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Josie Alesia Talks All: Childhood, Parent's Divorce, Engagement, Chisme & MORE!!
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- [00:00]
Josie
I did stop talking to my dad for a little bit after the divorce because I was just so mad at him. Because I was just like, you're doing everything. But it wasn't even about my mom anymore. I think it was like, you're doing everything but prioritizing your kids over here, trying to take my money, like, as a threat to scare me.
- [00:28]
Alan Ice
What is up, everyone? I'm your host, Alan Ice, and this is no. Your favorite podcast turn talk show and on the YoTrago ATUS influencers. So without any further ado, please help me welcome my guest tonight. Josie.
- [00:55]
Josie
Hello. Hello, amiga.
- [00:57]
Alan Ice
Welcome back to the podcast.
- [01:01]
Josie
I'm good. How are you?
- [01:02]
Alan Ice
I am so excited. Ellen Pera. Josie, I really do feel like the interview we had almost three years ago, it's going to be three years this month.
- [01:15]
Josie
That's insane.
- [01:16]
Alan Ice
In September, it's going to be three years ago. And I feel like, one, your life has changed so much since then. And two, I also do feel like the podcast has changed a lot since then. Your interview was what, like 30 minutes? I feel like our podcast can now go anywhere from an hour to two hours, all depending on the guest. You guys. And I'm. I was actually watching back the interview yesterday and I was telling you last night when we got on a call, I felt like the interview, you know what it was? It wasn't even you as a guest. It was very much okay, so the podcast started off as 10 minute IGTV videos, right? How it started is not even what it is today. It wasn't very much like, come over here, I want to know about your life trauma dump on me. Like, it wasn't any of that, you know, during the time I interviewed you, I was kind of transitioning over, over to like, I want to know more of the influencer. That was like the first kind of like, you know, phase of getting to that. But I feel like now it has developed and has grown so much that I was like, you know what, we need to get Josie back on here. We were literally at Louie's birthday party last weekend and I was like, I had your sister, I had your mom. I'm excited.
- [02:25]
Josie
Are you nervous? I am a little nervous a little bit.
- [02:28]
Alan Ice
Why?
- [02:28]
Josie
Well, like you said, so much has changed. I feel like I'm more mature now. I feel like before I was just like, so ditzy and so yay when you first invited me. So when you told me again, like, us getting closer, I was like, let's do it. I know.
- [02:44]
Alan Ice
We have a lot to talk about. Before we get started, what have you been up to? What did Josie do today prior to getting here today?
- [02:53]
Josie
Honestly, I don't do much. I'm just gym. Like, I'm literally just an IE girly. I go to the gym, clean, film at home, go to sleep, and occasionally hang out with my fiance, but that's literally it. Or go to events whenever we have events, but that's all I do. I'm. I like to stay home, so I'm not really doing anything.
- [03:10]
Alan Ice
Like a crazy homebody.
- [03:11]
Josie
I am a homebody.
- [03:12]
Alan Ice
Do you feel like when you go out, you kind of feel you go out just because you feel like you got to be out there?
- [03:16]
Josie
I do kind of. Not really. I like going out, but I just don't. I mean, I'm so socially anxious that when it comes to, like, actually going out, I'm like, okay, I just need to go or I'm going to regret not going. I feel like I'm always at home. So that's why, like, any chance I get to be out, I'm like. I take it. Like, I'll be outside because I'm like, I'm young. I'm barely in my 20s. Let me just take advantage of this. Let me just go out now before I'm old and wrinkly. And I'm like, I need to go out, you know?
- [03:39]
Alan Ice
But don't get me wrong, I like being outside, you guys, but I feel like I prefer to be home Monday through Thursday through Sunday. Well, Sundays, I feel like, are my, like, recovery day. Yeah, what's your recovery day? As, like, an influencer? Because I feel like influencers really do take, like, a whole ass day to recover. Is that, like, a thing for you, too?
- [04:00]
Josie
Yeah, I went out recently, went to the club, and I literally, that whole entire Saturday, I was recovering. Sometimes it sucks, but I baby myself, and I'm like, I'm going to take the whole weekend, like, Saturday, Sunday, and then maybe Monday if I have to, where I'll recover. It's so bad. Like, I.
- [04:15]
Alan Ice
It is so bad, you guys, but it's so necessary. I mean it in all funds and giggles, you guys. I feel like if I don't go out Sundays, I mentally prepare myself to just, like, be home chilling, doing nothing. Sundays and then Mondays, I'm still chilling, but I'm editing.
- [04:34]
Josie
Yeah.
- [04:34]
Alan Ice
Which I still feel like, okay, but, like, at least it's chill vibes on Wednesday, I'm like, in Chinga, you guys. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Today's episode of Noche de Pendejadas is brought to you by booking.com booking. Yeah. From vacation rentals to hotels across The u. S. Booking.com has the ideal stay for everyone. Whether you're booking for yourself, your partner, your sleep light rise, early mom or your hype maintenance group chat, you can find exactly what you're booking for on booking.com so if I can find the perfect stay on booking.com anyone can find exactly what you're booking for booking.com booking yeah. Book today on the site or on the app. Now let's get back to today's episode.
- [05:27]
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- [06:30]
Alan Ice
That she's nervous but so am I. I haven't filmed an episode of Noche de Pendejadas in over a month because I was pre filming so I was like yato caba studio amigas. So with that being said, before we get started, I'm going to go ahead and give you the microphone to tell us a little bit more of who you are and what you do. For those of you guys that may not know her.
- [06:51]
Josie
Hey guys, I am Josie. I am a content creator. I wouldn't occasionally I like to call myself an influence when I do. Influence. Good. But I honestly, I just like to party, have fun with my friends and my family. I do make beauty content. Family content. That's just me. I like K Pop. That you do. You do.
- [07:09]
Alan Ice
I didn't know you like K Pop and then you post it so much. So I was like okay, she's a K pop. I was gonna all Starbucks the strawberry cake pop. No, but like you are a very like cake pop stat. For all the K pop pop stance out there, what's like your favorite band? What got you into it?
- [07:27]
Josie
When I got into it actually was, yeah, fourth grade, Gundam Style came out. Everyone was turned to it. And then now when like it kind of got normalized, everyone's like, oh, I don't listen to that Korean music. And I'm like, girl, yes you were. You're listening to Gangam style. But yeah, I got into it in eighth grade. I found a couple groups that I liked and ever since then my parents thought it was going to be a phase. And I have K pop lyrics added on my back. It's not a phase.
- [07:48]
Alan Ice
We really do.
- [07:49]
Josie
I have them in English. Okay.
- [07:50]
Alan Ice
Okay. Okay. Yeah, because I don't know what the.
- [07:52]
Josie
Fuck they say, but is it like Chinese? It's Korean.
- [07:55]
Alan Ice
Korean.
- [07:56]
Josie
BTS lyrics. BTS lyrics. And it says like an echo in the forest, the day will come back around. Like nothing happens. So it's like a little meaningful. I don't know.
- [08:04]
Alan Ice
You've gone to a couple concerts. Which ones?
- [08:06]
Josie
I've been to bts, Blackpink, Stray Kids. I think that's it.
- [08:12]
Alan Ice
Is BTS the ones that we end on the army, like in their country?
- [08:16]
Josie
Yes.
- [08:17]
Alan Ice
Isn't that wild?
- [08:17]
Josie
It is crazy.
- [08:18]
Alan Ice
Like the fact that you're like a whole blown star and they're like, stop what the fudge you're doing. You're going to go to the military. Do they want to do it? Like do you know? Like do you follow them?
- [08:28]
Josie
Like, yes. They had it extended because of how much money they were working or like bringing in to the Korean government. So they're like, oh, like extending it, like delaying it basically for them. And then they just decided to go because, you know, and now Josie's suffering and now how long do they have?
- [08:42]
Alan Ice
Now they're back. Oh, they're back. Okay, so it wasn't even that long.
- [08:45]
Josie
It was like four years.
- [08:46]
Alan Ice
Oh, shit. That went by so quick because I do remember hearing about that. So they're back together?
- [08:51]
Josie
Yes.
- [08:52]
Alan Ice
Okay. Thank God, you guys. Okay. Like I said when I said.
- [08:56]
Josie
But everyone was freaking out. They do like solos now. Like each member has like their own album, their own songs, like whatever. But I think them being together, well, obviously they're grown men. They're not going to stay together forever. But I think like, if that day comes, like, I will be upset, but you know, it's going to be like how my mom talks about like NSYNC or something. I'll be like, oh girl, this is my hair.
- [09:15]
Alan Ice
I can Relate girly. That is crazy, you guys. Whenever you post about that, I love it even though I can't relate because I'm like, wait, wait, are there songs in English?
- [09:24]
Josie
They have songs in English. They have. It's like a mix of Korean and English.
- [09:27]
Alan Ice
Do you understand the Korean ones? Like, are you jamming out to them?
- [09:30]
Josie
Listen to them. But I don't know what they're saying. You're like, like, literally I'm dancing.
- [09:36]
Alan Ice
Like, even though you don't know what they they're saying, do you at least like learn the lyrics?
- [09:41]
Josie
I like sometimes, Occasionally I'll watch music videos with the subtitles. I'm like, oh, this is what they say.
- [09:46]
Alan Ice
Oh, it's all a crazy ass song. You're like, this is what I'm jamming out to. Super emotional. Because I feel like the last interview, like I told you, it was very surface level. I got to know you. I didn't really get to know Josie. So we're gonna go ahead and start. And we're gonna start with the question that I love starting always with, how is Josie growing up? Como fueto infancia? What were hobbies you love doing growing up or struggles that you felt you and your family went through during that time?
- [10:20]
Josie
Quintanas growing up? Well, I was already off to a bad start. Soono as soon as I was born, I was born in San Bernardino. And we were not the richest. We had no money. Basically, girl, it was just my mom, my dad and his family. And girl, we were in the ghetto. I don't know this, but from the stories that I've heard, it was just so ghetto to the point where there was roaches, everything roaches on my face. After that happened, my mom was just like, we need to get you out of here. And a couple days later the apartment ended up getting shot up and we just bounced. We were homeless for a while. We were sleeping in my parents car and then sleeping at my dad's shop. So clearly it wasn't the best way to be brought into this world. But they made sure that I wasn't aware of anything. I remember one Christmas, I think I was in kindergarten, where my mom said that she felt so bad that they couldn't get like we got one present each, me and my brother. And I was like, girl, I don't remember that. Like I was just lit that we were opening presents, it was Christmas, and I didn't really realize that growing up, how bad we actually had it until like my mom like was starting to show it. Even though I was Younger, I was still like, what's going on? Like, why are we stressed right now? And it got to a point where when my sister was born, we had to sell like one of our puppies for diapers for Tessa. And I was just like, damn it, this damn dog. I love that dog too. But it was just like a. Not the best way. But by the time I went to school, everything was kind of like starting to clean up a little bit with that. My dad just being the Mexican man that he was, he didn't like that stuff being shown or seen. So every year for school, like back to school shopping like crazy. Like we had new clothes almost, almost every week. And it wasn't even like from anything crazy. It was like T.J. maxx, like Ross Dee Dee stuff. But he still like him and my mom still made sure that we had like new clothes, you know. So I think it was like a bad beginning. And then as my siblings started to come around and like they were getting older, it started to get better. So it was just like nice kind of having that. And especially with them too. Like they didn't have to like somewhat struggle like that, but it was like.
- [12:29]
Alan Ice
I'll struggle for you. Yeah, I witnessed everything that you also somewhat of a brat. Like, if you didn't get what you wanted, you'd be like, yolo.
- [12:39]
Josie
I was spoiled because, well, keep in mind I was the first girl from my dad. So I was just spoiled from my dad's side, my mom's side, and even growing up, my mom, when I was born, would not let anyone hold me like at all. Like if my grandma tried to hold me, my aunt, no one could hold me. And because of that, I would just cry non stop if anyone looked my way, tried to pick me up, try to touch me, anything. I was just crying. So I think they kind of embedded that into me. So it's not really my fault. But I think my mom just saw me as like her, her little baby. Yeah. And I think just from there it just kind of continued. And my dad growing up, I couldn't spend the night at any of my cousin's houses, couldn't spend the night nowhere. So I think I kind of got like used to of like being so watched and kind of protected that when it came to stuff like them not kind of doing what I wanted to do, I was like, what? Like, like all of a sudden now, why are you telling me? No. But I was, yeah, I was a big brat growing up. And I think that I learned it definitely because I had some Sessions of me getting.
