CRASHING OUT, CATCHING UP, AND BABY FEVER!!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Not Loveline – "CRASHING OUT, CATCHING UP, AND BABY FEVER!!"

Release Date: August 4, 2025
Hosts: Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas
Description: NOT LOVELINE is a weekly love, sex, and dating call-in advice show with Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas, two hosts who are definitely NOT experts but do have a lot of experience.

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1. Personal Updates and Life Changes

Tana and Trish kick off the episode by sharing personal updates, highlighting significant changes in their lives. Tana mentions getting new veneers, humorously comparing her new look to celebrities and expressing excitement about her transformation.

Tana (02:28): "Tana getting new veneers, looking like Alex Earl."

Trish adds her own flair by discussing her appearances and how their looks have evolved, reinforcing their playful dynamic.

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2. Introducing Aquaman: Baby News and Naming Journey

A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to celebrating the birth of Trish's latest child, affectionately named Aquaman. The hosts delve into the creative process behind choosing this unique name, discussing alternative names and the significance they hold.

Trish (07:57): "It's Aquaman. And I couldn't sleep until like 7am because I was genuinely, like, giddy with excitement."

Tana reveals their runner-up name, "Water Snake," connecting it to personal interests and Moses's poetry, showcasing the thoughtful consideration that went into naming their son.

Tana (12:01): "Water Snake. Because Moses has a poem called Water Snake."

The conversation extends to how their other children, Malibu and Elvis, are adjusting to having a new sibling, highlighting the family's dynamic and supportive environment.

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3. Farewell to the Podcast Tour: Emotions and Reflections

As the podcast approaches the conclusion of its current phase, both hosts reflect on the emotional journey of ending their extensive tour. They discuss the bond formed through touring, describing it as a "trauma bond," where they've shared countless shows and supported each other through highs and lows.

Trish (25:06): "Tour was good. I think I'm just like, I needed, like, some months to sleep."

Tana echoes these sentiments, expressing a mix of sadness and relief, recognizing the end of an era but also looking forward to new beginnings.

Tana (27:18): "It's right, you know what I mean? Where you just, like, listen to your heart and, like, where you want to go with it and stuff."

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4. Mental Health and Emotional Well-being

The hosts candidly discuss their experiences with mental health, particularly focusing on postpartum depression and the emotional challenges that come with motherhood. Trish opens up about feeling the "baby blues" and the importance of seeking professional help to navigate these feelings.

Trish (74:50): "I'm heavy on crying these days, so maybe that's why I'm saying this."

Tana shares her own struggles, including feelings of depression related to not meeting expectations despite having what she perceives as a perfect life. They emphasize the importance of emotional awareness and validating their feelings without judgment.

Tana (75:33): "Like, what you're feeling is so good. So, Tana, though, is like just Tana. There's no one else name named."

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5. Consumerism and Shopping Habits

A lighthearted yet introspective segment explores their shopping habits and consumerism. Both hosts admit to struggling with shopping addictions, discussing their efforts to manage these impulses through platforms like Depop to sell unused items.

Trish (99:40): "I've been trying to sell my clothes on Depop though. Like get back into that. So at least I feel like there's like a cycle."

Tana reflects on her past as a shopping addict, acknowledging the challenges of breaking free from compulsive buying despite her financial stability.

Tana (99:17): "I just think over time it'll like stop. I don't know. I'm also like a food addict."

They discuss strategies for balancing their love for fashion and possessions with the desire to lead a more minimalist lifestyle, recognizing the personal and emotional ties to their shopping behaviors.

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6. AI Influencers and the Future of Social Media

The hosts delve into the burgeoning phenomenon of AI influencers, recounting Trish's experiences with AI-driven personas and the ethical implications surrounding them. Trish shares anecdotes about being paid to "hang out" with AI influencers, only to discover later that the interactions were fabricated through digital manipulation.

Trish (52:07): "I went to lunch with an AI influencer... they superimposed the AI influencer into the photo."

Tana and Trish express concerns about authenticity and the blurring lines between real and virtual interactions, pondering the future landscape of social media dominated by AI personalities.

Tana (57:26): "It's so scary. And it's cool. But also it's like, I don't know, I'm kind of like."

Their conversation highlights the challenges of maintaining genuine connections in an increasingly digital world, raising questions about the role of AI in personal relationships and influencer culture.

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7. Interactions with Fans: Listener Call-In

Towards the episode's end, a heartfelt call from a listener named Lily congratulates Trish on the birth of Aquaman and inquires about the family's adjustment to their new addition. This segment underscores the personal connection the hosts maintain with their audience, fostering a sense of community and support.

Caller Lily (71:51): "Congratulations on your baby, Aquaman. I'm so in love. He's so cute. I love his name."

Tana responds with gratitude, emphasizing the importance of fan interactions and how such moments validate their efforts and personal experiences shared on the podcast.

Trish (73:14): "It's like, literally gonna have the best life. Like, that's just like."

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8. Closing Reflections and Future Plans

In their closing moments, Tana and Trish reflect on the transformative phase they're entering, moving away from the high-octane podcast format to a more intentional and balanced lifestyle. They express optimism about embracing new beginnings, focusing on family, and managing their emotional well-being.

Trish (75:18): "Like, you're very business. Because we're thinking, like, our franchise is such a sickening show."

Tana echoes the sentiment, highlighting the relief that comes with stepping back from the pressures of constantly generating content, and looks forward to nurturing their personal lives and relationships.

Tana (96:59): "You know, you're in the podcast position. I'm dumb."

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Notable Quotes

• Tana (07:57): "It's Aquaman. And I couldn't sleep until like 7am because I was genuinely, like, giddy with excitement."

• Trish (25:06): "Tour was good. I think I'm just like, I needed, like, some months to sleep."

• Tana (75:33): "Like, what you're feeling is so good. So, Tana, though, is like just Tana. There's no one else name named."

• Trish (99:40): "I've been trying to sell my clothes on Depop though. Like get back into that. So at least I feel like there's like a cycle."

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Conclusion

In this episode of Not Loveline, Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas offer listeners an intimate glimpse into their personal lives, from celebrating new family additions to grappling with mental health challenges and the evolving landscape of social media. Their candid conversations and shared experiences foster a relatable and engaging atmosphere, cementing their bond with their audience while navigating significant life transitions.

Transcript

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JoJo Siwa's mom was bleaching her hair blonde at one and a half years old. Yeah. And she was talking. Both of them were talking about it recently. You went to lunch with an AI influencer.

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So, like, they would pay me and I would show up to the paparazzi would come and like all of that. Right.

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What do you think? You chalk it up to, like, how do you.

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Insanity.

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Are we going? Okay. What a way to start. I love it. We've already been talking for two hours.

[B]

We can't stop.

[A]

I know. It's like, how did we not record all that? Just everything. There's so much happening. Tana getting new veneers, looking like Alex Earl. She looks like the world.

[B]

Alex Earl. I said giving birth made you blind.

[A]

You look.

[B]

So when they took out your C section, did they also take out your cornea?

[A]

I always say that. I'm like, I really feel like I got like a lobotomy during my C section. Like, that's how I feel. I see the world differently. Swear. I swear. And I literally look at you. I'm not even kidding. I was like, you look like a Victoria Sigurd.

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Yeah. You see the world differently.

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The colors were giving Miami Dolphins. I was like, oh, Alex Earl, that's.

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What you look like. We're giving Bron Baros realness. I support him. I love her. She. Did you see her, like, she posted that her co star app told her that she could expose tea and then everyone thinks she's feuding with Alex Cooper and that she's going to like, give the tea on Alex Cooper.

[A]

No. What? I saw the TikTok. I thought it was like her co star in A movie. What's co star?

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No costar. That's iconic.

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My co star said I could say. And I was like, who's your co star? I thought, I'm like, Happy Gilmore or something.

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No, it's just Adam Sandler Flex.

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We have to talk about. I know. Wait. Before we jump into anything, though, we need to talk about Patreon and our ads. Not our ads. Well, ads. We have three ads.

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We're so back.

[A]

We're so back, baby. We had, like, one day to get this out. You guys are seeing this so fresh. We're filming this on a Sunday to get out on a Monday. You guys are seeing the freshest of the fresh. Oh, my God.

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Hey, guys.

[A]

And we were not gonna have any time to film this. I'm like, well, we missed one week. And so now we have three ads. And I'm like, shout out Tinder. Just buying the whole month. So shout out Tinder.

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We're so sponsored.

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So sponsored.

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And this is so cool because normally we, like, stack a billion episodes and.

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We'Re just here and, like, just giving one quality Wednesday. One quality one. And then one quality one for Patreon. Because, patrons, you've been amazing, too, giving birth and stuff. I was not able to upload. We weren't able to record for Patreon our last two weeks. So we're giving you a. An extra long today here on YouTube. Extra long. Everyone's getting extra long. Everything so extra long.

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Daddy, no. We're so back. We're literally neighbors. I live here. Aquaman's out. Like, we're.

[A]

You keep saying this as. I thought you, like, bought a house here in the neighborhood. You're like, we're neighbors now. And I was like, what does that mean?

[B]

Just like, we're neighbors.

[A]

We're in la.

[B]

Yeah, okay, but, like, we're close. We're not far. I love my little drive over.

[A]

Right? We're closer than we were. But patreon.com not loveline. Let's get that out there.

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Oh, my God.

[A]

Thank you guys for being there.

[B]

Yeah. We love our patrons so much, and I'm so excited to do one I, like, miss. I, like, love doing not Loveline in general. I miss it so much. But the Patreon's just so fun.

[A]

I've got so many gross detail stories to share on there.

[B]

Me too. I can't wait.

[A]

And then also, if you. If you want to call, we can take some fresh calls. We have, like, how many? 3,000 calls. 14,000. 14,000 calls.

[B]

I love you traumatized like that's. So iconic.

[A]

And 14,000. We were just talking about this before. Our Christmas show at the forum is 18,000, so we only need 4,000 more people to buy tickets.

[B]

Trisha and I are on a manifestation moment right now. We want to sell out the Forum Los Angeles. And you can comment down below the percentage of likeliness. You think that that is one show.

[A]

Only for real this year. And it would only be in Los Angeles. But we're thinking, like, Forum Christmas Spectacular. We'll do like, a whole Valentine's Day.

[B]

If we need to sell tickets longer.

[A]

I think both. I think we should really do Christmas one show only.

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You go.

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I think both.

[B]

It's so funny. I've been back for five days and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm just so happy to be home. Like, no more shows. Whatever. I get to Trisha's and we're like, so should we do the Forum? It's like, I'm Benson Boone and I'm gonna backflip.

[A]

We could get Benson Boone to come be a guest.

[B]

To get Benson Boone.

[A]

Did you know him at one point? Yeah, yeah.

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I'm asking him. Hey, Benson, are you free? We should do a one show. That'd be so fun.

[A]

Okay, but only the Forum.

[B]

Well, Angels, because not Loveline is such a sickening show. It should be one show. I agree. Only at the Forum, but just a sickening show format. Like, all the girlies come and write in and we'll just like, yeah, the advice. Makoa and Moses are going to be held on stage hostage.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. So intense.

[B]

Yeah, I shouldn't say that.

[A]

So get your tickets today at the imaginary link below. It's going to happen.

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Let us know. Seriously, the likeliness of you thinking we could sell out the Forum in the comments below.

[A]

We go on a tour, we're like, let's sell out the Forum. I'm dumb.

[B]

And honestly, it would be arguably more iconic if we super undersold the Forum. Like, if we have like, a thousand people.

[A]

That doesn't sound iconic. That sounds sad.

[B]

Did you ever see, like, who was. It was like, Camila Cabello.

[A]

Oh, right. But I think it was her. Sound check. Oh, everyone on Hot Topics, we were talking about this tooth. They did it with JLO and Nelly, too. It was like Nelly was at, like, the Staples center and it was like, 50 people. But I think it's, like, the soundtrack. So anytime I would do my meet and greet, I remember I would, like, film it and pretend like, that was, like, my crowd. And the amount of people on TikTok would be like, they're so funny. Yeah. They're like, that's so sad. Only, like, I would, like, only 100 people showed up.

[B]

And it's like when I'm explaining you to, like, street people, like, that's one of the things I need to add in there when I'm saying like, she's a genius.

[A]

You are so funny. I love how to. When I gave birth, you were like, something. I don't know what you said. You said something about the name and it's like I forgot what it was. And you're something like, you are such a genius. And I was like, I don't know if I'm a genius. I was just more going through, like, depression.

[B]

No, you're just. You're an icon, you. And you're so smart. It's just everything, the whole thing, I just like. And it's so funny too, because people like, we do have this beautiful friendship that I love so much. But obviously, like, you're giving birth, I'm going to let you do your thing, like, go do your thing like with Moses and the family, like, whatever. And my comments, like, I could have posted with a missing arm and they would have been like, where is. She's fine. Let her be.

[A]

You leaked the name and Paige's blog. Yeah. They were like, what did you call? What do you think it was?

[B]

It was people clipping it. Because I was just doing this bit like, all around all of Australia where every time I'm talking about your baby and you could see it across her whole vlog and like other videos and stuff. I was just saying like, Poseidon and Jaws and all these like, things. I thought it could be. Mo and I were like, speculating. And then people take one clip of me saying, like, what about this for Poseidon? And I was like, oh, you mother.

[A]

What if it was Poseidon? That would have been so crazy.

[B]

I would have been like, I'm that so raven.

[A]

That would have been cool. Yeah. If you would have predicted it.

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Yeah. Because I obviously, I didn't want to know. I would never want to know for that reason, like the. Of potentially slipping it and whatever. But I can't even tell you I found out that you named the baby Aquaman. I was in the premiere live watching, literally with the people. I was watching the premiere, but it was like 4:30 in the morning, Australia time. And so I'm laying there in the pitch black. Mako was like, dozing off and I'm like, get up.

[A]

It's Aquaman.

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And I couldn't sleep until like 7am Because I was genuinely, like, giddy with excitement. Like, it's better than anything I thought it could have been. And I think it's so iconic.

[A]

Thank you. Yeah. I love. I truly love the name. So clearly I'm this. Tell me this backstory. Like, how did you get it so fast?

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I have some gifts for you.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Is this vintage? Is this real vintage?

[B]

No.

[A]

I'll tell you, this is like, so iconic. Did you see Moses? Did you see him today? I haven't seen Moses be like, gagged for that.

[B]

It's funny, cuz I walked out and I was like, where's Moses? And I was like, I'm probably taking care of three kids. Let yourself in.

[A]

Exactly. And we rescheduled from yesterday today, so we didn't have any, like, money to help out. And I was just like, someone says, like, can you help? We have like three under three right now that we like.

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You guys.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

You, like, wrapped them well, Isabella helped.

