Kylie & Hannah Einbinder on Birds Fans Flipping The Bird, BTS of Hacks & Cheerleading IS A SPORT | Ep. 32

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Episode: Kylie & Hannah Einbinder on Birds Fans Flipping The Bird, BTS of Hacks & Cheerleading IS A SPORT (Ep. 32)
Release Date: August 21, 2025
Guest: Hannah Einbinder (Emmy-nominated star of “Hacks,” comedian, diehard Eagles fan)

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Episode Overview

This episode brings Kylie Kelce together with comedian and “Hacks” co-star Hannah Einbinder for an unfiltered, deeply Philly-rooted conversation. They riff on the fandom and ferocity of Eagles supporters, dive into actress and sport culture (with love for cheerleaders), share behind-the-scenes stories from “Hacks," and exchange heartfelt, hilarious parenting and life advice. The hour is equal parts laugh-out-loud and touching, loaded with stories about family legacy, fandom intensity, and the misunderstood athleticism of cheerleading.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mom Life, Showers, and Small Joys

• Mom Showers vs. Everything Showers ([07:10])
  • Kylie differentiates “mom showers” (bare minimum for hygiene) from coveted “everything showers” (full self-care), sharing the chaos of showering with young kids at home.
  • “A mom shower is honestly pits and crotch bare minimum. Pits, crotch, butt, bare minimum.” – Kylie ([07:40])
  • Kylie shares humorous anecdotes about bringing baby gear into the bathroom just to manage a few minutes alone.

2. Doom Scroll & Viral Parenting Trends

• Baby Hippo “Mom Face” ([09:00])

  • Adorable discussion of a Kansas zoo’s pygmy hippo and the universal mom glare.
  • “Safe to say, Posey hit him with the mom face. That’s his mom. His mom Posey hit him with the mom face. And I would say eleven out of ten. Posey, you nailed that so hard.” – Kylie ([09:32])

• Grandparent “Ding-Dong Ditch” TikTok Trend ([10:50])

  • Parents drop kids (and diaper bags) at grandparents’ doors as a joke—Kylie fantasizes about doing the same for a break.
  • Kylie jokes her daughter would “rat her out” before she could escape.

• Women in Sports Audio Trend ([14:00])

  • Praises ESPN’s Mina Kimes and a viral soundbite used by women in sports:
    “And I think we all know that if there’s one thing that male sports fans want to see in their spaces and on their screens, it’s more of me.”
  • Kylie: “Men, get used to it, suckas.”

3. Philadelphia Eagles Fandom—Bonding, Loyalty, and Attitude

• Introduction & “Go Birds” Language ([17:00])

  • Hannah and Kylie swap stories about how “Go Birds” is a greeting, toast, condolence, goodbye—an all-purpose phrase for Philadelphia fans.
  • “Go Birds is obviously a tool that we know can mean a million different things... It can do anything you need it to do.” – Hannah Einbinder ([17:00])

• Family Legacy & Emotional Roots ([18:28])

  • Hannah recounts her dad’s passion and the bond with her late grandfather over season tickets; describes a post-Super Bowl teary moment dedicated to her family.
  • “When I think about my identity, I think the order is like, Eagles fan, queer, Jewish, left handed, redhead. Like, I think it’s above all of those other things.” — Hannah ([21:31])
  • Kylie and Hannah agree the intensity (and “aggression”) of Philly fans is rooted in love and generational pride.

• Iconic Philly Fan Behavior (Flipping the Bird) ([22:43])

  • Hannah jokes, “The person in this scenario—that’s me, taunting young fans. I will taunt a child.” ([23:02])
  • Kylie admits that if her kids ever flipped off an opposing team’s fan, “I would cry tears of joy.”
  • The duo bonds over their mutual distaste for Cowboys fans and their unified commitment to never wearing rival teams’ gear.

• The Sacredness of Sports Loyalty ([25:36])

  • On refusing to put on other teams’ paraphernalia, Hannah says: “It can’t happen. My dad would disown me.”
  • Kylie: “My love of my brother-in-law is separate from my sports fandom.”
  • On LA pride vs. Philly sports, Hannah says, “Your love of LA is separate from your sports fandom,” which Kylie compares to loving Travis Kelce but still bleeding green.

4. Philly Accents, Representation in Media

• Philly Accent Showdown ([27:17])
  • Kylie asks Hannah to drop a Philly accent:
    “I’m gonna go get a hoagie. Go Birds.” — Hannah (in accent) ([28:08])
  • Lamenting true Philly representation on screen, they champion authentic accents in shows like “Mare of Easttown” and “Silver Linings Playbook.”

5. Behind the Scenes – “Hacks” & Creative Journey

• Emmy Nominations & Surreal Success ([32:02])

  • Hannah discusses the disconnect between filming in isolation and later recognition:
    “It doesn’t feel like it’s happening to me...it just feels so separate.”
  • Fourth nomination still feels “psycho” and unreal.