- [13:42]
Alan Ice
You even got the cops called on you.
- [13:44]
Josie
Yes.
- [13:45]
Alan Ice
So you were telling me about that. I was like, girl, the cops were being spoiled.
- [13:49]
Josie
I don't know what it was. I think now what I can compare it to. I definitely don't think I had, like, anxiety or, like, anything like that then. But what I compare it to now is, like, my panic attacks now. I would just get so frustrated when, like, just talking and I felt like I wasn't being heard. So we had to do the Mission in projects in the fourth grade. And my mom was just like. She wasn't mad at me. She wasn't upset, nothing. She was just like, you could do it by yourself. And I was like, no, I can't do it by myself. I'm still like this to this day. I was like, I can't do it by myself. I need you to help me. She's like, I don't need to help you, Jocelyn. You can do it by yourself. You're a big girl. And I just, like, through the biggest fit in the world. I was screaming, crying, just so frustrated. I was like, I hate it here. I hate my life. I don't know. I was so ungrateful. Well, I'm not like this anymore, but I was just being like, a brat. Like, a complete brat. And it came to the point where my mom was just like, I'm gonna call the cops. Like, you need to be handled. You need to go somewhere else. You can't live here anymore. And I'm like, babe, I'm in the fourth grade.
- [14:47]
Alan Ice
What the fuck? So parents scare their kids with the cops, but your mom actually did.
- [14:53]
Josie
It wasn't a threat. Oh, I'm gonna call him. She did. So I'm sitting there looking at the front door while she's yelling at me, and I'm like, okay, I have a friend that lives down the street. How am I gonna book it enough to, like, make it there? Like, are the cops gonna follow me there? I was just panick. Cop gets here, and I'm like, oh, my God, if I run, is he gonna arrest me? I'm thinking of everything, and I'm just so little. I'm like, what? What is my little self really gonna do? So I'm sitting there, and I'm looking at him, and I'm just like, oh, my God, this is it. They're gonna take me. I'm not gonna go to school anymore. Like, it was just so bad. And he just ended up, like, looking at my closet, looking at all the stuff that my parents Bought me. And he was just like, look at all this stuff. You remember that, like, big TV in, like, the 2000s, like, with the big speaker. We had that in my room, me and Tessa.
- [15:32]
Alan Ice
It wasn't even like, like, a flat screen. It was just like a big cube.
- [15:36]
Josie
So I had that in my room. He was just looking at my room and, like, the dollhouse and everything. He's like, do you see this? Other kids wish they had this. And I was like, I'm not even being ungrateful. I just wanted help. Like, I just needed it.
- [15:46]
Alan Ice
I just want my mom to do my fucking project.
- [15:49]
Josie
That was really what it was. But I was just like, okay. And I just sat there, and he was just like, you know what? If you don't see all this, I'm going to take you right now. Is that what you want? And I was like, oh, you bald man. No, he was a bald. If I saw this man today, I would know exactly who it was.
- [16:03]
Alan Ice
You traumatized y.
- [16:05]
Josie
And I was just like, no. Okay. And then after that, he told my parents because I was just such, like, a girly girl when it came to school. I wanted a different outfit every day for school. So he was just like, you have three outfits for the week. Kids can re Wear their clothes. And I was like, that?
- [16:18]
Alan Ice
You're like, they can.
- [16:21]
Josie
But that just goes to show how spoiled I was. Like, it just showed. And then. Oh, another thing. I remember my dad. I don't know why. With my dad, I just thought I was the hulk. Like, I thought I was bigger than him. And I was just like. I just wouldn't listen to him. And there was also a time after the whole the cop. Like, a couple months later, we went school shopping and I got some. Two new favorite shirts. I don't even know if this is. I'm gonna say it anyways. My dad was just like, if you throw a fit, I'm gonna burn your clothes. And I was like, yeah, right. No, you won't. And then it comes to the point where we're arguing and my mom just like.
- [16:56]
Alan Ice
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- [19:35]
Josie
Do it, Jose. Do what you have to do. And I'm like, what do you mean.
- [19:38]
Alan Ice
You'Re backing them up? Yeah.
- [19:41]
Josie
And he made me choose between two shirts of which one I wanted. And he's like, pick one. And I was like, no, I'm not gonna pick one. And then I had to pick one. And he made me sit outside and Watch him burn my shirt on the grill.
- [19:51]
Alan Ice
He was legit. He was first. But you know what? I feel like, did that teach you a lesson at the time? Because I had. Growing up, we had a thea that wasn't really my Thea. She was my mom before I was even born. She. To take care of her kids. So then they became really close. We ended up going to church. I was like, Mormon at a time, because they would take us to the church. But she kind of became like our Thea.
- [20:13]
Josie
Right.
- [20:13]
Alan Ice
They had money. Like, they were really well off. And her kids were very spoiled. Like, spoiled to the point that, like, the newest clothes, all the Nintendo's that would come out, like. But because they were so spoiled, I. I don't remember what the kids did. They took away all their nice clothing, and they took them to Goodwill. And the senor, AKA my tia. Yes. Because we don't have any contact with her, but my tia would be like, you guys are gonna go to Goodwill, pick out two outfits, and that's your two outfits for, like the month. And I thought they were gonna be kidding. I was like, oh, she's not gonna do it. But she was like, no, I'm determined to show them that they have it so good. When do you feel like you realize, like, oh, you know what? I might be a little spoiled, but I also have to realize that I do have it really well.
- [21:04]
Josie
I think. Yeah, it was around my, like, second grade. People were second or third grade, people were starting to get phones and, like, ipods. And I think I was one of the first to have, like, an ipod. And everyone was just like, well, you have that already. And I was just like, yeah, like, you don't. Yeah, I was, like, kind of confused. But I think I grew up that way, like, with my dad kind of making us spoiled. Because he didn't grow up being that way. Neither did my. Well, my mom's loki spoiled a little bit, so I can't say anything because she. She got everything she wanted. But with my dad, I think it was him having his own kids, and he just wanted to, like, hear, this is what you want. But I definite did not get, like, if I was a brat, I got dealt with it so, so hard. It was traumatizing. Yeah, I definitely wasn't a brat just for fun. And just there was times where you.
- [21:47]
Alan Ice
Would ask for and they wouldn't give it to you.
- [21:49]
Josie
Yeah, okay. I wouldn't get everything. Okay.
- [21:52]
Alan Ice
It's only, like, things that they're like, okay, you know what? We're gonna Give her this one thing and stop bugging us for the rest of the year. That's how I was with my mom. I've shared this story so many times. When I turned 15, my mom, because I didn't have a good relationship with my D. Mom, would always do, like, above and beyond for me not to feel, like, the love that my dad wouldn't give me. So I remember when I was 15, I had gotten to the point that whatever I would ask for, my mom wouldn't give it to me on the spot. But, like, she would work hard and she would eventually give it to me right when it came down to my quinceanera, you know, I was so spoiled. And I've said this before, and I always think back and feel so bad because at the time, you know, my mom used to work at a factory. I think her checks were like, maybe like 203, 300 doll week, you know, full time, everything. I was asking for, like a PS4 at the time. A PS3, which were like the price of her checks. And when I turned 15, she was like, right. I wasn't out of the closet. So I was also kind of triggered, like, the fact that you would think that I would need a quinceanera. Like, who said I'm gay? Like, literally, which you don't have to be gay to have a kinsanera if you're a boy, by the way. But I was, I think it was like that. And me also being a little spoiled. I remember I made it a big deal. My mom was like, trying to get like. Like, you know, the mantel is the plastico. And I was like, no, like the. The cloth ones. All right. And then she was gonna do the Gravadora. And I was like, no, I want a dj, Pam. You guys, now when I know how money works and how much you gotta work, I always think back and I'm like, damn. Like, it's crazy that I would ask, you know, a brand new camera. I wouldn't be asking girl for like, no, your play. And they would make it happen.
- [23:46]
Josie
That's how I feel about Tessa. She was just like, I want this for my kids. I want this, this and that. And I'm like, girl, I didn't even have one. I wasn't saying it, but I was just like, you need to, like around that time when she was kind of being like a little. A brat. Well, it was her day, so it's understandable, but she was just kind of being like, very close minded. I was like, tessa, you have to Understand, this is like, it was like, during the divorce and everything too. So I was like, girl, you need to understand what's going on. You need to, like, open your eyes a little bit. Like, not, like, read the room.
- [24:12]
Alan Ice
You didn't have a quinceanera?
- [24:13]
Josie
No.
- [24:13]
Alan Ice
Why?
- [24:14]
Josie
We didn't have money at the time. Well, like, I was barely. That's around the time when I was, like, barely getting into social media. But I think me seeing my parents go through everything, I didn't want to put that, like, struggle on them a little bit or, like, stress of, like, trying to plan something. So just like, girl, I'll just have a party with my friends. Like, I don't really care.
- [24:33]
Alan Ice
So you had like, a comida.
- [24:34]
Josie
Okay.
- [24:39]
Alan Ice
You know Josie, the older sister, you're the oldest of three growing up. How far apart in age are you guys? And what was your guys relationship like growing up where you guys fight a lot? What was that like?
- [24:54]
Josie
Me and Nate are two years apart. Yeah. I think me and my brother, two years apart. Me and my sister, I think, are five. And growing up, me and my brother got along, I think because of us closer in age, but my sister being so much younger, I think I kind of got annoyed of her presence a little bit because I was just like. She was just this little bean, and I was like, girl, you don't need to be in here. Like, I was just really annoyed with her. But I think as we got older, I did get a little closer to Tessa because, like, we're both girls. We're literally both girly girls. She used to be a tomboy, so it's kind of hard too, at first, but I think we just kind of, like, got over that little phase. I think we had a fat moment where we were close for, like, a year. The three of us, like, we were literally inseparable. We would do every single TikTok together. But I think it was because at the time, we were living in an apartment, so there was no choice.
- [25:39]
Alan Ice
There was nowhere to go. Girl.
- [25:40]
Josie
Exactly. There was no choice but for us to be close. But I think now we're like, like, older, but I think we're just doing our different, like, our own things.
- [25:47]
Alan Ice
What do you feel like growing up was like, something you guys would constantly fight about.
- [25:51]
Josie
The car and where we were gonna sit in the car. I. We okay for, like, my dad had gotten my mom a car for Valentine's Day, and it was like this big infinity. Like a mom car. Like, it was a mom car. So we already had, like, our seats, like, Figured out I was in the back. Tessa and Nate were, like, in the middle behind my mom, but, like, separated. And that was perfect because it's like, we're already home together all the time with each other, like, to have that space, especially with my brother playing travel ball. We were just always in the car, so it was just like, we needed that. And then when it finally came to my mom getting rid of the car, and my dad was just like, we don't need this. It was when I started going to la, my dad was just like, jocelyn's ever here. Like, let's get a smaller car. Let's, like, size down. I stopped going out, and I was, like, in the car with them. It was this little. Like, a little complex.
- [26:33]
Alan Ice
Oh, you guys all had to be the back.
- [26:34]
Josie
It was the three of us, and I was like, oh, my God. Nate was tall, like, bigger than us by then, and his long legs are just. Boys are like, yes, and Exactly. And I was just like, oh, my God. And then Tessa just likes to, like, lean on people when she's in the car, and, like, she'll do it without thinking. And me, like, I don't, like, touch like that. Like, in that close. The setting like that. So I was just like, oh, my God. This is the worst thing ever.
- [26:56]
Alan Ice
I feel like, in general, I feel like as a kid or as an adult, it's like, I do not want to be like, a sardine. I hate that. You know what's so crazy? In my car, I think I've only been in the back. I've had it for years. I think I've only been in the back seat, like, a lot of times. No joking. I actually don't like backseat sex. Random. I just said it was a joke. Are gonna think that, but I don't. Probably because I was traumatized when I was big as. I'm like, this is really uncomfortable. I don't fit. But anyways, that's not what I was trying to say. What I'm trying to say is I don't like being in the back for that exact reason. I feel like it's like, why are you so.
- [27:33]
Josie
Like, I would get so mad. Like, we would have road trips to, like, Arizona or Vegas for, like, a baseball tournament, and those would be the worst four hours of my life.
- [27:40]
Alan Ice
I feel like you and Tessa have gotten super close over the past years. Whenever you think about your relationship with your sister, is there, like, a moment where you're like, you know what? My sister and me actually do get along, despite the age difference. Do you remember, like, that moment where you guys kind of bonded to a point where you were like, you know what? I want to be around you.
