A (1:34)

Yay.

B (1:35)

Like, I'm in pain.

A (1:36)

Yes. They don't understand it. They don't grasp it, because they don't have to go through anything similar at all.

B (1:40)

No, I was, like, in the car, like, gripping the window, like, looking out the window, like, blaring, Adele. Like, help me.

A (1:47)

I know. You think they would do something that we could get rid of it and not have, like, any, like, natural effects on us. You know what I mean?

B (1:52)

Like, just like, what am I supposed to do? Take a perk? 30 before not Loveline? No.

A (1:56)

Yeah. Yeah. No. I mean, maybe. I guess whatever works for you.

B (2:01)

I'm like, what's up, mother? No, I can't and it's just like, yeah, we just. And then obviously we've talked about this before, but, like, just like, then I imagine, like, nurses and firefighters and people who are literally, the world is in their hands and their women are just in this much pain doing everything.

A (2:17)

Yeah, I know. You just have to, like, show up to work, like, and just be normal, which is wild.

B (2:22)

I want to be careful today.

A (2:24)

Oh, no, no, no, no.

B (2:25)

I'm going on my for you page and I see a clip of us I'm not loving. It's not bad.

A (2:30)

And my stomach just drops.

B (2:31)

I'm like, what else?

A (2:33)

I need to be careful.

B (2:34)

No, it's you and I. And I'm going, do you have a bbl? And then you're like, yes, I have a bbl. And I'm going, no way. And I'm watching this and it's like, tana, you streamed chicken fingers and lipo. You knew that. And, like, you guys have had this conversation before. And, like, I was mad as a viewer, like, because we do just, like, we're very, like, off camera in the way that we talk to each other. Like, we love to beat a dead horse. It's our favorite thing ever.

A (3:00)

And I forget things. Like, you could literally, like, Oscar reminds me all the time. We just did gestures. Oscar was leaving, but he always reminds me all the time. Like, no, you talked about this.

B (3:07)

This.

A (3:07)

Like, you remember this. Like, I. I dead. Like, I was like, I was like, Alex, Earl and whoever the guy is that she broke. I'm like, oh, I didn't know she was dating someone. He's like, oh, no. Like, two years ago, we talked about them being Barbie and Ken. I'm like, did we. I don't know. Don't remember. Like, and I follow Alex or I love Alex. Her. And I had no idea she had a boyfriend. I was like, oh, okay.

B (3:22)

Really?

A (3:23)

Yeah. And I was like, she's the star.

B (3:25)

Of the show for sure. But I get you. I'm like a goldfish. I have a little goldfish brain, and I just, like, forget. And I sit with my girls and we beat the same dead horses and we have a great time. But that's not like we need to give the viewers. I'm like, no way. You have a bblt.

A (3:39)

You know that sometimes I forget things you say to me sometimes. I'm like, oh, wait, really? Like, you know, like, when you say stuff like, I also love this natural hair today. I also love. We both have, like, literally kind of the same hair.

B (3:49)

The way it's going, it's the same length. I'm like.

A (3:53)

As you're like, I'm gonna be careful. Our Last podcast was 55.0minutes. I was like, wow, we edited a lot out of that. I was like, we need to go, like, hour and a half just in case we edit.

B (4:01)

Why did we even edit out?

A (4:03)

I don't know. Jimmy's like, just so you know, it's only 15 minutes. I was like, oh, no.

B (4:06)

Okay. Oh, to give the people a special today.

A (4:08)

Yeah. We need to go maybe a little extra longer. But I'm always like, what do we talk? I always forget to. I. And I also don't care. I'm like, well, whatever's at it, it's fine.

B (4:14)

Yeah. And just like, we're here and we're vibing. The Alex world breakup is crazy. It's been my whole.

A (4:18)

Is it crazy? Like, when we talked about.

B (4:20)

I was like, I was really invested in their relationship.

A (4:22)

Was he on her TikTok? I swear, I follow all her TikTok, like, a lot.

B (4:27)

She's like, doing what?

A (4:28)

You ready with me?

B (4:29)

You just see a straight man, and it's like, there's a black mirror episode where people are, like, censored out. Yeah. He's just blurred out.

A (4:35)

That's me. And that's. I probably assumed he was like, if they did bar Barbie and Ken, like, her gay friend or something like that, like, I never would have thought, like, that's her boyfriend, because they look alike. When I saw the picture of the breakup, I was like, are they brother and sister? Like, what is happening? Like, and again, I love her. I say that, like, truly, I love Alexandra more than anything in the whole world.

B (4:51)

So I was like, she's everything.

A (4:51)

I didn't even know she had boyfriend.

B (4:52)

She is everything. Well, he started as, like, NFL man. Like, she'd do her get ready with me, and he was kind of like an alias. So she'd be like, I'm gonna go see NFL man later. And it was like, a mystery. And then eventually, obviously, they started dating and doing content together, and they, like, were very cute. Like, they did a lot of cute stuff. I was very, like, parasocially rooting for them, like, invested, because I thought it was just very. He did a lot of cute gestures for her. Like, just cute stuff. And, like, I love that. You know what I mean? Like, the. I always think of athletes. Like, I just. I see a lot of athletes do a lot of crazy. Have seen that?

A (5:26)

Yeah.

B (5:26)

Yes. Bad stuff. So it was like, okay, I like that you do this masculine thing. But then you can come and be. So get ready with me and be so genuinely supportive of her and.

A (5:35)

Yeah.

B (5:36)

Lifting her up and like tearing her down and stuff. So I like, he supported her, but.

A (5:40)

He wasn't there at the ballroom. He wasn't there, but not where this guy is. What's his name?

B (5:45)

What is Braxton Barrios.

A (5:46)

Braxton kind of shot. Everyone was there.

B (5:49)

A lot of people think that they like might have broken up at that point.

A (5:52)

Didn't she say like, you guys were together?

B (5:55)

But do you think she was just like, let me get. Let me just get through this flamenco before. Before I have to talk about this.

A (6:01)

You're right, you know? Yeah.

B (6:02)

Because that also sucks too when like you accomplish something so amazing and you're doing something so amazing and the who world loves to just cling to talking about a man, you know, it's like, yeah, like, I wouldn't want my like Dancing with the Stars amazing journey to be like clouded by a breakup, you know? That is crazy.

A (6:20)

That's why I was kind of shocked that it was like big news. Cuz I was like, is he famous? I mean, he's not like a famous football player. He plays football.

B (6:27)

But I know that the streets like definitely know about him and like, whatever. Cuz like even like McCo and his friends, like they know who he is because they know football players are and stuff. And that was kind of cool to me too. Like the. He has that world, she has her world.

A (6:40)

Right? And like, like giving Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey.

B (6:42)

Yeah. Like it was a vibe. But I mean, I don't know what happened.

A (6:46)

Very small for a football player though. No.

B (6:47)

Yeah.

A (6:47)

I. Is he right? What is he like a. I love. He's little. What is that one? What's that called? What.

B (6:58)

What are wide receivers? Like, why do they call them that?

A (7:00)

He's not wide. Oh, go wide.

B (7:03)

Do you go wide?

A (7:04)

Yeah, like you're throwing and like the ones that are fast and can get all the way over there and then.

B (7:09)

Oh yeah. I guess he could like catch wind.

A (7:11)

That was like Nelly in the longest yard. He was like the runner. They got him like those shoes to run really fast.

B (7:15)

Good movie.

A (7:17)

Okay.

B (7:18)

Is it the anaconda coming back? I walked.

A (7:21)

That was my fear whirling around the chair and I was like, oh my God, like how I literally walk in today.

B (7:28)

There's like. I don't know how to explain this, but there's like a skate park on your roof. Escape out.

A (7:34)

They're doing the tiles. It's like a dump. It's like A dump.

B (7:37)

It's like. It's like a ramp. And it's huge. It's huge. And I just.

A (7:41)

Here.

B (7:41)

And I'm like, it is never a dull day at the Paytas Hackman residence. Then Moses comes out, and I'm trying to ask about the skate park on the roof. He doesn't answer me. He goes, do you like animals? I go, yeah, Moses, I like animals. And he's like, come, come, come. And I'm like, okay. Then I start passing big boxes that say danger on them. Danger, mind you. And then I'm so. I'm scared. And Moses is like, no, no, no. And I'm like, it says danger, Moses. And then I walk in there, and there's a turtle the size of a Honda Civic. And it's like, I just. I love it here.

A (8:09)

That was the tail end of it. Yeah. We had done the spiders and the snakes, and we had a giant lizard, and then. Yeah.

B (8:13)

That's honestly cool.

A (8:14)

There was, like, 20 turtles. The little Malboy Elvis were out there. There was, like, so many turtles. They were just, like, walking across our little, like, driveway. It was really cute.

B (8:22)

That is cute. Would you ever let them get, like, if they wanted a crazy pet?

A (8:25)

Well, that's what I was kind of saying is, like, I'm trying to get more used to animals and comfortable around them. Because, like, one, we live in the mountain, so I'm always seeing, like, bobcats. I see tarantulas. I see coyotes. Like, I see bunnies. I see, like, animals just, like, all the time. So I'm trying to get more comfortable that way. And then two. Yeah, my Malibu really loves, like, snakes and stuff. Like, she, like, wants one, and I'm just like, let me try and get, like, more comfortable. So this was like, Oscar at the end, he, like, surprised me. I didn't know. But when they're like, will you hold him? I was like, okay, Trish, you just like, mom up here and just, like, you know, get over the fears.