[A]

Me because she's so cute. I know. I can't wrap a gift to save my life. If there's ever anything wrapped, it's okay.

[B]

This is so cute. Oh, okay. Yeah, I know what everything is. We should take a picture.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Okay.

[B]

How sweet. Because I did that little bit of pink. Because Aquaman's still our girl.

[A]

Yes, of course. Oh, my God. Wait. This is like, so cute.

[B]

And I had so much fun. Wait.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. I feel like it's a baby shower. This is so cute. Oh, my gosh.

[B]

I was Australian, so I had to do it late.

[A]

Thanks. I didn't even have one. This is my only baby shower, so thank you. Look so good. Yay, Sienna. She brought baby shower gifts. It's so cute. Oh, my gosh. I love it. Okay, should I open them? Oh, my gosh.

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Yes, yes, yes.

[A]

I don't even know how to act when people give me gifts. Like, it's so. I'm so.

[B]

You're so funny.

[A]

I'm so excited. I start with anything. Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I love that goes. This is so. I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna cry. Stop.

[B]

I'm so excited.

[A]

So nice. And shout out.

[B]

This is literally like me being sick for the past week. I was like, I can't wait to be well and give Trisha gift.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

This is.

[A]

This is so. You also look like Britney Spears right now too, when you just said that I was gonna be Britney Spears. You look so pretty. Like, I don't know, like, the last two times I've seen you, I'm just like, oh, my gosh. We just love each other.

[B]

We just haven't seen each other.

[A]

No, you're glowing. You're glowing. I'm like, wow, Okay.

[B]

I love you.

[A]

Wait, this is so cute. Did you say Isabella? Isabelle.

[B]

Isabelle helps you. She's the woman of the house.

[A]

I love.

[B]

That's real.

[A]

Wait, I need to go put this on right now. Isn't it so cute? Matching.

[B]

So cute.

[A]

How.

[B]

How did you get Amazon? I was deep, but I was deep on Amazon.

[A]

I bought, like, every Aquaman shirt I could find. And I.

[B]

No, I was. I was on, like, page 17 of Amazon looking at Aquaman gear, and these are my favorite.

[A]

Wait, no, this is.

[B]

Because I feel like this is so.

[A]

Cute and they look like real vintage. That's the thing.

[B]

Like, it looks like it's like a vibe, right?

[A]

Yeah. I was like, wait, where did you get that so quick? I was seeing.

[B]

And Makoa loves the name so much, too. Like, that's our little Aquaman.

[A]

Oh, my God, that is. I know. I did think about you guys because, I mean, obviously he's just so, like, Hawaiian and ocean and everything like that. Because you guys see, like, Jaws. I was like, that is kind of iconic.

[B]

Jaws is iconic. We put it on our list. Honestly, it's so good.

[A]

I never thought about that until everyone gave the suggestion. And I was like, wait, that's kind of good. But we already had Aquaman man, like, printed everywhere. Like, for the hat and everything.

[B]

Sweeter and happier. I think it has a more positive connotation and like, yes.

[A]

You know, it had ties to both me and Moses because he has, like, Aquaman in his water museum. And I, like, had an Aquaman phase.

[B]

Oh, I know everything.

[A]

We're kind of actually, weirdly Aquaman. No. Jason Momoa, the guy who plays Aquaman, he has, like, a new show. Did you see it? It's Hawaiian. They all speak. I think they speak Hawaiian.

[B]

Was just posting about this because I think they actually filmed in Hawaii. Yeah. Or like, we're talking. I need to watch it.

[A]

I think they filmed in Maui. He talks about Maui in the beginning of it. Where. That's, like, where his thing is from. And I. They speak only in. I don't know if it's Hawaiian, but obviously some pigeon maybe is that they're, like, native language.

[B]

I need to watch.

[A]

It's like, all subtitles. Oh, my crazy. Anyways, I thought of. The whole point of that is I thought of Makoa and you. And I was like, oh, my God, that could be you guys.

[B]

And we're gonna take Aquaman to Maui.

[A]

Absolutely. Like, we are definitely like, oh, I love the name Maui. Anyways. Okay. I feel like he's gonna be.

[B]

And he's a cancer.

[A]

He's cancer. Yeah.

[B]

He's a cancer named Aquaman.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you know his, like, Water Rising and all the other ones.

[A]

Someone knows. He's born 12:40am on July 12 and in thousand Oaks, California. So I don't know if someone wants to do it. I don't know it.

[B]

Do it now.

[A]

But the cancer. We were gonna call him. The second name was Water Snake. Because Moses has a poem called Water Snake.

[B]

No way.

[A]

And he's a water sign, and it's Year of the Snake. So we were gonna go with, like, Water Snake. And it was a poem Moses wrote, like, 10 years ago. That's, like, on YouTube. It's, like, published 10. And we're gonna do it for that reason. But I like.

[B]

But I like Aquaman more, and I think it's just iconic. Malibu Elvis. Aquaman.

[A]

Thank you. I'm so happy you said that, because.

[B]

I'm telling you people, by the way.

[A]

I'm spiraling for a minute. I'm not gonna lie, first of all.

[B]

Really, that, like, makes me so sad, because it's like, to me, I don't know. I think that for people to genuinely be up in arms about that. And Moses hit the nail on the head when he said, like, truly, like, if your first thought is that someone's gonna get bullied. Are you the bully?

[A]

Yeah. That I totally agree with, because I'm like, that's wild. That's. Everyone's first thought is like, he's gonna get bullied. I'm like, by an. Also, we live in Los Angeles.

[B]

Aquaman is gonna be going to school with Bookshelf and table and apple and blueberry muffin.

[A]

Like, what the. No, serious. I do agree with you on that. Obviously, Narrator Smith. Names come up, like Honey Rumble and stuff like that. Honey Rumble's gonna be.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

But Francesca, too, I think she has, like, poetry and lyric as her babies. It is just like the world we live in now. People just give fun names that aren't your general names.

[B]

Also, you're the most open, like, honest. Like, I'm imagining you as a mom. Your child could be like, I'm gonna go by telephone now. And you're gonna be like, hell, yeah. Telephone.

[A]

Yeah, right. Let's go.

[B]

Like, if they wanted to do anything different, they could Also like your babies. I wish that people could, like, come into your world. Well, I don't, but, like, for a second and just see how iconic it is here. Like, all the bedazzled stuff everywhere and all the love in the house. And, like, just like, having Trisha Paytas as a mother is truly so iconic. There's so much lore already, like Aquaman, like a fun addition to this amazing, beautiful, fun world that they're being born into.

[A]

Yeah. That's how we imagine Trisha Paytas. Name this.

[B]

Maybe Brad. Okay. Like Brad and Chad Betis.

[A]

Oh, my. Brad and Chad. That'd be cute, I guess. Yeah, it's just like.

[B]

It's no, like. Yeah, duh. And I just like it. People have too much time on their hands.

[A]

I just love a. I just love a unique name, you know, 100. And Aquaman is like water human, you know, and that's where we came out with it from. And Aquaman is cool because he does. He's not like a mermaid. You know, he has, like, legs and he breathes under the water, which I thought was cool too. Anyways, we. We love the name. I was. I thought everyone was going to love. I'm like, oh, my God, we ate so hard. And the fact that you all want to name our kid Titanic. Yeah. Aquaman is worse than Titanic. Like a big ship.

[B]

And there's just real things to genuinely worry about other than a baby icon. Baby icon name. Okay. An icon baby who literally already has an iconic. I was gonna go into the baby's net worth, but I'll stop. It's just people are mad for no reason. Okay. And I love Aquaman.

[A]

I'm gonna switch into this really, really fast. Oh, my God. Okay. I love it because I was like.

[B]

Goddess coast sun, his moon is rising.

[A]

Okay, let me hear it.

[B]

What are they? Wait. Sun is Cancer. Moon is Aquarius. It's Makoa's an Aquarius. And that's water.

[A]

Is it a water sign?

[B]

Yes. What's the third one?

[A]

Ascendant. Oh, that's probably rising.

[B]

Air is. Is Aries an air sign?

[A]

Aries Sounds like an air sign.

[B]

Sounds like. Sounds like air, but like two water, Cancer and Aquarius. Oh, my gosh. Oh, a little fire.

[A]

You're triple water, right?

[B]

Yeah. Cancer, cancer, cancer, cancer.

[A]

Okay, I'll take Aquarius. That's very Aquaman. That's very.

[B]

So what if Aquaman's like the next Michael Phelps, right? Like, what if he loves being swim?

[A]

I guess that would be me too, but I guess there's some Irony, like you said, about selling a thousand tickets at the Forum. It'd be kind of, like, weird if, like, Aquaman couldn't SW him.

[B]

Yeah, no, he's gonna be such a good swimmer. That'd just be really cool if for some reason, naturally, obviously, just, like, he fell into a passion with water.

[A]

I think that's gonna happen.

[B]

And then it was like, he's, like, a really good swimmer, and his name's Aquaman. Like, that's so iconic.

[A]

I think that'll happen. Moses, like, genuinely loves water. Like, he, like, loves. Like, he has to be by water. We have, like, a lake here that we go to all the time. Like, he has to be by water. And I feel like it just will naturally happen for Aquaman and all our babies. They love the pool. But I was swimming with Aquaman when I went into labor, so I do feel like that is. And my water broke, and it never broke. And it was gush. Water was gushing for hours on the way to the hospital and just everywhere. So that's kind of weird. Yeah. Of people's water break. So, like, people's water usually don't break.

[B]

You're lying anyway. And you were swimming. No, that's, like, that. I'm just like. That's, like, kind of wild to me. You know, Me and my, like, synchronicity. Like, it has to be.

[A]

Yeah, that's how we feel, too. It's like. I know. It's so silly because Mo said on the podcast, like, yeah, we were watching. Because we started watching the Aquaman movies, and he's like. It just felt like watching our kid.

[B]

That's iconic. Okay, so this. I die.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I literally die.

[A]

Wait, really? I love. I'm really bad at gift giving. So, like, this is, like.

[B]

No, this is for Aquaman. Okay.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited. Wow. Oh, I was giving Jennifer foolish.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

This is so nice.

[B]

Oh, my God. No, it's so cute. So it's awesome.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Wow. Well, I did that.

[B]

I did something similar for Malibu. I lowkey skipped Elvis. I gotta get on that.

[A]

Everyone has said that, too. I did labor and delivery stories for Malibu and Aquaman, and they're, like. They're, like, so middle child, and I have, like, a middle story time for that. I'm a middle child, and we. I thrived, so I think she will thrive.

[B]

Okay. Oh, this is Aquaman's first Fendi baguette.

[A]

Baby baguette. I love weirdos. Put it on his little onesie. How cute is that?

[B]

Wait, that's why to me. Does it kind of give, like the belt? Oh, God, it does. Which is just gag to me.

[A]

This will be on his Halloween costume. We'll do the little thing. Oh, my gosh. I love that you got the original Aquaman, too, because we really. Our Aquaman is blonde, so I do think he's gonna look more like this Aquaman. So I do love it with that. So.

[B]

And isn't that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was in Fendi, and I was like, what do you have for a baby? Baby in the Fendi store? I was like, bring me baby's first baguette.

[A]

I'm getting.

[B]

Tell me that's not what you were shopping for.

[A]

In Paige's vlog, you said something like, we're gonna get it for Poseidon Paytas.

[B]

Oh, no, we were in Gucci, but this was better.

[A]

Okay. I am obsessed.

[B]

And you know what has a little, like, peely on it?

[A]

Malibu. I love these things. Malibu loves product bag. She does wear it all the time. I always want to take pictures of it, but I'm always, like, people gonna think like, oh, my God, why is she so bougie with the product? I'm like, it came from Auntie Hannah, not me.

[B]

Now I just gotta get Elvis, like, some Cartier.

[A]

Seriously, they'll inherit everything. Oh, yeah, this. Oh, yeah. This is, like, so cute.

[B]

And it's just so cute.

[A]

I love the shoes out of it because of the belt and the golden's, like, so.

[B]

Yeah, it's so awesome. Honestly, it ended up lucking out because I didn't know the name when I bought it, but then I was like, that's so Aquaman.

[A]

Oh, my God, that's so funny. Yeah, it actually does fit really well.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I love that you just thought of gold then for it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I was like, that's so bouge.

[B]

O Aquaman's first Fendi baguette.

[A]

I'll put it on him. Like a little Aquaman onesie. We'll put this, like, right there where his, like, belt is.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

This is, like, literally too much.

[B]

It's. No. It's so iconic.

[A]

What is it even meant for?

[B]

Normally, people put it on, like, purses.

[A]

Like a little bag on a bag.

[B]

Yeah. Which you could obviously do if you wanted, like, a real, like, more functionality to it.

[A]

But no, I'm gonna put it on him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm gonna put it on his little onesie. That's literally so cute. Once we dress him up and take him out of the house.

[B]

I was gagged. I was like, aquaman's first Fendi.

[A]

So cute. Thank you so much.

[B]

This one's just kind of silly.

[A]

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[A]

Love you, Tinder. That does sound fun. Oh, my gosh. This is amazing.

[B]

But how cute are these? They're gonna be too big, I think right now.

[A]

But is it for Aquaman?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Well, I was shopping in Sydney and I saw these clothes.

[A]

Wait, it might fit them. What size are they?

[B]

I think.

[A]

Okay. Well, yeah, like a year little.

[B]

The little. Good eye.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's so cute.

[A]

I want to go to Australia. Oh, my God. That's so cool.

[B]

And then look at that. Oh.

[A]

Because he knew it was ocean theme. How did you not know it was Aquaman with all these oceans?

[B]

No, I knew I knew Aquaman at this point. This was like towards the end of the trip.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Isn't that so cute?

[A]

Little mask.

[B]

He's gonna die. He's gonna.

[A]

Oh, my God. This is like a little hole Halloween costume.

[B]

I know how cute is.

[A]

Oh, my God. Thank you. So much.

[B]

When I saw that in the store, like, the lady thought I was crazy. I was like, they were buy three, get one free. I was like, get more shirts.

[A]

We need this. Did you get more? Did you get one for your future? You had one.

[B]

I didn't get any for my future babies.

[A]

I should start doing that for future Junior.

[B]

I know. It's funny because I was just ordering them for me. I ordered flip flops, but they were like. It said size 9, and I was like, hell, yeah, that's my size. And then it was like, a toddler size 9.

[A]

But don't you think that, like, when you think about synchronicities and, like, meant to be, don't you think, like, wait, is this.

[B]

I know. That's.

[A]

I commented. I was like, wait, because you're like, is this a sign? I'm like, is this a sign?

[B]

I know. Isn't that kind of crazy? That's why, like, when I opened them up, I was like, what? The Ed Makoa's Brazilian. So I was like, they have the little Brazil flag on them. And I was like, oh, this is kind of.

[A]

So that's one thing that's kind of, like, weird.

