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Kylie on Marrying Into Fandom, Pop Culture Crash Course & Postpartum Lies with Amanda Hirsch | Ep. 7
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Soccer, Football, the beautiful game, whatever you call it, it is more than just a sport.
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On it's called Soccer. We bring you the stories and characters that shape the game and the debates that keep the fans talking.
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Do you think Real Madrid have made a mistake buying Mbappe?
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I think that they may have made a mistake in some ways.
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Is there further to go in the city collapse?
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Defenders are playing poorly, the goalkeepers playing poorly, the wide players are not good enough.
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From the EPL to the mls, we've got you covered with analysis, special guests and build up to the greatest show on air, the World cup in 2026.
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Now the star of the US Men's National Team will be the manager.
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If he did get to the quarterfinals, that would be an unbelievable achievement with the current group of players that he's got in the current state.
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This is your home for football in the U.S. this is. It's called Soccer.
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Gary Neville could play alongside Vilja van Dijk for 10 minutes for Liverpool. This is going to go viral. This episode not gonna Lie.
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Kylie Kelsey
That Eagles game shaved years off of my life. I have at least four new gray hairs. At least. Let's get into this podcast. Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original brought to you by Duncan. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, daughter of Big Ed and Lil Lease, future minivan driver and the new owner of a butter pecan friendship bracelet that I got last week at the Late Show. I know it's Duncan colors too. Gosh, you guys get me. As always, make sure you follow us on Social at NGL with Kylie and subscribe to the Not Gonna Lie YouTube channel. Coming up on today's episode. The NFL playoffs are an emotional time for fans. But today I want to help out all the relatively sane partners of fans who simply married into the madness with some tips on how to be a good sports spouse. After that, I'm so excited to be joined by everyone's favorite pop culture queen and the woman behind the not skinny but not fat empire, Amanda Hirsch, another person I have no business speaking to. But before we get to any of that, I'd like to start things off with. Can I be honest? With only a couple months left to go, I'm in the final stretch here with baby number four. So I figured I'd get honest about preparing for my fourth baby versus my first. This time around, I've done nearly nothing. We are about 10 weeks out from meeting this child, if all goes to plan. And I have ordered a new baby seat. The baby seats that sit on the floor, those sort of sling style seats. I ordered a new one that has a wide base and is about the height of a high chair. The reason I did that was because I have a slight concern that her three older sisters may run past and clothesline her. And in that situation, it is very much a springy effect. I don't want to know what the end of that looks like. I'm not going to lie. I know a lot of people do a lot to prepare for having a child, including educational avenues. So reading books, taking birth classes. I didn't do any of it. Not even for Wyatt. The books that people read. Good on you. It's not me and I didn't do it. And I don't plan on doing it now because that seems silly. We are no closer to choosing a baby name. We have had absolutely no progress whatsoever. I have seen a number of people dming me telling me baby name suggestions. What I will say in response to that is when you suggest a baby name, think of the nicknames that would then go along with that name. Because I know a lot of great Gary's, but I cannot name my daughter Garrett knowing that her name, her nickname would be Gary. You see what I'm saying? Also merit. We have received a lot. I am. I like Christmas, but I don't need to feel merry, you know? Can I be really honest before we finish? Can I be honest? There's a good chance that this child doesn't even get two T's. I know people are very invested in this, but I just feel like a curveball might be fun. And also, we've run out, I think. So just prepare yourselves. If we don't have two T's, it's okay. And she's still one of us. Now. That really does it for. Can I be honest? Moving on. There's something else going on in my life that's a close second to my growing family and that is this Philadelphia Eagles situation. That's what I'm going to call it. Don't worry. I do have the wooden spoon again, but I'm going to try my best not to knead it. So there's might be some situations where I need you to read between the lines. Shout out to the spoons. Last week. I'm not saying it worked, but you saw it. That's kind of making me want to go so early. Okay. You guys know I'm crazy as evidenced by the spoons but I realize some of you actually are normal and just married into this. And since I didn't live stream myself at the game on Sunday, thank goodness, I'm going to check out a few clips of Eagles fans to explain what I'm getting at here. Show them my people. Queen Emma Short my Where is he? It's the pacing and yelling for me and the cursing at the TV as if the person can hear you. A lot of middle fingers are necessary. It just feels