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Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce
Kylie on Worst Kid Gifts, NFL “Team Moms” & Raising Kids in Spotlight with Allison Kuch | Ep. 2
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Kylie Kelsey
70,000 people are here and Bob Dylan.
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Allison Cooch
Is the reason for it. Inspired by the true story.
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Kylie Kelsey
If anyone is going to hold your attention on stage, you have to kind of be a freak. Are you a freak?
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Allison Cooch
Hope so. And starring Timothee Chalamet as Bob Dylan. He defied everyone. Turn it down. They lie to change everything. Make some noise. BD Timothee Chalamet Edward Norton El Fanny Monica Barbaro A complete unknown only in Peter's Christmas Day pretty DAR under 1790 minute without parenting. Not gonna lie. The other night my husband called my name because our youngest daughter was wearing nothing but a pair of rain boots and she did it all by herself. That's my girl. All right, Episode two. Let's do it. Welcome to Not Gonna Lie, a wave original brought to you by Duncan. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey. Still getting used to that. I'm also a mom, an Eagles fan, and a butter pecan enthusiast. Coming up on today's episode of Not Gonna Lie. We're in the holiday season so I want to get honest about gift shopping. As a parent, specifically the presents I'm kindly asking you not buy my children. Then I'll be joined by one of my favorite content creators, Allison Cooch, to talk about the first year as a new mom creating a safe space for women in sports and protecting our kids privacy. It is a conversation I am greatly looking forward to. But first, you guys were again, way too nice about this show. It absolutely blew my mind that you guys were able to get not going to lie to the number one spot on Apple and Spotify. I'm still in disbelief about that. The way that everyone has not only been so kind in the anticipation for episode one, but then also the reactions you guys have had in the comments have been so encouraging and I really appreciate you guys having such positive feedback considering I'm still a rookie and we're working out the kinks. But as anybody knows, no matter what, people are always going to try and tear you down. I just really didn't know that the call would be coming from inside the house. Let's take a look at this tweet from aray10. Kylie is the funniest. Kelsey. There, I said it. First of all, thank you so much. But then a reply came through from Jason Kel. Funniest looking, dot, dot, dot. I tell him on a regular basis that he's not funny. I have to do that because there's so many people that laugh at his jokes and that tell him that he's hilarious. I'll take It. I can be the funniest looking. I mean, the Kelsey jeans are strong. I am a hard outlier because they all look so much alike. So I can. I can take that. Funniest looking. I will take that, and I will be okay with it. I think that sometimes he forgets that I can actually see his tweets because we were on a phone call shortly after this tweet, and I did say to him, you know that I can see what you post on Twitter. And he said, I don't know what you're talking about. And I said, oh, I'm the funniest looking. And he goes, oh, yeah, no, you're. No, you. I was. You're beautiful. So way to backpedal, dude. All right, before I bring on my guest, I want to try out a new segment I'm calling Can I Be Honest? Last week I got honest about pregnancy. This week, I'm feeling in the holiday spirit. So let's get fucking real honest about kids toys. I don't know about you guys, but I often see toys when I'm out shopping or scrolling social media, and I just think to myself, not in my house. So consider this my please don't buy this for my children guide to holiday shopping. You're going to want to send this to aunts, uncles, grandparents, friends, anyone who has asked, what can I get the kids for Christmas? What can I get the kids for the holiday? This is your opportunity to have me deliver that harsh reality because we all need to get real. And before I give you this list, please make sure to donate toys to your local charity. Here in Philly, we love Toys for Tots. I do think they're national, but please consider gifting toys while you're buying gifts for other kids. Number one, no toys that will require more than five minutes of assembly. Don't do that to people, guys. Don't bring them a toy that requires assembly. Because a kid sees a box and sees the picture of the toy, they immediately want to play with it. And you know what they're going to do the whole time you're trying to assemble it on a Christmas morning, a Hanukkah evening, even. This applies to birthdays. Let's be real. You know what that kid's going to do? They're going to stand behind you and say, are you done yet? Are you done yet? I'm going to. I'm going to take this screw and I'm going to take this piece and I'm going to try to put. I'm going to taste this One, don't do that to people.
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Kylie Kelsey
Let's.