[B]

Yeah. And then I was like, should I give them to Aquaman? Like, this is not my time. But we decided to save them.

[A]

It was definitely meant for Baby Jaws.

[B]

Yeah. Baby Jaws. Baby Jaws.

[A]

That was so. No, that was actually, like, the cutest thing I saw that. I was like, oh, my God. That's actually kind of meant to be.

[B]

I thought that was like, so You've been inspiring me so much with the names, though. My baby name list is getting diabolical more because I think that you're just like. It is so cool to, like. You know what I was thinking about, too? Is that, like, societally, how weird is it, right, that, like, someone's named John and then just hella other people are named John, right? And then, like, in class, there's, like, John R and John S and John M. Like, that's arguably weirder than naming your kids something that no one else has named.

[A]

Like, just right, because no one wants you to, like, steal the baby name. So it's like, what do you mean? I'm gonna just name it after. Of course there's 5,000 Johns out there.

[B]

Like, I wouldn't want to name my child something where they're gonna be in a class and they're gonna be, like, one of four.

[A]

That's exactly how I felt. And I also felt like, I don't want to name it after someone I know. Or like, there's, you know, I didn't want there to even be like, oh, wow, that's actually your ex boyfriend's cousin's name or something, you know, like, I wanted it to be like, so I.

[B]

Have to look out for that as.

[A]

Well, because it's like, people are annoying. It's like that with birthdays too. Is like, oh, my God. Well, that birthday is. It's like, oh, my gosh. It's crazy. Crazy.

[B]

Yeah. Like, you want it. Like, it's arguably cooler that, like. Yeah, I liked that growing up. Yeah. That I like. Yeah. Or I didn't like it growing up, but I like it now, like, looking back. You know what I mean?

[A]

You like your name? I never like Trisha. I never liked it.

[B]

Really? But you're so Trisha now.

[A]

I mean, I still hate it, but.

[B]

Like, because you're Trisha Paytas, like, it's iconic. Even if I meet someone and they're like, hi, my name's Trisha, it doesn't register the same thing in my brain as when I, like, I'm talking about you or hear your name.

[A]

Okay, I like that. Tana, though, is like just Tana. There's no one else name named.

[B]

There are, except for Gordon Ramsay's wife.

[A]

Her name is Hannah.

[B]

Tana Ramsay. I'm coming for the.

[A]

Oh, my God. That's crazy.

[B]

You should start shopping.

[A]

Is she a chef too?

[B]

I think. I don't know.

[A]

Tana Ramsay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. I love that.

[B]

We love that for her. I share it with her.

[A]

Wait, okay, so we were talking earlier. We, like, went, what were we talking about? Co star.

[B]

Oh, co star. Alex Earl Co Star is like this app where you put in your birth time, same thing, and then it tells you astrologically your do's and don'ts, like, for the day.

[A]

That's what we just did with Aquaman. So it's like. It's like an astrology app.

[B]

Yes, but costar was listening.

[A]

People listening.

[B]

No, Giving people too heinous of things based on, like, nothing. I think so. Like, it's like, with a grain of salt. You know what I mean?

[A]

They probably should put, like, for entertainment purposes or something.

[B]

Yeah. Like, mine says, my today dues are keepsakes, nesting and tinctures.

[A]

Wait, what?

[B]

I don't know. Tinctures Don'ts or comparisons. Avoidance and a cuissing.

[A]

What's a queasing?

[B]

I don't know. Should we look it up?

[A]

Crazy. What a crazy language.

[B]

Like acquisition. There's a Q in there. I don't know, let's see.

[A]

You've been doing a lot of acquisitions lately, I feel.

[B]

Have I been?

[A]

You're very business.

[B]

Let's see.

[A]

You've got such a big week coming up. I'm so excited. Oh, my God, we Gotta talk about YouTube, dude.

[B]

Well, I mean, I'm just so happy to be home. It's nice.

[A]

I have so much to ask you about because you've literally been touring. I mean, you can look up acquisitions. Was that true? If you want. You don't have to.

[B]

It was to. It was to accept something reluctantly, but without protest chest. Oh, I'd be doing that.

[A]

Acquiesce. What was the word? A quesing. Doesn't matter.

[B]

Aquaman.

[A]

We'll just go with that. AQI Wait. So. Okay. So, so much happening with you. You just came back from tour. You have, like, a really big week, too.

[B]

I do. Tour was. Tour was good. I mean, I think I'm just like. I needed, like, some months to sleep. That's really all it is. You know, it was very emotional. Like. Like, even our last show, we just cried a lot because I think it's like a very crazy thing to be like. And I just found myself even looking across that brook during the shows and kind of being like, wow, I've done this for now over a hundred shows with you, you know, and like, having that person to do that with, like, touring is a very crazy, almost like trauma bond, you know what I mean? Where it's like, oh, my God, I feel sick today. So you're gonna carry, like, the energy or vice versa, you know what I mean? Like, I can shut the up on stage for 20 minutes while you talk, like, that's wild. That's a wild, like, thing. And I just was like, wow. Like, it was just very emotional being like, this is the end of this era and this, you know, and like, it feels right. Even the stories we were telling, it very much felt like this is the last time I'm gonna tell a story about, like, a messy ex in this way. You know what I mean? Like, this is the end of an era which. And it's so wild how, like, two things can be true, you know, like, just like, I. I know it has to end and I know what is right for the both and what the future, what I think it's going to look like. But it doesn't make it not sad, of course. And her and I keep talking about the fact that too, like, canceled has now been ending for like two months, which is like, it's like breaking up with your boyfriend every day for two months, you know what I mean? And, like, still having. Obviously, like, we're not fighting. I'm just saying, like, you know what I mean? It'd be one thing if it was like a clean. It's like sad, like, every day it's like, oh, my God, like, this is the end.

[A]

It's coming to the end. Yeah.

[B]

And just like.

[A]

Like, I think. No, I. I think that is what's hard. I mean, a lot of people, because you are leaving too. Like, you're talking about before we talked about before we started filming was like, leaving it on, like, a top two. Like, you're leaving with so many views, so many fans, and it's like to leave something when it's like, at the top, I mean, sometimes it's just the way to go, you know what I mean? Where you just, like, listen to your heart and, like, where you want to go with it and stuff. And you both are. When you said the thing about story times, like, it's like you're also saying that at the beginning, how you feel so relieved not to be messy for people to find you entertaining or that want to follow you. So it's like, like, all the stories you guys talk about, all the people you talk about, it's like such an end of an era for you, you know?

[B]

Yeah. I feel finally. I finally, like, just for so long thought I would only succeed if I was this 20% of my personality that, like, I blew up for or was known for. And I'm very excited, you know, to see how loving and amazing my fans are and that they're down for any journey and just excited to like, explore the other facets and stuff. And that's like, the numbers. Like, I think that for so long I was like, what can we talk about? What is the title we need? 2 million views an episode. This. That you place your worth in that and you, like, go crazy and like. And like, Like, I don't give a. If whatever I do next is getting 1/6 of what canceled got. I think that I will be receiving so much more because I'll be in a better headspace.

[A]

I think that is, like, the big part of it is not having to worry about numbers once you stop worrying about. Because that's how I felt too. It's like when you leave something that's big or like anything, any big group. I was a part of, like, Shane or David, and I was like, oh, man, they're probably, like, laughing at me that I don't get, like, A million views anymore. But it's like once you, like, let that go, it, like, it just. Just feels better and more. We were talking about this. Even how this is, like, between everything we do is our lowest feed one. But shout out to the people that love this. Because we were saying the people who do watch, they, like, love it. They're so Trisha.

[B]

We will talk about not Loveline. Like, it's like this basement session that, like, 10 lucky fans have come to. And then it's like, anytime we go anywhere, people are stopping us on the street being like, I love not Loveline.

[A]

And we're like, they wear, like, leopard. Like, even to my shows underwear. I was like, there was, like, leopard everywhere. Like, I love. And, like, yeah, people on the street, literally, you'll be like, oh, my God, I love not limelighting with you and Dana. It's like, wait, that's so. That's so Corey. I see top podcasts. People like, these are my top podcasts. And they'll have, like, not love. And they're like, wow.

[B]

Thank you. Yes. It just. It makes me so happy. It makes me especially. Because this format, I don't know, it feels cool. We talk about this a lot, you and I, but, like, it makes our traumas feel useful in some episodes. Like, we. I was watching a clip of one of the last ones we filmed where we are giving a girl advice about leaving her boyfriend. Yeah. And we were talking about addiction, and we, like, got super deep. And I was like, hell, yeah. That we get to use this, like, dub stuff we've been through to hopefully help this girl. Like, it's. It's cool.

[A]

That's my favorite part about it, too, because I just feel like going through so much. We always say we're, like, not experts, obviously, but when you go through so much and so many people and guys and girls and all stuff like that and lives. Yeah. You feel equipped. Like, that's how I feel as like, a mom. I'm like, you know what? I feel like I'm so equipped now to, like, anything they come at me with. I can, like, I. I know how to handle it. As opposed to my parents. If I had, like. Like, my emotions were out of control or a spiral or whatever. Like, they didn't know how to handle it. I feel like I'm equipped to handle things now because I'm, like, mentally unwell and I've gone through so much.

[B]

So, yeah, we got it all out of the way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We have our, like, Rolodex of. And it's Cool. It's just, like.

[A]

And it's fine.

[B]

I'm so excited for this era. Like, even just being here, being home. Like, I'm happy you're home. Just. I'm so happy. Oh, my God, I'm so excited. And to just be more intentional, like, less us running around like a chicken head. Hello. Running around like a chicken with its head cut off.

[A]

That's literally me right now. I can't. I can't think about anything. I. Like, I haven't seen anyone in so long. So seeing people today, I was like, I don't know how to even talk. Like, I feel like I'm looking at you, and I'm just like, who? There's people. Who am I talking to? I do feel like I'm hallucinating a little, so I really, like, feel like I'm just staring at you because I really don't know what to say.

[B]

Me too, though. I was telling you, like, I was just, like, on tour, and I was so excited to see you, and I really missed you.

[A]

I missed you, too. And you have so much coming up this week. Oh, my God. I know you can't really talk about it, but you have, like, big things happening this week.

[B]

I think I could talk about it, honestly. My makeup, my tart, they know about it.

[A]

People know about the clap.

[B]

Yeah. I've been teasing it a lot, and, like, we're finally doing it. I'm stoked. I'm a beauty guru.

[A]

When's it coming out?

[B]

It's, I think, end of August, beginning of September. Like, right fast. Yes. Yes. But we've been doing it for so long, and I'm so excited.

[A]

Oh, my God. I cannot wait.

[B]

I can't wait on you. Yeah. I'm wearing the darker one. We made two shades, and I can't wait to see both on you. Like, they're so fun. I need to, like, touch it up. Don't base it off how my lips are.

[A]

It looks so good. Are you doing a branch rip?

[B]

I actually. It's funny. I was telling tarte. I was like, we should do a tart tana trip.

[A]

Yeah. That's actually everything. That'd be like, where would you go?

[B]

Like, Vegas, probably.

[A]

Oh, I love.

[B]

I'll take the girls to Vegas. You're coming Backstreet Boys? Yes. Like, it'd be so camp for Backstreet Boys. No way.

[A]

Box seats.

[B]

Maureen, please swipe the. The Tarte mx, The purple mx.

[A]

I'll go on that tart trip.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I feel like that's not too extravagant, right? Don't they go on, like, private jets and stuff? I feel maybe it is, I don't.

[B]

Know, like, a little. A little tart. I don't know. I mean, I don't know if they'll say yes. I've been pitching all the craziest stuff because I'm so excited about it. Like, just for a makeup brand to take a chance on me. Just, like, it's huge.

[A]

It's like, a main one, too. But you've always kind of rolled with tart.

[B]

I know. And I do love them, and I love Maureen. And, like, I use their makeup every day. I have. They've used Shape tape for, like, 10 years.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, it's just cool. I don't know. Even their last collab was, like, this Dallas Cowboys cheerleader, Reese, and I love her, but she is like a woman. I love her. I'm obsessed with her. But, like, she could. If you made a carbon copy. Polar opposite of me. It's this woman.

[A]

Oh, wait, really?

[B]

She has. She is with God. She's walking with. Holding hands. She's never. She's probably never said, like, anal out loud.

[A]

Like, she's like, okay, very.

[B]

And, like, super athletic. She's a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader. She's, like, insane. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, thanks for taking a chance on the Vegas rat.

[A]

But that's, like, cute, because there's a whole. You have that appeal. There's not a lot of Vegas rats out there that make it. You know what I mean? So I think that's your appeal. And you're not a radio rat. Well, you are. You know, rats are red. Yeah. In the Chinese zodiac. Rats are left.

[B]

I'm so down to be a rat. I love a mouse.

[A]

Do you know, we. I think I've asked you before what your animal is.

[B]

I think I'm tiger.

[A]

Oh, that's right. I think maybe you in Malibu. What year were you born?

[B]

Let me see what I am.

[A]

1998.

[B]

Wait, let's.

[A]

That sounds right.

[B]

Tiger.

[A]

Tiger.

[B]

What are you? A snake?

[A]

I'm a dragon. Moses is a snake. Our Aquaman's a snake. And Elvis is a dragon. But Malpus, tiger, dragon slayer.

[B]

Think the one.

[A]

I think dragons are pretty cool. We have the tiger upstairs, the bedazzled tiger. Because that's like the.

[B]

You know that. I was on a mission for, like, a couple months to get you that. Did you see the home goods, like, bedazzled unicorn that was going viral everywhere?

[A]

I did not see that at all.

[B]

So, Home goods. Did you. You guys saw that they had this, like, unicorn that was in, like, select stores probably. But people kept posting TikToks like, It's in my home goods. And it's, like, huge. It's as big as the tiger, but it's like a bedazzled disco unicorn.

[A]

How much was it?

[B]

A thousand dollars.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

So I was. I was on a hunt. I was trying to get this for you, but I couldn't find it.

[A]

Oh, my God. Where would I go with.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. And then I was like, what if she doesn't want this? Like, you know what I mean?

[A]

I would probably put it on the set or something, I guess.

[B]

Yeah, we'd have to. But it'd be wild to start putting random here.

[A]

That'd be kind of cute. I love it.

[B]

I mean, if you would always, like, out shopping, like, if I'm home shopping, I'll see things that I think you'd love. But I'm like, I just feel like if I'm bringing trishod, like, you have so much decor.

[A]

We do have so much we're trying to get rid of. But if it's from you, it's like a gift and special, so that's cute.

[B]

Like, for Halloween, do you have all pink Halloween stuff?

[A]

Yeah, last year they did a lot of pink Halloween. We don't feel like the set. We don't decorate too much. It's just, like, a lot to put it back. Like, I love decorating, but putting it.

