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J. Skeets
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J. Skeets
Good morning sweet world, and welcome to the no Dunks podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Thursday, May 21, 2026. I'm J. Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside me, as always, Tas Melis.
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Tas Melis
Podcast listeners, this is for you.
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J. Skeets
Next to him, it's my top shot, hot boy Trey Kirby, AF ao and over yonder, making the magic happen all day long today in the Classic Factory, super producer JD Hello. There he is. Here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Good morning. Hit the like button. Subscribe if you haven't done that. Podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. On today's pod, we got the all rookie teams. We'll share our thoughts on those, maybe any snubs. And we're going to do a little fantasy booking when it comes to LeBron's next and final maybe NBA team. We had a fun question that didn't make beach stepping yesterday, but we're turning it into a fun little segment later. But first, the Western Conference finals are knotted up. Shay Gildis Alexander bounced back from a subpar series opener to score 30 points. Caruso added 17 off the bench as OKC beat the Spurs 122, 113 in game two. The Thunder finished with a 57 to 25 edge in bench scoring and a big advantage in points off turnovers. So they bounce back task. Where do you want to start with game two? A lot of angles we could go here.
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Tas Melis
We'll start with Shea, I thought was just a little quicker into his moves in the mid range, getting to the baseline where he got some space. Also helped by his big guy, Isaiah Hartenstein, who I was wrong. I thought he could only play against Luke Cornett, but he was doing a great job against Wemby, especially grabbing Wemby's arms and and being that off ball screen in the middle of the lane for Shay to get a little bit of space, literally throwing those arms behind him to get quicker. I thought Mark Dagna taking Shea off the bench earlier or excuse me, taking him off the floor earlier in the first quarter. I was questioning that. Him, Jalen Williams, Chet Holmgren go to the bench midway through the first so he could get a little bit of production from his bench. I thought it was really about AJ Mitchell. That lineup midway through the first was AJ Mitchell, Jared McCain, Lou Dort, Alex Caruso and Big J Will. That's who you're running out there for multiple minutes to get A.J. mitchell going, which I think really, really helped him. He had a shot over Wemby. He had A shot in each quarter. He a shot with two minutes left in the fourth quarter to get them up 10 points. I thought that could be it. Spurs came back a little bit, but either way the point was get that. That development that the. The production from the bench. While Shay got all the way there to the fourth quarter, he took eight shots in the fourth quarter with Har getting five offensive boards in the fourth quarter to get extra possessions for his team. So he was really, really big. I'm sure the San Antonio spurs are sending lots of tape to the NBA saying, hey, this guy is grabbing our guy. I wonder, next game, do you think Victor Wembanyaba will be trying to sell those calls more? Because to get those calls, I think you kind of have to give a. He grabbed me to try and sell it because that was happening a lot. Great production by NBC to show those replays of an arm grab here, an arm grab here, an arm grab there,
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J. Skeets
and then he threw in a hair. Hair grab on Castle.
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Tas Melis
Yeah, yeah. Big question.
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J. Skeets
Wasn't Wemby.
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Tas Melis
But yeah, I, I wonder in game three, are we going to see Victor go to the floor just to try and sell it? Which is a, a risk because that's
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J. Skeets
sort of tough to do on the type of grabs that, you know, Hartenstein is doing though, because it is a lot of like in the trenches and grabbing an arm here, grabbing a sort of a midsection here. It's like what's. What are you going to do? Pretend like you just got shot and fall over? I don't know. I don't.
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Trey Kirby
He's on the floor a lot already.
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Tas Melis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you want to sell and get the call. I think you kind of have to. Is so discreet. You don't really see it a lot as a referee, but it's risky. Then you're going to be out of place. So I wonder if that happens. But Hartenstein again coming back and doing that and having his push shots and five offensive boards in the fourth quarter. Eight offensive boards overall was great as we saw just a full on OKC team. Finally, finally we got them. You know, as. As a full, full source that they were like last year.
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Trey Kirby
No, I mean they went no to start the playoffs. They looked pretty good.
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Tas Melis
Yeah, I'm not saying they looked bad. I'm just.
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Trey Kirby
They down game and got back into their flow. Shea, 30 points, nine assists, one turnover, 50% from the field, didn't miss a free throw. He just felt more comfortable. He said post game, yeah, I sucked. I just suck. After long layoffs. I Guess I got to get better at doing something during the break. The bench was great. 50 to 7 to 25 advantage for the Thunder. 12 three pointers off the bench is pretty impressive. You look at what the spurs have done. Kelton Johnson had 10 last night. He had 13 in Game 1. Other than that, 18 total points from the bench in this series. And they're just losing guys. But the story is Hartenstein. It was the Wemby rules out there last night. Like, you're saying, he was grabbing and holding on every possession, but if you're the Thunder, you're saying that's exactly what they do to Shea when he's off the ball as well. Hold on to him, grab him, make it tough. But it was tough on Wemby. It wears him down. There were just no easy catches in scoring positions for this guy. He caught the ball at the elbow maybe once. He had one post up that worked in game one. He had 26 points in the paint in game two, just 10. Nine offensive rebounds went down to five in this game. And three of those came on his own shots as well. Basically, 14 shooting possessions for Wemby in game two, and seven of those were three pointers. They're going to have to find a way to get him the ball in advantageous positions. And I think it'll be like down screens for him, get him a cleared outside where he can attack against Hartenstein. Because when it's like one on one going at him, all of the Thunder guards are just waiting to strip it down low and to make it tough on him. So I was impressed with Hartenstein. He went from looking unplayable in game one to game ball in game two. And it's pretty funny just to watch him have to figure out how to gauge his floater, because he couldn't figure it out in Game 1 because he had to shoot it so high. But in this one, apparently he had been practicing shooting it higher than the backboard, because that's the key. And all the Thunder were like that, Right. Like Shea put a little extra loft on his mid Rangers. AJ Mitchell did the same. And then Hartenstein was kind of the man I thought for San Anton or for the Thunder last night. Great performance. And now it's on the spurs to figure out how do we deal with them finding something that actually works.
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J. Skeets
Yeah. If the only thing Hartenstein had done in game two was hold, push, shove, wrestle, sort of keep Wemby in check, so to speak, or obviously make it difficult and tire him out, if that was the only thing he had done pretty good performance because we thought, this guy's not even going to play. That's what we were thinking after game one. But then adding huge screens, like you said, Tass, all these extra possessions with the offensive rebounding. And then he's hitting shots too, like the guy was 10 points, 13 rebounds and three assists. Like he's actually a decent sort of playmaker for his size, too. It's like he's not just going to chuck it away. So, I mean, that's an incredible, incredible performance. I can't wait to see what Mitch Johnson and the spurs do to counter it. Now, unfortunately, they might be down, guys. I mean, we can get into this. Like this part sucks of this series or this game at least with Dylan Harper leaving the game with a hamstring injury, obviously J Dub leaving for OKC as well. AJ Mitchell at the end, sort of tweak something. Wemby had a sore wrist. We already know dear. And Fox, in two games, like we're two games into this thing.
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Tas Melis
And.
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J. Skeets
And the spurs especially, yes. You know, dropping two of their lead guards here and. And a big part of why Castle is asked to do so much more and maybe why he has another nine turnovers.
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Tas Melis
Yeah, the scary thing coming into the series, I thought was the advantage for the Thunder going extremely deep. Now the worrisome is for the spurs here, whether or not Fox and Harper are going to be able to play one or the other. So with The Thunder, because A.J. mitchell had a better Game 2 than Game 1, going from four points in Game 1 to 10 points in Game 2, it seems like they can overcome Jalen Williams. It was the big question coming into the playoffs with Jalen Williams hamstring Harpering. And we wondered, Harper, that was sort of a pun, but not really. We wondered, can they win without Jalen Williams? And we thought, no, not. Not really. But now with development of AJ Mitchell in a. Into his fantastic playoffs, with Jared McCain playing really well, I thought Casen Wallace was so good in this game, splashing four threes. They can overcome that. The spurs, can they overcome one of those guys? I. I suppose, but this is scary. I mean, that's really scary. Just period. Just even losing one of those two guys.
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J. Skeets
Well, I mean, heading into the series, I was one of the people saying, I don't think they can beat the spurs without a healthy J Dub. I sort of stand by that. But now you're telling me that maybe Fox and Dylan Harper aren't playing. Okay, that changes the equation. The fairness of a matchup here In a series. So, yeah. Could they win without J Dub if those two guys are limited or not playing? Absolutely. Because I think it's more of a significant drop off for the spurs having two of their best guards gone here.
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Trey Kirby
Yeah, easily. I mean, missing Harper and Fox is way worse than missing Jalen WILLIAMS Because Jordan McLaughlin comes in and he shot the ball fine last night. Two for three. Cool. But it's Jordan McLaughlin and he was giving it back on the defensive end as well. Harrison Barnes is another guy that got some more time. These are guys that are at the end of their career. Meanwhile, the Thunder, if they want, they can try Aaron Wiggins. Like, he hasn't been very good in the playoffs, but I've seen that guy have a 40 point game. There's nothing like that on the bench for San Antonio. So Fox needs to come back. I guess it's maybe encouraging that like Harper was trying to get back on the court. He walked back off. The trainers are like, nah, man, you can't play. Go sit back down. So that's tough. They just don't have enough guys if they are missing two of their lead guards. Because you can see it's. I don't know if it's wearing on Castle. Like, to me, he's not getting tired, but he's turning the ball over way too much. 20 turnovers through two games. That's the most ever in consecutive playoff games. He had nine in game two last night in Oklahoma City had ten total. Some of these are bonehead passes where he's just like lobbing it across the lane or throwing a bullet pass with no touch on it. I thought even passes he's completing like this was a five point game. He drives baseline. Great screen by Wemby. Gets Devin Vassell a wide open three in the corner. But Castle throws it almost two feet off target. Vassell has to reach over, he chucks it up, bricks it off the top corner of the backboard. It gets its way back to Castle and he throws a pass to nobody. So he's been a little scattershot. And I think it's just because the style of play that he like, he likes to be strong, play in traffic. That's a problem against the Thunder team and just the responsibility that he has to have to create the majority of the shots out there. It's asking a little too much from him against the team like okc, the guy.
