The Latest NBA Trade Slop For Jaylen Brown, Kawhi Leonard, Ja Morant & More!

Summary

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No Dunks – June 29, 2026: The Latest NBA Trade Slop for Jaylen Brown, Kawhi Leonard, Ja Morant & More!

Hosts: J. Skeez, Tas Melis, JD
Episode Theme: The panel returns to serve up the “Slop Scale” and break down swirling NBA trade rumors and the latest confirmed transactions. They dissect potential blockbuster moves for stars like Jaylen Brown, Kawhi Leonard, and Ja Morant, then cover all the moving pieces of free agency, draft pick swaps, and the latest on role players and team building strategies.

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Table of Contents

• Slop Scale Explained
• Segment 1: Jaylen Brown Trade Rumors (to Blazers, Nuggets, Others)
• Segment 2: Kawhi Leonard Trade Slop (Raptors, Mavs, Spurs)
• Segment 3: Ja Morant “Flagrantly” Available
• Segment 4: Pelicans, Warriors, & Trey Murphy III’s Trade Value
• Segment 5: Suns-Hornets Trade (Miles Bridges, Allen, O’Neale)
• Segment 6: Free Agency & Minor Moves Roundup
• Notable Quotes
• Closing Thoughts & What’s Next

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Slop Scale Explained (03:23)

• “The heavier, the juicier, the sloppier the NBA trade rumor, the more buckets of slop we assign to it.”
  —J. Skeez [04:14]

• 1 Bucket of Slop = “Come on, this is old news, nothing.”

• 5 Buckets = “You’re very into said trade rumor. Maybe you buy it.”

• The hosts assign “buckets of slop” to each rumor/transaction based on plausibility, buzz, and potential impact.

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Segment 1: Jaylen Brown Trade Rumors (04:48)

Teams in Play: Portland Trail Blazers, Boston Celtics, Denver Nuggets, Raptors, Nets, Hornets, Hawks, Clippers

• Blazers’ Pursuit: Portland is “aggressively” pursuing Jaylen Brown. The hosts explore plausible trade packages.
  • Tas: “I’m giving it two buckets of slop because I don’t think these two teams see eye to eye on the package.” [05:20]
  • Celtics would want Donovan Clingan, Scoot Henderson + picks, but Blazers are balking.
  • Draft capital — unprotected picks from Bucks, Magic, Celtics; pick swaps could sweeten the deal.
  • “Three first-round picks, Jeremy Grant for salary, Shaden Sharp… I'd do that in a nanosecond if I'm Portland.” —J. Skeez [07:47]
  • Celtics require a star-caliber player, not just picks or young prospects.

Brown’s Frustration

• Discussion of Jaylen’s irritation with trade rumors and the media.
• Quoting Jaylen Brown’s tweet:

  “Analytics nowadays used to discredit and control narratives. Roll the ball out. None of these guys are better than me on both ends.” [16:35]

Potential Nuggets Deal

• “Jamal Murray and Cam Johnson for Jaylen Brown and Sam Hauser. … Celtics need a player desperately… Jamal Murray coming back, yeah, we’re talking about a Jamal Murray and Derrick White backcourt.”
  —Tas [11:03]

Other Teams Linked: Raptors, Nuggets, Nets, Hornets, Hawks, Clippers.

• “Jaylen Brown to Denver would change the Nuggets completely… Their whole identity is the Murray–Jokic pick-and-roll.” —J. Skeez [12:12]

Summary: Panel sees lots of buzz, but not much imminent movement on a Portland–Boston deal, unless Blazers blow Celtics away. Nuggets, Raptors among dark horses.

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Segment 2: Kawhi Leonard Trade Slop (23:25)

Teams in Play: Mavericks, Raptors, San Antonio Spurs

• Dallas Interest:
  • Mavericks and Clippers have discussed Kawhi for PJ Washington, Klay Thompson, and picks.
• Raptors Reunion:
  • Toronto tied to potential deal; “would prefer to include Brandon Ingram rather than RJ Barrett.”
  • “Toronto Raptors lead the way here...[Kawhi] would be signing an extension with Toronto.” —Tas [25:30]
  • Only teams Kawhi would sign an extension with: Toronto and San Antonio—per Shams

Slop Scale Rating:

• “Give me three buckets of slop... this is a team that needs a number one option. ... It is scary that he's 35 today. No doubt. But he had a healthy season.” —Tas [25:57, 27:10]

Complications

• Ongoing investigation of Clippers’ alleged salary-cap circumvention for Kawhi
• Panel notes Mavs don’t have much draft capital to offer; not convinced by Dallas’ packages.
• Raptors offer of Ingram/Barrett, Poeltl, plus picks could work, but Kawhi’s age/health is a risk.

Memorable Moment:

“I can't imagine Kawhi getting traded to the Raptors with one year left on his deal. What would they even trade, a ceiling-capping midrange-heavy wing scorer, Jakob Poeltl, and a pick? That is a very good tweet because that's exactly what they traded the first time.” —J. Skeez [31:14]

Summary:

• Raptors have feasible assets and history; Spurs less likely.
• Mavs and others are longshots due to lack of desirable package or extension appeal for Kawhi.

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Segment 3: Ja Morant “Flagrantly” Available (33:00)

Team in Play: Grizzlies, Heat, (also: potential three-team constructs with Celtics/Blazers)

• "Brian Windhorst described Ja Morant as 'flagrantly available.'" [33:00]

  • "Fill up the buckets, all of them. I think it's five. I think it's time." —Tas [33:29]

• Memphis Era Ending?

  • “We are not going to see Ja Morant in a Grizzlies uniform again.”
  • Grizzlies looking to reset around Cam Boozer, Cedric Coward, Isaiah Stewart.
  • Miami Heat floated as a fit (John could use a culture reboot, Pat Riley loves big swings).

Potential Trades

• Ja to Heat: Could Wiggins and Davion Mitchell match salary?

• Ja to Celtics in three-team deal: Brown to Portland, Grant + talent to Memphis. Skepticism—Celtics would want health and reliability, and Ja’s fit is questionable.

• “This is crazy... we would have debates about rank them: Ja Morant, Trae Young, and LaMelo Ball... and well, when Ja is eventually traded… all three guys have been dealt within a calendar year.” —J. Skeez [39:02]

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Segment 4: Pelicans, Warriors, & Trey Murphy III Trade Value (39:45)

• Trey Murphy III:

  • Pelicans asking for three first-round picks (slop scale: 4 buckets).
  • “Trey Murphy's a great player... I don't think it happens right now…I think they're still going to give it one more chance here to start the season, and then when it falls apart, Trey Murphy becomes available." —Tas [40:17]

• Other Pelicans on the Block:

  • Herb Jones, listening but not shopping.
  • KOC reported multiple offers of “two firsts”—Pelicans holding out for more.

• Warriors Slop:

  • Draymond Green declines $27.7M option for flexibility.
  • Rumored goal: sign LeBron, possibly trade for Anthony Davis.
  • “For LeBron, five [buckets]; for Anthony Davis, one.” —Tas [44:11]
  • Talks of a possible “Big Four” with Steph, Dray, LeBron, AD—wild but unlikely.

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Segment 5: Suns-Hornets Trade (Miles Bridges, Allen, O’Neale) (51:08)

• Deal: Hornets trade Miles Bridges, 2029 1st, 2027 2nd to Suns for Grayson Allen, Royce O’Neale, & 2033 1st.

• Reaction:

  • “Hornets win this trade... they get a better pick, added depth, avoid a messy extension with Bridges.” —Tas [51:09]
  • Hornets lineup: Kobe White, Con Knippel, Brandon Miller, Nas Reid, Musa Diabate — deep and modern.
  • Skeets: “We don't need to dance around... Miles Bridges did something reprehensible... I would not be happy if I'm a Suns fan.”

• On Suns:

  • “This was not a very good trade… does not move the needle, and you’re going to be paying Bridges.” —Skeets [56:09]
  • Cites Suns’ Michigan State heavy front office and questionable direction.
  • “Are they not done? Maybe Jalen Green for Ja Morant?” (Speculation of more trades)

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Segment 6: Free Agency & Minor Moves Roundup (59:65)

• Thunder Extension: Isaiah Hartenstein, 3yrs/$75M — “Good for the Thunder, he’s their glue... Chet needed support.” —Tas [60:20]
• OKC Cap Management: Staying under the second apron via options and trades (detailed).
• Detroit Adds a Shooter: Isaiah Joe from OKC for two seconds — “Exactly what the Pistons needed: more shooting after losing Malik Beasley.” —J. Skeez [67:04]
• Malik Beasley indicted: “Unfortunate news, and Pistons had to pivot.”
• Other Notes:
  • Fred VanVleet, Zach LaVine, DeAndre Ayton, Daron Sharpe all opt in.
  • James Harden declining option, negotiating new deal with Cavs (expected, lower AAV).
  • Several role players ink new contracts or team options exercised/declined (Alvarado, Ron Harper Jr., Draymond News, Jonathan Isaac waived by Magic, Buddy Hield situation with Atlanta).
  • “Why are the Hawks guaranteeing Heald’s $9.65 million? It’s about salary matching and trades.” —J. Skeez [81:00]

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Notable Quotes

• "Analytics nowadays used to discredit and control narratives. Roll the ball out. None of these guys are better than me on both ends." —Jaylen Brown (read by Skeets) [16:35]
• "This is crazy... Ja Morant, Trae Young, LaMelo Ball, all traded within a calendar year. It's crazy." —J. Skeez [39:02]
• "The Hornets win this... They're getting a better pick, and they're moving on from a player they didn't want to pay or keep around." —Tas [51:12]
• “You want to roll out 10, 11, 12 guys. That's what Hornets have now, and they're a .500 team, at minimum.” —Tas [52:40]
• "If John Collins gets traded, we're not doing an emergency podcast." —J. Skeez [86:32]

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Closing Thoughts & What’s Next (84:00)

• Panel will host a live free agency special Tuesday, June 30 at 5:30pm ET.
• Emergency pods promised if Jaylen Brown, Kawhi Leonard, Ja Morant, LeBron, or AD are traded.
• Final discussions on potential landing spots for John Collins, Spurs’ eyes on bigs, and open speculation on Heat, Spurs, others filling out rosters.
• Classic No Dunks sign-off: “Brace the day, people!”

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode offered a thick stew of NBA rumor-mongering, analytical trade dissection, and deadpan No Dunks humor. The “Slop Scale” lens enhanced analysis of the league’s biggest rumor mill headlines—centered on three former All-Stars likely (or unlikely) to be moved this summer. The panel balanced basketball savvy with open discussion of off-court controversies (re: Miles Bridges) and the business aspects of cap navigation. Casual and hardcore NBA fans alike will find value in their insights and foresight on the direction of the league’s teams and superstars.

