DREAMING BIG FOR 2026 AND LEARNING FROM PAST RELATIONSHIPS

Summary

Not Loveline with Tana Mongeau & Trish Paytas

Episode: DREAMING BIG FOR 2026 AND LEARNING FROM PAST RELATIONSHIPS

Date: December 22, 2025

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Episode Overview

Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas close out Not Loveline’s year with a reflective, heartfelt conversation about growth, manifesting dreams for 2026, and the lessons learned from their past (and present) relationships. The duo dive into their friendship, personal milestones, audience love, the importance of self-respect, and listener questions—infused with classic humor, vulnerability, and signature “girl’s sleepover” energy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Celebrating the Not Loveline Community (01:32–06:47)

• Listener Engagement & Gratitude: Tana recounts, “We’re sitting on 17,000 calls right now, which is just insane. Thank you for sharing your lives with us and caring about our lives a lot.” (01:32)
• Both express joy and pride in building a supportive, non-judgmental space for women and anyone seeking advice, emphasizing the depth and breadth of their conversations throughout the year.

2. Friendship & Dreams for 2026 (03:36–07:05)

• The hosts reflect on the strength and impact of their own friendship, describing how it’s inspired listeners to trust and try friendship again.
• Manifesting Big Things: “I am excited for 2026. We’re going to the Forum and Madison Square Garden.” (Tana, 06:48)

3. Milestones & Growth (06:13–15:29)

• Protecting Their Space: Despite offers, Tana is adamant about keeping the podcast authentic: “What we have here, I wouldn’t change a thing.” (06:13)
• Personal Evolution: Episodes are described as periods of “hope core,” signaling a phase where both are focused on being positive examples.

4. Reflecting on Past Relationships—Advice for Younger Selves (15:29–19:03)

• Tana and Trish open up about toxic relationships in their 20s and what they’d tell their younger selves.
  • Tana: “Just living proof that life gets better when you put yourself first… I wish I could have protected myself from so many things... I spent so much of my life trying to make people love me.” (16:28)
  • Trish: “The good is so good—means the bad is so bad. Run.” (17:25)
  • Both stress not settling for relationships that drain you, encouraging young listeners to walk away if things don’t feel right early on.

5. Practical Relationship & Life Wisdom (17:37–19:08)

• If the talking stage isn’t blissful, leave. Don’t wait for things to improve.
• “If this person is not making your life easier and better, why do it?” (18:00, Tana)
• Trish: “They should make your life easier, not harder.”

6. Year Reflections & Manifesting Peace (21:28–25:53)

• Personal Highlights: Tana credits her year’s highlight to prioritizing personal peace and sobriety: “I found out what I need for my peace this year and started really prioritizing that.” (21:36)
• Trish notes deeper self-acceptance and “tapping into witchiness” by embracing rituals for letting go of fears.

7. Inspiring & Being Inspired—Female Friendship (27:05–30:05)

• Tana shares, “Something that happened to me a lot in 2026 was I started surrounding myself with women who really inspire me...” (27:49)
• They discuss how true friends push each other toward positivity, acknowledging growth and support.

8. Loyalty, Change, and Audience Connection (30:05–34:18)

• Both reminisce on initial fears and gambles starting the podcast together, now feeling they've built a loyal "family."
• Tana recalls Lil Wayne’s mantra—“I ain’t shit without y’all”—and connects this to their gratitude for listeners: “Everything I have is because of you. Like, this is an honor.” (33:02)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Moving On From Toxic Relationships:
  “If the talking stage with someone is not bliss, run while you can... It will only get worse.” — Tana (18:00)
• On Feeling Understood:
  “When people ask me about you, it feels like you’re this cool little sister that everyone loves.” — Trish (03:36)
• On Performance and Authenticity:
  “I'd rather protect what Not Loveline is… If it ain't broke, don't fix it.” — Tana (06:13)
• On Audience Connection:
  “You resonated with something that was very close on my heart, which means there are more similarities with us than differences.” — Tana (34:03)
• On Boundaries with Media Appearances:
  (On skipping controversial podcasts) “I would hate to be like, portrayed or backed into a corner.” — Tana (46:24)
• Affirming Each Other:
  “You’re so hard working... I've got to channel a new side because I've gotten to be so inspired. You're so hardworking, you go, you chase your dreams...” — Tana to Trish (27:49)

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Listener Questions & Crowd Wisdom

1. Wig Confidence (35:17–38:11)

Caller: Nervous about wearing a wig, feels it looks good on others, but not herself.

• Tana: “Anyone who’s gonna think something judgmental about what you’re doing, you don’t want them on your team anyway.”
• Trish: “Wigs changed my life. No one bats an eye—everyone loves a wig.”
• Shared wisdom: Life is short—have fun, experiment, and surround yourself with nonjudgmental people.

2. Non-Alcoholic Beverages & Sobriety (56:30–59:32)

Caller Dana: Six years sober; asks their take on non-alcoholic drinks.

• Tana: “Whatever works for someone, they should do… I hate non-alcoholic beer, but I love a cute mocktail. Put a flower on that, I’m sold.”
• Trish: Emphasizes celebrating with non-alcoholic options, e.g., sparkling cider (Martinelli’s) as a ritual.
• Both express strong support for everyone's unique sobriety journey and celebrate the listener’s milestone.

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Fun Segments & Game Highlights

Heads Up! Collaborator Guessing Game (61:15–66:06)

• The hosts play a classic personality guessing game (e.g., Nora Smith, Bethenny Frankel), showcasing their playful rapport.

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2026 Intentions & “Hope Core” (Throughout)

• Both hosts are determined to maintain stability, surround themselves with positive influences, take themselves and their platforms seriously, stop self-deprecation, and give back through charity (e.g., Tana's idea for TanaKan, influencer-led food drives).
• “The synchronicity of stable everything—love life, career, women around us, people taking us seriously, and us taking ourselves seriously.” — Trish (51:35)
• Emphasis on evolving beyond overconsumption, supporting Hawaii and charitable causes.

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Community Love & Closing Messages

• Final notes to the listeners:
  “We hope that Trisha and I truly can serve to you that life does get better. I hope we can be your hope core in that regard. We’re so excited for 2026 and love you so, so much, our Not Loveline family.” — Tana (66:49)

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[Key Timestamps]

00:56 – Show starts after ads
01:32 – Listener gratitude and community appreciation
06:13 – Panel’s commitment to authenticity
16:28 – Lessons and advice from past relationships
21:36 – 2025 highlights and personal peace
24:20 – On types and what truly matters in partners
27:49 – Women who inspire—and being inspired
33:02 – Audience connection/Lil Wayne reference
35:17 – Wig confidence question & empowerment
56:30 – Listener on sobriety and NA drinks
61:15 – “Heads Up!” guessing game
66:49 – Heartfelt signoff and New Year wishes

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Takeaways

This episode intertwines vulnerability and joyous aspiration, offering authentic relationship advice peppered with humor, practical insights, and honest stories. Tana and Trish’s deep appreciation for their audience and for each other shines through, making it a meaningful wrap-up to the year, and a rallying cry to “dream big for 2026.”

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

What was the decision? It's so frustrating too, when it is like someone you know and it's just like, ugh, they can only do. You can only tell them so much because ultimately people make their own decisions. And I'm that person that's been in a relationship that's like, you don't know though, you know, and you just like, stay in it despite everyone else being like, he doesn't want you. He doesn't like you. Doesn't whatever. And you're just like, no. But you don't know him like I do. Last episode of Not Loveline of the year.

[A]

The year. Oh, my goodness, what a beautiful year of Not Love light it's been though. And all of the girls like that come up to me everywhere I go and tell me that they love this show and are just so sweet. And like, we have. We're sitting on 17, 000 calls right now, which is just insane. Like, so insane. Thank you for sharing your lives with us and caring about our lives a lot. I would say a lot of this year's episodes were yap. And that's just like, it's the biggest honor in the world that there are so many girls out there who care about the intricacies of our lives.

[B]

Yeah. And really also just getting to use past situationships, relationships and like, help others. I think if one thing in my life, like, it was pretty for a while, it's like, at least I can use it as, like, hope core, as some inspiration, as some wisdom, you know? I was like, I feel like relatively qualified because I can like we were talking about on our Patreon. Patreon.com not loving. We're just talking about how like people who like kink, shame. And I'm like, yeah, I guess it's, you know, I guess people can kink, shame, whatever. But I'm like not. That's definitely not us. I'm very much like whatever flows your boats as long as like not illegal or hurting anybody animals. Like we're good. But yeah, I feel like just coming from a place of non judgment is where it's at.

[A]

Yeah. Like not judging genuinely.

[B]

It's a new title.

[A]

It really honestly it's. It's so true because it's like that's all I feel like you and I have wanted to do across this is create a safe space for the girlies. Whether it's about I want to break up with this person. Am I in the wrong here? Like I want to go sober. I would talk to me about your eating habits. We, the amount of just things, the scale that we have been able to cover across this truly is something that I'm so proud of. And like it all does come from these learned experiences. Not only in our shoes with what we do for a living, but like and just the lives we've led, but also just as women. Like, I feel like so many things, like even though we're through a screen right now and I know that we're not literally together in the same room, not Loveline makes me feel like we are together in the same room and like we are all just girls trying to figure out and at least we have each other to like do it.

