Kylie & Jerrod Carmichael on Rooting For Travis, Meeting The Kelces & Banned Kids TV Shows | Ep. 28

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Kylie & Jerrod Carmichael on Rooting For Travis, Meeting The Kelces & Banned Kids TV Shows | Ep. 28"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
• Host: Wave Originals (Hosted by Kylie Kelce)
• Episode: 28
• Release Date: July 24, 2025
• Description: Kylie Kelce, known as football’s favorite family member, delves deep into her personal experiences beyond being a “football wife.” Each episode features candid conversations with guests from pop culture, sports, and entertainment.

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1. Introduction and Episode Overview (00:00 - 05:56)

Kylie Kelce kicks off the episode with a light-hearted welcome from the beach, addressing some playful banter about her recent appearance in the YouTube documentary "Kelsey According to Sharon." She humorously mentions grappling with terms like "labubu" and "lefufu," clarifying misconceptions about accessories like keychains versus bag charms.

Notable Quote:

Kylie Kelce (00:30): “With the Venmo Debit card, you can Venmo everything... Let's get this podcast started.”

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2. NFL Training Camp Insights (05:56 - 19:27)

Kylie transitions into discussing the onset of the NFL training camp, emphasizing her family's long-standing relationship with the Eagles' camp over the years. She reflects on her husband Jason Kelce's experiences during preseason, highlighting the challenges and joys of being a spouse during this intense period.

Key Points:

• Family Dynamics: Kylie shares anecdotes about Jason's dedication, such as his routine of staying at the hotel during camp hours.
• Children's Perspective: Their children enjoy attending training camps to see Jason and engage in light-hearted play on the field.
• Public Perception: Kylie addresses misconceptions about Jason interacting with objects like trash cans, clarifying their use in training.

Notable Quote:

Kylie Kelce (10:15): “Even when Jason would stay at home for training camp, it was still the only thing we got to do was, like, sleep next to each other.”

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3. Doom Scroll of the Week: Women's Sports and Kids’ TV Shows (19:27 - 46:03)

a. Focus on Women's Sports (19:27 - 33:10) Kylie delves into a "Doom Scroll" segment, starting with the WNBA All-Stars' impactful statement highlighting the pay disparity between WNBA and NBA players.

Key Discussions:

• Revenue Disparity: WNBA players earn only 9% of the league's revenue compared to NBA players' 50%, leading to ongoing negotiations for fair compensation.
• Media Rights Growth: With new media rights valued at $2.2 billion, there's a push for a larger revenue share to appropriately compensate female athletes.
• Impact on Future Generations: Emphasizing the role models female athletes provide for young women and the importance of their contributions to the sports industry.

Notable Quote:

Kylie Kelce (25:00): “They are not looking to be paid as much as the men. They are looking for a larger share of the revenue.”

b. Kids’ TV Shows Guide (33:10 - 46:03) Kylie presents her "No Lie Parents Guide to Kids TV," categorizing shows based on her personal preferences and their educational value.

Categories:

1. Educational & Entertaining: Ms. Rachel, Little Bunny Sleeping, Sesame Street.
2. Highly Rewatchable: Bluey, Peppa Pig, Zaboomafu.
3. Childhood Favorites: The Big Comfy Couch, SpongeBob SquarePants, PB&J Otter, Bear in the Big Blue House.
4. Background Shows for Busy Parents: Tots, Puppy Pals.
5. Confusing Shows: Yo Gabba Gabba, Chicken Squad.
6. Banned Shows: Cocomelon, Blippi, Teletubbies.

Notable Quote:

Kylie Kelce (39:00): “Cocomelon locks kids in the way Coco Melon locks them in... It is not good. Sorry, Cocomelon. No, I'm not.”

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4. Conversation with Jerrod Carmichael (46:03 - 46:03)

Kylie sits down with Gerard Carmichael, an Emmy-winning stand-up comedian, writer, and actor, to discuss his latest endeavors, including his new stand-up special "Don't Be Gay" on HBO Max.

Key Topics:

• Meeting at a Buffalo Game: Kylie and Gerard recount their first meeting at a Kelce game in Buffalo, including humorous moments like Jason Kelce's shirtless antics.

  Notable Quote:

  Gerard Carmichael (19:27): “We like excitement, we like an adventure. We like to see people shirtless, jumping through flames.”

• Football Loyalties: Gerard shares his journey from rooting for the Indianapolis Colts in Madden to becoming a Chiefs fan after a memorable interaction with Travis Kelce.

  Notable Quote:

  Gerard Carmichael (23:03): “Travis gave me a hug and I'm like, I will follow you wherever you go. We're like Chiefs all of a sudden.”

• Stand-Up Career: Gerard discusses his new special, the creative process behind it, and his experiences hosting major events like the Golden Globes and SNL.

  Notable Quote:

  Gerard Carmichael (31:35): “This is the most I've ever worked on a set... It's just stand up... I'm really proud of it.”

• Social Media and Mental Health: The duo talks about the impact of social media on mental health, with discussions on avoiding negative comments and the challenges of maintaining privacy.

  Notable Quote:

  Gerard Carmichael (32:14): “I can't read anymore because my feelings have been hurting so much that I cannot read anymore.”

• Parenting and Hypotheticals: They humorously explore hypothetical scenarios about raising a child together, highlighting their differing views on parenting styles and education.

  Notable Quote:

  Gerard Carmichael (26:53): “How do you make a cool kid? It's really important to me that the child is cool.”

• Acting Roles: Gerard reflects on his acting career, expressing his love-hate relationship with the craft and his aspirations for future roles.