good to flip a hard bird. Everybody knows that. I like when there's tears, but you can't tell whether the crying is happy or sad tears. If you're dealing with a similar level of fandom in your home, I want you to know that I'm here for you too. Here are my tips on how to be a good Sports spouse. Tip 1 Accept the fact that the team will dominate your partner's thoughts for a while, okay? This applies to pregame and post game. Okay? Pregame they're going to need to be getting mentally ready, mentally ready for anything that could possibly unfold. And then post game they're going to be watching highlights at 6am at full volume, okay? Because who doesn't want to relive that Saquon Barkley run for a touchdown with snow on the ground. God, that was beautiful. You may ask your spouse to take the dog out and suddenly hear them screaming Go Birds. At the neighbors. That's a bonding experience. And I know that you might think that that's embarrassing, but that's camaraderie between neighbors. That's going to be the neighbor that sees a package out front and snags it for you to make sure it stays safe. Okay? That's that. Go Birds Bonding. Don't be embarrassed about that, okay? It just. It's a perk. This next tip hits very close to home. Number two don't question our superstitions. We know we're being irrational, but whatever gets us that wow, that's what we're doing. Superstitions may include, but are not limited to, knocking on various items made of wood, crossing your arms or legs in any specific way, moving seats, standing in a specific spot, making sure that your drink is aligned properly on the coffee table, maybe eating the exact same things every week, or drinking the exact same things every week. A specific volume number. I know that this all sounds a little outside of the box, but you just need to be supportive. So instead of calling out our sickness, I suggest playing along or honestly taking the day off. Treat yourself to something you'd Rather be doing get out of the house. But if you're going to be in a shared space with the spouse, you need to be there and you need to be supportive, okay? And that includes superstitions. Number three, if the team loses, give your partner time to grieve. AKA the cry it out method that Queen Emma very nicely pointed out. Very similar. I would say that we probably need to live by the 24 hour rule, which is something that a lot of athletes personally live by. But in the playoffs, very different, Very different. You're going to need days, okay? Days to dwell on it, to maybe rewatch some of the clips, figure out where they went wrong, make sure that we are ready to assess the situation, address it in the off season and be back and ready for anything that you're the next season. It just very simple. We need time, okay? So just make sure that you're prepared to give us that space and if you prepare for it and you don't need it, even better. You know what I mean? But seriously, like let us grieve. Number four, do not tell us it's just a game. Foreign. It's not. I think that anyone who has a serious sports spouse will know that a win or a loss can very much dictate at the very least how the next 24 to 48 hours goes in your house. And because of that, it's not just a game. You know that this has the possibility of lifting up or tearing down our city as a whole. You don't. That's not a game, that's our lives. Come on. Like I said, be supportive. And tip number five, talk shit with us. If we're yelling at the tv, join in. This is not just a me thing. You are more than welcome, more than welcome to yell not only positive things but negative things as well. As long as you are directing them at the people who deserve them. Without fail, you can do that to the opposing team. Even if the opposing team has not done a single thing to piss off your spouse in the last, let's say three to five minutes, you can still hit him with a how about them? It will still be well received because at that point we are just hunkered down anything and everything against our opponent. Okay? So take note. Bonus. If you dare to take us to a watch party, give people fair warning. Do not take a crazy sports spouse out of the house into someone else's home and expect that the friends you're going to spend the day with have seen what they are about to see. So you should engage in A full warning. You should probably take gifts or high reward foods because they deserve a thank you for putting up with something that you agreed to when you said I do. That does it for my tips on how to be a good sports spouse. If both people in your relationship are intense fans, all I can say is good fucking luck. And go birds. I'm getting a knock on wood for this one. Probably one up here too, just in case. This week we're throwing it all the way back to 1998 with now that's what I call Dunkin. Are you ready now for an entire list of Dunkin's hottest drinks and treats, all in one powerful ad read? Now that's what I call Dunkin. Volume 1 features popular hits like as Long as yous Love Butter Pecan by the Duncan Street Boys, Baby One More Donut by Britney Sprinkles, and mmm. Bop on over to your local Dunkin location. Now you can have all the Dunkin hits you crave right here, right now. Plus, if you act now, you can score the $5 meal deal, two wake up wraps, and a medium hot or iced coffee, all for just $5. To order any of these, make sure you call the number on your screen. And when you realize that it doesn't work because it's not a real number, order on the Dunkin app or head to your local Dunkin and order in person. Today she's a pop culture expert with a massive following on Instagram, as well as on her podcast of the same iconic name. Not Skinny but not fat. She's also a red carpet correspondent, a mother of two, a wife, and one of the funniest follows out there, Amanda Hirsch. Welcome to Not Gonna Lie.