- [27:57]
Josie
I think it was kind of when she started to have her own friends, and I was just like, I was the little sister around that. I was like, what are you guys doing? Like, I was being nosy.
- [28:07]
Alan Ice
Yeah, you're like, now you're annoying.
- [28:09]
Josie
Just, like, now you see where I was coming from. Like, you know? But I think it was when she started doing her makeup and, like, getting into, like, dressing herself and finding her own identity. Like, she would ask me, like, oh, should I wear this? Or, like, how should I do my makeup? Or, could you help me? And I was just like, okay, yeah, I could do this. Like, you know, But I think I just get so agitated easily. I think that's just me, my thing, because I even do this with my own friends. If I get irritated, like, just even over a text message and if I see something that annoys me, this is something I need to work on. I just close my phone. I'm like, I'm not dealing with this, but I think with her, I can't escape her. So I'm just like.
- [28:44]
Alan Ice
Like, I just deal with.
- [28:45]
Josie
Yeah.
- [28:46]
Alan Ice
Your relationship with your brother now. Because you guys don't live together.
- [28:48]
Josie
No.
- [28:49]
Alan Ice
Right.
- [28:49]
Josie
Okay. He gets on my nerves.
- [28:51]
Alan Ice
He's a guy.
- [28:52]
Josie
Yeah. He's the one I argue with the most, but he's also the one that when me and Tessa argue, I can't stand her. Like, it's just, like. Because she's so. Like, she has that young little mindset. Like, I'm right. I'm right. Anyways. And she likes to be like. She likes to troll on purpose.
- [29:05]
Alan Ice
Okay.
- [29:05]
Josie
Like, I asked her to get me something, and I was like, hey, could you get Mom? Tell her to come downstairs real quick. She's like. And then she's like. She's looking through my clothes. She goes, I want to use this bag. And I'm like, I know you hear me? Like, you know, but my brother, I think I. I don't take him ser. Like, I argue with him the most, but I don't take him serious because I think. Because he is a boy. And I'm just like, I can't take your man.
- [29:25]
Alan Ice
Let's say if you guys argue in this day and time, you'll be more mad at Tessa than you would be at your brother, actually. Because you're like, girl, like, I don't want to deal with you.
- [29:32]
Josie
Yeah, I do get more mad at Tessa.
- [29:33]
Alan Ice
To your brother? Yeah, like you're a boy. Like, you don't know.
- [29:36]
Josie
No, that's literally how I feel. Like, he gets on my nerves the most. He does get on my nerves more than Tessa, but I'm just like, whatever. Like, I know he's trolling, so I'm like, I'm not.
- [29:45]
Alan Ice
You're like, I'm not going to feed into it. Growing up, how would you describe your relationship with your parents? Growing up, do you feel like you were more of like, a daddy's girl, a mommy's girl? Quentadas.
- [30:01]
Josie
I think growing up, my dad was never really home. He was always at work. And I get that. I'm thankful for that because we wouldn't have the life that we have now if it wasn't for him working. So I think I automatically kind of glued to my mom. And I think with us always being together, even from when I was born, I just, like, looked up to her. Everything she did, I wanted to do. I remember I would use her makeup and I. I would go sit in the bathroom sink and, like, do my makeup, use all her makeup. And I'm like, why do people use makeup? Like, I can't even tell anything. And I remember getting smacked one time because she's like, I was like 8 or something, and she's like, you can't use my makeup. You're too little. And I was like, girl, you can't even see it on my face. But okay. Like, I put mascara and blush. But I think, yeah, it was just kind of hard. I never really got along with my dad to a closeness. Like, I would hang out with him, him, but it just wasn't like how it was with my mom.
- [30:48]
Alan Ice
Do you feel like you would tell your mom, like, all your secrets as opposed to your dad?
- [30:52]
Josie
I told my mom everything. I would. I wouldn't hold back from my dad. I talked to my dad the same way that I talked to my mom, but I think just when it came to boys was what he really didn't want to hear. But when I got older and I was like, oh, like, literally when I went on my first date with my fiance, I was just like, oh, I called him because I knew my mom was with my sister, because my sister went on a date and I called him, I was like, oh, I just went on my date, blah, blah. He was like, oh, how was it? Like, I would talk to him like normal, but we just weren't. Weren't as close. I think he was closer with my.
- [31:17]
Alan Ice
Brother when we're little and we don't understand, you know, our parents trying to look out for us or our parents trying to, like, do the best they can to guide us. Sometimes we're like, our parents are so annoying. What is something that maybe back then, you know, your mom would be on your ass about, and now that you're older and you're more mature, you're like, you know what? Shout out to my mom for doing that because she saved me maybe from this or that. Do you feel like now as an adult you can kind of like agree more with how your mom was as a parent?
- [31:44]
Josie
A thousand percent. I remember I had a boyfriend in eighth grade and it came to the point where my mom was just like, I don't like him. And I was just like, I thought I love him. Like, I was like, she's like, you can't be with him. And I was just like, girl, what? And I was just like, so offended. I remember crying in the kitchen, just sobbing like I. Over Romeo and Juliet. I was just like, sobbing. And I think she knew, but didn't really, like have a sit down talk with me about it. But he was just like mentally and physically abusive. And she through that. And I think me being so delusional, like little. Yeah, I was just like, no, it's not that. Like, I'd come home from school and lie that I got hit by the locker. Like, I'd have bruises and she'd be.
- [32:24]
Alan Ice
Like, as a kid?
- [32:24]
Josie
Yeah, in eighth grade, it was like, it wasn't like he was like, oh, I hate you. Like, he was hitting me. It was like playful fighting that he just took too far.
- [32:32]
Alan Ice
Like, too aggressive.
- [32:33]
Josie
Yes. And I was just like. Because I didn't say anything to my mom because I knew how I played, fought with my brother, but I knew it wasn't that. But I knew she was right because I didn't like obviously try go talking to him after she told me, like, oh, date him. But I think later on when I had found out what he had done to a girl, he had like playfully, like stabbed a girl in her leg and we would.
- [32:55]
Alan Ice
Playfully stabbed?
- [32:57]
Josie
Yeah, like with a knife? Yeah, with the. What is it? With little switchblades, Those little pocket ones. Oh, okay. And he was just like, let's see if it goes through the pillow. And it went through the pillow and it got her knee. And I was just like. And after that, my mom was just like, you are going straight to the car after school when I pick you up, like, blah, blah. And I think that even though I was so young that kind of opened my eyes towards, like, future relationships and, like, what to look for and, like.
- [33:21]
Alan Ice
Those signs, what to accept and what not.
- [33:23]
Josie
Yeah. Because I had a kickback one time also, and he was just, like, going through my closet trying to find me a different strap. I was wearing just, like, a spaghetti strap. And keep in mind, I'm in eighth grade. Like, I'm barely developing. I didn't really have anything. And my mom caught him, and she's like, what are you doing? And he was like, oh, I'm getting her a different shirt. And my mom was just like, well, if I think it's fine, then she's fine.
- [33:41]
Alan Ice
Like, what, the eighth grader?
- [33:43]
Josie
Yeah.
- [33:44]
Alan Ice
What the are you even doing in your room?
- [33:45]
Josie
Yeah. So I think at the end, I was kind of mad at my mom, and I was just like, she just tore apart my life, like, you know, and then she ended up, you know, knowing.
- [33:53]
Alan Ice
Being right. I feel like moms are always right. And I feel like as kids, sometimes we focus on the, oh, you don't want to see me happy, or, you're ruining my life. And then as you get older, you're like, you know what? You actually saved my life, girl. Because it bound. Imagine what would have been of your life if you would have stayed with him. Obviously, you guys were super young, so it helped out that, like, maybe it wasn't your forever. Yeah. But, you know, I'm glad that your mom, even you being that young, she was there to step in and be like, yes or no?
- [34:21]
Josie
Yeah, she was very. My mom was always very attentive when I had even friends over. I never had. I. When we bought her house, I didn't have doors, so I'd have to use a seat to, like, cover it. But then when I finally got doors, my mom was just like, even if you have your girlfriends over, like, unless you guys are changing, like, doors open. Like, even. Like, especially when that guy was there, she's like, doors open. Like, I couldn't hang out with him unless she was there.
- [34:43]
Alan Ice
And I feel like your relationship with your mom has blossomed even more now as an adult, I feel like you guys are like, besties. How do you feel about that relationship?
- [34:50]
Josie
I think it's fun. A lot of it really irritates me when I just see, like, random TikTok moms that, like, comment about my mom as a mother. They're like, wouldn't you rather be a mom instead of a friend? And that was one of the main, main things. Like, growing up is, like, such a core memory because she would repeat it so much that, like, I am not your friend. I'm your mom. Like, I will always be your mom before your friend. Like, you could talk to me about anything, tell me anything, but I am not your friend. And she made that very clear. So I think when people see that, I don't know if they just don't have that bond with their mom, that they think it's so weird that I'm bringing my mom out. Even if my mom wasn't my manager, I would still have her as my plus one at every single event. Because regardless, that's my mom. Yeah, she is. She's so fun. And I think as soon as I turned 21, it was even better because now we, like, I can go be like, let's go to the club girl. Like, we're outside. Like, it's just. It's really fun.
- [35:39]
Alan Ice
Did growing up people, like, in your everyday life, maybe not just online, but, like, maybe friends, family members, did they ever say stuff like that? Like, oh, your mom's acting too much like your friend?
- [35:49]
Josie
We weren't told that, but I feel like on my dad's side, I think that was definitely a thought. Just because my mom. I feel like my mom never lost herself. Being so young. As a mother, I don't think you should automatically just be like, I'm a mom now. I'm going to stop my life. And I feel like my mom. Mom didn't do that. So I feel like she was kind of talked about a lot towards, like, you know, family drama, but I don't think she's.
- [36:12]
Alan Ice
Yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
- [36:15]
Josie
And I feel like that's the thing.
- [36:16]
Alan Ice
You know, I feel like a lot of the time, you know, the moms that get shamed the most, their kids are always either more successful or their kids are always, you know, not the ones getting pregnant at 15, 16. Because you see all the tias, Cheese would never. Senora.
- [36:33]
Josie
This is the first time.
- [36:37]
Alan Ice
It really does happen a lot. Like, or those dias, their girls, their daughters will get pregnant, like, at 15, 16, and then they'll be like, yeah.
- [36:45]
Josie
That'S what some family were starting to say about me because I was. When I started social media, they're like, she's dressing too much for her age. Don't you think she's too revealing? Like, she's growing up too fast. Like, I was considered a fast girl. And it was just because my body was developing way different than my cousins were, so they were just starting to say that about me. And one of the family members that said it, their daughter ended up being the first one pregnant. I was like, you're like, no.
- [37:09]
Alan Ice
I was like, at least it wasn't you, because imagine if it was you.
- [37:12]
Josie
Exactly.
- [37:13]
Alan Ice
It would have just, oh, no cheese. They would have kept with that cheese for years, girl. But I'm glad you're able to have that relationship with your mom then and now, you know, you, you know, not too long ago, you know, your parents went through a divorce. And you know, we've talked about it with your mom on her interview. If you guys have not watched it by n. So you guys can get her pov. And we also had your sister, you know, give us her POV as being the youngest of your pov. You know, you were already of age. You were what? How old were you?
- [37:50]
Josie
I was turning 20.
- [37:51]
Alan Ice
You were 20, but yeah, you were a little older. You know, when everything was going on. Was ever thought growing up like, oh, my parents are going to get divorced eventually. And how did the divorce affect you and your relationship with both of your parents?
- [38:11]
Josie
I was actually the one who told my mom to leave my dad. It was a fat minute, like continuously of them, like being in the same house, but not like just acting like they didn't know each other. And I feel like what I realized recently is that that's so common for some reason in Mexican households. I don't know why. Like, growing up, I always seen my grandma and my grandpa living together, but they acted like they didn't know each other, my aunt to my uncle. So I'm like, what is going on? I thought y' all were married. So I think seeing that and then just seeing unhappy, my mom was. I was just a girl. Leave them like, just leave them like, I, you're not happy. You're sleeping on the couch. He's over here, you know, acting like he doesn't know you. And I think I didn't really like, see it coming, but I did. Like, I was the one who was always vocal for my mom a little bit with my dad because I wasn't scared of my dad. I. I am like my dad. I like to argue. So I think whenever she felt type of way, she was like, no, don't say I was like, no, I'm say it. And I, to this day, I still am like that, that. But I think it did hurt a little bit being the only. Well, I wasn't really the only one. I know they were still like lovey dovey when they and Tessa around, but I feel like since I was the one who kind of got them married because she got pregnant with me. I was just like, damn, this is my fault. Like, I'm just, like, rethinking my whole life. We never really talked about it until she sat me down and was like, I'm not happy with your dad. And I was just like, girl, leave him then. And after I said that, I was like, okay. And she was just like, well, what are we gonna do? Because at the time, well, I was making my own money, but my dad. My dad being so, like, his little toxic masculinity, he just didn't let me really pay for anything. So he was kind of like the private. The provider. Like, the main provider. So I was just like, I'll take care of us. I had enough money saved up from, like, social media. I was like, I'll do it. And then I think when it actually happened, I think I was just more upset at him with the way that he was handling things, because he was just like. I don't think he was expecting it to happen. I think he was just expecting it to be kind of like how everybody else in our family is just, like, together, but not together, doing their own thing. Thing. And I just didn't want that for my mom just because it's like, she's just gonna sit here every day, walk past you. Like, nothing. Like, do you feel like your dad.
