Thunder Clinch Playoff Spot, Key Injuries & The Perfect March Madness Bracket

Summary

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No Dunks – March 18, 2026

Episode Title: Thunder Clinch Playoff Spot, Key Injuries & The Perfect March Madness Bracket
Hosts: Jay Skeets, Tas Melas, Trey Kirby, JD
Platform: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, the No Dunks crew breaks down the latest NBA storylines, including the Oklahoma City Thunder clinching a playoff berth, notable player injuries affecting key teams, and Russell Westbrook’s new place on the all-time assist leaderboard. The second half dives deep into the collective chaos of picking their "perfect" March Madness bracket, blending a fun, semi-clueless approach with plenty of banter, nostalgia, and fan engagement.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Thunder Clinch Playoff Spot & Caruso’s Shoe Antics

[08:39 – 14:51]

• Thunder clinches a playoff berth:
  OKC becomes the first team to secure a spot in the postseason after SGA's explosive 40-point outing against Orlando.

  “The Thunder one, though. SGA scored 40 and like I said, they did punch their ticket to the NBA playoffs. So they are officially the first team in.” — Jay Skeets [12:42]

• Alex Caruso’s unorthodox block: Caruso uses his shoe to block a shot while his own foot gear is off, earning a tech and a goaltending call.

  “Caruso receiving a technical foul for using his shoe to block a shot...I didn't really realize it was going to cost my team basically three points.” — Trey Kirby [09:36]

• Debate about the rule:
  Discussion about whether using one’s shoe should be legal, with Skeets humorously proposing a change.

  “You should be able to use your own shoe in any way, shape and form you want to, but only in a scenario like this where it legitimately comes off your foot and you retrieve it.” — Jay Skeets [09:37]

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2. Other NBA Headlines

[14:51 – 32:31]

• Timberwolves/Nuggets keep pace despite injuries: Both teams secure critical wins while dealing with roster setbacks, discussing Julius Randle’s uptick in production and Anthony Edwards' knee injury.

  “Maybe Anthony Edwards' injury helps them out in that guys like Julius Randall...can take on a bigger role and start to play better because he has not been good since the all star game.” — Tas Melas [15:38]

  • Edwards set for re-evaluation in 1-2 weeks; award eligibility in jeopardy due to games missed.

• Pistons’ Cade Cunningham injury: Listed as back spasms; speculation it’s precautionary, but Detroit faces late-season adversity with both Cunningham and Isaiah Stewart banged up.

  “They would like to be pumping on all cylinders, which is literally what a Piston does. And I don't think they are right now.” — Trey Kirby [27:13]

• Hornets blow out Heat: LaMelo Ball's strong performance and Kobe White’s impact highlight Charlotte's resurgence.
  Brandon Miller’s “talking to the crowd” moment gets a shoutout for being “good vibes.”

• Russell Westbrook climbs to 5th all-time in assists: Overtakes Steve Nash and Mark Jackson; reflection on his unique legacy as a triple-double machine.

  “He’s just a special guy. Doing it for a long time.” — Jay Skeets [32:36]

  Fun trivia: The hosts guess which teammates Westbrook has assisted the most; Kevin Durant is #1.

• Joel Embiid “loves a little contra”:
  Embiid embraces the heel role as Denver fans boo him for another absence. Jokic-Embiid postgame meeting lightly mentioned.

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3. March Madness Bracket Mayhem

[39:02 – 91:47]

• The No Dunks Tradition:
  The crew annually fills out a bracket on-air, admitting their “basketball dummy” status regarding NCAA hoops.

  “We always have fun doing this because we know nothing about college basketball.” — Jay Skeets [04:27]

• Approach:

  • Strategy is mostly vibes, mascots, funny names, and family/fan allegiances.
  • Constant laughter over net rankings, school facts, and wild logic (e.g., if you know or like someone named “Troy,” pick Troy, if not, don’t).

• Memorable Bracket Quotes and Moments:

  • “I'm a Wolverine guy.” — JD [89:05] (picking Michigan over Kentucky)
  • “We’re just riding the horns.” — Jay Skeets [87:40] (picking Texas)
  • “Should it not have a big old yellow M beside it?” — Trey Kirby [90:38]

• Doug Miller’s beard decides Duke/Yukon:
  The Final Four spot hinges on whether their Duke-fan friend has a beard. He doesn’t, so Yukon goes through.

  “But we said it. If he didn’t have a beard, then they were not going through.” — Trey Kirby [86:48]

• Final Picks:

  • Final Four: UConn, Florida, Arizona, Michigan
  • Championship Game: UConn vs Michigan
  • Champion: Michigan Wolverines
  • Predicted final score: 163

• Fan engagement:
  Audience invited to join the No Dunks bracket pool; banter about watching tournament games in Atlanta and treating the start of March Madness as “a national holiday.”

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4. Woah Boy of the Night

[92:57 – 93:45]

• Josh Hart gets the nod:
  33 points (12-13 FG, 5-5 3PT), 7 rebounds, 5 assists in Knicks win.

  “No one has ever done in terms of like the stats and then shooting 90% plus from the field. Or maybe nobody in Knicks history. Maybe it was that. Anyway, pretty impressive.” — Jay Skeets [93:40]

• Shoutout to Her Hoop Stats:
  Fans encouraged to check out this resource for following women’s NCAA and WNBA.

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5. Notable Quotes & Banter

• “You got crickets.” — Tas Melas [07:01], about a silent, awkward podcast moment.
• “Cats or farms?” — Trey Kirby [52:28], deciding between Villanova and Utah State.
• “My family invented the corn harvesting machine, so I'm a big farm fan.” — Jay Skeets [52:32]
• “March is true madness.” — Tas Melas [96:42]

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Thunder Clinch & Caruso’s Shoe Play: 08:39–14:51
• NBA Injury Updates: 14:51–32:31
• Russell Westbrook All-Time Assists & Trivia: 31:36–36:34
• Start of March Madness Bracket: 39:02 (continues through ~91:47)
• Doug Miller Decides Duke/UConn: 85:03–86:45
• Woah Boy of the Night: 92:57–93:45

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Tone and Style

True to form, the No Dunks crew keeps things loose, self-deprecating, and highly interactive. The episode blends NBA expertise with joyful bracket chaos, making sports talk feel both accessible and celebratory.

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For Listeners

If you missed this episode:

• You’ll get caught up on all the key NBA storylines as teams jostle for playoff spots amid mounting injuries.
• You’ll relive the madness of March (literally), as the guys build out a bracket that’s half basketball analysis, half total whimsy.
• You’ll hear plenty of fun tangents, inside jokes, and playful debates that make No Dunks beloved by hoops fans.

Skip:

• Ad reads and any non-content sections (the bracket segment is lengthy but entertaining even for non-NCAA fans).

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“There’s a fire inside you, you can’t ignore. You’ve got competition to outrun.” — (Capella University ad, but it sums up March Madness too.)

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Transcript

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[Tas Melas]

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[Tas Melas]

Podcast listeners, this is for you.

[Trey Kirby]

Next to him, it's my top shot, hot boy Trey Kirby Ayo. Hey O. And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer JD Hello. There he is. Here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hello podcast listeners. A little housekeeping before we get into last night's NBA games. And then later today, we are picking our March Madness bracket. Yes, the perfect bracket. We're going to nail every selection. We always have fun doing this because we know nothing about college basketball. But the housekeeping is I want to give a hat tip to Griffin at Unadvanced analytics, the Substack page, for being the person that brought to my attention that Survivor NBA crossover that I brought up yesterday with the torn Achilles in the playoffs. Dame Tatum, then Kyle Frazier from season 48 on season 50 with the torn Achilles, then going back and seeing Halliburton. That was Griffin. I couldn't remember who. I checked everywhere. What did I say? I checked Instagram, I checked Twitter. I checked Facebook. It was substack. Now, somebody else in the comments yesterday said they also said it. So maybe there was two people. I don't know, but thanks, Griffin.

[Tas Melas]

That person, maybe Grifton.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, maybe.

[Tas Melas]

I don't know.

[Trey Kirby]

Also, I need to, well, apologize or at least admit I was wrong. The other day, you picked up your laptop and showed it to the world, which is my favorite Tazbellas thing to do. I love it. And it was a great picture showing Max Strus, like, evolution with his hair over the last couple years. This was on the Cavs broadcast.

[Tas Melas]

Yes, that's correct.

[Trey Kirby]

The locks of Max. And I said on this podcast. This was a couple days ago. I said, hey, he's gotten hotter. Crickets. Not a word from you guys. And I'm like, wow, okay. I sort of thought so. All right. I thought he was okay. Anyway, I think I know why you guys said nothing, because now we're seeing actual photos of Max Strus, maybe without the headband. And, yeah, I was wrong. He has not gotten hotter. In fact, I'd say the opposite when you see this. So maybe you guys had seen this. I don't know. But anyway, I was wrong, and I can fully admit it. So I take it back that Max Stru has gotten hotter.

[Jay Skeets]

I'm glad we're clearing up some things here. He's kind of got a Leo in one battle after another sort of look to him.

[Trey Kirby]

Revolution.

[Jay Skeets]

A bit of a Bob Ferguson.

[Trey Kirby]

He does. He does. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

It's not a flattering photo.

[Trey Kirby]

No. Bad lighting.

[Tas Melas]

Bad lighting.

[Trey Kirby]

Right.

[Tas Melas]

I think when you brought it up, first of all, people really enjoyed the pause where. No, you got crickets.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

People are like, whoa. But also, we did mention I mentioned the receding hair.

[Trey Kirby]

You did, yeah.

[Tas Melas]

And so that's what's happening here. I think that's. That's the only thing that's really changed. He's got a blemish on his forehead. Yeah, we all do. I've got one on my nose. But really, we're calling him out for having a. A pimple here in the Hallway where there's always bad light.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tas Melas]

It's the hair.

[Trey Kirby]

It does look like. It almost looks like a mug shot. Like him standing in front of that wall there.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, We've all admired his hair, but now he's just. Should change it up, I think.

[Trey Kirby]

Maybe shave it.

[Jay Skeets]

All right.

[Tas Melas]

Headbanding. Had the headband would help. You used to have the headband.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Let him play a hat. Why not?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

He lost hats. Yeah, we got lots of hats. Trey's got a hat on.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Melas]

That's a good Atlanta basketball hat.

[Trey Kirby]

That's a cool hat.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Jay Skeets]

Thank you.

[Trey Kirby]

Where the hel. Hell did you just pull this?

[Tas Melas]

I just pulled that from a box that we just got. I got a Little ripper.

[Trey Kirby]

Look at this.

[Jay Skeets]

Look at this.

[Trey Kirby]

Look at this guy's. Look right now.

[Tas Melas]

I, I, I looked. I, I picked it up out of the box, and I looked at Trace, and I said, it's not that.

[Jay Skeets]

First of all,

[Tas Melas]

similar color of the font. Similar.

[Trey Kirby]

Can I ask what the hell is Little Ripper?

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, they sponsored a. Oh, boy. Last week. It's a. A cafe. An Australian cafe in California.

[Trey Kirby]

Australia. It ain't just a hat, Beans. This is a mail opening.

[Tas Melas]

Suddenly, I wasn't planning on it, but then I opened it. It's also one of those hats that's got, like a kind of a screen.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Tas Melas]

So it doesn't slip.

[Trey Kirby]

Maybe be good for your forehead. Breathe.

[Tas Melas]

Maybe.

[Trey Kirby]

Max, it would be good for your head.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, you think a smaller head?

[Trey Kirby]

Let me see. Give me this little look.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, sure. Yeah, Perfect. We gotta work on.

[Trey Kirby]

I got this courier. Where you want me to put it? I don't know why they talk like that. All right, let's get into some of last night's NBA games and news. We've got five things that happened last night that I want to throw at you guys. We can quickly address them because filling out a bracket takes forever. So this could be a long show. But let's start with a funny story here. Caruso receiving a technical foul for using his shoe to block a shot in a Thunder win over the Magic. They clinched a playoff spot. First team do that. But look at this. Caruso, who had lost his shoe, had picked it up. And then Silva is attacking with the left hand, and Crusoe reaches out and just gets the ball. Like, he's not touching that without the shoe, but you can't do that. We learned they counted the bucket. It was like a goaltending, so to speak, and then a technical foul as well. And Caruso says, look, I won't do this anymore. Swiping at the ball with my shoe. I didn't really realize it was going to cost my team basically three points.

