Kylie on Her “Feral” College Era, Beef with Dwyane Wade & "Playing Tinder" In The Dorms | Ep. 54

Summary

Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce

Episode 54: "Kylie on Her 'Feral' College Era, Beef with Dwyane Wade & 'Playing Tinder' In The Dorms"

Date: February 12, 2026
Host: Kylie Kelce
Guests: Amber & Gab (Kylie's college best friends)

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Episode Overview

This hilarious and raw Galentine’s Day special dives deep into Kylie Kelce’s college shenanigans, her early days with Jason Kelce, chaotic bridesmaid adventures, and the legendary group chat lore that’s stitched their friendship together. With her best friends Amber and Gab joining as guests, Kylie opens up about everything from playing “Tinder” in dorm rooms to memorable wedding moments and her unexpected grudge against Dwyane Wade. Equal parts roast and love letter to girlhood, it’s a candid, unfiltered ride through friendship, nostalgia, and some very questionable college choices.

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

1. Galentine’s Day Vibes & Friendship Origins

Timestamp: 00:00–06:40

• Kylie explains Galentine’s Day (inspired by Leslie Knope of "Parks and Rec") is about celebrating girlhood and friendship the day before Valentine’s.
• Kylie’s Galentines? Her four daughters, plus Amber and Gab—her “real ones” from college and beyond.
• The trio reminisce about meeting at Cabrini College field hockey preseason and bonding over food runs to Wawa.

“We just jumped right in [the car]... very food motivated, easy to kidnap people.” —Gab (06:16)

2. “Can I Be Honest?”: College Kylie Exposed

Timestamp: 05:57–19:23

• Describing College Kylie: “Easily convinced,” “down for anything,” and (as Kylie offers) “dumbass.”
• Partying Modes: Kylie alternated between “responsible Uber” and wild, “feral” party animal during field hockey conference weekends.
  • Memorable incidents: Kylie nearly eating Wawa mac and cheese from the floor, being gifted a “handle of Grey Goose” that she convinced people to drink “at room temperature.”
• Group Tinders: The trio co-swipe on Tinder in the dorms, even riffing off each other’s lines to the same matches. The legendary swipe that led to Jason Kelce? Witnessed by at least one roommate.
• First Date Reactions: Disappointment when Jason fell asleep at the table, but growing affection as unique antics unfolded (like him sending a bear for Valentine’s).
• Viral Moments: River dancing on St. Patrick's, the infamous “Princess Kyana” jacket, throwing a shoe at Jason on a podcast, and the Cheetos at the Super Bowl.
• On popularity: Kylie downplays her coolness, but Gab insists, “You were pretty popular, I’d say.” (16:32)
• Favorite Prank: Smuggling a traffic cone all over campus, prank phone calls as “Susie Jammers,” and “acquiring” campus flags (with a nudge and a wink at campus security).

3. Bride Kylie: The Truth Comes Out

Timestamp: 27:51–38:39

• Asking Bridesmaids: Through a “box” with tangible keepsakes (mugs, photos) but, as Gab jokes, “Didn’t really have any other friends.”
• Bachelorette Party: A “bucket of wine,” nail spa day, and “low key” daytime event. Jason chauffeured them around Philly.
• Wedding Planning Style: “Solo maintenance.” Gab teases, “Is it gonna happen?... There was a lot of side texting of like, do you think she’s actually done anything?”
• Groomsmen Antics: Jason had just Travis; no matching, no fuss—bridesmaids walk down the aisle alone.
• Wedding Day: Kylie was “calm” (except for a Spanx adjustment and removing a belly button ring); most concerned with looking “natural.”
• Legendary Wedding Moment: Aunt Judy’s viral “Just shut the up. Oh, yeah. We don’t care!” during the ceremony (37:40)

4. Doom Scroll of the Week: Galentine’s Edition

Timestamp: 22:55–27:08

• TikTok Trends: Over-the-top Galentine’s charcuterie boards (that they’d never pull off), a “boob job reveal party,” and a tiny fan disappointed she didn’t have a “Kylie Kelce Golden Book.”
• Running Joke: If Kylie ever gets a boob job, only Gab and Amber will get the brutally honest first look:

  “If I did it fresh out of surgery, Burr would be like, ‘I don’t know why they’re at your neck… let’s fix that real quick.’”—Kylie & Amber (25:06)

• Childhood Manipulation: Amber pitches a field hockey kids’ book—“This feels manipulative and I like it,” Kylie laughs. (27:08)

5. Flip Cup, Truth or Flip, and Ultimate Roast

Timestamp: 42:35–56:14

• Special NGL “Truth or Flip” (Flip Cup with Olipop instead of beer): Losers must dress up in “full-on beauty pageant attire.”
• Rapid-fire questions yield:
  • Kylie responds to texts “three to six months at times.” (46:17)
  • Messiest dorm room? “I live my life in piles.” (52:59)
  • Secret obsession: Transformers, including a “voice-changing Optimus Prime mask.” (52:23)
• The girls roast and toast Kylie:

  “It’s like being friends with Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego… I’ll be scrolling on Twitter and it’s like, ‘Oh, she’s at Milan Fashion Week with Tom Cruise, then she met the Royal Family.’” —Gab (50:23)

• Kylie’s “grudge” against Dwyane Wade:
  • Accuses the NBA star of “not saying a goddamn word” when stuck in a wedding elevator with Kylie, in her dress, and the bridesmaids (32:06).

  “There is a bride and her bridesmaids in the fucking elevator with you… and then you didn’t say a word.” —Kylie

6. Reflections on Friendship & “Has Fame Changed Kylie?”

Timestamp: 49:09–54:46

• Amber and Gab agree: fame hasn’t changed Kylie—other than making her busier and tougher to get on the phone.
• “You genuinely care, like to invest time in your friends and genuinely care about what goes on in our lives, whether it’s minuscule or big.” —Amber (51:31)
• The heart of it: A lot of group chat wisdom, honest feedback (sometimes “abrasive”, often caring), and laughter through even the wildest memories.