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Key Segments & Timestamps

• Slop Scale Explanation [04:14]
• Jaylen Brown Trade Slop [04:48–20:23]
• Kawhi Leonard Rumors [23:25–33:00]
• Ja Morant Availability [33:00–39:45]
• Trey Murphy III and Warriors Big Game Hunting [39:45–51:08]
• Suns-Hornets Trade Dissection [51:08–59:37]
• Transaction & Free Agency Roundup [59:37–84:00]
• Closing/What’s Next [84:00–End]

— End of Summary —

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[J. Skeez]

Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the no Dunks podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Monday, June 29, 2026. I'm J. Skeez here in the classic factory and alongside me as always, Tas Millis.

[Tas Millis]

It's free agency time over yonder.

[J. Skeez]

Making the magic happen. Super producer JD Hello. There he is. Here we are. Trey Kirby on his way back to Atlanta as we speak. I hope he stops at a Buc ee's. Oh, I hope he stops at a Buc ee's. Hello to everybody joining us live on YouTube. Hit the like button. Subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. There's actually something else you need to do if you're joining us on YouTube live. You got to keep us up to date on Sean's notifications. We'll try our best while we're actually doing a show, but this guy's dropping things left and right. They're dropping a lot of player options being picked up or declined. And we'll get into those later.

[Tas Millis]

And players being indicted on federal charges.

[J. Skeez]

Yes, yes, that.

[Tas Millis]

We'll get to those two.

[J. Skeez]

We'll also talk about the Hornets trading some guy to the Phoenix Suns. The Thunder, they made some moves over the weekend and we got a bunch of other transactions. But first task, NBA trade rumors are at an all time high right now. So let's feed the piggies and bring back the slop scale. Yee ha. Farmer tasks. And farmer Skeets here.

[Tas Millis]

Trey should stop at a Buc EE's, but should also just stop at a farm, see if the pigs are out. I saw Piggy at a farm here in Georgia yesterday. Piggy's fourth smartest animal I've heard.

[J. Skeez]

Oh, well, they know a lot about trade rumors, that's for sure.

[Tamara Judge]

So.

[J. Skeez]

So we are going to weigh in on the latest NBA trade rumors using the slop scale. If this is your first time joining us here on no Dunks. The heavier, the juicier, the sloppier the NBA trade rumor, the more buckets of slop we assign to it, right? All right, so five buckets of slop. Very exciting. You're very into said trade rumor. Maybe you buy it. For all I know, one bucket of slop and you're like, come on. You know, maybe this is old news. This is nothing. Whatever. However you want to interpret it yeah.

[Tas Millis]

Okay.

[J. Skeez]

Okay. Well, let's get into it. First one.

[Tas Millis]

Let's do it.

[J. Skeez]

The Blazers are still exploring the idea of trading for Jaylen Brown with free agency on the horizon. In fact, Stein and Fisher are. Slop Kings report that Portland is aggressively pursuing Brown, a player they have coveted since Dame's first tenure with the franchise. Now, there are a lot of angles. We can go with Jaylen Brown here. And we'll get to the whole analytics part as well. He was angry on Twitter this weekend, but the Trailblazers aggressively pursuing Jalen Brown. How many buckets of slop?

[Tas Millis]

I'm giving it two buckets of slop because I don't think these two teams see eye to eye on the package.

[J. Skeez]

Okay.

[Tas Millis]

Now, I understand Portland's going to go after them, but Boston wants to win now, so that would mean that Portland's going to give up a good player. I don't know if Portland is willing to do that. I went through the packages that Boston would actually accept and actually work. Thanks, Spot Track for this. So these are the levels here. Denny and Drew, Denny Abdia and Drew Holiday. That would be a package that Boston would accept. But Denny Abdia is not being traded from the Portland Trailblazers according to rumors. And I totally believe that he's off the table. Yeah. And then here's a second level of package that I do believe. Boston would accept. Donovan clinging along with Drew and Scoot Henderson. That would work for Jalen Brown, Just straight up, no picks. But apparently the Blazers don't want to include Donovan clinging it.

[J. Skeez]

Right.

[Tas Millis]

I believe that as well.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[Tas Millis]

Tom Dunan's got a new team. I think that would make sense now. Boston would come back and say, okay, okay, how about how. Let's lower it a little bit. How about Clingan, Jeremy Grant and Scoot Henderson? And then still, I think the Blazers say no. Let me get to another level that we can start talking about, I think, on both sides. Jeremy Grant, Scoot Henderson and Tommani Camaro. Maybe there's the pick swaps that they own for the Milwaukee Bucks, which are juicy. In 29 and 30, you can basically get the Bucks trade or the Bucs draft pick. That's where I think we're talking about a trade. But I just don't know if the Celtics are willing to go that low. You go back and you look at Jalen Brown's rumors over the years, it's always for a really good player. We're talking cream of the crop. It's Kevin Durant, it's Yanzidegunbo, So when we're talking about the Blazers, Denny is the start. They're going to say no to that. Then we get into the clinging talk along with some other parts because the money has to work. I just don't see it working. Now. The Blazers are going to be talking. It's Jalen Brown. I understand that, but I don't know what the Blazers come in and do here. I think, I think they're trying to find a good deal. You know, Tom Dunn made his money off subprime auto loans and the Celtics got too good a credit for that. I think the bargaining may happen here. But you think they're doing it. I think the picks obviously is a part of it.

[J. Skeez]

Oh, I think the picks is a huge part of it. I think any deal with Portland is centered around draft capital.

[Tas Millis]

But what about players? It's got to be a players.

[J. Skeez]

Well, there's players here, there's young prospects. As you went through, Clingan would be the big hold up. I mean the Celtics are going to ask for him. Whether the Blazers are like, oh, we sort of thought he's our center of the future here, we'd love to hold on to him. But there's Scoot Henderson, there's Shane Sharp, Tamani Kamara. There's like good younger players here. In addition to all this draft capital, they have all their own first round picks. They have unprotected picks from the Bucks, Magic and Celtics and they also have valuable pick swaps from the Bucks in 28 and 30. So you can put together a lot of draft capital to sort of take a stab here at Jaylen Brown. If I'm the Blazers, I'm probably trading let's say three first round picks again, some of them not yours, Grant, because of his contract for salary matching purposes, 34 million. And let's say Shaden Sharp. I'd do that in a nanosecond, right instantly if I'm Portland for Jalen Brown. But am I having more of a conversation if it's three first round picks? It's Grant, it's Sharp, it's clinging for Jalen Brown and like Cater or something like that. Whoever else has to come back. Yeah, okay, then I'm, I'm probably still doing it.

[Tas Millis]

You're getting rid of clinging is, is, is sort of the hang up with the players wise. I think that's what it comes down to because it's a lot of money for Jaylen Brown so you have to have a big contract going back the other way and basically it kind of centers money wise, it centers around either Jeremy Grant or Jrue Holiday. And then the key part, player wise, is Donovan Klingen to throw along with that player. Because the Celtics. Why I lack in slops here is that they need to win this. This whole Jaylen Brown Incredible player, top 6 in MVP voting is not just going to be thrown away for some good picks down the road. In my opinion, there needs to be a really, really, really good player. And it's not Jeremy Grant, it's not Scoot Henderson, it's not Shane Sharp. In my opinion, Donovan Clingan can be the hang up as long as those are juicy picks behind him. Because as I said, they've only wanted to trade for top 50 players of all time or top 20 players of all time, I should say in Durant and Yanistan.

[J. Skeez]

You don't think Jeremy Grant is that.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. If it's, if it's literally, if it's Grant Sharp and to money Kamara or. Or more. More likely Grant Scoot and to money Kamara, I don't think it happens for

[J. Skeez]

the Boston Celtics just how desperately they want out of. Or how desperately they want out of the Jalen Brown right business or Jaylen Brown wants out of the Boston Celtics business at this point. Yeah, that's sort of what we got into here.

[Tas Millis]

I don't, I don't think Jalen wants

[J. Skeez]

up, but hey, that's just disagree 100% with that. But we'll see. Michael Scotto says Brown has drawn trade interest from various teams here across the league, as some of us expected. I mean, if this guy is on the trade block, there's so many teams lining up for him. The Blazers, obviously, the Raptors, I mean they're sort of linked to every bigger name here right now.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[J. Skeez]

The Nuggets, I'd like to dissect with you. The Nets, the Hornets, the Hawks, the Clippers. There's been a ton of teams here. Again, that's Scotto Slop with Jaylen Brown. Scotto Slopo, Bill Simmons I heard with Zach Lowe yesterday, I guess or last night saying Celtics Nuggets, Jalen Brown to Denver.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, that one's good.

[J. Skeez]

Let's say Jamal Murray and Cam Johnson for Jalen Brown and Sam Houser.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, I do think so.

[J. Skeez]

You like that one more it sounds like from what both sides.

[Tas Millis]

Well, again, I think the Celtics need a player desperately. I don't think this is just about picks. I think Brad Stevens is here to win. And so Jamal Murray coming back yeah, we're talking about a Jamal Murray and Derrick White backcourt with. With Tatum and the guys that they've still retained, you know, the. The. The Shireman beside him, that type of thing. Depending on what the Blazers are willing to do, I think that makes a lot of sense on both sides and that the Nuggets may want to just mix it up. But, wow, you know, the Nuggets have a huge perspective, a huge job to do in. In bringing Peyton Watson back. And so that may change things with Jalen Brown because they're going to pay a lot for Peyton Watson. But, yeah, the Nuggets may want to switch it up as well.

[J. Skeez]

Aar Gordon's name is on the trade block here as well. Maybe he's involved in some sort of trade.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. Older getting hurt, unfortunately, the last couple seasons with the hamstrings, So I wonder what the Celtics are thinking about that.

[J. Skeez]

And we've talked before about the Nuggets, like, okay, maybe it's Aaron Gordon, but it's more likely they're trying to move Cam Johnson or they're trying to move Christian Brown, who obviously signed that big deal.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, that'll be tough to do.

[J. Skeez]

Maybe you get to the point where you have to trade a player of Jamal Murray's quality to get obviously a good, good player in Jalen Brown. But, man, would that change the Nuggets and how they play? The Nuggets are Jamal Murray and Jokic pick and roll. Like, now. That's just a completely different offense. This was the best. One of the best offenses we've seen in the NBA when they're healthy and out there on the floor.

[Tas Millis]

And Jamal Murray's coming off his best regular season of his career.