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Tas Melis
One of those guys. One of those guys has to come back. Just whether it's Fox. Yeah, it has to be Fox.
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Trey Kirby
It's gotta be Fox. You gotta tough it out.
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Tas Melis
And there was a feel that he was coming back even for game two. This is a feeling anyway.
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J. Skeets
Yeah. And maybe he didn't come back for game two because they won game one.
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Tas Melis
Yeah, maybe.
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J. Skeets
We saw that with OG in the last series, you know, or at least we. We thought that was the case. So, yeah, I'm with you that they look and if they come back, don't they Castles just needs to be sharper and more secure with the ball. I mean, whether those guys are playing or not. It is funny. The guy has 20 turnovers through two games. He's been awesome. He has been really good. Now he's hurt them here with these turnovers, but like, you know, they probably don't win game one without the way he's playing and his defense alone at least making it difficult on sga. So like, I think the kid has been lights out. He's been so damn good. It's just you gotta reduce those. Like that one brutal turnover, like a minute left in the game. Like it's a five point game. He threw it. He just threw it to nobody.
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Trey Kirby
He threw it to nobody. Yeah, he did two terrible passes on the same possession when they needed a score and we're like rallying and if they score on that possession, we're talking about a one possession game and he missed on both passes.
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Tas Melis
It's a little like Westbrook for me. You kind of can't slow him down because of his motor and how good he is offensively, how he's scoring, how he's grabbing offensive rebounds. This little guy grabbing offensive rebounds. 10 of 17, 25 points. 1 of my initial notes, watching this guy hit that, bumping off, getting bumped off his spot and just throwing it while sort of falling to his left and banking it home. I mean, what kind of shot is that? It's sort of, you know, Shea esque, where he would flop and sell it. I do love how there's not been a lot of flops in this series, but Stefan Castle is just a guy who. I don't know if you can take that out of him. The, the. Hey, you're playing extremely hard. Keep doing it. Keep using your body, which he's doing really, really well. But yeah, just don't turn it over, dude.
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J. Skeets
Castle is basically a mixture of Westbrook, Ja Morant with the hops and Jimmy Butler with his relentlessness of attacking and then defensively too. So, I mean, look, those are three elite players. He's got pieces of all of them, but he has to for them to win the series again, whether Fox or Harper, player or not. Like they can't be. These are a lot of turnovers. It's just. Just way too many.
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Trey Kirby
Even he had almost as much as the entire Thunder. Yeah, that's too many.
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Tas Melis
It's too many.
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Trey Kirby
No other way to say it.
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Tas Melis
There's. Yeah, for sure. And when Wemby's open pass to him, he didn't pass him. The one in that second quarter that eventually turned into a turnover when that beautiful roll, he's. He's there. He was there. He could have passed it to him. So yeah, the passing just has to get better.
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J. Skeets
Good fight from the spurs though. In this game. There was many times, at least, I'll speak for myself where I thought, well, this one's going to turn out into a route here. Thunder sort of unlocks something. They feel good. SGA is comfortable. But the spurs started second half of that 15 to 4 run and then they started trading threes like crazy and they were always sticking around. And even like you said, Trey, I mean it could have been a one possession game if they score on that one in the final minute. So they were there. They were there despite obviously some guys leaving the lineup here. So good fight from them and I can't wait to see what they do back in San Antonio. Not as entertaining as game one by any means, but still high level basketball here and how the coaches are changing things and lineups and stuff like that.
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Trey Kirby
Yeah, if Castle puts it on the money to Visell in the corner. I think the shots going in. Vasal had made some shots early in the fourth quarter and he seems to be the better wing for the spurs right now. I think Champagne is in his head. He's really hesitating right now. He's what, maybe four for 18, three point shooting so far. One for seven last night. He's hesitating when he catches the ball. That's a guy that they need to shoot it instantly. But Vasal I thought was pretty good. So yeah, that was a missed opportunity because it leads to the Castle turnover on the bad pass. Shay comes back down, hits the midi. That was the game, right?
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J. Skeets
Who else played well in this one for you? I mean we went through like we sort of glossed over. I said it at the start, but Caruso did. Caruso like things again. Although Reggie Miller now calling him Captain
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Tas Melis
Chaos better than Agent Chaos, Mr. Chaos, Mr. Icon now, now I think it's Agent now. I'm blending them all together. Yeah, just a quick slip in of Captain Chaos.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, that was the only time, I think.
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Tas Melis
Yeah, I think so too.
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J. Skeets
Yes, but nice to see you. Went to military school. Climbed the ranks there.
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Tas Melis
I mean, Caruso put a behind the back dribble and hit a shot over Wemby.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, he's feeling good.
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Trey Kirby
He's hooping.
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J. Skeets
He is for sure, but he was good. And Casen Wallace, I thought was phenomenal as well.
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Tas Melis
So good for.
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J. Skeets
For the Thunder in hitting threes. That's all he did. I mean, he does. He is wise. He's like, Wemby's around here. I'm not even pretending to shoot when this guy's in the lanes. Doesn't even look at it. He'll just like dribble right back out. But four or six from deep, some big ones and a great defense, too. And he had that one that he did cause a Castle turnover. He just picked him up right around the half court mark and got the backcourt violation because he just used the line there as sort of a second defender to trap him. So I thought he was great in this.
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Tas Melis
He's four threes, four assists, four steals. But also that turnover that he caused there, he caused a loose ball foul. And you could up those steals. I think, you know, he's gonna. He's gonna get close to a five by five guy one day. I don't know if he can block enough shots, but either way, yeah, he was great. Caruso, great. The Hardenstein was important in this game. The continuous. The continuous fight in the fourth quarter when the spurs were making their run. He's grabbing offensive rebounds. It was, it was a little. A little worrisome that the spurs could, could beat them at that point. But he was important because Chet was fine. Yeah, he was just fine. Yeah, just fine.
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Trey Kirby
He's just out there.
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J. Skeets
I. I can't.
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Trey Kirby
He's too slow right now. Like, it takes him forever to get his jumper off. He's usually guarded by Wings, so they're able to close out on him. And then when he starts dribbling the ball, he has no advantages because he's. He's not much stronger than a Vassell or a Champagne. They're definitely quicker than him and they're going to be able to strip the ball down low. So he's just got to speed up a little bit while still, like, maintaining his cool and calm demeanor. So the only time he scores, it feels like, is when Cornet's on the court. So I don't know, maybe flip it. We thought it was Hartenstein to play against Cornette maybe let Chet play.
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J. Skeets
Well, the other part of Chet too, I'm getting tired of seeing. I'm sure Thunder fans are. Is like, how many times in this series alone where he's like, he's on defense, he can't grab a rebound. I get it. He's as skinny as I am. But like, it's like Keldon Johnson or other spurs guys, not even Wemby. I'm talking about here, where it's like they get like two or three chances. They just put him under the rim. It's like he's got to show a little more force there. I think he just drops his head. It's happened like three or four times in this series alone where he should be at least tipping it out, grabbing it something, and they just get. He just keeps getting put right under the rim. So, yeah, I. I didn't think he had a good game at all.
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Tas Melis
No, no, no, no. And Dagnot literally took him off the floor just 2 minutes, 40 seconds into the third quarter. I mean, that was a pretty quick yank. Now they brought him back, but the spurs pushed and made a. A run. Chet went to the bench, up 8. And then the spurs made their run with the Wemby put back dunk. Great cut by the NBC production crew to shoot Chet and Isaiah Hartenstein, who are both on the bench at that point. Like, hey, are we bringing out a big guy here? I mean, they're going small with their big Jalen Williams, but they brought back Homegren and they were able to slice up the zone that the spurs went to on consecutive plays there. So, yeah, he hasn't been spectacular. Literally played fewer seconds. Was pretty close to Hartenstein in this game, which was. Which was surprising. But they are just touching, poking those right buttons. I mean, to get so much production from their bench. It's a great day.
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J. Skeets
A lot of points off the bench. No doubt. 57. Yeah, the crazy put back dunk there by Wemby off his own miss. Jake Fisher has coined the term Wembound. Okay. He says that's what he's calling it and he's running with it. How do you feel about that when bound? Yeah, it's one of those. That looks better than when you. Than when you say it. It looks okay when I look at it. Yeah, it looks cool. Wembound. And then I say it out loud and it's like, okay.
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Tas Melis
But yeah, I did read it this morning and I said it's all right. Then when you said it, I know
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J. Skeets
it doesn't sound as good.
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Trey Kirby
Good to read.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, exactly. But that gets what he's running with here. The idea like WY is going to be the guy that can do it the most. But you could see Giannis doing something like that, I think was his point a wembound.
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Trey Kirby
He did it three times last night, missed a layup and tipped it back on his own. And then he tried it a fourth time late in the game. Just tried to get it on the glass and rebound as well. But Hartenstein finally got to that one. But the tip dunk one was awesome. That was crazy.
- [21:52]
J. Skeets
Well, that dunk was great. And let's show you the. The castle dunk was pretty damn huge too. Where he caught Hartenstein and his was a dunk you could just see coming from a. From a mile away. Oh yeah. It felt like as it got kicked out and then he got to blow by from the three point line and detonate on Hartenstein. And we got the Wemby ooh reaction and we got Reggie grabbing Jamal Crawford on the sideline. All fair. Because that should have been your reaction. My God, it had the hops. It had the power. I mean, look, it's John Morant like there for sure. It was a good one. Yeah, he's pretty good.
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Trey Kirby
I think. I think he plays most like Derrick Rose, but he plays a slow version of Derrick Rose's style. But the way he always is going off two feet in the lane, the strength as well.
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Tas Melis
He.
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Trey Kirby
He's ferocious.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, that was a big, big dunk.
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Tas Melis
That was mean, mean back right there.
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J. Skeets
What else you got from this? Or should we get into some random notes?