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Notable Quotes

“We just jumped right in [the car]... very food motivated, easy to kidnap people.”
— Gab (06:16)

“You had, like, two modes: responsible Uber, or I was stopping you from eating Wawa Mac and cheese off the floor.”
— Gab (07:16)

“You were feral that [conference] weekend.”
— Gab, about College Kylie (07:51)

“We would literally play off of each other’s comments to that same [Tinder] person. And they never get it. Not once.”
— Kylie (11:21)

“He just farted.”
— Gab, recounting Kylie’s text about Jason during a date (15:01)

“Easily convinced… down for anything… dumbass.”
— Kylie, Amber & Gab, on College Kylie (06:40 and 07:03)

“There is a bride and her bridesmaids in the fucking elevator with you. You are in an enclosed space, and then you didn’t say a word.”
— Kylie, on Dwyane Wade (32:06)

“I think the assumption at the beginning was that it was all fun and games… and then, all of a sudden, I was like, ah, shoot. We’re hanging out like two, three days a week. Sometimes two days in a row…”
— Kylie, on realizing she was falling for Jason (57:40)

“It’s like being friends with Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego… I’ll be scrolling on Twitter and it’s like, ‘Oh, she’s at Milan Fashion Week with Tom Cruise, then she met the Royal Family.'”
— Gab (50:23)

“You genuinely care…whether it’s minuscule or big.”
— Amber (51:31)

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Memorable Moments

• The "Princess Kyana" meme and ongoing embarrassment.
• Kylie’s “beef” with Dwyane Wade for his elevator cold shoulder (32:06).
• Aunt Judy’s iconic wedding interruption (“Just shut the up. Oh, yeah, we don’t care!”) (37:40).
• Group chat secrets: the “bear in the woods,” Transformers obsession, and Kylie’s infamous piles.
• Flip Cup with Olipop and threats of beauty queen punishment.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Galentine’s & Group Chat Lore: 00:00–06:40
• College Kylie (“Can I Be Honest?”): 05:57–19:23
• Bride Kylie Truths & Wedding Stories: 27:51–38:39
• Doom Scroll of the Week: 22:55–27:08
• Dwyane Wade Elevator Incident: 32:06–34:14
• Truth or Flip (Flip Cup Game): 42:35–56:14
• Wrap-up & Final Roast: 57:05–59:31

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Episode Takeaways

• Kylie Kelce is as genuine, irreverent, and hilarious with her best friends as she is on social media—the group chat vibe is a vital force in her life.
• College Kylie was goofy, loyal, up for anything, and a tiny bit feral, with a love for Wawa, over-the-top themed parties, and group “Tinder games.”
• The early Jason-Kylie love story was full of awkward laughs and classic mishaps—testament to the importance of honest, long-term friendship.
• Despite the fame and viral moments, Kylie’s core friendships—and her group’s legendary ability to roast and support—keep her grounded and real.

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For anyone who hasn’t listened: This episode is fast, funny, and brimming with inside jokes, nostalgia, and the real messiness of lifelong friendship. It’s a must for anyone who craves unguarded girl talk, football-adjacent gossip, or simply believes every grown woman deserves her own Galentine’s Day.

Transcript

[A]

I'm not going to lie. I've never been more nervous for an episode. That's right. I am sweating under my armpits like you wouldn't believe. Because who knows what's going to come out of their mouths? That has never been on the Internet before. Oh, we're going to believe so much of this episode. Let's get it started. Welcome to the first ever Galentine's Day special edition of Not Going to Lie, A Wave original brought to you by CoverGirl. I'm your host. Host Kylie Kelce. The movie I absolutely have to watch with my best friends is. I don't know, I feel like we watch movies. We would sit in the living room and shoot the shit.

[B]

Yeah, because you're playing Tinder.

[A]

Yeah, we were playing Tinder. Playing Tinder. Oh, no. The best Galentine's Day activity is eating chocolate. And my Galentine's this year and every year are my four daughters, Little Lease, and the two women sitting here, my best friends, bridesmaids, former field hockey teammates. One of them was also my college roommate, who has seen a lot of shit. They even advised me on every single Tinder swipe back in the day. And now they're officially not going to lie. Amber and Gab, a k a burn Web. Thanks for joining me. Oh, no.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Queen Emma thought Galentine's Day was a perfect excuse to have you guys on and embarrass me for 60 minutes straight. Suck my ass, Emma. Suck my ass. So we have a group chat that we have had since college. I think if I scrolled back far enough, I could actually get to our college messages, which is concerning. But to be clear, you guys have been sending just like a little, like, I think Gab, I think it was you that sent a couple videos.

[C]

I've been waiting for a tell all.

[A]

Shit. Oh, Queena was really chomping at the bit to make sure that she connects with Gab after this episode. So we can get these videos on the pod. But I'm going to tell you right now, absolutely not. Real quick, for anyone who doesn't know, Galentine's Day was invented by a fictional character named Leslie Knope in one of my favorite TV shows, Parks and Rec. It's the day before Valentine's Day and it's meant to celebrate girlhood. So thank you to Amy Poehler for the inspiration. We might as well just keep thanking Amy Poehler until she comes on the show. There's that. All right, coming up on our Galentine's Day episode, we're gonna get honest about college, Kylie. Oh, no. With the laughter. So bad. It's gonna be so bad. The earliest days of my relationship with Jason. This should be fun. Oh, no. We're also gonna do a special Galentine's Day theme, Doom scroll. And talk about what I was really like as a bride. Plus, we're going to throw it back to our Cabrini Days and play an NGL version of Flip Cup. This is going to be so bad. But before we get to all that, let's start with the quick NGL announcements first. If you watched our fafo curling episode, you might have already seen this, but you guys are getting two FAFOs this month. That's right. You can watch me fall countless times down a bunny hill on a snowboard with Olympian Jamie Anderson this upcoming Tuesday, February 17th, only on YouTube. All right, now that that's covered, let's get to our real one comment of the week. On last week's episode with Travis, we talked about my favorite viral moment of his, but I said there weren't very many viral moments of my own. At least ones we can talk about. Yep. Turns out the real ones disagree. From Ruggie Bruh. My favorite Kylie viral moment is when she river danced on St. Patrick's Day.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Yeah. At the media place.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah. Was that a foreign concept to you guys? No.

[B]

I.

[A]

And when have you seen that before?

[B]

I. I like the river dance, but I prefer the Mummer strut. I like a good Kylie Mummer strut.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, we're going to have to. We can submit that. We're going to put that video in right here. There's actually a Mummer strut that you gab recorded while we are at Phillies game and we spin perfectly in sync. Some other submissions from the fans. Kylie take taking a bag of Cheetos to the face at super bowl last year. Yep. Kylie throwing a shoe at Jason during the other podcast with a shoe. The Princess Kyana jacket. Kylie's commencement speech at Cabrini. Kelsey, as your commencement speaker, is the two people who know me the best. What is your favorite viral moment of me?

[C]

Kyana. Princess Kyana. By far.

[A]

Yeah. Because it just keeps fucking coming up.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Okay, great.

[C]

I made that my phone background. I wanted that on a T shirt.

[A]

I was a little afraid while I was blow drying my hair, I was thinking to myself, are they about to show up in the T shirts?

[B]

If it fit me, I would have fit. But I knew it wasn't gonna fit.

[A]

I knew it in my heart, in my brain. I was like, oh, no, that's it. For real. One comment of the week. Next up, we're gonna do a segment called Can I Be Honest? Brought to you by every single time. We're like, yeah, tell us more. My. I start to sweat since Burn Wab have known me since we all went to Cabrini together. Against my better judgment, we're gonna get honest about college Kylie. Oh, God. Yep. And to help the real ones get all the Tea Queen Emma has prepared the questions has bad. She's nodding her head in the background. So I graduated in 2017. 2 +0 +1 +7. 10 num tells us we answer 10ish questions about college. So it feels good. Wow. This can't be good.

[B]

That's a risk.

[A]

Okay, number one. How did we all meet for the first time?

[B]

Field hobby practice. Yep.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Preseason.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Day one.

