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Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie & Caleb Hearon on “Piping Hot” NFL Tea, Homecoming Outrage & Potty Training Horror Story | Ep. 37
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Kylie Kelce
When did making plans get this complicated? It's time to streamline with WhatsApp, the secure messaging app that brings the whole group together. Use polls to settle dinner plans, send.
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Caleb Heron
Event invites and pin messages so no one forgets.
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Kylie Kelce
Mom 60th and never miss a meme or milestone. All protected with end to end encryption.
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Caleb Heron
It's time for WhatsApp message privately with everyone.
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Kylie Kelce
Learn more at WhatsApp.com.
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Caleb Heron
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Kylie Kelce
Gonna lie I felt an immense pressure about packing lunches this year because it was my first time and I thought, am I gonna get judged for not packing a nutritious lunch? But the number of times that lunchbox came back with a decent amount of food in it, I've succumbed to the idea that I should pack things that are healthy, but I know they won't eat. So yeah, judge away. Let's get this podcast started. Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a wave Original brought to you by Peppa Pig. Let's jump in. I'm your host Kylie Kelce, former D3 athlete. That's a humble br. That's a very humble brag. Going through a major otter phase right now. Shout out to Uncle Trav. Might have to go visit some soon. And according to my horoscope today, Saturn's passing through Pisces so you know what that means. Go fucking birds. 30 baby give me a second. Coming up on today's episode, my dooms girl was on another level. This past week people have some strong thoughts on homecoming dresses. This year there's a TikTok that's inspired me to give all my non football fan real ones tips on what to say if you want to prank an NFL fan in your life. Plus yes I have seen you all tagging me in the potty training. Clip from the other podcast. I'm going to give you my take on all of it plus a brand new edition of you know what's up. After that I'm going to be joined by one of my favorite comedians, podcasters and content Creators. He just put out his debut stand up special. Guys, I'm talking to Caleb Herron. I'm so excited. But first, some real one comments of the week. First up, who told him? You guys, it was a secret. Last week I told you guys in confidence that Jason pulled off the mullet look. Now he found the clip. He commented, mullet is coming back, baby. No. Look what you've done. And then we got another contender for comment of the week from Aton jamison. My boyfriend's 6 year old asked me to put on your podcast. Hey, can we listen to that lady talk with four kids? Your message is working. Oh, no. First of all, don't know if that's my demographic, but chart it. Ladies, has there ever been a better description of this show? The lady that talks with four kids. That's it. Sums me up. Moving on. To commemorate a rare occasion where I left the house to solely do something fun for myself, I'm bringing back one of my favorite segments, Places Kylie has some business being. That's right. Some of you may have seen, I went to the Eagles Rams game with one of my favorite Birds fans and former NGL guests, Hannah Einbinder. First of all, go Birds. That game was bananas. I want to be clear, there were quite a few people who acknowledged that the plans made it out of the the Group chat in parentheses podcast. I feel very fortunate that I get to link up with people on the podcast and get to know them a little bit. But when you get to come together and bond over your Birds fandom, it just hits a little different. So Hannah and I got the chance to cheer on the Birds together. There was a moment in time where we questioned whether or not she was ever going to be allowed to come back to a game. Great news though. Like I said, go Birds. We got that W. Hannah posted this clip of all of us celebrating the blocked field goal to win the game. Queen Emma, the clip please. Ye. I think you can tell by my facial expression we were a little bit excited for our audio listeners. There was a lot of jumping, a lot of screaming, a lot of high fiving. There was also a lot of me pointing to my chair and why was I doing that? I'm going to tell you because at some point when we were trying to switch the juju, I told Hannah that we needed to figure out a way. Okay, so we started with Hannah facing the opposite direction. She was facing the wall for a minute because, you know, she's committed to the bit. Okay? And by the bit, I mean winning. And so we had her face backwards, but that didn't quite work. So then I was like, maybe I need to face backwards. So then I turned around and sit sat crisscross applesauce in my chair backwards. Okay, this is where it became a full team with. It was a team effort. And by that I mean Hannah was turned around. I was turned around and a woman two rows behind us was giving me the play by play, yes or no. And a brief description for every single play that unfolded. I reposted a video on my story of us facing away from the field, you know, as Hannah wrote to change up the energy. And I got a ton of real one Birds fans in my DM sharing what superstitious shit you did. I'm gonna rapid fire some of those right now because I love them so much and they made me feel seen. I went and completely changed my clothes. It worked. I had to leave the room so they could score that final td. Oh, my God. I ordered a cheesesteak and changed my jersey as halftime. I'm a grandma of five. Does the superstition ever end?
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Caleb Heron
No.