[B]

Back is a lot miserable.

[A]

Yeah. And with Dripdone leaving, I'm like, who's gonna help us decorate? You know what I mean? That's like, I need you here.

[B]

We need.

[A]

We need to figure out our Halloween costumes. Anyway. Trisha thing. I know.

[B]

I was literally saying that today. I was like, I need to go to Trisha's and we need to play. I take it so seriously.

[A]

We need a good outfit.

[B]

We've been like. We've been loving the idea of Cheetah Girls, right?

[A]

Yeah. But we kind of just like that every time. I know we do the show, but.

[B]

We could have, like, Malibu and Elvis join us. More fun.

[A]

Just not Loveline with the babies.

[B]

Yeah, that'd be so cute.

[A]

That'd be cute.

[B]

But I'm like, trying to think of what else. We had one where it was like, what was the other? Like, all blonde with holly. That we didn't do.

[A]

Last year. You were gonna do, I think, for yours.

[B]

Oh, I wanted to do, like a Y2K, like a Paris Brittany Lindsay or like, something like, that I was running out of ideas.

[A]

I liked. I just didn't look like any of them, so I was just like, who would I be?

[B]

And, like, I've, like, just. Yeah, I've done enough Y2K baddies. I, like, don't know what to do this year at all. Because I feel like last year, MOA and I being Avatar, like, poetically felt like my finale.

[A]

Like, yeah.

[B]

Like, I just was like.

[A]

And your High School Musical was good, too.

[B]

I'm just. I just don't know what the to do. Ashley, actually, the other day was like, we all should be. I don't. I shouldn't even. Like, I should surprise you, but I can't keep my mouth shut. But, like, if we all were like, one of us was Elvis Presley. One of us was Malibu Barbie. One of us was Aquaman.

[A]

So cute.

[B]

One of us was you. And we were trying to figure out, like, who would be everything. I want to be Elvis.

[A]

I love that. That actually did you. You guys did that on Canceled.

[B]

Yeah, Brooke and I did, because I was King Tut. You. And she was Moses.

[A]

And then there was Elvis and Malibu. No. Or am I making that up?

[B]

We might have had dolls. Oh, no. Yeah. Aaron, our producer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Amish Aaron dressed up as Elvis.

[A]

That's what I thought. Yeah. I love that. That's so cool.

[B]

And that was fun, but I want to, like, run it back because I just think seeing Amari as, like, Aquaman.

[A]

That would actually be so cute. Yeah.

[B]

Like, something like that. Or as Malibu Barbie. He'd be so funny.

[A]

They're fun. Yeah. We're gonna have a Halloween costume.

[B]

I feel like that's gonna be one of the biggest Halloween costumes this year. I'm serious. I'm calling.

[A]

I would love it. Okay.

[B]

Oh, my God. And now, people, I'm really gonna have to go all out.

[A]

I might be approve of that. I. My tour, a lot of people came as the Pope and the Queen, and I was like, I don't know about that, but if you come as Elvis.

[B]

Or Aquaman, I didn't even think about the reincarnations. Are you, like. I felt like people really took this one really far with Ozzy Osborne.

[A]

Yeah, that one I did Sakawa, where I was like, I kind of feel sad for, like, the family because, like, they're, like, grieving. They're probably. Probably like, this is a lot, you know, like. Like, the Queen and the Pope are so far removed from.

[B]

That's so true. Like, where they feel almost like.

[A]

Like.

[B]

Like characters, like, unfortunately, like, I know There are people as well. But like it's.

[A]

I don't know, it's less like, yeah, the Ozzy is like very sad. And everyone, they were like grieving so hard and I was like, God, that's probably the last thing they want associated. If I lost like my dad who was just a dad boss or like an icon, I'd probably be like, I don't want to associate with this person.

[B]

You know, it's kind of. It's both like, it is like it's iconic and like beautiful and very funny that like, like, like even just like the first time I ever explained to Moa the like reincarnation theories, like to someone who just has never heard this, he was like, they think what? Like it's like so crazy that like the Internet has done this and it's like wild.

[A]

Well then they just got crazy because so many people were dying that week. And then it just became like Hulk Hogan and just all these people and I'm like, okay, it can't be everyone there was.

[B]

Yeah, it's Aquaman, Moses, Paytas, Hoffman.

[A]

Like let's just let us leave it at that. Yeah. So I'm glad. Glad. Yeah.

[B]

What was Malibu? Have you ever shared Malibu and Elvis's first words?

[A]

Bubblegum. Was Malibu's from Icky Sticky Bubblegum. Ms. Rachel and Elvis. She's kind of in the, in the midst of her first words. Oh yeah. She's kind of like she's saying the time. Yeah, she, she says words. I'm trying to think like what her. Oh my God.

[B]

I need to start thinking what word I need to say around Elvis a lot. Like she'll repeat.

[A]

She is good at repeating. She says Malibu. Yeah, she'll be like Malibu. Oh my God.

[B]

So Elvis's first word technically is Malibu.

[A]

Yeah, I think so. She probably did Malibu. Yeah. So I.

[B]

That's really.

[A]

Should write it down so I don't forget. Cuz I might forget.

[B]

I wonder what Aquaman's first word's gonna be.

[A]

He has about a year to figure it out.

[B]

I'm like, so I feel like I'm like so the type of person where like when I have kids one day I'm gonna be like saying a word a bunch like really hoping they will glitter.

[A]

Glitter would be hard. Cuz like the L's are probably hard.

[B]

But yeah, that's cute.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like Isabella's first word was cheese. And I'm so jealous of her.

[A]

Wait, do you think it's because she ate a lot of cheese?

[B]

Cheese. I think, I think she loved Cheese. Yeah. My first word was baba, which is kind of, you know. And then I ended up being an alcoholic, so I was always looking for that bottle.

[A]

Did your parents tell you they remembered the baba?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow, that's cute. At least I remembered.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, kind of cool. Yeah.

[B]

With that one little thing. Oh, that's always so funny. Like, I'll just like, randomly think of, like. Like normal or nice things they did, and I'm like, you know what? Good for that one thing.

[A]

Yeah. But, like, the fact that they remember, remembered. I mean, that's.

[B]

Yeah, that's pretty good.

[A]

You gotta write that kind of stuff down because I kind of do. I'm always like, oh, my gosh.

[B]

Do you know what your first word was?

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah, she's probably like, I have no idea. She doesn't remember, like, a lot of the things. Like when I was baby, I, like, asked. I don't know. I was. Okay.

[B]

I'm wondering, like, what I think your first word was.

[A]

I have no idea.

[B]

Blonde. Something iconic.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

It's like blonde. Like, I'd want my kids first word to be blonde.

[A]

I wonder if they even know what blonde is.

[B]

Yeah.

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[A]

This is, like, so not Hot Topic. It's kind of old, but, like, Jojo Siwa's mom was bleaching her hair blonde at one and a half years old. Yeah. And she was talking. Both of them were talking about it recently. It was crazy. I was like, wow, that's wild. Wild.

[B]

Could you imagine, Trisha? That is like the type of, you know me, I get. Like, really? Really? I was gonna say rationally, but not even, like, just livid.

[A]

Oh, yeah, no, same livid. And they both have, like, joked about it, and I'm like, that's crazy. Like, that's bad.

[B]

It. That's so bad.

[A]

Her mom, like, recently did a tick tock about it, like, being funny about it. I was like, I don't know if that's like, a good thing.

[B]

Oh, my God, I was so abusive.

[A]

Yeah, bleaching. Bleaching. The hair is crazy. I don't know.

[B]

I'm not trying to because I just, like, I hate. I think there's like a fine line. It's hard because you want to, like, support your kids or have good for them. Like, I know that there was a big surge of all that dance mom era and, like, whatever. And there is probably some good in putting your kid in a hobby or wanting them to succeed or like, whatever it is. But, like, the wanting to live vicariously through to the point that this child is just an extension of you and an entity for you to live out your narcissistic fantasies. Makes me literally, literally ill. Yeah, I agree.

[A]

Especially if they're like, kids, like, let them be kids, you know what I mean?

[B]

And, like, develop their own interests. Like, imagine if Jojo Siwa, like, never was getting a bleach in tone at one and a Half. And all of the things what she would have ended up wanting to do, like, not saying that she's not happy now or whatever, like, oh, my God. And then I like, hate myself because I feel like I, like, will make JoJo Siwa jokes now and again, but I hear things like that and it's like, oh, my God.

[A]

No, I always say that she thinks I, like, hate her, but I'm like, I actually, like, I feel for her. Like, I feel like I always am. Like, God, the way she was, like, brought up is like, that's. There is like, forms of like, abuse. Whether it's like from Abby, like, yelling at her or whatever. It's like there is that.

[B]

But. Yeah. And that's like, so sad. And then like, seeing how it's manifested.

[A]

Is like, as much as I would have loved to have been a child star and I'm like, oh, my God, be so cute to have my. But I. I really won't until, like, Malibu can say, like, yes, I want to do this or no. Because, like, there's even been brand deals with, like, diaper companies and stuff. And I. I'm just like, I don't know. I just don't want to. Like, it's one thing to like, make a tick tock if she's just doing something naturally, but to be like, all right, time to get those diapers on. You know, diapers. I think that's just kind of. Obviously it's something every baby needs and the commercials are fine, but I don't know how I feel about her, like, modeling diapers.

[B]

Yeah, it's so. It's like I said, so hard.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah.

[B]

I feel like, not that, like, whatever, but like, Kim K would like, say me talking about her like I know her.

[A]

It's like Kim would say.

[B]

Kim would just call me and tell me that, like, normal north eventually wanted to do things. And then like, remember she did like the Lion King thing or whatever and.

[A]

Like, she wanted to do that like 10 they know.

[B]

Yeah. Like, I feel like that's like, more the vibe I'd want to go, you know?

[A]

Definitely. Like, you put them in classes. Like, she does swim and she's dancing. If she likes them, we continue if she doesn't. Whatever. I was like, I'm gonna do like, karate this year because she's three, so.

[B]

You know, karate's iconic. We should do karate.

[A]

I would love.

[B]

I'm just so camp, like, with the belt.

[A]

I was a black belt in karate. Yeah, you're lying. Yeah, I just talked about that this recently. Yeah. You're lying all my trophies and stuff. Yeah, I did it for like, oh.

[B]

I've seen that photo of you, actually. I'm literally your stalker.

[A]

We love a little karate moment we could do. That'd be fun.

[B]

That'd be so fun. We should, like, now that we're just like, eventually, like, once in a while, venture out into the real world and like, do a funny for like, I would love.

[A]

Especially now that I'm like, that pregnant. I don't feel, like, gross.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel better?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cuz I feel like you were saying, like, the. That the last month all you wanted to do was like, lay on your side.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Like, I couldn't breathe, couldn't eat. I feel. I actually feel so relieved.

[B]

Not pregnant.

[A]

As much I love being pregnant, I'm like, actually so happy to not be.

[B]

But at least in the final one, you really like. Because I feel like had you stopped with the two, you would have still wanted to do it one more time. Like, it really was like this grand finale.

[A]

Yeah. Yep. It felt that way. It felt complete. I always said that I was like, okay, if a third one happens, it happens. Whatever. But then when the third came, I was, okay, we're done. Yeah.

[B]

And it's just so perfect. It's so perfect. I'm so happy for you.

[A]

Now we have it open to do our TV show and our forum show and just.

[B]

Just excited. Tana. Trisha, forever.

[A]

Yay. Forever and ever get guests on the podcast.

[B]

Oh, my God. We need to talk about Sydney Sweeney.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Have you not talked about it?

[B]

No, I haven't. Oh, my God. See, this is the problem. I'm like, I don't want to talk about Hot Topics. And then I'm like, trisha, we have to.

[A]

I know. I wasn't. We talked about it last week on Hot Topics. I wasn't knowledgeable on, like, the full, like, all the perspectives. Feeling like, wow, people are really mad about this. But then I, like, was listening to all the different perspectives and there's, like, so many layers to it. What are your thoughts on it? Tell me.

[B]

It's just like, it's really crazy that that is a real commercial.

[A]

But I also, like, blame the ad people because I don't think she, like, wrote it either. You know, she probably just like, give me that bag.

[B]

She is, like, really slanging it, selling everything. Like, it's lineage this, it's soap this.

[A]

She was a new muse spokesperson too. Like, she was.

[B]

I feel like she was the spokesperson for every product in this room.

[A]

Like, I saw a tweet that someone's like, is she in debt? Why is she taking every single ad? But honestly, like, like, I guess you just take it well. And we had thought, theorized, actually, Oscar came up with this theory of, like, maybe, like, a year ago, she was getting all these, like, brands. And this was before the backlash came of people, like, why is she taking every brand deal? But, like, maybe they shot this last year. So she didn't really, like, you know, take in the criticism of, like, oh, maybe people are getting, like, sick of me too much. You know? I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't think about that. I guess it's so wild, too, because, you know that she was just like, I did this jeans campaign.

[A]

Yeah. She probably didn't.

[B]

Like, now it's like, wow, everywhere, like, cultural movement.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what's crazy to me is, like, this is my take. This is my actual, like, full Sydney Sweeney take, is that corporations like American Eagle have got to have 50 rooms. That. That is, like, passed through. And there's no way in hell, in my opinion, in my opinion, that someone, somewhere, some. Some intern who's with the Times didn't stand up and say, hey, so maybe.

[A]

I know so.

[B]

And then, you know, that they were just like, whatever, and, like, you know, just ignored it.

[A]

I know. I think that was, like, the biggest criticism is, like, how many people did this go through where they're like, yeah, this is a good idea.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it still came out that way. Well, they doubled down. I guess they came out with a response, and they kind of just said, we stand by her genes, her story. So.

[B]

Which is also really interesting to me that they. I don't know. I was not expecting that response.

[A]

It is crazy because, like, a year ago, if a company went under fire for this, they, like, apologize right away. This company's like, we're not.

[B]

Yeah. I just. I don't even know. It's so interesting, too, like, because obviously, like, I don't know with what you and I do. Like, we would. And not that, like, we are the blueprint. I'm not saying it like that, but just, like, in the influencer to fan pipeline is so different than the traditional media star to fan pipeline pipeline. Because it's like, you just come online and be like, oh, my God, my dad. Like, I didn't realize the depth. I just read this thing for money and I'm an idiot and like, oh, my God, like, done by. But, like, because she's traditional media, you.

[A]

Know, there's, like, people to Go through and stuff.

[B]

And virality is so interesting. Like, you know, just like you. You don't know what is going to, like, go to the moon like that.