[J. Skeez]

I know. So this would be one hell of a switch up. And you start going, what's going on with all these teams? Everyone's like, you know, the Minnesota Timberwolves have made a big move. Other squads are, like, really shaking things up here. It's like, is it a bit of keeping up with the Joneses if this is to go down? Portland makes more sense in, like, wow, that's a top wherever you have Jalen Brown, is he top 10, top 15, wherever. That's a talented player. You got Dame coming back. You other have young guys. It's like, makes sort of more sense. Like, you're like, all right, we have an ability to get this guy. Let's go get him.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

Denver more of a swap of good players.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, yeah, right. And Portland's got a variety of picks, their own far, far down the road. But the Milwaukee Bucks picks.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah. So they could do it with draft capital.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

So if, if that's high, high, high on Brad Stevens and Celtics, like, wish list for, for Jalen Brown, then they're, you know, one of the few teams that realistically could put together a lot of draft capital for him, you know, in the three, four, five first round picks type of things. Five. I don't think we're seeing that anymore, but you know what I mean? Three or four.

[Tas Millis]

So why do you think Jaylen Brown hates the idea of going back to Boston or doesn't want to, doesn't like the idea of going back to Boston?

[J. Skeez]

Well, because they've put his name in trade rumors. And yeah, it was for Yanis. And you can say as much as you want. It's for Yanis, man. It's not disrespectful. And I hear you. I get that. But he also, and we've gone over this a million times already, it feels like. It's like he feels disrespected. And then I don't think all this stuff that happened over the weekend helps at all. And that's no fault of the Celtics, unless it was their analytics guy, their anonymous analytics guy that said he was the seventh best player on a team, which I doubt it was. But I just think he feels slighted here, this idea of a refresh. Here's the other way to look at this. I saw Sam from, you know, Ball write about this over the weekend. I shared and I thought it was a good point. Maybe what happened last year is that Boston expected to be a mediocre team with no Tatum, and then suddenly they're just as surprised as everybody else that they're like a second third seed there in the Eastern Conference. Very, very good, led by Jaylen Brown. But think about what they did at the trade deadline. The Celtics last year, they did next to nothing. They traded Simons for Vuch. Vuch. Now, okay. Yeah. Was it trying to balance the roster a little bit? Maybe you were going to get something from the big position from Vuch, which he didn't ultimately give them. Point is, they were like, looking at this like it was more of like, get under the tax type move. Not a lot of belief in the team, even with Jason Tatum coming back. So the thinking is here, like, they maybe have been, like, getting to this sort of point of splitting up the Jays and getting off of Jaylen Brown and sticking with Tatum and switching things up for a while now, not just what's happened here. And not just the twitch stream and all that. Like, it's sort of been like they've been sort of moving towards this idea. I think there's. That's possible. Who knows?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, the trade deadline. I don't know if there's options to get better. I mean, they did a good job of getting cheaper by trading away Drew Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis. I don't know if they really had the assets to go say, hey, we're getting better and Jason Tatum's going back. So I don't think that really played a factor. I just think Jalen Brown likes to talk. He's a vocal person. He likes to be himself. And we're seeing a lot of that. And people are saying, okay, that that must mean that he doesn't want to be in Boston. They seem to back him. Other than a couple trade rumors over the years, they stuck with him. I want to see what happens if, you know, whatever the conversations are behind the. Behind doors. Is he saying, I don't want to be here? I guess that's possible. But to me, I just think he likes to talk, he likes to express himself, and that's cool. And so we shall see.

[J. Skeez]

We shall see. Let's slip this in here while we're talking about Jaylen Brown. So during a recent radio interview, ESPN's Bobby Marks said front offices across the NBA have mixed feelings about Jaylen Brown and suggested that at least one analytics employee, an anonymous person here, viewed Jaylen Brown as like the seventh best player on a given team. Jaylen Brown, he likes to talk. And he likes to tweet as well. Task. He fired back at that notion on Saturday. He tweeted, among other things, quote, analytics nowadays used to discredit and control narratives. Roll the ball out. None of these guys are better than me on both ends. And he also tweeted, nobody has one more combined regular season and playoff game since I entered the league 10 years ago. True fact. And he added, analytics have. Are ruining the game we play in AI hoops. And let me tell you, Taz, I don't know how online you were this weekend, but this anonymous random analytics guy sparked quite the conversation on Twitter about, you know, analytics in basketball and him pushing back, I guess, against this idea. Any thoughts on any of this?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, this random analytics person who said something to Bobby Marks, who. Bobby Marks then later came on and defended himself on Twitter and. Yeah. And said, I listened to the whole

[J. Skeez]

clip, by the way. Yeah. Which he was. Sorry, don't jump in there.

[Tas Millis]

No. Well, you're yeah. What you're about to say is that Bobby said, listen, he was having a good time talking on radio and he relaying something that he heard. But what was lifted from that clip was one little thing. And what wasn't lifted is that of course I want you on my team. As Bobby marks said, you're 191 and 80 over the last four years, record wise, top 10 player. And of course you're going to help win a championship. But that part didn't make it. But that's the media in 2026. As Bobby Marks said, the juice of the lemon. Is that dumb. That. That one comment where Bobby is just saying, hey, behind the scenes, that's what someone said to me. Is he the seventh best player on any team? I mean, you put two all star teams out there and he's on Team usa.

[J. Skeez]

Maybe.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, maybe. Maybe he's depending on what team you kind of run out there.

[J. Skeez]

Exactly. This is. That's why this was hilarious and dumb. And like, I almost wondered if like Bobby Marks was just. I don't think he's lying, but like, you know, like just exaggerating a little too much here on the radio. Like really seventh best.

[Tas Millis]

Somebody said he's a pretty efficient player. It's not like, yeah, he was efficient even though he shot the most twos in the NBA this past season per game.

[J. Skeez]

Well, people like to point out that the Celtics were better when Jalen Brown was off the floor this year.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, sure. So there.

[J. Skeez]

I guess that means they're just better without him. That's why they're trading him. Tests. Maybe that's the real reasoning here.

[Tas Millis]

His game looks.

[J. Skeez]

It was very silly.

[Tas Millis]

This game's looking good in the off season in China. Watch the clip. He. He's in China.

[J. Skeez]

He's in France, baby.

[Tas Millis]

France.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah, man.

[Tas Millis]

Getting them all confused. Who's in China anyways? He was playing one on one. Kyrie, you look good. Well, Jalen Brown's balling. He's looking good, looking like the. At least the sixth best player on a team.

[J. Skeez]

So before we move on, you got this at two buckets of slot and it sounds like you still believe that they all can run this back and Brown could be a part of the.

[Tas Millis]

Absolutely. They can run this back now if they're. If they're sold by Tom Dundon and Joe Cronin over there and they think about it. Sure. If you're going to overwhelm us with a package to get a guy who's under contract, that's a part of it for the Blazers. Tom Dunn comes and purchases this team. I don't think he's going to get Kawhi Leonard for a year. Who's not signing an extension with the Portland Trailblazers. Highly unlikely. So yeah, that's part of it. If they can overwhelm and basically keep those those two lanes going like the the current championship type of team with the Celtics and then a future with the Celtics with draft picks and all that like as the warriors were trying to do forever. Yeah, of course Brad Stevens would be smart to think about that.

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let's go to him. Here he is drawing interest from several teams. According to the Athletic, the Mavericks and Clippers have discussed a deal that would send the seven time All Star to Dallas for a package that would include P.J. washington, Klay Thompson and draft picks. Another possible reunion would see Kawhi returning to Toronto. Yes, Jake Fisher says the Raps would prefer to include Brandon INGRAM Rather than R.J. barrett in any Kawhi deal. So we're we're lumping these two together. These two reports here task Kawhi drawing interest from the Mavs and the Raptors in trade discussions. How many buckets of slop?

[Tas Millis]

Give me three buckets of slop. I've been listening to all Kawhi interviews and if there's anyone who actually conveys what's going on inside that head, I think it is Kawhi a little bit because he doesn't talk much. Um, and when he does talk with the loss about the Los Angeles Clippers and their future, he talks about Garland coming into a role. But even then he's not super convinced that this team is going to be good. Is this team going to be good? Him? Garland after trading Zubots? It's it's highly unlikely that they're going to be good. He's got one year left. I think the Toronto Raptors lead the way here as far as packages that can go back. Okay, when we're talking about Toronto versus Dallas, even versus San Antonio, who San Antonio. I don't think has the desire to give them the best package possible. I just don't think the Kawhi Wemby. Those two paths don't. Don't coincide. Kawaii is old, but I do think the Raptors who have said it's nice that we had this run here where we gave a good run in a first round series against Cleveland Cavaliers, but we need to get better. Bobby Webster has said that and it could be via trade and the front office I think would be. They would fulfill that. Exactly what Bobby Webster said. So ideally, yeah, it's Ingram and probably, you know, the numbers work with Purdle plus a pick. Ideally for the Raptors. They'd rather have Ingram go out than RJ Barrett. I think that's clear to see what happened in the postseason.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tas Millis]

If they got a. If they got to up it, it would be Barrett. Unfortunately for the Toronto Raptors plus Portal plus a pick for a Kawaii who would be signing an extension with Toronto. I think that rumor is legitimate. The only teams that Kawhi would sign an extension with the Toronto Raptors and the San Antonio spurs. And I think the Toronto Raptors would beat the spurs just because of the path that they're on. I don't think the spurs would. They wouldn't do it. I just don't think that they would do an old Kawhi.

[J. Skeez]

Awesome on that team though.

[Tas Millis]

It's like sort of exactly what they could use. But yeah, I just find it odd.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

But maybe I'm wrong. Do they go because he's in his mid-30s. How much more does he have?

[J. Skeez]

He's 35 years old today.

[Tas Millis]

Oh yeah.

[J. Skeez]

Happy birthday, Kawhi. Well, I got you a tree that is a part of this. I have this at two buckets of slop. We last I checked, we still have an investigation going on into the allegation allegations that the Clippers circumvented the salary cap to pay Kawhi extra money. Right. We never got an answer on that. We're still waiting on that.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, Yeah, I was waiting.

[J. Skeez]

Sort of fascinating that he could be traded, let's say before that's resolved.

[Tas Millis]

No, I personally think when they hit. When they hit the Clippers with a fee, draft picks, whatever penalty it is, it's the Clippers and it's not Kawhi.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

Okay, so it doesn't matter. I don't think so.

[J. Skeez]

Put it that way, it's still a little odd to me, but okay.

[Tamara Judge]

Fair, Fair.

[J. Skeez]

And is it even happening? I mean, we Already had the draft, so they didn't get dinged on that draft, obviously.

[Tas Millis]

Right.

[J. Skeez]

What's going on?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, it's unfortunate that it's taken this long.

[J. Skeez]

So you like, you like this for the Raptors though? You would do this?