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Kylie Kelce
I went to the bathroom and plugged my ears. This is a no judgment zone. I walked outside in the third quarter and they scored two touchdowns. Came back in and they weren't looking so great. So I got sent back outside for the rest of the game. Can't be a jinx. You're damn right you can't. These are my people. These are my people. You have to do what you have to do. And here's the deal. Did me turning around and sitting crisscross applesauce backwards in my stadium seat change the outcome of the game? We don't know. And that's enough for me to continue on with the delusion. Do you get it? I just. It was. It is so validating that when you're like, I have to do this in a high pressure situation, all of a sudden it's down to a field goal. I turn around, sit backwards in my chair, and it gets blocked for the second time in yesterday's game and run down for a touchdown, guys. And that does it for places Kylie has some business being. And go Birds. And next up, let's get into Doom scroll of the week. First up on Doom scroll of the week, I've seen a lot of tiktoks from older generations sharing their disapproval of the types of dresses they see high school girls wearing for their homecoming dances. And I think TikTok user with Lottie had the perfect response. I'll tell you one thing's for sure. Two things for certain. If you guys saw what I wore to homecoming in the year of our Lord 2015, you would be sick. Wet seal, you would be sick and disgusted. I'm talking Charlotte R. Stiletto heels, platform. This big dress so tight you can't wear underwear. I'm talking short tight. Like hello, I saw so many Tik toks being like the homecoming dresses. These are crazy. I go to look it up. Girl, did you ever step onto a wet seal? Just let the teenage girls be teenage girls. Couple things here. She left no crumbs. The fact that she referenced both charlotte russe and wet seal makes me feel like we were shopping the same mall. Second, I. It does crack me up that for some reason as we get older, I think that people have a tendency of forgetting that they were once them, right? Oh, I can't believe that my 17 year old child snuck a beer out of our fridge. Would you sneak? Tell me right now, would you sneak? Guys, we can't forget where we came from, okay? And you know where we came from. Wet seal. Buy one, get one for a penny. Okay? We came from Forever 21. Don't wash it. Do not wash it. Forever 21 should have been called forever. Wear it once. That's it. That's what it should have been called. You could not wash that. I forever 21. May she rest in peace. I don't mean to speak ill of the dead, but I will tell you right now, God rest her skimpy ass soul, okay? She had interesting fashion sense and also the weakest seams you've ever experienced on an article of clothing. So to be clear, I didn't have homecoming, so I'm out on this. Lucky for me, I had to wait until college to wear a charlotte russe bodycon skirt with a tank top tucked into it as smoothly as humanly possible because body suits were not a thing and either were cropped tank tops. I said what? I said, okay, so you had to fold it and tuck it in. I had to wait until I was 21 years old to wear those out because I didn't have homecoming in high school. And also I didn't have a fake ID because I'm a rule follower and I had never snuck into a bar. And also I am almost 6ft tall. 5 11. I know I've said that so many times, but I have to emphasize that here because every single time I left the house in what was a normal article of clothing in the proper size, my father would say, try again. And that is the point to upstairs he would point up the steps and he would say, try again. And I would say, it's your fault that my legs are this long. And it's not that the article of clothing is too short, it's that my leg in in comparison makes the shorts or skirt or dress look too short. And I still wasn't making it out of the house in that tick. Tocker said, let teenage girls be teenage girls. I can live by that until my girls are teenage girls. And then we'll see if I have a change of heart there. So. Don't know. We'll find. Maybe we'll find out together. No, we won't. I won't be cut podcast. And lastly, on this week's Doom scroll, there's a new way non football fans are trolling their super fan partners while watching NFL games. And it's hilarious. Queen Emma, the clip please. Yelling random phrases during football to get my boyfriend's reaction. Squeeze it. Squeeze it.
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Caleb Heron
Squeeze where?
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Kylie Kelce
Squeeze it is what it. The best part about Squeeze it is that maybe you could say that it's applicable to holding the ball tighter on a carry for ball security, but squeeze it just sounds ridiculous. This actually has inspired me to come up with some more nonsense phrases that real ones can shout to troll their football fan spouses. Number one, smack it. Variants include smack that ball. Smack it to the house. Smack it in there. This next one is inspired by Bop It. So you can really do any of these or a combo. Number two is Twist it. Pull it. Bop it. I feel like this is a nod to the 90s. Let's just enjoy the fact that we were part of the Bop it generation. It sounds like a good time. Bop it. Pull it. Twist it. You can literally, you can twist it. Twist it. Pull it. Bop it. You can do a whole combination. That's fun. Feel free to tack on his ass to any of these. Twist his ass. Pull his ass. Bop his ass. You know, just one of those. You cannot push his ass because that's actually a valid outburst. And applicable to the birds. Number three. Oh, hit him with the worm. The only one. I really think. I think maybe this might. This might apply to a touchdown celebration, in which case hit him with the worm. Be outstanding. In any other situation. What? You know when you should say hit him with the worm. You should say it when it's a bad outcome for your team. That would be hilarious. Like they lose a yard or something. Be like, hit him with the worm. Like what? Attention real ones, please post a video of yourselves trying these. We want to see It. Okay, so when you're watching football this week, feel free to tag us at NGL with Kylie. That's it for Doom scroll the week. All right, moving on. Something happened to me yesterday that's given me no choice but to bring back another favorite segment. You know what's fucked up? Hey, you know what's fucked up? I just accidentally picked up a literal turd off my kid's bathroom floor with my bare hand. I'm almost embarrassed to say this on the Internet. I'm embarrassed to put this out into the world. So let's start from the beginning. We've been deep into foil fun recently, and if you have any idea what foil fun is, then you understand how it is not the tidiest activity. They come with foam stickers. They're black foam stickers that you put on the little board and arrange them. And then you can put these little foils down on them, make them whatever shiny color you want. It's actually very fun. Wyatt is obsessed with it. Everyone else just likes to make a mess. But these black foam stickers then end up getting on everything and everywhere in the house. And so Penny and I were headed into the bathroom for a little potty party, if you will. And I look down on the floor and. And she said, oh, it's poop. And if anybody knows conversations with children that span the ages of mine, which would be 5 to 2, who are speaking my 5 to 2 age range, they're so into poop. Just, I want to say poop for every other word. An answer to a question is poop. Uh, toilet is also a word that is an answer to anything. Fart also an answer to anything. So really, our potty talk is. It is very exciting right now. So naturally, when Benny points to the thing on the floor and says is poop, I thought it's just her being her normal self labeling things in the house that are not actually poop as poop. Because as I looked down, I thought to myself, oh, it's a freaking sticker. It's another one of the damn foam stickers stuck on the floor. Right? Wrong. I was wrong. I bent down and thinking that it was a sticker stuck to the floor with quite a bit of force, I squeezed what I thought was a foam sticker. I raw dogged it. I didn't take a tissue paper. I didn't put a glove on. I thought I was picking up a foam sticker. You know what? It was a tiny turd. It was a tiny turd. Benny was right. It was poop I think you can imagine with a germaphobe like me, I proceeded to have a small, as the kids would call it, crash out, and I washed the skin off of my hands. Now we got to the bottom of whose turd it was, and I'm not pointing any fingers, but the call was coming from inside the bathroom, if you catch my drift, and it was correctly identified by the culprit. Since we're already on this lovely subject of potty talk, a lot of you tagged me in a clip from the other podcast where my husband and brother in law recently talked about potty training. The clip, please. Queen Emma with Wyatt.
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Caleb Heron
She was the first one that you actually had to, like, proactively get her.
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Kylie Kelce
To go on the potty.
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Caleb Heron
And the way we potty trainers, you can see them just starting to, like. It ain't, like, hard to spot. Like, she goes off in the corner and you see her face starting to go like, do you need to poop right now?
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Kylie Kelce
Why?
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Caleb Heron
And then you're like, hey, let's go up on the potty. Once they get to a certain age, like, hey, let's go up on the potty.
