Trae Tossed, Garland & Giannis Return & NBA All-Rookie Teams

Summary

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No Dunks (iHeartPodcasts)

Episode: Trae Tossed, Garland & Giannis Return & NBA All-Rookie Teams

Date: March 3, 2026
Hosts: J. Skeets, Tas Melas, Trey Kirby, JD

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Episode Overview

On this fast-moving episode, the No Dunks crew recaps a wild NBA night featuring the chaos surrounding Trae Young’s ejection before his Wizards debut, key returns for Giannis Antetokounmpo and Darius Garland, rookie developments, and spicy listener mailbag questions. The pod is shot through with typical irreverence, rapid-fire insights, memorable banter, and deep basketball nerdery. Themes include: how team chemistry is shown in unexpected ways, the complexities of NBA lineups and contracts, and the ever-shifting narrative power of NBA rookies.

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Main NBA Recaps & Themes

1. Trae Young Tossed … Before Even Debuting for the Wizards

[03:13-08:45]

• Background:
  The Rockets beat the Wizards 123-118 in a game surprisingly dominated by Trae Young—despite not stepping on the court. Young, days away from his Wizards debut, was ejected for coming off the bench to argue with officials after a hard shove by Tari Eason went unpunished.

  • Skeets: “He was barking at the official, and they said, get out of here, man. Giddy, Trae Young tossed.” (04:45)
  • Tas: “A worthy ejection … if you're coming off the bench wearing a matching sweatsuit … it’s suspension central!” (05:00)

• Discussion Points:

  • Trae's fierce defense of his soon-to-be teammates sent positive signals to Wizards fans and players alike.
    • Trey: “Leaves a positive impression on teammates, big time. He’s got our back. Nobody else out there was fighting, but this guy was.” (05:48)
  • Rumors swirl about a likely 3-year extension ($~140 million) for Trae—despite not having played yet for Washington.
    • Skeets: “It’s quite a contract for someone who hasn’t played … I guess they’re tearing up that player option?” (08:18)
  • The Rockets’ own point guard, Reed Sheppard, notches career highs in assists (10) and steals (6), suggesting a team in flux and testing almost every possible combination due to injuries.

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2. Giannis Returns; Bucks Look Lost Against Short-Handed Celtics

[14:16-20:43]

• Game Recap:
  Giannis returns after his longest absence ever (19 points, 11 boards in 20 minutes), but the Bucks get obliterated by a depleted Celtics squad.

  • Trey: “The Bucks got absolutely stomped by the Celtics here … Giannis did admit: he felt rusty out there.” (14:23)
  • Skeets: “They just destroyed the Bucks on the road…[Celtics had] as many white guys as they could find, plus Hugo Gonzalez, and it wasn’t even close.” (18:10)

• Key Discussion:

  • Skepticism about the Bucks’ rotations. Doc Rivers’ shakeups described as “throwing stuff at the wall”—for example, benching Kyle Kuzma in favor of Usman Jang.
    • Skeets: “That was odd to me…DMP CD for [Kuzma]. See you later. I don’t understand why Doc’s just throwing stuff at the wall at this time of the season.” (19:30)
  • Another Celtics rookie, Hugo Gonzalez, seizes his moment:
    • Trey: “Third career start, but 18 points, 16 boards, three steals, two blocks. First Celtic rookie to do that since Larry Bird!” (20:09)

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3. Darius Garland Debuts for Clippers; Clippers Rally over Warriors

[26:08-29:58]

• Garland’s Performance:
  • 12 points, 5 turnovers off the bench. Looked tentative, mostly launching threes, with three turnovers in his first quarter.
  • Tas: “He was playing not to get hurt … barely going inside the three-point line, rarely in the lane…like bad Darius Garland at the end of Cavs tenure.” (26:08)
  • Skeets: “It was Clippers’ defense in the second half that ratcheted up.” (28:06)
• Also Notable:
  • The bench steps up, with Matherin and Janik Keenan contributing big; much love for Clippers’ orange jerseys.

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4. Jamal Murray and Keonte George Duel: Nuggets Survive Jazz

[31:01-39:56, 74:02-75:29 (Whoaaaa Boy)]

• Game Recap:
  Jamal Murray drops 45 points, including 8-13 from three, in a highlight duel with Jazz rookie Keonte George (36).

  • Trey: “This was playoff Jamal Murray … some of those shots he was hitting were nuts.” (37:41)
  • Concern about Nuggets’ defense, especially quick guards exploiting Jokic and Valanciunas.
    • Tas: “Quick guards are really going to be a problem for them.” (32:24)

• Jokic’s Struggles:

  • Frustration boils over. Multiple “avant garde bullshittery” antics, including riding Keonte George during a box out and excessive lobbying for calls.
    • Skeets: “Jazz are doing exactly what OKC does with Jokic. Small guy, get after him. And Jokic…totally flustered, totally frustrated.” (36:11)

• Notable Segment:

  • “Whoaaaa Boy” (75:29): Jamal Murray earns player-of-the-night honors despite 7 turnovers.

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Key Listener Mailbag & Side Segments

NBA All-Rookie Teams & Rookie of the Year Race

[46:06-53:18]

• Con Knipple vs. Cooper Flagg
  • Intense ROY race discussed, with Knipple taking the favorite’s mantle over Flag due to games played and elite shooting.
    • Trey: “It’s what, 60 games for Knipple? Just under 50 for Cooper…there’s still a debate to be had, but Knipple has the edge.” (47:35-48:06)
  • All-Rookie First Team consensus: Knipple, Flagg, VJ Edgecombe; then lively debate over candidates like Ace Bailey, Dylan Harper, Jeremiah Fears, Ugo Gonzalez, etc.

Team Colors vs. Team Infrastructure (Playful Debates)

[53:20-56:25]

• Listener constructs rosters:
  • Team Colors: Anthony Black, Kobe White, Derrick White, Jalen Green, Jalen Brown
  • Team Infrastructure: Castle, Bridges, Barnes, Barnes, Towns
• Hosts side with Team Infrastructure (“more complete team”) but note Colors’ star power (Brown).

G League Skyhawks Standouts & Obscure NBA Rules**

[57:04-62:50]

• Pod’s G League obsessions:
  • Asa Newell (“already a pro”), Bashir Jihad (“crazy legs!”), plus a deep dive on Julian Reese’s odd Raptors 905 to Wizards jump.
  • Skeets: “Did we just watch the GoGo Wizards? No, that’s not what they’re called, is it?” (62:13)

Fun & Oddball Questions

• Hedging Personal Beliefs (Knicks Fan Anxiety) ([66:55]):
  • Trey admits: “All you can do is believe that the odds are going your way” (for lottery teams).
• Tass’s Top Five NBA Smiles ([71:55]):
  • 1. Steph Curry (“that gold medal smile!”)
  • 2. Peyton Watson
  • 3. Andrew Wiggins
  • 4. Pascal Siakam
  • 5. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Trae Young’s Ejection:
  • Trey: “Maybe it took the official a second to like, hold on. Are you an assistant coach? No. You're Trae Young. Get out of here.” (06:40)
• On Jokic’s Night:
  • Trey: “Somebody called these Jokic antics avant garde bullshittery.” (35:23)
• On Celtics’ Emergency Roster:
  • Skeets: “They were running as many white guys out there as they possibly could … and it wasn’t even close, blew them out.” (18:10)
• On NBA Smiles:
  • Skeets: “Andrew Wiggins smile and I started smiling. It is absolutely contagious.” (72:52)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Time | Topic | |--------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:13-08:45 | Trae Young ejection & Rockets-Wizards recap | | 14:16-20:43 | Giannis’ return, Bucks-Celtics, Hugo Gonzalez rookie breakout | | 26:08-29:58 | Garland’s Clippers debut, Clippers-Warriors recap | | 31:01-39:56 | Nuggets-Jazz duel (Murray vs. Keonte), Jokic’s antics | | 46:06-53:18 | All-Rookie Team debate, Knipple vs. Flagg, deep rookie talk | | 53:20-56:25 | Team Colors vs. Team Infrastructure (listener challenge) | | 57:04-62:50 | G League obsessions, Skyhawks faves, Julian Reese call-up confusion | | 66:55-70:48 | Hedging sports beliefs (Knicks, Bulls, self-doubt in pickup hoops) | | 71:55-74:02 | Top Five NBA Smiles (plus listener additions) | | 74:02-75:29 | 'Whoaaaa Boy'—Jamal Murray earns podcast game ball |

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Additional Highlights

• Nuggets Acquire Tyus Jones ([40:13-41:56]): Solid backup; “steady hand” for emergencies.
• Mailbag Sidebar: British substacker wants to bring the guys snacks at the World Cup (?).
• City Edition Courts: Hosts love the new NBA court designs and jerseys, especially orange for the Clippers and the Bucks’ “Cream City” look ([30:02-30:42]).
• Trade Day: Trey Kirby celebrates March 3 (“3/3”) as Trey Day, rattling off a list of famous Treys for posterity ([42:20-43:47]).

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Tone & Style

Irreverent, fast, playful, and obsessed with the subtle and weird corners of NBA life. The hosts shift deftly from hard analysis (“This was not an enjoyable Jokic watch”—Tas, 35:16) to tongue-in-cheek listener questions, to wholesome gushing over rookie effort and—yes—NBA player smiles.

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For New/Busy Listeners

If you missed this episode, here’s what you need to know:

• Trae Young got ejected in street clothes for passionately supporting his new team, which fans loved.
• Giannis returned, but Milwaukee looked rudderless and confused, especially facing a shorthanded-yet-dominant Celtics squad with a rookie standout.
• Darius Garland’s Clippers debut was rusty, but their deep bench powered a comeback.
• Jamal Murray erupted for 45 points in a tightly contested Nuggets win; Jokic had an “avant garde” off night full of flopping and complaints.
• The Rookie of the Year race is white-hot, with Con Knipple emerging as a favorite over Cooper Flagg, and the first and second All-Rookie teams are wide open beyond those two.
• Mailbag brought signature No Dunks energy: jokes about names, G League nerdiness, and even a militant ranking of NBA smiles.

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[J. Skeets]

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[Trey Kirby]

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[J. Skeets]

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[Trey Kirby]

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[J. Skeets]

As always. Yeah, I got some more in because we kind of mentioned that we're going to do a mailbag today, yesterday. And then they came in, they started firing in. I said, are we going to replace some of the oldies with some of the new goodies next time?