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Amanda Hirsch
Thank you. That was so nice. Thank you. Thank you for having me on, like, the number one podcast in the world. Kylie.
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Kylie Kelsey
Barely Stop it is. I started following you when the Emma Stone clip came out.
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Amanda Hirsch
Hey, nice to know. I love your pod. My what? Podcast you do. Goodbye, everyone. I quit for the day.
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Kylie Kelsey
Your reaction was so chill and yet so perfectly hype. Like, there was this underlying just like, I've made it. And also like, we can leave it. Like, just like the quick wit of like, we can go.
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Amanda Hirsch
We.
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Kylie Kelsey
I'm done here. Was outstanding. The vibe passed.
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Amanda Hirsch
I know. That was Emma Stone. Listen, when I met her, I. That I. I was working that event. It was like a v. Champagne event. And until that night, the big guest was supposed to be Margot Robbie, which is obviously a very exciting interview as well. And last minute, they. They got Emma Stone instead. And I was like, oh, my God, I love her so much. And. And who could have ever thought in my life that that would be what she would say? That she said, I love your pod. Because we didn't. Everyone is an audience, but she and I. And I genuinely thought she said pad, and I thought there was, like, a period pad on my face, because what could she be talking about? But she. She tried to be funny because she is so funny, and I didn't get it, you know, and. And it was. And it was such a moment, but I have to say, she was so sweet and fun and got it right away and, like, was in on it and just. Even after, she was just exactly what you would want Emma Stone to be. Irl. And that is kind of what happens with these, which I'm sure, you know, you. You're meeting a lot of, like, celebs and a listers and whatever, and it's like, usually, like, the bigger they are, the, like, cooler and nicer. You know what I mean? It's not like, you know, you meet, you know, in their standoffish or something.
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Kylie Kelsey
Will you hold out hope? I think when you see these people climb to the top and are so successful, and you hold out hope that to some degree, they are as awesome as you have made them out to be in your brain. And when they deliver, when you meet them, you're like, hell, yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
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Kylie Kelsey
You kind of get like. Like, you just. It.
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Amanda Hirsch
It.
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Kylie Kelsey
The reaffirm it. The fact that it reaffirms what you've already built up. You're like, this is great. This is great news. Thank you for not letting me down.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. You're amazing. A step too far, and you're like, we're gonna be best friends. Okay, maybe not that. Fine. Okay, reel it in.
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Kylie Kelsey
This feels great. I think we're. We have something here.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah, we have something here. It's happening. We're gonna be best friends.
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Kylie Kelsey
Before we go any further, I have to ask about the name not skinny but not fat.
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Amanda Hirsch
So dumb.
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Kylie Kelsey
How did you initially choose that name?
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Amanda Hirsch
So dumb. So I should be. I should be prouder?
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Kylie Kelsey
I can tell you love it now. Yes.
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Amanda Hirsch
Lo, here's the thing. When I started. Do you remember, like, 2015? 2015 was the year of, like, meme accounts. Yes. Right. So I'll name a few Fat Jewish Fuck. Jerry. My therapist says beige cardigan, like, all these. Oh, my gosh. What?
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Kylie Kelsey
What? Throwbacks.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah, I know. Am I aging myself?
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Kylie Kelsey
No, because these are all ringing a bell.
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Amanda Hirsch
So I actually started in 2015 or 16 as a meme account.
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Kylie Kelsey
Okay.
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Amanda Hirsch
So when I started and had an idea like, oh, all these funny things that people are writing, like, I love to write and. And I wanted to do that too, just for fun or even to just, like, you know, relate to other people, because I think I was, like, going through a depressed time. And, like, I loved just reading those, like, quick, funny, you know, memes they were called at the time. So I was like, you know, you know those late night bedtime thoughts. I was, like, going to bed, and I was like, I will open a meme account, like, literally. And I will call it not literally, just because my brain was wired in those names. Like, everybody had a name that was, like, catchy and, like, you know, so. And I thought it was genius that my brain came up with this a night and started the next day.
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Kylie Kelsey
Now you have gotten the opportunity on your podcast to talk to so many different celebrities and reality TV stars. I always jokingly say that I on the show specifically you would be included in this list. Now of I get to talk to people that I have no business talking to. Is there one guest that you've had that. That caught you off guard more than others in. In terms of, like, that you were shocked that you had the opportunity to speak to them?