• Top Scene: Throwing the Bronzino ([33:33])

  • Channeling Philly rage in a memorable “Hacks” moment; Hannah connects the character’s outburst to the “I’m not angry, I’m from Philly” spirit.
  • “Some of the dramatic work has been rewarding, but that is probably top two. I mean, it all comes back to Philly...” ([33:33])

• Chemistry with Jean Smart ([34:43])

  • Hannah reflects on her genuine off-screen bond with Jean Smart, rooted in shared humor, instant connection, and resilience.

6. Cheerleading: “Tell Me Immediately” Segment

• Physical Toll & Misconceptions ([36:56]; [37:50])

  • Hannah’s special “Everything Must Go” and her battered cheerleader knees spurs Kylie’s TMI segment.
  • “When I bend down, my knees sound like a gambling addict juggling dice.” — Hannah ([37:07])
  • Hannah unpacks the elite athleticism, danger, and respect deserved by cheerleaders:
    • “Athletes lift weights, cheerleaders lift athletes...it is so many multiple, like, different sports packed into one.”
    • “If people say cheerleading isn’t a sport, it just signals an ignorance.”

• Injury Stats & Parental Fear ([40:43])

  • Kylie notes cheerleading’s concussion rates rival other “big” sports; Hannah agrees on its real risks.
  • When asked which sport she wouldn’t want kids to play, Kylie picks swimming out of personal convenience:
    • “I don’t want to have to sit in a hot pool as the spectator and smell like chlorine when I leave.”
  • Hannah doubles down with, “It’s cheerleading. It’s dangerous. Bad for your body.”

7. Words of Wisdom—Acting & Eagles Rivalries

• Best Acting Advice ([46:29])

  • Hannah: “Honestly, know your lines.” Seemingly simple but often overlooked, crucial for mental clarity on set.

• Advice for Visiting Cowboys Fans at the Link ([47:32])

  • “Say your prayer. You need a blankie. You want me to tuck in?... Because you’re gonna need God.” – Hannah
  • Kylie and Hannah cap it off with the inevitable: “Go Birds.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Go Birds is obviously a tool that can mean a million different things. It can do anything you need it to do.” — Hannah ([17:00])
• “When I think about my identity...I think the order is like, Eagles fan, queer, Jewish, left handed, redhead.” — Hannah ([21:31])
• “If my child looked at an opposing team’s fan and flipped them a double bird, I would cry tears of joy.” — Kylie ([23:08])
• “Athletes lift weights, cheerleaders lift athletes.” — Hannah ([39:27])
• “Say your prayer. You need a blankie. You want me to tuck in?... Because you’re gonna need God.” — Hannah ([47:39])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Mom Life & Everything Showers: 06:00–09:00
• Doom Scroll (Baby Hippo, Grandparent Dropoffs): 09:00–14:00
• Women in Sports Social Audio (& Mina Kimes): 14:00
• Hannah Joins, Eagle Fandom Deep-Dive: 15:40–26:40
• Philly Accent Segment: 27:14–29:32
• Behind the Scenes of Hacks: 31:37–36:42
• Cheerleading, Injuries, and Respect as a Sport: 36:42–46:08
• Best Acting & Eagles Game Advice: 46:08–48:06

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Tone, Vibe & Final Thoughts

The episode is an energetic, conversational, Philadelphia-proud hangout—irreverent but heartfelt. Both Kylie and Hannah share unfiltered truths from parenthood, sports, and entertainment, interspersed with inside jokes, fan-girl moments, and rich family anecdotes. Whether you’re an Eagles lifer, a “Hacks” devotee, or just love strong female voices busting stereotypes (especially in sports and comedy), this episode delivers laughs, authenticity, and a big, green-hearted “Go Birds!”

Transcript

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[B]

Hey, girl, love when we meet like this, Um, I would like to explain myself. So you and I were having a totally casual conversation about episode runtime, as we do. Not sure who brought that topic up.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

Yeah, it just comes up sometimes. And I said something to the effect of, hey, I think including the ads in the 45 is criminal.

[A]

Yeah, you did say that.

[B]

And I think you agreed.

[A]

I think you caught me at a weak. I. I think you caught me at a weak moment. I gave you the 48.

[B]

Okay. The out. All right, all right. I'll let you get back to your show.