[Tas Melas]

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[Trey Kirby]

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[J. Skeets]

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[Tas Melas]

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[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, it is. Oh, the heat just went off. Good. Nice.

[J. Skeets]

Perfect timing.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Start it over.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

The preamble is. It's done.

[Trey Kirby]

That's right. So before we get to the beach, though, that's later on, let's talk about last night's games, last night's big storylines. We'll start with the Rockets beating the Wizards 123, 118 on Monday night. Shen Goon KD combined for 62 points. But the wildest moment was Trae Young getting ejected from the game after leaving the bench to complain to a referee days before he's expected to make his Wizards debut. That's right, he wasn't playing last night. In theory, that's coming later this week. But he was upset with Tari Eason getting away with a couple shoves and there was no call, so he stepped on the floor. He's barking at the official, and they said, get out of here, man. Giddy Trey Young tossed. And the Wizards, you know, played a competitive game here, but the Rockets took care of business.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, definitely a fun match between these two, I thought. A worthy ejection for Trey Young. He walked down the official continued jawing at him, pointing at him. That gets you technical fouls if you're playing, let alone if you're coming off the bench wearing a matching sweatsuit. So even though this was all Tar Eason's fault, this guy got very upset that he basically got dunked on, you know, as a fast break. And Jameer Watkins found whoever for the dunks and then kind of barked in his face. Tar Eason was feeling some type of way and straight up pushed him down. Oh, yeah, it was good. You know, this is another. Another sort of fight that I approve of here. And I think if I'm a Wizards player, if I'm a Wizards fan, I love this. Trae Young hasn't even stepped on the court yet, and he's already backing our guys. Great stuff.

[Trey Kirby]

Leaves a positive impression on teammates, big time and stuff like that.

[Tas Melas]

He's got our back. Nobody else out there was fighting, but this guy wasn't. He was coming off the bench to do it.

[J. Skeets]

Big time. Fans have something to cheer about. That's our lead guy on a very bad team. And so he's going to lead our team. You could see that. You could see the little spittle on. On his beard as he was so mad he started spitting. But yes, I thought what they did to Tar Eason and not give him a freaking foul for shoving. Yeah. And then a second, one little light one after Watkins. Yeah. Threw that alley oop. And then he got right in Taris's face. He gave a. A stare. But then it took him. Took Taris and like, I don't know, another 10 seconds to shove him. Uh, which was. Yeah. I don't know why they didn't hit up Tar Eason immediately and just say, I mean, a flagrant something instead of just, oh, I mean, flagrant. Yeah. Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Double on that double hand shove. And maybe it wouldn't have led to Trey Young getting tossed, but what a day for Trey. I know it was March 2nd yesterday. Today is Trey Day. Finally March 3rd. But three things yesterday with Trey, really, when you think about it. One, we got the announcement that he is going to return later this week. Okay. Then we had Mark Stein reporting that all signs point to a three year contract extension this summer for Trey and the Wizards Like a part of their near term plans here. And then this happens and he gets tossed. And he was wearing. Yeah. The all white fit, looking like the coaches, I thought for a second, because they were white, wearing their white zips. So he was sort of blending in a little bit. Maybe it took. That's why it took the official a second to like, hold on. Are you this guy? Are you an assistant coach? No. You're Trae Young. Get out of here. But yeah, an active day there for Trey Young.

[Tas Melas]

Active, active day. And I'm looking forward to seeing them play. You know, I guess we've gotten. The Jazz got fined, the Pacers got fined. There's been a lot of talk of the NBA examining injuries to see whether or not they're worthy. Trae Young hasn't played in months at this point with things that probably wouldn't keep him out if this was a playoff push for the Washington Wizards or if he was still an Atlanta Hawks. So it's going to be cool to see him back on the court in

[J. Skeets]

a uniform since he hasn't played. The question is how much is this three year extension for if he does sign it? That's the very intriguing part.

[Trey Kirby]

I think Stein was saying. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah, yeah. Something around that. I thought it was in the 40 million per sort of mark. So maybe even less is what he's hypothesizing here.

[J. Skeets]

It's quite a contract for 140mil for someone who hasn't played, who hasn't. They haven't even seen how he's pl. He would play with them. I guess they're just tearing up that player option for next season, I imagine, because he has a player option next year for 48 mil.

[Trey Kirby]

Right.

[J. Skeets]

If I'm not mistaken. Yeah, It's. It's almost 49 mil. And would be saying, here's another three years, Trey. Now it kind of works out with the.

[Trey Kirby]

Less.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

40 on the season.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, 45.

[Tas Melas]

If.

[Trey Kirby]

If that is true, that report. Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. It's not a lot less. I mean, what, 46, 46.6666 if it's 140 mil. That being said, it works out with this very, very young team in that they aren't paying many people at all other than Anthony Davis.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. The AD part is funny, but yes.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. Who's under contract for two years. On the other side, the point guard, Reed shepherd was the interesting part. I mean, he's starting ever since we were questioning whether or not IME Udoka would give this Guy the keys, because they seem to need somebody at the end of games. And Reed shepherd has not gotten the start many times, but he started now two games in a row, three of four. He had a career high 10 assists in this one. He had a career high six steals in this one. It looks like a different team when he's out there. And that's definitely gonna happen against the Washington Wizards. So not not to say that this was a monster, a monumental win, because it was not a monumental win. It was double digits in with a minute left. And then it turned into a somewhat close game as the Wizards went on their little run. But we'll see if Imodoka sticks with it. And maybe IME Udoka can change because we've always.

[Trey Kirby]

People can change.

[J. Skeets]

Yes, people. That's the only piece of shit he did right.

[Tas Melas]

That's why I got fired from Boston.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

But yeah, I wonder if Reed shepherd will stay in the starting lineup because he's basically out there. Because Jabari Smith Jr. Is out with an injury. I think it's smart to have him there. But more than likely he becomes a situational guy because you see him like sticking Keyshawn George last night, and he comes up to Keyshawn George's waist, it feels like he's very small. But we know Udoka favors the defensive side of the ball. And Reed is going to be somebody that teams go at defensively. But he's a good playmaker. He's got really good hands. He's getting in the passing lanes. He's not like picking pockets. But if somebody's making a telegraph pass, he's going to be able to get a steal. I like him out there for sure. For this Rockets team that needs somebody who will bomb away from three. He's really good with hit ahead passes as well. He just kind of makes them play a little bit faster and a little bit more cohesive. So I'm sure that Udoka will go back to Jabari Smith, but I don't know if it'll be a guaranteed that he starts every game going forward either. Reed shepherd should get a chance a little bit.

[J. Skeets]

Well, the key is the end of games, really. Is he gonna play at the end of games? Cause he can come off the bench. But the key is last six minutes. What is happening with this Rockets team? They just seem like a standalone type of team that just doesn't have a guy who makes it happen. So that's the key. But he can get burned on the other end, so there's no doubt. But you could see Alper and Shen Love playing with this guy yesterday. Set him up three. Yeah. So that's something to watch again, in clutch time is more important than starting. But tbd. And you mentioned the injury to Jabari Smith. I meant Thompson also left this game with an ankle injury. So, you know, stuff is happening. When's Fred coming back? I can't stop talking about Fred.

[Tas Melas]

I've never heard anybody else talk about it.

[Trey Kirby]

I was gonna say, man, what about Fred? Sort of cricket.

[Tas Melas]

Not even Fred.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Is he coming back? I don't know.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, I don't think so.

[Tas Melas]

He got hurt right before the season. That'd be a really quick Turnaround.

[Trey Kirby]

People think TAS has, like, a massive bet on FanDuel prediction market on Fredo, because you are the only one or not the only one, but you are every day here saying, is he coming back? When's he coming back? Feels like he's coming back. I watched the clip of him talking.

[J. Skeets]

Feels like, you know, I don't talk about crickets. Otherwise, if there's a bet on. On predictor. How many days I talk about Fred Van Bleet. Bet the under on every day. Because it's not every day, but okay.

[Trey Kirby]

But bet the over compared to everyone else.

[J. Skeets]

Don't bet on Fred Van Vliet coming back. Betting. Betting is. No, because betting on predictors.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

[J. Skeets]

Just strange. But bet on Tatum coming back. He's coming back.

[Trey Kirby]

The rockets are 38 and 22, by the way. This is a good record. They're an elite team on both sides of the floor. I think they're top seven offensively, top six defensively, really good net rating. It's just a funny team here. They've jumped into third place now in the Western Conference standings. They're, I guess, a half a game game up on the Timberwolves, who are in fourth there. And they basically have identical records. But one more loss for the Wolves. But, yeah, it's just strange. Like, they are a good team, but no one has a lot of confidence in them here because maybe vibes and sort of like this slow play and is that going to work in the postseason? But when all their guys come through like they did last night, their main guys that were playing like kd, Changun Reed, like, they look damn good. They do. They are a good team. I can see why people have reservations in playoff series, though, moving forward.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, big time. They've got a lot of good players, but, like, I think since December 1st, there may be 12th in offense, 10th in defense, which is good, but it's not elite, you know. And if they get the right matchup, a team that doesn't have as high powered of an offense that can get strangled out by all the size they throw out there, that gets beat on the glass the same way the Wizards did last night, that'll play to the Rockets advantage. Unfortunately for them. A lot of big teams in the Western Conference who can kind of match them from a physicality standpoint, who do

[Trey Kirby]

you think they would want to play in a first round series? If you're the Houston Rockets, like a realistic 3, 6 or 4, 5 sort of matchup, do they want to play the Wolves, the Nuggets, the Lakers, the Suns? I mean, that's probably who it's going to be. One of those teams.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, they want to fight with the Suns. I think they'd love to do that fight against Dillon Brooks one more time. I think they, I think they like the size matchup of that one.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

You agree with that?

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. I mean the Suns are the worst team of those, so that's who they would choose number one. But Lakers, I think of the teams that are gunning for the sixth seed, I think would be the matchup just because they feel pretty soft inside.

[Trey Kirby]

Let's go to Giannis returning last night. Your guy speaking of prediction markets, Yanis is back.

[J. Skeets]

Did you bet on that on Kalsi?