[C]

That was great. You. We became friends when. No, we had a two a day, and it was between sessions. And you commuted.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And you were like, does anyone want to get in my car and go to Wawa? And we jumped in. So very food motivated, easy to kidnap people. We just jumped right in.

[A]

It's true. Yeah. How would you describe College Kylie? In three words or less? I will say, before you guys got here, I had a guess.

[B]

Easily convinced.

[A]

That's a good one.

[B]

That's two words.

[A]

That's okay.

[B]

I don't even need three. I'm that good.

[A]

I don't even need three.

[C]

Three words is hard. You were always down for anything and would be willing to go anywhere.

[A]

Down for anything is good. Down for anything. Three words. Yeah. I thought someone was for sure gonna say dumbass.

[B]

I felt like that's, like, the translation for easily commenced, right?

[A]

Yes. The PG version. What was College Kylie like At parties?

[C]

You had, like, two modes.

[A]

So you would be. Oh, no.

[C]

Responsible Uber. Or I was stopping you from eating Wawa Mac and cheese off the floor.

[A]

Okay, to be clear, I was not gonna eat that.

[C]

I had to.

[A]

I'm 90% sure I wasn't gonna eat the Mac and cheese.

[C]

I'm 100% sure that if I didn't take it out of your hand, it was going in your mouth.

[A]

To be clear, five seconds. That was CSAC weekend. So our conference weekend was really, I feel like the only time that I went balls to the wall in college.

[C]

You were feral that weekend.

[A]

There you have it.

[C]

We got you a handle of Grey Goose, the one year.

[A]

Okay. But it tasted like water. And to be clear, I convinced quite a few people to drink that at room temperature. That was. That Was an accomplishment.

[B]

That's a skill.

[A]

Burr, you're very quiet over there about parties.

[B]

I was just there, you know, probably.

[A]

Under the stairs, crying. How did you know? How did you know I was going to start there? Burr has a habit. Let me tell you about this. Burr had a habit. If she started with wine and ended with beer, it always ended in tears.

[B]

Always tears.

[A]

No matter what.

[B]

No matter what that was. You could be so happy and you'd still be crying.

[A]

Maybe happy tears, maybe that shit was bananas. But.

[B]

Yeah, just wasn't it. Yeah, just skip it. When you're out of wine, just stop.

[A]

Like, stop what songs were blasting on a pregame playlist.

[B]

It talks about body parts. One is also a name for a cat.

[A]

All you ladies pop that.

[B]

That one definitely don't.

[A]

Just do it.

[B]

Yeah, that one.

[A]

Jason is the. Yeah, Jason. Yeah. You guys have been in the truck when that. Yeah, he thought he was funny. This is the thing. You'll know it.

[B]

And your crack. You know that one?

[A]

Yeah. Like my. Yep, there you go.

[B]

That one comes to mind.

[A]

That's a song that comes to mind when you think of me.

[B]

No, like, pre game warmup, you know.

[A]

Oh, she does love me. What's the funniest themed party that we went to? I feel like we didn't have that many themes. The funny thing is we were into Halloween, but I don't think we ever coordinated.

[C]

No, the one year we did well, we tried to.

[A]

What were we? No, what was we?

[C]

We tried to do this, and we were like, this is the year we're gonna do a theme. And then I was a Ninja Turtle. You were Buzz Lightyear.

[A]

This track's.

[C]

And what were you? A Smurf.

[B]

That feels right.

[A]

All I remember is that my Buzz Lightyear things wouldn't stay in the same place. I had on Buzz Lightyear jet pack that wouldn't stay inflated. And so for the entire night, I was people, to quote. We can't keep that. How else were you gonna get air number four? Is it true that you all used to swipe on Tinder together in the dorms? And were you there the moment Kylie swiped right on Jason?

[B]

Yes, it is true. We did play that game often. I was not there when you swiped on him. I was there after.

[C]

I feel like I was there.

[A]

I think so.

[C]

Probably.

[A]

To be fair, the apartment that I talk about, I've told this story so many times that we used sit in, quote, my friend's apartment, living room, and just swipe and everyone would be swiping together. That was Amber's living room. And since I was a commuter at the time, we would all meet up in Amber's living room of her apartment in the dorms and her roommates. And the three of us would all.

[B]

Sit there and then we'd be like, did you get this guy? Oh, yeah.

[A]

Did you guys match?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

What did you say? And we would literally play off of each other's comments to that same person. And they never get it.

[B]

Not once.

[A]

Not once.

[C]

Geniuses.

[A]

Gosh. Did you guys have a good feeling about Jason When I swiped right on.

[B]

Him, I had a feeling it would be a good story either way.

[A]

And that is why Amber is here. We had decided, my friends and I, that it was either going to be really funny if it wasn't him or. And really funny if it was him. This was the deciding factor here. And Burr was the sacrificial lamb that came with me the night of because we had to strengthen numbers. You can't go by yourself. Yeah, everybody knows that. Number five, Did Kylie talk to you guys after the first date where Jason fell asleep at the table Gab, what was the full report like the next.

[C]

Morning that he fell asleep and then it was the antics that went on at the bar. I remember you debated going out with him again.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And then you finally were like, okay, we'll see.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

That was it. Like it wasn't.

[A]

It was boring.

[C]

Cause he fell asleep.

[A]

It was. It was underwhelmed. We were a little disappointed, I think in the report back. I do remember the text the next morning from Burr when you, when you fro it up in the, in the bushes.

[B]

I was not feeling very well.

[A]

To be fair. I was the DD that night. And I have said that I had a Shirley Temple that night, that Jason tasted it, he said it was refreshing and that's what he remembers from the night. But that I think the only reason he remembers that is because it's the only non alcoholic beverage that he drank the entire night.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And while people were purchasing shots.

[B]

Because.

[A]

I was the dd, Amber was doing a twofer.

[B]

So it would have been rude to say no. Like, you can't just be like, oh.

[A]

You got this for me? No, thank you. So I slid it to BER and she took two for the team and she ended up tossing her cookies in the bushes the next morning. Yeah.

[B]

At least it was the next morning and I was already home. It wasn't like in a car. It wasn't.

[A]

No. I do appreciate that.

[B]

Yeah. Like I, you know, respectful, really.

[A]

Number six, how did Kylie first introduce you to Jason. And what had she told you about their dates up to that point?

[C]

I feel like we knew everything.

[A]

You did?

[C]

Yeah, I met Jason. We were a part of that relationship. Yeah, I met Jason at the art museum.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

When I was on a field trip.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Because I had to pick you up because your parents didn't know. And we pretended that you slept over my place, remember?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. It was my birthday.

[C]

I.

[B]

And what judgment. What was the outfit of choice on that pickup?

[C]

Evil sweatshirt. Yeah, I have a picture of that too.

[B]

But didn't you have like tall boots on too? I feel like a skirt or something.

[C]

I can see that.

[A]

Yeah. Shorts just like the. They were oversized sweatshirt and it was my birthday. Knee high booty shirts. Okay, we'll insert the picture. Dad, we're kidding. Oh no. Queen Emma wants to know if I told you about when he farted tying his ice skates.

