Not Loveline – EMBARRASSING MOMENTS, ALEX COOPER, & UNWELL FEST RECAP
Hosts: Tana Mongeau & Trish Paytas
Date: October 20, 2025
Episode Overview
In this festive and candid Halloween episode, Tana Mongeau and Trisha Paytas dive into a whirlwind of topics focused on their recent costumes, friendship rituals, embarrassing mishaps, and a no-holds-barred behind-the-scenes recap of Unwell Festival in Las Vegas. The two influencers share personal anxieties, friendship milestones, costume envy, and advice about embracing embarrassment. Notable showbiz gossip (Alex Cooper and the inner workings of Unwell Festival), Halloween costume banter, and reflections on lifelong internet fame pack the episode with laughter, vulnerability, and pure “girls and gays” energy.
Major Discussion Highlights
1. Halloween Energy & Costume Traditions
00:44 – 08:46
- Both hosts share their excitement for Halloween, discussing costumes inspired by "Death Becomes Her" (Broadway version) and the evolution of their personal Halloween styles—from “male gaze” sexy to “girls and gays” fun.
- Trisha reflects on her Broadway and movie costume inspirations, especially the glamour of "Death Becomes Her" and how Tana participates enthusiastically even when unfamiliar with a character.
- The “love language” of doing creative photo shoots and planning group costumes comes up, highlighting the beautiful evolution of their friendship.
- Quote: "I love a girls and gays Halloween. Like just no straight men other than Makoa in sight for me."
– Tana Mongeau [05:00]
2. Friendship & Personal Growth
05:54 – 07:59
- Both express gratitude for finding platonic soulmates to enjoy silly, creative moments with—like dressing as fembots two years ago.
- Personal growth around feeling liberated to be “dorky” instead of always sexy or performative.
- Acknowledgement that age and comfort transform the meaning and joy of Halloween costumes.
3. Couples & Group Costume Brainstorming
08:12 – 10:52
- Tana and Trisha swap costume ideas, joke about cliches, and brainstorm creative couples’ costumes, poking fun at their own over-the-top tendencies and nostalgia.
- Discussion about the difficulty of keeping costumes relevant and original, especially for internet personalities.
- Quote: “Couples costumes are hard. It's hard not to be, like, cliche.”
– Trisha Paytas [10:40]
4. Learning Tap Dance Together
11:08 – 13:34
- The hosts discuss Trisha and Moses’ new “tap dancing” Halloween concept, and Tana’s tap-dancing background, with dreams of future collaborative dance numbers.
- They reflect on overcoming embarrassment and taking up new hobbies despite fear of looking silly.
- Quote: “A good takeaway from anything in life is you know, people are so scared to do things because they think they're going to look stupid... but you might as well just do it anyway.”
– Trisha Paytas [13:08]
5. Embarrassment, Gatekeeping & Celebrating Others
13:39 – 14:49
- Insightful talk about the “mindset” of embarrassment and letting go of worry; how in LA, creative gatekeeping can limit community and joy.
- Celebrating friends’ successes (like Tana’s videographer getting bigger jobs) even when it affects them personally.
6. Minecraft Costumes & Sister Shout-outs
15:01 – 16:26
- Behind-the-scenes of planning a Just Trish group Minecraft costume and Trisha’s love for integrating family and crew.
- Lighthearted banter about watching siblings on TikTok livestreams.
7. Viral & "Messy" Halloween Costumes
16:42 – 18:29
- Tana recounts how she was “swindled” into doing an Alabama Barker and Bhad Bhabie costume with Paige; discusses living for slightly messy internet costumes and craving comedic chaos.
- The two reminisce on costumes as low-stakes, referential internet lingo, and making fun of James Charles’ viral “Coca Cola…hello” TikTok clip.
- Quote: “I do miss being funny messy with the costumes…like, it made me want to be James Charles.”
– Tana Mongeau [16:26]
8. Disneyland & Theme Parks—Friendship in Action
22:21 – 23:26
- Tana’s rare visits to Disneyland spark plans for a group trip with friends who aren’t thrill-seekers.
- Quote: “I love finding a friend who's not in it for the rollercoasters.…I would love to go with you.”
– Tana Mongeau [22:51]
9. Unwell Fest Las Vegas Recap
25:21 – 38:10
- Detailed chronological stress-comedy breakdown of the lead-up to the Unwell Festival:
- Booking flights, stuck on the JetSuite tarmac, aviation anxiety, running-late disasters, and wild rain in Vegas.
- Nail-biting logistics, missed appointments, and Tana’s record-level anxiety.
- Trisha’s sneaker meal save (grilled nuggets!), dinner at the iconic Golden Steer (Elvis’ booth!), and the “dystopian” weather.
- Tana’s epic restroom slip: “I am not kidding you, Trisha. I went horizontal in the air…like, that is how I felt—like out of a cartoon.” [34:59]
- Hilarious failed security and Vegas bro encounters.
- Show night: fronting Unwell events at The Chelsea with Alex Cooper and Trisha’s Lifetime Achievement trophy moment.
10. Celebrity & Influencer Impressions at Unwell Fest
38:14 – 43:35
- Alex Cooper’s commanding presence, production energy, pool parties, and sponsorships up close.