  Notable Quote:

  Gerard Carmichael (43:56): “Acting is something I can do, but I'm not like... I haven't been able to just get lost in a role to fully enjoy it.”

• Comedy Advice: The best comedy advice Gerard received is to avoid trying too hard to be cool, as authenticity resonates more with audiences.

  Notable Quote:

  Gerard Carmichael (45:17): “The way to not be cool is to try to be cool... If you try to be cool, it'll be the least cool thing you've ever done.”

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5. Closing Remarks and Promotions (46:03 - End)

Kylie wraps up the episode by promoting Gerard’s new special "Don't Be Gay," encouraging listeners to watch it on HBO Max. She also teases upcoming content on her YouTube channel and promotes the podcast's merchandise.

Notable Quote:

Kylie Kelce (45:55): “You should. It's hilarious. It was incredible.”

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Conclusion

Episode 28 of "Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce" offers a blend of personal anecdotes, insightful discussions on women's sports and media consumption, and an engaging conversation with renowned comedian Gerard Carmichael. Kylie’s candid approach provides listeners with an authentic glimpse into her life and the dynamic interactions within her family and guest circle.

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Produced by Wave Originals and Sponsored by Visible.

Transcript

[Kylie Kelce]

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I'm your host, Kylie Kelce. I was reluctantly in a documentary called Kelsey According to Sharon on YouTube, I have a potty mouth. Thanks. Sharon and I unfortunately do know what a labubu is. They're haunting me. I saw one hanging off of someone's purse. I'm not sure if it was a labubu or a lefufu. What are we doing? Also people calling it a bag charm. It's not a bag charm, it's a keychain. The also you can see I'm taping from our shorthouse set today. Jason went on record saying that my setup makes him look better, which I think it's very hard for him to look bad. So let's start there. But second, that is almost to me saying that this is enhancing for me. Also, when I came in to put my headphones on, they were stretched out. It was like the cutest little, like, oh, he was here. But also, I look good without these lights. I almost, I almost said it with my whole chest. Almost. Then I was like, they're really helping the bags under my eyes. Okay. Coming up on today's episode, NFL training camp starts this week. So I'm going to get honest about our family's experience with Eagles camp over the years. After that, you're going to hear my conversation with Emmy award winning stand up comedian Gerard Carmichael. I had no business talking to Jarrod, but it was incredible. We got to chat for the first time ever in Buffalo when Jason jumped out of the suite and did his whole, like, ah, shirtless. But before we get to that quick merch update, we've officially restocked and extended our range of sizes on our merch. We've got you real ones. Check it out now at ngl kylie.com Queen Emma knows that I can't let this one go. So if anyone knows a person who owns NGL with kylie.com and they want to rat them out or they want to, you know, come forward themselves, like, just. Just come forward and tell us. We want to know. We just want to have a conversation. All right, moving on. Let's get into the brand new edition of Can I Be honest this week? Can I be honest about NFL training camp? I'm gonna be. This is now the second training camp since my husband has retired. So I want you to take all of these thoughts with a grain of salt. I know we are two years removed now, and it's lovely. For anyone who isn't Familiar with the NFL, as of today, 32 teams have officially started training camp. That's basically preseason. Okay? Another name for it. The Eagles have the option for the guys to stay overnight. Jason, when we were living in the suburbs, would often just move down to the hotel because they are there for so many hours during the day. And then all he does is go to sleep, get up, and do the exact same thing the next day. And then they would get one day off a week, and he would come home the night before, be home all day the next day, and then report back. The best part about being a spouse during preseason is when preseason's over, it's. It's not great. Even if. Even when Jason would stay at home for training camp, it was still the only thing we got to do was, like, sleep next to each other. So he wasn't home for dinner, he wasn't home for breakfast. So while Jason was playing, we had Wyatt, Ellie, and Benny. So in an effort for the girls to see Jason and to get to play with him and sort of enjoy some time, we would go to training camp probably once or twice a week. But the girls would love to go to training camp for two reasons. Number one, Reedus water ice. And number two, they got to play with Jason on the field afterwards. There's a lot of videos over the years that have come out specifically Jason playing with the trash cans. People were bothered by that because it was a trash can. But what you don't know is that at those practices, those trash cans are Just used to store footballs so it's not gross. There wasn't trash in the trash can prior to my children being in the trash can. So not that weird. That does it for. Can I be honest about training camp. Moving on, let's get to Doom scroll of the week. First up on Doom scroll, the WNBA All Stars made a statement in badass fashion. Okay. When they came out for their warm ups, their T shirts said, pay us what you owe us. Nafisa Collier from the Minnesota Links said it best. Queen Emma, the clip.

[Gerard Carmichael]

What do you mean by what you owe us?

[Kylie Kelce]