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Allison Cooch
Let's not. If you're going to give someone that something that requires assembly, either do it yourself or consider something else. Number two, hard pass on anything covered in glitter. I am still so shocked that we have not figured out a way better than a glue base to keep glitter attached to surfaces. This is coming from a mom of three girls. Pretty much everything we get has glitter on it and it makes their heart so happy. I can't veto glitter as a whole, but I need you to get something that glitter. Glitter is sealed. I need it attached to that surface. I need it not leaving it. Number three, no volume control. Not in my house. I'm going to tell you a story. The gift giver will remain nameless because it's a little close to the family. When Wyatt was two, she got an electric drum set and it had one switch on it on and off. It had no volume control. And I tried taping over the speaker, I tried putting it on a blanket when Wyatt wanted to play with it. I could not get it to not be just assaulting everyone's ears when she was playing with the toy. And so it got retired after a week of living in our house into the bottom cabinet of our built ins. Cut to the following Christmas. That same person brought us another drum set. I have so much guilt associated with this because as the new drum set was being opened, all I could think about was the fact that the old drum set was still retired in the cabinet. Needless to say, the new drum set did have a volume control and was allowed to stay. But there's still a lot of a deep amount of guilt associated with the fact that I hid a Christmas gift from my child because I couldn't stand to listen to that damn thing for one more minute at the volume that it was playing at. I'm so sorry, Ed. Number four. Please don't gift my children. Living creatures. I don't want anything with a heartbeat. And to be clear, Queen Emma has on here that it has to be cleared first. There will be no clearing. I don't want to care for anything else. Now. We have not been gifted anything with a heartbeat yet. I fear that the time will come eventually and we will handle that appropriately by gifting that thing directly back where it came from. That being said, I truly just think that it would be a sick, twisted joke to gift. Let's be real. You're not giving it to the kid. You're giving responsibility to that parent. And I'm already proud of myself, when I can keep three children alive each day, I don't need to be working on any more pets. Specifically pets that I have not chosen to bring into my household. And lastly, number five, no toys with too many pieces. I don't know about you guys, but once the kids start playing with the toys that have a million pieces and I then have to go around and pick up all the little pieces, eventually some will end up under the couch or in the trash or honestly, sometimes in the fireplace. We don't, don't freak out. We don't use our fireplace in our living room, but sometimes they end up in the fireplace, which is like a pit of despair. Nobody actually knows what's in the fireplace because there's a gate in front of it. That being said, most likely it will end up as a not full set. And then what good is that? Okay, we. Recently the girls have been playing War with Jason, the card game. And after they play, Jason has been super careful to pack up the cards and put them out of reach of children because he knows that the minute those kids get their hands on a pack, we will no longer have 52 cards. So you gotta know what you're working with. We're not doing too many pieces. I am going to throw out the parts when I step on them. It's like a. It. You've now created a negative dynamic between the two of us. I'm holding a grudge. You're going in the trash. So not too many pieces. Specifically small ones also. And special bonus, I thought this one went without saying, but I'm going to say it anyway. No toy weapons. We've received a couple weapons at this point. I do believe if you listen to another podcast, you may have heard when Ellie got picked off in the backyard by an airplane gun by Wyatt. So they've. They've proved that they have not earned the trust required to receive weapons because they will try to take each other out. And I. I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to mediate any of that. Again, please donate to your local toy drives this year. And remember, you can always donate toys after the holiday if you receive any of those. Well, guys, we've arrived. It's officially that time in the episode where I get to talk to you about Dunkin. I gave everyone my signature order on last week's episode. Shout out to all my fellow butter pecan fans out there, by the way, and yes, say pean, because that's how it's pronounced. And I don't Think I'm alone in that. I'm pretty sure pean is a Southern thing, but this week I'm giving you my butter pean iced coffee origin story. I still remember the first time I tried it. I am a huge fan of nutty flavored coffee, hazelnut, anything in that family. But the butter pecan had the perfect level of sweetness and really, shockingly enough, that buttery quality. And then the pecan was the perfect addition to the coffee. It's really the only flavor that I will drink in my coffee and not have to have some version of creamer in there. It's just so good and can stand alone. If you want to give Dunkin's butter pecan iced coffee a try, make sure you stop by your local Dunkin today again, order in person at your local Dunkin or order ahead of time on the Dunkin app. You're welcome, everybody. Moving on, it's time now to bring on my guest, who I have no business speaking to. She's one of my favorite content creators with millions of followers across every social media platform out there. She's also a fellow NFL wife, a mom of a newly one year old daughter, and the host of Sunday Sports Club podcast and just the most relatable and funny follow, Allison Cooch.