[A]

It seems like people do tend to, like, rage bait more like companies, you know what I mean? Like, Wendy's tweeting, Katy Perry, like, keep her in space. You know what I mean? Like, just saying diabolical things. And it's like. It's like. I guess it goes viral and then it gives your brand some. The astronomy. What was it? Astronomer, the one that was up at the cold play. Like, I mean, they got Gwyneth Paltrow and it like, went viral. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah. It is so interesting. We're like, moving into this, like, nothing is real society. The bunnies on the trampoline.

[A]

I have no idea what that means.

[B]

Okay. I saw a guy write a song about the bunnies on a trampoline, and I thought it was just a metaphor. But he wrote this, like, beautiful song on Tick Tock. Like, there's bunnies this jumping on a trampoline, and I don't know if it's real or not. What is real? And I was like, crying. It was like this beautiful song he wrote. I haven't seen.

[A]

It's an actual bunnies.

[B]

This video goes viral and it's of these. But it's a tick Tock and it's these bunnies at night. Like, a camera in the backyard caught a trampoline and like six bunnies go onto a trampoline. They start bouncing around.

[A]

It looks really cute. It looks real.

[B]

Oh, and it's AI the whole world is like. It got like 6 million likes because.

[A]

People are like, this is the cutest thing ever.

[B]

It was a wait, I'm peeing and then I have to see. Can you pull it up? Because I did not know.

[A]

Crazy. I say so many AI Things I thought they would.

[B]

The bunnies were just a metaphor from this Hooters girl right now. Oh, my God. That's what we should be. I always wanted to be a Hooters girl.

[A]

I mean, I'm down. I don't know if I. I don't.

[B]

Need to be a Hooters girl now. But I, like, it was one of those things.

[A]

You haven't dressed up as a Hooters girl. I feel like I've seen you as a Hooters girl.

[B]

No, Brooklyn, you never should know. I don't think I ever have. But that was in my, like, the same era as like, like watching Girls Next Door. And like, you're like, oh, my God, I want to go live in the Playboy Mansion. And this is like the same, like, vibe and time for me. Like, I remember being like. And we had one in Vegas called Twin Peaks, where it was like, even here. And they would wear a little, like, checkered crop whatever. And like little high waisted shorts.

[A]

And I was like, the idea of those Twin Peaks, it's cool.

[B]

And I just wanted to scam men.

[A]

We should start our own restaurant. Like that.

[B]

We should scam men.

[A]

That's the name of the restaurant. Scammen.

[B]

That'd be so. Yeah. Hold on.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because I have no. I have 50 thoughts. Oh, we're back. We're back. It was just me begging Jimmy to cut something for like, literally 10 whole seconds.

[A]

But that's a good one, though. Okay. We love Olsen twins and I love them.

[B]

We're talking about the Olsen twins. I want to see the bunnies. Oh, it looks so. And this is a. I. I don't know why it makes me so sad. A is crazy.

[A]

They like the on TikTok. I'm on a TikTok. Are you? We're like, no, my whole TikTok is like, I. It's like, so.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, this one. Someone made one of Aquaman and like, it's weird. What is your name? Aquaman. I'm going to have to ask you to leave. And it's like Aquaman in a job interview when he's older.

[B]

Yeah. Like, that's just like, so. It's so crazy. Yeah. I see people making us as babies all the time.

[A]

Oh, I hate those.

[B]

Like, it's like, literally I'm sitting here, leopard chairs. But like, we're toddlers talking to each other.

[A]

I hate it.

[B]

I don't know why it makes me eat even. Like, Vogue recently had.

[A]

Yes. The model.

[B]

AI models. I know. And it was making me so sad.

[A]

Because I'm like, guess2 guess had an AI model.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For their jeans. And I'm like, what is happening?

[B]

Because that. The coolness of modeling and whatever is knowing that, like, you got the shot. Like, whenever I see a cool photo of someone wearing something or doing something or whatever, my thought is like, wow, that's so cool that that photographer and this person came together and they got the shot. I know someone who can never get the shot.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I'm so intrigued by that. And, like, that's so sad, I think. And like, that it just. It's not the bunnies. It's. The bunnies are a metaphor for something bigger. You know, it's just like Damn. Are we really going to be living in a society where we can't, like, differentiate? I even, like, see, like, I saw, like, you see news. You see AI news. Like, I saw something that was AI news about, like, something polar. Something like, like, with snow and like, the North Pole or something. I sound so stupid. I know AI is the problem. I'm like, something polar. It's like, shut up.

[A]

Like the North Pole or.

[B]

I have no idea. It was one of those polls just like, it was like a polar. We're doing some. And it was like, news. And then it was AI. And I was like, oh, my God.

[A]

I'm falling for it. I'm turning into, like, I fall all the time. Or like celebrities, like, saying something and it's not them talking. Like, I. I felt about Sharon Osborne. It's like, why Sharon? And then it's like just someone talking. It sounds just like her. And she didn't say any of that. And I was like, oh, that's so.

[B]

Yeah, Like, I hate that so much. Yeah, it's just, like, creepy.

[A]

I hate it, too. I don't know if that can be stopped.

[B]

The AI influencers. Yeah. We've yet to see, though one really pop off, like, on some Alex Earl. Like, everyone's really obsessed with this AI influencer, and I feel like it's gonna happen.

[A]

Wasn't like little Michaela kind of like that.

[B]

I used to get. I don't know if I can say any of this, but, like, I would get paid to get lunch with this AI influencer.

[A]

You went to lunch with an AI influencer?

[B]

So, like, they would pay me and I would show up to. And like, the paparazzi would come, like, all of that, right? And I'd get there and it would be like, me and my manager. It's like, so strange, really, the more that I'm talking about this. And I would get there and then it would be the AI Influencers team, right? Like real people.

[A]

People.

[B]

And then there'd be a girl and, like, she'd just be like, a pretty girl. And then she'd sit next to me and we'd take a photo and then they would go home and they would, like, superimpose the AI influencer into the photo. And then they'd send it to me and I would grid post it, and then they would pay me.

[A]

And this is out there.

[B]

Yes. I'm gonna find it right now.

[A]

Oh, isn't that.

[B]

I've lived so many lives. I, like, forget about things. Like.

[A]

What do you.

[B]

What the. You mean, Tana? You were hanging out with an AI influencer for money.

[A]

That's why I want to know, like, what was the reaction from your, like, followers? Like, what did they say?

[B]

They were probably just like, tana's on drugs again.

[A]

But how many times? It's kind of everything, though, because it does kind of, like, fit you to just be like, I'm here with this, like, AI influencer.

[B]

It was definitely at a time where I was more, like, trolly and, like, stupid like that.

[A]

But no, I kind of love it. I would do it now still.

[B]

Yeah. And now it is kind of camp, but, like, it was not camp. I'm trying to figure out how many did you do? At least three different activations, like, were with AI people where I would show up.

[A]

Were other people doing it with a simple influencer?

[B]

I think so. I don't know if it was, like, a lot of other people. It would just be like. Because then it's like, think about the fact that, like, influencer collabs like, that happen all the time, right? Where managers are like, okay, you two are gonna meet up and then they come and then the people meet up and whatever. But, like, once the photo's done, I'm like, so what are your guys's name? Like, it's not like there was a person there for me to talk to. And I would have to, like, sit through the whole.

[A]

That's even better, though. Then you don't have to conversate. You're just like, bye, gotta go.

[B]

I guess that's so true when you put it like that.

[A]

And why do they have the girl stand in just to have, like, a body.

[B]

Body. Yeah. And then I was like, I really hope I'm not, like, breaching a contract that Jordan Marona is then going to get, like, sued for or something right now. But, like, oh, my God. Like, I couldn't talk about it at the time, though. Like, I was not allowed to be. Like, this is fake. Like, by contract.

[A]

What do you mean? Like, the influencer wasn't fake. Like, they have to know that person's fake.

[B]

Like, I. I was only allowed to be, like, I was just with.

[A]

But people thought it was a real person. Like, it looks like a real person. No, I need to see. I need to see yet.

[B]

I'm trying to find it. I'm sorry, this.

[A]

Take no time. Take your time.

[B]

It's deep in my Instagram. I'm in Jake Paul divorce, MTV era right now.

[A]

Oh, damn. Okay, that's pretty good that you went down so quickly.

[B]

Okay, look, look, look. Okay, I don't even want to show you. It's like 10 times more embarrassing of a photo than I thought it was going to be. Like, what am I doing?

[A]

Oh, first of all, I was like, which one is AI? I was like.

[B]

Cuz you're the face tuning the out of myself. Mind you, I can see that's. Oh, I locked in.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

No, no, no. I was trying to screen on it. I guess that's true too. I was face tuning myself to be like, you're like glowing.

[A]

So like, wait, that's crazy.

[B]

Like she just wasn't there.

[A]

Bermuda is bae.

[B]

I heard Bermuda was her name.

[A]

Wait, okay, Bermuda's new single. She's cute and yeah, it was like you disclosed it.

[B]

Oh, did I?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, hell yeah.

[A]

So I mean, people knew. This is so crazy. Isn't that strange?

[B]

I guess it makes more sense that they were like making music and I think they had a real girl's voice.

[A]

I want to go to Bermuda and.

[B]

Remember Shane Dawson was like trying to.

[A]

Find out Lil Michaela, he was obsessed with them. Okay. That's how I know her. Is she still posting? Yeah, I guess she's still. Oh no, she knows she's not. She stopped in 2020.

[B]

Where are you now? I love.

[A]

She went off the ground, but she's like, obviously AI. Like. Yeah, it's not because the picture you were with her, she looks kind of real. This one looks. Oh, she's with. Is this little Michaela? She's with little Michaela. She takes her best.

[B]

Yeah, they were friends.

[A]

Okay. I kind of live for that. I wonder what happened to her. Where are you?

[B]

But like, are we gonna get to that point where we're like collabing with AI influencers, you think? Like, would you have a, like, let's say like an AI influencer went like Alex Earl status? Like, would you have her on just Trish?

[A]

I guess, yeah.

[B]

Megan the doll.

[A]

That's true. I did. It's iconic or no. What is she? She's a robot. I don't know if I was a robot. Yeah, I would.

[B]

I know I would.

[A]

I would have.

[B]

I would collab with just to know.

[A]

You did, I guess.

[B]

Yeah, I guess I did. Before the. Before it's time.

[A]

No. Yeah, I'm not saying like I'm above it, but I guess that's why, like, old people die off. Because I hope that I'm like, not around when I just takes over completely. You know what I mean? Because, you know, like, who knows what's going to happen when we're like 80 when I'm like 80, like 70, it's like what's the world our robot's going to be in our house. Like you know, that kind of stuff.

[B]

And it's like, it's so scary. It's cool.

[A]

But also it's like, I don't know, I'm kind of like. I guess it's my time to leave the earth. If that is like.

[B]

Yeah, it's so scary. And then our kids, are they just going to be like. Like the guy, his name's Sam Altman, I think the guy who made Chad gbt.

[A]

No, I don't know.

[B]

I love his name on the ovon. That's why I know. Which is so funny. Like just the ovon interviewing this guy who made chat gp. It's the funny like it's so unserious, but yet so serious. And he was saying that like he doesn't think the next generation is going to need schooling in the same ways that like we did in college and like all of those things because of AI.

[A]

Yeah. I definitely believe that in general, like the way we were brought up in.

[B]

School is like kind of. Cuz even imagine homework now.

[A]

Now that is interesting. I know it's gonna be weird when like my kids go to school cuz I'm always like wait, it's gonna be so different.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And that's a few years away, so who knows what even's gonna happen.

[B]

Oh my God, that's so cool.

[A]

Like a robot teacher or something. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah. And like if you think about it like that one.

[A]

Did you see that one? Oh my God. It's like really sad. It was a couple that was hiking in like Idaho at like Devil's Den. Did you see that? They were hiking with their two kids. Kids.

[B]

And I love when we go true crime.

[A]

I know, Sorry. Oh my God. The whole point is the guy is like the guy that he unalived the two parents while they were hiking with like their kids in the middle of the day like in Idaho or something.

[B]

Random guy.

[A]

Random guy. And he had just moved to the. To Idaho to become a school teacher. And he has been a teacher for a while. And I was like, what do you mean? Like this is like a teacher that just. And like didn't know that people just randomly did it. Like whatever. I know. It's like you were just a school. You were a school teacher. Like what do you mean? You're just gonna. Yeah. Like it's so crazy. Yeah.

[B]

No motives. Like random. Who is so strange. Have you Been keeping up with Brian Coburger's case.

[A]

And like, not by choice, just on Tik Tok, like, tick, I need to get off of True Crime to talk because I really don't like seeing these stories.

[B]

Same. And I'll like, go in a rabbit hole for like one night and then like, I. I know Brian Coburger's. You name it, I know it. It was. Did you see. If you're on Brian Coburger, Tik Tok. Did you see the. One of the victim sisters, her impact statement to his face?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It was like the most powerful thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

[A]

But he was just so, like, cold.

[B]

I know, but I think it's like, obviously with what we know, he has to, like, get off on people's fear and pain. So I think it was really cool that, like, she didn't give him any of that.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

And like, she studied him. She stalked the stalker, you know what I mean? Like, he had like, rap videos and she's bringing them up and, like, all these things, like, about him that are embarrassing, you know, And I was like.

[A]

Do you think he feels anything that know?

[B]

I don't know. I mean, you have to wonder if he's a narcissist, right? Like, well, probably, because then. Yes, right then he feels like the shame and the whatever, guilt and embarrassment. If he's like a sociopath, I guess not.

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[B]

It's. I only know because I met so many awful people that I've tried to diagnose.

[A]

I. I used to know the word sociopath, but, like, I remember not to bring up Shania, but Shane would call everyone.

[B]

That was his buzzword. That was he.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That was his buzz word.

[A]

He told, like, Peter Mott. I was a socio or something. I was like, oh, my God.

[B]

From a sociopath.

[A]

They call Jake Paul a sociopath.

[B]

I think everybody was, like, not a sociopath at all. Anyways. I know. No, because I, like, that time was so funny. I remember that. I remember, like, Jake and I taking sociopath quizzes for a YouTube video, like, making fun of Shane, calling him that, which is just. That was so funny because, like, now I feel like we have new buzzwords. Like, we hear the gaslight.

[A]

Or, like, gaslighting was a big one.

[B]

Like, a big one. I feel like I keep seeing contrarian right now.

[A]

Oh, my God. I haven't heard that word at all. All.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But the sociopath, like, it is. It's a little, like, negligent to just call people that when you're not really, like, diagnosing.

[B]

Like, she was really just going in people's houses with a Canon T6I and being like, you're a sociopath.

[A]

And people, like, took it as if he was Oprah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, they're like, yes, actually Oprah. Damn.

[B]

And, like, Jade, like, could not beat the sociopath allegations, you know? And it's just like, I am imagining now, like, that's kind of crazy. I feel like things.

