EX BOYFRIEND KEEPS TEXTING? + DATING CELEBRITIES

Summary

Podcast Summary: Not Loveline – Episode: "EX BOYFRIEND KEEPS TEXTING? + DATING CELEBRITIES"

Release Date: April 8, 2025

Hosts: Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas
Description: Not Loveline is a weekly love, sex, and dating call-in advice show hosted by Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas. The hosts are not professional experts but bring a wealth of personal experience to the table.

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1. Hair Transformations and Personal Image

00:00 – 03:10

The episode kicks off with Tana Mongeau sharing her experiences with past relationships, noting, “Every single person I’ve ever dated, except for maybe one, has come back around” (00:00). Trish Paytas counters, emphasizing her desire for solitude, “Absolutely not. I do not want another in my tomb with me” (00:06).

The conversation swiftly shifts to their hair transformations. Tana discusses her transition from blonde to brunette, describing it as an addiction: “I'm realizing that the addiction to bleach on my head is like... equating it to that of a drug addiction” (02:14). Trish compliments Tana’s new look, saying, “You look like you're on a vacation” (12:41), highlighting their supportive dynamic as they navigate changes in their appearances.

2. Tour Life and Production Efforts

03:10 – 07:05

Tana and Trish delve into the realities of touring, with Tana mentioning, “Honestly, it's nice to be in LA, just kind of working and grinding right now” (04:00). They discuss the surge in tours within the influencer community, attributing it to the allure of monetization: “People find out the money and then they're like, oh, what can I do on a stage?” (04:15).

The hosts also reflect on production quality, admiring Jeff’s investment in his projects: “Jeff has always been the type of person who really invests into what he does... He's a very high production person” (04:19). This motivates Tana to elevate the production value of her own endeavors, emphasizing the importance of quality in content creation.

3. Show Production and Audience Engagement

07:05 – 21:58

As they manage a demanding filming schedule—“We're doing 12 episodes in 48 hours, basically” (52:43)—Tana and Trish share insights into balancing personal lives with professional commitments. They express gratitude for their supportive audience, with Trish noting, “You guys, thank you” (36:50), highlighting the reciprocal relationship between the hosts and their listeners.

The episode also touches upon their merchandise ventures, with Trish announcing, “I have bedazzled leopard cups coming... Our leopard merch is coming within like a month” (07:53). This segment underscores their entrepreneurial spirit and dedication to expanding their brand beyond the podcast.

4. Discussing TV Shows: 'White Lotus' and 'Severance'

13:00 – 21:58

Tana and Trish engage in an in-depth discussion about the TV show White Lotus. They analyze character dynamics and relate them to real-life scenarios. Tana praises the writing, stating, “The writing is so talented... it's like you're spying on people in the best way” (16:28).

The conversation transitions to another show, Severance, where Tana provides a detailed synopsis: “...the whole show's concept is that these people sign up for something in their brain where when they go and clock into work, they become a completely different person” (17:09). Trish relates to the show's themes of dual identities and the complexities of personal relationships, fostering a rich dialogue about media influences on their perspectives.

5. Personal Life and Infertility Journey

21:58 – 32:20

One of the most poignant moments of the episode occurs when Trish opens up about her 14-year struggle with infertility. She shares, “I was infertile for 14 years and I had chlamydia untreated, which scarred my tubes” (59:33). Trish’s vulnerability shines as she recounts her journey from despair to hope: “I always manifest like, okay, we're gonna see the kids get married” (26:38).

Tana responds with empathy and encouragement, underscoring the importance of positivity: “Stay positive” (57:57). This heartfelt exchange provides listeners with a raw and authentic look into the emotional challenges the hosts have faced, fostering a deeper connection with their audience.

6. Interactions with Callers and Host Life

32:20 – 46:16

As a call-in advice show, Not Loveline features interactions with listeners seeking guidance. One caller, Molly from New Jersey, asks about maintaining positivity while dealing with infertility: “How do you stay positive in this journey?” (52:56). Trish offers her personal insights, sharing her manifestation techniques and the eventual fulfillment of her dreams after shifting her mindset: “The minute I switched, it was like... I kept... it just happened” (56:37).

The hosts also discuss logistical challenges of filming multiple episodes and managing their personal lives, highlighting the hectic nature of content creation: “We have to film seven episodes today for the girlies who enjoy the app” (72:05). Their transparency about the pressures of maintaining their brand resonates with listeners navigating similar struggles.

7. Writing and Personal Projects

46:16 – 72:13

Towards the end of the episode, Tana and Trish discuss their upcoming books. Tana reflects on her writing process and the emotional weight of her stories: “Not an ounce of my book is even remotely exaggerated” (40:14). Trish shares her challenges in capturing her authentic voice, mentioning, “I've written with, like, three or four writers now. And I'm just like... I can’t get it right” (43:18).

They also brainstorm future content ideas, including potential reality shows and wedding inspirations. Trish reminisces about past weddings, advising listeners to prioritize intimacy and budget: “Save money on your wedding” (63:36). This segment offers a glimpse into their creative endeavors and personal growth, inspiring listeners to pursue their passions despite obstacles.

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Notable Quotes:

• Tana Mongeau: “I'm realizing that the addiction to bleach on my head is like... equating it to that of a drug addiction” (02:14)
• Trish Paytas: “Absolutely not. I do not want another in my tomb with me” (00:06)
• Trish Paytas: “How do you stay positive in this journey?” (52:56)
• Trish Paytas: “Believe that it’s going to happen” (56:38)
• Tana Mongeau: “Stay positive” (57:57)

Conclusion:

In this episode of Not Loveline, Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas offer a blend of personal anecdotes, heartfelt discussions, and practical advice. From navigating personal transformations and the pressures of touring to overcoming infertility struggles and engaging with an enthusiastic audience, the hosts provide a candid and relatable listening experience. Their authenticity and openness not only entertain but also foster a supportive community for listeners facing their own love, sex, and dating challenges.

Transcript

[Tana Mongeau]

I can confidently say, like, every single person I've ever dated, except for maybe one, has come, like, back around. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Absolutely not. I do not want another in my tomb with me.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm in this dark headspace. I'm writing and I'm crying and I'm there, and it's good, and I'm killing it. And then, like, Amari walks in the room, and he's like, should we get Jersey mics for lunch? And I'm like, I love you, and life's good. I want Jersey. Mike said.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hello. Hello to Not Loveline.

[Tana Mongeau]

Welcome to Not Loveline.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have makeup on today, so I feel so much better. Last time we did this, I had. My makeup artist had canceled, so.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I swear to God, you were giving Clean Girl realness.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I'm scared. Those episodes haven't come out as time of filming this, and I'm scared to look at it because these lights wash us.

[Tana Mongeau]

You are. You're the hottest person ever. But they. They know I feel this way. And, you know, I feel you look.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I'm not even kidding. This is your best era ever. Like, the hair, it looks like this all. Like, she has the shadow root, the natural blonde, the layers.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm feel very. I'm. You know, I'm feeling like I'm looking more how I feel. You know, I'm. I'm adjusting to it. I'm adjusting to it for sure. But I do love the low light. I want to show my girl yours, though, and just fully copy you. Like, I want more of a low light in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's good because, like, I only go twice a year to a salon, so it is kind of nice, and that's what we need.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm realizing that the addiction to bleach on my head is this. Like, I'm equating it to that of a drug addiction.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

It is like, a serious addiction problem. Like, even this is the slightest change. And I was looking in the mirror feeling like Lord Farquaad. Like, feeling like. Like, changed everything. And it's like. It's not. It's the slightest shit.

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't live. I was like, this is giving Kardashian. It's giving Khloe. It's so good. Yeah. Thank you. You look amazing. I do.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's just. It's an adjustment, and it's crazy because I almost went way darker, and I think I would have actually had to be checked in somewhere if I went.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you get used to it. It's a shock, but you get used to it.

[Tana Mongeau]

And, like, everyone likes it more. So I think it's like I'm realizing I'm the problem.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's like I was looking at the back of my head with the root, and it's like, that doesn't look good. Like, that is black and yellow. Like, you. Like, this is correct, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you do have to have other people say it, because I would always think people trying to sabotage me by saying, like, go darker. Go darker.

[Tana Mongeau]

What mental illness is that? Like, tan? Like, these people love you, and they're just trying to help you. Like, what mental illness?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they like what? They just think everyone wants you to look ugly.

[Tana Mongeau]

Literally. I'm not kidding. I, like, posted a YouTube video, and I was like, everyone just wants me to be brunette. They want me to look ugly. And the comments are like, she needs to stop.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, brunette is such a slay. I would go brunette, but I have gray, so I think the. The blonde kind of still, like, covers that.

[Tana Mongeau]

I want grays hot. Take, like, all gray, though. But just because it seems like it's easier to get gray where I want, like, want my hair color to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right where the blonde is. My mom, she does that. She has the gray blend in with her blonde so she doesn't have to bleach it as much.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Like, that's everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I feel like a gray could turn into blonde easier than, like, black. My hair doesn't lift easy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I see. Well, it's very porous, a gray hair. I don't think gray can do. Oh, you can color it, but I don't think you can bleach a gray.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, really?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it'd probably fall out of my head. I'm gonna be bald forever. That is really the biggest takeaway.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I love a brunette vibe. I just don't know. Like, when you've been blonde for so long, it's so hard to be like, okay, I'm going brunette now.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. It's like, I. And I appreciate the contrast. I think when I, like, have my tan and I try on a lot of wigs that are, like, caramelly and brown and whatever, I'm like, this is all the same color. Like, I'm giving. Yeah, Peanut butter baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I like the peanut butter baby, though. Like, I love peanut butter, so I think that would look so good on you. Like an all peanut butter. You had peanut butter wig when you came on just church the first time, and I loved it. It was so cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

That was so bold of me. It's like, be blonde with Trisha.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I loved it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I do look back at that fondly. I'm like, Malibu was so little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Like, literally, like, seven months.

[Tana Mongeau]

She was so almost three. I know. She's had to, like, run the world.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Running the world.

[Tana Mongeau]

She's running. She's like, literally about to be the president. Like, I'm not. She's so grown.

[Trisha Paytas]

Malibu Barbie one day.

[Tana Mongeau]

Seriously.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, we're fresh, you guys. This is our fresh episode back. You've been living life, just living life.

[Tana Mongeau]

Honestly, it's nice to be in la, just kind of working and grinding right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then you're going international on your tour.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. We're touring women.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, why is everyone on a tour now? Like, last year, I feel like no one was on tour when you guys were. And now this year, everyone's like, everyone is going on tour because I think.