- [40:17]
Alan Ice
Maybe thought like, oh, you know what? The combo of divorce is getting brought up a lot, but it's never gonna happen.
- [40:22]
Josie
Yeah.
- [40:23]
Alan Ice
Like, it's like, we're. I'm gonna scare them. Yeah, it's done.
- [40:26]
Josie
That's what.
- [40:26]
Alan Ice
But it's not gonna happen.
- [40:28]
Josie
He would argue with my mom. Say, like, just argue. And then my mom was like, you know what? It was right before we bought our house together, the one that we were building, and my mom was just like, I'm gonna get an apartment for me and the kids. And the next day, my dad signed the papers for the house. And I was like, roy, she just said she was gonna leave, and you're over here? Like, it was kind of like, no, you're not. Like, we're. No one's separating. But he wasn't happy. So it's like, what are you doing?
- [40:50]
Alan Ice
Like, how did you feel, you know, being the oldest and really being more mature and seeing things for what they were? Because I feel like, you know, your sister was what, 14, 16? We've talked about it on her podcast. She was going through, you know, public scandal. She was going through a lot. Your brother Maybe, you know, as men, I like, it's a little different, but how did you feel as the oldest and actually seen things for what they were? Do you feel like it was easier or harder to go through the divorce because you were so much more mature?
- [41:17]
Josie
I feel like it was a little hard just being older. This is all I knew. Like, even though they wouldn't get along, we would still have our family days. So I was just like, okay, now what? Like, it kind of like separated us in a way for a long time. So I was just like, okay, now what? But I think it also, being older now, it kind of showed me what, like, just learning from my parents mistakes on how to handle things, like, with myself and then with, like, future relationships, like, I'm just like, okay, I'm not gonna do this. They wouldn't really talk about their stuff. They would just act like nothing happened. And then the same argument happened again. So I was just like, I'm kind of glad that I'm older now to, like, know to not repeat this within, like, my own relationship. But it was just. It was a lot, I think, that I didn't want to accept because obviously, like, that's all I knew. Like, all my YouTube videos, everyone's always like, oh, bring the family back. Like, the family vlogs back. I'm like, babe, I have no family.
- [42:06]
Alan Ice
Like, this is the family. It's all just you.
- [42:08]
Josie
Yeah. So it's just. It was just hard for a little bit. I think it was just really getting used to.
- [42:12]
Alan Ice
I mean, do you think it was also more stressful than emotionally hard? Because, yeah, you know, we've talked about it with your mom, with your sister, but I remember having a convo with you when you guys were first finding the new house. Like, the first house you guys moved into. Was it very stressful to where you're like, you know what? I can be sad, but I fucking can't.
- [42:31]
Josie
Yeah.
- [42:32]
Alan Ice
Because we gotta fucking deal with finding a home, finding what the fuck we're gonna do next. You feel like it was more stress.
- [42:38]
Josie
I was a thousand times more stressed because me and my mom, it's. It's our money together. So. Because I'm like, I don't. Realistically, I don't want her to work. Everyone's just like, oh, she could work. And I'm like, yeah, I don't want her to, though. That's the point. Like, it's our money. So everything that she was dealing with, my dad, it was coming to me like, hey, this is your money too. This is what's going on? This is how much, like, for the whole divorce, everything. And I was like, girl, yeah. Like, I was so stressed because I was like, girl, I don't know what's going on. Like, it was just so much information on me at once. And I was just. That's what I was rethinking. Why did I tell her to leave him? Because now this is like, can you buy, please? But we ended up figuring everything out. But I think I learned a bunch of new stuff. Just in case I need to know.
- [43:22]
Alan Ice
How is it like, you know, you being the oldest, I feel like, you know, you said it yourself. You told your mom willingly, like, hey, you know what? What I got us. Like, it's okay. Like, I'm gonna almost take the role of my dad, you know? Do you feel like when you said it, it was easier said than done? And what challenges came with you taking over that role?
- [43:43]
Josie
Yeah, I think definitely. Because now, before, my money was. It was my dad providing, and then my money was my money. I had it to spend whatever I wanted. If I wanted a new bag, like, anything. I never bought anything, like, name brand like that, but it was just like, if I wanted to. Being older now, I so could have. Like, I could have bought so many things, but now it literally just rent, bills, and that's all that I'm worried about. And I think that's kind of. It kind of worked out for me because I never really worried about that stuff, but it's, like, made me open my eyes, like, damn. Like, this is not as easy as I thought it was gonna be. Especially. I know people have had, like, way harder. They've had to work since they were younger. But like I said, like, me just spawning in and having to do it was just like, damn. Like, now I know why my dad was stressed with work. Like, it just made me be like, okay, now I'm, like, meant, like, I feel like I'm already, like, the mental age that I feel like I feel like I'm so much older in my head. Like, since I'm having to deal with everything now I feel like an old lady.
- [44:37]
Alan Ice
How was it for you emotionally? You know, Obviously, you were dealing with a lot of stress. You were dealing with a lot of, you know, actual financial problems. But how do you feel like you took the divorce? Do you feel like it was almost like a heartbreak for you as well?
- [44:51]
Josie
Yeah, because I was just like. I think I was more frustrated with my dad because I was just like, bruh, you couldn't get yourself together to Fix your family. Like, it made me mad because I was just like, you want to be such a. A man? You want to be the one. Like, he would take offense if I try to pay for anything. When I had bought my first computer to make, like, my first YouTube videos with my first paycheck from Fashion Nova, I remember, like, wanting to be a big girl. I was like, I'm going to go buy myself a MacBook from Best Buy so I could edit my videos, edit my pictures better. He was so offended that I wanted to do that, like, that I didn't want him to buy it for me, me. And I'm like, let me do this on my own. So I think I was just like, you want to be a man when it comes to, like, shoving it in my face a little bit, like, this is what I did for you. This is what I do. And now when it comes to, like, saving a marriage or, like, keeping your family together, you didn't want to do that, and you just gave up and that was it. I think it just really, like, made me mad because I was just like, what are you doing?
- [45:44]
Alan Ice
Do you feel like your relationship changed not just with your dad, but also with your mom after the divorce? Whether it's, like, negatively with your dad, maybe you guys thought talking for a bit, but also positively with your mom, where you felt like, oh, shit, like, I'm gonna even be there more for her. Maybe you and your mom got close. Do you feel like your relationship with either or changed? If so, in what way?
- [46:05]
Josie
I did stop talking to my dad for a little bit after the divorce because I was just so mad at him. Because I was just like, you're doing everything. But it wasn't even about my mom anymore. I think it was like, you're doing everything but prioritizing your kids. Like, you're willing to sell the house that we're in. You're willing to. I don't know if this was true or not, but, like, over here trying to take my money, like, as a threat to scare me or whatever, like, it was just frustrating me. And I think I was just like, you about him. I was just like, I don't want to have anything to do with you. And then my mom, I think she. Yeah, I think I definitely got closer to my mom because I was just, like, seeing everything that my dad was doing behind closed doors, that I was just like, you.
- [46:39]
Alan Ice
Like, you were like, you don't need that.
- [46:41]
Josie
Yeah. Like, she was over here doing all this for you, like, still, like, thugging it out. Like, putting on a smile for us, and then, like, when we would go to school, like, cry, like, this is what he was doing. And then I think just me being her only friend with her, being in a marriage for 20 years, not having any friends, I think I, like, didn't feel, like, mandatory to be there for her, but I just felt like it was, like, my duty to, like, be there for her, you know?
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Alan Ice
Do you feel like you also had. Aside from being there for your parents, for yourself, do you feel like you also had to, you know, really take on that big sister role and be like, you know what? Like, I want to help. Maybe if you weren't there all the time. But you also felt that duty to help help your siblings navigate the divorce?
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Josie
Yeah, I tried with my brother, but I think him just being, like, a teenage boy, he was like, I don't care. Everything happens for a reason. Like, that was his mindset. And I was just like, okay. The best that I could do is just be there for Tessa, and that's what I tried to do the best. I deal with things very differently. I like to be left alone. Like, even when I did get super emotional about the divorce, I didn't really, like, talk about it with anyone. I didn't tell anyone. I just, in my room, upset, cry, like, oh, my God. Why is this happening? You know? But. But I would just try to talk to Tessa, but she's. I think she's the same way. She likes to bottle up. So I was like, if you want to talk to me, she's like, no, nothing. And I'm like, okay. You're like, all right, I gave you a chance.
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Alan Ice
Let me go deal with my other.
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Josie
Yeah, because I feel like.
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Alan Ice
I mean, it makes sense, you know? I feel like you're also trying to give her her space, but then you also know, like, okay, checked in. But I also got to worry about a lot of, you know, like, if you tell me you're okay, I'm gonna take it as is, and you're fine, but I'm not gonna go worry about me, you know? But, you know, it's crazy. How do you feel like you're doing now with a divorce? Obviously, I feel like it's been, you know, couple years. What, it's been, like, two years? Yeah, it's been, like two years. Do you feel like it's gotten better for you in the sense of, like, healing from that?
- [48:23]
Josie
No. I be seeing TikToks, and I'm like, G. Like, I rewatch my old YouTube videos, and I'm like, oh, my God, I hate my life. Like, I'm just like, ew. But I think realistically, it's been two years, but I feel like both my parents could be in a better place. I think they're both. They. I think they didn't deal with the divorce, and they just went to, like, trying to heal on their own. But I think I am a little better. I just hate. Just. I think I love documenting my life and, like, having everything vlogged so I could be like, oh, show my future family. Like, you know, like, oh, this was my life. And then I go back and look at it, and I'm like, damn.
- [48:57]
Alan Ice
You're like, damn, that was my life. You're like, damn, it was so good. Until it wasn't.
- [49:01]
Josie
Yeah. Yeah. I literally have a YouTube video where my dad was just so angry. Like, that was him on camera. I was just like, damn.
- [49:08]
Alan Ice
Like, damn. I imagine off camera.
- [49:10]
Josie
Exactly.
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Alan Ice
But I feel like it's great, you know, like now because maybe, you know, there was good moments in the family and there was good moments in the marriage, and I'm glad that you were at least able to document some to where you're able to hold those so dear and so close to your heart where you're like, you know what? Like, despite the way everything turned out for what it was, there was happy moments with my family, you know? To close off the topic of divorce, is there any piece of advice that you can give to anyone? Watch. Whether they're the oldest, the youngest, or the person involved in the divorce, what piece of advice can you give anyone watching that is currently going through something similar but feels like it won't get better?
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Josie
Just don't blame yourself. I know. For a fat minute in my room, I was blaming me because I was just like. I feel like everything started to go downhill when I started social media. Social media, just. Honestly, this sounds so corny, but you really do have to just take it day by day. It's not the end of the world. To this day, I'm still going through it. You're gonna have to just deal with the emotions. If you try to block them out and obviously try to just cover everything up, it's going to be 10 times worse, is what I realized. And I think the only way to just get through it is literally by dealing with it and talking about it.
- [50:23]
Alan Ice
Yeah, I really do feel like it is because, you know, sometimes if we get stuck on one thing, then we lose sight on the beautiful things still going on in our life. You know, you're so young you, you're a fiance, which we'll go into that a little bit later. But you have so much beautiful things going on in your life that you could easily let yourself be depressed, let yourself down over, you know, even though it's a big deal over just one thing when you have so many beautiful things to worry about.
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Alan Ice
In school, how would you describe yourself in school? Do you feel like you were smart? Kind of burita? Were you popular? The outcast.