[A]

Right. You can't just, like, diagnose someone you haven't, like, examined. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God. Even though I love doing that, because now I'm sitting here, I'm like, what is David do. No, I need to stop.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

I need to stop. I was going through. Well, I wasn't, but Ashley went through. Ashley and Meg went through one of my old storage units the other day, and they brought home, like, funny stuff from it, and they brought home this giant framed photo of David Dobryan brick that I had, like, that he gave me, like, with something. Some pr. Something. But I kept it because I was like, this is my friend. This is funny. And I was like, how. Like, I was looking at it.

[A]

Just, like, a picture of him. Yes.

[B]

A giant, like. But, like, it was, like, edited to where he looked like a king or something. Right.

[A]

And I was like, I've seen that one. I've seen one. Yeah.

[B]

Just looking at it in my new house with my new life right now. I was like, energy funny. I know. I actually. But just how funny that there was a time where, like, this was in my home, and I would look at it and be like, that's my time. First friend.

[A]

You just had a picture of David in your house?

[B]

Well, I just had the most random, like, just. It'd be like. Just random. Like. Like influencer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Memorabilia, I guess. I don't know.

[A]

Like, all over the house. Yeah, I guess he's back with the vlog. Last Hot Topic. Moses had watched one of his vlogs for the first time. Like, a new one that just came out. He's doing his analysis on it, and I don't know. I really don't know what happened in it. I was kind of like, okay.

[B]

Just disassociating or thinking about, like, what.

[A]

Nail color kind of. No, he sent it to me because, like, maybe we'll. Because we have any Hot Topics. I was, like, watching it, and I really did kind of disassociated kind of, like, I don't know how to feel. I felt like nothing. I felt like. I don't know. I feel nothing about this.

[B]

Yeah. Because it's just, like, okay. Like. And I'm sure, you know, like, okay. Oh, yeah. Like, his fans, clearly.

[A]

Still. That's the thing. I mean, he had a million views in, like, nine hours. I don't know if I could really do anything more about this. He has fans, and that's it.

[B]

I know. I'm starting to realize that, too. Like, that's what's so funny about, like, Cancel Culture is like, even the Sydney Sweeney thing. Like, isn't it wild that, like, the virality of this and, like, all these awful people have just brought her now? Like, more fans that are Awful. Like, you know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

Like, it's so weird. Like, there's no such thing as exiling anyone off the Internet yet we, like, keep trying. Like, it's.

[A]

It is weird. Cause, like, there's some. I mean, won't name names, but there's some that definitely have, like, lost, like, viewership. But there's David and James and all those people who, like, have millions of views. Like, even, like, 20,000 views, which used to get 300,000, you know. So I think in that way, there's, like, a little cancellation there, there, because people.

[B]

Oh, I get what you're saying.

[A]

You know, they stop caring. Me too. There was Definitely, like, in 2021, my main channel would get, like. It still gets, like, 20, 000 views, but it was getting, like, 10,000, 20,000 views. So in a way, you're kind of canceled, right?

[B]

Because, yeah, I guess irrelevancy is the punishment.

[A]

I think that's the biggest. Is if people stop talking about it.

[B]

But it's like, even, like, Sierra from Love Island. I, like, watched how people literally wanted her to, like, die at the stake, and now she's just like, look, I'm in Fiji, and, like, it has 7 million views, and it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.

[A]

It's real and it's like, not. I think the cancellation, like we said, is, like, irrelevancy. It's just like, stop talking about the person. Because if you're talking about someone, you're giving them relevancy, and some people thrive off that. So, so interesting. But, yeah, there's There's a. There's fandoms out there for everyone, but not everyone. Some people fall off.

[B]

That's wild. Isn't it crazy what Jenna Marbles did?

[A]

Her canceling herself?

[B]

Yeah. Like, looking at that now, how iconic. Like, she loves that because she was in the Internet and, like, peak Internet. She was so unproblematic. Like, one thing happened and she was.

[A]

Was like, yeah, I have to believe she just probably wanted to, like, be done for the Internet, you know, kind of, like, canceled, where you're like, I'm kind of just done for now. Like, you didn't do anything wrong, but you're like, I'm just done.

[B]

Yeah, she might have, like, felt sorry for whatever that thing is, but, you know, over time, she's like, well, I'm never coming back. Like, I had it in its peak.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like she was still getting.

[A]

A lot of views when she left, and people, like, love her to this Day. Like, Jenna needs.

[B]

Imagine if she made a comeback. Like, it would be, like, shattering. I would love it. I love her.

[A]

I would love it too. It's like, God, we don't need comebacks from anybody else but her. Yeah, David did a comeback, but we need to see Jenna.

[B]

Isn't that wild, though? Like, how much at one point, at least in my life, how much power these, like, drama channels, like, had over my mental health. Like, at one point I was like, oh, my God, saying something about me. I'm. This is weak. Ruining life altering. Like, even read it there for a second, I cared, like, yeah. It's, like, so funny.

[A]

Yeah. No, drama channels were. Were. God, they were. It was awful. And they would. Because I think there were so many. There was like, seven poor ones. And they would get a lot of views. And if one made a video, they all made a video. And there was just like. Just like, constant, like, every day. And if they got abused off of you from that one, they would keep making it. It was. It was awful.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's crazy how they truly don't exist anymore.

[B]

I know. Honestly now and again. But it's. It's just like, growth is crazy to me. Just like the weight, like, would no longer. You know what I mean?

[A]

I said. Yeah. I also just think it's, like, not impactful anymore. People are like. Because they would just, like, makeup and, like, the titles of people. Yeah.

[B]

And there's just, like, so much now, like, circulating. You know what I mean? Like, people lived for those drama channels because it was like, all that's true. The drama, you know, that's.

[A]

Tik Tok probably killed the drama channels.

[B]

Cuz like, Tik Tok same with, like, dramageddon. Like, I just, like.

[A]

Yeah, I don't.

[B]

Like, I remember literally, like, where I was like, what I was where I was sitting when, like, by sister heist. All that. That's to like, you know, and like, we're all around the couch, like, like, glued to it.

[A]

And now it's just. Just like none of those people. But again, Tati, I guess, doesn't really make content.

[B]

Oh, people.

[A]

Yeah. I guess we get canceled over time.

[B]

It's so crazy. But what else do we have?

[A]

I don't know. Should we question. We can take a call.

[B]

Me on our show about call. Should we take a call? Like it's like some quirky fun thing.

[A]

No, I didn't know if this is our. Our recap. I'm down to take a call.

[B]

I'm down to take a call. Why not?

[A]

We Got to get the people. You know, it's all, hello. Hello. We gotta redo our shoot, too.

[B]

Can't write down.

[A]

Yeah, that'd be fun.

[B]

I love. Like, I'm in a photo shoot era again, I think, like, I want to.

[A]

Do a photo once I get back to it. You look amazing.

[B]

Let's do it.

[A]

I need to get back. No, I want to. I need to.

[B]

Whenever you want. Like, that'd be fun, because I know that we need not Loveline photos that, like, I love fit our vibe, especially.

[A]

If we're doing the forum. We can't have the pictures. We can't have. We should have before. My blurry eyes. And you guys, it's not just the pillow print. I remember zooming in and being like.

[B]

Where are my eyes?

[A]

Yeah. Anyways, it's a me thing. It's not anyone else thing. But I was just like, we should do a leopard. Yes.

[B]

Because also, like, I like, Just like, I remember being like, we're gonna be so Calvin Klein with the jeans. And then, like. Or not, whatever.

[A]

It was like Pamela Anderson. It's my fault because it was my idea, actually. Like, I mean, the backdrop.

[B]

No, but those photos are sickening. And these photos are cute, but, like, that's.

[A]

I hate it.

[B]

I, like, did so much of that, where I was like, I'm gonna be so Pamela, and it's like, no, Tana. Like, you were.

[A]

You were killing it. It was really me that I was like, I hate everything about this.

[B]

You look hot in the photos.

[A]

I think I had extensions in, like, that's the whole thing. My roots are bad. Like, I.

[B]

No, you look hot in the photos.

[A]

We need to do. We need to do an updated one. There was a.

[B]

We need a leopard.

[A]

Yes. Like, there's a Barbie Ferreira. Just be in the leopard. No, there's a Barbie. Do you know her from Euphoria? She has one with the actress who plays Maddie. They're in leopard outfits. They're like plastic leopard outfits, and they're like, white backdrop. And I was like, oh, my God, we could do that. And they're in matching ones. They're like matching leopard dresses.

[B]

Alexa Demi.

[A]

Yes. Yes, yes.

[B]

Wait, I wanna. You. I wanna see that. That's such a cute.

[A]

You found it. Their outfits are so cute and stuff.

[B]

And you're such a good Googler.

[A]

People, like, tagged us in this. That's why I found it.

[B]

Oh, that's cute.

[A]

Plastic leopard. I gotta find those dresses.

[B]

Yeah. Maybe we have, like, a more campy phone, too. Like a big rotary phone or, like, something Maybe drift them can build.

[A]

Build a big, big phone.

[B]

Or we could like have someone go crazy with like AI. Like Photoshop. Photoshop, not AI. We will hire a real person.

[A]

Oh, she's standing. Oh, because she's so short. Is that. Oh, that's cute. We're the same height though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. We could. You could see it on a suitcase.

[B]

A rotary phone.

[A]

Okay. I love it. Like, are we gonna saddle it or something?

[B]

Yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna figure it out.

[A]

We're gonna just come up with that something else. I always just get ideas from other people. But we could also come up with.

[B]

Some because I want to blow up the photo too. I really want to put a photo of us in my house.

[A]

I want to put it right there. Yeah, let's do it. Well, let's get it. Let's do it.

[B]

Black and white. Walk through the front door.

[A]

And the front door is crazy.

[B]

That's so funny. I've been thinking about what art I want to put behind the like mirror right when you walk in my house that everyone takes photos in. And I'm like, how funny if like Amari is posting an outfit pic and it's just you and me behind him. Like, that's so like, everyone is subject to like being photograph with this photo whether they like it or not.

[A]

So funny. But you definitely should be one.

[B]

They're going to be like, why do we pay rent.

[A]

For like, you guys should. You guys should do something like queen or something with all your faces like lit up.

[B]

We keep meaning to do that for Amari's parents, like a little all four of us photo shoot.

[A]

Yeah, that'd be really cool.

[B]

Like a JC Penny dead.

[A]

That's so funny. You should do that with your little black turtlenecks and jeans.

[B]

That'd be cute. They'd love to see us in turtlenecks, not clothes too. Love that.

[A]

This is crazy.

[B]

So many.

[A]

All right, should we take a call?

[B]

Yeah, let's take a caller.

[A]

Hi, Trisha. Hi, Tana. Hello, my babies. This is Lily calling in. I hope you guys are well. I love you both so much. Trish, I wanted to say congratulations on your baby, Aquaman. I'm so in love. He's so cute. I love his name. I'm sure like the baby name process is so exciting. Like picking out baby names. I don't know. I was curious if you had a second runner up name when you were choosing his. I love thinking about baby names. I have like a little list in my phone. It's so fun. Anyway, I just wanted to say congratulations. And also, how are Malibu and Elvis adjusting to their new baby brother? I hope everything is good over there. I love you guys so much. And talk soon, babies. Bye. Bye.

[B]

There is something so sweet about, like, hearing their voices. You know what I mean? And they just, like, call and say, like, I know.

[A]

It's so nice to hear someone, like, I love the name because we were talking. Were we on this episode or before? I, like, we talked on this episode. We did talk about it. How I was, like, so, like, depressed over people not liking the name. Like, I tried to play it off. I was like, yeah, it's like, whatever. People are gonna have opinions. But I was, like, so sad because I thought it was, like, best name in the entire world. And then when people. So thank you. That means a lot. Like, I want to hear something.

[B]

It's, like, literally gonna have the best life. Like, that's just like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? Like, that's sad that that's what I'm saying.

[A]

I hate that people were like, that should be borderline child abuse, knowing he's gonna get bullied. No. Yeah. And I was like, that's so sad. Anyways, thank you.

[B]

And we have, like, real people out here doing real things. Like, you know what I mean?

[A]

I really was trying to set him up for success because I love the name so much, but. Oh, I love you. I know. If anyone. By the way, if anyone's like, what is happening with Trish? I have been having a little bit of maybe baby blues. I think just, like, not leaving the house. I feel a little, like, a little, like, stir crazy. But I do think it's, like, from having a baby. I'm fine. I'm fine. I talked to somebody, but sometimes when I hear things, I start getting emotional. And I was like, oh, my God, that's so nice.

[B]

And you have to let the tears out. I'm like, yeah, I'm heavy on crying. Okay.

[A]

I've been a crier. That's why my eyes are puffy today. I can't even keep them open. I'm like, okay, they're a little puffy.

[B]

But being a crier's camp. Okay, I'm sorry. Like, I cry all the time. I'm a big crier these days, so maybe that's why I'm saying this.

[A]

Really? I've never seen you cry.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yeah. No, I cry.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And, like, no, I cry so much. I cry whether. Just something moves me, something I'm thinking about, like, because I like now, I think it's like I'm in this place of life where it's like holding this in is bad for me. Because you know that feeling in your chest when you hold in a cry? I almost feel like, that feeling. Feeling you, like, put it into your soul.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? It's like you're banking that feeling to then all come out later too, which is just disgusting and scary. Yeah. When it all comes out bottled up and like.

[A]

Well, then. Then you just, like, rage. I feel. If you, like, bottle it up. Yeah.

[B]

And like, my period makes me cry so many things just like. Or I'll have, like, sad weeks, days. Even today, I've been, like, kind of glum, you know, just like.

[A]

Yeah, I've been feeling like that. Like, it's so weird. Like, it's like the happiest time. And then it's also, like, just like, you're just sad for no reason. You don't know why.

[B]

And then it's probably, like, such a mental pressure to be. Be like, I should be so happy.

[A]

That part. And you're just like, this is all I've wanted. I've been able to have three babies successfully. It's, like, so wonderful. And my husband, like, most literally does everything. Like, he literally does everything because I've been struggling. So he's been up with the baby. He's been getting feedings, he's been cooking for us. He's been doing everything. So then I feel even worse. I'm like, oh, my God. I have, like, this, like, perfect. And I'm doing absolutely nothing.

[B]

You need to, like, not beat yourself up. Like, give yourself. So, Trisha, you've done everything. Like, you've done everything. Like, if you have this, like, lull, this emotional lull or whatever, like, you're harvesting power for future you, you know?

[A]

Like, I love that. Thank you.

[B]

You are. And I just. And also it's good. It's like, I really think, like, to be in tune with all these emotions is so good.

[A]

I know a lot of emotions. So when I heard that, I was like, thank you.