[Tana Mongeau]

People find out the money and then they're like, oh, what can I do on a stage?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, Jeff was on my podcast and he was saying he breaks even.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, he also. Jeff has always been the type of person who really invests into what he does. Like, even his brand deals. He'll, like, make a whole production. I'm like, how much did you take away once the eight camera guys left for your draft exam? And, like, good for you. Like, even just Jeff fm, like, the. Everything is. He's a very high production person, which. Which he taught me a lot about. He made me, like, want to care more about the production of my things because I, like, will film on a toaster and, you know, like, that's your brand too. Like, just, you know, just sending it out there to the world.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. Just like you guys on a black. I missed the black couch. Like, I loved you guys.

[Tana Mongeau]

We just won on the black couch again. And it felt. I felt more like myself. I really did.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, I like that. But he. Yeah, he brings a lot of people. He brings, like, set pieces. Like, he invest in it. And he said he just does it for fun because he loves it. And I like, my. My other tours, I always broke even too. And this one too, I bring, like 10 people. I probably bring more people.

[Tana Mongeau]

Same. I like, even just with this international tour, I was like, but we need all the people to make things. People. I mean, I guess singers and stuff. Like, the acoustic guys can just go out on their own or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Comedians. We talked about this. They have it made. You just stand up. You just go out there, like, in your clothes. One set that's it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. What the am I doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I thought when you said you were getting into stand up comedy, like, I don't know, a couple months ago, I thought you were gonna go on a tour. I was like, that's actually so smart because you just stand out there with a microphone.

[Tana Mongeau]

I want to and. But I just. I don't want to miss the ball. I don't want to be like, I'm doing stand up and then go out there and not make it great. Like, I want to meet with all the writers and, like, do all the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Yeah. Make it good.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, just before. I. I don't want that up.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. My. My original touring people, they're like, oh, you should just go out there and, like, podcast. I'm like, I want to sing. No one. No one asked for that.

[Tana Mongeau]

You haven't made singing, though. I swear, it's like, no matter what mood you're in, you can just be in the mood of Trisha who made I love you, Jesus, or Trisha, who sang Shallow. And I think there's something so, like, special special.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I love music.

[Tana Mongeau]

Great about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I love my music.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think we've got in the studio. I swear to God, we'll get there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. It's so fun.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was going through my camera roll and I found a video of me after the last time we shot not Loveline. And we had that girl who called in. Do you remember about the catheter? And her man was so mad and she was a nurse. And I got like, re angry. Like, I'm so ready to tell people to dump their significant.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're changing the name to dump them.

[Tana Mongeau]

We have to. And it's like, as we start to shoot more and more, I'll get, like, a little nicer. And, like, think about my old eras where I'd stay with the man, you know, and impression. No. Like, I'm coming in hot today.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. You are. Okay. I'm gonna try and come in with the. I'll come in the opposite way. I'm gonna try and come in with. Trying to find a solution to stay together. Obviously, if someone's telling someone what to do or making someone uncomfortable, that's an easy. Dump him.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I'm gonna try because my solution always was to dump him. So I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna try and come in with the.

[Tana Mongeau]

I like when we have opposing taste as well, because I think that that provides more. Even though we always just end up having the same Exact opinion on everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but we're in a good mood. We're in a loving mood. Is here with you right now. Right in la.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's a good vibe.

[Tana Mongeau]

They're having like the cutest Sunday at my house. They're like all swimming and tanning and I was like, I am a working woman.

[Trisha Paytas]

You really are.

[Tana Mongeau]

We are you.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like a Sunday and it's noon and we go from like noon to 8 to film this because again, because we're both touring people. Like, these are like literally only three days. Like I was looking because I know you said you could make any day work, but I'm like, literally physically we're only here like three days together.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. And we're stacking so many. But it's so great. It's. I respect a lot because I think we both, we were just talking about this off camera, but we both decided to do not Loveline at a time where we were both less busy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And then now we're still making it work because we love to do it. We love you guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just love you and I'm happy for us.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have bedazzled leopard bedazzled cups coming. I have a leopard ottoman coming. We're going full leopard. Our leopard merch is coming within like a month.

[Tana Mongeau]

I swear to God, in three months time she's gonna be like, I have an actual leopard coming to film with you guys on the mic. It's. It's gonna roar. It's gonna.

[Trisha Paytas]

I got a leopard extensions coming. Cuz I want to try and put them in our hair like clips.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wait, that's cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

I really go like all in sometimes. I'm like, I need. I got the leopard Dolce back there I can bring out. I was so excited.

[Tana Mongeau]

Amari had a field day the other day. I can't even do the impression, but mocking me because he comes into my room and he's redecorating his room and he was like, I need a rug. Like, what should I get? And I was like, well, you should get a leopard rug. And then he just starts mocking me. He's like, look at the eight leopard bags I got on Depop this week. Like the kitchen table is leopard and everything table.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's leopard.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, but like I, I trying to buy everything I love when I love something. I'm the same way as you. I want everything to be that way.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I never knew anyone that loved a leopard like that. Truly. Cuz Moses doesn't like leopard. So this is my, like, leopard fantasy. It's like cheesecake, too. When you eat cheesecake, I think. Was it chilies or something? You had a cheesecake. And then I saw you and McCo do the dessert trend. We did it today, too. And you had your mouth open on cheesecake. And I was like, he doesn't like cheesecake either. So whenever I find something else cheesecake, I literally thought, today I'm like, we should order every cheesecake from Cheesecake. We should.

[Tana Mongeau]

The tiramisu one. The last time I got it on tour, there was the biggest hair in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it, like, turned you off.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, but I'll still get it and I'll still eat it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That happens to me whenever there's hair in it. I was like, oh, that's like.

[Tana Mongeau]

It was like, a brutal, long, black hair. But, like, I'm still craving it, so there's something wrong with me mentally.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I love it. When I saw the cheesecake, I was like. Because, like, no one I know loves cheesecake either.

[Tana Mongeau]

Carrot cake is my favorite dessert of all time, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you have an open mouth on that one?

[Tana Mongeau]

I didn't like, like, as open as it. Because it's at the end, too. I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have a carrot cake cheesecake at Cheesecake Factory. Yeah. You never had it. I love carrot cake. You're. You. Me and my dad are the only people I know that like carrot cake. Everyone's like, that's so disgusting.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's so good. And I want to stand up for the carrot cake community. Like, I want them to know that, like, I'm here for them and that.

[Trisha Paytas]

They'Re seen, you know, you have carrot cakes over there.

[Tana Mongeau]

So, so good. Wait, I didn't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Let's get the carrot. Let's get a giant carrot cake.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. I want my wedding cake to be carrot cake, but then Mokoa wants Oreo ice cream cake from Baskin Robbins. We're just. Oh, my God, we love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you talking about a wedding?

[Tana Mongeau]

We do talk about already?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's been two years.

[Tana Mongeau]

I guess we. A year and three months.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly.

[Tana Mongeau]

We talk about. We talk about wedding plans a lot. Like, just things we. But not. Not yet.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I. I even told Moses. I'm like, I don't think they're getting married in Hawaii. I was so excited to go. I was like. I was excited to go to Maui. I was like, we're going to Maui. And then I'm like, he doesn't want it. I don't know why.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, but we're going to Convince him, I think. I think. Because I really want that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want that too. I'm so excited.

[Tana Mongeau]

I also want multiple weddings. I want a shotgun Vegas. And that's, like, what I want. I know he doesn't want them so cute. So it's like the next one, he. I obviously have to value what he wants as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you do two or more than two?

[Tana Mongeau]

It's more than two. Crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

More than just crazy. We try to do three. And I was like, oh, that's a lot. We did too.

[Tana Mongeau]

Why is three kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, three is worth, I think. Get different rings for each one. Like, it's really fun. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, God. Okay. Yeah. We gotta keep shooting this show.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you're. You're gonna be on tour for the next 10 years.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Would you wear, like, a short skirt in Vegas?

[Tana Mongeau]

But yeah, probably, right? Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like sexy.

[Tana Mongeau]

I loved Kourtney Kardashians short and with the. It wasn't. Her veil, like, had, like, a person on it. So I'm like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think. Yeah, like the Mother Mary or something. I don't know. Jesus. I don. Somebody was on it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Dolce. That. Cuz I love a little. You know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should have Dolce do your wedding, too.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay, I'll call them. I don't know if they'll pick up.

[Trisha Paytas]

But they do leopard. They could do a leopard veil.

[Tana Mongeau]

Imagine a leopard wedding dress.

[Trisha Paytas]

That would be actually everything. They might. You never know. They did the Kardashians.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wait, that'd be even. Just not Dolce. Like, just a leopard in Vegas. Like a leopard veil. I don't know if anyone would approve of that other than me, but thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would live for a leopard like us. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm living for your tinsel. I'm gonna copy you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know everyone was doing tinsel. It's so funny. You're like, did you say Nora? And I was like, the only reason I knew that is because Oscar had told me something about tinsel. And I was like, oh, I used to wear tinsel back in my hair in 2018. He thinks the movie's based on my life. And I was like, maybe because, like, there was. I did the Stripper Diaries at this book, and it was like, the same similarities and then the tinsel in the hair. And I was like, oh, that was me.

[Tana Mongeau]

That just shows you that you are the moment and your finger is on the pulse, regardless of if you want to be aware of that or not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I'm just, like, delusional or I probably see it somewhere and Then don't know. And I think it's like, an original idea. And then you're like, oh, yeah, everyone has. What did you say? Oh, Paige had it.

[Tana Mongeau]

She saw an aura. But now you're making me want it because I haven't seen it on a blonde yet. And the gold is pretty.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's giving a little highlights. Yeah. We did, like, a subtle. Because it doesn't curl, so it's kind of like there.

[Tana Mongeau]

But. No, but I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Feel it old.

[Tana Mongeau]

I really do. Did Malibu get it, too?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but I would love to put it in my car because she lives with that stuff. Yeah, that would look really pretty. There's tinsel in there if you want tinsel Party.

[Tana Mongeau]

So who called us? Call us at this number.

[Trisha Paytas]

You look so good. Wait, I can't get over Zo. Pretty. You look like you're on, like, a vacation.

[Tana Mongeau]

I always wear this in Hawaii, actually. I've never brought this outfit to the mainland.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're giving Hawaii. You're giving White Lotus. I love it so much.

[Tana Mongeau]

You've been keeping up with the white. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. It's so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

So good that last. Tonight's a new episode. I think I'm gonna stay up for it. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. Let's do it. Because then we can talk about it when we film on Tuesday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because I.

[Tana Mongeau]

We.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have to step today. The last one was crazy. The one. The monologue about him wanting to be the Asian girls that he was, like, obsessed with.