- [53:36]
Josie
I loved school so much. School, I. That was all I looked forward to in elementary school. There was even a time where I loved school so much that as my punishment, my dad was just like, you were being a brat. You can't go to school. And I cried and cried and cried. No. But yeah, school was my favorite. I literally did what I think. What was it called? Like, gate. In elementary school, I was always on honor roll. Middle school, I just had all honors classes except math. I hated math. I was more of like a literature reading type of girl. And then when it came to high school, I took all AP classes. And I think I graduated with the almost. Almost a 4.0. I had like a 3.8.
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Alan Ice
So you're really smart.
- [54:17]
Josie
I love school. I think I liked, like, reading and writing more than anything. But yeah, I was like, not popular. But people did know of me. Like, I think middle school. I just went into middle school just being like, I need to stop being so shy. Like, I need to make friends. And then I think I kind of took that in with me in high school because I was like, I'm gonna be here for four years. I need to make some friends. And I just was cool with everyone. I was, like, friends with, like, all types of groups of people. I was in, like a medical class. I was in media. Like, I was. I was looking media. Yeah. Oh, my God.
- [54:48]
Alan Ice
I had media in 8th grade.
- [54:49]
Josie
Really?
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Alan Ice
Did you ever want to go to college? Was that an option?
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Josie
I did want to, but when I first I went to. Okay, the high school that I went to in Riverside, it had like a. It was called Biomed and it was kind of like the sciences of like, the medical field. And like the first class or the first year, it was like doing like a case, like, like a homicide case. And I wanted to become at the time a coroner or I don't know if it was a coroner, but one of the people that like, dissect the bodies after death to find out why.
- [55:20]
Alan Ice
You got fired when you were like, opening up the frog.
- [55:25]
Josie
Huh? So I was just I did that in high school, actually. Huh. And I just like the medical field. I was like, at least something like that because I couldn't do living people. And my mom always told me, become a doctor. Like, become a doctor. And I was just like, girl, I can't. That's someone's life on.
- [55:38]
Alan Ice
Deal with them when they're dead.
- [55:40]
Josie
Yeah. So I really wanted to do that. But that same year we got introduced to media. I was coming to the school and I was like slowly getting into social media. So I was just like, I feel like media would low key help me, like editing, like, you know, everything. I think that would benefit me. So I think my senior year with both those classes being taken and my senior year I think I took a anatomy, I was just like, well, if I do want to go to college, eventually I'll have my medical classes that I did take. And then because I took AP bio, honors bio, like, I was just like set up for both, but I just didn't want to go to college. I feel like everyone clowned me for that because they're like, oh, what are you gonna do with your life? I was like, girl, I don't know. So that's why I didn't want to put money into it. Like going in, oh, I want to do this. And then later in college, like my second year, I find out I want to do something different. Like, I just didn't want to spend or waste any money. That wasn't.
- [56:31]
Alan Ice
By that time you were already doing social media.
- [56:33]
Josie
Right. So you're. And I was just like, realistically, if I want to do college that bad, there's always online courses, there's community college. It's not the end of the world. I wasn't really like aiming for like a university.
- [56:47]
Alan Ice
Like during high school, middle school, you would get picked on a little bit. And how would you react to you.
- [56:55]
Josie
Getting picked on in elementary school? Middle school was kind of where it was kind of bad. Elementary school, it was mainly for my forehead. I never realized it. And then I got older and I thought about everything they told me in elementary school. Like, damn, I.
- [57:08]
Alan Ice
For this kind of thing, I didn't know about that.
- [57:10]
Josie
Yeah. It wasn't like traumatizing where I'd like, you know, was like so upset. But it was just something that always stuck with me. Like, I feel like that if that was never said, I wouldn't have really ever noticed it. And then second, which is like the stupidest, I feel like the dumbest thing to get bullied for was my boobs. Growing up. And it was just more that I started wearing training bras, I think, in second grade. And so I was, like, developing a little bit f. And it just like got to the point where girls were saying that I had a boob job in, like, middle school, elementary school. And I was like, babe, be so for real. And someone had even commented on Instagram, I remember arguing with a girl and she was just like, yeah, and your mom let you get a boob job in sixth grade? And I was like, whose mom? Yeah. Why are you thinking like. Like, I don't know. It was just the stupidest thing.
- [58:02]
Alan Ice
Did that ever make you insecure?
- [58:03]
Josie
It made me, like, for me, young age, be more aware of my body. And then I already had gotten this talk with the way my body was changing with my mom, like, hey, your body's different from other girls. You're gonna get looks from other people. You don't deserve it. But it's just the world. It's just what's gonna happen. And I think from a young age, I was just always like, a little self conscious because I felt like I was doing too. I felt like I was being more, but I really couldn't control it. So I just felt like I was being a lot at a young age when I really wasn't. I was. I was like, probably like in seventh grade. And I was like, I feel like I'm being a whore just because I have boobs. Like, yeah, your friends not have, like.
- [58:39]
Alan Ice
Big boobs at the time.
- [58:40]
Josie
I don't think. I think I was the one. I was tight. This is when I was like, super tiny and I had like already, like, I was already a D cup. And I was like, in middle school, and I was like, yeah, huh? It was bad because I was just like the only one. And it felt like I was doing stuff on purpose, even to the point. In high school, I had talked about this one time, but my AP Euro class was right next to the soccer boys class. And one of the girls that I had that class with, she had like, she thought the soccer boys were cute, whatever. And you know, like, when you go to school in the morning, it's cold, but by the time first periods done, it's like warm already. The sun's out. So I had my freaking jacket on and the AC was on everything in that class. And when it came down, I took my sweater off. I'm not thinking. I was. This was, I think my sophomore year, and I was just like, whatever about boys. I didn't really care. And she as soon as I took my jacket off, she was like, you know what you're doing? Doing? And I was like, what am I doing? She's like, no, you know what you're doing. And then she zipped up my jacket, and I'm like, babe, I'm not even taking my jacket off. I just zipped it down. And she just kind of got like. You could tell she got butt hurt by that. And then I just, like, zipped it back down. And then I realized where we were, and I was just like, oh, she thinks, like, jealous. Yes. It just gave. Like she thought I was trying to do that on purpose, but realistically, I can't go.
- [59:50]
Alan Ice
They're there.
- [59:50]
Josie
What do you want me to do?
- [59:51]
Alan Ice
Take them off?
- [59:52]
Josie
Even if I have a jacket on, you could see the imprint of what.
- [59:55]
Alan Ice
Girls ever be like, oh, she stuffs them. She stuffs.
- [59:57]
Josie
No, I never got that, actually. Thank God, because, yeah, that would be another job. Plus stuffing. It would have been bad.
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Alan Ice
But do you feel like girls kinda, you know, you. You tell us a story of that girl kind of feeling jealousy or feeling some type of way of you just being you. Did you ever get girls because of you developing fast or, you know, just for being a really pretty girl growing up, do you feel like you got girls kind of, like, hate on you? Growing up in school, it definitely.
- [60:22]
Josie
Definitely. I got called Airpod a lot.
- [60:25]
Alan Ice
Airpod.
- [60:25]
Josie
Because it's.
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Alan Ice
I'm like, airpod. Why?
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Josie
It's because my, like, boobs are like this, and then my butt is, like, little, like, you know, like that. So I was built, like, the big piece of the AirPod, and that was like something new that was, like, called. But I was like, yeah, I was like, okay, I guess. But it's just like, literally the reverse. Like, if you don't have big boobs and you're gonna have a big butt, if you don't have a big butt, you're gonna have big boobs. And that's something. Something, like, I had to come to terms with because that comment would really upset me. Like, just being told that by anybody. I was just like, ew. But it was just like, when I thought about. I was like, you're just calling me this because I have big boobs.
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Alan Ice
You don't gotta.
- [61:02]
Josie
Yeah. When I realized, did you ever have.
- [61:05]
Alan Ice
Like, a moment where you realize, like, you know what? Like, this is who I am. You know, it's not my fault, not my problem. Maybe yours, that mine grew out quicker. But did you ever have, like, a point where you were like, girl, Like, y'. All, like, this is just me mean, like, whatever.
- [61:20]
Josie
I definitely did. I think my senior year, I was just like, girl, I'm. I think it's. When I hit 18, I was like, I'm grown. At the end of the day, I'm gonna have. I've had these boobs for so long. What am I gonna do with them? And I would wear just tank tops to school. Like, I would wear what any other girl would wear, but it just looked worse on me because of my body.
- [61:38]
Alan Ice
But I just looked more noticeable.
- [61:40]
Josie
Yeah. Oh.
- [61:40]
Alan Ice
Where people maybe thought you were doing.
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Josie
It, like, on purpose, which is crazy.
- [61:45]
Alan Ice
The fact that you were getting bullied.
- [61:46]
Josie
Over that as a kid, that's why I'm like. It's kind of like. It's ironic. Like, I'm getting bullied for that is just.
- [61:52]
Alan Ice
I think it's crazy. You know, I feel like I. I. We've seen it happen so many times, and it's crazy. But I'm glad, you know, you're here, because I feel like a lot of the time, you know, bullying can get to people really bad to where, you know, things can happen, though, that you. In school, during eighth grade, you also started your social media career. You've been doing this for almost, if not more than 10 years now, which I. Crazy. You practically have grown online. I know we talked about it very briefly on the last episode. What made you be like, you know what? I'm gonna grab my phone, record myself, because I want to be a YouTuber, musically, artist, or whatever it was at the time. What made you start social media? And what was your first viral moment that made you feel like, damn, I can really do this.
- [62:44]
Josie
Oh, my God. From, like, as long as I could remember, I always had a. For, like, the Internet, really quick story time. Like, I just was always, like, on the computer doing stuff. And there was a point, I don't know if, you know, like, Movie Star Planet and, like, Vantage, like, the little Avatar games. I used to play those. And there was a chat room. This is so embarrassing.
- [63:06]
Alan Ice
The tiny URL.
- [63:07]
Josie
Yeah, it was like some. It was like fantagecheese.com it was like a chat room, and I would talk in it every single day. My mom did not know what I was doing, and I was just talking, talking. And there was a point where I was, like, using fake pictures and, like, pretending to be somebody else. So I feel like the people in the chat room thought I was older, and it came to a point where they were just like, oh, show me your. Show me your Tony's or your whole family's gonna get killed. I was like. I was like, hey. And I was like, no, I'm gonna save my family right now. So I. I'm panicking. I'm like, he. My mom, I don't know where she is. She's in her room, and I'm running and. And I ran to my room, got a pair of, like, my little. Oh, my God. It's probably like the one with the weekdays on it or something. And I hold it up to the camera, and then I seen the camera go off, and I'm like, what just happened? Next thing you know, the chat is flooded. And they're, like, laughing at me. They're like, lmao. Lol. I'm so dead. And it was a picture of me with my Tonys in my hand. And I was like. So they probably did not expect me to actually see.
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Alan Ice
They probably thought you were trolling.
- [64:08]
Josie
Yeah.
- [64:08]
Alan Ice
Yeah.
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Josie
I think when they saw I was like, little kid, they were like, so ever since then, I was just. You know, I love the Internet. And I got more into it when it came to, like, social media. Social media influencers. I was always, like, just so involved. I remember I even came to the point where I was making, like, a bunch of Internet friends, and for, like, a. Like, we all had a group chat for this one specific influencer, and my mom was just, like, so against it. She was like, my account was private. She didn't let me have it public at all.
- [64:36]
Alan Ice
That was like a fan page type of thing.
- [64:38]
Josie
I had my own account. And then I made friends with the fan page, like, fan pages. And then I made my own fan page. But my account at the time was, like, private. Because my mom just did not believe in, like, public. Like, that's how people find you. And she swore that every single person that I was talking to was a grown man trying to kidnap me. And I was just like, girl, bye. No. And then I remember being dramatic. One time I texted in a group chat. I was like, this is the end. My mom's making me leave the group chat, making me leave the fandom, and then come to find out we're all still, like, we're still friends, like, with all these Internet friends. But I think I was, like, 12 at the time. And then eighth grade, I think I was just posting more. I was like, everyone, like, acted so cool in eighth grade. Like, they would have zero posts. Like, profile picture. Like, they post. And I think I was the only one who would, like, post. I would get ready in My room just take pictures. And in my eighth grade yearbook, it literally just says, bye, famous Josie. Famous Josie, will you talk to me again? So I think after like seeing that, I was just like, okay. I like, they see. They see a potential. And halfway through my eighth grade year, I went to a meet and greet. I went to two meet and greets. I went to one meet and greet, met all the influencers, and then from then on, I kind of made mutuals with their friends. And then so the next meet and greet I went to, they knew me already. They were like cutting line. Yeah. They're like, oh, Josie, how are you? Like, they're all talking to me. I remember even Blessed was there. Oh, my God.