B (8:53)

That's actually really cute.

A (8:54)

Yeah, I'm trying for them, because that's so sweet. Maybe. Maybe, like, a reptile, I'd get them. I think dogs are just, like, a little too hard to take care of right now when we have, like, three kids that need.

B (9:02)

Yeah.

A (9:03)

Helped, you know, going to the bathroom and stuff still. So I'm just like, maybe not that yet.

B (9:06)

But yeah, like. Yeah. Or like a gecko.

A (9:10)

Yeah. Well, we have one of those. You just grab one. Yeah. He's like, you're not supposed to take the animals out of nature. So I was like. He said, just go to a rescue and get one. I was like, all right.

B (9:18)

Oh, that's cool, though. Rescue. I was gonna say go to Petco. It's like, here I am learning.

A (9:21)

I think he said, go to Petco's. Like, you go to Petco. Or, like, it's better to go to him.

B (9:24)

To a rescue. That's actually so cute.

A (9:26)

Of Malibu.

B (9:26)

Had, like, a little. Little gecko.

A (9:28)

A gecko. A turtle, maybe a snake.

B (9:31)

Amari had turtles growing up, and he loved them.

A (9:33)

Did you have animals growing up?

B (9:34)

We had a dog, but, like, oh, you did? Yeah. But then my dad, like, put it down randomly, which scarred me so bad for life. She had, like, a cold. And then he came home, and he was like, I put the dog down. And I was like, oh, this is awesome.

A (9:46)

How old were you? Do you remember?

B (9:47)

I don't remember how old I was like, yeah, I was probably, like, 14 or 15. But she was like, I was obsessed with her. She was like, my whole life, and her name was Lily. And, like, it. Oh, my God. It definitely just broke my heart. You know what I mean? Because it was like, your sibling. Yeah, my only sibling. I was in love with the dog, and he put her down, and I. He didn't have to put her down. So it was really like, wait, they.

A (10:09)

Can just put an animal to sleep if they don't need to be.

B (10:11)

I don't know. I mean, I know that, like, Well, I mean, I guess from what I was told, but, like. Because it's not like I, like, went there either. Like, I just. He just came home one day and was like, lily's dad. And I was like, oh, hell, yeah. Thanks. Oh, my God. Traumatizing. I know that, like, yeah, it was money to, like, fix it. Fix her, fix the situation. Hello.

A (10:29)

Yeah.

B (10:30)

But, yeah, and it was just, like, super sucked.

A (10:33)

Oh, my gosh. That is awful.

B (10:36)

I know.

A (10:37)

Gosh, you're. Honestly, when you're booked, you should just have, like, a trilogy and just the first half features about your childhood.

B (10:41)

Because about it, it really is like, as I started to, like, I thought I could get through the childhood so much faster. And then I think as you start to go to the headspace, you just start to remember so many more, like, anecdotal little things. Because there are big things like that, obviously. I remember him putting my dog down, like, wrongfully and just, like, how heartbroken I was, you know, but there's so many little things, and then you just keep adding and adding and adding, and, like, I am so Deep into this book and I'm, like, still a child. It's the most exciting time of the year. Holidays on. The house is back on DraftKings Casino. Celebrate the season with a free chance at 5, 000 in credits with Daily Rewards Rocket. Log in, launch your Rocket three times daily and land rewards like credits, crown spins and more. Use your rewards to play thousands of casino games, everything from fan favorite slots to classic table games. Join the Daily festivities on DraftKings Casino in part trip with DraftKings Casino. The crown is yours.

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B (12:05)

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A (12:10)

Yeah, you know, that is wild. That's what I was gonna say. Like, are you gonna, like, divide it? Are you gonna try and make it all one? Because, I mean, only give me an encyclopedia.

B (12:18)

I know. That's like, that is how I feel sometimes. I'm like, oh, my God, how? But at the same time, I. I don't. I will write about some public bullet points, but, like, I also don't want it to be one of those books where you're buying it so that I can expose this celebrity necessarily. I just don't want to, like, dumb down my writing, like, trauma to that or my experiences to that.

A (12:38)

So you won't hit on any of.

B (12:39)

Like, I will but, like, lighter. And I almost kind of think it's one of those things where it's like, I think people look back at a lot of the things that I did and, like, a Tanacon or a Jake Paul or just a million different, like, things that I did. And they were watching from home being like, why was she like this?

A (12:57)

Right.

B (12:58)

Like, why were you like this across MTV and whatever. So I almost think a lot of the book is, like, like, almost explaining how I got there.

A (13:04)

Yeah.

B (13:05)

You know what I mean? Just like, how my childhood shaped me to be this person who had to learn so many things, like, later.

A (13:11)

Yeah. You know, that makes sense. That makes total sense, too, because I think that is why. Yeah. What people don't know about you and seeing where you are now today is like you're such a totally different person from I would imagine you at like. Well, you did your first video at 15, right? Was that your first?

B (13:23)

That's crazy.

A (13:23)

So you really saw it. That's what's so different about you and me is because like, I never was like a child on the Internet.

B (13:28)

Yeah.

A (13:28)

So I couldn't imagine seeing like, like teenage me on there because it's such a. Yeah. And also being surrounded by YouTubers at that age and stuff. It's like. Or the people you were surrounded by. I mean, I know it's like whatever, but like, you know, older YouTubers around.

B (13:41)

You, it's just like, it was just very crazy. I always like. That is something I started to like write about too, is just that I was like almost like everything that happened to me across my childhood made me this like perfect cocktail for like to be young in Hollywood for negative or just like entities to like latch on to me.

A (14:01)

You know what I mean?

B (14:02)

Like, it's. I was like the perfect, I guess, like victim. I don't even know how.

A (14:06)

No, I think it is a huge thing on how you like how you're raised and stuff and who's around you and what kind of the daddy issues is so real of it all. Like if you've had a supportive dad or not, like, you know, that's. It's such a real thing, you know. So I will be so interested. Yeah. Looks like my daughters and stuff like that. I wonder what it's gonna be like for them to have like a dad in their lives that like, supportive.

B (14:24)

And I always think about that. Makoa, like took me to build a bear yesterday and it was so cute. We built a bear. It was our two year anniversary yesterday. So he like planned a whole day for us. Right. Happy anniversary.

A (14:34)

Two years is crazy. Oh my gosh.

B (14:37)

It was one of the best days of my life yesterday.

A (14:39)

Where'd you go? What'd you do?

B (14:41)

Oh my gosh. He. So I took him to see his favorite comedian like a couple days before I surprised him. How was that? And it was so good. We had such a good. We drove to Bakersfield, which is.

A (14:51)

Yes, that's.

B (14:51)

I mean, I don't want to put out any Bakersfield shade. Okay. But like, definitely I got an email and it was like Bill Burr playing a show near you. And so I was like, yes, it's going to be in Hollywood. It's going to be near Me, right? And then I just drove into Vegas too. So I like, was just in Bakersfield and I was literally asking Google, like, why do people live in Bakersfield? Like, I. I just. Now I know there's oil, there's railways, there's. There are reasons to live there. I was just like, California taxes, but for Bakersfield. Make it make sense. Like, go to. Go to Tennessee. It's beautiful. But we were just there and then I opened the email and it's like Bakersfield. And I'm like, oh, great, we have to go back here.

A (15:27)

How far is it from here from la?

B (15:29)

Like two. And it was two. We drove during rush hour, so it was like three hours because the show was at seven. So we were like driving at four.

A (15:37)

I would just get there the night before or something.

B (15:39)

But that's. I was looking for hotels there and it's like they're either super haunted. Like, oh, I have to pee.

A (15:45)

Wait. Yeah, of course.

B (15:47)

Yeah. We did the comedy show. Makoa literally cried because I like, actually got to surprise him, like all the way up until he didn't know where he was driving us. It's funny. Funny because I don't drive, so I'm like, you're. You have to drive us to this surprise. Yeah. And it was cute. And then it was super funny. Great show. And then.

A (16:03)

Is he like a meet and greet person or. No, guys, I guess don't care.

B (16:05)

No, I don't think so. I don't think. But we had front row seats to Bill Burr and like, he loves Bill Burr and it was just like, very funny. And did you know? Yeah, I like, I love stand up, so I just like, I do keep up with all the comedians and stuff and Billboard is definitely like an icon in the standup world. So it was super cool. And then we drove home and it was cute and then.

A (16:27)

Oh, you didn't stay. You drove back?

B (16:29)

Yes, we drove, but I was like, I don't. I don't want to on Bakersfield. Okay. Like, I feel it just. I was close enough to home to where I was like, I just want to sleep in my bed. Yeah.

A (16:39)

Yeah.

B (16:39)

And a lot of haunted hotels out there.

A (16:41)

Serious called Holly been like, hey, Bakersfield. She would have loved it. Probably.

B (16:46)

She does love. I was talking to her about the last time I was with her, the haunted stuff. I can some. Holly has such good Disney princess energy that I feel like genuinely like a demon or a ghost would be like, I'm not gonna with that.