[Tana Mongeau]

Amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

And all the turns. Because I knew about it before we watched the spoiler. And I was like, okay, the more we're watching it, all the turns. But you know how real that is. That's so real that there's so many people like that. So real.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I feel like you never see that conversation happening.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Tana Mongeau]

On television. But do you think they were lovers.

[Trisha Paytas]

In real life or on the show?

[Tana Mongeau]

On the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I don't know. He looks a little shocked. He looked a little shook.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I guess that's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I would love that. But he looked. He looked shook. But I love how casual the other guy was about it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I agree. And I think normalize that. I feel like, especially in that archetype of man, you, at least in Hollywood or around, like, I see and hear about that a lot. Like, the men who are sex addicted often have underlying issues that are, you know, of that vein.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's very, very, very normal, actually. I know a lot of people that are like that and a lot of guys who. Who like, to be. Yeah. They think they want to be with the girl, but then they want to be the girl. Getting.

[Tana Mongeau]

Then that's why they're funneling them in and out so fast. Ladies, your man may be gay, and that's okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

And black guy was. He just went sober or no. What is it called when Sex. Not sober. When you get rid of sex.

[Tana Mongeau]

Celibate.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he just went celibate. I was like, well, that's, I guess, extreme. I know. It's kind of sad for him. He seemed like he was kind of into it and found his little kink. And then he was kind of like, I'm just gave it up.

[Tana Mongeau]

Celibacy sounds really hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you done it? You've done it. No, Never? Not even when you were single?

[Tana Mongeau]

Never once, really, have I been even remotely celibate. Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

You always are. Like, always sex.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. I mean, if anything, now I've, like, dialed it back, though. Like, I. I just feel more like, normal in my sexual manners, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't that weird how you get in a relationship? I feel the same way. And you're just kind of like, I guess because you can have it anytime. So then you're just like, less.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Chasing it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. And it just becomes more normal. And you're not doing it for wrong or weird reasons. You're not seeking validation with it. Like, you just, you know. You know it's there.

[Trisha Paytas]

And, like, that's what I love. I think I was always like, okay, tonight, who am I gonna see who I got with? So I was, like, constantly wasting time just thinking about that. And I was like, oh, I don't, like, think about that anymore.

[Tana Mongeau]

So true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wow. We can unpack that Patreon too. Yeah, there's a lot there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Patreon.com not loveline for all your sexual questions and desires. It's popping over there, you guys.

[Tana Mongeau]

I have been berating Makoa. I'll save this for the Patreon, actually. But someone called in and said that they had never done something with their boyfriend. And then it made me realize that I need to do it. And I have been like. Like, I. I think his answer is no and I should stop.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I have an update on that for mine, but it's not. The answer was not. No one's gonna get it. We'll share it on the Patreon. We'll share that. And my. And I load of stories similar to that one, so we will.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let her cook.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've looked into a man's eyes While it happened, I've related. I was like, you know what? I was one of those girls that you get hired just to watch. I mean, guys love that, and they do look you in the eyes, and you never really realize why. And you're just kind of like, I don't know what to do. But now I'm like, wait, maybe he was.

[Tana Mongeau]

You gonna leave me on this cliff? I know I'm on the edge of my seat. Like, literally. I'm not kidding.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's why I was wonder. I think that's why White Lotus is so relatable, is because, like, you kind of know everybody like that. It's like, it's so real. Like, those conversations are so real. And what happened? And then he was like, like, think it's so up. And then you're like, no, but, like, I've been there. Or, you know, someone that's like that. You know what I mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

The writing is so talented in that sense that it is, like, so niche but so relatable. And it truly, the whole show feels like you're spying on people in the best way. Like, it's so great.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. The mom, the Parker Posey character, where she's like, what, are you gonna move to Taiwan? Like, I know so many people who are like that here in the United States. They're, like, Buddhist, but you're not from China. Like, that kind of stuff. There's so many people that are like that.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's like, everyone's mom. I feel like she is like, that. That character. And it's so enraging as the. You know, like, you feel for the girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but in a way, you also, like, don't hate him. Like, I don't hate her character. I also don't hate the Patrick Schwarzenegger character. Like, I kind of, like. I kind of like him. Like, he's such. He's so, like, whatever. But, like, he's funny and, like, I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

And, you know, he's just got his issues as well. Like, you know so many guys like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Look at the dad that's always, like, ignoring him and, like, pulling out his blender and stuff. So I'm like, there's. Anyways, it's a good job. We're just talking about White Lotus.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's so great. You need to watch something. Severance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses loves that show. I haven't seen.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. I, like, made a bunch of tick tocks about it when I was walking in. Moses was like, now that Severance is over, what do we do? And I was like, yes, King. Like you get it. Like, I, I like, started a fight with Makoa over severance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does he not watch it?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, he watches it. But there's a scenario in the finale that had me thinking and I'm crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what was it? I heard you say it on Tick Tock but I did not get it. You're like, what if I'm the Holly or something?

[Tana Mongeau]

Spoiler alert. Okay. Oh, Devin. Oh my God. Cover your. Cover your ears. In the finale. Have you not watched it yet? In the finale there's a scenario. So, I mean, you understand how they sever, right? Like, so essentially the whole show's concept is that these people sign up for something in their brain where when they go and clock into work, they become a completely different person. They're still in their body and they're still theoretically themselves, like physically in some of the ways that they think. But when they clock out of work, they don't remember it at all. And when they go back into work, they know nothing about their outside life. They are two different people. They're severing to be two different people. And this obviously causes some complications, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

And one of them being that they form relationships, they fall in love with other people. They do. You know what I mean? Like, like the guy ends up falling in love with the girl while they're in there, but then he's leaving and he has this whole situation with his wife that he thinks died, but she doesn't die and she's. She's kidnapped in the severance world. And it gets to this point in the finale where he kind of has to. His. Any version of himself has to choose between the wife that he, like, thought was dead. I guess it's so hard to explain all of it to you, but he chooses the one that he's in love with inside because he's like, I don't know this on the outside, essentially. And it's so heartbreaking.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yeah, I guess if you don't know the person.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, but it's. But it's. Oh my God. Heart breaks for the version of him on the outside that it's mourn the death of this person that isn't even dead. It's Trisha. I've never been so invested and obsessed with the show. It's. It is insane. Hi. Oh, hi, gorgeous mama.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

She does. She does the Merchant. I know. Just look at her hair, her outfit. Everything looks.

[Tana Mongeau]

We're matching today, right? We got a little red.

[Trisha Paytas]

My mom does the merch out of our garage. I have all the hoodies, and it's just so.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love seeing her kill it for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's every day, Poshmark, Shopify, and now.

[Tana Mongeau]

You'Ve got Not Loveline. You're probably sick of us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she does love it. She's like, more merch. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

You look beautiful.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love you so much. You could be a guest. We're talking about guests. You can come be a guest on that level.

[Tana Mongeau]

Please. You know, she's got the advice.

[Trisha Paytas]

She has the advice for days. Been in the relationships. She's over relationships.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wait, let's. Can she be our first guest?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Come here.

[Tana Mongeau]

For you guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll have our thing. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. She's like, all right. All right, girls. Have fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you so much. Oh, my gosh.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay, I. I am begging you to watch Severance.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wish I would have known because Moses loves it. And I didn't know this was, like, a thing. And I was like, I'm not watching it. But had I known you loved it, I would have been like, okay, let's watch it. I didn't know. It sounds like a boy thing, like, Severance.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, it. It does, but it's not. It's such an. And it's such an interesting concept because it really does make you think, especially in the beginning. Like, would I do this? You know, not for the work that we love and enjoy, but let's say work that we didn't enjoy, or we had a job that we didn't enjoy, or we were going through something traumatic in our real life, and you know what I mean? Like, would I want to just go.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I know Oscar and mother are explaining this plot to me, and I was like, I do that, though. Like, when you do the podcast. Like, when I do this, when I do just Trish, like, we talk about, like, gossipy topics. I never think about. I don't know who talk about Matt and Abby ever passed that. Like, I go into work, I, like, think about the gossip, and then I never think about them again. Sometimes everyone do that.

[Tana Mongeau]

We're just associative queens. For sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

For sure. Me. It's a.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's a higher level of them. You know what I mean? Like, it's. It's really a completely different person. Like, again, spoiler for the Severance listeners, But at one point, this. One of the girls, one of the main characters is in the beginning. You're fine. One of the main characters is this girl, Heli, and she comes to find out that who she is on the outside is kind of this really evil. She's behind all of the severing and she's an evil woman and whatever. And so she tries to end her own life while she's in there because she's like, I don't want you to live on the outside because you're. And if you're going to punish me because all the severed people know is this office, right? Like, they just wake up every day in the office and they work for like nine hours. They have no idea what they're doing. And then they wake up again there and like, let's say their outside person is drinking all night. They just show up hung over. They don't know why. You know what I mean? Like, let's say, like, it's. You know what I mean? So it's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's good thing, right? I feel like that would be a good thing. Like, I would love to come shut off completely. Like, off my. Like, when I'm not on my phone. I, like, love it. And I'm like, God, I wish I could just, like, shut off completely. So you're just like, with your kids. Kids. And then when you have to, like, go into work, you could be on your phone.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think that. So, yeah, heavily in the beginning. And then you start seeing the innies as people, like, they don't know anything about their outside lives. So they'll sit them down and be like, you have two kids. And they're like, what? Like, no, I don't. Like, I, you know, I don't. I don't have two kids. I. I just live in this office every day. I wake up here every single day. And then it's sad for them. And it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's the star? Who's it? Are there any celebrities in it who plays Marquee?

[Tana Mongeau]

Guess. Adam Scott.

[Trisha Paytas]

Adam Scott.

[Tana Mongeau]

It made me love him. It made me love him so much. It is. It's one of the most phenomenal shows I've ever seen in my entire life. What's on Apple. Apple.

[Trisha Paytas]

Apple.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's an Apple TV show, which I didn't even know they.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why had some good going on.

[Tana Mongeau]

Over there until crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

All these, like, streaming platforms, TV shows.

[Tana Mongeau]

Tuby Hooby Looby Galore.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, there's always. I have to be sponsorship. And I was very excited about that. What the. Like, say you're eating spaghetti for the Super Bowl. I'm like, love it. And then I post. And like, who eat spaghetti on a Super Bowl? That's what? Everyone's. Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

I got to be Super Bowl. I did everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Streamed it for free on tubi this year. Not sponsored anymore.