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Tas Melis
Well, just one. Just. Just as an isolated note about Shea being able to be stopped on the break when he's one on one. The spurs just do a really good job of getting back. Specifically, Devin Vassell is so good at champagne. He's also good at it, but had flashbacks of Danny Green being able to do that against LeBron James. Even when he was with the the spurs versus the Heat. I mean, he got stopped. This was like a one on one. Vascell able to rise up and stop Shay and he did it with one minute left in game one. Pretty sure that was Vesel that and that was an awesome ability. That's it. That's it. Simple as that. Just watching those because they, they do a good job of recovering. And you know, similarly on the other end, the spurs are doing a good job of grabbing offensive boards when they can. Those little guys. I mean, Keldon Johnson also had five offensive re in this game. The guys who just keep that motor going along with Stefan castle. And then one for Carter, Brian, one for Jordan McLaughlin, one for Harrison Barnes. They're all fighting. Yeah. So it's fun.
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J. Skeets
And the final note here, before we get to random notes, Jared McCain also had a great game off the bench too. I mean, we were sort of highlighting all these guys coming off the pine for OKC. Like the Thunders best lineup in Game 2 felt like it was SGA, McCain, Wallace, Caruso and Hartenstein. A lot of small guys, but they were attacking the glass as well. And I love. There was a final play of the third. McCain was out there. SGA brought it up or sort of got back to him. Here comes the double. And it was just simple, smart basketball. The way they did it, he knew, okay, they're going to double me at the end of the quarter here. So McCain get it back to me and then they'll come back to me and I'll just kick to you and you can hit the three. That's exactly what happened. Put him up eight. Heading into the fourth quarter, again, more fight from the spurs got close, but just obviously a very comfortable, much more comfortable game for SGA in terms of getting to his spot, getting his shots. It was like, it's like the equivalent of like, you go stay in somebody's house. You know, you go see, even if it's your friend or family, you're in somebody else's home for that first day and night. You're like, you feel just like, where can I sit? What can I do? Even if they say, help yourself to anything, totally. My house is your house. And you're like, I know, but it's weird. And then it takes you a little bit. Maybe by day two or three, you're like, oh, yeah, I know where the coffee mugs are. I can make a coffee. I agree with you.
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Trey Kirby
Day one of travel, I'll never poop. Like, my body just will not allow it. That was Shay Giltress Alexander in game one, he was clogged up. Game two, he was just squirting.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, Carter Bryant too. I guess in game two, we'll get to that.
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Trey Kirby
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Tas Melis
Random.
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J. Skeets
All right, first one, I need your opinion on the. I'll call it crazy zoomed out wire cam shot. Almost feels like a drone, but I think it is a wire that we get at the start of. It feels like every game. And a few times throughout the game, usually at the start of quarters, we're showing it to everybody on YouTube. And you know, JD grabbed a bit of footage here. Are you a fan of this TAs or you like screaming? Go back to the normal camera. Zoom in a little bit. What do you. What do you think? What's your opinion?
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Tas Melis
I'm good for one play. In this instance, they keep it on for two plays, mainly because it's sort of a fast break, I guess. But then they didn't have to make a decision. I thought the director could have made a decision. Get out of this. Get out of it. I don't want to see Lou Dort behind Tony Brothers there. I thought you could have cut two to. I like it for one play.
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J. Skeets
You don't mind it in small doses? Okay.
- [30:48]
Trey Kirby
Yeah, I don't mind it at all.
- [30:49]
J. Skeets
Okay.
- [30:50]
Trey Kirby
We get the same shot for the entire game. A little variety never hurt.
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J. Skeets
Okay.
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Tas Melis
Is this because of the guy with
- [30:57]
Trey Kirby
the standing arms guy?
- [30:59]
Tas Melis
Because they're standing maybe? No, I mean, that's a good question.
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Trey Kirby
I didn't notice standing.
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J. Skeets
No, I don't. Right. He may not been there. I mean. Right.
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Tas Melis
Well, the wire cam, you can't see him, of course. But you're saying for the rest of the game.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, I don't remember seeing him last night. You know, thumbs up or standing up or getting his arms up. I don't remember.
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Tas Melis
I don't.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, but yeah, it's an interesting. I think it's just we have this wire cam shot. We got to at least use it once.
- [31:24]
Tas Melis
Yeah, that's what it is.
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J. Skeets
It's not, it's not maybe twice.
- [31:27]
Tas Melis
It's not because the fans are standing, because they're not going to wait until OKC scores to go away from that shot. Right. Because they stand until the first bucket. Although Lou Dort kind of had a good game.
- [31:38]
J. Skeets
Lou Dort did have a decent game.
- [31:40]
Tas Melis
And my question is with Lou Dort, he actually is coming down. When he releases his two point shots, three point shots, he doesn't jump all that high. He's kind of. He's on his way up. But on his two point shots, he jumps as high as he can and then he waits until he's on his way down to shoot his two point shot.
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J. Skeets
We play pickup hoops with a guy that does that. It's wild to try and guard. It takes you a while to figure it out. Andy. Shout out to Andy. He literally jumps and waits till the final second. Yeah, like so you're competing, like you're challenging it and you're like, I'm going to block this. He just keeps, he just keeps holding on to it right till he's on the ground.
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Tas Melis
Yeah. And OKC fans have to hold on to Lou a little bit longer cuz they got to wait till he releases it.
- [32:22]
J. Skeets
Here's a fun clip from last night. Wemby bowling took down two guys. It just looked like bowling to me. Luckily, nobody was injured on this play. SGA or Wemby or Cason Wallace. But he picked up the split. I thought here. Oh, we've got, we got the sound effects. Well done.
- [32:40]
Tas Melis
JD There was an arm there. An arm just passed by the camera as Wemby said. Yeah, it's my file. That's my file.
- [32:48]
J. Skeets
Carter Bryant apparently used the bathroom mid game last night. I had to check with you guys here. Like, is this real I mean, I don't know anymore. Is it AI. Is it from, like, a commercial shoot I didn't know about, but TK like, your little investigation this morning?
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Trey Kirby
Well, those are the shoes he had on last night.
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J. Skeets
Okay.
- [33:06]
Trey Kirby
And according to Reddit people, these appear to be the bathrooms that are, like, are associated with the courtside seats. So, like, if you went down the wrong tunnel or something, like, you would maybe go down the courtside seats holders and, like, oh, there's a bathroom there. I'll use it.
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J. Skeets
Okay.
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Trey Kirby
There's just thunder fans in there videotaping you.
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J. Skeets
Yeah.
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Tas Melis
And that's amazing.
- [33:27]
J. Skeets
So, I know. A little weird, a little strange, but I guess because he, like, he's the guy's filming when he comes around the corner, so. All right, let's talk this out. They're in the bathroom in this club section bathroom. Carter Bryant, I guess, comes in, and everybody must be like, what the hell? He goes around the corner, either uses the urinal or the stall, and whoever that person is with the camera is like, well, I'm gonna wait to get him when he comes back out.
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Tas Melis
Right.
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J. Skeets
That makes sense.
- [33:54]
Tas Melis
Yeah.
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J. Skeets
And then he washes his hands.
- [33:56]
Tas Melis
It was respectful.
- [33:57]
J. Skeets
All employees need to wash their hands
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Tas Melis
before they go back to work, so.
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J. Skeets
Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, he gave a good wash, too.
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Tas Melis
Good wash. Took his time.
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J. Skeets
Yeah. And then he was being filmed.
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Trey Kirby
Yeah.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, that's a great point.
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Tas Melis
That's definitely a part of it. That's the most pressure you need to perform.
- [34:12]
J. Skeets
Okay. And then I guess to add to this very likely being real, we saw that shot of Dylan Harper when he went back to the locker room and then came back. And then they're like, no, I'll go back because of the injury. Very far. Like, it looks like a very long tunnel to get at least to the visiting locker room. So maybe Carter Bryant had to go that bad. He knows that one. This, like, club bathrooms right there. Just go to that one instead. Okay. Real. Got to be real.
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Tas Melis
Somebody's got to ask him about it.
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J. Skeets
Confirmed. Real. What else do you have?
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Trey Kirby
Ashley Shamadi was dressed like Prince last night.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, the purple.
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Trey Kirby
Purple suit with, like, frilly stuff coming out of the cuffs and the neck. I suppose so. That was interesting to me. I also liked.
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Tas Melis
Was she re wearing it from when Minnesota was in the.
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J. Skeets
I don't think so.
- [35:06]
Trey Kirby
I don't know if she purified. I hadn't seen her waters of Lake Minnetonka, but two sideline reports. She looked like she 100 look like.
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J. Skeets
We have Ashley and Zora on this. We had that for game one.
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Tas Melis
Two teams.
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J. Skeets
Two teams, Yep.
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Trey Kirby
I'm gonna check in with both of them. SGA's postgame interview was pretty weird. Or they asked him about Go ahead. And Stein's impact, and he says, I'm not sure. It was good. And then he's like, yeah, he made him work. But then apparently in post game, he said, I didn't hear her. So I gave her a real answer.
- [35:34]
Tas Melis
Well, she also called him Heart.
- [35:36]
Trey Kirby
Yeah, sure.
- [35:36]
Tas Melis
She didn't call him Hartenstein. I mean, was that a part of it that he misheard?
- [35:40]
Trey Kirby
I don't know.
- [35:41]
J. Skeets
Maybe it was just. He says he misheard. That's. Yeah, he was asked about it because I was like, that was weird. It sounded really like it was crapping on him. I didn't hear it. And he, I guess just went to a default sort of. Whatever.
- [35:52]
Tas Melis
Hey. Yeah, I often do that. I don't hear somebody and I give the. That's funny. When I wasn't funny. But it's not funny. I don't even know what it was. And then the person will say, person looks at me.
- [36:06]
J. Skeets
I just told you. My cat.
- [36:07]
Tas Melis
Yeah, exactly.
- [36:08]
J. Skeets
Yeah, that's funny.
- [36:09]
Tas Melis
Hilarious.
- [36:11]
J. Skeets
You said you've enjoyed these two games in Western Cons Finals because there's been very little flopping, right?