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Amanda Hirsch
Well, Ryan Reynolds. I'll tell you why. Because he and Kristen Stewart. Oh, my God. Kristen Stewart. I was even more than Ryan Reynolds because she is so cool, right? You just see her and you're like, okay, coolest human on earth. That, like, even with Ryan, I was like, okay, he has some, like, basic millennial in him. You know, he'll say it. He is a basic millennial. So Kristen Stewart is not like. To me, I was just like, she's too. Oh. When I was pregnant. Kylie, do you ever get this when you're pregnant? You feel less cool A th percent. Okay. So in my mind, Kristen Stewart came up. Came on when I was bumping, like, I was so pregnant. And I was like, if I wasn't pregnant, I'd be, like, smoking a cigarette with her and like, be like, what drug are we doing?
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Kylie Kelsey
Meanwhile, you're, like, trying to say a whole sentence without heavy breathing.
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Amanda Hirsch
Exactly how uncool is that? And by the way, I couldn't shut up about it. So I kept telling her this while she was on podcast. I'd be like, it's uncool to be pregnant. I know. It's so uncool to be growing a human. I know. And she was just like, yeah, totally. I even told her. I was like, you're Just so cool. And really, I was like, do you watch any reality tv? No. Like, all the things, like, you could just tell she's too cool for all those things. However, I still managed to kind of find the, like, the relatable Kristen Stewart. And that's, like, the best part. Like, when people listen to the episode and we're like, we saw a side of her that we didn't see. And, you know, she's usually like this in interviews, and she was more open. I was like, that, to me, is the biggest compliment I could ever get in my life. Obviously, that she was willing to come and she came and then that people saw a different side of her and that she kind of was like, I got that little basic bitch out of her, like, a tiny bit even. There's so little. But I got some of it, you know. But that. That. Those are really cool moments, obviously. Yeah, she was. She was super cool.
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Kylie Kelsey
That actually. That leads us into our next segment perfectly. This segment is. Is titled Coach Me Up. I have said before that you are a pop culture expert, and I'm not going to lie. I am so bad at keeping up with any of that. I can't even put it into words. I do not watch, really reality tv. I don't keep up with celebrity happenings. So I'm just wondering.
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Amanda Hirsch
I'm here for you, Kylie.
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Kylie Kelsey
Well, this. This is where. This is where it goes. It. This is where I need you to coach me up. I'm hoping that you can give me a little bit of a crash course here. So I have a list of some pop culture questions.
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Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
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Kylie Kelsey
And if you could answer them for me, I feel like you might be able to put me on a. On a better track. My first question here is if I were to watch any of the Real Housewives.
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Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
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Kylie Kelsey
Which fr. Which city?
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
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Kylie Kelsey
Should it be?
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Amanda Hirsch
I would say which. This is probably unpopular. I would say New York or New Jersey. And this is why, I think for you. Yes. Because you're an east coast girl. So for me, personally, like, I like those franchises even though everyone be like, Beverly Hills, you know, whatever. But I'm from New York. I want to see what they're doing in New York. You know what I mean?
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Kylie Kelsey
Sure.
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Amanda Hirsch
And. Or New Jersey, because I'm familiar with it and it's, like, still here and they come into the city. So I feel like because you're an east coast girl, like, you would care more about that, relate more to it, feel it more, get into it more. So, yeah, I would say New York or New Jersey. To go back, though, to the OG days. Like, not start at present day.
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Kylie Kelsey
Great. What is Vanderpump Rules?
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Amanda Hirsch
Oh, my God. We have work to do.
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Kylie Kelsey
When I. So we obviously have really.
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Amanda Hirsch
We have, like.
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Kylie Kelsey
So we have a rundown, okay, here, that Queen Emma puts together, and then we go through it ahead of the show and we decide how to, like, pick and choose. When she wrote this, she said, I'm assuming you don't know what Vanderpump Rules is. And I said, you assumed right. I know that there is a, like, pretty matriarch, dark haired woman who is the.
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Amanda Hirsch
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Kylie Kelsey
Head.
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Amanda Hirsch
Right.
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Kylie Kelsey
That's all I know. That's all I got. I couldn't tell you who else is involved in the show. I couldn't tell you that woman's name. Sure.
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Amanda Hirsch
You and Jason play head to head. Who's better at pop culture stuff. Like, would he know Vanderbump rolls?
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Kylie Kelsey
I don't.
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Amanda Hirsch
Would he know more than you?
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Kylie Kelsey
I don't think so.
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Amanda Hirsch
Okay, so you're saying you might be the better one of the two of you two, which is a shame.
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Kylie Kelsey
It's so sad. That's so embarrassing.