[B]

And you guys are so loved. So that's just like. It's hard with, like, all the nonsense and the speculation and, like, to not let things get to you, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Because I feel like I've done such a good job, like, regulating my emotions that I'm like, oh, my God. No. When, like, this hit, I was like, wait, why do I feel sad for no reason? When you feel sad for no reason, I'm sure That's what people with like depression feel like. But I've never really suffered from, like chronic depression. Like, I've been like sad here and there, but I never knew like. So I understand people now with like that kind of depression where you get sad for like no reason. And it's like the worst feeling. Like, I've been sad, but there's been reasons, you know, but this is like, wait, I'm like so happy, so lucky. Got everything I wanted in life and I'm like, damn, girl.

[B]

Yeah. Like, my chemicals are just not chemicaling, you know, just crying at night. But it's almost like truly, like, at least there's some people piece in that too. Just being like my chemicals are not chemicaling.

[A]

Yeah. I have to Google to make sure I'm always like, okay, is this normal? I'm even like postpartum with baby versus girl. Because I was never this like, sad for no reason. And I was like, okay, I need to like get it together.

[B]

But even just third baby, different chemicals, different time of life. You also did so much during this pregnancy that maybe now your body's just needing this like, era of just like taking a beat and feeling everything. Or maybe you were compartmentalizing without even knowing it across this pregnancy. These emotions that you didn't want to like, feel.

[A]

Yeah. And I had like a traumatic birth and I feel like I have like ptsd. Was there a question? I love the name. Thank you.

[B]

Was there a runner up name to Aquaman? And also how is Malibu and Elvis?

[A]

Oh, we kind of. We kind of talked about it, but yeah, Water snake was the runner up name.

[B]

Was there like a third or a fourth? Like, can you please tell me more?

[A]

I mean, the ones I loved for a boy, like, before the ocean theme was like, I loved Aladdin. I loved Houdini. We talked about Houdini.

[B]

Oh, I loved Houdini.

[A]

We had Lion King. If he was a Leo, that. Yeah, that would have been King, Moses, Peters, Hackman. That would have been so cool. I. I loved name Donnie after Donnie as my Gerard after Gerard Way. Like, I loved those names. But when the third came and it was year of the snake, which was Moses and it was a boy, I was like, why don't you pick it? Because I was just like, I want him to feel whatever. And truly Moses, I feel like that's like the also the myth is like, oh my God, like, like what husband would allow. Or I love people be like, I love that either they'll be like, I love that Moses goes along with Trisha's. Names or like, oh, my God, like, what husband, like, allows that? But, like, truly, he was like, the driving behind Aquaman. Like, he said it, and then I was kind of like, well, I have some connection to it and all stuff like that. Like, let's watch the movie again. So he, like, brought it up, and.

[B]

Like, it's so sad to see the Internet once again, like, making it seem like this man is being, like, held. Because it's like, oh, my God. What are you. Like, he loves you for all that you are, which includes, like, your whimsical, fun, iconic nature, you know? So it's like, of course he's gonna want to, like, carry on that legacy through your baby.

[A]

Yes. And Moses is also very weird. Like, I don't know why people always, like, Moses just puts up her stuff. I'm like, he's, like, a weird person. As am I. Like, he's very.

[B]

That's always me with Mo, too, because people, like, how is he with her? And I'm like, dude, we get along. Like, he's weird, too.

[A]

Like, they think he's like, you're like. You're like an outpatient. Yeah, he's my conservator.

[B]

I always make that joke that Mako is. Everyone thinks he's my conservative.

[A]

That's so funny, because that's, I think, what people think of Moses, Theresa being held hostage. It's like, these men love this. So I don't know why, but for.

[B]

Me, but, like, I'm happy about it.

[A]

No, it is. It is so funny. People have that, like, feeling. Feeling. But, yeah, those were it. And he. He never had, like. He never thought of baby names as, like, a kid. He never was like, I'm thinking of baby.

[B]

More of a girl thing, too, kind of.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So when he was, like, when we. He had to, like, really think about it when we started having, like, boys. Yeah, he liked King Tut. He liked that one. He did love. That was like, we liked king names, so we were thinking about kings and stuff like that, but it ended up being. Yeah, he said Aquaman, and I was like, well, that kind of fits both.

[B]

Of us, so it fits both of you so perfectly.

[A]

And it just makes me so, so.

[B]

Sad knowing that, like, I know it's. You ever feel anything bad? Obviously always, but it's. I think it's good for you. I think you're having, like, a good, transformative era and just feel it all.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like I'm very proud of you.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Like, you've done so much.

[A]

I'VE been talking to, like, yeah, like, I have a really good, like, not really a therapist. It's like a postpartum specialist. And they, like, help you through it, like, what you're feeling and if it's, like, normal. Because I never want to, like, knowing I have mental illness. I never want to go to, like, psychosis because, you know those moments, moms that are like, they do something crazy and they're like, well, I was in psychotic out. I never want to be that. So I'm like, am I close to being there? And, like, no. So, like, that's good.

[B]

Because I'm like, yeah, being aware is good, too.

[A]

Yeah. I never want to be like, is this normal or is this not normal? Not asking for help. So I do.

[B]

Yeah, that's really good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God. I think everyone just needs. Then, is this normal specialist? Like, that's so nice.

[A]

Yeah, because, like, you think, like, I was crying for, like, a week straight over missing. My Chemical Romance was here last weekend, and I. And I got all these offers to go from, like, Warner Brothers and my agency and, like, publicist. Devin. Devin, oh, my God, you were one, too. You're like, hey, this person can give you tickets. Mc, I, I. You hit me at a time. I was, like, bawling my eyes out because I was getting all these offers. So I had to be like, well.

[B]

Are they touring other places?

[A]

No, that was their last show. No, they. They're technically touring till September 6, but, like, when am I gonna travel to Chicago to see them?

[B]

Like, are they all far?

[A]

This was the only LA show. And I was just like, like, no.

[B]

It'S so funny the way I love you because I'm, like, scheming. I'm like, how do we get Trish into My Chemical Romance?

[A]

And it was, like, a perfect setup because also, like, my agency was like, we can get you an escort straight from the car to your seat so you don't have to wait and we'll call. Like, it was just, like, so many perfect lineups, and I just.

[B]

But I believe. I truly believe the same way. Like, when you're out on the road and you're touring and you get offered something and you can't go because you're doing it.

[A]

Yeah. Like, you're.

[B]

That it's one of those, like, it. It will happen.

[A]

But this one.

[B]

Just think about if you had a show that night. Like, you'd be like, okay, this is a car movie.

[A]

This isn't. I would cancel. I would cancel the show.

[B]

That's true. And your fans Would be like, yes, mother. God.

[A]

I wanted to go more than anything, but I just felt guilty leaving Moses with the kids. But I just wanted to go. But I haven't been more depressed about anything in my entire life.

[B]

Get a plane to Chicago. Get on a jet to Chicago.

[A]

This is how money look. I can't leave them three kids. I don't think you can.

[B]

Chicago. Chicago. I'll go with you. I'll help watch the, the kids.

[A]

Makoa.

[B]

He'll just be rocking them.

[A]

I don't think you can bring a three week. No. In the Four Seasons. Oh, okay. I was like, what? Bring the kids? Yeah. My heart. Maybe, maybe I'm. I'm saying this so much to put it out there again that it's going to happen. But I don't know if I can realistically travel to Chicago to go see them. Although I was looking at flights this morning. There is a 6am that gets you there at noon and the shop shows at 8. And I could come back at 6am and be back by 6am Pacific. Trish, I think it could be a 24 hour time.

[B]

I hate to be that friend, I really do, but I think you have to go.

[A]

I think, I think this is one thing Moses might be like, no.

[B]

It'S so funny. I never like, it's like, oh, but it's like he's right.

[A]

I know. And that's the thing. I think if he didn't do everything for our kids, I could be like, let me have fun. I'm a mom. I work so hard. But he's been working so hard and I've been doing nothing. And I'm just like, let me not. So be selfish and be like, can I actually just go to Chicago while I leave you with the kids for 24 hours?

[B]

What if I watch the kids?

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[B]

Maybe not Aquaman. Not Aquaman. I got Malibu Nova. So Aquaman's too new.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I know.

[B]

I, like, want this for you bad.

[A]

No, I was, like, weirdly depressed and I was like, really, like, crying non stop about it. And I was like, this is so weird. This happened my first pregnancy and it was. And my second pregnancy had no postpartum. I had zero depression, zero baby blues. And maybe because medical rance wasn't too hard ring at the time, but my first one was the same thing. It was like a week later. LA was their last stop and I, like, couldn't go.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

And yeah.

[B]

And so timing out the babies is crazy. It's like, wild. No, I think it's gonna happen again.

[A]

No. But also, it's their only tour where they're doing the full black parade from start to finish. Like, the full album from, like, song one to song two.

[B]

How much for a home performance?

[A]

I think it's 3.5 million. I looked into it for the wedding.

[B]

What?

[A]

Yeah, I would.

[B]

I'm not, like, on their worth at all. Okay. But, like, there's gotta be a, like, Trisha discount.

[A]

Yeah, I would pay Gerard Way acoustic show. Gerard Way acoustic show.

[B]

Like, there's gotta be like, 100 grand day.

[A]

Right?

[B]

And then we're like, we'll.

[A]

We'll get people pooling 100 grand. I know they're doing stadiums, they're doing Dodgers two nights in a row.

[B]

I'm really trying because think. Think about it. Like, a young, like, lit person was like, I need not Loveline in my living room. Like, we, like, we would maybe give.

[A]

Them a little bit of a discount where us. This is like, Gerard Way. Who's not on social media, who's 48, who probably doesn't want to do this except for stadium tours. It's like, no, thank you. I need no money. He did Umbrella Academy three seasons. Is his show on Netflix? Like, I don't think he cares. I didn't get to meet him, so I don't want to feel, like, selfish. Like, I did get to meet him. And I'm like, okay, that was nice.

[B]

But no, we got to get you to this show. I think we have to look into, like, jets to Chicago opener for Kia Forum show. He's our Opener. That's an arena.

[A]

He. Oh, arena. Yes. He does stadiums, everybody. They're doing Fenway Park. They're doing Dodger Stadium two nights in a row.

[B]

I think we got to go to Chicago. I think Moses will forgive us.

[A]

I don't. I know, I know. But I would feel bad.

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[A]

Jake and Johnny were there, and I was like, wow. I could have ran into them and been like, hey, guys.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

No, everybody was there. But that's fine. It's okay.

[B]

No, we're gonna. I'm gonna. I'm just. We gotta. We gotta.

[A]

It's not a big deal. I feel like. Do you remember Teen mom, when Janelle was like, I have to go to the Kesha concert, but she was supposed to turn herself in for parole. Do you remember that episode? And she was like. Literally had to turn herself in. And her lawyer's like, but I have to go to Kesha that night. He's like, no, you got to turn yourself in. And she goes, no, but you don't understand. It's Kesha. And, like, I understood it so deeply. And I was like, that's how I feel.

[B]

Yeah, you're on parole, diva.

[A]

Yeah, it was parole. No problem. I'd say, yeah, I am.

[B]

I'll come to you always.

[A]

And I need to be grateful. I need to be grateful for.

[B]

It's okay to be like, wow, I really want to do this thing. And I'm sad.

[A]

It's so stupid.

[B]

And it's like, not. I'm not diminishing this at all. I'm more so. Just saying, like, sometimes when I'm feeling a lot of emotions about a lot of things, too, and then there's something else, and I'm like. And this, like, that's. That's your am, Miss.

[A]

This is the worst. This is, like, worse than anything else. Like, I don't care if I'm fat for the rest of my life. I don't care. You know what I mean? Like, if eating cheeseburgers take 10 years off my life. I don't care. Like, I don't care about any of that. It's just more like.

[B]

Like, I'm meeting that she's. You know, you got to see him, though. You got to see Gerard Way. You got to see it all.

[A]

It's just like. Also, he's like, they're. They're wearing the black parade costumes, and, like, you know, he's perform. I don't know.

[B]

It's just like, no, you're p. I'm like, I literally I don't think you understand.

[A]

Yeah, we got to go to Chicago. It's so stupid. It's so dumb. It's not even, like, I've been, like, a fan since birth either. I literally just became fan, like, four years ago, and I'm like, these are my life.

[B]

Don't. That's. That's me. That's me. That's me.

[A]

Yeah. Anyways, all right.

[B]

We need to talk about Happy Gilmore so you can be a fan.

[A]

Oh, my God. How do you feel? People were like when they found out because they did a little podcast. Did you watch it? They did a little podcaster, and they like, how does Tana feel?

[B]

Oh, my God. It's. I mean, it's funny because BFFs interviewed Adam Sandler, and I was getting tagged.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I saw that so much.

[A]

I saw the tags about you. They're like, no, this should have been Tana.

[B]

I was like, oh, my. And I did have, like, a little, like. I'm not even gonna lie, like, our crash out. I hate to admit it, because it's nothing to do with, like, BFFs or their success at all. Like, truly, like, that's so awesome that you guys got to interview Adam Sandler.

[A]

I'm just like, adam Sandler.

[B]

Like, what is it my turn? This is why. It's not. I'm aware that it's not. I already see this being, like, clipped, and I'm just like. I'm not talking. I just like, oh, my God. I think Alex Earl is beautiful, perfect, and amazing, and, like, I don't know. Like, I do think that that role. Role, like, she was perfect in that. That's like, death. Like, I was happy to see her on the screen, and I was like, you know what got me going more than that, actually?

[A]

You're so nice.

[B]

Is that Ethan Kickoski and Connor Sherry.

[A]

Who are they?

[B]

They played his sons. Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And both of them are my good friends, especially Connor. Like, good. Like, I've known Connor for a minute now, and, like, I was hanging out with him, and he was like, I'm gonna become an actor, like, type of thing. Like, I'm really gonna take this acting thing seriously. And I was like, go, K. And then, like, I, like, I had to, like, triple take. I was like, what the. Like, he's in. No, I didn't know. And then Ethan as well, he. Cat, I love him. And I was like, like, what do you mean? Two of my, like, good friends and people I've spent so much time with are playing his son.

[A]

Text Them like, did you text them and be like.

[B]

I was texting Connor and I was, like, asking him everything. And obviously he was just being very. He was like, he's everything. You think he'd be like, Hawaiian shirts and so happy to be there. And it was the best thing ever. I didn't bother e cat, but, like, I just. Which one.

[A]

Which ones are they? Because there's four sons.

[B]

Yes. Curly hair and then the one who was in Shameless.

[A]

Actually, I don't even know how to differentiate any of them. There's a one big one I know, and I don't know the other ones.

[B]

No, it's. It's like the. The other two ones, but something about just, like, seeing these people that I've been in such, like, intimate, normal light. Like, even, like, so when I see. See her, like, I see Alex Earl on, like, red carpets and at events and stuff. Like, you know what I mean? So I, like, have this image of Alex Earl that I, like, hold her to this Alex Earl standard. So seeing these people that I just, like, know so well, like, I was just like, oh, my God.