[Tas Millis]

Oh yeah. Ideally it's Brandon Ingram over RG Barrett as the primary part. If it is Barrett and Purdl, which money wise makes sense. They are super thin up at center. Even though Colin Murray Boyles was an awesome backup center, they would need to solidify that. And it's not Sandra Mahmoud Kalashvili who may or may not be back. It's. It's somebody else. So yeah, I think that makes more sense than the spurs. Whatever. It's a Kelvin Johnson, Devin Vassell and picks. I think that makes more sense. Yeah, I think I would do it. I'd say, hey Kawhi, come on back. Yeah, they do need to take another step up. We saw the limit they have offensively. Even though it was a seven game series, it was an ugly one. They need to. They need to have a number one option. It is scary that he's 35 today. No doubt. But he had a healthy season.

[J. Skeez]

He hasn't played 70 plus games in over a decade.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. So I don't. That's the thing. How much are you giving up? And I think the Raptors don't want to give up a lot. But they may be bidding against themselves. I don't know. I don't know what other teams are.

[J. Skeez]

Well, I mean the reports say Masai Ujiri versus Bobby Webster, Jerry with the Mavs and obviously Bobby Webster and control the Raptors now, which is very funny if this is true.

[Tas Millis]

The Sensei and the student.

[J. Skeez]

You don't seem all that impressed with a PJ Washington, Klay Thompson and then, and then the minimal draft capital that even the Mavs have. They don't have a lot of their draft future. They owe their 27 first round pick to the Hornets unless it falls into the top two. And they have zero control. Their 29 first round pick and their 28 and 30 first rounders are tied up in pick swaps.

[Tas Millis]

Like you don't sound convinced. I'm not.

[J. Skeez]

Well, no, it's not a very good trade return.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. Look, you can start to talk yourself into guys that are down on the roster because Derek Lively has been injured. Maybe he's part of the pushback or the package back but doesn't do it for me. I think, you know, the Raptors have all their picks so I feel like they're kind of bidding against themselves. Maybe I'm wrong. The spurs have a ton, you know, their draft picks that they just made, they have a ton to trade. So maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Buford says, all right, let's bring him back for. The thing is, I, I, I feel like Wemby and that team is more like, like the Thunder long. Let's long play it. Let's just go back with what we have. We were winning in, what was it, 74% of the minutes in the NBA Finals, and we're going to switch it up like that. I think we just got to grow internally. I think that makes more sense.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah, but what I love about him going to the spurs is, is that it's more reminiscent to me of him going and getting traded to the Raptors the first time in 2019 where it's like they were an elite team. The Raptors were really good. And then added Kawhi to level up. He only played 60 games that regular season. It didn't matter. They were still awesome without him out there. They were a veteran team. Now, that's different, obviously, than the Spurs. They're a young team. He'd be the vet guy coming in here, but the idea is like, hey, man, we just need you in the playoffs. Just like, you could slow play them. You don't need to have heavy minutes on them. And then it's just for the playoff series.

[Tas Millis]

I see what you're saying.

[J. Skeez]

Get us a bucket. I mean, we saw it work.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. Yeah. He came and joined six years ago, Pascal Siakam and Kyle Lowry, and it was a good team, but they weren't as good as the spurs were this past season. They got to go. Yeah, but the spurs were so close. The Raptors never smelled an NBA Finals. They were damn close. So I, I don't know what would. They'd have to give up some pieces, too. I mean, it's not like, hey, it's a free agent that would just come in and join us and then disappear for a year or after a year, I should say. So I think the Raptors are bidding against themselves if Kawhi doesn't want to be in LA anymore.

[J. Skeez]

Because that's the, that's the real part here.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. Does he still still want to stay his hometown? Maybe not.

[J. Skeez]

This made me laugh. Trail, bro, dude tweeted yesterday sarcastically, which definitely went over some people's heads. Quote, I can't imagine Kawhi getting traded to the Raptors with one year left on his deal. What would they even trade a ceiling capping mid range heavy wing scorer Jakob Pertle in a pick? That is a very good tweet because that's exactly what they traded the first time back in 2019. Obviously Brandon Ingram would be instead of Demarta Rosen Purdle.

[Tamara Judge]

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[J. Skeez]

Was the same piece and then the pick. Pretty funny.

[Tas Millis]

Very hilarious that they could just do it again.

[J. Skeez]

Problem is like they're on an upward trajectory here, but they are again, the Raptors, where they are now currently constructed is like just not like that team. Exactly, exactly. Which is a huge difference. And that was that. And here's a big difference too. Now he's older, so I get that. But Kawhi, at that time, that was like injured Kawhi, frustration with the spurs front office, how they were managing him and all that. Like, it was like you were, you were buying low. Yeah, he's coming off one of his best seasons he's ever had. I mean, the statistical output he just had is unreal. He was second team all NBA. He's very, very good last year.

[Tas Millis]

So why aren't there juicy rumors out there other than, other than this, he's 35.

[J. Skeez]

One. Yeah, he never plays a full season.

[Tas Millis]

Two, but.

[J. Skeez]

And he has the power of like this idea of the contract extension like Giannis did, where he's like, like there's been a lot of talk of like, Detroit Pistons could use them, of course. And he's like, I'm not going to sign with you.

[Tas Millis]

I'm not signing.

[J. Skeez]

So, like, then you're not training anything. It'd be silly to do that.

[Tas Millis]

I'm only signing an extension. According to Sean's reports, with Toronto and the spurs, two teams. So that, that's, that's a big part of it in comparison to Jalen Brown who signed for a long, long time.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah. Next one here. Appearing on ESPN Radio late last week, Brian Windhorse described John Morant as flagrantly available in trade talks. That's how Wendy put it. So the Grizzlies are determined to move John Morant, who Wind Horse says he can't see playing for the organization ever again. And this echoes a lot of sentiments from other reporters too. Like, we've. We are not going to see John Morant in a Grizzlies uniform again. But how many buckets of slop does Tasmalis put on John Morant flagrantly available.

[Tas Millis]

Fill up the buckets. All of them. I think it's five. I think it's time. This is a different team. This is a Cam Boozer Cedric Coward, now Isaiah Stewart in the lineup. They are looking to have a different identity and starting with those guys. And I think you'll see at the point guard spot along with Scotty Pippen Jr. Walter Clayton to give them a shot. I think this is definitely the team the time I should say that's it's, it's ready to get rid of them. I, I love who is the question. Yeah, it is. I love who.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah, this is the problem.

[Tas Millis]

Well, what about it's a reach now after getting Aniston to Goombo. But the Miami Heat sort of makes sense. It's a reach for sure.

[J. Skeez]

But when you they need a point

[Tas Millis]

guard, you specifically thought, I guess this was four or five months ago. John Moran just needs new place.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

And Miami was at that time when they were looking for a star the team. So the rumored package would be John Morant going to Miami with the possibility of them having to throw in a draft pick to get off of John Moran for, you know, just straight up, money wise. It would work with Andrew Wiggins when he opts in today because we're waiting for the deadline for player options. Andrew Wiggins has a player option. Don't worry, I checked. He hasn't opted in.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Tas Millis]

And Davion Mitchell. So it's Wiggins and Mitchell for Morant and a pick. Do you start to look at the Miami Heat and say okay, okay, I think that John Morant can excel in that organization.

[J. Skeez]

It's. I think I would do it if I'm them and I'm 80 year old Pat Riley for sure. Because your whole thing is obviously trying to take, you know, big swings at big talent and yeah, his, he's, he's being sold very low to the point where you might have to attach a draft pick. That sounds insane to me still, but I get it. Just to get off him if you're Memphis big part is the Wiggins player option. TBD still on that. But yeah, I would be doing that because I'm not ready to give up on John Moran. Yeah. I'm on record saying that. And I don't love the shooting that you'd have on the Miami team because

[Tas Millis]

there wouldn't be a lot of problem

[J. Skeez]

because you've got Giannis and bam. We already got to figure out that problem. Now you got a point guard that is not a high volume three point

[Tas Millis]

shooter and they just don't have any depth.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

So even trading guys like Davion Mitchell, who's their starting point guard and would be great Defensively along with Wiggins. And that's two pieces. And so that is a worry. I've. Yeah, I've scoured to see my spot track trade machine. Who else would be able to take on John Morant? Ain't a lot of options out there.

[J. Skeez]

No, because you look around the rest of the league. Yeah, it's like how many need a starting point guard? I mean some did, but then they had the draft and a lot of them had picks that were high enough to take a. Take a point guard that you would think is their point guard of the future. The Kings just drafted Acuff. The Hawks drafted our guy Kingston Flemings. The Nets drafted Mikel Brown Jr. It's like you start running out of teams that like could realistically use John Moran just at the position. I mean, what about the Raptors to go back to them and they are rumored to be interested. I mean Bobby Webster's got his name in every hat here. You know, quickly as their point guard, would you like John Morant? That's another team that needs shooting though. And this is where he does not flourish.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, what's the package coming back from the Raptors? I think that's another fair question with as I mentioned, those names for the Grizzlies taking them to a new era. Boozer and Cedric Cower, now Isaiah Stewart and they still have Valdama. I don't know what they want would get back from the Raptors, to be honest. Why would they take quickly? They wouldn't. I don't, I don't think the Grizzlies would take quickly at this time. It's not a great contract right now, unfortunately. Quick's got to get back with a good team. Like have a Kawhi out there. They'll see how good he looks with, with Kawhi. But this Miami Heat one seems to make the most sense. But maybe there's a third team involved as well so the Heat don't have to give up two pieces.

[J. Skeez]

Well, I was just going to say that. Now I don't have the Heat in this three team deal. But to go back to the Jalen Brown of it all going to Port, you could get to like a three team sort of package where Jalen Brown goes to Portland.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

Jeremy Grant and then some young guys, be it Scoot Henderson or something like that to Memphis, John Morant Hendricks and then a bunch of draft capital to Boston. Now that's John Morant going to the Boston Celtics. Now you might roll your eyes at that. May not love that. I mean he does when healthy, obviously can put pressure on a rim and get into the paint again, he's not a great three point shooter but he does do the other thing. So I don't know. That's one framework I saw of a three team deal.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, I saw that too. Wasn't super excited about that because also John Morant is great when he plays. He doesn't play a lot, unfortunately. Recently he only played 20 games this season and I know they kept him out for some time because they said okay, what's the point? We don't also may not want you back in that locker room but he gets injured and so I don't know if the Celtics would be wanting to do that because they also want Tatum and Peyton Pritchard when he's out there and Derek White to some degree and Jalen Brown if he comes back handling the ball and jaws jaw can't be part of that. So I don't know. I don't see that. I saw that and I did that. Didn't get excited. Me either.