- [36:16]
Tas Melis
Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
- [36:17]
J. Skeets
But SGA was falling down a whole lot last night there. I don't know if you've seen the compilations of SGA falling over. He fell down eight times, by my count. Sounds on shot attempts. Okay. Not other things. A majority of them were jumpers. There was a few times at the rim, but here's my thing, okay, Whatever. People put this compilation together. He was like. He hit 25% of the shots that he fell down on and barely got no whistles on Said plays where he fell down. I think there was one and one where he fell over and got the call. There was. Went to the free throw line. But the point was, to me, like, he fell down eight times or tried to embellish or whatever, but he wasn't. It was actually dumb. It wasn't working for him. It wasn't like he was drawing free throws off it and he wasn't hitting shots off it. So it's like, okay, I still get it. Like, okay, that was a little weird, but it wasn't like he went to the line every time.
- [37:09]
Trey Kirby
So you think that makes it better? It just makes sense. Grift is better than a successful grift to you.
- [37:16]
J. Skeets
Yes. I don't want him to Be rewarded for grifting. So they weren't sure. Fair is my point. Yeah. If spurs fans are putting this said compilation together, then go, go at it, man. Fall over as much as you want, because they're actually not calling it.
- [37:31]
Tas Melis
I don't remember the grifting. In all honesty, I don't think I'm being biased. But I do remember once when he had Wemby and he hit the D cell and was able to get some room from Wemby, but he was blocked from behind by Carter Bryant. An awesome block. And he went to the floor because of that.
- [37:45]
J. Skeets
Yep, that's one of them.
- [37:46]
Tas Melis
Yeah. So I thought the spurs were just doing well. And there was a second one time, I imagine that was. He was blocked and he went to the floor, but I don't remember him.
- [37:54]
J. Skeets
That's true. I said he fell down eight times. Not all eight of them, in my mind, were grifting fallovers, but some of them, of course were. But you just said. You just got done telling me. Well, Wendy might have to flop and fall over if Hardenstein's going to keep pulling him. That is definitely what SGA is thinking, too. And a lot of these superstar guys are. It's like, I got to show that I'm getting hit. So I will, you know, fall over or embellish or whatever.
- [38:17]
Tas Melis
Yeah.
- [38:18]
J. Skeets
But I will say all the crap. He gets SGA for being a free throw merchant, going to the free throw line and all that. At least when he goes to the free throw line. I respect this about sga. Doesn't take long.
- [38:30]
Trey Kirby
He's quick.
- [38:30]
J. Skeets
He is quick at the line. He takes one deep breath, one dribble shot. It takes. It's very quick. So thank you. So thank you to that. If you're at least going to go to the free throw line a lot, be quick about it, unlike your Giannis's. And yeah, we talked about Wemby taking a while, too. That's fine. Hey, do your. Do your. Do your routine. Do whatever works for you. It definitely takes a lot longer. SJ is just quick about it. One breath, one bounce shot. He's a good free throw shooter.
- [38:58]
Trey Kirby
Yes.
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J. Skeets
Yeah.
- [38:59]
Tas Melis
I got to get your opinion on. We briefly mentioned, did Hartenstein pull Stefan Castle's hair?
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J. Skeets
Yeah.
- [39:07]
Tas Melis
Yeah, I think so, too.
- [39:08]
J. Skeets
Yeah, he did. I mean, you.
- [39:10]
Tas Melis
I do agree. I. Mike Trico, great question. Right off the bat, did he pull it or was it tangled? Like, does his hand get into. Into his hair?
- [39:19]
Trey Kirby
Thought it was the grasp reflex. You know, something touches your palm, you're.
- [39:22]
J. Skeets
Yeah.
- [39:23]
Tas Melis
He did that?
- [39:23]
J. Skeets
Yeah.
- [39:23]
Tas Melis
He's been grabbing Wy's arm basically all game, so. So that was a natural reaction. Keep grabbing, man.
- [39:32]
J. Skeets
I mean, a lot of people were like, hey, you can do it in football.
- [39:35]
Trey Kirby
That's true.
- [39:36]
J. Skeets
The hair. Specifically the hair. Yeah. It's like, it's a part of the uniform. Right. My hair is part of the uniform. A little different. We're not playing football and basketball, so maybe call that. But yeah, he definitely. Yeah. Instinct was to grab it. There's a lot of hair there to grab for sure. But I can't wait to see if they, like. Okay. Hardenstein picked up two fouls right away in this game, and Dagnal kept him out there. Yeah, that was a hell of a call. Then he picked up his fourth foul in the second half pretty early and continued to roll with him. Obviously liked what they were seeing with his physicality with Wemby and his work on the glass and what he was giving him with the little teardrop floater push thing he has. So that's a hell of a good call by Dagnal. And a lot of coaches are like, I'll get him off. Take him off. No, don't do that.
- [40:20]
Trey Kirby
No. And I mean, if he files out, there's other options.
- [40:22]
J. Skeets
Exactly.
- [40:23]
Trey Kirby
That's what Dagnall was saying. He's like, we got a lot of cards we can play here. Yeah, they played the Caruso card. They played the Hartenstein card. I mean, theoretically, there will be a check card at some point. You would have to think,
- [40:36]
Tas Melis
yeah, yeah. No, I'm gonna get into. Go ahead. Go ahead.
- [40:39]
Trey Kirby
You go ahead.
- [40:40]
Tas Melis
He did push him, Pull him down to the floor or pull him to the bench, I should say.920 left in the third quarter with his fourth foul.
- [40:46]
J. Skeets
Okay.
- [40:46]
Tas Melis
But he was able to put him. Right. But that's when he brought Hartenstein and Chet Holmgren to the benchmark.
- [40:52]
J. Skeets
That's okay.
- [40:52]
Tas Melis
Yeah. That was wild. But he did put him back. He did play a bunch, but he did get into foul trouble. And so the question is.
- [40:58]
J. Skeets
Yeah, because he had too early.
- [40:59]
Tas Melis
Yeah.
- [40:59]
J. Skeets
Yeah.
- [41:00]
Tas Melis
If. If Wemby does sell it a little bit more, will he have more fouls? But he, in this case, it was really important for him to be on the floor in the fourth quarter. Harnstein had five offensive boards in that fourth quarter. Just keep them going.
- [41:13]
J. Skeets
I don't think selling it is the answer in Wemby's case here. It's just matching that physicality with your own. I, I, you know, personally, because, again, I Don't know really how you sort of like you're gonna send the tape. I get all that and maybe one or two extra. One of these is called, like an official sees it and they call it like on a rebound attempt or whatever.
- [41:30]
Tas Melis
But do what the Shaolin Temple taught you. The great Kick them well, be able to be physical because Ramon Shelburne, VSPN's latest breakdown of what happened this summer was a lot of the physicality or Bismack. Biobo's got to do it more in practice because that's what they've been training.
- [41:51]
J. Skeets
Oh, yeah. Stop bumping in practice. Start grabbing in practice. Yeah, they get used to it.
- [41:56]
Trey Kirby
Anything else, tk Devin Vassell, like, Tom Chambers, the rebound late in the fourth quarter. He went to the offensive glass hard.
- [42:02]
Tas Melis
Yeah.
- [42:03]
Trey Kirby
Maybe it was sga. That was boxing out. But Vassell went over his back. The easiest over the back call of all time. And he came down laughing. He's like, hey, I'm sorry. Felt awesome.
- [42:14]
J. Skeets
He. He has sneaky hops. Like he, like on his jump shot. That guy jumps high. And then he has these blocks too where you're like, whoa, I didn't know you had that in you. But yeah, very, very athletic.
- [42:27]
Tas Melis
Yeah. Six threes in this game.
- [42:29]
J. Skeets
Yeah, I thought he was.
- [42:30]
Tas Melis
He's been solid. Last one for me. I was always a. A proponent. Advocate for Tony Brothers if he becomes mayor of Norfolk, Virginia later on. That's the correct pronunciation. It's not Norfolk.
- [42:43]
J. Skeets
Okay.
- [42:44]
Tas Melis
Norfolk.
- [42:45]
Trey Kirby
Norfolk.
- [42:46]
Tas Melis
Yeah. They don't pronounce it Norfolk. Anyways, I'm a big proponent of that. Apparently he's gonna apply to be mayor, but when I saw him call that over and back on Stefan Castle, I thought, I don't know. I can't vote for you anymore. Because that wasn't an over and back. I had to remember when Stefan Castle got to the mid court line, he didn't step over. He bounced the ball kind of close to mid court and I had to rewatch it. I. I just couldn't see it. I couldn't see it. I don't think he may have touched part of the mid court line with the ball. Yeah, it's a question. And maybe that's what makes him a great mayor, is that he's very accurate in his assessments. But I couldn't tell either way. Novik. Good luck. Good luck with Tony Brothers.
- [43:28]
Trey Kirby
I think Mitchell Irvin, he was one of the officials last night.
- [43:31]
J. Skeets
No, no. We had Tiffin, we had Tiffany, we had Ed Malloy and Tony Brothers.
- [43:36]
Trey Kirby
This is Game one. Never mind. No, retracted.
- [43:40]
J. Skeets
I think that's who we had last night. I don't know.
- [43:43]
Tas Melis
You're right.
- [43:44]
J. Skeets
We had Ed Malloy, Tiffin and Brothers, I think. But I can't picture Ed Malloy. For some reason there.
- [43:49]
Tas Melis
That makes a good referee when you can't picture. No, you're right.
- [43:51]
Trey Kirby
Mitchell Irvin was there last night.
- [43:52]
Tas Melis
No, that was game one. Last night was Brothers, Malloy, Tiven, Carl Lane.
- [43:57]
Trey Kirby
No, the fourth. I'm telling you that Mitchell Irvin was on the court last night. The note is back on Mitchell Irvin. Looks like he's laughing at the players every time they complain to him.
- [44:07]
J. Skeets
Okay.
- [44:08]
Trey Kirby
And he was there last night.
- [44:10]
J. Skeets
I don't remember seeing. And Malloy. So I'm looking at the box.
- [44:13]
Trey Kirby
I'm telling you, Mitchell Irvin was there.
- [44:15]
J. Skeets
I agree. I agree.
- [44:17]
Tas Melis
He was Game one, man.
- [44:19]
J. Skeets
Wow. They all blend together, man.
- [44:22]
Tas Melis
Rachel Irvin.