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Kylie Kelce
The top comment was, everything about this answer tells me Kylie took the lead on potty training. Guys, I can truly say, first of all, in reference to my husband's explanation, no notes, Not a single note. He nailed that. There was not a single lie told. The other thing is, I will. I'm not going to lie. Potty training, as I think most people know, is a team effort. I don't think there was ever, like, a coaching up moment where I was like, all right, Jason, this is what we're going to do. We didn't huddle up about potty training. It's as clear as Jason said it was just that you could tell when they go to hide behind a chair that the time is upon us. And then you just got to scoop them up before that happens. And that is where it becomes a team effort. Whoever's in the room and catches the child sneak behind a chair, that's the person who's like, grab them, and then you gotta run. It's a. It is a f. They're going because they're ready, right? They're going behind the chair because they're ready, or they're going into the corner in the other room because they're ready, so you have to run. So it's kind of like a little athletic event that it's like, scoop the kid, get them upstairs, pants them, and get them on the potty. As quick as possible. Team effort. That's it for you know what's fucked up. Caleb Herron is coming up. But first, Peppa Pig. As the real ones know, my love language isn't necessarily receiving gifts, but you know whose is. All of my children. Yes, Wyatt, Ellie, Benny, and I'm sure soon Finn. Love presents for any and all occasions. Wyatt is already talking about her birthday and we are two weeks out from it. She tried to call it her birthday month and I had to explain that birthday actually contains the timeline within it. Well, luckily they don't have to wait until their birthday or holidays because I've got a bunch of new Peppa Pig toys here. I know they're going to be so excited about joining me on set. Today we have the brand new Oinks and Snug Eevee doll in honor of Mummy Pig welcoming the new baby Eevee. And my girls love a baby doll. They love them so much. I would say right now Benny is the one who loves baby dolls the most. So she is gonna be all over baby Eevee Oinks and Snuggles. Eevee also has 20 sound effects your kids can activate. Whether it's a birthday, a special treat or a holiday surprise. Your little Peppa Pig fan or will be thrilled with the Oinks and Snuggles Eevee doll available exclusively at Walmart, Shop online and in stores near you. He's the hilarious actor, writer and comedian. You know from his hit podcast so true. His TikTok videos that have achieved so funny you'll pee your pants laughing status in my book. And now his brand new debut standup special, Model Comedian, streaming now on hbo. Kayla Perrin, welcome to Not Gonna Lie.
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Caleb Heron
Hi. I'm so excited to be here.
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Kylie Kelce
I am so excited to have you because I was introduced to you via TikTok and clips from your podcast. So true. I think that your wit and intelligence and speed are all just put on display there and it is so satisfying to watch.
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Caleb Heron
Thanks.
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Kylie Kelce
Not to mention your friendship with Drew off Wallow, who I had the pleasure of speaking to on Not Gonna Lie, Brittany Broski. Like, watching you guys riff off of each other is one of the funniest things I've ever watched.
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Caleb Heron
They're the best and funniest and smartest. If I've, if I've ever said anything funny, it is. There's at least a 60% chance it's because of something that happened in our friendship or like, I just think they're. I think they're so funny. And when we get together. It's like my favorite thing. I also have to tell you that, you know, there are these random things that happen that, like, I've been doing comedy for a long time and there'll be little milestone type things that, you know, people from your past will reach out about, like someone from high school or whatever. And it's. It's sweet. I have never in my life, no, no show, no accomplishment, no anything, never gotten so much outreach as when you shouted me out on your show when, when the I heart thing happened and you're like, oh, Caleb's show is up too, and said that you like the show. I have never in my life got more people that I haven't spoken to in years texting me and going, so sorry. Kylie knows who you are. No, it was so. It's just always the funniest. I'm like, I'm like, I love Kylie too, but damn, they are coming out of the woodworks. They love you.
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Kylie Kelce
That's very sweet. I. I said it then and I fucking meant it. Okay. The best part is, is that when I. When we were talking about our rundown that day, I was like, why? Why?
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Caleb Heron
Why?
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Kylie Kelce
So vote for Caleb.
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Caleb Heron
No, same. I'm like, I mean, I think, you know, to your, like earlier you were joking about. And I don't know if this makes into the episode or not, but you're joking about being like unprofessional professionals and being like, we're just kind of flying by the seat of our pants. And I think I know that that's what people really respond to about you and why you do deserve to win awards. That one. And others people really feel like you are their friend because you're a regular, nice person who's like, I just think that there's so many great things about you and I am a fan and I think that the biggest one and why you won that award, and we'll probably win a whole bunch more, is because people really see you and they go, oh, if I. That's how I would do it if I was in that position. It feels very human the way that you're handling all of this.
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Kylie Kelce
Yeah, I mean, I, I appreciate that. I appreciate those kind words. I just truly think that if that is what people are attached to, I. I mean, that's all I've got. I keep like, I've met people in person who are like, I just love how, like, real you are. And I'm like, that's all I've got. I don't know how to be Anybody else, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna be me. So you either like it or you don't, but if you don't suck my ass.
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Caleb Heron
Leave it in, Leave it in, leave it in.
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Kylie Kelce
It just. It's. Yeah, it's. I mean, it's. You know, from podcasting, it's like, you. Week to week, you're like, what. This is what I'm gonna say, and this is my opinion. And, like, people either latch on or they don't, and they either get your humor or they don't. But I. I mean, back to you, because I really think that you are one of the funniest people on the Internet, specifically. I really. The. I could not watch your clips specifically. And also with Drew and Brittany Broski, I could not watch your clips while I was pregnant because my bladder control couldn't handle it. I'm not exaggerating. There were times where I would have to, like, scroll away from it to, like, breathe and then scroll back and be like, okay, give it to me again. It is the way you guys go back and forth with each other. The banter you have. It is. I mean, I'm full fangirl, like, aggressively fangirl, and it's so nice. And it's. I love that It. It comes from, like, a place, a place of positivity. Like, you guys will, like, poke fun and, like, joke around, but ultimately, it's, like, comes from a place of positivity and, like, being good people and wanting good for people.
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Caleb Heron
I think it's just not that deep. I think nothing should be that serious. I feel like we've a whole bunch of us, we, the collective royal, we, all of us, that we're the life. We're all participating in capital L. So many of us have gotten so serious, and so, like, there's these, like, sacred subjects and sacred topics and sacred feelings that no one's supposed to. I just am like, everybody relax. Like, let's calm down. This is supposed to be fun. We only get to do this once. Like, let's have a nice time. Let's. Let's laugh at how ridiculous this all is. It's insane that we're, like, spinning on a rock in space. That's crazy. We made up all these rules about.
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Kylie Kelce
We have a.