[B]

With, you know, which is why it would be fun too to do like a live tour, like a live mean greet thing. Because it is so fun. Like when people ask me about you, like, it really feels like you're like this cool like little sister that everyone loves and God, I wish she was here. She would love to hear, you know what I mean? So I think if we did it together, it is so fun because it is so wonderful to get to connect in real life.

[A]

I feel the same way. And the especially even just the connection that I have with people over our friendship and how it inspires people, you know what I mean, to maybe like try friendship again or that there are girls out there that like can support you and love you and there's like no weird like whatever. I think I really imagine that if we did a not loveline meet and greet that I would Just be crying, like, a lot of the time. Because even just the calls, like, imagine when you, like, met a girl who's like, I called in.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, like, I hear it all the time.

[B]

Oh, I did this call. I did this call, and I was like, wait, really? It's so wild, people. Yeah, it's really cool. It's, like, to see a face to a call.

[A]

And I'm just really excited for 2026 and everything that's going to happen and not Loveline has opened doors for us and, like, manifested a lot of things for us. And, like, I'm just. I'm so grateful. I know I'm just, like, a broken.

[B]

Record, but we have been on it, too. I was just telling Tina, like, she literally comes on the dot now. Like, it's so insane. Like, you haven't been for, like, a really long time. Like, even, like, the first episode, you were like, you. You haven't been late, but you are on the dot. Like, I. It's, like, crazy because I. I schedule things, you know, I try to give, like, a little leeway, and I'm like, oh, my God, you're, like, right here on time, which is, like, the best quality, I think that's, like, so amazing. And you really. And you're very busy and you travel a lot, and you, like, make time for. And, like, I really. I really love it. I really love that we pride.

[A]

I think what it is, too, is that when we do a call or a good call, like, I. I leave here feeling better than, like, when I showed up, even, like. And that's also a big testament to you. And I. I'll keep the fork sucking to a minimum, but just, there's never been a moment because obviously when you have a podcast with someone, too, you are. Even before this, we were kind of sharing tea about things that are going on in both of our lives and stuff. Like, when you have a podcast with someone, that is a lot of what it is, too, is just talking about your lives and stuff. And, like, I always leave here feeling better than when I came. Like, even today, my period is sucking the life out of me. But, like, you have. You're just. You're the best. And it's an honor to work with you and an honor to do this show. And it's an honor to feel like we get to help any of the girls and just have such a calm, kind, amazing audience over here. It feels like this secret pocket. I always. We always say that it's like our secret sleepover show, and it's Not a secret at all.

[B]

Like, we love it. We're like, oh, it's so niche.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And we forget to promote it. We always say we, like, love doing this, and we put so much dedication doing. Then, like, literally just came out now, and I was just like, oh, my God, I need to promote this. Like, I get to talk about it, but.

[A]

And I should be, like, probably shoving it down people's throats harder on my socials. But I just. I'm so grateful for what we do have. I think that's for a while, too. In social media, I did just always want more. And then eventually you kind of can learn what the more brings. And the more isn't always the best. Like, I love. I want to protect what not Loveline is with. I'm so protective over. Even with people, like, trying to buy us in this, like, new era. Like, I'm like, wait, but, like, it's so perfect. Like, it's one of those, like, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Like, you know, like, what. What we have here, I wouldn't change. I wouldn't change a thing, you know?

[B]

I agree.

[A]

But I am excited for 2026. We're going to the Forum in Madison Square Garden.

[B]

Done and done. Booked and booked. What's another big one? And, like, we have to go to, like, Toronto. I feel like that's a big one. Chicago is a big one.

[A]

What's the Red Rock?

[B]

Where's Red Rocks?

[A]

What is that is Red Rocks? Where's Red Rocks?

[B]

I love it.

[A]

Colorado.

[B]

Is it the outdoor one? Oh, how do you know about that? That's so random. That's such a random one.

[A]

You said it's like my music lore. Like, people just. When they play Red Rocks, it's like. Like, no, it's crazy.

[B]

That's so random. Like an outdoor amphitheater.

[A]

Like the Greek. It's kind of like the Greek.

[B]

I also want to do one in maybe.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

It was Maui where Britney Spears had her Hawaii concert. It was, like, on the beach, and it was like, all the sea of people on the beach. And then it was her, like, just, like, dancing. And it was, like, outside.

[A]

I wonder if that's legal now.

[B]

You don't think it's, like, it is.

[A]

I just feel like laws have changed, like, so much in the inciting a riot. Laws. That was probably on Oahu, though.

[B]

But they probably, like, had a ticketed event. Like John Stamos, when he played the Beach Boys on Full House.

[A]

Waikiki would be a dream. Of mine, one of our six. We love you, Malibu Barbie.

[B]

I just want to say, came down. She just wanted to show her cute hair with her. She's just so sweet.

[A]

My little angel. A. I love her.

[B]

She's the best.

[A]

Well, yeah, so, I mean, we're in our just Trish pajamas, by the way.

[B]

Wrong podcast. It's like, I love that we're wearing.

[A]

But, like, I just have to say, like, I love them. They're so Y2K.

[B]

So cute. They're my favorite.

[A]

They're my favorite item Trisha's ever made.

[B]

So good. That's so funny. Yeah, I wore them, I think, like, last week, and I. It's actually our most affordable thing to, like, make and sell. Like, they're really, like, affordable. So I'm just like. That was kind of. I was kind of gagged that that was your favorite.

[A]

I just. I think they're so Y2K batty. Like, I would see these on, like, depop, and I'd be like, I want those. Like, you know what I mean? Like, they're just so.

[B]

I love. Oh, that makes me happy. Whenever someone, like, genuinely like something, I was like, okay, that's good.

[A]

Yes. They're so cute. I just. I made. It's so funny. I come here and I'm like, I'll see a merch item. And I'm like, can I get five of those for my whole household? Like, just shopping, Trisha, like, outside, like.

[B]

Trying to find them. But, like, my mom figured it out because I'm, like, so bad at knowing.

[A]

Where things are at. Remembered words.

[B]

I was like, you're a busy girl.

[A]

I'm gonna drink some pickle juice again. Okay.

[B]

How's it making you feel?

[A]

It's fixing my cramps for sure. So that's good. I hope anyone in home, any pickle girls are joining me.

[B]

Okay. Just the juice, not the pickle. Do we take a call? We can take a call.

[A]

We should definitely take a call.

[B]

Let's do it.

[A]

Trisha hates pickles, and I know I scare the out of her every time I do that.

[B]

This is crazy to me, but I.

[A]

It is anything. I would do anything to end this pain right now. It's just day one of the period. What is.

[B]

What food do you find disgusting?

[A]

I find calamari to be utterly repulsive. It is my least favorite food on.

[B]

Planet Earth, above lobster.

[A]

I. I also don't eat lobster because.

[B]

At least calamari, like, fried so you can get a little efficient taste. Like lobsters is a straight up lobster fish.

[A]

When I See the tent, the different shapes, you know, like, I do like different shapes when it comes to like nuggets, like the boot and the, you know, whatnot. But when it comes to the calamari, it's like that was swimming five minutes ago. That is the way it looks to me. Like with all the tentacles and whatn.

[B]

Oh, you're talking about that like little octopus. There's ones that are just the O rings.

[A]

Oh, that's true. And this, the stench, the smell.

[B]

That is crazy because I do not like, like fish. I don't like salmon, I don't like fishy smells. But yeah, Kilmari's kind of chill.

[A]

Blue cheese. I hate blue cheese.

[B]

Yeah, blue cheese is dip or is it anything? Get it all the way.

[A]

Burn it, burn it, burn it. But that's about it for me, I think, right. I don't think I really hate any other foods. I don't really like hearts of palm.

[B]

Like, he loves the hearts of palm.

[A]

Yeah. I'm not into those, but that's like literally very niche.

[B]

Like very. Yeah. Specific. I didn't know what it was, but I met him, I was like, what is this?

[A]

Yeah, it's just like whenever, like if it's in a salad or something, I'm like, take that out. What's your least favorite food?

[B]

Pickles. I cannot, because Malibu likes pickles.

[A]

And if you go, what's like the.

[B]

Stand, they give you like free pickles when you like check out. And so she'll like have it, I swear, like, if she like, especially when I was pregnant, like if she would like touch me, I was like, I would actually like throw up if she like pickles near me or like hand me anything.

[A]

That's why I try to keep so far away from you when I'm doing heinous like that.

[B]

No, no, it actually doesn't bother me now, but. Or like if you get the spicy chicken and they have the pickles and they leave the pickles on, I still taste the pickles. So I'm like not a pickle person. But they are polarizing though. I know. Like Holly loves a pickle. Demi Lovato loves a pickle. Like, you know. Yeah, hot girls love pickles.

[A]

Well, you are a hot girl and it's okay to not love pickles.

[B]

Well, apparently not.

[A]

No, you are.

[B]

I like the way that you are.

[A]

You are. You are a hot girl.