[C]

Immediately when it happened.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah, we got the text. He just farted.

[A]

Yes, I did. Because everyone knows farts are funny. Number seven. There are rumors that Jason had spent the night in the dorms a few times. Perhaps even did a walk of shame across Cabrini campus. Can you confirm or deny?

[C]

100% confirm.

[B]

I.

[A]

She's just joking. Gab. Would. Might you remember of a time when you were in our kitchen?

[C]

No. This is seared into my mind.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

When you walked face first into sweaty Jason.

[A]

All I wanted shirtless was a snack. Shirtless sweaty Jason.

[C]

I just wanted a nighttime goldfish. A Cheez it.

[A]

Yep. Nope.

[C]

Pitch black. It's just me and you and Jason.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And it was like. What's the movie? Anger Management with Philip Seymour Hoffman. I think I say this wrong every time.

[A]

I think it's. I was saying this to Queen Emma, but when we were talking about it yesterday, I think it's. Along came Polly when that might Basketball.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And Ben Stiller's face. Just cue the clip.

[C]

100% what it felt like. And Jason's just like, oh, hey Web. And I'm like. I just went right back into my room and went to bed hungry.

[A]

Oh gosh. Yep, that happened. Number eight. This is now Queen Emma wants to know how popular is Kylie. Is she be just being self deprecating when she said she wasn't cool Isn't cool is actually what that says.

[C]

You were pretty. Everyone knew who you were. You were pretty popular, I'd say.

[A]

Don't say that just because you want to get on Queen Emma's good side. Don't say that. Was. Was I cool?

[B]

I mean I hung out with you.

[C]

So, yeah, we thought you were cool.

[A]

That brought my cool points up, obviously. Big time.

[C]

To everyone else, we probably weren't cool, but to each other, we were cool.

[A]

That's weird. See, that's fair for, you know. You know who says that?

[B]

Cool people.

[A]

Yeah. Number nine. Did you guys ever pull. I love that. Oh, no. Put this in. Did you guys ever pull any pranks?

[B]

I love a prank.

[C]

Yeah, we were phenomenal at that.

[A]

We were so good at them. At some point. I'm not saying that we stole a traffic cone, but that traffic cone ended up everywhere. It was on top of someone's car. At some point. We ended up getting it into someone's trunk without them knowing about it, and they found it, like a week later.

[C]

You were known for a good phone call here or there.

[A]

Oh, Susie Jammers.

[C]

Jammers.

[B]

I don't know about that.

[A]

You don't. You don't remember? Cue the video. Yeah, I got a video. We were.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

Perfect. We were calling people, and Amber was in the middle of her skit as Susie Jammers. You heard that, right? With the Z? I do believe Jammers was with the Z. With a Z. Yeah, naturally. And in the video, you can hear the person go, Amber. So we needed to work on our skills. I don't know how much of a prank it was, but there is photo and, I believe, video evidence of us. We'll call it acquiring some campus flags. When Gab was a senior, the college was switching from a college to a university. And in that transition, they were going to have to replace all of the flags on the light posts around campus. And so we did community service.

[C]

We assisted them.

[A]

We. Community service. And we helped get ahead with the.

[C]

Approval of public safety.

[A]

We did.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

After they were walking by laughing at us. But yeah.

[A]

Yeah, laughter is approval. Approval. That's legally. What's the most ridiculous and or embarrassing college Kylie story that you may or may not be able to share on this podcast?

[C]

Oh, you would sleep in my closet. My. What was that? My sophomore year, you refused to sleep like a normal person.

[A]

Was that the room you shared with Meg? Yeah.

[C]

You curled up in our closet with your Transformers blankie.

[A]

It was comfortable.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It was like a crib.

[B]

Meeting the pair.

[A]

Nope, can't share that either. Yeah. Oh, this is good. We literally can't use any of this. None of this is usable, so.

[C]

How about that?

[B]

That was bad.

[A]

Oh, God. All right, that's it for can I be honest about College Kylie? Brought to you by CoverGirl. I am sweating. Profusely. Thank you for asking Queen Emma. We'll be right back with Doom scroll of the Week after some brief messages from me. The real ones know there is not an episode of this podcast that goes by without me doing my mascara. So seconds before we hit record and I wouldn't have it any other way, you can get the ultimate big lash look with CoverGirl lash blast volume Mascara designed to max out every single lash. I love it so much because mascara helps me look awake. You know what I'm not. You guessed it. Awake. Because four kids. That's it. That's all you need. I love it so much I have two tubes in my purse at any given time just to make sure that I have it. The volume boosting formula adds thickness and plumpness to your lashes for up to 10 times more volume versus bare lashes that last all day. Plus the iconic spin shaped brush catches and coats even the tiniest lashes for instant clump and smudge resistant volume. Available in four different shades so you can choose how bold you want to go. Very black, black, black, brown and brown. Also available in three waterproof shades. Go to covergirl.com today if you're a real one. You know I finally caved and embraced minivan life. Yep, all thanks to our Toyota Sienna. And now that it's been almost a year, I can confidently say there's no turning back. We've taken the Sienna on so many trips, but I will say the best part has been being able to literally fit our entire six person family in this car and the ridiculous things that happen in the backseat with four tiny humans. I have told a lie that the TV only works on long drives and I'm sticking with it. They still think that that's the truth and I love that. For me, the kick sensor door might be my favorite because at any given time I have at least one child whose hand I'm holding and another child who's on my hip sometimes. Throw a dog in the mix if you're looking not only for a great car to get you from point A to point B, but also a space that you can basically fit your entire life into, I highly recommend the Toyota Sienna. You can learn [e-mail] sienna and remember, it's not the places we go, but the people we go with that matter. When life happens, doordash is always there for me. Like just the when the girls were arguing over dinner and we finally came to a conclusion and of course it was nothing in the house. Why would it be? Yeah, so we ordered out as anyone with Tiny humans following them around all day like little ducklings. Understands that example I just gave is a regular occurrence. That's right. There's plenty of other times I've had doordash. Something like when their shampoo runs out because they can't use mine, it'll get in their eyes and then that'll be an even bigger breakdown. We're just trying to cry the least amount. You know, being a person is tough enough these days, let alone a parent. That's why I use doordash. So when more ridiculous things happen. Like maybe Finn has a blowout when we're out of the house and I forgot to pack wipes. Or Ellie draws all over Wyatt's art project and then throws the markers out in the snow. Gosh, feeling I'm having PTSD now. I need more art supplies and I need them fast. Doordash is always there with some seriously clutch deliveries. When life happens, doordash is there. We all know life gets pretty crazy. Doordash just helps bring a little order to it. Now let's get to our special Galentine's Day edition of Doom scroll the Week. Doom scroll the Week is brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. First up on Doom Scroll, Tick Tock is filled with amazing Galentine's Day ideas that we're too disorganized to ever actually do. Like this one. Queen Emma. Oh, they're doing boards.

[C]

I love this.