A (16:57)

Maybe that's why she likes it. She like, just Friends with everyone. All.

B (16:59)

Yeah, literally.

A (17:00)

He's all realms. She's like, I'm just loving everyone and everything.

B (17:04)

Like, I would make a friend, you know? Like, I know I can't.

A (17:07)

The demons would possess us.

B (17:10)

No Sam and Colby for me. Okay.

A (17:12)

Yeah. They really lean into it, though. That's where it's at. Because someone told me that, like, only horror films are getting made now. So you, like, have to really lean into, like, horror stuff because that's what's getting made. And that's what. Even number one on Max. We were just talking about I love la. Like, like, welcome to Dairy is, like, number one on there. Because people are.

B (17:26)

Remember when I thought that that meant dairy, like butter. Did we talk about this?

A (17:30)

Yes.

B (17:30)

See? Oh, my God. I know.

A (17:33)

No, that is the problem. I'll, like, talk about this. We were talking about Nick 5. I'm like, we had this conversation. Like, maybe it was a tan.

B (17:37)

I. Yeah, we just. Yeah, we film a lot. Like, it's. We're just girls. Okay.

A (17:42)

We're just girls. Yeah.

B (17:43)

But then our actual anniversary is the 7th, so I woke up on the 7th, and that was, like, him doing everything for me day because I did the billboard thing for him, and he was just so sweet. Like, two big bouquets of flowers for two years and, like, a batu balloon. Like, what?

A (18:00)

The batu balloon?

B (18:01)

Like, just a two.

A (18:02)

Like a big two for a balloon.

B (18:04)

I was like, what's that? You want to do that big tube, Big tubaloo.

A (18:07)

Okay.

B (18:07)

And then, like, matcha. Just cute, like, stuff. And then we started matcha.

A (18:10)

You were talking about matcha earlier when we were having our little break, our dinner break.

B (18:13)

It's crazy because it gives me crippling anxiety, by the way. I'm just trying to get through that. I'm trying to become a Matcha girl, but it gives me so much anxiety.

A (18:21)

Keep going for it.

B (18:22)

It's literally a drinkable panic attack for me. But it's so good and the girlies love it. So I'm trying to condition myself. And it tastes good.

A (18:28)

So you got your matcha? Yeah.

B (18:30)

And then we went to the park by the house. He wanted to take us on these, like, swan boats, like, those ones. And then they were closing down early, and he, like, did all the research. I felt bad. He, like, they were supposed to close later, and then they just, like, didn't.

A (18:42)

Because it was, like, cold or what was happening.

B (18:44)

I think just, like, under staff type of thing. Like, not a lot of people are doing it. But I was like, it's fine. Like, I don't necessarily need to pedal this boat right now any. So we like watched the sunset. He gave me a letter. We like fed ducks and stuff at the park. It was so cute. They had a watermelon in Tajin stand. I was stoked. Like, oh my God. And then we went to build a bear because I've been saying I want to go. We built a bear first time? Yes. And like, well, I. I had been as a kid before, but it was just so sweet. It's like. It was so. Like he. I kept crying. It was like, like so much of what he has done across these two years is like, heal my inner child. And he like continues to do that and just make life so. So like fun and pure for me and like helps me rewrite so many things that I like didn't obviously get to have like growing up or in other relationships and stuff. So I was just like very. It was very sentimental. I'm very sweet. And we made a bear. What kind of bear? Just like just the, the standard build a bear. But then we dressed her in like slippers and glitter bows and like all the things. And he was just being so cute, like helping me like pick out all this stuff for the bear. He like put a voice recording in the bear that says I love you.

A (19:47)

I love those. That's so cute.

B (19:48)

It was so cute. And then we went to Color Me Mine and we did like like the pottery and the painting and he like set all this up. I didn't know like 20 dates in one day. Yes. Yes.

A (19:57)

Crazy.

B (19:58)

And I was like, this is literally crazy. Like that's like three days. And then we went to ELO for dinner and it was like, which one? The Beverly Hills one where they have.

A (20:05)

The Justin Bieber pasta.

B (20:06)

Yes. I got two. I got one for here and one to go. It was so good.

A (20:10)

That's where we went to your Tana Bitart thing and we went to el. I forgot to get my. I like the truffle pasta and the cheese wheel and I forgot to get it there. I was like. Cuz I get the Justin Bieber too. But they make it in the pasta wheel so good.

B (20:20)

They're so. It's so good. And then like a cake came out for two years and like he just. It just like very thoughtful and sweet. And then we like stayed up all night just like reminiscing and talking about the past two years and like giggling and just like he's so sweet. Like it was really like I just. He's the love of my Life, it was crazy.

A (20:38)

And how are you sitting when you're talking? Are you like, cuddling? Are you like, crisscross? Are you like on chairs? Are you eating food? Like, how are you doing it?

B (20:44)

We were just like laying in bed, like, facing each other, just kind of like just thinking about all the things like, that we've been through together. Like, just all the places we've traveled and like all the memories and like we're now in this place where we do look at photos of us when we first met and like, we look younger and different. Yeah. And it's like, that's so crazy too.

A (21:03)

That, like, how much you change together.

B (21:05)

Yes. Like, and just like, oh, I'm just so grateful for him, truly. And he's so sweet, like, just telling me all the things that he loves about me and like, about us. And like, just like his, his words meant so much to me, you know?

A (21:16)

And he wrote you a letter?

B (21:17)

Yeah, he wrote me two for two years. So like, it was so. They were so sweet too. Like, wrote a poem in one which was like, so cute and just like, I love him.

A (21:27)

When you think about all the stuff like you've done together, I was thinking about that too. It's just like stuff you've like, achieved together. You know what I mean? Like, the milestones you hit, but like him supporting you and vice versa. It's like, really.

B (21:36)

And it's so cool to me too, that like, all the cool things we've done, right? Like, I can think about us like in Paris under the Eiffel Tower. Like, obviously that's so cool and whatever. But the main constant is just like the thing that I remember the most. Like the thing that's so prevalent in my brain is just like, it's you and me together. Like, we just like, are this, you, like, united front and we love each other so much and like, we both have this like, collective agreement that like, we're gonna fight for this and we want this and like we're gonna show up for each other every single day and make the other person feel seen and cared for and like, loved. And it's just. I feel so lucky. I feel like. And it's just, it feels universal to me too. It's like I was never. The textbook says that like LA girl from Vegas, crazy, like, leaving her crazy era, was not fully out of the woods yet, is not supposed to fall in love with like, the farm raised sweet boy from Maui, you know? And like. Yeah, it's just like, it makes me feel like something bigger than us. Like, wanted this for us a thousand percent.

A (22:35)

I feel that way for sure with you because it's like, I remember even when you, like, first met him, I think it was like, you met him in October, was it? And I remember he, like, came on, you're like, oh, there is this, like, person or whatever. And it was just like, so interesting how it, like, became like this full fledged thing. It's like, you know, and how you guys met in the whole story. It's all very. Yeah. Aligned.

B (22:53)

We also, like, we were laughing about that yesterday because we were like, both of our friend groups, like, we know that they both were like, I know mine was, and I know that his was now, you know, just like, what the is this? You know what I mean? Like, they never expected this. Mine never expected this. I remember texting the group chat when I first met him, and I was like, I think I met the love of my life. And everyone was like, okay, Tana, yeah, you did. Because, like, just who I. Who I was. And like, you know, like, all right, like, you're no, you're this hot surfer and you're having a good week. Okay. Like, this is not like. And just the distance, like, it's. It wasn't on paper. It's not supposed to, like, work. And I think his friends obviously were also, like, didn't think he'd be with this, like, influencer girl and what are her intentions there? He would, like, even we were talking about that, like, how all of his friends kind of went in, like, we're gonna grill her and make sure she's a good girl because we love you and to protect you. And then they all like, oh, my God. No, no, you're fine. I'm gonna drink pickle juice on not Loveline right now.

A (23:45)

Oh, it's gonna happen.

B (23:47)

You just drink it straight from the jar.

A (23:50)

I just love your little food deliveries you get. Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God. How was it? Pickle juice is crazy, though.

B (24:03)

But it helps. I'm not even kidding you. I say this all the time to people. It helps so much with period cramps in a way that I cannot explain. Like, actually not on some me loving pickles or like, like trying to be like, pick me, choose me, love me.

A (24:17)

How's it feel? Instantly doesn't work. It takes a minute.

B (24:19)

It takes a minute. But the sodium and the electrolytes, like, I don't know what it is. It's like you could take 10 Tylenol and it does not help in the same way that that does.

A (24:26)

God that is pickly.

B (24:27)

No, it's. And my mouth right now, like I'm salivating.

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B (27:19)

Okay, well, like, I'm in that much pain, truly. And, like, are you okay?

A (27:23)

Are we gonna get through it? It's fine if we're not. The holidays are coming. It's okay. Okay.

B (27:26)

No, you're sweet. You're very sweet.

A (27:28)

I'm like, okay, I don't wanna.

B (27:29)

Like, I was even thinking about in the car right over here. I just always appreciate your, like, you're like, just. You have such a motherly, caring aspect about you. And, like, if I'm dying and in pain. You're very nice. But no, like, literally, there's a nurse right now. Now, like, resuscitating someone in this much pain, like, it's just like, it's. It is what it is.