[A]

We're doing 48 now. I'm not pleased about it, but we're doing 48 because Queen Emma, she's persistent. Chat. Let's move on to. Can I be honest? Oh, my God. And in case you were wondering, we have been trying to include chat in our regular everyday vernacular. And chat. It's working. Oh, God, it was bad. It's. No. Every time I say it, I feel like my body rejects it. We're working on it. Can I be honest? Last week I gave the real ones my list of small joys I miss most as a mom and you all chimed in with some of your own. That definitely passed the vibe. Check a couple of my favorites. We're going to try to say some names. Alyss Rogers 5 having to share my snacks. Nailed it. I actually have adapted to putting more of whatever I'm eating in my bowl so that when I am asked for some I can share and I still get closer to the amount I want. You still end up with less. Morgan Raiko Gang said I miss a Bedrot day or Netflix binge so bad. Oh my gosh. Yes. Yes. I would love to put on an adult show to binge and not be yelled at. It's a shame if I could binge a show right now. Ooh. Or it's Fall's coming is Gilmore Girls back in guys I bing shows based on the season. Well, one of my small joys that appeared to hit home with the real ones was my desire to take an everything shower whenever I want. So today I'm going to get honest about mom showers versus everything showers. An everything shower, I think it's pretty explanatory. It's when you actually get to shave your legs, exfoliate, maybe even moisturize after the shower. What? Well, dream big. That's different from a mom shower because a mom shower is honestly pits and crotch bare minimum. Pits, crotch, butt, bare minimum. For anyone who isn't a parent, there are certain things that you have to do sometimes to be able to shower. Now, there have been times where it has been me home with specifically Wyatt and I were home a lot. Just the two of us. And honestly, bringing her into the bathroom with the entire swing. Okay. And the only swing that could get her to calm down at all when she was in it and not touching another human was this giant one. It was, I mean, wide as hell. And I would have to collapse it halfway to get it through the doorway of the bathroom and then I would have to step over it to get into the shower. I once brought the pack and play in the bathroom at the shore. And even if someone else is home in the house, at least one of them ends up in the bathroom if I'm showering. So. And they'll stand outside and just yell to me the whole shower. Like I like we couldn't just have this conversation when I get out? And the minute I get out, guess what? No more interest. I actually don't. I don't want to talk to you anymore. So it was either out of volume, yelling over the water, or not at all. And now this conversation's over. Let me know if that happens to you because we're having fun. That's it for can I be honest Chat. Next up, Doom Scroll. First up on Doom Scroll. I know we've sort of become an unofficial turtle podcast, but this week we might be a hippo podcast because there's a baby hippo named Mars proving that mom face is universal. Queen Emma, the clip please. Oh, it's a little hippo. It says us telling Mars it's time to get out of the pool versus his mom telling him it's time to get out. There's a keeper just shoving his tiny little hiney along. Oh, he's like, oh, mom's giving him the look. And. And mom gave him the look. She came over to the edge of the pool. She said, you get your ass out of there. And guess what? Mars got his ass out of there. So safe to say Posey hit him with the mom face. That's his mom. His mom. Posey hit him with the mom face. And I would say 11 out of 10. Posey, you nailed that so hard. I do like that she went to the extra effort of walking to the edge of their pool. Like, hey, you see how far I had to walk over here to collect your ass? That means you better have some pep in your step. And then he. He scurried. He legitimately scurried. He was like, oh, here we go. I love that so much. I love that this crosses species, that it's not just a human thing, that it is a universal mom thing. If I had to pick another animal that displayed mom face. She's all serious. I'm taking this question. Did you know that that was gonna happen? I have to say it. I think a cheetah, because their face markings are already giving. And so to be able for them to just lock in and sort of like cut the face. I feel like they would nail it. I feel like they would. Okay, next up, there's a TikTok trend of parents dropping their kids off at their grandparents doorsteps and pretending to run away. And I can relate, especially right now. I might do this with Finn today. I might. Nobody tell my mom. Queen Emma, roll the cl. Yep. So she knocked. She ding dong ditched with the child and the diaper bag. Michelle, look, all of the grandparents that I've seen this trend done on are so excited to see the kid. They're not even pissed at their child. All of them have been like, oh my gosh, you're here, let me make you a snack. And honestly, how do I get dropped off at my parents house and have my mom do that? I'm just kidding. If I show up to my mom's house unannounced, she will offer me a snack because Lolis is the queen. I know for a fact that if I left any of our four children or all four children on the front step of my parents house that they would just usher them inside and not think twice about it. But what I will say is I couldn't drop off all four kids because, well, let's be real, because White would rat my ass out. She'd be like, hey, so mom's actually, she's around the corner on the side porch. She would do it in a heartbeat. She wouldn't think it was like funny or anything. She'd be like, you gotta get your girl Nana last on Doom scroll, there's a trending TikTok sound from the other podcast that I can confidently say is one of the most badass things ever said on there. And now it's being used by so many women across the sports world, including ESPN analyst Mina Kimes and Queen Emma. Hit it. And I think we all know that if there's one thing that male sports fans want to see in their spaces and on their screens, it's more of me. It's so good. Let me tell you, the clip for our audio listeners is Mina, essentially on every ESPN show. And I love this because I'm gonna tell you right now, Mina would not be on every show if she wasn't absolutely nailing it. Okay? So yeah, fact is, Mina, I want to see you on our screens. But I do love this. I love this audio so much. I love it. I love all the women in sports that I have seen using this trend. Alona Mar, Livy Dunn, Nebraska Volleyball team There have been so many women who have taken this audio and just absolutely nailed it. So men get used to it, suckas. Coming up, Hannah Einbinder and I are gonna shout go Birds. At each other for probably 60 minutes. So buckle up. But first, this minivan mini update brought to you by Toyota. The real ones heard me say it last week. I've officially been won over by my Toyota Sienna. It happened. And I'm shockingly okay with it. Even though I've been wavering. I have to admit, once field hockey season rolled around, I realized I'm probably in this for the long haul. I love that when I'm carrying all my equipment back to the car. I can kick my foot underneath and the trunk just opens up so I can unload everything right away. I don't have to put it down and find my keys and do the whole dance. You know what I mean? The other thing, that's honestly very underrated. The cooling seat. Because your girl's sweaty. Not only is the Toyota Sienna insanely convenient for a high school field hockey coach, I apparently earned some cool points too. Or are they called aura points? Chat, help a millennial mom out. My players thought that it was so cool. They were like, oh, my gosh, that green really brings out your eyes. That is an incredible car that clearly can hold all of our equipment and your kids at the same time. They were like, have you ever looked cooler in your whip? Do kids even say whip anymore? I'm kidding. They didn't say any of this. Darn it. If you want to give the minivan life a try and join me in my Toyota Sienna, I highly recommend taking it for a test drive at your local Toyota dealership and heading to toyota.com sienna to learn more.