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Caleb Heron
You just stop and think sometimes about everything we made up for ourselves to exist in every day, and you're like, this is stupid. We should be making fun and laughing. This is crazy.
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Kylie Kelce
Yes. Now, I have so many things I want to ask you about your new standup special. But first of all, congratulations.
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Caleb Heron
Thanks, dude. Thank you.
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Kylie Kelce
Once again, it's Model Comedian. It's streaming now on HBO and HBO Max. Now, one of the things that you discuss in your special is the name of the special model comedian. And we're gonna, if you're okay with it, show the clip.
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Caleb Heron
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Kylie Kelce
Amazing. Queen Emma, roll the clip, please.
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Caleb Heron
I'm not even so mad anymore at people who are mean to me on the Internet now. I've kind of turned my ire. I'm more mad at, like, when my fans try to defend me and they're bad at it. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, someone commented on a video of mine and he was like, I don't get the hype with this guy. He's ugly as fuck. And I read that and I was like, shout out. You know, And I was like, let's just let it be, you know? And then I saw one of my fans respond to him and say, he's a comedian, not a model. Hey, hey. What? No. Fuck. Now. Get my office now.
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Kylie Kelce
Now. I say I don't look at the comments, but occasionally I do take a peek. What is. I know you said you haven't looked that much. Is there one that sticks out? One. That one. That special is staying with you. Yes, on the special.
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Caleb Heron
Oh, God. I'm. I really. I really have not looked that much. I'm trying to get a better relationship with that. I think I have a pretty good one, but I'm trying to get even better at it. There was one that made me laugh. That was on a one of HBO's tick tocks that I saw from some girl. It was like, all lowercase. And it was like, are we sure he's not Filipino? He looks just like my uncle who is Filipino. And I was like, incredible. Thank you. I love that. I just love the idea of their. Their Filipino investigating me in the comments. And I would love. I would love to be Filipino. It's just not my truth at this moment, but it really cracked me up, the idea that, like, maybe we're hiding it.
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Kylie Kelce
Is there a comment overall that has been your favorite throughout your career? Throughout. Tick tock. Your comedy, all of it. Is there. Is there a comment that you haven't shared maybe that really. It still sits with you?
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Caleb Heron
A comment that still sits with me? I. There was. There was a guy. I don't know if I've ever talked about this, but I randomly do have a lot of, like, Republican kind of conservative fans, which cracks me up because I am making Fun of them all the time. Now, I do make fun of everybody, but I, I'm just like, specifically, I am. So ideal opportunity. Yeah, sure. But I did, I don't know, I didn't look into the profile. So I don't know if this was like one of my gay fans being silly or if this was genuine. But someone commented once on there's some viral video of me on someone else's podcast or something, and they commented, they said, I'm homophobic, but this guy is funny. And I absolutely love that so much. That is one of my favorite things.
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Kylie Kelce
That's wildly self aware. First of all.
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Caleb Heron
It's all. It's just like, that is such a huge compliment because a big part of my thing is that I'm a gay guy. So like, you really have to be rocking with the material to break through that.
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Kylie Kelce
Look at you just. I mean, you're breaking down barriers is what you're doing. That's what that is. That's busting down barriers. That's incredible.
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Caleb Heron
Some guy did message, I don't know if I, if I have it to read it to you directly. Some guy did message me right after the special came out like the night after and said I am a straight white male, Navy veteran, Catholic, like listed all these things. And he was like, and I just saw your HBO special and I'm a fan. And I was like, okay. I was like, hey, I don't think you'll probably be hanging around for long, but I love that we got there for a moment and what a beautiful window we shared together in my DMs rock brother.
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Kylie Kelce
Now, do you find that you set the boundary of not reading comments? Does that include DMs?
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Caleb Heron
I read the DMs probably more often than I read the comments because I am interested in, I'm interested in how people behave when they think no one's perceiving like it is. It is very sociologically interesting to me when people behave badly in the public comment section. I'm like, oh, you're not a real hater. You are. Have some kind of embarrassment kink and you're hoping that I'll like show off on you and give you.
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Kylie Kelce
You're just an instigator. Like you're trying to pull either from you or from the rest of the people commenting.
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Caleb Heron
Yeah, you're lonely and you'd like someone to look at you. And that's actually quite sad and not very fun. But when you DM me some hateful, you're really about that. Like this is for the love of the game. Like, you really don't like me.
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Kylie Kelce
Yeah.
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Caleb Heron
And so when I stumble across one of those, I find it sociologically interesting. But mostly my DM requests are lesbians just responding like, go girl. It's really nothing. It's usually pretty fun in there.
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Kylie Kelce
So I don't read comments very often. I don't, I don't want to fill my free time with that. And so I don't read comments often, but every so often I hit like maybe 10 dms and I'm like, I'm good for a while. That's. That was not that fun.
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Caleb Heron
I can't imagine your DMs because you have so many unique axes. There's all these men that are fans of your husband and your brother in law and then there's all these people that are fans of, you know, Taylor, who, like, I'm sure the DMs are crazy. And then on just like a baseline kind of beneath all of that, you're a woman on the Internet with a platform. So that is already psycho. I kind of can't imagine the firestorm that's going off in your dms.
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Kylie Kelce
Actually, if you ever want a good just. Just sit down and sort of veg in it. I'll let you log into my Instagram. You can have that.
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Caleb Heron
I do, yeah. I'll hit you up now.
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Kylie Kelce
Leading in to this special, I'm assuming that you tour all over the country. I've asked every touring comedian and musician this question when I've had them on, so I'm about to do it again. Where does Philly rank in your favorite places to perform?
- [35:28]
Caleb Heron
I actually owe Philly an apology and I'm really glad you're bringing this up because. And you didn't tell me you were going to ask this, but I, I'm so glad that it's coming up because Philly is genuinely one of my favorite places to tour and I love.
- [35:42]
Kylie Kelce
Are you just saying this because it's me? Because the next part of that was that I will take it personal.