A (27:46)

Or like, delivering a baby or something. It's like, crazy.

B (27:48)

Yeah. Literally, I was like, does Trisha have, like, an extra epidural laying around? We were saying that in the car.

A (27:53)

Like, I love an epidural.

B (27:54)

I want one right now.

A (27:56)

Oh, it would take it away so good.

B (27:58)

It would take it away so good.

A (27:59)

Would you take a needle in your back to get rid of the pain? Like, for a minute.

B (28:03)

It's not that bad.

A (28:04)

You don't love needles.

B (28:05)

I love them in my face. Like, I just got a face full of filler. Like. Oh, yeah.

A (28:10)

Did you say you got a lip flip last week?

B (28:12)

No, I actually. Actually got lip filler for the first time in a long time. I just, like, wanted a little volume. I don't know.

A (28:19)

That's crazy. I mean, let's go. It doesn't look, like, that drastically different.

B (28:22)

But, like, they're still swollen and, like, my chi. I got Some cheek filler, too. They're still swollen, which is crazy because I didn't. I haven't gotten filler in a very, very long time, but I just felt a little volumeless. Like, I just was like, I want to get a little volume.

A (28:36)

I feel like that. Yeah. When you just want a little, like, something special, you know, get it done. I'm, like, scared to get, like, not scared. That's like, the wrong word. But, like, I feel under my face probably look crazy.

B (28:45)

I, like, understand completely. And, like, I made them do, like, the smallest amount just because I was like, I don't know if this is necessarily something I want to get back into, but what did.

A (28:53)

What does it do for you?

B (28:55)

The volume of my lips? Literally, just like, Because a flip. You're flipping what you already have. And then you also, like, can't use a straw. Use mouthwash. And like, people are commenting like, she's chewing with the lip flip, too. Like, I kind of was just like, I want them to be a little bigger instead of, like, stuck up. You know what I mean? But I'm about to try. Haley Bieber went on Owen Thiel's podcast and.

A (29:14)

Oh, really? She's huge.

B (29:16)

Yeah. They were in bed together and she was talking about how she spins her blood and then injects her own blood into her face. And I. Haley. Haley Bieber could genuinely, like, she could say she's doing anything for her skin. And I, like, I'm just. Yes, I'm so. And she's. She has such good skin. Like, her Getty Images look. Face tune. Smoother save. Smoother save. Smoother save.

A (29:42)

Like, I know the skin game is something I'm not good with. Like, how they get that glass smooth skin. Like, I don't know how to do that.

B (29:47)

And, like, genuinely. Hailey Bieber, it's like, it's insane. Her skin is. She's just like reverse aging, literally. And I was like, I want to try that. So I think I'm going to try that instead of filler.

A (29:57)

How do you get the blood out?

B (29:58)

Where? I don't know.

A (29:59)

They just dry it.

B (30:00)

I'm going to find out out. I'll draw myself. Like, I need to know.

A (30:03)

They also said there's one called, like, a Fraxel one where they like, you know. You done that?

B (30:07)

No, I just got a 4D laser.

A (30:09)

Facial on Friday, though. My, like, I literally. Crocodile bag. How do you think it. Do you think?

B (30:15)

Did you say you look like a crocodile bag? Exotic.

A (30:18)

Not a crocodile bag. I just said with our vet. I was like, you know what? We need to say the crocodiles. We need to say the ostriches.

B (30:23)

No, he was, like, showing the lizard. And I was thinking about a pair of shoes I have that look like that. And I was like, I know. Yeah, but I think they're not. I think my shoes are fake. Like, not real crocodile.

A (30:34)

But yeah, because real car is expensive crocodile. Bergen's like $88,000.

B (30:38)

What do people think? Like, I would be curious to what he thinks of buying things that are like real fur, for example, but second hand. Because I would never buy anything that's, like, real.

A (30:49)

Right.

B (30:50)

Like, you know what I mean? Like, from a mass producer or anything. But if I'm, like, buying it secondhand.

A (30:54)

I think that's okay. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't know, like, ethically, but it seems. Seems better than supporting. Because we were just talking about that today too, on the podcast, like, over consumption. And we're just thinking, like, how, like, to stop it. And it was like, yeah, kind of maybe just buying stuff that's secondhand. Dude.

B (31:06)

I went to this influencer gifting suite the other day and I, like, had a panic attack and I had to leave. Like, I had, like, a serious panic attack. And I, like, felt so bad. Like, I didn't want to be in the environment having a panic attack.

A (31:20)

Yeah.

B (31:20)

But I've been getting rid of a lot of my stuff lately, too, because I just, like, feel gross about it. And I'm really like, I. I still will shop now and again, but I'm really like, you know, I've been telling you for so long, this podcast, I'm really trying to just, like, only buy my clothes on Depop if I'm going to buy clothes and just, like, be better. And I went to this gifting suite and they're just giving, like, I'm watching influencers, including me, because I went and I was like, I was trying to get holiday gifts for people and just kind of like, honestly, I got you a fierce gift.

A (31:51)

Okay? I found.

B (31:52)

I found something for you and it was fabulous. But at the same time, I'm watching influencers, like, leave with the. These just like 50 bags, you know what I mean? Like, 50 bags of just dry shampoos and skin care and all this stuff. And then it's kind of like this thing where every brand is wanting you to, like, take photos and do a testimonial, but you haven't tried any of it yet. So it's like, I don't. I essentially, I'm literally. I'M taking all the stuff that I got, except for, like, a few gifts for people, to a women's shelter. I was telling Meg today. I was just like, I want to give. Even just pr. Like, we receive so much stuff, and it's just like. Like, I don't know. I just really do want to be better. Like, it's just, like.

A (32:29)

It's hard. It's like, baby steps. I agree. I'm the same way. I need to for, like, my kids, this teacher. But it's so hard because shopping does.

B (32:35)

Like, we get in this place, and it's like, I think I am an addict through and through. Like, just, like, what alcohol and, like, nicotine and just like, yeah, different things in my life. And I'll, like, even after stopping drinking, I feel like I was for a second there, like, almost filling that void with, like, I'm gonna buy this thing that I want. And then it's like, eventually you just. Just are realizing, like, nothing's. You just want the next thing. And I think I was getting so upset at my for you page too, because it's like, I used to get on and see, like, cute videos of cats and, like, videos of my friends, and now, like, all. So I just, like, keep seeing. So just tick tock, shop. You need this Ralph Lauren Christmas. Like, just trends, everything. Diet Coke, X Target. I was like. I saw that. I was like, oh, my God, I want to go. Like, I love Diet Coke. Like, what's Diet Coke? Like, they did a collab, and they're releasing a bunch of Diet Coke, like, merchandise. And it's. It's like. But just what's it gonna do? You know, it's not.

A (33:26)

Yeah. I think it's okay occasionally to shop for things.

B (33:30)

Yes. And treat yourself.

A (33:31)

Yeah. But going over. I mean, mine was. My trigger. Was. And it's. It's also. This was me. So it's like, now judgment was her, but was seeing, like, the Jaclyn Hill Stanley cups of, like, 36 Stanley Cups. And I was like, same. Honestly, I like, 5,000 bling cups. And I was like, I need to probably, like, chill on this because it does become so crazy.

B (33:47)

And we don't need this many during the holiday season. I get even. Last night, I was wrapping gifts until, like, 3:00am Like, I love, love giving gifts to people.

A (33:55)

Yeah.

B (33:55)

And I go overboard. I really do. And, like, the gift of giving things to other people makes me so happy. And, like, donating makes me so happy. Like, getting. And just like, I think that was, like, my last step. It was like, I opened my beauty cabinet, and I was just like, I use the same, like, makeup routine minus a few things, you know, like, obviously, I'd like to try new products and stuff. And, like, I appreciate PR and stuff, but there is, like, a point where it's like, you, like. Like, Milani sent me 50 foundations. You know what I mean? Or, like, maybe not 50, but, like, a. I have a whole drawer of Milani foundations, and it's like, I should take this to a women's shelter because I couldn't even use all this before it expires.

A (34:33)

Like, right. And all different, like, shades and stuff, too.

B (34:36)

And it's like, I appreciate. Obviously, I understand the. The marketing, you know, they want me to try it and. And whatever, but it's like, so I. I'll keep one and the other. Like, it's just. I don't know. We, as influencers, it is like the pr, the gifting suite, just like, oh, my God. I don't know why it, like, made me, because then I left, too. And I'm looking at all these things that are just being handed to me, and I was like, I get it. You want your brand out there. Marketing and exposure. But at the same time, like, I'm holding, like, 50 sparkling Boba teas, and it's like, I can try one and go take this somewhere for people who, like, would love.

A (35:07)

How many boba teas did you actually have?

B (35:09)

I am, like, 20. They gave me, like, a bunch of bags of them.

A (35:14)

What do you mean? Wait, but was it like. I don't get it. They were like, boba teas, like, with straws?

B (35:20)

No, in a can. In a can. It was like, it's like a new brand, you know? And I was like, okay, I'll try one.

A (35:25)

But I know. Just.

B (35:27)

I don't know. Like, I love.

