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Tas Millis
Gotta start with the Minnesota side because I'm just excited to watch them in the regular season. And I say the regular season because I'm not betting on them in the playoffs with Mellow Ball.
J. Skeets
Okay.
Tas Millis
He's never been there to show it. And I do think that is part of the reason why the Charlotte Hornets decided, hey, we'll get rid of him here. He's played two play in games and I wasn't convinced that he is going to be a great player after watching those two play in games.
J. Skeets
Had a game winner in the line.
Tas Millis
Yeah, it was very up and down.
J. Skeets
Yeah, it was an up and down game for sure.
Tas Millis
Yeah, he put the weight on his own shoulders and just kept shooting and just kept by far and away the most shots for the Charlotte Horns in both those games combined. A lot of them. I think Charlotte was really impressed this season with how he reduced his number of shots compared to last year. You know, he took a little step back and that's what they wanted. He took 20% less fewer shots than in 24, 25. And the Minnesota Timberwolves are looking at that and say, okay, if he's going to be able to do that and distribute, then I like our chances here with another ball handler beside Anthony Edwards to take that pressure off him. Not super efficient guy. I think if you look at the stats, you think, oh, he must be a pretty good three point shooter and all that. I mean, his three point shooting is fairly average. His two point shooting is way below average. So his true shooting percentage way below average when it comes to NBA numbers, pretty bad. 54.6 on the league average is 58.1. But he played 72 games, so maybe he's healthy.
J. Skeets
He was last year.
Tas Millis
He was last year. And, and that's why it is surprising that the Charlotte Hornets said, whoa, this is his best season since 21, 22, playing 72 games. They reduced his minutes to only 28 minutes per game this season. Did they have a plan to trade him at some point? I think the plan was probably just keep him as healthy as possible and it absolutely worked out. But at the same time, when it comes to the playoffs and there's a team that's all over him and ready to battle with him and test him, we can go through all the good teams in the Western Conference. The okay, so you're San Antonio's. Do you think that Lamelo Ball will be able to play up to that type of level?
J. Skeets
So it sounds like you think this is a little too risky for Tim Connolly and the Wolves here.
Tas Millis
Yeah, I think so.
J. Skeets
In making this move for Lamelo Ball.
Tas Millis
Yeah. Yeah. Plus, I mean, they have depleted their roster.
J. Skeets
Oh yeah. So there's a lot switched it up. They had too many bigs, now they're all gone. You know, Rudy Gobert of course, is still there and now they had no guards and now they've got their backcourt at the very least. And IO de Sumo as well.
Tas Millis
Right. So without Julius Randall there's a lot of pressure on Jaden McDaniels, most likely to play a lot of four, and Johan Baron J to help out. He is a super young player to help out behind Rudy Gobert. Is that a good game or two in the NBA? I mean, really, the games haven't mattered a lot when he's played really well, summer league when he's played really well. So, yes, this is a huge risk. LaMelo Ball has never played in a playoff game.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tas Millis
And I think that should be noted. And when he go, you go all the way back. Even to when he played in Australia in the NBL. He played 12 games there. There wasn't a lot of experience here. When it comes down to the nitty gritty, the tough times, the war of attrition. I don't know if Minnesota is going to be better off in the postseason. I think that's a fair question.
J. Skeets
This is the third time in the last five off seasons that the Wolves have swung for the fences here. This is Tim Connolly's MO, right. They traded a boatload of draft capital for Rudy Gobert in 2022. And at the time we said, whoa, that's a lot of draft picks. Five, I believe it was for Rudy Gobert. But. But I think that's ultimately worked out for them. Obviously, it turned them into a great defensive team and a team that was in two Western Conference finals and just like a perennial postseason team now, at least in the mix. So that one worked out. Then he swapped Karl Anthony Towns for Julius Randle and Dante DiVincenzo in 2024 after they were in the Western Conference finals, after they were one of the final four teams. Part of that was financial reasons, decisions to be made, but still ballsy. And now they've turned Julius Randle and Nas reed here into LaMelo Ball and they don't have a whole lot of moves left to make. I don't think when you look at what they have in terms of picks, because there are a lot of swaps here. A lot of picks are already out the door. This feels like. Feels like it's like one final big swing here to try and like shake things up, make this work with LaMelo Ball beside Anthony Edwards. And I think the thinking is we saw what happened over the last couple of postseasons. Teams load up on ant. They might make life difficult. They lack other creators, other facilitators. And maybe the hope here is that that's one thing Lamelo can do. What when he plays, he's not afraid to shoot. He's not afraid to create. He will put pressure on. He's obviously going to get it going in transition. That's the thinking. Right. But man, you're right. We've never seen in the postseason and also you're hoping that the body holds up and the ankles are okay and they were last year. But before that he obviously missed a lot of time.
Tas Millis
Yeah, he's played 63 potential 63% potential games throughout his career. So not that high. But coming off his best season. It is a question why Charlotte would say we're pulling the plug on the Lamelo ball experience here to get that first round pick. As you said, so long for now when a seventh grader is able to be an NBA player. Plus Nas Reed and some pick swaps. Yep, that's essentially what it comes down to. That's risky now after watching Carl Anthony Towns traded under the Glenn Taylor ownership of. Okay, you thought that's all money this one. As far as trading Nazrid and a pick, this is a new ownership with Alex Rodriguez and Mark Laurie. I thought this is kind of strange but they're swinging for the fence to get another ball handler to get two players from Anthony Edwards draft. You know the one in three pick from that draft, him and Lamelo. It's cool. That's why I'm excited. It's popcorn time.
J. Skeets
Oh my God.
Tas Millis
But the playoffs are going to very fun.
J. Skeets
It should be very fun. Super fun. Can you imagine the first post game interview after I don't know, an Ant game winner or a Lamello game winner. The two of those guys possibly on the mic. Well, first off, somebody will be fined. Somebody will be fined $35,000 for you know, probably a swearing or something like that, but it will be hilarious. The Wolves have lacked a dynamic point guard really for the entirety of Anthony Edwards sort of career here. Especially as he's hit his prime now and as great as Ann is, he's not a natural playmaker. I don't think he ever is going to be. And that's fine. He's a scorer and we've just seen so many instances where they're just trying to wring out anything out of a half court possession here. And as the main guy and they're like all right, well let's try it with Lamelo beer. This is, this is wild.
Tas Millis
It's wild.
J. Skeets
This is insane in a weird way, but very fun.
Tas Millis
That's why it's awesome for us as basketball fans because it's wild on both sides. The Charlotte Hornets are not a free agency destination Period. They just aren't. And then you go and trade your premier player here for Nas Reed in a future pick. It's, it's shocking. It's surprising. Are they going to be much worse than they were last year?
J. Skeets
That's the question.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
It's because he is for as many faults as Lamelo Ball has on his game and we can go through some of them. Like the guy does lead winning offenses. Like the numbers back that up. Like when he plays, of course, a huge part. He's an offensive engine. He, he is, he creates great shots for players. Again, he pushes it. He's got great size. You know, he's fearless. It does work. Or at least in, you know, like that 500 minute sample that we had last year. They had one of the greatest lineups we've ever seen. Now I think the Hornets are going fool's gold. Like really, you know, didn't get us into the playoffs by any means. There was something there with that lineup, but it's probably not the greatest lineup in the last like 25 years of play by play data. Right, right. And selling high on him in the healthy year. And obviously a contract extension around the corner.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
Like they're, they're deciding. We feel comfortable with Kobe White maybe replacing it, I don't know, 80% of it. And then Canipal leveling up Brandon Miller maybe more. I guess that's the thinking here.
Tas Millis
Sure.
J. Skeets
But it is strange to have a very successful year. I know they didn't make the playoffs, but for the Hornets, best year in what, a decade. And then they trade the guy that's like sort of the, that spearheads the whole thing.
Tas Millis
Yeah. And you're not going to pluck some great free agent to replace him by any means. Number one, because it's a, it's not a free agency destination. Number two, that's just the way the NBA works. Now it's likely if you're going to replace him, it's Kobe White or some guy you're going to draft down the road. But As I said, 63% of potential possible games that he's ever played. That's a, that's a big question to see him going forward like that. I, I from Minnesota, you say, okay, Anthony Edwards is our number one guy. And LaMelo Ball showed that he can take fewer shots and he can sort of slide into that, you know, secondary role at times.
J. Skeets
Yeah, he was still their number one guy.
Tas Millis
He was, he was.
J. Skeets
But I'm, I agree that he's worked really well with Knipple and Brandon Miller and then the lineup to fill it out was Miles Bridges and Diabate. That was the lights out lineup.
Tas Millis
Yeah, yeah.
J. Skeets
Unbelievable.
Tas Millis
It was really, was really good. It was scary when they got into the play in games and how he took every shot. I know he did. He did end up hitting that game winner.
J. Skeets
Yeah. He got the prime video necklace. He did looking at photo like oh yeah that.
Tas Millis
And then the next game after that was a debacle by everybody on the Charlotte Hornets. They did. So a lot of those weren't good shots that got him there. He shoot really poorly from three point land that game and you can see the numbers don't boat all that well. You think again he's an incredible scorer and three point shooter. He's about average. His three point percentage and his two points are way lower. And you think oh maybe he gets to the free throw line to compensate. He doesn't really get to the free throw line. So it feels like a great regular season player. And when it comes to the postseason I ain't, I ain't putting money on
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as a 16 game player.
Tas Millis
Eh, Fandulio is not getting my money for to. To try and bet on Lamelo ball. I don't see that happening. It's a tough one. It's a very, very fun experiment though.
J. Skeets
Zach Cram made an excellent point on ESPN yesterday. He noted how the Wolves had a choice to make last summer. Right. It was Julius Randall Nasrid, Nikhil Alexander Walker, potential free agents. And for all intents and purposes they had to pick between two of the three. They weren't going to be able to keep all three. So what did they do? They went for size and they went with the power forwards. They had Randall, they had Reed and they let the smaller Nikhil Alexander Walker go to Atlanta. And now you fast forward a year here, it feels like they maybe wish they took a mulligan on that. Right. Because both those guys are gone and they go back to more of, you know, guards in the IO de Sumo signing obviously who they traded for the dreidel and now Lamello ball. It's probably. I thought that was a good point.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
You know they went too big maybe and now we're electing to go the other way and they have to fill out the rest of the roster here.
Tas Millis
Right.
J. Skeets
They need. They don't okay McDaniels unless he is the answer and they just go we're fine. Go bears. The big McDaniels is the four. I guess that means who is the three? IO he's six foot four. So you're getting small. I mean, McDaniels is six, nine. That's okay for a power forward position, height wise, but he's fairly slight. He actually guards. He guards like point guards and shooting guards. You know what I mean? So, like, then who does that mean is guarding the threes and fours on the other team? Ant or IO it's not gonna be lamello. So they have things to do here.
Tas Millis
Yeah, they don't have a lot of
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money to do it with.
Tas Millis
Right. Yeah. I think ideally I.O. is still a bench player. Right. I think I sort of agree.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
Which is. I mean, obviously got paid here and good for him. And I don't think it's like, oh, crazy that he'll be coming off the bench making what, 22 million? Okay, that's fine.