- [44:23]
J. Skeets
No, we gotta get the tape up.
- [44:24]
Trey Kirby
Oh, this is crazy.
- [44:25]
J. Skeets
Get the tape up.
- [44:25]
Trey Kirby
This is crazy, bro.
- [44:26]
Tas Melis
Now we're. Now we're looking at.
- [44:28]
Trey Kirby
I'm looking at Getty Images to see if this is May 18th.
- [44:33]
J. Skeets
Yeah, that's game one.
- [44:36]
Trey Kirby
I agree. I agree.
- [44:37]
J. Skeets
Damn, Mitchell.
- [44:38]
Trey Kirby
Note retracted.
- [44:39]
J. Skeets
Carl Lane maybe is who you're thinking of.
- [44:41]
Tas Melis
Yeah, so that's. Let me look at the fourth one that they have. They have four referees listening.
- [44:46]
Trey Kirby
I was thinking of Carl.
- [44:47]
J. Skeets
Yeah, I was thinking Carl.
- [44:50]
Tas Melis
So Carl was on the floor.
- [44:52]
Trey Kirby
This is Carl Lane.
- [44:53]
Tas Melis
Because then they have four referees on the.
- [44:55]
J. Skeets
Maybe Ed Malloy was the alternate. That makes more sense because I don't remember seeing him. Yeah, okay. We figured it out. We cracked the case.
- [45:02]
Tas Melis
Why don't they list who's the alternate?
- [45:03]
J. Skeets
Hey, we got some news here, J.D. you're going to like this news, buddy. San Antonio spurs are returning to Paris for a regular season game in 2027.
- [45:11]
Tas Melis
Ooh la la.
- [45:14]
J. Skeets
The NBA announced yesterday that the spurs will face the Pelicans in Paris, where JD And I went to see the spurs play the Pacers two games. And Manchester, England. JD on January 14th and 17th. This is next season. So Spurs, Pelicans in Paris and Manchester, England.
- [45:33]
Tas Melis
First time there.
- [45:34]
J. Skeets
Should we book our tickets now, J.D.
- [45:39]
Tas Melis
i want to say yes, but fuel is so high right now.
- [45:43]
J. Skeets
Let's wait.
- [45:44]
Tas Melis
Let's wait.
- [45:44]
J. Skeets
Let's wait. You want to take a boat?
- [45:48]
Tas Melis
Well, we're taking the Chunnel in between Paris to Manchester.
- [45:54]
J. Skeets
Okay.
- [45:54]
Tas Melis
We're taking a plane. We're going by train.
- [45:57]
J. Skeets
Wow.
- [45:57]
Tas Melis
Fly to Paris.
- [45:58]
J. Skeets
We could do a show. We could do a show on the train.
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Tas Melis
Has it Ever been done?
- [46:03]
J. Skeets
Podcast on a train, probably.
- [46:05]
Tas Melis
Podcast on a train, yes. NBA podcast on a train. No, I don't think so.
- [46:09]
J. Skeets
Never, never, never. We're doing it. All right. Those are our notes. Let's take a break. When we come back, all rookie teams and some LeBron fantasy booking.
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Trey Kirby
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No doubt.
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J. Skeets
What do you got?
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Mitchell? 25 plus points.
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Wow.
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Trey Kirby
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Tas Melis
Yeah.
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Trey Kirby
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J. Skeets
Jeez.
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Trey Kirby
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J. Skeets
That's a lot of rebounds.
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Trey Kirby
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J. Skeets
A lot of rebounds.
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J. Skeets
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Trey Kirby
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J. Skeets
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Trey Kirby
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J. Skeets
Play your game, Carl Lane. Let's make a T shirt that says that. Okay, we got some news. We're still doing awards. When the fuck are they doing? Coach of the year? What is going on? Why aren't we handing out coach of the year? Is it all because of you know who. Joe Mazool.
- [48:06]
Trey Kirby
Said he hates it.
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J. Skeets
Yeah. Yeah. So what are they? They're like figuring they'd have to convince them not to trash it when they hand it to him. Anyway. The NBA has announced the 20, 25, 26 NBA. All rookie teams, first team in alphabetical order. League likes to do it that way, you know. Cedric Coward of the Grizzlies, VJ Edgecomb of the 76ers. Cooper, flag on the Mavs. Dylan Harper, the Spurs. And Con Caniple of the Hornets. Flag. Caniple and Edgecombe, unanimous first team selections. Harper got a whole lot of first place votes. And then that fifth guy with Cedric Howard getting In there with enough points. The second team, all rooks in alphabetical order. We got Ace Bailey of the Jazz, Jeremiah Fears of the Pelicans, Colin Murray Boyles of the Raptors, Maxime Reynold of the Kings, and Derrick Queen, also of the Pelicans. So voters selected five players to the first team and five players to the second team, regardless of position. Players received two points for each first team vote, one point for each second team vote. Any takeaways from these two? All rookie teams.
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Tas Melis
They only picked the five for the first team because they're in the first half of the Alphabet. That's why they wanted to get Derek Queen and Derek Queen should have been in there because his name is Queen. They couldn't put him in there over Dylan Harper. Well, you know. No, I'm saying those Queen should have been on the first team. However, Coward, Edgecombe, Flag, Harper and Knipple are for the first part. First half of the Alphabet. So they wanted to split it up.
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J. Skeets
You think Derek Queen was deserving of a first team?
- [49:44]
Tas Melis
I mean, I thought so for a while. I did. I did have him for a while, but no, it's just a dumb joke.
- [49:49]
J. Skeets
Okay.
- [49:52]
Trey Kirby
You know, do a dumb joke. Just read an ad really, really slowly and quietly.
- [49:57]
Tas Melis
Well, that was Zach Galifianakis from this is a gardening.
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J. Skeets
I finished.
- [50:02]
Tas Melis
Was. Did it get better?
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J. Skeets
Look, it's fun. It's a good show. It's just not what I expected going into it. Like, it's like. It's obviously very silly.
- [50:12]
Tas Melis
It's half silly and he's like talking
- [50:14]
J. Skeets
to kids nonstop in it.
- [50:15]
Tas Melis
Yeah.
- [50:16]
J. Skeets
And there's funny moments and then they
- [50:17]
Tas Melis
get the heck out of there and then they. He talks to the expert.
- [50:19]
J. Skeets
I will say the funniest was the farmer. The old guy. 70 year old farmer with corn. The corn episode. You watch that one?
- [50:25]
Tas Melis
Of course.
- [50:26]
J. Skeets
Yeah. Okay, well, you must like the compost one.
- [50:28]
Tas Melis
Yeah, for sure.
- [50:28]
J. Skeets
Season finale. Composting.
- [50:30]
Tas Melis
I mean.
- [50:30]
Trey Kirby
Wow.
- [50:31]
Tas Melis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting. Compost. I don't know how interesting composting could be, but that's why they're 15 minutes and done. Seven minutes of it's broken up. Seven minutes of kids, essentially.
- [50:42]
J. Skeets
Yeah.
- [50:42]
Tas Melis
Like funny part and then seven minutes of an expert.
- [50:45]
J. Skeets
They fly by. They're quick.
- [50:46]
Tas Melis
A lot of Canada in there. Because he lives in Canada. There's.
- [50:50]
J. Skeets
Here's, here's the problem.
- [50:52]
Tas Melis
The apple grafting. The apples are the best thing.
- [50:55]
J. Skeets
That was all right.
- [50:56]
Tas Melis
That's awesome.
- [50:57]
J. Skeets
Tom Green's show is 100 times better than this. About starting A farm. It's way better.
- [51:04]
Trey Kirby
Nice.
- [51:04]
Tas Melis
So okay.
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J. Skeets
Yeah.
- [51:06]
Tas Melis
All right.
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J. Skeets
It's just better. I think it's good.
- [51:07]
Tas Melis
Longer probably.
- [51:08]
J. Skeets
Where are we? What are we talking about here?
- [51:09]
Tas Melis
Yeah. Deserving. I thought Colin Murray Boyles a question whether or not he would make the second team but did you see him in the playoffs? I know these don't take into account the playoffs. By gosh, he was so good. And Trey Johnson and Ugo Gonzalez, they got a little looked over in my eyes. I'm a big Ugo guy. Either way tk they did good and
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J. Skeets
snubs or these are the top 10 to you.
- [51:34]
Trey Kirby
I. I'm happy with this 10. The last guy for me was Reyno and I was happy to see him get. I thought he was pretty good during the second half of the season. I mean that's the least valuable half but still it was pretty good I thought. Interesting that Coward got the last spot over. I guess Ace Bailey probably was like number six in voting. I don't know. Maybe Ace Bailey. I thought Queen could have had a chance because he had some high moments early in the season. But my main takeaway is that like these are 10 good rookies.
- [51:59]
J. Skeets
Yes.
- [52:00]
Trey Kirby
The second team here is like on par with the first team from last year. So good stuff.
- [52:05]
J. Skeets
That's a great point. And that first team by God, I mean.
- [52:08]
Trey Kirby
Oh yeah.
- [52:09]
J. Skeets
I mean in theory we're looking at. I don't know, I guess I'm projecting here but for all NBA like guys I don't think is a stretch with Kanippel, Harper, Flag and Edgecombe at least three, maybe four as we move on and then who knows if Cedric Cowardly look also he's a great too so yeah. Hell of a rookie squad here this year. Okay, let's get to a question that we had to cut from yesterday's beach step in because we wanted to make it its own segment and it's from bogey in Sweden. If next season is LeBron's last and he doesn't re sign with the Lakers, what team would you most like to see him join? Disregard cap space and realism. Fantasize freely. For me it's probably the Hawks. I just think he'd be a great influence for the young players like Kaminga and Rhys sashay to get to work alongside him and see his work ethic off the court. Just a small hypothetical I thought could be fun. Much love to you guys. What you do. I listen to the pod every day. Love from Sweden. We love this. This is a fun question. Fantasize freely. Guys, that's what we're going to do here. There's no rules. Don't worry about cap space, you nerds. We're putting LeBron wherever we want. Okay? We're going to make it into a draft, though. We'll move with some pace here. Don't worry. But we're going to draft teams that we want to see LeBron play, hypothetically, as last season, I guess, or last stint in the NBA. To decide who goes first. I got a trivia question for you guys. This is how we always do it. Now, LeBron made his first NBA Finals in just his fourth NBA season. Okay. Cavaliers got swept by Tim Duncan Spurs. They were clearly outclassed. LeBron had a funny team going up against the mighty spurs back then. And that is our trivia question. LeBron and nine other guys on the Cavs played in Game Ones. 85 to 76, loss. I wanted to make note of that. That was game one. 85. 76. Good game. What a great game. Can you name the nine Cleveland Cavaliers to play in that game one of the 07 finals with LeBron? So we'll go back and forth. Task, you're shaking your head. We're gonna start with you.