A (35:28)

I do know, like, when people are like, you know, I grew up with nothing and stuff like that. Like, I totally get that. But, yeah, now it's like, okay, it's becoming a problem. And it's like watching influencers. It is like holding a mirror up and be like, okay, wait. There's way too much of this happening in the world. And just, like, all the, like, effects of it and stuff like that. Like the water waste and.

B (35:42)

Yeah. And it is like, I think, for a while. Yeah. Like, I grew up with nothing. I was so excited to have stuff, and I. That was one thing that really came from my childhood where I was like, money and things would fix this. That's what I thought for so long. The turmoil and the fighting and the emptiness. And I did live like that and have lived like that. And, like, still I'm noticing myself living like that, and it's just like, I'm trying to just travel lighter through life because there's so many things that I just, like. I don't know.

A (36:10)

It feels better.

B (36:11)

I don't need, you know?

A (36:12)

Well, you have your time now spent playing piano. I saw this was very exciting. You're so good at it.

B (36:18)

Funny, because I kept getting comments of people saying, like, you should play piano and Trisha sings and, like, we should. Even if it's just for a tik tok. Like, I'll learn a song that you want to sing. I could learn, like, shallow. Well, you're probably sick of actually being.

A (36:30)

Told to sing song till the day I die.

B (36:33)

Like, it really is. It is. Sorry, Gaga.

A (36:35)

No, it's great. That'd be funny.

B (36:38)

Like, I would literally. That'd be funny for tours.

A (36:40)

You're so good. All right, if we.

B (36:43)

If we were, like, discussing doing a few shows, you know?

A (36:45)

Yeah. What song do you like to sing and play? Like, what one would you want to sing and play? Play.

B (36:49)

Oh, I actually, like. I love learning Adele because I love Adele and, like, I feel like Adele's songs are so I don't even have to sing along to it to, like, know it's Adele. You know what I mean? Like, I learn it and everyone, like, knows what you're playing. So I love, like, learning Adele songs. And, like, how long are you.

A (37:06)

How are you learning these? Are you, like, learning by ear? Someone's teaching you? Are you just looking at hands like music?

B (37:12)

Growing up, I did, like, just in life. I really don't even know how I acquired remembering all of the. The keys, the notes, like, knowing where A and B and C. Just, like, knowing, you know, and so that's always, like, been in my brain. Like, I just, like, somehow have remembered that. And then, like, across my, like, musicians eras, too, I feel like I picked up more things about piano, which is cool.

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B (39:11)

So now I just watch a lot of tutorials. Like when I, I just looked at. Because you know how they do like the wrapped, like Spotify wrapped or whatever you can look at like YouTube wrapped. And my like number one channel I was watching was, was like like smule piano tutorials and like.

A (39:24)

So you're just teaching yourself.

B (39:25)

Yeah. Like I'll just like be like, I want to learn this song. And then I'll watch the tutorial until I like.

A (39:28)

Amazing. So it's like almost like photographic. Like you're just like visual.

B (39:31)

It's kind of like Guitar Hero or something like that where it like comes down and it's showing you like you're playing like a C and E. And then like you just watch it slow and you like keep doing it. And it's like, it's a really nice thing for ADHD because it stops my like thoughts.

A (39:45)

Yeah.

B (39:45)

Like if I'm sitting there learning a piano song, I'm not like spiraling or thinking.

A (39:49)

Yeah.

B (39:49)

It's just like very, very focus on this and like just relax. So it's. I love it.

A (39:54)

Wow. That is because when you were playing. Was it Beethoven? What were you playing?

B (39:58)

What was I playing for Elise? Beethoven. For Elise's Beethoven.

A (40:01)

Mozart.

B (40:02)

Beethoven.

A (40:03)

It was so good. It was like, right? That was like the classic one.

B (40:05)

Yes.

A (40:05)

Yes. Yeah.

B (40:06)

And I'm not done learning that. I have a ways to go on that.

A (40:09)

It's like you, like, did you memorize that or are you reading the music?

B (40:11)

That was just the same thing, like learning on a tutorial. And like, because honestly, we were in Hawaii and Mario Salmon started. Started like, ripping that song on the piano, like, just doing so good. And I was like, wait, this has to be me. I'm living. I need to. I need to be able to do that. Because it is like such a flex, like, to know that, you know?

A (40:26)

Of course. I think people are so, like, shook on Tick tock by it. They're like, oh, my God.

B (40:30)

It's like, I can't have a piano in my house and not know how. Like, that's embarrassing. Yes. Like, get your money's worth. Learn and like it. They say it takes 10 years to be good at piano. Like, it takes 10 years to be good. So it's definitely. It's. I'm not good. It's just like, I love having fun. Fun. Yeah.

A (40:46)

But then by the time in 10 years, what are you gonna, like, do a concert. You could do like a full concert just playing piano.

B (40:50)

I think it'd be so funny if at some point we open a show with me playing the piano and you're singing.

A (40:55)

Would love, like, how long be like, what is that song?

B (40:58)

It could be any song. I don't know.

A (41:01)

Okay. Elton John. Yeah.

B (41:03)

Oh, my God, man, that'd be cool.

A (41:05)

I have a lot. Oh, my God. You can have. So there's so many piano things that you.

B (41:08)

Yeah, but it has to be what you want to sing.

A (41:10)

God, I don't know.

B (41:11)

Yeah, we'll have to figure it out.

A (41:13)

Yeah. There so many good ones.

B (41:14)

Got a call this girl and she.

A (41:15)

Said on her Spotify wrapped two top.

B (41:17)

Songs was Hefner and then Freaky. She was saying how specifically she would love to see you guys go back to back.

A (41:23)

Like a little mash up.

B (41:24)

We could do a mashup.

A (41:26)

Oh, that'd be cute.

B (41:27)

That's kind of. Oh, my God. Or we could just make a new song.

A (41:30)

Begging. We definitely need to make a new song. Cuz like, Hefner doesn't have like a chorus. When I was rehearsing it for Vegas, I was like, where's the chorus?

B (41:38)

Y' all love this song with no chorus.

A (41:41)

I love it though. That's. That's so fun though, to be like. I laugh a song with no chorus because I try to figure out like what was like the. The part that everyone would know and it's like obviously the first. The intro is where it's at. But then I'm like, oh, there's not really.

B (41:51)

I'm trying to think what I thought like the chorus was at the time. I guess, like on your. Like, I'm Hefner, I take 10. Like I rep her cuz. Do I say that multiple times?

A (41:59)

Oh, you do.

B (42:00)

Okay, so I guess that's the. No, but.

A (42:02)

No, but that is catchy and that's what people know.

B (42:04)

So I guess that's the of it. But like, no. Without you. Without you was. Fan wants to hear without you on tour.

A (42:12)

No, I know. You really could do a whole music tour. If we do a tour, we really could just. Just like Charlie xx choice of on over here.

B (42:17)

Just like co headline. I think it'd be really. You know what we could do is like a. Almost like a. A call me, text me type of song. Like for Loveline, like. Like where the chorus is about, like, call me like, and I'll tell you to dump him. Like, call me.

A (42:34)

That's a good one.

B (42:35)

Like, and it could be like a Loveline type of song.

A (42:37)

We really just need to like, sit down and like, get this.

B (42:40)

Yes. Oh my God. That's like. I think that's. That might be the idea. It just.

A (42:45)

It kind of feels a little Kim possibly, like.

B (42:46)

Yeah, beat me if you want exactly, like something of that energy, like, call me and like, I'll tell you to dump him type of thing. I gotta figure out how to like, how. That would be catchy.

A (42:57)

Okay.

B (42:57)

Like, that could be fun.

A (42:59)

Yeah. If we have like a. Like a theme and like an idea of what we want to say.

B (43:02)

Yes. Would you be into that if it was like. Yeah, kind of like about like. And I could just see us in.

A (43:07)

The video, like, oh, just here on this set.

B (43:11)

Yes. Honestly, that's kind of funny too. Like, we're just eating food and it's like, oh my God.

A (43:16)

Just having like phone calls.

B (43:17)

Yeah. Or like. Yeah, we just do our like.

A (43:19)

I like it. I love it. Yeah. Because we've been thinking about song for so long and it's like, it is really hard to just.

B (43:24)

That's a good concept though. I think that if it was kind of like about Loveline, like, you know what I mean? Like, not in a corny way, but like in a camp Way.

A (43:32)

Yeah. Like, we just called that loveline.

B (43:34)

Yeah, like, like, oh, and we could, like, talk too. I feel like people are so into that. Like, when people are talking, like, what'.

A (43:39)

Song are you thinking of?

B (43:40)

He just texted me and he, like, broke up with me. And, like, then the beat drops, like, you know what I mean?

A (43:44)

Yeah. It's giving, like, remember the hot girl Problem song?

B (43:47)

Hot girls. We have problems too. We're just like you, except we're hot. Such a good song. I loved that. That's. That's what it is. It's like campy like that.

A (44:00)

Yeah, I think so.

B (44:01)

Hot girls. We have problems too. Wherever you girls are. Like, in my house. That went triple platinum.

A (44:05)

Yeah, that was everything. And then like 2012 and it was just like, wait, really? I think so.

B (44:09)

Oh, my God, that's so funny.

A (44:10)

2013.

B (44:12)

TW Omari. But Ty put me onto that song and TW.