[B]

I'm starstruck.

[A]

Stop.

[B]

I am. I don't. I'm not one of these people who, like, cares about, like, the royal family. Like, I really don't. Like, I'm not invested in the British Empire in any way. Yes, you are my Princess Diana. Okay? And I'm not just saying that because I'm in the jacket. You are that girl. I am actually starstruck. It's crazy. Like, I can't believe I'm meeting you. Seriously, you are so cool, Kylie.

[A]

Oh, no. Has said no one ever.

[B]

So awesome. No, honey, you can't just.

[A]

You can't bring the heat like that.

[B]

I'm sorry. I'm forward.

[A]

Let me try to read sentences and then I will bow.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. She is the four time Emmy nominated and three time Golden Globe nominated actress from HBO's hit comedy series Hacks. She's also a standup comedian. You know her from her special, Everything Must Go. And perhaps most importantly, she's a die hard lifelong Eagles fan who I've been excited to talk to for a very long time and of course have no business. Hannah Einbinder. Welcome to Not Gonna Lie and Go Fucking Birds. Go Birds, baby. Let's go. Now. I. First of all, have you ever done an interview where you didn't say go Birds?

[B]

No. I think go Birds is obviously a tool that we know can mean a million different things. You know, congratulations. You just had a Baby. Go Birds. You know, hello, goodbye. I'm sorry for your loss in some cases, you know what I mean, like, it can do anything you need it to do. So I'll throw it in whenever I can.

[A]

I love that so much. Now, before we get into anything else, I do need to start with my own. Not gonna lie, my first introduction to you was actually. It wasn't from hacks. It was from another masterpiece of yours that made its rounds on the Internet. I believe we have the clip right here. Queen Emma, can you roll it, please? Philadelphia teams have had to deal with loss, with disappointment, with anguish, with pain.

[B]

For so many years.

[A]

And I thank the good Lord for blessing us and blessing the Eagles and for winning this game.

[B]

All our family is back in Philly.

[A]

Uncle Eddie, how do you like us now? See this? See this jersey? That's why my name's on the back. Because I'll never be traded. Never. Never. Eagles. E, G, L, E, S. Eagles. That genuinely makes me tear up. Okay, first of all, who is that sweet gentleman standing next to you?

[B]

That's my dad.

[A]

Of course it is.

[B]

That My is. You know. You know. You know that Silver Linings Playbook is a documentary, you guys. You know that being an Eagles fan is genetic. It is in the blood.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You know, my dad. That was a 2018 Super Bowl. My dad, you know, he grew up in Philly, and he. You know, his dad was from South Philly, and his mom was from South Philly, and they. They had these seats at the vet. And throughout my dad's childhood, the birds were losing. They were losing bad, and they were there every game in the snow, you know, no matter what. And it was painful. And I grew up understanding that legacy, you know, and I grew up understanding that pain. And so I knew what this meant to him, to us, to our family, to his father, who. And I will say this was not on the clip, but he did sort of go into the alleyway after that little spot on the news. And I watched him point to the sky with tears and say, this one's for you, dad. So just so everybody knows, what's. Like, this is that we were hammered, obviously. And just, like, it was so meaningful.

[A]

The sad part is, is that I don't know that it was obvious that you guys were hammered, because I do feel like that is the same. The standard of Philadelphians.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

I want to clarify that. I think that is the. The. The baseline at which we all function.

[B]

That's to be clear. So that's a fact.