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Tas Melis
I'm shaking my head because I know the depth of them, but I know I'm gonna screw up even the first one.
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J. Skeets
No, no. Test.
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Tas Melis
Okay.
- [54:22]
J. Skeets
Okay. Come on.
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Tas Melis
The big Z.
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J. Skeets
There you go.
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Tas Melis
Task.
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J. Skeets
Get a bad game one. One of eight from the floor for Big Z. Okay. TK Eric Snow. Eric Snow played 14 seconds in game one. He remembers. He remembers it.
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Trey Kirby
Yeah.
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J. Skeets
Oh, yeah.
- [54:45]
Trey Kirby
He was dribbling.
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J. Skeets
He was a minus 3 in the 14 seconds he played.
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Trey Kirby
That was a bad run.
- [54:50]
J. Skeets
Yep. He was an O for across the box. Wow. What a. Wow. Wow. Just gets in. Okay, test, back to you.
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Tas Melis
Yeah, Now. Now I start to think of the guards that I'm thinking of. Did they pull in Eric Snow and get there later? I'll go. Drew Gooden.
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J. Skeets
Yeah, here we go.
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Tas Melis
Yeah, here we go. Just to be safe.
- [55:11]
J. Skeets
I think you guys are overthinking a little bit. Drew Gooden is correct. Back to you, Trey.
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Trey Kirby
Damon Jones.
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J. Skeets
Damon. Trey's going with the guys that played the least amount. Should have been saving these guys. Damon Jones played 12 minutes. Minutes, I should say. He played 12 minutes. Okay. Yep. Back to you. Yeah, this is good. Here we go. You guys are missing two starters.
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Tas Melis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to say the other. Dante Jones. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that one. I'm not gonna Say that one. The other. Sasha Pavlovich.
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J. Skeets
Nice pole. Tas Melis.
- [55:43]
Trey Kirby
That was my next one.
- [55:44]
J. Skeets
Played 36 minutes. He was a starter in game one there of the 07 finals. All right, Trey, do you go with the other starter or do you keep running with your guys off the bench?
- [55:53]
Trey Kirby
Who else could have possibly started for this, too?
- [55:56]
Tas Melis
The shooting guard.
- [55:57]
Trey Kirby
The shooting guard. Too late for Sura. It can't be Ricky Davis. It cannot be.
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J. Skeets
I can't believe you didn't say this guy. Sort of. First I thought maybe it's too early for Mo Williams.
- [56:10]
Trey Kirby
Booby Gibson.
- [56:11]
J. Skeets
He did play off the bench and off the bench. He was the best player probably in this game. In game one for the Cavs, he was seven and nine from the floor.
- [56:20]
Tas Melis
Okay.
- [56:20]
J. Skeets
He's named all three bench guys or three of the bench guys.
- [56:23]
Tas Melis
I was hesitant to say this guy because he went. Played with the Wizards, and I couldn't just. Just worried about Larry Hughes.
- [56:29]
J. Skeets
There we go. There we go. I thought Larry Hughes was coming out quick.
- [56:32]
Tas Melis
I know, I know. But I'm just worried that, you know, okay, so good with the Wizards.
- [56:35]
J. Skeets
So this is great. We. We're still going here. We've named all the starters, so LeBron Pavlovich, Truegard, drew Gooden, Larry Hughes and Big Z. Booby Gibson off the bench. Damon Jones off the bench, and eric snow. All 14 seconds of him. There's two guys off the bench still. Back to you, Trey.
- [56:52]
Trey Kirby
Give me a Jawad Williams. What?
- [57:02]
J. Skeets
You tell me name.
- [57:03]
Tas Melis
Jad Williams.
- [57:05]
J. Skeets
No. Left is the. Come on. A man can't say Jawan Williams. No, you can't. Just said just to see if you can complete it. Okay, so you've won the number one, but there are two guys left, and they're gettable guys, man. They're not good. They are more than Jawad Williams.
- [57:28]
Tas Melis
Yeah. Now,
- [57:31]
Trey Kirby
hey, man, he's a coach for the Spurs. I saw him.
- [57:33]
J. Skeets
Jill Wide Williams.
- [57:35]
Trey Kirby
Let me redeem myself. Another guy that didn't play, Anderson Verjon.
- [57:39]
J. Skeets
That's a guy that played. Yes, he played 31 minutes, man.
- [57:42]
Tas Melis
31 minutes.
- [57:43]
J. Skeets
Yeah. He was the number one bench. Okay.
- [57:46]
Tas Melis
Wasn't that really good guy? There's one guy, Antoine Jameson was not there yet.
- [57:50]
J. Skeets
There's a guy, Tassia. He. Okay, here's. Here's. I'll give you two hints for this guy. This is the final guy that played in game one. No, no, no, hold on.
- [57:58]
Tas Melis
No way.
- [57:58]
J. Skeets
Played for the Raptors, though. Former Raptors player. And this guy for a long time was a Piece of NBA history. He was. He was tied with someone in NBA history for a thing he did in a particular game.
- [58:12]
Tas Melis
Not Derek Martin, but like a different.
- [58:15]
Trey Kirby
Did LeBron pass to him in the corner?
- [58:16]
J. Skeets
He sure did.
- [58:17]
Trey Kirby
Danielle Marshall.
- [58:18]
Tas Melis
Oh, Danielle Marshall.
- [58:18]
J. Skeets
Danielle Marshall.
- [58:23]
Tas Melis
Nice.
- [58:23]
Trey Kirby
Jawad Williams.
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Tas Melis
He didn't play.
- [58:25]
J. Skeets
No, he wasn't.
- [58:25]
Tas Melis
Jawad didn't play.
- [58:26]
J. Skeets
Ira Newble did not play. Scott Pollard did not play in game one.
- [58:30]
Trey Kirby
I don't remember him as a Cav
- [58:32]
J. Skeets
at all of the 07 final else. Wow. That was fun, though.
- [58:34]
Trey Kirby
It's fun to go deep.
- [58:35]
Tas Melis
God, it's like when you go with the 06 heat, that's who I think of, like, going super deep. Like a guy who just kind of
- [58:44]
Trey Kirby
play like a. I'm saying Michael Doliak. If we do that one for sure.
- [58:48]
J. Skeets
No, I want you to be on that. I see him all the time now. Is his name Nick? The guy that ball knowledge. And he's always testing people. Just. Just name a guy. And he's always looking for, like, deep cut guys.
- [59:03]
Trey Kirby
Oh, yeah.
- [59:04]
J. Skeets
I want you on it so badly just to say Jawad Williams.
- [59:06]
Trey Kirby
Jawad Williams. I've thought about it. First name. I'm saying, if that guy ever encounters me. Henry Sims.
- [59:12]
J. Skeets
Oh, good.
- [59:13]
Trey Kirby
Philadelphia 76.
- [59:14]
J. Skeets
Wow. Good one.
- [59:15]
Tas Melis
Oh, that's a good one. No, not. Not Garrett.
- [59:17]
J. Skeets
It's a good one. Good one.
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Tas Melis
Well, yeah, when I think. When you say. Every time I think Henry Sims, I think Garrett says, who.
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J. Skeets
Who doesn't slurry, blurry or whatever Blur?
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Trey Kirby
Recently Barnes Yard moment. We got some hits here.
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J. Skeets
Okay. Okay. Tass is the number one pick. We're drafting LeBron's next team. Again, no cap space. You don't have to be all that realistic. It's just like what you would love to see. It's basically 2K. Where are you putting LeBron?
- [64:16]
Tas Melis
Putting LeBron on the new York Knicks.
- [64:19]
J. Skeets
Okay.
- [64:19]
Tas Melis
Stephen A. Yeah, I got to. I got to listen. They could be one piece away from winning their first championship in over 50 years. Stephen A. And others want to start the actual goat conversation. Do it when LeBron gets number five of his rings because they are super close. They're not going to win the NBA title.
- [64:38]
J. Skeets
Oh, wow.
- [64:38]
Tas Melis
But if you object. Come on.
- [64:41]
J. Skeets
Hey, hey. What did I say before this series started? That Western Conference finals and the other one, like, like, the best bet for the Knicks is just they destroy each other.
- [64:48]
Tas Melis
Yeah, that's true.
- [64:48]
J. Skeets
Guys are dropping left and right.
- [64:50]
Tas Melis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That part is good for them.
- [64:51]
J. Skeets
So. Okay.
- [64:53]
Tas Melis
But, yes, I'll take the Knicks just to be that one extra step. Just that one extra guy.
- [65:01]
J. Skeets
Okay. Knicks off the board.
- [65:03]
Trey Kirby
Yeah. They were high on my list as well. They were number two behind my number one team, the Golden State Warriors.
- [65:09]
J. Skeets
You took my. Took my pick.
- [65:11]
Trey Kirby
The gold medal Warriors.
- [65:12]
Tas Melis
Yeah.
- [65:13]
J. Skeets
That'll be fun.
- [65:13]
Trey Kirby
It was exciting seeing Steph and LeBron played together in the Olympics. It would be awesome to see them playing together as well in the NBA. Would they be a championship team? I don't know. But they would be guaranteed the team that everybody says, you don't want to
- [65:27]
J. Skeets
play these guys in the playoffs.
- [65:29]
Trey Kirby
Steph, Jimmy, LeBron, Dre. It's four ancient men, but it'd be cool to see.
- [65:35]
Tas Melis
Yep.