[J. Skeez]

Okay. Okay. Yeah. This is crazy. I'm just thinking back like I don't know when it was months ago for sure but like we would have debates about rank them or like who do you think's the best of John Morant, Trey Young and Lamelo Ball. Remember doing this?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

And well when John Moran is eventually traded here because I do believe he is going to be moved. All three guys having been dealt like within a calendar year there. Trey Young last year and then obviously Lamello Ball recently and now John Moran. It's crazy.

[Tas Millis]

It is crazy.

[J. Skeez]

Just all three teams electing to move off them.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. And yeah, if I'm remembering correctly, I thought correctly, I thought it was Trey as the best player of the three and he just got paid. I mean when you look at that we're talking about which one would you rather have? Well, the guy who got paid was Trey Young with a monstrous, monstrous contract, which was surprising.

[J. Skeez]

According to Jake Fisher of the Stein Line, the Pelicans are still listening to offers for Trey Murphy and Herb Jones. However, New Orleans isn't actively shopping them and they've rejected every offer to date. Okay. Teams are calling them, they are picking it up and they are listening but they're not saying much and then they're just hanging up. Additionally, the Pelicans asking price for Murphy is reportedly three first round picks slop scale on the Pelicans seeking multiple first round picks for Trey Murphy iii.

[Tas Millis]

Multiple. I think this is high. I'm giving it four Buckets a slop. Now, three picks, that's a lot. But Trey Murphy's a great player. I, I don't think it happens right now. I think they're still going to give it one more chance here to start the season and then when it falls apart like it will, I, I, I, I. Hey Zion, you fooled me last year. This year I'm not going into the season thinking that you're going to do it. You still might lose three of your first six games by 30 plus points like you did last year. After it falls apart, then I do believe Trey Murphy becomes available because he's their best asset. You mentioned Herb Jones wouldn't get as much back. There's a Dejounte Murray in there still. There's Jordan Poole and his expiring deal. There's a Zion, but I think this guy would be the one to get you more picks. And then you start the rebuild with Derek Queen, Jeremiah Fears, Sadiq Bay can get an extension this offseason. Interesting stuff. Even if they signs that, I think Trey Murphy's the guy. So multiple picks? Yeah, I think so.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah. KOC says multiple teams have put two first round picks on the table for Murphy, but Pelicans GM Joe Dumars is pushing for three firsts at least in any discussion. They're just like keep doing this thing like Trey Murphy III's been in trade rumors for a long time now and they keep just doing this thing like if you wow us, if you come over the top, then maybe we'll deal them. Because I remember Stein reporting back in January that the Pelicans wanted the Desmond Bain type offer that took what, four first round picks and a pick swap. So Trey Murphy III can be had, but it's just going to would cost you a ton of draft capital. Now I do Wonder, did the NBA's new lottery reform here change the value of first round picks? Like that's the big sort of like. I'm not sure because one thought is that general managers are likely to prize their own draft capital even more given like the wide variance to where those selections could land. But I guess you could flip that on his head and say the opposite could be true too. Right. Because of the wide variance. It's like we're more likely to sort of not willy nilly throw them around but like to go get good players for sure. Like Tray Murphy iii. Maybe you are, I don't know. Yeah, sort of like we're gonna have to wait and see I think a little bit.

[Tas Millis]

But I hear you. Yeah, it is a little bit of a wait and see. But I do think the Golden State warriors, now we'll get to Draymond Green. His decision on a player option will be willing to be willy nilly and deal the picks that they still have for a Trey Murphy to finally support Steph with a guy who can shoot beside him, they need it. And so those picks, you know, I did my little trade machine, they can work. But yeah, I think right now, Joe Dumars in that front office, they're going to give it a shot here one

[J. Skeez]

more time with Jamal Mosley as a new head coach as well. So you've got that angle. See what he can get out of these guys.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, and maybe Dejounte Murray being there at the beginning of the year, unlike last year when he came back from injury mid season or so. Maybe that's a different. That's a different beast. Maybe. Yeah, maybe.

[J. Skeez]

Well, let's just get this Draymond news in here because there's a lot of rumors of what the warriors are maybe trying to do here, too. Draymond Green is declining his $27.7 million player option to become a free agent, and Shum says this move gives the warriors flexibility here to try and pursue LeBron James to pair up with Steph Curry. And. Or I guess the idea of maybe trading for Anthony Davis. And also Koc was writing about this over the weekend here at Task. So the Warriors, I guess, trying to put together big four, that's the. That's what they're going for here. I mean, if we were throwing on buckets of slop on this. What does Task Melis do here? One bucket or five or somewhere in between.

[Tas Millis]

Well, which part? There's so many.

[J. Skeez]

I know.

[Tas Millis]

There's so many troughs to fill. I mean, it's Anthony Davis and it's LeBron one or the other. It's pretty high for LeBron. Okay, five. They want him. And I. I still think that there's a very good chance that he goes and takes less money and. Or just leaves Los Angeles for Golden State or Cleveland. So that one's high. Anthony Davis 1. That's different. I mean, that's. That's a guy who's under contract. LeBron's a free agent, so the guy.

[J. Skeez]

So they're trading Jimmy Butler in this.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, that's scenario. That's the weird one, right? Yeah. Off to spot track I go. Yeah. It feels. I don't know. Well, they have nothing else.

[J. Skeez]

I mean. Yeah. Let's pod Jemski bake.

[Tas Millis]

He currently makes $5.67 million.

[J. Skeez]

I mean, he's going to get paid a little bit more eventually.

[Tas Millis]

I think they can extend him. If I'm not. You can sign a qualifying offer at 8.66. He can sign him to another contract, I guess. Could be a signing trade to get. But do they have the parts? Do they have the pieces?

[J. Skeez]

Steph Draymond, LeBron and Anthony Davis. Where's that finishing in the Western Conference?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, it sucks because they're old and they bring back Al Horford and apparently they want to bring crap. Being bring back Kristaps for Zingus. Yeah, I mean, there's some young guys on that team, but where are they finishing? Man, that's. Sheesh. Can. Can they finish top four? Am I missing something?

[J. Skeez]

I mean, that would be great.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, it would be great.

[J. Skeez]

This is insane. This sounds insane, but the NBA is so crazy that.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. The weird thing is the. The Anthony Davis part. Making 58 this year and then 62 the next year as a player option. That's a lot. Yeah. The money wise. So you're trading Jimmy?

[J. Skeez]

I think you have to.

[Tas Millis]

Steph, Dre, Ron and Anthony Davis.

[J. Skeez]

Because when is Jimmy even, like, scheduled to be back? He's not starting the season.

[Tas Millis]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[J. Skeez]

He's even. Yeah. I mean, maybe. Maybe later. Is it going to be like a Tatum situation? Is that what we're sort of looking at?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

I didn't think you were hoping. Yeah, maybe not that late.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, I don't think it's that long, but.

[J. Skeez]

All right, we'll wait on this one. We'll have a show, of course, tomorrow too. We plan on doing a free agency special right around the deadline, which is 6pm Eastern, so we'll probably go live around 5:30 or so. We did that last year. It worked out pretty well.

[Tas Millis]

So it did.

[J. Skeez]

We'll do that. But we'll just. For now, the LeBron and the AD and the warriors of it all will just set to the side. We'll take a quick break and then we'll get into the Sun's Hornets trade and many of the other transactions.

[Tas Millis]

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[J. Skeez]

Don't get ahead of yourself.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, man.

[J. Skeez]

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[Tas Millis]

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[J. Skeez]

Let there be at least one goal for Canada. It's all it took. Late extra time. It wasn't the prettiest soccer game I've ever watched. I'll be honest. Even as a die hard Canadian football fan, it was, you know, they outplayed them. I think it was a deserved win.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, I agree.

[J. Skeez]

But it just wasn't the sexiest game.

[Tas Millis]

No. Even the goal not to.

[J. Skeez]

Oh, it was okay.

[Tas Millis]

It was all right. It was a giveaway. Well, I didn't like a giveaway.

[J. Skeez]

No, no.

[Tas Millis]

Directly to your stackio.

[J. Skeez]

I was sort of dreading though, 30 more minutes of that, those two teams because they were looking like they were exhausted by the end too and there was not a lot going on, so.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, but penalty kicks, World cup penalty kicks, like even if you didn't want that. Oh, people like that. I like that.

[J. Skeez]

Have you heard the crazy idea about that, by the way? Because they say once it does get to extra time, like the teams do, sort of like nobody wants to make a mistake.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

So they play fairly reserved. There's a lot of just 30 minutes of extra soccer played and not a lot of like goals scored.

[Tas Millis]

Sure.

[J. Skeez]

I don't, I'm sure like the statistics back it up. But people say you end regulation, it's obviously a tie. You then go right to penalty kicks. Okay, hear me out then whoever wins said penalty kicks is up a goal in the extra time. So it puts the pressure on the team that is trailing to go balls to the wall to try and obviously tie it back up. Now I don't know what happens when they just tie it back up again. What do we do again? Just go back to penalty kicks? I'm not sure.

[Tas Millis]

Sounds.

[J. Skeez]

We were talking about this yesterday.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, extra time definitely sounds more fun that way.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah, I know, I know. But also be very weird.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, yeah. What you do after that. But hell, it's better I do. Yeah. There's a little bit of a prevent offense they play, right?

[J. Skeez]

Yes, exactly. Exactly. Well, I knew Canada was winning yesterday because we had my buddy, your buddy, our buddy, Gresh in attendance and so far.

[Tamara Judge]

Wow.

[J. Skeez]

Matty Austin. Matty O. Himself in the building.

[Tas Millis]

Really?

[J. Skeez]

John John the phenomenon. And then when I really knew we were winning, Ben Gulliver sent me a photo in the building, rocking the Canada kit. Honorary Canadian Ben Gulliver for the day. I was like, we're winning.

[Tas Millis]

What a shock.

[J. Skeez]

We got those four in attendance.

[Tas Millis]

Who's the most shocking that would be there? I think it's Maddie Austin.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah. I mean, Grish and John. John were in la, met up for dinner. You know Dave, he's like, oh, we got to get tickets. We got to get tickets. So they got Matty O to go. Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

So they. Yeah. So he didn't like, he didn't actually go seek tickets. He's just like, oh, no, he paid for you.

[J. Skeez]

He paid for it.

[Tas Millis]

Cool.

[J. Skeez]

It was still a pretty penny to get into the building. They were up top. But that looks like a beautiful stadium too.

[Tas Millis]

That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I like the low angle shots after the game where you see the.

[J. Skeez]

Looks amazing.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, it's cool.

