhaled a bowl of Honey Nut Cheerios. Oh, but this is like next level answering in rapid fire here. All day long, I couldn't think of an answer to this. So I said, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to make sure I eat a bowl of cereal tonight on a live stream so the next day I can use that as my answer.

[Tas Melas]

That's smart.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know. Has that ever been done before? That was really great. Yeah, that's great. I didn't even want to eat that bowl of cereal last night. I mean, I still gobbled it up. You sold me.

[Trey Kirby]

I didn't know this was all acting.

[Jay Skeets]

I'm a great actor.

[Trey Kirby]

This guy's loving this serial.

[Tas Melas]

I'm sold, man. I want to go buy some HNCs right now.

[Jay Skeets]

You like HNC? Of course. God. One of the best cereals ever made.

[Trey Kirby]

It might be number one.

[Jay Skeets]

It is number one.

[Trey Kirby]

Likes that Honey Nut Cheerio. Like, it's not my number one, but it's on my Mount Rushmore.

[Tas Melas]

So good. Yeah, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

And yeah. There was talk of how quickly I eat a bowl of cereal. I do. It's a bit of a condition. Nora has brought it up many times. Like, breathe. Would you breathe when you eat a bowl of cereal? I just. Just straight shoveling Michael Rapaport style. Like I'm on the Traders. They were saying in the the Stream team last night, oh, yeah, Josh, I. I eat it so quick. I love it.

[Trey Kirby]

And he didn't even want it.

[Jay Skeets]

I didn't even even want it. I was full. I was full.

[Trey Kirby]

He was doing it for.

[Jay Skeets]

I did it for this moment. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

I too, did not have an answer for this for all day long. So I'm going off the board here. I'm going with these Trader Joe's gummy

[JD (Super Producer)]

worms and the ad man today,

[Trey Kirby]

it's

[Tas Melas]

actually not a good ad because the dietary fiber in these things is what I'm pointing out. 14 grams of fiber. There's been many stories of people online saying, I ate these things and I was on the toilet.

[Jay Skeets]

Really?

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Let's either crack them open.

[Tas Melas]

The number one ingredient is resistant tapioca dextrin fiber. 14 grams of fiber. That's 50 of your fiber.

[Jay Skeets]

Do you have a lot of fiber? One or the packet?

[Tas Melas]

Eight pieces.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. Serving a.

[Trey Kirby]

Serving a gram of fiber.

[Tas Melas]

So feel free to get in here.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Have you Seen the, the viral video of the guy who eats a 10 pound bag of sugar free gummies?

[Tas Melas]

Yes.

[Jay Skeets]

And then he rides a mechanical bull.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, I wish you shared that this summer, I think. J.D.

[JD (Super Producer)]

did I. Yeah. Oh, as a pick and payoff.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You did.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, it was. It was actually in January. I remember where I was when I watched that video. I was in an airport. Oh. Yeah. So I was ready to go to the bathroom.

[Jay Skeets]

Felt like more tart than I thought it was going to be. Yeah, not bad.

[Trey Kirby]

Not bad.

[Tas Melas]

That's good.

[Jay Skeets]

Can't wait to it up.

[Tas Melas]

Can't believe how much fiber is in this thing.

[JD (Super Producer)]

How much weed is in there?

[Tas Melas]

Not a weed in sight.

[Jay Skeets]

Not enough. Okay. But hey, no sugar. Just fiber.

[Tas Melas]

Allulose.

[Trey Kirby]

Trader Joe's tapioca. JD When. When were you eating when you shouldn't have been eating?

[JD (Super Producer)]

I struggle with this too.

[Trey Kirby]

Sorry, bad question.

[Tas Melas]

It's surprising though. We've done TV for a long time. You thought like some weird chicken wings

[Trey Kirby]

into a movie theater.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know.

[JD (Super Producer)]

I mean.

[Jay Skeets]

No.

[Trey Kirby]

Never.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Sure.

[Jay Skeets]

Took chicken. Took chicken wings into a movie.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Not chicken wings, but taking food in there.

[Jay Skeets]

No.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[JD (Super Producer)]

I mean, look, I worked in restaurants, you know, growing up and stuff. So you're always sort of eating basically over a garbage can. Like, you know, we worked in tv. Worked at the control, like the, in the truck kind of thing. Like at the, the, you know, the control board board and stuff.

[Tas Melas]

Over those buttons.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. That's dangerous. What were you eating?