[Tana Mongeau]

But he could have wasn't to be the super bowl ad that made everybody think the super bowl turned off and people were getting like, cussed out and wait, why? It was a commercial, but they, like, made it look like the channel changed. So, like, men everywhere were freaking the out like during the super. Like, who's on the remote?

[Trisha Paytas]

They were like streaming it for free. That was like their. The whole thing was like, we're streaming this. Oh, okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

To be caused fights on the Super Bowl. That was like two years ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess to be likes to be a little controversial. I don't mind a little to be action. Well, the severance is interesting. Yeah, that one is. It kind of sounds like the other one. The not the purge. What is the one where she comes out of the body substance. Like, it doesn't it sound kind of like the same thing? So it's like, what is happening?

[Tana Mongeau]

Wow. When you put it that way. I guess because it's time on time off, different people kind of thing. But severance is so amazing. Amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who do you pick? Here's a like, okay, not a severance question, but like. Okay, let's say you're married. Asking about this because I've been with Moses five years. Okay. Which is kind of short in the grand scheme of life. Right. Like, if he lives to be 90. Okay. What if I'm like, die right after five years, and then he finds another wife and they're together 40 years. Does he get buried with her? Does he get buried with me? Which one are you choosing? Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

Stop it right now. Trisha Paytas. Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, you probably go with the one year with the most if you spend 40 years with someone.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, but, like, I'm rising from the dead to cause a little hell. Or like, can all three of us be buried? Can we have just like a lie?

[Trisha Paytas]

Absolutely not. I do not want another itune with me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then am I gonna just be fraternity by myself forever, which is my biggest fear?

[Tana Mongeau]

You are. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, you're an icon. Like, there's. There's something iconic like Elvis Presley, you know, probably, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he got dug up by people. They, like, dug him up.

[Tana Mongeau]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's why they put him in the back, because people dug him up and stuff like that.

[Tana Mongeau]

You swear to God on the Bible?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so. I mean, I wasn't there, but I've heard that. Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

What do you. And then did they get the rings and they were touching his body. That's so up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I know. I was like, where do I go anyway? Not to me too. More. But you're like, where do you go? Like. Because then there's Marilyn, right? The rumor is that she's in that one that Hugh Hefner bought beneath her, and then someone bought one right above her, and he was, like, laid face down. So he's, like, always on top of Marilyn for all of eternity. And so.

[Tana Mongeau]

I hate men. I hate men.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I'm like, I guess you can do it on your property. I guess you can get some sort of, like, barrier aerial license and you can do it on your property so no one can come get you.

[Tana Mongeau]

But cremation is special.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I did too. Moses is like. He thinks it, like, burns your soul. And I'm like, oh, my God, that scares me. He's like, don't do that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, when you put it that way.

[Trisha Paytas]

But maybe not. I mean, that's a little. Maybe controversial. He likes to just be. He wants to just be right away in the earth so you could, like, soak back into the water. But yeah, cremation, because you can also make yourself a little diamond if you're a cremation.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I would want people to snort me.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's.

[Tana Mongeau]

I haven't thought all of it out, to be honest with you. It's so scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't like to do it either.

[Tana Mongeau]

I do often think about, like, weirdly. I do, like, morbidly think about, what if I die? And, like, Makoa's life? Like, what? Like, yeah, that's crazy that you think of that too. Because I do think about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, wait, what's gonna happen? Like, I guess there's, like, life insurance, but then it's like, what do those companies go under? You know what I mean? Because, like, who just say, life insurance is forever.

[Tana Mongeau]

Even with the fires, when they fire insurance, they were just taking it away from people. As the virus were happening, it made me realize insurance is not all it's cracked up to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you gotta dig holes in the ground and start burying your money.

[Tana Mongeau]

I also just thought a little more that you and Moses have kids together. So I feel like you guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I get so sad when think about that. So I always manifest like, okay, we're gonna be the other 50 more years. We're gonna see the kids get married. Like, I was just trying to visualize the future. So anyways, that was A very hypothetical what I said, but, you know, you never know when you're talking about the severance thing. I was just like, yeah, like, I don't know. I guess if you're. I don't know know, it'd be hard to be.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's hard, yeah. It's like a. That's just a crazy thought and I don't have the answers to any of that. I'm like such a day by day person. Even like someone people ask me my five year goals, I'm like, I don't know. Like, yeah, I think it's important and special to set goals and think about where you envision yourself. But at the same time, I think it's important to soak in the reality of, A, how fragile life is, but B, how you never know where it's gonna go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, for sure. And it's also like, you don't want that pressure on yourself and don't you want life to happen to you? You know what I mean? Like, I always thought I need to have kids by the time I was 25. And it was like so much pressure. And then when I didn't hit that, I was like, so depressed and so sad, like, it's never happening. I'm like, well, thank God I didn't have kids at 25, you know, like, I would have been such a mess, so.

[Tana Mongeau]

Exactly. Like, if you asked me five years ago, I would be like, I would for sure be married by now. And like all these things and it's like, now that's not where I feel and where I'm at and whatever, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or when people are like, oh, what are you gonna do after YouTube? And I was just like, I don't know, like, whoever knows their job security? Like that happens to anybody at any job.

[Tana Mongeau]

People just new things happen every day, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, I know. And it's like you just go, go, go with the flow of it all.

[Tana Mongeau]

With the flow. I believe in going with the flow to an extent. Because sometimes, yeah, everything ends up being greater than you ever dreamed of.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is the tea. Oh, my God. I couldn't even imagine having a life like this now. And I was like, oh, God, thank God.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I couldn't agree more.

[Trisha Paytas]

How great is that? I know, it's so cool. It's like, I love seeing you happy.

[Tana Mongeau]

I wish we could just go tell our younger selves.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, we can. To everyone watching, I always tell people that I was like, you know what? Like, life turns out, like, better than you think. So don't try and Think. Don't try and overthink it. I was always trying to think, I need a man. I need to find this, and it's just, like, it'll just turn out better. And you couldn't even imagine. Like, I couldn't even imagine a man like Moses, because that was, like, never in my vision. Like, a man. Like, same, you know, like, the man.

[Tana Mongeau]

That I was dying over, like, thought that I needed so bad that, like, if they didn't love me, it was the end. All be all. It's like, oh, my God. Yeah, girl, get up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'll just stand up.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's true with, like, all celebrities. Like, I was like. I was always thinking, I'm gonna end up with someone famous. I need someone famous. I want people to recognize them. When he comes to a room, all the stuff like that, and I'm like, God, they're all just, like, awful. Like, there's all. They're all cheaters. There's not, like, one celebrity, even if you think they're good, they're not. Like, you always hear, like, shady stuff because there's just too much information. I don't really blame them, to be honest, but the people that are with them, they just put up with it because that just comes with the territory, you know?

[Tana Mongeau]

I feel like I had to come to the realization as well, that. And this is not always the case. There are such things as powerful couples where two people are powerful. But a lot of times, I don't know, especially as a woman, when you want to end up with a man who's a celebrity, you are taking on so much more of the role of, like, a trat wife, you know, and, like, just seconding yourself to who they are and succumbing to, like, their world and having to, like, put their world and their fame and their needs first and. Yeah, so on and so forth, you know? And even when it's like. Even like, Kim and Kanye, like, he ended up wanting her to be all of these things that Kim Kardashian is not, you know? And, like, it's. It's just hard. Like, I don't think it always works out.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think, like, I think Holly has talked about that, too. Like, she always said that, too, with the men she was with. They kind of wanted more traditional, like, wife and not, like, doing her own thing and stuff like that. And it is hard to find that, but it works. I mean, like, some women love that, and you know what I mean? And I feel like, in a sense, Moses gave up a lot of his life to like support mine, you know, like dreams and stuff. So like it works if you find it. But two people together who both want the spotlight and it's like very hard. I think.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I think there are exceptions to the rule, but to move to Hollywood and then make it in Hollywood and look for that, you. You very well may end up being super let down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You know, I was disappointed every time. I was like, I want to be something. Even like the D list people I've been with has always were like just cheaters constantly and just drugs and just like so much stuff. And I was just like, yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And then a lot of times there's like envy or weird control over if you're succeeding more than them. Like there's just so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that was. I was watching something about Katy Perry and Russell Brand. I knew nothing about them in 2010, but like, I guess that was like. That whole thing was that he was like super jealous and tried to sabotage her. Like the night that she was New Year's Eve on concert, he like text her that he wanted a divorce.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like right before went on stage. And that performance, I have goosebumps thinking about that performance because imagine somebody and narcissism at its finest, you know, ruining one of your big special moments. But before you walk out onto a big stage, major moment of your career. So I would walk out there and crash out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah. She thought she had to cancel all this. That. Oh, I know. It actually makes me. And she never heard from him again. She. That was the last time she ever heard from him was that night. And the text. I was like, that's crazy. And you're married for like a year and a half, two years. It's like that's the craziest thing ever heard.

[Tana Mongeau]

I will say though, sometimes in life you'll long for that man to hit you up or that ex to hit you up or whatever. But sometimes it's like being left the alone is also something that is beautiful. Like heavy on. You should just leave me alone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but they do. There's been people in the past couple years. I really do think my life has been like happiness. And then those guys that from like 14 years ago hit me up. Like 14 years ago, this person I was like in love with hit me up and I was like, this is like last year and then again this year. And I was like, what the hell? Obviously I didn't reply, but it was like email, text, like any sort. I was like, that's crazy. I've heard this person says 23 years old, and he's, like, hitting me up.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I think it's so weird character. You know, though, like, when you don't do all these people wrong and they kind of finally, I can confidently say, like, every single person I've ever dated, except for maybe one, has come, like, back around. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, it, like, weirdly feels good.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then at the same time, you're like, okay, stop. You're 60. I'm 37. Okay. Like, that's crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

100. It's like a nice. It's nice to feel, like, vindicated, I guess, and be like, wait, maybe I wasn't that awful or crazy or nuts. I kind of was, though, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

But don't you ever want to know? Sometimes I'm like, I always want to do, like, a question mark back. I'm like, no, dress. Don't even, because that was such a horrible time in your life.

[Tana Mongeau]

Sometimes I will hear people out. I can't lie. Just not in, like, a bad way. But I. I don't know. I feel like sometimes if someone wants to get something off their chest, it's like, go ahead. Like, tell me what you need to say. You just have to respond respectfully and accordingly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, did you see that? That was like a Alex Earl today on her Live. That Braxton. Did you see that one where she's like, braxton got hit up by one of his exes today. Oh, my God. He. You could just tell he didn't know what to do, but also wanted to leave immediately. He's like, okay, that was.