- Quote: “…she walks into a room and just commands the attention.”
– Trisha Paytas [38:10] - Trisha finds Cooper “lowkey intimidating…but dominating for sure.”
- Quote: “…she walks into a room and just commands the attention.”
- Notable guest run-ins: Bethenny Frankel mistaking Tana for a Housewife, Harry Jowsey in “Vegas mode.”
11. Sponsorship Egos: Chili’s, Domino’s, Arby’s & Food Loyalty
45:22 – 47:51
- The battle for food sponsorships—Trisha and Tana vent their (real) feelings about unrequited partnerships from Domino’s and Chili’s versus Arby’s loyal love.
- Joking plans to dress as mozzarella sticks for a Chili’s “cheese pull” as a final campaign push.
- Quote: “When I see someone with the chili sponsorship, I’m genuinely—like, I’m jealous. Like, I’m filled with envy. I’m green.”
– Tana Mongeau [46:48]
12. Jewelry Shopping, Friendship Rituals & Material Culture
52:51 – 55:45
- Story of their whirlwind matching Van Cleef jewelry purchase, how jewelry acts as a friendship ritual, and musings on meaningful spending.
- Trisha’s reluctance to wear valuable pieces due to finger insecurity and Tana teasing her about unused jewelry.
13. Modern Fame, Meme Longevity & Internet Generations
75:15 – 76:19
- Gen Z and the eternal meme: Toothbrush rumors, “do dogs have brains?”, the burden/gift of being the internet's punchline.
- Nostalgia for meme eras that newer generations may not remember.
- Trisha gives a scoop on her upcoming "Euphoria" casting: "That’ll be my next 15 years…I’ll just talk about that for 15 more years." [76:12]
14. Future Plans, Broadway Dreams, and New York Itineraries
62:04 – 64:43
- Tana admits she’s never seen a Broadway show (Trisha is intent on changing that).
- Plans for playbills, iconic photo shoots, “channeling different New York energy,” and city food traditions.
- Quote: “In LA, everyone cares what everyone else is doing…but in New York…no one gives a what you’re doing. It’s very freeing.”
– Tana Mongeau [64:42]
- Quote: “In LA, everyone cares what everyone else is doing…but in New York…no one gives a what you’re doing. It’s very freeing.”
Notable Quotes & Moments
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On friendship & comfort:
“It’s just so nice to find the person that you get to do that with…and have the best day ever.”
– Tana Mongeau [05:54] -
On embarrassment and mindset:
“Embarrassment is just a mindset…for the most part.”
– Tana Mongeau [13:27] -
On celebrity interactions:
“Two hours into the conversation, I find out she’s the star, not the Dancing with the [star]…I wanted to die.”
– Tana Mongeau [70:42] -
On internet legacy:
“You and I do just have thick skin. Like, everything that anyone could say about us, they have, you know."
– Tana Mongeau [74:12] -
On meme culture:
“People do come up to me and say it…It’s funny, though, because the video is about me talking about how a guy spread a rumor. If anything, he won in the end.”
– Tana Mongeau [75:22]
Episode Flow & Timestamps
- 00:44 – 08:46: Halloween excitement, costumes, “Death Becomes Her” Broadway adaptation, friendship photoshoots
- 11:08 – 13:34: Couples costumes, tap dancing, overcoming embarrassment
- 16:42 – 18:29: Viral costumes, being “messy,” James Charles references
- 22:21 – 24:07: Disney trips, friendship logistics, dinner plans gone awry
- 25:21 – 38:10: Unwell Festival: flight misadventures, show prep & anxiety
- 38:14 – 43:35: Alex Cooper at Unwell, production insights, Bravo cameos
- 45:22 – 47:51: Sponsorship envies, food loyalty, Chili’s and Arby’s debate
- 52:51 – 55:45: Jewelry as friendship, wearing the bling, material insecurities
- 62:04 – 64:43: Broadway, NYC energy, “no one gives a what you’re doing”
- 75:15 – 76:19: Meme legacies, Gen Z references, Trisha’s “Euphoria” announcement
- 76:43 – End: Appreciation for fans, upcoming call-in show tease
Takeaways
- Friendship is best expressed through shared silliness and showing up for each other’s interests—photo shoots, costumes, travel, or just supportive energy.
- Embracing embarrassment and not gatekeeping creative resources is essential for personal happiness and genuine community.
- Despite years in the spotlight, both hosts deal with everyday anxieties and appreciate grounding, low-pressure experiences—even (or especially) in the chaos of influencer events.
- Fandoms, internet culture, and meme legacies live on—becoming both inside jokes and career-defining moments.
- The “girls and gays” ethos: do it for the fun, not the external validation.
For New Listeners
This episode epitomizes Not Loveline’s blend of confessional friendship, irreverent pop culture commentary, and the unfiltered realities of influencer life. It’s a celebration of embarrassing stories, the joy of creative collaboration, and the magic in finding someone who truly “gets” your weird. Even if you’ve never seen a minute of Halloween TikTok or Unwell Festival livestreams, Tana and Trisha invite you into their world of heart, hilarity, and high drama.