You know, the players of what is what is building this brand in this league? There is no league without the players. And you know, the past, present, the ones coming out. They're the ones that have put in the blood, sweat and tears for the new money that's coming in. And so we feel like we are all but a piece of that pie that we help to create. This feels very much like around and find out energy the league around. The players said find out. Check out my shirt. You know, these WNBA players currently make 9% of the league's revenue, which is low. You want to know why? I know it's low because the NBA players make 50% of the league's revenue. That's crazy. That is a massive disparity. Players, they're just looking for a larger share of the revenue. And this is an important point. They are not looking to be paid as much as the men. Okay? They're not looking for that because I think that's important to share. A lot of people, when they take issue with these conversations, are having issue with the fact that the women's side of the sports are not bringing in the same amount of revenue. And so therefore how are they supposed to be paid out at the same level as the men? Obviously, the WNBA knows what they're negotiating. The people whose argument is that they are not bringing in as much money as the men can kick rocks because that's not what the WNBA is trying to do. The new media rights for the WNBA, they will be worth 2.2 billion. If they have increased their value in media by six times, then we need to jump that percentage so that the players can get paid out appropriately. As Nafisa said, they're the ones who are creating the entertainment to bring in this revenue. They are the personalities that people are latching onto. They are the athletes that people are there to support. They are why the fans are there. You're not getting money unless those women are on that court. We're going to have in the WNBA three new teams by 2030. Shout out Philly. The ratings are up 23%. Ticket sales are up 26% since last year. We know that this has only sparked a fire that is burning bright. Okay, we are watching women's sports more than ever, but we need to make sure that our female athletes know that they can be compensated appropriately for being someone worth following. They are role models to young women everywhere and they are bringing in the revenue that they should get a share of. I love these shirts. I love the fuck around and find out energy. And to round out my doom scroll, I scrolled my way to an article from the Wrap with some news about one of my favorite kids TV shows. The headline says Ms. Rachel was the seventh most watched show on Netflix in the first half of 2025. It was also the most watched season of children's television on Netflix. Ms. Rachel, go off. We love that. I have said multiple times that we love Ms. Rachel and Ms. Rachel is great because she sings the songs that you would love. She, she does legitimate speech pathology tactics and practices within the show. And also my kids love her. Since I'm talking Ms. Rachel, I figured now would be a great time to debut a new NGL guide for parents looking for screen time recommendations this summer. As always, these are my personal opinions about kids shows. That doesn't mean you need to agree. And if you watch any of the ones that I may or may not talk some smack about, that's that's great. I'm going to be honest. I have no other way to function. So presenting my no lie Parents Guide to Kids tv. It's my first category. Put this on if you want something educational. But the music also slaps Ms. Rachel. Obvious. Okay. Little bunny sleeping. We were on that so hard. I can't tell you how many videos I have of my children pretending to go to sleep on the living room floor before they hopped the crap out of the rest of the song. Also, Sesame street. It's a throwback. Big Bird is aging like fine wine. I really I want to know his skincare routine because he doesn't look a day older than when I used to watch him when I was little. It's crazy. The second category I've seen every episode a hundred times and I'm actually okay with that. I'm going to tell you one of my favorite ones and I think I am. I think this is most parents favorites. Bluey first of all, short episodes. I love that because before bed we can say 1, 2, 3, episodes. Worse if we. Even. If you watch three episodes, you're barely hitting the threshold that you would hit if you watch one episode of something else. I love that. Another one that is very re. Watchable. Peppa Pig. Simple. It is lovely. It is honestly, kind of funny. Have you seen Daddy Pig? Zaboomafu. This is. This is mine. Zabumafu's mine. I put it on. Selfishly. I love that lemur. I love that he looks a little unhinged. I've said it before and I'll say it again. That show is for me. Third category. Shows from my childhood. I want them to appreciate. The Big Comfy Couch is the first one. Lunette and Molly are just hanging out on a couch. There's some dust bunnies underneath. They pull things out of the cushions. It's. It's a great show. The other shows that we watch from my childhood is spongebob. Classic. I don't need to explain myself. PB and J Otter. I can literally. The second I said that, it started the. Whoa. It's. It's stuck in my head. And the last one, Bear in the big Blue house. When he leans forward and sniffs the screen in the beginning, it looks just like Baloo. It's so cute. I miss that dog. The fourth category is shows to put on when mom needs to get other shit done. Okay. Big one dishes. Anything of like that I can't have kids interested in. Sometimes it's just a matter of sending an email or maybe I can't do something while someone's talking to me, so I need to give them one episode of something. And these are the shows that I. These are the shows that I put on. Number one Tots. I'm pretty sure I've expressed our love for Tots on here. Tots. Number one. We listen to the soundtrack in the car. Outstanding. It's very good. Underrated soundtrack. I have woken up multiple times at 2am singing the song in my head. They just get stuck in there. And the other one, Puppy Pals Bingo and Rolly are up to something. Category 5. What the fuck is going on here? These are shows that I really just have. I have a lot of questions. Number one. Yo Gabba Gabba. What the fuck? I'm sorry, what are. What are they? If you've not seen that, you should look it up. Just. Just Google Yo Gabba Gabba and you will literally say, what the fuck? Chicken squad? Why are chickens doing missions? Why are they doing missions? I'm confused. I like chickens, but I'm confused about this show, the last category, no offense, but it's banned from my house. Okay? These shows are banned for a multitude of reasons. Some of them, I'm pretty sure there are studies that have shown that these shows are not correct. They're. They shouldn't be. Let's just get into it. Number one, Coco Melon. No. Aggressively. No. So know that if Coco Melon comes up on any of the screens, my daughters say, oh, we're not allowed to watch that because I have doubled, tripled, quadrupled down. We are not watching Coco Melon in our house. I do think that we should question anything that locks kids in the way Coco Melon locks them in, specifically as early as Coco Melon does. Now, if you don't have kids yet or you haven't seen Coco Melon, you might think I'm being a little unreasonable and a little dramatic, but you're wrong. It is. It is not good. Sorry, Cocomelon. No, I'm not. I'm not. You're not allowed in my house. Don't come over. Yeah, I'm not answering the door. Blippi. I don't even know where to start with this one. Blippi is weird to me. I don't like it. I don't. I understand that some of it is educational. I understand that it started, like, as an educational base. I'm good. Teletubbies. This one is banned for a very specific reason. Ellie thinks it's creepy. They have TVs in their bellies. What? This. Teletubbies could kind of double. They could. They cross categories here because they could definitely go in category five with what the is going on here. But they are also very much banned from our house. So Della Dubbies. Both Category five and category six. Let's just go there. Last thing on my kids TV Guide. You'll notice I listed Sesame Street, a PBS show, in the top tier here, and that's because it's a timeless educational institution that everyone deserves to access. You see what I'm saying? Everyone deserves access to pbs. Don't worry. I'll be making a donation to the local PBS station. 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[Gerard Carmichael]

Hey, it is. It's funny hearing the title like oh it Is called Don't be gay. Happy Pride, everyone.