[A]

They're doing. They're doing charcuterie boards. This is great.

[C]

We could never put in that much effort ever.

[A]

Have we ever properly celebrated Galentine's day together?

[C]

No.

[B]

No.

[A]

And what would be the perfect Galentine's Day celebration? That's the most Kylie Gabber coded food for sure. But I feel like this is too much. Too much preparation.

[B]

Like, not organized. Not organized.

[A]

Like show up, order a shit ton of food.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Sit down, house it. House it. Yeah, talk some shit. Next up, if this isn't peak girlhood, I don't know what is. Queen Emma, the clip, please. The girl with her back to the camera recently got her boobs done. Oh, and. And they're having a party where she then reveals. Really? My plan is we're gonna end up doing this in. I already know that. Yeah, you don't have to tell me that. I want to be clear. You were in whether you wanted to be in or not.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I was gonna bait you with snacks.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And then just be like, hey, have you seen these? To be clear, there is a rough plan that eventually I Will put my boobs back where they belong. Because four kids. That's all I have to say about that. How would you guys react in this situation?

[B]

Well, if they look good.

[C]

Yeah. Then we'll be honest.

[A]

Okay, let me be clear. Me having a podcast called not going to lie is. It was. It was perfectly on track from where our friendship started. Because when I need honesty, and I'm talking brutal honesty, like, people are not. Like, there might be a nice. Like. No, that's good. But you guys are the ones who receive a text. Is that correct? That is correct. Because they're going to tell it how it is. And so I would be a little worried. I'm going to wait until they settle.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Because if I did it fresh out of surgery, Burr would be like, I don't know why they're at your neck.

[C]

Bert would be like, let's just fix that real quick.

[A]

Yeah. She would be like, come over here. Let me get those down for you. You guys are in on this, though? Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, perfect. We'll make a tick.

[C]

Tock.

[B]

We can get a two for one special because we have talked about that for a while.

[A]

To be fair, in college, when we talked about this, we did say a two for one special because sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Last on doomsquirrel. Apparently I have a bonus tiny human galentine this year because this little girl appears to be my biggest fan.

[C]

Okay, why are we upset?

[A]

It's the golden book.

[C]

And you want a Kylie Kelsey book.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

But all you got was a Kelsey Kelsey Brothers. I'm sorry. Can we read it anyway? Kylie's in it.

[A]

To be fair, the mom does find the page.

[C]

Is that good enough?

[A]

Queen Emma said Kylie won't answer this. So I'll ask you, should there be a Kylie golden book?

[C]

A hundred percent.

[A]

You're an asshole.

[C]

I'll write it.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I have a good idea for a book for you. Oh, no.

[C]

Listen.

[A]

Let's hear it. You.

[B]

This is what I think. And this is. Listen, I have copyrights on this, so whoever out there steals my plan. I think that people should make sports books for, like, kids, like, young kids that their parents can read to them. Like, if I'm reading to my son, I can read, like, a baseball book or a football book. That puts it in, like, very simple terms. And you could do one for field hockey for, like, little kids. And then I could read it to my kid every single day. And then it'll just ingrain in their mind, oh, I have to play field hockey. Because that's what I go to sleep thinking about every night. And then that is their life's purpose.

[A]

This feels manipulative and I like it. Shout out to this tiny real one's mom at awkward tiff. That's a great name on TikTok. All right, that does it for Doom scroll the week brought to you by Toyota. Next up, we got honest about college Kylie earlier. Now, according to Queen Emma's rundown, we're going to get honest about bride Kylie. That's right. We're in for a can I be honest? Double feature today. And I am once again sweating. Jason and I got married in 2018. 2 plus 0 plus 1 plus 8 equals 11. 11 is way too many questions. So let's call it 7ish questions. Number one, how did Kylie ask you guys to be her bridesmaids? I actually don't remember this.

[B]

I. There was like a box.

[C]

Yeah, there was like a stuff.

[B]

I think I have a photo of it, actually.

[C]

Yeah, I still have the mug.

[B]

Little like.

[A]

There's a mug in there.

[B]

Yeah, there was something. There was something tangible.

[C]

I think you had already told us and then we didn't really.

[B]

You didn't really have any other friends.

[C]

So it didn't have many options.

[B]

Default.

[A]

Tell us everything about the bachelorette party. I love that. What is. What this question is is not what Queen Emma thinks she's going to get. Go ahead.

[B]

Yeah. Do you remember?

[C]

Yeah. We got our nails done and then.

[B]

We did the wine place.

[C]

Oh, I love that.

[B]

There was a bucket of wine.

[C]

My paint can.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I walked to Del Frisco's with that paint can.

[A]

Yes, you did.

[B]

It was low key. It was a day event. It was a low key thing.

[C]

Didn't Jason drive on to Philly?

[A]

He might have. Yeah, he did.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because we were at our house in South Philly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He drove us downtown.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It was a good time. Number three on a scale of one to Bridezilla. How was it dealing with Kylie planning a wedding?

[C]

It was like, is it gonna happen? They picked a date. But it's January. They're saying it's happening in April. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

There is a lot of side texting of like, do you think she's actually done anything that feels.

[A]

In other words, you're saying I was a great bride.

[C]

Solo maintenance.

[A]

This is my. I love this question so much. How did you guys meet the groomsmen? And by groomsmen, I mean groomsman.

[C]

The night before.

[B]

I have no recollection. Recollection of how I actually met Travis.

[A]

I do think There was a. To be clear. And we can put up a wedding photo here. I had four bridesmaids. I had my sister, my cousin Marissa. And the two of you. That was it. And Jason had Travis, and that was it. We. If it's not clear enough, we are not particularly organized individuals, and so we didn't care about matching. That was not a concern of ours. I think you guys each walked down the aisle independently.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Which Travis walked Donna down and sat her in her seat, Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then all of you guys walked on independently. Yes. Yeah. It was a good time. We were chill. What was your first impression of Travis?

[B]

I literally. I know I met him before the wedding. I don't remember when I met him, but his issue with condiments.

[A]

Like, you took beef with that.

[B]

Yeah, I definitely took beef with that. I was just like. Like, you need condiments to make food taste better.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you. You do just need it. But I don't remember when. I probably met him, like, at a game or something, like.

[A]

Oh, you might have. Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, the condiments thing. Didn't know if I could trust him after that.

[A]

I just feel like she's dead serious.

[C]

Naughty and sneaky.

[A]

Naughty and sneaky. Maybe that's where I got it. Were there any choreographed dances? No.

[C]

Oh, well, they told us we had to walk in dancing, and that's when we looked at each other, and we were like, mummer strut. And then that's when we went in.

[B]

Oh. Into the reception.

[C]

That was it, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I will say we. Our wedding, I feel, like, appropriately conveyed us as people. There was good food, There was good music. But other than that, we showed up, and that was a win ber and.

[C]

I had a blast. When we were getting ready, do you remember accidentally walking into the Miami heats breakfast when we were in nothing but robes?