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Kylie Kelsey
Wow.
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Allison Cooch
Welcome to Not Going to Lie.
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Kylie Kelsey
I love that intro, girl.
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Allison Cooch
We hype them up here. It's, it's going to, we're. You're going to leave here feeling hopefully lifted.
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Kylie Kelsey
I love that. Yeah, you should send that to my husband so he can wake up every day and just like.
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Allison Cooch
And announce your presence.
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Kylie Kelsey
Absolutely. To the whole.
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Allison Cooch
We can make that happen. I said it in your intro. But your daughter Scottie, which, by the way, huge fan of the name. Huge fan.
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Kylie Kelsey
I heard that you were maybe planning on naming one of your daughter Scottie.
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Allison Cooch
Yes. So I was very, very pregnant two Super Bowls ago and had we had her in Arizona, it would have been in Scottsdale, technically. So we said we'll give her the initials S.B. we were going to do Scottie Bennett. And then since she decided to be cooperative and stay in there, we reverted back to Bennett. But I do absolutely love the name Scotty. So well done on that.
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Kylie Kelsey
Yeah, thank you. I personally love it. But you know, you get mixed reviews from other people. I think maybe like the older generation when I say Scotty, they either think it's a boy or they're like, huh.
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Allison Cooch
Is it a family name? Do you get that a lot? Oh, no. Do you get that question a lot?
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Kylie Kelsey
Oh, I was like, it's Definitely not. I found it on Pinterest.
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Allison Cooch
It was like, where we find all of our baby names.
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Kylie Kelsey
Yeah, it was under, like, grandpa inspired baby names. I'm like, oh, Scotty, that's cute. But yeah, I've gotten the. Is it a family name? I've gotten. Is it short for something? I've gotten all the questions and I'm like, nope, just Scotty.
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Allison Cooch
It's just an adorable name.
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Kylie Kelsey
Well, thank you.
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Allison Cooch
And it suits her.
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Kylie Kelsey
It suits her so well. We thought of a few other names and I've tried calling her the other names and she just. Well, she doesn't respond to them, obviously, but it also just doesn't fit her personality. She's, like, sassy and spunky, so it fits really well.
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Allison Cooch
That's amazing. And how was the one year birthday? How was it?
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Kylie Kelsey
I feel like it was really sad. I mean, especially for your first. Because the year goes by so quickly and she's starting to get older and I'm like, wait, that's. It's so sad. But also it's so much fun celebrating her at a year mark because I feel like that's a huge, like, a year of being alive and then also a year of everything I've gone through. And it's just crazy that it went by so quick. And so it was fun to celebrate her. We ended up going to Disney. I don't know that she even knows everything that's going on. She's like, wait, why are we inside like this? Taking her on rides was trippy. She was just like, wait, hold on. I'm not allowed screen time, but I'm able to see all of this.
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Allison Cooch
I always say that taking your kids to Disney at a young age, it's for us. It's us. Like, their reaction, their, like, look of awe on their face, it's 100% for us.
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Kylie Kelsey
And I was like, isaac, hold the baby. I'm going on this ride that she can't go on. So it's like, let me just do the solo rider. So absolutely. It was. It was solely for me. Like, I was the one eating the Mickey ice cream. I was the one, like, buying the sweatshirts.
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Allison Cooch
She was in motherhood. You deserve, like, you survived one year of motherhood.
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Kylie Kelsey
Absolutely. I want to throw a party just for me and, like, my journey a thousand percent.
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Allison Cooch
One of the things that you've talked about is specifically, like, getting your pink back and the idea that a mother flamingo will lose its pink because it's tending completely to baby. And after a while, it will start to get its color back. Why did you, like, is that. Is that just the opportunity you've found to sort of build community with women in similar situations or. Why did you connect with that so deeply?
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Kylie Kelsey
Yeah, I didn't know anything about the whole movement of getting your pink back until I think it was three months postpartum, and my husband comes home. He has a package in his hand, and it's a sweatshirt. And on the sweatshirt, it's like, oh, I'm getting my pink back. And I was like, what. What's this about? And he was like, oh, it's like a flamingo loses its pink. And he was like, I feel like I see you down sometimes, and I think that you should, like, really dive into, like, the journey of, like, finding yourself outside of motherhood and all these things. So Isaac actually, like, helped inspire me to maybe, like, find my own identity outside of just being a mom. And I think it's just been a fun movement to attach myself to at least for, like, this current time, because what better way? Like, it's a great excuse to, like, go out and, like, be independent outside of your marriage, outside of being a mom, and find what you love doing. Like, I just. I think that, like, for a year, you're pregnant, and then for the year, you're postpartum, and finding yourself out outside of that is so healthy, not only for you, but also for your family.