[Jay Skeets]

Three points? Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. But pretty funny.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Every once in a while we get a question that maybe I'll be in beach step in. Or we could use it for a rapid fire. What's a rule that should be changed? And I think this is a rule that should be changed. You should be able to use your own shoe in any way, shape and form you want to, but only in a scenario like this where it legitimately comes off your foot and you retrieve it.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

Now, it's a slippery slope.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Be looking for the loopholes for sure. But if you get your own shoe back, you should be able to play

[Trey Kirby]

defense with it, at least for that possession.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

Until the clock.

[Trey Kirby]

Fine with that.

[Tas Melas]

You're telling me you can whack a ball?

[Jay Skeets]

Yes.

[Tas Melas]

You can play whack a mole. Whack a ball. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

But you can use it on offense, too.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, wow.

[Jay Skeets]

It's not going to help, but if you got to keep it in your same hand would be my rule. Once you pick it up, keep it there. You can use it any way you want to.

[Trey Kirby]

You know, you're not on board with this.

[Tas Melas]

No, I can't get on board. I can get on board with sliding your feet and doing that. I remember Taj Gibson had one in his hand as he was playing defense. He was sliding those feet. He just went vertical with it. I don't know if he was just trying to sell more shoes because there was a great camera angle of seeing that shoe as he was defending the mania. Beit up. But I can't really get behind it. Goal tent. They called it a goal.

[Trey Kirby]

They counted the bucket. They were like, yeah, can't do that.

[Tas Melas]

They're like, well, they said, what's the rule that can get us two points? Basically because it's not a goaltender. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, yeah, I put golden in my notes. It's the equivalent to me of it. They counted the bucket.

[Tas Melas]

No, they called it a go.

[Trey Kirby]

Did they actually, yeah.

[Tas Melas]

They called it a goaltend and gave him a tech.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, yeah. We saw Marc Gasol do something similar way back in the day. I think it was Derek Favors when he was on the Jazz and Marcus all was on the Grizzlies. Remember this? We must have showed it on the show. And he had his shoe in his hand and he used it to do the poke from behind. When Favors Sort of beat him baseline and he went whack with his shoe

[Tas Melas]

and got the ball on the ball.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember the exact call on that one. Didn't call it goaltend. I know that, but I guess he wasn't really shooting. Maybe a technical on him too. And then there's an old, old clip of Bill Walton. You ever seen that clip of him trying to. Now, he is not as successful as Alex Caruso was. He just like, he lost his shoe. He picks it up and he like throws it in the air like somebody tries a jump shot. And he tried. He just chucks it, like trying to like deflect it or block it, but he misses.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, See, that would still be illegal under my administration.

[Trey Kirby]

You got to keep it in your, in your hand. Okay. Like part of your wingspan, basically. Totally. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

But I think Caruso afterwards said it's the kind of play you'll see once every 10 years. And he's right.

[Trey Kirby]

He's sort of right.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Dipping back in the archives. But any shoe moment is funny. Blatch had one. Tyson Chandler had one.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, he blocked a shoe.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, blocked somebody's shoe. Always funny.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Or moments in socks. Like Mike Miller hitting threes. Oh, yeah, just in socks. Also great.

[Jay Skeets]

People love feet. Just love seeing a stocking foot.

[Trey Kirby]

Gerald Green dunking in the dunk contest in socks. Underrated dunk.

[Jay Skeets]

We're cooking up a short here.

[Trey Kirby]

Jesus. I think we just made one, baby. There you go.

[Jay Skeets]

Clip it, Caitlin.

[Trey Kirby]

That's right. The Thunder one, though. SGA scored 40 and like I said, they did punch their ticket to the NBA playoffs. So they are officially the first team in. And spurs won as well last night. So that's still a race for the number one seed in the Western Conference. But OKC has three game lead, I think.

[Tas Melas]

And that was a good game. Okc, Orlando, where Palonchero made up for the night before against Atlanta. I thought he just looked so much more poised. It didn't start well. He was shooting way too early in the shot clock. But then it started to come to him where he decided, all right, these are my opportunities to go. I got a size advantage. I can dribble past you. I can score on you. He spun on Shay. He went into the post and scored multiple times on Chet hartenstein. He had 32 in this game. He just looked good. Now this was one of those things for the Thunder where they had come in to the Hawks game the night before on a seven game win streak. The last three games they played teams on win streaks. Started with Miami, a seven game win streak that they beat and then they lost to Atlanta who was on a nine game win streak. And OKC was on an eight game win streak coming into this one. So some hot teams that they, you know are allowed to lose too once in a while. But that game against Atlanta was way worse than this one. So it was good to see. Good see Javon Carter out there being a great acquisition too for them.

[Jay Skeets]

Solid. I think he's been better for them than he was for the Bulls and better than Tyus Jones because he'll shoot. Javon Carter will shoot a three every time he touches it. Yeah, that's helpful. But Magic have to be happy to be done with the Alexander family. 41 for Nikhil Alexander Walker in the Atlanta game. 40 last night for SGA in five games that Gilgis Alexander or Alexander Walker has played against the Magic. 140 total points. That's 28 points per game and they are 50 against Orlando. Season is over.

[Trey Kirby]

I was trying. Are there any more Alex's that they could see? Is Alex Len still even in the league?

[Jay Skeets]

We have another Alex.

[Trey Kirby]

We got Caruso I guess but that's Alex Caruso.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

They lost to the Bucks. Could bring up Alex at. At a gumpo from the Wisconsin Herd. I suppose.

[Jay Skeets]

Alex Anders are is the only other Alex that we got going right now.

[Trey Kirby]

Anders Corey Alexander, he's been retired for a while.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, he has.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, let's keep it moving here. The second big thing from last night. The Timberwolves and the Nuggets both picked up much needed wins. Julius Randle scored 32 points to help Minnesota offset the absence of Anthony Edwards. We can get into that in a second. They beat the Suns 116. 104. And then Denver kept pace with Minnesota routing The injury plagued 76ers 124 to 96. JD we can throw up the standings as these guys start breaking these down because it's a log jam there. But big wins for Denver and Minnesota. They're currently in the fifth and sixth spot. You see the Lakers and Rockets above them. They play again tonight. So somebody will be taking an L there. So good wins. Of those two, which one you want to start with?

[Tas Melas]

Well, we'll start with the Wolves because it was just earlier this week we questioned whether or not the Timberwolves are going to put together a good march and you know rose color glasses here. Maybe Anthony Edwards injury helps them out in that guys like Julius Randall who had 32 yesterday can take on a bigger role and start to play better because he has not been good since the all star game. 13 games played. So it's not. Not, not a small amount of games. Not, not a small sample size. Sample size 16 and a half points per game on just 44 shooting. That's five points fewer than earlier in the season. And 24 from 3A sits down turnovers up. I don't know if it was the rumors going around that he could be dealt that got him playing this way just before the All Star Game, but he has not been going all that well. And maybe Anthony Edwards is, you know, classic general soreness. Just keep him out as much as possible to get these other guys going because I think they're really, really needed. I was not convinced that this was a good win. The Suns held this team to a close game until the fourth quarter. It was super close. They don't have their best defensive player in Dylan Brooks. They don't have their best big man in Mark Williams. They're in a back to back coming from Boston. Minnesota should smack them. They didn't. I'm not convinced on the Timberwolves, but maybe this helps them that Anthony Edwards is out. Maybe.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. I mean you want Edwards back and we'll talk a little bit more about him and especially the way he's getting close to requirements for post season awards. But back to back good Randall games I do think is really important for Minnesota. 32 last night, 32 against the Thunder in a loss. The turnovers are still there but at least he's hitting threes. Five for eight in these two games.

[Tas Melas]

That's great.

[Jay Skeets]

Would you consider that a small sample size two games?

[Tas Melas]

Yes, it's a smally.

[Jay Skeets]

That's a. The second smallest sample size you can get in fact.

[Tas Melas]

But I guess that's what he was last year essentially like he. He wasn't good until he needed to be in the. At the end of the season.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, he was good at the end of the season. Good into the playoffs as well. So that's encouraging. I think also the bench came through and the sort of not bench because IO did get the start and I thought he had a really good impact for Minnesota. 19 points, just pushing the pace, getting downhill and he's allowed to take mid range jumpers now on like when he played for the Bulls. But Bones Highland I thought was an X factor in this game. He got 11 points in the first quarter. Really got them on track back in the game against Phoenix. He finished with 22 on the night super risky guy I think to have as your X factor. Bones Highland. We'll see how he holds up in the playoffs, but he's been pretty solid for them. And Kyle Anderson is helpful as well. 7 points, 6 assists with Ant being out. Just another guy that can bring the ball up the court and start the offense for him.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Earlier in the day, the Wolves ruled out Anthony Edwards of last night's game due to right knee soreness before later announcing he would be reevaluated in one to two weeks. So he's going to miss some time here. He's going to miss some games and these are big games in terms of playoff seating, but they seem more like they're approaching it. More like, yeah, we just need to get this guy some rest here. It's aggravating him. Let's not like run him into the ground. So he'll get a couple games here and hopefully come back stronger and better than ever. But are you concerned at all here with the jockeying of playoff position and him missing some time here?

[Tas Melas]

Obviously you want the guy to come back healthy for the postseason, but even though it feels like a long time, there's still a decent amount of time till the playoffs. There's still a month, so I'm not so worried specifically about that. It's time for Julius Randall to pick it up. The way they ended the season going 174 in their last 21 regular season games last year before their conference finals run was dependent on Julius Randle. And they have this new player in, IO Dasumu who can take on a bigger role. Trey slipped it in there that he was unable to take mid range shots in Chicago and noted that recently. This was a quote of his. Dane Moore published this quote where he said quote in Chicago, mid range shots was really prohibited. It was threes and layups, no mid range shots unless it's the end of the shot clock. And you know, he went on to say Rudy is opening up space for him because of the picks, but really he just can shoot whenever he wants in this offense. He can just take over in mid range. So I guess it is a little bit of a, a blessing here if you want to look at it that way, that these guys get playing time specifically, I would assume. And Julius Randall, they play the Wolves,

[Trey Kirby]

play the Jazz next and the Blazers next. So those could be two wins even if fans not playing. And then it gets a little tougher. They go to Boston, play them and they got the Rockets and Pistons and then it's a three game stretch. So yeah, he's probably missing three to six games if we stick to this timeline here.

[Jay Skeets]

Well, I think they said he'll be reevaluated in a week to 2.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, good point.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. So we have no idea when he's coming back. And the wolves do have the toughest schedule remaining of the teams that are in the mix for the three through six seeds, LA, Houston, Denver, and Minnesota. I think they only play four tanking teams in their last 13 games. So I didn't really check the other schedules, but I know according to playoff status.com that the Wolves have a tougher schedule than all those teams. So the timing is pretty bad. And the timing is bad for Ant as well. He's missed 12 games technically because he only played three minutes of one game early in the season, so it doesn't count towards his season total. If he misses a week, that's another three games that he's out. That takes him up to 15. If he misses two weeks, that takes him up to 18 and he's disqualified from postseason awards. He's one of the many candidates that's out there for fifth spot on the all NBA first team. You can kind of consider it fifth place on the MVP ballot as well. He is one of like five or six guys, so he needs to play. He needs to play well. So to me, that kind of eliminates the Tyrese Halliburton schedule last year where he would come back too early and only play like 20 minutes a game to get to the requirements. They need Ant to come back and be ant, lead them to a high seed, and then that probably gets him more votes for first team for MVP as well. So I think actually pretty poor timing, all things considered for the Wolves, the good news is that Randall maybe is turning a corner. We'll see.

[Trey Kirby]

Yep.

[Tas Melas]

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[Trey Kirby]

Oh, could this vintage store be any cuter?

[Jay Skeets]

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[Trey Kirby]

Right?