[Kylie Kelce]

For anyone who doesn't know, we met the first time at my brother in law's game in Buffalo.

[Gerard Carmichael]

We were in Buffalo. We were in Buffalo.

[Kylie Kelce]

Why did we choose Buffalo?

[Gerard Carmichael]

You know, because we like excitement, we like an adventure. We like to see people shirtless, jumping through flames.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yeah. Now when you were introduced to like our family. Because my mother in law was there. I believe my father in law was there with us as well. When you were introduced to the Kelsey's, did you think that it was going to end up with someone shirtless jumping out of the suite?

[Gerard Carmichael]

You can't really expect that. You can't expect that because you think you meet a family and you don't expect like anybody to take their shirt off.

[Kylie Kelce]

They'll be on their best behavior.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. Yeah. But it was fun. Your mother in law is really cool.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yeah.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Speaking of not going to lie.

[Kylie Kelce]

Right.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I really this. I every. I meet her and like she's like so nice and so kind and sees past all my bullshit like as well. I'm just like, like I can't, I don't do the fake voice work because she's like, it's not, it's not going to work. She's just, she's like, I love her.

[Kylie Kelce]

Did she make you work for it? A little bit?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. That's why I like, because it's just like none of that. She's like, save it like with like, like sweet. She's not mean at all.

[Kylie Kelce]

But it's just very sweet.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Very sweet. But just like, I don't need this.

[Kylie Kelce]

That's me.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I don't need the thing that you're like, hey, nice, how's the weather? Like I don't need that shit.

[Kylie Kelce]

She doesn't want small talk.

[Gerard Carmichael]

She doesn't want small talk. I love that. I love that. I love that.

[Kylie Kelce]

Go ahead, Donald. We have the photo right there of Jason.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. That was great because Jason's really, I mean he really just, he embraced it. He embraced it and that was cool. That was really cool. We're all like, we're all just like, wow, is this really.

[Kylie Kelce]

This is happen.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Shirtless outfit.

[Kylie Kelce]

Look at the rest of the suite behind him. We before that game ended up in this little corner bar.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

That I don't know if they were known for near like anything particular, but it was, it felt to me like that is how you're supposed to experience Buffalo.

[Gerard Carmichael]

So you got there early.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yeah.

[Gerard Carmichael]

You're at a corner bar, you just like to hang out.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yeah.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Get to Know the locals. This is your first time in Buffalo?

[Kylie Kelce]

This was my first time in Buffalo. And we ended up seeing. Sitting at a table. I didn't even end up sitting at the same table as my husband. Like, we were. We were split. I'm telling you.

[Gerard Carmichael]

It was like he's got to be amongst the people.

[Kylie Kelce]

He's. He was deep in it.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

And we were getting like, paper boats of bar food.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Okay.

[Kylie Kelce]

Like, it was just. It was very. Yeah. Like, you know, like when you go to like a. Like a fair and they have the checked, like paper boats. And so they were just bringing out, like, pieces of pizza and. And I was just like, what are we.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

And all the people in there were lovely. They were so excited to see Jason. They were telling them him. How much they enjoyed watching him play.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

I think it was important that he was not a rival team. Like, they were not in the same conference and so it wasn't a threat.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He came in peace. He was able to be like, it was a diplomacy mission.

[Kylie Kelce]

Very much.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. No, but I remember. I remember being in a corner, like, with you, and just like. Like where it was safe.

[Kylie Kelce]

Right? Just like kind of in the corner.

[Gerard Carmichael]

We're kind of hiding in the back and like, it was like, really safe. I was like, asking. I was like, asking about food in Philly.

[Kylie Kelce]

We were in a comfort conversation back there.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was. Definitely made me feel warm in Buffalo. Thank you very much for that.

[Kylie Kelce]

No, absolutely. I did notice that you wore red to the game.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

Are you a Chiefs fan?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, my loyalty is with them, like, because I grew up in North Carolina, but like, my dad was a cow or is a Cowboys fan. So that was like in the house, like, cowboy. We had an Emmett Smith corner. Just like posters. Just like Michael Irving and Troy Aikman and all that was like. Like dolls and mugs and all those things were around the house.

[Kylie Kelce]

Right. But you had more sense about you.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. Well, so my. My into football was through Madden. I played Madden a lot.

[Kylie Kelce]

Perfect.

[Gerard Carmichael]

So I grew up playing Madden and playing. I played with the Colts and I played with. Who else did I play with? I was like Indianapolis Colts for. For a long time. And then I was like, I had no loyalty.

[Kylie Kelce]

Sure.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I had no loyalty. And then Travis was nice to me and I said, I will follow you wherever you go. Like, that's true.

[Kylie Kelce]

How?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Like. Like Travis. Like, like Travis gave me a hug and I'm like, I. Like, we're like Chiefs all of a sudden.

[Kylie Kelce]

You Were Tom.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Like, we're like pajamas. Like, like my boyfriend like wears a chiefs hat every day. Like we're immediately sold. We're like, yeah, yeah, no, you were. And, and the whole team like, like there. I've met some of them. So awesome. Like, they're so cool. So I'm, I'm definitely a Chiefs fan.