[Trey Kirby]

No, I did not. I did not. He scored 19 in his return. But the Bucks got absolutely stomped by the Celtics here and we can get into how they look Boston. But you know, Giannis did admit tasks. He, he felt rusty out there. This was the longest injury related absence of Giannis's career. 19 points, 11 boards, 2 assists in defeat. Any thoughts?

[J. Skeets]

I didn't understand what Doc Rivers was doing starting Usman Jang, putting Ryan Rollins to the bench. This starting lineup played for the first time with the Milwaukee Bucks this season. It was all sort of strange. They went on their little run. It was. They won eight of 10 games and they did come off two losses. But I didn't really understand putting Ryan Rollins to the bench. I mean, I get it, you want a wing in Usman Jang because they have no wings and you have three guards out there in Ryan Rollins, Kevin Porter Jr. And A.J. green and you gotta cut one. But it really was puzzling to me and that's why I thought that. The Celtics got up 10 immediately. They lost the first quarter by 10. They were just being outworked. And Ryan Rollins is going to work. He's going to set guys up. That. That whole first quarter was puzzling to me against the Celtics team that was playing five games and seven nights. No Jalen Brown, no Namish Keita, still no Jason Tatum. That whole thing was totally strange. And in off the bench Kyle Kuzma DMP CD in this one, as they're just throwing stuff at the wall to see if they. Is it trying to please Yanis De Gumpo by saying, see this Usman Jane guy that you have chemistry with? He is our next wing. It's. It's all sort of puzzling. They threw Gary Harris in there instead of Kyle Kuzma. He ain't fighting over a screen. He ain't fighting over everything. It was just open three. So they got destroyed immediately. Listen, Usman Jang was fun. He's hitting threes. He's coming around that wheel and hitting threes, sure. But Ugo Gonzalez was my guy watching on the other side. They were just outworking the Milwaukee Bucks. So a terrible. Yeah, the Giannis returning is a story, but really the overall, the whole thing was just up for the Milwaukee Bucks. And yeah, they've lost three in a row after that eight and two run. But I just don't understand. Yeah, the Knicks. Fine. It's fine to get blown up by the Knicks with the Bulls. That was a bad one. And now this. This one.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Bobby Portis called that. That little stretch there where they did win eight of 11 games, I think it was in February. Called it Fool's Gold. For real.

[Tas Melas]

So we started playing great teams like the Chicago bu.

[J. Skeets]

Yes, that's right.

[Trey Kirby]

Right. That's right. Couldn't believe that. But at one point we were playing against teams that were basically tanking and not good teams. And now we play somewhat solid teams maybe besides the Bulls, and we're getting waxed here. So he's like, we're not good.

[J. Skeets]

I didn't understand changing it up. That was odd to me. But anyway.

[Trey Kirby]

Thoughts on Celtics crushing Giannis's return?

[Tas Melas]

Well, I thought Giannis looked pretty decent for his longest layoff that he had. He played through contact the way he always does. His first basket look like one I've seen a million times. Putting Vuja into the hoop, finishing over the top. I think he had set. How many baskets did he end up making last night? Seven baskets. I think six of them were dunks. Another one was a layup. He didn't make a jump shot. He was having trouble finishing tougher layups like in a half court scenario. He wasn't really able to elevate necessarily the same way he was. He didn't hit any of his fade aways, but when he was able to run, he was looking like Giannis out there. So, I mean, I think encouraging that he didn't get hurt. That's good. But they're three and a half games out of the 10th seed right now. They're chasing the Hornets and the Hawks and they got completely smoked by the Celtics second unit. Like they were running as many white guys out there as they possibly could. And Hugo Gonzalez, and it wasn't even close, blew him out in the second half. And it was the same way. The Bucs have been losing all season. They gave up 19 offensive rebounds. They turned the ball over 16 times. They got out shot from three. They're going to need more than 20 minutes from Giannis per game if they're going to make any sort of a run into the play in tournament. But I don't know. I'm not very optimistic on Milwaukee for the second half of the season or the last third of the season here, but I don't know. I saw that Giannis was going to be debuting his new Nikes and I was literally shocked that he was taking the court again. But yeah, they look good.

[Trey Kirby]

They do look good.

[Tas Melas]

The Freak 8 looks nice.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Is that what we're up to?

[Tas Melas]

Freak 8, freak 8?

[J. Skeets]

Those are the pink ones.

[Tas Melas]

Those are the pinks, yeah.

[J. Skeets]

They look good.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. You do start to wonder, is that part of the reason why he's out there? I did, too. He didn't even want to discuss Giannis, like, is asked about it. Like, hey, let's talk about the Bucks playoff chances here. You know, What'd you say? Three and a half back from playing. He didn't want to talk about it. He's like, oh, he's just reiterating. I'm just happy to be back on the court, you know, finding my rhythm, focusing on that. It's like, okay, yes, but what about actually playing and trying to get in there? But he didn't want to talk about it. But you're right. Joe's starting lineup, White, Gonzalez, Scheierman, Hauser and Vuchovic. As many people are pointing out, the all white lineup with Derek White in there, first time they've ever seen the floor together. He's five. And they just destroyed the Bucks on the road.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, Baylor Shireman a plus six, but everybody else plus double digits. They just. They destroyed him.

[Trey Kirby]

They did. Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

We're talking about Vuch at center and literally getting destroyed on the offensive Glass Big part of that was Hugo Gonzalez but. But five games in seven days the Celtics were playing. And again the little insertions. Kyle Guzma sitting. I thought he has been playing fairly well this season in his role. He hasn't gone into that mid range doing that type of thing. DMP CD for that guy. See you later. I don't understand why Doc just throwing stuff at the wall at this time of the season. It doesn't really make sense to me. Effort wise. Just here's the new Usman Jang new starter with this new lineup. I didn't get it whatsoever. And you could see by the effort level it just wasn't there.

[Trey Kirby]

So a night after Keita had his career night against Sixers, it was Gonzalez here in this one you brought it up. His third career start, but 18.16 boards, three steals and two blocks. Apparently he was the first Celtics rookie to have a stat line like that since Larry Bird. So that's how good Gonzalez was looking last night. And I bring him up because in beach stepping later we do have a question about all rookie teams. Did he do enough last night to crack track an all rookie second team? We'll debate that later. Yeah, this guy, great timing by him.

[J. Skeets]

This guy averages 4 points per game this season. But I think I've talked about him more than I've talked about Fred Van Vliet this season. I love watching him. Literally he had a put back dunk in the first minute and then another put back dunk two minutes later than that. The cat was just getting after. That's what he does.

[Trey Kirby]

Plays his ass off.

[J. Skeets]

He just turned 20. He's a young, young boy. But. But I would say any team would easily accept him, put them into their rotation. Any team in the NBA.

[Trey Kirby]

According to Celtics stats, it was the seventh time the Celtics have won a game on the road by 20 plus points and 13th time this season. So they're taking care of business on the road. Even missing a bunch of guys and just destroy Milwaukee.

[Tas Melas]

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[Tas Melas]

This was a really weird looking game. Orange versus Tan on a brown court. Incredibly autumnal out there. I thought Garland looked really tentative. Seven of his nine shots were three point attempts. He got a tip in in transition where he threw a weird lob to Kawhi Leonard. He's like I was trying to test his athleticism, see if he still got it. It got tipped back to him and he made the shot. So basically a wide open layup and they had a little pull up at the free throw line. To me he was playing not to get hurt. I guess he got popped in the face in this one. Diving on the side with Moses Muzi. Took a shoulder to the face. We know Garland has had face problems in the past five turnovers. Like you said Skeets, three of them came right away. Seem to be surprised that the warriors were blitzing him on pick and rolls. They're like, he's like hey man, I just Got Peck easily. So, you know, the Clippers made a smart move and we're just giving him a single pick at the top and letting him work a little bit easily, more easily in the second half. But yeah, he was barely going inside the three point line, rarely in the lane. Look like bad Darius Garland that we'd seen at the end of his Cavaliers tenure when he's just trying to stay healthy rather than the downhill setup guy. Sure, that is him at his peak.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, I was odd, you know, three turnovers in the first quarter for him. It was a tale of two halves really for both teams. Watching Brandon Pajemski, this might be the Brandon Pajemski night. 20 points in the first half cooking. This team was up double digits at half. Then everything went awry. Brandon Pajemski only two points in the second half. The entire team, really, the starting lineup. There's only one guy who had more than one bucket in the second half. They shot 32%. Porzing is still not playing that whole thing. Strange scenario how they haven't been extremely clear about him with pots. They just haven't been talking about it either way. Yeah, terrible second half again after being up double digits.

[Trey Kirby]

But.

[J. Skeets]

But that being said, it was the Clippers defense that ratcheted up for the second half. And Garland looked better in the second half. Just needed a quick rest in the locker room. He looked like a different player.

[Trey Kirby]

Yannick at the disco. Is that a nickname?

[Tas Melas]

I don't know, but I did hear Noah Eagle call him Yannick Keenan Noterhauser last night. Like, you gotta be a sicko to know if that's a mispronunciation.

[Trey Kirby]

Yes, yes.

[Tas Melas]

Janet Keenan.

[Trey Kirby]

There's a lot of syllables to get right there, but he had a good game. I bring him up because 11 points, nine boards, two steals, four blocks. So six stocks for him. He's obviously an energetic big.

[Tas Melas]

He's huge.

[Trey Kirby]

He is big. Exactly. A big Swiss guy. So, you know, is it a part of the equation, though, in moving off of Zubots and it was like too good to turn down with the draft capital and Benedict Matheran, who had a solid game off the bench. But then you sort of have some confidence in this guy being able to slot in there. I think that's a part of the equation moving forward for them. And I love their orange jerseys. I've said this before. This should be their permanent look, in my opinion. I think it looks great. I think it's unique. Obviously has the Buffalo Braves angle to it, so I'm a fan of them. Even though, yeah, it does look a little weird on that, on that warriors court, that Brown court or whatever you want to call it.

[Tas Melas]

If you didn't know, you would not know that was a Clippers versus warriors game.

[Trey Kirby]

No, no, no.

[Tas Melas]

But the bench was awesome. I thought for the Clippers, you know, I think the warriors only had 10 guys available. All of them were playing. So when it was garbage time, it was the same guys that had been playing in the third quarter. And it was just a turnover fest for Golden State. We talked about it yesterday. Unless they have a player have an outlier game, offense is a real struggle for them right now. You know, if Pajemski is your number one option, there are going to be some good moments and there are going to be a lot of fallow stretches as well. But Matheran was good, Janik was really good. And then Kobe and Jordan combined to score 20 points. They should be playing that up more. They got a guy named Kobe and

[Trey Kirby]

a guy named Jordan.