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[Jay Skeets]

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[Trey Kirby]

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[Tas Melas]

Yeah, he did stay in for a few possessions after that, so it wasn't an immediate bang. My back hurts. I gotta leave the game. There's that positivity for it. But the same morning they announced that Isaiah Stewart is out with a cash train for at least a week. So they got to start, you know, playing together to, and, and get into a groove. I mean they've been playing together most of the season, but get into a groove here going into the playoffs. Should they lose or is it possible that they lose the number one seed in the East? I think that's highly, highly unlikely. They're up four on the Celtics. They got the tie break on them. There's 14 games remaining. So other guys have to step up because, you know, they, they haven't had the ability to, to insert a Kevin Herder all that much. And so they just need to play more minutes together. You know, if Kate, Kate needs to come back though, he is, he's everything.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

For that team.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, it was just a weird landing. Plus he had a guy on him. So I mean it seems like they are being cautious. He's not really in danger of missing out on awards. He's only missed seven games so far this season. So assuming he comes back in a couple of weeks, even if it's that long, I think it'll be fine because they've got such a nice buffer over Boston. Basically a five game lead since the Celtics would actually have to pass them. But yeah, like Taz said, you want your guys as healthy as possible going into the playoffs. And that hasn't been the case for Detroit lately. We've seen Cade take a couple of rest games. Now he's got a legit injury. The calf strain, I think, is worrying for Isaiah Stewart. Those things don't tend to heal up all that quickly. And he's been out of the lineup with suspensions and being banged up anyways. So, yeah, they would like to be pumping on all cylinders, which is literally what a Piston does. And I don't think they are right now. They kind of hit a tough patch here, but did get a win last night.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. And they get another win when they play the Wizards in their next game, too. And they get career highs for guys. You play the Wizards, you get career highs. Jalen Duran came through with Kate Cunningham out, 36 points, career high. Bam. Out of bio, obviously, career high recently with his 83. Corey Kispert, career high against the Wizards. So last few weeks, I mean.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, especially if you're an NBA center. You name two of them there. Bam. 83 points. That's good. Keita had an awesome game against the Wizards. He went for 24 and 10, shot 85% from the field. Porzingis recently came back, he went for 30 points against the Wizards. And then like you said, Jalen Duran last night, 36 points, 12 boards, shot 77%. So, yeah, play the Wizards, you're going to be all right. And I was thinking, too, with Cade, like Trey Johnson III falling on him, one of the better guys in the NBA to have a guy like, to have fall on your back. He's got to be one of the lightest guys in the league.

[Jay Skeets]

He's very skinny.

[Trey Kirby]

He's like, what is. He's listed. He's well under £200, I'll tell you that. And I know he's a little taller, so maybe he's got some weight there. But, you know, he's on. The point is he's on a very short list of, like, guys I would want to have to land on my back. Yuki would be on that list.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Bones.

[Trey Kirby]

Bones Highland. Good one.

[Jay Skeets]

He's skinny.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Maybe too sharp, though. Maybe I don't want.

[Jay Skeets]

He's pointier. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Who else? Let us know in the stream? Trey Young. Good one.

[Jay Skeets]

Light as well. How about another Wizard, Will Riley. He's skinny.

[Trey Kirby]

He's skinny. Seems like he weighs more, but maybe he probably does. He's a little taller.

[Jay Skeets]

I just bring it up. He plays. He's playing well right now. 21 last night. 20 or more in three of his last five games. He's doubled the scoring average since the All Star break stuff. He's barely 20 years old way to go. He's got blemishes on his forehead.

[Trey Kirby]

He does.

[Tas Melas]

He's a kid.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Get him an oxy pad.

[Trey Kirby]

Lamello Ball dropped 30 points as the Hornets beat the short handed Heat. 136. 106. This was our pick em game. We'll obviously get to tonight's pick em game. But like it was close for three quarters. It was a game for three quarters. Even though the Heat were very shorthanded. No bam. A couple other guys out. But the hornets were up like 96, 88. And then they just blew him out of the water here. Trey. A 40 to 18 fourth quarter and the game turns into a 30 point victory for. For Charlotte.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, I feel like I was betrayed. No bam out of bio going for 83 points. So they elevated Norm Powell to the starting lineup and it just wasn't good. But you're right. It was all about the fourth quarter for the Hornets. And I actually thought Kobe White played a really good game.

[Trey Kirby]

Hell yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

He only had a couple in the last quarter. But that's because it turned into a blowout. But 24 points for Kobe last night. Hit three threes, had three assists. Only a second 20 point game since coming over to the Hornets. Been very up and down. But you like to see the up ones.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Yeah. I thought he just kept the spirit of this team going. He was their only guy who really scored a lot off the bench. You could see it out there. He was very, very important to get them to the fourth quarter where the LaMelo leading this team as a TR. More traditional point guard was very evident. He was setting up Brandon Miller for those threes who went splash, splash. Hit two threes in a row and started talking to the fans there. It was great vibe now in Charlotte

[Trey Kirby]

which is good because his team is winning.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Good crowd.

[Tas Melas]

Whoever was calling out Brandon Miller, I mean he was getting it. I. I was trying to do the. The lip reading. It looked like a Keep talking. He wanted him to keep talking. I love that guy. I mean they destroyed the Heat in the fourth quarter as they picked up their defense in the fourth quarter. A little bit of worrisome. That bamboo sustained this while he was out. I mean the two days in between their last game and this one. So there's a little bit of worry there. It's a calf strain, you know. And they throw in Khalil Ware in his place as well. Who's over six from three. They all shot 19% from three as a team. Not so good. But the. The fourth quarter was where it was over because it was kind of close.

[Trey Kirby]

It was. And you said Kobe White, you know, a couple up and down moments here in Charlotte. But overall I think a positive addition at the deadline. Feels like him IO de sumo with the Wolves, maybe Jared McCain because you know, they got him sort of for nothing and he's already had moments for Thunder. Those three guys have really added to their teams here.

[Tas Melas]

Oh yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

And we're sort of acquired for next to little. So.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Good stuff from those guards again. Last night he was, he kind of buoyed that team. He kept them alive. He replaced Trey Mann as that guy who I thought would be that guy in Charlotte. Did not happen. But he's great. He is absolutely Kobe's great.

[Trey Kirby]

Final big thing that happened last night, Russell Westbrook, he leapt Steve Nash and Mark Jackson for fifth on the all time assist list. So Westbrook entered the game in seventh position. He was just one assist behind Mark Jackson. But with his second and third assist of the night, the 37 year old surpassed both those guys on the all time list, which we're showing you on YouTube. So quite an achievement for this guy. He already holds the NBA mark for career triple doubles. He. I think he has the NBA career record for rebounds by a guard if you, if you count such a thing. And he's like 14th on the NBA's all time scoring list with the points he's at, which is over 27, 000. So Kings lost. Yeah, but, but look, I mean this is a notable achievement that Russ is up.

[Tas Melas]

But they won because they lost. They need to lose.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Russia stat.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Anything to add to. To Mr. Russell Westbrook?

[Tas Melas]

Not me. He's just a special guy.

[Jay Skeets]

Just a special guy.

[Tas Melas]

He's a special guy. Doing it for a long time.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, exactly. He's done it for a long time. And especially when Kevin Durant went to the warriors, the opportunities for Westbrook to pile up stats really, really increased. He's fifth in assists, second most turnovers ever. Led the league in turnovers more often than he led it in assists. But that's just because he has the ball a lot and high risk, high reward player. So I was kind of shocked that he was fifth in assists. But then you're like, well, he's also played 18 seasons and had the ball a ton, so it all adds up. Who are Russell Westbrook's top five most assisted players in his career?

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, that's fun.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

He's played for a lot of teams here.

[Jay Skeets]

He's played for a lot of teams.

[Trey Kirby]

Durant so let's go. Durant.

[Jay Skeets]

Kevin Durant. Number one. 1,466 of Westbrook's assists. So I'm.

[Tas Melas]

This is another Thunder.

[Trey Kirby]

It's gotta be. Search, Search.

[Jay Skeets]

I will say the top five are also. Are all Thunder.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay. Serge ibaka.

[Jay Skeets]

Sergebaca. Number three. 774, Stephen Adams. Number two. 809.

[Trey Kirby]

Collison.

[Jay Skeets]

No Collison.

[Trey Kirby]

Harden. No, not.

[Jay Skeets]

No Harden.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, there's got to be some weird ones in there.

[Jay Skeets]

Maybe the last two are a little surprising.

[Tas Melas]

Tabo Cephalosa.

[Jay Skeets]

No. Better players. Better players for sure.

[Trey Kirby]

On the Thunder, though.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. One guy. He was good. He was very good for the Thunder. Made a lot of headlines for the Thunder as well. You just don't think of him as a Thunder when you're considering the entirety of his career. For sure.

[Trey Kirby]

You don't.

[Tas Melas]

Not James Harden.

[Trey Kirby]

No, I said no.

[Tas Melas]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Trey Kirby]

No.

[Tas Melas]

It's too short.

[Trey Kirby]

You don't think of him as a really. A Thunder.

[Jay Skeets]

I think only two seasons with the Thunder.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, just two seasons.

[Trey Kirby]

Chris Paul.

[Jay Skeets]

This guy had no. So close. So close. This guy had unfinished business with the Thunder. It's acquired via trade. Then he left via trade. It was the greatest trade that the Thunder have ever made.

[Trey Kirby]

When he left Shay, Gilders, Alexander. I mean, hold on.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes, he was part of that.

[Trey Kirby]

Talking about that trade. Who the hell did they.

[Tas Melas]

Paul George.

[Jay Skeets]

Paul George.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, my God.

[Jay Skeets]

420 assists to Paul George. You don't think of him as a.

[Trey Kirby]

No, I obviously. I couldn't even think of the guy's name.

[Jay Skeets]

Third in MVP voting. I think that second season.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, he was good. It was good.

[Jay Skeets]

And the last guy. The last guy was early in the Thunder days with Westbrook.

[Trey Kirby]

Jeff Green.

[Jay Skeets]

Jeff Green.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

Top five. Durant, Stephen Adams, Serge Ibaka, Paul George. Jeff Green. One last trivia question. Who was his first assist to. There's no way. You'll get it. October 29th.

[Trey Kirby]

Luke Ridnau.

[Jay Skeets]

No. You get one guess. I'll say. If he was playing today, we would call him the Gas Man. The Gas Man. The Gas Man.

[Trey Kirby]

What the hell is that?

[Jay Skeets]

Maybe the oil man. You could call him. He's not Daniel's played view. But he has an oil man. You don't. Petra.

[Tas Melas]

Johan Petro.

[Trey Kirby]

Nice.

[Jay Skeets]

Johan Petro, the Gas Man.

[Trey Kirby]

That's his first assist.

[Jay Skeets]

First assist. Yeah. I came off the bench back in the day.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Tas Melas]

One weird thing to add to the things that happened last night.

[Trey Kirby]

Sure.

[Tas Melas]

Joel Embiid didn't play In Denver, his sixth straight game not playing. That's not weird, but that is not weird. But I just. First of all, Joel Embiid loves a little contra. He's a.

[Jay Skeets]

He's a wrestler.

[Tas Melas]

You know, he's that kind of guy. And so they booed him when he came to his seat in the third quarter. It was the first time he came to a seat and the Nuggets fans booed him. I just love that. And he loves it.

[Trey Kirby]

I think he had a moment with Jokic after the game going right.

[Jay Skeets]

I didn't see that.

[Trey Kirby]

He approached him. Hey, man. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I never play here six straight times. That's crazy. Crazy. All right, let's take a break and then we'll start filling out our March Madness bracket.

[Tas Melas]

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[Trey Kirby]

Fairly new. Good stuff. If you're joining us live on YouTube and you like those pipes on Tas Mellows, hit the like button. Subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. I. I did meant to bring up when we were talking to Anthony Edwards, did you see him playing all the sports against Barack Obama.

[Jay Skeets]

That was awesome.

[Trey Kirby]

It's a pretty funny clip.

[Jay Skeets]

So funny man.

[Trey Kirby]

Playing horse. And then they played some ping pong. They played ping pong. They played Connect 4. Yeah, that's drawn a blank on ping pong table tennis.

[Jay Skeets]

Please open up that left hand, OG Open up that hand. Oh, gee.

[Trey Kirby]

Pretty funny.

[Jay Skeets]

That was amazing. The guy is himself with everybody.

[Trey Kirby]

I know there's a.

[Jay Skeets]

The President of the United States talking about doing a promo for opening his presidential library and he's trash talking him the entire time.

[Trey Kirby]

It's awesome and it's very endearing and it's, uh. Okay, so it's time for a bunch of college basketball dummies to fill out the perfect bracket. We've done this a few years in a row. Part of the fun is we do have our big pool. The link is in the show notes. Or I'll. I'll at least add it to the show notes. I think I forgot what I'm just looking at.

[Jay Skeets]

I'm gonna share something and you gotta

[Trey Kirby]

try and beat us. That's the fun of this thing, seeing see if you can beat our bracket. So I think I'll. I forgot to add it, but I will add it anyway. Let's do it because this takes forever.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, let's do it because this takes forever. The regions have names, but to me they just have locations on a paper. So we're starting top left, AKA the East region.

[Trey Kirby]

Sure, sure.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

You think I'm going to remember the west region is on the right. How's that even possible? Let's get serious here. The east is on the right side of the country. It should be on the right side of the bracket.

[Trey Kirby]

Wow. Interesting.

[Tas Melas]

I agree.

[Jay Skeets]

That's my new NCAA take. Switch up the directions.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, did I just see we haven't had an NCAA men's winner from the west side of this country.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

In like 30 years.