Tas Millis
I. I guess you can look now. Now as I say that, you look at what Wemby was able to do with smaller four and three beside him. And Wemby's a different guy than Rudy Gobert, but it was Julian Champeny beside him really, sort of as your four and. And Devon Vassell. And so they're smaller and re.
J. Skeets
Is the power forward position dead.
Tas Millis
Yeah. I suppose, like, Rudy does make everybody want to get away from the lane too. Not as much as Victor Wembanyama, but he does scare everybody from the lane too. So you can see that. Because now. Yeah. With. If you're talking about offense on the Minnesota side with IO, Anthony Edwards and LaMelo Ball as your 1, 2, 3. I mean, any of those guys can break guys down. So there's. There's that part.
J. Skeets
That's good.
Tas Millis
Yeah, that's fun. I think there is a little bit more pressure on Jaden McDaniels, even though, as I say, those other three guys can do their scoring. We'll see if Jaden can step up. Not Jaden. Yeah, Jaden. Jaden. Jalen. Yeah, Jaden. Gotta go with Jaden because he's the guy with the defense.
J. Skeets
That's how I remember.
Tas Millis
Yeah. Jalen's gone. See you later. Jalen McDaniels, unfortunately, there's a lot more
J. Skeets
pressure on him too, obviously.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
Level up here.
Tas Millis
And he had a good year last year, efficiency wise. 51 from the floor, 41 from three. And then in the playoffs, he did come through that with that really, really big game to end their series against the Denver Nuggets in the first round. That was big. But there is pressure on him and Anthony Edwards is always asking him to keep up and.
J. Skeets
Yeah, and he's hitting his prime here soon. He's nearly 26. He'll be 26 at the start of next season. Yeah, but there's a lot of pressure on him now. Obviously he's out there for defensive purposes, but he's going to need to contribute to a little bit more offensively. Like the guy did Average still under 15 points per game last year. He had big moments. That's his thing, right? He always has like the big game or two. Everybody gets excited, oh, wow, we got something here. This guy might be a 25 point game scorer, but he has not been able to do that consistently. And not that he will have to because there's a lot of scoring coming in here, but man, they are. They're just thin. They're just thin up front. Like decisions with Kyle Anderson. I mean, he's back on the team and maybe we'll continue to be there. There's probably a role for him here.
Tas Millis
And it's so interesting with Anthony Edwards. This is a move to please him. This is a move to make him happy. This is a move to make the Wolves believe that they can go further in the playoffs. But a big question with a mellow ball. And then as we mention here, so much pressure on Rudy Gobert as the guy and the only guy. And sometimes he has to go to the bench and sometimes when they were able to beat Victor Wembanyama, he was on the bench. And Nas Reed was out there in game one of the playoffs against the San Antonio spurs in the fourth quarter, Rudy was on the bench and Nazride was out there on the perimeter just to get Wemby moving. And Rudy's getting old. He's 34 today. Tron catch today. He's 34 today.
J. Skeets
Happy birthday, Rudy.
Tas Millis
Yeah, so there's.
J. Skeets
I'm sorry I called you Rudy Gay on the emergency, but that's yesterday, Tonka.
Tas Millis
It's just at some point we've always wondered whether Rudy was getting slower. You know, there was that couple years, I guess it felt like a couple years going from defensive player of the year to, okay, maybe he's getting older, maybe he's getting slower. And now he's just back to being incredible. At some point, it's probably gonna. The pendulum's gonna swing the other way. How many more years does Anthony Edwards have with Rudy Gobert, Ballin? And then this, this experiment now with Lamelo. Man, it is. It's tumultuous. It is.
J. Skeets
I think a lot of people are as fun as this is on paper and the jersey sales and the post game interviews and all that with Anton Melo as your two guys. I think there's concern that, oh, this will be awesome for four months. Yeah, this will be great for four or five months. And then maybe Ant will get tired of. Of Lamelo and the way he plays. I think that's the fear maybe of some Wolves fans, some just casual NBA fans. Whatever. I could see it. You can squint and see that happening. Oh, it'll be a great little honeymoon phase. Oh, absolutely. But yeah, especially as. As the games get a little more important, tight, whatever into the postseason. Will Lamelo be able to keep up? Because again, I just go, holy crap, Wolves GM Tim Connolly. Like, we got to call this guy Kenny Rogers, man. This guy's the gambler. This is what he does. He is betting on so many things here. He's betting on Lamelo Ball's health. As you started this off with, he's missed a lot of games with generally wonky ankles. The braces this kid wears on his. On his legs are nuts.
Tas Millis
Yeah. And they reduced his minutes too. I think that probably a part of 28 minutes.
J. Skeets
He's betting that Anthony Edwards is going to enjoy playing alongside Lamelo Ball. Another ball dominant co star. Right. This is will be sort of new for Ant playing alongside a guy like that. He's betting that Lamelo Ball is going to be playing and exceeding under more scrutiny because I'm sorry, you're playing in Charlotte. People just watch the highlights. They're like, oh, that was a cool move. But now these are like you're going to marquee games, obviously big matchups. So more scrutiny and then just more expectations. This is not again, this isn't the Hornets trying to make the playoffs. This is the Wolves trying to win a championship. So there's that. He's betting that IO, McDaniels, Gobert, even Anthony Edwards, who I think is going to be asked to do a lot more defensively now out on the perimeter. Can they cover for Lamelo on that end? Lamelo's big, but he's a joke defensively. He does not try all that hard. He's sort of checked out.
Tas Millis
Yeah. I do want to give him some credit for last year. There was some effort on that end
J. Skeets
and they were a top 12 ranked defense. So that's fair. Good pushback.
Tas Millis
He was getting after it as much as he possibly could.
J. Skeets
You're still putting him on the worst offensive player on the other team generally though.
Tas Millis
Yeah. As far as the.
J. Skeets
You're going to hide him as much as you can.
Tas Millis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. And you got to give Anthony Edwards as much rest on the other end to help him offensively. And if you're like, we're talking about all these small lineups, I mean, IO does get after it too, but he's going to be teeny tiny out there. So, yeah, there's lots of questions defensively.
J. Skeets
And then finally Connolly is just betting on the idea that he can replace Randall and Nas Reed here with again, very minimal remaining resources. Like, they just don't have a lot. Minnesota's hard capped at the second apron. So they have $208 million committed to nine players as a result of this trade. They have like $15 million in wiggle room. They have to sign like five guys. What's a vets minimum now? It's like two and a half million. It's tough.
Tas Millis
It is tough.
J. Skeets
They will do it, don't get me wrong. But it's not like they have other draft capital to try and get guys and make moves. So this is ballsy.
Tas Millis
It is ballsy. It is. It is really swinging for the fences, as you said. When it comes down to the numbers, how are they going to fix the holes that they have And Naz Reed, who was, you know, a part of the culture and now moving to Charlotte there, is that, that hole too, that's, you know, this emotional hole, which I think is. It's got some legitimate legitimacy to it. Right. I, I feel that way anyways.
J. Skeets
And you said you do think this is like a proactive move from Connelly and obviously ownership and the wolves to, like, please Ant, so to speak. Right. Or to quiet the noise of like, well, that's the next superstar that's going to demand a trade out. Not that that couldn't come, especially if this backfires and blows up in their face. But for now it does sort of like, all right, a year or two here, we'll see if this works and see how this, these two mesh together. The ball and Ant era here, there's
Tas Millis
no doubt they're looking at Anthe Edwards and they're saying, what do you need? You need another ball handler. And that helps him. That being said, it's so tough in the NBA to just plug and play and we're just going to replace you with a free agent. You can't do that anymore. It's just, it's hard to do that. So, yeah, this has a shelf life and because Anthony Edwards has been there for six years. But maybe Anthony Edwards really loves this guy. And according to all reports, of course
J. Skeets
they ran this by him. Yeah, of course.
Tas Millis
According to all reports, he really likes playing with that type of guy or he admires him. He, he would, he would really like to have him beside him. And it'll be fun in the regular season. I don't know how it's going to work for postseason. I think that's a legitimate worry. We have Lamello ball sometimes those highlights that you're talking about that people often see in Charlotte. He gets stopped, you know, kind of by the free throw line. He says all right, I'm going to dribble out and 10ft, you know, or like 8ft back to the three point line. And Chuck.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tas Millis
Is Anthony Edwards going to be cool with that in the regular season? Yeah, he'll be cool with that when it comes to the postseason if he's going to try that, that routine which we have never seen, but we have seen in the plan and I didn't admire those types of shots. And again it's the plan so you can get away with it. But when it comes to a seven game series, I think other, other teams are going to annoy the hell out of Lamelo and he's just not going to be able to play up to that. We've never seen it. We've never seen it.
J. Skeets
Maybe he'll prove us wrong.
Tas Millis
Yeah, it's possible. He's going to keep checking those threes though. You're the most threes shot in the league last year, 740 threes.
J. Skeets
Are those two guys alone going to attempt per game and Anthony and.
Tas Millis
Yeah, over 20.
J. Skeets
I would think so.
Tas Millis
Yeah. They're gonna let it rip and it's gonna like. It will be fun. Anthony. For Anthony Edwards I think it legitimately will be fun. But the whole championship thing, I don't know how it's gonna work.
J. Skeets
Yeah, a little bit more from the hornet side of things here. I know we did touch on a little bit but yeah, they are removing here, as most people are calling it, the engine that sort of led the NBA's great lineup or at least high volume lineup and a team that was really good offensively, especially after a slow start to the season. They had an unbelievable offensive rating with that, that special five of ball, Knipple, Miller, Bridges and Diabate after the all star break. I mean I think SHU had it down for a 134.9 offensive rating which sounds like sounds fake but they had found something and now they're electing to go. You know what? For fool's gold we don't have to worry about contract extensions. We think we can replace maybe what he brings on a much cheaper value and we can turn this over to more to a Knipple and a Miller. And they get Nas Reed here. I mean, I don't want him to get lost in the. In the shuffle here, but he joins a pretty good front court. When you think of Miller as a small forward, then Diabate up there, Cal Brenner, Hans Steinbach, who they just drafted Nas Reed. There's going to be. I mean, he's going to have a hell of a role here. And he's a solid 2A player.
Tas Millis
Absolutely. They were 44 and 38 last year. I'd expect the expectation to be 500 this season. And they should be because Kobe White is a real good basketball player. He's definitely good at finding his own shot. And that's a big difference between him and Lamelo Ball. Lamelo Ball does set up other guys a lot of the time. Even though I, you know, I will pick apart his shot selection. He does pass. Oh, God. And so Kobe White, he likes to pass. Kobe White. You. You go and look at his numbers. He. He def. He makes his own shot and he doesn't assist nearly as much as Lamelo Ball when he's on the floor. So him and Conquer Nipple and Brandon Miller can go looking for their own shots. And those three with Nasrid and Moussa Diabate, I think you can say that will be their starting five. If Miles Bridges is still there, he'll be gone after this season.
J. Skeets
Firing contract 22 million.
Tas Millis
One more year and then that's it.
J. Skeets
He may even be moved here.