[Tas Melas]

Like play and do guard stuff.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, it's a good point. Anything else from that one, we'll go to the final.

[J. Skeets]

I, I will just say overall, the City Edition courts, they're so nice. I, I, I don't think it's our biased or my bias because I watch basketball every night and it's nice to see something a little fresh because I know some people hate it. Let's get some traditional courts out. Let's get some traditional jerseys. I don't want that orange jersey. I don't want that brown thing. But overall, that court, I thought the Bucks cream city court where they've got that whole pattern going on inside the arc. I love them. In comparison to the, the altered NBA cup courts, I should say, like, they're way better.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

Just overall, overall, I like basketball. I like watching basketball on nice courts. Simple as that.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, you maybe enjoyed this last game. Then Jamal Murray went for 45 points to help the Nuggets beat the Jazz. 128. 125. Trey Kirby, I'm sure you popped this morning when you saw on the NBA YouTube page, Elite Guard Duel.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, wow.

[Trey Kirby]

Epic. Down the middle of the thumbnail.

[Tas Melas]

I watched it live. I was, I was loving Jazz versus Nuggets. I was pulling for the Jazz so hard. And yeah, it was fun to watch. Keonte George and Jamal Murray basically go bucket for bucket. Little concerning, though, for the Nuggets. We've talked a lot about how they've been struggling since Nicola Jokic's return. And last night they just could not Get a stop down the stretch. The Jazz at one point in the fourth quarter had eight straight makes. I think they ended up doing a 9 for 10 sort of deal. Keonte George scored 10 straight at one point. Now, Murray did hit some big shots as well for the Nuggets, but the defense was really concerning because a lot of it was Valentunas out there. They would put Christian Brown and Valanchunas into an action and Keonte George would just run around both of them. He was out quicking the guard and the big there. And then once Jokic comes back in, same exact thing was happening. Sometimes it was the other Brown, Bruce trying to stick Keonte George. So to me, that was just showing that the Nuggets really have something to worry about because the big man's not going to stop anything at the rim. Whether it's Valentunas or Jokic, they might get a steal, but in general they can get beat to the spot. And without Peyton Watson there, the Nuggets don't have a great point of attack defender. They don't have a lot of quickness on the perimeter. We'll talk about Tyus Jones here in a second. I don't think he's going to be the stopper as well. So quick guards are really going to be a problem for them.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, there's no doubt. You go back to 23, they're one of the rare teams that doesn't have a good defense but still can win and win the entire thing because of how good their offense is. But they do have to pick it up. There's no doubt Aaron Gordon is the heart of that and he is expected to come back very, very soon and maybe this week. Right, right. And hopefully Peyton Watson also joins up just to be sort of a secondary type of guy because they could just sort of rely on him. But yeah, they. They are. Should definitely be worried. Should we be worried about Nikola Jokic not looking quite like the best player in the world?

[Trey Kirby]

He was frustrated last night by the scrappy defensive guards that Will Hardy and the Jazz were throwing at him. Yeah, you know, Harkless on him. They were going small on him and it was really frustrating him to the point where I'm sure a lot of you have seen the clip by now. We had Keonte George boxing out Jokic on one particular play, and this is the baseline camera angle. And Jokic is just gonna like, jump on his back like he's a horse and he's like trying to ride him. And then eventually Keante George just like collapses to the ground because he's carrying, you know, Jokic's weight on his back. Like, nothing is called on this play. It's one of these just, like, what the hell is going on? But the timing of it after the hole, Lou Dort and Jokic and whether he was embellishing and that, you know, nonsense, then this follows up TK with Jokic. And if you're a Jokic hater, I guess you're like, hey, see, like, what? This guy's just flopping around, doing the craziest shit out there.

[Tas Melas]

Yes, he was. It was all antics from Jokic. I thought he was mentally taken out of the game by the Jazz, like you're saying. I mean, I guess they had Shibway banging with him a little bit, but in general, it was like Conchar Ace Bailey, Harkless, Harkless. Just getting into him, getting underneath his skin and then having, you know, the help there and throwing a lot of guys at him. He was. It just felt like all bits from Nikola Jokic out there. He did the get on a guy's back thorough. Bailey dropped a. Should have brought a saddle, bro. That was pretty funny. He did that multiple times.

[Trey Kirby]

Yes, yes.

[Tas Melas]

And you saw him, like, when he was catching the ball. He's just trying to draw a foul. He was not trying to get a shot up. He was just come and hit me so that we can restart the possession and I can go to the free throw line. Even when he got fouled at the corner to take his last couple of free throws, held the pose there, trying to say I was shooting a three pointer. Like we just talked about, guys never get that call right.

[J. Skeets]

Right.

[Tas Melas]

I still don't know how it happened in the Cavs game, but it did. But, yeah, he. To me, that. That to me felt like a Luka Doncic game. The way he was complaining to the referees, the way he was so concerned with the physicality from the Jazz. And the Jazz broadcast was disgusted with this guy for the entirety of the game. We had Craig Bolajack calling thorough t the entire time. At one point, Jokic flops on. Maybe it was Harkless. I gave him a little pop. Sniper in the building.

[Trey Kirby]

Come on.

[Tas Melas]

He's the biggest, strongest dude out there, and he's fallen all over the place and just trying to lay on guys. This was not an enjoyable Jokic watch.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Somebody called these Jokic antics avant garde bullshittery.

[Tas Melas]

Sure.

[Trey Kirby]

And I was like, whoa, yeah, that's good. He's trying things here. Comparisons to Luka Doncic. I also sometimes See a lot of comparisons to Chris Paul in Jokic, where he's just trying to, like, completely game everything. Yes. In terms of every embellishment and every maybe rule. And.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

There's a lot of contact and, like, look, I know. I'm sure he gets frustrated. He's a giant dude. You see the scars all over him. I get that. But, like, he's just. He's not playing ball at time. And you're like, man, you are elite. Stop this crap. But avant garde bullshittery made me laugh there, because that play in particular, whatever the hell that was, where he's swimming on George's back. Like, I don't even know what he's trying to do there, really, like. Because Keanu George did nothing wrong there.

[J. Skeets]

No, no, he's boxing out.

[Trey Kirby]

He boxed him out.

[Tas Melas]

Yes.

[Trey Kirby]

And then he started collapsing over the. The weight of the guy on his back. He.

[J. Skeets]

I. I gotta give a head nod to Keonte George for not collapsing and not getting injured with a guy on his back like that. This was his second game back after an ankle injury. You watch that and you could see an ankle collapsing under there. He handled it no problem. Like, he's in the world's strongest man competition. Literally, it looked like he had a monster boulder on his back, and he just handled it really well. The Jazz are doing exactly what OKC does with Jokic. Small guy. Get after him. Go get him. And Jokic, he's. He's totally flustered, totally frustrated. It ain't him that we know and love. It's more like Strahinia Jokic, his brother, like, just mad. Four fouls in the third quarter for Nikola Jokic. That's never been done, I'm sure. And I ain't gonna check how many fouls he's had in a quarter, but that sure felt like the. The angriest we've seen him. That being said, he's playing with the best version of Jamal Murray of his NBA career. Jamal Murray is having his best regular season, and that helps. That helps them with all these injuries happening. And so he drops 45.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, my God, that was playoff Jamal Murray right there last night. Some of those shots he was hitting were nuts. And, and it honestly, like with Keonte George sort of matching Jamal Murray, it had sort of shades of like a 2020 playoffs matchup between these two squads. It wasn't Keonte George, it was Donovan Mitchell, but we saw some. Some high scoring affairs between those two guys. Counte George was playing that role last night.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, that guy had 10 straight for the jazz at one point. So 45 versus 36. Worthy of an elite slash duel. Whatever you want to.

[Trey Kirby]

Whatever. The YouTube guard duel is what they called it.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, I mean, Jamal Murray, it was perfect. Inside the arc, 8 of 13 from 3. Like, just. He's playing his best ball. They sit Cam Johnson in this one. I. I speak of every, you know, every nugget that needs to be good to help them win a championship. He sits back to backs. Well, the one part of back to back. So he hasn't been right. Especially the. My. My excuse is always he hasn't been healthy the entire year, but at the same time, he's got to get better. Hopefully Aaron Gordon just comes back and solves everything, and Cam Johnson is more in his fourth man role and everything is back to normal.

[Trey Kirby]

This was a close game, obviously. Keonte George drove to the basket, down one with like 30 seconds to go. He was fouled by Jokic. They called the foul on the play. David Adelman challenged it. They looked at it and they. They overturned it after review, giving possession to the Nuggets. And then it was like, obviously I thought the Jazz let too much time go off the clock before they finally got the foul. But that was a huge, obviously overturned call, one that I thought was a little shocking. I thought there was a bump from Jokic enough to warrant it. TK Were you surprised by that or. I don't know if you just. Did you stay up to the end for that one? Of course. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

I love a. I love a Mountain time game. You can stay up late.

[Trey Kirby]

It's not too bad. You're right. Yeah, you're right.

[Tas Melas]

Too late. But, yeah, I mean, I was a little surprised it got overturned just because Jokic did have. I guess it was probably his left hand, like, down at George's waist when he went up, but I thought it was pretty marginal contact. I'm only surprised that they overturned it because they called it live. Like, I thought that either call would have stayed the way it was, but he got his hand on the ball, so can't complain about that. Yeah. And Keonto George had a good look on the three point shot as well. He rushed it because surely the Nuggets would be trying to foul in that situation. So he came, caught the ball in the left wing, jumped up, flopped his legs around, and tried to draw a foul as well. And it was just a little bit awesome.

[Trey Kirby]

It almost went. Yeah, it almost went. Entertaining game. I mean, this is one you see on the schedule. You're like, oh, this will be a 25 point blowout probably with who maybe the Jazz are rolling out there and stuff like that. But competitive in the end.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. And great to watch.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

I just thought the court looked great. Prettiest court of the night.

[Tas Melas]

Do you think that Jazz court's great?

[Trey Kirby]

Love the purple. I don't love the. Just the note logo. It's so sparse, I find. But I love that purple in the. Yeah, the paint and stuff like that.