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Amanda Hirsch
Well, Vanderpump Rules. It's in the title. That woman with the. With the hair is Lisa Vanderpump.
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Kylie Kelsey
Perfect.
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Amanda Hirsch
This actually connects with our first question. She was on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and her business was managing a restaurant called Sir. And she was like. And the producers who would follow her would be like, wait, you have drama on the Housewives? But we see that your staff is like, hot, sexy, they're all having sex or all whatever. Maybe we should do a show about them. And so she started producing that show, which then became Vanderpump Rules because she was the boss of this restaurant. All the staff were like, each other, like, doing wild shit.
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Kylie Kelsey
So it's based in a restaurant.
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Amanda Hirsch
Right. But they for are like 45 now, so they haven't been working at the restaurant. Like, there have been like 10 seasons or something. So. But I'm so glad that now, you know, I'm, like, going to take this honor with me that now you know at least, like, what it is.
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Kylie Kelsey
I will take that knowledge with me. This is so bad. If I were to start watching any reality dating show, which would you recommend? I will say I have heard a lot about Love Island. I have not seen a single episode.
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Amanda Hirsch
I wasn't thinking Love island for you. I was thinking for you. Love is blind. I feel like your love is blind.
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Kylie Kelsey
Okay. Is love is blind? When they are speaking Through a wall. Yeah, I'm assuming.
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Amanda Hirsch
And it's Netflix, so it's.
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Kylie Kelsey
And then meet up at the end in a weird little hallway. Yeah, I've seen the hallway in tick.
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Amanda Hirsch
Tock clips, so I think that's where I would start for you. I think Love island is, like, too much for you. It's. It's throwing you in. It's like 65 episodes. I'm not lying. It's literally 65, because Love island is shot like Big Brother, where it's like the cameras are just there all day. So it goes up every day. It's one a day for the whole, like, three weeks that they're there in this villa. So every day it's literally a show a day. So there are literally, like 60 episodes. So that's not for you. That's not for a beginner. No, no. Love is blind is like 10, you know.
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Kylie Kelsey
Great.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
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Kylie Kelsey
That's such a good thing to note because it's insane.
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Amanda Hirsch
It's a commitment of no other. Like, people need to, like, be with their laptops all day. It's really. It's really not for moms. Like, I. It's really hard for me when I decide to dive in. I need to, like. I'm like, fast forwarding episodes. I'm like. I need to be. Calculate. It's crazy.
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Kylie Kelsey
Yeah, that feels like way too much.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
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Kylie Kelsey
Okay.
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Amanda Hirsch
All right.
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Kylie Kelsey
I will try. Love is Blind.
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Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
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Kylie Kelsey
If. If I get there.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah, we'll see.
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Kylie Kelsey
I keep seeing Timothy Chalamet all over your stories.
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Amanda Hirsch
She's talking like a reporter on Channel 5. Like, I keep seeing this man.
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Kylie Kelsey
I. Yes, I've seen.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yes.
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Kylie Kelsey
What? What?
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Amanda Hirsch
Oh, you're not attracted? I already know you're not attracted. I.
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Kylie Kelsey
Is that what it is? Okay, so you're not.
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Amanda Hirsch
First of all, let me tell you. Just tell me. Amanda, you were right. I'm not attracted.
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Kylie Kelsey
Correct.
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Amanda Hirsch
Okay, you're not attracted seeing the man I'm married to? No. Right. I think that what's happening for you is you're seeing the hype, and you're like, okay, I'd love to watch a film. But I don't get the hype.
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Kylie Kelsey
I get it because I've never been negative.
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Amanda Hirsch
It's.
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Kylie Kelsey
There's never been. Like. I don't. That's awful. I don't get it. It's just that I don't quite understand the hype, and I felt like I was missing out on something. So that makes a lot more sense. That does it for Coach me up. So I've learned a Couple things.
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Amanda Hirsch
Okay. You did.
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Kylie Kelsey
I did. I feel better about the Timothee Chalamet situation because I felt like I was really missing something. And also, I now know that if I need to lean into a dating show, love is blind is my answer.
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Amanda Hirsch
Now. You also know that Lisa Vanderpump created Vanderpump Rules.
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Host 3
I can't.
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Kylie Kelsey
I still can't get over that it started in a restaurant, babe.
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Amanda Hirsch
When I tell you that was peak reality tv. When I tell you it was like waiters dating each other, boning each other. The best friend boning his best friend's best friend. It was like reality tv, like, that doesn't exist anymore.
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Kylie Kelsey
I will say I do think there are the closest I ever got to committing to a reality TV show. Which makes sense for your recommendation for the Real Housewives was Jersey Shore.