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Allison Cooch
Yeah. And. And in that, like, what are some of the things that you've sort of done? I mean, one of specifically.
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Kylie Kelsey
Yeah, one of them is I'm training for a marathon. I don't like running. I don't know that I want. I think it's just that I.
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Allison Cooch
It would not. I power to you. It would not be me. I need a reason to run.
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Kylie Kelsey
I'm just, like, mid run. Like, do I actually want to do that? And, like, well, I'm getting my pink back, so it's just part of the journey.
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Allison Cooch
Yeah. I always say I'm not running unless I'm running for something or from something. So that's why field hockey worked. I was always, like, chasing a ball or a person. But, like, outside of that, I'm like, no, I'm. I'm good now. You guys, you and Isaac have chosen to not post Scotty on social media. Jason and I have shared that we have scaled back, sharing our own kids online. We've had sort of a weird limbo between the documentary because obviously they were included in that. But then also, my social media was from before. I had as many followers as I have now. So me sharing my kids before was just like a very. Like, I'm sharing it with my friends and family, but it's. It's not that anymore. So we've been really tactical. What. What went into that decision for you guys to keep Scotty's identity private.
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Kylie Kelsey
I think that there's a fine line between sharing and oversharing. And for us, we share so many parts of our life. I mean, the NFL, how I felt about my husband getting a job and losing a job and then everything in between. So when it comes to me and my experience, there's nothing really off limits. I am kind of an open book, and I think a lot of women. I'm able to help women in that way and other people, like, struggling through things. When it came to my daughter, we kind of went back and forth, and then I think we settled on the idea of, like, well, let's just not share her for a while and see how we feel about it. Initially, postpartum, I was like, this is the cutest baby ever. Like, the fact that I can't show people the cutest baby ever. Like, I'm struggling, but I think it was really healthy. And it was a good. Like, very good for us, that it was the separation of, okay, we're taking this video for us, for ourselves, for her to see later down the line. And it never felt like, oh, we're pulling out the camera. And it felt icky in a way. It always felt very like, oh, I'm just a mom recording my child. And not to say that people who share their child online are doing it only for that, but I do. I like that we kept her. We've kept her private. I did, for her first birthday, post a video of some of the memories with her face in it. And I was a little anxious to do that, But I think that I feel very comfortable. Me and my husband feel very comfortable not showing her day to day, not showing her every move, like, not using her for videos. And the fact that people have seen her face now I feel very comfortable with. And I think it got to a point where it was then like a game, like covering her with an emoji or covering her in this way. And I was like, okay, I want to keep her private, but not a secret. And I think now I've gotten to the point where I'm like, okay, if people see your face, it's okay, but I'm not going to go and make a video of Scotty's day in the life or what have you not just because it's something I'm not comfortable with. And I feel very confident when it's to keep her private.
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Allison Cooch
Now, when you guys are out in public, I would imagine that you guys get recognized all the time. First of all, you guys are appropriately so, but have a very large following, both you and your husband. But then also, you guys are both very tall. People stick out, like, sore thumbs. We run into that as well. It's very hard to, like, blend into a crowd when you're like, 5 11. You're like, yep, that's me. How. How have people reacted to seeing Scotty in person?
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Kylie Kelsey
Yeah, it's funny you mentioned the tall thing, because the tall thing matters. It does it because people notice. I mean, Isaac's a big, big dude, so. And then I'm also tall, blonde. So when we are in public, I feel like we are very noticeable, especially for, like, the height. You can see us from a mile away. And with our daughter, I feel like we've had mixed experiences.
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Allison Cooch
I will say we've had a moment with our oldest, specifically when we get back from very public situations, which we don't take them in often, just because I can't always assume that everyone is going to be respectful in a way that I want to display for our kids.
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Kylie Kelsey
Right.
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Allison Cooch
That being said, we've brought our daughter home from places, and just the other day, she was like, I'm such a big fan. Can I take a picture? And I was like, who the fuck are you talking to?