[Jay Skeets]

I saw.

[Trey Kirby]

I know. Arizona. Yeah. Arizona is one of the favorites right. This year. And it's like it's been a very long time. It's all. If you cut the country right down the middle, it's at least all of them coming from the east.

[Jay Skeets]

And keep it in mind.

[Trey Kirby]

Keep it in mind. Keep it in mind.

[Jay Skeets]

Every strategy is valid.

[Trey Kirby]

That's right.

[Jay Skeets]

When it comes to completely guess in the no dunks NCAA Tournament Classic. If you want to find our bracket at the end of this, it's going to be called Trey Kirby too. Cuz I don't know. I've used.

[Trey Kirby]

You can change the name though if you.

[Jay Skeets]

900 times.

[Trey Kirby]

How I think you click on those little dots, don't you?

[Jay Skeets]

No.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh.

[Jay Skeets]

I thought you did edit Avatar view scoring rules.

[Trey Kirby]

There is a way. There is a way. I have done it. But you're right. This is a.

[Jay Skeets]

It's impossible to.

[Trey Kirby]

I know.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know. So we're going to be calling Kirby too, anyways. Duke or Sienna?

[Trey Kirby]

Duke.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Let's go.

[Tas Melas]

You're probably going to pick Duke.

[Jay Skeets]

You're gonna probably pick Duke.

[Tas Melas]

Sienna. Saints. I saw that's a Sienna.

[Jay Skeets]

Saints. Cool name.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, cool name.

[Trey Kirby]

Pretty good.

[Tas Melas]

Made me think about taking them.

[Jay Skeets]

But probably as in a Bernard apparently. How about that? Oh, that's a cool logo.

[Trey Kirby]

That is cool. Is that dog wearing glasses?

[Jay Skeets]

I think it's just yet. Oh, it's got color around the eyes.

[Trey Kirby]

Wearing sunglasses like Dame Edna glasses. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

All right.

[Trey Kirby]

Sorry.

[Jay Skeets]

Sienna. Saint Bernards. All right. Ohio State Buckeyes.

[Trey Kirby]

TCU Horned Frogs eight, nine.

[Jay Skeets]

That's one of the closest matchups there is.

[Trey Kirby]

I like the purple of the horn Frogs.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

And I'm not the biggest Ohio State guy.

[Jay Skeets]

I'm with you.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, let's go. Sorry. No vote on this one.

[Jay Skeets]

What do you think?

[Trey Kirby]

We're going froggies. Come on.

[Tas Melas]

You guys are. You guys are riding with tcu. I don't have a strong feeling about the Buckeyes.

[Jay Skeets]

Frog dog. Cool. St. John's what are they? They're the.

[Tas Melas]

They're a Red Storm.

[Jay Skeets]

Red storm.

[Tas Melas]

I like St. John.

[Trey Kirby]

So do I. And I. I know it's only because of like Slam magazine from the 90s.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah. They were one of the first schools get Jordan jerseys. Them and. And Cincinnati and am I wrong?

[Trey Kirby]

Was big for a time of our lives and then disappeared for a huge chunk of it and then now seemed back.

[Jay Skeets]

Now they're back. They have as their coach.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, that's why. Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

That's why they're back.

[Trey Kirby]

All right. Good.

[Jay Skeets]

You're. Good job. Johnny's nice. It's also fun to call them the Johnny's. Kansas. The Kansas Jayhawks versus the Cal Baptist. Cal Baptist. The Baptizers. You got Darren Peterson, a potential number one overall draft pick from Kansas. How many minutes play?

[Tas Melas]

You gotta ride him.

[Jay Skeets]

Hop on and ride him.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. We got. He's going through to the next weekend.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, we want to see. We want to see. That's going to be Peterson versus Boozer as a potential matchup down the line. Right.

[Tas Melas]

Duke versus Kansas.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. All right. Louisville. The Cardinals versus the South Florida Bulls. I think we have a notable injury. This guy Mikel Brown is supposed to be quite good.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

And I don't think he's playing.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, could we. Could we smell an upset here?

[Jay Skeets]

We could smell an upset.

[Trey Kirby]

Double digit advancing.

[Tas Melas]

Ride it. Ride the.

[Trey Kirby]

Let's do it. I mean, that's a good looking.

[Jay Skeets]

Ride the bull. You attend that Lassie

[Tas Melas]

tame that last year. The guy's injured. You gotta see this opportunity. You gotta see this opportunity. South Florida. Is that what we said that's called? Yes.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Usf. Cool logo to a U with horns on it. I didn't even know you could do that. Michigan State Spartans, North Dakota State. What do you think this thing is? That's a bison. Absolutely a bison.

[Trey Kirby]

So our. Our South Dakota State is not in the dance. Our jackrabbit.

[Jay Skeets]

No jackrabbits, unfortunately.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, well, I don't feel as good about the north as I do the South Dakota team, so I'm Michigan State.

[Tas Melas]

Let's do it.

[Jay Skeets]

Sure. I like it. Ucla, the Bruins. Central Florida. There may be the Knights. I think they are.

[Trey Kirby]

That sounds right. Fairly evenly mad.

[Jay Skeets]

That's pretty evenly matched. A 30th versus a 51st. When you're talking net rank, which we are.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, of course.

[Jay Skeets]

Yep. Oh, look at that. High points per game. I like this. This is making it extra easy for us dummies. They're like, look, 30th is less than 51st. They get a dot.

[Trey Kirby]

That's the diff.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Count the dots. Oh, three. Three. What are we supposed to do?

[Trey Kirby]

Are you a Ken Palm guy?

[Jay Skeets]

Am I a Ken Palm guy? I like to know that there's something out there called Ken Palm. I don't know what it is. I don't know who he is. But it's important, the rankings, right? Do you see it on here? I don't pick this one.

[Trey Kirby]

I got no feel on this.

[Tas Melas]

No feel.

[Jay Skeets]

We're talking Tyler Biloe versus Riley Kugel. That's how you like. Keep your pelvic floor tight.

[Trey Kirby]

That's right. Squeeze it, Kugels.

[Tas Melas]

Squeeze them, Googles.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, let's squeeze with them.

[Tas Melas]

Squeeze them into the next round.

[Trey Kirby]

Everybody in the crowd does that when he scores up

[Jay Skeets]

Yukon. They've won some championships.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tas Melas]

They're Furman, but they're playing a fur man.

[Jay Skeets]

Furman's local, I think.

[Trey Kirby]

Right. Really sort of interesting.

[Jay Skeets]

Local enough that I. People have gone to Yukon. Furman University.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Oh, well, I don't take.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, sorry.

[Trey Kirby]

You're. It's in South Carolina.

[Jay Skeets]

Close enough.

[Trey Kirby]

Greenville. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Nice. Yukon's in. Okay. Bottom left. AKA the South.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

Florida they're the defending national champions. They don't know who they're playing yet. They're either playing P VAM or somebody else. PVAM. Wow. Net rank, 300. That's. That's high. A lot of dots for the Gators here.

[Trey Kirby]

So that game's on tonight?

[Jay Skeets]

That game is on tonight. As well as our Miami of Ohio Redhawks going as well.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, that's right. 31 and 1. Our team.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, yes.

[Jay Skeets]

Clemson, Iowa. I think there's a very good player on Iowa. Let's see his name. Bennett Sturts. He's a. He's a draft guy. 20 points per game in college. Been shooting the ball really well. I think lately. He's going up against Godfrey. RJ Godfrey.

[Trey Kirby]

Wow, that's a good name.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, very good name. The dots say Iowa.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I think I'm with him.

[Jay Skeets]

You going dots?

[Trey Kirby]

I'm with the dots.

[Jay Skeets]

Look at. They got a. They got a Lower net rank. 27th versus 34th.

[Tas Melas]

Local school? Sort of.

[Jay Skeets]

They're as local as Furman is

[Trey Kirby]

a football school, though.

[Jay Skeets]

It is a football school, right?

[Tas Melas]

Iowa.

[Jay Skeets]

Sure. The Hawkeyes, Vanderbilt Commodores, McNeese State. That looks like a cowboy. They got aura.

[Trey Kirby]

That's aura. He left. Do you know that story?

[Tas Melas]

He left.

[Jay Skeets]

I didn't know he left. Yeah, I just saw recently that he's back.

[Trey Kirby]

He went somewhere else and then was like, no, I gotta go back.

[Jay Skeets]

Wow.

[Trey Kirby]

To McNeese. So he did.

[Jay Skeets]

Wow.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

The return. I mean, you throw out the dots when it comes to Amir Khan coming back.

[Tas Melas]

What did they do last year? Yeah, Amir. Yeah. What did they do last year?

[Jay Skeets]

They did win.

[Tas Melas]

They won, right?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, they did last year. They did.

[Tas Melas]

It was last year.

[Jay Skeets]

Well, they got Larry Johnson. I didn't know he still had eligibility.

[Trey Kirby]

Grandmama's still alive.

[Jay Skeets]

Grandson.

[Trey Kirby]

I loved when we learned that Joe dumars went to McNeese. Yeah, we did learn that.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

That's always stuck with me.

[Jay Skeets]

Tyler Tann.

[Trey Kirby]

I don't know. I never have a feel on Vandy.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, that's just Vandy.

[Tas Melas]

I don't know.

[Trey Kirby]

They don't feel like a basketball school to me, but they're obviously very good. I got no clue.

[Tas Melas]

Go ahead. I think I'm riding Vanderbilt.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Done.

[Jay Skeets]

Vander wasn't built in a day. Nebraska. The Corn Huskers versus Troy. Just one guy. Just one guy. Just one dot, but wow.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, here's how we decide this. Do you know a Troy in your life and do you like him?

[Tas Melas]

I don't.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay. He doesn't. Do you know A Troy in your life?

[Jay Skeets]

I do.

[Trey Kirby]

Do you like him?

[Jay Skeets]

I do.

[Trey Kirby]

J.D. do you know a Troy in your life and do you like him? I do and I don't. Okay. I'm the deciding factor. I know a Troy in my life. He became a cop. Do not like him.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, no.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, yeah. So sorry, Troy, you're done.

[Jay Skeets]

All right, Great, Great. I love it. And for me personally, like, I like to see that name get taken out too close.

[Trey Kirby]

Troy and Trey.

[Tas Melas]

Wow.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, unc. The Tar Heels versus Virginia Commonwealth University. They had a Cinderella run once upon a time. In the Shaka smart days, they did. Unfortunately for North Carolina, Caleb Wilson out.

[Trey Kirby]

He's not playing a no.

[Jay Skeets]

Broke his hand. Rehabbing a previous broken hand.

[Trey Kirby]

So he's out for the tournament.

[Jay Skeets]

He's out for the tournament.

[Trey Kirby]

That sucks.

[Jay Skeets]

It's like a top five pick kind of guy.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, they're likely to get bounced because he's up, that's why. That's what I read.

[Jay Skeets]

I think it's likely.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

He's their team or a big part of their team.

[Tas Melas]

I'm riding vcu.

[Jay Skeets]

Wow.

[Tas Melas]

Sorry, Unc, we got to get some upsets.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, we need some 2, 250 or, you know, five 12s or six, 11 upsets.

[Jay Skeets]

Yep. Illinois. The Fighting Illini taking on the Penn Panthers. I think they're the Panthers. Okay. This Illinois team's pretty good, son.

[Trey Kirby]

I like that.

[Jay Skeets]

Is there they got a guy who came from like an unheralded recruit to now he's going to be a top 10 draft pick. And what's his name? Keaton Wagler. Yes, I believe his name had some big dudes, but my friend Nick, he's a high school basketball coach in Chicago and one of his players plays for Penn, so.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, we're consulted.

[Jay Skeets]

Dalton Scantleberry.

[Tas Melas]

Scantleberry.

[Jay Skeets]

Sounds like a guy that would go to an Ivy League school.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, he sounds very smart. Dalton Scantleberry rowing team. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Don't mess anything up. You could be in a scandal.

[Jay Skeets]

Barry, I won't be able to face my dad if I.

[Trey Kirby]

I think Illinois. I'm sorry. I got Illinois going far, man.

[Tas Melas]

Well, you're not taking scantle?

[Jay Skeets]

Nah.

[Tas Melas]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

I think he is a scantle on the playing time early in his career. Just a freshman.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, okay. He's just a freshman too early.

[Jay Skeets]

St. Mary's they're the gales. They always show up to the tournament with their gray socks and play pretty well. Texas A and M, they're the Aggies. Are you more of a bird fan or a farm fan?

[Trey Kirby]

Birds. Birds.