[J. Skeets]

It is wonderful.

[Trey Kirby]

The Nuggets did add. You brought it up there. TK some depth with veteran point guard Tyus Jones. So he will be added to the Nugget squad. It sounds like this does not move the needle much for you, but what do you think?

[Tas Melas]

I actually like it like as an emergency guy. I think that Jalen Pickett to me has done enough to be first in line as a. Like almost the third string point guard, if we're being realistic. Because I guess Bruce Brown is kind of like their second unit guy though he plays a lot with Murray. But it's not bad to have a trustworthy backup in Tyus Jones. He hasn't been a good playoff player at all in his career. 37% from the field, 31 from three. Doesn't look to shoot very, very small. But like if they need a change up from Pickett or if Adelman's not trusting him, sure, give him a chance.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. Ideally they would have gotten somebody at a higher level. I always thought the possibility of plucking IO dsumu was perfect for them. And that exactly what he is. I mean, it's a secondary third point guard really. Because not only do they have Bruce Brown, but Aaron Gordon comes in and runs the second unit. It's kind of like what they had with Reggie Jackson in the 23 championship run. If we need a guy to play five minutes here he is.

[Trey Kirby]

Right.

[J. Skeets]

And that's what he is. And that's what Reggie Jackson did. And Tyus Jones can do that. This is definitely his worst season of his career. Yes, last year he was way better, but just a steady hand.

[Trey Kirby]

Tyus Jones never hurts you, but sometimes just does.

[J. Skeets]

This year he kind of hurts. This year.

[Trey Kirby]

Well, yeah, he has shoot it all, but you know, he doesn't turn the ball over. Never turns it over. So he just doesn't take risky we've talked about.

[Tas Melas]

He just swings it around.

[Trey Kirby]

Exactly. So I mean my point is that hurting you that way at least he's not like, oh, you're trying to force things. Maybe you'd like him to actually force some action every Once in a while, but yeah. Okay, so you guys don't mind it. Nice little ad there from the Nuggets as they try and get things going here. With what, six weeks to go for the regular season is over. Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll hit the beach.

[Tas Melas]

Happy Trey Day. Finally. If you celebrate 33 like I do and like I always have for my entire life, then here are a list of notable trays who deserve your admiration. Trae Young, Trey Anastasio, Trey flowers, Ken Griffey Jr. S son, Trey Griffey, Trey Kennedy, Trey Lyles, and Trey Burke, both of whom I went head to head with in Trey vs Trey matchups at Summer League. Trey McBride, Trey Murphy III, Trey Parker, Trey Turner, Trey Wingo, Trey Songz, and of course, Trey Podcasts. That's my new name.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, okay.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. As you know, it's time for the Super Trey Day sweepstakes. Fanduel is all about those three pointer moments. And on March 3, 3 3, you'll have your own shot at a big win from downtown. Place a three point wager and you'll be entered to win a share of over $3.3 million in bonus bets. Download the Sportsbook app now to claim your profit boost.

[J. Skeets]

To enter, I need to add Trey Scott iii.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, thank you. Now, a big time oversight for me,

[J. Skeets]

Dennis Scott, naming his son Trey, because, you know, he was a three point shooter. He had to.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah. He simply had to. Trey Scott. I used to be taller than him, and now he's taller than me.

[Trey Kirby]

Damn. That's crazy.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Remember he was just a boy. Yeah, he was.

[Tas Melas]

And now he's a man.

[Trey Kirby]

He's a Hooper, too.

[Tas Melas]

I mean, is he a Georgia State fella? Is that where he ended up going?

[J. Skeets]

Correct. Correct. Correct.

[Tas Melas]

I wonder if he's got a game today on trade A. It is college basketball season, right?

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

He's a lefty.

[J. Skeets]

He's a lefty, too, right? I think. I don't remember.

[Tas Melas]

I don't know.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Speaking of college basketball, though, just because we just talked about it, did you see the. The free throw wedgie?

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

In a college game last night, right after we talked about it. That's a legit free throw wedgie.

[J. Skeets]

Clean. That was clean.

[Trey Kirby]

Damn.

[J. Skeets]

It just got stuck. Sometimes we've seen a rim way up. Yeah. Bounce way up, drop in, but that was just clean. Straight up.

[Trey Kirby]

Incredible shot. All right, let's hit the beach to answer a few of your questions. Let's go to the beach. It's the only place to Read your email and your tweets and your comments and your sub stack messages and your IGs and all that fun stuff. We got some good ones here. Thanks everybody that sent a cue in. Like Tess said, if we didn't get to it here or we don't get to it today, maybe next time when we hit the beach. If it's ever green enough. That's the thing.

[J. Skeets]

They're solid. They're solid.

[Trey Kirby]

Solid evergreen batch.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, there's gonna live forever.

[Trey Kirby]

All right.

[J. Skeets]

And my labeled mail bag. Oh, nice of my email inbox. Yeah, it's still. Still there.

[Trey Kirby]

You gotta call. You got a color tab on that.

[J. Skeets]

There's no colors. I don't color it. Color them in the Gmails.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, for sure. Oh, you know, labels is what I'm saying.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. Oh, labels.

[Trey Kirby]

Do you add a color?

[J. Skeets]

No colors.

[Trey Kirby]

Fascinating.

[J. Skeets]

That's got a name. It's got a name.

[Trey Kirby]

Out of color. Add a green, please. If they're evergreen out of green.

[J. Skeets]

The one that's the most evergreen has really nothing to do with mailbag. Like questions for us. It's a gentleman who will be coming to Atlanta to watch World cup soccer games from Britain who wants to bring us some British treats.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, excellent.

[J. Skeets]

So I don't know, we're gonna have him here. He's gonna. He's gonna show up and bring us some treats. Hasn't been organized yet, but.

[Trey Kirby]

All right, well, we got some time

[J. Skeets]

that's really, really interesting for everybody out there.

[Trey Kirby]

Very interesting. All right, let's get to our first question here. This one's from Jerry Tass's bold prediction might be coming true. No, I'm not talking about y'.

[J. Skeets]

All.

[Trey Kirby]

Hornet sharpshooter Con Knippel is the new favorite to win NBA Rookie of the Year, taking the lead from his former Duke roommate, Cooper Flay. Knipple is as low as -170 on FanDuel to win Rookie of the year. Flag is plus 135. Great race. Either guy will be deserving. But let's zoom out. Says Jerry, who's on your NBA all rookie teams. So, yeah, Knipple is now the favorite.

[J. Skeets]

Amazing.

[Trey Kirby]

It's. Yeah. Looking very likely that he is going to win this. And that was one of your predictions. Bold predictions at the, I guess end of the calendar year, if I remember correct.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, Jerry specifically. I thought Cooper was slowing down a little bit. He was. Had a bad couple games. But I also thought Kyrie was coming back. So I was wrong about that. Thinking that maybe Kyrie and his possessions would take away a little bit from Cooper, but, you know, Kyrie's sitting the rest of the season. So I was wrong and I was right all at the same time. Maybe. We'll. We'll see. It's funny because Cooper's left foot is hurt right now and they're keeping him out of games, but are they keeping him out of more games just because they want to lose at the same time? It's Cooper Flag playing on a very bad team. How many more games are they going to win because Cooper Flag is playing? So that's the interesting part. Cooper Flag could easily win this thing and I think he is currently second in odds because. Well, it's because he's not playing right now, I think because he could come back tomorrow and all of a sudden he would probably be the favorite if he was playing games, I would think.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's what, 60 games for Knipple? I think. I think it's just under 50 for Cooper. So a 10 game difference right now. 11 game difference right now. Yeah, yeah. Look, I think. I think it would still be a fun debate if both guys have played the exact same amount of games. Like whatever, 55 or 60 games, the exact same. There's still a debate to be had, but it's looking more and more likely with Knipple is going to have probably the games played on him on a better team too. Usually doesn't matter with rookie of the year, but he's also just been elite. Like the efficiency numbers he's putting up as a rook.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, it's going to be a really good race. Like if you called it right now, it's like a 50, 50 vote. It really feels like. Because I think Cooper has proven that he is a number one guy and he does more on the court than Khan does. But Khan is not just a shooter and he's playing on a winning team and he is an elite shooter and it feels like he's getting better now. I do feel like a little bit of Khan's success is that he gets to play with better players than Cooper Flag does. Cooper does everything for the Mavs and Khan is definitely enjoying the advantages of playing with a guy like Lamelo Ball who's a great passer and has become a more unselfish player this year. You can see the difference in the stats when Lamelo is playing with Khan versus when he's off. Khan's an awesome play finisher and he's been one of the best. He's a great loose ball guy. He does Everything out there. He's definitely got some Klay Thompson vibes to him going forward. So I hope Cooper does play a little bit more this season. So it's pretty even minutes played wise. I think, like, Khan's ahead by 250 minutes at this point right now, which is, I guess, for about as many minutes as they play, you know, like eight to 10 games, that sort of thing. But, yeah, it's exciting. I just taught my girls about Con Canipple because they were punching each other in their chest. So I said, oh, the con canipple.

[J. Skeets]

They're like, what?

[Tas Melas]

I was like, there's literally a guy named Concanipple. So they've been calling me that, of course, nonstop for, like, two straight weeks.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

Which is weird.

[Trey Kirby]

So you're not Trey podcast to them, you're.

[Tas Melas]

No, but I'll teach them about that.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay. Okay. All right. So look to get to Jerry's, you know, question here to answer it all. Rookie first team, of course, Con Knippel and Cooper. Flag one, two, whatever order you want to put them in, they're on the first team. TK Fill out the rest of that squad.

[Tas Melas]

How dare you make me do that. Oh, because I only got three guys that I really want on it.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, well, vj.

[Tas Melas]

Vj, yeah. That to me is those are the three guys that are a lock. And then I've got a nice chunk of fellas who I think are in the mix for slots four and five, including Ace Bailey, Cedric Coward.

[Trey Kirby]

Yep.

[Tas Melas]

Dylan Harper.

[Trey Kirby]

Yep.