[Tas Melas]

Whatever.

[JD (Super Producer)]

I don't know.

[Tas Melas]

Whatever.

[JD (Super Producer)]

It was garbage. What's the, the hot bobby from. What was that place called?

[Trey Kirby]

Capriotti.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Capriotti.

[Tas Melas]

That's a saucy. That's a saucy sandwich. That's a risk.

[JD (Super Producer)]

It's a big risk.

[Tas Melas]

Very risky.

[JD (Super Producer)]

But, yeah, that's it, I guess. I don't know. I don't have a fun answer for this.

[Jay Skeets]

That's on me.

[Trey Kirby]

That one's on me.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Rachel said immediately. What about the toilet? Ever eat on the toilet? I'm like, no. Have you? Like, you know, sometimes.

[Jay Skeets]

That's a good. That would be a good answer. I'm trying to think of a time I've eaten on the toilet, though.

[Trey Kirby]

Have a couple more of these worms,

[Jay Skeets]

but then I gotta go eat them on the toilet. Like, keep, Keep it going.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Keep it going.

[Trey Kirby]

Keep it just flowing straight through.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Then we can ask this question again next week.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, that one's on me, guys.

[Jay Skeets]

Hey, man, we gotta.

[Trey Kirby]

My bad.

[Jay Skeets]

What are you talking about? We got to Talk about Honey nut Cheerios. These crazy gummy worms.

[Trey Kirby]

This is for you guys to show off with great answers. And I asked a bad one. It's on me. We're down to the nitty gritty in the NBA. Maximum eight games remain. Now that we got a bunch of nights with no games going on, what's something you're gonna finally get around to doing?

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, for my Canadians, I'm gonna fix an eaves trough. For my Americans, I'm gonna fix a gutter. That's my plan. I think during these torrential downpours, we've had storms over the last little bit. I think something. I think a big branch sort of dislodged one of my eavesdrops. One of my gutters. Depends where you live, what you call it. But I think it's off a little bit. It's quite high, though. But I got to get up there, and I think I can fix this one myself. I'm gonna give it a go at least. I'm gonna go assess it, get up there, try not to fall off the roof, and we'll see what I can do.

[Tas Melas]

Or you're gonna get on the roof?

[Jay Skeets]

Probably. Yeah. Well, tbd. It's quite high.

[Trey Kirby]

It's.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know if my ladder can reach it, so I might have to. My roof's not too. Too steep. I. I'm comfortable on a roof that's dancing around up there.

[Tas Melas]

That's the sound that was bothering you while you were doing a live stream or a podcast.

[Jay Skeets]

Little different. Little different. That was dripping in pipe, the gutter. So that was like rain had happened then in. The rain had stopped, and it was, like, right outside my office window. The drip. So it's dropping from the top gutter to the bottom of the gutter?

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

That's what's making the sound.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

So that's something different.

[JD (Super Producer)]

You couldn't hear it, though.

[Tas Melas]

No, you can hear.

[Jay Skeets]

I know. It was just driving me crazy.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. It's a weird thing during a storm. It's just one single drop happens off a shingle or off something that hits. It's hitting the ground by my house, and I just think, is there something wrong here? Yeah, I gotta fix something here. Gotta do something here. That's just a drip.

[Jay Skeets]

Just a drip.

[Tas Melas]

Just let it go, man. Just let it go. But it's great to get out there, get on, fix stuff.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. I got some roof work to do as well.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Unfortunately.

[Jay Skeets]

You want me to come over, dance on your roof?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, but I'll fix the roofing.

[Jay Skeets]

Doing Michael Jackson.

[Trey Kirby]

What Skeets over for? She's just dancing. I'll do the leave blowing, but it's fine. Tass, what are you getting up to?

[Tas Melas]

I'm just going to be able to flex my abs while I'm sitting because I'm not in shape. But I decided, you know how I'm gonna compensate for not being in shape? Just flexing while I'm sitting. And my terrible posture, flexing while I'm sitting. So that's what I'm gonna do. The thing that was actually on my list was the documentary about crypto that was in movie theaters, but now it's not in movie theaters, and I'm trying to watch it illegally, everywhere. Legally, I'm gonna pay for it. But you can't watch. You can't watch it legally. Can't watch it anywhere. It's the Ben McKenzie everyone is lying to you for money documentary about crypto. I just want my hands on it. I can't get my hands on it. Wow. Nowhere.

[Jay Skeets]

I didn't know this.