[Jay Skeets]

Wow.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, I'm going. St. Mary's in the 710 matchup.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, that's a. That looks like a Lithuanian name there.

[Jay Skeets]

That does look like a Lithuania.

[Trey Kirby]

Never that guy. But I'm telling you that right now. That guy can shoot.

[Jay Skeets]

That guy can shoot. It's a forward, 18 per game.

[Tas Melas]

Go with him.

[Jay Skeets]

He can shoot. That guy can shoot. Guaranteed, Houston. They're good. The Cougs playing against the Idaho Vandals. Very cool name. Houston always has a great defense. As you can see, only 62.9 points per game allowed here. They got a high draft guy as well this year. Kingston Flemings.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Yep. I'm Team Houston for sure.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

What a name.

[Trey Kirby]

You know, look, we're in the new Nil era here, right? Like we are. There's a lot more chalk for being honest. Feels like it. Last year we had four number one seeds. I'm not saying that's gonna happen again, but.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Well, there's a 9.1 chance that we get consecutive Final Fours with all one seats.

[Trey Kirby]

I'm saying no chance.

[Tas Melas]

No chance.

[Trey Kirby]

No ch.

[Jay Skeets]

9%.

[Tas Melas]

That's what I'm reading from EvanMaya.com.

[Jay Skeets]

okay. Does Evan Maya know Ken Palm? Probably. Arizona. They. Are they maybe the number one overall seed?

[Trey Kirby]

I thought it was Duke. No.

[Jay Skeets]

Is Duke the number one overall seed? You tell me.

[Trey Kirby]

No, actually, I don't know. But look at this team. They're playing well. Actually, I don't think they're.

[Jay Skeets]

Long Island University.

[Trey Kirby]

Is that a potential.

[Jay Skeets]

No, I think they're already.

[Trey Kirby]

They're in. In.

[Jay Skeets]

They're in.

[Trey Kirby]

And. Okay. I bring. I want to talk about them for a second.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, do it.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, we're not taking an upset of a 116 nature, but this is our team.

[Jay Skeets]

J.D.

[Trey Kirby]

you as well. This is the Canadian team.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

They got, like, five Canadians on this team. A whole bunch three start, I think.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Two other guys are like, notable reserves. They all teamed up there. I mean, there was a lot of transferring going on. I don't know why it's at this place, but pretty cool. Be cheering for them to keep a close game against Arizona.

[Tas Melas]

Somebody tried to sell us on Lehigh being the Canadian team. We'll get to that one later.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, I use the real one in my book.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, they got more. It sounds like we got to go

[Trey Kirby]

Arizona, but I'm telling you right now, they're going to be within 10 points with, like, four minutes ago, and people are going to be, oh, what's going on here?

[Jay Skeets]

Could they do it? We'll see. We'll see if they can do it.

[Tas Melas]

Good luck.

[Jay Skeets]

Villanova Wildcats, Utah State. I think they're an Aggie as well. Sam Merrill. Is he a Utah State guy? They got five dots. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Five dots.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, and look, a no dot. There's a no dot situation here because 0 and 0 against top 25 teams, but Nova has not beaten a top 25 team.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, okay, so that's interesting. Does that even work, Ken? Strength of schedule, 46th for Utah State, but they haven't played a top 25 team. Have played a harder schedule somehow than Villanova. Really makes you think. M.J. collins versus Tyler Perkins.

[Trey Kirby]

I got no feel on this one, man. Yeah, yeah.

[Tas Melas]

He didn't give us anything that would sway one way or the other.

[Jay Skeets]

Cats or farms.

[Tas Melas]

Cats or farms?

[Trey Kirby]

Cats. Who's cheering for farms?

[Jay Skeets]

Hey, man.

[Trey Kirby]

My.

[Jay Skeets]

My hometown invented the corn harvesting machine, so I'm a big farm fan. Big, big farm. Wow.

[Trey Kirby]

The farmer's going through.

[Jay Skeets]

We are farmers.

[Tas Melas]

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[Trey Kirby]

Oh, could this vintage store be any cuter?

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[Trey Kirby]

Huh?

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[Jay Skeets]

I think Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide, based on the February 2025 Nielsen report.

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[Jay Skeets]

The Badge Dogs. The Wisconsin Badgers versus The High Point.

[Trey Kirby]

I've seen this one as a pointer, a popular, like, upset pick.

[Jay Skeets]

Wow.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I know.

[Jay Skeets]

Wow. Look at this. Looks like a high scoring game. 90 points per game for High Point. 83 for Wisconsin. It's a new era for the Badgers. They're not just all big white guys. Yeah, they probably are. But now they can score a lot.

[Trey Kirby]

I think that's the thing with this High Point team. Obviously they are just a high octane offense.

[Jay Skeets]

Literally high points.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jay Skeets]

That's awesome.

[Trey Kirby]

Dare we take them or is that crazy? Wisconsin and your family.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah. That's where Laura went.

[Trey Kirby]

Right. So we're going to Are we forced to take them out of loyalty?

[Jay Skeets]

I. I don't even think Laura picked Wisconsin to win the championship this year.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, wow.

[Tas Melas]

Oh.

[Trey Kirby]

Even she doesn't believe.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know why. It's not like she's been totally tapped into the results.

[Trey Kirby]

She knows that they're playing this year. She knows their weaknesses.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

High Point could really.

[Jay Skeets]

You want to go?

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, how many 12 point fives have we done? No, we haven't done.

[Jay Skeets]

We. Not St. John's we gotta have one and not Vanderbilt.

[Trey Kirby]

We have one man or the Zips.

[Jay Skeets]

All right, let's do it.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

High Point.

[Trey Kirby]

High Point. We're going High Point.

[Tas Melas]

Didn't see that coming.

[Jay Skeets]

Arkansas Razorbacks. John Calipari's team that versus the Hawaii. I believe they're the Warriors. Darius Acuff junior. This guy's a high draft product and a very exciting player.

[Trey Kirby]

Very exciting. I think it'll be interesting to see him in the NBA. He might unfortunately give a lot back on the other end, but. Yeah, he's light toad on that end. I like Arkansas.

[Jay Skeets]

I like Arkansas.

[Trey Kirby]

So I read something about Hawaii. They did this thing like, because they have to come over for these tournaments at the end. Right.

[Tas Melas]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Instead of flying all the way back, they now stay stateside. Probably better. Like on their, you know, mental game.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, for sure.

[Trey Kirby]

And not having to take a long flight. Yeah. But I like Arkansas. I actually have Arkansas going pretty far in my brackets.

[Jay Skeets]

Nice. The BYU Cougs versus the Texas Longhorns, who qualified last night on a game winner from a guy.

[Trey Kirby]

Hell of a jump shot.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, it was a. That was a fun game to watch.

[Trey Kirby]

I was.

[Jay Skeets]

I was infected with the madness last night.

[Trey Kirby]

Both games were. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Got close.

[Trey Kirby]

College is funny. It's like. It's like a 12 point game and there's like a handful of minutes left and it's like always gets close.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

They like, suddenly these kids can't miss a three pointer when they're down, no doubt six to 12 points in the final couple of minutes. Like it's 80% of the time they hit it. So weird. I got no feel.

[Tas Melas]

I like Texas. Apparently they are better than their seed.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, great. And Gordian will be happy if we take time.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. We're saying an upset for AJ DeBancer, saying, You're one and done. You're out of here. Yeah, well, I'll play 40 minutes.

[Tas Melas]

Give us some information on.

[Jay Skeets]

We got five. Five to one in the dots and DeBance is averaging 25 a game.

[Trey Kirby]

Come on. Man.

[Jay Skeets]

Six rebounds.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

A lot of injuries. Nate Pickens out. Richie Saunders out.

[Trey Kirby]

They're gonna play a boxing one on this team.

[Jay Skeets]

How dare you. How dare you say that.

[Trey Kirby]

Too soon. Yeah, he got his team got boxed in one.

[Jay Skeets]

We got box and won in the second half last night. And we fell apart. Tragedy. You gotta watch out for those junk defenses, especially in college. Come on.

[Trey Kirby]

That's good coaching. That's good. That's good coaching. I'd love to shake the hand of that coach against who you played against last.

[Jay Skeets]

These guys.

[Tas Melas]

These guys. Apparently these guys are underseated though. Apparently. Hey, man.

[Jay Skeets]

I love it.

[Trey Kirby]

All right. All right. Texas.

[Jay Skeets]

That'd be an interesting talking point. You can't even beat Texas in the ncaa.

[Trey Kirby]

We were just. We were just there.

[Jay Skeets]

We were just. Where?

[Trey Kirby]

Wait, were we at that?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, we were in Austin.

[Trey Kirby]

That was where we were at. Yeah. When we saw Wemby play the Suns,

[Jay Skeets]

that's where we were at.

[Trey Kirby]

The cheerful.

[Jay Skeets]

That's right. The Gonzaga Bulldogs vs. The Kennesta State Owls.

[Trey Kirby]

Now you want to talk about local team?

[Jay Skeets]

This is the most local team you could get, I guess, outside of Georgia Tech, which is.

[Trey Kirby]

That's our slightly more guys. That's our team. That's our massive upset.

[Tas Melas]

Why do you say that?

[Trey Kirby]

Because they're the owls. They're nearby.

[Jay Skeets]

14 to 3. That's a hoodie.

[Tas Melas]

Who baby?

[Trey Kirby]

Hootie Hoo. Hashtag Hooty.

[Jay Skeets]

Hoodie who baby?

[Trey Kirby]

Let's go.

[Tas Melas]

All right.

[Jay Skeets]

This is our crazy Simeon Coddle. 20 per game. Graham Ek wishes.

[Trey Kirby]

Is he out or. What's that say?

[Jay Skeets]

Not good. That's not.

[Tas Melas]

It says sus.

[Jay Skeets]

Is this one of the guys that was caught up in the Shavers injury?

[Tas Melas]

Sus. That's all we got. It's all the information we got.

[Jay Skeets]

That's not good. It's gotta be suspense.

[Tas Melas]

Are we cheering for a Sus guy?

[Trey Kirby]

No.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh.

[Trey Kirby]

That team might rally around Brayden Huff.

[Jay Skeets]

He's a Illinois boy. It was a good player. Played for.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, then maybe you're. Maybe I'm getting talked out of it. But I. I don't know. We need.

[Jay Skeets]

We're. We're waiting here for a quick Simeon Coddle report.

[Tas Melas]

I got nothing.

[Jay Skeets]

What's.

[Tas Melas]

He sucks for being awesome. It looks like he's suspended.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, not good.

[Jay Skeets]

Not good. Missing 20 points per game, but 83.

[Tas Melas]

That's earlier in the season though.

[Trey Kirby]

What the hell's his name?

[Jay Skeets]

Katle? Simeon Cottle.

[Trey Kirby]

Simeon Cottle.

[Jay Skeets]

He's gonna.

[Tas Melas]

Maybe he has.

[Jay Skeets]

Is he gonna be part of the point shaving Thing.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, yeah, he is.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, he was.

[Tas Melas]

I should say he was charging the points. Shaving scheme.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, boy.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't like the sound of that.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, boy. How do we do it? Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Yeah. That's what he was.

[Jay Skeets]

I think we gotta go Gonzaga if they're missing their leading score. It says he's sus, man. It says he's sus.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. That's bummer. Yeah. He's 20 points per game.

[Jay Skeets]

This changes, guys.

[Trey Kirby]

Good. He was money. He was apparently money. And. Yeah, man.

[Tas Melas]

Money.

[Trey Kirby]

Money. Likes money too much.

[Jay Skeets]

What?

[Tas Melas]

He's a surreal kid.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Hootie. Who?

[Jay Skeets]

Miami Hurricanes. Missouri.

[Trey Kirby]

Who do you. Who? All right. Who?

[Jay Skeets]

This is the Miami Hurricanes. The U versus Mizzou. Also a U. M, I.

[Trey Kirby]

Both MI.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, that's right. Tigers. No, Michael Porter Jr. For the Tigers this year. They got Mark Mitchell. Oh, man, I was loving. There was a guy on Texas last night whose last name was Mark. Mark.

[Trey Kirby]

Hi.

[Jay Skeets]

Made some big plays.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, it's back Mark, then.

[Jay Skeets]

You want back Mark?

[Trey Kirby]

I got no feel otherwise.

[Jay Skeets]

Mizzou's Mark Mitchell.

[Trey Kirby]

Acc. Should we cheer for the acc? That's our local. Local conference.

[Jay Skeets]

We're always talking about our favorite conference here.

[Trey Kirby]

I don't care. 7, 10. Sometimes these 7 10s are impossible, man. 8, 9, 7, 10.