[B]

I didn't realize our anniversaries are so close. My anniversary is this Thursday. It's our four year wedding anniversary. Yeah. Yeah. And I was Just like thinking too. I was like, I. I didn't know what to do for him either. But because of our Patreon, I started to think. I was like, maybe I should spice it up a little because it hasn't been anyways and go to Patreon for that. But I was like, okay. I was trying to figure out things. Did you get Makoa? Oh, you did? You took him to a show? Yeah, I love an experience, but he just doesn't love shows like that.

[A]

And then your idea.

[B]

I was so funny. I tell me his ideas because I know him. Like, I can't just like, like I can't just buy him clothes. He wants to like go with me to pick out the clothes. And I'm like, that's not really a gift, but okay, so then. But I always like to run things by him. So you had a great idea of like doing an art gallery for him. And he. And I'm like, but I'm gonna surprise you. I'm gonna do this. Whatever. He's just like, no, because then you don't know the dimensions of the things and how to get this whole thing. And I was like, ah. Like, it was such a good idea. He liked the idea. Then he's like, but I have to do it. And I was like, but then that's not a gift, you know, that's actually.

[A]

Me and Makoa maybe like, oh my gosh, I have a really cute idea. But it's kind of like time consuming. But like, you could do a scrapbook or like something that's. That's like a portable art gallery, if that makes sense. Do you know what I mean? And you like wrote about the moments.

[B]

Or like his art or like stuff together.

[A]

Stuff together.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I keep seeing people do this thing in shadow boxes. Right? It's okay. This is kind of like a whole thing, but like it's a shadow box. And then inside they will put little photos of like them as a couple. And then they will get little like figurines and benches so that it looks like people are at an art gallery, like, viewing. Oh, but it's easy. Like I could send you. So it looks like people are at an art gallery, like viewing you as a couple. Like, like as our God.

[B]

They get like little people. Where they get the little people.

[A]

Yeah, I don't like Michael's hobby lobby, craft stores type of thing.

[B]

Okay, that sounds really fun.

[A]

Maybe I can send you like Amazon links to all these things. I would love to help you.

[B]

I would love that. Amazon affiliate. Yeah, that would be everything actually.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I love the little. I'm not crafty though. Like I'm bad at like gluing things together and stuff. But I like those little mice. Have you seen them? They're like at Barnes and Noble and they're these like little mice that are dressed up as like doctors and firefighters. They're really cute.

[A]

I love that there was a movie.

[B]

With Steve Carell and Paul Rudd and I think it was called Dinner for Schmucks. I mean which is like I think offensive now to say. You remember? And he used to have those little mice in there. And I've been seeing them at Barnes and Noble. Yeah, that's really.

[A]

You could like just get on Etsy like, like have someone make like a cute custom thing like. Or a cute. Just anything cute and custom for you guys. Like just your names, your photos, your.

[B]

I do love a custom. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well now it's too late because it's a few days away. I know. But, but I in the future. Because he still wants the telescope from his birthday for.

[A]

Yeah. Do you. I love having an annivers Christmas time because I'm like. Even yesterday we were at dinner and I like all these wreaths. Were everyone. I was like this is for us? Yes.

[B]

Like we did our anniversary photos. We got married at Four Seasons and so our wedding, it was decorated. It was like. It was actually weird because our wedding was white winter. Winter wonderland. And Four Seasons had to decorate as Winter wonderland. So every. All our guests were taking photos like in the lobby and it just looked like our fancy decorations and the same thing. We went to do our anniversary photos here. I can actually show you.

[A]

Cuz then I want to see like.

[B]

Okay, we're trying to recreate.

[A]

I always like see that you did one of your pregnancy photos lost themed.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

And I think it's so funny like.

[B]

I love you gagged by that now where is it? Oh yeah. So this was like our wedding picture and then we did our anniversary with all the kids in the same hallway. This is so December 11th.

[A]

So funny. Like how just like as life gets better, you just glow and glow more. Like you look beautiful here. But it's like I'm looking at you here and I'm just like oh my God.

[B]

I agree. The just being happier.

[A]

Yes. The happier you are, the better you look. It's so true.

[B]

No, I, I 100 agree with that. And then the reason I was gonna show you is so that's how they decorate the lobby for Four Seasons so it just looks like like we decorated this, but it's like literally for the Christmas time.

[A]

So cute. They're. Oh my God, you have the most beautiful kids in the world.

[B]

So it has this whole thing. So it's really funny. So I agree with you. And I, I did it by design. Like, I wanted a baby on Christmas. Like, I just love like the holiday season because it just feels like festive, so magical. Yeah. We got engaged December 18th. We got married December 11th. So I just like a December, it's just, it's also like not high. It's just like a wonderful time.

[A]

It is so magical. That's like, you know, that's another thing that I really do love about Not Loveline is that we were able to do it in our like, hope core eras. Because I can't imagine like other versions of me sitting down here and being like, dump him, diva. And I'm like dating someone that I like, needed to dump. Like, you know what I mean? Like, oh, it's nice that like, we get to show the girlies, like just living proof that life gets better when you put yourself first and all those things.

[B]

I agree. Honestly, I would not be sitting here if there was any other era of my life because I, I had no business giving anyone advice because I had no me, literally. At least you had some like, decent relationships that lasted and were substant. No, none of my. So much to learn.

[A]

I had so much to learn. And I also like, did stay in things that weren't serving me for longer than I needed to. Like, you know, I feel like that's.

[B]

A lot of young people in their early 20s. They stay in things.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Would you tell your 20, 20, 21, 22 year old self like, to not be in a relationship or are you like, thankful for him?

[A]

I. That's. It's always the hard battle of like, because I, I am so happy with where I am and I think everything led me to here, to where I wouldn't change anything. But at the same time, like, of course it's like, oh my God, I wish I could have protected myself from like so many things. You know what I mean? I just like trying to make people love me. I spent so much of my life doing that, you know, and just like, just different things like that, I guess where it's like, damn. But at the same time, like, I was a product of my like, environment, you know, I think that like my relationship with my dad, like, then just like, you know what I mean? Like having that, where it's like I'm convincing this father Figure to love me and to, like, be nice and, like, you carry that into your relationships. I've been talking about that a lot with one of my best friends because they were kind of going through something with the guy. And it's just, like, so wild, like, how we as women can, like, get in situations where we're like, but it's good sometimes. And, like, you know, I loved. But it's good sometimes. The good is so good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, oh, my. Whenever I hear. Because that's what she had said that she was like, but the good is good. And I was like, girl, listen to yourself right now. You have to. You have to leave your own body. You were saying, the good is so good. Run, like, because that means the bad is so bad. And run, run, run, run.

[B]

Great advice, actually. And never be able to. Good is so good. I should just always be, like, everything. I always think it's better to just have, like, content and peace throughout. Like, it doesn't need to be good or great all the time. It just needs to be, like, chill all the time. As if it's, like, more comfortable. Yeah. Like, I. I loved being alone. And then when I met someone that, like, enhanced my life, I was like, okay, this is way easier. They should make your life easier, not harder.

[A]

Because, oh, my God, I was saying that to her literally yesterday. I was like, if this person is not literally making your life easier and better, like, why do it? You know what I mean? And, like, oh, my God. That's another, like, set of advice that I just, like, would a give my younger self, but also to all the girlies listening, like, if the talking stage with someone is not bliss, run while you can. I think that I would stay and, like, try to fix, and it would just snowball. And, like, the good was good. So I. Whatever. But, like, if you are newly interacting with someone and it is not only enhancing your life, go. Before it gets turbulent and bad. Like, go. Because it's only going to get worse if that's what it is in the very beginning. Like, if you're already having to convince them to get you flowers or dates, or they're in bad moods all the time, or they're like, you know what I mean? Saying disrespectful things, doing things, not listening to the things that you want. Like, in the very beginning, it will not get better. It will only get worse. Go. Then you don't want to look back and be like, like, you still have the opportunity to not have wasted, like, years.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and it's like, or get.

[B]

That drama on you or anything like that. Save yourself, like, and there's someone out.

[A]

There who will be ecstatic. No matter how broken or lost or anything that you feel, there's someone out there who will be ecstatic to love all of you and take care of you.

[B]

Yeah, you know, that's great advice. That's great advice of the year.

[A]

I've been fired up about that for the past few days because it's like, when people start. My friends, I just. I get really.

[B]

It's so frustrating too, when it is like, someone you know, and it's just like, ugh, they can only do. You can only tell them so much because ultimately people make their own decisions. And I'm that person that's been a relationship that's like, you don't know, though, you know? And you just, like, stay in it. And despite everyone else being like, he doesn't want you. He doesn't like you. Doesn't whatever. And you're just like, no. But you don't know him like I do.

[A]

Yes. And it's like, if you're into. You don't know him like I do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, oh, I've been there so many. He's so misunderstood. And sometimes they are. Sometimes, you know, you do see that good glimpse of him. Or maybe he is misunderstood and the people around you hate him more. But usually if everyone around you is like, no, no, no, they know you and they love you and they have your best interest and they're not clouded either. You're clouded, you're in it, you know? So it's like, yeah, just go. Go when it's easier to go because it gets harder. That's. That was definitely a big thing, you know.

