Not Loveline
Hosts: Tana Mongeau & Trisha Paytas
Episode: Cringey YouTuber Apologies + In Love With My Gay Bestie!?
Date: August 18, 2025
Episode Overview
In this relaxed, pajama-clad episode, Tana and Trisha invite listeners into their chaotic, comedic corner of the internet to dish out (not-so-expert) love and life advice. This week, they cover everything from the phenomenon of “cringey YouTuber apologies” to navigating intense intimacy with a gay best friend, and reminisce on the wildest moments of YouTube culture and their own personal journeys. The conversation is packed with iconic tangents, heartfelt advice for callers, and classic Tana-Trisha banter—equal parts hilarious and honest.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Set & Vibes: Golden Girls, Pajamas, and Dream Photo Shoots (01:23–08:09)
- The hosts lean into cozy, “Golden Girls” energy, joking about their friendship in old age and fantasizing about communal compounds.
- They discuss their love for pajama episodes and elaborate (often animal print) set designs.
- Notable: Trisha goes into detail about her desire for a new, wild set: “Maybe like a red wall with like a zebra heart that’s furry…” (04:22).
- Trisha shares her quest for a custom vinyl leopard dress inspired by Euphoria and the frustrations of not finding the right fabric.
2. The Playboy Photo Shoot & Separating Art From the Artist (09:01–16:15)
- Tana brings up wanting to hang a vintage Dolly Parton/Playboy photo in her house but feeling conflicted about Hugh Hefner's presence in it.
- Tana: “Separate the art from the artist.” (09:38)
- Both hosts share inside stories of their own Playboy shoots, praising the brand’s evolution, but also poking fun at the “bring your own everything” approach now versus the Hefner era.
- “I was paying to do this. But okay, yeah, that’s real.” – Trisha (13:39)
3. YouTube, Fame, and the Economy of Internet Drama (15:13–19:00)
- Discussion about the economics of being a Playmate or reality show contestant and the unfairness of prize/appearance fees vs. show profits.
- Trisha recalls AGT memories, the nature of reality TV fame, and reflects on big YouTubers making serious money from daily vlogging.
Caller Advice Segments
Call #1: Intimacy with My Gay Best Friend
[19:59–25:42] Caller: Explains cuddling intimately with her gay best friend—wondering if it’s normal, emotionally dangerous, or a “perk.”
- Tana's Raw Reaction (21:15): “That made me horny. I need to get laid. Like, I was like, oh my god.”
- They discuss emotional/physical intimacy with gay friends, referencing similar stories of blurred friendship lines and real feelings.
- Tana warns about the risk of emotional investment: “If it keeps happening and you start to feel a type of way, you definitely have to bring it up or stop it.” (24:17)
- Trisha, voice of experience: “You end up breaking your own heart...I knew, there’s so many gay boyfriends I’ve had, I’m like, they led me on, whatever, but at the end, like, I knew.” (25:13)
- Both ultimately advise self-awareness, open communication, and prioritizing your own emotional health.
Takeaway:
These friendships can be fulfilling but come with risks—it’s easy to develop deeper feelings, so check in with yourself and be honest if the dynamic changes.
Call #2: Not the Favorite Friend
[46:25–49:59] Caller: Recent grad feeling like “not the favorite” in her friend group post-college, reluctant to rely only on her boyfriend for closeness.
- Tana: “Really good friends will never have you questioning your place in their life.” (47:49)
- Both agree transitional periods are natural and this is an opportunity to explore new connections where you feel valued.
- Trisha: “Go where you feel good!” (49:13)
Takeaway:
Listen to your instincts, and don’t be afraid to seek new friendships. True friends reinforce your value without ambiguity.
Call #3: Grieving Lost Love & Getting Back Out There
[51:50–58:14] Caller: Lost her boyfriend of 7 years in a traumatic event, struggling to date again at age 30.
- Tana: “Grief is love with nowhere to go...the person you lost will always be a part of you.” (53:16)
“You want your next partner to be someone who says, this person is with us.” - Trisha adds: “You’re already out there, already thinking about apps, you’re young, you deserve to find love again.” (55:53)
- They suggest embracing the timing, considering therapy, and seeking someone who respects her past and journey.
- Both stress: a supportive partner will welcome, not shy away from, her grief and memories.
Takeaway:
Healing is non-linear, but seeking love again is a triumph; the right partner will honor your story.
Call #4: Instant Connection—Love Bomb or the Real Thing?
[58:45–71:22] Caller: After one great date, wonders—is this “love bombing” or just genuine chemistry? Asks how Tana and Trisha knew Moses/Mokoa were “the one.”
- Tana underscores caution and time: “As love bombing became a buzzword, a guy gets a girl flowers and it’s like, am I being love bombed? Time tells all.” (59:58)
- Trisha: “Even in our toxicity, there was something pulling us back together...he was constantly there for me at my lowest.” (63:00)
- Both highlight:
- Consistency and how your partner shows up for you
- Overcoming hardships together
- Respect and admiration for each other as people
- Feeling truly “seen,” no matter how messy or raw
- Personal stories abound: Trisha describes Moses Googling how to love someone with borderline personality because he wanted to understand her; Tana recalls instantly “gagging” for Mokoa and engaging in deep conversation from the start.
Takeaway:
Real connection isn’t just initial chemistry—it’s how someone invests, shows up in hard times, and makes you feel truly accepted. Love bombing feels intense but isn’t sustained; the real thing grows through challenges and empathy.
Notable Quotes & Moments
- “We’re not experts and we’re not love therapists—but we are hot…and gorgeous and broken.”
– Trisha & Tana (02:29) - Tana on Jaclyn Hill drama:
“People might as well have been in the street, car alarm blaring, screaming like The Purge over Jaclyn Hill’s lipsticks. That was so crazy.” (36:15) - Trisha on internet mob mentality:
“2019 was unhinged for everybody. I was like, what is happening?” (36:54) - Tana on relationships:
“Your true best friendships in life will never have you questioning it.” (49:27) - Trisha on lasting love:
“He saw me for more than just surface—even if I had a lot wrong with me, he’s like, God made you in a perfect way.” (67:14)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 01:23 – “Golden Girls” energy, pajama episode chat
- 09:01 – Art vs. artist: Playboy/Dolly Parton/Feminism
- 19:59 – Gay best friend intimacy call
- 46:25 – Not the favorite friend post-college call
- 51:50 – Dating after bereavement call
- 58:45 – “Love bombed or real thing?” caller
- 36:15 – Jaclyn Hill mass hysteria/apology videos tangent
Episode Tone
Unfiltered, playful, and sincere—a mix of wild honesty and warmth. Both hosts are self-aware and willing to poke fun at themselves and their pasts, while also offering genuine empathy to listeners.
Final Thoughts
This episode is an encapsulation of what fans adore: wild yet relatable tangents, honest stories, and non-judgmental, funny takes on tough questions. Whether dissecting YouTube scandals, discussing trauma, or giving hard-won advice, Tana and Trisha leave listeners with both laughter and real validation.