[Tas Melas]

And Jeremiah Fears, though. Fears. I'm Fears. I have a hard time including in my top guys just because I do think he's put up big numbers. But I don't necessarily know if the. If the Pelicans trust him at all. They sent him to the bench. They also done the same with Derek Queen, who had, like, a really hot December when he kind of exploded onto the scene. Other guys I'm considering Kalkbrenner, you know, he is a role guy. He seems like a perfect, all rookie second team kind of guy. Definitely Colin Murray Boyles as well, I think so. Doing the same. And then the last guy I would throw into the mix, Maxime Reynold, has been really good for the Kings. Of course, they've lost, you know, 99 of their games, but I love the touch on the floater. He's a good player. So I don't know who my 4 and 5 would be. I probably would go with Coward and Harper.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Tas Melas]

My last two.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

I went Coward and Queen as my last Two, obviously you lead with Flag, Can, Apple and vj and the second unit, as you mentioned, a lot of guys that are kind of muddling together. Ace Bailey definitely on mine. Dylan Harper definitely on mine. I threw Trey Johnson on there. I thought he's been good when watching the Washington Wizards and efficient unlike a lot of other rookies. And then it came down to the last two for me. There's a group of Jeremiah Fears, Ugo Gonzalez. I can't deny that guy. I mean I think he is fantastic. Again, he's going to just turned 20. He's gonna be part of a rotation for over a decade. Well, for a long time he's super good. And then the Colin Murray, Boyles, Maxime Reynold foursome. But I went with Fears and Gonzalez. No disrespect to Colin Murray.

[Trey Kirby]

Who else is out there? Just so people don't get too upset. You would throw well recently. Mohamed Diawara has played well for the Knicks. Igor for the Nets for sure he would be their selection. Joe Man, Seon James has been okay. Another Hornet quite a lot. Rookie Will Richard's been decent. And then I think everybody else, you guys said Trey Johnson and Ace Bailey and so on just to give you that first team flag Knipple Edgecomb. I went Dylan Harper and Derek Queen. But I understand. I was just like utk. I'm like, oh, who do I put in there? Is it Cedric Coward? He has a right knee sprain right now. He's out right now. I bumped him to second team. Colin Murray balls there. Jeremiah Fears. I did have Joe man there and then I was torn between the big white guy center. Is it Calc Brenner or Maxime? I know I went Calbrenner but go Maxime if you really want.

[J. Skeets]

Calbrenner is.

[Trey Kirby]

So I didn't have Ace Bailey I guess in the mix. That would be my one omission.

[J. Skeets]

It came a little late. They definitely tried to shelter him, protect him a little bit. Coming off the bench not playing all that much but slowly pushing him into that role like other teams do. I guess Ryan Calbrender is going to be second everything for his whole career he was a second round pick. He could be a second all team, all rookie team. I don't have a third second thing, but he's going to be a second thing forever. Second year he'll be on a second unit. I guess he may not be a star.

[Tas Melas]

He's a good backup guy.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

All right, next Q. Let's do it.

[J. Skeets]

Hey guys, you're my favorite NBA podcast. This is attempt number one of trying to get you to debate this topic. First one.

[Trey Kirby]

All right.

[J. Skeets]

You did it. Team colors versus team infrastructure. Okay. Team colors. Anthony Black, Kobe White, Derrick White, Jalen Green and Jalen Brown. Team infrastructure is Stefan Castle, Mikel Bridges, Harrison Barnes, Scotty Barnes and Carl Anthony Towns. Who would win colors versus infrastructure. Thanks, Ollie. Dabs on Instagram.

[Trey Kirby]

Infrastructure is pretty funny. Castle and bridges and barns and a town. Couple Bridges with Harrison Barnes and Scotty Barnes. I'm team infrastructure in this hypothetical. But where are you? Interesting.

[Tas Melas]

It's really interesting to see who's going to win there. I think team color would need to add Draymond Green. They need a big man.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Maybe even Hunter Tyson.

[Trey Kirby]

Hunter Green.

[J. Skeets]

Wow. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, it's a stretch, but, you

[Tas Melas]

know, Ali here nailed most of the colors that are available.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

There's no Bill Burgundy out there, right?

[Trey Kirby]

No, there's no. And we have. And we're growing current players, so we can't go Derrick Rose or something like that.

[Tas Melas]

Not a lot of ads for team infrastructure. The only guys I found that maybe fit the bill are Garrett Temple and Jamal. My shack, which, you know.

[J. Skeets]

Close.

[Trey Kirby]

Pretty close. Temple's pretty funny.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

He's on the bench at least. You know, he's always helping out.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

I think looking at these five guys that Ali picked here, I'm probably going infrastructure as well, I guess. They seem to be a more complete team.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Guard.

[Tas Melas]

A couple of guards, a couple of forwards and a big man.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, big one.

[Trey Kirby]

You agree?

[J. Skeets]

Yes. It's kind of hard to debate. I know. Ali, I know you want to debate, but it's hard to debate who would win this. I would go infrastructure as well. Yeah, I, I started just writing stuff too. I mean, I mean, I just wrote puns, really. Upcoming defensive player of the year, Scotty is going to shut the Barnes door and not let anyone in. Mikhail is a real connector providing bridges for assists to everyone. Stray cats are everywhere in his towns. I mean, that really is a stretch. It really doesn't apply to being an infrastructure.

[Trey Kirby]

Started writing them.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. But started writing because really what is. Who do you got? Colors or infrastructure?

[Trey Kirby]

Jaylen Brown's the best player maybe of everybody here. That's fair. But he's their big guy. Yeah. So, you know, you're. You're in a tough spot here with the size on the. On the team color and like you said.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

You got a point guard, you got wing guys, you got some defensive minded guys in Barnes and Bridges and then Carl Anthony Towns. Is still an all NBA ish. At least an all star center. So. So yeah, it's a better team. It's a better infrastructure to the infrastructure they do, actually. Ooh, who would be coaching? I'm putting everybody on the spot here, but any coaches with an infrastructure. Even pun.

[J. Skeets]

I mean, Doc Rivers isn't an infrastructure.

[Tas Melas]

No, he's on team nature.

[J. Skeets]

But you know, if you got a bridges over our rivers.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, that's true. It's really tough.

[Tas Melas]

Chris Finch is also on team nature.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

I don't know. Come back to me.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Tas Melas]

I gotta think about every coach.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, it's not bad. It's not bad.

[Tas Melas]

Tiago Splitter. I mean that's not infrastructure at all.

[J. Skeets]

That's technology.

[Trey Kirby]

The rivers could split.

[Tas Melas]

Uh huh.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Tributaries. All right, next one. Hey boys, great work on last night's G League broadcast. Okay, so. Oh, last week's. Did I say that? Did I say last night's? What did I just say?

[J. Skeets]

I think you said night.

[Tas Melas]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

Either way.

[Trey Kirby]

Hey boys, great work on last week's G League broadcast. In the past you have fallen in love with Skyhawks players. You've gotten the chance to cover up close. This is true. I'm talking about Kobe, Buffkin, Daquin, Plowden, Veecreci and others. Guilty as charge. No doubt. We love those guys. So who impressed you this last go around? Who's the next College Park Skyhawks player you're going to talk way too much about? That's from Mike here in Georgia. Must have been watching on the Peachtree Sports Network. Thank you, Mike for checking out. We had a blast doing that. Once again, I will add one guy. It wasn't from us on a call at a. At a Skyhawks game, but I had sat courtside and saw him and did an Instagram post about him and I was like, I like this guy. He can play. Brandon Williams. There's another guy who actually obviously played a little bit and is decent. So. But from this go around task, who jumped off the floor to you, who's our guy here for no dunks when it comes to Skyhawks players or the other team as well?

[J. Skeets]

The Raptors 905 Asa Newell. For me, I know he may be a little bit of a stretch because he was a number 21 pick and he's a rock. So he isn't a. A classic G League guy. Are there classic guys? Yeah, there are. Now there's new guys because G League is using their system as more of a. Hey, it's a minor league. To get their Guys like Asa Newells 21 pick. I'll say he's going to make it because he's already immediate media pro. He's just, he's a pro on the floor too, but he's. I just tried to ask him a question about his first half. What was your coolest play? And he already had a pre. Packaged, predetermined answer. So he's good with the media. He didn't give me the, the answer that I wanted, but I think he's ready. He's ready. Other than that. This, this. Sometimes we miss on this. Like, were we Dominic Barlow fans?

[Tas Melas]

Nah, we didn't talk up Donald Barlow and he had a great season.

[J. Skeets]

This guy's starting.

[Trey Kirby]

The question is, did he have a good game when we were there?

[J. Skeets]

I don't think so.

[Trey Kirby]

I don't think so either.

[J. Skeets]

No. That's why Kobe Buffkin got me.

[Trey Kirby]

I mean, of course we saw him score 40, right? Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Drop 40 in my face. Thought he could be the guy.

[Tas Melas]

But we did know about Danis Jenkins and Tolu Smith as well. Asa Newell was good.

[J. Skeets]

He was good.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, he was.

[Trey Kirby]

He was really good. But like, Bills doesn't count.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, he's not even 21 years old and was a first round draft pick. They just, just sent him down, I think probably because Kaminga has come to town. So there's less minutes for the forwards out there for the full Hawks versus the Skyhawks. But yeah, I mean, he was given great effort. He's got the stretch, his game a little bit, bringing the ball up and you know, initiating offense, things he doesn't get to do for the Hawks. He was like in the right spot defensively basically the entire time and played super duper hard.

[J. Skeets]

So he was great footwork out there. He had a nice move. I thought that was his coolest one. Give me, give me that one. Give me that as your answer, Asa.

[Tas Melas]

That was nice action. Bashir Jihad also had a great game. Like he didn't miss basically until late in the game when his legs just started cramping up from running and dunking all the time. That was awesome. Went up for a dunk. Ah, his legs just cramped up. So he got back up, sprinted down the court. Somehow the ball finds him underneath the hoop again on the other end, goes up for a dunk, cramps up again,

[Trey Kirby]

and we're like, what the hell's going on with this guy?

[Tas Melas]

This guy's got crazy legs. They brought in Isaiah Moore, who maybe he could be a Musa Diabate type.

[J. Skeets]

Sure.

[Tas Melas]

He's just running and jumping out there on the other side for the 905. I thought AJ Lawson was their best player. He was hitting a bunch of threes, but he's played a ton of NBA games at this point. Another guy that we noticed, Julian Reese, brother of WNBA star Angel Reese, he got the call up last night to the Wizards. They had an incredible stat that they said on the broadcast for him. They said he was the first rookie for the Wizards since the merger in 76, 77 to start his first NBA game. That is not the first game of the season. So I was like, it took a whole lot of cherry picking to give Julian Reese a shout out. And he fouled out. Fouled out of his first game going against Shengoon. Tough matchup for him, but it's cool to see him out there wearing Angel Reese's shoes.

