Podcast Summary: Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce – Episode 20
Release Date: May 29, 2025
In Episode 20 of "Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce," host Kylie Kelce reconnects with her audience after a brief hiatus due to maternity leave. This episode features an engaging conversation with punk rock icon Avril Lavigne, delving into topics ranging from parenting and personal growth to the intricacies of Avril's music career and style evolution.
1. Welcome Back from Maternity Leave
Kylie opens the episode with an authentic update on her life as a mother of four, sharing the challenges and joys she's experienced during her maternity leave.
- Kylie Kelce [00:40]: "Maternity leave for me is figuring out how to do things one handed again. That is a skill that you have to master."
She humorously describes her daily routine and the adjustments required to manage her growing family.
- Kylie Kelce [04:02]: "If I had to describe the change going from three kids to four kids in two words or less. Holy shit. It's not terrible. Let's go with not terrible."
2. Introduction of New Segment: "Places"
Kylie introduces a new segment titled "Places," where she discusses various events and locations she attends, often finding herself in unexpected settings.
- Kylie Kelce [09:15]: "I have some business being most of the time, I have absolutely no business being in the places I go."
She highlights attending the Eagles Autism Challenge, emphasizing the event's success in raising over $10 million.
- Kylie Kelce [12:45]: "This year's event raised over $10 million for the Eagles Autism Foundation."
3. Doomscrolling and Generational Differences
Kylie tackles the prevalent issue of doomscrolling, especially during the newborn phase, and reflects on generational differences between Millennials and Gen Z.
- Kylie Kelce [15:05]: "Doom scrolling takes on a life of its own during the newborn phase. Because I need something to do while Finn is eating."
She humorously critiques a Guardian article on Millennials, listing five ways she inadvertently embodies traits that Gen Z deems "cringe."
- Kylie Kelce [16:39]: "Number one, low socks. I absolutely do this. I don't want to see my socks. They are low riding socks."
4. Conversation with Avril Lavigne
The heart of the episode features an in-depth interview with Avril Lavigne, exploring her journey, musical inspirations, and personal anecdotes.
a. Early Career and Style Evolution
Kylie reminisces about how Avril influenced her youth, particularly in fashion choices like Vans shoes.
- Kylie Kelce [22:30]: "I went to the store to buy vans because I was like, I don't think I'm edgy or cool enough to do any of the other trends you were doing at the time."
Avril shares insights into her signature style, especially her iconic neckties, and how her fans embraced them.
- Avril Lavigne [24:22]: "I took a bunch of my dad's ties and I threw them on and I wore it in the video. It was strange because everyone came dressed to the shows with neckties and spike bracelets."
b. Makeup and Personal Grooming
The discussion shifts to Avril's makeup routine, highlighting her preference for efficiency and practicality during tours.
- Avril Lavigne [27:06]: "I learned to do my makeup, like, super fast and in the dark. I can do a black, smoky eye look in two minutes."
She reveals her "holy grail" makeup product, emphasizing consistency in her beauty regime.
- Avril Lavigne [28:13]: "The eyeliner, my holy grail, is the Maxmullar. It's never changed. I’ve used it my whole life."
c. Musical Collaborations and Inspirations
Avril discusses her collaborations with other artists and her admiration for newer talents like Billie Eilish and Olivia Rodrigo.
- Avril Lavigne [41:00]: "I love that they are both really cool and, like, independent and have strong messages too. Very powerful women in the industry."
She reminisces about a memorable moment when she performed with Shania Twain at the age of 14, a pivotal experience that fueled her passion for music.
- Avril Lavigne [36:18]: "When I was 14, I won a contest to sing on stage with Shania during her tour. It was like a dream state."
d. Upcoming Projects and Future Plans
Kylie and Avril delve into Avril's upcoming projects, including the "Sk8er Boi" movie and the possibility of a Christmas album.
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Kylie Kelce [42:53]: "Is it true that there's a Sk8er Boi movie in the works?"
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Avril Lavigne [42:53]: "Yes, there is a scary works. We've been working on it for a while, and it's very exciting."
Avril expresses her desire to create a Christmas album, adding it to her bucket list of projects.
- Avril Lavigne [43:16]: "Putting out a Christmas album is on my bucket list. I have been talking about it for so long."
5. Memorable Moments and Fan Interactions
Avril shares amusing and heartwarming stories about fan interactions, including receiving unexpected gifts like a wedding dress and a live rabbit.
- Avril Lavigne [43:50]: "I flew into Korea, and there were hundreds of fans at the airport. They tossed in gifts, one being a wedding dress and a live rabbit."
She recounts how her team handled these unique gifts, ensuring they were kept safe.
- Avril Lavigne [44:30]: "Someone from the label took it and said, 'We'll take care of it and get it somewhere safe.'"
6. Closing Thoughts
Kylie wraps up the episode by expressing her gratitude to Avril for joining and sharing her experiences. She also promotes Avril's Greatest Hits Tour and other upcoming performances.
- Kylie Kelce [45:32]: "I can't believe you're going to be on stage in six hours. Good luck tonight."
Avril responds with enthusiasm about her imminent performance.
- Avril Lavigne [45:35]: "Now I'm on stage in five hours. Woo."
Conclusion
Episode 20 of "Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce" offers listeners an intimate glimpse into Kylie’s life post-maternity leave and an engaging dialogue with Avril Lavigne. The episode balances personal anecdotes with professional insights, providing valuable takeaways on parenting, authenticity, and pursuing one's passions. Notable moments include Avril's reflections on early career experiences, her streamlined makeup routine, and her interactions with fans, all punctuated by Kylie's candid and humorous commentary.
For those who haven't tuned in, this episode is a testament to blending personal narratives with celebrity interviews, delivering both relatability and entertainment.