[Tas Melas]

Right. The zoo.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Purdue. They just won the Big Ten championship. Beat Michigan. They're playing against Queens.

[Trey Kirby]

Put them through.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

They're crushing them. They're winning by 40.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. They got a. They got an assist, man. Braden Smith.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, I love a good assist, man.

[Jay Skeets]

How about that? 9.1.

[Trey Kirby]

Those are some numbers.

[Jay Skeets]

He is maybe like the Division 1 leader and assist or something like that.

[Trey Kirby]

I like it. I like it.

[Tas Melas]

34.4 minutes.

[Jay Skeets]

You gotta love that.

[Trey Kirby]

No injuries. Oh, we gotta clean.

[Jay Skeets]

Gotta love that. Okay, bottom right. The Midwest Region. The University of Michigan Wolverines versus Howard. They just qualified last night. Looks like a Buffalo or a Bison to me.

[Tas Melas]

It's another Bison. We got a second Bison in the tournament.

[Jay Skeets]

Bison, huh?

[Trey Kirby]

Michigan's going for.

[Jay Skeets]

They got a good defense here. I'll say. I've picked the. The Wolverines in my personal bracket. Yeah, they got a chance this year. They got big guys, they got old guys and they got draft prospects.

[Tas Melas]

Speaking of two Bisons, what does the Buffalo say to his kids when he's leaving for work?

[Trey Kirby]

Bye, son.

[Tas Melas]

Bye, sons. Two sons.

[Trey Kirby]

Nice. Damn.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. Bye, sons. Yeah. You got that Kawasaki? That's where that's from.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, really?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

That's why you.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, that's why?

[Tas Melas]

We were literally watching videos.

[Jay Skeets]

Monkey. No.

[Trey Kirby]

Cramp. Three bananas.

[Jay Skeets]

Georgia. The Bulldogs. St. Louis. The Billikens. I think.

[Tas Melas]

What?

[Trey Kirby]

What's a Billiken?

[Jay Skeets]

No one knows. What is that? What's that look like to you? That looks like a smiley troll.

[Trey Kirby]

That's cute.

[Jay Skeets]

That's a Billiken. But George is our local team.

[Trey Kirby]

I know.

[Jay Skeets]

We got a lot.

[Trey Kirby]

We didn't take tennis. I better take Georgia.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, the dogs. Man's gotta have a dog.

[Tas Melas]

Billiken is a mythical cartoonish good luck figure.

[Trey Kirby]

It's like a leprechaun. Almost got leprechaun vibes.

[Tas Melas]

Chubby figure. Okay. Yeah. Gotta go local.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Texas Tech. Red Raiders. Akron.

[Trey Kirby]

The Zips.

[Jay Skeets]

Look at that. Points per game. 88.3. The early dot.

[Trey Kirby]

Big injury, though, so we took High Point.

[Tas Melas]

J.T. toppin is.

[Jay Skeets]

J.T. toppIn is out.

[Tas Melas]

He's important.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, yeah, he is.

[Jay Skeets]

He's their leading scorer. Wow. 21 and 10. Actually, you can call it 22 and 11 if you like.

[Trey Kirby]

Rounding up, we take in another 12.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, the Zips, come on. Look at the way they put points on the board.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, it's like that point, man. We need those high variable zips.

[Jay Skeets]

Alabama or a high scoring team. 91.7 points per game. I think that's the highest we've seen so far. They're going against Hofstra. I don't know what that is.

[Trey Kirby]

Eagle, maybe.

[Jay Skeets]

Lebaron File on this guy's a high draft prospect as well.

[Trey Kirby]

Who?

[Jay Skeets]

Cruz Davis. Very cool name.

[Trey Kirby]

Cruise, man. Rad.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

40th anniversary Jones. Airing this Sunday. Guys. Get your tickets to that, you movie freaks.

[Jay Skeets]

It's back in theaters.

[Trey Kirby]

Hell, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Every year but 4K. That's how it works.

[Trey Kirby]

4K.

[Tas Melas]

Who are we riding with?

[Trey Kirby]

Crew. Joe's Not Cruise.

[Jay Skeets]

Not Cruz Davis.

[Trey Kirby]

Cruz Davis. Yeah, but I like Alabama.

[Jay Skeets]

The Bama Boys.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, they're good.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, they're kind of local.

[Trey Kirby]

Conference?

[Jay Skeets]

Sec? Sort of.

[Trey Kirby]

Tennessee.

[Jay Skeets]

Tennessee Volunteers versus potentially the Miami of Ohio. Oh, they might not be the Redhawks anymore. They're the Red Horses. Or maybe they're playing smu. That's probably what that says.

[Trey Kirby]

Yes.

[Jay Skeets]

Peter Suter.

[Trey Kirby]

So we would be. If we took them. We're hoping they win tonight to get in and then.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

They're 31 and 1.

[Jay Skeets]

31 and 1. Took that clutch loss in the Mac championship game.

[Trey Kirby]

That is apparently why they were in the first four. If they had won that, then they're in actual thing. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Wow. 90.7 points per game. They're a scoring.

[Trey Kirby]

We've talked about them a lot. It feels wrong to go against.

[Jay Skeets]

I agree.

[Trey Kirby]

If I'm just being honest.

[Tas Melas]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

And it's fun to pick a team that's not even officially. I do like that.

[Trey Kirby]

But then we. We get the other team anyway.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, exactly. We got two great chances.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

We get a team that's 32 and one going into the tournament or a team that's on a win streak of at least one game.

[Tas Melas]

That's right.

[Trey Kirby]

Good way to look at it. Good way to look at it. All right.

[Jay Skeets]

The Virginia Cavaliers. Wahoowa. The John Hollinger team versus Wright State. That's a. That's got to be a Husky.

[Trey Kirby]

Isn't Virginia also a John Schuman team?

[Jay Skeets]

He's Virginia Tech.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, he's Tech.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Okay, my bad.

[Tas Melas]

I always get confused with those two.

[Trey Kirby]

So Hollinger's Virginia.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes.

[Trey Kirby]

And Schuman.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, I love. I love the uva because I see it when I play my cornhole. On my cornhole. It's on the sleeve. It's on that plastic sleeve. So got to back it.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Why would we take. Right. Anyway.

[Trey Kirby]

No, yeah. That sounds wrong.

[Jay Skeets]

That sounds Michael Cooper. He's still playing the Kentucky Wildcats. Santa Clara.

[Trey Kirby]

Let me just say. Let me just say I saw a video. Steve Nash on speakerphone talking to the Broncos.

[Jay Skeets]

Talking.

[Trey Kirby]

Bronx boys. Way to get back. I'll be cheering for you.

[Jay Skeets]

Way to get back.

[Trey Kirby]

All time legend.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

But I don't think it's gonna help. You don't think this is the year? No, because I also love Kentucky. You guys know I love Kentucky guards. So I'm conflicted here. Steve Nash, Santa Clara, all these fantastic Canadian at that. Kentucky guards and sga and Jamal Murray and other guys.

[Tas Melas]

Kentucky.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Let's go, Kentucky.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. Big blue, Iowa State. That's a hurricane. Nope, that's a cyclone.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Imagine a hurricane in Iowa State.

[Trey Kirby]

Devastating Miami. Miami versus Iowa State.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Tennessee State. There's a state for every state,

[Tas Melas]

and

[Jay Skeets]

a lot of them have made it. Milan, Mom. Silovich, leading scorer for Iowa State. Anybody have a reason to pick Tennessee State?

[Tas Melas]

No.

[Jay Skeets]

No. Okay, great.

[Trey Kirby]

That's a big one. Okay, do you want to now go back to the east and then just fill out that top left?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

That bracket.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Okay, here we go.

[Jay Skeets]

Duke. TCU. Boozer frog.

[Trey Kirby]

Duke.

[Jay Skeets]

All right. St. John's versus Kansas. Patino versus Self.

[Trey Kirby]

Two of the first, you know, teams I think of when I think college basketball. I think St. John's and I think Kansas.

[Jay Skeets]

This is A. This is a blue board, blue bloods bracket, top left.

[Tas Melas]

But you thought. You thought Kansas should go through, right? Is that what you come. You thought Kansas should go through because of their lead guy?

[Jay Skeets]

We would love.

[Trey Kirby]

He wants to see a Peterson versus two potential. We do.

[Jay Skeets]

We want to see it.

[Trey Kirby]

Let's talk.

[Jay Skeets]

We want to see. See it. South Florida, the Bulls vs. The Spartans of Michigan State. Those dastardly Spartans. Tom Izzo.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Versus the other coach.

[Trey Kirby]

Izzo, man.

[Jay Skeets]

Wes Enis.

[Trey Kirby]

I. To the Izzo.

[Jay Skeets]

I like that name. Wes Enis versus Jeremiah Fier's brother, Jeremy.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, Jeremiah Fears. His brother is named Jeremy?

[Jay Skeets]

Yes. And obviously he's Jeremy Fears Jr. So dad is Jeremy as well, right? That's cool.

[Trey Kirby]

That's very cool.

[Tas Melas]

Put them through.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

There we go, boys. UCF versus Yukon. Winner takes home the UC name.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. I think this is our bracket where we, like, chalk. Chalk.

[Jay Skeets]

You think we're chalking hard here? All right. Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay. Let's keep it going. Duke or Kansas?

[Trey Kirby]

Duke.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, this guy's chalking hard.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

You're gonna say Yukon over Michigan State, aren't you?

[Trey Kirby]

I'm not.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, you're gonna say Michigan State.

[Trey Kirby]

I gotta know.

[Jay Skeets]

If you guys say Tom. Tom takes it.

[Trey Kirby]

You pick this one.

[Jay Skeets]

Check the dots. We're talking four dots to two dots.

[Trey Kirby]

Can't get closer, man.

[Jay Skeets]

Can't get closer.

[Tas Melas]

Well, yeah, I guess you could.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, you could. You can't.

[Tas Melas]

So, yeah, 52% of people are picking this team to get through.

[Jay Skeets]

Wow. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. That's cool.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, I guess they're a higher seed.

[Jay Skeets]

They are. They got Bonafides. They got Alex Caraban. They got another guy. Who's the other guy?

[Trey Kirby]

We just had St. Patrick's Day, though. And that's green. He's wearing green.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Do you think that's inspirational?

[Trey Kirby]

A little bit. Okay.

[Tas Melas]

I wouldn't call this. I mean, there's a little green.

[Jay Skeets]

Make a call, Taz. You want the Spartans or the Huskies?

[Tas Melas]

Gosh, I think I want the Huskies.

[Jay Skeets]

All right. All right, we'll do it. Who are we putting in the final four? Ooh, Duke or Yukon? Dukon.

[Announcer]

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[Trey Kirby]

Think of our buddy Doug Miller.

[Jay Skeets]

Before you answer, please think of him.

[Trey Kirby]

I need to know if Doug has a beard right now. That would determine it. I'm gonna text him. You move on.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, we'll come back. We'll come back to this one.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay. Doug has a beer. Duke through. If Doug doesn't have a beer, you come through.

[Jay Skeets]

Fair? Yes. Yeah, I think that's Perfect. What if he says goatee? Then we're in trouble.

[Tas Melas]

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[Trey Kirby]

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[Jay Skeets]

Here.

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[Jay Skeets]

With the times.

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[Jay Skeets]

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[Jay Skeets]

We'll move on to Florida versus Iowa.

[Tas Melas]

Florida versus Iowa?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Gators versus Haters.

[Tas Melas]

I got nothing to back Iowa.

[Jay Skeets]

Really? Nothing to back Iowa? Yeah, I guess nothing to back Iowa, Vanderbilt or Nebraska? It's so hard to get a feel on Vandy, isn't it?

[Tas Melas]

It is, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Nebraska never feels like a basketball team to me. I think Fred Hoiberg is their coach.

[Tas Melas]

Oh yeah?

[Jay Skeets]

I think so. Or is he at Iowa State? I don't know. I don't know.

[Trey Kirby]

Last text I sent to Doug Miller was October 20, 2023.

[Jay Skeets]

Was it about a beard?

[Tas Melas]

No, he's been clean faced for a while. I feel like.

[Trey Kirby]

Really?

[Tas Melas]

No.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, maybe.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I got.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, we're gonna find out. Hopefully.

[Jay Skeets]

Otherwise we can't.

[Trey Kirby]

Otherwise we'll call.

[Tas Melas]

All right. Vanderbilt, how are you built versus Nebraska?

[Jay Skeets]

Built versus Braska.

[Trey Kirby]

This just sounds like a lot of strong boys on both of these.