[Tana Mongeau]

I saw that. That was wild. That's like. That reminded me of me in some different times. I'm not gonna lie. It was unexpected. I was like, no way. You just said that on Live.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm lying.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I can also, like, recognize that sometimes you just do things like that as a girl. You're just live, and you. You're feeling that way, and maybe you do want it to sting a little to him because it's stinging to you.

[Trisha Paytas]

The general consensus was on her side, which I was kind of happy about because so many people were like, honestly, I get it when, you know you're not supposed to say something, but you're just itching to say it to get it out. And the way she said it, too, you could just like. And he was. He held it in pretty good because then he just leaves like, that was yesterday.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she was just so.

[Tana Mongeau]

That is. That is womanhood at its finest. I will say that. And then she. What did she say? She was like, I guess it's just a girl's party anyways, like, or something like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

She like, closed the door too, when he left. She's like, okay, bye. Braxton left?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Like, oh, my God. Real.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's real.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it's just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she younger? How are you guys the same age? Or is she younger?

[Tana Mongeau]

I think she's younger than me.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's young. God, she's been around. She's been doing so much lately, so I didn't know. But yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Marks everything. She's killing it because she's just that girl. She's so hot and she's killing it. And she's got the personality too. Even. Like, I was watching her and like the whole family. I would love to see a reality show about the Earls. Like, I feel like she's interesting enough that it would be. Oh, not like forced. Like a lot of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, and her dad's the manager. And then her dad's married to like an ex prostitute or something that was with some congressman that was. I remember that story a little bit. And they have a daughter. And then Braxton, he seems sweet. He's like a football player.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. It's all interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jake Shane will probably be on there.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. Ashton Earl's interesting. The whole family. I was like, watching them. She like, order. Secretly ordered all these kids crumble cookies. And like, the mom doesn't let all the little ones have them. So they were like whispering and like, having them. And it was like I was like, this would even. This would be an interesting reality television show moment. Like, be, you know, like I could. I would watch.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would watch it too. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Keeping up with the Earls. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz that little clip, even in the live, I kind of loved seeing that side of her. I was like, oh. Because she was like. You could just tell. She. And then as soon as he even came in, she was like doing like dancing. I was like, oh. She was like. And the little sister trying to ask questions like, what's your favorite mascara? Like Braxton's Ex Tex.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's real. And it's like, she's hot, you know, she's a hot girl. She knows, you know, like, that aren't like, you know, like, for the most part, it's like, it's not like she's like, quiet, like. Like she's gonna say what's on.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's sure hot, young and rich. And it's like famous.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I would be standing on my.

[Trisha Paytas]

Too, you know, and I'm problematic. She's like, not A messy girl. And I'm just like, gotta.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, she gives us a little bit of mess. Like I eat it up every time I saw that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh I was, I was, I was living for it. I just, I love a little bit like that which is everything. And she should keep, she keeps doing it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. We love Alex because like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, because when someone gets a text from an ex like I've never seen, I really do. Like I used to look at Moses phone all the time. I like don't anymore, but I really don't think he does. I always tell him like when that person texted me or I had another. I think I told you like the stand up comedian was in my DMs like that I dated forever ago. And I was like, I tell him because I'm like, it feels weird, you know? It feels a little weird.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Open and honest, always transparent. My phone is truly like a hotline bling. Like I always am like, should I just change my number? Because it's wild. Like once a week I'll get a text where I'm like, I should change my phone number.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you have two phones or you have one?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I had two and then I lost one of them. And then I was like, anyone ever could find this phone in the lock screen as me and like whatever. I like couldn't. And I had this whole, I was like, you know what, this isn't for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I always keep my original number because like you know, for YouTube and for all those things when it like text you your code or whatever.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I'm like, how do you, how do you get those codes if you don't? So I always keep my original phone number. So that's the one people text from like 14 years ago. But then I have like a new one that I'm just like, okay, that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Way people now I should, I should. But then it's every time I've ever had two phones I noticed that eventually it just bleeds. Like people get both numbers and then they're blowing you up on both cuz you're ignoring them. And it's like I'm ignoring you on one phone for a reason, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh well don't give them the number to your new phone.

[Tana Mongeau]

It just always happens people. I don't, I, I, I think how my personality is. I give off very open book and like, whatever, like, you know what I mean? Like someone will just walk up to me and be like, give me your phone. I'm putting my number in like, you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like the way people just not me. I don't call me, don't text.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I should. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which by the way, I know we're. I know we're like almost at the end of the episode, but I have to also say thank you. I FaceTime Tana one of my meet and greets.

[Tana Mongeau]

She's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you answered it so fast. If it was me, you know me, I would never answer for. You could say something crazy, right? You said oh, I thought the not Loveline set was like on fire like that. And I was like, that could actually happen. And I still won't answer her. FaceTime. I'd be like, text me if it's an emergency. Like I hate FaceTime.

[Tana Mongeau]

I loved it. I love a FaceTime call. And then I see a FaceTime call from Trisha Paytas. I'm like, what the is going on? Seriously? Like cuz you're not a facetimer. I was like, what the hell? And then I answered and you're on stage, live on stage. And it was so cute. There was this little guy in the front row who had a canceled merch on. And like I love when there's crossover cuz we always get the Trish shirts at our show too. And it's like, it's just special to feel like there are people who consume it all. And to be honest with you, it lit a fire under me. Like I immediately started writing my show like even harder for tour. I was like, I missed this. She's thriving. It looks amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they love you. That specific show. Like everyone had a Tana question and I love it. I love when people ask. But that was everybody. And then someone was so bold. By the way, I'm not gonna do this any other show because everyone's like, we should ask this. I'm like, no, but like, but there was so many. Then one person was just like, can you FaceTime her? I was like, and you know I'm so.

[Tana Mongeau]

You can't say no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I was like, I mean in the future I'll be like, no.

[Tana Mongeau]

But like no, you could do it every single show. I have so much fun. I'm not kidding. I had like, it literally made my day. I like after I hung up, I told my co. I like that gave me some energy. Like I felt like I was on the stage.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were loving it. They asked you questions and we were in Atlanta, Georgia, which is a peach state. And they. I literally asked your favorite flavor of vape and you said something like peach ice. Yeah. They were.

[Tana Mongeau]

They just discontinued it. Geek Bar. Bring it back. It's helping me, though. It's helping me.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was so sweet. It made. And it made their day. And that's the one thing I would never. I don't know what came over me. I was like, oh, I'm not. I hate FaceTiming anybody. I'd be like, oh, my gosh. What? You know?

[Tana Mongeau]

But I literally loved it. Like, don't even think twice. You know, I love, loved it, you know, and they loved it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then it was so fun. It made me feel cool. It's like, you know when you have, like, a. Someone's phone number and you're like, actually, yeah, let me call it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would hope you have my phone number at this point. But it was funny. They just asked me my vape flavor, and then the whole crowd was cheering. And then Trisha and I said, bye. Like, it was really funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was. No, I. I actually do, like, the meet and greets are my favorite thing. Because you do, like, a Q a.

[Tana Mongeau]

To the VIPs, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I do like. I do like the super one at the beginning. It's like a little party, and then I do, like, the line, and then the line people come and do the Q and A. And it's like 50 people or whatever. And it's, like, really fun. I love doing it. That's like, my favorite. It really is my favorite part because it's just like, everyone's so hyped. And I always say this. All my shows, like, I'm so, like, mid as far as, like, I don't do much, but they, like, hype me up as if I'm, you know, Lady Gaga.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're an icon. But I love the intimate moments, too. Like that. Because you feel like you can say anything. I get in trouble at things like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, oh, yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because it's so personal. It's like I'm just talking to these, like, 50 people. It's like a panel. Almost like you're a congresswoman, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

But then you gotta be like, I always know. I'm like this. Whatever I say is ending up on Tik Tok. So I'm like, let me.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. And I, like, always convince myself in that moment. And I do this with the canceled podcast as well. Even on Just Trish, I do this. I convince myself in the moment. Like, I'm not gonna cut it. Who cares that this ends up on TikTok? And then when it's on TikTok and has a million views in the comments, or like starting a new scandal. I'm like, I'm an idiot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I never get better.

[Trisha Paytas]

You do. You've been doing good though. There hasn't been any crazy clips.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. But I'm sure the second my feet hit that stage on tour, it's. I'm gonna be.

[Trisha Paytas]

You guys do good at like not getting those out there. Cuz even the first one, I had no idea what was going on. Like, I was like, pretty.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. It's for the most part. Like when I look back, there's a lot of stories that I expected to end up getting me in trouble on the Internet. And it was only like one or two little things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really. Yeah. Because I don't remember.

[Tana Mongeau]

Didn't even really get me in trouble. Just got other people in trouble. But you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It just went viral. But it's not your fault. You know, there's. They're real stories.

[Tana Mongeau]

But the stress of those viral moments.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh I know. And I know when you're like going through it, it is like the worst. Because yeah. As much as you love talking about drama, you don't want to be the drama. Especially now. We talk about this all the time. When you're like, happy in life, you're like, we know we've done some past. And so when you get involved in drama, you're like, oh, are they gonna bring up something that 10 years ago happened? And I grew in the happiness that's happening now. 100.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's like even just with writing this book right now, I've been like, I just. It's so stressful knowing that I'm gonna put this piece of work out there and I'm going to expose. And not even expose it necessarily all are negative. But like. And it's all. It's the truest form of truth I've ever told in my life. Not an ounce of my book is even remotely exaggerated. So it's just like, I don't know. I'm gonna have to like, get in a cave. I need to like buy a cave now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you're gonna find the opposite. I feel like when. Especially like when females like release their books like Kiki Palmer and stuff like that. Like, it's almost like this, like final once and for all. It's out there. It's done by the book. So when people ask you about in the future, it's like, it's in the book. And buy it. It feels better in print. I don't know. Something feels better in print. Doesn't feel as gossipy. It doesn't feel as whatever.

[Tana Mongeau]

And, yeah, it is, like, truly just my story. And it's wild. I, like, have. I haven't. It's cool that you were asking me about the Chelsea Handler thing, and I haven't been able to decide where my book ends. Do you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because it's like, I could just keep going to literally, not Loveline to present day. Like, I don't know where it ends. And I felt like the other day when I interviewed Chelsea Handler, I got home and I just started bawling because I realized that that day is going to be the end of my book. And it was, like, so special because my opening, like, part of the book is talking about how I used to pass her office every day and just dream and just dream and hope she'd walk out. And, like, when I was really young, because Jordan Morona's office was, like, across from her office.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it E? Was it at E or where?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, it was just in the Valley.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's. But it was. Yeah, it was just across and she never came out or whatever. But I would take meetings, and people would tell me, like, this is what your career is gonna be. And I was too young to like, yeah, I'm gonna be Chelsea Handler. It's like, I'm 17. I don't know what I'm gonna be. I didn't know, you know, But I grew up on her. And I was like, wow, that's. That is the end. That is the final.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. That's like a full. Like, full circle.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is, like, good.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And also, I think then you'll have so much more after that moment. But they always say, if you want to write the second book, make sure you have enough for the second book. So it's like, that's a good ending moment. And, like, all the you're gonna do this year is just, like, a whole another chapter. And I think.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I was always very, like, worried that once I put this out that, like, what the hell do you write about next? But Chelsea just put out a book, and obviously, her being my main inspiration for all of it. I mean, she's 50, and she's writing all about all the things she's Learned up to 50. And I was like, you know what?