[Kylie Kelce]

I just cannot explain to you how much I love the fact that you did not go Cowboys.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I didn't go Cowboys. I didn't go Cowboys. It almost because my dad went so hard, it wouldn't allow me to. You kind of have to rebel against your father. Like he like so hard. That's his. He'll meet anybody on the streets and it's like his first question to them is like, how do you feel about the Cowboys? And every year and I just watched them go through.

[Kylie Kelce]

I would love for him to ask me that question.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, I know, but I watch. But to be a Cowboys house was like, it was really easy for like a couple years in the 90s and just devastating for the most part. It's just like over and over, like devastated. This is our year. This is our year. I heard it.

[Kylie Kelce]

How much disappointment can you take?

[Gerard Carmichael]

How much disappointment can you take? I don't even know who's playing for the Cowboys right now, but. But I just know my dad is. Is sad.

[Kylie Kelce]

That's okay. We'll say go Birds and go cheese.

[Gerard Carmichael]

From like October. From like October to Christmas is like. He's so sad. Yes. Weekly. He's just so.

[Kylie Kelce]

It's not seasonal depression, guys.

[Gerard Carmichael]

It's the Cowboys. Nothing to do with the weather. He's just sad for the Cowboys. Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

Every autumn, year after year.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

Well, at least we came. We know better.

[Gerard Carmichael]

But were you. How into football were you pre.

[Kylie Kelce]

Like, my dad only had two girls, me and my sister.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

So I was his stand in son to watch football. So I grew up watching football.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Really? Who'd you root for?

[Kylie Kelce]

The Eagles.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. Really? Okay.

[Kylie Kelce]

Bill Birds.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Wow.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yeah.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Wow. You really did it.

[Kylie Kelce]

Full circle.

[Gerard Carmichael]

You really did it. You committed.

[Kylie Kelce]

Well, it got to a point where like I. When Jason and I were dating, where I was like, hey, like if you ever play for any other team, like hypothetically. Hypothetically speaking, if you ended up at the Cowboys.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yikes.

[Gerard Carmichael]

What was your dad like when you're like.

[Kylie Kelce]

My dad was very mad.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Really?

[Kylie Kelce]

Yeah. Because he thought, typical athlete, you're gonna be a bimbo. Like perceived the bimbo. And then he met Jason was like, oh, yeah, I get it.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Oh, that's Great.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yeah.

[Gerard Carmichael]

No, I. I've seen Jason change hearts.

[Kylie Kelce]

Oh.

[Gerard Carmichael]

He see it like, that's like in Buffalo. I see him, like, change people's hearts. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

He jumped out of that suite to give people hugs.

[Gerard Carmichael]

He's like, what?

[Kylie Kelce]

What are we. Yeah. Chug beers and give hugs. That really. That sums him up.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Chug beers and give hugs.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yeah, yeah. Sums them up quite well. Yeah.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Can you tell me? I do want to know about having a kid because I really want to get one of those.

[Kylie Kelce]

Okay. Yeah.

[Gerard Carmichael]

And like, right now, like, me and my boyfriend, we get in arguments over our hypothetical child.

[Kylie Kelce]

Sure.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Like, like, we like how you raising them. How you raising them, how we're raising them. Schooling. I'm pro. Public school. He went to a private school.

[Kylie Kelce]

Sure.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Like, right now, hypothetical child's name is Bento. He's half black, half Japanese.

[Kylie Kelce]

Bento.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. Yeah. I call him Bento.

[Kylie Kelce]

Nickname or that.

[Gerard Carmichael]

It's a little nickname. It's a little nickname for him. But like, yeah, it's like Lil Bento. And we talk about Bento a lot.

[Kylie Kelce]

But we're not gonna make Bento his government name, are we?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Who knows? You know, maybe my name's Rathaniel, so anything goes.

[Kylie Kelce]

I love that.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Any. Like, it could be anything.

[Kylie Kelce]

Okay.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I love that. But little Bento, but, like, he could.

[Kylie Kelce]

He could have like, Ben or Ben. He could go by Ben or Benny if he doesn't feel committed to it. I love this. It's personal.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Or maybe if you can put quotation marks on a birth certificate. Is that. My question is, how do you make a cool kid? Cuz it's really important to me that the child is cool. That's all I talk about. And like, my boyfriend talks about education and like, first of all, with like, being gay, it's like we got too many options. Like, cuz, like, like, our baby will come via. Like, like, my lawyer will know first. You know, like, it'd be like a lot of paperwork signed and they gotta, like, fly a woman in from a place. It's like a lot of flights and paperwork before a child is in my home.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yes.

[Gerard Carmichael]

So it's already too many decisions pre trial. Like, what do you do to keep the kids cool?

[Kylie Kelce]

I have no fucking clue.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Cause, like, they have huge shoes to fill. As far as coolness, I'm not even talking about, like, career. I'm not talking about achievements. I'm talking about just cool parents. And I feel the same. Like, I feel like I'm pretty cool.

[Kylie Kelce]

Very.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Thank you.

[Kylie Kelce]

I feel like they Absorb. They'll have to absorb some of them.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

I do think that they come out who they are.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

It's hard. It's hard to.

[Gerard Carmichael]

You're just kind of there to, like, guys. Keep them safe and, like, keep them alive. Yeah. Keep them alive.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yep. And. And hope for the best.

[Gerard Carmichael]

But do you try and imprint? Because it'd be really hard for me not to do the thing.

[Kylie Kelce]

Like, I think just, like, being yourself and the way that you interact with your kids, they sort of pick up on all of that, and so they start to have little bits of your tendencies regardless. But the most beautiful thing about you choosing to have kids is that it is the most intentional.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

Child.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

And family.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

That's beautiful.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

I think you should.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I would love. I would love to have life not be about me. It's so me. My life is so me all day.