- [65:56]
Alan Ice
Bless. Oh my God. You guys go back.
- [65:58]
Josie
Yeah, I've known him that long. Oh, my God. And I was just like, oh, like, now that I think about it, that's so embarrassing. But I remember him being there like real owner.
- [66:07]
Alan Ice
That also came up during that time.
- [66:09]
Josie
Right? That's when. That's how we clashed at the time, like that. So that meet and greet happened and the person that I went to go see at that meet and greet, they ended up saying, oh, hey, can me? And so, so come over. And I was just like, you want to come to my house? After I just paid, like, I thought they were celebrities at the time. And I told my mom and my dad and my dad was just like, well, could you have your $30 back since they're coming to the house.
- [66:30]
Alan Ice
They're coming to meet you now, bitch.
- [66:32]
Josie
So after that, I just kind of like took advantage and then we all followed each other. And then I was kind of like the fan that was known for being like friends with them.
- [66:41]
Alan Ice
Okay, okay.
- [66:42]
Josie
So after that, I just ended up meeting my friend at the time who was also mutual mutuals with them, but he had like just as much followers. And we ended up talking. He posted a picture with me, tagged me. And then back then, you know how it was so easy to like gain. Everyone just followed me from there. And then the rest just. That is. That's how it happened.
- [67:03]
Alan Ice
Do you remember like the first moment where, you know, obviously you go viral, but that could have been just that, you know, obviously you're like, oh, I gotta, you know, jump on the wave. I gotta continue posting. Was there ever a moment when you started continuing posts and you started gaining following where people around you were like, girl, that ain't a real job. That ain't gonna make you shit. Were there ever people that were kind of like against what you were Doing my parents.
- [67:26]
Josie
My mom was very supportive when it was like a summer thing. It was, I think right before COVID It was my. Yeah, it was my. Was it. I was going in my freshman year and my mom was just like, she was helping me get ready during the summer. Like, she's just seen it as like something girly, taking pictures, pose. Taking pictures, posed. And then when it came to me going into high school, she was just like, I don't care if you think you have this social media thing going for you. You've always done school. You're going to continue to do school. You're not going to like, is there any time when everyone was like dropping out of school to go to LA and moving there? So my mom was just like, no. My dad was just like, this isn't a real job. Like, you know him working with cars and everything. He was not taking it serious. And then I think when I got my first brand deal, my mom and dad were like, oh, okay, this is your first brand, Fashion Nova. It was because of my mom. It was because my mom, yeah, she seen that I had potential and she was like reaching out to everyone for me through my account. And it just ended up. It was like I was really like a hit or miss with Fashion Nova because I knew at the time, like, that was huge for me. Like, so huge. I was so small for an influencer. So when I got my first thing, I was like, hell yeah. And then I did pretty little thing. And then it just kept going from there and I was just like, and.
- [68:35]
Alan Ice
Now it's your full time job. Which is crazy. You know, obviously you start blowing up during middle school. Do you feel like your school life changed after you became so popular online? If so, in what way?
- [68:46]
Josie
I think eighth grade, Everything. Everyone, like, it was like the start of everything. So everyone was just kind of like in awe. Everyone was like, oh, famous Josie. And then we all to different high schools. And my freshman year, it was a little odd. I had like five people, I think within the whole year come up to me for pictures. I was like, this is weird. We go to school together. Like, I'm gonna see you, girl.
- [69:04]
Alan Ice
Yeah.
- [69:05]
Josie
But I think after that, everyone that I went to, it was like a different district thing. So everyone that I went to high school with, I ended up going to elementary school with. So I already knew everyone, and everyone already knew what I did. So it wasn't weird. Like, I have up to my senior year, like vlogs up to my senior year where I'm just like, it's like, nothing.
- [69:23]
Alan Ice
Take it too serious.
- [69:24]
Josie
Yeah, that one, like, was like, oh, my God, she's weird. Like, I feel like nowadays it's not like that either because everyone's vlogging. But I think I was a little nervous because I was like, I feel like everyone's gonna think I'm weird, but no one cared. My freshman year, I remember going to, I think, like, a high school party. Oh, girl. I was trying to be out. Like, I knew I was in social media, but I didn't want to be. Like, I still wanted to do normal stuff. I didn't want to be, like, the bougie. Oh, I only do Instagram, like, that thing. So I did go to a high school party, but for a different high school. And I just, like, I. This is how nice am. I'm not, like, confrontational like my mother. And I just remember hearing, like, oh, she's so catfish. Like, oh, like, just hearing stuff. And I was just, like, just standing there. Just.
- [70:01]
Alan Ice
Wait. They didn't say that.
- [70:02]
Josie
Yeah, they said it at that party. I just acted like nothing because realistically I thought about it. I was like, where's this gonna go?
- [70:07]
Alan Ice
Yeah. Like, what the Are they.
- [70:08]
Josie
What's gonna happen?
- [70:08]
Alan Ice
What are they gonna do? Yeah, like, it's stupid. Did you ever get in any fights during school?
- [70:14]
Josie
Okay, so everyone knows, and everyone watching knows I'm definitely not a fighter, okay? But to this day, I still think I. It was so stupid. This altercation in middle school was so, so, so dumb. I think it was just little kid stuff. Just two girls just hearing stuff from other people about, oh, she doesn't like you, she doesn't like you, and why. It was all because of a man. He wasn't even a man. It was a little boy. It was about the same ex that I had, the. The one that she told me to break up with. And it was just because we. She. It was her ex. We went to different middle schools, but it was her ex. And I was now dating him. Him at the time, and we were just hearing stuff, and I think people were trying to make us not like each other just because, like, oh, she was with him and now you're with him. When, realistically, we didn't really know each other. We were just mutuals, I think, at one point on Instagram. So we were just hearing stuff, and we were just going with it. But the only time I would, like, hear her talk crap was from her friends. And my mom was just like, I don't know if she's gonna try to Jump you when she's with her friends or something. Like, my mom was just worried about me because she knew I couldn't do it, do anything on my own. She knew it. And I don't know why, but it came to the point where the girl. She's a beautiful girl now, that the girl was just like, come to the park. And I was like, mom, you're like, yeah. And I was like, damn, I gotta go. So my mom took me and me and my. It was just me and my friend. It was us three. And we get there, there's, like, two. Three cars filled with people. And they brought, like, a whole. It was like a whole kickback. And I was like, oh, my God.
- [71:39]
Alan Ice
They brought an audience.
- [71:40]
Josie
Yeah. And I was like, oh, my God, am I gonna get jumped right now? So I was scared whole car ride. I'm biting off my acrylics because my mom was just like, jocelyn, if you get beat up, I'm gonna beat you up at home. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, I. It wasn't like, I gotta try. Yeah. Yeah. I was so scared. So I just sat there numb. And I was like, what am I gonna do? I've never been in this situation. I've never even been allowed to, like, fist fight.
- [72:02]
Alan Ice
Was that my first fight?
- [72:03]
Josie
Yes. I've never been able to fist fight my brother or my sister. Like, I was never able to play around like that. So I don't know why she would take me. And. Yeah, it's not cute. So I didn't get beat up this time. I don't know. I feel like it was equal, but. Yeah. So we're just in the grass, just, like, deciding who's gonna hit first. So I was just like, okay, well, I'm really scared. And I've always been taught not to hit first, but I was just like. We're just standing there looking at each other. So I just. She grabbed my hair, and then I just swung. And then. I don't really remember anything. I remember her going to the back of my head, and I was just really confused. And I was just. I heard my mom, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm scared. So I was just like. I felt so bad. I wanted to say sorry, because that's not me.
- [72:46]
Alan Ice
I get up my whole.
- [72:47]
Josie
Literally, I was just so, like, just scared of everything. And then while I guess we were fighting, my mom was fighting her mom. And then after we fought, they fought again. And then we just left, like, nothing.
- [72:58]
Alan Ice
And it was like, did the problems clear up at Least, yeah, I've.
- [73:01]
Josie
We've seen it. That party where I got talked crap to, where the girl was like, catfish. She was there. Oh, my God. I was so, like, round two. I was nervous because that was, like, my first high school party, and she was a little, like, tipsy, so was like, she came up to me. She's, like, telling people. I don't know who was looking at us, but she's like, we fought, but that's in the past. And I was like, thank God.
- [73:20]
Alan Ice
You're like, yes, the homegirls now. What do you feel are the pros and cons of social media? And also, you know, how do you deal with being in the limelight and having your whole family be so public?
- [73:33]
Josie
Like, the thing that I love the most about doing social media with my family is that it's us together. I feel like when you work with other people that aren't your family, it's kind of hard because. Because you just, like, get into each other's heads a little more often, and it, like, kind of comes off personal. And I think with it being my family, it's just like, we're in this together. It's a family thing. No one's gonna betray us. Like, it's just us together. And I think it's just more authentic for my content as well, because, like, I've done situations where I have to do, like, TikToks with people that I don't really know, and I'm just like, it's awkward. Yeah, it's awkward as hell. And I'm just like, oh, my gosh. But I think that is definitely a pro. I love doing it on all of us and us kind of coming up together and then us, like, not also being known as just like, oh, they're just siblings. I love that we're all like, even my mom, she's her own person. My brother, he's his own person. My sister, but yet we're still, like, together.
- [74:27]
Alan Ice
You guys need a reality show at this point.
- [74:30]
Josie
I don't know what's going on with that. I thought we was doing it, and I don't know what happened, but I.
- [74:33]
Alan Ice
Want to do it.
- [74:34]
Josie
I want. Realistically, I want to. I think that's so fun, but I think it's so much more authentic. Just as a creator and, like, seeing my family, I think if we were the ones to film my art ourselves, if that makes Vlog style. Yeah. I think Vlog style kind of like film, like, the Office, that type thing.
- [74:51]
Alan Ice
Okay.
- [74:52]
Josie
I feel like when we tried filming for that, I think it was just a little hard because we're used to each other filming each other. And I think when it was like different people coming in the film, it was kind of like, okay, now what do we do? Like, it was a little awkward. That's why I feel like if I locked in, it's me, because I'm the one who films everything. I feel like if I did it, it would be easier. But then again, I feel like I. Since I do this all the time, I wouldn't be taken as serious to film like a whole episode myself. So I think. I don't know, I think they just need to have faith in me and then maybe I could do it for us. But I don't know.
- [75:20]
Alan Ice
You know, about social media and the fact that, you know, you grew up on social media. You know, we talk about the pros and the cons. You know, I want to talk about something that was a big topic last year that I feel like shouldn't have been, because first of all, why are people talking about something that they shouldn't be talking about? But, you know, you had a lot of people coming at you for your weight gain. You know, I feel like, because they saw you grow on social media, media since you were little, you've always been a very small, petite girl. And, you know, you. You've talked about it that you got on birth control. You were also going through your parents divorce and you gained some weight, you know, and it was like the topic for everyone, like, oh, my God, what happened to Josie? Que pasos? Momentos? What happened? What made you gain weight? And how did you feel when you started seeing people online, you know, talk about it in the way they were talking about it?