Tas Millis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If anybody wants him, I think he's totally gettable. So that's the team going forward and they can still score. Those guys that I mentioned can still put it in the hole.
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Auto Pacific segmentation 2026 Rogue vs latest in market Competitors in the EX SUV mainstream midsize class excluding electrical vehicles based on manufacturer websites. Yeah, to get the news out there for everybody, Kobe White and the Hornets have agreed to a three year, $74 million contract. The Hornets acquired White in a trade with the Bulls before the deadline. He came in, he was pretty damn good off the bench from the Hornets right away. Averaged about 16 points per game. He shot 39% from three in the 21 games. He had a big play in game. Had a big shot, of course, in that one playing game. So yeah, he gets this deal here, which is obviously a fraction of the cost of what Lamelo makes or was making and maybe even was going to make more in a contract extension. And they like this guy. He also drafted Christian Anderson at number 18. I don't think he's going to slot in here immediately by any means, but maybe down the line. But yeah, they're just selling high. They're literally, I think, just selling high on Lamelo's healthiest season successful season. It do. It does make you wonder a little bit. What do the Hornets know that the wolves don't with him. I don't know. For my mind goes like. I'm like, I wonder if we're gonna get the now you tell us column in a couple weeks here. That could break the Internet about something about Lamelo. I don't know. Yeah, I have like some headline about Fortnite having a role in all this. Something insane. Be ready for any thing. But yeah, it's. You just don't see a lot of teams do this.
Tas Millis
No. I don't know if there's anything tangible that they can write about.
J. Skeets
Okay.
Tas Millis
But you add it all up, those little things like not playing all the time.
J. Skeets
But he did play.
Tas Millis
Yeah. For six years. He's missed, you know, nearly 40% of games. That's a lot of games. So there's that. There's his shot selection. There's his, hey, this is sort of my team and everything's on me when it comes to bigger games, like, so he's never been in the spotlight. Maybe they know that. So I think there's lots of stuff, you know, the defense at times.
J. Skeets
So also maybe the. The pairing and how it worked with Lamello ball and then fairly new head coach in Charles Lee. Obviously they gave it a go here like this one year, but, you know, could be that we could learn more about that.
Tas Millis
Two years. He was there for two years.
J. Skeets
Excuse me.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
Thank you. Yeah.
Tas Millis
The first year, Lamello didn't play as much.
J. Skeets
Yeah, right, right, right. I don't know. Something's coming out.
Tas Millis
Sure.
J. Skeets
Something. Because they'll have to be a reasoning, so to speak, from the Hornets front office. But they'll probably just go, you know, look, we, like, we loved the acquisition of Kobe White, and there are reports that Kobe White and his team is like, I want to start. I don't know if you saw these. So if that's the pressure they're putting on the Hornets and they're just like. And I mean, I need a role here. I want a role here. At my point in my career, I believe I should have a starting spot. So I don't know, maybe they're just banking on that, like, all right, we'll give him the money.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
Try and run this.
Tas Millis
Kobe White's an interesting player. As I said, he's. He. He's not a point guard. Let's. Let's put it that way. I mean, he. He's. That's his. He's going to play the position with Con Nipple beside him and with Brandon Miller beside him. But he's a creator, so that. That part is. It's odd, right?
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tas Millis
Because Kobe White is an incredible six man. He's going to score forever. You know, there are things that he does better than Lamelo ball. Like he will get to the free throw line a little bit more. He's more efficient and he does assist on some place when he's out there with. When he was out there with the Charlotte Hornets, he assisted for a quarter of the buckets that were happening when he was out there. Lamelo did way more. But now you've got, you know, more pressure on conquer nipple to make things happen and assist the ball. And I think he is a decent passer. I think he is. He can. He can play make a little bit Nas Reed to do that a little bit too when he's out there. But I guess right now it n read would still be coming off the bench if they're starting Miles Bridges and Musa Diabate at the 4 5. I guess you know you're going to drop Moate. I don't know. Yeah.
J. Skeets
Either way, be starting for them.
Tas Millis
Bridges could be out of there.
J. Skeets
I also think might be gone. Yeah.
Tas Millis
So they have options but I think this is still a 500 team.
J. Skeets
Couple other things. In addition to shedding Lamello Ball's contract in this deal, the hornets created a $40.7 million trade exception. The largest in NBA history. That's crack cocaine to Bobby Marks right there. He loves this shit. But that's huge and you know, a lot of whispers, a lot of rumors going around. Or could they be in the Jalen Brown business here? Are they not done?
Tas Millis
We'll get to that after the break. I'm sure there'll be some Jalen Brown talk. Lots of Jalen talk.
J. Skeets
They also are. And maybe this is related to Jalen Brown. The Hornets are now among the most asset, asset rich teams in the NBA because they control all their own first round picks. Plus the following first rounders from other teams like the Mavericks in 27, which is top two protected. The Miami Heat 27 pick, lottery protected becomes unprotected in 28. Least favorable of the Jazz, Cavs and Wolves in 29. And now the 2033 Timberwolves pick like we talked about, the unprotected pick and swaps and. And obviously probably a million second rounders. So they have a lot of.
Tas Millis
They sure do.
J. Skeets
A lot of routes to go here. If they ever wanted to be aggressive in trying to another big game Hunter or another player. But they must feel great about everything. Knipple and Brandon Miller especially.
Tas Millis
Yep.
J. Skeets
As their, you know, sort of their backbone here.
Tas Millis
Yeah. Brandon Miller's health was also a question. You know he was bad got through it this year to.
J. Skeets
Yep.
Tas Millis
To some degree. But that's a fair question. But like you said, you, you set it up with all the draft picks. They're not locked into a lot of money anymore either. So it's. It's Nas Reed is their highest paid player if I'm not mistaken.
J. Skeets
Yeah, probably he's four years, 103 million now.
Tas Millis
Yeah, yeah. He's making 23 million this next year. And the second highest is Miles Bridges 22, which is going to be an expiring contract after this year. And it's Brandon Miller and way on down where you'll probably extend Brandon Miller, but lots of flexibility.
J. Skeets
Anything else? How would you grade this then from both sides? Give the Wolves a grade and give the Hornets a grade.
Tas Millis
What about from the media podcasting side?
J. Skeets
A plus, baby.
Tas Millis
Plus plus plus plus plus super fun. From the Hornets side? I think it's a B plus.
J. Skeets
Okay.
Tas Millis
From the Hornets and sounds so weird because they gave up the best player, but I think they did really well to get that first round pick.
J. Skeets
Well, if you're not a believer in Lamelo ball, which sounds like you are not in terms of postseason potential success, then sure, I'm not.
Tas Millis
Okay. I'm not.
J. Skeets
B plus.
Tas Millis
They did well on the Minnesota side. Oh, here they come to the plate. How are. How are. When they swing that bat.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tas Millis
I mean, they're going to line up
J. Skeets
swinging for the fences.
Tas Millis
Yeah, they're going to. They're going to hit a double in the regular season, but they're going to. They're going to swing and miss in the playoffs, I think. So.
J. Skeets
That sounds like a C then, at least.
Tas Millis
Yeah. I would be more pumped about what they built after trading Julius Randle. Like, this is our team. You know, all the guys here are going to fight. They are a great locker room type of guys. Before the Lamelo trade. And then you go and get Lamelo. I was more excited about the Julius Randall trade. I know, I know you were.
J. Skeets
Yes. And Trey was like, well, hold on. It's almost an incomplete grade for me. I'm not excited about them just saving money by getting rid of Julius Randall because he is a good, at least regular player.
Tas Millis
But it wasn't just the money save,
J. Skeets
what they then do with it. But this is sort of a part of that trade.
Tas Millis
Oh, 100, 100, 100.
J. Skeets
I mean, I can't wait to hear what TK thinks. He is a Lamelo ball fan.
Tas Millis
I would say he is. He always has been. Yeah. I wouldn't say that Julius Randle was just a money saver. He was also a ball stopper when it came to the offense and wasn't efficient. And he was a team guy. There's no doubt. That being said, the offense just wasn't as good. I mean, you have to move the ball in this league.
J. Skeets
I think a big part of this, in all honesty is like, let's have fun again. I think it's a small part. How big a part? Small part, whatever. But there is this idea of, like, Randall. It's a bit. It's a bit more of a slog. Right. Feels like more difficult. Like he's good.
Tas Millis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
J. Skeets
Lamelo. It's just gonna be like, oh, this is fun as hell. And I'm looking at this from like the lens of like Anthony Edwards.
Tas Millis
Oh, he's gonna love.
J. Skeets
Like, that will be fun. Will it translate into postseason success? I don't know. We. We. It hasn't so far, but he's been injured and all that. But regular season, I mean, you know, all these big games that they're gonna get, I assume the Wolves are gonna be one of the most, you know, nationally televised games here. I would think they would be. You already got ant.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
Now you had Lamello. I mean, the kids love them. Like, there's something to that that I don't want to discredit, especially when you sort of like you've kicked the tires a couple times, you've gotten close, and it's like, ah, well, will this work or not? Well, let's. Let's switch it up.
Tas Millis
All I can think of is Tim Connolly going into Alex Rodriguez's and Mark Lorre's office and pitching, hey, let's go get Lamello ball. And Alex Rodriguez walking around, picks up his little bat, you know, like Jalen Rose used to have, and starts and
J. Skeets
cuts in, start to swing it, and
Tas Millis
just say, is this.
J. Skeets
Is this a good.
Tas Millis
This is a good move. Am I. Am I going to. It's good. Knock this out of the park.
J. Skeets
It's good for Jersey sales. And they have new kits.
Tas Millis
Oh, yeah.
J. Skeets
They're going to sell a million.
Tas Millis
They do look good.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tas Millis
Yeah. And listen, there's lots of Lamella Ball fans, so, yeah, it works out pretty well.
J. Skeets
Let's hear what the people think here in the stream team. Grade it from both sides. Wolves, Hornets. Do you think this works? Is this insane?
Tas Millis
Is it just a money move to make money on jerseys? Is that what it is?
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Yeah.
J. Skeets
Unfortunately not in Canada.
Tas Millis
No, it's la, right? Yeah. Yeah.
J. Skeets
We needed Canada on Wednesday. I guess that was to draw or
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J. Skeets
Yeah, they had their chances at the end. Oh, boy. Gotta find the back of the net though, boys. And you gotta shoot it to find the back of the net. A couple times you probably could have
Tas Millis
shot it, but it was great. It was great watching the BBC feed because they were just questioning Canada as they went down. They went down two nothing, right?
J. Skeets
Yes, they did. That's. That's correct because they were down one nil. And then they gave up a goal right at the start of the second half. Yeah, like 50 seconds in, you're like, yeah, crap.
Tas Millis
It was great. Yeah.
J. Skeets
Then they put up a good fight at the end.
Tas Millis
It was so fun hearing. Hearing the Brits just question the Canadian. Just that they were struggling. It was a big struggle. Bust battle was good. Second half was fun.
J. Skeets
They're through to the knockout round and I know there's more teams and all that and all the caveats, but you know, I like that we have. The three host nations are at least through to do or die soccer here in United States. They had a crazy loss last night. Didn't matter. Mexico and then Canada. So that's cool.