[A]

Thank you so much for bringing this up. So I actually am on record with our team, our not gonna lie team, by sharing with them that I have a long standing beef with Dwyane Wade that, you guessed it, Dwyane Wade actually knows nothing about. And to be clear, I would like your. I would like you guys to weigh in on this, because I feel very strongly about this. We were going down for the wedding, right? So everyone is. I am in a wedding dress with a veil on the back of my head ever. All we have all four bridesmaids and the wedding planner Sarah, in the elevator with us. And we just so happen to get on the elevator with Dwayne Wade. And here's the Problem that I have with that. He didn't say a goddamn word, which is crazy. There is a bride and her bridesmaids in the fucking elevator with you. You are in an enclosed space, and then you didn't say a word.

[B]

He probably was, like, regretting every step he took to get on that elevator. He was probably sitting there like, why didn't I just let the door close?

[A]

That blew my mind.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Just thinking, realistically, if you guys were to get into an elevator with a bride and four brides. What's happening?

[B]

I'd be like, oh, my God.

[A]

Are you getting married? This is so exciting. Are you in love? Are you in love? You would ask. Because if you're not, I'll drive the getaway car.

[B]

Like, are you sure? I can. I can help you if you need it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I would definitely.

[A]

Like she says, as a happily married woman with her second child on the way. Hey, are you good? Do you want me to take you away from here? Far, far away.

[B]

Listen, you should always double check, right? Like, you gotta make sure.

[A]

I mean, I do feel like we all had that, like, hey, last chance. Yeah. I'll get you out of here. Like, it never happened. What do you want?

[B]

Do you want to run, or do you want to do a show? Let's do it right.

[C]

Maybe he thought you were running and was like, I can't.

[A]

Oh. Don't want to bring it up.

[C]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

We'll go with that. That's so nice of you, Gab. What was Kylie like on the wedding day? Was I calm? Anxious?

[B]

You were calm.

[C]

You were chilling?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, I got a video of you two dancing while you're eating a bag of chips. We were watching something out the window.

[B]

There's a lot of entertainment at this.

[A]

Now, and there was a lot going on out there.

[B]

Yeah, you were calm.

[A]

You were just. At some point, you did help me adjust my Spanx. Cause you got a picture of.

[B]

No. Cause your belly button ring. Yeah, I had to take it out.

[A]

Is that what you were doing?

[C]

Yeah. Huh?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There is a photo of me holding my boobs into my dress. Burr's hands completely in the dress with me. And of course, Gab was capturing it for later.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. No, it was the ring. You were very calm. I feel like the only concern was, like, looking natural, like, you didn't want to look like someone that you weren't. That was the biggest concern of the day. But you did look beautiful, so it all worked out.

[A]

Thanks, guys. I will say we. We nailed the coordination because our wedding Lacked luster, we'll call it. We did nail the coordination of the entrances for Burr's wedding.

[C]

Oh, yes.

[A]

Now, Amber, in true Amber fashion, got married on April Fool's Day. And so the entrances into her wedding. First of all, instead of her coming down the aisle first, there was a clown on a unicycle. I'm not kidding. That's not. I'm not exaggerating that. For real.

[C]

For real.

[A]

Happened. And then the entrances into the reception. What were you guys. Did you say the inflatable pigs?

[C]

No, we were the dinosaurs. The drunk people with the dinosaurs.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

But this was a surprise to you?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

You had no idea we were doing this.

[B]

Yes, I had no idea.

[A]

That was a stellar lineup. I was a gorilla, and my partner was a banana in a full gorilla suit with heels.

[C]

Chloe, there was the pigs.

[B]

Flying pigs.

[A]

Chloe was the pigs. Because you always said inflatable pigs. Yeah.

[C]

Because you always said that you would get married when pigs fly.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yes. And then for Gab's wedding, we got to give a joint toast.

[B]

Oh, that was good.

[C]

That was epic.

[B]

Yeah, we had props.

[A]

We did our props, and I still, like, we kind of nailed it. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I felt good about that.

[A]

There were handcuffs involved. It was fun.

[B]

There was a whistle.

[A]

Yeah, there was a whistle.

[C]

Oh, a safety vest.

[A]

A safety vest. Because Gab's driving is shit. It's garbage.

[B]

I literally wait. When I was just parking here, I thought, like, oh, let me make sure. Like, I give you enough room.

[A]

I was parking, and I was like.

[C]

They literally made me park last. It's not good.

[A]

Yeah. What was it like witnessing the viral moment from the wedding? Queen Emma has the clip right here. It's Aunt Judy. There is anyone in attendance who has cause to believe that this couple should not be joined in marriage. Just shut the up. Oh, yeah, we don't care. She's a legend. Shout out to Aunt Judy. The best. Kelsey. Everybody knows that my favorite part of this clip, and I don't know if you can see it in that social clip, but my favorite part is that she had mentioned doing this at the rehearsal the night before. And so all four bridesmaids, when she starts to say it, everybody looks right at the audience to be like, yeah, wait for it. It was so, like, the anticipatory, like, you guys aren't gonna believe. This was so good. What was it like witnessing that?

[B]

It was just incredible. Yeah, it was on par.

[C]

Lived up to the hype.

[A]

Number seven, what was your favorite moment from being a bridesmaid in our wedding?

[C]

I Liked the night before after the rehearsal dinner when we had to go find your marriage license.

[A]

I might have forgotten that.

[C]

It was like 11 or something. We got back from the reading terminal and you were like, I don't have these papers. Come on. And we got in your car and tore apart your house till we found them. That was fun.

[A]

I don't even remember that. Yeah.

[C]

I have the video of you in the lower Marion dog costume because it was after the Super Bowl. Yeah. For underdogs. And you're dancing with the mascot head.

[A]