[Jay Skeets]

Corn fed.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jay Skeets]

Science wise, we're talking Vandy. Vandy's got the dots.

[Trey Kirby]

All right.

[Jay Skeets]

Tyler Tanner versus Price. Sanford. Henry. Henry Bert. That's the thing that's awesome about college is there's so many players that you get quite the variety.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, you do.

[Jay Skeets]

Vanderbilt, you're in. We don't know any, literally anything about you. VCU versus Illinois. Illini versus Rams. Maybe line I versus Rams. Vogler. Wagler versus Terrence.

[Trey Kirby]

Illinois.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, say no more. St. Mary's do we like them versus Houston? They got that great defense.

[Trey Kirby]

They got a great, great defense. Defense travels, man.

[Jay Skeets]

Defense travels. Houston has performed well in these tournaments,

[Trey Kirby]

but it's tough to travel right now. TSA lines are crazy south.

[Jay Skeets]

I wonder where this actually takes place.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Not local.

[Jay Skeets]

NCAA Tournament. South Regional. Look at this. Just sharing my Googles.

[Tas Melas]

Wow.

[Trey Kirby]

Very dangerous.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. You never know what's going to come up. Where does it take place? Indianapolis. Wait, that's the Final Four.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

How do I. How do I read?

[Trey Kirby]

How does Indianapolis always have the Final Four? I know they haven't, but it feels

[Jay Skeets]

like they always have.

[Trey Kirby]

You know what they always have. They're on a hell of a run. Indianapolis for having major events. They've had it all recently.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, they have, like, everything. Like, this isn't interesting to know. South Regional is played in Houston. The Sweet 16 in the elite Eight. Keep that in mind.

[Trey Kirby]

Take Houston.

[Jay Skeets]

Houston is in. Yeah. Keep that in mind. Florida versus Vanderbilt. It's gotta be Florida to me. There's no way. Vanderbilt.

[Tas Melas]

JD Nobody wanted Vanderbilt to get this far. Even.

[Trey Kirby]

No one did. No one felt good about it. Florida.

[Tas Melas]

See ya.

[Trey Kirby]

Chomp it up.

[Jay Skeets]

Chomp it up.

[Trey Kirby]

What do you do when you chomp? Do you go like this? Or do you go like this? Or do you clap?

[Jay Skeets]

I would have.

[Trey Kirby]

I'd be clapping because you're making noise. Yeah, but this is more of.

[Jay Skeets]

More like a jaw.

[Trey Kirby]

More of a jaw.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes. I like the slight overbite you got there because I don't like it when your fingers are touching. No, I don't like that. All right. The Illinois versus the Houstons. Take. Don't forget. Don't forget that this is taking place in Houston.

[Trey Kirby]

Wow. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

But are we chalking it again? Come on, boys. Chalking this hard.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, back to back chalks.

[Trey Kirby]

Back to back chalks. Feels weird. I think we go Illinois.

[Jay Skeets]

Avoid the chalk. Sure. Avoid the chalk. Want me to text my dad? See if he has a beard so we can choose between Florida and Illinois? He actually. He actually just texted me and said, no Internet access here. When. And who does Illinois play in the tournament?

[Trey Kirby]

So he doesn't even know.

[Jay Skeets]

He's locked in right now. He's on vacation. He's on vacation.

[Trey Kirby]

Where is he?

[Jay Skeets]

He's in Cozumel right now.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, damn.

[Jay Skeets]

Yes.

[Trey Kirby]

Living it up. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

You know, this man loves to cruise. Guy loves a cruise ship.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, they're on a. Oh, they're on a cruise.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, yeah. Nice.

[Trey Kirby]

Have you ever been on a cruise?

[Jay Skeets]

I have been on a cruise. One cruise in my life.

[Trey Kirby]

You did.

[Jay Skeets]

Right again. Someday.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, you guys. Especially with kids, right? Don't people love it for that?

[Jay Skeets]

By all accounts, the. Or at least by all commercials, it looks awesome for a kid.

[Tas Melas]

They can't get lost?

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, yeah, yeah, pretty much.

[Jay Skeets]

They can get lost, but more easily to find.

[Tas Melas]

You know where they are.

[Jay Skeets]

They're on the ships.

[Tas Melas]

They're constrained.

[Jay Skeets]

They're constrained. Arizona vs Utah State in the top, right? That's the West. Probably takes place in Arizona somehow.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I bet it does.

[Jay Skeets]

You like them? You like them? You like the Cats?

[Trey Kirby]

I do, I do. I think one seeds are going far. I mean, we have a lot going. Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

High point. High point team versus Arkansas also, I believe a high point team. This, this will be quite the match.

[Trey Kirby]

If you like buckets, this is the one for you.

[Jay Skeets]

Like buckets. This is it. A cuff Anderson, head to head.

[Trey Kirby]

I think I'm a Razorback guy.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

The Hogs always liked Corliss Williamson. That plugs.

[Jay Skeets]

I plugged 40 minutes of hell.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, High Point just reminded me that I plugged Lehigh to get through. But this was. I guess this was for the previous tournament, I suppose. Disappointing. Really disappointing.

[Jay Skeets]

Tough. Tough for CJ Column. Okay. Texas or Gonzaga? Texas. They're hot. One game win streak right now would be two heading into this game.

[Trey Kirby]

I like it. Sure. I think we got to have a, you know, a double digit seed going through.

[Jay Skeets]

Swain. Swain I think was their star or at least their high draft guy. At least according to the couple of articles that I've read. Missouri Tigers, Purdue Boilermakers. A Midwest showdown.

[Trey Kirby]

Similar colors, I feel like.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, Black and gold.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, definitely.

[Jay Skeets]

Definitely.

[Trey Kirby]

I don't know, man. I guess Purdue. I know it's not.

[Jay Skeets]

They got the big boys. Yeah, they got them big old boys. Okay. Arizona, Arkansas. That sounds like a fun matchup to me.

[Trey Kirby]

Fun game.

[Jay Skeets]

Quite the fun matchup. Braden buries, they're saying. Could be a high draft pick as well. That'd be a nice, nice one to see these two fellers going against each other. Dots wise. We're talking five dots for Arizona.

[Trey Kirby]

Wow. They got a good record against good teams.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, they're good. They're a good team.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

We're not doing it, man. We're not putting all.

[Trey Kirby]

We're not putting all number ones. I do it.

[Jay Skeets]

Texas or Purdue. Is this where the Cinderella run ends for great and Gordian?

[Trey Kirby]

It does.

[Jay Skeets]

Or is he dancing all night long?

[Trey Kirby]

He can go all night long.

[Jay Skeets]

And he's a good dancer.

[Trey Kirby]

I think he is a pretty good dancer.

[Jay Skeets]

Great.

[Trey Kirby]

And Gordian is. And I've literally partied with him all night long. His wedding for sure was one of those examples.

[Jay Skeets]

Fun wedding,

[Trey Kirby]

but I don't know. We got you. Go ahead. Texas or Purdue? You've been hot on Texas all bracket long.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. When are we going to take somebody that's not the chalks?

[Jay Skeets]

I mean right now. You're not wrong right now.

[Tas Melas]

Okay, Purdue.

[Trey Kirby]

Wow. This team is coming through the first four to make this miraculous run. Let's keep that in.

[Jay Skeets]

How can.

[Trey Kirby]

Wait, wait.

[Tas Melas]

No, apparently.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Tas Melas]

Because apparently they should be destiny. They should be seated way higher.

[Jay Skeets]

They're under seated. Everybody knows everybody.

[Tas Melas]

That's what the Internet says.

[Jay Skeets]

Michigan versus Georgia, big football matchup. But guess what? This is the NCAA tournament. They're playing each other.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Michigan goes through.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, I'm with you. Zips versus Tide. Both. Literally. Both of these could be laundry detergents. Obviously Tide is. But Zip could be a laundry detergent for sure.

[Tas Melas]

Agree. It could be. It could be.

[Jay Skeets]

Who gets your clothes cleaner?

[Trey Kirby]

JD Zips or Tide? I'm a Tideman, you're a Tide man. Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

Roll Tide. He says Roll Tide.

[Trey Kirby]

Roll Zip is like off brand.

[Tas Melas]

You know what I mean?

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Yes.

[Trey Kirby]

Or it sounds like you're. You're in Europe and you got to get some laundry detergent. You're like, what the hell is Zips? We'll use this. That might work. Yeah, exactly.

[Jay Skeets]

Our Miami of Ohio team versus John Hollinger's team, Virginia. Also, we don't know the vice.

[Trey Kirby]

We don't know if they're even going in.

[Jay Skeets]

We don't know, but they might be.

[Trey Kirby]

How has has a first four team ever made it to like the second weekend?

[Jay Skeets]

I think the answer is yes.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I think so too.

[Jay Skeets]

I think it recently happened. Yeah, I think everything has recently happened. Like a 16B to one finally, right?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Didn't. Was that Zach Edie? They lost.

[Jay Skeets]

It was Zach Edie. Great call. Great call.

[Trey Kirby]

Who they lose to?

[Jay Skeets]

Maybe like Florida Atlantic or whatever that was. Is that. What is that who they played?

[Trey Kirby]

Fdu.

[Jay Skeets]

Fdu.

[Trey Kirby]

Fdu. So I don't know what that stands for. Oh, oh, that's the Fairly. Fairly Dickinson.

[Jay Skeets]

Doug.

[Trey Kirby]

Three years, three years ago, maybe four years ago.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, I remember that.

[Tas Melas]

Sort of.

[Jay Skeets]

Apparently Virginia or play in team to be decided tonight.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, man.

[Trey Kirby]

I guess if I go Virginia.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, yeah, I gotta do it. How can you resist?

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, Kentucky versus Iowa State.

[Tas Melas]

Here is a good one.

[Jay Skeets]

I have a personal vendetta against Iowa State.

[Tas Melas]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

They broke my bracket sophomore year of college or sophomore year of high school when Jamal Tinsley was their star. I thought they were going to win the championship. And I think they were the first two seed delivers to a 15 seed. So I've hated them ever since.

[Trey Kirby]

Get them out of here.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, that's what I say.

[Tas Melas]

And they've won twice in the last decade.

[Jay Skeets]

Huh?

[Tas Melas]

They've won twice in the last decade.

[Trey Kirby]

Who did?

[Tas Melas]

Iowa State.

[Jay Skeets]

You mean like tournament games?

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay, Tournament tournaments. Oh, so there are no meltdowners?

[Trey Kirby]

What are you talking about?

[Jay Skeets]

No, just like any tournament game.

[Tas Melas]

No, they won the last 10 titles, didn't they? I mean, two of the last 10 titles.

[Trey Kirby]

No.

[Jay Skeets]

Iowa State women.

[Tas Melas]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Jay Skeets]

They've never won a title, I would imagine, huh? Yukon one two of the last three titles.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[Jay Skeets]

Michigan versus Alabama. Another big football matchup. That's a good football bracket, at least in the top half of the bottom, right? You guys tell me. Look, I'm pulling for Michigan no matter what. No matter what.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I am, too. I like Michigan. You know, we're, like, from Canada, man. It's right there.

[Jay Skeets]

It's right there. Virginia or Kentucky, Dog versus. Or no, sorry. Cat versus horse. This is a cat versus horse matchup.

[Trey Kirby]

Anti horse.

[Jay Skeets]

So everybody's anti horse, man.

[Trey Kirby]

This.

[Jay Skeets]

The Blue Bloods going through.

[Trey Kirby]

Going through. Crazy. Crazy.

[Jay Skeets]

Let's pick our Final Four here.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, I got no word from Doug Miller.

[Jay Skeets]

No word from Doug. We'll do his last. We'll give him a chance. Every chance we possibly can get.

[Trey Kirby]

I'm calling him. I'm calling. I'm calling him. Okay. Let's see if he picks up.

[Jay Skeets]

This is exciting.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Here we go.

[Jay Skeets]

It's been three years, Doug. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Let's say he is a busy man.

[Tas Melas]

He is.

[Jay Skeets]

That's. It's lunchtime. What's up, buddy?

[Trey Kirby]

What's up, Doug?

[Jay Skeets]

How you doing, man?

[Trey Kirby]

Good. I got you on speakerphone. We're on no dunks right now. We're filling out our March Madness bracket. And all I need to know, Doug, is whether or not you have a beard right now.

[Jay Skeets]

Now. I do not,

[Trey Kirby]

Doug.

[Jay Skeets]

Interesting.

[Trey Kirby]

What happened?

[Jay Skeets]

It's getting warm out. Want to. Want to look clean, feel good.

[Trey Kirby]

That's it.