[A]

I.

[B]

And then my whole timeline is just.

[A]

People with Adam Sandler.

[B]

I sound like a crazy person.

[A]

No, I. But that's how I feel. That's exactly how I feel. I. And it's so. And it's so real. And I always wonder, do every. Does everybody feel this way? And I'm talking.

[B]

No, I'm talking people from my high school with Adam Sandler. Like, I saw two girls from my high school, like, at a restaurant. They ran into him, and I'm just like, oh, my God. Like, I get it when I see Kid Cudi with Adam Sandler on the timeline. Right. But, like, what do you mean?

[A]

This. I have biology with. What do you think you chalk it up to, like, how do you.

[B]

Insanity?

[A]

Because I thought. I try to feel, too, and that's why I was like, like, okay. Right. But I knew I had, like, you know what? I got to meet Gerard at rehearsal. That's fine. That's where we were meant to connect. But you never connected.

[B]

So I'm trying to think to myself really deep down, too, because I'm like, why the. Do you feel entitled to meet Adam Sandler?

[A]

Yeah, no, that part's scary to me, too. For me. Yeah. It's like, why do I have to be there?

[B]

I'm not saying that about, like, anything else. I'm literally just saying, like, what if you were meant to never meet this person and idolize them and love them? That is a Very full and happy. Happy life. That's a very full and happy life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Even last night, I like. And people tell me this a lot. Like, my meet and greets are just, like, my fans are very, very sweet. But this girl commented was like, I love you so much. Like, you're my Adam Sandler. And I'm like, I literally have, like, hundreds of thousands of girls and gays telling me I'm their Adam Sandler.

[A]

It's like, literally.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

But. But don't you get it? Then, like, when I meet people at meet and greets and they're like, I'm so sorry. I'm crying. I'm like, nope, I get it. Even though I don't get it's me, because, like, whatever. But I, like, get it because I'm like that with people and it's like, oh, a weird.

[B]

I don't get it.

[A]

No.

[B]

Being a fan is, like, the. One of the most exciting things life has to offer. I think anyone who thinks being a fan of things or people is corny. You're corny. Rethink it.

[A]

But so many people are not so many people, like, don't care. Like, truly Moses has. Does not care about meeting any celebrities. I'm like, what do you mean you don't care about meeting celebrities? That's so weird.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is it? So it's a girl thing or is it?

[B]

I don't think so. I think because a lot of guys are like that about, like, football players and, you know, like.

[A]

But you think guys want to meet football player? I don't know. Maybe they do. Yeah. Do like, we would, like, you cry over different.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's like, certain people I like, cry, like Donny Osman. I cry every time I meet him. I'm like, thank you for being like, my father figure. Like, I always say that.

[B]

I'm not kidding. Yeah. And it's so.

[A]

It is a weird thing.

[B]

Like, fan girl is, like, the term. I guess, like, they started saying fanboy, but, like, you know what I mean?

[A]

But you feel it so deeply. And I realize I'm not the only one either. When I see the MCR on my Tik Tok, I see it every weekend because they go on tour every weekend and people are just like, like, I'm. I'm crying. It was like a spiritual experience. I'm like, everyone feels this way. Yeah, but why is that?

[B]

I don't know. I'm wondering if I'm personally, like, on a spectrum and this is, like, my favorite person and I have, like, some type of situation. Because it's like, I do put Adam Sandler on such a pedestal.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I do. I also just love him. Like, I do. Like, I think. I think that so many people have played the type of roles that he plays, and they do not connect. Like, he's just the most, like, authentic, connectable person ever. And, like, a lot of people end up being bad dads and bad people in real life, like, knowing that, like, he's just. He's the Sandman.

[A]

That part, I think, like, him being, like, such a good husband and, like, father. Like, everyone's like, wow, that's amazing. Like, you're in Hollywood and you've been, like, loyal to the same woman, and you're so sweet. You still praise her, and you put.

[B]

Her in all her movies. Yeah. And you're in your Hawaiian insurance and basketball shorts, and you're just, like, trying to ball and, like, act and make people laugh. Like, he's just, like, literally perfect.

[A]

Gonna wear it. Wear that outfit to the cuz. You were debating on if you're gonna go hot or if you're gonna go Adam Sandler style to his show in Vegas.

[B]

I think I have to do two and just see if he notices me.

[A]

Are you doing two in Vegas or you just gonna go to.

[B]

I think I need to go to two. I think we have to go to the Vegas one. When is it?

[A]

I don't know. No, it's, like, in October, I think.

[B]

And you're manifesting a Vegas residency?

[A]

I think would love. Yes.

[B]

I mean, I would. Oh, my God. You would never be able to get me out of there, out of Vegas. If you had a residency, Trish. I would treat it like we. I'd be like, the broke boyfriend. I'd be like, we have a residency, babe. Like, dead.

[A]

You were the opposite of a broke boyfriend.

[B]

I would be there every day on your couch.

[A]

Well, I'm manifesting you and Adam Sandler movie. It is crazy that there was so many influencers or podcasters in this in particular.

[B]

Brand safe. And they fit the roles amazing. And it's like, I don't know. I just, like, I don't know.

[A]

Bad friends is brand safe.

[B]

Oh, I guess that's true. But they're comedians, and that's the weird loophole. Like, I don't know, you know, crazy.

[A]

Look, I love Alex Jones. I'm an Alex Jones, Stan. But it is crazy because. Because she, like, doesn't have a podcast anymore. I should have podcast for, like, a few months. And she. I'm a podcast or I love It.

[B]

But I get that she. The image, like, she does. She fits it and like.

[A]

But you look like her and you have a podcast of five.

[B]

You're just a pregnancy blindness.

[A]

I feel like you could have. Should have been it.

[B]

I just, I love you. It would have been like the make a wish of a cinch. Right? Like, but it's like, I don't know. You know, I don't. I'm trying just not to because it's like, I don't want to turn this, even with my Chili's thing. To turn something that stems from so much love into a bitterness or an entitlement, I think is also, like, wrong. That's true.

[A]

Or what do they say comparison is?

[B]

Yeah. The root of all evil. That's the thing. It's like, I never want to. You know why? Like, I have the most beautiful life and it's like, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

I know that's. I need to like, just chill because I'm like, I need to not, like, want more in life because I literally have everything.

[B]

I think it's okay to want more, but I think that, like, if things don't work out the way that you think and you have a life that you love and are so happy with and like, whatever, like, at least for me, just in this, I think I like saw that comment and I see that that a lot. But like, I saw it yesterday and I was like, you gotta chill. Like, people are literally saying you're my Adam Sandler. Like, just. That's enough.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. I think just being happy because it's like, like, dude just scared the out.

[B]

Of him for an hour.

[A]

Like, it's like, that's how I feel. I feel like that was like when I met Gerard, I was like, oh my God, we were rehearsing. Next time I got to hear the band play. It's like meeting Adam Sandler like a basketball court in Malibu. You know what I mean? Like, you got to. You got to do it a different way that no one else could. So it's like, I should be happy. Yes. And it's just like, never enough, Trisha. Never. Nothing's enough for me.

[B]

We're insatiable individuals, you know, we are like just in certain ways, which I think is a double edged sword. Being insatiable can be very, like, good because it's like you're hard working and you're. You want things and you're hungry and new goals and new dreams and aspirations and fun things, but also like, it can be a slippery slope.

[A]

I gotta just be happy where I'm at. Especially, like, these podcasts. Like, they're literally downstairs in our basement. I don't have to go anywhere for work. I'm like, God, this is, like, the best job, the easiest job, the most wonderful job job, and I just need to be happy. I need to stop chasing. Like, I'm like, I want to be.

[B]

Don't beat yourself up either. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, like, it's.

[A]

It's okay. I never do. I usually never do, and I just really have crashed out.

[B]

It's okay.

[A]

It's like, is that the right way to use it? Yes. Yes.

[B]

I just, like, I loved it. It was real. You were real for that. Adam Sandler's dates are October 31st and November 1st.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

See app for details. Okay, scaring you. I'm gonna scare this. I love it. No, no, I love it.

[B]

I'm, like, November 1st being so creepy.

[A]

How do we meet?

[B]

Yeah, I know. Well, he. I don't know there. I don't think he's doing a meet. I just have to stop.

[A]

I know. I'm serious. I feel weird, too. I feel like, that about me being weird.

[B]

No, it's Adam Sandler. It's my shopping addiction. I didn't even get into that with you. I've got to chill.

[A]

You have a chill.

[B]

I'm insatiable.

[A]

Oh, what is that?

[B]

It's just everything. I can't stop buying.

[A]

I know. I asked Dr. Drew about that, and he didn't give me an answer. I was like, okay.

[B]

But, like, why can't I love feeling something? It's. It's like, especially now that I'm sober, too, I think. For so long, I, like, used this thing to, like, not have the desire to feel so much, and now I'm, like, always looking for to feel.

[A]

Do you have a lot of stuff in your house?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Not, like, hoarding.

[B]

Not hoarding, but I have a lot of clothes. Like, I have, like, a master closet. Closet that is gigantic. And then an entire bedroom that was a nursery. Like originally in the way the house was staged that I turned into a second closet.

[A]

What's a nursery? Like a plant nursery?

[B]

No, like a baby. It was like a whole room for a whole human that I'm like, this is for my boots.

[A]

You turn in your closet because I think you have to like we got to the point where it was like hoarding and I was like, I can't buy anything else. So I think you have to get to a point where you just buy too much, where you feel like you're suffocating by your own stuff.

[B]

I'm there clothes wise. Like, it would take me an entire lifetime to wear all this, the clothes I have. So I just like, I'm this kind of person, you know, I mean this is like city. That's what I'm saying. Like, I just, like, I think that.

[A]

Will cure over time because I was like such a shopping addict. And like in the past three years, I think I've just stopped.

[B]

You know what it is too is that I genuinely love like clothes and history. Like, like the history of clothes. Like on like even just like a Fendi baguette. Like, I love like knowing all the history of it and like getting different ones from different eras and. And like, you know what I mean? Like, I love like. But it's like there's got to be a way to love that and that be your passion without like swiping for that. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah, I don't know the answer to that one. I was a shopping holic where I would literally, If I made $200,000 a month, I spent all $200,000 on shopping. So at least you own a house, which is good. So that means you have some. I had nothing. I had nothing to show for any money. Yeah. And then. But I do think, like, I just think over time it'll like stop. I don't know. I'm also like a food addict. I don't know how to stop that. So I can't help you with everything. But maybe shopping as I'm 10 folder, I'm like, well, I think it could. Maybe it'll stop over time. I need to find a way to.

[B]

Exhaust my passion for fashion without.

[A]

I think you will.

[B]

I've been trying to sell my clothes on Depop though. Like get back into that. So at least I feel like there's like a cycle.

[A]

I do that too.

[B]

You know what I mean? So it's like if something new is coming in, I feel like I'm replacing it.

[A]

I do that with designer bags. I have to sell a designer bag in order to get a new one. Because I do love a designer bag and never use it. And it's a good way to live.

[B]

And I always look at people who are minimalists and I'm like, Like, I.

[A]

Want to be that.

[B]

Yes. But, like, I'm too far gone.

[A]

I know. You just. Yeah, same, you know, And I don't.

[B]

Have that because, like, even like the other day, Ashley and I are in home goods. I went there to get a pillow, and that's all I needed. Like. Like a sleeping flat, white pillow. That's all I needed. I'm like, I just, like, want things. Like, I love things.

[A]

Yeah, I love things. Me too. I love things too. I can't. I can't lie.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Like, this is the keep.

[B]

This is as good as an ssri.

[A]

What is an ssri?

[B]

Like a Prozac. Like, this is like, as good as, like, popping. No, it's not. Don't take that advice.

[A]

Well, that should be good. You replaced one addiction with another. I think that's okay. It's a personality addiction too, so it's not a bad thing.

[B]

It's just. It is what it is, but okay. I love you and I'm so happy to be back.

[A]

I love you too, and I'm so happy in life. No one call anybody on me. I'm good.

[B]

No one call anybody on me. I'll be checking in. I'll be checking in.

[A]

You know, they ask if the doctor like to circle things. Like, if you're like, how you're feeling. I'm like, if I put him sad, are you going to, like, take me away? He's like, no, we just, like, give you someone to talk to. And I was like, because I am so happy. I am so happy. Yeah.

[B]

And I think you can be on this roller coaster of emotion. It's also just a lot of emotion. Like, I can't imagine, obviously, because I'm not in your shoes, but, like, the last baby too has got to be like, yeah. A wave of emotion that, like, even if you're not, like, you know, you don't want more kids. Like, two things can be true there, right? Where you're like, oh, my God.

[A]

But like, no, the thing is, like, I would love like, seven more kids. Like, just knowing the. That we, like the age we can't physically, I couldn't carry financially, attention wise, we can't give it. Like, it's like that part makes me sad. Like, I wish I could have like eight kids.

[B]

But. But these three is still a lot. Three is a lot of kids.

[A]

Three is a lot.

[B]

You have three kids. That's a lot of kids.

[A]

Juggling. It feels like juggling. It feels like juggling. There's only two of us. And it's just.

[B]

Yeah. Cuz like before it's like you guys are equally.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Can disperse yourself to one child and like whatever. But I think that it'll get easier and then you'll still have time to be an icon. If you had seven kids you'd need like a TLC show and that's it.

[A]

Love that Johnny K. That'd be kind of everything. No. And they turn out well. They turned out fine. But I know they said they have been happy with the way they were raised a lot of those kids. So.

[B]

Yeah. That was crazy.

[A]

I think that's what stops I used to watch.

[B]

You don't like it. Just. You know. Quality of Life is on 10 and you're going to be feeling good. You are. You'll feel good again.

[A]

I need a ssi. Maybe. I don't know. I know. You never know.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

I mean.

[B]

But there will be a new normal and a good normal in all the things.

[A]

My chemical imbalance.

[B]

Yeah. My chemical imbalance in my head. But that's like kind of mcb. You know. I'm mci. Get me off the mic.

[A]

We're gonna get sexy. What? We're just sad. On the next of the Patreon. We're gonna get sexy.

[B]

On paper, sad sex is a whole conversation. We could talk about.

[A]

I can't have any sex until I stop bleeding. I'm wearing a diaper.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

It's good. I can't feel it lead. I can't go to the pool. I can't do anything.

[B]

Oh. Because it was always a C section before. Let's. I have questions. But I. I'll save it for the.

[A]

Patreon and all because it's my hemorrhoid.

[B]

Oh my. You could. What could you do? How's your functioning?

[A]

I'll let you know. This see [e-mail] not loveline.

[B]

We're going to find out how Trisha is functioning.

[A]

Bye.