[J. Skeez]

All right, let's get to this trade. On Sunday, the Charlotte Hornets agreed to trade miles bridges, a 2029 first round pick and a 2027 second round pick to the Phoenix Suns in exchange for Grayson Allen, Royce O' Neill, and a 2033 first round pick. Tas, your reaction to this one? Bridges go into Phoenix where we all assume he will sign an extension. I'm not sure why you're trading a 2033 unprotected pick to not eventually do that. But he's got one year left.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

What do you think about this?

[Tas Millis]

I think the Hornets win this pick.

[J. Skeez]

Trade.

[Tas Millis]

Trade. Excuse me. Yeah, the. From the sun's perspective, they get out of money. There's two years left on both Grayson Allen and Royce o' Neill's contract. They're done with that.

[J. Skeez]

So they get out of that money to then only give money to. To Miles Bridges.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, yeah, they have a lot of. Yeah, yeah, that's. I definitely think the Charlotte Hornets win it. They have a lot of sort of in Phoenix, a lot of standard, like average players. You know, they, they, they want to try and get a little bit better. And in theory, you know, as far as players go, getting Miles Bridges over Grayson Allen and Royce o' Neill takes them there. But the Hornets got a better pick in this, the unprotected pick. While there's that they sent to Phoenix, some deal in here, that 2029 first round pick that they sent to Phoenix is the least favorable of the Jazz, Timberwolves or Cavaliers. So the pick that Charlotte gets, again unprotected, way Better they get out of the guy that they didn't want in Bridges because they've moved on. They've gone to a different team after Lamello and Bridges. They've gone to this team. Look at this team that they have here. Kobe White, Conkin Nipple, Brandon Miller, Nas Reed and Musa Diabate as your starters.

[J. Skeez]

Sure.

[Tas Millis]

Their bench now, Trey man C on James Grayson, Allen, Royce O' Neill, and then young guys like Calc Brenner, Liam McNeely and Hannes Steinbach that they just drafted. Pretty solid.

[J. Skeez]

Solid.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

And they have a lot of draft capital, too.

[Tas Millis]

It wouldn't be surprising if they're very, very similar to last year. Even without Lamelo, they should be a.500 team. There's they. I mentioned all that because of their depth, you know, and it's a. It feels like it's more of a modern NBA team because you want to, you know, like. Like the old spurs, like the current Thunder. You want to roll out 10, 11, 12 guys. And this team was a really, really good regular season team, finishing at 44 and 38. I think they can get there again. I don't hesitate to say 44, but they got to be a.500 team. They should be.

[J. Skeez]

I think what happened here is the Hornets lined up their best players and they realized we're about half. We're going to have to pay Miles Bridges with a new contract here soon and Lamelo with the new extension that obviously is around $120 million. And they were like, f that we'd rather go with Con Knippel and Brandon Miller as our best players and the framework to build this team around. And I think they made the right decision here. We'll see. I mean, they just had a great year. Like, again, they didn't make the playoffs, but a really good year for them. But that's what they're doing here. They're like, ah, we don't want to have to pay those guys. And then, look, we don't need to, like, dance around the situation here with Miles Bridges either. The guy missed significant time when he faced domestic violence and child abuse charges in 2022. He pleaded no contest to felony domestic violence. I mean, he assaulted his girlfriend in front of like two children. There was another incident as well. He did something reprehensible. He was punished both criminally. I mean, he had probation. He didn't go to jail. And then by the league, right, he missed an entire season because of this. And then I guess he missed another. Was it 10 games that rolled over into the next season because they gave him like a 30 game suspension. But they were like, well, you missed an entire season. We'll count that as 20 games. And then it was another 10 games the next year. Point is, it's like up to you whether you think he deserves a second third chance or whatever here and how you feel about it. I know there are a lot of Suns fans going, what? Why did we trade for this piece of shit? That's how they feel. Not everybody does. Again, people make mistakes. This is one of the worst I think you can make. Whether you're fine with it, but then you can do what. What about this guy with a lot of guys in this league and owners by the way. So that's up to you. But I would not be happy if I'm a Phoenix Suns fan. Oh, he say, well, also he's not very good either. It's the other problem.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, he's. He's an up basketball wise. He's an upgrade on Grayson Allen and Royce o'. Neal. That being said, you know, he said one of the worst things you can do. He was a disgusting act back then. It took the NBA, if I'm not mistaken, a while to enforce that suspension. It was a. We're. We're waiting, we're waiting, we're waiting. And it sure feels like the Hornets are just moving on from him and from Lamello Ball, as you said, who was signed to two more years. Lamello had a contract and so it wasn't like it wasn't soon, you know, it wasn't as soon as. As Miles.

[J. Skeez]

But extension eligible though is the problem here.

[Tas Millis]

Right.

[J. Skeez]

Just like Bridges will be.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. Three. Excuse me. Lamello's got three years left. Right. So it's different. They wanted to move on from Miles Bridges. This is a different. A different.

[J. Skeez]

And the sons have wanted this guy for a couple years, it sounds like. And why they love guys that went to Michigan State.

[Tas Millis]

Oh right.

[J. Skeez]

They got all. I mean their owner, not Ishbia, their coach Jordan Knott, their general manager Brian Gregory. They all spent years at Michigan State.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, yeah.

[J. Skeez]

So there's a part of that I think here with Miles Bridges and their infatuation with him.

[Tas Millis]

That's true.

[J. Skeez]

This team. I mean I thought they made some nice moves. We debated. They're just running it back. But like this was not a very good trade. I don't, I think. No at all. As I don't think it moves the needle all that much in the Western Conference. And you're just going to be paying them and. And this pick yeah, yeah.

[Tas Millis]

They traded a better pick.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

It doesn't make a lot of sense. Totally. What you said was when you said they're going to run it back, yeah, that's exactly the way it looked. But now a locker room that excelled. You bring in this new part instead of Grayson Allen and Roy o', Neal, you take a downfall on the draft pick as well. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

[J. Skeez]

Now they may not be done. There's a lot of Jalen Green trade rumors. That's a potential maybe Ja Morant landing spot Phoenix. Could be. I mean you could get there with Jalen Green and John Morant being swapped if Grizzlies are that desperate to get out of the John Morant business and maybe. But like, man, this team around Booker, what I just don't know really what they're doing. There's not a lot of playmaking around them. There's not a lot of shooting around them. I mean, some of your best shooters are now gone and the Hornets add them like it's. I mean, there's one thing they did here. I saw Hollinger note this. The Suns can Now trade the 2028 first round pick that they've already swapped twice and it's the least valuable of Brooklyn, Philadelphia and Washington. So that pick and then a bunch of second rounders are all the picks they can trade moving forward here to like up till 2033. So maybe they're not done, but this is adding Miles Bridges to your team and then having to pay them, which they will.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, that's the mistake is the Sun's made a mistake here because yeah, they may have said let's do something in terms of an upgrade in their eyes to get better here because we had our good season. Are we just going to run it back? And maybe there was a little, little itch they had to scratch there, but it was, it's totally a mistake because you've got this steady team, everything's cooking and you've got money coming off the books next year in Dylan Brooks, who you may want to bring or bring

[J. Skeez]

back, but they might sign him to an extension though too.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. And the problem is after that, now if you're going to have to resign Miles Bridges after letting go, waving Bradley Beal, even Nasira little, that costs you money on the books for years and years. So I feel like this is just scratching an itch which didn't need to be scratched and now you're going to end up with what you had looking forward to this season with, oh, we're bringing the same thing. You're going to do that in your 27, 28, 28 and 29, where you're going to have. You're going to be having Booker and Miles Bridges as your two highest paid guys. It doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. I think it's a bit of a

[J. Skeez]

step back and they've got like, they do have some younger talent that you also wonder if it's being sort of like obviously push down the pecking order here when you make a move like this. Like they seem high on Fleming and there's is Malawatch as obviously their center. Like very raw center. Like their starting lineup right now would be Booker, Green, Brooks if he's there, Dylan Brooks, Miles bridges at the 4.

[Tas Millis]

Mark Williams and Mark Williams.

[J. Skeez]

That does not excite me all that much. Really?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, yeah. Again, I do think it is a bit of an upgrade though. I don't want to. I think it's a bad move long term, short term. Him instead of Grayson Allen and Royce o'. Neill. But in a locker room, you're messing things, you're changing things and then you're handcuffing yourself for years. Most likely after you sign Miles Bridges,

[J. Skeez]

what's he gonna get? He's gonna be eligible for an extension. It's like three years. 89 million. Three years, 90 million.

[Tas Millis]

About that. Yeah, probably about that. Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

All right, well, let's hear your thoughts on that trade. That was the one trade that went down this week. Actually one of two. We'll get to the other minor one in second here, but Isaiah Hartenstein in the Thunder agreed to a three year, $75 million contract extension. Task your thoughts here on Hartenstein. This extension dropping his salary by about 5 million for the coming season. So it's helping the Thunder maybe try and get under the second apron. Still have moves to make if they want to do that.

[Tas Millis]

Good for the Thunder to bring it back. They needed him in the middle, simple as that. Chet was not excellent in the playoffs. But besides that, I mean, besides Chet against Wemby, they need to bring back the same starting lineup as they always do. Good for them. They've got three guys that are signed for four years. And Shade, Jalen Williams and Chet, they've got two guys for three years, the Hartenstein contract and Caruso. Today they got to decide on Dort's team option. And then beyond that, it's Kayson Wallace. The other, Jalen Williams, Jared McCain, AJ Mitchell, Adai, Mara, Nikola Topic and Thomas. Sorber here they are, they're coming back and they have to. They had to do that. I think Hartenstein is a bit of their glue. Things are looking good there.

[J. Skeez]

They still can get under the second apron by declining Dort's team option or by picking it up and trading them. Dort's in a lot of like Lakers trade rumors here right now. Hollander says another option is they could trade recent draft picks in topic and Sorber and decline Kenrich Williams team option and you can get under the second apron that way as well. But the long and short of it is what looked like it was going to be an insane tax bill. They've done pretty good work here. I say good work. They had to trade good players. But look, you're a good team and you got a lot of them getting like whatever second round picks back for Wiggins and then we'll get to Joe in a second here. But you got to do that if you want to keep your top end talent together and try and stay on the second apron so you can make moves as you move forward here. So, yeah, this is good work. And you're right, he's important. He showed that he was extremely important to their success over this last couple years since they got him. So. And they get him on a pretty good deal. I mean, he honestly is almost doing them a favor here. I think he is doing them a favor. I think he's actually worth more on the market than this. But he thinks loves it there.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, you know, they did him. They kind of. They paid high when they got him from the Knicks. In comparison, like, he didn't, he didn't play that type of role. But here he's excelling well. And you know, by some reports, it's hard. It's hard to know what's real on the Internet. Kenrich Williams team option was declined. You know, a week ago we were on here.

[J. Skeez]

Oh, was it?