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Kylie Kelsey
Kids, they keep you humble.
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Allison Cooch
I was like, excuse me, where did you hear that? And she was like, that's what they say to dad. And I was like, okay. A couple years ago, she was three, and we were out at the beach, and she came. We came back to the house, and it was probably two or three hours later, so you could tell she was stewing on it. And she looked at my husband and goes, are you Jason Kelsey? He was like, yes. This is a pop quiz. What? Why? What's going on? And she was like, that's what they asked you at the beach. Are you Jason Kelsey? And I was like, God, you parrot. Like, it's. You don't realize how much they're soaking in every second. And so that's why now we're super tactful about not only posting them, but then also how much external interaction they're getting. And now it's very much like, we leave the house and I, like, take my parents or I take my nieces with me, and they know, like, no one's to take pictures of them. Like, it's. It's very like, like padded. Like, it's a very insulated.
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Kylie Kelsey
Absolutely.
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Allison Cooch
Experience. Which is. Is a shame because that's not how my husband and I grew up and we're really trying to navigate it, but it is. It's a strange line to tote. So I, I absolutely love the fact that you've done, like, the play on, like, just getting the side of Scotty's face and like. Let's talk about something else we have in common besides motherhood. We're both married to football players.
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Kylie Kelsey
Oh, yeah. That.
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Allison Cooch
I will preface this with my husband. We were in a very small percentage. We were unbelievably lucky. He was in Philadelphia for his entire 13 year career. But that was not. That's not your experience with the NFL.
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Kylie Kelsey
Like, oh, okay. Very different experiences.
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Allison Cooch
Cool. Thanks so much for doing that. Now, was there a city that you felt the most community with the women there? Because I have. I have again, not experienced outside of the Philadelphia Eagles organization and the women that I've come across there. But it has been like, naturally with the NFL, a revolving door of women going other places and then staying in contact with them and finding out what the community was like, the next place that they ended up.
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Kylie Kelsey
Totally.
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Allison Cooch
So what were the. Was there one city that stands out as a really strong, like, community with the women?
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Kylie Kelsey
Yeah. And it was the Los Angeles Chargers. But I have to think, was it because we were there for four years, was it because we stayed here year round? I think all those factors definitely come into play because every place I've. I've had a really good experience with other women. Definitely some teams who emphasize family more than others, but I think that just kind of comes to the territory. The Chargers had a lot to do with the family outside of just the guys. I think maybe being, like, owned by the Spanos family helped with that. There were a lot of, like, activities for the women. There was like weekly hangouts. We also lived near the beach, so like yoga on the beach. Maybe that helped with that. We also were drafted with a group of men who had girlfriends and they also got engaged and then got married along the same timeframe. So I think that had to help with that. And everybody my husband got drafted with stayed for the full four years, which is very rare.
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Allison Cooch
But it is interesting to think that when you're in sort of the same phase of life, that it lends itself to building a little bit of a stronger community because you're hitting the same phases at the same time.
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Kylie Kelsey
Right. And so whenever people ask me, oh, are there clicks when it comes to, like, an NFL team with the wives and women? I'm like, no. It's really just like, don't have kids.
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Allison Cooch
Have kids, have time. Don't have time.
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Kylie Kelsey
Exactly. It's like, hey, can we get a play date? Because I need a glass of wine and I need somebody else to drink.
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Allison Cooch
Drink it with another human being to speak. Another adult to speak to.
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Kylie Kelsey
Somebody who can, like, talk back and not yell at me. That would be great.
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Allison Cooch
We did get to a point in Philly where I had somehow become the oldest. It was. It was always like a. I was like, oh, oh, oh, shit, that is me. You're like.
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Kylie Kelsey
And so looking for somebody who's gonna play. Yeah.
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Allison Cooch
I'm like, is anyone else gonna take the lead? Anyone? Anyone? Nope. Okay. But we got to a point where we would almost so, like, stalk people on social media just to be like, do you. Have you posted with a girl? You. You just got here. Have you posted with a woman recently? If so, we'll go to her page. If her page is private, we'll ask before we follow. But otherwise, if she's public and we can see that you guys are still together, we'll just slide into your DMs and be like, hey, welcome. Because I think that there is just. They're so busy and they're trying to build their own relationships in the locker room. And if I ever went to my husband and said, hey, can you approach so and so and ask for his significant other's phone number? It would be three years before I got that.