On as Kylie's trying to. There was a Mac. All right, that's it for Can I be honest? Part two. We'll be back in roughly three minutes with a game you're not going to want to miss. Spoiler alert involves flip cups up. Oh, no. I had the best time last week in San Francisco ahead of the Super Bowl. And one of the highlights was most definitely our NGL and so true bingo event with Caleb Herron, brought to you, of course, by our friends at Olipop. The event was so much fun. It was very exciting to get to not only play bingo, but also to have people win. And not only win, but they won cases of Olipop and other prizes, but cases of Olipop. It was such a good time. And also Caleb, you guessed it, carried the team on his back. And who was the team? It was me because he's way funnier than I could ever be. And Olipop was the perfect partner because I love me some Olipop. Especially root beer cream soda and their new Shirley Temple flavor. I really cannot emphasize enough. Their cream soda actually tastes creamy. It's so good. And get this, real ones. You can get a free can of Olipop. Buy any two cans of Olipop in store and they'll pay you back for one. Shop at Walmart, Target, Whole Foods and thousands of other retailers near you. Sign [e-mail] NGL if you said that prioritizing nobody needs me time and getting in more workouts was one of your ins for 2026. Just know I'm right there with you no matter what it looks like. Because sometimes you have to use your kids as weights. That's right. Put your Peloton app on the tv. You don't do that. You should try. I did it last week. And you can break through the start of the year with the brand new Peloton Cross training Tread Plus. Powered by Peloton iq, it's Peloton's most elevated equipment with real time guidance and endless ways to move alone or with your favorite instructors. I love Alex. They're all so good. I only have a certain amount of time and sometimes, sometimes it's exactly 30 minutes. And that 30 minutes can be searched on the app for a class. It'll fit in there just just right. Plus Peloton IQ creates a personal workout roadmap with weekly recommended classes led by instructors who match your mood, vibe and personal Let yourself run, lift, sculpt, push and go explore the new peloton cross training tread [e-mail] April 15, 2026 does this date feel familiar? If it's your anniversary, just know mine is one day earlier. Shout out to April 14th but I also got a shout out April 15th aka this year's tax deadline. Luckily this year the days of sitting in a waiting room, handing over a pile of papers and staring across a desk for hours are over. All thanks to Intuit TurboTax. No more sending countless emails back and forth, still wondering if they even understand situation. And this year has the biggest upgrade yet. Intuit TurboTax now has in person locations nationwide. You can walk into a tech enabled Turbo Tax location near you and meet face to face with the real tax Expert. Drop off your documents in the store and see them uploaded to your Turbo Tax app instantly. Your new TurboTax expert stays back and works to get you every dollar you deserve while you get real time notifications so you can go about your day of, I don't know, making last minute Valentine's Day date plans. Come on. I believe in you. Head to turbotax.com to find a store location near you and get matched with the TurboTax expert and get real time updates in the iOS app. All right, our last segment today is a throwback to our college days as you can tell by the props we now have. That's right, real ones. Red cups means one thing. Amber Gab and I are playing a special NGL version of Flip Cups called oh no. Truth or Flip? Oh no. But since we're all technically adults now and recording this for eternity, we're gonna play this game with Olipop. Shout out to Olipop and not beer. First of all, I don't even like beer. I don't. You. It's okay.

[C]

Yeah, you do like beer.

[B]

I did. I did.

[C]

She dabbled.

[A]

I did. I dabble. But the stakes are as high as ever because in the middle of this table we have a pile of questions written by the NGL team. These questions are really for Gambar And I don't want to be left out, so I'll flip cups alongside you guys. God damn it. This is going to be great. I'm so excited. Should each person get at least one pass, we'll say one pass or the questions about you, are they about me? Okay, I think we should all get a pass just for safety. I think we should get a pass for safety.

[B]

All right, we'll get a safety pass. Okay, but we don't have to use that.

[A]

God damn it. Okay, what are the stakes? What do they win? What does the person who wins win? What does the winner win? What do you guys want? Because I'm going to lose. And so this is what would benefit the two of you.

[C]

You have to do an episode in your full on beauty pageant.

[A]

You're a dickhead attire. You're a fucking dickhead.

[C]

Tiara and sash.

[A]

I don't even think I have it.

[C]

I trust Queen Emma to find you a new outfit. Or you could go to like one of the times we modeled and pull out one of those outfits.

[A]

Stop talking. Oh, my gosh. I knew this is gonna be a problem.

[C]

Before there was Kyana, there was Kylie and Center City Macy's.

[A]

Oh, my God, I forgot about that.

[C]

With the me, you and the ball girl.

[A]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I don't think there's photo evidence.

[C]

Yeah, there is. I'll send it to mother. Yeah, we're gonna be besties.

[A]

Oh, God. My. My world is crashing. Everything falling apart. Okay. All right, here we go. Okay.

[B]

It's Down, Up, Down.

[A]

I thought it was Cheers. Down, up. Cut this.

[C]

Can't wait to see the blooper reel. Down, up, down.

[B]

Does Kylie have any nicknames the world does not know about?

[A]

Not me. Waiting desperately to see if they remember. Oh, no. I don't know if this is a nickname, silly, that we were just talking about.

[B]

I don't know if this was a nickname or like this was like self proclaimed.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

What the.

[A]

What is this?

[B]

You?

[C]

Oh, that was self proclaimed.

[A]

Amber Marshall. Buongiorno.

[B]

They're gonna have to cut that. I think.

[A]

That'S a pass. That is a pass. Fuck you. And that's a pass. Here we go. Oh, wow. Wow. What was nickname? It's about to get ruthless up in here.

[C]

All right, Down.

[A]

I win. Are they gonna answer this? Yeah. How long on average does it take Kylie to respond to texts?

[B]

Oh, my Lord.

[C]

Three to six months at times. Well, after.

[B]

How many follow up ups?

[A]

Yeah, that's a good question and also.

[C]

Depends on the time. Like, we can get you sometimes when the kids go to sleep.

[B]

You got to be strategic.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. When I'm rolling, we're in.

[C]

Yeah. If it's like, emergency call.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Thank you. Also, seven to ten business days. Okay. Okay.

[C]

A lot more questions.

[B]

A lot of bubbles.

[C]

Where he's gonna have to switch to water.

[A]

Nailed it.

[B]

Dang it.

[A]

She didn't even mind. Got there. Okay, we can't even answer that. Nope. Pretty sure we can't answer this funniest thing that happened at Jason and Kylie's wedding. Let's just. Let's just run with it, and then we'll bleep all of it. Great.

[B]

Funniest.

[A]

Funniest thing that happened at Jason and Kylie and Jason's wedding. Where does your brain go? Because that. It. I feel like we're in the same place. Why are you biting your lips?

[C]

Just thinking.

[B]

Okay. I feel like the dance floor specifically.

[A]

Say it. There was who almost showed her. Also funny. When I almost had to. We won't tell you who. But when I almost had to punch.

[B]

Yeah, I forgot about that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not good.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

What?

[C]

NGL guest. Are you the most shocked? Agreed to sit down with Kylie. I feel like personal attack.

[A]

Emma.

[C]

Not surprised they agree to talk to you. But I think it's. As your friend who's known you since before the podcast, it's very weird to see you interviewing certain people that we're fans of.

[A]

Okay. Tell me who.

[C]

Oh, I freaked out over. Well, Ilona Mar. Big fan of her. Michelle Obama.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

What the fuck?

[B]

Oh, yeah. That was shocking.

[C]

Yeah. The fuck are you doing? Like Avril Lavigne, Demi Lovato.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

All them. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But you're great.

[A]

That's good.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

But you're great. She'll tell me later how I'm not. We're just gonna make her flow away with these bubbles.

[B]

God's saying humble Kylie. Is that right? Yeah. We have to do that.

[A]

That's why I love you. What, if anything has changed. Has changed about Kylie since she became. Emma wrote LOL on this, so I just want to be clear. It says lol. A total celeb. This was not my words. I would not call myself that. I wouldn't even call myself a Z Lister.

[B]

I'm good.

[A]

What is the answer to the question.

[B]

What about you has changed?

[C]

Nothing. If anything, I'd say nothing.

[B]

I think you're like, accessibility. Just. You're busier.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And I have to be more careful. Just like, showing up at your house.

[A]

Like, you think security is going to take you out.

[B]

Well, sometimes. Like, remember when Wyatt was like, there's somebody at the window. And you're like, don't make eye contact. She's no, I think it's hamper.