- [35:48]
Caleb Heron
No, no, it's not just because it's you. I genuinely. And I actually have a funny Philly story that I'll tell you. But I love, I love performing in Philly. The. The shows there are always fantastic. The audiences are incredible. There's a real, like good comedy scene there. So like a sensibility and an understanding of like, how to behave at shows. I was saving Philly. I didn't put Philly on my last My so True live tour because I was Saving those ticket sales to go to Philly and do some test shows of the hour before I recorded this special. That was the. I haven't said this anywhere, but Philly was pissed at me. They're in my DMs or my comments like, is this about the Super Bowl? I'm like, oh, they're livid with me. And I'm like, I can't tell you because the shows aren't confirmed. And then I ended up not being able to make it work in my schedule to go to Philly and do the test shows either. So I ended up skipping Philly, much to my own sadness, on a whole tour cycle. That is my apology to Philly and I'm going to do something really big in Philly next time I go on tour. My funny Philly story is that my friend John is from Philadelphia. He's a huge Eagles fan. Shout out. John and his parents came to my most, yeah, my most recent show in Philly like a year and a half ago. And his parents are lovely, incredible, wonderful human beings who I adore. I've met them multiple times. And afterwards I'm chit chatting with his mom and his dad's like, I was, I had, was. There was a guy who came to the show that I was going to hook up with after the show. He was like a guy that I hook up with in Philly, whatever. It's like that sometimes no one worry about it. And I had like, the guy had come over and they had been. He walked away to get a drink or something like, who's that? And I was like, oh, that's a guy I'm going to hook up with later. But right now we're chit chatting, you know, and his dad, my buddy's dad has like walked away and I'm like, where's, where's your dad? And he goes, oh, he's leaving. And so I ran after him and I was like, you're going to leave without saying goodbye to me? No hug? And he goes, he turns around and I can't do a Philly dad accent. But he go, he's like, like an Italian guy. He's like, I thought you were gonna get some ass. And I was like, no, I'm hanging out with you guys right now. But that was. That's one of my favorites will come.
- [37:57]
Kylie Kelce
But right now I'm talking to you.
- [37:59]
Caleb Heron
Everybody's gonna get laid. Everybody's gonna get laid. Don't worry about that right now. It's family time. But it really cracked me up how Supportive.
- [38:10]
Kylie Kelce
We love a supportive king.
- [38:12]
Caleb Heron
And being like, oh, if you're trying to get laid, I'll leave. Like, that's that.
- [38:16]
Kylie Kelce
Let me excus.
- [38:17]
Caleb Heron
That's beautiful. But come back here.
- [38:19]
Kylie Kelce
You just have to come and. And impart your comedy on us. We just need you to drop it right in Philadelphia where it belongs.
- [38:28]
Caleb Heron
I'm in such a tough place with Philly right now because obviously the Chiefs and Eagles of it all, and I'm such a. A massive lifelong Chiefs fan. I mean, I was there when it was like, pre Andy, pre Travis. Like, it was when things were.
- [38:40]
Kylie Kelce
It wasn't that fun.
- [38:41]
Caleb Heron
Yeah, it was not fun. And my problem with Philly right now is that, like, obviously the Eagles are, like, fucking untouchable, but so goddamn likable. Jalen Hurts is like, just like, the most likable. I'm really kind of mad. I keep trying to find angles to get the rivalry interesting, and I've got nothing on Jalen Hurts. And I'm just like, I'm kind of sick of it. I've had it. It's making it really hard to have a proper feud.
- [39:09]
Kylie Kelce
You know, I do appreciate so much that your Chiefs fandom spills into your relationship with the Philly, like, the city of Philadelphia as a whole. I respect that on a level I can't even explain.
- [39:26]
Caleb Heron
I got booed. I brought up the Chiefs on stage at my last Philly show, and they booed me.
- [39:30]
Kylie Kelce
And doesn't that feel like It. Feel like a warm hug?
- [39:32]
Caleb Heron
It does. It felt like family. I was like, I love that about y'. All.
- [39:35]
Kylie Kelce
Right. I mean, we do it to them too. If they were not doing as well as they are right now, we'd be booing them too. It's love. It's all love. And I do feel it with the Kansas City Chiefs. Do you have a favorite player? I'm not. Expect. I'm not. You don't have to say my brother in law.
- [39:58]
Caleb Heron
I. My. My dad's favorite player was Derek Thomas, and so he's always been kind of up there for me. My favorite player right now is probably. Probably Isaiah Pacheco. I'm really. I just love him. I love his energy. I love his vibe. Probably. Yeah, probably Isaiah. But Travis, shout out to Travis. I know that. I know that you don't want me to say him, but. Of course I don't want you to.
- [40:25]
Kylie Kelce
Say him if it's not him. Obviously, he is my favorite Chief forever and always, but I don't want you to say him just because you think that's what I want to hear.
- [40:35]
Caleb Heron
No, I do love Travis.
- [40:37]
Kylie Kelce
It is what I want to hear. And that's the wrong answer.
- [40:39]
Caleb Heron
Yeah. And now I wanted to hear it. And now we're actually beefing for two reasons. No, I. One thing I love about all the. The guys on the team right now is how much they. And Travis is a big part of this, how much they show up for the city. Like, they. They're always at the charity events. They're always doing all of the. The stuff around town. And I feel like that. The cool part about football to me and what I'm always trying to tell people who don't give a. About football, which is a lot of people in my life, I'm like, it's. It's. When. It's. When it's going well, it's so good for the whole city. It's like, things happen because people are excited about the team. And I think that's the thing I love the most about it.
- [41:15]
Kylie Kelce
That's. Honestly, Travis has given us the best glimpse into Kansas City because of the things that he gets involved in there and just. I mean, in terms of, like, charitable stuff, he introduced us to something that he holds really near and dear to his heart, which is Operation Breakthrough. And I've actually gotten a chance to go and visit and to see projects that they're working on, and they're actually working on one for Jason right now. It's one of the coolest places I've ever visited. The people there are incredible, but those are like. That's how Travis. That's how I've learned about Kansas City through Travis's lens. And it really is football, charitable efforts, things that he feels strongly about, and then delicious barbecue. And I am so down for all of it.
- [42:05]
Caleb Heron
Yeah, it's a. It's a really awesome town. I really. I love it here so much, and I love anybody who loves it. And Operation Breakthrough is incredible. And, like, Travis and a lot of those guys are at. They do stuff for, like, big slick every year with Sudeikis and Paul Rudd and all those guys and. And Heidi Gardner and I. Yeah, I just think it's. I think it's really cool, and I think it's good for a city to have something to be excited about.
- [42:26]
Kylie Kelce
Yes. Now, not to bring up any hard topics, now that we're mending these broken spots. A couple weeks ago, the Chiefs and Eagles played.
- [42:37]
Caleb Heron
Yeah.
- [42:40]
Kylie Kelce
Anything. Any thoughts about that?
- [42:44]
Caleb Heron
In my opinion, no, they didn't. As far as I'm concerned, that didn't happen.