[J. Skeets]

Okay, hold on. Maybe I'm dumb here, but we watched 905 versus the Skyhawks. And then I saw Julian Reese playing an NBA game yesterday, so I was confused. He's playing for the Washington Wizards. He didn't come up from the Go Go?

[Trey Kirby]

No, no.

[J. Skeets]

So. So do they just. How do they. How does he go from the 905 to the Wizards?

[Tas Melas]

Ask John Hollinger. Ask Larry Coon. They can explain to you the ins and outs of the cba. Yeah, but it's not like I don't think he was a draft pick, right? So he's probably signed to a contract with the 905 rather than a Raptors holistic.

[Trey Kirby]

I would guess that's sort of how the. What the workaround is to then be able to be called up.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

Or maybe it has to be an agreement between the two teams. I have no idea.

[J. Skeets]

No, I don't know.

[Trey Kirby]

But you're right. It shocked me, too. What the hell is he doing? Hey, why is he on that team? Starting. Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Did we just watch the Go Go Wizards? No, we did not. We watched the Raptors 905. What a name. The Go Go Wizards.

[Trey Kirby]

No, that's not what they're called, is it?

[J. Skeets]

It is.

[Trey Kirby]

I thought it was the capital city Go Go. Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, okay. The capital city Go Go.

[Trey Kirby]

Still.

[J. Skeets]

Still wouldn't.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, weird name. Well, I think Raptors 905. I actually hated being on the broadcast for that team name.

[J. Skeets]

You being from Stratford, you don't like a 905 area?

[Trey Kirby]

No, but it's just like, a weird team. Like, it's a weird team to call on the broadcast because, like. Like, a part of me is like, I guess you can call them Raptors, but that feels strange because they're not to me, the Raptors. Yeah. But then, so you're like, oh, the 905ers looking good here. And it's like, what? Why is he saying a bunch of numbers?

[J. Skeets]

I don't know.

[Trey Kirby]

I didn't like the flow. Like, for Skyhawks, it's easier.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

That's just my opinion. I hear Raptors. 905. You're right. I don't mean to dis disrespect the Mississauga, man. I know you love your 905, man.

[J. Skeets]

I do. Man.

[Tas Melas]

Did you have a 905 area code growing up?

[J. Skeets]

I did, yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

He did. Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. But when I got a cell phone, I ain't going 905. You crazy? Back when numbers mattered.

[Trey Kirby]

Mattered.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. I got a 416.

[Trey Kirby]

I was gonna say you went 416. Nice. Nice.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. Blessed.

[Tas Melas]

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[Tas Melas]

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[J. Skeets]

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[J. Skeets]

As a Knicks fan, I often find myself voicing pessimism about their prospects to advance to the finals. But really, I think they can do it. Maybe I'm trying to undermine my optimism by saying they can't, but but what other things you have expressed without really believing just to protect yourself from disappointment when they do or don't come true. Cheers. That's from Craig. So what are things that you kind of. I know this is a tough question.

[Trey Kirby]

Such a tough question to answer for me. I struggled with.

[J. Skeets]

So you're kind of hedging. You know, you're protecting yourself with a prediction.

[Trey Kirby]

Go ahead, TK if you got one.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, mine was easy. The Bulls are going to win the draft lottery. They got a four and a half percent chance, so the odds aren't good. But, you know, I spin the tank a thon wheel, and there they are staying at ninth. But then I spin it again until I get them into that top four. Three spins.

[J. Skeets]

Four.

[Tas Melas]

Oh, they just dropped five, six.

[Trey Kirby]

This is bad. Wow.

[Tas Melas]

Seven. Dropped again. Eight, nine.

[Trey Kirby]

Are you serious? Oh, oh, oh. Oh, my God.

[Tas Melas]

And now we jumped into third.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay. I thought when you were counting there, you were not counting the spins. You were counting where they were dropping to in the stand. The trappers were like, what are you doing? Talking about. How is that happening?

[Tas Melas]

It took me 10 spins to jump into the top four.

[Trey Kirby]

Gotcha.

[Tas Melas]

Which, you know, odds wise, actually kind of makes sense. Actually a little slow. So we need to update these standings here, but yeah, I mean, when your team sucks and they're tanking, all you can do is believe that the odds are going your way.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

So I pray every night to Adam Silver that he rigs the lottery for the Chicago Bulls again.

[Trey Kirby]

Do it again.

[Tas Melas]

This is the year. It's been a long time. Yeah, it's been a long time since it's been rigged.

[Trey Kirby]

It's been a long time. You guys are. Your turn is up. I guess I should have clarified when I said I found this very difficult. I was trying to, like, not do like a classic Raptors sort of like, hedge my bet, something like that. I was trying to think of something else. And here's the best I could come up with. Believing and expressing that I'm a below average or quite honestly, crappy three point shooter. But I'm not, I don't think. And Trey, you can speak to this better than anyone here. I'm really not. And in fact, I've tried to get better at it. Take more, I think hit more in our pickup runs. But I think I do this to myself. I believe that because a part of me is like. It's like the getting older of playing pickup basketball. Like I'm, you know, I can't rely on my speed as much, driving as much, all that stuff. So I got to start. Got. Start adding that to My game. But in doing so, I'm like, you know, youth gone. Part of my game, gone. That makes sense. You know what I mean? I'm trying to hedge there on that.

[Tas Melas]

Well, you do pass up too many threes.

[Trey Kirby]

I know. I do.

[Tas Melas]

I do. Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

I do. I don't. But. Way better than it used to be.

[Tas Melas]

Exactly.

[Trey Kirby]

Way better.

[Tas Melas]

You shoot it just fine. Especially considering the 50% bump you get from playing pickup ball. Yeah, it's like making fours. You got to take twos.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I know, I know. You're right. And I mean, we're playing. And we're not playing on an NBA line by any means either. You're right. You're right. I'm trying, man. I'm trying.

[Tas Melas]

You're shooting it more. You said it was a New Year's resolution, One of our first runs in January. I was like, that's good. Glad to hear that.

[Trey Kirby]

I'm following in on that, following up on that resolution.

[J. Skeets]

I've got my grip squeezer here to help out your forearm strength. You can just do it while you do the show. I don't have it.

[Trey Kirby]

It's mentality. It's got nothing to do with physical. It's all mentality. Let it. Let it rip.

[J. Skeets]

So how can you tell yourself you're bad and then be able to overcome that mentality obstacle?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, I know. That's. That's the hurdle, man. That's the hurdle. I have to start going. I am a good three point shooter, right? Look, I'm not, you know, I'm not saying I'm Del Curry by any means, but, like, in our run, I am. He's good. There's another guy. It's elite. Maybe one other guy, but I'm probably top five, top four, but I don't take nearly enough.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, I hear you.

[Trey Kirby]

I say especially in Trey's right, man, and when you're playing ones and twos, man.

[J. Skeets]

Trey got better as he got older because I would say you weren't.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah, you had. You added a lot more three point shots.

[J. Skeets]

You can be like. You can do that.

[Trey Kirby]

I try to be like you, man. Try and be. Trade.

[Tas Melas]

Podcast started lifting weights, man. That's what it is.

[Trey Kirby]

Hey, how about today to. To get better at three point shooting or shoot more? Trade day.

[Tas Melas]

Trade day.

[Trey Kirby]

Come on, man. Okay, everybody go look.

[Tas Melas]

How many. How many three should I make today? A three for me is behind the second. No, no, we don't. Though.

[J. Skeets]

Though.

[Tas Melas]

I am. I've seen some text messages coming in. Season starts next week, and we just got our Other tray back.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, two trays.

[Tas Melas]

Two trays. On trade day, I'm going to be following up and letting them know that

[Trey Kirby]

three, three is trey day.

[Tas Melas]

But on my driveway, I consider the second crack on the driveway. That's a three pointer to me because it seems about far enough. So usually I go for 50 jumpers. Today, 53 pointers.

[Trey Kirby]

There you go. Yeah. Stretch it out. Nice.

[J. Skeets]

Wow, that's a lot.

[Trey Kirby]

All right, I'll go down to my local part. I know if you have nobody rebounding, maybe get one of the girls out there. That'll help. All right, final question. Here in beach stepping, it's pretty simple. We need Tass's top five smiles in the NBA. Peyton Watson and who else? And that is from Griffin by way of substack, where you can obviously leave a question. So, Tas, you did bring up Peyton Watson, his great smile. Let's fill out the rest of the list.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. Here are the top five NBA smiles.

[Tas Melas]

Top five, top five, top five, top five million top five, top five.

[J. Skeets]

At number five, it's Shay Gilgeous Alexander. I'm not just saying this because he's the mvp. That smile is electric. It's contagious. It's just a great smile. Number four, it's Pascal Siakam. A lot of teeth. A lot of gums.

[Trey Kirby]

A lot of gums.

[J. Skeets]

He can do it all. Huge smile. And number three, Andrew Wiggins.

[Trey Kirby]

Oh, yeah. I thought he'd be on this.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, yeah, he's a great one.

[Tas Melas]

He just. He had a. He caught an alley up or something. Yeah, that fast break dunk where like he fell down, goes tumbling into the bench. Came up just grinning ear to ear.

[Trey Kirby]

Right.

[Tas Melas]

I thought that was so funny. He's a great smiler.

[J. Skeets]

I literally just said Andrew Wiggins smile and I started smiling. Yeah, it is absolutely contagious. He is just so warm hearted here. Could feel it through the smile.

[Trey Kirby]

He smiles a lot with his eyes too.

[J. Skeets]

Ah, yeah. Ah.

[Trey Kirby]

It's a big part of it.

[J. Skeets]

That's it. Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Tyra. Yeah, Smize.

[Trey Kirby]

That's right. Sm.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. That's why I started calling him warm Hearted Wiggins. I know, I know. There's. He's just a warm hearted guy. Peyton Watson is number two. Pton Watson. If you look at his mouth, you can't help but see those teeth are so white. They're whiter than white, honestly. And there's such a big smile that stands out. So he's number two, Steph Curry at number one.

[Tas Melas]

Wow.