[Tas Millis]

But no, but I don't think that's completely confirmed. But all around. We were here at the desk when that happened. The rumor said that. But tbd.

[J. Skeez]

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[Tas Millis]

Not official, no.

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[J. Skeez]

the Pistons landed sharpshooter Isaiah Joe. Where did you come from? Where did you go? Well, you went to Detroit and that was a trade obviously with the Thunder. So your thoughts on Isaiah Joe? Excuse me, Going to Detroit.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, the Thunder, obviously, from their perspective, hey, gotta cut this guy. The Detroit Pistons, they need desperately. They needed a shooter and so he comes off the bench. They have such an interesting off season because what is this team going to become? Kevin Herder is a free agent. So you think, okay, Isaiah Joe basically took his spot. Kevin Herder experiment never really worked out. Tobias Harris, also a free agent, is there. Stewart was traded away. They've got team options on Dennis Jenkins, Ron Holland, Marcus Sasser and the Asar Thompson team option extension eligible. So that's interesting. There's. It's a good addition, but they got to get better. Even better than. Than what this is. They have so much money available because of Sar Thompson not paid a lot. The Jalen Duran extension, which is still bound to happen here. They can bring in a lot of parts to replace either Tobias Harris or just bring on somebody who can score or Duncan Robinson. Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

If he's not there.

[Tas Millis]

So this is Duncan. Is Duncan under contract? I thought he was, yeah.

[J. Skeez]

But there's rumors that he could be. Okay, squeezed here, but we'll see. I mean, look, I'm with you that they were one of the worst three point shooting teams in the league and they added one of the better guys, especially in a bench role in Isaiah Joel. That's one thing this guy can do and he does it well. Hit two and a half threes in just under 21 minutes per game. He's a career 41% three point shooter. And again the Pistons, they had Duncan Robinson and they had Cate Cunningham and like outside of that, nobody was like a high volume three point shooter because guess what happened. One of their guys, he got caught up in illegal gambling activity in Malik Beasley. I mean, this guy was awesome for them and then suddenly was not allowed to play in the league. We learned more about that too. Malik Beasley has been indicted on federal charges for gambling related to a sports betting scheme such as point shaving and prop bets. This is what his attorney was telling Shams here this morning. So the government is coordinating a voluntary surrender of Beasley this week. So this sort of all goes together here because that's Beasley was an important piece and a three point shooter and then he was gone. And we saw like, oh man, they Need a high volume three point shooter. So they're trying to get one here in Joe and a good job for only two. What, second round picks.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. And Malik Beasley was. But to sign a big contract right before that. So unfortunate news there. And the Pistons are looking, looking to fix things up when Malik Beasley didn't come back. They also went and signed Carousel Vert sort of as their playmaker, kind of replacing Dennis Schroeder there. That hasn't worked out all that well. They made the Jaden Ivy trade to go get Kevin Herder. That hasn't worked out extremely well. So, yeah, this is an interesting time.

[J. Skeez]

Will you be happy if this is sort of all the Pistons do, so to speak, this offseason? Like, they bring back Jalen Duran on whatever contract they agree to. They make this move for Isaiah Joe. Let's say, you know, Tobias Harris or Duncan Robinson, one of them still there. You know, like if that's sort of it, you don't love it. You want more shooting, more playmaking, because that's what. Isaiah Joe doesn't do that.

[Tas Millis]

No, he does not.

[J. Skeez]

I mean, I don't think we. I don't think he can do that.

[Tas Millis]

No.

[J. Skeez]

Maybe he gets more of an opportunity to do it, but that guy's just a shooter. He's a play finisher, not a play starter.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, he's not much of a driver. That's why the Thunder said we can let go of you. Jared McCain essentially took Isaiah Joe's spot. What a great pickup that was because that guy can drive. They trade away Aaron Wiggins while the Pistons, I think if right now, if they're desperate, they bring back Tobias Harris, but their starting lineup is essentially the same and they let go Isaiah Stewart and they bring back. Or they bring in Isaiah Joe. I think I'm taking the Miami Heat in a series over that. May. Maybe I'm just a recency biased type of guy, but I think the Pistons will still be good in the regular season like they were when it comes to the playoffs. I'm banking on Giannis being able in a healthy team. Yeah, he's got to be healthy if they're healthy against the Detroit business. Yeah. They need scores.

[J. Skeez]

It's funny you brought up that team because Norman Powell could be on one of those two teams. Yeah. Does he stay with Miami or is he. He's one that's been linked as a sort of. Obviously a guy that can score to Detroit.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. But then you're taking a risk. Norman Powell over Tobias Harris. That's a Risk because device is a free agent. Would you rather have Norman Powell who's injured a great, great player, but he can't do it for six months? I don't think so. That's a question. Yeah. It is unfortunate. Here the Pistons are. They got parts moving here. I thought. I thought Andrew Wiggins would be the guy then and hopefully he would be, you know, back to old DeAndre or Andrew Wiggins. But like that, that was my bar. They need a score somebody.

[J. Skeez]

I mean, they should go all in on Trey Murphy. That's the team. It should be like they should push all their chips in draft capital in. Yeah, he'd be awesome. I think for them.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. And they're. They're pushing. I'm sure they're. They're trying to get somebody. I imagine.

[J. Skeez]

Other minor NBA transaction news here. A lot of option stuff here. So we'll go at these one at a time. Rockets guard Fred Van Vliet opting into his $25 million player option for the 2627 season test. So Van Vliet on the books. Houston has about $20 million here to resign Tari Eason and fill out the rest of the roster before reaching the first apron. But any. Were you shocked at all by Freddie Steady Freddy picking up the option here? Just 25 million.

[Tas Millis]

Fred wants to be a starting point guard with Kevin Durant beside him coming on back. That was a good contract that they signed him to before 2425 or 2526, I should say two years, $50 million. And listen, I tuned into Unguarded by Fred Van Vliet in his podcast. I thought, okay, maybe he's coming back. Maybe he's coming back. But he did not. And so he just wants to come back. Good for him.

[J. Skeez]

Good for the Rockets Kingsguard Zach Levine also, you won't believe this. Opting into his $49 million player option. Yeah, yeah. He's gonna always be picking that one up.

[Tas Millis]

Kangs be the Kangs. It's the same team they're bringing back. Right.

[J. Skeez]

With some. Yeah. Obviously a cuff their future, hopefully.

[Tas Millis]

Right, Right.

[J. Skeez]

And still figuring out what to do with DeRozan and maybe Sabonis and DeAndre also.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, they're paying a lot of guys. And Keegan Murray.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

Malik Monk. They're numbers wise. I'm not the number. I'm not the salary numbers guys. But they're already paying $200 million to. To players and they're going to be

[Tamara Judge]

okay.

[J. Skeez]

Okay. James Harden is declining his $42.3 million player option for Next season. But he and the Cavs are working together on a new deal. We had expected this. We had talked about this. I think they're thinking the year yearly salary will drop to around the 28 to 30 million dollars range. Be it, be it two or three years, I don't know, player option or something like that. I think that's where they'll probably come together on if I'm a guessing, if I'm a bet man. Excuse me.

[Tas Millis]

Sure. It seems like they made the trade four months ago. The plan was to keep James Harden around.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

And so they're going to come to that deal and hopefully he can buy a. A safe storage for his weapon. Did you see the misdemeanor charge that he, that he was hit recently? Yes. In Houston. Kind of flew under the radar. He was in Houston and. Yeah. Misdemeanor charge of unlawful carrying of a weapon in a motor vehicle.

[J. Skeez]

Okay.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. Unfortunate.

[J. Skeez]

All these guys that get traded, what we're seeing here is like 99 of the time the extension is going to be signed, new contracts going to be signed because they've talked about it in advance with their agents. The new team acquiring said player at trade. Do you know what I mean?

[Tas Millis]

Especially if you're so many of these, especially if your year is done months later. You know what I mean? If your contract is done like Anthony Davis was rumored to be extended or going to be extended by the Washington Wizards. That hasn't happened.

[J. Skeez]

That's true.

[Tas Millis]

But he has a full year guaranteed after that. Harden makes sense.

[J. Skeez]

Couple other ones just breaking right now. Sean says DeAndre Ayton is opting into his $8.1 million player option with the Lakers.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, the Lakers were looking to get Isaiah Stewart, but they were beat by the Memphis Grizzlies who had second round picks to give to Detroit. And so, and this, this is a separate deal, but deandre Ayton come back after having a good year. Was he going to get more money elsewhere as a free agent? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. I mean, he was solid last year.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah, solid.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, he was solid.

[J. Skeez]

Well, another center net center, D Ron Sharp intends to sign a new two year, $20 million deal to return to the Brooklyn Nets. So, you know, they made the move to get off of Nick Claxton and we said they, they believe Sharp is their center here. So he gets a very affordable, I think a team option there too. Oh, no. Nets declined Sharp's team option to do the new contract. There you go.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, we'll see if he can Grow as a player.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah, that's how he got there. You're not the biggest fan.

[Tas Millis]

Just if he can grow, it's fine. He's got to get better.

[Tamara Judge]

Mamu.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

Raptors big man declining his $2.8 million player option. He's going to test free agency here. So he, him and his. Obviously his agency. I think it's priority sports. They're like, oh, yeah. There's like suddenly like this strong developing market for Mamu where a lot of teams are like, oh, we could use a guy like that. And after we saw it, I mean, he had a really good start to the Raptors. I think it sort of trailed off as the season went on, but good for him. I think he's timing this well here.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. Undersized backup center seeming seemingly has become more prominent in the NBA. But he lost his job when Carla Murray Boyles was better in the playoffs. So he should go get his money. Deandre Ayton, I think should go get it. Should have gone and gotten his money. I think he could have got paid more. But congratulations. As you said, priority sports. Mark Bartlestein and George Bartlestein.

[J. Skeez]

Season, baby.

[Tas Millis]

And George Rusakis, a Greek.

[J. Skeez]

Wow.

[Tas Millis]

It sure feels like as the agents, when you get a double agent mentioned sometimes a triple agent. These guys have so many agents.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah. It's the Sham's way of breaking news is a little eye rolling at times. What was the one that was. Something came through over the weekend and people were like, oh, I think it was the Hartenstein. Did you see how that one was worded? It was batshit crazy how he worded it because it was like, get to the point. What is the deal? But it was like he is now made in his 125 million. Like it was so convoluted and it was so obviously like the agents gave it to him and that's his title. All these things and how he gets all this news. I get it, you got to play the game. But I don't know, man. Just tell us what the hell it was. That one was infuriating.