[A]

And you were like, that's true. Our kids. Our kids are trained now. Like, when someone knocks on the door, they all do what we were trained to do when we were growing up, which is sling down. Sling down. I would like the record to show that Gab said nothing off the accessibility.

[C]

It's like being friends with where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? Or remember that game.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Because I'll be scrolling on Twitter and it's like, oh, she's in the era tourist tent with Tom Cruise, who she met the Royal family. It's just like, okay.

[A]

I do love those texts when it's typically like, hey, Kai, anything you want to tell us? I'm like, I don't know. Not today. You're like, where the are you?

[C]

And I'm like, milan Fashion Week. All right.

[A]

Oh, I forgot what we were doing here. I'm crushing it right now. I would like that to be known. Oh, the bottom of this says it's getting sincere in here.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

What makes Kylie such a great friend? I'm not. I don't even answer a des. That can be the answer. You can say what she said.

[B]

I think it's that you genuinely care.

[C]

Like.

[B]

Like to invest time in your friends and, like, genuinely care about, like, what does go on in our lives, whether it's, like, minuscule or big.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like just a normal, normal friend. Yeah.

[C]

You're just always someone that you can go to and talk to. And, you know, no matter what it is, there's no judgment, anything like that. And there's a sincere, sometimes abrasive response.

[A]

Gab likes to use that word against me because I've been called abrasive once or twice in my life. Do we just rapid fire some of these questions now? Love it. Rapid fire.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

What is something maybe only Kylie's close friends know about her?

[C]

Have you talked about your Transformers obsession?

[A]

Nope. Thank you for bringing that up.

[C]

You had the Optimus prime voice changing mask. Yep.

[B]

And that was the only tattoo you've ever wanted.

[C]

Uh huh.

[A]

It is. These are all facts.

[C]

Describe Kylie's dorm room as honestly as possible. Oh, my God.

[B]

Had, like, a disaster.

[C]

Yeah. You had a sofa bed so you and Jason could be comfortable.

[B]

Yeah. But remember, like, it was, like, messy.

[C]

It was just moving the piles of.

[B]

Yes. Crap.

[A]

I live my life in piles yes. Yeah, I do. I. I mean, look at my house now. I live my life in piles.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

To be fair, my ADHD allows me to compartmentalize and decide which pile is. Is it's in and how far down it is. And I've been that way my whole life, so.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Not wavering on that one.

[B]

That tracks. Memory from college.

[A]

You won't let each other live down. I do think there's something special about. We could recall, I would say, the vast majority of the crazy that happened in college. And by crazy, I just mean, like, the everyday we were doing in college. And I know. I don't think it's any crazier or less crazy than other college experiences. We could very easily be, like, fairly even for just, like. Like, either ridiculous stories or things. We're like, hey, maybe let's. Let's not tell our kids about them. And there's, like, Gab said, no judgment whatsoever.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, we'll tell the girls later on.

[A]

Yeah, that's fine. I'll probably tell them, too.

[C]

What is something you're shocked Kylie actually said on this podcast?

[A]

Ooh, they wouldn't know. They don't watch the podcast.

[C]

I watch, but I'm not shocked by anything that you've said.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Because you're always a little unfiltered.

[A]

A little. That was very nice. You said a little. Yeah. Wow.

[C]

Do you watch?

[B]

Yeah. But I. I wouldn't say shocked that you actually said. I would say maybe sometimes I'm shocked with things that you don't say. Like, I'll be shocked. Like, you took a gentle approach on that one.

[A]

Because I've said what I needed to say in the group chat. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And sometimes it's weird when you tell a story. Like the one story. Remember when Jason was on snl?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I don't know. I think you told it on the podcast, but you were, like, telling the story about that time that happened. I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember those texts.

[A]

Yeah, I was murdered.

[C]

Did you honestly think Jason was the one when they first started dating?

[B]

Did I think that about him? No, probably not.

[C]

Not right away.

[B]

He fell asleep on the table.

[A]

Oh, okay. So not after the first. Not after the first time meeting him.

[B]

Right. I think after the bear incident, I was like, all right, there's a chance.

[A]

So Jason is still in my phone as grizzly. For those who don't know legitimately, his contact in my phone. We can pull this up. Here we go. No, don't take his phone number, though. My Husband's in my phone is grizzly. Because we. Amber and I had a radio show at school that we called him the bear in the woods, which I'm still not sure how we ended up with.

[C]

That because he looked like one.

[A]

I don't know. But in the woods, washer else would a bear be? It feels a little redundant, right? No. Squirrel. Squirrel and tree was Maddie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What was ours?

[B]

Turn up Tuesday.

[A]

It was turn up Tuesday. Gosh. Yeah. What a time.

[B]

The time to be alive.

[A]

That's when you thought.

[B]

No, I was saying she's talking about a different time. Did Valentine's Day bear. And he sent it to your house.

[A]

Oh, talk about a full panic.

[C]

That was fun.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Cause your mom got it and just put it in your room.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And didn't say anything.

[A]

Didn't say a word.

[B]

And then you text us and you were like, omg. And we were like, yes. No, she definitely saw that and definitely read it. And now she knows.

[A]

And Lisa's smart enough. She actually searched the phone number. So she was like, what are you doing talking to someone in Ohio?

[C]

Mm. So they didn't know, though, for like, two more months.

[A]

I know we did a good job.

[B]

It was a while, but I feel like that was, like, a bold move. Like, I was like, okay, like, you know, maybe he's here for. He's here for it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So maybe after that I was like, all right.

[A]

Yeah. I think the assumption at the beginning was that it was all fun and games.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

And by that, I mean we were just having fun.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then.

[B]

Then all of a sudden.

[A]

All of a sudden I was like, ah, shoot. We're hanging out like two, three days a week. Sometimes two days in a row.

[B]

Yeah, once you hit that. In a row.

[A]

Yeah, in a row was the bit that was like the threshold where I was like, ah, shoot.

[C]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

Yep. Well, there's that. All right. I think we got through all the questions we could. That's a wrap on Truth or Flip. And that's a wrap on our Galentine's Day special. Yay. Thank you. Thank you to Amber and Gab for joining. I mean, I feel like you guys are going to have approximately five minutes of usable footage from this because we had a little bit of roasty toasty time reminder. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode from Milan at the Winter Olympics. I can't to wait. Wait for you guys to find out who our special guest will be. And remember, this Tuesday is FAFO Snowboarding. Make sure to tune in right on NGL YouTube channel. Listen and subscribe to not gonna Lie. Wherever you get your podcast, follow the show on all social media at NGL with Kylie. Not gonna Lie is a wave original brought to you by CoverGirl. Thanks again to the real ones for tuning in. You posted the van?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

When your friends naked onto the Cabrini shuttle. Jesus Christ.

[C]

With her leaving Jason.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

That was the outfit.

[A]

That one's for.

[C]

Remember what I mean?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

That was straight out of Compton.

[A]

Yeah, that's straight out of.

[B]

Wait.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Fucking asshole.