- [76:14]
Josie
I think always growing up, I didn't really, like, want to believe it or kind of accept it, but I feel like even before I had gained weight, I knew I had, like, a little bit of, like, body dysmorphia. I just like, even being so skinny, I was like, oh, I need to go to the gym. I need to get like a big butt or I'm too fat. And I was already so little. So I think already having that toxic mindset and then seeing everything that I was seeing after didn't really help, but I think I got on. Everyone likes, for some reason, everyone's body is different on birth control, but everyone likes to also hate on me for being on birth control. And realistically, that is the last. Like, I'm just already a paranoid person. So it's like double on, double Protection. Like, I'm just scared, girl. Like, it was just like a. Just for me in my head because that. No. No kids right now. No. And I think I just took that precaution myself because I was an adult with my mom and I talked to her living in her house. I was just like, hey, girl, I'm like, you know, this is what's going on in my life. And she was like, okay, well, I would be comfortable if you got on birth control. How do you feel about that? And I was like, oh, honestly, that sounds like a good idea. Let's do it. And I thought I was being mature, I was being smart, whatever. And then I didn't realize how it was affecting my body until my mom kind of pointed it out. And I already had, like a binge eating problem. Like, my mom would be like, not. Like, she wasn't like a toxic almond mom. Like, oh, you just ate. Like, she would notice when I was overdoing it because I would eat and then eat again. And she was just like, jocelyn, you just ate. Like, are you still hungry? Like, she was just, like, genuinely concerned. And I noticed I got like, like that when I was, like, starting to get in, like a depressed episode again. Like, I was just like, super anxious. And I was like, whatever, I don't care about anything. I'm eating. And that's what kind of happened. Like, during the divorce, I got on birth control right when I found out they separated. And I think with that happening and then the whole family getting canceled, I was just like, you know what? I'm just going to stay home, mind my business, and I'm just going to eat. And I got into a relationship, so we were just going out to eat all the time I was eating and I was just not thinking about how much I was eating and being. Being so little. My whole life, I never thought that I would, like, just randomly, oh, gain weight. I was just, like, so used to eating a lot and, like, not anything happened to me. But then again, that was also when I was going to school. I was in PE every single day. So I think the one time that I wasn't being so active and it all just hit me at once, like, just my weight gain, like, boom. And I was just like, like, you didn't see it gradually going up gradually at all. And I think those are the worst. Yes. And I think when I had seen it, I was like, oh, my God. Like, I. I felt like I lost myself. Like, I. It was like a little bit of happy weight at the same time. But I was also like, I kind of just stopped prioritizing myself. I stopped going to the gym. Like, I just stopped everything. Actually. I. When I gained my weight, I was going to the gym. So I was confused. So that made me like, anti gym because I was just like, okay, if I'm going to the gym, am I gonna keep getting big? Like, I'm confused. But it wasn't necessarily. I remember getting. Getting canceled for this because someone. Or not canceled, but like, someone tried to cancel me when I made my, like, weight loss post. And they're like, this is so fat phobic of you. And I'm like, babe, me being proud of myself. I. I think I just got to a point where I wasn't happy with myself. And for me to realize it and do something about it, that's why I made my post. And someone was just like, trying to do their magic and try to.
- [79:22]
Alan Ice
You weren't even that big just because.
- [79:24]
Josie
It wasn't that big to you. I wasn't happy with myself. And it got to a point where I stopped posting, posting. I stopped for a minute getting brand deals because I just wasn't confident anymore. And it wasn't because of the comments at all. Like, realistically, I know people talk regardless. When I was skinny, it was, oh, you're not. You need to eat more now that I was bigger. Oh, eat less. You're doing like, you're so big now. Like, it was just. There's no winning with it. So I was just like. Not like, I didn't really care with what the Internet was saying. It was annoying that it was something that was so talked about when it really shouldn't have been. Because realistically, it's birth control. Everyone knows you're gonna get the same. Same kind of side effects that you get when you're pregnant a little bit. Like, I just was, like, annoyed that people, like, just felt the entitlement to everything. And I was just like, girl, you know, it's one click away. Like, oh, why is she so big now? Look it up.
- [80:09]
Alan Ice
But even if it wasn't birth control, it's like, why the are y' all talking about my weight? I'm sure. You know what, it's crazy because. And I gotta say this because I feel like sometimes even my newer followers don't realize that I was big. So I'm able to say, ah. I'm like, but back in the day, I used to. My number one hate comment, if y' all remember, 2016, 2018, Allen, my number one hate comment was how big I was pinch gordo. Pinch gordo, estro. And a lot of the time, the people that would hate on me est. And I'm like, what do you mean that my weight's a problem? You're, like, twice as big as me. It really is like that sometimes where it's like, girl, mind your own business. You go to the gym, let me live in peace, you know? Did it ever get to a point where, like, you know, obviously, the comments. You said no, that the comments didn't get to you, but did it ever get to a point where, like, you were almost not bullied into, like, you know, trying to look better, but almost, like, subconsciously you're like. Like, yeah, they want me to look a certain way, so I gotta almost, like, get my together.
- [81:15]
Josie
I think it was, like, not. It was a little bit more. I think I was just like, damn, this is affecting me mentally to the point where I can't even work right now. Like, I was just so. Like, I would wear outfits. Everyone at one point was calling me the faja mask faster, because I was. And I was, okay, what about it? I need to change my weight. Yeah.
- [81:34]
Alan Ice
Different colors.
- [81:36]
Josie
Yeah. But it came to that point, I was like, okay, whatever. But I think I just got to the point I was editing my birthday vlog of my 21st birthday, and I was like, oh, my God, I am not happy looking back at myself. I think then it was kind of like my clicking point with what everyone was saying. I was like, they're right. Like, I don't. Like, I don't know how I wasn't seeing it. And then it was just like, okay, I need to get. Get myself together. And then I was just, like, looking back at when I first met my fiance, and I was like, oh, my God. I feel like I him over. Like, I'm catfish now. Like, oh, my God.
- [82:08]
Alan Ice
He thought he got a bad. I mean, you were still baddie. Yeah, I feel like, you know, I think that's all mentally, though, because I feel like, you know, maybe you weren't seeing it as soon as you started seeing the comments, but then it hit you all at once, and I feel like, like I said earlier, that's the worst, because when they were calling me fat, I was like, y'. All. Like, all y'. All. And now that I'm thinner, I used. I don't say it anymore because I'm like, no. They would tell me. I. I used to say, why did you let me get this big? We would tell you, and you would get mad, and I'm like, you're right, you're right, you're right. But shut the fuck up. Don't. Yeah, because I feel like weight is like one of those things where it's like, okay, like whatever, it's noticeable. Like, yeah, he or she gained weight, but it's something that it's like you don't know what they're going through. You don't know the mental battles or how they already see them. That why the hell are you making it worse for those people? You know, to finish that topic on weight, you know, what piece of advice can you give to anyone watching at home that has gone through a significant weight gain or a significant weight loss where they feel like they've lost themselves due to comments or just how they see themselves?
- [83:15]
Josie
Your body is not stuck. Like I was 20 years old and look at how fast my body developed. You do not need to get upset about why you look like this or why you don't look like that. Because at the end of the day, day it's about you and how you feel comfortable with yourself. At the end of the day, no one's on the Internet or anybody. They're gonna have a say about anything. You could always realistically do something about the way that you feel about yourself. And that's what I learned with literally the gym. Eating right, you have to take into consideration if you really want it to be a certain way, you'll make it happen.
- [83:49]
Alan Ice
Exactly, you guys. And don't be too hard on yourselves over someone's opinion. It really, you know, you shouldn't be taking opinions from people that don't really matter. Life, you know. Yeah. You know, I'm moving on to my last topic, which I feel like it's a good ass topic because this one you guys, I don't really know much about. Obviously you've been saying your fiance. I don't think I've ever met him. I don't really think, you know, you guys talk about your guys relationship too much online. I feel like you really do have a private relationship, which is great, especially sharing so much online. How did you guys meet? Who made the first move? What made you gravitate towards him at first and how did you guys make it official?
- [84:40]
Josie
So me and my fiance, it's so, it's so perfect for this generation. We met on a dating app, we met on Hinge, and from there we were just kind of getting to know each other. During the time that I had met him, I had like, I did like a tick tock series where I finally turned 18. I was like, I can go on dates now. I'm grown enough to go on dates. So I was going on dates with people really quick. I know this is so bad to talk about while I'm talking about him, but I even had one really bad first date with someone where we had went to dinner. He had begged me for this date. So I'm like, okay, let's go. Like, this is just. Yeah, pity out of me to be nice. Let me do it. Give you the chance. We go on the state. He. We get to the dinner, nice restaurant, Italian restaurant. He's like, I forgot my card at the club. Can you pay? And I'm like, this is why I didn't even want to give you the chance. And I'm like, what? And he's like, I'll send you the money. I just don't have my card because they didn't do Apple pay. So I was like, okay. I put my card down. He sends me the money. So it's not like he didn't send it to me. Whatever already. Then I wanted to go home because.
- [85:43]
Alan Ice
I was, like, coming prepared.
- [85:46]
Josie
Yeah, exactly. And that should have been a red flag to me. You left your card at the club. What? So I was just like, you. This was like a year or two year before my fiance. Then after, he's like, oh, I want to take you to the movies too. So I'm like, okay, dinner in the movies. We go up to the movies. He's looking at me like, as if to pay. And I'm like, what? And he looks at me. He's like, oh, because he came from la. He's like, oh, I have to come all the way from la, pay for dinner and the movies? And I'm like, yeah, you asked me out. So I looked at him, and I'm like, either you're gonna pay or I'm not going in. Like, what? So he paid, and like, 20 minutes into the movie, I was like, okay, I have to go home. My mom texted me, and he dropped me off. And I was like, I am never speaking to this.
- [86:23]
Alan Ice
Yeah, you're like that. Yeah.
- [86:25]
Josie
So after that, I. I was very traumatized with meeting people. I went on another day. You could tell he was kind of, like, moving fast. And I was just like, ew. No. So when I met my fiance in Hinge, the way we were texting, it felt, like, just so natural. Like, I was just like, whoa. Like, I feel like I could be myself with him. And the jokes were very like, he has my humor. And I was Just like, I like this a lot. And it wasn't like intense or anything. It was literally just like flirting here and now. But like, it was like, okay.
- [86:52]
Alan Ice
Keeping you on your toes.
- [86:53]
Josie
Yeah.
- [86:54]
Alan Ice
I want to know more.
- [86:55]
Josie
It was very casual, but it was enough to like, keep me interested. Interested. And after like a week or two we had planned, it wasn't a date because I just didn't want it to come off, like, so intense right away. Because when it's a date, like, I feel like. Like a kiss.
- [87:08]
Alan Ice
It's a hangout and if I get a pay, I won't feel that bad.
- [87:11]
Josie
Yeah. So it was just like, I was like, I feel like with the first date, guys are just like feel obligated to get a kiss or something. So I'm just like, let me just make it very casual. Especially like this, our first time meeting and I was scared because I was just like, oh, my God, is he catfishing? Like, I don't know, girl. But we met and I was just like, oh, my God, he's so cute. Like, he looked exactly like his pictures. I was just like, oh, my God, I love him. But I was like, let me calm down, because I say that about every man. I mean, I need to stop. So we went to Yard House. It was very casual. It was like a Friday. Everyone was there. He literally drove all the way from LA just to pick me up. We ate, nothing crazy. I thought he was going to want to hang out. After we ate, he just dropped me off and went home. And I was like, that's it. I was like, that's it. Okay, whatever. And then after that, we just didn't talk anymore. So it was like a good first meeting and then that was it. And then we didn't talk for like almost a year. And we kind of got back in contact. We just followed each other still, but we never really talked. And he was just there and I was just like, you know what? I know he's cute still. Like, I'm just gonna text him.
- [88:10]
Alan Ice
Like, the year didn't do him that way.
- [88:12]
Josie
So we had talked about going to the movies and it never really went through. So the weekend, I think that we were supposed to go, but, like, we were both like, being flaky with each other and I was just like, fuck it, I'm gonna just text him. And I was just like, wait, so we still go into the movies Friday. He was just like, oh, my God, you literally just woke me up. Like, that text woke me up. And I was like, oh, my God, we're Meant to be right now. Like, oh, my gosh. So then we planned it, and I was just like, I could. I'll only go if we hold hands. Like, I was low key being, like, a flirt to see what he would do. And then he was just like, duh. And then we get. Oh, my God. We get to the movies. We are not even. First he was late to pick me up, and then we get there, and we were like this the whole time. Like, in the movie scene.
- [88:51]
Alan Ice
You're not gonna hold my hand.
- [88:52]
Josie
I was nerv. I was all talk with him, like, oh, we're gonna kiss. We're gonna do this. We literally did not talk.
- [88:57]
Alan Ice
No action.
- [88:58]
Josie
Yes. Like, not even hold hands. And we barely, like, touched, like, pinkies, like, towards the end of the movie right before it ended. And then after that, he just dropped me off, and I was just like, you know what? I think I like him. Like, I like him a lot. And after that, we just kept talking. We started to hang out more, and it just from there became what it is. He asked you out? He. It wasn't really, like, formal. I think I was just more fed up with, I think, being so, so young. I had. I wasn't a hoe, but I had a lot, like, a lot of experience with talking to boys. Like, talking stages, failed dating stages. And I was just tired of the, like, oh, what are we? I was, like, in a talking stage for, like, a year, being so stupid and delulu thinking, like, oh, well, he likes me. I'll just keep it as, like, over talking. And I had talked to my mom, and she was just like, if you guys like each other, I don't get why you aren't dating. And I was like, you know what, period queen, let's figure this out. So I talked to him and we talked. One day, it was like I gave him a birthday gift. I gave him, like, a house hat with my initial on it. And I was like, you like me? He's like, yeah. And I was like, well, I like you. He's like, yeah. I said, so why aren't we dating? He goes, do you want to date? And I was like, yeah. I said, so, we're boyfriend and girlfriend. He was just like, yeah. And it wasn't, like, really formal, but after that, I was like, okay, can I go tell my mom? Because we were in my room and then I told her. She was looked at me like, are you sure? Because this was like, my real.