[Trisha Paytas]

How many books does she have? She has a lot. Seven.

[Tana Mongeau]

Seven.

[Trisha Paytas]

Seven books. Six New York Times bestsellers. She is an icon. I can't wait to see it, because it hasn't aired yet. And I was, like, so excited for you.

[Tana Mongeau]

We should do we should do books at the same time? I just love doing things at the same time.

[Trisha Paytas]

So hard. I. Yeah, we're, like, working on one. I have someone that, like, helps me put my thoughts together, but it's actually, like, so hard to, like, get it in my voice because I've written my own books, but I don't love the way they come out. So I need someone to help me, but I'm also like, oh, I need someone to have my exact voice. And it's been really hard to find someone that has my exact voice.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, I don't know if anybody has your exact voice.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've been interviewing. I think I've written with, like, three or four writers now. And I'm just like. Like, I just. I can't get it right.

[Tana Mongeau]

Can I guess what? Can I. I have a. Like, a little. Are you gonna do something around manifestation? No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone says I should, but. No, originally it was just like more of just like a book about life lessons sort of thing. Not necessarily even a tell, but I should actually. Maybe I should pivot. I don't know. Cause so many people say that.

[Tana Mongeau]

But even when I posted the after Chelsea, like, all my comments were like, the Trisha manifestation is working, and I swear to God it's true. Trisha. That so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think there's much secret. I think it's visualizing something for yourself.

[Tana Mongeau]

You have put it into words to me so many times in ways that do stick with me for life. Like, I mean that, like, you really have just. I am just observing you. Like, obviously I get the pleasure of being around you and observing you and whatnot, but just, I don't know, the way you believe it and the way that you speak it, and it's very special. I've never met anyone like you or who does it like you in that sense. And I. I think it'd be a great read.

[Trisha Paytas]

It works. And like, I think you spoke it into existence. You talked about Chelsea being on your flight. You're like, oh, my God, I can't believe this happened. You know what I mean? I think putting stuff out there, which can make you look either crazy or whatever, or someone sees it and they're like, oh, actually, you know. And I think it's just. I don't know, you could either look at it as you're a crazy person, or, you know, it's out there. You know what I mean? And I think I'd rather just put it out there, you know, and let someone. Someone in the universe will hear you.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

And if it's meant for you, it'll be yours. And if it's not, then that's it.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's like the most beautiful thing. Oh, that's one emo lately.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Everything makes you want to cry. Because I'm so grateful these days. Just. Life is so amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's a secret too. To manifestation. Being thankful for what you have. Like, I'm always thankful. I'm always like, oh, my God. Waking up in the morning, getting to be here, getting to all this stuff like that.

[Tana Mongeau]

So damn good. And it's like. God, I. I always say it, but I just hope we show the girlies that it gets better. Because it was. We were trenches. I was trenches. I'll speak for myself.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was trenches.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Like, for so long.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I. Yeah, just you, You. You pulled. Yeah. You got. You always. To me, you always seem like you had it under control. Like, I feel like I've never seen you. Cuz, like, online you would do, like, your dramatic story times. I just feel like I've never seen you. Like, I know you've been sad, obviously in life, but I've never seen you like, you know. Are she okay?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I guess. I. I would, like, try to hide a lot of the real, real darkness, you know, for a long time, but I don't know, just lately everything feels like light.

[Trisha Paytas]

You look light too. Like, you look light. Bright, clean girl energy. Everyone sees it. Everyone's like, ah. And I love seeing it too.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's just great. We're in a gray era. Do we take like one call?

[Trisha Paytas]

We're like, that's it. We could also do a disclaimer. Be like, it's a talking episode.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

To tell people.

[Tana Mongeau]

Not to mention six episodes in three days. Like, you can say that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Six episodes in three days. No. Six episodes in one day. No, 18. 18 in three days. If we do six a day.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, wait, we're not filming.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're not filming six episodes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, Patreon episodes.

[Trisha Paytas]

But those to me, episodes, that's like six episodes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, I go home and feel like I shot six episodes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know what you're saying. I love that you come to my house too. Because I. I told you I drove to Jeff in Hollywood. It was like an hour and a half in traffic and then an hour and a half back, and I was.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, traffic has been crazy. And it's like, shut the up and move to Georgia, if you're even going to say this sentence. But like, the traffic lately has been so Much worse than normal.

[Trisha Paytas]

So bad.

[Tana Mongeau]

It has been taking me an hour and a half to get to Hollywood.

[Trisha Paytas]

Craz.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you know I think I'm buying an apartment in Hollywood. I'm so ill, dude. I can't adjust fully. And I, I, I hate to. I even. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you buying or renting?

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm gonna buy, and then I'm gonna maybe rent it out to someone like, to pay for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you can't adjust to the Valley.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just am deeper than I think I thought. And I keep. It's just. Oh, my God. I keep having in Hollywood, and I'm like, I'm either late and I'm trying so hard not to be late. That's the thing. The other day, I, like, left my house at. And I live, like, realistically 20 minutes from Hollywood. If you took all. If you took all the traffic away. And I left my house at 8 something in the morning, which, you know, is already just so hard for me. Okay. I had foundation on. I had a kitten heel on. I left at 8:15 to get there by 9:15. And then I just sat there in the car and the time kept going up. And I didn't get to Hollywood until 10:30. And I was like, all I want to do is just be on time. I'm in a new era and, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't make it happen.

[Tana Mongeau]

And you have been so.

[Trisha Paytas]

You literally have been so punctual. It's crazy. I always allow, like, 10 to 15 minutes real too late. But you're like, on time. I was like, holy. Get down there.

[Tana Mongeau]

So hard to just care and, like, show people I care and just, you know, you can't be in this era and then start. Be late to everything, Tana. Like, you got to work on it as much as you can. And it's like the traffic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can you do a zoom? I zoom everything. You have to be in person.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That parking. And it's like you really. All of it could have been a zoom. You're just like, this could have all been a zoom. Unless you have to go in person for something.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's so funny because the Valley is theoretically, it is. I see. I'm saying theoretically. It literally is so much nicer than Hollywood.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's beautiful. There's parking lots, there's greenery, there's open roads. It's gorgeous. It's 20 minutes from Hollywood on a good day at 9pm and it's like, I miss the grime and the hall. Like, there's this. I don't. I'm Just like a Hollywood at heart. I need that like tattooed on something. But like no.

[Trisha Paytas]

When I went to Jess place and he's nice. His, his. We found out, I don't know if we said on air, but he pays the exact amount in rent as I do my mortgage.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And, and it's, it's nice. He's in a nice apartment. But right when you leave his apartment, I mean just like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, yeah, you can even like Brooke, she's got like the most insane Hollywood high rise on planet earth and you just walk down it and people are on the road.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like just using drugs. Like I left at like 7pm and people were just like using on the street and I was just like, what the.

[Tana Mongeau]

I feel at home. It's so strange. I love Hollywood. It's so bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy. It is. It is crazy that I used to love Hollywood too, but it has gotten a little bad and obviously I have.

[Tana Mongeau]

Kids and I romanticize it to a point. That is mental illness. Like I went to my smoke shop in Hollywood the other day and I walked in and there might as well have been like Taylor Swift playing. And like, like I was like, oh my God, this is my place. And it's like, it is, it's Lose Smok Shop on Sunset. Like you're fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it loose? Is that his name?

[Tana Mongeau]

I love loose. If you're in Hollywood, Lou Smoke shop is the best smoke shop ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's nothing I, I miss about it. I. To be honest, I even went in, I was like, oh, is there food to eat around here? Like, no, there's like nothing. There's like that Burger King that I used to always go through. I'm like, I'm not going through that. That's like Burger King. I know the two for six. That was where it was at the chicken sandwich. And it is a good breaking. But I was like, I'm just gonna go home and make something.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, it's, it's brutal and I'm, I'm trying to just adjust slowly but surely trying restaurants and just like re centering my life around the valley. But it's so hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like you're in the best area for restaurants. We almost moved that area because there's so many good restaurants that we're like obsessed with.

[Tana Mongeau]

I need you to send me like the Trisha Paytas master list.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's so many good ones. We have all of them. Like even that, the chain ones, you know, I love Chain. I love like Benihana Chili's. But then there's Also like really good ones there. You have the best. Like I said, we almost moved there. It's just like way more expensive where you are. So we're like come out this way.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're so wild. It's. I mean it's the Valley. It's better. It is. I just either something the grime is in me me. I am trying to shake it. But I am touring Hollywood apartments.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you would go like say the night at your apartment in Hollywood?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, dude. Trisha, this is actually. This is the most insane ever. Okay? I want to get it, I want to write my book in it. Okay. I feel like I'm not serving inspiration. This is. You're buying an apartment to write a book in it. It's like what the you saying, Tana? And then I would want to rent it out and like infinite money glitch it, right? Like have the person be paying my mortgage until it's paid off. And then I don't know, it just would be nice to have like. If there's a world where I ever want to rent my house out, then I could just go be in my.

[Trisha Paytas]

Switch to the apartment. That's.

[Tana Mongeau]

And what the kind of out of touch conversation is this? No one relates to this. I sound insane.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, can I tell you, this is exactly. We're talking about the touring and stuff like that. I'm like, I really need a lake house to finish my book. Like I want to live on the lake and like write a book. Like Secret Window, Johnny Depp. I'm like, that's where I need to write it. So I've been like stuck on this book too for like years.

[Tana Mongeau]

At least there's one person in the.

[Trisha Paytas]

World who relates to me. I need to go on this tour so I can sit at the lake to write my book. Like that's how it's going to happen. And no, can't do it here.