- [42:53]
Kylie Kelce
Yeah. What I will say, I will say this. The one of the times that the Eagles and Chiefs played in regular season was the year that the Eagles won the super bowl. And that year the Chiefs won the regular season game.
- [43:13]
Caleb Heron
Right. Who knows what that means? And here's maybe here's what I can contribute.
- [43:22]
Kylie Kelce
Okay.
- [43:23]
Caleb Heron
I think that the NFL should have a broadcast option. Shouldn't be the main broadcast. I don't want to mess with the main product. You guys do your thing. There should be a broadcast option. That is a panel of three people. One of them is a dyed in the wool X NFL like classic commentator. Like exactly what you'd expect. One is a gay guy who knows ball and one is a third person who knows nothing about the game, the teams or anything that's going on.
- [43:53]
Kylie Kelce
And that can ask questions.
- [43:55]
Caleb Heron
Yes. And that come in. That person's job is to go like, wait, why? When they throw down the yellow thing, what is that? You know? And then it's so. It's a spectrum of experiences and knowledge. I think this broadcast would completely revolutionize the watching experience.
- [44:10]
Kylie Kelce
I love that so much. I think it'd be cool because I do think there are a bunch of spaces where people have tried to capture the idea of. Let me explain football. Let me help you get involved. Let me help you understand. Yeah, but watching it live and doing it simultaneously would be the best way to consume that.
- [44:30]
Caleb Heron
Yeah. And you.
- [44:31]
Kylie Kelce
I'm so into this.
- [44:32]
Caleb Heron
You need someone to explain it. Like, I. My personal mission in life has. Has been to get girls and gays into football. The ones who don't care. And I have found so many fun ways to do it. One is talking about how hot some of the players are. That gets some people in. But the bigger one is when you. When you can explain it. Kind of like Real Housewives. When you're like, okay, the reason that the packers playing the Cowboys is so interesting this week is because Micah Parsons and the Cowboys just went through a huge breakup and now he's with someone new and now he's going out and he knows his ex is going to be there with his new girl, you.
- [45:01]
Kylie Kelce
Know, like, and he's got to show up.
- [45:03]
Caleb Heron
He has to show out. Like, this is. You have to. You know what that's like. So explaining the drama of the league because there is so much drama all the time. This is the stuff we need to be talking about.
- [45:12]
Kylie Kelce
Honestly, the idea of doing it during a broadcast is Chef's kiss. I don't think there's anything that could. It just sounds. It sounds Perfect. And I do think that that is exactly what you're saying about the drama. It is, and it runs deep. The tea is piping hot and they.
- [45:30]
Caleb Heron
Don'T even know the tea is piping hot. Who. Who had the chance to draft who and didn't? How are they doing now? Where do they play? Who used to play here but doesn't anymore?
- [45:39]
Kylie Kelce
Well, that's all. I mean, Baker Mayfield alone you could get into, like, was in Cleveland, not in. You know what I mean? Like, we're like, what was that breakup like? And then how is he doing with, like, you know what I mean? I just. How are you thriving in your next relationship? I like this.
- [45:57]
Caleb Heron
It's really interesting, right? Or like, Russell Wilson just got benched for Jackson Dart to start. This is like, regardless of how you feel about it, this is a deeply interesting, like, human story. And when you're watching the game through that lens, it's actually so much more nuanced and interesting than, like, I like when guys hit each other. It's like there's actually, I think, even the, like, the most broiest, like, manly straight guys who love football, whether they know it or admit it, they. They also love the drama. It's part of it for them.
- [46:26]
Kylie Kelce
Absolutely. They've just figured out how to frame it in a way where, like, they're. They're like. It's masculine. It's like, no, he did just break up with the owners of the Cleveland.
- [46:35]
Caleb Heron
It's Real Housewives. Yeah. This is your Real Housewives. Yeah.
- [46:38]
Kylie Kelce
Yeah. No, and like, the drama in the locker room that occasionally leaks and you're like, no one's going to talk about how, like, a quarterback and the receivers don't get along, but he's supposed to throw to them on a weekly basis and they're supposed to do it together as a team. Like, what are we talking about?
- [46:54]
Caleb Heron
This is good. This is group dynamics. This is drama. This is good stuff. So we need. I think we need a broadcast that delves into all of this.
- [47:00]
Kylie Kelce
I really like that. I like that a lot.
- [47:04]
Caleb Heron
Hit us up. We've got ideas.
- [47:07]
Kylie Kelce
Caleb, I know people.
- [47:10]
Caleb Heron
And you know what? I believe you. I believe that you know people.
- [47:14]
Kylie Kelce
Let's see what we can do.
- [47:15]
Caleb Heron
Let's go. Let's do something.
- [47:17]
Kylie Kelce
We do have a. A tiny habit of manifesting here, so. NFL. Hey.
- [47:25]
Caleb Heron
I'm putting it out. NFL, hey. Hey.
- [47:28]
Kylie Kelce
We just got a quick. You want to hop on a zoom real quick?
- [47:31]
Caleb Heron
The Caleb. The Caleb and Kylie sweatpants on the couch with, like.
- [47:36]
Kylie Kelce
Wait.
- [47:36]
Caleb Heron
With like, appetizers. Just being like, okay, so know not.
- [47:41]
Kylie Kelce
Us being their worst nightmare, because the most unprofessional professionals coming in and just being like, hello, if you're an NGL fan or you live in a Peppa Pig household or both, which I'm sure is the case for some of the real ones. Chances are, you know, baby Eevee has arrived. But did you know there's brand new Peppa Pig toys you can purchase for your own babies? And if your babies are anything like mine and love playing dress up, they're gonna love the new Peppa Pig dress up wardrobe playset. This is perfect for our household because our girls love to dress themselves up all day, every day. If I let them wear 72 outfits a day, they would do it. But for laundry purposes, no. So maybe this will scratch the itch for them because little kids who love fashion dolls will love this adorable Peppa Pig playset. Kids can mix and match accessories like fairy wings, wands, a tutu, and more. Use the stickers to decorate the Peppa figure and her clothes. The girls will absolutely love to design things specifically with stickers because they love to put random stickers anywhere in the house. I could tell you right now on the way up the stairs in our house, there's one random mermaid sticker right on the wall. You can shop the Peppa Pig dress up wardrobe playset and all the other new Peppa Pig toys now at Walmart, online or in stores near you. So good, so good, so good.