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[A]

We love you. Search and red flags just manifest. Like, red flags end up manifesting and. Oh, just.

[B]

They'll just get brighter and brighter. Well, before we get into the questions, it is last episode of 2025. What has been the highlight of your year?

[A]

The highlight of my top one, I think I found out what I need for my piece this year and, like, just started really prioritizing that and caring about myself in that way. I think I let go of a lot of ideologies that I had about numbers and views and just so many different things. And not only that, but I feel like I've never felt so seen by people. Like, people are just have been so kind to my being sober, like, just my whole journey. And yeah, this, like, getting to come into that, knowing that that's like, what my future is looking like has been by far the highlight of my year.

[B]

Have you done that trend on TikTok? That's like. Like, I don't know how. Huh.

[A]

The camera roll thing kind of where.

[B]

It'S like, you know, you'll go to Maui and break your toe and a guy will try to kiss you. Like, don't, like, make sure you do that or something.

[A]

Again, those Trends in your 20s, you'll find. Yeah, I should do that. Actually, I really shouldn't.

[B]

They do the whole, like, videos of all that. I'm like, did you, you. Did you recently do a montage video of you guys or.

[A]

No, no, but that's funny because I was planning to yesterday. You might just be psychic. I was making an album. Yes, I did.

[B]

I did on Instagram, but not tick.

[A]

Yes, yes, I do love that.

[B]

I know I need to get a folder so I can, like, just easily get to them like these old videos, but it does take a minute.

[A]

It does My camera roll is so fierce.

[B]

I know. I literally was been typing out my caption for the anniversary for like a week now. I'm like, okay, let me just, like, rewrite it. Like, it's like. Yeah, it's a whole thing. You gotta really, like, commit to it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's just cute.

[A]

I love, like, I. I really do. I. I post with Makoa, I think to, like, obviously I post my whole life. I love sharing it, but also to just be like, this is out there for everyone. Because I. I did not think it was out there for me.

[B]

Yeah. But. Oh, same. Yeah. Like, never that.

[A]

Yeah. Like, everything gets better when you start to find your peace and walk that path and actively. I think a lot of the end of this or all of this year really was me kind of having to choose the path that I naturally wouldn't. You know what I mean? Like, almost go against things that I thought and then, like, the universe would reward me for that. Like, go, like, choosing the thing that, like, felt right to my soul, even though it wasn't, like, right on paper to me for so long, you know, and, like, take leaps of faith and.

[B]

Stuff and, like, going against your, like, usual type 2. I mean, obviously McCoy is, like, a literal model, but I'm just saying, like, in general, like, someone that you wouldn't think you would date. Is that, like, that. That was my biggest thing, is like. Like going for someone completely against. Not even type physically, but just type in general. I'm just like, no. To me. I was like, he's so boring. Not knowing that boring meant, like, peaceful and, like, content and everything I needed. And I was like, that's what.

[A]

That's what I was telling my friend, too. I was like, I. With this guy and the thing that's been, like, happening, I was like, I think this is a great lesson for you that, like, maybe you're going for guys with this certain personality and you're realizing that, like, maybe you need the opposite of that. Like, we are. We can be so restrained by our types sometimes, and they might not be good for us as much as we, like, think they are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But just everything too. Like, McCo and I are so great, and I'm so happy about that. But even, like today, before I got here, the entire time I was getting ready, I was on FaceTime with Brooke and we were just, like, laughing and, like, I'm like, I'm gonna go bring her her Christmas gifts at some point. And I was just, like, so happy too, like, that we are able to, like, have that. And, like, you know, just that, like, we made it out of some hard times, you know, and just, like, yeah, we. We definitely could have kept it going. And, like, we didn't for, like, our souls at least. Like, I don't know. And I just, like, seeing her thrive and be happy. Like, I'm so happy with how this year is coming to a close. I'm so happy for her. Like, just every time I call her, good things are happening, and I'm seeing the same thing that's happening for me happen for her, and we're just, like, coming into our peace and coming into our own. And, like, I'm huge. So, so grateful for that, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So many things.

[B]

That's a big thing. And I also feel like you could always come back to stuff, you know what I mean? Like, taking a break or something for your pieces, just, like, where it needs to be. Like, she's engaged. She has a house. She's doing all this fun stuff. That's lovely to hear.

[A]

And, like, our phone calls just don't have to be about all the, like, how to fix and things are.

[B]

Ah.

[A]

And, like, it's just like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, we were just laughing about today, and I was like, this is awesome.

[B]

You know?

[A]

Like, just. I'm so happy with where, like, made.

[B]

It on the other side.

[A]

Yes, we are. We are on the other side.

[B]

I'm excited to see your 2026 or 2026.

[A]

Me too. Everyone. You. I'm so grateful for just so many things that happened this year. I want to know about you. What about you? 2026, for you was a year of so many accomplishments.

[B]

Yeah, I. I've had a great year. This has been, like, best year ever, for sure.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Just great. Honestly, like, kind of the same as you. I love being just able to sleep at night, just having peace of mind. Like, not waking up in the morning being like, what's my phone gonna say? What's my teeth gonna say? Like. Like, I love just having peace of mind. I feel like I've really tapped more into my witchiness. I've learned more, like, moon spells and stuff, because we just had a full moon, and I really. Now I realize what you're supposed to do on a full moon. I used to think, like, one thing, so I did some. Some burning rituals, which was really fun, where you, like, write down things you want to, like, leave behind after the full moon, and that was really fun, and I think it really worked. I was like, wow. So those things are out of my life, which is Wonderful. So I tapped into witchiness, which was really fun. And, yeah, just, like, letting go of fear from stopping me from literally anything. We were talking about acting. Like, I love acting, and I'm so happy I got to do, like, more of it this year and. Yeah, hopefully do more of that.

[A]

I just have to say, it was so cool to get to support you so close to you this year, like, whether it was coming to Broadway or whether it was coming to the shows or just, like, Arby's or dominoes or just, like, seeing these things happen that, like, I know you wanted because I get to talk to you about it. Like, and. And it's. You are just. It's been such an inspiring thing. And to, like, get to show you, like, I'm your cheerleader. I'm gonna be here. I'm gonna support you. Has been so cool.

[B]

Like, you've been the most supportive. Like, literally, we were just sitting here, and she's like, I'm gonna post the domino. Domino's posted, like, the bedazzled boxes on the Just Trishet. And it was, like, just, like, so sweet. But coming to freaking Beetlejuice, like, all of it. Like, you've been very, very supportive. And I am. And that's. I am very thankful for him.

[A]

It's so inspiring. And like, I was saying this in a video about Tarte recently, but. But something that happened to me a lot in 2026 was I started surrounding myself. Like, I was thinking of you and Maureen specifically when I was saying this, but I got to spend a lot of time with women who really inspire me, and I was already spending time with a lot of people who really inspire me. Like, this is not saying that, but I. Like, I. I really did get to form new relationships with or closer relationships with women who really inspire me and just make me want to be better in so many ways. And there have been so many days where, like, maybe I'm not feeling my best or, like, even at that, like, finesse sh. Super tired. And I was like, what would Trisha do? You know? Like, I have gotten to channel, like, a new side because I've gotten to be so inspired. You know what I mean? Like, you're so hard working. You don't sleep. You go. You chase your dreams. Like, even just I'll go to say something negative, and I'm like, Like, Trisha literally taught me, like, don't speak that out into the universe, and I'll stop myself. And I think that God and the universe really gave me a lot of inspiring women. And people, because I finally, like, had earned it and deserved it. Like, I, I wouldn't have. I don't know, like, if you or Maureen were really close to me in other years of my life, I wouldn't be like, soaking up inspiration and knowledge like a sponge. I wouldn't be like, you know, like, I got to do a lot of that this year and I want to keep doing that, you know.

[B]

Oh, my God, that's like the most beautiful. Yeah, she was wonderful. I loved getting to meet her too. And just. Yeah, but I feel the same about you. I feel like friendship and just like support and loyalty and just like, like, you know, I. I like, learn that from you and I love that. I love, I love that I, like, can consider you a friend. Consider Oscar for. I was so, like, scared of that word and like, going through just so much and just seeing how supportive and like, loyal you've been. Yeah.

[A]

You made such a stride this year too into like, opening your heart and in that way. And I completely understand not wanting to being burned, like, even, you know, I imagined that when you started this podcast with me, like, I don't want to, I want to phrase this, like, properly, but like, you're starting a podcast with another influencer woman, me, and, you know, and it's, it's kind of a gamble. It's like, oh, my God, I hope we don't have a major falling out. I hope we get a long, long term. I hope that we. And a lot of fears probably, or like, maybe even just the ideation that, like, we're gonna do this not Loveline thing. But it could end in three months because of like, yes, like, things that you've been through.

[B]

Everything, everything with the influencer. It's not just you. And I'm like, you start to think about it, like, everything with me with the influencer ended. It might be me too, is the problem. You know what I mean? Like, if I've always been with somebody. So I also was worried about the other way where I'm like, oh, I don't wanna up with you. And not a fear of like, you would make a story time. It was more of just like, oh, I don't want to be this person that cannot keep thing going, you know, But I think it's also like the healing era that I'm into. It's just like, it's. It's fine if it doesn't work out, you know, and it's. It was, it was fine. It was never gonna be tumultuous if it ended yeah.