[Tas Millis]

This is the one you're talking about. Just Justin. Oklahoma City's Isaiah Hartenstein intends to sign a new three year contract to return to the Thunder through 2829. That brings his total earnings with the franchise at five years and 134 million guarantee. Sources tell ESPN in 2024 leading to the 2025. I do like though that the agent mention comes in a second tweet quite often.

[J. Skeez]

Wow. You know, not all the time.

[Tas Millis]

Then. Then the second tweet comes in. Hartenstein and his reps. Andrew Morrison and Aaron Mintz of CAA Sports. Yeah, so sometimes you got to click the more like I didn't even finish reading. Leading to the 2025 championship Thunder lock in the defensive anchorage. Cool.

[J. Skeez]

He always adds a little flavor there. Again, whatever the agent said to spruce this up a little bit, make it sound great. Jose Alvarado returning to the Knicks on a new three year, $14 million ish deal. The Celtics are resigning Ron Harper Jr. To a three year, $9 million deal. The Wolves are keeping Jalen Clark on a three or $10 million deal. I got a few others. Anything related to those two?

[Tas Millis]

Well, the Knicks side with Alvarado coming back. The interesting part is are they bringing the team back? Alvarado back, good deal. But James Dolan was on the Carton show and he said that I can't go into the second apron. It's suicidal. And so does that mean Mitchell Robinson is too expensive to come back and Landry Shammond is too expensive to come back? Those two alongside with Jose Alvarado, those were the three parts we were watching.

[J. Skeez]

So one done. But what about the other two?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah. The Orlando Magic waved forward Jonathan Isaac on Saturday. Isaac, remember him?

[Tas Millis]

It's all done. Yeah, yeah, that was.

[J. Skeez]

This is.

[Tas Millis]

This is getting into the weeds. Getting a little geeky here, but sure. 8 million partially guaranteed on the books for next season that they have to pay.

[J. Skeez]

Right?

[Tas Millis]

That's being paid. And in March, they pushed back the fully guaranteed number of 14 and a half million for 2627 back to June 28 instead of 52 games, which eventually got to. So that money was not paid. In the end, he missed out on six and a half million. Yeah, that's just some geeky number stuff, but it's feels like it's over for Jonathan Isaac. As. As an over. Well, like is that. I mean, that he got. He was injured to finish the season and so. Yes. I mean, over in terms of.

[J. Skeez]

I mean, elite defensive players still. Yeah, but that's.

[Tas Millis]

But they would. Yeah. This is to save money, but it just feels like it's over in terms of Jonathan Isaac at the full possibility that we're all sort of watching or. Yes. Great defensive player. So why isn't he. He hasn't been able to play and the Orlando Magic didn't unleash him because he wasn't able to stick on the floor for many minutes. So that's what's over. And he's done in Orlando who have to save money because of all these contracts that they've got Bane and Franz and Bunch Arrow.

[J. Skeez]

So this is. Yeah, he only played for the Orlando Magic. I would get ready to see Jonathan Isaac bouncing around the NBA here for the next second part of his career.

[Tas Millis]

Older than I thought.

[J. Skeez]

He's 28, right? Yeah, yeah, no, nearly 29. He'll be 29 by the start of next season. So, Yeah, a little older than I thought, too. I mean, missed two years, two full seasons. So I have a feeling he's gonna be one of these guys that's just gonna be on a lot of rosters here moving forward. They'll be like, there's a need. Like, he's obviously a defensive minded guy, incredible timing and length and all that, but, yeah, he's a liability on the offensive end. And then, final piece of news here, the Hawks are also guaranteeing Buddy Heald's $9.65 million salary for this coming season. This is a little perplexing because he was not played at all after they acquired him basically from Golden State at the trade deadline. So a lot of people are going to. Is there a trade coming from the Hawks here? Like, this is why you sort of, you know, guarantee this money. Basically 10 million, let's call it, because he could be rerouted in a. In a trade. And that's 10 million you can use to obviously match salary and stuff like that. So a lot of people are wondering, are the Hawks not done? What do they got up their sleeve here?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, the best.

[J. Skeez]

A little odd.

[Tas Millis]

It is odd.

[J. Skeez]

It's odd.

[Tas Millis]

It's surprising. Yeah. The best thing he did with as an Atlanta Hawk was shooting that one game. It was the 82nd game of the season. He shot 18 times, 31 points. He was on fire at seven threes. Other than that, it is surprising that he would be coming back.

[J. Skeez]

I mean, Buddy Hill's great for vibes.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

He's not a vibe killer. No, I think that's good. But like to pay him and what Corey Kispert, like a combined. What would it be like $24 million. That seems batshit crazy. Why? Why? You're not going to keep both of them, let alone one of them.

[Tas Millis]

So that's a good point about the Corey Kispert. Yeah. Making 14 million next year. Yes.

[J. Skeez]

Okay.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. It's questionable what they're going to do and this may have already happened if you're listening to the podcast, but they still have to decide on Jonathan Kaminga's team option.

[J. Skeez]

Right, right, right.

[Tas Millis]

That's A very interesting number at $24 million. So what are they doing? Otherwise? We look in like the same team going forward here because this, they still lack size, full stop. I'm done talking. Look, Jalen Johnson again. Onyeka Kongwu coming back. They need to get a little bigger. You know, Zubie, edge of four is going to be fun to watch as a backup center. We'll see what he can do. He could be awesome. But they definitely need some size.

[J. Skeez]

Okay, well, let's call it there. The only thing else I had in my notes is that the Heat have their eye on Mike Conley and Tim Hardaway. Possibility. I mean, they're obviously got to fill out the rest of the roster. Could see both those guys making some sense and being affordable enough. And the spurs have their eye on Rui Hachimura and John Collins. It does feel like to me John Collins at one point will be on the San Antonio Spurs. I don't know why. Just I can picture it, I can see it and it makes sense to me. But I hear, you know, maybe if, I don't know, they strike out on a potential Kawhi Leonard sort of deal, they pivot to something much more affordable of one of those guys. That's all I got for you right now, though.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah, John Collins fits on the Spurs. He would take Harrison Barnes role, but he would be getting a huge pay cut. It seems like at this point of his career. Now, things were flying with the Atlanta Hawks.

[J. Skeez]

Was that an aviation joke contest?

[Tas Millis]

Good one. No, it wasn't. Okay. But yeah, that was an unfortunate. He wasn't flying there.

[J. Skeez]

No, he wasn't.

[Tas Millis]

He kicked that thing. But it's nine years for him and he feels young enough to get a good contract. So I don't know if the spurs would be at this time able to give him enough because I think he'd get outbid by somebody, but. Or they would get outbid by somebody.

[J. Skeez]

Well, maybe we'll learn tomorrow where John Collins.

[Tas Millis]

Where John Collins goes.

[J. Skeez]

Because we're going to call it here for now. We did a lot of slop, a lot of transactions. Thanks for joining us live on YouTube. Hit the like button. Make sure you subscribe, share the show, five star ratings and reviews. Everybody knows the drill by now. Here's the plan. Unless there's an emergency podcast. I mean, I am still 100% convinced Jillian Brown is getting traded at some point. If that happens, we'll do an emergency podcast. Otherwise, tomorrow, Tuesday, June 30th. Yep, that's correct. We're gonna be here at 5:30pm Eastern. So no morning show. Instead we'll go right up against the official start of free agencies though. It's so funny now with all these like, a lot of these like deals can be agreed to if you're on your own team. Right?

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

So we'll go live at 5:30. We'll do the podcast. As the news or hopefully continues to trickle in, maybe some big things happen. So we'll do an hour, hour and a half, whatever, and then we'll be back on Wednesday to do more of a recap. Because a lot of other stuff happens that night and stuff like that. I mean, it's a startup free agency. It's not like it only happens in that next six hour window. Right. Who knows what to expect is what I'm getting out here. TK should be here though, and we'll go over everything.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah. We could have a trade happen as we drive home. As DJ Gary Oak says in the stream, Team Kawhi is going to get traded on their drive home. That warrants an emergency.

[J. Skeez]

Oh, for sure, for sure.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

Okay. Let's say Jaylen Brown, 100%. Kawhi Leonard.

[Tas Millis]

Yeah.

[J. Skeez]

Ja Morant.

[Tas Millis]

Yes, yes, yes. Because it's probably going to be a good team. That takes a chance. So we could be talking about John on the Heat.

[J. Skeez]

LeBron to the Warriors.

[Tas Millis]

Oh, yeah. Anthony Davis trade, probably Anthony Davis, did he give us.

[J. Skeez]

You're wavering a little bit.

[Tas Millis]

Well, I just want to know if he gave us an emergency trade podcast in February. Right. I'm just trying to think back. Is he going to give us two emergency podcasts in four months? I think he did when he was traded to the Wizards. That's all. That's my only point. What do you think, ad? Wizards legend, ad as ML Doomsday says here on the stream team.

[J. Skeez]

Man, I don't know. I don't know. This Warrior's angle is crazy to me, but also very exciting. So I want it to happen.

[Tas Millis]

LeBron was awesome last year. So he warrants it. He warrants one. But the zd, that's the question. Or we just lump them.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

If it happens.

[J. Skeez]

Anyway, it feels like it's like a joint, joint collaboration here. If, if, I don't know, one goes to them, maybe the other is going to LeBron and ADM. Yeah, yeah.

[Tas Millis]

It's different when you said that. I'm thinking, oh, they're both going to sign there as free agents. LeBron's going to take less money. But Anthony Davis has to be a trade.

[J. Skeez]

Yeah.

[Tas Millis]

So, yeah, maybe it is a collab.

[J. Skeez]

I'll just tell you this. If John Collins gets traded, we're not doing an emergency podcast.

[Tas Millis]

Okay, well, he's a free agent, so he's not going to be signed. He's not going to be traded. I should say. So what if he gets signed and trade? Yeah, I guess he could.

[J. Skeez]

I don't know.

[Tas Millis]

What about if he's a free agent? We're going to. Nah, sorry, John.

[J. Skeez]

No, we'll just talk about it tomorrow. Join us 5:30pm Eastern. Until then, Clipper Bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time.

[Tamara Judge]

Turn up.

[J. Skeez]

Love you guys. Awesome.

[Tas Millis]

Thanks for joining us. And remember, we're ready for emergency podcasts. Although when Birdo Eats on the Stream team says wait, exclamation point. It ain't happening. I ain't waiting. Berto. Berto eats. We're out of here. There hasn't been one that has happened. But you can't fool me. Berto.

[J. Skeez]

Josh Minot.

[Tas Millis]

Oh, Josh.

[J. Skeez]

Sign with the Nets. Two years, $9 million.

[Tas Millis]

Why not? Let's do it right now.

[J. Skeez]

Russell Westbrook. Why not? All right, we'll see you guys tomorrow afternoon. Or with an emergency podc. Brace the day people.

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