- [65:35]
J. Skeets
Yeah, that was. I was hoping that would follow me. I have the third pick overall. I'm going to go My angle is still a chance to catch Michael Jordan with the six championship. So who are the best teams in the league? Well, we're watching them in the Western Conference finals, so let's put them on. Let's put them on the Spurs. Let's put them on the spurs, you know.
- [65:56]
Trey Kirby
Okay.
- [65:57]
J. Skeets
Okay. If they fall short here, it's going to be like, oh, yeah. Well, they don't have the experience yet. Right. You got to take your postseason lumps right into a team that has obviously won the title and we're better than them. So get some experience in here. The oldest guy in the league, help him get his fifth and then maybe six by putting him on the Spurs.
- [66:14]
Trey Kirby
You thinking he could take Harrison Barnes minutes off the bench?
- [66:17]
J. Skeets
I believe he could. Yes. I'd be able to absolutely believe he could. So LeBron to the Spurs.
- [66:22]
Tas Melis
For me, he'd get to the finals potentially 20 years after he got to them with the Cleveland Cavaliers versus the San Antonio spurs.
- [66:29]
J. Skeets
Literally two decades after Eric Snow could be sitting in the stands for game one of the 2000, you know, 27 NBA finals.
- [66:38]
Trey Kirby
Williams Williams would be there. That's right.
- [66:40]
J. Skeets
All right, T, back to you.
- [66:44]
Tas Melis
I like him in Atlanta. He could be the number one scorer there because, listen, they were going to CJ McCallum for their number one score. They need somebody like that. So I like his role there. Unlike a lot of these other possibilities, he could be the number one guy and he could teach a lot of the young guys, you know, especially the Jalen Johnson. This is how you do it, man. So I like it. I like that for him because he's still really good. I don't want him to be at the end of a bench like a Spurs. Like, he's not going to do enough there. I don't think, you know, he might be the Tracy McGrady championship with the Spurs. Okay. Not. Not quite that bad, but you know. You know what I mean?
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J. Skeets
Yeah. You also probably want him here in Atlanta, so you could go watch him biased.
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Tas Melis
That'd be pretty cool.
- [67:28]
J. Skeets
It's a good pick.
- [67:29]
Tas Melis
Yeah.
- [67:30]
J. Skeets
All right. Hawks gone. Where are you going, Trey?
- [67:32]
Trey Kirby
I think Jalen Johnson has done, like, off season workouts with LeBron. I think they have a relationship. That'd be pretty cool.
- [67:37]
J. Skeets
Okay.
- [67:40]
Trey Kirby
Okay. They've sat for a long time here. Give me the Cavaliers.
- [67:43]
J. Skeets
Okay.
- [67:43]
Tas Melis
Yeah. Yep.
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Trey Kirby
Going back home. They're probably not going to win the championship this year.
- [67:49]
J. Skeets
No.
- [67:49]
Tas Melis
Nope.
- [67:50]
Trey Kirby
I guess there's still a chance they make the Finals and maybe a lot of people get hurt. And the Cavs win the championship. Seems unlikely, but start there, leave there, go back there, leave there, come back there.
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Tas Melis
Yeah. Pretty crazy.
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J. Skeets
Okay, to me here, I'm swerving here with my second pick. You know, if you're trying to chase Jordan in the six rings, I mean, that's going to be tough no matter where I put him. If I put them on the spurs, put him on Thunder, I mean, it's got. Win two more, tie the guy, for crying out loud. So let's approach the chasing the Jordan ghost a different way. Let's put him on the Wizards.
- [68:23]
Trey Kirby
Oh, yeah. Oh, okay.
- [68:25]
J. Skeets
Not Bulls. Yeah. No, on the wizards. Let's see LeBron just try and do a better version of what Jordan did at the end on Washington that we pretend to forget about. Obviously. Put up some numbers. Still. Still an All Star. That'd be just fun if LeBron was like, okay, actually now a decent team with like Trey Young and Anthony Davis reunited young pieces. Maybe they'd be decent in the east, but the whole angle here would be to just, oh, yeah, Jordan did that when he was at that age. We'll watch this and play at an all NBA level still. Whatever. Put up crazy numbers. So Wizards, I'm swerving like crazy here in D.C. one more round.
- [69:05]
Tas Melis
LeBron's going to LeBron to the Toronto Raptors. Mainly because not so much on the floor. More because kind of done with the nickname of the six. I think we can move on. And I think LeBronto as a name will sort of make that one dissipate a little bit. Slowly but surely, you know, we can move on. I don't think LeBronto is going to be a great nickname, but the more you establish that, the more you get rid of the other one, the more we can just move on in General from the Six and from LeBron to. It's time.
- [69:35]
Trey Kirby
Yeah, he plays for the Raptors. It becomes less of an insult to the Raptors.
- [69:40]
Tas Melis
That's a good point.
- [69:41]
J. Skeets
Yeah. But yeah, I mean, after what Drake just said on the Iceman album, he
- [69:47]
Trey Kirby
just replaced this tattoo of him.
- [69:48]
J. Skeets
Yeah. I don't think it's happening, man. Too much beef. There's too many beans on the table. Indeed.
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Tas Melis
Okay. They can have a beans and beef dinner in their suite in the Scotiabank arena because. Because Drake has seats there. They can go and make up for it. You know, let's break bread and wipe those beans. Let's do it.
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J. Skeets
Okay.
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Tas Melis
I can do it.
- [70:12]
J. Skeets
Okay. Raptors. Nick's Hawks. Raptors were Tassis teams for Lebron where are you going? Trey, for your final pick, break bread
- [70:19]
Trey Kirby
and wipe those beans. Okay, look, would I love to see him on the bowls? Of course I would. He doesn't have the guts. How about the King to the Kings? Pretty hilarious to imagine LeBron the ultimate challenge. Can you make the Kings irrelevant?
- [70:34]
J. Skeets
Contending team, right?
- [70:35]
Trey Kirby
We'll see it, but I'm going off the board here. I'd like to see LeBron joined the Cleveland Browns for his next team.
- [70:41]
J. Skeets
Wow.
- [70:42]
Trey Kirby
This guy tells us he could play football.
- [70:44]
J. Skeets
Wow.
- [70:44]
Trey Kirby
He was an all state, all American level football player. He's still got size. People tell me he would still be a great tight end even though he hasn't played competitive football for like 25 years. Let's see if he's got it. Probably good on his body at 41, 42 years old to switch over to tackle football. But if he ain't going to the Cavs, I want him back in Cleveland playing for the Browns.
- [71:05]
J. Skeets
Okay.
- [71:06]
Tas Melis
He should start a flag football league. I mean, there they exist, but, like, he should be a star of flag football league when in his 40s. Sure.
- [71:14]
Trey Kirby
I would like to see him take up an Olympic sport when he finally does retire. See what he's good enough at to, like, be one of the best in the world.
- [71:23]
Tas Melis
Well, what else would he be awesome at?
- [71:26]
Trey Kirby
Well, I mean, three on three at basketball would be a given, but, like, he's strong. I imagine he could throw a shot put really far. A lot of technique, for sure. Probably would be a decent, like, middle hitter in a volleyball team.
- [71:43]
Tas Melis
Yeah. Gain 40 pounds, do the hammer throw. Yeah, he could do a lot.
- [71:48]
J. Skeets
All right, final pick here. In drafting LeBron's next team, where do I go? A lot of teams left on the table. Do I put them on a good team, put them on a bad team? Yeah, I know where I'm putting up. He hates it there. I want to see him suffer in his last year. I want to see him complain about the nightlife and the hotels. He wants to move this franchise, for crying out loud. I'm putting them on the Grizzlies. Just. Just stick it to him.
- [72:17]
Tas Melis
Yeah.
- [72:17]
J. Skeets
Come on, man. Oh. Or maybe it'll move them to Nashville, I don't know. Or maybe he'll fall in love with Memphis.
- [72:23]
Trey Kirby
Just gotta be there.
- [72:24]
J. Skeets
Yeah. It's like you always. You just come here and you're here for a night or two.
- [72:28]
Trey Kirby
He wouldn't even have to be in the hotel.
- [72:29]
J. Skeets
Yeah, get exactly. Buy a beautiful house, a lot of property, some great restaurants, great people. All Right on. The Grizz is where I'm putting LeBron. Le. Grizz. Yeah. All right, so Taz has the Knicks, the Hawks, and the Raptors. Trey has the warriors, the Cavs, and the Cleveland Browns. And I have the spurs to try and chase Jordan. Six titles. The Wizards just to try and out duel or out Class. Jordan with his final stint. There's. And the Grizzlies just to stick it to them.
- [72:58]
Tas Melis
Fun one.
- [72:58]
J. Skeets
Yep. Let's hear from you. Where do you Want to put LeBron James? Fun question. Thank you. Bogey. Well, but little bit of the night sponsored by Matthew only. What's up with every guy named Matthew having a last name that starts with an O? What up with that?
- [73:17]
Trey Kirby
We know, like, four of them.
- [73:19]
J. Skeets
It's insane.
- [73:20]
Tas Melis
Yeah.
- [73:20]
J. Skeets
Anyway. Not that we know that this guy. But, you know. Anyway, Matthew writes in. Matty O. 4.0 writes in. As a fan of Superman and no dunks, I don't want to be that guy. But K. L Ware's first name is pronounced the same way as Superman's name. KL not like Khalil, which I definitely do, and say, I love you guys. Don't hate me. That's what Matthew writes. So it's not Khalil.
- [73:50]
Tas Melis
Yeah, and it's never been that.
- [73:53]
J. Skeets
It's never been Khalil. It's more Kalel. I mean, I'm probably saying that it's Kalel. Kalel. Kalel. Okay, you.
- [74:00]
Tas Melis
You definitely said it wrong.
- [74:01]
J. Skeets
Kalel. Calel. More Cal. Like California. What do you mean it's not Cal? He's the Superman guy.
- [74:10]
Tas Melis
Yeah. Yeah. But number one, it's on basketball reference. Number two, it's on the Heat team site on NBA.com where you can get the actual pronunciations of each player saying their name.