[Kylie Kelce]

But are you enjoying it?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, no, I like it, but it's like. I'm kind of, like, exhausted by it. It's just like, me, me, me. I love to have it be about someone else.

[Kylie Kelce]

Sure.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Like, oh, like now, the focus, the energy, like, the choice. Like, I have to consider someone else. Like, that would be nice.

[Kylie Kelce]

It's growth.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. Yeah. I like to grow up. Yeah. I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

[Kylie Kelce]

I didn't say grow up. You say grow up.

[Gerard Carmichael]

You know, I need to grow. I say growth. No, I need to grow up.

[Kylie Kelce]

Well, I'd love to get into your career a little bit.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Oh, now that we've got to talk about that.

[Kylie Kelce]

I do want to talk about that.

[Gerard Carmichael]

All right, we'll get back to Bento.

[Kylie Kelce]

First of all, congratulations. Yeah, we'll do. We'll come back to Ben. Don't worry. I'm coming back. Congratulations on your brand new standup.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Thank you.

[Kylie Kelce]

Don't be gay.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Thank you very much.

[Kylie Kelce]

Streaming now on hbo. Max, you. How do you feel that it's out in the world? Does it feel good?

[Gerard Carmichael]

I want more people to watch it.

[Kylie Kelce]

Perfect. That's what we're here to do.

[Gerard Carmichael]

That'd be nice. It'd be good. I just want more people to watch it. Like, I'm really happy because I worked on it for, like, a year and a half, and this is the most I've ever worked on a set. Like, because I. In my career, I'd, like, gotten distracted. I was, like, doing other things while doing stand up. And so it was always. I had, like, a TV show or, like, something else, and this was just stand up. Like, just going on the road, going to the clubs in the city and just working, working, like, crafting. And so I'm really proud of it. And so, like, yeah, like, and it's jokes is just. It's the craziest thing I'm doing now is, like, telling jokes that you. I didn't really do that. I didn't, like, do that for my last special. Like, my last special was, like, emotional and it was, you know, but. But this one is just jokes, so I want people to watch.

[Kylie Kelce]

And it was very funny.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Thank you very much.

[Kylie Kelce]

One of my favorite parts of the special is early on, when you're talking about celebrities who claim they don't read the comments.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, yeah, I was reading everything.

[Kylie Kelce]

I believe we have the clip here.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Queen Emma, you ever, like, hear celebrities say shit like, oh, I don't really check Twitter. I don't read the comments. They are lying to you. Everyone reads every word, even the reclusive celebrities. Like, if you want to get a message to Daniel Day Lewis.

[Kylie Kelce]

All you.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Gotta do is tweet, hey, Daniel Day Lewis. Fuck you. He's gonna read that shit. I know he's like, making shoes somewhere.

[Kylie Kelce]

Minding his own message.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, Just like, he's like, in Ireland, like, cobbling some shoes and, like, and is scrolling.

[Kylie Kelce]

I mean, so I'm. I'm on record as saying that I don't really read the comments.

[Gerard Carmichael]

You don't read the comments?

[Kylie Kelce]

No, but there's a couple things that work here. I'm not a celebrity, so it doesn't apply to me.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

Second, I read some of the comments, but it's only when I find the time to read the comments. Mine is a time. Mine.

[Gerard Carmichael]

You're actually too busy to. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

I can't, like, lock in and also another reason alive.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, yeah. Distract me from the comments. Like, I just need. I need to look at you. So I stop reading about me. So I don't read anymore because my feelings have been hurting.

[Kylie Kelce]

Gotcha.

[Gerard Carmichael]

So much that I cannot read anymore.

[Kylie Kelce]

Sure. So when's the last time?

[Gerard Carmichael]

It's been like a year. It's been like a year and some change since I searched my name. I had the. The reality show come out. I made a reality show?

[Kylie Kelce]

Yes.

[Gerard Carmichael]

And then I was like, reading comments all day and, like, just looking at, like, comments. Tick tock. You know, like, that's part of the.

[Kylie Kelce]

Problem is there's so many places just.

[Gerard Carmichael]

You leave one app and go to the next app.

[Kylie Kelce]

Like, you just like, you're done on YouTube now. I'm on Tick Tock. I'm done on Tick Tock. I'm now on Instagram.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then. And then it's like 11 o' clock and I'm like, oh, I forgot to wish my mom had happy birthday. I've been doing this for 12 hours and I forgot to like, yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

Life was happening around me. Yep.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, yeah. And so just searching, searching, searching. But I haven't done that in, like a year. A year and some change.

[Kylie Kelce]

And how's that feel?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Pretty good. Pretty good. Like, it's.

[Kylie Kelce]

Are you curious?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Like, sometimes, Like. But the thing is, nobody talks shit to your face.

[Kylie Kelce]

Nope.

[Gerard Carmichael]

So I get to live in this bubble where I think just everybody likes me.

[Kylie Kelce]

Do you know I tell people that when they stop my husband and then they apologize to me. Me. It's always the same. It's the same sequence of events. They stop my husband, like, can we get a picture?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yes.

[Kylie Kelce]

Then they turn or the person with them turns to me and says, I'm so sorry for interrupting your day. I'm like, no, it's totally fine. They're like, ah, this must get really annoying. And I always say the same thing. No one walks up to him and tells him, wow, you're a real asshole.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

Everyone walks up to him, is like, you're one of the best centers ever played football.

[Gerard Carmichael]

And I'm like, thank you. Yeah. That's so sweet. Yeah. That's all. That's all you get? Yeah. People don't talk shit to your face.