A (44:17)

I love. I love. I love the TW though. We love it. Respectful.

B (44:20)

No, but Ty put me onto that song and I thought it was like, new. Like, I thought, oh, yeah. I didn't know it was like, recorded forever ago.

A (44:27)

Yeah, that was like, they should get.

B (44:28)

Back in the studio.

A (44:30)

Maybe they did. They probably did some follow up.

B (44:32)

But you know what? Like, hot girls reinvent themselves. Like, we're taking over that, that niche. That's actually everything.

A (44:37)

We could do like a part two.

B (44:39)

Yeah.

A (44:39)

Yeah, I like that. What songs are you listening to now? What kind of music do you listen to right now?

B (44:42)

What have I been listening to right now? I've been honestly listening to a lot of Bieber to get prepared for Bieberella already months away. I know, but I'm so excited. Like, every time. Even right now, I'm like, I'm having bad cramps, but I'm seeing Justin Bieber at Coachella.

A (44:56)

Like, it just keeps you going.

B (44:58)

Yes, it's keeping me alive. I'm trying to think of anything else. I love this girl, Bella K. She writes really sad music. I've been listening to lot of her.

A (45:04)

How did you find her? Tik Tok.

B (45:06)

Yeah, she made this song called the Sick and it's like, gut wrenching. It's about, like, only loving sick people. People who are like, sick in the head, essentially, and. But really spoke to me and all the past versions of myself, I was going say, do you ever.

A (45:18)

Do you like, listen to any, like, love songs now that you're in love or you're like, okay, now I can relate to love songs.

B (45:22)

Think. But I am just playing music as though a man Left me on the side of the road, always. Jensen McCrae, she's so. She was in my Spotify wrap. She's kind of another one of those.

A (45:31)

Like, what is your Spotify wrapped age? Do you know?

B (45:34)

I don't. Well, I use Apple Music.

A (45:36)

You know, same. I use itunes. So I don't even have a Spotify wrapped.

B (45:39)

I don't have a Spotify wrapped either. I'm an Apple. I'm two. The interface is much more for like an iPad kid like me. Spotify has a lot going on.

A (45:46)

Yeah, that's how I feel too. I was like, oh, I don't know. So you know, your top is.

B (45:49)

My top was Justin Bieber and Bob Dylan.

A (45:52)

Wow, I forgot about your Bob Dylan.

B (45:54)

So my age is probably like 4, 40, 50, like I don't know, somewhere in the middle of those two artists.

A (46:00)

Yeah, I don't, I don't like we always talk about this. I don't listen to music.

B (46:03)

A lot of Katy Perry was on my.

A (46:06)

What song are you listening to? We love.

B (46:07)

I was listening to her old album, One of the boys. Like that, like Teenage Dream is on that. Like, like all of that. I was into that at the beginning of this year, so that made it. Nessa Barrett was in my.

A (46:18)

Wow.

B (46:20)

I loved Breakfast in Bed. I played that song a lot. Great song.

A (46:23)

Wait, that's. Yeah, I was wondering, like that's so interesting because you see what's her dad's name? Billy Ray Cyrus. You see his ex wife. Oh my God.

B (46:34)

What's her. What is her name? Like Sparkle Rose.

A (46:36)

It's like. Yeah, yeah. It's like Forest Rain.

B (46:38)

Sparkle Rose. Fire Rose. Fire Rose.

A (46:40)

Is that right?

B (46:41)

I actually have so much to say. I'm gonna pee. But we're coming right back. Don't even stop recording. I'll pee so fast.

A (46:45)

I get ready in like three minutes. So like when you want that he most takes longer than me. He'll take like 30 minutes to shower and get ready as like, why does it take 30 minutes?

B (46:52)

Do you do this thing? Well, I guess you don't because you get ready so fast. But I do this thing to Makoa all the time where like he'll be chilling until I'm ready and then he'll take like five, ten minutes. And then I'm like, you're the reason we're late. And it's like after you're done getting.

A (47:04)

Ready for five, 10 minutes. No, he Moses just takes a long time and I'm just ready. I'm just ready to go. Like, I guess I'm just more used to waiting for him.

B (47:13)

I guess that's why Nicole is one, like, thing that is so bad is like, I think I can lag. I can be late. I can whatever. And he's so, like, Hawaii and just chill. So then we, like, make each other worse in that way. That is like the worst thing.

A (47:28)

Wait, but is he laid back about it or. Oh, because he doesn't care if you're there on time or not.

B (47:32)

And just like, yeah, honestly, like, it's.

A (47:34)

A good way to be though. At least they're not. Like, I am a rusher. I'm especially with like, Moses. Like, what is taking so long? What is this? You know, Like, I'm a Russian, obviously, having kids, you can't rush. But I'm still trying to rush. I'm still trying. Like, why kids? His hair done. Like, why is this. Yeah.

B (47:45)

Yes.

A (47:45)

So yeah.

B (47:46)

Oh, my God. Me, Mako and kids, like, we're gonna be just. We're gonna miss everything.

A (47:49)

We'll never get there anywhere ever.

B (47:51)

Like, Jesus.

A (47:53)

I've always planned three hours ahead for the airport and literally we're always just walking onto the plane as it's about to close. Like, I don't understand. Like, we'll like, leave three hours early and it just like, takes so much longer.

B (48:03)

What is it like taking kids through tsa?

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A (49:45)

Well, if you have pre check, then come with you, so that's nice. Although people are just. They just. Travelers just hate kids, you know, they really are just, like, pushing you and they just hate getting behind you because you take them out of strollers, then you gotta take the stroller down. And it's just like. It is a chore.

B (49:58)

But it's so overwhelming, I imagine, for you and Moses as well, because it's like, it's. I can barely, like, get myself through the airport, and that's with, like, Makoa carrying all my things. I can imagine at some point, like, he won't be able to carry all my things because he will be carrying our child. Child.

A (50:11)

Yeah, that's definitely Moses. He's just, like, carrying everything and the kids. But I. I try to. I try to help. We had my mom come with us, too. I think the good rule of thumb is, like, one adult to each kid if you can. Because we've taken the kids out. Just three, just us. And it's. Yeah, it's a lot more challenging because they're all, like, running and. Yeah.

B (50:27)

Doing their big one.

A (50:28)

Doing their big one. The bathroom breaks, you know, like, okay, use the bathroom. I don't have to go to the bathroom. And then, like, once you get on the plane, it's like, I gotta go bathroom. I was like, oh, my gosh.

B (50:35)

Yes. Oh, my God. And then you have to go into the plane bathroom with them, obviously. And that's like. And it's such a loud.

A (50:40)

So, yeah, we have to, like, make sure they leave before they hear it flash because Then they'll get scared. And even when you go to public restrooms, if it's one of those automatic flushers, you bring band aids in. You put band aids around the sensor so that way it doesn't scare them. Because if that thing goes, oh my God, Matt will not knock out of the bathroom. She's like, get up. And yeah, it's like a whole thing. It's like, oh, my gosh. Or we have little potties we'll bring for Elvis. Like, there's like a little potty you bring and there's just a lot happening.

B (51:02)

But it's good on you, though. Like, just sincerely, obviously it's the most rewarding thing in the world as well.

A (51:08)

And, like, it's a lot of work.

B (51:09)

Yeah. But, yeah, it's a full time job on top of your full time job.

A (51:13)

It's a full time job. I always said that about, like, stay at home parents. I'm like that. To me, I feel like it'd be easier, obviously, like, if you're a firefighter or nurse, like, but to me it's like, I think it's. It's harder to stay at home fully with the kids and, like, you know, get to do this or something. It's like a break, you know what I mean? And then. But to be with them all the time, it's. I mean, it's wonderful. But it can be hard. For sure.

B (51:30)

It's cute though. And they're just the best. They really are.

A (51:33)

It's fun. It's a. It's a cozy time you're off to for the holidays. You're on vacation for the holidays. You're going out. Hawaii.

B (51:41)

It's so funny lately. People, like, think I live there full time, which it feels like you do. I know.

A (51:46)

I feel like you just come in, literally do this. I'm like, okay, I'm going back to Hawaii. It's okay. Bye. Like, it feels that way for sure. It is true.

B (51:52)

Like, I try to do like three months here and then Hawaii and then three months here in Hawaii and stuff.

A (51:57)

Oh, really? Three months?

B (51:58)

Well, like, I was there last in September, so October, November, two months. This one's, this one's a little fiercely close. But it's funny because late lately, and this is bad. I can't keep doing this. But I've started lying to people. People will text me and they'll be like, are you in Hawaii? And I'll mind you, I'm on my way to your house. And I'm like, yes, it's so beautiful. Like I have to say, I just got caught in a lie the other day. I don't even want to say. I really can't even say because I'm. If I said who, I honestly think people would be like, I see why you told them you were in Hawaii.

A (52:30)

Oh, oh, oh, yeah, of course.

B (52:34)

I was just like, yeah, yeah, girl, I'm in Hawaii.

A (52:36)

Yeah, yeah. I would say that any ways. I would just say I'm in Hawaii.

B (52:39)

Well, the truth is, is that really I do stock my days here so much that, like, then explaining to someone like, I just don't have any free time. I can put you in this one hour slot. Makes me sound like I think I'm Beyonce.