- [49:08]
Caleb Heron
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- [49:20]
Kylie Kelce
Join the Norty Club at Nordstrom Rack to unlock exclusive discounts on your favorite brands. Shop new arrivals first and more. Plus, get an extra 5% off every rack purchase with a Nordstrom credit card. Great brands, great prices.
- [49:34]
Caleb Heron
That's why you Rack.
- [49:36]
Kylie Kelce
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- [49:54]
Caleb Heron
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- [50:29]
Kylie Kelce
Ask your doctor about epglis and visit epglis.lily.com or call 1-800-lilyrx or 1-800-545-5979. Now I'd love to switch gears here and do a segment with you I like to call Doom scroll the Week.
- [50:42]
Caleb Heron
Cool.
- [50:43]
Kylie Kelce
The segment is basically that I like to doom Scroll. It's how I turn my brain off. And I feel like you're probably going to be very good at breaking down some of these clips.
- [50:55]
Caleb Heron
Great.
- [50:55]
Kylie Kelce
This is Doomscroll Caleb Edition. This is a snippet from an all time classic where you tell the story of Cooper and the cologne.
- [51:02]
Caleb Heron
Cooper always got compliments on smelling really good. I was like, okay, I know how I can be really popular is if I just figure out what cologne Cooper wears. And he'll probably tell me because he was so cool to me about the pants. Yeah. He was so chill about my moose double.
- [51:14]
Kylie Kelce
He was so chill about it.
- [51:15]
Caleb Heron
That's fine. Ohana. That's fucking familia right there. Familia right there.
- [51:21]
Kylie Kelce
That's gang. That's fam.
- [51:22]
Caleb Heron
That's gang. That's fam. And so I said, cooper, what cologne do you wear? And he said, oh, I don't. It's just like, I don't know. My mom gets it for me. And I. I go, oh, yeah, but like, what is it Every time I get a chance being like, cooper, do you even know, like, what the bottle looks like? You know, I'm being so persistent because finally I go, I need to know what clone you wear. And he goes, if I tell you, will you just stop talking to me? And I. And I go. And I go. And I go, yeah.
- [51:47]
Kylie Kelce
Now, first of all, this clip has 13.5 million views.
- [51:51]
Caleb Heron
Crazy.
- [51:52]
Kylie Kelce
Have you heard from Cooper? No.
- [51:55]
Caleb Heron
You know, it's so funny. This. This story has taken. It was a throwaway story on the show it's not, like, material that I planned or something just kind of came up. And it has taken on a life of its own to an extent where, like, every one of my comment sections is like, what color is the box, Coop? And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, it really will never die, the story. But I will say the. He's not. He's not reached out. I don't know where he is in the world. Shout out to him. But the. I. There's not enough appreciation. As much as that clip is watched and talked about and beloved, there's not enough appreciation for the fact that the true comedy in that clip comes from Drew and Britney. They are the. Like, they are teeing everything up. They are making the bit move. They are. There is no. There's nothing funny or watchable or interesting about that clip if it's not for how brilliant and funny those two are. And I sometimes get annoyed that I'm like, it's not. It's people like, heat praise on me or try to, like, pit us against each other, but I'm like, they are the engine that makes that actually funny.
- [52:59]
Kylie Kelce
Yeah, I. That. This is one of the clips that I could not watch pregnant.
- [53:03]
Caleb Heron
They're so funny. They're so funny, dude.
- [53:06]
Kylie Kelce
It's the laughter in the background. It's as if you're, like, listening in on, like, a friend's story and you're laughing at, like, they're sad. Like. Like you're. You're like. You're almost, like, commiserating with them in your laughter of, like. God, that must have really sucked in hindsight. But in that moment, you were like, I. Tell me the cologne.
- [53:25]
Caleb Heron
Yeah, tell me. Middle school is so brutal, dude. And you just wanna. Oh, you wanna fit into our. And none of your kids are there yet, are they?
- [53:34]
Kylie Kelce
No. Good. God, no.
- [53:35]
Caleb Heron
That's what I thought. They're all. They're all young. But the. It's just middle school is such a. Like, you just brutal anything. Because you also have started to understand, by the way, and part of what that story is about really, is like, you've started to understand social capital and you've started to understand that certain people have it and certain people don't and that they get it through various things. Right. And you don't know that that's what it is because you're a child. It's. Yeah, you just. I remember being that age and how badly you felt like anything could change or ruin your life on a dime. Like, every little thing felt like it was the consequences of the whole world crashing down on you. And that's an inherently funny place to be, because when the stakes are high for somebody who doesn't know how silly their thing is, that's like. It's a comedy 101. It's so funny.
- [54:17]
Kylie Kelce
Yeah, it. Middle school's trash, and if you can, like, get a laugh out of that much pain, God bless. It is. It is crazy how much transition happens, and I don't know how your schools are structured out there, but our middle school is three. Was three years when I was in it, and it was. It felt like it was the three shittiest years. It was like, how did we cap. How did we capsule this and then put us all in a school together? And, like, let's see what happens.
- [54:47]
Caleb Heron
A unique hell of like, yeah, Lord of the Flies.
- [54:51]
Kylie Kelce
It was ridiculous.
- [54:52]
Caleb Heron
It's wild. It's wild.
- [54:53]
Kylie Kelce
Okay, our other clip for Caleb Doomscroll. You've had your mom on your show a couple times. I love this clip. In particular, Queen Emma.
- [55:02]
Caleb Heron
You think about me all the time.
- [55:05]
Kylie Kelce
Well, you're a part of me.
- [55:07]
Caleb Heron
See, but that's a crazy thing to say to someone. I'm a part of you.
- [55:11]
Kylie Kelce
You are a part of me.
- [55:12]
Caleb Heron
And I like that you feel that way. You're a great mom.
- [55:14]
Kylie Kelce
But I do know that cells actually cross back and forth from a child to a mother when they're in the womb.
- [55:18]
Caleb Heron
Yeah, but that happened so long ago.
- [55:20]
Kylie Kelce
For a U.S. they say that the cells stay in there, but even after you have the child, you still have some of their cells inside of you. I think that's why moms are so good to their children, and their children break their hearts because they don't have any cells from the mom and them.
- [55:34]
Caleb Heron
So you think that there's cells from me and you. You and me?
- [55:37]
Kylie Kelce
Yep.
- [55:38]
Caleb Heron
And you think that's why you can't stop texting me? Dude, she's the funniest.