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Amanda Hirsch
Oh, yeah.
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Kylie Kelsey
So you watch standing show.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. I mean, that was really our times, you know, it was like everybody was watching Jersey Shore on mtv. Like, we were all watching it. It wasn't like, are you watching? We all watched it.
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Kylie Kelsey
The funny part was, is that calling it Jersey Shore is hilarious. Especially hilarious to me because I grew up going to this South Jersey Shore. Very different experience.
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Amanda Hirsch
What? How is it different?
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Kylie Kelsey
There is not. We're not. We're not gtl. There's very few clubs.
- [30:46]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [30:47]
Kylie Kelsey
It's good, clean, family fun for the most part with an aca. Like, with the good dive bars. But, like, not. We're not fist bumping and. No.
- [31:00]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. I was into pod, by the way. I don't know why. I was like, I could.
- [31:04]
Kylie Kelsey
They.
- [31:05]
Amanda Hirsch
They had some.
- [31:05]
Kylie Kelsey
You like the blow dry?
- [31:07]
Amanda Hirsch
I don't know what I liked. It's like a weird thing. I was like, I get it. I get it.
- [31:11]
Kylie Kelsey
Paul, his humor was.
- [31:13]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, maybe was funny. Maybe. See? Funny speech to me.
- [31:17]
Kylie Kelsey
I just saw a clip recently of when he walked in and the girl. I don't know which of the women were mad at him. And he was like, I'm mad at you because you were mad at me, and now I'm mad at you. So now we're all mad and, like, walks out and I'm like, this is incredible. This is. How do we not like the duck phone? I'm like, I can't.
- [31:36]
Amanda Hirsch
I want. I know. The whole, like, take us back.
- [31:40]
Kylie Kelsey
I. It was good. It was. Yeah. It felt like a warm hug.
- [31:44]
Amanda Hirsch
So you have it in you to love reality tv?
- [31:47]
Kylie Kelsey
Yes, I do. Just. I will say I did not watch any of the extended.
- [31:54]
Amanda Hirsch
Me neither. Me neither. Yeah.
- [31:56]
Kylie Kelsey
But I. The OG Jersey Shore. I love them.
- [31:59]
Amanda Hirsch
I know.
- [32:00]
Kylie Kelsey
And now for the third installment of our fictional Duncan short film saga.
- [32:06]
Narrator
Interior, Duncan, 2018. Kylie's bachelorette party. Kylie McDevitt, soon to be Kelsey, stands in the middle of her old stomping grounds for one last hurrah. She and friends are cheersing with butter pecan iced coffees. The bridesmaids all chant Speech, speech, speech.
- [32:23]
Kylie Kelsey
Well, I'm a woman of my word, ladies. I said, if he agreed to a date in this Duncan, I'd marry him. And here we are, the night before my wedding.
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Narrator
We widen out to see Duncan is decked out for the occasion. A butter pecan ice cream sculpture, a tower of munchkins, even a glazed donut fondue station.
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Kylie Kelsey
There's no place I'd rather celebrate my final single night than at this very Duncan. Two good times, great friends, and even better coffee. Cheers.
- [32:53]
Narrator
Kylie and the girls all cheers their butter pecans. Kylie's maid of honor, former teammate Beverly, suddenly gasps. She shows Kylie an email on her phone.
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Kylie Kelsey
Hi, Bev. We regret to inform you, but we can no longer host the Kelsey McDevitt wedding as we have double booked our venue.
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Narrator
Kylie drops her butter pecan on the ground in disbelief.
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Kylie Kelsey
Bev, please tell me this is one of your famous pranks.
- [33:22]
Narrator
Bev takes a big goal of butter pecan.
- [33:25]
Kylie Kelsey
The wedding is tomorrow. Where are we going to have it now?
- [33:31]
Narrator
To be continued.
- [33:32]
Kylie Kelsey
I read a quote of yours about motherhood that I absolutely love. You said, you can still be a dumb bitch and have a baby.
- [33:42]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. You could be a mom and still be a dumb bitch. Is the sentence. Yeah. And I say it every day.
- [33:49]
Kylie Kelsey
Did you say this after your first baby?
- [33:51]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [33:52]
Kylie Kelsey
I love that so much.