[A]

But then it ended up working so well and we've stuck to this and through. Through babies and through Broadway and through touring and through travel and prison. Just everything, literally. We still came back and we sat on these leopard chairs and we, like, came together. And even before this, we were having an off camera conversation. All of us. Like, Devin, like, Devin, you're like family to us, like, and that's. It's just like we have become this. Like, Amari's always here and he loves you so much. Like, seeing my favorite person in the world, like, you know what I mean? The way you take care of everyone in my life and love them. Like, we have become this, like, little family.

[B]

Did say that earlier. Yeah.

[A]

And we're loyal. We're like, keep it all in the family. We love each other over here. Yeah. So I kept making that joke. I kept calling us Team 10 earlier.

[B]

But it was really funny. You're like, then we could do this and we can come on here.

[A]

And I was like, well, we were talking about. I don't know if we want to put this in yet, because it's like. But we were. We were just kind of saying that we could maybe see something where Paige and Oscar were, like, a fun duo.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we're just like, how cool is that? That, like, our worlds continue to.

[B]

I love it. I love the mix of all of it. You know what I mean? Like, whoever does whatever. It's like, when Devin started working with, like, cancel, it's just like, that makes sense, you know, the world that we're all in, you know? And I met Devin through another podcast and it's just like, yeah. Being able to kind of. I don't know, because when someone gets you once, everyone gets the vibes and everything. Because, like, Jimmy, we're talking about the show, and he's just like, no, I, like, genuinely love it. And then his boyfriend Dallas was like, yeah, he'll always, like, show me stuff like, oh, my God, look at this. This is really funny. He's like, I genuinely love it. So I think that, like, makes such a big difference too. When someone gets it and, like, loves it.

[A]

That is so cool. We're just very lucky.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And keeping it in the family, too.

[B]

Family. That goes to. What I'm saying is, like, yeah, it's just like, I'd rather someone we know someone. We get someone who's awesome.

[A]

And we're just. We're really lucky to have what we have going on. And I'm very excited for the future. And it's this has been awesome and truly just the biggest. Thank you to everyone who has listened to Not Loveline this year. Because so many of these things that we're talking about would not be possible without you girls.

[B]

Literally none of it. I say that all the time on my tours, Broadway shows, anything I'm doing. Literally none of it is if I didn't have, like, an amazing audience that comes to support every night, because, like, that is the reason I get to be a performer.

[A]

My favorite thing about Lil Wayne, which is a really funny thing that I'm responding to, what you're saying is that that at all of his shows is that he starts all of his shows by saying, I ain't without y'.

[B]

All. Yeah.

[A]

And he starts it as this whole chant. He makes the crowd do it. He'll be like, I ain't. And the whole crowd will be like, without y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Like, they know. And it's this thing. And I grew up on Lil Wayne. I grew up on that. And I didn't know that I would ever be in a position to, like, feel that way or to say it, but it's like, oh, my God, it's so true. Even when girls come up to me, I get so sad whenever this girl, color me mine Yesterday was like, I'm so sorry to bother you. I'm so sorry. She kept saying that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm like, you are not bothering me. If you were a straight man, maybe you'd be bothering me. But you, like. Like, you're never bothering me, because everything I have is because of you. Like, this is an honor. Like, thank you so much. And that's. That we really have that connection.

[B]

Tate McCraerson just has talent. Like, you know, they could just do whatever. But it's like, we rely on people, like, knowing us and relating to us and caring. And caring is a big one. And I. I feel 100 the same way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it feels like I know you. Sorry. I'm parasocial. I'm like. But, like, I'm the one person that you definitely know. Like, you definitely know everything about.

[A]

How parasocial is it when I've said everything on my heart?

[B]

You know everything.

[A]

I always say that, too. That's funny.

[B]

Maybe it's one way. Maybe I don't know exactly of everything about you, but it's. You definitely know everything about me, and rightfully so, but.

[A]

And it is this, like, intrinsic, like, almost like, feeling, I guess, where it's like, maybe I don't know everything about you individually as a person, but you resonated with something that was very close on my heart, which means that there are more similarities with us than differences, and that is what can bring us together. You know what I mean?

[B]

Oh, yeah. The.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's what I. I cherish the most, and I love it.

[A]

We're so lucky.

[B]

Should we try and take a couple calls? I don't know. I know, but just so much. Yes.

[A]

Let's talk to the girlies.

[B]

Hopefully you have some positive ones to end the. The new year. To end the year, yes.

[A]

But always down to help anyone. Down for whatever.

[C]

Hi, Trisha. Hi, Tana. Love you guys. Dearly to my soul. I just kind of wanted some, like, advice on. I just. I just bought my first wig, and I'm very nervous to try it out. I don't know. Like, I just. Something about, like, wigs, Like, I know, like, I love other people wear them. I feel like they look so good. I love when you guys wear them. And, like, I get how, like, important they can be for protecting your actual hair, but I'm, like, biased towards myself, and I'm like, no, you're not gonna look good with a wig. You're gonna look fake. You're all this da, da, da, da. And, like, I just want to know how to feel more confident in going about wearing a wig.

[A]

I love this question.

[B]

I love this. This was true. We were talking about it.

[A]

Yeah. So that's actually funny. We were literally just talking about this.

[B]

Wigs.

[A]

It's funny because you actually really changed my mind on a lot of things. Like, just on wigs, you. I think it's. I mean, I think I was already kind of transitioning out of my, like, male gays era, which, thank God, obviously. But meeting you, like, you're just so comfortable in doing anything that you want to do and, like, trying all the things. And I think that, yes, this calls about a wig, but it's also, like, a bigger question. You know what I mean? And you said something in here that's very me. Like, I relate to this a lot, where I'll be like, I love when everyone else does it, but then when I do it, it's whatever. And Trisha has helped me get out of that a. You know, where it's just like, you live one life, and anyone who's gonna think something judgmental about what you're doing, you don't want them on your team and in your corner anyway.

[B]

One.

[A]

First and foremost. Second of all, like, you could wear the wig and then be like, I never want to do it again, but like, you live one life. Like, just try and like you ordered them, you want to. You know what I mean? So it's like. And just how fun. Like, that's what it is. It's like, not everything needs to be about, like, looking Your absolute perfect 10 out of 10 either. So many things are just about, like trying new things and having fun and being a girl. And just like, if you hate something, you don't have to keep doing it. And I don't think you will hate it either.

[B]

I don't think wigs changed my life. And like you said, for a bigger picture, not just saving my hair. It's like everything about it. The way I expressed myself, yes, it saved my hair. So it gives me more confidence in my everyday life. The way I express myself, creativity wise. Changing looks, changing how I feel, my personality, depending on what it is. It's just like wigs. Like, I used to be very self conscious about wigs too. I'd be like, oh my gosh, like, very male gaze too. Like, what if I'm like, if I'm on a date with a guy, is that a wig? Like, I would just be like, so. Or like, will it look cheap if I don't have a lace front? Like, I was so. But like, everyone wears wigs of all qualities of everything. And like, no one bats knives back. Everyone loves a wig. And it's just, they're life changing. I think you're gonna like, really love it. And it can take a minute to get used to. Be like, oh, my God, I'm wearing a wig. But I like, I love a wig. I will take off a wig in front of someone. I'll put out a wig on in front of someone. Like, I love it. I'll be in a wig cap. Like, I don't care what it is. Like, like, I love it.

[A]

That's. That's the other thing why I love them and you put me on to it because it's like we wake up every day in these skin suits and we all have our, you know, we have our own hair and we look a certain way most of the time. And getting to like, channel a different energy is so fun. It's like, okay, I don't look like Tana for the day and that's okay. Because tomorrow I will look like Tana again. Like, I don't. I think that was it. I always wanted to, like, look just like me in this comfort. Like, it was a comfort closed off thing. And then it's like, life is short. Let's be different let's serve a look. Let's do this thing. I think. And that's the thing. If you, you have to step out of your own brain and be like, if I think everyone else looks so fun in this, and I have a good heart and soul and I'm not judging anyone else. Most people are going to be that way too. And people, we always say this, but the things that we nitpick, no one else is thinking twice about. Everyone's in their own head about their own anyways.

[B]

So true. And if someone is worried about your wig, that says more about them than you. Because, like, 10 times worried. Why are you worried about my wig?

[A]

Sorry. I'm a fun redhead today. And you've literally never had fun, Stephanie. Okay, I don't know why I did that, but, like, you know what I mean?

[B]

Like porn, Stephanie. Catching strays. So funny.

[A]

It's just like, like, have fun. And anyone who wants to hate on you having fun is not living their life to the fullest. And usually those people hating are also just going through something. Like, you know, they're just like, you have to remember that too. Like, anyone who's going to judge you is also probably judging themselves. And that's like the sad truth. And yes, like, just do the weird makeup, wear the weird clothing item. There's always tomorrow if you don't like it. But if you do, you're gonna have like such a fun day. And that's. That is what it is for me. Like, whenever I do fun stuff with you, I'm like, oh my God. I'm just like, having such a fun day.