[J. Skeets]

Wow.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[J. Skeets]

That smile he had when he won that gold medal, humongous that. That stands out in my head. I don't like when he's got the mouth guard in his mouth and he smiles at the same time. Not a fan of that. But when he won that gold, I'll always remember that that was such a sincere, real, real guttural smile. So I felt great. That felt great to see that. So there's top five. We got a Shay, we got a Seakum, we got our man, Andrew Wiggins, Peyton Watson and Steph Curry at number one.

[Trey Kirby]

There you go.

[J. Skeets]

Those are the top five.

[Trey Kirby]

There you go, Griffin.

[J. Skeets]

There you go, Griffin. Let me know, let me know.

[Trey Kirby]

Who do you miss? Who do you miss? Let us know. In the Stream team right now. A lot of great smiles in the

[Tas Melas]

M. To me, I would add number one. Guy I would add is Jared McCain. Oh, yeah, that guy has a theatrical smile.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

And he's ready to pull it out at the drum.

[Trey Kirby]

He's always doing it on social media.

[Tas Melas]

We always smile. That guy's just always smiling.

[J. Skeets]

Genuine one for me is Jalen Williams.

[Trey Kirby]

Big Jalen Williams.

[J. Skeets]

Big J. I agree. Yeah, yeah, he's.

[Trey Kirby]

He smiles a lot too. He does. Even when Jokic is going out. Natured guy. Yeah, for sure. Good stuff. Great questions, guys. Keep them coming all the time. You never know when we're going to step on the beach. Lubbot of the Night Sponsored by Paul Krupnath. Happy birthday, Paul. That is from your girlfriend, Amy. Paul's birthday was yesterday, March 2nd. But Amy does have a habit of forgetting his birthday and saying it's March 3rd. Sounds like Amy is a big fan of Trey Day. Hey, but happy birthday, Paul. Thank you, Amy. Whoa, boy. It's going to Jamal Murray poured in a game high 45 points in that win. Shot 13 of 19 from the field, 8 for 13 from deep, 11 of 12 at the line. So mad efficiency. Dish out a game high eight assists. Had two steals. Now one knock on this. Well, boy, he did have a lot of turnovers. Don't love that. Don't love to see seven turnovers, but when you go for 45, shooting the ball like he did with the eight assists, I think it. I think you're okay for a whoa boy.

[J. Skeets]

Absolutely.

[Trey Kirby]

Congrats to Jamal. Kitchener's finest, Jamal Murray. I should have said that. All right.

[Tas Melas]

Got a couple of good smile additions here.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay.

[Tas Melas]

I'm seeing a Tyrese Maxey. He's a good smiler. Absolutely. Kemba Walker, Michael says, had an all time smile. I mean, it's a totally different list if we're going deep in the smile archives. But he's on there. He's absolutely on there. And then I've seen more than one person suggest this and I like to see it. Bryce Sensibov.

[Trey Kirby]

Wow. Nice pull.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah, he, he's got a kind face.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

To me he's high on the handsome guy. Like rankings.

[Trey Kirby]

Nice. Top five handsome guys coming tomorrow.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, nice smile pull. I gotta check, I gotta check Brian's sense of us.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay. He's looking it up. No, he likes what he sees. Very good indeed. Okay, pick him tonight. Task. You are in a quick hole here. Here. You had a loss last night, TK and I got the win with the Clippers. Win.

[J. Skeets]

Well, the Knicks are visiting the Toronto Raptors tonight. This is game four for them. First three games the Knicks have destroyed the Raptors by an average of 22 points. All big double digit wins. So what will game four bring us? Will it be a playoff series? This team is down 3, 0 and then they got fight for the gentleman's win here. We shall see. There are two and a half point dogs tonight. So I guess they'll lose by two and win and cover for you guys because both Skeets and Trey are taking the Raptors. I'm taking the Knicks thinking that they're just going to keep sweeping and the Knicks are playing better.

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. So it was, I thought it was a little bit interesting this line. Part of the reason I sort of went wraps, you know, I don't know. Schedule thinking here with the Knicks. Are guys not playing for the Knicks?

[J. Skeets]

That's too small.

[Trey Kirby]

A little bit of a small line for a team that's much better. Raptors can't beat good teams. Knicks, you know, have owned them. Like you said, two and a half was one and a half.

[J. Skeets]

They're three and a half games better. It's not like a big difference.

[Trey Kirby]

They can't beat good teams.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Tas Melas]

Beat them three times. This game was 16 points.

[Trey Kirby]

But look, I say all that and I'm picking the Raptors tonight. So maybe this will be one of their rare wins. I mean they have some points just to cover but. Yeah, I thought. I think it's weird the lines. It is weird. I always, when I see a weird line, I sort of go with it.

[J. Skeets]

For us, for us are, are hardcore as we know that the Raptors can't beat the, the above 500 teams that they just can't.

[Trey Kirby]

I just feel like this line. There's going to be a lot of money on the New York Knicks when you look at a line like this. And it was one and a half.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. So there has been money on the Knicks because it has grown from what, and a half to two and a half?

[Trey Kirby]

Yeah. And I don't know.

[J. Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Would make me feel uneasy. But you got the Knicks. See if you can tie this up here. Test does have to pay off. February's loss. And we know what we're doing. Smelling salts and great timing with Doug Christie showing us how these work. Because this clip the other night of Doug Christie doing them, I guess he does it frequently, but that one. Oh, that was a strong batch task. This is what you're doing. In store for. Woo. He throws it. He's pumped, though. Let's go. So Tas is going to do this on Friday's podcast. Okay. On the drop podcast on Friday.

[J. Skeets]

This does not make me want to do it at all. No, no.

[Trey Kirby]

Somebody said in the comments yesterday. I think it was in the comments, like, great, Great pick and payoff idea. Especially cuz I know the other two guys are going to do it as well. He's like, yeah, we'll probably try it.

[J. Skeets]

Oh, so. So you want me to bring your bat? A good batch?

[Trey Kirby]

Bring. Bring the best batch you got.

[J. Skeets]

Okay.

[Trey Kirby]

Cuz I'm gonna see you do it and I'm gonna be like, I do

[J. Skeets]

want to see what that's like, what it feels like. Yeah. I've always wondered. But then you start to see these containers that are, like, labeled kind of like massive.

[Trey Kirby]

God, like indestructible.

[J. Skeets]

And I'm like, oh, gosh.

[Trey Kirby]

You said. You said these ones were arriving today or yesterday.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, well, they didn't get here yesterday, but they should be arriving today. I might just go to a Dick's. Just. I'm scared of them. Let me tell you, the Dick's brand, though. I'm literally.

[Tas Melas]

Some of them do have, like.

[Trey Kirby]

I think you're. You're doing. He's doing way too much research.

[J. Skeets]

Yes. Like, because in the end, it's just gonna be fine.

[Trey Kirby]

That's gonna happen.

[Tas Melas]

That's always gonna happen.

[Trey Kirby]

You're gonna be like, whoa. And then you're like, totally crossed my cough or something. I don't know.

[J. Skeets]

The.

[Trey Kirby]

I guess be over.

[Tas Melas]

Yeah.

[J. Skeets]

The Dick's brand is Bottled Insanity. Come on, dude. I don't want that. I don't want any pieces.

[Trey Kirby]

You don't want to sniff dicks. No.

[Tas Melas]

Bottled Insanity.

[Trey Kirby]

That's a cool name.

[Tas Melas]

Bottled insanity.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. And I yell like that because all the colors that they pick is just, you know, trying to yell at you trying to say you're gonna be tough because weightlifters often do snort this and then, and then get on the bench.

[Tas Melas]

Do you think? I think this could result in a Gary scenario. Wow, you're so even keeled, I think. But if you're, if you're salted up, who knows what comes out?

[J. Skeets]

Yeah.

[Trey Kirby]

I am hoping this results in cocaine bear tests for sure. But I just, I just think it's going to be exactly like we just said.

[J. Skeets]

Who called Russell? Oh, Kevin Durant called Russell Westbrook. Cocaine.

[Trey Kirby]

Cocaine bear. Melis. Tomorrow or Friday. Excuse me. Would be beef. Very funny. We're going to just try it out. We don't know what we're getting ourselves into. I don't know how many, how many

[Tas Melas]

packets are there for no reason?

[J. Skeets]

Well, I just saw this. This one without any sort of labels. It just literally says ammonia inhalants, 40 count. It's black and white label. Just very simple. So there's like 40 little packets.

[Trey Kirby]

40 packets. Would you crack them? Is that what you do?

[J. Skeets]

Yeah. Would you rather have that?

[Trey Kirby]

Gonna learn a lot.

[J. Skeets]

Just like totally generic.

[Trey Kirby]

See that to me is scarier in a weird way. Yeah, I sort of want bottled intensity.

[J. Skeets]

I, I agree.

[Trey Kirby]

It's just like ah, they're making it more fun. At least that seems like. Oh yeah, I don't know.

[Tas Melas]

Very medicinal, very no frills smelling salts.

[J. Skeets]

Yeah, I, I don't want the, the department store brand, you know, I don't want a CVS brand.

[Trey Kirby]

Which one do we have coming? Do you know which one?

[J. Skeets]

Did you order one? That scared me the crap out of me. I forgot. I already forget the name.

[Trey Kirby]

Okay, well, we'll find out. All right, let's call it there guys. A little game talk, some beach. Step in. Thank you so much for joining us. On YouTube, hit the like button and subscribe. Podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. We're back tomorrow, which is I believe Wednesday. Lots of games on tonight, so we'll get into those. And again, keep the questions coming for beach stepping. Till then, Clipper Bros. You heard it here first.

[Tas Melas]

Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome.

[J. Skeets]

Thanks for joining us. And remember, Fred Van Vliet hasn't done a podcast since February 16th. Now I do have a little bit of insider information. As I said, a few weeks ago, he contemplated whether or not he was going to continue with the podcast if he was playing basketball. So does the fact that he hasn't done a podcast in two plus weeks when it was a weekly episode type of thing tell you Anything? Probably not, but his interviewer just. His interviewer just canceled. But it could. I don't know if he just canceled. I'm just saying he hasn't done a podcast in a while, so.

[Trey Kirby]

Tough booking right now.

[J. Skeets]

I know. It's getting late, though, Fred. Let's get on the floor.

[Trey Kirby]

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