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Kylie Kelsey
So you'd find the phone number in, like, a wad at the end of football season. In like a shoe or something.
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Allison Cooch
In a cleat at the bottom of the locker. Yes, exactly. So we really found that the best way to do it was to just be direct and say, like, hey, if you need anything, it was the same situation as you for la. Like, we're here year round. If there's anything I can be of assistance with or you need advice about, or even if it's just a restaurant recommendation, let me know. Because I do think just initiating contact, I might not be your community here.
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Kylie Kelsey
Right.
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Allison Cooch
But I can. But I can help you in to then introduce you to the other women.
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Kylie Kelsey
And that's God's work. Like, I have to say, like, on behalf of all of the girls who are. Have traveled around to different teams, people like you make the experience so much better and so much less lonely. And I know that, like, I've been reached out to via DM and I get like random chats, like, hey, I got your number from so and so. Like, hey, if you need anything. And those are the girls that I always gravitated towards because I'm like, oh, you're okay. Reaching out to a stranger and offering X, Y and Z, like, this is great, this is helpful. And I feel like even having one point of contact that you can be like, hey, is there like a good bagel place around here?
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Allison Cooch
Like, or even just how do you get to the family room? Like, you're in the stadium and you're all by yourself. And some of the stadium staff often know where it is. But I can't tell you how many people I would get like a random phone call during a game and they would be like, what section is it behind? I'll be right there. But it's just, it's having that point of contact and we really can't rely on our, It's, I mean, similarly to everything else in life, like, we as women need to be sort of that self sufficient, can't rely on our husbands. And so we, we just got to take matters into our own hands. But I, we would. I also felt like there was, there was always a drop off between like practice squad and people who were in during preseason. And so we would always try to make that contact early because at the end of the day, even if you're not on the final roster in Philadelphia, you could be going to a team that we know, someone who had been in Philly for a long time, who's there, and we can connect you then. So it was always this. I mean, there's a very large web of women in the NFL and I think the best thing that they can do, I say they now because I'm retired, but the best thing they can do now is to continue to sort of weave the web and make sure that the women feel supported and connected and can do that independently outside of their spouse or significant other.
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Kylie Kelsey
Absolutely. I think, I think so many people kind of forget that, is that these players are going through all these things and ups and downs and what have you not. But also the wives and others and family members are also going through that. So I think even when I talked about it on social media of like, oh yeah, there's a family room, there's this, there's that. And people are like, oh my God, he should just stick to football. I'm like, hold on, I'm not even talking about him. I'm talking about Me and what I need. And I'm, like, moving to a new city is never easy. And so having, like, a group of women or even having something as simple as, like, oh, hey, like, I'm going to go down to the family room for five seconds, like, and just take a break. I think that's, like, the biggest game changer. And it's surprising that some teams I've, like, filled. My husband has filled out a questionnaire at the very beginning of the season. And, like, they're like, oh, do you have a significant other? And then they'll get the numbers. And it's crazy that it, it's, they haven't figured it out yet.
- [32:35]
Allison Cooch
Crickets.
- [32:35]
Kylie Kelsey
Yeah.
- [32:37]
Allison Cooch
Like, wait, what's going on? I, I, I do think there were multiple seasons where we in, in Philly would get to November and then have a moment of, oh, shit, somebody planned a holiday party. Like, we still haven't gotten together.
- [32:57]
Kylie Kelsey
You, you hosted a Christmas party, did you not?
- [32:59]
Allison Cooch
We did, yes. I did not host it, but I co hosted it. You don't want any parties at my house. You'll be, like, tripping over toys and sliding in. Like, yogurt really gets for the best. Yeah, you don't. Unless you, like, don't mind getting your, like, pants dirty when you sit down on our couch. Like, then come on over.
- [33:20]
Kylie Kelsey
But it is crazy because I feel like every single team has, like, a team mom in a way. Not very much so. You don't even have to be a mom, but it's usually a guy who's on a contract for a few years. I would say usually o lineman, maybe sometimes quarterback, but usually O lineman. And it's one of the wives that's just like, hey, I've been here for a minute. And you just have to take. It's like, literally team mom.
- [33:47]
Allison Cooch
Yes. And, and it's, it's not always top choice. Like, I was, I'm not kidding. Every time, every year. Like, the last, I would say, two, three years of Jason's career, I would be like.