[B]

You know, it's fun. My favorite was.

[A]

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Yeah, Literally off your head.

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And I love that one. I was so comfy to have it off my head. And then it, like, was so cute to see it on you.

[A]

And it's. It almost is.

[B]

It's. It's like just a, like, sister out of the traveling wigs.

[A]

Just like.

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Yeah, just like, give each other the wig.

[A]

It's a girlhood thing. And it's almost. It is like. It's like a jacket. It's like you're wearing a cute jacket. You got over. I put it on. Like, it's the same thing. You can always take it off. It's not like you're dying your hair. Like, just. Yeah, have fun. And there's so many, like, cheap wigs out there that are. I just ordered this red. I might wear it tomorrow. Honestly, it's like, long red, layered, like, red head, red layered wig. And it's so pretty. It was on Amazon. It was like, $23. And like. Yeah. And I'm just like, I'm so excited to wear it.

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Like, we're just like, tomorrow.

[A]

I think I'm gonna go on Trevi's podcast. And she's a redhead, so I might just, like, show up looking like her. Like, yes. I'm literally. That's. You rubbed off on me in that sense that it's like, life is short.

[B]

She looks good. I just saw a tick tock and I was just like, damn, she looked really good.

[A]

Yeah, it's just, like, so fun. Yeah, I just, like, go with whatever it is with the way you look. Just have fun. Life is short.

[B]

I love. I think. I think we talked about this already, but I do love that your New Year's resolution last year was just like, like, I'm going to say, like, no to.

[A]

I said yes to everything. Well, you know what?

[B]

Actually, I think tomorrow, like, another podcast. I'm a girl. Did you do 30 podcasts in a month?

[A]

I'm doing, like, five more before I Leave. I, I love it.

[B]

I love that about you though. And I love it.

[A]

I still, contrary to what you may think, said no to way more this year, which is crazy, cuz I'm still saying yes to a lot. But. Oh my God, Paige. Paige. Oh my God. And the pa When Paige was working for me, like, I, I, oh my God, anyone could ask me to do anything and I would just do it. Like Even like with McCo and I's like past two date days, him and I were in the car and I was like, wow, this would like, never happen in other eras. Like, because I literally was saying yes to everything. Like, I didn't have like, the time more.

[B]

So, yeah, I think.

[A]

I really do think I've said no to 35 more this year, truly from.

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The bottom of my progress. And there were a lot of things.

[A]

This year, like, where I could have said yes to things for a lot of money, and I didn't.

[B]

Wow, you said no.

[A]

Even like, touring, like, there was a point where it was like, I could have, I could have done more, but I knew that, like, I was gonna be like, not my best self on stage. I knew I needed a mental health break and I didn't want to give that to people. And like, I, yes, it's turning down large, large sums of money, but like, I did that this year. I was like, you know what? Like, I, I think if I took on another tour, I, I don't trust that I can make it through it. And that's like, it doesn't matter. Any amount of money, you want to give people a good show, so don't do it.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Not to like, rush it or anything.

[A]

Like, and I think even in the next year, I will continue to say no to more, but I still do like to do things.

[B]

So there's a good. You are like the perfect podcast guest. Is there a podcast you would say absolutely no to? No way in hell. And is there like a dream podcast that you're like, please ask me to be on it.

[A]

There are so many podcasts. I would say absolutely no. No way in hell too.

[B]

Give me like two.

[A]

Oh my God, Joe Rogan. I'd probably go on Joe Rogan.

[B]

That's true. Yeah.

[A]

Because Miley like, clocked him on something and there's a clip of it.

[B]

They all look the same. They all think they're doing the same thing. And it's like, that's what I would say about your drugs or something like that. Like, yeah, she was.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

No, they're like athletes.

[A]

Like, what Are you talking about Miley Cyrus is so. Yeah, she's everything. I don't have, like, I don't have a drag that comes to mind where I'm just, like. I think that there's a lot of, like, straight. Like, I. I have my limited straights. Like, there. There are my few street podcasts that I go on, but they're like, that's it.

[B]

Maybe like, Tucker Carlson or something.

[A]

No. Yeah.

[B]

No, too. Yeah.

[A]

No. And, like, I am deaf. We talked about this in one of the previous episodes. But, like, I am only wanting to do things that I know that, like, people have good intentions on. That's. That's the other thing. Like, anyone who's, like, not trying to make notes or trying to do, like, hit questions or, like, you know what I mean? Just, like, drama stirring, like. No.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I. I debated going on vial files, and I decided no recently.

[B]

What was the decision?

[A]

I saw Brooke on it, and he asked her, or he. It wasn't even really a question, but it was. I talked about this a little bit on my friend George's podcast, and it's not shade or anything. It just.

[B]

Just.

[A]

It, like, hurt my feelings almost, I guess, where Nick Vile said to Brooke, he was like, and in the end, all she got you was a Shutterfly book. And mind you. Oh, my God, I had spent, like, months on that. Like, literally months. Like, Meg's nodding over here because it took us so long gathering every single photo from the. The stage. And it wasn't about it being a book. It was like, I literally want to cry right now. I don't know why. It really did hurt my feelings because I was like, this is every memory that we've ever had. We remember, like, not every memory we've ever had. We have a lot of memories that we have, but, like, with touring, you know what I mean? And the symbolism of it was like, we went all around the world together, and we did so much together, and we still came out the other side. And, like, the ending, the final page of the book was, like, our last show, and the COVID of the book was our first show. It was about the journey. And, like, she has so much money. Me, like, I'm not.

[B]

What.

[A]

I'm just gonna get her a 46, 000 Cartier bracelet for the end of it. It's like, she. That's not. That wasn't the point.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It was like. You know what I mean? And he. He asked her that, and I messaged because he was asking me to go on, too, right after her. And I think that's what they were kind of trying to do was like, have her and then me and maybe do the same thing to me. Kind of like try to put me in this corner to like maybe cause something. Yes. And I was gonna go on to like clarify that because I really don't like when like some narrative feels so untrue to what real. In the end, I was just like, I don't know that the final product would really convey the message that I'm trying to hear. And I would hate to be like portrayed or backed into a corner in.

[B]

That way or clipped in that way because it could be taken as some. I saw. I did see that clip and people.

[A]

Even clipped her so out of context, like, if it was up to me, canceled would be over. And like, it was like she said so many more other that. Or cancel wouldn't be over. Like she said so many more other things. You know what I mean?

[B]

That was like part of that sentence. No, they.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah, no, that does suck. And they. Then they were just saying like, we're not. Not. We're not drama here. We don't like to. I was like, literally, I was like.

[A]

Trying to like get by the. Shut up. I don't know. And maybe like someone just wrote it and it is like they wanted a. An answer that like, they weren't, you know, what was I supposed to get her? 10 gold bricks. I gave her my soul.

[B]

I didn't even know we were doing a gift exchange. Like, it was just something you just thought of to like, be. Here's a commemorative.

[A]

And I knew that because I made one for myself too. I knew what it would mean to her because of what it meant to me. Like, it was just like very sweet. And I was like, gonna go. And then I was like, let me. Why am I gonna rat race? Like, the answer's no here. I'm. I just.

[B]

I decided eventually my favorite thing. Moses giving me a photo album of our wedding was the favorite. Cuz we tried to buy one. It was a whole debacle. Was like $6,000 and we never got it. And so he just ended up making me one like years later. And it's my favorite thing. Yeah, she.

[A]

She has everything material that she needs. I'm not like, you know what I mean? Gonna get her like a cat, dinosaur tree in the end. Like, like a cat. She got this dinosaur cat tre. That's why it came to mind. I'm going to give her something that like, you know, like it shows my love and admiration for all that we did together. And I was like, damn. But whatever.

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That's. That's on that.

[A]

And it's not that deep, but I'm just saying there are things where I'm like, no, I'm not going to do that.

[B]

Well, good for you for doing a boundary on someone who was not nice.

[A]

Yeah, I just. I feel like. I felt like it was. Do you have a dream one dream Theovon.

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Oh, Theovon. Yeah.

[A]

Theovon is my dream podcast.

[B]

Oh, that's number one.

[A]

I think so. And then watch me go on and, like, Tank, because it, like, it's like.

[B]

I don't have fun regardless if it, like, was weird or awkward. But he is kind of has good chemistry with everybody, so I don't think it'd be hard to like. And you know him. You've, like, met him. Yeah.

[A]

I'm trying to think of any other dream podcast. You know, it's funny the way I.

[B]

Know you're not meant for Nick Lyles podcast.

[A]

If Owen Teal is hitting you up to come on this podcast, you're a higher bracket.

[B]

That's like the dream one. That's like the big one of the biggest ones right now is that.

[A]

Yeah, I'm so excited to do that. I just. I love doing it. You doing before you leave? Yes. We ended up making it work.

[B]

Thank God. That one's gonna be so good.