[Jay Skeets]

Too itchy, man. It's too much to take care of.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, that's fair enough. But we did say before we called you and got in contact with you that if. That. If you did not have a beard, we were not putting Duke through to the Final Four. How do you feel about that?

[Jay Skeets]

I don't feel good.

[Trey Kirby]

I'm losing to that Yukon.

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, that would be so devastating.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, you got a couple weeks here to grow a beard then, man.

[Jay Skeets]

I grow a beard, we should Be okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Yep. Yep.

[Jay Skeets]

All right.

[Trey Kirby]

That sounds good.

[Jay Skeets]

I can do that. That's a small sacrifice to me.

[Trey Kirby]

There you go. Okay, well, we'll take that under consideration. I'll let you go, buddy. We'll talk soon.

[Jay Skeets]

All right. Thanks, man.

[Trey Kirby]

All right.

[Jay Skeets]

Later.

[Trey Kirby]

What a guy. Fantastic.

[Jay Skeets]

That was great.

[Trey Kirby]

So what are we doing?

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, Yukon's got to go through.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. You know, I did say that. I only want to. I only want to flip it on his head because he did pick up, which is, you know, gotta.

[Jay Skeets]

You gotta love that.

[Trey Kirby]

But we said it. If he didn't have a beard, then they were not going through.

[Tas Melas]

Okay, you said it.

[Trey Kirby]

You said it.

[Tas Melas]

Man of your beard. Word.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Florida, Illinois, defending champs, versus another team. Who is good? Blue versus orange. This is an all blue versus orange matchup.

[Tas Melas]

This is closer to your home. I imagine Florida would be the team that we all take. You know, they're just.

[Trey Kirby]

I feel like I haven't heard a thing about them this year, but they're obviously good.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, they. They got their. One of their big guys back. Thomas. Ha.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

I don't know if it's. Maybe it is.

[Trey Kirby]

I got no clue on this one. No feel on this game. I. I cheer Phil Illinois, basically because of you and your family and Will Leach.

[Tas Melas]

I. I would take Florida, but if there's a reason to take Illinois, have it.

[Jay Skeets]

Florida it is.

[Trey Kirby]

Florida. First ones.

[Jay Skeets]

That's fine.

[Trey Kirby]

First one.

[Jay Skeets]

Arizona versus Texas. We're riding the horns, man.

[Trey Kirby]

We got Texas.

[Jay Skeets]

We were just there.

[Tas Melas]

So close. Feels like it's like we're there right now.

[Jay Skeets]

Feels like we're there right now. Sort of does.

[Trey Kirby]

I don't know.

[Jay Skeets]

Wildcats vs. Steed. The Longhorn cattle. Are you more of a cow fan or a cat fan? When you are naming animals with your daughters and we're doing ABCs, are you saying cat or are you saying cow?

[Tas Melas]

Cats for sure.

[Jay Skeets]

So true. Jeez. Arizona, first Michigan. Kentucky. This would be our third one seed going to the final four. Maybe that's the way to go. But I. I'm not. I'm not. I'm gonna. Wow, remove myself because like I said, I'm gonna pick Michigan regardless of if they win. Great for me. If they lose, I won't be disappointing my friends.

[Trey Kirby]

Jd do you have a feel on the Wolverines? You do like Wolverine the. I love. Over in the. The actual comic book hero and Kentucky Wildcats. Big blue. Is there a big blue comic book guy?

[Tas Melas]

Dr. Manhattan from Dr. Manhattan.

[Trey Kirby]

He'd be big blue. What about the. What about Kelsey Grammer? Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Also an X Men.

[Trey Kirby]

He's sort of big. Blue.

[Jay Skeets]

Blue beetle.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

So you're a Wolverine guy.

[Tas Melas]

I'm a Wolverine guy.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

I think we take them. We don't have all four ones. Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Because of Doug's. All because of Doug.

[Jay Skeets]

Shaving his beard. He's right. It was pretty warm out. I bet he's wishing he had one right now. Got colder last year. Cost his team a Final Four birth. Tough. Yukon. Florida. Two teams that have won championships. These are the last two NCAA champions

[Trey Kirby]

right here, I think. Yukon.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Riding high off that victory.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah. Smooth face. The smooth face. Huskies. Arizona, Michigan. Our final Final Four.

[Trey Kirby]

You pick this one? You pick this one.

[Jay Skeets]

Well, I'm picking Michigan then.

[Trey Kirby]

Done.

[Jay Skeets]

Yeah, I'm doing Michigan.

[Trey Kirby]

Look at this.

[Jay Skeets]

What is this, the 90s? What is this, the 90s? RIP Hamilton versus Juwan Howard.

[Trey Kirby]

Sure. There's a big nostalgia kick right now. Championship game. We go in Michigan. Are we just backing them?

[Tas Melas]

Franz Wagner.

[Jay Skeets]

Franz.

[Tas Melas]

I leave. I believe in France.

[Jay Skeets]

Jet Howard.

[Tas Melas]

Jet.

[Jay Skeets]

But I mean, better talking. Donovan, clinging. And Stefan Castle. These are all guys that don't play for the team they have in the past.

[Trey Kirby]

They'll be there. They could be there.

[Jay Skeets]

They should be there.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

I mean, they might have games.

[Trey Kirby]

They might have games. That's true. That's true.

[Jay Skeets]

Are there not games on that Monday night? There's got to be some games.

[Trey Kirby]

No, they have. They take the Monday night off.

[Jay Skeets]

Maybe they'll be there.

[Trey Kirby]

Wait, there's no games. Usually. Because we sometimes take it off even here. Or we have before.

[Jay Skeets]

Yep, that's true.

[Trey Kirby]

Come on, man. This is. Look it. It says Trey Kirby right there.

[Jay Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Should it not have a big old yellow M beside it?

[Jay Skeets]

Fine.

[Trey Kirby]

And guess who was our last guest? If we don't count Doug Miller on the podcast, who was our last? Ben Golliver.

[Jay Skeets]

Ben Gulliver.

[Trey Kirby]

Who cheers for Michigan?

[Jay Skeets]

He does. He loves the jump man as well.

[Trey Kirby]

That's all we need sometimes. That's what.

[Tas Melas]

That's a great pick.

[Jay Skeets]

Sure. Sure. I'm happy.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Jay Skeets]

Give me a combined final score.

[Trey Kirby]

163.

[Bethenny Frankel]

All right.

[Trey Kirby]

Is that high?

[Jay Skeets]

77. 78 points per game. 87 points per game. That's what I guess.

[Trey Kirby]

I went low.

[Jay Skeets]

165.

[Tas Melas]

Go with 163. Sure.

[Trey Kirby]

163. You know, they get a little tight in the game. Big game. Crazy sight lines in the Lucas Oil Stadium. So vast.

[Jay Skeets]

Exciting.

[Tas Melas]

Congrats.

[Jay Skeets]

That's our champion pick, the Wolverines, doing

[Trey Kirby]

it for Ben Lyons. Ben Gulliver. If your name's Ben. You're cheering for the Michigan.

[Jay Skeets]

That's right.

[Trey Kirby]

Marines. We got family friends that are there also cheering for Michigan. Yeah, this is good. This is good. Okay, great. We did it. It took a while but we got there.

[Jay Skeets]

There's a lot of games to pick.

[Trey Kirby]

How many?

[Jay Skeets]

We made 63 picks.

[Trey Kirby]

Holy crap,

[Jay Skeets]

my fingers hurt.

[Trey Kirby]

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[Tas Melas]

Signed it.

[Trey Kirby]

Verbal agreement.

[Tas Melas]

Verbal.

[Trey Kirby]

Verbal.

[Jay Skeets]

Hasn't signed.

[Tas Melas]

Hasn't signed.

[Trey Kirby]

But between the players association and then the wnba, looks like we're going to have a season after all. That's good. I mean obviously they're riding a high right now. I think the season starts like 50 days or. Yeah, something like a 51 days. Something makes sense.

[Jay Skeets]

So Yukon 34. Zero right now in the. In the women's.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jay Skeets]

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[Trey Kirby]

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[Jay Skeets]

That's right.

[Trey Kirby]

Did we have them winning or losing? I can't remember. Maybe we won one game. I can't remember. Anyway, Josh Hart got it season high, 33 points. Knicks crushed the Pacers. He shot 12:13 from the field, hit all five of his three pointers, seven boards, five assists, two steals in limited time under 30 minutes. What a game. I saw something like the stat line he put up no one has ever done in terms of like the stats and then shooting 90% plus from the field. Or maybe nobody in Nick's history. Maybe it was that. Anyway, pretty impressive. Impressive stuff. Way to go, Josh. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Apparently Villanova can get bounced. That's what I'm reading.

[Trey Kirby]

Is that. Was that a 512?

[Jay Skeets]

I think they're. They're an eight oh eight, Utah State.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay. We picked. Okay. Wow.

[Tas Melas]

Good. Good.

[Trey Kirby]

I love Villanova. I usually cheer for them. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right. Pick them tonight. Tass, you got a victory last night. Trey and I took an L because we did have Miami and we thought it might be a close game turning into a 30 point victory for you and the Hornets. So you're 8 and 4, Trey. 7 and 5. I'm 4 and 8.

[Tas Melas]

Rematch of Monday night's game. Lakers in Houston just one more time. Houston favored by two and a half. They obviously lost on Monday. So Skeets and I think that they will redeem that and win tonight. Win by three or more. They're going to cover Trey. You think the Lakers can do it again?

[Jay Skeets]

I do. This is a monster game. One and a half. Sorry. One and a half games separate the Lakers and the Rockets for third in the west. And the winner of this one gets the tie break between the two teams. So while I agree tough to beat the same team twice in a row, I think the Lakers need it just

[Trey Kirby]

as bad as the Rockets.

[Jay Skeets]

Incentive for sure.

[Tas Melas]

All right. All right.

[Trey Kirby]

Big game. Big game. Obviously the. The two other first four games are going on, but NBA action all week long here as they continue to put the games on. So that's a. That's a good one. I'm sure we'll be talking about that again. Let's see if the Lakers or how early they go to the doubling KD again.

[Jay Skeets]

Yep.

[Trey Kirby]

How he handles it and he had talked about it. Maybe I should be off ball. Sort of like letting them more room to operate here. And I'll be a shooter on side. So we'll see how they do it, see how they approach it. All right. Lots of fun. I hope you guys enjoyed us filling out our March Madness bracket. Fill out your own. That link is in the show notes now. So get into our CBS sort of pool there, the no dunk pool, and fill out a bracket. And good luck to you as we'll follow that for the next couple weeks. Otherwise, we'll see you guys tomorrow here, which is Thursday, if I have that correct. Is it. It's been a weird week. I don't know why. It doesn't feel like Wednesday to me.

[Jay Skeets]

Basketball on all day starting tomorrow.

[Trey Kirby]

Some people, I mean, they treat it as a national holiday, don't they?

[Jay Skeets]

Oh, yeah. I used to take a day off work. I used to take a Friday off work. The second date Laura and I ever went on was going to watch NCAA tournament games together. Wow. Was during the Joachim, Noah, Greg, Odin year.

[Trey Kirby]

What's the weather supposed to be like tomorrow here in Atlanta? I asked that because you guys ever been to Breaker Breaker? You've been in Breaker Break. I don't believe it's on the belt line. It's good fun little spot on the belt line, but they have, like, an upstairs that you can go up and they have TVs up there. But it's one of these spaces. Like you're sort of outside, but you're inside.

[Jay Skeets]

You know what I mean?

[Trey Kirby]

It's like a little wonderful. That'd be nice to watch games, I'm saying, right? The weather's.

[Tas Melas]

It's fresh and you get to watch a game.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, we'll go to Breaker Breaker. I don't know what the weather. That's cold right now. So tomorrow's nice. Okay, good, good, good, good. We'll see you guys tomorrow morning. Until then, Clipper Bros, you heard it here first.

[Jay Skeets]

Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome.

[Tas Melas]

Thanks for joining us. And remember, marches true madness sports everywhere. So many sports, including Venezuela beating the USA in the World Baseball Classic. Congrats to them.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Close game.

[Tas Melas]

Three, two.

[Trey Kirby]

Entertaining. It was wild. Sorry, I know we're supposed to go, but I was watching a little bit of it. I guess I didn't realize, like, the teams have so much say on, like, the pitchers. Like, they were, like, saying at the start of the game, like all these Venezuelan pitchers, they're like, all right. The Rangers say he can pitch one inning. This team says only in a save situation can he come in. Like, all these, like, stipulations to protect their arm.

[Jay Skeets]

Interesting.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, but they got it done. They won. They won.

[Tas Melas]

They were down.

[Trey Kirby]

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[Tas Melas]

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