Tas Millis
Yeah. Yeah. I was screaming turkey, yay. When they beat the US Yesterday.
J. Skeets
Why?
Tas Millis
Just because I like saying turkey. Oh, God. I mean, I've said a few things because I like saying it. Turkey. A tall cat. When I said Rudy Gobert's age, there was something else. I'll remember it later.
J. Skeets
Okay, we have other news to get into. On Wednesday, the Detroit Pistons traded backup big man Isaiah Stewart to the Memphis Grizzlies for three future second round picks. Hilariously, the trade involved this very same second round picks that Detroit sent Memphis on Tuesday to move up from number 21 to number 17 in the first round. Things are just getting, you know, handed around here like basketball cards, these second round picks. Did you see the stack going around that like the percentage at least in the second round, all but one second round pick was traded. I think the Raptors were the only team to actually use their second round pick on the guy and select them.
Tas Millis
Yeah, we'll get to.
J. Skeets
That's insane.
Tas Millis
Henry Visar a little later. There was so much second round pick being traded.
J. Skeets
I mean it's. It is pretty funny anyway, but beef stew here is the the player going to the Memphis Grizzlies and he joins a front court here, young front court right with number three pick Cameron Boozer and then number one 21 pick Kareem Lopez in addition to third year center Zach Eady who is not old by any means but he's only played in 77 games because he's unfortunately always hurt. So what do you think of this from either the Grizzlies or Pistons side? And we got more Pistons news to to lump in here.
Tas Millis
But yeah, starting from the Grizzly side, it is cool to see Isaiah Stewart be wanted to go somewhere where maybe he can establish a bit of a culture there. I think that's what this is all about for the Memphis Grizzlies. For Thomas Isa low to say hey teacher Zach, teach our Boozer how to be gritty and fight. And with Zach Eady specifically it's all about positioning and all that. And Isaiah Stewart can potentially pass that along. Guy heads definitely given Detroit that type of culture from him and others obviously. But he was a big part of that and I think he could do that with Memphis while at the same time the Detroit just moving on from a guy who was part of who they were is big. Yeah. And it sure feels like they're going elsewhere.
J. Skeets
Yeah. Well we'll get to Detroit in one second here because I just want to add that Isaiah Stewart is one of the best rim protecting bigs in the NBA season despite being 6 8. He is not huge. But BEASTU allowed opponents to shoot just 44% at the basket last season per NBA advanced stats which led all players with at least 100 shots defended the the previous season he was second best behind Chet Holmgren. So this is a two year sample here. The guy is amazing. We've talked about it. You've talked about before like his weird timing.
Tas Millis
Oh yeah.
J. Skeets
At sort of preventing guys scoring inside the late jumper. Yeah, exactly. So this is relatively a minor commitment here I would say from the Grizzlies too. He's just turned 25 and he's like a $15 million player. So this is good work by them I think here especially with the young guys that they have in the front court to add, not that he's old, I just said he's 25. But he'll be the more experienced of the bunch and he can play.
Tas Millis
He can play.
J. Skeets
And he'll be playing also for a contract coming up here whether it will be Memphis or another team. So he's going to want to show it that way too.
Tas Millis
Yeah, I think he's, he's there to be a teacher. He's also there to score a little bit. The thing, he's. He's not a scorer.
J. Skeets
Tried to add the three point shot.
Tas Millis
Yeah. He's a capable player. It didn't work out in Detroit because they need offense. Really.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tas Millis
They're lacking so much in offense. It makes Isaiah Stewart's offense look even worse when he's out there.
J. Skeets
I mean, he was out of the rotation in the playoffs, basically.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
Because they had to be like, all right, Paul Reed can at least do something offensively.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
So sorry, Beef stew, you're basically out.
Tas Millis
Yeah. You need to be able to handle a little bit more. We need to be able to handle a little bit more to help out our offense. And that's not Isaiah Stewart like he, he's. He's there to bang home a three at times and bang some other players on the defensive end and he has, he's increased his ability to not just have to fight anymore. You know, that was the biggest question was can Isaiah Stewart emotionally be able to handle the mental side of the game? And he has been able to do that. So.
J. Skeets
But he still plays with an edge.
Tas Millis
Oh, you need that.
J. Skeets
But you're right.
Tas Millis
But he doesn't punch himself out of the league.
J. Skeets
Isaiah Stewart, I don't think you're ever going to be doing this with him. You're not putting him at the middle of the paint there when the doubles come up Cade or a zones and plot pressed on you and it's like you're throwing it to beef stew to operate, make quick decisions and this is not happening, I don't think.
Tas Millis
No.
J. Skeets
Can he hit a corner three? Yeah. Can he be an elite defensively? Yes. But. Yeah, that's why obviously Paul Reed could do something with the ball a little bit.
Tas Millis
Yeah. The scary part was with a Sar Thompson out there too as a non shooter and he had to work in the lane. There was just no room. But if you're playing with four shooters, it's way different for Isaiah Stewart.
J. Skeets
Yeah. So by renouncing their own free agents if, you know, if they elect to do this, most notably Tobias Harris, partially guaranteed Duncan Robinson, the Pistons can now get to around 33 million in cap space this summer with Isaiah Stewart's money off the books. And they've been linked to a number of obviously guards this year. We've already talked about this a little bit. You know, a couple of them are off the board now. You know, if there was any realistic chance to try and get Austin Reaves, let's say Kobe White was linked to them. So there's some names gone. But Norman Powell maybe there's still a Tyler hero move. There's some other ones. We think they're adding some scoring. But in addition to all this, according to Sam Emick of the Athletic, all NBA forward Jalen Duran was underwhelmed by the Detroit Pistons initial offer in restricted free agency and is planning to explore sign and trade scenarios when they're permitted to do next Tuesday. So this was the article I guess last night here from Amic at the Athletic. Duran is eligible for a five year $287.1 million extension. That would be 30% of the Pistons salary cap. That's because he made all NBA. But Sam wrote the gap between the sides is large enough that Duran is considering ways to land elsewhere. Again, sign and trade route deemed preferable to signing an offer sheet with another team that the Pistons could and likely would match. What do you think of this? The idea maybe the Jalen Duran won't be on the Pistons.
Tas Millis
I think it's just a negotiation tactic. I think he does go back to the Detroit Pistons because if you go sign somewhere else, let's say it's, it's just a restricted free agent offer. You go sign with a team that's able to sign you to 4 and 177 because you got cat room. You have, you need cap room to be able to sign that much. So it doesn't apply to a lot of teams out there.
J. Skeets
Right.
Tas Millis
I think that Pistons say no problem, we'll match that.
J. Skeets
We're just not doing five. Not even close to seven or 287.
Tas Millis
Dear Lord, no, not even close.
J. Skeets
Right.
Tas Millis
Like I don't know what Trajan Langdon is doing in the negotiation room but I think he should say in part, okay, let's forget the idea that you made all NBA. Forget about that.
J. Skeets
Right.
Tas Millis
Let's go back to the 25% which is still a ton. I mean even still 200 million and all that is still a ton, but I think that would be the ballpark. Now the sign and trade part, what names are we talking about? Because if you're making that much money, we're talking about big time players and we could be talking about the Kawhi Leonard rumor that the ESPN has thrown out there that Detroit is looking for Kawhi Leonard who has one year left on his contract but apparently does not want to resign in Detroit. He only wants to resign with the Toronto Raptors or I mean that's a Rumor or the San Antonio spurs, the two teams that he's played for outside of the Clippers, those would be the two teams that he would go to. So I don't see that sign and trade happening because we're talking a lot of money here with Jalen Durham. Beyond that, there's the Jalen Brown talk. I think if I'm Brad Stevens, or I don't even say. I don't even need to say if I'm Brad Stevens, I think Brad Stevens is thinking that's a downgrade and we're not doing it. And I think Jaylen Brown is capable of coming back and playing for this team. So I don't think they're doing that at all. And then there's Tyler hero, something like that. But are the Bucks doing that? I. I don't know. That one makes a little more sense, player wise, because the Pistons need a Tyler Hero. And maybe the Bucks will say, all right, we'll take on. We'll take on Jalen Jordan. But they have. It's a weird scenario. That's why I think he ends up. He ends up in Detroit.
J. Skeets
So you think this is just more negotiating here?
Tas Millis
Yeah, I mean, the question is, need a baller. That's for sure. Perimeter baller. That's for sure.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tas Millis
At some point, the real question is
J. Skeets
how hard are the Pistons playing ball here when it comes to these negotiations? Because Ziller wonders if Jalen Duran and his agents are maybe bulking at the idea of a 25% max. That's what you were saying. Pretend you didn't make all NBA.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
That's still a ton of money. That could still be up to five years, like 240.
Tas Millis
Right. That's still, like.
J. Skeets
That's probably way too much after what we saw in 14 playoff games where the guy was scoring 10 points per game and he was shooting pretty low efficiency for a center, especially compared to his numbers in the regular season. So, you know. Or is Detroit offering even less than that? Or is Detroit trying to include team options in this? Yeah, I mean, if you believe the report from Sam, which. Why wouldn't you. The gap between the sides is large enough. What? What? It's really how you interpret what that is. So we'll see here. But I don't know. I think this is actually smart, though, from the Pistons, as crazy as that
Tas Millis
sounds, just the lower the number.
J. Skeets
Yeah. Don't just give him whatever he wants. Maybe this isn't an issue if the guy's scoring 25 and. And 12 rebounds in postseason games. And, you know, living up to the hype. But he wasn't. I'm sorry. He cost himself a lot of money.
Tas Millis
The office did. Yeah.
J. Skeets
Playing the Magic in the Cavaliers, too.
Tas Millis
Right?
J. Skeets
Or we're not playing the best of the best teams.
Tas Millis
I think the whole article from Samak is based upon the fact that this is just a negotiation tactic between agent and the front office. And I do question the article because the first line is all NBA forward Jalen Duran. The man's not a forward.
J. Skeets
Well, okay, yes.
Tas Millis
And you don't even have positions for all NBA teams anymore.
J. Skeets
He's all NBA. That's all it matters.
Tas Millis
It's just a stupid comment. I think it doesn't really matter. The worrisome part was the playoffs. And it does suck for Trajan Langdon to see the possible numbers that Jalen Duran is capable or is able now to make, because the numbers are just too much. The cost is just too much.
J. Skeets
And in this, you know, apron era of the cba, in this league, it's like these. These are the ones you got to get right. It feels like not your main guy. Those are max guys. That's cade. It's these.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
The second, I mean, second, potentially third best player on your team. Once you start getting into these type of numbers, if what he wants, obviously the max like, it's like you're just. I don't know, you're putting yourself in a very difficult position.
Tas Millis
Oh, you know what the Trajan. Trajan Lagnan should do? You made me think of Jalen Brunson in New York. He should put a contract in front of him and cover the last name so it just says Jalen on it. And then it'll say the numbers that Jalen Brunson makes over the next few years. Because he signed for way less. He signed his extension for way less because the cat was getting paid a monstrous amount of money. So Brunson took less. Just push that forward and say, hey, you see these numbers? This is what you should be making. And he'll look at and say, no. And then, you know, but his agents.