[A]

And that's. That's what I love. Even trevies tomorrow. I was already gonna be in the area, and she's like my best friend, and I know the intentions, and it's so fun. Like, six Feet above is such a good podcast. They're so funny and, like, just. They're. They're here for the girls. They're like, on the right side of history every time. They're just. They're great. So it's like, I love doing all that, you know, I.

[B]

That's a dream one. I would go on that one, too. I think next year I'll, like, say yes to more podcasts. I feel like I was like, not. I. I love the big ones. I love Chicken Shop Date.

[A]

Oh, my God. That's a dream, too. I love her and the Chicken Shop Bobby Altoff.

[B]

She's gonna rebrand. She has, like, a new podcast now that she's rebranding. Yeah. I'm getting more on the Bobby Altoff side. I didn't like her.

[A]

That's a big one for me. I would love to.

[B]

Really.

[A]

I love her.

[B]

I. I had said no to what they had asked me, but it was more when she was a character. I'm really bad with characters, like, improving with characters, but I feel like she's a little more authentically her now, and I kind of like, like that better. I like Jay Shaddy. I know there's, like, controversy with him, but I like his mental health. And I love the Amy Poehler podcast. I was just gonna say she's, like, humongous. I mean, she gets, like, all the A list, but I, like, love her.

[A]

No, I love her too big.

[B]

That's the ones.

[A]

Amy Poehler is so good. That's. I always see that. I sent that to my PR team out of delusion. I was like, get me on this. Okay.

[B]

Nominated for a Golden Globe, will probably win, like, everything.

[A]

Yeah, she's an icon.

[B]

We love them.

[A]

I would also do Call Her Daddy again.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I would do.

[A]

Yes, I would love to do Call Her Daddy in the mental state I'm in now as the person I am now.

[B]

Oh, that's true.

[A]

Because I. Oh, my God. Yeah. Like, my Call Her Daddy episode is like, me in the worst time of my life.

[B]

You guys, like, so ever meshed. It was. It was really cute to see. I'm, like, way more reserved in, like, person. You're very much, like, outgoing, talking, like, confident. I'm very much more, like, shy reserved, like, don't want anything. And you guys had such a good, like, banter. It was, like, cute to watch. Yeah, she's.

[A]

I mean, she's just a powerhouse. It'd be, like, fun.

[B]

You're very similar. I mean, very similar. And even the unwell of it all was giving. I think you even said it, too. You're like, this is, like, what I envision. Tanacon. You know, it was. It was like the original Tanacon. It had. It had, like, more of a structure, but, I mean, it was kind of the same.

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Yeah, that's true. No conventions for me. I've been debating. I kind of want to do. Maybe I can say this here, actually. I want to do Tana can. I want to do canned food drives and so good. Maybe do it with, like, influencers helping me, too, and stuff and do that. So I've been talking to people on how to get that done lately. So that's the people. We're not bringing Tanacon back, but we might bring Tanakan back.

[B]

Wait, that's so.

[A]

Yeah, I love something fun. If you and I did that, like, that'd be, like, a fun thing to do with people and, like, just, like, do good.

[B]

Like, I think I love when influencers do that. Like, the only one I can think of is the Alex Earl. Doing that.

[A]

And I like Meals in Heels is awesome. It's so awesome because you want to.

[B]

Help, but you don't know, like, how to go about doing that. So when something's, like, organized and structured and, like, you can just get people to come help you, like, it's perfect.

[A]

Yeah. And now I'm finally in a place where, like, I'm so happy with my, like, team. That's another thing that, like, 20, 26. It's like, mainly. And they all just are amazing and, like, just that. That I can reach out to people and I know they'll bring me the best of the best. Like, people are finally taking me seriously, and I know that if things happen, they'll go good.

[B]

I feel like that is us in a nutshell. This year is just this synchronicity of just having stable everything. Stable love life, stable career, women around us, like, people taking us seriously and us, but also taking ourselves seriously. I feel like for so long I was like, I am trash. I'm this. And it's like, just changing the way that's like, that's not me. That's not who I want to be. I'll do everything in my power to change who I was and my image of my myself, because that's, like, not. I'm not proud of that person.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's like, working hard to try and change that and correct it. I see people, like, acknowledge it, and that makes me feel good. And there's people who won't see that, and that's fine. But at least the people who do see it, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna just keep trying because it's like, it is working for me in my personal life and publicly. So I love that we're taking ourselves seriously too.

[A]

It is. That's another really great thing that you've done for me as well. Just reminding me to, like, not. That's a. That's a resolution of mine too. I always would lean on self deprecation so much and now know I had a psychic tell me that recently that, like, hey, if you're leaning on self deprecation at all, you are going against what your path is supposed to be. And that's. It's easy for, like, it was so easy for a girl like me. It was like, I'm gonna beat you to whatever you're about to say, and I'm gonna be in on the joke. And at that time, I think it worked well. Like, you know that because it's. I had a lot of things to work on so I was trying to just let people like kind of know that I knew that, you know. But now it's like, like. Yeah. Like sometimes when I'll be talking to someone if they're being like condescending about who I am and like what I was like I'm not falling into that because I know I've done the work and that's a bad example for the girls out there. Like I just being. I think self deprecation is always like. There's funny moments, you know, where it's like my like spilling on myself or something. Like Amari and I can be very funny about like certain self deprecating things. But I'm not about to like just, you know, just myself anymore, you know.

[B]

No. And as you should and that's like such a respect level for yourself and I feel like once you respect yourself, other people respect you so much more and. And then the people who don't people will come for.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Actually that's not okay to say it is.

[A]

That is so sweet too. Just how our fans are the best in that regard that sometimes it's like I'll see someone do or say something about me and it's like I don't even have to like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like they're, they're so sweet in the way they have our back and respectfully too.

[B]

People always will be like, well actually this, this and this. Yeah, it's very nice. We love to see them.

[A]

Yeah. It's not like they're. They're not stooping to a level. They're just, they just have our back.

[B]

Yeah. As they should.

[A]

That's a huge resolution of mine though is just to like do everything I can with my platform to help people, especially with the state of the world. So I'm really excited for what 2026 is going to bring. I'm already like doing so much more but I just want to keep doing that because it's like nothing feels better than that being like I used what I have to help other people and yeah, people need it more than ever.

[B]

Now and people want to see it more. I think before we were trying to like share good, you know what you're doing good with the world. Be like that's like performative. But now people just like want to see that. Content over consumption.

[A]

Content 100.

[B]

That's been my like theme of the whole weekend is like just like googling everything about like pollution in our air. I was like, you know what There's.

[A]

A documentary on Netflix. I don't know what it's called, but it's about over consumption and I think we should both watch it.

[B]

Oh, oh yeah, I've heard of it.

[A]

I'll find it. And because I haven't seen it yet either, maybe we could talk about it on here. Because that's like. And we're, that's like that goes along the vein of a lot of the things that we do where like we were doing something like for a while and then we like grew and then we can help our audience. Audience do the same thing. And over. I love that we're both in this era where we want to stop over consuming and I'm just learning about it.

[B]

Yeah. But like thank God I'm learning about it because I am the over consumer. So I'm like, yeah, I need to. And especially with like my kids and stuff, I'm like, okay, we need to have a world for them because like, yeah, very well. Just be literal. Up in flames.

[A]

Yes. I feel like I learned a lot about that in Hawaii too. Like people are really good about that over there.

[B]

Like it's so beautiful.

[A]

And again, just taking care even when I'm there. Like just. Yeah, like if people need something, they make it or like they use what they have and like it's really cool. That's another thing. I want to do a lot more for Hawaii. I'm about to like get into that while I'm there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just donating to Lahaina and all the families.

[B]

What's your home now? It's your second home?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

First home. I don't know.

[A]

No, not first. That's Makoa's first home.

[B]

A home to all.

[A]

It's just. It is, it's so great. I want to help in any way I can. Hi.

[C]

So my name is Dana. I have been a fan of you guys for a few years now and so I just kind of wanted to bring this up. Tana, I actually found you on Spotify listening to Cancelled because I was looking up podcasts that mentioned sobriety and one of your episodes on there had mentioned it and so I once super proud of you. Super proud. Return to long term sobriety. That's so great. Trish, I know you're not a big drinker, but you're still so fun. So I think you might have a lot to say about this. I was just wondering, I've been sober for going on six years now. December 23, 2019. What do you guys feel about non alcoholic beverages? Like non Alcoholic beer or non alcoholic wine? Alcohol removed wines. They have so many different options now. And I love talking about this stuff because I love to have a nice little mixed drinky drink, but I can't have too much fun, if you catch my drift. So. Yeah, I just wanted to hear your opinions on that.

[B]

Okay, love you both.

[C]

Bye.

[B]

That was fun.

[A]

That was so cute and so sweet and we love you. I think whatever works for someone. They should too. I hate non alcoholic, non alcoholic beer specifically, though. I've never tried non alcoholic wine, but non alcoholic beer, to me, I'm just like, why? Like, for me, for me, personally, because it's like it. This is just like making me feel bloated. It has no effect. I'm like, I'd rather have a soda because they're like more delicious, like, type of thing. But I love a cute mock text. Like anything that's like, like, put a flower on that. I'm sold. Put a fruit wedge on the corner and there's fruit juice. And I used to not. I think it was when I was like, still detesting it. I was like, that's so lame. I'm gonna order a mocktail. And then over time, I was like, I'm gonna order that mocktail. Makoa really, like, pushed me. Babe, get a cute mocktail.