- [34:03]
Kylie Kelsey
Anybody?
- [34:04]
Allison Cooch
No one else? Anybody?
- [34:05]
Kylie Kelsey
Hand?
- [34:06]
Allison Cooch
No one. Okay, here we go. I guess I'm doing it now. And it's not because I didn't want to. I just, like, was very much like, I feel unfit for this role. Well, usually I feel like it's like.
- [34:21]
Kylie Kelsey
If you have, you have three daughters, like, you have to be a little fit.
- [34:26]
Allison Cooch
I'm still not sure how that happened.
- [34:29]
Kylie Kelsey
Literally about to have four daughters.
- [34:31]
Allison Cooch
Yeah. Still not sure how that happened. I still have moments where I'm like, I'm A team Teen mom. That's crazy. Wait, no, I'm not. I'm in my 30s. Okay, here we are.
- [34:41]
Kylie Kelsey
I was here to tell my parents I was pregnant. So I feel like a baby still for sure.
- [34:46]
Allison Cooch
I'm permanently 24 in my head. It's the age that I'm stuck at. I will always be 24. You can't talk me out of it.
- [34:51]
Kylie Kelsey
I'm right there with you. So I'm sure it's surprising when people are like, wait, you're the oldest on the team?
- [34:56]
Allison Cooch
And you're like, oh, that's what it was. Every year the rookies would come in and I'm like, oh, we're this not the same age. Never mind. We are not. We are. The girls would tell me from college.
- [35:07]
Kylie Kelsey
You're like, oh, okay.
- [35:11]
Allison Cooch
I remember those days. Yeah, it's like it really, it humbles you quick because then the new girls come in and they're I mean, 22.
- [35:20]
Kylie Kelsey
Young and have energy. They're like, girl, at halftime, I'm like, you bring it to my seat.
- [35:25]
Allison Cooch
Yes. They're like going to tailgate before the game and I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna pop a nap real quick so I can last through this. 8:00.
- [35:34]
Kylie Kelsey
My pregame is sleeping in his car right before the game.
- [35:38]
Allison Cooch
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- [37:34]
Kylie Kelsey
When I first started on social media, I worked full time as an interior designer in Los Angeles. I would commute every single day to LA while my husband played for the Chargers. I loved it. But then when he was a free agent, I understood that I might have to move somewhere and I'm not trying to commute back to LA for work. And I loved being creative in every other way. So I took all my savings, it propelled me to make an investment, and I bought an investment property in Scottsdale, Arizona. And I have this interior design background and I was like, wait, if I own Airbnbs or, you know, short term investment, or if I do a fixer upper, like, I can still make my own income, have my own identity outside of football. And, like, also, it'll help me and Isaac later in the long run so when Isaac retires, he doesn't have to get a normal job. Like, we can figure out something together. And I loved it because I got to be creative, I got to do something that I love and also got to make money outside of my husband. And so then I started my social media while I was designing my Airbnb. And of course, all these people are saying, oh, you're a gold digger with him for the money. I'm like, probably would have. He got drafted in the seventh round. Like, if it was for money, I probably would have went somewhere different. But I started talking about, like, oh, yeah, I'm a gold digger and following him and all of that, and it was crazy. I loved being like the satirical comedic person. Like, I loved it because I was like, I don't have anything to hide. I have two investment properties now and I'm making more money than my husband. But sure, okay, we can talk about that. And I got to be creative. And I found, like, my love of social media, which I've been posting on social media for a long time, but it wasn't until the TikTok era that it started going somewhere and I got to start working with cool companies like the NFL.
- [39:28]
Allison Cooch
I do love the idea of sort of if you're. If you're saying it about yourself and someone else says it, it's like, you're. You're not original. I already said that about myself.
- [39:38]
Kylie Kelsey
I already said I was a gold digger. Like, yeah, that's.
- [39:40]
Allison Cooch
I already said that. So actually irrelevant. You're like, okay, it. I was, obviously, because I think it was the whole NFL algorithm. But I loved seeing your content pop up on my for you page. And then it really was that moment where you were just like, hey, guys, I actually own property. And I'm, like, doing my own thing, where I was like, yes. Troll them harder.
- [40:11]
Kylie Kelsey
You're like, keep going.
- [40:12]
Allison Cooch
Get them.
- [40:14]
Kylie Kelsey
Like, push it harder. Keep going.