[Kylie Kelce]

So, like, they should start, though. Well, I would say it.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Well, a pregnant woman. A pregnant woman would. Yeah, A pregnant woman would be like, I don't like you and I never liked you. But. But, like, people are nice in person. So, like, I get to live. I like that. I like just like walking around and having, like. Who doesn't love receiving love? So that's been nice.

[Kylie Kelce]

That's. That is such a good point. This new comedy special is your fourth one. Does every new one become your favorite or do you have a favorite?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Oh, that's a. Oh, yeah. Oh, like children. Oh, like the children. Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

Depends on the day.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, it depends on the day. Yeah. Well, every. Every new one. Every new one is, you know, like, exactly where you. Where I am.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yeah. Applicable to that time of life.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, it. You kind of. A friend of mine said that, like. Like, he makes art to catch people up with him, and I get that. Like. Like, oh, this is exactly where I am. Here. Because I almost had to put this out because, like, my last special, I was, like, in a fetal position. Like, like, sad. And so, like, people would be, like, part of the. Like, oh, good to see you. Like, I hope everything's okay. A lot of, like. Like. Like, the general, like. Like. Like, I hope you're okay.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yeah.

[Gerard Carmichael]

So now it's just like, oh, you seem happy.

[Kylie Kelce]

Good to see you out.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. Yeah. Good to see you out.

[Kylie Kelce]

I'm so glad you got out of the house.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Remember, like, last time I saw you were crying.

[Kylie Kelce]

Like I mentioned in your intro, you've hosted some huge shows. The Golden Globes and Saturday Night Live, which you were nominated for an Emmy for.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

Which were you more nervous for, or do you not get nervous?

[Gerard Carmichael]

The. It was, like, different processes, like, for both. I didn't know what I was gonna say, basically, until it was live. Like, for. For snl. I spent the week annoyed because I needed to talk about, like, it was like, the Oscar slap. It just happened, and it, like, it stole. I'm just coming out. I just come out. I got a new special. I'm like. I'm wearing a white suit with no shirt. This is about me. And then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, I guess I have to talk about, like, this thing that happened. So, like, just trying to find a way to, like, address that without, like. So I was annoyed. I was annoyed that. But I had fun doing it. Like, I had fun doing the monologue, but I was, like, annoyed all week. And kind of the same thing for the Globes that, like, I'm, like, the first black host of this thing. And you know that, like, it's like, 80 years of the show. They never had, like, a black host. They come off like this. This race scandal, and now I'm here, right? And it was just like, hey, just smiling. Make jokes about the celebrities. Like, Like, I would have wanted to do that, but I couldn't do that. Like, I knew I couldn't do that. Like, it was something, like, I had, like, a responsibility, I guess you would say, to, like, address that. And so, like, that was. That was kind of stressful for me because I was, like. I was put in this, like, really impossible. I did it to myself. I didn't have to say yes, but, like, I found myself in this, like, really impossible position, like, where I was like, oh, I have to, like, make a monologue that explains my reason for being here. And, like, not only not just to, like, put them in their place, but also, like, to try and Articulate my excitement for these types of nights and, like, the evening. I do think that art should be celebrated. I do think this is a good thing, and I do. So I was in a really tough position. So, like, those are kind of like mirror, like, kind of like, wore white and wore black and one. So it's kind of like angel, devil, mirrors of monologues. But. But both. I got a little nervous, you know, just at, like, getting the words right. Like, what am I going to say? Like, yeah, I was a little nervous for both of those.

[Kylie Kelce]

Maybe I'll do it again.

[Gerard Carmichael]

No. Well, the Golden Globes would never have me back. I'm telling you. They would never. They would never let me do it again, which in some ways is kind of an honor, I guess. I'm like, they would never.

[Kylie Kelce]

Okay. But if you had to host.

[Gerard Carmichael]

The headlines were just like. They're like. I was, like, making people cry.

[Kylie Kelce]

You went full pregnant lady.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went full pregnant woman. Honest. And, like, yeah, they would never ever. Like. I. I know that for a fact.

[Kylie Kelce]

Okay, so would you.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I knew that by the first commercial break because, like, like, like, like, I went to the dressing room, I was like, well, this is obviously. This is the last time I'll ever.

[Kylie Kelce]

Do you guys want to.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I don't even want to do it. I didn't even want to do it. I wanted to do it, though. Okay.

[Kylie Kelce]

You were like, do you want me to leave? First commercial. You guys want me to leave?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Actually, like, there. There are certain producers that would have been, like, really happy if I just, like.

[Kylie Kelce]

If I just, like, just rolled out.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. Yeah. It was so strange. I walked there. I was staying at a hotel around the corner. Like, they asked for the monologue. Like, NBC Legal was asking for the monologue. I wouldn't give it to them. Like, I refused to give the monologue because I didn't know the monologue. So I didn't know. They told me I had three minutes. I took seven. But it was. I felt like I needed to say it. I had, like, things to get off my chest. I was like, I need to say this.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yep.

[Gerard Carmichael]

And then I walk back alone to the hotel. I didn't go to any party. I just, like. I walk from. You're like, walk.

[Kylie Kelce]

I'm done work now.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I'm going back to. Yeah, walk back to the hotel and went to sleep and flew back to New York.

[Kylie Kelce]

Okay, how about snl? Would you do SNL again?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Maybe. That was fun.

[Kylie Kelce]

Okay.

[Gerard Carmichael]

That was fun. That was fun.

[Kylie Kelce]

Let's manifest it.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. Yeah, no, that was. That was cool.

[Kylie Kelce]

Okay. So you should do SNL again.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, they have me. Yeah. Yeah, let's manifest. That'd be fun.