J. Skeets
His agent would slide another piece of paper back, covered. Last name Jalen. Spelled differently, of course, but it's Jalen Brown's numbers. He'd say, well, look at this. You want to play Jalen contract? I can play Jalen contract.
Tas Millis
But this guy just won a championship, you know?
J. Skeets
Yeah, but my guy won a championship, too, and was finals MVP as well. We got dueling. Jalen's here, man.
Tas Millis
Yeah, Jalen Banjos.
J. Skeets
What. What number do you think will be fair for both sides or if, if he does stay with the Detroit Pistons?
Tas Millis
What is fair in today's NBA? No, I just know that it's going to be more than what Jalen Duran. I was gonna say worth, but hopefully he gets better and he's, he's. He's going to be around the NBA for a long time. He's going to be really good. But as far as a number, I would. I would hope it's a little under 40, but it's. 40 is probably it, I think. 5 for 200.
J. Skeets
Oh, I was wondering. I was wondering. Yeah, 4 for 200.
Tas Millis
Why would you do 4 for 200? Oh, you're talking about restricted free agent. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think, I think. I think he'll end up in Detroit. I'm thinking the Detroit numbers and what Langdon's gonna offer.
J. Skeets
You loved it. You're saying you'd love to see him. If you're the Pistons front office, him making around 40 million PER. He's thinking, obviously, I'm way more than that.
Tas Millis
Yeah, yeah, but where is he going to get that from? He's not. Because again, what he can make as a max number from somebody outside of Detroit is 4 for 176.
J. Skeets
Lakers would have a lot of cap room in theory still. Right.
Tas Millis
That's all you can sign it for is 4 for 177. Unless you. You do a sign and trade. But that's different.
J. Skeets
Trade. Right, right, right.
Tas Millis
Who's coming back at that money?
J. Skeets
All right, we'll keep our eye on this one. And Jalen Duran working out a deal with the Pistons. Or not. Maybe it is a sign and trade here. Let's talk about the Lakers because their guard Austin Reaves has signed a four year, $185 million contract to remain with the franchise. He declined a $14.9 million player option, which was, duh, to trigger this payday. So in terms of average annual salary, this deal is a full max contract for a player with six or few years of experience. However, the Lakers could have resigned Reaves for up to five years, too. So there's, you know, this was the Negotiation, I guess. Four years, 185. Biggest contract ever signed by an undrafted free agent in NBA history. So congratulations to Austin Reaves on that. That is pretty impressive. Now, what do you think about this?
Tas Millis
I think. I don't. I have no touch as to how much each guy is making in the NBA when it comes to salary cap. I'm not doing the spreadsheets that would make it more understandable for me. But I was just talking about Jalen Duran making somewhat similar money as Austin Reaves because it sounds like a lot for Austin Reeves.
J. Skeets
I think we all expected this, though.
Tas Millis
We did. We did. Yeah. And that's why I hesitate and I say he's earned it definitely in the regular season. Now he's got to show it in the playoffs. He did have that one good run against the Memphis Grizzlies where he said, I'm him. No, what'd he say? He. Me. I. Him. I know, it's like a two short word.
J. Skeets
It.
Tas Millis
Me. I. Me. Whatever it was, he's a very capable player. Aside Luka Doncic, I think the. The physicality part is. The important part is if he can get stronger and durable, then he can do it in a postseason. And maybe these last few years have been a good trial run for him.
J. Skeets
Yeah, this is tough. I mean, you have a hundred million dollars now to Luca and Austin Reeves. And by the way, Luca sounds like he wanted Austin Reeves back. He sees him as an important piece as a running mate. So, I mean, you're obviously going to talk to him about that.
Tas Millis
Yeah, it's like me and Kyrie. Kyrie's a different player, but you know, that type of thing.
J. Skeets
And he is a defensive liability, though. Austin Reaves, I mean, and like, Luka is not a lockdown defender, too, so that's a bit of a scare. I don't see why he like this idea, like strength and all that, or defensive acumen. I don't see it changing much because Austin reaves is not 22 years old like Jalen Duran is. He's 28. Like, it took a little longer to get here and get established. He was underpaid, by the way, for a long time here over these last couple years. Now he's maybe. Maybe we'll be overpaid, but maybe it all washes out. Right? But the simple truth is having Reaves, I think at this price, next to another poor defender in Luca, is a tough spot, at least to build a championship team. Impossible. No, but tough. Then again, what were you going to do? Are you going to lose Reaves? You're going to have a massive hole in your offense. So you're sort of. They were sort of. I mean, this was. Their hands were tied, I think, so to speak, here. And he was going to always sort of get this because. I don't know. What, you're just going to let him go? I mean, no, but it's a lot.
Tas Millis
I.
J. Skeets
This. Okay. I have Never been the biggest Austin Reeves fan. I know there are reavers in them. I haven't. This deal screams a little bit Zach Levine 2.0 to me. It does because Zach Levine was coming off all star seasons with the Bulls before He signed a five year, $215 million deal in the summer of 2022. He was around the same age. His average salary was basically the same here, 43 million PER. And what was happening, the Bulls were looking to trade him like felt like a year later. Took a little longer to get out of it. But I'm a little fearful of the way the type of player he is because those guys are scorers for sure. They contribute around the edges in other departments. But like I don't know. That's what it feels like to me. This could be bad is my point.
Tas Millis
I hear you, but what else did they do? But the difference between the Lakers now and what the Bulls were then was the Bulls had money tied up into so many guys with Levine, DeRozan V and Lonzo Ball at the time you, like you just said, it's just Luca
J. Skeets
and one guy and one team has Luka Doncic is the other part too.
Tas Millis
Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Now it's just Luca reeves and their third highest paid player for next year's Jared Vanderbilt at 12 million because LeBron is unsigned. But they're trying, they were trying to get. We just mentioned about Isaiah Stewart. They would have loved to have Isaiah Stewart. They didn't have the picks. They didn't have those three second round picks. Even their cupboard is pretty bare. So it is a scary time here for the Lakers.
J. Skeets
It really depends. Do you think Austin Reeves is in the same caliber, same tier say as guys like Devin Booker and Trey Young and Dear and Fox and Jamal Murray? I'll just throw those four for now because if you believe that then there's no real big problem with this contract because it's similar to what those guys make in terms of, you know, Booker a little bit more. But like where they start and where it goes, it's around the ballpark. And reeves did average 21.5 and 6 over the last two seasons on really good efficiency. 47, 37, 87 shooting, splits as a second, sometimes third option. So it's not really an overpay when I like do look at it compared to these other guys. But I also don't know and I'm not sure that I think he's better than some of these guys. So I don't. But then again it's like, shut up. I am. Look at my numbers. Look what I've done. The guy has played through injury too. I mean, that was a big blow on the last postseason. I think he probably shouldn't even have been out there, but he sucked it up and gave it a go, so we'll see. I, I don't think this is going to age all that well. But he's proven everybody wrong through his entire career here, so why not another one in me?
Tas Millis
Yeah, I am, as you said, or I'm him, as he said, against the master. Yeah, I think I said that because I tried them all. But when I say physicality, it's not just about defense. It's about being healthy and being this, this, this, this sport. It takes a lot out of guys over a six month regular season and then here we go for the playoffs. So I think Austin Reeves just has to get stronger in that regard. And then as I mentioned about the other parts around him, we know what Luca wants. He wants great defensive players. So if he's okay with Austin Reeves, it's about number one, bringing Rui Etchemura back and then hoping that some, somehow they get some gift of an incredible center, defending, everything. And it's not deandre Ayton anymore. And a power forward too. They got lots of holes. I mean, they got, they got holes across the board. Right now it's those two guys in the backcourt. But then you're, you're hoping for what I mean, Jake Laravia to be a new guy, deandre Ayton again to be even better. I mean, they have holes at the 3, 4, 5. Really?
J. Skeets
Yeah, they had a lot of work still to do here. Yeah, ton of off season work in terms of filling out the rest of the roster. I mean, of course there's the huge LeBron James question too. What's going on there? I wonder if Reeves can continue his streak of increasing his points per game scoring every season. Comes in scores, only 7 points per game, obviously as a rookie. Then up to 13. Sort of got his name in six man of the year conversations. Fringe. Then it was up to 15.9, then it was up to 20.2 and last year 23.3 points per game in 50 or so games because he was injured a little bit. So guess. I mean, you know, they're hoping he's still a 25 point per game scorer. I think around that.
Tas Millis
Yeah, absolutely.
J. Skeets
But he tries hard on defense, I'll give him that. But I. He is not by any means a defensive lockdown. Player. And it's tough next to Luke.
Tas Millis
Guys who, who see him in front of them, they feel like they can be more physical than him, like they're stronger than him.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tas Millis
And so that's their eyes light up. That's where the work has to happen.
J. Skeets
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Tas Millis
There he is.
J. Skeets
Sexy eyes. Returning to the Golden State warriors next season, Big Al is declining his $6 million player option and intends to sign a two year, $14 million contract to return to the warriors once free agency begins next month. His new deal will be fully guaranteed and includes a trade kicker. Any thoughts on this Al Horford sticking around?
Tas Millis
It sounds like Al Horford pointed out when Yaxel Lindenborg was drafted by the Golden State warriors that their dads played together for the Dominican Republic national team. Wild stuff. Tito Horford and Okari Lindenborg way back in the 90s. I'm excited to see, you know, an old Al for sure, but him sort of guide Yaxel Lindenberg, who's going to be 24 next season when the season starts. So he's, he's older, but he's huge. And I know I'm starting to talk about Yaxel Lindenberg rather than Al Horford. We know what Al Horford is, but if he can help Jax Lundenborg be better positionally, defensively, just to do everything defensive to help use that 74 wingspan. That guy is really, really big. I think that's well worth every penny for Al Horford.
J. Skeets
Horford will become the 13th player in NBA history to reach a 20th season. He joins LeBron James, Vince Carter, Chris Paul, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Garnett, Kevin Willis, Robert Parish, Kyle Lowry, Adonis Haslam, who I sort of feel like Al Horford is becoming, you know, as that vet guy in the locker room. Jamal Crawford, Kobe Bryant and Kareem Abdul Jabbar. I should note Mike Conley should become the 14th player. If Mike Conley is playing this coming season, which I imagine he will be. I haven't heard any whispers about him retiring.
Tas Millis
Forgot about Jamal.
J. Skeets
So, yeah, yeah, that's a lot of guys there, but. Or up to 14. A lot of these guys. Obviously more recent. There wasn't many playing 20 years. It was like Kareem Abdul Jabbar in chief.
Tas Millis
Oh, yeah.
J. Skeets
And then it, you know, Kevin Willis gotten in the mix.
Tas Millis
Jamal Crawford had that weird thing in his 20th season. He played just one game.
J. Skeets
Oh.
Tas Millis
And it was on August 4th because it was a weird Covid game where he played six minutes for the Brooklyn Nets.
J. Skeets
Okay, so you're saying we should just cross him from the list?
Tas Millis
Never. Never. We'll never cross a Crawford.