[B]

So fun.

[A]

It's cute.

[B]

It feels like you're celebrating.

[A]

Yeah, it does. It does. It's funny. Devin's been saying to me that, like, oh, because we were just talking about the dizzy to like, obviously not having a. The wine brand pipeline and to make a non alcoholic beverage and like, you know, whatever, but I don't know, the beverage space is just oversaturated and hard.

[B]

There is a lot. Yes, there's a lot of that. But if you like something a lot, but if you don't, that's what it is.

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But again, it's not a competition. Wayfair Every style, every home. I'm very like, if you tell me that doing 100 jumping jacks at 12:37pm Makes you be sober and you love it.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Like do it, you know, like, just everyone's journey is different and things that help people don't help other people. Things that don't help other people help. You know, like, it's.

[B]

What about a sparkling cider? O love. Oh, my God. We have it every Friday night as, like a celebration love. That's cute. Mal loves it. It's so good. We both love it. We, like, drink a whole bottle.

[A]

So good.

[B]

Martinelli's.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Deborah, our mom stock up on that for New Year's Eve.

[A]

She always does that for me now that I stopped drinking. Like, on holidays, she'll be like, we're popping bottles. But it'll be like sparkling apple cider for me. And it's really cute. It's. Well, I want that right now. But, yes, I think whatever works for anyone for any journey they want to be on, they should do. And I'm so proud of you. Six years. That is my goal.

[B]

Yeah. That's amazing. That's so huge.

[A]

I wish I stopped drinking on December 23, 2019. Like, whatever the hell she said, like, go off.

[B]

Amazing. When is yours. When's your sobriety?

[A]

September 21, 2020.

[B]

Whatever.

[A]

A year ago is. Yeah, I'm over a full year now, which is cool. Yeah, it's. I feel amazing. I tell everyone who's thinking about it to try it, you know, sober.

[B]

You do.

[A]

So birthdays.

[B]

Is that what they do? Like, they do the one.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I just. I had the best one year. It was cool. Like, I just. Yeah.

[B]

You did the reflection, right? The reflection video.

[A]

Yes. That I still haven't posted and I need to have. You know, I have two Halloween videos that are coming out. I'm behind. I'm really behind.

[B]

And you really go all out for Halloween. You should probably post those.

[A]

Yeah, I know. It's. Honestly, I.

[B]

You do the most.

[A]

I've been so brand safely that I've been getting a lot of YouTube branded integrations and Then the brand will take. Like, I've had this brand. They're taking, like, a while to approve some of the videos, and I'm like, these are Halloween videos. But, like, also, we prayed for times like these.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Take that time.

[A]

We are so brand safe.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Halloween video on new Year. Yeah. Let's go.

[B]

Are you gonna do a little vlog over the holidays? Are you, like, taking a break?

[A]

I wanted. I want to show, like, a little of Mako and I's life in Hawaii. I think I'll do some of that because I think that it's. He really inspires me to live life just for the beauty of it and nature and get off the phone and be active and we cook all there together. Ashley's coming and, like, just. It's. It's gonna be really sweet.

[B]

So fun.

[A]

So probably a little bit of that. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited for your holidays.

[A]

But I'm so excited for yours too, though.

[B]

I do love. Yeah. We really are just taking, like, a legit break, just chilling at the house, which I'm, like, so excited.

[A]

You deserve it more than anyone I know.

[B]

Like, oh, my God. Being home is just a beautiful, beautiful thing. I did you a big one.

[A]

Tana last week suggested this whole game, and I put it together.

[B]

Devin, seven minutes left, which is perfect. Okay, great.

[A]

I love this man.

[B]

You know, this game.

[A]

I love this man so much because I will actually see. God, Devin, I love you. I was like, I saw a clip of two influencers holding a celebrity to their head, and then, like, like, if you had a celebrity in your head, I'm trying to, like, guess who you are. Like, you know what I mean?

[B]

Like the Ellen game. What is it? Heads up. Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, how funny if Trisha and I did that. Like, it almost reminds me of our, like, word association club.

[B]

I love a game with you.

[A]

I was like, devin, I want to do this with Trisha. But then I. I, like, meant in 2026. Like, you're so cute. Thank you for doing that.

[B]

Ready for you right now. Yeah.

[A]

I'm so excited.

[B]

And how do we do it? We can just ask clues.

[A]

So.

[B]

Yeah. Or you describe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You ask questions. It's like 20 questions, right?

[A]

Okay, you want to give me one? Like, you got to turn it around.

[B]

Red.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, my God. Is it a girl or a boy?

[B]

Girl.

[A]

Okay. Do I like this person?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. She said it in a way.

[B]

You do.

[A]

Okay. Are they famous on Tick Tock?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Mainly on Tick Tock.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Are they obnoxious? No.

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay. Are they beauty?

[B]

No.

[A]

Lifestyle?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Comedy?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Are they skits or are they being themselves?

[B]

I don't know. Maybe a little bit of both.

[A]

Am I. I'm not Bobby Altoff.

[B]

No. That was a good guess though. Okay. Very different.

[A]

Am I Terra's World?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Love that one.

[A]

Ask more niche questions. This is like low key hard. I wanted to play this game too. This is my idea. Do they have pets?

[B]

No.

[A]

Do they have kids?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Am I Nora Smith?

[B]

Yes. That was good. You got that pretty quick. Oh my gosh. How beautiful. She looks there too. Too.

[A]

Oh my God, she looks gorgeous.

[B]

On my Instagram today, I did a. I did a recreation of one of her photos and she just commented on mine. This was the one I recreated.

[A]

Wait, that's cute.

[B]

And I used her caption cuz she talked about like postpartum and she like commented on it and then she was really sweet. She like followed me back and everything. This was the one I recreated.

[A]

That was. I would love to see a Trisha Paytas Nara Smith crossover. I'm manifesting that.

[B]

She did follow me on Tik Tok a while ago. I'm gonna recreate these skims. One with Moses. Me and him with the kids.

[A]

Those are so cute.

[B]

I ordered the pajamas, so we're gonna like redo.

[A]

The photos are so hot.

[B]

Like, yeah. Oh, yeah. My head thinking, that's me and Moses campaign.

[A]

Okay. Okay. I'm gonna give you this person. So don't look.

[B]

Am I okay?

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. Oh. Am I a social media person?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, but I'm also mainstream.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yes. Okay. Am I a rapper?

[A]

No.

[B]

Am I a singer?

[A]

No.

[B]

Actor?

[A]

No.

[B]

Do I make a lot of money?

[A]

Yes. Okay.

[B]

Oh my gosh. Okay. Social media person was also like mainstream. Am I a Nepo baby heiress? No. Okay. Money. Social media. Oh, this is. This is hard. Am I boy or girl? Am I a boy?

[A]

You're a girl.

[B]

Think more professions. More professions. Okay.

[A]

I don't know if they.

[B]

Interior designer?

[A]

No, no. You're cooking. You're cooking.

[B]

Okay, okay, okay. Am I an entertainer?

[A]

You're entertaining.

[B]

Am I. Oh my gosh. Am I on red carpets?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes. Am I a socialite?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Julia Fox?

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, it makes a lot of money. I'm trying to think. Wow.

[A]

Oh, you're not far.

[B]

Okay, well.

[A]

But you're not like next door either. Like you. You got a little socialite.

[B]

Am I a household name?

[A]

Low key.

[B]

Do I know who this person is?

[A]

Yes. Yes. Yes.

[B]

Do I like this person?

[A]

I think so.

[B]

Have I talked about her?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Am I in New York?

[A]

Yes. Am I in New York? Eight.

[B]

Bethany Frankel.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

We met her at the end.

[A]

Well, yeah.

[B]

What an icon she is.

[A]

She is such an icon. That was good. Bethany Frankel. Do we do more?

[B]

Well, I might have to wrap it up because I do ad reads. I do. I love this game. I do love it.

[A]

We should actually print them out. I think that would, like, make it really funny if they were like on our heads.

[B]

That was fun, though. I love it.

[A]

Yeah, I really like. I wanted to get messy. We got to do that again.

[B]

Yeah, I had some messy ones. I'll show you the ones Devin sent me.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Wait.

[A]

I'm excited.

[B]

I had to choose the non messy ones. It's like, okay.

[A]

Oh, my God. I'm so happy that you. You picked the right one.

[B]

You did all right, you guys. Well, I hope that you guys all have a great holiday season. May you have a very happy new year. Thank you for being with us through this year. It's been the best year of my life. And.

[A]

And I just thank you guys so much, sincerely. And like, I know the holidays can also be hard if you're going through anything. And I just hope that Trisha and I truly can serve to you that, like, life does get better. And like, that's. Yeah, I hope we can be your hope core in that regard. And we're so grateful for everything that you have done for us and we're so excited for 2026 and we love you so, so much, our not Loveline family. We really do.

[B]

And I can't wait to be back. We'll see you in the new year. Happy holidays. Bye, guys.