[A]

But I Do think there is something to be said about. Like you said you're born into this, right? Like, not only do you not have a choice, but you better get in there with a passion that no one has seen before. And there are few prouder moments with your than the way you relate to each other in how you cheer on the Eagles.

[B]

It's also like, I mean, that organization really cares about the fans. Like, my beloved aunt Cindy passed and my uncle Eddie inherited the tickets that my grandfather had first at the Vet and then at the Link, which by the way, when they tore down the Vet, my dad went to Philly and he got the physical seats when they were letting people go get the seats. And like, that was so cool. We had the seats in the garage. And you know, when, when my aunt Cindy passed, like, because Eddie was just always at every game, like they sent a beautiful message. Like, they know their fans and they care about us. It's probably like the. Like, when I think about my identity, I think the order is like, Eagles fan, queer, Jewish, left handed redhead. Like, I think it's at the. I think it's above all of those other things.

[A]

It's honestly. But I've tried to explain to people that it's not only what you're born into, what, how you were raised. Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Our. Our daughters have known the Eagles fight song since they could speak. Like, it was part. It was in our nursery rhyme rotation. That's right. But also, like, it is something that brings together a community of people. So, like, obviously people on the outside looking into Philadelphia often have a lot of scrutiny for the way that we conduct ourselves. Our attitudes, I think are part of the problem.

[B]

Underneath all of that is a lot of love. And I just. I mean, it's. Yeah, it is like this cultural thing that maybe is hard to explain to people from the outside, but, you know, we don't care.

[A]

We really don't.

[B]

We really don't. We really don't.

[A]

Now, speaking of the Philly attitude, I have one more Eagles related clip that I need to play you because it proves there's zero doubt that you bleed green Queen Emma, the clip, please.

[B]

Oh, my God. You're at a sporting event and the person next to you becomes raucous, taunting young fans. How do you handle this? Well, see, I'm the wrong person to ask. Huge sports fan, really into the Philadelphia Eagles. Specifically, the person in this scenario. That's me taunting young fans. I will taunt a child. What more can you say? I mean, that's a perfect summary there.

[A]

One A while ago, there was a clip of a little boy just dropping the double bird and to. To a visiting fan and oh my God. It's one of those moments, especially because I have four children of my own, where I'm like, I tell my kids, like, curse words are grown up words. You're not really supposed to use them. If my child looked at an opposing team's fan and flipped them a double bird, I would cry tears of joy. Just. I'm not going to tell them to do it and I'm not going to encourage it. But if their soul spoke to them, if all of the former Eagles fans who have passed on, God rest their souls, came down and imparted the wisdom onto her that she needed to double bird an opposing fan, it would be one of the most beautiful moments of my parenthood that I can even imagine.

[B]

Because again, it is. It is the presentation of aggressive with the subtext of love.

[A]

Yes, I will say that because we have fans. I've said it so many times that fans end up having truth serum to my husband. So they'll come up to him and they'll be like, I'm a Giants fan and I say the same two things every single time. Number one, everyone has their flaws. And number two, we can see eye to eye that Dallas sucks.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

So like at the now, if I meet a Cowboys fan, I have been known to step a few steps away and take a picture like this.

[B]

Because.

[A]

The one person was wearing a Cowboys jersey and I was like, I can't stand next to you. You think I'm gonna co sign that dumbass decision? No, it's not me. It's not me.

[B]

Let me tell you something. When you made the decision to obviously support your family and wear the color red, but not wear an opposing team's jersey, I said, well, there's my representation in media. There is the person on screen who I can see myself in. That is the first time I have felt seen in all of film, television history.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because.

[A]

Because this. Okay, then I can ask you the question and maybe it'll help people who are still having some type of conflict with that decision. If you ever put on another team's even an emblem. Okay. What would your father say?

[B]

He would disown me. Okay.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

It's not a. It's not. It can't happen. It can't happen. Now look, I was born in Los Angeles. My dad is from Philly. You know, I have absorbed his tradition. I am fully in. I don't wear la paraphernalia Even though I love Los Angeles, I'm super proud of la, of the culture here. Like, my love for Los Angeles is a separate thing. So you're not gonna. On one day, you're not going to. You're not going to wear a Jeez jersey.

[A]

You get it?

[B]

It's not possible.

[A]

Here's the thing. Your love of LA is separate from your sports fandom.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

My love of my brother in law separate from my sports fandom.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

So now do they intersect a little bit? Yes. That's what makes this a little inconvenient. But. But I have made it abundantly clear to Travis and I will say it until I'm blue in the face. I love him and I want him to be successful.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

But go Birds.

[B]

No, but go Birds.

[A]

So as an actor, I gotta ask.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Can you do the Philly accent?

[B]

I can, yeah.

[A]

Okay. And who does it best and why is it Tina Fey?

[B]

She's really good at it. She's really good at it.

[A]

Do you think that you could rival her in the Philly accent?