[Kylie Kelce]

We'll manifest.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah. They listen to you. They listen to you if you do it. I actually. Yeah, come on.

[Kylie Kelce]

Jarod wants to do it again.

[Gerard Carmichael]

You hold a lot of.

[Kylie Kelce]

I want Gerard to do it again.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

Do I hold a lot of information?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, you'll come in. Yeah, that's the case.

[Kylie Kelce]

And then I'll come. If Jarrod hosts it.

[Gerard Carmichael]

You'll come. You'll come. The fan will come.

[Kylie Kelce]

I'm inviting myself.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, no, we'll make a whole, like.

[Kylie Kelce]

Night out of it now. I'd love to talk to you a little bit more about your acting career.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Oh, no.

[Kylie Kelce]

Because as the real ones know, I'm a Transformers super fan.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Oh, and that was fun. I was talking about that the other day because, like, we were like, I. I did Transformers because it's like, Michael Bay.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yeah.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I had a meeting with Michael Bay, and he was like, you want to do it? I'm like, yeah, of course I'll do this. What else was I doing? This summer? We're shooting in. In Michigan. In. Outside of Detroit, in Birmingham, there's this hotel called the Townsend. And I was like, they made me eight cookies every night, and I was watching. Anyway. I love that experience. This is a great Italian restaurant across the street from the Townsend. I can tell you more about that than, like, the movie. Like, I'll tell you about the experience.

[Kylie Kelce]

Like, can we just. Why? Ate?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, I was eating. I was.

[Kylie Kelce]

Were they for you? All eight?

[Gerard Carmichael]

For me? Yeah. Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

I thought you had.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Like, I used to eat. I used to bake eight cookies and watch the Daily Show. That was my nightly ritual. Like. Like, Monday through Thursday, I would bake eight cookies, watch Daily show or, like, Colbert Report. And that was, like, my thing. And then, like, now I'm an adult, so I can't have eight cookies every night. I'm told by health care professionals that one should not have so many cookies.

[Kylie Kelce]

That's lame.

[Gerard Carmichael]

So I no longer have those cookies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my boyfriend wouldn't let me either, but he's keeping me alive.

[Kylie Kelce]

Okay. It. This is a conscious decision.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want the. I want them. I want them. And I have.

[Kylie Kelce]

Do you at least do it once a night? Once a week, then?

[Gerard Carmichael]

No. No. And the cookies have changed.

[Kylie Kelce]

Are we cooking?

[Gerard Carmichael]

So the cookies have changed. So I went. I grew up on Pillsbury. Then I switched Nestle Toll House. Then I did The Nestle Toho's Chocolate Lovers Chocolate Chunk. Place and bake now. Now Jacques Torres makes. He has like a cookie mix. They're giant. I'm gonna send you some Jacques Torres. I'm not even. I'm not even shitting. I'm gonna send you some Jacques Torres cookie mix. I got like four boxes in the cabinet. I should have brought you one. And I make these like large cookies. Like, just like you can only. I can only make four at a time and then. But they're the best cookies ever. I'm a chocolate chip.

[Kylie Kelce]

I love that you've beat the system.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

You are no longer doing eight cookies.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I do four large. Yeah. Yeah, I do four. And I. And I say they're for everybody, but they're like, really for me.

[Kylie Kelce]

Yeah.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I'm a chocolate chip cookie, like, connoisseur. Yeah. Yeah.

[Kylie Kelce]

All of your acting role. Of all your acting roles in TVs and movies, what was your favorite?

[Gerard Carmichael]

So, yeah, like, acting is something. I'm like, I can do it, but I'm not like. Like I was like, I was like really bad in my last role and that kind of. I was like really bad and poor things. And I'm next to like the greatest living actor. Like, like Emma is just like incredible. And I'm like, not like I was like kind of out of my depth and like just try. And I respect Yorgo so much. He's like, so like he's one of my favorite filmmakers, but just trying to find my footing in it and. And like often when I'm acting in something, it's something that I either I also wrote or like been directing or like, like that it's mine. So I'm so concerned about production that I haven't been able to just like get lost in a role to like fully like. I think if I did it now, I think it would be different like after reality show and like, like, like I have a different relationship with cameras now, so it may be better. But like, yeah, I usually have not liked it.

[Kylie Kelce]

Now the last question I have for you. I often ask parents what the best parenting advice they've ever received. But I would like to ask you, what is the best comedy advice?

[Gerard Carmichael]

Probably something like Bo has told me. You know, like the, the. The way to not be cool is to try to be cool is great advice.

[Kylie Kelce]

That's very.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Yeah, yeah. Like, like if you try to be cool, it'll be the least cool thing you've ever done.

[Kylie Kelce]

Thank you so much for joining me today. I cannot thank you enough. This was amazing.

[Gerard Carmichael]

You're so fun.

[Kylie Kelce]

Your new special is outstanding.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Thank you.

[Kylie Kelce]

It is called Don't Be Gay. It is on HBO Max Streaming now. I encourage everyone to go watch it because apparently that's the only reason why Gerard, please watch Girard's out in the Wild.

[Gerard Carmichael]

I'm out in the Wild. Like, please watch it.

[Kylie Kelce]

You should. It's hilarious. It was incredible. And thank you so much for being here.

[Gerard Carmichael]

Thanks for having me.

[Kylie Kelce]

And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Jarrod on my YouTube channel on more Shit Monday. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode follow Not Gonna Lie on all social media NGL with Kylie. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, get your official NGL [e-mail] not gonna lie is a wave original brought to you by Visible Live in the Know. Thanks to the real ones for tuning in.