J. Skeets
Horford though, did last year deal with sciatica issues. He had the calf strain, so he didn't miss time last year he only played 45 games.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
And now Horford does not generally in. In what was still at this point a 19 year career, he doesn't how many times has missed less than like 60 games. Like it's like a handful.
Tas Millis
So is this too big a contract?
J. Skeets
No, no. I would pay anything to keep Al Horford around. You can still contribute.
Tas Millis
Absolutely.
J. Skeets
Awesome locker room guy. And I think you're right with the Yaxel Lennon board part. I'm sure there's a part of it like pairing up with them, make them a pro if, you know. I would think so.
Tas Millis
Keep them around the locker room.
J. Skeets
And it's like keep him around. I mean, he's basically signing. It's like $1 million more if it was a $6 million. And then now it's going to be seven here for two. So yeah, it was smart of him to get the trade kicker probably in there.
Tas Millis
I'd love to have him in the locker room. Yeah, well, let's. Let's go to the chocolate milk fridge.
J. Skeets
I think he still drinks chocolate.
Tas Millis
Let's pop a chocolate milk. I think so.
J. Skeets
He also, by all accounts, will not be participating in international hoops for the Dominican team this summer at all. So maybe a little more fresh here moving forward. And healthy. Restricted free agent Mark Williams intends to sign a three year, $38 million fully guaranteed contract to return to the Phoenix Suns. So this means the Suns have locked in the last of their own priority free agents here, reaching terms with Colin Gillespie, Jordan Goodwin over the weekend and Now Mark Williams. Three years, 38 million. Your thoughts?
Tas Millis
This is their team from last year. Exactly. As you said. Colin Gillespie gets 4 for 48. Mark Williams also I think a very good contract on the Phoenix sun side and for Mark Williams side, I think, you know, maybe after one more year of playing good, healthy ball, he could have got more somewhere else. But I think this is good value for the, the Suns and, and Mark Williams saying thank you for believing in me, unlike the Lakers who wrote me off after that physical. So yeah, good money. The Suns are running back the same team and that's what they did to themselves after the whole Durant Beal thing. They had to extend this the length of being an average team. They're, you know, a very, very impressive season last year and they overachieved, but they can't really do much more. It doesn't feel like than that. Right. How much better can they possibly get if they're healthy? If Dylan Brooks is healthy, then maybe they can get better.
J. Skeets
He's contract extension eligible. Dylan Brooks still, he's got one year. I wonder if they'll explore that. Yeah, there's no doubt they're running it back. I think some people are like what you're running that back? Like they're rolling their eyes at it, but then they're good. You know, maybe this is a better path to sustained success than. Than what they did, obviously. And it blew up in their face. Hell, they got Bradley Beal still on their books. I mean, he's making $20 million dead money. Right.
Tas Millis
They're just trying to build a good program like the Charlotte Hornets. I think it's, it's all about the program.
J. Skeets
Mark Williams is a solid starting center and he played last year. That was Good. Career high, 60 games.
Tas Millis
Right.
J. Skeets
This guy has been injured a lot. Obviously failed the physical once upon a time. But he gives you 12 and 8. He's, he's got good hands. He's solid again, you know, on the glass and stuff like that. Generally though, from your 7 foot 1 center, you'd like a little defense. And that is not his forte. He does not block a lot of shots. And ESPN says Mark Williams has allowed opponents to shoot around 65% at the rim throughout his career. That's insane. Insanely high.
Tas Millis
Very high.
J. Skeets
It's like one of the worst marks among all the NBA bigs. So yeah, you know, they're just. I think they're not ready for. Obviously Malawatch is not ready. He's too raw yet. If he ever even blossoms into that. And then who else is there? Other big.
Tas Millis
I always forget the guy who's not all that big.
J. Skeets
No, really no. More of a diabate almost sort of center type guy, right?
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
Size wise.
Tas Millis
I mean, yeah, he's even. He's smaller than Diabot, if I'm not wrong. But. But yes, I hear what you're saying. Yeah, they're lacking.
J. Skeets
So they're just like. But these are not bad deals.
Tas Millis
Like, not at all.
J. Skeets
Like you could trade any of these guys and they're all quality players. So I'm talking in Gillespie and Goodwin and him now. So this is. I'm not. I don't think this is bad work.
Tas Millis
No.
J. Skeets
As they try and stay competitive.
Tas Millis
Before Mark Williams was acquired by the Phoenix Suns, this would be a bad contract because he didn't play all that much, but this past year earned him some more money and he was their best center, as you said. So if they want to run back the same team with a capable center in Mark Williams, this is how much you got to pay.
J. Skeets
My final thought on this team, though, is I will. Well, I'd be a little shocked if they don't trade either Jalen Green or more likely Grayson Allen here this off season. Or let me put it this way, I will shocked if both those guys are on the team by opening night in 2627.
Tas Millis
Yeah, you said the same thing.
J. Skeets
Yeah, you said both guys have two years left on their deals. If they pick up their player options in 27, 28. Allen makes about 1819 million dollars. Green is double that 36 million. So this coming season, then it goes down to 30 million in the player option year.
Tas Millis
The Suns would say it's going to
J. Skeets
be a tough contract to get off.
Tas Millis
But the Jalen Green.
J. Skeets
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tas Millis
The Suns would say, hey, we want to see a full season of all our guys actually healthy because this was the first year, if I'm not mistaken, that Jalen Green was actually injured and it was. He played, he's played in.
J. Skeets
Oh, yeah, he was a bit of an iron man there for a while.
Tas Millis
Yeah, he played 82 and two straight seasons prior to this past one. 76 the year before that and 67 in his rookie year, but just 32 last year. So the Suns will say, hey, we got to see our guys play. Grayson Allen only played in 51 games. Dylan Brooks only played in 56 games. So they had a lot of injuries as well. That's going to happen in basketball. But I think they will. They do want to give Jalen Green an actual year to see what he is with this team.
J. Skeets
And I know, I think Grayson Allen will be the one moved probably because they're, you know, they Got to help out their own books a little bit here too. This isn't actually an expensive team, despite being pretty mediocre. So moving forward, final piece of news here. On Wednesday, the Atlanta Hawks acquired the draft rights to center Henry Vasar, the 52nd overall pick in the 26 NBA Draft from the LA Clippers, in exchange for the 57th pick and good old cash considerations. This was your sleeper pick. When we were looking at the draft, you liked what you saw from the big UNC center.
Tas Millis
Oh, he's good.
J. Skeets
And this guy just kept slipping, slip it. We thought he might go in the first round. Yeah, maybe late first round, obviously made it to the second day and nearly to the end of it. But the Hawks get him in the end.
Tas Millis
Yeah, in part. Henry VSAR's agent said, hey, you gotta guarantee this guy a contract. And a lot of the teams are in the second round want to sign guys to two way contracts and so they save money that way. And that's why he kept slipping. Not because he's bad, but because he's that good. I think this is just a fun story. It's Friday here. Sometimes we do worse of the week. I was going to make this best of the week because I thought it was super fun what the Hawks were able to do here to go get him because I think they got three first round players over the two days of the draft with VSR. He's damn good. Slipping to 56 and he deserves a guarantee. 52. Excuse me. Yeah, you got the. I thought at 56 the Lakers were going to get him. The Lakers wanted him real bad. They didn't have a second round pick, so they went and acquired a 56. The number, number 56 pick from the Bulls. They said here's some cash, give us the 56 pick. And that's when Auntie Saleh and the Hawks front office said I'm taking him at number 52. They swooped in and got the 52 pick for the, for the Clippers. And then the Lakers said oh shit. And they just traded that 56 pick away. Oh, we don't need that Mavs. You take that, you get save blood. The man, that name is hard reading it. It's say a lad Svad Ischenko. Anyways, this Cenko is Russian. Russian, yeah, we'll see. But we definitely. Anyways, Vasar is so good we will hear from him because he's, he's damn good. He can, he's. He's very capable big who can shoot the three, but he can handle a little bit too. He can put it on the floor just a little bit, but he's good in pick and roll situations and pick and pop situations. He was asked by Atlanta reporters, hey, you know, how did you. How did you develop your game? And he said, you know, listen, at 12, I was pushed into a point guard role because I couldn't play center on our team. He didn't clarify why this monstrous man couldn't play center, but he was put into this point guard role.
J. Skeets
Scary.
Tas Millis
And he's, he's capable of that. He needs to get better physically, but I think this is. This is great. He complimented the Hawks player development department. Like, that's why even know them. Well, his agents do. His agents said. His agent said, we want to go to Atlanta. In part, they. They are able to sway these, these teams in the second round to say, hey, you know, come, let's. Let's get a guaranteed contract. We know you've got great player development. Vesar will be dedicated. And so some teams are reluctant to sign a guaranteed contract with second round pick.
J. Skeets
A lot of teams were.
Tas Millis
That's why they got the heck out. As you said, with all those trades, the Lakers were not. The Lakers wanted to do this. You know, see Bronnie James, they give a second round pick a guaranteed contract. No problem here. They wanted to do with Vissar, but instead they got Ishchenko.
J. Skeets
And they said, you're high, man.
Tas Millis
He's good.
J. Skeets
Let the record show, Task demanded that this piece of news be included in today's Drop podcast.
Tas Millis
Well, he's.
J. Skeets
I was ready to cut it. I was like, we got a million things to talk about. You're like, I got to talk about.
Tas Millis
Well, he could go out and help a bunch of teams as a backup center. That's why the Lakers wanted him. They'll take him. You know, it might take him a little while, but he's. He's. He's going to be a rotation player.
J. Skeets
All right, well, it is the Drop. We got to do rapid fire. And I've got the questions. I'll answer along with Tass and J.D. here we go. The streets in Charlotte are now marked safe from Lamelo Ball's driving. So no more cutting off traffic, running red lights, crashing custom made Hummers. Thankfully, no one was injured there, but Minneapolis drivers better buckle up now. I mean, LaMelo Ball is going to be driving in the snow.
Tas Millis
Ooh, yikes. Yeah.
J. Skeets
What's something else that's difficult to do in wintry conditions?
Tas Millis
Tas, great question. It's been so while we haven't Talked about the winter.
J. Skeets
You're right.
Tas Millis
Being down here, hanging my clothing outdoors, it's impossible. It's too cold. I want my clothing to be kissed by the sun and kissed by weather. Oh, gosh. As the wrinkles just naturally de. Wrinkle, instead of putting it in the dryer. Just. I just want to say hello to nature. I want to put my feet on grass or whatever people say and.
J. Skeets
Do you guys have a clothes clothesline here in Atlanta?
Tas Millis
I used to. In my other house, I did.
J. Skeets
Yeah. You did. Yeah.
Tas Millis
Yes. Sweet. It was sweet. Are you even allowed clotheslines?
J. Skeets
Oh, no, he can't now.
Tas Millis
What? Because. Because of HOA rules?
J. Skeets
Yeah, for sure.
Tas Millis
No, come on. You can't hang a line. Some HOAs.
J. Skeets
They don't.
Tas Millis
They.
J. Skeets
I would be shocked if you couldn't.