[Tana Mongeau]

And in reality it's like Tana, go to your backyard. You know, it's just go to a Starbucks. I'm so easily distracted. It's hard for me cuz I, I found that I do my best writing on a plane and I was literally debating booking like nine one ways back and forth from New York City just to like sit and. Because I get some distracted and it's like, it's insane because it's like just write it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you're gonna finish it. You're gonna go on a Europe and an Australian tour.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know I need to just lock the in and stop making excuses. I don't Need a Hollywood apartment or nine flights. It's just like, I get so distracted at home, and then, I don't know, it's. I have to go to such a dark head space, too, to recount a lot of my life. I think that's what it is. So it's like I'm in this dark head space. I'm writing and I'm crying and I'm there and it's good and I'm killing it. And then, like, Amari walks in the room and he's like, should we get Jersey Mike's for lunch? And I'm like, I love you and life's good. I want Jersey mics. And now I'm no longer nine and miserable anymore.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. No, that is actually so true, though. The realities of being a book writer, being an author, and it's also just.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, oh, my God, I'm about being happy. Like, it's. You know?

[Trisha Paytas]

But hey, it's a good thing to complain about. You know what I mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

It is.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is being happy. Are we here for a call?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, sure. Let's take a call. Devin, don't be sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm talking to you. We're doing 12 episodes in 48 hours, basically, so no.

[Tana Mongeau]

And we're. We're literally one, so I. I can't even stress.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll speed it up and this is.

[Tana Mongeau]

What we do for episode one. Okay? We. This is what we do. I hope you guys like it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Disclaimer always at the beginning that they're talking until the one hour mark. Hi, Trish. Hi, Tana. Love you both. Trisha, congratulations on another pregnancy. So exciting. My question has to do with pregnancy and infertility. So my partner and I have been trying for over a year now, and it is so defeating. And I've been trying to be a manifestation queen like you, Trish, and, you know, visualize it and really believe to my core that I'm pregnant and it's happening. But I keep getting disappointed month and month over, and I guess I just need some advice on how do you stay positive in this journey. It's. It's a tough one. Love you both. Bye. She sounds so positive already. Because it's so hard. Hard. Oh, that's so hard. And it's the worst thing to hear. Like, it's such a hard thing to talk about this because people who struggle with infertility are trying to get pregnant. It's like the worst thing to hear. It happens when you least expect it or when you're not trying. You know, it's Like. Like, off with that. And it's. And then sometimes it's the case, sometimes it's not. And it's just, like, I was depressed for so long, I've been trying to get pregnant. I always talk about this. I'm very open about it. Like, literally. Literally since I was, like, 23, that was the first time I knew I let people fully. I know we're not on Patreon, but just do it. And I never. I always would let people because I just wanted to get pregnant. I didn't care if it was a 119. I get whatever. Like, I was so desperate to be a mom, so literally my whole life, since I was 23 years old, just raw dogging it, just trying to get pregnant. And sometimes I was with someone for a couple years that I was like, oh, I want a baby with this person. For real. For real. So I try extra hard. I'd do, like, the ovulation days.

[Tana Mongeau]

And also you're, like, upside down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, literally upside down. Yeah, all the time. Anything you tried, I would make sure it's ovulation day. The time, the stick, everything. So I was, like, peeing on the stick. Ovulating wasn't getting pregnant. It was, like, so crazy. And I was so sad. And for so long, I was just like, I'm never gonna get pregnant. And I started saying that. I would say that to everyone. I had a boyfriend at 30. I was like, I can't get pregnant, so you can just do whatever. Like, you know, I just started saying it to people. Moses, I can't get pregnant, so just whatever. And, like, I think guys, either they did and. And believed, didn't care or didn't believe me, so they were just like, whatever. But it was true. It was true. And then I would do the HSG test when I was in a relationship. It didn't work. So I was constantly saying I couldn't get pregnant. I couldn't get pregnant, even to Moses. And, like, I'm like, I just can't get pregnant. That's just what it is. And then, like, the minute I switched it, which, again, if you're struggling with fertility, doesn't happen for anyone. But she sounds like someone who believes in, like, manifestation. So I'm just telling you what works for me. The minute I switched, it was like when we got married, and I was like, you know what? I see us having a baby. I see it happening because I used to just spend all my money. I would spend all of it. I'd have, like, 100 to $200,000. My bank account. Spend it all like, I'm never gonna have kids. Whatever. Meemo's. When we got married, we did the. The Maldives. We did music videos. I. I think I blew $2 million that year. And that was my money. And then we went broke. I tell the story, and then I owed money to the irs, and we had no money, but I was like, I don't have kids. It doesn't matter. But then when we got married, I was just like, no, I see myself having kids. Like, I see it. Whatever. And then we did the HSG test, which is like a fertility treatment, and then got pregnant right away. After that test, it clears your tubes or whatever. So that got. That was cool. Second time, too. It wasn't working. We were trying to get pregnant naturally. And then we did the HSG test again. Got. Got pregnant, and then I. All of a sudden I started being like, oh, my gosh. Like, I kept. I remember we were talking about it after baby number two, after Elvis, and I was just, like, just. Just inside me, you know, it's hard for us to get pregnant. We had the HSG test, like, whatever. And Moses kept being like, no, I just feel like. I feel like you're a baby machine now. I feel like it's like a factory of babies coming out of you. I was like, that's so crazy. Like, and I was the one not believing it, but he was, like, manifesting this thing where I was just, like, all of a sudden could like, make all these babies. And then, like, literally, like, a baby came around four months later. I was like, what? The one time? One time?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, when it was one time.

[Trisha Paytas]

It happened. Like, we literally had sex one time. Because it was four months postpartum, so I couldn't really have sex anyways, and I was still, like, bleeding and stuff. And it was like, one time, and it just happened. Anyways, the point of all that is, is, like, stay positive. Because I would hear so many stories on tick tocks of people who adopted, like, three kids and they were all adults. And then, like, after those kids were adults, 20 years, like, 20 years later, they had their own baby. You know what I mean? And they were like. So I just. You hear those stories and you just have to believe that it's true. And I believe, like, it will happen. There's another tiktoker I follow called Selena. Spooky Boo. Have you seen her? Yeah, she.

[Tana Mongeau]

She had.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, God. She's. Her fertility struggles are so sad. It's like her story, it was trigger warning but like miscarriage after miscarriage and just like all this, like, and her partner went through so much, you know, stuff health wise. And anyways they're, they're having their first baby now via surrogacy and she's so happy and it's been, I don't know, like 15 years of her struggle. And you just see those stories and you're like, there. When there's a will, there's a way. If it's not meant for your body, I truly, I think it'll, you'll find it through something else. You know what I mean? Through your baby will come some other way. So you just got to stay positive. Because I think the minute that you think negative, I always thought like I was unworthy of love. I always thought since I was a stripper prostitute, oh, I don't deserve love. And so I would say it, I was like, I don't deserve love. Like men, men are awful, whatever. And so like the minute you start thinking like I deserve it, which took me a while with Moses and like him sticking around, I was like, oh, maybe I do deserve this.

[Tana Mongeau]

This.

[Trisha Paytas]

Then you start like believing in it. So like the, your negativity, you're in your own way basically. The negativity blocks anything. So just like we talk about it, just believe that you can do anything. Like I like 37 now and I'm like the heaviest I've ever weighed. But it's like I still want to be an actress. And I was like, oh, I booked three TV shows acting this year, you know what I mean? And I was just like, it can happen, you know, I think I was blocking myself for so long. Like I can't act, I'm not an actress, whatever. And I don't know, just believing it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Trisha, that's a Lotus Hackman. That was the most. I got chills nine times. I teared up three time. I'm literally not kidding. That was so moving and like, I can't imagine being that girl and hearing you like say all of that. Like, I feel like you just spoke the most immense amount of life into somebody who really needed it. And it moved me and I don't know about in that world and that it is just crazy like that it came to you exactly when it was supposed to and that like all of that, I don't know, just feeling negative and down and, and like it's the end of the world and like it's never going to happen and whatever ended up being so purposeful and that it had to happen for this to happen. I don't know. That was just like time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. It's all about time. 14 years. I would consider 14 years of infertility. Fertility for the record, by the way, is like, it's not sterile. Like, sterile means like, you know, you have your uterus out, you don't have eggs or something, you don't produce eggs. Infertility is going more than a year of trying to get pregnant, not being able to. So that's what defines infertility. So I was infertile for 14 years and I had chlamydia untreated, which. Which scarred my tubes. So that was like a big issue of my fertility. So it, you know, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a struggle for a lot of people. And you know, just you gotta hang on, you gotta be positive.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank God it happened when he did. I mean, I'm a lot older than I thought I was gonna be his mom, but gosh, me being pregnant 24 by the guy that I thought I was would have been disaster. Like those poor kids. I mean, I probably like not even being funny and I, I kind of understand when people, people like, you know, have to give their kids to their parents because I had a dog that I couldn't take care of, so I gave it to my mom. You know, that probably would have been me in my 20s because I was so mentally unwell. And I know for like the well being of the child, I would have had to give the child to someone else because I could never have taken care of the child at 20 years old. There's just nowhere even 28 really because I was so mentally unwell.

[Tana Mongeau]

So wild how everything works out for a reason. And just like it is crazy how you can actively say as well that the second that you switched your voice vibes, right, like you're switch to like a positive pathway mentally about it, that everything ended up changing. It's so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And even that story is wild. Adopting the kids, becoming fully grown and then like ending up having a kid of your own, like, it is just.

[Trisha Paytas]

I see that a lot.

[Tana Mongeau]

What's meant to be will be.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I always never gave up hope. Because I was like, God, I see that quite often. And I think Courtney and Travis talk about it too. They were doing IVF and getting pregnant. Then they just like stopped trying and then they got pregnant. And it is one of those things that just happens. And yeah, like it's so annoying to hear when you're going through it because it's like, nobody wants to hear it. But there's so many stories like that, so.

[Tana Mongeau]

And now look at you, like, using all of that to speak life into so many people. And it's like, it's wild. It's just wild how everything does come together and happen for a reason. Even if you're like, God, why?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's really, like, yeah, we're in the abundance of babies. I know when talk about how to make, like, tubes tied and stuff. Now I'm like, God, I never in a million years thought I'd ever have this discussion of, like, how do we not get pregnant? You know what I mean? It's crazy. It's such a crazy thing. So hang on. Hang in there.

[Tana Mongeau]

That was so sweet. I just know that that made that girl's, like, whole life. It would make my whole life. It was, like, the best advice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Baby. Yeah. Damn.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love baby dust.

[Trisha Paytas]

Baby dust to you.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm like, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Baby dust away. Yeah, one more.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. That was just like, God, you need a book. Like, even that was crazy. Like, oh, my God, somebody write that down exactly like she said it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I love to be that because I had so many stories of infertility that, like, encouraged me. So I like to be that you just.