- [55:46]
Kylie Kelce
Coming from someone who admittedly calls their mom multiple times a day. I don't. I don't. I mean, do you have any advice for me? Because I feel like you're trying to create a degree of separation in that clip.
- [56:01]
Caleb Heron
My mom? No, I'm a total. Look, I even have the tattoo to prove it. I'm a total mama's boy. I love her down. She's the funniest person I have ever met in my whole life. Like, my mom is the coolest, best I. It's funny because some people I. That one. The clips of my mom all kind of get A bunch of attention because of how charming she is. But some people did get mad at that episode that they're like, oh, he's being so mean to her. And I'm like, oh, no, we're. We're friends and we're playing like, we're kidding. I love that she texts me all the time. I was at. I was at her house last night, actually. I went over there for dinner. Yeah, she's the coolest. And I don't actually want separation from her, but she does text. Like, such a mom. Like, it really is. Like, if I don't text back for one hour, I'm a full grown adult with, like a job that happens all the time.
- [56:49]
Kylie Kelce
Yeah.
- [56:50]
Caleb Heron
Phone text back for an hour. Hi. Just wondering if you're upset with me or if everything's okay. Shit like that where I'm like, girl, you gotta. You gotta get a grip.
- [57:04]
Kylie Kelce
Oh, it feels a little. It feels a little coopery, by the way.
- [57:10]
Caleb Heron
Now, where do we think I got it from? I can't imagine being a parent, dude. It must be. I can't imagine how much she actually is exercising restraint. I feel like if I created a human being from my body, I would be every minute of the day, like, why isn't it talking to me.
- [57:27]
Kylie Kelce
Now? The last thing I'd love to talk to you a little more about is your acting career, where you are officially going to be in the devil wears Prada 2.
- [57:36]
Caleb Heron
Yeah.
- [57:36]
Kylie Kelce
How cool is that?
- [57:38]
Caleb Heron
That's really crazy. I can't believe they're doing that. I mean, that's really nuts. I'm like, what are y' all thinking? I. Yeah, I actually wrapped it already, so my. My scenes are done. And it was like the coolest, most surreal. I mean, I watched the original Devil Wears Prada as like, a closeted gay kid in Missouri when I was like, 11 years old, you know, and it meant so much to me. Yeah. Being a part of the new one is just crazy cool. And all those people who worked on the original, a lot of them are back. The. The writer, the director, the cast, like, the costume people. Like so many of the original people. And they're all just the most generous, lovely people. So it was a really cool one to do.
- [58:16]
Kylie Kelce
Now, were you starstruck in meeting the cast?
- [58:20]
Caleb Heron
You know, not real. I don't it. Not really. But I will say it was cool. And it was. It was more than being starstruck about, like, oh, Meryl Streep is here. It was more like, oh, I have to act. That was the thing that I was like, it's not really meeting them as a human being. It was more like, oh, acting in front of Meryl Streep. So would anyone like to just kill me instead? I mean, like, that's so. Like, what are you talking about? Like, I was so cognizant of my. The pressure performance and abilities in a way that I'm not normally. I normally at work, I'm just very, like, I'm very good at this. I know what I'm doing. I was hired for a reason. And. And especially when it's comedy, I'm like, there's no one that could.
- [59:02]
Kylie Kelce
Could.
- [59:02]
Caleb Heron
Could tell me anything about a comedic performance that would make me feel anything other than like, either that was constructive or they're crazy. Like, no one could make me feel like I don't at least have a take. But acting in front of such legends. And Hathaway, too, I mean, most of. Yeah, I. It really is crazy.
- [59:19]
Kylie Kelce
Now what is it? There's been photos from the set in New York and all that. What does it feel like to be involved in something that people are so excited about?
- [59:29]
Caleb Heron
Well, it's really funny because all the gay publications are going nuts with, like, Caleb Heron stars and Devil Wears Prada, too. And I'm like, we need to walk back the word stars very quickly because I'm not starring in it. Baby, I am long on that call sheet. But it's really cool and really neat. And it's so funny that it's another one of those things that people reach out about a lot that it's like a bunch of people who haven't, you know, maybe kept up with what I'm up to or whatever from home or anything that they're like, oh, this is crazy. And I agree with them. So it feels really nuts now.
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Kylie Kelce
I just asked Regina hall this same question about Girls Trip and scary movie sequels. She gave me absolutely nothing. So, Caleb, I'm hoping that you can give me a little something. Is there anything you can tell us about the sequel?
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Caleb Heron
No, there's not. They won't let me. I know. Isn't it sick? It's really sick. Especially for it to hire someone like me, where it's like, all I do is I almost. I'm not kidding you. If you watch close enough, you'll see, like, 45 seconds ago, I almost revealed something that I straight up cannot say, and I had to, like, cut myself off and move on. No, I will say this. This is what I've been giving people that I can tell you, people in my life who have asked. I am very skeptical of remakes and sequels. I overall think Hollywood is trending towards a place of unoriginality that is making me quite annoyed. So I read this script with a sense of skepticism and maybe came in with a bit of a feeling of, like, this. This is gonna have to be extra good to convince me. And as a fan of the original, it was that good. It is, like, worth it. I. I understand why they're doing it. I feel really good about where it picks up and how the story develops. Aline Broche McKenna, who wrote the first in this one, really knows what the she's doing. And I think. I think if you're a fan of the original, you'll be really, really happy with this one.
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Kylie Kelce
That's very exciting. I'll take that. That. That feels. That feels good. Good. I like that. I'm very much looking forward to it. I cannot thank you enough for coming on Not Gonna Lie. Today you can watch Caleb's hilarious stand up special Model Comedian, streaming now on HBO and hbo. Max, you are incredible Again. I am so, so grateful that you came on today and I'm so looking forward to continuing to watch everything that you do and cheer you on and obviously see you in the Devil Wears Prada too.
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Caleb Heron
Thanks, dude. Thank you for having me. And likewise. It's a real treat. Thank you very much.
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Kylie Kelce
Absolutely. And go Birds. But also go Chiefs.
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Caleb Heron
Yeah, both in many ways. And let's just mend that. Let's mend that. Now we're shaking on it.
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Kylie Kelce
Thank you. And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Caleb on my YouTube channel on more shit Monday. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode. Follow Not Gonna Lie on all social media at NGL with Kylie. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcast. Not gonna Lie is a wave original brought to you by Peppa Pig Pig. Let's jump in. Thanks again for tuning in.
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Caleb Heron
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