Tas Millis
No, there's. It's not in the covenant. You know what? Put. I would double check that. Just test it. Put a nice line, hang a shirt out of a window and see what happens. Yeah, no, I hang a shirt. Okay. I can't argue. There's some stupid things. Yeah. I think there's a thing about bird houses in my stupid.
J. Skeets
Okay, well, birdhouse is illegal.
Tas Millis
Or you know what? On a similar note to laundry lines string lights, I think are. I don't know why, but they're frowned upon for some stupid reason. They may be part of the covenants, but. But the laundry line. Oh, baby, there's no way. Anyways, you think there's no way, you know, you can't have a line. I guess I can have. I. I live in America. There's a farm down the street. If I want to. I could string a clothesline from the roof of my house to the telephone pole across the street, and it's fine.
J. Skeets
Damn thing they can do about it.
Tas Millis
Ain't no HOA here. Well. Well, how about the garbage truck? Every week will be ripping that thing off if you hang it across. You got me on that one.
J. Skeets
All right, so. Yeah. Wintery conditions. You didn't love not being able to hang your clothes when we were in Canada for at least half the year.
Tas Millis
Yeah, at least. Yeah.
J. Skeets
The other half, you're. You're set.
Tas Millis
That. Yeah.
J. Skeets
I grew up with a clothesline.
Tas Millis
Yeah. Same with me. Yeah, your. Your clothes freeze. They're hard as rock.
J. Skeets
Yeah. Bring them in.
Tas Millis
And. Oh, it was Good.
J. Skeets
All right. J.D. what about you? Something difficult to do in wintery conditions.
Tas Millis
Literally anything with my hands. My. You know, so, like playing pickleball outside, you know, pissing, typing. Not that I pissed.
J. Skeets
Hey, no hoa. Here you can piss wherever he wants.
Tas Millis
Oh, yeah.
J. Skeets
Piss right on the next door neighbor's door for all he cares. America couldn't do that. Okay.
Tas Millis
Yeah, I just lose circulation in my hands. So.
J. Skeets
Yeah, it's.
Tas Millis
I can't feel. Feel them. So, you know. Sucks.
J. Skeets
Good one. My answer for this is. And I've actually never experienced it like in the wintery conditions, but jd, I know you have having a dog, having a dog a lot more difficult if you live in the winter climate. Just a pain in the ass.
Tas Millis
Oh, you haven't even been in snow with Luna.
J. Skeets
No. Luna's seen a little bit of snow here in Atlanta. The few times we've been kissed.
Tas Millis
Yes.
J. Skeets
By snow. But yeah, I just like, we're talking months. If I had this dog in Canada and you had dogs in Canada, so you can speak to it. Like, what a pain in the ass, man.
Tas Millis
Oh, yeah.
J. Skeets
Just to get like, you gotta bundle up. Maybe the dog has to bundle.
Tas Millis
Sometimes you have to put boots on
J. Skeets
the boots with salt. Yeah, that's right.
Tas Millis
But we used to put like Vaseline on the dog's feet because it's not because of the salt.
J. Skeets
Yeah, yeah. This sounds like a nightmare. I'm in and out with Luna non stop here in Atlanta. Like, yeah. Which I love. Like, I love being outdoors. Yeah, so does the dog. But that would suck in winter. How do people do it? You know, it would.
Tas Millis
They love their dogs.
J. Skeets
You know, I love their dogs. I mean, I would do it, but I wouldn't happy about it. All right, next one here. New Blazers owner Tom Dundon is digging in his heels. That public money should fund a $600 million makeover of the Moda center there. This dude, man, this guy's Ebenezer Scrooge. Under Dundon, the Blazers refused to print postseason shirts. They told two way players to stay home during the playoffs, and they opted not to pay late checkout fees for most staffers on game days. I think they laid off people as well. He also just signed head coach Mike Inori to basically a one year deal. Cheap, cheap, cheap, this guy. Yeah, but what in your life, Tas, do you pinch pennies on?
Tas Millis
I think back to Dundon for one sec. I think what he did with the Carolina Hurricanes. He owns the hockey team too, that won the Stanley Cup. He got a lot of public money, but then he backed it up with the own. His own private money. So I don't know exactly what the plan is here with the Blazers, but yeah, he, he knows how to watch his money. That's for sure. For me. Fees in general. Fees for banks. You want to save fees from banks, go to chime. Not an ad, but kind of an ad. Because we had a recent chime ad.
J. Skeets
We've done chime. Yeah.
Tas Millis
But yeah, I love dealing with bank fees. I love dealing with it. I know that sounds sarcastic, but now they've made it easier. So you can just complain via chat.
J. Skeets
Oh, yeah.
Tas Millis
You can literally just through your app, just say, hey, WTF with this fee. And they will refund it if you know, if it. It's warranted. Just like that. Don't gotta talk to nobody. You can do 68 things at the same time. Do it on a phone, get an alert and you're good to go.
J. Skeets
I was especially good question because I feel like you're smart. You're very smart, frugal. So you. There's probably a million things you could.
Tas Millis
Thank you for calling me frugal. Well, you are. Yeah, I liked.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tas Millis
I. I hate overpaying.
J. Skeets
Yeah, for sure. All right. What about you, J.D. what do you pinch pennies on my
Tas Millis
shot here if you're watching on YouTube. Oh, we spent a lot of money on the lights for the set. Sometimes I appear on screen and I'm in a cave here just as sort of floodlight above me. And I. And I gave myself the worst camera. Like this is the. The off brand, sort of temu version of the rest of the cameras in the studio.
J. Skeets
We can't afford a new camera. Everybody get super chats in right now. So I get a camera for J.D.
Tas Millis
no, it's more of the lighting. I just gotta. I'm gonna address it this summer.
J. Skeets
Yeah. And maybe behind yourself.
Tas Millis
Yeah, this, all this stuff. It was the original plan. It was part of the plan.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tas Millis
Yeah. Just didn't. There was other things to do. We got a five day a week show here. It's. It's a grind.
J. Skeets
It's a bit of a grind.
Tas Millis
Yeah. So. So.
J. Skeets
All right. Okay. As for myself, parking, I am not a fan of paying for parking. And I don't pinch pennies in a lot of things in life. I really don't. And we are blessed enough that we don't have to worry about a lot of things like that. But, man, something about it bugs me.
Tas Millis
I hear.
J. Skeets
So I will, like, you know, I asked Nora, like, like, you know, what should I answer for this? What do I pinch pennies on? She immediately like, oh, my God, you in parking. Pain in the ass. Because, like, we're going out for dinner. It's like, I don't we don't need to valet. There's parking. Paid parking. Let's just go. We'll find a. In Atlanta, you can find a lot of streets that you can just park on for free.
Tas Millis
Absolutely.
J. Skeets
Now you're gonna have to walk a little bit so she gets upset. Like, oh, you're making it more difficult. Hey, I'm saving us.
Tas Millis
Oh, yeah.
J. Skeets
20 bucks here and a walk.
Tas Millis
Parking. It's the same for Danielle. Like, she doesn't want to walk three minutes.
J. Skeets
That's insane.
Tas Millis
Or two minutes because we paid for parking recently. What's the point? What's the point? Just drop her off.
J. Skeets
So. I've said that before.
Tas Millis
It happens. They never want to do that.
J. Skeets
No, they never want to do that.
Tas Millis
That's the door table.
J. Skeets
Exactly.
Tas Millis
Yeah. They don't. No, no, don't put them all under that. Blanket. The blanket statement. Okay, you're right. They. You're saying.
J. Skeets
They're saying they as in our wives.
Tas Millis
Yes. I just. I just threw my. I'm. I'm totally with you. Although I was pleasantly surprised, actually. You mentioned the valet at a restaurant. It was just tip. It wasn't. You don't have to pay an actual included in your. I thought I was pleasantly surprised. Then I said, oh, yeah, I'm gonna tip you if it's free. It's not free, but I'm gonna tip
J. Skeets
you because that's the way to do it.
Tas Millis
Happy to do that.
J. Skeets
Okay. Yeah. Valet. I don't mind as much. I like. Whatever. That's. It's a service. Usually there's valet because maybe there is. They're short on parking and all that, and they take the car somewhere and all that, but I just can't stand, like, just these paid parking slots, which, by the way, are dangerous as hell in Atlanta because, like, these spots for parking are all way too skinny.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
Like, all you look at is pillars. There's black marks all over them. People have banged in them left and right. Like, don't go down there. I'm afraid somebody's gonna ding my car half the time. Just park on the road. Walk over two blocks. It's beautiful here. They're gonna say, it's too hot. It might rain. I pinch pennies on parking. All right, final one here. Earlier this week, we were debating, I believe, both on camera and off camera, but I can never remember when we're recording and what we're arguing about, but we were debating about whether we've officially run out of original questions to ask one another. Yeah, right. I mean, after 20 years of podcasting, damn near 5,000 podcasts. Whatever number we're at, it's getting increasingly more difficult to come up with a unique question, but I think I got one here, guys. What's a rapid fire question we haven't asked before?
Tas Millis
Tas, I have a rebuttal of a question. When has someone contributed to something that we said on the show immediately after? Well, the answer is just now. Hong D84 has contributed $20 to JD's camera. Hell yeah.
J. Skeets
All you have to do is ask. You know, you just gotta ask.
Tas Millis
My answer, my actual answer was, if your shoes could tell one story, what would it be? I just like the wording.
J. Skeets
It's deep, bro.
Tas Millis
Yeah. I said, if your shoes could tell one story, what would it be? Now I'm more of a feet guy. It's more. It's more about the feet than the shoes. Like, if your feet, you know, a weathered foot. What story could a weathered foot tell?
J. Skeets
It doesn't sound as poetic, though.
Tas Millis
Exactly.
J. Skeets
If you're a weathered foot could tell a story, what would it say?
Tas Millis
Yeah, if you're hard. If your hard crusty ass feet could tell one story, what would it be? But if your shoes could tell one story, what would it be?
J. Skeets
Oh, do we have to answer these questions?
Tas Millis
No, I don't think so. Because the answers would probably, probably be exactly the same as the answer to if you could do something, if you had to do something for 20 straight years, what would it be? You know? Right. Similar.
J. Skeets
That's right. I'll tell you what my wife's feet would say. Oh, not walking. Just kidding. Jd, what's a rapid fire question we haven't asked before?
Tas Millis
Yeah, I. I don't know why I was thinking this. Probably be just because I'm old and I was wondering about. My kids are sort of their, you know, 19 and, or 18 and almost 20 and I don't know if they've ever had a. Like a slow dance before. Remember slow dances?
J. Skeets
Hell yeah.
Tas Millis
Wait, and then slow dance would come on and. Yeah, and then you start. Always remember your first slow dance. So I guess that's my question.
J. Skeets
What's your.
Tas Millis
What was the song? Was your first slow dance? Wow.
J. Skeets
Song I don't know about?
Tas Millis
Yeah, mine was Spando Ballet. True sparrow. Like kid 1980.
J. Skeets
Okay. Two or three. Okay.