[Trey Kirby]

I never heard from the O.C.

[Jay Skeets]

yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Heard of this?

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, yeah. People say you're an actor. You don't know anything about crypto. He's got economics major he knows about. Yeah, yeah. Surprising, right? Thanks. Yeah, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Who would have guessed?

[Tas Melas]

It looks really good.

[Jay Skeets]

It just can't find it.

[Tas Melas]

Well, it was in theaters. Now it's not in theaters, and I can't buy it online. I don't know. They're. They're, you know, they'll figure it out.

[Trey Kirby]

Cool.

[Jay Skeets]

J.D.

[JD (Super Producer)]

yeah. We've been doing a purge around here, and we found a guitar.

[Jay Skeets]

Hey.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Which I kind of know chords and stuff, but. And I was thinking maybe I'd learn how to play it.

[Tas Melas]

Sweet. Oh, wow.

[Jay Skeets]

Good for you.

[Tas Melas]

I don't know.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know. But first Wonderwall ever.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Absolutely.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, it'll be the first song you play and learn. Where would you hope to be? Oh, I don't know.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Maybe I'll learn Stairway to Heaven finally.

[Tas Melas]

All right. The.

[JD (Super Producer)]

The one song nobody wants to hear.

[Trey Kirby]

I think it's time.

[JD (Super Producer)]

It's enough time has passed.

[Trey Kirby]

Totally.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[JD (Super Producer)]

It was like. The last time was Wayne's World, maybe when they. The sign. No. Stairway to Heaven. What was the other song in that? Was it just Stairway?

[Trey Kirby]

It was no Stairway, though. Just definitely the guitar shop scene, for sure.

[JD (Super Producer)]

But I think enough time has passed. That song is 40 years old. 45 years old. Yeah. I'm gonna learn. Stay. What happened that's what.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, There we go.

[Tas Melas]

I'm relearning piano as well.

[Jay Skeets]

I was just gonna ask you that. Yeah, I remember when that was a thing and then sort of fell off.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. That was a classic Covid thing. You got to do stuff during COVID I was playing it for a bit and stopped. Kids are relearning it, though, during the summer, so I'm, you know, playing along with them. So I'll learn piano. Trey, J.D. you guys both play guitar. You know, you give me. And then songs. Yeah. Are you drumming?

[Jay Skeets]

Are you. I can drum, sure.

[Tas Melas]

Sing a rhythm.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Have you seen me dance on a roof?

[Trey Kirby]

You're gonna be like a stuff.

[Jay Skeets]

JD Is a drummer.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

But you know what? I got it here.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Yeah. We should play some instruments. We're not. You don't usually play.

[Tas Melas]

Right, right, right.

[JD (Super Producer)]

But Jack is a very good drummer as well.

[Jay Skeets]

Your son. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Okay.

[JD (Super Producer)]

But we need somebody on bass. No one ever wants to play the bass.

[Trey Kirby]

I'll do the bass. I'll be the bass.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, I could see. Okay, there we go. We're starting to ban during these. During the down days of the NBA season rehearsal tonight. Yeah. Yeah. I did share some alpha on the live stream last night, too. I'll share it here for everybody. We will be doing a movie franchise rewatch this summer. We've had a lot of fun doing the Fast and Furious movies. That was a while ago, recapping every single one of those. And then we did Jurassic park last year. That was a blast. We've got a couple in the running movie franchises that we are going to actually probably make a show and pitch our cases for each of us to present our movie franchises. And the fans will vote on which one they want to see us tackle. That's the. That's the move right now. Get your votes so that we got a little bit of time, of course, but we'll eventually be having some fun this summer with a very weird movie franchise, I'm sure. Can't wait. Can't wait.

[Trey Kirby]

And our first EP will be dropping at the end of summer.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Wow.

[Jay Skeets]

We have a big summer. All right. That's rapid fire. Not so rapid. That's the drop. Hopefully a classic. But that's up to you to decide. And you decide that by hitting the like button, by subscribing, by sharing the show, by leaving us five star ratings and reviews, and by commenting away all weekend long. I'll say for the third time. We're back here tomorrow night, Saturday night around 8pm Eastern. We'll have a live watch party for game seven, baby, of the Western Conference Finals. We'll just be your second screen experience. We'll have a blast. You'll watch us eat pizza. Maybe we'll get the instruments out during commercial breaks. I don't know. I don't know.

[Trey Kirby]

Practice during breaks.