[Tana Mongeau]

It was so well spoken. And the speed that you speak at will always scratch an itch in my brain. Like, it's. It is the perfect speed to me. It just. I took so much information.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thanks.

[Tana Mongeau]

You can play the call. I won't suck the fart of her for too long.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hi, Trish and Tana. My name is Molly from New Jersey. I love you guys so much. So I'm calling because I just got engaged about a month ago, and I still have a long way until I start planning. But this is a question a for Trish, but what is something about your wedding that you would have changed or that you regretted? And I guess for Trana, what is something that you've always thought you want wanted for your wedding? Love you guys. Cutie.

[Tana Mongeau]

We are telepathic. We were literally. Were we talking about that on camera? Yeah, we were.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's why we talked so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're like, when did we talk about that?

[Tana Mongeau]

When were we recording?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't. I love the name Molly, too. Do you ever think her parents were just, like, on Molly? And we're like, this is good name for a kid.

[Tana Mongeau]

I always wondered how that works. Or, like, who. Who took MDMA and was, like, a girl named Molly?

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Tana Mongeau]

Or like, you know what? I Mean like, where did that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where they lost a girl named Molly. Because you'll see where's Molly? And you're just always like, did they lose someone like that? Someone's just like, like. And they misinterpreted it for like drugs. Like. Oh, you meant a child. I thought you meant this pill, you know, crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wow. I would love to know the origin story of Molly as a name for mdma. What the. Did she ask your.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your wedding inspo. Right.

[Tana Mongeau]

I want to hear from you first. Yes. If you could change anything about your wedding.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like we talked about this. I. I would always say don't spend too much on your wedding. I would say destination weddings, they're like cheaper. So I did an LA wedding at the Four Seasons, which is like crazy. The minimum at Four Seasons at least where we got married. A hundred thousand dollar minimum for food and drink. And that's just food and drink.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's just food and drink. Yeah. Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And there's.

[Tana Mongeau]

What were they serving? Caviar and golden baby's blood.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was good food. But the small sport, we didn't even get to eat it because you're so damn busy at your wedding. So. Yeah. That was just that and just wedding. Anyways, I would say if you can go smaller. We did a destination wedding in Ma. Maui. Which is expensive. Maui is expensive. And we did it on New Year's Eve, which makes it more expensive. But it was still so expensive. But it was still a tenth of the price of what we spent here in la. And if you look at our LA wedding and it's fine. You can be shady because I'm always shady. Towards our own wedding. Happy we did it. Obviously. Like I love being here to Moses. But like no lighting, no ambiance. The floors look like it's a convention center. Like it was just like no roses in sight. We just have candles. Which is like three seasons. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Two seasons. Why is crazy crazy?

[Trisha Paytas]

It smells more. Yeah. On the event planning of it all because we. The Four Seasons is just like a bare thing and you're supposed to make it great. But anyways, long story short, save money on your wedding. Oh my God. We did go into debt after the wedding. We should just done the Maui Maui. We had 10 people. We could talk to everyone. We dance, we could eat our own food. It was so much better. It was so pretty with ocean behind us. Like I would do destination wedding. I love the idea of a Vegas wedding. I thought that would always be like so fun too. That's what I wanted to do. Too was a Vegas wedding. But I think saving the money is like such a cooler move. It's like I was like honeymoon with that. Oh yeah, that. Save it for that, Save it for the trip, save it for a house, save it for whatever because yeah, it's just like not worth it. I thought, well I'm a content creator, I need this. Like it's going to be good content. And it's like even that I was like nobody really cared that much. You know what I mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

I want to say you and doesn't the video of you in the black wedding dress have like a grillion views? You got the content.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but like what does that even mean? You make no money on TikTok. You're like that. But yeah, I would say where you can. I wish we would have saved more money on our wedding because we went to debt.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. I think that obviously I have never been actually married but I feel like at the time that I did that whole publicity stunt moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I.

[Tana Mongeau]

As fake as that all is, right in that moment you still kind of understand that this is what it would be like if it was contentified and if everyone I've ever worked with and influencers were there and like whatever. And like even just being so in love with Mokoa as well, it's like you want the day to be like so different from everything else and you want it to be so sacred and so special and like I don't know. Yeah, I do want it to be more intimate and definitely somewhere further and like less people and like the whole nine, you know, it's just like. I agree with that fully because even with your LA wedding too, did you kind of like did you just go home after and you were kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like wait, we ended up staying in the hotel room. The hotel literally is five minutes from our house. So we like stayed in the hotel room. The like honeymoon suite, nine thousand dollar room a night. Like did not need to do that. Like we could have literally stayed here and say $9,000. Yeah, we stayed in the little suite and they, everyone brought the gifts up like whatever. Like you know. But yeah, we could have just come home, you know what I mean? Which would have been.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well I get why to do an LA wedding because like or wherever you live, you want everybody there and it's more of a moment and it's like all of the things. But I think think that like I've. I don't know, I just would hate to like up something sacred and you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can because it's not a Special day. Like, I don't look at it as like, our special day. It's like a meet and greet for real. We stood in one spot and it was just like, people lined up, which is like, nice. Everyone wants to say hi to you, of course, but the whole wedding saying.

[Tana Mongeau]

Your own wedding is like a meet and greet is.

[Trisha Paytas]

So we stood there in one spot and there was just lines of people. We had an Elvis impersonator. Never even saw the Elvis impersonator perform because we're just like, stuck in this line.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you don't even get to say hi to everyone. You say hi to everyone for literally like a 30 second. Like, they like, okay, okay, next, Next. Like, sort of thing. So it was. It was not like special or intimate at all in that way. Yeah, it was. It feels more like a show before. And so I think you're onto something when you want something smaller and, like, more intimate.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And just like family vibes and whatever. I've been saying that I'm gonna have a section at my wedding, though, of people who, like. I was saying this to Jeff specifically the other day, because Jeff was saying some crazy to me. I don't remember what he was saying, but I was like, if you come to my wedding, I need a section for people like you who are only allowed to say, like, like 10 words across the wedding. Like, I do have so many crazy people in my life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, there's just like, no say. I don't let anyone talk at my wedding.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, no, I just mean in general, out loud to other people. Like. Like, it is to a minimum. I'm friends with so many people that are so insane, that I love so dearly. I'm insane, but it's just, like, funny to think about which.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who. Who paid for the wedding with you and Jake? Was it sponsored?

[Tana Mongeau]

Probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

You didn't pay for it? Do you know how much it costs at all?

[Tana Mongeau]

Hundreds of thousands of dollars. And I don't think I paid for it. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

But it did. Like, again, as fake as ever. Like, you know, live streamed as everything was and stuff. Like, it does just, like, make you think about those things because obviously you're like, you know what I mean? Choosing things and inviting people and looking at dresses and like, all the. All those things. Like, psychologically, it did make me think about, like, one day when I actually do do this. Like, because I think that had I not had that experience, mine and Moa's wedding would suffer. Do you know what I mean? Like, in the sense that I'd be like, we need everybody there and sure we cameras and document it all. And I need nine outfit changes and I need my. You know what I mean? Like every videographer I've ever filmed with there, every makeup artist I've ever had, every, everything. And now it's like I couldn't feel more opposite.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you feel it was real? Did you kind of feel the emotions when you got like fake married the first time?

[Tana Mongeau]

I think it likes with your head in like a lot of ways. Duh. Because you're just going through those actions, especially as a woman, you know what I mean? Like I, I think maybe as I'm sure his perception of all this is entirely different.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm just saying my perception, like as a way it is interesting. You know what I mean? Like, and just like going through all the motions, like looking back, it's like, okay, did we need to have like a bridesmaid's party before with all the people I love? It's like, you know what I mean? Like going through those motions, you think that's like. I'll. I'll definitely really delve into that in my book. Like all of the things that I was feeling and thinking and moments that moment and lots of other moments like that. But I will say that it like taught me what just logistically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like oh, like we don't need, you know, all these things. Like yeah, planning wise, yours will be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like cute cuz you like, you know, barefoot wedding vibes. I think that'll be so cute for you very much.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's why it's Maui to me in my head. And Mokoa's got to get over this non Hawaii wedding. That's where you're from.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, don't run away from your home.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the destination, everybody. Maui was the best. That's the only island we've ever been to. I've gone there like 10 times and.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm like the best.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone's like, you should try this one or this. I was like, no, just Maui. That's all I care about.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would compromise with him and do another island so he felt something, you know. But like, I don't know, I just, I love it. You're right. Like barefoot, literally. I'm like, I could simple and you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Could have one photographer. You could have like vogue come to your wedding or something.

[Tana Mongeau]

That would be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Want to.

[Tana Mongeau]

I probably would.

[Trisha Paytas]

You would be so classy too. Now with your new like shadow root and stuff. You're gonna look so Classy. So good.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's another thing that I'm really grateful for. I don't know how to explain this. Just like in life, who I was for so long, very much statement pieces, very much insanity. Like, I. I think that in a lot of other eras of life, if I were choosing a wedding dress, I'd be like, we need red. We need cutouts. We need. You know what I mean? I want the wedding dress to have animatronics, right? And now I'm like simple silk. Like, I'll be more classic, classy, toned down. Not everything needs to be because that's really what Makoa made me. If you think about it metaphorically, as.

[Trisha Paytas]

Soft, you know, you have been. You're in your soft girl era. You manifested that because I know a year or two ago you were trying to do a Sofia Richie rebrand and you kind of did that. You got it.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it was like, put the bottle down then Tana. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but you got it. You're her.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. You're so everybody. I love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Gwent really hard, but I.

[Tana Mongeau]

Am just like, softer.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love a soft girl era.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And we're in our soft girl era. But we're about to get hard on our patreon at patre of line. We've got stories to share. We'll give you the update on the. Well, we can't even talk about it here, but go to.

[Tana Mongeau]

We cannot talk about it here, but good God, it is like, so ridiculous.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't wait to get the updates. Patreon.comline. you guys, I promise the next episode, we're gonna answer so many. We're answer 20 questions the next episode. I promise.

[Tana Mongeau]

57, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

57.

[Tana Mongeau]

I promise.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. We gotta really speed through it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love you guys. We love you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Thanks for listening to us. Yap sometimes. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thanks for letting a catch up because we're like, we're need to film seven.

[Tana Mongeau]

Episodes today for the girlies who enjoy the app. Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you. We'll see you. That's new merch coming for canceled.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And we have leopard merch coming for here soon.

[Tana Mongeau]

Please buy it. Seriously, I've got a wedding to fund. One day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Two, Three, Maybe three.

[Tana Mongeau]

Bye.