- [33:54]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Because it's not. Again, the three people that don't get it will be like, it's. It's more like. Because before, when I got pregnant with Noah, my first, I had just started kind of taking off and doing what I do, and I was like, very much like, oh, like, you know how you're scared, like, a baby's gonna halt your career and your passions and your everything. And I said to myself, like, you're gonna keep doing what you're doing. You're just gonna be a mom, but you're gonna keep doing the dumb. That's how I talk to myself that you do. Like, you're gonna watch reality tv, you're gonna take selfies, you're gonna. I. I even told myself, which is so weird, that I actually ended up doing that. I'd be like, you'll Breastfeed that baby. And as you're breastfeeding, you're gonna talk about what's happening today. I kept on doing my shit. Meaning, like, you don't have to be a mom. And the minute you become a mom, only care about mom things, do mom things, baby st. Have fun anymore, not care about dumb, not have your hobbies, your friends, your. You can do all that and be a mom.
- [35:04]
Kylie Kelsey
It is the most selfless thing you will have to do in your life. Like you, it is to some degree, all encompassing, right? Like at any point in the day, you do have to always be concerned about the tiny humans you're responsible for. But I think there is a misconception that it wipes out the rest of you and makes you solely mom. Whereas what we need to do is tack it onto the end of the resume and keep the rest of the shit that also defines us as who we are as people, because we're still us. Just because we made a human being or we are a mother to a tiny human doesn't mean that we are only mom.
- [35:48]
Amanda Hirsch
You said it even better than I could. And, and moreover, I think that they give you so much motivation and even more purpose in life. Nothing makes me happier than being able to do what I'm doing and come home to my baby now babies or be home with my babies and then have to run out and come back. Like, it gives me this, like, complete life. You know what I mean? That I, that I, that I love. But I want people to know that, like, if you're scared to have a baby, obviously there are a million things that go into it. And you can always do your, your, your, your little plus and minus or timeline or when is right. I, I did that too. But I think that the fear that you won't be able to succeed anymore or you won't be able to start something new or you won't be able to have any sort of a life or. It's just not what I experience. And also what I think that anybody could, could do, you know, and balance it so that you don't have to. And by the way, there are people that want to just lean into that and they end up like, you know, learning parenting courses or wanting to teach kids stuff. Great. You don't have to, is what I'm saying. You don't have to get the mom haircut. Even though I did get a bob. You don't have to. I'm growing out the hair, you know, I love it.
- [37:15]
Kylie Kelsey
One of my favorite videos of yours, speaking of breastfeeding is when you mentioned that you are the living exception to the idea that women who lose pregnancy way faster when they breastfeed.
- [37:29]
Amanda Hirsch
Mm. It'll come right off. Did you do a. Not going to lie about this. It'll come right off. It'll shed right above once you.
- [37:39]
Kylie Kelsey
I will tell you what. The only weight I lost while breastfeeding was the hair off of my head.
- [37:45]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, wow. Huh. That's it.
- [37:49]
Kylie Kelsey
Baby hairs breakage. That's what I lost.
- [37:51]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. It's not a real. I don't get it. Again, it makes sense like that you would be burning these calories or whatever scientifically is supposed to happen and for the people that it happens for fudge you. But yeah, it was not my experience with this.
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Kylie Kelsey
Actually, my biggest piece of mom advice to any mom is do not get your heart set on anything. Right from pregnancy all the way through into motherhood. Don't think that you are going to have no nausea. Don't think that you are going to be unscathed by the sciatic nerve pain. Don't think that you are going to only gain £20. Don't think that you are going to breastfeed. Don't think that you are going to have a natural birth.
- [38:41]
Amanda Hirsch
So true.
- [38:41]
Kylie Kelsey
Don't get your heart set on anything because baby is going to do what the fuck baby wants to do.
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Amanda Hirsch
I love that it's so true.
- [38:49]
Kylie Kelsey
And why stress out about something that at the end of the day is going to be okay but might not have been your first choice?
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Amanda Hirsch
It's so true. I said a very similar thing about birth plans because I from the beginning said, no, what's a birth plan? How could you plan when you don't know what the is going to happen? How? And then I. My. My explanation for that was like, imagine you plan this whole thing and then God forbid you end up needing a C section or you know, and how that disappointment.
- [39:21]
Kylie Kelsey
That's not how you want to start motherhood.
- [39:23]
Amanda Hirsch
Right?
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Kylie Kelsey
Something else I think we have in common. I saw the other day that you posted an Instagram story, your oldest saying and you trying to get him to say tucker, now. I'm hoping that I know the answer here. Is it safe to assume that you curse in front of the kids?
- [39:41]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah, but I don't think I say her.
- [39:43]
Kylie Kelsey
You know, they always pick the ones you don't use.