[B]

That's tough. I would never want to go toe to toe with the ledge. But, you know, I mean, I do. I. You know, it's funny. My best friend Emma, who's also from Philly, but she lives in la, she says that when I start to drink, I start to get more of a Philly. Like, guys, I'm fully from Los Angeles. I don't know what it is, but it's like my dad, like, I'm just like, he still has an accent. So I think it is in me in a way that is like very real.

[A]

Okay. If you were going to pick, like, if you could hit us with like a. I'm going to go get a hoagie. Go Birds.

[B]

Okay. I'm going to go get a hoagie. Go Birds. No, you know what I mean?

[A]

No notes. You're from.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

It's like me fold.

[B]

Let's go. We're going down there. We're going to go hang out with her and him. Which one? And go over there. No problem.

[A]

Perfect.

[B]

100%.

[A]

If you do not. If you do not find an opportunity to play someone from Philadelphia.

[B]

Doll, I'm looking.

[A]

Thank you so much.

[B]

I got you.

[A]

Because I'm sure you understand this. And I made the. I made the example of mayor of Easttown. Yes. For some reason, Philadelphia has this pride not only with their sports teams, but if there is anything related to us Silver Linings playbook. Perfect example. Beautiful documentary. I genuinely watching it over and over again, you're like, oh, that's this diner. Oh, they're on that street.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, did you hear that? Oh, you heard the accent. Oh, I love that. He was so obsessed about where the remote was. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yes, we. It validates us in a way that I can't even explain. And because of that, I feel like you have to get in there.

[B]

We, we gotta get in there. I'm always going, and what if it took place in Philly?

[A]

Perfect.

[B]

And what if she's from Philly? Like, I am so pro that and working on it, like in an actual way, genuinely.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

I'd love to switch gears a little bit and talk to you about your incredibly successful career. First of all, congratulations on your Emmy nomination for hacks this year. Best supporting actress in a comedy. Thank You. Now, I know this is your fourth nomination, but does it get any less exciting every time? Because that is a nomination in itself is incredible.

[B]

It's crazy. It doesn't feel like it's happening to me, if that makes sense. It's very hard for me to identify with that, to be like, that is me and that is real and that is my life. Like, I. I find this level of like, oh, that's so. It's such a bizarre and extreme and huge, colossal thing that I, like, have trouble relating to myself because, like, we make the show in isolation. We, like, it's a totally different experience than being, like, out and perceived in public and all of these things that, like, it just feels so separate. Like, the work that it actually takes to make the show every single day. And, like, the perception just feels like this alien thing to me. So it's so bizarre and, like, hard for me to even wrap my head around, honestly. But what I think is crazy to me is, like, the four time of it all is psycho. Like, I'm like, that's nuts.

[A]

Like, that is. It just means that you're continuing to deliver is what it means.

[B]

Well, that's the athlete mindset. I'm like, let's get those knees up. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Now, there's a very memorable scene in this most recent season of Hacks where your character gets so angry, she throws a literal Bronzino across the room. Where does this rank in your favorite moments from the show?

[B]

It's up there. It's definitely up there. I think some of the dramatic work that I've been able to do on the show has been rewarding. But I will say that that is, like, probably top. Top two. And again, like, I would like my. I. I mean, it all comes back to Philly, but, like, my dad had this shirt growing up that said, I'm not angry. I'm from Philly. And, like, I was channeling, like, the rage that we can access. Like, is like, that's, like, what that was. Like, I was like, let's go like this.

[A]

I'm gonna, like, watch the spiral on this.

[B]

Yeah. For real. No, literally, I'm like, the camera's here. I'm, like, trying to get it. No, literally. But it was just, like, it was a very cathartic moment. You know, when you yell and you really scream, it's like crying. Like, it's like there's catharsis in it and it's like, cleansing, almost. Like that was like, such a crazy experience and it. I thought it was pretty funny too, so I was proud of it.

[A]

As fans of the Hacks know you're a star alongside the legend Jean Smart.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

I have a clip here of you two that feels like it captures your real life dynamic. But you tell me. Okay, Queen Emma, your current favorite song.

[B]

Ooh, I love the new Heim song.

[A]

Relationship. Can you humm it, baby?

[B]

How can I explain that an innocent.

[A]

Mistake turned into 17 days fucking relationships?

[B]

I don't know that one, but sure, it's pretty good. I was gonna say something about Chapel Road.

[A]

First of all, you've nailed that so hard.

[B]

Oh, that old thing? No worries.

[A]

What did you guys bond over the most on set?