A (52:50)

It's so funny you said that in New York too. But I'm such a slaughter where I'm just literally like, I have 12 to 1. Like, if we can do it during a nap time, sure. But, like, I don't think it's a bad thing, honestly. I think that's like.

B (52:59)

I just think it can sound Hollywood sometimes, especially to friends, you know?

A (53:04)

Like, I think when people are busy, they just understand it. You know what I mean? Same thing with, like, my kids. I'm like, God, there is a slot of time I can do.

B (53:09)

Yeah.

A (53:09)

And there's nothing that's like. Honestly, I respect it because it's like, okay, that's like you're trying to make it work. You know what I mean? Like, you're like, okay, I have like two to four here or something. Yes.

B (53:17)

And especially, like lately I've just been like, doing so much different work stuff. A lot of like, random things and. But also just things I'm working on that, like, I don't have as much time for friends that I do love and care about. And I'm like, trying to just still maintain those relationships and, like, make it work so hard.

A (53:32)

That's why I never said about friendships is like, how you make time for them because there's just so much happening.

B (53:38)

Yeah. Even the other night we, like, had to go downtown for, like, a friend's. I say had go downtown, but, like, it was just so far. And it's like, I want to be a supportive friend and I want to be here and I'm like, so excited. But, like, this is like five hours to, like, get there and back.

A (53:53)

Well, we, we. We've talked about downtown L. A. Extensively. But yeah, if there's something downtown, I'm like, it's just too far. Yeah, like, the parking and everything. I'm like, no, I have to really.

B (54:02)

Love you to get, like, downtown for you.

A (54:04)

Was it worth it? What'd you go, like, dinner or what you do?

B (54:06)

It was our friend Jaden. Jaden Hossler.

A (54:08)

He.

B (54:11)

Was singing. He was doing Christmas songs for, like, charity and stuff. So I was like, it's a cool cause, and, like, we love him and, you know, we'll go. We'll go support, but it was far.

A (54:19)

Okay. It's kind of fun, though. It was cute little Christmas songs.

B (54:23)

Yeah. Three songs. We drove down for three songs.

A (54:27)

That's fun, though.

B (54:28)

Okay.

A (54:28)

What were they, like, his, or were they, like, you know, he was seeing.

B (54:30)

Like, old, like, Frank Sinatra Christmas. And, like, it was. It was honestly such a vibe. And I love him to death. Death. So it was, like, really great. That's cute. Yeah.

A (54:37)

Yeah. I love that. I think. Yeah, for the holidays, when you can, like, just get away and, like, relax and just not have to do it, like, New Year's Eve. Are you a New Year's Eve person? You go out?

B (54:45)

Well, I used to. Oh, my God, just diabolically. I would. New Year's was, like, the biggest bender. Miami, New York, like, Cabo. Like, just, like, being in the craziest places, doing the craziest. There was a New Year's Day in Vegas where I woke up, and I woke up at our family home, and I literally. I thought I was going to die. Like, what I did the night before, like, no, it was. It's not even like, I'm talking about it lightly, but it wasn't light. I was, like, getting an IV and just, like, I felt so bad. And then I started going to New Year's, going to Hawaii for New Year's, and I. I really like now that I prioritize New Year's Day so much more than New Year's Eve, because for so long, I was doing my biggest on New Year's Eve to where, like, the first day of the year every year for, like, 10 years, I had.

A (55:34)

Felt like, oh, interesting.

B (55:36)

As. As I've gotten older, I'm almost like, what do. What is that saying about your next whole year? If you're waking up and you feel, like, complete and utter. You have the anxiety scaries. You don't know what you did the night before. You're like, I know that being young is partying. Like, I'm not, like, trying to hate on it, like, too much. But I started to really prioritize what I was doing on New Year's Day and, like, wake. Obviously, waking up in Hawaii is, like, the dream. I'm not sitting Here saying, look, everyone can go to. I understand. I'm living the dream and I'm so, so grateful. But, like, I think prioritizing your New Year's Day is something to be thought about because you're setting the precedent essentially.

A (56:09)

For the year will be.

B (56:10)

Yeah. Who you want to be across the year. So, yeah, they say that. They say you're not, like, supposed to.

A (56:14)

Clean on New Year's Day for a reason. Right. Like, you're not. It's like bad luck or it sweeps out something or you're sweeping away stuff. Like, they say you're really supposed to, like, rest and just, like, you know, not manifest, but, like, just think of, like, the positive things of what the years to come. Like, you're really not supposed to do too much on. On or work at all or something, because it just sets the precedent for the year that you're gonna have to do more work or something like that.

B (56:34)

Yeah. That's. Wow, that's really interesting. Yeah. So I've just, like, my past few New Year's days are, like, me just, like, manifesting and, like, being, like, healthy. Like, spending the day, like, actually just having a whole day with, like, friends or whatever, you know, and, like, the beach has been obviously great as well.

A (56:52)

I love the first day of just, like, trying to eat healthy or just being healthy. Not trying to eat healthy, actually eating healthy that first, like, week or two.

B (56:58)

I have a lot of New Year's resolutions.

A (56:59)

You do? I'm here. Ye.

B (57:00)

Well, do you have any New Year's resolutions?

A (57:02)

No, I'm not doing this at a show yesterday, and I'm like, honestly, I don't. Like, I don't. But maybe if you tell me some, I'll, like, get inspired and think of something, because I actually don't know how it really works.

B (57:10)

One of them is definitely to stop shopping. Like that. That was a big one. Like, just secondhand or just less or only if you really need something for months. Like, that's dialing. Continuing. I've already started. But continuing to dial back, really locking in on a healthier eating habit and style.

A (57:28)

I think you do a pretty good job of that. That like, the best you can. Like, there's been times I've seen you where you're, like, really hardcore. Like, I cannot have gluten. I cannot have this.

B (57:35)

And that's. I go through these ebbs and flows, which is good that I'm at least trying. But there. There needs to be a. I think a medium that I stick to.

A (57:43)

Yeah.

B (57:44)

Across the year where maybe it's one day a week. I'm like having the day where I eat whatever I want and then the other like six days are gluten free and just like just getting groceries. Even that was one of my New Year's resolutions because I think that I always have this mindset of like, I'm leaving soon, which I like am. But at the same time, if you're home for 14 days. Days, it shouldn't be like, I don't want to go grocery shopping.

A (58:05)

Yeah. Even we do groceries like every day. Cuz we're like every couple days we need something fresh and new. Yeah.

B (58:09)

Yeah. Like, and instead of just like leaning on Uber Eats and fast food because I didn't get groceries because I like feel like I'm gonna leave. Like, no, you have some days here, like make some meals. Ashley's always cooking. Like, learn something from that or at least ask her to cook you some the groceries.

A (58:23)

Like, have you ever tried to learn cooking with her?

B (58:27)

Yes. I think everyone just gives up on me very quickly because of how like Ashley's very. Just like, just let me do it like, right.

A (58:33)

Which I love. I kind of love. Moses will be like that sometimes too. I'm like, okay.

B (58:36)

Honestly?

A (58:36)

Yeah.

B (58:36)

Yeah. I get treated like a toddler in the kitchen. It's like, oh, that's really sweet. Okay, go sit down, honey. Your food will be done soon. And I like, yeah, just different things like that. Those are great ones. Sleeping schedule and just insomnia. I need to focus on lots more doctor's appointments too. Like it literally like the top comment on things all the time. It's just like, Tana will do everything but see a damn doctor. And it's so true.

A (58:57)

When's the last time you saw a doctor this year? Have you seen one this year?

B (59:01)

I have a doctor, but it's very la. Like on call. And like just. It's so la. Like if I even explained it anymore, it's so. I love la. It's so like, it's not real life. And like even just all the gut problems, it's like just.

A (59:14)

Yeah.

B (59:14)

Prioritize your health. I'm getting all new teeth.

A (59:17)

Oh my gosh. When's that happening?

B (59:19)

In January. I have four surgeries. Like, oh, oh. A lot went wrong and it was like, I'm. I'm very upset about it. I think I'm to make a whole video about the journey of fixing the things that have happened to me.

A (59:33)

Your veneers.

B (59:34)

Yeah.

A (59:35)

Did to get them all replaced.

B (59:36)

Yeah. For like the sixth time. But it's more than that. I have to get all new gums. Yeah.

A (59:42)

How do you get new gums?

B (59:43)

I don't know. A gum specialist gets flown in from out of the country to like give me.

A (59:48)

Oh my gosh. When did you find all this out?

B (59:50)

I found this out a couple weeks ago. I went to see someone to really help me and I found out that a lot, lot more was wrong than what I knew. I knew that I lose veneers and I knew that that really sucks. And yeah, I knew there were a lot of problems, but it's a lot more than I thought and I'm really sad about it, honestly.

A (60:17)

Can you like not talk about you trying to do something gly with it or what?