- [39:47]
Amanda Hirsch
And this is me lying to myself probably. But I really don't think it's from me because the. I don't say, but I really need to look up I was going to tell myself to look it up. I think what I'm assuming the right thing to do is, is not do what I did, which was laugh and like, be like no or yes. But you know what I said to another mom the other day? I was like, him cursing is like the least of my problems. You know what I mean? Like, absolutely. Like, like me and my husband even agree on it. Like, we're like that. Yeah. To other people, they're like, that's crazy. But I'm like, him saying that word that he doesn't know what it means really is not at the top of my, like, we need to, you know, take care of this with Noah. You know what I mean? But I think what we're gonna do because it is happening. I am sure, Kylie. I'm positive he's not doing it at school. So, like, I'm not worried because he's pet way more scared of his teacher, which is like, I need to think about what I'm doing wrong here. But yeah, he wouldn't do it at school because I've said to him, like, should I tell him what your, your teacher, you're saying that? And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. So he wouldn't do it at school, he's just doing it with us. And like, yes. To get a ride. Yeah.
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Kylie Kelsey
I have caught a lot of flack because I am very open about the fact that I curse in front of my kids. I firmly believe that. I don't quite understand why we have to give those words so much weight in pretending that they are like offensive to kids. And my kids know that they're grown up words and they don't use them personally. And all of the stuff.
- [41:21]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
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Kylie Kelsey
There are words that throughout their life they will hear and they won't be shocked by them because they grew up with them. But why do you think that people get so personally offended by the people suggesting that they curse in front of their kids?
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Amanda Hirsch
Well, I, I feel like, because like I've told you that I've been doing what I have been doing on top of my kids since they were born. You know what I mean? Like, I was literally breastfeeding with Noah being like. So then he went, and then he fudgeing went there and people would respond. But I actually felt like it was more like not. It's so cool. But it was like refreshing to people that I just kept on speaking normally, you know what I mean? Next to my kid. And I think the words like, again, to me, fucker isn't Crazy. Like it's. It. It's the F word, you know? But to me, like, if he was putting someone else down, I would be way more upset. You know what I mean? Like, if he was, it's. I feel like it's not. If he heard at home that we were speaking not nicely to each other and calling each other names. You know what I mean? But yes, the cursing that we do is more like a fucking this a fudgeing that which isn't great. And I'm not saying speak like that all day, but I would be. I would take it way more seriously if he was coming to kids and calling them stupid or dumb or. Or just any. Any insulting word. You know what I mean? Than. Than like the cursing that kind of is meaningless.
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Kylie Kelsey
It's in our house. Our girls will stop you if you say the word stupid. If you say hate, if you say shut up is a big one.
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Amanda Hirsch
We don't.
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Kylie Kelsey
Like. I grew up in a house where you don't say that. My sister and I could call each other lots of names and the minute one of us said shut up, my mom would be like, that's enough. And I stand by that. I think it is when you say it in a serious tone, not in the sort of like Princess Diaries, like, shut up. Like, like the. Not the joking way, very much in like the. The aggressive. I. It hurts my ears because the house that I was raised in, so shut up is big one. No one in our house says it. And recently loser has been added to the list. You are not allowed to say loser because I don't know where that came from. But it was not happening in our house.
- [43:58]
Amanda Hirsch
Blame the kid. Blame the other kid.
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Kylie Kelsey
I. It is for some reason that one hits my ears poorly too. But those are all words where our kids know, like they will say it.
- [44:10]
Amanda Hirsch
And then go, oh, but how. How did you do that? What did you do? Like, did you say that?
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Kylie Kelsey
We just. We just have talked about that. They're unkind words. So hate. I always say, like, you can say you don't like something, but hate is really. That means a lot more than not liking something. Shut up. I always just say like, it's not nice to tell someone that. Yeah, like if someone has something to say, we should let them say it. And like stupid. I There's so many other words, like be more creative. Well, I can't thank you enough for joining me today. I am so grateful. I love that you are not only leaning into what you love and what you loved pre kids, but that you've continued with your content and that you're continuing to crush it. And I thank you so much for joining us today.
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Amanda Hirsch
Thank you for having me, truly.
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Kylie Kelsey
Thank you so much again to my guest, Amanda Hirsch for joining me. As always, you'll be able to find even more exclusive clips on More Shit Monday on my YouTube channel. And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on all social media. GL with Kylie Not Gonna Lie is a Wave Original brought to you by Duncan thank you guys again for tuning in.
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