[B]

You know, we have like a. I think the reason that the show. One of the reasons that the show worked so well is because we had kind of an instant connection and we instantly kind of went to a place emotionally with each other that was really honest. And, you know, I feel like so much of our love on the show and in real life is bonding over our sense of humor. Like, we have the same sense of humor humor. Like we laugh at the same stuff and we can like kind of laugh and cry together. We've just like been through so much. And you know, I think like, she likes to spar. Like, she likes to like, do a little bit of like roasting and like, I, I too love that. Like, she's tough and really sensitive as well. So, like, we have fun with that. And you know, I mean, she, she maybe with the music of it all, like, she's more in the Frank Sinatra zone, which I can, which I can rock with. But yeah, we. We just like had this instant thing, you know, that you have with people you just like, who are like lifers. It's just like when you click, you click. Yeah, it was instant. We didn't have to build anything.

[A]

Yes. Now, like I mentioned in your intro, you're also a stand up comedian. You also put out your debut standup special, Everything Must Go on HBO last year. Congratulations.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

In the special, you talk about being a cheerleader in high school and how it ruined your body. I believe we have the clip. Queen Emma cheerleading ruined my body. Okay.

[B]

When I bend down, my knees sound like a gambling addict juggling dice.

[A]

Oh, does that hurt to hear? I'm 28.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now, first of all, we have had a segment on here that I like to call tmi. Some people say that TMI means too much information, but some people like me, like to say that it means tell me immediately. So I'm going to need you to tell me immediately about that knee injury.

[B]

Oh, my God. I mean, it's just like.

[A]

Just repeated.

[B]

It's just trauma landing on my knees from, like, you know, 10ft in the air, 20ft in the air, like, getting dropped. Like, you know, I was a flyer and I cheered in high school, and before that, I was a competitive cheerleader. And it's intense. It's like a. It's like a crazy sport. And I got a ton of injuries. I mean, like, I'm just, like, creaky. Like, I'm just like, really. My knees. Like, if I walk a certain amount, I'm having to, like, reset my kneecap. Like, I'm having to, like, lock it back in and play. Like, I should be wearing probably, like, a brace of some kind. It's bad. I just like. I'm like, I gotta figure that out. But, yeah, I'm just like. I just got aches and pains.

[A]

You know how it is now when people say that cheerleading is not a sport?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you ever, like, dive deeper into that? Do you ever, like, really press them on it and be like, okay, give me the reasons, because I don't know that they would be able to provide them.

[B]

No. I think people have a misconception about cheerleading, first of all, because it is seen as an accessory to another sport, like, culturally. And I think it's so rooted in misogyny, obviously, the way that, like, a sport that is so clearly feminine in many ways, which, by the way, like, I'm sorry. Like, I just have never met a more raw, hardcore bitch than a fudgeing cheerleader. Like, we are insane. Like, the limits that. That cheerleaders push their bodies. Do we have this saying that, like, athletes lift weights, cheerleaders lift athletes. Like, we are crazy. And it's like, it is so many multiple, like, different sports packed into one. It's dance, it's acrobatics, it's bodybuilding, it's weightlifting. You know, it is like. Like, literally, like Cirque du Soleil style. Crazy shit. And, you know, I think when people say that cheerleading is not a sport, it just. It just signals an ignorance. It signals a lack of information and kind of a. An incorrect perception of the sport itself. Like, they see you just, like they're standing there on the sidelines. That's not what it is. Competitive cheer has nothing to do with football, basketball. It doesn't have anything to do with any other sport dominated by men. It all about the routine. 2 minutes and 47 seconds of high Intensity, raw power. And it's amazing. And we make it look easy because it's because of the level of athleticism that is occurring. It's so. I think. I think people just. When they say it's not a sport, I'm like, oh, you're just, like, ignorant. You just don't know what you're talking about.

[A]

I think it's interesting. I'm not going to give exact numbers, but. But a while ago, I read a report on most concussions reported within sports, and cheerleading was very high up. Yeah. And if there is that much risk of injury, all these guys want, like, this brute force, like, oh, let's tackle each other. Let's do other, like, really, like, physically bash each other together. But we can acknowledge the physical threat that occurs when participating in cheerleading and acknowledge that you're pretty much getting the risk that you enjoy, but with a finesse.

[B]

It's also like, you know, you're throwing someone 20ft into the air and they could land on you. Like, y' all could knock heads together. Like, the threat of danger, by the way, in a pyramid, in something where people are, like, depending on each other. If something falls, you're getting the weight of 10 people on you. Like, it is similar to football in that way.

[A]

Like, there is even. Just. Even just in. Like, you'll have to. You'll have to help me on my terms. But a base and a flyer, even a single person base, you're still talking about. Even if the base does everything they're supposed to do perfectly. If the flyer twists themselves twice, slightly too far, they then have to accommodate and adjust immediately. I just think not enough credit is being given to the fact that people are legitimately flying through the air.

[B]

I just wish that people understood that intensity. It's like, crazy.

[A]

I do have to admit, I. I was not a cheerleader for multiple reasons. I. I'm not. I'm not a makeup girly. I am tall as fuck. I don't think that's very conducive unless you're just like a supporting cast.

[B]

We would. You would be you a back spot, probably.