- [40:15]
Allison Cooch
Get them for all of us. Like me. You're awesome. Also a big football fan and host an incredible podcast, the Sunday Sports Club. I do think it's amazing that you've created this space to talk about sports in a way that is easily digestible and then also safe space for women, specifically, because I feel like I grew up watching football with my dad. I still, when I first started dating Jason, would sit with him and, like, teammates or him and Travis, and it would be this sort of like, well, they were a nickel. And then. And I'm like, who took. Who had. Why did they have coins? What? What? Huh. I think that that's amazing that you've created that space for women specifically, because I do think there's so many people who would love to get involved. Like, it is. It's so exhilarating to watch a really good game.
- [41:12]
Kylie Kelsey
It is. You have to understand, like, a certain level to. To really be interested in that. And I think that's where I was like, wait. I feel like a lot more women and even people who aren't interested in football would find it more interesting if they knew a little bit more about it. And because I think that's even been, like, the first few games I went to of Isaacs, I was like, I don't really give a. And then once I started really to learn about the, like, ins and outs of football and, like, how fun it can actually be, I was like, wait, I love football. I don't need my husband. Like, who cares?
- [41:44]
Allison Cooch
I will say there's still situations where I've watched so much offensive line that I still watch football from the trench. Like, I. When things happened in the secondary, I'm like, mm, I can usually guess the flag before it's like, spoken. But for the most part, like, in the trenches, I'm like, that was a halt. And I can do that before they throw the flag. I'm like, that. You better. Oh. Oh, okay. Thank you.
- [42:13]
Kylie Kelsey
Coming home and he's like, I don't have to watch film. My wife's just going to give me the play by play.
- [42:17]
Allison Cooch
Well, it got to a point where he would be like, what'd you think after a game? And I'd be like, well, honestly, that one poll, like, you missed your block, but, like, outside of that, you did great.
- [42:26]
Kylie Kelsey
Offensive linemen, like, wives are. It's crazy because y'all, like, actually know so much, whereas I feel like, defense, I'm just like, I'll watch Isaac, like, whatever. But it is so interesting.
- [42:37]
Allison Cooch
It's like, tackle him. Like, that's literally all I know about him.
- [42:41]
Kylie Kelsey
Yeah. And then when, like, the whole offensive line crumbles, I'm like, I don't know what just happened. And there's always like an offensive lineman girl being like, oh, it's him. And then, yeah, very much.
- [42:52]
Allison Cooch
I feel like you could very much. After watching that much offensive line, I can be like, there it is. Yep. I know. I know who that was. And if it was Jason, I'd be like, hey, that one was you. Yeah.
- [43:02]
Kylie Kelsey
Like, I actually will. Yeah, that was my husband. Don't worry, I'll get him for later.
- [43:06]
Allison Cooch
That's amazing. Well, Allison, Allie, thank you so much again for joining me. I really. This was outstanding. I'm so happy that we finally got to connect. And like I said, I'm just a huge fan of what you're doing and the conversations you're having about postpartum and the safe space you're making for women in sports. I really, I can't thank you enough for coming on to talk to me today.
- [43:31]
Kylie Kelsey
Yeah, we'll have to get you on Sunday Sports club.
- [43:34]
Allison Cooch
Happily, whenever you want.
- [43:36]
Kylie Kelsey
I love it. Thank you for having me on.
- [43:38]
Allison Cooch
In the spirit of complete transparency around here here, I talked to Allison for a longer conversation. We really just couldn't be stopped. You'll be able to find some exclusive never before seen clips on Monday right on our YouTube channel. I also loved all of your pregnancy craving submissions. Keep them coming. I recently saw one that was freshly baked brownies with potato chips crumbled on top. I'm trying it. Also, I'd love to see what questions you guys have for me. A little ask me anything. So please ask away via TikTok and tag at NGL with Kylie. I will tell you a secret. If you tag me during the hours of, I would say 9pm to 10:30, that's Eastern Standard Time, there's a decent chance that I see it because it'll pop up in my top banner. So just a little hint and that does it for episode two. Thank you again to our guest, Ally Cooch. Watch and subscribe on YouTube to the Not Gonna Lie channel where I'll also be dropping never before seen clips. We'll be back with a brand new episode next Thursday. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on all social media. GL with Kylie Not Gonna Lie is a wave original brought to you by Dunkin. Thanks again for tuning in SA.