Tas Millis
Yeah, that's familiar. Shout out to J Chow. By the way, $10 more for the writing. It's been, it's been added onto. I do. I. Sometimes I'm. I'm at kids schools and I say Is there a slow dance happening? When, when I'm there at a slow dance and I do see some different slow dancing. There's a, there's. It's not as tight anymore.
J. Skeets
Okay.
Tas Millis
Okay. There's distance.
J. Skeets
Yeah, yeah.
Tas Millis
You can fit like three people in between the two people if you really wanted to. So it happens out there. Jd. Okay. I'm happy to hear that. I can't think of my first song. No way.
J. Skeets
I got no idea on the song, but I did my slow dance claim to fame is. I remember I'm young, young in high school, so probably grade nine or 10. And I was still very short. I danced with Basma Hussain.
Tas Millis
Basma Hussain.
J. Skeets
Yeah. Hasan. I guess she was very. She was much taller, so it was a very funny looking visual. But the reason the claim to fame is she went on to become. She's the wife of like a prince in Jordan.
Tas Millis
Really?
J. Skeets
Yeah. She's like royalty.
Tas Millis
Wow.
J. Skeets
And super accomplished woman. Like super smart. I think she's like, can fly like, like she's a pilot, basically. Like jet fighter almost. It's crazy. Yeah, you should have helped. But I danced with her. Yeah, yeah. She was more of a friend thing. She was, she was great. Yeah. Basma. Exactly. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's in Jordan.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
All right. My. I guess my answer to this. What's a rapid fire question we haven't asked before? I saw this on social media recently. So I wanted to ask you guys, and I do want answers for this. What could you throw farther? A baguette or non?
Tas Millis
Oh, I think it's non.
J. Skeets
Frisbee style.
Tas Millis
You know what I. The javelin style.
J. Skeets
You're crumble, you're crumpling.
Tas Millis
Can you crumple anybody?
J. Skeets
The guy said this. That's what I would do.
Tas Millis
That's what I would do.
J. Skeets
Yeah. When. But would it fall apart in the throw? That's the thing. How malleable is it?
Tas Millis
I think there's something. Yeah, it's all about how it's baked. If there was a yeast in it, I think it would stick together. It's all, you know, if it's. If it's bad. If it's a bad. Non. Yeah, it could fall apart.
J. Skeets
Yeah.
Tas Millis
If it's a dry.
J. Skeets
This was a debate, man. There was, there was team baguette and team non. Because the guys with the baguette are like frisbee style. It's got a little more weight to it.
Tas Millis
Frisbee.
J. Skeets
Sorry, sorry. Like javelin style. Football style is what I meant.
Tas Millis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
J. Skeets
But I think you just start going. I don't know. I. I don't think you're throwing a spiral on the baguette. Maybe I'm wrong. I think it's non, though.
Tas Millis
It's fun. Yeah, it's fun to throw. I'm going baguette.
J. Skeets
Wow.
Tas Millis
Yeah.
J. Skeets
So how are you throwing it?
Tas Millis
You're just traveling. Javelin.
J. Skeets
You're gonna javelin it? Wow.
Tas Millis
Like, yeah, maybe I'm gonna. I'm going for the spiral, like, past the ear, you know.
J. Skeets
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tas Millis
Super fun to throw something like that and pretend like you can. Yeah, because I do it.
J. Skeets
I'd like for us to test this.
Tas Millis
We can test it.
J. Skeets
Yeah, why not? I think, like, there'd almost have to be rules. Like the non. If you could freeze the naan, then you're laughing. Then I think, yeah, that it's a damn frisbee.
Tas Millis
If you could freeze the baguette, it's
J. Skeets
probably going further in a frisbee form, though. But if you can't, then that thing's. It's going to wobble when you go to Frisbee, and that's going to, like, obviously lose its velocity and its speed. I don't know. I'm torn on this one.
Tas Millis
Yeah, you're right. You're right in that. Anon can just fall apart, though. I was literally walking by a roof where a guy was working on top of the roof, and he. He signals to me, like, points over. There's a hat like, 15ft down. Like, the roof is like 15ft high. So he's like, you know, go get it for me. Essentially, he's like, can you pass it to me? Oh, it was more like 20 or 25. He was really windy, and I kept trying to throw it up and it kept. It kept being basically to throw up
J. Skeets
a hat to him.
Tas Millis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just walking by. He was. It was like, maybe it was 25ft. It was kind of hard to get down. Like, you'd have to walk all the way around. But anyways. Yeah, he just wanted his hat.
J. Skeets
How many tries to take it?
Tas Millis
Took me like nine.
J. Skeets
Because you're trying. What. What type of hat?
Tas Millis
Irregular hat.
J. Skeets
Like a ball cap. Oh, that'd be tough. If it was like. It was a bucket hat. You'd probably get a little more Frisbee, like.
Tas Millis
Yeah, I guess be maybe a little easier. But I scrum. Scrunch it up as.
J. Skeets
Oh, you went. So it didn't work.
Tas Millis
Yeah, it didn't work really well at all. I had to climb up. No, I didn't climb up. I got it up there. Eventually I had to get a roofing
J. Skeets
license around in my HOA to then climb up a ladder in the end of my hat. All right, that's rapid fire. Not so rapid.
Tas Millis
And another contribution from Diz Cup.
J. Skeets
We might have a new camera come Monday morning for jd.
Tas Millis
Well, we also might have a beer fridge because disc up said it. This one's for your beer fridge. A beer fridge. We have a normal kind of fridge.
J. Skeets
Yeah, we're good.
Tas Millis
That I gotta put the. This is going towards lights and camera.
J. Skeets
Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I think just to now spite tasks, you should put string lights up behind you and just be looking at you every time. Well, man, I'd love to have those in my. On my house, but I can't.
Tas Millis
I break the rules. No problem. Clothesline and string lights behind me.
J. Skeets
Yeah, that's smart. You can put a different shirt up every day. That's smart.
Tas Millis
I'll bring my wet laundry here to hang up behind.
J. Skeets
Sure, man.
Tas Millis
Rules here.
J. Skeets
There is no rules here. Did you see the live stream we did for a watch party? Just turned into guys doing jump farts. They know rules here, baby. All right, we'll call it there. As a long edition of the Drop podcast, we got a lot to talk about. Lamella Ball being moved to the wolves. Beef stew going to the Grizzlies. What's going on with Jalen Duran and obviously Austin Reeves a lot there. So hopefully if you enjoyed it, hit the like button. Subscribe. We're back on Monday. Unless there's an emergency podcast this weekend, there's a lot of chatter. Last night when I was getting ready to go to bed around Jaylen Brown. I think Shams is saying this morning they're asking for four first round picks. That's what the Celtics want. He was reporting that. So are we getting. I don't, you know, are we getting close?
Tas Millis
It's hilarious.
J. Skeets
I believe it's happening to you.
Tas Millis
I don't think so. Yeah, it has to be somebody great like this talk for potentially Kawhi talk. I mean, not necessarily going to the Celtics, but Kawhi talks to the Pistons. Like, I think it would have to be that good of a player. Really, really, really good for them to be able to do it. But now Jalen Brown is. He's in where? He's Europe. In Europe or something.
J. Skeets
He's guess so.
Tas Millis
Yeah. And. And he's having this back and forth. He was asked about his comments and he's defending himself and he called out Stephen A. Smith oh, yeah, yeah. And then Stephen A. Smith went back at him. That's all.
J. Skeets
All right, we'll wait to see if Jalen Brown gets traded. If it happens, we'll likely have an emergency podcast some point this weekend. Otherwise, we're here Monday to break down all the news from the next 48 hours or so and maybe get in some World cup talk. Oh, man, I didn't even talk about my World cup experience.
Tas Millis
Oh, you didn't.
J. Skeets
We just had so much to talk about. Well, the short story is it was goddamn awesome. It was incredible. I saw Morocco 4, Haiti 2 on Wednesday night here in Atlanta. Electric atmosphere was. It was so, so fun. So, yeah, if you have a chance, go to a World cup game. You know, it's not cheap, but it was, it was honestly worth it. I had so much fun. All right, back on Monday. Till then, Clover bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time.
Tas Millis
Turn up.
J. Skeets
Love you guys. Awesome.
Tas Millis
Thanks for joining us. And remember Marina Mabry, tight tied the WNBA single game scoring record with 53 for the tempo yesterday. Dropping those threes.
J. Skeets
Nine threes made tied another WNBA record.
Tas Millis
Yeah, deep threes.
J. Skeets
Oh, my gosh, she was cool. 53. Yeah. So it's her and a couple other.
Tas Millis
Did asia get to 50?
J. Skeets
Yeah. A.J. wilson got. And then Liz Cambridge, I think.
Tas Millis
Oh, yeah, Those are the three now. Tempo 500, I was gonna say.
J. Skeets
Not bad for an expansion team.
Tas Millis
Not bad at all.
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Hosts: J. Skeets, Tas Melis, JD
Podcast: No Dunks (iHeartPodcasts)
This episode dives deep into several seismic NBA offseason moves—including the blockbuster Lamelo Ball-to-Wolves trade—detailing ramifications for the Timberwolves and Hornets, the Pistons’ pivot after an Isaiah Stewart trade and tricky Jalen Duren negotiations, the Lakers locking up Austin Reaves to a max deal, and other notable league updates. The crew debates roster construction, off-court motivations, and speculates on emerging storylines in a signature fast-paced, irreverent tone.
Tas: "You gotta start with Minnesota… I'm just excited to watch them in the regular season. And I say regular season because I'm not betting on them in the playoffs with Lamelo Ball." (04:38)
Tas: "It’s Tim Connelly’s M.O…. Feels like it’s one final big swing here to try and make this work with Lamelo Ball beside Anthony Edwards." (07:52)
Grades:
Memorable Moment:
Skeets: "Can you imagine the first postgame interview after an Ant game-winner or a Lamelo game-winner?" (10:36)
Notable Stat:
Lamelo led the league in threes attempted last year (740). (25:48)
"It’s Tim Connelly’s M.O…. Feels like it’s one final big swing here to try and make this work with Lamelo Ball beside Anthony Edwards." – Skeets (07:52)
"Are they going to be much worse than they were last year? That’s the question." – Tas (11:48)
"It's wild...very fun...but I think there's concern that, oh, this will be awesome for four months, and then maybe Ant will get tired of Lamelo and the way he plays." – Skeets (20:15)
On Lamelo: "[Connolly is] betting on Lamelo Ball's health…on Ant enjoying playing beside another ball-dominant co-star." – Skeets (21:10)
"It's a B+ for the Hornets. And sounds so weird because they gave up the best player, but I think they did really well to get that first round pick." – Tas (38:31)
"This deal screams a little bit Zach LaVine 2.0 to me." – Skeets (60:33)
"He’s earned it, definitely in the regular season. Now he’s got to show it in the playoffs." – Tas (58:38)
Irreverent, informed, and conversational, with moments of analysis interwoven with jokes and ongoing pod lore (“It’s wild, it’s insane, but awesome for us as basketball fans!”). The show maintains its blend of basketball geekery and loose banter, creating a highly accessible but deep-dive experience for dedicated NBA fans.
Next up: Emergency pod if Jalen Brown is traded; otherwise, tune in Monday for more NBA and World Cup coverage.