B (60:20)

That's kind of. Can you tell? I'm like dancing around, like I'm dancing around the, the subject because I want to make sure that everything is said completely in the right way and done completely in the right way. Because I'm not trying to. I was, I'm very like upset honestly of what this is. But I just. Yeah, like I'm so upset that I want to make sure things are done and said the right way, I guess. And I just even. Brooke posted a tick tock today and I called her about this. She went in to the dentist and had the tiniest chip in her tooth from. From retainers around the back that were like put in. And the Los Angeles dentist immediately suggested to her that the fix for this tiny chip in one of her teeth was a full mouth of veneers. And I saw the tick tock and I was like, this is exactly why I want when I talk about this message to like this is exactly what I want. I cannot believe that like people are. This is the talking about you're the tiniest chip in your tooth and someone is telling you with full conviction that you should shave all of your teeth teeth down to nubs and cover them and do that. And then it's like. And that's what I fell victim to. And it's like I don't. I need to find out more if this is a problem just in like major hub cities like Los Angeles, New York and Miami or if this is everywhere. And I'm kind of thinking it is more just like a problem in the major hubs. But it's like people are getting their teeth shaved down not knowing anything about. And I'm people, you know what I mean? Not knowing anything about what can happen and then you're just like for life.

A (61:56)

Yeah. Cuz your teeth don't Grow back. Is that right? Yeah.

B (61:59)

Yeah. Like, no, that stay nubs. Yes, I. And, like, when I found out, kind of like, I. I essentially found out that, like, they might fall out forever. That, like. Like, no one can guarantee me that they won't. And so that's crazy. I'm. I'm, like, just besides myself. You know what I mean? Like, just, like, with a lot of things, too. There's a lot that's. That's, like, one of 10 things that I'm, like, beside myself about. And I just want to tell people, like, really don't fall for this propaganda that you see everywhere. Like, you know what I mean?

A (62:31)

Like, would you go back and like, that. I don't know what your teeth were like before. Like, did you need them or. It was more vanity.

B (62:36)

I think that I came in at a time before composite bonding and a lot of other options were as popularized. It seemed like it was like, braces or veneers. And like, even just seeing how much teeth I have left of my teeth because I saw my X rays for the first time, because to my knowledge, they only really have to shave down where your teeth overlap. Like, do you know what I mean? In order to put veneers over them. So I'm like, why do I have. Yours are pointy, like, tic tacs, like, smaller. Literally smaller. And I'm like, I didn't. Like, I wish I had known that saying, like, hey, how much are you going to shave down? And is this necessary? Necessary? And just there's not a lot of, like, there, especially at that time. Now there's a lot more, like, education on it. But it's still happening. It happened to Brooke today. What if she was, like, so naive that she thought, okay, the only solution for this is this. You know what I mean? And it's like, then you have no teeth, and some people have amazing stories with it. But, like, this is now something that I will have to deal with forever. I will never. I can never get my teeth back. You know what I mean? And there's so much more, too. Like, I want to tell you because it's so. But I'm like. I just. I'm trying to, like, wait.

A (63:51)

And the expense of it, because that's always what kind of got me, too, was like, the veneers, like, upkeeping the expense. I mean, first of all, they're super expensive. Yeah. And when everyone has. It's good to talk about it, because everybody does get veneers. And then you feel like, really, like, your teeth are disgusting because you don't have veneers. But I think you do a good job de influencing even when you show one missing. Right. When you like lose a tooth. Like, I'm so bad at keeping up with like if I break a nail. So like I couldn't even imagine if I lost a tooth. I'd be like so lazy to go get it fixed.

B (64:18)

I'm like feeling that feeling. It's because I've never lost a tooth in la, by the way. I don't know why. That's just some universe. God. I. And most of the time I've been in Hawaii or tropical destinations and then I'm like toothless and so far from home. And then like even just the things that I had been told from people, I'm like, oh, just super glue it back in. And it's like, that's crazy. What do you. In my mouth.

A (64:41)

You got me to superglue my mouth and I did.

B (64:43)

And like it just like, because, because my front tooth is missing and I'm like somewhere else, like really far. And like.

A (64:51)

No, that's a lot.

B (64:52)

And yeah, now I have. I'm trying to like fix. I'm fixing it to the best of my capability.

A (64:57)

Yeah.

B (64:57)

But like low key. I'm just a little for life. And it's like very disheartening. It's very like, I. That's. That's one of the only things. Things like where I wish I could really go back and be like, really don't. Yeah.

A (65:10)

You want to do it again?

B (65:11)

Yeah. Because it's like. And I'm very lucky to have money and like resources. Like, I also imagine how many people maybe like saved up to get veneers. And then it's like you don't have the money to like keep it going. Yes. And it's, it's not. Some people get them and they're fine for life. Okay. I'm not like, my case is not everyone's case, but like, just. Damn.

A (65:30)

Just if you think about it, don't. If you're on the fence, don't.

B (65:32)

Or do so much research. Research about what your future is going to look like, about how much of your teeth you're going to lose, about. I had to end up getting 10 root canals across because they were shaved to the point that like nerves and stuff were just like, you know, making me in a lot of pain.

A (65:46)

And like. Yeah, I've been dmf. I've always wanted them because I always just thought mine were like little and brittle. And I was like.

B (65:52)

But now we're in a great place where if you want to fix something, like Brooks Chip, for example, or something, there is composite bonding. People are learning more about that. But a lot of these dentists do just, like, want to give you vaccines. Veneers. And it's, like, crazy.

A (66:04)

I know. How they kind of, like, sucker you into doing something and then you're just, like, stuck with this decision. That. That is so many people right now. Yeah.

B (66:10)

I've even had friends tell me, like, I went into a dentist and they told me it would be $10,000 for Invisalign or they would do my veneers for, like, free for tags. You know what I mean? So it's like, of course the person's going to pick.

A (66:21)

Yeah.

B (66:22)

The like, you know, and it's like the free option.

A (66:25)

Yeah.

B (66:26)

Yes. Or like, and just like, oh, then my. That was me too. Too. It was like the selling point for me was the instant gratification. Like, oh, my smile will be fixed like this.

A (66:35)

Yeah. And they do look good. Like, I don't know.

B (66:37)

I don't know how they're all shifted and crooked. And they're shifting and they're crooked because I don't have enough tooth to hold doing that. That's crazy. It's like, Like, I wouldn't know if.

A (66:49)

You didn't tell me, but that's wild.

B (66:51)

It's just so.

A (66:52)

And you have to, like, deal with it. So that's happening in January.

B (66:54)

Yes.

A (66:55)

All right, well, next time we will take a.

B (66:57)

This was also the All About Me episode. Thanks.

A (67:01)

Like, I know, but we get a lot. You had a lot going on. You had your anniversary. You had the thing.

B (67:06)

But you're so sweet. Like, the interviewer in you comes out.

A (67:08)

I love. No, I'd rather talk. I like, you know, if I, like, talk about myself, I will if there's something happening. But I love talking you also.

B (67:13)

So much happening in the next. So thank you to anyone who came here for Trisha and watched and there was no Trisha. We love Trisha.

A (67:19)

I did three episodes of just Trish today. I'm like, I'm talked out of me. So I love talking with you. To me. I was like, yeah, let's talk about you.

B (67:25)

I appreciate your interest in me, in my life.

A (67:27)

No, of course, Course. I think you are the most interesting I love you thing in the world to me. Very talking about you. I think we talked about it before, but when you texted me, you're like, oh, I love this. I'm like, I could talk about you all day long and she's so fun.

B (67:38)

Every single time I come here, there's a new thing happening that she has collected like an infinity stone. She is so a list. Like, oh, my God. And she's not going Hollywood on me, which is really sweet.

A (67:46)

She totally. This is everything. This is. I know. Truly. I love doing this so much. I really do love doing it so much. We are just, like, so busy and we keep missing each other. I leave tomorrow for like a week, and then you leave for like a month. And then I'm like, well, we'll just.

B (67:57)

Yeah.

A (67:57)

Nurse each other, but know each other.

B (67:59)

After the holidays, I think we're gonna be in my surgery. We're gonna be really.

A (68:02)

All those teeth. Now I understand. I see what's. What's going on. Well, we'll figure it out. We'll always be here for you guys.

B (68:08)

Yes, we will. And we're gonna talk about Trisha and you guys in the next episode. Sorry.

A (68:13)

More importantly, you guys will go to patreon.com not loveline. Makoa and Tana did a Q. We'll probably do more of those over the festival. The festival? More those over the holiday. Me and Moses is going up this weekend, and then we do bonus episodes every day. Tomorrow is the day. Yes, Tomorrow's the day. I was like, okay, we're gonna. We're doing Christmas cards tomorrow. So I was like, I'll have my glam. So like, okay, we can do it. Yeah.

B (68:34)

That's so cute. Please send me one. I want one for my fridge.

A (68:37)

Of course. I'm gonna get your address in Hawaii.

B (68:39)

Yes. Oh, my God, please. It's actually so cute if I can put on my fridge in Hawaii. You gonna put a Christmas tree down there in Hawaii? Maybe. Or maybe like Christmas palm tree, something seashell.

A (68:48)

That's cute. I love it. Thank you guys for watching. Thank you, Tanum.

B (68:52)

I love you.

A (68:52)

I love you.

B (68:53)

I'm so sorry, guys. This was a lot about me. And thank you for caring.

A (68:56)

We're so silly. No, I'm feeling.

B (68:59)

Shut the up.

A (69:01)

People are here for you. I. Yeah, they're here for you.

B (69:03)

No, they're here for us. We love you and we're here for you in the next episode where we answer your calls.

A (69:08)

Bye. You're so funny.