[A]

Yeah. I can't do flips. Again, tall as hell. Gymnastics, anything in that realm was not really for me. There's a bunch of reasons. Right. My mom was a cheerleader. I. I respect it. It's funny now that we have four daughters and people will always say, like, what's the one sport you don't want them to participate in? Not once have I said cheerleading, because I'm gonna piss off a whole community Right now.

[B]

Go off. Do it.

[A]

It's swimming.

[B]

I'll rep you till the day I die. Swimming.

[A]

Let me tell you why I'm shaking. I have a. I have a reason. I don't want to have to sit in a hot pool as the spectator and smell like chlorine when I leave, when I never touch the pool. Okay, that's it. That's literally it. That's the whole reason. It's not like I enjoy watching swimming. Also, I've. I did the PA in college for two swim meets, too. I'm good. I've seen what I needed to see. Your child swims from. They're in the physical pool for a maximum of a:30. I am so out. I'm so out.

[B]

It's crazy, because that would be like. When I think about the same question, I'd be so worried about injuries that I'm like, oh, swimming is, like, good for the joints. Good for the thing.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Like, that is, like, the only. Perhaps, like, one of the only safe sports.

[A]

Yeah. But it's a very selfish answer of me.

[B]

It's a very selfish answer, but it's honest. And, you know, I. We sometimes in high school had to cheer for the water polo games. And I know that hot chlorine smell, and it's fudgeing. Nasty.

[A]

I. I will. Now that you've brought up the injury thing, maybe I should change my answer.

[B]

Fuck. That's what I swear. Like soccer. These girls are kicking shins. Fucking. I mean, you played field hockey, right?

[A]

Yes, I did.

[B]

Are you rocking with some. Some injuries?

[A]

Oh, I broke my nose. I had 13 stitches in my forehead. From a stick. No, it's like I had a hip surgery on both. One on each hip.

[B]

Holy shit.

[A]

I just. So maybe that's why injuries never cross my.

[B]

You're like, oh, you mean, like that? We all do.

[A]

Huh. That's weird. I thought we were all doing that.

[B]

Yeah, Literally. I'm like, I thought everybody's knees sound like sand.

[A]

Strange. Yeah, it's all cracking. That's interesting. Now, if you were going to pick a sport that you would not want the younger generation or a child to play.

[B]

I have to say, it's cheerleading. It's dangerous. Yes, it's dangerous.

[A]

It's.

[B]

Dangerous and bad for your body.

[A]

I'm going to package up you explaining your cheerleading injuries and your, like, the intensity of cheerleading. I'm gonna package it up. So the next time someone asks me, what sport do you not want your kids to play, I'm gonna say cheerleading. But, Hannah's, gonna explain why.

[B]

Yeah, she.

[A]

She gets it. Roll the clip. Well, my last question for you, Hannah. I like to ask all my guests the best piece of advice they've ever received, whether it be motherhood advice, comedy advice, sisterhood advice for you. What's the best piece of acting advice that you've ever received?

[B]

Honestly, know your lines. Like, I think from what I gather, from what I hear and from what I have observed in certain situations, that is something that you would think is obvious, but that is, like, not all the way being done by folks. And I think that, like, I mean, before, because I didn't have acting experience, like, I was just a standup comic. I think that helps so much because it's, like, a lot to hold in your head if you're, like, trying to think of the words and also trying to remember the direction and trying to remember the physical choreography, because you have to keep doing the same thing over and over so they can cut it all together and it makes sense. And your hand isn't up here or down here. Like, there's a lot to hold mentally. So if you don't have the lines, like, it's just crazy.

[A]

That's such a simple, short, sweet, and.

[B]

To the point, you know, I like it. It's pretty simple.

[A]

Now let's do it with a Philadelphia twist.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

What advice would you give a Cowboys fan who shows up to the link two weeks from today?

[B]

Say your prayer. You need a blankie. You want me to tuck in?

[A]

Perfect.

[B]

Why don't you say a little prayer? Because you're gonna need God.

[A]

I can't. Perfect. Go. And go birds.

[B]

And go birds. And by the way, Kylie, go birds. Parentheses I love you.

[A]

I love it so much. Oh, my gosh. I cannot thank you enough for coming on.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I'm so ready for eagles season. I am so ready to wish you luck at the Emmys this year. I, I, I'm so happy we got to do this. And of course, go birds.

[B]

Go birds.

[A]

I love it. And that's a wrap on another episode of not gonna lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Hannah on my YouTube channel on more shit Monday. Real ones. Please send me more questions for ask me me some things. I'm going to answer a bunch more very soon. Submit them right now on our subreddit page. We have a right page RNGL with Kylie or comment on YouTube, Spotify or any social media at NGL with Kylie. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcast. Not gonna lie is a wave original brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Thanks to the real ones for tuning. She wore the jacket.

[B]

This is the only thing that will matter to my family. That I have done.

[A]

Yes. That's so good.