- [90:14]
Alan Ice
Like, yeah, as an adult. Yeah.
- [90:17]
Josie
So long. Like, I hadn't dated anybody and I was just like, yeah, I'm sure. And then from there I was just like, just nervous. And I feel like that's why I was automatically kind of like private about it. Because I think being on social media and seeing all these social media couples and then even me being like a product of a social media couple, I did not like how you're with someone for like a month and then you guys break up and then you guys are stuck together for the rest of your lives. Like, I just didn't like that. And I think with this being him not doing social media, I was just like, I don't know how this is going to go. I don't want to be too excited and ruin everything. So I gave it a few months until I like kind of made it announced that I was like, oh, I'm taking.
- [90:55]
Alan Ice
Was that like a conversation you guys both had? Like, hey, you know what? Like, I don't want you to feel like I don't want to share you. Or I don't want you to feel like I'm keeping you a secret because I'm doing all this other stuff. Or was he very much like, you know what, I don't really care to be on social media either. What was that like when it came to like showing each other off online?
- [91:14]
Josie
I think with him, him, he is so. Well, what I came to learn is that he's so nonchalant. When I came to him, I just told him I was just like, look, I've been through a lot online, social media wise, and I just don't want to put anything publicly out there. I'll do like, oh, secret but. Or what it like private but not a secret. Like, I'll do that because I want, like, I am proud that we're together. You are my man. Like, I didn't want to have the thought of failure in my head, but I me just being so paranoid. I was just like, I'm sorry, Scared just in case. Like, I'm so used to these guys do me dirty. I'm scared he's gonna do me dirty or if I find something out. Like, I don't know what could happen. So prior to that, I didn't mind posting him. He didn't care if I did or didn't post him. And I didn't care either. Just because it's like we're testing the waters. We're still figuring everything out. But I think when it came to the point where I finally, I don't remember my final, like my first post of him, I think it was my sister's birthday. Like, it was like the pictures, like, strip of us. And after. After that, I was just like, yeah, whatever, you're locked in. I think us being together through my parents divorce, kind of him being there for me brought us together a little bit because he was just there at a really bad time of my life. And I was just like, I really.
- [92:20]
Alan Ice
Almost helped you heal or process everything you were going through. And I feel like being online, I feel like that's the best way to, like, have it. I was with my man three, four years before I even showed his face. You know what I mean? And we were already living together. Although those three, four years before I even would show him, people knew I had a boyfriend. You know, if you would see me out in public and I was with him, I wasn't gonna be like, oh, I'm not. Yeah, who the is that? Like, they would see him, but I would never publicly post it because like you said, I feel like it gets to a point where you know how social media is, and if you're so public about something that maybe at the time you're not 100 sure of, it's something that you're gonna hear forever. Forever. They're gonna be like, what happened with him? Or, what's the tea? Or now we want to go to him to hear the tea. Like, oh, I want to make sure everything's good. You know, obviously you keep saying fiance, and you guys are engaged, which I feel like when you guys announced it, everyone was like, wait, are you kidding? Are you for reals? Because, you know, nowadays, especially being in the influencer world, you know, whenever things like that happen, you know, people are posting it. People are making these videos, making sure they have a videographer recording the beautiful moment. Tell us a little bit more about the engagement, how it happened, and why did you both decide to keep it very private to you guys?
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Josie
I think everyone at the time when they found out I was engaged, everyone was more mad at me at the fact that I didn't do anything grand. And I think with that, I had told him, I was just like, look, I didn't want to scare him, but I just knew me at the point in my life, I was. And I know I'm young, but I was just like, look, I've been there. I've done this. I'm tired of just talking to people, getting to know people emotionally, physically, and then it just restarting and doing this again with somebody else. Like. Like, I want to date to Mary. And I don't know if this is gonna scare you, but this is what I'm looking forward to. And I was just like. So I don't know if you want to keep talking. Like, this is before we, like, kind of announced, like, we were dating. I was like, I don't know if you want to keep talking, but that's my goal for us if we are to stay together. He's like, that's mine, too. And I was just like, okay, fine, we're getting married. And Mom's laughing with that and with that. When I talked about it, I think it was, like, just kind of during the time when, like, everything about my family was being blasted on the Internet, so much drama was happening, and I was just like, if you were to propose, I want it intimate between us. I think it was perfect for us. We're just so. We're literally. We're so opposite, but, like, we're so the same, or, like, we're both socially awkward. So I don't know how I would have done that if everyone was, like. If my mom was there. I think I would have been, like, embarrassed, or if, like, you know, I wanted that. That moment to be between us just because we're. We're the same. We're both socially awkward. So I feel like it was. It made sense for the both of us. But, yeah, it was cute. He didn't even know. He was just like. He asked me. He was like, what knee do I get on to ask you? I was like, boy, I don't know.
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Alan Ice
Research.
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Josie
Yeah. But, yeah, it was. It was cute.
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Alan Ice
How. How did you feel right after? You're like, oh, my God, I'm a fiance.
- [95:13]
Josie
Yeah. It was talked about a couple months prior because he had asked my mom for her blessing. He didn't get to ask my dad because it was at a bad time with my dad. And I was just like, no, don't talk to him. I. It was just, like, so surreal because I know it was just, like, so obviously so early in our relationship, but I just knew, like, I'd rather that, like, to know that he wants to marry me then, oh, we're just boyfriend and girlfriend for so long because I was just. I think me just so many problems and being so traumatized. I was like, I would rather know now than, you know, then get fucked over. Yeah.
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Alan Ice
Do you guys live together right now?
- [95:48]
Josie
No.
- [95:48]
Alan Ice
Do you guys want to, like, before getting married?
- [95:50]
Josie
Yeah, eventually. That's why. Why Everyone was, like, clowning on me, like, oh, you guys don't even live together and you're already like, engaged. I'm like, babe, I'm lucky that he wants to be engaged to me before even moving in with me. Like, he doesn't even know the full meat yet.
- [96:02]
Alan Ice
Like, but you're like, wait till we move in. He might want to ask for the divorce. I'm like, knock on wood, girl.
- [96:10]
Josie
No, but I was just. I. I do eventually, but I think I'm just not ready yet. I know my mom and sister say I don't have to take care of them, but I think, like, it's just installed in me. Like, I just want to at least. At least make sure they're, like, they're set before I plan on making. Starting my own life, you know? And I feel like I'm still so involved at home with. I'm like, so family oriented, too. Like, I'm like, I want to have my life with him, but it's just like, when he's ready and when I'm ready, then I'll know because he's. He's the same way.
- [96:38]
Alan Ice
How does he feel about you being so public online with seeing. You know, like you said during the time that you guys were taking a little bit more serious, that's when your whole family was getting blasted. You know, there was so much going on. I'm sure at the time, it really felt good that he wanted to stick around, especially because you probably were like, you know what? He's gonna get scared off with everything he's seen online. He's probably gonna dump me or whatever. Yeah, you know what? What did he think about how open you and your family were online?
- [97:03]
Josie
I think with him, he didn't really know much about social media. And I had told him, I was just like, look, it I would get. If this scares you, because honestly, it scare me too. Like, this is a lot to take in. You're getting dragged into it somehow some way. Like, it's just all of us, we're all getting dragged together. And he was just like, I don't care. I know you as a person. Person. I know your family. That's all that matters. Like, you know, so he was just very. He was just very positive he was there for me. He's not very aware of, like, how to be there for people. So, like, I would tell him, like, try your best to be there for my mom. Be there. Because I would have to tell him for me too. Like, boy, this is what I need right now. And they'd be like, oh, okay. Because he just didn't. He grew up kind of like an opposite of My household a little bit. So it was just kind of like just telling him, yeah, yeah.
- [97:50]
Alan Ice
Which I feel like is normal. You know, I feel like sometimes people grow up differently where they weren't like, you know, ways to show emotions or be there for their family, friends, or people they love. And it's great that you're like, look, yeah, this is how we do things.
- [98:02]
Josie
Exactly. You're gonna be there.
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Alan Ice
You know, have you guys started talking about the wedding? Do you guys have a date here? Or are you guys just more enjoying it?
- [98:09]
Josie
Enjoying it right now? Me, I told him I would personally prefer just so we could say that we're married, so I could be like, look, we're married. Like, you know, because I can tell people that is to do the. What is it? Like the court? Yeah, like to do that and then to do all out. But he wants to do everything at once. Like one big, big wedding. So I'm like, okay, whatever. I'll wait till we're both there financially right now for a wedding. But I think just in my. It gives me peace in my head to know, like, what does your dream wedding look like? I don't know. If you dress mermaid dresset dress, like snatched and skinny. Oh, my God. I haven't even thought about that.
- [98:43]
Alan Ice
Have you thought about, like, the colors?
- [98:45]
Josie
No. Oh, my God.
- [98:46]
Alan Ice
You gotta start thinking, oh, I'm engaged.
- [98:51]
Josie
Yeah.
- [98:52]
Alan Ice
Would you want it to be like, super crazy extravagant? Like, invite even your influencer friends? Everyone in their mamas are more intimate.
- [98:58]
Josie
I think so. Because I don't have that much family, so I feel like I would want it. And I think this is the one time I would kind of want, like my social media involved in our relationship. Because it's going to be like, that's what a girl's dream is, their wedding night. Like, that's what they look forward to. And I think with him and me, since we're both. He's Vietnamese, I'm Mexican, I kind of want to bring in, you know, some cultural things from both of our ends into it. So I feel like it would have to be like a big wedding. So I feel like I've been thinking and considering of both.
- [99:26]
Alan Ice
What are things that, like, from his culture and yours that you're like, you know what? For sure we want that at our wedding. Talked about stuff like that.
- [99:32]
Josie
The only thing that I have talked about is like, well, because my friend Jennifer, she keeps telling me, oh, you're gonna have to wear. She's like, you should wear like, the traditional, like, wedding dress for like, Vietnamese And I was like, okay, I'll do that. Like, you know, like, I'm like, down to.
- [99:46]
Alan Ice
Do they do, like, a mother and father dance type of thing?
- [99:50]
Josie
I have no clue. Actually. I. I have not asked him about. We. He's not. We're both.
- [99:55]
Alan Ice
You're like. You guys are both enjoying it, which I feel like is good. You know what I mean? Everyone has different ways. There's no right or wrong way to do anything. And it's the fact that you guys know, you guys have a second promiso. You guys know, you guys have. You know, you guys are locked in. So enjoy it as much as you guys can and as much as you guys want to. And then when you guys are ready. Right? But I'm so excited. I'm so happy that we've had this conversation. Where does Josie see herself in the next five years? Whether that's relationship wise, career wise, family wise, and, oh, my God, five years.
- [100:34]
Josie
I'll be 27. 27.
- [100:37]
Alan Ice
You're gonna be my age.
- [100:38]
Josie
Oh, my God. I have no clue. Well, definitely, I think I would still be doing my job that I'm doing now. I did say I want to have kids before my 30s a little bit, because I don't want to be like a. Like an old. I. I don't know. I feel like two or three. Okay, that's cute. Yeah. I think two or three is, like, a good amount. I feel like growing up with the three of us, I think that kind of persuaded me to have, like, three. But I think I definitely just want to be. I don't have, like, a specific goal for me in that amount of time besides being happy, mentally happy.
- [101:17]
Alan Ice
I'm like, that's a big girl. Yeah, that's a big goal girl. Because, you know, in this day and time, girl, we're, like, all dying inside and no one knows. No. But I think those are great goals, and I know every single one of them. You know, by then maybe you'll be married maybe with a kid or two by then. And you know what? Like, to end the interview, I just want to say thank you so much, Josie, for really sitting down once again with me and really talking more in depth. If you guys haven't followed Josie, make sure you guys follow her on all her social medias, which I'll leave down below as well as on the screen so you guys won't miss any future episodes. And with that being said, amigas, thank you so much for coming.
- [102:01]
Josie
Thank you for having me.
- [102:02]
Alan Ice
Thank you guys so much for watching. And we'll See you guys in the next one. Bye guys. Guys. Yay. You just so yay.
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Josie
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