[Jay Skeets]

But then immediately following that, we'll have another feed and do an immediate reaction podcast to Game seven. And then on Monday, you know, NBA Finals previews and all that good stuff. So lots coming here over the next couple weeks, even though the basketball slows down. Very excited, though, for Game 7 in the NBA Finals. So we hope to see you tomorrow night. Till then, Clipper Bros.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Sorry.

[Jay Skeets]

That's all right.

[JD (Super Producer)]

They were. We were going to do Summer House.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, yeah.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Do it for first.

[Jay Skeets]

Do what? Summer House. Oh, yeah. Well, you made this fun graphic. So let's show this. Yesterday, Nora explained Summerhouse to jd, myself and all of our viewers and listeners. It's a lot of fun. We had a blast, actually talking about this insane show in the reunion show. We'll be doing parts two and three next week, so that's no bus. Link is in the show notes. I'll make sure it's there. Head on over. We usually do Survivor. We've done Traders before. We're just doing some fun summer house reunions. And Nora turns out it's a pretty good podcaster. She basically led it good. I'm like, ah, damn, she's better at me than this. I've done this for 20 years. She's done like eight podcasts. I'm like, ah, Jesus, she's better at this.

[Trey Kirby]

Can she dance on a roof?

[Jay Skeets]

No.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, there you go.

[Jay Skeets]

I've never even seen her on a roof. Never seen her on a ladder, Will. Yeah, I don't even. Sure. I've never seen her on a step ladder.

[Tas Melas]

She did. She was on. I saw her on a ladder.

[Jay Skeets]

You did?

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Nice memory. Wow, that's an incredible memory.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it was at my house.

[Jay Skeets]

But you only remember because you're like, never see that again.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Was she good at it? Being on a ladder?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

She fixed the light.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[JD (Super Producer)]

Get her on that roof, she's a

[Jay Skeets]

better podcaster, let me tell you. Let me tell you. Anyway, check that out. Clipper Rose, you heard it here first.

[Trey Kirby]

Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome.

[Tas Melas]

Thanks for joining us. And remember, join. Join us tomorrow when we'll be eating. Think about this Burger King throwing it out there. No, because we talked about it. I thought we talked about It. Yeah, I'm fine.

[Jay Skeets]

Why do you want to do Burger King?

[Tas Melas]

I thought we talked about it. Maybe I just talked about it with others, and rdub6592 brought it up as well. I'm ready for Burger King, R. Dub said, and so was I. We talked about it.

[Jay Skeets]

New Burger King.

[Tas Melas]

A char grilled Burger King. Yeah, we talked about it. Char grilled Whopper. That's microwave.

[Jay Skeets]

Probably

[Tas Melas]

not mad.

[Jay Skeets]

Not at this guy. Just slip one more in.

[JD (Super Producer)]

I'm starting to think you have, like, side deals that we don't know about.

[Jay Skeets]

He's making so much money off that show.

[Tas Melas]

What are you talking about?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Trader Joe's Trader Tasks. Wow.

[Trey Kirby]

Two of them. That's risky. Yeah, I guess the show's coming to an end, though.

[Tas Melas]

It's only like, 3.5 dietary fiber. Grams of dietary fiber. 2 of 8. You're good. 14 grams.

[Jay Skeets]

Tomorrow night, Tass will be eating Burger King while he's on the after.

[Tas Melas]

I haven't had Burger King in decades. Think about a good Whopper right now. How's that sound?

[Trey Kirby]

You're actually talking.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, no. Oh, no. I wanted pizza.

[Tas Melas]

How bad is burger? When's the last time anyone said burger?

[Jay Skeets]

I've had it so long.

[Tas Melas]

We're on the rank. Okay, we'll rank. Yeah, okay, we'll rank. We'll rank our fast foods. Sure.

[Jay Skeets]

At least we will. We'll do that. That'll be a commercial break. We're gonna have so much fun. We're gonna eat so much food tomorrow, it's gonna be nuts. It's gonna be nuts in here.

[Trey Kirby]

We're gonna have so many answers for that dumbass question.

[Jay Skeets]

You got so many. We're running it back next week.

[Trey Kirby]

I was just early.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, exactly. All right, everybody, have a great Friday night, and we'll see you hopefully Saturday night. If not, see you Monday. Embrace the day.

[Tas Melas]

People.

[Jay Skeets]

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[Jay Skeets]

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[Tas Melas]

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