- [74:22]
J. Skeets
Okay, and what is it? It's more
- [74:26]
Tas Melis
Claw. It's difficult because. Because the way they pronounce it, it's so quick on the mic. I'll give it to you here, J.D. let me turn up my.
- [74:34]
J. Skeets
Oh, here we go.
- [74:35]
Tas Melis
Yeah, I'll get as close as possible.
- [74:37]
Trey Kirby
Interesting.
- [74:37]
J. Skeets
Here.
- [74:39]
Tas Melis
Khalil. Where?
- [74:40]
J. Skeets
Kalel. Kale. That's what he said.
- [74:43]
Tas Melis
You said cow. I was saying it slowly so you can.
- [74:47]
J. Skeets
Yeah, it's Kal.
- [74:48]
Tas Melis
El. Yeah.
- [74:50]
J. Skeets
Aaron Kalel.
- [74:53]
Tas Melis
Well, basketball. Basketball reference has it K. U h, that's K. Exactly. Exactly. It doesn't say Leo. So the.
- [75:02]
J. Skeets
Anyways, well, cut. That's. I mean, that's wrong, though.
- [75:06]
Tas Melis
Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
- [75:07]
J. Skeets
It shouldn't be. It shouldn't be Khalil.
- [75:09]
Tas Melis
No, but. Well, that one says K U, H, dash L, E, L, L. Oh, Kalel.
- [75:14]
Trey Kirby
Yeah, capital.
- [75:16]
J. Skeets
But it's the first part where. Yeah, that's the big question.
- [75:20]
Tas Melis
Big question. Let's see how you pronounce Andrew Wiggins. I'm on the Miami Heath. Andrew Wiggins. Huh? Different than I thought. Really?
- [75:31]
J. Skeets
I think he's kidding. Okay. Wow. Look what you've done here, Matty. O. Four point know.
- [75:37]
Tas Melis
Oh, my God, they've got Eric Spra spelled E, R I C. Spolstra. He's in. He's in the R I, K. Yeah,
- [75:44]
J. Skeets
but I guess pronounce it like Eric.
- [75:46]
Tas Melis
No, but you can't. No, this is just the spelling.
- [75:48]
J. Skeets
Oh, they just messed it up.
- [75:49]
Tas Melis
Let's see how this.
- [75:49]
J. Skeets
Let's see this. Peter.
- [75:52]
Trey Kirby
Eric Spra.
- [75:53]
J. Skeets
Yeah.
- [75:53]
Tas Melis
Oh, well. Well pronounced.
- [75:55]
J. Skeets
That's all I've been saying. Yeah, it was clean on the mic.
- [75:58]
Trey Kirby
Give me a Norm Powell.
- [75:59]
Tas Melis
He went to. He went to a podcast mic.
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J. Skeets
There's some other crazy names on the heat.
- [76:04]
Tas Melis
Who?
- [76:04]
J. Skeets
We got Cabbage.
- [76:07]
Tas Melis
Some. I want to hear some nice cabbage.
- [76:15]
Trey Kirby
Jesus.
- [76:16]
J. Skeets
Hey, slow down, bro. Holy crap. That makes it more difficult.
- [76:24]
Tas Melis
Who is Vladislav Golden? Religious love.
- [76:32]
J. Skeets
Keep going. I know. Oh, I've nailed that one, baby. I was on that one early. Give me a Drew Smith. Drew Smith.
- [76:40]
Trey Kirby
Drew Smith. Pella Larson. I'd be interested in that one.
- [76:44]
Tas Melis
Okay.
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J. Skeets
Okay.
- [76:46]
Tas Melis
Larson.
- [76:46]
J. Skeets
Yeah.
- [76:53]
Tas Melis
Hoagie is gonna love that. Who just emailed in Swedish pronouncing.
- [76:57]
J. Skeets
We got a meeting coming up here to start planning some summer content for. No doubt. I'm telling you, one stream. We just do this. Just. Just pronoun name pronunciations.
- [77:07]
Tas Melis
This one's pronounced wrong. My Garner. Wow.
- [77:13]
J. Skeets
Wow.
- [77:13]
Tas Melis
That's Myon. Gardner.
- [77:14]
J. Skeets
My Gardner.
- [77:15]
Tas Melis
My Gardner. I mean, that could be. Maybe that's an AI. Maybe somebody.
- [77:22]
Trey Kirby
He's got gravely voice. That's a. That's a Gerald Wallace. He's got.
- [77:26]
J. Skeets
So anyway, what we've learned here is I gotta stop saying. Or a lot of us got to stop saying Khalil.
- [77:30]
Tas Melis
Yeah.
- [77:31]
J. Skeets
And K. That's better. I think that's more Superman. Yeah. I watched a video of him saying his own name, and it was. I think I'm doing it justice with that last one. Kalel.
- [77:42]
Tas Melis
Yeah.
- [77:43]
J. Skeets
Yeah. Okay. Wally. Sga. Mar. Gardner.
- [77:50]
Tas Melis
Mar.
- [77:51]
J. Skeets
Gardner. Serious pronouncing. I'll take a butt light. SGA. Game high. 30 points in Game 2 of the Western Conference Finals. 12:24 from the field. 6 of 6 at the line, 9 assists, 4 boards, 2 blocks, 1 steal. He only committed one turnover, too. 38 minutes of action, making all the right plays. When the double's coming, he's getting off it. He's getting to his spots, rising up. I think he was, was adding a little more, a little more loft to some of these shots with Wemby Roman. Got so great stuff. Great game there from our two time mvp. That's how you bounce back. Was never in doubt. And now we got a best of five in the Western Conference game two of the east finals tonight. Cleveland, New York, how you feeling about this one? Any predictions?
- [78:45]
Tas Melis
I think the New York Knickerbockers will play better. How the Cavs will response? Great question. It's a great question. Yeah.
- [78:52]
J. Skeets
Played well for three quarters, obviously, but Knicks should be better. I think for a majority of the game.
- [78:57]
Trey Kirby
I foresee a Knicks victory.
- [78:59]
J. Skeets
Okay.
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Trey Kirby
Like a formidable victory.
- [79:02]
J. Skeets
Okay.
- [79:02]
Tas Melis
Okay.
- [79:03]
J. Skeets
Well, we'll be talking about it tomorrow on the drop later today. If you are a Survivor fan, season 50 wrapped up last night. So we'll be here at 1 1pm Eastern to recap the final episode of Survivor 50 and the live reunion. That really wasn't a live reunion, but man, did we have an epic Jeff Probs moment. So good in said reunion or whatever you want to call it, the live studio show that they were doing. Tass, did you see this or hear about this news?
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Tas Melis
Well, as soon as you guys started sending messages to each other, I said, oh, I got to see this.
- [79:35]
J. Skeets
He, he, I mean, look, spoil it. He spoiled the finale. A part of the finale that had yet to air. The block of the fire making challenge. He straight up they botched it. And he just like on live television and in front of the studio audience said who lost?
- [79:53]
Trey Kirby
Yeah.
- [79:54]
J. Skeets
And then realized in real time what just happened there. Oh, crap. What did we just do? Amazing.
- [80:00]
Tas Melis
I think he helped out Rizzo. He lowered the expectations because if you were, if you were to go in with to that not knowing, there would have been a lot of ridicule for Rizzo, who has never done fire. Like he hasn't done it once.
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J. Skeets
He can't do it. He's 0 for 2 now.
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Tas Melis
Yeah, I don't. He didn't practice the whole season according to somebody in the jury there.
- [80:21]
J. Skeets
That's right. He's too lazy. Too lazy. Yeah.
- [80:24]
Tas Melis
That guy ain't lazy.
- [80:25]
J. Skeets
Yes, he is.
- [80:25]
Tas Melis
It's my Albanian brother.
- [80:27]
Trey Kirby
Okay.
- [80:28]
J. Skeets
Still lazy. Yeah. I'm not saying.
- [80:35]
Tas Melis
I was just taking his side.
- [80:35]
J. Skeets
Hey, he's great. Survivor.
- [80:36]
Tas Melis
He didn't practice once. That's weird.
- [80:38]
Trey Kirby
Yeah, he practiced right at the end. He was cramming for the final before he had his test.
- [80:43]
Tas Melis
He is my Albanian brother.
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J. Skeets
We're talking Survivor 50, the finale later today at 1pm Link is in the show notes. Come join us for no Buffs. Perfect time to get in because it's wrapping up otherwise. We'll see you here tomorrow for no Dunks with the Drop podcast. Talking about game two of the Eastern Conference finals and a whole lot more. Till then, Clipper Bros, you heard it here first.
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Trey Kirby
Have a great time. Turn up.
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J. Skeets
Love you guys.
- [81:06]
Tas Melis
Awesome. Thanks for joining us. And remember, there was even a car vehicle sighting in Survivor, so if you're interested in that, tune in to no Buffs a little later on.
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J. Skeets
What do you. What do you think of the Toyota Land Cruiser?
- [81:20]
Tas Melis
Well, I just. I love it. I love the shape. I'm not.
- [81:23]
J. Skeets
I love this.
- [81:24]
Tas Melis
I'm not an SUV man.
- [81:25]
J. Skeets
No, you like the shape.
- [81:27]
Tas Melis
Oh, did you see it on the road? Sometimes?
- [81:29]
Trey Kirby
Yeah, it does look pretty good.
- [81:31]
J. Skeets
Yeah, I like it too. I'm not knocking your taste.
- [81:33]
Tas Melis
And the winner. Loved it. I forget her name.
- [81:35]
J. Skeets
Yeah. Now you're just straight up spoiling.
- [81:39]
Tas Melis
I'm spoiling the fact that she liked a car. I mean, nothing. That's not what you're spoiling. That's not what. That's not what I'm spoiling. No. Did I say your name? You've said too much. Way too much. I don't know if I said her name incorrectly.
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J. Skeets
We. We laugh.
- [81:55]
Trey Kirby
She's my sis.
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Tas Melis
She's my sis. What. What season. What season was she. People get up.
- [82:01]
J. Skeets
Just cut. Just cut it.
- [82:01]
Tas Melis
Just literally go, oh, that's her. Yeah. Yeah.
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J. Skeets
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Tas Melis
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